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    From Nature Communications: Published: 25 May 2018 Cultural hitchhiking and competition between patrilineal kin groups explain the post-Neolithic Y-chromosome bottleneck Tian Chen Zeng, Alan J. Aw & Marcus W. Feldman Abstract In human populations, changes in genetic variation are driven not only by genetic processes, but can also arise from cultural or social changes. An...
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    Ron Unz is winning. The official US Census site indicates California is 72.7% white. Only 37.7% are 'non-Hispanic White', but it seems that 90% of Hispanics are now counted as white.

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/CA/RHI125216

    And this is just California. Nationwide, the numbers are :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

    73.3% white, with no separate category for 'Hispanic'. The 'Other Race' category of 4.8% obviously comprises the brownest Hispanics, but only the brownest. Further down, you can see that of the 17.1% that are Hispanic, 11.3% are considered 'white'. So two-thirds of Hispanics in America are considered 'white'.

    Remember that this has happened in the past before. Whenever the white population drops below 60%, the next-closest group is re-classified as 'white' to get the percentage back up to above 80%.

    First it was Irish, then Italians, Jews, and Poles, then Middle Easterners, and now Hispanics.

    This will seem like a left-wing position position by Steve commenter standards, but, personally, I am optimistic that America’s Hispanic population can eventually be integrated into the white population if we start trying to do that. Of course, that means cutting off legal and illegal immigration starting now and sending everyone who isn’t a citizen home. Assuming that the average Hispanic American is 60% Latin American indigenous ancestry, that works out to an average 10% Latin American indigenous for the average American. That’s a lot of diversity (which, as we know, is our weakness, not our strength) to absorb. We can cut that down a little by paying Hispanic citizens to move somewhere else and give up their citizenship.

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    Latin American mestizos are not such a formidable population that it's inevitable that America must bend the knee to their adamantine will to dominate. Simple steps, such as eliminating affirmative action for Hispanics, will lead many to identify with their white ancestors.
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  • From a blog called Everything Studies: The Nerd as the Norm: ... Using the implied definition in “Field Guide”, here’s a cluster of psychological traits that in my mind make up the nerd pattern: an interest in things and ideas over people a concern for correctness over social harmony a preference for routine and predictability...
  • Perhaps like many isteve readers, I’m one of those “people nerd” types, with an interest in people and ideas over things.

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  • From the Toronto Sun: 'He was smiling': Girl, 11, recounts man slicing hijab with scissors Jenny Yuen January 12, 2018 Khawlah Noman and her brother had only been walking for two minutes when she became aware a man was following them on their way to school Friday morning. The 11-year-old — a Grade 6 student...
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  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @dearieme
    "also in having German ancestors, which Hitler lacks almost completely": oh balls. The Austrians were always viewed as Germans until the Prussians were able to establish their German Empire in 1871.

    Therefore all Hitlers ancestors were German.

    Later than 1871, btw. The founders of the post-Habsburg Austria called their republic “German Austria”. I’d say popular acceptance that AustriaGermany dates to about 1945.

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  • From the NYT op-ed page: It's a program promoting Family Disunification. Oberlin should give out athletic scholarships via lottery. Maybe they do ... Wasn't
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  • From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: Protests turn violent in Delmar Loop late Saturday; second night of post-verdict strife Unrest in the Loop Laurie Skrivan [email protected] Second day of protests after Stockley acquitted David Carson UNIVERSITY CITY • For the second consecutive night, peaceful daytime protests descended into late-night violence with broken windows and thrown rocks,...
  • Looks just like the beginning of the movie Detroit. I’m going to just go ahead and assume that an evil white policeman is to blame.

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    If it is like Detroit, the racist outrage that will cause the riot won't occur for another day or two.
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  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there. Here's 23andMe's racial ancestry report for Anne Wojcicki (Susan Wojcicki's racial background is presumably similar):
  • Classic Korean horror reference, easily one of my favorite films of the previous decade.

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  • I give classicist Donna Zuckerberg a hard time, but it couldn't have been easy growing up as Mark Zuckerberg's sister. I suspect there are a lot of unresolved issues among the Zuckerberg siblings, especially when your brother, the richest and most powerful man of his generation, probably radiates the assurance that he'd have been a...
  • I’m not sure I get the psychoanalysis thing. What did Paleo Retiree talk about in his analysis, if not venting about family members? Something that prevented him from making money?

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  • From the Legal Information Institute: You know, declaring your city a Sanctuary City sounds like a pretty sweet deal politically, except that there is this federal law that says you'll be "imprisoned not more than 10 years." Ten years is a lot.
  • @Mark Caplan
    The statute penalizes those who help illegal aliens enter the country. Shielding aliens who are already here falls outside its purview.

    If this were a law that liberals wanted to use against their enemies, then for sure it would be interpreted as broadly as necessary. “Oh, come on,” they would insinuate, “we all know who is a who here and who a whom.” But if the Trump administration tried to use this for their purposes, then quite possibly judges would refuse to allow it.

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  • In that New York Times article I quoted about how the U. of Saskatchewan is going to de-emphasize white "linear thinking" in favor of circular reasoning as exemplified by "wampum belt, dances and oral storytelling," the explanation given for all the problems of Amerindians in Canada was: Residential schools were set up by white progressive...
  • Geez, why should someone who is willing to burn a child with cigarettes ever get out of prison? He isn’t going to be rehabilitated after 4 years in prison, either. Seriously, if we stipulate that this guy was driven mad by his own traumatic childhood, then I have a certain kind of sympathy for him. But he’s never going to stop being a menace to society.

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    I think that's the reasoning behind the sentence: "He isn’t going to be rehabilitated after 4 years in prison". So why spend a ton of money on this guy's rehabilitation? So that when he gets out he won't do violence to aboriginal women? He probably will and the courts and government don't care anyway.
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    It's important to remember that although, for practical purposes, there's no such thing as rehabilitation (or if there is, it's something that happens sporadically and more or less on accident), there is such a thing as mellowing out in one's old age.

    The "mellowing out" curve is probably steepest from age 15-35 or so, and I think even 5 years in that age bracket can make a meaningful difference in one's likelihood to commit violent felonies. Of course, more time is always better.

    To the degree that we have any prison sentences besides "life without parole", aging is the only rational basis for it. You can probably achieve 95% of the benefits of a life sentence at much lower cost if you let young people out of prison after 30 or so years.
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  • Tony Soprano and the boys have a pow-wow with the chief of the Mohunk casino Indians. Here's Trump complaining that casino Indians don't always look like Indian Indians:
  • @Kevin O'Keeffe

    The series or season with Buscemi was weak.
     
    Are you joking? That was like the best season! It's true, the character of Tony's brother, had barely been mentioned previously...but when Steve Buscemi agrees to play the brother for a season, then it's time to flesh out the role.

    I must say that I share your bemusement, Kevin O’Keeffe. Unsolicited yet concise Sopranos reviews follow: for my money, the last season, Season 6 was all kinds of terrible. I don’t know what the root problem was, but everything went wrong. On the other side, naturally Season 1 is one of the all-time greats, a classic which not much could compare to. This makes sense because the Sopranos was originally conceived as a plot for a movie, which eventually became the first season: it’s not surprising that it has a satisfying, thematically coherent story arc.

    As far as the four middle seasons go, none were bad, all were entertaining and well-made, but they improved over time. Season 2 was fine but it seemed a bit redundant and aimless, lacked a certain verve. Season 3 was better, Season 4 improved on that (Joey Pants just kept getting better and better), and then by Season 5, the one with Buscemi, they were really firing on all cylinders, although never matching the heights of the first season. Somehow, Chase managed to completely lose his touch during the long break before the last season.

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    You know what was wrong with Season Six? One big thing: Hollywood lately consistently screws up the early part when they split final installments of long-running series. It's usually a naked cash grab, as with Harry Potter, Twilight, and especially The Hobbit, out of which they made three giant movies instead of what should have been one modest (compared to Lord of the Rings, at least) movie. On tv, the Sopranos launched a trend of it, I think. Breaking Bad did it okay, but even then the first half felt like a buildup to the second instead of its own thing.

    Some other points:

    ·They made a whole thing out of the gay mobster, in the interest of topicality, I guess. Which wasn't interesting enough to sustain an entire half-season.

    ·They screwed up writing off Johnny Sack, I think, who would have made a much better final adversary than the boring Phil Leotardo.

    ·Junior shooting Tony led to a good couple episodes, and I'm not a fan of fantasy sequences. But it severed the Tony-Junior relationships, which was one of the show's strongest. They gave them a scene together in the finale, but was that worth keeping them apart for so long?

    ·They shifted focus from the daughter to the son, which wasn't a good idea considering the son is a crappy actor.

    ·They were deliberately anticlimactic with a lot of characters. Christopher and the doctor lady were written off the show well before the finale.

    ·The final season didn't exactly abandon the show structure, but to a certain degree it renounced ongoing storylines in favor of what I might call set-piece episodes. Here's the Christopher dies episode , there's the Tony and Paulie take a trip episode,the Tony Gambles episode, and the Anthony fails to off himself episode.

    Because they couldn't just have episodes. They had to be Special, Meaningful Episodes.

    ·The ending was a big eff you. I assume the point is supposed to be he's dead, but come on. How about you show us how and why? I know why they didn't: because they wanted to keep things open for a potential movies
    , @Brutusale
    One of the main writers on the show's first three seasons, Frank Renzulli, was born and raised in the old Italian neighborhood of East Boston. He knew more than a few mobsters.
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  • From Wikipedia on the Beaker Culture that started spreading rapidly across Europe about 5,000 years ago: But today it turns out to have been People, Not Pots. Robert E. Howard proves once again to have had a better understanding of prehistoric Europe than cultural anthropologists. From bioRxiv: The Beaker Phenomenon And The Genomic Transformation Of...
  • So, the British (i.e. the people who are to blame for Brexit) are basically a Putinist plot avant la lettre designed to undermine democracy. Don’t their leaders have not just the right but the duty to dissolve them and provide a more polite and reliable people instead?

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  • From the NYT: In other words, this isn't a new idea. They'd tried it a decade ago and gave up. There are lots of awards that don't separate the sexes, such as the Nobel Prizes. What happens is that men usually win. I'm sure there will be a big push in the op-ed columns for...
  • @Steve Sailer
    Somebody else liked "Constantine."

    Personally, I liked nothing about it other than the Tilda Swinton performance, which was fantastic.

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  • I’d guess maybe an 8% chance Le Pen ekes out a narrow victory. Better​ than a one-in-a-hundred shot, but worse than Trump’s chances a day before our election last year.

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  • @Judah Benjamin Hur

    that down the road some white gentiles *somewhere* will get their act together, regain their self-confidence, their self-regard, and build an explicitly white gentile nation
     
    Moldova looks very promising.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXTRjNgMZaY

    Moldova looks very promising.

    Not a sentence that has seen a lot of use since about 1350!

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    It was still going strong in 1475, but the writing was on the wall. The fall of Constantinople sealed it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vaslui
    Interestingly enough, the Republic of Moldova is just a third of the historic kingdom, more than half being in Romania and the rest in Ukraine, since the USSR took off the South (the Budjak) and the North (Northern Bukovina) from Bessarabia after WW2. By now, there are not many Romanians left in the Ukrainian portions, due to post-war deportations and assimilation.
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  • The beating of Middlebury professor Alison Stanger for daring to converse with Charles Murray instead of screeching at him has struck a lot of liberals as a disgrace. For example, black studies professor Cornel West joined with Robert P. George in issuing an open letter in response to Middlebury: Sign the Statement: Truth Seeking, Democracy,...
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    He was making a similar argument to the one I was making with SPMoore.

    Basically, libertarianism wrought (way too) large has nuked a great deal of our common mores. People feel this in their bones, and the SJWs have exploited that feeling. The solution to the SJWs isn't re-nuking it with another serving of libertarianism (i.e. free speech fundamentalism). It's to point out the bold-faced lies of the SJWs (while also rebuilding the institutions and traditions which originally established those mores in the first place).
    , @anon
    From that article:

    If people actually care about free speech, the number one thing they can do right now is very loudly invoke it every time a liberal is silenced.
     
    Yeah, because that happens so often.

    If we have to wait for that, free speech is screwed.
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  • I’m hopeful that the uproar in his comments section will inspire Scott Alexander to rethink his position on this topic.

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    In the words of Upton Sinclair, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
    , @Desiderius
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  • From the New York Times, an account of an HBD interface that I've mentioned before: As I've mentioned before, the Pine Ridge Sioux Indian reservation is just about the most tragic place in America. The Native Americans have imposed Prohibition on themselves, but Whiteclay, Nebraska is a town that mostly exists to sell beer to...
  • Wikipedia’s express purpose is to summarise information from élite sources, such as academic research, in encyclopedia form. A Wikipedia article will unavoidably be bad if the academic research is bad (see: White pride). For articles on race, we’re stuck with the stuff and nonsense of academic social science, but the goal should be to force the inclusion of facts from hard science, i.e. biology and genetics (I’m sure most Wikipedia editors are going to default more toward soft science material). The hard part there is the “squid ink” urge on the part of hard scientists, not wanting to come out and clearly contradict the verities of left-wing social science.

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    but the goal should be to force the inclusion of facts from hard science, i.e. biology and genetics
     
    Why? Anyone with a grain of common sense knows that Wikipedia is chock full of cant and Lysenkoism and just regard the info there accordingly.
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  • The downfall of numerous previously stable Bronze Age civilizations in the Fertile Crescent/Eastern Mediterranean around 1200 BC, leading to a Dark Ages of several centuries, is known as the Late Bronze Age Collapse (a.k.a., World War Zero). But maybe the warmer weather civilizations didn't so much collapse 3200 years ago as were knocked over, directly...
  • @SPMoore8
    The differences in the language families (e.g., German vs. Romance vs. Balto-Slavic) is why people talk about native substrates over which the IE culture took over. (This is a bit like the argument earlier in this thread that the Sumers built their civilization on an IE substrate.)

    It's interesting and I have no clue, and I think we have to admit that quite a bit of this is highly speculative. Just for IE peoples, we tend to associate the language family with particular archaeological remains (thus, Yamnaya), but also chariots, also horses and livestock (this is the dominant view today) but also (Colin Renfrew) with the introduction of agriculture into Europe, which, in light of linguistic and archaeological evidence in Turkey (that Hittite was IE, that the monuments in Turkey presuppose agriculture) suggests that maybe, just maybe, there were IE speakers throughout the Fertile Crescent.

    But again, all of this is highly speculative and we need a theory that not only explains the most evidence the most convincingly but also doesn't just appeal to self-love. And it's that last part that causes most historical theories to run aground.

    Krause et al.’s findings support either the Anatolian or Kurgan hypotheses for IE origins. If agriculture was introduced along with IE languages, that would be the former. In that case, that makes PIE pretty damn early (unconventional, but, sure, why not?) and means that the Basal Eurasians, at least some of them, spoke Indo European … which, like you’re saying, would support Euphratic-type ideas. In that scenario, what is Basque? A relict WHG language? Or a relic of linguistic diversity among the Basals? Later obscured by the dominance of the main Basal language (i.e. PIE in this scenario).

    And then, what would be the linguistic impact of the Yamnaya-like people (half-Hyperboreans)? Different Indo-European languages? Proto-Celtic? Pre-Germanic? Or Balto-Slavic (Balts have the highest proportion of Yamnaya-like ancestry, right?)? Or Uralic? I seem to recall the thinking is none of the time frames work for those scenarios, but I don’t know what the details are for that claim.

    If we’re looking at a double Indo European invasion, then we’d expect to see lots of IE-on-IE substrate languages. Not that we would necessarily know what to look for to detect that.

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  • So, somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 years after the last major pre-modern demographic incursion, per Johannes Krause et al., that shaped Europeans as we know them. For those not up on your Krause et al., that would be Yamnaya-like peoples, not wiping out the previous inhabitants, but contributing a lot of genes basically everywhere in Europe (only a little for Basques and Sardinians, quite a bit everywhere else, majorities in some places). These Yamnayoids very likely brought Indo-European languages, unless maybe those were present already.

    Note that, while this was the last major incursion from outside Europe, that obviously doesn’t rule out further major incursions from one part of Europe into another.

    Proto-Germanic spread from what’s now Denmark and/or southern Sweden and would have developed somewhere in the range of 1500 to 500 BCE. That said, it doesn’t seem particularly similar to any other Indo-European branches, so Pre-Germanic might have been a distinct dialect quite a bit earlier than that. Germanic pre-history is a bit opaque, since the Germanic homeland is right on the fringes of the Indo-European world, but it doesn’t seem to be particularly related to its nearest relatives, Celtic and Balto-Slavic. So, how did they end up there? There were presumably some really interesting historical events that occurred before anything got written down and so are unknown to us. Not that the Proto-Germanics necessarily migrated from afar. Maybe the simplest model (I’m just coming up with top-of-the-head) is that there was once a larger “Old Old Baltic” Indo-European phylum, including Pre-Germanic plus other related dialects. But then they lost a lot of their territory to the Celtic expansion and what was left was all wiped out by the Balto-Slavs and Baltic Finns, except for the per se Proto-Germanics way out on the periphery … and all this before any written history, leaving no obvious traces.

    Anyway, my point is that, while I have no idea whether this particular battle had anything to do with Germanic prehistory, I have no trouble believing that there were beaucoup sagas’ worth of wars and adventures in that part of the world before what we know about.

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    The differences in the language families (e.g., German vs. Romance vs. Balto-Slavic) is why people talk about native substrates over which the IE culture took over. (This is a bit like the argument earlier in this thread that the Sumers built their civilization on an IE substrate.)

    It's interesting and I have no clue, and I think we have to admit that quite a bit of this is highly speculative. Just for IE peoples, we tend to associate the language family with particular archaeological remains (thus, Yamnaya), but also chariots, also horses and livestock (this is the dominant view today) but also (Colin Renfrew) with the introduction of agriculture into Europe, which, in light of linguistic and archaeological evidence in Turkey (that Hittite was IE, that the monuments in Turkey presuppose agriculture) suggests that maybe, just maybe, there were IE speakers throughout the Fertile Crescent.

    But again, all of this is highly speculative and we need a theory that not only explains the most evidence the most convincingly but also doesn't just appeal to self-love. And it's that last part that causes most historical theories to run aground.
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  • @Almost Missouri
    Do you mean 3200 years ago (=1200BC)?

    The Nature chart x-axis is scaled to Kilo-Years Ago rather than to Christian dates.

    The War on Christmas continues apace!

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  • If you go back about 3500 years ago, the Late Bronze Age was going pretty smoothly with big, fairly stable civilizations / empires in the Fertile Crescent, Egypt, and Greece. But around 1200 B.C. most everything fell apart, leading to a dark age out of which eventually emerged a new Iron Age civilization. For example,...
  • @Buzz Mohawk
    Steve often reads my mind through my tinfoil hat. (Actually it's Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil.)

    I was just remembering last night that I read somewhere (here on Unz?) that maybe the ancient Europeans like the Greeks and even perhaps the Romans were more Northern European than we think today. What I mean is, maybe there were waves of people who came up from the south into Europe and mixed with and displaced the more northern types.

    In other words, perhaps the folks you meet in Greece and Rome today aren't really like the ancients who built their great old civilizations.

    If this sounds like the ramblings of a poorly educated man lazily writing a comment on a sunny day, it is.

    Anyway, not having any Latin in me that I'm aware of, I am suspicious of the way our Roman-dominated history depicts the Germanic peoples, people like "Attila the Hun," for example, as "barbarians." There are great peoples all over Europe who trace their ancestry to those "barbarians." Today those people are kicking the economic crap out of the Latins and Mediterranians who claim the great ancient Rome and Greece as their own.

    Bottom line: Maybe the threat that is washing up on European shores now is just like previous waves down through history.

    (In a similar vein, "Global Warming" is something that has happened repeatedly in Earth's long history. The current trend is just part of the latest cycle. Of THIS I am certain. It is natural, and what we must do is prepare for it, NOT blame ourselves and destroy our way of life.)

    Very likely that the ancients were less “Mediterranean” looking than their modern posterity is. But the simplest explanation is that that’s post-Islamic. Remember that Sicily and parts of southern Italy were ruled by Arabs for a couple hundred years.

    If invading Sea Peoples repopulated parts of the eastern Mediterranean after the collapse, genome research would show the effect. Could be, but I don’t remember hearing about it. Note that Greece was already Greek-speaking and stayed that way. Egypt remained Egyptian-speaking.

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  • "Diversity" is our highest value. But people seem to disagree on exactly what it means in practice. To blacks, it means that blacks should win all the Grammys and Oscars. After all, nothing could be more Diverse than Beyonce winning all 80 or so Grammys every single year. To Angelo Mozilo, Diversity meant that Hispanics...
  • @Steve Sailer
    Stalin was roughly Chief Diversity Officer for Lenin in the early pre-1917 Bolsheviks. He pushed ethnic folk dancing.

    If you were a Chechen, a Crimean Tatar, a Kalmyk, etc., you might have later on wished that Stalin had never learned that much about the Soviet Union’s ethnic diversity …

    Note that, despite endorsing the idea in the 30s before coming to power, by 1949, Mao decided to reject the Soviet model of ethnic socialist republics that on paper were so autonomous that they could unilaterally secede. Of course, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao all knew very well that what it says in the constitution ain’t necessarily so, but, still, making such extravagant claims on paper had the potential to become an annoyance. Mao instead opted for what is on paper the Åland model.

    When I was teaching in China 10 years ago, my impression was the students (college undergrads) were used to a discourse that was anxious to talk about China’s “minorities” (a word they employed frequently in English; the Chinese term is 少数民族 shǎoshù mínzú, lit. “few-number ethny”) in the same terms that Americans talk about American minorities. I have to imagine that’s because, the way we’re used to looking at things, nobody thinks of minorities in America as groups that are entitled to national self-determination, whereas numerous ethnic groups in China could easily be construed as “nations”. Obviously the former is preferable to the powers that be.

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  • @Peter Akuleyev
    Political Correctness and diversity are, like, in the Bylaws of our Communist Party here; hell, we cut-and-pasted the PC part directly from Chairman Mao’s red book!

    What nonsense. For all of Mao's and Stalin's many many flaws neither of were in the slightest PC or pro-diversity. Celebration of ethnic diversity is a complete heresy in the eyes of a committed Marxist because it distracts from the class struggle, which is supposedly the only struggle that counts. Both Mao and Stalin considered that Mankind's goal was to create a technologically advanced, educated society based around a canon of great works and noble historic figures, with no tolerance for deviant sexual behavior, superstition, "feudal traditions" or any sort of 3rd world romanticism. Western PC is not Marxist, it developed more as a response to the complete failure of Marxism as an economic model. I'm guessing the rationale is - "Actually taking over the means of production is too hard, but maybe we can guilt the capitalists into just giving us stuff".

    But love the Patton quote, btw.

    For all of Mao’s and Stalin’s many many flaws neither of were in the slightest PC or pro-diversity.

    Arguably true if you read between the lines. If you go by overt statements, Mao strongly favored left-wing style diversity. The early PRC established the vast array of officially “ethnic autonomous” government entities. They also underwent an extensive program of categorising all citizens by ethnic group (producing the famous-to-Chinese-people list of 56 official ethnic groups of China) for the express purpose of making quotas for their inclusion in the government. These quotas are still in place today – for everything except the really important positions, of course.

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    Stalin was roughly Chief Diversity Officer for Lenin in the early pre-1917 Bolsheviks. He pushed ethnic folk dancing.
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  • NOTE: If you are interested in the Oroville Dam disaster in California, I've been updating my earlier post about it below.   The funny thing is that, due to our pervasive mental atmosphere that makes noticing patterns disreputable, almost nobody has noticed how funny this phenomenon is: that there exists a rare form of mental...
  • The Wachowskis’ Sense8 netflix series was a cringefest of politically correct tropes. The m-to-f transsexual character was the most dramatically lionised of the bunch, natch. (I don’t remember why I was up for watching 8 episodes of it – no idea what they’ve done with the characters since then).

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  • From the UC Berkeley Daily Californian: On November 7, 2016, I blogged about illegal alien Juan Prieto's anti-free speech op-ed in the New York Times: NYT: Undocumented Student Denounces Free Speech on Immigration Policy STEVE SAILER • NOVEMBER 7, 2016 • From the New York Times: Even
  • @Almost Missouri

    "reading on how mixed income housing has affected similar nice, quiet neighborhoods"
     
    I would skip the reading--I think you already know the answer--and go directly to finding out who is sponsoring it and how to stop them.

    Well, I’ll say that I know it’s not going to be good for the neighboring, but I’m not sure how bad it’s going to be. CHA seems to have actually learned a lesson or two since the days when they built Cabrini Green and Henry Horner, so I don’t anticipate that it will be a grievous, festering wound. Anyway, if I can dig up some straight dope on previous experiences with similar projects, it might help me convince my neighbors to fight this.

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  • OT: My nice, quiet Chicago neighborhood is abuzz with talk of the large mixed income housing building that is going to be built here. Any suggested reading on how mixed income housing has affected similar nice, quiet neighborhoods in Chicago or other cities?

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    "reading on how mixed income housing has affected similar nice, quiet neighborhoods"
     
    I would skip the reading--I think you already know the answer--and go directly to finding out who is sponsoring it and how to stop them.
    , @dc.sunsets
    Rockford, IL is trying to dump a complex into an otherwise middle class area.

    This isn't even a done deal, but violent crime is exploding out from Rockford's historically black West Side and people all over the city are now being awakened to the sound of magazine dumps within a mile of their homes...gang shootings at the local (nice) mall...car-jackings at the nice grocery stores...a new experience for most. It's educational to see a TV news report where the little plastic evidence markers in the street hit numbers like "43." Yes, forty-three spent shell casings. No, it's not a Quentin Tarantino movie set.

    Those who think any concentration at all, even two Section 8 houses on a street, won't become a gangrenous wound that kills off everything nearby are fooling themselves.

    BTW, where do we think those who lived in Cabrini Green went? Hint: mostly Rockford and Peoria.

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  • "Hygge" is a Danish word that has something to do with wool socks, hot beverages, and fireplaces. Sounds good to me. Cold toes are the bane of my existence. Oh, by the way, hygge is racist / Trumpist, according to Slate: Denmark’s Hygge Aesthetic Is Comfy, Cozy, and Complicit With the Rise of Xenophobic Populism...
  • I heard a podcast about hygge just a few days ago and I was gobsmacked. It reminds me a little of the #squadgoals craze-in-a-teapot from last year. #squadgoals is apparently a (then-new) hashtag that means doing activities with your friends. No one had heard of this before twitter introduced it to us. Likewise, hygge means sitting someplace comfortable and talking with your friends or family while drinking wine or herbal tea. This is evidently a recent import developed by the high-tech Danes.

    I guess the thing that we want to talk about somehow aren’t quite getting squarely at is this: hygge, which is of course a normal part of human social life, is in shorter supply than ever before because of our work-life balance problems, screens, and general bowling alone-ness. Acting like hygge is something somebody thought up is incredibly dumb, but the question should be: how can we Make America Hygge Again?

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  • “The loss of its empire?” Iceland? The Danelaw? Vinland? The American Virgin Islands?

    Silence! History is a hatefact. One need hardly know about such things to write a right-thinking Jeremiad. In fact, ignorance can often be more conducive to telling the truer truth.

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  • Commenter Inscrutoroku Japamoto, after pointing out examples of Russian-Israeli interpenetration, suggests: The present world has an unwritten general rule of sort, with numerous exceptions, that countries shouldn't get bigger, or at least not all at once -- e.g., China is supposed to take 50 years to digest Hong Kong. And especially not by military conquest....
  • a three way deal in which Russia and the United States recognize Israel’s 1967 acquisitions, such as the Golan Heights, and Israel and the United States recognize Russia’s retaking of Crimea.

    I’m sure A-Lieb would like that, but it leaves out sort of a crucial component: what do we, the Americans, get in the deal? How about, Russia joins us in pressuring China to detach Tibet? The geostrategic benefits for the U.S. (and India) are obvious. Just one problem: no amount of Russo-American pressure is going to make that happen in a million billion years, unless things turn bad in China in a serious way. If China does start to fall apart (which I don’t foresee, but you never know) then I could imagine a scenario where Russia’s alignment makes the difference as to whether they are able to hold onto Tibet or not.

    Putin could offer to lay off the whole Donbas thing, leaving a secure pro-western Ukraine in place less Crimea. But, geez, what good does that do us, really? It would make Victoria Nuland happy, but for America in general, what’s the point?

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  • Just about the saddest place in America, on a lot measures, is the Pine Ridge Indian reservation for Oglala Lakota Sioux in South Dakota, just north of Nebraska. Few are terribly interested in the plight of American Indians these days compared to the early 1970s when they were in, so I've been wondering, without much...
  • @Wally
    You falsely assume Indians had it all together before Europeans arrived.

    They all get free rides for life and look what they do with themselves. I say screw 'em.

    'Nobel savages' debunked
    http://principia-scientific.org/crichton-environmentalism-religion/

    "And what about indigenous peoples, living in a state of harmony with the Eden-like environment? Well, they never did. On this continent, the newly arrived people who crossed the land bridge almost immediately set about wiping out hundreds of species of large animals, and they did this several thousand years before the white man showed up, to accelerate the process. And what was the condition of life? Loving, peaceful, harmonious? Hardly: the early peoples of the New World lived in a state of constant warfare. Generations of hatred, tribal hatreds, constant battles. The warlike tribes of this continent are famous: the Comanche, Sioux, Apache, Mohawk, Aztecs, Toltec, Incas. Some of them practiced infanticide, and human sacrifice. And those tribes that were not fiercely warlike were exterminated, or learned to build their villages high in the cliffs to attain some measure of safety."

    Well, I sure as hell don’t remember saying they were pacifists.

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  • @biz
    I've been through several of the larger Indian Reservations and I haven't noticed them having a bad attitude toward outsiders. Certainly nobody was ready to slit my throat. The poverty and some squalor was there, to be sure, but I don't think your description of the hostile attitude is correct.

    As for SJWs, they are remarkably unconcerned about the state of Native Americans, actually. They currently rank very low on the ethnicity victim hierarchy, about a million points below, for example, Muslims.

    Perhaps because it’s harder for them to pretend they are innocent and only the badwhites are guilty, given that they live in North America, too. I mean, this assumes there’s guilt to go around, but of course that’s the point of the blame the badwhites game.

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    Yes, that is definitely part of it.

    The other part is that for SJWs the worthiness of a group is directly proportional to that group's perceived (by SJWs) distance from and hostility to mainstream American and Western culture. That's why Muslims are far and away out in front in SJW concern, followed way behind by blacks, followed by people in the TI part of LGBTI (the L and the G having been largely dropped ever since they started to want to do things like get married, move to a house in the suburbs, and adopt kids) and those three are pretty much using up all of the oxygen at present.
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  • Didn’t Pine Ridge get a little better? They don’t still have the top murder rates in the country, do they? Or maybe Pine Ridge stayed the same and certain other places just got worse.

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  • @Hockamaw
    To visit an indian reservation is to be appalled by the state of abject squalor and degeneracy to be found there. It is worse than the worst black ghetto or white hillbilly mountain hollow. It is easy to pity the Indians, but also extremely important to realize most would sooner slit your throat than tell you good morning. They are not like us, and the SJWs who gleefully blame the white man for the terrible state of the natives really miss the entire point.

    Unlike most stuff that we get casually accused of, it’s hard to see how this one could be considered not our (i.e. the Cisgender White Man’s) fault. Indians who want to slit your throat are the original American immigration restrictionists.

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    You falsely assume Indians had it all together before Europeans arrived.

    They all get free rides for life and look what they do with themselves. I say screw 'em.

    'Nobel savages' debunked
    http://principia-scientific.org/crichton-environmentalism-religion/

    "And what about indigenous peoples, living in a state of harmony with the Eden-like environment? Well, they never did. On this continent, the newly arrived people who crossed the land bridge almost immediately set about wiping out hundreds of species of large animals, and they did this several thousand years before the white man showed up, to accelerate the process. And what was the condition of life? Loving, peaceful, harmonious? Hardly: the early peoples of the New World lived in a state of constant warfare. Generations of hatred, tribal hatreds, constant battles. The warlike tribes of this continent are famous: the Comanche, Sioux, Apache, Mohawk, Aztecs, Toltec, Incas. Some of them practiced infanticide, and human sacrifice. And those tribes that were not fiercely warlike were exterminated, or learned to build their villages high in the cliffs to attain some measure of safety."

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  • In Vox, Matthew Yglesias puts forward an idea for how the Democrats can retake the Rust Belt states: by actually doing something beneficial for those states. Let’s relocate a bunch of government agencies to the Midwest Time to shift economic activity from the overcrowded coasts to places that need more of it. Updated by Matthew...
  • And for gosh sakes, can we get the Supreme Court out of DC? There’s no reason the justices need to be physically close to Congress and the White House. Council Bluffs, Iowa has a nice ring to it.

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    And for gosh sakes, can we get the Supreme Court out of DC? There’s no reason the justices need to be physically close to Congress and the White House. Council Bluffs, Iowa has a nice ring to it.

     

    Nah, they might be distracted by the big-city temptations right across the river in Omaha. Sioux City would be much better.
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  • From the Chicago Tribune: This lawsuit sounds pretty plausible considering it's about the defendant's office in Cicero, Illinois. Cicero adjoins the west side of Chicago. (Cicero's upscale Oak Park neighborhood,
  • Incidentally, Cicero is home to a Tibetan Buddhist temple located in a former fire station, dedicated to the Karmapa, who is the 2nd or 3rd most prestigious Tibetan lama. Generally, Chicago’s Buddhist temples are located in places where either Asian immigrants or SWPL types live. The temple in Cicero is there because, back in the 1970s, they asked the 16th Karmapa where they should put his temple and he pointed at that spot on a map of Chicagoland. The same Karmapa later passed away in Zion, IL, where he had been receiving treatment for cancer.

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  • As white people have moved more and more from suburban to urban locations, the cry has gone up that poor, crime-prone blacks must be rescued from the horrors of having to live close by booming downtowns and relocated to distant suburbs without much public transit or, ideally, to dying small cities. For their own good,...
  • My father lived in Lathrop Homes, a smaller housing project on the north side of Chicago, for the first two years of his life. His older brothers lived there during their formative years and they loved it. The only reason his family left Lathrop was because his father started making too much money and couldn’t qualify for public housing any more. They missed the community spirit that flourished in Lathrop’s common areas.

    Somehow, Lathrop Homes had magic dirt back then. The dirt quality has degraded a lot in the decades since. The culprit is probably Republican pro-unkindness policies.

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  • From the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: Racist posters promoting 'alt-right' alarm Toronto residents Police investigate after posters went up directing people to 'pro-European' news sources Kate McGillivray · CBC News 15 Minutes Ago A Toronto resident who says she was horrified to see a "racist" poster on a pole while walking to her children's school on...
  • @silviosilver
    A simple question: is criticizing the behavior of organized Jewry legitimate or not?

    We can talk about the details later.

    Organised Jewry, such the State of Israel, AIPAC, and B’nai B’rith? Criticism of them is not merely legitimate, I think it should be encouraged. What’s trickier is what to make of decentralised Jewish influence in the media, academia, Wall Street, etc.

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    Good to hear. Pardon me for running that litmus test on you, but I have found it can save a lot of time.
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  • In the long run, we’re all JAMs.

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  • From the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: Racist posters promoting 'alt-right' alarm Toronto residents Police investigate after posters went up directing people to 'pro-European' news sources Kate McGillivray · CBC News 15 Minutes Ago A Toronto resident who says she was horrified to see a "racist" poster on a pole while walking to her children's school on...
  • @dfordoom

    You think what we’re talking about is noticing? I’m talking about people who say “Heil Hitler” and “gas the Jews”. That type of BS is a distraction from noticing the stuff you’re talking about.
     
    There's a certain element on the alt-right that reminds me of the punks in the late 70s. It's all about shocking your parents. These days the parents that these people are trying to shock are ultra-liberals so anything to do with Hitler is good shock material.

    It's tiresome and childish and counter-productive but you can't reason with them.

    At the moment the alt-right is suffering from absurd delusions of grandeur and they're developing a sadly misplaced sense of triumphalism.

    The people who elected Trump had mostly never even heard of the alt-right. The alt-right's influence on the election was virtually zero. I'm not opposed to the alt-right (although I disagree very strongly with them on many points) but they need to learn to be a lot more sensible and realistic. At this point their chances of winning the hearts and minds of ordinary people are pretty much non-existent. They need to drop the Pepe the Frog thing - it makes them look silly.

    Fair enough. I wouldn’t give much thought except that I kind of like them. And I’ve been somewhat impressed that they’ve achieved some level of organisation, especially given that they often seem like they’d be unpleasant to be around (for contrast, if you’ve ever hung out with Greens, their politics never made a lot of sense to me, but they’re just so warm and fuzzy, it makes you feel like, sure! Let’s have a Green Party convention. Whatever).

    It’s hard to measure the influence of a intellectual/ideological movement such as the alt-right, anyway. Spencer had interesting musings about the relationship between an intellectual movement and a populist movement (i.e. Trump supporters). They’re not the same thing, but perhaps they interact.

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  • @Svigor

    The problems I have with the alt-right are their radical anti-Semitism and their rejection of liberal democracy. If we wanted to change our society that much, why not just convert to Salafi Islam?
     
    The problems I have with the critics of the alt-right is that all they have is stupid shit like this.

    Stupid shit such as bothering to kind of reply to a comment but then not actually writing any arguments or making any points in response? Yeah, I hate it when that happens.

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  • @melendwyr
    Various alt-Right sites are dedicated to free discussion of contentious topics. Which means that even anti-Semitic ramblings tend to be tolerated there.

    It's not quite the same thing as having anti-Semitism be a feature of the alt-Right itself. Hitler had a very restricted diet - that doesn't mean that vegetarianism advocates are also supporting Hitler.

    If you think that anti-Semitism and fascism are peripheral to Spencer and TRS, that they just tolerate a few weirdos leaving rambling comments on their sites, you either haven’t been paying attention or kidding yourself.

    Now, to be fair, that’s not the entirety of the alt-right. I don’t remember Millennial Woes weighing in on either the JQ or democracy one way or the other (he did come out against “peaceful ethno-nationalism”, i.e. in favor of violent ethno-nationalism, but that was on the grounds that he believes peace is impossible anyway). It’s hard to tell what Murdoch Murdoch does or doesn’t believe in exactly since he works in the medium of self-referential parody. I will say for Ram-Z-Paul that I’ve never actually heard him say anything anti-Semitic, although I’m sure the self-appointed Emil Zolas think he’s super anti-Semitic. I like Ram-Z-Paul just fine, but isn’t he kind of a sellout pinko by alt-right standards?

    Naturally, it all comes down to who you think of as being part of the alt right and who isn’t. In my mind, it’s the people who fit in with Spencer (who coined the term, after all). I’m not a New York Times headline writer, trying to sell the idea that Steve Bannon is a neo-nazi. But, as for the kind of guys who want to see Lion of the Blogosphere in their death camps, might as well call a spade a spade.

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    Oy vey. You probably should tone down that hate-filled semitism a little bit. It's very intolerant.
    , @silviosilver
    A simple question: is criticizing the behavior of organized Jewry legitimate or not?

    We can talk about the details later.
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  • Who's in, who's out, who's in who ought to be out, who's out who ought to be in?
  • Judging by rumours so far in the press, zero chance of Pat Buchanan or Philip Giraldi in foreign policy positions, which is disappointing.

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  • From the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation: Racist posters promoting 'alt-right' alarm Toronto residents Police investigate after posters went up directing people to 'pro-European' news sources Kate McGillivray · CBC News 15 Minutes Ago A Toronto resident who says she was horrified to see a "racist" poster on a pole while walking to her children's school on...
  • @silviosilver
    The problem with that view is that merely noticing reality is 'anti-semitic.' Have you noticed that Jews are ethnocentric, culturally and politically influential, and use that influence to stifle even the most meagre pro-white initiative? That's virulent 'anti-semitism' right there. It's a noxious conspiracy theory canard.

    You think what we’re talking about is noticing? I’m talking about people who say “Heil Hitler” and “gas the Jews”. That type of BS is a distraction from noticing the stuff you’re talking about.

    Now, of course, absurd heights of sensitivity about anti-Semitism also drive people into the tender embrace of the 1488ers, because people get tired of being gaslighted. I’m happy to point it out when I see it, but I don’t have a ton of faith in being able to get through to the left. Our side should at least be able to talk sense.

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    You think what we’re talking about is noticing?
     
    That's all it takes to be denounced as an 'anti-semite.'

    but I don’t have a ton of faith in being able to get through to the left.
     
    Getting through to the left is not a high priority.

    Our side should at least be able to talk sense.
     
    Who says we can't?
    , @dfordoom

    You think what we’re talking about is noticing? I’m talking about people who say “Heil Hitler” and “gas the Jews”. That type of BS is a distraction from noticing the stuff you’re talking about.
     
    There's a certain element on the alt-right that reminds me of the punks in the late 70s. It's all about shocking your parents. These days the parents that these people are trying to shock are ultra-liberals so anything to do with Hitler is good shock material.

    It's tiresome and childish and counter-productive but you can't reason with them.

    At the moment the alt-right is suffering from absurd delusions of grandeur and they're developing a sadly misplaced sense of triumphalism.

    The people who elected Trump had mostly never even heard of the alt-right. The alt-right's influence on the election was virtually zero. I'm not opposed to the alt-right (although I disagree very strongly with them on many points) but they need to learn to be a lot more sensible and realistic. At this point their chances of winning the hearts and minds of ordinary people are pretty much non-existent. They need to drop the Pepe the Frog thing - it makes them look silly.
    , @MarkinLA
    You think what we’re talking about is noticing?

    Try going to any site that is heavily leftist or Jewish and post anything critical of Jews (and Israel on a Jewish site) and see how many times you are called an anti-Semite.
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  • The problems I have with the alt-right are their radical anti-Semitism and their rejection of liberal democracy. If we wanted to change our society that much, why not just convert to Salafi Islam?

    They occasionally remind me of the Larouche movement with their odd fixations. Notice how they neglect* to mention anything about Jewish conspiracies, degenerate gays, or fascism on their flier, although these are important alt-right themes, at least as far as TRS or Spencer are concerned.

    It’s important to provide a white-friendly political and cultural perspective that is relatively free of oddities like this.

    *(Actually, I’m not sure Larouchies ever had that much restraint. They’d probably get through about 2 and a half bullet points before they start making every other sentence about how the Queen of England is behind it all. So I salute this alt-right postermaker for staying on message).

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    The problem with that view is that merely noticing reality is 'anti-semitic.' Have you noticed that Jews are ethnocentric, culturally and politically influential, and use that influence to stifle even the most meagre pro-white initiative? That's virulent 'anti-semitism' right there. It's a noxious conspiracy theory canard.
    , @lavoisier
    I agree that the alt right is a little too extreme with their anti-Semitism and it can turn people off. It is wrong to hate an entire group of people simply because they are Jewish, and it dilutes the message that the West is truly under assault.

    But I think their reaction is in response to the destruction of Western Civilization that is continuing rapidly. They know that Jews, through their monopolistic control of the media, have been the group primarily responsible for turning Western nations into towers of Babel, and they are justifiably angry to see their cultures disintegrating.

    But there are many righteous Jews as well who are trying to preserve Western Civilization. And Jews have made, and continue to make, many valuable intellectual contributions to our civilization.

    It is sometimes good to remind oneself of that to avoid becoming too resentful.

    But it is dishonest to not notice how destructive the tribe has been towards Western nations and peoples. And it is important to be on guard. Because that destructive impulse can lead to mass murder. We are living in precarious times.

    , @melendwyr
    Various alt-Right sites are dedicated to free discussion of contentious topics. Which means that even anti-Semitic ramblings tend to be tolerated there.

    It's not quite the same thing as having anti-Semitism be a feature of the alt-Right itself. Hitler had a very restricted diet - that doesn't mean that vegetarianism advocates are also supporting Hitler.
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  • Trump has a lot of jobs to fill in three months. Put your suggestions in the comments.
  • @John Gruskos
    Early rumors at Zero Hedge look as bad as possible:

    Ultra-neocon insane bloodthirsty America-Last war hawk John Bolton as Secretary of State.

    Goldman-Sachs/Soros/Rothschild puppet Steve Mnuchin as Secretary of Treasury.

    Jeff Sessions shunted aside to a politically impotent post as Secretary of Defense. (Just like FDR did in 1940 when he appointed leading Republicans as secretaries of navy and war. It looked like a coalition, but they had absolutely no influence on policy).

    Sessions would be better off maintaining his independence as an Alabama senator, rather than being impotent window-dressing for a Bolton/Mnuchin cabinet.

    I was feeling super pessimistic … maybe that’s just paranoid, but I could picture Sen. Sessions getting offered Undersecretary of Veteran’s Affairs and everything else going to John Bolton & Newt Gingrich and clones of same. Maybe because I felt burned after hoping for somebody better than Pence for vp.

    I do feel cheered up by Kobach coming on board early, though.

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    I do feel cheered up by Kobach coming on board early, though.
     
    An auspicious sign. Shows DJ Trump's seriousness.
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  • This will be really interesting to watch. What type of people will appear in a Trump administration? Paleocon heavyweights like Pat Buchanan? Or the same old party insiders recommended by Paul Ryan and Reince Priebus? Or career Trump lackeys from his corporate organisation? The post-Bobby Kennedy nepotism laws would prohibit Ivanka, Kushner, or Donald, Jr. from serving in the cabinet, but I’m sure Trump has no shortage of other hangers-on.

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  • From The Conversation: Donald Trump and the rise of white identity in politics October 20, 2016 9.46pm EDT Eric D. Knowles Associate Professor of Psychology, New York University Linda R. Tropp Professor of Social Psychology, University of Massachusetts Amherst Many political commentators credit Donald Trump’s rise to white voters’ antipathy toward racial and ethnic minorities....
  • @Mr. Blank
    I have a small amount of Cherokee ancestry, and I've noticed that within the past decade or so there's been a surge of interest among younger members of my extended family about our "Native American heritage." Funny, but that just never came up much when I was a kid, even though everybody knew about it.

    I don't think these folks are consciously following a "flight from white" strategy -- at least not YET. But it seems pretty clear that they're just following the signals they're receiving from the culture: They receive the message that their white ancestry isn't something to be proud of, so they're looking for something in their ancestry that they are permitted to be proud of.

    If the Left keeps redlining the anti-white stuff, though, it's probably only a matter of time before this becomes a conscious, deliberate survival strategy. And eventually, one imagines, we'll end up with a society where genetic purity police are a thing. Great job, Lefties.

    Isn’t that kind of a special case, though? Hasn’t there always been an enthusiasm for trace Indian ancestry among white Americans? e.g. toity Virginia families tracing their ancestry back to Pocahontas.

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  • A couple of years ago, I launched my Unz Review, providing a wide range of different alternative perspectives, the vast majority of them totally excluded from the mainstream media. I've also published a number of articles in my own American Pravda series, focusing on the suspicious lapses and lacunae in our media narratives. The underlying...
  • What’s the end game? What would a lasting victory over the MSM look like?

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  • Since we're on the topic of religion, I thought I would make a book recommendation. If there is one book I would read on the Reformation if there was one book, it is Diarmaid MacCulloch's The Reformation. I read this magisterial work in 2004 over a week and it has stuck with me in a...
  • @Talha
    Hey ohwilleke,

    I'll take a crack at this...

    The foundations of Sunni Orthodoxy in Islam (it's the one that concerns us most since it has always been the super majority) are fairly solid - for both creed and jurisprudence. It is flexible - in a practical way - to a point...but not beyond that. There has always been dissent among the scholarship, but nothing was ever centralized like in Western Christendom, so dissent has always been part of the tradition...these opinions are then analyzed and either accepted or discarded. You will far more likely see secular authorities simply discarding rulings or such that they find impractical or feel are against their interest (Ottomans did this at times) - but an about-face from the qualified scholarship on a scale of what happened from the clergy in Europe is not likely.

    You are actually seeing attempts at reformation right now; Daesh is one extreme and at another extreme are people like Irshad Manji - but nothing on that level is coming from qualified scholarship or institutions.

    Another question to ask are regarding the underlying assumptions; the Western world is magnificent in its material accomplishments but it is losing faith or tenuously holding on to it - why would Muslim scholarship looking at this want to encourage this route? Islamic civilization was able to strike a balance between material accomplishment and faith in the past - so the paradigm we look to for success is different.

    Peace.

    the Western world is magnificent in its material accomplishments but it is losing faith or tenuously holding on to it – why would Muslim scholarship looking at this want to encourage this route?

    I think this is very important beyond the context of the Abrahamic religions, and for seculars as well as the religious (although of course different people will have different solutions in mind). I often remember hearing Brian Reynolds Myers talking about his book on North Korea a few years ago. He said that North Korean “propaganda” is very successful at instilling a sense of meaning in the lives of a lot of people there. Suicide is more common in South Korea than in North Korea, which Reynolds Myers argued is because of a common sense of meaninglessness among South Koreans. I thought to myself, “Jesus, we [i.e. people in liberal societies] are in bad trouble if we aren’t actually creating the conditions for lives that are more liveable than in North Korea!”

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  • Episode 728: The Wells Fargo Hustle. Elizabeth Warren is right, there won't be any accountability at the top. Hope I'm wrong. Started reading A New History of Western Philosophy last summer, but got bogged down in the medieval section. I started reading it last week and it's going much faster now that I'm in the...
  • I listened to the Planet Money episode, and I kept thinking … big picture, how much difference does it really make if Wells Fargo management was pressuring employees to break the law? Because what we know for sure is that they were pressuring employees to sell consumers products they didn’t need. Either way, Wells-Fargo management is profiting personally by providing nothing of value to society.

    Per Vankatesh Rao’s Gervais Principle (http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/10/14/the-gervais-principle-v-heads-i-win-tails-you-lose/), management was getting lazy if they actually had to order employees to break the law. The smart move is putting them in a position where you know they will decide to break the law on your behalf, while keeping your own hands completely clean.

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  • From the October edition of The Atlantic: Donald Trump, Sex Pistol The punk-rock appeal of the GOP nominee JAMES PARKER OCTOBER 2016 ISSUE CULTURE ... But imagine now that you could have it both ways—that you could simultaneously be the incensed everyman viewer and the tittering punker; the spluttering theatergoer and the soft-capped art hooligan....
  • @anon
    Wow, Steve. You should sue.

    Also. What is a "soft-capped art hooligan"? Should I be offended or is that just four random words stapled together to fill space?

    “If this is anybody but Steve Allen, you’re stealing my bit!”

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  • From the New York Post (not a poll, just a surmise following a Michelle appearance at George Mason U., which is one of the more conservative public colleges in the east):
  • @Jefferson
    "How soon can she be elected to the Senate from Illinois so she can follow the Hillary Clinton route? Durbin will be 76 in 2020, so he might not run again at that point."

    76 is not that old in the world of politics. The current president of Brazil is 76 years old, as he was born in 1940. He is old enough to be Steve Sailer's father.

    I agree. The Governor Turducken plan is quicker and more reliable. Maybe Rahm can talk her into it if she doesn’t like the sound of the job at first blush. Alternately, if Democrats win the White House this year, then perhaps Duckworth can be appointed Sec. of Defense in 2019.

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  • How soon can she be elected to the Senate from Illinois so she can follow the Hillary Clinton route? Durbin will be 76 in 2020, so he might not run again at that point. But then M.O. would have to wait a whole 4 long years without a suitably dignified office. Does Tammy Duckworth want to be governor of Illinois in 2018? Could she be talked into it? Then Michelle could simply be appointed to fill the vacancy. Surely holding an election is a mere formality barely necessary for a person of her caliber.

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    "How soon can she be elected to the Senate from Illinois so she can follow the Hillary Clinton route? Durbin will be 76 in 2020, so he might not run again at that point."

    76 is not that old in the world of politics. The current president of Brazil is 76 years old, as he was born in 1940. He is old enough to be Steve Sailer's father.
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  • When I say "how to think," I don't mean "what to think." I'm an old staff guy and my natural inclination is to figure out how to simplify the possible choices for the line guys, not make the decision myself. How to think about rearranging the Democratic ticket is to have three categories based on...
  • I feel like preserving some sense of continuity and order would be priority #1. Therefore, the presidential candidate could only be Sanders, Biden, or Tim Kaine. If Sanders or Biden, then Kaine must stay on VP candidate. If Kaine moves up to the top spot, then they have more options for what to do about the vice-president.

    Of the options, Biden/Kaine has a lot going for it. Sure, various persons would be annoyed that the ticket is two white men again, but the excuse is it’s an emergency! … and we’ve brought you Obama’s right hand man instead!

    If it’s to be Kaine for president, how about Kaine/Condoleezza Rice? What’s she been up to lately, anyway? I’m assuming she’s a #NeverTrumper. They would lock up the neocon vote (take that, Evan McMullin). I guess I’m joking: Powell and Rice went from national darlings to fairly toxic because of destroying the Middle East.

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    • Replies: @Nico

    Powell and Rice went from national darlings to fairly toxic because of destroying the Middle East.
     
    Given what Barack Obama did in Libya I'm fairly certain that can be glossed over.
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  • The BBC got a whole bunch of film critics from all over to submit their Top Ten lists of the 21st Century and made up a Top 100 list. Here's their overall Top Ten from the Top Ten lists, with links to what I've written about them. 10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and...
  • Geez, I thought Yi Yi was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Or am I thinking of What Time Is It There? Now I feel like I should rewatch Yi Yi … but it was really long and slow.

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  • From a 2015 interview with Quentin Tarantino, director of the Kill Whitey classic Django Unchained: From my review
  • @syonredux

    Ultimately what he’s really missing out on in life is a dollop of thick Black dick and failing to come to terms with that is making him increasingly unhinged. He should man up and take a cue from Milo.
     
    Hence, the prison-rape fantasy in The Hateful Eight, which features Samuel L Jackson forcing a freezing White man to perform fellatio on him:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0LuS_gpj4

    This is the only movie I’ve ever walked out of. Well, this and Marvin’s Room, of all things (I didn’t think it was funny).

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  • What's your opinion?
  • I don’t really care very much one way or the other about whether Europe wishing to merge itself into a federation or not. Occasionally, I fantasise about a giant federation of the Western peoples (it would have a more desireable demographic balance than the United States as of now, but not for long unless they get some sense fast). But it seems to me that it’s a bad idea in principle and probably in practice to do what the EU has been doing: slouching carelessly toward federation and an end to member state sovereignty, without having a clear agenda to do so. The most obvious problems that are caused by this carelessness/dissimulation are the antidemocratic, bureaucratic nature of the European government and, more importantly, the fact that it’s far from clear that the people in the member states want to be united in a federation.

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  • From my new Taki's Magazine column: Read the whole thing there. P.S.: Footage of pre-Kamala California Democratic Party leaders in their primes: By the way, did Jefferson Airplane/Starship ever have another go
  • I like “Crown of Creation” and “Volunteers” a lot. When I listen to “Volunteers”, I always imagine they’re shouting “counter-revolution! counter-revolution!”, although I’m sure that’s not what they intended. The Worst of Jefferson Airplane is entertaining throughout, although most of it feels more like album cuts than hits, in my opinion. “Lather” is a nostalgiac favorite because it reminds me of my father, who is from Generation Grace Slick, talking about turning 30 way back when. Your mileage may vary.

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  • Reading Buddhism and Islam on the Silk Road. It's a quick read. Not because it is not scholarly, it is scholarly. But unlike The Shape of Ancient Thought is relatively economical in its prose (to be fair, The Shape of Ancient Thought covers more ground). Also you probably benefit from reading Beckwith's Warriors of the...
  • Totally agree about the prophecies. I’ve always thought that was the least interesting part of the series. Granted, that basically comes down to taste, but GRRM is so damn good at low fantasy, I wish he’d concentrate on that. I root for Dany began she’s the legal heir and doesn’t seem particularly evil, but I find it annoying to be rooting for “destiny’s child”.

    If Dany dies childless (and assuming her brothers are dead), then I believe Stannis is the heir-general of Targaryen as well as Baratheon. Or, assuming that the monarch has the power to legitimise bastards, Dany could legitimise one of Robert’s many natural children and that would become her heir. I had been hoping that the series would end with Edric Storm taking the throne (sort of like how Hamlet brings in Fortinbras, a minor character, as king right at the end), but I’m given to understand that there is no Edric Storm in the TV series, and that seems like it would constitute a fairly major divergence.

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    All u should see is Snow.
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  • Audacious Epigone writes:
  • I don’t really get what there is to be explained about Nate Silver by Silver himself or anyone else. He’s a data-oriented pundit. There was nothing in the data that proved that Trump would win the nomination – for a little while Ben Carson was ahead, but smart money assumed he was a flash in the pan, and was right – and pundits are usually wrong about things. In other words, I’m not sure why anyone assumed that Nate Silver had the ability to predict the result.

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    Because science.
    , @res

    I don’t really get what there is to be explained about Nate Silver by Silver himself or anyone else. He’s a data-oriented pundit. There was nothing in the data that proved that Trump would win the nomination – for a little while Ben Carson was ahead, but smart money assumed he was a flash in the pan, and was right – and pundits are usually wrong about things. In other words, I’m not sure why anyone assumed that Nate Silver had the ability to predict the result.
     
    I have been bashing Nate Silver's handling of Trump because his pundit-like statements have been consistently more negative on Trump than the data he was presenting at the same time.

    The primary examples that come to mind are:
    - His pundit-like no chance statements while Trump had been leading in the polls for an extended period (in contrast to the more typical Ben Carson flash in the pan you mentioned).
    - The consistent underperformance of his polls-plus predictions relative to the polls-only predictions (i.e. the hand he chose to put on the scale underestimated Trump).
    - The negativeness of his mid-April delegate roadmap. Here is some discussion of it on unz.com: http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/demography-is-electoral-destiny-will-midwest-niceness-be-a-problem-for-trump/#comment-1387552 (in particular, compare how Indiana turned out to the predictions, the polls, and the most similar nearby states).
    - His ignoring of the Pennsylvania unbound delegates in his calculations even after many had declared they would choose the vote winner (see above roadmap).

    It has been entertaining to watch the comments on 538 stating how the data proved his conclusions in posts where Nate's analysis clearly departed from the data. Just because you are a sciency guy and give some numbers does not mean your top line conclusions are proven "because science."

    Again, I am not a 538 basher. I like their methodology (especially when they themselves choose to adhere to it) and am grateful that even while being overly negative they generally include enough data for an astute observer to draw his own conclusions. I am just upset that Silver (and by extension 538) has shown himself so subject to bias.

    In short, my criticism of Nate is not that he failed to predict the result. It is that his subjective statements have been consistently more negative on Trump than the objective data he presented at the same time. In other words, I no longer am able to trust his conclusions and his mea culpas have done little to reassure me (though I was happy to see him subject his predictions to that process).

    P.S. On another note, the RCP poll aggregator is showing Trump up on Clinton (by 0.2%) for what I think is the first time:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
    HuffPost still shows Clinton leading (by 2.7%):
    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
    Interesting to see the different conclusions given what is theoretically the same underlying data. It would be an interesting project to analyze the different aggregators conclusions and see how they compare over time (e.g. try to determine whether the differences are due to methodology or bias).
    , @Jack D
    The data favored Trump in this way - let's say that the GOP electorate was 50/50 against immigration (it was probably higher than that but say 50/50). The 50% that were in favor of immigration split their votes among the 10 or so candidates that agreed with them and the 50% that were against all favored Trump.

    Another data point was recognition - I think Trump had greater (and qualitatively deeper) recognition than any other candidate. Even Jeb! was largely unknown to the American public.

    Long term TV exposure is amazingly powerful. This morning I watched a segment on the CBS Sunday Morning show about this couple in Waco, Texas who have some sort of cable TV show on home renovation. Thru the power of this one stupid cable show, they have turned Waco into a shopping mecca and themselves into mini- magnates of home renovation. Also the other day, the man who played Wilbur, the human sidekick of Mr. Ed the talking horse died. Mr. Ed has not been on TV for 60 years but I knew instantly who this man was. Meanwhile, if Jim Gilmore (one of the supposed Republican candidates and the former governor of VA) walked up to me in the street and punched me in the nose, I wouldn't be able to pick him out of a lineup.
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  • One of the more eyebrow-raising examples of media power to control the contents of public thought space is the near disappearance of any recollections of the huge leftist Nuclear Freeze movement of the early Reagan years. "Nuclear Freeze" doesn't even have its own Wikipedia topic. Here's the New York Times' usage of the phrase "nuclear...
  • @NeonBets
    Along these same lines, it is interesting to compare Obama's pre-presidential profile on Wikipedia to some of those "obscure" presidents from the late 1880s. James Garfield is a perfect example: The guy only served as president for 6 months before getting assassinated. Hardly anyone even remembers he existed.

    Reading Garfield's Wiki entry, you'll find A LOT of information about his life prior to becoming President. And you'll find this information even though is youth (during the 1840s and 1850s) was spent in Ohio--which was essentially a rural backwater.

    Yet, there's probably 300% more info on the pre-presidential life of the obscure Garfield (who is more apt to be confused with the comic strip cat) than the Nobel Laureate who grew up in the 1980s and 1990s, wrote not one, but two autobiographies, and has served 2 terms.

    All this at a time when our media is so obsessed with minutiae that it will devote an entire weekend news cycle to a couple of Trump's former girlfriends.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

    That appears to be caused by limitations of space. I don’t understand exactly why Wikipedia tries to limit the length of individuals articles, but they do. Thus, a lot of Obama’s pre-presidential background is in a separate article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama. There’s no corresponding article on Garfield. Obviously, there’s a lot more to say about Obamas’ presidency than Garfield’s.

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    Thank you for that. Seriously, that's good to know--I thought I was going to have to being a Birther or something.
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  • Went to see Captain America: Civil War yesterday at the Alamo Drafthouse. I don't watch many movies, and I'm not into comic books, but the Marvel films series is one I watch partly for cultural literacy (years ago I got tired of references to The Dark Knight, so I watched them just to get caught...
  • @b.
    civil war was just absurd. i couldnt even brush it of with ''it's just a movie''. wonder woman is at least a super human (meta, advanced or whatever) but 100 pound scarlet normal human throwing around 200 pound dudes like pillows doesn't make sense in any universe.
    but more importantly, team iron man had vision on their side, by their own rules a nigh godlike omniscient beeing capable of blowing up the whole planet if he desired, yet he somehow forgets about his powers throughout the whole movie, when in fact it's a no contest. when you go see the movie notice how they managed to hide him in the big airport scene-he is kinda there but not really. his inactivity would make much more sense if declared neutrality and let it up to the heroes right away.

    I know action filmmakers and apparently action film audiences just can’t get enough of slight yet ass-kicking babes. I wish they would at least hire consultants who know about self-defense that is designed to be used by women. Should be lots of small joint locks, miscellaneous fighting dirty, using opponent’s weight & momentum against him, etc. etc., as opposed to brawler punches to the jaw. Knives would make sense: a small person with a knife has the advantage over a big person who left their knife at home. But I guess you can’t do blood like that in a Marvel Comics movie. Energy bolts, sure, but kids would find it upsetting if the Black Widow goes around Jack-the-Ripper-ing everybody.

    I don’t know anything about this stuff, but it’s just the basicest common sense & the broadest equivalent of realism.

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  • From the Daily Beast: We can tell Gen. Mattis is a good choice for President because he was on the Board of Directors of Elizabeth Holmes's Theranos blood-testing start-up. From Fortune: Theranos' board: Plenty of political connections, little relevant expertise by Jennifer Reingold @jennrein OCTOBER 15, 2015, 12:49 PM EDT Theranos’ board of directors was...
  • By the way, “press into service … again” is an oafish metaphor to use when talking about a general or any modery miltary man. It’s hardly as if he had been pressed into service the first time.

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  • Interesting piece in Nautilus, Why Revolutionaries Love Spicy Food: How the chili pepper got to China. As you may know there isn't any specific thing which is "Chinese food", anymore there is "Indian food", or "European food."* The article focuses on the emergence of Sichuan cuisine, which unlike Cantonese food, took to the arrival of...
  • It is generally asserted that the 17th century population replacement is the reason why Sichuan people speak Northern (or “Mandarin”) dialects, i.e. relatively close to the speech of Beijing and environs. I’ve often wondered if there are detectable substrates or relicts of pre-17th century Sichuan dialects in the region.

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  • The above model of the settlement of the Americas is from a new paper which utilized ancient mtDNA, Ancient mitochondrial DNA provides high-resolution time scale of the peopling of the Americas (open access): The exact timing, route, and process of the initial peopling of the Americas remains uncertain despite much research. Archaeological evidence indicates the...
  • By the way, Edward Vajda had a new paper on Dene-Yeniseic recently: https://www.academia.edu/20554985/Dene-Yeniseic_in_past_and_future_perspective

    I haven’t read the whole thing yet, but I’d call attention to these snippets:

    “Nor does a Dene-Yeniseic language connection concur with what has so far been discovered by population geneticists. Research on human DNA in North Asian and New World populations have so far yielded no evidence that Yeniseic groups and modern Na-Dene speakers share a specially close genetic affinity when compared to other peoples of these regions.”

    “The evidence presented by Ben Potter (this volume) on the temporal succession of prehistoric tool assemblages in Siberia and Alaska, however, reveals no clear evidence for new migrations into Alaska between 10,000 and 4,500 years ago.”

    “Also, placing the oldest accepted language families even farther back in time than commonly assumed would only further vex the most perplexing conundrum of all: how to reconcile the documented linguistic diversity of the Americas with a presumed first entry date younger than 15,000 years.”

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  • The Andamanese are unique in the world in that they are a South Asian people who are known to have maintained a hunter-gatherer lifestyle down to the present day uninterrupted. Literally every other South Asian population has evidence of mixture with West Eurasian groups in the last 10,000 years, with the typical South Asian being...
  • @thinkingabout it
    It really is a modern conceit to go around trying to change other people's culture.

    How would Americans like it if Salvadorans came to New York and arrested women who had late term abortions? Or if Brahmins came to Texas to arrest beef eaters?

    The Indian governments policy is similar to the Brazilian policy towards its own uncontacted people. Essentially they're considered like endangered animals. You don't arrest them anymore than you arrest a lion for killing lion cubs.

    What I would argue for is not so much universal ethics as that people should adapt themselves to be able to get along with their neighbors. The Jarawa are stuck with the Indians whether they like it or not … they are stuck with limited Indian involvement, but not none. We Americans are not subject to Salvadoran law or brahmin law. Perhaps it will come to pass in the future that we are, but that would be a very different political world than the one in which we live now.

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  • Since the early 1990s I've been writing op-eds backing the Good Government reform idea that Supreme Court nominees shouldn't get lifetime appointments, but instead a single 18-year term. Since there are 9 Justices, that would mean a nomination fight would come up every two years. Win four years in the White House, you get to...
  • Why not just apply the 18 year term to all new appointees and keep the life term for sitting justices? There would be a mixed membership until all the old justices with life terms died off. Not a big deal.

    P.S. Back when I was a teenager, I visited the capitol with my father and we happened to exchange hellos with Paul Simon, who was our Senator, in the hall near his office. That was the high tide of my political influence.

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  • When I was younger I used to follow politics somewhat closely. Every year I would read The Almanac of American Politics. With sites like Politico and Wikipedia there's really no point. Additionally, I gave up my interest in closely following politics at around the same time (or a little later) I stopped closely following professional...
  • @Sean
    It is difficult to see how Obama and others of similar recent immigrant origins could be eligible, and they make up a substantial proportion of black academics. Ta-Nehisi Coates and other successful blacks (ie the blacks who write about what the black community opinion is about reparations) would lose relatively speaking and object to low class blacks cashing in high flying blacks' entitlement to AA sinecures . Businesses that have tried to pay everyone the same have run into problems. To work, reparations would have to be regressive (ie give the rich blacks more than the poor ones).

    I have the vague impression that TNC’s idea of reparations is that it would mostly be programs, maybe grants to organisations, not cash to individuals. Would the programs and organisations in question also happen to create desireable jobs for people like TNC? Who can say!

    Of course, Coates’ giant article on reparations doesn’t give any specifics about what it would look like, so I’m going on impressions here.

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  • Be honest: pygmies don't sound as though they actually exist. Homer Simpson could have added them to his observation, "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and Eskimos." But there are quite a few of them. From the New York Times: There are also populations around the Indian Ocean and southwestern Pacific that are pygmy...
  • I’ve often wondered if there are any, just a handful, of Pygmy-Americans, or, for that matter, Negrito-Americans or Bushman-Americans or even Australian Aborigine-Americans.

    The Australian Aborigines are, of course, in a different situation, since they live in a rich country, so they are more likely to have access to resources with which to move to the United States. But, at the same time, they already live in a rich country, so they have much less reason to want to move.

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    Australian Aborigine-Americans

    I recall an old Australian tennis star lives in San Diego, but I think that was Rod Laver rather than Evonne Goolagong.

    , @donut
    James Baldwin ?
    , @ogunsiron
    I'm pretty sure that I have crossed path with at least one australian aborigene woman in the past year. She could have been from India, but she did look extremely Abo to me. It's a very uncommon look. She seemed like a pretty ordinary person doing her thing.

    I'd think that among the black africans captured on the west-african coast, some were of partially pygmy ancestry, but not of pygmy ethnic identity. I have a hard time imagining slavers bothering to razzia pygmy populations. I'm not even sure if the pygmies have a concept of tribal identity. They're said to speak the language of whatever black neighbours they engage in trade with (or are enslaved by).
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  • Several years ago I read a book, The Origins of the Irish, by the famed archaeologist J. P. Mallory. Unfortunately, I remember very little of this work, and recall thinking that it was published just a bit too early, as archaeogenetics was clearly going to revolutionize our understanding of the prehistory of Northern Europe, though...
  • @Gav
    Wasn't it the Picts who were said to have come from Scythia?

    People do say that about the Picts. Bede gives that account of Pictish origins, but it is “supposed to be confusing Scythia and Scandia, the Latin form of the Old English name for the southern part of the Scandinavian peninsula”.

    https://www.academia.edu/14461786/The_Pictish_Language_-_A_Historiography

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  • Commenter Wilkey writes: Oddly enough, this Walmart security guard Enrique Marquez who bought the guns is a convert to Islam. Is that a thing? Are Latinos converting to Islam in any numbers? In general, I didn't expect this San Bernardino atrocity to turn out to be another Muslim massacre because Southern California doesn't have particularly...
  • Entirely possible that Enrique converted to Islam for miscellaneous reasons, but note that he was married to a Russian woman whose brother-in-law was Muslim. As you implied, there are lots of Russian Muslims. So perhaps its simply that he wanted to marry her and she insisted that he convert first.

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  • Over Thanksgiving I tried Marie Sharp's Habanero Pepper Sauce. It is apparently from Belize. Highly recommended. It's a genuine habanero sauce, in that it actually is spicy. The additives don't overwhelm the habanero flavor and impact. I would say it is very mildly on the sweet rather than vinegar side, but the other flavors don't...
  • @CupOfCanada
    I think the Irish would have preferred to keep Gaelic if they could though.

    In a liberal society, I'd think bilingual education would offer a pretty reasonable compromise here. Bilingualism has cognitive benefits anyways, so why not preserve the local language and build an inclusive state at the same time? Sweden manages to have a high level of competence at the lingua franca of Europe and the West (English) without threatening its own language or culture.

    China does not seem to be a place that values diversity though, sadly.

    Well, revealed preference says the Irish preferred English. But I realise I’m being pedantic here. It’s like someone with a crappy job who would prefer not to have a crappy job: what they really want is a different set of options and trade-offs. So, yes, I agree that in hindsight the Irish would prefer not to have lost Gaelic and in foresight the Tibetans don’t want to lose Tibetan. But my point was just that it would have taken more than that to stop Irish nationalism.

    P.S. China values diversity a ton … on paper. Also civil liberties and even voting … on paper. But China’s #1 favorite thing on paper is gender equality.

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    First off we call our language "Irish" when speaking English and not Gaelic, a word which if anything has a pejorative tone when used in Ireland (eg. it's usually used by Anglophone linguistic bigots). It was after all a scottish coinage in 18th century so as to get away from fact that Scottish Gáidhlig was called "Erse" (Eg. Irish) in Scots, which was regarded as derogatory.

    If you consult English state papers from the likes of the Dublin Castle administration you will find the language was always termed "Irish" from right back to the 14th century.

    Aside from that Irish hasn't disappeared, though you probably looking at a speech community (Daily and weekly speakers outside education) of about 3% of population (with considerably higher level of passive knowledge among general population)

    If anything the near terminal decline of the language in the 19th century (brought upon by affect of both by Angliscation been driven by nouveau riche Catholic middle classes and the devastating effect of the famine), was one of major driving forces towards revival of militant Nationalism/Separatism in the late 19th century. (as oppose to "Home Rule" within framework of the Union).

    The "Castle Catholics" of the IPP (Irish Parlimentary party) were very happy to maintain the country within the framework of the British Empire as long as they could have their own assembly (which would have had less power than current Welsh assmebly) in Dublin, one only has to look at Redmond encouraging men to sign up for the British Army in 1914.
    , @AG
    China values diversity a ton … on paper.

    It is true and Chinese communist government even encouraging it (due to their typical liberal ideological belief like its western equivalents). There are officially 56 ethnic groups, a lot of them did not have their own written languages. But Chinese government even creates new written words for them, example Zhuang written form.

    Zhuang people now have their own written words in form of Roman alphaet like that of vietnamese. For the first time, their schools no longer taught in traditional Chinese as way of education like before. As largest ethnic minority group with their autonomic region, Zhuang people actually achieve incredible literacy rate due to the easy learning of alphabet like modern Vietnamese writting. But high literacy rate never can be translated direactly into economical success like vietnam. It is only partial factor.

    However, like Razib point about Tibetan situation, the elite Zhuang people end up in top colllege are all bilingual with very proficient Han education. If you want to go to top College, you have to study Han Chinese. To broaden their chances for economical success, elite rather want to go to top Han colleges instead of their own ethnic college. After they went to top collleges, they just dont bother teaching offsprings their own ethnic language and writting. Basically their elites are sinicized like ancient Chinese history. My ethnic Korean friends from Manchuria did similar thing. They prefer Han chinese college over their own ethnic college. To some degree, even ethnic Russian did similar thing. The result is brain drain from all ethnic groups into Han population. The vicious cycles in long Chinese history might partially expain Han ethnic g factor. Admittingly Han text is one of hardest writting systemt which serve as a barrier for low g people chance for complete sinicization. The result is that all ethnic elites even looking down on its own people.

    During Korean war, the letters among Korean officers were all in Han Chinese writting. The letters to lower rank or letter among soldiers were all in Korean writting. Elites did for the very reason of differenciating themselve from low end of society. If you mastered something that regular people could not achieve, you want to show it off.

    All these point to that certain culturally magnetic pulling power is incredibly strong despite of communist promoting diversity in line of their liberal ideology. People are practical because they do not want waste their chance to make more wealth or money.
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  • re: Tibet, I’ve often had the vague sense that the spread of large-scale lingua francas could reduce pressure on some local languages. If educated people everywhere could speak, say, Esperanto (in the Esperantist pipe dream) or English (more plausibly) then there would be less practical incentive for Tibetans to learn Chinese. Tibetans would be bilingual either way, but the social psychology of speaking the global-lingua-franca-that-comes-from-far-away might be different than speaking the national language that is the only language of many of your fellow citizens, i.e. perhaps the former would be less likely to abandon the old language in favor of monolingualism.

    I tend to think of Tibet in terms of Ireland. The Irish didn’t stop being Irish nationalists when they switched to speaking English rather than Gaelic. They didn’t even have the advantage of an Ireland-focused religion. It’s true that their Catholicism put them at odds with the Anglicans, but it’s not so distinctive: lots of Catholics in England.

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    I think the Irish would have preferred to keep Gaelic if they could though.

    In a liberal society, I'd think bilingual education would offer a pretty reasonable compromise here. Bilingualism has cognitive benefits anyways, so why not preserve the local language and build an inclusive state at the same time? Sweden manages to have a high level of competence at the lingua franca of Europe and the West (English) without threatening its own language or culture.

    China does not seem to be a place that values diversity though, sadly.
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  • (My reader poll results will have to wait, but rest assured, they're coming.) Yet another terrorist attack in Paris – this year: I wish I could say I was even remotely surprised – perhaps only at the precise time, and that's all. For this is just another example of what I and so many others...
  • @guest
    "acts of war that don't have a strategic military objective"

    Of course terrorism has a strategic object: to terrorize. In fact, terrorism is more purely strategic than most other acts of war, because there's almost no short or medium term purpose to them.

    The way purportedly responsible states try to wriggle out of being called terrorists is by, firstly, falsely equating terrorism with irregular warfare. This is one reason you say terrorism is pacticed by the weak instead of the strong. Terrorism is practiced by both, I assure you. It's just that often the weak only practice terrorism, because they can't afford "conventional" warfare. Hence, secondly, big armies can claim they'd fight fair if only. If only the weak would stand out in an open field so they can blow them up.

    Terrorize and then what? When, for example, Timothy McVeigh blows up a federal building, it doesn’t terrify the populace so that his troops can spring into action somewhere and do something. It just terrifies people and accomplishes nothing else. And so people call him a terrorist. If there’s no plan to do something militarily to follow up then I don’t see how it can be described as a military objective.

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  • @Kratoklastes
    Depends critically on your definition of 'terrrrrist' and 'terrrrist act'.

    If you consider members of the political class to be part of each race, and the victims of objectively terrrrrist acts that they perpetrate to be victims of terrrrism, the whites win by a margin of millions.

    A couple of examples - things that the US and NATO do as a matter of course in the first few dozen bombing sorties and missile launches.

    ① Bombing civilian water and sewage treatment plants when a country is under embargo (preventing substitutes for water treatment - like chlorine - from being imported). It has the unstated, but obviously deliberate and foreseeable, aim of increasing the rate of water-borne diseases in infants and the elderly.

    ② Bombing of electricity generation plants and electricity distribution infrastructure (network choke-points).

    ③ Area bombing generally. And let's be clear: a 2000lb bomb in an urban landscape is not 'precision' bombing; everyone within 300ft will die, mostly from lung liquefaction as a result of the pressure wave. Draw a line 100 yards from where you're sitting and count the number of people who aren't you (assuming you're the target).

    ① and ② have the unstated, but foreseeable (and ergo deliberate), objective of causing an increase in water-borne disease among infants and the elderly: that's a very specific set of targets; it's deliberate; it's meant to cause horror in the minds of the political class in the target country. babies dying of preventable illness, as a direct, predictable and deliberate consequence of SOP.

    That is the epitome of attempting to "further a political aim by violent means".

    I note that the CIA wants to sticky-tape on a fig-leaf by pretending that if the violence is 'authorised' or 'official' it's not terrrrrrism... but if ISIL is a 'state' and it 'authorises' its actions, how are they terrrrrrism?

    Par contre: if authorisation can not be sui generis, and the US genocide in Iraq was not 'authorised' by the UNSC (the US SecGen declared it was illegal, too), how is that not terrrrism?

    I think when most people talk about terrorism, what they mean are acts of war that don’t have a strategic military objective. They don’t accomplish any goals other than harming a soft target. For example, the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks were not part of a serious plan to seize control of New York, and the recent Paris attacks are not part of a serious plan to seize control of Paris.

    My point is not to defend the morality of other acts of war, such as bombing civilian water and sewage treatment plants as part of an invasion. Perhaps these acts are much worse than terrorism.

    This definition of terrorism implies that it will normally be practiced by the weak rather than the strong. If they were stronger, they’d have a better plan. Therefore, it requires a different kind of response from the rest of society than violence committed by, say, Obama or Putin would, and so it’s usually a whole different conversation.

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    "acts of war that don't have a strategic military objective"

    Of course terrorism has a strategic object: to terrorize. In fact, terrorism is more purely strategic than most other acts of war, because there's almost no short or medium term purpose to them.

    The way purportedly responsible states try to wriggle out of being called terrorists is by, firstly, falsely equating terrorism with irregular warfare. This is one reason you say terrorism is pacticed by the weak instead of the strong. Terrorism is practiced by both, I assure you. It's just that often the weak only practice terrorism, because they can't afford "conventional" warfare. Hence, secondly, big armies can claim they'd fight fair if only. If only the weak would stand out in an open field so they can blow them up.
    , @Kratoklastes

    They don’t accomplish any goals other than harming a soft target
     
    So not true. And not true at any level (i.e., any scale of action; any timeline; any line of reasoning except some cartoon version).

    First, 'big ticket' items...

    Let's stipulate, arguendo, that the accepted narrative of 911 is correct: 19 Saudis hijack 4 planes, evade the US' trillion-dollar air defences for an implausibly long time, and crash into some iconic buildings - one of which is among the most heavily-protected real estate on Earth.

    The goal accomplished is staggering: it shows that a Death Machine that self-refers as the mightiest military power since the Roman Empire, can be struck within its own borders by a ragtag group of individuals. It shows that billions of dollars' worth of damage can be imposed at a cost of a few hundred grand. (Leave aside that the billions ballooned into trillions as the career parasites of the Thanatocracy licked their lips at the prospect of a new Long War, with all the racketeering that entails - and that's ignoring further trillions of damage to the national balance sheet).

    Second - smallers scale...

    Say, a suicide bomber who drives a truck laden with explosives into the barracks of a foreign military - the effect is less staggering: that's just ordnance delivery when you don't have an air force.

    And lastly, direct, interpersonal violence...

    Say, a local who stabs a foreign invader (or the 'anchor baby' of a foreign invader) in Occupied Palestine. The Palestinians rightly consider all of Palestine to be occupied - not just the bits outside the 1967 or 1948 borders.

    The lowest-scale stuff - direct interpersonal violence - is just the Resistance at work: as anybody familiar with the French Resistance during Nazi Occupation will attest, civilian camp-followers were seen as valid targets. Resistance movements have to make camp-followers aware (be they imported, or local collaborators) that there are costs involved with being part of the occupation machinery - the better to make them consider buggering off back to Eastern Europe (or Brooklyn).
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  • The Middle East is complex. I tried to get at that with my post The Islamic State Is Right About Some Things. Of late I have noticed the peculiar tendency toward soft-tinted reportage of the PKK-affiliated YPG and the nature of life in Rojava. Typical of what you see in the American media is this...
  • @Robert Ford
    I was even more confused when I asked my coworker, who fled IS from Baghdad, what he thought of our actions. He said: 1) he's glad we got rid of saddam 2) wishes we hadn't left 3) wishes we'd *go back* 4) said partitioning Iraq ethnically would never work because of jealousy regarding oil revenue.
    That was the exact opposite of everything I thought I'd "learned" from naively supporting the initial invasion. Added to that was his general malaise about IS and what could stop them. Whatever!
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/isis-in-afghanistan/
    The upcoming Frontline is about IS in Afghanistan

    You have to figure there’s a significant minority in Iraq who wish it could become the 51st state … U.S. military stays forever and keeps the peace. Of course, that’s a loser’s deal for the U.S. and most Iraqis don’t want it.

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  • At ASHG this year a friend and I were talking, and we noted in passing how much R. A. Fisher anticipated in The Genetical Theory of Natural Selection. In some ways it resembles Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species. But while The Origin is an illustrious book, widely read, and even more widely owned, The...
  • I’ve become interested in the Igbo people after noticing some of the recent excitement about them in the HBDosphere (fret not, my fellow commenters, I don’t believe everything I read!). Does anyone have a recommendation for a book about the Biafran war of independence?

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    I read The Fate of Africa by Meredith and Biafra: The Nigerian Civil War 1967-1970 by Baxter after reading Chisala's posts. Sadly, I can't recommend either of them. Baxter's book was very short and not illuminating. Meredith's book dedicates two chapters to how terrible apartheid was, and then glosses over the Biafran war in three pages without mentioning all the people who starved to death. Disgustingly, he even wrote: "The aftermath of the war was notable for its compassion and mercy...".

    I hate recommending Wikipedia, but the article and external links there are the best I could find.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

    In a similar vein, does anyone know a good book about Eritrea and its people?
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  • Here's the second half of my podcast talking with Kevin Grace of 2Kevins Grace and Steel. They've change their name based on my suggestion, which is always a bad move based on my 40 year track record as the world's least cool guy.
  • By the way, I appreciated Sailer’s brief pro-Tibet comments in this conversation. Really nothing more than that is required to understand the essence of the situation. I don’t know why the liberals who conspicuously support Tibet don’t draw the fairly obvious conclusion that good fences make good neighbors. On the other hand, I can’t say I’m very surprised any more when people fail at putting 2 and 2 together.

    The Tibet issue continues to hang around because, in fact, the Chinese have a piss poor job of repopulating it with Han. Really, Xinjiang is the only place where Chinese Communists have carried out a successful program of population movement. (Inner Mongolia and Manchuria had already been repopulated in the late imperial period.) Even in Xinjiang, though, note that northern Xinjiang has been ethnically heterogenous for a long time, while southern Xinjiang is still predominantly Turks. As for Tibet, if one can believe the government statistics, not only does the Tibet Autonomous Region still have a Tibetan majority, so do vast swaths of land in the provinces east of there. The basic problem is that Chinese people just don’t want to live there; so the government would have to try really hard to change the population and they really haven’t made a concerted effort. Not only does the altitude cause real health problems, the Chinese also seem to exaggerate those problems to be even worse than they are. To boot, there’s not a lot of economic activity happening in these places. For these reasons, I think the government population stats are plausible as far as the countryside goes. Those numbers presumably reflect the legal residents of the counties in question, and there’s not a lot of reason anybody would go to the trouble of living there illegally. In Lhasa, there are obviously large numbers of illegal Han residents; during the last ten years or so, the same has probably started to be true of other urban centers such as Shigatse and Gyantse. This makes sense because subsidies from Beijing are Tibet’s main economy at this point, so you’d expect the impact to mostly be felt in the capital and to a lesser extent in other cities. Basically not at all outside of the autonomous region, where the Tibetan areas are a basically just a bunch of hillbilly backwoods villages that nobody cares about at all.

    By the way, nobody seems to notice that there already is an independent Tibetan country, which is Bhutan. Of course, this is quite a bit like, if Germany were suddenly wiped off the map, and I said, “well, at least there’s still a German country, i.e. Austria”. For historically contingent reasons, the locals prefer to emphasise their distinctiveness, but it’s hard to deny that basically Austria is culturally German and Bhutan is culturally Tibetan. The Bhutanese language, Dzongkha, is quite close to Lhasa Tibetan. Of course, I’m referring to the Ngalop élite of Bhutan; the majority of the population, I believe, are assorted hill tribes, i.e. basically just a bunch of hillbilly backwoods villages that nobody cares about at all.

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  • Since it’s two-cents time, I would’ve liked the name “Steele and Grace from Under the Rubble”. It reminds of “Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos”. It’s better if Steele’s name goes first since he’s the Dick Smothers of the pair. “2Kevins; with Grace and Steele” sounds off because it makes it sound like there are four people involved.

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  • @Anon
    No quiet center?

    All chaos?

    No inner party that knows what is going on, as in Orwell's 1984?

    Really?

    Then how come Israel has all these fences and how come NYT doesn't say Israel should use Golan Heights as refugee center?

    The rulers of globalism knows what is happening and they know what they are doing.

    Iraq War and disintegration of the Middle East have been planned for a long time by those in the center of both parties.

    And globalists have been working for a long time to 'diversify' Europe and to inculcate Europeans that they 'will not survive' unless they adopt waves of non-Europeans as the 'new Europeans'?

    As for Tibet, it's no longer an issue. Tibetans reminded people of Palestinians and the dangers of massive immigration.

    When was the last time anyone heard anything about Tibet?

    I hear about Tibet all the time, but that’s because I go out of my way to follow the Tibet news. I don’t know why there are no good Tibet blogs. The last time everybody heard about it was … probably 2008 when they did some riots. Those are good for a headline or two. Maybe somebody noticed when the exiles had democratic elections for their leader in 2011.

    Tibet hasn’t been much of an issue since about 1959 when force settled the issue apparently for good. I don’t think it’s become any less of an issue lately than it was maybe 20 years ago. As a backburner issue, it continues to hang around like a basketball team that’s down by a lot the whole game but not quite enough to give up.

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  • I've obviously been a bit remiss with the blogging. That will change in the near future. First, ASHG was the bomb. I also hit D.C., New York, and Cambridge, in rapid succession. Lots of people to meet and catch up with. But a week away meant that other responsibilities built up and I'm just trying...
  • Does anyone have suggestions for a biography of Sigmund Freud? I haven’t looked at any yet, but I have to imagine there are some pretty bad ones out there, and I’d like to avoid them.

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    Frank Sulloway
    Freud, Biologist of the Mind received the Pfizer Award of the History of Science Society for the best book published in the field in 1979.
    IMHO Freud was a peerless clinician and a very human theorist. He was a man of his time and culture.
    A slogan popular with Clinical Psychology Dissertation Candidates is "Research is Me-Search" True in spades for Freud.
    To paraphrase the under-appreciated R.D. Laing : Freud used his theory as a Medusa's Head to explore the Unconscious. We who follow him no longer need to use his theory in this way.
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  • Kevin Michael Grace and Kevin Steel have a podcast program at their 2Kevins.com website. This week, I'm their first guest, with a 1 hour and 16 minute conversation between Grace and myself. I'll be back at 2Kevins.com to finish up next week. Here's the 2004 article, "Baby Gap," that I mention in the early part...
  • Did Freud really do well for money? I don’t know a lot of the details of his life, and it’s hard to gauge this sort of thing in hindsight (a lot of times, what seems like a struggle at the time can appear more or less a breeze in hindsight). I know Freud envied Jung his wealth (who wouldn’t?)

    Now that I’m thinking about it, any suggestions for biography of Freud?

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  • The big thing in the near future is that I'll be at ASHG 2015. More precisely Wednesday through Friday. I'm planning on checking on the Friday evening session of Lazaridis et al. where they review their findings in regards to the ancient Anatolian genomes. Aside from that the focus is on posters (methods in particular)...
  • I wonder what gnxp readers would make of this article: http://jayarava.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-failure-to-communicate-evolution.html

    Attwood begins by stipulating evolution, then proceeds to criticise specific theories of the mechanism of evolution. He suggests that the shortcomings of evolutionary theory as presented in high school textbooks, etc. is part of the reason for the freakishly large number of people who don’t believe in evolution at all.

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  • A while back I purchased In God's Path: The Arab Conquests and the Creation of an Islamic Empire on Tom Holland's recommendation, as this work purports to be based on a spare, but historically contemporaneous, set of sources rooted in the non-Muslim societies which Islam ultimately superseded across the Middle East. The book was a...
  • @Riordan
    Razib,

    I'm not very conversant on the literature of the early conquests, but since you read most of the requisite works, what is your take on why those Muslim Arabs were so successful in conquering such a large swath of territories in such a short amount of time? Were they under the leadership of military geniuses on the grade of Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan? Or were the entire Southwest Asian region that effed up and weakened to begin with? Or did Islam (or whatever vague neo-monotheism they were under) serve as an evolutionary advantageous organizational adaptation?

    Tom Holland emphasises the similarities between the Arab conquest of the south/eastern Mediterrenean part of the Roman empire with the Frankish conquest of Gaul. There were tribal peoples who had been living near the Romans and associating with them for generations. When a moment of weakness presented itself, they swapped their subordinate posture to a dominant one.

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    right. i think the key is that *since* the arabs developed a religious identity which became a universal-civilizational one, the urge is to look back at what happened between 630-650 and ask what made it so special. but the conquest itself wasn't that special. the persians a generation before had basically reconstituted the old achaemenid empire and ruled areas like egypt for much of a generation. rather, it was the persistence and eventual evolution of a new identity over the centuries. the total roll-over of the persians probably gave the umayyads the resources to hold onto the byzantine lands that they conquered.
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  • The first 2016 general election poll of September is also the first poll to show Trump beating Hillary. From May through July, Hillary was up by anywhere from 12 to 24 points over Trump. He's now up by five points, continuing a trend in Trump's direction in August: Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump...
  • I like Trump as much as the next guy, but I’m not sure I can vote for somebody who says his favorite foreign policy thinker is John Bolton. John Bolton … are you kidding me? Talk about “personnel is policy”!

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    I just looked it up. It's true.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/donald-trump-john-bolton-iraq-war

    In that Meet the Press interview, host Chuck Todd asked Trump to identify his "go-to" experts for national security matters. Trump said he "probably" had two or three. Todd pressed the tycoon for names, and the first one Trump mentioned was John Bolton, the George W. Bush administration's ambassador to the United Nations. "He's, you know, a tough cookie, knows what he's talking about," Trump said. (He also named retired Col. Jack Jacobs, an MSNBC military analyst.)

    He's still better than Jeb or Hillary. Just not on foreign policy.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "I like Trump as much as the next guy, but I’m not sure I can vote for somebody who says his favorite foreign policy thinker is John Bolton. John Bolton … are you kidding me? Talk about “personnel is policy”!"

    Yes, when it comes to foreign policy, Trump hasn't offered anything different than the establishment concensus - overseas empire and perpetual war.

    , @Anonymous
    I saw the interview. I think he just said Bolton because that's just who came to mind and he was winging it. He also mentioned that he gets his foreign policy knowledge from "watching the shows". I don't think he had carefully thought out and crafted foreign policy answers and just winged it.

    I don't think Trump is very ideological but is primarily personality driven. Bolton is very aggressive and argumentative on TV, much more than your ordinary pundit, and that's probably why he made a positive impression on Trump, rather than anything ideological.
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  • There's an amusing unmentioned irony about Evan Osnos's extremely long article in The New Yorker attempting to tie Donald Trump to white identity thinkers like Jared Taylor: I hope you are as shocked, shocked
  • I heard the Osnos-on-white-nationalist-Trumpism interview with Terry Gross. The thing about it was that they said almost nothing in so many words that I thought was objectionable. Granted, there were probably one or two times when they said something like “motivated by fear” where a neutral party would have said “concerned”. It’s not so much that I think Osnos and Gross were trying to be even-handed, but I can only imagine that, in their minds, simply saying “white nationalist” or “nativist” is a smear itself, so they didn’t feel the need to put much more work into the smear.

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  • Beauty matters a lot in our world. The entertainment and fashion industries are based on beauty. Obviously some aspect of beauty is socially constructed and contextual. Beauty standards can change. There was a time when many aspects of European physical appearance, from light hair and eyes, down to the lack of an epicanthic fold, were...
  • @Walter Sobchak
    I am not at all sure about this one. In most pre modern societies mating was arranged by families without much input from the younger generation. Factors like land ownership, bride price, dowry, and reciprocal obligations between families, clans, and tribes far outweighed personal attraction. Even royalty were contrained by raison d'etat. Only in their choice of mistresses, could kings go for good looks.

    I wonder what proportion of the ancestry of modern people is from kings and their mistresses. Given downward social mobility, I imagine it’s more than one would think intuitively. I also wonder if the average king had more children by mistresses or by his legal wife.

    In any event, what you’re describing might be mesotypal, by which I mean that it is not a feature of “pre-modern socities” broadly but of post-agricultural, pre-modern societies. Certainly, land ownership and kings with or without mistresses are mesotypal; not sure about bride price and dowry; and, while there have certainly always been reciprocal obligations between families, etc. I don’t know how that interacted with good looks, etc. to determine mate choice in pre-ag times.

    It would be fascinating to know more about how evolution during the agricultural period changed our instinctual urges about who makes a good mate.

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    "I wonder what proportion of the ancestry of modern people is from kings and their mistresses."

    The null hypothesis would be 1/n. Kings and their consorts were better feed than the masses, but they were political targets during dynastic wars and imperial invasions. Losing often meant being wiped out. Most dynasties came to violent ends.

    "I also wonder if the average king had more children by mistresses or by his legal wife."

    Kings were under systematic political pressure to make sure that children of questionable legitimacy, especially males, did not get into circulation. In the 17th Century, a couple of Charles II bastards were involved in plots. Charles had not fathered a legitimate male heir. Eventually, his daughters Mary and Anne, ruled, but only after their Uncle James II had been deposed.

    An interesting contrast is the way the Ottomans handled the problem. Being Islamic, the Sultan could have multiple wives and concubines. The Ottoman solution to the problem of too many heirs was that the newly minted sultan killed his brothers (whole and half). After the 16th Century they just imprisoned them in the "Cage".

    "there have certainly always been reciprocal obligations between families, etc. I don’t know how that interacted with good looks, etc. to determine mate choice in pre-ag times."

    Hunter gatherers necessarily lived in small bands. Usually the bands were part of larger groupings of Tribes and Clans. Mating involved elaborate rituals driven by membership in families, clans, tribes, and totem groups. Choice of mates was severely limited by these structures which form a large portion of anthropological literature from before the 1970s.

    Free personal choice of mates is a development of the Industrial revolution. Victorian novels treat the tension between the old and new ideas about mate selection as a driving force in their plots. I highly recommend Trollope's Palliser novels as an example.
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  • Update: On Twitter it came to my attention that some think that this post is about growth Actually, my point is that the Communist period, and Mao's period of domination, with the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, probably are huge decrements to utility over the 20th century which the Chinese are now just...
  • @CaoMengDe

    Andrew G. Walder emphasises that the Communist Party triumphed in the Chinese because of its high level of discipline and order:
     
    Pretty much.

    I am watching the YPG fighting ISIS in the Syrian Civil War. They are probably the closest thing to the Chinese Communist Army during the Japanese Invasion and Chinese Civil War.

    Not really surprising since YPG is basically a branch of PKK. It looks like PKK founder Ocalan really took Mao's People's War to heart.

    Even Ocalan's new "Democratic Confederalism" looks suspiciously like Mao's "New Democracy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democracy

    Mao's "New Democratic Revolution" is basically his way of rallying broad based support while building Communist bases in Japanese Occupied Areas. Class struggles were cast aside in favor of rallying different segment of population including landlords and local gentry in the United Front to fight the Japanese Occupiers.

    I am not saying that once PKK grabs power they will also discard their "Democratic Autonomy" concept just like how Chinese Communist moved straight from "New Democracy" to class struggle and re-making the society.

    But so far, YPG looks like they are doing a good job and getting a lot of support.

    YPG's fight against ISIS is probably the closest thing today to a Good vs Evil fight right now.

    Well, I agree with your assertion that YPG or Peshmerga vs. ISIS is the closest thing to an armed struggle between good and evil in the world today. Not actual good vs. evil, this being the real world, but the closest thing on offer. I think the analogy to the Chinese Communist Party is a bit tenuous, since neither YPG nor Peshmerga is leading an active Kurdish national unification movement at the moment, and that doesn’t appear to be on the horizon.

    I tend to think of the CCP unification of China as analogous to the Taliban unification of Afghanistan. A group of idealistic but extremely violent people with very destructive ideas … on paper you would not think they were promising as a force for national improvement. But, given that they were up against a patchwork of feckless weirdos who had less destructive ideas but no shortage of destructive practices, the Taliban were able to present a better alternative just by keeping order and not committing a bunch of petty crimes.

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    YPG and CCP parallel are more similar than you seem to imply.

    First of all YPG is basically PKK Syrian branch. PKK send fighter from all over Kurdistan into Syria Rojava region. There are Kurds from Turkey, Iran and Iraq all fighting under the YPG banner in Rojava.

    In Wall Street Journal article on YPG, "America’s Marxist Allies Against ISIS", the 24 year old Iranian Kurdish woman Zind Ruken, says explicitly:


    “It’s all PKK but different branches,” Ms. Ruken said, clad in fatigues in her encampment atop Sinjar Mountain this spring as a battle with Islamic State fighters raged less than a mile away at the mountain’s base. “Sometimes I’m a PKK, sometimes I’m a PJAK, sometimes I’m a YPG. It doesn’t really matter. They are all members of the PKK.”
     
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-marxist-allies-against-isis-1437747949

    If you watch any interviews with YPG fighers, they almost all invariably say that they are fighting for a free Kurdistan, not just Syrian Kurdistan, for Kurds there is only North Kurdistan (Turkey Kurdistan), South Kurdistan (Iraqi Kurdistan), East Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan) and West Kurdistan( Syrian Kurdistan).

    So yes, YPG is definitely fighting a National Liberation Movement, that of Kurdistan.

    And then there is ideology, PKK is Communist. In fact PKK insurgency from the very beginning was modeled after Mao's People's War.

    PKK and Chinese Communist, like all Communist movements, are big on Women's liberation. PKK took to Mao's "Women holding up half of the sky" quite seriously, as women makes up 35-40% of the YPG combat unit and fight on the frontlines.

    Chinese Communists also had all women battalion in its early years, all the way thru Long March. Presumably, after Japanese invasion, with plentiful of recruits, this practise was gradually phased out. But on Hainan Island, all women Communist battalions persisted all the way thru Japanese Occupation till 1950s Communist take over of the island. In fact, the famous Communist Chinese ballet, "Red Detachment of Women" is based on this unit

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Detachment_of_Women_(ballet)

    In quite a few of the YPG interviews, YPG women fighters talk about anti-capitalism and how they are fighting for a new society.

    So yes, today's YPG is Chinese Communists of the yesteryears.

    Even their rise share many parallel.

    Japanese invasion destroyed the existing government structure, allowing Communists to take cover the countryside.

    Syrian Government rule have been shattered by Islamist rebellion supported by US, Gulf states and Turkey, allowing YPG to establish control in the Syrian Kurdish Area.

    One can even make the comparison of YPG to old Chinese Communist guerrillas in Japanes Occupied Northern China, and ISIS as the Japanese Imperial Army.

    , @CaoMengDe
    It's no surprise that YPG is the most effective fighting force on the ground against ISIS, even more so than Peshmerga.

    Just ask Iraqi Yezidi refugees of Mount Sinjar.

    KDP controlled Peshmerga basically abandoned them during the first wave of ISIS assault, pulling out the night before, exposing Yezidi civilians to the tender mercy of ISIS fighters.

    It was YPG that rushed across Syrian border and eventually punched thru ISIS lines to establish a humanitarian corridor to allow the bulk of Yezidi to escape to Syria and then Turkey.

    KDP controlled Peshmerga, quite frankly, had a disappointing performance in the beginning of the ISIS offensive. Peshmerga was much, much better equipped than YPG who are mostly armed with light arms like PK47.

    Yet, YPG fighters are highly motivated, highly disciplined, their performance at Mount Sinjar and their defense of Kobane against ISIS is truly heroic.

    Indeed, it's after I witness much of what YPG has done, it reminded me of Chinese Communist Eight Route Army during the Resistance against Japanese Invasion.
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  • Andrew G. Walder emphasises that the Communist Party triumphed in the Chinese because of its high level of discipline and order:

    http://newbooksineastasianstudies.com/2015/08/14/andrew-g-walder-china-under-mao-a-revolution-derailed-harvard-up-2015/

    This certainly matches everything I’ve read about the early PRC period in Tibet. There was no pillage and rapine when the People’s Liberation Army showed up. They scrupulously and successfully avoided doing things that would create enemies … until the government got around to implementing its actual policies a few years later …

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    Andrew G. Walder emphasises that the Communist Party triumphed in the Chinese because of its high level of discipline and order:
     
    Pretty much.

    I am watching the YPG fighting ISIS in the Syrian Civil War. They are probably the closest thing to the Chinese Communist Army during the Japanese Invasion and Chinese Civil War.

    Not really surprising since YPG is basically a branch of PKK. It looks like PKK founder Ocalan really took Mao's People's War to heart.

    Even Ocalan's new "Democratic Confederalism" looks suspiciously like Mao's "New Democracy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democracy

    Mao's "New Democratic Revolution" is basically his way of rallying broad based support while building Communist bases in Japanese Occupied Areas. Class struggles were cast aside in favor of rallying different segment of population including landlords and local gentry in the United Front to fight the Japanese Occupiers.

    I am not saying that once PKK grabs power they will also discard their "Democratic Autonomy" concept just like how Chinese Communist moved straight from "New Democracy" to class struggle and re-making the society.

    But so far, YPG looks like they are doing a good job and getting a lot of support.

    YPG's fight against ISIS is probably the closest thing today to a Good vs Evil fight right now.

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  • Angkor Wat is an icon of architecture. Arguably one can speak of it in the same breath as the pyramids of Giza or the Taj Mahal. Angkor Wat is a concrete manifestation of the apogee of Khmer civilization, which extended to the Chao Praya to the west, and the estuary of the Mekong to the...
  • @jtgw
    I'm curious about the difference between Cambodians and Vietnamese. I understand the consensus in linguistics is now that Vietnamese belongs to the Austro-Asiatic family along with Khmer, and indeed both are now grouped together in the Mon-Khmer branch of the family (another branch being the Munda languages of India). Thai, on the other hand, belongs to a completely unrelated language family (Tai-Kadai), while Burmese belongs to the Tibeto-Burman branch of Sino-Tibetan, i.e. distantly related to Chinese.

    What are your thoughts on the relationship between these linguistic relations and the somewhat divergent genetic relations?

    And it's nice to get this confirmation of the specialness of Cambodians. Their dark complexions vis-a-vis other SE Asians always jumped out at me.

    Viets are interesting. They spread from the north during the Common Era, just like Burmese and Thais, but unlike Burmese and Thais, their linguistic relatives already lived in SE Asia. It’s hard to overstate Chinese cultural influence on Vietnam, so genetic relatedness is not surprising, either.

    By the way, Wikipedia claims “However, Mon–Khmer as a taxon has been abandoned in recent classifications, making Proto-Mon–Khmer synonymous with Proto-Austroasiatic”. I’m just passing this along as internet trivia – I have no insights. Citation needed.

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    I'm not a specialist in Austro-Asiatic languages either and don't claim special insights. I do have training in historical linguistics so I know that what they mean by abandoning Mon-Khmer as a taxon is that the languages previously grouped as Mon-Khmer don't appear to share enough linguistic innovations with respect to other Austro-Asiatic languages, such as Munda, to justify positing Mon-Khmer as an identifiable subgroup within Austro-Asiatic.

    But reading the rest of the entry I got the impression is that there is even now little consensus on the internal family structure of Austro-Asiatic; on the other hand, the consensus is now quite clear that Vietic should be included within the family (as well as that Vietic is itself a clearly identifiable subgroup). This contrasts with an older view that Vietic formed a separate family unrelated to Mon-Khmer. Another older view, interestingly, was that the Tai languages belonged within Sino-Tibetan, but that also seems to have been abandoned by specialists.

    Aside from this, your scenario makes sense of the situation. The Proto-Vietic speakers had somehow become separated from other Austro-Asiatic speakers early on, such that they were situated to the north while other AA speakers inhabited SE Asia (where Proto-Austro-Asiatic seems to originate, correct?). Later, Vietic speakers moved (back?) south, I suppose carrying with them considerable linguistic evidence of their contact with Chinese during their northern sojourn, and possibly paving the way for the centuries of further Chinese cultural dominance.

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  • @Anonymous
    Please see Thant Myintu's "Where China Meets India" for some thoughts on increased early first millenium contacts between south India and Burma (specifically), the result in part of increased trade, stimulated by Roman prohibitions on gold exports, disruptions on gold imports from Inner Asian sources, and efforts to find new gold sources in southeast Asia. Centuries old bronze-age urban settlements in Burma (with strong connections to Yunnan) 'suddenly' became oriented towards South India (with related adoptions of Indian scripts, Buddhism, etc) around 100-300 AD.

    Any idea if this appears to be caused by the degradation of indigenous polities & culture centers in the vicinity of Yunnan by the expanding power of the Chinese state?

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  • I went to the Santa Monica Pier on Friday evening, but I missed the donnybrook down the beach at the Venice Pier the evening before. From the LA Times: One lesson is that you don't want to get into a fistfight with a lifeguard: the biggest guy got knocked out cold. But another lesson might...
  • @Boisfeuras
    The "ian" and "yan" name endings are identical.

    In the Cyrillic alphabet, ian/yan is spelled ян, where the backwards-R is pronounced "ya" or "eeyah". One possible explanation (just guessing), is that the pre-1924 Diaspora immigrants translated their names from the Eastern Armenian alphabet, while the ex-Soviet immigrants translated their names from their USSR-issued identity papers.

    It seems like the Russian-influenced spelling -yan is more accurate to pronunciation: per Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%D5%B5%D5%A1%D5%B6), the -ian should be one syllable, starting with a “y” sound. Not sure why the “-ian” spelling convention developed for Armenians outside of Russia, but I guess because there are no words in Western European languages where consonant y is used other than at the beginning of the word, people felt resistant to using it to spell the Armenian patronymic suffix.

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    No, I don't think that is quite accurate. The Wiktionary page shows that it derives from the traditional/Old Armenian form "e-a-n", but that it is now spelled (in Armenian) "j-a-n". Since the latter "e" has a "ye" sound when it is word initial, then, regardless of pronunciation, it would be been normal to spell it that way, alternatively.

    Note that someone else noted "Sarkeesian" (for some Canadian feminist) vs. "Sarkisyan" (for one of the brawlers). That denotes two ways of indicating a "long e" ("ee" vs. "i") and two ways of indicating this ending, "ian" and "yan."

    I don't think bias or resistance has anything to do with it; I do think that older Armenians who came at the beginning of the 20th C. used more American based phonics for spelling names than strict transliteration, which was actually very common once upon a time (e.g., the composer Rachmaninoff always insisted that his name be spelled that way because that's how a final Russian "v" will be pronounced, but if it is was transliterated as "Rachmaninov" most people will voice the final "v", which is wrong.)

    However, I don't think any of this indicates generations. Have we forgotten William Saroyan?
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  • The control of Central Asia has been a core part of international relations since the “Great Game” between Tsarist Russia and the British Empire. At the turn of the 20th century, John Halford Mackinder developed the “Heartland Theory,” which revolves around the concept of a pivot area/Heartland, that covers Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Western China...
  • @Seraphim
    @This whole Heartland concept doesn’t make much sense

    You seem to not have understood what Mackinder was talking about. A simple summary was given by the Wikipedia:

    "He outlined the following ways in which the Heartland might become a springboard for global domination in the twentieth century:
    Successful invasion of Russia by a West European nation (most probably Germany). Mackinder believed that the introduction of the railroad had removed the Heartland's invulnerability to land invasion. As Eurasia began to be covered by an extensive network of railroads, there was an excellent chance that a powerful continental nation could extend its political control over the Eastern European gateway to the Eurasian landmass. In Mackinder's words, "Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland."
    A Russo-German alliance. Before 1917 both countries were ruled by autocrats (the Tsar and the Kaiser), and both could have been attracted to an alliance against the democratic powers of Western Europe (the US was isolationist regarding European affairs, until it became a participant of World War I in 1917). Germany would have contributed to such an alliance its formidable army and its large and growing sea power.
    Conquest of Russia by a Sino-Japanese empire.
    The combined empire's large East Asian coastline would also provide the potential for it to become a major sea power. Mackinder's "Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland ..." does not cover this scenario, probably because the previous 2 scenarios were seen as the major risks of the nineteenth century and the early 1900s.
    One of Mackinder's personal objectives was to warn Britain that its traditional reliance on sea power would become a weakness as improved land transport opened up the Heartland for invasion and / or industrialisation.

    The objectives of the Outer Insular Crescent was, and remained, to prevent any of these scenarios to happen. What they could not conceive was the possibility of a strategic collaboration between Russia and China.

    So, it appears that none of Mackinder’s ideas as summarised here have any resemblance to what subsequently happened in world history. Therefore, one might conclude that Mackinder was a failure at understanding how the world works or talking about anything of relevance. Perhaps it is unwise to try to view real-life Xinjiang today, or the price of tea in China for that matter, through Mackinder’s lens.

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    @Perhaps it is unwise to try to view real-life Xinjiang today, or the price of tea in China for that matter, through Mackinder’s lens.

    Of course, Murphy's Laws have universal application. Perhaps one should try to tell that to Zbignew Brzezinski.

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  • @PandaAtWar
    You don't count today's population as some THE evidence of "ownership".

    If that were the case, London should be granted as independent state of West Pakistan or West Hindustan, Southwest Germany should be West Turkistan, Detroit should be North Carribean, LA should be North Mexicana...

    That is the basic logic, particularly when the Han Chinese have been subject to 1-child policy, while the Uighurs have been encouraged to breed as many as they like in the past decades with all the goodies of free coupons of free mutton, beef, cash hangouts amongst many other priviledged minority policies of the Maoists.

    However painful you might feel, face the cold and fair reality: the Uighurs have today's population size for a good reason that has been handed to them in a silver plate by Mao as a kind-hearted Marxist "charity" (the similar reason why India or Africa or Muslims in the West have their population sizes of today), which was not available in the entire pre-Communist history of Imperial China when the single biggest success factor, hence the legit land ownership in China or elsewhere on this blue planet, had always been the good 'n old Darwinian force, being economics or military, of a tribe that wasn't, isn't, and won't be, the Uighurs in that neighbourhood, Panda tells yer.

    As for your Uighurs or Uighers spellings, the only person who gave two hoot was the dead Red Soviet official in the 1920s who coined the word. Yeah right, so-called "Uighurs" even didn't call themselves such for pretty much the entire history until 1920s.

    Panda doesn't know how to sepll Ukraine, so what? UNZ.org is a forum for ideas and opinions, if you are excited about spellingbee contest warm-up or a summer camp, off then the 3nd door on your left. ROFL

    Dear Panda,

    What is the thing that I said that you disagree with? You sound disagreeable, but I don’t see any engagement with anything specific that I wrote.

    Also, I have no idea which words you know how to spell and don’t care. I think the author of the article itself should spell the subject of the article right.

    P.S. It is ironic but not terribly surprising that I replied below to your remark “As for your Uighurs or Uighers spellings, the only person who gave two hoot was the dead Red Soviet official in the 1920s who coined the word” prior to knowing that you had written it.

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    Actually you're right, in a sense that being too fast and too eager Panda had finished replying you before realised that there was indeed no major disgreement there to start with, except that Uighu/er minor spelling drivel. Haha, my fault, apologies.
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  • @Greg Pandatshang
    Commenters are correct that Uyghurs mostly live in the southern half of Xinjiang. The northern half was once Oirat and was subsequently repopulated with a mix of Uyghurs, Han Chinese, and Sinophone Muslims. Even today, the southern half has as a Uyghur majority, while the northern half probably never did. On the other hand, the Uyghurs are a large minority in the north and, moreover, the entirety of Xinjiang is designated a “Uyghur Autonomous Area” by the Chinese government. So, the map accurately reflect official boundaries, if not current or historical demography.

    Editorially, your site may wish to correct Cochrane’s spelling to Uyghur. Some people write “Uigher”, but nobody writes “Uygher”. It would be tough to take somebody seriously writing about, say, Ukraine, if they didn’t know how to spell the word Ukraine right.

    This is embarrrassing. I made a typo in my complaint about spelling. Some people write “Uighur”. My point is that the -ur ending, not -er, is unanimous.

    P.S. Here’s a bit more anti-pedant pedantry: you might get pedants arguing that Uyghur is the wrong name for these people. It’s true that that name not applied to them before the early/mid-20th century – named after an ancient empire which is not especially closely related. Older sources call them Turki or Taranchi or Hui, &c. But still, nowadays, “Uyghur” is what everyone calls them nowadays, include self-application.

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  • @Seamus Padraig

    Militarising the Tibetan conflict sounds nice and all, except the PLA has at least 1 man under arms for every 3 Tibetans in the world: men, women, and children. Any such conflict would be ridiculously one-sided.
     
    I never meant to suggest that the Tibetans could win--probably one important reason why the Dalai Llama has avoided going down that route. But once he's gone, The Exceptional Empire might not care. What do Tibetans really mean to Washington? Just more pawns in the Great Game! They might come to see a Tibetan war as a way of

    a.) disrupting silk road and pipeline construction

    b.) forcing China to divert more resources away from productive investment into security, and

    c.) creating a narrative of 'genocidal Chinese' that the western MSM can use to pressure Washinton's remaining vassals not to upgrade links with China and move away from the dollar-régime.

    The whole thing would somewhat resemble their strategy in Ukraine. I mean, what chance does Ukraine have of beating Russia? Or even of long surviving without it? But it has been a good excuse to get Washington's Euro-muppets to sanction Russia, hasn't it?

    I also agree with Johann Ricke's comments above (#24).

    Fair enough. It is possible that Washington will push Tibetans to militarise despite the fact that that is a bad idea for the Tibetans. That’s interesting to consider. I’m less enthusiastic about Johann Ricke’s comments. Strategically, better odds would be to keep asking for a diplomatic solution, and wait for a time when China’s leadership wants to offer an acceptable deal. That could take decades or centuries, but it’s less unlikely than a bunch of Tibetans defeating China in a war.

    The population and military imbalance between Tibet and China is obviously much greater than the imbalance between Ukraine and Russia.

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  • @Ron Unz

    Dear PAUL COCHRANE, you’d better quoting the fellow commentors here like itlee, CaoMengDe, or Panda, rather than that Mehmud bugger! LOL
     
    Actually, the questionable map in question was added as a simple illustration by The Review based on a bit of very casual (and ignorant) Googling. Therefore, Mr. Cochrane bears absolutely no responsibility for its selection.

    Commenters are correct that Uyghurs mostly live in the southern half of Xinjiang. The northern half was once Oirat and was subsequently repopulated with a mix of Uyghurs, Han Chinese, and Sinophone Muslims. Even today, the southern half has as a Uyghur majority, while the northern half probably never did. On the other hand, the Uyghurs are a large minority in the north and, moreover, the entirety of Xinjiang is designated a “Uyghur Autonomous Area” by the Chinese government. So, the map accurately reflect official boundaries, if not current or historical demography.

    Editorially, your site may wish to correct Cochrane’s spelling to Uyghur. Some people write “Uigher”, but nobody writes “Uygher”. It would be tough to take somebody seriously writing about, say, Ukraine, if they didn’t know how to spell the word Ukraine right.

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    • Replies: @PandaAtWar
    You don't count today's population as some THE evidence of "ownership".

    If that were the case, London should be granted as independent state of West Pakistan or West Hindustan, Southwest Germany should be West Turkistan, Detroit should be North Carribean, LA should be North Mexicana...

    That is the basic logic, particularly when the Han Chinese have been subject to 1-child policy, while the Uighurs have been encouraged to breed as many as they like in the past decades with all the goodies of free coupons of free mutton, beef, cash hangouts amongst many other priviledged minority policies of the Maoists.

    However painful you might feel, face the cold and fair reality: the Uighurs have today's population size for a good reason that has been handed to them in a silver plate by Mao as a kind-hearted Marxist "charity" (the similar reason why India or Africa or Muslims in the West have their population sizes of today), which was not available in the entire pre-Communist history of Imperial China when the single biggest success factor, hence the legit land ownership in China or elsewhere on this blue planet, had always been the good 'n old Darwinian force, being economics or military, of a tribe that wasn't, isn't, and won't be, the Uighurs in that neighbourhood, Panda tells yer.

    As for your Uighurs or Uighers spellings, the only person who gave two hoot was the dead Red Soviet official in the 1920s who coined the word. Yeah right, so-called "Uighurs" even didn't call themselves such for pretty much the entire history until 1920s.

    Panda doesn't know how to sepll Ukraine, so what? UNZ.org is a forum for ideas and opinions, if you are excited about spellingbee contest warm-up or a summer camp, off then the 3nd door on your left. ROFL

    , @Greg Pandatshang
    This is embarrrassing. I made a typo in my complaint about spelling. Some people write “Uighur”. My point is that the -ur ending, not -er, is unanimous.

    P.S. Here’s a bit more anti-pedant pedantry: you might get pedants arguing that Uyghur is the wrong name for these people. It’s true that that name not applied to them before the early/mid-20th century – named after an ancient empire which is not especially closely related. Older sources call them Turki or Taranchi or Hui, &c. But still, nowadays, “Uyghur” is what everyone calls them nowadays, include self-application.
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  • @Seamus Padraig
    Cochrane's analysis is extremely good. American readers need to learn more about Mackinder's Eurasian Heartland theory, since that is the guiding principle behind US foreign policy today.

    There is, however, one possibility Cochrane overlooks here: once the Dalai Llama dies, the US could radicalize the Tibetans and militarize that conflict. Because they are Bhuddist rather than Moslem, they might make a more sympathetic impression on Western audiences. The CIA has had a close relationship with Dalai Llama for years, but it seem the DL has been against militarizing the situation. Once he goes, that could quickly change.

    Militarising the Tibetan conflict sounds nice and all, except the PLA has at least 1 man under arms for every 3 Tibetans in the world: men, women, and children. Any such conflict would be ridiculously one-sided.

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    Militarising the Tibetan conflict sounds nice and all, except the PLA has at least 1 man under arms for every 3 Tibetans in the world: men, women, and children. Any such conflict would be ridiculously one-sided.
     
    It would involve low intensity warfare, rather than an all-out conventional attack. They would bide their time until the occurrence of instability in China. Finland obtained its independence largely as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    Militarising the Tibetan conflict sounds nice and all, except the PLA has at least 1 man under arms for every 3 Tibetans in the world: men, women, and children. Any such conflict would be ridiculously one-sided.
     
    I never meant to suggest that the Tibetans could win--probably one important reason why the Dalai Llama has avoided going down that route. But once he's gone, The Exceptional Empire might not care. What do Tibetans really mean to Washington? Just more pawns in the Great Game! They might come to see a Tibetan war as a way of

    a.) disrupting silk road and pipeline construction

    b.) forcing China to divert more resources away from productive investment into security, and

    c.) creating a narrative of 'genocidal Chinese' that the western MSM can use to pressure Washinton's remaining vassals not to upgrade links with China and move away from the dollar-régime.

    The whole thing would somewhat resemble their strategy in Ukraine. I mean, what chance does Ukraine have of beating Russia? Or even of long surviving without it? But it has been a good excuse to get Washington's Euro-muppets to sanction Russia, hasn't it?

    I also agree with Johann Ricke's comments above (#24).
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  • @Wally
    Yes, and I doubt the Tibetans really think much of US gay marriage or the US applauded sex change surgeries.

    A fact: the US is disliked more & more for so many reasons.

    Why on earth, do you figure, would they care very much? These people have a lot of basic national interest issues to worry about. I doubt they like SSM and whatnot, but I also doubt they lose a lot of sleep over somebody thousands of miles away doing it.

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    You missed the point utterly.

    They do not want what the US would necessarily bring them.
    Got it?

    Now go and read the article under discussion.

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