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    Until recently, East Asia shunned globalism. Economically advanced and yet ethnically homogeneous, the region seemed to show that modernity can co-exist with the traditional structures of family, kinship, ethny, and nation. We can be more than just individuals in a global marketplace. Yet East Asia is now catching up to the West. South Korea has...
  • It’s silly to fixate on the CERD. The CERD is just part and parcel of Koreans deciding they don’t have to take any crap. CERD comes with the ICCPR, which is your real problem.

    The Cheju massacre, US puppet ruler Syngman Rhee, US operational authority over the armed forces until 1949, the Northwest Youth League death squads, the Park Chung-hee coup, the US-owned National Youth League under famous US toady Bum Suk Lee, the Cherokee cables, Clinton golfing on the killing fields – the ICCPR puts the kibosh on all that.

    The Americanization Frost frets about is going to take care of itself once the ROK stops being a US colony terrorized by puppets. Already hot young Asians are attracted to a newly free country, as evinced by the quote from hilariously obvious repressed homosexual makemykimchi: “Vietnamese and Tagalog guys and girls yelling and screaming either in drunken stupor or just flirtatious exuberance.”

    You haven’t seen anything yet. Just wait till they reunify with the North.

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • I wonder why he thought Europeans came from Africa.
    Recent finds show we’ve been in Europe for millions of years. And there’s no Neanderthal DNA in Africa, essentially a different species down there.

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  • I’ve been fascinated by a puzzle of modern human evolution: the diverse palette of hair and eye colors that has developed in some populations (Frost, 2006; Frost 2008). Hair may be black, brown, flaxen, golden, or red, and eyes may be brown, blue, gray, hazel, or green. Both polymorphisms are largely confined to Europeans, especially...
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    My dad had curly hair and dark, he also had lots of freckles and certainly carried red hair but on his body was virtually hairless (maybe because of red hair genes) so had dark curly hair but fair skin blue eyes and carried red hair. I have red baldness and hairy men live mainly around mediterranean. Now its possible to have red hair men who are very hairy and blond hair men depending on genes. Its possible hairy ancestors lived somewhere in Europe and genes have passed to other groups. Some dark hair men have no body hair at all. It might be due to environment maybe those living by coastal areas were more hairy but certainly its similar to whats happened in hair and eye colour so is bsldness and even within areas maybe all these genes are present?

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    What I would disagree on things are only explained by mass movements. Hunter gatherers had complex social network. In reality you only have to have a mate from a neighbouring population for a gene to spread so if a female with blond and blue eyes mixed with a darker haured population a gene or set of genes could spread elsewhere rather than a huge movement which surely would completely change a population. Not saying hunters didnt move but they could move in a territory and gradually pick up genes

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    I totally agree with you. I would like to add in Europe especially in the north meat was the few sources of food unlike elsewhere in the world so this can affect skin tone. I read of a European hunter gatherer with blue eyes yet darker skin. Now Inuits have darker skin despite living in the arctic but most is from fish diet. Once agriculture entered diet changed to dairy and other products this must have had a impact on biology. Most of the world is lactose intolerant. This requires certain genes. Genes can be passed on as there is an advantage to them for a certain set of circumstances.

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  • The Slave Market, painting (c. 1884) by Jean-Léon Gérôme (source) Can Europeans, and European women in particular, become objects of trade? The idea seems laughable, since the term ‘slave trade’ almost always brings Africans to mind. Yet there was a time not so long ago when Europe exported slaves on a large scale. Between 1500...
  • According to the Byzantine Emperor Constantin P (Xth cent AD) the name of the Serbians come from “servula” to be a slave.

    Also, the first to enslave the Slaves were the Romans:

    http://historum.com/ancient-history/62034-goths-vandals-really-germans.html

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  • This week, I will turn to the third charge in the indictment against the First World War: the rise of fascism. What was fascism? The word itself is problematic. For many, especially those of a Marxist bent, it was an attempt to divert working people from the real cause of their problems. For other, it...
  • There are many ways to construct a typology but the notion that Communism wants to speed up the liberation of the individual lacks verisimilitude. Any philosophy that puts the collectivity first must ask – or order – individuals to sacrifice liberties and options for the greater good.

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  • Good article.

    So in summary: Slavic originates from Slava/Slowo
    or from Slave?

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  • A new arrival (painting by Giuilo Rosati - source). The privilege of white skin … Earlier this year, fashion model Cameron Russell condemned the unbearable whiteness of her industry: […] I won a genetic lottery, and I am a recipient of a legacy. For the past few centuries, we have defined beauty not just as...
  • The white female wasn’t sought out or prized for their pale beauty, or because they were perceived as being “more” beautiful simply because they were white. No. They were picked out as sex slaves because they were perceived as more sexually available or permissible because they were free to walk around unaccompanied and uncovered. This is stereotype from the prophet’s era which never lost currency.

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  • The white female wasn’t sought out or prized for their pale beauty, or because they were perceived as being “more” beautiful simply because they were white. No. They were picked out as sex slaves because they were perceived as more sexually available or permissible because they were free to walk around unaccompanied and uncovered.

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  • Human variation in cranial capacity. Black, 1,450 cc and over; checkerboard, 1,400-49 cc; crosshatching, 1,350-99 cc; horizontal striping, 1,300-49 cc; diagonal striping, 1,250-99 cc; dots, 1,200-49 cc; white areas, under 1,200 cc (Beals et al., 1984) So Stephen Jay Gould was wrong, and Samuel George Morton was right. Brain size does vary among human populations....
  • @Anonymous
    Insightful said:

    I agree with UncleTomRuckusInGoodWhiteWorld. I've been to Europe and although it is no walk in the park I think it has a pleasant climate overall, perhaps one of the most pleasant climates in the world. Europe does not have winters of Minnesota or upstate New York with sub-zero temperatures and LOTS of snow. There is abundant rainfall as well. I actually think sub-saharan Africa is harsher. Even Australia and China have more extreme climate than Europe.


    So, what is it, in your opinion, that prevented sub-Saharan Africans and Aboriginal Australians from creating the sort of civilizations that the Chinese and the Europeans developed and from creating complex technical advances?

    Was it simply white racism?

    Note also that the claims are not about current conditions in northern Europe and northern Asia, but rather about the effect that the last glacial had on those groups of humans that lived in the various refugia near the shields.

    What prevented North Europeans from developing the civilisations the Chinese, Middle East, North Indians, Central Asians and South Europeans had thousands of years earlier?

    The actual course of human history from 8000BC to 0AD contradicts the entire latitude based intelligence theory. Civilisation, agriculture, writing emerged from the Middle East & spread across Asia, North Africa & Southern Europe.

    North Europe gained agriculture, written language and animal domestication thousands of years after they were commonplace at other latitudes.

    Was it Asian racism holding the white man down?

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  • African Americans sleep on average almost an hour less than do Euro Americans. The two groups have mean sleep times of 6.05 hours and 6.85 hours. This finding has recently been discussed by Brian Resnick in National Journal and by our Steve Sailer. Researchers reject a genetic explanation: "There is a consensus that innate biological...
  • In the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack—or rather mass execution—the typical reaction seems to be that the killers were "madmen" and "extremists." The brother of the slain policeman, himself Muslim, protested: "My brother was Muslim. He was shot down by false Muslims. (...) Islam is really a religion of peace, of love. We had...
  • I’ve read this article and I’ve remembered what happened in my province, Almería, in Spain, 17 years ago. In short, two Arabs killed three people in two weeks. As a result, local population started to riot, attacking immigrants, their shops and houses. Of course, all the media called them “racist” and “xenophobic”. When Arabs do the same in France, Sweden or anywhere else in Europe it is the europeans’ fault because of racism, xenophobia, unemployment, lack of opportunities and blah, blah… What do you think about it? Here you have the links of a video (in Spanish) and the article

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/635092.stm

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  • @Peter Frost
    Ben,

    This topic interests me because it shows that the mental association between female beauty and fair skin (and more broadly the European phenotype) is not a side effect of European domination. The "traite des Blanches" took place at a time when Europeans were weaklings on the world scene.

    Keep in mind that a lot of what I write on this blog is ultimately for my own use, i.e., its raw material for future articles.

    Final note: In the future, please don't translate "nègres" by "niggers". The two words aren't really equivalent. "La traite des Nègres" is "the black slave trade" in Engilsh.

    “The two words aren’t really equivalent.”

    Actually, they are, since both of them are corrupted pronunciations for the Latin niger, or black. However, it has been to the great advantage of certain sects of the post-modern religion to think one of them is somehow pejorative, rather than descriptive of color.

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  • Figurines of Nubian archers (from Egypt) The Roman conquest of Britain brought not only cultural change but also profound ethnic change, i.e., an influx of soldiers, officials, and traders from elsewhere. Until recently, historians placed this influx mainly in the first century of Roman rule. As the native British became Romanized, they would have increasingly...
  • That’s a whole bunch of polytically correct Crap , No black african were in Roman legions or either got Roman citizenry , lets stop this Crap revisionism in hope to justify an unhealty racial mixup!

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  • A new arrival (painting by Giuilo Rosati - source). The privilege of white skin … Earlier this year, fashion model Cameron Russell condemned the unbearable whiteness of her industry: […] I won a genetic lottery, and I am a recipient of a legacy. For the past few centuries, we have defined beauty not just as...
  • “The Mediterranean world of the Greco-Roman period was dominated by people who themselves were fair-skinned or relatively so. ”

    No really. The Greco -Roman world was dominated by the swarthy, olive-skinned type. The fair type was a minority trait.

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  • Venus of Mal’ta, a figurine from a site in eastern Siberia (source). She comes from a population that was related to modern Europeans and Amerindians but not to modern native Siberians. The Mal’ta Siberians died out at the height of the last ice age and were replaced by people spreading north from East Asia and...
  • @Ben10
    Interesting.
    So the Mal'tas entered North America and became Native Amerindians in the East, and Europeans in the West. 2 questions:
    1)Any idea why Native amerindians never developed the same set of mutations for hair and skin color than their European cousins?

    2)The Mal'tas entered North America around 17000 years ago or before, be waited until 14000 years ago, to spread south, as the Clovis culture. What were they waiting for?

    They didn’t wait till the supposed Ice Free Corridor opened up. New evidence proves that the IFC wasn’t viable until after 13,000-12,500 years, and ancient Native American remains in Oregon at 14,600 bc, and a village site at the tip of South America at the same time frame, puts Native Americans inside the Americas before the IFC opened up, and proves that the Americas were peopled by another way. Probably by boat thru the Pacific Coastline. There are older sites littered through out the Americas, so Native Americans could have been in Americas as early as 40,000 years ago, just by linguistics alone puts them in Americas 40,000 years ago.

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  • It has long been known that children are likelier to be abused, neglected, or murdered by stepparents than by birth parents. This kind of genetic discrimination seems consistent with kin selection theory: parents are expected to care more for children who share kinship with them, as opposed to a purely legal and social relationship (Daly...
  • @Anonymous
    A bit on another topic, but regarding the overrepresentation of adoptees in the juvenile justice system, psychiatric treatment centres, do you feel that this is due to the supposed "genealogical bewilderment" theory (that adoptees are psychologically traumatized by not being raised by their birth parents) or to genetic and prenatal factors? I strongly suspect it's the second (genetic factors), but I like to know others' opinions and explanations.

    I strongly suspect genetic (and prenatal) factors are behind the overrepresentation of adoptees in the juvenile justice and psychiatric system. One other powerful argument against the “genealogical bewilderment” theory is that despite their problems, adoptees generally do better than children raised by single and/or teenage mothers.

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  • Broken Hill skull from Zambia, dated to 110,000 BP. It is often identified as a Homo sapiens, largely because it is so recent. We now have evidence that very archaic hominins inhabited central and southern Africa at least 35,000 years ago. The past year has brought us a new model of human evolution. It’s a...
  • Did Homo erectus linger in parts of Africa until as late as 35,000 years ago?

    These findings simply do not imply in this conclusion. The archaic morphology of Iwo Eleru itself is already in the early sapiens range, Stringer compared it to Laetoli 18.

    Sharing alleles with ancient diverged populations (or even species) simply doesn’t imply in recent episodes of admixture. Several lineages of alleles exist in a single population; that’s just “polymorphism”. And a species can have deeply divergent polymorphisms shared heterogeneusly along its populations (some humans having chimpanzee alleles, others having orangutan alleles, others having gorilla alleles – the deepest divergence there is about 13 million years, 130 million years of Broken Hill/rhodesiensis is the blink of an eye), with no need to posit cryptozoological theories or viable bestiality.

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  • This is one of several findings with a common theme: the farther back in time we go, the less familiar people look. And we don't have to go very far. This fact came up in a column I wrote about the Americas. If we turn back the clock, Amerindians look more and more European, yet...
  • @Curious
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbayBEbIEwc

    This is a link to an old Science Channel Special that claims the DNA was of pre Colombian European origin. The special is a bit old so maybe they have done more accurate testing as of late. The Wikipedia account did list that the human remains had haplogroup X which I understand has been hypothesized to be of west Eurasian and possibly Iberian origin as it virtually does not exist in Siberia or East Asia.

    I believe Dr. Joseph Lorenz of the Coriell institute made the determination the DNA was of European origin.

    That YouTube video took lorenz comments out of context. He said the samples were contaminated with The scientists European DNA. Because they could not replicate those same results. Also, the skulls were Sinodont and and within the variability of Native American morphology.

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  • Expansion of modern humans out of Africa and within Africa. Mellars (2006). When we discuss the origins of modern humans, the term ‘Out of Africa’ is a bit misleading. Our common ancestors came not from Africa as a whole but from a relatively small area somewhere in East Africa. Beginning around 80,000 years ago, this...
  • @lesigh
    Seriously? I get that this is a white supremacist site where people are so backwards-thinking that they probably think males are smarter than females because of the larger brains on average, but you couldn't even bother to find out that neural connectivity and number of cortical folds matter more than size?

    There's no devolution. Neanderthals had larger brains, yes, but intraspecies brain size comparisons are meaningless unless they are of a very large value (meaning that severe retardation of development has occurred). Size in specific regions can be important, but in those regions (frontal lobe), Neanderthals were inferior. They also had fewer cortical folds, meaning less white matter and connectivity, and smoother but larger brains are less intelligent.

    Groups that exclusively interbred died off, there is no human on this planet that isn’t a hybrid from modern human species mixing with archaic humans species in a pattern that resembles a family tree and and all humans carry genetic mutations from archaic human species that existed well before any modern humans that have been found to have emerged from ethiopia in africa. A mutation in a west african gene is unique as it shows a mutation tied to archaic human species existing well beyond a million years ago.

    The hard pill for you to swallow is that “black people” or “africans” aren’t the first human species to inhabit the earth, black african’s history is just like white european peoples history…..the same just a tiny bit different and older, but not as original as so much misplaced pride would indicate. The oldest skull excavated in Bethlehem is that of a hybrid genetic mixture of modern and archaic humans.

    I didn’t write this to beef with you or correct you, just some food for thought. There is no absolute truth that anyone can crystallize into simple facts, there is only the layers of truth leading to the highest available truth any individual can perceive based on his/her knowledge and intellect at a given point in his/her mental development. Bottom line…..we are all continuously learning and developing from birth to death, and when we stop at some artificial or premature maximum we stop growing and kill off any future of evolutionary development.

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  • There has been much talk here about Chanda Chisala's article "The IQ gap is no longer a black and white issue." Much of the article focuses on the Igbo (known also as Ibo), a people who live in the Niger Delta and "are well known to be high academic achievers within Nigeria." In the United...
  • @Ginger Bread Man
    It seems like some Igbos want to leave Nigeria and form their own country. Also, they view their conationals with disdain: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/12/biafra-surprises-from-the-north/

    “It seems like some Igbos want to leave Nigeria and form their own country…”

    Ya think? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

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  • Expansion of modern humans out of Africa and within Africa. Mellars (2006). When we discuss the origins of modern humans, the term ‘Out of Africa’ is a bit misleading. Our common ancestors came not from Africa as a whole but from a relatively small area somewhere in East Africa. Beginning around 80,000 years ago, this...
  • I will probably irritate somebody but whatever. Madame Blavatsky wrote of what were referred to as root races and their sub-races(genetic variants), one root race finally receding as another emerged but with a good period of overlap that allowed interaction and which passed DNA for the survival of the newer root race . She learned much of her knowledge of this in India and noted “race” was not meant as it is currently understood and that current humans are all members of the same root race, sprung from a single source. I read a lot on the subject and it doesn’t seem to be such a secret, just a secret hiding in plain sight but which one(self inclined individuals) must take the initiative to look around to see what there really is on the subject from various sources and find some common threads. This seems consistent with nature. If you look backwards its hard to see, look at is a tree in which a main upward reaching branch which represents humans evolution to this point and the trunk our beginning. As the main branch first splits, only one will continue on as the main branch…and our main branch has survived by mixing DNA to pass on mutation beneficial to future survival of humans and isolation and inbreeding are the branches which dead end along the way. Kinda gives meaning to the biblical passages about cutting off the dead branch and casting it into the fire or being cut off from the tree of life. huh?
    I saw a documentary using archaeology and geneticists confirming that humans today are hybrids of as of yet an unknown number of mixtures of human species over millions and perhaps hundreds of millions of years.

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  • Henry Harpending and I have written a paper on the historical decline of personal violence in European societies. It has just been published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology. I wrote the following press release: While war has always been with us, personal violence has been declining in Western societies over the last millennium. Is this...
  • He certainly took your points very seriously because he did posts on them . You behaved the same as you did back then as a commenter, but something went very wrong with the discussion on this post and I can’t help thinking was to do with whose site it is.

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  • Crystal Gayle, American country music singer (source). In humans of Eurasian origin, head hair can grow down to the mid-back and even farther. Long silky hair must have evolved relatively late, certainly no earlier than the last 50,000 years. All of us are born pale, and this infant pallor is striking in otherwise dark-skinned families....
  • @Sean
    Body hair is not likely to be due to sexual selection of women. Europeans have less body hair than other peoples. North Europeans have less body hair than Southern Europeans. (See here).

    Short Anagen Syndrome is not being able to grow long scalp hair. Blonde children tend to get it; their hair becomes a good length at puberty.

    Europeans have more scalp hair density, and blond(e)s have the most of all with 20% more scalp hairs per centimetre. (See here).

    To look more feminine is to look “white.”

    Straight hair is not different from common looking beast hair (dogs e.g afghan dogs). No life to it just straight that is.

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  • Until recently, East Asia shunned globalism. Economically advanced and yet ethnically homogeneous, the region seemed to show that modernity can co-exist with the traditional structures of family, kinship, ethny, and nation. We can be more than just individuals in a global marketplace. Yet East Asia is now catching up to the West. South Korea has...
  • […] and multiculturalism —a radical departure from the mono-ethnic face it once had”—The Changing Face of Gangnam, UNZ.org, February 14, 2016. Gangnam is an exclusive district in the capital city of […]

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  • @Anonymous
    It sounds like people are finally starting to care more about science then being politically correct. Yes, African's seem to be the original species on earth, that evolved for millions of years, and are still connected to the primates. Is there much variation or evolution from them though? the evolutionary tree seems "on shaky ground" based on a cave they found with 5 homo erectus skeletons with a lot of variety. Found seperately, they all would have been called different species. If we call all in the homo line homo erectus, other then the big brained Neanderthal (brain size being highly connected to IQ) One might say that any before Neanderthal were homo erectus for millians of years. (Not called humans.) So any homo erectus who didn't interbreed with the Neanderthal, would not make cro magnon, called modern man. Those in the Canary Islands are thought to represent pure cro Magnon stock, and they are an obvious mix of white and black. Thus,it fits that is two species mixing started a very primitive modern man like them, that the Neanderthal would be the original modern man, and like the brain size shows, we have de-evolved by interbreeding. . .it is a deep and controversial theory, but I would love some descussion on it. Check out a very indepth and connected theory on the Neanderthal here, http://passionateproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/all-about-hybrid-neanderthal-named-adam.html and one on the homo erectus here. http://passionateproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/all-about-africans-original-earthly.html

    Seriously? I get that this is a white supremacist site where people are so backwards-thinking that they probably think males are smarter than females because of the larger brains on average, but you couldn’t even bother to find out that neural connectivity and number of cortical folds matter more than size?

    There’s no devolution. Neanderthals had larger brains, yes, but intraspecies brain size comparisons are meaningless unless they are of a very large value (meaning that severe retardation of development has occurred). Size in specific regions can be important, but in those regions (frontal lobe), Neanderthals were inferior. They also had fewer cortical folds, meaning less white matter and connectivity, and smoother but larger brains are less intelligent.

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    Groups that exclusively interbred died off, there is no human on this planet that isn't a hybrid from modern human species mixing with archaic humans species in a pattern that resembles a family tree and and all humans carry genetic mutations from archaic human species that existed well before any modern humans that have been found to have emerged from ethiopia in africa. A mutation in a west african gene is unique as it shows a mutation tied to archaic human species existing well beyond a million years ago.

    The hard pill for you to swallow is that "black people" or "africans" aren't the first human species to inhabit the earth, black african's history is just like white european peoples history.....the same just a tiny bit different and older, but not as original as so much misplaced pride would indicate. The oldest skull excavated in Bethlehem is that of a hybrid genetic mixture of modern and archaic humans.

    I didn't write this to beef with you or correct you, just some food for thought. There is no absolute truth that anyone can crystallize into simple facts, there is only the layers of truth leading to the highest available truth any individual can perceive based on his/her knowledge and intellect at a given point in his/her mental development. Bottom line.....we are all continuously learning and developing from birth to death, and when we stop at some artificial or premature maximum we stop growing and kill off any future of evolutionary development.
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  • Until recently, East Asia shunned globalism. Economically advanced and yet ethnically homogeneous, the region seemed to show that modernity can co-exist with the traditional structures of family, kinship, ethny, and nation. We can be more than just individuals in a global marketplace. Yet East Asia is now catching up to the West. South Korea has...
  • @Priss Factor
    "And an almost-Chinee province, like Tibet. And would have become one if Japan hadn’t wrested it from China in 1895. Please get off your high horse. The extinction of the Korean language would have had little more significance than the extinction of any of the other languages that once existed in the ancient kingdoms that now comprise China today. The language you speak today is merely the language of your most recent conqueror."

    Fate of Tibet is a sad one. It is being swallowed up by Han Chinese. Of course, Chinese invoke 'multi-culturalism' as a form of neo-imperialism. They claim to 'celebrate diversity' and inundate Tibet with massive Han-Chinese immigration/migration. I suppose there are benefits to the Tibetans in terms of economics and development. But it seems Tibet will be lost forever due to demographic and economic domination of the Chinese. This is the dark side of 'multi-culturalism'. It doesn't work out evenly. If Tibetans made up 90% of China in demographics and territory and if Han Chinese made up only 2 million out of 1.3 billion people, then it's likely that Tibetans would be swallowing up the Chinese. But because there are many more Chinese than Tibetans, 'multi-culturalism' in China means Chinese taking over Tibetans. Chinese culture and identity will remain, but Tibetan identity is iffy for the future. If you mix a gallon of milk with a spoonful of orange juice, it will not be half milk and half orange juice. It will overwhelmingly be milk.
    This is why Chinese are for multi-culturalism in China. It favors Han Chinese domination over smaller groups in the NW and SW territories that were conquered by the Han Chinese. It's why Russians are for multiculturalism. It can be invoked to claim Russian domination over Siberia where non-Russians live.

    But there's one crucial difference between Tibet and Korea. Though racially and culturally, the Koreans are closer to the Chinese than the Chinese are to Tibetans, Korea has long been recognized as an independent state by China. As was Vietnam by China despite all the troubles between them.
    The understanding was that Korea should recognize the Chinese Empire as the Middle Kingdom, and in turn, China would recognize the Kingdom of Korea as a tributary state with its independent political, social, cultural, and economic sovereignty. For most of Chinese history, China didn't see Korea as part of China, and Koreans maintained their independence.

    The war in 1895 with Japan wasn't about ownership but influence over Korea. Likewise, China entered the Korean War for influence, not ownership. US did too, in Korea and Vietnam. US wasn't trying to take national possession of Korea and Vietnam--as they did with Hawaii--but merely trying to defend their geopolitical influence there.
    Initially, Japan was vying for influence too, but their imperial designs eventually decided to annex Korea and use it as a launching pad for the conquest of northern China, especially Manchuria.

    Chinese didn't see Korea as a part of China. As Tibetans and Muslims in the Northwest provinces were low in population and stretched across vast territories, Chinese felt they should own those lands and govern those relatively backward peoples. But Chinese regarded Koreans(and Vietnamese)as people of reasonably advanced civilizations in densely populated kingdoms who had a stake in the governance of their own kingdoms/nations.

    Even when China bailed out Korea in the Japanese invasion of the late 16th century, it didn't try to take ownership of Korea.

    Chiang Kai-Shek of KMT never regarded Korea as part of China. He wanted Manchuria and Taiwan back from the Japanese, but he never thought to regain Korea from Japan.
    And when Mao came to power, he pressed Stalin for Mongolia but was perfectly content with Korea as an independent state. As Stalin had installed a puppet regime in Mongolia, Mao had to swallow his pride and accept Mongolia as an 'independent state' and Soviet satellite. Had it not been for the Soviet entry into North Asia in the final stages of WWII, Mongolia would likely have been a part of China. But Chinese never thought to include Korea as part of China. Mongolia was a vast territory back then with a population of 1 million. China could have easily ruled over them. But as China always found out with the Vietnamese, it's much tougher to rule over a more advanced people in a densely populated nation.

    As for the Korean language, it doesn't mean anything to the world or to the Chinese. But I assume it means everything to the Koreans themselves. Every language is distinct, and as the Korean language has been the language of Koreans for 1000s of yrs, why should Koreans not preserve it?
    If Jews brought back Hebrew in Israel after it nearly died out--and it's certainly culturally and historically significant to Jews--, why shouldn't Koreans not carry on with Korean? Isn't it the duty of any people to preserve their identity, history, culture, and language?

    After all, even after 100os of years and even after the Ottoman occupation, Greeks still speak Greek. Well, good for them.
    A people should preserve their language and culture because such things mean everything to themselves. Never mind what such things might mean to the world. I don't know much about Armenian culture and language, but I hope Armenians do everything to preserve them.
    The difference between animals and humans is animals have no history, no memory(prior to their own existence), no culture, and no language. But humans do have memory, culture, identity, and language. True, globalist pop-culture tries to reduce everyone to a hedonistic beast addicted to junk culture, porn, amnesia, and fashions, but fads and trends are not long-lasting. What really lasts is race, culture, and historical memory.
    And I don't see why Koreans shouldn't preserve what they have and indeed had for possibly over 200o yrs in that corner of the world.

    Even if all cultures are artificial, some cultures have a longer history and pedigree than others. If a culture is primitive and without historical memory--except for vague oral culture--, it is understandably difficult to preserve in the face of modernity. But some cultures are old and ancient and they've developed a long historical memory and identity.

    Consider the Irish. True, the British forced English on the Irish and Gaelic became a relic. Even so, Irish identity remained and the Irish pressed for independence and got it after many centuries.
    The Vietnamese lived under French imperialism for over a century, but they too struggled to preserve and defend what is unique to their nation and culture.

    So, its' not true that a people simply submit to their conquerors. Chinese and Russians were conquered by the Mongols, but they eventually re-emerged as Russians with Russian identity/culture and Chinese with Chinese identity/culture. Spain was under Moorish occupation for a long spell, but it re-emerged as a Christian European nation.

    A proud people, even under conquest, maintain their identity and culture, and they re-emerge to take control of their own destiny. Jews had been conquered by all sorts of people, but they outlasted them all. Should they have simply surrendered to their conquerors and become other groups or peoples? Well, if that's what they'd wanted, I guess that's what would have happened, and the Jewish people and culture would have been lost to history. But Jews maintained their identity and culture, and so they are still around. Foolish? Wise? Who's to say, but I'll bet Jews are glad that they had survived as a people and a culture.

    Btw, arguing that a nation should maintain its culture is not being on a high horse. High horse would be telling everyone to get with the globalist program.

    Well said! Every nation and its people should have the right of self-determination.

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  • @Anon

    But ‘Korean’ isn’t just some political-social construct imposed by foreign power. It is organic, historical, racial, and cultural.
     
    And an almost-Chinee province, like Tibet. And would have become one if Japan hadn't wrested it from China in 1895. Please get off your high horse. The extinction of the Korean language would have had little more significance than the extinction of any of the other languages that once existed in the ancient kingdoms that now comprise China today. The language you speak today is merely the language of your most recent conqueror. Unless you are personally related to the royals, there's no need to get all het up about that language, or their cultural baggage, especially considering they might, in antiquity, have slaughtered some of your distant relatives while massacring their way to the top. Funny how rabid nationalists like to gloss over that bit. Want to be a traditionalist? Start keeping score all the way back.

    And an almost-Chinee [sic] province, like Tibet. And would have become one if Japan hadn’t wrested it from China in 1895.

    This is just wrong. Korea for most of its feudal history was a suzerainty of China’s, but it was always internally autonomous and its population endogamous. The Chinese didn’t change that, the Mongols didn’t change that, the Jurchens didn’t change that, the Japanese didn’t change that. But unfortunately it would appear, the Koreans themselves are now wilfully destroying their greatest source of strength.

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  • What did the Neanderthals look like? Source Hard to tell, since we know so little about their soft tissues. But they probably had fur. Were the Neanderthals as furry as bears? The question was raised by one of my readers, and I’ll try to reply at length in this post. There are three lines of...
  • @Anonymous
    Could you connect the dots more explicitly for human body lice and neanderthal fur? I don't follow your argument.

    Body lice appeared with the use of clothing.

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  • @Sean
    Persistence hunting


    Humans aren't fast but they can run down most animals, exercise leads to sweating and if Neanderthals had a coat of the fine hairs called 'fur', in freezing conditions running would cause sweating. Sweating in sub zero temperatures is dangerous as the sweat can freeze. I believe this was once a problem for anyone seriously exerting themselves in extreme cold while wearing insulated clothing (arctic clothing used to use a lot of fur insulation).

    Furry Neanderthals would not be able to use a strategy of running down game in sub zero conditions because they'd have become soaked in sweat; once they stopped running the sweat would freeze.

    I'll speculate that Neanderthals' fur and lack of brainpower restricted them to a pack ambush strategy (ie collectively lurking around woodland game trails; popping up to surround the prey; then using thrusting spears to kill the prey as it tried to break through the cordon).

    Vieth argues that humans are well adapted to ingestion of vitamin D in large amounts because the process of grooming by furry human ancestors involved ingestion of skin oils rich in vitamin D!

    I wonder if Neanderthals might have sweated through their tongues or otherwise than skin? Other furry animals do ‘sweat’, but not exactly like humans.

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  • Syngman Rhee in 1905 and later South Korea’s first president (1948-1960). Though born into a rural family of modest means, he was of yangban and even royal lineage (source). Why is mean IQ higher in East Asia than elsewhere? Ron Unz (2013) sees the key cause in a scarcity of land and women that continually...
  • […] individuals had more surviving offspring in Europe and in Northeast Asia (see also Peter Frost Does the Clark-Unz model apply to Japan and Korea?). Over time, this led to the evolution of of increased average IQ in these areas, leading to their […]

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  • Rice paddies, China, circa 1917-1923 (source). To grow rice, you must cooperate with neighbors for irrigation and labor. Today, even with the shift to a post-agricultural society, Chinese from rice-farming areas display less individualism and more interdependence than Chinese from wheat-farming areas. Is this evidence of gene-culture co-evolution? Human populations differ in genetic variants that...
  • […] Rice farming and gene-culture co-evolution – The Unz Review (weight: 4) […]

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  • Turning to race, we must begin with the fraught question of whether it even exists, or whether it is instead a social construct. The Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin originated the idea of race as a social construct in 1972, arguing that the genetic differences across races were so trivial that no scientist working exclusively with...
  • […] claim is true in a circumscribed sense, but is largely irrelevant to the question of whether population group differences are biologically…. As pointed out by Jeffry B. Mitton and A.W.F. Edwards, the original finding that genetic […]

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  • Chanda Chisala has written another piece on IQ and African immigrants to the UK: The correct term is not "regression to the mean." It's "non-inheritance of acquired characteristics." In other words, each person has a single genotype and a range of possible phenotypes. A culture can push its members to either limit of this range,...
  • […] all people or sub-groups within a “race” are identical. As Peter Frost wrote, “No, blacks aren’t all alike. Who said they are?” There are smart black people and dumb black people. Hard-working whites and lazy whites. […]

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • Tribalism (Middle East) —> Universalism (Islam)

    I don’t get the same universalistic impression from Islam, that I do from, say, Christianity. Islam’s universalism seems more like a pose.

    I don’t mind JayMan linking to his blog.

    But be careful, JM; I don’t think you can censor comments to someone else’s blog.

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  • Rest in peace, Henry.

    ***

    Is SPLC still a heavily Jewish organization? Or, have they embraced diversity, in the years I’ve been ignoring them?

    (perhaps to show that Henry was obsessed with black people?)

    Perhaps to show that SPLC is obsessed with Black people?

    He was irreplaceable not so much because he knew more but because he was unafraid to say and act on what he knew. I will miss him.

    Well said. Bravery, curiousity, honesty, and forthrightness are rarer and more precious than brilliant intellects.

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  • Who were the first Europeans? We now have a better idea, thanks to a new paper about DNA from a man who lived some 38,700 to 36,200 years ago. His remains were found at Kostenki, a well-known Upper Paleolithic site in central European Russia (Seguin-Orlando et al., 2014). Kostenki Man tells us several things about...
  • Does anyone know why he looks more Negroid than Khoisan? My impression was that negroid features were a much later development in West Africa.

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  • A new arrival (painting by Giuilo Rosati - source). The privilege of white skin … Earlier this year, fashion model Cameron Russell condemned the unbearable whiteness of her industry: […] I won a genetic lottery, and I am a recipient of a legacy. For the past few centuries, we have defined beauty not just as...
  • Human variation in cranial capacity. Black, 1,450 cc and over; checkerboard, 1,400-49 cc; crosshatching, 1,350-99 cc; horizontal striping, 1,300-49 cc; diagonal striping, 1,250-99 cc; dots, 1,200-49 cc; white areas, under 1,200 cc (Beals et al., 1984) So Stephen Jay Gould was wrong, and Samuel George Morton was right. Brain size does vary among human populations....
  • It is often assumed that black Africans, out of all human populations, most closely resemble our common ancestral state. After all, is not Africa the cradle of humanity? And did not modern humans spread ‘out of Africa’ some 50,000 or so years ago? Indeed, we are all offspring of Africa. What is less true is...
  • @Anonymous
    There's no need to play the race card. Mr. Frost's argument is sound, and perfectly in synch with all the available mainstream scientific data on Black Africans. Blacks all really do originate from a relatively small West African and possibly pygmy population within the last 20,000 years. The peoples of the Horn of Africa were already in East Africa long before blacks first arrived there in the Bantu and Nilotic expansions. They therefore do not, racially-speaking, share the same origin as blacks. Ancient Horn Africans also did use to practice agriculture. In his "Clines and Clusters" paper, the anthropologist Loring Brace makes this clear by pointing out that Horn Africans have a considerably smaller tooth size than blacks -- a fact already observed in other studies e.g. Hanihara et al. 2005. Horn Africans cluster with Eurasians in this respect (and in many others too). Brace continues that "evidently the ancestors of the Somalis have long been associated with food preparation practices that reduced the selective force intensity maintaining tooth size. This is consistent with the possibility that the Ethiopian highlands were the locale of one of the ancient and semi-independent centers of plant domestication." Brace's conclusion is also consistent with climactic data which show that the Horn of Africa used to be, as recently as 5,500 years ago, a fully fertile area with arable land, plants, lakes, etc. and not the semi-desert it largely is now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/sep/16/highereducation.climatechange

    “The peoples of the Horn of Africa were already in East Africa long before blacks first arrived there in the Bantu and Nilotic expansions. They therefore do not, racially-speaking, share the same origin as blacks”

    Actually both tropical west africans and horner africans both fall under the E cluster (EP2)

    E-P2 is likely to have originated in the highlands of East Africa’s Ethiopia, as this is the place with the high frequency of ancestral subclades of this haplogroup. E-P2 is the ancestor of the majority of E subclade lineages existing today. It has diverged into two subclades: E-V38 and E-M215 approximately 24-27,000 years ago.

    Trombetta et al. 2011, further confirmed the previously suggested place of origin of this haplogroup by stating:

    The new topology here reported has important implications as to the origins of the haplogroup E-P2. Using the principle of the phylogeographic parsimony, the resolution of the E-M215 trifurcation in favor of a common ancestor of E-M2 and E-M329 strongly supports the hypothesis that haplogroup E-P2 originated in eastern Africa, as previously suggested, and that chromosomes E-M2, so frequently observed in sub-Saharan Africa, trace their descent to a common ancestor present in eastern Africa

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  • Henry Harpending and I have written a paper on the historical decline of personal violence in European societies. It has just been published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology. I wrote the following press release: While war has always been with us, personal violence has been declining in Western societies over the last millennium. Is this...
  • […] innovation in Christianity was not whether defectors get punished, but who punishes them. Defectors very much were punished during Christendom’s heyday. If the administration itself should eventually qualm to punish […]

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • Helga Vierich [AKA "Helga Vierch"] says:
    @Art
    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members. Cold weather requires both cooperation and individual intellectual prowess. Where as in traditional Africa emotional individualism and physical prowess succeed.

    Questions:

    Do most all humans have an inherent full complement of emotions both for cooperation and for individualism at birth.

    And Africa is changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?

    “Africa” is pictured by you was pure place with one people who are just now ‘ changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?” – the level of ignorance is very sad. Educate yourself: for starters, check out the following article in the Business Insider: “Here’s what it was like to be Mansa Musa, thought to be the richest person in history” written by Kathleen Elkins, Feb. 14, 2016.

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  • The Slave Market, painting (c. 1884) by Jean-Léon Gérôme (source) Can Europeans, and European women in particular, become objects of trade? The idea seems laughable, since the term ‘slave trade’ almost always brings Africans to mind. Yet there was a time not so long ago when Europe exported slaves on a large scale. Between 1500...
  • […] Ref;  http://www.unz.com/pfrost/from-slavs-to-slaves/ […]

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  • What sort of ideas will guide our elites twenty years from now? You can find out by observing university students, especially those in the humanities and social sciences. One popular idea is that race doesn't exist, except as a social construct. Its proponents include Eula Biss, a contributor to the New York Times Magazine: The...
  • […] then, courtesy of the Unz Review, are two good items on Lewontin’s Fallacy, from Peter Frost and Razib […]

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • forgive me if i have got this wrong. but didn’t the late scientist, stephen jay gould, propose an evolutionary process he called ‘punctuated equilibrium’, which means that evolution – not just human evolution – undergoes periods of rapid activity?
    mr. harpending’s proposal makes perfect sense to me.
    it seems unlikely that evolution proceeds at a steady, clockwork pace. more probable, is an uneven, herky-jerky, phenomenon induced by multiple or singular events.
    cultures adapt to people and people adapt to cultures. to me, the dynamic nature of this system promotes rapid change. and that change can reasonably be expected to accelerate over time.
    that is, until a catastrophic intervention resets reality.

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  • The Slave Market, painting (c. 1884) by Jean-Léon Gérôme (source) Can Europeans, and European women in particular, become objects of trade? The idea seems laughable, since the term ‘slave trade’ almost always brings Africans to mind. Yet there was a time not so long ago when Europe exported slaves on a large scale. Between 1500...
  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Mostly bollocks. Before The Crusades, Europe, the Med and Near Middle East (which people forget was part of Christendom) were invaded and attacked relentlessly by the forces of Islam; it was the muslims who enslaved the Slavs; they destroyed the Classical world (long story but they attacked at a time when the European powers had become weak), they destroyed almost all of Christendom, they destroyed the trade routes, and hunted the Slavs for the African and Arabian slave markets.

    Europe was economically devastated by the Islamic invasions but it’s fortunes improved dramatically with the success of The Crusades. Making the Islamic jihadi invasions a sidenote in the story is like leaving the Nazis out of the story of the Second World War.

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  • Code of Hammurabi. Today, law is based on universality, impartiality, and non-discrimination. Yet, originally, its core principles were the very opposite. A key stage in cultural evolution has been the transition from low-trust to high-trust societies. Originally, the “horizon of trust” encompassed only close kin and long-time friends. Then, in some societies, this horizon progressively...
  • […] From low-trust to high-trust […]

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  • Rice paddies, China, circa 1917-1923 (source). To grow rice, you must cooperate with neighbors for irrigation and labor. Today, even with the shift to a post-agricultural society, Chinese from rice-farming areas display less individualism and more interdependence than Chinese from wheat-farming areas. Is this evidence of gene-culture co-evolution? Human populations differ in genetic variants that...
  • […] require far more interdependence and co-operation in order to work at all, conversely fostering theevolution of collectivism. Thus, not only are Asians much more introverted on average than non-Asians, they are more […]

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  • […] require far more interdependence and co-operation in order to work at all, conversely fostering the evolution of collectivism. Thus, not only are Asians much more introverted on average than non-Asians, they are more […]

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  • Long a land of emigration, China has become one of immigration. Surprising? Not really. Life is now better there than in most of the Third World. Meanwhile, with fewer people leaving the Chinese countryside for the cities, employers have to offer higher wages and better working conditions ... or get their labor elsewhere. Finally, with...
  • @Massimo Heitor

    Amazing. I saw the very beginning of this first-hand, but I never would have thought Africans would be in China in such significant numbers
     
    The higher estimate of African origin people living in all of China is given as 500K. Official numbers are much lower.

    That's nothing. There are single states in the US that get larger volumes of permanent sub-Saharan African immigrants in a single year, much less as a cumulative total. Or tiny regions of Europe can get 500K immigrants from Africa in a week.

    That’s nothing. There are single states in the US that get larger volumes of permanent sub-Saharan African immigrants in a single year, much less as a cumulative total. Or tiny regions of Europe can get 500K immigrants from Africa in a week.

    That does not sound right. You got some sources for that? Germany took in about 1.5 million MENA “refugees” in TOTAL for 2015. Still a tremendous amount no doubt, but far from the 0.5 million African migrants per week you claimed.

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  • @Bill P
    Amazing. I saw the very beginning of this first-hand, but I never would have thought Africans would be in China in such significant numbers

    Although some may find it odd, Africans actually fit in with Chinese better than they do with Westerners in some ways. Chinese don't really think in Western racial terms, and in fact a lot of Chinese peasants are pretty dark themselves.

    Chinese have a patronizing attitude toward tribal peoples, and support policies to bring them into the greater Chinese civilization through intermarriage. By the time people have a Chinese surname and speak the language fluently, they are considered racially Chinese even if they don't look Chinese to an outsider.

    As an example, after some time in China I could speak Chinese pretty well without too much of an accent. When I became confident and conversational in the language, Chinese people would insist, in all seriousness, that I must be part Chinese. But I was as white as white gets, blue-eyed and light-haired with a red beard, and about six inches taller and much hairier than your average Chinese guy. Still, they insisted that I "looked Chinese."

    Eventually, I discovered that in Chinese people's minds, adopting Chinese language and culture has a big influence on their perceptions. So my guess is that Africans in China will integrate better than they can in Anglo countries. From what I saw, they certainly had no trouble finding wives among Chinese women.

    Another thing to consider is that south China's climate is close to tropical. Africans would be perfectly comfortable there as peasants, and I don't see why Chinese landlords would be averse to having them as tenant farmers in the ancient pattern of Chinese agriculture. Perhaps a mixed population with roots in both China and Africa will emerge, and the Africa of the future will end up partially sinicized both culturally and racially.

    Amazing. I saw the very beginning of this first-hand, but I never would have thought Africans would be in China in such significant numbers

    The higher estimate of African origin people living in all of China is given as 500K. Official numbers are much lower.

    That’s nothing. There are single states in the US that get larger volumes of permanent sub-Saharan African immigrants in a single year, much less as a cumulative total. Or tiny regions of Europe can get 500K immigrants from Africa in a week.

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    That’s nothing. There are single states in the US that get larger volumes of permanent sub-Saharan African immigrants in a single year, much less as a cumulative total. Or tiny regions of Europe can get 500K immigrants from Africa in a week.
     
    That does not sound right. You got some sources for that? Germany took in about 1.5 million MENA "refugees" in TOTAL for 2015. Still a tremendous amount no doubt, but far from the 0.5 million African migrants per week you claimed.
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  • @Anonymous
    I see no reason why Chinese should ask Africans why are you here in Chinese? My reason is chinese are everywhere in Africa even in villages of our beautiful continent looking for what they didn't lost in our land. If you see overstayed visa holders in China is all about their refusal to renew visa or issue work permit or resident permit. If chinese come to Africa and see business opportunities, we say welcome to Africa why is it that if African visit China and see business opportunities you can say welcome to China but why are you here? The best answer to that is because you are there! Let me send this as a caveat to the Chinese people, china and africa are like a conjoined twins, we need to cooperate with ourselves in other for us to be happy permanently. Africa and china are on the moon at such, we must move in harmony. I love China personally because of their foreign policy toward Africa even though I have not been there. I love you all and may God give us the wisdom to fully understand that there is interdependency between us China and Africa.

    The matter is more than just economics. The Chinese don’t want low IQ Africans flooding their country and contaminating their gene pool.

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  • peter, it’s your blog and it’s great so you get to deal with commenters at whim (steve sailer’s stance), so why bother with quarrelers? there may be better use of your time.

    not overly related but fun–i didn’t know that “Blasian” was a thing, but boy, is it ever! i’m highly critical of globalism, but …well!

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  • Chanda Chisala has written another piece on IQ and African immigrants to the UK: The correct term is not "regression to the mean." It's "non-inheritance of acquired characteristics." In other words, each person has a single genotype and a range of possible phenotypes. A culture can push its members to either limit of this range,...
  • @Simon in London
    I spent years wondering why my Nigerian (and similar - eg Ghanaian) postgraduate students did better than students of any other nationality except the Germans. This seemed a major contradiction to Lynn's IQ data. Finding out about the Igbo has been very enlightening. I do sometimes see some very intelligent students from non-Igo African populations also - I suspect the Igbo are not the only high-IQ black African group.

    The Igbo and the Yoruba in Nigeria generally tend to outperform most Black African and most Black groups generally speaking. Ironically, Diasporan Yorubas outperform the Igbos academically. Though the two groups outperform whites in the UK.

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • @joe webb
    interesting, I keep hearing good things about Hanson, who tries to survive academia I guess.


    What else does Hanson say about the other Greeks? The standard views I have read say that Greeks had relatively few slaves, especially compared to the wholesale introduction of slavery into Rome after it went into empire mode. thanks

    Joe Webb

    The brutal forms of Greek slavery — with the exception of the Spartans, who appalled other Greeks by their mass slavery of fellow Greeks — were reserved for prisoners of war, criminals , and the like. These were sent to perform dangerous work in appalling conditions. The Parthenon was paid for with silver mined by slaves whose expectation of life on entering the mines was measured in a few tens of months. In a kharmic reversal, Syracuse sent the survivors of the Athenian attempt to conquer Sicily into their mines. Very few ever returned home.

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  • @Peter Frost
    A novice reader coming to this SPLC piece would realize that there must be something to this HBD thing, presuming they were not deterred by the SPLC’s God-like decree that this topic matter is evil and hence verboten.

    Jayman,

    Your second point shouldn't be underestimated. The SPLC has much influence among nice, well-meaning, "salt of the earth" people. They see it as the voice of moral authority and dutifully fall into line. That single page has turned Henry Harpending into persona non grata.

    I've search for other obituaries in the mainstream media and I can't find any. The Salt Lake Tribune didn't have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.

    I will write to the SPLC, asking them to delete that page.

    Darwin’s followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were ‘human’ since Adam.

    Rehmat,

    I'm sure you do, like my mother. This isn't an Islam versus Christianity issue. It's an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom. The great Muslim thinker Ibn Khaldun (14th century) accepted the reality of evolution ... long before Darwin:

    This world with all the created things in it has a certain order and solid construction. It shows nexuses between causes and things caused, combinations of some parts of creation with others, and transformations of some existent things into others, in a pattern that is both remarkable and endless.

     


    One should then take a look at the world of creation. It started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word 'connection' with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the newest group.

     


    The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Natural_sciences

    Peter what can we do to bring you back?


    Helena,

    Very little, unfortunately. When I stopped blogging in December I took on two major projects, which are now taking up almost all of my time. What little time is left over is reserved for writing and publishing academic articles.

    There is also the issue of comment moderation. In my country (Canada) I can be held legally liable for anything that commenters write.

    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members.


    Art,

    All humans have a strong desire to cooperate. The main difference is whom they wish to cooperate with. Usually, people want to cooperate with close kin, and even today, in most of the world, the most successful businesses tend to be family-run. Northwest Europeans are unusual in the sense that they have a long history, at least the past millennium and perhaps much longer, of weaker kinship ties and a stronger desire to cooperate on the basis of whether or not one belongs to the "moral community." Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.

    ***he Salt Lake Tribune didn’t have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.***

    That’s appalling. I wrote to the NY Times asking why they hadn’t written an obit for Arthur Jensen & also Professor James Flynn. Flynn ended up writing an obit that was published in the NY Times. I might write to the Tribune and see if I get a response.

    Peter, I hope that once you have more time you do return to blogging. Your insights are greatly appreciated and always interesting. If moderating comments is too time-consuming maybe just turn the comments off in the meantime? I think people would rather have you back in some capacity than not at all.

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  • @Stephen R. Diamond

    As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal?
     
    Could you explain further, as I don't follow what the signal is that's inverted?

    What I meant was:

    Tribalism (Middle East) —> Universalism (Islam)

    Universalism (Europe) —> Tribalism (National Socialism)

    And I should have written “inverted sign” not “inverted signal”.

    This is of course very schematic, and differences between historical and geographical contexts and institutions should be taken into account when performing a detailed analysis.

    Best Wishes.

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  • @Brás Cubas
    I am not an expert in anthropology of any kind, so please consider this as just an unpretentious contribution based on what I have read along the years, in mostly texts aimed at laypersons such as myself. Before Islam, the Arab world was indeed a chaos of tribalism and fragmentation. Perhaps Islam was precisely the institution fit to that region's particular history and geography, if one thinks in Hegelian (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) terms. As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal? As I said, I am not an expert, so any rebuttals will only add to my knowledge and are thus welcome. A final caveat: the above does not imply in any way a moral assessment of either Islam or National Socialism. Best wishes for you,

    Marcelo

    As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal?

    Could you explain further, as I don’t follow what the signal is that’s inverted?

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    What I meant was:

    Tribalism (Middle East) ---> Universalism (Islam)

    Universalism (Europe) ---> Tribalism (National Socialism)

    And I should have written "inverted sign" not "inverted signal".

    This is of course very schematic, and differences between historical and geographical contexts and institutions should be taken into account when performing a detailed analysis.

    Best Wishes.

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  • @Stephen R. Diamond

    Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.
     
    If moral absolutism is actually associated with moral universalism, then universalism is indeed a bug rather than a feature.

    But is radical Islam, arising from a clannish culture, not highly absolutistic?

    The question of Nazi Germany elicits different explanations from HBDers. Jayman thinks racism is associated with clannishness (while rejecting ethnic genetic interests); he sees anti-Semitism, for example, as having a prior history in Germany. You see Nazi racism as reflecting universalism. Karlin accepts genetic ethnic interests. Surely these differences are important- perhaps embarrassing for HBD.

    I am not an expert in anthropology of any kind, so please consider this as just an unpretentious contribution based on what I have read along the years, in mostly texts aimed at laypersons such as myself. Before Islam, the Arab world was indeed a chaos of tribalism and fragmentation. Perhaps Islam was precisely the institution fit to that region’s particular history and geography, if one thinks in Hegelian (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) terms. As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal? As I said, I am not an expert, so any rebuttals will only add to my knowledge and are thus welcome. A final caveat: the above does not imply in any way a moral assessment of either Islam or National Socialism. Best wishes for you,

    Marcelo

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    As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal?
     
    Could you explain further, as I don't follow what the signal is that's inverted?
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  • @Peter Frost
    A novice reader coming to this SPLC piece would realize that there must be something to this HBD thing, presuming they were not deterred by the SPLC’s God-like decree that this topic matter is evil and hence verboten.

    Jayman,

    Your second point shouldn't be underestimated. The SPLC has much influence among nice, well-meaning, "salt of the earth" people. They see it as the voice of moral authority and dutifully fall into line. That single page has turned Henry Harpending into persona non grata.

    I've search for other obituaries in the mainstream media and I can't find any. The Salt Lake Tribune didn't have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.

    I will write to the SPLC, asking them to delete that page.

    Darwin’s followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were ‘human’ since Adam.

    Rehmat,

    I'm sure you do, like my mother. This isn't an Islam versus Christianity issue. It's an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom. The great Muslim thinker Ibn Khaldun (14th century) accepted the reality of evolution ... long before Darwin:

    This world with all the created things in it has a certain order and solid construction. It shows nexuses between causes and things caused, combinations of some parts of creation with others, and transformations of some existent things into others, in a pattern that is both remarkable and endless.

     


    One should then take a look at the world of creation. It started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word 'connection' with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the newest group.

     


    The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Natural_sciences

    Peter what can we do to bring you back?


    Helena,

    Very little, unfortunately. When I stopped blogging in December I took on two major projects, which are now taking up almost all of my time. What little time is left over is reserved for writing and publishing academic articles.

    There is also the issue of comment moderation. In my country (Canada) I can be held legally liable for anything that commenters write.

    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members.


    Art,

    All humans have a strong desire to cooperate. The main difference is whom they wish to cooperate with. Usually, people want to cooperate with close kin, and even today, in most of the world, the most successful businesses tend to be family-run. Northwest Europeans are unusual in the sense that they have a long history, at least the past millennium and perhaps much longer, of weaker kinship ties and a stronger desire to cooperate on the basis of whether or not one belongs to the "moral community." Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.

    Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.

    If moral absolutism is actually associated with moral universalism, then universalism is indeed a bug rather than a feature.

    But is radical Islam, arising from a clannish culture, not highly absolutistic?

    The question of Nazi Germany elicits different explanations from HBDers. Jayman thinks racism is associated with clannishness (while rejecting ethnic genetic interests); he sees anti-Semitism, for example, as having a prior history in Germany. You see Nazi racism as reflecting universalism. Karlin accepts genetic ethnic interests. Surely these differences are important- perhaps embarrassing for HBD.

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    I am not an expert in anthropology of any kind, so please consider this as just an unpretentious contribution based on what I have read along the years, in mostly texts aimed at laypersons such as myself. Before Islam, the Arab world was indeed a chaos of tribalism and fragmentation. Perhaps Islam was precisely the institution fit to that region's particular history and geography, if one thinks in Hegelian (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) terms. As for National Socialism, maybe something analogous happened, with inverted signal? As I said, I am not an expert, so any rebuttals will only add to my knowledge and are thus welcome. A final caveat: the above does not imply in any way a moral assessment of either Islam or National Socialism. Best wishes for you,

    Marcelo
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  • Chanda Chisala has written another piece on IQ and African immigrants to the UK: The correct term is not "regression to the mean." It's "non-inheritance of acquired characteristics." In other words, each person has a single genotype and a range of possible phenotypes. A culture can push its members to either limit of this range,...
  • @Priss Factor
    Smarter or dumber, blacks are more muscular and more aggressive than white men.

    They will emasculate white men in the white world.

    THAT is the main reason why the West should oppose the arrival of more blacks.

    Suppose every African migrant to Europe had an IQ of 150. Would that be any better?

    No, the Negroes will gain not only physical but intellectual/economic power over whites.

    Did you watch any Glory or MMA lately?

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Regression to the mean is something else….or is it.

    It happens because ofgenetic change. For instance, a man with above-average IQ will likely marry a woman with above-average IQ. But only part of their above-averageness is genetic.

    But what if their above average IQ is only ‘just above’ because of unfavorable circumstances, in other circumstances it would have been even higher. So their children’s IQ will be even higher if they themselves grow up in better circumstances. So their children will in turn marry someone with an even higher IQ and the descendants of the original couple will belong to the cognitive elite.

    So much for regression to the mean, which can only occur if there is no natural selection taking place, which is what assortative mating actually is.

    Remember Darwin people?

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  • African Americans sleep on average almost an hour less than do Euro Americans. The two groups have mean sleep times of 6.05 hours and 6.85 hours. This finding has recently been discussed by Brian Resnick in National Journal and by our Steve Sailer. Researchers reject a genetic explanation: "There is a consensus that innate biological...
  • Could be the reason they live such slothful lives rife with violence. Hard to figure out why the white man behaves the he does! I personally think it has to do with a genetic predisposition to lash out in hatred.
    The white man has only been civilized, for at best 5 centuries. Tens of thousands of years they lived as virtual land roaming savage animals. Natural selection selected the most violent psycopathic of the race that was successful in pro creating with as many negresess (their light skinned offspring) they could furthering their primitive behavior. It is futile to even attempt it. Anywhere the white man rests his head is an area that has experienced chaos and violence. From Africa to Europe, the white man leaves a wake destruction in its path.

    Just look at the destruction of native peoples all over the world! Not all of the white people are bad but I am sure the many mean well in their cognitive dissonant personalities as they want the best for all citizens and not just the ones who happen to have stolen power over the ages.

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  • Chanda Chisala has written another piece on IQ and African immigrants to the UK: The correct term is not "regression to the mean." It's "non-inheritance of acquired characteristics." In other words, each person has a single genotype and a range of possible phenotypes. A culture can push its members to either limit of this range,...
  • To correct an error I missed:
    17% believe they are perceived as ambiguous(not 28% as I mistakenly wrote before. The rest of the previous edit is correct.: 37% think they are seen as mixed, 5.7% don’t know, 38% as a single group).
    So there is a low-moderate tendency(38% as above) for back/white biracials to believe they are perceived as a single group according to the study.
    Two thirds of this 38%(ca. 25%) felt the single group they were perceived to be was “black” and the remaining third (ca. 12.6%) thought they were perceived as “another group”, or more rarely as “white”. And those who believe they are perceived as black do not necessarily identify as such.

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  • Henry Harpending (1944-2016) died this past Sunday. He had a stroke a year ago, and then a second one three weeks ago, but apparently he died of a lung infection. This is one of the risks of getting older: you dodge one bullet only to get hit by another. The cemeteries are full of people...
  • @anon
    The SPLC is an anti-white hate group

    *

    This is one of the risks of getting older
     
    One of the risks of getting older and going into hospital.

    One of my elderly relatives died that way recently - went ion with a physical injury (broken bone) picked up infection in hospital.

    Avoid hospitals if you can afford it.

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    RIP Mr Harpending

    I didn't know about his earlier work; if western civilization survives the current crisis i hope he gets a statue somewhere along with iSteve and the other truth tellers.

    Refusing to go to the hospital when you have a stroke is not a lifespan-enhancing strategy.

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  • edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    you have my vote Ron

    and I will tellsomething something else too you are what I call a good Jew MR Ron Unz

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    ONTH I think I could do bet6ter…maybe///??

    no I canteventype too drunk at yhis timr

    Y?

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  • @Peter Frost
    A novice reader coming to this SPLC piece would realize that there must be something to this HBD thing, presuming they were not deterred by the SPLC’s God-like decree that this topic matter is evil and hence verboten.

    Jayman,

    Your second point shouldn't be underestimated. The SPLC has much influence among nice, well-meaning, "salt of the earth" people. They see it as the voice of moral authority and dutifully fall into line. That single page has turned Henry Harpending into persona non grata.

    I've search for other obituaries in the mainstream media and I can't find any. The Salt Lake Tribune didn't have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.

    I will write to the SPLC, asking them to delete that page.

    Darwin’s followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were ‘human’ since Adam.

    Rehmat,

    I'm sure you do, like my mother. This isn't an Islam versus Christianity issue. It's an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom. The great Muslim thinker Ibn Khaldun (14th century) accepted the reality of evolution ... long before Darwin:

    This world with all the created things in it has a certain order and solid construction. It shows nexuses between causes and things caused, combinations of some parts of creation with others, and transformations of some existent things into others, in a pattern that is both remarkable and endless.

     


    One should then take a look at the world of creation. It started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word 'connection' with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the newest group.

     


    The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Natural_sciences

    Peter what can we do to bring you back?


    Helena,

    Very little, unfortunately. When I stopped blogging in December I took on two major projects, which are now taking up almost all of my time. What little time is left over is reserved for writing and publishing academic articles.

    There is also the issue of comment moderation. In my country (Canada) I can be held legally liable for anything that commenters write.

    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members.


    Art,

    All humans have a strong desire to cooperate. The main difference is whom they wish to cooperate with. Usually, people want to cooperate with close kin, and even today, in most of the world, the most successful businesses tend to be family-run. Northwest Europeans are unusual in the sense that they have a long history, at least the past millennium and perhaps much longer, of weaker kinship ties and a stronger desire to cooperate on the basis of whether or not one belongs to the "moral community." Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.

    It’s an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom.

    Yes, absolutely. As a person who tries to live a Christian life, and studies the New Testament, I had no problem getting a doctorate in a specialty that required knowledge of certain aspects of the evolution of the brain.
    To quote from the Fourth Book of Milton’s Paradise Lost :

    “Knowledge forbidden?
    Suspicious, reasonless! Why should their Lord
    Envy them that? Can it be sin to know?”

    I think not.

    I do miss new posts to “Evo and Proud.” I’ve read every one and learned much, though I’ve never commented. Reading them, you seemed not only to be a knowledgeable and intelligent man, but also a man with a sincere and good heart. Perhaps some day you can pick it up again.

    A very nice eulogy for Prof. Harpending. He will be missed not only by his family and friends, but also by many of us who never met him yet considered him a blood-relation of the mind.

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  • @fox
    again show me the evidence for the bigger gonads in Arabs and turks.

    in my #2..”It would be interesting to discover the relative weights of Arab and Turkic testacles and also the Africans’. Rushton has blacks possessing 10 to 20% more testosterone…”

    I thus did not claim any evidence but thought it would be interesting to find out since the aggression levels of these folks are pretty high, but ungoverned by high intelligence , like in Whites.

    the fox is a numbskull. Rushton is totally reliable.

    I note that in my many attempts to get numbskull liberals to read just a teen weeny little something…they refuse. You can lead a numbskull to water but you cannot make him think.

    Joe Webb

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  • @fox
    how does r selection explain afamerican fertility rate of 2.0

    What is…. Abortion? Talk to Margaret Sanger about that.

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    Please explain. Why say something such as that without backing your assertion?

    how does r selection explain afamerican fertility rate of 2.0

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    What is.... Abortion? Talk to Margaret Sanger about that.
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  • @joe webb
    well that is an interesting charge. Please explain. First, have you read the unabridged edition with its one thousand references? Are you foxy?

    Joe Webb

    again show me the evidence for the bigger gonads in Arabs and turks.

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    in my #2.."It would be interesting to discover the relative weights of Arab and Turkic testacles and also the Africans’. Rushton has blacks possessing 10 to 20% more testosterone..."

    I thus did not claim any evidence but thought it would be interesting to find out since the aggression levels of these folks are pretty high, but ungoverned by high intelligence , like in Whites.

    the fox is a numbskull. Rushton is totally reliable.

    I note that in my many attempts to get numbskull liberals to read just a teen weeny little something...they refuse. You can lead a numbskull to water but you cannot make him think.

    Joe Webb
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  • A novice reader coming to this SPLC piece would realize that there must be something to this HBD thing, presuming they were not deterred by the SPLC’s God-like decree that this topic matter is evil and hence verboten.

    Jayman,

    Your second point shouldn’t be underestimated. The SPLC has much influence among nice, well-meaning, “salt of the earth” people. They see it as the voice of moral authority and dutifully fall into line. That single page has turned Henry Harpending into persona non grata.

    I’ve search for other obituaries in the mainstream media and I can’t find any. The Salt Lake Tribune didn’t have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.

    I will write to the SPLC, asking them to delete that page.

    Darwin’s followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were ‘human’ since Adam.

    Rehmat,

    I’m sure you do, like my mother. This isn’t an Islam versus Christianity issue. It’s an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom. The great Muslim thinker Ibn Khaldun (14th century) accepted the reality of evolution … long before Darwin:

    This world with all the created things in it has a certain order and solid construction. It shows nexuses between causes and things caused, combinations of some parts of creation with others, and transformations of some existent things into others, in a pattern that is both remarkable and endless.

    One should then take a look at the world of creation. It started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word ‘connection’ with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the newest group.

    The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Natural_sciences

    Peter what can we do to bring you back?

    Helena,

    Very little, unfortunately. When I stopped blogging in December I took on two major projects, which are now taking up almost all of my time. What little time is left over is reserved for writing and publishing academic articles.

    There is also the issue of comment moderation. In my country (Canada) I can be held legally liable for anything that commenters write.

    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members.

    Art,

    All humans have a strong desire to cooperate. The main difference is whom they wish to cooperate with. Usually, people want to cooperate with close kin, and even today, in most of the world, the most successful businesses tend to be family-run. Northwest Europeans are unusual in the sense that they have a long history, at least the past millennium and perhaps much longer, of weaker kinship ties and a stronger desire to cooperate on the basis of whether or not one belongs to the “moral community.” Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.

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    It’s an issue as to whether one interprets sacred texts mechanically or with wisdom.

    Yes, absolutely. As a person who tries to live a Christian life, and studies the New Testament, I had no problem getting a doctorate in a specialty that required knowledge of certain aspects of the evolution of the brain.
    To quote from the Fourth Book of Milton's Paradise Lost :

    "Knowledge forbidden?
    Suspicious, reasonless! Why should their Lord
    Envy them that? Can it be sin to know?"

    I think not.

    I do miss new posts to "Evo and Proud." I've read every one and learned much, though I've never commented. Reading them, you seemed not only to be a knowledgeable and intelligent man, but also a man with a sincere and good heart. Perhaps some day you can pick it up again.

    A very nice eulogy for Prof. Harpending. He will be missed not only by his family and friends, but also by many of us who never met him yet considered him a blood-relation of the mind.
    , @Stephen R. Diamond

    Among them, morality itself is less kin-based and more oriented to moral universalism and moral absolutism.
     
    If moral absolutism is actually associated with moral universalism, then universalism is indeed a bug rather than a feature.

    But is radical Islam, arising from a clannish culture, not highly absolutistic?

    The question of Nazi Germany elicits different explanations from HBDers. Jayman thinks racism is associated with clannishness (while rejecting ethnic genetic interests); he sees anti-Semitism, for example, as having a prior history in Germany. You see Nazi racism as reflecting universalism. Karlin accepts genetic ethnic interests. Surely these differences are important- perhaps embarrassing for HBD.
    , @Julian
    ***he Salt Lake Tribune didn’t have one, even though Henry was a well-known professor at The University of Utah.***

    That's appalling. I wrote to the NY Times asking why they hadn't written an obit for Arthur Jensen & also Professor James Flynn. Flynn ended up writing an obit that was published in the NY Times. I might write to the Tribune and see if I get a response.

    Peter, I hope that once you have more time you do return to blogging. Your insights are greatly appreciated and always interesting. If moderating comments is too time-consuming maybe just turn the comments off in the meantime? I think people would rather have you back in some capacity than not at all.
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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    The SPLC is an anti-white hate group

    *

    This is one of the risks of getting older

    One of the risks of getting older and going into hospital.

    One of my elderly relatives died that way recently – went ion with a physical injury (broken bone) picked up infection in hospital.

    Avoid hospitals if you can afford it.

    *

    RIP Mr Harpending

    I didn’t know about his earlier work; if western civilization survives the current crisis i hope he gets a statue somewhere along with iSteve and the other truth tellers.

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    Refusing to go to the hospital when you have a stroke is not a lifespan-enhancing strategy.
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  • @Sherman
    Hey Homer

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.

    Sherm

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.

    HBD Chick is your lady on that:

    fbd cousin marriage and clans and tribes in iraq | hbd chick

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  • @Sherman
    Hey Homer

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.

    Sherm

    Hey Sharon….

    I’m sure Henry Harpending had laud Muslims for becoming a nation of 2 billion within 1,400 years – while you Jews remain less than 13 million in 3,500 years.

    Oops! I wonder if Henry Harpending would know that the reason for Jews decreasing population was – according to Talmud, Romans killed 4 billion Jews 2,100 years ago!!

    It’s shrinking – not because of the so-called “anti-Semitism” or due to the fear of “future Holocaust” pinned on Iranian president Ahmadinejad – but because more and more born-Jews are leaving their religion as result of being disgusted by the water-down Judaism…..

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/04/12/jewish-population-is-shrinking/

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  • @Rehmat
    Let's face some truths Peter Frost .....

    "The cemeteries are full of people who die before their time."

    There are two secrets that the Creator didn't reveal to the 'human genius' - birth and death. The timings of these two are pre-determined.

    The "human evolution", like "terrorism" has unlimited definitions. Darwin's followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were 'human' since Adam.

    "SPLC’s blacklisting" is usually based on how the Organized Jewry sees the organization's victims.

    On August 20, 2013, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), the US-based Jewish civil liberty group, condemned former US Rep. Ron Paul for agreeing to be the keynote speaker at a conference sponsored by Canadian Fatima Center. The Catholic group, has long been designated by Jewish groups as “radical Christian” and “Jew-hater”. Incidently, Mel Gibson’s father Hutton Gibson is contacted with the group.

    The conference is titled ‘Fatima: The Path to Peace’ – calling for the merger of the Church and State in the world government. The conference will be held Niagra Falls’ Scotiabank Convention Centre from September 8-13, 2013. In addition to Ron Paul, the other notable speakers will include Roberto Fiore, former EU member from Italy and John F. McManus, president of John Birch Society. McManus is linked to E. Michael Jones, editor of Culture Wars monthly Catholic magazine. All these three dudes are well-known “antisemites”, according to the SPLC.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/09/03/splc-ron-paul-mingles-with-canadian-jew-haters/

    Hey Homer

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.

    Sherm

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    Hey Sharon....

    I'm sure Henry Harpending had laud Muslims for becoming a nation of 2 billion within 1,400 years - while you Jews remain less than 13 million in 3,500 years.

    Oops! I wonder if Henry Harpending would know that the reason for Jews decreasing population was - according to Talmud, Romans killed 4 billion Jews 2,100 years ago!!

    It’s shrinking – not because of the so-called “anti-Semitism” or due to the fear of “future Holocaust” pinned on Iranian president Ahmadinejad – but because more and more born-Jews are leaving their religion as result of being disgusted by the water-down Judaism.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/04/12/jewish-population-is-shrinking/
    , @JayMan

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.
     
    HBD Chick is your lady on that:

    fbd cousin marriage and clans and tribes in iraq | hbd chick
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  • @fox
    rushton theories are mostly wrong.I seriously doubt that Arabs have larger gonads.

    Please explain. Why say something such as that without backing your assertion?

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  • @Art
    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members. Cold weather requires both cooperation and individual intellectual prowess. Where as in traditional Africa emotional individualism and physical prowess succeed.

    Questions:

    Do most all humans have an inherent full complement of emotions both for cooperation and for individualism at birth.

    And Africa is changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?

    And Africa is changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?

    You can’t be serious. What Africa are you looking at?

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  • I like the stock comedic grouch mentioned in Hansons’ “The Other Greeks” who, despite the small size of his farm, wishing not to be distracted by his work, reserved the ground along the road for throwing rocks at passers by. Of course you would need to experience growing fruit visible to the infantile public to sympathize with this. I posited “narrow ball to brain ratio’ in the mid 1980s to explain testosterone toxicity as a cause of overly macho behavior such as throwing rocks at strangers passing by. I found Hansons’ book on the discard table at a public library. Hanson claims that the intellectual flowering of Classic Athens was enabled by a cordon of curmudgeonly small farmers, sheep dipped as heavy infantry/militiamen.

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  • @theo the kraut
    he's tooting his own horn quite a bit indeed--given that his blog is well worth reading i'll forgive that little weakness easily. as you seem to tolerate a jewish host you might want to do that, too. jay's relevant fault seems to be that he's not lily white as you are, for which feat you deserve to be richly praised.

    I am a bit confused by some of your comments.

    I am unaware of the religious persuasion of R. Unz. If he is Jewish, I would not need to summon any toleration for myself.

    I do not consider not being lily white as a fault. Anyway, my feet are pink and not a particular point of pride.

    Intellectual dimwits. As opposed to regular dimwits?

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  • @theo the kraut
    he's tooting his own horn quite a bit indeed--given that his blog is well worth reading i'll forgive that little weakness easily. as you seem to tolerate a jewish host you might want to do that, too. jay's relevant fault seems to be that he's not lily white as you are, for which feat you deserve to be richly praised.

    He was irreplaceable not so much because he knew more but because he was unafraid to say and act on what he knew.

    Henry did not hide behind a pseudonym, and as a member of the National Academy of Sciences, no-one could doubt he was qualified to speak on Darwinian selection in humans. He also had something to say about credibility among scientists.

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  • Art says:

    One thing that separates the European and Africa peoples is the emotional ability to cooperate. Europeans make good team members. Cold weather requires both cooperation and individual intellectual prowess. Where as in traditional Africa emotional individualism and physical prowess succeed.

    Questions:

    Do most all humans have an inherent full complement of emotions both for cooperation and for individualism at birth.

    And Africa is changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?

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    And Africa is changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?
     
    You can't be serious. What Africa are you looking at?
    , @Helga Vierich
    “Africa” is pictured by you was pure place with one people who are just now ‘ changing from hunter gather society to a cooperative intellectual society – is genetic evolution currently taking place?” - the level of ignorance is very sad. Educate yourself: for starters, check out the following article in the Business Insider: "Here's what it was like to be Mansa Musa, thought to be the richest person in history” written by Kathleen Elkins, Feb. 14, 2016.
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  • A certain person we will not name, famous for the discovery of the double helix, once said “Harpending must really have balls of steel, in order to take a genetic look at Jewish intelligence.”

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/i-cant-afford-to-think-about-that/

    He will be missed.

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  • @iffen
    Am I alone in thinking Jay’s constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly?

    He wants to stop doing it but he can't; his GGG Grandfather won't let him.

    he’s tooting his own horn quite a bit indeed–given that his blog is well worth reading i’ll forgive that little weakness easily. as you seem to tolerate a jewish host you might want to do that, too. jay’s relevant fault seems to be that he’s not lily white as you are, for which feat you deserve to be richly praised.

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    He was irreplaceable not so much because he knew more but because he was unafraid to say and act on what he knew.
     
    Henry did not hide behind a pseudonym, and as a member of the National Academy of Sciences, no-one could doubt he was qualified to speak on Darwinian selection in humans. He also had something to say about credibility among scientists.
    , @iffen
    I am a bit confused by some of your comments.

    I am unaware of the religious persuasion of R. Unz. If he is Jewish, I would not need to summon any toleration for myself.

    I do not consider not being lily white as a fault. Anyway, my feet are pink and not a particular point of pride.

    Intellectual dimwits. As opposed to regular dimwits?
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  • @David
    Am I alone in thinking Jay's constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly? His blog appears on this site so anyone reading Frost is already aware of it.

    people like sailer, unz, frost, or razib khan–intellectual dimwits unlike you–value his contributions. once you ad similar value you’re free to complain. till then, stfu.

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  • @David
    Am I alone in thinking Jay's constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly? His blog appears on this site so anyone reading Frost is already aware of it.

    You’re not alone.

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  • @iffen
    Ah, you’re funny. Did you mean that to look like a codon?

    No, I'm not anywhere near that sharp. It took me a couple of minutes to decode your reference.

    *******

    RIP Henry, he once replied with warmth and intelligence to a comment of mine.

    It is selfish of me to think it, but I am really disappointed that we won't get Part II of the blog post When Public Policy Meets Elementary Biology.

    I don’t think that’s selfish, I think it’s nice to talk about people’s achievements or what they were working on.

    *****

    Hey Joe (don’t get me down), I had a major (tiny) breakthrough in my one-woman campaign to end colour assignations this morning – a talk show was discussing inherent racism in the new Thomas the Tank production (trains from all over the world etc.) – the problem seems to be that engines in trouble churn out black smoke, so i phoned in and said “we should stop referring to people as colours and then there wouldn’t be a problem’. To which the broadcaster said ‘and what do you think about the train that was painted pink and then laughed at because it was male?’. And I said, ‘I think it’s OK for boys to wear pink but my point was…’. You see Joe, the Libtards do not want an end to colour assignation. Libtards do not want Europeans to embrace their ethnicity. And so, far white knights are playing right into the hands of far left Libtards.

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  • @Discard
    I just finished Victor Davis Hanson's "The Other Greeks". He argues that Greek democracy was rooted in the hillside cultivation of vines, fruit trees, and olives. Big landowners grew wheat on level and fertile land using lots of slaves, while the marginal land was farmed in small 10 to 20 acre plots by the landowner and one or two slaves. Over the generations, the carefully cultivated and irrigated hillsides became highly productive and the independent small landowners became the backbone of the polis, rather than the wealthy and highborn. The agriculture created the culture.

    interesting, I keep hearing good things about Hanson, who tries to survive academia I guess.

    What else does Hanson say about the other Greeks? The standard views I have read say that Greeks had relatively few slaves, especially compared to the wholesale introduction of slavery into Rome after it went into empire mode. thanks

    Joe Webb

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    The brutal forms of Greek slavery -- with the exception of the Spartans, who appalled other Greeks by their mass slavery of fellow Greeks -- were reserved for prisoners of war, criminals , and the like. These were sent to perform dangerous work in appalling conditions. The Parthenon was paid for with silver mined by slaves whose expectation of life on entering the mines was measured in a few tens of months. In a kharmic reversal, Syracuse sent the survivors of the Athenian attempt to conquer Sicily into their mines. Very few ever returned home.
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  • @fox
    rushton theories are mostly wrong.I seriously doubt that Arabs have larger gonads.

    well that is an interesting charge. Please explain. First, have you read the unabridged edition with its one thousand references? Are you foxy?

    Joe Webb

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    again show me the evidence for the bigger gonads in Arabs and turks.
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  • Ah, you’re funny. Did you mean that to look like a codon?

    No, I’m not anywhere near that sharp. It took me a couple of minutes to decode your reference.

    *******

    RIP Henry, he once replied with warmth and intelligence to a comment of mine.

    It is selfish of me to think it, but I am really disappointed that we won’t get Part II of the blog post When Public Policy Meets Elementary Biology.

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    I don't think that's selfish, I think it's nice to talk about people's achievements or what they were working on.





    *****

    Hey Joe (don't get me down), I had a major (tiny) breakthrough in my one-woman campaign to end colour assignations this morning - a talk show was discussing inherent racism in the new Thomas the Tank production (trains from all over the world etc.) - the problem seems to be that engines in trouble churn out black smoke, so i phoned in and said "we should stop referring to people as colours and then there wouldn't be a problem'. To which the broadcaster said 'and what do you think about the train that was painted pink and then laughed at because it was male?'. And I said, 'I think it's OK for boys to wear pink but my point was...'. You see Joe, the Libtards do not want an end to colour assignation. Libtards do not want Europeans to embrace their ethnicity. And so, far white knights are playing right into the hands of far left Libtards.
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  • @iffen
    Am I alone in thinking Jay’s constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly?

    He wants to stop doing it but he can't; his GGG Grandfather won't let him.

    Ah, you’re funny. Did you mean that to look like a codon?

    *******

    RIP Henry, he once replied with warmth and intelligence to a comment of mine.

    Peter what can we do to bring you back?

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  • Let’s face some truths Peter Frost …..

    “The cemeteries are full of people who die before their time.”

    There are two secrets that the Creator didn’t reveal to the ‘human genius’ – birth and death. The timings of these two are pre-determined.

    The “human evolution”, like “terrorism” has unlimited definitions. Darwin’s followers believe their ancestors were Apes. I believe my ancestors were ‘human’ since Adam.

    “SPLC’s blacklisting” is usually based on how the Organized Jewry sees the organization’s victims.

    On August 20, 2013, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), the US-based Jewish civil liberty group, condemned former US Rep. Ron Paul for agreeing to be the keynote speaker at a conference sponsored by Canadian Fatima Center. The Catholic group, has long been designated by Jewish groups as “radical Christian” and “Jew-hater”. Incidently, Mel Gibson’s father Hutton Gibson is contacted with the group.

    The conference is titled ‘Fatima: The Path to Peace’ – calling for the merger of the Church and State in the world government. The conference will be held Niagra Falls’ Scotiabank Convention Centre from September 8-13, 2013. In addition to Ron Paul, the other notable speakers will include Roberto Fiore, former EU member from Italy and John F. McManus, president of John Birch Society. McManus is linked to E. Michael Jones, editor of Culture Wars monthly Catholic magazine. All these three dudes are well-known “antisemites”, according to the SPLC.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/09/03/splc-ron-paul-mingles-with-canadian-jew-haters/

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    Hey Homer

    I wonder what Henry Harpending had to say about evolution and inbreeding in Muslim immigrant populations in the west.

    Sherm

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  • @David
    Am I alone in thinking Jay's constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly? His blog appears on this site so anyone reading Frost is already aware of it.

    Am I alone in thinking Jay’s constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly?

    He wants to stop doing it but he can’t; his GGG Grandfather won’t let him.

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    Ah, you're funny. Did you mean that to look like a codon?


    *******


    RIP Henry, he once replied with warmth and intelligence to a comment of mine.


    Peter what can we do to bring you back?
    , @theo the kraut
    he's tooting his own horn quite a bit indeed--given that his blog is well worth reading i'll forgive that little weakness easily. as you seem to tolerate a jewish host you might want to do that, too. jay's relevant fault seems to be that he's not lily white as you are, for which feat you deserve to be richly praised.
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  • @joe webb
    On p. 42 of Rushton's abridged 2nd edition of Race, Evolution and Behavior, he states that " Race differences in testacle size have also been measured ( Asians= 9 grams, Europeans= 21 grams."

    On the same page Rushton writes that this could mean that Whites produce twice as many sperm a day as do Orientals. He also states that so far we have no information on black testacles.

    Asians have various measures of lower sexual experience/events than whites.

    This is probably an example of coevolution of genes and culture. A while back at UR, a piece on Asian rice growing was compared to European wheat growing. The claim was made that because of the high degree of cooperation demanded by growing rice ...rice paddies and so on, and on the other hand, the relative personal independence permitted by individualistic wheat growing farmers who did not need to cooperate much...that Individualism was fostered in Europe and Collectivism was fostered in Asia.

    ( With regard to the Fertile Crescent...it is worth considering...I dunno what was grown there but collectivism certainly emerged in the Arabs one way or the other. Of course, Arabs have much lower IQs than East Asians and Whites, so IQ may be a larger factor than just collectivism determined by rapid evolution of temperamental differences. The collectivism of Arabs would seem to be different qualitatively than the collectivism of Asians. )

    So. It is conceivable that less aggressiveness is generally required by collectivisitic societies. The systematic weeding out of aggressive men, and women, might also reduce the size of testacles, since testosterone is related to aggression.

    Today, wimpy Asian men make perfect collectivistic zombies who do what they are told.
    White men today have certainly lost a lot of their balls, psychologically, but that is because they are no longer individualistic and independent farmers or small businessmen of any sort...more or less, mostly more, and have become Organization Men working on the Plantation, even if making big bucks. Get along, go along.

    Big balls need to be constrained by big brains, which helps to explain why Whites have been able to control themselves and build the best societies in the world. Blacks are so stupid that they cannot control themselves anywhere, and they are neither individualistic nor collectivistic. They are just chaotic, and require absolute rule by a dictator. This is also true of Arabs, not nearly as stupid as blacks, but still pretty dumb...85 average in Richard Lynn. Arabs also need the dictator or despot to rule them.

    It would be interesting to discover the relative weights of Arab and Turkic testacles and also the Africans'. Rushton has blacks possessing 10 to 20% more testosterone than whites, but has no data on Asians. Behavioral patterns of the 3 major races also reflects testosterone levels, or other hormones, etc. The quiet Asian child and adult vs. the blacks jumping around and the Whites in between. The 'moderate' or Goldilocks position seems to be best from the point of view of democratic republican government where elections are tolerated as the pragmatic way to solve problems.

    This is not just biologism, it is arguably gene-culture coevolution.

    Joe Webb

    rushton theories are mostly wrong.I seriously doubt that Arabs have larger gonads.

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    well that is an interesting charge. Please explain. First, have you read the unabridged edition with its one thousand references? Are you foxy?

    Joe Webb
    , @RaceRealist88
    Please explain. Why say something such as that without backing your assertion?
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  • He was a great man. His book with Cochran – and their WestHunt blog – changed my thinking on genetics forever. Rest in Peace. He won’t be forgotten

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  • I’m glad to see Peter Frost here again even if the reason is sad.

    I wanted to say that his comment that Canada was better when English Canadians were focused on maintaining English culture and institutions in Canada (and French Catholic Canadians were similarly focused on maintaining their traditions) hit home with me. It’s a simple observation that I’d never observed.

    It’s true of the US too. Laugh at all the Shaker Heights Tudor-style houses and fake family crests, the families that commissioned them had their eyes fixed on preserving their history and culture.

    A civilization without a sense of the eternal is not a civilization, at least not for long.

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  • @JayMan

    Last year, the Southern Poverty Law Center added his name to its list of “extremists”—a list that, curiously, omits people whose skin is darker than peaches and cream.
     
    Yup. See also my earlier column on it:

    Henry Harpending: Extremist – Says the Southern Poverty Law Center - The Unz Review

    That said (as noted within above column):

    Anyone notice something? In their piece to discredit Harpending, they’ve selected quotes and claims that pretty much make the case for HBD ... A novice reader coming to this SPLC piece would realize that there must be something to this HBD thing, presuming they were not deterred by the SPLC’s God-like decree that this topic matter is evil and hence verboten.
     
    ---

    Indeed, what’s the point of that list? Information gathering? Or is it more like incitement to extrajudicial punishment and, yes, extrajudicial violence? “Look folks, this is a BAD PERSON, so go and do what the justice system is too cowardly to do!” Isn’t that the point of the exercise? And isn’t that exactly what the KKK was condemned for doing?
     
    Well, see also my other column:

    The Donald Trump Phenomenon: Part 2: Binary Thinking - The Unz Review

    And for that matter, see also M.G.'s latest:

    Those Who Can See: When Progressives Get Religion

    Good to see you back Peter! An excellent tribute to Henry Harpending, as well.

    Am I alone in thinking Jay’s constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly? His blog appears on this site so anyone reading Frost is already aware of it.

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    Am I alone in thinking Jay’s constant promotion of his own blog is unseemly?

    He wants to stop doing it but he can't; his GGG Grandfather won't let him.
    , @Anonymous
    You're not alone.
    , @theo the kraut
    people like sailer, unz, frost, or razib khan--intellectual dimwits unlike you--value his contributions. once you ad similar value you're free to complain. till then, stfu.
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  • Natural selection is eugenic itself but immediatist or select short term and geographically specific quality.

    Harpending now will do the last work of all scientists, what exist after life and other extremely deep mysteries of the existence.

    I feel the death of all people, specially the virtuous ones, all of us must have solidarity with them.

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