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    The latest Steven Spielberg film, The Pentagon Papers, made me wonder about the historical significance of this glorious episode of whistleblowing and victorious struggle for freedom of the press. The leaking and publishing in 1971, by the New York Times then the Washington Post, of excerpts from this 7000-page classified report on the Vietnam War...
  • @Christinne
    Basically the answer is yes. Always look for the Jew/s behind the curtain. Far too many wars and other historical tragedies have Jews behind them. The same can be said about the Civil War. Fratricidal war. The problem was not slavery. Think again.

    Indeed the first modern state genocide of Christian Armenians in Ottoman Turkey at the turn of the century was planned by crpto dom Jews Enver and Talat Pasha. Theodore Herzl worked overtime to keep the ongoing genocide hush hush in exchange for the Palestinian lands for his Zionist contigency from the perpetrators. How ironic that the German genocide enablers of the Turks gleaned their ghastly lessons and applied them in the mass slaughter of the Jews 25 years later ( of course only the Jews were subject to genocide-oops). You would think a nation such as Israel would acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, but no…not only do they not recognize it, they use their powerful lobby to thwart efforts to recognize it in the United States. The whole thing is disgusting and hopeless… the sooner Christ comes back, the better.

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    I do not agree with that author :
    1) YHWH is not a tribal god exerting perpetual vengeance upon his chosen people in exchange for the right to do the same to outsiders. YHWH is mot clearly for whom studies real Hebrew and Semitic phonetics the very sound of free breath. Ya : breathing in. aH : holding in We : breathing out eH : holding out. It means breath energy you never try to control but abandon yourself to. That is the whole story about Yahwism. In other words it is an oriental kind of spirituality but with no frills at all as are to be found in Hinduism.
    2) There are Jews who interpret their thing as a justification for psychopathology but once more it has nothing to do with a tribal god, it is witchcraft pure and simple and the tribe they refer to is composed of all practitioners of black magic. Just read Aleister Crowley, the guy never claimed to be a Jew but he could move at all his ease with the Jewish oligarchy. This group of all brothers of the Dark now loves to present themselves as Jewish only because it impresses and enables to manipulate very easily Western audiences still marked in their subconscious by former Christian reflexes, but once the Great Apostasy is consummated, it will no longer claim of Judaism but most probably, according to Albert Pike, of Vedic Brahmanism.
    3) JFK was a oligarchical scoundrel like all others : there never was any chance that any idealist be nominated for such a function at any point in American history since Benjamin Franklin, the worst of all. He never disobeyed any organ of the deep state, the guy was in total admiration before all mafias and anything that looked or worked like a mafia. He obeyed so well he had to be immortalized into a false tragic hero before his Nero-like murderous character threatened to seep out. His assassination was devised by LBJ, Hoover and Dulles before his election, as he was the first 100% jewish media made president. Whenever the general public remembers somebody as a good guy thanks to MSM he is never good. Had he shown the slightest whiff of dissidence he would have been dishonoured first, like Nixon, forgotten like Wallace, and then only killed like Malcom X or Qaddhafi. Israel played no role in JFK's assassination as the main Zionist institutions of America were 200% satisfied of him (JFK surprised them a great deal as he decided that the Western public had to be told the tale of the manned moon landing so as to make everybody lose grip on reality and make them satisfied with more and more virtual goods and pay).
    4) Exactly the same thing for MLK, a beast immortalized into a saint by the same team and assassinated by the very same panel as JFK (LBJ, Hoover, Dulles). Benjamin Franklin, as a combination of rabid Jewish supremacist and Calvinism together with occultism, wanted a future American history devoid of the slightest move of chivalrous heroism except moved by greed and avarice, and he succeeded.

    I agree with much what you write, but for some small differences:
    1) Tetragrammaton is traditionally (tradition=kabbalah) interpreted as Yod=male aspect of God, He=female aspect of God, so the second He is another female and usually understood as the sister of the lower god, Adam Kadmon, born as the Messiah. Waw actually does not fit that well, but they never were exactly logical. Tetragrammaton is understood on the basis of Sephirot, so there are two Gods, the single (no eyelid) eyed Macroprosopus and Microprosopus, who has two red eyes, eyelids and nostrils, from which comes the smoke of hatred. That is why is is necessary to sacrifice to calm down Microprosopus, and drink blood as Idra Zuta says in the end. This interpretation was not created in the Middle Ages, it goes down to at least 2nd Century AD Judaism, since is is attested in Jewish Christian Gnosticism around that time.
    2) You mean Freemasonry in the wider sense, that includes Rosicrucian, O.T.O., Martinism, Theosophy and all these esoteric doctrines from Europe. You are correct. That is just what it is, black magic, but politically it meant Tikkun, which meant destruction of all Christian kings (Edom) and restoration of Israel. Originally it is Christian Zionism coupled with occultism, that mostly derives from Kabbalah Denuta (translations of some cabbalistic texts). They were mostly not Jews, but considered themselves as Jews in the occult sense.
    3) Israel was not pleased with JFK trying to stop the nuclear weapon program. Why JFK was made an idol by Americans the rest of the world never understood, but there must have been some sense in it. Cuba made Che Guevara an idol the revolution. Maybe they thought that it is good to give the people an ideal, a martyr of the liberal cause. Jews voted for liberals. KKK was against liberals. It may have been good to say if JFK would have lived he would have done this (insert something destroying the society, like spend all this money on the moon landing, somebody gained a lot in contracts). I do not see that assassins necessarily would have smeared JFK, it would have made them the prime suspects. Better to praise the dead scoundrel. LBJ, Hoover, Dulles, no Israel, no Jews. LBJ was a Christian Zionist and pro-Israel, Hoover was a homo and maybe blackmailed for it, Dulles was so close to the banker’s club that he found Maurice Joly’s book. These three surely were in the conspiracy, but I do not exclude the two later ones: who controls the media that did most of the cover-up?
    4) People are so happy to say that MLK was a rapist with a Jewish ghost writer, but I have a dream is understood by the listeners as idealism and creates idealism. Of course the New World is supposed to be run by egoistic greed. That is capitalism as opposed to the ancient regime with king and nobles.
    In everything else we agree. I also do not agree with the author of the article, but basically in the thesis that the Vietnam war was started so that Israel could have its wars in the Middle East. Piper advances a similar argument. I think the goal actually was to stop the spread of Communism as it was not any more controlled by the occult club.

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  • I do not agree with that author :
    1) YHWH is not a tribal god exerting perpetual vengeance upon his chosen people in exchange for the right to do the same to outsiders. YHWH is mot clearly for whom studies real Hebrew and Semitic phonetics the very sound of free breath. Ya : breathing in. aH : holding in We : breathing out eH : holding out. It means breath energy you never try to control but abandon yourself to. That is the whole story about Yahwism. In other words it is an oriental kind of spirituality but with no frills at all as are to be found in Hinduism.
    2) There are Jews who interpret their thing as a justification for psychopathology but once more it has nothing to do with a tribal god, it is witchcraft pure and simple and the tribe they refer to is composed of all practitioners of black magic. Just read Aleister Crowley, the guy never claimed to be a Jew but he could move at all his ease with the Jewish oligarchy. This group of all brothers of the Dark now loves to present themselves as Jewish only because it impresses and enables to manipulate very easily Western audiences still marked in their subconscious by former Christian reflexes, but once the Great Apostasy is consummated, it will no longer claim of Judaism but most probably, according to Albert Pike, of Vedic Brahmanism.
    3) JFK was a oligarchical scoundrel like all others : there never was any chance that any idealist be nominated for such a function at any point in American history since Benjamin Franklin, the worst of all. He never disobeyed any organ of the deep state, the guy was in total admiration before all mafias and anything that looked or worked like a mafia. He obeyed so well he had to be immortalized into a false tragic hero before his Nero-like murderous character threatened to seep out. His assassination was devised by LBJ, Hoover and Dulles before his election, as he was the first 100% jewish media made president. Whenever the general public remembers somebody as a good guy thanks to MSM he is never good. Had he shown the slightest whiff of dissidence he would have been dishonoured first, like Nixon, forgotten like Wallace, and then only killed like Malcom X or Qaddhafi. Israel played no role in JFK’s assassination as the main Zionist institutions of America were 200% satisfied of him (JFK surprised them a great deal as he decided that the Western public had to be told the tale of the manned moon landing so as to make everybody lose grip on reality and make them satisfied with more and more virtual goods and pay).
    4) Exactly the same thing for MLK, a beast immortalized into a saint by the same team and assassinated by the very same panel as JFK (LBJ, Hoover, Dulles). Benjamin Franklin, as a combination of rabid Jewish supremacist and Calvinism together with occultism, wanted a future American history devoid of the slightest move of chivalrous heroism except moved by greed and avarice, and he succeeded.

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    I agree with much what you write, but for some small differences:
    1) Tetragrammaton is traditionally (tradition=kabbalah) interpreted as Yod=male aspect of God, He=female aspect of God, so the second He is another female and usually understood as the sister of the lower god, Adam Kadmon, born as the Messiah. Waw actually does not fit that well, but they never were exactly logical. Tetragrammaton is understood on the basis of Sephirot, so there are two Gods, the single (no eyelid) eyed Macroprosopus and Microprosopus, who has two red eyes, eyelids and nostrils, from which comes the smoke of hatred. That is why is is necessary to sacrifice to calm down Microprosopus, and drink blood as Idra Zuta says in the end. This interpretation was not created in the Middle Ages, it goes down to at least 2nd Century AD Judaism, since is is attested in Jewish Christian Gnosticism around that time.
    2) You mean Freemasonry in the wider sense, that includes Rosicrucian, O.T.O., Martinism, Theosophy and all these esoteric doctrines from Europe. You are correct. That is just what it is, black magic, but politically it meant Tikkun, which meant destruction of all Christian kings (Edom) and restoration of Israel. Originally it is Christian Zionism coupled with occultism, that mostly derives from Kabbalah Denuta (translations of some cabbalistic texts). They were mostly not Jews, but considered themselves as Jews in the occult sense.
    3) Israel was not pleased with JFK trying to stop the nuclear weapon program. Why JFK was made an idol by Americans the rest of the world never understood, but there must have been some sense in it. Cuba made Che Guevara an idol the revolution. Maybe they thought that it is good to give the people an ideal, a martyr of the liberal cause. Jews voted for liberals. KKK was against liberals. It may have been good to say if JFK would have lived he would have done this (insert something destroying the society, like spend all this money on the moon landing, somebody gained a lot in contracts). I do not see that assassins necessarily would have smeared JFK, it would have made them the prime suspects. Better to praise the dead scoundrel. LBJ, Hoover, Dulles, no Israel, no Jews. LBJ was a Christian Zionist and pro-Israel, Hoover was a homo and maybe blackmailed for it, Dulles was so close to the banker's club that he found Maurice Joly's book. These three surely were in the conspiracy, but I do not exclude the two later ones: who controls the media that did most of the cover-up?
    4) People are so happy to say that MLK was a rapist with a Jewish ghost writer, but I have a dream is understood by the listeners as idealism and creates idealism. Of course the New World is supposed to be run by egoistic greed. That is capitalism as opposed to the ancient regime with king and nobles.
    In everything else we agree. I also do not agree with the author of the article, but basically in the thesis that the Vietnam war was started so that Israel could have its wars in the Middle East. Piper advances a similar argument. I think the goal actually was to stop the spread of Communism as it was not any more controlled by the occult club.
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  • j2 says:

    NoseyTheDuke, All but one of these may have the answer, somebody very high in the CIA, but not McCone, who seems to have been on the same side as Kennedy on important political issues. Piper’s ghost would answer Angleton. Some institutional part of the CIA has been connected to the conspiracy, and Angleton is a natural choice, so these do not add to Piper’s theory, but your one point is different:
    Who has the motive to continue to sow disinformation?
    This cannot be late Angleton. The most logical answer is that it may be the same forces which continue to sow disinformation on other issues in the media. But Piper’s thesis is still not proven, since these forces are domestic to the USA while Piper tried to implicate a foreign player. I would still like to see one strong argument that ties the foreign player to this conspiracy. One strong, not many weak. I would not be surprised if Piper’s thesis were wrong and these forces were always domestic to the USA, since much happened before 1948 and they cannot be explained by something that came to existence in 1948. I think the explanation should cover what happened after 1840 (Zvi Hirsch Kalischer: the time of redemption started 1840 and will last 100 years and if by that time restoration has not happened, it will happen but with much suffering, too accurate predictions are suspicious) up to now.

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  • Ask yourself this, who had the power to change the route at the last minute?
    Who had the power to pull the SS off and alongside the Lincoln at the last minute?
    Who had the power to cordon off the entire area behind the grassy knoll including flashing badges to ward off Dallas police?
    Who had the power to take control of the autopsy despite that contradicting Texas laws?
    Who had the power to cause all media to run with the lone gunman theory long before any genuine investigation took place?
    Who had the means to control the cover up of the limo evidence such as the windshield bullet hole and threaten witnesses?
    Who had the motive to eliminate various witnesses due to testimony contradicting official narratives?
    Who has the motive to continue to sow disinformation such as the more recent documentary that an accidental discharge from a following SS gun killed JFK? Likewise various alternative theories such as the driver turning and shooting (shellfish toxin) JFK?
    I’m sure other commenters can provide many other telling irregularities, so who could accomplish all of these with such wide ranging control?

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf

    Beefcake the Mighty, here you have my review of Piper’s book you proposed I might be interested in, it was interesting and I had not read it before, so many thanks yet another time

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/11/comments-on-michael-collins-pipers-book-the-final-judgment/

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  • @Mulegino1
    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, "Polish independence and sovereignty" were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of "Polish sovereignty and independence." But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler's terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as "Czechoslovakia", by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.

    Everyone ,who does not know must take heed of Anons brilliant truth on what and who ignited WW2 . That conflict ,” The Jews War of survival ” , put them fully in charge ….the defeat of the Axis ,was the looks of the Sun ( Gentile Foundation) , v Saturn ( Jews Progenerator) . The Jews got full reign of the Wests Finances after that. The nation – states no longer soverign ,but subject to the Jews rule . They detest Europe …It’s Polytheistic Foundations ,Classical Culture ; Athens / Rome v Jerusalem rivalry …” Thought v ” YAHWEH Commands . They pushed two world wars there : ” The best of the Goyim must be killed ” so says their Talmud . Hence they sicked the world British/ French Empires on Germany leading to ALL loosing to International Jewry post war . Adolf Hitler ,” I am a man of the Hellenes ” forever villified ,because to know how HE ,” as a lonely little man defeated them in Germany ” ,and truth about the reality of that conflict gives the Jews away .

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  • @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    No stretch at all my dear ….The Jews nasty tribal God Yahweh ( See Yahweh God Of The NWO ,You Tube ) , commands it’s ,his what’s ,’ Chosen People ” ; ” By deception thou shall do war “. The Jews ,secular ,” Liberal ” ” Conservative ” take all of this very seriously . Funny how the Jews ,masters of the lie ,and owners of Hollywood , pull the same false flags ,again ,and again , yet the public still falls for it ,again ,and again . From the Spainish American War , Lusitania set up , Red Line over Danzig ,Pearl Harbor ,Korean Gun Boats , Gulf Of Tonkin , through Jew worshipping Bush 2 s WMD we see it work ….” Oh no the poor Jews didn’t do it .” Well they aren’t ” Poor ” , and better watch out . They are setting up Syria with LIES about Putin / Assad with ” poision gas ” to begin WW3.

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  • @Anonymous
    Operation Mockingbird

    Operation Mockingbird began in 1950, organized by Allen Dulles and Cord Meyer.[1] The CIA spent today's equivalent of one billion dollars a year hiring journalists from Corporate Media including CBS, The New York Times, ABC, NBC, Newsweek, Associated Press and others, to promote their point of view. The original operation reportedly involved some 3,000 CIA operatives and hired over 400 journalists. [2]
     

    This ongoing CIA operation naturally raises problems with Wikipedia's policy of deeming commercially-controlled media as reliable, and even more serious problems for policy of using corporate media attention to determine "notability". Most seriously of all, if the CIA (or anyone else, such as the deep state) can control big media, then Wikipedia's policy will continue the censorship by default. This realisation underlies the rationale of Wikispooks.
     

    Mind‐Control Studies Had Origins in Trial of Mindszenty

    The C.I.A. leaders were certain the Communists had embarked on a campaign to control men’s minds and they were determined to find a defense, setting out in earnest the next year‐1950—with Project Bluebird, which evolved into Project Artichoke, then became MKULTRA — MK — DELTA. With each code name change, they broadened their sweep, until there remained virtually no avenue of human behavior control they were not exploring.

    AMERICAN CARDINAL CONDEMNS MINDSZENTY TRIAL

    [MORE]

    Source: http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017363

    Cardinal Mindszenty had acted on the assumption that the overthrow of the Hungarian Government, with the consequent “restoration of the Hungarian Catholic Monarchy of Hapsburg in its place, could be achieved with help from abroad…in case a new world war created such a situation,” to quote his own words.[5] “I regarded it (the outbreak of the third world war) as a basis,” said the Cardinal. … The Cardinal had been designated a key part in a “successful insurrection.” That is, he had been appointed jointly by Pius XII, the Hungarian insurrectionists and the CIA as “Premier” of Liberated Hungary.http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/austrians-vote-against-muslim-anschluss-get-called-nazis/#comment-2053935

    Avery Dulles Ordained 1956/6/18

    Avery Dulles ordained in New York by Archbishop Spellman, pictured with his father John Foster Dulles and Spellman (partial newsreel).http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017173

    Vietnam why did we go?

    Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Manhattan [...]

    With an immense collection of facts, photos, names and dates, Manhattan proves that the Vietnam War began as a religious conflict. He shows how America was manipulated into supporting Catholic oppression in Vietnam supposedly to fight communism.

    http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2016919

    VIETNAM—THE CROATIA OF ASIA

    The South Vietnamese and Croatian Catholic dictatorships, therefore, are the most striking examples of how the spirit of Catholicism can stultify the most diverse political systems and cultures with the bacillae of intolerance.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2020843

    The Vatican’s Holocaust Book Review Part 1

    The Vatican’s Holocaust Book Review Part 2

    After prolonged and painful assessment, Kennedy and his closest associates finally reached the conclusion that the only way to get rid of the Diem regime was to get rid of President Diem himself. There have been contradictory reports of how the ultimate decision was reached and by whom. Although books, and newspapers have described the step by step evolution, in the end it turned out to be a planned cold blooded assassination of Diem. [13]
    [...]
    Might it be possible and conceivable, that President Kennedy was assassinated [on] the orders of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic lobby as “revenge” for Diem’s assassination?

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    Ngo Dinh Diem 3 January 1901 – 2 November 1963

    John F. Kennedy
    May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963

    Video time-stamped to 1 min 23 sec:

    Cold War Mandarin: Ngo Dinh Diem and the origins of America’s war in Vietnam, 1950-1963

    Boston College Libraries
    Published on Mar 1, 2018

    Excerpt from transcript:

    01:23
    there’s the fact that he was a Catholic
    01:24
    and that meant an awful lot in the
    01:26
    United States the 1950s there was a
    01:28
    major religious revival that was
    01:30
    sweeping the United States Catholic
    01:32
    credentials looked just impeccable in
    01:34
    waging cold war may have noticed that
    01:36
    the most famous communist hunter of that
    01:38
    era Joseph McCarthy was himself a
    01:39
    Catholic one widespread Catholic support
    01:42
    the FBI which was the really the
    01:45
    domestic arm of the anti-communist
    01:47
    crusade recruited very heavily at
    01:49
    Catholic colleges like Fordham and Notre
    01:50
    Dame people like Cardinal Spellman John
    01:54
    F Kennedy Mike Mansfield all very
    01:55
    prominent Catholic [cold war] warriors

    New York Hails Vietnam’s President Diem (1957)

    Why Catholics thrive in the CIA

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/may-6th-2016/why-catholics-thrive-in-the-cia/

    Source: https://grrrgraphics.com/the-cia-unleashed/

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  • The Jews are extremely smart.

    Regarding the point about Noam Chomsky, does anyone know if Chomsky did these things (dialectical engineering of history, as it were) knowingly or was this just an historical accident?

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  • @Hibernian
    You have already posted that newspaper collage about a thousand times.

    I’ve actually heard the 6 million trope many, many thousands of times and in fact never even considered questioning it until laws started being enacted to imprison people for merely questioning it. I had always thought that revision is an essential part of why historians exist.

    The more one does look into the holocaust narrative the more one must conclude that, at the very least it has been exaggerated and, far worse, it has been used as a fig leaf to cover for present day crimes against humanity. Clearly, many of the “facts” are anything but facts and since I work on the principle that if I’m lied to once I will assume that everything that follows from that source is potentially and even probably a lie too.

    Even if the number were correct, which I’m quite sure it isn’t, why would that be of greater concern than for the 50 million plus other people who also suffered and died in WWII? Does your great concern for human rights extend to Palestinians too?

    Methinks the Hibernian doth protest too much.

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  • @anarchyst
    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of "posse comitatus" laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian "law enforcement".
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.

    There are exceptions to Posse Comitatus.

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  • @Anon
    April 11 2013 edition of a Long Island NY Jewish community newspaper the
    5 towns Jewish times has a long article claiming Lyndon Johnson was some kind of jew from a Jewish family who pretended to be Protestants.

    Maybe it’s just the trendy Jewish fad of claiming that all sorts of famous people like Christopher Columbus were really Jews. Read the article it’s on the internet.

    That Polish Pope I forget his name had an ethnic Jewish mother whose family became catholic.

    It’s not far fetched.

    “That Polish Pope I forget his name…”

    John Paul II aka St. John Paul the Great

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  • @Wally
    said:
    "A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. "

    Indeed, the fake 6M has been promoted since at least 1823:
    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF
    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    see the impossible 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    You have already posted that newspaper collage about a thousand times.

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    I've actually heard the 6 million trope many, many thousands of times and in fact never even considered questioning it until laws started being enacted to imprison people for merely questioning it. I had always thought that revision is an essential part of why historians exist.

    The more one does look into the holocaust narrative the more one must conclude that, at the very least it has been exaggerated and, far worse, it has been used as a fig leaf to cover for present day crimes against humanity. Clearly, many of the "facts" are anything but facts and since I work on the principle that if I'm lied to once I will assume that everything that follows from that source is potentially and even probably a lie too.

    Even if the number were correct, which I'm quite sure it isn't, why would that be of greater concern than for the 50 million plus other people who also suffered and died in WWII? Does your great concern for human rights extend to Palestinians too?

    Methinks the Hibernian doth protest too much.
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  • Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    I agree that things should be open to discussion and debate and if the true number is different, it should be disseminated to the public.

    To me, though, whether 6 million died or not is far less important an issue than whether we ‘get’ to publicly discuss such things.

    If it were acceptable for anyone and everyone to start publicly discussing such things in earnest, free from silencing gags such as losing your job or risking the safety of your family, it would open the door to discussing a great many other things. At lot hinges on how they were treated by the Nazis, it is their modern day ‘Trump’ card to squash any opposition or question. If that’s not sacred then questions like whether they are discriminatory against Christians, Gentiles, etc. could be publicly discussed. People may well start to wonder things like, how can it be that whites writ large are so bad for having net worths higher than NAMs, when the Chosen people have net worths even higher?

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  • @ANON
    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.

    Yawn.

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  • This Old testament craziness continues. There was a chemical attack by ZUS rebels. Syria and Russia will be “blamed” by OT crazy MSM.

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.

    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.

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  • @ANON
    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.

    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.

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    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.
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  • ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor's "Origins of the Second World War", David Hoggan's "The Forced War" and "The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War" by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR's roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing "German aggression."

    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.

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    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.
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  • @ANON
    Try finding a neuroscientist who can give you the extra IQ points to understand what the argument is. You completely missed the point that the appeasing Chamberlain - who was PM when the war started - was clearly not conspiring with the FDR administration to bring about war. That's just plain thick and gets you a fail mark.

    As to not declaring war on the Soviet Union what exactly is your argument? What was the prior agreement/guarantee that Britain and France entered into? Would declaring war on the Soviet Union have made it more likely that Germany would fail to occupy a large part of Poland?

    Wally, we all know you are the dim boy who's stiil trying to please his teacher parents despite being stuck at the back of the classroom full of younger kids but please learn that boring repetition of same old, same old with educated adults doesn't cut it.

    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, “Polish independence and sovereignty” were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of “Polish sovereignty and independence.” But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler’s terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as “Czechoslovakia”, by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.

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    Everyone ,who does not know must take heed of Anons brilliant truth on what and who ignited WW2 . That conflict ," The Jews War of survival " , put them fully in charge ....the defeat of the Axis ,was the looks of the Sun ( Gentile Foundation) , v Saturn ( Jews Progenerator) . The Jews got full reign of the Wests Finances after that. The nation - states no longer soverign ,but subject to the Jews rule . They detest Europe ...It's Polytheistic Foundations ,Classical Culture ; Athens / Rome v Jerusalem rivalry ..." Thought v " YAHWEH Commands . They pushed two world wars there : " The best of the Goyim must be killed " so says their Talmud . Hence they sicked the world British/ French Empires on Germany leading to ALL loosing to International Jewry post war . Adolf Hitler ," I am a man of the Hellenes " forever villified ,because to know how HE ," as a lonely little man defeated them in Germany " ,and truth about the reality of that conflict gives the Jews away .
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  • @ANON
    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?

    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor’s “Origins of the Second World War”, David Hoggan’s “The Forced War” and “The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War” by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR’s roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing “German aggression.”

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    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.
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  • @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    I asked an experienced foreign correspondent and TV producer whom I can rely on 100 per cent not to lie to me about Prouty and got the succinct answer “nutter”. Accordingly I asked for some links or sources from the busy person,and, in the absence of further correspondence went Googling. Obviously Prouty himself isn’t around to edit his Wikipedia entry but there are plenty of people who have an interest in supporting his reputation. He seems to have had a good safe and quite interesting WW2 career and a short career in the CIA where one suspects his nickname may have been “Walter Mitty”. He was in Antarctica in a fairly humble role over the days before and after JFK’s assassination which must have made him perfect for an Oliver Stone fantasy. He comes across as a chancer even if he wasn’t outright lying in his story of Alexander Butterfield being a CIA agent in the White House. Evidence value/ Credibility value: Zero? Or what do you say?

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  • @ANON
    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?

    Ah, I see Wally did it for Beefcake at about the right intellectual level…

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  • ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:

    Try finding a neuroscientist who can give you the extra IQ points to understand what the argument is. You completely missed the point that the appeasing Chamberlain – who was PM when the war started – was clearly not conspiring with the FDR administration to bring about war. That’s just plain thick and gets you a fail mark.

    As to not declaring war on the Soviet Union what exactly is your argument? What was the prior agreement/guarantee that Britain and France entered into? Would declaring war on the Soviet Union have made it more likely that Germany would fail to occupy a large part of Poland?

    Wally, we all know you are the dim boy who’s stiil trying to please his teacher parents despite being stuck at the back of the classroom full of younger kids but please learn that boring repetition of same old, same old with educated adults doesn’t cut it.

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    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, "Polish independence and sovereignty" were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of "Polish sovereignty and independence." But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler's terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as "Czechoslovakia", by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.
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  • @ANON
    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

    Actually Chamberlain made a fair & just deal for all involved. I doubt that you even know what you’re talking about.
    Recall the Britain & France declared war on Germany but not the USSR, who invaded Poland from the east.
    Try debating, if you think you know what you’re talking about:
    WWII Europe / Atlantic Theater Revisionist Forum

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=20

    Did Britain initiate both world wars?

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10458

    Responsibility for WW2

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544

    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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  • @Brabantian
    Terrific piece above connecting many dots, the material on Lyndon Johnson, on Charles de Gaulle, and on the spooky Daniel Ellsberg, the alleged 'leaker' who along with his friend Noam Chomsky and others became dodgy 'dissident celebrities', united in their shilling against JFK assassination investigation, all playing along with the 'lone gunman Oswald' hoax.

    There are at least 6 major fake 'leaks' / 'dissident heroes' all used similar techniques ... all of them CIA hoaxes and frauds ... all involving prominent Jewish or Israeli figures too

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg 'stolen' Pentagon Papers
    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat'
    2010 Julian Assange 'Wikileaks'
    2013 Edward Snowden 'stolen' NSA Papers
    2016 Panama Papers
    2017 Paradise Papers

    All involve CIA-backed fake 'leakers - dissidents' with 'limited hang-out' partial truth, in order to sell even bigger lies:

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg NY Times Pentagon Papers 'stolen documents leak' ... (1) Ellsberg promoted hoax of JFK assassination 'lone gunman, not CIA' (2) Distracted from US Vietnam war crimes outside of 'limited hang-out' My Lai, focusing on Jewish 'leaker hero', not on brutalised Vietnamese (3) Set up meme of 'brave, trusted' CIA media (4) Distracted from Israeli wars and occupation of Palestine

    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat' fictional leaker ... (1) Set up 'Silent Coup' of Richard Nixon by US military Joint Chiefs & CIA (2) Pumped CIA 'brave media' story for Jewish WashPost 'reporter' Bob Woodward, who was a Navy Intel agent working for Admiral Maurer heading Joint Chiefs & running US coup d'état (3) Deepend fake 'brave media' meme for CIA journalists to rat-trap real dissidents, identify & destroy them

    2010 Julian Assange Wikileaks ... (1) Leaks 'selected' & shielded Israel, with Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & US-CIA's Zbigniew Brzezinski both publicly admitting Assange is an intel hoax (2) Anti-9-11 truth (3) Sold intimidating 'USA torture war crimes' story USA enjoys spreading (4) 'Rat trap' for dissidents who could be killed after trusting 'Wikileaks' (5) Apparently not 'living in London Ecuador Embassy' at all, only there for photos, meetings (6) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies (7) People dead & jailed-arrested after contacting Assange & Snowden gangs, dead: Seth Rich, Peter W Smith.jailed-arrested: Reality Leigh Winner, Terry James Albury (8) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear

    2013 'Edward Snowden' and his 'leaked stolen documents' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee and Jewish ex-gay-p-rnographer Glenn Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake by all major gov intel agencies (6) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear (7) FBI agent Terry James Albury the most recent casualty after allegedly 'leaking' to Greenwald - Intercept, one more jailed or dead duped by the Assange-Snowden hoaxers

    2016 Panama Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists' (2) Shielding prominent Israeli & US & Nato political figures (3) Focus on targets of hostility for US & related oligarchy (4) ICIJ 'International Consortium of Investigative Journalists' co-managed by the official Mossad historian Yossi Melman (!), and Israeli military journo Uri Blau, hence another CIA-Mossad 'rat trip' to identify & then harass, even silence & kill, real whistle-blowers & dissidents (5) Quickly recognised as a political psy-op, another CIA 'leaker - dissident' fraud

    2017 Paradise Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists', same Israeli-Mossad crew as 'Panama Papers' above, serving same oligarch interests, warning the world's rich who do not get into line with CIA and Mossad

    Brabantian, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite writers/educators…one resource leads one to another and another and so on, I am learning. Lately, almost every new resource I come upon I am finding your commentary & this is giving me a sense of relief I am in the right place…I read your commentary here before seeing your name & was pleasantly surprised to see your name, though I guess not insanely surprised.
    It’s been so all-encompassing to take in so much information & it’s been a lengthy process of weeding out the trash from the treasure. I feel like I’ve finally arrived at a point where I am reading good information – seeing that you are here gives me a sense of security I’m not wasting my time. Learning a lot from you & it’s allowing me to make notes & delve off into other areas in which to do more research. I have to continue to keep in mind to not get too wrapped up in reading too many comments. I am always put off when too much back & forth arguing/bickering comes up. Because I know that I am no scholar on these subjects, I can get thrown off track & get confused as to what truths I am looking to glean from whatever article I am reading & will readily admit I need to do some sharpening of my critical thinking skills.
    I guess I need to develop thicker skin because I shouldn’t allow myself to be thrown off track by others emotions and opinions, to which they are of course entitled AND a first amendment that gives them the right to express this – well, mostly, for now at least. I just get a little down & out & disheartened to see the whole divide and conquer thing alive & well & materialized in the comment sections after having taken in some really great reading, such as this article here by Laurent G. I downloaded this as it has so much information in it that is just as relevant today as it was 50+ years ago, sadly enough.

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Comic book history.

    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters’ links, citations and footnotes?

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    Ah, I see Wally did it for Beefcake at about the right intellectual level...
    , @Mulegino1
    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor's "Origins of the Second World War", David Hoggan's "The Forced War" and "The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War" by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR's roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing "German aggression."

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  • @Hu Mi Yu

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.
     
    He didn't do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.
     
    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn't really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.
     
    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
     
    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner's strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin's replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike's treatment of German POWs.

    I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president

    I did a web search, and Joe Bonono returns articles about Joe Bonanno. This is not the same person. Joe Bonanno was from southern Italy, but Joe Bonono was from northern Italy. He was a deep state ringer for the other Joe. In published photos of Bonono the right side of his face is obscured, because he had a mole or blemish there that would have blown his cover.

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  • @ANON
    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll's taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor's harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?

    I found it amusing that whenever CCTV 9 the English language in China shows the perfidy of the Japanese, they have only newsreels showing Chiang Kai Shek’s Nationalists battling it out with the Japanese. Where were the Chicoms, the Long March people? Hiding away in the mountains, waiting for the imperialists to duke it out as per Stalin’s advice.

    The Chicoms would have more credibility with their blather about Japanese atrociousness, had they not accepted Japanese investments from the time of Deng Tsiao Ping onwards. But having taken the investments, they blackmail the Japanese at their pleasure. And as you say where is the reckoning for the multi-million dead as a result of Communism?

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    How can be highly intelligent people so confused concerning the basics.
    At the time of Vietnam war, the center of Zionist globalism was in Soviet Union.
    It was not called Zionist globalism.
    It was called Communist internationalism.
    There was Zionism in US but the only cause supported by them was protection of state of Israel, and that quite understandable.
    Today is center of Zionist globalism is in US.
    There should be no objection to Zionists to support Israel.
    The objection should be directed against Zionist globalism That is committing war crimes against nations of the world.
    In Vietnam war communist were the aggressors.
    In Vietnam war US was defender of freedoms over the aggression of Communists.
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    Not anymore the US is defender of freedoms.

    They may be intelligent, even highly intelligent, but they have their own axes to grind.

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  • A better question is. Was the last hundred years a a holocaust for zion?

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  • @ANON
    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

    Comic book history.

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    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?
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  • @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    Interesting but it leads me to a rather different question. When Allen Dulles was in charge it was a much smaller simpler world even in the great swamp that had been responsible for noxious vapours for 150 years – certainly tainting Langly, VA. Since then there has been a huge turnover of CIA directors who, even if they were pure 35 year, but fasttrack, career men, would have had little chance to be up with all the details of every major risky operation including the reasoning behind it and the planning. (We know – OK 95% – for example that a CIA report from Germany casting grave doubt on the Iraqi witness to chemical WMDs that Colin Powell’s UN speech relied on didn’t reach George Tenet or others briefing Powell). So…. when we think the CIA has been party to some monstrosity such as 9/11 how do we see the nuts and bolts being put together in an orderly and very secret fashion? Which Directors of the CIA would you have trusted to plan and pull off a 9/11? And if you understandably answer “none” then can someone describe and name the inner executive team that someone even higher up can have relied on?

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  • ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.

    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators’ conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was “brought about” by ” Great Britain and the FDR administration” for “economic and financial [or any other] reasons” is just so clueless that you can’t be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK…. just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

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    Comic book history.
    , @Wally
    Actually Chamberlain made a fair & just deal for all involved. I doubt that you even know what you're talking about.
    Recall the Britain & France declared war on Germany but not the USSR, who invaded Poland from the east.
    Try debating, if you think you know what you're talking about:
    WWII Europe / Atlantic Theater Revisionist Forum
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=20

    Did Britain initiate both world wars?
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10458

    Responsibility for WW2
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544

    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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  • ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong
    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll’s taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor’s harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?

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    I found it amusing that whenever CCTV 9 the English language in China shows the perfidy of the Japanese, they have only newsreels showing Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalists battling it out with the Japanese. Where were the Chicoms, the Long March people? Hiding away in the mountains, waiting for the imperialists to duke it out as per Stalin's advice.

    The Chicoms would have more credibility with their blather about Japanese atrociousness, had they not accepted Japanese investments from the time of Deng Tsiao Ping onwards. But having taken the investments, they blackmail the Japanese at their pleasure. And as you say where is the reckoning for the multi-million dead as a result of Communism?
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  • @Wally
    laughably said:
    "An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again."

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, "confessed" to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    www.codoh.com

    They weren’t tried at Nuremberg. Try again.

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  • @Joe Wong
    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

    Aren’t you the idiot who has claimed here that the Japanese killed 300K people at Nanking with samurai swords? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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  • @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    So you don’t believe millions of Jews were killed by the Germans? There is quite a lot of evidence. Three million were killed just in Poland.

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis
    An indictment isn't a finding of guilt. Try again.

    laughably said:
    “An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again.”

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, “confessed” to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    They weren’t tried at Nuremberg. Try again.
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  • @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the "transfer" of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp "deaths" total around 731,000--NOT "6 million". In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war...

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not "add up"...

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the "yellow Star of David" armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE "KANGAROO COURTS" THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you "holocaust ™" promoters--why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and "disease"--"holocaust ™ " "transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish "holocaust ™" survivors are infected with this "disease" and should also be considered "holocaust ™" survivors, eligible for "holocaust ™" reparations".

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews' declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a "gas chamber" chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these "camps".

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the "chimney" for the supposed "gas chamber" does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were "liberated" by the "allies", the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be "liberated" by the Russian "allies".

    I urge those "holocaust ™" believers to check these things out for yourselves--IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find...

    Good work.

    The problem is that some people “can’t handle the truth”. Look how long it took for witchcraft to fall from being “an established fact”.

    It amusing to see so many here tout awareness of the very real dangers, ongoing violence, hatred, and destruction of Zionists / Jew supremacists. Yet so may here are afraid to touch the source for the modern Jew’s destructive power, the fake and utterly impossible ’6,000,000′.

    Want to end the evils of Zionism / Jew supremacists?
    Speaking up about the scam aka: ‘holocau$t’ will do it.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

    http://www.codoh.com

    All Revisionists were once True Believers.

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  • @Wally
    Mathis said:
    "Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?"

    except that:

    The German 'guilt' for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet "investigative" commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: "We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders." (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn't until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as "proven" at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.
     
    www.codoh.com

    An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    laughably said:
    "An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again."

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, "confessed" to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    www.codoh.com

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  • @Wally
    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden's finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    www.codoh.com

    Maybe you can tell us all what trial Van Roden was involved in and why it is that the defendants in that trial might have suffered so badly at the hands of American military authorities.

    Any other reference to Nuremberg is irrelevant in a discussion of Van Roden, as I’ve already shown. I’ve already demonstrated your lie in this regard, so I won’t belabor the point.

    Btw, I can post links too.

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     

    Mathis said:
    “Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?”

    except that:

    The German ‘guilt’ for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet “investigative” commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: “We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders.” (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn’t until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as “proven” at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.

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    An indictment isn't a finding of guilt. Try again.
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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf

    Thanks, I’ll read it.

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     

    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden’s finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    [MORE]

    Alleged & laughable “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry’s Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    http://www.codoh.com

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    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
    Maybe you can tell us all what trial Van Roden was involved in and why it is that the defendants in that trial might have suffered so badly at the hands of American military authorities.

    Any other reference to Nuremberg is irrelevant in a discussion of Van Roden, as I've already shown. I've already demonstrated your lie in this regard, so I won't belabor the point.

    Btw, I can post links too.
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  • The indisputable torture of Hoess is still relevant, whether he was a defense or prosecution witness. That torture was widely used by the Allied interrogators is not even a point of controversy, it is an indisputable fact which is not even seriously denied by the captors, jailers and prosecutors themselves. Robert Jackson himself stated that the tribunals were not bound to the rules of evidence and constituted a continuation of the war against Germany. They were show trials with two overarching purposes: the demonization of Germany and the deflection of the much greater and much more demonstrable Allied war crimes.

    The tribunals conducted under the “United Nations” were conducted with a predetermined outcome (guilty) already determined with respect to most defendants. Of course, for the appearance of propriety, a few of the defendants with international connections (such as Schacht and Von Papen) would be acquitted. Admiral Doenitz most likely escaped the fate of Jodl and Keitel only because of the objections of Admiral King and other flag rank Allied naval officers. Albert Speer was spared the death penalty because he was the “model defendant.” I have no idea why Rudolf Hess was kept in prison for life, and later murdered by his captors when an old man of 94. What exactly was Julius Streicher guilty of? Producing offensive cartoons? He was certainly correct when he characterized the hangings as a Purim celebration.

    Nuremberg represented the attempt by the Allies to wrap themselves in the mantle of righteousness so that the world would overlook their own horrendous atrocities and war crimes, including the first use of atomic weaponry against civilian targets. Now this mantle has been ripped off of them and it reveals that the so called “Good War” is simply the “Big Lie.”

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  • @Mulegino1
    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from “Wally,” who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don’t usually lie, particularly when it’s been pointed out to them that the information they’re posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here’s something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness — in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How’s that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?

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    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden's finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    www.codoh.com
    , @Wally
    Mathis said:
    "Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?"

    except that:

    The German 'guilt' for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet "investigative" commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: "We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders." (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn't until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as "proven" at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.
     
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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.

    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.

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    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

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  • @j2
    the article has many good points. I wrote my response here:
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/05/jfk-lbj-lansky-dulles-and-zionists/
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    Thanks, I'll read it.
    , @j2
    Beefcake the Mighty, here you have my review of Piper's book you proposed I might be interested in, it was interesting and I had not read it before, so many thanks yet another time
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/11/comments-on-michael-collins-pipers-book-the-final-judgment/
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  • the article has many good points. I wrote my response here:

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/05/jfk-lbj-lansky-dulles-and-zionists/

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    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf
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  • Ellsberg was probably a CIA asset, and all the Pentagon Papers did was to deflect blame for the war onto the DoD.

    http://mileswmathis.com/watergate.pdf

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  • @Mulegino1
    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.

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    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.
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  • @anarchyst
    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself "next in line" for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.

    Mark Felt, the insider who betrayed Nixon (“Deep Throat”) and who was pivotal in sabotaging the Nixon Presidency, was Jewish.

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  • Awesome reading! Learning something new every day now. Certainly more than I ever learned in public schools.. Sad!
    Something seriously need to be done about their control over our media and education here in America, imagine how much suffering and death could have been avoided if folks were not fed a constant stream of lies & BS..
    We’re still suffering from these lies, all these years later, so many still believe the lies.
    I do think things are changing fast though, people are waking up in massive numbers every day, not good for the bad guys.
    All of us have to do our part and help spread the truth, talk to everyone around you, don’t be afraid of being called names, better than being DEAD!

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  • @Andrew E. Mathis
    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

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    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.
    , @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     
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  • Sir,

    I am directed by the Ministry to send you the following circular letter:

    It is often the duty of the good citizens and of the pious Christians to turn a blind eye on the peculiarities of those associated with us.

    But the time comes when such peculiarities, while still denied in public, must be taken into account when action by us is called for.

    We know the methods of rule employed by the Bolshevik dictator in Russia itself from, for example, the writing and speeches of the Prime Minister himself during the last twenty years. We know how the Red Army behaved in Poland in 1920 and in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Galicia and Bessarabia only recently.

    We must, therefore, take into account how the Red Army will certainly behave when it overruns Central Europe. Unless precautions are taken, the obviously inevitable horrors which will result will throw an undue strain on public opinion in this country.

    We cannot reform the Bolsheviks but we can do our best to save them — and ourselves — from the consequences of their acts. The disclosures of the past quarter of a century will render mere denials unconvincing. The only alternative to denial is to distract public attention from the whole subject.

    Experience has shown that the best distraction is atrocity propaganda directed against the enemy. Unfortunately the public is no longer so susceptible as in the days of the “Corpse Factory,” and the “Mutilated Belgian Babies,” and the “Crucified Canadians.”

    Your cooperation is therefore earnestly sought to distract public attention from the doings of the Red Army by your wholehearted support of various charges against the Germans and Japanese which have been and will be put into circulation by the Ministry.

    Your expression of belief in such may convince others.

    I am, Sir, Your obedient servant,

    (signed) H. HEWET, ASSISTANT SECRETARY

    This letter is reproduced in a 1958 book entitled:

    Allied Wartime Diplomacy: A Pattern in Poland by Edward J. Rozek,

    Whether the above letter is genuine or not (and there is no reason to think it is not) it certainly reflects real truths of history, except insofar as it seems to emphasize Soviet atrocities, and ignore the horrendous real “holocausts” perpetrated upon the people of Western and Central Europe and Japan, particularly by the Anglo-American air forces. Most atrocity propaganda is simple deflection, and in the case of the Allies (versus the Axis) that of far worse crimes of much greater magnitude.

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  • @gepay
    Oswald was intended to be killed in the movie theater. He stated he was just a patsy. He couldn't go to trial. Jacob Rubinstein was needed to kill Oswald. Yes he did have mafia ties but then again there are people like Meyer Lansky who had power. Ruby did regularly attend a synagogue. Yes indeed, Angleton and Dulles were involved. Yes indeed were Angleton and Mossad connected. yes indeed did Mossad have connections to international organized crime ( a cutout for the hitmen procurement) stemming from the days of procuring illegal arms for Israel (still needed before LBJ). Yes indeed did JFK have a problem with Israel getting the bomb. Yes indeed did Johnston favor the state of Israel. Yes indeed did Israel have a relatively easy time getting the bomb after JFK's death.
    but I do think it is a stretch that Israel decided that it was to be Vietnam rather than Cuba. Vietnam and Korea were decided on as WW2 ended. As Fletcher Prouty stated, after WW2 the equipment for the 500.000 man army group not needed to invade Japan was taken to Korea and Vietnam. Anecdotally, in my rural area an ex Navy intelligence non com bought the little country store. He told me he helped unload it. My own research made me think the Vietnam War was a bad idea. The US didn't sign the Geneva Accord that ended French colonialism in Vietnam. I agree that the draft was the main reason there was such a forceful anti-war movement. I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force. Israel and many Jews do have influence and power grossly outstripping their small population .It is indeed an Anglo Zionist power group controlling the US. With the Jewish people we might know just ordinary manipulated people as much as you and me.

    ” I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force.”

    Agreed. But the engineered LSD explosion also had an occult purpose behind it. There was broad experimentation done on hallucinogens throughout the 1950s and 1960s by the CIA and Pentagon. A lot of it was centered on mind control, but there was also an effort to define and enhance human psychic ability. Charles Manson and his peers were guinea pigs.

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  • @anarchyst
    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    - “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.

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    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
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  • @Anon

    The Watergate scandal passes today as evidence of the independence of the American media as a necessary counter-power against government abuses. But in reality, it simply illustrates the increasing involvement of the media in deep political warfare.
     


    Likewise we must go beyond the public and Spielbergian narratives on the Pentagon Papers to understand what was really at stake. In both scandals, I believe the leadership of both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the two biggest propaganda machines in the US, were acting not only in the service of truth, but also in service of a power deeper than the deep state they were exposing.
     
    What the ample majority of people wants it exactly be shielded from the truth. Let alone the truth behind the truth that is exposed.

    The NYT WaPo do exactly what the author here says — and so do the Guardian, HuffPo, Atlantic, ...
    and every medium (th channel, radio station, e-magazine, newspaper, ...) that seeks to have a wide readership.

    Because the demand is high only for untruths — it has been like this since consciousness developed, and it will keep being like this despite any effort on the part of contrarians.

    There's nothing people are as hostile to as truth, in general, for opening oneself to it also opens the door to self-knowledge, and that's the prime fear.

    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself “next in line” for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.

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    Mark Felt, the insider who betrayed Nixon ("Deep Throat") and who was pivotal in sabotaging the Nixon Presidency, was Jewish.
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  • Anon[186] • Disclaimer says:

    The Watergate scandal passes today as evidence of the independence of the American media as a necessary counter-power against government abuses. But in reality, it simply illustrates the increasing involvement of the media in deep political warfare.

    Likewise we must go beyond the public and Spielbergian narratives on the Pentagon Papers to understand what was really at stake. In both scandals, I believe the leadership of both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the two biggest propaganda machines in the US, were acting not only in the service of truth, but also in service of a power deeper than the deep state they were exposing.

    What the ample majority of people wants it exactly be shielded from the truth. Let alone the truth behind the truth that is exposed.

    The NYT WaPo do exactly what the author here says — and so do the Guardian, HuffPo, Atlantic, …
    and every medium (th channel, radio station, e-magazine, newspaper, …) that seeks to have a wide readership.

    Because the demand is high only for untruths — it has been like this since consciousness developed, and it will keep being like this despite any effort on the part of contrarians.

    There’s nothing people are as hostile to as truth, in general, for opening oneself to it also opens the door to self-knowledge, and that’s the prime fear.

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    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself "next in line" for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.
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  • Killing the belligerent “leaders” and presstitutes with laughter:

    http://thesaker.is/a-curious-incident-part-vii/

    “In the beginning of March a man and his daughter were sitting on a park bench in Wiltshire when they were impaled by a unicorn. Theresa May claims the unicorn was Russian and was sent by “Bad Vlad.”
    Thirty eight years ago the U.S.S.R had a program that is rumoured to have bred unicorns but these were all destroyed when the U.S.S.R collapsed. Mr. Mirzayanov, who claims to be the government in exile of Tatar wrote a book which contains images of unicorns. Because of the passage of time all of the original unicorns are dead. The breeding stables were dismantled and shipped to the USA in the 1990s.
    When evidence of these unicorns was presented to the Technical Secretariat of the OPCW it was discounted as speculative. No one has seen the unicorn that impaled the man and his daughter in the middle of Salisbury. It is believed that the unicorn may have been hidden in the air vents of their car, or dropped from a drone. The British Foreign minister has categorically stated that unicorns exist because “I asked the guy and he said yes.” The Prime Minister has nudged the world closer to WWIII by leading a global demand for sanctions against “bad Vlad” and his unicorn attacks against the UK. …
    The fact that none of the three victims died, one is in stable condition, and two are in recovery, is strong evidence that no competent state actor was involved in the attack.
    The available evidence implicates Freedonia. The UK government should immediately attempt to determine the present whereabouts of Rufus T. Firefly, Chicolini and Pinky.”

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  • @ploni almoni
    You have had sixty years to figure out that you were being manipulated by the State. And you are still not up to speed? Better not watch the news.

    I not only do not watch and never have watched the “mainstream “news”, I WAS THERE and was able to see for myself–not through the eyes of communist sympathizing “reporters”.
    I notice that you have swallowed the Ken Burns “documentary” (lies) hook line and sinker…

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  • Zio Jews were most certainly behind the social unrest in the 1960s US.

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  • @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    You have had sixty years to figure out that you were being manipulated by the State. And you are still not up to speed? Better not watch the news.

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    I not only do not watch and never have watched the "mainstream "news", I WAS THERE and was able to see for myself--not through the eyes of communist sympathizing "reporters".
    I notice that you have swallowed the Ken Burns "documentary" (lies) hook line and sinker...
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  • @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    Who is “blaming Jews for VN”? That’s your straw man. You made it up He presented compelling evidence, which was not made up. Zionist hijacking of US government has been the bane of this country for decades, and still is the biggest problem.

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  • Quote from the article:

    “643,000 tons of bombs were dropped—three times more than during the entire Second World War”.

    American and British strategic bombers dropped more than 2,700,000 tons during WWII.

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  • @Joe Wong
    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    – Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    – U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    – “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    – The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    – “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

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    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.
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  • @Joe Wong
    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ ” “transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations”.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Good work.

    The problem is that some people "can't handle the truth". Look how long it took for witchcraft to fall from being "an established fact".

    It amusing to see so many here tout awareness of the very real dangers, ongoing violence, hatred, and destruction of Zionists / Jew supremacists. Yet so may here are afraid to touch the source for the modern Jew's destructive power, the fake and utterly impossible '6,000,000'.

    Want to end the evils of Zionism / Jew supremacists?
    Speaking up about the scam aka: 'holocau$t' will do it.

    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

    www.codoh.com

    All Revisionists were once True Believers.
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  • @James Forrestal
    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don't harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those "dwarf bandits," and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You're right-- they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more-- just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain "beasts" and "criminals," while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans....

    Interesting.

    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

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    Aren’t you the idiot who has claimed here that the Japanese killed 300K people at Nanking with samurai swords? Or am I thinking of someone else?
    , @ANON
    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll's taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor's harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?
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  • @Wally
    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

    www.codoh.com

    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, … , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

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    • Replies: @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the "transfer" of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp "deaths" total around 731,000--NOT "6 million". In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war...

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not "add up"...

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the "yellow Star of David" armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE "KANGAROO COURTS" THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you "holocaust ™" promoters--why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and "disease"--"holocaust ™ " "transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish "holocaust ™" survivors are infected with this "disease" and should also be considered "holocaust ™" survivors, eligible for "holocaust ™" reparations".

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews' declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a "gas chamber" chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these "camps".

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the "chimney" for the supposed "gas chamber" does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were "liberated" by the "allies", the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be "liberated" by the Russian "allies".

    I urge those "holocaust ™" believers to check these things out for yourselves--IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find...
    , @anarchyst
    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    - “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.
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  • @Art

    Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7] Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.
     
    The "six million lie" was at its strongest in 1967 - Israel had the support of the world. The joke of the times was that the Arab tanks had backup lights on them.

    They have pissed that support away - today the world rightfully hates Israel.

    ‘Time for excuses is over’: Gerry Adams urges Ireland to expel Israeli diplomat over Gaza violence

    "There can be no justification or excuse by Israel for the calculated slaughter by Israeli military snipers of unarmed Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border with Israel," Adams said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422900-gaza-adams-israel-ireland/
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    That’s attitude in 60s to Arab also was based on pure lies and defamation. Western citizen fell for it to feel better about themselves and to be accepted among the elite international progressive front .

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  • @Lost american
    Thanks anarchist- I well remember those late 60s , early 70s days when I was in USMC. I also remember the NY Times and other Bolshevik papers showing daily hate for ALL members of the USA Armed Forces.

    Older and smarter people made me wise to the fact that over at least 75 % of the USA's antiwar protestors didn't care about the Vietnamese people or the Palestinians. Noam Chomsky loved the attention he was getting as "head activist"- all those coeds marching with him, and unlike the grunt overseas, Chomsky got to sleep in the finest hotels, and he also never had a bad word to say about Israel.

    These older men told me when I got out of Corps after several years of service that all the protests were about a thing called the DRAFT. These men included a doctor, a lawyer, and dozens of veterans.
    My father was in WW2 and he was against warmongers (hated them) and he tried to get me to understand that all the people I knew got out of the draft because they didn't want any discomfort in their lives and were just plain afraid for their own skins. My classmates in high school didn't care about the Vietnamese people- only about their own skins. It was fine with me that they didn't want to go to Vietnam but they also refused service when Army recruiters would get signed documents stationing them in Germany and other safe assignments.
    The blue collar street kids I hung out with all got drafted and went into the military.

    I was in USMC 1969 to 1971 with one tour in Vietnam and also experienced the hatred that civilians had for us. The only “woodstock” I saw was on my M-14…lol
    Welcome home and Semper Fi, brother!

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  • @Joe Wong
    There are plenty of artifacts in the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese crime sites and museums in China as well as in other Asian nations, you should go there to check it out yourself, it might change your mind about defending those beastly barbarians after you see the cruelty yourself, presumably you are one of us, not one of those unrepentant beasts.

    One of the strategies the unrepentant war criminal Japanese adopted is to wait until all witnesses of their crimes die off, then they call for witness to testify after they reconstruct the crime sites. You and codoh.com is the vanguard in this field.

    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910…0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

    http://www.codoh.com

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    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.
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  • @Anon
    Wally, there is a great deal material about the awful things Japan did during WW2. Joe is Chinese he probably has relatives who remember the horrors.

    For a couple hundred dollars you can get a library card at universities. There is a lot of material available. There are many sources other than the history * channel and the internet.

    * history aka hitler channel

    Libraries are full of witchcraft testimony too.

    Joe’s trying the ‘I’m a victim’ routine’, he has no proof.

    Where’s the necessary physical evidence that should be available to see?

    http://www.codoh.com

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  • @SunBakedSuburb
    " I have no doubt Israel was involved ... in the assassination of JFK. "

    Israel had no role in the murder of JFK. If any Israeli had any knowledge of what went down in Dallas on November 22, 1963, they were Mossad agents who were chummy with CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton. And Angleton did have an operational role in the assassination.

    The masterminds behind the murder of JFK were CIA elites around Allen Dulles, like Angleton. The mafia played an important role. The anti-Castro Cubans were muscle.

    Oswald was intended to be killed in the movie theater. He stated he was just a patsy. He couldn’t go to trial. Jacob Rubinstein was needed to kill Oswald. Yes he did have mafia ties but then again there are people like Meyer Lansky who had power. Ruby did regularly attend a synagogue. Yes indeed, Angleton and Dulles were involved. Yes indeed were Angleton and Mossad connected. yes indeed did Mossad have connections to international organized crime ( a cutout for the hitmen procurement) stemming from the days of procuring illegal arms for Israel (still needed before LBJ). Yes indeed did JFK have a problem with Israel getting the bomb. Yes indeed did Johnston favor the state of Israel. Yes indeed did Israel have a relatively easy time getting the bomb after JFK’s death.
    but I do think it is a stretch that Israel decided that it was to be Vietnam rather than Cuba. Vietnam and Korea were decided on as WW2 ended. As Fletcher Prouty stated, after WW2 the equipment for the 500.000 man army group not needed to invade Japan was taken to Korea and Vietnam. Anecdotally, in my rural area an ex Navy intelligence non com bought the little country store. He told me he helped unload it. My own research made me think the Vietnam War was a bad idea. The US didn’t sign the Geneva Accord that ended French colonialism in Vietnam. I agree that the draft was the main reason there was such a forceful anti-war movement. I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force. Israel and many Jews do have influence and power grossly outstripping their small population .It is indeed an Anglo Zionist power group controlling the US. With the Jewish people we might know just ordinary manipulated people as much as you and me.

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    " I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force."

    Agreed. But the engineered LSD explosion also had an occult purpose behind it. There was broad experimentation done on hallucinogens throughout the 1950s and 1960s by the CIA and Pentagon. A lot of it was centered on mind control, but there was also an effort to define and enhance human psychic ability. Charles Manson and his peers were guinea pigs.
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  • @Lost american
    Thanks Unz Review for educating me with your brilliant columnists and also for the detailed, enlightening Comments that many leave.
    The NY Times has always been a pawn.
    The Zionist Spielberg gave us another story about the Pentagon Papers and Watergate Days, etc, but will we ever see a movie about the incredible evil done by Hilary Clinton and her FBI accomplices (and lots of other accomplices) against the Trump campaign and Presidency?

    You will also never see a movie about Israeli crimes, which are epic.

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  • I see that the hasbara hacks have lit here. As far as the mythical figure of 6 million jews dying. It is a made up figure that will NEVER be proved. Good piece by the way. The zionist tentacles spread far and wide.

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  • @lavoisier

    That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
     
    It is unfortunately NEVER over.

    “It is unfortunately NEVER over.”

    Exactly. Why give up promoting a narrative that has worked so well, and can still be exploited? Sure, you get the occasional righteous Jew like Finkelstein who objects… but ya gotta stay on top of the progressive stack. Besides, just think of the shekels!

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  • @Joe Wong
    The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals, they invaded, destroyed and carried out atrocities against other people without provocations, they committed crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes. They are denying their crimes with obfuscation and fake news so that they can recommit those crimes on the moral high ground just like their morally defunct barbaric forebears.

    The Japanese and the westerners fabricated numbers of casualties and reconstructed the events in China as well as around the world to form part of their obfuscation and fake news as diversion to white wash and gloss over their war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they have been committing around the world since 1648, so you, the Jap and the West can say the others killed themselves more so their murder, torture, looting, war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace are not crimes.

    It is their innate twisted mentality that your family fuel is the legal basis for them to murder you and ransack your home with impunity on the moral high ground. The Jap and the West particular the Anglo are very resentful that others reminding their wrongful past so that they cannot commit crimes on the moral high ground, and they become repeat offenders, a psychopathic one.

    “The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals”

    Exactly. Every other people in the world is far inferior to the glorious Han, not only morally, but in every other possible way. I couldn’t have put it better myself. Excellent point.

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  • Thanks Unz Review for educating me with your brilliant columnists and also for the detailed, enlightening Comments that many leave.
    The NY Times has always been a pawn.
    The Zionist Spielberg gave us another story about the Pentagon Papers and Watergate Days, etc, but will we ever see a movie about the incredible evil done by Hilary Clinton and her FBI accomplices (and lots of other accomplices) against the Trump campaign and Presidency?

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    You will also never see a movie about Israeli crimes, which are epic.
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  • @Joe Wong
    If the decedents of those beastly barbaric war criminals Japanese are indeed different from their insane forebears why are Japanese denying the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace not committed by them but by their forebears? Meanwhile are the Japanese worshipping their beastly barbaric criminals in their shrines?

    Why can’t the Japanese show remorse about their beastly barbaric war crimes like the German, and make anyone denying war crimes a criminal offense like the German? Doesn’t such deed prove they are not the same as their criminal forebears and earn them a moral standing among the victims? Why doesn’t the Japanese do such morally right things to detach themselves from their evilest evil past? What is the Japanese hiding and why are the Japanese afraid of showing remorse on behalf of their forebears for the wrongs they have done if they are not the same as their criminal forebears?

    But the Japanese are different, they continuously deny about their inhuman atrocities, wrongful acts and invasion during the world wars. The Japanese PM Abe and many political figures there publicly regularly deny what the country had done in WWII. More importantly, his cabinet received overwhelming support from Japanese. This nation and many of its people were not only evil but has lost their conscience to enable them to be a normal person. Such nation and people are a real danger to other countries.

    The Chinese and other war crime victims have the obligation to prevent such disaster and atrocities happening to them again, reminding such suffering and rebuttal war crime denial are some of the ways and their natural rights to protect themselves, and watching out the unrepentant war criminals from repeating their crimes.

    But the American and Anglo are defending the war criminal Japanese and denying, whitewashing and glossing over the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace like the Japanese by blaming the victims aggressively and accusing the victims harboring fabricated intense and irrational hatred towards unrepentant war criminal Japanese. The American and Anglo’s behaviour is puzzling, why are the Americans and Anglo white washing war crimes they did not commit, and defending the unrepentant war criminal Japanese once they joined hands with the victims like Chinese to defeat before? Why are the American and the Anglo doing such morally defunct and logically twisted things? Why are the American and Anglo wanting the victims to forget their perpetrator’s crimes? What is the American and Anglo’s agenda?

    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don’t harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those “dwarf bandits,” and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You’re right– they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more– just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain “beasts” and “criminals,” while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans….

    Interesting.

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    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.
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  • @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    Thanks anarchist- I well remember those late 60s , early 70s days when I was in USMC. I also remember the NY Times and other Bolshevik papers showing daily hate for ALL members of the USA Armed Forces.

    Older and smarter people made me wise to the fact that over at least 75 % of the USA’s antiwar protestors didn’t care about the Vietnamese people or the Palestinians. Noam Chomsky loved the attention he was getting as “head activist”- all those coeds marching with him, and unlike the grunt overseas, Chomsky got to sleep in the finest hotels, and he also never had a bad word to say about Israel.

    These older men told me when I got out of Corps after several years of service that all the protests were about a thing called the DRAFT. These men included a doctor, a lawyer, and dozens of veterans.
    My father was in WW2 and he was against warmongers (hated them) and he tried to get me to understand that all the people I knew got out of the draft because they didn’t want any discomfort in their lives and were just plain afraid for their own skins. My classmates in high school didn’t care about the Vietnamese people- only about their own skins. It was fine with me that they didn’t want to go to Vietnam but they also refused service when Army recruiters would get signed documents stationing them in Germany and other safe assignments.
    The blue collar street kids I hung out with all got drafted and went into the military.

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    I was in USMC 1969 to 1971 with one tour in Vietnam and also experienced the hatred that civilians had for us. The only "woodstock" I saw was on my M-14...lol
    Welcome home and Semper Fi, brother!
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  • “It is on record, thanks to Kennedy insider Arthur Schlesinger (A Thousand Days, 1965) that it was in fact Philip Graham and Joseph Alsop, respectively publisher and columnist of the Washington Post, both strong supporters of Israel, who convinced Kennedy to take Johnson on his ticket, in a closed door conversation.”

    Philip Graham, of course, was also the head of the newspaper side of the CIA’s media control project, Operation Mockingbird (which [216] mentioned previously). And the husband of Katherine Meyer Graham, the Post’s owner.

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  • @byrresheim
    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    No. He is definitely not the man for the job. Joe Wong only sees the evil of others. He cannot look in the mirror nor conceive that his own people perpetrated a world class holocaust that makes the more celebrated exploits of the Nazis look like nothing.

    I cannot help noticing the similarity between him and the celebrated anti-racist Tim Wise. Both are incredibly hateful and stupid racists.

    He has a future at CNN or the SPLC.

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  • @annamaria
    "Putin annexed the Crimea in a week"
    Hey, Tyrion 2, have you heard about three (3) referenda in Crimea, all three of which resulted in a popular vote for a greater independence from Ukraine? -- No? Never?
    And you also have no idea about the history of Ukraine, the history of Crimea, and about Mr. Khruschev mode of operation in the USSR? -- Then you are becoming the "Quotermeyster" of this forum.
    There are two main causes of the livid hatred towards Russian culture: 1. the banderites displeasure with the powerful neighbor (mind that the banderites are OK with ziocons, see Nuland-Kagan's tender friendship with Pravyj Sector activists); 2. the Jewish hatred towards the independent Russia that does not want to become a feed for the voracious ziocons.
    Neither China nor Morocco put themselves on a pedestal of the "most victimized victim" and the "most moral and most just nation" and other delusions. That was your tribal choice -- to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
    Whether the Lobby in the US or The Friends of Israel in the UK, they have produced the moral devastation that impossible to hide. The ongoing Middle Eastern wars killed your "most moral..." mythology and filled people with disgust. Instead of lamenting the "unfair" attention, learn first about the modern hystory of your tribe.
    The ziocon-controlled Wikipedia is even unable to use the word coup d'etat in relation to the events in Kiev in 2014 and instead the Wikipedia "controllers" use the word "revolution." If that was a revolution, then the referendum in Crimea in 2014 was the purest form of democracy.
    "The 77% of Crimea's population are native speakers of Russian. In the 2014 referendum, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea; 85.5 % voted for joining the Russian Federation. According to survey carried out by Pew Research Center in April 2014, majority of Crimean residents say the referendum was free and fair (91%) and that the government in Kyiv ought to recognize the results of the vote (88%)."
    In short, the reunification of Crimea with Russia was a democratic process unlike the bloody destruction of the former Yugoslavia by the US/NATO.
    When you decide next time, Tyrion 2, to express your Jewish grievances by using the data on unjust annexations, remember Kosovo.

    That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.

    It is unfortunately NEVER over.

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    "It is unfortunately NEVER over."

    Exactly. Why give up promoting a narrative that has worked so well, and can still be exploited? Sure, you get the occasional righteous Jew like Finkelstein who objects... but ya gotta stay on top of the progressive stack. Besides, just think of the shekels!
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  • @Ez
    "victorious struggle for freedom of the press"

    Is this satire? The "press" is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

    Is this satire? The “press” is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

    As currently constituted and controlled–YES.

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  • @Hu Mi Yu

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.
     
    He didn't do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.
     
    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn't really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.
     
    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
     
    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner's strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin's replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike's treatment of German POWs.

    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of “posse comitatus” laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian “law enforcement”.
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.

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  • @Anon
    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Eisenhower is a white supreme racist and Orientalist, he identified with Russian; in his memoirs he said “no matter what difference in culture and tradition, value or language, the Russian leaders were human beings, and they wanted to remain alive like us.”

    He further said “We are always wrong when we believe that Orientals think logically as we do.” Eisenhower is a continuation of old days of colonialism and hard core zero-sum cold war warrior.

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  • @Anon
    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He didn’t do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner’s strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin’s replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike’s treatment of German POWs.

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    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of "posse comitatus" laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian "law enforcement".
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.
    , @Hu Mi Yu

    I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president
     
    I did a web search, and Joe Bonono returns articles about Joe Bonanno. This is not the same person. Joe Bonanno was from southern Italy, but Joe Bonono was from northern Italy. He was a deep state ringer for the other Joe. In published photos of Bonono the right side of his face is obscured, because he had a mole or blemish there that would have blown his cover.
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  • @James Forrestal
    It's almost as if Mr. Wong harbors an intense, irrational hatred towards Japanese people, or something. Now why would that be?

    The "Rape of Nanking" seems to serve the same purpose for his people that the "death camp" narrative does for the chosen people (and the "comfort women" for the Koreans) -- a focus for their hatred, and justification for their belief that their enemies of 70+ years ago are still the evilest evil ever; collectively guilty of sins that can never be expiated. An interesting parallel.

    If the decedents of those beastly barbaric war criminals Japanese are indeed different from their insane forebears why are Japanese denying the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace not committed by them but by their forebears? Meanwhile are the Japanese worshipping their beastly barbaric criminals in their shrines?

    Why can’t the Japanese show remorse about their beastly barbaric war crimes like the German, and make anyone denying war crimes a criminal offense like the German? Doesn’t such deed prove they are not the same as their criminal forebears and earn them a moral standing among the victims? Why doesn’t the Japanese do such morally right things to detach themselves from their evilest evil past? What is the Japanese hiding and why are the Japanese afraid of showing remorse on behalf of their forebears for the wrongs they have done if they are not the same as their criminal forebears?

    But the Japanese are different, they continuously deny about their inhuman atrocities, wrongful acts and invasion during the world wars. The Japanese PM Abe and many political figures there publicly regularly deny what the country had done in WWII. More importantly, his cabinet received overwhelming support from Japanese. This nation and many of its people were not only evil but has lost their conscience to enable them to be a normal person. Such nation and people are a real danger to other countries.

    The Chinese and other war crime victims have the obligation to prevent such disaster and atrocities happening to them again, reminding such suffering and rebuttal war crime denial are some of the ways and their natural rights to protect themselves, and watching out the unrepentant war criminals from repeating their crimes.

    But the American and Anglo are defending the war criminal Japanese and denying, whitewashing and glossing over the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace like the Japanese by blaming the victims aggressively and accusing the victims harboring fabricated intense and irrational hatred towards unrepentant war criminal Japanese. The American and Anglo’s behaviour is puzzling, why are the Americans and Anglo white washing war crimes they did not commit, and defending the unrepentant war criminal Japanese once they joined hands with the victims like Chinese to defeat before? Why are the American and the Anglo doing such morally defunct and logically twisted things? Why are the American and Anglo wanting the victims to forget their perpetrator’s crimes? What is the American and Anglo’s agenda?

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    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don't harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those "dwarf bandits," and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You're right-- they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more-- just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain "beasts" and "criminals," while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans....

    Interesting.

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  • @Wally
    said:
    "During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, "

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    www.codoh.com

    There are plenty of artifacts in the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese crime sites and museums in China as well as in other Asian nations, you should go there to check it out yourself, it might change your mind about defending those beastly barbarians after you see the cruelty yourself, presumably you are one of us, not one of those unrepentant beasts.

    One of the strategies the unrepentant war criminal Japanese adopted is to wait until all witnesses of their crimes die off, then they call for witness to testify after they reconstruct the crime sites. You and codoh.com is the vanguard in this field.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

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  • @byrresheim
    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals, they invaded, destroyed and carried out atrocities against other people without provocations, they committed crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes. They are denying their crimes with obfuscation and fake news so that they can recommit those crimes on the moral high ground just like their morally defunct barbaric forebears.

    The Japanese and the westerners fabricated numbers of casualties and reconstructed the events in China as well as around the world to form part of their obfuscation and fake news as diversion to white wash and gloss over their war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they have been committing around the world since 1648, so you, the Jap and the West can say the others killed themselves more so their murder, torture, looting, war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace are not crimes.

    It is their innate twisted mentality that your family fuel is the legal basis for them to murder you and ransack your home with impunity on the moral high ground. The Jap and the West particular the Anglo are very resentful that others reminding their wrongful past so that they cannot commit crimes on the moral high ground, and they become repeat offenders, a psychopathic one.

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    "The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals"

    Exactly. Every other people in the world is far inferior to the glorious Han, not only morally, but in every other possible way. I couldn't have put it better myself. Excellent point.
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  • j2 says:
    @Brabantian
    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on 'Our First Jewish President', in the '5 Towns Jewish Times', with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a3d339a6886b1257ce4a8aa5d7c109dfdcea67abbde32e57aae58117ee8e7bf.jpg

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port"

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine"

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

     

    It is not essential to assume LBJ was of Jewish origins, since the aunt and probably LBJ belonged to Christadelphians, who consider restoration of Israel as necessary for the Second Coming of Jesus and have the nation of Israel in a central place in their teachings.

    Secondly just commenting the claim in the article, not responding to the comment: there may be better reasons for the Vietnam war than as a distraction of Israel’s six day war. In the Bible it is said that after the restoration of Israel there is to be a war all the time (for Christian Zionists up to the Second Coming). By the Old Testament and Zohar there should be the destruction of the Kings of Edom (Christians or non-Jews), all other nations will be enslaved or destroyed. Zionism is (cynically but still) realizing end-of-the-times prophesies. It is too rational to look for explanations from distraction or other tactical motives. These effects are side effects to strategical goals. These side effects can be useful, but they only confirm the wisdom of the path of actions. In the same way: holocaust had to be primarily as it was in prophesies, but secondarily it was tactically useful since not all European Jews could be taken to Israel in the early years.

    The article was very good in illuminating the Zionist connections of LBJ, I had not known it before, but it fits perfectly well to the assassination of JFK, blamed on Cubans, who blame it on a conspiracy of bankers, Meyer Lansky’s mafia family, CIA, and Cuban refugees. That seems as the correct group, only without spelling out the four-letter word.

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    DID you notice that all US presidents after finishing their term turn antisemitic.
    Obama did hot even wait until the end of his term!

    There are plenty of letters by Truman and Eleanor Roosevelt about how they felt about Jews.

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  • Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    The author is a deranged retard.

    No, LBJ's great grandparents were not Jewish. It takes like two minutes of research to figure this out. Some random website saying otherwise based solely on their common German last names is absurd. But these same idiots think Ike was Jewish too because of his various ancestors' "Jewish" surnames.

    April 11 2013 edition of a Long Island NY Jewish community newspaper the
    5 towns Jewish times has a long article claiming Lyndon Johnson was some kind of jew from a Jewish family who pretended to be Protestants.

    Maybe it’s just the trendy Jewish fad of claiming that all sorts of famous people like Christopher Columbus were really Jews. Read the article it’s on the internet.

    That Polish Pope I forget his name had an ethnic Jewish mother whose family became catholic.

    It’s not far fetched.

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    "That Polish Pope I forget his name..."

    John Paul II aka St. John Paul the Great
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  • @Art

    Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7] Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.
     
    The "six million lie" was at its strongest in 1967 - Israel had the support of the world. The joke of the times was that the Arab tanks had backup lights on them.

    They have pissed that support away - today the world rightfully hates Israel.

    ‘Time for excuses is over’: Gerry Adams urges Ireland to expel Israeli diplomat over Gaza violence

    "There can be no justification or excuse by Israel for the calculated slaughter by Israeli military snipers of unarmed Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border with Israel," Adams said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422900-gaza-adams-israel-ireland/
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    Hypocrite Gerry Adams is a terrorist and murderer himself.

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  • Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, "

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    www.codoh.com

    Wally, there is a great deal material about the awful things Japan did during WW2. Joe is Chinese he probably has relatives who remember the horrors.

    For a couple hundred dollars you can get a library card at universities. There is a lot of material available. There are many sources other than the history * channel and the internet.

    * history aka hitler channel

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Libraries are full of witchcraft testimony too.

    Joe's trying the 'I'm a victim' routine', he has no proof.

    Where's the necessary physical evidence that should be available to see?

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  • @Israel Shamir
    Excellent piece altogether, at least some parts of it sound true, in particular Lyndon B Johnson's pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish attitudes. Johnson's father had been instrumental in pardoning the lynched Jewish killer of a young girl. He was a close friend to a lady who was a full-fledged Israeli agent. It is dangerous to have such a vice-president, and that is what the US has now; extremely pro-Israeli VP Pence waiting in the wings for Trump to fail.
    However, while referring to anti-war movement, it is over-simplification. The US had draft army, not a mercenary one as now. This was the reason for anti-war movement then, and not now.
    1968 rising in Paris can't be reduced to Jewish manipulations. The Jewish activists betrayed the uprising, like the Jewish trade union leaders betrayed the underpaid workers, but the cause of the rising was fine and just. I loved 1968 and still love it. This failed and betrayed revolution is the source of many consequent events.
    Jews do change sides, it is true. Leon Trotsky or Danny Cohn-Bendit are prime examples. But their betrayals do not invalidate the cause or the movement.
    Even if CIA had been behind publication of Pentagon Papers, it was a good thing. Ditto Snowden.

    That lady was Mathilda Krim wife of financial market manipulator Arthur Krim.

    What a bunch of crooks American presidents are.

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