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    The 90th Academy Awards ceremony, ostensibly honoring the best films and performances of 2017, will be held Sunday evening at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood. Given that over the past five months the American film industry—and not only the film industry!—has been dominated by a trumped-up sexual misconduct campaign, one expects this will play a...
  • @El Dato
    There are suggestions that some of the Parkland School Shooting Outragettes be nominated:

    Parkland school shooting survivor boasts of snubbing Trump White House invitation

    “I hung up on the White House the other day,” a smiling Hogg said, saying the timing of Trump’s invitation was “very offensive considering the fact that there were funerals the next day, there was mourning we still had to do.

    “I ended on this message with them. I said, ‘We don’t need to listen to President Trump. President Trump needs to listen to the screams of the children and the screams of this nation,’” Hogg said.

    “We appreciate that you are willing to let us rebuild the world that you f****d up,” Kasky added later, after saying he was willing to accept the collective apologies of older generations.
     
    Maybe it's just narcissistic personality disorder?

    El Dato, “outragettes” is superb, thank you.

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  • Change award name from ‘Oscar’ to ‘Weinswine’. Replace current gold statue with a hog made of shit.

    Everyone goes in naked from chin to toe. ‘Men’ and feminists wear pink pussy yarmalukes. The LBJSQS wear each other.

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  • @njguy73
    I'm just waiting for some Hollywood figure to declare that he/she is done with acting for good, and will devote their life to something like:
    - running a charter school to defy teacher unions
    - starting a business that gets the working class working again
    - developing a food co-op

    I'm not holding my breath.

    Charter schools are bull shit. I went to public school. No union. School unions are where and predominantly controlled by …?

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  • @Alden
    You might be right.

    1 Harass Fat Harvey with accusations for a few years.

    2 Scare every HR dept in the country to be hyper vigilant about sex harassment

    3 Fail to find enough evidence to charge
    Fat Harvey with anything including
    indecent exposure.

    4. Allegations against Fat Harvey
    totally disappear from the news.

    5 HRs all over the country decide its
    just too risky to hire White Herero
    Goyim.

    ” HRs all over the country decide its
    just too risky to hire White Herero
    Goyim”

    that doesn’t really make much sense to me.
    There is a strong Jewish cast to all of this. I mean, the perps.
    But of course one is not allowed to say that.
    Although someone has written extensively about this point. Perhaps at the Unz Review.
    I cannot recall.

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  • @Greg Bacon
    Another question on Harvey's rapes is who dropped the dime on him? And why now? Police and DA's from LA to NYC to London have been getting rape and sexual assault reports on Weinstein for decades and didn't do a damn thing, but now they suddenly seem interested?

    And where is that arrest of Harvey promised by NYC and LA DA's?

    Or is Harvey safe, now that green-haired alien SJW headhunters can attack any male with allegations and watch them lose their job?

    Why now?
    Because of Trump.
    He is the real target.

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  • @Greg Bacon

    There are a few worthy films and performances up for awards, The Shape of Water (for best film, for Guillermo del Toro as best director, and for performances by Sally Hawkins, Octavia Spencer and Richard Jenkins),
     
    Watched that film and thought it was rather boring, but if you're into bestiality, then by all means, watch the latest Hollywood freak fest advocating any of a number of their degenerate causes.

    The Oscars is nothing more than a bunch of human peacocks, strutting around in their finest plumes, demanding that us slobs oh and ah their way too costly clothes and lifestyles.

    I agree that The Shape of Water was really, really weird.
    A combo of sex with a lizard and sex with a superhero who is a lizard.
    I know there are folks out there who wondered what would happen is Lois Lane and Superman ever actually got together . . .
    The plot line had little internal consistency or logic.
    Like, why didn’t the guy with the severed fingers go to a doctor to check up on them?
    What was thepoint of his ripping off the fingers when he did?
    Why didn’t the dumb girl take the dumb lizard to the harbor at high tide?
    But wait! How come a lizard whose habitat is the Amazon River needs a saline solution to survive?
    But what happened to that saline solution when Sally Hawkins fills her whole bathroom with water?
    If “Fingers” is right and SuperLizard is “a god,” then why can’t SuperL cure Sally Hawkins’s muteness?
    And what about the utter cliche of the understanding older black woman character?
    Hawkins, Octavia Spencer, Streep—all are reduced to playing themselves over and over again.
    And, by the way, has anyone noticed the “deus ex machina” gambit in this film, in Three Billboreds I mean -boards, in Call Me by Your Name?

    The only really good, honest film among the whole lot was Lady Bird.
    And its “inclusion” theme was far better integrated and character-driven than in the other contenders that I saw.
    Saoirse Ronan (sp?) is a brilliant young actress who can go anywhere that Streep can (in terms of her acting ability), and further, but without the political grandstanding BS. She and the director and writer, Greta Gerwig, deserved to get the prizes.

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  • @El Dato
    There are suggestions that some of the Parkland School Shooting Outragettes be nominated:

    Parkland school shooting survivor boasts of snubbing Trump White House invitation

    “I hung up on the White House the other day,” a smiling Hogg said, saying the timing of Trump’s invitation was “very offensive considering the fact that there were funerals the next day, there was mourning we still had to do.

    “I ended on this message with them. I said, ‘We don’t need to listen to President Trump. President Trump needs to listen to the screams of the children and the screams of this nation,’” Hogg said.

    “We appreciate that you are willing to let us rebuild the world that you f****d up,” Kasky added later, after saying he was willing to accept the collective apologies of older generations.
     
    Maybe it's just narcissistic personality disorder?
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  • As for any challenge to the events of 1950′s communists fear investigations in which the FBI, and police departments responded to the led, fed and prosecutions of US citizens being excessive take note of the following speech by Congress woman Chase. Take note especially of the date . . . 1950. She references the leaks about communist spies —- by the time the hearings rolled around, the matter had been addressed. And while there were certainly more spies, the hearings had little or no impact.

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/margaretchasesmithconscience.html

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  • @Jonathan Mason
    Technically speaking, the movie industry is probably not dying, but it is no longer important or influential in popular culture or thought, and movies have already been made of all the great books as well as a lot of lousy ones, so what we are seeing is the death throes of a once popular form of entertainment that sometimes rose to the level of art.

    I have not seen an Oscar awards ceremony for many years, in fact I probably have never seen one, but might have seen some clips, perhaps. Why would one want to? Since I do not work in the movie or entertainment business, I have no idea what constitutes a good acting performance from a technical point of view--all I can do is say that I kind of like a certain actor in a certain role, like Julie Andrews in Mary Poppins, or Tony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, but I am certainly no judge of whether they were better or worse that other actors in popular movies of the same year. For all I know they may have forgotten their lines and required hundreds of takes.

    In judging everyone has their own standards and perspectives. But if one attends enough or sees enough films, one can may conclude based on their standards, and perspectives there’s a film that stands as the best.

    I thought it was fair game to remake Creature of the Black Lagoon with the antagonist as the protagonist, all well and fine. But the choice to have relations — over the top – even if to make a point. And even with that, the film itself was not all that compelling in too many ways predictable with villainous tropes and innocent misfits —

    —- Hollywood and the entire entertainment industry is powerful and it’s products influential. There is no getting around the nexus between corporate and social agendas. Hollywood is no longer just films. Anymore than news is just news. I think for anyone concerned about the ethos, polity and direction of the US, dismissing the impact of Hollywood is a mistake.

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  • Technically speaking, the movie industry is probably not dying, but it is no longer important or influential in popular culture or thought, and movies have already been made of all the great books as well as a lot of lousy ones, so what we are seeing is the death throes of a once popular form of entertainment that sometimes rose to the level of art.

    I have not seen an Oscar awards ceremony for many years, in fact I probably have never seen one, but might have seen some clips, perhaps. Why would one want to? Since I do not work in the movie or entertainment business, I have no idea what constitutes a good acting performance from a technical point of view–all I can do is say that I kind of like a certain actor in a certain role, like Julie Andrews in Mary Poppins, or Tony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, but I am certainly no judge of whether they were better or worse that other actors in popular movies of the same year. For all I know they may have forgotten their lines and required hundreds of takes.

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    In judging everyone has their own standards and perspectives. But if one attends enough or sees enough films, one can may conclude based on their standards, and perspectives there's a film that stands as the best.

    I thought it was fair game to remake Creature of the Black Lagoon with the antagonist as the protagonist, all well and fine. But the choice to have relations -- over the top - even if to make a point. And even with that, the film itself was not all that compelling in too many ways predictable with villainous tropes and innocent misfits ---

    ---- Hollywood and the entire entertainment industry is powerful and it's products influential. There is no getting around the nexus between corporate and social agendas. Hollywood is no longer just films. Anymore than news is just news. I think for anyone concerned about the ethos, polity and direction of the US, dismissing the impact of Hollywood is a mistake.
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  • “Nobody moves, nobody gets hurt! You will be released after the regime meets our demands!”

    ~Oscars speech I’m holding out for.

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  • @Ivy
    The heartfelt tribute to veterans was so well received that the thunderous applause is still echoing through the theatre. The respect evident in those faces should translate into box office boffo next year, especially for the target audience of new Americans. If you got up close to the screen, you could almost feel the sincerity.

    I have thought about this. When I first read this comment, I winced. And a day later, I remain unconvinced. I don’t buy that Hollywood is useless. In general Hollywood and I, are miles apart on nearly every issue. And while I would defend Ms Redgrave’s right to an opinion, a defense of her talent, does not mean agreement with her politics.

    With respect to the military tribute, I found it politically motivated. Even a bit shrift in content. They paid tribute to films about the military, but hardly the military itself.

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  • @grapesoda
    I'm sorry the boys never asked you to the dance, but in retrospect it was the right choice because you probably would have tried to cut their **** off

    I guess the sarcasm and parody of a gun control meme was too subtle.

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  • Ivy says:
    @RobinG
    Right, and this year they've nominated "Last Men in Aleppo," another US/NATO funded White Helmets entry. There should be a category for mind-numbing propaganda, which is what these psy-ops deserve.

    The heartfelt tribute to veterans was so well received that the thunderous applause is still echoing through the theatre. The respect evident in those faces should translate into box office boffo next year, especially for the target audience of new Americans. If you got up close to the screen, you could almost feel the sincerity.

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    I have thought about this. When I first read this comment, I winced. And a day later, I remain unconvinced. I don't buy that Hollywood is useless. In general Hollywood and I, are miles apart on nearly every issue. And while I would defend Ms Redgrave's right to an opinion, a defense of her talent, does not mean agreement with her politics.

    With respect to the military tribute, I found it politically motivated. Even a bit shrift in content. They paid tribute to films about the military, but hardly the military itself.
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  • @RobinG
    "What odious depths of conformism and cowardice there are in Hollywood!"

    And complicity. They pump out CIA approved or commissioned storylines, and the demonizing of various cultures and ideologies. Also the small screen, where "24" was developed explicitly to condition 'Murkans to accept our use of torture.

    VANESSA REDGRAVE and an OSCAR to Remember...

    A winner denouncing the sexual witch hunt is almost as likely as publicly decrying the Zionist chokehold on the film industry. Forty years ago, pro-Israel zealots tried to shut out Vanessa Redgrave. Members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest her involvement in the 1977 documentary film, The Palestinian.

    Upon winning, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having “refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums..." But her remarks were condemned, and the destructive effect on her career was a clear warning to others.

    I in my view, Vanessa Redgrave had the last laugh and continues to laugh (not literally) to this day . . .

    Her legacy is ensured by her talent, performances and indelible fighting spirit.
    ________________

    The difference between the political issues and “Metoo” is the potential criminal charges and perhaps even more damaging is the taint of personal indiscretion . . .

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  • @LarryS
    Hollywood needs "gun" control. Ban assault penises.

    Men without penises raped zero women today.

    I’m sorry the boys never asked you to the dance, but in retrospect it was the right choice because you probably would have tried to cut their **** off

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    I guess the sarcasm and parody of a gun control meme was too subtle.
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  • “What odious depths of conformism and cowardice there are in Hollywood!”

    And complicity. They pump out CIA approved or commissioned storylines, and the demonizing of various cultures and ideologies. Also the small screen, where “24″ was developed explicitly to condition ‘Murkans to accept our use of torture.

    VANESSA REDGRAVE and an OSCAR to Remember…

    A winner denouncing the sexual witch hunt is almost as likely as publicly decrying the Zionist chokehold on the film industry. Forty years ago, pro-Israel zealots tried to shut out Vanessa Redgrave. Members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest her involvement in the 1977 documentary film, The Palestinian.

    Upon winning, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having “refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums…” But her remarks were condemned, and the destructive effect on her career was a clear warning to others.

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    I in my view, Vanessa Redgrave had the last laugh and continues to laugh (not literally) to this day . . .

    Her legacy is ensured by her talent, performances and indelible fighting spirit.
    ________________


    The difference between the political issues and "Metoo" is the potential criminal charges and perhaps even more damaging is the taint of personal indiscretion . . .
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  • @Jonathan Mason
    Next year's Best Picture winner will probably be called something like #MeNext a bodice-ripping story of plucky young actresses forced to submit to the lecherous advances of a Fagin-like movie producer in order to win Oscar-winning ingenue roles like Mary Poppins and Maria von Trapp.

    This ensemble-cast movie musical will be somewhat controversial due to featuring both nude scenes involving all the famous actresses of last 100 years and many well-choreographed song and dance numbers such as I'd Do Anything, Do-Me-Dear, Younger Than Springtime, and Big Boys Don't Cry.

    And the Fagin-like movie producer will probably be a Gentile.
    Hollywood couldn’t tell the truth if it had to do so.

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  • They’re all Leftists. Just as they wish a person like me ill, I wish them all ill.
    I don’t care what happens to any of them.
    But wait, I’m sure someone will answer with the famous quote, “First they came for the X and I did not care, because I was not an X.”
    Well cram it with walnuts ugly. They’re already coming for me. I don’t use a pseudonym for no reason. I’m happy to have someone else pursued for a bit. Maybe I can get some rest.

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  • Ricky Gervais would be the man for the job.

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  • Next year’s Best Picture winner will probably be called something like #MeNext a bodice-ripping story of plucky young actresses forced to submit to the lecherous advances of a Fagin-like movie producer in order to win Oscar-winning ingenue roles like Mary Poppins and Maria von Trapp.

    This ensemble-cast movie musical will be somewhat controversial due to featuring both nude scenes involving all the famous actresses of last 100 years and many well-choreographed song and dance numbers such as I’d Do Anything, Do-Me-Dear, Younger Than Springtime, and Big Boys Don’t Cry.

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    And the Fagin-like movie producer will probably be a Gentile.
    Hollywood couldn't tell the truth if it had to do so.
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  • @RobinG
    Right, and this year they've nominated "Last Men in Aleppo," another US/NATO funded White Helmets entry. There should be a category for mind-numbing propaganda, which is what these psy-ops deserve.

    Thanks for the info Robin. When this Empire of terror in the west ends, the Nulandberg trials should begin. This Oscar “show” flimflam and many like them should be brought to justice at these trials for supporting crimes against humanity.

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  • @Z-man

    "...whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression."
     
    I would be wearing a black shirt in honor of my fascist/nationalist forbearers. (Grin)

    I’d wear a huge crucifix, not just a cross and madonnas embroidered on a big white skirt.

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  • Oh my – the Jew dominate sexual cesspool of Hollywood is crying “victim.”

    Too Funny!

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  • 500 armed city police officers are guarding the Dolby theater to guard these anti gun activists.
    They can’t draw them from the regular roster and leave the rest of the city without cops.

    So the taxpayers are paying them all overtime to work on their regular day off

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  • @Z-man
    If in the unlikely case that my fine scrip ever gets made into a movie and the even longer shot that I'm the winner of the original screenplay award I would come in with a black shirt and tie under tuxedo with a Palestinian flag scarfed around my neck and after thanking my mother and the people helping me get the movie done say something like...'My handlers have advised me to be politically correct but I cant help but say 'Free Palestine'...and thanks for the award, go see it, it's a great movie. (Grin)

    I’d send Randy Weaver whose wife and 14 year old son along with some others were murdered by a coalition of FBI ATFE scum because he modified a gun to accept my award.

    I don’t know much about guns. I think all he did was move a screw at the behest of an undercover ATFE POS.

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  • @RobinG
    When Vanessa Redgrave was nominated for an Oscar in 1978 for her role in Julia, members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest against her involvement in The Palestinian, [a documentary film, funded and narrated by Redgrave, about the situation of the Palestinians and the activities of the PLO].

    Redgrave's performance in Julia received an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. Accepting the award, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having "refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums – whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression.

    One biographer noted that "The scandal of her awards speech and the negative press it occasioned had a destructive effect on her acting opportunities that would last for years to come."

    “…whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression.”

    I would be wearing a black shirt in honor of my fascist/nationalist forbearers. (Grin)

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    I’d wear a huge crucifix, not just a cross and madonnas embroidered on a big white skirt.
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  • @RobinG
    When Vanessa Redgrave was nominated for an Oscar in 1978 for her role in Julia, members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest against her involvement in The Palestinian, [a documentary film, funded and narrated by Redgrave, about the situation of the Palestinians and the activities of the PLO].

    Redgrave's performance in Julia received an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. Accepting the award, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having "refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums – whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression.

    One biographer noted that "The scandal of her awards speech and the negative press it occasioned had a destructive effect on her acting opportunities that would last for years to come."

    Never go up against Big Joo and his (oh no absolutely are not at all) fascist-mystic thugs.

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  • @Z-man
    If in the unlikely case that my fine scrip ever gets made into a movie and the even longer shot that I'm the winner of the original screenplay award I would come in with a black shirt and tie under tuxedo with a Palestinian flag scarfed around my neck and after thanking my mother and the people helping me get the movie done say something like...'My handlers have advised me to be politically correct but I cant help but say 'Free Palestine'...and thanks for the award, go see it, it's a great movie. (Grin)

    When Vanessa Redgrave was nominated for an Oscar in 1978 for her role in Julia, members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest against her involvement in The Palestinian, [a documentary film, funded and narrated by Redgrave, about the situation of the Palestinians and the activities of the PLO].

    Redgrave’s performance in Julia received an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. Accepting the award, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having “refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums – whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression.

    One biographer noted that “The scandal of her awards speech and the negative press it occasioned had a destructive effect on her acting opportunities that would last for years to come.”

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    Never go up against Big Joo and his (oh no absolutely are not at all) fascist-mystic thugs.
    , @Z-man

    "...whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression."
     
    I would be wearing a black shirt in honor of my fascist/nationalist forbearers. (Grin)
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  • If in the unlikely case that my fine scrip ever gets made into a movie and the even longer shot that I’m the winner of the original screenplay award I would come in with a black shirt and tie under tuxedo with a Palestinian flag scarfed around my neck and after thanking my mother and the people helping me get the movie done say something like…’My handlers have advised me to be politically correct but I cant help but say ‘Free Palestine’…and thanks for the award, go see it, it’s a great movie. (Grin)

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    When Vanessa Redgrave was nominated for an Oscar in 1978 for her role in Julia, members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), led by Rabbi Meir Kahane, burned effigies of Redgrave and picketed the Academy Awards ceremony to protest against her involvement in The Palestinian, [a documentary film, funded and narrated by Redgrave, about the situation of the Palestinians and the activities of the PLO].

    Redgrave's performance in Julia received an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. Accepting the award, Redgrave thanked Hollywood for having "refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums – whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and to their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression.

    One biographer noted that "The scandal of her awards speech and the negative press it occasioned had a destructive effect on her acting opportunities that would last for years to come."
    , @Alden
    I’d send Randy Weaver whose wife and 14 year old son along with some others were murdered by a coalition of FBI ATFE scum because he modified a gun to accept my award.

    I don’t know much about guns. I think all he did was move a screw at the behest of an undercover ATFE POS.
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  • That said,

    Goodbye David Ogden Stiers, and condolences to his family and co-workers. And appreciate your volume of work — that survives you in very good stead.

    excuse the add on.

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  • Corey Feldman names names of Hollywood pedophiles:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2483502/Corey-Feldman-told-cops-molested-named-abusers-did-nothing.html

    Child actor Corey Feldman told police he was molested and who his abusers were more than 20 years ago but they did nothing about it, it was claimed today.

    The Goonies actor has opened up about the sexual abuse he suffered for years at the hands of ‘older men in Hollywood’ after his book Coreyography was released recently.

    In the book, Feldman recalls his often twisted friendship with fellow child star Corey Haim and how the pair were told by trusted adults that it was normal for older men and young boys to have sexual relations in the industry.

    He named their abusers as Ron, Tony, Burnham and Crimson — all pseudonyms.

    Comment: bet you won’t ever hear any Oscar winners feigning outrage about their
    Hollywood industry friends who are also pedophile queer boys.

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  • Note, I have not watched an Oscar events in more than 17 years save when my housemate calls me to see something in her opinion of note —

    and as routine, the In Memoriums.

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  • @Greg Bacon
    The Oscars, where people who have sexually assaulted women for 100 years will lecture you about women's rights and about guns as they are surrounded by heavily armed security and a phalanx of taxpayer funded cops.

    BTW, why doesn't aL CIA Duh or ISIS--Israeli Secret Intelligence Services--ever attack these target rich environment ceremonies?

    Or Pussy Riot, which likes to blaspheme churches and mosques, but never synagogues?

    Guess I better shut up before Mr. Unz gets a visit from the Google Thought Police Dept.

    The FBI did that in the 1950′s with a vengeance. Hence the reference to that period.

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  • I have spent a good number of past tears gauging my choices of performances, music, screen plays, films, etc were the best of the previous tears faire. i found it interesting, fun, funny, irritating enlightening and ever rocked with controversy. But as disconcerting as the “meetoo” advances along with its various tentacles.

    While the Oscars during the later part of our involvement with Vietnam were issues. Probably Oscar event had as much salience to actual impact on lives as that which occurred during the 1950′s and its communists concerns. And i think the parallel appropriate. What gives it salience is the actual purging of that used a wide net based on rumor, , lies, false accusation, unsupported supposition and most importantly criminalize behaviors which were not criminal. In other words, being a communist, even if accurate was not against the law. And there why the reference to the Sen McCarthy hearings matter. The number of people treated as criminals for noncriminal behavior should be disconcerting to everyone. Further complicating those hears is the fact that by the time the Senator pressed for investigations, the actual spies had already been uncovered and dealt with.

    Because the Venona decryption made such information readily available. Interesting enough two women played a key role in uncovering the matter.

    One woman worked inside the CIA as a decoder.

    The second involves a story than run like . . . a Russian spy who’s counterpart and husband(?) passed away and his passing resulted in a drop in financial support by the Russians. The wife, disappointed, frustrated and angry simply walked into the office of the FBI and gave the entire matter up. With the information that followed, the spy operation was uncovered. Most of the spies operated in the Treasury department, so numerous that they occasionally ran into each other.

    So while Sen McCarthy was correct, his gambit was late and succeeding in a very tawdry affair with little actual value, but did damage the lives of citizens without cause. The scare was anticlimactic to actual events. I have no doubt that there is some misbehavior worthy of accountability — but the current scare may be far more damaging that what it seeks to redress. Hence the reasonable “McCarthy era” reference.

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  • @Robjil
    Not worth watching, it is just a political show for the deep state agenda. The "award" given last year to the US/west deep state terrorists - White Helmets shows the true colors of this charade.

    Right, and this year they’ve nominated “Last Men in Aleppo,” another US/NATO funded White Helmets entry. There should be a category for mind-numbing propaganda, which is what these psy-ops deserve.

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    Thanks for the info Robin. When this Empire of terror in the west ends, the Nulandberg trials should begin. This Oscar "show" flimflam and many like them should be brought to justice at these trials for supporting crimes against humanity.
    , @Ivy
    The heartfelt tribute to veterans was so well received that the thunderous applause is still echoing through the theatre. The respect evident in those faces should translate into box office boffo next year, especially for the target audience of new Americans. If you got up close to the screen, you could almost feel the sincerity.
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  • Hollywood needs “gun” control. Ban assault penises.

    Men without penises raped zero women today.

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    I'm sorry the boys never asked you to the dance, but in retrospect it was the right choice because you probably would have tried to cut their **** off
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  • Did this fictional speaker just portray Roman Polanski as a victim?

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  • Another brilliant article from David Walsh on this latest plague of hysteria sweeping the nation.

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  • The Oscars, where people who have sexually assaulted women for 100 years will lecture you about women’s rights and about guns as they are surrounded by heavily armed security and a phalanx of taxpayer funded cops.

    BTW, why doesn’t aL CIA Duh or ISIS–Israeli Secret Intelligence Services–ever attack these target rich environment ceremonies?

    Or Pussy Riot, which likes to blaspheme churches and mosques, but never synagogues?

    Guess I better shut up before Mr. Unz gets a visit from the Google Thought Police Dept.

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    The FBI did that in the 1950's with a vengeance. Hence the reference to that period.
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  • @Alden
    How about ignoring the whole beyond boring POS? I watched the first few minutes a couple times when I was in college. But I got bored left and read a book.

    Why watch??? Its incredible boring. And who cares? It’s not like you have a bet on it like a football team. So who cares?

    That speech is as bad as the Oscar speeches. “straight jacket of the unions”? Other than affirmative action government unions, what unions??

    McCarthy? He was absolutely, totally correct and a martyr to the truth.

    It was only the cooperation of the southern KKK and the northern anti commie labor unions that got rid of FDR’s commie VP Henry Wallace and rammed through Truman as the 4th term VP just months before FDR’s death.

    Unfortunately the commies just laid low
    till their children grew up and LBJ became President.

    What is unusual about the above speech is that it only talks about workers in general, no caterwauling about women minorities and illegal immigrants and how eeeeevvvvvviiiillllll Whitey keeps them down.

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  • How about ignoring the whole beyond boring POS? I watched the first few minutes a couple times when I was in college. But I got bored left and read a book.

    Why watch??? Its incredible boring. And who cares? It’s not like you have a bet on it like a football team. So who cares?

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    That speech is as bad as the Oscar speeches. “straight jacket of the unions”? Other than affirmative action government unions, what unions??

    McCarthy? He was absolutely, totally correct and a martyr to the truth.

    It was only the cooperation of the southern KKK and the northern anti commie labor unions that got rid of FDR’s commie VP Henry Wallace and rammed through Truman as the 4th term VP just months before FDR’s death.

    Unfortunately the commies just laid low
    till their children grew up and LBJ became President.

    What is unusual about the above speech is that it only talks about workers in general, no caterwauling about women minorities and illegal immigrants and how eeeeevvvvvviiiillllll Whitey keeps them down.
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  • @Buzz Mohawk
    Naturally an article republished from something called "World Socialist Web Site" contains the following reinforcement of the familiar "McCarthyite purges" myth:

    What began with Weinstein has become a full-scale witch-hunt, in some ways more pernicious than the McCarthyite purges of the late 1940s and 1950s.

    Individuals have been essentially criminalized and ‘disappeared’ on the basis of unsubstantiated, often anonymous accusations. Some of our more talented and intriguing performers have had their careers destroyed.
     
    When the truth is:

    Over the last 20 years, John Earl Haynes, Harvey Klehr, and other scholars have conclusively established that many dozens or even hundreds of Soviet agents once honeycombed the key policy staffs and nuclear research facilities of our federal government, constituting a total presence perhaps approaching the scale suggested by Sen. Joseph McCarthy, whose often unsubstantiated charges tended to damage the credibility of his position.

    -- from Our American Pravda, by Ron Unz
     

    Once more Ron, heartfelt thanks for bring the truth about the communist infiltration in our government mid 20th century.

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  • @Greg Bacon

    There are a few worthy films and performances up for awards, The Shape of Water (for best film, for Guillermo del Toro as best director, and for performances by Sally Hawkins, Octavia Spencer and Richard Jenkins),
     
    Watched that film and thought it was rather boring, but if you're into bestiality, then by all means, watch the latest Hollywood freak fest advocating any of a number of their degenerate causes.

    The Oscars is nothing more than a bunch of human peacocks, strutting around in their finest plumes, demanding that us slobs oh and ah their way too costly clothes and lifestyles.

    The clothes are borrowed and just taped, not even pinned to fit.

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  • @AreBe
    Doesn't matter where the article was originally published. It's dead on. Seeing Meryl Streep speaking for Clinton at the Democratic convention was the ultimate in stomach turning hypocricy.

    She has to repay the Democrat Hollywood cabal for giving her all those oscars and nominations

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  • @Greg Bacon
    Another question on Harvey's rapes is who dropped the dime on him? And why now? Police and DA's from LA to NYC to London have been getting rape and sexual assault reports on Weinstein for decades and didn't do a damn thing, but now they suddenly seem interested?

    And where is that arrest of Harvey promised by NYC and LA DA's?

    Or is Harvey safe, now that green-haired alien SJW headhunters can attack any male with allegations and watch them lose their job?

    You might be right.

    1 Harass Fat Harvey with accusations for a few years.

    2 Scare every HR dept in the country to be hyper vigilant about sex harassment

    3 Fail to find enough evidence to charge
    Fat Harvey with anything including
    indecent exposure.

    4. Allegations against Fat Harvey
    totally disappear from the news.

    5 HRs all over the country decide its
    just too risky to hire White Herero
    Goyim.

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    " HRs all over the country decide its
    just too risky to hire White Herero
    Goyim"

    that doesn't really make much sense to me.
    There is a strong Jewish cast to all of this. I mean, the perps.
    But of course one is not allowed to say that.
    Although someone has written extensively about this point. Perhaps at the Unz Review.
    I cannot recall.
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  • Oh hell! But they are one of the few remaining entities that bring back some money into the country.

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  • @mark green
    Walsh makes some good points here. But he attempts to cover too much ground. Hollywood hypocrisy is too vast a subject for one imaginary speech. Thanx for trying though.

    But this 'witch hunt' (like the so-called 'red scare' of yesteryear) is not based on just a 'right wing' fantasy. Right wing?

    In fact, commie subversives were real back in the 50's just as sexual predators in Hollywood are real today. Let's get that straight. Unfortunately, many decent celebrities have been damaged by the overreach of today's feminist-enabled backlash. So let's place blame where it belongs: on the liberal media and the feminist zeitgeist.

    Further, some of these 'witches' (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein) are real. They deserve punishment, even it's just public humiliation.

    What we have here is another liberal movement (feminism) turning on its enablers. Yes, it's gotten out of hand. No question. But it couldn't happen to a more deserving industry.

    Another question on Harvey’s rapes is who dropped the dime on him? And why now? Police and DA’s from LA to NYC to London have been getting rape and sexual assault reports on Weinstein for decades and didn’t do a damn thing, but now they suddenly seem interested?

    And where is that arrest of Harvey promised by NYC and LA DA’s?

    Or is Harvey safe, now that green-haired alien SJW headhunters can attack any male with allegations and watch them lose their job?

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    You might be right.

    1 Harass Fat Harvey with accusations for a few years.

    2 Scare every HR dept in the country to be hyper vigilant about sex harassment

    3 Fail to find enough evidence to charge
    Fat Harvey with anything including
    indecent exposure.

    4. Allegations against Fat Harvey
    totally disappear from the news.

    5 HRs all over the country decide its
    just too risky to hire White Herero
    Goyim.
    , @Skeptikal
    Why now?
    Because of Trump.
    He is the real target.
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  • Walsh makes some good points here. But he attempts to cover too much ground. Hollywood hypocrisy is too vast a subject for one imaginary speech. Thanx for trying though.

    But this ‘witch hunt’ (like the so-called ‘red scare’ of yesteryear) is not based on just a ‘right wing’ fantasy. Right wing?

    In fact, commie subversives were real back in the 50′s just as sexual predators in Hollywood are real today. Let’s get that straight. Unfortunately, many decent celebrities have been damaged by the overreach of today’s feminist-enabled backlash. So let’s place blame where it belongs: on the liberal media and the feminist zeitgeist.

    Further, some of these ‘witches’ (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein) are real. They deserve punishment, even it’s just public humiliation.

    What we have here is another liberal movement (feminism) turning on its enablers. Yes, it’s gotten out of hand. No question. But it couldn’t happen to a more deserving industry.

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    Another question on Harvey's rapes is who dropped the dime on him? And why now? Police and DA's from LA to NYC to London have been getting rape and sexual assault reports on Weinstein for decades and didn't do a damn thing, but now they suddenly seem interested?

    And where is that arrest of Harvey promised by NYC and LA DA's?

    Or is Harvey safe, now that green-haired alien SJW headhunters can attack any male with allegations and watch them lose their job?
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  • Not worth watching, it is just a political show for the deep state agenda. The “award” given last year to the US/west deep state terrorists – White Helmets shows the true colors of this charade.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Right, and this year they've nominated "Last Men in Aleppo," another US/NATO funded White Helmets entry. There should be a category for mind-numbing propaganda, which is what these psy-ops deserve.
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  • Fine speech what time is it on again?

    If someone did have the guts to say it, bet the only fragment you would see on the MSM news is an edited version of the paragraph which starts “Well forgive me if I don’t take part in this well-promoted bravery…..I’ll stick my neck out and say some (accusations) are lies self-serving outright lies” (accompanied by loud boos)

    As Trollope put it ‘Its the way we live now’

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  • @renfro
    This article is 1,250 words too long. I was about to say it sounds like an outraged high schooler.......you know, the long and louder I yell...about everything type.

    Then I noticed this....Republished from World Socialist Web Site and that explained it.

    Doesn’t matter where the article was originally published. It’s dead on. Seeing Meryl Streep speaking for Clinton at the Democratic convention was the ultimate in stomach turning hypocricy.

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    She has to repay the Democrat Hollywood cabal for giving her all those oscars and nominations
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  • The Oscar Speech We’d Like to Hear Sunday Night

    Members of the world, due to the fact that we have never had anything of value to offer the world, we are pleased to announce that we will remain silent and out of your faces forevermore. Now, go and live life.

    Bye-bye!

    No, I did not read the article.

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  • There are a few worthy films and performances up for awards, The Shape of Water (for best film, for Guillermo del Toro as best director, and for performances by Sally Hawkins, Octavia Spencer and Richard Jenkins),

    Watched that film and thought it was rather boring, but if you’re into bestiality, then by all means, watch the latest Hollywood freak fest advocating any of a number of their degenerate causes.

    The Oscars is nothing more than a bunch of human peacocks, strutting around in their finest plumes, demanding that us slobs oh and ah their way too costly clothes and lifestyles.

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    The clothes are borrowed and just taped, not even pinned to fit.
    , @Skeptikal
    I agree that The Shape of Water was really, really weird.
    A combo of sex with a lizard and sex with a superhero who is a lizard.
    I know there are folks out there who wondered what would happen is Lois Lane and Superman ever actually got together . . .
    The plot line had little internal consistency or logic.
    Like, why didn't the guy with the severed fingers go to a doctor to check up on them?
    What was thepoint of his ripping off the fingers when he did?
    Why didn't the dumb girl take the dumb lizard to the harbor at high tide?
    But wait! How come a lizard whose habitat is the Amazon River needs a saline solution to survive?
    But what happened to that saline solution when Sally Hawkins fills her whole bathroom with water?
    If "Fingers" is right and SuperLizard is "a god," then why can't SuperL cure Sally Hawkins's muteness?
    And what about the utter cliche of the understanding older black woman character?
    Hawkins, Octavia Spencer, Streep---all are reduced to playing themselves over and over again.
    And, by the way, has anyone noticed the "deus ex machina" gambit in this film, in Three Billboreds I mean -boards, in Call Me by Your Name?

    The only really good, honest film among the whole lot was Lady Bird.
    And its "inclusion" theme was far better integrated and character-driven than in the other contenders that I saw.
    Saoirse Ronan (sp?) is a brilliant young actress who can go anywhere that Streep can (in terms of her acting ability), and further, but without the political grandstanding BS. She and the director and writer, Greta Gerwig, deserved to get the prizes.

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  • There are suggestions that some of the Parkland School Shooting Outragettes be nominated:

    Parkland school shooting survivor boasts of snubbing Trump White House invitation

    “I hung up on the White House the other day,” a smiling Hogg said, saying the timing of Trump’s invitation was “very offensive considering the fact that there were funerals the next day, there was mourning we still had to do.

    “I ended on this message with them. I said, ‘We don’t need to listen to President Trump. President Trump needs to listen to the screams of the children and the screams of this nation,’” Hogg said.

    “We appreciate that you are willing to let us rebuild the world that you f****d up,” Kasky added later, after saying he was willing to accept the collective apologies of older generations.

    Maybe it’s just narcissistic personality disorder?

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    I had no idea that the term “Outragettes” is at least 100 years old.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=MzUMR4Sl1zEC&pg=PA185&lpg=PA185&dq=Outragettes&source=bl&ots=YYRnCQ_mLs&sig=IvO9rsd16O5-Fehdl9LcSAu3nTI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiVtuuc69jZAhXo7YMKHZSfDKEQ6AEwA3oECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=Outragettes&f=false
    , @sayless
    El Dato, "outragettes" is superb, thank you.
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  • @renfro
    This article is 1,250 words too long. I was about to say it sounds like an outraged high schooler.......you know, the long and louder I yell...about everything type.

    Then I noticed this....Republished from World Socialist Web Site and that explained it.

    Why do I have the sneaky feeling you worked back from the source to your whining?

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  • @renfro
    This article is 1,250 words too long. I was about to say it sounds like an outraged high schooler.......you know, the long and louder I yell...about everything type.

    Then I noticed this....Republished from World Socialist Web Site and that explained it.

    “I was about to say … Then I noticed…”

    Really?

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  • Naturally an article republished from something called “World Socialist Web Site” contains the following reinforcement of the familiar “McCarthyite purges” myth:

    What began with Weinstein has become a full-scale witch-hunt, in some ways more pernicious than the McCarthyite purges of the late 1940s and 1950s.

    Individuals have been essentially criminalized and ‘disappeared’ on the basis of unsubstantiated, often anonymous accusations. Some of our more talented and intriguing performers have had their careers destroyed.

    When the truth is:

    Over the last 20 years, John Earl Haynes, Harvey Klehr, and other scholars have conclusively established that many dozens or even hundreds of Soviet agents once honeycombed the key policy staffs and nuclear research facilities of our federal government, constituting a total presence perhaps approaching the scale suggested by Sen. Joseph McCarthy, whose often unsubstantiated charges tended to damage the credibility of his position.

    – from Our American Pravda, by Ron Unz

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    Once more Ron, heartfelt thanks for bring the truth about the communist infiltration in our government mid 20th century.
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  • This article is 1,250 words too long. I was about to say it sounds like an outraged high schooler…….you know, the long and louder I yell…about everything type.

    Then I noticed this….Republished from World Socialist Web Site and that explained it.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    "I was about to say ... Then I noticed..."

    Really?
    , @Kingfelix
    Why do I have the sneaky feeling you worked back from the source to your whining?
    , @AreBe
    Doesn't matter where the article was originally published. It's dead on. Seeing Meryl Streep speaking for Clinton at the Democratic convention was the ultimate in stomach turning hypocricy.
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  • I’m just waiting for some Hollywood figure to declare that he/she is done with acting for good, and will devote their life to something like:
    - running a charter school to defy teacher unions
    - starting a business that gets the working class working again
    - developing a food co-op

    I’m not holding my breath.

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    Charter schools are bull shit. I went to public school. No union. School unions are where and predominantly controlled by ...?
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  • The New York Times has been at the forefront of the campaign over sexual misconduct in the entertainment industry in particular, which has now been extended to the political arena (preposterously in the case of Sen. Al Franken). The newspaper has devoted considerable resources and published dozens of articles and “exposés” on the subject since...
  • I think all those groupies who harassed the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and other rock icons should come clean, admit their sexual predations, and resign immediately from their current jobs to loud public condemnation. And I also think The New York Times should expend whatever money and time is necessary to ferret out these social barbarians.

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  • @DaveE
    I offer the simple theory that the NYT is simply trying desperately to regain readership, maybe even credibility, probably in vain.

    Everyone knows Weinstein and his entire Hollyweird Mob are the scum of the earth, and have been since Hollywood was dredged up from Hades. This ain't news. But for the New York Times to actually print something TRUE, well, that is very much NEWS.

    As far as due process goes, a person needs to be charged with a crime and the case prosecuted in court, for "due process" to happen. So, talking about "due process" before ANY "process" has even occurred is simply BS.... a cheap shot at the "anti-Semites" for daring to speak the truth about the scum who run Hollywood.

    At most, the NYT is guilty of tabloid-style innuendo and defamation.

    But, in this case, the defamation is entirely deserved and everyone knows it, even if it hasn't been proven in a court of law (lately).

    In the meantime, Hollywood knows (including the NYT) that gossip and innuendo sells product, bigtime.

    Everyone knows Weinstein and his entire Hollyweird Mob are the scum of the earth, and have been since Hollywood was dredged up from Hades. This ain’t news. But for the New York Times to actually print something TRUE, well, that is very much NEWS.

    Yes, this is very odd. It’s no problem for the MSM to bury this kind of news, as they’ve done it many times before, which sort of suggests that it’s a deliberate attack on Weinstein.

    It looks more like some kind of factional insider fight about something, with Hollywood on one side and the NYT on the other. A don’t believe for a moment that the NYT is genuinely concerned about the wellbeing of the actresses around Harvey.

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  • @Renoman
    The NYT is no better than CNN, just a shit rag.

    Agreed. Let’s do a booming business in selling New York Times toilet paper.

    And it’s obviously an unpleasant subject, but it is true that the New York Times is a very biased, dishonest and hateful, very Jewish News Paper.

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  • @Bischkva
    You are confusing constitutional protections during legal proceedings with behavior by private individuals and observers. Due process is exactly that, consideration and treatment that is *due* or called for under specific circumstances. A company has the right to fire anybody for any type of behavior, real or imagined. It can institute speech or behavior codes for employees that prohibit perfectly legal acts.

    The deeper issue here is how cavalierly we now deem to ruin someone's life based on accusations. Back in Stalin's USSR you could get shot for telling a joke. Today your reputation can be ruined, and all your life's work flushed down the drain, because of what someone says you did decades ago.

    We can be smug when the left cannibalizes blowhards like Garrison Keilor, whose capital offense was putting his hand on some hysterical broad's back. I never thought I'd ever feel sorry for that guy. Actually, my sorrow is for a society that entertains, celebrates even, such madness.

    I have been repeating this refrain most of the week . . .

    Garrison Keelor !!!!!!! Come now.

    As for our country — we have a lot of angry women about the election among other issues and A cohort of avenging angels among various groups — and they intend to purge the country. Even if that means sacrificing Mr Keelor for his embarrassing inability to successfully navigate a woman’s attire, such as it was in a show of friendship.in a woman’s

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  • You are confusing constitutional protections during legal proceedings with behavior by private individuals and observers. Due process is exactly that, consideration and treatment that is *due* or called for under specific circumstances. A company has the right to fire anybody for any type of behavior, real or imagined. It can institute speech or behavior codes for employees that prohibit perfectly legal acts.

    The deeper issue here is how cavalierly we now deem to ruin someone’s life based on accusations. Back in Stalin’s USSR you could get shot for telling a joke. Today your reputation can be ruined, and all your life’s work flushed down the drain, because of what someone says you did decades ago.

    We can be smug when the left cannibalizes blowhards like Garrison Keilor, whose capital offense was putting his hand on some hysterical broad’s back. I never thought I’d ever feel sorry for that guy. Actually, my sorrow is for a society that entertains, celebrates even, such madness.

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    I have been repeating this refrain most of the week . . .


    Garrison Keelor !!!!!!! Come now.

    As for our country --- we have a lot of angry women about the election among other issues and A cohort of avenging angels among various groups --- and they intend to purge the country. Even if that means sacrificing Mr Keelor for his embarrassing inability to successfully navigate a woman's attire, such as it was in a show of friendship.in a woman's
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  • @Hank Rearden
    Your words—attacking the founders like a typical progressive leftist—speak for themselves, as I just pointed out. I would hazard a guess that your picture accompanies the dictionary definition of RINO.

    I am a conservative, though I vote Republican. Republicans many if not most, well most, left the field of conservative thought a long time ago. Even I have to admit that being a conservative demands serious rigor in thought, action not only in polity but living. A kantian ethos, to integrity and truth — it’s sometime very tough work to be consistent.

    Jame Madison was an intelligent astute thinker, a man by all standards ahead of his time at the sounding, I consider his campaign into Canada a huge and peculiar error. In fact his decision to go to war was a mistake. Here’s a conservative, the revolutionary war was a wholly unnecessary and if one is a scripturalist — in violation of God’s word. This article and the issue if due process, order, stability, holding to traditions that foster community, maintain/sustain community, just does not include raiding ships and tossing over other;s property. It sets a bad precedent for change and wholesome intellectual discussion and stable change when change is required.

    (But I am way ahead of myself and I think I may be taking advantage.)

    Buy this author’s position is a call for a fair hearing. It shuns the idea of kangaroo public tribunals, and careless methodology. Conservative polity cannot guarantee a fair trial or even justice as history demonstrates repeatedly, good order and due process cannot subdue the ills of human mind and intent or even “honest error.” In my view no era more than the Vietnam era embraced the worst of what the founder’s give us in tradition — that of violent and or disorderly protest. Even the Declaration of Independence on paper cannot hide that fact. Nor can your incorrect expectation that being a conservative means being politically correct about the founders as opposed to accurate observation, especially when others have made their polity an issue as is the case.

    Before I die, I would like to think if I had a son, he would honor me and even revere and no doubt as his father, I might even hope that he hold my very essence in awe and adoration — but the truth is find in me fault. All the better he acknowledge it and move to avoid the same and teach his children the same.

    It has been interesting.

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  • Your words—attacking the founders like a typical progressive leftist—speak for themselves, as I just pointed out. I would hazard a guess that your picture accompanies the dictionary definition of RINO.

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    I am a conservative, though I vote Republican. Republicans many if not most, well most, left the field of conservative thought a long time ago. Even I have to admit that being a conservative demands serious rigor in thought, action not only in polity but living. A kantian ethos, to integrity and truth -- it's sometime very tough work to be consistent.

    Jame Madison was an intelligent astute thinker, a man by all standards ahead of his time at the sounding, I consider his campaign into Canada a huge and peculiar error. In fact his decision to go to war was a mistake. Here's a conservative, the revolutionary war was a wholly unnecessary and if one is a scripturalist -- in violation of God's word. This article and the issue if due process, order, stability, holding to traditions that foster community, maintain/sustain community, just does not include raiding ships and tossing over other;s property. It sets a bad precedent for change and wholesome intellectual discussion and stable change when change is required.

    (But I am way ahead of myself and I think I may be taking advantage.)

    Buy this author's position is a call for a fair hearing. It shuns the idea of kangaroo public tribunals, and careless methodology. Conservative polity cannot guarantee a fair trial or even justice as history demonstrates repeatedly, good order and due process cannot subdue the ills of human mind and intent or even "honest error." In my view no era more than the Vietnam era embraced the worst of what the founder's give us in tradition -- that of violent and or disorderly protest. Even the Declaration of Independence on paper cannot hide that fact. Nor can your incorrect expectation that being a conservative means being politically correct about the founders as opposed to accurate observation, especially when others have made their polity an issue as is the case.

    Before I die, I would like to think if I had a son, he would honor me and even revere and no doubt as his father, I might even hope that he hold my very essence in awe and adoration -- but the truth is find in me fault. All the better he acknowledge it and move to avoid the same and teach his children the same.

    It has been interesting.
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  • @Hank Rearden
    Like every other progressive leftist, you attack the founders of our nation. (Go on, try telling us you're conservative again.)

    That has got to be one of the strangest comment in a series of strange comments. The founders made mistakes. They were intelligent men but they were not perfect men. But in either case, Thomas Jefferson’s word’s speak for themself and i just point that out.

    His prediction referenced to date has not come true.

    I have no idea who us is. My comments are generally noted to a specific comment

    One need not have rose colored glasses to be positive, or conservatism. I would hazard a fairly safe bet you don’t have a firm grasp of what it means to be conservative.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    There is only a simple response here,

    Thomas Jefferson should have been the first in line to deny the value of slavery that would the cause of the wrong to be remembered. It's strange call to be the cause of the wrong and then complain about the animosity.

    On that end, it is clear that the african american community has been on the receiving end of Pres Jefferson and companies' wrongs. I think it is safe to say, Pres Jefferson was as wrong in his fortune telling as he is in his bid for revolution while maintaining slaves. If one wants to wrap hypocrisy in the cloak of skin color, I tend to think blacks are more disturbed by the wrongs and the seeming hypocrisy than skin color.

    In other words, if said people were green and had behaved as Pres Jefferson, the issues of wrong and hypocrisy would yield the same bitter fruit color aside.

    It is the same plague on the issue concerning relational inappropriateness. Hollywood women was to hang Justice Thomas, and embrace Pres Clinton.

    Like every other progressive leftist, you attack the founders of our nation. (Go on, try telling us you’re conservative again.)

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    That has got to be one of the strangest comment in a series of strange comments. The founders made mistakes. They were intelligent men but they were not perfect men. But in either case, Thomas Jefferson's word's speak for themself and i just point that out.

    His prediction referenced to date has not come true.

    I have no idea who us is. My comments are generally noted to a specific comment

    One need not have rose colored glasses to be positive, or conservatism. I would hazard a fairly safe bet you don't have a firm grasp of what it means to be conservative.

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    H. G. Well’s.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I have no idea what that means . . . not sure I want to. But I find it curious that someone concerned about the color card is concerned about color rather than what is on the table. I am a huge fan of George Orwell's science fiction though some of his social theory is problematic.

    Get data sets from where I can find them and have a comfortable sense that they are legitimate. You seem to have a problem with data regardless of where it comes from.

    It has been interesting.

    The data, I’d say, is that you have never spent much time living around blacks.

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  • @IA
    Wow! You are a seriously status-marking Eloi if you're white.

    I have no idea what that means . . . not sure I want to. But I find it curious that someone concerned about the color card is concerned about color rather than what is on the table. I am a huge fan of George Orwell’s science fiction though some of his social theory is problematic.

    Get data sets from where I can find them and have a comfortable sense that they are legitimate. You seem to have a problem with data regardless of where it comes from.

    It has been interesting.

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    The data, I'd say, is that you have never spent much time living around blacks.
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    You may not like the numbers, but they squarely challenge the assumptions about a war on police. And they do so dramatically.

    The next bid was for a discussion about sociological warfare which by the data empirical, rhetorical or otherwise, firmly rebuts the notion of a substantial war on whites by blacks but rather the revers. The historical is complete on the matter that I am embarrassed for anyone who contend otherwise. Because the volume and breadth of antagonistic behavior and consequence i squarely to african americans as targets. Furthermore, the numbers were in no manner cherry picked as my ue of the numbers provided to me in detail indicate the same result.

    You applied the rhetoric of Pres Thomas Jefferson, in which he squarely states, we are going to blamed for wrongs done against . . . and so the record shows. Thus far his predictions about the peoples involved incapable of living together has been demonstrated false. Despite the struggle against the wrongs, trying to figure how to redress them, should they be redressed, etc. whites and lacks have successfully managed to be as citizens despite the one being disadvantaged. Even a policy such as affirmative action was demolished to benefits whites by 60+ percent.

    I am not going make any attempt to justify criminality. I am a conservative. that means a healthy distrust of government, that includes the police. And all government needs to be checked or they will as a matter of course do as they see fit as expedient and that means the constitution take a back seat --

    Again history rebuts your entire advance here. As back people have since man was on the planet engaged in legal and social mechanism for orderly society -- even egalitarian societies. The race card was played when the first colonists arrived on these shores for our history, it has never not been played and played most effectively by whites. We are where e are largely because the founders were afraid to act on their integrity of principles they claimed to be fighting for -- at every opportunity they raced the matter.

    The history of the democratic party is to use the same color card for the benefit of whites in just a different form in my view. But until, we start hauling police off into isolated fields, beating them up, hanging them as practice, until we start making laws or engage in practices that deny them access to education, housing, employment, the courts, finance, or any manner deny them due process, I think it is safe to say --

    there is no war on police aside from a war of words and rhetorical discourse. There is increasing pressure to hold police to account for excessive behavior as government agents and tools of government run by the people - but that can be owed more to technology and camera phones and access to the internet. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the studies completely recently only confirm the volumes of studies conducted under republican and democratic admin.

    The history of 43 million blacks are no less capable of self correction where need be and be part of society than whites

    http://blackdemographics.com/population/black-male-statistics/


    I would be cautious of using small indices to draw larger generalizations about entire population with such a serious charge.

    Now should you respond to this comment -- do not take my possible choice of not responding further a disrespect or a for lack of a response. I think we have just reached an end and I have nothing new to add. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that there is a war on police or whites. More social push back does not constitute a war. The country is just used to blacks most of them anyway being politically correct - by avoiding anything that might upset the majority, occasionally things pop/explode, but mostly blacks have a long history of political correctness.

    Again should I not respond it is a choice based on seeing nothing new to add to the conversation, it is not anything but that.

    Wow! You are a seriously status-marking Eloi if you’re white.

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    I have no idea what that means . . . not sure I want to. But I find it curious that someone concerned about the color card is concerned about color rather than what is on the table. I am a huge fan of George Orwell's science fiction though some of his social theory is problematic.

    Get data sets from where I can find them and have a comfortable sense that they are legitimate. You seem to have a problem with data regardless of where it comes from.

    It has been interesting.
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  • @ia
    My point was that if it weren't for white men who are still in the majority in the USA we would and will see Brazilian and African levels of violence, towards police or citizens. Your attempt to nit pick numbers with utu and make vague politically correct generalities with me is a red herring. Obama and his Justice Department attacks using the ludicrous disparate impact ploy to knee-cap police bolster my point. You are aware of the term "disparate impact?" Of course, the Democrats aren't going to openly say, hey let's start killing cops. They're not that stupid. Modern anarcho-tyranny doesn't operate that way. But the race card is always played in one form or another. The fact is, blacks are unable to self-correct and stand up to their own corruption and violence. If you were honest you'd admit it.

    You may not like the numbers, but they squarely challenge the assumptions about a war on police. And they do so dramatically.

    The next bid was for a discussion about sociological warfare which by the data empirical, rhetorical or otherwise, firmly rebuts the notion of a substantial war on whites by blacks but rather the revers. The historical is complete on the matter that I am embarrassed for anyone who contend otherwise. Because the volume and breadth of antagonistic behavior and consequence i squarely to african americans as targets. Furthermore, the numbers were in no manner cherry picked as my ue of the numbers provided to me in detail indicate the same result.

    You applied the rhetoric of Pres Thomas Jefferson, in which he squarely states, we are going to blamed for wrongs done against . . . and so the record shows. Thus far his predictions about the peoples involved incapable of living together has been demonstrated false. Despite the struggle against the wrongs, trying to figure how to redress them, should they be redressed, etc. whites and lacks have successfully managed to be as citizens despite the one being disadvantaged. Even a policy such as affirmative action was demolished to benefits whites by 60+ percent.

    I am not going make any attempt to justify criminality. I am a conservative. that means a healthy distrust of government, that includes the police. And all government needs to be checked or they will as a matter of course do as they see fit as expedient and that means the constitution take a back seat –

    Again history rebuts your entire advance here. As back people have since man was on the planet engaged in legal and social mechanism for orderly society — even egalitarian societies. The race card was played when the first colonists arrived on these shores for our history, it has never not been played and played most effectively by whites. We are where e are largely because the founders were afraid to act on their integrity of principles they claimed to be fighting for — at every opportunity they raced the matter.

    The history of the democratic party is to use the same color card for the benefit of whites in just a different form in my view. But until, we start hauling police off into isolated fields, beating them up, hanging them as practice, until we start making laws or engage in practices that deny them access to education, housing, employment, the courts, finance, or any manner deny them due process, I think it is safe to say –

    there is no war on police aside from a war of words and rhetorical discourse. There is increasing pressure to hold police to account for excessive behavior as government agents and tools of government run by the people – but that can be owed more to technology and camera phones and access to the internet. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the studies completely recently only confirm the volumes of studies conducted under republican and democratic admin.

    The history of 43 million blacks are no less capable of self correction where need be and be part of society than whites

    http://blackdemographics.com/population/black-male-statistics/

    I would be cautious of using small indices to draw larger generalizations about entire population with such a serious charge.

    Now should you respond to this comment — do not take my possible choice of not responding further a disrespect or a for lack of a response. I think we have just reached an end and I have nothing new to add. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that there is a war on police or whites. More social push back does not constitute a war. The country is just used to blacks most of them anyway being politically correct – by avoiding anything that might upset the majority, occasionally things pop/explode, but mostly blacks have a long history of political correctness.

    Again should I not respond it is a choice based on seeing nothing new to add to the conversation, it is not anything but that.

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    Wow! You are a seriously status-marking Eloi if you're white.
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  • I think this helpful — even though I might change a quibble here and there.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/22/ann-coulter-history-sex-america-part-1/

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  • @Orwellian State
    Notice this 400 page rant protesting the innocents of the accused did not include Roy Moore.

    David Walsh is clearly upset that his beloved icons of the left are being exposed for the hypocrites that they really are, and he's hitting out at the messengers. I'm sure if all the accused in NYT are GOP or Pat Buchanan he would not be writing such an article arguing for due process for the accused. Yet here he is pretending to be all about justice for the accused, assailing the NYT writers of being incapable of "separating the art from the artist", for being unable to recognize and accept that "vileness and genius go hand in hand", and for being unwilling to criticize the "existing social order" without dragging these "geniuses" through the mud for their vileness.

    I supposed it never occurred to David Walsh that many people do not consider these men "geniuses" nor what they produced "art", but crass arrogant pretenders who produced garbage hailed as genius art by other leftist idiots like himself dominating the media. Everything touched by these leftist idiots have turned to garbage - the Democratic party, the media, liberal arts, modern art, modern lit, modern music, pretty much all movies made since the 70s have been garbage. I for one am thrilled to see these garbage and hypocrites of Hollywood and DNC called out for being the garbage and hypocrites that they are in real life. Now they can take the rotten garbage that they've been producing and shove it up their pompous asses.

    But the NYT itself is another garbage rag so go ahead, nothing pleases me more than to see leftist garbage hypocrites tear at each other. They deserve one another.

    It is not a matter of taking sides as the entire point of this article is 1) the lack of due process without which our society is doomed and 2) the implications of the loss of due process is fascism.

    Case in point there are a number of men, one a Rabbi, accused of sexual abuse whose career was destroyed and a year later it was discovered the charges were false. Not excusing people like Weinstein but America thrived as a nation as due process was accorded to everyone and disregard for this process does not bode well for us all….

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  • @Stephen Paul Foster
    "The methods of the McCarthyite witch-hunts of the 1950s have been taken out, dusted off and brought to bear without any serious opposition within the artistic world."

    Can we be done with the idiotic "McCarthy witch-hunt" trope? Hess and Dragis are probably unaware that McCarthy was not in pursuit of imaginary witches but communists, of which there were prodigious numbers in the highest regions of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, most notably Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White and, probably, Harry Hopkins, FDR's go-to-guy for dealing with Stalin. The State Department was infested with commies (as JM correctly pointed out) who help hand China over to Mao.

    McCarthy is the Bete Noire of Hollywood because his anti-communist campaign targeted Hollywood as the chief propaganda arm of America's Stalinist-left, which it was. Unfortunately, McCarthy lost, the left won the 1960s culture wars and Hollywood went full-Marxist in message and full-Caligula in life style. These degenerates who constantly remind us about how virtuous they are have been exposed and ae getting what they deserve. Presumption of innocence does not apply since they have confessed and, on script, retreat to rehab.

    And so it goes on: The 2005 movie Good Night and Good Luck is a fairly recent example, but anyway the ‘McCarthy Era’ has become an epithet simply by endless repitition in media and the ‘arts’.
    This well written, well directed and beautifully filmed movie attempts to perpetuate the myths of the McCarthy era while ostensively telling the story of Edward R Murrow. For the knowledgeable viewer however, no case is really made against McCarthy, truly a tragic victim himself.
    Certainly, George Clooney, as writer and director could not make the case honestly. Surely with all the thousands of victims we are told about is it really necessary to work the bogus cases featured in the movie and discussed below into the screenplay?
    Milo Radulovich, discharged from the Air Force, is presented at length as a victim of McCarthy, but of course, McCarthy had nothing to do with his case. This was a security issue that was handled by the Air Force itself.
    Annie Lee Moss is presented as a victim of McCarthy in her appearance before the committee. Ms Moss was being questioned as a witness in trying to determine who had promoted Ms Moss, who worked in the cafeteria for many years, to a position as a code clerk handling classified messages in the Pentagon. In McCarthy’s questioning, he asks her if she’s ever been a dues paying member of the Communist Party (no), whether she subscribes to the Daily Worker newspaper (no), has attended Communist party meetings (no), and so on (no,no,no). She’s not very convincing in the film clips when giving her testimony, and the folks at CBS try to convince themselves that maybe one of the other Mosses in the phone book is the party in question. Four years later, of course, all the testimony she has given under oath is shown to be false (but not in the movie), and one wonders indeed who did promote Ms Moss, and why.
    The case of Lawrence Duggan, journalistic mentor of Murrow runs through the film, with Duggan always looking worried and nervous, until he finally commits suicide.
    No wonder: he was a Soviet spy, as revealed later (but not in the movie).
    Edward Murrow seems to look very worried a lot of the time, too. What is the meaning of the furtive glances exchanged between Murrow and Duggan? Is Clooney trying to tell us something? Did Murrow know his friend was a Soviet spy?
    The release of the Verona transcripts of intercepted Soviet code in 1995 provided the evidence that most all of what McCarthy said was true, and most all of what his detractors said was not. His attackers typically nit-pick with denunciations such as claiming one of his lists of communists in government was bogus: there were only 107 on his list, not 110, therefore everything McCarthy said was false. This movie extends and pretends the myths for a new generation who overwhelmingly will accept it as true without delving into the research, or even read an objective history of the period. Even the ‘Have you no decency’ money shot which was the beginning of the end for McCarthy has been later discredited by the facts.
    Trivia: Check the background in the historic film clips shown in the movie of the hearings for Robert Kennedy (yes, that Robert Kennedy) – he was the junior counsel on McCarthy’s committee.

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  • There is only a simple response here,

    Thomas Jefferson should have been the first in line to deny the value of slavery that would the cause of the wrong to be remembered. It’s strange call to be the cause of the wrong and then complain about the animosity.

    On that end, it is clear that the african american community has been on the receiving end of Pres Jefferson and companies’ wrongs. I think it is safe to say, Pres Jefferson was as wrong in his fortune telling as he is in his bid for revolution while maintaining slaves. If one wants to wrap hypocrisy in the cloak of skin color, I tend to think blacks are more disturbed by the wrongs and the seeming hypocrisy than skin color.

    In other words, if said people were green and had behaved as Pres Jefferson, the issues of wrong and hypocrisy would yield the same bitter fruit color aside.

    It is the same plague on the issue concerning relational inappropriateness. Hollywood women was to hang Justice Thomas, and embrace Pres Clinton.

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    Like every other progressive leftist, you attack the founders of our nation. (Go on, try telling us you're conservative again.)
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    As noted, I am not going to challenge protest speech that has been in existence since the country's founding. As I recall authority figures have been routinely burned in effigy. . . hung from lamp pot . . . etc.

    To date there is no war against the police and I am not going to advocate making speech, even said inflammatory speech illegal. Even those who advocate for hold officer to account to the extreme. The founders agitated for war against their mother country over taxes and more liberties . . .

    Not a euphemistic war of words, but actual war or a war in which the civil liberties of officers are denied, I may not agree with such language, but until someone starts taking up arms -- for actual war, I am going to side with the founders on matters of speech. I am concerned that so many are yelling fire in a crowded theater


    . . . when there is no fire.

    It’s a racial war of genocide. Police are just one popular target, as enforcers of the White man’s law.

    “Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites, ten thousand recollections by the blacks of the injuries they have sustained, new provocations, the real distinctions which nature has made, and many other circumstances will divide us into parties and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race.” -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

    They hate you for the very simple reason that you are not them. And they will attack you, unprovoked, every chance they get. Your skin is your uniform. War has been that way for the last 2 million years of human history; get used to it.

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  • @Hank Rearden
    "Pigs in a blanket. Fry 'em like bacon!"

    "What do we want? Dead cops!"

    "Protest," my ass. Those are war chants meant to demoralize what they consider to be the enemy forces.

    As noted, I am not going to challenge protest speech that has been in existence since the country’s founding. As I recall authority figures have been routinely burned in effigy. . . hung from lamp posts . . . etc.

    To date there is no war against the police and I am not going to advocate making speech, even said inflammatory speech illegal. Even those who advocate for hold officer to account to the extreme. The founders agitated for war against their mother country over taxes and more liberties . . .

    Not a euphemistic war of words, but actual war. I may not agree with such language, but until someone starts taking up arms — for actual war or the rights of some group, in this case the police, are abridged or denied, I am going to side with the founders on matters of speech. I am concerned that so many are yelling fire in a crowded theater

    . . . when there is no fire.

    excuse the double post, I was in the midst of corrections when it posted.

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  • @Hank Rearden
    "Pigs in a blanket. Fry 'em like bacon!"

    "What do we want? Dead cops!"

    "Protest," my ass. Those are war chants meant to demoralize what they consider to be the enemy forces.

    As noted, I am not going to challenge protest speech that has been in existence since the country’s founding. As I recall authority figures have been routinely burned in effigy. . . hung from lamp pot . . . etc.

    To date there is no war against the police and I am not going to advocate making speech, even said inflammatory speech illegal. Even those who advocate for hold officer to account to the extreme. The founders agitated for war against their mother country over taxes and more liberties . . .

    Not a euphemistic war of words, but actual war or a war in which the civil liberties of officers are denied, I may not agree with such language, but until someone starts taking up arms — for actual war, I am going to side with the founders on matters of speech. I am concerned that so many are yelling fire in a crowded theater

    . . . when there is no fire.

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    It's a racial war of genocide. Police are just one popular target, as enforcers of the White man's law.

    "Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites, ten thousand recollections by the blacks of the injuries they have sustained, new provocations, the real distinctions which nature has made, and many other circumstances will divide us into parties and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race." -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
     
    They hate you for the very simple reason that you are not them. And they will attack you, unprovoked, every chance they get. Your skin is your uniform. War has been that way for the last 2 million years of human history; get used to it.
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  • The purpose of the Hollywood sex scandals is to make everyone forget the ATF gun-running operation in Las Vegas that someone hijacked for reasons unknown. The ATF and the FBI are involved in the cover-up.

    Forgot about it, did’t you? That’s the point.

    Forget this deliberate sex scandal distraction and get back on the track of who really killed the 58 innocent people in Vegas. There was no “bump stock”. They were automatic military weapons.

    Remember Oliver North and his Iran- contra gun running scheme? Paddock was nowhere near the profile for a crazy lone gunman, nor do the other publicly known facts fit that fake narrative. Look at Paddock’s life style and tax records and you will see he fits the profile of a professional gun runner. Obviously, the hotel, the ATF, and the FBI knew what he was doing.

    Which is the more important story – that all men are pigs, or that the ATF and FBI are covering up the murder of 58 innocent Americans. Do we protect our citizens or don’t we?

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I was fairly specific about why I made the reference I did.

    I cannot and will not speak for the gentleman in question. Suffice it to say, he is entitled to engage in protests as a US citizen. He is even entitled to use animal references about members of law enforcement as has been done since law enforcement has existed in this country.

    But the decreased in attendance has very little to do with players taking a knee. It's probably the growing acceptance that the sort causes brain damage regardless of a players skin color. Millions of parents are suddenly questioning the risks . . .

    No comment on is more telling than that of Dodgers player Jackie Robinson (US Army Lt.).

    "Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey's drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.”

    For some people, dignity has no price.

    Pigs in a blanket. Fry ‘em like bacon!

    What do we want? Dead cops!

    “Protest,” my ass. Those are war chants meant to demoralize what they consider to be the enemy forces.

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    As noted, I am not going to challenge protest speech that has been in existence since the country's founding. As I recall authority figures have been routinely burned in effigy. . . hung from lamp pot . . . etc.

    To date there is no war against the police and I am not going to advocate making speech, even said inflammatory speech illegal. Even those who advocate for hold officer to account to the extreme. The founders agitated for war against their mother country over taxes and more liberties . . .

    Not a euphemistic war of words, but actual war or a war in which the civil liberties of officers are denied, I may not agree with such language, but until someone starts taking up arms -- for actual war, I am going to side with the founders on matters of speech. I am concerned that so many are yelling fire in a crowded theater


    . . . when there is no fire.

    , @EliteCommInc.
    As noted, I am not going to challenge protest speech that has been in existence since the country's founding. As I recall authority figures have been routinely burned in effigy. . . hung from lamp posts . . . etc.

    To date there is no war against the police and I am not going to advocate making speech, even said inflammatory speech illegal. Even those who advocate for hold officer to account to the extreme. The founders agitated for war against their mother country over taxes and more liberties . . .

    Not a euphemistic war of words, but actual war. I may not agree with such language, but until someone starts taking up arms -- for actual war or the rights of some group, in this case the police, are abridged or denied, I am going to side with the founders on matters of speech. I am concerned that so many are yelling fire in a crowded theater


    . . . when there is no fire.

    excuse the double post, I was in the midst of corrections when it posted.
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  • @Hank Rearden
    Numbers aren't the sole definition of war. Just because blacks aren't very good at prosecuting their war on police doesn't mean they aren't at war with the police.

    http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Colin-Kaepernick-01-800x416.jpg

    In a few years … your constitutional rights will be a remote dream.

    Sadly, you may well be right. Certainly our “elites” are moving full speed ahead to undermine, concrete over and circumvent what is left of our Constitution.

    Meanwhile, we should still continue to fight them every step of the way in whatever manner works best in each situation.

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  • Perhaps this is tangential to a thoughtful article, but

    1. Film aint art.

    2. Anybody who thinks Louis C. K. is funny has their head so far up their a$$ they can self examine their molars.

    3. GOT follows the novels closely. The first four seasons had a lot of gratuitous soft core porn thrown in, but it has disappeared as the show got better.

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  • I think my point was made and the reference to who was being killed in referenced to war makes it clear — the police are not significant targets.

    From a sociological perspective, from historical data set, yikes!!!! I am not sure why any person much-less a white person would want to engage in that discussion. For the evidence is mountains in support of a case that blacks have been on the defense. in every category: criminal justice, financials, employment, education, housing, faith and practice . . .

    Goodness, I am not going to make a case that pits me against blacks who for two hundred years had to fight to fight for the country and routinely had to meet a much higher standard. . . that’s a loop to loop counter intuitive, I am going to avoid.

    As for the gentleman in question, I cannot speak for him, but I am certainly not going to challenge his right to hold views of officers that have been around since there was law enforcement about untoward police conduct in the US. Here’s a comment by by Dodger’s player,

    “Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.” US Army Lt. Jackie Robinson

    For some people, dignity has no price.

    Most blacks are probably just relieved for a break from Mr Cosby’s woes with members of the opposite sex.

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  • @Hank Rearden
    Numbers aren't the sole definition of war. Just because blacks aren't very good at prosecuting their war on police doesn't mean they aren't at war with the police.

    http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Colin-Kaepernick-01-800x416.jpg

    It seems I slightly misremembered long-ago research on this. Based on a cursory search, it appears that technically, truth of the statement is still a defense.

    However, the defendant has to prove the truth of his statement which in many cases is impossible. (How do you prove that politician X accepted a quid pro quo in return for mysteriously changing her vote on an important project?)

    As noted, U.S. law makes it very difficult for a “public figure” to sue successfully for libel. This is as it should be – any other rule would create an elite with the power to hush up unpleasant truths through the threat of libel actions.

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  • @Hank Rearden
    Numbers aren't the sole definition of war. Just because blacks aren't very good at prosecuting their war on police doesn't mean they aren't at war with the police.

    http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Colin-Kaepernick-01-800x416.jpg

    I was fairly specific about why I made the reference I did.

    I cannot and will not speak for the gentleman in question. Suffice it to say, he is entitled to engage in protests as a US citizen. He is even entitled to use animal references about members of law enforcement as has been done since law enforcement has existed in this country.

    But the decreased in attendance has very little to do with players taking a knee. It’s probably the growing acceptance that the sort causes brain damage regardless of a players skin color. Millions of parents are suddenly questioning the risks . . .

    No comment on is more telling than that of Dodgers player Jackie Robinson (US Army Lt.).

    “Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.”

    For some people, dignity has no price.

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    "Pigs in a blanket. Fry 'em like bacon!"

    "What do we want? Dead cops!"

    "Protest," my ass. Those are war chants meant to demoralize what they consider to be the enemy forces.
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    The number of police officers killed in the line of duty averages out to about 200 per year. I am being generous, its lower. That's the total of our law enforcement officers that pass and that total includes all manner of mean. When considers those killed by homicide -- it drops substantially. Again being generous it's about 70 to 100. That amounts to a homicide rate of less than 0.019285714285714287%. I used a total of 700,000 law enforcement officers on duty nationally. I think the number is closer to 900,000.

    While public support for law enforcement is a required practice. The numbers suggest that there i not a war on police. Criticism may be higher, but the general public is not making war on the police, including African Americans.

    Numbers aren’t the sole definition of war. Just because blacks aren’t very good at prosecuting their war on police doesn’t mean they aren’t at war with the police.

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    I was fairly specific about why I made the reference I did.

    I cannot and will not speak for the gentleman in question. Suffice it to say, he is entitled to engage in protests as a US citizen. He is even entitled to use animal references about members of law enforcement as has been done since law enforcement has existed in this country.

    But the decreased in attendance has very little to do with players taking a knee. It's probably the growing acceptance that the sort causes brain damage regardless of a players skin color. Millions of parents are suddenly questioning the risks . . .

    No comment on is more telling than that of Dodgers player Jackie Robinson (US Army Lt.).

    "Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey's drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made.”

    For some people, dignity has no price.
    , @Eagle Eye
    It seems I slightly misremembered long-ago research on this. Based on a cursory search, it appears that technically, truth of the statement is still a defense.

    However, the defendant has to prove the truth of his statement which in many cases is impossible. (How do you prove that politician X accepted a quid pro quo in return for mysteriously changing her vote on an important project?)

    As noted, U.S. law makes it very difficult for a "public figure" to sue successfully for libel. This is as it should be - any other rule would create an elite with the power to hush up unpleasant truths through the threat of libel actions.
    , @Eagle Eye

    In a few years ... your constitutional rights will be a remote dream.
     
    Sadly, you may well be right. Certainly our "elites" are moving full speed ahead to undermine, concrete over and circumvent what is left of our Constitution.

    Meanwhile, we should still continue to fight them every step of the way in whatever manner works best in each situation.
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  • https://frisbeebookjournal.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/lois-goulds-a-sea-change-feminist-fashion-model-lit-of-the-70s/

    Lois Gold wrote SUCH GOOD FRIENDS, made into a movie by Otto Preminger.

    It shows a lot about the change in sexual mores that led to current problems. Now we have 50 shrieks of grey.

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I think it's best, if avoid road you'd like to kip to and just stay where I came in.


    Police are not being targeted by citizens of any blend in some orchestrated cause of war by shooting them a your comment suggests (in my view). Police rarely experience death by the hand of citizens for any reason. While tragic, it is rare. Whatever the hazards more in some communities than others, citizen by and large either accept, tolerate or assist the police in doing their job and do so regardless of other tensions.

    My point was that if it weren’t for white men who are still in the majority in the USA we would and will see Brazilian and African levels of violence, towards police or citizens. Your attempt to nit pick numbers with utu and make vague politically correct generalities with me is a red herring. Obama and his Justice Department attacks using the ludicrous disparate impact ploy to knee-cap police bolster my point. You are aware of the term “disparate impact?” Of course, the Democrats aren’t going to openly say, hey let’s start killing cops. They’re not that stupid. Modern anarcho-tyranny doesn’t operate that way. But the race card is always played in one form or another. The fact is, blacks are unable to self-correct and stand up to their own corruption and violence. If you were honest you’d admit it.

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    You may not like the numbers, but they squarely challenge the assumptions about a war on police. And they do so dramatically.

    The next bid was for a discussion about sociological warfare which by the data empirical, rhetorical or otherwise, firmly rebuts the notion of a substantial war on whites by blacks but rather the revers. The historical is complete on the matter that I am embarrassed for anyone who contend otherwise. Because the volume and breadth of antagonistic behavior and consequence i squarely to african americans as targets. Furthermore, the numbers were in no manner cherry picked as my ue of the numbers provided to me in detail indicate the same result.

    You applied the rhetoric of Pres Thomas Jefferson, in which he squarely states, we are going to blamed for wrongs done against . . . and so the record shows. Thus far his predictions about the peoples involved incapable of living together has been demonstrated false. Despite the struggle against the wrongs, trying to figure how to redress them, should they be redressed, etc. whites and lacks have successfully managed to be as citizens despite the one being disadvantaged. Even a policy such as affirmative action was demolished to benefits whites by 60+ percent.

    I am not going make any attempt to justify criminality. I am a conservative. that means a healthy distrust of government, that includes the police. And all government needs to be checked or they will as a matter of course do as they see fit as expedient and that means the constitution take a back seat --

    Again history rebuts your entire advance here. As back people have since man was on the planet engaged in legal and social mechanism for orderly society -- even egalitarian societies. The race card was played when the first colonists arrived on these shores for our history, it has never not been played and played most effectively by whites. We are where e are largely because the founders were afraid to act on their integrity of principles they claimed to be fighting for -- at every opportunity they raced the matter.

    The history of the democratic party is to use the same color card for the benefit of whites in just a different form in my view. But until, we start hauling police off into isolated fields, beating them up, hanging them as practice, until we start making laws or engage in practices that deny them access to education, housing, employment, the courts, finance, or any manner deny them due process, I think it is safe to say --

    there is no war on police aside from a war of words and rhetorical discourse. There is increasing pressure to hold police to account for excessive behavior as government agents and tools of government run by the people - but that can be owed more to technology and camera phones and access to the internet. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the studies completely recently only confirm the volumes of studies conducted under republican and democratic admin.

    The history of 43 million blacks are no less capable of self correction where need be and be part of society than whites

    http://blackdemographics.com/population/black-male-statistics/


    I would be cautious of using small indices to draw larger generalizations about entire population with such a serious charge.

    Now should you respond to this comment -- do not take my possible choice of not responding further a disrespect or a for lack of a response. I think we have just reached an end and I have nothing new to add. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that there is a war on police or whites. More social push back does not constitute a war. The country is just used to blacks most of them anyway being politically correct - by avoiding anything that might upset the majority, occasionally things pop/explode, but mostly blacks have a long history of political correctness.

    Again should I not respond it is a choice based on seeing nothing new to add to the conversation, it is not anything but that.

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  • @Thirdeye
    Franken was an entertainer before he entered politics.

    {Franken was an entertainer before he entered politics.}

    I know what he _was_: a comedian on SNL.

    Again: read the first paragraph of the article; the authors do not identify Frankel as an entertainer.
    They identify Sen Frankel as a politician.
    What part of that sentence is not clear to you?

    Here you go:

    {….which has now been extended to the political arena (preposterously in the case of Sen. Al Franken).}

    POLITICAL.

    You lose.
    Give it up.

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  • Authors: … the political arena (preposterously in the case of Sen. Al Franken).

    Sen. Al Franken: “embarrassed and ashamed”

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  • @utu
    2016 Statistics for Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted in the Line of Duty

    Felonious Deaths
    The 66 felonious deaths occurred in 29 states and in Puerto Rico. The number of officers killed as a result of criminal acts in 2016 increased by 25 when compared with the 41 officers who were feloniously killed in 2015. The five- and 10-year comparisons show an increase of 17 felonious deaths compared with the 2012 figure (49 officers) and an increase of eight deaths compared with 2007 data (58 officers).

    17 were ambushed (entrapment/premeditation);
    13 were answering disturbance calls (seven were domestic disturbance calls);
    nine were investigating suspicious persons/circumstances;
    six were engaged in tactical situations;
    five were performing investigative activities (such as surveillances, searches, or interviews);
    four were conducting traffic pursuits/stops;
    three were investigating drug-related matters;
    three were victims of unprovoked attacks;
    one was answering a burglary in progress call or pursuing a burglary suspect(s);
    one was answering a robbery in progress call or pursuing a robbery suspect(s); and
    four were attempting other arrests.

    Accidental Deaths
    Fifty-two law enforcement officers were killed accidentally while performing their duties in 2016. The majority (26 officers) were killed in automobile accidents. The number of accidental line-of-duty deaths increased by seven when compared with the 45 officers who were accidentally killed in 2015.

    26 died as a result of automobile accidents;
    12 were struck by vehicles;
    seven officers died due to motorcycle accidents;
    three were accidentally shot;
    two officers drowned;
    one died in an aircraft accident; and
    one officer died in another type of duty-related accident.

    Use of Seatbelts: Use of seatbelts was reported for 21 of the 26 officers killed in automobile accidents. Of these 21 officers, 10 were wearing seatbelts, and 11 were not wearing seatbelts at the times of the accidents. Of the 11 victim officers who were fatally injured in automobile accidents and were not wearing seatbelts, two were seated in parked motor vehicles at the times of the accidents.

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2016-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-killed-and-assaulted-in-the-line-of-duty

    I am not sure what your point is. That officers on rare occasion get killed . . . I think we are on the same page. A nationwide death toll of 70 plus officers may be tragic, but if that constitutes a war —–

    — then the threshold has dropped catastrophically. I think the numbers are clear. I am generally fairly generous in discussions about numbers I would say 0.019 . . .% is not an indication of crisis or war against the police. As I stated, I am generous with the numbers. I was sure I made that clear initially.

    I have no issue using your numbers . . . 0.008% of officers are killed via some act of homicide. Targeted attacks based on your numbers. I am still only using 700,000 officers. Generally with respect to the ultimate sacrifice, officer are fairly protected and not much of a target by nearly anyone.

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  • @ia
    Blacks are always at war with police. Police have been used as scapegoats forever. The only reason the rest of the world doesn't have African levels of anarchy and corruption is because blacks can't gain enough power. Correction: the rest of the world has near-African levels of corruption. They just aren't into African levels of casual mayhem.

    I think it’s best, if avoid road you’d like to kip to and just stay where I came in.

    Police are not being targeted by citizens of any blend in some orchestrated cause of war by shooting them a your comment suggests (in my view). Police rarely experience death by the hand of citizens for any reason. While tragic, it is rare. Whatever the hazards more in some communities than others, citizen by and large either accept, tolerate or assist the police in doing their job and do so regardless of other tensions.

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    My point was that if it weren't for white men who are still in the majority in the USA we would and will see Brazilian and African levels of violence, towards police or citizens. Your attempt to nit pick numbers with utu and make vague politically correct generalities with me is a red herring. Obama and his Justice Department attacks using the ludicrous disparate impact ploy to knee-cap police bolster my point. You are aware of the term "disparate impact?" Of course, the Democrats aren't going to openly say, hey let's start killing cops. They're not that stupid. Modern anarcho-tyranny doesn't operate that way. But the race card is always played in one form or another. The fact is, blacks are unable to self-correct and stand up to their own corruption and violence. If you were honest you'd admit it.
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  • @jimbojones
    Many good points in this article:
    - Weinstein (among others) is just as deserving of due process and the presumption of innocence as everyone else.
    - Effectively banning the works of the proscribed is Stalinist and an extremely dangerous precedent. Are we to burn the corpus of Aristotle because he was a "misogynist" who supported slavery? That's insane. Just as discounting the achievements of men like Columbus for reasons of childish peevishness is insane because it must lead to absurdities such as disavowing the achievements of Washington and Amerigo Vespucci and the renaming of entire states and continents.
    - The NYT is fake news.

    The author's conception of "the right" is somewhat mystifying; but it does look like "the identity politics crowd in the US" is becoming increasingly unhinged.

    Many good points in your comment.

    A bunch of replies to other comments:

    1) David Walsh’s article is in response to an NYT article about art and artists.

    2) wsws.org on Roy Moore: How not to fight Judge Roy Moore https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/14/pers-n14.html

    3) wsws.org and censorship: wsws has moderated comments, refer to The Saker to find out why: http://thesaker.is/about-the-importance-of-moderation-a-thank-you-to-the-mods/

    4) The two themes of the article are the essential democratic right of the presumption of innocence, refer to Nancy Pelosi on John Conyers: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-26/icon-womens-rights-conyers-steps-down-judiciary-committee-despite-support-pelosi

    5) The other theme is the dichotomy between the artist’s personality and their work.

    6) Walsh’s stance is courageous.

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  • @Orwellian State
    After 5 decades of unchecked power, the degeneracy of the left is finally passed the breaking point. The left and in particular Hollywood has been selling us depravity as "creativity" for at least 5 decades. Even they have had enough of their own bullshit.

    HBO in particular needs to be called out for producing the sickest and most depraved garbage in the last 3 decades. Each new series is sicker and more depraved than the last. Every single one of their shows glorifies wanton degeneracy, often wrapped up in sickening violence and gore, like every Quentin Tarantino movie, appealing to the darkest side of human nature. Utter depravity. The depraved garbage that they produced like Sex and the City, Sopranos, Entourage, Six Feet Under, Game of Thrones further inspired other depraved garbage like Mad Men, House of Cards, Breaking Bad. Not surprisingly, it is run by a Jew.

    Hollywood just cannot sink any lower. And the main reason is because it's run by depraved degenerates like Harvey Weinstein who want us to aspire to a hedonistic lifestyle like theirs, pill popping, coke sniffing, hard liquor for breakfast, casual sex all day long with anything with 2 legs, nothing is off limits. Perhaps Hollywood was always soulless and depraved to begin with, but in the hands of these hedonistic depraved Jews it is now a true bottomless cesspit.

    Perhaps it has finally gone too far. Women are finally waking up and realizing that no, they cannot enjoy casual sex like men, that the whole sexual revolution and sexual lewdness have benefited men far more than women, and that they do not want their daughters to grow up like Amy Schumer in Trainwreck. Perhaps Hollywood women have finally had enough of the hypocrisy. They cannot continue to play the female heroines on screen while still have to sleep with the producers to get the parts. It's the ultimate hypocrisy. Thank God somebody's finally had enough. We need to applaud and support these women, and I'm thankful the NYT is at least getting a shred of integrity back and stopped protecting these degenerate men of the Left as they have been.

    David Walsh wants to preserve the status quo. He wants Hollywood to retain its depravity and vileness, so it can continue to pump out more soulless, depraved garbage to drag our society further down their bottomless cesspit. He's no different than all the creeps, rapists and child molesters thus far called out. He's another piece of human garbage that that all need to be swept out of Hollywood, Wall Street and the DNC into the black hole and never heard from again.

    It's time for the left to clean house, they no longer have any moral high ground to stand on.

    What is wrong with Game of Thrones?

    A lot of violence and sex for sure, but quite entertaining!

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  • The NYT is probably over-reacting because it has known a lot of these stories for years, but declined to publish or even investigate them. The zeal of the denunciations serves several purposes. It assuages NYT employees’ guilt; it gives the paper a (belated) track record of being on the “right side of history”; and, the longer the campaign continues, the less likely it is that anyone will stop and ask the embarrassing question “When did the NYT first learn about Harvey Weinstein’s abuse of women?”

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    The number of police officers killed in the line of duty averages out to about 200 per year. I am being generous, its lower. That's the total of our law enforcement officers that pass and that total includes all manner of mean. When considers those killed by homicide -- it drops substantially. Again being generous it's about 70 to 100. That amounts to a homicide rate of less than 0.019285714285714287%. I used a total of 700,000 law enforcement officers on duty nationally. I think the number is closer to 900,000.

    While public support for law enforcement is a required practice. The numbers suggest that there i not a war on police. Criticism may be higher, but the general public is not making war on the police, including African Americans.

    Blacks are always at war with police. Police have been used as scapegoats forever. The only reason the rest of the world doesn’t have African levels of anarchy and corruption is because blacks can’t gain enough power. Correction: the rest of the world has near-African levels of corruption. They just aren’t into African levels of casual mayhem.

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    I think it's best, if avoid road you'd like to kip to and just stay where I came in.


    Police are not being targeted by citizens of any blend in some orchestrated cause of war by shooting them a your comment suggests (in my view). Police rarely experience death by the hand of citizens for any reason. While tragic, it is rare. Whatever the hazards more in some communities than others, citizen by and large either accept, tolerate or assist the police in doing their job and do so regardless of other tensions.
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