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    I see that a man named Sessions, apparently Washington’s Attorney General, threatens to unleash the coercive powers of the federal government against the state of Colorado, his reason being that he does not like the state’s policy with regard to marijuana. This is most curious. Why he believes the policies of Colorado to be his...
  • @Corvinus

    Except 545 people do not “rule” over 330 million people. The people govern themselves by way of their representatives and Senators

    Complete nonsense. If you think Representatives and Congress represent the people, than there is no hope for such people.

    The US like many countries is Oligarhy of the rich pretending to give people power.
    Represenatitve “Democracy” is not democracy.

    Its representates big money, corporations, lobbies, and military.

    Your founding fathers would despise what US has become.

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  • From the BBC: I suspect that what black people really want is some extension of intellectual property rights law so that every time a white person says a black catchphrase, or dances a black step, or wears his pants baggy or whatever, he has to pay a nickel into a fund that will be shared...
  • @Gringo
    d)Questions for Americans: Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?

    African Americans Are Eight Times More Likely to Be Victims of Homicide Than Whites, Says CDC.

    During 1999–2014, a general decline in homicide trends for non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, and Hispanic populations occurred, followed by a significant increase in the rates for all three groups between 2014 and 2015. In 2015, homicide rates were 5.7 deaths per 100,000 for the total population, 20.9 for non-Hispanic blacks, 4.9 for Hispanics, and 2.6 for non-Hispanic whites.
     
    Blacks are 8 times more likely to be murder victims than than non-Hispanic whites. At the same time, blacks are less likely to be gun owners than"non-Hispanic whites."

    What does that tell you, that blacks own fewer guns than whites but are more likely to murder or be murdered than whites? And no, it isn't an issue of whites murdering blacks. That tells me that there isn't a "gun problem" in the US, but a cultural problem.

    The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world, but if you go to Wikipedia (no links to avoid the spam catcher) to look up murder rates, you find out that the US ranks about 93rd out of about 219 countries in the world for murder rate. That doesn't tell me that there is a "gun problem" in the US.

    I agree there is a cultural problem in the USA.
    My thoughts are: 1960-1970 or 1980-1990 as the big hits which target Americans.

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  • The simple truth about John Bolton’s appointment to national security adviser is that the Republicans need Sheldon Adelson’s money in order to be competitive in the coming midterms, and John Bolton is a tool of Sheldon Adelson. The appointment of course is a complete reversal of Donald Trump’s declaration during the campaign that the Iraq...
  • @mark green
    I qualify as a WASP. But I'm not sure that WASPs actually exist.

    'WASP' is not a defining identity for most white Americans with a protestant background. We're too diverse. Too disunified. And besides, most 'WASPs' are disconnected from their religious backgrounds.

    Moreover, WASPs cannot actually organize and operate politically as 'WASPs'. It would be declared racist, parochial, and maybe even criminal.

    Interestingly, the term 'WASP' was coined by a Jew.

    For what it's worth, WASPs do sometimes think religiously, sometimes racially, sometimes regionally, and sometimes politically, but we are a dispersed, disorganized mass with no strong collective identity; at least not today. Today's 'WASPs' are declining in the face of unified, rising and resentful opposition.

    As for the Jews, I think that you are mistaking WASP deference and tolerance for Jews with imaginary WASP enthusiasm for Jews and Jewish domination.

    With the exception of some highly religious WASPs (And they are a minority) the Jews remain a highly ethnocentric (and alien) tribe in the eyes of most Americans, including WASPs--most of whom no longer hold any strong religious convictions.

    When I was a child, there were virtually no Jews in my WASPy neighborhood or my parent's country club. Then, over 50 years ago, US supreme court rulings abolished 'restrictive covenants'. Court-ordered desegregation that followed allowed Jews to rise rapidly in American life; and without giving up their strong Jewish identities. WASPs on the other hand gave away the store.

    Even the mild quotas on Jews that were in place at many of America's top universities were abolished via court order just a half-century ago. This gave ambitious Jews an extraordinary opportunity in the academy. Ron Unz has explored what came next brilliantly.

    Ironically, as 'quotas' on Jews fell at Harvard and Yale, new 'affirmative action' policies were erected in their place. The winners?

    Jews.

    The losers?

    WASPs.

    Nevertheless, even after these court rulings, fraternities at my college steered Jews towards all-Jewish fraternities. And those kosher frats remain.

    After college, the number of all-Jewish lobbies, federations, committees and organizations grew remarkably. Today, Jews slyly self-segregated across all facets of American life. WASPs (whites) do as well; but not in a way that comes even close to the buzz of Jewish activism and Jewish ethnic advocacy. In American life, WASPs been snookered and quietly demoted.

    Interestingly, the barriers between Catholics and WASPs in America are pretty much gone entirely. These new realities render the WASP acronym something of an anachronism.

    But WASPs (whites) remain--like most other Americans--wary of Jewish power and the sharp taboos that Jews manage so skillfully. Weiss generally misses these secondary elements. But these additional 'facts in the air' make Jewish power even more formidable than most people--including Weiss--dare to comprehend.

    Weiss, who does great work in general, nevertheless seldom explores Jewish domination of Hollywood and how it is used to advance Jewish supremacism and cultural Marxism as it wreaks havoc on white identity, white memory, and white influence. There's a war going on, Mr. Weiss. And it's not just happening in the Middle East.

    Indeed, Jewish power is not as simple as Sheldon Adelson dumping $25 million dollars into one election cycle. Not at all. Jews play not only a decisive role in Hollywood, but also in America's Deep State. This further strengthens Israel's artificial centrality in American life.

    Indeed, the case can be made that there is virtually no genuine, organic connection between WASPs and Jews (beyond the modern advent of fundamentalist Christian Zionism). After all, Christianity was a total break from Judaism. And Jews remain an endogamous people.

    The WASP-Jewish 'alliance' (if it does exist at all) mirrors the 'special relationship' between Washington and Israel. It's one-way traffic on a Jewish toll road.

    Dazzling Jewish cohesion, planning, execution, and influence has knocked the old WASP establishment off its pedestal. What remains are white figureheads. But they know who's in charge. This phenomena explains why support of Israel in Washington is both 'bipartisan' and unconditional. Jews own the town.

    The WASP-Jewish partnership is something of a myth. Deals have been cut, that's all. Jewish ethnocentrism has always been, and will always be, a wall of separation between the Chosen People and the rest of humanity.

    I guess it depends what you mean by WASP.

    if you mean generally the mainline churches, and rich elites.

    They are getting weaker. wasp establishment has turned from anglosaxon to proanglosaxon. so their waspish is more diverse. some dropped the religion.

    Not sure if these qualify:

    Hagel made a normal comment being pro American and not zionist and was kicked out. (okay he apparently switched from catholic to episcopilian).

    Carter tried to bring peace with Israel and Egypt (apparently, not sure if true). He said Israel is apartheid and gave an estimate of nukes.

    If we include all Protestant elites though including the relationship is there. say Bush family, Clinton family, the Evangelicals, etc.

    there are so many factions in Protestants its tough to be accurate. and multiple ways to id a wasp.

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  • @jilles dykstra
    Who is this Adelson ?
    Another Soros ?

    Basically, what Soros is to SJWism, Adelson is to Zionism. They’re both parasites who manipulate our political system. Besides their respective favorites causes, the only other big difference is their reach: Adelson seems to limit his interference to US politics, whereas Soros has operations worldwide.

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    • Replies: @Joe Franklin

    Basically, what Soros is to SJWism, Adelson is to Zionism.

     

    Zionist are social justice warriors too.

    Social justice is all about victim class supremacy, or supremacy of rights for special groups, and Israel is loaded with victim cult Jews who demand and receive superior rights from both the Israeli and US governments.

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/lawsuit-challenges-israels-discriminatory-citizenship-definition/8767

    "Israel refused to recognize an Israeli nationality at the country’s establishment in 1948, making an unusual distinction between “citizenship” and “nationality.” Although all Israelis qualify as “citizens of Israel,” the state is defined as belonging to the “Jewish nation,” meaning not only the 5.6 million Israeli Jews but also more than seven million Jews in the diaspora.

    Critics say the special status of Jewish nationality has been a way to undermine the citizenship rights of non-Jews in Israel, especially the fifth of the population who are Arab. Some 30 laws in Israel specifically privilege Jews, including in the areas of immigration rights, naturalization, access to land and employment."
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  • Certainly seems so to me. AltRight.com's Vincent Law was pretty optimistic at the start of 2017: "Overall assessment of the situation: Feels great, man." Only problem is - it appears that he either left them or was fired, which means that AltRight.com is no longer even worth following (Greg Hood is good but posts too...
  • @Miro23

    From a European perspective it seems pretty clear now that the US is irredeemable on every level and that neither its immigration policy nor its foreign policy aiming at permanent global hegemony will be changed without some drastic form of collapse.
     
    That's what it looks like. And it's a strange kind of "Global Hegemony" that runs permanent deficits, has outsourced its industrial base, has a divided society and levels of inequality never seen before in the Western world.

    Realistically, the US does look more like a failed state heading into some kind of social and economic collapse.

    Lets assume the US falls (I dont know just yet):

    Its the people who will suffer though. Not the elites. They will run to other countries.
    Some Americans upper-middle and rich will run to other countries.

    As long as they have those financiers and military, they are still alive as empire.

    Yearly population are getting more obese (now 4/10).
    Less Middle Class. Less family unit. More big government. Thats not the America of old.

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    • Replies: @Miro23
    Being a successful country in 2018 is not easy.

    The population needs to be healthy, well educated, skilled and employed, and there need to be low levels of corruption , a fair legal system and a frugal government dedicated to national development.

    The US happens to be declining an all these measures, and plenty of other countries are also failing. Every country is different, but a big reason has to be digitalization and the internet, building the framework for the mass exodus of manufacturing to low wage destinations.

    It should have been stopped with a serious national political effort (starting in the 1980's) but even where there has been the political will (e.g. in Germany), it's only been partially successful.

    In contrast to the Americans, the Germans know that they need modern manufacturing and all the science, development and technology that goes along with it, but globalization makes national production uneconomic - so they've pulled the useful trick of substituting the Euro for the D.Mark , giving them a new undervalued currency (very useful for exports) - linked to the economies of places like Portugal and Greece - who themselves now struggle with the overvaluation of their Euro currency.

    If Europe still had national currencies, Germany would not be able to manufacture and export the way it does with a D.Mark at its true market value - and Portugal and Greece would be much more competitive for manufacturing and tourism with a low valued Escudo and Drachma.

    The fundamental argument is to separate the administration of the state from business. They're totally separate concepts. The state represents the best interests of the people, and business represents the best interests of corporations and shareholders.

    In the US, business and finance have a lock on political power through Congress (lobbies) and the FED (despite the name - an association of private banks), with the administration stuffed with globalist businessmen and bankers. The only real answer is for states to be mostly autonomous and raise and spend their own taxes with close political involvement of the public (i.e. an American Confederation).

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  • @polskijoe
    On the economic side? You might be right. But I still think social issues were important.

    But after the New Deal didnt "socialist" like ideas poor in, mixing with capitalism?
    Essentially the elites were ultra capitalists while they gave capitalist-socialist mixture for the masses?

    Essentially the elites were ultra capitalists while they gave capitalist-socialist mixture for the masses?

    The elites were ultra capitalists who hoped to maintain absolute social control by keeping the lower orders happy with handouts, mind-rotting trash entertainment, sex and drugs (it almost seems that they used Brave New World as an instruction manual).

    It might seem like a kind of semi-socialism but it isn’t really, although the new world order they created does manage to combine many of the worst features of both capitalism and socialism.

    This the world the New Left made possible by their betrayal of all actual left-wing principles.

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  • From the BBC: I suspect that what black people really want is some extension of intellectual property rights law so that every time a white person says a black catchphrase, or dances a black step, or wears his pants baggy or whatever, he has to pay a nickel into a fund that will be shared...
  • @polskijoe
    Questions for Americans:

    a)Do whites usually buy guns legally? How about blacks?
    b)If they grabbed all the guns it would be likely taking it from legally?
    c)How would they find the guns hidden by gangs and others?
    d)Is there a solution to the "gun problem" in USA? A moderate position?

    polskijoe, I largely agree with istevefan. A few additional details:

    a) whites: usually; blacks: not so much

    b) This question didn’t translate well to English, but I think you are asking if it is legal to confiscate guns. The answer is basically no unless you are convicted of a felony or have a vindictive ex-wife. Of course, since blacks are disproportionately felons this should mean a lot of blacks getting disarmed, but the Progressive gun grabbers want to disarm whites not blacks, so this is problem for the Progs. (They like armed blacks. They plan to use them against armed whites.) So the Progs are trying to get the Second Amendment repealed or at least invalidated, so all guns will become illegal, then, like with most laws, they will only enforce it against whites.

    c) Unfortunately, if you buy a gun legally from a licensed dealer, the dealer has to register the purchase with the Federal government, so there is a Federal list of legal gun owners, or at least those who have bought guns legally. The government would go house-to-house with this list demanding you give them your gun(s) or tell them to whom you gave/sold it. This is the Left’s wet dream come true. As mentioned already, they don’t care about (illegal) black and brown gang guns, so those would remain, they don’t even need to hide them.

    d) The current laws are the “moderate position”: felons can’t buy guns, upstanding citizens can. Of course, the Left views any moderate position as just a stepping stone to their extreme position, so one minute after you reach any moderate compromise with them, they immediately begin painting it as intolerable, racist, Nazi, etc. so that they can make the next “compromise” on the way to their communist tyranny-utopia.

    I assume you are Polish, so I assume you already know: never trust the Left. Never, never, never, never.

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    • Replies: @JMcG
    Very well stated!
    , @Mishra
    Agreed entirely, with one tiny edit:

    Progressive gun grabbers want to disarm whites not blacks, so this is problem for the Progs. (They like armed blacks. They plan to use them against armed whites.)
     
    This 'plan' has been in force for over fifty years now.
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  • @istevefan

    a)Do whites usually buy guns legally? How about blacks?
     
    There is always going to be a criminal element that has to buy guns illegally, but for the most part whites are out in the open about owning firearms. That's why whites join groups like the NRA and flood into gun shows that are held each week across the nation.

    I can't say for sure about blacks.


    b)If they grabbed all the guns it would be likely taking it from legally?
     
    Assuming they repealed the 2nd Amendment, or got another justice on the Supreme Court to rule that the 2nd Amendment is not an individual right to own a gun, then yes they would probably end up disarming people who had legally purchased their guns. However, with the millions of legal gun owners in America, it wouldn't take many to start an insurrection.

    Consider that the combined might of the US armed forces, both active and reserve, is only around 2 million in total. You could conceivably have 10 million legal gun owners, many of whom have had military training, who would refuse. If that happened I don't see how the government could put them down.

    c)How would they find the guns hidden by gangs and others?
     

    They'd probably hunt for guns in the ghettos like they currently hunt for drugs. But since many of those guns are illegally owned, they wouldn't know for sure where they were.

    d)Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?
     
    The so-called gun problem in the USA is a demographic problem. A disproportionate amount of gun crime is committed by the black community despite the media attention given to the white mass shooters. In Europe you are seeing what happens when you get some Africans in your midst. Just imagine what it is going to be like when they comprise 13 percent of your population. That is the black percentage in America and they account for half the murders.

    Given the government's position on making America even less white, I don't see whites readily giving up their weapons. It would be suicidal to disarm now given that our proportion of the population is going to shrink. Additionally this multicultural experiment as David Brooks calls it is probably going to not end in a happy way. It would be wise to be able to protect yourself when that day comes.

    thanks for answer.

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  • The simple truth about John Bolton’s appointment to national security adviser is that the Republicans need Sheldon Adelson’s money in order to be competitive in the coming midterms, and John Bolton is a tool of Sheldon Adelson. The appointment of course is a complete reversal of Donald Trump’s declaration during the campaign that the Iraq...
  • So Adelson is basically a Trotskyist turned Liberal hawk. Sadly now considered “conservative”.
    Thats how badly the conservative movement has fallen.

    Would the Koch brothers be a lesser evil?
    Is there any actual conservative or better yet traditional billionares?

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    " ... a Trotskyist turned Liberal hawk."

    That is a very clear definition of a neoconservative. Is anyone surprised that the Orange One, despite his election year rhetoric, is a Zionist tool?
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  • Certainly seems so to me. AltRight.com's Vincent Law was pretty optimistic at the start of 2017: "Overall assessment of the situation: Feels great, man." Only problem is - it appears that he either left them or was fired, which means that AltRight.com is no longer even worth following (Greg Hood is good but posts too...
  • @dfordoom

    The feminist movement of the 1960s which is when the more evil feminism started.
    was part of the New Left.

    Basically a movement to passify and fool people to vote for something similar yet different to Communism.
     
    The New Left existed in order to persuade people to embrace capitalism, whilst thinking they were supporting socialism.

    On the economic side? You might be right. But I still think social issues were important.

    But after the New Deal didnt “socialist” like ideas poor in, mixing with capitalism?
    Essentially the elites were ultra capitalists while they gave capitalist-socialist mixture for the masses?

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    Essentially the elites were ultra capitalists while they gave capitalist-socialist mixture for the masses?
     
    The elites were ultra capitalists who hoped to maintain absolute social control by keeping the lower orders happy with handouts, mind-rotting trash entertainment, sex and drugs (it almost seems that they used Brave New World as an instruction manual).

    It might seem like a kind of semi-socialism but it isn't really, although the new world order they created does manage to combine many of the worst features of both capitalism and socialism.

    This the world the New Left made possible by their betrayal of all actual left-wing principles.
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  • From the BBC: I suspect that what black people really want is some extension of intellectual property rights law so that every time a white person says a black catchphrase, or dances a black step, or wears his pants baggy or whatever, he has to pay a nickel into a fund that will be shared...
  • Questions for Americans:

    a)Do whites usually buy guns legally? How about blacks?
    b)If they grabbed all the guns it would be likely taking it from legally?
    c)How would they find the guns hidden by gangs and others?
    d)Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?

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    a)Do whites usually buy guns legally? How about blacks?
     
    There is always going to be a criminal element that has to buy guns illegally, but for the most part whites are out in the open about owning firearms. That's why whites join groups like the NRA and flood into gun shows that are held each week across the nation.

    I can't say for sure about blacks.


    b)If they grabbed all the guns it would be likely taking it from legally?
     
    Assuming they repealed the 2nd Amendment, or got another justice on the Supreme Court to rule that the 2nd Amendment is not an individual right to own a gun, then yes they would probably end up disarming people who had legally purchased their guns. However, with the millions of legal gun owners in America, it wouldn't take many to start an insurrection.

    Consider that the combined might of the US armed forces, both active and reserve, is only around 2 million in total. You could conceivably have 10 million legal gun owners, many of whom have had military training, who would refuse. If that happened I don't see how the government could put them down.

    c)How would they find the guns hidden by gangs and others?
     

    They'd probably hunt for guns in the ghettos like they currently hunt for drugs. But since many of those guns are illegally owned, they wouldn't know for sure where they were.

    d)Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?
     
    The so-called gun problem in the USA is a demographic problem. A disproportionate amount of gun crime is committed by the black community despite the media attention given to the white mass shooters. In Europe you are seeing what happens when you get some Africans in your midst. Just imagine what it is going to be like when they comprise 13 percent of your population. That is the black percentage in America and they account for half the murders.

    Given the government's position on making America even less white, I don't see whites readily giving up their weapons. It would be suicidal to disarm now given that our proportion of the population is going to shrink. Additionally this multicultural experiment as David Brooks calls it is probably going to not end in a happy way. It would be wise to be able to protect yourself when that day comes.

    , @Almost Missouri
    polskijoe, I largely agree with istevefan. A few additional details:

    a) whites: usually; blacks: not so much

    b) This question didn't translate well to English, but I think you are asking if it is legal to confiscate guns. The answer is basically no unless you are convicted of a felony or have a vindictive ex-wife. Of course, since blacks are disproportionately felons this should mean a lot of blacks getting disarmed, but the Progressive gun grabbers want to disarm whites not blacks, so this is problem for the Progs. (They like armed blacks. They plan to use them against armed whites.) So the Progs are trying to get the Second Amendment repealed or at least invalidated, so all guns will become illegal, then, like with most laws, they will only enforce it against whites.

    c) Unfortunately, if you buy a gun legally from a licensed dealer, the dealer has to register the purchase with the Federal government, so there is a Federal list of legal gun owners, or at least those who have bought guns legally. The government would go house-to-house with this list demanding you give them your gun(s) or tell them to whom you gave/sold it. This is the Left's wet dream come true. As mentioned already, they don't care about (illegal) black and brown gang guns, so those would remain, they don't even need to hide them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaF-j8x5Vc

    d) The current laws are the "moderate position": felons can't buy guns, upstanding citizens can. Of course, the Left views any moderate position as just a stepping stone to their extreme position, so one minute after you reach any moderate compromise with them, they immediately begin painting it as intolerable, racist, Nazi, etc. so that they can make the next "compromise" on the way to their communist tyranny-utopia.

    I assume you are Polish, so I assume you already know: never trust the Left. Never, never, never, never.

    , @Lars Porsena
    a) Depends. Most whites buy guns legally, although obviously criminal whites tend to do so criminally. Some blacks also buy guns legally, it's perfectly legal so long as they don't have felony records. I do not know the real numbers so you'd have to look them up, but as a personal bias, I would have to say the number of legal white guns certainly drastically dwarfs the number of illegal ones. With blacks, I don't know but I would at least consider that the ratio may be substantially tilted in the other direction, whether the numbers of illegal guns owned by gang bangers is smaller or larger than the number of black people legally armed I couldn't tell you.

    b) Grabbing the legal guns obviously. The illegal guns are already "grabbed" because they are illegal, but obviously the government cannot find them to grab. The political issue is legal guns, not illegal ones. Since illegal guns are already 'grabbable' any new laws about grabbing guns would have to be targeting previously legal ones, or else just be redundant fluff where politicians try to take credit for the fact you haven't been blown up by a grenade launcher.

    c) They wouldn't, and they don't. They only find the ones on people they are already arresting for something else, which then get grabbed, but obviously they have no divining rod to lead them to the rest.

    d) No. Not any more than there is a solution to the 'murder problem' or the 'thieving problem'.

    One thing you have to remember is the news media, in all western countries, has it's own agenda, and it hates guns. What foreigners hear about the problems with guns and violence in the US is what the media wants them to hear in order to shape their opinions. That is the power of the media, if the media starts covering hurricanes more frequently, people typically think hurricanes are happening more frequently, not that the media is just covering them more. So take reports of life in America (or any other country) with a grain of salt if it's coming through any biased media, and all media have their own biases.

    Another thing you have to remember is that firearms are what, 12th century technology? At it's most basic a gun is just a pipe with a handle and a plug on the back with a tiny hole in it. The handle, while ergonomic, is not strictly necessary. It's not like there aren't already black-market manufacturers of knock-off guns. There are.

    Plus there are already so many firearms in the US, and so many people (like myself) who would sooner bury them in tupperware in the back yard than give them to the government, and so many of them unregistered in any way.

    You can make gun laws and enforce them on criminals. But the criminals are already in violation of the law. If you want to make sure that bank robber stays in jail, instead of tacking on gun crimes they could just make the sentence for bank robbery longer. The only real purpose of gun laws is to enforce them on non-criminals who only have the gun for self-defense and haven't even used it and won't use it. Since these people haven't already done something else illegal with the gun, they are really the only people the government needs new gun laws to target. Don't kid yourself, they're the target.
    , @gunner29
    d)Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?

    20 years ago a book came out; More Guns, Less Crime. John Lott was the author, he examined the gun laws and crime in all 3300 or so counties in the US.

    Found that the more restrictions on guns, the more crime in that county. So Cook county Illinois, where Chicago is, basically prohibited guns and it was open season on the law abiding part of the population.

    Obvious reason was a criminal type doesn't want to be surprised by a legal gun owner during a mugging, assault, or breaking into your home or business. If only 10% are armed, it's not going to be many crimes before they meet up with the business end of a gun. And the likely end of their criminal career; either dead or in prison for a couple of decades.

    So the criminals leave that county and go practice their shit in the ones that disarm their victims.

    Even the room temp IQ criminals are bright enough to only 'work' where the chances of getting shot are low. There was an upscale town in Georgia at the time that passed an ordinance that every home had to own a gun. I doubt it was enforced, but the word got around to the criminals and they pretty much quit going there.

    Other thing would be eliminate this 'Gun free zone' bull. It's an invitation for a mass killer. The huge advantage concealed gun carry has is the criminals don't know whom to shoot first. Uniformed guard; take them out first.

    There are a couple of hundred peeps left after the uniformed guy is down, so who is the biggest threat that gets it next? Not an easy answer to the perp, and if he pays attention to one or two, there could be another ten that are going for their guns to take out the criminal. If you're 20 feet away, with your back to me, I can put a couple in the back of your head with no problem. I practice at 75 feet and try to put them in a 4 inch group. So it's not impossible, cops tho, are the worst shots around....

    This is why armed teachers makes so much sense. The teachers recognize each other, know which are armed so they aren't shooting each other. They are also already in the building, so no having to get the courage up to enter and confront somebody. And being already there, there is no response delay of 10 minutes or more until the cops can get there, they know where the shots are coming from, how many, know the layout of the building, can work together; that's a really big confidence giver to have other armed peeps with you.

    The gun grabbers are certain just collect all the privately owned guns; end of problem. But they'll never get all the guns, the borders are porous so there will be smuggling, and the knowledge of how to make guns exists.

    But the crime aspect of gun ownership is a byproduct of the 2nd amendment; being able to shoot a 'jack booted thug' from the gobt was the original reason.....
    , @Gringo
    d)Questions for Americans: Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?

    African Americans Are Eight Times More Likely to Be Victims of Homicide Than Whites, Says CDC.

    During 1999–2014, a general decline in homicide trends for non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, and Hispanic populations occurred, followed by a significant increase in the rates for all three groups between 2014 and 2015. In 2015, homicide rates were 5.7 deaths per 100,000 for the total population, 20.9 for non-Hispanic blacks, 4.9 for Hispanics, and 2.6 for non-Hispanic whites.
     
    Blacks are 8 times more likely to be murder victims than than non-Hispanic whites. At the same time, blacks are less likely to be gun owners than"non-Hispanic whites."

    What does that tell you, that blacks own fewer guns than whites but are more likely to murder or be murdered than whites? And no, it isn't an issue of whites murdering blacks. That tells me that there isn't a "gun problem" in the US, but a cultural problem.

    The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world, but if you go to Wikipedia (no links to avoid the spam catcher) to look up murder rates, you find out that the US ranks about 93rd out of about 219 countries in the world for murder rate. That doesn't tell me that there is a "gun problem" in the US.
    , @Gringo
    d)Is there a solution to the “gun problem” in USA? A moderate position?

    If we look at Europe, we find out that there is a correlation of -0.24 between gun ownership rates and murder rates. The data tells us this: the more guns in Europe, the less murder in Europe or vice versa.
    Here are the top ten countries in Europe by gun ownership rates(boldface), along with murder rates.

    Country Murder Rate Guns per 100 Residents
    Serbia 1.13 58.21
    Norway 0.56 31.3
    France 1.58 31.2
    Austria 0.51 30.4
    Germany 0.85 30.3
    Iceland 0.91 30.3
    Finland 1.6 27.3
    Switzerland 0.69 24.45
    Macedonia 1.59 24.1
    Montenegro 2.72 23.1

    Here are the top 10 countries in Europe by murder rate (boldface), along with gun ownership rate.

    Country Murder Rate Guns per 100 Residents
    Russia 11.31 8.9
    Lithuania 5.98 0.7
    Ukraine 4.36 6.6
    Latvia 4.11 19
    Belarus 3.58 7.3
    Estonia 3.2 9.2
    Moldova 3.19 7.1
    Montenegro 2.72 23.1
    Albania 2.28 8.6
    Belgium 1.95 17.2

    Montenegro is the only country in the top ten in both gun ownership rate and murder rate. Russia is first in murder rate, but 25th in gun ownership rate. Serbia is first in gun ownership rate but 20th in murder rate.Norway is 2nd in gun ownership rate but 38th- next to last- in murder rate.

    The white American murder rate of 2.6/100,000, cited in an earlier post, is lower than 8 European countries.

    Both European and American data on gun ownership rates and murder rates show us that more guns do not equate with more murder. (Pew Report surveys, linked to in a comment that is still blocked, show black households owning guns at a lower rate than white households 32% versus 49% in a 2017 survey, and 19% versus 41 % in a 2014 survey.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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  • Certainly seems so to me. AltRight.com's Vincent Law was pretty optimistic at the start of 2017: "Overall assessment of the situation: Feels great, man." Only problem is - it appears that he either left them or was fired, which means that AltRight.com is no longer even worth following (Greg Hood is good but posts too...
  • @Rosie

    To an outsider, it would appear that men and women”get along” much better in Russia (and perhaps other former Soviet republics) than in the West. Is this true?
     
    Here's my take. Back in the early 20th Century, women had some legitimate grievances about their treatment by men. In my opinion, these grievances were resolved by mid-century at the latest. Workplace discrimination continued, but I don't think it ever exceeded what would be considered reasonable given that men shoulder the primary financial responsibility for the family's support.

    If you want to be generous to the feminist movement, you could say that disparate treatment was still an injustice even if women didn't need to earn as much as men. That's about as far as I think reasonable people could go in giving feminists the benefit of the doubt. Sex discrimination in employment was outlawed in 1964.

    Under ordinary circumstances, that would have been the end of the feminist movement. Its major goals accomplished, it would have petered out like UKIP after the Brexit referendum. However, unlike Brexit, feminist agitation served the interests of elites, who continued funding feminist organizations that otherwise could not have survived for lack of a natural constituency. Radical feminists could have carried on bloviating, but they'd have gotten no funding, no attention, and no traction without elite patronage.

    I do not agree with dfordoom that there is something in the nature of feminism that compels it to continue fighting when the major objectives have long since been achieved. Rather, I think certain elites deliberately fan the flames of the War of the Sexes for their own purposes. If Russia isn't bothered by these radical malcontents, I would guess that's because hostile elites are not permitted to enable them with funding and publicity they could never get on the merits of their agenda.

    The feminist movement of the 1960s which is when the more evil feminism started.
    was part of the New Left.

    Basically a movement to passify and fool people to vote for something similar yet different to Communism.

    The West was more worried about Stalinism than Bolshevism.
    So they used Bolshevik social views. In recent times those views have gone on steriods.
    Then used a mixture of capitalist and socialist views.

    The focus was more on social issues (drugs, feminism, perverts, abortions) rather than money.
    Some call it Cultural Marxism.

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    The feminist movement of the 1960s which is when the more evil feminism started.
    was part of the New Left.

    Basically a movement to passify and fool people to vote for something similar yet different to Communism.
     
    The New Left existed in order to persuade people to embrace capitalism, whilst thinking they were supporting socialism.
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  • One of the most discouraging aspects of the musical chairs being played among the members of the White House inner circle is that every change reflects an inexorable move to the right in foreign policy, which means that the interventionists are back without anyone at the White House level remaining to say “no.” President Donald...
  • @RadicalCenter
    Yes, let’s stop subsidizing and entangling ourselves militarily with the Future Islamic Republics of Britain, Germany, and France, as well as the Koreas (which are inevitably part of China’s Dominant sphere if not eventually annexed by China).

    The USA ought to ally itself with the countries that have some realistic chance of preserving a semblance of our civilization and physically protecting a living space for our European peoples and working amicably with more compatible, more intelligent peoples:

    Russia

    Hopefully Poland, Hungary, Belarus, Ukraine

    any other Eastern European/Slavic or Balkan countries that reject the US/EU elite-supported Muslim/African invasion of the (semi)civilized world ... This necessarily will mean countries that aren’t in the EU, or who have the sense to leave the EU before the mandatory Islamic and Retard wave drowns them too.

    Japan

    It’s a slim roster, to be sure.

    Visegrad (certainly Poland, Hungary, and probably Czech the last with Jewish connections)
    is part of US network Conservative network. Have a look at the recent expulsions list of diplmats in Europe. And the countries who didnt.

    Most of the upper establishment is intermixed at some level.

    The Visegrad is not some saviour. Its just decent on immigration issues. Poland with some Catholic conservatives (but also pressure from neocons), and Hungary similar.

    Eastern/Central Europe is divided.

    So from all the mostly homogenous countries many of them are connected to US influence.
    Sure they arent Sjws, or Libs (though some factions are). They are resisting open borders.
    While siding with military complex, even WASP interests over some other Catholic nations.

    Again Poland establishment has no plans to leave EU. They love the money atm. So do the majority of Poles. With Neocon/American help they are getting “richer”. Only if the Muslim/Leftist pressure grows
    than maybe they would leave in the future.

    Russia itself has many problems with crime, multicultarism, etc. So Europe is in tough case.
    The whole West is.

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  • @Rurik

    You say the Zionists got the USA into WW2, but how so?
     
    by controlling the banks and the money supply

    Rothschild's control of England is legendary. The real (and never mentioned reason for the American revolution was the British demand that the American colonies use fiat debt paper as their currency, which would mean slavery to the Bank of England. That was also the reason for the war of 1812, because Rothschild was determined to enslave all governments and people. Andrew Jackson had their number, and so did many patriots.

    I mean why the f' would any sane nation want to have their currency provided by the world's greediest men - at interest, that by design can never be paid off, when they can simply print their own?!

    It means slavery. Debt slavery to evil men.

    That's why it's in the Constitution that the US print and coin its own currency. But Wilson betrayed us all, and not just Americans, but the world, because after the Jews got their WWII, the Federal Reserve Note was designated as the world's reserve currency, thereby enslaving the entire planet to the tender mercies of the world's most evil men; the International Zionist Banksters.

    so this had been going on for a while now, and it was Wilson who arranged for Trotsky to go to Moscow with suitcases full of cash, in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution, that would enslave Russia with that other invention of the International Jew; communism.

    This is why Hitler railed against both capitalism and communism as methods of evil men to enslave their betters.

    anyways, it's all tied together. We didn't get where we are overnight

    (must go- to be continued)

    Interesting reply if true (I dont know enough about US history).

    Whats interesting is Jackson was a Freemason
    and he opposed the bankers. At least it appears more aggresively then…

    Later Freemasons like Truman, Ford, Taft, Roosevelt all fell to ZioJew pressure or apologized.

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    Interesting reply if true (I dont know enough about US history).
     
    they don't teach the real history in the American history books, ever since the Fiend was granted ownership of these formerly free states in 1913.

    If the reason for the war was a scheme of the English banksters to enslave the colonies, then once they had America under their zio-boot, why the hell would they allow the truth about it to be told to school children?

    In 1764, the Bank of England used its influence on Parliament to get a Currency Act passed that made it illegal for any of the colonies to print their own money. The colonists were forced to pay all future taxes to Britain in silver or gold. Anyone lacking in those precious metals had to borrow them at interest from the banks.

    Only a year later, Franklin said, the streets of the colonies were filled with unemployed beggars, just as they were in England. The money supply had suddenly been reduced by half, leaving insufficient funds to pay for the goods and services these workers could have provided. He maintained that it was “the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament which has caused in the colonies hatred of the English and . . . the Revolutionary War.” This, he said, was the real reason for the Revolution: “the colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction.”

     


    Alexander Hamilton, the nation’s first treasury secretary, said that paper moneyhad composed three-fourths of the total money supply before the American Revolution. When the colonists could not issue their own currency, the money supply had suddenly shrunk, leaving widespread unemployment, hunger and poverty in its wake. Unlike the Great Depression of the 1930s, people in the 1770s were keenly aware of who was responsible for their distress.
     

    The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the Revolution.

    B. Franklin
     
    more here

    http://washingtonsblog.com/2009/06/the-other-reason-for-the-american-revolution.html
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  • Certainly seems so to me. AltRight.com's Vincent Law was pretty optimistic at the start of 2017: "Overall assessment of the situation: Feels great, man." Only problem is - it appears that he either left them or was fired, which means that AltRight.com is no longer even worth following (Greg Hood is good but posts too...
  • @John Gruskos
    I certainly do hope that Nazi LARPing is dead, along with nihilist troll culture, anti-Christianism, anti-Americanism, and foolish hopes that Jared Kushner's father-in-law is somehow "on our side".

    The burial of the Frog Emperor's putrid corpse is long overdue.

    Donald Trump emerged from a heavily Jewish milieu. There was never any chance that he would make a good faith effort to actually implement the America First platform (immigration restriction and a non-interventionist foreign policy).

    His election's real value was as a plebiscite on the America First platform. Would the American people support this platform, despite it being associated with such an unappealing personality?

    The answer was a resounding yes. Never again can anyone claim that this political stance is fringe.

    All of Pat Buchanan's 1992 warnings have been vindicated by the course of events, and by 2016 the American people were ready to embrace his platform. The task now is to elect a better congress in 2018, and then elect a better president in 2020, so that this platform can be implemented.

    I suspect many leading figures of the Alt-Right were ADL fundraisers, provocateurs and saboteurs intent on making nationalism look bad. Others were talented and sincere men, but with some flawed ideas which unfortunately blinded them to the true nature of the Judas goats in their midst.

    The establishment's strategy is to isolate and destroy the sincere and talented men - the ugly politics of personal destruction. The task of the right should be to provide moral support to these individuals while they heal, so that they can eventually bounce back, wiser and stronger than ever.

    Agree with much of your first paragraph.

    Most antiAmericanism stems from dislike/hate of the US governments/establishment (in and out of USA)
    and sometimes from the fact that people dont do nothing about it. (usually outside the USA).

    You know Buchanan is fairly respectable person. I agree with most his points. Though some may be outdated.

    Paleoconservativism may have worked in the 1990s or before.
    Would it still work today? Im not so sure.

    The establishment on the Republican side prefers:
    Neocons, MIC types and Rockefeller Republicans.

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  • @Rosie

    Women will follow and enforce the status quo and act however the dominant figure around wants them to. The issue is not women themselves, the issue is the foreign elite telling white women how to act, and to act against the interests of white men.
     
    That's what the foreign elite thought, until November 2016.

    Despite the most extraordinary media assault on a candidate in history, working class White women bitch-slapped the anti-White establishment with a landslide 61% vote for the evil nazi, putting White male college graduates to shame as they only went 53% for Trump.

    The only White group that voted for Hillary was college grad women, who only voted 51% for Hillary. Imagine after a lifetime of propaganda, four years in college learning all about how evil White men are, and getting a chance to vote for the First Woman POTUS, and still barely a majority voted for her. Ouch!

    There are apparently several types of feminism.
    The more new the more destructive.

    The feminism of 1900 has been accepted by vast majority of the West.

    Men and women in general are different. They also need to work together and share some similarities.
    Both needed for society for function.

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    There are apparently several types of feminism.
    The more new the more destructive.
     
    This is quite right, and until we can agree on a working definition of "feminism" it's going to be very difficult to sort this out. Some don't want a clear definition because that would undermine the utility of this word as an all-purpose rhetorical weapon.
    , @dfordoom

    There are apparently several types of feminism.
    The more new the more destructive.
     
    It's in the very nature of feminism to become more and more destructive. The basis of feminism is the belief that men and women are essentially identical. Reality disagrees, and therefore feminism always fails. Every time it fails feminists become more angry and more extreme.
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  • It was a dumb movement anyway and putting one’s hopes into a grotesque figure like Trump was just desperate wishful thinking. Good riddance.
    From a European perspective it seems pretty clear now that the US is irredeemable on every level and that neither its immigration policy nor its foreign policy aiming at permanent global hegemony will be changed without some drastic form of collapse. Maybe Trump will still deliver here by starting some catastrophic war (even if one should hardly wish for such a development).

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    • Replies: @Dmitry

    It was a dumb movement anyway and putting one’s hopes into a grotesque figure like Trump was just desperate wishful thinking. Good riddance.
     
    They pretended they supported Trump more as a tactic in order to get into the media - likewise, the CNN and New York Times, used them as part of their campaign against Trump.

    Any observer with a high enough level of English, who watches the primary sources, could know Trump has no relationship to this 'alt-right' movement, either in his campaign promises, his life experience, or way of thinking. (By the way, this is far from a bad thing - as the 'alt-right' is not something that could benefit international relations, or internal domestic order, anymore than Black Lives Matter, Neo-Conservativism, or Social Justice Warriors).

    -

    On another topic, is it rather comical the fake mythology printed in places like CNN and New York Times, that Russia supported Trump, or 'hacked the election'.

    There was the fact Trump had some sympathetic media coverage and people in Russia - for example, on so many youtube comments - were admiring him and hoping relations would improve.

    But this hopeful feeling, is generally the case with fresh American presidents. Obama actually had some quite positive media coverage in 2008, before his negative actions in a lot of areas became very clear.
    , @Pericles

    a grotesque figure like Trump

     

    Lol, mind the glass house, buddy.
    , @El Dato
    I think we can forget about the completion of the program of German Idealism then?

    I never liked Hegel anyway. Guy was on crack.
    , @songbird
    I don't know how realistic a collapse is. I think a lot of people are deluding themselves into thinking that the world is some computer program that will crash and reboot, but is Brazil going to reboot? Or Venezuela? There may be some peaks and troughs, but nothing like a reboot.

    I've said his before, but it bears repeating: the answer to the Fermi Paradox may be Brazil. Maybe, what happens to worlds where intelligence develops is not some cosmic ray burst or nuclear or bio-war, but mass migration of sun peoples into ice peoples' lands. I'm not talking a return to agriculture, but a permanent post-industrial malaise, where welfare still exists and merit has no fecundity.

    When the Roman Empire collapsed, it was mostly Germans who had invaded them. What if it had been hundreds of millions of blacks? As terrifying as that thought is, that was an agricultural economy. Maybe, in time, it still would have righted itself. Perhaps, after all the books had rotted to pieces. But what we are talking about is something different.

    The US went to the moon. Russia could have gone. China will probably go. Could Brazil ever go? Eurabia? I'm not so sure.
    , @Miro23

    From a European perspective it seems pretty clear now that the US is irredeemable on every level and that neither its immigration policy nor its foreign policy aiming at permanent global hegemony will be changed without some drastic form of collapse.
     
    That's what it looks like. And it's a strange kind of "Global Hegemony" that runs permanent deficits, has outsourced its industrial base, has a divided society and levels of inequality never seen before in the Western world.

    Realistically, the US does look more like a failed state heading into some kind of social and economic collapse.
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  • The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia. Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The...
  • @polskijoe
    It was definitely a coup.

    And I know the "Polish" American Brzezinski played a role, especially in the Orange Revolution.
    So did many Neocons, Liberals (on both Republica and Democrat sides), etc.

    His children also continue to play the role today. Strong connections to Yatsenyuk, Sachevelli, and others.

    There were so many Westerners and money involved that you have to be nuts to deny it.



    And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too.

    said:
    “And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too.”

    So, how much of that was actually done, comrade?

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Pathetic. Calling me Comrade.

    Im anti Commie, but also antiNazi. And proud of it.


    Anyway: decent summary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Strauss


    its no use arguing with Wallystein Shekelgruber though so i'll end here.

    sodoh.net

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  • @Wally
    said:
    "And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too."

    So, how much of that was actually done, comrade?

    www.codoh.com

    Pathetic. Calling me Comrade.

    Im anti Commie, but also antiNazi. And proud of it.

    Anyway: decent summary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Strauss

    its no use arguing with Wallystein Shekelgruber though so i’ll end here.

    sodoh.net

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  • In the discussion of the results of the Presidential elections in Russia, Sen. John McCain claimed the result was an insult to all Russians. Israel Shamir on the pages of The Unz Review claimed they were rigged just a little. Some pro-Western Russian critics argued that that the very fact that Putin received over 75...
  • @Andrei Martyanov
    An excellent piece, but this statement is not entirely true:


    Military technology made a breakthrough of historical significance. For the first time ever Russia has weapons superior to those of the US, not to mention Britain, France and Germany combined.
     
    In fact, by early 1980s the technological gap not only was closed in crucial fields, in many the US was simply surpassed. There was lag, constantly decreasing, in computers and in some sensors (not radar). In fact, the list of the military technology in which USSR led the US by 1980-85 is huge. In fact, many breakthroughs of today in military, have their roots in Soviet programs of 1970-1980s. Just to give some example:

    In 1988, Anthony Batista, senior staff member of the Armed Forces Committee, speaking about the Soviet Project 971 (Schuka-Pike, NATO Akula) nuclear submarine declared, “The Akula is the best submarine in the world today.”
     
    Here are some estimates for 1989-1990 by none other than Norman Polmar--a person who doesn't need introduction to any military professional in the world. It shows some rather startling revelations (known really well in USSR) for Westerners about the real (more-or-less) state of the affairs:

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ky3HWNEjTVk/WrOzKSOSbQI/AAAAAAAABbA/nH02Jxuc8ecgtKNq_bgpdZ_FwyeN_IgHgCLcBGAs/s1600/Dynamics.jpg

    This is just one example. Issue of aerospace is a whole other story altogether. But, yes, this fine article gets to the heart of the issue quite well.

    Here is what supposedly a US report said:

    Soviet technology had unquestionable lead in 23 scientific areas.
    And the US had a lead in 18 areas.

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9bde3a837c197a71dfdff9e771029ae2

    I think after 1970s it was possibly equal, and before the end maybe USSR had an advantage.
    Also the projected status in that picture.

    Though when the USSR fell, I know some secrets were leaked and sold.

    From 1990-2000 the US had chance to improve wouldnt they?
    Since Russia was having internal errors and being robbed by certain tribal group…

    Then comes the spending today…. Russia spends way less but Russia isnt looking to match them in spending but finding “holes” to take advantages in key areas. Russian equipment usually costs less too.

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    Though when the USSR fell, I know some secrets were leaked and sold.
     
    Actually, the whole industries and technological know-hows were completely compromised. China transported plane-loads of documentation from aerospace plants in Ukraine and Russia. Rocketry, automatics systems, propulsion know-hows--all was transferred to China, West and in many cases to any higher bidder.

    From 1990-2000 the US had chance to improve wouldnt they?
     
    It, realistically, couldn't--the problem is not only technological or engineering, it is cultural.

    Then comes the spending today…. Russia spends way less but Russia isnt looking to match them in spending but finding “holes” to take advantages in key areas. Russian equipment usually costs less too.
     
    Actually, in military aerospace, armor, let alone AD even before Putin's announcements on March 1, Russia was more than a match technologically, and in some aspects--quantitatively. In general, relation and balance is much more complex in military field than just numbers of tanks, aircraft, submarines etc. US procurement practices are insane and make no operational or strategic sense. This is not the case in Russia.
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  • The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia. Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The...
  • @jilles dykstra
    The main Brussels' battle cry is 'populism'.
    In my opinion, populism is simply opposing political mainstream.
    But this mainstream is disintegrating, Hollande abolished the French socialist party, Parti Socialiste.

    In Germany Schulz, former EU top man, SPD member, the Socialist Party Germany, even had to step down as chairman in order to make SPD members agree with the SPD coalition with Merkel's CDU.
    Schulz obviously left his overpaid Brussels job in order to become chancellor.

    But also Merkel policies are breaking down.
    Her minister of the Interior, police, border control, immigration, naturalisation, granting asylum, Seehofer, states that he will reinstate border controls, as the EU does nothing.
    Polls show that 76% of Germans agree with him.
    What most Germans do not know is that oral instructions were given in Merkel's former chancellor period to customs and border police, not to stop any immigrant at the borders.

    Merkel and Seehofer now disagree on Islam, Merkel 'the Islam belongs to Germany', Seehofer 'the Islam is in Germany'.
    But in how far the German people and culture can be saved in the long run one wonders.
    Demographic calsulations show that with present differences in birth rates in 30 to 40 years time 30 to 40% of the Germans will be Muslims.
    As Merkel said 'they're here already'.
    What Merkel's objectives are or were, she if often compared to the sfinx.
    In any case Mutti, mom, cannot last much longer.

    E European countries reject Muslim immigrants.
    However, after the Muslim immigrants have been naturalised, under present EU rules, they can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away.
    If they want to settle in hostile communities is the question.

    Merkel is a puppet. She has history of socialism. And continues to ally with Socialists.

    Merkels faction CDU is more liberal
    than Seehofer who probably belongs to Bavarian group.

    Merkels faction has always pressured Bavarian Christian. For decades.

    Just read on F. Strauss and what happened.

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    So then, tell us what "F. Strauss" said.

    Verbatim citations, please.
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  • @Ivan
    Of course it was a coup, though not a South American style with colonels in charge. It was brought about in the first instance by American meddling, with the obligatory tidal wave of cash in the cover of so called Orange Revolutions and aided by the neo-Nazi faction among the Ukrainians. However fragile there was a constitutional order in the Ukraine, which held the Ukrainian and Russian speaking peoples of the Ukraine together. But the Westerners held the carrots of a Western lifestyle, which the Russians could not match. The bloodshed in that part of the world was instigated by the usual cabal of troublemakers. Putin was inclined to see the Ukrainians more as misguided Russians rather than anything else.

    It was definitely a coup.

    And I know the “Polish” American Brzezinski played a role, especially in the Orange Revolution.
    So did many Neocons, Liberals (on both Republica and Democrat sides), etc.

    His children also continue to play the role today. Strong connections to Yatsenyuk, Sachevelli, and others.

    There were so many Westerners and money involved that you have to be nuts to deny it.

    And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too.

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    said:
    "And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too."

    So, how much of that was actually done, comrade?

    www.codoh.com

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  • @annamaria
    The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874
    "On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. ...
    Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
    There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.
    Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. ... The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. ...
    Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. ...
    We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”
    -- Oded Yinon plan' fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, "ambassadors," "lords," and "elected leaders of the free world..." -- None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels' cowardice and lies.

    In reply to your lengthy posts:

    All I can say is the Oded Yinon lunatics are madmen
    and Boris Johnson with the Imperialist Torys are lunatics.

    And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

    Europe is in sad state on all sides. The same with USA and the West.

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    And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

     

    Very true. Poland was the first Eastern European country which adopted neoliberal model and thus served to a certain extent as "photo model" of neoliberalism for the rest of Eastern Europe and xUSSR space. So standard of living did not drop too low. The country was somewhat supported by EU and by the USA.

    Ukraine was royally raped economically in 1991-2000. Probably as bad as Russia, may be even worse.

    In 2014 Ukrainians were lured by unrealistic dream of getting Western European standard of living as a gift for breaking with Russia. As well as the resentment toward kleptocrat Yanukovich (which actually was pretty typical neoliberal politician; not much worse then Poroshenko )

    Now they start to understand that the EU will devour the corpse to the bones and they are stuck at the Central African level poverty of $2 a day or so (on average), but this is too late.

    A very typical story, a very typical outcome. Neoliberalism is a cancer. As Russian prime minister quipped about economic rape of Russia by local and Western neoliberals in 1991-2000: "We strived to get the best [economic] outcome, but it turned out like we got even worse then average. As always." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Chernomyrdin )

    So in a way they stepped on the same rake twice: once in 1991 and the second time in 2014. That's unforgivable.

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  • Cold War 2.0 started
    during the Bush years.
    when NATO expanded and USA pulled out of Ballistic missile treaty.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Well?? YPO?

    You do know you can click on 'comments/polskijoe' and check for responses to your posts? And maybe reply.
    , @annamaria
    The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874
    "On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. ...
    Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
    There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.
    Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. ... The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. ...
    Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. ...
    We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”
    -- Oded Yinon plan' fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, "ambassadors," "lords," and "elected leaders of the free world..." -- None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels' cowardice and lies.
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  • David Brooks writes in the NYT: Can Mr. Brooks find any quotations from the Federalist Papers, the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble, or Washington's Farewell Address to support his assumption that "the American experiment" was about immigration rather than self-government?
  • Its sad many Americans dont understand how Freemasonry works.

    I find this lack of knowledge more common on average with Protestant population…

    If you knew what some of their ideas and goals are, who wrote your constitution,
    who your founding fathers were (Freemasons and protribeProtestants).

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    This site is like a black hole for talking about freemasonry. Perhaps because digging into that part of history will actually compel you into looking forward.. into globalism and gender ideology. And this site is about white male identitarians arguing with each other about WWII. Rehash the past, mutter about the Jews. Nothing useful, like actual political groups, networks and current ideologies. Good for coverage of some foreign policy stuff, tho.

    Anyway, and what do you think about YPO (Young Presidents Organization)? Is it para-Masonic? I know it is 'discreet', selective/coercive, but does it have Masonic roots?

    , @Crawfurdmuir

    If you knew what some of their ideas and goals are, who wrote your constitution,
    who your founding fathers were (Freemasons and protribeProtestants).
     
    Many people (including enthusiastic Freemasons) make far too much of the role of Freemasonry in the American Revolution. It should be borne in mind that English Freemasonry had lost whatever political character following the failure of the Scottish rising of 1745. Yes, indeed, Washington and Franklin were Freemasons - but so was Lord Cornwallis. Indeed, one of the principal vectors through which Freemasonry was spread throughout the British empire was the Royal Army, which had numerous military lodges.

    During the time of the Revolution there were two rival Grand Lodges in England - the Antients, whose Grand Masters were the third and fourth Dukes of Atholl, and the Moderns, whose Grand Masters were Lord Petre and the Duke of Manchester. These two bodies were merged in 1813 as the United Grand Lodge of England, the first Grand Master of which was Augustus Frederick, Duke of Sussex - the sixth son of George III.

    So, the claim that the English-derived Freemasonry of the American Founders was in some respect radical or revolutionary does not seem to hold water. It used to be said that the Church of England was the establishment at prayer; so, Anglo-American Freemasonry was the establishment at lodge.

    Do not make the mistake of confusing Anglo-American Freemasonry with the political Freemasonry of continental Europe and Latin America. In countries without a tradition of parliamentary government, the lodges with their oaths of secrecy provided natural gathering places for political factions, especially those that happened to be in opposition to the government. Moreover, in historically Roman Catholic countries they tended to be strongly anti-clerical. This was especially so in the case of the Grand Orient of France. Poinsett, when he was U.S. minister to Mexico, reported that in that country the two systems of higher degrees had effectively become partisan entities - the yorquinas and the escoseses - rival factions in politics having adhered respectively to the York Rite and the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Such a state of affairs would be inconceivable in English-speaking Freemasonry.
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  • From the AP: Colonel Qaffafee was also unavailable for comment.
  • Sarkozy major crime wasnt taking money from gaddafi,

    but bombing Libya
    and then flooding Europe with immigrants.

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  • As the title of this article suggests, I think Russia’s President (and Prime Minister) has done – under the circumstances – a decent job over the last 18 years. Such rhetoric frequently elicits gasps and winces from many of my American friends (and several Russian ones) - especially as I lived in the States for...
  • @Mikhail
    The moderate Euromaidan types are quick to note stats thatr show pro-Bandera sentiment to be limited within Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.

    They don't have a good answer to the follow-up observation that the pro-Bandera wing has disproportionate influence from their actual numbers - partly due to the kind of violent intimidation that has been evident within Ukrainian nationalist circles.

    A Kharkov born ethnic Ukrainian told me of Ukrainian-American social gatherings, where the pro-Bandera types typically carry on on in a loud and menacing way - looking to weed out (for lack of a better term) folks who disagree with them.

    Someone I know who was married to a US think tank head, recalled a time when her then spouse's org hosted a Ukrainian gathering that included a group saying pro-Bandera things. When she protested to her husband, she was told to pipe down.

    In the US, the pro-Bandera types were involved with the bigoted Captive Nations Committee influenced Captive Nations Week. Richard Sakwa picked up on this in his book:

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Frontline_Ukraine.html?id=w1u0BQAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q=averko&f=false

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/08072014-twisted-history-against-russia-and-serbia-analysis/

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/twisted-history-against-russia-and-serbia/5390154

    Taras Szewchenko: 92-1
    Bogdan Chmielnicki: 84-4
    Stepan Bandera: 36-40
    Petlura: 28-32

    poll conducted from Ukraine:
    first number is support, second number no support.

    So support of the Bandera is 36.
    But im guessing the amount of Bandera nationalists/ultranationalists is less than 5.
    Perhaps higher concentrations in West Ukraine.

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  • An Israeli and eventually international Jewish mass hysteria erupted as of the last week of January 2018 over a Polish law that makes it a punishable offence to defame the Polish nation by speaking of “Polish concentration camps” or blaming the Polish people otherwise for the Jewish Holocaust. The hysteria started right at the top...
  • @L.K
    Change your handle to polskiTroll already, since that is all you are, really, a pathetic little chauvinist troll and a sad little LIAR.

    The war between Germany and Poland was NOT a case of naked German aggression, as you must know, right polskiTroll? I mean, even a lying, chauvinist pig like you, cannot pretend not to know about all the German land stolen at the end of WW1 and given to a recently created Poland, a country created after WW1 with totally inappropriate and unsustainable borders?
    Today, Poland sits on much stolen German lands.

    Had the stupid Polish junta accepted the fair German proposal for a return of the German Danzig corridor so the country could be reconnected to its East Prussia province, war could have been avoided. Instead, Poland went on to become WW2 useful Idiot. At the end of the war, it became a Soviet satellite for decades.
    Let's take a look at what some prominent figures from the winning side in WW1 had to say about those things:

    Lloyd George, the British Prime Minister, during the Paris negotiations:
    “I tell you once more, we would never have thought of giving to Poland a province that had not been Polish for the last 900 years…
    The proposal of the Polish Commission that we should place 2,100,000 Germans under the control of a people which is of a different religion and which has never proved its capacity for stable self-government throughout its history, must, in my judgment, lead sooner or later to a new war in the East of Europe...” 11)


    “France is not so much concerned with what is important to Poland, rather the French position is determined solely by the aim of weakening Germany.”12)

    “To surround Germany with small states, many of which are composed of peoples that have never governed themselves and that comprise large numbers of Germans who are demanding reunion with their homeland, such plans would be, it seems to me, a breeding ground for the most terrible reason for a future war.” 13)

    “... I knew that a time would come when Germany would respond to the cry of its exiled people and restore them to the Fatherland by force of arms.
    For that reason I renewed my pressure in the conference to reject the recommendations which incorporated in Poland towns and territories which were overwhelmingly German by language, race and inclination...” 14)
     

    listen you Square Head, nazi larper.

    German invaders stole Polish land. Murder millions of Poles. Destroyed and leveled tons of cities.

    Even Berlin was created by Slavic tribes.

    Gdansk created by Polish people.

    As were many of those cities you think are German.

    Polands current lands were created by Stalin. Poles had little choice.

    Hitlers offers were all crap. He was a lunatic mass murder.

    Nazi Germany lost. Deal with it.

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  • @polskijoe
    Hitler lovers and pro Nazi revisionists are annoying as hell. They can enjoy their diversity and liberalism. It was their policies which destroyed much of Europe resulting in Liberalism and Zionism winning.

    Ukrainian Nationalists and Nazi larpers like to claim 10-14 million Ukrainians died.

    Yet most expperts have agreed directly 3-5 million Ukrainian starved.. and a couple million more Russians/Khazaks/Caucasians/etc. It was known as Soviet famine. Holodomar refers to Ukrainians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

    (wikipedia is biased and sometimes wrong, but its superior to any Nazi crap).


    Now when some Nazi mass murdering, raping, genociding, evils were busy shooting people for being untermenschen, bombing cities, and sending them to death camps then obviously they are too blame.


    Honestly I have even heard some larpers even claim Kalergi was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew, etc.
    (Kalergi was Japan-Euro hybrid) and Stalin was Georgian (Djugasvili does NOT mean son of a Jew).


    I dislike organized Jewry, but I will never side with Liberty Lobby, revisionist, genocide deniers.

    Germany has been attacking Slavic lands for 1000 years. Teutonic Knights, antiPolish scum
    like Bismarck (also antiCatholic), Hitler (also antiCatholic), Fredrick the "great", etc.

    Hitler lovers and pro Nazi revisionists are annoying as hell.

    Hitler lovers make more sense than the Bolshie lovers (e.g., Stalin lovers) and the FDR and Churchill lovers, neither of whom had a dog in the fight.

    There would have been no Nazi movement if there had been no Wall Street financed Bolshie Revolution. Hitler was long on the defensive while the US and Great Britain never were threatened by any stretch of the imagination. So…it’s perfectly plain to see that FDR and Churchill were much worse than Hitler, and Stalin had been raising Hell long before Hitler came to power, so who’s worse there? I do admire Stalin for exterminating a lot of the old Bolshies and for letting Hitler circumvent parts of the Versailles Treaty by allowing the German military to train in the USSR. Still, Stalin was worse than Hitler by any measure, but better than the two amoral aristocrat dandy criminals, FDR and Churchill.

    So you FDR and Churchill lovers are not only annoying but as criminal as they and their money bag backers were.

    They can enjoy their diversity and liberalism. It was their policies which destroyed much of Europe resulting in Liberalism and Zionism winning.

    Nah, he who has the gold has the power. The New Yoik and London international bankers had the gold and were calling the shots. They were the main winners. It was they who destroyed Europe, and stunk up the US in the process, and they’re still doing it.

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  • @annamaria
    "Solhentsyn (who I respect) had no clue about the numbers though. The figures are a complete lie. I dont fall for low iq nonsense."
    - Have you personally had an access to the Soviet archives? Or you believe that since the facts (FACTS, documented facts) are inconvenient for the Jews it is Ok to sequester a book/documentary created by a Noble Prize Laureate in Literature. Who are you to bad-mouth Solzhenitsyn who stood up courageously to the Soviet regime when people like you were opportunistically submissive? Guess, the innocence of your mind does not allow you to take a look at Solzhenitsyn book: https://www.sott.net/article/271904-Solzhenitsyn-Banned-all-over-again http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    --- Too much against what your rabbi preaches on Saturdays, polskijoe?

    what the hell does your comment even mean?

    I said I respect him. But he was not an expert on the numbers.

    Soviet archives were realesed but partly…

    Look at the demographics, its impossible 60 million lost their lives.

    Are you gonna babble too much Adolf crap? who allied with Zionists?
    looks like you are the Jewess.

    FACT IS that a large number (and most) historians have lower estimates for Stalin murders.

    Do some research instead of depending on one or two estimates.

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    This is what you wrote about Solzhenitsyn documentary "Two Hundred Years Together:" "The figures are a complete lie. I dont fall for low iq nonsense. ... he was not an expert on the numbers."
    -- For a high-IQ-minded person like "polskijoe," the grammar could be better. And what are your numbers? What kind of expertise do you have, which allows you to smear Solzhenitsyn as if he was not smeared already by an army of Israel-firsters?
    Here was my post: "Have you personally had an access to the Soviet archives? Or you believe that since the facts (FACTS, documented facts) are inconvenient for the Jews it is Ok to sequester a book/documentary created by a Noble Prize Laureate in Literature. Who are you to bad-mouth Solzhenitsyn who stood up courageously to the Soviet regime when people like you were opportunistically submissive? Guess, the innocence of your mind does not allow you to take a look at Solzhenitsyn book: https://www.sott.net/article/271904-Solzhenitsyn-Banned-all-over-again http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    -- Again, who are you to smear the courageous free thinker? What is so hard for you accept in Solzhenitsyn book "Two Hundred Years Together?" According to Wikipedia, the book is "a comprehensive history of Jews in the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and modern Russia between the years 1795 and 1995..." The book has been sequestered by all publishing houses in the UK and US. Guess, the publishers believe, like you, that "The figures are a complete lie. I dont fall for low iq nonsense. ... he was not an expert on the numbers."
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  • Via /r/europe. Is Poland even a Slavic country? The most "based" (not to mention correct) countries are Eastern Europe minus Poland, Portugal, and the Brits and Irish. Portugal is surprising. The usual explanation for why they don't have a lot of Muslims - just 0.4% of the population, which is a basically Visegrad number -...
  • I also doubt Poland will legalize gay marriage in 10 years. Not even 20-30 years.

    The first step would be homo civil unions (which would already be bad).

    Certainly younger generations are becoming more socially liberalized. But not some great speed.

    What my concern is also Poland allows American troops on its soil (retard idea).
    American companies and banks (those same ones who help fund Nazi Germany).
    Massive wave of Ukrainians coming in (why so many so fast? why not tiny numbers? caps?).

    I have not much clue on what Poles see on races (because racial concepts vary around the world!).

    But certainly Poles dont want Muslims. 70% or thereabouts.

    Poles are sadly big supporters of EU. But that would change if Muslims come in large numbers.
    And then that support for EU would be 50 or less.

    Polish language is harder to much of West Europe. More trad, and more uni religion.
    So it will probably stay white though.

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  • What good is a “white” country, when everything becomes perverted…

    If Poland accepts faggotry, abortionsdemand, gender theory, radical feminism, The I will be ashamed of it.

    You can not only depend on race. You need culture, you need morals. Preferable all three.

    Rather have a Castizo who looks fairly white, over a Swede nordic homo, feminst, abortion, euthasia, supporters (90% of Sweden).

    Rather a Spaniard who has minor Maghreb/Berber adxmiture too.

    When almost 50% of Poles want American values, it makes me sick.

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  • An Israeli and eventually international Jewish mass hysteria erupted as of the last week of January 2018 over a Polish law that makes it a punishable offence to defame the Polish nation by speaking of “Polish concentration camps” or blaming the Polish people otherwise for the Jewish Holocaust. The hysteria started right at the top...
  • @Max Denken
    What might be added to this is the Gleiwitz Provocation, thought up by the same Reinhard Heydrich, head of the Gestapo and SD, who would become, first, the implementer of the Final Solution, and second, the cruel oppressor of Czechoslovakia, assassinated by the Czech underground.

    This was an attack by a small German special ops unit on the German radio station in the mixed-ethnicity Polish -German city of Gleiwitz (Gliwice), then under German rule, on August 31, 20:00. Utilized by Hitler as proof of a "Polish provocation," this triggered his attack just some hours later. Hitler's propaganda machine had also claimed several such fictitious Polish attacks on German territory, asserting the participation of not only "Polish insurgents" but regular Polish Army armor units.

    Max, thats all “fake and no proof”. Hitler was “good” guy.
    All Zionist propaganda.

    codoh.com
    ;)

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  • As the title of this article suggests, I think Russia’s President (and Prime Minister) has done – under the circumstances – a decent job over the last 18 years. Such rhetoric frequently elicits gasps and winces from many of my American friends (and several Russian ones) - especially as I lived in the States for...
  • @Mr. Hack

    Correct – even amongst Russian nationalists, there are few who want to incorporate Galicia or the Baltics.
     
    South Rus, including Central, Slobidska and Southern Ukraine would be better off left alone too, to continue developing the Ukrainian project. These areas have developed their own cultural and political ideas, not to mention their own separate Ukrainian language. Even by your own estimates, only 15-33% of natives within the fictitious 'Novorossiya' were supporters of some sort of confederation with Russia. That means that somewhere between 67-85% were not. Where I'm from, the majority's opinion always counts for more.

    Novorossia (I mean South and Southeast Ukraine)
    wouldnt have to join Russia.

    They can have their own countroy and have a referendum who is their main allies.
    They can be netural between Russia and Ukraine (if thats possible).

    As for Galicia, thats one confusing part, and I think they are partly responsible for the current
    retardation of the Ukrainian government.

    Is continuation of war better? (more deaths, more leaving to other countries, etc).
    Or peaceful division agreed by referendums?

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    Novorossia (I mean South and Southeast Ukraine)
    wouldnt have to join Russia.
    They can have their own countroy and have a referendum who is their main allies.
    They can be netural between Russia and Ukraine (if thats possible).
     
    Why do yo think they would want their country? They had their chance, if they wanted it, in 2014, and demonstrated loyalty to Ukraine.

    As for Galicia, thats one confusing part, and I think they are partly responsible for the current retardation of the Ukrainian government.

     

    Contrary to ridiculous ideas of Russian nationalists who feel good about pretending that Ukraine is in eternal 2015, current Ukrainian government is doing at least about as well as were previous ones, and no worse than anything a southern Ukrainian government could come up with.

    Is continuation of war better? (more deaths, more leaving to other countries, etc).
     
    Not Kiev's choice. Armed enemies on one side require a military border; lack of ceasefire results in inevitable small-scale clashes. Unless you mean unilateral capitulation, Ukraine will keep soldiers on the frontline.
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  • @Mikhail
    It's amazing how some intelligent people get subconsciously duped by believing too much in the mass media likes of CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, WaPo and NYT. In turn, these outlets typically censor those who successfully debunk the anti-Russian BS being peddled. If you don't appear at these venues on a regular basis (if at all) the assumption is because you're not qualified.

    Over the years, I've had numerous off record (with the understanding of confidentiality) exchanges with the preferred mass media likes. To date, none of them ever bested me. Regretfully, alternative venues (RT included) could and should be better.

    The other day, an NPR segment gave Carte Blanche to Bill Browder, who spoke of the recent Brit poisoning. He in matter of fact terms said that the Russian government was behind that poisoning. The NPR host didn't bother to note that this view isn't an established fact.

    RT is basically a reaction to the Western bs.
    And its good they cover topics the West wont.

    Of course RT is propagand and ive seen it make errors several times.
    Their comment section is trash (deletion, censoring, etc).

    For a list of Western bs:

    [MORE]

    The New York Times
    – The Washington Post
    – CNN
    – NBC News
    – MSNBC
    – CBS News
    – ABC News
    – Salon.com
    – The Huffington Post
    – Rolling Stone
    – BBC News
    – Sky News
    – Financial Times
    – Politico
    – New York Daily News
    – L.A. Times
    – USA Today
    – US News & World Report
    – CBC
    – Gawker
    – Newsweek
    – Time
    – Business Insider
    – Daily Beast
    – VICE
    – Yahoo News
    – Daily Kos
    – Young Turks
    – Slate
    – NPR
    – PBS
    – Raw Story
    – New Yorker
    – Buzzfeed
    – MoveOn
    – Think Progress
    – Media Matters
    – Center for American Progress
    – The Economist

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    Yep. Regarding RT:

    http://www.eurasiareview.com/29122014-with-room-for-improvement-rt-gives-time-to-diverse-views-analysis/
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  • Are you an anti-Semite? Wonder no longer! Take the poll here: Am I an anti-Semite? The SPLC and RationalWiki both seem to think so. But there are also those who believe I am a hasbara shill, or even Jewish myself. Either way, I don't appear to be a particularly enthusiastic philo/anti-Semitic propagandist - of the...
  • @Tyrion 2
    Youtube are committed to taking down copyrighted material. Yet such action is mostly only taken against much watched videos. Can you work out why? Hint, if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

    As for the hate hoax example. I actually don't know any others involving Jews hoaxing hate attacks on Jews. I know loads of ones involving other minority groups which makes this yet another example of Jews hopelessly trailing in the race to ultimate victimhood prizes.

    Nor do I think your assumption of that idiot's motivations is necessarily on point. There are many motivations that are just as likely.

    This is an honest question. Do you ever, even for a moment, wonder if you are actually a divorced from reality and somewhat crazy anti-Semite? Related question, what do you see in your mind's eye when you picture Youtube's censorship process happening?

    Jews do that short of stuff with false flags (or whatever you call it).

    I have read about at least 5 cases in the past 1-2 years in the US alone.
    I dont get have time to post them. but I have no reason to lie.

    pushing over graves were blamed on “anti-semites”, drawing swatiskas by a rabbi, bomb threats by israeli.
    not kidding.

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  • The replacement of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with CIA Director Mike Pompeo signals a hawkish shift in the administration's foreign policy that is clearly intended to prepare the country for a confrontation with Russia. Pompeo was not chosen for his diplomatic skills or his nuanced grasp of foreign relations but for his hardline approach...
  • @Paulv
    Why doesn't CHINA back Russia more in the UN ???

    Russia has to test a nuclear bomb and stream it live in 4k HD to remind the western axis

    China is more globalist than Russian in some ways.

    Do you think they got rich without help?

    Kissinger, Rothschilds, Rockefeller had influence in China.
    they talked with popular Chinese figures.

    China is just getting rich, and who knows what else they plan.

    They are increasing their military spending by billions a year.

    But yet they havent done much to support Russia outside of business.

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    Kissinger, Rothschilds, Rockefeller had influence in China.
    they talked with popular Chinese figures.
     
    Good point. Here's more.:

    Since 1895...Russia...learned to make a fairly decent product; more dangerous, she had learned to market. She first appeared in Europe in 1885. It took ten years to make her a formidable rival, but she is so to-day, and, in spite of temporary alliances and combinations, it is very doubtful whether the Standard will ever permanently control Russian oil...

    In the East the oil market belonged practically to the Standard Oil Company until recently. Last year (1930), however, Sumatra imported more oil into China than America, and Russia imported nearly half as mush. About 91,500,000 gallons of kerosene went into Calcutta last year, and of this only about six million gallons came from America. In Singapore representatives of Sumatra oil claim that they have two thirds of the trade.

    https://www.bilderberg.org/whatafel.htm

     

    Now maybe some will understand some points regarding the war in the Pacific. Hint: It wasn't Japanese perfidy. Couldn't let Hitler get in on the bonanza, either.

    All wars are money bags' wars.
    , @TT
    They did offer, do you need some S300 variants HQ9 AA or Kilo class AIP modified Submarines? How about some improved AK47? DF subsonic missiles? J20 & J31 prototypes? H6K bombers? Liaoning a/carrier? Missile boats & destroyer?

    Hell No?

    How about lot of upfront cash from huge deals, FDI, huge market for Russia export, ...and some vodka variant Baijiu. Plus their Special Force already inside to get real war experience & wipe out Uyghur terrorists. Plenty of drones, weapons for Syria SAA. Petrol Yuan to collapse unlimited dollars printing.

    Come on, what else you still want from China who supposed to uphold its non interference policy with still budding military development? PLAN will go into ME if Russia requested like previous Black seas exercise. But Putin has enough lethal weapons to sober up Uncle Scam now.
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  • The United States has launched a three-pronged offensive on Russia. First, it's attacking Russia's economy via sanctions and oil-price manipulation. Second, it's increasing the threats to Russia's national security by arming and training militant proxies in Syria and Ukraine, and by encircling Russia with NATO forces and missile systems. And, third, it's conducting a massive...
  • @jacques sheete

    First of all, Stalin had no such intention.
     
    Wasn't he a Marxist/ Leninist? Didn't they aspire to permanent world revolution?

    You geography is off – Russia wasn’t on the Germany’s doorsteps.
     
    You're command of English is off. It's a figure of speech, and in this case, it's accurate.

    Peoples political positions change.

    Hitler change over time.
    Stalin changed over time.

    Stalin was a Stalinist. Not really a Marxist or Leninist or Trotskist.

    In fact I argue he was a National Socialist (not refering to Nazism exactly) more so than Hitler was after 1939-41.
    Policy of “Socialism in one country ”

    His theory was in opposite to constant revolution or world revolution.

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  • As the title of this article suggests, I think Russia’s President (and Prime Minister) has done – under the circumstances – a decent job over the last 18 years. Such rhetoric frequently elicits gasps and winces from many of my American friends (and several Russian ones) - especially as I lived in the States for...
  • Part 1:

    Russia has return to great power status. (not superpower imo, due to economy, and still demographic problems,).

    Russians tended to like strong leaders, and thats how they role.

    Never understood why Western elites whine about Putin “non-democracy”
    when all the West is no democracy.

    What we have is pseudo liberal democracy
    vs pseudo non-liberal democracy (in fact Poland and Russia are similar in this regard, and so on are many many countries).

    Part2:

    Economy. Projections for future economy always change.
    Atm. Russian PPP is supposed to pass German PPP around 2030.
    And passing Japan by 2045-2050.

    Demographics:

    Japans population will fall significantly.
    Russian population will fall.

    Uk/Germany/France will only keep or increase assuming they keep importing masses of foreigners.

    Potential:

    The Russians could diversify their economy, and tap more into natural resources. Someone create a more “happy” people to improve moral and production.
    Theoretically, they could have an economy of Italy + Germany combined.
    Which is higher than Japan by a significant margin.

    However, the Russians have to be careful about foreign businesses buying parts of their own sector.
    Like China buying half of a gas/oil providers

    So I dont know.

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    Never understood why Western elites whine about Putin “non-democracy”
    when all the West is no democracy.
     
    There is no understanding it. Those who do that are the craziest of crackpots, and that's what eventually and inevitably floats to the top in Western "civilization."

    Who could expect reasonable behavior from the likes of McCain, Hillary, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Kissinger and a myriad more? And their handlers behind the scenes are no doubt much worse. They are psychopathic liars, thieves and murderers and no sane person could ever understand them. ( I understand 'em because as I'm often reminded, I'm as crazy as I am ignorant.)

    Lesson: Don't try to understand them. The only thing to do is mock 'em and ignore 'em as much as possible and neuter them in any way possible.
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  • An Israeli and eventually international Jewish mass hysteria erupted as of the last week of January 2018 over a Polish law that makes it a punishable offence to defame the Polish nation by speaking of “Polish concentration camps” or blaming the Polish people otherwise for the Jewish Holocaust. The hysteria started right at the top...
  • @renfro

    But this essay is about the 20+ million — the 20+ million of Slavs that Hitler murdered, close to 2.8 million of them Poles
     
    Careful ....you are competing with the Jews in victimhood claims. Do you want reparations also?
    War is hell, everybody dies..75 million died in WWII.

    {Careful ….you are competing with the Jews in victimhood claims. Do you want reparations also?}

    Jews can do whatever they want: victimhood claims, demand reparations….whatever.
    Nothing to do with Slavs.

    As to Slavs: they are not the kind of ethnos to worry too much about ‘victimhood claims’, although I wish they were more assertive in reminding Merkel and her Neocon puppets not to keep pushing Russia. Russians also are too timid (too nice) in reminding Germans what their Nazi predecessors did to Soviet peoples, overwhelmingly Slavic peoples. And yeah, Russia should remind Merkel and her thugs that reparations are not off the table – if they keep jacking Russia.

    {War is hell, everybody dies..75 million died in WWII.}

    That’s nice. How convenient. Nobody to blame. People just up and die.
    Except Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR and caused the deaths of ~25 million Soviet citizens: troops KIA, and civilians dead due to conditions of war Nazis visited on them, and killed, and murdered.

    Yeah, everybody dies: but if you die of old age or natural causes – then you die: no foul.
    But if somebody murders you, then there are consequences.
    Or you think murder and death of natural are the same…….’everybody dies’

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    • Replies: @renfro

    That’s nice. How convenient. Nobody to blame. People just up and die.
    Except Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR and caused the deaths of ~25 million Soviet citizens: troops KIA, and civilians dead due to conditions of war Nazis visited on them, and killed, and murdered.
     
    Oh grow the hell up.....almost every country in the universe has made war on someone, killed people, genocided people, imprisoned people , enslaved people, tortured people, robbed people.....including my own country, the USA

    So fucking what.....what are you doing today to try and prevent more wars?

    Russia killed plenty of its own people moron. Why don't you form a committee to exhume the corpses of Stalin and Lenin so you can prop them up in the dock and yell .....Blame! , Blame!, Blame !.

    Nitwit.
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  • @Tiny Duck
    People of Color are the future and they believe in globalism

    Pretty much everyone believes in globalism except losers who cant hack it

    before you make such bold statements,

    define globalism in detail… (because there are plenty of definitions).

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  • There are three groupings:

    Globalists
    The In Betweens
    AntiGlobalists

    Western think tanks believe we are moving to the In Betweens.
    Also also admit the world is moving to bipolar and/or multipolar world..

    And I think thats good.

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  • An Israeli and eventually international Jewish mass hysteria erupted as of the last week of January 2018 over a Polish law that makes it a punishable offence to defame the Polish nation by speaking of “Polish concentration camps” or blaming the Polish people otherwise for the Jewish Holocaust. The hysteria started right at the top...
  • @Vojkan
    Jews as an ethnic / religious group have ceased to inspire me sympathy for quite some time. Yet I confess that posts by apologists of Hitler and Nazi Germany puzzle me. People, tell me, what excuses do you have in store for the invasions of Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greece? Those definitely weren't bolshevik nor jewish run countries then and posed no threat whatsoever to Germany. So why did the peace-loving nazis attack them?

    So glad the Nazis lost. And all their revisionist fairy tales wont change anything.

    Commie/Jews/Zionists/Americans/Brits
    anyday over those lunatics.

    And I dislike all those groups.

    Nazi Germany was lucky it didnt receive Morgenthau or Roosevelt plans.

    It was lucky the Soviets didnt level them to the ground after what what happened in Leningrad, Moscow, Kiev, Stalingrad, Warsaw, and many more.

    Lets face it all these revionists/deniers would be destroyed in court, in any country,
    by actual experts.

    Just about everyone acknowledges and knows the Nazis slaughtered millions and millions.

    No amount of revionisism or denail, will ever change the truth.

    Again I repeat Germanics have been attacking Slavic lands for 1000 years.

    Tuetonic Knights, General Plan Ost, Drang Nacht Osten, fake Prussians,
    barbarians, Swedes, etc, etc, etc

    Yet according to the codoh fanatics, nah no way. Germany was innocent.
    No genocides, no holocaust, no priests killed, millions and millions of Poles, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Russians were not killed.

    hey. the Earth is flat too! lol.

    Everyone is wrong. The Poles, the Russians, the Jews, all the experts on WW2,
    All those witnesses. ALL of them are wrong according to codoh.

    only codoh is right. HAHAHAHAHA.

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    • Replies: @L.K
    Change your handle to polskiTroll already, since that is all you are, really, a pathetic little chauvinist troll and a sad little LIAR.

    The war between Germany and Poland was NOT a case of naked German aggression, as you must know, right polskiTroll? I mean, even a lying, chauvinist pig like you, cannot pretend not to know about all the German land stolen at the end of WW1 and given to a recently created Poland, a country created after WW1 with totally inappropriate and unsustainable borders?
    Today, Poland sits on much stolen German lands.

    Had the stupid Polish junta accepted the fair German proposal for a return of the German Danzig corridor so the country could be reconnected to its East Prussia province, war could have been avoided. Instead, Poland went on to become WW2 useful Idiot. At the end of the war, it became a Soviet satellite for decades.
    Let's take a look at what some prominent figures from the winning side in WW1 had to say about those things:

    Lloyd George, the British Prime Minister, during the Paris negotiations:
    “I tell you once more, we would never have thought of giving to Poland a province that had not been Polish for the last 900 years…
    The proposal of the Polish Commission that we should place 2,100,000 Germans under the control of a people which is of a different religion and which has never proved its capacity for stable self-government throughout its history, must, in my judgment, lead sooner or later to a new war in the East of Europe...” 11)


    “France is not so much concerned with what is important to Poland, rather the French position is determined solely by the aim of weakening Germany.”12)

    “To surround Germany with small states, many of which are composed of peoples that have never governed themselves and that comprise large numbers of Germans who are demanding reunion with their homeland, such plans would be, it seems to me, a breeding ground for the most terrible reason for a future war.” 13)

    “... I knew that a time would come when Germany would respond to the cry of its exiled people and restore them to the Fatherland by force of arms.
    For that reason I renewed my pressure in the conference to reject the recommendations which incorporated in Poland towns and territories which were overwhelmingly German by language, race and inclination...” 14)
     
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  • @Dmitry

    Completely agree.

    The German, American and Jewish elites. Tried to destroy your country.

    Even today Khodovorsky says that Putin isnot the future and “we will be the future”
    By we he means Jews.
     

    Conspiracy theory doesn't exactly get off the ground, because Khodorkovsky is not Jewish.

    He is what they call in Israel - a non-Jewish son of a Jew. Or 'non-Jew with Jewish roots'. His father was a Jew and his mother was not Jewish.

    To be accepted by Jews, you need a Jewish mother.

    If he went to Israel, he would not be able to marry a Jewish woman, and he would be buried in a separate graveyard built for non-Jews. Even in Russia, he would not be able join any synagogue.

    If there was a Jewish plot, they would need to have the actual Jews running it (i.e. people who could qualify for synagogue membership).

    Mikhail Prokhorov and Roman Abramovich are examples of real Jews, which would be allowed into synagogue membership.

    I reject the Jewish ultra religious definition of who is a Jew.

    Therefore Soros and Khodorovosky are Jews.

    Why should I care if its the mother or father?

    a Jew (anyone with significant Jewish ancestry, follower of Judaism, or one who follows Jewish ethnoculture).

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    I reject the Jewish ultra religious definition of who is a Jew.

    Therefore Soros and Khodorovosky are Jews.

    Why should I care if its the mother or father?

    a Jew (anyone with significant Jewish ancestry, follower of Judaism, or one who follows Jewish ethnoculture).
     

    How would you get Jewish plot off the ground with those guys who, although they could qualify for Israeli citizenship, are being categorized by Jews as non-Jews, who are not allowed to join any synagogue (either in Russia or Israel), or to be buried in a Jewish cemetery, or to marry a Jewish woman in Israel.

    It would not be a loyal set of plotters, if they cannot even attend synagogue, and are a kind of 'unwanted outcasts' for the Jews themselves.

    The other definition of Jews (from the non-Jews), of course you are right that it is mixed cases.

    Khodorkovsky must have some Jewish sentimentality towards of feeling of being Jewish. But he is categorized by the Jews, as non-Jewish. And it would not exactly instill much Jewish feeling in him, when he finds himself being called by Jews - and all Israelis - as a non-Jew and buried in separate the non-Jewish grave site.

    For Jews - the maternal grandmother is what they care about.

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  • Couple corrections:

    Russia had the 2nd highest economy in 1913 in Europe
    3rd highest in the world.

    After the revolution Russia dropped to 4th in Europe and somewhere between 6-15 in world.

    Only by 1928 they return to numbers of 1913.

    [quote]Lenin and Trotsky and their ilk mass murdered thousands of churches,
    killed many Orthodox.[/quote]

    they mass murdered millions of Russians (and some others).
    destroyed thousands of churches and killed thousands of priests.

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  • @Anatoly Karlin

    Without the USSR, Russia today might not even be a nuclear power, let alone a nuclear superpower.
     
    Erm, why?

    The Civil War/Red Terror knocked Russia back a decade economically - a bit more in terms of high academia (Russian Empire had highest number of university students in Europe in 1913, and one of the most meritocratic admissions systems; the 1920s USSR did away with entrance exams).

    Doubtful that Stalin's sharashkas and purges did anything to accelerate scientific progress either. The converse is likelier.

    Completely agree.

    The German, American and Jewish elites. Tried to destroy your country.

    Even today Khodovorsky says that Putin isnot the future and “we will be the future”
    By we he means Jews.

    He wants another repeat of that civil war.

    Around 1913, the Russians had the first or second largest economy.
    Lots of grain supplies. They were improving in many sectors.

    Then the homosexuals from the West came.

    Between 1917-1925, 30-50 percent of grain supplies disapppeared,
    millions of people were killed.
    The economy dropped to significantly.

    Lenin claimed that Russians were stupid, and that only Jews and Letts could make Russia strong.

    Lenin and Trotsky and their ilk mass murdered thousands of churches,
    killed many Orthodox..

    The USSR only returned to levels of 1913 by 1925-1933.

    (keep in mind im going from memory, so my figures may be off).

    Then after USSR fell, the Jews (Adelson, and others) destroyed the economy more.
    1 trillion dollars literally disappeared from USSR territory. (half off it from Russia).

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    Completely agree.

    The German, American and Jewish elites. Tried to destroy your country.

    Even today Khodovorsky says that Putin isnot the future and “we will be the future”
    By we he means Jews.
     

    Conspiracy theory doesn't exactly get off the ground, because Khodorkovsky is not Jewish.

    He is what they call in Israel - a non-Jewish son of a Jew. Or 'non-Jew with Jewish roots'. His father was a Jew and his mother was not Jewish.

    To be accepted by Jews, you need a Jewish mother.

    If he went to Israel, he would not be able to marry a Jewish woman, and he would be buried in a separate graveyard built for non-Jews. Even in Russia, he would not be able join any synagogue.

    If there was a Jewish plot, they would need to have the actual Jews running it (i.e. people who could qualify for synagogue membership).

    Mikhail Prokhorov and Roman Abramovich are examples of real Jews, which would be allowed into synagogue membership.

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  • An Israeli and eventually international Jewish mass hysteria erupted as of the last week of January 2018 over a Polish law that makes it a punishable offence to defame the Polish nation by speaking of “Polish concentration camps” or blaming the Polish people otherwise for the Jewish Holocaust. The hysteria started right at the top...
  • @Wally
    One of longest '6M Jews' pieces of propaganda ever presented on www.unz.com
    No proof is presented whatsoever.

    Max Denken tries to slide by the utterly impossible 'holocaust' fantasy under the guise of Poles & Jews arguing over bragging rights is truly hilarious. A great example of GIGO: 'garbage in, garbage out.

    Oh! What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice To Deceive"

    See Max Denken & his easily debunked 'holocau$t' nonsense further debunked in this thread:
    http://www.unz.com/freed/the-future-of-the-jews/

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    Only lies require censorship and jail terms for free speech & Thought Crimes.

    Wise up & see the 'holocaust' scam easily & thoroughly debunked here: http://codoh.com
    Join in, No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    You like to troll and spam your fake website: so let me return the favor…

    Where is the proof millions of Germans died in WW2?

    Where are the bodies?

    Why do Germans send reperations to Jews, but not Poles or Russians or Greeks?
    Why did German collaborate with Zionists?
    Why did Germany send commies to Russia?
    Why Does Germany still attack Poland to this day?
    Why does Germany favor Muslims and Jews over Slavs?

    No name calling…

    sodoh.com

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    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    I would say that there is indeed proof that hundreds of thousands of German, French and Italian civilians were indeed incinerated by the RAF and Allied air forces. They never made a secret about their intent and openly boasted about it in newsreels and their own propaganda publications. There is plenty of authentic video footage of Dresden burning- not to mention of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Also, the Soviet propaganda- a la Ilya Ehrenburg- openly called upon the Red Army soldiers to kill Germans. Little distinction was made between civilians and members of the Wehrmacht. The mass rapes of German women by the Red Army were likewise well documented.

    The numbers of German victims may well be exaggerated, however.

    Free French General Juin did give free reign to the Moroccan troops to rape the women in the villages around Monte Cassino and this has not been forgotten to this day in Italy. This is another Allied war crime that has been glossed over, just like the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff, the Goya, and the Cape Arcona.

    On the other hand, there is no physical evidence that the Germans indiscriminately slaughtered Slavs and Jews and there is no authentic documentary foundation for this. The Germans even gave p.o.w. status to many of the members of the Polish Home Army captured after the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising. And one can judge for oneself whether the Polish p.o.w.'s at Dachau "liberated" by the US Army look mistreated or ill fed.
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  • @Wally
    recited:
    "Hmmm so, according to you, why before the war Poland had 3 million Jewish citizens, and after war 100.000?"

    Who said that? Not me.

    It is you who says they went to enormous & known mass graves. So why can't you show us the alleged huge Jew remains?

    Tell us how the alleged, laughable, but impossible 'gas chambers' worked.

    You predictably dodged these questions:

    - If some are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered, then why do they ask such dumb questions like "what happened to them then?

    After all, Jews say '6M Jews & 5M others' went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews can show us nothing of the kind.

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$"?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    Must reads here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos: http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1
    Probing the Holocaust, pt. 1 https://codoh.com/library/document/4056/?lang=en
    and:
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    www.codoh.com

    [quote]- If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$”?\ [/quote]

    primitive question.

    because people find ways to escape, because people helped Jews, because many survived in camps and were released after the war.

    once the Nazi mass murderers getting destroyed by Slavics, they didnt have time finish their job.

    [quote]After all, Jews say ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews can show us nothing of the kind. [/quote]

    who cares what “Jews claim” (I doubt most of them claim that).

    3 million Poles were slaughtered
    4 million Ukrainians
    2 million Belarussians
    Even more Russians.

    Heck all credible estimates like at least 6 milion in Poland died, and 23-27 million in SU.

    You might convince 80-90 iqs of your bs. But it doesnt work on most normal people.

    Nazis at least had some intellgiene (though evil),
    while neonazis have double digit iqs.

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  • @DESERT FOX
    These figures of 50 to 60 million are from Solzhentsyns book The Gulag Archipelago and Robert Conquests book Harvest of Sorrow, and others. The Jews were the vast majority of the communists in the Soviet aka communist government and ran the slaughter houses known as the Cheka, etc., these figures are not an exaggeration , and in fact may be on the low side.

    If the Zionists take our guns away we will see similar events right here in River City.

    The figures are a complete lie. I dont fall for low iq nonsense.

    I have read Solzehnitsyn and Rummels studies. And many many more.

    Solhentsyn (who I respect) had no clue about the numbers though.

    Lets talk about Robert Conquest then and see how smart you are:

    The Harvest of Sorrow… Conquest said he didnt have enough sources to confirm his findings.

    In Great Terror book he suggested 20 million-30.
    Robert Conquest later changed his estimate to ~15 million to 20 million.

    US exagerated estimates for political purposes and ignorance.

    Want more facts?

    Jews were in high numbers during the Bolshevik times up (in the top leadership). Each decade later their numbers dropped and influence dropped. Which is why most Jews with Commie sympathy today support Trotsky and Lenin, not Stalin.

    I admit that many Gulag leaders during the 1930s were Jews. and Cheka.

    Either way

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    I stand by what I said.
    , @annamaria
    "Solhentsyn (who I respect) had no clue about the numbers though. The figures are a complete lie. I dont fall for low iq nonsense."
    - Have you personally had an access to the Soviet archives? Or you believe that since the facts (FACTS, documented facts) are inconvenient for the Jews it is Ok to sequester a book/documentary created by a Noble Prize Laureate in Literature. Who are you to bad-mouth Solzhenitsyn who stood up courageously to the Soviet regime when people like you were opportunistically submissive? Guess, the innocence of your mind does not allow you to take a look at Solzhenitsyn book: https://www.sott.net/article/271904-Solzhenitsyn-Banned-all-over-again http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    --- Too much against what your rabbi preaches on Saturdays, polskijoe?
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  • @polskijoe

    The holocaust involved more than the jews, there were many other races and religions that were sent to death in the camps,
     
    Agreed. Actually the Jews were a minority of those killed.

    , and all of these are small in comparison the what the communist jews in Russia did to the Russian people, an estimated 50 to 60 million were killed from 1917 to 1953.
     
    Completely disagree. Those figures outdated and disproven. Most of those estimates were made before known files were realeased. Some of those estimates were made decades ago.

    Victims killed by Stalin included Russians but also large amounts of nonRussians.


    It’s useless to argue with religious fanatics, and so you’ll not succeed in convincing @desert fox or the Hitler-was-cool crazies trolling here. You can no more teach them the facts as to exactly who murdered the 30-40 million Russians as you can about the Holodomor.

    “The Jews” murdered millions of Ukrainians, they’ll continue proclaiming to their dying day, even though already in 2010, a high court in Kiev — and that’s perhaps the least philosemitic city in Europe — decreed that the blame for the Holodomor rests with one Georgian, two Russians, two Jews, one Pole and one Ukrainian. http://memorialholodomor.org.ua/eng/holodomor/genocide/court-order.

    Likewise, if you mention that Stalin, Lenin, Beria, Yezhov, Blokhin, Dherzhinsky etc. etc. were not Jews, they’ll pull out something written by a similarly deranged mind, arguing that they were.
    It’s useless. I just wish they stopped trolling here and went to their IHR, Faurisson, Duke & Co. — a friendly environment for them that I would not be as uncivil as invading.

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    It’s useless to argue with religious fanatics...
     
    Does that include fake monotheists, rabid JINOs, deranged rabbis, and "ethno"-fanatics such as the Izzy first crowd?

    How do we deal with the likes of this creature and its supporters?


    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.”According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel.
    "Hate the Gentile!" Israel’s Racist Rabbis, by JONATHAN COOK
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/
     
    What about one of the chief agitators for war, "rabbi" Stephen Wise, an intimate of FDR, the Red? What are we to think?
    , @polskijoe
    Hitler lovers and pro Nazi revisionists are annoying as hell. They can enjoy their diversity and liberalism. It was their policies which destroyed much of Europe resulting in Liberalism and Zionism winning.

    Ukrainian Nationalists and Nazi larpers like to claim 10-14 million Ukrainians died.

    Yet most expperts have agreed directly 3-5 million Ukrainian starved.. and a couple million more Russians/Khazaks/Caucasians/etc. It was known as Soviet famine. Holodomar refers to Ukrainians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

    (wikipedia is biased and sometimes wrong, but its superior to any Nazi crap).


    Now when some Nazi mass murdering, raping, genociding, evils were busy shooting people for being untermenschen, bombing cities, and sending them to death camps then obviously they are too blame.


    Honestly I have even heard some larpers even claim Kalergi was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew, etc.
    (Kalergi was Japan-Euro hybrid) and Stalin was Georgian (Djugasvili does NOT mean son of a Jew).


    I dislike organized Jewry, but I will never side with Liberty Lobby, revisionist, genocide deniers.

    Germany has been attacking Slavic lands for 1000 years. Teutonic Knights, antiPolish scum
    like Bismarck (also antiCatholic), Hitler (also antiCatholic), Fredrick the "great", etc.

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  • @Max Denken
    @polskijoe
    It's useless to argue with religious fanatics, and so you'll not succeed in convincing @desert fox or the Hitler-was-cool crazies trolling here. You can no more teach them the facts as to exactly who murdered the 30-40 million Russians as you can about the Holodomor.

    "The Jews" murdered millions of Ukrainians, they'll continue proclaiming to their dying day, even though already in 2010, a high court in Kiev -- and that's perhaps the least philosemitic city in Europe -- decreed that the blame for the Holodomor rests with one Georgian, two Russians, two Jews, one Pole and one Ukrainian. http://memorialholodomor.org.ua/eng/holodomor/genocide/court-order.

    Likewise, if you mention that Stalin, Lenin, Beria, Yezhov, Blokhin, Dherzhinsky etc. etc. were not Jews, they'll pull out something written by a similarly deranged mind, arguing that they were.
    It's useless. I just wish they stopped trolling here and went to their IHR, Faurisson, Duke & Co. -- a friendly environment for them that I would not be as uncivil as invading.

    Hitler lovers and pro Nazi revisionists are annoying as hell. They can enjoy their diversity and liberalism. It was their policies which destroyed much of Europe resulting in Liberalism and Zionism winning.

    Ukrainian Nationalists and Nazi larpers like to claim 10-14 million Ukrainians died.

    Yet most expperts have agreed directly 3-5 million Ukrainian starved.. and a couple million more Russians/Khazaks/Caucasians/etc. It was known as Soviet famine. Holodomar refers to Ukrainians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

    (wikipedia is biased and sometimes wrong, but its superior to any Nazi crap).

    Now when some Nazi mass murdering, raping, genociding, evils were busy shooting people for being untermenschen, bombing cities, and sending them to death camps then obviously they are too blame.

    Honestly I have even heard some larpers even claim Kalergi was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew, etc.
    (Kalergi was Japan-Euro hybrid) and Stalin was Georgian (Djugasvili does NOT mean son of a Jew).

    I dislike organized Jewry, but I will never side with Liberty Lobby, revisionist, genocide deniers.

    Germany has been attacking Slavic lands for 1000 years. Teutonic Knights, antiPolish scum
    like Bismarck (also antiCatholic), Hitler (also antiCatholic), Fredrick the “great”, etc.

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    Hitler lovers and pro Nazi revisionists are annoying as hell.
     
    Hitler lovers make more sense than the Bolshie lovers (e.g., Stalin lovers) and the FDR and Churchill lovers, neither of whom had a dog in the fight.

    There would have been no Nazi movement if there had been no Wall Street financed Bolshie Revolution. Hitler was long on the defensive while the US and Great Britain never were threatened by any stretch of the imagination. So...it's perfectly plain to see that FDR and Churchill were much worse than Hitler, and Stalin had been raising Hell long before Hitler came to power, so who's worse there? I do admire Stalin for exterminating a lot of the old Bolshies and for letting Hitler circumvent parts of the Versailles Treaty by allowing the German military to train in the USSR. Still, Stalin was worse than Hitler by any measure, but better than the two amoral aristocrat dandy criminals, FDR and Churchill.

    So you FDR and Churchill lovers are not only annoying but as criminal as they and their money bag backers were.


    They can enjoy their diversity and liberalism. It was their policies which destroyed much of Europe resulting in Liberalism and Zionism winning.
     
    Nah, he who has the gold has the power. The New Yoik and London international bankers had the gold and were calling the shots. They were the main winners. It was they who destroyed Europe, and stunk up the US in the process, and they're still doing it.
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  • @jilles dykstra
    Germany, including those who died after WWII, 11 million, about 25%;

    Germany alone lost 8% (no where near 25% percent).

    Including Austria, and Germans outside Germany: losses = 9%

    (in both posts losses I refer to dead and missing).

    Im wondering what BS source you are using? Rense? Liberty Lobby? IHR?

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    British historian Charmley states nine million
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005

    I add one million deaths after 1945, civilians in misery, in a destroyed country, with a diet with less calories than the Germans gave to the inmates of the camps.

    I further add one million POW's murdered by hunger and exposure by Eisenhower and De Gaulle

    James Bacque, ´Der geplante Tod, Deutsche Kriegsgefangene in amerikanischen und französischen Lagern 1945 – 1946, Frankfurt/M, 1989, 1994 (Other losses, Toronto, 1989

    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    Lindbergh visited a dying POW in one of the open air camps, a specialist in developing a rocket engine for the V3, meant to reach the USA.

    Paul Bonnecarrère, ´Par le sang versé, La Legion étrangère en Indochine’ , Paris, 1968, 2006
    German POW's could escape dying of hunger in French camps by joining the French Foreign Legion, often then dying in Indochina.

    Heinz Leiwig, ´Deutschland Stunde Null, Historische Luftaufnahmen 1945’, Stuttgart 2005
    Airial pictures of a destroyed country, you can also see the open air prison camps where the POW's perished.
    It is even asserted that nearly dead POW's were bulldozed into death by suffocation.
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  • @Miro23

    The memo gave the Polish government a three-point ultimatum: either “resolve” this issue –- needless to say to America’s and international Jewry’s satisfaction — or else Poland’s leaders will be barred from White House meetings, U.S. Congress will block funds for joint military projects in Poland including the stationing of U.S. troops there within the NATO framework, and there will be further “dramatic” consequences in case an American citizen is charged under the new law.
     
    A good opportunity for Poland to finish with the USA. Poland doesn't have any real "security guarantee" from the US, and any lingering affection for Ronald Reagan among the Poles, is wholly misplaced. The current US administration is just putting Poland in the front line of a fabricated US/Russia conflict - so it's a good opportunity to remove NATO troops from the country along with their missiles and missile bases.

    Poles, like many other people around the world, have lost contact with the US public, and are realizing that they are dealing instead with the psychotic crowd that cooked up WMD and did 9/11.

    Anglo (in US and UK) with their Jewish money masters and “intellectuals”

    want Europe to be divided. Making sure no group dominates.

    1)They want to prevent Russia-German relations
    2)They want to prevent Polish-Russian relations.

    Poles MUST understand the US will choose Israel and Jews over Poles.

    Many Polish generals know that US will do little to help.
    40% of Poles think NATO would NOT help against major invasion.

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    Poles MUST understand the US will choose Israel and Jews over Poles.

    Many Polish generals know that US will do little to help.
     
    This much is clear, so being realistic, Poland needs to remove NATO missile bases. Poland will get nothing from the US, so a least reduce the risk by stopping cooperation with the US in threatening Russia from Polish soil.
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  • @German_reader

    And we know, presumably, that this term has been used in German national and provincial media
     
    How do you know that? Are there studies documenting this is a widespread term in German media? Because I can't recall ever having read it, certainly not in the sense that it was claimed the extermination camps were somehow under Polish control. If the term is used at all, in most cases it will be due to thoughtlessness, not deliberate obfuscation, and merely in a geographical sense.
    Granted, the Our mothers, our fathers tv series was pretty questionable in some parts and Polish protests were justifed. But there is no organized German campaign to shift responsibility for the Holocaust onto Poland. This exists only in the imagination of Polish right-wingers.

    Germany has not paid reparations even for that, though between 1952 and 2017 it paid so many billions in Deutsche marks and euros in so many reparations agreements with the State of Israel and Jewish Holocaust survivors,

     

    Yes, but Israel didn't get one quarter of pre-war German territory, plus the satisfaction of taking revenge by ethnically cleansing a few million Germans. Bit one-sided to leave this "detail" unmentioned.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-new-polish-law-an-attempt-to-whitewash-its-citizens-roles-in-the-holocaust/

    In 1956, a group of former Nazis working as West German intelligence agents coined terminology that arguably became the most viral — and longest lasting — propaganda born out of the former Hitler regime: “Polish death camps.”

    Agency 114, filled with German former members of the Gestapo, SS and SD, was headed by former Nazis Secret Field Police (GFP) sergeant Alfred Benzinger, who is credited with the phrase.

    Benzinger’s goal? To change public discourse and shift the blame for the Holocaust from Germans and Germany to Poland, where most of the Nazi regime’s mass extermination camps were located. And by the time of Benzinger’s propaganda attack, Poland was in the throes of such domestic turmoil that the wordage was hardly a priority.

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    To change public discourse and shift the blame for the Holocaust from Germans and Germany to Poland,
     
    "The" holocaust itself seems to me to be an attempt to change public discourse and shift the blame for the world wars from the "one world" financiers of the wars onto their main victim, Germany and the Germans.

    ..., is there any man here or any woman, let me say is there any child here, who does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry…and the reason why some nations went into the war against Germany was that they thought Germany would get the commercial advantage of them. The seed of the jealousy, the seed of the deep-seated hatred was hot, successful commercial and industrial rivalry…

    This war, in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.
    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365
     

    [Lloyd George] said, “ The truth is that we have got our way. We have got most of the things we set out to get. If you had told the British people twelve months ago that they would have secured what they have, they would have laughed you to scorn. The German Navy has been handed over; the German mercantile shipping has been handed over, and the German colonies have been given up. One of our chief trade competitors has been most seriously crippled and our Allies are about to become her biggest creditors.That is no small achievement. In addition, we have destroyed the menace to our Indian possessions.”

    -David Lloyd George, as quoted in LORD RIDDELL’S INTIMATE DIARY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE AND AFTER , 1918—1923, p 42 (diary entry of 30 March 1919).

    https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.189747/2015.189747.Lord-Riddells-Intimate-Diary-Of-The-Peace-Conference-And-After_djvu.txt

     

    For those who may want to whine that the comment is off topic, WW2 was little more than an extension of WW1 which Churchill himself admitted in a rare moment of lucidity and truthfulness.
    , @German_reader

    To change public discourse and shift the blame for the Holocaust from Germans and Germany to Poland
     
    If that ever happened, those ex-Nazis weren't very successful. Certainly not in Germany.
    The more likely explanation is quite simply that a lot of Jews have a negative perception of Poland, for whatever reason. This has been known for a long time (e.g. even back in the 1970s Claude Lanzmann's Shoah was criticized for its depiction of supposedly antisemitic Polish peasants) and is hardly news. Blaming it on some German conspiracy is just the usual paranoid nonsense which unfortunately seems to be widespread among the Polish right.
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  • @Tyrion 2
    The majority of organised Jewry is Israel and Israel has been a clear friend of the European right for all of my living memory.

    Depending on which right wing political groups.

    When it comes to the elites:

    Some of the Populists and National Conservatives have Zionist allies.
    Some do NOT

    Historically Catholic parties werent Zionist friendly. May have changed in the 1-3 decades, because US/UK Intellgience agencies got more power in powerful organizations like Le Cercle. This lead to introducing Neocons into original Catholic secret organizations.

    Whent it comes to the people:

    Most Continental Europeans right wings (populists, nationalists, etc) are not fans of Jews or Zionism.

    Compared to the USA

    The Ring wing elites are heavily with Jews/Zionists.
    And most Republicans support Isreal, more than any other nation.

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  • @DESERT FOX
    The holocaust involved more than the jews, there were many other races and religions that were sent to death in the camps, and all of these are small in comparison the what the communist jews in Russia did to the Russian people, an estimated 50 to 60 million were killed from 1917 to 1953.

    The holocaust involved more than the jews, there were many other races and religions that were sent to death in the camps,

    Agreed. Actually the Jews were a minority of those killed.

    , and all of these are small in comparison the what the communist jews in Russia did to the Russian people, an estimated 50 to 60 million were killed from 1917 to 1953.

    Completely disagree. Those figures outdated and disproven. Most of those estimates were made before known files were realeased. Some of those estimates were made decades ago.

    Victims killed by Stalin included Russians but also large amounts of nonRussians.

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    @polskijoe
    It's useless to argue with religious fanatics, and so you'll not succeed in convincing @desert fox or the Hitler-was-cool crazies trolling here. You can no more teach them the facts as to exactly who murdered the 30-40 million Russians as you can about the Holodomor.

    "The Jews" murdered millions of Ukrainians, they'll continue proclaiming to their dying day, even though already in 2010, a high court in Kiev -- and that's perhaps the least philosemitic city in Europe -- decreed that the blame for the Holodomor rests with one Georgian, two Russians, two Jews, one Pole and one Ukrainian. http://memorialholodomor.org.ua/eng/holodomor/genocide/court-order.

    Likewise, if you mention that Stalin, Lenin, Beria, Yezhov, Blokhin, Dherzhinsky etc. etc. were not Jews, they'll pull out something written by a similarly deranged mind, arguing that they were.
    It's useless. I just wish they stopped trolling here and went to their IHR, Faurisson, Duke & Co. -- a friendly environment for them that I would not be as uncivil as invading.
    , @DESERT FOX
    These figures of 50 to 60 million are from Solzhentsyns book The Gulag Archipelago and Robert Conquests book Harvest of Sorrow, and others. The Jews were the vast majority of the communists in the Soviet aka communist government and ran the slaughter houses known as the Cheka, etc., these figures are not an exaggeration , and in fact may be on the low side.

    If the Zionists take our guns away we will see similar events right here in River City.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    It wouldn’t surprise me that Stalin’s death tolls are exaggerated, but by comparison Hitler’s are pure fabrication.
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  • @Thales the Milesian
    The 2 nations that suffered the most at the hands of the Nazis were Poland and Byelorussia (Balarus).

    Quite true, percentage wise during WW2:

    Belarus lost 22% of citizens
    Poland lost 16% of citizens
    Ukraine lost 16% citizens
    Russia lost 13% of citizens
    Baltic countries lost 12% citizens.

    Poland, Belarus, Russia 9/10 were caused by Nazi homos.
    Ukraine and Baltics is more complicated. But for Ukraine Im guessing 7/10 caused by Nazis
    and Baltics, 5/10? (someone with more knowledge on Ukraine and Baltics can correct me).

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    Germany, including those who died after WWII, 11 million, about 25%;
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  • @Beckow
    What Poland did in 1938 after Munich to Czechoslovakia was identical to what Nazi Germany did. A multi-ethnic territory that legally belonged to a neighbouring country was occupied by Poland.

    The same is true about the Soviet Union's annexation of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus in 1939. They occupied areas that were inhabited mostly by Ukrainians and Belorussians. And also after Germany attacked Poland. If Poland did it, why shouldn't others do it to Poland?

    Different nations, different scale, but exactly the same principle - 'protect people of your nationality' living in neighbouring countries.

    The fact that Poland did the same thing to Czechoslovakia undermines Polish claims to some martyr purity. Would you stop with the preachy pontificating about Poland always being 'just a victim'? (And Wiki as a source? Right, I am sure the Polish version is really 'nuanced'.)

    Doesnt undermine nothing.

    How many Czechoslovaks were killed by Poles? How many cities were flattened?

    vs

    How many Poles were killed by Nazi homos? How many cities were flattened.

    *Poland is not innocent definetly, but to equate these type of things is nonsense*

    People like to also say Poland “collaberated with Nazis” because of some non aggression pact.

    What matters is alliances and mass murdering.

    (During WW2 and pre times there were many intersecting Non Aggrsesion Pacts between many parties).

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  • Thanks for the article. Europeans (and even more so Americans) need to be informed,

    that the Jews are NOT innoccent either. They also participated with Nazism and Communism.

    I am not gonna blame all Jews, but organized Jewry is irrational, annoying, and quite frankly mad.

    So why are there arguments over this law? Do Jews want to keep the monopoly of the genocide or Holocaust to themselves? What does a name change bother them?

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    The majority of organised Jewry is Israel and Israel has been a clear friend of the European right for all of my living memory.
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  • Unless there is a late surge for Communist Party candidate Pavel Grudinin, who is running second with 7 percent, Vladimir Putin will be re-elected president of Russia for another six years on March 18. Then we must decide whether to continue on course into a second Cold War, or engage Russia, as every president sought...
  • @The Alarmist

    "Russia wasn’t going to lose the Sevastopol base, but when Crimea is returned to its rightful owners, they will lose it, as they deserve."
     
    Who might the rightful owners be? The Ukranians, the Turks from whom Russia took the place a couple hundred years ago, or should we go back to the Scythians?

    All those plus more:
    The Greeks had colonies, the Romans, Goths, and various Turkics (Tatars, Khazars). East Europe was had tons of groups moving, settling, and so on.

    In modern terms:
    The Russians (1750s+) have larger claims to it than the Ukrainians (1950s).

    I see little evidence of influence the early Rus had that much south. Maybe some bickering with Khazars. (here I may be wrong).

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  • @for-the-record
    He also rejected the Baruch Plan (I think).

    The Morgenthau Plan? If so, this is not certain by any means.

    "The plan was designed to completely destroy the German economy, enslave millions of her citizens, and exterminate as many as 20 million people": John Dietrich, who served six years in the Defense Intelligence Agency, takes a hard, revisionist look at American policy toward Germany after WWII in The Morgenthau Plan: Soviet Influence on American Postwar Policy. Charting its origins, development and brief implementation, the author argues that the secretary of the treasury's plan for the demilitarization of Germany "thoroughly reflected" Roosevelt's opinions on postwar strategy (and that the president may have bribed Churchill to sign off on it); that the Soviet Union was the plan's sole beneficiary; and that the plan had far greater effects than anyone involved cared to admit.

    [from "Publishers Weekly"]
     
    According to the author the plan was largely formulated by Morgenthau's aide Harry Dexter White, who many (including obviously the author) believe was a Soviet agent.

    Those are two different plans.

    Morgenthau = plan for Germany to be split and stop all its arms production (or thereabouts)
    Baruch plan = plan for “world government” by Baruch and Lilenthal. It relates to convergence.

    Stalin reject it because of course it had too much Jewish influence, and it was pro American.

    Perhaps one of the reasons the Cold War started.

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  • The United States has launched a three-pronged offensive on Russia. First, it's attacking Russia's economy via sanctions and oil-price manipulation. Second, it's increasing the threats to Russia's national security by arming and training militant proxies in Syria and Ukraine, and by encircling Russia with NATO forces and missile systems. And, third, it's conducting a massive...
  • Dont forget the Japanese-Russian war. Same guy funded that, and then the Bolsheviks.

    The US (Schiff send tons of money to Bolsheviks), later on the side of Whites?
    And Germany also send trucks and people to Russia.

    (perhaps it was different factions aiding each side, Tory/Imperialists, Fabian Socialists, Other Socialists?).

    And the UK played a role with the first revolution (Kerensky was a Freemason or Rosicrucian if I remember).

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  • There is a popular point of view in some of Russia’s political circles, especially among those who profess monarchist views and cling to a famous meme of 1913 Tsarist Russia development statistics, that WW I was started by Germany to forestall Russia’s industrial development which would inevitably challenge Germany’s plans on domination of Europe. A...
  • @AP

    Do not forget that Germany made the first declarations of war. It declared war against Russia on the 1st of August 1914 and the next day invades Luxemburg.
     
    It declared war first, after Russia had mobilized and refused to turn back its mobilization. Germany would not and should not have waited until huge masses of Russian troops had actually crossed its border before declaring war.

    The sad events of the 20th century in some ways can be seen as a tragic, Old Testament style story of sin and brutal retribution. Serbia committed regicide, and lost 25% of its population in the ensuing war. Nicholas II, a decent but foolish man, supported the regicidal regime and was himself murdered, along with his family. The peoples of the Russian Empire didn't stop that crime, and suffered the millions dead under Bolshevism. Wilhelm sent Lenin to Russia and lost his own throne. The peoples of Central Europe abandoned the Habsburgs and suffered decades of Nazism, Communism and war. Such was the sad fate of the former Holy Alliance.

    Final comment for now…

    Lets say Russia no help Serbia.

    The Habsburgs were multiethnic country.
    At the same some sort of a Slavic movement was occuring.

    Maybe Habsburg empire would have disintegrated, with new Slavic countries
    and less casualties?

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  • @Randal
    An excellent and very useful piece, thanks, even if I don't agree with all of it. Certainly many good and important points are made. I would share most of Anatoly Karlin's points above, both in terms of points of agreement and disagreement.

    But when it comes down to the big picture, I think focussing on technologies and doctrines and even crystallised military capabilities is a mistake if you are trying to see long term trends. Such things come and go, and are always in any event shrouded in uncertainty and ignorance. Nobody except a very few (and they aren't talking) really knows what our own side has, and even they don't really know what the other side has, and neither side really knows how their own systems will perform, or how each side's systems will interact in the crucible of war.

    If we are going to speculate about medium term power trends, then we need to look at the underlying basics, which for military power are economic strength (for which the best, albeit imperfect, measure we have is gdp using ppp) and population. Here are the relevant figures:

    Share of world gdp, ppp:

    US
    2020 14.878%
    2015 15.809%
    2010 16.846%
    2000 20.76%

    China
    2020 19.351%
    2015 17.082%
    2010 13.822%
    2000 7.389%


    Russia
    2020 2.836%
    2015 3.275%
    2010 3.641%
    2000 3.294%

    Source IMF per economywatch.com

    Population (2017):

    China: 1,388,232,693

    US: 326,474,013

    Russia: 143,375,006

    These are the basic sinews of world power, at least as far as fully developed countries are concerned (which Russia and the US certainly are, and China nowadays largely is).

    When relative economic strength is changing, military power lags by decades because many of the systems, technologies and institutions can only be built on such timescales. That is why China's military capabilities are so far behind their current economic status. It is also why it is all but certain that China's relative military strength will continue to increase dramatically, relative to all rivals, for decades to come.

    To compare with past world power levels, when the US dominated and the Soviet Union was its rival in the mid-C20th (1950), the US accounted for 27.3% of world gdp, and the Soviet Union had around a third of that, with Britain in third place. In 1913 just before the European powers and Britain committed their suicide by world war, the US accounted for 18.9% of world gdp, with the British Empire just behind and Germany and Russia on about half as much each, but the US was in the position of China today with its relative military power lagging behind its growing economic strength (in 1870 the US share of world gdp had been less than half that of the British Empire).

    The trend of the past decades has been for a steady decline of the US's share of world gdp from its 1950 peak of 27% to only 16% today. There's no reason to expect that trend to halt, so it is just a matter of time before the military balance shifts. In the past, this would likely have been uncovered by a catastrophic military defeat at the hands of a rising power, and that might yet happen, but we now live in the dubious shade of the nuclear peace and so things might be different.

    The figures however make it perfectly clear that the only plausible peer rival to the US in the medium term is China, and not Russia, regardless of current military capabilities.

    Before the Western powers looted China and India,
    the two nations were the largest economies in the world.
    It took around 6-8 nations to intervene there

    China and India used to make 25 and 20 percent of the worlds economy.

    (going from memory, so might be off).

    Also one correct the Russian population is 146.5 million (with Crimea and immigration afaik).

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    Then Britain made industrial workers richer than peasants.
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  • @iffen
    The Red Army did export the revolution, as any Polish nationalist will bitterly point out to you

    Really? They exported a revolution? It's interesting that someone thinks that this is possible.

    They tried to. Linking Russia and Germany commies. I guess it failed.

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    Wouldn't the acknowledgement that it was the time honored practice of a great power or empire installing a puppet ruling elite in a buffer state pretty much cover it?
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  • @Anonymous
    Russia spent almost 5.4% of GDP on military spending. The US last year spent 3.3% and with Trump's proposed increase this number will increase by a few decimal points.

    Russia is a middle income country while the US is a rich country, in the top 10 of GDP per capita. If oil prices don't substantially improve and Russia continues to spend the way it does on the military it will simply go broke.

    Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (Russia is between Mexico and Suriname)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

    You need to use purchasing power for all those measures.

    the Russians have “diversived” their economy in recent times.
    they have little debt, actualy increasing proven gold reserves,

    the US is rich. by some measures yes.
    not with 19 trillion debt. 50 million foodstamps.

    US society is more divided than the Russians.

    Russia isnt using USSR match the military spending,
    but rather focusing on advanced tech, and finding holes in the US system.

    While the US is a superpower, the Russians are still a power and will likely remain.

    Conventional, space, nukes, enough to cause major damage to any country or the world.

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  • @Thorfinnsson


    It’s not quite fair to portray Stalin imposing Communism on unwilling Europe. It wasn’t quite so unwilling as that.
     
    It's perfectly fair.

    Do you suppose communists would've one free and fair elections in Poland? You know, the country Stalin divided with the H-man in 1939?

    How about in the Baltic states, which Stalin annexed in 1940 after agreement with the H-man?

    The communists did decently in Czechoslovakian elections, but they weren't able to form a government on their own. Unwisely the other parties let the communists have the interior ministry, and then the communists overthrew the government with the support of the USSR.

    In the wake of WWII, the Communist ideas and the USSR itself enjoyed high prestige among a significant portion of Europeans. France and Italy had huge and popular Communist parties. Italian Communist Party came close to gaining power and it required shenanigans by CIA to prevent it from doing so. In France, the whole political system was designed around the need to prevent the Communists from winning the elections (now the same techniques are used against National Front.)
     
    Sure. Everybody loves a winner, and for that matter socialist ideas had been popular in the working classes of Europe for a century by then.

    When the H-man was ascendant in Europe little knock off nazi parties started appearing everywhere. Arrow Cross in Hungary, Iron Guard in Rumania, etc. Even America had one.


    Yugoslav and Albanian Communists came to power with little to no support from USSR (and indeed Tito soon turned hostile to Stalin.) Moscow withdrew all support from the Greek Communists, and yet it took years of bloody civil war to suppress them.
     
    Does this mean Stalin wasn't exporting revolution? He was following his percentages agreement with Churchill.

    At the same time he wasn't supporting one group of communists he'd support another group--for instance the Chicoms did get his support (though he wisely hedged his position).

    Stalin was much more sophisticated than Trotsky and another opponents of the socialism in one country model as he realized that he simply couldn't attack on all fronts at all times. That would overextend the USSR's resources and provoke a dangerous response from the West. Which is what actually happened after the Berlin Blockade--NATO was formed in 1949.

    It's likely that his thinking here was influenced by the brief Western intervention in the Russian civil war and the Polish-Soviet War.


    And so on. Now, of course, everyone pretends that only the evil Russkies are to blame and domestic Communist movements did not exist.
     
    It was a long time ago. The right however was always acutely aware of how extremely dangerous communists are.

    Keep in mind that Stalin changed over time,
    and he wasnt exactly a world revolution type. He removed almost all those types around the Purges (where top military, Poles in Russia, and others were killed). Although eventually the Doctors Plot got him. He also rejected the Baruch Plan (I think).

    He became sort of a quasi national socialist right before WW2 (not Nazism btw).

    He certainly was a mass criminal (and in a way saved his country). Though I doubt he wanted to reach Portugal or UK.

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    He also rejected the Baruch Plan (I think).

    The Morgenthau Plan? If so, this is not certain by any means.

    "The plan was designed to completely destroy the German economy, enslave millions of her citizens, and exterminate as many as 20 million people": John Dietrich, who served six years in the Defense Intelligence Agency, takes a hard, revisionist look at American policy toward Germany after WWII in The Morgenthau Plan: Soviet Influence on American Postwar Policy. Charting its origins, development and brief implementation, the author argues that the secretary of the treasury's plan for the demilitarization of Germany "thoroughly reflected" Roosevelt's opinions on postwar strategy (and that the president may have bribed Churchill to sign off on it); that the Soviet Union was the plan's sole beneficiary; and that the plan had far greater effects than anyone involved cared to admit.

    [from "Publishers Weekly"]
     
    According to the author the plan was largely formulated by Morgenthau's aide Harry Dexter White, who many (including obviously the author) believe was a Soviet agent.
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  • Unless there is a late surge for Communist Party candidate Pavel Grudinin, who is running second with 7 percent, Vladimir Putin will be re-elected president of Russia for another six years on March 18. Then we must decide whether to continue on course into a second Cold War, or engage Russia, as every president sought...
  • Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, we will not get over it for the following reasons:

    1. The military industrial complex needs an enemy to keep Western Europe in line. The Russians serve this role as Boogeyman.

    2. The LA-NYC-DC media axis has a strong hatred of Russians because they are White and opposed to gays; never mind the fact that the public at large could care less. The axis controls the megaphone, so Russiophobia it is.

    3. Russiophobia is the means by which these Deep State traitors and axis allies are attempting to overthrow our elected president. Not a single day has gone by that I haven’t seen some BS Russia gate crap from these late night propaganda shows or the controlled media. Russiophobia is literally the only thing they have going because their immigration and trade policies are unpopular.

    4. Money. Lots of cash to be made in weapon sales from a new Cold War. Since the Chinese are Chinese, a Cold War with them would be ‘racist’ but since Russia is white…

    5. The Israel lobby has their sights set on Iran and Russia stands in the way. Thus, the lobby fiercely opposes Putin.

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    • Replies: @restless94110
    Very good collection of Buchanan's erros and omissions, but you missed one:

    Neither Putin nor Franklin Roosevelt were autocrats. They were (or are about to be) elected by their people 4 times. They were and are very popular leaders.

    The Constitutional Amendment limiting a President to 2 terms should have never been passed and should be repealed (or if not, then add all of Congress to that 2 term limit nonsense).

    The only reason for a 2-term limit was hatred of Roosevelt by idiots like Buchanan, and the so-called "tradition" of Presidents only staying or lasting for 2 terms.

    Both reasons are obvious poppycock. Buchanan and his ilk never complain about the 10 terms of many Senators and House members. Yet a beloved and popular President is somehow an autocrat?

    What a moronic smear. Mirriam-Webster's definition of autocrat is: a person (such as a monarch) ruling with unlimited authority; one who has undisputed influence or power.

    FDR like Putin did not have unlimited power, neither did(do) either have undispouted power or influence.

    You are dead wrong about both Presidents, Pat. Shame on you, you know that you know better.
    , @Anon
    Buchanan needs to address the Jewish Power directly.

    WE are not behind anti-Russianism.

    If Jews were call a halt to anti-Russianism, everyone else would follow suit since most of the goys inside the Beltway are shabbos cucks.
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  • Good article.

    But if the US goes after China,
    Russia will probably side with China.
    The US did backstab Russia a couple times.

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  • It is strange: Jews have been disliked everywhere and in all times. The dislike appears in odd places. I was astonished to find that my Nepalese trekking guides were intensely hostile to Jews. They said that Jews (actually Israelis in most cases I think, but the Nepalese do not seem to make the distinction) were...
  • @Wally
    BTW, you got crushed in this thread: http://www.unz.com/article/the-people-who-were-burned-to-ashes-on-ash-wednesday/#comments
    said:
    "Raul Hilberg demonstrated by studying railway transports that people were sent to these places and we know that very few came out alive form these places. Millions of Jews can’t be accounted for."

    Yawn. Transport records simply indicate transport.
    It's most telling that the required train outbound records have disappeared. Ah.

    And do prove that Jews "can’t be accounted for." We're waiting. Rules of logic & jurisdiction state that the onus is upon the accuser.

    If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered, then why do they ask such dumb questions like "what happened to them then?
    After all, Jews like you say '6M Jews & 5M others' went to huge mass graves, Jews like you claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews like you can show us nothing of the kind.
    see:
    'J. Graf and the illogical canard: 'Where did Jews go then?' / & more'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.
    www.codoh.com

    Wally, poor simpleton Wally has ideations of grandeur. You were crushed, you poor little simpleton. Remember 300ppm of HCN in 1h is fatal. This fact alone renders all work of Rudolf totally useless to the revisionist cause.

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    • Agree: polskijoe
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Do you have any idea who German Rudolf is, utu, Yes or No? Be honest.

    Because you are making yourself look fooling and eroding any minor bit of credibility you might claim.

    Wally is not Rudolf.
    Wally is PR, Rudolf is Product.

    , @Wally
    Ugly Zionist utu clearly is losing it, aka: cognitive dissonance. LOL

    Here's more:

    The Rudolf Report
    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HH-July2017-30secs+DonationPitch.mp4

    New eye opening videos from CODOH:
    Probing the Holocaust, pt. 1
    https://codoh.com/library/document/4056/?lang=en
    and:
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    , @Mulegino1
    300 ppm is not necessarily a lethal dose- it was the dose considered to be potentially lethal in industrial safety standards. There are clinical accounts to exposure to much higher levels- 500 ppm for up to 20 minutes with the patient fully recovering.

    Besides, according to the so-called eyewitnesses, everyone was dead within 10- 15 minutes, so the ppm must- according to this narrative, have been much higher. Of course, the methods described by the aforementioned eyewitnesses- that the Germans knocked holes in the roof of the morgue and poured the Zyklon-B onto the floor/or lowered them in a basket through narrow "Kula" columns made out of wire mesh (which would have been destroyed by the weight of the bodies pressing in upon them) is ridiculous. Zyklon-B was not applied in this manner. The commercially available pesticide was, for the sake of safety, designed to release its effective ingredient (HCN) slowly, over periods of many hours- most commonly 24 hours, after which the dwelling or space had to be completely ventilated over a similarly lengthy. The technical specifications for its use called for the pellets to be spread over the floor area of the dwelling to be fumigated in THIN layers. It is almost certain that the manner of its use as claimed by those eyewitnesses would have rendered it harmless- it would not have released its poison at all. And the ventilation of the "gas chamber" could not even have started before the eyewitnesses' "2,000 bodies" were removed, as they would totally impede the air outlets. The pellets from the canister would continue to release the gas long after everyone was dead. There is no question that the levels of iron cyanide traces would be at the very least close to those of the delousing chambers. (And why would the Germans use such stupid and primitive methods when they had state of the art delousing technology at their disposal?)

    Rudolf found levels of up to 13,000 ppm in the delousing chambers, which had powerful hot air blowers, and powerful circulation and ventilation fans. There were no traces of iron cyanide found in the crematory morgues. As Rudolf points out, the greater humidity inside the "gas chambers" , coupled with a higher level of alkalinity in the masonry, would have facilitated the absorption of the HCN and its bonding with the iron in the bricks.

    Of course, the chemical question is only one in a number of fatal blows to this fable. The real problematic issues for the official narrative with respect to Auschwitz-Birkenau are the impossible logistics of the alleged "mass gassings." Herding 2000 plus people into a 210 square meter chamber, gassing them to death, fully ventilating the chamber, removing the bodies through a single ordinary door one at a time, sending them upstairs to the crematory with one single hand-pulley operated elevator, cremating the bodies using the few dozens of functioning crematory retorts with a one hour per body capacity and need for periodic maintenance and cooling could not be done within a week, let alone a few hours or a single day. The narrative simply will not stand up to simple scrutiny.
    , @Wally
    Hardly.
    You mean your fraudulent and irrelevant citation of '300ppm of HCN in 1hr', from a completely unverified source .... from a 100 years ago? LOL

    We're not talking about 1 guy in lab, we're talking about an alleged 2000 Jews per batch in a large room supposedly using a slow emitting HCN source, Zyklon-B , which is said to have killed everyone in mere minutes.
    LOL.
    You lose again.
    Germar Rudolf & I howled in laughter at you.

    It's all there:
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-people-who-were-burned-to-ashes-on-ash-wednesday/#comments

    It gets even worse for you, for a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:
    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    www.codoh.com

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  • @Anon
    Do you even bother to read the links you post? Of seven or so links provided at CODOH above, only two discuss the people involved to any extent.

    He likes to make up numbers and copy and paste things repeatedly.
    The majority of his posts are about Holocaust and codoh.

    Sometimes 5 times in one topic.

    He has no intention to change his mind. He just wants to convert people to his cult.

    Btw its not 6 million Jews and 5 million others. (11 million)

    but rather 17 million minimum. Most of them Slavs.

    of course he denies it and says “there is no evidence”.

    If you dont agree with the bs apparently it makes you a Zionist.

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    Wally’s antics aside, I see that Jews are not the only people who are completely delusional about WW2. You seem to believe that any Pole or Russian who died during the war, of whatever cause, was “murdered” by the Germans. That’s just lunacy.
    , @Wally
    So, you mean the information that I post which you cannot refute, instead you try the childish tactic of name calling.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

    That's a lot of people, so show us the massive human remains that are allegedly known.

    You cannot, you're living a lie.

    www.codoh.com
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  • "We got China wrong. Now what?" ran the headline over the column in The Washington Post. "Remember how American engagement with China was going to make that communist backwater more like the democratic, capitalist West?" asked Charles Lane in his opening sentence. America's elites believed that economic engagement and the opening of U.S. markets would...
  • @kartheek
    "It has been estimated at 600,000 people died at the hands of the Stalin-led Soviet government during the Purge"--wiki
    "The threat of war heightened Stalin's perception of marginal and politically suspect populations as the potential source of an uprising in case of invasion"--wiki

    first stalin declared his policy-"communism in one state "- by 1928.still he has to fear war .then there is the war in spain in 1936 and west must have been supporting General Franco.Italy invaded Ethiopia in 1936.

    Then he is taking on internal dissidents .we all know how Russia was invaded by other countries and supported civil war inside Russia

    second Stalin had great success with 1st five year plan.(1928-1933).he must be popular.

    this holodoor in ukraine is stalin's policy to exterinate ukranians is not correct because 1.volga region also had famine at that time .2.Kiev may be like the third city in the soviet union after Moscow & St.Petersburg in those days

    west always loved Hitler until he invaded poland not because Jews are being killed.Queen Elizabeth is photographed saluting like Nazis in 1930's. (a counterfactual would be nobody would have bothered if hitler only killed jews and not invaded poland)

    Last comment. Of course the West supported Hitler for quite some time. So did the Zionists.

    Neonazis, Holocaust deniers, and Hitler worshippers like to bark about Soviet famine (which included not just Ukrainians btw),

    but they ignore famine dead caused by Hitler while that moron invaded Slavic lands.
    thats another 5 million dead innocent victims.

    Hitler killed more than Stalin. Period.

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    but they ignore famine dead caused by Hitler while that moron invaded Slavic lands.

     
    the atrocities committed by the Nazis against the Slavs are well documented.

    If there was one thing I deplore about Hitler and the Nazis, it was their racial arrogance. Were it not for their hubris, perhaps some of those horrors might have been avoided.

    But the reason so many are fascinated by Hitler and the Nazis today, is because they're (understandably) alarmed at the all-pervasive and nefarious power of the international Jew$.

    Whose power is threatening the very planet we all live on, as it demands and demands and demands...

    ...total fealty to Israel in all things, no matter how egregious or foul.

    It demands Europe and N. America and Western civilization commit collective suicide.

    It rails against Putin because he wrested his nation from their Satanic fangs,

    and it threatens every0ne everywhere unless they bow to its and bray their submission to this global fiend

    >><<

    That is why Hitler and the Nazis are sometimes (wrongly) revered, because at least they were willing to take on the Fiend and fight it, whereas when we look at the state of our leaders today, they all seem to be licking the ball-sack of the Zionist Jewish criminal$ and caressing the wall with such reverence.

    You wouldn't see Hitler putting on the beanie and reverentially stroking the wall, would you?

    and then for irony, watch how the ((PTB)) start calling Poles all Nazis for refusing the 'refugees' and mocking the holy Holocaust. Just like they call Russia's leader, who certainly hates Nazis as much as any Slav, "Hitler', for failing to lick their ball-sack like the Western leaders all do.

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  • @jacques sheete

    If uncle Joe killed 1000 times more people than Hitler did, explain this paradox:
     
    What paradox? Reread what he wrote...

    Recall. Stalin was a murderous tyrant unrivaled in history whose victims in 1939 were 1,000 times those of Adolf Hitler,
     
    He said, "in 1939." 1939, get it! Does that even need to be explained? Arrrrggghhh!!!

    Hitler killed 6 million Jews and 6 million non-Jews, total 12 million.
     
    You want a paradox? How did he kill 6 million Jews when there never were that many Jews under his control, and he didn't kill every one under his control.

    Evidence.: Note from a Jewish source.


    Where do they get 6 million?

    “Allowing for a maximum of 100,000 who succeeded in emigrating from Europe, this would bring the total number of Jews under the direct rule of Nazi Germany to about 3,200,000.

    Distribution of the Jewish Population of Europe 1933-. 1940," prepared by Mr. Moses Moskowitz
    AMERICAN JEWISH YEAR BOOK 1941-1942, page 662

    http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1941_1942_9_Statistics.pdf
     

    Them majikal Jews musta bore triplets or more AFTER they were killed!

    Those are interesting fake numbers,

    considering that in Poland and Germany alone there were at least 3-4 million Jews.

    Plus the terroritories of Russia, Belarus, Ukraine. Makes the number larger.

    And also Hungary, Romania, and other places.

    Hitler killed at least 17 million innocent people (very conservative figure).

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  • @jacques sheete

    Hitler killed more than Stalin in a much shorter time.
     
    So what? He was defending himself against regimes that were far bloodier and for a far longer time than he ever could have dreamed of. His enemies were vastly more powerful as well.

    Do you realize that the Reds had been openly preaching permanent world revolution for decades before Hitler came along?

    Hitler was defending nothing. A poor leader especially from 1938 forward, who was used like a tool
    by the Western elites. He made so many mistakes, its a disgrace people think he was a good guy.

    Murdering millions of Slavics thousands of kilometers from home is not defense. Murdering Catholic priests is not defense.
    Hitler didnt even do anything significant against the big Jews.

    All he did was bark, while sending millions of Germans to their deaths in a war they couldnt win.
    Look at the aftermath of Hitlers “awesome” results today.

    Stalin executed all the “world revolution” types before WW2 started.

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  • It is strange: Jews have been disliked everywhere and in all times. The dislike appears in odd places. I was astonished to find that my Nepalese trekking guides were intensely hostile to Jews. They said that Jews (actually Israelis in most cases I think, but the Nepalese do not seem to make the distinction) were...
  • @Wally
    Poor Fred, a dilettante in denial of the obvious.

    "We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, 'Well that cannot be a lie!'. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a 'truth.'"
    - from 'Propaganda', by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays
     
    Under the spell of Zionist propaganda, Freshman Fred embarrassingly refers to the thoroughly debunked Auschwitz. The claims of it are scientifically impossible.
    recommended:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHS-300x127.jpg
    and:
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    www.codoh.com

    The strange thing about “Hitler wasn’t so bad” self-professed defenders of the “White Man” is that they manage to be ignorant of the fact that Hitler murdered not only 6 million Jews but also at least 20 million Slavs — some of the latter in the very same extermination camps…

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    • Agree: polskijoe
    • Disagree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Wally
    "Hitler murdered not only 6 million Jews but also at least 20 million Slavs — some of the latter in the very same extermination camps…"

    Except there is no such proof for either, and you certainly don't have it.
    All just empty Zionist propaganda.

    I also notice you dodged by posted information.


    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
     
    www.codoh.com

    Jews have been pushing their fake '6,000,000 since at least 1823.

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

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  • Two options for Jews are:

    1)Send many more to Israel and fast. Before more damage is done.
    They will still be a threat but maybe less.
    Start with the duel citizens, billionares, and troskyist (neocons and new left).

    2)Scatter them everywhere. Keep their communities tiny. Isnt that part of their religion?

    Not sure which is the better option.

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  • From the New York Times: Time-honored European values like hegira, jihad, polygamy, FGM, arranged cross-cousin marriages, and the niqāb. Sharia Law is who Europeans are. What could be more unifying than letting a million Muslim men march on Europe? That turned out to be short lived. ... Far-right and populist forces appeared to gain more...
  • Not a fan of those Muslim values, but they are just as bad as modern Western values (lbgt, feminism, bombing other nations, etc).

    I would even consider polygamy (1 guy and a couple wives) for those who can manage it,
    to raise birth rates which are tiny in West.

    Though most men have enough with 1 women :)

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  • That's Dnepropetrovsk mayor Boris Filatov, close Kolomoisky acolyte and Maidan hardliner: Well, he's not wrong. This pretty much summarizes the whole affair, with these two comments [1, 2] filling in the rest of the details. There are serious questions over whether she actually did commit suicide, or was "helped" with it - she apparently shared...
  • @Greasy William

    It was by Trump a year ago before even the biggest Trumptards started to understand that he’s not the God Emperor but rather the ZOG Emperor.
     
    Poles gonna Pole. I wouldn't count on many fruit baskets coming your way if I were you.

    Trump is the most pro Zionist president in any recent times.

    Lets face it, hes not a “god”, not an “emperor”. Hes a puppet.

    He has Jews in his family, he got aid/support/money from Jews.

    He works with Chabad Lubovitch. He prefered to side with Israel over even Anglo nations (traditional allies) on the Jerusalem issue.

    There are a bunch of Jewish ZIonist surrounding him and advisers.

    These are just facts.

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    I know that this is a foreign concept to Poles, but somebody can be pro Jewish without being a puppet.

    Trump has basically single handedly saved the Assad regime by ending most of Obama's aid to the Syrian rebels and destroying ISIS in Iraq. Bibi has been screaming bloody murder asking for Trump to intervene with the Russians to stop the Iranian build up in Syria and Trump's response has basically been "talk to the Russians yourself".

    We (the Jews) love Trump but if we were controlling him I can assure you he would be doing a Hell of a lot more for us.
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  • “History is on every occasion the record of that which one age finds worthy of note in another.” ―Jacob Burckhardt What is one to make of “Darkest Hour”? Is it only yet another chance to bathe in nostalgia for the Second World War, and to dredge up an old story, out of which the British...
  • @Wally
    Really? I call BS.
    Your claims are laughable.
    Just because you say so doesn't make it so.

    Other than combat deaths, present your "evidence" for your "slaughtered tens of millions of Slavic people".

    www.codoh.com

    present your claims for millions of Germans killed?
    where at the bodies of Dresden?
    were are those “missing Germans” after the war?
    where is the proof of millions raped Germans?

    sodoh.net

    I can play the same game. There is no reasoning with genocide deniers like you.
    You wont change your mind regardless of any evidence.
    About as good as a Zionist and Shekelgruber.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Military dead lie in known cemeteries throughout Europe, no?

    Re. things like Dresden, the issue does not concern whether or not it happened, but its justification and number of casualties. On the latter point, depending on who you ask, we are talking about an order of 10’s K killed, many of whom were incinerated during the actual bombing. Thus any claims by the German government at the time (who would have cremated remaining corpses as a public health measure) are believable, without having to actually see individual bodies.

    This is to be contrasted with the claims against the Germans in the East, where millions of murders are said to have taken place, with almost all such evidence having been destroyed so that only (usually unreliable) eyewitness testimony remains as an account. This is the official storyline, keep in mind, and unlike the case of Dresden, say, it is simply not believable. (I agree some revisionists go too far in whitewashing real German crimes, but that is a different issue.)
    , @jilles dykstra
    Dresden bodies, burned improvised in fires on pieces of railway.
    , @Wally
    Well, that was easy.

    Your silly dodge is noted, predictable actually.

    Understandable since you have no proof for your claims.

    Bye now.

    www.codoh.com
    , @jilles dykstra
    The raped German girls:
    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    Genocide deniers, denying is about a fact 'the suspect denies to have committed the murder', usually there is a dead body, and death caused by violence.
    There just can be genocide denial if the genocide has been proved.
    Alas, genocide defenders state 'we know a lot we cannot prove'.
    You see this in
    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007
    He never saw a gas chamber, just assumed they were there.
    What he did see were crematoria chimneys.
    As the Auschwitz death number now is one million these crematoria had something to do.
    Why they died, undernourishment, caused by the camp autonomous management, that ate quite well, this also describes Wiesel.
    Most of the others, 75% writes Rassinier, died within six months from undernourishment.
    , @L.K
    You are a dishonest moron pushing idiotic apples x oranges comparisons.

    Btw, here is what the foreign minister of that predominantly "Slavic" country, the Soviet Union, had to say after the Soviet invasion of Poland in Sep. 39;

    Stalin's Foreign Minister, Vyacheslav M. Molotov, stated before the Supreme Soviet on October 31, 1939:
    'A single blow against Poland, first by the Germans, and then by the Red Army, and nothing remained of this misbegotten child of the Versailles Treaty, which owed its existence to the repression of non-Polish nationalities.'

    After being WW2 useful idiot, has Poland learned anything, or will it become the ZUSA's useful idiot against the Russian Federation?

    Time will tell...
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  • @Wally
    "Hitler = Massive Mass Murderer."

    Except he wasn't. There is no proof, only Zionist propaganda.


    “Ach,” he said, “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
    - fake "holocaust historian" Raul Hilberg
     
    www.codoh.com

    blah blah.

    We Slavic are not effected by Zionist propaganda. We dont care about filthy Nazis, or Zionists.

    There is more evidence for Nazi crimes slaughering tens of millions of Slavic people, then “2 milllion” dead Germans after the war. Nazi Germany was the aggressor.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Really? I call BS.
    Your claims are laughable.
    Just because you say so doesn't make it so.

    Other than combat deaths, present your "evidence" for your "slaughtered tens of millions of Slavic people".

    www.codoh.com

    , @L.K
    Hmm... polskiTrolls, such as yourself, actually imitate the filthy Zionists very well.

    The war between Germany and Poland was NOT merely a case of naked German aggression, as you must know, right polskiTroll? I mean, even a lying, chauvinist pig like you, cannot pretend not to know about all the German land stolen at the end of WW1 and given to a recently created Poland, a country created after WW1 with totally inappropriate and unsustainable borders?
    Today, Poland sits on even more stolen German lands.
    Had the stupid Polish junta accepted the fair German proposal for a return of the German Danzig corridor so the country could be reconnected to its East Prussia province, war could have been avoided. Instead, Poland went on to become WW2 useful Idiot.
    Let's take a look at what some prominent figures from the winning side in WW1 had to say about those things:

    Lloyd George, the British Prime Minister, during the Paris negotiations:
    “I tell you once more, we would never have thought of giving to Poland a province that had not been Polish for the last 900 years…
    The proposal of the Polish Commission that we should place 2,100,000 Germans under the control of a people which is of a different religion and which has never proved its capacity for stable self-government throughout its history, must, in my judgment, lead sooner or later to a new war in the East of Europe...” 11)

    “France is not so much concerned with what is important to Poland, rather the French position is determined solely by the aim of weakening Germany.”12)

    “To surround Germany with small states, many of which are composed of peoples that have never governed themselves and that comprise large numbers of Germans who are demanding reunion with their homeland, such plans would be, it seems to me, a breeding ground for the most terrible reason for a future war.” 13)
    “I was as sincere an advocate of Polish independence as any member of the Commission, but I was convinced that to add to Poland populations which would be an alien and hostile element inside its boundaries would be a source of permanent weakness and danger and not of strength to this resurrected State.
    I knew that a time would come when Germany would respond to the cry of its exiled people and restore them to the Fatherland by force of arms.
    For that reason I renewed my pressure in the conference to reject the recommendations which incorporated in Poland towns and territories which were overwhelmingly German by language, race and inclination...” 14)

    Woodrow Wilson’s words of 7 April 1919 also went unheeded:
    “France’s only real interest in Poland was to weaken Germany by giving the Poles areas to which they had no claim.” 15)

    U.S. Secretary of State, Robert Lansing, remarked on 8 May 1919:
    “Do examine the treaty and you will find that whole populations, against their will, were delivered into the power of those who hated them, while their economic resources were snatched away and handed over to others. The result of such directives has to be hatred and bitterness, if not despair. It may take years until these oppressed nations are able to shake off the yoke, but as sure as night follows day, the time will come when they will try to break free. We have a peace-treaty, but it will not bring lasting peace, as it was founded on the quicksand of selfishness.” 16)
     
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  • "We got China wrong. Now what?" ran the headline over the column in The Washington Post. "Remember how American engagement with China was going to make that communist backwater more like the democratic, capitalist West?" asked Charles Lane in his opening sentence. America's elites believed that economic engagement and the opening of U.S. markets would...
  • Recall. Stalin was a murderous tyrant unrivaled in history whose victims in 1939 were 1,000 times those of Adolf Hitler, with whom he eagerly partnered in return for the freedom to rape the Baltic States and bite off half of Poland.

    Hitler killed more than Stalin in a much shorter time. There is no reason to believe 40-66 million figures for Stalin. (and I am antiCommunist btw). Ive read all the studies, Rummel, Solhenitsyn and others who claim those numbers too. Now look up 20 more experts and there numbers are all lower.

    Although yes up to 1939 Stalin had killed far more.

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    Hitler killed more than Stalin in a much shorter time.
     
    How so? Battlefield deaths resulting from operation Barbarossa don't count. Stalin was murdering in peacetime and in wartimea and then again after the war.

    It was Stalin's policy that retreating Soviet troops be machine gunned and shelled per order no. 227 in 1942. Order no. 270 stipulated that Soviet troops who were captured and ever returned to Russia were to be treated as traitors and executed. These policies killed somewhere on the order of 150,000 Russian soldiers.
    , @jacques sheete

    Hitler killed more than Stalin in a much shorter time.
     
    So what? He was defending himself against regimes that were far bloodier and for a far longer time than he ever could have dreamed of. His enemies were vastly more powerful as well.

    Do you realize that the Reds had been openly preaching permanent world revolution for decades before Hitler came along?
    , @myself
    No leader in any Western capital cared an iota about the internal domestic policies in any other country.

    It was not murder that got Hitler (but not Stalin) on the shit-list - it was that Hitler was attempting to violently and abruptly overturn the international order via outright warfare, whereas Stalin had put off the project of global socialist revolution for the future.

    His priority was the Soviet Union, and left it to his successors to foment international revolution - and so was far less threatening.

    If Hitler had confined himself to building a "pure society" in Germany and nowhere else, the worst that the West could have done was to treat him as the media treats Putin today. And we all know the Western media in the end can't do sh*t against Russia.
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  • “History is on every occasion the record of that which one age finds worthy of note in another.” ―Jacob Burckhardt What is one to make of “Darkest Hour”? Is it only yet another chance to bathe in nostalgia for the Second World War, and to dredge up an old story, out of which the British...
  • Hitler = Massive Mass Murderer.
    Churchill = Mass Murderer who in his latter years was weaker. Roosevelt and Stalin had more power.

    Churchill was a 32 or 33nd degree Freemasons (just like Roosevelt).
    He didnt like Catholics.

    In the end he fell to Jewish influence. Just like every US president since at least Wilson.

    What came first Jewish banking in Britain or British Empire? Anyone know?

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    "Hitler = Massive Mass Murderer."

    Except he wasn't. There is no proof, only Zionist propaganda.


    “Ach,” he said, “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
    - fake "holocaust historian" Raul Hilberg
     
    www.codoh.com
    , @R. McM.
    Re: ''What came first Jewish banking in Britain or British Empire? Anyone know?''


    I'd say the British Empire, as usual.

    1199 - ... International bankers decide to back the crusades for the Temple of Solomon, which caused their downfall.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B47d_c-ZOs

    , @ThreeCranes
    Neither.

    What came first was the steam engine and the concomitant development of precision machine metal working. With these as a base, Britain built a mercantile, industrial economy. The capital for early industrialization was generated internally, at times wealthy families even mortgaged their estates to finance their inventor relative during financial squeezes.

    Once the economy became prosperous, the bankers moved in like jackals to a lion kill. Eventually (((they))) take over the nation's central bank and loan themselves money with which they buy all the wealth-producing assets in the nation, hollowing it out and leaving it an empty shell; at which point they move on to their next plum target.

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  • Senator Rubio is feeling blue and philosophical: But Reform Rabbi Ruttenberg, author of the recent Washington Post op-ed about how the DACAites morally require that we be getting Purim on Trump's ass, is not having any of Marco's philosophizing: Reading the bio of Rabbi Ruttenberg, a Religious Studies major at Brown, is exhausting. I had...
  • “The naked expression of anti-gentile animus that motivates Rabbi Ruttenberg would have been considered in bad taste in 1950.”

    Perhaps, but my guess is that it was there and as strong, but hidden very well.

    The concept of ‘Judeo-Christian’ is natural to WASP culture. A ‘culture,’ like an individual, is like a tree: it grows over time into what its ‘genes’ and environment make it.

    WASP culture, while certainly based on pagan northwestern Germanic tribes, was formed by, completed by, determined by, a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. All subsequent Anglophone Protestantism (‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ alike) would be drawn irresistibly into the orbit, eventually becoming as Judaizing as the main source.

    If you know the history of Germanic tribes becoming Arian heretics, which meshed with their paganism, and if you know that Arianism is an anti-Trinitarin umbrella heresy,. and if you know that Jews adore anti-Trinitarianism because they rightly see it is truly anti-Christ, then none of the above will seem anything but obvious.

    Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judiazing heresy. Judaizing heresy always produces politics and culture that are pro-Jewish and that necessarily must despise and war to destroy (to make a virtually permanent lower class) ‘other’ white Christians.

    At some point in the life of even the richest and most arrogant Judaizing culture, its leaders, its mover sand shakers, will begin to realize that somewhere along the path, they have become the Junior partner to Jews. And then they will become most deferential.

    English-speaking Christians using the term ‘Judeo-Christian’ is deference. And increasingly we see Jews treat such people as the idiots they are.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. Mr. archetypal WASP himself, Oliver Cromwell, who would have been happy to slaughter and/or enslave at least 3/4ths of the natives of the British isles, made alliance with Jews, granting them special rights and privileges that the vast majority of British Isles natives did not have and taking Jewish money, so he could continue warring against ‘other’ white Christians.

    That is what WASP culture is, always has been and always will be.

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    Put down the E Michael Jones.
    , @Art Deco
    Crackpot.
    , @ThreeCranes
    "Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judiazing heresy."

    Welllllll, I don't know about that.

    My take on all this is a bit different.

    Let's start with the Shaker motto; "Hands to work, Hearts to God."

    Now I've read that Protestant work ethic stuff and heard people talk about guilt and whatnot and I have pretty good reasons for believing they're all off base.

    Hands to work, hearts to God. You see, we Protestants believe that they are one and the same. Yes.

    A person achieves salvation by putting the very best of himself into his work and in doing so, if he is conscientious and truly applies himself to the Work, then through this dedication his heart is put in the right place. He has conviction too that through his work he is leaving a legacy which, as the material aspect of culture, is a reminder to succeeding generations of their Forefathers' Faith. This is why Protestant Europe and America have been such inventors and builders. It's not God's work; it's ours, and by applying ourselves unstintingly, we purify ourselves in the fire of aspiring towards creating (a Platonic) perfection. We invented the machine tools that create perfect cylinders that ride in perfect bores. Our magnificent, giant turbine blades are sculpted like birds wings and balanced to the parts per million.

    Now Catholics don't believe as I do. They are quite certain that salvation is a gift and is not/cannot be earned by good works alone.

    Protestantism is the modification Catholicism had to undergo to become acceptable to the Spirit of the People of the North just as Catholicism is the modification Judaism had to undergo to become acceptable to the heirs of the Roman Empire.

    , @MarcB.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem. Mr. archetypal WASP himself
     
    Too many on the Alt Right refuse to see their highly visible symbiotic relationship. Anybody who believes the triumph of the Frankfurt School in the US was fueled solely by Jewish animus, hustle and +5 IQ points has magical thinking.
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  • The United Nations, naturally, disapproved. Pope Francis, more enigmatically, protested, too, when President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as the eternal Capital of Israel. By 2019’s end, the Trump administration plans to open the American Embassy in Jerusalem. There's a reason Muslims living in Israel proper—1.5 million of them—don't migrate to the adjacent Palestinian Authority. They're...
  • @Alden
    I’m not Jewish but I’ve Lived in Jewish neighborhoods all my life. The arguing and superiority doesn’t bother me.

    What bothers me is the Jewish creation of school desegregation, affirmative action and whether it’s black criminals, Hispanics, gays transsexuals, always always creating a Jewish black Hispanic gay transsexual whatever they can find to create a coalition against the White goyim.

    If aliens from Venus arrive on earth they will be greeted by American and European Jews wanting a coalition against the White goyim.

    What you refer to is the New Left (created in the 1960s by CIA and Jewish Communists inside the USA, this group was antiStalin, but pro Lenin/Trotsky in culture ways)

    I see three problematic groups in Jews:

    a)New Left (perverts, who hate all of Christian culture)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left

    b)Neocon-NeoZionism (these are very aggressive and dangerous)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Zionism

    c)International Zionism/Liberalism (these are providing money, they are elities)

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  • As the Presidential elections in Russia are drawing near I am amazed to see how much interest this event is generating in spite of the fact that it sure seems to me that this will be an incredibly boring and, frankly, totally useless event. But first, full disclosure: I don't have much faith in the...
  • @Aedib
    Just hot ideas from some forums. Reality is that neither Russia nor Poland are interested on this outcome. AP’s numbers are quite accurate and reliable. Ukraine will exist in the current shape (Current Ukraine = 2013 Ukraine – Crimea - Donbass) for the foreseeable future. Putin isn’t even interested in taking Donbass, so, LNDR will exist in the current “Abkhazia on steroids” state also for the foreseeable future.
    There is a considerable percentage of people on the south and the east that are resentful with the current regime but that people is not interested in taking arms and go to war, Donbassians style. In the end the country reached a metastable equilibrium. I can’t see a big crash and also I can’t see a vigorous growth. A Brezhnevian stagnation is the most likely prognosis.

    Yes. I acknowledged thats APs numbers on ancestry were right, in a second post.

    I would bet the majority of Poles or elites dont want partition of Ukraine.

    As for Donbass, I see it like Putin wants maybe UN involvement? Not sure how that would work (someone explain)…

    I do think Crimea will remain Russian though. That is unlikely to change.

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  • @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Tell you what, even in Western Ukraine there are quite a few sane people. Still, for the rest it would serve them right to get out and join Poland. They apparently forgot that in Polish times storefronts in Galicia and Volhynia carried signs “Dogs and Ukrainians prohibited” or “No entrance with dogs or Ukrainians”. Poles called them bydło (for non-Polish speakers, this literally means cattle), and now we all see why. Unfortunately, I don’t think Putin would let Poland have any spoils: he does not give a hoot about justice, he only plays his geopolitical games (quite successfully, if you ask me). Not to mention that shops and restaurants were full in the 1990s in Russia, when pretty much all honest people struggled. Mercedes and BMW cars appeared in Russia in the same period. Key question is, who was in those shops and restaurants, and who drove all those fancy cars.

    There was apparently a proposition too split Ukraine between Poland and Russia when this new cold war thing started.

    I really wouldnt Bandera types joining part of Poland. While extremists in Ukraine are tiny amount (its same in all Europe), a large portion of West Ukrainians see Bandera positively. So those types can go to hell.

    Just recently a bunch of drunkan Ukrainians and Georgians start beating a guy,
    until another cop shot them in the legs (no target for chest like in US/Canada).
    And thats other whites.

    You can read about Dmowski line if you want and his attitudes. Unfortunetly the Protestant Judaizers (in UK and US) didnt like him.

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    Anon from TN
    Maybe it would be true justice to return Russian, Polish, Hungarian, Slovakian, and Romanian pieces of the monster to their rightful owners and leave “Ukraine” in the borders it had under Khmelnitsky when it joined the Russian Empire (BTW, the initiative was Khmelnitsky’s, Russian tsar thought about it for seven years, and in the end did not want the whole responsibility, so he gathered Veche of prominent citizens to decide). Then Poles would have to deal with Bandera followers and the rest of the Nazi scum of Western Ukraine (Kresy Wschodnie in Polish). Pretty much all the neighbors (except maybe Slovakia) are ready to pounce on the corpse.
    However, there is no such thing as justice in history. My bet is that in the end Putin would be the defender of Ukrainian territorial integrity, if he manages to do it on his terms, which include debt write off (if Russia is saddled with humongous Ukrainian debt, Russian people would hang him). We’ll see soon enough, the monster does not have much lifetime left, no matter what propagandists of the current regime say.
    , @Aedib
    Just hot ideas from some forums. Reality is that neither Russia nor Poland are interested on this outcome. AP’s numbers are quite accurate and reliable. Ukraine will exist in the current shape (Current Ukraine = 2013 Ukraine – Crimea - Donbass) for the foreseeable future. Putin isn’t even interested in taking Donbass, so, LNDR will exist in the current “Abkhazia on steroids” state also for the foreseeable future.
    There is a considerable percentage of people on the south and the east that are resentful with the current regime but that people is not interested in taking arms and go to war, Donbassians style. In the end the country reached a metastable equilibrium. I can’t see a big crash and also I can’t see a vigorous growth. A Brezhnevian stagnation is the most likely prognosis.
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  • So this map has been sitting at the top of /r/MapPorn for the past day, and has been ReTweeted a bunch of times. Of course this is measuring by nominal GDP. Here is how the comparison would look like if you were to measure the Russian economy by PPP-adjusted GDP. Question: Which one should you...
  • @Jon0815

    First it was Italy, then California, Texas, Spain and South Korea. Now the Netherlands and Belgium. What’s next? Sweden? I think that was actually the case back in the late 90s and early 2000s? And IIRC, Finland’s Prime or Foreign Minister compared the size of the Russian economy to Holland as late as 2008 lol.
     
    In 1991, the USSR had the world's 7th largest GDP, just behind the UK, while Russia alone ranked #10, just behind Spain.

    At its post-Soviet low in 1999, Russia ranked #23, just behind Austria, with a GDP of only $195 billion, vs. $700 billion for the Netherlands and Belgium.

    In 2016 Russia was #12, and within a handful of years it will probably surpass South Korea and Canada to reclaim the #10 spot, just behind Italy and Brazil.

    in 1985-1989 USSR had the 2nd biggest GDP in the world.
    lets say 60 percent of that was Russian.

    Today the Russian GDP is around 5th or 6th place right after Germany.

    After the Jews like Adelsons and others stole 1 trillion from USSR states.
    It made the Great Depression in USA seem like nothing.

    (i guess you are using nominal?)

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  • As the Presidential elections in Russia are drawing near I am amazed to see how much interest this event is generating in spite of the fact that it sure seems to me that this will be an incredibly boring and, frankly, totally useless event. But first, full disclosure: I don't have much faith in the...
  • @polskijoe
    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

    You are assuming all Poles are the same. Polish government antiRussian stance is stupid for sure,
    but Poland is not some aggressive beast. The army is tiny. We dont invade countries.

    You seem to have some paranoia that Poles are out to get you. And that Poles were allies of Nazis?
    More Russians fought with Nazis, than Poles did. How do you answer that?

    Poland never officially allied with Nazis and we fought them from 39-45.

    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

    Sure, Ukranians also Slavs. And some Slavs were with Hitler. So what?

    You are assuming all Poles are the same. Polish government antiRussian stance is stupid for sure,
    but Poland is not some aggressive beast.

    Not I’m not, but a drop of honey in barell of shit won’t change much. I see the facts and you did everything to be hated. It’s not us to blame.

    The army is tiny. We dont invade countries.

    Just because you are too weak, in history you did always when you could.

    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

    No and it was not change the fact that Russian and Polish have almost nothing in common not to count history and language. The latter you switched to latin despite it’s looks ugly just to break the link with us. Ok, you did break, why do you a crying now? Go your way and wait when some Iskander will come to your US antimissile base. It was your choice get the consequences with dignity.

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  • @AP

    That guys numbers are questionable.
     
    Not "my" numbers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Population

    the Ukraine figures are probably too big
     
    Take your problem to the Canadian, American, Russian, etc. censuses.

    Was aware it was likely from somewhere else. So I use your numbers as “your provided numbers from elsewhere”. poor language on my part I guess.

    I guess they make sense. for all parties involved.

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  • Are you an anti-Semite? Wonder no longer! Take the poll here: Am I an anti-Semite? The SPLC and RationalWiki both seem to think so. But there are also those who believe I am a hasbara shill, or even Jewish myself. Either way, I don't appear to be a particularly enthusiastic philo/anti-Semitic propagandist - of the...
  • The full spectrum of Jewish haggadah and hasbara at display: From inertial who has never heard about Jewish lobby and Iraq war connection Dimitry who found Israel unnaturally tolerant, via Tyron 2 who says that ethnic networking does not happen and who never heard Jews telling disparaging jokes about goys and Bardon Kaldian who brought the 0-th commandment : Do not blame Jews! straight from the Mt. Sinai.

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  • As the Presidential elections in Russia are drawing near I am amazed to see how much interest this event is generating in spite of the fact that it sure seems to me that this will be an incredibly boring and, frankly, totally useless event. But first, full disclosure: I don't have much faith in the...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    To the best of my knowledge, there are just under 38 million Poles, not 57 million. Claimed number of Ukrainians is even more fantastic. There were 52 million people living in Ukrainian SSR in 1991. Today, based on the consumption of bread + flour, about 22-24 million people physically live in what remains of Ukraine. Of course, there are 5-7 million Ukrainian gastarbeiters in several countries (mostly in Russia and Poland), so the number of citizens is probably 27-31 million, but that’s nowhere near 48 million you claimed. No wonder that Ukrainian authorities are afraid to conduct a census for many years – they know that the results would be shocking. Not to mention that before counting Transcarpathia as Ukraine you should talk to the residents there, especially Rusyns and those with Hungarian and Romanian passports. If I were you, I’d also ask how many millions of residents of Galichina and Volhynia got Polish Card (Karta Polaka), and how this reflects their “patriotism” and pride in the achievements of so-called “revolution of dignity”.
    Don’t have time to check the rest of your numbers. But these clear inaccuracies make them equally suspicious.

    That guys numbers are questionable.

    I see Polish ancestry, the Ukraine figures are probably too big,
    Russian figures range widely.

    Didnt see a distinction between ancestry, ethnicity, vs citizenship.

    In Ukraine there is a significant portion of “Russians or Russian-Ukrainians” (in some way).

    Wiki claims there are 55 million Polish speakers (which I find unlikely). Vast majority of Polish origin in USA dont speak Polish. Probably the same with Canada and Latin America.

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    That guys numbers are questionable.
     
    Not "my" numbers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Population

    the Ukraine figures are probably too big
     
    Take your problem to the Canadian, American, Russian, etc. censuses.
    , @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Of course his numbers are BS: he is a Ukie. Ukies fall into two categories: sane ones and mad primeval nationalists (they call themselves “svidomye”, which now became a swearword in Russia and Eastern Ukraine). He/she/it is in the last category. 80% of what mad Ukies say is BS, the remaining 20% is truth twisted beyond recognition. The best way to deal with them in the media is to ignore them completely (I am guilty of not always following my own advice), whereas when met in person they should be dealt with in the same way as mad dogs. Poles, of all people, know that.
    You are likely right about the Poles in the US (don’t know anything about the Poles in Canada or Latin America). I was in quite a few Polish stores in the US (Polish idea of food is pretty much the same as that of Russians, Ukrainians, and Germans), including a huge Polish supermarket in Chicago, and found that very few Poles actually speak Polish. Most are like me (I am not Polish, but I was born in Lvov (Lwow)): they know about a hundred words, some very polite, some very impolite.
    The distinction between nationality and citizenship is particularly important in Ukraine. It used to be an extremely heterogeneous country, where the majority speaks Russian and some Ukrainian, ~25-30% speaks Ukrainian and some Russian (these are mostly villagers), some (largely in Transcarpathian region) speak mostly Hungarian or Romanian, etc. By Ukrainian I mean literary Ukrainian and several Western Ukrainian dialects (I know first-hand that they are very different, as I speak and read literary Ukrainian and speak the dialect used in Lvov area, where I lived for the first 6 years of my life). If Ukrainian governments (all of them, not only the current one) cared about the country, rather than about lining their pockets, they would have made several languages official (like Switzerland, Singapore, or Belgium), and generally they would have promoted things that unite people, not those that divide them. Too late now: they ran what could have been a country into the ground. Being half-Ukrainian I do resent that.
    Wiki is hardly a reliable source of info: anybody can edit their entries, and there is no quality control.
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  • @Felix Keverich
    I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. There are many problems with the Russian people, but excessive hatred of Poland isn't one of them. lol As a matter of fact the overwhelming sentiment that Sovok types feel towards people of Eastern Europe is not hate, but betrayal.

    Okay. Understandable explaination.
    Btw. I never mentioned hate btw. Most Russians dont hate Poles, like most Poles dont hate Russians.

    There might be distrust, or anger about some points of history. Actually hatred is smaller minority.

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    Most Russians don't care about Poles, and rarely think about them. They see Poland as a small, not very significant nation. To the extent that there is an opinion, it is negative, but overall the attitude is apathy, not antipathy.
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  • OK, so why is the country falling apart? Specifically, why are kids blowing each other away? America has become a source of wonder the world over with its Colulmbines and hundreds and hundreds of dead in Chicago and Baltimore and its burning cities and riots. Other advanced countries don’t do these things. America didn’t either...
  • The answer to this question:

    The New Left was a disease which destroyed the US.
    Many of them were Jewish just like the in the Bolshevik revolution.

    I guess after WW2, the Js got more power.
    The CIA wanted to prevent Stalinist or Communist support,
    so they created some beast of degeneracy.

    In the 1990s this went to a second phase. And now you see the consquences.

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  • @Felix Keverich
    You sound more like a Sovok, than a Russian to me. Stupidity, agression, inability to take criticism are all markers of Sovok mentality.

    How come its usually strong Soviets supporters who dislike other Slavs
    more than average Russian does?

    Is it because of Jewish mentality involved with Bolsheviks and Commies?

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    I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. There are many problems with the Russian people, but excessive hatred of Poland isn't one of them. lol As a matter of fact the overwhelming sentiment that Sovok types feel towards people of Eastern Europe is not hate, but betrayal.
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  • @Sergey Krieger
    How are poles and Ukraine are doing after you are out of the basement? Roaming kanalizaciya ? Populations are in free fall onviously outcome of accepting 30 srebrennikov .Btw, I see you are a good friend of Poles, maybe you should give back Lviv and surroundings and Poland should returns those German lands gifted by so bad Russia back to Germany good friend of all Slavs.

    Populations are in free fall?
    This is happening all Slavic countries. Check the birthrates vs death rates. Low Fertility rates.

    Poland and Ukraine are different. Generally speaking Poland gained after leaving USSR influence.
    Ukraine went the opposite direction.

    During Commie times Poland was not doing well in many areas. Only military and some industry.
    Now its more peaceful.

    Dont take this as antiRussian, because I really am not.

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  • @yurivku

    lol… we Slavics and maybe others all have this characteristic.
     
    BTW we, Slavs, are different. We, for example, did free your country from NAZY, but you now are destroying all monuments created for the memory of that.
    Poland is main and most aggressive US ass-kisser on the East of Europe so of course we see all that and do our conclusions.

    Yes, most of so called "bratushkas" like Bulgaria, Chekoslovakia, Poland, MonteNegro ... did cooperated with Nazy and/or now are doing that with NATO, so don't address our Slavic origins, we are different and real brothers are those who wouldn't betray and that, pity, certainly are not you. The only one left we can respect (with some limitations) is Serbia.
    Getting back to words of Alexander III - "Russia has only two allies - its army and navy", this is still true.

    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

    You are assuming all Poles are the same. Polish government antiRussian stance is stupid for sure,
    but Poland is not some aggressive beast. The army is tiny. We dont invade countries.

    You seem to have some paranoia that Poles are out to get you. And that Poles were allies of Nazis?
    More Russians fought with Nazis, than Poles did. How do you answer that?

    Poland never officially allied with Nazis and we fought them from 39-45.

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    Anon from TN
    You have a point here. In WWII there were Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, and Ukrainian Waffen SS divisions, but no Polish ones. However, Poles did serve Hitler individually, many as volunteers (like Tusk’s grandfather). What’s more, Hitler’s rabid anti-Semitism was in line with the worldview of many Poles (maybe just a bit less so than with the views of Balts and Ukrainians). At least, there are extremely uncomplimentary tales about the behavior of Poles in German-occupied Warsaw during the uprising in Jewish ghetto in 1943.
    , @yurivku

    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

     

    Sure, Ukranians also Slavs. And some Slavs were with Hitler. So what?

    You are assuming all Poles are the same. Polish government antiRussian stance is stupid for sure,
    but Poland is not some aggressive beast.
     
    Not I'm not, but a drop of honey in barell of shit won't change much. I see the facts and you did everything to be hated. It's not us to blame.

    The army is tiny. We dont invade countries.

     

    Just because you are too weak, in history you did always when you could.

    Your views dont change the fact that West Slavs, East Slavs and South Slavs are all Slavic.

     

    No and it was not change the fact that Russian and Polish have almost nothing in common not to count history and language. The latter you switched to latin despite it's looks ugly just to break the link with us. Ok, you did break, why do you a crying now? Go your way and wait when some Iskander will come to your US antimissile base. It was your choice get the consequences with dignity.
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  • Are you an anti-Semite? Wonder no longer! Take the poll here: Am I an anti-Semite? The SPLC and RationalWiki both seem to think so. But there are also those who believe I am a hasbara shill, or even Jewish myself. Either way, I don't appear to be a particularly enthusiastic philo/anti-Semitic propagandist - of the...
  • @Wally
    "after having helped the Nazis genocide them"

    Except there was no 'genocide of Jews', period. Unless you count the other fake ones from 1869.



    Don't be fooled again.
    Facts & science over Zionist propaganda now a religion.

    www.codoh.com

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    You are cmpletely wrong. However, I debated enough with holocaust denials to know that nothing, no amount of evidence, will change their minds, so I will stop at saying that Holocaust did happen.

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    Which evidence ?
    Even Elie Wiesel, in his first book, just asserts that there were gas chambers.
    He never saw them.
    Then the story about how the gassings went exclude any witnesses.
    On top of that, Poliakov writes, based in Neurenberg 'evidence', that the gas chambers were destroyed with explosives at the end of 1944.
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris

    That there is a very good explanation for the deaths, read
    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)
    and
    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962
    Burg describes the jewish camp east of the Bug, near Brest Litovks, with restaurants for the rich.
    Just as Poliakov describes the ghetto in Warsaw, with prices of meals and wine and liquor.

    The camps had self management, what also Wiesel acknowledges.
    This management ate well, who did not belong to the management died in six months time, under nourishment.
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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You forgot to mention that Polish Lithuanian commonwealth engaged Hungary and together attacked Russia. And that was the end of Polish Lithuanian commonwealth.

    Polish Lithuanian commonwealth had division and bad leadership in some segments.
    You had the Ukrainians uprising, Swedish invasion, Russians getting stronger.
    Overstretched, some lunatics in “nobles”.

    Nonetheless it also had some good sides, did well in several fights, and was a power for some time.

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  • As the Presidential elections in Russia are drawing near I am amazed to see how much interest this event is generating in spite of the fact that it sure seems to me that this will be an incredibly boring and, frankly, totally useless event. But first, full disclosure: I don't have much faith in the...
  • @utu

    My view is that Putin is representative of Russian national oligarchy which DOES want to integrate with the western ruling classes but on equal terms.
     
    This how I also see it. For this reason I was always skeptical of those who put hopes in Putin's Russia as a genuine opponent of the Zio-Amercian Empire. Putin actions and in-actions should be understood as playing for time and gaining some leverage for a better position at the negotiating table. They want to sit at the sam table with the Empire while the Empire still sees them as dish to be consumed at this table.

    Maybe some European leadesr might like to improve relations with Russia,

    but… (refering to elites): Anglo countries do not, Countries jammed between Germany and Russia dont. Sweden and Netherlands do not.

    I get the feeling that most of the Western establishment does not want to,
    or can not because of fear or pressure from CIA/US.

    Well you get those groups like Bilderberg, the less known Le Cercle, types who refuse too.

    You get the CFR, Brooking Institute, Chatham House who refuse too.

    They all want to dominate. Not see others as equal partners.

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  • @yurivku
    You are not Russian, as max you are rossianin, please use your true nationality when writing such a russophobic bs.

    lol… we Slavics and maybe others all have this characteristic.

    “You no like my ideas you are not part of my ethnic-nationality.”

    Its actually sad.

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    “You no like my ideas you are not part of my ethnic-nationality.”
     
    We have a lot of experiences of that type of "ideas" the are mainly being representing by Russian Jews.
    Let's go back for so called US experts on Russian matters. My lovely is Masha Gessen

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1307577/thumbs/h-MASHA-GESSEN-RUSSIA-GAY-ACTIVIST-348x516.jpg
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/masha-gessen-in-the-new-yorker-on-white-jurors-bias-against-dzhokhar-tsarnaev/?highlight=Gessen

    They usually are transitional Rossiyane, they are on the way to West, Russophobia is a main thing which they are going to sell in the West. Ok, one more Masha not a big deal, but I'm not gonnal silently listen it.
    This Felix guy just a light copy of her. Even if he was Russian I'd prefer not consider him a relative, but I'm sure he's not.

    Speaking about Russian abortion problems now when in the West all that war, dirty politics, LGBT/faggotry/transgender stuff, criminals in power which while killing civilians a the same time are blaming us for that, it's just high standard of hipocrisy.
    When Russian being insulted and humilated by ZUS, real Russians just getting ready to fight.
    I'm sure that no Russian man who currently being surrounded by enemies can speak that way Felix did.

    , @yurivku

    lol… we Slavics and maybe others all have this characteristic.
     
    BTW we, Slavs, are different. We, for example, did free your country from NAZY, but you now are destroying all monuments created for the memory of that.
    Poland is main and most aggressive US ass-kisser on the East of Europe so of course we see all that and do our conclusions.

    Yes, most of so called "bratushkas" like Bulgaria, Chekoslovakia, Poland, MonteNegro ... did cooperated with Nazy and/or now are doing that with NATO, so don't address our Slavic origins, we are different and real brothers are those who wouldn't betray and that, pity, certainly are not you. The only one left we can respect (with some limitations) is Serbia.
    Getting back to words of Alexander III - "Russia has only two allies - its army and navy", this is still true.

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