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    Introduction Hip-hop is another cultural artefact attracting the attention of Christians working with young people. Back in January, at the five-day intensive university course for Youth Culture and Ministry, Andrew Root, a professor of youth ministry from Luther Seminary in Minneapolis, devoted an afternoon session to the subject. His very effective audio-visual presentation reflected what...
  • @Anonymous
    I read this on another website. I wonder why he calls it hip hop. It's been called rap since the mid 1980s. I agree with what he said. And why claim its against wasp culture? It's against all White culture and civilization.

    Personally, my biggest concern is H 1 B visas, affirmative action and the invasion by non Whites who are instantly given affirmative action preference There is a big Tesla plant in Fremont Ca. It sounded great, all sorts of skilled well paid jobs. But the employees work for sub sub sub contractors, not Tesla. And most are Eastern Europeans on visas.

    Rap is horrible in every way. Let the blacks destroy themselves with it. What I have against the music and entertainment industry is that much of the obscene profits go to AIPAC , ADL, AJC, SPLC, and Friends of the IDF, all anti White organizations.

    Let’s not forget those who name their children “Shontavius”, Le Toilet” and “D’ontavius”. We cannot forget another memorable name “L-a” (pronounced La-Dash-a). I’m not kidding. That last name is registered in the Bureau of Vital Statistics (on a birth certificate) in a midwestern state.
    With names like that, they are instantly distinguishable on a resume…and instantly throw “affirmative action” out the window…a good thing, I suppose…

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    "But what an article like this demonstrates again, in my opinion, that the USA is not a melting pot, it is stew."

    Well put. The former black mayor of NYC, David Dinkins, once described the US of A as a "gorgeous mosaic". I'm not sure how "gorgeous " it is as it appears more like a haphazard, formless mass. On the other hand, obviously "gorgeous", like "beauty", is in the eye of the beholder. But a mosaic it is--for better or for worse.

    Great, when are you moving to Finland?

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    Black culture? What's that? Is that like unicorns?

    There hasn't been a truly authentic and autonomous black intellectual culture ever since Booker T. Washington's concept of education and self help was totally displaced by the Marxist concept of victimology that has been most prominently promoted by the National Association of Colored People (NAACP) starting way back in the early part of the twentieth century. Booker Washington's organization received a significant amount of its funding from white gentiles like Andrew Carnegie. These well meaning gentile contributors allowed the very forceful Booker Washington to run his own organization with few strings attached. That wasn't to be the case with the NAACP however.

    The NAACP is an especially interesting example of how blacks don't really now control or have ever controlled any of the "acceptable" major civil rights (CORE SNCC) or cultural organizations that supposedly represent their interests. The NAACP never really was a black organization simply because its actual leadership has never really black. Instead it was controlled by those who funded it. If memory serves me correctly, the NAACP's first five leaders were in fact white Jews and at one time the only black member on its board of directors was W.E.B. DuBois. (The NAACP is also a curious organization because very few blacks are actually dues paying member of it.)

    When the NAACP finally succumbed, kicking and screaming, to pressure to allow a back man to head it in the latter years of the 20th century, its Jewish controllers did so VERY unwillingly. When it did did happen, they made sure to only appoint very compliant black leaders and keep them on a very short, but very well paid leash that did not endanger the Jewish interest in promoting victim hood .

    Once in a while this didn't work out. When Gus Savage, the only truly independent black NAACP head, left the plantation several decades ago and said some things that were against these Jewish interests, his dismissal and the character assassination that was used to justify it was truly brutal and savage. He he never recovered his reputation from this brutal attack and he became a non-person, never to be mentioned in the media or given a public audience ever again, (sorta like Mel Gibson in spades.) He was definitely made an example to those who would stray. Since then, any black NAACP director who has strayed even an iota from the victimology ethos was quickly dispatched. Julian Bond was probably its most well known and long serving recent head. He was also known as a compliant "house nigger", and pseuo-radical who was always careful to get pre-approval for anything he was about to say to the media to protect his very well paid position, just as he had done before while a member of Congress.

    Eric Dyson is only one of a long line of well paid black clowns who know that their financial well beings (and in many cases their attempts at getting academic tenure) are totally dependent on toeing the line that his "deep state" sponsors find acceptable. His whole livelihood is totally dependent on getting on TV to publicize whatever books he has written or lucrative lectures he is about to give. He has to play up to what is expected of him to say about gangster rap, which is of course (duh) to approve it. Gangster rap is to be admired because Organized Jewry has deemed that that gangster rap is "good for Jews" because, among other reasons. it keeps blacks angry and therefore on their totally controlled Democratic Party feedlot. Gangster rap also promotes violence which is considered "good for Jews" because it degrades white culture as well as well as black culture at the same time. (The same thing goes for the effects of pornography.) Gangster rap makes white gentiles afraid and increasingly willing to be submissive to authority. Therefore it is inherently good for our masters.

    We all already know that gangster rap is bad for society in general and blacks in particular. This is obvious (just like we know that drinking bleach is bad for us) but any discussion is simply not part of the equation. It simply doesn't matter to those in control. It is totally irrelevant. What is good for us in the majority simply doesn't matter any longer.

    The George Soros sponsored "Black Lives Matter" movement follows the same line. Its only qualification is whether it is good for for certain folks. The main effect of the BLM movement seems to have been that police no longer really patrol in dangerous black neighbors out of fear of being called "racists". These police now ignore crimes that they used to arrest people for (prostitution, shoplifting etc) therefore making these neighborhoods even more dysfunctional, gang controlled, and unsafe. BLM is therefore a definite detriment overall to the black community but fact that is totally ignored by the our controlled MSM which still praises it.

    But that doesn't really matter because this growing disruption is considered a benefit by the "shadow government" behind BLM of which Soros is actually only a figurehead ( and possibly only a minimal part. You don't think that greedy bastard is using his own money to fund it do you?) What the shadow government is hoping for a total breakdown of society so they will sought out to restore order but under their total control. Sort of like a twenty first decade version of the CHECKA.


    https://radioislam.org/thetruth/naacp.htm

    Great post! I hadn’t heard of Gus Savage before, so thanks for sharing his story.

    Posts like this, with people sharing informative knowledge that sends me off researching topics to find out more, are why I always return to Unz Review.

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  • @Wally
    God you are stupid. You are clear proof that Jews are not as smart as they like to think.

    I posted numerous sources for Iovine being a Jew.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    You posted numerous bogus sources.

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  • anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Not even sure what exactly WASP means I wondered what Hip Hop is.
    Even the oracle wiki does not explain much, I suppose it is one of those things one must have seen to know what it is, as psychotic meant nothing to me until I met a really psychotic person.
    But reading al this remembered
    Melville J. Herskovits, 'The Myth of the Negro Past', 1941, 1958, Boston.
    It quite some time ago I read the book, but if I remember correctly I shows that black people in the USA are different, that contrary to popular thought they did take their culture with them from Africa, maybe also genetically.
    Behaviour in black protestant churches seems to be one of the examples.
    But what an article like this demonstrates again, in my opinion, that the USA is not a melting pot, it is stew.

    “But what an article like this demonstrates again, in my opinion, that the USA is not a melting pot, it is stew.”

    Well put. The former black mayor of NYC, David Dinkins, once described the US of A as a “gorgeous mosaic”. I’m not sure how “gorgeous ” it is as it appears more like a haphazard, formless mass. On the other hand, obviously “gorgeous”, like “beauty”, is in the eye of the beholder. But a mosaic it is–for better or for worse.

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    Great, when are you moving to Finland?
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  • @OilcanFloyd
    I always wondered why so many rock/pop musicians never seem able to play their recorded music the same live, or even the same way twice. I guess it's improvisation in some cases, but I always thought it had more to do with not writing the music down to begin with, or not being able to play what was recorded in the studio.

    There is more…most “top acts” utilize “studio musicians” who are the REAL talent behind the stars.
    A good example of this is the Motown “Funk Brothers” who gave Motown their sound, but were never recognized for their accomplishments…the TRUE talent behind Motown. Berry Gordy made MILLIONS while ignoring the true talent…
    Another example of this is that of the “Wrecking Crew”…the studio musicians who gave most of the 1960s and 1970s music acts their “sound. They too, were not recognized for their talent and accomplishments.
    Studio musicians are the true talent behind almost all music.
    THAT is why many live acts do not sound as good as in the studio.
    It is interesting to note that in Great Britain, the “Funk Brothers” are well-known by name and instruments, unlike their obscurity here in the USA.

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  • @Backwoods Bob
    I obviously haven't communicated well. I apologize.

    My family has some extreme talent, not me - and one at the New England Conservatory right now. He doesn't even listen to popular music. To call it trite would be an understatement, and it is the attitude of the professionals in the family and people like them that I am conveying.

    I've never called myself a musician, still don't. But I did produce two albums and my set list for performances was all songs I wrote myself at the end before I retired.

    When young, I did classical piano and viola. Played in an orchestra. But my heart was in combat sports and classical music was quite the bore. I was not talented at it.

    In college, I picked up a guitar. I discovered the magic. I thought it was hilarious. Lookit me ma! I'm a rock/blues guitarist!

    I had a tremendous amount of fun with 1-4-5 and you can see/feel people just pulling for the resolution... and you give it to 'em. Anyone can jump in and jam, they only have to know the key. The lead riffs off the fret boards from low E to high E are 0-3, 0-2, 0-2, 0-2, 0-3, 0-3 .

    With zero training and only knowing that much you can find the right fret and blaze leads off any song. With just two lead patterns you can do almost anything.

    I'm actually in hearty agreement with you. Me, the underperforming thug, with songs I wrote, played, and produced on the local radio. I've played live performances in several different countries, nobody has to know anything but the key and you can do ten minute songs with solos for every instrument, nobody ever having practiced together before.

    So I am not disparaging it. It is the professional classical musicians who did, and do - yet any old country boy can pick it up and make people sing/dance along. Isn't that great? Hence my smugness - lookit what I can do, despite the disparagement of pros in my own family.

    But to drop from this to the absolute nothing of rap... Rap does have rhythm, so it is similar to jungle drumming. But I have done group drumming too, it's a lot of fun, and seemed more of an accomplishment than rap. And without the social costs of rape, drugs, and mayhem.

    On modern art - yes. You'll see Paul Joseph Watson is in agreement with you and that is why I linked to his youtube.

    Thanks for your comments, Bob. Anyone with good pitch has a great gift, especially if you can play an instrument.

    Music is a universal language that can alter moods, stir the emotions, and get both drunk and sober out on the dance floor. So music is a viable force, or energy.

    Baby, you could light my fire.

    One big question, topical here, is whether or not music is–or could be–used for social control. This was the general theme of the late Dave McGowan’s Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream

    https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

    McGowan noted a series of weird coincidences where many top pop artists from the 60s and 70s had connections to the military and intelligence services, for example, Mr. Light My Fire himself, Doors frontman Jim Morrison being the son of Admiral George Stephen Morrison, commander of the infamous Gulf of Tonkin destroyers.

    So, it’s interesting to discover another side to this story:

    Rear Admiral G.S. Morrison, father of Jim Morrison, was head of a Naval Task Force closest to the USS Liberty. He immediately scrambled fighter jets from the USS America, which was only 15 minutes away, to engage the Israeli jets that were attacking the USS Liberty. The order was then countermanded by Chief of US Naval Forces in Europe, Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., who was the father of US Senator John S. McCain, III.

    Rear Admiral Morrison was the youngest person to reach such a position in the Navy, but he was never given another promotion after the USS Liberty incident. Many people believe that his Naval career effectively ended at that time because he wanted to protect the USS Liberty, attack Israel, and set up an embargo of Israel.

    http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/Jim-Morrison-update-2016.html

    Here’s a sudden segue to Easy Listening to close this out:

    A growing awareness among the public that Muzak was targeted to manipulate behavior resulted in a backlash, including accusations of being a brainwashing technique and court challenges in the 1950s. However, the popularity of Muzak remained high through the mid-1960s. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first president to pump Muzak into the West Wing, and Lyndon B. Johnson owned the Muzak franchise in Austin, Texas. NASA reportedly used Muzak in many of its space missions to soothe astronauts and occupy periods of inactivity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzak

    So Muzak was used to manipulate behavior, but Rock never was.

    Amazing.

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  • @anarchyst
    I have great respect for classical musicians. However, I find it curious that most classical musicians cannot perform unless they have the sheet music in front of them. As a non-classical non-trained musician, I have taught truly talented classical musicians how to improvise and play songs by the Beatles and other rock performers not using sheet music.

    I always wondered why so many rock/pop musicians never seem able to play their recorded music the same live, or even the same way twice. I guess it’s improvisation in some cases, but I always thought it had more to do with not writing the music down to begin with, or not being able to play what was recorded in the studio.

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    There is more...most "top acts" utilize "studio musicians" who are the REAL talent behind the stars.
    A good example of this is the Motown "Funk Brothers" who gave Motown their sound, but were never recognized for their accomplishments...the TRUE talent behind Motown. Berry Gordy made MILLIONS while ignoring the true talent...
    Another example of this is that of the "Wrecking Crew"...the studio musicians who gave most of the 1960s and 1970s music acts their "sound. They too, were not recognized for their talent and accomplishments.
    Studio musicians are the true talent behind almost all music.
    THAT is why many live acts do not sound as good as in the studio.
    It is interesting to note that in Great Britain, the "Funk Brothers" are well-known by name and instruments, unlike their obscurity here in the USA.
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  • @Backwoods Bob
    I obviously haven't communicated well. I apologize.

    My family has some extreme talent, not me - and one at the New England Conservatory right now. He doesn't even listen to popular music. To call it trite would be an understatement, and it is the attitude of the professionals in the family and people like them that I am conveying.

    I've never called myself a musician, still don't. But I did produce two albums and my set list for performances was all songs I wrote myself at the end before I retired.

    When young, I did classical piano and viola. Played in an orchestra. But my heart was in combat sports and classical music was quite the bore. I was not talented at it.

    In college, I picked up a guitar. I discovered the magic. I thought it was hilarious. Lookit me ma! I'm a rock/blues guitarist!

    I had a tremendous amount of fun with 1-4-5 and you can see/feel people just pulling for the resolution... and you give it to 'em. Anyone can jump in and jam, they only have to know the key. The lead riffs off the fret boards from low E to high E are 0-3, 0-2, 0-2, 0-2, 0-3, 0-3 .

    With zero training and only knowing that much you can find the right fret and blaze leads off any song. With just two lead patterns you can do almost anything.

    I'm actually in hearty agreement with you. Me, the underperforming thug, with songs I wrote, played, and produced on the local radio. I've played live performances in several different countries, nobody has to know anything but the key and you can do ten minute songs with solos for every instrument, nobody ever having practiced together before.

    So I am not disparaging it. It is the professional classical musicians who did, and do - yet any old country boy can pick it up and make people sing/dance along. Isn't that great? Hence my smugness - lookit what I can do, despite the disparagement of pros in my own family.

    But to drop from this to the absolute nothing of rap... Rap does have rhythm, so it is similar to jungle drumming. But I have done group drumming too, it's a lot of fun, and seemed more of an accomplishment than rap. And without the social costs of rape, drugs, and mayhem.

    On modern art - yes. You'll see Paul Joseph Watson is in agreement with you and that is why I linked to his youtube.

    I have great respect for classical musicians. However, I find it curious that most classical musicians cannot perform unless they have the sheet music in front of them. As a non-classical non-trained musician, I have taught truly talented classical musicians how to improvise and play songs by the Beatles and other rock performers not using sheet music.

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    I always wondered why so many rock/pop musicians never seem able to play their recorded music the same live, or even the same way twice. I guess it's improvisation in some cases, but I always thought it had more to do with not writing the music down to begin with, or not being able to play what was recorded in the studio.
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  • Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    So GQ isn't a reliable source but the Nation of Islam newspaper is?

    God you are stupid. You are clear proof that Jews are not as smart as they like to think.

    I posted numerous sources for Iovine being a Jew.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    You posted numerous bogus sources.
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  • @Sparkon
    You missed my point.

    I'm not arguing that modern art has much merit--far from it-- but rather that the 1-4-5 chord progression is an entirely different ball of wax that does have a lot of merit, and I fail to see why you would disparage it, and in the bargain, mislead Jacques Sheete.

    Just as the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so too the proof of the music is in the listening, hence Twain's quip about Wagner. I would add that the proof of the art is in the viewing. If somebody--art critics--have to explain why a work of art is good, then of course you should ask yourself which to trust: your lying eyes, or the critics?

    If a parallel is to be drawn, then Rap and Modern Art do have at least one common thread, and it is African.

    I hasten to add that I rather liked the original Hip Hop hit Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang from 1979, but I had heard rapping already before that, in the Central Coast of all places, by 1975. The rapper turned out to be the prime suspect in the theft of our big JBL studio monitors: 'Never locked the doors in those days.

    Anyway, you wrote:

    I thought it smugly hilarious to play and sing in a band. I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff.
     
    I don't know why you would disparage the 1-4-5 chord progression as an insult to real musicians, except to imply that well, real musicians go on to bigger, better, and more complicated, obscure, difficult passages or chord progressions, which may make them feel more masterful, but which also may not sound that good. 1-4-5 is a basic and fundamental chord pattern learned by all musicians when starting out, which sounds pleasing to most ears, and which has been the framework for many popular songs.

    So you see it is the "insult to real musicians" part with which I am taking exception.

    Now, anyone can pick up a brush or pen and make a bunch of random marks on the canvas, and call it art. In fact, during the history of modern art, elephants and various other creatures have been trotted out to create modern art, and these spectacles have even been featured in the popular media.

    Bottom line: only a musician can play 1-4-5, but anybody can splatter paint on a canvas, and call it art.

    Learning how to draw, and learning how to play a musical instrument are both valid skills that take some effort, practice, and determination--call it 'hard work'-- to produce worthwhile results.

    Learning to draw never ends.
    --Hokusai
     
    Note that, in the wake of WWII, the newly formed CIA took up the task of promoting Abstract Expressionism--think Pollack's splatters--as a counter to the USSR's Socialist Realism.

    Tough work, but somebody had to do it, I guess, to keep those Reds in their place.

    I obviously haven’t communicated well. I apologize.

    My family has some extreme talent, not me – and one at the New England Conservatory right now. He doesn’t even listen to popular music. To call it trite would be an understatement, and it is the attitude of the professionals in the family and people like them that I am conveying.

    I’ve never called myself a musician, still don’t. But I did produce two albums and my set list for performances was all songs I wrote myself at the end before I retired.

    When young, I did classical piano and viola. Played in an orchestra. But my heart was in combat sports and classical music was quite the bore. I was not talented at it.

    In college, I picked up a guitar. I discovered the magic. I thought it was hilarious. Lookit me ma! I’m a rock/blues guitarist!

    I had a tremendous amount of fun with 1-4-5 and you can see/feel people just pulling for the resolution… and you give it to ‘em. Anyone can jump in and jam, they only have to know the key. The lead riffs off the fret boards from low E to high E are 0-3, 0-2, 0-2, 0-2, 0-3, 0-3 .

    With zero training and only knowing that much you can find the right fret and blaze leads off any song. With just two lead patterns you can do almost anything.

    I’m actually in hearty agreement with you. Me, the underperforming thug, with songs I wrote, played, and produced on the local radio. I’ve played live performances in several different countries, nobody has to know anything but the key and you can do ten minute songs with solos for every instrument, nobody ever having practiced together before.

    So I am not disparaging it. It is the professional classical musicians who did, and do – yet any old country boy can pick it up and make people sing/dance along. Isn’t that great? Hence my smugness – lookit what I can do, despite the disparagement of pros in my own family.

    But to drop from this to the absolute nothing of rap… Rap does have rhythm, so it is similar to jungle drumming. But I have done group drumming too, it’s a lot of fun, and seemed more of an accomplishment than rap. And without the social costs of rape, drugs, and mayhem.

    On modern art – yes. You’ll see Paul Joseph Watson is in agreement with you and that is why I linked to his youtube.

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    I have great respect for classical musicians. However, I find it curious that most classical musicians cannot perform unless they have the sheet music in front of them. As a non-classical non-trained musician, I have taught truly talented classical musicians how to improvise and play songs by the Beatles and other rock performers not using sheet music.
    , @Sparkon
    Thanks for your comments, Bob. Anyone with good pitch has a great gift, especially if you can play an instrument.

    Music is a universal language that can alter moods, stir the emotions, and get both drunk and sober out on the dance floor. So music is a viable force, or energy.

    Baby, you could light my fire.

    One big question, topical here, is whether or not music is--or could be--used for social control. This was the general theme of the late Dave McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream

    https://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122

    McGowan noted a series of weird coincidences where many top pop artists from the 60s and 70s had connections to the military and intelligence services, for example, Mr. Light My Fire himself, Doors frontman Jim Morrison being the son of Admiral George Stephen Morrison, commander of the infamous Gulf of Tonkin destroyers.

    So, it's interesting to discover another side to this story:


    Rear Admiral G.S. Morrison, father of Jim Morrison, was head of a Naval Task Force closest to the USS Liberty. He immediately scrambled fighter jets from the USS America, which was only 15 minutes away, to engage the Israeli jets that were attacking the USS Liberty. The order was then countermanded by Chief of US Naval Forces in Europe, Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., who was the father of US Senator John S. McCain, III.

    Rear Admiral Morrison was the youngest person to reach such a position in the Navy, but he was never given another promotion after the USS Liberty incident. Many people believe that his Naval career effectively ended at that time because he wanted to protect the USS Liberty, attack Israel, and set up an embargo of Israel.
     

    http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/Jim-Morrison-update-2016.html

    Here's a sudden segue to Easy Listening to close this out:


    A growing awareness among the public that Muzak was targeted to manipulate behavior resulted in a backlash, including accusations of being a brainwashing technique and court challenges in the 1950s. However, the popularity of Muzak remained high through the mid-1960s. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first president to pump Muzak into the West Wing, and Lyndon B. Johnson owned the Muzak franchise in Austin, Texas. NASA reportedly used Muzak in many of its space missions to soothe astronauts and occupy periods of inactivity.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzak

    So Muzak was used to manipulate behavior, but Rock never was.

    Amazing.

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  • For some reason this is the only blog post from this site I can’t read on my iPhone.

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  • @Wally
    That's laughable.

    Iovine is a Jew ... I was right.

    Hurts don't it.

    So GQ isn’t a reliable source but the Nation of Islam newspaper is?

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    God you are stupid. You are clear proof that Jews are not as smart as they like to think.

    I posted numerous sources for Iovine being a Jew.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
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  • @mcohen
    wally is owned

    http://www.gq.com/story/jimmy-iovine-men-of-the-year-icon

    That’s laughable.

    Iovine is a Jew … I was right.

    Hurts don’t it.

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    So GQ isn't a reliable source but the Nation of Islam newspaper is?
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  • @Backwoods Bob
    Maybe the point he is getting at is made by Paul Joseph Watson here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRWJcrRO0GM
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  • @SMK
    "Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years." Exactly what does he mean by "racism"? Exactly how has "racism" damaged the lives and communities of black and brown people during the last 10 years? Exactly how have Jared Taylor, Paul Kersey, Nicholas Stix, AR, SBPDL, and other "racists" and their writings and websites blighted and destroyed the lives of "black and brown" people over the last decade? And I wonder if Geraldo thinks of and defines himself as a "white Hispanic" or a "brown Hispanic"?

    “Geraldo Rivera” (actually Jerry Rivers) is a Jew…

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  • @Truth

    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art.

     

    I take it you are either under 30, or over 70.

    https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/rnwmk7/black-sabbath-most-important-band-ever

    http://www.theintellectualdevotional.com/blog/2009/10/07/its-hard-to-believe-it-now-but-people-once-took-ozzy-osbourne-very-seriously/

    The first link doesn’t work, but the second link is just about the trial over whether or not Osbourne’s lyrics caused a kid to commit suicide. That’s nowhere near the same treatment that rappers get.

    Nobody was claiming that Ozzy’s music is high art, or that he is some sort of cultural icon who speaks for the downtrodden. Nobody read genius into his lyrics or actions. He raised the ire of record burners, and that’s not the same having public intellectuals gush over him and ministers, politicians, academics and media types sing his praises. Ozzy had a goofy reality show, but that’s not on the same level as having a major motion picture made of his life, and having it sold as a major cultural event.

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  • @OilcanFloyd
    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art. I've never heard anyone talk about the healing power of Ozzy Osbourne, but I once worked in a warehouse with a black storefront preacher (he had the old Lincoln Town Car with Clergy stickers, chains, gold tooth and everything!) who gave me an unsolicited lecture on the healing power of rap. If hearing someone half-singing and half-talking about killing cops, hating whitey, killing other blacks, pimping and selling drugs, and doing whatever to bitches and hos to the scratching of records is therapeutic, then I think I have absolutely nothing in common with rap fans and much of the black community.

    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art.

    I take it you are either under 30, or over 70.

    https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/rnwmk7/black-sabbath-most-important-band-ever

    http://www.theintellectualdevotional.com/blog/2009/10/07/its-hard-to-believe-it-now-but-people-once-took-ozzy-osbourne-very-seriously/

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    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    The first link doesn't work, but the second link is just about the trial over whether or not Osbourne's lyrics caused a kid to commit suicide. That's nowhere near the same treatment that rappers get.

    Nobody was claiming that Ozzy's music is high art, or that he is some sort of cultural icon who speaks for the downtrodden. Nobody read genius into his lyrics or actions. He raised the ire of record burners, and that's not the same having public intellectuals gush over him and ministers, politicians, academics and media types sing his praises. Ozzy had a goofy reality show, but that's not on the same level as having a major motion picture made of his life, and having it sold as a major cultural event.
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  • @Backwoods Bob
    Maybe the point he is getting at is made by Paul Joseph Watson here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRWJcrRO0GM

    You missed my point.

    I’m not arguing that modern art has much merit–far from it– but rather that the 1-4-5 chord progression is an entirely different ball of wax that does have a lot of merit, and I fail to see why you would disparage it, and in the bargain, mislead Jacques Sheete.

    Just as the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so too the proof of the music is in the listening, hence Twain’s quip about Wagner. I would add that the proof of the art is in the viewing. If somebody–art critics–have to explain why a work of art is good, then of course you should ask yourself which to trust: your lying eyes, or the critics?

    If a parallel is to be drawn, then Rap and Modern Art do have at least one common thread, and it is African.

    I hasten to add that I rather liked the original Hip Hop hit Rapper’s Delight by the Sugarhill Gang from 1979, but I had heard rapping already before that, in the Central Coast of all places, by 1975. The rapper turned out to be the prime suspect in the theft of our big JBL studio monitors: ‘Never locked the doors in those days.

    Anyway, you wrote:

    I thought it smugly hilarious to play and sing in a band. I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff.

    I don’t know why you would disparage the 1-4-5 chord progression as an insult to real musicians, except to imply that well, real musicians go on to bigger, better, and more complicated, obscure, difficult passages or chord progressions, which may make them feel more masterful, but which also may not sound that good. 1-4-5 is a basic and fundamental chord pattern learned by all musicians when starting out, which sounds pleasing to most ears, and which has been the framework for many popular songs.

    So you see it is the “insult to real musicians” part with which I am taking exception.

    Now, anyone can pick up a brush or pen and make a bunch of random marks on the canvas, and call it art. In fact, during the history of modern art, elephants and various other creatures have been trotted out to create modern art, and these spectacles have even been featured in the popular media.

    Bottom line: only a musician can play 1-4-5, but anybody can splatter paint on a canvas, and call it art.

    Learning how to draw, and learning how to play a musical instrument are both valid skills that take some effort, practice, and determination–call it ‘hard work’– to produce worthwhile results.

    Learning to draw never ends.
    –Hokusai

    Note that, in the wake of WWII, the newly formed CIA took up the task of promoting Abstract Expressionism–think Pollack’s splatters–as a counter to the USSR’s Socialist Realism.

    Tough work, but somebody had to do it, I guess, to keep those Reds in their place.

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    I obviously haven't communicated well. I apologize.

    My family has some extreme talent, not me - and one at the New England Conservatory right now. He doesn't even listen to popular music. To call it trite would be an understatement, and it is the attitude of the professionals in the family and people like them that I am conveying.

    I've never called myself a musician, still don't. But I did produce two albums and my set list for performances was all songs I wrote myself at the end before I retired.

    When young, I did classical piano and viola. Played in an orchestra. But my heart was in combat sports and classical music was quite the bore. I was not talented at it.

    In college, I picked up a guitar. I discovered the magic. I thought it was hilarious. Lookit me ma! I'm a rock/blues guitarist!

    I had a tremendous amount of fun with 1-4-5 and you can see/feel people just pulling for the resolution... and you give it to 'em. Anyone can jump in and jam, they only have to know the key. The lead riffs off the fret boards from low E to high E are 0-3, 0-2, 0-2, 0-2, 0-3, 0-3 .

    With zero training and only knowing that much you can find the right fret and blaze leads off any song. With just two lead patterns you can do almost anything.

    I'm actually in hearty agreement with you. Me, the underperforming thug, with songs I wrote, played, and produced on the local radio. I've played live performances in several different countries, nobody has to know anything but the key and you can do ten minute songs with solos for every instrument, nobody ever having practiced together before.

    So I am not disparaging it. It is the professional classical musicians who did, and do - yet any old country boy can pick it up and make people sing/dance along. Isn't that great? Hence my smugness - lookit what I can do, despite the disparagement of pros in my own family.

    But to drop from this to the absolute nothing of rap... Rap does have rhythm, so it is similar to jungle drumming. But I have done group drumming too, it's a lot of fun, and seemed more of an accomplishment than rap. And without the social costs of rape, drugs, and mayhem.

    On modern art - yes. You'll see Paul Joseph Watson is in agreement with you and that is why I linked to his youtube.
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  • Unfortunately the author of the piece refers to corporate manipulation as “mainstream.” Otherwise, it’s a very informative article.

    Even movements or styles that are considered marginal are, in fact, extensions of mainstream thinking. Mass medias produce their own rebels who definitely look the part but are still part of the establishment and do not question any of it. Artists, creations and ideas that do not fit the mainstream way of thinking are mercilessly rejected and forgotten by the conglomerates, which in turn makes them virtually disappear from society itself. However, ideas that are deemed to be valid and desirable to be accepted by society are skillfully marketed to the masses in order to make them become self-evident norm. In 1928, Edward Bernays already saw the immense potential of motion pictures to standardize thought: “The American motion picture is the greatest unconscious carrier of propaganda in the world today. It is a great distributor for ideas and opinions. The motion picture can standardize the ideas and habits of a nation. Because pictures are made to meet market demands, they reflect, emphasize and even exaggerate broad popular tendencies, rather than stimulate new ideas and opinions. The motion picture avails itself only of ideas and facts which are in vogue. As the newspaper seeks to purvey news, it seeks to purvey entertainment.” – Edward Bernays, Propaganda These facts were flagged as dangers to human freedom in the 1930?s by thinkers of the school of Frankfurt such as Theodor Adorno and Herbert Marcuse. They identified three main problems with the cultural industry. The industry can:
    1. reduce human beings to the state of mass by hindering the development of emancipated individuals, who are capable of making rational decisions;
    2. replace the legitimate drive for autonomy and self-awareness by the safe laziness of conformism and passivity; and
    3. validate the idea that men actually seek to escape the absurd and cruel world in which they live by losing themselves in a hypnotic state self-satisfaction.
    The notion of escapism is even more relevant today with advent of online video games, 3D movies and home theaters. The masses, constantly seeking state-of-the-art entertainment, will resort to high-budget products that can only be produced by the biggest media corporations of the world. These products contain carefully calculated messages and symbols which are nothing more and nothing less than entertaining propaganda. The public have been trained to LOVE its propaganda to the extent that it spends its hard-earned money to be exposed to it.

    https://worldtruth.tv/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

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  • @Sparkon
    I think the 1-4-5 chord progression is a common and widely used standard, so it's a bridge too far between the obscure slashes, chromatic blobs, and colorful dribs and drabs of modern art, on the one side, and a widely used, and well-liked chord progression that is a long-established standard, on the other:

    For example, rock and blues musicians often think of the 12 bar blues as consisting of I, IV and V chords.
    --Wikipedia
     
    It's good to keep in mind Twain's quip about music that's better than it sounds. He was speaking of Wagner, but there is also a class of musicians who think that great music has to be complicated music, the kind of music that turns out to be better than it sounds.

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there's that.

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there’s that.

    I certainly hope so, (it would almost have to be), but to believe that, I’d like to see some evidence beyond that of what your average 3 year old produces.

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  • @Wally
    Wasn't / isn't Jimmie Iovine the money behind rap "music's" hate.

    Iovine is a Jew. Shocking, I know.

    more:
    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/uploads/2/deric_muhammad_2012_1.jpg
    portion:

    Jewish control over artists and entertainers has been the order of the day for much too long. Through the power of right guidance and unity we can break this cycle. But, if we remain disunited, we will pass down to the next generation another cultural force that is under the control of another people.
     
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    That's laughable.

    Iovine is a Jew ... I was right.

    Hurts don't it.

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  • @jacques sheete
    The article deals with a subject that bores me to tears, but the conclusion is pretty damned good.

    BTW, can anyone comment, debunk, or elaborate on this claim?:


    “…the [media] companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons …[they] recieved funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons.

    Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice.”

    http://worldtruth.tv/the-secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music-and-destroyed-a-generation/


     

    The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons.
    Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice

    Thanks for the article, the thesis of which may well be true. Going a bit OT but IMHO more interesting, is a thesis in the following link, namely “No, it’s *not* just a movie!”

    Found link:

    https://worldtruth.tv/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

    Possibly original source:

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

    I read it all and recommend it, as a lengthy explication of the Bernays haze, amongst other villainies. Enjoy.

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  • Hello Andrew Fraser,

    It would have been interesting if you would have written more about how Hip-Hop evolved from a genuine youthful black expression/revolt against the decadent and elitist late seventies Disco scene and how eventually it simply devolved into a orchestrated Cultural Marxist revolt against any sort of normative bourgeois values in black culture and music.

    Hip-Hop started out with entrepreneurial black DJs holding underground parties for young people who could not or did not want to attempt to get into upscale discotheques, often run by Jews like Studio 54, that catered to often degenerate elites and homosexuals. The first rap hits by groups like the Sugarhill Gang were remixes and samples of hit disco songs like Chic’s “Good Times”.

    However, overtime Hip-Hop/Rap began to mock and subvert classic old fashioned 70s R&B, Soul and Funk classics that had a broad mainstream/crossover appeal because of their basically middle class values. A prime example would be B-Rock and the Bizz’s 1997 hit “Just My Baby Daddy” a rip-off of the Earth Wind & Fire/Emotions classic “Best of My Love”, a song that was a wedding reception standard for decades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Baby_Daddy

    Hip-Hop/Rap to many is just a casebook example of a Cultural Marxist degenerate long march against any sort of middle class value in pop culture.

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  • @Truth

    Say what you want, but the lowest white culture is still light years ahead of rap.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-iTnBXVXXE

    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art. I’ve never heard anyone talk about the healing power of Ozzy Osbourne, but I once worked in a warehouse with a black storefront preacher (he had the old Lincoln Town Car with Clergy stickers, chains, gold tooth and everything!) who gave me an unsolicited lecture on the healing power of rap. If hearing someone half-singing and half-talking about killing cops, hating whitey, killing other blacks, pimping and selling drugs, and doing whatever to bitches and hos to the scratching of records is therapeutic, then I think I have absolutely nothing in common with rap fans and much of the black community.

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    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art.

     

    I take it you are either under 30, or over 70.

    https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/rnwmk7/black-sabbath-most-important-band-ever

    http://www.theintellectualdevotional.com/blog/2009/10/07/its-hard-to-believe-it-now-but-people-once-took-ozzy-osbourne-very-seriously/
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  • @Sparkon
    I think the 1-4-5 chord progression is a common and widely used standard, so it's a bridge too far between the obscure slashes, chromatic blobs, and colorful dribs and drabs of modern art, on the one side, and a widely used, and well-liked chord progression that is a long-established standard, on the other:

    For example, rock and blues musicians often think of the 12 bar blues as consisting of I, IV and V chords.
    --Wikipedia
     
    It's good to keep in mind Twain's quip about music that's better than it sounds. He was speaking of Wagner, but there is also a class of musicians who think that great music has to be complicated music, the kind of music that turns out to be better than it sounds.

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there's that.

    Maybe the point he is getting at is made by Paul Joseph Watson here:

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    You missed my point.

    I'm not arguing that modern art has much merit--far from it-- but rather that the 1-4-5 chord progression is an entirely different ball of wax that does have a lot of merit, and I fail to see why you would disparage it, and in the bargain, mislead Jacques Sheete.

    Just as the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so too the proof of the music is in the listening, hence Twain's quip about Wagner. I would add that the proof of the art is in the viewing. If somebody--art critics--have to explain why a work of art is good, then of course you should ask yourself which to trust: your lying eyes, or the critics?

    If a parallel is to be drawn, then Rap and Modern Art do have at least one common thread, and it is African.

    I hasten to add that I rather liked the original Hip Hop hit Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang from 1979, but I had heard rapping already before that, in the Central Coast of all places, by 1975. The rapper turned out to be the prime suspect in the theft of our big JBL studio monitors: 'Never locked the doors in those days.

    Anyway, you wrote:

    I thought it smugly hilarious to play and sing in a band. I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff.
     
    I don't know why you would disparage the 1-4-5 chord progression as an insult to real musicians, except to imply that well, real musicians go on to bigger, better, and more complicated, obscure, difficult passages or chord progressions, which may make them feel more masterful, but which also may not sound that good. 1-4-5 is a basic and fundamental chord pattern learned by all musicians when starting out, which sounds pleasing to most ears, and which has been the framework for many popular songs.

    So you see it is the "insult to real musicians" part with which I am taking exception.

    Now, anyone can pick up a brush or pen and make a bunch of random marks on the canvas, and call it art. In fact, during the history of modern art, elephants and various other creatures have been trotted out to create modern art, and these spectacles have even been featured in the popular media.

    Bottom line: only a musician can play 1-4-5, but anybody can splatter paint on a canvas, and call it art.

    Learning how to draw, and learning how to play a musical instrument are both valid skills that take some effort, practice, and determination--call it 'hard work'-- to produce worthwhile results.

    Learning to draw never ends.
    --Hokusai
     
    Note that, in the wake of WWII, the newly formed CIA took up the task of promoting Abstract Expressionism--think Pollack's splatters--as a counter to the USSR's Socialist Realism.

    Tough work, but somebody had to do it, I guess, to keep those Reds in their place.
    , @Priss Factor
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/women-become-more-promiscuous-in-relationships-men-become-less-promiscuous/
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  • Say what you want, but the lowest white culture is still light years ahead of rap.

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    People like Ozzy are harmless showbiz buffoons and everyone knows it. Nobody ever tries to intellectualize him or claim that his music is art. I've never heard anyone talk about the healing power of Ozzy Osbourne, but I once worked in a warehouse with a black storefront preacher (he had the old Lincoln Town Car with Clergy stickers, chains, gold tooth and everything!) who gave me an unsolicited lecture on the healing power of rap. If hearing someone half-singing and half-talking about killing cops, hating whitey, killing other blacks, pimping and selling drugs, and doing whatever to bitches and hos to the scratching of records is therapeutic, then I think I have absolutely nothing in common with rap fans and much of the black community.
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  • @Truth



    I agree that hip-hop is an authentic part of the black community, and I have no interest in helping or being around a community that elevates such garbage, whether I am hated in that community or not.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3LvhdFEOqs

    I guess the point of posting the video is to compare the music to rap, but I don’t really think there is a comparison. I’m no fan of Ozzy Osbourne, but at least his song is music, and the lyrics make some sort of sense. Rap is just profane garbage, and nobody ever tried to intellectualize Ozzy Osbourne. Say what you want, but the lowest white culture is still light years ahead of rap.

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  • @jacques sheete

    I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff.
     
    That supports my suspicions about modern "art" as well. Pure garbage marketed to the ignorant, quasi-intellectual droolers who think they're being kool while being duped and milked.

    I think the 1-4-5 chord progression is a common and widely used standard, so it’s a bridge too far between the obscure slashes, chromatic blobs, and colorful dribs and drabs of modern art, on the one side, and a widely used, and well-liked chord progression that is a long-established standard, on the other:

    For example, rock and blues musicians often think of the 12 bar blues as consisting of I, IV and V chords.
    –Wikipedia

    It’s good to keep in mind Twain’s quip about music that’s better than it sounds. He was speaking of Wagner, but there is also a class of musicians who think that great music has to be complicated music, the kind of music that turns out to be better than it sounds.

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there’s that.

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    • Replies: @Backwoods Bob
    Maybe the point he is getting at is made by Paul Joseph Watson here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRWJcrRO0GM
    , @jacques sheete

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there's that.
     
    I certainly hope so, (it would almost have to be), but to believe that, I'd like to see some evidence beyond that of what your average 3 year old produces.
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  • Its a shame when a Jew (or WASP) exchange their devotion to God for devotion to communism. Communism always used Machiavellian means in attempt to gain control of its host society. Many Communist leaders have been manipulating African Americans, to socially destabilize American and Christian culture, for at least the last fifty years now. When some African Americans become aware of this, they turn their resentment towards all Jews (thus, answering the article’s question: no, hip hop is not good for Jews, because all Jews are blamed for destructive Communist actions). Then the Communist Jews express dismay that the African Americans are “biting the hand that feeds them”. This is disingenuous, because using a group for political purposes is not synonymous with taking care of them. They want African Americans to be hostile towards whitey, in order to destabilize their host society, but panic when they can no longer control this unruly Frankenstein monster. Jews ruined themselves with communism, then ruined the Blacks with communism, who end up resenting all Jews (along with the rest of whitey). It is amazing that this failed discredited ideology still has enough influence to cause so much damage. What a mess.

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  • @Henry's Cat

    Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value.
     
    Nursery rhymes, in other words.

    Doggerel, in one.

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  • @Jake
    The first comment here calls this a 'rambling article.'

    Ah, the joy of short attention span!

    Of course hip hop is cultural poison. It also is not truly new to blacks. There is a long history of black street culture that is filled with verbal violence and sexual preening, and that often led to actual violence. The filth of 'the dozens' and 'the signifying monkey' and other native black verbal trash was central to the cultural backgrounds of people like Martin Luther King - which helps explain why he off the public stage always used excessive profanity and also why he always talked about sexual seduction, sexual power, sexual acts.

    That is who blacks are when they are not 'forced' to act at least partly white.

    As for WASPs - they made blacks the nation's sacred cows. This was not done to WASPs by Jews. WASPs began this mess. Jews have figured out how to get rich at the game and survive it. But Jews could not play the game if WASPs had not made it central to American democracy.

    There is a long history of black street culture that is filled with verbal violence and sexual preening…

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  • @Wally
    So now you think there are no 'Italian' Jews? Laughable.

    Still owning you.

    Still owning you.

    LOL, good choice of ebonics, there, Fiddy.

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  • @OilcanFloyd
    Anyone who has ever heard Michael Eric Dyson's radio program should know that he is not a scholar at all, or a Christian in any real sense. I don't know anything about this Rose lady, but I imagine the same is true of her, and just about anyone else who studies hip-hop.

    The people running the major Christian denominations are destroying their own religion by embracing war and abandoning their flock in favor of others. I see no reason to go to church.

    I agree that hip-hop is an authentic part of the black community, and I have no interest in helping or being around a community that elevates such garbage, whether I am hated in that community or not.

    How can a whole nation or civilization devote generations of fortune and effort on what amounts to trying to jam a square peg into a round hole?

    I agree that hip-hop is an authentic part of the black community, and I have no interest in helping or being around a community that elevates such garbage, whether I am hated in that community or not.

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    I guess the point of posting the video is to compare the music to rap, but I don't really think there is a comparison. I'm no fan of Ozzy Osbourne, but at least his song is music, and the lyrics make some sort of sense. Rap is just profane garbage, and nobody ever tried to intellectualize Ozzy Osbourne. Say what you want, but the lowest white culture is still light years ahead of rap.
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  • I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff.

    That supports my suspicions about modern “art” as well. Pure garbage marketed to the ignorant, quasi-intellectual droolers who think they’re being kool while being duped and milked.

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    • Replies: @Sparkon
    I think the 1-4-5 chord progression is a common and widely used standard, so it's a bridge too far between the obscure slashes, chromatic blobs, and colorful dribs and drabs of modern art, on the one side, and a widely used, and well-liked chord progression that is a long-established standard, on the other:

    For example, rock and blues musicians often think of the 12 bar blues as consisting of I, IV and V chords.
    --Wikipedia
     
    It's good to keep in mind Twain's quip about music that's better than it sounds. He was speaking of Wagner, but there is also a class of musicians who think that great music has to be complicated music, the kind of music that turns out to be better than it sounds.

    Come to think of it, modern art is better than it looks, so there's that.

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  • @Dreadnought
    Iovine is an Italian Catholic. He graduated from Bishop Ford High in Brooklyn.

    I worked for Iovins family many years ago, and they were the nicest people I ever met. So I think
    Wally you are mistaken.

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  • The beauty of rap is not having to know anything about music.

    Coming from a musical family I thought it smugly hilarious to play and sing in a band. I wrote almost everything in 1-4-5 chord patterns, an insult to real musicians but to the bar scene it’s just magical stuff. The lyrics too, absolutely banal. ” I’m gonna drink you pretty”. Intermixed with some George Thoroughgood. I always wondered if he was doing the same thing I was – having a laugh being vapid.

    That was the worst I could do. When I actiually tried, I played classical piano. But rap – it isn’t music. It isn’t poetry. It does not even rise to the level of worm food, in my ever humble opinion. And these guys aren’t joking.

    I had great fun with BB King, Bo Diddly, Albert King – they could actually play instruments and sing. Lots of great Jazz men too.

    But rap – it represents a decline in civilization. Just look at the lyrics. A celebration of criminal ignorance.

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  • @Anonymous White Male
    Critics make a living out of promoting certain artists above others. Their verbiage is so constructed to imply that the product is more "intellectual", "innovative", "exciting", or a representation of "genius". Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value. However, because the introduction of this primitive and alien noise was deemed useful in brainwashing young Whites, critics reframed it as "authentic", "visceral", "vital", any masturbatory adjective that could elevate feces to the level of "art". Just like in the way those who must not be named introduced blues, R & B, and rock n' roll into the national dialogue. Establishing an artistic and moral equivalence with the great White musical forms was vital in the deconstructionism of White culture.

    Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value.

    Nursery rhymes, in other words.

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    Doggerel, in one.
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  • @Anon
    Pretty sure "Iovine" is an Italian name.

    And you're reading The Final Call now? The Nation of Islam newspaper? Did your subscription to Muhammad Speaks run out?

    So now you think there are no ‘Italian’ Jews? Laughable.

    Still owning you.

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    Still owning you.
     
    LOL, good choice of ebonics, there, Fiddy.
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  • @Anon
    Lots of Jews send their kids to Catholic schools, I suppose?

    Good sources you cited there...

    Yes, Jews go to catholic schools.

    Why I Liked Being Jewish at an All-Boys Catholic School

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/why-i-liked-being-jewish-at-an-all-boys-catholic-school-6717278

    I Send My Jewish Son to Catholic School

    http://www.kveller.com/i-send-my-jewish-son-to-catholic-school/

    My Jewish Daughter Attends Catholic School And Loves It

    http://www.mommyish.com/2011/09/28/my-jewish-daughter-attends-catholic-school-and-loves-it-602/

    Google search: jews at catholic schools

    Iovine is a Jew.

    Still owning you.

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  • @Selvar
    There is much similarity between Alt Right Troll Culture and hip hop. Alt Right troll culture enables young white men with little regard for propriety to fight back against their dispossession as hip hop once allowed young black men to do so, before it inevitably became commercialized. Also, like hip hop, Alt Right troll culture is extremely crass and pornographic, and is generally disliked by the more traditional WNs and rightists

    It even has it's own edgy songs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WXV1PxUiAM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3B85zur1jA&t=106s

    Thanks for the links to the great music, Normie.

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  • There is much similarity between Alt Right Troll Culture and hip hop. Alt Right troll culture enables young white men with little regard for propriety to fight back against their dispossession as hip hop once allowed young black men to do so, before it inevitably became commercialized. Also, like hip hop, Alt Right troll culture is extremely crass and pornographic, and is generally disliked by the more traditional WNs and rightists

    It even has it’s own edgy songs:

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    Thanks for the links to the great music, Normie.
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  • SMK says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer
    Like most, I ended up skimming this rambling article. But it did remind me of an old blog post:

    Jun 13, 2015 - Geraldo Hates Hip Hop

    I dislike Geraldo Rivera for his fake news reports and war cheerleading, but that is required for all prominent American “newsmen” these days. Yet he recently said that hip hop has done more damage to minorities than racism. This was ignored by the corporate media and Rivera was not denounced and forced to resign because of his minority status. This short clip of his comments deserves national debate. Note the shocked reaction of the interviewer who knows to move on and avoid that subject.

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    The great video has disappeared from this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/geraldo-rivera-hip-hop-racism_n_6701628.html

    But the content remains:

    Geraldo Rivera: ‘Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black And Brown People Than Racism In The Last 10 Years’

    By Ryan Buxton

    Geraldo Rivera doesn’t exactly seem like a pre-eminent authority on rap culture, but he has some very interesting thoughts about hip-hop, which he shared with HuffPost Live on Tuesday.

    During a conversation about his stint on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” Rivera got to talking politics with host Josh Zepps, who asked where Rivera falls on the liberal-to-conservative spectrum. Rivera described himself as “militant moderate,” and after pointing out several of his more liberal philosophies, he laid out his problem with rap culture.

    “Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years,” Rivera began. The Fox News contributor then challenged anyone to find “a youngster — a Puerto Rican from the South Bronx or a black kid from Harlem who has succeeded in life other than being the one-tenth of one-tenth of one percent that make it in the music business — that’s been a success in life walking around with his pants around his ass and with visible tattoos...”

    Rivera added that the most powerful men in hip-hop are responsible for pushing young minorities too far out of the dominant culture.

    “And I love Russell Simmons,” Rivera continued. “He’s a dear friend of mine. I admire his business acumen. At some point, those guys have to cop to the fact that by encouraging this distinctive culture that is removed from the mainstream, they have encouraged people to be so different from the mainstream that they can’t participate other than, you know, the racks in the garment center and those entry-level jobs, and I lament it. I really do. I think that it has been very destructive culturally.”

    “Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years.” Exactly what does he mean by “racism”? Exactly how has “racism” damaged the lives and communities of black and brown people during the last 10 years? Exactly how have Jared Taylor, Paul Kersey, Nicholas Stix, AR, SBPDL, and other “racists” and their writings and websites blighted and destroyed the lives of “black and brown” people over the last decade? And I wonder if Geraldo thinks of and defines himself as a “white Hispanic” or a “brown Hispanic”?

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    "Geraldo Rivera" (actually Jerry Rivers) is a Jew...
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  • @Wally
    Wrong. Absolutely.
    Stop reading Zionist run Wikipedia.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    https://www.evi.com/q/is_jimmy_iovine_jewish_or_italian

    http://www.f169bbs.com/bbs/news/164777-you-never-see-dr-dre-without-his-jew-puppet-master-jimmy-iovine-straight-outta-compton-more-like-straight-outta-jerusalem

    http://thenetworth.net/jimmy-iovine-net-worth/

    Lots of Jews send their kids to Catholic schools, I suppose?

    Good sources you cited there…

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Yes, Jews go to catholic schools.

    Why I Liked Being Jewish at an All-Boys Catholic School
    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/why-i-liked-being-jewish-at-an-all-boys-catholic-school-6717278

    I Send My Jewish Son to Catholic School
    http://www.kveller.com/i-send-my-jewish-son-to-catholic-school/

    My Jewish Daughter Attends Catholic School And Loves It
    http://www.mommyish.com/2011/09/28/my-jewish-daughter-attends-catholic-school-and-loves-it-602/

    Google search: jews at catholic schools

    Iovine is a Jew.

    Still owning you.

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  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    Black culture? What’s that? Is that like unicorns?

    There hasn’t been a truly authentic and autonomous black intellectual culture ever since Booker T. Washington’s concept of education and self help was totally displaced by the Marxist concept of victimology that has been most prominently promoted by the National Association of Colored People (NAACP) starting way back in the early part of the twentieth century. Booker Washington’s organization received a significant amount of its funding from white gentiles like Andrew Carnegie. These well meaning gentile contributors allowed the very forceful Booker Washington to run his own organization with few strings attached. That wasn’t to be the case with the NAACP however.

    The NAACP is an especially interesting example of how blacks don’t really now control or have ever controlled any of the “acceptable” major civil rights (CORE SNCC) or cultural organizations that supposedly represent their interests. The NAACP never really was a black organization simply because its actual leadership has never really black. Instead it was controlled by those who funded it. If memory serves me correctly, the NAACP’s first five leaders were in fact white Jews and at one time the only black member on its board of directors was W.E.B. DuBois. (The NAACP is also a curious organization because very few blacks are actually dues paying member of it.)

    When the NAACP finally succumbed, kicking and screaming, to pressure to allow a back man to head it in the latter years of the 20th century, its Jewish controllers did so VERY unwillingly. When it did did happen, they made sure to only appoint very compliant black leaders and keep them on a very short, but very well paid leash that did not endanger the Jewish interest in promoting victim hood .

    Once in a while this didn’t work out. When Gus Savage, the only truly independent black NAACP head, left the plantation several decades ago and said some things that were against these Jewish interests, his dismissal and the character assassination that was used to justify it was truly brutal and savage. He he never recovered his reputation from this brutal attack and he became a non-person, never to be mentioned in the media or given a public audience ever again, (sorta like Mel Gibson in spades.) He was definitely made an example to those who would stray. Since then, any black NAACP director who has strayed even an iota from the victimology ethos was quickly dispatched. Julian Bond was probably its most well known and long serving recent head. He was also known as a compliant “house nigger”, and pseuo-radical who was always careful to get pre-approval for anything he was about to say to the media to protect his very well paid position, just as he had done before while a member of Congress.

    Eric Dyson is only one of a long line of well paid black clowns who know that their financial well beings (and in many cases their attempts at getting academic tenure) are totally dependent on toeing the line that his “deep state” sponsors find acceptable. His whole livelihood is totally dependent on getting on TV to publicize whatever books he has written or lucrative lectures he is about to give. He has to play up to what is expected of him to say about gangster rap, which is of course (duh) to approve it. Gangster rap is to be admired because Organized Jewry has deemed that that gangster rap is “good for Jews” because, among other reasons. it keeps blacks angry and therefore on their totally controlled Democratic Party feedlot. Gangster rap also promotes violence which is considered “good for Jews” because it degrades white culture as well as well as black culture at the same time. (The same thing goes for the effects of pornography.) Gangster rap makes white gentiles afraid and increasingly willing to be submissive to authority. Therefore it is inherently good for our masters.

    We all already know that gangster rap is bad for society in general and blacks in particular. This is obvious (just like we know that drinking bleach is bad for us) but any discussion is simply not part of the equation. It simply doesn’t matter to those in control. It is totally irrelevant. What is good for us in the majority simply doesn’t matter any longer.

    The George Soros sponsored “Black Lives Matter” movement follows the same line. Its only qualification is whether it is good for for certain folks. The main effect of the BLM movement seems to have been that police no longer really patrol in dangerous black neighbors out of fear of being called “racists”. These police now ignore crimes that they used to arrest people for (prostitution, shoplifting etc) therefore making these neighborhoods even more dysfunctional, gang controlled, and unsafe. BLM is therefore a definite detriment overall to the black community but fact that is totally ignored by the our controlled MSM which still praises it.

    But that doesn’t really matter because this growing disruption is considered a benefit by the “shadow government” behind BLM of which Soros is actually only a figurehead ( and possibly only a minimal part. You don’t think that greedy bastard is using his own money to fund it do you?) What the shadow government is hoping for a total breakdown of society so they will sought out to restore order but under their total control. Sort of like a twenty first decade version of the CHECKA.

    https://radioislam.org/thetruth/naacp.htm

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    • Replies: @Junior
    Great post! I hadn't heard of Gus Savage before, so thanks for sharing his story.

    Posts like this, with people sharing informative knowledge that sends me off researching topics to find out more, are why I always return to Unz Review.
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  • @owen
    Leaving aside a discussion of hip-hop itself, I was fascinated to discover that the short, rhythmic prose we associate with rap music has a history going back to John Skelton in the 1500's. Some examples of his work:

    Or if he speaketh plain
    Then he lacketh brain
    He is but a fool
    Let him go to school.

    My name is Colin Clout.
    I purpose to shake out
    All my cunning bag,
    Like a clerkly hag ;
    For though my rhyme be ragged,
    Tattered and jagged,
    Rudely rain beaten,
    Rusty and moth-eaten,
    If ye take well therewith,
    It hath in it some pith.

    see an article here: http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/02/04/poets-john-skelton/

    Critics make a living out of promoting certain artists above others. Their verbiage is so constructed to imply that the product is more “intellectual”, “innovative”, “exciting”, or a representation of “genius”. Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value. However, because the introduction of this primitive and alien noise was deemed useful in brainwashing young Whites, critics reframed it as “authentic”, “visceral”, “vital”, any masturbatory adjective that could elevate feces to the level of “art”. Just like in the way those who must not be named introduced blues, R & B, and rock n’ roll into the national dialogue. Establishing an artistic and moral equivalence with the great White musical forms was vital in the deconstructionism of White culture.

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    Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value.
     
    Nursery rhymes, in other words.
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  • @Anonymous White Male
    This is mental masturbation. The attempt to intellectualize something with no higher meaning than muthaf***er, muhdik, bitch, and gibsmedat is an attempt to elevate a type of noise with no higher qualities to a philosophy. Face it, "crap" is nothing more than "look at me" that your masters recognize has a corrosive effect on your culture and serves to coarsen social interactions. So they raise entire generations on it as "their" music so they will be dumbed down to the level of blacks.

    The attempt to intellectualize something with no higher meaning than [garbage]…

    That is not only true, but a sick characteristic of “modern” Western “arts” in general, and too often, “science” (e.g., IQ testing) as well. When such offal has been pushed into our faces 24/7, further degeneration is inevitably self amplifying.

    None of this is the fault of Jews alone. In fact, decent Jews are no doubt affected as adversely by the sewage as everyone else.

    Yakov Rabkin, a professor of history at the University of Montreal. The central theme of [ Yakov Rabkin’s] book is how Zionists have exploited Judaism and western traditions to offer Israel as a liberal democracy when it is actually a nationalist colonialists project hanging on by its paranoid fingernails.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/devastating-tradition-liberalism/

    Not only have Zionists exploited Judaism, but so have a wide variety of money grubbers and decent Jews would do well to continue to stand up to the Synagogue of Satan.

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  • Leaving aside a discussion of hip-hop itself, I was fascinated to discover that the short, rhythmic prose we associate with rap music has a history going back to John Skelton in the 1500′s. Some examples of his work:

    Or if he speaketh plain
    Then he lacketh brain
    He is but a fool
    Let him go to school.

    My name is Colin Clout.
    I purpose to shake out
    All my cunning bag,
    Like a clerkly hag ;
    For though my rhyme be ragged,
    Tattered and jagged,
    Rudely rain beaten,
    Rusty and moth-eaten,
    If ye take well therewith,
    It hath in it some pith.

    see an article here: http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/02/04/poets-john-skelton/

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    Critics make a living out of promoting certain artists above others. Their verbiage is so constructed to imply that the product is more "intellectual", "innovative", "exciting", or a representation of "genius". Prior to the early days of rap and hip-hop, lyrics or poetry that consisted of standard rap sloganeering would have been condemned as childish, formulaic, cliched, banal, and with no redeeming social value. However, because the introduction of this primitive and alien noise was deemed useful in brainwashing young Whites, critics reframed it as "authentic", "visceral", "vital", any masturbatory adjective that could elevate feces to the level of "art". Just like in the way those who must not be named introduced blues, R & B, and rock n' roll into the national dialogue. Establishing an artistic and moral equivalence with the great White musical forms was vital in the deconstructionism of White culture.
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  • @Dreadnought
    Iovine is an Italian Catholic. He graduated from Bishop Ford High in Brooklyn.
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    Lots of Jews send their kids to Catholic schools, I suppose?

    Good sources you cited there...

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  • @Wally
    Wasn't / isn't Jimmie Iovine the money behind rap "music's" hate.

    Iovine is a Jew. Shocking, I know.

    more:
    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/uploads/2/deric_muhammad_2012_1.jpg
    portion:

    Jewish control over artists and entertainers has been the order of the day for much too long. Through the power of right guidance and unity we can break this cycle. But, if we remain disunited, we will pass down to the next generation another cultural force that is under the control of another people.
     

    Pretty sure “Iovine” is an Italian name.

    And you’re reading The Final Call now? The Nation of Islam newspaper? Did your subscription to Muhammad Speaks run out?

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    So now you think there are no 'Italian' Jews? Laughable.

    Still owning you.
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I read this on another website. I wonder why he calls it hip hop. It’s been called rap since the mid 1980s. I agree with what he said. And why claim its against wasp culture? It’s against all White culture and civilization.

    Personally, my biggest concern is H 1 B visas, affirmative action and the invasion by non Whites who are instantly given affirmative action preference There is a big Tesla plant in Fremont Ca. It sounded great, all sorts of skilled well paid jobs. But the employees work for sub sub sub contractors, not Tesla. And most are Eastern Europeans on visas.

    Rap is horrible in every way. Let the blacks destroy themselves with it. What I have against the music and entertainment industry is that much of the obscene profits go to AIPAC , ADL, AJC, SPLC, and Friends of the IDF, all anti White organizations.

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    • Replies: @anarchyst
    Let's not forget those who name their children "Shontavius", Le Toilet" and "D'ontavius". We cannot forget another memorable name "L-a" (pronounced La-Dash-a). I'm not kidding. That last name is registered in the Bureau of Vital Statistics (on a birth certificate) in a midwestern state.
    With names like that, they are instantly distinguishable on a resume...and instantly throw "affirmative action" out the window...a good thing, I suppose...
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  • “Hip-hop” is spoken word lyrics set to a “beat”.
    It is those in the recording industry that promote “rap” to debase the culture.
    We are at war with “you know who”…

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  • Hip-hop or “rap” is profitable cacophony- the counter-cultural equivalent to “Jewish lightning” in the insurance industry.

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  • There is some really good hip/hop out there: Saul Williams has been penning intelligent and more thought provoking rap/hip-hop for years. Roots Manuva (Rodney H. Smith) also comes to mind. KRS One, of course. Smaller labels but with a loyal fan base.

    Saul Williams:

    This kind of self criticism Mr. Williams presents would not be welcomed mainstream.

    Roots Manuva:

    If you listen to only one from KRS One, “Know Thyself” is very powerful. He gives good advice to all races not just his own.

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  • This is mental masturbation. The attempt to intellectualize something with no higher meaning than muthaf***er, muhdik, bitch, and gibsmedat is an attempt to elevate a type of noise with no higher qualities to a philosophy. Face it, “crap” is nothing more than “look at me” that your masters recognize has a corrosive effect on your culture and serves to coarsen social interactions. So they raise entire generations on it as “their” music so they will be dumbed down to the level of blacks.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    The attempt to intellectualize something with no higher meaning than [garbage]...
     
    That is not only true, but a sick characteristic of "modern" Western "arts" in general, and too often, "science" (e.g., IQ testing) as well. When such offal has been pushed into our faces 24/7, further degeneration is inevitably self amplifying.

    None of this is the fault of Jews alone. In fact, decent Jews are no doubt affected as adversely by the sewage as everyone else.

    Yakov Rabkin, a professor of history at the University of Montreal. The central theme of [ Yakov Rabkin’s] book is how Zionists have exploited Judaism and western traditions to offer Israel as a liberal democracy when it is actually a nationalist colonialists project hanging on by its paranoid fingernails.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/devastating-tradition-liberalism/
     
    Not only have Zionists exploited Judaism, but so have a wide variety of money grubbers and decent Jews would do well to continue to stand up to the Synagogue of Satan.
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  • The first comment here calls this a ‘rambling article.’

    Ah, the joy of short attention span!

    Of course hip hop is cultural poison. It also is not truly new to blacks. There is a long history of black street culture that is filled with verbal violence and sexual preening, and that often led to actual violence. The filth of ‘the dozens’ and ‘the signifying monkey’ and other native black verbal trash was central to the cultural backgrounds of people like Martin Luther King – which helps explain why he off the public stage always used excessive profanity and also why he always talked about sexual seduction, sexual power, sexual acts.

    That is who blacks are when they are not ‘forced’ to act at least partly white.

    As for WASPs – they made blacks the nation’s sacred cows. This was not done to WASPs by Jews. WASPs began this mess. Jews have figured out how to get rich at the game and survive it. But Jews could not play the game if WASPs had not made it central to American democracy.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    There is a long history of black street culture that is filled with verbal violence and sexual preening...
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhJ69mD7xI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQcgcmZvv28
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  • The international Jew is never more at home than when he is putting nastiness and ugliness up on a pedestal, when he is corrupting culture, ruining the arts, or drowning innocence with perversion and corruption

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  • @Wally
    Wasn't / isn't Jimmie Iovine the money behind rap "music's" hate.

    Iovine is a Jew. Shocking, I know.

    more:
    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/uploads/2/deric_muhammad_2012_1.jpg
    portion:

    Jewish control over artists and entertainers has been the order of the day for much too long. Through the power of right guidance and unity we can break this cycle. But, if we remain disunited, we will pass down to the next generation another cultural force that is under the control of another people.
     

    Thank you, Wally! It may not be a conspiracy; but there certainly is a pattern.

    Truth is, most rappers are broke; owing more money to their record labels than they have in their bank accounts. As a matter of fact, most contracts for rappers are just as horrible as those for entertainers in other genres where artists sell millions and receive pennies while the record companies make out like fat rats. Who are the owners of these major record companies? Forgive me if I sound monotonous, but they just happen to be…

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

    Not only do the artists get ripped off. Even geniuses such as the radio engineer, Edwin Howard Armstrong, the inventor of FM radio and super heterodyne circuitry were taken advantage of by unscrupulous moneybag greaseballs.

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  • @Wally
    Wasn't / isn't Jimmie Iovine the money behind rap "music's" hate.

    Iovine is a Jew. Shocking, I know.

    more:
    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/uploads/2/deric_muhammad_2012_1.jpg
    portion:

    Jewish control over artists and entertainers has been the order of the day for much too long. Through the power of right guidance and unity we can break this cycle. But, if we remain disunited, we will pass down to the next generation another cultural force that is under the control of another people.
     

    Iovine is an Italian Catholic. He graduated from Bishop Ford High in Brooklyn.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Wrong. Absolutely.
    Stop reading Zionist run Wikipedia.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    https://www.evi.com/q/is_jimmy_iovine_jewish_or_italian

    http://www.f169bbs.com/bbs/news/164777-you-never-see-dr-dre-without-his-jew-puppet-master-jimmy-iovine-straight-outta-compton-more-like-straight-outta-jerusalem

    http://thenetworth.net/jimmy-iovine-net-worth/

    , @katmat
    I worked for Iovins family many years ago, and they were the nicest people I ever met. So I think
    Wally you are mistaken.
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  • I too had to skim through it to get to Mike Jones’s accurate assessment–that untalented, dime-a-dozen hip hop “artists” are Jewish cannon fodder in the Jews’ covert genocide against whites of European ancestry in America.

    By controlling the media and universities, the former are also able to neutralize powerful, native white leadership by opposing black and Jewish racists with sub-beta, “pajama boy” males of European ancestry, such as Andrew Root. For that matter, most white males in Congress were pre-selected behind closed doors before voters ever heard of them for having this array of submissive traits.

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  • Hmmmm… Here’s more…

    Well, it’s an interesting picture for African American youth in that they consistently drink less than youth in general. And yet our studies of their exposure to alcohol advertising have shown, over and over, again, that they’re getting exposed to considerably more than youth in general. In fact, when we looked at magazines in 2002, we found that African Americans youth ages 12 to 20 were exposed to 66 percent more advertising for beer and ale, and 81 percent more advertising for distilled spirits. And the heaviest overexposure that they get is for the cognacs and the brandies, which have been very tied in with the hip hop and rap culture.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5390075

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  • The article deals with a subject that bores me to tears, but the conclusion is pretty damned good.

    BTW, can anyone comment, debunk, or elaborate on this claim?:

    “…the [media] companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons …[they] recieved funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons.

    Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice.”

    http://worldtruth.tv/the-secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music-and-destroyed-a-generation/

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    The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons.
    Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice
     
    Thanks for the article, the thesis of which may well be true. Going a bit OT but IMHO more interesting, is a thesis in the following link, namely "No, it's *not* just a movie!"

    Found link:

    https://worldtruth.tv/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

    Possibly original source:

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/

    I read it all and recommend it, as a lengthy explication of the Bernays haze, amongst other villainies. Enjoy.
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  • Anyone who has ever heard Michael Eric Dyson’s radio program should know that he is not a scholar at all, or a Christian in any real sense. I don’t know anything about this Rose lady, but I imagine the same is true of her, and just about anyone else who studies hip-hop.

    The people running the major Christian denominations are destroying their own religion by embracing war and abandoning their flock in favor of others. I see no reason to go to church.

    I agree that hip-hop is an authentic part of the black community, and I have no interest in helping or being around a community that elevates such garbage, whether I am hated in that community or not.

    How can a whole nation or civilization devote generations of fortune and effort on what amounts to trying to jam a square peg into a round hole?

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    I agree that hip-hop is an authentic part of the black community, and I have no interest in helping or being around a community that elevates such garbage, whether I am hated in that community or not.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3LvhdFEOqs
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  • “These Black writers describe hip-hop as a primary means by which Americans talk about race. “

    No, hip-hop is how we are supposed to accept race in America. It’s not so much a discussion or talk as it is a broadcast of one point of view.

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  • Not even sure what exactly WASP means I wondered what Hip Hop is.
    Even the oracle wiki does not explain much, I suppose it is one of those things one must have seen to know what it is, as psychotic meant nothing to me until I met a really psychotic person.
    But reading al this remembered
    Melville J. Herskovits, ‘The Myth of the Negro Past’, 1941, 1958, Boston.
    It quite some time ago I read the book, but if I remember correctly I shows that black people in the USA are different, that contrary to popular thought they did take their culture with them from Africa, maybe also genetically.
    Behaviour in black protestant churches seems to be one of the examples.
    But what an article like this demonstrates again, in my opinion, that the USA is not a melting pot, it is stew.

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    "But what an article like this demonstrates again, in my opinion, that the USA is not a melting pot, it is stew."

    Well put. The former black mayor of NYC, David Dinkins, once described the US of A as a "gorgeous mosaic". I'm not sure how "gorgeous " it is as it appears more like a haphazard, formless mass. On the other hand, obviously "gorgeous", like "beauty", is in the eye of the beholder. But a mosaic it is--for better or for worse.
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  • I have no problem not “connecting” with ghetto black youth. In fact, it is my preferred MO. I stay as far away from them as I can.

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  • Wasn’t / isn’t Jimmie Iovine the money behind rap “music’s” hate.

    Iovine is a Jew. Shocking, I know.

    more:

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml


    portion:

    Jewish control over artists and entertainers has been the order of the day for much too long. Through the power of right guidance and unity we can break this cycle. But, if we remain disunited, we will pass down to the next generation another cultural force that is under the control of another people.

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    • Replies: @Dreadnought
    Iovine is an Italian Catholic. He graduated from Bishop Ford High in Brooklyn.
    , @jacques sheete
    Thank you, Wally! It may not be a conspiracy; but there certainly is a pattern.

    Truth is, most rappers are broke; owing more money to their record labels than they have in their bank accounts. As a matter of fact, most contracts for rappers are just as horrible as those for entertainers in other genres where artists sell millions and receive pennies while the record companies make out like fat rats. Who are the owners of these major record companies? Forgive me if I sound monotonous, but they just happen to be...

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml
     

    Not only do the artists get ripped off. Even geniuses such as the radio engineer, Edwin Howard Armstrong, the inventor of FM radio and super heterodyne circuitry were taken advantage of by unscrupulous moneybag greaseballs.
    , @Anon
    Pretty sure "Iovine" is an Italian name.

    And you're reading The Final Call now? The Nation of Islam newspaper? Did your subscription to Muhammad Speaks run out?
    , @mcohen
    wally is owned

    http://www.gq.com/story/jimmy-iovine-men-of-the-year-icon

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  • No student of History is astonished to see the bizarre becoming commonplace as the shortest-lived Empire begins its downward spiral.
    The Roman example entices comparison with its similitude but it took 5 centuries for them to objectify sex and power to the extent America does now after just…… what time is it now?

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  • Badly needs proofreading. By the time I got down to the 14th footnote, it was clear that there were missing words and phrases. Please clean it up and start over.

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  • I found the video on youtube. Note the stunned white interviewer who decides to move on to other topics.

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  • Like most, I ended up skimming this rambling article. But it did remind me of an old blog post:

    Jun 13, 2015 – Geraldo Hates Hip Hop

    I dislike Geraldo Rivera for his fake news reports and war cheerleading, but that is required for all prominent American “newsmen” these days. Yet he recently said that hip hop has done more damage to minorities than racism. This was ignored by the corporate media and Rivera was not denounced and forced to resign because of his minority status. This short clip of his comments deserves national debate. Note the shocked reaction of the interviewer who knows to move on and avoid that subject.

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    The great video has disappeared from this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/geraldo-rivera-hip-hop-racism_n_6701628.html

    But the content remains:

    Geraldo Rivera: ‘Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black And Brown People Than Racism In The Last 10 Years’

    By Ryan Buxton

    Geraldo Rivera doesn’t exactly seem like a pre-eminent authority on rap culture, but he has some very interesting thoughts about hip-hop, which he shared with HuffPost Live on Tuesday.

    During a conversation about his stint on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” Rivera got to talking politics with host Josh Zepps, who asked where Rivera falls on the liberal-to-conservative spectrum. Rivera described himself as “militant moderate,” and after pointing out several of his more liberal philosophies, he laid out his problem with rap culture.

    “Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years,” Rivera began. The Fox News contributor then challenged anyone to find “a youngster — a Puerto Rican from the South Bronx or a black kid from Harlem who has succeeded in life other than being the one-tenth of one-tenth of one percent that make it in the music business — that’s been a success in life walking around with his pants around his ass and with visible tattoos…”

    Rivera added that the most powerful men in hip-hop are responsible for pushing young minorities too far out of the dominant culture.

    “And I love Russell Simmons,” Rivera continued. “He’s a dear friend of mine. I admire his business acumen. At some point, those guys have to cop to the fact that by encouraging this distinctive culture that is removed from the mainstream, they have encouraged people to be so different from the mainstream that they can’t participate other than, you know, the racks in the garment center and those entry-level jobs, and I lament it. I really do. I think that it has been very destructive culturally.”

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    • Replies: @SMK
    "Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years." Exactly what does he mean by "racism"? Exactly how has "racism" damaged the lives and communities of black and brown people during the last 10 years? Exactly how have Jared Taylor, Paul Kersey, Nicholas Stix, AR, SBPDL, and other "racists" and their writings and websites blighted and destroyed the lives of "black and brown" people over the last decade? And I wonder if Geraldo thinks of and defines himself as a "white Hispanic" or a "brown Hispanic"?
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