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    The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
  • @SolontoCroesus

    The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts.
     
    ha

    Ask Hester Prynne.

    Puritans had a keen sense of psychological violence.
    It's still violence.
    The mouthpieces of god who mandated that violence still operated on the proposition, "Damn it, I am in charge."

    Interesting that quote is what stood out to me as well. The Puritans could be some sadistic SOBs by what I understand of their history. Their treatment of their fellow “Christians” including Quakers was a bit creative and not exactly gentle.

    Here’s someone commenting on their furious nuttiness.:

    The Puritans are almost always portrayed as a peaceful and persecuted bunch, but they were a very revolutionary, seditious, and violent people.:

    England was plunged into an environment of Puritan blood rage and unreasonable fundamentalism. In the words of Hume, “fanaticism had its own language, it was a new jargon invented by the fury and hypocrisy of the times.” The Puritans wanted “No king, no nobility,” and like every leftists or progressive, the Puritans wanted “universal equality.” To use the words of Hume, “it was, in short, necessary to fanaticize the people with notions of perfect equality, to assure the obedience of the masses, and gradually to form a coalition against the monarchy.”

    http://shoebat.com/2014/11/03/puritans-just-violent-muslims/

    Another source wrote this. (Sorry no link)

    The Puritans wanted to be free to establish a “Christian” theocracy. (A perverted one complete with Indian extermination, communist principles, a police state…)

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.


    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow -- even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same -----


    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, "Appreciate your service" he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.


    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .

    What does it mean to “serve honorably” in an unjust war of aggression? The only “honorable” action is to refuse orders.

    I know, I know….You are incapable of seeing Vietnam as anything but an honorable endeavor from the charitable US govt. lol.

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  • @lack of meaning
    I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they " fragged " , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them ...

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f.... gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ....

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

    SHAME ON YOU…”lack of meaning”
    YOU and your ilk are responsible for perpetuating the “Vietnam Veteran” stereotype in which YOU paint all of us with a very broad brush. For your information, almost ALL of us Vietnam veterans came back with sound minds to an ungrateful country and quietly resumed our lives without incident or fanfare. The promised government jobs that were mandated into law for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. YOU are of the same ilk as traitor “Hanoi” Jane Fonda who gave “aid and comfort” to the enemy while our POWS were (and are) still in captivity. Very few returning Vietnam veterans had problems…the stereotype that YOU claim…is totally false.
    I notice that you have swallowed the standard “loss of Vietnam” lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle…bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South s the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American “mainstream media” claimed it was a victory for the communists.
    For your information, the American Vietnam war was not a “civil-war” but was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.
    YOU must have watched the Ken Burns’ “schlockumentary” on Vietnam, in which he built up the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops. Of course, to his credit, Burns “let it slip” that the “re-education camps” contrary to communist claims (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over–it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were “detained” for as long as twenty years.
    Post-war Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of “boat people risked life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” [silence].

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  • Anon[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Mallory

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.
     
    In other words "To take their stuff". Why else have a "puppet regime"?

    The purposes of America’s fake wars are not complex. Its the desire of adolescents to be war heroes, ie the American version of the medieval saint, plus a lot of cowboy excitement from shooting off lots of guns and missiles. Add in the vast amounts of money and prestige the military engenders in adolescent or pubescent American society, and you end up with a gigantic bureaucracy desperate with the need for war, and the ability to create as many wars as it wants via its ownership of the media and political system. What happens to the invaded and regime changed victim country is largely irrelevant, as by that time the American war machine, grossly obese like everything else in America, has moved on to its next theater of excitement and thrills.

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  • Y. V. says:

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism.

    ”China has thoroughly studied the Western technique of getting out of crises via controllable armed conflicts and wars. It has written its own script for squeezing the United States off the world stage. The Western script becomes an episode in a larger game.”

    Contents of the script:

    - while remaining inactive and all but invisible, China retains and replenishes its resources;

    - China supports actions of the West aimed at mutually assured destruction of Russia and the Muslim world;

    - China supports bilateral conflicts in line with the Western script;

    - China becomes ideologically active and active in the military sense when the moment is ripe;

    - when the conflicts are over, China moves into the new territories…

    The global conclusion is simple. This is the first time strategic interests of the West, Russia, Israel, and the Muslim world coincide. We can only survive together.

    [MORE]

    Under the unfolding script, all of us are victims. China has already won, strategically and tactically.

    The test is plain – we will sink or swim together. The new global Chinese order will follow the rules the Americans drew up for themselves. What counts is that the “golden billion” of the world’s population alone will prosper; the remaining 4 billion are expendable. Unlike the United States, to say nothing of the Russians or Jews, China has this billion already. All of us are expendable in this wicked colonial system of distribution of resources.

    Proposals:

    1. All efforts, including from the elite of international finance, should be made to stop the war.

    2. Russia should become the real leader of the new process. (It has already become it but not yet aware of the fact.) The West and Israel need a strategic alliance with the Muslim world more than anything else, and this alliance is possible only through Russia. Only Russia in an alliance with the Muslim world can keep China in check without conflicts, helping it find its new place in the world as another super-power.

    3. Leaders of Russia, America, Israel, Europe, Iran, India, and international financial capitals must initiate a dialogue over leaving this crisis behind and preventing events like those which swept America on September 11.

    A time of change is upon us, and it’s futile to wish we were living in some other era. We have to change ourselves and change the world.”

    THE WESTERN SCRIPT

    Using techniques of manipulating public opinion, the West is trying to establish the illusion of a global forces with the fascist- like ideology of Wahhabi fundamentalism. As far as the West is concerned, Wahhabi and Islam are the same thing. It is because of this that the essential terrorism of Wahhabi ideas is being formulated so simply for public consumption: all Muslims are terrorists by nature.

    The preliminary objective of brainwashing (Islam is the basis of terrorism) is thus achieved. Therefore, the terrorist world of Islam should be maneuvered into fighting Russia. Russia and the Muslim world will destroy each other, and the West will gain access to the natural resources on their territories. The dollar pyramid will straighten once again, and the economic crisis will be over. Life goes on.

    Apart from the need to shock the international community with atrocities of Islamic terrorists, this script requires the presence of some country fundamental for this particular global force. It should answer the following requirements: a large Muslim population, government based on military dictatorship (which allows prompt replacement of the leader); borders with Russia, China, and India; nuclear arsenals; and a well-trained army with combat experience. Pakistan is an ideal fit, and Afghanistan is just a capsule.

    Continuation of the script after the terrorist attacks in the United States: retaliatory strikes at Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and so on, depending on the situation. A dramatic rise in anti-American sentiments throughout the Muslim world as a result. A coup in Pakistan, leading to the rise of a radical Wahhabi leader there. Unification of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    A Taliban invasion of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan will follow. Conflicts with Iran and Iraq will follow. The second phase of preferable armed conflicts is as follows: Iran and Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey and Greece, Georgia and Abkhazia, China and Taiwan, North Korea and South Korea, Israel and Palestine, and escalation of the situation in Chechnya. Russia will inevitably find itself dragged into some war or other, and declare general mobilization. Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, and some other ethnic republics will refuse to go to war under those circumstances. The rest of the population of Russia will also object. All this may result in a drastic destabilization in Russia, and a loss of control. Things may even reach extremes, ending in a military coup or disintegration of the Russian Federation.

    However, some details indicate that this particular script has bogged down. The world is different now. In the past, it was sufficient to torch the Reichstag or assassinate a prince; but now, even the horrors of September 11 no longer suffice.

    That is why some sort of “fuel” is needed to give the script momentum – terrorist attacks on the scale of September 11, but not in America alone. Over there, in Europe, and in Russia as well. Anthrax is just a prelude. Controllable terrorism, however, has its own limits. Russia knows, for example, that “Chechen terrorists” will no longer suffice. After all, linking them to Islam is fairly difficult.

    But even that is not the key point. Certain indirect aspects indicate that the script considered here is not the only one. Most probably, it is not even the whole script, just part of an even larger one. In accordance with the latter, Russia and the Muslim world fighting each other are not the only objectives. The West and Israel are too. It follows that some unknown Contractor and Player must be present somewhere. This script becomes possible when we assume that some Western elites and secret services made a kind of covert pact with this still-unknown Player.”

    #14
    Novaya Gazeta
    No. 75
    October 2001
    THE THIRD FORCE OF WORLD WAR III (excerpts, emphasis added)

    http://www.russialist.org/archives/5497-14.php

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  • @Rick Johnson
    As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: "Thank you for your service."

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn't understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

    April showers bring May flowers.

    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?

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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    The best way to “ameliorate the primary dynamic in question” is to mandate that the arrogant DC nitwits read the foreign policy sections of George Washington’s Farewell Address first thing every day. Have C-SPAN televise the reading every day that Congress is in session.

    Then maybe those militarist clowns will eventually put 2 and 2 together without the need to draft American citizens into militarized slavery.

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  • @Dr. X

    What Happens When a Few Volunteer and the Rest Just Watch?
     
    ...the volunteers become mercenaries for Israel.

    If Jews direct our military forces for their nefarious ends these Jews must be incompetent halfwits. How did making Iraq an Iranian client benefit Israel? Did the Libyan failure benefit Israel? Is the Syrian/Russian/Iranian state a boon to Israel? Maybe Israel should try something else.

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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    "Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.”"
     
    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I'd go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn't changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty
     
    Just come out and say "Criminal." Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice
     
    Colonel, we haven't had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called "color of law." You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up
     
    That's just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it's our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia's Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we're rabid dogs. BTW if you're really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    "The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men..."
     
    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don't give a rat's a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here's the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel's article is a fail.

    Colonel Bacevich is only playing the devil’s advocate, and, in a diplomatic manner, showing the contradictions between the “official” military agenda and the reality of today’s world.

    If the US was ruled with the interests of its people and servicemen in mind, it would not be engaged in endless and unwinnable wars. But the NeoCons imperial elite don’t care, as they don’t have skin in the game, unlike the military (Colonel Bacevich lost his only son in Iraq).

    The fate of an Empire is demise, because it is ruled by the few, who don’t care about reality, until this reality engulfs them.
    Patriots try to stop such demise by the modest , realistic means available to them: enlightening people.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    you really should have put a warning atop that photo.

    mea culpa sir

    mea culpa

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  • @Rick Johnson
    As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: "Thank you for your service."

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn't understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.

    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow — even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same —–

    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, “Appreciate your service” he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.

    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .

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    What does it mean to "serve honorably" in an unjust war of aggression? The only "honorable" action is to refuse orders.

    I know, I know....You are incapable of seeing Vietnam as anything but an honorable endeavor from the charitable US govt. lol.
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  • @Fran Macadam
    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    "The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else."

    Laughing . . . I get it.

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  • @Anon

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
     
    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I've noticed you absent from Revusky's last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

    Nice.
    Agree, of course.
    Didn’t want to go that path on this site. Tried a couple of times and, let’s say that the level of misunderstanding was staggering.
    Getting phylosophical, or even deep into human very makeup, well, this isn’t the place.

    …because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.

    I’ll say just one thing.
    I had my own war. Apparently, it was really a very bad one, by everybody’s account.
    I just know one thing: I never felt so alive then and there. Nothing compares. Nothing……
    All elements of life itself were on the level I’ve never felt after that. The scent of air, intensity of sounds, taste of food and drinks, sleep, rest, comradeship, well…everything was 100 %. Nothing in civilian life compares. Nothing. Well, one thing only, actually.Won’t say what.
    Crazy a?
    Or….hehe…..poor civilians, “chattering class” in particular.

    If we want to get analytical now, the same applies to groups. A couple of mates, together, in war. A small community…larger community…..etc….etc.
    Anyway.

    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

    Read some of the article, skimmed through some parts. Read some comments; got surprised by, say, “internal workings” of this site. Too much personal bullshit and politics if you ask me.
    As for the topic itself, well, got that video about Pentagon plane, so here I am:
    Before reading some stuff on this site (thank you guys, a couple only, of course) I thought one thing.
    Now I am inclined to think otherwise.
    Two things:
    I buy, 70/30 that the buildings, all of three of them, did collapse due to a peculiar combination of how they were built with how and with what they were hit, plus the rest. So, no demolitions.
    Second, Pentagon plane. That video, well….so, again, I believe that a plane (the plane) hit Pentagon.

    Now, did the government know that hijacking was going to happen, I am sure some parts of the intelligence community/security apparatus did. Was it intentionally not prevented, don’t think so. I go with incompetence and organizational culture there.

    That the event was manipulated and used for the Deep State goals, of course.
    I am sure that as soon some of them knew what was happening they started calculating and acting.
    Having said all this, I really don’t want to get into debate about that. I mean…done around zillion times already.

    One more thing.
    Mentioned my little war. So, can’t get emotionally involved into 9/11. What Americans see as a terrible thing re loss of life, limb and property, guys like me see “and…..?”.
    I am widely known as Russia hater here. So.. this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

    is, in my book, worse than 9/11.
    Much worse.
    And, to add insult to the injury, only this

    2004

    In September 2004, following bombing attacks on two aircraft and the downtown Moscow Metro, Chechen terrorists seized over 1,000 hostages at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia.

    is on the Wikipedia site re “Terrorism in Russia”. Not even a fucking link.

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  • @Wally
    You laughably stated:

    "The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around."

    Problem is that Jews were not 'holocausted' as they allege. There was no 'millions of Jews murdered', there were no 'gas chambers'. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It's all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    yes, because the only thing the cow-like goyim brain understands is raw power, and for the Jews to accomplish this, they have to use treachery and lies.

    that’s why you must be made to feel guilty, so when the Senator who’s asked by Tucker Carlson, ‘why must we go to war in Syria’, and he answers ‘if you care about Israel…’

    now if you didn’t kneejerk feel guilty about all the Jews you goyim gassed and your ovens, then would you feel the proper levels of guilt for what you did to them?!

    No. You’d say ‘fuck Israel, what do I care?’

    and so this is why they had to lie about it all, because of anti-Semites like you, who otherwise wouldn’t be willing to engage in endless wars for Israel! And wouldn’t give them endless billions and build endless Holocaust museums, to guilt-trip the next generations. How dumb do you have to be?!

    It’s not rocket science man!

    If you’d have simply allowed the world to destroy Germany, and then set about building Israel on her ashes, and then sent Israel all those billions it demanded and waged endless wars on her behalf, then they wouldn’t have even needed to go to all of that trouble to create the Holocaust narrative to enslave your minds and soul$.

    Duh!

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  • @Wally
    "it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China."

    Yet Iran is linking up with China, big time.

    https://thediplomat.com/2016/11/iran-china-sign-military-cooperation-agreement/

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/iran-and-china-are-strengthening-their-military-ties

    https://financialtribune.com/articles/economy-domestic-economy/69312/iran-china-h1-trade-up-31-to-18-billion

    You are right. However, they probably would prefer to have an overland connection also that is not threatened by the U.S.

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  • @Rurik

    except for the vultures who got rich with the war
     
    when I read post 83, where he said " I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn't 'fragged' an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, 'based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there's few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/madeleine-albright-6.jpg

    you really should have put a warning atop that photo.

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    mea culpa sir

    mea culpa
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  • @Rurik

    war – but then, sum up by blaming it on “The Joos.”
     
    exactly!

    if anything, the "Joos" are trying to stop all these wars!

    who came out strongest against the wars on Iraq, and then Libya and then Syria, if not the ((NYT))?!

    who has condemned the recent bombing of Syria, (over obvious lies about chemical attacks) if not Sheldon Adelson and bb Netanyahu!

    I mean come on, right?

    AIPAC has little to no influence in DC, but still that plucky little voice has been adamant that all of these wars are illegal, misguided and wrong.

    The Kagan 'cabal' (as some anti-Semites refer to them) have been demanding investigations into the contrived putsch (Yatz is our guy') in Ukraine, and all the lies about MH17!

    The entire Jewish media, from CNN to all the rest have been exposing the lies about these wars like no other! Look how they railed at Clinton for her role in Libya!

    But these tiresome anti-Semites will always look for an excuse for their own failures and failings, and it's not like we haven't seen this kind of scapegoat blaming before! When you're having difficulties, there's the temptation to always find some group to blame and spread blood libels, just as a certain mustached demagogue from history showed us all how it's done.

    It reminds me of those terrorists in Israel that never lose an opportunity to try to blame "The Joos" for all of their problems, so they attack Israel (on Passover!), and threaten to push her into the sea, demanding Hitlerian calls for genocide, like "The right of Return"!

    They may as well be building gas chambers and ovens with talk like that, and what does the world do?!

    they act all crybaby because a few terrorists got shot. Well what does these modern day Adolf Hitlers think the Jews are going to do when they demand The Right of Return / genocide?

    The Jews suffered the world to walk into those "showers" in the last century. You'll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again' this time around.

    From Palestinian terrorists, to neo-white supremacists like Ron Paul and PCR, pooh-poohing these wars, there's always someone looking for a group to blame for their own mediocrity and incompetence.

    You laughably stated:

    “The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around.”

    Problem is that Jews were not ‘holocausted’ as they allege. There was no ‘millions of Jews murdered’, there were no ‘gas chambers’. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

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    It’s all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.
     
    yes, because the only thing the cow-like goyim brain understands is raw power, and for the Jews to accomplish this, they have to use treachery and lies.

    that's why you must be made to feel guilty, so when the Senator who's asked by Tucker Carlson, 'why must we go to war in Syria', and he answers 'if you care about Israel...'

    now if you didn't kneejerk feel guilty about all the Jews you goyim gassed and your ovens, then would you feel the proper levels of guilt for what you did to them?!

    No. You'd say 'fuck Israel, what do I care?'

    and so this is why they had to lie about it all, because of anti-Semites like you, who otherwise wouldn't be willing to engage in endless wars for Israel! And wouldn't give them endless billions and build endless Holocaust museums, to guilt-trip the next generations. How dumb do you have to be?!

    It's not rocket science man!

    If you'd have simply allowed the world to destroy Germany, and then set about building Israel on her ashes, and then sent Israel all those billions it demanded and waged endless wars on her behalf, then they wouldn't have even needed to go to all of that trouble to create the Holocaust narrative to enslave your minds and soul$.

    Duh!
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  • @anonymous

    Any war failing to yield peace is purposeless and, if purposeless, both wrong and stupid.
     
    What about the most common example of war for the purpose of plunder and material gain? The morality of "wrong" doesn't enter into it and ultimate peace may or may not be a goal.
    It's not the fault of the military that Afghans haven't all cooperated with their occupation. They've done the job assigned to them but impossible jobs are, after all, impossible. It's a military-political pipe-dream that was created by the incompetents of the Bush years and the political part is unattainable.

    Madeleine Albright said it best: “If we have to use force, it is because we are America
     
    I like this "we" part. That evil witch certainly never risked herself but sent other people's children into the cauldron. There's no "we" in all this. The upper echelon sacrifices the small fry and their lives mean nothing to them.

    Having outsourced responsibility for defending the country
     
    They're not defending the country, that's mind-boggling propaganda. There's so much delusion here that one could go through this article line-by-line and dissect it. I'm off this "support our troops" wagon. It's just a fiction; you sign up, you know the risks.

    They’re not defending the country, that’s mind-boggling propaganda.

    Indeed. The last Americans to die defending their country were the Confederate soldiers who died defending theirs. All others died for the US empire, including Union forces who died while making the South it’s first victim.

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  • @Mike P

    The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It’s not the military that is deciding to stay forever.
     
    The failure to rebuild functioning nation states and the "need" for continuous occupation are not bugs but features. The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with "fighting terror" or "spreading democracy and freedom" - it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China. Afghanistan cannot be allowed to make its own decisions in this matter, so it must endure the occupation.
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    You are right. However, they probably would prefer to have an overland connection also that is not threatened by the U.S.
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    Indeed, it would cure the primary dynamic in question practically over-night.

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  • @lack of meaning
    I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they " fragged " , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them ...

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f.... gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ....

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

    except for the vultures who got rich with the war

    when I read post 83, where he said ” I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn’t ‘fragged’ an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, ‘based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there’s few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

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  • what bollocks.
    The purpose of all wars is conquest..

    That a few “volunteer” is hopefully a sign of decreasing stupidity.

    What sane person would fight, kill or die for the political filth?

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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    No, the trillions weren’t spent (as in wasted) they were simply diverted from the public to the private sector.

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  • @mark green
    Well-written article, but Andrew Bacevich avoids (as usual) examining--or even mentioning--(1) the massive money, (2) entrenched political machinery, and (3) intellectual sleight-of-hand which funds, formulates, and justifies Washington's lopsided and murderous Mideast 'foreign policies'.

    Shall we count the bodies together, Andrew?

    Iraq, for instance, was a functioning and rising society before Zio-American forces went in there and annihilated it. Millions died or were wounded. Millions more have been displaced. Chaos came next.

    Shouldn't the perpetrators be identified and punished, Mr. Bacevich?

    Any thoughts on crime and punishment?

    In the meantime, let's see if we can detect a pattern in all this.

    Here's the hit list:

    Anti-Zionist Iraq: Crushed and neutralized. Anti-Zionist Syria: In ruins. Anti-Zionist Palestine: Under siege and in permanent lockdown. Anti-Zionist Libya: Dismembered and neutralized. And (coming soon): Death, misery and mayhem delivered to pro-Palestinian (and anti-Zionist) Lebanon and pro-Palestinian (anti-Zionist) Iran.

    Is there a pattern here?--(one that Mr. Bacevich failed to notice)

    Perhaps.

    Are there pro-Zionist fingerprints in this crime scene?

    Oh, maybe.

    With entire nations destroyed, does this massive destruction not have the appearance of a criminal enterprise?

    Possibly.

    But support our troops!

    Bibi was right when he (privately) whispered to a concerned Israeli: "Don't worry about America. America can be moved."

    So true.

    America has certainly been 'moved'.

    We are headed over a cliff!

    But Bacevich barely notices. His 'scholarship' is typical of the Zionist-friendly, PC drivel that emanates from 'TomDispatch'.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    Can we talk about it?

    Death, discord and destruction (of Israel's foes) is the objective.

    So from an Israeli perspective, things are going very well in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine.

    Israel is rising. Her foes are sinking.

    America's 'military disasters' are just what the Jewish doctor ordered. Mission accomplished!

    Yet all Bacevich can finally say is that America's all-volunteer army is "the root cause of our predicament".

    Are we to take this man seriously?

    What about Israel's de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about 'patterns' of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Maybe next article, eh?

    Bacevich as presented his readers a huge puzzle which he is determined not to solve. Perhaps that's his objective.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    multi-trillion dollar killing spree

    What about Israel’s de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about ‘patterns’ of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Bacevich is a rank whore

    an unctuous, gaping gash, undulating in yawning anticipation for copious and well-earned wampum.

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  • I had the chance to speak with many american veterans of the Vietnam war in the 70`s . There was the draft ot the time .

    Many of them came back very sick , abuse of alcohol , drugs , postraumatic stress disorder , they committed genocides against civilians , they felt guilty , they ” fragged ” , they were demoralized , they felt their country had betrayed them …

    Many of them told me that the worse was that after a time in Vietnam they did nor see the meaning of the war , some of them told me : well if those f…. gooks want to be communists , let them be communists , I do not understand them , who am I or my country to tell them what to do , after all if communism is a shitty system let them eat shit , and at the end if it is a good system we will copy them , but what the hell are we doing there ….

    The war of Vietnam was a big defeat fot the USA in the peak of its power at the hands ot a little
    backwarded country , a military defeat , a moral defeat , a human defeat , an economical defeat ( except for the vultures who got rich with the war )

    If Bacevich ( nice Russian name tovarich , privet ) defends the draft , or the arab wars , he has not learned anything fron the Vietnam war , and I am affraid from none of the arab wars , habibi .

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    except for the vultures who got rich with the war
     
    when I read post 83, where he said " I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    I was tempted to suggest that some of them, may have wondered if he hadn't 'fragged' an ambitious lieutenant or two, and wanted to thank him for the effort.

    If a war is immoral, illegal, unconstitutional, 'based on lies, conducted against civilians for the fun and profit of evil men and women, (as all of our recent wars have clearly been)

    then there's few things in this world that would bolster my disposition more than news that one or two particularly vile war pigs might catch a bit of their own medicine.

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/madeleine-albright-6.jpg
    , @anarchyst
    SHAME ON YOU..."lack of meaning"
    YOU and your ilk are responsible for perpetuating the "Vietnam Veteran" stereotype in which YOU paint all of us with a very broad brush. For your information, almost ALL of us Vietnam veterans came back with sound minds to an ungrateful country and quietly resumed our lives without incident or fanfare. The promised government jobs that were mandated into law for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. YOU are of the same ilk as traitor "Hanoi" Jane Fonda who gave "aid and comfort" to the enemy while our POWS were (and are) still in captivity. Very few returning Vietnam veterans had problems...the stereotype that YOU claim...is totally false.
    I notice that you have swallowed the standard "loss of Vietnam" lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle...bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South s the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American "mainstream media" claimed it was a victory for the communists.
    For your information, the American Vietnam war was not a "civil-war" but was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.
    YOU must have watched the Ken Burns' "schlockumentary" on Vietnam, in which he built up the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops. Of course, to his credit, Burns "let it slip" that the "re-education camps" contrary to communist claims (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over--it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were "detained" for as long as twenty years.
    Post-war Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of "boat people risked life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" [silence].
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  • @Fran Macadam
    One fiendish way to neutralize the good counsel of those against these wars, is to state all the many obvious and provable negative motives, properties and consequences of war - but then, sum up by blaming it on "The Joos."

    war – but then, sum up by blaming it on “The Joos.”

    exactly!

    if anything, the “Joos” are trying to stop all these wars!

    who came out strongest against the wars on Iraq, and then Libya and then Syria, if not the ((NYT))?!

    who has condemned the recent bombing of Syria, (over obvious lies about chemical attacks) if not Sheldon Adelson and bb Netanyahu!

    I mean come on, right?

    AIPAC has little to no influence in DC, but still that plucky little voice has been adamant that all of these wars are illegal, misguided and wrong.

    The Kagan ‘cabal’ (as some anti-Semites refer to them) have been demanding investigations into the contrived putsch (Yatz is our guy’) in Ukraine, and all the lies about MH17!

    The entire Jewish media, from CNN to all the rest have been exposing the lies about these wars like no other! Look how they railed at Clinton for her role in Libya!

    But these tiresome anti-Semites will always look for an excuse for their own failures and failings, and it’s not like we haven’t seen this kind of scapegoat blaming before! When you’re having difficulties, there’s the temptation to always find some group to blame and spread blood libels, just as a certain mustached demagogue from history showed us all how it’s done.

    It reminds me of those terrorists in Israel that never lose an opportunity to try to blame “The Joos” for all of their problems, so they attack Israel (on Passover!), and threaten to push her into the sea, demanding Hitlerian calls for genocide, like “The right of Return”!

    They may as well be building gas chambers and ovens with talk like that, and what does the world do?!

    they act all crybaby because a few terrorists got shot. Well what does these modern day Adolf Hitlers think the Jews are going to do when they demand The Right of Return / genocide?

    The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around.

    From Palestinian terrorists, to neo-white supremacists like Ron Paul and PCR, pooh-poohing these wars, there’s always someone looking for a group to blame for their own mediocrity and incompetence.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    You laughably stated:

    "The Jews suffered the world to walk into those “showers” in the last century. You’ll please forgive them if they prefer to say Never Again’ this time around."

    Problem is that Jews were not 'holocausted' as they allege. There was no 'millions of Jews murdered', there were no 'gas chambers'. Absurdly impossible. Proof is utterly lacking.

    It's all about lies & propaganda for profit & power.

    The facts are that the 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only lies require censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

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  • @mark green
    Well-written article, but Andrew Bacevich avoids (as usual) examining--or even mentioning--(1) the massive money, (2) entrenched political machinery, and (3) intellectual sleight-of-hand which funds, formulates, and justifies Washington's lopsided and murderous Mideast 'foreign policies'.

    Shall we count the bodies together, Andrew?

    Iraq, for instance, was a functioning and rising society before Zio-American forces went in there and annihilated it. Millions died or were wounded. Millions more have been displaced. Chaos came next.

    Shouldn't the perpetrators be identified and punished, Mr. Bacevich?

    Any thoughts on crime and punishment?

    In the meantime, let's see if we can detect a pattern in all this.

    Here's the hit list:

    Anti-Zionist Iraq: Crushed and neutralized. Anti-Zionist Syria: In ruins. Anti-Zionist Palestine: Under siege and in permanent lockdown. Anti-Zionist Libya: Dismembered and neutralized. And (coming soon): Death, misery and mayhem delivered to pro-Palestinian (and anti-Zionist) Lebanon and pro-Palestinian (anti-Zionist) Iran.

    Is there a pattern here?--(one that Mr. Bacevich failed to notice)

    Perhaps.

    Are there pro-Zionist fingerprints in this crime scene?

    Oh, maybe.

    With entire nations destroyed, does this massive destruction not have the appearance of a criminal enterprise?

    Possibly.

    But support our troops!

    Bibi was right when he (privately) whispered to a concerned Israeli: "Don't worry about America. America can be moved."

    So true.

    America has certainly been 'moved'.

    We are headed over a cliff!

    But Bacevich barely notices. His 'scholarship' is typical of the Zionist-friendly, PC drivel that emanates from 'TomDispatch'.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    Can we talk about it?

    Death, discord and destruction (of Israel's foes) is the objective.

    So from an Israeli perspective, things are going very well in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine.

    Israel is rising. Her foes are sinking.

    America's 'military disasters' are just what the Jewish doctor ordered. Mission accomplished!

    Yet all Bacevich can finally say is that America's all-volunteer army is "the root cause of our predicament".

    Are we to take this man seriously?

    What about Israel's de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about 'patterns' of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Maybe next article, eh?

    Bacevich as presented his readers a huge puzzle which he is determined not to solve. Perhaps that's his objective.

    Great post, just what I think.

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  • As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: “Thank you for your service.”

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn’t understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

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    I would encourage you not to despise the good will of citizens, even when it is irritating. I appreciate your service. I honor your sacrifice in Vietnam and millions of S. Vietnamese respect what you and your fellows did on their behalf. We generally assume that you served honorably, if not that is a matter for you to rest with your conscience.


    I want to encourage you to embrace whatever blessings citizens can and are willing to bestow -- even if in the main said bequeathed is obtuse and annoying. No one wants to insult vets, well few anymore and no one can immediately heal the wounds of an ungrateful and vastly misinformed citizenry on the issue of Vietnam. But I like to encourage you to let them try and embrace it the same -----


    excuse or not my well intentioned comments. I tell me father repeatedly, "Appreciate your service" he too served in Vietnam and elsewhere.


    so great a sacrifice none can repay . . .
    , @Steve Gittelson

    April showers bring May flowers.
     
    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    The biological purpose of war is to kill off ignorant, violent people and those who value themselves so little that they willing to risk their lives follow orders from literally anyone with a dollar in their pocket.

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  • Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @gsjackson
    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.

    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.

    My dad, who is a WWII veteran in his 90’s, saw heavy combat and received a Purple Heart and still has shrapnel in him from a Japanese grenade. He hates to be thanked for his service and never stands in church on Veterans Day weekend when they ask for veterans to stand. He thinks this glorification of people who “served” is total ludicrous and they should not get any benefits or preference for it. He said no one ever mentioned being in the war, and especially not simply being in the military, when he was younger.

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  • Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    The purpose of all wars, is peace.
     
    No.
    "War is the continuation of politics by other means."

    War is evil. Large-scale, state-sanctioned violence is justified only when all other means of achieving genuinely essential objectives have been exhausted or are otherwise unavailable. A nation should go to war only when it has to — and even then, ending the conflict as expeditiously as possible should be an imperative.
     
    Shallow and superficial.

    With the basics so wrong the rest is pointless.
    Feels good, though. A good starting point for online therapy.I"ll pass.

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”

    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.

    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).

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    Nice.
    Agree, of course.
    Didn't want to go that path on this site. Tried a couple of times and, let's say that the level of misunderstanding was staggering.
    Getting phylosophical, or even deep into human very makeup, well, this isn't the place.

    ...because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I'll say just one thing.
    I had my own war. Apparently, it was really a very bad one, by everybody's account.
    I just know one thing: I never felt so alive then and there. Nothing compares. Nothing......
    All elements of life itself were on the level I've never felt after that. The scent of air, intensity of sounds, taste of food and drinks, sleep, rest, comradeship, well...everything was 100 %. Nothing in civilian life compares. Nothing. Well, one thing only, actually.Won't say what.
    Crazy a?
    Or....hehe.....poor civilians, "chattering class" in particular.

    If we want to get analytical now, the same applies to groups. A couple of mates, together, in war. A small community...larger community.....etc....etc.
    Anyway.


    I’ve noticed you absent from Revusky’s last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).
     
    Read some of the article, skimmed through some parts. Read some comments; got surprised by, say, "internal workings" of this site. Too much personal bullshit and politics if you ask me.
    As for the topic itself, well, got that video about Pentagon plane, so here I am:
    Before reading some stuff on this site (thank you guys, a couple only, of course) I thought one thing.
    Now I am inclined to think otherwise.
    Two things:
    I buy, 70/30 that the buildings, all of three of them, did collapse due to a peculiar combination of how they were built with how and with what they were hit, plus the rest. So, no demolitions.
    Second, Pentagon plane. That video, well....so, again, I believe that a plane (the plane) hit Pentagon.

    Now, did the government know that hijacking was going to happen, I am sure some parts of the intelligence community/security apparatus did. Was it intentionally not prevented, don't think so. I go with incompetence and organizational culture there.

    That the event was manipulated and used for the Deep State goals, of course.
    I am sure that as soon some of them knew what was happening they started calculating and acting.
    Having said all this, I really don't want to get into debate about that. I mean...done around zillion times already.

    One more thing.
    Mentioned my little war. So, can't get emotionally involved into 9/11. What Americans see as a terrible thing re loss of life, limb and property, guys like me see "and.....?".
    I am widely known as Russia hater here. So.. this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
    is, in my book, worse than 9/11.
    Much worse.
    And, to add insult to the injury, only this


    2004

    In September 2004, following bombing attacks on two aircraft and the downtown Moscow Metro, Chechen terrorists seized over 1,000 hostages at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia.
     

    is on the Wikipedia site re "Terrorism in Russia". Not even a fucking link.
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  • @Kafka
    Great article. This piece by a guest author on the Saker blog makes a good addition to this piece. It puts the issue in a moral context:

    http://thesaker.is/ask-yourselves-are-we-the-bad-guys/

    It is an excellent article, but please, don’t sully it with The Saker.

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  • @Anon
    LOL this guy wants us to treat the OHCHR seriously. I bet he thinks the Canadian CHRC is also a legitimate body we should all defer to.

    "we can talk turkey." OK let's. Your irrelevant and (frankly insulting to our intelligence) commentary spoken as some UN plutocrat treating the US and Haiti as equal with equal standards is about as dumb as the gentleman above who wants us to think "half the US population has hispanic roots" or that we never "USA diversity never made room for the native americans".

    Your slimy globalism is showing, Pooftareader, no matter how many times you try to use expressions like "Arab headchoppers" to try, in your wormy manner, to fit in with how you think dissident nationalists talk.

    So. The fact that the USA fails to meet the standards applied to Haiti and every other country means… What, that the USA deserves special eeeasy American self-esteeeem standards? “Here’s your gold sticker, Jimmy, everybody’s a winner in the the Special Yooman Rights Olympics!!” Face it, your police state stuffed your helpless masses down a shithole.

    Globalism…? Get it straight, globalism is different than the old-school Eastern seaboard internationalism you just encountered, which upsets you so.

    What exactly is your hardon for the OHCHR? They put your government on the spot in a way that your media doesn’t dare do, that your legislature doesn’t dare do, that your civil society doesn’t dare do. They’ve got more balls than your entire subject population. You obviously need their help, since you can’t escape your patriotic icecreamhole.

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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace.

    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”

    War is evil. Large-scale, state-sanctioned violence is justified only when all other means of achieving genuinely essential objectives have been exhausted or are otherwise unavailable. A nation should go to war only when it has to — and even then, ending the conflict as expeditiously as possible should be an imperative.

    Shallow and superficial.

    With the basics so wrong the rest is pointless.
    Feels good, though. A good starting point for online therapy.I”ll pass.

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    No.
    “War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
     
    You and the author simplify a bit; here is some context; you can find more context if you care.

    As, then, there may be life without pain, while there cannot be pain without some kind of life, so there may be peace without war, but there cannot be war without some kind of peace, because war supposes the existence of some natures to wage it, and these natures cannot exist without peace of one kind or other.
     
    I've noticed you absent from Revusky's last thread; probably a wise decision on your part. But your input would be interesting if you have any (no need to read the piece in its entirety or more than the first few comments).
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  • @Anon
    in the post-Cold War era when the relative strength of U.S. forces reached its zenith, our well-endowed, well-trained, well-equipped, and highly disciplined troops have proven unable to accomplish any of the core tasks to which they’ve been assigned. This has been especially true since 9/11.

    But this is false. US has militarily succeeded around the world in invasions and winning wars.
    But the military cannot build new systems. Its purpose is to destroy. Military can invade, military can bomb, military can kill. But it was not designed to heal and build. Sure, there are military engineers that are into logistics and etc. but military isn't meant to build anything permanent.

    So, US military fulfills its missions all over the world. It drops bombs, invades, kills people, and etc.
    It is very successful at all that. Now, if the US were to return after the battles or wars, no problem.
    But the US plan is to STAY,and that's where the problem comes in. The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It's not the military that is deciding to stay forever.

    Consider a doctor. A doctor can cut flesh and do stuff inside the body, BUT he cannot heal the patient. He can only set things right(like broken bones) or remove organs. Once he stitches the patient and removes his invasive presence from the organs of the patient, the healing must happen internally by the body itself. A doctor can only set bones together. For the bones to heal, an organic process must take place independent of the doctor. A doctor an remove an object from the body. But the healing has to be happen by natural processes of the body. So, a doctor can cut open a patient and invasively do stuff inside the body. But once his job is finished, he must stitch up the flesh and let the body heal itself.

    US military is the same way. It can invade and take out 'bad guys', but then, it must move out and allow the nation to heal and reorder itself by its own accord. But the US keeps the wound open. The surgery never ends. So, the body cannot heal by its own accord.

    Worse, US targets the wrong 'patients' for sickness. US relies on the Zionist quack to decide which nations are sick and need to be operated on. Obviously, the quack Zionist never says anything is wrong with Israel. Oh no. The sick puppies are Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. or any nation hated by Jews.
    But, as the saying goes, "don't fix what isn't broken". It was US foreign policy and war-making that made those nations even worse. Also, the US intervention can make things much worse by removing the regulator. Assad's regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose. It's like cutting upon a body and messing with the functioning of the heart or liver. The whole system begins to fall apart. US strategists and big thinkers are quacks or third-rate medical scientists. What they often identify as the disease turns out to be the crucial organ holding the nation together. Gaddafi's regime looked gross and sick(and it was), but despite its grotesqueness, it was the key organ/regulator that held the nation together. Imagine a doctor cutting open someone and taking out intestines as being 'full of shit'. So, will the patient be better since the shit-filled organ has been removed from the body? Of course not. As ugly as intestines are, they are crucial. And Gaddafi's regime was crucial in a desert nation of so many clans. And Assad is the necessary organ of Syria. Of course, the evil Zionist doctor knows this. But it calls for removal of or harm done to the organ because it wants to see a permanently crippled and sick Syria.

    Another thing. Bacevitch is wrong to focus on the military. I can understand why because he's a military historian.

    But the real power is not with the military. After all, if the US were all about military power and ambitions, then war with ANY nation will do for US aggression and foreign ventures. US could make a case that Israel is a rogue state that occupies West Bank, stole Golan Heights, kills Gazans, and spies on the US.
    Or US can cook up any excuse to go to war with Venezuela, Bolivia, black Africa, and etc. There are plenty of cruddy nations.
    But notice that the US military only barks and bites at nations hated by Jews.

    So, Jews have the power over the military because military is under civilian authority that has been bought up by or manned with Jewish power.

    There was some human rights fuss about something in Burma... Why isn't the US military moving over there?
    Mexico has tons of drug lords who commit murder and sell drugs to the US. Why isn't US waging on Mexico?

    All the US wars and aggressions are against nations hated by Jews.

    So, while the Military Industrial Complex may enjoy saber-rattling and wars, it has no agency and autonomy. Its enemies must be chosen by The Power. It's like dogs like to hunt, but the master gets to choose what animal shall be hunted: rabbits, foxes, pigs, deer, etc.

    Excellent points, Anon !

    To this one:

    Assad’s regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose.

    I would add the following: this is true if you assume that the de-stabilization was inadvertent. It seems much more likely that we’re only at the beginning of the greater Israel project, which will be built on the mountain of corpses we’re right now engaged in creating for them.

    We will destroy all their neighbors, while the US and Europe are being flooded by waves of migrants to keep everyone’s attention close to home. We will keep provoking Russia and later China to keep the world attention focused on the risk of its own demise.

    And then, Israel will make its moves, massacring and ethnically cleansing the Palestinians, securing from its neighbors all the resources of oil, gas, and water in order to amass all the necessary accouterments of a major regional power.

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  • @Washington Wobert
    Detailed contemporary accounts by mid-level military seem to have been scrubbed off the web. Here's a start:

    https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/09/baghdads-neutron-bomb-and-americas-nuclear-obama/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/15/vt-nuclear-education-nukes-in-iraq-confirmation/

    Looking at it, Comment 52 is not clear about the sequence. The Battle of Baghdad was during the second US war of aggression against Iraq.

    Thank you, Wobert.

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  • @Anon
    It’s an arrogant comment. What the author wants is to reinstate the draft.

    Let those who want college tuition and free medical care enlist and get it. Let those who want to stay out of the military stays out.

    What the author wants I don’t know, but a great part of what he wrote is Empire’s propaganda or outright nonsense, as other commentators also pointed out. The rest is more or less OK. For example, all the part about the “petulant, overarmed, misbehaved Russia” and Murica’s best-in-world-history military are BS propaganda.

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  • Mr. Bacevich, thank you for a great article that has given me much food for thought. One quibble: We should’ve used the atom bomb in Korea. Eastern cultures perceive restraint as weakness. We set a very bad precedent by not using the bomb, one which contributed to our losing Vietnam (where we shouldn’t have been).

    We failed, to varying degrees, to achieve our objectives in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan because the enemy engaged in fourth-generation warfare. In all three cases they knew that we’d leave eventually and that they emphatically weren’t leaving. They just had to wait us out.

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  • @Mike P

    The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It’s not the military that is deciding to stay forever.
     
    The failure to rebuild functioning nation states and the "need" for continuous occupation are not bugs but features. The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with "fighting terror" or "spreading democracy and freedom" - it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China. Afghanistan cannot be allowed to make its own decisions in this matter, so it must endure the occupation.

    Excellent point, Mike!

    It’s all about keeping every country in check and scared so no one here or there ever starts to ask: ‘what the hell are we doing ?’ and ‘what have we done ?’

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  • Well-written article, but Andrew Bacevich avoids (as usual) examining–or even mentioning–(1) the massive money, (2) entrenched political machinery, and (3) intellectual sleight-of-hand which funds, formulates, and justifies Washington’s lopsided and murderous Mideast ‘foreign policies’.

    Shall we count the bodies together, Andrew?

    Iraq, for instance, was a functioning and rising society before Zio-American forces went in there and annihilated it. Millions died or were wounded. Millions more have been displaced. Chaos came next.

    Shouldn’t the perpetrators be identified and punished, Mr. Bacevich?

    Any thoughts on crime and punishment?

    In the meantime, let’s see if we can detect a pattern in all this.

    Here’s the hit list:

    Anti-Zionist Iraq: Crushed and neutralized. Anti-Zionist Syria: In ruins. Anti-Zionist Palestine: Under siege and in permanent lockdown. Anti-Zionist Libya: Dismembered and neutralized. And (coming soon): Death, misery and mayhem delivered to pro-Palestinian (and anti-Zionist) Lebanon and pro-Palestinian (anti-Zionist) Iran.

    Is there a pattern here?–(one that Mr. Bacevich failed to notice)

    Perhaps.

    Are there pro-Zionist fingerprints in this crime scene?

    Oh, maybe.

    With entire nations destroyed, does this massive destruction not have the appearance of a criminal enterprise?

    Possibly.

    But support our troops!

    Bibi was right when he (privately) whispered to a concerned Israeli: “Don’t worry about America. America can be moved.”

    So true.

    America has certainly been ‘moved’.

    We are headed over a cliff!

    But Bacevich barely notices. His ‘scholarship’ is typical of the Zionist-friendly, PC drivel that emanates from ‘TomDispatch’.

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.

    Can we talk about it?

    Death, discord and destruction (of Israel’s foes) is the objective.

    So from an Israeli perspective, things are going very well in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Palestine.

    Israel is rising. Her foes are sinking.

    America’s ‘military disasters’ are just what the Jewish doctor ordered. Mission accomplished!

    Yet all Bacevich can finally say is that America’s all-volunteer army is “the root cause of our predicament”.

    Are we to take this man seriously?

    What about Israel’s de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about ‘patterns’ of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?

    Maybe next article, eh?

    Bacevich as presented his readers a huge puzzle which he is determined not to solve. Perhaps that’s his objective.

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    Great post, just what I think.
    , @Rurik

    Fact: Zio-Washington is on a prolonged, blood-soaked, trillion-dollar killing spree.
     
    multi-trillion dollar killing spree

    What about Israel’s de facto ownership of the US Congress, Andrew?

    Any thoughts about ‘patterns’ of ownership of American mass media, Mr. Bacevich?
     
    Bacevich is a rank whore

    an unctuous, gaping gash, undulating in yawning anticipation for copious and well-earned wampum.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHn6tDG1Vfc
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  • @Jake
    The reason that US militarism is so frightening is that like its parent English imperialism it is insatiable and the very definition of self-righteous and features a world class ability to lie and deceive.

    British imperialism was not so frightening.
    Britain was and is a small country, that never had the resources the USA has.
    British colonial wars were small, and not costly in money, except before WWI the Boer War.
    Ian Hernon, ‘Britain’s Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century’, 2003, 2007, Chalford – Stroud
    Even the Boers, with a few cannon, and just rifles, were a formidable opponent.
    The natives were no match at all for repeater rifles, shrapnel cannon, or battleships.
    The British empire could exist through bluff, manipulation, bribes, diplomacy.
    WWI changed all that.
    Germany was not a bunch of natives with spears and muskets.
    WWII was the end of the British empire, thanks to Churchill:
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    As far as I know the book just was published as german translation, I suppose no British publisher dared to publish the original by British historian Charmley.
    That Churchill was not a hero, but an undertaker, it cannot be true.

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  • @gwynedd1
    I recall another crisply formulated aphorism that came from a German I had briefly come to know when I was rather young. I remember a few things like his preference Silvaner over Riesling. The most memorable thing was a German explaining to me a method that prevents tyranny which is drafted armies.

    The Vietnam war can be know for three things at least. One is it was the last draft we had during war; it was remarkable in the freedom of the press; and it was hence a very unpopular war that was actually being won on the battle field. Well, they were not going to make those mistakes again.

    Laugh —- and

    laughing.

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  • @The Scalpel
    "The troops are asked to sacrifice;...."

    Really? What sacrifice? The troops are welfare queens living a socialist lifestyle. Everything paid for, everything taken care of by the taxpayer. The taxpayers serve the troops if anything. If the troops sacrifice anything, they sacrifice their conscience, that is, if they had one to begin with, which quite likely they did not or they never would have volunteered.

    Here is the deal:

    Mr. Troop, you do whatever we tell you and don't ask any questions and we will pay for everything - food, housing, travel to exotic places, adventure, people constantly kissing your a**. The job is a little dangerous, but no more dangerous than many other jobs you might take for less money, no free health care, no special shopping centers, no free travel, no one kissing your a**, but you having to kiss others'.

    The problem with the armed forces is that members get far more benefits and respect than they deserve. Take that away, and hardly anyone would join up for those somewhat dangerous ridiculous endeavors. The other problems would then solve themselves. Good ole supply and demand.

    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.

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    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.
     
    My dad, who is a WWII veteran in his 90’s, saw heavy combat and received a Purple Heart and still has shrapnel in him from a Japanese grenade. He hates to be thanked for his service and never stands in church on Veterans Day weekend when they ask for veterans to stand. He thinks this glorification of people who “served” is total ludicrous and they should not get any benefits or preference for it. He said no one ever mentioned being in the war, and especially not simply being in the military, when he was younger.
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  • @Mike P

    No one was surprised when Saddam annihilated the 3/7 Cav and fought the 3rd Infantry to a standstill in Baghdad ... until the US could drop a NWC-illegal neutron bomb
     
    That's the first time I hear about this. Are there some good sources to confirm/learn more about it?

    Detailed contemporary accounts by mid-level military seem to have been scrubbed off the web. Here’s a start:

    https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/09/baghdads-neutron-bomb-and-americas-nuclear-obama/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/15/vt-nuclear-education-nukes-in-iraq-confirmation/

    Looking at it, Comment 52 is not clear about the sequence. The Battle of Baghdad was during the second US war of aggression against Iraq.

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    Thank you, Wobert.
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  • Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Your Proofreader
    Errata:

    "War is evil/wrong/stupid/." No, war is criminal. See Rome Statute Articles 8 bis, 15 bis and 15 ter, which restate universal jurisdiction law for an independent jurisdiction. Use of force in manifest breach of the UN Charter is the gravest crime.

    "Now, the nation that has created this military system is not some 'shithole country.'" Yes it is. For your convenience OHCHR has compiled a handy comparative shithole map that clearly shows that your country is the biggest, most bouyant turd in the underdevelopment shithole, bobbing and reeking with Myanmar, Arab headchoppers, and a few atavistic African presidents-for-life. The big picture is apt to trigger indoctrinated reactions of dismissal, but you can drill down and examine the exhaustive supporting documentation compiled by independent experts and domestic civil society.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    "We need a military system that accurately prioritizes actual and emerging threats." No we don't. The US government's fixation on threats is how the military metastasizes. Furthermore, we don't need a military system at all. Costa Rica does just fine without one, and they're a softer target than the US.

    "The root cause of our predicament is the all-volunteer force." So, you're going to fix our criminal-aggression 'predicament' by forcing every adult to fight with criminal penalties for non-compliance? This is how cognitive dissidence causes rational people to stop following their logical nose and veer off into idiocy.

    So now that we've cleared away the cruft of residual state indoctrination with which Bacevich is valiantly struggling, we can talk turkey. The solution is simple. We need a law 'n order president. The law and order the president enforces is to include UN Charter articles 2(4) and 51, ICCPR Article 20, and A/RES/25/2625. We had a president like that, JFK, but CIA shot him. Our next law 'n order president must first do what Jack Kennedy wanted to do, until CIA murdered him: break CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds. That is a regime change. So any future law 'n order president will by necessity be appointed by the victors of the last war our fatass loser military loses. The victors will impose command responsibility for US aggression (that in itself will decimate CIA and the flag ranks.) The victors will end CIA's COG state-of-emergency regime and replace this obsolete dead-letter constitution with the UN Charter, the core human rights instruments, the International Bill of Human Rights, and the Rome Statute.

    LOL this guy wants us to treat the OHCHR seriously. I bet he thinks the Canadian CHRC is also a legitimate body we should all defer to.

    “we can talk turkey.” OK let’s. Your irrelevant and (frankly insulting to our intelligence) commentary spoken as some UN plutocrat treating the US and Haiti as equal with equal standards is about as dumb as the gentleman above who wants us to think “half the US population has hispanic roots” or that we never “USA diversity never made room for the native americans”.

    Your slimy globalism is showing, Pooftareader, no matter how many times you try to use expressions like “Arab headchoppers” to try, in your wormy manner, to fit in with how you think dissident nationalists talk.

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    So. The fact that the USA fails to meet the standards applied to Haiti and every other country means... What, that the USA deserves special eeeasy American self-esteeeem standards? "Here's your gold sticker, Jimmy, everybody's a winner in the the Special Yooman Rights Olympics!!" Face it, your police state stuffed your helpless masses down a shithole.

    Globalism...? Get it straight, globalism is different than the old-school Eastern seaboard internationalism you just encountered, which upsets you so.

    What exactly is your hardon for the OHCHR? They put your government on the spot in a way that your media doesn't dare do, that your legislature doesn't dare do, that your civil society doesn't dare do. They've got more balls than your entire subject population. You obviously need their help, since you can't escape your patriotic icecreamhole.
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  • @EliteCommInc.
    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

    I must be stupid, because I don’t understand what you mean.

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  • “The root cause of our predicament is the all-volunteer force.”

    Just before WWI various reforms were made that made entering into and maintaining a war easier. Most notably direct election of senators and the federal reserve bank. If you are looking to root causes, start with those. While the direct election of senators did not stop the US from getting into wars, it does seem to have made maintaining the war difficult or even impossible.

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  • @Dogs of war
    The USA has inherited the pirate genes of England , plus the brutal genes of militaristic germans , thats all for " diversity " .

    USA " diversity " never made room for the native americans , for the hispanic roots of half of the country ........

    Can’t tell if this a bad troll or you’re just very, very out of your depth at this website?

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  • @Antonio
    "I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior"

    I stopped reading here.

    It’s an arrogant comment. What the author wants is to reinstate the draft.

    Let those who want college tuition and free medical care enlist and get it. Let those who want to stay out of the military stays out.

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    What the author wants I don't know, but a great part of what he wrote is Empire's propaganda or outright nonsense, as other commentators also pointed out. The rest is more or less OK. For example, all the part about the "petulant, overarmed, misbehaved Russia" and Murica's best-in-world-history military are BS propaganda.
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  • “The troops are asked to sacrifice;….”

    Really? What sacrifice? The troops are welfare queens living a socialist lifestyle. Everything paid for, everything taken care of by the taxpayer. The taxpayers serve the troops if anything. If the troops sacrifice anything, they sacrifice their conscience, that is, if they had one to begin with, which quite likely they did not or they never would have volunteered.

    Here is the deal:

    Mr. Troop, you do whatever we tell you and don’t ask any questions and we will pay for everything – food, housing, travel to exotic places, adventure, people constantly kissing your a**. The job is a little dangerous, but no more dangerous than many other jobs you might take for less money, no free health care, no special shopping centers, no free travel, no one kissing your a**, but you having to kiss others’.

    The problem with the armed forces is that members get far more benefits and respect than they deserve. Take that away, and hardly anyone would join up for those somewhat dangerous ridiculous endeavors. The other problems would then solve themselves. Good ole supply and demand.

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    I go to baseball games regularly at the local university, and whenever a member of the U.S. military is identified as being in the audience he stands on the home dugout and receives a rousing two-minute standing ovation from virtually ever one of the roughly 3,500 souls assembled. It is beyond bizarre, especially for someone who was on campus during Vietnam. And quite scary.
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  • @Washington Wobert
    Tom Dispatch left gatekeeping is like confirmation. A bunch of horny adolescents straggle into church holding prayer books in front of their out-of-control erumpent boners and say ridiculous nonsense in public. But Tom Dispatch goes beyond ordinary ridiculous nonsense like the holy spirit's gonna get me, or I'm gonna commit cannibalism on christ:

    "By common consent, the United States today has the world’s best military"

    Where to begin? Back before the first Iraq war, this former death merchant modeled the industrial base for modern munitions. Long story short, it was pitifully inadequate. Any real mobilization would grind to a halt to retool extensive civilian assets, diverting resources at the cost, if you're lucky, of a severe recession (if you're outa luck inflation spikes too.) Static analysis with Leontief models show this. The dynamics are worse.

    When the US regime went to war anyway, the inevitable happened. We all watched rusty national guard artillery get towed, not to the scrapyard where it belonged, but to the nearest airbase to blow up and get dumped in Iraq. No one was surprised when Saddam annihilated the 3/7 Cav and fought the 3rd Infantry to a standstill in Baghdad (That's partly because no one was allowed to know about it. Massive OPSEC saved the day by hiding the rout from the US public until the US could drop a NWC-illegal neutron bomb.) Then the recession hit and our DCI head of state got canned. Then came a decade-long genocidal blockade, then the troops took a mulligan and the USA lost again - this time to Iran, who wasn't even fighting.

    The defense industrial base is now hollower and crookeder than ever. Institutionalized graft keeps it going as productivity decays. Russia just put it out of its misery.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/23/proven-americas-f35-junk-against-russia-syria/

    Common consent. I got your common consent here in my pants.

    No one was surprised when Saddam annihilated the 3/7 Cav and fought the 3rd Infantry to a standstill in Baghdad … until the US could drop a NWC-illegal neutron bomb

    That’s the first time I hear about this. Are there some good sources to confirm/learn more about it?

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    Detailed contemporary accounts by mid-level military seem to have been scrubbed off the web. Here's a start:

    https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/09/baghdads-neutron-bomb-and-americas-nuclear-obama/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/15/vt-nuclear-education-nukes-in-iraq-confirmation/

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  • @SolontoCroesus

    The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts.
     
    ha

    Ask Hester Prynne.

    Puritans had a keen sense of psychological violence.
    It's still violence.
    The mouthpieces of god who mandated that violence still operated on the proposition, "Damn it, I am in charge."

    Puritans are basically antisocials , they are against human beings ( and thus against God )

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  • At one time, the US Military’s purpose and mission was thought to involve the defense of the territorial integrity of the United States of America as defined by its borders and the Constitution.

    Over time, the mission was perceived to be that of policing the world for the cause of democracy and the very democratic profits of transnational corporations and international finance.

    Now, it is self-evident that the primary mission of the US military, the greatest and most invincible in all of history, has always been to defend the right to commit sodomy and those of men who want to be women and women who want to be men. Nothing else matters.

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  • @gwynedd1
    I recall another crisply formulated aphorism that came from a German I had briefly come to know when I was rather young. I remember a few things like his preference Silvaner over Riesling. The most memorable thing was a German explaining to me a method that prevents tyranny which is drafted armies.

    The Vietnam war can be know for three things at least. One is it was the last draft we had during war; it was remarkable in the freedom of the press; and it was hence a very unpopular war that was actually being won on the battle field. Well, they were not going to make those mistakes again.

    Interestingly, the German mandatory military service, which used to be treated like a sacred cow by much of the public and by all parties represented in parliament, was very suddenly and unceremoniously terminated by Merkel and defence minister Guttenberg in 2011. Both have shown pretty clear signs of being US deep state assets. To her credit, however, Merkel has allowed the German forces to sink into abject decrepitude, to that they really are of no use whatsoever to the U.S. military adventurists.

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  • @Fran Macadam
    One fiendish way to neutralize the good counsel of those against these wars, is to state all the many obvious and provable negative motives, properties and consequences of war - but then, sum up by blaming it on "The Joos."

    Adding up the events of recent history, it would appear that that sum is the correct one.

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  • @myself
    I peg it as collective American, and by extension collective Western, insanity.

    We're not going to cure ourselves - we should be in the civilization equivalent of a straight-jacket, barring that, maybe we should be put out of our misery.

    And BTW, the older generations to whom I've spoken mostly know what's what. They know in their gut that their societies and their children have no future, and most are banking on being dead when the predictable collapse occurs.

    Yup, the Boomers do not give a shit, and just want to live comfortably and then die. We are now at the end game.

    Give it 20 years, maximum. 20 years - a blink of an eye in historical terms.

    I suspect that the government’s fear of societal collapse – brought on by the impending collapse of the petrodollar, which the Empire is in vain trying to ward off by its perpetual wars in the Middle East and its feeble attempts at economic war on China – is behind the recent push for disarming the public. The prospect of a fully armed populace rioting in the streets is indeed a scary one.

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  • A small volunteer force is perfectly adequate for defending the USA (its constitutional role) and worked fine until our overlords decided to create an American Empire. By doing so they have wasted our great geographical blessing of being “surrounded by oceans and weaklings” (per Bismarck).

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  • anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Any war failing to yield peace is purposeless and, if purposeless, both wrong and stupid.

    What about the most common example of war for the purpose of plunder and material gain? The morality of “wrong” doesn’t enter into it and ultimate peace may or may not be a goal.
    It’s not the fault of the military that Afghans haven’t all cooperated with their occupation. They’ve done the job assigned to them but impossible jobs are, after all, impossible. It’s a military-political pipe-dream that was created by the incompetents of the Bush years and the political part is unattainable.

    Madeleine Albright said it best: “If we have to use force, it is because we are America

    I like this “we” part. That evil witch certainly never risked herself but sent other people’s children into the cauldron. There’s no “we” in all this. The upper echelon sacrifices the small fry and their lives mean nothing to them.

    Having outsourced responsibility for defending the country

    They’re not defending the country, that’s mind-boggling propaganda. There’s so much delusion here that one could go through this article line-by-line and dissect it. I’m off this “support our troops” wagon. It’s just a fiction; you sign up, you know the risks.

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    They’re not defending the country, that’s mind-boggling propaganda.
     
    Indeed. The last Americans to die defending their country were the Confederate soldiers who died defending theirs. All others died for the US empire, including Union forces who died while making the South it's first victim.
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  • Tom Dispatch left gatekeeping is like confirmation. A bunch of horny adolescents straggle into church holding prayer books in front of their out-of-control erumpent boners and say ridiculous nonsense in public. But Tom Dispatch goes beyond ordinary ridiculous nonsense like the holy spirit’s gonna get me, or I’m gonna commit cannibalism on christ:

    “By common consent, the United States today has the world’s best military”

    Where to begin? Back before the first Iraq war, this former death merchant modeled the industrial base for modern munitions. Long story short, it was pitifully inadequate. Any real mobilization would grind to a halt to retool extensive civilian assets, diverting resources at the cost, if you’re lucky, of a severe recession (if you’re outa luck inflation spikes too.) Static analysis with Leontief models show this. The dynamics are worse.

    When the US regime went to war anyway, the inevitable happened. We all watched rusty national guard artillery get towed, not to the scrapyard where it belonged, but to the nearest airbase to blow up and get dumped in Iraq. No one was surprised when Saddam annihilated the 3/7 Cav and fought the 3rd Infantry to a standstill in Baghdad (That’s partly because no one was allowed to know about it. Massive OPSEC saved the day by hiding the rout from the US public until the US could drop a NWC-illegal neutron bomb.) Then the recession hit and our DCI head of state got canned. Then came a decade-long genocidal blockade, then the troops took a mulligan and the USA lost again – this time to Iran, who wasn’t even fighting.

    The defense industrial base is now hollower and crookeder than ever. Institutionalized graft keeps it going as productivity decays. Russia just put it out of its misery.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/23/proven-americas-f35-junk-against-russia-syria/

    Common consent. I got your common consent here in my pants.

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    No one was surprised when Saddam annihilated the 3/7 Cav and fought the 3rd Infantry to a standstill in Baghdad ... until the US could drop a NWC-illegal neutron bomb
     
    That's the first time I hear about this. Are there some good sources to confirm/learn more about it?
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  • I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.

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    I must be stupid, because I don’t understand what you mean.
    , @Carroll Price
    Indeed, it would cure the primary dynamic in question practically over-night.
    , @SteveM

    I am an unashamed advocate of the draft to ameliorate the primary dynamic in question.
     
    The best way to "ameliorate the primary dynamic in question" is to mandate that the arrogant DC nitwits read the foreign policy sections of George Washington's Farewell Address first thing every day. Have C-SPAN televise the reading every day that Congress is in session.

    Then maybe those militarist clowns will eventually put 2 and 2 together without the need to draft American citizens into militarized slavery.
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  • I recall another crisply formulated aphorism that came from a German I had briefly come to know when I was rather young. I remember a few things like his preference Silvaner over Riesling. The most memorable thing was a German explaining to me a method that prevents tyranny which is drafted armies.

    The Vietnam war can be know for three things at least. One is it was the last draft we had during war; it was remarkable in the freedom of the press; and it was hence a very unpopular war that was actually being won on the battle field. Well, they were not going to make those mistakes again.

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    Interestingly, the German mandatory military service, which used to be treated like a sacred cow by much of the public and by all parties represented in parliament, was very suddenly and unceremoniously terminated by Merkel and defence minister Guttenberg in 2011. Both have shown pretty clear signs of being US deep state assets. To her credit, however, Merkel has allowed the German forces to sink into abject decrepitude, to that they really are of no use whatsoever to the U.S. military adventurists.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Laugh ---- and

    laughing.
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  • @ploni almoni
    If you stop reading something then you are a case of arrested development. Which is what the Deep State wants.

    Huh??? I highly doubt the deep state wants me to stop reading their propaganda.

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  • @Catiline
    Partisan divisions over the military reflect much deeper cultural factors. “From the quasi-war with France [1798-1800] to the Vietnam war,” writes historian David Hackett Fischer, “the two southern cultures strongly supported every American war no matter what it was about or who it was against. Southern ideas of honour and the warrior ethic combined to create regional war fevers of great intensity in 1798, 1812, 1846, 1861, 1898, 1941, 1950 and 1965.” At the same time, the greater New England region has been home to the most intense opposition to American foreign wars-including the second world war. For 50 years, liberal American historians have spoken of “right-wing isolationists” but the fact is that most isolationists in the 1930s were liberals or leftists. Ironically, Roosevelt found the strongest supporters for his anti-Hitler foreign policy among racist Southern conservatives, who hated New Deal liberalism but were eager to save Britain and defeat Germany. The isolationist America First committee was a miserable failure in the south.

    As the southern states have gone Republican in recent years, so has America’s military, in which southern whites have always been over-represented. In November 2000, during the electoral college crisis, Democratic party operatives in the contested state of Florida tried to disqualify, on technical grounds, as many overseas ballots from US military personnel as they could, on the correct assumption that American soldiers are overwhelmingly Republican.

    What explains the deeply-ingrained military ethic of southerners-and the equally intense anti-military sentiments of greater New Englanders? Again, culture is the answer. The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts. The southern cavalier code, however, endorsed violence when personal or national honour was being “disrespected” or “dissed.” According to the sociologists Richard E Nisbet and Dov Cohen, although white southerners are no more likely than northern whites to kill strangers for money, they are much more likely to kill spouses, lovers, friends, and acquaintances who have insulted them. These differences explain why southern states have higher rates of homicide-and more executions. Most black Americans share southern culture (and the Latin American culture of honour is very similar). When murders committed by blacks and Latinos are not counted, the anthropologist Marvin Harris has observed, “America’s rates of violent crime are much closer to the rates found in Japan.” If southern whites were then subtracted from the murder figures, the US murder rate would be lower still.

    All of this means that the talk in recent years about a supposed “resurgence of right-wing isolationism” is misleading. Many commentators have found themselves confused by the ambitious liberal interventionism of Clinton and Gore and the right-wing isolationism of Patrick Buchanan. But neither Clinton nor Buchanan are typical of their parties. Buchanan has little influence on the Republican right, which has repudiated his isolationism as well as his protectionism. Clinton, like Gore, emerged from the shrinking southern conservative wing of the Democratic party. His southern-style interventionism was supported by many Jewish liberals who want a US forward military presence capable of protecting Israel and who viewed Serbia’s ethnic cleansing in the Balkans as a replay of the Holocaust. But the interventionist sentiments of Jewish liberals are not shared by other groups in the Democratic electoral base, like Yankees, Germanic Americans and blacks.

    This is why Europeans and Asians who believe that the Democrats will be more “internationalist” than the Republicans are mistaken. True, liberal Yankees are more in favour of constructive engagement with international institutions and norms than their southern rivals: compare the support of Clinton and Gore for the Kyoto treaty with George W Bush’s hostility to UN peacekeeping missions. But when the US uses military power-unilaterally or as part of an alliance like Nato-the fiercest opposition always comes from left-wing Democrats. Republicans may not like open-ended peace-keeping operations in the Balkans, but where US and allied security interests are clearly at stake, as in the Persian Gulf or the Taiwan Strait, they are hawks. By contrast, much of the Democratic left denounced Clinton as a war criminal during the Kosovo war. If a Republican president had led the Nato effort in the Balkans, most Democrats in Congress would probably have opposed it, just as most congressional Democrats voted against the Gulf war. Tony Blair may not like their thinking on domestic politics, but if he wants a strong Anglo-American alliance then his natural allies will be found among Anglophile Virginia Republicans, not among pacifist Democrats in Massachusetts or Oregon.

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/americastribes

    The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts.

    ha

    Ask Hester Prynne.

    Puritans had a keen sense of psychological violence.
    It’s still violence.
    The mouthpieces of god who mandated that violence still operated on the proposition, “Damn it, I am in charge.”

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    Puritans are basically antisocials , they are against human beings ( and thus against God )
    , @jacques sheete
    Interesting that quote is what stood out to me as well. The Puritans could be some sadistic SOBs by what I understand of their history. Their treatment of their fellow "Christians" including Quakers was a bit creative and not exactly gentle.

    Here's someone commenting on their furious nuttiness.:

    The Puritans are almost always portrayed as a peaceful and persecuted bunch, but they were a very revolutionary, seditious, and violent people.:

    England was plunged into an environment of Puritan blood rage and unreasonable fundamentalism. In the words of Hume, “fanaticism had its own language, it was a new jargon invented by the fury and hypocrisy of the times.” The Puritans wanted “No king, no nobility,” and like every leftists or progressive, the Puritans wanted “universal equality.” To use the words of Hume, “it was, in short, necessary to fanaticize the people with notions of perfect equality, to assure the obedience of the masses, and gradually to form a coalition against the monarchy.”
    http://shoebat.com/2014/11/03/puritans-just-violent-muslims/
     
    Another source wrote this. (Sorry no link)

    The Puritans wanted to be free to establish a “Christian” theocracy. (A perverted one complete with Indian extermination, communist principles, a police state...)

     

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  • I was one of the first to sign up for the “All Volunteer Army”. It was only a two year commitment but the recruiters tried very hard to get me to enlist for three years.Two years is plenty of time to get to know what the army is like.
    The people in my Company (roughly two hundred) were mostly from the mid to lower socioeconomic orders. About half did not have high school degrees. Some were there because a judge gave them a deal too good to pass up. Some were there because a politician interceded on their behalf due to serious criminal records. Most were there for action and adventure to counteract boredom.
    The officers tried to scare us about the Russian menace even back then. So they sent us overseas to guard the German border in case the Russkies attacked.
    The food was good and I venture to say that most of these young people never had it so good in terms of food, clothing and comfort. But the understanding was that we would risk our lives for the cause of world peace, love and understanding.
    I always wondered why they never sent us to guard our own borders but always other borders. Our propaganda ministers were some of the best. These days the “Propaganda Matrix” we live in is all encompassing.
    Long live the “military Industrial Complex”. Hail Caesar.

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  • @Zumbuddi
    Pat Lang should've glanced at the comments to Bacevich's writings before he posted on Unz,

    The Unz commentariat refuses to be censored or to self-censor (thank you Ron Unz, 1000 X).

    UFers call BS when they smell it.

    Lang scurried back to his gated spiderhole & winged about "delusional" commenters at Unz.

    Don't let the door hit ya.

    The way I see it, they’re [both colonels] shaped by environment and recall Franz Fannon:

    “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief”

    This can be expected of non-professionals and even professionals that are ‘bought in.’ But when said parties are claiming to be dissident, stepping 1/2 way out of the perception bubble doesn’t cut it, either yourself open to what’s actually going on, get at least a little bit humble and stay with the learning curve, or your stuff can get stepped on.

    I did see Lang’s whining at ‘SST’ and he lost a lot of respect from your’s truly

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  • Anon[198] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    A “petulant, overarmed Russia” is a “security issue” for the U.S.? It would kind of seem to be the other way around.
     
    That's a real gagger. Glad I didn't waste time reading the article and instead jumped right to the comments.

    It's an old trick to blame others for what you're doing. E.g., the Reds, who openly advocated and agitated for permanent worldwide revolution, blamed the Nazis for wanting to take over the world.

    A couple of other examples,


    "Blame others for your own sins."
    J. V. Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907

     


    Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

     

    It’s interesting that the Soviets had a universal political ideology pretty much requiring world conquest/revolution, while the Nazis did not, yet the Nazis were successfully manipulated (or manipulated themselves, I don’t know which) into invading most of their neighbors. The Soviets did that too but got away with it* by hiding behind the Nazi conquests at the same time.

    *The Russian nation paid very heavily, though.

    Note: This comment form was autofilled with “Ron Unz” as commenter handle. That’s a mistake, I think?

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  • Syrian, Iraqi, and other terrorist groups have been de-funded, crushed, and no longer receive massive amounts of weapons from deceptive agencies. Sophisticated high tech information gathering is no longer routed to them. North Korea is no longer sending ICBMs over Japan, and hasn’t tested a nuke in some time. 1000′s of human traffickers have been arrested. The mainstream media is losing its viewer base. Alternative media is overcoming The Deep State’s efforts to censor it and is instead, continuing to grow rapidly. Solid, logical, scientific evidence is ever more being released to support the existence of a personal, benevolent, and vastly powerful Supreme Being. The ability to influence events by our perception and observation of Reality is being expanded by the Double Slit Experiments, Relativity’s basic dependency on the priority of the observer/ perceiver, and other evidence/ mathematically based science.
    I would say that the above and MUCH MUCH MORE gives belief to the idea that things are getting better and the Truth is ever more coming into our existence.
    It’s a great time to be alive!

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  • @jacques sheete

    Colonel, we haven’t had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947...
     
    Some would peg that almost a century prior or even earlier. The war of Northern bankers against Southern planters proved that the anti-federalists were correct in many ways.

    The constitution was a huge link in the chain around our necks.

    Rule of law? When did that ever happen?

    Partisan divisions over the military reflect much deeper cultural factors. “From the quasi-war with France [1798-1800] to the Vietnam war,” writes historian David Hackett Fischer, “the two southern cultures strongly supported every American war no matter what it was about or who it was against. Southern ideas of honour and the warrior ethic combined to create regional war fevers of great intensity in 1798, 1812, 1846, 1861, 1898, 1941, 1950 and 1965.” At the same time, the greater New England region has been home to the most intense opposition to American foreign wars-including the second world war. For 50 years, liberal American historians have spoken of “right-wing isolationists” but the fact is that most isolationists in the 1930s were liberals or leftists. Ironically, Roosevelt found the strongest supporters for his anti-Hitler foreign policy among racist Southern conservatives, who hated New Deal liberalism but were eager to save Britain and defeat Germany. The isolationist America First committee was a miserable failure in the south.

    As the southern states have gone Republican in recent years, so has America’s military, in which southern whites have always been over-represented. In November 2000, during the electoral college crisis, Democratic party operatives in the contested state of Florida tried to disqualify, on technical grounds, as many overseas ballots from US military personnel as they could, on the correct assumption that American soldiers are overwhelmingly Republican.

    What explains the deeply-ingrained military ethic of southerners-and the equally intense anti-military sentiments of greater New Englanders? Again, culture is the answer. The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts. The southern cavalier code, however, endorsed violence when personal or national honour was being “disrespected” or “dissed.” According to the sociologists Richard E Nisbet and Dov Cohen, although white southerners are no more likely than northern whites to kill strangers for money, they are much more likely to kill spouses, lovers, friends, and acquaintances who have insulted them. These differences explain why southern states have higher rates of homicide-and more executions. Most black Americans share southern culture (and the Latin American culture of honour is very similar). When murders committed by blacks and Latinos are not counted, the anthropologist Marvin Harris has observed, “America’s rates of violent crime are much closer to the rates found in Japan.” If southern whites were then subtracted from the murder figures, the US murder rate would be lower still.

    All of this means that the talk in recent years about a supposed “resurgence of right-wing isolationism” is misleading. Many commentators have found themselves confused by the ambitious liberal interventionism of Clinton and Gore and the right-wing isolationism of Patrick Buchanan. But neither Clinton nor Buchanan are typical of their parties. Buchanan has little influence on the Republican right, which has repudiated his isolationism as well as his protectionism. Clinton, like Gore, emerged from the shrinking southern conservative wing of the Democratic party. His southern-style interventionism was supported by many Jewish liberals who want a US forward military presence capable of protecting Israel and who viewed Serbia’s ethnic cleansing in the Balkans as a replay of the Holocaust. But the interventionist sentiments of Jewish liberals are not shared by other groups in the Democratic electoral base, like Yankees, Germanic Americans and blacks.

    This is why Europeans and Asians who believe that the Democrats will be more “internationalist” than the Republicans are mistaken. True, liberal Yankees are more in favour of constructive engagement with international institutions and norms than their southern rivals: compare the support of Clinton and Gore for the Kyoto treaty with George W Bush’s hostility to UN peacekeeping missions. But when the US uses military power-unilaterally or as part of an alliance like Nato-the fiercest opposition always comes from left-wing Democrats. Republicans may not like open-ended peace-keeping operations in the Balkans, but where US and allied security interests are clearly at stake, as in the Persian Gulf or the Taiwan Strait, they are hawks. By contrast, much of the Democratic left denounced Clinton as a war criminal during the Kosovo war. If a Republican president had led the Nato effort in the Balkans, most Democrats in Congress would probably have opposed it, just as most congressional Democrats voted against the Gulf war. Tony Blair may not like their thinking on domestic politics, but if he wants a strong Anglo-American alliance then his natural allies will be found among Anglophile Virginia Republicans, not among pacifist Democrats in Massachusetts or Oregon.

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/americastribes

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    The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts.
     
    ha

    Ask Hester Prynne.

    Puritans had a keen sense of psychological violence.
    It's still violence.
    The mouthpieces of god who mandated that violence still operated on the proposition, "Damn it, I am in charge."

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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    I peg it as collective American, and by extension collective Western, insanity.

    We’re not going to cure ourselves – we should be in the civilization equivalent of a straight-jacket, barring that, maybe we should be put out of our misery.

    And BTW, the older generations to whom I’ve spoken mostly know what’s what. They know in their gut that their societies and their children have no future, and most are banking on being dead when the predictable collapse occurs.

    Yup, the Boomers do not give a shit, and just want to live comfortably and then die. We are now at the end game.

    Give it 20 years, maximum. 20 years – a blink of an eye in historical terms.

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    I suspect that the government's fear of societal collapse - brought on by the impending collapse of the petrodollar, which the Empire is in vain trying to ward off by its perpetual wars in the Middle East and its feeble attempts at economic war on China - is behind the recent push for disarming the public. The prospect of a fully armed populace rioting in the streets is indeed a scary one.
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  • TG says:

    An interesting post. Agreed. Some other points.

    1. Despite massive propaganda to the contrary, the last presidential election the American people clearly voted against wasting trillions of dollars on endless pointless wars of choice, and for spending that money on ourselves. As usual, however, there is no true Democracy in the United States, and we continue to pursue the status quo, the people be damned. But while it gets virtually zero news coverage, yes, Americans in general do NOT like what is going on.

    2. One is reminded that massive citizen armies are a modern aberration. For most of recorded history, for better or worse, wars were fought by relatively few professional troops. It’s not new.

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  • @Mark James

    we count on these less affluent Americans to volunteer for military service

     

    Mondoweiss had an interesting piece recently stating that Baptists, Catholics, LDS contribute the highest personnel numbers --percentage wise-- to the Armed Services. While Methodists, Congregationalists, Jews the fewest. Even Muslims have a greater percentage than Jews (surprising...no).

    The point is that in as long as educational benefits, medical care (for life) and a notion of service as a noble calling continue to be valued by a significant portion of the poor/lower middle class, the wealthiest among us will have numbers to project militarily. And it won't be from their families.

    It was over ten years ago, and it said Buddhists were more represented than Jews, not Muslims. Muslims are as underrepresented as other overclass religions.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2006/08/the_true_defini/

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  • @anonymous
    Everything that I've read here sourced to TomDispatch sounds like something one might hear on NPR. If "Andrew J. Bacevich is trying to write a book about how we got Trump," then he might do well to look in the mirror.

    My best guess after reading this column is that he wants Uncle Sam to conscript my kids to

    - keep China from "rising"

    - be stationed in eastern Poland to glare across the border at "petulant and over-armed Russia"

    - wage a Great War On Climate Change

    But why? Notice the pronoun propaganda worthy of Pat Buchanan:

    "The root cause of our predicament is the all-volunteer force. Only when we ordinary citizens conclude that we have an obligation to contribute to the country’s defense will it become possible to devise a set of principles for raising, organizing, supporting, and employing U.S. forces that align with our professed values and our actual security requirements."

    Of course, the author would entrust these purported reforms to the Congress, which is going to rein in the Commander-In-Chief like it did back in [******].

    Many of "we ordinary citizens" have come to realize that nothing run from Washington -- especially military forces deployed outside "our" country -- has much to do "with our professed values and our actual security requirements." And it never, ever will.

    The idea is that an army of conscripts, that is, of citizens, may be a little more responsible than an army of unemployed robots. Before there was general conscription the military were a collection of psychopaths. General conscription diluted their preponderance in the armed forces. The use of a lottery to conscript during Vietnam was a device to stop protests.

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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    In other words “To take their stuff”. Why else have a “puppet regime”?

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    The purposes of America's fake wars are not complex. Its the desire of adolescents to be war heroes, ie the American version of the medieval saint, plus a lot of cowboy excitement from shooting off lots of guns and missiles. Add in the vast amounts of money and prestige the military engenders in adolescent or pubescent American society, and you end up with a gigantic bureaucracy desperate with the need for war, and the ability to create as many wars as it wants via its ownership of the media and political system. What happens to the invaded and regime changed victim country is largely irrelevant, as by that time the American war machine, grossly obese like everything else in America, has moved on to its next theater of excitement and thrills.
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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    "Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.”"
     
    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I'd go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn't changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty
     
    Just come out and say "Criminal." Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice
     
    Colonel, we haven't had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called "color of law." You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up
     
    That's just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it's our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia's Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we're rabid dogs. BTW if you're really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    "The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men..."
     
    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don't give a rat's a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here's the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel's article is a fail.

    Pat Lang should’ve glanced at the comments to Bacevich’s writings before he posted on Unz,

    The Unz commentariat refuses to be censored or to self-censor (thank you Ron Unz, 1000 X).

    UFers call BS when they smell it.

    Lang scurried back to his gated spiderhole & winged about “delusional” commenters at Unz.

    Don’t let the door hit ya.

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    The way I see it, they're [both colonels] shaped by environment and recall Franz Fannon:

    “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief”

    This can be expected of non-professionals and even professionals that are 'bought in.' But when said parties are claiming to be dissident, stepping 1/2 way out of the perception bubble doesn't cut it, either yourself open to what's actually going on, get at least a little bit humble and stay with the learning curve, or your stuff can get stepped on.

    I did see Lang's whining at 'SST' and he lost a lot of respect from your's truly
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  • @Mike P

    The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It’s not the military that is deciding to stay forever.
     
    The failure to rebuild functioning nation states and the "need" for continuous occupation are not bugs but features. The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with "fighting terror" or "spreading democracy and freedom" - it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China. Afghanistan cannot be allowed to make its own decisions in this matter, so it must endure the occupation.

    Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai believes Russia can play a decisive role in ending America’s longest war

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/ex-afghan-leader-karzai-sees-russia-as-key-to-peace-with-taliban

    With talk like this I’m sure the Western “intel” agencies are plotting to take Karzai out and replace him with another puppet.

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  • @Antonio
    "I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior"

    I stopped reading here.

    If you stop reading something then you are a case of arrested development. Which is what the Deep State wants.

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  • The military is being misused on Israels wars in the ME and elsewhere in the close to 800 bases around the world and Afghanistan where its job is to protect the CIA and MOSSAD and MI6 poppy fields.

    The military should be brought home and placed on the southern border and stop the national suicide by illegal and unlimted immigration and end this zionist NWO bullshit that is destroying America.

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  • @The Alarmist

    "By common consent, the United States today has the world’s best military. By some estimates, it may be the best in recorded history."
     
    Maybe for today, but for recorded history, the nod goes clearly to the Romans, who knew how to fight and conquer like Romans. We're just getting to our end-game via cheap imported labour and general societal decadence a bit faster than they.

    [Bacevich: ... best military evah ... ] Maybe for today, but for recorded history, the nod goes clearly to the Romans, who knew how to fight and conquer like Romans.

    The Roman armies are a good example, as are Ramses’ Egyptians, Cambyses’ Persians, Pausanias’ and Lysander’s Spartans, Epaminondas’ Thebans, Alexander’s Macedonians, Genghis’ Mongols, Peter the Great Russians, Napoleon’s French, Frederick’s and von Moltke’s Prussians … I could go on all day. Sure the US forces are the strongest right now, but within history, they are nothing special. In terms of bang for the buck, they are utterly pathetic, one reason being of course that the arms development and procurement agenda has been totally hijacked by corporate interests.

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  • @Anon
    in the post-Cold War era when the relative strength of U.S. forces reached its zenith, our well-endowed, well-trained, well-equipped, and highly disciplined troops have proven unable to accomplish any of the core tasks to which they’ve been assigned. This has been especially true since 9/11.

    But this is false. US has militarily succeeded around the world in invasions and winning wars.
    But the military cannot build new systems. Its purpose is to destroy. Military can invade, military can bomb, military can kill. But it was not designed to heal and build. Sure, there are military engineers that are into logistics and etc. but military isn't meant to build anything permanent.

    So, US military fulfills its missions all over the world. It drops bombs, invades, kills people, and etc.
    It is very successful at all that. Now, if the US were to return after the battles or wars, no problem.
    But the US plan is to STAY,and that's where the problem comes in. The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It's not the military that is deciding to stay forever.

    Consider a doctor. A doctor can cut flesh and do stuff inside the body, BUT he cannot heal the patient. He can only set things right(like broken bones) or remove organs. Once he stitches the patient and removes his invasive presence from the organs of the patient, the healing must happen internally by the body itself. A doctor can only set bones together. For the bones to heal, an organic process must take place independent of the doctor. A doctor an remove an object from the body. But the healing has to be happen by natural processes of the body. So, a doctor can cut open a patient and invasively do stuff inside the body. But once his job is finished, he must stitch up the flesh and let the body heal itself.

    US military is the same way. It can invade and take out 'bad guys', but then, it must move out and allow the nation to heal and reorder itself by its own accord. But the US keeps the wound open. The surgery never ends. So, the body cannot heal by its own accord.

    Worse, US targets the wrong 'patients' for sickness. US relies on the Zionist quack to decide which nations are sick and need to be operated on. Obviously, the quack Zionist never says anything is wrong with Israel. Oh no. The sick puppies are Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. or any nation hated by Jews.
    But, as the saying goes, "don't fix what isn't broken". It was US foreign policy and war-making that made those nations even worse. Also, the US intervention can make things much worse by removing the regulator. Assad's regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose. It's like cutting upon a body and messing with the functioning of the heart or liver. The whole system begins to fall apart. US strategists and big thinkers are quacks or third-rate medical scientists. What they often identify as the disease turns out to be the crucial organ holding the nation together. Gaddafi's regime looked gross and sick(and it was), but despite its grotesqueness, it was the key organ/regulator that held the nation together. Imagine a doctor cutting open someone and taking out intestines as being 'full of shit'. So, will the patient be better since the shit-filled organ has been removed from the body? Of course not. As ugly as intestines are, they are crucial. And Gaddafi's regime was crucial in a desert nation of so many clans. And Assad is the necessary organ of Syria. Of course, the evil Zionist doctor knows this. But it calls for removal of or harm done to the organ because it wants to see a permanently crippled and sick Syria.

    Another thing. Bacevitch is wrong to focus on the military. I can understand why because he's a military historian.

    But the real power is not with the military. After all, if the US were all about military power and ambitions, then war with ANY nation will do for US aggression and foreign ventures. US could make a case that Israel is a rogue state that occupies West Bank, stole Golan Heights, kills Gazans, and spies on the US.
    Or US can cook up any excuse to go to war with Venezuela, Bolivia, black Africa, and etc. There are plenty of cruddy nations.
    But notice that the US military only barks and bites at nations hated by Jews.

    So, Jews have the power over the military because military is under civilian authority that has been bought up by or manned with Jewish power.

    There was some human rights fuss about something in Burma... Why isn't the US military moving over there?
    Mexico has tons of drug lords who commit murder and sell drugs to the US. Why isn't US waging on Mexico?

    All the US wars and aggressions are against nations hated by Jews.

    So, while the Military Industrial Complex may enjoy saber-rattling and wars, it has no agency and autonomy. Its enemies must be chosen by The Power. It's like dogs like to hunt, but the master gets to choose what animal shall be hunted: rabbits, foxes, pigs, deer, etc.

    Hello Priss.

    I don’t know about the win rate. Sure, there were the invasions of Grenada and Panama.

    Maybe Nicaragua, but that was not a war, just massive malicious interference. They even had Russell Means, famous as an American Indian activist in the NAM, among other things, workimg there as an agent. Wonder how effective he was?

    Gulf War I, sure killed many Iraqi soldiers and destroyed much materiel, Also ‘liberated’ that strange construct, Kuwait, back to despotism under its so-called royal family. Sure, liberated the exploitation of oil in Kuwait’s EEZ.

    Cold War? Indeed a victory, but only through the placement and manipulation of traitors in the USSR (many from your fave ethnicity), not a military victory. The true and full story of that is yet to be told, and I am doubting that it ever will.

    As one of your several fans on this site, I am curious about why you always are posting as Anonymous now, even when, as in this post of yours, the content is not very controversial.

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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    I doubt we prols and peasants will ever know the “purpose” of wars. From my perch, the vast majority of them are waged by simple-minded nutcases to satisfy some entirely unfathomable ( to us semi- “normies”, anyway) lust for domination or who knows what. They seem to be the biological adult behavior equivalents for kids torturing cats.

    It seems to me utterly crackpot behavior that can never be satisfactorily understood by mere mortals.

    I could be wrong, however.

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  • @The Alarmist

    "By common consent, the United States today has the world’s best military. By some estimates, it may be the best in recorded history."
     
    Maybe for today, but for recorded history, the nod goes clearly to the Romans, who knew how to fight and conquer like Romans. We're just getting to our end-game via cheap imported labour and general societal decadence a bit faster than they.

    Most expensive does not equal best.

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  • @padre
    So,the purpose of killing is life?

    The definition of being alive is consuming.
    It is easier to steal than to produce
    So, the purpose of life is stealing; the concomitant killing is unavoidable.

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  • Errata:

    “War is evil/wrong/stupid/.” No, war is criminal. See Rome Statute Articles 8 bis, 15 bis and 15 ter, which restate universal jurisdiction law for an independent jurisdiction. Use of force in manifest breach of the UN Charter is the gravest crime.

    “Now, the nation that has created this military system is not some ‘shithole country.’” Yes it is. For your convenience OHCHR has compiled a handy comparative shithole map that clearly shows that your country is the biggest, most bouyant turd in the underdevelopment shithole, bobbing and reeking with Myanmar, Arab headchoppers, and a few atavistic African presidents-for-life. The big picture is apt to trigger indoctrinated reactions of dismissal, but you can drill down and examine the exhaustive supporting documentation compiled by independent experts and domestic civil society.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    “We need a military system that accurately prioritizes actual and emerging threats.” No we don’t. The US government’s fixation on threats is how the military metastasizes. Furthermore, we don’t need a military system at all. Costa Rica does just fine without one, and they’re a softer target than the US.

    “The root cause of our predicament is the all-volunteer force.” So, you’re going to fix our criminal-aggression ‘predicament’ by forcing every adult to fight with criminal penalties for non-compliance? This is how cognitive dissidence causes rational people to stop following their logical nose and veer off into idiocy.

    So now that we’ve cleared away the cruft of residual state indoctrination with which Bacevich is valiantly struggling, we can talk turkey. The solution is simple. We need a law ‘n order president. The law and order the president enforces is to include UN Charter articles 2(4) and 51, ICCPR Article 20, and A/RES/25/2625. We had a president like that, JFK, but CIA shot him. Our next law ‘n order president must first do what Jack Kennedy wanted to do, until CIA murdered him: break CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds. That is a regime change. So any future law ‘n order president will by necessity be appointed by the victors of the last war our fatass loser military loses. The victors will impose command responsibility for US aggression (that in itself will decimate CIA and the flag ranks.) The victors will end CIA’s COG state-of-emergency regime and replace this obsolete dead-letter constitution with the UN Charter, the core human rights instruments, the International Bill of Human Rights, and the Rome Statute.

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    LOL this guy wants us to treat the OHCHR seriously. I bet he thinks the Canadian CHRC is also a legitimate body we should all defer to.

    "we can talk turkey." OK let's. Your irrelevant and (frankly insulting to our intelligence) commentary spoken as some UN plutocrat treating the US and Haiti as equal with equal standards is about as dumb as the gentleman above who wants us to think "half the US population has hispanic roots" or that we never "USA diversity never made room for the native americans".

    Your slimy globalism is showing, Pooftareader, no matter how many times you try to use expressions like "Arab headchoppers" to try, in your wormy manner, to fit in with how you think dissident nationalists talk.
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  • @Anon
    in the post-Cold War era when the relative strength of U.S. forces reached its zenith, our well-endowed, well-trained, well-equipped, and highly disciplined troops have proven unable to accomplish any of the core tasks to which they’ve been assigned. This has been especially true since 9/11.

    But this is false. US has militarily succeeded around the world in invasions and winning wars.
    But the military cannot build new systems. Its purpose is to destroy. Military can invade, military can bomb, military can kill. But it was not designed to heal and build. Sure, there are military engineers that are into logistics and etc. but military isn't meant to build anything permanent.

    So, US military fulfills its missions all over the world. It drops bombs, invades, kills people, and etc.
    It is very successful at all that. Now, if the US were to return after the battles or wars, no problem.
    But the US plan is to STAY,and that's where the problem comes in. The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It's not the military that is deciding to stay forever.

    Consider a doctor. A doctor can cut flesh and do stuff inside the body, BUT he cannot heal the patient. He can only set things right(like broken bones) or remove organs. Once he stitches the patient and removes his invasive presence from the organs of the patient, the healing must happen internally by the body itself. A doctor can only set bones together. For the bones to heal, an organic process must take place independent of the doctor. A doctor an remove an object from the body. But the healing has to be happen by natural processes of the body. So, a doctor can cut open a patient and invasively do stuff inside the body. But once his job is finished, he must stitch up the flesh and let the body heal itself.

    US military is the same way. It can invade and take out 'bad guys', but then, it must move out and allow the nation to heal and reorder itself by its own accord. But the US keeps the wound open. The surgery never ends. So, the body cannot heal by its own accord.

    Worse, US targets the wrong 'patients' for sickness. US relies on the Zionist quack to decide which nations are sick and need to be operated on. Obviously, the quack Zionist never says anything is wrong with Israel. Oh no. The sick puppies are Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. or any nation hated by Jews.
    But, as the saying goes, "don't fix what isn't broken". It was US foreign policy and war-making that made those nations even worse. Also, the US intervention can make things much worse by removing the regulator. Assad's regime was the regulator that kept the balance of power and order in Syria. But US interferes and undermines the regulator and all hell breaks loose. It's like cutting upon a body and messing with the functioning of the heart or liver. The whole system begins to fall apart. US strategists and big thinkers are quacks or third-rate medical scientists. What they often identify as the disease turns out to be the crucial organ holding the nation together. Gaddafi's regime looked gross and sick(and it was), but despite its grotesqueness, it was the key organ/regulator that held the nation together. Imagine a doctor cutting open someone and taking out intestines as being 'full of shit'. So, will the patient be better since the shit-filled organ has been removed from the body? Of course not. As ugly as intestines are, they are crucial. And Gaddafi's regime was crucial in a desert nation of so many clans. And Assad is the necessary organ of Syria. Of course, the evil Zionist doctor knows this. But it calls for removal of or harm done to the organ because it wants to see a permanently crippled and sick Syria.

    Another thing. Bacevitch is wrong to focus on the military. I can understand why because he's a military historian.

    But the real power is not with the military. After all, if the US were all about military power and ambitions, then war with ANY nation will do for US aggression and foreign ventures. US could make a case that Israel is a rogue state that occupies West Bank, stole Golan Heights, kills Gazans, and spies on the US.
    Or US can cook up any excuse to go to war with Venezuela, Bolivia, black Africa, and etc. There are plenty of cruddy nations.
    But notice that the US military only barks and bites at nations hated by Jews.

    So, Jews have the power over the military because military is under civilian authority that has been bought up by or manned with Jewish power.

    There was some human rights fuss about something in Burma... Why isn't the US military moving over there?
    Mexico has tons of drug lords who commit murder and sell drugs to the US. Why isn't US waging on Mexico?

    All the US wars and aggressions are against nations hated by Jews.

    So, while the Military Industrial Complex may enjoy saber-rattling and wars, it has no agency and autonomy. Its enemies must be chosen by The Power. It's like dogs like to hunt, but the master gets to choose what animal shall be hunted: rabbits, foxes, pigs, deer, etc.

    The problem is not with the US military. It is with the post-military strategy, for which the military is ill-equipped to handle. It’s not the military that is deciding to stay forever.

    The failure to rebuild functioning nation states and the “need” for continuous occupation are not bugs but features. The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with “fighting terror” or “spreading democracy and freedom” – it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China. Afghanistan cannot be allowed to make its own decisions in this matter, so it must endure the occupation.

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    Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai believes Russia can play a decisive role in ending America’s longest war

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/ex-afghan-leader-karzai-sees-russia-as-key-to-peace-with-taliban

     

    With talk like this I’m sure the Western “intel” agencies are plotting to take Karzai out and replace him with another puppet.
    , @chris
    Excellent point, Mike!

    It's all about keeping every country in check and scared so no one here or there ever starts to ask: 'what the hell are we doing ?' and 'what have we done ?'
    , @Wally
    "it is to encircle Iran and preventing it from linking up with China."

    Yet Iran is linking up with China, big time.

    https://thediplomat.com/2016/11/iran-china-sign-military-cooperation-agreement/

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/iran-and-china-are-strengthening-their-military-ties

    https://financialtribune.com/articles/economy-domestic-economy/69312/iran-china-h1-trade-up-31-to-18-billion
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  • @Seamus Day

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”
     

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

    “The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.”

    Seamus, buddy, I can’t disagree . . . I can’t disagree.

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  • The USA has inherited the pirate genes of England , plus the brutal genes of militaristic germans , thats all for ” diversity ” .

    USA ” diversity ” never made room for the native americans , for the hispanic roots of half of the country ……..

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    Can't tell if this a bad troll or you're just very, very out of your depth at this website?
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  • Out of its 239 years of existence the US has been at war for 222 years ( 93 % if its existence ) .

    https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/50473

    The USA does 50% of the military expenses of the world , the USA has some 800-1000 military bases out of the country . USA population 310 million , rest of the world 7,200 million

    What else ?

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  • Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark James

    we count on these less affluent Americans to volunteer for military service

     

    Mondoweiss had an interesting piece recently stating that Baptists, Catholics, LDS contribute the highest personnel numbers --percentage wise-- to the Armed Services. While Methodists, Congregationalists, Jews the fewest. Even Muslims have a greater percentage than Jews (surprising...no).

    The point is that in as long as educational benefits, medical care (for life) and a notion of service as a noble calling continue to be valued by a significant portion of the poor/lower middle class, the wealthiest among us will have numbers to project militarily. And it won't be from their families.

    The Deep State/ziocons were very smart to create a deification of the military in the past decades. So the American public would cheer on wars and occupations and endless global military expansion. We went from the grass-roots anti-war invective “Baby killers!” to the Fox News slogan, “Thank you for your service!”

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  • @jilles dykstra
    The main thing in this world that frightens me is USA militarism.
    De Gaulle already said 'the USA thinks that force is the solution to any problem'.
    About the best army, in NATO excercises comparing armies the Dutch most of the time won.
    USA commanders never understood how without orders a problem was solved, while USA soldiers were waiting for orders.
    With regard to discipline, the Dutch were the worst.

    The reason that US militarism is so frightening is that like its parent English imperialism it is insatiable and the very definition of self-righteous and features a world class ability to lie and deceive.

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    British imperialism was not so frightening.
    Britain was and is a small country, that never had the resources the USA has.
    British colonial wars were small, and not costly in money, except before WWI the Boer War.
    Ian Hernon, 'Britain's Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century', 2003, 2007, Chalford - Stroud
    Even the Boers, with a few cannon, and just rifles, were a formidable opponent.
    The natives were no match at all for repeater rifles, shrapnel cannon, or battleships.
    The British empire could exist through bluff, manipulation, bribes, diplomacy.
    WWI changed all that.
    Germany was not a bunch of natives with spears and muskets.
    WWII was the end of the British empire, thanks to Churchill:
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    As far as I know the book just was published as german translation, I suppose no British publisher dared to publish the original by British historian Charmley.
    That Churchill was not a hero, but an undertaker, it cannot be true.
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  • anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Everything that I’ve read here sourced to TomDispatch sounds like something one might hear on NPR. If “Andrew J. Bacevich is trying to write a book about how we got Trump,” then he might do well to look in the mirror.

    My best guess after reading this column is that he wants Uncle Sam to conscript my kids to

    - keep China from “rising”

    - be stationed in eastern Poland to glare across the border at “petulant and over-armed Russia”

    - wage a Great War On Climate Change

    But why? Notice the pronoun propaganda worthy of Pat Buchanan:

    “The root cause of our predicament is the all-volunteer force. Only when we ordinary citizens conclude that we have an obligation to contribute to the country’s defense will it become possible to devise a set of principles for raising, organizing, supporting, and employing U.S. forces that align with our professed values and our actual security requirements.”

    Of course, the author would entrust these purported reforms to the Congress, which is going to rein in the Commander-In-Chief like it did back in [******].

    Many of “we ordinary citizens” have come to realize that nothing run from Washington — especially military forces deployed outside “our” country — has much to do “with our professed values and our actual security requirements.” And it never, ever will.

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    The idea is that an army of conscripts, that is, of citizens, may be a little more responsible than an army of unemployed robots. Before there was general conscription the military were a collection of psychopaths. General conscription diluted their preponderance in the armed forces. The use of a lottery to conscript during Vietnam was a device to stop protests.
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  • @gjack
    A "petulant, overarmed Russia" is a "security issue" for the U.S.? It would kind of seem to be the other way around. Colonel, you're well outside the mainstream media here. No need for even a courtesy bow to political correctness.

    A “petulant, overarmed Russia” is a “security issue” for the U.S.? It would kind of seem to be the other way around.

    That’s a real gagger. Glad I didn’t waste time reading the article and instead jumped right to the comments.

    It’s an old trick to blame others for what you’re doing. E.g., the Reds, who openly advocated and agitated for permanent worldwide revolution, blamed the Nazis for wanting to take over the world.

    A couple of other examples,

    “Blame others for your own sins.”
    J. V. Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907

    Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

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    It's interesting that the Soviets had a universal political ideology pretty much requiring world conquest/revolution, while the Nazis did not, yet the Nazis were successfully manipulated (or manipulated themselves, I don't know which) into invading most of their neighbors. The Soviets did that too but got away with it* by hiding behind the Nazi conquests at the same time.

    *The Russian nation paid very heavily, though.

    Note: This comment form was autofilled with "Ron Unz" as commenter handle. That's a mistake, I think?
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  • @Fran Macadam
    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    "The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else."

    A conservative Scottish pastor at a Baptist Church I visited, credibly summed up the purpose of war, more accurately than Augustine:

    “The purpose of war is to take what belongs to someone else.”

    Bullshit. The cost of most of our recent wars is orders of magnitude more than could ever be taken from these countries. That’s why the ‘war for oil’ slogan of the left is so stupid. We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.

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    "The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom."

    Seamus, buddy, I can't disagree . . . I can't disagree.
    , @jacques sheete

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.
     
    I doubt we prols and peasants will ever know the "purpose" of wars. From my perch, the vast majority of them are waged by simple-minded nutcases to satisfy some entirely unfathomable ( to us semi- "normies", anyway) lust for domination or who knows what. They seem to be the biological adult behavior equivalents for kids torturing cats.

    It seems to me utterly crackpot behavior that can never be satisfactorily understood by mere mortals.

    I could be wrong, however.

    , @Chris Mallory

    The purpose of our modern wars is to destroy countries and then occupy them to maintain control until a puppet regime of our can be planted and bloom.
     
    In other words "To take their stuff". Why else have a "puppet regime"?
    , @myself
    I peg it as collective American, and by extension collective Western, insanity.

    We're not going to cure ourselves - we should be in the civilization equivalent of a straight-jacket, barring that, maybe we should be put out of our misery.

    And BTW, the older generations to whom I've spoken mostly know what's what. They know in their gut that their societies and their children have no future, and most are banking on being dead when the predictable collapse occurs.

    Yup, the Boomers do not give a shit, and just want to live comfortably and then die. We are now at the end game.

    Give it 20 years, maximum. 20 years - a blink of an eye in historical terms.
    , @The Scalpel
    The biological purpose of war is to kill off ignorant, violent people and those who value themselves so little that they willing to risk their lives follow orders from literally anyone with a dollar in their pocket.
    , @Carroll Price

    We spent trillions in Iraq. You don’t spend trillions for oil.
     
    No, the trillions weren't spent (as in wasted) they were simply diverted from the public to the private sector.
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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    "Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.”"
     
    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I'd go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn't changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty
     
    Just come out and say "Criminal." Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice
     
    Colonel, we haven't had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called "color of law." You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up
     
    That's just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it's our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia's Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we're rabid dogs. BTW if you're really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    "The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men..."
     
    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don't give a rat's a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here's the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel's article is a fail.

    Colonel, we haven’t had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947…

    Some would peg that almost a century prior or even earlier. The war of Northern bankers against Southern planters proved that the anti-federalists were correct in many ways.

    The constitution was a huge link in the chain around our necks.

    Rule of law? When did that ever happen?

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    Partisan divisions over the military reflect much deeper cultural factors. “From the quasi-war with France [1798-1800] to the Vietnam war,” writes historian David Hackett Fischer, “the two southern cultures strongly supported every American war no matter what it was about or who it was against. Southern ideas of honour and the warrior ethic combined to create regional war fevers of great intensity in 1798, 1812, 1846, 1861, 1898, 1941, 1950 and 1965.” At the same time, the greater New England region has been home to the most intense opposition to American foreign wars-including the second world war. For 50 years, liberal American historians have spoken of “right-wing isolationists” but the fact is that most isolationists in the 1930s were liberals or leftists. Ironically, Roosevelt found the strongest supporters for his anti-Hitler foreign policy among racist Southern conservatives, who hated New Deal liberalism but were eager to save Britain and defeat Germany. The isolationist America First committee was a miserable failure in the south.

    As the southern states have gone Republican in recent years, so has America’s military, in which southern whites have always been over-represented. In November 2000, during the electoral college crisis, Democratic party operatives in the contested state of Florida tried to disqualify, on technical grounds, as many overseas ballots from US military personnel as they could, on the correct assumption that American soldiers are overwhelmingly Republican.

    What explains the deeply-ingrained military ethic of southerners-and the equally intense anti-military sentiments of greater New Englanders? Again, culture is the answer. The New England Puritans frowned on violence as a way of resolving social conflicts. The southern cavalier code, however, endorsed violence when personal or national honour was being “disrespected” or “dissed.” According to the sociologists Richard E Nisbet and Dov Cohen, although white southerners are no more likely than northern whites to kill strangers for money, they are much more likely to kill spouses, lovers, friends, and acquaintances who have insulted them. These differences explain why southern states have higher rates of homicide-and more executions. Most black Americans share southern culture (and the Latin American culture of honour is very similar). When murders committed by blacks and Latinos are not counted, the anthropologist Marvin Harris has observed, “America’s rates of violent crime are much closer to the rates found in Japan.” If southern whites were then subtracted from the murder figures, the US murder rate would be lower still.

    All of this means that the talk in recent years about a supposed “resurgence of right-wing isolationism” is misleading. Many commentators have found themselves confused by the ambitious liberal interventionism of Clinton and Gore and the right-wing isolationism of Patrick Buchanan. But neither Clinton nor Buchanan are typical of their parties. Buchanan has little influence on the Republican right, which has repudiated his isolationism as well as his protectionism. Clinton, like Gore, emerged from the shrinking southern conservative wing of the Democratic party. His southern-style interventionism was supported by many Jewish liberals who want a US forward military presence capable of protecting Israel and who viewed Serbia’s ethnic cleansing in the Balkans as a replay of the Holocaust. But the interventionist sentiments of Jewish liberals are not shared by other groups in the Democratic electoral base, like Yankees, Germanic Americans and blacks.

    This is why Europeans and Asians who believe that the Democrats will be more “internationalist” than the Republicans are mistaken. True, liberal Yankees are more in favour of constructive engagement with international institutions and norms than their southern rivals: compare the support of Clinton and Gore for the Kyoto treaty with George W Bush’s hostility to UN peacekeeping missions. But when the US uses military power-unilaterally or as part of an alliance like Nato-the fiercest opposition always comes from left-wing Democrats. Republicans may not like open-ended peace-keeping operations in the Balkans, but where US and allied security interests are clearly at stake, as in the Persian Gulf or the Taiwan Strait, they are hawks. By contrast, much of the Democratic left denounced Clinton as a war criminal during the Kosovo war. If a Republican president had led the Nato effort in the Balkans, most Democrats in Congress would probably have opposed it, just as most congressional Democrats voted against the Gulf war. Tony Blair may not like their thinking on domestic politics, but if he wants a strong Anglo-American alliance then his natural allies will be found among Anglophile Virginia Republicans, not among pacifist Democrats in Massachusetts or Oregon.

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/americastribes
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  • @Ronald Thomas West

    "Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.”"
     
    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I'd go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn't changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty
     
    Just come out and say "Criminal." Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice
     
    Colonel, we haven't had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called "color of law." You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up
     
    That's just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it's our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia's Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we're rabid dogs. BTW if you're really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    "The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men..."
     
    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don't give a rat's a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here's the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel's article is a fail.

    There of course is no USA terrorism, those in Virginia that fire Hellfire from Predators go to church, and do not blow themselves up when murdering.
    Those with explosive belts are the terrorists.
    The problem just is that at the explosive belt side they have the opposite view about who the terrorists are.

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  • “By common consent, the United States today has the world’s best military. By some estimates, it may be the best in recorded history.”

    Maybe for today, but for recorded history, the nod goes clearly to the Romans, who knew how to fight and conquer like Romans. We’re just getting to our end-game via cheap imported labour and general societal decadence a bit faster than they.

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    Most expensive does not equal best.
    , @Mike P

    [Bacevich: ... best military evah ... ] Maybe for today, but for recorded history, the nod goes clearly to the Romans, who knew how to fight and conquer like Romans.
     
    The Roman armies are a good example, as are Ramses' Egyptians, Cambyses' Persians, Pausanias' and Lysander's Spartans, Epaminondas' Thebans, Alexander's Macedonians, Genghis' Mongols, Peter the Great Russians, Napoleon's French, Frederick's and von Moltke's Prussians ... I could go on all day. Sure the US forces are the strongest right now, but within history, they are nothing special. In terms of bang for the buck, they are utterly pathetic, one reason being of course that the arms development and procurement agenda has been totally hijacked by corporate interests.
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  • The main thing in this world that frightens me is USA militarism.
    De Gaulle already said ‘the USA thinks that force is the solution to any problem’.
    About the best army, in NATO excercises comparing armies the Dutch most of the time won.
    USA commanders never understood how without orders a problem was solved, while USA soldiers were waiting for orders.
    With regard to discipline, the Dutch were the worst.

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    The reason that US militarism is so frightening is that like its parent English imperialism it is insatiable and the very definition of self-righteous and features a world class ability to lie and deceive.
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  • What Happens When a Few Volunteer and the Rest Just Watch?

    …the volunteers become mercenaries for Israel.

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    • Replies: @Patricus
    If Jews direct our military forces for their nefarious ends these Jews must be incompetent halfwits. How did making Iraq an Iranian client benefit Israel? Did the Libyan failure benefit Israel? Is the Syrian/Russian/Iranian state a boon to Israel? Maybe Israel should try something else.
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  • The essay starts out on the wrong path and never finds its way: men and women in today’s military do not “volunteer” and “serve,” they make application and are employed; their status as employees is no different from a Walmart clerk but of less benefit to the common good than the men and women who collect the garbage or run the town’s water-treatment system.

    They are not employed to wage war, i.e. to defend the nation against attack, they are employed to carry out exactly what Fran Macadam stated in #4: to take what belongs to somebody else.

    While I agree with most of Anon (425)’s analysis and apt analogy to a physician/surgeon cutting into a human body; and contrary to Fran Macadam’s demur in #3, I also agree that civilian authorities are pulling the strings to set that physician/military to work on the wrong patient; I disagree that “the Military Industrial Complex . . . has no agency and autonomy” and vehemently object to equating employees in the MIC to “dogs who like to hunt.”

    No human being surrenders his moral agency either before “voluntarily” becoming an employee of any organization or in carrying out the tasks as an employee.
    Men and women who apply for employment in MIC are not dogs, they have moral agency: they know beforehand that the tasks they will carry out are to kill people and destroy things that belong to other people.

    The first moral injunction of the physician is, Do No Harm.
    Just War concepts that St. Augustine (among others) made a part of western civilization impose a similar constraint.

    That is why the US Constitution requires that the representatives of the people Declare War: sending members of the community off to kill other people and destroy their homes is such a serious — “evil,” as Bacevich notes — act that the people must consider the act long and hard before taking that decision. An Authorization to Use Military Force is NOT a declaration of war, it is a sophist’s abrogation of his responsibility in order to achieve a nefarious purpose.

    The man or woman who kills, destroys, or plunders in a military action that is not the object of a properly declared war is just as guilty of murder, theft, and crimes against humanity as the civilian authorities who set those acts in motion.

    That this is so is proved by actions such as this:

    94-year-old man charged with serving in Auschwitz death camp

    https://nypost.com/2015/02/23/94-year-old-man-charged-with-serving-in-auschwitz/

    and

    94-Year-Old Auschwitz Guard Charged as “Juvenile” © Sputnik / Valeriy Melnikov
    16.04.2018(updated 18:43 16.04.2018)

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804161063619620-nazi-germany-auschwitz-trial/

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  • A “petulant, overarmed Russia” is a “security issue” for the U.S.? It would kind of seem to be the other way around. Colonel, you’re well outside the mainstream media here. No need for even a courtesy bow to political correctness.

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    A “petulant, overarmed Russia” is a “security issue” for the U.S.? It would kind of seem to be the other way around.
     
    That's a real gagger. Glad I didn't waste time reading the article and instead jumped right to the comments.

    It's an old trick to blame others for what you're doing. E.g., the Reds, who openly advocated and agitated for permanent worldwide revolution, blamed the Nazis for wanting to take over the world.

    A couple of other examples,


    "Blame others for your own sins."
    J. V. Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907

     


    Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

     

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  • Great article. This piece by a guest author on the Saker blog makes a good addition to this piece. It puts the issue in a moral context:

    http://thesaker.is/ask-yourselves-are-we-the-bad-guys/

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    It is an excellent article, but please, don't sully it with The Saker.
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  • So,the purpose of killing is life?

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    The definition of being alive is consuming.
    It is easier to steal than to produce
    So, the purpose of life is stealing; the concomitant killing is unavoidable.
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  • “Thucydides’s famed .. “The strong do what they will, while the weak suffer what they must.””

    Well, colonel, in case of Thucydides, I’d go with “Their judgment was based more upon blind wishing than upon any sound pre-vision; for it is a habit of mankind to entrust to careless hope what they long for, and to use sovereign reason to thrust aside what they do not fancy” pointing to human nature hasn’t changed one bit, bringing up the more apropos:

    “The extension of the empire has meant the growth of private fortunes. This is nothing new, indeed it is in keeping with the most ancient history” -Gaius Asinius Gallus (from Tacitus, The Annals of Imperial Rome)

    Meanwhile, under the terms of our military system, attention to how this money actually gets spent by our yet-to-be-audited Pentagon tends to be — to put the matter politely — spotty

    Just come out and say “Criminal.” Or, look at whose books THE PENTAGON is auditing:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/30/usaid-in-central-africa/

    The legal profession exists to implement the rule of law. We hope that the result is some approximation of justice

    Colonel, we haven’t had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947. What we have is called “color of law.” You might wish to study up on that:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/12/01/the-oath-and-the-trash-bin/

    I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior than I do about Islamic terrorism. And I worry more about changing weather patterns here in New England or somebody shutting down the electrical grid in my home town than I do about what Beijing and Moscow may be cooking up

    That’s just oymoronish stupid (typo?) because it’s our military and intelligence agencies combined behavior, inclusive of radicalizing Islam and setting it loose in Western China and Russia’s Caucus, is no small reason for those rising giants looking at us like we’re rabid dogs. BTW if you’re really worried about the grid going down, well, you might have a look at EMP:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/10/14/devolution-part-1/

    As for:

    “The generals who followed one another in presiding over that war are undoubtedly estimable, well-intentioned men…”

    The colonel is just flat out wrong; and I don’t give a rat’s a** if I was a mere sergeant and Bacevich was a colonel, because I went on to work in the trenches investigating corruption and the colonel went to the la-la-land of the ivory tower. Here’s the real score:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/05/26/counterfeit-coin/

    All in all, the colonel’s article is a fail.

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    There of course is no USA terrorism, those in Virginia that fire Hellfire from Predators go to church, and do not blow themselves up when murdering.
    Those with explosive belts are the terrorists.
    The problem just is that at the explosive belt side they have the opposite view about who the terrorists are.
    , @jacques sheete

    Colonel, we haven’t had a constitution & rule of law since the National Security Act of 1947...
     
    Some would peg that almost a century prior or even earlier. The war of Northern bankers against Southern planters proved that the anti-federalists were correct in many ways.

    The constitution was a huge link in the chain around our necks.

    Rule of law? When did that ever happen?
    , @Zumbuddi
    Pat Lang should've glanced at the comments to Bacevich's writings before he posted on Unz,

    The Unz commentariat refuses to be censored or to self-censor (thank you Ron Unz, 1000 X).

    UFers call BS when they smell it.

    Lang scurried back to his gated spiderhole & winged about "delusional" commenters at Unz.

    Don't let the door hit ya.

    , @Iris
    Colonel Bacevich is only playing the devil's advocate, and, in a diplomatic manner, showing the contradictions between the "official" military agenda and the reality of today's world.

    If the US was ruled with the interests of its people and servicemen in mind, it would not be engaged in endless and unwinnable wars. But the NeoCons imperial elite don't care, as they don't have skin in the game, unlike the military (Colonel Bacevich lost his only son in Iraq).

    The fate of an Empire is demise, because it is ruled by the few, who don't care about reality, until this reality engulfs them.
    Patriots try to stop such demise by the modest , realistic means available to them: enlightening people.
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  • “I don’t know about you, but I worry more about the implications of China’s rise and Russian misbehavior”

    I stopped reading here.

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    If you stop reading something then you are a case of arrested development. Which is what the Deep State wants.
    , @Anon
    It’s an arrogant comment. What the author wants is to reinstate the draft.

    Let those who want college tuition and free medical care enlist and get it. Let those who want to stay out of the military stays out.
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  • >muh military hubris
    >”Russian misbehavior”

    Ahahahaha.

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  • @Fran Macadam
    One fiendish way to neutralize the good counsel of those against these wars, is to state all the many obvious and provable negative motives, properties and consequences of war - but then, sum up by blaming it on "The Joos."

    Are the conniving jooies and their kept goy boys pushing the ongoing destruction of the ME? If so, why not finger the vile jooies for being the bloodthirsty warmongers they are?

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  • we count on these less affluent Americans to volunteer for military service

    Mondoweiss had an interesting piece recently stating that Baptists, Catholics, LDS contribute the highest personnel numbers –percentage wise– to the Armed Services. While Methodists, Congregationalists, Jews the fewest. Even Muslims have a greater percentage than Jews (surprising…no).

    The point is that in as long as educational benefits, medical care (for life) and a notion of service as a noble calling continue to be valued by a significant portion of the poor/lower middle class, the wealthiest among us will have numbers to project militarily. And it won’t be from their families.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The Deep State/ziocons were very smart to create a deification of the military in the past decades. So the American public would cheer on wars and occupations and endless global military expansion. We went from the grass-roots anti-war invective “Baby killers!” to the Fox News slogan, “Thank you for your service!”
    , @Almost Missouri
    It was over ten years ago, and it said Buddhists were more represented than Jews, not Muslims. Muslims are as underrepresented as other overclass religions.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2006/08/the_true_defini/
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