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    At the end of October, I wrote an article for Consortium News about the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign paying for unvetted opposition research that became the basis for much of the disputed story about Russia allegedly interfering in the 2016 presidential election. The piece showed that the Democrats’ two paid-for sources that...
  • @Dan323
    Interesting. Could you define antisemitic, Joe?

    What I see is a recounting of a historical situation.

    “Joogle” and “Kikebook”.

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  • @Grandpa Charlie

    "The viewpoints of Iranians, Palestinians, Russians, North Koreans and others are never fully reported in the Western media although the supposed mission of journalism is to help citizens understand a frighteningly complex world from multiple points of view" --- Joe Lauria
     
    Lauria's article is an excellent review of the hydra-headed MSM perversion of political journalism in this era of the PATRIOT Act, with special focus on 2016-2017. With one small exception ... that still is worth noting. Namely the inclusion of "North Koreans" along with Palestinians, Russians and Iranians as those whose viewpoints are never represented in the Western media.

    It"s true, of course, that the viewpoints of North Koreans go unreported in MSM, but that's hardly the "whole truth and nothing but the truth." The problems confronting any journalist who might endeavor to report on public opinion in North Korea are incomparably more difficult than the problems confronting attempts to report on public opinion in Iran, in Russia or in Palestine. These three "theaters" -- so to speak --each with its own challenges, no doubt, should never be conflated with the severe realities of censorship and even forceful thought policing in North Korea.

    True, the marginalization and exclusion of opinions of many more countries than the list you mention, would probably add up to a substantial percentage of the world’s population. When was the last time African, Latin American or many Asian opinions on matters of international import have been reported in the MSM? Forget that many citizens in these countries are better educated and informed than their brainwashed American counterparts. To label the MSM as a source of fake news is to flatter them. The nail in the head is the drivel that the West led by the US promote democracies and human rights while the existence of the UN security council where a handful of permanent members can veto resolutions and skew decisions in favor of the powerful makes that organ the most formidable barrier to global democracy.

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    What does any of this anti-semitic stuff have to do with my article? Not only is it vile, but it is off-topic. It seems that any open forum is seized on by imbeciles to spew their racist bile.

    Interesting. Could you define antisemitic, Joe?

    What I see is a recounting of a historical situation.

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    "Joogle" and "Kikebook".
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  • @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    1. Calculate mean household income using GDP data and US census data
    2. Compare it to median household income...the figure actually published
    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it's about 90%)
    4. Review definitions of mean and median and ask if you agree that "outlier effect" is an adequate explanation of why we don't see the mean published or discussed, ever

    That’s really only a valuable exercise if you view the United States as an economically contiguous nation. It’s not, by a long shot.

    It’s a collection of relatively economically isolated municipalities. To complicate matters, agricultural municipalities are of an entirely different economic and social nature than urban-town municipalities. But that’s a more complicated topic.

    At best, intra-state municipalities find economic relationships at the state level, but I would also argue that making that case for most would be difficult. The mean, then, is only relevant to each municipality.

    Put differently, there are a lot of poor municipalities in this nation. There are a lot of wealthy municipalities in this nation. They really have little to do with one another economically or culturally. Though, the beauty of this country is that the people from poor municipalities, if they work hard and with no small degree of luck, can move to economically and culturally better municipalities.

    Using the economic disparity, nationwide, to make a national political point is about as good as comparing the mean income of the USA to that of Thailand to make a political point. Your measurement is entirely too geographically broad to be economically meaningful. Though, I agree that it makes a nice alarmist headline.

    That being said, comparing economic inequality within a small geographic space can be meaningful. It can reflect quality of life and other arguable inferences.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The presstituting MSM and the incomparable (and very expensive) US national security apparatus as a can of useless parasitic worms: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-15/deconstructing-almighty-russian-hackers-myth
    “Let us pretend that Moscow wanted Trump to win. Let us further pretend that Moscow thought that there was a chance that he could win despite the fact that almost all news outlets, pollsters and pundits were completely confident that he could not. … Let us pretend that the strategy was to try and discredit Clinton….
    The Russians would know all about the Uranium One matter where, as even the Clinton-friendly NYT admitted, “a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation”. It would be very easy for them to package this as a case of Secretary of State Clinton selling US policy for personal profit. Russian intelligence organizations would have a great deal of true information and would find it easy to manufacture material to fill in any gaps in the story. Presented as a case of corruption and near treason, the story could have done a great deal of damage to her. And, given that it had happened six years earlier, all the details would have been known and ready to be used. It would have been a very powerful attack that even the complaint media would have had difficulty ignoring.
    … she [Clinton] ran a private e-mail server on which there were thousands and thousands of official communications. The server was very insecure and we can assume that Russia’s signals intelligence (and everyone else’s, for that matter) had penetrated it. Think of all the real material from that source that could be revealed or twisted to make a scandal.. Further, it is a reasonable assumption that Russian intelligence would have some of the thousands of e-mails that were “bleached”. There would be enough material for a months-long campaign of leaks…. So, a preliminary look would suggest that there were several angles of attack of which Uranium One would be the easiest and most effective.
    So, on the one hand we are supposed to believe that the Russian government is so clever that it can hack anything… is a threat to practically everything we hold sacred… but is too stupid to get it right. Possessing great and powerful secrets and a stunningly powerful machine to spread them, it chooses to fire a damp squib too late to make any difference and passes up the chance to have a compromised US president for it to control. In other words, it’s nonsense: we don’t really need the forensics of VIPS; we don’t need to argue with people who say it’s fake news about Seth Rich, or that Assange is a Putinbot, or carefully ignore Murray.”
    — Some national security services.
    And this is before the public awakens to the Awan affair (the greatest breach of national cybersecurity that was run for years!) and the murder of Seth Rich, an operative of Democratic Party. Our incomparable and very expensive security apparatus is still in the dark by whom was Seth Rich murdered in the D.C. A hint for the hapless pinkertons: Seth Rich was a leaker on Hillary machinations.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Jews nowhere have total control, they did not even control Franklin Roosevelt.
    In his last speech he said 'that ten minutes with king Saud had learned him more about zionists than hundreds of letters from USA rabbi's, and that he had promised Saud to restrict jewish immigation into Palestine'.
    He died a few weeks later, and was cremated where he died, Warm Springs.
    His coffin just contained an urn with his ashes.
    USA people never knew.
    Stalin was surprised that he did not lay in state.
    Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)

    I watch CNN extensively.
    Maybe I am too influenced by it.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Israel’s call: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/12/russia-us-is-training-new-batch-of.html
    “The US are training a new batch of militants called the New Syrian Army at a refugee camp who will then be transferred to Syria’s south to fight the Syrian Army. “Despite the statements from the American side about its adherence to elimination of the IS terrorist organization [ISIS], the “International Coalition” continues cooperating with the remaining terrorists in Syria… The U.S. instructors, according to refugees returning home, are saying after the training the new units would be relocated to Syria’s south to fight the Syrian governmental forces there,” the center explained.”
    — The Golan Heights… Yinon Plan… The same bloodthirsty projects
    “Israeli Intel Chief: We don’t want ISIS defeated in Syria” that would put Israel in ‘hard position’ http://news.antiwar.com/2016/06/21/israeli-intel-chief-we-dont-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    –Everythng has been already explained: The obedient US must protect ISIS to please Isael that has been squealing about existential threat from Iran, while cheering up the slaughter of 4 million civilians of all ages in the Middle East. The slaughter has been initiate and organized via ziocons in cooperation with ISIS/Al Qaeda and Saudis. Very much “democracy on the march!” Still whining about “eternal victimhood…”

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    You are soooooooo ridiculous!!!!!!!

    No influence!
    Total control is the correct term.

    Jews nowhere have total control, they did not even control Franklin Roosevelt.
    In his last speech he said ‘that ten minutes with king Saud had learned him more about zionists than hundreds of letters from USA rabbi’s, and that he had promised Saud to restrict jewish immigation into Palestine’.
    He died a few weeks later, and was cremated where he died, Warm Springs.
    His coffin just contained an urn with his ashes.
    USA people never knew.
    Stalin was surprised that he did not lay in state.
    Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)

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    I watch CNN extensively.
    Maybe I am too influenced by it.
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  • @Joe Lauria
    I am horrified by the numerous anti-semitic comments on this thread. You took my article as an excuse to unleash this fetid racism?

    Yes we are racist and we are proud of it.
    (I am beginning to have fun here}

    Jozephus! why worry?

    You are not responsible what these mean characters are writing.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    I wonder what your idea of antisemitic and off topic is.

    Your article is about censorship in the USA.
    Is your idea that USA jews have nothing to do with this censorship ?
    Leading USA media are CNN, Washpost and NYT.
    These media are attacking Trump continually.
    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    Then antisemitism, is criticism of (some) jews, and of Israel antisemitism ?
    Already long ago Obama and Sarkozy were at a conference, talked to one another, near a microphone not switched off.
    They agreed that Netanyahu was a liar, 'but', Obama said, 'I have to deal with him every day'.
    Israel does not determine all USA policies, but does influence many USA policies, as senator Hollings stated in 2004 'it is politics when Bush jr promised AIPAC the Iraq war in case he was elected'.
    I mention facts, I wonder if you see my mentioning facts as antisemitic.

    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    You are soooooooo ridiculous!!!!!!!

    No influence!
    Total control is the correct term.

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    Jews nowhere have total control, they did not even control Franklin Roosevelt.
    In his last speech he said 'that ten minutes with king Saud had learned him more about zionists than hundreds of letters from USA rabbi's, and that he had promised Saud to restrict jewish immigation into Palestine'.
    He died a few weeks later, and was cremated where he died, Warm Springs.
    His coffin just contained an urn with his ashes.
    USA people never knew.
    Stalin was surprised that he did not lay in state.
    Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)
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  • @Joe Lauria
    Who was misquoting me.

    Sorry, Joe, no cigar. Skeptical didn’t quote you, either. He was expressing his own opinions, in rebuke to Mark James – the only one who even referenced your article (and made an off-base jab at Robert Parry, as well).

    Censorship has already been discussed here, as well as the bankruptcy of the media. In fact, I submit that the reason Ron republished your article is because upsetting the Fake News applecart is a pet interest for him. (“Fake” includes lies by omission – or suppression – of course.) Welcome to Unz.

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  • @Joe Lauria
    What does any of this anti-semitic stuff have to do with my article? Not only is it vile, but it is off-topic. It seems that any open forum is seized on by imbeciles to spew their racist bile.

    I wonder what your idea of antisemitic and off topic is.

    Your article is about censorship in the USA.
    Is your idea that USA jews have nothing to do with this censorship ?
    Leading USA media are CNN, Washpost and NYT.
    These media are attacking Trump continually.
    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    Then antisemitism, is criticism of (some) jews, and of Israel antisemitism ?
    Already long ago Obama and Sarkozy were at a conference, talked to one another, near a microphone not switched off.
    They agreed that Netanyahu was a liar, ‘but’, Obama said, ‘I have to deal with him every day’.
    Israel does not determine all USA policies, but does influence many USA policies, as senator Hollings stated in 2004 ‘it is politics when Bush jr promised AIPAC the Iraq war in case he was elected’.
    I mention facts, I wonder if you see my mentioning facts as antisemitic.

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    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    You are soooooooo ridiculous!!!!!!!

    No influence!
    Total control is the correct term.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    You are horrified because the usual fairy tales are no longer accepted by a lot of people.
    What is horrifying about expressing doubts, and asking questions, about the standard holocaust stories ?
    Are you afraid of facts ?
    About racism, google Gentiles in Halacha, change to english in the upper left hand corner, there at right, from hebrew to english, and read an article by three rabbis that judaism is, or was, how many jews still have these ideas, do not know, racist.
    Alternatively you can read
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London

    What does any of this anti-semitic stuff have to do with my article? Not only is it vile, but it is off-topic. It seems that any open forum is seized on by imbeciles to spew their racist bile.

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    I wonder what your idea of antisemitic and off topic is.

    Your article is about censorship in the USA.
    Is your idea that USA jews have nothing to do with this censorship ?
    Leading USA media are CNN, Washpost and NYT.
    These media are attacking Trump continually.
    Anyone knows that jews do influence these media.

    Then antisemitism, is criticism of (some) jews, and of Israel antisemitism ?
    Already long ago Obama and Sarkozy were at a conference, talked to one another, near a microphone not switched off.
    They agreed that Netanyahu was a liar, 'but', Obama said, 'I have to deal with him every day'.
    Israel does not determine all USA policies, but does influence many USA policies, as senator Hollings stated in 2004 'it is politics when Bush jr promised AIPAC the Iraq war in case he was elected'.
    I mention facts, I wonder if you see my mentioning facts as antisemitic.

    , @Dan323
    Interesting. Could you define antisemitic, Joe?

    What I see is a recounting of a historical situation.
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  • @anarchyst
    The people who were charged and prosecuted at Nuremburg were almostall tortured and gave their “confessions” and “statements” under duress. From having their testicles smashed, to being forcefully sleep-deprived, British and American torturers under the direction of the jews were able to get the answers they wanted, but not the TRUTH. Many of the outlandish statements were (and still are) taken as truth, although they are mathematically and physically impossible.

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD THEY KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would they build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out .

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2. Not only that, it was Zionist leaders who insisted that jews be identified with the “yellow star of David” armband…

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    Neurenberg was almost completely run by jews who had fled from Germany to the USA.
    When Felix Frankfurter, USA high court judge, made preparations to join in Neurenberg, the chairman of the High Court called Neurenberg a ‘farce’, and said to Frankfurter that he did not go there as a judge, but as a jew.
    Goering, the accused with the highest IQ, according to tests there, seems to be to have been the only one one who foresaw what would happen.
    Thus he had his last fun, bringing chairman Jackson, a jew, so to frenzy with facts, that Jackson had to leave the court.
    His ultimate fun was suicide, with cyanide hidden in a bottle with cosmetics.
    But also Milch succeeded in hiding cyanide, but was just convicted to a few years in prison.
    He did not need it.

    Bruce Allen Murphy, ‘The Brandeis/Frankfurter Connection, The Secret Political Activities of Two Supreme Court Justices’, New York, 1983

    Leonard Mosley, ‘The Reich Marshall, A Biography of Hermann Goering’, London 1974

    David Irving, ‘The rise and fall of the Luftwaffe’, Londen, 1973, 1976 (Die Tragödie der Deutschen Luftwaffe, Aus den Akten und Erinnerungen von Feldmarschall Erhard Milch, 1970, 1975, Frankfurt/M)

    Contrary to popular views, the accusation was ‘conspiracy for a war of agression’.
    In 1939 waging war was no crime, until now nobody has been able to define ‘war of agression’.

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  • @Joe Lauria
    I am horrified by the numerous anti-semitic comments on this thread. You took my article as an excuse to unleash this fetid racism?

    You are horrified because the usual fairy tales are no longer accepted by a lot of people.
    What is horrifying about expressing doubts, and asking questions, about the standard holocaust stories ?
    Are you afraid of facts ?
    About racism, google Gentiles in Halacha, change to english in the upper left hand corner, there at right, from hebrew to english, and read an article by three rabbis that judaism is, or was, how many jews still have these ideas, do not know, racist.
    Alternatively you can read
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London

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    What does any of this anti-semitic stuff have to do with my article? Not only is it vile, but it is off-topic. It seems that any open forum is seized on by imbeciles to spew their racist bile.
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  • @RobinG
    LOL. The quote isn't from you, it's from Skeptical, to whom I was replying.

    Who was misquoting me.

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    Sorry, Joe, no cigar. Skeptical didn't quote you, either. He was expressing his own opinions, in rebuke to Mark James - the only one who even referenced your article (and made an off-base jab at Robert Parry, as well).

    Censorship has already been discussed here, as well as the bankruptcy of the media. In fact, I submit that the reason Ron republished your article is because upsetting the Fake News applecart is a pet interest for him. ("Fake" includes lies by omission - or suppression - of course.) Welcome to Unz.
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  • @Joe Lauria
    You quote is completely wrong and hence your comment makes no sense. The actual thing I wrote was:
    "That RT and Sputnik ran pieces critical of Hillary Clinton was their right, and they were hardly alone. "

    LOL. The quote isn’t from you, it’s from Skeptical, to whom I was replying.

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    Who was misquoting me.
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  • The roots of anti-Zionism:
    Ambassador Nikki Haley brags about bullying UN for Israel during AIPAC Conference, 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=234&v=iwyDfZToo1E

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  • @RobinG
    "Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here."

    Indeed, and I'm sure they do.... at some news outlet inside Russia, but here in the US, on RT, 'Russian journalists' are rare. Peter Lavelle may have a couple as guests on Bullhorns, and a couple of women do interviews (weekly shows), but otherwise almost nil. Even the Brits are scarce.

    Thom Hartmann used to get 2 or 3 hours every evening. (Glad to see the back of him!) Currently, Ed Schultz has the daily 11pm news slot. Tabetha Wallace is also nightly, together with sons of Oliver Stone and Jesse Ventura. And Jesse has a show. And Larry King. And Chris Hedges. And Max Kaiser. And some other libertarian financial types. Super Russian bunch, eh?

    You quote is completely wrong and hence your comment makes no sense. The actual thing I wrote was:
    “That RT and Sputnik ran pieces critical of Hillary Clinton was their right, and they were hardly alone. “

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    LOL. The quote isn't from you, it's from Skeptical, to whom I was replying.
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  • I am horrified by the numerous anti-semitic comments on this thread. You took my article as an excuse to unleash this fetid racism?

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    You are horrified because the usual fairy tales are no longer accepted by a lot of people.
    What is horrifying about expressing doubts, and asking questions, about the standard holocaust stories ?
    Are you afraid of facts ?
    About racism, google Gentiles in Halacha, change to english in the upper left hand corner, there at right, from hebrew to english, and read an article by three rabbis that judaism is, or was, how many jews still have these ideas, do not know, racist.
    Alternatively you can read
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Yes we are racist and we are proud of it.
    (I am beginning to have fun here}

    Jozephus! why worry?

    You are not responsible what these mean characters are writing.
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  • @Logan
    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it’s about 90%)

    Not possible. Median income means 50% of households make more, 50% make less.

    It is of course quite possible that the reported median household income numbers are fudged, but you clearly don't understand what median means.

    Mean is not the same as median. Thank you for your later correction. :-)

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Reminds me of a contemporary Russian joke: “Everything communists told us about socialism turned out to be a lie. However, everything they told us about capitalism is perfectly true”.

    “Everything communists told us about socialism turned out to be a lie. However, everything they told us about capitalism is perfectly true”.

    It is a joke only so far, it is also an excellent summary of prevailing mood in Russia. In the end Soviet “communists” (I deliberately put this word in quotation marks) were accurate with their geopolitical forecasts after WW II. In fact, they were prescient.

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  • The people who were charged and prosecuted at Nuremburg were almostall tortured and gave their “confessions” and “statements” under duress. From having their testicles smashed, to being forcefully sleep-deprived, British and American torturers under the direction of the jews were able to get the answers they wanted, but not the TRUTH. Many of the outlandish statements were (and still are) taken as truth, although they are mathematically and physically impossible.

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD THEY KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would they build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out .

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2. Not only that, it was Zionist leaders who insisted that jews be identified with the “yellow star of David” armband…

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

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    Neurenberg was almost completely run by jews who had fled from Germany to the USA.
    When Felix Frankfurter, USA high court judge, made preparations to join in Neurenberg, the chairman of the High Court called Neurenberg a 'farce', and said to Frankfurter that he did not go there as a judge, but as a jew.
    Goering, the accused with the highest IQ, according to tests there, seems to be to have been the only one one who foresaw what would happen.
    Thus he had his last fun, bringing chairman Jackson, a jew, so to frenzy with facts, that Jackson had to leave the court.
    His ultimate fun was suicide, with cyanide hidden in a bottle with cosmetics.
    But also Milch succeeded in hiding cyanide, but was just convicted to a few years in prison.
    He did not need it.

    Bruce Allen Murphy, ‘The Brandeis/Frankfurter Connection, The Secret Political Activities of Two Supreme Court Justices’, New York, 1983

    Leonard Mosley, ‘The Reich Marshall, A Biography of Hermann Goering’, London 1974

    David Irving, ‘The rise and fall of the Luftwaffe’, Londen, 1973, 1976 (Die Tragödie der Deutschen Luftwaffe, Aus den Akten und Erinnerungen von Feldmarschall Erhard Milch, 1970, 1975, Frankfurt/M)

    Contrary to popular views, the accusation was 'conspiracy for a war of agression'.
    In 1939 waging war was no crime, until now nobody has been able to define 'war of agression'.
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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I do not understand why US admin did single out the RT.
    BBC and RT were the sites where I used to check the news. There were some editorials, but not really critical of US. I have seen some Rt videos that were critical of US.
    Now RT does not have a news section at all only some articles.
    News section on BBC was also truncated to the extent that is not worth to go there at all.
    Rense is frozen now for about a week,
    I do not know what is happening.

    After BBC criticised Tony B-liar on Saddam’s 45 minutes WMD’s the BBC CEO was dismissed, and replaced by someone more constructive.
    RT of course is Russian propaganda, it also is one of the few places where the west can be criticised, most of the time, in my judgment, by sincere people.

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  • @anarchyst
    "a special group with special fluids"...more holohoax jokes...good one!

    This is the problem with the persecutions of jews during WWII, what to believe and what not ?
    I’m Dutch, we had at the beginning of WWII some 120.000 jews, if I remember correctly 100.000 Dutch and 20.000 refugees.
    The 100.000 were deported, some 5000 returned.
    The jewish refugees went underground, the majority was never discovered.
    The problem is how and why the approx 95000 died.

    Similar problems are with the gas chambers, that Auschwitz commander Höss, according to his confession, constructed himself.
    The Auschwitz crematoria came from well known German industries.

    The usual stories are that prisoners removed by hand the dead bodies after having been gassed.
    Why did not the efficient Germans build some mechanised system for transporting the bodies to the crematoria, and why had the remains to be pulverised by hand ?

    The Einsatz Kommando’s raise similar questions.
    According to Poliakov there were some 900 executioners in these groups, averaging some fifty men.
    In Neurenberg some twenty suspects appeared, it is their confessions on which anything rests.
    And how is it possible that the reports of the highly secret Einsatz activities were distributed in a hundred copies each time ?
    Poliakov several times states that say 40.000 jews were shot, and their bodied buried in mass graves.
    I am at loss to imagine how fifty men shot 40.000 men, who may have dug the grave, and fell in, all possible, but how did the fifty men get them there, and closed the grave ?
    Graves like this then were afterwards dug up by the special group, with what equipment, it is not stated, and the remains were destroyed by the special fluids.

    The number of Auschwitz victims over time has gone down from four million to 1.1 milion, the six million did not change.
    If it is coincidence I do not know, but the website specifying the names of jews who died in WWII has no more than three million names, despite that there is no check whatsoever on the entered names.
    When jews are criticised on this, they point out that the Armenians, claiming one and a half million victims, never could specify more than fifteen thousand names.

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  • I do not understand why US admin did single out the RT.
    BBC and RT were the sites where I used to check the news. There were some editorials, but not really critical of US. I have seen some Rt videos that were critical of US.
    Now RT does not have a news section at all only some articles.
    News section on BBC was also truncated to the extent that is not worth to go there at all.
    Rense is frozen now for about a week,
    I do not know what is happening.

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    After BBC criticised Tony B-liar on Saddam's 45 minutes WMD's the BBC CEO was dismissed, and replaced by someone more constructive.
    RT of course is Russian propaganda, it also is one of the few places where the west can be criticised, most of the time, in my judgment, by sincere people.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. "Not-America" in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

    “I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station.”
    – Why have you been suffering the RT? — Are you paid for watching it? The readers of the Unz review do not bother to attend to MSM because that would be the waste of tme, but you seem to be very attentive to RT and spend a lot of time on RT side. By the way, even the former director of the CIA Michael Morell went to speak on RT. Have you noticed? Is Morell a propagandist for Putin?
    On a point of bias, your posts are consistently pro-Israel (pro-ziocon). They are not pro-USA. And they are not pro-EU. The readers of both Unz Review and consortiumnews.com have identified you, on numerous accosaions, as a dishonest propagandist. And yet you continue coming on the sites with your fact-free silly statements and zocon opinions. Take a break already.
    Here are some facts (FACTS) for you: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps

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  • @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Joe Lauria may very well be a "victim", but certainly not one that I would parade around as some USDA table grade poster child victim of really egregious reprisals. He's a veteran in the establishment MSM milieu and certainly knew what kind of a shit bird operation it is that he chose to attempt to publish his piece in.

    Oh, lest I forget to mention, he didn't lose his livelihood, get ejected from his gym, have his country club membership revoked, get banned from AirB&B ad nauseum.

    “Oh, lest I forget to mention, he didn’t lose his livelihood..”
    We sure could detect a high level of irritation on your part. It seems that the direction the Russiagate is taking is against your desires.

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  • @Anonymous

    Despite this support from independent media, a senior official at Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, I learned, declined to take up my cause because he believes in the Russia-gate story. I also learned that a senior officer at the American Civil Liberties Union rejected my case because he too believes in Russia-gate. Both of these serious organizations were set up precisely to defend individuals in such situations on principle, not preference.
     
    I'm not even sure that they believe in Russia-gate. This could easily be cowardice or corruption. The globalists have poured untold millions into "fixing" the Internet wrongthink so it's only natural that we're seeing results. I'm seeing "grassroots" shilling everywhere, for instance.

    This is not going to work for them. You can't force consent of the governed. The more you squeeze, the more sand slips through your fingers.

    “I’m not even sure that they believe in Russia-gate. This could easily be cowardice or corruption.”
    On point!

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    Hey, ziocon, let’s go to the heart of the matter:
    Comment section for http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps
    “The facts are coming in, and it appears there is a concerted effort to destroy the Presidency of Mr Trump.
    Laws were broken.
    High ranking people committed treason.
    High ranking people committed sedition.
    Criminal conspiracies are still operational.
    The USA is a laughing stock to the entire world.
    Here’s my prediction:
    Although Trump understands all the duplicity and corruption of Obama and Clinton, he cannot expose the inherent corruption; it will destroy the nation.
    Trump will allow this investigation to play out as long as the special counsel investigation proceeds.
    The criminal, Mueller, will make a deal with the Patriot, Donald Trump.
    Everything involved with Obama/Hillary Clinton Scandal will be marked as classified; and no one can lay eyes on the information for 100 years or so.
    FUBAR”

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    “Hillary’s gross negligence doesn’t mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent.”
    — How do you know? More for your weak-minded attempts at evasion: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps
    “A senior Justice Department official demoted last week for concealing his meetings with the men behind the anti-Trump “dossier” had even closer ties to Fusion GPS, the firm responsible for the incendiary document… Nellie H. Ohr, wife of the demoted official, Bruce G. Ohr, was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016. Also notable is the she not only worked for Fusion GPS, but also represented the CIA’s “Open Source Works” group in a 2010 “expert working group report on international organized crime” along with Bruce Ohr and Fusion GPS co0founder Glenn Simpson.
    House investigators determined that during the 2016 election, Bruce Ohr met with former MI6 spy Christopher Steele, and shortly after the 2016 election he met with Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS – who commissioned Steele to assemble the dossier.
    Another factor in McCabe’s sudden cancellation is a report from The Hill’s John Solomon that Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) recently interviewed a retired FBI supervisor who told him he was instructed by Deputy Director Andrew McCabe not to call the 2012 Benghazi attack an act of terrorism when distributing the FBI’s findings to the larger intelligence community – despite knowing exactly who conducted the attack. The agent found the instruction concerning because his unit had gathered incontrovertible evidence showing a major al Qaeda figure had directed the attack and the information had already been briefed to President Obama. If true, it means McCabe lied for the Obama administration in a clear, partisan violation of the FBI’s mandate to “detect and prosecute crimes against the United States…”
    As Rep. DeSantis told The Hill: “By placing the interests of the Obama administration over the public’s interests, the order is yet another data point highlighting the politicization of the FBI.”
    The ziocons’ goons are panicking.

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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    Hey Mark James (is this a new nick for Michael Kenney?), here is your man — a traitor from a family of traitor: “The man who gave fake “Trump dossier” to John McCain speaks out” http://theduran.com/the-man-who-handed-off-fake-trump-dossier-to-john-mccain-speaks-out/
    “British court records reviewed by Fox News as well as U.S. congressional testimony revealed that Steele was directed and paid at least $168,000 by Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson to push the research that fall to five American media outlets. According to British court documents, Steele met with The New York Times (twice), The Washington Post (twice), CNN, The New Yorker and Yahoo News (twice). “Each of these interviews was conducted in person and with a member of Fusion also present,” according to the records associated with separate civil litigation against Steele and Fusion GPS.
    Three weeks after Trump won the presidential election … the details were finalized for the dossier hand-off to McCain. British court records state McCain ordered Kramer to get a personal briefing from Steele in Surrey, just outside of London, and then return to Washington, D.C., where Fusion GPS would provide McCain with hard copies.
    In January, McCain officially gave the dossier to the FBI, which already had its own copy from Steele.”

    Comment section: “Doesn’t this make McCain guilty of offenses under the Logan act; the very offense that was commonly leveled against Trump and called “collusion” in the press.”
    — True. The Tokyo Rose McCain has been working hard to enhance his image of a traitor for posterity.

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  • Censorship is the slipperiest of slippery slopes, because like AIDS, it attacks the immune system of society. Society’s immune system is the sources which disseminate truth.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    According to
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris
    there are no remains.
    A special group with special fluids destroyed all bones in all mass graves.
    They did this when the German troops had to withdraw from Russia.
    Of course they had to dig up the bones first.
    Great pity for Stalin that he was unaware what fluids, had he known the massacre of the Polish officers in Katyn would never have been proven.
    Poliakov bases his book on the Neurenberg trials, where he was present.
    The translation of haine is hate.

    “a special group with special fluids”…more holohoax jokes…good one!

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    This is the problem with the persecutions of jews during WWII, what to believe and what not ?
    I'm Dutch, we had at the beginning of WWII some 120.000 jews, if I remember correctly 100.000 Dutch and 20.000 refugees.
    The 100.000 were deported, some 5000 returned.
    The jewish refugees went underground, the majority was never discovered.
    The problem is how and why the approx 95000 died.

    Similar problems are with the gas chambers, that Auschwitz commander Höss, according to his confession, constructed himself.
    The Auschwitz crematoria came from well known German industries.

    The usual stories are that prisoners removed by hand the dead bodies after having been gassed.
    Why did not the efficient Germans build some mechanised system for transporting the bodies to the crematoria, and why had the remains to be pulverised by hand ?

    The Einsatz Kommando's raise similar questions.
    According to Poliakov there were some 900 executioners in these groups, averaging some fifty men.
    In Neurenberg some twenty suspects appeared, it is their confessions on which anything rests.
    And how is it possible that the reports of the highly secret Einsatz activities were distributed in a hundred copies each time ?
    Poliakov several times states that say 40.000 jews were shot, and their bodied buried in mass graves.
    I am at loss to imagine how fifty men shot 40.000 men, who may have dug the grave, and fell in, all possible, but how did the fifty men get them there, and closed the grave ?
    Graves like this then were afterwards dug up by the special group, with what equipment, it is not stated, and the remains were destroyed by the special fluids.

    The number of Auschwitz victims over time has gone down from four million to 1.1 milion, the six million did not change.
    If it is coincidence I do not know, but the website specifying the names of jews who died in WWII has no more than three million names, despite that there is no check whatsoever on the entered names.
    When jews are criticised on this, they point out that the Armenians, claiming one and a half million victims, never could specify more than fifteen thousand names.

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  • @RobinG
    "Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here."

    Indeed, and I'm sure they do.... at some news outlet inside Russia, but here in the US, on RT, 'Russian journalists' are rare. Peter Lavelle may have a couple as guests on Bullhorns, and a couple of women do interviews (weekly shows), but otherwise almost nil. Even the Brits are scarce.

    Thom Hartmann used to get 2 or 3 hours every evening. (Glad to see the back of him!) Currently, Ed Schultz has the daily 11pm news slot. Tabetha Wallace is also nightly, together with sons of Oliver Stone and Jesse Ventura. And Jesse has a show. And Larry King. And Chris Hedges. And Max Kaiser. And some other libertarian financial types. Super Russian bunch, eh?

    Let’s rephrase.
    Journalists hired by or aired on RT have the right to report what they want.
    Here or in Russia. Or anywhere, actually, where there is freedom of the press.
    You agree with that, right?
    Let’s also bear in mind that in the Internet age, “here” means at the website.

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You are utterly confused. Jooos wanted to rule the world through Communist system led by Russia.
    Their policy was to dive into Muslim world through Afghanistan. But Russians surprised by Afghan resistance give up. Jooos than like a flock of birds flew away and landed in US. So far they are more satisfied with performance of US, but now their rule of world is in stale mate.
    I can bet anything with anybody that the birds will take off again, and will fly to China.

    I dont think the Chinese would take in those birds. Those birds have proven to wreck whatever country they land in. The chinese are very culturally and ethnically united and have an inherent distrust of other peoples.

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  • @Wally
    I hit a nerve. Good.

    And clearly you support censorship of those who demolish impossible Zionist lies.
    Because you are a Zionist. LOL

    Science, rational thought, & logic simply demolish the impossible 'holocaust' storyline.
    And that's why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it.
    Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.

    Only liars demand censorship.


    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
     
    www.codoh.com

    According to
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris
    there are no remains.
    A special group with special fluids destroyed all bones in all mass graves.
    They did this when the German troops had to withdraw from Russia.
    Of course they had to dig up the bones first.
    Great pity for Stalin that he was unaware what fluids, had he known the massacre of the Polish officers in Katyn would never have been proven.
    Poliakov bases his book on the Neurenberg trials, where he was present.
    The translation of haine is hate.

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    "a special group with special fluids"...more holohoax jokes...good one!
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  • @Logan
    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it’s about 90%)

    Not possible. Median income means 50% of households make more, 50% make less.

    It is of course quite possible that the reported median household income numbers are fudged, but you clearly don't understand what median means.

    Ignore previous comment. Too late at night.

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  • @Alden
    Well, Jilles, welcome

    I enjoy your posts. I'm impressed by the way you back up your comments with references to books and articles. Your recent posts about FDR and Pearl Harbor was excellent. You've read a lot of Charles Beard.

    Charles Beard was a great historian. he often delved into the economic reasons for wars which historians often don't do.

    Thanks.
    I’m old and retired, and curious, and I can read in four languages.
    I became curious about history when an orthodox Israeli jew murdered Rabin, 1993 or so, after the Oslo Accords, that were supposed to bring peace.
    I wondered ‘do Israeli jews want peace ?’.
    Quality Dutch newspapers did not explain the murder.
    I discovered that mainstream history brought by these ‘quality’ newspapers was mainly nonsense.
    My reading goes on, if it ever will end ?
    Nearly finished a book on Japan’s decision to surrender, always thought that the bombs on Nagasaki and Hirosjima were nonsense.
    FDR, in my view, provoked the war with Japan, but my opinion now is that in the circumstances the two bombs saved lives.
    Without these bombs millions of Japanese were willing to fight until death.
    Even with the bombs, the emperor had to make the decision.

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  • @Skeptikal
    Mark:
    U sound nuts. You just repeat hypotheticals. You are happy to embrace the position of being evidence-challenged that is the principal target of Lauria's piece.
    Russia and Russian journalists or any others have the right to publish what they want.
    It is called the marketplace of ideas. Freedom of the press.
    People even apparently have the right to publish lies, and then to back down mealy-mouthed and say the lies were a "mistake." Come on.
    American news organizations and others masquerading as news organizations cream their panties to spread "news" in Russia that is critical of Putin and tear down "Russian" values and try to create the preconditions for regime change.
    Russia certainly has the right to do the same here.
    Whether it does or doesn't do so is immaterial. Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here. The crackdown on RT is a very bad omen.
    This country and its media are getting so effing totalitarian, it is terrifying.
    It is very discouraging to see the ACLU falling into line and becoming part of the "resist" movement. Because they have done a lot of very good work. I have supported the ACLU for years.
    But the ACLU will destroy itself if it caves in to "liberals" and fails to hew to its principles and mission. It cannot be destroyed from the outside, but it can be destroyed from the inside if it lets itself be used as tool by a political faction parading as . . . not sure what these "resist" and Antifa people are parading as.

    “Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here.”

    Indeed, and I’m sure they do…. at some news outlet inside Russia, but here in the US, on RT, ‘Russian journalists’ are rare. Peter Lavelle may have a couple as guests on Bullhorns, and a couple of women do interviews (weekly shows), but otherwise almost nil. Even the Brits are scarce.

    Thom Hartmann used to get 2 or 3 hours every evening. (Glad to see the back of him!) Currently, Ed Schultz has the daily 11pm news slot. Tabetha Wallace is also nightly, together with sons of Oliver Stone and Jesse Ventura. And Jesse has a show. And Larry King. And Chris Hedges. And Max Kaiser. And some other libertarian financial types. Super Russian bunch, eh?

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    Let's rephrase.
    Journalists hired by or aired on RT have the right to report what they want.
    Here or in Russia. Or anywhere, actually, where there is freedom of the press.
    You agree with that, right?
    Let's also bear in mind that in the Internet age, "here" means at the website.
    , @Joe Lauria
    You quote is completely wrong and hence your comment makes no sense. The actual thing I wrote was:
    "That RT and Sputnik ran pieces critical of Hillary Clinton was their right, and they were hardly alone. "
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  • @Aspen Tingleblot
    It A MA Z E S me how some people can read an article without being able to learn the most basic facts presented.
    Wally, you win 1st Prize

    I hit a nerve. Good.

    And clearly you support censorship of those who demolish impossible Zionist lies.
    Because you are a Zionist. LOL

    Science, rational thought, & logic simply demolish the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline.
    And that’s why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it.
    Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    http://www.codoh.com

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    According to
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris
    there are no remains.
    A special group with special fluids destroyed all bones in all mass graves.
    They did this when the German troops had to withdraw from Russia.
    Of course they had to dig up the bones first.
    Great pity for Stalin that he was unaware what fluids, had he known the massacre of the Polish officers in Katyn would never have been proven.
    Poliakov bases his book on the Neurenberg trials, where he was present.
    The translation of haine is hate.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    In hindsight I wish I would have made a list of sites where I was banned, some of them several times.
    In the USA Washpost and Christian Science Monitor, both sites were abolished, I suppose because censorship and banning became too expensive.
    In UK War Without End was was one of the very few sites where was no censorship, UK laws forced the owner to close down.
    The site was near impossible to hack, the owner had a hand built interface in Linux between incoming messages and the site itself.
    At present there is not one more or less serious Dutch site where I can write.
    On top of that, most Dutch sites no longer exist, especially those operated by newspapers.
    It seems to be the same in Germany.
    The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte, he died maybe a year ago, he worked long for the prestigious newspaper FAZ, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, wrote a book about bought journalism.
    His explanation for the disappearence of discussion sites with newspapers is that the journalists discovered that the reactions got far more attention than the articles.
    Very annoying, of course.
    With us here, Follow The Money, and The Post Online behave as childish as German newspapers.

    Well, Jilles, welcome

    I enjoy your posts. I’m impressed by the way you back up your comments with references to books and articles. Your recent posts about FDR and Pearl Harbor was excellent. You’ve read a lot of Charles Beard.

    Charles Beard was a great historian. he often delved into the economic reasons for wars which historians often don’t do.

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    Thanks.
    I'm old and retired, and curious, and I can read in four languages.
    I became curious about history when an orthodox Israeli jew murdered Rabin, 1993 or so, after the Oslo Accords, that were supposed to bring peace.
    I wondered 'do Israeli jews want peace ?'.
    Quality Dutch newspapers did not explain the murder.
    I discovered that mainstream history brought by these 'quality' newspapers was mainly nonsense.
    My reading goes on, if it ever will end ?
    Nearly finished a book on Japan's decision to surrender, always thought that the bombs on Nagasaki and Hirosjima were nonsense.
    FDR, in my view, provoked the war with Japan, but my opinion now is that in the circumstances the two bombs saved lives.
    Without these bombs millions of Japanese were willing to fight until death.
    Even with the bombs, the emperor had to make the decision.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. "Not-America" in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

    Per Michael Kenny, “Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters!”
    Really?
    Like, why?
    What scares “Putin’s supporters” is the same as what scares “sanity supporters.”
    No doubt Americans support Putin because they have access to other info than the drivel from the American MSM and TV. Consequently, they know that Putin is the greatest statesman alive on the planet today and wish that our “democratic” system could put in place a similar leader. I wonder whom in the American firmament (;-) Michael Kenny nominates for that spot of “best world leader” or even “good enough.” Trump? Hillary Clinton? Obama? Paul Ryan? John McCain? Lindsey Graham? Al Franken?????
    Bwa ha ha.

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  • @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    Mark:
    U sound nuts. You just repeat hypotheticals. You are happy to embrace the position of being evidence-challenged that is the principal target of Lauria’s piece.
    Russia and Russian journalists or any others have the right to publish what they want.
    It is called the marketplace of ideas. Freedom of the press.
    People even apparently have the right to publish lies, and then to back down mealy-mouthed and say the lies were a “mistake.” Come on.
    American news organizations and others masquerading as news organizations cream their panties to spread “news” in Russia that is critical of Putin and tear down “Russian” values and try to create the preconditions for regime change.
    Russia certainly has the right to do the same here.
    Whether it does or doesn’t do so is immaterial. Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here. The crackdown on RT is a very bad omen.
    This country and its media are getting so effing totalitarian, it is terrifying.
    It is very discouraging to see the ACLU falling into line and becoming part of the “resist” movement. Because they have done a lot of very good work. I have supported the ACLU for years.
    But the ACLU will destroy itself if it caves in to “liberals” and fails to hew to its principles and mission. It cannot be destroyed from the outside, but it can be destroyed from the inside if it lets itself be used as tool by a political faction parading as . . . not sure what these “resist” and Antifa people are parading as.

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    "Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here."

    Indeed, and I'm sure they do.... at some news outlet inside Russia, but here in the US, on RT, 'Russian journalists' are rare. Peter Lavelle may have a couple as guests on Bullhorns, and a couple of women do interviews (weekly shows), but otherwise almost nil. Even the Brits are scarce.

    Thom Hartmann used to get 2 or 3 hours every evening. (Glad to see the back of him!) Currently, Ed Schultz has the daily 11pm news slot. Tabetha Wallace is also nightly, together with sons of Oliver Stone and Jesse Ventura. And Jesse has a show. And Larry King. And Chris Hedges. And Max Kaiser. And some other libertarian financial types. Super Russian bunch, eh?
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  • Banned by Zion or BBZ

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  • what the adl has to acknowledge is that there are rabbis in this country preaching racism and genocide, right out of the babylonian talmud; who are these amalek, ? maybe the rabbi’s talks should be recorded, and examined for hate speech before we take away everyone’s 1st amendment rights ?

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  • Reminds me of a contemporary Russian joke: “Everything communists told us about socialism turned out to be a lie. However, everything they told us about capitalism is perfectly true”.

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    “Everything communists told us about socialism turned out to be a lie. However, everything they told us about capitalism is perfectly true”.
     
    It is a joke only so far, it is also an excellent summary of prevailing mood in Russia. In the end Soviet "communists" (I deliberately put this word in quotation marks) were accurate with their geopolitical forecasts after WW II. In fact, they were prescient.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. "Not-America" in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

    Assuming you get paid by how many responses you generate, I’ll add mine so you have something to spend on yourself at Christmas.
    To some people, truth is an enemy. A thing to rebuke, obfuscate and defer from. The more you write, the less you say.
    Buy yourself a candle

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  • @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    It A MA Z E S me how some people can read an article without being able to learn the most basic facts presented.
    Wally, you win 1st Prize

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    I hit a nerve. Good.

    And clearly you support censorship of those who demolish impossible Zionist lies.
    Because you are a Zionist. LOL

    Science, rational thought, & logic simply demolish the impossible 'holocaust' storyline.
    And that's why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it.
    Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.

    Only liars demand censorship.


    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
     
    www.codoh.com
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. "Not-America" in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

    blindly peddling simplistic propaganda

    OK, give some evidence that Lauria’s overall point is false. I doubt you can. Like the mainstream media, you feel you don’t need evidence to sling some serious accusations at someone.

    You remind me of the people who incited the witch hunts in Salem, which caused many women to be burnt to death on practically zero evidence. That was four hundred years ago. Nothing like progress, right?

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  • @Alden
    Your post is exactly what I wanted to write. Saved me the effort. I figured out the MSM was nothing but lies around 1966. I have no sympathy for any MSM journalist.

    You are probably doing Lauria an injustice. It is quite possible for Lauria to be honest while he’s making a living in the media (which was not as corrupt as it is now).

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  • @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    1. Calculate mean household income using GDP data and US census data
    2. Compare it to median household income...the figure actually published
    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it's about 90%)
    4. Review definitions of mean and median and ask if you agree that "outlier effect" is an adequate explanation of why we don't see the mean published or discussed, ever

    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it’s about 90%)

    Not possible. Median income means 50% of households make more, 50% make less.

    It is of course quite possible that the reported median household income numbers are fudged, but you clearly don’t understand what median means.

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    Ignore previous comment. Too late at night.
    , @Alfred
    Mean is not the same as median. Thank you for your later correction. :-)
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  • You may be remembering DES:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Encryption_Standard

    It was a standard for many years, and it had 56 bit keys.

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  • @joe webb
    just about any basic argument can be stated in just a few sentences.

    The reason that the US is anti-Russia is not global baloneyism.

    The reason is that Russia threw out and neutralized the Jew Power. It is that simple, and the reason the US cares is that it is run by Jews in its foreign policy and much of everything else.

    This was accomplished under Kissinger, et al when they threw out the Arabists in the State Dept.

    Joe Webb

    You are utterly confused. Jooos wanted to rule the world through Communist system led by Russia.
    Their policy was to dive into Muslim world through Afghanistan. But Russians surprised by Afghan resistance give up. Jooos than like a flock of birds flew away and landed in US. So far they are more satisfied with performance of US, but now their rule of world is in stale mate.
    I can bet anything with anybody that the birds will take off again, and will fly to China.

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    I dont think the Chinese would take in those birds. Those birds have proven to wreck whatever country they land in. The chinese are very culturally and ethnically united and have an inherent distrust of other peoples.
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  • @cowardly troll
    Two points:

    (1) Orwell's memory hole is real, and if you have a memory of something, but no web page to back it up, you cannot convince someone .

    (2) A former government contractor says that the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation installed a number of back doors into the encryption software used by the OpenBSD operating system.

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/fbi-accused-of-planting-backdoor-in-openbsd-ipsec-stack/
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/213751/former_contractor_says_fbi_put_back_door_in_openbsd.html


    No word from Wikileaks or the Linux community about CIA hack:
    https://sputniknews.com/science/201703071051349744-cia-anti-viruses-wikileaks/
    The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) found different ways to penetrate the defenses set up by various well-known anti-virus programs, the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website said Tuesday.

    According to the document, the CIA also devised malware targeting Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, Linux and other operating systems.

    Concerning point 2

    https://www.rt.com/news/412778-hp-laptop-keylogger-code/

    A security researcher has revealed that some HP laptops have hidden software which can log everything typed on its keypads. More than 460 models have been affected, dating back to 2012, according to the list released by HP.

    And what about Android and IOS predictive “keyboards”

    https://www.rt.com/news/412060-virtual-keyboard-users-exposed/

    More than 31 million users of a popular virtual keyboard app AI.type, have had their private data exposed online, including email addresses, passwords, dates of birth and details from Google accounts, as well as actual text entered using the keyboard.

    https://sputniknews.com/news/201605121039470344-google-apple-keyboard-app-spying/

    On Android phones and iPhones you can swap out the traditional keyboards with emoji and gif-laden alternatives, but pay attention when you install third party keyboards because apps require full access. By choosing that option, developers “transmit anything you type” back to their servers.

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  • @cowardly troll
    Two points:

    (1) Orwell's memory hole is real, and if you have a memory of something, but no web page to back it up, you cannot convince someone .

    (2) A former government contractor says that the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation installed a number of back doors into the encryption software used by the OpenBSD operating system.

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/fbi-accused-of-planting-backdoor-in-openbsd-ipsec-stack/
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/213751/former_contractor_says_fbi_put_back_door_in_openbsd.html


    No word from Wikileaks or the Linux community about CIA hack:
    https://sputniknews.com/science/201703071051349744-cia-anti-viruses-wikileaks/
    The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) found different ways to penetrate the defenses set up by various well-known anti-virus programs, the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website said Tuesday.

    According to the document, the CIA also devised malware targeting Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, Linux and other operating systems.

    Concerning the memory hole:

    https://kaggsysbookishramblings.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/recent-reads-in-the-first-circle-by-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

    One of the most moving sequences in the book is the chapter 61 when Innokenty visits his mother’s brother, Uncle Avenir, whom he barely knows and has not seen since her death. Despite this, and Ink’s initial doubts, the two men discover an instant family bond and are soon exchanging deep and treasonous opinions. Uncle Avenir is a secret memory man, retaining old newspapers back to the time of the revolution which show how the party line has changed and history has been re-written. His connection with his Uncle is one of the things which changes Innokenty irrevocably so that he goes on to take the momentous action of the first chapter.

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  • @Hu Mi Yu

    Example, in 1999 I read an article in a weekly tech newspaper – maybe Information Week – about university researchers who discovered that 64 bit encrypted phones were only using the first 56 bits and the last 8 were zeros.
     
    If you read source code, you will find other cases of security being compromised by coding "errors". This is why we are being pushed into accepting proprietary code.

    Two points:

    (1) Orwell’s memory hole is real, and if you have a memory of something, but no web page to back it up, you cannot convince someone .

    (2) A former government contractor says that the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation installed a number of back doors into the encryption software used by the OpenBSD operating system.

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/fbi-accused-of-planting-backdoor-in-openbsd-ipsec-stack/

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/213751/former_contractor_says_fbi_put_back_door_in_openbsd.html

    No word from Wikileaks or the Linux community about CIA hack:

    https://sputniknews.com/science/201703071051349744-cia-anti-viruses-wikileaks/

    The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) found different ways to penetrate the defenses set up by various well-known anti-virus programs, the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website said Tuesday.

    According to the document, the CIA also devised malware targeting Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, Linux and other operating systems.

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    Concerning the memory hole:

    https://kaggsysbookishramblings.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/recent-reads-in-the-first-circle-by-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    One of the most moving sequences in the book is the chapter 61 when Innokenty visits his mother’s brother, Uncle Avenir, whom he barely knows and has not seen since her death. Despite this, and Ink’s initial doubts, the two men discover an instant family bond and are soon exchanging deep and treasonous opinions. Uncle Avenir is a secret memory man, retaining old newspapers back to the time of the revolution which show how the party line has changed and history has been re-written. His connection with his Uncle is one of the things which changes Innokenty irrevocably so that he goes on to take the momentous action of the first chapter.
    , @cowardly troll
    Concerning point 2

    https://www.rt.com/news/412778-hp-laptop-keylogger-code/

    A security researcher has revealed that some HP laptops have hidden software which can log everything typed on its keypads. More than 460 models have been affected, dating back to 2012, according to the list released by HP.

    And what about Android and IOS predictive "keyboards"

    https://www.rt.com/news/412060-virtual-keyboard-users-exposed/

    More than 31 million users of a popular virtual keyboard app AI.type, have had their private data exposed online, including email addresses, passwords, dates of birth and details from Google accounts, as well as actual text entered using the keyboard.

    https://sputniknews.com/news/201605121039470344-google-apple-keyboard-app-spying/

    On Android phones and iPhones you can swap out the traditional keyboards with emoji and gif-laden alternatives, but pay attention when you install third party keyboards because apps require full access. By choosing that option, developers "transmit anything you type" back to their servers.
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  • @Anonymous

    Despite this support from independent media, a senior official at Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, I learned, declined to take up my cause because he believes in the Russia-gate story. I also learned that a senior officer at the American Civil Liberties Union rejected my case because he too believes in Russia-gate. Both of these serious organizations were set up precisely to defend individuals in such situations on principle, not preference.
     
    I'm not even sure that they believe in Russia-gate. This could easily be cowardice or corruption. The globalists have poured untold millions into "fixing" the Internet wrongthink so it's only natural that we're seeing results. I'm seeing "grassroots" shilling everywhere, for instance.

    This is not going to work for them. You can't force consent of the governed. The more you squeeze, the more sand slips through your fingers.

    You can’t force consent of the governed.

    Since when has consent got anything to do with it?

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  • “neo-McCarthite witch hunt”. what a gas, as in laughing.

    McCarthy was correct in everything he did and said.

    Joe Webb

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  • @Wally

    "They don't jail you for lies. They jail you for truth."
     
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is actually illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.

    An obvious admission that the '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    The US Congress has passed (will pass more) laws that will brand you and I as Un-American for reading the truth and criticizing government actions. They will call it ‘reform’.

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  • just about any basic argument can be stated in just a few sentences.

    The reason that the US is anti-Russia is not global baloneyism.

    The reason is that Russia threw out and neutralized the Jew Power. It is that simple, and the reason the US cares is that it is run by Jews in its foreign policy and much of everything else.

    This was accomplished under Kissinger, et al when they threw out the Arabists in the State Dept.

    Joe Webb

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    You are utterly confused. Jooos wanted to rule the world through Communist system led by Russia.
    Their policy was to dive into Muslim world through Afghanistan. But Russians surprised by Afghan resistance give up. Jooos than like a flock of birds flew away and landed in US. So far they are more satisfied with performance of US, but now their rule of world is in stale mate.
    I can bet anything with anybody that the birds will take off again, and will fly to China.
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  • Joogle and Kikebook are both overt jooie image / info filters. If it’s double plus good for jooies…it gets through the jooie filter. If it’s jooie ungood…it doesn’t get through the jooie filter. So what? 99% of the servile population has a JooBox in their living room and believes whatever jooie plus good images / info it spews forth. Tell us something new……..

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  • Wouldn’t it be scary if a nation’s central bank was controlled and run by a group pretending to be loyal to their host nation, but was actually in league with a nation that was trying to gobble up huge chunks of ME land, doing this by controlling the host nation’s media outlets, and forever posting psyop stories and actual lies to support the land thefts?

    And if that same central bank would give out loans–that never get repaid–to the same ethnic gangsters that would then would use those loans to buy up over 90% of the host nations MSM outlets to forever ensure that a steady drip, drip, drip of propaganda went into the host nation’s residents, ever so slowly turning them into mindless sheep always bleating for more wars to help the ethnic gangsters steal their way to an Eretz state?

    Yes, it would be scary to live in a tyrant state like that.

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  • @Michael Kenny
    Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. "Not-America" in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

    Great post!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you

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  • @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Joe Lauria may very well be a "victim", but certainly not one that I would parade around as some USDA table grade poster child victim of really egregious reprisals. He's a veteran in the establishment MSM milieu and certainly knew what kind of a shit bird operation it is that he chose to attempt to publish his piece in.

    Oh, lest I forget to mention, he didn't lose his livelihood, get ejected from his gym, have his country club membership revoked, get banned from AirB&B ad nauseum.

    Your post is exactly what I wanted to write. Saved me the effort. I figured out the MSM was nothing but lies around 1966. I have no sympathy for any MSM journalist.

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    You are probably doing Lauria an injustice. It is quite possible for Lauria to be honest while he's making a living in the media (which was not as corrupt as it is now).
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  • @Don Bacon
    There is censorship on blogs.
    >I have been banned from The Atlantic blog for correcting a noted anti-Iran blogger.
    >I have been banned from the National Interest blog for highlighting Pentagon's acquisition problems.
    >I have been banned by Facebook for declaring that females don't belong in the infantry. I "violated community standards" with my opinion which was based somewhat on my time in the infantry, which my PC critic probably lacked.

    In hindsight I wish I would have made a list of sites where I was banned, some of them several times.
    In the USA Washpost and Christian Science Monitor, both sites were abolished, I suppose because censorship and banning became too expensive.
    In UK War Without End was was one of the very few sites where was no censorship, UK laws forced the owner to close down.
    The site was near impossible to hack, the owner had a hand built interface in Linux between incoming messages and the site itself.
    At present there is not one more or less serious Dutch site where I can write.
    On top of that, most Dutch sites no longer exist, especially those operated by newspapers.
    It seems to be the same in Germany.
    The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte, he died maybe a year ago, he worked long for the prestigious newspaper FAZ, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, wrote a book about bought journalism.
    His explanation for the disappearence of discussion sites with newspapers is that the journalists discovered that the reactions got far more attention than the articles.
    Very annoying, of course.
    With us here, Follow The Money, and The Post Online behave as childish as German newspapers.

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    Well, Jilles, welcome

    I enjoy your posts. I'm impressed by the way you back up your comments with references to books and articles. Your recent posts about FDR and Pearl Harbor was excellent. You've read a lot of Charles Beard.

    Charles Beard was a great historian. he often delved into the economic reasons for wars which historians often don't do.
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  • There is censorship on blogs.
    >I have been banned from The Atlantic blog for correcting a noted anti-Iran blogger.
    >I have been banned from the National Interest blog for highlighting Pentagon’s acquisition problems.
    >I have been banned by Facebook for declaring that females don’t belong in the infantry. I “violated community standards” with my opinion which was based somewhat on my time in the infantry, which my PC critic probably lacked.

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    In hindsight I wish I would have made a list of sites where I was banned, some of them several times.
    In the USA Washpost and Christian Science Monitor, both sites were abolished, I suppose because censorship and banning became too expensive.
    In UK War Without End was was one of the very few sites where was no censorship, UK laws forced the owner to close down.
    The site was near impossible to hack, the owner had a hand built interface in Linux between incoming messages and the site itself.
    At present there is not one more or less serious Dutch site where I can write.
    On top of that, most Dutch sites no longer exist, especially those operated by newspapers.
    It seems to be the same in Germany.
    The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte, he died maybe a year ago, he worked long for the prestigious newspaper FAZ, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, wrote a book about bought journalism.
    His explanation for the disappearence of discussion sites with newspapers is that the journalists discovered that the reactions got far more attention than the articles.
    Very annoying, of course.
    With us here, Follow The Money, and The Post Online behave as childish as German newspapers.
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  • Mark James’ modified limited hangout shows us the true purpose of his ICCPR-illegal statist war propaganda. James candidly jettisons Hillary, acknowledging the obvious, that she was the more repulsive choice in this duel of the titans. But James is still hanging on to the crucial residual message of the CIA line: Putin tripleplus bad.

    Without factual support James calls Putin an organized criminal. US NGO staff who have actually dealt with Putin characterize him as a strict legalist. In fact, Putin’s incorruptibility is what drives CIA up the wall. Ask any upper-echelon spook. Putin’s cupidity deficit short-circuits CIA’s go-to subversion method, massive bribes. Putin has an uneasy relationship with the kleptocrats CIA installed while their puppet Yeltsin staggered around blind drunk. But Putin has materially curbed kleptocratic corruption and subversion. Russians appreciate that.

    James fantasizes that Putin is going to get ousted and murdered. However Putin has public approval that US politicians couldn’t dream of. This is because Russia’s government meets world human rights standards that the US fails to meet. The Russian government complies with the Paris Principles, world standard for institutionalized human rights protection under expert international review. The USA does not. The USA is simply not is Russia’s league with respect to universally-acknowledged rights.

    James can easily verify this by comparing the US human-rights deficiencies to corresponding Russian reviews, point-by-point, based on each article of the core human rights conventions.

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    Comprehensive international human rights review shows that the USA is not in Russia’s league. Look at the maps if you can’t be bothered to read the particulars – they put the US in an underdeveloped backwater with headchopping Arab princelings and a couple African presidents-for-life. CIA’s INGSOC fixation on Putin is intended to divert your attention from the objectively superior human-rights performance of the Russian government as a whole, and the USA’s failure and disgrace in public in Geneva, front of the whole world.

    How did this happen? Turns out, dismantling the USSR did Russia a world of good. Now we see it’s time to take the USA apart and do the same for America. That’s the origin of the panic you can smell on the CIA regime.

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  • @Carlton Meyer
    "Breaking News" - CNN's Fake News Exposed -- Again!

    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

    Oh for God’s sake, your fake news…

    The news is all propaganda, it has been for decades, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NPR…all of it.

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  • Crikey. You ‘Murcans are sure stuffed up in ‘gate’ heaven. Anyway, the Russkies are winding down in Syria so let’s see the colo(u)r of yo(u)r boots.

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  • @Mark James
    Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can't Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey's 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia's relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it's her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn't do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary's gross negligence doesn't mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn't work that way.
    I'm sorry you feel affected by censorship but it's hard for any media outlets-- except "Fox"-- to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall -- a la Nicolae Ceaușescu-- when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

    Yawn.

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  • Your article seemed otherwise good, but lacked any humor early on to keep me reading. After all, it is 6000 words! I have a job, family, obligations, other readings,and only so much thinking energy in a day. I think You might try shortening such articles to maybe 2000 – 3000 words? Like I said though, You did present some good ideas.

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  • Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters! The problem for people like Mr Lauria that, by blindly peddling simplistic propaganda, he discredits himself. Even if every word he said was true, the simplistic and manipulative style he uses means that no one will believe him. Everything starts from a childish, primary school playground mentality: if it’s done by my pals, it has to be good. If it’s done to my pals, it has to be bad”. Then, America is defined as automatically bad and “not-America” is defined as automatically good for no reason other than that it is “not-America”. Such transparent propaganda fools nobody! Thus, when the US speaks about Syria, it’s “obviously” a pack of lies, when Putin speaks on the same subject it’s, equally “obviously”, the unvarnished truth. Does Mr Lauria really think that readers are going to swallow such obvious bias uncritically?
    As for RT, I have no idea what Americans may or may not have been kept from hearing. I am not American. I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station. It consists essentially of boring American nonentities conducting boring interviews with boring American nonentities about domestic American political subjects from the same simplistic perspective I mentioned above: “America bad, not-America good”. “Not-America” in this case is, of course, St. Vladimir the Munificent (praised be his holy name)! Thus, I can assure Americans that they’re not missing anything if they haven’t got RT! The propaganda is so childishly transparent that no one could be fooled.
    Of course, the same can be said of most US websites as well.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Great post!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you
    , @Vidi

    blindly peddling simplistic propaganda
     
    OK, give some evidence that Lauria's overall point is false. I doubt you can. Like the mainstream media, you feel you don't need evidence to sling some serious accusations at someone.

    You remind me of the people who incited the witch hunts in Salem, which caused many women to be burnt to death on practically zero evidence. That was four hundred years ago. Nothing like progress, right?
    , @Aspen Tingleblot
    Assuming you get paid by how many responses you generate, I'll add mine so you have something to spend on yourself at Christmas.
    To some people, truth is an enemy. A thing to rebuke, obfuscate and defer from. The more you write, the less you say.
    Buy yourself a candle
    , @Skeptikal
    Per Michael Kenny, "Flynn’s evidence is certainly scaring Putin’s American supporters!"
    Really?
    Like, why?
    What scares "Putin's supporters" is the same as what scares "sanity supporters."
    No doubt Americans support Putin because they have access to other info than the drivel from the American MSM and TV. Consequently, they know that Putin is the greatest statesman alive on the planet today and wish that our "democratic" system could put in place a similar leader. I wonder whom in the American firmament (;-) Michael Kenny nominates for that spot of "best world leader" or even "good enough." Trump? Hillary Clinton? Obama? Paul Ryan? John McCain? Lindsey Graham? Al Franken?????
    Bwa ha ha.
    , @Anon
    "I live in my native Europe. I have RT on my cable and I can certify that it is a pro-Putin propaganda station."
    -- Why have you been suffering the RT? -- Are you paid for watching it? The readers of the Unz review do not bother to attend to MSM because that would be the waste of tme, but you seem to be very attentive to RT and spend a lot of time on RT side. By the way, even the former director of the CIA Michael Morell went to speak on RT. Have you noticed? Is Morell a propagandist for Putin?
    On a point of bias, your posts are consistently pro-Israel (pro-ziocon). They are not pro-USA. And they are not pro-EU. The readers of both Unz Review and consortiumnews.com have identified you, on numerous accosaions, as a dishonest propagandist. And yet you continue coming on the sites with your fact-free silly statements and zocon opinions. Take a break already.
    Here are some facts (FACTS) for you: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps
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  • Bias MSM. Censorship. These are affirmative sins of insecurity eventually leading to desperation, resulting in dictatorship.

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  • My “Reply” button seems not to be working. This is in respose to CT a#11, who correctly states,

    “It is worse than censorship. History, via web searches, are being deleted.” (blockquote button not functioning either.)

    Or worse, fabricated, which is a classic way “history” has always been presented. The ancients were well aware of it, but somehow we lost our ability to determine the difference between lies and reality. There is a popular online “encyclopedia” that is obviously notorious for fake history.

    Moral.: Question everything. Especially if some “authority” is the source.

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  • @cowardly troll
    It is worse than censorship. History, via web searches, are being deleted. Now, you have no hint what is missing. Example, in 1999 I read an article in a weekly tech newspaper - maybe Information Week - about university researchers who discovered that 64 bit encrypted phones were only using the first 56 bits and the last 8 were zeros. They suspected that the US government was responsible. Cannot find any reference to that online.

    Example, in 1999 I read an article in a weekly tech newspaper – maybe Information Week – about university researchers who discovered that 64 bit encrypted phones were only using the first 56 bits and the last 8 were zeros.

    If you read source code, you will find other cases of security being compromised by coding “errors”. This is why we are being pushed into accepting proprietary code.

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    Two points:

    (1) Orwell's memory hole is real, and if you have a memory of something, but no web page to back it up, you cannot convince someone .

    (2) A former government contractor says that the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation installed a number of back doors into the encryption software used by the OpenBSD operating system.

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/fbi-accused-of-planting-backdoor-in-openbsd-ipsec-stack/
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/213751/former_contractor_says_fbi_put_back_door_in_openbsd.html


    No word from Wikileaks or the Linux community about CIA hack:
    https://sputniknews.com/science/201703071051349744-cia-anti-viruses-wikileaks/
    The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) found different ways to penetrate the defenses set up by various well-known anti-virus programs, the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website said Tuesday.

    According to the document, the CIA also devised malware targeting Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, Linux and other operating systems.
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  • Sorry, mods, accidental button-pressing, thanks for deleting it, later one up is what I was wanting to posting.

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  • We’re witnessing a huge closing of the American Liberal secular mind. There used to be secular liberal hard copy magazines like the Atlantic Magazine that published intelligent well written articles and commentary about foreign affairs, immigration, Islam from a principled secular, Liberal perspective – especially in the early 1990s.

    That’s pretty much gone now as The Atlantic is mostly just a blog that puts out the party line. There are still, thankfully a few exceptions like

    Graeme Wood’s “What ISIS Really Wants”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

    The Atlantic Magazine still allows a lot of free speech in the comment section, except in cases like articles written by the Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    We try to use humor to deflate the humorless PC Lib Left thought police and the go alongs to get along in the Cuckservative, Conservative Inc.

    Here’s one of our/Farstar cartoons just noticing that too many people are just parroting CNN nonsense about Russian conspiracies.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/06/16/farstar-returns-parroting-the-tv-the-russians-are-behind-everything/jpg-parrot/

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  • It is an interesting article.

    I am curious about the ’17 intellience agencies’
    thing, CIA., FBI, NSA, army and navy
    intel units, well that is making five or so. The latter two would likely having no connection with checking the ‘Russia was hacking the election’, likewise, air force sigint (which they obviously need and have).

    So, a list from a poster who is expert on the topic, what are the seventeen agencies which were agreeing on vicious Vlad having ‘hacked’ poor Hillary’s campaign?

    Is anybody knowing?

    This is a very real, good, and serious question, from me, and have not seeing it before. Can anybody producing a list of the seventeen agencies? Parodic replies welcome, but it would be of interest to many if somebody could making a list of the seventeen lurching about in Hillary’s addled mind.

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  • Joe Lauria may very well be a “victim”, but certainly not one that I would parade around as some USDA table grade poster child victim of really egregious reprisals. He’s a veteran in the establishment MSM milieu and certainly knew what kind of a shit bird operation it is that he chose to attempt to publish his piece in.

    Oh, lest I forget to mention, he didn’t lose his livelihood, get ejected from his gym, have his country club membership revoked, get banned from AirB&B ad nauseum.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Your post is exactly what I wanted to write. Saved me the effort. I figured out the MSM was nothing but lies around 1966. I have no sympathy for any MSM journalist.
    , @Anon
    "Oh, lest I forget to mention, he didn’t lose his livelihood.."
    We sure could detect a high level of irritation on your part. It seems that the direction the Russiagate is taking is against your desires.
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  • It is worse than censorship. History, via web searches, are being deleted. Now, you have no hint what is missing. Example, in 1999 I read an article in a weekly tech newspaper – maybe Information Week – about university researchers who discovered that 64 bit encrypted phones were only using the first 56 bits and the last 8 were zeros. They suspected that the US government was responsible. Cannot find any reference to that online.

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    Example, in 1999 I read an article in a weekly tech newspaper – maybe Information Week – about university researchers who discovered that 64 bit encrypted phones were only using the first 56 bits and the last 8 were zeros.
     
    If you read source code, you will find other cases of security being compromised by coding "errors". This is why we are being pushed into accepting proprietary code.
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  • Thank you for your steadfastness, honesty, courage and determination.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Despite this support from independent media, a senior official at Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, I learned, declined to take up my cause because he believes in the Russia-gate story. I also learned that a senior officer at the American Civil Liberties Union rejected my case because he too believes in Russia-gate. Both of these serious organizations were set up precisely to defend individuals in such situations on principle, not preference.

    I’m not even sure that they believe in Russia-gate. This could easily be cowardice or corruption. The globalists have poured untold millions into “fixing” the Internet wrongthink so it’s only natural that we’re seeing results. I’m seeing “grassroots” shilling everywhere, for instance.

    This is not going to work for them. You can’t force consent of the governed. The more you squeeze, the more sand slips through your fingers.

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    You can’t force consent of the governed.
     
    Since when has consent got anything to do with it?
    , @Anon
    "I’m not even sure that they believe in Russia-gate. This could easily be cowardice or corruption."
    On point!
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  • “The viewpoints of Iranians, Palestinians, Russians, North Koreans and others are never fully reported in the Western media although the supposed mission of journalism is to help citizens understand a frighteningly complex world from multiple points of view” — Joe Lauria

    Lauria’s article is an excellent review of the hydra-headed MSM perversion of political journalism in this era of the PATRIOT Act, with special focus on 2016-2017. With one small exception … that still is worth noting. Namely the inclusion of “North Koreans” along with Palestinians, Russians and Iranians as those whose viewpoints are never represented in the Western media.

    It”s true, of course, that the viewpoints of North Koreans go unreported in MSM, but that’s hardly the “whole truth and nothing but the truth.” The problems confronting any journalist who might endeavor to report on public opinion in North Korea are incomparably more difficult than the problems confronting attempts to report on public opinion in Iran, in Russia or in Palestine. These three “theaters” — so to speak –each with its own challenges, no doubt, should never be conflated with the severe realities of censorship and even forceful thought policing in North Korea.

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    • Replies: @Kweli
    True, the marginalization and exclusion of opinions of many more countries than the list you mention, would probably add up to a substantial percentage of the world's population. When was the last time African, Latin American or many Asian opinions on matters of international import have been reported in the MSM? Forget that many citizens in these countries are better educated and informed than their brainwashed American counterparts. To label the MSM as a source of fake news is to flatter them. The nail in the head is the drivel that the West led by the US promote democracies and human rights while the existence of the UN security council where a handful of permanent members can veto resolutions and skew decisions in favor of the powerful makes that organ the most formidable barrier to global democracy.
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  • ” It’s a story as old as civilization: a wealthy and powerful elite fending off popular unrest by trying to contain knowledge of how the elite gain at the others’ expense, at home and abroad. ”

    This is exactly what Howard Zinn writes.
    Alas it is the same at this side of the Atlantic.

    The British newspaper Guardian was independent, Soros bought it.
    Dutch official ‘news’ is just government propaganda.

    But also most Dutch dicussion sites are severely biased, criticism of Israel is next to impossible.
    And of course the words ‘populist’ and ‘extreme right’ are propaganda words, used for those who oppose mainstream politics: EU, euro, globalisation, unlimited immigration, etc.

    Despite all these measures and censorship, including self censorship, dissident political parties grow stronger and stronger.
    One could see this in the French presidential elections, one sees it in Germany where AfD now is in parliament, the Reichstag, one sees it in Austria, where the nationalist party got about half the votes, one sees it in countries as Poland and Hungary, that want to keep their cultures.
    And of course there is Brexit ‘we want our country back’.

    In the Netherlands the in October 2016 founded party FvD, Forum for Democracy, got two seats in the last elections, but polls show that if now elections were held, it would have some fourteen seats in our parliament of 150.
    The present ruling coalition, led by Rutte, has very narrow margins, both in parliament and what here is called Eerste Kamer.
    Parliament maybe can be seen as House, Eerste Kamer as Senate.
    There is a good chance that at the next Eerste Kamer elections FvD will be able to end the reign of Rutte, who is, in my opinion, just Chairman of the Advance Rutte Foundation, and of course a stiff supporter of Merkel and Brussels.
    Now that the end of Merkel is at the horizon, I’m curious how Rutte will manoevre.

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  • Just because Hillary was a lousy candidate. Why can’t Consortiumnews.com accept the fact that Comey’s 11th hour reopening of the e-mail investigation and Russia’s relentless hacking and disinformation put the nails in her coffin? Yes it’s her fault she lost! But there were additional significant factors: Russia being one.

    She ran a putrid campaign. But she still likely would have won if Comey didn’t do what he did which was in part, a reaction to a potential mutiny at the NY office of the FBI.

    So please acknowledge this Joe. Hillary’s gross negligence doesn’t mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent. It doesn’t work that way.
    I’m sorry you feel affected by censorship but it’s hard for any media outlets– except “Fox”– to be a cheerleader for an organized criminal like Putin. Who some day will be marched out to a wall — a la Nicolae Ceaușescu– when Mother Russia finally tires of letting him rip off hundreds of millions in assets.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Yawn.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330
    , @Aspen Tingleblot
    It A MA Z E S me how some people can read an article without being able to learn the most basic facts presented.
    Wally, you win 1st Prize
    , @Skeptikal
    Mark:
    U sound nuts. You just repeat hypotheticals. You are happy to embrace the position of being evidence-challenged that is the principal target of Lauria's piece.
    Russia and Russian journalists or any others have the right to publish what they want.
    It is called the marketplace of ideas. Freedom of the press.
    People even apparently have the right to publish lies, and then to back down mealy-mouthed and say the lies were a "mistake." Come on.
    American news organizations and others masquerading as news organizations cream their panties to spread "news" in Russia that is critical of Putin and tear down "Russian" values and try to create the preconditions for regime change.
    Russia certainly has the right to do the same here.
    Whether it does or doesn't do so is immaterial. Russian journalists have the right to report on what they see here. The crackdown on RT is a very bad omen.
    This country and its media are getting so effing totalitarian, it is terrifying.
    It is very discouraging to see the ACLU falling into line and becoming part of the "resist" movement. Because they have done a lot of very good work. I have supported the ACLU for years.
    But the ACLU will destroy itself if it caves in to "liberals" and fails to hew to its principles and mission. It cannot be destroyed from the outside, but it can be destroyed from the inside if it lets itself be used as tool by a political faction parading as . . . not sure what these "resist" and Antifa people are parading as.
    , @Anon
    Hey Mark James (is this a new nick for Michael Kenney?), here is your man -- a traitor from a family of traitor: "The man who gave fake “Trump dossier” to John McCain speaks out" http://theduran.com/the-man-who-handed-off-fake-trump-dossier-to-john-mccain-speaks-out/
    "British court records reviewed by Fox News as well as U.S. congressional testimony revealed that Steele was directed and paid at least $168,000 by Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson to push the research that fall to five American media outlets. According to British court documents, Steele met with The New York Times (twice), The Washington Post (twice), CNN, The New Yorker and Yahoo News (twice). “Each of these interviews was conducted in person and with a member of Fusion also present,” according to the records associated with separate civil litigation against Steele and Fusion GPS.
    Three weeks after Trump won the presidential election ... the details were finalized for the dossier hand-off to McCain. British court records state McCain ordered Kramer to get a personal briefing from Steele in Surrey, just outside of London, and then return to Washington, D.C., where Fusion GPS would provide McCain with hard copies.
    In January, McCain officially gave the dossier to the FBI, which already had its own copy from Steele.”

    Comment section: "Doesn't this make McCain guilty of offenses under the Logan act; the very offense that was commonly leveled against Trump and called "collusion" in the press."
    --- True. The Tokyo Rose McCain has been working hard to enhance his image of a traitor for posterity.

    , @Anon
    "Hillary’s gross negligence doesn’t mean Russia is not guilty or Steele is incompetent."
    --- How do you know? More for your weak-minded attempts at evasion: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps
    “A senior Justice Department official demoted last week for concealing his meetings with the men behind the anti-Trump “dossier” had even closer ties to Fusion GPS, the firm responsible for the incendiary document... Nellie H. Ohr, wife of the demoted official, Bruce G. Ohr, was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016. Also notable is the she not only worked for Fusion GPS, but also represented the CIA's "Open Source Works" group in a 2010 "expert working group report on international organized crime" along with Bruce Ohr and Fusion GPS co0founder Glenn Simpson.
    House investigators determined that during the 2016 election, Bruce Ohr met with former MI6 spy Christopher Steele, and shortly after the 2016 election he met with Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS - who commissioned Steele to assemble the dossier.
    Another factor in McCabe's sudden cancellation is a report from The Hill's John Solomon that Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) recently interviewed a retired FBI supervisor who told him he was instructed by Deputy Director Andrew McCabe not to call the 2012 Benghazi attack an act of terrorism when distributing the FBI's findings to the larger intelligence community - despite knowing exactly who conducted the attack. The agent found the instruction concerning because his unit had gathered incontrovertible evidence showing a major al Qaeda figure had directed the attack and the information had already been briefed to President Obama. If true, it means McCabe lied for the Obama administration in a clear, partisan violation of the FBI's mandate to "detect and prosecute crimes against the United States..."
    As Rep. DeSantis told The Hill: "By placing the interests of the Obama administration over the public's interests, the order is yet another data point highlighting the politicization of the FBI."
    The ziocons’ goons are panicking.
    , @Anon
    Hey, ziocon, let's go to the heart of the matter:
    Comment section for http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-12/mccabe-cancels-testimony-something-far-more-sinister-fusion-gps
    "The facts are coming in, and it appears there is a concerted effort to destroy the Presidency of Mr Trump.
    Laws were broken.
    High ranking people committed treason.
    High ranking people committed sedition.
    Criminal conspiracies are still operational.
    The USA is a laughing stock to the entire world.
    Here's my prediction:
    Although Trump understands all the duplicity and corruption of Obama and Clinton, he cannot expose the inherent corruption; it will destroy the nation.
    Trump will allow this investigation to play out as long as the special counsel investigation proceeds.
    The criminal, Mueller, will make a deal with the Patriot, Donald Trump.
    Everything involved with Obama/Hillary Clinton Scandal will be marked as classified; and no one can lay eyes on the information for 100 years or so.
    FUBAR"
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  • But Huffington stepped down as editor in August 2016 and has nothing to do with the site now. It is run by Lydia Polgreen, a former New York Times reporter and editor, who evidently has very different ideas. In April, she completely redesigned the site and renamed it HuffPost.

    Ah, so HuffPo is now a NYT vehicle.

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  • 1. Calculate mean household income using GDP data and US census data
    2. Compare it to median household income…the figure actually published
    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it’s about 90%)
    4. Review definitions of mean and median and ask if you agree that “outlier effect” is an adequate explanation of why we don’t see the mean published or discussed, ever

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    3. Compute how many families make less than the mean (it’s about 90%)

    Not possible. Median income means 50% of households make more, 50% make less.

    It is of course quite possible that the reported median household income numbers are fudged, but you clearly don't understand what median means.

    , @Dan55434
    That's really only a valuable exercise if you view the United States as an economically contiguous nation. It's not, by a long shot.

    It's a collection of relatively economically isolated municipalities. To complicate matters, agricultural municipalities are of an entirely different economic and social nature than urban-town municipalities. But that's a more complicated topic.

    At best, intra-state municipalities find economic relationships at the state level, but I would also argue that making that case for most would be difficult. The mean, then, is only relevant to each municipality.

    Put differently, there are a lot of poor municipalities in this nation. There are a lot of wealthy municipalities in this nation. They really have little to do with one another economically or culturally. Though, the beauty of this country is that the people from poor municipalities, if they work hard and with no small degree of luck, can move to economically and culturally better municipalities.

    Using the economic disparity, nationwide, to make a national political point is about as good as comparing the mean income of the USA to that of Thailand to make a political point. Your measurement is entirely too geographically broad to be economically meaningful. Though, I agree that it makes a nice alarmist headline.

    That being said, comparing economic inequality within a small geographic space can be meaningful. It can reflect quality of life and other arguable inferences.
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  • People believe what they want to. Evidence, or lack thereof, has little to do with it, so censorship, or lack thereof, is largely pointless.

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  • “They don’t jail you for lies. They jail you for truth.”

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is actually illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.

    An obvious admission that the ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

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    The US Congress has passed (will pass more) laws that will brand you and I as Un-American for reading the truth and criticizing government actions. They will call it 'reform'.
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    • Replies: @tjm
    Oh for God's sake, your fake news...

    The news is all propaganda, it has been for decades, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NPR...all of it.
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