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    Jean Raspail, Camp of the Saints, Social Contract Press, 1973, 306pp., $17.95 (softcover). “In this curious war taking shape, those who loved themselves best were the ones who would triumph.” – Jean Raspail The Camp of the Saints, written by Jean Raspail in 1973, is a novel about the end of the white race. Its...
  • @Art

    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?
     
    The Jews have a plan - they us our human nature against us.

    The pattern of human nature that they use is called the Stockholm syndrome.

    It has been documented that a group of people can be turned against themselves when they are captured and terrorized, and in the process, they are propagandized to believe that the terrorizers themselves are the true victims. The terrorists tell the those they captured, that they are doing this because they themselves are the real victims.

    The syndrome is that the captured group begin to sympathize with their terrorists. They take to heart that the terrorists are indeed victims, and that they should be supported.

     

    The facts of the situation are that people of consequence in America fear the Jews. They are terrorized by the Jews. Jews have a cultural hammer over them. They fear saying anything against the Jews. They fear for their livelihood. And they have been propagandized to believe in the six million lie of the holocaust. In effect they have been captured by the Jews – indeed the Jews control their culture. And they accept that the Jews are the great victims of our time.

    You’re exactly right. The tribe has already created a caliphate right here. The United States exists as a satellite of Israel.

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  • The Eastern Europeans have been on to the Jews for centuries . Especially after having suffered tremendously under Jewish Marxists. That’s why they don’t let the Jews run the show in their countries and flood them with mohammedans.

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  • Yeah, he avoids naming those who are pushing for the destruction of once Catholic Europe. Let’s spell it out T-H-E J-E-W-S. Did that clarify things?

    Maurice Samuel :”We are the destroyers.” “We want our own world.”

    That is what these people think of us. Their insane belief in their own messiahhood knows no bounds. They tried to take on the Roman legions, for crying out loud! They will burn it down and not bat an eye. They rejected the Second Person of the Trinity and it has driven them mad.

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  • @Malla
    This is all because of the invade the world, invite the world policy of the elites. It is very important to read this book about Semitic treachery
    Without inside Semetic help, 12,000 Moors could not have defeated 100000 Spanish Visigoths Warriors on European soil. No way, not possible.

    https://ia802702.us.archive.org/17/items/ThePlotAgainstTheChurch_192/PlotAgainstTheCurchComplete.pdf

    In Page 315, we read “Marcelino Menendez Pelayo, the renowned Spanish historian of the previous century, writes concerning the treachery of the Jews: “The indigenous population would have been able to show resistance to the handful of Arabs who crossed the Straits, but Witiza had disarmed them, levelled the towers to the ground and had the lances turned into harrows.”125 While the Visigoth kingdom disarmed under the influence of the Jewish advisors and friends of Witiza, dismantled its defence and destroyed its war power, the Jews encouraged the Musulmans to fall upon the Christian kingdom and to destroy it. Great preparations were made in North Africa for this. Into the land which the Jews wished to destroy they introduced pacifism, and into the land which should serve them as a tool to destroy the other, a warlike spirit. These classical tactics the Jews have applied in the course of centuries in different states and use them today with a perfection, in which they have attained experience in the course of centuries. It is worthy of note that at the present time the Jews preach – directly or with the help of freemasonic or theosophical organisations, Socialist and Communist parties, secret infiltration in different Christian churches, press, radio, and television controlled by them – Pacifism and disarmament in the free world, while in the Soviet Union and the other states under the totalitarian dictatorship they incite the peoples to war. While towards the end of the last war the USA and England disarmed in a dangerous way, they handed over to Communism vitally important positions, simultaneously destroyed the basic defense of these two great powers, and even traitorously betrayed to the Soviet Union and other Communist lands armed to the teeth the very weapons which they had stolen from the other countries. The “Fifth Column” has controlled the governments in Washington including atomic and rocket secrets. The tactics are fundamentally the same as twelve hundred years ago.”

    If you don’t see through that tripe, you are willfully blind.

    While towards the end of the last war the USA and England disarmed in a dangerous way, they handed over to Communism vitally important positions, simultaneously destroyed the basic defense of these two great powers, and even traitorously betrayed to the Soviet Union and other Communist lands armed to the teeth the very weapons which they had stolen from the other countries.

    Ever heard of the atomic bomb? What positions did they hand over to Communism? The one 0n the west side of the Elbe in exchange for the British position east of the Elbe on the Baltic? It’s known as trading.

    Sheesh.

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  • @TG
    I agree that "The Camp of the Saints" is a powerful work.

    However, I don't think the real issue is that the western elites are weak. The western elites are corrupt, and worship the short-term profits of cheap labor above all else. But not weak.

    Do you think that the elites are themselves going to sacrifice the slightest luxury to make room for all these third-world refugees? Are they really going to send their children to overcrowded public schools? Is Angela Merkel going to walk unescorted at night through a muslim no-go area? Not a chance. These people are not weak, they are selfish and ruthless and quite without sympathy or compassion for anyone but themselves.

    Look at the high walls and armed guards preventing any refugees from trespassing into the Papal state. No refugees will cause the Pope to lose any luxury or privacy or space, believe it, on pain of lethal force if necessary.

    The Roman Empire fell not by invasion, but by excessive immigration - encouraged by the elites and their love of cheap labor. Now emperor Valens was eventually killed by the same immigrants that he allowed in - as a source of cheap labor! But many of the Roman elites stripped the falling empire of all wealth not nailed down, purged the security forces of all non-ethnic Romans, and fled to the gated villa of Constantinople, where they and their descendants lived in luxury for 1000 years.

    I expect that, when it comes to it, our elites will do the same. And while I despise them, I would not call them weak. They are ruthless in driving down any opposition to their plan of remaking the west into a third-world sweatshop; they are equally ruthless at insulating themselves from the bad consequences of this policy, and they will be utterly without mercy when it comes time for them to be first into the lifeboats if the west eventually goes down to ruin.

    Guess, the “elites” are looking for Eastern Europe and Russia to refurbish their lives

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  • @Alden
    I asked what you looked like, not if you consider yourself in shape or not.

    Alden, being in shape is 1/2 of what you look like, right? I’m not gonna post a picture here for obvious reasons. I’m not a handsome guy by any means, but that’s not much under my control.

    Sorry for the late reply, as I thought this thread was done. Steve slowed it down a little bit for September, but I try to keep up with the articles I’m interested in and can’t help but writing (especially smart-ass remarks, as you may have noticed.)

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  • @Anon
    This is true. They mostly stopped when they became Christian though.

    Sorry, above was a reply to #40. No idea how it got where it is.

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  • @lavoisier
    How and why did they get this control?

    What does this say about us that we allowed this to happen in a nation where they comprise only a very tiny minority of the population?

    I would prefer to focus on our own failures as a people than to blame the destruction of the Republic on one small ethnic group.

    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?

    For there has to be something wrong with us to have participated so willingly in the destruction of our civilization.

    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?

    The Jews have a plan – they us our human nature against us.

    The pattern of human nature that they use is called the Stockholm syndrome.

    It has been documented that a group of people can be turned against themselves when they are captured and terrorized, and in the process, they are propagandized to believe that the terrorizers themselves are the true victims. The terrorists tell the those they captured, that they are doing this because they themselves are the real victims.

    The syndrome is that the captured group begin to sympathize with their terrorists. They take to heart that the terrorists are indeed victims, and that they should be supported.

    The facts of the situation are that people of consequence in America fear the Jews. They are terrorized by the Jews. Jews have a cultural hammer over them. They fear saying anything against the Jews. They fear for their livelihood. And they have been propagandized to believe in the six million lie of the holocaust. In effect they have been captured by the Jews – indeed the Jews control their culture. And they accept that the Jews are the great victims of our time.

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    You're exactly right. The tribe has already created a caliphate right here. The United States exists as a satellite of Israel.
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  • @Alden
    Ah yes, another 90 year old male virgin who thinks contraception was invented in 1960 when the BC pill went on the market and abortion was invented in 1973 Roe vs Wade heard from.

    Blacks and Hispanics get most of the abortions in this country. I'd rather spend my money supporting my White children than being taxed to support the blacks and Browns who will be born if abortion is criminalizes again.
    Were it not for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population, not 12 percent.

    Do you want to support that criminal welfare affirmative action population?

    Liberals do, but I sure don't.

    This is true. They mostly stopped when they became Christian though.

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    Sorry, above was a reply to #40. No idea how it got where it is.
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  • @Alden
    Ah yes, another 90 year old male virgin who thinks contraception was invented in 1960 when the BC pill went on the market and abortion was invented in 1973 Roe vs Wade heard from.

    Blacks and Hispanics get most of the abortions in this country. I'd rather spend my money supporting my White children than being taxed to support the blacks and Browns who will be born if abortion is criminalizes again.
    Were it not for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population, not 12 percent.

    Do you want to support that criminal welfare affirmative action population?

    Liberals do, but I sure don't.

    Population restriction by murder. What a truly delightful idea.

    I’d rather simply stop welfare as a government program.

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  • @Clark Westwood

    Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes – white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.
     
    And if that's not bad enough, think about what will happen when virtual-reality sex becomes a ... reality.

    Ah yes, another 90 year old male virgin who thinks contraception was invented in 1960 when the BC pill went on the market and abortion was invented in 1973 Roe vs Wade heard from.

    Blacks and Hispanics get most of the abortions in this country. I’d rather spend my money supporting my White children than being taxed to support the blacks and Browns who will be born if abortion is criminalizes again.
    Were it not for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population, not 12 percent.

    Do you want to support that criminal welfare affirmative action population?

    Liberals do, but I sure don’t.

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    Population restriction by murder. What a truly delightful idea.

    I'd rather simply stop welfare as a government program.
    , @Anon
    This is true. They mostly stopped when they became Christian though.
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  • @Anon
    Ah yes, the clownish notion that whites in the year 2017 can outbreed the third world. Four billion Africans alone this century, as any reader of this site should know.

    Have all the white kids you want. But the key to survival is stopping the third-world flood, not competing with it.

    I’ve noticed that almost all the morons who pontificate about other Whites having White children are middle aged White men who don’t have children and never will have children.

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    It's the internet, so you know, but that doesn't stop me from keeping in shape. For women, I recommend just a 15 min to 1/2 hour bike ride just 3 to 5 times/week. I have never ever seen a woman bicyclist be in anything but great shape. The cardio is great too, and women should not think they are immune to problems there.

    I asked what you looked like, not if you consider yourself in shape or not.

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    Alden, being in shape is 1/2 of what you look like, right? I'm not gonna post a picture here for obvious reasons. I'm not a handsome guy by any means, but that's not much under my control.

    Sorry for the late reply, as I thought this thread was done. Steve slowed it down a little bit for September, but I try to keep up with the articles I'm interested in and can't help but writing (especially smart-ass remarks, as you may have noticed.)

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  • @Pseudo 51
    As a Catholic traditionalist, I fear what St. Bernadette (of Lourdes fame) feared when faced with invasion by Prussians. She said she feared “bad Catholics.” One message of Our Lady of Fatima is war is avoided by, among other things, devotion to Jesus and to Mary. Our Lady interceded (pleaded with Jesus) on our behalf when Muslim invaders were at Tours and Vienna. These victories against overwhelming odds cannot be attributed to anything but miracles.

    As He was dying on the cross, Jesus did not tell St. John to “behold your mother” merely to have us feel sorry for His mother. If He had wanted mere sorrow, He would have said so clearly. In any event, the story and the miracle of Fatima make clear our mother is active in our lives.

    Of course we must vote and fight. Christians at Tours and Vienna fought. But our earthly pursuits must revolve around faith, devotion, and penance—things not to be relegated to occasional visits at a church.

    Finally, Jared Taylor’s concubine is not Jewish. I don’t know anything more about them.

    Evelyn Rich Taylor is his legally wed wife, not a concubine. She’s a Jew raised by her Jewish parents. You can go to Tulane university library and read her PHD thesis on evil White nationalists. You could probably email Tulane libraries and have them send you a copy of the thesis.

    She worked for ADL for years doing “research” on us evil Whites. It’s not allegations, she’s a Jew. What’s wrong with that? Lots of Jews marry the goyim.

    Taylor’s site is excellent for black on White crime, affirmative action, and an eye opener for White liberals.

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  • @Anon

    jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.
     
    True. They haven't poisoned the minds of white people. It's not as if they control the media, government, education, wall street, etc etc etc.

    How and why did they get this control?

    What does this say about us that we allowed this to happen in a nation where they comprise only a very tiny minority of the population?

    I would prefer to focus on our own failures as a people than to blame the destruction of the Republic on one small ethnic group.

    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?

    For there has to be something wrong with us to have participated so willingly in the destruction of our civilization.

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    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?
     
    The Jews have a plan - they us our human nature against us.

    The pattern of human nature that they use is called the Stockholm syndrome.

    It has been documented that a group of people can be turned against themselves when they are captured and terrorized, and in the process, they are propagandized to believe that the terrorizers themselves are the true victims. The terrorists tell the those they captured, that they are doing this because they themselves are the real victims.

    The syndrome is that the captured group begin to sympathize with their terrorists. They take to heart that the terrorists are indeed victims, and that they should be supported.

     

    The facts of the situation are that people of consequence in America fear the Jews. They are terrorized by the Jews. Jews have a cultural hammer over them. They fear saying anything against the Jews. They fear for their livelihood. And they have been propagandized to believe in the six million lie of the holocaust. In effect they have been captured by the Jews – indeed the Jews control their culture. And they accept that the Jews are the great victims of our time.
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  • @George Weinbaum
    I agree. Having been in Russia and China, I can tell you the vast majority, I'd say about 85%, of Russians and Chinese think Western European and American immigration policies are insane.
    The Russians I've met are concerned about Western countries armed with nuclear weapons with majority third world populations.

    “The Russians I’ve met are concerned about Western countries armed with nuclear weapons with majority third world populations”

    When that happens the USA will dismantle itz “nucalear” armaments, just like what happened in South Africa. Can you imagine third world peoplez having possession of our weapons. Won’t happen. Civilization will shift east to Japan and China.

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  • As a Catholic traditionalist, I fear what St. Bernadette (of Lourdes fame) feared when faced with invasion by Prussians. She said she feared “bad Catholics.” One message of Our Lady of Fatima is war is avoided by, among other things, devotion to Jesus and to Mary. Our Lady interceded (pleaded with Jesus) on our behalf when Muslim invaders were at Tours and Vienna. These victories against overwhelming odds cannot be attributed to anything but miracles.

    As He was dying on the cross, Jesus did not tell St. John to “behold your mother” merely to have us feel sorry for His mother. If He had wanted mere sorrow, He would have said so clearly. In any event, the story and the miracle of Fatima make clear our mother is active in our lives.

    Of course we must vote and fight. Christians at Tours and Vienna fought. But our earthly pursuits must revolve around faith, devotion, and penance—things not to be relegated to occasional visits at a church.

    Finally, Jared Taylor’s concubine is not Jewish. I don’t know anything more about them.

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    Evelyn Rich Taylor is his legally wed wife, not a concubine. She's a Jew raised by her Jewish parents. You can go to Tulane university library and read her PHD thesis on evil White nationalists. You could probably email Tulane libraries and have them send you a copy of the thesis.

    She worked for ADL for years doing "research" on us evil Whites. It's not allegations, she's a Jew. What's wrong with that? Lots of Jews marry the goyim.

    Taylor's site is excellent for black on White crime, affirmative action, and an eye opener for White liberals.
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  • I haven’t read Camp, wanting to.

    An earlier work by Karel Capeck (excuse lack of correct diacritical marks, too hard to enter) in 1936 has a not dissimalar theme, except the invaders are non-human amphibians from sth.-east asian seas.

    Title of the edition I have is different, but according to a quick search, titles in English are War with the Newts and War with the Salamanders.

    Also worth reading, IMHO.

    I read an interesting article (two-part) about Merkel on, not from. TOO earlier tonight, maybe the source was withdrawing permission, can’t finding it now, but much of interest on her career as DDR functionary, then just after.it.

    Always amusing pour moi, how she loves to making a triangle figure with her hands.

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  • @Alvaro Beauchamp
    He deliberately avoided identifying the Third World invasion force with Muslims, Arabs, Maghrebinians or Africans and instead opted for the rather unrealistic scenario of Indians travelling all the way to Europe on a flotilla because he didn't want to open that special can of worms. And because it doesn't matter in the end: the book (as well as our real world crisis) is not about Them, it is about Us.

    Yes, that makes sense. I was used to the .Indian story just from reading the book so didn’t think much more of it, but, yes, France already had the former colony crowd influx back then. Writing about that would have been too much truth in one shot. You are right, the book is about us. That’s why I think the translator did a tremendous job. It’s not so easy to translate the thoughts/feelings of the Western people well in the book, vs. say an action book.

    Going my your name, possibly you read it in the original French, non?

    Thanks for the reply, Alvaro.

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    Can you elaborate on that, Pyrrhus? Was it specific French political stuff of that time period that he left out?

    He could publish it today, but he'd have to live in hiding in Uruguay.

    He deliberately avoided identifying the Third World invasion force with Muslims, Arabs, Maghrebinians or Africans and instead opted for the rather unrealistic scenario of Indians travelling all the way to Europe on a flotilla because he didn’t want to open that special can of worms. And because it doesn’t matter in the end: the book (as well as our real world crisis) is not about Them, it is about Us.

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    Yes, that makes sense. I was used to the .Indian story just from reading the book so didn't think much more of it, but, yes, France already had the former colony crowd influx back then. Writing about that would have been too much truth in one shot. You are right, the book is about us. That's why I think the translator did a tremendous job. It's not so easy to translate the thoughts/feelings of the Western people well in the book, vs. say an action book.

    Going my your name, possibly you read it in the original French, non?

    Thanks for the reply, Alvaro.
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  • @Alden
    How many children do you have?

    Ah yes, the clownish notion that whites in the year 2017 can outbreed the third world. Four billion Africans alone this century, as any reader of this site should know.

    Have all the white kids you want. But the key to survival is stopping the third-world flood, not competing with it.

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    I've noticed that almost all the morons who pontificate about other Whites having White children are middle aged White men who don't have children and never will have children.
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  • @Hairway To Steven
    At the high end -- let's say the upper ten percent -- the Brazilians might outscore the Argentinians in attractiveness, but, on average, the Argentinians are better looking. There are a lot of weird mulatto-type combos in Brazil that don't work all that well, and that brings down the average for them. Brazil's reputation as the land of reliably scrumptious female booty is also over-rated, although the upper one or two percent is extraordinary.

    Having spent quite enough time in South America these past several years, I find your assessment precise. Most of Brasil–the part tourists never see–is an absolute horror show. The sad thing is that they’re doing their level best to ruin the one really good thing they have–their wilderness.

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  • @alvin firpo
    while the jews can be blamed for many things jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.

    hitler was right about everything; however, white, western governments, and their liberal sycophantic followers, would rather subject white societies to systematic racial extermination than to acknowledge that truth.

    hitler is routinely memed by jewish interests as being the most notable of the "anti-christs"; not a day goes by that one cannot find some mention of his dastardly deeds. this constant bombardment of hitler's evils, and by extension whitey's evils, serves to pave the way for jewish plans of global dominance via the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    curiously, the jewish bible is replete with examples of ywhw coming to the aid of the tribe in times of dire circumstance, yet, white, western civilization, which is largely responsible for the global spread of christianity, will be destroyed as its jewish godhead lifts not a finger in their defense.

    jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.

    True. They haven’t poisoned the minds of white people. It’s not as if they control the media, government, education, wall street, etc etc etc.

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    How and why did they get this control?

    What does this say about us that we allowed this to happen in a nation where they comprise only a very tiny minority of the population?

    I would prefer to focus on our own failures as a people than to blame the destruction of the Republic on one small ethnic group.

    I am not giving the Jews a free pass. I am well aware of how many destructive movements in modern day America have Jewish roots.

    I am asking what is wrong with us that we have allowed them to exert such an influence over us?

    For there has to be something wrong with us to have participated so willingly in the destruction of our civilization.
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  • @lavoisier
    I am no defender of the Jewish pied pipers and their siren calls to destroy Western nations through uncontrolled Third World immigration.

    But none of this would have happened, NONE of this, without the acquiescence and encouragement of the brain dead white liberal ethnomasochists.

    How many Jews live in Sweden?

    How many in Germany?

    How many in the United States?

    It is the brain-dead white liberal who is the enemy, even if they are only following the suicidal siren calls of their Jewish pied piper masters.

    Whites are brainwashed with the fake & impossible ‘holocaust’ absurdities that they have had shoved down their throat by the Zionist dominated media & controlled ‘academia’.

    That’s how it came about.

    Nothing changes until the impossible Big Lie is accepted by the masses as a profitable fraud that does not withstand rational, scientific scrutiny.

    [MORE]

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

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  • Those who aspire to lead the Alt Right needs to remember this lesson:

    “I’ve lost for all time the ancient sword of my fathers whose power was meant to unite all men, not to serve the vanity of a single man.”

    There’s been too much pissing contest of egos and recriminations among Alt Right figures.

    We need someone who can rise above the fray and lead all men and negotiate the differences.

    We need an Arthur, not a Patrick Bateman. We need a nationalist, not a narcissist.

    None has emerged yet, but the king will come… one day.

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  • Today’s proglodytes are like possessed satanists. Like the girl in THE EXORCIST.

    They are into Virtue Vaping.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/us/vaping-abuse/index.html

    They gotta suck on that PC nicotine. It gives them this high and they need it more and more as they are so devoid of meaning, morality, and spirituality. They have no sense of history, community, family, or responsibility. They are selfish cretins. So, they need to feel justified, and they get it from vaping on PC.

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  • @Alden
    Jared's wife and mother of his Jewish children is a Jew and worked for the ADL for years. She did research on evil White Nationalists. She has a PHD from Tulane in anti White studies. Her thesis was all about us evil Whites. How anyone could study at Tulane and still love blacks and hate Whites is beyond comphrension.

    Every pro White site has its place. Amren focuses on black crime, destruction of cities, affirmative action and confederate heritage. That's excellent.

    Vdare focuses on immigration, and race replacement.
    Occidentalobserver focuses on the history of Jews destroying every culture and country they have penetrated.
    Unz focuses on Anerican foreign policy misdeeds.

    All the websites have different viewership. Amren is great for the brainwashed naive who are only vaguely aware of black on White crime and affirmative action.

    I didn't learn anything new about Jews when I read the culture of critic trilogy by Dr MacDonald or Occidental observer. But most people will learn a lot from those books and the website.

    If one skips over the evangelical bible pages and Israel uber alles Catholic Saint of the day, naive patriotism etc,
    Freerepublic is an excellent site for pro White news, black on White crime, affirmative action etc.

    All the sites are good. Most goy pro Israel types are evangelical bible thumper Protestants. Let them go to Amren and Freerepublic for black on White crime and affirmative action. The more Whites who realize how oppressed we are, the better.

    I do recall the many allegations of Jared’s wife being Jewish and an ADL asset due to her relationship with them and this probably explains his aversion to the Jewish question. They say opposites attract but in real life that’s a recipe for marital discord and divorce, so at least on the surface they sound like a very odd couple.

    Since Jared Taylor places all of the blame for white plight on whites themselves and blacks some believe his organization was set up to draw attention away from Jews and the Jewish question. That’s a fair assessment especially since someone who relies on logic, evidence and scientific data to profile and make value judgments about the blacks and other non-whites races airily and sometimes sarcastically dismisses hard evidence about Jewish power, influence and anti-white activism and scientific data proving that the Jews are not genetically identical or very similar to white Europeans just because they look “hawhite”.

    But whatever his motives his site does a great job of red pilling normies and educating race realist newbies and providing important information about racial reality in America and the racial basis of America’s founding that one can’t get from mainstream sources. There are a number of good sites and they all have their particular niche.

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  • @pyrrhus
    Raspail knew that his book would not have been published in France if he had been more honest about certain things. Today, it probably couldn't have been published in France even as it is....

    Can you elaborate on that, Pyrrhus? Was it specific French political stuff of that time period that he left out?

    He could publish it today, but he’d have to live in hiding in Uruguay.

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    He deliberately avoided identifying the Third World invasion force with Muslims, Arabs, Maghrebinians or Africans and instead opted for the rather unrealistic scenario of Indians travelling all the way to Europe on a flotilla because he didn't want to open that special can of worms. And because it doesn't matter in the end: the book (as well as our real world crisis) is not about Them, it is about Us.
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  • @Alden
    What do you look like?

    It’s the internet, so you know, but that doesn’t stop me from keeping in shape. For women, I recommend just a 15 min to 1/2 hour bike ride just 3 to 5 times/week. I have never ever seen a woman bicyclist be in anything but great shape. The cardio is great too, and women should not think they are immune to problems there.

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    I asked what you looked like, not if you consider yourself in shape or not.
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  • Check out this brilliant video about Multi-racialism/multiculturalism in Sweden. Must Watch. Sweden is now worse than a Communist country but it is carried out under the facade of a democracy.

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  • @Alden
    Thank you so much for the information about the Jewish collaboration with Muslims back in 650-700 AD.

    You are Welcome. More people need to know this.

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  • No worries. Just as 1984 has been turned into an operating manual, instead of a dystopian novel with a warning–so will Camp of the Saints be turned into an operating manual by the prog-left.

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  • Left vs Right

    is about

    Self-Righteousness vs Self-Preservation

    It is about

    Feeling vs Being

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  • @Art
    White European culture is going down in direct apportion to its loss of Christianity.

    Europe was superior because of the Christian words and ideals that guided it.

    A major word and ideal of Christianity is “hope.” Christians always want a better tomorrow – whereas Easterners want a steady unchanging yin/yang – Muslims a world dependent on god – and Africans to get to the next season. Christians are always unsatisfied with today. The combination of live with hope, life is sacred, seek the truth, love your neighbor, forgive the past, extend grace – was the difference between Europe and all else.

    As it abandons Christianity - Europe is socially dying. No children – little innovation – little if any spiritually – it squabbles with a zero-sum mindset – clearly it is dying.

    Think Peace --- Art

    How many children do you have?

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    Ah yes, the clownish notion that whites in the year 2017 can outbreed the third world. Four billion Africans alone this century, as any reader of this site should know.

    Have all the white kids you want. But the key to survival is stopping the third-world flood, not competing with it.

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  • For all you gentlemen who have no idea of human reproduction please read this.

    And don’t bother jumping in and calling me a feminazi slut whore who stole a man’s job. I did my part: 4 White N. European children, all born in holy wedlock, 2 of whom are drop dead Botticelii Goddesses. And 8 White N European grandchildren.

    For a group of guys who seem to be engineers programmers, scientist math account types, some of you come across like 90 year old virgins.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_reproductive_system

    The human reproductive system usually involves internal fertilization by sexual intercourse.

    Male and Female Reproductive System Organs – ThoughtCo

    https://www.thoughtco.com › Science, Tech, Math › Science › Biology › Anatomy

    Jan 30, 2017 – The organs of the human female reproductive system. … The primary function of the reproductive system is to produce male and female sex …

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  • For all you gentlemen who think birth control did not exist until 1960 when the first birth control went on the market and abortion did not exist until the US legalized it in 1973 please read

    Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Birth control and abortion are well documented in Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. (See History of abortion.) … Another early document explicitly referring to birth control methods is the Kahun Gynecological Papyrus from about 1850 BCE.
    History of birth control – Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control

    History of birth control – Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control

    Jump to Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, and Rome – Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Birth control and abortion are well documented in Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. (See History of abortion.) … Another early document explicitly referring to birth control methods is the Kahun Gynecological Papyrus from about 1850 BCE.
    ‎Ancient world · ‎Medieval and early … · ‎South Asia · ‎Europe

    9 Forms of Birth Control Used in the Ancient World | Mental Floss

    mentalfloss.com/article/83685/9-forms-birth-control-used-ancient-world

    Jul 28, 2016 – But women and men in ancient cultures used a variety of unusual methods … Here are nine forms of birth control used in the ancient world, from Greece to China. … Starting around the 16th century BCE, Egyptian and Mesopotamian …. Nicholas Gibbs, a historian and TV writer, claims he has solved one of …

    Images for history contraception ancient …

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    [PDF]An Illustrated History of Contraception – Muvs

    bib.muvs.org/data/mvs_004053/volume_2.pdf

    I Titfe ContracePtion History ‘. 613.9’4’09 ….. Since herbs have been used since ancient times, it is likely that occasionally …. Mesopotamian Madonna (c.

    How did Medicine develop in the Ancient World? – DailyHistory.org

    https://dailyhistory.org/How_did_Medicine_develop_in_the_Ancient_World%3F

    Jan 1, 2017 – Early medicine developed in a number of societies, both in the New and Old … Egypt and Mesopotamia arguably developed the first true urban and … There were method for birth control, such as using a paste of dates, …. Strange Medicine: A Shocking History of Real Medical Practices Through the Ages.

    Early methods of birth control – Science Museum
    http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/techniques/earlymethodsofbirthcontrol

    Ancient texts record herbal recipes intended to prevent conception. … A McLaren, A History of Contraception: From Antiquity to the Present Day (Oxford: B.
    Missing: mesopotamia

    Ancient Civilizations and Birth Control

    what-when-how.com/birth-control/ancient-civilizations-and-birth-control/

    The record of the past was conceived as that of a single people and the early … available in either Egypt or Mesopotamia is therefore less evident in China.

    You Will be Shocked by the Methods Women Used in the Past to …

    https://moco-choco.com/…/you-will-be-shocked-by-the-methods-women-used-in-the-…

    Nov 5, 2014 – In the past women used to have many babies which was not … History of Birth Control, Ancient Egypt, 3021 b.c …. Ancient Mesopotamia used perhaps the most medically agreeable and positive method of contraception.

    “Birth control” In: The Encyclopedia of Ancient History
    onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781444338386.wbeah21002/pdf

    by JM Riddle – ‎Cited by 1 – ‎Related articles
    Ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian records have recipes … texts discuss both abortion and
    contraception. From the … an undefined time period to accept or not.

    15 Of The Weirdest Forms Of Contraception From Ancient History
    http://www.babygaga.com/15-of-the-weirdest-forms-of-contraception-from-ancient-history/
    Oct 8, 2016 – 15 Ancient Mesopotamian and Ancient Egyptian Societies … is a long one and new methods for contraception developed as time passed.

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  • @Priss Factor
    'Brace' for diminutive hurricane Ben.

    LOL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhQqXtWvkqE

    Ben Shapiro is a mouthy con man – a false flag conservative – he is a neocon Jew – working for the tribe.

    Make no mistake – his ultimate goal is to shut down free speech and gun ownership.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. The Jew always want to lead the opposition – that way no bad words about Jews can be spoken.

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  • White European culture is going down in direct apportion to its loss of Christianity.

    Europe was superior because of the Christian words and ideals that guided it.

    A major word and ideal of Christianity is “hope.” Christians always want a better tomorrow – whereas Easterners want a steady unchanging yin/yang – Muslims a world dependent on god – and Africans to get to the next season. Christians are always unsatisfied with today. The combination of live with hope, life is sacred, seek the truth, love your neighbor, forgive the past, extend grace – was the difference between Europe and all else.

    As it abandons Christianity – Europe is socially dying. No children – little innovation – little if any spiritually – it squabbles with a zero-sum mindset – clearly it is dying.

    Think Peace — Art

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  • @RadicalCenter
    Your basic point is of course correct.

    But it's been a long time since white peoples in the USA, Canada, of Europe had 5 kids per woman on average. Not twenty years. Not even fifty years ago was that the case, I'm guessing.

    I, too, was distracted and confused by our intentionally sick culture, so I was no longer that young when I got it together -- gave up pornography, tossed the life-wasting TV, greatly reduced my drinking, controlled my spending/borrowing -- married my wife, and had our wonderful children. The lapse of time between generations is indeed a problem.

    But if white people would simply all have kids, even later on life than is ideal, we would stand a much better chance.

    Just when did the average White N American or European family have an average of 5 children? Do you mean babies who lived to adulthood or babies who died before age 5?

    Miscarriages, still births and babies who died before 5 don’t count.

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  • @anonymous
    "race’s suicide"

    It's about transformation through race mixing rather than racial suicide. The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.

    Ever been to Argentina?

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  • @KenH
    Up until recently Chris Roberts wrote for American Renaissance whose policy is that since the Jews look "hawhite" to Jared Taylor they are white and with few exceptions should be considered as allies and as just another branch of the white race.

    AmRen and Jared Taylor do very good work on behalf of white people but are doing a grave disservice peddling this nonsense and lying by omitting the Jewish role in the decline and looming fall of Western man and Western nations. I think Amren knows better but has made a tactical decision to act as if the problems facing white America and the West are entirely self inflicted.

    Jared’s wife and mother of his Jewish children is a Jew and worked for the ADL for years. She did research on evil White Nationalists. She has a PHD from Tulane in anti White studies. Her thesis was all about us evil Whites. How anyone could study at Tulane and still love blacks and hate Whites is beyond comphrension.

    Every pro White site has its place. Amren focuses on black crime, destruction of cities, affirmative action and confederate heritage. That’s excellent.

    Vdare focuses on immigration, and race replacement.
    Occidentalobserver focuses on the history of Jews destroying every culture and country they have penetrated.
    Unz focuses on Anerican foreign policy misdeeds.

    All the websites have different viewership. Amren is great for the brainwashed naive who are only vaguely aware of black on White crime and affirmative action.

    I didn’t learn anything new about Jews when I read the culture of critic trilogy by Dr MacDonald or Occidental observer. But most people will learn a lot from those books and the website.

    If one skips over the evangelical bible pages and Israel uber alles Catholic Saint of the day, naive patriotism etc,
    Freerepublic is an excellent site for pro White news, black on White crime, affirmative action etc.

    All the sites are good. Most goy pro Israel types are evangelical bible thumper Protestants. Let them go to Amren and Freerepublic for black on White crime and affirmative action. The more Whites who realize how oppressed we are, the better.

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    I do recall the many allegations of Jared's wife being Jewish and an ADL asset due to her relationship with them and this probably explains his aversion to the Jewish question. They say opposites attract but in real life that's a recipe for marital discord and divorce, so at least on the surface they sound like a very odd couple.

    Since Jared Taylor places all of the blame for white plight on whites themselves and blacks some believe his organization was set up to draw attention away from Jews and the Jewish question. That's a fair assessment especially since someone who relies on logic, evidence and scientific data to profile and make value judgments about the blacks and other non-whites races airily and sometimes sarcastically dismisses hard evidence about Jewish power, influence and anti-white activism and scientific data proving that the Jews are not genetically identical or very similar to white Europeans just because they look "hawhite".

    But whatever his motives his site does a great job of red pilling normies and educating race realist newbies and providing important information about racial reality in America and the racial basis of America's founding that one can't get from mainstream sources. There are a number of good sites and they all have their particular niche.

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  • @wayfarer
    "Israel Directly Helping Muslims and Africans Invade Europe"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLbPSQx-I-I

    "Zionist Jews Happily Brag About Being at The Center of the Muslim Invasion of Europe"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk25AeFWMNs

    "Manufactured Destruction of Europe"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx1T120m7Oc

    "White Genocide Explained by Its Architects"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWsuKbeg50E

    Raspail knew that his book would not have been published in France if he had been more honest about certain things. Today, it probably couldn’t have been published in France even as it is….

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    Can you elaborate on that, Pyrrhus? Was it specific French political stuff of that time period that he left out?

    He could publish it today, but he'd have to live in hiding in Uruguay.

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  • @Michelle
    I have never heard Argentinians refered to as particularly attractive. Brazilians, yes. Argentinians, no.

    At the high end — let’s say the upper ten percent — the Brazilians might outscore the Argentinians in attractiveness, but, on average, the Argentinians are better looking. There are a lot of weird mulatto-type combos in Brazil that don’t work all that well, and that brings down the average for them. Brazil’s reputation as the land of reliably scrumptious female booty is also over-rated, although the upper one or two percent is extraordinary.

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    Having spent quite enough time in South America these past several years, I find your assessment precise. Most of Brasil--the part tourists never see--is an absolute horror show. The sad thing is that they're doing their level best to ruin the one really good thing they have--their wilderness.
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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    I beg to differ. I've seen some pretty hot ones, one just a month back, on a plane. However, race-mixing or no-race-mixing, they need to get their rear ends and abs in shape - that's what matters most in this world.

    BTW, getting back to the post subject, the book "Camp of the Saints", it does have some sex scenes in it. Now that I've got your attention, it was not what you think, so ... kinda gross in fact.

    Don't let that stop you from buying or borrowing this amazingly prescient book from 1975.

    What do you look like?

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    It's the internet, so you know, but that doesn't stop me from keeping in shape. For women, I recommend just a 15 min to 1/2 hour bike ride just 3 to 5 times/week. I have never ever seen a woman bicyclist be in anything but great shape. The cardio is great too, and women should not think they are immune to problems there.
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  • @c matt
    the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    Well, sort of. The racial extermination tactics whites experience are largely self-inflicted. Via abortion, contraception, and consumerism, the average reproduction of whites is dismally low. Where a white family might have averaged 5 kids 50 years ago, they don't even average 2 now. Where a generation was once separated by 20 years, they are now separated by 30. Someone above mentioned 100 years = 5 generations; now it equals 3.3; we have lost 1.7 generations. Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes - white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.

    How many White children do you have? Practice what you preach. You also should look up the racial statistics on abortion. The overwhelming majority, like 9 blacks and Browns to 2 White abortions are blacks and Hispanics. If it were not for abortion and contraception blacks would be 30 percent, not 12 percent of the population.

    Do you want those additional criminals and welfare burdens around?

    Contraception? contraception? Go ahead and marry a normally healthy 20 year old woman. Have a normal sex life. Don’t use contraception.
    By the time she is 35 you’ll have at least 12 kids and more on the way. Enjoy supporting them.

    FYI re: contraception it wasn’t invented with the pill in 1960. It’s been around for thousands of years. The most used method was withdrawal douches and pennyroyal tea couple of times a week and sponges and vinegar and condoms and anal and oral and manual.
    Abortion was legal in most European and American countries until English doctors and English and American feminazis started an anti abortion movement around 1860.

    Abortion was only illegal in the United States about 100 years depending on individual state laws, around 1870 to 1974.

    There were far, far more abortions when it was illegal than after it became legal again. Since you are so ignorant about human reproduction I’ll explain why.

    1 lack of reliable birth control before the pill 1960 and IUDs 1970. Condoms, rhythm nethod ( abstaining for 7 fertile days) withdrawal, diaphrams douches sponges foam etc just aren’t reliable.
    So until the pill, many babies were not intended.

    2 Early marriage, wide spread marriage staying married. Peak fertility for women is 15 to 25 end of peak fertility is 30. But there is a major, major difference between not peak fertility and end of fertility. So don’t assume like all the 90 year old male virgins that 30 to 40 means non fertile.

    Early marriage means 15 to 30 year old women are having regular sex and thus get pregnant.

    3 The vast majority of adults getting married in their 20s means regular sex maybe 10 15 times a month without reliable birth control for most adults meant more babies.

    I gather the 90 year old male virgins think all 16 to 40 year old unmarried women go to sex orgies 7 days a week but they don’t. its only women living with a man who have the opportunity fot sex every day.

    Conservative women know about human reproduction but conservative men seem totally ignorant about human reproduction even married fathers.

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  • @Michelle
    I have never heard Argentinians refered to as particularly attractive. Brazilians, yes. Argentinians, no.

    I beg to differ. I’ve seen some pretty hot ones, one just a month back, on a plane. However, race-mixing or no-race-mixing, they need to get their rear ends and abs in shape – that’s what matters most in this world.

    BTW, getting back to the post subject, the book “Camp of the Saints”, it does have some sex scenes in it. Now that I’ve got your attention, it was not what you think, so … kinda gross in fact.

    Don’t let that stop you from buying or borrowing this amazingly prescient book from 1975.

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    What do you look like?
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  • @RadicalCenter
    Your basic point is of course correct.

    But it's been a long time since white peoples in the USA, Canada, of Europe had 5 kids per woman on average. Not twenty years. Not even fifty years ago was that the case, I'm guessing.

    I, too, was distracted and confused by our intentionally sick culture, so I was no longer that young when I got it together -- gave up pornography, tossed the life-wasting TV, greatly reduced my drinking, controlled my spending/borrowing -- married my wife, and had our wonderful children. The lapse of time between generations is indeed a problem.

    But if white people would simply all have kids, even later on life than is ideal, we would stand a much better chance.

    Practice what you preach and have and support 5 kids.

    It’s not demographics. Our government did all the damage between 1956 and 1973 when Whites were the overwhelming majority during the baby boom.

    By 1973 it was all over for Whites: 1956 Brown vs Topeka, 1964 civil rights act
    1965 unlimited. immigration act 1968 affirmative action no Whites apply act
    1970 Nixon creates Hispanic race by executive order 1973* Griggs vs Duke Power eliminates merit employment and college admissions.

    * I think Griggs was 1973 ask google if you want exact date.

    Being the majority never helped the underclasses or untouchables which Whites are in America. You’re familiar with English history aren’t you?

    Norman conquest: 10,000 Norman and Breton invaders conquered more than a million Celtic, Scandinavian and Anglo Saxon English and ruled for centuries.

    1550 to 1920s. A small minority of English immigrant Protestants ruled a vast majority of native indigenous Irish Catholics and turned them into an oppressed starved majority in their own land.

    1850 to 1948 5,000 British officials and a few thousand British business people ruled hundreds of millions of Indians.

    It’s naive to think that being in the majority will help Whites. It didn’t help us when we surrendered to our own government’s attacks on us 1956 to 1973.

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  • ‘Brace’ for diminutive hurricane Ben.

    LOL.

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    • Replies: @Art
    Ben Shapiro is a mouthy con man - a false flag conservative - he is a neocon Jew - working for the tribe.

    Make no mistake - his ultimate goal is to shut down free speech and gun ownership.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. The Jew always want to lead the opposition – that way no bad words about Jews can be spoken.
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  • @Malla
    This is all because of the invade the world, invite the world policy of the elites. It is very important to read this book about Semitic treachery
    Without inside Semetic help, 12,000 Moors could not have defeated 100000 Spanish Visigoths Warriors on European soil. No way, not possible.

    https://ia802702.us.archive.org/17/items/ThePlotAgainstTheChurch_192/PlotAgainstTheCurchComplete.pdf

    In Page 315, we read “Marcelino Menendez Pelayo, the renowned Spanish historian of the previous century, writes concerning the treachery of the Jews: “The indigenous population would have been able to show resistance to the handful of Arabs who crossed the Straits, but Witiza had disarmed them, levelled the towers to the ground and had the lances turned into harrows.”125 While the Visigoth kingdom disarmed under the influence of the Jewish advisors and friends of Witiza, dismantled its defence and destroyed its war power, the Jews encouraged the Musulmans to fall upon the Christian kingdom and to destroy it. Great preparations were made in North Africa for this. Into the land which the Jews wished to destroy they introduced pacifism, and into the land which should serve them as a tool to destroy the other, a warlike spirit. These classical tactics the Jews have applied in the course of centuries in different states and use them today with a perfection, in which they have attained experience in the course of centuries. It is worthy of note that at the present time the Jews preach – directly or with the help of freemasonic or theosophical organisations, Socialist and Communist parties, secret infiltration in different Christian churches, press, radio, and television controlled by them – Pacifism and disarmament in the free world, while in the Soviet Union and the other states under the totalitarian dictatorship they incite the peoples to war. While towards the end of the last war the USA and England disarmed in a dangerous way, they handed over to Communism vitally important positions, simultaneously destroyed the basic defense of these two great powers, and even traitorously betrayed to the Soviet Union and other Communist lands armed to the teeth the very weapons which they had stolen from the other countries. The “Fifth Column” has controlled the governments in Washington including atomic and rocket secrets. The tactics are fundamentally the same as twelve hundred years ago.”

    Thank you so much for the information about the Jewish collaboration with Muslims back in 650-700 AD.

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    You are Welcome. More people need to know this.
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  • @anonymous
    "race’s suicide"

    It's about transformation through race mixing rather than racial suicide. The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.

    Too optimistic still. Europe’s invaders are far more African and Arab than America’s invaders, and whites in UK and western Europe typically have substantially fewer kids on average than whites in the USA.

    Europe would be lucky to look and feel like Argentina In a century.

    In fact, my wife and I expect that if we don’t take the family to visit the U.K., France, Scandinavia, and Germany within the fairly near future, they will no longer be sufficiently safe, welcoming, peaceful, intelligent, civilized places to risk bringing our kids to and to spend our money on.

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  • @c matt
    the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    Well, sort of. The racial extermination tactics whites experience are largely self-inflicted. Via abortion, contraception, and consumerism, the average reproduction of whites is dismally low. Where a white family might have averaged 5 kids 50 years ago, they don't even average 2 now. Where a generation was once separated by 20 years, they are now separated by 30. Someone above mentioned 100 years = 5 generations; now it equals 3.3; we have lost 1.7 generations. Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes - white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.

    Your basic point is of course correct.

    But it’s been a long time since white peoples in the USA, Canada, of Europe had 5 kids per woman on average. Not twenty years. Not even fifty years ago was that the case, I’m guessing.

    I, too, was distracted and confused by our intentionally sick culture, so I was no longer that young when I got it together — gave up pornography, tossed the life-wasting TV, greatly reduced my drinking, controlled my spending/borrowing — married my wife, and had our wonderful children. The lapse of time between generations is indeed a problem.

    But if white people would simply all have kids, even later on life than is ideal, we would stand a much better chance.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Practice what you preach and have and support 5 kids.

    It's not demographics. Our government did all the damage between 1956 and 1973 when Whites were the overwhelming majority during the baby boom.

    By 1973 it was all over for Whites: 1956 Brown vs Topeka, 1964 civil rights act
    1965 unlimited. immigration act 1968 affirmative action no Whites apply act
    1970 Nixon creates Hispanic race by executive order 1973* Griggs vs Duke Power eliminates merit employment and college admissions.

    * I think Griggs was 1973 ask google if you want exact date.

    Being the majority never helped the underclasses or untouchables which Whites are in America. You're familiar with English history aren't you?

    Norman conquest: 10,000 Norman and Breton invaders conquered more than a million Celtic, Scandinavian and Anglo Saxon English and ruled for centuries.

    1550 to 1920s. A small minority of English immigrant Protestants ruled a vast majority of native indigenous Irish Catholics and turned them into an oppressed starved majority in their own land.

    1850 to 1948 5,000 British officials and a few thousand British business people ruled hundreds of millions of Indians.

    It's naive to think that being in the majority will help Whites. It didn't help us when we surrendered to our own government's attacks on us 1956 to 1973.
    , @Alden
    Just when did the average White N American or European family have an average of 5 children? Do you mean babies who lived to adulthood or babies who died before age 5?

    Miscarriages, still births and babies who died before 5 don't count.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Who on earth is “Clémont Dio”? I’ve been in close contact with France for 40 years and I’ve never heard of him! Googling gets me nowhere and the link provided in the article is to VDare articles about Dieudonné. More generally, one might remark that the VDare people are constantly shouting “America First”, and preaching national sovereignty and non-intervention in other countries affairs (except, of course, when it’s Putin that’s doing it) and yet they claim to tell us white Europeans how to exercise our national sovereignty. Do white people in Europe have no rights?

    Telling my close friend, brother, or cousin not to let murderers, rapists, and thieves into his neighborhood and house, is not violating his supposed sovereignty.

    Irrational pussy.

    Start growing that beard now.

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  • @Hairway To Steven

    The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.
     
    In other words, they will be more physically attractive than the average European today?

    I have never heard Argentinians refered to as particularly attractive. Brazilians, yes. Argentinians, no.

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    I beg to differ. I've seen some pretty hot ones, one just a month back, on a plane. However, race-mixing or no-race-mixing, they need to get their rear ends and abs in shape - that's what matters most in this world.

    BTW, getting back to the post subject, the book "Camp of the Saints", it does have some sex scenes in it. Now that I've got your attention, it was not what you think, so ... kinda gross in fact.

    Don't let that stop you from buying or borrowing this amazingly prescient book from 1975.

    , @Hairway To Steven
    At the high end -- let's say the upper ten percent -- the Brazilians might outscore the Argentinians in attractiveness, but, on average, the Argentinians are better looking. There are a lot of weird mulatto-type combos in Brazil that don't work all that well, and that brings down the average for them. Brazil's reputation as the land of reliably scrumptious female booty is also over-rated, although the upper one or two percent is extraordinary.
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  • Waiting for the Barbarians by C. P. Cavafy

    What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum?

    The barbarians are due here today.

    Why isn’t anything happening in the senate?
    Why do the senators sit there without legislating?

    Because the barbarians are coming today.
    What laws can the senators make now?
    Once the barbarians are here, they’ll do the legislating.

    Why did our emperor get up so early,
    and why is he sitting at the city’s main gate
    on his throne, in state, wearing the crown?

    Because the barbarians are coming today
    and the emperor is waiting to receive their leader.
    He has even prepared a scroll to give him,
    replete with titles, with imposing names.

    [MORE]

    Why have our two consuls and praetors come out today
    wearing their embroidered, their scarlet togas?
    Why have they put on bracelets with so many amethysts,
    and rings sparkling with magnificent emeralds?
    Why are they carrying elegant canes
    beautifully worked in silver and gold?

    Because the barbarians are coming today
    and things like that dazzle the barbarians.

    Why don’t our distinguished orators come forward as usual
    to make their speeches, say what they have to say?

    Because the barbarians are coming today
    and they’re bored by rhetoric and public speaking.

    Why this sudden restlessness, this confusion?
    (How serious people’s faces have become.)
    Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
    everyone going home so lost in thought?

    Because night has fallen and the barbarians have not come.
    And some who have just returned from the border say
    there are no barbarians any longer.

    And now, what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?
    They were, those people, a kind of solution.

    Translated by Edmund Keeley/Philip Sherrard

    (C.P. Cavafy, Collected Poems. Translated by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard. Edited by George Savidis. Revised Edition. Princeton University Press, 1992)

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  • @Wally
    The author says "there are no easy answers".

    IOW, he avoids the observable and obvious problems.

    ex.:
    The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?

    I am no defender of the Jewish pied pipers and their siren calls to destroy Western nations through uncontrolled Third World immigration.

    But none of this would have happened, NONE of this, without the acquiescence and encouragement of the brain dead white liberal ethnomasochists.

    How many Jews live in Sweden?

    How many in Germany?

    How many in the United States?

    It is the brain-dead white liberal who is the enemy, even if they are only following the suicidal siren calls of their Jewish pied piper masters.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Whites are brainwashed with the fake & impossible 'holocaust' absurdities that they have had shoved down their throat by the Zionist dominated media & controlled 'academia'.

    That's how it came about.

    Nothing changes until the impossible Big Lie is accepted by the masses as a profitable fraud that does not withstand rational, scientific scrutiny.

    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     
    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
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  • @c matt
    the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    Well, sort of. The racial extermination tactics whites experience are largely self-inflicted. Via abortion, contraception, and consumerism, the average reproduction of whites is dismally low. Where a white family might have averaged 5 kids 50 years ago, they don't even average 2 now. Where a generation was once separated by 20 years, they are now separated by 30. Someone above mentioned 100 years = 5 generations; now it equals 3.3; we have lost 1.7 generations. Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes - white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.

    Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes – white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.

    And if that’s not bad enough, think about what will happen when virtual-reality sex becomes a … reality.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Ah yes, another 90 year old male virgin who thinks contraception was invented in 1960 when the BC pill went on the market and abortion was invented in 1973 Roe vs Wade heard from.

    Blacks and Hispanics get most of the abortions in this country. I'd rather spend my money supporting my White children than being taxed to support the blacks and Browns who will be born if abortion is criminalizes again.
    Were it not for abortion blacks would be about 35 percent of the population, not 12 percent.

    Do you want to support that criminal welfare affirmative action population?

    Liberals do, but I sure don't.
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  • @anonymous
    "race’s suicide"

    It's about transformation through race mixing rather than racial suicide. The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.

    The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.

    In other words, they will be more physically attractive than the average European today?

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    I have never heard Argentinians refered to as particularly attractive. Brazilians, yes. Argentinians, no.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:

    How many psychologists does it take to screw a bulb? No number is enough, if the bulb doesn’t want to be screwed.

    One of the main laws of human psychology.
    And, of course, psychology is decisive, all stemming from the mind: journalists by trade and very pragmatic people may miss it; a true artist doesn’t (and doesn’t pretend he does).

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  • @alvin firpo
    while the jews can be blamed for many things jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.

    hitler was right about everything; however, white, western governments, and their liberal sycophantic followers, would rather subject white societies to systematic racial extermination than to acknowledge that truth.

    hitler is routinely memed by jewish interests as being the most notable of the "anti-christs"; not a day goes by that one cannot find some mention of his dastardly deeds. this constant bombardment of hitler's evils, and by extension whitey's evils, serves to pave the way for jewish plans of global dominance via the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    curiously, the jewish bible is replete with examples of ywhw coming to the aid of the tribe in times of dire circumstance, yet, white, western civilization, which is largely responsible for the global spread of christianity, will be destroyed as its jewish godhead lifts not a finger in their defense.

    the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    Well, sort of. The racial extermination tactics whites experience are largely self-inflicted. Via abortion, contraception, and consumerism, the average reproduction of whites is dismally low. Where a white family might have averaged 5 kids 50 years ago, they don’t even average 2 now. Where a generation was once separated by 20 years, they are now separated by 30. Someone above mentioned 100 years = 5 generations; now it equals 3.3; we have lost 1.7 generations. Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes – white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.

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    Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes – white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.
     
    And if that's not bad enough, think about what will happen when virtual-reality sex becomes a ... reality.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Your basic point is of course correct.

    But it's been a long time since white peoples in the USA, Canada, of Europe had 5 kids per woman on average. Not twenty years. Not even fifty years ago was that the case, I'm guessing.

    I, too, was distracted and confused by our intentionally sick culture, so I was no longer that young when I got it together -- gave up pornography, tossed the life-wasting TV, greatly reduced my drinking, controlled my spending/borrowing -- married my wife, and had our wonderful children. The lapse of time between generations is indeed a problem.

    But if white people would simply all have kids, even later on life than is ideal, we would stand a much better chance.

    , @Alden
    How many White children do you have? Practice what you preach. You also should look up the racial statistics on abortion. The overwhelming majority, like 9 blacks and Browns to 2 White abortions are blacks and Hispanics. If it were not for abortion and contraception blacks would be 30 percent, not 12 percent of the population.

    Do you want those additional criminals and welfare burdens around?

    Contraception? contraception? Go ahead and marry a normally healthy 20 year old woman. Have a normal sex life. Don't use contraception.
    By the time she is 35 you'll have at least 12 kids and more on the way. Enjoy supporting them.

    FYI re: contraception it wasn't invented with the pill in 1960. It's been around for thousands of years. The most used method was withdrawal douches and pennyroyal tea couple of times a week and sponges and vinegar and condoms and anal and oral and manual.
    Abortion was legal in most European and American countries until English doctors and English and American feminazis started an anti abortion movement around 1860.

    Abortion was only illegal in the United States about 100 years depending on individual state laws, around 1870 to 1974.

    There were far, far more abortions when it was illegal than after it became legal again. Since you are so ignorant about human reproduction I'll explain why.

    1 lack of reliable birth control before the pill 1960 and IUDs 1970. Condoms, rhythm nethod ( abstaining for 7 fertile days) withdrawal, diaphrams douches sponges foam etc just aren't reliable.
    So until the pill, many babies were not intended.

    2 Early marriage, wide spread marriage staying married. Peak fertility for women is 15 to 25 end of peak fertility is 30. But there is a major, major difference between not peak fertility and end of fertility. So don't assume like all the 90 year old male virgins that 30 to 40 means non fertile.

    Early marriage means 15 to 30 year old women are having regular sex and thus get pregnant.

    3 The vast majority of adults getting married in their 20s means regular sex maybe 10 15 times a month without reliable birth control for most adults meant more babies.

    I gather the 90 year old male virgins think all 16 to 40 year old unmarried women go to sex orgies 7 days a week but they don't. its only women living with a man who have the opportunity fot sex every day.

    Conservative women know about human reproduction but conservative men seem totally ignorant about human reproduction even married fathers.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    Who on earth is “Clémont Dio”? I’ve been in close contact with France for 40 years and I’ve never heard of him! Googling gets me nowhere and the link provided in the article is to VDare articles about Dieudonné. More generally, one might remark that the VDare people are constantly shouting “America First”, and preaching national sovereignty and non-intervention in other countries affairs (except, of course, when it’s Putin that’s doing it) and yet they claim to tell us white Europeans how to exercise our national sovereignty. Do white people in Europe have no rights?

    [re VDare:] (except, of course, when it’s Putin that’s doing it)

    That is a complete lie, Mr. Kenny. I’ve read VDare for a long time, and I’ve NEVER seen an anti-Putin article up there. The writers have various opinions on other parts of politics, but I don’t believe there are any neocons at all. Not all the writers are “in love” with the man or even thing he’s one of the good guys, but they have never written about anything bad about Russia’s foreign policy or his domestic policy.

    Where did you get that lie from?

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  • Who on earth is “Clémont Dio”? I’ve been in close contact with France for 40 years and I’ve never heard of him! Googling gets me nowhere and the link provided in the article is to VDare articles about Dieudonné. More generally, one might remark that the VDare people are constantly shouting “America First”, and preaching national sovereignty and non-intervention in other countries affairs (except, of course, when it’s Putin that’s doing it) and yet they claim to tell us white Europeans how to exercise our national sovereignty. Do white people in Europe have no rights?

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    [re VDare:] (except, of course, when it’s Putin that’s doing it)

    That is a complete lie, Mr. Kenny. I've read VDare for a long time, and I've NEVER seen an anti-Putin article up there. The writers have various opinions on other parts of politics, but I don't believe there are any neocons at all. Not all the writers are "in love" with the man or even thing he's one of the good guys, but they have never written about anything bad about Russia's foreign policy or his domestic policy.

    Where did you get that lie from?
    , @RadicalCenter
    Telling my close friend, brother, or cousin not to let murderers, rapists, and thieves into his neighborhood and house, is not violating his supposed sovereignty.

    Irrational pussy.

    Start growing that beard now.
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  • At the same time, the novel portrays the West’s valiant remnant: An aging professor who has always known this day would come and is happy to make a last stand, rifle at the ready

    “All my life I’ve awaited your coming … and dreaded it!”

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  • Submission- a Novel, by Michael Houellebecq is a good up date to the Camp of the Saints

    from Amazon:

    It’s 2022. François is bored. He’s a middle-aged lecturer at the New Sorbonne University and an expert on J. K. Huysmans, the famed nineteenth-century novelist associated with the Decadent movement. But François’s own decadence is of considerably smaller scale. He sleeps with his students, eats microwave dinners, and watches YouPorn.

    Meanwhile, it’s election season, and in an alliance with the Socialists, France’s new Islamic party sweeps to power―and Islamic law is instituted. Women are veiled, polygamy is encouraged, and François is offered an irresistible academic advancement―on the condition that he converts to Islam.

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  • @Wally
    The author says "there are no easy answers".

    IOW, he avoids the observable and obvious problems.

    ex.:
    The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?

    while the jews can be blamed for many things jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.

    hitler was right about everything; however, white, western governments, and their liberal sycophantic followers, would rather subject white societies to systematic racial extermination than to acknowledge that truth.

    hitler is routinely memed by jewish interests as being the most notable of the “anti-christs”; not a day goes by that one cannot find some mention of his dastardly deeds. this constant bombardment of hitler’s evils, and by extension whitey’s evils, serves to pave the way for jewish plans of global dominance via the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    curiously, the jewish bible is replete with examples of ywhw coming to the aid of the tribe in times of dire circumstance, yet, white, western civilization, which is largely responsible for the global spread of christianity, will be destroyed as its jewish godhead lifts not a finger in their defense.

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    • Replies: @c matt
    the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    Well, sort of. The racial extermination tactics whites experience are largely self-inflicted. Via abortion, contraception, and consumerism, the average reproduction of whites is dismally low. Where a white family might have averaged 5 kids 50 years ago, they don't even average 2 now. Where a generation was once separated by 20 years, they are now separated by 30. Someone above mentioned 100 years = 5 generations; now it equals 3.3; we have lost 1.7 generations. Toss in abortion and contraception, and yes - white extermination, or more precisely, white suicide.
    , @Anon

    jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.
     
    True. They haven't poisoned the minds of white people. It's not as if they control the media, government, education, wall street, etc etc etc.
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  • @Tyrion

    The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?
     
    Israel is a normal country when it comes to immigration policy. It is Western Europe and derivations thereof that are weird.

    Nonetheless, the same voices exist in Israel as they do in America. It is just that the sensible majority tells them to shut up. Interestingly, it tends to be the Western-European part of the population that speaks as Western Europeans while the Russian and Middle Easterners cleave to sensible views.

    From an Israeli perspective it is Western Europeans who push demographic transition.

    In other words, a smaller Camp of Saints could be written for Israel and it would play out in the same way. That is until the near-ending, when the uncouth masses would make their feelings quite clear to the virtue-signalling priestly class. Perhaps by returning someone like Netanyahu to power time and time again, very clearly against elite wishes, or perhaps by building social institutions that proclude non-majoritarian migration.

    Identity is power, but Western European voters have been more concerned by welfare payments or slightly lower taxes for too long to vote as single issue voters on the pre-ordinate issue. Maybe this is changing? The elites will blow with the wind if the wind is sustained enough.

    I agree. Having been in Russia and China, I can tell you the vast majority, I’d say about 85%, of Russians and Chinese think Western European and American immigration policies are insane.
    The Russians I’ve met are concerned about Western countries armed with nuclear weapons with majority third world populations.

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    "The Russians I’ve met are concerned about Western countries armed with nuclear weapons with majority third world populations"

    When that happens the USA will dismantle itz "nucalear" armaments, just like what happened in South Africa. Can you imagine third world peoplez having possession of our weapons. Won't happen. Civilization will shift east to Japan and China.

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  • @Wally
    The author says "there are no easy answers".

    IOW, he avoids the observable and obvious problems.

    ex.:
    The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?

    Up until recently Chris Roberts wrote for American Renaissance whose policy is that since the Jews look “hawhite” to Jared Taylor they are white and with few exceptions should be considered as allies and as just another branch of the white race.

    AmRen and Jared Taylor do very good work on behalf of white people but are doing a grave disservice peddling this nonsense and lying by omitting the Jewish role in the decline and looming fall of Western man and Western nations. I think Amren knows better but has made a tactical decision to act as if the problems facing white America and the West are entirely self inflicted.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Jared's wife and mother of his Jewish children is a Jew and worked for the ADL for years. She did research on evil White Nationalists. She has a PHD from Tulane in anti White studies. Her thesis was all about us evil Whites. How anyone could study at Tulane and still love blacks and hate Whites is beyond comphrension.

    Every pro White site has its place. Amren focuses on black crime, destruction of cities, affirmative action and confederate heritage. That's excellent.

    Vdare focuses on immigration, and race replacement.
    Occidentalobserver focuses on the history of Jews destroying every culture and country they have penetrated.
    Unz focuses on Anerican foreign policy misdeeds.

    All the websites have different viewership. Amren is great for the brainwashed naive who are only vaguely aware of black on White crime and affirmative action.

    I didn't learn anything new about Jews when I read the culture of critic trilogy by Dr MacDonald or Occidental observer. But most people will learn a lot from those books and the website.

    If one skips over the evangelical bible pages and Israel uber alles Catholic Saint of the day, naive patriotism etc,
    Freerepublic is an excellent site for pro White news, black on White crime, affirmative action etc.

    All the sites are good. Most goy pro Israel types are evangelical bible thumper Protestants. Let them go to Amren and Freerepublic for black on White crime and affirmative action. The more Whites who realize how oppressed we are, the better.
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  • “race’s suicide”

    It’s about transformation through race mixing rather than racial suicide. The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.

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    The people who will emerge 100 years from now after 5 generations of race mixing will still identify as Europeans and look whitish. They will be just like Argentineans.
     
    In other words, they will be more physically attractive than the average European today?
    , @RadicalCenter
    Too optimistic still. Europe's invaders are far more African and Arab than America's invaders, and whites in UK and western Europe typically have substantially fewer kids on average than whites in the USA.

    Europe would be lucky to look and feel like Argentina In a century.

    In fact, my wife and I expect that if we don't take the family to visit the U.K., France, Scandinavia, and Germany within the fairly near future, they will no longer be sufficiently safe, welcoming, peaceful, intelligent, civilized places to risk bringing our kids to and to spend our money on.
    , @Alden
    Ever been to Argentina?
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  • I agree that “The Camp of the Saints” is a powerful work.

    However, I don’t think the real issue is that the western elites are weak. The western elites are corrupt, and worship the short-term profits of cheap labor above all else. But not weak.

    Do you think that the elites are themselves going to sacrifice the slightest luxury to make room for all these third-world refugees? Are they really going to send their children to overcrowded public schools? Is Angela Merkel going to walk unescorted at night through a muslim no-go area? Not a chance. These people are not weak, they are selfish and ruthless and quite without sympathy or compassion for anyone but themselves.

    Look at the high walls and armed guards preventing any refugees from trespassing into the Papal state. No refugees will cause the Pope to lose any luxury or privacy or space, believe it, on pain of lethal force if necessary.

    The Roman Empire fell not by invasion, but by excessive immigration – encouraged by the elites and their love of cheap labor. Now emperor Valens was eventually killed by the same immigrants that he allowed in – as a source of cheap labor! But many of the Roman elites stripped the falling empire of all wealth not nailed down, purged the security forces of all non-ethnic Romans, and fled to the gated villa of Constantinople, where they and their descendants lived in luxury for 1000 years.

    I expect that, when it comes to it, our elites will do the same. And while I despise them, I would not call them weak. They are ruthless in driving down any opposition to their plan of remaking the west into a third-world sweatshop; they are equally ruthless at insulating themselves from the bad consequences of this policy, and they will be utterly without mercy when it comes time for them to be first into the lifeboats if the west eventually goes down to ruin.

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    Guess, the "elites" are looking for Eastern Europe and Russia to refurbish their lives
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  • Why the West HATES and is DESTROYING Itself

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  • The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?

    Israel is a normal country when it comes to immigration policy. It is Western Europe and derivations thereof that are weird.

    Nonetheless, the same voices exist in Israel as they do in America. It is just that the sensible majority tells them to shut up. Interestingly, it tends to be the Western-European part of the population that speaks as Western Europeans while the Russian and Middle Easterners cleave to sensible views.

    From an Israeli perspective it is Western Europeans who push demographic transition.

    In other words, a smaller Camp of Saints could be written for Israel and it would play out in the same way. That is until the near-ending, when the uncouth masses would make their feelings quite clear to the virtue-signalling priestly class. Perhaps by returning someone like Netanyahu to power time and time again, very clearly against elite wishes, or perhaps by building social institutions that proclude non-majoritarian migration.

    Identity is power, but Western European voters have been more concerned by welfare payments or slightly lower taxes for too long to vote as single issue voters on the pre-ordinate issue. Maybe this is changing? The elites will blow with the wind if the wind is sustained enough.

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    I agree. Having been in Russia and China, I can tell you the vast majority, I'd say about 85%, of Russians and Chinese think Western European and American immigration policies are insane.
    The Russians I've met are concerned about Western countries armed with nuclear weapons with majority third world populations.
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  • Muslims have been used by Zionists for centuries to attain their aims.
    Besides, Islam itself was started by the ancestors of the Zionists to use Arabs as a tool to destroy the Persian and Byzantine Empires. This is the Persian Empire which saved the Jews from Babylon during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the same Persian Empire whose government the Zionists themselves controlled, the same Persian Empire where the Zionists of that time killed the Persian nationalist Haman and his sons. The Byzantines had barred Jews from any position of power or from banking however they were permitted to stay as normal subjects. The Byzantines had to go.

    http://thechristiansolution.com/tcs_book/SupportDocs_TCS/TCS158.htm

    http://www.thechristiansolution.com/Exilarch.html

    https://exposingthelieofislam.wordpress.com/the-truth-about-the-origins-and-spread-of-islam-how-the-jews-developed-the-program-of-islam-to-invade-and-destroy-the-east/

    Of course Islam, like Christianity, went out of their control and Islam became an Arab project and then a Muslim project including non Arab Muslims (Ajams) under the Abbasid Caliphate period

    Also many are convinced that the Saudi royal family is Jewish

    https://www.memri.org/tv/pro-syrian-former-lebanese-minister-wiam-wahhab-saudi-royal-family-was-originally-jewish-was

    https://concisepolitics.com/2016/04/28/the-documented-jewish-roots-of-saudi-royal-family/

    http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/2002-iraqi-intel-reported-wahhabis-are-jewish-origin

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2015/05/saudis-attacking-houthis-because-saud.html

    The chosen people Elites used White/Western/Christian armies to invade the Middle East for oil, benefit of Israel etc… using propaganda and media manipulation to fool the common people of the West (They hate our democracy) and then invite the same middle eastern peoples and the common people of the West have to pick up the bill. The whole plan is brilliant.
    So what I think is that Zionists are gonna destroy Europe and the West using Muslims (and blacks and others). Native Europeans are being made passive and weak full of guilt and self hate via Christian churches, media, education, guilt, fear of the word “racist” etc… while Muslims are allowed to enter and then are exposed to Jewish Wahabi ideology via the Jewish Saudi family as well as Marxist ideology about colonialism and the evil White man .
    Similarly Zionists are supporting anti – Muslim organizations from through out the world including fundamentalist Hindutva organizations in India and fundamentalist Buddhist organizations in Sri Lanka for example like the BBS.
    The aim is to create civil wars throughout the World using the Zionist-Saudi, non muslim-muslim, pincer tactic. That way Israel can sell more ammo and make money. Muslims have always been the punching bags of the Zionists to be used like a swarm of barbarians to attain some Zionist objectives. ISIS for example was started in the same fashion by the CIA -Mossad-Saudi establishment. There are also rumours that the obnoxious Islamist in Britain Anjem Choudhary who enjoys riling up the native Britons over Sharia is a MI6 (Zionist Establishment) agent.
    Also worth nothing is that recently we have seen the collapse of truel British nationalist groups like the BNP who target all non White people in Britain to leave Britain and the rise of selectively anti Islamic parties like the EDL who only target Muslims. This is because the BNP refused to become a whore of Zionist money and hence get controlled by them. Their refusal led to a massive campaign by the BBC and establishment to destroy the BNP. But the EDL on the hand gets much more of a free pass.
    A Christian Vs Muslim Mega war is planned which is good for the Zionists and Israel.

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  • This is all because of the invade the world, invite the world policy of the elites. It is very important to read this book about Semitic treachery
    Without inside Semetic help, 12,000 Moors could not have defeated 100000 Spanish Visigoths Warriors on European soil. No way, not possible.

    https://ia802702.us.archive.org/17/items/ThePlotAgainstTheChurch_192/PlotAgainstTheCurchComplete.pdf

    In Page 315, we read “Marcelino Menendez Pelayo, the renowned Spanish historian of the previous century, writes concerning the treachery of the Jews: “The indigenous population would have been able to show resistance to the handful of Arabs who crossed the Straits, but Witiza had disarmed them, levelled the towers to the ground and had the lances turned into harrows.”125 While the Visigoth kingdom disarmed under the influence of the Jewish advisors and friends of Witiza, dismantled its defence and destroyed its war power, the Jews encouraged the Musulmans to fall upon the Christian kingdom and to destroy it. Great preparations were made in North Africa for this. Into the land which the Jews wished to destroy they introduced pacifism, and into the land which should serve them as a tool to destroy the other, a warlike spirit. These classical tactics the Jews have applied in the course of centuries in different states and use them today with a perfection, in which they have attained experience in the course of centuries. It is worthy of note that at the present time the Jews preach – directly or with the help of freemasonic or theosophical organisations, Socialist and Communist parties, secret infiltration in different Christian churches, press, radio, and television controlled by them – Pacifism and disarmament in the free world, while in the Soviet Union and the other states under the totalitarian dictatorship they incite the peoples to war. While towards the end of the last war the USA and England disarmed in a dangerous way, they handed over to Communism vitally important positions, simultaneously destroyed the basic defense of these two great powers, and even traitorously betrayed to the Soviet Union and other Communist lands armed to the teeth the very weapons which they had stolen from the other countries. The “Fifth Column” has controlled the governments in Washington including atomic and rocket secrets. The tactics are fundamentally the same as twelve hundred years ago.”

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    Thank you so much for the information about the Jewish collaboration with Muslims back in 650-700 AD.
    , @Thirdeye
    If you don't see through that tripe, you are willfully blind.

    While towards the end of the last war the USA and England disarmed in a dangerous way, they handed over to Communism vitally important positions, simultaneously destroyed the basic defense of these two great powers, and even traitorously betrayed to the Soviet Union and other Communist lands armed to the teeth the very weapons which they had stolen from the other countries.
     
    Ever heard of the atomic bomb? What positions did they hand over to Communism? The one 0n the west side of the Elbe in exchange for the British position east of the Elbe on the Baltic? It's known as trading.

    Sheesh.
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  • http://www.achgut.com/artikel/deutschland_und_der_blitzkrieg_der_mitmenschlichkeit

    Alas few here read german, I suppose.
    The article shows that Germans with common sense do exist, those not burdened by the guilt the WWII victors threw and throw on them.
    These common sense Germans understand that Germany on its own cannot change the world for the better.

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  • The author says “there are no easy answers”.

    IOW, he avoids the observable and obvious problems.

    ex.:
    The author curiously avoids the fact that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while they demand massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe?

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    Up until recently Chris Roberts wrote for American Renaissance whose policy is that since the Jews look "hawhite" to Jared Taylor they are white and with few exceptions should be considered as allies and as just another branch of the white race.

    AmRen and Jared Taylor do very good work on behalf of white people but are doing a grave disservice peddling this nonsense and lying by omitting the Jewish role in the decline and looming fall of Western man and Western nations. I think Amren knows better but has made a tactical decision to act as if the problems facing white America and the West are entirely self inflicted.
    , @alvin firpo
    while the jews can be blamed for many things jews cannot be blamed for whites having no spine.

    hitler was right about everything; however, white, western governments, and their liberal sycophantic followers, would rather subject white societies to systematic racial extermination than to acknowledge that truth.

    hitler is routinely memed by jewish interests as being the most notable of the "anti-christs"; not a day goes by that one cannot find some mention of his dastardly deeds. this constant bombardment of hitler's evils, and by extension whitey's evils, serves to pave the way for jewish plans of global dominance via the same racial extermination tactics they bemoaned 70 years ago.

    curiously, the jewish bible is replete with examples of ywhw coming to the aid of the tribe in times of dire circumstance, yet, white, western civilization, which is largely responsible for the global spread of christianity, will be destroyed as its jewish godhead lifts not a finger in their defense.
    , @lavoisier
    I am no defender of the Jewish pied pipers and their siren calls to destroy Western nations through uncontrolled Third World immigration.

    But none of this would have happened, NONE of this, without the acquiescence and encouragement of the brain dead white liberal ethnomasochists.

    How many Jews live in Sweden?

    How many in Germany?

    How many in the United States?

    It is the brain-dead white liberal who is the enemy, even if they are only following the suicidal siren calls of their Jewish pied piper masters.

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  • “Israel Directly Helping Muslims and Africans Invade Europe”

    “Zionist Jews Happily Brag About Being at The Center of the Muslim Invasion of Europe”

    “Manufactured Destruction of Europe”

    “White Genocide Explained by Its Architects”

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    Raspail knew that his book would not have been published in France if he had been more honest about certain things. Today, it probably couldn't have been published in France even as it is....
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  • An interesting niche in the political Left has appeared over the last 18 months. They are a segment of the Bernie Sanders wing of the Left, socialists who oppose racial identity politics generally and the shaming of poor whites in particular. I call them the anti-anti-white Left. They are vehemently opposed to the Clinton family...
  • The hatred of white people is the Left’s raison d’etre. Imagining a Leftist who doesn’t hate white people is like imagining an ISIS fighter who hates Huhammed. Since 1965 and the introduction of systematic genocide against American whites, it is the glue that holds the Left together. In the great, bloated flowchart of Leftist outrage, the hatred of white people will always be number one on the list, and will be the filter through which all things are passed: immigration, the environment, the economy, whatever. So calling them anti-white Socialists or whatever is a misnomer. They are Socialist anti-whites.

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  • @Robert Hume
    "I used to consder myself more or less a leftist, but now I realize that a good part of this was thinking that “of course” I was a leftist because I was not a “racist”. I still find vulgar “racism” quite distasteful and often morally wrong (although having thrown off the shackles of “anti-racism” it is easy to be tempted by it). But ideological “anti-racism”, which in practice is “anti-whiteism”, now strikes me as something worse, and it is worse because it is inherently ideological."

    When I was young, in the 1940s,I was upset by my upper class parents distaste for "white trash". Apparently being anti-white working-class goes way back, and so does being instinctively anti-anti-white among a few.

    Interesting. I am decades younger, at least, but it seems we are playing the long game.

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  • I probably passed through something like the “anti-anti-white left” stage you describe on my way out of the left entirely. (Although some online political quiz I took disagrees with me and calls me an “authoritarian leftist” like Stalin.) I’m still a trade unionist, but I can’t read Jacobin anymore. For every decent piece, they’ve got 10 pieces about the plight of the female Guatemalan stoop laborer or whatever.

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  • @Anon
    As Sanders proved, the white-hating left currently controls the Democrats, and I don't see the antis gaining any future traction among the leftists. The Browns and Blacks must have a mark to work their gimmedat con on, and working whites are the designated victim. Browns and Blacks know they have no hope of replacing the upper-middle white intelligensia at their jobs, but they can successfully kick the white working class out of theirs, as long as B & Bs can continue to guilt trip/hector the intelligensia into arranging the defenestration. Unfortunately for America, the B & Bs have found that chasing after their economic interests dovetails perfectly with the class and cultural warfare the intelligensia is furiously practicing against working class whites. A classic pro-worker Marxist would have shot our entire intelligensia, although the latter would be stunned to realize that.

    The antis work against Identity Politics with their traditional pro-labor stance. They will be either purged or discouraged into leaving the Democrats, and I predict they'll be voting Republican in 2020. The rump of the Democrat party isn't getting more tolerant or saner. Those people who were sane are leaving or have already left.

    They will learn, by ultimatum if need be: Abandon anti-white identity politics, or be condemned to irrelevance in the absence of our support, You still need us, tie your panties in as many knots as you need to, but thems the facts. Be thankful we haven’t joined the right wholesale, you pricks deserve it.

    –Regards

    Whitey.

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  • A few “leftists” have already made some good comments here, but I’ll chime in as well:
    No, there is not much chance of making them “white advocates”.

    Here’s what the Sanders (your “anti-anti-white”) people have in common with the Trump people: they like the idea of everyone, including themselves, having the option to be paid well for doing a good job. (Trump didn’t talk about race; he talked about jobs for legal American citizens, regardless of race)

    Here’s what unites these “Sanders” people, and where they differ from the “Trump” people: they believe that enormous and ever-increasing income inequality (remember the statistics that Sanders constantly quoted?) is the primary reason why that’s not happening. They see all other issues (both “left” and “right”, both “pro-white” and “anti-white”) as a distraction.

    So even if some of them WERE sympathetic to *ahem* “white advocate” arguments that “white culture” must be protected, they’d point out that over the last 40 years, the richest 0.1% of the US population has taken a much greater % of per capita US GDP from other “whites” than all the other races and cultures combined have done, and that reversing that would be the quickest way to improve the lot of these “whites”, who could then use the money to promote their traditional culture if they wanted, but that would come AFTER income inequality was reversed to the levels of at least 1980.

    If there was a candidate who was BOTH a “white advocate” AND credibly promised to bring income inequality back to 1980 levels, though? Well… I suspect it would depend a lot on how much finesse that candidate had. I don’t think it would fly if the candidate actually called him/herself a “white advocate”. It might if the candidate spoke of “creating more trust-filled communities” (because studies show immigration increases distrust), studying what works best for different cultures, of using patient genes to improve health treatments, all consensual and data-based of course; that sort of thing. It would be more likely to work if the candidate was an “America advocate” like Trump, rather than a “white advocate”, who promised to make the US economy less outsourced, to rely more on its own people (that would actually be one way of reducing the income inequality).

    As for myself, although I didn’t vote (because I’m Canadian), the fact that Trump talked fairly sensibly on foreign policy and Hillary was a mainstream neoconservative would have been enough for me to cast my vote for him if I had been able to.

    That was even a bigger issue for me this time than the environment (putting global warming aside, I really don’t like the polluted air and water that our current energy sources cause and hope they find a way to replace them in my lifetime, though I fear they never will).

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  • Its about time that the sincere well meaning liberals challenge the race baiting false narrative of the elitist libs, new left fanatics, and radicalized afro americans. A balkanized American narrative of constant racial grievances is not good for anyone involved. The elitist/academics/MSM like to pontificate from afar about things that they do not have any substantial personal experience in (yet calling others with substantial personal experiences as merely anecdotal).

    We already have the economic burden of a huge national debt, coupled with limited savings rate, which erodes our ability to invest (that includes govt bonds). We shouldn’t add racial balkanization to the problem. But for the new left, it is the only way they can get useful idiots to follow their own destructive agenda, while the rest of us suffer for it.

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  • @Carlton Meyer
    Polls showed that Sanders would have beat Trump by 10 percentage points. It would have been more if he stuck to his principles. Early in his campaign, Sanders spoke out against open borders, but then dropped that issue for unknown reasons. From my blog:

    Aug 1, 2015 - Sanders for President!

    Most readers would be shocked to learn they support most views of Senator Bernie Sanders, who our TV tells us is an evil socialist. Spend a few minutes to watch this recent interview to discover the truth, which includes:

    The interviewer suggests that Sanders’ espousal of democratic socialism entails putting certain international concerns before national ones with policies like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. Sanders responds:

    “Open borders? No. That’s a Koch brothers proposal; a right-wing proposal, which would make everybody in America poorer—you’re doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don’t think there’s any country in the world that believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.

    You know what youth unemployment is in the United States of America today? If you’re a white high school graduate, it’s 33 percent, Hispanic 36 percent, African American 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?

    I think from a moral responsibility we’ve got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don’t do that by making people in this country even poorer.”

    The corporate sponsored Democrat Party must keep this madman out of any debates. He’ll stomp Hillary.

    __________________________

    Whatever one think about this issue, the rich Democrat elites put an illegal alien on stage to give a speech on the opening night of their convention. Given the polls showing the American working class angry about mass illegal immigration, this was just stupid, evidenced by the light applause, and a good example of why Clinton loss.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8IfRNwyfaM

    Once again, nothing has robbed poor blacks, latinos, and whites of economic opportunities more than mass illegal immigration. They may not speak about it in public, but they know it's true. It hurts healthcare for everyone too, as a visit to the waiting room of any American hospital ER will demonstrate.

    I agree with every thing you stated. I supported Sanders until I discovered he was pro-Zionist and pro-war. I did not bother to vote and was not disappointed when the DNC stabbed him in the back. It rankles me that I have to write this but here it is. If I am perceived as being an anti-Semite then I am the strangest anti-Semite that has crawled from under a rock. Back in the day in 1973, I was drinking at the University of Saarbrucken, at a bar (cavernous) called the Canosa. I had to use the bathroom. This incident occurred during the war between Israel and Arab countries. Next to my urinal was a young man, he was slight of build and maybe five and one-half foot tall.
    I myself am not an imposing physical specimen; I am five feet, ten inches tall and at that time weighed one-hundred, forty-five pounds.
    As the both of us were relieving ourselves, four Saudis came into the bathroom and confronted that young man. They asked him if he was Jewish and he said that he was. I could tell from the timbre of his voice that he was frightened. I knew that these Saudis were going to stomp him. The smallest of the Saudis was taller than I was. As I pulled up my zipper I faced them and said that I was a Jew also (I am not.) I then faced them and was ready to die and die. The ball was in their court and they chose not to serve, instead they turned around and walked out. Punks. All I can say is thank God for PTSD (Vietnam) and I was ready for the Twilight of the Gods. They weren’t.

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  • We need our own homeland
    Mama Don’t Take My Homeland Away

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  • @dfordoom

    Most whites still don’t realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.
     
    But there are irreconcilable political differences between whites. Liberals might as well be a different species.

    And there are irreconcilable political differences between the globalist elites (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be) and everyone else (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be).

    But there are irreconcilable political differences between whites. Liberals might as well be a different species.

    Hard to disagree with that statement, but it’s mostly due to the brainwashing whites receive when they go to college and sometimes even before. Several of my previously normal high school friends became bat shit insane liberals once they went to college. One guy I knew was fond of saying the dreaded “n” word but when I saw him his junior year in college he had turned into a total anti-racist and must have called me a racist at least 15 times (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not) over the course of the two hours we spent together.

    And there are irreconcilable political differences between the globalist elites (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be) and everyone else (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be).

    Sounds like the Alex Jones narrative whereby the “globalist elites” and “illuminati” are opposed by a rag tag band of rainbow populists. Trump ran on a populist, anti-globalist platform and 80% of the votes he received came from whites. The “global elite” now speak derisively of populism and use it in a pejorative manner to mean racist, intolerant white people who are resisting attempts to turn their nations into global plantations and third world dung heaps via mass immigration.

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  • “Is it reasonable to think that around one in four of these anti-anti-white socialists could become white advocates?”

    I admin and moderate multiple alt-left groups on Facebook, and I also do a blog and YouTube channel devoted to what this article calls anti-anti-white leftism. So I am deep in this movement. I can assure you that there is little interest in white advocacy among this group overall, but it has some adherents, especially among the early alt-leftists (think Beyond Highbrow or AltLeft.com). But even that is sketchy. The tendency, however, is towards class rather than race realism. The two are very hard to reconcile naturally.

    Our dislike of cultural Marxism lies in the fact that it detracts from the economic basis of classic Marxist thought. The kind of anti white, anti male thinking prevalent on the left today is as a result of an erosion of class consciousness and a gradual invisiblizing of relations of production as a source of inequality and privilege. As a result, the postmodern left attributes inequality to cultures promoting racism and discrimination because they’re without any other explanation once political economy is factored out. We oppose anti-white leftism, but for very different reasons than AmRen would – because it promotes a false consciousness and false understanding of the real nature of privilege. We think this kind of “leftism” enjoys corporate backing in mainstream media for largely this reason.

    The tendency at AmRen would be to attribute inequality across racial demographics to innate genetic differences between the races. Personally, I would not rule this out, but it’s generally outside the scope of our main concern, which is economic relations.

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  • @WorkingClass
    The Alt-Left are class realists. If "left" is an ideology, class realists are the only left there is. Clinton Democrats hate the working class and love the ruling class while pandering to their coalition of the fringes. For Class realists the Centrist (read Corporatist) D's and R's are largely one and the same. Class realists will not be drawn into racial politics because they seek solidarity among the working classes. The Republicans have nominated and the country has elected a populist in Donald Trump. Populism exists in left and right flavors. I am a class realist myself and I much prefer Trump's right flavored populism to the corporatism of the Bushes and Clintons.

    Working class Mexicans, Blaxx, Whites, Feminists and Queers have much more in common with the each other than with the .01%. Given a choice most of us would choose peace over war and prosperity over welfare.

    Class realist? I like that. Perhaps we know each other?

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  • @Daniel Chieh
    We actually voted Republican until relatively recently for what it is worth. I still do, but for a long time, there was an anticommunist legacy such that most Asian immigrants came from countries that suffered from communism and tended to vote against the Coalition of the Fringes.

    This does seem to have changed lately, tragically.

    We actually voted Republican until relatively recently for what it is worth. I still do…

    That’s what a selective immigration policy will lead to.

    The good ones will still get in. The rest can campaign for benefits back home.

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  • matt says:
    @Thirdeye

    The name of “national socialism” is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters...
     
    True. The original DAP was formed by leftists who were disillusioned with the SPD in the aftermath of WWI and weren't crazy about the anti-nationalist stance of the Bolsheviks. Their racial ideology came largely due to the influence of ethnic Germans from the eastern diaspora who came to Germany proper (e.g. Alfred Rosenberg) and the association of Bolshevism with Russian jews. And of course the socialist aspects of their ideology were dropped in order to cut the deals with those who financed their rise to power.

    The original DAP was formed by leftists who were disillusioned with the SPD in the aftermath of WWI and weren’t crazy about the anti-nationalist stance of the Bolsheviks.

    That’s just false. The founders of the DAP weren’t former members of the SPD or in any way associated with the SPD. Anton Drexler was a member of the right-wing volkisch Vaterlandspartei, Karl Harrer was a member of the esoteric racialist-mystic Thule Society, Paul Tafel was a member of the ultranationalist Pan-German League and the Thule Society, and so on. I’m not aware of a single founding member who was at all affiliated with the SPD. The origins of the DAP were in German ultranationalism and racial mysticism, not socialism or social democracy.

    And of course the socialist aspects of their ideology were dropped in order to cut the deals with those who financed their rise to power.

    Big capital didn’t “finance” the NSDAP’s “rise to power”, but Hitler certainly did seek their support and, once he was in power, big business got along swimmingly with Nazi regime, as unions were crushed, and profits and the share of the national income going to capital shot through the roof. And yes, the “socialists” (and they weren’t really socialists, either) either left the party (Otto Strasser), or were murdered (Gregor Strasser, Ernst Röhm, etc.).

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  • @KenH

    They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, ‘bright, clean, and articulate’, i.e., assimilated to white norms.
     
    During Obama's first campaign white voters perceived him as a "good" black person and someone who was above the race baiting of Al Sharpton and his ilk and who would govern in good faith. They badly miscalculated as once Obama assumed office the mask dropped. The speech and demeanor Obama adopted during the campaign was calculated to disarm whites and it worked to perfection. He and his campaign knew that he would carry almost the entire black vote and a supermajority of Latinos.

    I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.
     
    Whites tend to be the least race realist/race conscious as evidenced by their voting patterns (they vote for non-whites in greater percentages than the reverse). They do have a race conscious but it's shallow in comparison to every other racial group and they have a religious faith in assimilation. Most whites still don't realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.

    Most whites still don’t realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.

    But there are irreconcilable political differences between whites. Liberals might as well be a different species.

    And there are irreconcilable political differences between the globalist elites (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be) and everyone else (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be).

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    But there are irreconcilable political differences between whites. Liberals might as well be a different species.
     
    Hard to disagree with that statement, but it's mostly due to the brainwashing whites receive when they go to college and sometimes even before. Several of my previously normal high school friends became bat shit insane liberals once they went to college. One guy I knew was fond of saying the dreaded "n" word but when I saw him his junior year in college he had turned into a total anti-racist and must have called me a racist at least 15 times (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not) over the course of the two hours we spent together.

    And there are irreconcilable political differences between the globalist elites (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be) and everyone else (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be).
     
    Sounds like the Alex Jones narrative whereby the "globalist elites" and "illuminati" are opposed by a rag tag band of rainbow populists. Trump ran on a populist, anti-globalist platform and 80% of the votes he received came from whites. The "global elite" now speak derisively of populism and use it in a pejorative manner to mean racist, intolerant white people who are resisting attempts to turn their nations into global plantations and third world dung heaps via mass immigration.
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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Joshua

    The WIIFM Party (What’s In It For Me Party).
     
    The HIHAP (How It Helps America's People) Party.

    I don’t think HIHAP is accurate; Many more oppose Obamacare, than, say, the F-35 program.

    Why?

    Obamacare helps too many “wrong” kind of people; F-35 program helps mostly “right” kind of people.

    Trump wants to start a nuke modernization program. It is estimated to be $1T over lifetime. Watch carefully, it will get considerable support. It will attract far less opposition, than, say a High Speed Rail program.

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  • @anon
    The WIIFM Party (What's In It For Me Party).

    The WIIFM Party (What’s In It For Me Party).

    The HIHAP (How It Helps America’s People) Party.

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    I don't think HIHAP is accurate; Many more oppose Obamacare, than, say, the F-35 program.

    Why?

    Obamacare helps too many "wrong" kind of people; F-35 program helps mostly "right" kind of people.

    Trump wants to start a nuke modernization program. It is estimated to be $1T over lifetime. Watch carefully, it will get considerable support. It will attract far less opposition, than, say a High Speed Rail program.
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  • @Joshua

    You need to find a different name for this group, though, something with no ‘anti’ in it, let alone two. They don’t see themselves as anti-anyone-at-all.
     
    Green-Nationalists.

    The WIIFM Party (What’s In It For Me Party).

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    The WIIFM Party (What’s In It For Me Party).
     
    The HIHAP (How It Helps America's People) Party.
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  • @Demontage
    In a certain way, the liberal media have a point about Trump's appeal bearing similarity to Germany's national socialist movement of the 1930s. National socialism was a specific mix of right (private enterprise) and left (distribution of wealth for citizens). Without using the tainted label, it is a mix which has always implicitly appealed to Reagan Democrats and Trump voters.

    I am a white male Gen-Xer and lifelong Democrat, until recently. I grew up in a white working-class family in the northeast, among Reagan Democrat types who vote for Republicans locally (for lower taxes in tax-heavy blue states). Yet they voted for Obama twice. First because of their disappointment in Bush, Iraq, and the financial crisis in 2008; the second time because of their distrust of the corporate globalist shill Romney in 2012. They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, 'bright, clean, and articulate', i.e., assimilated to white norms.

    Many, if not most, American voters are not ideological. They are attracted to 'common sense' appeals, spoken in plain language. This is why they like Trump. I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.

    The name of "national socialism" is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters: They dislike elite Reublicans who want to dismantle Social Security, etc., but they also dislike Democrats who seek special benefits for minorities and immigrants, against the national majority interests of citizens.

    There is a wide opening for politicians like Jim Webb to expand on the Trump coalition, but with a left-of-center slant. The message needs to implicitly affirm the normativity of a white majority, with tolerance, but not special treatment, for racial minorities.

    They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, ‘bright, clean, and articulate’, i.e., assimilated to white norms.

    During Obama’s first campaign white voters perceived him as a “good” black person and someone who was above the race baiting of Al Sharpton and his ilk and who would govern in good faith. They badly miscalculated as once Obama assumed office the mask dropped. The speech and demeanor Obama adopted during the campaign was calculated to disarm whites and it worked to perfection. He and his campaign knew that he would carry almost the entire black vote and a supermajority of Latinos.

    I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.

    Whites tend to be the least race realist/race conscious as evidenced by their voting patterns (they vote for non-whites in greater percentages than the reverse). They do have a race conscious but it’s shallow in comparison to every other racial group and they have a religious faith in assimilation. Most whites still don’t realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.

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    Most whites still don’t realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.
     
    But there are irreconcilable political differences between whites. Liberals might as well be a different species.

    And there are irreconcilable political differences between the globalist elites (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be) and everyone else (regardless of what colour, race or ethnicity they happen to be).
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  • @Anonymous
    I'm a white liberal who sympathizes with most of what I read on Unz.com. So I guess I'll comment.

    You're definitely on to something here. Identifying the two groups as mostly clinton-supporters and sanders-supporters works too. I was struck plenty of times during 2016 how Sanders and Trump speeches sounded very much alike (to my ears). Yes, there is definitely potential for people in this group to gain a racial conciousness... but also for them to recruit from trump-supporter ranks; it goes both ways.

    You need to find a different name for this group, though, something with no 'anti' in it, let alone two. They don't see themselves as anti-anyone-at-all. They are actually trying to be good allies to the other liberals, just disagreeing on the best way to help them.

    You need to find a different name for this group, though, something with no ‘anti’ in it, let alone two. They don’t see themselves as anti-anyone-at-all.

    Green-Nationalists.

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  • @Demontage
    In a certain way, the liberal media have a point about Trump's appeal bearing similarity to Germany's national socialist movement of the 1930s. National socialism was a specific mix of right (private enterprise) and left (distribution of wealth for citizens). Without using the tainted label, it is a mix which has always implicitly appealed to Reagan Democrats and Trump voters.

    I am a white male Gen-Xer and lifelong Democrat, until recently. I grew up in a white working-class family in the northeast, among Reagan Democrat types who vote for Republicans locally (for lower taxes in tax-heavy blue states). Yet they voted for Obama twice. First because of their disappointment in Bush, Iraq, and the financial crisis in 2008; the second time because of their distrust of the corporate globalist shill Romney in 2012. They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, 'bright, clean, and articulate', i.e., assimilated to white norms.

    Many, if not most, American voters are not ideological. They are attracted to 'common sense' appeals, spoken in plain language. This is why they like Trump. I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.

    The name of "national socialism" is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters: They dislike elite Reublicans who want to dismantle Social Security, etc., but they also dislike Democrats who seek special benefits for minorities and immigrants, against the national majority interests of citizens.

    There is a wide opening for politicians like Jim Webb to expand on the Trump coalition, but with a left-of-center slant. The message needs to implicitly affirm the normativity of a white majority, with tolerance, but not special treatment, for racial minorities.

    The name of “national socialism” is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters…

    True. The original DAP was formed by leftists who were disillusioned with the SPD in the aftermath of WWI and weren’t crazy about the anti-nationalist stance of the Bolsheviks. Their racial ideology came largely due to the influence of ethnic Germans from the eastern diaspora who came to Germany proper (e.g. Alfred Rosenberg) and the association of Bolshevism with Russian jews. And of course the socialist aspects of their ideology were dropped in order to cut the deals with those who financed their rise to power.

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    The original DAP was formed by leftists who were disillusioned with the SPD in the aftermath of WWI and weren’t crazy about the anti-nationalist stance of the Bolsheviks.
     
    That's just false. The founders of the DAP weren't former members of the SPD or in any way associated with the SPD. Anton Drexler was a member of the right-wing volkisch Vaterlandspartei, Karl Harrer was a member of the esoteric racialist-mystic Thule Society, Paul Tafel was a member of the ultranationalist Pan-German League and the Thule Society, and so on. I'm not aware of a single founding member who was at all affiliated with the SPD. The origins of the DAP were in German ultranationalism and racial mysticism, not socialism or social democracy.

    And of course the socialist aspects of their ideology were dropped in order to cut the deals with those who financed their rise to power.
     
    Big capital didn't "finance" the NSDAP's "rise to power", but Hitler certainly did seek their support and, once he was in power, big business got along swimmingly with Nazi regime, as unions were crushed, and profits and the share of the national income going to capital shot through the roof. And yes, the "socialists" (and they weren't really socialists, either) either left the party (Otto Strasser), or were murdered (Gregor Strasser, Ernst Röhm, etc.).
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  • “The message needs to implicitly affirm the normativity of a white majority”.

    Hilarious!

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  • In a certain way, the liberal media have a point about Trump’s appeal bearing similarity to Germany’s national socialist movement of the 1930s. National socialism was a specific mix of right (private enterprise) and left (distribution of wealth for citizens). Without using the tainted label, it is a mix which has always implicitly appealed to Reagan Democrats and Trump voters.

    I am a white male Gen-Xer and lifelong Democrat, until recently. I grew up in a white working-class family in the northeast, among Reagan Democrat types who vote for Republicans locally (for lower taxes in tax-heavy blue states). Yet they voted for Obama twice. First because of their disappointment in Bush, Iraq, and the financial crisis in 2008; the second time because of their distrust of the corporate globalist shill Romney in 2012. They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, ‘bright, clean, and articulate’, i.e., assimilated to white norms.

    Many, if not most, American voters are not ideological. They are attracted to ‘common sense’ appeals, spoken in plain language. This is why they like Trump. I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.

    The name of “national socialism” is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters: They dislike elite Reublicans who want to dismantle Social Security, etc., but they also dislike Democrats who seek special benefits for minorities and immigrants, against the national majority interests of citizens.

    There is a wide opening for politicians like Jim Webb to expand on the Trump coalition, but with a left-of-center slant. The message needs to implicitly affirm the normativity of a white majority, with tolerance, but not special treatment, for racial minorities.

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    The name of “national socialism” is unfortunately tainted by the Nazi era, but in fact, the basic theory explains much of the instincts of these voters...
     
    True. The original DAP was formed by leftists who were disillusioned with the SPD in the aftermath of WWI and weren't crazy about the anti-nationalist stance of the Bolsheviks. Their racial ideology came largely due to the influence of ethnic Germans from the eastern diaspora who came to Germany proper (e.g. Alfred Rosenberg) and the association of Bolshevism with Russian jews. And of course the socialist aspects of their ideology were dropped in order to cut the deals with those who financed their rise to power.
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    They also liked Obama for appearing, as Joe Biden famously noted, ‘bright, clean, and articulate’, i.e., assimilated to white norms.
     
    During Obama's first campaign white voters perceived him as a "good" black person and someone who was above the race baiting of Al Sharpton and his ilk and who would govern in good faith. They badly miscalculated as once Obama assumed office the mask dropped. The speech and demeanor Obama adopted during the campaign was calculated to disarm whites and it worked to perfection. He and his campaign knew that he would carry almost the entire black vote and a supermajority of Latinos.

    I believe they are also generally race realists, not by studying statistics or evolution, but by simple, direct observation of behavior in their localities and local news.
     
    Whites tend to be the least race realist/race conscious as evidenced by their voting patterns (they vote for non-whites in greater percentages than the reverse). They do have a race conscious but it's shallow in comparison to every other racial group and they have a religious faith in assimilation. Most whites still don't realize that racial differences in intelligence, temperament and worldview make for the irreconcilable political differences that are now front and center in American life.
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