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    Some of the following people are well worth remembering for their great achievements, and the way they did them; others are not. But all were well known in their time and exercised undue influence. I have already described the parallel cases of Ernst Mayr and Huey Newton, while Bill Drury was the most important influence...
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    I've heard all the same sorts stories about Lewontin and Gould. I've also heard an equal number of nasty stories about Hamilton. I've heard less nastiness about Williams, but yes, I've heard nasty stories about him too. I should mention as a practising academic in this field I've heard all of this nastiness from people who were there when the bad behavior happened. I've seen some of it myself firsthand. Finally, the worst stories I've heard about any of these people are about Trivers himself.

    Now the real question is why does Trivers only mention the bad traits of Lewontin and Gould? Further, why does he belittle their accomplishments while giving full credit to the people he likes? Sean Carroll for example cites Ontogeny and Phylogeny as seminal for the field of Evo-Devo. Its not even mentioned in Trivers' hit piece. Lots of stuff in Ontogeny and Phylogeny is wrong, of course, but lots of stuff Hamilton said about kin selection has been proven wrong. Doesn't change who gets credit for getting the ball rolling.

    This article by Trivers is disgraceful. This sort of thing should be said over beers with friends or about long dead people in biographies. Ad hominem attacks like this say everything there is to say about the people doing the attacking.

    This is the fairest comment I have read So far. It is absolutely amazing that an established evolutionary biologist like Trivers knows So little of the contribution by other evolutionary biologist.

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  • I’ve heard all the same sorts stories about Lewontin and Gould. I’ve also heard an equal number of nasty stories about Hamilton. I’ve heard less nastiness about Williams, but yes, I’ve heard nasty stories about him too. I should mention as a practising academic in this field I’ve heard all of this nastiness from people who were there when the bad behavior happened. I’ve seen some of it myself firsthand. Finally, the worst stories I’ve heard about any of these people are about Trivers himself.

    Now the real question is why does Trivers only mention the bad traits of Lewontin and Gould? Further, why does he belittle their accomplishments while giving full credit to the people he likes? Sean Carroll for example cites Ontogeny and Phylogeny as seminal for the field of Evo-Devo. Its not even mentioned in Trivers’ hit piece. Lots of stuff in Ontogeny and Phylogeny is wrong, of course, but lots of stuff Hamilton said about kin selection has been proven wrong. Doesn’t change who gets credit for getting the ball rolling.

    This article by Trivers is disgraceful. This sort of thing should be said over beers with friends or about long dead people in biographies. Ad hominem attacks like this say everything there is to say about the people doing the attacking.

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    This is the fairest comment I have read So far. It is absolutely amazing that an established evolutionary biologist like Trivers knows So little of the contribution by other evolutionary biologist.
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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 14 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] The low point in my relationship with Jamaica came fairly recently. In 2007 I won the Crafoord Prize from the Swedish Royal Society. It was worth $500,000. When it was announced in the local Jamaican newspaper, I knew immediately...
  • I’ve been knowing Trivers for just about 40 years.

    I’m in San Franciso tonight and reading this has kept me up into the wee hours .

    What a story
    What a life
    What a guy

    Brother Huey is beaming with pride from beyond

    Same with W D Hamilton

    Wish I was there with enough balls to have tried to help out.

    Screw the analysis , Psycho dynamics and spin.

    What an incredible moment in one of the truly great lives of our times.

    Inspires me to get up from the wheel chair ride my existence has become, throw away my imaginary crutches and jump back into fray of what’s left of my life.

    “They whisper his name from State to Stae a price was on his head, t’was like in the Wild West days of yore, double if he was dead.”

    From the poem “Becky ” by
    W . C . Brown

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 11 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] One of the few benefits of moving from Harvard to the University of California at Santa Cruz in 1978 was the chance to meet the legendary founder of the Black Panther Party Huey Newton. Indeed he was waved in...
  • […] once served as the only white member of the Black Panther Party. It’s absolutely correct that he has advocated the assassination of “racist” white police officers, a view I personally do not share and one which is probably more extreme than anything VDare or any […]

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 9 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] It used to be said some forty years ago in Jamaica that if you wanted to murder someone, you should bring him first to Southfield because no one has ever been convicted of murder in Southfield. I am not...
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  • @Alro
    Well African societies were quite peaceful before Whites showed up.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with.

    Its not the whites, its the blacks. Black people are like finely spinning tops that glide through the ether like gems – until whitey so much as whispers their name. Then they go wobbling and crashing along.

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  • @Anonymous
    You ignorant, racist jerk. Americans are slaughtering themselves like animals for no reason whatsoever and you claim your European ancestry makes you superior! Of course, you all hanged and then burned black people in south at picnics attended by your children-"Strange fruit." Mutations and the monsters thus created: you are a member of that particular tribe!

    I swear it warn’t me. Well ok it was me. But I only did a couple. Well ok maybe more than a couple. But I saw other people doing the same thing.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @workforlivn
    I started to make a joke about the author being like Jane Goodall; then I looked up his bio. That's pretty much what he's doing with his life.

    A friend of Huey Newton, he became a member of the Black Panthers for a while. He wrote the forward to Dawkin's book, 'The Selfish Gene'.

    We have much to learn from the behavior of Blacks in Jamaica and Haiti. We can learn that the structure provided by Western Philosophy explains the relative Heaven on Earth found in the West. That we share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees and are close enough to Blacks to be able to interbreed; our higher cognitive abilities and the blessings of Plato are all that stand between us and an Obama-Sanders smoking hole in the ground where Europe and the US once stood.

    It can all be here in a generation.

    You ignorant, racist jerk. Americans are slaughtering themselves like animals for no reason whatsoever and you claim your European ancestry makes you superior! Of course, you all hanged and then burned black people in south at picnics attended by your children-”Strange fruit.” Mutations and the monsters thus created: you are a member of that particular tribe!

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    I swear it warn't me. Well ok it was me. But I only did a couple. Well ok maybe more than a couple. But I saw other people doing the same thing.
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  • Jah know Plantocrat! (Bajans of a certain age tell similar stories.)

    Murder rate for 2015 up 25% to 44 per 100,000 to ’bout lead the world not at war. Mi wife from rural Portland Parish where killings are rare, with a rate to embarrass all the Johnny Jakes posting here. Sum ting ’bout fishin’ n’ farmin’!

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  • @Alro
    Well African societies were quite peaceful before Whites showed up.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with.

    Heretical Press

    Scroll down to the section on Cannibalism in Africa, as reported by the early explorers and missionaries into the Dark Continent.

    Real peaceful stuff.

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  • @Alro
    Well African societies were quite peaceful before Whites showed up.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with

    I don’t know. I’m pretty sure that selling albino body parts was not a Euro-idea though.
    Maybe blacks could figure it out themselves if they could pry those evil white cell phones off their ears.

    Whites also cause incremental increases in the native, non-white population eventually. They work their sly magic, and whatever it is that lowers child mortality and increases life span, causes so much bewilderment and chaos. Especially when the whites leave. The people of CAR long for the good old days when they had a functioning country with a working infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals, an urban center that was the admiration of other African countries. Then the Belgians left, and all that is just a memory. Oh, they had money. The WB made sure of that. It’s just that the money didn’t go to the country, it went to a few big men with fancy uniforms.

    Then there was the very nice lady from Ghana who worked in the U.S., who spoke of how her father said, “when the last white man leaves Ghana, I’m on the plane with him.” The lady from Ghana said she didn’t know why it was like that but it was.
    Africans from Africa are very honest, usually, about things. Yet didn’t seem to want to be anything but Africans. Their culture was violent but it was theirs.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Jamaica was once the richest possession in the British Empire and it remained a British colony for over 300 years. There was virtually no violent crime in Jamaica during the British Colonial days. As late as the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s, my Mother’s family, who had lived in Jamaica since the English Conquest of 1655, could sleep with all their doors and windows open onto their verandahs without any fear of crime. All this violent crime started after Jamaica got Independence from Britain in 1962 and Jamaican Politicians started giving guns to their political supporters in the slums. Michael Manley made it worse during the 1970s when he fanned the flames of race and class hatred and tried to turn Jamaica into a Black Socialist Republic. The result was that there was a huge upsurge in violence and most of the Upper and Middle Classes, who were White, Mulatto or Chinese, fled into exile with as much of their money as they could take with them. Standards declined dramatically after they left and Jamaica has been going steadily downhill ever since and it is fast becoming the next Haiti. Very sad for those of us who remember Jamaica as a veritable Paradise until the advent of Socialism, Black Power and Violent Gun Crime in the Mid 1970s. Now it’s Paradise Lost.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Alro
    Jamaica was a crown colony.

    And is still part of the British Commonwealth.

    Sons of Ham didnt create it......Anglo-Saxons did.

    They are free to leave the commonwealth any time they choose as the Irish did in 1949. Btw, opinion polls among Jamaicans a little while ago on the 50th anniversary of their gaining independence showed that a majority of them admitted they had been better off under British political rule. What is your explanation for the mess that is Haiti? That country has been exclusively black for well over 200 years.

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  • “Well African societies were quite peaceful before whites showed up”.

    Actually the opposite is more the truth. Inter-tribal warfare and slavery were widespread.

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  • @europeasant
    Itz the best that they are capable of. Terra-forming the planet one country at a time into the image and likeness of Africa. More and more people are waking up to the realization that something is wrong with what our leaders have been preaching to us. In every city, every state, every nation itz always the same. Where Africans rule chaos reigns.

    Well African societies were quite peaceful before Whites showed up.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with.

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    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with
     
    I don't know. I'm pretty sure that selling albino body parts was not a Euro-idea though.
    Maybe blacks could figure it out themselves if they could pry those evil white cell phones off their ears.

    Whites also cause incremental increases in the native, non-white population eventually. They work their sly magic, and whatever it is that lowers child mortality and increases life span, causes so much bewilderment and chaos. Especially when the whites leave. The people of CAR long for the good old days when they had a functioning country with a working infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals, an urban center that was the admiration of other African countries. Then the Belgians left, and all that is just a memory. Oh, they had money. The WB made sure of that. It's just that the money didn't go to the country, it went to a few big men with fancy uniforms.

    Then there was the very nice lady from Ghana who worked in the U.S., who spoke of how her father said, "when the last white man leaves Ghana, I'm on the plane with him." The lady from Ghana said she didn't know why it was like that but it was.
    Africans from Africa are very honest, usually, about things. Yet didn't seem to want to be anything but Africans. Their culture was violent but it was theirs.
    , @Anonymous
    Heretical Press

    Scroll down to the section on Cannibalism in Africa, as reported by the early explorers and missionaries into the Dark Continent.

    Real peaceful stuff.
    , @workforlivn
    Its not the whites, its the blacks. Black people are like finely spinning tops that glide through the ether like gems - until whitey so much as whispers their name. Then they go wobbling and crashing along.
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  • @rvg
    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?

    Because the Black men are superior.

    More genetically fit.

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  • @Leftist conservative
    the sons of Ham always create such wonderful places to live

    Jamaica was a crown colony.

    And is still part of the British Commonwealth.

    Sons of Ham didnt create it……Anglo-Saxons did.

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    They are free to leave the commonwealth any time they choose as the Irish did in 1949. Btw, opinion polls among Jamaicans a little while ago on the 50th anniversary of their gaining independence showed that a majority of them admitted they had been better off under British political rule. What is your explanation for the mess that is Haiti? That country has been exclusively black for well over 200 years.
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  • I am curious….is Robert Trivers saying that the prospect of murder & theft create greater territoriality or rather than less? That might go against the socialist dream. And notice by territoriality, here i mean the mutual agreement to secure a territory and suppress murder by making murders easily captured. That is, the prospect of murder & theft creates interlocking private property rights for mutual protection, (a government) that is born that is called into disputes (police), adjudicates disputes (courts), and protects this interlocking private property rights for mutual protection social system from invasion from within and from without (military) . If that is so, then it would stand to reason that the more efficient “interlocking private property rights for mutual protection” is, the safer is the overall society. So, here we see a Republic form of governance, rather than a socialist one. Jamaica’s government is weak, and could be stronger. But to do that, you increase your republic form of governance …..

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  • Who in their half right mind, would expect anything less?

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  • Mi wife be from JA. Worked for Babylon. Police discipline in article nothing compared what she see: break-in house, shoot half dozen sleepin’ bwoys in backs of heads for “resisting.” Toss others from police helicopter. And more. “Where too many of my kind be together, only bad follows,” she avers.

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  • Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:

    Negromo goes OJ on a yellomo.

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  • @rvg
    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?

    I have no idea, even assuming what you say is true. Mind explaining what your comment has to do with mine?

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  • Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:
    @anon
    It isn't just in Jamaica. Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go. If the problem was just a corrupt and useless law enforcement that might explain some of it on the island itself, but you see the same patterns in Canada, America, the U.K. anywhere they go abroad. Indeed even by the very low standards of the black Caribbean, Jamaicans seem to be especially bad.

    “Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go.”

    No kidding. There are tons of Jaffers over there.

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  • @rvg
    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?

    Because they want a sexually dominant man, and most of those left for Ulster Plantation and from there to America.

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  • @rvg
    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?

    Same reason some American women and a whole lot of other Euro trash and Euro blue blood women are burnin’ the coal on Caribbean sex tour vacations. Their metrosexual man-boys back home ain’t wearin’ their britches and layin’ enough pipe on ‘em. Think about what socio-political transformations have led to this state of affairs.

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  • @dc.sunsets
    Naw, before that becomes the norm YT will indulge in target practice.

    Remember what YT did with men of red skin? They issued medals for "battles" of extermination, medals that still hang in Army bases.

    Long before the USA turns into one big Jamaica, the herd will stop cropping grass and realize there are jackals in their midst. The herd may be slow but its members aren't entirely stupid. And a herd has a whole lot of hooves.

    The way of the Tao is reversal. No trend lasts forever.

    In demographics, the rate of natural increase (RNI) is the crude birth rate of a population plus the immigration rate minus the crude death rate plus emigration rate. If the death rate is high, both immigration and emigration rates will be affected, and the birth rate will be non-determinative.

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  • @anon
    It isn't just in Jamaica. Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go. If the problem was just a corrupt and useless law enforcement that might explain some of it on the island itself, but you see the same patterns in Canada, America, the U.K. anywhere they go abroad. Indeed even by the very low standards of the black Caribbean, Jamaicans seem to be especially bad.

    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?

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    Same reason some American women and a whole lot of other Euro trash and Euro blue blood women are burnin' the coal on Caribbean sex tour vacations. Their metrosexual man-boys back home ain't wearin' their britches and layin' enough pipe on 'em. Think about what socio-political transformations have led to this state of affairs.
    , @Jay
    Because they want a sexually dominant man, and most of those left for Ulster Plantation and from there to America.
    , @anon
    I have no idea, even assuming what you say is true. Mind explaining what your comment has to do with mine?
    , @Alro
    Because the Black men are superior.

    More genetically fit.
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  • @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Indeed bomag-- just look at this very recent story of a White female nurse anesthesiologist hacked to death in front of her White husband while walking on an off the beaten bath beach in Grenada.

    Yikes! That was just yesterday.

    Another dreary case of someone with negative social value killing someone of accomplishment.

    Bad guys: 1… good guys: 0.

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  • @anon
    It isn't just in Jamaica. Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go. If the problem was just a corrupt and useless law enforcement that might explain some of it on the island itself, but you see the same patterns in Canada, America, the U.K. anywhere they go abroad. Indeed even by the very low standards of the black Caribbean, Jamaicans seem to be especially bad.

    Indeed, I imagine Jamaica is a serious embarassment to the legalise marijuana brigade.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    It isn’t just in Jamaica. Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go. If the problem was just a corrupt and useless law enforcement that might explain some of it on the island itself, but you see the same patterns in Canada, America, the U.K. anywhere they go abroad. Indeed even by the very low standards of the black Caribbean, Jamaicans seem to be especially bad.

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    Indeed, I imagine Jamaica is a serious embarassment to the legalise marijuana brigade.
    , @rvg
    So why are white British females eager to have sex with black Carribean men?
    , @Priss Factor
    "Jamaicans seem to cause incredible amounts of violence everywhere they go."

    No kidding. There are tons of Jaffers over there.
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  • @bomag
    Note here that the tourist areas of Jamaica are free from violent crime.

    There can be control if the stakes are high enough.

    Indeed bomag– just look at this very recent story of a White female nurse anesthesiologist hacked to death in front of her White husband while walking on an off the beaten bath beach in Grenada.

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    Yikes! That was just yesterday.

    Another dreary case of someone with negative social value killing someone of accomplishment.

    Bad guys: 1... good guys: 0.
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  • @another fred
    Work has taken me to "de islands" in the past. I was more than a little naive and way stressed out after a bad marriage, so it seemed like a good idea for the money. I will never go voluntarily again.

    Some of this killing goes on because some of those people "need killin". Some goes on because the people who "need killin" haven't gotten it yet.

    Trivers is probably either nuts or just has a lot of "thrill seeker" genes in him. I've known the type. He can have it.

    Note here that the tourist areas of Jamaica are free from violent crime.

    There can be control if the stakes are high enough.

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    Indeed bomag-- just look at this very recent story of a White female nurse anesthesiologist hacked to death in front of her White husband while walking on an off the beaten bath beach in Grenada.
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  • @dc.sunsets
    Naw, before that becomes the norm YT will indulge in target practice.

    Remember what YT did with men of red skin? They issued medals for "battles" of extermination, medals that still hang in Army bases.

    Long before the USA turns into one big Jamaica, the herd will stop cropping grass and realize there are jackals in their midst. The herd may be slow but its members aren't entirely stupid. And a herd has a whole lot of hooves.

    The way of the Tao is reversal. No trend lasts forever.

    I like your sentiment, but let us raise up some leaders who can get their head out of the grass. Or out of the ground for that matter.

    Our current leadership falls all over itself to tell us “white bad; color good”. Or tells us that turning Gay is good; that transitioning to a woman is better yet.

    The Citadel is insulated; impregnable; and loaded with our enemies.

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  • Is there anything more repulsive, more perfectly disgusting, than an agressively macho lefty?

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  • I’ve admired Bob Trivers since reading his early papers on the evolution of behavior (and his very well-written textbook on Social Evolution) in my senior year of college. I didn’t know about his Jamaica or Huey Newton connections then. Although I never became a famous evolutionary biologist, I’ve had a few parallels to his life in my own, and I shared his stories of murderous Jamaica with my mother-in-law to deflect her attempts to have us move there. I’d agree with one of the commenters above that the thrill of the possibility of violence in your vicinity (even if you yourself are not so inclined) is something that young men often enjoy and that palls somewhat as you age, for most people but perhaps not Bob; I remember distinctly that a few weeks after my oldest was born I was in the corner store in Crown Heights buying milk when a group of young and argumentative men walked in and started yelling at each other; the slight feeling of anxiety was just tiring.

    I moved to the suburbs soon thereafter.

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  • Here’s an interesting blog post by Chris Jensen about a seminar Trivers held at Rutgers on Nowak, Tarnita and Wilson’s paper, “The Evolution of Eusociality.” (Link at end)

    EO Wilson as a writer is to Trivers as most is to least. Per the blog, Trivers disagreed strongly with the paper. Here are a few quotes from the blog:

    -Although Trivers did pause to answer a few questions, anyone with the illusion that this would be a “discussion” had that idea squashed within the first few minutes.

    -You can tell when people are wholly committed to the idea of gene-level selection, because they insist that all arguments rest on the tenet that the gene is the sole unit of selection. Trivers showed himself to be of this ilk…

    -the ugliest part of Trivers’ monologue was his frequent use of character assassination to make his points. Perhaps the “informal” nature of this seminar on his home campus made him feel like he was among “family”, but in my eyes speaking in public is public speaking. He criticized both Nowak and E.O. Wilson for being overly-ambitious, relating their appointment at Harvard to an exceptional level of ego (Trivers ought to know, having earned his entire higher education from Harvard). Making sure to go after all the members of the small band that still even allows group selection to enter into their hypothesis list, Trivers also suggested that David Sloan Wilson “came out of the womb advocating group selection”. Too bad that he could not stay on topic, as I would have appreciated twice as many scientific arguments in exchange for not hearing the political and personal analysis.

    -I guess what maybe upset me most about Trivers’ presentation is that I cannot imagine that it engendered in the audience much excitement about the field of evolutionary biology: through Trivers’ eyes, those trying to explain how cooperation evolves seem like a fractious, Balkanized, unproductive bunch of scientists. Perhaps this is true, but I doubt that focusing on this aspect of the field is going to do much to change it.

    Plus a great comment at the end:

    James Bowery
    25th January 2012 at 12:47 pm
    The over-reaction to this paper [Evolution of Eusociality] is less about its over-reach in “de-perching” kin selection than it is to the final paragraph: “We have not addressed the evolution of human social behavior here, but parallels with scenarios of animal eusocial evolution exist, and they are, we believe, well worth examining.” There is nothing “over-reaching” about this statement. Humans are subject to evolution and humans are highly social. To acknowledge a proportionate lack of emphasis on humans in the paper is hardly a violation of scholarly protocol. Here’s the problem: Since the early days of “sociobiology” the “danger” that light might be shed on evolutionary dynamics in human populations has caused people to behave irrationally toward the field.

    Get over it and get on with it.

    The link:

    http://www.christopherxjjensen.com/2010/10/13/robert-trivers-and-colleagues-on-nowak-tarnita-and-wilsons-the-evolution-of-eusociality/

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  • Itz the best that they are capable of. Terra-forming the planet one country at a time into the image and likeness of Africa. More and more people are waking up to the realization that something is wrong with what our leaders have been preaching to us. In every city, every state, every nation itz always the same. Where Africans rule chaos reigns.

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    • Replies: @Alro
    Well African societies were quite peaceful before Whites showed up.

    What is it about Whites which causes such chaos in socieites you come. Into contact with.

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  • I’m always amused when former Black Panthers get a taste of some real African shit. All those Panther fundraising parties back in the early 70s seem kind of quaint now, don’t they?

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  • Work has taken me to “de islands” in the past. I was more than a little naive and way stressed out after a bad marriage, so it seemed like a good idea for the money. I will never go voluntarily again.

    Some of this killing goes on because some of those people “need killin”. Some goes on because the people who “need killin” haven’t gotten it yet.

    Trivers is probably either nuts or just has a lot of “thrill seeker” genes in him. I’ve known the type. He can have it.

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    Note here that the tourist areas of Jamaica are free from violent crime.

    There can be control if the stakes are high enough.
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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The part about various people playing the role of the “link” is quite a valuable thing to recognize. Crime victims get set up by people who know them in some way and have inside info about them. This also happened a lot in South Africa where white families were fingered for home invasions by their beloved black maid or other black employees who had worked for them sometimes for years and were trusted. If one looks at the high incarceration rate and career criminality of US blacks it’s clear that just about any black, no matter how legitimate seeming, probably has relatives who are part of the criminal underworld. This applies to black cops, teachers, politicians, all of them. So be careful about black handymen, domestic employees or any one else. One older guy I knew decided to take a sizable amount of cash out of his bank account and put it in a safe since he wasn’t getting any interest on it anyway. He arranged it ahead of time with the bank. He thinks he was set up by the black female manager that he was dealing with for a robbery because some suspicious black males seemed to pick up on him outside and subtly moved his way, this in a white neighborhood. He had an off-duty cop meet him though and his unbuttoned jacket revealed his holstered gun to the blacks who then disappeared. There’s always a link in the chain somewhere. The third- worldization of America has been going on for years now. Jamaica is what we can expect if things keep going the way they’ve been. Can anyone actually imagine living in a place like that?

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  • What a heartwarming vignette of life in Jamaica. I read that Jamaican drug posses were what lay behind the remarkable murder surge in Washington, D.C. during the early 1990′s.

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  • Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael (professor of Judaic studies at College of William & Mary) in “Jews and Judaism in the United States: a Documentary Work” had his own view about Jamaica.

    “Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated,” he said.

    http://rehmat1.com/2012/12/25/slavery-gun-control-and-the-jewish-elites/

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  • “A corpse, for example – minus the bones and dentition – will decompose overnight in the tropics.” This is just not true unless under some extraordinary and rare circumstances. Is there a single case where it happened that didn’t involve largish animals?

    I’ve spent a lot of time living in the tropics and no one banks on bodies disappearing overnight.

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  • @conatus
    Yeah Mon, Life be de same al'over.
    One spring night two brothers(YT and real genetic type brothers) were leaving a party in the early morning hours. Going to their jeep parked nearby, they were confronted by three bothers(Black bros), one waving a sawed off. "Gimmee de keys" one said and the white guys did exactly that. The Black bothers(should I say that?), the brothers of color?) pushed the YTs up against the chainlink fence on Fifth Street. Mr. Sawed-off pushed one brother's head against the fence with the shotgun and the victim pushed the gun away. With that, the entire neigh(YT guys say 'neigh') woke up to a loud BOOM! on a new spring night, gentle wafts of warmth having replaced the icy blasts of winter. The victim dropped to the sidewalk, his brain falling out of his now opened head onto the sidewalk. He grew a halo of blood and brain as his soul departed for a more ordered place.
    His genetic brother yelled, "You fu*kin' killed my bother."
    The killers fled to the the land of color in the jeep. The cops and medtecs came but no one did anything. The victim lay there , his medulla oblongata doing its thing, he still breathed but no head. No point in helping the headless.
    The cops asked but nobody knew anything.
    The cops left, the medtecs left. They cleaned up, sort of, but the next morning walking the dog, she was real interested in this glaucous mound on the sidewalk. A tasty snack? I dunno, I pulled my dog off and saw it was the guy's brain, relatively intact. i wondered if the synapses with the memories of Mom's praise and a cozy five year old's bed were done firing.
    The medtecs had taken the body but left the brain.
    Later a neighbor chucked the guy's brain in the dumpster.
    Yeah mon, six blocks from the United States Capitol, coming soon to a neigh your grandchildren will be living in.

    Naw, before that becomes the norm YT will indulge in target practice.

    Remember what YT did with men of red skin? They issued medals for “battles” of extermination, medals that still hang in Army bases.

    Long before the USA turns into one big Jamaica, the herd will stop cropping grass and realize there are jackals in their midst. The herd may be slow but its members aren’t entirely stupid. And a herd has a whole lot of hooves.

    The way of the Tao is reversal. No trend lasts forever.

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    I like your sentiment, but let us raise up some leaders who can get their head out of the grass. Or out of the ground for that matter.

    Our current leadership falls all over itself to tell us "white bad; color good". Or tells us that turning Gay is good; that transitioning to a woman is better yet.

    The Citadel is insulated; impregnable; and loaded with our enemies.
    , @Jay
    In demographics, the rate of natural increase (RNI) is the crude birth rate of a population plus the immigration rate minus the crude death rate plus emigration rate. If the death rate is high, both immigration and emigration rates will be affected, and the birth rate will be non-determinative.
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  • @anonymous
    So, as I was reading this closely for mention of Huey Newton, I noted:

    "There must be a deeper evolutionary logic to account for a society where murder is so prevalent, but I don’t know what it is beyond such simple arguments that the evidence decomposes much more rapidly in the tropics, on multiple fronts, than in the temperate zone. A corpse, for example – minus the bones and dentition – will decompose overnight in the tropics while surviving intact for months, years, and even hundreds of years in the arctic."


    "To my shame, I say, because two weeks later Joe lay dead, his body found in a field, a container of poison nearby and his mouth reeking of it – he had apparently committed suicide by drinking the poison."

    So where was the field -- Minnesota?


    Someone please explain why this weird book is being dissected for us on this site.

    There must be a deeper evolutionary logic to account for a society where murder is so prevalent, but I don’t know what it is beyond such simple arguments that the evidence decomposes much more rapidly in the tropics…

    Yeah, that must be it. No other pattern to notice from Prof. Robert Trivers, Evolutionary Biologist.

    I guess one studies biology to tell the rest of us that biology doesn’t matter.

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So, as I was reading this closely for mention of Huey Newton, I noted:

    “There must be a deeper evolutionary logic to account for a society where murder is so prevalent, but I don’t know what it is beyond such simple arguments that the evidence decomposes much more rapidly in the tropics, on multiple fronts, than in the temperate zone. A corpse, for example – minus the bones and dentition – will decompose overnight in the tropics while surviving intact for months, years, and even hundreds of years in the arctic.”

    “To my shame, I say, because two weeks later Joe lay dead, his body found in a field, a container of poison nearby and his mouth reeking of it – he had apparently committed suicide by drinking the poison.”

    So where was the field — Minnesota?

    Someone please explain why this weird book is being dissected for us on this site.

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    There must be a deeper evolutionary logic to account for a society where murder is so prevalent, but I don’t know what it is beyond such simple arguments that the evidence decomposes much more rapidly in the tropics...

    Yeah, that must be it. No other pattern to notice from Prof. Robert Trivers, Evolutionary Biologist.

    I guess one studies biology to tell the rest of us that biology doesn't matter.
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  • I started to make a joke about the author being like Jane Goodall; then I looked up his bio. That’s pretty much what he’s doing with his life.

    A friend of Huey Newton, he became a member of the Black Panthers for a while. He wrote the forward to Dawkin’s book, ‘The Selfish Gene’.

    We have much to learn from the behavior of Blacks in Jamaica and Haiti. We can learn that the structure provided by Western Philosophy explains the relative Heaven on Earth found in the West. That we share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees and are close enough to Blacks to be able to interbreed; our higher cognitive abilities and the blessings of Plato are all that stand between us and an Obama-Sanders smoking hole in the ground where Europe and the US once stood.

    It can all be here in a generation.

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    You ignorant, racist jerk. Americans are slaughtering themselves like animals for no reason whatsoever and you claim your European ancestry makes you superior! Of course, you all hanged and then burned black people in south at picnics attended by your children-"Strange fruit." Mutations and the monsters thus created: you are a member of that particular tribe!
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  • Yeah Mon, Life be de same al’over.
    One spring night two brothers(YT and real genetic type brothers) were leaving a party in the early morning hours. Going to their jeep parked nearby, they were confronted by three bothers(Black bros), one waving a sawed off. “Gimmee de keys” one said and the white guys did exactly that. The Black bothers(should I say that?), the brothers of color?) pushed the YTs up against the chainlink fence on Fifth Street. Mr. Sawed-off pushed one brother’s head against the fence with the shotgun and the victim pushed the gun away. With that, the entire neigh(YT guys say ‘neigh’) woke up to a loud BOOM! on a new spring night, gentle wafts of warmth having replaced the icy blasts of winter. The victim dropped to the sidewalk, his brain falling out of his now opened head onto the sidewalk. He grew a halo of blood and brain as his soul departed for a more ordered place.
    His genetic brother yelled, “You fu*kin’ killed my bother.”
    The killers fled to the the land of color in the jeep. The cops and medtecs came but no one did anything. The victim lay there , his medulla oblongata doing its thing, he still breathed but no head. No point in helping the headless.
    The cops asked but nobody knew anything.
    The cops left, the medtecs left. They cleaned up, sort of, but the next morning walking the dog, she was real interested in this glaucous mound on the sidewalk. A tasty snack? I dunno, I pulled my dog off and saw it was the guy’s brain, relatively intact. i wondered if the synapses with the memories of Mom’s praise and a cozy five year old’s bed were done firing.
    The medtecs had taken the body but left the brain.
    Later a neighbor chucked the guy’s brain in the dumpster.
    Yeah mon, six blocks from the United States Capitol, coming soon to a neigh your grandchildren will be living in.

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    Naw, before that becomes the norm YT will indulge in target practice.

    Remember what YT did with men of red skin? They issued medals for "battles" of extermination, medals that still hang in Army bases.

    Long before the USA turns into one big Jamaica, the herd will stop cropping grass and realize there are jackals in their midst. The herd may be slow but its members aren't entirely stupid. And a herd has a whole lot of hooves.

    The way of the Tao is reversal. No trend lasts forever.

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  • Leftist conservative [AKA "GOD ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ"] says:

    the sons of Ham always create such wonderful places to live

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    Jamaica was a crown colony.

    And is still part of the British Commonwealth.

    Sons of Ham didnt create it......Anglo-Saxons did.
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  • Yeah, I can see why he loves the place so much. Trivers must be the great lunatic genius of our time.

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  • wow, sounds like a great place to visit.

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  • Great, I can see why you call it home.

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 11 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] According to Huey, the Black Panther Party started as a simple, old-fashioned robbery, which he was planning with a number of confederates. Problem was he was reading Franz Fanon and becoming politically conscious. So he decided to use the...
  • @David
    Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?

    I think Trivers’ memoirs are better written than practically anything else on this site. It’s fun to read, too. Keep posting it, Mr. Unz!

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  • Islam fueling most violent persecution of christians in modern history .
    The murderers , terrorists , slavers , rapists and decapitators of christian populations in 2015
    is done exclusively by muslims . They must take responsibility for their actions and repent and change their behavior .

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/20/report-2015-saw-most-violent-persecution-of-christians-in-modern-history/

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  • @Rehmat
    You're a typical brainwashed Israeli "shifting sands" idiot who cannot stay on one topic.

    NOPE: My non-Zionist dictionary do mention ACID TEST.

    Your "discredited Israeli musician" has 100-times better record than your SPOOKY, TERRORIST, TERRORIST prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu - says Israeli professor Neve Gordon.

    Shalom - Rehmat.

    http://www.wrmea.org/1996-october/spook-terrorist-or-criminal-america-s-mysterious-files-on-netanyahu.html

    Hi Rehmat . Devolving into childish name calling is the surest sign of someone that does not have a convincing argument . Nevertheless I am grateful to people like Ron Unz that give an open comments platform to people like you . Other more mainstream sites may censor or block a commenter like you who is obviously unhinged and not capable of conversing without calling people idiots . You not having a safe space to rant and rave might cause you to take your verbal jihad to real life , like your fellow countryman Farook the pakistani san bernardino terrorist .

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  • @marwan
    the proper term is litmus test , sorry to quibble ,but that doesnt tell me a percentage . highly subjective and bereft of any quantifiable data . a jazz musician is also not a reputable source , as he has no background or expertise . akin to asking john q six pack off the street and holding it up as reliable data .

    You’re a typical brainwashed Israeli “shifting sands” idiot who cannot stay on one topic.

    NOPE: My non-Zionist dictionary do mention ACID TEST.

    Your “discredited Israeli musician” has 100-times better record than your SPOOKY, TERRORIST, TERRORIST prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu – says Israeli professor Neve Gordon.

    Shalom – Rehmat.

    http://www.wrmea.org/1996-october/spook-terrorist-or-criminal-america-s-mysterious-files-on-netanyahu.html

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    Hi Rehmat . Devolving into childish name calling is the surest sign of someone that does not have a convincing argument . Nevertheless I am grateful to people like Ron Unz that give an open comments platform to people like you . Other more mainstream sites may censor or block a commenter like you who is obviously unhinged and not capable of conversing without calling people idiots . You not having a safe space to rant and rave might cause you to take your verbal jihad to real life , like your fellow countryman Farook the pakistani san bernardino terrorist .
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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We’ve all witnessed (including in ourselves?) an aspect of what has been described elsewhere as “GoodWhiting,” flustering, emulating, or otherwise trying too hard when encountering members of a perceived victim group. And then felt embarrassed afterward.

    But to do so in print, years later, remaining clueless? The racial self-flaggelation and worshipful view of Newton in these excerpts from Mr. Trivers’ book are downright creepy. It’s like watching the least popular kid in 7th grade asking the cheerleader, yet again, to dance.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    “mob of whites burned Tulsa to the ground…”

    Almost a 100 years ago. How many whites have been victimised by black criminal activity in the last 50 years?

    “..to be the only unarmed people in a country built on armed violence is not a good thing”.

    Right. Because its not like black on black shootings are commonplace.

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  • @marwan
    ive never seen reliable statistics , what percentage of world jewry is zionist ?

    ive never seen reliable statistics , what percentage of world jewry is zionist ?

    88%

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  • When the California legislature was meeting to decide whether to pass the “Huey Newton law,” as it was popularly called, which stated that you could no longer “ride shotgun” but instead had to keep your loaded gun in your locked trunk, Huey and thirty five other Panthers showed up in Sacramento on the day of the vote, most of them carrying rifles.

    Kind of like something the Oregon Militia might do.

    Many African Americans of more recent times have a strong ambivalence or hostility toward Huey and the Panthers because they believe he helped spawn the culture of black gun violence among the urban young. There is probably some truth to the charge, but I think harsh drug penalties take a larger part of the blame. With the stakes so high for being caught selling illicit drugs, the chances of internecine war and murder inevitably rise as well.

    Oh, so gangstas shoot each other from fear of going to prison. It’s not like the drug gangs are doing it for money, turf, and machismo or anything. The original Crips gang was inspired by the gun posturing and gangland activities of the Black Panther Party.

    To those who make this charge against Huey, I would also ask what alternative they’d propose to black gun ownership.

    It’s not about blacks owning guns. It’s about Panther-inspired thugs owning guns. The thug legacy of the Panthers and others of their ilk has done more damage to blacks than any police department has.

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  • I’m sure Trivers was charmed by Newton. But underneath that charm Newton was nothing but a thug, as many in Oakland during the 1970s found out the hard way. If Trivers had anything Newton wanted from him, he probably would have found out too.

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  • @Rehmat
    I go by the ACID TEST recommended by Israel-born writer, author and Jazz musician, Gilad Atzmon. He says a Jew who believes that Israel has the right to exist, is a ZIONIST JEW.

    "It is an obvious fact that the Israelis do not belong to the region. The Jewish claim for Zion i.e. Palestine is beyond pathetic. It is in fact as ridiculous as a bunch of Italian settlers invading London’s Piccadilly Circus claiming their right to return to a land once occupied by their Roman forefathers. Obviously Italians would not get away with it, Zionists, on the other hand, have managed to fool the nations for more than a while," Atzmon said.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/

    the proper term is litmus test , sorry to quibble ,but that doesnt tell me a percentage . highly subjective and bereft of any quantifiable data . a jazz musician is also not a reputable source , as he has no background or expertise . akin to asking john q six pack off the street and holding it up as reliable data .

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    You're a typical brainwashed Israeli "shifting sands" idiot who cannot stay on one topic.

    NOPE: My non-Zionist dictionary do mention ACID TEST.

    Your "discredited Israeli musician" has 100-times better record than your SPOOKY, TERRORIST, TERRORIST prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu - says Israeli professor Neve Gordon.

    Shalom - Rehmat.

    http://www.wrmea.org/1996-october/spook-terrorist-or-criminal-america-s-mysterious-files-on-netanyahu.html
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    ive never seen reliable statistics , what percentage of world jewry is zionist ?

    I go by the ACID TEST recommended by Israel-born writer, author and Jazz musician, Gilad Atzmon. He says a Jew who believes that Israel has the right to exist, is a ZIONIST JEW.

    “It is an obvious fact that the Israelis do not belong to the region. The Jewish claim for Zion i.e. Palestine is beyond pathetic. It is in fact as ridiculous as a bunch of Italian settlers invading London’s Piccadilly Circus claiming their right to return to a land once occupied by their Roman forefathers. Obviously Italians would not get away with it, Zionists, on the other hand, have managed to fool the nations for more than a while,” Atzmon said.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/

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    the proper term is litmus test , sorry to quibble ,but that doesnt tell me a percentage . highly subjective and bereft of any quantifiable data . a jazz musician is also not a reputable source , as he has no background or expertise . akin to asking john q six pack off the street and holding it up as reliable data .
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  • @Rehmat
    Correction sir - In my book, all Jews are not bad - only Zionist Jews. I have several Jewish writers and bloggers (Gilad Atzmon, Roger Tucker, Paul Eisen, Lasse Wihelmson, Mary Rizzo, etc. as friend. Some of them have re-blogged my articles.

    Al-Baghdadi aka Simon was born into a French Jewish family and trained by Israeli Mossad.

    Al-Saud 'royals' belong to an old Iraqi Jewish family.

    Osama Bin Laden worked for CIA and Saudi Arabia 'royals' for decades.

    Major Nadal Hassan and tsarnayev brothers were framed as was Pakistani mother of two and currently serving 85 year in jail while America's top Jewish traitor Pollard is walking free.

    San Bernardino shooters, Paris shooters, Shoe bomber, Underwear bomber, 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai shooters, Bali bombing, etc. and many more have been proven to be inside jobs with Mossad-CIA collaboration.

    None of my friends are victims of the rapists at cologne - but if some of yours' have been - then I do apology on behalf of 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Rehmat

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/09/25/aafia-siddiqui-victim-of-zionist-justice/

    ive never seen reliable statistics , what percentage of world jewry is zionist ?

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    I go by the ACID TEST recommended by Israel-born writer, author and Jazz musician, Gilad Atzmon. He says a Jew who believes that Israel has the right to exist, is a ZIONIST JEW.

    "It is an obvious fact that the Israelis do not belong to the region. The Jewish claim for Zion i.e. Palestine is beyond pathetic. It is in fact as ridiculous as a bunch of Italian settlers invading London’s Piccadilly Circus claiming their right to return to a land once occupied by their Roman forefathers. Obviously Italians would not get away with it, Zionists, on the other hand, have managed to fool the nations for more than a while," Atzmon said.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/
    , @Art
    ive never seen reliable statistics , what percentage of world jewry is zionist ?

    88%
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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The article confirms what many have known all along, that the Panthers were a criminal organization that adopted a political veneer as cover. Being able to quote and discuss Fanon and class struggle (just the leadership, the rank-and-file were sub-literate) endeared them to the mostly well-to-do youth of SDS and other lefty groups and individuals such as Bernstein who thought they were embarking on a new ‘popular front’ against the system, leading to a brave new world.
    Adult males dressed in black leather jackets, berets and carrying rifles working as school crossing guards. That sounds nice, what could go wrong with that? That’s a good example for young children, right? In actual fact children were just props for their political stunts. They always make a big deal about the Panther school children free food program. Since none of them ever worked for a living has anybody ever wondered where the money for all that actually came from? They were running extortion rackets against businesses and shopkeepers; one for the kiddies, one for me, etc.
    Trivers got his excitement hanging on to Newton’s coattails with all his bad-boy behavior and ever present specter of danger, the epitome of a nerd groupie. He never went to prison for some hard time or got in a shootout himself, oh no, he had a career ahead for himself.

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  • @marwan
    88 brother !!
    Love reading your pieces rehmat , you are truly a man of letters . I agree with everything you said about jews . One thing I would like to add . Do you agree that all bad muslims are really crypto jews , or at least controlled by jews ? Bin laden , Baghdaddi , Saudi royal family , san Bernardino shooters , nadal hasan , tsarnayev brothers , the paris shooters , shoe bomber , underwear bomber , the rapists at cologne ?? Makes sense to me . I have been advocating for an alliance between white nationalists and muslims for a long time now . I think your alliance with the leftists is unsound .

    Correction sir – In my book, all Jews are not bad – only Zionist Jews. I have several Jewish writers and bloggers (Gilad Atzmon, Roger Tucker, Paul Eisen, Lasse Wihelmson, Mary Rizzo, etc. as friend. Some of them have re-blogged my articles.

    Al-Baghdadi aka Simon was born into a French Jewish family and trained by Israeli Mossad.

    Al-Saud ‘royals’ belong to an old Iraqi Jewish family.

    Osama Bin Laden worked for CIA and Saudi Arabia ‘royals’ for decades.

    Major Nadal Hassan and tsarnayev brothers were framed as was Pakistani mother of two and currently serving 85 year in jail while America’s top Jewish traitor Pollard is walking free.

    San Bernardino shooters, Paris shooters, Shoe bomber, Underwear bomber, 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai shooters, Bali bombing, etc. and many more have been proven to be inside jobs with Mossad-CIA collaboration.

    None of my friends are victims of the rapists at cologne – but if some of yours’ have been – then I do apology on behalf of 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Rehmat

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/09/25/aafia-siddiqui-victim-of-zionist-justice/

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  • He would sometimes remind me that he was a quarter Jewish, knowing full well that I was almost half – and he once took me aside and said, “Don’t let your racism against white people cause you to discriminate against your lighter skinned twin, Natalia.” Guilty on both accounts.

    Were Huey Newton fond of the Bard, he might’ve added “I am but mad north-northwest; but when the wind is southerly, I know a Jew from a white man.”

    And he did, too.

    The most memorable instance of deceiving down that I learned about was when Huey Newton taught me the Black-American term “dummying up.” This refers to a tendency to represent yourself as being less intelligent and less conscious than you actually are, usually the better to minimize the work you have to do. So an employee may dummy up in order to avoid being required to do more difficult things.

    Laziness as political resistance: a potent reminder to us all that there are some ideas that are so f%$!#@n’ stupid only a college professor could ever believe them.

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  • @David
    Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?

    Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?

    It is indeed that, but certainly no worse than a lot of the WN/HBD crap that gets posted.

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  • @David
    Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?

    This is just a magnified example of a behavior that’s observable in everyday life. Watch how some (many, actually) white people react when another white person gives them a compliment (or acts friendly towards them), then compare it with how they react when a black person does the same things. When the compliment is given by a another white person, the recipient is polite and gracious. When the compliment is given by a black person, however, the white recipient starts gushing and acting as if he has been accepted by a whole race of people, even if the compliment is trivial. He feels validated, as if he has finally broken through a “barrier”…or something. It’s as if the recipient feels the compliment is some sort of gift…one that he doesn’t deserve.

    I see this all the time…or to the extent that blacks give compliments to whites, anyway, which isn’t often. The smiles are bigger if the compliment comes from a black person. I’m not imagining this. Robert Trivers is a moron. Not clinically, but in a life sense. He allowed himself to be manipulated by a master manipulator. That’s what leftist radicals are – manipulators. Turning a previously planned robbery into a “political statement” would be a prime example of this. And Robert Trivers would’ve seen that…if he weren’t a moron.

    Unz likes Trivers because of the Gould stuff.

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  • @Rehmat
    Mr. Trivers - do you know that most of European Jewish terrorist militias which formed Israel's Armed Forces, were collaborators of Nazis and Italian Fascists?

    In 2013, FBI doubled bounty for Assata Shakur’s (born as Joanne Deborah Byron in 1947) capture ‘alive or dead’ to $2 million. Israel-First New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez praised FBI director Robert Mueller for raising the bar on Assata Shakur saying: “Adding Chesimard to your Top Ten list and the Top 25 Most Wanted Terrorists lists would very much aid local New Jersey law enforcement in their efforts to finally bring Joanne Chesimard to justice.”

    Joanne Deborah Byron faced racism then and now as a young woman. She joined the Black Panther Party and, later, the Black Liberation Army in order to fight racism against Blacks, Capitalism and American imperialism. In 1973, she was travelling in the company of Malik Zayad Shakur (no relation) and Sundiata Acol in New Jersey. They’re stopped by the state troopers reportedly because of a broken headlight. The three are made to exit the car with their hands up. All of a sudden, shots are fired. The state trooper Werner Foerster and Malik Shakur were found killed by Foester’s gun. Assata Shakur and Acoli were charged with the death of state trooper Foerster. But the Jewish press have its own story to demonize Shakur.

    And I must say, the Jewish Lobby has every right to hate Assata Shakur, and the current leaders of the New Black Panther Party including its president Malik Zulu Shabazz (born Paris Lewis) for believing that Israel was involved in 9/11 terrorist attacks,; Jewish elites control America’s monetary system, mainstream media, Hollywood and even country’s internal security agencies.

    On May 18, 2013, the Anti-Defamation League, the powerful Israeli advocacy group, declared Malik Zulu Shabazz, Nadia Assata Shakur and the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) being anti-Israel and anti-Jews; thus “antisemite”, even though studies after studies have proved that a great majority of Jews are not Semite people.

    In 1977, she was sentenced to life imprisonment by a bought-out jury for the crime which was not proven she committed. But, then, that’s what’s called ‘American Justice’.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/18/assata-shakur-from-civil-rights-activist-to-terrorist/

    88 brother !!
    Love reading your pieces rehmat , you are truly a man of letters . I agree with everything you said about jews . One thing I would like to add . Do you agree that all bad muslims are really crypto jews , or at least controlled by jews ? Bin laden , Baghdaddi , Saudi royal family , san Bernardino shooters , nadal hasan , tsarnayev brothers , the paris shooters , shoe bomber , underwear bomber , the rapists at cologne ?? Makes sense to me . I have been advocating for an alliance between white nationalists and muslims for a long time now . I think your alliance with the leftists is unsound .

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    Correction sir - In my book, all Jews are not bad - only Zionist Jews. I have several Jewish writers and bloggers (Gilad Atzmon, Roger Tucker, Paul Eisen, Lasse Wihelmson, Mary Rizzo, etc. as friend. Some of them have re-blogged my articles.

    Al-Baghdadi aka Simon was born into a French Jewish family and trained by Israeli Mossad.

    Al-Saud 'royals' belong to an old Iraqi Jewish family.

    Osama Bin Laden worked for CIA and Saudi Arabia 'royals' for decades.

    Major Nadal Hassan and tsarnayev brothers were framed as was Pakistani mother of two and currently serving 85 year in jail while America's top Jewish traitor Pollard is walking free.

    San Bernardino shooters, Paris shooters, Shoe bomber, Underwear bomber, 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai shooters, Bali bombing, etc. and many more have been proven to be inside jobs with Mossad-CIA collaboration.

    None of my friends are victims of the rapists at cologne - but if some of yours' have been - then I do apology on behalf of 1.7 billion Muslims.

    Rehmat

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/09/25/aafia-siddiqui-victim-of-zionist-justice/
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  • Mr. Trivers – do you know that most of European Jewish terrorist militias which formed Israel’s Armed Forces, were collaborators of Nazis and Italian Fascists?

    In 2013, FBI doubled bounty for Assata Shakur’s (born as Joanne Deborah Byron in 1947) capture ‘alive or dead’ to $2 million. Israel-First New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez praised FBI director Robert Mueller for raising the bar on Assata Shakur saying: “Adding Chesimard to your Top Ten list and the Top 25 Most Wanted Terrorists lists would very much aid local New Jersey law enforcement in their efforts to finally bring Joanne Chesimard to justice.”

    Joanne Deborah Byron faced racism then and now as a young woman. She joined the Black Panther Party and, later, the Black Liberation Army in order to fight racism against Blacks, Capitalism and American imperialism. In 1973, she was travelling in the company of Malik Zayad Shakur (no relation) and Sundiata Acol in New Jersey. They’re stopped by the state troopers reportedly because of a broken headlight. The three are made to exit the car with their hands up. All of a sudden, shots are fired. The state trooper Werner Foerster and Malik Shakur were found killed by Foester’s gun. Assata Shakur and Acoli were charged with the death of state trooper Foerster. But the Jewish press have its own story to demonize Shakur.

    And I must say, the Jewish Lobby has every right to hate Assata Shakur, and the current leaders of the New Black Panther Party including its president Malik Zulu Shabazz (born Paris Lewis) for believing that Israel was involved in 9/11 terrorist attacks,; Jewish elites control America’s monetary system, mainstream media, Hollywood and even country’s internal security agencies.

    On May 18, 2013, the Anti-Defamation League, the powerful Israeli advocacy group, declared Malik Zulu Shabazz, Nadia Assata Shakur and the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) being anti-Israel and anti-Jews; thus “antisemite”, even though studies after studies have proved that a great majority of Jews are not Semite people.

    In 1977, she was sentenced to life imprisonment by a bought-out jury for the crime which was not proven she committed. But, then, that’s what’s called ‘American Justice’.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/18/assata-shakur-from-civil-rights-activist-to-terrorist/

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    88 brother !!
    Love reading your pieces rehmat , you are truly a man of letters . I agree with everything you said about jews . One thing I would like to add . Do you agree that all bad muslims are really crypto jews , or at least controlled by jews ? Bin laden , Baghdaddi , Saudi royal family , san Bernardino shooters , nadal hasan , tsarnayev brothers , the paris shooters , shoe bomber , underwear bomber , the rapists at cologne ?? Makes sense to me . I have been advocating for an alliance between white nationalists and muslims for a long time now . I think your alliance with the leftists is unsound .
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  • Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?

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    This is just a magnified example of a behavior that's observable in everyday life. Watch how some (many, actually) white people react when another white person gives them a compliment (or acts friendly towards them), then compare it with how they react when a black person does the same things. When the compliment is given by a another white person, the recipient is polite and gracious. When the compliment is given by a black person, however, the white recipient starts gushing and acting as if he has been accepted by a whole race of people, even if the compliment is trivial. He feels validated, as if he has finally broken through a "barrier"...or something. It's as if the recipient feels the compliment is some sort of gift...one that he doesn't deserve.

    I see this all the time...or to the extent that blacks give compliments to whites, anyway, which isn't often. The smiles are bigger if the compliment comes from a black person. I'm not imagining this. Robert Trivers is a moron. Not clinically, but in a life sense. He allowed himself to be manipulated by a master manipulator. That's what leftist radicals are - manipulators. Turning a previously planned robbery into a "political statement" would be a prime example of this. And Robert Trivers would've seen that...if he weren't a moron.

    Unz likes Trivers because of the Gould stuff.

    , @Thirdeye

    Why is this simple-minded, poorly written tripe being promoted at Unz.com?
     
    It is indeed that, but certainly no worse than a lot of the WN/HBD crap that gets posted.
    , @Aaron Gross
    I think Trivers' memoirs are better written than practically anything else on this site. It's fun to read, too. Keep posting it, Mr. Unz!
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  • i blame : zionists , the mossad , neocons , israel , jews , the msm . my tinfoil hat is never wrong !!!

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 11 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] One of the few benefits of moving from Harvard to the University of California at Santa Cruz in 1978 was the chance to meet the legendary founder of the Black Panther Party Huey Newton. Indeed he was waved in...
  • @Rich
    I'm a White man who has absolutely nothing to answer for on any so-called "maltreatment of blacks." I didn't bring them here, I never owned any and I avoid them as much as possible, yet I have to pay for their welfare, their food stamps and their section 8 housing. When my great-great grandfather volunteered to fight for the Union Army back in 1863, he made a tragic mistake, no black man ever thanked him, or, as a matter of fact, thanked me for being his descendant.

    I’ve said it before; when it comes to blacks, I believe in reparations for past debts. Every black family in America descended from slaves owes the descendants of Union soldiers $5000 each because their ancestors freed the slaves. $10,000 to every descendant of Union soldiers who died in the war. And $15,000 to every Southerner whose ancestors lived in South while it was being decimated by the North in an unnecessary war.

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 14 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] The low point in my relationship with Jamaica came fairly recently. In 2007 I won the Crafoord Prize from the Swedish Royal Society. It was worth $500,000. When it was announced in the local Jamaican newspaper, I knew immediately...
  • @Rehmat
    Had Robert Trivers had compared his "experience" with statics on home robbery, sexual abuse of minors or women, and murder in White-majority United States - he would have found Jamaica as peanuts.

    According to women's right groups, "a woman is raped every 90 seconds in United States". Don't forget the US is home to world's largest population of LGBT (28 million). America has highest numbers of citizen deaths (11,320 in 2013) as result of robberies, house-hold conflicts, fight over girlfriend, and police killing of the so-called "home grown terrorists", mostly Muslims and Blacks. United States also has the honor of having world's highest numbers of "jail birds" (2.1% of country's total population) - followed by China.

    Jamaican could be excused for such crimes based on poverty, lack of education, etc. But what excuse Whites in the US and Canada have? Some highest educated White folks have done heinous sexual acts believing they're required by their Christian faith. Take for example, professor Julie Macfarlane (University of Windsor, Ontario) provided oral sex to her priest at age 16 for over one year, believing Bible demanded that.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/12/18/god-wanted-me-to-perform-oral-sex-on-my-priest/

    You are cherry picking. Also, poverty is not a reason to excuse crime. There are many poor places in the world that have a very low level of crime. Spiritual poverty my friend.

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  • [Excerpted from Chapter 11 of Wild Life: Adventures of an Evolutionary Biologist by Prof. Robert Trivers.] One of the few benefits of moving from Harvard to the University of California at Santa Cruz in 1978 was the chance to meet the legendary founder of the Black Panther Party Huey Newton. Indeed he was waved in...
  • @Bill P

    I needed no priming. In the early ’60s I had come to believe that African Americans should take a page out of Jewish history and murder those murderers of their own people who did not and could not receive justice in any other way. Just as the Jews had caught, tried, convicted, and executed Adolf Eichmann, I fantasized about a crack infiltration team doing the same in Mississippi to Byron de la Beckwith, who had murdered the courageous black NAACP leader Medgar Evers and then been duly acquitted by an all-male, all white jury in that state “drenched in racism.”
     
    I don't really have a dog in this fight (I'm not a southerner, a Jew or a black), but what if blacks decided to exact vigilante justice on Jewish slumlords? Would that be OK, or is there something fundamentally different where Christian whites are involved?

    Point is that Jews have at least as much to answer for on a man to man basis as white Christians when it comes to maltreatment of blacks in the United States. Probably more when you go back to the days of slavery. Abolitionism was a distinctly unpopular position among Jews prior to the Civil War, you know.

    So to bring up one's Jewishness to justify black grievances strikes me as somewhat discordant with the facts on the ground, if we're going to be honest here.

    I’m a White man who has absolutely nothing to answer for on any so-called “maltreatment of blacks.” I didn’t bring them here, I never owned any and I avoid them as much as possible, yet I have to pay for their welfare, their food stamps and their section 8 housing. When my great-great grandfather volunteered to fight for the Union Army back in 1863, he made a tragic mistake, no black man ever thanked him, or, as a matter of fact, thanked me for being his descendant.

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    I've said it before; when it comes to blacks, I believe in reparations for past debts. Every black family in America descended from slaves owes the descendants of Union soldiers $5000 each because their ancestors freed the slaves. $10,000 to every descendant of Union soldiers who died in the war. And $15,000 to every Southerner whose ancestors lived in South while it was being decimated by the North in an unnecessary war.
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  • @art
    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one.

    Not to be argumentative – but isn’t the idea that the personality of groups and cultures can evolve genetically, a very big deal for human kind?

    Isn’t the understanding that an intellectual culture can be selective of which genetic emotional traits that are passed on, of major importance? Isn’t that what Sociobiology is about? Isn’t Sociobiology about social group organization and genetic makeup?

    Is not the European mind and the Arab mind actually different? Does not the Euro and Arab mind have different sociobiological reactions to the same situations?

    In 1776 the Christian people of America were genetically capable of extending freedom to each other. They had the sociobiological intellectual and emotional tools to do so. They had the right genetic emotional makeup to organize themselves for freedom.

    It could be argued, that today the Arab peoples do not have the genetic emotional makeup to foster democracy or freedom. Their sociobiological culture does not foster the emotional makeup that is required for organized freedom.

    I completely agree with what you are saying about gene-culture evolution in human beings. As human beings we find sociobiology extremely pertinent. My point in the earlier post was that there are harder problems in evolutionary biology, which when solved will elucidate evolution of all species, over all of evolutionary time. From the viewpoint of evolutionary biology, sociobiology is applicable only to a small subset of biodiversity. On the other hand, when cogitating as one attached to Western Civilization, a person will find sociobiology invaluable.

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  • @Art
    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    From lesser minds - yes. Not from equal minds.

    A Robert Ingersoll quote regarding an attacker of Thomas Paine “Once an ass kicked a lion – the lion was dead.”

    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    “”From lesser minds – yes. Not from equal minds.””

    Now that’s a lie. That is a lie. Scientist James Watson is one of his generations, if not from the entire 20th century, premier elite scientists. Did he receive great leeway? Answer: No, he did not.

    What part of the phrase “It is best to observe life as it really is, not how one wishes or desires it to be”, isn’t comprehendible?

    In the second decade of the 21st century, political realities and the Narrative regarding Who/Whom trump getting leeway of any sort or kind.

    All one would have to do is ask this question: By objective standards, would not a Yale graduate/Paris U. Political Institute graduate; fluent in both French and Japanese; a pioneer in coverage of the tech/PC industry be given great leeway in his public opinions? If this were 1916, one might think that that would be the case indeed.

    But it is now 2016, and the person just mentioned is Jarred Taylor.

    One would not expect any, repeat ANY “equal minds” or those part of the intellectual/scientific class to publicly line up and support Mr. Taylor’s right to publicly express his opinions. In point of fact, the vast majority of scientists on the order of a James Watson or Robert Trivers would be wholeheartedly on the other side–publicly condemning Taylor and calling for him to receive some sort of punishment in the public realm of ideas a la SPLC. Very, very few intellectuals scientists etc would support Mr Taylors right to express his opinion and the younger generations wholeheartedly support his censure if not outright eventual imprisonment for expressing what they deem to be Hate Crimes.

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  • @Qasim
    I recently read Trivers' previous book, "The Folly of Fools". It was a surreal experience. The book is filled with incredible insights on human nature, his treatment on how self-deception is a central aspect of human life is really illuminating. Readers of this website would really love his treatment of the social sciences and how political and ideological considerations basically make most of academia's conclusions suspect, if not worthless.

    But the book is also filled with his juvenile and laughably biased political views, his own self-delusion is stunning. This article is just further proof that genius in one domain and idiocy in another are often linked.

    ” . . . [G]enius in one domain and idiocy in another are often linked.” I hadn’t considered that an astonishing abundance of one characteristic or ability may actually be connected, causally or strongly correlated, with an equally astonishing deficit in other characteristics. I’d always thought the deficits were accident, not, as you suggest, an essential counterpoise.

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  • I recently read Trivers’ previous book, “The Folly of Fools”. It was a surreal experience. The book is filled with incredible insights on human nature, his treatment on how self-deception is a central aspect of human life is really illuminating. Readers of this website would really love his treatment of the social sciences and how political and ideological considerations basically make most of academia’s conclusions suspect, if not worthless.

    But the book is also filled with his juvenile and laughably biased political views, his own self-delusion is stunning. This article is just further proof that genius in one domain and idiocy in another are often linked.

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    " . . . [G]enius in one domain and idiocy in another are often linked." I hadn't considered that an astonishing abundance of one characteristic or ability may actually be connected, causally or strongly correlated, with an equally astonishing deficit in other characteristics. I'd always thought the deficits were accident, not, as you suggest, an essential counterpoise.
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  • @Jay
    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one. It seems important because it deals with phenomena that form our lives, but they are irrelevant or much less important in most species.

    Evolutionary biology still doesn't have a theory of whole-organism adaptation. When that is created, then the step forward in level of understanding will be gigantic. Until then we are left with the fatuous formulation: "Evolution is the change of gene frequencies."

    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one.

    Not to be argumentative – but isn’t the idea that the personality of groups and cultures can evolve genetically, a very big deal for human kind?

    Isn’t the understanding that an intellectual culture can be selective of which genetic emotional traits that are passed on, of major importance? Isn’t that what Sociobiology is about? Isn’t Sociobiology about social group organization and genetic makeup?

    Is not the European mind and the Arab mind actually different? Does not the Euro and Arab mind have different sociobiological reactions to the same situations?

    In 1776 the Christian people of America were genetically capable of extending freedom to each other. They had the sociobiological intellectual and emotional tools to do so. They had the right genetic emotional makeup to organize themselves for freedom.

    It could be argued, that today the Arab peoples do not have the genetic emotional makeup to foster democracy or freedom. Their sociobiological culture does not foster the emotional makeup that is required for organized freedom.

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    I completely agree with what you are saying about gene-culture evolution in human beings. As human beings we find sociobiology extremely pertinent. My point in the earlier post was that there are harder problems in evolutionary biology, which when solved will elucidate evolution of all species, over all of evolutionary time. From the viewpoint of evolutionary biology, sociobiology is applicable only to a small subset of biodiversity. On the other hand, when cogitating as one attached to Western Civilization, a person will find sociobiology invaluable.
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  • @Priss Factor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6rIErgtJ2M

    My takeaway from that video — just say no!

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  • @Tattood White Trash
    Oh, I see, it's a matter of what you've evolved into. Somehow, I have a hard time believing that evolving towards hatred is superior to, actually productive things like hunting and growing rice.

    Not that I actually believe any of the crap you're spewing.

    Outlier Whiteboy

    Apparently you are unaware of the hugely greater per capita black-against-white violent crime in the U.S., and unaware of the black genocide against white farmers in South Africa. You are unaware also of the hbd theory that northern Europeans are especially cooperative, which is why they have been able to create civilization worthy of the name. This is the necessary knowledge to understand v’s comments. You don’t seem to have it.

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  • @Art
    Huey Newton aside – Robert Trivers is a major figure in science. The field of Sociobiology is a giant step in the field of Darwinian evolution.

    Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.

    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one. It seems important because it deals with phenomena that form our lives, but they are irrelevant or much less important in most species.

    Evolutionary biology still doesn’t have a theory of whole-organism adaptation. When that is created, then the step forward in level of understanding will be gigantic. Until then we are left with the fatuous formulation: “Evolution is the change of gene frequencies.”

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    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one.

    Not to be argumentative – but isn’t the idea that the personality of groups and cultures can evolve genetically, a very big deal for human kind?

    Isn’t the understanding that an intellectual culture can be selective of which genetic emotional traits that are passed on, of major importance? Isn’t that what Sociobiology is about? Isn’t Sociobiology about social group organization and genetic makeup?

    Is not the European mind and the Arab mind actually different? Does not the Euro and Arab mind have different sociobiological reactions to the same situations?

    In 1776 the Christian people of America were genetically capable of extending freedom to each other. They had the sociobiological intellectual and emotional tools to do so. They had the right genetic emotional makeup to organize themselves for freedom.

    It could be argued, that today the Arab peoples do not have the genetic emotional makeup to foster democracy or freedom. Their sociobiological culture does not foster the emotional makeup that is required for organized freedom.
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  • Robert,

    I like your hero worship story. You got to meet your hero, few of us are so lucky.

    Oh course, even Huey is just a human, like the rest of us, so he had his flaws too. Clearly he was hooked on coke, but whatever, I was hooked on speed back in the 80s so who am I to judge. It doesn’t mean his ideas are worth less.

    I hope you see that you were gullible. When a guy gets in your car and says “I’m dirty”, you have to make a choice: “get the fuck out of my car” or “oh, sure, I’ll aid and abet your crime.” If you were driving with Huey when he had a “quarter pound” of coke and got busted, you could have been doing 20 years with him. The good news is, the statute of limitations has expired. I truly hope you didn’t drive him to go commit a murder because, well, you could still get punished.

    Like you said, Huey understood the “misdemeanor” aspect of the law. I hope you can see now how that means he understood exactly how much he put you, the unwitting dupe, at risk as you drove him to commit felonies.

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  • @Colleen Pater
    averages are important in designing functioning societies. Blacks on average make a civilized life with them impossible, even slavery and jim crow was not workable and also cruel. The fact of you outlier black friends being so nice is irrelevant. whats going on is people are trying to live and even upraise blacks while liberals point at the injustices of a few and propagandize away the reality of the many. The problem is blacks are not evolved for western environment anymore than we are for hunter gathering on a Savannah or cooperative rice farming on a east asian hillside. multiculturalism destroys everyones culture and dignity. The alternative to heavy handed policing og blacks proved over and over is haiti. blacks should be returned to their natural environment and all western technology and aid removed let them subside to a sustainable level of large fauna living traditional african ways.

    Oh, I see, it’s a matter of what you’ve evolved into. Somehow, I have a hard time believing that evolving towards hatred is superior to, actually productive things like hunting and growing rice.

    Not that I actually believe any of the crap you’re spewing.

    Outlier Whiteboy

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    Apparently you are unaware of the hugely greater per capita black-against-white violent crime in the U.S., and unaware of the black genocide against white farmers in South Africa. You are unaware also of the hbd theory that northern Europeans are especially cooperative, which is why they have been able to create civilization worthy of the name. This is the necessary knowledge to understand v's comments. You don't seem to have it.
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  • @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway."

    Uh,....no. That's not how life works.

    If a respected scholar, scientist, etc. held an opposite viewpoints from the political Left, and he were to espouse various opinions regarding say, David Duke, and held to views that are more consistent with Duke's ideology regarding race, and racial relations, etc., would this person be given slack and leeway in the MSM and/or the popular culture at large?

    Answer: No. He'd be lucky not to be indicted for a hate crime, especially if it was published in an autobiography. Witness the treatment that esteemed scientist James Watson received for his opinions. Was it anywhere near what this person is receiving? The answer is obvious.

    If one should be given a pass, based on his academic credentials then so too should all academics be given a pass, based on academic credentials/prowess. In the ideal world, this consistency shown to academics would certainly occur.

    Unfortunately, however, we do not live in the ideal world and must face the world head on as it really is.

    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    From lesser minds – yes. Not from equal minds.

    A Robert Ingersoll quote regarding an attacker of Thomas Paine “Once an ass kicked a lion – the lion was dead.”

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    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    ""From lesser minds – yes. Not from equal minds.""

    Now that's a lie. That is a lie. Scientist James Watson is one of his generations, if not from the entire 20th century, premier elite scientists. Did he receive great leeway? Answer: No, he did not.

    What part of the phrase "It is best to observe life as it really is, not how one wishes or desires it to be", isn't comprehendible?

    In the second decade of the 21st century, political realities and the Narrative regarding Who/Whom trump getting leeway of any sort or kind.

    All one would have to do is ask this question: By objective standards, would not a Yale graduate/Paris U. Political Institute graduate; fluent in both French and Japanese; a pioneer in coverage of the tech/PC industry be given great leeway in his public opinions? If this were 1916, one might think that that would be the case indeed.

    But it is now 2016, and the person just mentioned is Jarred Taylor.

    One would not expect any, repeat ANY "equal minds" or those part of the intellectual/scientific class to publicly line up and support Mr. Taylor's right to publicly express his opinions. In point of fact, the vast majority of scientists on the order of a James Watson or Robert Trivers would be wholeheartedly on the other side--publicly condemning Taylor and calling for him to receive some sort of punishment in the public realm of ideas a la SPLC. Very, very few intellectuals scientists etc would support Mr Taylors right to express his opinion and the younger generations wholeheartedly support his censure if not outright eventual imprisonment for expressing what they deem to be Hate Crimes.
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  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    I gathered that the closing time was a ruse. If possible, they preferred to avoid serving Newton. After all, can't you normally buy a drink up to closing time (following last call)?

    Why must Trivers moralize about it? I'm not moralizing either, but everyone ignores that the context suggests that Newton had no intention of robbing anyone (he wouldn't even take the drink for free) and that the threat was made as part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist.

    Why must Trivers moralize about it? I’m not moralizing either, but everyone ignores that the context suggests that Newton had no intention of robbing anyone (he wouldn’t even take the drink for free) and that the threat was made as part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist.

    He had the intention of at the very least scaring them into serving him, and if that’s “part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist” then I don’t know what isn’t. I don’t see why you would doubt that Newton would’ve been capable of robbing the place, considering he spent his life as a drug-addicted violent criminal.

    By the way, we’re told that “knocking the place up” meant robbing everyone in the bar, and there were at least some blacks there. If Newton just wanted to rob whites I guess that Trivers would justify it as fighting racism. But I guess part of the nationalist struggle means that blacks and whites must be threatened so that Huey Newton gets to drink when he wants.

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  • I needed no priming. In the early ’60s I had come to believe that African Americans should take a page out of Jewish history and murder those murderers of their own people who did not and could not receive justice in any other way. Just as the Jews had caught, tried, convicted, and executed Adolf Eichmann, I fantasized about a crack infiltration team doing the same in Mississippi to Byron de la Beckwith, who had murdered the courageous black NAACP leader Medgar Evers and then been duly acquitted by an all-male, all white jury in that state “drenched in racism.”

    I don’t really have a dog in this fight (I’m not a southerner, a Jew or a black), but what if blacks decided to exact vigilante justice on Jewish slumlords? Would that be OK, or is there something fundamentally different where Christian whites are involved?

    Point is that Jews have at least as much to answer for on a man to man basis as white Christians when it comes to maltreatment of blacks in the United States. Probably more when you go back to the days of slavery. Abolitionism was a distinctly unpopular position among Jews prior to the Civil War, you know.

    So to bring up one’s Jewishness to justify black grievances strikes me as somewhat discordant with the facts on the ground, if we’re going to be honest here.

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    I'm a White man who has absolutely nothing to answer for on any so-called "maltreatment of blacks." I didn't bring them here, I never owned any and I avoid them as much as possible, yet I have to pay for their welfare, their food stamps and their section 8 housing. When my great-great grandfather volunteered to fight for the Union Army back in 1863, he made a tragic mistake, no black man ever thanked him, or, as a matter of fact, thanked me for being his descendant.
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  • @Art
    Huey Newton aside – Robert Trivers is a major figure in science. The field of Sociobiology is a giant step in the field of Darwinian evolution.

    Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.

    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    If a respected scholar, scientist, etc. held an opposite viewpoints from the political Left, and he were to espouse various opinions regarding say, David Duke, and held to views that are more consistent with Duke’s ideology regarding race, and racial relations, etc., would this person be given slack and leeway in the MSM and/or the popular culture at large?

    Answer: No. He’d be lucky not to be indicted for a hate crime, especially if it was published in an autobiography. Witness the treatment that esteemed scientist James Watson received for his opinions. Was it anywhere near what this person is receiving? The answer is obvious.

    If one should be given a pass, based on his academic credentials then so too should all academics be given a pass, based on academic credentials/prowess. In the ideal world, this consistency shown to academics would certainly occur.

    Unfortunately, however, we do not live in the ideal world and must face the world head on as it really is.

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    “Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.”

    Uh,….no. That’s not how life works.

    From lesser minds - yes. Not from equal minds.

    A Robert Ingersoll quote regarding an attacker of Thomas Paine “Once an ass kicked a lion – the lion was dead.”
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  • @Hepp
    What struck me about the bar story is that the earlier stuff you could justify as racist cops and fighting back and unjust system and all that nonsense. But what's the moral justification for threatening to rob a bar and everyone in it so that they serve you a drink? Pure joy in sadism and thuggery, without the most feeble attempt at a moral justification. That anecdote in particular caused me to lose the last shred of respect I had for Trivers.

    I gathered that the closing time was a ruse. If possible, they preferred to avoid serving Newton. After all, can’t you normally buy a drink up to closing time (following last call)?

    Why must Trivers moralize about it? I’m not moralizing either, but everyone ignores that the context suggests that Newton had no intention of robbing anyone (he wouldn’t even take the drink for free) and that the threat was made as part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist.

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    Why must Trivers moralize about it? I’m not moralizing either, but everyone ignores that the context suggests that Newton had no intention of robbing anyone (he wouldn’t even take the drink for free) and that the threat was made as part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist.

     

    He had the intention of at the very least scaring them into serving him, and if that's "part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist" then I don't know what isn't. I don't see why you would doubt that Newton would've been capable of robbing the place, considering he spent his life as a drug-addicted violent criminal.

    By the way, we're told that "knocking the place up" meant robbing everyone in the bar, and there were at least some blacks there. If Newton just wanted to rob whites I guess that Trivers would justify it as fighting racism. But I guess part of the nationalist struggle means that blacks and whites must be threatened so that Huey Newton gets to drink when he wants.
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  • Huey Newton aside – Robert Trivers is a major figure in science. The field of Sociobiology is a giant step in the field of Darwinian evolution.

    Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway.

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    "Out of respect, knowledgeable people, give those in his intellectual class great leeway."

    Uh,....no. That's not how life works.

    If a respected scholar, scientist, etc. held an opposite viewpoints from the political Left, and he were to espouse various opinions regarding say, David Duke, and held to views that are more consistent with Duke's ideology regarding race, and racial relations, etc., would this person be given slack and leeway in the MSM and/or the popular culture at large?

    Answer: No. He'd be lucky not to be indicted for a hate crime, especially if it was published in an autobiography. Witness the treatment that esteemed scientist James Watson received for his opinions. Was it anywhere near what this person is receiving? The answer is obvious.

    If one should be given a pass, based on his academic credentials then so too should all academics be given a pass, based on academic credentials/prowess. In the ideal world, this consistency shown to academics would certainly occur.

    Unfortunately, however, we do not live in the ideal world and must face the world head on as it really is.
    , @Jay
    Sociobiology was a step forward, but not a giant one. It seems important because it deals with phenomena that form our lives, but they are irrelevant or much less important in most species.

    Evolutionary biology still doesn't have a theory of whole-organism adaptation. When that is created, then the step forward in level of understanding will be gigantic. Until then we are left with the fatuous formulation: "Evolution is the change of gene frequencies."
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  • @Hepp

    So when I first read that so-called Black Panthers in Oakland were patrolling, and, if necessary, killing racist white police officers and appearing to get away with it I said, “Right on.” And I say it to this day. Some deserve the death penalty, others multiple years in prison. I remain convinced that the Panthers were largely on the right side of justice.

     

    What evil BS. The crime rate went up like 6 times in the 1960s, yet people stupidly believe that the problem is "racist cops." Tens of thousands have been killed thanks to this attitude, and entire cities destroyed. Yet this nonsense continues.

    Cut Travers some slack. He’s Jewish. It goes with the territory.

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  • @Clearpoint
    Wow. This was 40+ years ago and this guy is still high from the excitement of rolling with Hughie. Loved the bar at closing time story. To turn an insane, over the top, potentially homicidal altercation over nothing into a whimsical morality play about the alluring dangers of the trumped up misdemeanor to the unwary criminal was just amazing. Written while on a bad acid trip I can only assume.

    What struck me about the bar story is that the earlier stuff you could justify as racist cops and fighting back and unjust system and all that nonsense. But what’s the moral justification for threatening to rob a bar and everyone in it so that they serve you a drink? Pure joy in sadism and thuggery, without the most feeble attempt at a moral justification. That anecdote in particular caused me to lose the last shred of respect I had for Trivers.

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    I gathered that the closing time was a ruse. If possible, they preferred to avoid serving Newton. After all, can't you normally buy a drink up to closing time (following last call)?

    Why must Trivers moralize about it? I'm not moralizing either, but everyone ignores that the context suggests that Newton had no intention of robbing anyone (he wouldn't even take the drink for free) and that the threat was made as part of a racial power struggle, conceived as nationalist.
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  • @anonymous
    Not amusing. King of the nerds Trivers has a homoerotic fascination for Newton what with his gushing over his "strong arm muscles" and macho strut. Bartenders and waitresses are working people trying to earn a living. Threatening them is not very cute but it's ok if they're mere white people being threatened by a revolutionary 'star' such as the muscled crackhead Newton who doesn't seem to have ever actually held a job himself. That Newton killed some people and ruined people's lives doesn't seem to bother nerd Trivers; as long as Newton could spout some Franz Fanon all is well. Newton was inherently a criminal who was brighter than the average thug and so had better game, creating a radical persona that paid off and made him a well known public figure. Trivers hung on Newton's coattails for the ride and the excitement it would bring, a groupie putting himself into proximity with Newton and trying to get the spillover glow from him. Hanging on Newton because he's so smart and has such big muscles and is really, oh my, so tough and macho, he's just such a maaaan!!

    Finally someone said it. The picture looks as though he he’s pleased that Newton gave him his phone number for their first date. In this instance, Newton will be the man, of course.

    Honestly can’t imagine any black man, then or now, being that buggered head over heels a la exhibiting gushing homoerotic fanboy tendencies toward a well known nationally famous “studly/manly” white man. (e.g. Peyton Manning).

    Its quite pathetic that a grown up with an IQ probably in the top 3% of the nation would exhibit such immature tendencies. ‘He’s mine, fellas! He’s alllll mine!” Utter pathetic.

    One has to also wonder if Trivers’s fiancee left him for a “real” man and the professor is thinking ‘well, if you can’t beat them, join them.’

    Really quite pathetic.

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  • Wow. This was 40+ years ago and this guy is still high from the excitement of rolling with Hughie. Loved the bar at closing time story. To turn an insane, over the top, potentially homicidal altercation over nothing into a whimsical morality play about the alluring dangers of the trumped up misdemeanor to the unwary criminal was just amazing. Written while on a bad acid trip I can only assume.

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    What struck me about the bar story is that the earlier stuff you could justify as racist cops and fighting back and unjust system and all that nonsense. But what's the moral justification for threatening to rob a bar and everyone in it so that they serve you a drink? Pure joy in sadism and thuggery, without the most feeble attempt at a moral justification. That anecdote in particular caused me to lose the last shred of respect I had for Trivers.
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  • The author of this article should be tried, convicted and deported to the sub-Saharan nation of his choice. The obviously homoerotic fixation he had on this low life murderer is sickening. How does drivel like this even get published?

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  • Gotta appreciate the irony of posting this just after Trivers’ getting almost killed during a home invasion in Jamaica.

    Boomers are funny.

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  • @Hepp

    And since I was already widely associated with marijuana, which in turn had numerous redeeming qualities, Huey felt I should not be publicly associated with cocaine. Of course he was right. So I came up with some feeble argument about how if it was useful to others to know this fact (though I had no reason to suspect it would be) then the cost of self-revelation to me didn’t matter. Almost like Jesus volunteering to be tortured on the cross. To which he replied, “In thatcase, why don’t you lecture naked?” Newton two-step. Argument over.

     

    That's the best example from one of the 5 or 6 brightest minds you ever met? Sound like perhaps a 110-120 IQ, but mixed with enough confidence to overwhelm those looking for a chocolate messiah.

    Hepp, I read that, too, and scratched my head that Prof. Trivers would allow himself to publish this nonsense.

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