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  • @Anon
    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.

    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.

    Agreed. Treachery seemed to run in the Churchill family.

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  • @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... whites have every liberty to form their own groups. "

    Not really. If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group. Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer's cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.

    "Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture."

    I will assume you're being sincere: Apparently, you don't follow trends. The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.

    “If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group.”

    Yet, despite SJW machinations, those whites have the freedom to form their own in-group. It doesn’t mean they are free from outside pressure. Besides, any group is “stigmatized” by their ideological opponents, so that argument goes out the door.

    “Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer’s cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.”

    Spencer’s group is indeed serious. See, you just stigmatized his merry band, yet they still remain steadfast in their desire to gain footing in their community.

    “Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture.”

    “I will assume you’re being sincere: Apparently, you don’t follow trends.”

    The trend is that the Coalition of the Fringes, Right and Left, write a narrative that normies find over-the-top.

    “The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.”

    A societal mantra as dictated by radical white liberals, not whites in general. In similar fashion, the Alt Right demands that whites accept “race realism”, lest they be labeled “race traitors” and summarily labeled as “enemies”.

    Works both ways here.

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  • @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... whites have every liberty to form their own groups. "

    Not really. If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group. Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer's cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.

    "Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture."

    I will assume you're being sincere: Apparently, you don't follow trends. The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.

    The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint

    if you’re a Brit or Swede who thinks England or Sweden have a right to maintain their ethnic and/or cultural character, then from every orifice of the hive comes the screeching of ‘Nazis! and ‘white supremacists!!!!’

    “RACISTS!!!’

    if you’re a white American who thinks Affirmative Action is wrong and racist and unfair, well then brace yourself for the orgy of hatred and screeching, ‘white supremacists!!!’

    and it goes beyond race now even to include ‘hateful constructs of the patriarchy’; like gender.

    that it’s all prima facie insane, doesn’t get in the way of they’re screeching and hysterics.

    And even here on the Unz Review, there are people who would say that any desire of white Americans to maintain any shred of their (white = racist) culture or heritage, are nothing more than vile “white supremacists”, who must be hounded and harangued for the crime of not hating their own kind (with the kind of visceral, rancorous race-hatred that they hate white people with ; )

    We live in a surreal idiocracy, where the most preposterous idiocies are given credence as if they were anything but the gibbering’s of a drooling lunatic.

    All you have to do is realize they want what you have. White people have created amazing civilizations in Europe and N. America and elsewhere, and it’s only natural that everyone else would want such things for themselves. Duh.

    But where it gets beyond ludicrous/obnoxious is when they demand white people have no right to even exist. Which is their mantra today, because they aren’t laughed out of the room, as they obviously should be.

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  • @Corvinus
    "And how about the left’s jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites..."

    Which is patently false. First, you are absolutely misapplying the concept "fascism" here, which means "a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce." The United States is not a fascist government, contrary to your tinfoil hattery. Second, America doesn't "belong" to any one racial or ethnic group. It consists of citizens, including whites, who have not been excluded in being part of the body politic or social fabric. You have a knack for wild generalizations. Third, whites have every liberty to form their own groups. It is just that not all white people are on board with the groups that YOU want to form or be part of. Which is their freedom of association to oppose.

    "and especially whites who don’t hate themselves?"

    In your world, whites hate themselves only if they do not conform to your belief system. Which, if you truly think about it, is ridiculous. White Americans are not monolithic. They belong to a number of groups, and love their membership in those groups. They need not be virtue signaled to death by your insistence that they only love themselves if they look out for all whites.

    "How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that’s a righteous and noble hate and bigotry."

    Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture. Again, do whites have the freedom of association to choose to include non-whites in their groups, and to marry and procreate with those groups? Why or why not?

    "If you put your thinking cap on you’d see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites."

    It is a matter of economics here, not race. Upper-class people want to live in nice places, regardless of race or ethnicity. That is their liberty. It is reasonable and sensible for well-off folks to live in well-off places next to people who are also well-off. Again, it's about finances. Moreover, white people who live in such areas interact with non-whites on a day to day basis, whether it be at work or at play. You either don't see it, or if you do see it, you don't want to see it.

    "Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that’s what you all wish then more power to you and them if you’re really true believers in the cult of “muh diversity”."

    There is no cult here of diversity, just people from different races and ethnicities who choose to interact with one another. That is called being human.

    Now, regarding Detroit, there are a host of reasons for the downfall of that city other than racial matters. Would you like to know more, citizen, and become educated on the matter?

    According to what your crystal ball? I’ll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people."

    Your people are white Americans, which includes me.

    "I’d venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history."

    That is all fantasy, my friend. If there is this invasion that already has taken place in the States, and whites are about to become extinct, you choosing not to lift a finger now to do something about it tells me everything I need to know.

    ” … whites have every liberty to form their own groups. ”

    Not really. If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group. Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer’s cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.

    “Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture.”

    I will assume you’re being sincere: Apparently, you don’t follow trends. The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.

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    The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint
     
    if you're a Brit or Swede who thinks England or Sweden have a right to maintain their ethnic and/or cultural character, then from every orifice of the hive comes the screeching of 'Nazis! and 'white supremacists!!!!'

    "RACISTS!!!'

    if you're a white American who thinks Affirmative Action is wrong and racist and unfair, well then brace yourself for the orgy of hatred and screeching, 'white supremacists!!!'

    and it goes beyond race now even to include 'hateful constructs of the patriarchy'; like gender.

    that it's all prima facie insane, doesn't get in the way of they're screeching and hysterics.

    And even here on the Unz Review, there are people who would say that any desire of white Americans to maintain any shred of their (white = racist) culture or heritage, are nothing more than vile "white supremacists", who must be hounded and harangued for the crime of not hating their own kind (with the kind of visceral, rancorous race-hatred that they hate white people with ; )

    We live in a surreal idiocracy, where the most preposterous idiocies are given credence as if they were anything but the gibbering's of a drooling lunatic.

    All you have to do is realize they want what you have. White people have created amazing civilizations in Europe and N. America and elsewhere, and it's only natural that everyone else would want such things for themselves. Duh.

    But where it gets beyond ludicrous/obnoxious is when they demand white people have no right to even exist. Which is their mantra today, because they aren't laughed out of the room, as they obviously should be.
    , @Corvinus
    "If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group."

    Yet, despite SJW machinations, those whites have the freedom to form their own in-group. It doesn't mean they are free from outside pressure. Besides, any group is "stigmatized" by their ideological opponents, so that argument goes out the door.

    "Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer’s cavalcade of gay Nazi camp."

    Spencer's group is indeed serious. See, you just stigmatized his merry band, yet they still remain steadfast in their desire to gain footing in their community.

    “Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture.”

    "I will assume you’re being sincere: Apparently, you don’t follow trends."

    The trend is that the Coalition of the Fringes, Right and Left, write a narrative that normies find over-the-top.

    "The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization."

    A societal mantra as dictated by radical white liberals, not whites in general. In similar fashion, the Alt Right demands that whites accept "race realism", lest they be labeled "race traitors" and summarily labeled as "enemies".

    Works both ways here.
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  • @Miro23

    Thus, the way I see it (based on his opinion and the various comments I see from Sunni Muslims); the fighting needs should stop as soon as it can and a political solution needs to be arrived at with the major players at the table; including people who have a serious stake in the matter like Iran, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, etc.
     
    Thanks for your informed opinion. These things are not so clear looking from the outside, and Western reporting seems to be mostly useless.

    So the problem are the Israelis/US/Saudis who are pushing wars more than the Sunnis or Shias themselves.

    So the problem are the Israelis/US/Saudis who are pushing wars more than the Sunnis or Shias themselves.

    I would certainly say so. The average Sunni and Shiah get along OK – we’re not super chummy; they have their mosques and we have ours and we usually don’t pray behind each other – this is unlike say the various Sunni schools that may have slight variations in prayer, but make it a point to pray behind each other. It’s really only the takfiris that want to kill Shiah (as well as plenty of Sunnis they consider deviant). I had friends in UCLA who were Shiah, still do even though I consider myself as Orthodox Sunni as they come and believe Shiah positions are heterodox (and they reciprocate).

    This whole thing was really kicked off with the invasion of Iraq and the forces it unleashed. In times of desperation, war, crisis etc. some of the worst elements of society come out and this is simply part of human nature.

    Take for instance the break up of Yugoslavia. Let’s put the Muslims aside for a bit. In that conflict, once civil order broke down; Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats committed war crimes against each other’s populations. Things were going fine for a good long while, but this brought divisions, that most people really hadn’t cared about, to a crescendo.

    Another good example before this whole mess is the Armenia-Azerbaijan war in the 90′s. Azerbaijan is almost 90% Shiah, but plenty of Sunni volunteers went to fight on their side.

    There is little doubt in my head that much of this would simply not have occurred without the external interference. That doesn’t mean that, naively, everything was fine and dandy – rather external forces were the catalyst for the mess we see today.

    Peace.

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  • @Rurik

    holocaust’ scam
     
    everyone who denies the Holy Holocaust - when the most evil people that ever lived tried to murder God Himself (the Jewish people) are as bad as the Nazis in Hungary who demand to remain Nazis, who refuse to do what they must - blend their Nazi genes away in a sea of homogenizing humanity.

    We are all humans, but some humans, (Nazis like the Hungarians) want to preserve their unique Nazi ethnic identity. This is where George Soros comes in, and flings open the gates to the Nazi kingdom, to a purifying wave of African migrants and gypsies and Muslims and everyone else they can get, who in time, will blend away the vile identity of Hungary's (and Germany's and Norway's and France's) Nazis, and save God's people from the next time Hitler wants to make soap and lampshades.

    ” … to a purifying wave of African migrants … ”

    should be

    ” … to a putrefying wave of African migrants … ”

    that’s more accurate.

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  • @Miro23

    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren’t exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy.
     
    Who was looting who? As background, my view is that aristocracies have to earn their position a national leaders. Early on it was quite straightforward, and usually on the battlefield, for example John Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough:

    His leadership of the allied armies consolidated Britain's emergence as a front-rank power. He successfully maintained unity among the allies, thereby demonstrating his diplomatic skills. Throughout ten consecutive campaigns during the Spanish Succession war, Marlborough held together a discordant coalition through his sheer force of personality and raised the standing of British arms to a level not known since the Middle Ages. Although in the end he could not compel total capitulation from his enemies, his victories allowed Britain to rise from a minor to a major power, ensuring the country's growing prosperity throughout the 18th century.

    Wikipedia.
     
    But by the "Belle Epoque" 1871-1914 European aristocracies were a useless decadent elite.

    I would connect the rise in power of the commercial middle classes and industrialists to the Industrial Revolution. They were contributing more and wanted political power, and they got it through their money and democracy (actually allied with the old aristocracy) with the downside of the not so welcome growth of a politically aware working class.

    For me this was the start of a classic problem that still hasn't been resolved. The commercial and industrial elite should be the new aristocracy on grounds of wealth, power and influence, but they are motivated by the desire for private profit and will manipulate the state to enrich themselves. Classic 21st century USA.

    The French revolution set the scene, and was somewhat earlier 1789 - 1799, but it's a fact that all French non-aristocratic classes were exploited and oppressed through excessive taxation - and I would accept the consensus that this triggered the revolution.

    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.

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    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.
     
    Agreed. Treachery seemed to run in the Churchill family.
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  • @Talha

    How do regular Sunnis see this? A success, a failure or what?
     
    I cannot arrogate myself to speak on behalf of all Sunnis. I can only speak of the ones I am most familiar with - traditional ones and even more moderate minded ones are not happy with Saudi, that's being generous. Saudi has not only helped destroy Syria but has caused a humanitarian crisis in Yemen.

    That said, I don't know of a single Sunni in my circle who likes the Assad regime. Many of them, like myself feel his saving grace is that the people who would replace him after the civil war are even worse.

    My personal go to person on these matters is Shaykh Muhammad Yaqoubi who is a traditional scholar (and Sufi shaykh) in exile in Moroccco. He is very out-spoken about the damage done by Saudis to the Muslim world, yet is also against the Assad regime. He spoke out against the regime early on and had to leave the country, however - as early as 2015 he was stating publicly; " continuing the fight is no longer in the interest of Syrians."

    Thus, the way I see it (based on his opinion and the various comments I see from Sunni Muslims); the fighting needs should stop as soon as it can and a political solution needs to be arrived at with the major players at the table; including people who have a serious stake in the matter like Iran, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, etc.

    Peace.

    Thus, the way I see it (based on his opinion and the various comments I see from Sunni Muslims); the fighting needs should stop as soon as it can and a political solution needs to be arrived at with the major players at the table; including people who have a serious stake in the matter like Iran, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, etc.

    Thanks for your informed opinion. These things are not so clear looking from the outside, and Western reporting seems to be mostly useless.

    So the problem are the Israelis/US/Saudis who are pushing wars more than the Sunnis or Shias themselves.

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    So the problem are the Israelis/US/Saudis who are pushing wars more than the Sunnis or Shias themselves.
     
    I would certainly say so. The average Sunni and Shiah get along OK - we're not super chummy; they have their mosques and we have ours and we usually don't pray behind each other - this is unlike say the various Sunni schools that may have slight variations in prayer, but make it a point to pray behind each other. It's really only the takfiris that want to kill Shiah (as well as plenty of Sunnis they consider deviant). I had friends in UCLA who were Shiah, still do even though I consider myself as Orthodox Sunni as they come and believe Shiah positions are heterodox (and they reciprocate).

    This whole thing was really kicked off with the invasion of Iraq and the forces it unleashed. In times of desperation, war, crisis etc. some of the worst elements of society come out and this is simply part of human nature.

    Take for instance the break up of Yugoslavia. Let's put the Muslims aside for a bit. In that conflict, once civil order broke down; Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats committed war crimes against each other's populations. Things were going fine for a good long while, but this brought divisions, that most people really hadn't cared about, to a crescendo.

    Another good example before this whole mess is the Armenia-Azerbaijan war in the 90's. Azerbaijan is almost 90% Shiah, but plenty of Sunni volunteers went to fight on their side.

    There is little doubt in my head that much of this would simply not have occurred without the external interference. That doesn't mean that, naively, everything was fine and dandy - rather external forces were the catalyst for the mess we see today.

    Peace.
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  • How do regular Sunnis see this? A success, a failure or what?

    I cannot arrogate myself to speak on behalf of all Sunnis. I can only speak of the ones I am most familiar with – traditional ones and even more moderate minded ones are not happy with Saudi, that’s being generous. Saudi has not only helped destroy Syria but has caused a humanitarian crisis in Yemen.

    That said, I don’t know of a single Sunni in my circle who likes the Assad regime. Many of them, like myself feel his saving grace is that the people who would replace him after the civil war are even worse.

    My personal go to person on these matters is Shaykh Muhammad Yaqoubi who is a traditional scholar (and Sufi shaykh) in exile in Moroccco. He is very out-spoken about the damage done by Saudis to the Muslim world, yet is also against the Assad regime. He spoke out against the regime early on and had to leave the country, however – as early as 2015 he was stating publicly; ” continuing the fight is no longer in the interest of Syrians.”

    Thus, the way I see it (based on his opinion and the various comments I see from Sunni Muslims); the fighting needs should stop as soon as it can and a political solution needs to be arrived at with the major players at the table; including people who have a serious stake in the matter like Iran, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, etc.

    Peace.

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    Thus, the way I see it (based on his opinion and the various comments I see from Sunni Muslims); the fighting needs should stop as soon as it can and a political solution needs to be arrived at with the major players at the table; including people who have a serious stake in the matter like Iran, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Jordan, etc.
     
    Thanks for your informed opinion. These things are not so clear looking from the outside, and Western reporting seems to be mostly useless.

    So the problem are the Israelis/US/Saudis who are pushing wars more than the Sunnis or Shias themselves.
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  • @KenH

    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right’s jackboots of nationalism for only white people?
     
    And how about the left's jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites and especially whites who don't hate themselves? How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that's a righteous and noble hate and bigotry.

    Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being “their own people” and “one of them”?
     
    If you put your thinking cap on you'd see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites. Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that's what you all wish then more power to you and them if you're really true believers in the cult of "muh diversity".

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.
     
    According to what your crystal ball? I'll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people. I don't need to beat my chest and act tough or tell you what my plans are. I'd venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says “as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people”.
     
    Are you auditioning for the late Rev. Billy Graham's job?

    “And how about the left’s jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites…”

    Which is patently false. First, you are absolutely misapplying the concept “fascism” here, which means “a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce.” The United States is not a fascist government, contrary to your tinfoil hattery. Second, America doesn’t “belong” to any one racial or ethnic group. It consists of citizens, including whites, who have not been excluded in being part of the body politic or social fabric. You have a knack for wild generalizations. Third, whites have every liberty to form their own groups. It is just that not all white people are on board with the groups that YOU want to form or be part of. Which is their freedom of association to oppose.

    “and especially whites who don’t hate themselves?”

    In your world, whites hate themselves only if they do not conform to your belief system. Which, if you truly think about it, is ridiculous. White Americans are not monolithic. They belong to a number of groups, and love their membership in those groups. They need not be virtue signaled to death by your insistence that they only love themselves if they look out for all whites.

    “How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that’s a righteous and noble hate and bigotry.”

    Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture. Again, do whites have the freedom of association to choose to include non-whites in their groups, and to marry and procreate with those groups? Why or why not?

    “If you put your thinking cap on you’d see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites.”

    It is a matter of economics here, not race. Upper-class people want to live in nice places, regardless of race or ethnicity. That is their liberty. It is reasonable and sensible for well-off folks to live in well-off places next to people who are also well-off. Again, it’s about finances. Moreover, white people who live in such areas interact with non-whites on a day to day basis, whether it be at work or at play. You either don’t see it, or if you do see it, you don’t want to see it.

    “Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that’s what you all wish then more power to you and them if you’re really true believers in the cult of “muh diversity”.”

    There is no cult here of diversity, just people from different races and ethnicities who choose to interact with one another. That is called being human.

    Now, regarding Detroit, there are a host of reasons for the downfall of that city other than racial matters. Would you like to know more, citizen, and become educated on the matter?

    According to what your crystal ball? I’ll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people.”

    Your people are white Americans, which includes me.

    “I’d venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history.”

    That is all fantasy, my friend. If there is this invasion that already has taken place in the States, and whites are about to become extinct, you choosing not to lift a finger now to do something about it tells me everything I need to know.

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    " ... whites have every liberty to form their own groups. "

    Not really. If a group of whites publicly professed in-group preference and wanted to coalesce around identitarian issues, white sjw Stalinists would move quickly, primarily on social media, to stigmatize such a group. Especially if said group was more serious than Richard Spencer's cavalcade of gay Nazi camp.

    "Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture."

    I will assume you're being sincere: Apparently, you don't follow trends. The societal mantra, especially for whites, is to accept enforced diversity without complaint or be doxxed, which will be followed by economic marginalization.
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  • @dfordoom

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.
     
    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren't exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy. The poor old huddled masses usually weren't consulted and were either exploited by the revolutionaries or were hostile to the revolution.

    It's usually not the genuinely downtrodden who revolt. It's usually a rising new elite trying to displace the old elite.

    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren’t exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy.

    Who was looting who? As background, my view is that aristocracies have to earn their position a national leaders. Early on it was quite straightforward, and usually on the battlefield, for example John Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough:

    His leadership of the allied armies consolidated Britain’s emergence as a front-rank power. He successfully maintained unity among the allies, thereby demonstrating his diplomatic skills. Throughout ten consecutive campaigns during the Spanish Succession war, Marlborough held together a discordant coalition through his sheer force of personality and raised the standing of British arms to a level not known since the Middle Ages. Although in the end he could not compel total capitulation from his enemies, his victories allowed Britain to rise from a minor to a major power, ensuring the country’s growing prosperity throughout the 18th century.

    Wikipedia.

    But by the “Belle Epoque” 1871-1914 European aristocracies were a useless decadent elite.

    I would connect the rise in power of the commercial middle classes and industrialists to the Industrial Revolution. They were contributing more and wanted political power, and they got it through their money and democracy (actually allied with the old aristocracy) with the downside of the not so welcome growth of a politically aware working class.

    For me this was the start of a classic problem that still hasn’t been resolved. The commercial and industrial elite should be the new aristocracy on grounds of wealth, power and influence, but they are motivated by the desire for private profit and will manipulate the state to enrich themselves. Classic 21st century USA.

    The French revolution set the scene, and was somewhat earlier 1789 – 1799, but it’s a fact that all French non-aristocratic classes were exploited and oppressed through excessive taxation – and I would accept the consensus that this triggered the revolution.

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    Churchill of Marlborough was a snake. A remarkably talented snake, but still a snake.
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  • @Miro23
    A good analysis. Unfortunately there's a natural tendency for formation of elites who use state power to protect their elite status. Democracy has to guard very carefully against this.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative. For example, European aristocracies grew out of out of legitimate military leadership, but morphed into a decadent crowd concerned with the good life, hunting and ballrooms - with the Russian aristocracy prior to the Revolution being a classic example (check out Pushkin's world).

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.

    The US is no different. It has a protected elite that have their own rules, and economic inequality that exceeds the British or Russian aristocracies at their peak. They even use the same phrase as the French Ancien Régime when referring to the great unwashed (Les Déplorables).

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.

    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren’t exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy. The poor old huddled masses usually weren’t consulted and were either exploited by the revolutionaries or were hostile to the revolution.

    It’s usually not the genuinely downtrodden who revolt. It’s usually a rising new elite trying to displace the old elite.

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    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren’t exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy.
     
    Who was looting who? As background, my view is that aristocracies have to earn their position a national leaders. Early on it was quite straightforward, and usually on the battlefield, for example John Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough:

    His leadership of the allied armies consolidated Britain's emergence as a front-rank power. He successfully maintained unity among the allies, thereby demonstrating his diplomatic skills. Throughout ten consecutive campaigns during the Spanish Succession war, Marlborough held together a discordant coalition through his sheer force of personality and raised the standing of British arms to a level not known since the Middle Ages. Although in the end he could not compel total capitulation from his enemies, his victories allowed Britain to rise from a minor to a major power, ensuring the country's growing prosperity throughout the 18th century.

    Wikipedia.
     
    But by the "Belle Epoque" 1871-1914 European aristocracies were a useless decadent elite.

    I would connect the rise in power of the commercial middle classes and industrialists to the Industrial Revolution. They were contributing more and wanted political power, and they got it through their money and democracy (actually allied with the old aristocracy) with the downside of the not so welcome growth of a politically aware working class.

    For me this was the start of a classic problem that still hasn't been resolved. The commercial and industrial elite should be the new aristocracy on grounds of wealth, power and influence, but they are motivated by the desire for private profit and will manipulate the state to enrich themselves. Classic 21st century USA.

    The French revolution set the scene, and was somewhat earlier 1789 - 1799, but it's a fact that all French non-aristocratic classes were exploited and oppressed through excessive taxation - and I would accept the consensus that this triggered the revolution.
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  • @Mario Partisan
    First, like you, I have described myself as a recovering leftist. Second, I’m not responding for the purpose of fighting, but rather to discuss and maybe to learn.

    You disagree with me that the French revolution was nationalistic. I will admit: I’m not an authority on the French revolution and could stand to read more about it. However, from what I understand, “Citizen” was a common way for people to address each other during the revolution. It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

    Was it not the revolution that transformed the French people from subjects of the king into citizens of the nation? It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.

    You say that the revolution was the first step in the globalist agenda. In hindsight, the revolution may have been a step towards a global order, but I don’t think that was a planned outcome.

    If you go back in history, you find man living in small clans consisting of a handful of people who are closely related to each other. At some point, man progressed towards a higher level of social interaction. Was that progression part of the globalist agenda? No, of course it wasn’t. It seems to me that much of human social evolution consists of a natural widening of the sphere of human interaction, from clan, to tribe, to city-state, to nation-state…

    The creation of nations is the result of expanded means of transportation, and of communication, which bring people of different regions into increased contact with one another, and thus create the basis for common language, traditions, and identity on a greater geographical scale than was previously possible. Revolutions like the French revolution formalized into law what had already been made possible by changes in the material base of society, and were the last step in creating nations of citizens. In that sense, they were nationalistic.

    Once a nation has come together, you have a united entity that is capable of interacting with other united entities, can trade, form alliances, sign treaties, etc. Meanwhile, the means of transportation and communication continue to advance, bringing nations into increased contact with one another. The birth of nations was a step towards the birth of a global order. What you characterize as the globalist program of the French revolutionaries is likely natural human social evolution. Yes, nationalism and internationalism are distinct ideologically; but historically, they are just links in an evolutionary chain, with the latter standing on the shoulders of the former.

    Finally, you say the revolution was imperialist. In a way, you are correct. It was after the revolution that Napoleon came to power, declared himself emperor, and began the conquest of other countries. But I don’t know that this was the original agenda of the revolutionaries. It may be that empire was forced on the French. The French revolution was a radical departure from the political forms that Europe had inherited from medieval times. It is likely that “all the powers of old Europe had entered into a holy alliance” to suppress the revolution. The French revolution did not have the benefit of two huge oceans separating itself from its enemies; the enemies were at the border. Maybe it was a case of export or die.

    While it may appear that I am endorsing globalism here, there is a difference between organic internationalism on the one hand, and forced globalism, with its manufactured identity politics, on the other. One is ground up and natural, the other top down and artificial. I think what I said in my previous post above still stands. The world is not a simple place. Our minds reflect reality, and if my thoughts appear somewhat contradictory, it is because the world we live in is contradictory.

    Cheers.

    It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

    Ah, that’s where we differ. I see the concept of citizenship as being fundamentally hostile to nationalism. But then I’m instinctively a blood-and-soil kind of nationalist.

    To my way of thinking both the French and American Revolutions were anti-nationalist. Both were infected, fatally, by universalist ideas.

    It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.

    There again our perspectives differ. To me a nation is a gigantic feudal manor – a web of mutual duties and responsibilities. I can’t see how democratic nationalism can exist in the long term.

    Maybe it was a case of export or die.

    I think that’s the nature of revolution.

    I can see where you’re coming from and I appreciate your courteous reply. It’s just a matter of totally different perspectives. I see stability and order as being more important than progress and growth.

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  • @Miro23
    A good analysis. Unfortunately there's a natural tendency for formation of elites who use state power to protect their elite status. Democracy has to guard very carefully against this.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative. For example, European aristocracies grew out of out of legitimate military leadership, but morphed into a decadent crowd concerned with the good life, hunting and ballrooms - with the Russian aristocracy prior to the Revolution being a classic example (check out Pushkin's world).

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.

    The US is no different. It has a protected elite that have their own rules, and economic inequality that exceeds the British or Russian aristocracies at their peak. They even use the same phrase as the French Ancien Régime when referring to the great unwashed (Les Déplorables).

    Thanks for the compliment.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative.

    Agree. That’s why Jefferson said “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

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  • @geokat62

    Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck.
     
    Give it up, already.

    The data are in... and the results are overwhelming. The ADL's Diversity Is Our Strength meme has been completely debunked. Don't believe me? Just look at what is transpiring in the Rainbow Nation, where the black majority leaders are inciting their people to "shoot to kill" the remaining white farmers. Or, better yet, see how warmly Diversity is being embraced by the ADL's pet project, the Jewish state, where virtually no one can become a citizen, unless they are Jewish.

    While the nationalism of the past admittedly may have had its ugly side, it is making a comeback for a reason. With each passing day, more and more of The Dumb Goyim are snapping out of the cultural Marxist spell that Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck and are starting to realize that the future is looking very dim for themselves and their offspring. And, truth to told, all the diversity training in the world cannot remedy this situation.

    No, as As Orwell predicted, there will always be someone's boot on our neck. That said, if I were Hungarian, I'd rather have Orban's boot on my neck than Soros'.

    More than 600,000 white English people have left London in the last 20 or so years, and now we have an epidemic of acid attacks and stabbings taking place in that city. According to the leftits and liberal establishment, things would only get better when white people left, especially the white working and lower middle classes. (I guess they are still figuring out a way to blame white people.)

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  • @Talha
    Ah OK - both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.

    Peace.

    OT but I was wondering about the Sunni – Shia divide. It’s the Shias who are facing off against the US/Israel and defending Lebanon, while the Sunni leadership of Saudi Arabia ally with Israel/US/ ISIS + support the “regime change” projects.

    How do regular Sunnis see this? A success, a failure or what?

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  • @Corvinus
    "Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive."

    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right's jackboots of nationalism for only white people? Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being "their own people" and "one of them"?

    Some would argue that we are heading to a civil war. Assuming it occurs by 2033, are you prepared to join the front lines, or remain in the back as an armchair warrior if and when the shooting starts? Are you prepared to curb stomp little boys and girls, many of them white, merely because you pay homage to this "pro-white Caesar"?

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says "as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people".

    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right’s jackboots of nationalism for only white people?

    And how about the left’s jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites and especially whites who don’t hate themselves? How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that’s a righteous and noble hate and bigotry.

    Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being “their own people” and “one of them”?

    If you put your thinking cap on you’d see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites. Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that’s what you all wish then more power to you and them if you’re really true believers in the cult of “muh diversity”.

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.

    According to what your crystal ball? I’ll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people. I don’t need to beat my chest and act tough or tell you what my plans are. I’d venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says “as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people”.

    Are you auditioning for the late Rev. Billy Graham’s job?

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    "And how about the left’s jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites..."

    Which is patently false. First, you are absolutely misapplying the concept "fascism" here, which means "a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce." The United States is not a fascist government, contrary to your tinfoil hattery. Second, America doesn't "belong" to any one racial or ethnic group. It consists of citizens, including whites, who have not been excluded in being part of the body politic or social fabric. You have a knack for wild generalizations. Third, whites have every liberty to form their own groups. It is just that not all white people are on board with the groups that YOU want to form or be part of. Which is their freedom of association to oppose.

    "and especially whites who don’t hate themselves?"

    In your world, whites hate themselves only if they do not conform to your belief system. Which, if you truly think about it, is ridiculous. White Americans are not monolithic. They belong to a number of groups, and love their membership in those groups. They need not be virtue signaled to death by your insistence that they only love themselves if they look out for all whites.

    "How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that’s a righteous and noble hate and bigotry."

    Because it is not bigotry for white people to make their own decisions about race and culture. Again, do whites have the freedom of association to choose to include non-whites in their groups, and to marry and procreate with those groups? Why or why not?

    "If you put your thinking cap on you’d see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites."

    It is a matter of economics here, not race. Upper-class people want to live in nice places, regardless of race or ethnicity. That is their liberty. It is reasonable and sensible for well-off folks to live in well-off places next to people who are also well-off. Again, it's about finances. Moreover, white people who live in such areas interact with non-whites on a day to day basis, whether it be at work or at play. You either don't see it, or if you do see it, you don't want to see it.

    "Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that’s what you all wish then more power to you and them if you’re really true believers in the cult of “muh diversity”."

    There is no cult here of diversity, just people from different races and ethnicities who choose to interact with one another. That is called being human.

    Now, regarding Detroit, there are a host of reasons for the downfall of that city other than racial matters. Would you like to know more, citizen, and become educated on the matter?

    According to what your crystal ball? I’ll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people."

    Your people are white Americans, which includes me.

    "I’d venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history."

    That is all fantasy, my friend. If there is this invasion that already has taken place in the States, and whites are about to become extinct, you choosing not to lift a finger now to do something about it tells me everything I need to know.
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  • @KenH

    Ah OK – both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.
     
    Do you know something about Orban and Hungary the rest of us don't in regards to Israel? I do know that Israel was an ally of white S. Africa but did nothing to protect it from machinations by S. African and American Jewry which resulted in the imposition of black rule on the white minority.

    So if Jewry decides that Hungary must be diversified via the Afro-Islamic invasion don't expect Bibi or any other Israeli prime minister to object.

    Do you know something about Orban and Hungary the rest of us don’t in regards to Israel?

    Nope – which is why what you stated makes sense. Both sides are trying to play each other for whatever benefits that construes on the global stage.

    Peace.

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  • @Mario Partisan
    First, like you, I have described myself as a recovering leftist. Second, I’m not responding for the purpose of fighting, but rather to discuss and maybe to learn.

    You disagree with me that the French revolution was nationalistic. I will admit: I’m not an authority on the French revolution and could stand to read more about it. However, from what I understand, “Citizen” was a common way for people to address each other during the revolution. It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

    Was it not the revolution that transformed the French people from subjects of the king into citizens of the nation? It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.

    You say that the revolution was the first step in the globalist agenda. In hindsight, the revolution may have been a step towards a global order, but I don’t think that was a planned outcome.

    If you go back in history, you find man living in small clans consisting of a handful of people who are closely related to each other. At some point, man progressed towards a higher level of social interaction. Was that progression part of the globalist agenda? No, of course it wasn’t. It seems to me that much of human social evolution consists of a natural widening of the sphere of human interaction, from clan, to tribe, to city-state, to nation-state…

    The creation of nations is the result of expanded means of transportation, and of communication, which bring people of different regions into increased contact with one another, and thus create the basis for common language, traditions, and identity on a greater geographical scale than was previously possible. Revolutions like the French revolution formalized into law what had already been made possible by changes in the material base of society, and were the last step in creating nations of citizens. In that sense, they were nationalistic.

    Once a nation has come together, you have a united entity that is capable of interacting with other united entities, can trade, form alliances, sign treaties, etc. Meanwhile, the means of transportation and communication continue to advance, bringing nations into increased contact with one another. The birth of nations was a step towards the birth of a global order. What you characterize as the globalist program of the French revolutionaries is likely natural human social evolution. Yes, nationalism and internationalism are distinct ideologically; but historically, they are just links in an evolutionary chain, with the latter standing on the shoulders of the former.

    Finally, you say the revolution was imperialist. In a way, you are correct. It was after the revolution that Napoleon came to power, declared himself emperor, and began the conquest of other countries. But I don’t know that this was the original agenda of the revolutionaries. It may be that empire was forced on the French. The French revolution was a radical departure from the political forms that Europe had inherited from medieval times. It is likely that “all the powers of old Europe had entered into a holy alliance” to suppress the revolution. The French revolution did not have the benefit of two huge oceans separating itself from its enemies; the enemies were at the border. Maybe it was a case of export or die.

    While it may appear that I am endorsing globalism here, there is a difference between organic internationalism on the one hand, and forced globalism, with its manufactured identity politics, on the other. One is ground up and natural, the other top down and artificial. I think what I said in my previous post above still stands. The world is not a simple place. Our minds reflect reality, and if my thoughts appear somewhat contradictory, it is because the world we live in is contradictory.

    Cheers.

    A good analysis. Unfortunately there’s a natural tendency for formation of elites who use state power to protect their elite status. Democracy has to guard very carefully against this.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative. For example, European aristocracies grew out of out of legitimate military leadership, but morphed into a decadent crowd concerned with the good life, hunting and ballrooms – with the Russian aristocracy prior to the Revolution being a classic example (check out Pushkin’s world).

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.

    The US is no different. It has a protected elite that have their own rules, and economic inequality that exceeds the British or Russian aristocracies at their peak. They even use the same phrase as the French Ancien Régime when referring to the great unwashed (Les Déplorables).

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    Thanks for the compliment.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative.

     

    Agree. That’s why Jefferson said “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
    , @dfordoom

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.
     
    I think you may be making the mistake of seeing the French Revolution as a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. Most of the revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries were uprisings of the increasingly powerful and wealthy middle classes who weren't exploited or oppressed but who saw the chance of looting the aristocracy. The poor old huddled masses usually weren't consulted and were either exploited by the revolutionaries or were hostile to the revolution.

    It's usually not the genuinely downtrodden who revolt. It's usually a rising new elite trying to displace the old elite.
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  • @Talha
    Ah OK - both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.

    Peace.

    Ah OK – both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.

    Do you know something about Orban and Hungary the rest of us don’t in regards to Israel? I do know that Israel was an ally of white S. Africa but did nothing to protect it from machinations by S. African and American Jewry which resulted in the imposition of black rule on the white minority.

    So if Jewry decides that Hungary must be diversified via the Afro-Islamic invasion don’t expect Bibi or any other Israeli prime minister to object.

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    Do you know something about Orban and Hungary the rest of us don’t in regards to Israel?
     
    Nope - which is why what you stated makes sense. Both sides are trying to play each other for whatever benefits that construes on the global stage.

    Peace.
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  • @dfordoom

    However, if my understanding is correct, nationalism and democracy used to go hand-in-hand. Whatever you think of it, the French Revolution is an example of this. The revolution counterpoised the aristocracy to the people of France who were to be Citizens of the nation on the basis of their French nationality. The French revolution was both democratic and nationalist.
     
    The French Revolution was internationalist and imperialist. It was the first step in the globalist program. It was also the first step in the destruction of France as a nation.

    First, like you, I have described myself as a recovering leftist. Second, I’m not responding for the purpose of fighting, but rather to discuss and maybe to learn.

    You disagree with me that the French revolution was nationalistic. I will admit: I’m not an authority on the French revolution and could stand to read more about it. However, from what I understand, “Citizen” was a common way for people to address each other during the revolution. It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

    Was it not the revolution that transformed the French people from subjects of the king into citizens of the nation? It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.

    You say that the revolution was the first step in the globalist agenda. In hindsight, the revolution may have been a step towards a global order, but I don’t think that was a planned outcome.

    If you go back in history, you find man living in small clans consisting of a handful of people who are closely related to each other. At some point, man progressed towards a higher level of social interaction. Was that progression part of the globalist agenda? No, of course it wasn’t. It seems to me that much of human social evolution consists of a natural widening of the sphere of human interaction, from clan, to tribe, to city-state, to nation-state…

    The creation of nations is the result of expanded means of transportation, and of communication, which bring people of different regions into increased contact with one another, and thus create the basis for common language, traditions, and identity on a greater geographical scale than was previously possible. Revolutions like the French revolution formalized into law what had already been made possible by changes in the material base of society, and were the last step in creating nations of citizens. In that sense, they were nationalistic.

    Once a nation has come together, you have a united entity that is capable of interacting with other united entities, can trade, form alliances, sign treaties, etc. Meanwhile, the means of transportation and communication continue to advance, bringing nations into increased contact with one another. The birth of nations was a step towards the birth of a global order. What you characterize as the globalist program of the French revolutionaries is likely natural human social evolution. Yes, nationalism and internationalism are distinct ideologically; but historically, they are just links in an evolutionary chain, with the latter standing on the shoulders of the former.

    Finally, you say the revolution was imperialist. In a way, you are correct. It was after the revolution that Napoleon came to power, declared himself emperor, and began the conquest of other countries. But I don’t know that this was the original agenda of the revolutionaries. It may be that empire was forced on the French. The French revolution was a radical departure from the political forms that Europe had inherited from medieval times. It is likely that “all the powers of old Europe had entered into a holy alliance” to suppress the revolution. The French revolution did not have the benefit of two huge oceans separating itself from its enemies; the enemies were at the border. Maybe it was a case of export or die.

    While it may appear that I am endorsing globalism here, there is a difference between organic internationalism on the one hand, and forced globalism, with its manufactured identity politics, on the other. One is ground up and natural, the other top down and artificial. I think what I said in my previous post above still stands. The world is not a simple place. Our minds reflect reality, and if my thoughts appear somewhat contradictory, it is because the world we live in is contradictory.

    Cheers.

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    A good analysis. Unfortunately there's a natural tendency for formation of elites who use state power to protect their elite status. Democracy has to guard very carefully against this.

    Also, over time, elites tend to become decadent end exploitative. For example, European aristocracies grew out of out of legitimate military leadership, but morphed into a decadent crowd concerned with the good life, hunting and ballrooms - with the Russian aristocracy prior to the Revolution being a classic example (check out Pushkin's world).

    In this context the French revolution was a reaction against excessive taxation and their exploitative aristocracy.

    The US is no different. It has a protected elite that have their own rules, and economic inequality that exceeds the British or Russian aristocracies at their peak. They even use the same phrase as the French Ancien Régime when referring to the great unwashed (Les Déplorables).

    , @dfordoom

    It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

     

    Ah, that's where we differ. I see the concept of citizenship as being fundamentally hostile to nationalism. But then I'm instinctively a blood-and-soil kind of nationalist.

    To my way of thinking both the French and American Revolutions were anti-nationalist. Both were infected, fatally, by universalist ideas.

    It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.
     
    There again our perspectives differ. To me a nation is a gigantic feudal manor - a web of mutual duties and responsibilities. I can't see how democratic nationalism can exist in the long term.

    Maybe it was a case of export or die.
     
    I think that's the nature of revolution.

    I can see where you're coming from and I appreciate your courteous reply. It's just a matter of totally different perspectives. I see stability and order as being more important than progress and growth.
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  • @Payne
    Wow. So Pat hates America and everything that it stands for.

    Where once America was the nation where "all men are created equal", now "equality" is something to be sneered at and despised. And then he throws in some cheap shots at the Bill of Rights as well.

    And of course, like anyone who hates freedom, he puts himself on the top. His race is superior. His beliefs are the right beliefs and everyone else is wrong.

    I disagree and argue with the Identity Politics types because they also hate freedom and liberty and want to overturn it and put themselves on top and their boot on everyone else's neck. Now Pat puts himself in that club as well. His only disagreement with the modern left is that they disagree on who's boot will be firmly on my neck.

    Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody's boot is on your neck. And yes, you do have to give up your own fantasies about having your boot on the necks of others, but the price is worth it. America, the land of the free, where all people are created equal. That's what I support.

    If Pat doesn't like America and all its stands for, he's free to leave.

    Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck.

    Give it up, already.

    The data are in… and the results are overwhelming. The ADL’s Diversity Is Our Strength meme has been completely debunked. Don’t believe me? Just look at what is transpiring in the Rainbow Nation, where the black majority leaders are inciting their people to “shoot to kill” the remaining white farmers. Or, better yet, see how warmly Diversity is being embraced by the ADL’s pet project, the Jewish state, where virtually no one can become a citizen, unless they are Jewish.

    While the nationalism of the past admittedly may have had its ugly side, it is making a comeback for a reason. With each passing day, more and more of The Dumb Goyim are snapping out of the cultural Marxist spell that Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck and are starting to realize that the future is looking very dim for themselves and their offspring. And, truth to told, all the diversity training in the world cannot remedy this situation.

    No, as As Orwell predicted, there will always be someone’s boot on our neck. That said, if I were Hungarian, I’d rather have Orban’s boot on my neck than Soros’.

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    More than 600,000 white English people have left London in the last 20 or so years, and now we have an epidemic of acid attacks and stabbings taking place in that city. According to the leftits and liberal establishment, things would only get better when white people left, especially the white working and lower middle classes. (I guess they are still figuring out a way to blame white people.)
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  • @KenH
    Democracy won't save the white, Western world. Ezra Pound said that democracy is a government run by Jews and nowhere is that more true than here in the U.S. It's suicidal for whites who aren't racial masochists to place their trust in a system that features the likes of Bernie Sanders, Mad Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Chuck U Schumer and too many others to mention.

    The Jewish strategy is to deny whites in their traditional homelands any safe havens from the scratching and clawing hordes of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. The other element is de facto disenfranchisement of politically incorrect whites which we saw at Charlottesville and in the aftermath which saw doxxing, deplatforming, arrest without bail, and widespread viewpoint discrimination on major social media platforms. "Our" (((government))) has outsourced tyranny of pro-white political dissidents to the private sector and local governments.

    Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive. Orban is the closest thing to that thus far and I wonder when the Jewish occupied government in Tel Aviv, D.C. will scream for regime change and Orban will find himself on the receiving end of a color revolution or worse.

    “Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive.”

    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right’s jackboots of nationalism for only white people? Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being “their own people” and “one of them”?

    Some would argue that we are heading to a civil war. Assuming it occurs by 2033, are you prepared to join the front lines, or remain in the back as an armchair warrior if and when the shooting starts? Are you prepared to curb stomp little boys and girls, many of them white, merely because you pay homage to this “pro-white Caesar”?

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says “as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people”.

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    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right’s jackboots of nationalism for only white people?
     
    And how about the left's jackbooted fascism that holds that America belongs to every racial group except whites and especially whites who don't hate themselves? How come you never speak out against that bigotry? Hint: because to you and other lefties that's a righteous and noble hate and bigotry.

    Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being “their own people” and “one of them”?
     
    If you put your thinking cap on you'd see that most of the diversity worshipping white and (((white))) leftists you look to for guidance live in whitetopias and rarely choose to associate with non-whites. Somehow I doubt most of these people will freely choose to live in the equivalent of Detroit or San Paulo, Brazil, but if that's what you all wish then more power to you and them if you're really true believers in the cult of "muh diversity".

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.
     
    According to what your crystal ball? I'll do what is necessary to protect me, my friends and family and my people. I don't need to beat my chest and act tough or tell you what my plans are. I'd venture that if and when that day ever comes the prospect of tens of thousands of heavily armed and pissed off white men will give you and other lefties the worst case of diarrhea in history.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says “as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people”.
     
    Are you auditioning for the late Rev. Billy Graham's job?
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  • @Captain Willard
    So, cutting through all the bullshit, Pat applauds the Magyars for invading from Asia, seizing "Hungary", expelling and repelling Ottomans, subduing Slovaks, outwitting Romanians and Austrians and finally overcoming Soros.

    Why doesn't he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice? Why does it have to be cloaked in nationalism to gain respectability? The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis.

    “Why doesn’t he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice?”

    Because that would require Saileresque noticing on his part. Besides, so long as it was the “good guys” who won, who cares about the aftermath?

    Take into account when Patricks says “Consider what else the “world’s oldest democracy” has lately had on offer to the indigenous peoples of Europe resisting an invasion of Third World settlers coming to occupy and repopulate their lands.”

    Were not the tribal groups of North and South America the “indigenous peoples” there, only to be ruthlessly displaced by foreigners? The irony and hypocrisy on his part is thick here.

    And then he has the audacity to say “…in 2042 when white European Christians are just another minority”. Indeed, that is how human history works. Dominant groups come and go by the wayside.

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  • @KenH
    World leaders congratulate each other over election victories all the time and it doesn't make them "good friends". Netanyahoo just likes to play the good cop Jew and I question his sincerity. Soros and other diaspora Jews will perform the dirty work of trying to undermine and marginalize Orban. I think Orban is shrewd enough to know where the red lines are when it comes to his own Jews and Israel and plays the game accordingly.

    Apparently most of Hungary's Jews don't even like or support Orban despite his philo-semitism:
    https://www.thejc.com/news/world/hungary-chief-rabbi-resigns-as-jews-consider-reaction-to-orb%C3%A1n-victory-1.462761
    "The vast majority of Hungarian Jewish opinion is against Fidesz, with those who supported Mr Orbán statistically insignificant."

    No matter how pro-Jewish or pro-Israel one is, Jews generally have a visceral reaction to a strong goy leader and tend to hear anti-semitic dog whistles with every utterance. Case in point is the candidacy and now presidency of Donald Trump.

    Ah OK – both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.

    Peace.

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    Ah OK – both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.
     
    Do you know something about Orban and Hungary the rest of us don't in regards to Israel? I do know that Israel was an ally of white S. Africa but did nothing to protect it from machinations by S. African and American Jewry which resulted in the imposition of black rule on the white minority.

    So if Jewry decides that Hungary must be diversified via the Afro-Islamic invasion don't expect Bibi or any other Israeli prime minister to object.

    , @Miro23
    OT but I was wondering about the Sunni - Shia divide. It's the Shias who are facing off against the US/Israel and defending Lebanon, while the Sunni leadership of Saudi Arabia ally with Israel/US/ ISIS + support the "regime change" projects.

    How do regular Sunnis see this? A success, a failure or what?
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  • Wow. So Pat hates America and everything that it stands for.

    Where once America was the nation where “all men are created equal”, now “equality” is something to be sneered at and despised. And then he throws in some cheap shots at the Bill of Rights as well.

    And of course, like anyone who hates freedom, he puts himself on the top. His race is superior. His beliefs are the right beliefs and everyone else is wrong.

    I disagree and argue with the Identity Politics types because they also hate freedom and liberty and want to overturn it and put themselves on top and their boot on everyone else’s neck. Now Pat puts himself in that club as well. His only disagreement with the modern left is that they disagree on who’s boot will be firmly on my neck.

    Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck. And yes, you do have to give up your own fantasies about having your boot on the necks of others, but the price is worth it. America, the land of the free, where all people are created equal. That’s what I support.

    If Pat doesn’t like America and all its stands for, he’s free to leave.

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    Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck.
     
    Give it up, already.

    The data are in... and the results are overwhelming. The ADL's Diversity Is Our Strength meme has been completely debunked. Don't believe me? Just look at what is transpiring in the Rainbow Nation, where the black majority leaders are inciting their people to "shoot to kill" the remaining white farmers. Or, better yet, see how warmly Diversity is being embraced by the ADL's pet project, the Jewish state, where virtually no one can become a citizen, unless they are Jewish.

    While the nationalism of the past admittedly may have had its ugly side, it is making a comeback for a reason. With each passing day, more and more of The Dumb Goyim are snapping out of the cultural Marxist spell that Liberty, Equality, and Freedom are guarantees that nobody’s boot is on your neck and are starting to realize that the future is looking very dim for themselves and their offspring. And, truth to told, all the diversity training in the world cannot remedy this situation.

    No, as As Orwell predicted, there will always be someone's boot on our neck. That said, if I were Hungarian, I'd rather have Orban's boot on my neck than Soros'.
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  • @Talha
    Why? They seems to be pretty good friends...
    “Netanyahu congratulates Orban on reelection, invites him to Israel
    After landslide poll victory for Hungarian leader, PM thanks him for supporting Israel in international forums”
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-congratulates-orban-on-reelection-invites-him-to-israel/

    Two peas in a pod...

    Peace.

    World leaders congratulate each other over election victories all the time and it doesn’t make them “good friends”. Netanyahoo just likes to play the good cop Jew and I question his sincerity. Soros and other diaspora Jews will perform the dirty work of trying to undermine and marginalize Orban. I think Orban is shrewd enough to know where the red lines are when it comes to his own Jews and Israel and plays the game accordingly.

    Apparently most of Hungary’s Jews don’t even like or support Orban despite his philo-semitism:

    https://www.thejc.com/news/world/hungary-chief-rabbi-resigns-as-jews-consider-reaction-to-orb%C3%A1n-victory-1.462761

    “The vast majority of Hungarian Jewish opinion is against Fidesz, with those who supported Mr Orbán statistically insignificant.”

    No matter how pro-Jewish or pro-Israel one is, Jews generally have a visceral reaction to a strong goy leader and tend to hear anti-semitic dog whistles with every utterance. Case in point is the candidacy and now presidency of Donald Trump.

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    Ah OK - both are trying to play each other, I get it. Sounds like the developing relationship between the Saudis and Israel.

    Peace.
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  • @Thirdeye

    Recall: Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.
     
    Wrong.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

    And Hitler's base of support was in Catholic Germany. So much for religion's role in keeping government on a moral path.

    So much for religion’s role in keeping government on a moral path.

    Define moral.

    In 1933 prostitution, pedophilia, mob rule, high unemployment, political chaos, financial chaos, starvation, disabled veterans on the street — all were rampant.
    Jews in Berlin’s financial district were frequently attacked by destitute mobs.

    NSDAP under Hitler’s leadership changed each and every element of that widespread dysfunction.

    Violence against Jews in Germany was quelled by NS.

    But zionist Jews in USA, in coordination with influential Jews in other parts of the world, organized and undertook economic war against Germany, with one stated goal of motivating German Jews to leave Germany and take their wealth to the zionist project in Palestine.

    The Germans who voted for Hitler voted for a re-moralized, orderly and prosperous society.

    Zionist Jews made the determination, and enacted directives and international movements, to disrupt and destroy that process that the German people voted for.

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  • @Thirdeye

    Recall: Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.
     
    Wrong.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

    And Hitler's base of support was in Catholic Germany. So much for religion's role in keeping government on a moral path.

    His initial HQ was in largely Catholic Munich but overall Protestants were slightly more attracted to Nazism than Catholics. Nuremberg, where Nazis were particularly strong, is a Protestant area in mainly Catholic Bavaria. Many Nazis were vitriolically anti-Catholic. Austrian pan-Germans before WW1 influenced the young Hitler and they loathed the Catholic Church – one of their rhymes was “Los von Juda, Habsburg, Rom, bauen wir den deutschen Dom” (“Away from Judah, Hapsburg, Rome, let us build the German cathedral”) and some Nazis said the despised Weimar flag represented black for Catholicism, red for socialism and gold for the Jews.

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  • @nickels
    What people don't get, especially all those braindead lapdogs of 'global democracy', is the fact that this ideology is simply a tool, not an end.
    If the 'global democracy' ever reaches a certain tipping point, where it's success is assured, then the mask will come off and we will see the face of the true demons that push this Trotskyite fantasy.
    At that point they will abandon all the lies of 'freedom' and slam down the hammer of tyranny, the likes of which this world has never known. First to be squashed will be exactly those privileged groups that multiculturalism and identity politics placed on their little power pedestals.
    Troubling ethnic groups and deviants will either be axed outright or shipped off to the remotest parts of oblivion.
    The ensuing system will be an ethnic tyranny of death, exploitation and techno facism.

    So true! We will truly all be Gazans then.

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  • Globalism’s public face, the part that dangles in the face of the deplorables must be re-tuned, re-tweaked, abetted. Why is it that even concerning the mass pathological psychologies, and primal drifts are not better understood, or are they, then not better implemented “public intellectual” speak is applied to it.

    If the term “democracy” is to be preserved and stay use-full to the public, it must be recycled and retooled urgently.

    The middle class of bread-writers on the internet bare responsibility, shared by their editors. Instead of sailing into the short-term wind as much as the attention span of their consumers allows, tack to a more rational course, one that expresses itself and can be felt.

    Globalism must be, to implement it, it should be highly covertly approached. This is another issue.The public face of globalism sucks, that is probably the main issue now. The whole narrative of greed, hard work, markets, and on sucks, and leads into confusion.

    Immigration, another concept never explained to the core, in a way that might be acceptable to the crowds.

    Even Islam does better, they have a covert AND overt approach both as bridges to the public. An example, the silence on how consumerism is incompatible with Islam(no overt explanation here but silence). The concept of covertly breeding as a nuclear tool for proportionate take-over of the West. Do Westerners think that the Muslim world does not comprehend what it is doing, or that the hordes of Islam are not whispered into baby booming? No-one ever told them, the incompatibility of consuming and Islam, but the “decadence” of Western society and women especially to be exploited yes. Not terror is the issue, the nuclear strategy of breeding is.

    What is the overt dousing of the Westerner into steering this? Why is it “well” to open all gates, is there any advantage, is that so hard to explain to the public of generational genetic Germans, or Americans?

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  • @El Dato
    Ghengis came a few hundred later than Attila (who ventured all the way into todays' France). Ghengis never ventured into Europe.

    This is correct. If I recall, it was actually his death that stopped the Horde from moving into Europe proper. They had to all halt and send delegations back to Mongolia to figure out succession and the next strategy.

    Of course the fractures soon started forming…

    Peace.

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  • @KenH
    Democracy won't save the white, Western world. Ezra Pound said that democracy is a government run by Jews and nowhere is that more true than here in the U.S. It's suicidal for whites who aren't racial masochists to place their trust in a system that features the likes of Bernie Sanders, Mad Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Chuck U Schumer and too many others to mention.

    The Jewish strategy is to deny whites in their traditional homelands any safe havens from the scratching and clawing hordes of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. The other element is de facto disenfranchisement of politically incorrect whites which we saw at Charlottesville and in the aftermath which saw doxxing, deplatforming, arrest without bail, and widespread viewpoint discrimination on major social media platforms. "Our" (((government))) has outsourced tyranny of pro-white political dissidents to the private sector and local governments.

    Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive. Orban is the closest thing to that thus far and I wonder when the Jewish occupied government in Tel Aviv, D.C. will scream for regime change and Orban will find himself on the receiving end of a color revolution or worse.

    Why? They seems to be pretty good friends…
    “Netanyahu congratulates Orban on reelection, invites him to Israel
    After landslide poll victory for Hungarian leader, PM thanks him for supporting Israel in international forums”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-congratulates-orban-on-reelection-invites-him-to-israel/

    Two peas in a pod…

    Peace.

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    World leaders congratulate each other over election victories all the time and it doesn't make them "good friends". Netanyahoo just likes to play the good cop Jew and I question his sincerity. Soros and other diaspora Jews will perform the dirty work of trying to undermine and marginalize Orban. I think Orban is shrewd enough to know where the red lines are when it comes to his own Jews and Israel and plays the game accordingly.

    Apparently most of Hungary's Jews don't even like or support Orban despite his philo-semitism:
    https://www.thejc.com/news/world/hungary-chief-rabbi-resigns-as-jews-consider-reaction-to-orb%C3%A1n-victory-1.462761
    "The vast majority of Hungarian Jewish opinion is against Fidesz, with those who supported Mr Orbán statistically insignificant."

    No matter how pro-Jewish or pro-Israel one is, Jews generally have a visceral reaction to a strong goy leader and tend to hear anti-semitic dog whistles with every utterance. Case in point is the candidacy and now presidency of Donald Trump.
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  • @Anonymous
    Pat always brings his religious views into every analysis. He tiptoes up to the truth, then implies prayer in school is the answer to everything.

    Pat always brings his religious views into every analysis. He tiptoes up to the truth, then implies prayer in school is the answer to everything.

    ….while denouncing the prospect of Sharia Law! Definitely a lack of self-awareness at work.

    Buchanan illustrates the bigoted tendencies within certain branches of Catholicism spectacularly.

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  • @Dan C
    Something I think Americans can't relate to is the deep sense of history the average Central European has. I've been impressed by how regular people there are aware of the horrible time of Hungary's wars with the Ottoman Turks, extending from the time of John Hunyadi (15th century) until their final expulsion in 1699.

    Texans have their expression "Remember the Alamo."

    Hungarians remember Eger Castle. Where in 1552 less than 2,300 people, only 1,500 of them soldiers, defeated an Ottoman army of 35,000, surviving 5 separate assaults. Gunner Gergely Bornemissza is still remembered much like Davy Crockett is in America. He figured out how to make homemade grenades and launch them into the Turkish troop ranks with devastating effect, and his exploit with an exploding waterwheel rolled downhill into the Turkish troop formations is still legendary.

    C'mon Eurocrats ... Do you think you're ever going to force the Hungarians to accept another Islamic invasion?

    Good point. Opposition to the Muslim Mass Migration into Europe seems centered in the countries that have in their historical memories either subjugation by or defense against the Turks.

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  • Recall: Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.

    Wrong.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

    And Hitler’s base of support was in Catholic Germany. So much for religion’s role in keeping government on a moral path.

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    His initial HQ was in largely Catholic Munich but overall Protestants were slightly more attracted to Nazism than Catholics. Nuremberg, where Nazis were particularly strong, is a Protestant area in mainly Catholic Bavaria. Many Nazis were vitriolically anti-Catholic. Austrian pan-Germans before WW1 influenced the young Hitler and they loathed the Catholic Church - one of their rhymes was "Los von Juda, Habsburg, Rom, bauen wir den deutschen Dom" ("Away from Judah, Hapsburg, Rome, let us build the German cathedral") and some Nazis said the despised Weimar flag represented black for Catholicism, red for socialism and gold for the Jews.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    So much for religion’s role in keeping government on a moral path.
     
    Define moral.

    In 1933 prostitution, pedophilia, mob rule, high unemployment, political chaos, financial chaos, starvation, disabled veterans on the street -- all were rampant.
    Jews in Berlin's financial district were frequently attacked by destitute mobs.

    NSDAP under Hitler's leadership changed each and every element of that widespread dysfunction.

    Violence against Jews in Germany was quelled by NS.

    But zionist Jews in USA, in coordination with influential Jews in other parts of the world, organized and undertook economic war against Germany, with one stated goal of motivating German Jews to leave Germany and take their wealth to the zionist project in Palestine.

    The Germans who voted for Hitler voted for a re-moralized, orderly and prosperous society.

    Zionist Jews made the determination, and enacted directives and international movements, to disrupt and destroy that process that the German people voted for.
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  • @Mario Partisan
    While I am not a frequent reader of his columns, I appreciate Mr. Buchanan and his input. That said, I find it ironic that he creates a dichotomy between nationalism and democracy. He associates the former with authoritarianism. However, if my understanding is correct, nationalism and democracy used to go hand-in-hand. Whatever you think of it, the French Revolution is an example of this. The revolution counterpoised the aristocracy to the people of France who were to be Citizens of the nation on the basis of their French nationality. The French revolution was both democratic and nationalist. It actualized the concept of popular sovereignty, and finalized the cobbling together of a French nation from a bunch of feudalistic regions.

    If we move forward a couple generations, we come to the revolutions of 1848. These revolutions were not only democratic but also nationalistic, and gave birth to the famous tri-colors that are now the flags of modern European nations.

    By Unknown - im Original Kreidelithographie, aus Buch? gescannt von User:APPER, Public Domain, Link

    By A. Klaus (Transfered by LeastCommonAncestor/Original uploaded by Unify) - Scan einer alten Litographie., Jabetza Publikoa, Lotura

    By Vittorio Emanuele Bressanin (1860-1941) - Own work, Public Domain, Link

    By Baldassare Verazzi (1819-1886) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/archiviovco/7999524777/, Public Domain, Link

    The increasing level of wealth inequality over the past 40 years has created a new global aristocracy. The rising nationalism of today is, at least in part, a reaction to rule of this aristocracy. I suspect that when the representatives of the aristocracy state that “diversity is our strength,” they are right. Indeed, diversity is THEIR strength. By undermining the common culture, common language, traditions and identity of a people, they have undermined the social capital of the populace. We are now divided and conquered in all of our nations. The corresponding lack of togetherness poses a strong barrier to a democratic uprising against that aristocracy.

    However, if my understanding is correct, nationalism and democracy used to go hand-in-hand. Whatever you think of it, the French Revolution is an example of this. The revolution counterpoised the aristocracy to the people of France who were to be Citizens of the nation on the basis of their French nationality. The French revolution was both democratic and nationalist.

    The French Revolution was internationalist and imperialist. It was the first step in the globalist program. It was also the first step in the destruction of France as a nation.

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    First, like you, I have described myself as a recovering leftist. Second, I’m not responding for the purpose of fighting, but rather to discuss and maybe to learn.

    You disagree with me that the French revolution was nationalistic. I will admit: I’m not an authority on the French revolution and could stand to read more about it. However, from what I understand, “Citizen” was a common way for people to address each other during the revolution. It seems to me that there is a connection between the concept of citizenship and the concept of a nation.

    Was it not the revolution that transformed the French people from subjects of the king into citizens of the nation? It seems to me that a country under a hereditary absolutist monarchy is more akin to a gigantic feudal manor than to a nation. It is when the people go from being subjects to citizens (a democratic change) that a nation is born.

    You say that the revolution was the first step in the globalist agenda. In hindsight, the revolution may have been a step towards a global order, but I don’t think that was a planned outcome.

    If you go back in history, you find man living in small clans consisting of a handful of people who are closely related to each other. At some point, man progressed towards a higher level of social interaction. Was that progression part of the globalist agenda? No, of course it wasn’t. It seems to me that much of human social evolution consists of a natural widening of the sphere of human interaction, from clan, to tribe, to city-state, to nation-state…

    The creation of nations is the result of expanded means of transportation, and of communication, which bring people of different regions into increased contact with one another, and thus create the basis for common language, traditions, and identity on a greater geographical scale than was previously possible. Revolutions like the French revolution formalized into law what had already been made possible by changes in the material base of society, and were the last step in creating nations of citizens. In that sense, they were nationalistic.

    Once a nation has come together, you have a united entity that is capable of interacting with other united entities, can trade, form alliances, sign treaties, etc. Meanwhile, the means of transportation and communication continue to advance, bringing nations into increased contact with one another. The birth of nations was a step towards the birth of a global order. What you characterize as the globalist program of the French revolutionaries is likely natural human social evolution. Yes, nationalism and internationalism are distinct ideologically; but historically, they are just links in an evolutionary chain, with the latter standing on the shoulders of the former.

    Finally, you say the revolution was imperialist. In a way, you are correct. It was after the revolution that Napoleon came to power, declared himself emperor, and began the conquest of other countries. But I don’t know that this was the original agenda of the revolutionaries. It may be that empire was forced on the French. The French revolution was a radical departure from the political forms that Europe had inherited from medieval times. It is likely that “all the powers of old Europe had entered into a holy alliance” to suppress the revolution. The French revolution did not have the benefit of two huge oceans separating itself from its enemies; the enemies were at the border. Maybe it was a case of export or die.

    While it may appear that I am endorsing globalism here, there is a difference between organic internationalism on the one hand, and forced globalism, with its manufactured identity politics, on the other. One is ground up and natural, the other top down and artificial. I think what I said in my previous post above still stands. The world is not a simple place. Our minds reflect reality, and if my thoughts appear somewhat contradictory, it is because the world we live in is contradictory.

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  • @redmudhooch
    They don't give a hoot about "diversity" or minorities, if they did they would stop bombing, plundering, these peoples homelands.
    They want "diversity" because it makes it easier to rule over/enslave, makes it easier to divide the people and turn them against each other, using their control over the media, 24/7/365 spewing nonstop hate speech and division.
    People are sick of the minority rule, the ignorant/brainwashed minority at that. Americans are very welcoming and loving people, but when they start using your kindness against you,, be careful, you're gonna awaken a very very agitated sleeping giant sooner or later.
    Its coming, the signs are everywhere. People realize who/what the problem is now, many are afraid to admit it or talk about it in public for fear of being called names, or losing their jobs, but they know.

    They don’t give a hoot about “diversity” or minorities, if they did they would stop bombing, plundering, these peoples homelands.

    That’s a point that needs to be emphasised. The people who push antiracist rhetoric are the same people who pursue horrifyingly racist foreign policies. We need to keep hammering the point that US foreign policy isn’t just stupid and evil, it’s racist.

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  • @Erol Pedersen
    You’re right but you left out the USA; over the next twenty five years whites will become a minority and the USA will become a “ majority-minority country.” What’s even worse is that this fact is actually celebrated by the cultural, political and academic “elite” in America as a positive development. Only an idiocracy would think that way.

    “Only an idiocracy would think that way.”

    True, especially given that they are already calling for white genocide, claiming whites are responsible for everyone else’s problems, tearing down monuments, rewriting history so it doesn’t highlight all the advances created by white men, silencing anything pro white (even if it is as meek as “it is ok to be white”), and discriminating against whites in jobs and education. That’s while we are still a majority. South Africa here we come!

    It doesn’t take too much analysis to see that whites are leaving their descendants in a very bad situation. Only idiots would see this as a virtue. It is bragging that you think it is great you were invaded and conquered.

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  • Pat always brings his religious views into every analysis. He tiptoes up to the truth, then implies prayer in school is the answer to everything.

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    Pat always brings his religious views into every analysis. He tiptoes up to the truth, then implies prayer in school is the answer to everything.
     
    ....while denouncing the prospect of Sharia Law! Definitely a lack of self-awareness at work.

    Buchanan illustrates the bigoted tendencies within certain branches of Catholicism spectacularly.
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  • While I am not a frequent reader of his columns, I appreciate Mr. Buchanan and his input. That said, I find it ironic that he creates a dichotomy between nationalism and democracy. He associates the former with authoritarianism. However, if my understanding is correct, nationalism and democracy used to go hand-in-hand. Whatever you think of it, the French Revolution is an example of this. The revolution counterpoised the aristocracy to the people of France who were to be Citizens of the nation on the basis of their French nationality. The French revolution was both democratic and nationalist. It actualized the concept of popular sovereignty, and finalized the cobbling together of a French nation from a bunch of feudalistic regions.

    If we move forward a couple generations, we come to the revolutions of 1848. These revolutions were not only democratic but also nationalistic, and gave birth to the famous tri-colors that are now the flags of modern European nations.

    By Unknown – im Original Kreidelithographie, aus Buch? gescannt von User:APPER, Public Domain, Link

    By A. Klaus (Transfered by LeastCommonAncestor/Original uploaded by Unify) – Scan einer alten Litographie., Jabetza Publikoa, Lotura

    By Vittorio Emanuele Bressanin (1860-1941) – Own work, Public Domain, Link

    By Baldassare Verazzi (1819-1886) – https://www.flickr.com/photos/archiviovco/7999524777/, Public Domain, Link

    The increasing level of wealth inequality over the past 40 years has created a new global aristocracy. The rising nationalism of today is, at least in part, a reaction to rule of this aristocracy. I suspect that when the representatives of the aristocracy state that “diversity is our strength,” they are right. Indeed, diversity is THEIR strength. By undermining the common culture, common language, traditions and identity of a people, they have undermined the social capital of the populace. We are now divided and conquered in all of our nations. The corresponding lack of togetherness poses a strong barrier to a democratic uprising against that aristocracy.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    However, if my understanding is correct, nationalism and democracy used to go hand-in-hand. Whatever you think of it, the French Revolution is an example of this. The revolution counterpoised the aristocracy to the people of France who were to be Citizens of the nation on the basis of their French nationality. The French revolution was both democratic and nationalist.
     
    The French Revolution was internationalist and imperialist. It was the first step in the globalist program. It was also the first step in the destruction of France as a nation.
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  • anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan C
    Something I think Americans can't relate to is the deep sense of history the average Central European has. I've been impressed by how regular people there are aware of the horrible time of Hungary's wars with the Ottoman Turks, extending from the time of John Hunyadi (15th century) until their final expulsion in 1699.

    Texans have their expression "Remember the Alamo."

    Hungarians remember Eger Castle. Where in 1552 less than 2,300 people, only 1,500 of them soldiers, defeated an Ottoman army of 35,000, surviving 5 separate assaults. Gunner Gergely Bornemissza is still remembered much like Davy Crockett is in America. He figured out how to make homemade grenades and launch them into the Turkish troop ranks with devastating effect, and his exploit with an exploding waterwheel rolled downhill into the Turkish troop formations is still legendary.

    C'mon Eurocrats ... Do you think you're ever going to force the Hungarians to accept another Islamic invasion?

    Bram Stoker’s Dracula and other novels also set in the Carpathians, like The Historian, by Elizabeth Kostova, can ease the non-East European reader into an awareness of that history.

    A remade of Dracula is in process. It’s reasonable to suspect that the new version, or return to Dracula, will not be authentic to Hungarian cultural and historical awareness but will, instead, produce a politically correct work of propaganda-fiction.

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  • Why use the terminology of one’s opponents? If a leader favors the citizens of his own country over those of Somalia and Morocco, that does not make him an “authoritarian”.

    Mainstream politicians seem to think that a country is merely the territory of a global money-making machine (if they come from the right) or a global welfare machine (if they come from the left). The country’s citizens are likely to disagree with both propositions.

    Ask not what Hungary can do for the illiterate Afghan goat-herder; ask what the illiterate Afghan goat-herder can do for Hungary. Most Hungarians know that the answer is “not much”. Come to that, most French, British, or Americans know the same thing. What is really remarkable is how far “mainstream” politicians have drifted away from the real mainstream of their own countries.

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  • Something I think Americans can’t relate to is the deep sense of history the average Central European has. I’ve been impressed by how regular people there are aware of the horrible time of Hungary’s wars with the Ottoman Turks, extending from the time of John Hunyadi (15th century) until their final expulsion in 1699.

    Texans have their expression “Remember the Alamo.”

    Hungarians remember Eger Castle. Where in 1552 less than 2,300 people, only 1,500 of them soldiers, defeated an Ottoman army of 35,000, surviving 5 separate assaults. Gunner Gergely Bornemissza is still remembered much like Davy Crockett is in America. He figured out how to make homemade grenades and launch them into the Turkish troop ranks with devastating effect, and his exploit with an exploding waterwheel rolled downhill into the Turkish troop formations is still legendary.

    C’mon Eurocrats … Do you think you’re ever going to force the Hungarians to accept another Islamic invasion?

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    Bram Stoker's Dracula and other novels also set in the Carpathians, like The Historian, by Elizabeth Kostova, can ease the non-East European reader into an awareness of that history.

    A remade of Dracula is in process. It's reasonable to suspect that the new version, or return to Dracula, will not be authentic to Hungarian cultural and historical awareness but will, instead, produce a politically correct work of propaganda-fiction.

    , @Thirdeye
    Good point. Opposition to the Muslim Mass Migration into Europe seems centered in the countries that have in their historical memories either subjugation by or defense against the Turks.
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  • Democracy won’t save the white, Western world. Ezra Pound said that democracy is a government run by Jews and nowhere is that more true than here in the U.S. It’s suicidal for whites who aren’t racial masochists to place their trust in a system that features the likes of Bernie Sanders, Mad Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Chuck U Schumer and too many others to mention.

    The Jewish strategy is to deny whites in their traditional homelands any safe havens from the scratching and clawing hordes of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. The other element is de facto disenfranchisement of politically incorrect whites which we saw at Charlottesville and in the aftermath which saw doxxing, deplatforming, arrest without bail, and widespread viewpoint discrimination on major social media platforms. “Our” (((government))) has outsourced tyranny of pro-white political dissidents to the private sector and local governments.

    Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive. Orban is the closest thing to that thus far and I wonder when the Jewish occupied government in Tel Aviv, D.C. will scream for regime change and Orban will find himself on the receiving end of a color revolution or worse.

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    Why? They seems to be pretty good friends...
    “Netanyahu congratulates Orban on reelection, invites him to Israel
    After landslide poll victory for Hungarian leader, PM thanks him for supporting Israel in international forums”
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-congratulates-orban-on-reelection-invites-him-to-israel/

    Two peas in a pod...

    Peace.
    , @Corvinus
    "Every white nation needs to be governed by a pro-white Caesar whose highest priority is the welfare of his own people above all things if it is to survive."

    And what happens when the majority of whites in those nations directly oppose the Alt Right's jackboots of nationalism for only white people? Do not these whites have the freedom to association to include non-whites as being "their own people" and "one of them"?

    Some would argue that we are heading to a civil war. Assuming it occurs by 2033, are you prepared to join the front lines, or remain in the back as an armchair warrior if and when the shooting starts? Are you prepared to curb stomp little boys and girls, many of them white, merely because you pay homage to this "pro-white Caesar"?

    I would venture you fortunately lack the guile and gumption to engage in such action. St. Breivik, you are not.

    Indeed, in this context, Patrick is right when he says "as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people".
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  • The authoritarian right, as defined by western liberals, describes every society from 3000 BC to like the 1960s. It still does for most non-western countries. Maybe it’s not so bad.

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  • @Captain Willard
    So, cutting through all the bullshit, Pat applauds the Magyars for invading from Asia, seizing "Hungary", expelling and repelling Ottomans, subduing Slovaks, outwitting Romanians and Austrians and finally overcoming Soros.

    Why doesn't he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice? Why does it have to be cloaked in nationalism to gain respectability? The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis.

    Ghengis came a few hundred later than Attila (who ventured all the way into todays’ France). Ghengis never ventured into Europe.

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    This is correct. If I recall, it was actually his death that stopped the Horde from moving into Europe proper. They had to all halt and send delegations back to Mongolia to figure out succession and the next strategy.

    Of course the fractures soon started forming...

    Peace.
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  • @Diversity Heretic

    But let Monsieur Macron bring in another 5 million former subject peoples of the French Empire and he will discover that the magnanimity and altruism of the French has its limits, and a Le Pen will soon replace him in the Elysee Palace.
     
    Not likely. With additional immigration and 40% of "French" children born in 2016 having at least one parent of African or Middle East origin, the prospect of a nationalist along the lines of Marine Le Pen being elected are approximately zero. One can only hope that the nations of Eastern Europe will see the unnfolding demographic, political and cultural catastrophe of the U.K., Germany, France and Sweden and decide national suicide is not a good option.

    You’re right but you left out the USA; over the next twenty five years whites will become a minority and the USA will become a “ majority-minority country.” What’s even worse is that this fact is actually celebrated by the cultural, political and academic “elite” in America as a positive development. Only an idiocracy would think that way.

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    "Only an idiocracy would think that way."

    True, especially given that they are already calling for white genocide, claiming whites are responsible for everyone else's problems, tearing down monuments, rewriting history so it doesn't highlight all the advances created by white men, silencing anything pro white (even if it is as meek as "it is ok to be white"), and discriminating against whites in jobs and education. That's while we are still a majority. South Africa here we come!

    It doesn't take too much analysis to see that whites are leaving their descendants in a very bad situation. Only idiots would see this as a virtue. It is bragging that you think it is great you were invaded and conquered.
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  • @Alfa158
    Buchanan is normally a pretty smart guy, but in this case he appears to be confused about the meaning of the words autocrat and authoritarian versus liberal democrat. Orban is a democratically elected leader not an autocrat. Pat seems to conflate authoritarianism with taking action, and liberal democracy with passivity.
    “Recall Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.”
    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what? Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?
    This is one of Buchanan’s silliest articles in a long time.

    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what?

    Now there’s an autocrat.

    Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?

    Orbán is the odd man out. He’s the only one who has never embraced Joe Stalin at any time in his adult life.

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  • @redmudhooch
    Soap/Lampshades? You're being sarcastic right?

    asked:
    “Soap/Lampshades? You’re being sarcastic right?”

    Red,
    Rurik doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I have him eating out of my hand.

    “I owe my permission to submit the Zionist plan for the final solution of the Jewish Question.”

    - ‘Father of political Zionism’ Theodor Herzl, letter to the Czar, November 22, 1899.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  • @anon
    first button on the left

    says "REPLY"

    hover over the comment you are replying to
    click REPLY

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    then other readers can know who you are responding to

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  • No its not

    It is imploding

    To mass murder to starbucks white men are constantly proving themselves to be unworthy

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/18/nyregion/syracuse-fraternity-suspended.html

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  • How is PM Orban ‘authoritarian’? Did he dissolve parliament or something? Maybe in Poland there were some constitutional changes, but Hungary is not Poland.

    ‘their own … religion’ I do not believe Hungary has a state religion,

    Wikipedia: Orbán is a member of the Calvinist Hungarian Reformed Church, while his wife and five children are Roman Catholic.

    Religion in Hungary (2011 census)[1]

    Catholic Church (37.1%)
    Greek Catholicism (1.8%)
    Calvinism (11.6%)
    Lutheranism (2.2%)
    Other religions (1.9%)
    Non-religious (16.7%)
    Atheists (1.5%)
    Undeclared (27.2%)

    Religion in Hungary has been dominated by forms of Christianity for centuries. At the 2011 census[1] 38.9% of Hungarians were Catholics (both Greek and Roman), 13.8% were Protestants (11.6% were Calvinists, 2.2% were Lutherans), around 2% followed other religions, 16.7% were non-religious and 1.5% were atheists. Other religions practiced in Hungary include Sunni Islam and Judaism. A high number of people (27.2%) decided to not answer the question, since it was optional.[2]

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  • @Rurik

    holocaust’ scam
     
    everyone who denies the Holy Holocaust - when the most evil people that ever lived tried to murder God Himself (the Jewish people) are as bad as the Nazis in Hungary who demand to remain Nazis, who refuse to do what they must - blend their Nazi genes away in a sea of homogenizing humanity.

    We are all humans, but some humans, (Nazis like the Hungarians) want to preserve their unique Nazi ethnic identity. This is where George Soros comes in, and flings open the gates to the Nazi kingdom, to a purifying wave of African migrants and gypsies and Muslims and everyone else they can get, who in time, will blend away the vile identity of Hungary's (and Germany's and Norway's and France's) Nazis, and save God's people from the next time Hitler wants to make soap and lampshades.

    Soap/Lampshades? You’re being sarcastic right?

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    asked:
    "Soap/Lampshades? You’re being sarcastic right?"

    Red,
    Rurik doesn't know what he's talking about. I have him eating out of my hand.

    "I owe my permission to submit the Zionist plan for the final solution of the Jewish Question."

    - 'Father of political Zionism' Theodor Herzl, letter to the Czar, November 22, 1899.

     

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  • They don’t give a hoot about “diversity” or minorities, if they did they would stop bombing, plundering, these peoples homelands.
    They want “diversity” because it makes it easier to rule over/enslave, makes it easier to divide the people and turn them against each other, using their control over the media, 24/7/365 spewing nonstop hate speech and division.
    People are sick of the minority rule, the ignorant/brainwashed minority at that. Americans are very welcoming and loving people, but when they start using your kindness against you,, be careful, you’re gonna awaken a very very agitated sleeping giant sooner or later.
    Its coming, the signs are everywhere. People realize who/what the problem is now, many are afraid to admit it or talk about it in public for fear of being called names, or losing their jobs, but they know.

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    They don’t give a hoot about “diversity” or minorities, if they did they would stop bombing, plundering, these peoples homelands.
     
    That's a point that needs to be emphasised. The people who push antiracist rhetoric are the same people who pursue horrifyingly racist foreign policies. We need to keep hammering the point that US foreign policy isn't just stupid and evil, it's racist.
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  • IMO Pat Buchanan writes consistently good articles.

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people,” said John Adams. And as we have ceased to be a moral and religious people, the poet T. S. Eliot warned us what would happen:

    “The term ‘democracy’ … does not contain enough positive content to stand alone against the forces you dislike — it can be easily be transformed by them. If you will not have God (and he is a jealous God), you should pay your respects to Hitler and Stalin.” Recall: Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.

    Democracy lacks content. As a political system, it does not engage the heart. And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action.

    Democracy does reflect the national mood. It produced Trump – and regardless of his travails – the vote represented the desire for a man of action.

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  • anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Is it authoritarian? Or just autonomous?
     
    You know you're hard-core alt-right when you stop giving (much of) a shit about these questions. "They" can call it whatever they want; it's not going to move me.

    Not to shut you down, or anything. You make good points.

    first button on the left

    says “REPLY”

    hover over the comment you are replying to
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    unless, of course, you are one of those nut jobs who walks down the street talking to yourself

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    Great story, bro.
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  • Is it authoritarian? Or just autonomous?

    You know you’re hard-core alt-right when you stop giving (much of) a shit about these questions. “They” can call it whatever they want; it’s not going to move me.

    Not to shut you down, or anything. You make good points.

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  • Pretty much.

    Good piece, pat. Might give this one to a few normies.

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  • @Per/Norway
    "Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?"
    Norway do to,, would you call the Norwegian government autocratic rightwing dangers for democrazy?

    Norwegian government autocratic rightwing dangers for democrazy?

    no, I would call them Nazis

    unless they start acting like the Swedes and invite in unlimited numbers of gene-pool-purifying racial migrants and “refugees”

    who will purify the Nazi blood of the Norwegians for all time.

    did you know that there were Norwegian SS members?!

    do you realize that Norwegians often have blonde hair and blue eyes?!

    nuff said

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  • @Wally
    The use of the word 'Nazis' is classic GIGO: garbage in, garbage out.

    Considering the fact that they did not do what is absurdly claimed (the impossible 6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers), any discussion of the 'dangers of Nazism' is a strawman.

    Get off your knees, shabbos goys.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    holocaust’ scam

    everyone who denies the Holy Holocaust – when the most evil people that ever lived tried to murder God Himself (the Jewish people) are as bad as the Nazis in Hungary who demand to remain Nazis, who refuse to do what they must – blend their Nazi genes away in a sea of homogenizing humanity.

    We are all humans, but some humans, (Nazis like the Hungarians) want to preserve their unique Nazi ethnic identity. This is where George Soros comes in, and flings open the gates to the Nazi kingdom, to a purifying wave of African migrants and gypsies and Muslims and everyone else they can get, who in time, will blend away the vile identity of Hungary’s (and Germany’s and Norway’s and France’s) Nazis, and save God’s people from the next time Hitler wants to make soap and lampshades.

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    Soap/Lampshades? You're being sarcastic right?
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    " ... to a purifying wave of African migrants ... "

    should be

    " ... to a putrefying wave of African migrants ... "

    that's more accurate.
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  • @Renoman
    Divershity is just that! Birds of a feather is a true realism, we really don't like other cultures, it's the way we are. You can't legislate respect, sooner or later there will be war and since war is good business perhaps that's the plan. I run a small renovation business in Canada, 40 years now, doing just fine good reputation, never been to court but I have yet to be hired by any minority group for anything. Racism is universal my friends that's why we live in different neighborhoods, that's why the white's are arming themselves, we know it's coming.

    It’s hard enough for homogeneous groups to get along…impossible for heterogeneous groups.

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  • @Johnnyreb
    Hans-Hermann Hoppe has said that democracy is incompatible with private property. I agree with that. I would only add that democracy is also incompatible with freedom.

    Hans-Hermann Hoppe has said that democracy is incompatible with private property. I agree with that. I would only add that democracy is also incompatible with freedom.

    Yes and it always fails.

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  • Democracy: The God that failed as they always do . This country is no longer a democracy or a republic and as most often, will probably shift to Autocracy.through rebellion.

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  • @Zogby

    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk “autocrats” and “authoritarians”
     
    Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?

    I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten.
     
    The election was just 2 weeks ago. Give them time.

    “Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?”
    Norway do to,, would you call the Norwegian government autocratic rightwing dangers for democrazy?

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    Norwegian government autocratic rightwing dangers for democrazy?
     
    no, I would call them Nazis

    unless they start acting like the Swedes and invite in unlimited numbers of gene-pool-purifying racial migrants and "refugees"

    who will purify the Nazi blood of the Norwegians for all time.

    did you know that there were Norwegian SS members?!

    do you realize that Norwegians often have blonde hair and blue eyes?!

    nuff said
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  • @Rurik

    (((“Modern liberals and progressives”))), (((“Our elites”))). Has the list of euphemisms reached triple digits yet?
     
    this is Buchanan's most anti-Semitic screed yet.

    because they do not see what is happening to the West as a crisis.
     
    "they" huh? Why not just go ahead and use the echoes Pat? Don't you mean (((they))) ?

    And why shouldn't Soros and the rest demand that Hungary too open its borders to diversity? When we all know that Hungarians too, just as all white people are all dormant Nazis- just waiting like sleepers to be activated, and then right on cue, we all know what happens next...

    http://siliconangle.com/files/2016/08/hitler.jpg

    there is one and only one solution to Nazis, whether they're in Hungary, the ZUSA or France

    https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/posts/image/104985/heidi-klum-seal.jpg

    and they'll either accept it willingly, or otherwise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TFukDB1D8

    The use of the word ‘Nazis’ is classic GIGO: garbage in, garbage out.

    Considering the fact that they did not do what is absurdly claimed (the impossible 6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers), any discussion of the ‘dangers of Nazism’ is a strawman.

    Get off your knees, shabbos goys.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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    holocaust’ scam
     
    everyone who denies the Holy Holocaust - when the most evil people that ever lived tried to murder God Himself (the Jewish people) are as bad as the Nazis in Hungary who demand to remain Nazis, who refuse to do what they must - blend their Nazi genes away in a sea of homogenizing humanity.

    We are all humans, but some humans, (Nazis like the Hungarians) want to preserve their unique Nazi ethnic identity. This is where George Soros comes in, and flings open the gates to the Nazi kingdom, to a purifying wave of African migrants and gypsies and Muslims and everyone else they can get, who in time, will blend away the vile identity of Hungary's (and Germany's and Norway's and France's) Nazis, and save God's people from the next time Hitler wants to make soap and lampshades.

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  • What people don’t get, especially all those braindead lapdogs of ‘global democracy’, is the fact that this ideology is simply a tool, not an end.
    If the ‘global democracy’ ever reaches a certain tipping point, where it’s success is assured, then the mask will come off and we will see the face of the true demons that push this Trotskyite fantasy.
    At that point they will abandon all the lies of ‘freedom’ and slam down the hammer of tyranny, the likes of which this world has never known. First to be squashed will be exactly those privileged groups that multiculturalism and identity politics placed on their little power pedestals.
    Troubling ethnic groups and deviants will either be axed outright or shipped off to the remotest parts of oblivion.
    The ensuing system will be an ethnic tyranny of death, exploitation and techno facism.

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    So true! We will truly all be Gazans then.
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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • @Steve Gittelson

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.
     
    Yes, but the end is in sight. Once the conflicts are resolved by civil war -- to whatever extent resolution takes place -- we will get an interregnum of some sort, during which some gains may be made. Maybe so, maybe no -- it's a crapshoot. Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

    Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

    or Rousseau for that matter

    it’s a crapshoot.

    have you seen this?

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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
  • @gsjackson
    ((("Modern liberals and progressives"))), ((("Our elites"))). Has the list of euphemisms reached triple digits yet?

    (((“Modern liberals and progressives”))), (((“Our elites”))). Has the list of euphemisms reached triple digits yet?

    this is Buchanan’s most anti-Semitic screed yet.

    because they do not see what is happening to the West as a crisis.

    “they” huh? Why not just go ahead and use the echoes Pat? Don’t you mean (((they))) ?

    And why shouldn’t Soros and the rest demand that Hungary too open its borders to diversity? When we all know that Hungarians too, just as all white people are all dormant Nazis- just waiting like sleepers to be activated, and then right on cue, we all know what happens next…

    there is one and only one solution to Nazis, whether they’re in Hungary, the ZUSA or France

    and they’ll either accept it willingly, or otherwise

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    The use of the word 'Nazis' is classic GIGO: garbage in, garbage out.

    Considering the fact that they did not do what is absurdly claimed (the impossible 6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers), any discussion of the 'dangers of Nazism' is a strawman.

    Get off your knees, shabbos goys.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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  • @Alfa158
    Buchanan is normally a pretty smart guy, but in this case he appears to be confused about the meaning of the words autocrat and authoritarian versus liberal democrat. Orban is a democratically elected leader not an autocrat. Pat seems to conflate authoritarianism with taking action, and liberal democracy with passivity.
    “Recall Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.”
    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what? Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?
    This is one of Buchanan’s silliest articles in a long time.

    I think it’s that Buchanan imagines himself addressing the managerial elite with these articles, and feels he needs to speak their language. In the Orwellian language of the globalists, “democracy” doesn’t have its root and historical meaning of government elected by and responsive to the people. Rather, they mean something closer to the exact opposite: government by apparatchiks whose job is to subordinate its people’s wishes to globalist policies (austerity, mass immigration, whatever the case may be).

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  • @Captain Willard
    So, cutting through all the bullshit, Pat applauds the Magyars for invading from Asia, seizing "Hungary", expelling and repelling Ottomans, subduing Slovaks, outwitting Romanians and Austrians and finally overcoming Soros.

    Why doesn't he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice? Why does it have to be cloaked in nationalism to gain respectability? The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis.

    “The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis”

    That might be true if earlier invasions were accomplished by the rulers of the invaded countries importing the invaders themselves. Soros is supposedly descended from one of the 10 tribes (the Ashkenazi) that made up early Hungary, so that makes him particularly repugnant to modern Hungarians.

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  • @anonymous
    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk "autocrats" and "authoritarians" that have rejected "democracy"? The first and last things he tells us are:

    "A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country’s constitution.
    ....
    Democracy lacks content. As a political system, it does not engage the heart. And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action."

    Is there something deplorable about the Hungarians who voted Fidesz? Mr. Buchanan hasn't explained why he sees Mr. Orban as an "autocrat," and warned that, "Hitler rose to power through a democratic election." (I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten. That alarmist rhetoric appears to have come from an April 8 New York Times article, "Hungary Election Gives Orban Big Majority, and Control of Constitution.") Is that how he sees the 2016 US presidential election?

    Someone else recently noted in commenting about another Buchanan column that he writes to and for an Establishment audience. I'm afraid that "Mr. Paleoconservative" has succumbed to the Beltway arrogance that "we" are the people best fit to rule.

    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk “autocrats” and “authoritarians”

    Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?

    I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten.

    The election was just 2 weeks ago. Give them time.

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    "Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?"
    Norway do to,, would you call the Norwegian government autocratic rightwing dangers for democrazy?
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  • Hans-Hermann Hoppe has said that democracy is incompatible with private property. I agree with that. I would only add that democracy is also incompatible with freedom.

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    • Replies: @Realist

    Hans-Hermann Hoppe has said that democracy is incompatible with private property. I agree with that. I would only add that democracy is also incompatible with freedom.
     
    Yes and it always fails.
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  • @Anon
    Is it authoritarian? Or just autonomous?

    Is it more authoritarian to be ruled by an imperialist like Soros? Or by EU that goes after thought criminals and forces nations to be mass-invaded by Africans and Muslims?

    It's national authoritarianism vs globalist authoritarianism. Globalists disparage democratic will in Eastern European nations. They way the people must obey the globo elites.

    Who are the real tyrants?

    Buchanan is normally a pretty smart guy, but in this case he appears to be confused about the meaning of the words autocrat and authoritarian versus liberal democrat. Orban is a democratically elected leader not an autocrat. Pat seems to conflate authoritarianism with taking action, and liberal democracy with passivity.
    “Recall Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.”
    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what? Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?
    This is one of Buchanan’s silliest articles in a long time.

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    • Replies: @the raven
    I think it's that Buchanan imagines himself addressing the managerial elite with these articles, and feels he needs to speak their language. In the Orwellian language of the globalists, "democracy" doesn't have its root and historical meaning of government elected by and responsive to the people. Rather, they mean something closer to the exact opposite: government by apparatchiks whose job is to subordinate its people's wishes to globalist policies (austerity, mass immigration, whatever the case may be).
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what?
     
    Now there's an autocrat.

    Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?

     

    Orbán is the odd man out. He's the only one who has never embraced Joe Stalin at any time in his adult life.
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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Characters like Carlson are far too likely to be part of the overall propaganda effort for me to watch TV just to see them. You're talking about how the zionists bait him with questions that he has to answer in an approved manner. Doesn't that have the effect on you of having to accept that he's lying to them?

    To me, if I decided to watch one of his shows, and some congressman asked him if he cared about Israel and he said, "Of course I care about Israel"", I would just switch it off and conclude that he's either a stooge for Israel or he's a liar.

    Maybe he's on Fox to keep viewers like you watching Fox. I stopped watching TV news in 2001. Seeing a few minutes of it in a waiting room or somewhere like that is enough to make me get up and leave. I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

    I find it hard to criticize you; I certainly don’t watch TV talk shows if I can possibly avoid them.

    That said, there’s certainly somewhat of a spectrum here on awareness and honesty. Mr. Buchanan, for instance, became “toxic” some years ago and was mostly “deplatformed”. Mr. Carlson is less “extreme”, but he is certainly useful as, intentionally or unintentionally, a public speaker for unpopular views.

    Apologies for scare quotes, but I think they are merited.

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  • @Rurik

    I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.
     
    I know what you mean, but even as they speak in Newspeak, and the ubiquitous mendacity is insulting and grating, I still like to stay informed on the misinformation they're programming into people's minds.

    I can't watch the leftist stuff on CNN and the rest, because it's far too shrill, but I used to watch O'Rielly just to know what the Red state folks were told to think.

    And watching Tucker can be pretty enlightening to just how far off the rails the left has careened.

    Last night the guest host had a guy on who was trying to speak at Harvard law school on free speech, and the Red Guards shut him down, shouting things like "fuck the law!"

    apparently free speech is just code for 'white supremacism', (did you know that?)

    we should be aware that the left is descending into stark madness, where you are guilty by virtue of your gender and hue, and your only acceptable response is 'I'm sorry, and what can I do to make restitution'

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    Yes, but the end is in sight. Once the conflicts are resolved by civil war — to whatever extent resolution takes place — we will get an interregnum of some sort, during which some gains may be made. Maybe so, maybe no — it’s a crapshoot. Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

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    Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.
     
    or Rousseau for that matter

    it’s a crapshoot.
     
    have you seen this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEO0-lkWlr8
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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
  • @anonymous
    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk "autocrats" and "authoritarians" that have rejected "democracy"? The first and last things he tells us are:

    "A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country’s constitution.
    ....
    Democracy lacks content. As a political system, it does not engage the heart. And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action."

    Is there something deplorable about the Hungarians who voted Fidesz? Mr. Buchanan hasn't explained why he sees Mr. Orban as an "autocrat," and warned that, "Hitler rose to power through a democratic election." (I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten. That alarmist rhetoric appears to have come from an April 8 New York Times article, "Hungary Election Gives Orban Big Majority, and Control of Constitution.") Is that how he sees the 2016 US presidential election?

    Someone else recently noted in commenting about another Buchanan column that he writes to and for an Establishment audience. I'm afraid that "Mr. Paleoconservative" has succumbed to the Beltway arrogance that "we" are the people best fit to rule.

    And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action.

    Missed something?

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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • @Rurik

    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.
     
    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer's doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn't take my eyes off of her, I still couldn't get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it's not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    If it’s any consolation … they do age badly. ;-)

    Meh, Costa Rica — the first place my family got tangled up with locals, providing me with CR relatives I never see. CR is so Americanized, it’s almost lost its own identity.

    I grew up with Latins, so I am immune to the girls. They ain’t foolin’ me … Unfortunately, the war provided me with a preference for Vietnamese girls that has never worn off. Chacun a son gout.

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  • @Twodees Partain
    Characters like Carlson are far too likely to be part of the overall propaganda effort for me to watch TV just to see them. You're talking about how the zionists bait him with questions that he has to answer in an approved manner. Doesn't that have the effect on you of having to accept that he's lying to them?

    To me, if I decided to watch one of his shows, and some congressman asked him if he cared about Israel and he said, "Of course I care about Israel"", I would just switch it off and conclude that he's either a stooge for Israel or he's a liar.

    Maybe he's on Fox to keep viewers like you watching Fox. I stopped watching TV news in 2001. Seeing a few minutes of it in a waiting room or somewhere like that is enough to make me get up and leave. I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

    I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

    I know what you mean, but even as they speak in Newspeak, and the ubiquitous mendacity is insulting and grating, I still like to stay informed on the misinformation they’re programming into people’s minds.

    I can’t watch the leftist stuff on CNN and the rest, because it’s far too shrill, but I used to watch O’Rielly just to know what the Red state folks were told to think.

    And watching Tucker can be pretty enlightening to just how far off the rails the left has careened.

    Last night the guest host had a guy on who was trying to speak at Harvard law school on free speech, and the Red Guards shut him down, shouting things like “fuck the law!”

    apparently free speech is just code for ‘white supremacism’, (did you know that?)

    we should be aware that the left is descending into stark madness, where you are guilty by virtue of your gender and hue, and your only acceptable response is ‘I’m sorry, and what can I do to make restitution’

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

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    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.
     
    Yes, but the end is in sight. Once the conflicts are resolved by civil war -- to whatever extent resolution takes place -- we will get an interregnum of some sort, during which some gains may be made. Maybe so, maybe no -- it's a crapshoot. Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.
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  • @Steve Gittelson

    I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.
     
    Naw, don't think so ... Chile is predominantly Spanish, 65% white of European ancestry, the rest mestizo or amerind (very few negros). Some Brits, yes. Argentina does have a lot of Italians, IIRC.

    When we were kids going to the American school in Sao Paulo, the SA "American" schools organized athletic tournaments twice a year. We played baseball, touch football, track and field with kids from American schools all over South America. Major partying went on for three days -- nobody gave a damn about the athletics, it was an international make-out session of epic proportion.

    We couldn't understand the Chilean Spanish, a lot of them being rich Santiago society girls put in an American school for the usual reasons. They were drop-dead gorgeous chiquitas, usually producing testosterone-driven fights. Also, I remember a bit of a scandal when one of the US Consulate's chaperoning vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    Ah, good times.

    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer’s doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn’t take my eyes off of her, I still couldn’t get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it’s not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

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    But holy hell was she gorgeous!
     
    If it's any consolation ... they do age badly. ;-)

    Meh, Costa Rica -- the first place my family got tangled up with locals, providing me with CR relatives I never see. CR is so Americanized, it's almost lost its own identity.

    I grew up with Latins, so I am immune to the girls. They ain't foolin' me ... Unfortunately, the war provided me with a preference for Vietnamese girls that has never worn off. Chacun a son gout.
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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
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  • So, cutting through all the bullshit, Pat applauds the Magyars for invading from Asia, seizing “Hungary”, expelling and repelling Ottomans, subduing Slovaks, outwitting Romanians and Austrians and finally overcoming Soros.

    Why doesn’t he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice? Why does it have to be cloaked in nationalism to gain respectability? The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis.

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    "The present-day African invasion differs only in subtlety and method from good old Genghis"

    That might be true if earlier invasions were accomplished by the rulers of the invaded countries importing the invaders themselves. Soros is supposedly descended from one of the 10 tribes (the Ashkenazi) that made up early Hungary, so that makes him particularly repugnant to modern Hungarians.
    , @El Dato
    Ghengis came a few hundred later than Attila (who ventured all the way into todays' France). Ghengis never ventured into Europe.
    , @Corvinus
    "Why doesn’t he state the obvious: conquest and subsequent defense of territory is an ancient and time-honored practice?"

    Because that would require Saileresque noticing on his part. Besides, so long as it was the "good guys" who won, who cares about the aftermath?

    Take into account when Patricks says "Consider what else the “world’s oldest democracy” has lately had on offer to the indigenous peoples of Europe resisting an invasion of Third World settlers coming to occupy and repopulate their lands."

    Were not the tribal groups of North and South America the "indigenous peoples" there, only to be ruthlessly displaced by foreigners? The irony and hypocrisy on his part is thick here.

    And then he has the audacity to say "...in 2042 when white European Christians are just another minority". Indeed, that is how human history works. Dominant groups come and go by the wayside.
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  • Divershity is just that! Birds of a feather is a true realism, we really don’t like other cultures, it’s the way we are. You can’t legislate respect, sooner or later there will be war and since war is good business perhaps that’s the plan. I run a small renovation business in Canada, 40 years now, doing just fine good reputation, never been to court but I have yet to be hired by any minority group for anything. Racism is universal my friends that’s why we live in different neighborhoods, that’s why the white’s are arming themselves, we know it’s coming.

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    It's hard enough for homogeneous groups to get along...impossible for heterogeneous groups.
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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • @Rurik

    Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”
     
    they're constantly trying to bait him.

    The other night he said it was his job to be skeptical, and the guest sneered something to the effect, 'does that include the Holocaust?!'

    Whereupon Tucker had to genuflect his kneejerk servility to the Shoah, as of course we all must.

    But they're doing that to him all the time, and I wonder if it isn't having an effect on Tucker. Day after day he's expected to ignore the zio-elephant in the room, and put on a quizzical look and rhetorically ask, 'why are we in Syria?' 'Why are we bankrupting our future and positioning ourselves for a war with Russia, when it is obviously of zero benefit to Americans to do so?'

    And just as with the Emperors clothes, everyone knows, and everyone carefully avoids speaking the obvious truth. But at least Tucker is asking the right questions, when all of his colleagues are all screeching that we need to bomb Syria and save America from Hitler/Assad/Putin!!!

    I suppose the real question is how did a guy like Tucker even get close to such media prominence. Bill O'Rielly's slot on cable TV is a very significant pulpit from which to catapult the truth. How in the hell did an honest American with traditional sensibilities ever get near such a vaunted perch?

    Are Murdoch's sons less slavishly Zionist than their father is?

    How is it that Tucker isn't aware that his patron Rupert Murdoch is a main board member (as is Rothschild and Dick Cheney and other scum) of Genie Energy, which stands to profit stratospherically from the billions of barrels of oil in the Golan Heights. A plunder of the magnitude that sent the British army into South Africa to steal the gold and diamonds. That they had to put the families of the Dutch farmers (who created the nation in the first place) into concentration/death camps was clearly considered 'worth it', when ((they)) calculated the value of the plunder.

    If it's worth it to subjugate and genocide the S. African Dutch so their nation's resources could be looted by Rothschild, (just as it was "worth it" to cause the cruel death of five hundred thousand Iraqi children), how much less 'worth it' will slaughtering a few hundred thousand Syrians be when you consider all those oil shekels?!

    So I continue to watch him, as long as he continues to ask the right questions.

    Characters like Carlson are far too likely to be part of the overall propaganda effort for me to watch TV just to see them. You’re talking about how the zionists bait him with questions that he has to answer in an approved manner. Doesn’t that have the effect on you of having to accept that he’s lying to them?

    To me, if I decided to watch one of his shows, and some congressman asked him if he cared about Israel and he said, “Of course I care about Israel””, I would just switch it off and conclude that he’s either a stooge for Israel or he’s a liar.

    Maybe he’s on Fox to keep viewers like you watching Fox. I stopped watching TV news in 2001. Seeing a few minutes of it in a waiting room or somewhere like that is enough to make me get up and leave. I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

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    I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.
     
    I know what you mean, but even as they speak in Newspeak, and the ubiquitous mendacity is insulting and grating, I still like to stay informed on the misinformation they're programming into people's minds.

    I can't watch the leftist stuff on CNN and the rest, because it's far too shrill, but I used to watch O'Rielly just to know what the Red state folks were told to think.

    And watching Tucker can be pretty enlightening to just how far off the rails the left has careened.

    Last night the guest host had a guy on who was trying to speak at Harvard law school on free speech, and the Red Guards shut him down, shouting things like "fuck the law!"

    apparently free speech is just code for 'white supremacism', (did you know that?)

    we should be aware that the left is descending into stark madness, where you are guilty by virtue of your gender and hue, and your only acceptable response is 'I'm sorry, and what can I do to make restitution'

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    , @Anon
    I find it hard to criticize you; I certainly don't watch TV talk shows if I can possibly avoid them.

    That said, there's certainly somewhat of a spectrum here on awareness and honesty. Mr. Buchanan, for instance, became "toxic" some years ago and was mostly "deplatformed". Mr. Carlson is less "extreme", but he is certainly useful as, intentionally or unintentionally, a public speaker for unpopular views.

    Apologies for scare quotes, but I think they are merited.
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  • A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country's constitution. To progressives across the West, this was disturbing news. For the bete noire of Orban's campaign was uber-globalist George Soros. And Orban's commitments were to halt any further surrenders of Hungarian sovereignty and independence...
  • anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk “autocrats” and “authoritarians” that have rejected “democracy”? The first and last things he tells us are:

    “A fortnight ago, Viktor Orban and his Fidesz Party won enough seats in the Hungarian parliament to rewrite his country’s constitution.
    ….
    Democracy lacks content. As a political system, it does not engage the heart. And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action.”

    Is there something deplorable about the Hungarians who voted Fidesz? Mr. Buchanan hasn’t explained why he sees Mr. Orban as an “autocrat,” and warned that, “Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.” (I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten. That alarmist rhetoric appears to have come from an April 8 New York Times article, “Hungary Election Gives Orban Big Majority, and Control of Constitution.”) Is that how he sees the 2016 US presidential election?

    Someone else recently noted in commenting about another Buchanan column that he writes to and for an Establishment audience. I’m afraid that “Mr. Paleoconservative” has succumbed to the Beltway arrogance that “we” are the people best fit to rule.

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    And if Europe’s peoples see their leaders as accommodating a transnational EU, while failing to secure national borders, they will use democracy to replace them with men of action.
     
    Missed something?
    , @Zogby

    Why does Mr. Buchanan repeatedly call Mr. Orban and his ilk “autocrats” and “authoritarians”
     
    Hungary prohibits the sale of prepaid SIM cards for mobile phones so it can attain totalitarian control of communication. How is that as a start for you?

    I checked just now to confirm that the constitution of Hungary has not been rewritten.
     
    The election was just 2 weeks ago. Give them time.
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  • But let Monsieur Macron bring in another 5 million former subject peoples of the French Empire and he will discover that the magnanimity and altruism of the French has its limits, and a Le Pen will soon replace him in the Elysee Palace.

    Not likely. With additional immigration and 40% of “French” children born in 2016 having at least one parent of African or Middle East origin, the prospect of a nationalist along the lines of Marine Le Pen being elected are approximately zero. One can only hope that the nations of Eastern Europe will see the unnfolding demographic, political and cultural catastrophe of the U.K., Germany, France and Sweden and decide national suicide is not a good option.

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    You’re right but you left out the USA; over the next twenty five years whites will become a minority and the USA will become a “ majority-minority country.” What’s even worse is that this fact is actually celebrated by the cultural, political and academic “elite” in America as a positive development. Only an idiocracy would think that way.
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  • (((“Modern liberals and progressives”))), (((“Our elites”))). Has the list of euphemisms reached triple digits yet?

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    (((“Modern liberals and progressives”))), (((“Our elites”))). Has the list of euphemisms reached triple digits yet?
     
    this is Buchanan's most anti-Semitic screed yet.

    because they do not see what is happening to the West as a crisis.
     
    "they" huh? Why not just go ahead and use the echoes Pat? Don't you mean (((they))) ?

    And why shouldn't Soros and the rest demand that Hungary too open its borders to diversity? When we all know that Hungarians too, just as all white people are all dormant Nazis- just waiting like sleepers to be activated, and then right on cue, we all know what happens next...

    http://siliconangle.com/files/2016/08/hitler.jpg

    there is one and only one solution to Nazis, whether they're in Hungary, the ZUSA or France

    https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/posts/image/104985/heidi-klum-seal.jpg

    and they'll either accept it willingly, or otherwise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TFukDB1D8
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  • No people can survive without race-ism.

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  • Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Is it authoritarian? Or just autonomous?

    Is it more authoritarian to be ruled by an imperialist like Soros? Or by EU that goes after thought criminals and forces nations to be mass-invaded by Africans and Muslims?

    It’s national authoritarianism vs globalist authoritarianism. Globalists disparage democratic will in Eastern European nations. They way the people must obey the globo elites.

    Who are the real tyrants?

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    Buchanan is normally a pretty smart guy, but in this case he appears to be confused about the meaning of the words autocrat and authoritarian versus liberal democrat. Orban is a democratically elected leader not an autocrat. Pat seems to conflate authoritarianism with taking action, and liberal democracy with passivity.
    “Recall Hitler rose to power through a democratic election.”
    I also recall that Franklin Roosevelt rose to power through a democratic election. So what? Is Orban Hitler or Roosevelt?
    This is one of Buchanan’s silliest articles in a long time.
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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    Naw, don’t think so … Chile is predominantly Spanish, 65% white of European ancestry, the rest mestizo or amerind (very few negros). Some Brits, yes. Argentina does have a lot of Italians, IIRC.

    When we were kids going to the American school in Sao Paulo, the SA “American” schools organized athletic tournaments twice a year. We played baseball, touch football, track and field with kids from American schools all over South America. Major partying went on for three days — nobody gave a damn about the athletics, it was an international make-out session of epic proportion.

    We couldn’t understand the Chilean Spanish, a lot of them being rich Santiago society girls put in an American school for the usual reasons. They were drop-dead gorgeous chiquitas, usually producing testosterone-driven fights. Also, I remember a bit of a scandal when one of the US Consulate’s chaperoning vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    Ah, good times.

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    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.
     
    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer's doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn't take my eyes off of her, I still couldn't get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it's not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!
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  • @Steve Gittelson

    am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.
     
    If you want South America, be advised Uruguay is a bit of a mess. Also, cold in winter.

    In Chile, the three coastal cities of Antofagasta, Iquique, and Arica are bastions of modernity in a stable economy (for as long as the copper lasts -- another 20 years, easy). IMO, climate at the Tropic of Capricorn (Antofagasta) is just about perfect. Iquique is close enough, Arica kinda on the edge, IMO -- especially with its proximity to the Peruvian border.

    If you can stumble through pidgin Spanish already, as most victims of the illegal invasion have been forced to learn, three months of practice with Chileans should be sufficient. Chile does not speak Spanish in quite the same way as the Conquistador areas. Takes getting used to. Also, Chile's population is substantially white European.

    I have my personal choices narrowed down to Iquique, and Lagos or Albufeira in Portugal.

    fascinating

    I sort of use Uruguay as this mythical place not part of the insanity where I now languish, and have wondered what it’s like, but never was really drawn too much to it.

    Your description of Iquique intrigues me, as that’s exactly the kind of place I’d like to check out.

    Been to Costa Rica a few times, and love it, but too many Yankees are going there. Thinking about Panama too.

    my agenda is eventually to travel all around, until I find home. Trying to scrape together some dinero, (know enough Spanish to get by), so I can venture forth.

    The girlfriend is an issue, so that’s probably what’s slowing me down.

    Albufeira looks amazing!

    I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    (I’ve offered my services as travel writer for Unz, but Ron hasn’t contacted me yet :) )

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  • @Rurik

    Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.
     
    like when some guest is frothing over 'Russia meddling in our elections!', and then he says -

    'AIPAC'

    I'm not sure what would happen. I suspect he'd be sent to 'beyond the Pale' for such impertinence.

    PCR has already wondered out loud when some woman will pop up who claims he sexually harassed her.

    But I don't see it so much as Tucker himself, but rather Murdoch's sons. They decide who is on the air during that time slot. They could simply replace him tomorrow with another zio-shill if they were so inclined. So I'm at least hopeful that there's still a shred, however infinitesimal, of hope for the truth to at least not be completely extinguished by zio-lies.

    But I'm not counting on it, and am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    If you want South America, be advised Uruguay is a bit of a mess. Also, cold in winter.

    In Chile, the three coastal cities of Antofagasta, Iquique, and Arica are bastions of modernity in a stable economy (for as long as the copper lasts — another 20 years, easy). IMO, climate at the Tropic of Capricorn (Antofagasta) is just about perfect. Iquique is close enough, Arica kinda on the edge, IMO — especially with its proximity to the Peruvian border.

    If you can stumble through pidgin Spanish already, as most victims of the illegal invasion have been forced to learn, three months of practice with Chileans should be sufficient. Chile does not speak Spanish in quite the same way as the Conquistador areas. Takes getting used to. Also, Chile’s population is substantially white European.

    I have my personal choices narrowed down to Iquique, and Lagos or Albufeira in Portugal.

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    fascinating

    I sort of use Uruguay as this mythical place not part of the insanity where I now languish, and have wondered what it's like, but never was really drawn too much to it.

    Your description of Iquique intrigues me, as that's exactly the kind of place I'd like to check out.

    Been to Costa Rica a few times, and love it, but too many Yankees are going there. Thinking about Panama too.

    my agenda is eventually to travel all around, until I find home. Trying to scrape together some dinero, (know enough Spanish to get by), so I can venture forth.

    The girlfriend is an issue, so that's probably what's slowing me down.

    Albufeira looks amazing!

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xl4ap5IVLJM/TeTF7GFErWI/AAAAAAAAAz4/GImAMzSKBUQ/s1600/Albufeira.JPG

    I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don't know if that's too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    (I've offered my services as travel writer for Unz, but Ron hasn't contacted me yet :) )

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  • @Anon
    Buchanan published "Whose War?" years ago, about Iraq, so I imagine he's not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism. In this case I think he's making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis, with the enthusiastic support of the Gulf Arabs.

    so I imagine he’s not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism

    he’s making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis

    that is my whole criticism

    Pat knows the score, as few others ever will. And if you read his excellent books, his savvy is all too obvious.

    So then why, when he’s writing to a wider audience, must he mute the truth, and deflect from the core issues? When those reading his articles are in far more need of a jostle of hard realties?

    The “stated aims” of our PTB are always lies. From avenging the lives lost on the Lusitania to Assad’s ‘chemical weapons attacks’. Lies that have literally cost millions of lives, and have sent Western civilization spiraling down into depraved damnation and ruin.

    Pat knows all of that. He knows that everything they say is a devil’s lie. He knows that they’re feverishly doing all that’s in their power to eradicate and extinguish the West and her people once and for all. The final solution to their protocols.

    But they’d get nowhere fast were it not for the eager complicity of the entire elite class of goyim.

    I’m not suggesting Pat start railing that the Holocaust was exaggerated or that they lied about 9/11. I’m not suggesting he (suicidally) take them on full on, I’m just saying why repeat their lies?

    Why bolster their credibility? When it’s so much easier simply to tell the obvious truth?

    Everybody with a pulse knows by now that we’re in the Middle East on Israel’s behalf. Duh.

    Half the people are happy we are, (Christian Zionists and others) and a few of the people are not. But surely we don’t need to parrot idiotic absurdities like we’re over there because of our government’s love of Sunni Muslims.

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  • @Rurik

    Buchanan’s conclusion is positively misleading on an issue Buchanan is certainly informed about.

    Has he just lost the stomach for the fight?
     
    not only an issue he's informed about, but the very crux of America's (and England's and France's) pretexts for war.

    Imagine it's 1939, and you alone could prevent WWII from happening, knowing what horrors it would unleash, if only you had the sand to speak truth to power.

    As Mark Green just mentioned, they'll go after you with a netherworld vengeance, like they did Charles Lindbergh, and others. But we're now on the brink of yet another global conflagration, and it's all based on lies and zio-treachery.

    The only way to prevent WWIII (something ((they're)) obviously keen to see happen), is to try to inform as many people as possible to the truth about all their devil's lies. IMHO

    If I were Buchanan, and was getting on in the years, I'd wonder if my life would be best punctuated by a grand opus, a monumentally 'futile and stupid gesture' perhaps, but how better to consummate a distinguished career than to be the man who prevented WWIII?!

    why not spend your golden years in a blaze of glory, rather than pusillanimous (Pat knows what that word means ; ) "respectability"?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=_h4DZeBleLs

    Buchanan published “Whose War?” years ago, about Iraq, so I imagine he’s not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism. In this case I think he’s making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis, with the enthusiastic support of the Gulf Arabs.

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    so I imagine he’s not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism
     

    he’s making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis
     
    that is my whole criticism

    Pat knows the score, as few others ever will. And if you read his excellent books, his savvy is all too obvious.

    So then why, when he's writing to a wider audience, must he mute the truth, and deflect from the core issues? When those reading his articles are in far more need of a jostle of hard realties?

    The "stated aims" of our PTB are always lies. From avenging the lives lost on the Lusitania to Assad's 'chemical weapons attacks'. Lies that have literally cost millions of lives, and have sent Western civilization spiraling down into depraved damnation and ruin.

    Pat knows all of that. He knows that everything they say is a devil's lie. He knows that they're feverishly doing all that's in their power to eradicate and extinguish the West and her people once and for all. The final solution to their protocols.

    But they'd get nowhere fast were it not for the eager complicity of the entire elite class of goyim.

    I'm not suggesting Pat start railing that the Holocaust was exaggerated or that they lied about 9/11. I'm not suggesting he (suicidally) take them on full on, I'm just saying why repeat their lies?

    Why bolster their credibility? When it's so much easier simply to tell the obvious truth?

    Everybody with a pulse knows by now that we're in the Middle East on Israel's behalf. Duh.

    Half the people are happy we are, (Christian Zionists and others) and a few of the people are not. But surely we don't need to parrot idiotic absurdities like we're over there because of our government's love of Sunni Muslims.
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  • No 4-D chess any more. Just the 2 dimensions of mindlessly doing Israel’s bidding and walking back on all his campaign promises.

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  • @NoseytheDuke
    Don't worry Pat, it will be a cakewalk! The Syrian people will welcome US troops with flowers and see them as liberators! The war will be paid for using their oil anyway so it won't cost US taxpayers anything at all! Oh wait, that was Iraq.

    These very damned Iranians now, freely wander around whole Syria and do what they want !! Shitting, oh, I want to say shooting on our armies..They might be in Yeamen too…Yeah, yes man,,too..What can we do ? And who is going to stop them ?
    They fight back , so dangerous , and our freedom terrorists leaving by busloads…

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  • anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Even though US intelligence agencies did not have absolute certainty Syria’s regime had used the nerve agent sarin against civilians, the Trump administration still felt there was enough evidence to justify retaliatory strikes last Friday, several intelligence and defense officials tell CNN.

    Walking back the highly confident assurance.

    The lack of complete information played a role in deciding not to strike a larger set of targets including airfields, aircraft and helicopters, one defense official said. Others factors, like Russian positioning, also played a role in the decisions.

    WTF? That it was ineffective is a feature, not a bug. The desire to make Trump the fool is egging on his enemies.

    Will the narrative unravel?

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  • Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.

    like when some guest is frothing over ‘Russia meddling in our elections!’, and then he says -

    ‘AIPAC’

    I’m not sure what would happen. I suspect he’d be sent to ‘beyond the Pale’ for such impertinence.

    PCR has already wondered out loud when some woman will pop up who claims he sexually harassed her.

    But I don’t see it so much as Tucker himself, but rather Murdoch’s sons. They decide who is on the air during that time slot. They could simply replace him tomorrow with another zio-shill if they were so inclined. So I’m at least hopeful that there’s still a shred, however infinitesimal, of hope for the truth to at least not be completely extinguished by zio-lies.

    But I’m not counting on it, and am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

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    am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.
     
    If you want South America, be advised Uruguay is a bit of a mess. Also, cold in winter.

    In Chile, the three coastal cities of Antofagasta, Iquique, and Arica are bastions of modernity in a stable economy (for as long as the copper lasts -- another 20 years, easy). IMO, climate at the Tropic of Capricorn (Antofagasta) is just about perfect. Iquique is close enough, Arica kinda on the edge, IMO -- especially with its proximity to the Peruvian border.

    If you can stumble through pidgin Spanish already, as most victims of the illegal invasion have been forced to learn, three months of practice with Chileans should be sufficient. Chile does not speak Spanish in quite the same way as the Conquistador areas. Takes getting used to. Also, Chile's population is substantially white European.

    I have my personal choices narrowed down to Iquique, and Lagos or Albufeira in Portugal.
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  • @Rurik

    Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”
     
    they're constantly trying to bait him.

    The other night he said it was his job to be skeptical, and the guest sneered something to the effect, 'does that include the Holocaust?!'

    Whereupon Tucker had to genuflect his kneejerk servility to the Shoah, as of course we all must.

    But they're doing that to him all the time, and I wonder if it isn't having an effect on Tucker. Day after day he's expected to ignore the zio-elephant in the room, and put on a quizzical look and rhetorically ask, 'why are we in Syria?' 'Why are we bankrupting our future and positioning ourselves for a war with Russia, when it is obviously of zero benefit to Americans to do so?'

    And just as with the Emperors clothes, everyone knows, and everyone carefully avoids speaking the obvious truth. But at least Tucker is asking the right questions, when all of his colleagues are all screeching that we need to bomb Syria and save America from Hitler/Assad/Putin!!!

    I suppose the real question is how did a guy like Tucker even get close to such media prominence. Bill O'Rielly's slot on cable TV is a very significant pulpit from which to catapult the truth. How in the hell did an honest American with traditional sensibilities ever get near such a vaunted perch?

    Are Murdoch's sons less slavishly Zionist than their father is?

    How is it that Tucker isn't aware that his patron Rupert Murdoch is a main board member (as is Rothschild and Dick Cheney and other scum) of Genie Energy, which stands to profit stratospherically from the billions of barrels of oil in the Golan Heights. A plunder of the magnitude that sent the British army into South Africa to steal the gold and diamonds. That they had to put the families of the Dutch farmers (who created the nation in the first place) into concentration/death camps was clearly considered 'worth it', when ((they)) calculated the value of the plunder.

    If it's worth it to subjugate and genocide the S. African Dutch so their nation's resources could be looted by Rothschild, (just as it was "worth it" to cause the cruel death of five hundred thousand Iraqi children), how much less 'worth it' will slaughtering a few hundred thousand Syrians be when you consider all those oil shekels?!

    So I continue to watch him, as long as he continues to ask the right questions.

    Yes, he does ask the right questions, so I, too, will continue to watch.

    Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.

    Do you think there would be an immediate call / campaign to remove him? Do you think that FOX would take him off the air the very next night? Do you think that some of the other useful idiots, like the Reverend Al, the Morning Joe type Republicans, and other cucks, who are not part of the ((( tribe ))), would hop on the train?

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