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    The musical chairs playing out among the senior officials that make up the President Donald Trump White House team would be amusing to watch but for the genuine damage that it is doing to the United States. The lack of any coherence in policy means that the State Department now has diplomats that do not...
  • After the bullshit snowstorm of Donald “Yeah, I’m lying to ya” Trump, perhaps the USA could use a strong dose of mayhem like Nikki Haley. It’ll get the barn burning briskly, open the doors and let those horses run free for awhile. For timing, it works better than Hillary, who would have had enough sense to boil the frogs slowly. Nikki is ready to just rip the legs off the frogs and start scrambling eggs.

    I like it. Sometimes the forces of revolution must be brought to a head.

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    "H would have had enough sense to boil the frogs slowly"

    Okay so you are still suffering because she lost, and your party of blue-haired nutcases did not make it back into the WH, so just calm down and start counting the days til nov4, 2024, and maybe your rabid conglomeration of SJWs, "pussy-hats" BLM crazies, and snowflake loonies, will get a chance to resume their push to transform the US into the northern version of Venezuela.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
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  • The purpose of all wars, is peace. So observed St. Augustine early in the first millennium A.D. Far be it from me to disagree with the esteemed Bishop of Hippo, but his crisply formulated aphorism just might require a bit of updating. I’m not a saint or even a bishop, merely an interested observer of...
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    Now back to the great Betty Ong 9/11 debate to see the latest lunacy.!!!!!

    Now back to the great Betty Ong 9/11 debate to see the latest lunacy.!!!!!

    Yeah. I had to exit that one; I was laughing too hard. The usual suspects are inventing shit so fast it almost triggers admiration of the typhoon of combined imaginary conspiracies. It’s like ten Neros fighting over a gas can.

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    I should apologize for my rants about how it’s possible to see 1,360 ft high buildings from many places in Manhattan.
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    June weddings????? school graduations????

    June weddings????? school graduations????

    Old joke (very) : If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?

    Pilgrims.

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    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
     
    Nectar and pollen for Apis mellifera.

    You know what they bring.

    You know what they bring.

    Illegals.

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    Illegals
     
    The worst of all illegals have typically been US military men and wimmin who've been doing the devil's dirty work for decades if not quite centuries.

    “… I spent most of my [33 years in the Marine Corps] being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for [crony] capitalism.”

    Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    Butler was a 2 time CMH awardee.

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
     
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  • @JerseyJeffersonian
    Col. Lang did not say that all comments here at UR were bad, only some, and having read all of the way through the comments appended to his recent post, he has a point. Some of the comments were off the mark, spiteful, and not nearly as insightful as you seem to be saying.

    He has been fighting the toxic influence of the NeoCons for years, and from the inside. He used to appear as a regular commentator on the McNeill/Lehrer Newshour, and sometimes on other media programs, trying to inculcate some basic understanding of the distortions introduced by US foreign and military policies in the world at large, and the substantial blowback that these policies engender. That is until the disapproval of the NeoCons who exerted an outsized and pernicious influence over what views could be expressed on these broadcasts reached such a pitch that he was no longer asked to appear on these programs. So before heaving too many brickbats, simple modesty might suggest to you to ask yourself, and perhaps you too Ronald Thomas West, what you have done in the war against these forces, in what venues, for how long, and to what effect?

    He seems an honorable man to me; a bit crusty, but that often flows from an encounter with those who have not done the work to understand history and its lessons, and who fall back onto simplistic cant as if it were a substitute for multi-faceted assessments of causes and the observed effects. He is a stern teacher - he taught soldiers under his command in Vietnam how to stay alive - who does not hesitate to administer a rebuff to the lazy-minded and ill-grounded. I have seen him be pretty harsh in a reply, and then, if he thinks that either he has gone past the mark, or that the individual roughly handled now understands how they went off half-cocked, he will soften his tone, and more explicitly reveal the lesson he was seeking to impart, which was more often than not an attempt to jar the individual out of his overly-simplistic explanatory framework. But if you are just too smart to learn anything from his tuition and breadth of knowledge, that's your look out, and some of the comments about which he remarked unfavorably originated from individuals of this sort.

    But if you are just too smart to learn anything from his tuition and breadth of knowledge, that’s your look out, and some of the comments about which he remarked unfavorably originated from individuals of this sort.

    Oh, fuh-uh-uck. “Military leadership” lectures redux.

    The very last goddamn thing anyone who was military during Vietnam should pay attention to is what you gung-ho commie-killing mother-fuckers squawked morning, noon and night.

    Yeah, let’s get all rough and manly together, and hold off the infidel.

    Shee-it. A few words of that well-remembered BULLSHIT, and I’m right back there. Makes me wanna puke. Only now I’m old and wise enough to reach for the 9mm and tell you assholes to get the fuck out of here.

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  • @Rick Johnson
    As a Vietnam War vet, I detest the right-wing virtual signaling of people saying to me and others: "Thank you for your service."

    How do they know what kind of service I rendered? Was it honorable or dishonorable? Did I perform my duties or just drink booze and chase the native women? Most of us serving did a little bit of all of the foregoing.

    But methinks the Col. doesn't understand Trump and his followers. The worldwide transition of values and forces will hasten immanent events that will rock the post-war foundations is ongoing, but not elevated up to the public consciousness yet. Stay tuned. April showers bring May flowers.

    April showers bring May flowers.

    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?

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    If April showers bring May flowers, what do May flowers bring?
     
    Nectar and pollen for Apis mellifera.

    You know what they bring.
    , @Anon
    June weddings????? school graduations????
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Twodees Partain
    "The all-wise Buddha of, I don’t know, Seattle, Brooklyn, Philadelphia?"

    More likely Lebanon, KS or Fargo, ND. He has to have this outlet since he has probably gotten his ass whipped from trying his snark out in public on people who could reach him.

    More likely Lebanon, KS or Fargo, ND. He has to have this outlet since he has probably gotten his ass whipped from trying his snark out in public on people who could reach him.

    ROFLMAO. I love you guys — you conspiracy whack-jobs. Fucking nuts from the git-go. Seventeen years go by, the world has moved on long, long ago, yet you focused, dedicated, self-sacrificing seekers after Truth exchange crib notes about phone calls (for the luv of god, tabulating phone calls from 17 years ago, jeezuss!!).

    It is interesting that conspiracy theory loonies each have their own selected homefield — your preferred conspiracy that consumes your, um, “hobby” time. Some of you fruitcakes are probably still hard at work on theories of who really killed Lizzie Borden’s Ma and Pa.

    Go back to your playground. I will leave you all alone now. But, gracious me! what frenetic stupidity! Obsession knows no limits — long proven, and proven again every day.

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    you conspiracy whack-jobs. Fucking nuts from the git-go. conspiracy theory loonies frenetic stupidity
     
    Once again, when you cannot win the debate with facts resort to name calling. Weak!
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  • @ValmMond

    dood (...) subjectivity at the societal level defines morality
     
    Let me guess: you are a recent college graduate, a dysphoric and overmedicated Brooklyn barista, probably grossly out of shape. Not to mention a libtard. The hope of the land!

    Let me guess: you are a recent college graduate, a dysphoric and overmedicated Brooklyn barista, probably grossly out of shape.

    LOL. No, Val, I am an old, over-educated, widely-experienced, former corporate VP of Technology, and one mean and rascally son of a bitch. I undergradded in Philosophy, so I know the difference between morality at the individual level, and morality at the societal level. Worse yet, I know ethics and ethical systems.

    You do not, and it is quite obvious.

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    I know ethics and ethical systems
     
    As a former Corporate VP, I'm sure you do. You know Ethics & Ethical Systems are for Suckers. Right? Riiiiight.

    I also served my time in the Corporate C-Suites, and Ethics are tantamount to Curtains and/or Shades. Espousing Ethics is enough to conceal the Looting & Backstabbing that takes place behind The Words that serve as Curtains.
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  • @daniel le mouche
    'And look at what consortium of brother-wackies crawled, shimmied, soared, oozed, deplaned, trekked, hiked out of the woodwork to comment, screeching like harpies.'

    Another very bitter failed writer of the Great American Novel?
    The all-wise Buddha of, I don't know, Seattle, Brooklyn, Philadelphia?
    You're big and mysterious, 'coming in different guises' to UR over so many years and seasons, watching the great cretinous tides ebb and flow, far above it all...

    Another very bitter failed writer of the Great American Novel?

    Novel? Perish the thought. BS Philosophy, MS Computer Science. No interest in novels at all — haven’t read fiction since a rather dreadful trip to St. Croix in 2007.

    However, in support of, and response to your gratuitous personal attack, based in conspiracy theory hurt feewings … bite me, loser.

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    Paging Parsons...

    One physiologically bound to the official narrative irrespective of its validity. Parson will enthusiastically regurgitate the ON as gospel and ignore anything that contradics it.

    As far as a Parsons is concerned the official narrative is reality. Anyone not in line with the ON is on the outside of reality, those outside this reality are often derided as conspiracy theorist.

    To a Parsons, the only reason why one would disagree with the ON is stupidity, ignorance, gullibility or dishonesty.

    Parsons who put time into debunking alternatives to the ON call themselves skeptics or debunkers. Instead of simply dismissing those who counter the ON claims as conspiracy theorist, crackpots and loons skeptics/debukers will research counter ON claims and give reasons why such claims are wrong.
    , @daniel le mouche
    I get it, you're the Git's Spittle. Corporate assfuck and proud of it, eh? Science man, eh? Read your Popular Science article, no doubt, which convinced you beyond any doubt, because THE AUTHORITIES SAID SO. Mommy issues? No doubt. Take yourself a nice bubble bath.
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  • @Sparkon
    Long on theatrics, short on substance, this mute [sic] astonishment of yours, but what else do you have?

    Else work harder on the mute and, gasp on dude.

    Else work harder on the mute and, gasp on dude.

    Let’s put it this way: 17 years of conspiracy theory, and what have you — pardon the expression — loons got left?

    Nothing.

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    Divorce sucks doesn't it?

    Tell us how the twin towers exploded.
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  • @Cold N. Holefield

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?
     
    This is why the cell phone calls or any calls are important. They help to form The Narrative. So they have EVERYTHING to do with the relevant reported events. They're crucial in "humanizing" 9/11 and creating a story. They create an indelible perception not easily undone, as we see, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

    A Washington Post story said: “[Passenger Jeremy] Glick’s cell phone call from Flight 93 and others like it provide the most dramatic accounts so far of events aboard the four hijacked aircraft during the terrifying hours of Tuesday morning, and they offer clues about how the hijackings occurred.”6
     

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?

    Again. Absolutely nothing. Flight 93 was shot down by an F-15 out of Oceana. A Sidewinder missile took out the starboard engine; the aircraft rolled right and dove to the ground at terminal velocity. Small pieces of the shredded engine and wing, produced by the explosion of the engine, floated to ground in a confetti-like shower a few miles away.

    Any and all phone calls are absolutely irrelevant — just part of fictionalizing an entertaining, albeit tragic, real-life event.

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  • @Sparkon

    Flight 93 had its own movie and is greatly fictionalized. Also, 93′s flight path took it away from good cell coverage, until it turned around.

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?

    Nothing.
     
    Really? Then explain please how Todd Beamer's Verizon cell phone records show 19 calls made from his number after Flight 93's alleged crash near Shanksville.

    On September 29, 2001, the FBI received detailed records from Verizon’s wireless subscriber office in Bedminster, NJ, that Todd Beamer’s cell phone made 19 outgoing calls after the alleged 10:03 AM crash time of Flight UA 93. This fact, along with the sixth one¹, indicates either that the man self-identified as Todd Beamer was not on UA 93, or Tod[d] Beamer’s cell phone was not on the flight, or this flight did not crash.

    ¹ According to Jefferson, the phone of the man to whom she was speaking remained connected long after UA 93 crashed.

     

    http://www.consensus911.org/point-pc-1/

    Whatever kind of a roll Todd Beamer was on, apparently he didn't let a little thing like an airplane crash slow him down, or stop his jaw from flapping.

    Oh, my gosh! I can but gasp — GASP! I say!! — in mute astonishment.

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    Long on theatrics, short on substance, this mute [sic] astonishment of yours, but what else do you have?

    Else work harder on the mute and, gasp on dude.

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Johann
    I bin einverstanden .... “the catcher on the rye” has got to be the biggest fraud ever pulled on the so called literate America A story about a smarmy rich preppie and his angst was just so much dribble on the reading public. Then the/morons who teach in our public schools foisted this crap on the youth of America . Kein wunder that Salinger spent the rest of his life in seclusion ; he must have been ashamed .

    Kein wunder that Salinger spent the rest of his life in seclusion ; he must have been ashamed .

    I remember the gushing by teachers over its “deep relevance” to “today’s alienated youth”. A boatload, if not a shipload.

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    I read it at that age and thought it a fine comedy. I was astonished to learn that Americans take it solemnly.
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  • @MikeatMikedotMike
    Hi Steve,

    Channel Z was a disqus channel (the same mod, a female, had another channel but I forget what it was called) that I received an invite to from taki commenter WhereAreTheVikings. Seemed like a good thing at first, so I posted a link to Goad's TWTP'd a few Sundays ago, and the mod flushed it and all the comments. She was also deleting other posts, and lots of the comments, then when commenters protested, and they were all deleted and or banned.

    I agree with with you on the comments though, and yeah, I don't twitter. I've been lurking around Unz for over a year maybe, but I don't comment too often. Much of the comment content is as good as the articles here, so I'll look out for you and the other former taki vets.

    [email protected]

    Channel Z was a disqus channel (the same mod, a female, had another channel but I forget what it was called) that I received an invite to from taki commenter WhereAreTheVikings.

    Oh, got it now. WATV is a bit midwestern schoolmarm of 1890. Nice person, deep down, I am sure, but I wouldn’t follow her anywhere.

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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @ValmMond

    morality is a subjective evaluation
     
    So incest, torturing kids and murdering for fun might be moral if someone decides they are? Really?
    In evolutionary terms, understanding one's environment (~ knowing the truth) is one's only chance for survival.

    was Montezuma strangled or stabbed?

     

    It may not matter to you, but no doubt it mattered for the Aztecs 500 years ago. And why should we care what does or doesn't matter to you?
    If there were a serial killer terrorizing your neighborhood who just slaughtered a family next door, wouldn't you like to see that individual identified and apprehended? Or would it make no difference to you whether your neighbors were murdered or died from mushroom poisoning? And what if you are next?
    The 9/11 perpetrators are still running loose, shaping the masses' perception of reality and plotting their next power coup.
    Americans' spiral into intellectual degenerescence and political submission started with this kind of moral relativism and complete indifference to reality. You are going down, my friend. "Good riddance", a moral relativist may say.

    So incest, torturing kids and murdering for fun might be moral if someone decides they are? Really?

    Yes, really. Subjectivity at the societal level defines morality. Sorry, d00d, but yes it does, your own moral qualms notwithstanding.

    It may not matter to you, but no doubt it mattered for the Aztecs 500 years ago. And why should we care what does or doesn’t matter to you?

    My point exactly. Exact circumstances are of but brief importance.

    Americans’ spiral into intellectual degenerescence and political submission started with this kind of moral relativism and complete indifference to reality. You are going down, my friend. “Good riddance”, a moral relativist may say.

    Oh, bullshit. Sermonize someone who believes your nonsense, padre.

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    dood (...) subjectivity at the societal level defines morality
     
    Let me guess: you are a recent college graduate, a dysphoric and overmedicated Brooklyn barista, probably grossly out of shape. Not to mention a libtard. The hope of the land!
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  • @Cold N. Holefield
    Apparently you haven't investigated the matter thoroughly nor have you read the article to which I linked.

    Explain Amy Sweeney. Cell Assignment was not Optimal for the majority of Flight 93's journey and yet many of the cell phone calls allegedly took place when not only was Cell Assignment not optimal, but actually impossible, and certainly impossible statistically for the number of successful cell phone calls reported to have been made on Flight 93.

    Also, please explain the FBI waffling on this. I say waffling, but it's tantamount to lying as far as I'm concerned. When they had to take an Official Stand for legality purposes in the Moussaoui Trial, they agreed with Professor Dewdney's Findings and scaled back the number of calls made from cell phones on Flight 93. When backed into a corner, they changed their tune. That implies they're liars, and if they're lying about that or have lied about that, then what else have they lied about?

    From the linked article.

    Given the cell phone technology available in 2001, cell phone calls from airliners at altitudes of more than a few thousand feet, especially calls lasting more than a few seconds, were virtually – and perhaps completely – impossible. And yet many of the reported cell phone calls occurred when the planes were above 25,000 or even 40,000 feet24 and also lasted a minute or more – with Amy Sweeney’s reported call even lasting for 12 minutes.25

    Three problems have been pointed out: (1) The cell phone in those days had to complete a “handshake” with a cellsite on the ground, which took several seconds, so a cell phone in a high-speed plane would have had trouble staying connected to a cellsite long enough to complete a call. (2) The signals were sent out horizontally, from cellsite to cellsite, not vertically. Although there was some leakage upward, the system was not designed to activate cell phones at high altitudes.26 (3) Receiving a signal was made even more difficult by the insulation provided by the large mass of an airliner.
     

    Explain Amy Sweeney. Cell Assignment was not Optimal for the majority of Flight 93‘s journey

    Flight 93 had its own movie and is greatly fictionalized. Also, 93′s flight path took it away from good cell coverage, until it turned around.

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?

    Nothing.

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    Flight 93 had its own movie and is greatly fictionalized. Also, 93′s flight path took it away from good cell coverage, until it turned around.

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?

    Nothing.
     
    Really? Then explain please how Todd Beamer's Verizon cell phone records show 19 calls made from his number after Flight 93's alleged crash near Shanksville.

    On September 29, 2001, the FBI received detailed records from Verizon’s wireless subscriber office in Bedminster, NJ, that Todd Beamer’s cell phone made 19 outgoing calls after the alleged 10:03 AM crash time of Flight UA 93. This fact, along with the sixth one¹, indicates either that the man self-identified as Todd Beamer was not on UA 93, or Tod[d] Beamer’s cell phone was not on the flight, or this flight did not crash.

    ¹ According to Jefferson, the phone of the man to whom she was speaking remained connected long after UA 93 crashed.

     

    http://www.consensus911.org/point-pc-1/

    Whatever kind of a roll Todd Beamer was on, apparently he didn't let a little thing like an airplane crash slow him down, or stop his jaw from flapping.
    , @Cold N. Holefield

    Mostly, Mr.Holefield, what’s cell calls got to do with anything relevant to purported events?
     
    This is why the cell phone calls or any calls are important. They help to form The Narrative. So they have EVERYTHING to do with the relevant reported events. They're crucial in "humanizing" 9/11 and creating a story. They create an indelible perception not easily undone, as we see, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

    A Washington Post story said: “[Passenger Jeremy] Glick’s cell phone call from Flight 93 and others like it provide the most dramatic accounts so far of events aboard the four hijacked aircraft during the terrifying hours of Tuesday morning, and they offer clues about how the hijackings occurred.”6
     
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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Bardon Kaldian

    Notice that Taki put up a Coulter column? That’s a red flag that TakiMag already feels the impact of comment-closure. I also am inclined to wonder who that chick-hating doofuss, DeGroot, is related to? Must be someone on the Israeli side of Theodoracopulos’ cousins.
     
    Haven't seen Coulter, but Taki's flavor was culture & politics & social commentary. Not just politics & not just a few obsessive themes (IQ, JQ, black crime,..).

    DeGroot...I mostly skipped his contributions. Be as it may, Taki's was different, rather different from unz.com (which is about politics, conspiracies & fringe ideas); or American Renaissance (which is mostly about color of crime & IQ). Other similar sites have too much traffic or are way too loony...

    Haven’t seen Coulter, but Taki’s flavor was culture & politics & social commentary.

    Yes, there is a Coulter column, now scrolled-past the top-clicker, but visible down the page. A startling contrast to the DeGroot dreck posted the same day. Surprised me, because Annie demands money for those columns, no fooling. Or, maybe she gave it away as a marketing lead. Dunno.

    Yeh, any presence of anti-Deep State websites is fading fast, or mostly redirected to a handful of loony bins, or hyper-religious wackos like the AR crowd.

    A corollary to Goebbel’s “Big Lie” theory is that small lies must be repeated just as often as the big ones. No opposition momentum must ever be allowed to form.

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  • @MikeatMikedotMike
    I tried to use that Channel Z to link to Taki's articels in the waki of him closing comments, so the usual suspects could continue the conversation. The Channel Z mod deleted the whole post, that had already garnered 100 or so comments, and gave me a snarky explanation for it. I have yet to return.

    I tried to use that Channel Z to link to Taki’s articels in the waki of him closing comments, so the usual suspects could continue the conversation. The Channel Z mod deleted the whole post, that had already garnered 100 or so comments, and gave me a snarky explanation for it. I have yet to return.

    Hi, Dot Mike. How’s it been hanging?

    I don’t know what Channel Z is. I have a tendency to avoid Inet shit that is obviously based in Millennial developments post-plain vanilla text-based forums that require some modicum of intelligence from posters. That’s just me, and I am one of those horrible meanies who thinks comments should make sense, be sensibly organized to some degree, be grammatically comprehensible, and not diverge into video and links to alien visitor websites. This means I think Twitter is for morons who follow and worship celebrity-think.

    Stick around. Some of UR’s stuff is good, sometimes. IMO, it’s way too “busy”, way too much content on the front page, way too many trivialities, but Unz probably has good motives.

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    Hi Steve,

    Channel Z was a disqus channel (the same mod, a female, had another channel but I forget what it was called) that I received an invite to from taki commenter WhereAreTheVikings. Seemed like a good thing at first, so I posted a link to Goad's TWTP'd a few Sundays ago, and the mod flushed it and all the comments. She was also deleting other posts, and lots of the comments, then when commenters protested, and they were all deleted and or banned.

    I agree with with you on the comments though, and yeah, I don't twitter. I've been lurking around Unz for over a year maybe, but I don't comment too often. Much of the comment content is as good as the articles here, so I'll look out for you and the other former taki vets.

    [email protected]
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @tanabear
    EliteComminc: "But neither one of these conclusions is born out by the evidence."

    NIST admitted in their study and analysis of WTC7 that it fell at free-fall for 2.25 seconds or roughly 8 stories. Yet Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said that there was resistance provided during the collapse. However, you cannot have free-fall and resistance being provided at the same time. Whether to believe or disbelieve the official is story is very simple.

    Is momentum transfer at free-fall acceleration possible?

    Yes or No.

    NIST admitted in their study and analysis of WTC7 that it fell at free-fall for 2.25 seconds or roughly 8 stories.

    Let me give you just a trifling bit of assistance with your wild-eyed horror at the thought of NIST making a statement without absolute qualification on all physical phenomena related …. : NOTHING falls in atmosphere as pure “free fall”. NOTHING. Got that?

    Yes, I know … that just means NIST was part of the conspiracy.

    Oh, lord, why am I talking to loons?

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    There, there, everyone knows that nothing "perfect" exists anywhere, not even a perfect vacuum in outer space where there is at least a molecule of something every cubic yard or so. So of course, the buildings did not fall in "perfect free fall." There was some air resistance. "Free fall" is just a manner of speaking to say that they fell because they were demolished with a controlled demolition, that' s all. And of course, it was not a "perfectly" controlled demolition either, but it did the job.
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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Jonathan – I did not mean to suggest that you are a moron
     
    Not to worry, Mike. I didn't think that. In fact, I actually have you mentally catalogued as one of the good guys around here. Of course, I imagine you can sense just how pissed off I'm getting about this whole situation, so my tone in that note to you probably reflects my mood, but I wasn't reproaching you, no. That certainly was not my intention!

    Anyway, as regards 9/11, in the article above, I say pretty openly that the issue of whether Betty Ong is a real person even, that is not very important in terms of 9/11 specifically.

    What the essay above is getting at, though, is a meta-issue, if you will, which applies to 9/11 and all the rest of these synthetic narratives. The issue is the difference between storytelling and real, established facts.

    The central point is that this Betty Ong is really just a character in a story. And really a sort of cipher as well. This person has essentially no real existence outside of her role in the 9/11 narrative. Even this biography they put up of her here: http://www.bettyong.org/BettyOng.htm -- the majority of her life story is just her making that phone call! There is next to no photographic record of her and what there is looks pretty dodgy.

    Yet Ron Unz expressed such confidence that this Betty Ong was real person that he wagered $10,000 that the relevant high school yearbook would clear up the issue!

    That was really a piss-poor bet on Unz's part. But, aside from just how obvious it is that he lost that wager, he just refuses to understand the core concept.

    There is no reason to think that a character from a narrative like this, like this Betty Ong, is a real person. They might be or might not be. Also, the idea that there is some real investigative journalism out there that would unearth this... well, no, there isn't! Nobody checks facts seemingly.

    Also, while this website has some good material, it is plagued by this sort of thing. Most of the material here is purely ideological. Nobody checks any facts. These guys like Sailer and Derbyshire, they just take any of these narratives, like the suicide bomber's passport was found intact again, or whatever, they take that on face value. Can you imagine any of these guys doing what I did in this article or the last one?

    1. 9/11 aircraft were below 17,000 feet altitude (FAA data).
    2. Airspeed was below 300 knots to permit maneuvering to line-up target.
    3. Cell assignment capability in geographic area was optimum.

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    LOL. Truth’s a real bitch, ain’t it, you insufferable jackass?

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Bardon Kaldian
    Since dissolution of Takitariat, I've been to Taki's perhaps 3-4 times. Didn't even bother to read anything.

    I guess there will be a diminished readership for a time & it will all, eventually, die out. Without comments, this is not too interesting a place...

    Since dissolution of Takitariat, I’ve been to Taki’s perhaps 3-4 times. Didn’t even bother to read anything.

    I guess there will be a diminished readership for a time & it will all, eventually, die out. Without comments, this is not too interesting a place…

    I may yet put up an online forum that enables comments directly to TakiMag articles in a “parallel window” mode. At the moment, I am working on something revenue-generating in nature, which takes precedence over providing a new forum for TakiMag’s crazies, so that will wait.

    Notice that Taki put up a Coulter column? That’s a red flag that TakiMag already feels the impact of comment-closure. I also am inclined to wonder who that chick-hating doofuss, DeGroot, is related to? Must be someone on the Israeli side of Theodoracopulos’ cousins.

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    I tried to use that Channel Z to link to Taki's articels in the waki of him closing comments, so the usual suspects could continue the conversation. The Channel Z mod deleted the whole post, that had already garnered 100 or so comments, and gave me a snarky explanation for it. I have yet to return.
    , @Bardon Kaldian

    Notice that Taki put up a Coulter column? That’s a red flag that TakiMag already feels the impact of comment-closure. I also am inclined to wonder who that chick-hating doofuss, DeGroot, is related to? Must be someone on the Israeli side of Theodoracopulos’ cousins.
     
    Haven't seen Coulter, but Taki's flavor was culture & politics & social commentary. Not just politics & not just a few obsessive themes (IQ, JQ, black crime,..).

    DeGroot...I mostly skipped his contributions. Be as it may, Taki's was different, rather different from unz.com (which is about politics, conspiracies & fringe ideas); or American Renaissance (which is mostly about color of crime & IQ). Other similar sites have too much traffic or are way too loony...
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  • "As one of the conditions of considering publication of this article, Ron Unz has required me to personally apologize to commenter Rurik for having previously threatened to "dox" him based on our private correspondence. I am therefore providing that apology, and also sincerely promising to make no such threats nor take such actions against him...
  • @Cold N. Holefield
    Interesting. Great analysis. No commentary has yet refuted it. It's more food for thought and further investigation.

    The person above who said cell phone calls in 2001 were possible from higher altitudes at significant speed is a liar. That is a lie. Since that time, have you noted that the FBI back-tracked on the number of calls made from cell phones? A clear sign the FBI was lying and by changing the Narrative they are covering their tracks in plain site.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/phone-calls-from-the-9-11-airliners/16924

    The person above who said cell phone calls in 2001 were possible from higher altitudes at significant speed is a liar.

    Meh. Conspiracy theory bullshit. At what altitude were the 9/11 aircraft? At what airspeed? At what location relative to cell assignments?

    1. 9/11 aircraft were below 17,000 feet altitude (FAA data).
    2. Airspeed was below 300 knots to permit maneuvering to line-up target.
    3. Cell assignment capability in geographic area was optimum.

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    Apparently you haven't investigated the matter thoroughly nor have you read the article to which I linked.

    Explain Amy Sweeney. Cell Assignment was not Optimal for the majority of Flight 93's journey and yet many of the cell phone calls allegedly took place when not only was Cell Assignment not optimal, but actually impossible, and certainly impossible statistically for the number of successful cell phone calls reported to have been made on Flight 93.

    Also, please explain the FBI waffling on this. I say waffling, but it's tantamount to lying as far as I'm concerned. When they had to take an Official Stand for legality purposes in the Moussaoui Trial, they agreed with Professor Dewdney's Findings and scaled back the number of calls made from cell phones on Flight 93. When backed into a corner, they changed their tune. That implies they're liars, and if they're lying about that or have lied about that, then what else have they lied about?

    From the linked article.

    Given the cell phone technology available in 2001, cell phone calls from airliners at altitudes of more than a few thousand feet, especially calls lasting more than a few seconds, were virtually – and perhaps completely – impossible. And yet many of the reported cell phone calls occurred when the planes were above 25,000 or even 40,000 feet24 and also lasted a minute or more – with Amy Sweeney’s reported call even lasting for 12 minutes.25

    Three problems have been pointed out: (1) The cell phone in those days had to complete a “handshake” with a cellsite on the ground, which took several seconds, so a cell phone in a high-speed plane would have had trouble staying connected to a cellsite long enough to complete a call. (2) The signals were sent out horizontally, from cellsite to cellsite, not vertically. Although there was some leakage upward, the system was not designed to activate cell phones at high altitudes.26 (3) Receiving a signal was made even more difficult by the insulation provided by the large mass of an airliner.
     
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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Logan
    You have a good point about the criticism of Jews.

    Used to comment some at Taki, and some of the postsdid indeed blame the Jews for everything imaginable and some things that weren't imaginable.

    However, your other remark is also appropriate.

    A year or so ago I remarked on a website about the odd issue of Jews leading the fight against "white privilege." I hunted down Jewish/Gentile statistics and compared them to the similar black/white statistics that are commonly used to prove the existence of white privilege. I noted that these statistics showed pretty clearly that Jewish Privilege is much stronger than White Privilege. (Assuming one accepts such statistics as relevant, as the White Privilege denouncers normally do.)

    Oh my word! Hysterics ensued.

    I am not in the least anti-Semitic, but I am also not blind. Clearly many (most?) Jews do not think the rules they impose on others should be applied to them. For instance, if it is unfair for any (prestigious) occupation to be held by whites above their proportion of the population, it is equally unfair for Jews to disproportionately occupy those positions. I was not even objecting to the fact of this disproportion, but rather to the hypocrisy of differential application of what are purportedly universal rules.

    Never did get a rational response to my post, only hysterical denunciation.

    Never did get a rational response to my post, only hysterical denunciation.

    That’s all you will ever get from Jews, unless you become sufficiently troublesome that you must be dealt with through control of your employer or local government.

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  • @Toynbee
    Excuse me, but Toynbee reads very well, thank you.

    Excuse me, but Toynbee reads very well, thank you.

    So does Heinlein’s I Will Fear No Evil.

    See what I did there? ;-)

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  • @ValmMond
    No. But one can argue that establishing the truth for its own sake is a self-sufficient moral imperative.
    It doesn't matter what exactly will change to set the record straight. It must be done simply because this is the right thing to do. As an added bonus, we'll have a neat historical demonstration of the meteoric rise of empires from and fall back to barbarism, without ever encountering civilization.

    No. But one can argue that establishing the truth for its own sake is a self-sufficient moral imperative.

    Er, no. Truth has no relevance to morality, “imperative” or otherwise. Facts are facts, morality is a subjective evaluation.

    It doesn’t matter what exactly will change to set the record straight. It must be done simply because this is the right thing to do.

    Who says when the record is straight? Who decides if that makes any difference to the contemporaneous situation? Who takes action because of the “truth” being found (and being all “imperative” and stuff)?

    These folks are just wasting a lot of heated and re-heated air. Seriously, d00d, was Montezuma strangled or stabbed? Both, you say?? Collective gasps all around!! Re-write those histories!

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    morality is a subjective evaluation
     
    So incest, torturing kids and murdering for fun might be moral if someone decides they are? Really?
    In evolutionary terms, understanding one's environment (~ knowing the truth) is one's only chance for survival.

    was Montezuma strangled or stabbed?

     

    It may not matter to you, but no doubt it mattered for the Aztecs 500 years ago. And why should we care what does or doesn't matter to you?
    If there were a serial killer terrorizing your neighborhood who just slaughtered a family next door, wouldn't you like to see that individual identified and apprehended? Or would it make no difference to you whether your neighbors were murdered or died from mushroom poisoning? And what if you are next?
    The 9/11 perpetrators are still running loose, shaping the masses' perception of reality and plotting their next power coup.
    Americans' spiral into intellectual degenerescence and political submission started with this kind of moral relativism and complete indifference to reality. You are going down, my friend. "Good riddance", a moral relativist may say.
    , @Anon
    You have misconceived the argument. Your variation on the "an is can't entail an ought" truism isn't an answer to saying that it is part of our (presumed) shared mores that establishing truth is a good in itself. That you might disagree or might wish to qualify that assertion isn't the point and anyway is not what you said.
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  • @Twodees Partain
    This recorded conversation is said to have been a 25 minute cell phone call from an airliner in flight. Questioning the likelihood of a cell phone in 2001 being capable of remaining connected for more than a few seconds at even the minimum altitude and speed required to sustain flight doesn't make the questioner some kind of nut.

    For a person to believe without question that such a call took place with a cellphone of the type used in 2001, however, would indicate that the believer is gullible and easily deceived.

    Questioning the likelihood of a cell phone in 2001 being capable of remaining connected for more than a few seconds at even the minimum altitude and speed

    Cellphones work better on airplanes. 20,000 feet isn’t even 4 miles (typical for a cell-phone connection). Elevation makes cell hand-off a snap.

    Try it some time. Go to a regional airport, spend $100 for a 90-minute fly-around in a Cessan. Try your phone. You’ll find it works better than ever.

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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    What’s pathetic here is that you think you’re being funny.

    What’s pathetic here is that you think you’re being funny.

    What’s pathetic is that you conspiracy wackadoodles thinks it makes any difference if any of it IS a product of conspiracy. It doesn’t.

    Fine, let’s say the 9/11 events are products of conspiracy. Let’s say the CIA colluded with Mossad to do it so that America will support and fund Israel ad infinitum. Media foments distrust for all things Arabic. “Hate Islam” reigns, etc.

    So what? What are you going to DO???? How are circumstances and conditions going to change?? How will the corrupted ship of state right itself?

    Heck, personally, I’m inclined to believe the CIA and Mossad had a lot to do with what happened. I think the CIA and Mossad made some converts, provided ideas and support, and let external actors run with it. It doesn’t surprise me a bit. Worse, I believe that puneto of a President was in on it from the git-go. Washington is corrupt, criminally treasonous right down to its last little toenail.

    But, so what? The MI-complex rules. Israel dictates at least 80% of all US government policy. The productive class of American citizens is being systematically stripped of all wealth and power.

    So, you want to expose “conspiracies” with a weak sauce of conjecture and Internet gossip? And everything will be fixed? America will return to equal rights under constitutional democracy? The sky will be blue, babies will laugh under the Sun of Freedom, and the Mexicans will go back to Mexico?

    WTF, man? Grow the f–k up.

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    Wow. Just wow.
    , @ValmMond
    No. But one can argue that establishing the truth for its own sake is a self-sufficient moral imperative.
    It doesn't matter what exactly will change to set the record straight. It must be done simply because this is the right thing to do. As an added bonus, we'll have a neat historical demonstration of the meteoric rise of empires from and fall back to barbarism, without ever encountering civilization.
    , @Wade

    So what? What are you going to DO???? How are circumstances and conditions going to change?? How will the corrupted ship of state right itself?
     
    One useful thing Americans could do with this information is to stop giving them what they wanted out of 911 to begin with. Stop supporting any wars and the next time something big or small happens and they say "and now we need to pass The Patriot Act 2.0" .. or they need to ban guns, or anytime US citizens are asked to sacrifice their rights, security, blood or treasure as the result of a crisis we can all just say no.

    And yet after the fake chemical gas attack this month nearly everyone is back at it again in the media telling us it was real. I'm assuming most Americans just believe it.

    It's possible to turn this around. Something like 75% of Americans no longer believed in the Warren Commission by the early 1990's. And now according to a recent Rasmussen poll 51% of US citizens don't believe the government's story on 911.

    This is a good development. Who can be most easily taken advantage of, the credulous or the skeptical? I for one am looking forward to a time when even the conservative Americans who voted for Bush no longer believe in 911 and realize that the justifications for almost every war in the 20th century, including WWI and WWII were all shams.

    It's not impossible. As Ron Unz himself pointed out that up until about 1949 the standard textbook assumption about the Civil War that most historians openly touted was that the Civil War had little or nothing to do with slavery but instead was to do with northern industrial interests.
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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Your closing paragraph is pure projection.

    Your closing paragraph is pure projection.

    Egads, you horrible atheists and your denials of the pure truth of Jesus Christ.

    But, no prob, you wackadoodle conspiracy-chasing Mickey Mouse Club alumnus. What a waste of lifespan by you pathetic dwarfs. Conspiracy? Oh, dear, oh gracious, oh my.

    Then what?

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    What’s pathetic here is that you think you’re being funny.
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  • @Muse
    The point of the UNZ review is to provide a place for the presentation of unconventional viewpoints. They provide a counterpoint to the propaganda spewing from the media.

    There is an excellent, well designed commentary section where people can discuss and disssect the article, challenge assertions and attempt to discern the truth. Revusky may be disagreeable, neurotic and wrong, but Unz put him back here because his ideas deserve consideration.

    God knows most colleges and universities are not doing it, despite it being their reason to exist.

    Revusky may be disagreeable, neurotic and wrong, but Unz put him back here because his ideas deserve consideration.

    I don’t know Unz that well, but I’ve been around UR in various guises for many years. While serious, even academically so, in many respects, Unz has an unconventional sense of humor that causes him to, on infrequent occasion, publish the wackadoodles of type Revusky.

    And look at what consortium of brother-wackies crawled, shimmied, soared, oozed, deplaned, trekked, hiked out of the woodwork to comment, screeching like harpies.

    Jesus H. Christ.

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    Your closing paragraph is pure projection.
    , @daniel le mouche
    'And look at what consortium of brother-wackies crawled, shimmied, soared, oozed, deplaned, trekked, hiked out of the woodwork to comment, screeching like harpies.'

    Another very bitter failed writer of the Great American Novel?
    The all-wise Buddha of, I don't know, Seattle, Brooklyn, Philadelphia?
    You're big and mysterious, 'coming in different guises' to UR over so many years and seasons, watching the great cretinous tides ebb and flow, far above it all...
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  • The auction price of Ram Jam’s old vinyl-release copies of “Black Betty” remains stable at $0.99.

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  • Wednesday’s criminal referral by 11 House Republicans of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as well as several former and serving top FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) officials is a giant step toward a Constitutional crisis. Named in the referral to the DOJ for possible violations of federal law are: Clinton, former FBI Director...
  • @Hunsdon
    Tis not so much that Indians are taking over MS that distresses some of us, it is that Indians are taking over Redmond.

    Tis not so much that Indians are taking over MS that distresses some of us, it is that Indians are taking over Redmond.

    Understood.

    My POV is that we need no immigrants at all. None. Nor have we needed immigrants since, imo, about 1925. Since about 1950, any immigration should have been one-time, special-case, humanitarian reason only, severely limited in numbers.

    It is my opinion that the USA has been under the increasing control of the wealthy and powerful since FDR was elected to a second term in ’36. Perhaps there was some good done since then, but it was rare, and the intention was always to further increase the wealth and power of a corrupt oligarchy. The struggle for money and power has escalated continuously, and now threatens, indeed promises, to soon destroy this nation utterly.

    Now, I am not particularly naive. I am aware that wealth and power have been the essence of government since time immemorial. But, for 150 years, the USA had a chance — a real opportunity — to elevate Mankind, human rights, and a moral political philosophy into an enduring golden age.

    IMO, it’s all over but for the proverbial shouting. If we are truly lucky, and some fraction of America puts up some amount of fight, perhaps the situation can stabilize into something less destructive of principle, ideals, rights and freedoms. However, it seems much more likely, to me, that the police state will expand to a maximum condition of oppression, and the rich and powerful will once again rule by fiat, with predictable inhuman cruelty, until the collapse of civilization is complete.

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  • The MSM is controlled by Zionists as is the U.S. gov and the banks, so it is no surprise that the MSM protects the ones destroying America, this is what they do.

    Nothing of consequence will be done to any of the ones involved, it will all be covered up, as usual.

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  • @jacques sheete

    And that will come especially from the mainstream media...
     
    I quit reading right there.

    Use of that term indicates mental laziness at best. What's mainstream about it? Please refer to corporate media in proper terms, such as PCR's "presstitute" media.

    Speaking of PCR, it's too bad he doesn't allow comments.

    Speaking of PCR, it’s too bad he doesn’t allow comments.

    The last two from PCR have been too damn much pure truth to ignore. I tried dropping a comment or two in another comment-bin, but no takers. Unzites seem to have a bad case of apathy over significant issues, sublimated with “replacement therapy” in the form of chickenshit kvetching over Indians at Microsoft. (*)

    (*) So stop buying MS products. They suck.

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    Tis not so much that Indians are taking over MS that distresses some of us, it is that Indians are taking over Redmond.
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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • @Rurik

    I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.
     
    I know what you mean, but even as they speak in Newspeak, and the ubiquitous mendacity is insulting and grating, I still like to stay informed on the misinformation they're programming into people's minds.

    I can't watch the leftist stuff on CNN and the rest, because it's far too shrill, but I used to watch O'Rielly just to know what the Red state folks were told to think.

    And watching Tucker can be pretty enlightening to just how far off the rails the left has careened.

    Last night the guest host had a guy on who was trying to speak at Harvard law school on free speech, and the Red Guards shut him down, shouting things like "fuck the law!"

    apparently free speech is just code for 'white supremacism', (did you know that?)

    we should be aware that the left is descending into stark madness, where you are guilty by virtue of your gender and hue, and your only acceptable response is 'I'm sorry, and what can I do to make restitution'

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    Yes, but the end is in sight. Once the conflicts are resolved by civil war — to whatever extent resolution takes place — we will get an interregnum of some sort, during which some gains may be made. Maybe so, maybe no — it’s a crapshoot. Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

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    Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.
     
    or Rousseau for that matter

    it’s a crapshoot.
     
    have you seen this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEO0-lkWlr8
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  • @Rurik

    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.
     
    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer's doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn't take my eyes off of her, I still couldn't get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it's not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    If it’s any consolation … they do age badly. ;-)

    Meh, Costa Rica — the first place my family got tangled up with locals, providing me with CR relatives I never see. CR is so Americanized, it’s almost lost its own identity.

    I grew up with Latins, so I am immune to the girls. They ain’t foolin’ me … Unfortunately, the war provided me with a preference for Vietnamese girls that has never worn off. Chacun a son gout.

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  • The concept of “cognitive capitalism” was used by Yann Boutang in 2008 (modern economies are becoming more knowledge based), but I first heard it used by Heiner Rindermann in a somewhat different sense: cognitive ability is the cause of wealth. Heiner’s earliest mention of it in the title of a paper is one which we...
  • @middle aged vet . . .
    Steve - I am not going to disagree with you and say you are wrong, I respect your statements and believe that you are sincere. Smarter people than me have been wrong about God for many more decades than I was.

    I have never believed in the "gods", although when I was young I thought of the ancient Roman gods with deep respect, based on the portraits of Vergilian dolphins on the plastic inflatable swimming pools of the day ("the day" being, roughly, summertime America 50 years ago, with lots of green trees and presumably lots of inflatable swimming pools, whether one lived near or far from the realm of Poseidon - for me, it was a 20 minute car ride to the ocean, but I did not own a car!!! sad, I loved the Ocean !!!!) , and based on the devastatingly accurate corn goddesses one often saw depicted, in beautifully wrought oak or pine woodwork, on the cuckoo clocks in rich people's houses, and based on the fleeting versions of Aphrodite and Apollo and Minerva one saw, depicted sculptures on the back of the stages of plays that almost everybody but me has mostly forgotten, on TV or at the local college theater, back in the day, or in other venues, maybe in the atrium of the college library or maybe on the local village green ....

    But I do believe in God, and I have no reason to believe that God does not need the help of people like you.

    He can do without my help, of course, I lived decades and decades thinking that I knew for certain, and was ok with that, that I could only know the silence of God, even though I knew who He was. But every once in a while I remembered those days when God looked at me with those innocent stupid eyes of His and with that unmatchable empathy of His which I now know is his trademark for most of us (days before I was born, maybe, or when I was uneducated, very uneducated, or days when I faced the prospect of likely death (only 30 or 40 days in my first four decades, but that is still a lot) or days when I faced the likelihood of chronic disease - well, the sort of days we all face, sooner or later) and then I remembered, with a start, that the silence was because I did not want to help Him as much as he would have liked me to. The silence was not because He wanted me to spend a moment thinking he could be silent! Not at all! He was innocent but not stupid, and his empathy was not just what I used to think of as empathy but it was a truth that I ought to have shared as best I could! And,at times, in my humble way, I did: as God is my witness, I tried. That was long ago, yesterday is so long ago to people like us, Steve, remembering the truths of mathematics and arithmetic.

    (What follows is a paragraph of run-on sentences. Please read those sentences, imagining how much better you could have written them: thanks....) It is no small thing to say I did not understand God until I understood that he needed my friendship -
    and it is no small thing to say that once I understood that I remembered every single human interaction I had ever had that demonstrated the truth that, in fact, not only did Adam and Eve and all that gang live real lives, long ago, but also the truth that I, and almost every one I will ever talk to, except them, is older than them, in their fantastic youth: well, once I understood that, I realized that Adam was no myth and Eve was no myth, they may not have felt much of a need to talk to me but if they only knew how many funny stories I could tell them about their grandchildren - well, you know how you go to a party and at first it is kind of awkward and an hour or two later everyone is talking as if they had been friends forever? Like I said, sometime you feel you knew them when they were a lot younger than they are. Memories and all that, and hope.

    Just saying. I have been wrong before. But come on, don't you remember a party that was that good, or almost that good?

    Frankly, I believe you have created a number of stories in your mind, and you indulge in variations and adaptations of those stories.

    Far be it from me to concern myself with what you believe and why you believe it.

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
    –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

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    Thanks, Steve, for trying to understand. And thanks for the interesting responses.

    I am not going to ramble on here, but if you are interested, I have posted a couple hundred times as "Efim Polenov" at the Marginal Revolution blog, where I attempt to explain, again and again, in a kind-hearted and sometimes consciously foolish way, why intelligent scientists and scholars and honest citizens of our contemporary democratic world should at least feel some respect for those who claim to understand why, exactly why, we all know God loves us, even if we are ignoring that knowledge day to day (if you are a person interested in words, the Book of Proverbs, along with Isaiah, is the wonderful gentle place to which I subtly refer every single time, but it is my failing that it is not the whole Bible I refer to, every single time - Eliot was good on this intellectual (just kidding, "intellectual" is not the word that you want) type of lifelong references to books that are, as Schnabel said about musical compositions he liked, better than they can be played - Little Gidding, for example, which refers again and again to the letters of John the Apostle, when read with compassion for the poet's failings, explains lots of my basic rhetorical tricks in the referring-to-Proverbs-and-Isaiah way. It is kind of simple and not really complicated, but accurate, which is not nothing) .

    If you are not interested in how I explain everything, that is ok too. I have a couple dozen pals who long ago professed their vows as nuns or priests or contemplatives with vows of poverty and I will ask each and every one of them to pray for each of us to understand the world better. God loves us all. Cor ad cor loquitur, dixit Deus, septimo vespertino hora (heart speaks to heart, said God, in the evening hour of the seventh day)

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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    Naw, don’t think so … Chile is predominantly Spanish, 65% white of European ancestry, the rest mestizo or amerind (very few negros). Some Brits, yes. Argentina does have a lot of Italians, IIRC.

    When we were kids going to the American school in Sao Paulo, the SA “American” schools organized athletic tournaments twice a year. We played baseball, touch football, track and field with kids from American schools all over South America. Major partying went on for three days — nobody gave a damn about the athletics, it was an international make-out session of epic proportion.

    We couldn’t understand the Chilean Spanish, a lot of them being rich Santiago society girls put in an American school for the usual reasons. They were drop-dead gorgeous chiquitas, usually producing testosterone-driven fights. Also, I remember a bit of a scandal when one of the US Consulate’s chaperoning vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    Ah, good times.

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    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.
     
    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer's doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn't take my eyes off of her, I still couldn't get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it's not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!
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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Pat Kittle
    Why do you "suspect Goad is verboten on UR"?

    Goad is a vassal of TakiMag. Cutting and pasting from one webzine to another is considered gauche, if not outright illegal for various and sundry copyright reasons.

    Unz is an okay guy, and reasonably restrained with regard to the multitude of crazies who use his comment-sections for, sometimes, rather wackadoodley semi-hysterical ranting.

    Busy, busy, busy in the Vonnegutian sense.

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    Thanks, I'm familiar with Jim Goad from TakiMag (which banned me years ago).

    Recently (as you likely know) all commenters (& all their previous comments) are banned from TakiMag -- allegedly because some criticized Jews:
    -- [ http://takimag.com/article/gag_reflex#axzz5D9nCpS6k ].

    A favorite straw-man refrain from Jewish censors everywhere:

    "Oh, just blame da Joos for everything -- meteors, hurricanes..."

    As we know, few blame Jews for EVERYTHING -- the goal of Jewish censors is to ban criticism of Jews for ANYTHING.

    Anyway, Goad might be a good fit here at Unz, joining other TakiMag columnists already here.

    Unz is my #1 go-to website. Thanks, Ron.
    , @anonymous

    with regard to the multitude of crazies who use his comment-sections for, sometimes, rather wackadoodley semi-hysterical ranting.

     

    I do it all the time. That is what I love about The UR. :D

    See, it is one thing to be armchair crazies, generally quite harmless, just venting our feelings, than be the crazy racist mofers of your kind, who in stark contrast commit satanic evil, causing untold suffering to real people.

    Can your despicable self understand that basic difference?

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  • "Ten days ago, President Trump was saying 'the United States should withdraw from Syria.' We convinced him it was necessary to stay." Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, "We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term." Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war "for the long term"?...
  • @Rurik

    Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.
     
    like when some guest is frothing over 'Russia meddling in our elections!', and then he says -

    'AIPAC'

    I'm not sure what would happen. I suspect he'd be sent to 'beyond the Pale' for such impertinence.

    PCR has already wondered out loud when some woman will pop up who claims he sexually harassed her.

    But I don't see it so much as Tucker himself, but rather Murdoch's sons. They decide who is on the air during that time slot. They could simply replace him tomorrow with another zio-shill if they were so inclined. So I'm at least hopeful that there's still a shred, however infinitesimal, of hope for the truth to at least not be completely extinguished by zio-lies.

    But I'm not counting on it, and am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    If you want South America, be advised Uruguay is a bit of a mess. Also, cold in winter.

    In Chile, the three coastal cities of Antofagasta, Iquique, and Arica are bastions of modernity in a stable economy (for as long as the copper lasts — another 20 years, easy). IMO, climate at the Tropic of Capricorn (Antofagasta) is just about perfect. Iquique is close enough, Arica kinda on the edge, IMO — especially with its proximity to the Peruvian border.

    If you can stumble through pidgin Spanish already, as most victims of the illegal invasion have been forced to learn, three months of practice with Chileans should be sufficient. Chile does not speak Spanish in quite the same way as the Conquistador areas. Takes getting used to. Also, Chile’s population is substantially white European.

    I have my personal choices narrowed down to Iquique, and Lagos or Albufeira in Portugal.

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    fascinating

    I sort of use Uruguay as this mythical place not part of the insanity where I now languish, and have wondered what it's like, but never was really drawn too much to it.

    Your description of Iquique intrigues me, as that's exactly the kind of place I'd like to check out.

    Been to Costa Rica a few times, and love it, but too many Yankees are going there. Thinking about Panama too.

    my agenda is eventually to travel all around, until I find home. Trying to scrape together some dinero, (know enough Spanish to get by), so I can venture forth.

    The girlfriend is an issue, so that's probably what's slowing me down.

    Albufeira looks amazing!

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xl4ap5IVLJM/TeTF7GFErWI/AAAAAAAAAz4/GImAMzSKBUQ/s1600/Albufeira.JPG

    I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don't know if that's too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    (I've offered my services as travel writer for Unz, but Ron hasn't contacted me yet :) )

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  • In my infamous column “The Talk, Nonblack Version” at TakiMag, six years ago this month, I introduced the ad hoc abbreviation IWSB for “Intelligent and Well-Socialized Blacks.” I then advised the nonblack youth of America as follows: I can’t really claim to have been very energetic about taking my own advice here, but there is...
  • @Bardon Kaldian
    I agree that IQ is non-negligible, but I fail to see why some people, Derb included, attach so much importance to it.


    African-American IQ is supposed to be 85, while Indian- 82
    . Is this a joke? India is not a very functioning country, but does anyone with a minimum of common sense truly think that an imaginary independent country, comprised of blacks, could be as nearly developed as India (education, science, technology, tourism, levels of corruption, crime levels etc.)

    Mongolia- IQ 101.

    Germany-IQ 99

    Slovenia-IQ 96

    Iran-IQ 84

    So, Iran and India are, on average, dumber that American blacks?

    Hard to believe ...

    So, Iran and India are, on average, dumber that American blacks?

    Jeeze, Bardo, don’t play the naif. The IQ business is, well, a lot like show business, but has a much smaller market. There’s guys out there — writers, researchers, commentators — who need jobs, or some kinda income, ya know? The only subject on which they can bullshit interminably is IQ, inexhaustibly, while proving and demonstrating absolutely nothing. If any situation is a pure proof of the ability of idiots to transcend all useful function, IQ-ists stand unchallenged.

    On any given day of the week, the Kardashian industry rakes in more cash than all the squalling IQ-ists on seven continents and Malaysia. Does it not trouble you, however triflingly, that you and I, intelligent and informed personages though we be, engender some mils of income, some Zimbabwean largesse, to the forces of IQ-ism? Scoffing has no effect; pointing out the insignificance of minuscule statistical values long since swamped-out by situational and environmental realities … well, it just does no good at all. They’re like roaches — there’s always one the bug-spray doesn’t reach.

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  • @attilathehen
    There's that Jewish degeneracy. Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians, so of course you think white/Asian interbreeding is kosher. It is not. Fortunately, most of this "white" - Asian inbreeding is taking place with Jews. Jews are haram and cannot be in the West. Derbyshire's interbreeding produced a son with problems who needed military service to straighten him out. Derb's Chinese daughter has an IQ of 100-105. Derb's Chinese tiger mama did not produce anything of value.

    You are as stupid, petty, and chickenshit mean as they come.

    And Ignored. Bye now.

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • Just a bit more real truth from PCR. Carry on …

    All of America, indeed of the entire West, lives in The Matrix, a concocted [and false] reality. Western peoples are so propagandized, so brainwashed, that they have no understanding that their disunity was created in order to make them impotent in the face of a rapacious ruling class, a class whose arrogance and hubris has the world on the brink of nuclear Armageddon.

    History as it actually happened is disappearing as those who tell the truth are dismissed as misogynists, racists, homophobes, Putin agents, terrorist sympathizers, anti-Semites, and conspiracy theorists. Liberals who complained mightily of McCarthyism now practice it ten-fold.

    The United States with its brainwashed and incompetent population—indeed, the entirety of the Western populations are incompetent—and with its absence of intelligent leadership has no chance against Russia and China, two massive countries arising from their overthrow of police states as the West descends into a gestapo state. The West is over and done with. Nothing remains of the West but the lies used to control the people. All hope is elsewhere.

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    The whole of the comment
     
    To an order of magnitude: us deplorables are hard-wired for being herded and living by tuning in on our insignificant other. That is why man and wife pairs are so close general IQ wise as a rule, that is why... our politicians, media, scribes, the output of Holywood is close to the street. Cops and thieves, the good guys and the bad guys, bigger is better permeate language, the vocabulary itself points to ignorance.

    The output of our elites, are ...what we deserve: more of trash and toxic rediculance.

    No question, if for a second as in history, a few times has happened, the deplorables "escape" the bashing worse chaos results, and in a blimp of time they submit to a next cycle of herding.

    That is the destiny of the species, that is how humanity perishes if nothing more clement appears to get at us obese masses. The comment is destined to our own, so it might be of to a degree or two, sure enough someone might find the bone and run with it.
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  • In my infamous column “The Talk, Nonblack Version” at TakiMag, six years ago this month, I introduced the ad hoc abbreviation IWSB for “Intelligent and Well-Socialized Blacks.” I then advised the nonblack youth of America as follows: I can’t really claim to have been very energetic about taking my own advice here, but there is...
  • @Truth


    This, here (atillathehen), is someone clearly obsessed with race. Someone for whom race transcends all else.
     

    And this sets her apart here?

    And this sets her apart here?

    The vehement monomania is what sets the little nutjob apart. You know that. Ring a bell?

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  • @Sunbeam
    I do not disagree with you at all.

    But it sure seems like Asians (and as you know when we say that, mostly we mean Chinese/Japanese/Koreans here) have far lesser propensity to ... destroy themselves with plenty or something.

    I know very little about increasing obesity in China. But aside from the obvious intelligence angle, Asians seem to be far less likely to become drunks, get fat (compared to Americans), suffer poor health from other lifestyle choices, or become criminals (everything looks good compared to the black rate, but the white rate is roughly twice that of Asians if my memory serves).

    In short out of all the groups I see they seem best able to cope with the modern world. Well if you aren't using the modern world to become Idiocracy.

    That said, what you wrote is eminently valid. There are a lot of things that seem to apply to the issues discussed on this board that are never referred to. It's genes, genes, genes all the way down.

    I know very little about increasing obesity in China. But aside from the obvious intelligence angle, Asians seem to be far less likely to become drunks, get fat (compared to Americans), suffer poor health from other lifestyle choices, or become criminals (everything looks good compared to the black rate, but the white rate is roughly twice that of Asians if my memory serves).

    Yup. Picking up on your general trend of argument, if it be such, my personal conclusion is that European/American whites interbreeding with Asians should produce a superior hybrid human strain. And I don’t see anything wrong with that.

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    There's that Jewish degeneracy. Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians, so of course you think white/Asian interbreeding is kosher. It is not. Fortunately, most of this "white" - Asian inbreeding is taking place with Jews. Jews are haram and cannot be in the West. Derbyshire's interbreeding produced a son with problems who needed military service to straighten him out. Derb's Chinese daughter has an IQ of 100-105. Derb's Chinese tiger mama did not produce anything of value.
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  • @Dissident
    @ Yan Shen:

    This, here (atillathehen), is someone clearly obsessed with race. Someone for whom race transcends all else. Someone who never misses an opportunity to level petty insults at any and all non-whites as well as any white who dares to defy or fall short of the level of ethno-narcissism that she demands from all whites.

    And you lump together, with someone like that, someone like John Derbyshire? Do you really not see how preposterous that is?

    All that said, perhaps, at this point-- after seeing you repeatedly characterize Derb as nothing more than "a white Ta-Nehisi Coates", after calling you out on such absurdity several times and receiving no response from you to my challenges... Well, at this point, perhaps, in making this post, I am revealing somewhat of a fixation on my part with your fixation on attacking Derb in service to an apparent insatiable need of yours to preen and virtue-signal.

    service to an apparent insatiable need of yours to preen and virtue-signal.

    Ref. Yan Shen … bingo. But, it’s okay. The world produces a never-ending supply of Yan Shens to provide us uglies with proper instruction.

    Just a suggestion … as you read his shtick, you will recognize he is saying the same things over and over again, in the “same BS, different application” format. Lots and lots of words; not a lick of proof.

    After awhile, you just laugh.

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  • The concept of “cognitive capitalism” was used by Yann Boutang in 2008 (modern economies are becoming more knowledge based), but I first heard it used by Heiner Rindermann in a somewhat different sense: cognitive ability is the cause of wealth. Heiner’s earliest mention of it in the title of a paper is one which we...
  • @middle aged vet . . .
    Steve G. that was a very eloquent comment, sometimes I think I read too many comments on too many comment threads and then I read a really well written one like that.

    That being said, and feel free, or course, to ignore this, here are some related thoughts:

    you stated "in an unbounded universe":

    There is no evidence, beyond evidence that only, so far, "appears" to be evidence, and which may or may not be reliable, that the universe is unbounded outside of evidence that can be called "negative inference".

    That being said, according to an impressively well written popular science book I recently read, there probably is reliable, measured, and accurate evidence that if the universe is not unbounded, it is still (or nevertheless, if you prefer) approximately at least 1,000 times as large as the Hubble Sphere (so if the universe is finite, it is still approximately big enough that our 26 billion wide observable part of it is one thousandth of it). (Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis are my source for this, and they are quoting an unpublished interview with Max Tegmark, on page 1 of "The Shape of Inner Space" (Basic Books, 2010). To quote: "the Hubble volume we see is just one out of at least one thousand such volumes that must exist."

    So your assessment stands, because the randomness of "an unbounded universe" and the randomness of a universe that is a thousand times as large as the Hubble volume are, for deductive purposes, almost indistinguishable over the recent time frame of SETI exploration.

    That being said, please recognize that it is possible that the universe is just a few thousand years old, that Adam and Eve spent some time in the Garden of Eden, and that miracles have occurred, and will continue to occur, because such possibilities are not inconsistent with anything anybody has ever discovered. Heart speaks to heart, after all, cor ad cor loquitur.

    This next paragraph is long, but I do think it makes sense. Please be indulgent, and try to remember I am discussing things I have learned from people who are much smarter than myself: .... Yes you might think: but Science! but Evidence! and I would reply: I have no doubt that the stars we see are just as far away as they seem, and that the cosmic distance ladder (Rowan-Robinson's book was one of the best books on the subject) is a Real Thing: but when people wax on about how awesomely large the universe is, I - who 50 years ago decided that, since the best physicists did not look on other physicists as people who understood the world but just people who worked on problems - and they were right! - well I decided it would be just as much fun to wait around and see what they discovered as to do it myself, and I decided to try and understand people, which is the task of a lifetime, just as the task of understanding physics is the task of a lifetime. And when you understand people, you ask yourself, at the end of the day - what makes more sense than Adam and Eve? Why wouldn't there actually be a Fish that kept Jonah alive for 3 days? (and I did read enough Newton and Gauss and Euler to understand that, no, the night sky is not awesomely large - it is just big enough to be big enough to produce, by the actual and confirmed processes we know, the type of things that are necessary for a complex mind - supernova-remnant complex molecules, et cetera, you know what I am talking about). (For the record, I realize that this paragraph is not written in a way that can be understood the first time through. Please read it twice. I said that science is real and that cosmological measurements are accurate but then I said that physicists do not progress by "learning more about everything" but by working on finite problems. People are more complex than the universe, and understanding people leads to the conclusion that every word of the Bible is true. Yes, just as much as millions of Americans watched some HBO show last week, fascinated and entertained, even so Jonah spent a couple days in the belly of a fish, except HBO is there for money, Jonah was there for the truth.)

    To change the subject, Greg Cochran is a go-to guy on why advanced civilizations "do not self-destruct", he has described why our perceptions of the world reach, or tend to, a healthy equilibrium, because that is how our consciousness functions (in a post that I have not been able to find), and he has also said a lot of true things (in my humble opinion) about how civilizations (and, even in the last 4,000 years that I think we have lived, and a fortiori in the dozens of thousands of years Cochran thinks modern humans have lived), there have been a lot of civilizations, not the ten or twenty you might think if you just think of "Roman" and "Hittite" and "Babylonian" and "Chinese" and so on, but exponentially more than that.

    Thanks for reading. I am not a performance artist I really think Adam and Eve loved each other, and had those bickering children we read about. Sad! But also, if I am right, felix peccatum (oh happy fault) = the world is a better place than the most enthusiastic and most gifted mere scientist would feel comfortable claiming that it is. ((**God loves us the way we are, even the physicists, but loves us too much to let us stay that way**)) (a slightly modified quote from "Junebug", a movie from a decade or two ago).

    There is no evidence, beyond evidence that only, so far, “appears” to be evidence, and which may or may not be reliable, that the universe is unbounded outside of evidence that can be called “negative inference”.

    The universe appears to be unbounded. That is, there is no evidence that it is bounded. I find the concept of an unbounded universe to be much preferable to that of a bounded universe. An unbounded universe is philosophically pleasing; a bounded universe requires inventive explanation as to why, how, and to what extent it is bounded, and by what barriers, containers, or energies it is bounded. If I were a creator-god, I would have willed it into existence as infinite and eternal.

    I cannot believe the Adam/Eve story, any more than I could believe any of the many creation myths human societies have invented, from Aramaic to Zoroastrian. Primitive human societies were just that: primitive. They lacked sophistication of concept, but apparently literature as novel-form came naturally. That’s a joke. I make many little jokes.

    I worry very little about gods. I have my own problems, and they have theirs. One must assume the gods can handle their own problems — doubtlessly much better than we do ours.

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    Steve - I am not going to disagree with you and say you are wrong, I respect your statements and believe that you are sincere. Smarter people than me have been wrong about God for many more decades than I was.

    I have never believed in the "gods", although when I was young I thought of the ancient Roman gods with deep respect, based on the portraits of Vergilian dolphins on the plastic inflatable swimming pools of the day ("the day" being, roughly, summertime America 50 years ago, with lots of green trees and presumably lots of inflatable swimming pools, whether one lived near or far from the realm of Poseidon - for me, it was a 20 minute car ride to the ocean, but I did not own a car!!! sad, I loved the Ocean !!!!) , and based on the devastatingly accurate corn goddesses one often saw depicted, in beautifully wrought oak or pine woodwork, on the cuckoo clocks in rich people's houses, and based on the fleeting versions of Aphrodite and Apollo and Minerva one saw, depicted sculptures on the back of the stages of plays that almost everybody but me has mostly forgotten, on TV or at the local college theater, back in the day, or in other venues, maybe in the atrium of the college library or maybe on the local village green ....

    But I do believe in God, and I have no reason to believe that God does not need the help of people like you.

    He can do without my help, of course, I lived decades and decades thinking that I knew for certain, and was ok with that, that I could only know the silence of God, even though I knew who He was. But every once in a while I remembered those days when God looked at me with those innocent stupid eyes of His and with that unmatchable empathy of His which I now know is his trademark for most of us (days before I was born, maybe, or when I was uneducated, very uneducated, or days when I faced the prospect of likely death (only 30 or 40 days in my first four decades, but that is still a lot) or days when I faced the likelihood of chronic disease - well, the sort of days we all face, sooner or later) and then I remembered, with a start, that the silence was because I did not want to help Him as much as he would have liked me to. The silence was not because He wanted me to spend a moment thinking he could be silent! Not at all! He was innocent but not stupid, and his empathy was not just what I used to think of as empathy but it was a truth that I ought to have shared as best I could! And,at times, in my humble way, I did: as God is my witness, I tried. That was long ago, yesterday is so long ago to people like us, Steve, remembering the truths of mathematics and arithmetic.

    (What follows is a paragraph of run-on sentences. Please read those sentences, imagining how much better you could have written them: thanks....) It is no small thing to say I did not understand God until I understood that he needed my friendship -
    and it is no small thing to say that once I understood that I remembered every single human interaction I had ever had that demonstrated the truth that, in fact, not only did Adam and Eve and all that gang live real lives, long ago, but also the truth that I, and almost every one I will ever talk to, except them, is older than them, in their fantastic youth: well, once I understood that, I realized that Adam was no myth and Eve was no myth, they may not have felt much of a need to talk to me but if they only knew how many funny stories I could tell them about their grandchildren - well, you know how you go to a party and at first it is kind of awkward and an hour or two later everyone is talking as if they had been friends forever? Like I said, sometime you feel you knew them when they were a lot younger than they are. Memories and all that, and hope.

    Just saying. I have been wrong before. But come on, don't you remember a party that was that good, or almost that good?

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • PCR’s latest is really good. I love it when he gets to ripping, and doesn’t stop for 2000+ words or so. It reads a lot better than Toynbee, fersher.

    The working class, designated by Hillary Clinton as “the Trump deplorables,” is now the victimizer, not the victim. Marxism has been stood on its head.

    The American ruling class loves Identity Politics, because Identity Politics divides the people into hostile groups and prevents any resistance to the ruling elite. With blacks screaming at whites, women screaming at men, and homosexuals screaming at heterosexuals, there is no one left to scream at the rulers.

    The ruling elite favors a “conversation on race,” because the ruling elite know it can only result in accusations that will further divide society. Consequently, the ruling elite have funded “black history,” “women’s studies,” and “transgender dialogues,” in universities as a way to institutionalize the divisiveness that protects them. These “studies” have replaced real history with fake history.

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    Excuse me, but Toynbee reads very well, thank you.
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  • Fred likes to fulminate over all things Trump (and us Deplorables – calling us ‘gas station louts

    Who among us does not secretly wish to be a Mayberry Goober? Pumping gas, tuning carbs, changing tires, washing windshields? Drinking beer and playing poker after 5PM, and looking down the blouse of a hot chick in the driver’s seat?

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    Yea, gotta give Goober his due, sometimes rural folk are resourceful

    http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/funny-redneck-doorbell.jpg
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  • The concept of “cognitive capitalism” was used by Yann Boutang in 2008 (modern economies are becoming more knowledge based), but I first heard it used by Heiner Rindermann in a somewhat different sense: cognitive ability is the cause of wealth. Heiner’s earliest mention of it in the title of a paper is one which we...
  • @jack daniels
    While adding a racial qualifier, the Nazis promoted the usual socialist thesis that every person of good will can make meaningful contributions and is roughly equal in overall ability to others. One thing I notice in writers on both left and right who promote the importance of IQ is that they tend to overlook the importance of other merits such as self-discipline, honesty, courage, loyalty, concern for others, etc. Adam Smith did not overlook these when defining human capital. For example, Jews are brighter on average but bright ideas require a work force to follow through on, and if the work force is of low quality the final addition to wealth will be smaller than otherwise.

    One thing I notice in writers on both left and right who promote the importance of IQ is that they tend to overlook the importance of other merits such as self-discipline, honesty, courage, loyalty, concern for others, etc.

    Mostly irrelevant. Resources and opportunity are what count the most — ask any Eskimo.

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  • @Fredtard
    And therein lies the rub. Adam Smith's calling out of prudence as the key virtue was more than prescient. Superior intelligence has led to greater ability to employ technology to extract/exploit and militarily/economically control resources. But resources, even cognitive ones, are finite.

    Are we affluent, industrious, and intelligent societies too lacking in humility, to enamored of our string of successes conquering nature and nations, that we can not or will not admit to and/or deal with the rapidly approaching ecological collapse that is closing in on all sides? Deny if you must, but the dire warnings are all around us. My cataloguing them won't wake anyone up whose basic worldview doesn't want to countenance the harsh realities.

    Maybe we're too smart for our own good, or at a minimum lack the capacity to adequately address the slowly approaching existential issues. Global warming and the so far unresolved national debt crisis are two examples of failure to act. My favored answer to Fermi's paradox is the one which posits that all advanced civilizations self-destruct(ed).

    Too bad hope and faith are neither intelligent nor prudent.

    My favored answer to Fermi’s paradox is the one which posits that all advanced civilizations self-destruct(ed).

    The response to that position is “truly advanced civilizations do not self-destruct”.

    Fermi’s paradox really isn’t. In an unbounded Universe, the probability that any advanced civilization will encounter another advanced civilization is random, at best.

    And don’t forget: probability has yet to be a cause of anything at all.

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    • Replies: @middle aged vet . . .
    Steve G. that was a very eloquent comment, sometimes I think I read too many comments on too many comment threads and then I read a really well written one like that.

    That being said, and feel free, or course, to ignore this, here are some related thoughts:

    you stated "in an unbounded universe":

    There is no evidence, beyond evidence that only, so far, "appears" to be evidence, and which may or may not be reliable, that the universe is unbounded outside of evidence that can be called "negative inference".

    That being said, according to an impressively well written popular science book I recently read, there probably is reliable, measured, and accurate evidence that if the universe is not unbounded, it is still (or nevertheless, if you prefer) approximately at least 1,000 times as large as the Hubble Sphere (so if the universe is finite, it is still approximately big enough that our 26 billion wide observable part of it is one thousandth of it). (Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis are my source for this, and they are quoting an unpublished interview with Max Tegmark, on page 1 of "The Shape of Inner Space" (Basic Books, 2010). To quote: "the Hubble volume we see is just one out of at least one thousand such volumes that must exist."

    So your assessment stands, because the randomness of "an unbounded universe" and the randomness of a universe that is a thousand times as large as the Hubble volume are, for deductive purposes, almost indistinguishable over the recent time frame of SETI exploration.

    That being said, please recognize that it is possible that the universe is just a few thousand years old, that Adam and Eve spent some time in the Garden of Eden, and that miracles have occurred, and will continue to occur, because such possibilities are not inconsistent with anything anybody has ever discovered. Heart speaks to heart, after all, cor ad cor loquitur.

    This next paragraph is long, but I do think it makes sense. Please be indulgent, and try to remember I am discussing things I have learned from people who are much smarter than myself: .... Yes you might think: but Science! but Evidence! and I would reply: I have no doubt that the stars we see are just as far away as they seem, and that the cosmic distance ladder (Rowan-Robinson's book was one of the best books on the subject) is a Real Thing: but when people wax on about how awesomely large the universe is, I - who 50 years ago decided that, since the best physicists did not look on other physicists as people who understood the world but just people who worked on problems - and they were right! - well I decided it would be just as much fun to wait around and see what they discovered as to do it myself, and I decided to try and understand people, which is the task of a lifetime, just as the task of understanding physics is the task of a lifetime. And when you understand people, you ask yourself, at the end of the day - what makes more sense than Adam and Eve? Why wouldn't there actually be a Fish that kept Jonah alive for 3 days? (and I did read enough Newton and Gauss and Euler to understand that, no, the night sky is not awesomely large - it is just big enough to be big enough to produce, by the actual and confirmed processes we know, the type of things that are necessary for a complex mind - supernova-remnant complex molecules, et cetera, you know what I am talking about). (For the record, I realize that this paragraph is not written in a way that can be understood the first time through. Please read it twice. I said that science is real and that cosmological measurements are accurate but then I said that physicists do not progress by "learning more about everything" but by working on finite problems. People are more complex than the universe, and understanding people leads to the conclusion that every word of the Bible is true. Yes, just as much as millions of Americans watched some HBO show last week, fascinated and entertained, even so Jonah spent a couple days in the belly of a fish, except HBO is there for money, Jonah was there for the truth.)

    To change the subject, Greg Cochran is a go-to guy on why advanced civilizations "do not self-destruct", he has described why our perceptions of the world reach, or tend to, a healthy equilibrium, because that is how our consciousness functions (in a post that I have not been able to find), and he has also said a lot of true things (in my humble opinion) about how civilizations (and, even in the last 4,000 years that I think we have lived, and a fortiori in the dozens of thousands of years Cochran thinks modern humans have lived), there have been a lot of civilizations, not the ten or twenty you might think if you just think of "Roman" and "Hittite" and "Babylonian" and "Chinese" and so on, but exponentially more than that.

    Thanks for reading. I am not a performance artist I really think Adam and Eve loved each other, and had those bickering children we read about. Sad! But also, if I am right, felix peccatum (oh happy fault) = the world is a better place than the most enthusiastic and most gifted mere scientist would feel comfortable claiming that it is. ((**God loves us the way we are, even the physicists, but loves us too much to let us stay that way**)) (a slightly modified quote from "Junebug", a movie from a decade or two ago).

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  • In my infamous column “The Talk, Nonblack Version” at TakiMag, six years ago this month, I introduced the ad hoc abbreviation IWSB for “Intelligent and Well-Socialized Blacks.” I then advised the nonblack youth of America as follows: I can’t really claim to have been very energetic about taking my own advice here, but there is...
  • @Corvinus
    "If you believe in HBD, and you like the type of society that whites have typically built..."

    No, it's people who have built society. More specifically in the case of the United States, it was different ethnic groups, in particular those from Europe. Listen, if you want whites to take credit for everything grand in the world, then you must be willing to accept that whites have also caused a tremendous amount of disruption and destruction.

    "This change is not reversible in any realistic and ethical solution that I’ve heard. Further, because it is happening to practically every Western society, there isn’t an obvious backup plan for whites who want to live in a typical white society."

    It's not a "typical white society", it's just a society.

    Now, I am asking for a friend--Is it OK for white people to exercise their freedom of association to make their own decisions about race and culture without being labeled a "cuck" or "race traitor"?

    Is it OK for white people to exercise their freedom of association to make their own decisions about race and culture without being labeled a “cuck” or “race traitor”?

    Why would one ask such a question in the first place? Any decision I make on those topics is my goddamn business. The correct (Always!) response to any accusation of “race traitor” is “Go fuck yourself.” The correct (Always!) response to any accusation of “cuckiness” is “Go fuck yourself, you ignorant asshole.”

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • @Rurik

    a Clinton presidency would have been much worse.
     
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/24/article-0-1C8880B200000578-682_634x468.jpg

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    Yeah. Sociopath. Gives me the shivers. Bill is the same, but conceals it better. I mean, WTF, the guy had state troopers bringing him any pussy he spotted on his lunch break. Jesus, the rejects this country brings to the White House … it’s a wonder there’s anything left of this country at all.

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    it’s a wonder there’s anything left of this country at all.
     
    spiritually, there isn't

    just as morally, the ZUSA is a dead husk. This country has absolutely zero credibility or standing in the world anymore. All they've got is a military they can use to menace and bully the rest of the planet into submission. Which is a specialty of the Clintons.

    It's wasn't just the Branch Dravidians who were burned alive (no doubt to the cackling of the war hag), or just Gadhafi who was murdered by her sub-human orcs, but this man also had his country illegally bombed and was dragged off to a mock kangaroo court until he was given a chance to speak, whereupon he humiliated his tormentors

    http://www.foxnews.com/images/131842/0_21_milosevic_slobodan.jpg

    so they poisoned him in his cell.

    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/august/03/milosevic-exonerated-as-the-nato-war-machine-moves-on/

    http://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/H3B32s.gif

    the reason I post this image of the hag is to remind readers of what the alternative to Trump actually was.

    Fred likes to fulminate over all things Trump (and us Deplorables - calling us 'gas station louts, and much worse ; ), for his own dubious agenda (biological warfare ; ), but the fact remains that even as Trump adopts all the traits of a neocon war pig, and always has been an egotistical and superficial man, he's still a gazillion times to the n'th power preferable to the gorgon war hag.

    For all of Trump's many foibles and failings, he isn't the root cause of all the things Fred is lambasting in this article. Rather it's the ((deepstate)) that Trump has made a devil's bargain with, which does not change with presidents. If we're ever to prevent the looming war with Russia, then it would behoove us to look behind the curtain at the fiend pulling the levers. Talking about Trump, as if he's the cause of it all, is like being enthralled over the theatrics of the wizard of Oz.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Qt4NtJWEy3Q/T7Fo6M31IGI/AAAAAAAAAJc/P3xH9DHTmCI/s1600/great-powerful-oz.jpg

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  • @Gregorio
    Were J.D. Salinger and Kurt Vonnegut just "amoral" or "actually sadistic" ?

    Vonnegut was an honorable man, and good writer. Salinger was a hack.

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    I bin einverstanden .... “the catcher on the rye” has got to be the biggest fraud ever pulled on the so called literate America A story about a smarmy rich preppie and his angst was just so much dribble on the reading public. Then the/morons who teach in our public schools foisted this crap on the youth of America . Kein wunder that Salinger spent the rest of his life in seclusion ; he must have been ashamed .
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  • @seeing-thru
    Copying-in Achmed Newman as well...

    Aye, clobbering time it may well come to. But pray do not leave out the media whores when loving ministrations are being meted out. The whole bunch of these lying, whoring, war drumbeating progeny of Satan need special ministrations, perhaps even more care than the flying monkeys. Stringing these bastards upside down from meat hooks in public squares may be too ordinary a ministration, so better and brighter ideas need to be supplied by minds keener than mine.

    Stringing these bastards upside down from meat hooks in public squares may be too ordinary a ministration, so better and brighter ideas need to be supplied by minds keener than mine.

    Oh, I don’t have any, er, revolutionary ideas as to what to do with those who are pleasured to call themselves “journalists”, “reporters”, “media”. I am constantly reminded of Marsha Hancock of McCalla Elementary fame. …. (hand raised, simpering moue evinced)… “Mrs. Arbuckle, after lunch, three boys were looking through your desk drawers … it was Steve Gilson’s idea…”

    How to address it? Perhaps a variation on the scene from Marathon Man …. “Is it safe?”

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    I just read that column yesterday, Steve. He lays it out pretty good.

    Maybe so, huh?
     
    No doubt in the world.

    No doubt in the world.

    Yes, but the order of magnitude ebbs. Not that I would make the trade, but dammit, what happened to America? We’ve been fucked, and fucked ROYAL, yet all that climbs out of the political woodwork is flying monkeys.

    It’s clobbering time.

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    Copying-in Achmed Newman as well...

    Aye, clobbering time it may well come to. But pray do not leave out the media whores when loving ministrations are being meted out. The whole bunch of these lying, whoring, war drumbeating progeny of Satan need special ministrations, perhaps even more care than the flying monkeys. Stringing these bastards upside down from meat hooks in public squares may be too ordinary a ministration, so better and brighter ideas need to be supplied by minds keener than mine.
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  • In my infamous column “The Talk, Nonblack Version” at TakiMag, six years ago this month, I introduced the ad hoc abbreviation IWSB for “Intelligent and Well-Socialized Blacks.” I then advised the nonblack youth of America as follows: I can’t really claim to have been very energetic about taking my own advice here, but there is...
  • @Yan Shen
    Well considering that non-Hispanic whites are still something like 61-62% of the general population, I'm not sure where you're getting that 40% from.

    I also have no idea where you're getting this 10 million per year crossing the border since 1980 from Mexico. By my math, that comes out to over 280 million over the past 28 years. Mexico's current population is somewhere around 128 million and I'd guess that substantially lower than 280 million Mexicans have ever even been alive between 1980-2018, given that Mexican death rates have averaged somewhere around 5 per 1000 population over the past 15 plus years or so. Plus, wouldn't we kinda know if the actual number of illegals in this country was almost 300 million or so, a number fairly close to the officially reported legal population of 325 million?

    https://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=mx&v=26

    Blogger Steve Sailer made the observation that America's modern day Social Justice Jihadis, unlike the Chinese Cultural Revolutionaries of yore, generally speaking tended to be innumerate. I think in the spirit of my most recent article pointing out that right-wing whites are just as bad as the politically-correct left in many respects, we should also point out that many white nationalist types have no real sense for numbers either...

    we should also point out that many white nationalist types have no real sense for numbers either…

    Golly, we sure could, couldn’t we? And we might also point out that effulgently self-admiring Orientals might be peddling all kindsa bullshit, nie?

    Is that sufficiently invidious for ya, D00D? Golly jeepers, Andy, my naivete must be like, asymptotic, D00D.

    FYI, or not, as the case may be, do you actually believe the stats the gubmint provides with respect to who’s illegal, who’s here, and who’s not?

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  • @Yan Shen
    I absolutely agree with you that one of the biggest concerns for this country a few decades down the line will be how America operates once blacks and Hispanics become the combined majority in this country. What kind of cultural ethos will America embody then? I'm extremely nervous about this as well.

    The problem is that this possibly looming disaster isn't exactly helped by all of the crazy shit that's going on in this country today, as evidenced by the rampant hordes of Social Justice Jihadis and various assorted right wing fanatics as well like the Richard Spencers and David Dukes of the world.

    http://www.unz.com/article/americas-cultural-revolution-the-obsession-with-self-esteem/

    Please give the above article a read. The author calls out right-wing whites for basically embodying the same self-destructive attitudes that the politically-correct left does. There's a clear cultural deficit in contemporary American society that transcends political and ideological boundaries.

    I for one don't want to live in a country where some bespectacled Korean guy is the only sane person in the entire building and everyone else is having talks with their children about how their fellow Americans of some other race are the most dangerous threat to their existence and well-being. That sounds like a pretty shitty low-trust society to live in.

    I absolutely agree with you that one of the biggest concerns for this country a few decades down the line will be how America operates once blacks and Hispanics become the combined majority in this country.

    Blacks and generic mexicans, combined, are already a majority. 40% + 13% = 53%. Get real, man, there are 80-100 million generic Mexicans, at least. 10 million per year crossing the border since 1980. It adds up. The government stats are pure lies, penciled-in by whatever current administration. All major cities in the US are heavily infested with illegals, mostly messicans, from the inner city out to the near ‘burbs. For any intent or purpose, the invasion has succeeded and it’s all over but for the granting of citizenship and voting rights. Ten years, and it will all be legal on paper, too. America is over.

    Messicans and blacks don’t mix. Not much, anyway. Mexicans are sufficiently sang-froid to simply put a Negro-extermination program into action. I find it a bit amusing that the alt-right’s night horrors of “feral blacks” are to be replaced by the reality of patiently-feral messicans.

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    Well considering that non-Hispanic whites are still something like 61-62% of the general population, I'm not sure where you're getting that 40% from.

    I also have no idea where you're getting this 10 million per year crossing the border since 1980 from Mexico. By my math, that comes out to over 280 million over the past 28 years. Mexico's current population is somewhere around 128 million and I'd guess that substantially lower than 280 million Mexicans have ever even been alive between 1980-2018, given that Mexican death rates have averaged somewhere around 5 per 1000 population over the past 15 plus years or so. Plus, wouldn't we kinda know if the actual number of illegals in this country was almost 300 million or so, a number fairly close to the officially reported legal population of 325 million?

    https://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=mx&v=26

    Blogger Steve Sailer made the observation that America's modern day Social Justice Jihadis, unlike the Chinese Cultural Revolutionaries of yore, generally speaking tended to be innumerate. I think in the spirit of my most recent article pointing out that right-wing whites are just as bad as the politically-correct left in many respects, we should also point out that many white nationalist types have no real sense for numbers either...

    , @attilathehen
    Are you Jewish?
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  • I’m not sure how this came about. There are now more Hispanics in America than African-Americans but TV ads show no evidence of Hispanic preferences. Similarly Asians in America and Jews don’t get this kind of treatment.

    I believe the explanation is very basic, very straightforward. The perception required of the public is that the 40% population bloc that is mestizo/mexican does not exist. That is, that mexicans constitute less than the 13% “black” population bloc readily and repeatedly attributed by the Noose Media.

    This misperception, and deliberate outright deception, is being directed at Negros as primary target, whites secondarily. Both are being replaced, but the MSM has already convinced the white minority that being replaced is the “right thing”.

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  • Disordered thoughts on the National Cockatoo’s latest antics. One: The aghastment and horrilation about the terrible, appalling, shocking etc nature of gas warfare is nonsense. There is nothing unusually hideous about the use of toxic chemicals. Hideous, yes, but not unusually hideous. Boring old workaday artillery, that nobody criticizes, leaves children watching as mommy frantically...
  • I suspect Goad is verboten on UR, but allow me to excerpt from “I Didn’t Vote for This” of recent Goad production.

    I voted for Trump because he promised to build a wall. Fifteen months into his presidency, the wall has not been built.

    He promised to repeal Obamacare. It has not been repealed.

    He promised to focus on domestic rather than foreign issues and pledged a huge program to rebuild the nation’s crumbling infrastructure. No such program has materialized.

    He promised to remove the nation’s millions of illegal aliens. They are still here.

    He promised to defund sanctuary cities. They have not been defunded.

    He promised a complete ban on new Muslim immigration.

    He promised to eliminate the massive federal debt in eight years. Rather than even beginning to leave a dent in the debt, it is now over $1.1 trillion higher than it was the day he took office.

    One of the keystones of his campaign was that China was a currency manipulator and therefore needed to be dealt with harshly. Only three months into his presidency, he reneged and declared that China was not a currency manipulator.

    On the campaign trail, he relentlessly hammered the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Only three days into his presidency, he withdrew the US from the TPP. And now he’s openly considering rejoining it.

    Cogent points, in Reed’s context. The only consolation is recognition that a Clinton presidency would have been much worse. Maybe so, huh?

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    I just read that column yesterday, Steve. He lays it out pretty good.

    Maybe so, huh?
     
    No doubt in the world.
    , @Rurik

    a Clinton presidency would have been much worse.
     
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/24/article-0-1C8880B200000578-682_634x468.jpg

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    , @Pat Kittle
    Why do you "suspect Goad is verboten on UR"?
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  • Wednesday morning, President Trump jolted the nation with a tweet that contained both threat and taunt: "Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and 'smart!' You shouldn't be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and...
  • @Jonathan Mason
    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    [Lord Acton]

    Whatever happened to checks and balances? It seems like Trump is writing the checks and his balance is overdrawn. It is time he was bounced from office. Men in white coats need to carry him off to be locked up in Trump Tower.

    It is time he was bounced from office.

    Won’t make any difference. The foreign policy of the United States is controlled and dictated by Israel/neocons/MSM. No matter who is the president, the war on Muslim countries will continue to appease Israel. The congress is controlled by AIPAC. The US is controlled by Adlemans and Sabans of this country.

    Unless the people of the United States rise up and take back control of their country this carnage will continue. They need to throw out everyone of the Washington politician to send the message to elected representatives; either they serve the people of the United States or they don’t serve at all.

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!

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    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!
     
    Ain't that the truth?

    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people, and yet they would not think to question that the White House is defending us all by bombing foreigners.

    With all the talk of "crisis actors" and "false flag" operations, there is really no knowing what the truth of the matter is, as We the People are whipsawed with snippets of information and fake news from unreliable sources.

    The tragedy is that we have a President who rails against fake news, and yet he seems to be the most avid consumer of it in the whole government.

    And still the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss is why the immigrant newspaper baron Rupert Murdoch is being allowed to dictate the national agenda and place his henchmen as advisors to our poor, goofy President.

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  • The obvious and intelligent course regarding immigration from the south is to stop further influx and assimilate those who are not going away and, being citizens, cannot be deported. Mr. Trump’s placing of troops along the border, if carried out, can quickly and practically accomplish the first of these, as his silly wall would not....
  • @RicoT

    2. Living in the US as an illegal alien is a crime.
     
    No it isn't. Entering improperly is a crime, though. IF I am wrong, cite to the law which supports your claim.

    enforce the law regarding fruit of the poisoned tree
     
    HAHAHAHAHA! More ignorance. This is a metaphor regarding the admissibility of evidence, and has nothing to do with immigration law.

    Oh, brother. Don’t bullshit me, Rico. An illegal is an illegal is an illegal. If you wish to split hairs over the precise rule or regulation that is being broken by an illegal standing on the median of I-83 at 4:30AM on a Monday, be my guest. But don’t waste my time with your bullshit. He or she is an invading alien who must either be killed, imprisoned, or deported forthwith.

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  • @Jonathan Revusky

    Spare me your theories on family relationships and angry white men.
     
    SPARE YOU?????!!!!

    I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU, YOU SCUMBAG! I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE! YOU WERE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE CONVERSATION!!!????

    I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU, YOU SCUMBAG! I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE! YOU WERE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE CONVERSATION!!!????

    Welcome to forum software that has no “Private Message” function.

    You sure are an excitable little fella. Calm down. You can bullshit if you like, but it’s a forum. Someone is bound to tell you that you’re just bullshitting.

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  • Recently, YouTube suddenly shut down the If Americans Knew YouTube channel. This contained 70 videos providing facts-based information about Israel-Palestine. People going to the channel saw a message telling them that the site had been terminated for “violating YouTube guidelines”—implying to the public that we were guilty of wrongdoing. And ensuring they didn’t learn about...
  • @jeff davis
    The Israeli "art students" -- Mossad -- were in the US to monitor and chaperone the coming 911 attack. The wanted it to succeed. They were ready to help. Perhaps they did help. They certainly danced in celebration on the day of the attack. The Zionist state is no friend of the US. In fact, it is no friend to anyone.

    Their are many problems confronting the Zionists in their information war. Among them:

    (1) Though very well organized, the Zionists effort is vastly outnumbered: thirty million Jews worldwide vs seven billion non-jews.
    (2) Though control of the mass media once enabled the dominance of the Zionist "narrative" (ie the big lie), the internet and smart phone cameras have ended that monopoly. It's very nearly impossible to convince someone of a lie when they already know the truth and witness it daily with their own (lying?) eyes.
    (3) The underlying mental defect of garrison state, siege-mentality Zionism, that more violence will somehow solve the problem.
    (4) The decline of American power in the world, the decline of American support for Israel, growing awareness of disproportionate Israeli influence (ie "subversion") of the American political system, and the decline of support for Israel by the younger generation of American Jews.
    (5) Other factors you might wish to add.

    And one last thing: I'm an American and a Jew, just not a supporter of criminal Zionism.

    (1) Though very well organized, the Zionists effort is vastly outnumbered: thirty million Jews worldwide vs seven billion non-jews.

    Irrelevant. Money buys votes, money buys support, money buys censorship, money buys total media control.

    Money wins, thus Israel wins. Every time.

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  • Wednesday morning, President Trump jolted the nation with a tweet that contained both threat and taunt: "Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and 'smart!' You shouldn't be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and...
  • Quite weak sauce from Buchanan. Soma, basically.

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  • @KenH

    Trump is heading into a 60-day period that will go far to determine the fate of his presidency and the future of the Middle East.
     
    Indeed. If they media touted "blue wave" actually comes true the Democrats could regain most or all of the seats they lost under Hussein Obama and Trump's broken promises and the channeling of his inner Dubya on foreign policy will be partly responsible for that.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    The cruise missile strike of 2017 sent all the wrong messages as the anti-Trump (((media))) swooned, Israel cheered, his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we're told) and even little (((Willy Kristol))) batted his eyelashes at the Donald. So the positive reinforcement he received from his past reckless behavior towards Syria doesn't bode well.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    Both. While I accept there was no choice but to deny megalomaniac Hillary Clinton the power of the Presidency, Trump has moved from runner-up to first place in all categories. As horrible may be the thought of an evangelical jesus-freak, such as Pence, in the Oval Office, Trump has managed through gross incompetence to make Pence preferable.

    And may God have mercy on us all.

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  • We are currently living the most dangerous days in human history. You think that this is hyperbole? Think again. We are risking a nuclear Armageddon The first thing to realize is that this is not, repeat, not about Syria or chemical weapons, not in Salsbury, not in Douma. That kind of nonsense is just “mental...
  • @hunor
    " what price for the collapse of the empire "

    mr saker all this melancholic analysis is a very interesting read , one has to give you that , but analysis is theory, not understanding.
    for there to be understanding , one has to ask the correct question because incorrect question
    can not possible have correct answer. / how about that for understanding?/.
    in this case the correct question is , what is the empire ??? , what makes it function ? under what
    circumstances can it function ?
    in this case the empire is a structure of 320 million carbon units.
    conflict of interest in this structure must be maintained in order to function
    under what circumstances can this structure be compromised ?
    when the desire for safety and wellbeing of this structure is shocked, interrupted or damaged.
    translate that to our challenges of the day in the Syrian standoff.
    in the Syrian conflict it does not matter who or how many will fall, the only thing matters
    from the point of view of the empire is how many thousand of body bags needed on the very first days of the conflict , after number of warship is destroyed, but the real kick comes when satellite services are destroyed , no I phone to follow the circus and no bread to be delivered
    the 320 million carbon unit will be on the street demanding the safety and wellbeing they once had.
    on that day the empire will collapse like a house of cards.
    one unfortunate carbon unit must pray for Vladimir vladimirovic , and hope he has understanding
    not just theory.

    Oh, for Christ’s sake! Apply grammar rules, you self-indulgent little nitwit! Write like you intend to make sense instead of blithering nonsense.

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    This is your chance Steve, demonstrate how to make sense the none nitwit way. Please
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  • The obvious and intelligent course regarding immigration from the south is to stop further influx and assimilate those who are not going away and, being citizens, cannot be deported. Mr. Trump’s placing of troops along the border, if carried out, can quickly and practically accomplish the first of these, as his silly wall would not....
  • @Pat Kittle
    Fred now says serious immigration control is fine but don't deport illegals already here.

    Does anyone recall him saying this BEFORE the alien invasion became a catastrophe??

    Fred now says serious immigration control is fine but don’t deport illegals already here.

    Does anyone recall him saying this BEFORE the alien invasion became a catastrophe??

    Well, yes, indirectly. His position has reliably been one of belief that the mexican invasion is doing us all a lot of good. Good people, good for America, good for the future prosperity of the American United States of the Western Hemisphere, etc.

    I’m not one for insisting that your Generic Mexican is Evil Incarnate, but how does that make a wholesale invasion by millions upon millions of non-assimilating generic mexicans into a “good thing”? 50 million generic mexicans are an economic burden on the middle class American. Certainly, the mexican substandard wage schedule is a boon to the nation-destroying greed of the wealthy class, but again, “good thing for America”? I don’t see it.

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    I think you missed my point.

    Fred lately pays lip service to the idea that serious immigration enforcement is fine with him, just don't deport illegals already here.

    My point is that I don't recall him EVER saying that until very recently, AFTER the invasion is already reaching critical mass.

    BTW, I don't "hate Mexicans" or anyone else (with the possible exception of genocidal chicken-hawk war-mongers for "Greater Israel").

    We are extremely over-crowded already. We don't need any more humans, even if they're all poster-child perfect (which they are NOT).

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  • @Jonathan Revusky
    Does a man talk like this?

    Well, of course not. You're obviously somebody who just never grew up.

    "Free speech" isn't about letting a bunch of children disrupt an adult conversation.

    Does a man talk like this?
    Well, of course not. You’re obviously somebody who just never grew up.
    “Free speech” isn’t about letting a bunch of children disrupt an adult conversation.

    Oh, now, Jonny, be honest. Free speech is about having an intelligent discussion. A “conversation” is a cocktail party convention, the only “adult” part being a requirement for a fake ID to get booze. Furthermore, being “subtle and nuanced”, if and when there may be such a requirement (and, seriously, how often do you go all subtle and nuanced, and what good does it do?), amounts to subtlety and nuance only in the mind of he who subtleizes and nuances.

    Intelligent discussions require some measure of fact, some attempt at analysis, and perhaps some element of dialectics — Hegelian, Socratic or otherwise.

    Intelligent discussions do not develop from adolescent maundering, nor from equally adolescent challenges to masculinity or maturity.

    Hey, so you’re having a weak week, fine. But, if you want intelligent discussion, start with the elements of one. Spare me your theories on family relationships and angry white men.

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    Spare me your theories on family relationships and angry white men.
     
    SPARE YOU?????!!!!

    I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU, YOU SCUMBAG! I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE! YOU WERE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE CONVERSATION!!!????
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  • @Jonathan Revusky
    Well, look, this is a very complex conversation if one wants to engage in it in a serious manner and most likely, you're just here for light entertainment anyway. But look, to really break this whole thing down and discuss it, you have to separate out various issues. What you are saying is actually waaaay too simplistic.

    For starters...

    What we do in our personal lives does not necessarily absolutely reflect our ideological beliefs. Some of that is good old-fashioned hypocrisy but there are other nuances to consider. For example...

    I might choose to live in a very "multicultural" environmental like central London or Paris, say, simply because that is what I personally prefer. Maybe because I find it more stimulating and interesting. However, I still could perfectly well recognize that the majority of British or French people do NOT want that. And I also could recognize that these people have the right to preserve the world that they know and they don't want their own local town to be flooded with immigrants from all over the world.

    So I could perfectly well believe that Hungary's government has every right to decline to take in all the various refugees because they have the right to preserve their demographic status quo. Yet I also might not want to live in the resulting white ethno-state myself because maybe I would find it boring.

    If Derbyshire, let's say, marries a Chinese woman (which he did) and then moves off and lives happily ever after in China (which he didn't... yet...) that is his personal choice based on his personal preferences, but if he then defends the right of more conventional white folks to be.... well,... conventional white folks, it's not clear that there is such an absolute contradiction. Or, Fred Reed, based on the various parameters at that juncture in his life, decided to go live in Mexico and then married a woman he met there. Him doing that is not necessarily tantamount to his saying that everybody should do what he did or thinking that everybody wants that for himself.

    One problem here is that this site has basically devolved into being basically some sort of nasty "angry white man" site so you've got all these assholes here who just can't navigate any kind of nuance. So it's just: "You married a Chinese woman, so you're a cuck!" "You live in Mexico and seem to like Mexicans okay, so you must be anti-white!" One thing you notice is that they react in an absolutely hostile way to Fred Reed saying anything positive about Mexico, because, for them, if you don't utter despise other peoples, then you're anti-white or a cuck or something. This is the level that these people are at.

    So, anyway, the issue is much more subtle and nuanced than what you are presenting. Even things that are more clear cases of outright hypocrisy still need to be broken down. Say you have the case of a moralistic preacher who writes eloquent sermons about marital fidelity and then it turns out the guy has a long-time affair with his secretary. Well.... that case is more like good old hypocrisy, but I would still make the point that this does not, in and of itself, mean that the ideals expressed in the guy's sermons are wrong. Nor does it even mean that he doesn't believe in all that on some level. That he doesn't live up to the ideals that he expresses because... well, he's human... that's another matter. We understand this.

    The issue I brought up that you are skirting around is the propriety of delving into somebody's personal life from behind a cloak of anonymity. You talked of your "inner circle" and so on. But you're clearly referring to a case where people who are well acquainted with one another are engaging face to face. So it's not like you're getting on somebody's case over talking all negritude but having a white girlfriend and so forth WHILE hiding the details of your own life.

    The other person presumably knows all the details of you life as well, right? And then probably can turn it around on you with things about YOUR life!

    A key issue here is just the asymmetry of the whole thing here!

    I haven't had this stuff of people delving into my family or anything, but I have enough experience here of people talking to me in a very personal kind of way from behind a mask, while I'm completely forthright about who I am. I find it pretty disturbing and really quite improper and I think most people would feel the same way I do. It's really NOT normal. If you (and others here) honestly cannot grasp this basic issue, it might be simply because you've never been in that position.

    But anyway, I don't know of any other place on the Internet where the kind of stuff that happens here is tolerated. So, okay, maybe everybody else is marching out of step. I think this website has a real problem with this kind of thing.

    It's part of a bigger problem though. The site is increasingly just some "angry white man" site for venting, more than a real intellectual venue. My feeling is that, to get things back on the rails, if one really wanted this to be more a serious site for intellectual discussion, the whole assholery issue would have to be dealt with.

    Assholery and douchebaggery are not what free speech is about.

    [sigh]

    Spare us, please. Well, spare me, anyway. Go write something for Parents Magazine. Feel better.

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    Does a man talk like this?

    Well, of course not. You're obviously somebody who just never grew up.

    "Free speech" isn't about letting a bunch of children disrupt an adult conversation.
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  • President Trump is so pissed off by the Stormy affair that he is likely to prefer a good old war to another humiliation. This suits his enemies and friends (though not his voters) to a tee. He has a choice of doing a difficult manly act that needs all his courage, but which one? Should...
  • @Felix Keverich
    The Jews, who run US foreign policy, may not care about American lives, but they care about survival of Israel.

    The Jews, who run US foreign policy, may not care about American lives, but they care about survival of Israel.

    Israel establishes ALL policies legislated by the US Congress, and dictates all actions of the US federal government — state and local policy being influenced more by local money, much of which is a penumbra of Israel.

    Israel wants Syria. It’s that simple. Russia has frustrated that desire, and Israel’s puppet, the USA, will be directed to move Russia out of the way.

    Hilarity ensues.

    After Syria, Iraq. You betcha America will do its damndest to deliver all the ME to Israel. There is, after all, an expiration date on America. Israel must use America without mercy until it is exhausted of all resources, reduced to mexicanity.

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    It is not that Israel establishes America's foreign policy. It is that the basic world view produced by WASP culture is naturally aligned with Jewish thought in most ways, especially in terms of Empire: ruling the world.

    That is so because Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces culture that not merely is pro-Jewish, but that leads people to act and think like Jews without their awareness. Like all ideas, Judaizing heresy bears fruit.

    You cannot solve the Jewish problem without also solving the WASP problem.
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  • The obvious and intelligent course regarding immigration from the south is to stop further influx and assimilate those who are not going away and, being citizens, cannot be deported. Mr. Trump’s placing of troops along the border, if carried out, can quickly and practically accomplish the first of these, as his silly wall would not....
  • @Twodees Partain
    Yeah, I hate when their rhetoric is bomb blast. Those bomb blastic guys are hard to convince, you know?

    Yeah, I hate when their rhetoric is bomb blast. Those bomb blastic guys are hard to convince, you know?

    LOL. Well, he does call himself “simple”.

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    I must admit it was "simple" of me to make such a post. As I remarked to Tweedy, I must had had my head up my ass. Next time I'll make better use of my review time.
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  • @StephenH
    @Steve Gittelson

    "Who decides, and who moderates the Moderators?"

    The blog's owner decides. For example, check out the Saker's blog: http://thesaker.is/moderation-policy/

    The blog’s owner decides. For example, check out the Saker’s blog: http://thesaker.is/moderation-policy/

    Gee, ya think? Just FYI, I don’t read “the Saker”, and remain blissfully free from whatever influence he may be projecting.

    I operated forums for twelve years. People insult each other with varying degrees of skill, and using varying methodologies. That’s what people do. No matter what measures a forum moderator takes, some degree of insult will trickle through.

    In my opinion, moderators should have the discretion to delete any post containing ad hominem invective. Just delete such, outright. Let the nasty, insulting poster figure out a way to say it without attacking the character, morals, birthright legitimacy, etc. of the offending targeted person. It makes for better dialog when standard forms of vituperation are disallowed. Opinions, values, arguments, reasoning, etc. should be subject to attack. The person, never.

    Now, I will concede that moderators, traditionally, have not been known for their ability to distinguish ad hominem from what may, in fact, be their own opinions as well as those of the person writing the ad hominem.

    As my Mom frequently points out, we live in a fallen world. That being said, I see no good reason not to raise it up a bit, given what few opportunities we might have to do so.

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  • President Trump is so pissed off by the Stormy affair that he is likely to prefer a good old war to another humiliation. This suits his enemies and friends (though not his voters) to a tee. He has a choice of doing a difficult manly act that needs all his courage, but which one? Should...
  • @AndrewR
    Frankly, I don't really even care if there is a nuclear war. Despite near-universal literacy rates, near-universal internet access and near-infinite information availability, most people are politically ignorant and apathetic, and most of the non-apathetic [pathetic?] people unconditionally worship Israel and/or reflexively hate Putin and Assad. Even highly "educated" people overwhelmingly tend to buy into one of the two mainstream [read: harmful not just to US interests but world peace overall] narratives on foreign policy.

    So screw it. Let them nukes rain down. Sweet Schadenfreude will be my last feeling before putting a slug through my brain stem [I live in a place which would a low-priority target].

    So screw it. Let them nukes rain down. Sweet Schadenfreude will be my last feeling before putting a slug through my brain stem [I live in a place which would a low-priority target].

    Thanks for sharing, Friedrich.

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    Oh, fuck off, Steve. Your constant finger-wagging is tiresome.
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  • At least since the time of Marcus Tullius Cicero in the late Roman Republic everyone has certainly understood that politicians lie all the time. To be sure, President Donald Trump has been exceptional in that he has followed through on some of the promises he made in his campaign, insisting periodically that he has to...
  • @Dave Bowman
    Bravo, indeed, Annamaria. Beautiful, perfect, resounding, harsh, unforgiving words for a pair of worthless human vermin masquerading as civilised, intelligent professionals with a moral compass.

    The pair of them - and the entire wide set and grouping of their self-loathing, White-hating racist political henchmen, hangers-on, groupies, freeloaders and Labour party pirates and race traitors who have brought my nation to the brink in every possible way should be publicly hanged and left to rot.

    Better still that none of the Moslem-loving filth had ever been born.

    Moslem-loving filth

    I appreciate your sentiments Dave, but I’d offer that there isn’t anything ‘Moslem-loving’ about Blair or his stripe.

    The reason Muslims are overrunning many parts of England (and Sweden and Germany and France and elsewhere) isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations (of Muslims and Africans and S. Americans and everybody else they can get) into all Western nations are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.

    They’d use Martians if that was all that was available in order to see England destroyed, and sent reeling into a nightmare, Orwellian dystopia.

    Orwell didn’t conjure the ‘inner party’ out of thin air. He saw it up close and personal, during the nascent Soviet-imposed genocide and slavery that England and the ZUS doomed the people of Eastern Europe to suffer under.

    All the psychotic manifestations of Ingsog were all glaringly visible to George, during the wars, and especially following the “liberation” of Germany.

    What Solomon Morel did to his many victims, he didn’t do out of revenge. They were innocent, often just children. He did what he did out of an expression of his pathologies; a need, an imperative to feel the pleasure it gave him to wield absolute power over others. As an end in itself. To not just make them suffer, but to make them know who was making them suffer. And then, compound their suffering.

    If Solomon were an aberration, and was prosecuted for what everyone knew he did, then that would imply a proscription upon his brand of ethnic sadism and cruelty. But he wasn’t prosecuted, rather he was allowed sanctuary and coddled.

    This is telling. It isn’t out of love for Muslims that they’re demanding the West open its gates. Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    This is telling. It isn’t out of love for Muslims that they’re demanding the West open its gates. Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.
     
    I'd like to second that and add that it's a twofer. By doing that, both Muslims and the rest of us goyim suffer gratuitously to satiate their insatiable barbarity.

    And they not only hate us but seem to loathe each other as well.
    , @Dave Bowman
    I understand your key point perfectly - and you're right, of course. Their deliberate, considered, ruthless, godless, degenerate evil is the overriding reason why a bullet in the head is simply far too good for these traitorous, nation-wrecking filth.
    , @Anonymous

    The reason Muslims are overrunning many parts of England (and Sweden and Germany and France and elsewhere) isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations (of Muslims and Africans and S. Americans and everybody else they can get) into all Western nations are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.

    They’d use Martians if that was all that was available in order to see England destroyed, and sent reeling into a nightmare, Orwellian dystopia.
     
    PRECISELY RIGHT.

    Never underestimate the raw, visceral hatred of Leftists who were disappointed in their revolutionary expectations of the "working class."
    , @edNels
    On the subject of Moslem affections having a lot to do, or being the driver of mass migrations, I agree that it seems like kind of over indulgently or something out of balance with other concerns like the well being of the countries etc.

    Just to update with a couple snippets:

    The reason…]
    …isn’t because the people doing it (the Blairs and Bushes) love Muslims. Hardly. Rather the motivations for the massive migrations …]
    …are motivated by a pure, incomprehensibly Satanic hatred for the people of the West.]
    Rather it’s out of raw hatred. A kind of all-consuming hatred that I know (thankfully) I’ll never comprehend.
     
    But doesn't it occur that it might be less pathological a plan to simply disable the bulk of human population by systematic death by a thousand cuts, starting with dumbing down and disabling the middle level ''journeyman'' everyday kind of bloke, and the culture that made modern mass society possible.

    Systemic depopulation, CULLING of the HUMANS!

    How would you go about it better than by a smooth moving ever advancing cinch on freedoms. pulling out the supports, pins, rugs beneath, RAMP it all DOWN, Bring it all Down!

    Novchok to the hindmost!

    Doesn't have to be crazy either, it might be a clever plan to restore a ratio of Man to Nature more sustainable in future times of less abundant resources… or AIR SPACE!
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  • Trump, like Obama are Zionist whores, who are assisted by a zionist controlled media to hide their treason.

    Obama was elected to stop wars, close Guantanamo, end spying on Americans, and support the Constitution. I mean Obama was a “Constitutional scholar” after all.

    And if you ask most democrats, that is exactly what he did , even though he did the exact opposite.

    Chump was an even greater lie, a sleazy real estate mogul from Jew York City, a self-proclaimed zionist, and Clinton friend, was sold as an “American firster and patriot”, and Steve Bannon, A GOLDMAN SACHS EMPLOYEE WAS A “WHITE NATIONALIST”! What a load of shit, yet so many Americans lapped it right up.

    Washington is 100% theater, all of it, not just the parts I don’t agree with. Americans have been divided, and cling to their hate for the other side, over their hate for the zionist jew rulers who have destroyed this country.

    Trump is a filthy immoral creature, perfect for the next phase of zionist destruction of America. Chump will never close the border, make friends with Russia, or do what is right for America, because his rulers HATE US, hate white Christian America, and will do anything to destroy us.

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  • The obvious and intelligent course regarding immigration from the south is to stop further influx and assimilate those who are not going away and, being citizens, cannot be deported. Mr. Trump’s placing of troops along the border, if carried out, can quickly and practically accomplish the first of these, as his silly wall would not....
  • @Twodees Partain
    "It was certainly nice of Federico Reedriguez to refer to my sensible comment rebutting his absurd Latinotriumphalist boilerplate."

    I suppose you mean this comment of yours:

    "13. Thorfinnsson says:
    March 20, 2018 at 11:29 pm GMT

    Why do you worship Mexicans so much, Federico?

    Surely Violeta or whatever the fuck her name is doesn’t have that good of a pussy. I mean you were in Viet Nam after all.

    Something in the water?"

    http://www.unz.com/freed/civil-insurrection/#comments

    Surely Violeta or whatever the fuck her name is doesn’t have that good of a pussy. I mean you were in Viet Nam after all.

    Edgy. Penetrating. Incisive. Analytical. Intellectual. Encompassing. Cerebral. Highbrow. Expository.

    There is no human characteristic, human behavior, more disgusting or indicative of profound moral incompetence than attacks on someone’s spouse.

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  • @StephenH
    Why evil? The owner of a blog has the right to allow anyone he pleases to comment and he has the right to exclude people he doesn't want. The Saker's blog uses volunteer moderators, and as a result his comboxes are not cluttered with low-level comments. Others, such as Paul Craig Roberts, got so tired of reading low-quality comments that he's discontinued comments altogether. That's his right. Those who disagree can start their own blogs.

    Why evil? The owner of a blog has the right to allow anyone he pleases to comment and he has the right to exclude people he doesn’t want.

    A right? Okay, let’s not quibble semantic value. Censorship quells dissent. Is that good? Foul language can be distasteful and distracting from any genuine content that may or may not be included. Who decides, and who moderates the Moderators?

    Where is virtue? In popularity? In majority opinion? In pretty words and pungent phrases? In interpreted words of God?

    You tell me.

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    @Steve Gittelson

    "Who decides, and who moderates the Moderators?"

    The blog's owner decides. For example, check out the Saker's blog: http://thesaker.is/moderation-policy/
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  • Recently, YouTube suddenly shut down the If Americans Knew YouTube channel. This contained 70 videos providing facts-based information about Israel-Palestine. People going to the channel saw a message telling them that the site had been terminated for “violating YouTube guidelines”—implying to the public that we were guilty of wrongdoing. And ensuring they didn’t learn about...
  • One more time. It’s not anti-semitism, it’s Counter-Semitism.

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    Ha ha! Good one.
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  • @Anon
    In the least, Unit 8200 used by Weir as an example of a sinister organozation fails to stand on its own merit since Unit 8200 per the article she linked, fights against ISIS. Elementary logic.

    In the least, Unit 8200 used by Weir as an example of a sinister organozation fails to stand on its own merit since Unit 8200 per the article she linked, fights against ISIS. Elementary logic.

    Flummery. Diversion. More bullshit.

    You said the article is delivered as “Truth, for many on this website, is only material that is 100% anti-Israel and anti-Jewish.”

    But, called on that misconstrual of fact, you segue with appeal to logic. What happened to appeals to logic the first time around, hasbarat scum?

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  • @Anon
    Israel fights against ISIS. Yet the state will also not turn its back on wounded ISIS fighters, as is required by the solemn pledge of the medical profession.

    Look at Weir's own link:

    http://www.bicom.org.uk/news/israeli-army-helped-prevent-isis-airline-bomb-plot/

    Truth, for many on this website, is only material that is 100% anti-Israel and anti-Jewish. Amazing!

    Truth, for many on this website, is only material that is 100% anti-Israel and anti-Jewish. Amazing!

    By implication, you are saying that Alison Weir’s article is lies.

    Gotcha, Israeli. Been watching you do shit like that since 1967.

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    In the least, Unit 8200 used by Weir as an example of a sinister organozation fails to stand on its own merit since Unit 8200 per the article she linked, fights against ISIS. Elementary logic.
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  • The obvious and intelligent course regarding immigration from the south is to stop further influx and assimilate those who are not going away and, being citizens, cannot be deported. Mr. Trump’s placing of troops along the border, if carried out, can quickly and practically accomplish the first of these, as his silly wall would not....
  • @Ron Unz

    Your own points are more cautiously argued and better supported with data, as is befitting your temperament. I largely accept your views on hispanic crime, though the actual situation in much of Latin America advises caution.
     
    Since you seem more open-minded and less fanatic than some of the other commenters here, if you haven't already done so, I suggest you read some of my major articles on exactly this subject. If you've spent years absorbing VDare-type nonsense, I suspect you'll find my own analysis quite eye-opening.

    Furthermore, the second and third articles actually outline my own proposed *solution* to the endless immigration-problem. You might not entirely agree with it, but I'd argue that it's the only one with a non-zero chance of actually being enacted into law and working:

    1999: http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

    2011: http://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    2016: http://www.unz.com/runz/a-grand-bargain-on-immigration-reform-2/

    If you'll notice, I've been basically saying the same thing for twenty years, and I think most of my predictions have been borne out reasonably well.

    Since you seem more open-minded and less fanatic than some of the other commenters here, if you haven’t already done so, I suggest you read some of my major articles on exactly this subject.

    Oh, I’ve read them. You are wrong for many reasons, the most standout of which is the simple fact that nations require rigorous enforcement of border security, no exceptions. No ifs, no ands, no buts.

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  • @StephenH
    @grapesoda

    You clearly are not mentally well, and you have a toilet mouth. It's a pity Ron allows so many mentally unbalanced fools to comment.

    You clearly are not mentally well, and you have a toilet mouth. It’s a pity Ron allows so many mentally unbalanced fools to comment.

    Yes, “grapesoda” is a dipshit, but your insistence that censorship be deployed as the default is the true evil.

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    Why evil? The owner of a blog has the right to allow anyone he pleases to comment and he has the right to exclude people he doesn't want. The Saker's blog uses volunteer moderators, and as a result his comboxes are not cluttered with low-level comments. Others, such as Paul Craig Roberts, got so tired of reading low-quality comments that he's discontinued comments altogether. That's his right. Those who disagree can start their own blogs.
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  • Recently, YouTube suddenly shut down the If Americans Knew YouTube channel. This contained 70 videos providing facts-based information about Israel-Palestine. People going to the channel saw a message telling them that the site had been terminated for “violating YouTube guidelines”—implying to the public that we were guilty of wrongdoing. And ensuring they didn’t learn about...
  • Israelis own almost all media. Thus, they control publishing, the Internet, TV, and radio broadcasting. Simple fact, and nothing can be done. Full corruption and dominance of the US government, Congress, judiciary, and the executive branch is in place and impossible to remove or even reduce.

    I remember 1994, when the Internet appeared for ordinary people to use, primarily on the “forum” side, as various alt.net incarnations. Virtually every one, even at that early point in time, was controlled and censored by Israelis.

    Nothing can, or will, be done. 1984 arrived a few years late, but more monstrous than Blair ever imagined.

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  • @silviosilver
    Lol, you sound very angry. And such a silly post.

    Yes, writers write. And when the writer of this article writes, he consistently demonstrates what a lying sack of shit he is.

    Time and again commenters have demolished his risible arguments, all to no avail.

    One eventually tires of it.

    One eventually tires of it.

    Yes, indeed. At which point one adds another ID to the Ignore List.

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  • @syonredux

    In Search of Intelligent Latin Policy
     
    Get with the times, Fred. Latinx carries the SJW imprimatur....

    Mexico is in fact chiefly European.
     
    Not in terms of race, Fred.......

    (The commenters express their own views only. The Unz Review, one of my favorite sites, is not of the Alt-Right. The owner, Ron Unz, lives in a heavily Mexican neighborhood of Silicon Valley and has repeatedly said that he finds them good people.)
     
    The rich man's POV, Fred. Ron is quite frank on this point: he likes having servile Mestizos around. They're less unruly than Blacks.

    The second are those who say I am a race traitor
     
    "Cuck" is the term used these days, Fred.

    and hate America,
     
    I think that it's clear that you, like JEB Bush, hate Anglo-America......

    The CIA Factbook put literacy at ninety-five percent.
     
    Using what standards?

    A brief Google check for bookstores (“librerias”) would provide a list of thirty in Guadalajara, mostly very good. This does not absolutely prove anything, but might make one think.
     
    Dunno, Fred:

    Even if baseline literacy, the ability to read a street sign or news bulletin, is rising, the practice of reading an actual book is not. Once a reasonably well-educated country, Mexico took the penultimate spot, out of 108 countries, in a Unesco assessment of reading habits a few years ago.

     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/opinion/the-country-that-stopped-reading.html

    “Cuck” is the term used these days, Fred.

    Pish. “Cuck” is what smarmy little pissants call people they regard as insufficiently militant in defense of some asinine, stupid, moronic, brainless, trendy cause celebre du jour. Basically, the white supremacist version of MSM coverage.

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    Cuck” is the term used these days, Fred.

    Pish. “Cuck” is what smarmy little pissants call people they regard as insufficiently militant in defense of some asinine, stupid, moronic, brainless, trendy cause celebre du jour. Basically, the white supremacist version of MSM coverage.
     
    Nah. It's the term of choice for guys who put the welfare of another people over their own. In Fred's case, he's a cuck on the Latinx question. He clearly has no objections to Anglo-America being overrun with Latinx.
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  • @Diversity Heretic
    Fred, when the urge to recycle columns such as this one seizes you, take two aspirin, or drink a Tecate beer (or two) or do whatever, until the urge passes. I read VDare regularly and your characterization of its content is highly inacccurate. You're good on other subjects, so don't embarass yourself by ones like these.

    Fred, when the urge to recycle columns such as this one seizes you, take two aspirin, or drink a Tecate beer (or two) or do whatever, until the urge passes. I read VDare regularly and your characterization of its content is highly inacccurate. You’re good on other subjects, so don’t embarass yourself by ones like these.

    This is the sort of shit that makes me just wanna reach out and push the “Flush” button on the toilet you’re sitting on. You useless, whiny piece of shit. STFU already.

    Writers write. Writers write for years and years. Writers write some good things, writers write some less than good things. Writers’ opinions change. Writers’ styles shift. Writers go on with life, and writers accept different attitudes and presumptions.

    All of that “writer” stuff is good things. That’s why we read what writers write.

    Now, what I want you to do is reach your hands up to your shoulders, clench your fingers around your buttocks, and push your ass off your head.

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    Steve, when the urge to write comments such as this one seizes you, take two aspirin, or drink a Tecate beer (or two) or do whatever, until the urge passes. Your own comment to Fred's column was quite rational, so don't embarass yourself with comments like this.

    Writers write and commenters comment!
    , @silviosilver
    Lol, you sound very angry. And such a silly post.

    Yes, writers write. And when the writer of this article writes, he consistently demonstrates what a lying sack of shit he is.

    Time and again commenters have demolished his risible arguments, all to no avail.

    One eventually tires of it.
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  • Again, the majority of Latins are not going to go away.

    Do you mean the majority of Latins residing in the USA?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    Ref. criminality of illegal aliens, keep in mind:

    1. Entering the US illegally is a crime.
    2. Living in the US as an illegal alien is a crime.
    3. Being employed in the US as an illegal alien is a crime.
    4. Employing illegal aliens is a crime.
    5. Property purchased by an illegal alien is the property of the state, as criminal product.

    Enforce the respective laws, and enforce the law regarding fruit of the poisoned tree, i.e. “birthright citizen” via illegally-obtained residence, and a lot of Latins are “going to go away”.

    Now, will that happen? Maybe, maybe not.

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    2. Living in the US as an illegal alien is a crime.
     
    No it isn't. Entering improperly is a crime, though. IF I am wrong, cite to the law which supports your claim.

    enforce the law regarding fruit of the poisoned tree
     
    HAHAHAHAHA! More ignorance. This is a metaphor regarding the admissibility of evidence, and has nothing to do with immigration law.
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  • It finally happened. In the last day or so, major mainstream voices condemned Israel’s shootings of unarmed Palestinian protesters on March 30, in which 17 were killed. Chris Hayes did it on MSNBC last night. “A frankly unconscionable use of force.” Ayman Mohyeldin of MSNBC called out the racism in the media’s indifference to the...
  • @deschutes
    Anybody who uses the terms 'leftard' or 'libtard' is a worthless, immature sack of shit. Sound like you're a 13 year old. Snarky, immature namecalling...reminds me of jr high school days, same level of maturity :-D

    Anybody who uses the terms ‘leftard’ or ‘libtard’ is a worthless, immature sack of shit. Sound like you’re a 13 year old. Snarky, immature namecalling…reminds me of jr high school days, same level of maturity

    [Amused smirk] Yeah, there’s a lot of that. It’s a form of virtue-signaling in the cult of white supremacy. Basically, a claim to being a member of the club.

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  • It’s the blecks (1): Guns. My biggest email bag of the month came after I hypothesized, in the March 23rd Radio Derb, that the enthusiasm white Americans display for owning guns, unusualamong Western nations, is connected to the other distinctive thing about our country: the presence in it, from the beginning, of a large black...
  • @Rufulus
    Suppose you had seet 1A and the free spirit had 2A. You are saying there is a 99% chance you end up in 1A.

    Now suppose you had 2A and he had 1A.

    *You would have both behaved exactly the same*

    Hence, is there still a 99% chance you end up in 1A? Clearly not (since that was his seat).

    Hence, is there still a 99% chance you end up in 1A? Clearly not (since that was his seat).

    While loading my trash collection into the pickup, in preparation for a Saturday trip to the dump (a people circus of huge dimension), I realized an effective explanation is much simpler.

    1. There are 100 seats.
    2. There are two sitters, A and B.
    3. A has an assigned seat.
    4. B may sit in any one of the 100 available.

    What is the probability that A will successfully claim, and sit, his assigned seat?

    Answer: 99%

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  • It finally happened. In the last day or so, major mainstream voices condemned Israel’s shootings of unarmed Palestinian protesters on March 30, in which 17 were killed. Chris Hayes did it on MSNBC last night. “A frankly unconscionable use of force.” Ayman Mohyeldin of MSNBC called out the racism in the media’s indifference to the...
  • Well, let’s not get carried away. Some “American” Jews do not regard themselves, and their true loyalty, as Israeli and loyal to Israel. Many do. Many are dual-passport holders who rape the USA economically and deliver the spoils to Israel, and their own offshore accounts.

    As the saying goes, this is nobody’s first rodeo. Nothing will change.

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  • Earlier by Charlottesville Survivor: THE SYSTEM REPUDIATED: City’s Own Report Confirms Charlottesville Police, Politicians Conspired To Suppress Unite The Right Rally The “Alt Right” is “self-destructing” according to the Daily Beast [Less Than A Year After Charlottesville, the Alt-Right Is Self-Destructing, by Kelly Weill, March 29, 2018]. Slavishly quoting hideous Heidi Beirich of the Southern...
  • @Pericles
    Well, I for one actually appreciate this short course in 'arguing like a Jew', so thank you. The reader may also see this phenomenon in action in those odd legal decisions that have been used to delay Trump.

    Well, I for one actually appreciate this short course in ‘arguing like a Jew’, so thank you. The reader may also see this phenomenon in action in those odd legal decisions that have been used to delay Trump.

    For the most part, there IS no argument — no presentation of facts countering the validity of a position. Read carefully, AaronB presents a sequence of arbitrary denials, not arguments. Much like the legal decisions are not arguments, but stipulations of “legal” inventions.

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  • @Okechukwu

    If Alt Right is just a nothinghippoburger, why did the Power muster all its resources to shut it down?
     
    I'd contest the degree to which "the power" targeted the alt-right. So far the authorities have been playing footie which them as their members and sympathizers cause havoc and murder people. But that's soon to change. Nevertheless, the world learned to excise this kind of cancer quickly before it metastasizes. Hitler started out with just a few guys.

    Also, if Alt Right is just a bunch of internet trolls, the Power would be far less alarmed. The fact is there is also a core of serious people who deal with real issues.
     
    The alt right are Internet trolls and so are you. We all know you wouldn't say the shit you say here in the real world under your real identity. Virtually 100% of Unz posters fall into the same category. We know the alt right is an almost exclusively Internet phenomenon by virtue of the minuscule numbers that show up at their events. If what they and you are offering is so seductive and so universally attractive, why do you hide?

    There was no danger of Alt Right creating a vast army to take over America or even win elections.
     
    You are correct there.

    But when the movement was on the verge of breaking through at Charlottesville, the power used all its muscle to shut it down.
     
    Break through how? Do you really think an organization that preaches overt white supremacy, naked racism, expulsion of non-whites, the dismemberment of the United States, ethnic cleasing and genocide is ever going to break through? Maybe you should adjust your meds.

    It wasn't that the powers that be shut down the alt right, it was that the alt right tried to transition their hate-mongering from the Internet onto the streets. Ordinary (mostly white) people shut them down, not some vast government action.


    LOL. I’m a race-ist but anti-Nazi. There are plenty of people like Ramzpaul who are ‘race realists’ and don’t go for neo-nazi stuff.
     
    Race realism is a laughable pseudoscience.

    You’re just PC in conflating anything related to White Identity with ‘neo-nazi’.
     
    But white identity is a racist, Neo-Nazi ideology. If you'll notice all white identitarians are racists and Neo-Nazis. So you ought to blame yourselves rather than those who are characterizing you accurately based on your words and deeds.

    No one begrudges the legitimate exercise of white ethic identity. We all love St. Patrick's day and other ethnic white traditions and festivals. No one cries racism when the Irish, Italians, Russians or even the British bask in their unique ethnic heritage. Because those celebrations and traditions aren't tied up with hatred and white supremacy in the way a nebulous white identity is.


    I suppose that makes Jewish nationalists a bunch of ‘neo-nazis’ too. And black nationalists in Africa are a bunch of Black Nazis. That is just dumb.
     
    Jews have been persecuted throughout history. The persecuted embrace nationalism as a defense and coping mechanism. In much the same way there is Irish and Scottish nationalism vis-a-vis England.

    The only black nationalism in Africa took root in those places where minority white regimes terrorized and exploited the people. Otherwise black nationalism doesn't exist in Africa. Africans have no real consciousness of being black or being part of some black bloc. They would only develop those sensibilities if they immigrate to the US, for example.


    As for ethno-states, that has been the dream of anti-imperialists. Ethno-nationalism is about wanting to be free from the Empire. Vietnamese fought for their ethno-state. Algerians kicked out the French. Africans kicked out Brits and French and Belgians. Currently, Europe is being invaded by black demographic imperialists like you who’ve messed up their own nations.
     
    An ahistorical, noncontextual and oversimplification survey of events, which is one of the prime hallmarks of those of your ideological persuasion. It's the reason you guys can't hold a serious discussion. Now, tell me, who would the Americans be fighting for their ethnostate? Who would the British fight? How about the French? Who is the established enemy that these countries have to fight in order to establish their ethnostates? The absurdity of the proposition should dawn on you if you ever ponder that question honestly.

    YOUR kind are demographic ethnic cleansers. You want to invade and demographically take over other nations because (1) you have too many babies in your own nation (2) and your kind turned your own nations to crap.
     
    Now isn't this rich? A beneficiary of of a legacy of real (as distinct from imagined) ethnic cleansing is accusing me of ethnic cleansing. Do you realize that there are more Europeans outside of Europe than in it. They are the only continental population with that distinction. They did not arrive like my parents -- dutifully obeying all the rules and all the laws, being granted permission to enter. No. They entered by force, guns blazing, often killing anything that moved, conducting real, tangible, actual ethnic cleansing.

    Also, you come to white lands and beat up weaker white guys and demand ‘where da white woman at?’ You want to reduce white men into cucky-wuck ‘white boys’ and colonize white wombs to make black babies.
     
    Haha. You have some funny material. Actually, I've been fucking white girls and women most of my life. Guess what, they wanted me more than I wanted them. What are you going to do about it? Why not worry about your own bedroom and your own probable erectile dysfunction?

    Their masters? Shiite! So, you are a troll!! You’re not even an African but some white guy pretending to be some spear-chucker at hippos. Okay, but I’ll play along as if you be what you claim to be.
     
    Russia supports and finances all sorts of fringe movements in the US, dummy. Don't take my word for it, look it up. They set up fake black nationalist organizations and fake gun rights organizations. Their goal is to create chaos. It's not out of the question that Russia created the alt right and/or directs its activities.

    What is ‘sensible’ immigration policy? You mean Paul Ryan and John McCain?
     
    Yes. We need immigration. My wife works in science lab. Virtually all here colleagues are foreign born like herself. You see, Americans want the easy hit and quick money. Who's going to do the critical work that Americans are either too lazy or too greedy to do? In fact we even need illegal immigration because I don't see your type willing to pick lettuce or scrub toilets.

    No, it was perfectly compatible with American values before globalists took over the US.
     
    Nope. America was always a conglomeration of different traditions: poly-European, African, Native American and Hispanic. I bet there are Spanish or Native American street names and other influences throughout your city.

    Also, whites had to keep blacks under control because blacks are stronger, more aggressive, wilder, and stuff.
     
    You are in the grip of 19th century pseudo-"science."

    As for blacks, ever since they were allowed to run free, they turned cities like Detroit, Baltimore, S. Louis, South Side of Chicago, and etc. Blacks got the bongo gene that is bad for civilization.
     
    This is some serious trolling. See, you people got into trouble when you abandoned your keyboards and echo-chambers and tried to take this kind of nonsense into the street. By all means, stay anonymous and stick to your keyboard. Don't let it out of your sight. Don't even think about leaving your house with this shit.

    No, Alt Right is not about white victimhood.
     
    Yes it is. The alt-right are grievance mongers and losers. Imagine being white in America (or anywhere in the world because there's even white privilege in non-white countries) and having everything teed up for you and still failing miserably. That's what's at the root of their angst and their frustration. They know they have every advantage by virtue of being white. Yet they see people like me not similarly advantaged who are lapping them, outperforming them, more successful than them. So they lash out. I'm the son of immigrants who came here with virtually nothing. I competed against white people whose families had built up wealth and resources for generations, people whose white skin gave them instant access to a vast range of opportunities, and I came out on top.

    Also, while it’s true that most of the successful people in America are white, they don’t care about white people, culture, or identity. Bill Gates and Tim Cook don’t give a crap about whites.
     
    In other words, they don't think like you. They have to be racist scumbags to be white in your eyes. Well, I'm afraid your criteria for being white represents too heavy a burden for any intelligent, decent and rational white person to bear. So of course you will continue to fail and fail and fail.

    But why did your African parents leave their own people/nation and decide to move to a nation founded and built by whites?
     
    Why did your people come to America? If whites have a magic wand that makes everything wonderful, why couldn't they make it work in Europe, which was REALLY built by whites, unlike America.

    And if you’re into African identity, why don’t you go back to Africa? We know why,and there is a recognizable pattern.
     
    Think for a moment. How am I going to have an African identity having been born and raised in America. Do you have a Polish or Irish identity?

    White people do things better, and blacks want to leech off whites.
     
    Yet it's whites that have been leeching off blacks for hundreds of years.

    White people do some things well and other things terribly. In the last few hundred years white people became very technologically oriented and they developed some great technology. But no greater than those that came before them without whose influence they might still be dumping feces out of windows and going lifetimes without ever bathing. Conversely, white people have been a deeply exploitative, genocidal and ruinous force that has decimated entire continents, including Europe itself.

    ******Whew******

    You blew up my troll key with that tirade.

    Are you Corvinus’ Mom?

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    Funny, isn't it, how this 'tard can launch a typical "hate whitey" spiel when he is so obviously white himself? It does serve to illustrate how jews use their racial claim of being a race other than white when it serves their purpose and later use their religious claim of being of a unique faith as explanation of their special identity when that suits their purpose.

    Ordinary white leftists jump right in, bashing white people as a race and thinking that they have the same "right" to do so as jews do. They forget that the other races will still see them as white.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You blew up my troll key with that tirade.

    Are you Corvinus’ Mom?
     
    Shades of Grendel, whose mom was far worse than he.

    Funny that the most accurate depiction of Anglo-Saxon sexual politics happens also to be the oldest one extant.
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  • It’s the blecks (1): Guns. My biggest email bag of the month came after I hypothesized, in the March 23rd Radio Derb, that the enthusiasm white Americans display for owning guns, unusualamong Western nations, is connected to the other distinctive thing about our country: the presence in it, from the beginning, of a large black...
  • Well, it’s more a case of me saying there are factors — real factors — other than projected possible scenarios, each such scenario entirely invented, entirely speculative as to end result, etc. Which is neither here nor there, but does support my opinion that such speculations are a complete waste of time.

    With respect to your most recent response:

    Now suppose you had 2A and he had 1A.

    *You would have both behaved exactly the same*

    Hence, is there still a 99% chance you end up in 1A? Clearly not (since that was his seat).

    My assigned seat was 2A. The question asks the probability I would end up in my assigned seat. The probability remains 99%; the tested event selects the 1% outcome. There is only ONE Free Spirit; there is only ONE “me”. The probability remains 99% that I will be in my assigned seat.

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  • @Joel Walbert
    @Steve Gittelson

    Considering a brutal war just fought and won over this exact issue. Its unfortunate, yet forgivable in 20-30 somethings and younger due to 'education' these days, but there is zero excuse for anybody over the age of 40 to even remotely questions the implications of that phrase.

    Considering a brutal war just fought and won over this exact issue. Its unfortunate, yet forgivable in 20-30 somethings and younger due to ‘education’ these days, but there is zero excuse for anybody over the age of 40 to even remotely questions the implications of that phrase.

    Or anyone having the benefit — however unlikely — of a “classic” education. I’ve noted that even ‘STEM’ graduates have, of late, begun to demonstrate the damages produced by the American “education system”. It certainly is a ‘system’, I’ll grant that.

    I was watching some “womens’ show” on TV, and I learned that US states actually have punitive legislation in place to prosecute parents who would allow their children to walk on streets, or play in parks. Or, god forbid, travel six blocks from home.

    It’s horrifying. No wonder the Millennials cannot parse reality. No exposure to it.

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  • Earlier by Charlottesville Survivor: THE SYSTEM REPUDIATED: City’s Own Report Confirms Charlottesville Police, Politicians Conspired To Suppress Unite The Right Rally The “Alt Right” is “self-destructing” according to the Daily Beast [Less Than A Year After Charlottesville, the Alt-Right Is Self-Destructing, by Kelly Weill, March 29, 2018]. Slavishly quoting hideous Heidi Beirich of the Southern...
  • @Okechukwu

    If Alt Right is just a nothinghippoburger, why did the Power muster all its resources to shut it down?
     
    I'd contest the degree to which "the power" targeted the alt-right. So far the authorities have been playing footie which them as their members and sympathizers cause havoc and murder people. But that's soon to change. Nevertheless, the world learned to excise this kind of cancer quickly before it metastasizes. Hitler started out with just a few guys.

    Also, if Alt Right is just a bunch of internet trolls, the Power would be far less alarmed. The fact is there is also a core of serious people who deal with real issues.
     
    The alt right are Internet trolls and so are you. We all know you wouldn't say the shit you say here in the real world under your real identity. Virtually 100% of Unz posters fall into the same category. We know the alt right is an almost exclusively Internet phenomenon by virtue of the minuscule numbers that show up at their events. If what they and you are offering is so seductive and so universally attractive, why do you hide?

    There was no danger of Alt Right creating a vast army to take over America or even win elections.
     
    You are correct there.

    But when the movement was on the verge of breaking through at Charlottesville, the power used all its muscle to shut it down.
     
    Break through how? Do you really think an organization that preaches overt white supremacy, naked racism, expulsion of non-whites, the dismemberment of the United States, ethnic cleasing and genocide is ever going to break through? Maybe you should adjust your meds.

    It wasn't that the powers that be shut down the alt right, it was that the alt right tried to transition their hate-mongering from the Internet onto the streets. Ordinary (mostly white) people shut them down, not some vast government action.


    LOL. I’m a race-ist but anti-Nazi. There are plenty of people like Ramzpaul who are ‘race realists’ and don’t go for neo-nazi stuff.
     
    Race realism is a laughable pseudoscience.

    You’re just PC in conflating anything related to White Identity with ‘neo-nazi’.
     
    But white identity is a racist, Neo-Nazi ideology. If you'll notice all white identitarians are racists and Neo-Nazis. So you ought to blame yourselves rather than those who are characterizing you accurately based on your words and deeds.

    No one begrudges the legitimate exercise of white ethic identity. We all love St. Patrick's day and other ethnic white traditions and festivals. No one cries racism when the Irish, Italians, Russians or even the British bask in their unique ethnic heritage. Because those celebrations and traditions aren't tied up with hatred and white supremacy in the way a nebulous white identity is.


    I suppose that makes Jewish nationalists a bunch of ‘neo-nazis’ too. And black nationalists in Africa are a bunch of Black Nazis. That is just dumb.
     
    Jews have been persecuted throughout history. The persecuted embrace nationalism as a defense and coping mechanism. In much the same way there is Irish and Scottish nationalism vis-a-vis England.

    The only black nationalism in Africa took root in those places where minority white regimes terrorized and exploited the people. Otherwise black nationalism doesn't exist in Africa. Africans have no real consciousness of being black or being part of some black bloc. They would only develop those sensibilities if they immigrate to the US, for example.


    As for ethno-states, that has been the dream of anti-imperialists. Ethno-nationalism is about wanting to be free from the Empire. Vietnamese fought for their ethno-state. Algerians kicked out the French. Africans kicked out Brits and French and Belgians. Currently, Europe is being invaded by black demographic imperialists like you who’ve messed up their own nations.
     
    An ahistorical, noncontextual and oversimplification survey of events, which is one of the prime hallmarks of those of your ideological persuasion. It's the reason you guys can't hold a serious discussion. Now, tell me, who would the Americans be fighting for their ethnostate? Who would the British fight? How about the French? Who is the established enemy that these countries have to fight in order to establish their ethnostates? The absurdity of the proposition should dawn on you if you ever ponder that question honestly.

    YOUR kind are demographic ethnic cleansers. You want to invade and demographically take over other nations because (1) you have too many babies in your own nation (2) and your kind turned your own nations to crap.
     
    Now isn't this rich? A beneficiary of of a legacy of real (as distinct from imagined) ethnic cleansing is accusing me of ethnic cleansing. Do you realize that there are more Europeans outside of Europe than in it. They are the only continental population with that distinction. They did not arrive like my parents -- dutifully obeying all the rules and all the laws, being granted permission to enter. No. They entered by force, guns blazing, often killing anything that moved, conducting real, tangible, actual ethnic cleansing.

    Also, you come to white lands and beat up weaker white guys and demand ‘where da white woman at?’ You want to reduce white men into cucky-wuck ‘white boys’ and colonize white wombs to make black babies.
     
    Haha. You have some funny material. Actually, I've been fucking white girls and women most of my life. Guess what, they wanted me more than I wanted them. What are you going to do about it? Why not worry about your own bedroom and your own probable erectile dysfunction?

    Their masters? Shiite! So, you are a troll!! You’re not even an African but some white guy pretending to be some spear-chucker at hippos. Okay, but I’ll play along as if you be what you claim to be.
     
    Russia supports and finances all sorts of fringe movements in the US, dummy. Don't take my word for it, look it up. They set up fake black nationalist organizations and fake gun rights organizations. Their goal is to create chaos. It's not out of the question that Russia created the alt right and/or directs its activities.

    What is ‘sensible’ immigration policy? You mean Paul Ryan and John McCain?
     
    Yes. We need immigration. My wife works in science lab. Virtually all here colleagues are foreign born like herself. You see, Americans want the easy hit and quick money. Who's going to do the critical work that Americans are either too lazy or too greedy to do? In fact we even need illegal immigration because I don't see your type willing to pick lettuce or scrub toilets.

    No, it was perfectly compatible with American values before globalists took over the US.
     
    Nope. America was always a conglomeration of different traditions: poly-European, African, Native American and Hispanic. I bet there are Spanish or Native American street names and other influences throughout your city.

    Also, whites had to keep blacks under control because blacks are stronger, more aggressive, wilder, and stuff.
     
    You are in the grip of 19th century pseudo-"science."

    As for blacks, ever since they were allowed to run free, they turned cities like Detroit, Baltimore, S. Louis, South Side of Chicago, and etc. Blacks got the bongo gene that is bad for civilization.
     
    This is some serious trolling. See, you people got into trouble when you abandoned your keyboards and echo-chambers and tried to take this kind of nonsense into the street. By all means, stay anonymous and stick to your keyboard. Don't let it out of your sight. Don't even think about leaving your house with this shit.

    No, Alt Right is not about white victimhood.
     
    Yes it is. The alt-right are grievance mongers and losers. Imagine being white in America (or anywhere in the world because there's even white privilege in non-white countries) and having everything teed up for you and still failing miserably. That's what's at the root of their angst and their frustration. They know they have every advantage by virtue of being white. Yet they see people like me not similarly advantaged who are lapping them, outperforming them, more successful than them. So they lash out. I'm the son of immigrants who came here with virtually nothing. I competed against white people whose families had built up wealth and resources for generations, people whose white skin gave them instant access to a vast range of opportunities, and I came out on top.

    Also, while it’s true that most of the successful people in America are white, they don’t care about white people, culture, or identity. Bill Gates and Tim Cook don’t give a crap about whites.
     
    In other words, they don't think like you. They have to be racist scumbags to be white in your eyes. Well, I'm afraid your criteria for being white represents too heavy a burden for any intelligent, decent and rational white person to bear. So of course you will continue to fail and fail and fail.

    But why did your African parents leave their own people/nation and decide to move to a nation founded and built by whites?
     
    Why did your people come to America? If whites have a magic wand that makes everything wonderful, why couldn't they make it work in Europe, which was REALLY built by whites, unlike America.

    And if you’re into African identity, why don’t you go back to Africa? We know why,and there is a recognizable pattern.
     
    Think for a moment. How am I going to have an African identity having been born and raised in America. Do you have a Polish or Irish identity?

    White people do things better, and blacks want to leech off whites.
     
    Yet it's whites that have been leeching off blacks for hundreds of years.

    White people do some things well and other things terribly. In the last few hundred years white people became very technologically oriented and they developed some great technology. But no greater than those that came before them without whose influence they might still be dumping feces out of windows and going lifetimes without ever bathing. Conversely, white people have been a deeply exploitative, genocidal and ruinous force that has decimated entire continents, including Europe itself.

    Yet it’s whites that have been leeching off blacks for hundreds of years.

    LOL. Pure undiluted nonsense.

    White people do some things well and other things terribly.

    But, whites do everything better than blacks, to a very statistically significant T. Always have, still do.

    Conversely, white people have been a deeply exploitative, genocidal and ruinous force that has decimated entire continents, including Europe itself.

    ROFLMAO. Europe is decimated now, is it? African population explodes, Africa is unable to feed and house itself, but whites have decimated Europe? Oh, yeah, and everywhere else. What is noteworthy is that it worked, every time, better than any black alternative.

    Your group is statistically inferior, as a group. You, yourself, may not be, never mind the artificial compensating mechanisms you have been provided by whites. What have you got, personally? … A 10% edge in a world where 20% of whites have a 10% edge on you?

    Be glad we let you live for a few more years, ay? All of our nasty, “exploitative, genocidal, ruinous, decimating force” still bubbles under the surface. Watch out, or we’ll turn the Jews loose on you again.

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    But, whites do everything better than blacks, to a very statistically significant T. Always have, still do.
     
    Not everything:

    https://dabrownstein.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/mapping-the-legality-of-marriage-to-death-penalty.jpg

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  • It’s the blecks (1): Guns. My biggest email bag of the month came after I hypothesized, in the March 23rd Radio Derb, that the enthusiasm white Americans display for owning guns, unusualamong Western nations, is connected to the other distinctive thing about our country: the presence in it, from the beginning, of a large black...
  • @Rufulus
    The problem does not state that anyone is going to swap tickets. I use that hypothetical to show that the odds of ending up in your seat are the same as those of ending up in his, given that the result is independent on whether you swap tickets or not. Said another way - neither you nor the free spirit need even look at his ticket when sitting (he because he's a free spirit, you because you only have 1 option when its time to sit down), hence the symmetry.

    Hmm…but, the only variant possibility that affects you (assuming you don’t demand your seat, vocally and as nastily as necessary) involves some other person taking your seat, either as the free spirit or as a person displaced by the free spirit. Thus, the testable event where you are not in your assigned seat is 1 of 100, making the odds of you being in your assigned seat are 99 out of 100.

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    Suppose you had seet 1A and the free spirit had 2A. You are saying there is a 99% chance you end up in 1A.

    Now suppose you had 2A and he had 1A.

    *You would have both behaved exactly the same*

    Hence, is there still a 99% chance you end up in 1A? Clearly not (since that was his seat).

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  • @Rufulus
    The answer the the math question is 50/50 odds. This can be seen from symmetry -- if you and the free spirit swapped tickets this would have no impact on the likelihood that you'd end up in any given seat (since neither your nor his seating decision depends on the ticket you hold), hence the probability you end up in your seat must be the same as the probability you end up in his.

    The answer the the math question is 50/50 odds. This can be seen from symmetry — if you and the free spirit swapped tickets this would have no impact on the likelihood that you’d end up in any given seat (since neither your nor his seating decision depends on the ticket you hold), hence the probability you end up in your seat must be the same as the probability you end up in his.

    Where is the condition stated that anyone is going to “swap” tickets? The only condition is that one person will sit where he wants, not (necessarily) in his assigned seat.

    The probability that YOU will sit in your assigned seat is determined by your decision to sit in your assigned seat. If the free spirit is in your seat when you get there, remove him.

    Yes, I am aware that the “brain teaser” was incorrectly transcribed by Derbyshire. However, as written, when all is said and done and the Maitre D’ summoned as situationally required, everyone will end up in the seat they’re assigned, or a seat determined by mutually-satisfactory negotiation.

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    The problem does not state that anyone is going to swap tickets. I use that hypothetical to show that the odds of ending up in your seat are the same as those of ending up in his, given that the result is independent on whether you swap tickets or not. Said another way - neither you nor the free spirit need even look at his ticket when sitting (he because he's a free spirit, you because you only have 1 option when its time to sit down), hence the symmetry.
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  • A year or two ago, I saw the much-touted science fiction film Interstellar, and although the plot wasn't any good, one early scene was quite amusing. For various reasons, the American government of the future claimed that our Moon Landings of the late 1960s had been faked, a trick aimed at winning the Cold War...
  • @CalDre
    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrz6Ge1oD6w&t=99s

    Yeah, planes. Like the SR-71, which flies at 70,000 ft.

    Or satellites. Like an orbiting lunar lander.

    It was a simple question. You should try educating yourself instead of being content to be a smug ignoramus.

    In 1969, there were only two SR-71s operational. There were plans for six of them, and their purpose was the high-resolution mapping of the Soviet Union, which they had accomplished by ’72. I know this because my brother-in-law was a photographic technician for those spy flights. SR-71s are SPY planes. The first ones used specially adapted Nikon cameras with high-speed film advance, fitted to viewports from the aft cockpit. The technician replaced the film cartridges every 15 minutes.

    Speaking of “smug ignoramus”, how can two SR-71s undergo an emergency refit as signal relays, and how can they maintain, between the two of them, a GLOBALLY perceived radio vector that coincides with that of the Moon, from every location on Earth that could receive signals transmitted from said purported Moon-base? Tell me, how is that done? How do you violate every known law of electromagnetic physics to achieve such a goal? How?

    In 1969, I was a US Navy communications tech, known at the time as an “ETN1″. The base to which I was assigned monitored Apollo transmissions. Directional and omni antennas were used. I was THERE, Mr. Ignoramus, and I KNOW the vector was the Moon. And I know from simultaneous communications maintained for the mission that Nevada, Hawaii, Indian Ocean and other installations had DIFFERENT vectors, all computing to the Moon from their positions.

    You got that? When I read some pathetic conspiracy theory about how the Moon landings were faked, I know with absolute certainty that the proponent is an ignorant jackass who is spouting moronic bullshit.

    You got that? Now, go bullshit somebody else.

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  • @Joel Walbert
    "I have my doubts, though. The wording of the Second Amendment leaves it not altogether clear whether “the security of a free state” refers to security from foreign occupation, or security from domestic despotism."


    It is absolutely clear which one "the security of a free state" is referring to. Both. I will never understand how people can say that the meaning of 2A is unclear. I understood it quite clear since the first time I ever was introduced to it back in high school. It says what it means, and means what it says. Its not open for debate, interpretation or emotions.

    Ref: “I have my doubts, though. The wording of the Second Amendment leaves it not altogether clear whether “the security of a free state” refers to security from foreign occupation, or security from domestic despotism.”

    When I see people write nonsense like the quote above, I marvel at the stupidity fostered and promoted by mass media and the grossly defective “education system”.

    A presumption seems to be that security is solely an external concern. How can anyone be THAT stupid?

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    @Steve Gittelson

    Considering a brutal war just fought and won over this exact issue. Its unfortunate, yet forgivable in 20-30 somethings and younger due to 'education' these days, but there is zero excuse for anybody over the age of 40 to even remotely questions the implications of that phrase.
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  • Earlier by Charlottesville Survivor: THE SYSTEM REPUDIATED: City’s Own Report Confirms Charlottesville Police, Politicians Conspired To Suppress Unite The Right Rally The “Alt Right” is “self-destructing” according to the Daily Beast [Less Than A Year After Charlottesville, the Alt-Right Is Self-Destructing, by Kelly Weill, March 29, 2018]. Slavishly quoting hideous Heidi Beirich of the Southern...
  • @Twodees Partain
    Stevie, you seem to have been triggered. i just wrote that Jake's terminology made sense, not that I wanted "political oversight of society" (whatever that is supposed to mean). While you're having this seizure of yours, does it occur to you that I fail to give a shit what some asshole like you thinks?

    I'll respond to your insult by inviting you to kiss my ass. I would also kindly suggest that you go fuck yourself at your earliest convenience.

    Stevie, you seem to have been triggered. i just wrote that Jake’s terminology made sense, not that I wanted “political oversight of society” (whatever that is supposed to mean). While you’re having this seizure of yours, does it occur to you that I fail to give a shit what some asshole like you thinks?

    Had you not felt that burning need to respond, I would admit that you fail to give a shit what some asshole thinks.

    But, you did. And do. And you will persist. Predictability is like that.

    For as long as you maintain the abysmally ignorant POV that “anti-Christendom whites” (speaking of championship-class strawmen) are responsible for the divisions in society, you will be just that: a stupid, prejudiced, unthinking polemicist.

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