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    (The following is based on a speech presented by Carl Horowitz at the most recent annual meeting of the H.L. Mencken Club, Baltimore, Maryland, November 3-4, 2017. It was orginally posted at NLPC.org ) Why are corporations, especially those that provide information technology, promoting radical politics? It’s a question one increasingly hears these days. And...
  • A lot of good information here but the analysis is weak. I would say there are four logical possibilities in political space. 1. Firm boundaries, solidaristic (the tribe or classic nation state) 2. Firm boundaries, hierarchical ( reactionary fantasy). 3. Porous boundaries, hierarchical ( empire, our current multi culti, neoliberal globalism). 4. Porous boundaries, solidaristic ( utopian fantasy).

    The author is using silly left-right language to describe how worlds 3 and 4 join forces, as they always have in history. He also wrongly ascribes diversity, etc to academic books, rather than ascribing agency to global capital which us the prime mover in all this.

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  • Means-tested social programs that “dis-incentivize” wage-paying work that’s expected to lift people out of the poverty that led them to means-tested programs in the first place? Corporate subsidies and tax incentives to shut down operations and relocate?

    I am assuming you are talking about welfare. Well , welfare is about wealth transfer from the middle class, you can also say wealth transfer from White America and at the same time it buys entire groups (blacks, hispanics) who can be made to vote in a particular way. Welfare also does a good job of destroying the family as women now do not need men, they are married to the state and thus low IQ women will progressively choose dumb thug men. This destroys the family structure and thus the population at the same time lowers IQ (idiocracy). A car side through a black ghetto will make this obviously clear. A portion of the native White working class population of Britain is going through the same destructive process but their situation is still not bad as US blacks.

    Relocation of industries is now doing the work of destroying the working class and lately even the American middle class. These globalists work in ways by which every action they take, they attain multiple objectives at the same time.

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  • @biz

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

    Is it okay if I get my boring anti-Israel agitprop about the history of the October Revolution being a Jewish coup d’etat straight from the Jerusalem Post?

    “I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish
    Jerusalem Post
    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150

    ✡ Shalom, comrade. ☭

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  • @Malla
    Thanks bud!

    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker’s paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.
     
    And also the fact that unlike today's globalists, who are combining the worst aspects of crony Capitalism with the worst of Communism so as too screw the masses to the benefit of the elites, the National Socialists of Germany did the mirror opposite. The National Socialists of Germany (and maybe up to a lesser extent the Fascists in Italy) had combined the best aspects of socialism with the best aspects of free market economics to get the best deal for the masses. That is because, they really cared for their masses unlike the globalist elites of today.

    Malla, I’ve sometimes referred to our governance by America’s Council of 25,000 (our lobbies) as Fascism Lite, a bit of Mussolini, but without a human touch. I agree that Hitler and Mussolini both believed that national vitality meant a revitalized people, from street sweepers to corporate execs.

    Here, I’m not sure what our policy makers believe. Means-tested social programs that “dis-incentivize” wage-paying work that’s expected to lift people out of the poverty that led them to means-tested programs in the first place? Corporate subsidies and tax incentives to shut down operations and relocate?

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  • @jacques sheete
    I'm glad you're commenting.

    This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it’s earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population.
     
    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker's paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.

    Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together.
     
    True. Each supports and benefits from the other.

    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.
     
    Bingo. It goes for all the "threats" they identify for us. It also explains why the "threats" never go away, and why they keep adding new ones.The ruling classes are the biggest threats to the rest of us.

    Thanks bud!

    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker’s paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.

    And also the fact that unlike today’s globalists, who are combining the worst aspects of crony Capitalism with the worst of Communism so as too screw the masses to the benefit of the elites, the National Socialists of Germany did the mirror opposite. The National Socialists of Germany (and maybe up to a lesser extent the Fascists in Italy) had combined the best aspects of socialism with the best aspects of free market economics to get the best deal for the masses. That is because, they really cared for their masses unlike the globalist elites of today.

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    Malla, I've sometimes referred to our governance by America's Council of 25,000 (our lobbies) as Fascism Lite, a bit of Mussolini, but without a human touch. I agree that Hitler and Mussolini both believed that national vitality meant a revitalized people, from street sweepers to corporate execs.

    Here, I'm not sure what our policy makers believe. Means-tested social programs that "dis-incentivize" wage-paying work that's expected to lift people out of the poverty that led them to means-tested programs in the first place? Corporate subsidies and tax incentives to shut down operations and relocate?
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  • @biz

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

    This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    Since you’re playing fast and loose with numbers and concepts, explain this as a “successful” genocide.:

    Jewish Population of the World:

    1945 11,000,000

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

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  • @biz

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

    This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    Oh, get over it. For one thing it isn’t over yet. In fact it’s ongoing and super sadistic as well as totally unnecessary.

    Do you even know the meaning of the word, “genocide,” or are you using one that’s convenient for you, or what?

    “Perhaps if we don’t give them enough water they won’t have a choice, because the orchards will yellow and wither.”

    That is what Israeli Prime Minster Levi Eshkol said in 1967 about Gaza, as revealed in newly declassified documents from the time. Ofer Aderet of Haaretz reported about this today.

    As is widely known, the standard UN definition of Genocide includes “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.

    These newly declassified documents reveal that the genocidal policy was indeed there already in 1967. This is important, because it sheds light on later policies, such as Israel’s siege of Gaza, which is part of an ‘incremental genocide,’ as historian Ilan Pappe has been calling it since 2006, and it puts the notion of a “huge concentration camp”, the term Haaretz journalist Amira Hass has used for Gaza, in historical perspective.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/11/liberal-contemplating-genocide/

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  • @Malla
    I have always considered Capitalism and Communism as false oppositions to each other. People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims. The future of the world is moving towards Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses. This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it's earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population. The same with China recently. Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together. This also explains why big corporations still hire their workforce from Western Universities which are hot beds of leftist propaganda. On one level, it never makes any sense. But when you see the bigger picture, it makes sense.
    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.

    Cultural Marxism (probably) emerged much later then economic Marxism of Karl Marx. It was a solution to a pressing problem of why Western populations were resistant to Communism. The problem was narrowed down to traditional Western civilization, the White race and to some extent traditional Christianity. Cultural Marxism is a 'slow boil the frog' method unlike the shock method unleashed on Russia and China. It also uses the tactic of communists and communism infusing in every part of a country's institutions like blood capillaries around muscles.

    I’m glad you’re commenting.

    This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it’s earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population.

    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker’s paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.

    Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together.

    True. Each supports and benefits from the other.

    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.

    Bingo. It goes for all the “threats” they identify for us. It also explains why the “threats” never go away, and why they keep adding new ones.The ruling classes are the biggest threats to the rest of us.

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    Thanks bud!

    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker’s paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.
     
    And also the fact that unlike today's globalists, who are combining the worst aspects of crony Capitalism with the worst of Communism so as too screw the masses to the benefit of the elites, the National Socialists of Germany did the mirror opposite. The National Socialists of Germany (and maybe up to a lesser extent the Fascists in Italy) had combined the best aspects of socialism with the best aspects of free market economics to get the best deal for the masses. That is because, they really cared for their masses unlike the globalist elites of today.
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  • @Malla
    I have always considered Capitalism and Communism as false oppositions to each other. People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims. The future of the world is moving towards Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses. This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it's earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population. The same with China recently. Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together. This also explains why big corporations still hire their workforce from Western Universities which are hot beds of leftist propaganda. On one level, it never makes any sense. But when you see the bigger picture, it makes sense.
    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.

    Cultural Marxism (probably) emerged much later then economic Marxism of Karl Marx. It was a solution to a pressing problem of why Western populations were resistant to Communism. The problem was narrowed down to traditional Western civilization, the White race and to some extent traditional Christianity. Cultural Marxism is a 'slow boil the frog' method unlike the shock method unleashed on Russia and China. It also uses the tactic of communists and communism infusing in every part of a country's institutions like blood capillaries around muscles.

    People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims.

    You nailed it. They use whatever works for them at the time and they are not beyond flip flopping repeatedly. Opportunistic parasites, all of them.

    Anyone who thinks differently is entirely deluded.

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  • @Michael Kenny
    I was born in Europe. Except for a few years in the 1960s, I have lived all my life in Europe. I have never come across anybody in Europe “rejecting their identity”. Quite the contrary indeed! European national identities are alive and well, and thriving in the European Union. The article itself is the usual VDare anti-EU propaganda and the article linked to (by Pat Buchanan) doesn’t support the author’s argument. I don’t really see why Americans are getting so steamed up about Marxism. Nobody has taken Marxism seriously since the collapse of the communist dictatorships 25 years ago. And, of course, I’m always amused at the way the people who shout “America First” keep telling us Europeans how to run our countries!

    Michael get your self a copy of the book titled The Milner Fabian Conspiracy by Ioan Ratiu.
    You can goolag it first but its worth a read for all Europeans.

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  • @Priss Factor
    This article is a good primer on what is wrong with World Affairs.

    https://altright.com/2017/11/21/my-fellow-jews-we-need-to-talk/

    To talk of 'left' and 'right' misses the point. What we have is less dialectics of left and right as the 'trialectics' of 'left' and 'right' both being manipulated by a third force that chooses to remain invisible. And this power is essentially though not entirely Jewish.

    Consider the trajectory of mainstream politics in America over several past decades. It wasn't a true right vs left struggle but Jews owning and using both to serve the Third Power that was Zionist-Globalist. Rahm Emanuel claims to be 'leftist' but he served in the IDF to enforce Zionist control over Palestinians. David Brooks excoriates Trumpian nationalism but he sent his son to serve in IDF to be just like Rahm Emanuel. Those who cling to real power know tribal blood counts more than ideological ink.

    After all, both Liberal Elites and Neo-Conservatives have been totally pro-Israel and favored Jews over Palestinians. Why such pro-nationalist Zionist zeal on Middle East issues? And why does just about every Congressman sign the AIPAC pledge to Israel? If nationalism and ethno-centricism are 'rightist' and if ALL GLOBALIST ELITES are 'leftist'(anti-nationalist), then why are most elites in business so pro-Israel? Why don't they denounce the tribal influence of AIPAC? Where do you see elites in Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Big Oil siding with helpless Palestinians against powerful ethno-nationalist and imperialist Zionists? And if Google and Twitter are really into equality and for the underdog, why did they get ADL to monitor 'hatred'? ADL is a totally pro-Zionist organization that supports defaming whites and supports Israeli occupation of West Bank. It also never mentions Nakba or that Israel was created by massive ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. It never criticizes the Zionist-controlled US Wars for Israel on the Muslim World that hatefully destroyed millions of lives.
    If Google and Twitter are truly 'leftist', shouldn't they hire BDS to monitor Zionist supremacist hatred and chauvinism? Shouldn't Paypal and such services deny service to ADL or any such group that supports the ongoing Zionist Occupation of West Bank? Shouldn't Paypal and other such services deny services to members of CIA and Pentagon who've been engaged in murderous US neo-imperialism that destroyed many nations and peoples with bombs, invasions, aid to terrorists(especially in Syria), and sanctions?

    This is a curious kind of 'leftism' that is so jingoist(US is an exceptional nation), 'racist'(Zionists uber Palestinians and Jews uber gentiles), supremacist(black men deserve to colonize white wombs since white men are inferior cuck dorks), and replacist-genocidal(white people should lose their own homelands to waves of foreign colonizers), and of course, totally hypocritical. Diversity via coercive inclusion and demographic imperialism for every nation EXCEPT Israel that, despite its closed walls and Jewish-Only policy, is showered with $4 billion a year and is allowed to spy on and operate in America as a 'patriotic' lobby when it's all about pushing the Jewish supremacist agenda.

    So, it's not about dialectics of left and right. It's about the 'trialectics' of Jewish globalist supremacists controlling and manipulating 'left' and 'right' to serve their own interests. If indeed these corporations are really into 'leftism', why do they go along with the anti-BDS program? Jewish oligarchs and their agents are using money and threats to force all US states and all politicians to violate freedom of speech by criminalizing BDS. Imagine white ultra-rightists in the US in the 80s using their influence to criminalize any boycott or sanction of South Africa that then practiced Apartheid. The Left would have blown a fuse and gone crazy. But there seems to be mostly silence about the criminalization of BDS. There are some murmurs and complaints in some corners of the Left, but there is no mass concerted effort to call attention to this as a violation of First Amendment and Moral action.
    So, we live in a nation where cities can ban Chick Fil-A for supporting Real Marriage, but companies and individuals will be destroyed if they even think of boycotting Zionist Occupation of West Bank and its apartheid policies.

    So much for 'leftism'.

    American Power can be boiled down to Jewish Supremacism and White Cuck Collaborators. And Asian sychophants and token blacks. But all the decisions are made by Jews and their favorite proxies, the homos. Asians may increasingly hold higher positions, but they have no agency or will. They just follow the White Cuck-collaborators who obey Jews and homos. That is the hierarchy of US power, and it masquerades as 'leftist' to mask the ethno-monopoly and ethno-supremacism of Jewish globalists.

    The fact is Jews can destroy anyone with their control of high tech, Wall Street, and media. Via high-tech, they can rig who is platformed and who is deplatformed. Through Wall Street, they can decide who is funded and who is de-funded. Through media, they can decide who is anointed and who is excommunicated. Just by having ADL or SPLC smear an individual or company as 'racist', 'antisemitic', or 'homophobic', the Power can bring down anyone. Those are the talismanic words with the power to make or break careers.

    If US corporations are truly leftist, why didn't they denounce US imperialism in the Middle East? Starbucks cares about those Muslim refugees? Why didn't its Jewish owners denounce Obama and Hillary for reducing Muslims into refugees with destruction of Libya and by aiding terrorists in Syria? Surely, the Starbuck guys are smart and well-informed. They must know what really happened in the Middle East and North Africa. So, why do they define their 'progressivism' in terms of 'caring about Muslim refugees' instead of denouncing US imperialism that reduced Muslims to refugee status? They are Zionists, and they support the ethno-supremacist policy of pushing Wars for Israel and globalist bankers.

    And that Campbell Soup bitch is really appalled by 'murder' and 'racism'? There was only one evil side at Charlottesville? But what murder? The fat whore Heather died of a heart-attack, and James Fields panicked after being attacked. Also, BLM is a hate-filled black movement. And what does Campbell Soup have to say about Zionist occupation of West Bank or Zionist-supremacist Wars for Israel that murdered 100,000s of people in the Middle East? Or, Clinton's sanctions on Iraq that killed many children?
    She is just a lowlife skank whore. She may be sincere in spouting such BS since she prolly attended some elite college with PC indoctrination, but even that isn't the real reason. After all, if she is really really anti-nationalist and 'anti-racist', her policy should be to cut all ties between Campbell and Israel that still illegally occupies West Bank. The reason why she condemned the white patriots at Charlottesville is because White Emancipation and White National Liberation means whites no longer serving Jewish ethno-supremacist globalist imperialism. She is a white-whore-cuck shill who serves Jewish supremacism by smearing white liberation as 'white supremacism'. In fact, it is Alt Right that is anti-imperialist by being anti-war and by supporting the national rights of all nations. Globalists corrupt nationalist sentiments all over the world by opening the West to the Rest. Tempted by easier material life in the West, formerly nationalist non-whites abandon their own nations and come to the West to become 'Americans', 'Canadians', or 'Englishmen'. Thus, Jews kill two birds with one stone. White national sovereignty is destroyed but so is that of non-whites who, instead of guarding and building their own nations, just want to run off to white nations for better material lives. They become Puerto-Ricanized. Puerto Ricans lost all sense of national pride and independence because they got hooked to the drug of US largess. Their only 'identity' is bitching for more benefits and freebies. Since begging is humiliating, Puertos now do their begging in the form of demands. It's like a dog barking loud to hide its shame that it depends on the master for food.

    AirBnb is owned by Zionists imperialists, and that explains it.

    If leftism is about equality and diversity in power/influence, why doesn't anyone in these firms complain that Jews are vastly over-represented in the upper echelons of power, wealth, and connectedness? What happened to Disparate Impact? If these elites really care about diversity and fair representation, then their main focus of denunciation should be that Jews, who are only 2% of US population, have near-monopoly or outright monopoly in so many sectors of US economy and power. I mean Google and Facebook are owned by Jews, and they are tied closely with Wall Street that is owned by Jews and collude with Media owned by Jews. And they fund operations like SPLC and ADL to lend moral sheen to Jewish supremacism. Both organizations push Jewish/Zionist interests in the name of fighting 'hate'. The mere desire NOT to serve Jewish supremacism is 'hate'. And they operate with Deep State that takes orders from Jews. And even GOP cuck-Congressmen are funded by the likes of Sheldon Adelson,

    Dialectics of left and right? That's BS. It is really about the 'Trialectics' of Jewish Power as the Third Force manipulating bogus 'left' and bogus 'right' to make both serve Jewish supremacism.
    Therefore, class politics is dead on the left. The new left is all about decadent crap about 50 genders and 'inclusion'. Jews want gentile diversity because it means disunity among gentiles. Also, homomania as 'leftism' is a huge boon to the rich since homos are vain and cater to the rich.
    And the new right since the Neocon takeover of GOP has been all about lowering tax rates for the rich and praising Israel, Israel, and Israel while reviling any sign of white consciousness.

    Dialectics of left and right? That’s BS. It is really about the ‘Trialectics’ of Jewish Power as the Third Force manipulating bogus ‘left’ and bogus ‘right’ to make both serve Jewish supremacism.

    Finally you are seeing it.

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  • @Seamus Padraig
    This is an OK article in some respects, but I spotted one glaring contradiction. Early on, the author/speaker points out that multinational corporations promote 'diversity' in order to weaken national identities, precisely because increasing immigration and off-shoring while decreasing tariffs is good for their bottom line:

    The two factions differ by motive. Businessmen act out of material self-interest. They want to hire people from abroad at much lower wages and benefits than most people here would accept.
     
    As far as it goes, this statement is correct and quite perceptive. The multinats have absolutely nothing against Marxism, so long as it is cultural Marxism rather than economic Marxism. But then, towards the end of the article/speech, comes a total non-sequitor:

    Corporations are not parties, philanthropies or think tanks. Yet by taking on such roles, they are working against their own interests and those of their nations.
     
    Well, which is it? Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused.

    A few other minor points:

    The goal here is monopoly. But it is more than simply a monopoly over a particular market. It is a monopoly over public opinion.
     
    Ultimately, they want a monopoly over the whole world.

    Mind you, they haven’t given up on class struggle.
     
    Yes they have. The ruling class won. Now they will go about creating fake 'identities' (like LGBTXYZ) and playing them off against one another in order to keep the lower classes busy.

    The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. Urtexts include Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth ...
     
    Fannon was actually not from the US.

    The outsized role of Google in the Obama administration should dispel any illusions about corporate radicalism being “libertarian.”
     
    Why shouldn't Goolag report to the government? After all, they were effectively founded by the CIA: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’
     

    ”Corporations are not parties, philanthropies or think tanks. Yet by taking on such roles, they are working against their own interests and those of their nations.”>>>>>

    There is a reason cannibals are extinct. They ate all their neighbors and so eventually lost their food source.

    People who run corporation aren’t necessarily smart. They go for short term growth and profit and stock price increases thinking they will always come up with new and more plans to keep it going.
    A complaint classless consumer base works for awhile but they depend on that consumer base–the population– growing also. The bigger the consumer base the more demand. But that consumer base must have money/jobs to purchase their products. More demand does not necessarily translate into bigger profits as it means more production and cost which they try to over come with price increases. With out a corresponding increase in/money/job wages in the consumer base they hit the ‘diminishing returns’ plateau.

    In short they ate their customer base.

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  • @biz

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

    ”How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950,

    I am no longer amazed at the ignorance and stupidity of the Israel supporters. ‘Real’ history is the greatest enemy of the Jews.

    First Census of Palestine
    J. B. Barron, ed. (1923). Palestine: Report and General Abstracts of the Census of 1922. Government of Palestine. http://www.klinebooks.com/cgi-bin/kline/35716.html

    The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922. The division into religious groups was:

    590,390 Muslims
    83,694 Jews
    73,024 Christians,
    7,028 Druze
    808 Sikhs
    265 Bahais
    156 Metawalis
    163 Samaritans.

    Second census of Palestine
    E.Mills, British Mandate Census of Palestine 1931, Population of villages, towns and administrative areas”
    Official report on the 1931 Census of Palestine, which was the second census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine. It was carried out on 18 November 1931 under the direction of Major E. Mills. The first census had been conducted in 1922. Following the 1931 census, no further census was conducted in Palestine by the British administration.
    The total population reported was 1,035,821 (1,033,314 excluding the numbers of H.M. Forces) – an increase of 36.8% since 1922, of which the Jewish population increased by 108.4% due to Jewish immigration into Palestine while less than 3% of Muslims were born outside of Palestine.

    The population was divided by religion as follows:
    759,717 Muslims,
    174,610 Jews,
    91,398 Christians,
    9,148 Druzes,
    350 Bahais,
    182 Samaritans,
    and 421 “no religion”.

    A special problem was posed by the nomadic Bedouin of the south, who were reluctant to cooperate. Estimates of each tribe were made by officers of the district administration according to local observation. The total of 759,717 Muslims included 66,553 persons enumerated by this method.

    (Other Surveys)

    # According to a Survey of Palestine prepared in December 1945 there were :

    1,076,780 Muslims (58% of the total population),
    608,230 Jews (33%),
    145,060 Christians (9%). (4)

    # In the mid-19th century, the area corresponding to Palestine had about 340,000 people, of whom 300,000 or 88 per cent were Muslims or Druze, 27,000 of 8 per cent Christian, and 13,000 or 4 per cent Jews.

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  • @Malla
    I have always considered Capitalism and Communism as false oppositions to each other. People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims. The future of the world is moving towards Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses. This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it's earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population. The same with China recently. Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together. This also explains why big corporations still hire their workforce from Western Universities which are hot beds of leftist propaganda. On one level, it never makes any sense. But when you see the bigger picture, it makes sense.
    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.

    Cultural Marxism (probably) emerged much later then economic Marxism of Karl Marx. It was a solution to a pressing problem of why Western populations were resistant to Communism. The problem was narrowed down to traditional Western civilization, the White race and to some extent traditional Christianity. Cultural Marxism is a 'slow boil the frog' method unlike the shock method unleashed on Russia and China. It also uses the tactic of communists and communism infusing in every part of a country's institutions like blood capillaries around muscles.

    ” Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses.”

    Exactly.

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  • @Beckow

    "Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused."
     
    Horowitz is confused because he is trying to square a circle: protect a nation state and culture, and yet try to defend corporations as the best way to run the economy. He is looking to bring back the golden 'corporate era', let's say WWII to late 90's. The problem is that the internal logic of corporate business is to seek the lowest possible labor - that cannot be changed. Once it became possible with new technologies the 'loyal' corporation era had to end. So Horowitz is confused, interesting to listen to, but ultimately not able to have a coherent picture of reality.

    And that's the way the Goolagists like it. We are more screwed than ever before. The best strategy is to find a quiet place that is not fully 'globalized' yet, and wait it out.

    Ooops! I meant to hit the ‘Agree’ button. Sorry for the error.

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  • @Anon
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing “genocide?” This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    Zero in 1940? Wasn't that part of the world designated as Palestine when Brits took over after WWI?

    It's true that Zionists didn't wipe out Palestinians like Nazis killed many Jews.

    But suppose a different group did to Jews in Israel what Jews did to Palestinians.
    Suppose Iranians emigrate to Israel in huge numbers without the approval of Jews in Israel. Suppose Iranians in Israel call on UN to divide Israel in half and declare half as New Iran. Suppose Jews rise up and wage war, and suppose 'New Iranians' win and drive out most Jews from the remaining Israel. Suppose Jews are pushed into a corner of the nation and made to live under Occupation.

    It would clearly not be genocide in the Nazi or Khmer Rouge sense.
    But wouldn't Jews around the world call it 'genocide' on account that Jewish nationhood, Jewish culture, and Jewish identity have been violated and smashed?

    said:
    “It’s true that Zionists didn’t wipe out Palestinians like Nazis killed many Jews. ”

    No proof, Zionist rubbish.

    http://www.codoh.com

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted.

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  • @Seamus Padraig
    This is an OK article in some respects, but I spotted one glaring contradiction. Early on, the author/speaker points out that multinational corporations promote 'diversity' in order to weaken national identities, precisely because increasing immigration and off-shoring while decreasing tariffs is good for their bottom line:

    The two factions differ by motive. Businessmen act out of material self-interest. They want to hire people from abroad at much lower wages and benefits than most people here would accept.
     
    As far as it goes, this statement is correct and quite perceptive. The multinats have absolutely nothing against Marxism, so long as it is cultural Marxism rather than economic Marxism. But then, towards the end of the article/speech, comes a total non-sequitor:

    Corporations are not parties, philanthropies or think tanks. Yet by taking on such roles, they are working against their own interests and those of their nations.
     
    Well, which is it? Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused.

    A few other minor points:

    The goal here is monopoly. But it is more than simply a monopoly over a particular market. It is a monopoly over public opinion.
     
    Ultimately, they want a monopoly over the whole world.

    Mind you, they haven’t given up on class struggle.
     
    Yes they have. The ruling class won. Now they will go about creating fake 'identities' (like LGBTXYZ) and playing them off against one another in order to keep the lower classes busy.

    The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. Urtexts include Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth ...
     
    Fannon was actually not from the US.

    The outsized role of Google in the Obama administration should dispel any illusions about corporate radicalism being “libertarian.”
     
    Why shouldn't Goolag report to the government? After all, they were effectively founded by the CIA: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’
     

    “Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused.”

    Horowitz is confused because he is trying to square a circle: protect a nation state and culture, and yet try to defend corporations as the best way to run the economy. He is looking to bring back the golden ‘corporate era’, let’s say WWII to late 90′s. The problem is that the internal logic of corporate business is to seek the lowest possible labor – that cannot be changed. Once it became possible with new technologies the ‘loyal’ corporation era had to end. So Horowitz is confused, interesting to listen to, but ultimately not able to have a coherent picture of reality.

    And that’s the way the Goolagists like it. We are more screwed than ever before. The best strategy is to find a quiet place that is not fully ‘globalized’ yet, and wait it out.

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  • This article is a good primer on what is wrong with World Affairs.

    https://altright.com/2017/11/21/my-fellow-jews-we-need-to-talk/

    To talk of ‘left’ and ‘right’ misses the point. What we have is less dialectics of left and right as the ‘trialectics’ of ‘left’ and ‘right’ both being manipulated by a third force that chooses to remain invisible. And this power is essentially though not entirely Jewish.

    Consider the trajectory of mainstream politics in America over several past decades. It wasn’t a true right vs left struggle but Jews owning and using both to serve the Third Power that was Zionist-Globalist. Rahm Emanuel claims to be ‘leftist’ but he served in the IDF to enforce Zionist control over Palestinians. David Brooks excoriates Trumpian nationalism but he sent his son to serve in IDF to be just like Rahm Emanuel. Those who cling to real power know tribal blood counts more than ideological ink.

    After all, both Liberal Elites and Neo-Conservatives have been totally pro-Israel and favored Jews over Palestinians. Why such pro-nationalist Zionist zeal on Middle East issues? And why does just about every Congressman sign the AIPAC pledge to Israel? If nationalism and ethno-centricism are ‘rightist’ and if ALL GLOBALIST ELITES are ‘leftist’(anti-nationalist), then why are most elites in business so pro-Israel? Why don’t they denounce the tribal influence of AIPAC? Where do you see elites in Hollywood, Las Vegas, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Big Oil siding with helpless Palestinians against powerful ethno-nationalist and imperialist Zionists? And if Google and Twitter are really into equality and for the underdog, why did they get ADL to monitor ‘hatred’? ADL is a totally pro-Zionist organization that supports defaming whites and supports Israeli occupation of West Bank. It also never mentions Nakba or that Israel was created by massive ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. It never criticizes the Zionist-controlled US Wars for Israel on the Muslim World that hatefully destroyed millions of lives.
    If Google and Twitter are truly ‘leftist’, shouldn’t they hire BDS to monitor Zionist supremacist hatred and chauvinism? Shouldn’t Paypal and such services deny service to ADL or any such group that supports the ongoing Zionist Occupation of West Bank? Shouldn’t Paypal and other such services deny services to members of CIA and Pentagon who’ve been engaged in murderous US neo-imperialism that destroyed many nations and peoples with bombs, invasions, aid to terrorists(especially in Syria), and sanctions?

    This is a curious kind of ‘leftism’ that is so jingoist(US is an exceptional nation), ‘racist’(Zionists uber Palestinians and Jews uber gentiles), supremacist(black men deserve to colonize white wombs since white men are inferior cuck dorks), and replacist-genocidal(white people should lose their own homelands to waves of foreign colonizers), and of course, totally hypocritical. Diversity via coercive inclusion and demographic imperialism for every nation EXCEPT Israel that, despite its closed walls and Jewish-Only policy, is showered with $4 billion a year and is allowed to spy on and operate in America as a ‘patriotic’ lobby when it’s all about pushing the Jewish supremacist agenda.

    So, it’s not about dialectics of left and right. It’s about the ‘trialectics’ of Jewish globalist supremacists controlling and manipulating ‘left’ and ‘right’ to serve their own interests. If indeed these corporations are really into ‘leftism’, why do they go along with the anti-BDS program? Jewish oligarchs and their agents are using money and threats to force all US states and all politicians to violate freedom of speech by criminalizing BDS. Imagine white ultra-rightists in the US in the 80s using their influence to criminalize any boycott or sanction of South Africa that then practiced Apartheid. The Left would have blown a fuse and gone crazy. But there seems to be mostly silence about the criminalization of BDS. There are some murmurs and complaints in some corners of the Left, but there is no mass concerted effort to call attention to this as a violation of First Amendment and Moral action.
    So, we live in a nation where cities can ban Chick Fil-A for supporting Real Marriage, but companies and individuals will be destroyed if they even think of boycotting Zionist Occupation of West Bank and its apartheid policies.

    So much for ‘leftism’.

    American Power can be boiled down to Jewish Supremacism and White Cuck Collaborators. And Asian sychophants and token blacks. But all the decisions are made by Jews and their favorite proxies, the homos. Asians may increasingly hold higher positions, but they have no agency or will. They just follow the White Cuck-collaborators who obey Jews and homos. That is the hierarchy of US power, and it masquerades as ‘leftist’ to mask the ethno-monopoly and ethno-supremacism of Jewish globalists.

    The fact is Jews can destroy anyone with their control of high tech, Wall Street, and media. Via high-tech, they can rig who is platformed and who is deplatformed. Through Wall Street, they can decide who is funded and who is de-funded. Through media, they can decide who is anointed and who is excommunicated. Just by having ADL or SPLC smear an individual or company as ‘racist’, ‘antisemitic’, or ‘homophobic’, the Power can bring down anyone. Those are the talismanic words with the power to make or break careers.

    If US corporations are truly leftist, why didn’t they denounce US imperialism in the Middle East? Starbucks cares about those Muslim refugees? Why didn’t its Jewish owners denounce Obama and Hillary for reducing Muslims into refugees with destruction of Libya and by aiding terrorists in Syria? Surely, the Starbuck guys are smart and well-informed. They must know what really happened in the Middle East and North Africa. So, why do they define their ‘progressivism’ in terms of ‘caring about Muslim refugees’ instead of denouncing US imperialism that reduced Muslims to refugee status? They are Zionists, and they support the ethno-supremacist policy of pushing Wars for Israel and globalist bankers.

    And that Campbell Soup bitch is really appalled by ‘murder’ and ‘racism’? There was only one evil side at Charlottesville? But what murder? The fat whore Heather died of a heart-attack, and James Fields panicked after being attacked. Also, BLM is a hate-filled black movement. And what does Campbell Soup have to say about Zionist occupation of West Bank or Zionist-supremacist Wars for Israel that murdered 100,000s of people in the Middle East? Or, Clinton’s sanctions on Iraq that killed many children?
    She is just a lowlife skank whore. She may be sincere in spouting such BS since she prolly attended some elite college with PC indoctrination, but even that isn’t the real reason. After all, if she is really really anti-nationalist and ‘anti-racist’, her policy should be to cut all ties between Campbell and Israel that still illegally occupies West Bank. The reason why she condemned the white patriots at Charlottesville is because White Emancipation and White National Liberation means whites no longer serving Jewish ethno-supremacist globalist imperialism. She is a white-whore-cuck shill who serves Jewish supremacism by smearing white liberation as ‘white supremacism’. In fact, it is Alt Right that is anti-imperialist by being anti-war and by supporting the national rights of all nations. Globalists corrupt nationalist sentiments all over the world by opening the West to the Rest. Tempted by easier material life in the West, formerly nationalist non-whites abandon their own nations and come to the West to become ‘Americans’, ‘Canadians’, or ‘Englishmen’. Thus, Jews kill two birds with one stone. White national sovereignty is destroyed but so is that of non-whites who, instead of guarding and building their own nations, just want to run off to white nations for better material lives. They become Puerto-Ricanized. Puerto Ricans lost all sense of national pride and independence because they got hooked to the drug of US largess. Their only ‘identity’ is bitching for more benefits and freebies. Since begging is humiliating, Puertos now do their begging in the form of demands. It’s like a dog barking loud to hide its shame that it depends on the master for food.

    AirBnb is owned by Zionists imperialists, and that explains it.

    If leftism is about equality and diversity in power/influence, why doesn’t anyone in these firms complain that Jews are vastly over-represented in the upper echelons of power, wealth, and connectedness? What happened to Disparate Impact? If these elites really care about diversity and fair representation, then their main focus of denunciation should be that Jews, who are only 2% of US population, have near-monopoly or outright monopoly in so many sectors of US economy and power. I mean Google and Facebook are owned by Jews, and they are tied closely with Wall Street that is owned by Jews and collude with Media owned by Jews. And they fund operations like SPLC and ADL to lend moral sheen to Jewish supremacism. Both organizations push Jewish/Zionist interests in the name of fighting ‘hate’. The mere desire NOT to serve Jewish supremacism is ‘hate’. And they operate with Deep State that takes orders from Jews. And even GOP cuck-Congressmen are funded by the likes of Sheldon Adelson,

    Dialectics of left and right? That’s BS. It is really about the ‘Trialectics’ of Jewish Power as the Third Force manipulating bogus ‘left’ and bogus ‘right’ to make both serve Jewish supremacism.
    Therefore, class politics is dead on the left. The new left is all about decadent crap about 50 genders and ‘inclusion’. Jews want gentile diversity because it means disunity among gentiles. Also, homomania as ‘leftism’ is a huge boon to the rich since homos are vain and cater to the rich.
    And the new right since the Neocon takeover of GOP has been all about lowering tax rates for the rich and praising Israel, Israel, and Israel while reviling any sign of white consciousness.

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    Dialectics of left and right? That’s BS. It is really about the ‘Trialectics’ of Jewish Power as the Third Force manipulating bogus ‘left’ and bogus ‘right’ to make both serve Jewish supremacism.

    Finally you are seeing it.
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @biz

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing “genocide?” This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    Zero in 1940? Wasn’t that part of the world designated as Palestine when Brits took over after WWI?

    It’s true that Zionists didn’t wipe out Palestinians like Nazis killed many Jews.

    But suppose a different group did to Jews in Israel what Jews did to Palestinians.
    Suppose Iranians emigrate to Israel in huge numbers without the approval of Jews in Israel. Suppose Iranians in Israel call on UN to divide Israel in half and declare half as New Iran. Suppose Jews rise up and wage war, and suppose ‘New Iranians’ win and drive out most Jews from the remaining Israel. Suppose Jews are pushed into a corner of the nation and made to live under Occupation.

    It would clearly not be genocide in the Nazi or Khmer Rouge sense.
    But wouldn’t Jews around the world call it ‘genocide’ on account that Jewish nationhood, Jewish culture, and Jewish identity have been violated and smashed?

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    said:
    "It’s true that Zionists didn’t wipe out Palestinians like Nazis killed many Jews. "

    No proof, Zionist rubbish.

    www.codoh.com

    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted.
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  • @Michael Kenny
    I was born in Europe. Except for a few years in the 1960s, I have lived all my life in Europe. I have never come across anybody in Europe “rejecting their identity”. Quite the contrary indeed! European national identities are alive and well, and thriving in the European Union. The article itself is the usual VDare anti-EU propaganda and the article linked to (by Pat Buchanan) doesn’t support the author’s argument. I don’t really see why Americans are getting so steamed up about Marxism. Nobody has taken Marxism seriously since the collapse of the communist dictatorships 25 years ago. And, of course, I’m always amused at the way the people who shout “America First” keep telling us Europeans how to run our countries!

    Pay attention:

    “Young adults, here and elsewhere, are the prime audience. Consider the following survey data: 1) a Harvard poll last year revealed that millennial adults supported capitalism over socialism by a mere 42 percent to 33 percent; 2) a 2015 Gallup poll indicated that 70 percent of millennials would consider voting for a socialist presidential candidate; and 3) a survey released in October 2016 by the Victims of Communism Memorial found that only 55 percent of millennial respondents (born 1982-2002) believed that Communism is, or ever was, a problem (80 percent of the baby boomers and 91 percent of the elderly felt this way).”

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  • an interesting article but the conclusion that capitalism is abolishing itself is not convincing..

    The alt-right is abolishing itself, at least in the USA, what with Richard Spencer and the likes of Jack “the Ripper..Donovan.

    Without a credible alternative to socialist thinking, and the Cult of Racial Equality, the millennials start thinking socialism, mindlessly, but understandably given the economics of today with lousy wages etc.

    The European Right is doing it right while White Nationalism, USA is self-destructing. This is a disaster. The Bannon Breitbart factor will compensate, but..it would be nice to have realistic folks on the racial right get it right.

    You may have seen Spencer’s , time to party, it’s 1933. Heil Spencer.

    Here is a link to Nick Griffin’s new internet book on the craziness of WN, USA.

    http://altrightnotright.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Alt-Right-Not-Right-Online.pdf

    Nick Griffin of British National Party fame.

    Joe Webb

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  • @utu
    Mind you, they haven’t given up on class struggle.

    Really? Have you seen any class struggle recently that would be detrimental to the top class? Marxists are the tools of neoliberal capitalist world order. They are perfectly happy with the system as long as it gives them a chance to join the top class.

    “Marxists are the tools of neoliberal capitalist world order. They are perfectly happy with the system as long as it gives them a chance to join the top class.”

    This matches the actual behaviour of communist elites when they are in power. The career Marxists simply use ‘leftist’ politics with the usual combination of fake ideology and greed.

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  • @Heros

    "While the influence of the Frankfurt School of Marxism can’t be ignored here, I find it vastly overstated. The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. "
     
    Reading Horowitz is like reading gatestone institute articles. They can be very convincing, but the always miss the target because Jews are seeped in willful blindness. It starts with the dual passports and allegiances. How in any sane world should dual citizen neocons be allowed to steer foreign policy? But then it continues with the never ending kvetching about "anti-semitism" which is used to stifle any discussion that becomes uncomfortable for them, like how the October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d'etat and a succeeding genocide of millions of Christians. Why should the US be forced to pay $3b on Oct. 1 of every fiscal year to Israel? What about the murder of the Czar by a gang of Ashkenazi? Or the Liberty or the King David Hotel? What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide? What about their bullying and extortion of governments and individuals to prevent BDS?

    I could go on and on, but the point I am making is that Jews know this, but outwardly they are ignorant, at least when writing for the benefit of stupid goyim. Among themselves the truth is often alluded to in public, and that is why reading the Jewish press is so important. Eventually they will try to prevent goyim from accessing it, probably by claiming its all a lie just as with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    This jewish facade of plausible deniability has to be maintained at all costs, and this is why we always hear how jews are so persecuted, why every city is forced to have a holocaust museum and why every few years another holocaust or nazi-genocide movie comes out. It is all about jews maintaining this Potemkin lie and pretending its true.

    Which brings me to one of their biggest lies: That Jews are semitic, that they are white and that they are not white, all simultaneously. If every component of US culture was forced to track the number jews receiving benefit alongside the number of "whites" and other races, then the country would really learn what true racism and patriarchy is. That is why this is just another part of the massive jew lie that they all pretend not to see.

    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?

    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing “genocide?” This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat

    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait…

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.

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    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing “genocide?” This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    Zero in 1940? Wasn't that part of the world designated as Palestine when Brits took over after WWI?

    It's true that Zionists didn't wipe out Palestinians like Nazis killed many Jews.

    But suppose a different group did to Jews in Israel what Jews did to Palestinians.
    Suppose Iranians emigrate to Israel in huge numbers without the approval of Jews in Israel. Suppose Iranians in Israel call on UN to divide Israel in half and declare half as New Iran. Suppose Jews rise up and wage war, and suppose 'New Iranians' win and drive out most Jews from the remaining Israel. Suppose Jews are pushed into a corner of the nation and made to live under Occupation.

    It would clearly not be genocide in the Nazi or Khmer Rouge sense.
    But wouldn't Jews around the world call it 'genocide' on account that Jewish nationhood, Jewish culture, and Jewish identity have been violated and smashed?
    , @renfro

    ''How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950,
     
    I am no longer amazed at the ignorance and stupidity of the Israel supporters. 'Real' history is the greatest enemy of the Jews.


    First Census of Palestine
    J. B. Barron, ed. (1923). Palestine: Report and General Abstracts of the Census of 1922. Government of Palestine. http://www.klinebooks.com/cgi-bin/kline/35716.html

    The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922. The division into religious groups was:

    590,390 Muslims
    83,694 Jews
    73,024 Christians,
    7,028 Druze
    808 Sikhs
    265 Bahais
    156 Metawalis
    163 Samaritans.

    Second census of Palestine
    E.Mills, British Mandate Census of Palestine 1931, Population of villages, towns and administrative areas”
    Official report on the 1931 Census of Palestine, which was the second census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine. It was carried out on 18 November 1931 under the direction of Major E. Mills. The first census had been conducted in 1922. Following the 1931 census, no further census was conducted in Palestine by the British administration.
    The total population reported was 1,035,821 (1,033,314 excluding the numbers of H.M. Forces) - an increase of 36.8% since 1922, of which the Jewish population increased by 108.4% due to Jewish immigration into Palestine while less than 3% of Muslims were born outside of Palestine.

    The population was divided by religion as follows:
    759,717 Muslims,
    174,610 Jews,
    91,398 Christians,
    9,148 Druzes,
    350 Bahais,
    182 Samaritans,
    and 421 "no religion".

    A special problem was posed by the nomadic Bedouin of the south, who were reluctant to cooperate. Estimates of each tribe were made by officers of the district administration according to local observation. The total of 759,717 Muslims included 66,553 persons enumerated by this method.

    (Other Surveys)

    # According to a Survey of Palestine prepared in December 1945 there were :

    1,076,780 Muslims (58% of the total population),
    608,230 Jews (33%),
    145,060 Christians (9%). (4)

    # In the mid-19th century, the area corresponding to Palestine had about 340,000 people, of whom 300,000 or 88 per cent were Muslims or Druze, 27,000 of 8 per cent Christian, and 13,000 or 4 per cent Jews.

    , @jacques sheete

    This is the least successful genocide in world history.
     
    Oh, get over it. For one thing it isn't over yet. In fact it's ongoing and super sadistic as well as totally unnecessary.

    Do you even know the meaning of the word, "genocide," or are you using one that's convenient for you, or what?

    “Perhaps if we don’t give them enough water they won’t have a choice, because the orchards will yellow and wither.”

    That is what Israeli Prime Minster Levi Eshkol said in 1967 about Gaza, as revealed in newly declassified documents from the time. Ofer Aderet of Haaretz reported about this today.
    ...
    As is widely known, the standard UN definition of Genocide includes “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.

    These newly declassified documents reveal that the genocidal policy was indeed there already in 1967. This is important, because it sheds light on later policies, such as Israel’s siege of Gaza, which is part of an ‘incremental genocide,’ as historian Ilan Pappe has been calling it since 2006, and it puts the notion of a “huge concentration camp”, the term Haaretz journalist Amira Hass has used for Gaza, in historical perspective.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/11/liberal-contemplating-genocide/
     
    , @jacques sheete

    This is the least successful genocide in world history.

     

    Since you're playing fast and loose with numbers and concepts, explain this as a "successful" genocide.:

    Jewish Population of the World:

    1945 11,000,000
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

     

    , @Hank Rearden
    Is it okay if I get my boring anti-Israel agitprop about the history of the October Revolution being a Jewish coup d’etat straight from the Jerusalem Post?

    “I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish
    Jerusalem Post
    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
     
    ✡ Shalom, comrade. ☭
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  • This is an OK article in some respects, but I spotted one glaring contradiction. Early on, the author/speaker points out that multinational corporations promote ‘diversity’ in order to weaken national identities, precisely because increasing immigration and off-shoring while decreasing tariffs is good for their bottom line:

    The two factions differ by motive. Businessmen act out of material self-interest. They want to hire people from abroad at much lower wages and benefits than most people here would accept.

    As far as it goes, this statement is correct and quite perceptive. The multinats have absolutely nothing against Marxism, so long as it is cultural Marxism rather than economic Marxism. But then, towards the end of the article/speech, comes a total non-sequitor:

    Corporations are not parties, philanthropies or think tanks. Yet by taking on such roles, they are working against their own interests and those of their nations.

    Well, which is it? Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused.

    A few other minor points:

    The goal here is monopoly. But it is more than simply a monopoly over a particular market. It is a monopoly over public opinion.

    Ultimately, they want a monopoly over the whole world.

    Mind you, they haven’t given up on class struggle.

    Yes they have. The ruling class won. Now they will go about creating fake ‘identities’ (like LGBTXYZ) and playing them off against one another in order to keep the lower classes busy.

    The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. Urtexts include Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth …

    Fannon was actually not from the US.

    The outsized role of Google in the Obama administration should dispel any illusions about corporate radicalism being “libertarian.”

    Why shouldn’t Goolag report to the government? After all, they were effectively founded by the CIA: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

    INSURGE INTELLIGENCE, a new crowd-funded investigative journalism project, breaks the exclusive story of how the United States intelligence community funded, nurtured and incubated Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through control of information. Seed-funded by the NSA and CIA, Google was merely the first among a plethora of private sector start-ups co-opted by US intelligence to retain ‘information superiority.’

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    "Are the multinats acting in their own interests, or not? I say yes. Horowitz, on the other hand, seems confused."
     
    Horowitz is confused because he is trying to square a circle: protect a nation state and culture, and yet try to defend corporations as the best way to run the economy. He is looking to bring back the golden 'corporate era', let's say WWII to late 90's. The problem is that the internal logic of corporate business is to seek the lowest possible labor - that cannot be changed. Once it became possible with new technologies the 'loyal' corporation era had to end. So Horowitz is confused, interesting to listen to, but ultimately not able to have a coherent picture of reality.

    And that's the way the Goolagists like it. We are more screwed than ever before. The best strategy is to find a quiet place that is not fully 'globalized' yet, and wait it out.
    , @renfro
    ''Corporations are not parties, philanthropies or think tanks. Yet by taking on such roles, they are working against their own interests and those of their nations.''>>>>>


    There is a reason cannibals are extinct. They ate all their neighbors and so eventually lost their food source.

    People who run corporation aren't necessarily smart. They go for short term growth and profit and stock price increases thinking they will always come up with new and more plans to keep it going.
    A complaint classless consumer base works for awhile but they depend on that consumer base--the population-- growing also. The bigger the consumer base the more demand. But that consumer base must have money/jobs to purchase their products. More demand does not necessarily translate into bigger profits as it means more production and cost which they try to over come with price increases. With out a corresponding increase in/money/job wages in the consumer base they hit the 'diminishing returns' plateau.

    In short they ate their customer base.

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  • OMG this article is all over the map.

    Companies do what is politically expedient because the people who govern them make a rational choice to decide to the bottom line – or any short-term definition thereof – as opposed to standing up to the mob.

    Period. End of story.

    Imagine you are a minimum wage employee in the neighborhood laundromat and you’re 16 and naive and you notice the kindly owner/manager pays protection money to the mob. In all other facets he is a kindly man, a good person, a good manager, a good businessperson. You wonder why he doesn’t call the police, make a report to the FBI, call on politicians, or stand up to the mob himself.

    Of course he can do any of those things. He chooses not to.

    Why does he choose not to?

    Well, duh.

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  • Mr. Horowitz makes good points, but many of us here have made similar observations along the same path to understanding the world around us. Corporations have a whatever-it-takes ethos, and if they can make money by hanging on to eternal verities, they’ll hang on to them, and if they can calculate that dumping eternal verities will serve them, they’ll do that. Happy Thanksgiving Day all, and thanks to Ron for hosting this site, and many good commenters for illuminating our America a bit..

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  • I was born in Europe. Except for a few years in the 1960s, I have lived all my life in Europe. I have never come across anybody in Europe “rejecting their identity”. Quite the contrary indeed! European national identities are alive and well, and thriving in the European Union. The article itself is the usual VDare anti-EU propaganda and the article linked to (by Pat Buchanan) doesn’t support the author’s argument. I don’t really see why Americans are getting so steamed up about Marxism. Nobody has taken Marxism seriously since the collapse of the communist dictatorships 25 years ago. And, of course, I’m always amused at the way the people who shout “America First” keep telling us Europeans how to run our countries!

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    Pay attention:

    "Young adults, here and elsewhere, are the prime audience. Consider the following survey data: 1) a Harvard poll last year revealed that millennial adults supported capitalism over socialism by a mere 42 percent to 33 percent; 2) a 2015 Gallup poll indicated that 70 percent of millennials would consider voting for a socialist presidential candidate; and 3) a survey released in October 2016 by the Victims of Communism Memorial found that only 55 percent of millennial respondents (born 1982-2002) believed that Communism is, or ever was, a problem (80 percent of the baby boomers and 91 percent of the elderly felt this way)."
    , @patsy
    Michael get your self a copy of the book titled The Milner Fabian Conspiracy by Ioan Ratiu.
    You can goolag it first but its worth a read for all Europeans.
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  • America, that shining city upon a hill (Matthew 5:14), has forsaken its own blood and soil (Luke 14.26, Matthew 19:27-30), and fully implemented the International Jew’s globalist vision (Matthew 28:19) of Communist Freaqualism (Acts 4:32, Galatians 3:28), including acceptance of rapefugees (Matthew 25:35-36), placing blacks in leadership (Acts 13:1), condemning normal male behavior (Mark 9:47), and promoting male castration (Matthew 19.11-12) in favor of a androgynous utopia (Matthew 22:30).

    John Gray once noted that liberal humanist values are a “hollowed-out version of a theistic myth,” but as I’ve shown from the Christian Holy Book , they’re actually Judeo-Christianity on sterioids.

    “The liberal belief in the free and sacred nature of each individual is a direct legacy of the traditional Christian belief in the free and eternal souls. Without recourse to eternal souls and a Creator God, it becomes embarrassingly difficult for liberals to explain what is so special about individual Sapiens…The idea that all humans are equal is a revamped version of the monotheist conviction that all souls are equal before God.” p. 231

    Yuval Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind (Harper Collins, 2015)

    Again, I’ll point out that liberal humanist Freakqualism is not a “direct legacy” of Christianity, but an intensification.

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  • While the influence of the Frankfurt School of Marxism can’t be ignored here, I find it vastly overstated. The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. Urtexts include Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth, James Baldwin’s The Fire Next Time, Malcolm X’s Autobiography and Richard Hamilton & Stokely Carmichael’s Black Power. Over the next several years, as the Black Panthers turned up the heat, Eldridge Cleaver’s Soul on Ice, Bobby Seale’s Seize the Time and Huey Newton’s Revolutionary Suicide became must-reads. Recent additions to the canon have been Derrick Bell’s Faces at the Bottom of the Well, Michelle Alexander’s The New Jim Crow, and Cornel West’ s Race Matters.,

    Arguably, none of the above books by black authors would have become influential had it not been for the intellectual framework created in the postwar period by the Frankfurt School “study,”The Authoritarian Personality:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/007815.html

    Paul Gottfried writes:
    You should read my last three books, all of which stress that The Authoritarian Personality profoundly affected American political thinking. It was essential to the postwar reconstruction of German “civic culture’ and the work was deeply admired by SM Lipset, the sponsors of Commentary, and scads of Cold War liberals. It was not necessarily viewed as the post-Marxist leftist source of moral corruption that I suggest it was in The Strange Death of Marxism. What made The Authoritarian Personality particularly insidious is that it was widely seen as a blueprint for non-totalitarian democracy both here and in Europe; and leaders in government and in universities read the book in that way. The fact that Adorno and Horkheimer (who later backed away from the implications of the work he had co-edited) were at the time Soviet sympathizers did not dampen the enthusiasm of the anti-Stalinist secularist intellectuals who tried to defend the study. Although the Jewish identity of the Frankfurt School may not have been the only factor leading to their anti-Christian, anti-fascist pseudo-science, denying its influence on the formation of Frankfort School ideas is simply silly.

    Christopher Lash’s True and Only Heaven includes a long section detailing the mainstream liberal support for The Authoritarian Personality in the 1950s and 1960s. Lipset, Hook, Daniel Bell, Arthur Schlesinger, Richard Hofstadter and the members of American Jewish Committe, who sponsored Adorno and Commentary magazine, were among the anti-Communist liberals who admired TAP and who thought that it had relevance for our country. Although you and I may be to the right of these celebrants, it would be hard to argue that no anti-Communist had any use for Adorno’s ideas.

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  • @wayfarer
    “The mind of one free thinker can possess a million ideas. A million fanatics can have their minds, possessed by a single idea .” – unknown

    https://www.gamasutra.com/db_area/images/blog/302776/AloneOnRock.jpg

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/07/03/nyregion/03data_600.jpg

    Excellent post.

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  • “The mind of one free thinker can possess a million ideas. A million fanatics can have their minds, possessed by a single idea .” – unknown

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  • I now briefly will sum up.

    Would that that have occurred about 3000 words prior.

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  • A “Chomsky” amass of evidencies, a drunk display of conclusions. This is what should be called the bend of intellectuals, what an agenda, it hangs out on all sides. Sully, irrelevant, cheatacious in it’s intend. And yet, “let’s fall for it”?

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  • I have always considered Capitalism and Communism as false oppositions to each other. People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims. The future of the world is moving towards Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses. This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it’s earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population. The same with China recently. Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together. This also explains why big corporations still hire their workforce from Western Universities which are hot beds of leftist propaganda. On one level, it never makes any sense. But when you see the bigger picture, it makes sense.
    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.

    Cultural Marxism (probably) emerged much later then economic Marxism of Karl Marx. It was a solution to a pressing problem of why Western populations were resistant to Communism. The problem was narrowed down to traditional Western civilization, the White race and to some extent traditional Christianity. Cultural Marxism is a ‘slow boil the frog’ method unlike the shock method unleashed on Russia and China. It also uses the tactic of communists and communism infusing in every part of a country’s institutions like blood capillaries around muscles.

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    '' Corporate Communism where the worst of capitalism and communism are blended to rule over and exploit the masses.''
     
    Exactly.
    , @jacques sheete

    People in power use whichever of the two is useful for a particular situation, place and time to attain certain long term aims.
     
    You nailed it. They use whatever works for them at the time and they are not beyond flip flopping repeatedly. Opportunistic parasites, all of them.

    Anyone who thinks differently is entirely deluded.
    , @jacques sheete
    I'm glad you're commenting.

    This explains why many Western crony companies had invested in the the Soviet Union in it’s earlier days of , they could never had got a more slave labour population.
     
    It also explains why the Nazis were demonized and crushed. The Nazis were not only anti-Red, but figured out ways to circumvent the international bankers and instituted a relative worker's paradise. That had to have been a huge threat to the ruling classes of Britain and the USA.

    Crony Capitalism and Communism seem to go well together just like how big corporations and big governments go well together.
     
    True. Each supports and benefits from the other.

    Besides, the false left vs right paradigm keeps the common man on the streets busy infighting and wasting their time without realizing the big schemes being played over them.
     
    Bingo. It goes for all the "threats" they identify for us. It also explains why the "threats" never go away, and why they keep adding new ones.The ruling classes are the biggest threats to the rest of us.
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  • Ay, PF, awesome, rad! I like it, here in the wee hours, for some reason I couldn’t sleep, but you know, I’m a old f*rt and I don’t do skype, just like I don’t FB, but maybe tomorrow I’ll see a granddaughter or two, and they do all that stuff. Don’t worry about a slow start, opening nights can be like that and then Boom!

    Well done! Strong!

    – grandpa

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  • “While the influence of the Frankfurt School of Marxism can’t be ignored here, I find it vastly overstated. The crucial game-changers have been black authors, for the most part home-grown Americans. “

    Reading Horowitz is like reading gatestone institute articles. They can be very convincing, but the always miss the target because Jews are seeped in willful blindness. It starts with the dual passports and allegiances. How in any sane world should dual citizen neocons be allowed to steer foreign policy? But then it continues with the never ending kvetching about “anti-semitism” which is used to stifle any discussion that becomes uncomfortable for them, like how the October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat and a succeeding genocide of millions of Christians. Why should the US be forced to pay $3b on Oct. 1 of every fiscal year to Israel? What about the murder of the Czar by a gang of Ashkenazi? Or the Liberty or the King David Hotel? What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide? What about their bullying and extortion of governments and individuals to prevent BDS?

    I could go on and on, but the point I am making is that Jews know this, but outwardly they are ignorant, at least when writing for the benefit of stupid goyim. Among themselves the truth is often alluded to in public, and that is why reading the Jewish press is so important. Eventually they will try to prevent goyim from accessing it, probably by claiming its all a lie just as with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    This jewish facade of plausible deniability has to be maintained at all costs, and this is why we always hear how jews are so persecuted, why every city is forced to have a holocaust museum and why every few years another holocaust or nazi-genocide movie comes out. It is all about jews maintaining this Potemkin lie and pretending its true.

    Which brings me to one of their biggest lies: That Jews are semitic, that they are white and that they are not white, all simultaneously. If every component of US culture was forced to track the number jews receiving benefit alongside the number of “whites” and other races, then the country would really learn what true racism and patriarchy is. That is why this is just another part of the massive jew lie that they all pretend not to see.

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    What about 70 years of Palestinian genocide?
     
    How can a group of people who numbered zero in 1940, 700,000 in 1950, and >5 million today be said to be undergoing "genocide?" This is the least successful genocide in world history.

    October Revolution was little more than a jewish coup d’etat
     
    I guess that explains why the Soviet Bloc was notoriously pro-Israel, and allowed Jews the same opportunities at universities as everyone else. Oh wait...

    etc.. the rest is more of this usual boring anti-Israel agitprop.
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  • Mind you, they haven’t given up on class struggle.

    Really? Have you seen any class struggle recently that would be detrimental to the top class? Marxists are the tools of neoliberal capitalist world order. They are perfectly happy with the system as long as it gives them a chance to join the top class.

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    "Marxists are the tools of neoliberal capitalist world order. They are perfectly happy with the system as long as it gives them a chance to join the top class."
     
    This matches the actual behaviour of communist elites when they are in power. The career Marxists simply use 'leftist' politics with the usual combination of fake ideology and greed.
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  • AirBnB, like Uber et al, is a company that built its fortunes by operating outside the laws that constrained its more conventional competition… why should we be surprised that immigration law doesn’t matter one whit to them?

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  • One usually doesn’t think of fashion models as skilled workers. President Donald Trump, married to a former fashion model, would beg to differ. And a good test of his commitment to patriotic immigration reform will be his willingness to persuade Congress to repeal legislation enabling foreign models to work here. That law is a part...
  • @Binyamin
    The most famous ex H-1B visa holder in America is Melania Trump, our esteemed first lady (actually not first lady). It is hard not to feel sorry for Melania. She knows she will never be a proper first lady (the FL role is increasingly being fulfilled by Trump's sensible, liberal and tolerant younger daughter). Melania understands that as an immigrant she will never be accepted as one of their own by hardline ultra nationalists such as Bannon and his henchmen who form part of Trump's inner circle. In this sense she reminds one of the late Princess Diana who was never accepted by the British Royal family as 'one of us'.
    Melania is now effectively a virtual prisoner in her Manhattan apartment, 'guarded' by the secret service and devoid of any privacy. Indications are that she is miserably unhappy in her current 'role' . Some people might say she has done well hasn't she? After all she is a college drop out from the failed, insignificant state of Slovenia (or is it Slovakia? I can never be certain) who ended up married to a US president. I am not so sure. In fairness to Melania, she has shown enormous dignity since the election, having made it clear during the campaign that she did not share many of Trump's more outlandish views. Now she finds herself brutally shoved aside apart from the odd carefully choreographed stage managed appearance during gala occasions. Melania knows the price of rebellion. Look what happened to Princess Diana.

    Her role will be somewhat limited by her lack of fluency in English. Hearing her mangle the Lord’s Prayer in Florida was painful. Not her fault, of course.

    On the other hand she’s easy on the eye.

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  • The most famous ex H-1B visa holder in America is Melania Trump, our esteemed first lady (actually not first lady). It is hard not to feel sorry for Melania. She knows she will never be a proper first lady (the FL role is increasingly being fulfilled by Trump’s sensible, liberal and tolerant younger daughter). Melania understands that as an immigrant she will never be accepted as one of their own by hardline ultra nationalists such as Bannon and his henchmen who form part of Trump’s inner circle. In this sense she reminds one of the late Princess Diana who was never accepted by the British Royal family as ‘one of us’.
    Melania is now effectively a virtual prisoner in her Manhattan apartment, ‘guarded’ by the secret service and devoid of any privacy. Indications are that she is miserably unhappy in her current ‘role’ . Some people might say she has done well hasn’t she? After all she is a college drop out from the failed, insignificant state of Slovenia (or is it Slovakia? I can never be certain) who ended up married to a US president. I am not so sure. In fairness to Melania, she has shown enormous dignity since the election, having made it clear during the campaign that she did not share many of Trump’s more outlandish views. Now she finds herself brutally shoved aside apart from the odd carefully choreographed stage managed appearance during gala occasions. Melania knows the price of rebellion. Look what happened to Princess Diana.

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    Her role will be somewhat limited by her lack of fluency in English. Hearing her mangle the Lord's Prayer in Florida was painful. Not her fault, of course.

    On the other hand she's easy on the eye.
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  • Yea, and how about all those adoptions of blonde children from Eastern Europe… maybe shut those down, too, while you’re at it.

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  • @anon
    Why does "racism" agitate you? It is just a love for people similar to us (the majority). What is wrong in saying that nobody objects to women like Ivana, Melanija, Mary Anne coming over here; whether as models or as au pairs?

    BTW, "racism" is enshrined in immigration law; it is just called by the older traditional name: "national origin". And not just USA; almost EVERY country practices "racism" in its immigration law. The U.K. even grants multiple classes of citizenship based on "national origin".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#Classes_of_British_nationality

    Racism doesn’t agitate me. What does is the constant whining about it and attempts to use it to stop any discussion about limiting immigration.

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  • @SFG
    LOL. The one form of immigration all the lonely guys on here will support.

    Guys, you're not getting them. (Neither am I, of course.)

    As others have noted the good thing would be the tripple down effect. The more women per men the better for every man (although for some only marginally).

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  • @Sam J.
    If we're going to have mass immigration lets stop bringing in workers that kill Men's jobs. Let's import 10 million girls a year between the ages of 18 and 24 and kill Feminism.

    Oh the gnashing of teeth if we were to do that.

    it would be very funny when the next wave of refugees coming to Europe would not consist of Arab and Subsaharan African men but East Asian women. I guess white European women would rethink their stance on “refugees welcome” pretty fast. Of course this won’t happen.

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  • The best place to start the search for the next American supermodel would be the favorite store of Americans: Walmart!

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA
    The hatred of H-1B is mainly because a large number of them go to non-whites. If they were whites, nobody would object.

    racism, racism, racism, blah, blah, blah. I doubt many Americans knew that models were getting in on H-1B visas. I thought supermodels got in on the O-1 visa due to their high pay. Didn't Linda Evangelista say she didn't get out of bed for less than 10,000 dollars?

    The programming community has been against them since they began. It is just that many engineers have a decidedly anti-union streak that keeps them from organizing. The Congress is also bought and paid for by the corporations. The corporate media also keeps printing lies about the program to give the impression that it is needed and doesn't harm Americans.

    Why does “racism” agitate you? It is just a love for people similar to us (the majority). What is wrong in saying that nobody objects to women like Ivana, Melanija, Mary Anne coming over here; whether as models or as au pairs?

    BTW, “racism” is enshrined in immigration law; it is just called by the older traditional name: “national origin”. And not just USA; almost EVERY country practices “racism” in its immigration law. The U.K. even grants multiple classes of citizenship based on “national origin”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#Classes_of_British_nationality

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    Racism doesn't agitate me. What does is the constant whining about it and attempts to use it to stop any discussion about limiting immigration.
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  • Like other commenters, I will not endorse a program designed to keep hot babes out of the US. Also I sense a slippery slope here. If models are to be kept out, what about wives? A lot of American guys marry foreign women because so many American women are careerist man-hating feminists. Trump is not the only guy to marry beautiful foreigners; many ordinary American guys do the same and I bet a lot of those same guys voted for him.

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  • So, Ali G wasn’t being original:

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  • For every model allowed into the US two immigrant dwarfs should be deported. This is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist in the first place but let’s do it anyway. Beautify America, yay.

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  • The hatred of H-1B is mainly because a large number of them go to non-whites. If they were whites, nobody would object.

    racism, racism, racism, blah, blah, blah. I doubt many Americans knew that models were getting in on H-1B visas. I thought supermodels got in on the O-1 visa due to their high pay. Didn’t Linda Evangelista say she didn’t get out of bed for less than 10,000 dollars?

    The programming community has been against them since they began. It is just that many engineers have a decidedly anti-union streak that keeps them from organizing. The Congress is also bought and paid for by the corporations. The corporate media also keeps printing lies about the program to give the impression that it is needed and doesn’t harm Americans.

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    Why does "racism" agitate you? It is just a love for people similar to us (the majority). What is wrong in saying that nobody objects to women like Ivana, Melanija, Mary Anne coming over here; whether as models or as au pairs?

    BTW, "racism" is enshrined in immigration law; it is just called by the older traditional name: "national origin". And not just USA; almost EVERY country practices "racism" in its immigration law. The U.K. even grants multiple classes of citizenship based on "national origin".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#Classes_of_British_nationality
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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    Ivana Marie Zelníčková came to U.S. on a visa for working as a model.

    Melanija Knavs came to U.S. on a visa to work as a model.

    Mary Anne MacLeod came to U.S. on a visa to work as a Domestic worker.

    All three became Mrs. Trumps (first two wives, third one mother).

    Fat chance anyone will have denying visa to white models. The hatred of H-1B is mainly because a large number of them go to non-whites. If they were whites, nobody would object.

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  • This seems like an odd problem to have if the era of mass communication is really all it’s cracked up to be. Why can’t the models simply be photographed in studios in their own countries? Surely there must be a way to set up international licensing agreements and franchises between studios around the world so that the bulk of the work could be handled locally. Unless, of course, the model needs to be physically present for runway walks, fittings, promotional events, etc.

    It seems this is not so much about models “working” as it is about the studios and fashion designers being able to bring in whomever they want, whenever they want, and make use of them under conditions that they alone control, for the sake of turning out exactly the kind of look they’re going for. I get that; when billions of dollars and the prestige of your entire brand are at stake, you’re not going to leave anything in the hands of people you don’t interact with and can’t manage to your satisfaction. But it goes to show that mass communication has not really abolished distance and locality after all. Nothing travels better over the internet than a simple photograph—it is universally recognizable and downloadable, and doesn’t even require translation. If the globalist dream cannot claim a victory even here, then it really isn’t good for anything whatsoever.

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  • LOL. The one form of immigration all the lonely guys on here will support.

    Guys, you’re not getting them. (Neither am I, of course.)

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    As others have noted the good thing would be the tripple down effect. The more women per men the better for every man (although for some only marginally).
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  • A huge allotment for models under h1b should be maintained. it means a lot of white emigration.

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  • If we’re going to have mass immigration lets stop bringing in workers that kill Men’s jobs. Let’s import 10 million girls a year between the ages of 18 and 24 and kill Feminism.

    Oh the gnashing of teeth if we were to do that.

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    it would be very funny when the next wave of refugees coming to Europe would not consist of Arab and Subsaharan African men but East Asian women. I guess white European women would rethink their stance on "refugees welcome" pretty fast. Of course this won't happen.
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  • So the USA has been encouraging handsome models to come reside in NY, Florida and hunky youthful SoCal to please come stay and do what comes naturally to make America Beautiful Again….Anyone could see that was the devious plan, go visit and look around…..Breeding beautiful people by natural selection, no gmo in Southern California.

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  • You’re not going to get much traction with me pushing to keep babes out of the country. That Melania snared Trump has a trickle-down effect good for other American males.

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