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    Mainstream commentators display amnesia when they describe former FBI Directors Robert Mueller and James Comey as stellar and credible law enforcement figures. Perhaps if they included J. Edgar Hoover, such fulsome praise could be put into proper perspective. Although these Hoover successors, now occupying center stage in the investigation of President Trump, have been hailed...
  • @Mulegino1
    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

    Believers in the ridiculous official narrative of the 19 miracle working Jihadist amateur pilots and hydrocarbon based office fires.

    Those who maintain that the Bush Administration was "incompetent" and that it "ignored the warnings."

    The LIHOP crowd- Bush and Cheney deviously let it happen on purpose.

    Robert Muller's role has nothing to do with being an impartial prosecutor but about being a "fixer" in proper Washingtonian parlance. He was probably brought into the FBI to insure a foreordained "slam dunk" verdict that 19 Arab amateur pilots hijacked 4 airliners led by a deathly ill man living in a cave, performed miraculous feats of aviation which would have made Waldo Pepper envious and violated the laws of physics all in one day. Now he is serving another purpose for his string pullers in the deep state by torpedoing Trump.

    As Conan-Doyle wrote, "Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    Office fires, nor jet fuel, nor building collapses or aircraft impacts will not cause hundreds of thousands of tons of structural steel and concrete to undergo molecular dissociation and turn into dust clouds. They generally do not cause the metal components of vehicles in the vicinity to be destroyed while their non-metallic components remain intact. Neither will conventional explosives or even nano-thermite. The destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and the core of WTC 6 was not caused by any of these things alone. WTC 7 may have been a case of conventional controlled demolition, but the idea that it experienced universal failure and collapsed into its footprint because of "raging fires" is too stupid for words.

    It is O'Brien holding up the three fingers and torturing Winston into seeing two - except that a good part of our public accepts their masters' voice willingly and enthusiastically, even today in 2017.

    Believers in the ridiculous official narrative of the 19 miracle working Jihadist amateur pilots and hydrocarbon based office fires.

    Perhaps you could explain what is so implausible about these details?

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  • @Anonymous
    "as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail"

    Sources? Links? References?

    Perhaps you’re just taking this slapstick fall for straight men everywhere? I thank one straight man, and soon another shows up, with the 2nd verse worse than the 1st…

    Otherwise, I’m truly flattered but slightly astonished that you seek this information from me, rather than from one of the major search engines, where you might check it on out for yourself, strut your own darn stuff as an internet researcher and gadfly, maybe even report back here with what you learn, perhaps actually contribute something –as novel and fantastic as that altruistic concept may seem–just by employing this shrewdly compiled, extraordinarily clever, and amazingly productive search argument:

    “9/11 commission set up to fail.”

    I know it’s a little tricky, but don’t worry about the details for now. Just plug that little ol’ cryptic phrase into your favorite search engine, and trust me: it’ll work.

    I hear it’s better to teach a man to fish, than to feed him fish, and so, Go Fish!

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  • @Sparkon
    Thank you. Some people look high and low, even pay big money for a good straight man.

    One essential truth of 9/11 is that the two main WTC towers were far too strong and massive to have been destroyed by a pair of 767s, their fuel, and the resulting fires, let alone to have been torn apart in the manner televised on September 11, 2001. Burning steel-framed buildings just don't fall down, but by the time all the dust had settled on 9/11, virtually the entire WTC complex had been destroyed.

    In the tragedy's aftermath, most of the apparent occult symbology surrounding this event has been obscured.

    As for Chapter 8, most of the blinking red lights were just window dressing, with most of the warnings as vague as they were breathless.

    Almost immediately after Pres. George W. Bush's inauguration, a "drumbeat" of intelligence reports is noted, reaching a crescendo in the summer of 2001, and warning of "spectacular" attacks by Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and other shadowy Arab and/or Muslim extremists.


    The system was blinking red
     
    But when the Minneapolis FBI office got a clue--a very good one, in fact, and they were not alone--the system ignored these blinking red lights because, you know, those were not the blinking red lights they were looking for:

    There was substantial disagreement between Minneapolis agents and FBI headquarters as to what Moussaoui was planning to do. In one conversation between a Minneapolis supervisor and a headquarters agent, the latter complained that Minneapolis’s FISA request was couched in a manner intended to get people “spun up.”The supervisor replied that was precisely his intent. He said he was “trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center.” The headquarters agent replied that this was not going to happen and that they did not know if Moussaoui was a terrorist.
     
    Moussaoui is probably just a dupe anyway, one of many setting the stage for the big event, caricatures of real terrorists, I'd suggest, whose first lesson is probably keep your mouth shut, rather than leave a trail of incriminating actions and statements even Inspector Clouseau might find.

    On August 23, DCI Tenet was briefed about the Moussaoui case in a briefing titled “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly.”

    Tenet was also told that Moussaoui wanted to learn to fly a 747, paid for his training in cash, was interested to learn the doors do not open in flight, and wanted to fly a simulated flight from London to New York...Tenet told us that no connection to al Qaeda was apparent to him at the time...
     

    https://9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

    So we see how it works. Unless you have some "apparent" connection to Al Qaeda, you don't get to blink a red light, or if you do, it won't be the blinking red light they're looking for.

    But then, mirabile dictu, in the immediate aftermath of the WTC attacks, the connections are made, the lights are blinking, fingerprints glowing; Tenet can see bin Laden's "...all over it."

    Clouseau would be impressed.

    Except that the FBI said it had no evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.


    “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
    --Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI.
     
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm

    Hard evidence. Fancy that. Or maybe ship it to China.

    With their poor security, the alleged 9/11 suicide pilots should have been picked up by U.S. intelligence, investigative, and security services, and indeed they were, by a program known as Able Danger, but the 9/11 Commission maneuvered itself away from the issue because, as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail.

    “as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail”

    Sources? Links? References?

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    • Replies: @Sparkon
    Perhaps you're just taking this slapstick fall for straight men everywhere? I thank one straight man, and soon another shows up, with the 2nd verse worse than the 1st...

    Otherwise, I'm truly flattered but slightly astonished that you seek this information from me, rather than from one of the major search engines, where you might check it on out for yourself, strut your own darn stuff as an internet researcher and gadfly, maybe even report back here with what you learn, perhaps actually contribute something --as novel and fantastic as that altruistic concept may seem--just by employing this shrewdly compiled, extraordinarily clever, and amazingly productive search argument:

    "9/11 commission set up to fail."

    I know it's a little tricky, but don't worry about the details for now. Just plug that little ol' cryptic phrase into your favorite search engine, and trust me: it'll work.

    I hear it's better to teach a man to fish, than to feed him fish, and so, Go Fish!

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  • @Anonymous
    [Too many typos.]

    Have you read any informative books? No evidence in your reply to suggest the relevance of your opening sentence.

    I would suggest you try some wide reading and concentrated thinking about it to avoid being taken in by such sites as "globslresearch". All Robin Cook was pointing out was that Al Qaeda was formed as a result of Western intelligence training and equipping them for action against the Russians in Afghanistan and that it was a pity their sponsors didn't anticipate their turning against the West when the Russians were defeated. Nothing new or surprising in that. So... do you hsve a point?

    Wow! UR software going feral again. Can anyone spot the typos in that?

    [Well one... that's A typo: s for a]

    Same too #45!

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  • @Anonymous
    [Too many typos]

    That's not a good advrrtisement for a good night's sleep. Now tell us all what you acttually regard as the essential truths of the 9/11 story.

    And please try a sensible explanation of where all those Chapter 8 warnings fitted in.

    Thank you. Some people look high and low, even pay big money for a good straight man.

    One essential truth of 9/11 is that the two main WTC towers were far too strong and massive to have been destroyed by a pair of 767s, their fuel, and the resulting fires, let alone to have been torn apart in the manner televised on September 11, 2001. Burning steel-framed buildings just don’t fall down, but by the time all the dust had settled on 9/11, virtually the entire WTC complex had been destroyed.

    In the tragedy’s aftermath, most of the apparent occult symbology surrounding this event has been obscured.

    As for Chapter 8, most of the blinking red lights were just window dressing, with most of the warnings as vague as they were breathless.

    Almost immediately after Pres. George W. Bush’s inauguration, a “drumbeat” of intelligence reports is noted, reaching a crescendo in the summer of 2001, and warning of “spectacular” attacks by Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and other shadowy Arab and/or Muslim extremists.

    The system was blinking red

    But when the Minneapolis FBI office got a clue–a very good one, in fact, and they were not alone–the system ignored these blinking red lights because, you know, those were not the blinking red lights they were looking for:

    There was substantial disagreement between Minneapolis agents and FBI headquarters as to what Moussaoui was planning to do. In one conversation between a Minneapolis supervisor and a headquarters agent, the latter complained that Minneapolis’s FISA request was couched in a manner intended to get people “spun up.”The supervisor replied that was precisely his intent. He said he was “trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center.” The headquarters agent replied that this was not going to happen and that they did not know if Moussaoui was a terrorist.

    Moussaoui is probably just a dupe anyway, one of many setting the stage for the big event, caricatures of real terrorists, I’d suggest, whose first lesson is probably keep your mouth shut, rather than leave a trail of incriminating actions and statements even Inspector Clouseau might find.

    On August 23, DCI Tenet was briefed about the Moussaoui case in a briefing titled “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly.”

    Tenet was also told that Moussaoui wanted to learn to fly a 747, paid for his training in cash, was interested to learn the doors do not open in flight, and wanted to fly a simulated flight from London to New York…Tenet told us that no connection to al Qaeda was apparent to him at the time…

    https://9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

    So we see how it works. Unless you have some “apparent” connection to Al Qaeda, you don’t get to blink a red light, or if you do, it won’t be the blinking red light they’re looking for.

    But then, mirabile dictu, in the immediate aftermath of the WTC attacks, the connections are made, the lights are blinking, fingerprints glowing; Tenet can see bin Laden’s “…all over it.”

    Clouseau would be impressed.

    Except that the FBI said it had no evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.

    “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
    –Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm

    Hard evidence. Fancy that. Or maybe ship it to China.

    With their poor security, the alleged 9/11 suicide pilots should have been picked up by U.S. intelligence, investigative, and security services, and indeed they were, by a program known as Able Danger, but the 9/11 Commission maneuvered itself away from the issue because, as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail.

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    "as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail"

    Sources? Links? References?
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA
    If there is a recording, then why do you need a memo? Why leak what you claim what was said? If you get anything wrong it will show you to be a liar.

    The answer to your first question – though I suspect you mean it to be rhetorical – is obvious. You make notes because you don’t have access to the recording.

    Why “leak” ls a tendentious question. He also gave evidence to Congress. But the substantive answer is that
    (a) he took notes which he was sufficiently confident were correct that he was happy to quote them,
    and/or
    (b) that he was confident the President wouldn’t disclose the recordings and that if he did it would be damaging to the President’s credit.

    I would add that there should be no surprise that a sensible person should want to have an accurate record of his conversations with the President.

    I have omitted one possibility, viz. that the President said such potentially embarrassing things that Comey could lie freely knowing that the President woulfn’t call him out. But that would run the risk that only the narrowly relevant part of the recording would have to be disclosed.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76
    If you never read informative books you will always be played by governments!

    September 11, 2016 Al Qaeda: The Data Base

    Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

    In 1979 Carters National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski went into Pakistans border regions with Afghanistan to give a little pep talk to some prospective majehadeen (Holy Warriors).

    https://youtu.be/nA-5T2l54_8

    [Too many typos.]

    Have you read any informative books? No evidence in your reply to suggest the relevance of your opening sentence.

    I would suggest you try some wide reading and concentrated thinking about it to avoid being taken in by such sites as “globslresearch”. All Robin Cook was pointing out was that Al Qaeda was formed as a result of Western intelligence training and equipping them for action against the Russians in Afghanistan and that it was a pity their sponsors didn’t anticipate their turning against the West when the Russians were defeated. Nothing new or surprising in that. So… do you hsve a point?

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    Wow! UR software going feral again. Can anyone spot the typos in that?

    [Well one... that's A typo: s for a]

    Same too #45!

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  • @Sparkon

    Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders’ conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.
     
    The characteristic typo-laced, soporific prose defeats the gee whiz attempt to go all anonymous, but is nevertheless a good example of a common but fallacious argument type known as special pleading.

    And so, fortified with a good night's sleep behind me, and some special java before me, I will now reply with some special sarcasm.

    1. I don't know where the idea was conceived of flying an aircraft into a building, and former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice didn't know either. Fortunately for her, she was allowed to amend, retract, modify her statement that "No one could have imagined..." terrorists might do such a thing before she testified to the always vigilant 9/11 Commission.

    2. Everyone would agree, of course, that if Al Qaeda or one of its mysterious affiliates decided to train some suicide pilots for an attack on the United States, it would make much more sense to send them right into the U.S. for their training, where they might more easily attract the attention of the various U.S. intelligence and security services, than to have them complete their basic pilot training in Europe or Asia, where they would have a much better chance of operating anonymously.

    And we get this insight from an expert on anonymity, right Wiz?

    3. The really cool part is how Al Qaeda was able to get the mayor of NYC to clean up all the evidence and ship it to China. OK, so Giuliani's clean-up crews missed one incriminating magic passport...nobody said these guys were perfect.

    4. Still OK too that these guys never did learn to fly even a small plane very well, let alone "a medium size civil aircraft," according to their instructors, and those who evaluated the skill of at least one of these so-called pilots, but that reported lack of skill apparently didn't prevent the suicidal Muslim maniacs from flying a 767 like no one else could, making that plane do things that Boeing couldn't imagine, and that experienced pilots like John Lear have said was impossible.

    5. 'Good thing too the "few thousand dollars" apparently left enough spare change for the devout Muslims to squeeze in a few lap dances before flying off to their date with all the heavenly virgins.

    6. Finally, this "anonymous" poster seems blissfully unaware of author Rowley's previous assertion that FBI personnel joked that some of their higher-up colleagues must have been working for Osama bin Laden:

    During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre–September 11th events[...] jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis's effort.)
     
    Yep, that's all they had to do: subvert the FBI, recruit the mayor of NYC, defeat the USAF, and fly those Boeings like nobody on Earth could...

    'Easy as shooting fish in a barrel...anonymously, of course.

    [Too many typos]

    That’s not a good advrrtisement for a good night’s sleep. Now tell us all what you acttually regard as the essential truths of the 9/11 story.

    And please try a sensible explanation of where all those Chapter 8 warnings fitted in.

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    Thank you. Some people look high and low, even pay big money for a good straight man.

    One essential truth of 9/11 is that the two main WTC towers were far too strong and massive to have been destroyed by a pair of 767s, their fuel, and the resulting fires, let alone to have been torn apart in the manner televised on September 11, 2001. Burning steel-framed buildings just don't fall down, but by the time all the dust had settled on 9/11, virtually the entire WTC complex had been destroyed.

    In the tragedy's aftermath, most of the apparent occult symbology surrounding this event has been obscured.

    As for Chapter 8, most of the blinking red lights were just window dressing, with most of the warnings as vague as they were breathless.

    Almost immediately after Pres. George W. Bush's inauguration, a "drumbeat" of intelligence reports is noted, reaching a crescendo in the summer of 2001, and warning of "spectacular" attacks by Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and other shadowy Arab and/or Muslim extremists.


    The system was blinking red
     
    But when the Minneapolis FBI office got a clue--a very good one, in fact, and they were not alone--the system ignored these blinking red lights because, you know, those were not the blinking red lights they were looking for:

    There was substantial disagreement between Minneapolis agents and FBI headquarters as to what Moussaoui was planning to do. In one conversation between a Minneapolis supervisor and a headquarters agent, the latter complained that Minneapolis’s FISA request was couched in a manner intended to get people “spun up.”The supervisor replied that was precisely his intent. He said he was “trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center.” The headquarters agent replied that this was not going to happen and that they did not know if Moussaoui was a terrorist.
     
    Moussaoui is probably just a dupe anyway, one of many setting the stage for the big event, caricatures of real terrorists, I'd suggest, whose first lesson is probably keep your mouth shut, rather than leave a trail of incriminating actions and statements even Inspector Clouseau might find.

    On August 23, DCI Tenet was briefed about the Moussaoui case in a briefing titled “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly.”

    Tenet was also told that Moussaoui wanted to learn to fly a 747, paid for his training in cash, was interested to learn the doors do not open in flight, and wanted to fly a simulated flight from London to New York...Tenet told us that no connection to al Qaeda was apparent to him at the time...
     

    https://9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

    So we see how it works. Unless you have some "apparent" connection to Al Qaeda, you don't get to blink a red light, or if you do, it won't be the blinking red light they're looking for.

    But then, mirabile dictu, in the immediate aftermath of the WTC attacks, the connections are made, the lights are blinking, fingerprints glowing; Tenet can see bin Laden's "...all over it."

    Clouseau would be impressed.

    Except that the FBI said it had no evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.


    “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”
    --Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI.
     
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm

    Hard evidence. Fancy that. Or maybe ship it to China.

    With their poor security, the alleged 9/11 suicide pilots should have been picked up by U.S. intelligence, investigative, and security services, and indeed they were, by a program known as Able Danger, but the 9/11 Commission maneuvered itself away from the issue because, as the Commissioners themselves have assured us, they were set up to fail.

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  • @Anonymous
    As you appear to be an assiduous 9/11 truther you might care to tell me how much of the 9/11 Commission report you have read and wbat I should infer from the ĺevidence in Chapter 8 of many warnings and apprehensions by the various agencies in the lead up to 9/11.

    I followed the link in the article about the sysyem "blinking red" and read a lot of interesting stuff at http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch8.pdf

    While truther versions differ enormously and are often mutually contradictory they do all require an explanation for how all the red flags mentioned in that chapter could have been arranged and arranged to be ignored as part of the great inside job.

    Assuming that the famous events of 9/11 were the only major attacks by Al Qaeda being planned in the three our four months before 9/11 there is naturally a question or two that arises about all tbe excitable messages that seem to have led to nothing. But that is surely not nearly as problematic as believing that all the traffic and warnings were part of the inside conspirators' plot.

    One frequent theme of truthers is dismissiveness of the idea that Osama bin Laden (allegedly ill in one unsupported formulation) from his hideout in Afghanistan could have orchesteated 9/11. Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders' conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.

    If you never read informative books you will always be played by governments!

    September 11, 2016 Al Qaeda: The Data Base

    Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

    In 1979 Carters National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski went into Pakistans border regions with Afghanistan to give a little pep talk to some prospective majehadeen (Holy Warriors).

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    [Too many typos.]

    Have you read any informative books? No evidence in your reply to suggest the relevance of your opening sentence.

    I would suggest you try some wide reading and concentrated thinking about it to avoid being taken in by such sites as "globslresearch". All Robin Cook was pointing out was that Al Qaeda was formed as a result of Western intelligence training and equipping them for action against the Russians in Afghanistan and that it was a pity their sponsors didn't anticipate their turning against the West when the Russians were defeated. Nothing new or surprising in that. So... do you hsve a point?
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  • @JerseyJeffersonian
    The answer to your final question is, sadly, the FBI leadership, safely entrusted into the care of the fixers and sycophants such as Mueller and Comey, is assuring that the job that they want done is done; cover the tracks, obfuscate the truth, destroy the evidence so the perpetrators can walk away without their clothing mussed. If this is carried off with some degree of finesse, the FBI's institutional power and reputation will succeed in shielding the criminals. It's been working just great so far for the criminals. I hope the wheels come off of the scam. I guess we shall see how clever and authoritative Trump and Sessions really can be.

    Personally, I don't care much for Trump, but as he was legitimately elected as President of the Republic, this whole exercise amounts to a coup d'etat, and I care way, way less for that. Let slip the dogs of war.

    I agree.

    But where is the threshold in all this ?

    At what point does this massive pilfering of our nation’s wealth lead to the complete collapse of the balance sheet of the country ?

    At what point, Jersey Jeffersonian ?

    At what point does the FBI’s (or ANY government agency’s) inaction in holding those who have defrauded us to account, lead to the complete insolvency of our nation ?

    Let’s look at the KBR “pilfer” in Iraq (as one example), and analyze it for a moment, so we can understand what’s going on.

    8000 troops stationed at this one “camp”…Okay ?

    For arguments sake, lets say it costs the taxpayer one hundred dollars to feed one soldier per day.

    (just for arguments sake).

    8000 (troops) x $100 = $800,000.00 per day .

    Yet KBR was billing out, to the taxpayer, for 40,000 troops.(32,000 of which, did not EXIST)

    40,000(troops) x $ 100= $4,000,000.00 per day.

    This represents a pilfering of taxpayer money of 3.2 million dollars per day by KBR..Correct?

    This is pure profit for the”defrauders” and heinous debt for the taxpayer.

    Lets look at it over time…Every TEN DAYS…this represents THIRTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS in “Pilfering”..and every hundred days…. THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS in PURE PROFIT pilfered from the taxpayer and pocketed by the KBR oligarchs.

    This was just one camp, and just one issue, food.

    This is THE PROBLEM, Jersey.

    The whole REASON why the UNITED STATES is over TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS in debt today, is because all the “internal mechanisms” to RESTRAIN this kind of behavior is GONE.

    Vanished.

    The last bastion our country HAD to PROTECT US from this “heinous defrauding”…., the FBI, ….is AWOL….absent at the wheel…

    “Adios Amigos ”

    Its death to the United States,(from within) by a “thousand cuts”.

    It’s a national nightmare, and a supreme tragedy for us all.

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  • What’s up with commenting? Used to see a preview of my comments, but not any more. Is code broken, or is this a new “feature”?

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  • Don’t forget the conviction of Martha Stewart; given what’s being revealed about Comey, that conviction is cast in a new light.

    The mythology of this episode, repeated endlessly throughout the press, is that Comey and Mueller did something significant and lasting in that hospital room. They didn’t. Only the legal rationale for their unconstitutional actions was tweaked.

    Sounds like Comey-Mueller won a great victory for Bureaucrats Covering Their Asses. Congrats boys.

    According to Jonathan Turley, one of the best and most respected legal experts, Comey may have violated the law using his professor friend to leak what he thought was an incriminating memorandum documenting Trump’s “hope” that he would lay off Flynn because Flynn was a “good guy.

    It doesn’t take an expert to know that Comey broke the law. Federal law makes a crime of sharing info gained from federal investigations with 3rd parties without authorization. That’s why Comey didn’t consult the FBI (which is standard procedure) as to whether it was legal for him to release the info.

    Mueller’s appointment should be cancelled and his office liquidated if that can be done in some fashion.

    AFAIK PotUS has power to do both.

    My old San Fran days memory recalls that “liberal” Democrat Diane Feinstein nominated neo-nazi Republican Mueller to US Attorney for N. California. I recall some thought because her husband was under investigation for a corrupt arms deal. That’s just my memory

    People keep saying Mueller is a Republican, can I get a cite on this?

    The 911 cover up team is now about to take President Trump down over yet another false flag, and this team would include the leadership of both parties.

    I think dem rank-and-file are far surer of this than Mueller and his team are. Comey consulted with Mueller every step of the way, so Mueller knows he had no case for Comey to sabotage (which Comey has certainly done). Mueller & co. probably have a political goal; slow-walk this phony investigation until after the 2018 elections, so Big Media can keep their fake news rumor-mill going. Then it will die an obscure, whimpering death.

    Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked.

    This is obvious to anyone who knows anything about IT (although it admittedly hinges on “well executed”). You can originate a cyber-attack from anywhere, public libraries or Starbucks included.

    Remember when Trump applied labels to each of his opponents, then devastated them? “Little Marco” et al? Now there’s “Comey the Leaker”

    Trump seems to have settled on “Comey the Coward,” as implied in a recent tweet.

    If there is a recording, then why do you need a memo? Why leak what you claim what was said? If you get anything wrong it will show you to be a liar.

    The only thing Comey managed not to leak was the same fact he got fired for obstructing: the fact that Trump was not and had not been under investigation.

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  • @alexander
    Dear Ms. Rowley,

    Thank you for an excellent and informative article.

    What happens to the meaning of the rule of law, what happens to the integrity of our nation , and its future, when its leading "crime fighters" wholly abdicate their role to engage and confront the greatest of crimes ever foisted on the American People in the history of our nation ?

    "Terror Fraud".
    "War Fraud ."
    and "Banking Fraud."

    What happens, Ms. Rowley ?

    I , for one, remember like it was yesterday, when we were all told "with resolute certainty" it was SADDAM HUSSEIN who launched the "anthrax attacks" against Senator Leahy's and Tom Brokaw's offices. The entire media was wholly complicit in driving home this TRUTH....they even went so far as to analyze the composite structures of the "anthrax spores" showing a "dead match" with the strains known to be in Iraq.

    At the time,I believed them completely....Why wouldn't I ?.

    My God, Ms. Rowley, who would ever LIE about something like that ?

    It is the EXACT equivalent of informing all the American people that it was SWEDEN (not Japan)who launched the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    This is "Terror Fraud" of the most heinous kind imaginable, Ms Rowley.Every single individual complicit in this evil deception should be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAD BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    I also recall, like it was yesterday, the absolute certainty of the impending IMMINENT THREAT of "mushroom clouds" and WMD's launched against our major cities by SADDAM, if we did not attack Iraq , ASAP.

    This was reported to every single American citizen, by every major news outlet, as GODS HONEST TRUTH.

    This is "War Fraud", Ms, Rowley, heinous lying ....WAR FRAUD....the greatest crime imaginable.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    Unbelievable.

    I recall too, our titanic subprime meltdown fiasco, like it was yesterday.

    How they managed to give a TRIPLE A rating, to worthless subprime bundles,and sell them around the world, like GOLD,...or how CITI kept the entire record of its subprime trades, OFF BOOK....deceiving its investors......

    This is BANKING FRAUD, Ms. Rowley.....it is crystal clear..

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous fraud are responsible for vaporizing nearly FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money....and doing such inestimable damage to our nation's balance sheet, both our currency and our bonds may now be in jeopardy.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous "criminal" fraud, have caused immense suffering to hundreds of millions of innocent people around the world...wholly INNOCENT people .

    Unconscionable, "heartbreaking" suffering...Ms. Rowley.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    The question that lingers here, Ms. Rowley, is if the FBI won't do their job, WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS, why do we even need the FBI at all ?

    The answer to your final question is, sadly, the FBI leadership, safely entrusted into the care of the fixers and sycophants such as Mueller and Comey, is assuring that the job that they want done is done; cover the tracks, obfuscate the truth, destroy the evidence so the perpetrators can walk away without their clothing mussed. If this is carried off with some degree of finesse, the FBI’s institutional power and reputation will succeed in shielding the criminals. It’s been working just great so far for the criminals. I hope the wheels come off of the scam. I guess we shall see how clever and authoritative Trump and Sessions really can be.

    Personally, I don’t care much for Trump, but as he was legitimately elected as President of the Republic, this whole exercise amounts to a coup d’etat, and I care way, way less for that. Let slip the dogs of war.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    I agree.

    But where is the threshold in all this ?

    At what point does this massive pilfering of our nation's wealth lead to the complete collapse of the balance sheet of the country ?

    At what point, Jersey Jeffersonian ?

    At what point does the FBI's (or ANY government agency's) inaction in holding those who have defrauded us to account, lead to the complete insolvency of our nation ?

    Let's look at the KBR "pilfer" in Iraq (as one example), and analyze it for a moment, so we can understand what's going on.

    8000 troops stationed at this one "camp"...Okay ?

    For arguments sake, lets say it costs the taxpayer one hundred dollars to feed one soldier per day.

    (just for arguments sake).

    8000 (troops) x $100 = $800,000.00 per day .

    Yet KBR was billing out, to the taxpayer, for 40,000 troops.(32,000 of which, did not EXIST)

    40,000(troops) x $ 100= $4,000,000.00 per day.

    This represents a pilfering of taxpayer money of 3.2 million dollars per day by KBR..Correct?

    This is pure profit for the"defrauders" and heinous debt for the taxpayer.

    Lets look at it over time...Every TEN DAYS...this represents THIRTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS in "Pilfering"..and every hundred days.... THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS in PURE PROFIT pilfered from the taxpayer and pocketed by the KBR oligarchs.

    This was just one camp, and just one issue, food.

    This is THE PROBLEM, Jersey.

    The whole REASON why the UNITED STATES is over TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS in debt today, is because all the "internal mechanisms" to RESTRAIN this kind of behavior is GONE.

    Vanished.

    The last bastion our country HAD to PROTECT US from this "heinous defrauding"...., the FBI, ....is AWOL....absent at the wheel...

    "Adios Amigos "

    Its death to the United States,(from within) by a "thousand cuts".

    It's a national nightmare, and a supreme tragedy for us all.
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  • @Anonymous
    As you appear to be an assiduous 9/11 truther you might care to tell me how much of the 9/11 Commission report you have read and wbat I should infer from the ĺevidence in Chapter 8 of many warnings and apprehensions by the various agencies in the lead up to 9/11.

    I followed the link in the article about the sysyem "blinking red" and read a lot of interesting stuff at http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch8.pdf

    While truther versions differ enormously and are often mutually contradictory they do all require an explanation for how all the red flags mentioned in that chapter could have been arranged and arranged to be ignored as part of the great inside job.

    Assuming that the famous events of 9/11 were the only major attacks by Al Qaeda being planned in the three our four months before 9/11 there is naturally a question or two that arises about all tbe excitable messages that seem to have led to nothing. But that is surely not nearly as problematic as believing that all the traffic and warnings were part of the inside conspirators' plot.

    One frequent theme of truthers is dismissiveness of the idea that Osama bin Laden (allegedly ill in one unsupported formulation) from his hideout in Afghanistan could have orchesteated 9/11. Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders' conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.

    Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders’ conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.

    The characteristic typo-laced, soporific prose defeats the gee whiz attempt to go all anonymous, but is nevertheless a good example of a common but fallacious argument type known as special pleading.

    And so, fortified with a good night’s sleep behind me, and some special java before me, I will now reply with some special sarcasm.

    1. I don’t know where the idea was conceived of flying an aircraft into a building, and former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice didn’t know either. Fortunately for her, she was allowed to amend, retract, modify her statement that “No one could have imagined…” terrorists might do such a thing before she testified to the always vigilant 9/11 Commission.

    2. Everyone would agree, of course, that if Al Qaeda or one of its mysterious affiliates decided to train some suicide pilots for an attack on the United States, it would make much more sense to send them right into the U.S. for their training, where they might more easily attract the attention of the various U.S. intelligence and security services, than to have them complete their basic pilot training in Europe or Asia, where they would have a much better chance of operating anonymously.

    And we get this insight from an expert on anonymity, right Wiz?

    3. The really cool part is how Al Qaeda was able to get the mayor of NYC to clean up all the evidence and ship it to China. OK, so Giuliani’s clean-up crews missed one incriminating magic passport…nobody said these guys were perfect.

    4. Still OK too that these guys never did learn to fly even a small plane very well, let alone “a medium size civil aircraft,” according to their instructors, and those who evaluated the skill of at least one of these so-called pilots, but that reported lack of skill apparently didn’t prevent the suicidal Muslim maniacs from flying a 767 like no one else could, making that plane do things that Boeing couldn’t imagine, and that experienced pilots like John Lear have said was impossible.

    5. ‘Good thing too the “few thousand dollars” apparently left enough spare change for the devout Muslims to squeeze in a few lap dances before flying off to their date with all the heavenly virgins.

    6. Finally, this “anonymous” poster seems blissfully unaware of author Rowley’s previous assertion that FBI personnel joked that some of their higher-up colleagues must have been working for Osama bin Laden:

    During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre–September 11th events[...] jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis’s effort.)

    Yep, that’s all they had to do: subvert the FBI, recruit the mayor of NYC, defeat the USAF, and fly those Boeings like nobody on Earth could…

    ‘Easy as shooting fish in a barrel…anonymously, of course.

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    [Too many typos]

    That's not a good advrrtisement for a good night's sleep. Now tell us all what you acttually regard as the essential truths of the 9/11 story.

    And please try a sensible explanation of where all those Chapter 8 warnings fitted in.
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  • @Anonymous
    Actually what is right about your post ia that it draws attention to the likelihood that the President would have recordings of all such conversations (not ones when he says "come for a walk with me while I stretch my legs in the garden") and that, anyway, a canny fellow like Comey would assume so and, accordingly, make notes immediately afterwards to ensure that he was right on all the key points. Which all leads to the conclusion that recordings would bear out Comey.

    If there is a recording, then why do you need a memo? Why leak what you claim what was said? If you get anything wrong it will show you to be a liar.

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    The answer to your first question - though I suspect you mean it to be rhetorical - is obvious. You make notes because you don't have access to the recording.

    Why "leak" ls a tendentious question. He also gave evidence to Congress. But the substantive answer is that
    (a) he took notes which he was sufficiently confident were correct that he was happy to quote them,
    and/or
    (b) that he was confident the President wouldn't disclose the recordings and that if he did it would be damaging to the President's credit.

    I would add that there should be no surprise that a sensible person should want to have an accurate record of his conversations with the President.

    I have omitted one possibility, viz. that the President said such potentially embarrassing things that Comey could lie freely knowing that the President woulfn't call him out. But that would run the risk that only the narrowly relevant part of the recording would have to be disclosed.
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  • A battle cry: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47223.htm

    “We need more jobs, a better stock market, no unnecessary wars, the end of government-mandated multiculturalism and diversity, rebuilt infrastructure, elimination of illegal aliens and street gangs, a border wall, lower taxes, the repeal of hate-speech laws, fairer trade, a lengthy ban on all immigration, an end to abortion, and minimal federal regulations. All of these things are indispensable.
    But more urgently important than all of these needs, Mr. Trump, is for Americans to see you and Attorney General Sessions vigorously use the now unenforced law to, figuratively, draw a vast effusion of blood from the utterly lawless American elite. Both of you already have in your possessions the basis for indictments of:
    –James Comey for perjury, and he and all FBI officials who conspired with him to support the Clinton campaign
    –All three Clintons, both Obamas, and Loretta Lynch
    –The Clinton Foundation, its leadership team, some of its contributors, and all of the State Department and other national government officials who willing aided the Foundation while Clinton was Secretary of State
    –John Podesta and his DNC leadership team
    –Eric Holder and all those DoJ officials involved in Fast&Furious
    –Lois Learner and the IRS officials who persecuted conservatives
    –All leakers of classified information, most especially serving and former senior U.S. Intelligence Community officials
    –George Soros and all U.S.-citizen, billionaire big shots who fund the violence of Democratic demonstrators
    –All the Democratic operatives who have rigged voter lists and otherwise assisted the dead and illegal aliens to vote
    –All of the mayors, governors, judges, police chiefs, ministers, priests, NGOs, and university leaders who establish and maintain “sanctuary” domains
    –The people who killed DNC employee Seth Rich, as well those responsible for the long list of murders of people who crossed the Clintons…

    If you fail to do so, you leave Americans only one option. Their legitimate means of eliminating the gangster-elite, when the law fails or is not applied, is provided by our Founders and the 1st and 2nd Amendments they bequeathed to their posterity.
    And after all is said and done, Mr. President and Judge Sessions, if you fail to do your constitutional duty, or are prevented from doing it, the gangster-elite will quickly come to understand why the Lord allowed men of ingenuity and skill to create the AR-15.”

    Michael F. Scheuer is a former CIA intelligence officer, American blogger, author, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is currently an adjunct professor at Georgetown University’s Center for Peace and Security Studies. http://non-intervention.com

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47223.htm

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  • […] The Unz Review: Comey and Mueller: Russiagate’s Mythical Heroes COLEEN ROWLEY […]

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  • @Che Guava
    This was an interesting article.

    Counterpunch does publish many iInteresting articles, once upon a time, I was to considering subscription to the print edition, but no credit card, and the 80 to 90% idiocy on the site,

    The article at the link below is not unrepresentative, though it is at the bottom end of the scale.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/09/lessons-from-portlands-clashes-with-fascists

    Reply, agree, disagree etc. should also include ‘Thanks’, but thanks for that.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76
    This will be something you will want to create a file and share with others.

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-

    As you appear to be an assiduous 9/11 truther you might care to tell me how much of the 9/11 Commission report you have read and wbat I should infer from the ĺevidence in Chapter 8 of many warnings and apprehensions by the various agencies in the lead up to 9/11.

    I followed the link in the article about the sysyem “blinking red” and read a lot of interesting stuff at http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch8.pdf

    While truther versions differ enormously and are often mutually contradictory they do all require an explanation for how all the red flags mentioned in that chapter could have been arranged and arranged to be ignored as part of the great inside job.

    Assuming that the famous events of 9/11 were the only major attacks by Al Qaeda being planned in the three our four months before 9/11 there is naturally a question or two that arises about all tbe excitable messages that seem to have led to nothing. But that is surely not nearly as problematic as believing that all the traffic and warnings were part of the inside conspirators’ plot.

    One frequent theme of truthers is dismissiveness of the idea that Osama bin Laden (allegedly ill in one unsupported formulation) from his hideout in Afghanistan could have orchesteated 9/11. Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders’ conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.

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    Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders’ conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.
     
    The characteristic typo-laced, soporific prose defeats the gee whiz attempt to go all anonymous, but is nevertheless a good example of a common but fallacious argument type known as special pleading.

    And so, fortified with a good night's sleep behind me, and some special java before me, I will now reply with some special sarcasm.

    1. I don't know where the idea was conceived of flying an aircraft into a building, and former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice didn't know either. Fortunately for her, she was allowed to amend, retract, modify her statement that "No one could have imagined..." terrorists might do such a thing before she testified to the always vigilant 9/11 Commission.

    2. Everyone would agree, of course, that if Al Qaeda or one of its mysterious affiliates decided to train some suicide pilots for an attack on the United States, it would make much more sense to send them right into the U.S. for their training, where they might more easily attract the attention of the various U.S. intelligence and security services, than to have them complete their basic pilot training in Europe or Asia, where they would have a much better chance of operating anonymously.

    And we get this insight from an expert on anonymity, right Wiz?

    3. The really cool part is how Al Qaeda was able to get the mayor of NYC to clean up all the evidence and ship it to China. OK, so Giuliani's clean-up crews missed one incriminating magic passport...nobody said these guys were perfect.

    4. Still OK too that these guys never did learn to fly even a small plane very well, let alone "a medium size civil aircraft," according to their instructors, and those who evaluated the skill of at least one of these so-called pilots, but that reported lack of skill apparently didn't prevent the suicidal Muslim maniacs from flying a 767 like no one else could, making that plane do things that Boeing couldn't imagine, and that experienced pilots like John Lear have said was impossible.

    5. 'Good thing too the "few thousand dollars" apparently left enough spare change for the devout Muslims to squeeze in a few lap dances before flying off to their date with all the heavenly virgins.

    6. Finally, this "anonymous" poster seems blissfully unaware of author Rowley's previous assertion that FBI personnel joked that some of their higher-up colleagues must have been working for Osama bin Laden:

    During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre–September 11th events[...] jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis's effort.)
     
    Yep, that's all they had to do: subvert the FBI, recruit the mayor of NYC, defeat the USAF, and fly those Boeings like nobody on Earth could...

    'Easy as shooting fish in a barrel...anonymously, of course.
    , @Agent76
    If you never read informative books you will always be played by governments!

    September 11, 2016 Al Qaeda: The Data Base

    Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

    In 1979 Carters National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski went into Pakistans border regions with Afghanistan to give a little pep talk to some prospective majehadeen (Holy Warriors).

    https://youtu.be/nA-5T2l54_8
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  • @annamaria
    The criminal enterprise is on the go with the criminals (supported by the moneyed) wandering free and listen to: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196617.html
    "On the pro-Islamism side, we note the presence, for the United States, of John Brennan (ex-Director of the CIA) and his ex-subordinates Avril Haines and David Cohen (financing of terrorism). For the United Kingdom, Sir John Sawers (ex-Director of MI6 and a long-time protector of the Brotherhood) and General Nicholas Houghton (ex-Chief of Staff, who prepared the land invasion of Syria). For France, General Benoît Puga (ex-Chief of Staff for the Elysée and commander of the Special Forces in Syria) and Bruno Tertrais (neo-conservative strategist for the Ministry of Defence). Finally, for the private sector, Henry Kravis (Director of the investment fund KKR, and unofficial treasurer for Daesh) and General David Petraeus (co-founder of Daesh)."

    More on the same: "...the people who organised the Caliphate in order to cut the « Silk Road » in Iraq and Syria, and then the war in Ukraine in order to cut the « new Silk Road », are preparing, preventatively, to open a third front in the Philippines and a fourth in Venezuela in order to cut off other communiction projects."

    This will be something you will want to create a file and share with others.

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    As you appear to be an assiduous 9/11 truther you might care to tell me how much of the 9/11 Commission report you have read and wbat I should infer from the ĺevidence in Chapter 8 of many warnings and apprehensions by the various agencies in the lead up to 9/11.

    I followed the link in the article about the sysyem "blinking red" and read a lot of interesting stuff at http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Ch8.pdf

    While truther versions differ enormously and are often mutually contradictory they do all require an explanation for how all the red flags mentioned in that chapter could have been arranged and arranged to be ignored as part of the great inside job.

    Assuming that the famous events of 9/11 were the only major attacks by Al Qaeda being planned in the three our four months before 9/11 there is naturally a question or two that arises about all tbe excitable messages that seem to have led to nothing. But that is surely not nearly as problematic as believing that all the traffic and warnings were part of the inside conspirators' plot.

    One frequent theme of truthers is dismissiveness of the idea that Osama bin Laden (allegedly ill in one unsupported formulation) from his hideout in Afghanistan could have orchesteated 9/11. Why it should be harder to believe possuble than it is too believe in an elaborate insiders' conspiracy escapes me. All that Al Qaeda had to do was conceive the idea of highjacking civil aircraft and forcing them to fly into buildings, identify which of its hundreds or thousands of potential suicide attackers could be relied on to go to the US and learn to fly a medium size civil aircraft and then give them the few thousand dollars they needed to set up the attacks.

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  • @alexander
    It seems totally unbelievable.

    I recall reading a 2005(6?) Vanity Fair article that shocked me to the core.

    According to the article ,in this one camp in "Iraq" where our troops had been stationed, KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, had been billing out to the taxpayer (perhaps for years) for full meals for FORTY THOUSAND TROOPS....but they were only actually feeding EIGHT THOUSAND.

    Unbelievable !!


    Excuse my french,...but I remember thinking "What the F#ck is going on here....."

    "What are these people doing ?."

    I mean is the the "exception"....... or the RULE. ?!?

    These people not only DEFRAUD us into a catastrophic WAR, they actually have the gall to pilfer and rob US BLIND in the process, every which way til Sunday ?

    These people are absolutely DISGRACEFUL human beings.

    The WORST of the WORST.

    Support the troops (the USA style): http://thesaker.is/russian-general-staff-briefing-on-the-situation-in-syria-english-subtitles/
    From comment section:
    “…the forces of the US Coalition, read US Armed Forces, are actively aiding and assisting ISIL in their fight against Syria.”
    “… the Russians are able to say that the civil war is over and the SAA is basically just fighting ISIS and Al Nusra.”

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  • @Agent76
    You should read verify anything and everything as I have and also share this with others. Sources are in the link's at the bottom of the web page as well.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    The nicely-sectioned steel beams and girders were soon ordered by New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

    The criminal enterprise is on the go with the criminals (supported by the moneyed) wandering free and listen to: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196617.html
    “On the pro-Islamism side, we note the presence, for the United States, of John Brennan (ex-Director of the CIA) and his ex-subordinates Avril Haines and David Cohen (financing of terrorism). For the United Kingdom, Sir John Sawers (ex-Director of MI6 and a long-time protector of the Brotherhood) and General Nicholas Houghton (ex-Chief of Staff, who prepared the land invasion of Syria). For France, General Benoît Puga (ex-Chief of Staff for the Elysée and commander of the Special Forces in Syria) and Bruno Tertrais (neo-conservative strategist for the Ministry of Defence). Finally, for the private sector, Henry Kravis (Director of the investment fund KKR, and unofficial treasurer for Daesh) and General David Petraeus (co-founder of Daesh).”

    More on the same: “…the people who organised the Caliphate in order to cut the « Silk Road » in Iraq and Syria, and then the war in Ukraine in order to cut the « new Silk Road », are preparing, preventatively, to open a third front in the Philippines and a fourth in Venezuela in order to cut off other communiction projects.”

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    This will be something you will want to create a file and share with others.

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-

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  • @Agent76
    The criminals in government are never and will never be held accountable.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA

    It seems totally unbelievable.

    I recall reading a 2005(6?) Vanity Fair article that shocked me to the core.

    According to the article ,in this one camp in “Iraq” where our troops had been stationed, KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, had been billing out to the taxpayer (perhaps for years) for full meals for FORTY THOUSAND TROOPS….but they were only actually feeding EIGHT THOUSAND.

    Unbelievable !!

    Excuse my french,…but I remember thinking “What the F#ck is going on here…..”

    “What are these people doing ?.”

    I mean is the the “exception”……. or the RULE. ?!?

    These people not only DEFRAUD us into a catastrophic WAR, they actually have the gall to pilfer and rob US BLIND in the process, every which way til Sunday ?

    These people are absolutely DISGRACEFUL human beings.

    The WORST of the WORST.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Support the troops (the USA style): http://thesaker.is/russian-general-staff-briefing-on-the-situation-in-syria-english-subtitles/
    From comment section:
    "...the forces of the US Coalition, read US Armed Forces, are actively aiding and assisting ISIL in their fight against Syria."
    "... the Russians are able to say that the civil war is over and the SAA is basically just fighting ISIS and Al Nusra."
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  • gda says:

    Remember when Trump applied labels to each of his opponents, then devastated them? “Little Marco” et al? Now there’s “Comey the Leaker”

    Forever in our minds. Comey the Leaker.

    Wasn’t that a song in the 60′s? By the Who?

    They call me ‘The Leaker’
    I’ve been searching low and high
    I won’t get to get what I’m after
    Till the day I die

    People tend to hate me
    ‘Cause I never smile
    As I ransack their homes
    They wanna shake my hand

    Focusing on nowhere
    Investigating miles
    I’m a leaker
    I’m a really desperate man

    I won’t get to get what I’m after
    Till the day I die

    Rather appropriate, is it not?

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  • @alexander
    Dear Ms. Rowley,

    Thank you for an excellent and informative article.

    What happens to the meaning of the rule of law, what happens to the integrity of our nation , and its future, when its leading "crime fighters" wholly abdicate their role to engage and confront the greatest of crimes ever foisted on the American People in the history of our nation ?

    "Terror Fraud".
    "War Fraud ."
    and "Banking Fraud."

    What happens, Ms. Rowley ?

    I , for one, remember like it was yesterday, when we were all told "with resolute certainty" it was SADDAM HUSSEIN who launched the "anthrax attacks" against Senator Leahy's and Tom Brokaw's offices. The entire media was wholly complicit in driving home this TRUTH....they even went so far as to analyze the composite structures of the "anthrax spores" showing a "dead match" with the strains known to be in Iraq.

    At the time,I believed them completely....Why wouldn't I ?.

    My God, Ms. Rowley, who would ever LIE about something like that ?

    It is the EXACT equivalent of informing all the American people that it was SWEDEN (not Japan)who launched the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    This is "Terror Fraud" of the most heinous kind imaginable, Ms Rowley.Every single individual complicit in this evil deception should be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAD BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    I also recall, like it was yesterday, the absolute certainty of the impending IMMINENT THREAT of "mushroom clouds" and WMD's launched against our major cities by SADDAM, if we did not attack Iraq , ASAP.

    This was reported to every single American citizen, by every major news outlet, as GODS HONEST TRUTH.

    This is "War Fraud", Ms, Rowley, heinous lying ....WAR FRAUD....the greatest crime imaginable.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    Unbelievable.

    I recall too, our titanic subprime meltdown fiasco, like it was yesterday.

    How they managed to give a TRIPLE A rating, to worthless subprime bundles,and sell them around the world, like GOLD,...or how CITI kept the entire record of its subprime trades, OFF BOOK....deceiving its investors......

    This is BANKING FRAUD, Ms. Rowley.....it is crystal clear..

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous fraud are responsible for vaporizing nearly FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money....and doing such inestimable damage to our nation's balance sheet, both our currency and our bonds may now be in jeopardy.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous "criminal" fraud, have caused immense suffering to hundreds of millions of innocent people around the world...wholly INNOCENT people .

    Unconscionable, "heartbreaking" suffering...Ms. Rowley.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    The question that lingers here, Ms. Rowley, is if the FBI won't do their job, WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS, why do we even need the FBI at all ?

    The criminals in government are never and will never be held accountable.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    It seems totally unbelievable.

    I recall reading a 2005(6?) Vanity Fair article that shocked me to the core.

    According to the article ,in this one camp in "Iraq" where our troops had been stationed, KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, had been billing out to the taxpayer (perhaps for years) for full meals for FORTY THOUSAND TROOPS....but they were only actually feeding EIGHT THOUSAND.

    Unbelievable !!


    Excuse my french,...but I remember thinking "What the F#ck is going on here....."

    "What are these people doing ?."

    I mean is the the "exception"....... or the RULE. ?!?

    These people not only DEFRAUD us into a catastrophic WAR, they actually have the gall to pilfer and rob US BLIND in the process, every which way til Sunday ?

    These people are absolutely DISGRACEFUL human beings.

    The WORST of the WORST.

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  • @Priss Factor
    Deep State messes up and sheeple run wild.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P395KqTvXw

    Nice share and this is one my favorites.

    Sheep go “Baa!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Q-bDwbkPY

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  • @Anonymous
    As a big factor in Comey's thinking just before the election when new material possibly pertinent to Clinton's irregullarities came to FBI attention would have been his own self interest it seems reasonable to suppose that both his embarrassment of Clinton by his communication to Congress and his exoneration of her were part of a process which began with "how bad could it be for me if Clinton wins [as I sulppose she will] and something really bad turns up from the investigation of the emails?". Then, given it was true, the exonerating statement is a no brainer (he restores his position as well as he can with Clinton in case she wins and he inly diminishes his credit with Trump slightly if Trumo wins).

    Anonymous allot folks just do not know the history of the FBI on purpose through government schooling and propaganda.

    Friday 30 March 2012 Enemies: A History of the FBI – review The ominous power and scandalous history of the FBI

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/30/enemies-fbi-history-weiner-review

    Jul 7, 2016 Justice Vs. “Just Us”: Of Course the FBI Let Hillary off the Hook

    The only thing that surprises me is that anyone is surprised by this.

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  • @geokat62

    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:
     
    Not sure anyone would accuse Philip Giraldi (former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA) of someone who is "within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult":

    If there had been such a gathering, I would imagine that the Washington Post would have found out about it on the next day as intelligence officers are gregarious and like to talk. This has been my principal problem with the debate in some quarters about the 9/11 Commission. Their report did indeed miss many important angles in order to protect certain governmental interests, but if there had been a genuine conspiracy involving what must have been hundreds of people to demolish the Twin Towers with explosives, it surely would have leaked long ago.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/
     

    You should read verify anything and everything as I have and also share this with others. Sources are in the link’s at the bottom of the web page as well.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    The nicely-sectioned steel beams and girders were soon ordered by New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    The criminal enterprise is on the go with the criminals (supported by the moneyed) wandering free and listen to: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196617.html
    "On the pro-Islamism side, we note the presence, for the United States, of John Brennan (ex-Director of the CIA) and his ex-subordinates Avril Haines and David Cohen (financing of terrorism). For the United Kingdom, Sir John Sawers (ex-Director of MI6 and a long-time protector of the Brotherhood) and General Nicholas Houghton (ex-Chief of Staff, who prepared the land invasion of Syria). For France, General Benoît Puga (ex-Chief of Staff for the Elysée and commander of the Special Forces in Syria) and Bruno Tertrais (neo-conservative strategist for the Ministry of Defence). Finally, for the private sector, Henry Kravis (Director of the investment fund KKR, and unofficial treasurer for Daesh) and General David Petraeus (co-founder of Daesh)."

    More on the same: "...the people who organised the Caliphate in order to cut the « Silk Road » in Iraq and Syria, and then the war in Ukraine in order to cut the « new Silk Road », are preparing, preventatively, to open a third front in the Philippines and a fourth in Venezuela in order to cut off other communiction projects."
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  • @Dan Hayes
    As Colleen Rowley has so thoroughly and unequivocally demonstrated here, both Comey and Mueller are living examples of the Peter Principle (that managers rise to the level of their incompetence).

    Peter Principle – “managers rise to the level of their incompetence.”

    Particularly when the incompetence is profitable for the influential moneymakers and powerbrokers. A sample: “Terrorism: A Thriving Industry for US-NATO Coalition” http://www.globalresearch.ca/selected-articles-terrorism-a-thriving-industry-for-us-nato-coalition/5594198
    “For years, the UK has been pouring millions into the Syrian opposition. In 2012, the British Foreign Secretary at the time, William Hague, admitted that Britain had been helping the Syrian rebels in a “practical and non-lethal way,” and vowed to increase British assistance. As the Independent noted, this non-lethal aid consisted of Britain sending the Syrian opposition £8m-worth of body armour, vehicles with ballistic protection, trucks, forklift trucks, communications equipment, laptops, water purification kits and other equipment needed to fight a war. In 2013, a report claimed that Britain was involved in an operation with other European states and the US to send the Syrian rebels 3,000 tons of weapons, sent in 75 planeloads, from Zagreb to the rebels.”

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  • @geokat62

    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:
     
    Not sure anyone would accuse Philip Giraldi (former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA) of someone who is "within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult":

    If there had been such a gathering, I would imagine that the Washington Post would have found out about it on the next day as intelligence officers are gregarious and like to talk. This has been my principal problem with the debate in some quarters about the 9/11 Commission. Their report did indeed miss many important angles in order to protect certain governmental interests, but if there had been a genuine conspiracy involving what must have been hundreds of people to demolish the Twin Towers with explosives, it surely would have leaked long ago.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/
     

    The secrets of Bletchley Park and the breaking of enigma were kept for over 30 years by thousands of people.

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  • Dear Ms. Rowley,

    Thank you for an excellent and informative article.

    What happens to the meaning of the rule of law, what happens to the integrity of our nation , and its future, when its leading “crime fighters” wholly abdicate their role to engage and confront the greatest of crimes ever foisted on the American People in the history of our nation ?

    “Terror Fraud”.
    “War Fraud .”
    and “Banking Fraud.”

    What happens, Ms. Rowley ?

    I , for one, remember like it was yesterday, when we were all told “with resolute certainty” it was SADDAM HUSSEIN who launched the “anthrax attacks” against Senator Leahy’s and Tom Brokaw’s offices. The entire media was wholly complicit in driving home this TRUTH….they even went so far as to analyze the composite structures of the “anthrax spores” showing a “dead match” with the strains known to be in Iraq.

    At the time,I believed them completely….Why wouldn’t I ?.

    My God, Ms. Rowley, who would ever LIE about something like that ?

    It is the EXACT equivalent of informing all the American people that it was SWEDEN (not Japan)who launched the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    This is “Terror Fraud” of the most heinous kind imaginable, Ms Rowley.Every single individual complicit in this evil deception should be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAD BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    I also recall, like it was yesterday, the absolute certainty of the impending IMMINENT THREAT of “mushroom clouds” and WMD’s launched against our major cities by SADDAM, if we did not attack Iraq , ASAP.

    This was reported to every single American citizen, by every major news outlet, as GODS HONEST TRUTH.

    This is “War Fraud”, Ms, Rowley, heinous lying ….WAR FRAUD….the greatest crime imaginable.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    Unbelievable.

    I recall too, our titanic subprime meltdown fiasco, like it was yesterday.

    How they managed to give a TRIPLE A rating, to worthless subprime bundles,and sell them around the world, like GOLD,…or how CITI kept the entire record of its subprime trades, OFF BOOK….deceiving its investors……

    This is BANKING FRAUD, Ms. Rowley…..it is crystal clear..

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous fraud are responsible for vaporizing nearly FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money….and doing such inestimable damage to our nation’s balance sheet, both our currency and our bonds may now be in jeopardy.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    These acts of heinous “criminal” fraud, have caused immense suffering to hundreds of millions of innocent people around the world…wholly INNOCENT people .

    Unconscionable, “heartbreaking” suffering…Ms. Rowley.

    YET NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT.

    The question that lingers here, Ms. Rowley, is if the FBI won’t do their job, WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS, why do we even need the FBI at all ?

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    The criminals in government are never and will never be held accountable.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    The answer to your final question is, sadly, the FBI leadership, safely entrusted into the care of the fixers and sycophants such as Mueller and Comey, is assuring that the job that they want done is done; cover the tracks, obfuscate the truth, destroy the evidence so the perpetrators can walk away without their clothing mussed. If this is carried off with some degree of finesse, the FBI's institutional power and reputation will succeed in shielding the criminals. It's been working just great so far for the criminals. I hope the wheels come off of the scam. I guess we shall see how clever and authoritative Trump and Sessions really can be.

    Personally, I don't care much for Trump, but as he was legitimately elected as President of the Republic, this whole exercise amounts to a coup d'etat, and I care way, way less for that. Let slip the dogs of war.
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  • With Ex-FBI Chief Mueller was a fox set to keep the geese.

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  • “James Comey is a poisonous snake of the highest order… a deep-water Swamp Denizen who has been highly paid to deliberately provide cover for high-level corruption by the Clintons and Obama. He is has been central to trying to destroy the Trump campaign and then the Trump administration from the start. He is as dirty as they come in DC. He had highest-level cover (the FBI no less) and was deep into an effort to eliminate Trump. Trump had to move hard, fast, and at exactly the right time to cut the head off the snake without getting bitten by the snake or being finished by the other swamp denizens.”

    http://thejacksonpress.org/?p=66752

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  • @Mulegino1
    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

    Believers in the ridiculous official narrative of the 19 miracle working Jihadist amateur pilots and hydrocarbon based office fires.

    Those who maintain that the Bush Administration was "incompetent" and that it "ignored the warnings."

    The LIHOP crowd- Bush and Cheney deviously let it happen on purpose.

    Robert Muller's role has nothing to do with being an impartial prosecutor but about being a "fixer" in proper Washingtonian parlance. He was probably brought into the FBI to insure a foreordained "slam dunk" verdict that 19 Arab amateur pilots hijacked 4 airliners led by a deathly ill man living in a cave, performed miraculous feats of aviation which would have made Waldo Pepper envious and violated the laws of physics all in one day. Now he is serving another purpose for his string pullers in the deep state by torpedoing Trump.

    As Conan-Doyle wrote, "Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

    Office fires, nor jet fuel, nor building collapses or aircraft impacts will not cause hundreds of thousands of tons of structural steel and concrete to undergo molecular dissociation and turn into dust clouds. They generally do not cause the metal components of vehicles in the vicinity to be destroyed while their non-metallic components remain intact. Neither will conventional explosives or even nano-thermite. The destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and the core of WTC 6 was not caused by any of these things alone. WTC 7 may have been a case of conventional controlled demolition, but the idea that it experienced universal failure and collapsed into its footprint because of "raging fires" is too stupid for words.

    It is O'Brien holding up the three fingers and torturing Winston into seeing two - except that a good part of our public accepts their masters' voice willingly and enthusiastically, even today in 2017.

    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

    Not sure anyone would accuse Philip Giraldi (former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA) of someone who is “within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult”:

    If there had been such a gathering, I would imagine that the Washington Post would have found out about it on the next day as intelligence officers are gregarious and like to talk. This has been my principal problem with the debate in some quarters about the 9/11 Commission. Their report did indeed miss many important angles in order to protect certain governmental interests, but if there had been a genuine conspiracy involving what must have been hundreds of people to demolish the Twin Towers with explosives, it surely would have leaked long ago.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/

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    • Replies: @CK
    The secrets of Bletchley Park and the breaking of enigma were kept for over 30 years by thousands of people.
    , @Agent76
    You should read verify anything and everything as I have and also share this with others. Sources are in the link's at the bottom of the web page as well.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    The nicely-sectioned steel beams and girders were soon ordered by New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414
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  • The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

    Believers in the ridiculous official narrative of the 19 miracle working Jihadist amateur pilots and hydrocarbon based office fires.

    Those who maintain that the Bush Administration was “incompetent” and that it “ignored the warnings.”

    The LIHOP crowd- Bush and Cheney deviously let it happen on purpose.

    Robert Muller’s role has nothing to do with being an impartial prosecutor but about being a “fixer” in proper Washingtonian parlance. He was probably brought into the FBI to insure a foreordained “slam dunk” verdict that 19 Arab amateur pilots hijacked 4 airliners led by a deathly ill man living in a cave, performed miraculous feats of aviation which would have made Waldo Pepper envious and violated the laws of physics all in one day. Now he is serving another purpose for his string pullers in the deep state by torpedoing Trump.

    As Conan-Doyle wrote, “Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

    Office fires, nor jet fuel, nor building collapses or aircraft impacts will not cause hundreds of thousands of tons of structural steel and concrete to undergo molecular dissociation and turn into dust clouds. They generally do not cause the metal components of vehicles in the vicinity to be destroyed while their non-metallic components remain intact. Neither will conventional explosives or even nano-thermite. The destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and the core of WTC 6 was not caused by any of these things alone. WTC 7 may have been a case of conventional controlled demolition, but the idea that it experienced universal failure and collapsed into its footprint because of “raging fires” is too stupid for words.

    It is O’Brien holding up the three fingers and torturing Winston into seeing two – except that a good part of our public accepts their masters’ voice willingly and enthusiastically, even today in 2017.

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    • Replies: @geokat62

    The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:
     
    Not sure anyone would accuse Philip Giraldi (former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA) of someone who is "within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult":

    If there had been such a gathering, I would imagine that the Washington Post would have found out about it on the next day as intelligence officers are gregarious and like to talk. This has been my principal problem with the debate in some quarters about the 9/11 Commission. Their report did indeed miss many important angles in order to protect certain governmental interests, but if there had been a genuine conspiracy involving what must have been hundreds of people to demolish the Twin Towers with explosives, it surely would have leaked long ago.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/
     
    , @Anon

    Believers in the ridiculous official narrative of the 19 miracle working Jihadist amateur pilots and hydrocarbon based office fires.
     
    Perhaps you could explain what is so implausible about these details?
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76
    This is another good read Che Guava. November 07, 2016 FBI Director James Comey: Hillary Should Not Face Criminal Charges

    But Who Conducted the Investigation? FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Whose Wife Received $467,500. FBI Director James Comey (image left) decided to issue a report two days before the November election confirming that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Hillary in relation to the recent release of 650,000 Emails on October 28th.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-director-james-comey-no-evidence-of-hillary-wrong-doing-but-who-conducted-the-investigation-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-bribed-whose-wife-received-467000/5555398

    As a big factor in Comey’s thinking just before the election when new material possibly pertinent to Clinton’s irregullarities came to FBI attention would have been his own self interest it seems reasonable to suppose that both his embarrassment of Clinton by his communication to Congress and his exoneration of her were part of a process which began with “how bad could it be for me if Clinton wins [as I sulppose she will] and something really bad turns up from the investigation of the emails?”. Then, given it was true, the exonerating statement is a no brainer (he restores his position as well as he can with Clinton in case she wins and he inly diminishes his credit with Trump slightly if Trumo wins).

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    Anonymous allot folks just do not know the history of the FBI on purpose through government schooling and propaganda.

    Friday 30 March 2012 Enemies: A History of the FBI – review The ominous power and scandalous history of the FBI

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/30/enemies-fbi-history-weiner-review

    Jul 7, 2016 Justice Vs. "Just Us": Of Course the FBI Let Hillary off the Hook

    The only thing that surprises me is that anyone is surprised by this.

    https://youtu.be/tmcox43ErRA
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  • Deep State messes up and sheeple run wild.

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    Nice share and this is one my favorites.

    Sheep go "Baa!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Q-bDwbkPY
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA
    I need to leak a memo (actually my own interpretation of what happened after the fact) to counter any possible lies Trump might say just in case Trump produces a tape of the meeting.

    What is wrong with this sentence?

    Actually what is right about your post ia that it draws attention to the likelihood that the President would have recordings of all such conversations (not ones when he says “come for a walk with me while I stretch my legs in the garden”) and that, anyway, a canny fellow like Comey would assume so and, accordingly, make notes immediately afterwards to ensure that he was right on all the key points. Which all leads to the conclusion that recordings would bear out Comey.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    If there is a recording, then why do you need a memo? Why leak what you claim what was said? If you get anything wrong it will show you to be a liar.
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  • Get a life!

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  • @Carlton Meyer
    My old San Fran days memory recalls that "liberal" Democrat Diane Feinstein nominated neo-nazi Republican Mueller to US Attorney for N. California. I recall some thought because her husband was under investigation for a corrupt arms deal. That's just my memory

    There are now lots of current news stories of Feinstein and open coup plotter Schumer excited about Muller's appointment to convict Trump for something. This from her own website:

    https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=FEA7C76A-E029-49AF-98F2-5446AABFAD22

    May 17 2017

    Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today released the following statement on the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel: “The appointment of Bob Mueller as special counsel for the Russia investigation is a good first step to get to the bottom of the many questions we have about Russian interference in our election and possible ties to the president.

    “Bob was a fine U.S. attorney, a great FBI director and there’s no better person who could be asked to perform this function. He is respected, he is talented and he has the knowledge and ability to do the right thing.”

    I did find this from 1998:

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/U-S-Attorney-Yamaguchi-Announces-Resignation-3000301.php

    "In announcing his resignation, Yamaguchi said Attorney General Janet Reno will appoint Robert Mueller, a former federal prosecutor in San Francisco, as interim U.S. attorney. He is currently chief of the homicide division at the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, D.C. Mueller has spent almost his entire career as a federal prosecutor, doing both civil and criminal work in the San Francisco district and then moving to the U.S. attorney's office in Boston. He eventually joined the Justice Department, where he was an assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division."

    So Clinton's odd lesbian Attorney General helped boost a Republican to greater powers.

    Mueller went on to play key roles in the PanAm Lockerbie coverup and the 9-11 ruse, despite this:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/692291/posts

    "Mr. Mueller's credibility was harshly attacked in a letter made public last weekend in which a Minneapolis agent said the F.B.I. director was engaged in a public relations campaign "to protect the F.B.I. at all costs" after Sept. 11. But they said a review of his public remarks about the Sept. 11 investigation had raised uncomfortable questions about the F.B.I. director's credibility and about his ability to gather accurate information from his deputies."

    In a news conference on Wednesday that amounted to a painful mea culpa for the bureau and for his performance in the nine months since he took over the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Mr. Mueller said, "I have made mistakes occasionally in my public comments based on information or a lack of information that I subsequently got."

    He was referring specifically to a widely publicized Sept. 14 statement in which he offered assurances — later proved to be false — that the bureau had no warning that terrorists might be training in American flight schools. On Sept. 17, Mr. Mueller went further, saying he knew of "no warning signs" of any sort of attack.

    Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who is on the Judiciary Committee, said his staff investigators would explore the accusations made by the Minneapolis agent, Coleen Rowley, that Mr. Mueller and other senior F.B.I. officials had intentionally shaded the truth about the investigation last summer of Zacarias Moussaoui."

    To summarize, we have a "Republican" from Northern California nominated by a "liberal" Democrat to become part of the Clinton "Justice" department who played a key role as FBI Director to cover 9-11. He now reappears from the grave with great praise from Democrats openly plotting to overthrow President Trump to investigate absurdly silly things like speaking to Russian diplomats. Let us recall Trump openly expressed doubts about the 9-11 twin towers ruse on 9-11!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-ldMj9y9w

    Yes, all corruption in DC eventually becomes a 9-11 thread.

    This a very good read on the 9/11 event. September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

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  • @Che Guava
    This was an interesting article.

    Counterpunch does publish many iInteresting articles, once upon a time, I was to considering subscription to the print edition, but no credit card, and the 80 to 90% idiocy on the site,

    The article at the link below is not unrepresentative, though it is at the bottom end of the scale.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/09/lessons-from-portlands-clashes-with-fascists

    This is another good read Che Guava. November 07, 2016 FBI Director James Comey: Hillary Should Not Face Criminal Charges

    But Who Conducted the Investigation? FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Whose Wife Received $467,500. FBI Director James Comey (image left) decided to issue a report two days before the November election confirming that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Hillary in relation to the recent release of 650,000 Emails on October 28th.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-director-james-comey-no-evidence-of-hillary-wrong-doing-but-who-conducted-the-investigation-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-bribed-whose-wife-received-467000/5555398

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    As a big factor in Comey's thinking just before the election when new material possibly pertinent to Clinton's irregullarities came to FBI attention would have been his own self interest it seems reasonable to suppose that both his embarrassment of Clinton by his communication to Congress and his exoneration of her were part of a process which began with "how bad could it be for me if Clinton wins [as I sulppose she will] and something really bad turns up from the investigation of the emails?". Then, given it was true, the exonerating statement is a no brainer (he restores his position as well as he can with Clinton in case she wins and he inly diminishes his credit with Trump slightly if Trumo wins).
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  • March 31, 2017 The Surveillance State Behind Russia-Gate

    Although many details are still hazy because of secrecy – and further befogged by politics – it appears House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was informed last week about invasive electronic surveillance of senior U.S. government officials and, in turn, passed that information onto President Trump.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-surveillance-state-behind-russia-gate/5582211

    Jan 2, 2017 CNN Caught Using Video Game Image In Fake Russian Hacking Story

    It looks like CNN Has tried to pull the wool over our eyes once again. This time, they used a screenshot from the Fallout 4 Video game to paint the picture of Russian Hacking. To bad that’s not what a real hacking screen looks like. And an image you will only find in the video game! Nice Try Clinton News Network!

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  • This was an interesting article.

    Counterpunch does publish many iInteresting articles, once upon a time, I was to considering subscription to the print edition, but no credit card, and the 80 to 90% idiocy on the site,

    The article at the link below is not unrepresentative, though it is at the bottom end of the scale.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/09/lessons-from-portlands-clashes-with-fascists

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    This is another good read Che Guava. November 07, 2016 FBI Director James Comey: Hillary Should Not Face Criminal Charges

    But Who Conducted the Investigation? FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Whose Wife Received $467,500. FBI Director James Comey (image left) decided to issue a report two days before the November election confirming that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Hillary in relation to the recent release of 650,000 Emails on October 28th.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-director-james-comey-no-evidence-of-hillary-wrong-doing-but-who-conducted-the-investigation-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-bribed-whose-wife-received-467000/5555398

    , @Che Guava
    Reply, agree, disagree etc. should also include 'Thanks', but thanks for that.
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  • I need to leak a memo (actually my own interpretation of what happened after the fact) to counter any possible lies Trump might say just in case Trump produces a tape of the meeting.

    What is wrong with this sentence?

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    Actually what is right about your post ia that it draws attention to the likelihood that the President would have recordings of all such conversations (not ones when he says "come for a walk with me while I stretch my legs in the garden") and that, anyway, a canny fellow like Comey would assume so and, accordingly, make notes immediately afterwards to ensure that he was right on all the key points. Which all leads to the conclusion that recordings would bear out Comey.
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  • Aug 8, 2016 “I want to scare Assad” Mike Morell on Charlie Rose

    Mike Morell, former deputy director of the CIA, discusses the need to put pressure on Syria and Russia. The full conversation airs on PBS on August 8th, 2016.

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  • March 07, 2017 CIA Leak: “Russian Election Hackers” May Work In Langley

    Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked.

    http://www.4thmedia.org/2017/03/cia-leak-russian-election-hackers-may-work-in-langley/

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  • The 911 cover up team is now about to take President Trump down over yet another false flag, and this team would include the leadership of both parties. How convenient that the Democrats are doing the dirty work so that Fox News and the rest can now engage in covering up the Republicans’ behind-the-scenes role in all this.

    Also, Colleen Rowley mentions that Meuller ignored his FBI agents’ warnings about not going along with CIA torture overseas, yet there is reason to believe that FBI agents were in fact sent overseas to coordinate this activity with the CIA and Mossad.

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  • My old San Fran days memory recalls that “liberal” Democrat Diane Feinstein nominated neo-nazi Republican Mueller to US Attorney for N. California. I recall some thought because her husband was under investigation for a corrupt arms deal. That’s just my memory

    There are now lots of current news stories of Feinstein and open coup plotter Schumer excited about Muller’s appointment to convict Trump for something. This from her own website:

    https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=FEA7C76A-E029-49AF-98F2-5446AABFAD22

    May 17 2017

    Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today released the following statement on the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel: “The appointment of Bob Mueller as special counsel for the Russia investigation is a good first step to get to the bottom of the many questions we have about Russian interference in our election and possible ties to the president.

    “Bob was a fine U.S. attorney, a great FBI director and there’s no better person who could be asked to perform this function. He is respected, he is talented and he has the knowledge and ability to do the right thing.”

    I did find this from 1998:

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/U-S-Attorney-Yamaguchi-Announces-Resignation-3000301.php

    “In announcing his resignation, Yamaguchi said Attorney General Janet Reno will appoint Robert Mueller, a former federal prosecutor in San Francisco, as interim U.S. attorney. He is currently chief of the homicide division at the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, D.C. Mueller has spent almost his entire career as a federal prosecutor, doing both civil and criminal work in the San Francisco district and then moving to the U.S. attorney’s office in Boston. He eventually joined the Justice Department, where he was an assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division.”

    So Clinton’s odd lesbian Attorney General helped boost a Republican to greater powers.

    Mueller went on to play key roles in the PanAm Lockerbie coverup and the 9-11 ruse, despite this:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/692291/posts

    “Mr. Mueller’s credibility was harshly attacked in a letter made public last weekend in which a Minneapolis agent said the F.B.I. director was engaged in a public relations campaign “to protect the F.B.I. at all costs” after Sept. 11. But they said a review of his public remarks about the Sept. 11 investigation had raised uncomfortable questions about the F.B.I. director’s credibility and about his ability to gather accurate information from his deputies.”

    In a news conference on Wednesday that amounted to a painful mea culpa for the bureau and for his performance in the nine months since he took over the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Mr. Mueller said, “I have made mistakes occasionally in my public comments based on information or a lack of information that I subsequently got.”

    He was referring specifically to a widely publicized Sept. 14 statement in which he offered assurances — later proved to be false — that the bureau had no warning that terrorists might be training in American flight schools. On Sept. 17, Mr. Mueller went further, saying he knew of “no warning signs” of any sort of attack.

    Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who is on the Judiciary Committee, said his staff investigators would explore the accusations made by the Minneapolis agent, Coleen Rowley, that Mr. Mueller and other senior F.B.I. officials had intentionally shaded the truth about the investigation last summer of Zacarias Moussaoui.”

    To summarize, we have a “Republican” from Northern California nominated by a “liberal” Democrat to become part of the Clinton “Justice” department who played a key role as FBI Director to cover 9-11. He now reappears from the grave with great praise from Democrats openly plotting to overthrow President Trump to investigate absurdly silly things like speaking to Russian diplomats. Let us recall Trump openly expressed doubts about the 9-11 twin towers ruse on 9-11!

    Yes, all corruption in DC eventually becomes a 9-11 thread.

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    This a very good read on the 9/11 event. September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414
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  • Excellent piece. Not a dam word I can find fault with.

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  • According to Jonathan Turley, one of the best and most respected legal experts, Comey may have violated the law using his professor friend to leak what he thought was an incriminating memorandum documenting Trump’s “hope” that he would lay off Flynn because Flynn was a “good guy.” Even torture advocate Dershowitz, who, for his obvious faults, is a talented lawyer, indicates that it is preposterous to call this “obstruction of justice” when Trump had the power to pardon anybody. Meanwhile, the fact that Comey didn’t find it necessary to document his interrogation of the harpy on the “matter” of her email server reveals that he seemed totally willing for justice to be obstructed in a more obvious fashion if he was on board with those doing the obstructing. It also came out that some of his testimony today appears to contradict statements he made under oath to Senator Grassley in a hearing dated May 3. Since Mueller was apparently appointed at least in part as a result of Comey’s leak, and no evidence has been shown of the phony Russia charges despite months of possibly extra-legal digging, Mueller’s appointment should be cancelled and his office liquidated if that can be done in some fashion. If not, may be he should show more integrity than has heretofore been the case and liquidate the office himself.

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  • As Colleen Rowley has so thoroughly and unequivocally demonstrated here, both Comey and Mueller are living examples of the Peter Principle (that managers rise to the level of their incompetence).

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    Peter Principle - "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

    Particularly when the incompetence is profitable for the influential moneymakers and powerbrokers. A sample: "Terrorism: A Thriving Industry for US-NATO Coalition" http://www.globalresearch.ca/selected-articles-terrorism-a-thriving-industry-for-us-nato-coalition/5594198
    "For years, the UK has been pouring millions into the Syrian opposition. In 2012, the British Foreign Secretary at the time, William Hague, admitted that Britain had been helping the Syrian rebels in a “practical and non-lethal way,” and vowed to increase British assistance. As the Independent noted, this non-lethal aid consisted of Britain sending the Syrian opposition £8m-worth of body armour, vehicles with ballistic protection, trucks, forklift trucks, communications equipment, laptops, water purification kits and other equipment needed to fight a war. In 2013, a report claimed that Britain was involved in an operation with other European states and the US to send the Syrian rebels 3,000 tons of weapons, sent in 75 planeloads, from Zagreb to the rebels."

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  • All the hyped political angst regarding the possible resettling of a few thousand Syrian refugees stands in stark contrast to the relative lack of congressional concern about the equally, if not more inherently problematic Visa Waiver Program (VWP). This long-standing, historically-proven dangerous, but little understood Department of Homeland Security (DHS)-administered program, allowed 21,231,396 foreign visitors...
  • @Coleen Rowley
    You are probably not aware but you're speaking to the choir. I've been a staunch critic of the "Top Secret America" Total Information Awareness" plan from start, and long before Snowden's disclosures. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/how-top-secret-america-mi_b_811049.html I wrote this just a couple days after Snowden's disclosures: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/opinion/rowley-nsa-surveillance/index.html and most recently this in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/28/bigger-haystack-harder-terrorist-communication-future-attacks

    You are probably not aware but you’re speaking to the choir.

    Well, since writing my previous note, I investigated the question a bit more, googling your name for example, and realizing what your public stance on all of this. Of course, I agree with your stand against mass surveillance.

    However, your basic position seems to be something like: “There really is this big terrorist threat but the way we go about countering it is wrong…” I do not agree with that, because it is my considered belief that the terrorist threat is a manufactured hoax.

    To be brutally frank with you, Ms. Rowley, upon looking at your wikipedia page and your various publicly available writings, I see two possibilities. The first is that you are a well meaning but terribly naive individual and the second is that you know more than you let on about all of this but basically maintain a sort of “lies to children” approach, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie-to-children). I don’t honestly know which it is, though I tend toward the latter…

    Concretely, you alluded to the Christmas underwear bomber, Abdulmatulab. I pointed to a link that pointed out basically that there were witnesses — people who were there and have no discernible reason to lie — who claim that Abdulmatulab was basically escorted onto the plane at Schiphol airport in Amsterdam. As well as other very strange anomalies… And you declined to address any of this.

    Okay, fine, but if what Mr. Haskell says in his blog is correct, and this is a government staged operation, a psy-op, then surely the logical conclusion is that it does not matter at all whether this Abdulmatulab individual was on whatever no-fly or watch list because the inner network that stages these incidents made absolutely sure that their patsy got on the plane regardless! Quite possibly, he did not even possess a passport, yet still boarded the plane!

    In one of the articles you link, you mention the presumed twentieth hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui. You allude to a “failure to connect the dots” etcetera.

    Now, my understanding of the Moussaoui case is that Moussaoui was indeed one of a group of mentally deficient patsies who were being set up to be framed for the 9/11 attacks. Unfortunately, unlike the other 19 individuals he was taken into custody by State agents who were not part of the inner cabal that stages these things.

    I have no inside information. I am just somebody who follows events and draws conclusions and that is my understanding of this. (If I am wrong, you have a golden opportunity to present facts and logic that could convince me I am wrong.)

    But if my understanding of things is correct, then Moussaoui being taken into custody on 9/11 was something of a screw-up. The cabal behind these kinds of deep events needs their patsy or patsies NOT to be taken into custody — because, obviously, if they are in custody, they cannot be framed for the crime, right?

    So what it comes down to is that it doesn’t matter. Occasionally they mess up as in the Moussaoui case, but in general, the network behind such events is going to do their utmost to make sure that their patsies are not taken into custody, just as they will make absolutely sure that their underwear bomber gets on the plane, no matter how many watch lists he is on, even if the poor fool does not have his passport, he gets on the plane! So, to me, it seems like, propertly understood, this whole discussion, as you frame it, looks absurd! It doesn’t matter whether you put a million people on a list or ten million! If the narrative involves the given patsy being at the time and place to be framed, guess what, that’s where our patsy will be! (Modulo a few screw-ups now and then…)

    But getting back to Moussaoui, the whole narrative of him and the other hijackers is completely absurd anyway. Surely no real terrorist organization would send their operatives to the target country a year or more before the operation so as to draw all of your attention to them. They would learn the skills needed for the operation (in this case flying the plane) somewhere outside the U.S. and go to U.S. a day before, say, and carry it out. The presence of all these guys a year before the event, drawing attention to themselves, learning how to fly planes in a flight academy in Florida (which apparently has CIA connections) and all this…. the whole thing is ridiculous anyway.

    Anyway, I have since looked into who you are, and I read some of your writings, and, I guess you are a well meaning insider who finds all the mass surveillance appalling. However, your narrative about what is really going on here falls very short of full truthfulness. I guess that is inevitable. This whole story like: “we nearly caught this underwear bomber and these 9/11 hijackers but somehow we failed to connect the dots because of blah blah” — this, to me anyway, is something basically completely laughable.

    Again, if my understanding of this is incorrect, I am a fair-minded person and you have a golden opportunity now to set me straight.

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  • @Stephen R. Diamond

    Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill.
     
    We're never told - by debunkers like you - the ordinary frequency of drilling.

    Y'all disrespect coincidence. [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]

    Debunkers, funny word. Oh wait, you’re a coincidence theorist. Amazing, even with the wide availability of calculators and computers some people still can’t put two and two together.

    Maybe that’s because they don’t want to.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn’t (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab)
     
    The case of the underwear bomber looks to be quite dodgy. A couple from Michigan, both attorneys, the Haskells, who were on the plane, wrote extensively on a blog about the subject. Here is an example of one of the blog posts in question:

    haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/colossal-deceit-known-as-underwear.html

    Anybody can look at this and come to their own conclusions. I personally find the Haskells to be quite credible. Were you aware of this?


    The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it’s undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.
     
    Ms. Rowley, just to focus this question and make it a little more concrete... is there any estimate available as to:

    (a) the total cost of compiling this database of over a million names

    (b) the number of actual, bona fide terrorists that have been intercepted due to their being on this list

    Aside from the cost of the program, I would also wonder about the legal and moral implications of such a wholesale invasion of privacy which this surely entails -- for the organs of one nation State to be scooping up all kinds of private data on, well... everybody in the world!

    If it came to your attention that the Russian State or the Chinese State had a similar program to scoop up all of this data on everybody, including U.S. citizens, how would you react to that?

    You are probably not aware but you’re speaking to the choir. I’ve been a staunch critic of the “Top Secret America” Total Information Awareness” plan from start, and long before Snowden’s disclosures. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/how-top-secret-america-mi_b_811049.html I wrote this just a couple days after Snowden’s disclosures: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/opinion/rowley-nsa-surveillance/index.html and most recently this in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/28/bigger-haystack-harder-terrorist-communication-future-attacks

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    You are probably not aware but you’re speaking to the choir.
     
    Well, since writing my previous note, I investigated the question a bit more, googling your name for example, and realizing what your public stance on all of this. Of course, I agree with your stand against mass surveillance.

    However, your basic position seems to be something like: "There really is this big terrorist threat but the way we go about countering it is wrong..." I do not agree with that, because it is my considered belief that the terrorist threat is a manufactured hoax.

    To be brutally frank with you, Ms. Rowley, upon looking at your wikipedia page and your various publicly available writings, I see two possibilities. The first is that you are a well meaning but terribly naive individual and the second is that you know more than you let on about all of this but basically maintain a sort of "lies to children" approach, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie-to-children). I don't honestly know which it is, though I tend toward the latter...

    Concretely, you alluded to the Christmas underwear bomber, Abdulmatulab. I pointed to a link that pointed out basically that there were witnesses -- people who were there and have no discernible reason to lie -- who claim that Abdulmatulab was basically escorted onto the plane at Schiphol airport in Amsterdam. As well as other very strange anomalies... And you declined to address any of this.

    Okay, fine, but if what Mr. Haskell says in his blog is correct, and this is a government staged operation, a psy-op, then surely the logical conclusion is that it does not matter at all whether this Abdulmatulab individual was on whatever no-fly or watch list because the inner network that stages these incidents made absolutely sure that their patsy got on the plane regardless! Quite possibly, he did not even possess a passport, yet still boarded the plane!

    In one of the articles you link, you mention the presumed twentieth hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui. You allude to a "failure to connect the dots" etcetera.

    Now, my understanding of the Moussaoui case is that Moussaoui was indeed one of a group of mentally deficient patsies who were being set up to be framed for the 9/11 attacks. Unfortunately, unlike the other 19 individuals he was taken into custody by State agents who were not part of the inner cabal that stages these things.

    I have no inside information. I am just somebody who follows events and draws conclusions and that is my understanding of this. (If I am wrong, you have a golden opportunity to present facts and logic that could convince me I am wrong.)

    But if my understanding of things is correct, then Moussaoui being taken into custody on 9/11 was something of a screw-up. The cabal behind these kinds of deep events needs their patsy or patsies NOT to be taken into custody -- because, obviously, if they are in custody, they cannot be framed for the crime, right?

    So what it comes down to is that it doesn't matter. Occasionally they mess up as in the Moussaoui case, but in general, the network behind such events is going to do their utmost to make sure that their patsies are not taken into custody, just as they will make absolutely sure that their underwear bomber gets on the plane, no matter how many watch lists he is on, even if the poor fool does not have his passport, he gets on the plane! So, to me, it seems like, propertly understood, this whole discussion, as you frame it, looks absurd! It doesn't matter whether you put a million people on a list or ten million! If the narrative involves the given patsy being at the time and place to be framed, guess what, that's where our patsy will be! (Modulo a few screw-ups now and then...)

    But getting back to Moussaoui, the whole narrative of him and the other hijackers is completely absurd anyway. Surely no real terrorist organization would send their operatives to the target country a year or more before the operation so as to draw all of your attention to them. They would learn the skills needed for the operation (in this case flying the plane) somewhere outside the U.S. and go to U.S. a day before, say, and carry it out. The presence of all these guys a year before the event, drawing attention to themselves, learning how to fly planes in a flight academy in Florida (which apparently has CIA connections) and all this.... the whole thing is ridiculous anyway.

    Anyway, I have since looked into who you are, and I read some of your writings, and, I guess you are a well meaning insider who finds all the mass surveillance appalling. However, your narrative about what is really going on here falls very short of full truthfulness. I guess that is inevitable. This whole story like: "we nearly caught this underwear bomber and these 9/11 hijackers but somehow we failed to connect the dots because of blah blah" -- this, to me anyway, is something basically completely laughable.

    Again, if my understanding of this is incorrect, I am a fair-minded person and you have a golden opportunity now to set me straight.
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  • @Coleen Rowley
    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn't (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab) https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/sharing-and-analyzing-information-to-prevent-terrorism There are billions and now even trillions of pieces of data now vacuumed up on everyone inside giant databases in the U.S. and in foreign countries. The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it's undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.

    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn’t (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab)

    The case of the underwear bomber looks to be quite dodgy. A couple from Michigan, both attorneys, the Haskells, who were on the plane, wrote extensively on a blog about the subject. Here is an example of one of the blog posts in question:

    haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/colossal-deceit-known-as-underwear.html

    Anybody can look at this and come to their own conclusions. I personally find the Haskells to be quite credible. Were you aware of this?

    The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it’s undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.

    Ms. Rowley, just to focus this question and make it a little more concrete… is there any estimate available as to:

    (a) the total cost of compiling this database of over a million names

    (b) the number of actual, bona fide terrorists that have been intercepted due to their being on this list

    Aside from the cost of the program, I would also wonder about the legal and moral implications of such a wholesale invasion of privacy which this surely entails — for the organs of one nation State to be scooping up all kinds of private data on, well… everybody in the world!

    If it came to your attention that the Russian State or the Chinese State had a similar program to scoop up all of this data on everybody, including U.S. citizens, how would you react to that?

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    • Replies: @Coleen Rowley
    You are probably not aware but you're speaking to the choir. I've been a staunch critic of the "Top Secret America" Total Information Awareness" plan from start, and long before Snowden's disclosures. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/how-top-secret-america-mi_b_811049.html I wrote this just a couple days after Snowden's disclosures: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/opinion/rowley-nsa-surveillance/index.html and most recently this in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/28/bigger-haystack-harder-terrorist-communication-future-attacks
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  • @Max Payne
    The only astonishing fact in this article is that there is 1.1 million terrorists suspects. Considering the intelligence community is some 850,000 employees I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?

    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn’t (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab) https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/sharing-and-analyzing-information-to-prevent-terrorism There are billions and now even trillions of pieces of data now vacuumed up on everyone inside giant databases in the U.S. and in foreign countries. The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it’s undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.

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    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky

    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn’t (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab)
     
    The case of the underwear bomber looks to be quite dodgy. A couple from Michigan, both attorneys, the Haskells, who were on the plane, wrote extensively on a blog about the subject. Here is an example of one of the blog posts in question:

    haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/colossal-deceit-known-as-underwear.html

    Anybody can look at this and come to their own conclusions. I personally find the Haskells to be quite credible. Were you aware of this?


    The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it’s undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.
     
    Ms. Rowley, just to focus this question and make it a little more concrete... is there any estimate available as to:

    (a) the total cost of compiling this database of over a million names

    (b) the number of actual, bona fide terrorists that have been intercepted due to their being on this list

    Aside from the cost of the program, I would also wonder about the legal and moral implications of such a wholesale invasion of privacy which this surely entails -- for the organs of one nation State to be scooping up all kinds of private data on, well... everybody in the world!

    If it came to your attention that the Russian State or the Chinese State had a similar program to scoop up all of this data on everybody, including U.S. citizens, how would you react to that?
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  • @Wizard of Oz
    I doubt if I or many others will be bothering with your comments unless you appear in future to be calm and sane and temperate in language.

    It is not so much that the word "lie" and its cognates is offensive; the problem is that you sound quite deranged when there is nothing I asserted to which the word "lie" could be applied as a matter of logic and linguistic usage.

    Then there is the absurd pretence that you don't know that my use of "you are asserting" was a standard rhetorical device whereby I asked about what might be the logical implications of the position you appear to take on what are normally described as terrorist attacks.

    Now you appear to retreat to a minimalist position that there are such a lot of cases of unhappy coincidences that you infer a lot of cases where the US government has committed various homicides in conjunction with "drills" as cover.

    Such a serious allegation of crime needs to be spelled out much more to meet ordinary decent standards. What precisely did these drills consist of.

    I doubt if I or many others will be bothering with your comments unless you appear in future to be calm and sane and temperate in language.

    When I refer to you as a lying shill bastard and other such things, I am being quite calm and collected. That you find it unpleasant to be called (quite correctly) a lying shill scumbag is, for me, the purpose of it. There is no reason for me to make what you do here pleasant for you.

    Then there is the absurd pretence that you don’t know that my use of “you are asserting” was a standard rhetorical device whereby I asked about what might be the logical implications of the position you appear to take on what are normally described as terrorist attacks.

    Oh, yeah, I remember this, you have this way of trying to bog people down with these tortuous, borderline meaningless sentences.

    Look, it’s completely demonstrable that these “terrorist attacks” occurring in conjunction with drills is not by random coincidence. You can demonstrate this at pretty much an arbitrary level of statistical significance.

    The onus is obviously on you, a defender of the MSM version of reality, to explain why these “terrorist attacks” pretty much always coincide with drills.

    Do you have an explanation for this?

    Such a serious allegation of crime needs to be spelled out much more to meet ordinary decent standards. What precisely did these drills consist of.

    Okay, here you go, back to your one basic trick. People, the basic trick of this kind of disinfo agent scumbag is that this kind of asshole is always trying to turn things around such that you have to demonstrate something to him. He never has to explain or demonstrate anything himself. So he just always asks these stupid questions, like, in this case: “what did the drills consist of?” Like this asshole can’t just get on the internet and research the question himself if he wants to know. So, like, if you want to know what drills were going on on the day of 9/11 you can quickly come to this page:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001

    It would be one of the first things you would hit. If you wanted to know… But this asswipe will always ask you for things that he could find out in 10 seconds himself using google, right? But it’s part of his basic schtick. The basic idea is that you always have to demonstrate something to him. He never has to answer a question, like, say…. what is the strongest available evidence that Osama Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 attacks? A very basic key question and he won’t answer. Not just this bastard. This Geokat scum, all of them… You ask them a totally pertinent question like that and they just won’t answer.

    So that’s the basic game. Anyway, there is no need for me, at this point, to demonstrate that all of these “terrorist attacks” occur in conjunction with these drills. It’s easily verifiable. The onus is on HIM to tell me WHY this is so.

    And look at this. He (she…it…) starts off with this “Such a serious allegation of crime” blah blah. All I said was that all these dodgy incidents seem to occur in conjunction with a drill. This obviously implies that they are not what they are presented as by the MSM. Why, for example, would some “lone wolf shooter” who is not right in his head show up to a school or wherever and shoot people and there is always a “live shooter drill” going on at the time and place he shows up to. It makes no sense! Any defender of this narrative has a serious problem trying to explain this away.

    But, you see, he starts with this “Such a serious allegation of crime” and now, there’s no onus this asswipe to explain anything. The onus is always on you somehow. Like, I asked this shit-eating scum bastard some while ago what specifically was the proof that Osama Bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks. And he just refused to answer. Par for the course. “Serious allegation of crime”but since it’s the government’s official bullshit story there’s no need for him to tell me what the evidence for it is or anything.

    So, this kind of scumbag is basically a one-trick pony, it’s always trying to turn the tables on you and demand proof. And there’s never any onus on him to provide any evidence of anything. Admittedly that’s the way a lot of people operate who are not actually professional disinfo agents. If they read it in the newspaper or see it on the TV, it’s just true by default…

    Anyway, aside from their basic one trick, they have a backup “trick” (if you can call it that) which is to just revert to accusing you of being crazy and so on.

    But anyway, watch, like keep your eyes on the ball. I ask this troll bastard to explain why the drills are always happening in conjunction with the “terrorist attacks”. You think we’ll ever get an answer from him? No, he’ll just walk away from the question and then somehow try again to turn the tables, like you have to demonstrate something to him. And if he can’t find some weird rhetorical device to try to turn the tables like that, he’ll just revert to calling me crazy.

    No dice.

    The ball’s in your court, shill. Explain why these alleged terrorist incidents always happen when they’re running a drill.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Let’s be clear.
     
    Yes, let's be clear, you lying shill bastard. If you want to say something to me, address what I actually said. Don't start with this crap of "Are you saying X? Right?" and then arguing as if I actually said X. Now, okay, I shouldn't bother to complain that it's dishonest, since... look, who I'm talking to... but look, I think it's ineffective. People see through this. Though I guess you're kind of a one-trick pony though...


    You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right?
     
    No, wrong. I never made any such assertion. There is a complete electronic record of everything I have ever said here. You can look through it and see that I never said that.

    I specifically do say that in all these events, when you have a drill taking place at the same time as the actual event, this basically tells you it is something staged. The way these events continually happen when drills are taking place at the same time goes way beyond anything that can be attributed to coincidence.

    But no, I do not know who did this. The only thing I know for absolutely certain is that whatever the mainstream media narrative is -- that is most certainly NOT what happened. That much is clear...


    Don’t bother with the links or supposed evidence.
     
    I don't know why you say that. Okay, obviously any real facts are wasted on you, but there are plenty of other people who could make use of it. So, here are a couple of links:

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-swat-team-drill-turns-real-mass-shooting-scenario-san-bernadino-ca/
    http://www.naturalnews.com/052196_active_shooter_drills_San_Bernardino_shooting_Inland_Regional_Center.html

    I'm sorry that none of the material I linked is available in comic book format for you, Wizard.

    That they were running a drill at the time seems uncontestable. It's in the LA Times as well:

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-cellphones-20151202-story.html

    If somebody is willing to believe that all these events just happen when they're running drills by pure coincidence, well, what can one say finally? The pathetic need of certain people to delude themselves about what is going on here, it seems rather like the desperate compulsion of the passive homosexual to be roughly sodomized. This kind of thing, unfortunately, just seems to be incurable.

    I doubt if I or many others will be bothering with your comments unless you appear in future to be calm and sane and temperate in language.

    It is not so much that the word “lie” and its cognates is offensive; the problem is that you sound quite deranged when there is nothing I asserted to which the word “lie” could be applied as a matter of logic and linguistic usage.

    Then there is the absurd pretence that you don’t know that my use of “you are asserting” was a standard rhetorical device whereby I asked about what might be the logical implications of the position you appear to take on what are normally described as terrorist attacks.

    Now you appear to retreat to a minimalist position that there are such a lot of cases of unhappy coincidences that you infer a lot of cases where the US government has committed various homicides in conjunction with “drills” as cover.

    Such a serious allegation of crime needs to be spelled out much more to meet ordinary decent standards. What precisely did these drills consist of.

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    I doubt if I or many others will be bothering with your comments unless you appear in future to be calm and sane and temperate in language.
     
    When I refer to you as a lying shill bastard and other such things, I am being quite calm and collected. That you find it unpleasant to be called (quite correctly) a lying shill scumbag is, for me, the purpose of it. There is no reason for me to make what you do here pleasant for you.

    Then there is the absurd pretence that you don’t know that my use of “you are asserting” was a standard rhetorical device whereby I asked about what might be the logical implications of the position you appear to take on what are normally described as terrorist attacks.

     

    Oh, yeah, I remember this, you have this way of trying to bog people down with these tortuous, borderline meaningless sentences.

    Look, it's completely demonstrable that these "terrorist attacks" occurring in conjunction with drills is not by random coincidence. You can demonstrate this at pretty much an arbitrary level of statistical significance.

    The onus is obviously on you, a defender of the MSM version of reality, to explain why these "terrorist attacks" pretty much always coincide with drills.

    Do you have an explanation for this?

    Such a serious allegation of crime needs to be spelled out much more to meet ordinary decent standards. What precisely did these drills consist of.

     

    Okay, here you go, back to your one basic trick. People, the basic trick of this kind of disinfo agent scumbag is that this kind of asshole is always trying to turn things around such that you have to demonstrate something to him. He never has to explain or demonstrate anything himself. So he just always asks these stupid questions, like, in this case: "what did the drills consist of?" Like this asshole can't just get on the internet and research the question himself if he wants to know. So, like, if you want to know what drills were going on on the day of 9/11 you can quickly come to this page:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001

    It would be one of the first things you would hit. If you wanted to know... But this asswipe will always ask you for things that he could find out in 10 seconds himself using google, right? But it's part of his basic schtick. The basic idea is that you always have to demonstrate something to him. He never has to answer a question, like, say.... what is the strongest available evidence that Osama Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 attacks? A very basic key question and he won't answer. Not just this bastard. This Geokat scum, all of them... You ask them a totally pertinent question like that and they just won't answer.

    So that's the basic game. Anyway, there is no need for me, at this point, to demonstrate that all of these "terrorist attacks" occur in conjunction with these drills. It's easily verifiable. The onus is on HIM to tell me WHY this is so.

    And look at this. He (she...it...) starts off with this "Such a serious allegation of crime" blah blah. All I said was that all these dodgy incidents seem to occur in conjunction with a drill. This obviously implies that they are not what they are presented as by the MSM. Why, for example, would some "lone wolf shooter" who is not right in his head show up to a school or wherever and shoot people and there is always a "live shooter drill" going on at the time and place he shows up to. It makes no sense! Any defender of this narrative has a serious problem trying to explain this away.

    But, you see, he starts with this "Such a serious allegation of crime" and now, there's no onus this asswipe to explain anything. The onus is always on you somehow. Like, I asked this shit-eating scum bastard some while ago what specifically was the proof that Osama Bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks. And he just refused to answer. Par for the course. "Serious allegation of crime"but since it's the government's official bullshit story there's no need for him to tell me what the evidence for it is or anything.

    So, this kind of scumbag is basically a one-trick pony, it's always trying to turn the tables on you and demand proof. And there's never any onus on him to provide any evidence of anything. Admittedly that's the way a lot of people operate who are not actually professional disinfo agents. If they read it in the newspaper or see it on the TV, it's just true by default...

    Anyway, aside from their basic one trick, they have a backup "trick" (if you can call it that) which is to just revert to accusing you of being crazy and so on.

    But anyway, watch, like keep your eyes on the ball. I ask this troll bastard to explain why the drills are always happening in conjunction with the "terrorist attacks". You think we'll ever get an answer from him? No, he'll just walk away from the question and then somehow try again to turn the tables, like you have to demonstrate something to him. And if he can't find some weird rhetorical device to try to turn the tables like that, he'll just revert to calling me crazy.

    No dice.

    The ball's in your court, shill. Explain why these alleged terrorist incidents always happen when they're running a drill.
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  • @Wizard of Oz
    Let's be clear. You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right? And that the kiliing of about 130 people in Paris a couple of weeks ago was likewise staged by America, Israel or maybe France?

    Same for the Charlie Hebdo murders? The killings in the kosher supermarket about the same time?

    Don't bother with the links or supposed evidence. It will be enough to know that your answer to these questions is Yes!

    Let’s be clear.

    Yes, let’s be clear, you lying shill bastard. If you want to say something to me, address what I actually said. Don’t start with this crap of “Are you saying X? Right?” and then arguing as if I actually said X. Now, okay, I shouldn’t bother to complain that it’s dishonest, since… look, who I’m talking to… but look, I think it’s ineffective. People see through this. Though I guess you’re kind of a one-trick pony though…

    You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right?

    No, wrong. I never made any such assertion. There is a complete electronic record of everything I have ever said here. You can look through it and see that I never said that.

    I specifically do say that in all these events, when you have a drill taking place at the same time as the actual event, this basically tells you it is something staged. The way these events continually happen when drills are taking place at the same time goes way beyond anything that can be attributed to coincidence.

    But no, I do not know who did this. The only thing I know for absolutely certain is that whatever the mainstream media narrative is — that is most certainly NOT what happened. That much is clear…

    Don’t bother with the links or supposed evidence.

    I don’t know why you say that. Okay, obviously any real facts are wasted on you, but there are plenty of other people who could make use of it. So, here are a couple of links:

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-swat-team-drill-turns-real-mass-shooting-scenario-san-bernadino-ca/

    http://www.naturalnews.com/052196_active_shooter_drills_San_Bernardino_shooting_Inland_Regional_Center.html

    I’m sorry that none of the material I linked is available in comic book format for you, Wizard.

    That they were running a drill at the time seems uncontestable. It’s in the LA Times as well:

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-cellphones-20151202-story.html

    If somebody is willing to believe that all these events just happen when they’re running drills by pure coincidence, well, what can one say finally? The pathetic need of certain people to delude themselves about what is going on here, it seems rather like the desperate compulsion of the passive homosexual to be roughly sodomized. This kind of thing, unfortunately, just seems to be incurable.

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    I doubt if I or many others will be bothering with your comments unless you appear in future to be calm and sane and temperate in language.

    It is not so much that the word "lie" and its cognates is offensive; the problem is that you sound quite deranged when there is nothing I asserted to which the word "lie" could be applied as a matter of logic and linguistic usage.

    Then there is the absurd pretence that you don't know that my use of "you are asserting" was a standard rhetorical device whereby I asked about what might be the logical implications of the position you appear to take on what are normally described as terrorist attacks.

    Now you appear to retreat to a minimalist position that there are such a lot of cases of unhappy coincidences that you infer a lot of cases where the US government has committed various homicides in conjunction with "drills" as cover.

    Such a serious allegation of crime needs to be spelled out much more to meet ordinary decent standards. What precisely did these drills consist of.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?
     
    Bah, it's all bullshit. All these terrorist incidents are either false flags or staged hoaxes. The patsies are dim-witted people who get manipulated and entrapped.

    And, in any case, the article doesn't make any sense. If they let in all these millions of people with basically no scrutiny and there are no terrorists, so they need to mount these sting operations -- this basically tells you that the whole thing is a manufactured, bogus issue.

    Let’s be clear. You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right? And that the kiliing of about 130 people in Paris a couple of weeks ago was likewise staged by America, Israel or maybe France?

    Same for the Charlie Hebdo murders? The killings in the kosher supermarket about the same time?

    Don’t bother with the links or supposed evidence. It will be enough to know that your answer to these questions is Yes!

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    Let’s be clear.
     
    Yes, let's be clear, you lying shill bastard. If you want to say something to me, address what I actually said. Don't start with this crap of "Are you saying X? Right?" and then arguing as if I actually said X. Now, okay, I shouldn't bother to complain that it's dishonest, since... look, who I'm talking to... but look, I think it's ineffective. People see through this. Though I guess you're kind of a one-trick pony though...


    You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right?
     
    No, wrong. I never made any such assertion. There is a complete electronic record of everything I have ever said here. You can look through it and see that I never said that.

    I specifically do say that in all these events, when you have a drill taking place at the same time as the actual event, this basically tells you it is something staged. The way these events continually happen when drills are taking place at the same time goes way beyond anything that can be attributed to coincidence.

    But no, I do not know who did this. The only thing I know for absolutely certain is that whatever the mainstream media narrative is -- that is most certainly NOT what happened. That much is clear...


    Don’t bother with the links or supposed evidence.
     
    I don't know why you say that. Okay, obviously any real facts are wasted on you, but there are plenty of other people who could make use of it. So, here are a couple of links:

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-swat-team-drill-turns-real-mass-shooting-scenario-san-bernadino-ca/
    http://www.naturalnews.com/052196_active_shooter_drills_San_Bernardino_shooting_Inland_Regional_Center.html

    I'm sorry that none of the material I linked is available in comic book format for you, Wizard.

    That they were running a drill at the time seems uncontestable. It's in the LA Times as well:

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-cellphones-20151202-story.html

    If somebody is willing to believe that all these events just happen when they're running drills by pure coincidence, well, what can one say finally? The pathetic need of certain people to delude themselves about what is going on here, it seems rather like the desperate compulsion of the passive homosexual to be roughly sodomized. This kind of thing, unfortunately, just seems to be incurable.
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  • @Stephen R. Diamond

    Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill.
     
    We're never told - by debunkers like you - the ordinary frequency of drilling.

    Y'all disrespect coincidence. [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]

    We’re never told – by debunkers like you – the ordinary frequency of drilling.

    Well, I suppose it depends on the institution in question. Some are running drills more frequently than others, I guess. So the question you’re posing is rather vague and open-ended and cannot be easily answered. What I would ask you is this: if you were playing a high stakes backgammon game and the only way your opponent could win is by throwing three double-sixes in a row, and he proceeded to throw three double-sixes in a row, would you easily accept this as a coincidence? (Moreover, if you end up accepting this as a coincidence, do you think somebody who concludes otherwise must be crazy?)

    The above question focuses the issue more concretely, because we get a sense of your threshold for finally figuring out that something is not a coincidence! What if the person rolled four double-sixes in a row? Five? Suppose you were playing poker and somebody drew at an inside straight and completed the straight in that spot five, six, seven times in a row… At what point would you conclude that you were being cheated?

    Anyway, getting back to the false flag terrorism issue, you see, it is not solely that the real event happens when they are running drills, it’s that the drills tend to have an uncanny resemblance to the event that allegedly happened. For example, a scenario being drilled on the day of 9/11 was multiple plane hijackings. At that point in time, this was a scenario that had never occurred before. In fact, I believe nobody had hijacked even a single airliner in the preceding 20 years in the U.S,, so the scenario of multiple hijackings on the same day would have seemed rather far-fetched, yet it was being drilled on 9/11/2001. And, if the official version of events is to be believed, the terrorists decided, completely independently, to implement this exact scenario for the first time in history on the very day that it was being drilled. It is hard to quantify the likelihood of this like you can with the three double-sixes in a row, but it is surely infinitesimal — in fact, I would say, far lower than the three double-sixes in a row in the backgammon game.

    On the day of the 7/7 attacks in London in 2005, they were running drills of bombings in multiple subway stations. These were the same subway stations that were actually bombed. Now, do yo have an idea how big the London subway system is? What is the likelihood that they would be drilling explosions in the exact subway stations in which the attacks occur. On the very same day! Again, extremely improbable.

    Now, look, of course, they’re not coincidences! In these false flags, the drills coincide with the actual event for a variety of logistical reasons. The preparations for the drill act as a cover for the preparations of the actual event. Usually, I suppose that some of the footage staged and filmed for the drill is then used as footage for the actual event. If something goes wrong and you have to cancel the event with a lot of the preparations in plain sight, the drills provide a convenient explanation.

    Y’all disrespect coincidence

    Fascinating choice of words. “Disrespect….” Somebody who “disrespects” something or somebody he is supposed to respect is, in principle, a bad or unworthy person… I’m trying to parse this…. let’s see…. we owe “respect” to somebody or something and are not providing said “respect”… what we are “disrespecting” is something called “coincidence”…

    [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]

    Now, here, you just throw out a blatant straw man. As far as I can tell, nobody ever suggested that your being from the same town as the rock band — assuming this is true — is anything other than a coincidence.

    Why are you engaging in such an evident straw man? It’s terribly dishonest. Well, obviously, if you continue to engage in such dishonesty, I will of course just conclude that talking to you is a complete waste of time. And I really ought to warn people that you’re dishonest so that they don’t waste too much energy talking to you.

    Actually, I don’t think it’s pure dishonesty. I guess you’re engaging in all this weird discourse (like “disrespecting” coincidence.. WTF… ) because you have this desperate need to delude yourself about what is going on. It’s really quite self-evident that these things aren’t coincidences.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

     

    They don't? Of course they do. C'mon...

    In any case, the whole issue is bullshit. If they let in jihadists who are then alleged to have carried out whatever terrorist act, it's because they deliberately let them in so that they could be framed for the crime. These are all staged events and false flags. All of it. Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill. It's ridiculous.

    Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill.

    We’re never told – by debunkers like you – the ordinary frequency of drilling.

    Y’all disrespect coincidence. [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]

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    We’re never told – by debunkers like you – the ordinary frequency of drilling.
     
    Well, I suppose it depends on the institution in question. Some are running drills more frequently than others, I guess. So the question you're posing is rather vague and open-ended and cannot be easily answered. What I would ask you is this: if you were playing a high stakes backgammon game and the only way your opponent could win is by throwing three double-sixes in a row, and he proceeded to throw three double-sixes in a row, would you easily accept this as a coincidence? (Moreover, if you end up accepting this as a coincidence, do you think somebody who concludes otherwise must be crazy?)

    The above question focuses the issue more concretely, because we get a sense of your threshold for finally figuring out that something is not a coincidence! What if the person rolled four double-sixes in a row? Five? Suppose you were playing poker and somebody drew at an inside straight and completed the straight in that spot five, six, seven times in a row... At what point would you conclude that you were being cheated?

    Anyway, getting back to the false flag terrorism issue, you see, it is not solely that the real event happens when they are running drills, it's that the drills tend to have an uncanny resemblance to the event that allegedly happened. For example, a scenario being drilled on the day of 9/11 was multiple plane hijackings. At that point in time, this was a scenario that had never occurred before. In fact, I believe nobody had hijacked even a single airliner in the preceding 20 years in the U.S,, so the scenario of multiple hijackings on the same day would have seemed rather far-fetched, yet it was being drilled on 9/11/2001. And, if the official version of events is to be believed, the terrorists decided, completely independently, to implement this exact scenario for the first time in history on the very day that it was being drilled. It is hard to quantify the likelihood of this like you can with the three double-sixes in a row, but it is surely infinitesimal -- in fact, I would say, far lower than the three double-sixes in a row in the backgammon game.

    On the day of the 7/7 attacks in London in 2005, they were running drills of bombings in multiple subway stations. These were the same subway stations that were actually bombed. Now, do yo have an idea how big the London subway system is? What is the likelihood that they would be drilling explosions in the exact subway stations in which the attacks occur. On the very same day! Again, extremely improbable.

    Now, look, of course, they're not coincidences! In these false flags, the drills coincide with the actual event for a variety of logistical reasons. The preparations for the drill act as a cover for the preparations of the actual event. Usually, I suppose that some of the footage staged and filmed for the drill is then used as footage for the actual event. If something goes wrong and you have to cancel the event with a lot of the preparations in plain sight, the drills provide a convenient explanation.

    Y’all disrespect coincidence
     
    Fascinating choice of words. "Disrespect...." Somebody who "disrespects" something or somebody he is supposed to respect is, in principle, a bad or unworthy person... I'm trying to parse this.... let's see.... we owe "respect" to somebody or something and are not providing said "respect"... what we are "disrespecting" is something called "coincidence"...

    [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]

     

    Now, here, you just throw out a blatant straw man. As far as I can tell, nobody ever suggested that your being from the same town as the rock band -- assuming this is true -- is anything other than a coincidence.

    Why are you engaging in such an evident straw man? It's terribly dishonest. Well, obviously, if you continue to engage in such dishonesty, I will of course just conclude that talking to you is a complete waste of time. And I really ought to warn people that you're dishonest so that they don't waste too much energy talking to you.

    Actually, I don't think it's pure dishonesty. I guess you're engaging in all this weird discourse (like "disrespecting" coincidence.. WTF... ) because you have this desperate need to delude yourself about what is going on. It's really quite self-evident that these things aren't coincidences.
    , @FlopSweatGagster
    Debunkers, funny word. Oh wait, you're a coincidence theorist. Amazing, even with the wide availability of calculators and computers some people still can't put two and two together.

    Maybe that's because they don't want to.
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  • @Avi Marranazo
    A huge concern is the fact that many non-Europeans, read non-White, now hold European passports and the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

    Real Europeans entering without a visa was not a problem. We should learn from Israel and the way they deal with entry into their country.

    the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

    They don’t? Of course they do. C’mon…

    In any case, the whole issue is bullshit. If they let in jihadists who are then alleged to have carried out whatever terrorist act, it’s because they deliberately let them in so that they could be framed for the crime. These are all staged events and false flags. All of it. Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill. It’s ridiculous.

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    Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill.
     
    We're never told - by debunkers like you - the ordinary frequency of drilling.

    Y'all disrespect coincidence. [For example, the rock band that was playing before the Paris massacre resides in my small town. I've wanted to ask my conspirativist friends whether this proves I'm part of it.]
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  • @Max Payne
    The only astonishing fact in this article is that there is 1.1 million terrorists suspects. Considering the intelligence community is some 850,000 employees I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?

    I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?

    Bah, it’s all bullshit. All these terrorist incidents are either false flags or staged hoaxes. The patsies are dim-witted people who get manipulated and entrapped.

    And, in any case, the article doesn’t make any sense. If they let in all these millions of people with basically no scrutiny and there are no terrorists, so they need to mount these sting operations — this basically tells you that the whole thing is a manufactured, bogus issue.

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    Let's be clear. You are asserting that the shooting of people in San Bernardino a few hours ago was the work of the CIA or FBI or Mossad? Right? And that the kiliing of about 130 people in Paris a couple of weeks ago was likewise staged by America, Israel or maybe France?

    Same for the Charlie Hebdo murders? The killings in the kosher supermarket about the same time?

    Don't bother with the links or supposed evidence. It will be enough to know that your answer to these questions is Yes!
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  • The only astonishing fact in this article is that there is 1.1 million terrorists suspects. Considering the intelligence community is some 850,000 employees I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?

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    I have to ask myself where did they get these 1.1 million suspects from exactly?
     
    Bah, it's all bullshit. All these terrorist incidents are either false flags or staged hoaxes. The patsies are dim-witted people who get manipulated and entrapped.

    And, in any case, the article doesn't make any sense. If they let in all these millions of people with basically no scrutiny and there are no terrorists, so they need to mount these sting operations -- this basically tells you that the whole thing is a manufactured, bogus issue.
    , @Coleen Rowley
    Footnote 16 features and FBI official trying to explain how somebody gets put on the list of 1.1 million, or doesn't (as in the case of the Underwear Bomber Abdulmatulab) https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/sharing-and-analyzing-information-to-prevent-terrorism There are billions and now even trillions of pieces of data now vacuumed up on everyone inside giant databases in the U.S. and in foreign countries. The TIDE list of 1.1 million persons is an effort to hone down the list to make it more accurate and relevant but it's undoubtedly over-inclusive and also under-inclusive.
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  • @Avi Marranazo
    A huge concern is the fact that many non-Europeans, read non-White, now hold European passports and the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

    Real Europeans entering without a visa was not a problem. We should learn from Israel and the way they deal with entry into their country.

    Learn from Israel – What?

    That every criminal, as long as he is Jewish, get free pass to occupy a piece of land stolen from Native Muslim and Christian Palestinians. Or that even you’re allowed to enter Israel legally, but you’re Jewish, but African – you’re forced to live the life of an “untouchable Hindu” in Israel???

    http://rehmat1.com/2013/02/09/israeli-jews-hate-black-people/

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  • A huge concern is the fact that many non-Europeans, read non-White, now hold European passports and the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

    Real Europeans entering without a visa was not a problem. We should learn from Israel and the way they deal with entry into their country.

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    Learn from Israel - What?

    That every criminal, as long as he is Jewish, get free pass to occupy a piece of land stolen from Native Muslim and Christian Palestinians. Or that even you're allowed to enter Israel legally, but you're Jewish, but African - you're forced to live the life of an "untouchable Hindu" in Israel???

    http://rehmat1.com/2013/02/09/israeli-jews-hate-black-people/
    , @Jonathan Revusky

    the US government foolishly does not racially profile.

     

    They don't? Of course they do. C'mon...

    In any case, the whole issue is bullshit. If they let in jihadists who are then alleged to have carried out whatever terrorist act, it's because they deliberately let them in so that they could be framed for the crime. These are all staged events and false flags. All of it. Look how any of these events always coincide with some sort of drill. It's ridiculous.
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  • Since the arrest and conviction of America’s mass-spy, Jonathan Pollard, the 52 pro-Israel Jewish organizations led by AIPAC has been campaigning for allowing Israelis to enter the United States without a visa under the ‘Visa Waiver Program’ is being resisted by American intelligence agencies for the same reason. Why?

    On May 6, 2014, ‘Newsweek’ published an article in which its investigative reporter Jeff Stein claimed that Israel spies on the United States more than any US ally does and these activities have reached a ‘terrifying”\’ level.

    Israel’s espionage activities in America are unrivaled and unseemly; counterspies have told members of the House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees, going far beyond activities by other close allies, such as Germany, France, the UK and Japan. A congressional staffer familiar with a briefing last January called the testimony “very sobering…alarming…even terrifying.” Another staffer called it “damaging.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/05/08/newsweek-israeli-spying-on-us-terrifying/

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  • The solution to “total security” is a worldwide police state system of real time surveillance of every human being, via implanted compulsory tracking chips, run outside any public scrutiny, by the United States government.

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