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    MacDonald argues that a suite of genetic and cultural adaptations among Jews constitutes a “group evolutionary strategy.” Their supposed genetic adaptations include, most notably, high intelligence, conscientiousness, and ethnocentrism. According to this thesis, several major intellectual and political movements, such as Boasian anthropology, Freudian psychoanalysis, and multiculturalism, were consciously or unconsciously designed by Jews to...
  • j2 says:

    The article makes a reference to the suggestion by Cochran, Hardy and Harpending that Ashkenazi Jewish IQ would be heterozygote advantage of some recessive lethal alleles. This suggestion is provably wrong and should not be repeated any longer. If there would be heterozygote advantage in a two allele system where one allele is recessive and lethal, the carrier frequency p and the disease prevalence q would relate in first order as q=0.75p^2, but measurements show that they relate as
    q=0.25p^2, which is the result without heterozygote advantage. You find a mathematical analysis of this system in

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/recessive_advantage_paper.pdf

    If not interested in the calculations, just scan the text. It is shown that heterozygote advantage cannot explain Ashkenazi IQ, nor persistance of recessive lethal alleles, but a new mechanism is proposed that can explain the latter.

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  • anon[862] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tbbh
    Here is a fun game to play with KMac "true believers":

    "What lead you to read KMac and what did you think of jews BEFORE you read him?"

    The answers will never surprise you.

    Remember: Kristalnacht happened because aryans were angered that jewish kosher shops and synagogues were unfairly competing with aryan kosher shops and aryan synagogues...

    Checkmate! That’s how I demonstrate the earth must be flat too. I ask people before they read a book about planetary science or make a physical scientific observation what they think about the shape of the earth and 999/1000 BOOM! Their pre-existing prejudices give them away for the ignorant sheep they are, blindly accepting the ‘science’ showing the earth is round. Of course their experiments and theories always agree.

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  • @Nathan Cofnas
    My comments on Kevin MacDonald's response to this article: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323918530_Kevin_MacDonald%27s_Response_with_Comments_by_Nathan_Cofnas

    Second reply from Professor MacDonald to Nathan Cofnas:

    Abstract
    Nathan Cofnas has responded to my reply to his Human Nature article on my book, The Culture of Critique. These are my comments on his reply.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324164802_SECOND_REPLY_TO_NATHAN_COFNAS

    [...]

    Kevin MacDonald
    ‏@TOOEdit

    My second reply to Nathan Cofnas. Warning: it is long and tedious but, I think necessary.

    http://www.unz.com/article/reply-to-nathan-cofnas/#comment-2271448

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  • @Art
    Now you resort to calling me an “honorary Jew”. I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Dear Mr. Honorary Little Jew Corvinus,

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Clearly you have a modicum of intelligence. But you lack the courage to believe what you see. Clearly Israel is in the wrong – clearly Netanyahu is the savage.

    If you are a Little Jew or not is irrelevant – you are an enabler.

    I am helping the Jews see the truth about themselves – you help them avoid the truth. They will suffer because of YOU - not me.

    I ask for Peace – I ask for no harm – you support barbarianism and continued war.

    Get a life!

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    “Clearly you have a modicum of intelligence. But you lack the courage to believe what you see. Clearly Israel is in the wrong – clearly Netanyahu is the savage.”

    Continuing to call me an honorary Jew when it clearly is an absolute falsehood, combined with your outright refusal to clean up your own little mess within the White community, only demonstrates that your barbarianism has no boundaries.

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  • Art says:
    @Corvinus
    Now you resort to calling me an "honorary Jew". I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Now, you asserted that "American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage."

    So, cannot each individual Little White exercise their liberty and freedom of association to make their own decisions about including groups of people who are different? Why are you opposed to their freedom?

    Now you resort to calling me an “honorary Jew”. I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Dear Mr. Honorary Little Jew Corvinus,

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Clearly you have a modicum of intelligence. But you lack the courage to believe what you see. Clearly Israel is in the wrong – clearly Netanyahu is the savage.

    If you are a Little Jew or not is irrelevant – you are an enabler.

    I am helping the Jews see the truth about themselves – you help them avoid the truth. They will suffer because of YOU – not me.

    I ask for Peace – I ask for no harm – you support barbarianism and continued war.

    Get a life!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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    "Clearly you have a modicum of intelligence. But you lack the courage to believe what you see. Clearly Israel is in the wrong – clearly Netanyahu is the savage."

    Continuing to call me an honorary Jew when it clearly is an absolute falsehood, combined with your outright refusal to clean up your own little mess within the White community, only demonstrates that your barbarianism has no boundaries.
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  • @Art
    Mr. Honorary Jew Corvinus,

    This is your big day – Passover!

    Your god sent “angles” to kill Egyptian children. You have been celebrating this death and killing make-believe story for three thousand years. How sick! How inferior! How totally disgusting!

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    p.s. Are today’s IDF killers in Gaza – “angles.”

    Now you resort to calling me an “honorary Jew”. I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Now, you asserted that “American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage.”

    So, cannot each individual Little White exercise their liberty and freedom of association to make their own decisions about including groups of people who are different? Why are you opposed to their freedom?

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    Now you resort to calling me an “honorary Jew”. I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Dear Mr. Honorary Little Jew Corvinus,

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Clearly you have a modicum of intelligence. But you lack the courage to believe what you see. Clearly Israel is in the wrong – clearly Netanyahu is the savage.

    If you are a Little Jew or not is irrelevant – you are an enabler.

    I am helping the Jews see the truth about themselves – you help them avoid the truth. They will suffer because of YOU - not me.

    I ask for Peace – I ask for no harm – you support barbarianism and continued war.

    Get a life!

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

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  • @Corvinus
    "Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture."

    You as a Little White allowed it to happen. You are responsible. Focus on cleaning up the mess by your own tribe.

    "American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage."

    But you are a Little White! You let it happen. Are you going to look in the mirror and take the blame?

    OR, perhaps each individual Little White, who by exercising their liberty and freedom of association, made their own decisions about including groups of people who are different. IF that be the case, why are you opposed to their freedom?

    "But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years."

    That is patently false.

    https://watermark.silverchair.com/23-2-275.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAaEwggGdBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggGOMIIBigIBADCCAYMGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMtY2rzuA8O5XokcOrAgEQgIIBVKW2Bw3uXPOB39682jcDCsl4a-1f20KactisKKHbxV7sw-FvM1sDZitxYeDpfZLSTT8bIVfV7N9c1v0OyS7Mztxz-JRQRBCKBUfkOMRwipDBOizgijp9pzCmzR--EOud8RqxZqM0Ckr14zK-oFLKb4T3U179ncmqBkVktLjwF5v0LYOc8HtLz6xccvtr9Qcv-O6P8rIMkJ9wVATAP7GKOrC7j6rQ6L12fXYBQqrD2IOmYXcweJMDJAr-GRqKn4W9-AtX9urp3LdKmM-escn6vUH3WvyLRd9HNqZMkNM_WRXiWWLg5z-O4phyHvndYGq5mIDst2_EdC_enFQgUc2-tQ55ov7xIBv_lmyM3PwELI0qw66akfgdffHRFLhGk7ljbbPkpBU_YiFjIhfajT5JE_k0HCVxE8QYTt1BxpRY4Eeff7UzYfoQ3OyC2rJ28XXqHSxjOSQ

    https://hartman.org.il/Resorce_Center_View.asp?Article_Id=1539&Cat_Id=439&Cat_Type=Resorce_Center

    "What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews."

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch.

    "You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement."

    Are you related to the Big Bad Wolf by chance?

    "Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites."

    If that be the case, then why are Jews dominant and you lamenting about it?

    Mr. Honorary Jew Corvinus,

    This is your big day – Passover!

    Your god sent “angles” to kill Egyptian children. You have been celebrating this death and killing make-believe story for three thousand years. How sick! How inferior! How totally disgusting!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Are today’s IDF killers in Gaza – “angles.”

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    Now you resort to calling me an "honorary Jew". I suppose a savage like yourself has to denigrate others for your own barbarianism.

    Now, you asserted that "American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage."

    So, cannot each individual Little White exercise their liberty and freedom of association to make their own decisions about including groups of people who are different? Why are you opposed to their freedom?
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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    So much whimpering. I have newer encountered.
    Can somebody to come up with solution how to eliminate Jewish power without actually harming Jews physically?
    Maybe Wally?

    Actually, this one is somewhat straightforward.

    Hold everyone to the EXACT same moral, qualifications and judgment standards. No preferences, no passes, no regard for any past history whatsoever. Someone points out the Colonial Era – you retort “It’s the current year”. – and you say “That was then and there, this is here and now”. If they froth at the mouth, why all the better.

    Ignore unfounded slander and libel, you should not have to be on the defense against hysterical cries of racism and anti-Semitism if it simply isn’t true. That is Anglo-Saxon tradition, isn’t it? The burden must be on the accuser, not the accused.

    And be vigilant legally and institutionally against any sort of in-group religious, geographical, occupational, ethnic or class-based “networking”, preferential treatment or nepotism. The merest suggestion that promotions and hiring or acceptance at universities is not completely impartial should be the subjected to vigorous investigation, and if needed legal punishment.

    I believe that all these measures will weed out those who are unfit to have success, wealth or power, and would allow the meritocratic ideals to once again rule our society, (if they ever did).

    Anyway, that’s just a start.

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  • @Art
    Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups.

    Corvinus,

    Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture.

    American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage.

    But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years.

    What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews. You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement.

    Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    “Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture.”

    You as a Little White allowed it to happen. You are responsible. Focus on cleaning up the mess by your own tribe.

    “American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage.”

    But you are a Little White! You let it happen. Are you going to look in the mirror and take the blame?

    OR, perhaps each individual Little White, who by exercising their liberty and freedom of association, made their own decisions about including groups of people who are different. IF that be the case, why are you opposed to their freedom?

    “But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years.”

    That is patently false.

    https://watermark.silverchair.com/23-2-275.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAaEwggGdBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggGOMIIBigIBADCCAYMGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMtY2rzuA8O5XokcOrAgEQgIIBVKW2Bw3uXPOB39682jcDCsl4a-1f20KactisKKHbxV7sw-FvM1sDZitxYeDpfZLSTT8bIVfV7N9c1v0OyS7Mztxz-JRQRBCKBUfkOMRwipDBOizgijp9pzCmzR–EOud8RqxZqM0Ckr14zK-oFLKb4T3U179ncmqBkVktLjwF5v0LYOc8HtLz6xccvtr9Qcv-O6P8rIMkJ9wVATAP7GKOrC7j6rQ6L12fXYBQqrD2IOmYXcweJMDJAr-GRqKn4W9-AtX9urp3LdKmM-escn6vUH3WvyLRd9HNqZMkNM_WRXiWWLg5z-O4phyHvndYGq5mIDst2_EdC_enFQgUc2-tQ55ov7xIBv_lmyM3PwELI0qw66akfgdffHRFLhGk7ljbbPkpBU_YiFjIhfajT5JE_k0HCVxE8QYTt1BxpRY4Eeff7UzYfoQ3OyC2rJ28XXqHSxjOSQ

    https://hartman.org.il/Resorce_Center_View.asp?Article_Id=1539&Cat_Id=439&Cat_Type=Resorce_Center

    “What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews.”

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not Jewish. I’m Polish, German, and Dutch.

    “You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement.”

    Are you related to the Big Bad Wolf by chance?

    “Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites.”

    If that be the case, then why are Jews dominant and you lamenting about it?

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    Mr. Honorary Jew Corvinus,

    This is your big day – Passover!

    Your god sent “angles” to kill Egyptian children. You have been celebrating this death and killing make-believe story for three thousand years. How sick! How inferior! How totally disgusting!

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    p.s. Are today’s IDF killers in Gaza – “angles.”
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  • @renfro
    Collective punishment, rightly or wrongly, has always been the way of the world.

    Jews hold all of Europe and non Jews responsible for the Holocaust and are still punishing Germany 3 generations later.

    Blacks hold whites collectively responsible for slavery and still now 2 generations later.

    Jews will be held collectively responsible for the Zionism damage to the world.

    That's just the way the cookies crumble.

    “Jews hold all of Europe…”

    No. The British hold Great Britain. Germans hold Germany. Etc.

    “Blacks hold whites collectively responsible for slavery and still now 2 generations later.”

    No, blacks hold those Africans who worked with white Europeans responsible for slavery. Remember, it was Europeans who built up slavery because they wanted a cheap labor force. It’s in their DNA to invade and destroy.

    “Jews will be held collectively responsible for the Zionism damage to the world.”

    No, individual Jews are responsible. That’s how it works.

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  • @Corvinus
    "Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done."

    Again, if we employ your logic, then you, as a Little White (assuming you are white), are also held accountable for what the Big Whites have done. In fact, since you are so prominent in your community, you, as a Little White, are even more culpable for the exploitation and machinations conducted by your own tribe. Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups. See, most Whites are true tribal members (even if they do not realize it). No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Whites. There must be a real substantial Little White backlash against Big Whites. Again, clean up YOUR mess.

    Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups.

    Corvinus,

    Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture.

    American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage.

    But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years.

    What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews. You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement.

    Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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    "Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture."

    You as a Little White allowed it to happen. You are responsible. Focus on cleaning up the mess by your own tribe.

    "American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage."

    But you are a Little White! You let it happen. Are you going to look in the mirror and take the blame?

    OR, perhaps each individual Little White, who by exercising their liberty and freedom of association, made their own decisions about including groups of people who are different. IF that be the case, why are you opposed to their freedom?

    "But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years."

    That is patently false.

    https://watermark.silverchair.com/23-2-275.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAaEwggGdBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggGOMIIBigIBADCCAYMGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMtY2rzuA8O5XokcOrAgEQgIIBVKW2Bw3uXPOB39682jcDCsl4a-1f20KactisKKHbxV7sw-FvM1sDZitxYeDpfZLSTT8bIVfV7N9c1v0OyS7Mztxz-JRQRBCKBUfkOMRwipDBOizgijp9pzCmzR--EOud8RqxZqM0Ckr14zK-oFLKb4T3U179ncmqBkVktLjwF5v0LYOc8HtLz6xccvtr9Qcv-O6P8rIMkJ9wVATAP7GKOrC7j6rQ6L12fXYBQqrD2IOmYXcweJMDJAr-GRqKn4W9-AtX9urp3LdKmM-escn6vUH3WvyLRd9HNqZMkNM_WRXiWWLg5z-O4phyHvndYGq5mIDst2_EdC_enFQgUc2-tQ55ov7xIBv_lmyM3PwELI0qw66akfgdffHRFLhGk7ljbbPkpBU_YiFjIhfajT5JE_k0HCVxE8QYTt1BxpRY4Eeff7UzYfoQ3OyC2rJ28XXqHSxjOSQ

    https://hartman.org.il/Resorce_Center_View.asp?Article_Id=1539&Cat_Id=439&Cat_Type=Resorce_Center

    "What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews."

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch.

    "You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement."

    Are you related to the Big Bad Wolf by chance?

    "Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites."

    If that be the case, then why are Jews dominant and you lamenting about it?
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  • @Corvinus
    "Pray tell – you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale – are you?"

    That would be your strawman.

    "You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you?"

    Of course you can question Jew ethics. But the question remains--are you that intense with ALL groups when it comes to their individual members breaking the law?

    "Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?"

    Of course not. But then the devil is in the details, right?

    "Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same.

    Absolutely.

    "The same with the Jew MSM."

    You mean mainstream media.

    "Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation."

    You mean SOME Jews present a pattern of dishonesty, just like some Whites, or Blacks, or Asians, or Europeans, or...

    "Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices."

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively. Otherwise, using your logic, one can use it to hold accountable ALL Europeans for engaging in the slave trade and imposing their will on the rest of the world through brute force. Imperialism, now aint' that a mother.

    Collective punishment, rightly or wrongly, has always been the way of the world.

    Jews hold all of Europe and non Jews responsible for the Holocaust and are still punishing Germany 3 generations later.

    Blacks hold whites collectively responsible for slavery and still now 2 generations later.

    Jews will be held collectively responsible for the Zionism damage to the world.

    That’s just the way the cookies crumble.

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    "Jews hold all of Europe..."

    No. The British hold Great Britain. Germans hold Germany. Etc.

    "Blacks hold whites collectively responsible for slavery and still now 2 generations later."

    No, blacks hold those Africans who worked with white Europeans responsible for slavery. Remember, it was Europeans who built up slavery because they wanted a cheap labor force. It's in their DNA to invade and destroy.

    "Jews will be held collectively responsible for the Zionism damage to the world."

    No, individual Jews are responsible. That's how it works.
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  • @Tbbh
    Perhaps they should organize better, study harder, and not have patently racist tiki torch parades, where they keep blowing themselves out of the water.

    By "european", do you mean my Swiss and German family or Greek and Sicilian goat farmers?

    Whites are genetically selected for openness so we are susceptible to jew entry, we dont want to turn our nations into shettles constantly having to be on guard. So we let things slide for a while then crack down. Youre arguing against another crackdown coming you ought to be packing but thats your call. Whites do fine without jews jews on the other hand cant actually get nobel prizes and manage nations at the same time its a parasitic strategy. Its a shame really you could have been whites as you hint your as white as bulgarians but you wont assimilate so you remain outsiders parasites and eventually we get sick of the games your paranoid personalities insist must be played to assure your security in nations youre gaming. yeah to quote that jew its a catch 22, so you will walk away from this next expulsion blaming everyone else but yourselves. But do you ever wonder why no ones notices greeks italians irish in anglosphere nations, its because they assimilated.

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  • @ANON
    Some - a small number with little representation in Ashkenazi DNA - of Khazars converted. What on earth makes you think you have anything to say about Jews worth cluttering up UR with if you haven't read up the work on DNA studies of Jewish ancestry and aren't even aware of Arthur Koestler's mythmaking?

    Why no substantiated proof?

    Who made your DNA assertion, with what credibility, what cui bono?

    Q: Does this man look Semitic?

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  • ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @skrik

    Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth
     
    Err, truth is a binary switch; either on or off, so "just enough truth" hardly computes - whatever.

    Lemma 1:

    Empty pots make the most noise.

    Lemma 2:

    It is an axiom ... never to believe anything until it has been officially denied.

    A Quote:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, ...

    One may get the inkling, that things in this 'Judaic' topic, anything and/or everything, may be more than just a bit 'controversial,' and what's needed is an independent *credible* authority.

    In this light, could ANON[436] kindly 1) provide a proof that Jews-as-Khazarians is a myth, and 2) which specific bits in that myth are true? rgds

    Some – a small number with little representation in Ashkenazi DNA – of Khazars converted. What on earth makes you think you have anything to say about Jews worth cluttering up UR with if you haven’t read up the work on DNA studies of Jewish ancestry and aren’t even aware of Arthur Koestler’s mythmaking?

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    Why no substantiated proof?

    Who made your DNA assertion, with what credibility, what cui bono?

    Q: Does this man look Semitic?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4285292-3x2-340x227.jpg

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  • @Art

    “Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.”

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively
     
    Corvinus,

    100% correct – I do NOT believe in collective punishment.

    Two points. First, I am not everyone. Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done.

    The second point is that there is a collective guilt on the part of the Jews. Most Jews are true tribal members. No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Jews. The Little Jews have done nothing to reign in the Big Jews. They are loyal to the Zuckerbergs of this world.

    Where are the “Jews for the First Amendment?” There must be a real substantial Jewish backlash against Jew organizations that squelch free speech. That means an attack on the ADL.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    “Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done.”

    Again, if we employ your logic, then you, as a Little White (assuming you are white), are also held accountable for what the Big Whites have done. In fact, since you are so prominent in your community, you, as a Little White, are even more culpable for the exploitation and machinations conducted by your own tribe. Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups. See, most Whites are true tribal members (even if they do not realize it). No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Whites. There must be a real substantial Little White backlash against Big Whites. Again, clean up YOUR mess.

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    Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups.

    Corvinus,

    Clearly Little Whites in America have changed, they have gone counter to the Big White culture.

    American Little Whites have (foolishly) accepted Jews into their culture, Little Whites have elected a black president, and Little Whites have accepted gay marriage.

    But we see ZERO confrontation between Big Jews and Little Jews. Nothing has changed for thousands of years.

    What the hell is wrong with you Little Jews. You are lemmings – foolishly running in a pack behind your Big Jews, dangerously approaching the cliff of world condemnation. You Little Jews do not have the moral courage or backbone to change you culture, as the Little Whites have. Your culture stymie’s moral advancement.

    Clearly you Jews are inferior to Whites.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art
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  • @ANON
    If you write so obsessively and at such great length about Jews yet haven't taken the elementary trouble to understand the source and errors of the Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth in it to encourage braxen liars) you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

    Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth

    Err, truth is a binary switch; either on or off, so “just enough truth” hardly computes – whatever.

    Lemma 1:

    Empty pots make the most noise.

    Lemma 2:

    It is an axiom … never to believe anything until it has been officially denied.

    A Quote:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, …

    One may get the inkling, that things in this ‘Judaic’ topic, anything and/or everything, may be more than just a bit ‘controversial,’ and what’s needed is an independent *credible* authority.

    In this light, could ANON[436] kindly 1) provide a proof that Jews-as-Khazarians is a myth, and 2) which specific bits in that myth are true? rgds

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    Some - a small number with little representation in Ashkenazi DNA - of Khazars converted. What on earth makes you think you have anything to say about Jews worth cluttering up UR with if you haven't read up the work on DNA studies of Jewish ancestry and aren't even aware of Arthur Koestler's mythmaking?
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  • @Tbbh
    [In comments, allcaps is shouting. Stop shouting if you want your comments published.]

    BTW: WHAT IN THE EVER LOVING FOOK DOES BASELINE IQ HAVE TO DO WITH NOT LOOKING TO HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE OFTEN WISHED YOU DEAD OR DEPORTED.

    Be a fine country we'd have, getting rid of all jews, but being forced to hang on to amerinds and puerto ricans.

    Bet ya never thought about that.

    This is for the moderator. The user of CAPS may not be metaphorically shouting but using the only means he has for emphssis or making a distinction on a mobile phone. I can use Bold and Italics in the Rich Text option on my cell phone’s email app but not on Unz Review.

    Could the moderator please take note. It would be good to have a Rich Text option. Those in favour….please indicate.

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  • @skrik
    “That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.”

    A somewhat double-sided thesis, especially when jousting with a perceived enemy, such as Jews, say - or even with connection-denying non-Jews strenuously defending Jews, so therefore in a way, crypto-Jews. [A corollary of the 'Pottery Barn' rule = you break it, you own it = you pay for it. This forum is not some sort of 'moot court;' you defend them, you join them = you *make yourself* one of them.] Especially when what/whom you defend is the illegitimate entity evilly squatting on Palestine, mostly populated by invading alien, supreme international crime = murdering for Lebensraum criminals [their heirs and successors] - who in turn, are drawn from and supported by the entire Jewish [mostly Khazar-descended = *non*-Semite, *non*-Hebrew = fake-joo] tribe. Who in turn parasitically infest 'the West' plus much of the rest, Oh woe!

    KISS:

    [COED:] Occam's razor (also Ockham's razor)
    noun the scientific principle that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary.

    We can make a looong story short, merely by posing a few pertinent Qs:

    1. Can it be determined, if the presence of Jews is more or less harmful to the whole wide world?

    2. Can it be determined, if the presence of Israel is more or less harmful to the ME and/or the wider world?

    3. Most important, could non-Jews [aka the charmingly termed 'Goys;' the term "goyim" means "cattle" in Hebrew] live a satisfactory life, in the total *absence* of Jews?

    4. Speaking of *absence* of Jews, could the US so recover their nation?

    Readers are encouraged to extend this 'line of inquiry.'

    I have recently proposed 2 practical, inclusive solutions, 1) for Palestine, RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation and 2) for all Jews, 'marching orders' and travel documents/tickets to the moon ... err, to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, administrative centre being the town of Birobidzhan in the Russian Far East. IMHO, both worth a fair try. rgds

    If you write so obsessively and at such great length about Jews yet haven’t taken the elementary trouble to understand the source and errors of the Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth in it to encourage braxen liars) you don’t deserve to be taken seriously.

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    Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth
     
    Err, truth is a binary switch; either on or off, so "just enough truth" hardly computes - whatever.

    Lemma 1:

    Empty pots make the most noise.

    Lemma 2:

    It is an axiom ... never to believe anything until it has been officially denied.

    A Quote:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, ...

    One may get the inkling, that things in this 'Judaic' topic, anything and/or everything, may be more than just a bit 'controversial,' and what's needed is an independent *credible* authority.

    In this light, could ANON[436] kindly 1) provide a proof that Jews-as-Khazarians is a myth, and 2) which specific bits in that myth are true? rgds

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  • @Corvinus
    "Pray tell – you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale – are you?"

    That would be your strawman.

    "You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you?"

    Of course you can question Jew ethics. But the question remains--are you that intense with ALL groups when it comes to their individual members breaking the law?

    "Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?"

    Of course not. But then the devil is in the details, right?

    "Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same.

    Absolutely.

    "The same with the Jew MSM."

    You mean mainstream media.

    "Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation."

    You mean SOME Jews present a pattern of dishonesty, just like some Whites, or Blacks, or Asians, or Europeans, or...

    "Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices."

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively. Otherwise, using your logic, one can use it to hold accountable ALL Europeans for engaging in the slave trade and imposing their will on the rest of the world through brute force. Imperialism, now aint' that a mother.

    “Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.”

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively

    Corvinus,

    100% correct – I do NOT believe in collective punishment.

    Two points. First, I am not everyone. Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done.

    The second point is that there is a collective guilt on the part of the Jews. Most Jews are true tribal members. No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Jews. The Little Jews have done nothing to reign in the Big Jews. They are loyal to the Zuckerbergs of this world.

    Where are the “Jews for the First Amendment?” There must be a real substantial Jewish backlash against Jew organizations that squelch free speech. That means an attack on the ADL.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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    "Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done."

    Again, if we employ your logic, then you, as a Little White (assuming you are white), are also held accountable for what the Big Whites have done. In fact, since you are so prominent in your community, you, as a Little White, are even more culpable for the exploitation and machinations conducted by your own tribe. Clearly, you, as part of the Little Whites, have done nothing to reign in the Big Whites. Focus on cleaning up YOUR mess you made before directing attention at other groups. See, most Whites are true tribal members (even if they do not realize it). No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Whites. There must be a real substantial Little White backlash against Big Whites. Again, clean up YOUR mess.
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  • @Art

    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law–conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white–or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?
     
    Corvinus,

    Pray tell - you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale - are you? You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you? Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?

    Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same. The same with the Jew MSM. Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation.

    Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.

    Jesus said "live by the sword - die by the sword." Well Jews live by the tribe and will be held accountable by the tribe.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    “Pray tell – you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale – are you?”

    That would be your strawman.

    “You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you?”

    Of course you can question Jew ethics. But the question remains–are you that intense with ALL groups when it comes to their individual members breaking the law?

    “Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?”

    Of course not. But then the devil is in the details, right?

    “Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same.

    Absolutely.

    “The same with the Jew MSM.”

    You mean mainstream media.

    “Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation.”

    You mean SOME Jews present a pattern of dishonesty, just like some Whites, or Blacks, or Asians, or Europeans, or…

    “Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.”

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively. Otherwise, using your logic, one can use it to hold accountable ALL Europeans for engaging in the slave trade and imposing their will on the rest of the world through brute force. Imperialism, now aint’ that a mother.

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    “Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.”

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively
     
    Corvinus,

    100% correct – I do NOT believe in collective punishment.

    Two points. First, I am not everyone. Little Jews are fools to think that they will not be held accountable for what the Big Jews have done.

    The second point is that there is a collective guilt on the part of the Jews. Most Jews are true tribal members. No matter their stripe, they irrationally support all Jews. The Little Jews have done nothing to reign in the Big Jews. They are loyal to the Zuckerbergs of this world.

    Where are the “Jews for the First Amendment?” There must be a real substantial Jewish backlash against Jew organizations that squelch free speech. That means an attack on the ADL.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art
    , @renfro
    Collective punishment, rightly or wrongly, has always been the way of the world.

    Jews hold all of Europe and non Jews responsible for the Holocaust and are still punishing Germany 3 generations later.

    Blacks hold whites collectively responsible for slavery and still now 2 generations later.

    Jews will be held collectively responsible for the Zionism damage to the world.

    That's just the way the cookies crumble.
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  • @Corvinus
    "Here is a “version of truth” that you avoid talking about – here is a little hell on Earth Jew style. Jews spying on America."

    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law--conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white--or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?

    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law–conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white–or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?

    Corvinus,

    Pray tell – you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale – are you? You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you? Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?

    Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same. The same with the Jew MSM. Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation.

    Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.

    Jesus said “live by the sword – die by the sword.” Well Jews live by the tribe and will be held accountable by the tribe.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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    "Pray tell – you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale – are you?"

    That would be your strawman.

    "You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you?"

    Of course you can question Jew ethics. But the question remains--are you that intense with ALL groups when it comes to their individual members breaking the law?

    "Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?"

    Of course not. But then the devil is in the details, right?

    "Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same.

    Absolutely.

    "The same with the Jew MSM."

    You mean mainstream media.

    "Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation."

    You mean SOME Jews present a pattern of dishonesty, just like some Whites, or Blacks, or Asians, or Europeans, or...

    "Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices."

    No, you mean as individual Jews, not Jews collectively. Otherwise, using your logic, one can use it to hold accountable ALL Europeans for engaging in the slave trade and imposing their will on the rest of the world through brute force. Imperialism, now aint' that a mother.
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  • @Art
    “Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance.”

    Corvinus,

    Here is a "version of truth" that you avoid talking about - here is a little hell on Earth Jew style.

    Jews spying on America.

    Apple's Tim Cook rebukes Zuckerberg over Facebook's business model

    Apple’s chief executive, Tim Cook, issued a harsh rebuke of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook’s business model on Wednesday, saying that detailed profiles of individuals compiled by internet platforms should not exist.

    “We could make a ton of money if we monetized our customers, if our customers were our product,” Cook said in an interview with Recode and MSNBC that will air on 6 April. “We’ve elected not to do that … We’re not going to traffic in your personal life. Privacy to us is a human right, a civil liberty.”

    Cook also said that it is past time to regulate Facebook. “I think the best regulation is no regulation, is self-regulation,” he said. “However, I think we’re beyond that here.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/28/facebook-apple-tim-cook-zuckerberg-business-model

     

    Giant unethical Jew behavior - lets talk about that!

    Think Peace - Do no Harm ---- Art

    “Here is a “version of truth” that you avoid talking about – here is a little hell on Earth Jew style. Jews spying on America.”

    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law–conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white–or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?

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    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law–conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white–or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?
     
    Corvinus,

    Pray tell - you are not saying that Google and Facebook are everyday mom and pop shops squeezing the last nickel out of every sale - are you? You are not saying that we cannot question Jew ethics – are you? Is questioning Zuckerberg, Brin, and Page, anti-Semitic?

    Zuckerberg’s dishonest ethics (“I will not sell you data”) are devastating to the American ethos of free speech. Google the same. The same with the Jew MSM. Jews present a pattern of dishonesty. It is unnatural to not acknowledge this situation.

    Sorry, but Jews will be held accountable, as Jews, for their business practices.

    Jesus said "live by the sword - die by the sword." Well Jews live by the tribe and will be held accountable by the tribe.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

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  • @Corvinus
    "Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance."

    Here is a primer to help you.

    http://factmyth.com/the-nature-of-truth-and-the-different-types-of-truth/

    "Corvinus [hereafter Ditto] didn’t do dialectic [so much if any at all], but mostly misinterpretation, non sequiturs and red herrings, furphies etc. = anything but stick to my theme."

    You have to offer specific examples here rather than just merely state it.

    "That’s not a response so much as an irresponsibility. My post of March 28, 2018 at 6:51 am GMT stands, totally without regard to or effect from Ditto’s graffiti and attempted distractions, diversions etc.."

    Again, offer specific examples rather than a broad generalization.

    "A posited explanation for ditto’s tantrums is: S/he just can’t face the facts in that post, eh?"

    I would look in the mirror first before you make that accusation.

    “Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance.”

    Corvinus,

    Here is a “version of truth” that you avoid talking about – here is a little hell on Earth Jew style.

    Jews spying on America.

    Apple’s Tim Cook rebukes Zuckerberg over Facebook’s business model

    Apple’s chief executive, Tim Cook, issued a harsh rebuke of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook’s business model on Wednesday, saying that detailed profiles of individuals compiled by internet platforms should not exist.

    “We could make a ton of money if we monetized our customers, if our customers were our product,” Cook said in an interview with Recode and MSNBC that will air on 6 April. “We’ve elected not to do that … We’re not going to traffic in your personal life. Privacy to us is a human right, a civil liberty.”

    Cook also said that it is past time to regulate Facebook. “I think the best regulation is no regulation, is self-regulation,” he said. “However, I think we’re beyond that here.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/28/facebook-apple-tim-cook-zuckerberg-business-model

    Giant unethical Jew behavior – lets talk about that!

    Think Peace – Do no Harm —- Art

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    "Here is a “version of truth” that you avoid talking about – here is a little hell on Earth Jew style. Jews spying on America."

    You mean, a Jew engaging in shady business practices. Praytell, are you this intense with ALL people who break the law--conservative and liberal, Jew and non-Jew, white or non-white--or just one group that you have an absolute fixation on?
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  • anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    “After arguing so strenuously that liberal movements were designed to advance a Jewish group evolutionary strategy, he acknowledges that Jews are also in the vanguard in the fight against those same movements.”

    we see this interesting phenomena in numerous situations . Turing against Soviet after Stalin,turning against Black’s after achieving access to power, and academia, turning against Britain after accomplishing numerical sufficiency in Palestine, self describing them as resistor to colonization after promising British that they would safeguard the British imperial interest in ME and S Asia . The list goes on and on. The movement has been at forefront for freedom of expression and liberty But has been instrumental in forcing academia, government and media to ban,to censor,to blacklist,to throw out of jobs those and their writings they did not like . They have abused the UN They have abused the power who control the UN They have bribed the members of the UN They have repeatedly used UN to their goals . Now for last 60 yrs they have been blocking UN to pursue the goals UN is mandated to do. Same is true of IAEA and the Chemical Weapons monitoring agency.

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  • “Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance.”

    Here is a primer to help you.

    http://factmyth.com/the-nature-of-truth-and-the-different-types-of-truth/

    “Corvinus [hereafter Ditto] didn’t do dialectic [so much if any at all], but mostly misinterpretation, non sequiturs and red herrings, furphies etc. = anything but stick to my theme.”

    You have to offer specific examples here rather than just merely state it.

    “That’s not a response so much as an irresponsibility. My post of March 28, 2018 at 6:51 am GMT stands, totally without regard to or effect from Ditto’s graffiti and attempted distractions, diversions etc..”

    Again, offer specific examples rather than a broad generalization.

    “A posited explanation for ditto’s tantrums is: S/he just can’t face the facts in that post, eh?”

    I would look in the mirror first before you make that accusation.

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    “Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance.”

    Corvinus,

    Here is a "version of truth" that you avoid talking about - here is a little hell on Earth Jew style.

    Jews spying on America.

    Apple's Tim Cook rebukes Zuckerberg over Facebook's business model

    Apple’s chief executive, Tim Cook, issued a harsh rebuke of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook’s business model on Wednesday, saying that detailed profiles of individuals compiled by internet platforms should not exist.

    “We could make a ton of money if we monetized our customers, if our customers were our product,” Cook said in an interview with Recode and MSNBC that will air on 6 April. “We’ve elected not to do that … We’re not going to traffic in your personal life. Privacy to us is a human right, a civil liberty.”

    Cook also said that it is past time to regulate Facebook. “I think the best regulation is no regulation, is self-regulation,” he said. “However, I think we’re beyond that here.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/28/facebook-apple-tim-cook-zuckerberg-business-model

     

    Giant unethical Jew behavior - lets talk about that!

    Think Peace - Do no Harm ---- Art
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  • @Corvinus
    "Tut-tut; sensitive, much?"

    I see you had your projection for breakfast. You feeling better?

    "Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:"

    YOUR version of truth.

    "“Life after death” is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is – err, THE END, FINITO for all people."

    It is possible that you are correct. Key word--possible.

    "Such a tantrum as Corvinus’ is seldom seen."

    I didn't realize my use of dialectic was a tantrum.

    YOUR version of truth

    Err, ‘scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no ‘versions’ of truth, other than the original, unique instance.

    I am not here to swap trivial opinions; I report facts and may offer opinions but only when solidly based on facts. Corvinus [hereafter Ditto] didn’t do dialectic [so much if any at all], but mostly misinterpretation, non sequiturs and red herrings, furphies etc. = anything but stick to my theme. That’s not a response so much as an irresponsibility. My post of March 28, 2018 at 6:51 am GMT stands, totally without regard to or effect from Ditto’s graffiti and attempted distractions, diversions etc..

    Ditto is neither a fair nor rational interlocutor.

    A posited explanation for ditto’s tantrums is: S/he just can’t face the facts in that post, eh?

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  • @skrik
    Tut-tut; sensitive, much?

    Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:

    "Life after death" is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is - err, THE END, FINITO for all people.

    Such a tantrum as Corvinus' is seldom seen.

    Ignorant, uncouth vandalism.

    “Tut-tut; sensitive, much?”

    I see you had your projection for breakfast. You feeling better?

    “Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:”

    YOUR version of truth.

    ““Life after death” is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is – err, THE END, FINITO for all people.”

    It is possible that you are correct. Key word–possible.

    “Such a tantrum as Corvinus’ is seldom seen.”

    I didn’t realize my use of dialectic was a tantrum.

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    YOUR version of truth
     
    Err, 'scuse pliz? Just as belief does not, can not affect truth, so there are no 'versions' of truth, other than the original, unique instance.

    I am not here to swap trivial opinions; I report facts and may offer opinions but only when solidly based on facts. Corvinus [hereafter Ditto] didn't do dialectic [so much if any at all], but mostly misinterpretation, non sequiturs and red herrings, furphies etc. = anything but stick to my theme. That's not a response so much as an irresponsibility. My post of March 28, 2018 at 6:51 am GMT stands, totally without regard to or effect from Ditto's graffiti and attempted distractions, diversions etc..

    Ditto is neither a fair nor rational interlocutor.

    A posited explanation for ditto's tantrums is: S/he just can't face the facts in that post, eh?
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  • @Corvinus
    “When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial.”

    Absolutely. And when one critically examines the thought process and work of Edward Bernays', one takes into account his continuous self-promotion. He "sold" his ideas. Now, was he being objective or subjective in showing how people operate? In other words, to what extent are we suppose to trust his motives?

    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society."

    It is actually important in ANY society throughout human history, and in particular it has been a phenomenon every since Gutenburg introduced mechanical movable type printing to Europe. And it is not "manipulation", but it is the influence of thoughts, which may or may not incorporate duplicity.

    "Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."

    Except it is other than an "unseen mechanism". People are quite aware of the propaganda machine.
    And it is not an "invisible government". Rather, there are competing interests who vie for the public's attention on a wide range of matters, and offer information for consumption and digestion.

    "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."

    Largely by people and companies and politicians and groups, in some cases by names we have never heard of.

    "This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.”

    The author of the quotation is arguing from a false premise. He or she assumes that it is the "logical result" and how our "democratic society is organized". It is certainly is possible, but not necessarily likely or absolutely certain.

    "There is a lie in there, surrounding “must cooperate” – it’s simply not true – but worse, worst: “an invisible government.” The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators."

    It would appear that you are ASSUMING that there is this "deep state tyranny", and as a result, that people in general are being manipulated by unforeseen forces, or if they do foresee it, they lack the intelligence or wherewithal to not be doped/

    "The lie-cloud they choke the sheople’s minds with is deliberately ‘spiced’ with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that’s what does the majority of dumbing-down damage."

    Are you part of the flock known as "sheep"? Or are you immune to the propaganda machine? If yes, what makes you different compared to those who are being hornswoggled?

    "Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ."

    Exactly. Opinions differ. But it is yet to be determined whether Putin was or was not behind this event. Given Putin's past, it certainly is within the realm of possibility that he was involved.

    "But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in ‘the proles."

    OR, we assume that politicians are employing such techniques merely for their own purposes, as opposed to leaders providing the masses with information that they themselves can vet.

    "A ‘perfect’ example of a Bernays haze psyop is this..."

    Engaging in atrocity propaganda does not mean that atrocities are non-existent or occurring on a small-scale. Given our media today, both mainstream and alternative, Journalists (professional) and journalists (bloggers), there is a concerted effort vet those stories that come out and inform the public as to their accuracy.

    "“The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one”"

    There is truth to that statement. So is it not possible that you are also falling prey to it as well?

    "OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:
    1. That some supernatural god exists, and 2. That eternal life after death exists."

    That is a matter of belief. It is a lie to those who do not believe. It is the truth to those who do believe. Feel free to be skeptical.

    "People who do have corrupted minds; it’s a bit like ‘cognitive dissonance;’ once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this ‘defect’ explains"

    No, you, like everyone else, is influenced by propaganda and confirmation bias. Saying that your "mind is free of this defect" is other than believable, as we are all impacted by it, some more than others. Your knowledge of the Bernays haze, and your arguments defending it, is evidence that you are affected by propaganda.

    Tut-tut; sensitive, much?

    Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:

    “Life after death” is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is – err, THE END, FINITO for all people.

    Such a tantrum as Corvinus’ is seldom seen.

    Ignorant, uncouth vandalism.

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    "Tut-tut; sensitive, much?"

    I see you had your projection for breakfast. You feeling better?

    "Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:"

    YOUR version of truth.

    "“Life after death” is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is – err, THE END, FINITO for all people."

    It is possible that you are correct. Key word--possible.

    "Such a tantrum as Corvinus’ is seldom seen."

    I didn't realize my use of dialectic was a tantrum.
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  • I know plenty of jews that do not fit your model. That is the problem with KMac. He mostly pretends such jews don’t exist. If you make the same mistake, you definitely aren’t worth talking to. Your mind is made up.

    Jews’ minds are all made up. It’s part of being a Jew. Remove the beams from your own eyes, Jews. Stop bein’ dindunuffins and start acting like real White folks.

    P.S., you’ve obviously not read KMac (I’m being kind; it’s either that, your you’re just a liar).

    THAT IS A FORGERY. CHRIST, I knew this thread would bring out the stormtard contingent.

    That term, “forgery,” is an interesting one. It implies that the genuine, original article exists somewhere.

    Diction aside, what part of the protocols seems wrong to you?

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  • Both have made extensive careers out of pandering to bigotry. Irving is not an accidental comparison on my part. Who cares if it’s true, when you have a captive audience buying books that WANT TO BELIEVE?

    P.S., physician, heal thyself; we will find Jewish intellectual rigor plausible when you start applying it to yourselves. Clean up your own back yards.

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  • Both have made extensive careers out of pandering to bigotry. Irving is not an accidental comparison on my part. Who cares if it’s true, when you have a captive audience buying books that WANT TO BELIEVE?

    Jews are too self-absorbed to understand that most countersemites DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE (anyone with any common sense understands this, but pretty much no Jews). Things would be easier if we didn’t.

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  • @Anonymous
    Implied in this paper with the reference to Cochran et al. is the hypothesis that the explanation for higher Jewish IQ is genetic, a theory for which there is little evidence. (a) The most parsimonious explanation for the Jewish IQ advantage over other white groups is culture, as it is with all closely related populations. (b) Jews do best on the portions of IQ tests that relate the most to what children learn in school: tests of vocabulary and math skills. They're pretty mediocre on the other portions, suggesting that what is actually being measured is education, not innate IQ. It's true that smarter brains are more educatable, but might it also be that the math and vocabulary portions of the IQ test is measuring hours spent reading and solving math problems? It just so happens that Jews are known for having a culture that emphasizes education, so this explanation might fit. Additionally, the IQ data on Jews is highly variable.(c) Most of the studies (all?) that give them more extravagant scores are small studies, and likely not representative (New York, Orthodox schools). Finally, it's not easy to see how you weight Israel's (IQ 92-95) Sephari/Mizrahi/Arab populations to get an Ashkenazi IQ above 105. (d) 103 is easier to see. So, IMO a culture of going into the professions in the diaspora seems like a more parsimonious explanation for Jewish high IQ: a privilege they don't have in Israel.

    How do you explain all the Nobel prizes and chess champions? Firstly, not 1 of the current top 10 ranked chess players is Jewish, so far as I can tell (correct me if wrong). The closest is Levon Aronian, who's half Jewish and places 13th. Jews are still going strong in the Nobel prizes (age cohort effect?), but this may change as it has with chess. Why have they done so well in Nobels/Chess historically? I don't know, but why have the Chinese done so poorly factoring in their huge population and demonstrable high intelligence? It's obviously multi-factorial. We cant' say: "Jews have won lots of Nobels, therefore they have high IQs." Later: "Why did Jews win lots of Nobels?" "Because they have high genetically high IQs." We need a non-circular reason to prove the genetic hypothesis.

    (a) Regarding Cochran et al. Tay-Sachs has never been shown to boost IQ. It's also common among the Irish which is not a group that is renowned for brilliance. Torsion dystonia, on the other hand, is reportedly more common in Jews and sufferers also test higher on IQ tests by 10 points, but the disease renders its victims wheelchair and desk bound, presumably leaving them to spend most their time reading or doing clerical tasks, which could itself be the explanation for the 10 point boost in IQ. The heterozygote hypothesis is really just speculation. There is counter-evidence for a genetic Jewish IQ explanation, however, in the form of two brain size studies (Maurice Fishberg) (both with small sample size, unfortunately). They measured the size and weight of Jewish brains and found that they were smaller (by 30 grams or 2%) than Gentile brains from the same regions in Europe. The Jewish brains were also smaller relative to Jewish bodies' smaller frame than the Gentile brains were. Brain size is correlated with intelligence both within and between racial groups, so this would be an odd trait for a genetically more intelligent group to have. (e) You might also consider that myopia is more common among Jews than Gentiles, and also correlated with IQ, just as torsion dystonia is. Is the most parsimonious explanation a plietropy of the underlying genes that cause both, or Jewish children sitting in Schul all day becoming both learned and near-sighted? (while Gentile children are outside playing) Bright light exposure prevents myopia. This is apparent in parts of East Asia where myopia has become an epidemic, going from less than 10% of children needing glasses a century ago, to over 70% today. This is not due to a fluctuation in gene frequencies.

    (b) Blacks are 70 times more genetically distant from Jews and Whites, as Jews and Whites are from each other, analagous to 1,000 vs 70,000 years of isolation. Obviously, there's much more time for genetic differences to evolve in the former time frame than the latter.

    (c) Some studies showing them slightly below the white mean, like Shuey (1942), a large study, some up around 113 (Bachman 1970 and Herrnstein/Murray, both tiny studies) and some about the same: (Pintner-Cunningham (1920s), Hennessy and Merrifield (1978) ).

    (d) As Lynn, or others, crudely try to do. Crudely, in my opinion. He reported an estimated IQ for the Ashkenazi population of Israel as 103 in Race Differences in Intelligence 2006, and 110 in his book The Chosen People, in 2011. I don't know what inspired him to up his score. Did he discover more data?

    (e) What do you think represents stronger evidence, brain size data, or genes causing diseases in homozygotes which are hypothesized to boost intelligence in heterozygotes? (And, in only one(?) case has a boost in intelligence been shown, and that's in homozygotes with a disease that renders them wheelchair bound.)

    Agree with you. It is quite obvious that IQ tests do not test intellectual ability but rather intellectual achievement. So by calling them “intelligence” tests as if they test an innate or even genetic level of intellectual ability is a mistake.

    The other mistake you mention is of course the notion that genetics plays an inherent part of intellectual ability. While persons with syndromes of various types which affect the brain negatively (Downs Syndrome), or how you mention certain physical ailments which causes people to live sedentary lifestyles which increases intellectual activity, both of which can be due to an either direct genetic cause (the former) or indirect genetic cause (the latter), what is not proven is there being positive direct genetic factor. The genetic differences in people is limited to shape, color, size, and so on. Intellectual ability is not based on direct genetic differences unless it is in the negative direction as in Downs Syndrome. For an average person in any race the genetic differences do not correlate to the mind, which is in fact not the same as the brain.

    The mind is not material, genetics are material. These are two different things that are related, but in the sense that a radio is related to the sound coming from it. The source of the sound is not the radio, but the radio is needed to hear it, and if the radio is broken to whatever degree it will affect the sound. The brain is like a radio, the mind is the sound, literally. The mind is thought-sound, that is all it is. You hear the mind but you do control or create thought. If you think you do, try to explain how to create a thought, or how to force a memory to appear. You can explain neither, this is because the mind is not not what most people think it is. Thoughts are not under your control. Try to explain how to create a thoughts…..go ahead….You simply cannot. No one can. Thoughts are not caused by us, thoughts happen to us. Caused by something else entirely.

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  • @annamaria
    It seems that Nathan Cofnas either did not do his homework or prefer not to notice the embarrassing data.

    PS. … a tribe of narcissists and crap peddlers a lot of talk and nothing to show.

    Nothing here.

    https://www.reuters.com/bizfinance/technology/Top100Innovators

    Hebrew University of Jerusalem the best in Israel #186 on the list of World University Rankings/2017

    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2017/world-ranking#!/page/38/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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  • @WhiteWolf
    It proves that some of them at least wanted to try being self sufficient and failed in their attempt. I'll give them points for effort. It also highlights how tough and resourceful the pioneers were who built towns across the US often facing hostile natives who weren't happy about giving up territory. What a difference from the snowflakes today who need safe spaces where they can play with crayons when they get upset.

    You missed my point, the tribe allegedly overflowing with geniuses, inventors and innovators failed where others succeeded and prospered like in those two examples. Same thing with their newest creation Israel, they wouldn’t survive one month without US and German handouts.

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  • anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    How 2 Gulf Monarchies Sought to Influence the White House – The …

    https://www.nytimes.com/…/george-nader-elliott-broidy-uae-saudi-arabia-white-house-i…

    7 days ago – Hundreds of pages of correspondence between two intermediaries reveal an active effort to win over President Trump on behalf of Saudi Arabia and the … to The New York Times, provides a case study in the way two Persian Gulf monarchies have sought to gain influence inside the Trump White House.

    When will NYT say same thing in same languages on Adelshon,Singer,Haim Saban, Marcus and AIPAC
    At least they are asking him to start constructing in Arab lands not change UN resolution, veto UN resolution, bomb a few countries or give them free gifts in billions

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  • @jilles dykstra
    There is the suspicion that Von Rath was deliberately murdered to provoke the Hitler regime
    René d’Argile, etc., Das Geheimnis um die Ursachen des Zweiten Weltkrieges, Wiesbaden 1958 ( Les Originals Secrêtes de la Guerre 1939 – 1945, Paris 1958).

    You are a proprietor of unconnected dots. Perhaps reading less and thinking more could strike a better balance.

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  • By developing and promoting these movements, Jews supposedly played a necessary role in the ascendancy of liberalism and multiculturalism in the West.

    Clearly the Jews have promoted tribalism. Intellectually pushing people into tribalness – pitting tribal group against tribal group is their stock and trade. Jews cleverly building hate between groups is their source of power.

    The Christian Western culture says, “do no harm.” Clearly the Jews do harm with their tribal behavior. Their mendacious endless war culture is doing great harm. It is never smart to do harm.

    Cultures advance on “right and wrong” not “smart and dumb.” Smart and dumb is a false argument. Cultures that do the “right thing”, the “truthful thing” advance.

    China has had a billion smart people for thousands of years and yet it was backwards. Now they are borrowing what less smart “right and truthful” Europeans use (and claiming superiority).

    The Chinese had an inferior culture. So do the current Jews!

    The Jews are creating a new lie – it says, “Jews are biologically smarter, so shut up – just let the Jew rule you.” This is another “chosen” type lie. (Being verbally aggressive is not a measure of the whole person.)

    The proof of Jew inferiority is Israel – it is hated around the world because of its backwards tribal morals. What a bunch of screwups – they had the sympathy of the world and pissed it away.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @snag
    Not only that, just like the parasite they can't survive on their own, Clarion and Birobidzhan proves that they're tribe of con-artists and parasites ,...

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700175917/Clarion-call-Failed-settlement-lives-on-in-Jewish-hearts.html

    It proves that some of them at least wanted to try being self sufficient and failed in their attempt. I’ll give them points for effort. It also highlights how tough and resourceful the pioneers were who built towns across the US often facing hostile natives who weren’t happy about giving up territory. What a difference from the snowflakes today who need safe spaces where they can play with crayons when they get upset.

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    You missed my point, the tribe allegedly overflowing with geniuses, inventors and innovators failed where others succeeded and prospered like in those two examples. Same thing with their newest creation Israel, they wouldn't survive one month without US and German handouts.
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  • @Floda
    No, Kristallnacht happened because an unhappy Jew walked into the German consulate in Paris and shot and killed a German diplomat.

    Well, after all, this seems to have been a gay affair …

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  • @skrik

    You are making large-scale generalizations
     
    Maybe, but see next.

    You are assuming that proles lack
     
    Also maybe; but a warning:

    "When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial."
     
    Moving on, to the "Bernays haze:"

    Q: Did Corvinus, or anyone research it? My surmised A: No, so I'll help; I first found Bernays in 2008 in The Century of the Self, but this may be a better [certainly faster] intro:


    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society."

    There is a lie in there, surrounding "must cooperate" - it's simply not true - but worse, worst: "an invisible government." The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators.

    The lie-cloud they choke the sheople's minds with is deliberately 'spiced' with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that's what does the majority of dumbing-down damage.

    Now, we can do some 'back-tracking,' starting from the latest exploit, with Mme May's "big lie." Q: Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ. But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in 'the proles.'

    The next way-point on our trip into the past is this quote of a quote:


    «The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'»
     
    One very interesting thing here is "the reality-based community" and its implication, that there is another state possible, namely one that is *not* reality-based.

    A 'perfect' example of a Bernays haze psyop is this:


    a young Kuwaiti girl known only as "Nayirah" appeared in front of a congressional committee and testified that she witnessed the mass murdering of infants, when Iraqi soldiers had snatched them out of hospital incubators and threw them on the floor to die. Her testimony became a lead item in newspapers, radio and TV all over the US
     
    Now just a few names; Göring, Goebbels, Hitler. All evoke the N-word, but here, we're interested in propaganda, and "the Big lie:"

    “The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one”
     
    ~Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

    But there's more where that came from:


    “But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall ...”
     
    OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:

    1. That some supernatural god exists, and

    2. That eternal life after death exists.

    A 3rd point: That humans may believe something based on zero information. I do not, repeat for emphasis, do not so believe. People who do have corrupted minds; it's a bit like 'cognitive dissonance;' once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this 'defect' explains


    what makes me “woke,” how I am not one of the “duped”
     
    rgds

    “When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial.”

    Absolutely. And when one critically examines the thought process and work of Edward Bernays’, one takes into account his continuous self-promotion. He “sold” his ideas. Now, was he being objective or subjective in showing how people operate? In other words, to what extent are we suppose to trust his motives?

    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.”

    It is actually important in ANY society throughout human history, and in particular it has been a phenomenon every since Gutenburg introduced mechanical movable type printing to Europe. And it is not “manipulation”, but it is the influence of thoughts, which may or may not incorporate duplicity.

    “Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”

    Except it is other than an “unseen mechanism”. People are quite aware of the propaganda machine.
    And it is not an “invisible government”. Rather, there are competing interests who vie for the public’s attention on a wide range of matters, and offer information for consumption and digestion.

    “We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”

    Largely by people and companies and politicians and groups, in some cases by names we have never heard of.

    “This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.”

    The author of the quotation is arguing from a false premise. He or she assumes that it is the “logical result” and how our “democratic society is organized”. It is certainly is possible, but not necessarily likely or absolutely certain.

    “There is a lie in there, surrounding “must cooperate” – it’s simply not true – but worse, worst: “an invisible government.” The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators.”

    It would appear that you are ASSUMING that there is this “deep state tyranny”, and as a result, that people in general are being manipulated by unforeseen forces, or if they do foresee it, they lack the intelligence or wherewithal to not be doped/

    “The lie-cloud they choke the sheople’s minds with is deliberately ‘spiced’ with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that’s what does the majority of dumbing-down damage.”

    Are you part of the flock known as “sheep”? Or are you immune to the propaganda machine? If yes, what makes you different compared to those who are being hornswoggled?

    “Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ.”

    Exactly. Opinions differ. But it is yet to be determined whether Putin was or was not behind this event. Given Putin’s past, it certainly is within the realm of possibility that he was involved.

    “But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in ‘the proles.”

    OR, we assume that politicians are employing such techniques merely for their own purposes, as opposed to leaders providing the masses with information that they themselves can vet.

    “A ‘perfect’ example of a Bernays haze psyop is this…”

    Engaging in atrocity propaganda does not mean that atrocities are non-existent or occurring on a small-scale. Given our media today, both mainstream and alternative, Journalists (professional) and journalists (bloggers), there is a concerted effort vet those stories that come out and inform the public as to their accuracy.

    ““The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one””

    There is truth to that statement. So is it not possible that you are also falling prey to it as well?

    “OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:
    1. That some supernatural god exists, and 2. That eternal life after death exists.”

    That is a matter of belief. It is a lie to those who do not believe. It is the truth to those who do believe. Feel free to be skeptical.

    “People who do have corrupted minds; it’s a bit like ‘cognitive dissonance;’ once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this ‘defect’ explains”

    No, you, like everyone else, is influenced by propaganda and confirmation bias. Saying that your “mind is free of this defect” is other than believable, as we are all impacted by it, some more than others. Your knowledge of the Bernays haze, and your arguments defending it, is evidence that you are affected by propaganda.

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    Tut-tut; sensitive, much?

    Belief does not, can not affect truth. Listen up:

    "Life after death" is the crooked hook used to corrupt the minds of quivering cowards who simply cannot face the fact that death is - err, THE END, FINITO for all people.

    Such a tantrum as Corvinus' is seldom seen.

    Ignorant, uncouth vandalism.
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  • Higher intelligence then others —————————– NO just more group like cohesion for their own self aggrandizement. Business acumen in finance, business, media operations, and entertainment – possibly but that does not equate to flat statements like ——— Jews are just smarter then everyone else.

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  • @AaronB
    Well yes, I largely agree with what you're saying...

    And yes, the great age of European thinking did involve white people taking a larger view, and Jewish thinking is characteristically narrow by definition almost...

    My point is that a sort of "disease" has taken over the thinking of a significant portion of highly intelligent white people, and that it makes their thinking even narrower than that of Jews...which is truly remarkable.

    And this way of thinking is simply taking reductionist thinking to absurd extremes, where you can no longer see any kind of context.

    Guys like Derbyshire, Karlin etc are in a significant and interesting way even narrower thinkers than Jews.

    As weird as it sounds, Jewish self-interest creates a larger intellectual horizon than Karlin's stopping before each and every contemporary "fact" as if it were final, eternal, and permanent, and the consequent worship of "winning" - since by definition wining is a fait accompli, and if you cannot connect faits accompli to a wider context they necessarily seem final and irreversible...

    Even though Jews by definition worship "winning", they do not worship the fait acconpli, the mere contemporary "fact"....they place it in a larger context.

    To get an idea of what I'm saying, for Jews a defeat or centuries spent in low status aren't final, for guys like Karlin a few decades of whites being on the defensive are enough to convince him it's the "natural" order of things..

    Whites are guided by facts and dominated by them - and a fact is only what happens to be the case at the moment. Jews and Asians place facts in larger contexts - i.e connect them to larger sets of facts - and have a dynamic relationship with them.

    I don't mean all whites at all times - not setting up a "natural" order here - just a significant portion of highly intelligent contemporary whites.

    Anyways, this is all just highly speculative mumbo jumbo I like to amuse myself with...I think it's illuminating but I'm sure it has lots of wholes in it...

    The Devil answer’d: bray a fool in a morter with wheat, yet shall not his folly be beaten out of him; if Jesus Christ is the greatest man, you ought to love him in the greatest degree; now hear how he has given his sanction to the law of ten commandments: did he not mock at the sabbath, and so mock the sabbaths God? murder those who were murder’d because of him? turn away the law from the woman taken in adultery? steal the labor of others to support him? bear false witness when he omitted making a defense before Pilate? covet when he pray’d for his disciples, and when he bid them shake off the dust of their feet against such as refused to lodge them? I tell you, no virtue can exist without breaking these ten commandments; Jesus was all virtue, and acted from impulse, not from rules.

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  • @Floda
    No, Kristallnacht happened because an unhappy Jew walked into the German consulate in Paris and shot and killed a German diplomat.

    There is the suspicion that Von Rath was deliberately murdered to provoke the Hitler regime
    René d’Argile, etc., Das Geheimnis um die Ursachen des Zweiten Weltkrieges, Wiesbaden 1958 ( Les Originals Secrêtes de la Guerre 1939 – 1945, Paris 1958).

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  • @Corvinus
    "The ‘force’ = so-called ‘soft power’ = US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc., ta ra! The Bernays haze."

    You are making large-scale generalizations here. Are you not taking into strong account that white Americans generally have a high IQ and high time preferences, that they are able to use their logic and reasoning skills to make their own decisions regarding race and culture?

    Praytell, what makes you "woke"? How are you not one of the "duped"?

    "In ‘plain text,’ the proles are ‘dumbed down’ and sold ‘a bill of goods’ via vicious lies – like Iraqi WMDs, 9/11 inside-job, latest stupidity = alleged Russian ‘nerve agents.’"

    You are assuming that proles lack the ability to analyze messages and think for themselves, that they are easily manipulated. You're going to have to offer specific evidence that the American public has been undeniably swayed by globalists and Zionists.

    "Recovering our world from utter shit, crap and corruption will take massive effort..."

    "Our" world? So who exactly is in it? Perhaps more importantly, who is not part of it?

    You are making large-scale generalizations

    Maybe, but see next.

    You are assuming that proles lack

    Also maybe; but a warning:

    “When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial.”

    Moving on, to the “Bernays haze:”

    Q: Did Corvinus, or anyone research it? My surmised A: No, so I’ll help; I first found Bernays in 2008 in The Century of the Self, but this may be a better [certainly faster] intro:

    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.”

    There is a lie in there, surrounding “must cooperate” – it’s simply not true – but worse, worst: “an invisible government.” The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators.

    The lie-cloud they choke the sheople’s minds with is deliberately ‘spiced’ with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that’s what does the majority of dumbing-down damage.

    Now, we can do some ‘back-tracking,’ starting from the latest exploit, with Mme May’s “big lie.” Q: Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ. But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in ‘the proles.’

    The next way-point on our trip into the past is this quote of a quote:

    «The aide said that guys like me were ‘in what we call the reality-based community,’ which he defined as people who ‘believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.’»

    One very interesting thing here is “the reality-based community” and its implication, that there is another state possible, namely one that is *not* reality-based.

    A ‘perfect’ example of a Bernays haze psyop is this:

    a young Kuwaiti girl known only as “Nayirah” appeared in front of a congressional committee and testified that she witnessed the mass murdering of infants, when Iraqi soldiers had snatched them out of hospital incubators and threw them on the floor to die. Her testimony became a lead item in newspapers, radio and TV all over the US

    Now just a few names; Göring, Goebbels, Hitler. All evoke the N-word, but here, we’re interested in propaganda, and “the Big lie:”

    “The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one”

    ~Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

    But there’s more where that came from:

    “But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall …”

    OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:

    1. That some supernatural god exists, and

    2. That eternal life after death exists.

    A 3rd point: That humans may believe something based on zero information. I do not, repeat for emphasis, do not so believe. People who do have corrupted minds; it’s a bit like ‘cognitive dissonance;’ once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this ‘defect’ explains

    what makes me “woke,” how I am not one of the “duped”

    rgds

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    “When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial.”

    Absolutely. And when one critically examines the thought process and work of Edward Bernays', one takes into account his continuous self-promotion. He "sold" his ideas. Now, was he being objective or subjective in showing how people operate? In other words, to what extent are we suppose to trust his motives?

    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society."

    It is actually important in ANY society throughout human history, and in particular it has been a phenomenon every since Gutenburg introduced mechanical movable type printing to Europe. And it is not "manipulation", but it is the influence of thoughts, which may or may not incorporate duplicity.

    "Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."

    Except it is other than an "unseen mechanism". People are quite aware of the propaganda machine.
    And it is not an "invisible government". Rather, there are competing interests who vie for the public's attention on a wide range of matters, and offer information for consumption and digestion.

    "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."

    Largely by people and companies and politicians and groups, in some cases by names we have never heard of.

    "This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.”

    The author of the quotation is arguing from a false premise. He or she assumes that it is the "logical result" and how our "democratic society is organized". It is certainly is possible, but not necessarily likely or absolutely certain.

    "There is a lie in there, surrounding “must cooperate” – it’s simply not true – but worse, worst: “an invisible government.” The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators."

    It would appear that you are ASSUMING that there is this "deep state tyranny", and as a result, that people in general are being manipulated by unforeseen forces, or if they do foresee it, they lack the intelligence or wherewithal to not be doped/

    "The lie-cloud they choke the sheople’s minds with is deliberately ‘spiced’ with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that’s what does the majority of dumbing-down damage."

    Are you part of the flock known as "sheep"? Or are you immune to the propaganda machine? If yes, what makes you different compared to those who are being hornswoggled?

    "Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ."

    Exactly. Opinions differ. But it is yet to be determined whether Putin was or was not behind this event. Given Putin's past, it certainly is within the realm of possibility that he was involved.

    "But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in ‘the proles."

    OR, we assume that politicians are employing such techniques merely for their own purposes, as opposed to leaders providing the masses with information that they themselves can vet.

    "A ‘perfect’ example of a Bernays haze psyop is this..."

    Engaging in atrocity propaganda does not mean that atrocities are non-existent or occurring on a small-scale. Given our media today, both mainstream and alternative, Journalists (professional) and journalists (bloggers), there is a concerted effort vet those stories that come out and inform the public as to their accuracy.

    "“The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one”"

    There is truth to that statement. So is it not possible that you are also falling prey to it as well?

    "OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:
    1. That some supernatural god exists, and 2. That eternal life after death exists."

    That is a matter of belief. It is a lie to those who do not believe. It is the truth to those who do believe. Feel free to be skeptical.

    "People who do have corrupted minds; it’s a bit like ‘cognitive dissonance;’ once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this ‘defect’ explains"

    No, you, like everyone else, is influenced by propaganda and confirmation bias. Saying that your "mind is free of this defect" is other than believable, as we are all impacted by it, some more than others. Your knowledge of the Bernays haze, and your arguments defending it, is evidence that you are affected by propaganda.
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  • @annamaria
    It seems that Nathan Cofnas either did not do his homework or prefer not to notice the embarrassing data.

    Or maybe he has an agenda – Pick one ;)

    A Letter to Nathan Cofnas: Please Stop Misrepresenting my Research.

    http://michael1988.com/?p=808

    “Nathan Cofnas is not, and never has been, a professor at Lingnan, or any other, university. He was a PhD student at Lingnan who left without completing his PhD”

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  • @FKA Max
    More Twitter commenting from Cofnas on Mr. Unz's research; his first Twitter comment here http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-gets-wrong-about-jews/#comment-2250087 ; comment by Mr. Unz on the matter http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-gets-wrong-about-jews/#comment-2251085 :

    Nathan Cofnas
    ‏ @nathancofnas
    Replying to @filled_torah @RichardBSpencer @jordanbpeterson

    Just because Unz "addressed" this doesn't mean Gelman was wrong. The claim that Jews are 25% of students at top universities is a ludicrous lie made up by Hillel (odd for alt-righters to accept it). @RichardBSpencer, were 25% of your classmates at Duke and Chicago Jews?
    11:35 PM - 25 Mar 2018
     

    https://twitter.com/nathancofnas/status/978158403678699520

    No one ever claimed that Jews make up 25% of students at all top universities, but at some, especially the important ones that the American elite is recruited from (Ivy League):

    What North American Schools Have the Largest Jewish Populations?

    (Facts courtesy of Reform Judaism Magazine and Hillel. http://bit.ly/17mbO1z)

    Full lists here:

    http://www.gatherdc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/private-jewish-schools-570x419.jpg

    http://www.gatherdc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/public-jewish-schools-570x401.jpg

    Source: http://gatherdc.org/2013/08/28/what-north-american-schools-have-the-largest-jewish-populations/ Archived link: http://archive.is/rOWEV

    But a mean IQ of 110 is not enough to explain Jewish achievement (Nisbett 2009:181).[42] It is likely that Jews also have a geographic advantage. Since the Enlightenment and particularly in the twentieth century, European Jews have been highly concentrated in major urban centers (Warsaw, Berlin, Frankfurt, Vienna, Paris, New York City, Los Angeles, etc.). These areas tended to have the infrastructure to support intellectual achievement. Indeed, even without postulating high Jewish IQ, from their location alone we would expect them to be overrepresented in intellectual endeavors.

    http://www.unz.com/article/judaism-as-a-group-evolutionary-strategy/#p_4_2

    I read the Gelman piece again, and this section stood out to me:

    First, the geography. Typically over 40% of Harvard College students come from New England and the mid-Atlantic, a group of states that includes 48% of American Jews but only 21% of the white population.

    In comparison, Jewish admissions in competitive west coast colleges such as Stanford and the University of California are much lower, reflecting that they are drawing from a different geographic distribution of applicants.

    http://andrewgelman.com/2013/02/12/that-claim-that-harvard-admissions-discriminate-in-favor-of-jews-after-checking-the-statistics-maybe-not/#comment-142949

    Both Cofnas and Gelman keep emphasizing geography as one of the main explanations for Jewish overrepresentation at Harvard, Yale, etc.

    What they don’t seem to factor in though, is that the Haredi community is almost exclusively based in the Northeast and they, currently, make up about 10% of the total U.S. Jewish population, therefore they are about 20% of the northeastern Jewish population.

    The United States is home to the second largest Haredi population, which has a growth rate on pace to double every 20 years. In 2000, there were 360,000 Haredi Jews in the US (7.2 per cent of the approximately 5 million Jews in the U.S.); by 2006, demographers estimate the number had grown to 468,000 or 9.4 per cent.
    [...]
    Most American Haredi Jews live in the greater New York metropolitan area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism#United_States

    The same applies in the UK to an even greater degree:

    In 1998, the Haredi population in the Jewish community of the United Kingdom was estimated at 27,000 (13% of affiliated Jews).[158] The largest communities are located in London, particularly the Haredi community of Stamford Hill, and in the Greater Manchester areas of Salford, and Prestwich, as well as in the Jewish community of Gateshead. A 2007 study asserted that three out of four British Jewish births were Haredi, who then accounted for 17% of British Jews, (45,500 out of around 275,000).[9] Another study in 2010 established that there were 9,049 Haredi households in the UK, which would account for a population of nearly 53,400, or 20% of the community.[190][191] The Board of Deputies of British Jews has predicted that the Haredi community will become the largest group in Anglo-Jewry within the next three decades

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism#United_Kingdom

    Since Haredi Jews mostly don’t attend regular universities and pursue religious rather than intellectual/scientific studies, even though they are mostly based in “major urban centers”, at least 10% of the Jewish community, in the northeastern United States and in the United Kingdom likely closer to 20%, would not apply to elite universities, which makes the Jewish overrepresentation at the Ivy League, etc. even starker than Mr. Unz documented:

    These are figures from Israel, but they probably, more or less, apply to Haredis worldwide:

    Despite this increase, the percentage of young Haredim (ages 25-35) who are studying or have studied for a bachelor’s degree is still substantially lower than in Israel’s other sectors: only 8% of Haredi men and 15% of Haredi women are pursuing or hold an academic degree.

    Source: http://taubcenter.org.il/is-getting-in-enough-haredim-in-higher-education/

    At 45 births per 1,000 people in 2015, Lakewood’s birth rate is more than double the next highest municipality in the state and four times the state average. The huge figures are tied to fast-growing Orthodox Jewish community, which has also made it one of the fastest growing towns in the state.

    Source: http://www.unz.com/isteve/ice-people-now-make-up-majority-of-births-in-nyc/#comment-2137349

    I’m not white I’m Jewish – unofficial MUSIC VIDEO – BibleRap rap hiphop

    Source: http://www.unz.com/isteve/ice-people-now-make-up-majority-of-births-in-nyc/#comment-2136775

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  • @Tbbh
    Here is a fun game to play with KMac "true believers":

    "What lead you to read KMac and what did you think of jews BEFORE you read him?"

    The answers will never surprise you.

    Remember: Kristalnacht happened because aryans were angered that jewish kosher shops and synagogues were unfairly competing with aryan kosher shops and aryan synagogues...

    ‘Kristallnacht’ propaganda utterly debunked here:

    ‘Kristallnacht’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6190

    http://www.codoh.com

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  • @Charles Lindbergh
    Before I read the CofC, I had a huge admiration for the Jewish people. I had Jewish friends and didn't really see anything different about them. I had Jewish doctors that I liked and respected.
    But some horrible things happened to me in my life, related to the fact that I am an older white man living in California. Horrible things.
    I began to ask myself, "How can these non-whites get away with treating me so badly in my own country?"
    About the same time, 2008, we had the financial crisis, and I read everything I could find about this topic.
    And all at once I discovered Jews at the center of the financial mess.
    Then I read the CofC. It was like a nuclear bomb went off in my life. It sickened me, because I could not deny the truth of it.
    I truly wish that Cofnas could have refuted the CofC. I don't hate anybody. I don't want to hate anybody, including Jews.
    But the evidence for Jewish subversion is overwhelming. Horrible.
    If Jews have higher IQ scores than whites, who cares? The question is, if Jews are so much smarter, then why are they wrecking western civilization?
    My father and both of my uncles fought in WWII to save the Jews, so the Jews could open the borders of my country to make me into a hated minority.
    WTF?

    said:
    “If Jews are so much smarter, then why are they wrecking western civilization?”

    They are obviously not as smart as they pretend.

    If Ashkenazi Jews are so smart then they would have thought up a better, more believable method of murder than what they falsely claim for their impossibly fake & stupid 6,000,000.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  • @renfro

    Anyways, this is all just highly speculative mumbo jumbo I like to amuse myself with…I think it’s illuminating but I’m sure it has lots of wholes in it…
     
    yep.....we can entertain all kinds of theories.

    When it comes to the Jews I revert to history since time began ....lol
    I also notice Europeans do not think of the current Jewish influence as some Americans do ....as a fait accompli as they have seen Jews come and go for centuries.
    This is American's first experience with Jews.

    said:
    “This is American’s first experience with Jews.”

    Not really. African sellers and Jew buyers & shippers were the dominant forces behind the slave trade.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    Jew slave ship owners
    JEWS AND THE SLAVE TRADE

    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/jews–the-slave-trade.html

    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/uploads/5/3/4/9/53499197/8785931.jpg?277http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/uploads/5/3/4/9/53499197/892816_orig.jpg

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  • @Tbbh
    What if I point out that the self-described "oppressed goy", who have often been very violent towards jews (like when they murdered jews in Italy for supposedly being "black death maries") might CAUSE jews to band together, work together, and be more concerned about their kith and kin survival, than the wishes of the people constantly coming up with excuses to attack them, regardless of their individual behaviors?

    Oh wait!! Should have put in a LOGIC "trigger warning".

    What if I point out that Jewish holy books confirm that Jews do have a hostile attitude that has nothing to do with persecution. We can see in Palestine the indigenous population being pushed out and labelled terrorists when they resist. In other countries the indigenous population is pushed out of positions of power and labelled racist or White supremacist if they resist.

    The playbook is out in the open now. We aren’t all idiots despite what the Torah or talmud says.

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  • @snag
    According to 2013 Pearson's Global Index of Cognitive Skills and Educational Attainment, (that's a total score of PISA, TIMSS and PIRLS in Reading, Maths and Science) were out of 39 tested countries Israel comes 29th, far behind US at 13th and Poland at 14th ,...

    Oy vey, no Jews ,...

    http://thelearningcurve.pearson.com/index/index-ranking
    http://www.nihilnovijournal.org/post/85137988016/pearson-released-an-interesting-ranking-of-global

    It seems that Nathan Cofnas either did not do his homework or prefer not to notice the embarrassing data.

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    Or maybe he has an agenda - Pick one ;)

    A Letter to Nathan Cofnas: Please Stop Misrepresenting my Research.
    http://michael1988.com/?p=808

    "Nathan Cofnas is not, and never has been, a professor at Lingnan, or any other, university. He was a PhD student at Lingnan who left without completing his PhD"

    , @snag
    PS. ... a tribe of narcissists and crap peddlers a lot of talk and nothing to show.

    Nothing here.
    https://www.reuters.com/bizfinance/technology/Top100Innovators

    Hebrew University of Jerusalem the best in Israel #186 on the list of World University Rankings/2017
    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2017/world-ranking#!/page/38/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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  • @annamaria
    Israel is a Jewish State. Here are the stats for world countries by their IQ: https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country
    Israel (IQ=95) which is, for example, below Hong Kong (IQ=108), Singapore (IQ=108), Mongolia (IQ=101), Finland (IQ=99), Poland (IQ-99), Latvia (IQ=98), Russia (IQ-97), Uruguay (IQ=96), Moldova (IQ=96) and more countries.
    Mr. Confas needs to make his mind: either the Jewish state is inhabited by Jews (IQ=95) or not.

    According to 2013 Pearson’s Global Index of Cognitive Skills and Educational Attainment, (that’s a total score of PISA, TIMSS and PIRLS in Reading, Maths and Science) were out of 39 tested countries Israel comes 29th, far behind US at 13th and Poland at 14th ,…

    Oy vey, no Jews ,…

    http://thelearningcurve.pearson.com/index/index-ranking

    http://www.nihilnovijournal.org/post/85137988016/pearson-released-an-interesting-ranking-of-global

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    It seems that Nathan Cofnas either did not do his homework or prefer not to notice the embarrassing data.
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  • @Tbbh
    Here is a fun game to play with KMac "true believers":

    "What lead you to read KMac and what did you think of jews BEFORE you read him?"

    The answers will never surprise you.

    Remember: Kristalnacht happened because aryans were angered that jewish kosher shops and synagogues were unfairly competing with aryan kosher shops and aryan synagogues...

    No, Kristallnacht happened because an unhappy Jew walked into the German consulate in Paris and shot and killed a German diplomat.

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    There is the suspicion that Von Rath was deliberately murdered to provoke the Hitler regime
    René d’Argile, etc., Das Geheimnis um die Ursachen des Zweiten Weltkrieges, Wiesbaden 1958 ( Les Originals Secrêtes de la Guerre 1939 – 1945, Paris 1958).
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    Well, after all, this seems to have been a gay affair ...
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  • anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    Of course some Jews have done those jobs, but they aren't numerous. Where are they now? When were Jews known to make up the majority of peasants, farmers, builders, soldiers, heavy laborers, etc.?

    As far as charging interest goes, I don't mind a certain amount, but when a whole society is built upon credit, with rates beyond what a monster mobster would charge, something is wrong.

    Jewish even dont want itto do those jobs in Israel So the gomys from troubled countries come to do it. They come and say how happy they are to be in Israel. They are happy to escape the scourges of the exploratory capitalism and wars . Israel then adds one more feather to its laurels .

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  • @Charles Lindbergh
    Before I read the CofC, I had a huge admiration for the Jewish people. I had Jewish friends and didn't really see anything different about them. I had Jewish doctors that I liked and respected.
    But some horrible things happened to me in my life, related to the fact that I am an older white man living in California. Horrible things.
    I began to ask myself, "How can these non-whites get away with treating me so badly in my own country?"
    About the same time, 2008, we had the financial crisis, and I read everything I could find about this topic.
    And all at once I discovered Jews at the center of the financial mess.
    Then I read the CofC. It was like a nuclear bomb went off in my life. It sickened me, because I could not deny the truth of it.
    I truly wish that Cofnas could have refuted the CofC. I don't hate anybody. I don't want to hate anybody, including Jews.
    But the evidence for Jewish subversion is overwhelming. Horrible.
    If Jews have higher IQ scores than whites, who cares? The question is, if Jews are so much smarter, then why are they wrecking western civilization?
    My father and both of my uncles fought in WWII to save the Jews, so the Jews could open the borders of my country to make me into a hated minority.
    WTF?

    “. ..if Jews are so much smarter, then why are they wrecking western civilization?”
    — their tribalism trumps goodness and morals. This mental defect wrecks their assimilation. As a result, the safest places are becoming unsafe both for the natives and the ungrateful guests.
    Perhaps, if the ideas of nationalism (which the Holocaust biz loves to hate) were not adopted with such a vigor by the European Jews in the 19-20th century, the world would be a safer and juster place. Instead, the Middle East is on fire, the EU is flooded with refugees and migrants, the US Congress is “guided” by the wealthy ziocons, the US military is preparing to fight and die for Israel — and the US citizenry feels betrayed on all fronts.
    The Jews are never alone in the misdeeds; there are always the bought and opportunistic confederates among the “natives.” But the main cause of the misdeeds is unmistakable: the moral relativism that is tribe-enforced.
    The best and brightest among the Jews do see the problem and they are trying to confront the stupidity of prosecution for BDS, the stupidity of the Kagans et al. stink-tanks inspired by Wolfowitz doctrine/Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel, the stupidity of Middle Eastern wars, the stupidity of sanctions against Russia inspired by the lying, indecent Browder… But there is no popular movement. The tribe at large wants to feel superior. “Too clever is dumb,” indeed.

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  • anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    “Ironically, the bipartisan request to force Al Jazeera to register comes amid a controversy over the network’s filming of a documentary critical of pro-Israel lobbying in the United States. For that exposé, the network used an undercover operative to secure footage revealing possibly illegal interactions between advocacy groups and lawmakers.

    The Foreign Agents Registration Act was never intended to regulate journalism. In fact, the legislation includes finely worded exemptions for journalists, scholars, artists, and the like, who are not required to announce themselves as “agents of a foreign principal” regardless of what they do. ” TAC

    The low IQ gentiles do it for the love of high IQ Jews.

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  • @anon
    If you look at the three studies in the Curt Dunkel paper, (Dunkel is also referenced by Cofnas) and you weight their results sensibly,** you'll find that Jewish IQ is about 107 and non-Jewish whites 101-102. This gives Jews a 6 point advantage (or maybe less), or .4 standard deviations.

    Given these numbers, you'll expect Jews to outnumber non-Jewish Whites per capita above IQ of 145 by a factor of 3.45. Taking 145 as the IQ of a Harvard students (which is probably too high, probably more like 130-135), and given that Jews are 1.8% of the college age population, and non-Jewish Whites are about 50%, you'd expect Jews to be about 5.4% of Harvard students, and non-Jewish whites somewhere north of 60%..***

    I feel like I've been reasonable, even generous in my treatment of these numbers. If Jews are over 10% of Harvard students, it raises big questions about the meritocracy of its admissions policies.

    ** The two studies with the larger sample sizes and comprehensiveness give Jews an IQ advantage of only about 4-5 points, according to my calculations. (MIDUS II and Project Talent)

    *** This 60% figure is based on mental math, unlike the 5.4% Jewish figure which I manually calculated. This is based on the IQ of the U.S. as a whole is about 98, factoring in Black, Hispanic and Asian IQs. White IQ is about 101.5, so a bit higher than the average American.

    Israel is a Jewish State. Here are the stats for world countries by their IQ: https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country
    Israel (IQ=95) which is, for example, below Hong Kong (IQ=108), Singapore (IQ=108), Mongolia (IQ=101), Finland (IQ=99), Poland (IQ-99), Latvia (IQ=98), Russia (IQ-97), Uruguay (IQ=96), Moldova (IQ=96) and more countries.
    Mr. Confas needs to make his mind: either the Jewish state is inhabited by Jews (IQ=95) or not.

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    According to 2013 Pearson's Global Index of Cognitive Skills and Educational Attainment, (that's a total score of PISA, TIMSS and PIRLS in Reading, Maths and Science) were out of 39 tested countries Israel comes 29th, far behind US at 13th and Poland at 14th ,...

    Oy vey, no Jews ,...

    http://thelearningcurve.pearson.com/index/index-ranking
    http://www.nihilnovijournal.org/post/85137988016/pearson-released-an-interesting-ranking-of-global

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  • @renfro

    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
     
    When Russia gave farmland and livestock to Jews so they could have a self ruling region within Russia the Jews would not farm the land and raise crops to feed themselves---so they started slaughtering the cattle and eating them.

    Not only that, just like the parasite they can’t survive on their own, Clarion and Birobidzhan proves that they’re tribe of con-artists and parasites ,…

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700175917/Clarion-call-Failed-settlement-lives-on-in-Jewish-hearts.html

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    • Replies: @WhiteWolf
    It proves that some of them at least wanted to try being self sufficient and failed in their attempt. I'll give them points for effort. It also highlights how tough and resourceful the pioneers were who built towns across the US often facing hostile natives who weren't happy about giving up territory. What a difference from the snowflakes today who need safe spaces where they can play with crayons when they get upset.
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  • Anyways, this is all just highly speculative mumbo jumbo I like to amuse myself with…I think it’s illuminating but I’m sure it has lots of wholes in it…

    yep…..we can entertain all kinds of theories.

    When it comes to the Jews I revert to history since time began ….lol
    I also notice Europeans do not think of the current Jewish influence as some Americans do ….as a fait accompli as they have seen Jews come and go for centuries.
    This is American’s first experience with Jews.

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    said:
    "This is American’s first experience with Jews."

    Not really. African sellers and Jew buyers & shippers were the dominant forces behind the slave trade.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders' ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

    Jew slave ship owners
    http://odinist.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/1-a-AFRICAN-SLAVE-SHIPSSSSS.png

    JEWS AND THE SLAVE TRADE
    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/jews--the-slave-trade.html

    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/uploads/5/3/4/9/53499197/6585841.jpg?296
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  • @renfro

    It’s almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It’s a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision – and is the obvious consequence of taking “reductive” thinking to an absurd extreme
     

    I would disagree . I think high thinking whites lean more to inductive reasoning, what is observably true and abductive reasoning, what s most likely true.

    Reductive reasoning shows what is not true....but it has to beat the inductve and abductive first.

    I do think Jews see a big picture, the picture which is their goal ....but not the world big picture.... and....unlike high thinking non Jews, Jews do not consider the ramifications of each step they make toward that goal....iow they do not think out the end results ......they simply push steps for an end result, much like throwing shit on the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

    The nature of the Jew make them incapable of understanding that the steps they take mount up to eventual backlash and cause them to lose their big picture goal. Think of the steps they have taken, the Gaza assault, the effort to violate the constitution by criminalizing boycotting Israel...each time they push for their big picture the number of people who become anti Israel and anti Jews increases.


    Some Jewish writer who's name I cant remember now once wrote of the Jews...."we lose because we have never be able to look into the others eyes and know when they have had enough''

    Jews will eventually lose the US because of their attention getting shit throwing steps to their big picture.
    Its their narcissism that prevents them from seeing the real world big picture. And yes numbers do count. There are 7.8 billion people in the world and only 15 million of them are Jews.

    Well yes, I largely agree with what you’re saying…

    And yes, the great age of European thinking did involve white people taking a larger view, and Jewish thinking is characteristically narrow by definition almost…

    My point is that a sort of “disease” has taken over the thinking of a significant portion of highly intelligent white people, and that it makes their thinking even narrower than that of Jews…which is truly remarkable.

    And this way of thinking is simply taking reductionist thinking to absurd extremes, where you can no longer see any kind of context.

    Guys like Derbyshire, Karlin etc are in a significant and interesting way even narrower thinkers than Jews.

    As weird as it sounds, Jewish self-interest creates a larger intellectual horizon than Karlin’s stopping before each and every contemporary “fact” as if it were final, eternal, and permanent, and the consequent worship of “winning” – since by definition wining is a fait accompli, and if you cannot connect faits accompli to a wider context they necessarily seem final and irreversible…

    Even though Jews by definition worship “winning”, they do not worship the fait acconpli, the mere contemporary “fact”….they place it in a larger context.

    To get an idea of what I’m saying, for Jews a defeat or centuries spent in low status aren’t final, for guys like Karlin a few decades of whites being on the defensive are enough to convince him it’s the “natural” order of things..

    Whites are guided by facts and dominated by them – and a fact is only what happens to be the case at the moment. Jews and Asians place facts in larger contexts – i.e connect them to larger sets of facts – and have a dynamic relationship with them.

    I don’t mean all whites at all times – not setting up a “natural” order here – just a significant portion of highly intelligent contemporary whites.

    Anyways, this is all just highly speculative mumbo jumbo I like to amuse myself with…I think it’s illuminating but I’m sure it has lots of wholes in it…

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    The Devil answer'd: bray a fool in a morter with wheat, yet shall not his folly be beaten out of him; if Jesus Christ is the greatest man, you ought to love him in the greatest degree; now hear how he has given his sanction to the law of ten commandments: did he not mock at the sabbath, and so mock the sabbaths God? murder those who were murder'd because of him? turn away the law from the woman taken in adultery? steal the labor of others to support him? bear false witness when he omitted making a defense before Pilate? covet when he pray'd for his disciples, and when he bid them shake off the dust of their feet against such as refused to lodge them? I tell you, no virtue can exist without breaking these ten commandments; Jesus was all virtue, and acted from impulse, not from rules.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    Injustice to jews, many butchers in pre 1914 Germany were jews, Polish jews were artisans in glass manufacture.
    Preparation of hides, also done to a large extent by jews.
    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
    Then there were the watchmakers and jewellers, as at present the diamond industry in Antwerp and Amsterdam is to a large extent still a jewish business.
    Then there were many small jewish shop keepers.
    There of course is the accusation of usury, alas it is often forgotten that getting one's money back was not at all sure.

    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.

    When Russia gave farmland and livestock to Jews so they could have a self ruling region within Russia the Jews would not farm the land and raise crops to feed themselves—so they started slaughtering the cattle and eating them.

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    Not only that, just like the parasite they can't survive on their own, Clarion and Birobidzhan proves that they're tribe of con-artists and parasites ,...

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700175917/Clarion-call-Failed-settlement-lives-on-in-Jewish-hearts.html
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  • @skrik
    Tres droll. This also for Tyrion 2:

    The 'force' = so-called 'soft power' = US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc., ta ra! The Bernays haze.

    In 'plain text,' the proles are 'dumbed down' and sold 'a bill of goods' via vicious lies - like Iraqi WMDs, 9/11 inside-job, latest stupidity = alleged Russian 'nerve agents.'

    No worthwhile project needs a 'lie-screen,' only 'just law' may earn respect.

    Recovering our world from utter shit, crap and corruption will take massive effort - IMHO not merely 'worth it' but absolutely necessary.

    “The ‘force’ = so-called ‘soft power’ = US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc., ta ra! The Bernays haze.”

    You are making large-scale generalizations here. Are you not taking into strong account that white Americans generally have a high IQ and high time preferences, that they are able to use their logic and reasoning skills to make their own decisions regarding race and culture?

    Praytell, what makes you “woke”? How are you not one of the “duped”?

    “In ‘plain text,’ the proles are ‘dumbed down’ and sold ‘a bill of goods’ via vicious lies – like Iraqi WMDs, 9/11 inside-job, latest stupidity = alleged Russian ‘nerve agents.’”

    You are assuming that proles lack the ability to analyze messages and think for themselves, that they are easily manipulated. You’re going to have to offer specific evidence that the American public has been undeniably swayed by globalists and Zionists.

    “Recovering our world from utter shit, crap and corruption will take massive effort…”

    “Our” world? So who exactly is in it? Perhaps more importantly, who is not part of it?

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    You are making large-scale generalizations
     
    Maybe, but see next.

    You are assuming that proles lack
     
    Also maybe; but a warning:

    "When a statement is challenged by making an ad hominem attack on its author, it is important to draw a distinction between whether the statement in question was an argument or a statement of fact (testimony). In the latter case the issues of the credibility of the person making the statement may be crucial."
     
    Moving on, to the "Bernays haze:"

    Q: Did Corvinus, or anyone research it? My surmised A: No, so I'll help; I first found Bernays in 2008 in The Century of the Self, but this may be a better [certainly faster] intro:


    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society."

    There is a lie in there, surrounding "must cooperate" - it's simply not true - but worse, worst: "an invisible government." The latter is what I term ‘deep state’ tyranny; the foul, unelected and criminal puppet-string manipulators.

    The lie-cloud they choke the sheople's minds with is deliberately 'spiced' with scientifically designed psychological propaganda, and that's what does the majority of dumbing-down damage.

    Now, we can do some 'back-tracking,' starting from the latest exploit, with Mme May's "big lie." Q: Is the central allegation = Russians [if not Putin himself] poisoning an ex-spy and his daughter plausible and/or believable? My A: No [for a proof, see the tale of the 1st responder 'clearing the daughter's airways' and hanging around for 30mins], your opinion may differ. But we can see an associated technique being employed, namely the many men in highest-visibility hazchem suits, deployed primarily to trigger fear in 'the proles.'

    The next way-point on our trip into the past is this quote of a quote:


    «The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'»
     
    One very interesting thing here is "the reality-based community" and its implication, that there is another state possible, namely one that is *not* reality-based.

    A 'perfect' example of a Bernays haze psyop is this:


    a young Kuwaiti girl known only as "Nayirah" appeared in front of a congressional committee and testified that she witnessed the mass murdering of infants, when Iraqi soldiers had snatched them out of hospital incubators and threw them on the floor to die. Her testimony became a lead item in newspapers, radio and TV all over the US
     
    Now just a few names; Göring, Goebbels, Hitler. All evoke the N-word, but here, we're interested in propaganda, and "the Big lie:"

    “The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one”
     
    ~Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

    But there's more where that came from:


    “But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall ...”
     
    OK; we can now proceed to the ultimate lie, actually two, and they are true whopper-assertions:

    1. That some supernatural god exists, and

    2. That eternal life after death exists.

    A 3rd point: That humans may believe something based on zero information. I do not, repeat for emphasis, do not so believe. People who do have corrupted minds; it's a bit like 'cognitive dissonance;' once so breached, such minds are susceptible to further lies, and [along with my knowledge of the Bernays haze], my mind being free of this 'defect' explains


    what makes me “woke,” how I am not one of the “duped”
     
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  • @AaronB
    Very interesting angle, that Derbyshire and Sailer and karlin etc are getting funding. It's so baffling otherwise that I'm prepared to consider it.

    But yes, Ayn Rand, libertarianism, IQ myth, etc - the final and most complete expression of "winner worship" and "fact worship" that Western culture has produced and perhaps "the" fatal handicap from which the West will not recover.

    As bad as Jewish culture is, Jews would never see the success of any European people as representing an inevitable cosmic hierarchy simply because, for the moment, it "won".

    It's almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It's a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision - and is the obvious consequence of taking "reductive" thinking to an absurd extreme.

    Imagine if the Japanese, for instance, had reacted to European ascendancy with the mindset of a Derbyshire, Sailer, or Karlin - they would be our slaves.

    But the Japanese never took "reductive" thinking altogether too seriously. It was always a tool for them, never a God.

    The upshot is never trust a man who takes numbers too seriously - it leads to a drastic loss of perspective, an inability to place any given "fact" in a larger dynamic context, and prepares one mentally for slavery.

    It’s almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It’s a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision – and is the obvious consequence of taking “reductive” thinking to an absurd extreme

    I would disagree . I think high thinking whites lean more to inductive reasoning, what is observably true and abductive reasoning, what s most likely true.

    Reductive reasoning shows what is not true….but it has to beat the inductve and abductive first.

    I do think Jews see a big picture, the picture which is their goal ….but not the world big picture…. and….unlike high thinking non Jews, Jews do not consider the ramifications of each step they make toward that goal….iow they do not think out the end results ……they simply push steps for an end result, much like throwing shit on the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

    The nature of the Jew make them incapable of understanding that the steps they take mount up to eventual backlash and cause them to lose their big picture goal. Think of the steps they have taken, the Gaza assault, the effort to violate the constitution by criminalizing boycotting Israel…each time they push for their big picture the number of people who become anti Israel and anti Jews increases.

    Some Jewish writer who’s name I cant remember now once wrote of the Jews….”we lose because we have never be able to look into the others eyes and know when they have had enough”

    Jews will eventually lose the US because of their attention getting shit throwing steps to their big picture.
    Its their narcissism that prevents them from seeing the real world big picture. And yes numbers do count. There are 7.8 billion people in the world and only 15 million of them are Jews.

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    Well yes, I largely agree with what you're saying...

    And yes, the great age of European thinking did involve white people taking a larger view, and Jewish thinking is characteristically narrow by definition almost...

    My point is that a sort of "disease" has taken over the thinking of a significant portion of highly intelligent white people, and that it makes their thinking even narrower than that of Jews...which is truly remarkable.

    And this way of thinking is simply taking reductionist thinking to absurd extremes, where you can no longer see any kind of context.

    Guys like Derbyshire, Karlin etc are in a significant and interesting way even narrower thinkers than Jews.

    As weird as it sounds, Jewish self-interest creates a larger intellectual horizon than Karlin's stopping before each and every contemporary "fact" as if it were final, eternal, and permanent, and the consequent worship of "winning" - since by definition wining is a fait accompli, and if you cannot connect faits accompli to a wider context they necessarily seem final and irreversible...

    Even though Jews by definition worship "winning", they do not worship the fait acconpli, the mere contemporary "fact"....they place it in a larger context.

    To get an idea of what I'm saying, for Jews a defeat or centuries spent in low status aren't final, for guys like Karlin a few decades of whites being on the defensive are enough to convince him it's the "natural" order of things..

    Whites are guided by facts and dominated by them - and a fact is only what happens to be the case at the moment. Jews and Asians place facts in larger contexts - i.e connect them to larger sets of facts - and have a dynamic relationship with them.

    I don't mean all whites at all times - not setting up a "natural" order here - just a significant portion of highly intelligent contemporary whites.

    Anyways, this is all just highly speculative mumbo jumbo I like to amuse myself with...I think it's illuminating but I'm sure it has lots of wholes in it...
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  • @jilles dykstra
    Injustice to jews, many butchers in pre 1914 Germany were jews, Polish jews were artisans in glass manufacture.
    Preparation of hides, also done to a large extent by jews.
    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
    Then there were the watchmakers and jewellers, as at present the diamond industry in Antwerp and Amsterdam is to a large extent still a jewish business.
    Then there were many small jewish shop keepers.
    There of course is the accusation of usury, alas it is often forgotten that getting one's money back was not at all sure.

    Of course some Jews have done those jobs, but they aren’t numerous. Where are they now? When were Jews known to make up the majority of peasants, farmers, builders, soldiers, heavy laborers, etc.?

    As far as charging interest goes, I don’t mind a certain amount, but when a whole society is built upon credit, with rates beyond what a monster mobster would charge, something is wrong.

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    Jewish even dont want itto do those jobs in Israel So the gomys from troubled countries come to do it. They come and say how happy they are to be in Israel. They are happy to escape the scourges of the exploratory capitalism and wars . Israel then adds one more feather to its laurels .
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  • @Anon
    Question for Nathan Cofnas...

    Does he feel himself to be Jewish, is he proud of his Jewish identity?

    Does he work to further Jewish identity and interests?

    Does he want Jewish Power to remain dominant in the West?

    Furthermore..

    How would Jews feel in Israel IF, say, Polish Catholics made up 2% of the population, had an average IQ of 130, gained control of media, finance, academia, and law(and bought up most politicians) and pushed a narrative that made Jews feel dirty and guilty for having Jewish identity and interests?

    I a few times changed the example, our four percent or so Muslims having the same position in society, and the same control.
    It is not going to happen, I expect.
    A few hundred highly educated Turks escaped from Erdogan to the Netherlands, profound different people from the old immigrants we have, compared with their present political leader Kuzu, of the political party DENK, who excels in throwing in the windows of his voters.
    I sometimes compare DENK to Israel.

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  • @OilcanFloyd
    The white population is a group with a broader range of IQs and abilities, which is characteristic of a full society. Any functioning society needs farmers, mechanics, cooks, cleaners, builders, laborers, etc, and the presence of these people in a group does not take away from the group. They add to the group, and allow the society to function, no matter if they lower the average group IQ by a few points, or not. For Jews to have an America that they believe they can dominate long-term, they have to import these people, which they are doing.

    Does anyone believe that a society of middlemen, academics, schemers, unemployed religious nuts, hustlers, rabble trousers, and charlatans could stand on its own, no matter how high the average IQ?

    Injustice to jews, many butchers in pre 1914 Germany were jews, Polish jews were artisans in glass manufacture.
    Preparation of hides, also done to a large extent by jews.
    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
    Then there were the watchmakers and jewellers, as at present the diamond industry in Antwerp and Amsterdam is to a large extent still a jewish business.
    Then there were many small jewish shop keepers.
    There of course is the accusation of usury, alas it is often forgotten that getting one’s money back was not at all sure.

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    Of course some Jews have done those jobs, but they aren't numerous. Where are they now? When were Jews known to make up the majority of peasants, farmers, builders, soldiers, heavy laborers, etc.?

    As far as charging interest goes, I don't mind a certain amount, but when a whole society is built upon credit, with rates beyond what a monster mobster would charge, something is wrong.
    , @renfro

    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
     
    When Russia gave farmland and livestock to Jews so they could have a self ruling region within Russia the Jews would not farm the land and raise crops to feed themselves---so they started slaughtering the cattle and eating them.
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  • @Bardon Kaldian

    Wilhelmine Germany also had a huge Jewish population, which powered its technological progress. There’s a reason that Germany was the preeminent global center of science circa 1900, but has contributed virtually nothing since 1935.
     
    ¸

    This is ahistorical & simply wrong. Post 1871 Germany did not have "huge" Jewish population; it was ca. 400,000 people, as I recall. And most German accomplishments were done by ethnic Germans.

    Even more, much more creative period in German (I'll include Austria because I'm writing about German-speaking world) Enlightenment & early 19th C period, from 1770-1830, when German genius was massively creative in all fields, including sciences, philosophy, literature, music- and not a single Jew among creative titans: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Euler, Gauss, Goethe, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, von Clausewitz, brothers Grimm, Alexander and Wilhelm von Humboldt, Scheele, Hamann, Herder, ...

    German recovery after 1945. is much more fascinating because this country was virtually plundered by victorious Allies & had overtaken re productivity, innovation & economic success supposed victors (Britain, France,..) as early as 1950s.

    I’d mention Otto, the inventor of the present four stroke engine, Diesel, who made this engine run on diesel fuel, without an ignition, Lilienthal who flew in gliders, Zepppelin, the airship inventor, a disaster because the USA refused helium, the jet engine, already tested in WWI, Benz, who constructed the first car, who were the inventors of synthetic fertilisers, that replaced guiano from S America, and anilin, for dying clothes, do not know.
    Krupp also can be mentioned, they built also other things than the cannon that in WWI bombarded Paris from 120 km, some 75 miles, distance.
    The projectiles reached 40 km height.
    Von Moltke will be seen as a German militarist, he could be seen as such because he and his staff could organise large scale troop movement by rail, already in 1870.
    German militarism, mainly organisation talent.

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  • @Bardon Kaldian

    Wilhelmine Germany also had a huge Jewish population, which powered its technological progress. There’s a reason that Germany was the preeminent global center of science circa 1900, but has contributed virtually nothing since 1935.
     
    ¸

    This is ahistorical & simply wrong. Post 1871 Germany did not have "huge" Jewish population; it was ca. 400,000 people, as I recall. And most German accomplishments were done by ethnic Germans.

    Even more, much more creative period in German (I'll include Austria because I'm writing about German-speaking world) Enlightenment & early 19th C period, from 1770-1830, when German genius was massively creative in all fields, including sciences, philosophy, literature, music- and not a single Jew among creative titans: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Euler, Gauss, Goethe, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, von Clausewitz, brothers Grimm, Alexander and Wilhelm von Humboldt, Scheele, Hamann, Herder, ...

    German recovery after 1945. is much more fascinating because this country was virtually plundered by victorious Allies & had overtaken re productivity, innovation & economic success supposed victors (Britain, France,..) as early as 1950s.

    After WWII the USSR plundered industrially, not so much USA and GB.
    So VW and Mercedes production was resumed shortly after the capitulation.

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    While East Germany was plundered by the USSR have you any evidence that the Western allies also plundered? I heard nothing of this from my Germsn hosts when I was a PG learning the language years ago when memories wete still vivid and not all favourable to the Western occupiers.

    Are you aware of the work of Mancur Olson? It was he I think which gave great credit to the reorganisation of the labor market in Western Germany while the UK and France remained stuck with the power of their appalling labor unions. He wrote a couple of major books: see Wiki entry.

    The west plundered both after WWI and WWII.
    It was best visible after WWI, so, for example the whole German fleet was stolen, as locomotives, carriages etc.
    After WWI it was most scientific knowledge, such as Von Braun and several hundred specialists kidnapped and brought to the USA.
    At first the USA did not know what to do with them, prime motive to keep them out of USSR hands.
    Thus their ‘welcome’ speech ‘you are here on ice’.
    There were more projects, such as the flying wing.
    If the German tests were a success I do not know, the USA effort was a disaster.

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  • @AaronB
    Very interesting angle, that Derbyshire and Sailer and karlin etc are getting funding. It's so baffling otherwise that I'm prepared to consider it.

    But yes, Ayn Rand, libertarianism, IQ myth, etc - the final and most complete expression of "winner worship" and "fact worship" that Western culture has produced and perhaps "the" fatal handicap from which the West will not recover.

    As bad as Jewish culture is, Jews would never see the success of any European people as representing an inevitable cosmic hierarchy simply because, for the moment, it "won".

    It's almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It's a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision - and is the obvious consequence of taking "reductive" thinking to an absurd extreme.

    Imagine if the Japanese, for instance, had reacted to European ascendancy with the mindset of a Derbyshire, Sailer, or Karlin - they would be our slaves.

    But the Japanese never took "reductive" thinking altogether too seriously. It was always a tool for them, never a God.

    The upshot is never trust a man who takes numbers too seriously - it leads to a drastic loss of perspective, an inability to place any given "fact" in a larger dynamic context, and prepares one mentally for slavery.

    Utu – and everyone else interested in making a leap in sophisticated thinking – read this amazing article on appearance and reality in Chinese thinking.

    It has tremendous significance for dealing with Jews as well as Asians. We live in a globalized world now.

    https://www.unz.com/print/Encounter-1968may-00008/

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  • @Tbbh
    Perhaps they should organize better, study harder, and not have patently racist tiki torch parades, where they keep blowing themselves out of the water.

    By "european", do you mean my Swiss and German family or Greek and Sicilian goat farmers?

    do you mean my Swiss and German family

    Wow!

    IF this is true…

    .. your credibility is so low as to be effectively zero, if not actually negative[*]…

    THEN what the hell went wrong?

    *["negative credibility" is interpreted as 'whatever s/he says, the opposite is more likely.']

    Not so BTW, IF it’s so bad THEN why are you *still* here?

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  • @Amasius
    It's ethnocentric networking and it always has been. Sephardim in Medieval Spain, the Hellenized jews Strabo wrote about in the ancient world:

    "The Jews have penetrated every country, so that it is difficult to find any place in the world where their tribe has not entered and become dominant."

    They play as a team against people who are playing against one another as individuals. Then when those people perk up and fight back it's "oy vey, I'm being persecuted, why!?"

    I'm sure the early discredited stuff about Ashkenazi jews possessing 115 average IQ's or higher with verbal ability so high it couldn't be measured, or whatever, was an artifact of selective sampling and immigration. Contra the myth of the wretched refuse, the dirt-poor ragpicker whose son got into Harvard, you had to have at least some money and wherewithal to make the trip to America from the Polish ghettoes in the first place. Back-projecting the intelligence of these immigrants onto all jews would be like doing the same with Chinese immigrants and Chinese back home, or Indian immigrants and India.

    The fact that Israel, while first world, is no where near as impressive as the Asian tigers and Japan and China (or more impressive than goy Europe) should prove that jews aren't supermen at all.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-jewish-genetic-genius-can-make-israel-a-hong-kong-squared/

    Lol then why doesn't it? Even with all the shekels showering on them from America they just live in a slightly better Lebanon.

    Fake quote.

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  • @Bardon Kaldian

    Wilhelmine Germany also had a huge Jewish population, which powered its technological progress. There’s a reason that Germany was the preeminent global center of science circa 1900, but has contributed virtually nothing since 1935.
     
    ¸

    This is ahistorical & simply wrong. Post 1871 Germany did not have "huge" Jewish population; it was ca. 400,000 people, as I recall. And most German accomplishments were done by ethnic Germans.

    Even more, much more creative period in German (I'll include Austria because I'm writing about German-speaking world) Enlightenment & early 19th C period, from 1770-1830, when German genius was massively creative in all fields, including sciences, philosophy, literature, music- and not a single Jew among creative titans: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Euler, Gauss, Goethe, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, von Clausewitz, brothers Grimm, Alexander and Wilhelm von Humboldt, Scheele, Hamann, Herder, ...

    German recovery after 1945. is much more fascinating because this country was virtually plundered by victorious Allies & had overtaken re productivity, innovation & economic success supposed victors (Britain, France,..) as early as 1950s.

    While East Germany was plundered by the USSR have you any evidence that the Western allies also plundered? I heard nothing of this from my Germsn hosts when I was a PG learning the language years ago when memories wete still vivid and not all favourable to the Western occupiers.

    Are you aware of the work of Mancur Olson? It was he I think which gave great credit to the reorganisation of the labor market in Western Germany while the UK and France remained stuck with the power of their appalling labor unions. He wrote a couple of major books: see Wiki entry.

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    The west plundered both after WWI and WWII.
    It was best visible after WWI, so, for example the whole German fleet was stolen, as locomotives, carriages etc.
    After WWI it was most scientific knowledge, such as Von Braun and several hundred specialists kidnapped and brought to the USA.
    At first the USA did not know what to do with them, prime motive to keep them out of USSR hands.
    Thus their 'welcome' speech 'you are here on ice'.
    There were more projects, such as the flying wing.
    If the German tests were a success I do not know, the USA effort was a disaster.
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  • @utu
    Yes I forgot about Derbyshire, Karlin and Jordan Peterson. About motives of them and Murray, Lynn, Cochran and Sailer we can only speculate but I do not care any more. We know them by their fruits. Perhaps I was concerned about Karlin at some point because he was young and I thought that he could be salvaged and that Russia did not need the poison he was bringing there. But our culture produces soulless and shallow Karlins by tens of thousands every year so who care about one more or less lost soul.

    I would find interesting if I could get some information about where do the money comes from and how conscious of what they are doing are the sponsors or are they just another shell of useful idiots.

    I think that the triad of Ayn Rand, Libertarianism and IQism is one of the most vile enterprises ever designed to to trap and destroy the minds and souls of young generations.

    Very interesting angle, that Derbyshire and Sailer and karlin etc are getting funding. It’s so baffling otherwise that I’m prepared to consider it.

    But yes, Ayn Rand, libertarianism, IQ myth, etc – the final and most complete expression of “winner worship” and “fact worship” that Western culture has produced and perhaps “the” fatal handicap from which the West will not recover.

    As bad as Jewish culture is, Jews would never see the success of any European people as representing an inevitable cosmic hierarchy simply because, for the moment, it “won”.

    It’s almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It’s a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision – and is the obvious consequence of taking “reductive” thinking to an absurd extreme.

    Imagine if the Japanese, for instance, had reacted to European ascendancy with the mindset of a Derbyshire, Sailer, or Karlin – they would be our slaves.

    But the Japanese never took “reductive” thinking altogether too seriously. It was always a tool for them, never a God.

    The upshot is never trust a man who takes numbers too seriously – it leads to a drastic loss of perspective, an inability to place any given “fact” in a larger dynamic context, and prepares one mentally for slavery.

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    Utu - and everyone else interested in making a leap in sophisticated thinking - read this amazing article on appearance and reality in Chinese thinking.

    It has tremendous significance for dealing with Jews as well as Asians. We live in a globalized world now.

    https://www.unz.com/print/Encounter-1968may-00008/
    , @renfro

    It’s almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It’s a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision – and is the obvious consequence of taking “reductive” thinking to an absurd extreme
     

    I would disagree . I think high thinking whites lean more to inductive reasoning, what is observably true and abductive reasoning, what s most likely true.

    Reductive reasoning shows what is not true....but it has to beat the inductve and abductive first.

    I do think Jews see a big picture, the picture which is their goal ....but not the world big picture.... and....unlike high thinking non Jews, Jews do not consider the ramifications of each step they make toward that goal....iow they do not think out the end results ......they simply push steps for an end result, much like throwing shit on the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

    The nature of the Jew make them incapable of understanding that the steps they take mount up to eventual backlash and cause them to lose their big picture goal. Think of the steps they have taken, the Gaza assault, the effort to violate the constitution by criminalizing boycotting Israel...each time they push for their big picture the number of people who become anti Israel and anti Jews increases.


    Some Jewish writer who's name I cant remember now once wrote of the Jews...."we lose because we have never be able to look into the others eyes and know when they have had enough''

    Jews will eventually lose the US because of their attention getting shit throwing steps to their big picture.
    Its their narcissism that prevents them from seeing the real world big picture. And yes numbers do count. There are 7.8 billion people in the world and only 15 million of them are Jews.

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  • @Sam J.
    "...I think MacDonald is a bit silly to put his thesis in explicitly or strictly evolutionary terms – Jews need not have inherited some set of particular genes in order to explain all of their hostile behavior..."

    I think he's on firm ground here. Have any of you noticed that Jews seem to bloom into the typical Jewy type in their mid thirties? It's like puberty or something. Before they are more normal but at 35 or so they go through Jewberty.

    If that’s true there would be a very commomplace explanation if they are doing the same as non Jewish whites and settling into the social milieu of people getting married and having children, partly deliberately as they make choices for their children and attend to their proper upbringing.

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  • @Corvinus
    "Unfortunately, all the intellectual and political movements Jews have forced on the rest of the world for the last 250 years have been detrimental to mankind."

    I didn't realize force constitute a willingness by whites and non-whites to embrace "Jew" line of thinking.

    Tres droll. This also for Tyrion 2:

    The ‘force’ = so-called ‘soft power’ = US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc., ta ra! The Bernays haze.

    In ‘plain text,’ the proles are ‘dumbed down’ and sold ‘a bill of goods’ via vicious lies – like Iraqi WMDs, 9/11 inside-job, latest stupidity = alleged Russian ‘nerve agents.’

    No worthwhile project needs a ‘lie-screen,’ only ‘just law’ may earn respect.

    Recovering our world from utter shit, crap and corruption will take massive effort – IMHO not merely ‘worth it’ but absolutely necessary.

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    "The ‘force’ = so-called ‘soft power’ = US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc., ta ra! The Bernays haze."

    You are making large-scale generalizations here. Are you not taking into strong account that white Americans generally have a high IQ and high time preferences, that they are able to use their logic and reasoning skills to make their own decisions regarding race and culture?

    Praytell, what makes you "woke"? How are you not one of the "duped"?

    "In ‘plain text,’ the proles are ‘dumbed down’ and sold ‘a bill of goods’ via vicious lies – like Iraqi WMDs, 9/11 inside-job, latest stupidity = alleged Russian ‘nerve agents.’"

    You are assuming that proles lack the ability to analyze messages and think for themselves, that they are easily manipulated. You're going to have to offer specific evidence that the American public has been undeniably swayed by globalists and Zionists.

    "Recovering our world from utter shit, crap and corruption will take massive effort..."

    "Our" world? So who exactly is in it? Perhaps more importantly, who is not part of it?
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  • @Simon in London
    >>why Israeli women in particular or Jewish women more generally are so, so incredibly sexy?<<

    Women from self-confident ethno-states like Israel tend to reflect that confidence in their looks. Non-Israeli Jewish women don't show this.

    A confident state would stand on its own. Israel projects paranoia, and is fully dependent on the U.S. and the West. Israel can’t even deal confidently with the Palestinians!

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  • @renfro

    What I found “really” interesting is that somewhere in one of Ron’s articles he mentions that Jewish IQ was actually not higher than whites until after WW2
     
    Well , that would be in keeping with the army QI test I posted about above....at time of WWI Jews tested much below the Anglo Saxon test takers. They continued to test lower for several decades until their IQ results started gaining in the late 50's-60's. We have to remember the biggest wave of Jews--2 million Jewish immigrants--occurred between 1899 and 1920, so they didn't hit their stride until 3o years later, after exposure to secular US education. system. Some more recent I think is some of the Russia Jews who got excellent educations in Russia.

    Here to me is the pertinent part as to why IQs cycle, iow tend to rise and then fall off.
    The difference between urban and rural also makes sense in noting that the internet as a learning tool has closed the gap with the Jews who mostly had the advantage of more educational opportunity/exposure in urban areas.
    I guess we Episcopalians could put the Jews in their place as ...''An analysis of the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that Americans raised in the Episcopal Church actually exceeded Jews in mean IQ, while several other religious categories came quite close, leading to the result that the overwhelming majority of America’s high-ability white population had a non-Jewish background.
    Also some where in the study it is mentioned that the high IQs of the Anglo Saxons has held steady, while others have dipped after long period in America .

    ''Taken in combination, these trends all provide powerful evidence that over the last decade or more there has been a dramatic collapse in Jewish academic achievement, at least at the high end.
    Several possible explanations for this empirical result seem reasonably plausible. Although the innate potential of a group is unlikely to drop so suddenly, achievement is a function of both ability and effort, and today’s overwhelmingly affluent Jewish students may be far less diligent in their work habits or driven in their studies than were their parents or grandparents, who lived much closer to the bracing challenges of the immigrant experience. In support of this hypothesis, roughly half of the Jewish Math Olympiad winners from the last two decades have had the sort of highly distinctive names which would tend to mark them as recent immigrants from the Soviet Union or elsewhere, and such names were also very common among the top Jewish science students of the same period, even though this group represents only about 10 percent of current American Jews. Indeed, it seems quite possible that this large sudden influx of very high performing immigrant Jews from the late 1980s onward served to partially mask the rapid concurrent decline of high academic achievement among native American Jews, which otherwise would have become much more clearly evident a decade or so earlier.

    This pattern of third or fourth generation American students lacking the academic drive or intensity of their forefathers is hardly surprising, nor unique to Jews. Consider the case of Japanese-Americans, who mostly arrived in America during roughly the same era. America’s Japanese have always been a high-performing group, with a strong academic tradition, and Japan’s international PISA academic scores are today among the highest in the world. But when we examine the list of California’s NMS semifinalists, less than 1 percent of the names are Japanese, roughly in line with their share of the California population.[62] Meanwhile, Chinese, Koreans, and South Asians are 6 percent of California but contribute 50 percent of the top scoring students, an eight-fold better result, with a major likely difference being that they are overwhelmingly of recent immigrant origin. In fact, although ongoing Japanese immigration has been trivial in size, a significant fraction of the top Japanese students have the unassimilated Japanese first names that would tend to indicate they are probably drawn from that tiny group.
    In some respects, perhaps it was the enormously outsize Jewish academic performance of the past which was highly anomalous, and the more recent partial convergence toward white European norms which is somewhat less surprising. Over the years, claims have been widely circulated that the mean Jewish IQ is a full standard deviation—15 points—above the white average of 100,[64] but this seems to have little basis in reality. Richard Lynn, one of the world’s foremost IQ experts, has performed an exhaustive literature review and located some 32 IQ samples of American Jews, taken from 1920 to 2008. For the first 14 studies conducted during the years 1920–1937, the Jewish IQ came out very close to the white American mean, and it was only in later decades that the average figure rose to the approximate range of 107–111.[65]

    In a previous article “Race, IQ & Wealth,” I had suggested that the IQs of ethnic groups appear to be far more malleable than many people would acknowledge, and may be particularly influenced by factors of urbanization, education, and affluence.[66] Given that Jews have always been America’s most heavily urbanized population and became the most affluent during the decades in question, these factors may account for a substantial portion of their huge IQ rise during most of the twentieth century. But with modern electronic technology recently narrowing the gaps in social environment and educational opportunities between America’s rural and urban worlds, we might expect a portion of this difference to gradually dissipate. American Jews are certainly a high-ability population, but the innate advantage they have over other high-ability white populations is probably far smaller than is widely believed

    This conclusion is supported by the General Social Survey (GSS), an online dataset of tens of thousands of American survey responses from the last forty years which includes the Wordsum vocabulary test, a very useful IQ proxy correlating at 0.71. Converted into the corresponding IQ scores, the Wordsum-IQ of Jews is indeed quite high at 109. But Americans of English, Welsh, Scottish, Swedish, and Catholic Irish ancestry also have fairly high mean IQs of 104 or above, and their combined populations outnumber Jews by almost 15-to-1, implying that they would totally dominate the upper reaches of the white American ability distribution, even if we excluded the remaining two-thirds of all American whites, many of whose IQs are also fairly high. Furthermore, all these groups are far less highly urbanized or affluent than Jews,[67] probably indicating that their scores are still artificially depressed to some extent. We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.

    Stratifying the white American population along religious lines produces similar conclusions. An analysis of the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that Americans raised in the Episcopal Church actually exceeded Jews in mean IQ, while several other religious categories came quite close, leading to the result that the overwhelming majority of America’s high-ability white population had a non-Jewish background.[68]
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#asian-americans-and-jews

    Thanks for the comment – it’s amazing how many interlocking factors Ron mentions that undercut the narrative of higher Jewish IQ. Until one reads Ron on this it’s hard fully appreciate just how weak of an argument it is, although most intelligent people reach that conclusion on their own.

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  • @anon
    If you look at the three studies in the Curt Dunkel paper, (Dunkel is also referenced by Cofnas) and you weight their results sensibly,** you'll find that Jewish IQ is about 107 and non-Jewish whites 101-102. This gives Jews a 6 point advantage (or maybe less), or .4 standard deviations.

    Given these numbers, you'll expect Jews to outnumber non-Jewish Whites per capita above IQ of 145 by a factor of 3.45. Taking 145 as the IQ of a Harvard students (which is probably too high, probably more like 130-135), and given that Jews are 1.8% of the college age population, and non-Jewish Whites are about 50%, you'd expect Jews to be about 5.4% of Harvard students, and non-Jewish whites somewhere north of 60%..***

    I feel like I've been reasonable, even generous in my treatment of these numbers. If Jews are over 10% of Harvard students, it raises big questions about the meritocracy of its admissions policies.

    ** The two studies with the larger sample sizes and comprehensiveness give Jews an IQ advantage of only about 4-5 points, according to my calculations. (MIDUS II and Project Talent)

    *** This 60% figure is based on mental math, unlike the 5.4% Jewish figure which I manually calculated. This is based on the IQ of the U.S. as a whole is about 98, factoring in Black, Hispanic and Asian IQs. White IQ is about 101.5, so a bit higher than the average American.

    The white population is a group with a broader range of IQs and abilities, which is characteristic of a full society. Any functioning society needs farmers, mechanics, cooks, cleaners, builders, laborers, etc, and the presence of these people in a group does not take away from the group. They add to the group, and allow the society to function, no matter if they lower the average group IQ by a few points, or not. For Jews to have an America that they believe they can dominate long-term, they have to import these people, which they are doing.

    Does anyone believe that a society of middlemen, academics, schemers, unemployed religious nuts, hustlers, rabble trousers, and charlatans could stand on its own, no matter how high the average IQ?

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    Injustice to jews, many butchers in pre 1914 Germany were jews, Polish jews were artisans in glass manufacture.
    Preparation of hides, also done to a large extent by jews.
    Cattle trade, also often done by jews.
    Then there were the watchmakers and jewellers, as at present the diamond industry in Antwerp and Amsterdam is to a large extent still a jewish business.
    Then there were many small jewish shop keepers.
    There of course is the accusation of usury, alas it is often forgotten that getting one's money back was not at all sure.
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  • @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    “Because of their above-average intelligence and concentration in influential urban areas, Jews in recent history have been overrepresented in all major intellectual and political movements, including conservative movements, that were not overtly anti-Semitic”.
     
    What are the odds that "overtly anti-Semitic" as used in Cofnas' critique has an extraordinarily broad meaning to include movements that are not in any meaningful way anti-Semitic?

    A critique of the critique might well make some hay by using Sobran's late definition of anti-Semite: viz, "an anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews . . . [n]ow it means a man who is hated by Jews." Jews have never had a particular problem finding homes in left wing movements where they've been made to share space with vocal, out-and-proud anti-Semites. Accordingly, all that can be concluded is that Jews define anti-Semitism in terms of the benefits inuring to or hindrances of perceived Jewish interests and not as a product of actual and expressed hatred of Jews. If Jews manning the ADL or SPLC hate you, well then sir I must conclude that you are an Anti-Semite, and join in their hatred of anti-Semites!

    I think MacDonald is a bit silly to put his thesis in explicitly or strictly evolutionary terms - Jews need not have inherited some set of particular genes in order to explain all of their hostile behavior. Indeed, they explain the roots of their hostile behavior themselves in the art and literature that they make. It's preposterous to ignore what Jews across time and in so many different contexts tell you themselves about what they hate and what they love. Is there another people who think that they're so clever that they can out-smart God and play him for a fool?

    “…I think MacDonald is a bit silly to put his thesis in explicitly or strictly evolutionary terms – Jews need not have inherited some set of particular genes in order to explain all of their hostile behavior…”

    I think he’s on firm ground here. Have any of you noticed that Jews seem to bloom into the typical Jewy type in their mid thirties? It’s like puberty or something. Before they are more normal but at 35 or so they go through Jewberty.

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    If that's true there would be a very commomplace explanation if they are doing the same as non Jewish whites and settling into the social milieu of people getting married and having children, partly deliberately as they make choices for their children and attend to their proper upbringing.
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  • @Tbbh
    All jews "started it", even the jews utterly uninvolved in any of ot, until dragged out of their beds by THUGS...

    “That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.”

    A somewhat double-sided thesis, especially when jousting with a perceived enemy, such as Jews, say – or even with connection-denying non-Jews strenuously defending Jews, so therefore in a way, crypto-Jews. [A corollary of the 'Pottery Barn' rule = you break it, you own it = you pay for it. This forum is not some sort of 'moot court;' you defend them, you join them = you *make yourself* one of them.] Especially when what/whom you defend is the illegitimate entity evilly squatting on Palestine, mostly populated by invading alien, supreme international crime = murdering for Lebensraum criminals [their heirs and successors] – who in turn, are drawn from and supported by the entire Jewish [mostly Khazar-descended = *non*-Semite, *non*-Hebrew = fake-joo] tribe. Who in turn parasitically infest ‘the West’ plus much of the rest, Oh woe!

    KISS:

    [COED:] Occam’s razor (also Ockham’s razor)
    noun the scientific principle that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary.

    We can make a looong story short, merely by posing a few pertinent Qs:

    1. Can it be determined, if the presence of Jews is more or less harmful to the whole wide world?

    2. Can it be determined, if the presence of Israel is more or less harmful to the ME and/or the wider world?

    3. Most important, could non-Jews [aka the charmingly termed 'Goys;' the term "goyim" means "cattle" in Hebrew] live a satisfactory life, in the total *absence* of Jews?

    4. Speaking of *absence* of Jews, could the US so recover their nation?

    Readers are encouraged to extend this ‘line of inquiry.’

    I have recently proposed 2 practical, inclusive solutions, 1) for Palestine, RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation and 2) for all Jews, ‘marching orders’ and travel documents/tickets to the moon … err, to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, administrative centre being the town of Birobidzhan in the Russian Far East. IMHO, both worth a fair try. rgds

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    • Replies: @ANON
    If you write so obsessively and at such great length about Jews yet haven't taken the elementary trouble to understand the source and errors of the Jews-as-Khazarians myth (with just enough truth in it to encourage braxen liars) you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
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  • @Doug
    > I think it is important to note that technological progress and political liberalism do not necessarily go together, as the wealthy and technologically-advanced Wilhelmine Germany showed

    Wilhelmine Germany also had a huge Jewish population, which powered its technological progress. There's a reason that Germany was the preeminent global center of science circa 1900, but has contributed virtually nothing since 1935.

    Wilhelmine Germany also had a huge Jewish population, which powered its technological progress. There’s a reason that Germany was the preeminent global center of science circa 1900, but has contributed virtually nothing since 1935.

    ¸

    This is ahistorical & simply wrong. Post 1871 Germany did not have “huge” Jewish population; it was ca. 400,000 people, as I recall. And most German accomplishments were done by ethnic Germans.

    Even more, much more creative period in German (I’ll include Austria because I’m writing about German-speaking world) Enlightenment & early 19th C period, from 1770-1830, when German genius was massively creative in all fields, including sciences, philosophy, literature, music- and not a single Jew among creative titans: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Euler, Gauss, Goethe, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, von Clausewitz, brothers Grimm, Alexander and Wilhelm von Humboldt, Scheele, Hamann, Herder, …

    German recovery after 1945. is much more fascinating because this country was virtually plundered by victorious Allies & had overtaken re productivity, innovation & economic success supposed victors (Britain, France,..) as early as 1950s.

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    While East Germany was plundered by the USSR have you any evidence that the Western allies also plundered? I heard nothing of this from my Germsn hosts when I was a PG learning the language years ago when memories wete still vivid and not all favourable to the Western occupiers.

    Are you aware of the work of Mancur Olson? It was he I think which gave great credit to the reorganisation of the labor market in Western Germany while the UK and France remained stuck with the power of their appalling labor unions. He wrote a couple of major books: see Wiki entry.
    , @jilles dykstra
    After WWII the USSR plundered industrially, not so much USA and GB.
    So VW and Mercedes production was resumed shortly after the capitulation.
    , @jilles dykstra
    I'd mention Otto, the inventor of the present four stroke engine, Diesel, who made this engine run on diesel fuel, without an ignition, Lilienthal who flew in gliders, Zepppelin, the airship inventor, a disaster because the USA refused helium, the jet engine, already tested in WWI, Benz, who constructed the first car, who were the inventors of synthetic fertilisers, that replaced guiano from S America, and anilin, for dying clothes, do not know.
    Krupp also can be mentioned, they built also other things than the cannon that in WWI bombarded Paris from 120 km, some 75 miles, distance.
    The projectiles reached 40 km height.
    Von Moltke will be seen as a German militarist, he could be seen as such because he and his staff could organise large scale troop movement by rail, already in 1870.
    German militarism, mainly organisation talent.
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  • @AaronB
    I didn't say it matteted....I merely said it can't, mathematically, be a function of their IQ, and if Nathan Cofnas says it is, he's either being stupid, dishonest, or ignorant.

    As to the question of whether it "matters", that all depends on your point of view.

    Now, are you honest enough and smart enough to admit the one indisputable fact here - that Jewish over-representation can't possibly be explained by their IQ?

    Its a pretty simple point, and until you can demonstrate a basic level of good faith and honesty it's pretty pointless talking to you.

    “Now, are you honest enough and smart enough to admit the one indisputable fact here – that Jewish over-representation can’t possibly be explained by their IQ?”

    It’s not indisputable. I am certainly open to that distinct possibility. But, to me, it’s egghead stuff. Normies tend to focus on practical matters.

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  • @anon
    renfro:

    I didn't pay as much attention to the personality stuff. In the Defense of Dunkel et al., Israeli's personalities are very different from diaspora Jews' (anecdotally speaking).

    And, he didn't rank Jews higher in conscientiousness, but he did rank them higher in self-confidence (not surprising). Make of it what you will.

    Jews also have a reputation for being charming (and sometimes also psychopathic, which is probably related). A charming/(psycopathic) personality *is* effective. Aren't bosses stereotyped that way? (I also suspect it's a Middle Eastern thing.)

    ” Israeli’s personalities are very different from diaspora Jews’ ”

    What makes you think so ?
    For me the similarity with jews in Roman times is striking
    Michael Grant, ‘The Jews in the Roman World’, 1973, New York
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London

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  • @renfro
    I looked at Dunkel's paper and almost died laughing...are you sure you linked to the right paper?

    His paper consist of saying the jewish high IQ also gives them 'superior personality traits' and sets out to measure personalities (using some kind of student activities list)

    And lo and behold!!!!....who would have guessed that high Jew IQs also make them have better personalities !

    He ranks Jews as higher than Catholics, Christians and all others in:

    Tidiness
    Cleanliness
    Sensitivity
    Culture
    Agreeableness
    Vigor
    Calmness
    Sociability

    I am sorry I cant stop laughing at this....particularly the calmness, cleanliness and agreeableness ..when the entire world is going deaf from their God awful ear drum splitting screeching 24/7..and Israeli Jews have to be told to shower before going into pools and we and the world are subject to non agreeableness of Jews smearing, lying , character assassinating every one on earth.

    Ladies and Gentlemen I submit this piece by Mr Dunkel as proof of the myth of superior Jewish intelligence.

    The assimilated Viennese jews at once became antisemites when their dirty deeply religious brethren from he east arrived, around 1900.
    Klaus Hödl, ‘Als Bettler in die Leopoldstadt, Galizische Juden auf dem Weg nach Wien’, Wien, 1994
    In the thirties in the Netherlands the assimilated sephardic jews reacted in the same way.

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  • The fact that there’s all this kvetching and spraying lox on the monitor over an obscure book written 20 years ago is a very positive thing for our movement. Some of these commenters seem to be barely able to resist yelling “how dare you goyim!” and “muh Einstein muh Salk!” while pounding the table and shrieking in Yiddish. 20 years ago most people had never heard of this book just like 20 years ago someone like Jordan Peterson would have never had to publicly state his thoughts on the “Jewish Question”, now millions have heard of the book just like millions have laughed at JP’s pathetic reply. People are waking up. There are no brakes on this train.

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  • @Yan Shen
    Well I hate to uh detract from what will surely become a fascinating thread on a highly important topic, but does either MacDonald or Cofnas have any thoughts on why Israeli women in particular or Jewish women more generally are so, so incredibly sexy? I mean Gal Gadot, Natalie Portman, Bar Refaeli, my goodness! How did that evolve and can we get some more of that to counterbalance any of the potential negative externalities of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy? More Wonder Women please!

    I mean gentile, white societies may very well be run into the ground in the coming decades thanks to the insidious effects of Judaism, but at the very least sexy Jewish chicks will temper the pain of the Jewpocalypse somewhat. It's kinda like how that Fred Reed fellow is constantly trying to inundate us with subliminal images of nubile Latina honies...

    >>why Israeli women in particular or Jewish women more generally are so, so incredibly sexy?<<

    Women from self-confident ethno-states like Israel tend to reflect that confidence in their looks. Non-Israeli Jewish women don't show this.

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    A confident state would stand on its own. Israel projects paranoia, and is fully dependent on the U.S. and the West. Israel can't even deal confidently with the Palestinians!
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  • @WhiteWolf
    A bit like the collective punishment Palestinians get from the "Jewish state" or millions got from the Jewish Bolsheviks.

    I can imagine there being innocent Jews when you can imagine guilty ones.

    Proposing an equable dialogue: Posit ‘all’ Jews as ‘guilty.’ [Long but not sorry.]

    1st, we need *agreed* definitions:

    [COED:] guilty
    adjective (guiltier, guiltiest)
    (often guilty of) culpable of a specified wrongdoing. justly chargeable with a particular fault or error.
    having or showing a feeling of guilt: a guilty conscience.

    Here, ‘all’ may not be 100% but one or more of these:

    1. the simplest, ‘democratic’ majority = 50% + 1 votes

    2. a more general majority = 1 std. dev. = 68.27%

    3. ‘most’ = 2 std. dev. = 95.45%

    4. ‘practically all’ = 3 std. dev. = 99.73%

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    Those all need counting; not too practical for me to do, so my suggested alternative ‘all’ is ‘the effective faction,’ being that which gets things done, plus some ‘silent majority’ [however defined or counted], recalling that silence is acquiescence and some ‘active opposition’ of whatever size, but clearly ineffective.

    Now, a lemma: At any crime-scene, there are one or more perpetrators, possibly accessories, apologists and/or ‘idle’ bystanders. It is incumbent upon *all* witnesses to attempt to a) restrain malefactors and b) where possible, rescue victims from harm. *All* present and not in active resistance to the crime attract proportional guilt.

    Addendum: Any person profiting from crime also makes him/herself an accessory, like specifically here, all [non-native descended] residents in the ‘illegitimate entity,’ say.

    The worst crime here, is the illegal entity itself, referred to by some as ‘Israel,’ but more ‘properly,’ the parts of pre-Herzl Palestine squatted upon by the unwanted, invading-by-stealth, mainly European Jewish immigrants, as ‘supported and assisted’ by the British via Balfour, say, and British *miss*-management of their LN mandate. These invaders then attacked the natives, with the observed result; mass-murder, ethnic cleansing, improper alienation of the ELO/Os’ [= erstwhile legal owner/occupiers'] land.

    A 2ndary but still heinous crime here, is the infiltration of many so-called ‘Western’ countries and their governments by a filthy fifth-column, and the resulting *coerced* actions = corruption attributed to those interlopers.

    While on coercion, recall the charming term for j-dissidents: “Self-hating Jews.”

    The argument, facts; consider the I/J/Z-plex’s 9 steps to utter, criminal ignominy:

    1. Herzl 1897+; coveting, expropriation
    2. Balfour 1917; aid Zs, no consult Ps
    3. Jabotinsky 1923; colonise by force
    4. Ben-Gurion 1936-39: “we are the attackers and the Arabs … own the land”
    5. Meir 1947/48; raised $US50mio for arms, one supposes mostly from Jews
    6. Aggression: When immigrants (=aliens) attack ELO/O natives, it’s *not* civil war but Nuremberg-class crime
    6a King David Hotel bombing
    6b Deir Yassin massacre plus all other such outrages
    7. Z-terrorism; right down to the ‘current moment,’ attacks on neighbours like the Gaza, alien invaders’ highest-tech weapons vs. besieged & blockaded, basically unarmed natives
    8. US-support incl. UNSC vetoes; also down to ‘current moment’
    9. Z-hasbarah = mostly lies, designed and deployed to deceive

    The argument, international law:

    1. 1946 Nuremberg, supreme international crime … accumulated evil

    2. 1947 UNGA181, partition: “an area … shall be evacuated” [invalid + no UNSC action = not law] – but see 273

    3. 1948 UNGA194, right of return [for the ethnically cleansed]

    4. 1949 UNGA273, admit to membership, precondition 181, 194 [dishonoured]

    5. 1967 UNSC242, inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war

    The argument, UDHR *inalienable rights*:

    Article 3.
    •Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 17.
    •(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    •(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property

    The argument, morals (decalogue):

    1. Thou shalt not kill

    2. Thou shalt not steal

    3. Thou shalt not bear false witness [= lie]

    4. Thou shalt not covet

    The argument, morals (kindergarten):

    5. Do not hit!

    6. Don’t touch things not yours!

    Finally, the argument, Palestinian land:

    Land is alienable.

    [COED:] alienable
    adjective Law able to be transferred to new ownership.

    But: This means by free and fair contract, wherein the buyer makes a *fair* offer [aka not 'do as we say or die!'] and the seller may *freely* agree.

    IOW: A fair exchange is no robbery; no sale = no ownership.

    Summary:

    The only serious ‘offers to buy’ were made between Herzl’s 1897+ coveting and the aggressive alien interloper attacks starting 1947/48, offers which were mostly rebuffed, and resulted in Jews acquiring only ~6% of Palestine, that mostly of marginal quality, for over-high prices and from absentee landlords. As long as the ELO/Os [heirs & successors] don’t agree to sell [mad if they ever did!] – the land remains theirs = Palestinian, see Ben-Gurion above.

    Just as the UN had no right to ‘give’ [assign, whatever] any part of Palestine to any 3rd party, nor had the UN any right to ‘recognise’ any squatter on improperly alienated land as a ‘nation,’ hence Israel remains an “illegal entity.” As shown and worse, it is also a “supreme international crime” scene, and the responsibility for that lies with *all* Jews, as a) they claim ‘God-promised Jewish home,’ b) they claim to be democratic [only democracy in the ME!] and c) they ‘did the crime, must do the time,’ since d) they do not effectively oppose the crime. Jews *could* withdraw all support and b) the non-native residents [heirs & successors] could *exit*, as in RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation.

    Lastly, further responsibility and accessories: Jews are not alone in supporting the ‘illegitimate entity,’ what of the govts. of most countries *inaction* on bringing justice to the hapless Palestinians? Recall again that silence is acquiescence. Just as Mme May has corruptly gathered ‘Western’ support for her risible accusations against Russia and alleged nerve agents, so most countries, people as well as govts., could legitimately rally around condemnation and a 100% BDS of Israel. rgds

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  • @Doug
    > Unfortunately, all the intellectual and political movements Jews have forced on the rest of the world for the last 250 years have been detrimental to mankind.

    Yep, the world is definitely way worse than it was 250 years ago. Who wouldn't want to be a peasant born in 1760!

    Yeah your right Doug, we would all be living in caves if it weren’t for your peoples contributions. How can we ever thank you?

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  • anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rogue
    It is impossible to discard the Torah or Tanakh (Old Testament) if one is a Christian.

    I do, by contrast, reject the Talmud - not that I've ever read it.

    The OT is best understood as a model for what was to come: namely a people chosen by God whose law would be written in their hearts, and not on tablets of stone.

    Or to put it another way, the New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed, whilst the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed.

    The NT also makes it clear that the true chosen are followers of Christ, whether they be Jew, Gentile, Male, Female, rich or poor etc.

    The "chosen" model of the OT was just that: a model of what was to come.

    Jews are, therefore, no longer the chosen people simply because they're Jewish. And whilst the NT does say many positive things about the Jews and God's plans for them, Zionist Christians are quite mistaken in insisting on referring to the Jews as the chosen people, when the NT doesn't say so, but specifically does say that followers of Christ are.

    I'll grant there's a fair bit in the OT that's difficult to come to terms with, but I choose to do so out of faith. Jesus and the early church clearly believed in the OT - indeed, they had no other scripture or sacred texts at the time.

    LOL! Your entire pagan polytheist “faith” rests on deceit & batshit craziness of staggering proportions.

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/db0_onegod.htm

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/m01_religion.htm

    https://www.nobeliefs.com/communion/communion.htm

    But then, knowing your kind of racist degenerates, a curse such as this couldn’t have happened to “nicer” people. ;)

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  • @FKA Max

    No one ever claimed that Jews make up 25% of students at all top universities, but at some, especially the important ones that the American elite is recruited from (Ivy League)
     
    Currently, 30% of Supreme Court justices have a Jewish background. Had Merrick Garland been chosen as the next justice instead of Neil Gorsuch, 44% of the court would have come from a Jewish background.

    Weiss goes on to take the standard line that Jews have achieved so much because of their bookish culture. But if there’s anything that stands out about Kagan, it’s how utterly ordinary she is in terms of scholarly accomplishment or anything else that would qualify her for the court–very few publications, no experience as a judge, little courtroom experience — the Harriet Miers of the Obama administration. - http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/05/10/kevin-macdonald-elena-kagan-gets-the-nomination/

    Has the Supreme Court Become Too Powerful?

    The practice of judicial fiat is so commonplace we seldom realize how radical it is. We are, quite simply, losing our sovereign power to govern ourselves. We have allowed the courts -- the Supreme Court, in particular -- to become too powerful. - https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/has-the-supreme-court-become-too-powerful

    The Hillel numbers seem to correlate well with the makeup of the SCOTUS, Harvard (30%) and Yale (22.6%).

    With Neil Gorsuch, 6 of 9 Supreme Court justices will have gone to Harvard

    Indeed, if confirmed, Gorsuch would return the Court to its Scalia-era 6-3 majority of Harvard Law alums, and a 5-4 majority of Harvard Law graduates (Ruth Bader Ginsburg transferred from Harvard and graduated from Columbia Law). In case you were worried about the three-person minority that didn’t go to Harvard, fear not: All three went to Yale Law.
    [...]
    But there’s also a real argument to be made that this is a dangerous kind of homogeneity. Harvard and Yale have very similar academic cultures, with very similar types of professors, very similar student bodies, and very similar intellectual milieus. It stands to reason that they’ll produce nominees who, whatever their disagreements, think and write and reason in very similar ways. They tend to take similar jobs after graduation, as law professors or political aides or at prestigious private practice firms. Sonia Sotomayor and Samuel Alito stand out as exceptions, as they’re both former prosecutors; there are no criminal defense lawyers on the Court.

    And the cycle is self-perpetuating. The Harvard and Yale-educated justices select clerks from the clerk pool of mostly Harvard and Yale-educated “feeder” circuit court judges, who tend to overwhelmingly pick clerks who went to those schools too. Then those ex-clerks get prestigious partnerships at respected firms, or professorships at good law schools, or jobs in the Department of Justice and White House, which groom them in turn for appointment to the Court decades later.
     
    - https://www.vox.com/2017/1/31/14463656/neil-gorsuch-harvard-yale-law-school

    The Supreme Court Is Too Powerful

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVHoxz0wlPw

    Thom Hartmann discusses his thoughts on how the U.S Supreme Court has made itself much more powerful than the Founders ever intended.

    I replied to Jonathan Anomaly on this topic, yesterday:

    And of course, it is a necessary consequence of the great over-representation of Jews in our trade that all other ethnic groups are under-represented. Because a group that is only 2% of the population occupies something like 25% or more of the top law partnerships, that means that white protestants are under-represented by close to 25% as against their share of the population, and white Catholics (such as yours truly) are under-represented by even more [This is not true for the SCOTUS, however, before Neil Gorsuch's nomination 6 justices were Catholic and 3 were Jewish, none were Protestant, in a historically, majority Protestant nation] - http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-and-regressive-left-have-in-common/#comment-2259344

    So about 26% or roughly 1 in 4 non-Hispanic white males in D.C. is a lawyer!, if my calculations are correct. - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/boost-your-iq/#comment-2083046

    This is another amazing figure. Close to 8% (!) of the people living and working in the District of Columbia are lawyers, when lawyers only make up about ~0.40% of the U.S. population

    https://www.lawyersofdistinction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Screen-Shot-2015-10-27-at-9.45.51-AM-977x1024.jpg

    Source: http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2082825 Archived link: http://archive.is/0Lmwy

    In the USA judges can judge if a law is consistent with the constitution etc.
    Thus the USA high court is in fact the highest political organ.
    In the Netherlands our high court cannot judge if a law is consistent with our constitution.
    Thus our politicians are the highest political power.

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  • @fakepsychology
    Think of it this way: Two guys one with a billion bucks in the bank= call him Wealthy
    the other can't pay the light bill. call him Poor..
    W is born in a big house on the hill
    W goes to kindergarden graduates at 4 to private primary school, @9 to Jr High and at 16 high school
    gets scholarship to big name college, graduates and gets job suckering bankers
    P lives in the back seat of a car with his mom..
    sets foot in public primary school at 7, moves from town to town, and attends different schools until
    finally graduating at 19 from High School gets turned down at the free colleges and has no money to
    attend daddy paid for it schools.

    W goes on to be president age 40, is on third wife and has 4 kids
    P goes on to be a brick mason age 40; has one wife and three kids

    Which do you think will be in charge? The issue is not IQ, its access.. privilege and exposure to experience.
    All learning is derived from Experience.

    The best prime minister we ever had was Willem Drees.
    Do not know much about his education, nothing about his parents, however, his career began as a stenographer in our parliament.

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  • @AaronB
    You forgot to mention Derbyshire and Karlin who spread the meme that it's largely a question of Jewish intelligence...

    You know, I haven't really been able to come up with a satisfactory explanation for their behavior. They're both "numbers" guys, so they know the math doesn't add...

    To be fair, Karlin in his "qunified jq" post sort of did acknowledge that, but it was oh so reluctant, and largely drowned in his larger message that it's just intelligence...

    Do you think it comes down just to the "everyone loves winners" philosophy, so it's emotionally hard for them to admit that "winning" may be due to temporary contingent factors and not enshrining some cosmic order of superiority?

    In the 19th century, you get the feeling these guys would be going on about how much smarter whites are than Asians...

    And in the 16th century, how much dumber Jews are compared to whites...

    It's like whoever happens to be "winning" at that particular moment in time must be worshipped..

    They have no feel for the flux of history nor for accidental and contingent factors or even "lateral" factors like cheating and the like..

    No, everything is simple, linear, clear, and you can read eternal truths in any particular historical moment...

    Maybe a slavish worship of "fact"?

    Whatever it is, it's clearly some kind of culturally conditioned mindset that affects a significant number of intelligent Europeans...

    Yes I forgot about Derbyshire, Karlin and Jordan Peterson. About motives of them and Murray, Lynn, Cochran and Sailer we can only speculate but I do not care any more. We know them by their fruits. Perhaps I was concerned about Karlin at some point because he was young and I thought that he could be salvaged and that Russia did not need the poison he was bringing there. But our culture produces soulless and shallow Karlins by tens of thousands every year so who care about one more or less lost soul.

    I would find interesting if I could get some information about where do the money comes from and how conscious of what they are doing are the sponsors or are they just another shell of useful idiots.

    I think that the triad of Ayn Rand, Libertarianism and IQism is one of the most vile enterprises ever designed to to trap and destroy the minds and souls of young generations.

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    Very interesting angle, that Derbyshire and Sailer and karlin etc are getting funding. It's so baffling otherwise that I'm prepared to consider it.

    But yes, Ayn Rand, libertarianism, IQ myth, etc - the final and most complete expression of "winner worship" and "fact worship" that Western culture has produced and perhaps "the" fatal handicap from which the West will not recover.

    As bad as Jewish culture is, Jews would never see the success of any European people as representing an inevitable cosmic hierarchy simply because, for the moment, it "won".

    It's almost as if Jews, when confronted by a situation, can put the situation into a larger dynamic context, whereas whites see each situation as a set of facts disconnected from any larger context and therefore complete and permanent.

    It's a radical loss of perspective, context, and vision - and is the obvious consequence of taking "reductive" thinking to an absurd extreme.

    Imagine if the Japanese, for instance, had reacted to European ascendancy with the mindset of a Derbyshire, Sailer, or Karlin - they would be our slaves.

    But the Japanese never took "reductive" thinking altogether too seriously. It was always a tool for them, never a God.

    The upshot is never trust a man who takes numbers too seriously - it leads to a drastic loss of perspective, an inability to place any given "fact" in a larger dynamic context, and prepares one mentally for slavery.
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  • @Druid
    Well said, they'd do Anything for a buck. The means don't matter, the ends is great approval in their shitty communities

    their shitty communities

    Speaking of shitty communities. The usual way soldiers go potty is to dig a trench or at least a hole in the ground.

    Palestinians returning home find Israeli troops defecated and left feces in their house …The Guardian-Aug 7, 2014
    A handful of plastic chairs had their seats ripped open, through which the occupying soldiers defecated, he said. Gaping holes had been blown in four ground-floor external walls, and there was damage from shelling to the top floor. There, in the living room, diagrams had been drawn on the walls, showing

    Why does Israeli Soldiers take a dump in the homes of Palestinians …
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?288954-Why…homes…Palestinians
    Aug 21, 2009 – Even though the houses had functioning toilets, soldiers had defecated in cardboard boxes and plastic bags and left them lying in rooms. … in seven separate incidents across Gaza in areas controlled by the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF), where there was no fighting and no Palestinian fighters were nearby.

    Shit Israeli soldiers did in Gaza – Mondoweiss
    mondoweiss.net/2015/05/shit-israeli-soldiers/
    May 6, 2015 – A clogged toilet that had not been flushed after a Palestinian home was used as a military post by Israeli soldiers during Operation Protective Edge, the Gaza Strip, ….At Mosab Dardona’s home in Jabal al-Rayes, northeast Gaza, Israeli soldiers who had taken up positions in civilian houses in the area left behind intricate drawings on the walls, some depicting soldiers urinating on toppled mosques, or devouring Palestinian villages. In the house next door, belonging to Ibrahim Dardona, soldiers left behind dozens of bags of feces in the bedrooms, despite the presence of a functioning toilet, and left crude sexual diagrams on the walls.

    Israeli, 19, Detained for Urinating on Memorial at Auschwitz

    brk
    14:32 23.03.2018
    4 4
    he pissed at night maybe not seeing/caring on what, this
    is how many Israelis do as they do not care at all, for an example the normal Israeli habitat of getting out of the car and pissing on the side of the road in the broad daylight; a cultural issue.

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  • @Tbbh
    Question for the supposed monitors/comment approvers?

    Is "I believe da jews are utilizing an evolutionary strategy, even the secular uninvolved jews, even with all their jew fam and friends dead."

    ...One bit more rational than "I believe the Germans have a capacity for violent warfare almost beyond all other European nations. Look at the World Wars, the wars with the French, not to mention sacking Rome..."

    If one is valid, as to putting disparate distantly relateds in a bucket, because you feel like it, THEY BOTH ARE.

    They are both the same sort of statements in that they are judging a race as a race as opposed to just individuals from different races. Each race does have distinct characteristics.

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  • @anon
    renfro:

    I didn't pay as much attention to the personality stuff. In the Defense of Dunkel et al., Israeli's personalities are very different from diaspora Jews' (anecdotally speaking).

    And, he didn't rank Jews higher in conscientiousness, but he did rank them higher in self-confidence (not surprising). Make of it what you will.

    Jews also have a reputation for being charming (and sometimes also psychopathic, which is probably related). A charming/(psycopathic) personality *is* effective. Aren't bosses stereotyped that way? (I also suspect it's a Middle Eastern thing.)

    Jews also have a reputation for being charming

    I have never heard that…..I think their fawning and pandering to people not their own kind for various reasons is mistaken for charm some times.
    The decent Jews I have known are soft spoken, reserved in manner and not given to trying to charm.

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  • @Tbbh
    [Your comments are much more likely to be published if they consist of something other than content-free insults and profanities.]

    Somebody got triggered.

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    So much whimpering. I have newer encountered.
    Can somebody to come up with solution how to eliminate Jewish power without actually harming Jews physically?
    Maybe Wally?

    said:
    “Can somebody to come up with solution how to eliminate Jewish power without actually harming Jews physically?
    Maybe Wally?”

    Glad to assist, that’s an easy one.

    The time has come to openly cast aside the utterly impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline.
    That fraud is what generally enables ‘Jew power’. It allows Jews unearned benefits, unearned status, unearned profits; all at the expense of others.
    Every debate & controversy with Jews ends up at the Auschwitz Potemkin Village.
    I know it, you know it, we all now it.

    Everyone, get off your knees.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  • @Yan Shen
    Well I hate to uh detract from what will surely become a fascinating thread on a highly important topic, but does either MacDonald or Cofnas have any thoughts on why Israeli women in particular or Jewish women more generally are so, so incredibly sexy? I mean Gal Gadot, Natalie Portman, Bar Refaeli, my goodness! How did that evolve and can we get some more of that to counterbalance any of the potential negative externalities of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy? More Wonder Women please!

    I mean gentile, white societies may very well be run into the ground in the coming decades thanks to the insidious effects of Judaism, but at the very least sexy Jewish chicks will temper the pain of the Jewpocalypse somewhat. It's kinda like how that Fred Reed fellow is constantly trying to inundate us with subliminal images of nubile Latina honies...

    Hi Luke.

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