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    From Vox: Getting worked up over Charles Murray being allowed on a podcast seems a little bizarre. (Here's the podcast.) Under the faux indignation and clickbait headline, however, this is about as good an attempt as any to shore up the Conventional Wisdom that the racial differences in average intel
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    OT, Bryan Caplan (almost literally) argues in favor of "magic dirt."

    Geography is Policy

    ... The harsh reality is that geography has a huge effect on countries' economic success. ... Social scientists who accept the power of geography tend to get pretty pessimistic about development. If poor countries adopted the institutions and policies of rich countries, they still wouldn't do very well. ... And that's where the geo-centric economists are completely wrong.

    Contrary to their own self-image, their view is radically optimistic. Consider the extreme scenario where geography is the sole determinant of national prosperity. Is there anything mankind could do to swiftly raise per-capita GDP? Absolutely: Move people from poor countries to rich countries. Is that the kind of thing that policy can change? Again, absolutely: Legalize movement from poor countries to rich countries. How much would that accomplish? Given the draconian regulations now on the books, such deregulation would swiftly transform the world.

    In the real world, of course, geography isn't the sole global problem, so deregulating migration isn't a full-blown panacea for global ills. But if Sachs is remotely right, this deregulation is the closest thing to a panacea we've got. Bad geography only retards human progress insofar as humans remain in locations with bad geography. And once it's legal, humans will vacate the bad areas on a massive scale.

     

    http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2017/05/geography_is_po.html

    Ackshually, Caplan is arguing that the primary difference between rich and poor countries is institutions, not geography (“magic dirt.”) (And he’s quite right.)

    Steve and iSteve commenters have a tendency to mock anyone who believes in anything other than 100% genetic determinism as believing in magic dirt. But the evidence is pretty clear that institutions have an effect over and above (real and important) genetic and cultural differences.

    Firstly, because it’s always less time consuming to show that an argument proves too much than to show that it’s wrong, consider that “magic dirt” proves too much: if true, there would be no reason for anyone to move from one country to another. Mexicans wouldn’t gain any income from moving to America, Poles wouldn’t gain any labor market income from moving to the UK, etc. because they would have the same allegedly definitive ancestry. I guess you can argue that people would move just to collect generous welfare benefits produced by higher achieving groups, but at least in America the Hispanic labor force participation rate is higher than that of any other ethnic group (I presume due to its lower median age.) It’s a lot easier to make a living and raise a family by working a low wage job and collecting government benefits than just by collecting government benefits. And in the 19th century, large numbers of people immigrated to a pre-welfare state US. And institutions mattered a lot there— southern Italians and eastern European Jews both did a lot better under well organized Anglo-Saxon capitalism than they’d done in their countries of origin.

    Secondly, because countries of people of the same ancestry who have different institutions imposed on them can have wildly different economic outcomes. The obvious and strongest examples being the post-WW2 divisions of Korea and Germany between capitalism and communism. Again, if ancestry is the only thing that matters, and anyone who believes otherwise is just a believer in magic dirt/tragic dirt, there should be no difference between North and South Korea.

    Thirdly, consider that African-Americans have much, much higher per capita income (~$23,000) than all Afro-Caribbean and Sub-Saharan African countries. The white admixture of 20% explains a bit of this, but probably not all that much. The difference between Euro-Americans and African-Americans in terms of income isn’t due to institutions; but the difference between African-Americans and Haitians or Congolese obviously at least somewhat is.

    Finally, in terms of actual empirical evidence, look at Clemens’, Pritchett’s and Montenegro’s 2009 paper on the “place premium”. They demonstrate that for observably identical individual workers from less developed countries, there are massive income gains from moving to a first world country. MAGIC DIRT! MAGIC DIRT! MAGIC DIRT! (Just saying “magic dirt” is notanargument.jpg.)

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    The killer "institutions > genes" factoid is China under the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution, and China today.

    Same people, same genes.

    (China was still putting satellites in orbit under Mao, just as North Korea is allegedly producing ICBMs today).

    On the other hand, that only 'really' shows bad institutions can be stronger than high-IQ genes. Britain left the former Rhodesia and Singapore with a reasonable legal system, yet Zimbabwe suffered while Singapore prospered.
    , @Yak-15
    Who creates, builds and maintains institutions? If institutions are the key, why did the majority of non-anglo populated former British empire states all perpetuate/descend into obscurity and poverty?

    All wage rates in the US are substantially higher than the nations you cite. This is nothing more than a reflection of their individual economies. Are you actually arguing a McDonald's worker in the US produces more economic output than one in Jamiaca? What about a basic agricultural worker? Does a strawberry picker in the US provide more value than a coffee plantation worker in Guatamala? What about a doctor in Mexico versus a doctor in the United States? Assuming the same skills in each, each is compensated differently as a reflection of differences in national income and the going rate for labor. The gains in value are due to simply joining a new economy with higher wage rates. If you bring in enough foreign workers, the wage rates converge between nations.

    I would not argue that institutions do not matter. But they do not seem to be the most important. Human capital transcends all.
    , @AnotherDad

    Ackshually, Caplan is arguing that the primary difference between rich and poor countries is institutions, not geography (“magic dirt.”) (And he’s quite right.)
     
    Nope, the primary difference is people--genes and culture. The institutions flow from them in a semi-chaotic process, and are only one piece of a whole baggage train of capabilities or lack there of that people drag along with them.

    Steve and iSteve commenters have a tendency to mock anyone who believes in anything other than 100% genetic determinism as believing in magic dirt.
     
    Straw man. Everyone here is aware of the North/South Korea example. People are also aware that for some set of genetic/cultural/historical reasons China has been civilized for a very long time, but declined relative to the West, was poor a century back but is now rapidly gaining ground against the West.

    In fact, your statement is the absolute reverse of the reality in all these nature/nurture debates. It's always the nurturists who are absolutists and insist that anyone who brings in genetics is a racist who has been discredited by ... uh ... well ... uh ... what we all know must be true! Geez--witness the very article Steve's referencing here. Turkheimer's claiming that there's no evidence for nature/genes in group differences. Which of course is utter nonsense.

    Thirdly, consider that African-Americans have much, much higher per capita ...
     
    African-Americans have much higher per capita incomes than Africans almost entirely because they live in a white developed, white run society. A well-run white society is hugely more prosperous (and more well ordered) and provides labor market opportunities even for people of mediocre/low skills that pay much, much better than they do in less developed/lower IQ societies.

    You could leave US blacks our "institutions" and even our capital base, but if white people themselves left, the US would quickly start heading in the African direction. Even if "magic institutions"--rule of law--were maintained, their white free US would still head in the African direction.

    They demonstrate that for observably identical individual workers from less developed countries, there are massive income gains from moving to a first world country. MAGIC DIRT! MAGIC DIRT! MAGIC DIRT!
     
    John, you apparently don't understand Steve's quip of "Magic Dirt".

    "Magic Dirt" just refers to all these claims--mostly in reference to blacks--that somehow whites are stealing/hoarding the good stuff--nice neighborhoods, "good schools", etc.--and excluding blacks holding them down. And further, if all this sort of "structural racism" was eliminated then blacks would be doing well. And yes, when a black moves from a black to a white neighborhood, they get a more peaceful, pleasant living experience. Likewise moving to a white school they do get a better school. Being in the white neighborhood doesn't stop them from acting black. Being in the white school doesn't raise their IQ. And when enough of their friends and family have also moved in the neighborhood stops being a nice neighborhood, the school stops being a "good school". Because there never was any "magic dirt". White people have nice things because white people create nice things.

    "Magic dirt" does not imply that Mexicans moving the the US (or Africans to Europe) won't see their incomes rise relative to back home. Steve and everyone here all know that. The migrants incomes will rise because whites have created more peaceful and prosperous nations that as a result have much higher wages even for identical lower skill labor. (And because white societies are more efficient at using their labor.) But if this migration continues unchecked ... and Western nations fill with Mexicans or Africans, those nations will become crappier and crappier until they resemble Mexico or Africa. Because in fact, it is not "magic dirt", but only the genes and culture of white people behind white nations' prosperity.
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  • @MOFO
    I was wondering if you have any thoughts on DeBoer's take on HBD? He seems to be one of the few liberals willing to dive in and address the facts as they are, rather than how he would like them to be:

    https://fredrikdeboer.com/2017/05/13/no-really-race-is-a-social-construct/

    https://fredrikdeboer.com/2017/04/10/disentangling-race-from-intelligence-and-genetics/

    DeBoer’s arguments against HBD are always best read as Straussian arguments for HBD. A personal favorite was the post on his now defunct old blog where he said something to the effect of: “Okay, so even when you control for income and all other specific measurable factors, the gap is still pretty large. But racism is such a powerful and all encompassing force that it can never possibly be quantified or measured, so we definitely know that the gap isn’t at all genetic in origin.”

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  • From a Wall Street Journal article about how we need more immigration:
  • Wait, I haven’t read the link, so apologies if it shows that this isn’t the case, but it says productivity has decreased due to an increased reliance on unskilled labor—couldn’t that be a Simpson’s paradox “decrease”? (I.e., the composition of the American workforce has shifted towards more lower-productivity Mexicans, which lowers the average, but white Americans have the same/higher productivity and Mexicans have higher productivity than they would in Mexico, so no one is actually less productive.)

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  • From IO9: TNC, I am told, is also writing the main Black Panther title, which isn't cancelled but isn't exactly burning up the shelves at your local comic book emporium. Maybe instead of Ta-Nehisi Coates writing comic books, there should be a comic book about The TNC, a lonely escalator-repairman. He gets bit by a...
  • I thought that his run on “Black Panther” sold like proverbial hotcakes, though?

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  • From Scott Adams:
  • Yeah, you tell ‘em, Scott! People with the specific kind of specialized knowledge to make predictions about American demography (or, “scientists” in Adams’ words) are barred by law and custom from doing so in public. If, for example, you check out the publications of the Pew Research Center, you certainly won’t find any attempts to make predictions about trends in American ethnic composition or religious affiliation incorporating immigration.

    To be fair, there actually are countries like France where the government is frustratingly obtuse about allowing important information about race/religion to be collected, but Adams fails to make this distinction.

    There should be two “internet rules” to along with rule 34: rule 35, that for every question imaginable, somewhere on the internet academic research pertaining to it exists; and rule 36, that for every question imaginable, an academic somewhere has concluded after their research on it that more research is required.

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    The Census Bureau does racial projections out several decades.
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  • Maybe there are anti-gravity machines inside the invisible backpacks? White men are always culturally appropriating by inventing stuff, so maybe they stole the idea for an anti-gravity device?
  • @International Jew
    Ok, I sorta buy your first reason, makes sense.

    But then, why don't we see push-back against male-to-female trangenders? Aren't we supposed to believe women also suffer from discrimination? Indeed the outrage should be all the stronger when it's very successful men like Bruce Jenner, Robert McCloskey, or iSteve's old MBA classmate that go trans. No?

    There actually are some very fringe feminists who hate male-to-female transgenders for this reason. I agree that the contradiction is puzzling; Google search “Rachel Dolezal Caitlin Jenner” and the articles about why they’re different tend to end up tying themselves in knots.

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  • Wow, that review was really….something. It’s interesting how much left wing racial activists hate Dolezal, given that according to their blank slate-ist “muh social construct” view of race she is, logically speaking, as black as Michael Brown or Barack Obama. However, the vitriolic reaction to Dolezal makes it clear that basically everyone recognizes that race is a meaningful and at least partially biological concept. She gets extra bonus hate points because the idea of a white person choosing to fraudulently represent herself as black (voting with her feet/census form) casts doubt on the white privilege narrative.

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  • From the Washington Post: I think they mean: could you get into the best country club in town? Strikingly enough, the son-in-law of the founder/designer of National Golf Links of America in the Hamptons was Irish Catholic. Of course his dad had been elected mayor of NYC in 1880 as the Establishment candidate. This is...
  • @Spotted Toad
    Lincoln's speech on Dred Scott clearly implies that the Irish were unquestionably white in 1857:

    "Why, according to this, not only negroes but white people outside of Great Britain and America are not spoken of in that instrument . The English, Irish and Scotch, along with white Americans, were included to be sure, but the French, Germans and other white people of the world are all gone to pot along with the Judge’s 'inferior races'. "
    http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/speech-on-the-dred-scott-decision/

    Yes, exactly—what makes no sense to me about this whole “ethnics were once not white!!1!1″ meme to me is that the term “white/the white race” was frequently used in speeches and writings pre-dating the Second World War. For example, in the 1790 immigration act that white nationalists love to cite, immigration was limited to “free white persons of good character”, and presumably that allowed Irish immigrants to enter.

    However, while the specific point about Irish, Italians etc. not literally being considered white is wrong, I do think that progressives have a reasonable point underneath the nonsense. Racial/ethnic nationalists today have very different ideas about who the groups they want to protect are than people did in the 19th century, let alone the 17th or 12th century. For example, the difference between Nordics, Alpines and Mediterraneans was pretty important to Madison Grant, but I don’t hear, say, Kevin MacDonald or Andrew Anglin talking too much about how Italians are a racial threat to Anglo-Saxons. But white nationalists like them today say that they’re drawing the boundaries of their in-group on the basis of biology, and clearly the change in tribal identity from 1924 to 2017 is the result of changes in socialization rather than evolution.

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    Since I got arthritis, I talk about going to the gym to avoid early death instead of going to reach performance goals. You can argue over whether or not I've become "socialized" to being less active, but real, irreversible changes took place in my body.
    , @Thrasymachus
    VDare still considers Italians and Irish a threat.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Perhaps MacDonald and the like know that they have zero chance if they exclude and alienate the tens of millions of proud white European-descended Americans who are NOT English, Scottish, Irish, or Welsh. Like me.
    , @ben tillman

    However, while the specific point about Irish, Italians etc. not literally being considered white is wrong, I do think that progressives have a reasonable point underneath the nonsense. Racial/ethnic nationalists today have very different ideas about who the groups they want to protect are than people did in the 19th century, let alone the 17th or 12th century. For example, the difference between Nordics, Alpines and Mediterraneans was pretty important to Madison Grant, but I don’t hear, say, Kevin MacDonald or Andrew Anglin talking too much about how Italians are a racial threat to Anglo-Saxons. But white nationalists like them today say that they’re drawing the boundaries of their in-group on the basis of biology, and clearly the change in tribal identity from 1924 to 2017 is the result of changes in socialization rather than evolution.
     
    You can read MacDonald's What Makes Western Culture Unique and come up with a good definition of "white" or "Western white", but the salient definition is set by our antagonists. Whites are those who are under attack a for being "white".

    While there are certainly differences among the constituent nationalities and sub-nationalities, they pale in importance (at least for the time being) compared to the external common threat. All those attacked as "whites" must fight together as "whites".

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  • From ABC News: That's a pretty run-of-the-mill racial gap: about 0.58 standard deviations between whites and blacks.
  • I love the article’s headline—”Test meant to screen teachers instead weeds out minorities.” More accurate would be something along the lines of: “Test screens teachers, weeding out unqualified minorities in the process.”

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    Yes, I do like your headline better.

    I have another issue with it though. How does a journalist who (surely) thinks well of minorities compare them to weeds? I know, I know, insensitivity to language is everywhere. But still...
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  • As a Jew on the libertarian Right, I am sickened by the compulsion of some American Jews to force President Donald Trump to convulse over Jewish angst. The Anti-Defamation League and other largely self-anointed representatives of Jewish interests are kvetching, accusing the president of not making it abundantly clear that he will not tolerate violence...
  • @Talha
    I love Ms. Mercer's articles on Islam! They're so full...of stuff!!!

    It’s not right-wing populism that endangers Jewish survival in Europe and Canada
     
    Umm, have you read some of the comments at UNZ. "Push them into the sea!" apparently is quite popular on this side of the pond - I had no clue.

    it’s the influx of Muslims
     
    OK - please send massive memos to your folks to stop the influx now - they are in the thick of advocating it (and also setting about the causes of it by advocating destabilizing Muslim countries). Please figure out what the hell you want!

    These Muslims bring with them the Islam that The Prophet practiced.
     
    Ahhh - one can certainly dream!

    This Islam does not tolerate Jews.
     
    Which is why practically ever place Islam spread to and kicked out the prevailing Byzantine or Persian or Visigoth, etc. order, your folks thought it was a blessing from God that He raised up the 'Kingdom of Ismael':
    "The angel Metatron at once answered him. 'Fear not, O son of man! The Holy One, blessed be He, brings the kingdom of Ishmael only to save you from this wicked one (Rome) He will send a prophet to them and conquer the Land [of Israel]...And the second king who arises from Ishmael will love [the people of] Israel and conquer all the kingdoms."
    Historical Dictionary of Judaism

    I mean, have you even read your own history?

    Muslims now greatly outnumber Jews in these formerly safe spaces for Judaism.
     
    Doh - I guess we'll have to deal with more illegal settlements now that y'all need to go to Israel for your safe spaces, eh?

    are almost exclusively the handiwork of an ancient hatred
     
    Or extremist mob mentality - take your pick.

    Second only to Latinos, the relatively new, roughly 40-year-old Muslim community is the most anti-Semitic community
     
    Damn it - we can't be first in anything!

    It is virtually impossible to be reared in classical Islam and not be educated to hate Jews
     
    Really - I know plenty of traditionally trained Muslim scholars that don't hate Jews - how did that happen?

    many of the Suras concerning Jews are monstrously hateful, murderous, terrifying
     
    If you understood the context - you'd understand why this is so. I would hope they would be terrified when God declares war on those that plotted to help the enemies of His Prophet (pbuh) - you expect Him to deliver them ice cream from the heavens?
    "It is He who expelled from their habitations the unbelievers among the People of the Book at the first gathering. You did not think that they would go forth, and they thought that their fortresses would defend them against God; but God came upon them from whence they had not reckoned, and He cast terror into their hearts as they destroyed their houses with their own hands, and the hands of the believers; therefore take heed, you who have eyes!" (59:2)

    It astonishes me that people think God should conduct Himself like a chump - where does this mentality come from? I mean, does He own the universe or is it all about your feelings and safe-spaces. Now who's talking SJW?

    according to Islamic teaching, were Muslims, not Jews
     
    Uh no - they were ethnically Jews, but Muslims. Being a Jew can be an ethnic identity or a religious one. All prophets are Muslim for us - their ethnicity is irrelevant.

    condemned anti-Semitism
     
    This is a major problem because many Jewish groups insist that criticism of Israel is anti-semitic - therefore they want to back us up into a corner. Sorry, we won't play that game. We can oppose Israel without hating on Jews. If you can't see that - it's your problem, not ours.

    Islam and Latin America
     
    O crap! The nightmare convergence!

    "MIAMI — Latinos are one of the fastest growing groups in the Muslim religion."
    http://www.voanews.com/a/latinas-converting-to-islam-for-identity-structure/2488304.html

    they heap insults on a president who belongs to one of the most politically submissive, bullied groups: white men
     
    Yeah - that's not smart.

    The proper metaphor for the relationship between Judaism and Christianity is that of proud parent and progeny.
     
    OMG! You have got to be *****ing me - can you seriously write that with a straight face? Man are you going to get seriously nailed by a boatload of UNZ comments for that one! OK, given that we trace ourselves back to Abraham (pbuh) - is our metaphor one of a proud grandparent and grandkids! Can I call you 'Gramps'??!!

    Peace.

    Umm, have you read some of the comments at UNZ. “Push them into the sea!” apparently is quite popular on this side of the pond – I had no clue.

    I think the “Jews exaggerate Western anti-Semitism”/”kill all Jews” ratio in the Unz comment sections is…maybe 10,000 to 1 at a conservative estimate?

    OK – please send massive memos to your folks to stop the influx now – they are in the thick of advocating it (and also setting about the causes of it by advocating destabilizing Muslim countries). Please figure out what the hell you want!

    Wow, just wow. You do realize that was the entire point of the article?

    Which is why practically ever place Islam spread to and kicked out the prevailing Byzantine or Persian or Visigoth, etc. order, your folks thought it was a blessing from God that He raised up the ‘Kingdom of Ismael’:

    I suspect the historical toleration by Muslims of Jews in the Middle East is why the sentence you quoted specified “this” Islam, as opposed to “all Islam that has ever existed anywhere ever.”

    Doh – I guess we’ll have to deal with more illegal settlements now that y’all need to go to Israel for your safe spaces, eh?

    The nuances of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict seem very relevant to this article about immigration to the US.

    This is a major problem because many Jewish groups insist that criticism of Israel is anti-semitic – therefore they want to back us up into a corner. Sorry, we won’t play that game. We can oppose Israel without hating on Jews. If you can’t see that – it’s your problem, not ours.

    Except for the Jewish organizations, like J Street and Jewish Voice for Peace, that criticize Israel and those who broadly define anti-Semitism to include reasonable criticisms of Israel.

    Also, the Unz comments sections are probably not the best place to make the case that we shouldn’t think about criticism of Israel as being related to anti-Semitism. (This is hopefully apparent regardless of whether one thinks anti-Semitism is a good or bad thing.)

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    that we shouldn’t think about criticism of Israel as being related to anti-Semitism.
     
    Why is criticism of Israel anti-Semitisms? Did you know that the first prime minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, and several of the early leaders were atheists?
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  • @Mark Green
    What a manipulating writer and dishonest article. All Ilana Mercer ever thinks about is the always-imperiled safety of HER precious people, never the reverse. Her hyper-ethnocentrism is both insulting and small-minded.

    Isn't it about time that gentiles kept running tabs on the threats, humiliations, and genuine security issues posed by Jews upon them?

    What about the impact of Jewish activism on all of humanity, Ilana? It's bone-crushing!

    Shall we do a body count, starting with the Russian revolution?

    And how about Israel's nuclear arsenal?

    Why isn't Israel's undeclared array of nuclear WMD not considered a critical security threat to the entire region? After all, it is.

    Can we talk about it?--or is doing so 'anti-Semitic'?

    And how about what holy Jewish scripture says about the goyim? Not very flattering.

    In fact, it's worse than what the Koran says about Jews!

    Why shouldn't the outrage go both ways?

    Jewish disdain similarly applies to Christians. To countless religious Jews, Christ is an imposter who deserves to be "boiled in excrement". Not very neighborly, eh?

    What should we do about this, Ms. Mercer?

    Jewish fundamentalism is often shocking, revolting, and threatening. But don't hold your breath waiting for Mercer to come clean about these theological embarrassments or the countless double-standards that benefit her tribe and her adopted apartheid welfare state. Pursuing the truth just isn't her shtick.

    Indeed, like so many of her co-ethnics, Mercer's present strategy is to turn Christians against Muslims. This works out rather nicely for Israel. Just look at the smoldering ruins of Iraq, Palestine, Libya and Syria; not to mention the ongoing economic strangulation of Iran. These are crypto-Zionist operations. And if Israel gets its way, there will be more.

    Ilana Mercer is a hasbara operative posing as a Zio-libertarian. But don't be fooled. She and her brethren work tirelessly to divide-up Israel's ever-expanding list of victims, dupes and adversaries. She's presently spinning a political yarn using a hip, American, libertarian smokescreen. But it's 100% kosher. If it wasn't, she would be complaining about how US-based Israelis use American power to steer Washington into expensive and unnecessary wars of aggression that benefit the Zionist state. This huge and obvious oversight permeates Mercer's entire 'libertarian' ideology. I'm amazed that Unz even publishes her.

    Thus, you will never hear a comment or position from Mercer that exalts the libertarian principle of non-aggression. Why? It undermines the long-term Zionist project which requires expansion, conquest and war--as well as uninterrupted military succor from Uncle Sam.

    These deceptions explain why ruinous invasions and foreign-funded revolts are being orchestrated all over the globe by pro-Zionists of various ideological persuasions. And among the cheerleaders is Zio-libertarian, Ilana Mercer.

    'Why do those evil anti-Semites hate us so?'

    Oy vey.

    At the same time, the Zionist state continues to siphon off resources and wealth from innumerable peoples as it sets the groundwork for additional conflict.

    No genuine libertarian could support such wasteful, violent, and lethal state action. In fact, any honest libertarian would necessarily denounce Israel for its hyper-sonic levels of interference, aggression and parasitism upon the American republic. Not Mercer.

    She'd rather bellyache about Palestinian rock-throwers, stateless Iraqi paupers, and other threats to 'Jewish survival'. This is tribalism, not libertarianism.

    Indeed, if she was a libertarian, Mercer would caution us Americans to mind our own business and stop waging non-essential wars against distant Muslim states. This is what Ron Paul has been doing for decades. Not Mercer.

    In fact, Mercer's living happily and securely in her kosher, socialist apartheid state, kvetching about 'anti-Semitism' and the poor treatment of Jews at the hands of evil Muslims. Might it be that her entire political scenario is a fraud?--and that the very reverse is more accurate?

    It is the vast, unchecked power of international Jewry--not Islam--that undermines American security and global stability.

    I don’t normally “white knight” but this remarkably illogical and poorly researched comment really triggered me:

    What a manipulating writer and dishonest article. All Ilana Mercer ever thinks about is the always-imperiled safety of HER precious people, never the reverse. Her hyper-ethnocentrism is both insulting and small-minded.

    So you’re opposed to—indeed, disgusted by— ethnocentrism, in this case a Jew wondering whether certain policies are good or bad for Jews? You must also be opposed to Europeans and Euro-Americans (as well as Japanese, Palestinians, Bolivians, Nigerians, etc.) analyzing whether certain policies are good or bad for them, right?

    What a crazy random happenstance that, of all the ethnic groups in the world whose present and/or historical ethnocentrism you could have devoted your comment to criticizing, you chose one that represents less than 0.2% of the world’s population.

    Isn’t it about time that gentiles kept running tabs on the threats, humiliations, and genuine security issues posed by Jews upon them?

    What about the impact of Jewish activism on all of humanity, Ilana? It’s bone-crushing!

    I’m just curious, do you also believe in the principle of collective guilt as it applies to Europeans, or just Jews? For example, do you think that, as many leftists (ludicrously) do, present-day Europeans are responsible for the atrocities committed against non-white indigenes during colonialism, and thus owe a huge moral debt to said non-Europeans today?

    Shall we do a body count, starting with the Russian revolution?

    And how about Israel’s nuclear arsenal?

    Why isn’t Israel’s undeclared array of nuclear WMD not considered a critical security threat to the entire region? After all, it is.

    The ethnic composition of early 20th century Communist movements and Middle Eastern high geopolitics definitely seem very relevant to this article about Muslim immigration and the relationship of Jewish interest organizations thereof.

    Can we talk about it?–or is doing so ‘anti-Semitic’?

    Yeah, when does anybody in the United States or Europe ever debate whether Israel’s behavior and the US’s enablement thereof is good or not? I hear it’s a particularly trivial issue on college campuses. And prominent, passionate, American critics of the Israeli state’s behavior, like Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein and Glenn Greenwald, are also all Gentiles.

    Again, this all seems very relevant to the original article.

    Ilana Mercer is a hasbara operative posing as a Zio-libertarian

    I have no idea, not being a frequent reader of Mercer’s work, whether this is true or not, though judging from the first page of her published articles on Unz dot com and Wiki page it doesn’t really seem like an accurate characterization of her place in the American political ecosystem.

    Regardless, it seems like the appropriate place to raise such concerns about Mercer’s views about Israel and/or American foreign policy would be…an article actually about Israel and/or American foreign policy.

    ‘Why do those evil anti-Semites hate us so?’

    I do indeed find it difficult to understand why you have such intense anger about these particular issues, and why you translate your nominal disagreement with the behavior of the Israeli and American governments and militaries into hatred of Jews as a people.

    You’ll be shocked to hear this, I know, but many people are capable of articulating critiques of decisions made by governments, like that of Israel, without also randomly foaming at the mouth with hatred at people who have the same ethnic background as members of said governments.

    Indeed, if she was a libertarian, Mercer would caution us Americans to mind our own business and stop waging non-essential wars against distant Muslim states. This is what Ron Paul has been doing for decades. Not Mercer.

    Indeed, if you were an intellectually honest human being, you would have at least, say, done a cursory Google search and Wikipedia perusal to see if your claims were easily disproved. Mercer apparently opposed the Libya and Iraq interventions and has long criticized neoconservatism (Wiki credits her with coming up with Steve Sailer’s beloved “invade the world/invite the world” framing.)

    Thus, even by your own fallacious “you don’t talk/talk often enough about my pet hobbyhorse, your argument is invalid” standard, your argument is wrong. Sad!

    Of course, when exposing the perfidy and power of The Jews, it’s hardly necessarily to waste one’s time doing “factual research” to separate real facts from alternative facts.

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    1 "ndeed, disgusted by— ethnocentrism, in this case a Jew wondering whether certain policies are good" But the polices are coming from the same group who marketed Libya Syrian and Iraq wars

    2"’m just curious, do you also believe in the principle of collective guilt as it applies to Europeans, or just Jews?" How did you reach this conclusion?

    3 "Google search and Wikipedia perusal to see if your claims were easily disproved. Mercer apparently opposed the Libya and Iraq interventions and has long criticized neoconservatism (Wiki credits her with coming up with Steve Sailer’s beloved “invade the world/invite the world” framing.) "

    If that were the case , why doesn't she lambast the current polices of Likudnik in Israel and the western appendages thriving and doing incalculable damages to the rest of world including damages to US-UK

    4 Why this entire article on about Muslims threatening Jews when the opposite is true ? Is not she plainly lying through her teeth?

    5 If she wants to show some authenticity about her previous railing against neoconservatives, may be she should alarm and educate the American public of the risks of damages and risks of wars ,risks of terrorism from Iran obsession , and speak loudly against current inertia of we allowing the canard emanating from AIPAC ADL JINSA Israel and local neoocns against Iran and against Iran deal and let those lies shape the government policies.
    , @anonymous
    About you collective guilt


    "SEE: “Israeli diplomat in Berlin: Maintaining German guilt about Holocaust helps Israel” | By Nir Gontarz | Haaretz.com | Jun. 25, 2015

    [EXCERPT] A spokeswoman for the Israeli embassy in Berlin recently told Israeli journalists it was in the country’s interest to maintain German guilt about the Holocaust, and that it isn’t seeking full normalization of relations between the governments.

    Embassy spokeswoman Adi Farjon made the comments in a closed briefing session with journalists at the embassy.

    “We were all in shock,” said a female journalist present at the briefing. “The spokeswoman clearly said it was an Israeli interest to maintain German guilt feelings. She even said that without them, we’d be just another country as far as they’re concerned.”

    Others present at the event confirmed the journalist’s account.

    Some added that the Israeli ambassador himself, Yakov Hadas-Handelsman, was present for some of the briefing, as were other embassy workers who don’t speak Hebrew. Another journalist commented, “It was so awkward. We couldn’t believe our ears. We’re sitting there eating peanuts, and behind the spokeswoman there are two German women sitting there who don’t understand a word of Hebrew – and the embassy staff is telling us they’re working to preserve the German guilt feelings and that Israel has no interest in normalization of relations between the two countries.”

    “I don’t remember saying that,” Farjon told Haaretz in response. “I can’t vouch for any particular quote, she added. “It was an off-the-record conversation, a briefing talk. The way I speak with Israeli journalists is a little different. These things aren’t intended to get out. I can’t reveal the principles I work by. For example, I don’t say who I go to in order to get good stories out here, or who I pay for things like that.” . . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.662962

    quoting the comment of LewisDickerson March 1, 2017, 12:53 pmLewisDickerson March 1, 2017, 12:53 pm http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/palestine-colonialism-academic/

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  • From the Washington Post:
  • @whorefinder
    I predict at one point in the next decade a Leftist "intellectual" will declare---in all seriousness--- that s/he is smarter than St. Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Thomas Jefferson, or some other legendary Western traditional thinker---probably on Bill Maher's show, or on MSNBC/CNN/Fox during a talking heads segment. And then s/he will adamantly defend their declaration in articles in "serious" literature/newspapers---and other Leftist "intellectuals" will back them up (Dana Milbank, I'm looking at you for the toadying).

    In fact, much like goading Olbermann and Coates into their foolishness, we should be goading other Leftists intellectuals into doing this. It really wouldn't be hard at all; they already didain Western culture as well as anyone who can remotely be called a "dead white man" or who believes in traditional intellectualism. (Unless they start claiming the white man was secretly black, like blacks do with Jesus, Beethoven, and every Egyptian ruler).

    It's a hoot watching the Left prove everyday since Trump's emergence that it is the movement of the low-IQ but highly-credentialed and well-connected.

    Noah Smith proclaimed Coates’ writing superior to that of Tolstoy on Twitter once, I believe.

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    Here's what A.O. Scott has to say about TNC:

    New York Times film reviewer A.O. Scott tweeted: “ ‘Must read’ doesn’t even come close. This from @tanehisicoates is essential, like water or air.”
     
    I can think of a handful of human intellectual achievements that merit something like that level of praise: Darwin’s On the Origin of Species, Newton’s Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica , Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason, etc

    TNC’s emotional outbursts are not in the same category
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  • A friend does a little focus-grouping now and then of political language. He reports that any concern for the rights, interests, or well-being of "whites" strikes respondents as downscale. The word "white" seems just plain prole. In contrast, the idea of "European" identity seems kind of classy to the Americans he tries it out upon....
  • Lawrence Murray coined the neologism “Anglo-American” to refer to white Americans in a more formal and respectful fashion. I quite like it, personally, though unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have caught on much.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    That doesn't work because it implies English heritage. There are plenty of American whites whose ancestors are not mainly British.
    , @SFG
    Germans, Russians, Italians, Poles...all white by any standard and definitely not Anglo. Heck, calling an Irishman 'Anglo' is an insult!
    , @dfordoom

    Lawrence Murray coined the neologism “Anglo-American” to refer to white Americans in a more formal and respectful fashion.
     
    Anglo-Celt enjoyed a bit of a vogue in Australia a few decades back.
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  • From the Washington Post: The big concern among the working class on the West Coast in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries was mass immigration: leaders of the wor
  • By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

    I doubt anyone reading the comments here needs this pointed out to them, but I find this rhetorical technique frustrating in the extreme. Specifically, rather than restating factual claims one disagrees with and explaining why those factual claims are false, factual claims are stated and then implied/stated to be “racist” and thus ipso facto false.

    For example, as in this article, I’ve often heard that there is a “narrative” that Asian-Americans are a “model minority” who supposedly “excel” in “education and the labor market”, and that their success “proves” that racism isn’t holding back other non-white groups. (Likewise for the narrative about blacks being more violent on average.) For some unknown reason, however, I never hear explanations of why this narrative is actually false .

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  • From the New York Times: Behind 2016’s Turmoil, a Crisis of White Identity The Interpreter By AMANDA TAUB NOV. 1, 2016 Call it the crisis of whiteness. White anxiety has fueled this year’s political tumult in the West: Britain’s surprising vote to exit the European Union, Donald J. Trump’s unexpected capture of the Republican presidential...
  • There’s always this rhetorical trick whereby mass immigration is presented as a natural phenomenon that the native-born European populations have to accept, like rainfall or the changing of the seasons, when in reality it’s a discretionary policy choice that some nations like Japan don’t make.

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    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    Exactly.

    Immigration is considered unstoppable. Like a tsunami.

    I read it everywhere in the MSM. We can no more change it than we could make the sun rise in the west.

    I find this baffling. It wasn't like this in the 1960's when the floodgates opened. When did the change occur?

    Also, immigration is no longer restricted to vetted individuals, as had been the case (at least in Canada) back in the 1960's.

    You can't even have a discussion with the True Believers on the subject. You're a racist, a bigot, blah blah blah.
    , @Harold
    I think the rhetorical trick is called the Große Lüge
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  • A few days ago I joked on Facebook that life isn't about the score up on the board, but standing with your team. By this, I have come to the position that when it comes to arguments and debates the details of the models and facts, and who even wins in each round, is irrelevant...
  • People make fun of Vox, but I believe that the people running it actually do think empirics matters. They attempt analysis. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to who and whom.

    Indeed—I think Vox writers on subjects where “who? whom?” is less important, like Timothy Lee on economics or Andrew Prokop on horse race politics, tend to be more interesting and empirically minded than writers like Victoria Massie, author of the linked piece.

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  • Andrew Sullivan writes in New York magazine about how he broke down under the strain of blogging: I didn't see any mention of performance-enhancing drugs in Sullivan's article. Way back in 2000, Sullivan was extremely frank in a long New York Times Magazine article, "The 'He' Hormone," about how he had revitalized his career by...
  • Also, twitter has replaced the early aughts blogosphere in terms of information aggregation for many, as Noah Smith among others has argued.

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    That explains why I'm perennially out of the loop: I dislike Twitter and have yet to make a habit of it.
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  • Reading The Dialectical Imagination: A History of the Frankfurt School and the Institute of Social Research, 1923-1950. A good book. Dense. But it is clear (the author so admits) that it's only a superficial exploration of the ideas of the Frankfurt School. That being said, a lot of the abstruse and in my opinion wrong-headed...
  • @iffen
    That non-white authors and activists are generally much preferred among p.c. types

    How does the fact that PC types like the race centric writing of TNC differ from the fact that many commenters at UR prefer the race centric writing of some of the writers here?

    How does the fact that PC types like the race centric writing of TNC differ from the fact that many commenters at UR prefer the race centric writing of some of the writers here?

    I wasn’t disparaging them for finding issues of race/identity important; I was merely noting that (in my anecdotal, though I suspect representative, experience) they heavily weight race and gender in determining which authors to read on the subject.

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  • @Razib Khan
    That non-white authors and activists are generally much preferred among p.c. types is my general impression.

    if you say something like this, name them. otherwise, you're a gasbag.

    it seems unlikely that PC kommissars have read their marcuse or adorno...but i have to admit that the way these thinkers frame their arguments and their lexicon does seem to have had some influence (the book i reference above was written in the 1970s, so this isn't an after the fact work).

    if you say something like this, name them. otherwise, you’re a gasbag.

    I normally try to avoid “those who” generalizations and respond to specific arguments made by specific people, but “political correctness” is such a nebulous idea/movement it’s hard to resist the temptation. I would conjecture that Ta-Nehisi Coates, Michelle Alexander and maybe Elizabeth Hinton for starters are highly popular in p.c. culture. To make an unfortunately unsourced generalization again, most of the (fellow) Millenials I know who participate in left-wing identity politics get their ideas from reading blogs (e.g. “the Love Life of an Asian Guy”), Tumblr accounts and website like Everyday Feminism rather than from reading books.

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    • Replies: @Razib Khan
    yes. tumblr.

    TNC is entirely derivative. i haven't read alexander, though ppl cite her. perhaps i should. no idea who hinton is.
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  • @jb
    I keep hearing people talking about "Cultural Marxism" as the source of today's "politically correct" insanity, and tracing it all back to the Frankfurt School, and I don't know what to make of it. Were they really as influential as all that? Or are they just a convenient devil to blame for trends that actually have many unclear origins? If you have any thoughts on the matter after you finish the book I'd be interested in hearing them.

    I find it unlikely in the extreme, given that most p.c. college students today don’t seem to cite/have read any of the Frankfurt School authors, and that critical theory is an extremely fringe intellectual tradition. (As in, people with expertise in it can only find subsistence level academic positions and their books are marketed to tiny audiences.) Given the general hostility to European intellectuals among this crowd (AKA “dead white males”; see the student quoted in the New Yorker as saying she was sick of learning about Marx because he like didn’t even include race in his analysis) I doubt they’d consider themselves the direct heirs of a predominantly European intellectual tradition. That non-white authors and activists are generally much preferred among p.c. types is my general impression.

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    • Replies: @Razib Khan
    That non-white authors and activists are generally much preferred among p.c. types is my general impression.

    if you say something like this, name them. otherwise, you're a gasbag.

    it seems unlikely that PC kommissars have read their marcuse or adorno...but i have to admit that the way these thinkers frame their arguments and their lexicon does seem to have had some influence (the book i reference above was written in the 1970s, so this isn't an after the fact work).
    , @iffen
    That non-white authors and activists are generally much preferred among p.c. types

    How does the fact that PC types like the race centric writing of TNC differ from the fact that many commenters at UR prefer the race centric writing of some of the writers here?
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  • A New York Times oped: Black Activists Don’t Ignore Crime By LISA L. MILLER AUG. 5, 2016 IT has become a standard conservative talking point: Black activists focus on police brutality but ignore violent crime in black neighborhoods. Last month Rudy Giuliani said on Fox News: “If they meant ‘Black Lives Matter,’ they would be...
  • @countenance
    BLM's juices get flowing when the violence is non-black law enforcement officer on black body.

    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don't ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don't get loud about it.

    Sure, a few BLM activist claim they don’t ignore garden variety black on black violence, but they certainly don’t get loud about it.

    What’s amazing is that seemingly no BLM activists have anything to say about high black intraracial violence. All they would have to do is make some token boilerplate statements about how high crime rates are the unfortunate legacy of slavery and what we need is more g̶i̶b̶s̶m̶e̶d̶a̶t̶ investment in education and job training programs, and they’d protect their rhetorical right flank from people like Giuliani much better. Instead, they steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the existence, even in highly coded terms, of black crime.

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    Their purpose has nothing to do with violence, but with equal outcomes. Demanding more of the pie, more $$$. Like the Flint Michigan mayor, when the lead water contamination story was still hot, not interested in science, not interested in new pipes, all she wanted was for white people to pay her a lot of money.
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  • Black Lives Matter can find time to make silly statements about Israel/Palestine (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/04/black-lives-matter-platform-accuses-israel-genocide/), but for some reason it can’t find time to talk about the pervasiveness of black criminality.

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  • A few days ago I tweeted: And, sure enough, from The Independent today: You can tell Merkel's genius plan is working because Ge
  • Obviously, inviting hordes of Muslims to one’s country is a great way to protect one’s countrymen from Islamic terrorism. Just look at how many Islamic terrorist attacks have occurred in hateful, xenophobic, bigoted countries like Poland and Hungary!

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    • Replies: @anon
    I have privately concluded that the Iron Curtain was a huge blessing in disguise. True, nobody got out of the socialist eastern European paradises. But then again, NOBODY GOT IN either!
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