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    My take on Defender of the Faith’s bottom line is Genug, Genug (Yiddish for I’ve had more than enough, in this instance for coreligionists playing the old school tie gambit)!

    Actually this exasperation at Jewish behavior seems at variance with most of Roth’s other works where this same game is carried out.
     
    Well, he kinda learned the hard way. I remember Roth's account of the aftermath of the publication of Defender of the Faith. He was raked over the coals & denounced by the Rabbi in Temple as "having accomplished what Hitler couldn't," by mainstreaming criticism of the Jews. Roth was quite taken aback & claimed he thereby learned what he didn't know before: that "good" meant "what's good for the Jews."

    SND:

    Thank you for your interesting and informative comments on Roth. Until your post I was unaware of his coreligionists’ heavy criticisms of Defender of the Faith. These criticisms explains a lot about the trajectories of his later works (which I have always considered somewhat deranged in its sense of persecution).

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    Roderick Spode:

    My take on Defender of the Faith's bottom line is Genug, Genug (Yiddish for I've had more than enough, in this instance for coreligionists playing the old school tie gambit)!

    Actually this exasperation at Jewish behavior seems at variance with most of Roth's other works where this same game is carried out.

    My take on Defender of the Faith’s bottom line is Genug, Genug (Yiddish for I’ve had more than enough, in this instance for coreligionists playing the old school tie gambit)!

    Actually this exasperation at Jewish behavior seems at variance with most of Roth’s other works where this same game is carried out.

    Well, he kinda learned the hard way. I remember Roth’s account of the aftermath of the publication of Defender of the Faith. He was raked over the coals & denounced by the Rabbi in Temple as “having accomplished what Hitler couldn’t,” by mainstreaming criticism of the Jews. Roth was quite taken aback & claimed he thereby learned what he didn’t know before: that “good” meant “what’s good for the Jews.”

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    Well, he kinda learned the hard way. I remember Roth’s account of the aftermath of the publication of Defender of the Faith. He was raked over the coals & denounced by the Rabbi in Temple as “having accomplished what Hitler couldn’t,” by mainstreaming criticism of the Jews. Roth was quite taken aback & claimed he thereby learned what he didn’t know before: that “good” meant “what’s good for the Jews.”
     
    That sounds like a bit of retconning. Josh Nathan-Kazis shared clippings on Twitter in this thread showing that the Jewish media hated Portnoy's Complaint when it came out, 10 years after Defender of the Faith.

    https://twitter.com/joshnathankazis/status/999393814170230785
    , @Dan Hayes
    SND:

    Thank you for your interesting and informative comments on Roth. Until your post I was unaware of his coreligionists' heavy criticisms of Defender of the Faith. These criticisms explains a lot about the trajectories of his later works (which I have always considered somewhat deranged in its sense of persecution).

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    As someone without the patience to read an entire Roth novel when I’ve already got a couple other books checked out, I thank you for linking Defender of the Faith. The New Yorker tends to just give summaries of older articles to non-subscribers, so it was nice to get the full thing there.

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  • @Roderick Spode
    I remember 'Defender of the Faith.'

    Is the premise of that story that Jews don't actually like each other very much?

    If so, it amounts to literary realpolitik.

    Roderick Spode:

    My take on Defender of the Faith’s bottom line is Genug, Genug (Yiddish for I’ve had more than enough, in this instance for coreligionists playing the old school tie gambit)!

    Actually this exasperation at Jewish behavior seems at variance with most of Roth’s other works where this same game is carried out.

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    My take on Defender of the Faith’s bottom line is Genug, Genug (Yiddish for I’ve had more than enough, in this instance for coreligionists playing the old school tie gambit)!

    Actually this exasperation at Jewish behavior seems at variance with most of Roth’s other works where this same game is carried out.
     
    Well, he kinda learned the hard way. I remember Roth's account of the aftermath of the publication of Defender of the Faith. He was raked over the coals & denounced by the Rabbi in Temple as "having accomplished what Hitler couldn't," by mainstreaming criticism of the Jews. Roth was quite taken aback & claimed he thereby learned what he didn't know before: that "good" meant "what's good for the Jews."
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  • I share the general sadness—which I think is particularly felt among us of the stone-kicking community—at the passing of the writer Tom Wolfe. Reviewing his novel I Am Charlotte Simmons, I prefaced my review with some general expressions of admiration, thus: How does this conservative look forward to a new Tom Wolfe novel? Let me...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Dieter Kief:

    If as you say "Wolfe loved Freud", it would appear that he expressed his affection in a novel way by stating that "the demise of Freudianism can be summed up in a single word: lithium."

    Exactly. Fraudianism delayed the discovery of mental illness medication for 100 years. In another 100 years Dr Fraud will be just a paragraph in the history books.

    Reason Dr Fraud put all the emphasis on sex is that he knew sex sells.

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  • Most of the guys who have been #MeTooed so far haven't been much of a loss. But here are some interesting observations from an email about superstar Harvard economist Roland Fryer, today being #MeTooed for (as far as I can tell at present) not much: Well, not that poor ...
  • @anon
    Off topic

    I know Steve’s interested in exam results so I thought I’d post it.

    NYC schools new chancellor Richard Carrenza has decided to scrap the entrance exams for Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and the other prestige public schools in NYC in favor of holistic admissions

    So if you live in NYC and have kids who’ll be going to high school soon, be sure to check the black box and ensure your kids admission and save yourself $10,000 to $40,000 private school tuition.

    Anonymous[257]:

    New York state law currently precludes such actions (scrapping the entrance exams to top-notch NYC high schools).

    It will be interesting to see if these schools survive the current liberal zeitgeist. It all depends on whether the old school ties of the influential alumni (mainly old-time Jewish liberals) put up a fight to preserve testing.

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  • From The Algemeiner, a right of center Jewish publication: The top of the list with their estimated percentages of Jewish students: And selected others from their Top 40 Worst for Jews: Generally speaking, the worst colleges for Jews according to The Algemeiner are heavily Jewish, heavily progressive colleges. The Algemeiner’s 2nd Annual List of the...
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    @Dan Hayes
    Michelle:

    Hard to believe that Canadians are uptight about the Jews (or about anything else for that matter!).

    The few interactions I've had with them are that they are of the most milquetoast variety (as exemplifies by Justin Trudeau).

    Lots of anti-semitism in Quebec historically.

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  • My new column in Taki's Magazine is a book review of the tell-all biography Tiger Woods by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian: Read the whole thing there.
  • @AndrewR
    They didn't like people criticizing the Jews so they shut the comments down.

    AndrewR:

    If that’s the case (shutting down the comments section for criticizing Jews) then they should have shut down its proprietor Taki!

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  • Roth started strong, fell off the pace when a novelist is typically in his prime, then rebounded remarkably in his 60s and kept going in his 70s. His rival Updike, in contrast, took an odd pleasure in having a career like an athlete's, with a long decline phase after a mid-career peak. As I wrote...
  • @Anonymous
    In a possibly apocrphyal story, a certain Hollywood actress shook hands with Philip Roth, at a major showbiz awards ceremony, but without knowing exactly who the distinguished gent she shook hands with was. Asking a fellow thespian, the identity of the stranger was confirmed.

    "Gee" she allegedly said, looking down at her hand, "I just hope he washed his hands".

    (Sorry).

    Anonymous [420]:

    Some time ago I heard novelist Jacqueline Susann making the statement “I hoped he washed his hands” on the Long John Nebel radio program.

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  • From The New Republic: Business Class Inside the strange, uniform politics of today’s MBA programs—and what it says about America's elites By JOHN BENJAMIN May 14, 2018 ... But in truth, MBA programs are not the open forums advertised in admissions brochures. Behind this façade, they are ideological institutions committed to a strict blend of...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    This article can be pithily summarized by stating that the purpose of business schools are to produce or further refine a coterie of courtiers and enablers.

    That is the role of the entire Ed Biz now.

    And for good reason: countless trillions of increased-productivity dollars have been skimmed off the top of the economy in the past half century, to rest in the control of rich families/corporations and their “charitable” foundations.

    Learning to be a lapdog in academe–either for the term of your degree studies or for keeps with tenure–involves learning how to enable the whims of and court the dollars of this hermetically sealed global blingocracy.

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  • From the New York Times: Immigration is so often sold in the Anglosphere like this: as a way to revitalize depopulating small towns. Yet, immigrants themselves overwhelmingly prefer to flock to the big, expensive cities of Australia, Canada, and the U.S., exacerbating the affordable housing crisis. For example, when there was a huge energy boom...
  • @Anonymous
    Immigrants should be encouraged to go to places like Philadelphia which are ready to be gentrified. Illegal Latino immigrants would do a great job of softening that city up and open the way for the foundation of a great city on par with New York, SF, and LA.

    Anonymous[126]:

    Now that Linh Dinh has returned to Vietnam it’s especially important to fill this void in Philly with Latino illegals!

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  • From the New York Times: I can't keep all this Spy vs. Spy stuff straight in my head, but I did observe a two-generation link from the, uh, purported FBI investigator to that pinnacle of American Deep State competence ... yes ... The Bay of Pigs. Here's a 1983 New York Times article by Leslie...
  • @LondonBob
    Wasn't the idea to start the obviously doomed invasion then force JFK to send in the Marines as it started failing? A lousy plan with one obvious flaw.

    LondonBob:

    Until recently I would have thought it somewhat of a stretch to start an obviously doomed invasion for the purposes of eventually sending in the Marines. But now I’m not so sure in view of what we’ve recently been learning about the operations of the Deep State.

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  • I share the general sadness—which I think is particularly felt among us of the stone-kicking community—at the passing of the writer Tom Wolfe. Reviewing his novel I Am Charlotte Simmons, I prefaced my review with some general expressions of admiration, thus: How does this conservative look forward to a new Tom Wolfe novel? Let me...
  • Dieter Kief:

    If as you say “Wolfe loved Freud”, it would appear that he expressed his affection in a novel way by stating that “the demise of Freudianism can be summed up in a single word: lithium.”

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    I know this type of remarks of Wolfe.
    Here he rejects Freudianism, this might make a difference.
    Plus, you might want to look at my answer to gjackson in comment No. 61.

    That Wolfe wrote about PC lately is good news. - The big contemporary realm of - I hope, you don't mind , - the Freud's (father Sigmund and daughter Anna) realm of the neurotic defense mechanisms.

    A realm, that is funny, very funnyat times, as it is sad, too. A tension, which results in our uneasiness in culture (because sublimation is no natural thing).

    And not only in the case of the Freudian slip: Humor is one of the ways out of our existential dilemmas - and Wolfe got that big one and belabored it in stunning - perfection, I'd hold.


    I'm grateful to this truly Gentle White (hehe...) - - Giant.

    RIP, Tom Wolfe.

    , @anon
    Exactly. Fraudianism delayed the discovery of mental illness medication for 100 years. In another 100 years Dr Fraud will be just a paragraph in the history books.

    Reason Dr Fraud put all the emphasis on sex is that he knew sex sells.
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  • Starbucks' supremo Howard Schultz knows far more about making money than I do. But lately he's gotten himself into a jam as the Eye of Soros has turned toward his vast chain of coffee shops with their deep pockets. Retail's usual workaround to keep freeloading lowlifes away is to play classical music 24/7. But classical...
  • @Anon
    A friend does the senior citizen lunch program in a community center in a gay neighborhood

    The community center of course has 2 big bathrooms. So many gays were doing it in the bathrooms that she made the parks department hire a security guard for both bathrooms. The guards stay in the bathrooms and they took the doors off the stalls in the men’s room.

    Anon:

    Its just MODERN TIMES!

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  • @Anonymous
    'Starbucks' - now there's an interesting name for your local neighborhood 'public convenience'.

    The signposts reading 'Ladies & Gents' used to suffice before private enterprise graciously decided to 'contract out' the former responsibility of local government.
    One must wonder if the new-fangled conveniences - which, by the way, retail overpriced 'coffee' as a sideline - will evolve into 'cottages' for 'cruising' gay men, as, alas, so many of the local government run 'public toilets' did - why do you think that the former public toilets more or less vanished from the landscape these past 50 years? - that and oil crisis induced penny pinching.

    Anonymous[619]:

    Because of muggers, dopesters, gays, all NYC subway rest rooms were abolished from the time of Bonfire of the Vanities. The only exceptions were those located at line ends for the convenience of motormen and conductors.

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  • From the New York Times: I can't keep all this Spy vs. Spy stuff straight in my head, but I did observe a two-generation link from the, uh, purported FBI investigator to that pinnacle of American Deep State competence ... yes ... The Bay of Pigs. Here's a 1983 New York Times article by Leslie...
  • @dearieme
    Fair point. But what sort of numbskull would compromise by ordering the invasion but vetoing the air attack?

    dearieme:

    By cancelling air support JFK literally guaranteed the invader’s deaths and imprisonments.

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    Wasn't the idea to start the obviously doomed invasion then force JFK to send in the Marines as it started failing? A lousy plan with one obvious flaw.
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  • By the NYT’s logic, the Rosenbergs weren’t spies either: they were just investigating atomic research.

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  • From the Washington Post, which is personally owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos: Progressives were outraged that the sacred American principle of giving a lavish government subsidy to the World's Richest Man was being questioned: How dare the President of the United States notice that the World's Richest Man (net worth $131.2 billion, up $64...
  • @Pat Boyle
    It's sad that Tom Wolfe has died before he could write a piece on the Post Office.

    I came West in the sixties to work at the Rincon Annex Post Office in San Francisco and to live in the Haight Ashbury. On the whole the Post Office was crazier and more colorful.

    I sorted mail from three in the morning till seven. Then I went to school. The Post Office was another kind of school. It was rotten with artists and would-be artists. I was lambasted by another postal clerk once who had decided that I disagreed with him on so many matters because unlike virtually everyone else there, I wasn't an artist. I explained that I was an opera singer but that cut no mustard with him. I didn't paint, so I couldn't be expected to hold appropriate political views.

    The management was composed of half wits who had somehow gravitated to the one organization on earth where halfwits were given management jobs. I'll always remember the day when a total fool was made our section's supervisor. He immediately took up cigar smoking. All the bosses who roamed the work floor had a well chewed stogy clamped in their teeth. They were living a cartoon stereotype existence and proud of it.

    I wish I could write like Wolfe.

    Pat Boyle:

    In the 60s to get a job as foreman in the NYC Post Office required (I believe) a $2,000 pay off, or so I heard!

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    In the 60s to get a job as foreman in the NYC Post Office required (I believe) a $2,000 pay off, or so I heard!
     
    Given that the average new car was around $3K, that was a good chunk of cash.
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  • “Hatched, matched, and dispatched”—my mother’s term for the births, marriages, and deaths columns in our local paper. Let's visit the hatcheries. What's mainly happening in the hatcheries: a slowdown of business. Americans are not making as many babies as we used to: Births plunge to record lows in United States, MSN, May 17, 2018. The...
  • I stopped reading after coming across the Sophia Loren GIF. I became entranced. The weed helped.

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  • From The Algemeiner, a right of center Jewish publication: The top of the list with their estimated percentages of Jewish students: And selected others from their Top 40 Worst for Jews: Generally speaking, the worst colleges for Jews according to The Algemeiner are heavily Jewish, heavily progressive colleges. The Algemeiner’s 2nd Annual List of the...
  • @Hibernian
    The IACRL was started by a mobster under indictment or at least under investigation; he was killed on the orders oh higher ups in the Mob because tha IACRL was generating too much publicity (especially due to massive public rallies.)

    Hibernian:

    But it gets even more preposterously interesting. The mobster Joe Colombo was shot (only to die invalided many years later) by a black hit man who in turn was assassinated before an enormous Columbus Day crowd. Of course nobody saw nutthing.

    Ya can’t make this stuff up!

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  • Starbucks' supremo Howard Schultz knows far more about making money than I do. But lately he's gotten himself into a jam as the Eye of Soros has turned toward his vast chain of coffee shops with their deep pockets. Retail's usual workaround to keep freeloading lowlifes away is to play classical music 24/7. But classical...
  • That’s actually a brilliant idea, Steve.

    You could write a letter to Starbucks. You could mention your market research experience.

    There are a few things you obviously shouldn’t mention.

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    This is a great idea. I suggest that this classical music by black musician marketing campaign have the slogan "Let the good times roll!"
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  • I wrote a lot in the early aughts about Jonah Goldberg’s apotheosis at National Review in the wake of William F. Buckley’s purge of immigration patriots like John O’Sullivan and VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow because I regarded him as a symbol and a symptom of the intellectual and moral degeneration of a magazine I once...
  • @utu
    Before he knew he was conservative he knew he was Jewish. His Jewishness is at least 20 years older than his conservatisms. If find Jesus before he dies he may stop being conservative but will remain a Jew.

    utu:

    I demur. If you read his political autobiography (vide Comment #31) you will soon realize that Gottfried got both his religion and his innate conservatism with his mother’s milk!

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  • From The Algemeiner, a right of center Jewish publication: The top of the list with their estimated percentages of Jewish students: And selected others from their Top 40 Worst for Jews: Generally speaking, the worst colleges for Jews according to The Algemeiner are heavily Jewish, heavily progressive colleges. The Algemeiner’s 2nd Annual List of the...
  • @Paleo Liberal
    I live a few miles from UW Madison. My wife works for UW Madison. One of my kids attends UW Madison.

    Is there bigotry there? Hell yes. The Madison liberals are far more bigoted than they like to think.

    There is also quite a bit of tension between "Sconnies" and "Coasties".

    Thing is, for many decades, UW has been a place where it is fashionable for wealthy New Yorkers to attend. This is especially true about the Jewish contingent. My sister-in-law taught at a yeshiva for wealthy Jews, and the kids got to attend for free. Lots of their wealthy classmates attend UW Madison.

    Fact of the matter, there is a bit of a culture clash between struggling Midwest farm kids and wealthy New Yorkers. There are fancy apartment building in Madison that are strictly for rich kid students. Sconnies can't afford those rents.

    Sometimes the culture clash leads to some good-natured ribbing, other times it gets a little nastier.

    I have never heard of violent anti-Semetic incidents. In fact, the Sconnies don't seem to really care that the Coasties are mostly Jewish. All they know is the Coasties are from a different culture, and the Coasties are far wealthier.

    Midwesterners are generally too polite to be really nasty about it, so I doubt things are as bad as the article makes it sound. And Jews are accepted here. When I moved to Madison, two of the best-known politicians were Jewish. Former Senator Feingold is Jewish, and the woman who was then mayor of Madison was a Jewish NYC transplant.

    Paleo Liberal:

    But don’t forget, University Wisconsin Madison has given us at least one who realized what was going on there in the person of (drumbeats): Kevin MacDonald!

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  • @Michelle
    Michigan is not surprising. High Muslim population and ex Canadians. An ex of mine was from Sheboygan, his mom's family were Canadian by way of Ireland. When I went to meet his family, he warned me, "My aunt seems like a sweet little old lady, but wait til she gets started on the "Jews" and their "Banks". I never got to hear it from his aunt, but his mom announced during dinner one evening that "There is a reason that everyone hates the Jews". When I began to ask her to elaborate upon her opinion, I became the most hated person in the room. I guess they were right, it was rude of me to question the hostess and my, possibly, future mother in law. She and I never did get along.

    Michelle:

    Hard to believe that Canadians are uptight about the Jews (or about anything else for that matter!).

    The few interactions I’ve had with them are that they are of the most milquetoast variety (as exemplifies by Justin Trudeau).

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    Lots of anti-semitism in Quebec historically.
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  • @San Fernando Curt
    Do we honestly know how much this supposed scourge "anti-Semitism" itself correlates with reality - or ever has?

    San Fernando, Jewish skin, like Black skin, is the thinnest skin around. Every slight is always because of anti Semitism or racism. Not that you could possibly be Jewish or Black and an asshole.

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  • From commenter Last Real Calvinist:
  • @Moses
    Seems to me there's more to the story here.

    Harry could have any young, beautiful, English woman he wants. Yet he chooses:
    - a Yank foreigner
    - a divorcee
    - a woman 3 years older than him (36, fertility plummeting by the hour)
    - a Hollywood actress (Weinstein scandal taught us what pretty much all actresses do for fame)
    - part African (how far from British can you get?)

    Doesn't pass the smell test. There's more going on here.

    Moses:

    I worked with a British woman some years ago who told me that the Royal Family was not very bright. In this sorry event, she was again proven correct.

    She also told me that she had seen the present queen at a racing event. Her comments: the queen had a lovely complexion and was totally enraptured (almost peeing in her drawers) with the equines. Bottom line: the English via Germany are indeed a very strange breed!

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  • From The Algemeiner, a right of center Jewish publication: The top of the list with their estimated percentages of Jewish students: And selected others from their Top 40 Worst for Jews: Generally speaking, the worst colleges for Jews according to The Algemeiner are heavily Jewish, heavily progressive colleges. The Algemeiner’s 2nd Annual List of the...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    I believe that our patron Ron may have some questions about Harvard's quoted anemic 12% Jewish population!

    BTW, read the full article's accompanying Discussion section for examples of unbridled paranoia!

    No, he ignores data that doesn’t support his pre-determined thesis.

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    Let's hear your predetermined thesis.
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  • Steve,

    I believe that our patron Ron may have some questions about Harvard’s quoted anemic 12% Jewish population!

    BTW, read the full article’s accompanying Discussion section for examples of unbridled paranoia!

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    No, he ignores data that doesn't support his pre-determined thesis.
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  • I wrote a lot in the early aughts about Jonah Goldberg’s apotheosis at National Review in the wake of William F. Buckley’s purge of immigration patriots like John O’Sullivan and VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow because I regarded him as a symbol and a symptom of the intellectual and moral degeneration of a magazine I once...
  • In the foregoing Comments there have been a lot of back-and-forth regarding Gottfried, with some even preposterously claiming him to be a Neocon.

    To clear up these misconceptions I would recommend reading Gottfried’s political autobiography, Encounters: My Life with Nixon, Marcuse, and Other Friends and Teachers. Its style is warm and endearing as opposed to Gottfried’s academic works which of necessity must be detached. Here Gottfried is revealed to be a principled man of the European Right. His aversion/disdain/dislike/animosity/hostility towards his Neocon coreligionists are truly awe inspiring! Unfortunately, amonst his coreligionists Gottfried seemingly appears to be an army of one!

    What appealed most to me was his description of his principled father who incidentally reminded me of my own father. Although coming from entirely different ethnic, work, and religious backgrounds, they shared the same unflinching bedrock principles.

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  • On May 6, there was a big free speech march through Central London jointly organized by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance and Veterans Against Terrorism. Many of the big names in the British Alt Lite were attending, so I decided to show up myself. (I appear in the sidelines a few times in this video...
  • @Spisarevski

    What this really means is that the Shia are in effect legitimists and beholden to natural order and hierarchy. The Supreme Ayatollah is the law of the land in Iran and you cannot exceed him theologically, and he more critically serves as a firebreak to radicalism because trying to out holy him gets you beheaded. It is also the reason why King, Church, and Pope were so necessary for the proper functioning of Europe until that devil Luther came along.
     
    How do you explain Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity then, the latter being much more chill historically even though it's less hierarchical?
    It's the Catholics who had inquisitions and crusades against other Christians, and if you read what the Spanish Catholics did to the Incas and the Mayas, they were pretty much exactly like ISIS.

    Uh, the Jesuits and other Catholic orders generally protected the native population from the depredations of the Conquistadors. They even translated the bible into Nahuatl and created grammars for language, along with preserving Aztec codexes for posterity, whilst the Pope declared a bill protecting natives (who had converted), not that it had much of an affect across the atlantic.

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    http://www.recorder.com/Archives/2015/11/Ae-BoliivianMusicGuilfordFEAT-GR-120315
    Fr. Piotr Nawrot, who is also a musicologist, was convinced in the 1970s that the remnants of Baroque musical manuscripts brought to the jungles of the New World by Jesuit missionaries beginning in the 1670s had been hidden by the native tribes.

    What he discovered over time were 8,000 pages of manuscripts, many composed by converted South American musicians themselves, in the style of Vivaldi and Corelli but also steeped in the cultures of the Chiquitos and Moxos provinces of eastern Bolivia.

    Over time, Nawrot reconstructed the manuscripts, which had been written in the hands of ordinary people who had stored them in simple boxes alongside precious heirlooms.

    http://www.panamzone.net/net/en/our-mission/222-pedro-nawrot-musicologist-missionary.html
    Discovering the manuscripts in the Chiquitos and Moxos Missions, in the wild region of Santa Cruz (Bolivia), was a worldwide event. They were amazing collections. The largest, 5,500 pages of baroque music, written or arranged by the Natives living in those “Reducciones”, came from the old mission of Chiquitos, which, in that period, was part of the Province of Paraguay. Such collection includes over 40 polyphonic masses, operas, sonatas, instrumental music —music for what it is called the ‘liturgical year’— and other concertos for different situations. Apart from the beauty of those compositions, what is more interesting is that the Natives incorporated lyrics in their own original languages. That was the missionaries’ method: they did not impose the Spanish language; instead they predicated the new religion using the language of Native tribes. Another collection, over 4,000 pages of music, was found in the Moxos’s reducción, which was part of the Province of Peru. This collection, mostly sacred music, was also composed frequently by converted Indian-americans belonging to music groups. In fact, each mission included between 30 and 40 professional musicians playing during daily masses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP5P5ouDeso

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h55W899Zlyc

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  • From commenter Last Real Calvinist:
  • James N.Kenneth:

    Larry Auster had a rather prickly personality. Nevertheless his demise was a great loss. An even greater loss was the early death of Sam Francis.

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  • From The New Republic: Business Class Inside the strange, uniform politics of today’s MBA programs—and what it says about America's elites By JOHN BENJAMIN May 14, 2018 ... But in truth, MBA programs are not the open forums advertised in admissions brochures. Behind this façade, they are ideological institutions committed to a strict blend of...
  • @Enochian
    A simpler explanation might be that those axis countries which were economically powerful were able to fund effective militaries in ww2. They lost, but didn't lose the ingredients that had made them economically powerful in the first place, so eventually recovered.

    And an even simpler explanation would be that the Germans in their wisdom (RIP) elected a post-war government of Christian conservatives, one of whom happened to be an economic genius, while the hapless Brits elected rabid socialists who proceeded to nationalise everything in sight, and tax and regulate into paralysis everything else.

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  • Mankind’s IQ is 84-88. Becker May 2018 update. Belorussia has long been a blank spot on the world IQ maps (and when it was not so, its results were based on the average of Ukraine, Russia, and Lithuania's scores). However, in David Becker's latest world IQ update, there finally appeared a concrete estimate of Belorussian...
  • @E. Harding
    So this should be no surprise:
    https://mashable.com/2014/08/15/teen-from-belarus-wins-google-code-jam-on-his-first-try/#s4q6BaoR2aqQ
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Code_Jam

    Funny how there are no Indians on that list but lots and lots of Slavs

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  • From The New Republic: Business Class Inside the strange, uniform politics of today’s MBA programs—and what it says about America's elites By JOHN BENJAMIN May 14, 2018 ... But in truth, MBA programs are not the open forums advertised in admissions brochures. Behind this façade, they are ideological institutions committed to a strict blend of...
  • Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Congratulations, you've been bought off by Apple!

    And in the inimitable phraseology of our patron Ron: Ha, ha, ha,

    Lol!

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  • @Steve Sailer
    Look how nonwhite and nonmale Steve Jobs' inner circle was when Apple ran off the hottest streak in American business history since Henry Ford invented the moving assembly line.

    Oh wait ...

    By the way, I finally sent in my Macbook Air on the next to last day of my three years of Apple Care and they sent it back in two days and they had fixed five different things (new screen, new battery, new keyboard, etc.) for free. So, Apple Corp., you will happy to know you are back in my good graces. I'm sure your stock will soar on Monday on the news.

    Steve,

    Congratulations, you’ve been bought off by Apple!

    And in the inimitable phraseology of our patron Ron: Ha, ha, ha,

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  • Most of the discussion about inequality, equity, discrimination, etc. in our society is a (generally successful) attempt to skirt the real issue: we have created an economic system in which the wages and economic well-being of the productive classes have generally stagnated for decades. And, the reason for that is quite simple: we have an exploding non-productive, parasitic class, entrance to which is controlled by various artificial choke-points and gatekeepers; someone has to bear the increasingly large cost of the parasites.

    Since the middle of the twentieth century, productivity in agriculture and, especially, in industry has soared. Even in service industries, information technology should (though it seems not to) have raised productivity quite substantially.

    What has happened?

    Look at the ratio of non-teaching staff to teaching staff in the universities. Or in the public schools. Ask physicians how much time they spend filling out paperwork (I’ve talked to a number of physicians who say that to actually pay serious attention to their patients during the working day, they have to defer the paperwork to the evening, and therefore work till ten at night). Ask how many staff in a hospital are directly providing patient care. Consider how many people in “finance” are actually considering how to invest in productive businesses vs. how many are devising clever games to get around the tax laws and financial regulations.

    Even in normal businesses, how many people are involved in “compliance” with various government rules and regulations?

    The working members of our society are doing badly because, just by simple arithmetic, as the parasitic elite gets larger and larger, the per capita burden borne by each producer necessarily increases.

    And, pretty much no one in public life or in the public conversation — neither Donald Trump nor Bernie Sanders, neither the Tea Party nor the Occupy movement — are addressing that basic arithmetic fact.

    Yeah, we may have some lousy trade deals, and immigrants may be depressing the wage rates at the bottom of the wage scale. But, foreigners are not the root of the problem. The root is our own parasitic, non-productive elite.

    The original post is concerned with MBAs. How many of these MBAs will actually devote their careers to producing better goods and services for ordinary consumers? Sailer can answer that better than I, but I suspect the answer is not very many at all.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is how the economist Mancur Olson explained the economies of the defeated Axis powers rocketing past those of the triumphant Allies, many of whom had been wealthy empires.
    The Axis lost their knowitall commissars, checkers-of-regulations, and committees, and could just concentrate on building and producing stuff. The Allies not only kept their True Useless Eaters but saw them wax insufferable with apparent vindication.
    , @Ali Choudhury
    Most MBAs now aspire to work for a tech company which is working on transformational technology that will be highly useful to consumers such as Lyft, AirBnB, WhatsApp etc. So probably plenty of them. Being a financial courtier to the wealthy instead offers zero chance of retiring early compared to having equity in a hot start-up that is acquired or goes public.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "How many of these MBAs will actually devote their careers to producing better goods and services for ordinary consumers?"
     
    Not enough, but more (both absolutely and proportionally) than the number of JDs (lawyers), MSW ("social" workers), MPAs (public administrators), MFAs (fake PoMo "artists"), MEd's (fake educators), MAs (general lib arts), etc. who will actually devote their careers to producing better goods and services for ordinary consumers. Probably not more than STEM grads, though.

    So, yes, I agree with your comment. But why condemn the graduate category that is semi-productive while there are so many richer target environments?
    , @PennTothal
    Comment deserves a golden box.
    , @difference maker
    immigration does a lot more than just depress the bottom of the pay scale. as I'm sure you've connected the dots: the consequent massively inflated college enrollments, subsidized by the taxpayer and encouraged by the bank, not to mention the toll on infrastructure, first world culture, crowding, parks, schools, hospitals, roads, prisons. and there is limited food and limited real estate, fools and autists be damned. etc

    the rulers won't care. traffic is for the plebs. squalor, dysfunction and dilapidation
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  • Steve,

    This article can be pithily summarized by stating that the purpose of business schools are to produce or further refine a coterie of courtiers and enablers.

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    That is the role of the entire Ed Biz now.

    And for good reason: countless trillions of increased-productivity dollars have been skimmed off the top of the economy in the past half century, to rest in the control of rich families/corporations and their "charitable" foundations.

    Learning to be a lapdog in academe--either for the term of your degree studies or for keeps with tenure--involves learning how to enable the whims of and court the dollars of this hermetically sealed global blingocracy.

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  • On May 6, there was a big free speech march through Central London jointly organized by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance and Veterans Against Terrorism. Many of the big names in the British Alt Lite were attending, so I decided to show up myself. (I appear in the sidelines a few times in this video...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Thorfinnsson,

    I'm not sure but it's more than likely that I picked up the idea from Steve about "red state zillionaires squandering money on college football."

    But it's a real shame that some of these zillionaires don't raid their petty cash boxes to support some of our impoverished worthies. For starters as deserving candidates I begin with vdare, Chronicles, the Fleming Foundation, etc.

    George Soros is the personification of evil but give the devil his due: he walks the walk!

    Signal boosting is good, but think on a grand scale.

    Notice how Bezos bought the Washington Post.

    You buy a prestige media outlet, then you move the dissident scribblers into that publication. In light of the target you would logically probably buy something like Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc. asmoving Steve Sailer and the gang into a publication like WaPo might just cause it to collapse. Who knows though…worth a shot.

    Then you would obviously want to find Wild Goose 999, the world’s most effective alt right activist. Cultivate and fund more people like him. The Identity Evropa guys are decent as well.

    Black knights should also be heavily funded. A provocations program similar to Rachkovsky’s in order to discredit the left.

    I can think of many other things which should be done as well, but won’t because these comms aren’t secure.

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  • @Thorfinnsson
    I just thought the idea of Howard Hughes controlling the movie business instead of the Jews is funny. I don't disagree with you.

    Steve Sailer actually pointed out the problem of red state zillionaires squandering money on college football years ago.

    Thorfinnsson,

    I’m not sure but it’s more than likely that I picked up the idea from Steve about “red state zillionaires squandering money on college football.”

    But it’s a real shame that some of these zillionaires don’t raid their petty cash boxes to support some of our impoverished worthies. For starters as deserving candidates I begin with vdare, Chronicles, the Fleming Foundation, etc.

    George Soros is the personification of evil but give the devil his due: he walks the walk!

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    Signal boosting is good, but think on a grand scale.

    Notice how Bezos bought the Washington Post.

    You buy a prestige media outlet, then you move the dissident scribblers into that publication. In light of the target you would logically probably buy something like Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc. asmoving Steve Sailer and the gang into a publication like WaPo might just cause it to collapse. Who knows though...worth a shot.

    Then you would obviously want to find Wild Goose 999, the world's most effective alt right activist. Cultivate and fund more people like him. The Identity Evropa guys are decent as well.

    Black knights should also be heavily funded. A provocations program similar to Rachkovsky's in order to discredit the left.

    I can think of many other things which should be done as well, but won't because these comms aren't secure.
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  • I share the general sadness—which I think is particularly felt among us of the stone-kicking community—at the passing of the writer Tom Wolfe. Reviewing his novel I Am Charlotte Simmons, I prefaced my review with some general expressions of admiration, thus: How does this conservative look forward to a new Tom Wolfe novel? Let me...
  • “I don’t know how the future will rank Tom Wolfe as a novelist…”

    To the extent Wolfe is read 200 years from now, it will be as the closest thing the peak-American era had to an Anthony Trollope, a chronicler of societal upheaval. I don’t think they are really comparable, but I am a fan of Trollope.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Favorite Trollop novel is The Way We Live Now. Can’t stand those bishops and their wives novels especially Dorothea.

    The CofE clergy made a good living and it was a prestige job, but what a way of life.
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  • From the New York Times Opinion section: It’s Benjamin Netanyahu’s World Now By Anshel Pfeffer Anshel Pfeffer (@AnshelPfeffer) is a writer for Haaretz and the author of “Bibi: The Turbulent Life and Times of Benjamin Netanyahu.” May 18, 2018 Nearly every day it seems that another dream comes true for Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu:...
  • Steve:

    The only fly in the ointment, that is Bibi’s ointment, may be the Israeli judiciary which is implacably opposed to overt Israeli nationalism. Maybe Bibi’s future is that of some of his political confederates: imprisonment!

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  • On May 6, there was a big free speech march through Central London jointly organized by the Democratic Football Lads Alliance and Veterans Against Terrorism. Many of the big names in the British Alt Lite were attending, so I decided to show up myself. (I appear in the sidelines a few times in this video...
  • @Thorfinnsson
    The West Coast wasn't the Left Coast until recently. Los Angeles used to be the WASPiest major city in the United States, and Southern California produced much of the conservative movement. Richard Nixon was from Yorba Linda, and though Ronald Reagan was an Illinois farmboy he made his career in California. California voted Republican in every postwar Presidential election through 1988 other than LBJ's '64 landslide.

    The loss of California to American civilization is a tragedy and catastrophe paralleled by events such as the Islamic Conquest of Spain.

    And despite Hollywood being founded by the Jews (mostly), it didn't reach its present ideological orientation until the '60s. Lots the early studio moguls, maybe most, were Republicans.

    A more amusing alternate history scenario: what if Howard Hughes had concentrated all his resources on Hollywood, rather than branching out into real estate developing, gaming, and aerospace?

    Howard Hughes muscles out the Jews, leading to Texan control of Hollywood which ultimately ends up owned by a not-for-profit charity devoted to medical research. :)

    Thorfinnsson:

    I wouldn’t put any credence on Texan big shots contributing to the counter-culture revolution. That all ceased with the demise of H L Hunt; only to be replaced by the likes of T Boone Pickens who have squandered their philanthropies by supporting college football neanderthals instead of supporting the counter-revolution.

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    I just thought the idea of Howard Hughes controlling the movie business instead of the Jews is funny. I don't disagree with you.

    Steve Sailer actually pointed out the problem of red state zillionaires squandering money on college football years ago.
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  • Mankind’s IQ is 84-88. Becker May 2018 update. Belorussia has long been a blank spot on the world IQ maps (and when it was not so, its results were based on the average of Ukraine, Russia, and Lithuania's scores). However, in David Becker's latest world IQ update, there finally appeared a concrete estimate of Belorussian...
  • @Anatoly Karlin
    My belief is that this is mostly correct and things should have been done this way - indeed, it was largely done this way in Poland - but probably not politically realistic.

    1. Commies and left nationalists (there were no econ. right-wing nationalists of any political relevance) were flatly against foreign ownership of the crown jewels of the Soviet economy, and they controlled the Duma, back when the Duma still mattered.

    Pinochetianism could have taken care of that, but that was hardly realistic when Russia was reliant on loans from the West.

    2. The privatization of apartments was a success and really a good thing, minor quibbles about incentives regardless. It was the one thing affecting 90%+ of the population that tied the interests of ordinary Russians to the new regime, as opposed to the populists and Communist revanchists. It is very unlikely that Yeltsin would have hanged on to power without this.

    It also played an important role in softening the effects of the 1990s hyper-depression on living standards.

    Re-Belorussians. I suspect a banal factor in zmagarism (Belorussian version of svidomism) being less developed than Ukrainian svidomism is them simply being called White Russians. Can't exactly deny one is Russian when it's in your name. Also zmagarism is innately even more ridiculous than svidomism; while the svidomy at least like to think they are their own autochthonous civilization, Belorussian zmagars can only larp as the "real" descendants of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    My belief is that this is mostly correct and things should have been done this way – indeed, it was largely done this way in Poland – but probably not politically realistic.

    I get the idea that the length of time spent under communism was a real problem for post-Soviet countries compared to the Warsaw Pact satellites and the Baltics.

    Capitalism was extinguished in Russia in 1917. By 1991 there was more or less no one around in Russia who had extensive experience in capitalism, and certainly no one of any significance. The White Russian diaspora by 1991 probably no longer spoke much good Russian, and in any case the White Russian diaspora was so much smaller than Polish, Hungarian, Czech, etc. diasporas.

    The satellite and Baltic states meanwhile spent only 43 to 51 years under communism. Plenty of people around in 1991 who were around in 1945, even people who had fairly senior roles.

    Good example is the story that Mikhail Gorbachev supposedly asked how America “plans” the operation of so many restaurants. When your leader asks questions like that, you’re in trouble.

    1. Commies and left nationalists (there were no econ. right-wing nationalists of any political relevance) were flatly against foreign ownership of the crown jewels of the Soviet economy, and they controlled the Duma, back when the Duma still mattered.

    Even a minority foreign equity stake?

    Pinochetianism could have taken care of that, but that was hardly realistic when Russia was reliant on loans from the West.

    Why was Russia reliant on Western loans to begin with?

    2. The privatization of apartments was a success and really a good thing, minor quibbles about incentives regardless. It was the one thing affecting 90%+ of the population that tied the interests of ordinary Russians to the new regime, as opposed to the populists and Communist revanchists. It is very unlikely that Yeltsin would have hanged on to power without this.

    It also played an important role in softening the effects of the 1990s hyper-depression on living standards.

    I believe in the USSR rent was fixed at six percent of income. Perhaps someone here who lived in the USSR can confirm. It would not be that difficult to create a financial instrument which approximates debt service at that level, and it would have contributed to building the nascent taxing authoring of Russia.

    But there are worse things than converting state housing to private housing at a stroke, especially in Russia’s disastrous Wild 90s.

    Re-Belorussians. I suspect a banal factor in zmagarism (Belorussian version of svidomism) being less developed than Ukrainian svidomism is them simply being called White Russians. Can’t exactly deny one is Russian when it’s in your name. Also zmagarism is innately even more ridiculous than svidomism; while the svidomy at least like to think they are their own autochthonous civilization, Belorussian zmagars can only larp as the “real” descendants of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    If zmagars and svidomites are serious, they need an aesthetic better than LARPing as the SS in a Super Mario Galaxy t-shirt.

    I propose they adopt the aesthetic of a 50% member of their diaspora, Chicago’s legendary Da Coach, Iron Mike Ditka.

    Additionally, Mike Ditka could have resulted in the election of Hillary Clinton as President in 2008. There was an effort to draft Mike Ditka to run as a Republican for Senate in 2004 against Barack Obama, after it turned out the Republican nominee was a pervert who frequented sex clubs (great hardball by the Obama campaign). Mike Ditka, being by far the most beloved celebrity in Illinois, would have steamrolled Obama. How could a “community organizer” defeat the man who brought the Superbowl World Championship to Chicago and routinely appeared on local television drunk?

    In our official timeline, Ditka mused about it but decided not to throw his hat in the ring after engaging in some full-throated fag bashing. Remember, this was 2004 when Hillary Clinton was a staunch defender of the sanctity of marriage, which of course she has so much practical experience with. :)

    In our alternate history, Ditka enters the race. During the official debate with State Senator Obama, the Hall of Famer delivers a devastating pancake block to State Senator Obama that completely knocks him off the stage to wild applause from the adoring superfans. Ditka’s campaign ads feature highlight reels of the 1985 Chicago Bears, the Superbowl Shuffle, and attacks on people who put ketchup on their hot dogs. Ditka goes on to defeat State Senator Obama in a landslide, and Obama chooses to retire and becomes a community college teacher at the College of Lake County in Waukegan, Illinois.

    Senator Ditka advocates a muscular approach to foreign policy, because after all you don’t win on the grid iron by letting the other team knock your quarterback around. That’s one thing he learned as a tight end. With Obama out of the picture, Hillary wins the Presidency after the economy collapsed.

    After Russia’s brutal invasion and conquest of the Crimea (which belongs to UKRAINE!!!), President Hillary, advised by Senate Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Senator Ditka (R-Illinois), chooses to declare war on Russia.

    NATO troops eventually get bogged down in trench warfare around Volgograd, while Banderist-Svidomite auxilliaries initiate ethnic cleansing in the Donets Basin.

    And all made possible by DA COACH.

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    He's great at press conferences:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0XUWE0_J7Q
    , @Mr. Hack
    Wow, so many nice and masculine photos of a diaspora Svidomite. Looks like the therapy (#145) is really paying off nicely! Keep it up and maybe old Iron Mike will present you with a big discount at one of his steakhouses! :-)
    , @LatW

    If zmagars and svidomites are serious, they need an aesthetic better than LARPing as the SS in a Super Mario Galaxy t-shirt.
     
    The kid T-Shirt was a joke. They wear suits now (and Thor Steinar).

    I used to know a couple of zmagars. They approached me way back through a Baltic ancestral faith community and I hosted them, great people. I suppose they're very marginal in Belarus (btw, these were authoritarians, not pro-Western ones). Yea, they tend to believe they are Baltic. I just smiled and nodded. Called Alba Ruthenian in Latin. Quite a bit of blondism there, too. Some of them have beautiful, long straight hair. Not Finnish blond, but a tad darker.


    And all made possible by DA COACH.
     
    Hah! Let me add one of our own warriors - the Baltic Americans bring in our brother Dick Butkus.

    Trump's a fan I heard.

    "Let the bodies hit the floor! Let the bodies hit the floor!"

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  • Thugs actually hate classical music. From the L.A. Review of Books: From Theodore Gioia's website: "Hailing from a line of writers, Theodore has the dubious distinction of being the second best-known writer named Ted Gioia in his family." The Gioias are like the Therouxs of the 21st Century. MAY 17, 2018 AT THE CORNER of...
  • Theodore Dalrymple wrote a good piece on this phenomenon in 2009. He even used the Dracula/holy-water analogy that someone in this comment thread appropriated.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/when-hooligans-bach-down-10523.html

    Oh, and:

    “Steve, why do you think that Bach more the composer of civilization than anybody else? I would have said Mozart.”

    No.

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  • Steve,

    Yobs can’t stand classical music because it presents structure to the unstructed and order to the unordered.

    It’s like flashing a crucifix before Count Dracula!

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  • From WNYC, a public radio station in New York: There's nothing more wrong that trying to learn facts about immigrants. As everybody know, they are sacred. They are here to save our souls. To ask questions about which immigrants we should let in and which ones we should keep out is evil. You never saw...
  • Steve,

    For those of your readers benighted enough to live outside of NYC, let them be aware that radio station WNYC makes NPR appear to be a frothing-at-the-mouth right wing mouthpiece!

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  • In my continuing attempt to cover the Jordan Peterson Phenomenon without sitting through dozens of hours of videos, here's an appreciative article in Esquire by Wesley Yang: Yang is a fairly sizable journalistic talent whose career was sidetracked in recent years by some personal problems, which he says Peterson's lectures helped him get over. Much...
  • Tom Wolfe, dead at 87. RIP.

    The man I most wanted to meet but never did.

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    • Replies: @roo_ster
    Truly a loss.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Tom Wolfe, dead at 87. RIP.

    The man I most wanted to meet but never did.
     
    88.

    That leaves Gay Talese as the undisputed best-dressed author in America.
    , @guest
    That's why I showed up at iSteve today. Waiting for a tribute.
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  • America’s Republican politicians complain that “entitlements,” by which they mean pensions and medical care, are leading the country to bankruptcy even as they fatten the spending on the Pentagon, which now takes 12 percent of the overall budget. And it should be noted that while workers contribute to the social programs during all their years...
  • @bjondo
    I've read Cohen is a Russia expert and gives sensible analysis regarding events there. Don't know his views on holocaust, Occupied Palestine.

    His wife, Katrina vanden Heuvel, is part owner, publisher, editor of THE NATION.

    bjondo:

    I get the impression that Cohen tries to stay clear of anything outside his expertise, Russian history and geopolitics.

    Several times I’ve heard him fondly reminisce about being raised in Kentucky. So he may not be a complete Upper West Side liberal.

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  • @36 ulster
    One can admire Mr. Cohen's efforts to give us some perspective and--yes--sanity on the debate over Russia, and still view a Sovietist rag like THE NATION with contempt. It would seem that he is related to TN only by marriage. (Tip: Cohen usually appears for interviews on Tuesdays on THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW ( WABC 770AM) at 10pm EST. Always informative.)

    36 ulster:

    I too listen to the Batchelor radio show and his informative Cohen interviews. Many times Cohen has thanked Batchelor for offering him one of his few public venues.

    I like Batchelor despite the fact that many other times he presents or is comfortable with a hard Neocon line. I’ve often wondered if this has anything to do with his Persian background.

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  • The idea that the pomp and pageantry around the annual festivities commemorating Victory in the Great Patriotic War constitute a sort of foundational myth of the Russian state is a popular one. There are any number of articles on the Internet making this argument, mostly from the last few years, though come to think of...
  • @songbird
    I know about the promise, but it was a patently unrealistic one. A unified Arabia wasn't theirs to grant because they didn't control one. As far as I know, they had reason to pick Sharif Hussein and picked him, he was their favored guy, but he lost. If he expected them to fight for him, his expectations were unrealistic and he was unwise.


    Did you ever grow up in a neighborhood with a Latino gang presence?
     
    When and where I grew up, I knew only one Hispanic family. Nice people. The mother baked my sister a fancy cake for her birthday and floored it before my mother could give her any money. Maybe, you have more experience in these matters.

    Anyway, I appreciate your patience. For my part, I think I've learned a few things I wouldn't have learned otherwise.

    If he expected them to fight for him, his expectations were unrealistic and he was unwise.

    Big time! However, the point still stands that they financed and armed Ibn Saud – this is not a disputed point. I think the only Arabs that stayed loyal to the Ottomans were the Libyans. Most Muslims don’t want to admit this – but we are paying for the mistakes our Ummah made:

    Maybe, you have more experience in these matters.

    I grew up in a heavily Latino town during my middle-school/high school years. The vast majority of Latinos were cool people – I had some great friends from that background.

    But there were some guys that were very scary. This is the gang that operated throughout Riverside county:

    https://www.pe.com/2016/06/10/corona-gang-bust-nets-52-arrests-16-million-in-drugs-update-2/

    Anyway, I appreciate your patience. For my part, I think I’ve learned a few things I wouldn’t have learned otherwise.

    No problem – glad you had the patience to read it all. Forgiveness is sought if a gave insult in a moment of zeal – I’d like to start off Ramadan with a clean slate.

    I hope your family is likewise able to survive these spiritually dark times we are entering as they did before. May God grant you and your family honor and safety in this life and the next.

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    Thank you for those kind wishes, and I hope you know that they are returned.
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  • @Talha

    why are you guys ganging up on Talha?
     
    It's OK - there's a few serious questions/comments and the rest is juvenile stuff (par for the course really - it is the intranet) as long as it's generally civil - it's fine.

    Plus, I'm getting my licks in before Ramadan starts in a day or so. I'm going on lock down once that happens - I'll see you guys in a month - or not for a very long time. It depends - I'm seriously rethinking a lot of online time I've been putting in after consultation with my teachers.

    So we'll see.

    Peace.

    Happy Ramadan.

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    Thanks Greasy - may the blessings that shower down during this month cover you and your family.

    Peace.
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  • America’s Republican politicians complain that “entitlements,” by which they mean pensions and medical care, are leading the country to bankruptcy even as they fatten the spending on the Pentagon, which now takes 12 percent of the overall budget. And it should be noted that while workers contribute to the social programs during all their years...
  • @Thomm
    Wait, so this is a lefty Democrat blog now, where The Nation is cited favorably?

    Our men in uniform, particularly the grunts, make sacrifices that the others don't make. Sure, some officers are corrupt and the military manages to manufacture demand for its expensive products, but this article goes way too far.

    Thomm:

    I usually share your disdain for The Nation magazine. But in the vein of stopped clock correctness twice a day even it can sometimes be correct, witness its editor Steve Cohen’s completely admirable efforts to lend sanity and substance to America’s Russian foreign policy!

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    One can admire Mr. Cohen's efforts to give us some perspective and--yes--sanity on the debate over Russia, and still view a Sovietist rag like THE NATION with contempt. It would seem that he is related to TN only by marriage. (Tip: Cohen usually appears for interviews on Tuesdays on THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW ( WABC 770AM) at 10pm EST. Always informative.)
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    AGEED

    I have never read The Nation nor will I, I'm pretty sure. Even so, when you're right you're right. I disagree with Thomm on comment #1. As for the author, Mr. Giraldi, I suppose he could have stuck in "The Nation, that cntrl-left rag, even rightly stated ... blah, blah...", if it makes us feel better (yes, it might ;-}
    , @bjondo
    I've read Cohen is a Russia expert and gives sensible analysis regarding events there. Don't know his views on holocaust, Occupied Palestine.

    His wife, Katrina vanden Heuvel, is part owner, publisher, editor of THE NATION.

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  • Celebrity intellectual Jordan Peterson has written a blog post, “’On the So-Called ‘Jewish Question’,” the inner quotes indicating he doesn’t think this is a real issue—something that only “reactionary conspiracy theorists” would propose. His blog includes a link to Nathan Cofnas’s criticism of The Culture of Critique. No links to my replies—which may provide a...
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    @Dan Hayes
    CBTerry,

    Peterson's disturbing performance in the video clip is truly unhinged.

    If he acted like this in the NYC subway system the gendarmes would carry him off to Bellevue for observation.

    This makes heavyweight boxer Oliver McCall’s breaking down in tears during the second round rematch fight with Lewis (he KO’d Lewis in previous fight) seem downright normal.

    I’ve only watched a few videos of Peterson but I’ve never seen him smile, light-heartedly joke, be witty or clever, etc.

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  • @CBTerry
    "When Peterson begins to weep for our people, we can be assured he is a champion of truth."

    The last thing I want to see is more of Peterson weeping.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBm0ZUfe7I

    CBTerry,

    Peterson’s disturbing performance in the video clip is truly unhinged.

    If he acted like this in the NYC subway system the gendarmes would carry him off to Bellevue for observation.

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    This makes heavyweight boxer Oliver McCall’s breaking down in tears during the second round rematch fight with Lewis (he KO’d Lewis in previous fight) seem downright normal.

    I’ve only watched a few videos of Peterson but I’ve never seen him smile, light-heartedly joke, be witty or clever, etc.
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  • There are some pretty strange ideas floating around that Russia is obligated to help Syria/Iran in their decades-long squabbles with Israel, and that Putin is "betraying his people" by not doing so. Well, last time I checked, Putin is President of Russians, not Syrians/Iranians. Indeed, the term "сирийские братушки" ("Syrian brothers") has long been an...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Talha,

    Usually your demeanor is less vituperative than displayed in this post. Perhaps that's why you failed to incorporate your usual "Peace" postscript?

    But anyway I almost invariably find your postings very informative from a viewpoint I would not otherwise encounter.

    Hey Dan,

    The person I’m bantering with considers my “Peace” sign off to be evidence of taqiyyah so I’m avoiding its use with him.

    Vituperative, yes it would seem so – I am human. :)

    He did call our women fat and ugly…

    I thank you very much for taking the time to read my (often lengthy) posts.

    Peace.

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  • @Talha

    they came out of their own volition
     
    Yeah - and you have no border controls? I mean, I'm sure some people want to come into my house to grab my stuff, which is why I lock the doors and windows. Again, poor excuse.

    pathological altruism (a defect that seems to predominantly affect Europeans
     
    Man - I really wish that was on display during WW2 - you guys could have seriously used some of that pathological altruism then - let me tell ya! Lot of pathology on display though.

    Aside from terrorists, your ilk mostly mostly produces drug dealers, rapists, welfare recipients, domestic abusers and violent criminals.
     
    Yeah man, when Muslims go off track from religion - they seem to go whole hog, don't they? My suggestion is to deport these violators to places that will lock that crap down with some good old fashioned Shariah. Again, why are you guys coddling these folks - you know we would never accept non-Muslims behaving like this in our lands.

    their men find it necessary to hide them from public sight
     
    No - we don't like other men staring at our women because we still have a sense of ghayrah (which you guys used to have - ie. we aren't cucks). You could learn something from us. Why do like men staring at your females? Especially if they are attractive?
    "For his forthcoming book, 'Tell Me What You Want: The Science of Sexual Desire and How It Can Help Improve Your Sex Life,' Lehmiller surveyed thousands of Americans and found that 58% of men and about a third of women had fantasized about cuckolding."
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/health/cuckolding-sex-kerner/index.html

    If that is right, that's a majority chief - you guys are in trouble.


    is a complete non sequitur.
     
    Why? If you needed cheap third world labor after WW2 - why didn't you allow Buddhists from Vietnam to come in?

    it appears that you live in the US of A.
     
    I do - I didn't really have a choice in the matter since I was 6 when my father moved us here. I ended up marrying a White convert. She seems to have some funny idea that she has a right to be here - women can be so silly. Anyway, I like living in the US - it's a great place to be. I get along great with my neighbors, my boss has said he doesn't know what he'd do without me and our mayor just sent me and my wife a letter recently asking us to extend our memberships on our city's respective advisory boards. So, I'm living my life doing my part to make my little area of the US benefit just as I have benefited from her.

    Now, my wife and I have drafted plans for a few places in the Muslim world we would move to in case things get difficult in the US or I am formally stripped of citizenship and asked to leave. Egypt, Jordan and UAE (even Madinah) are all in the running. In fact, if I see my kids going off track from their religion, I will also consider moving. As of now, they are doing well; memorizing Qur'an coming with me to our weekly dhikr gatherings, have a respect and regard for our scholars, etc. so alhamdulillah.

    I have no problems moving back to the Muslim world; my teachers have already helped me prioritize material objectives well below the more important ones.

    Talha,

    Usually your demeanor is less vituperative than displayed in this post. Perhaps that’s why you failed to incorporate your usual “Peace” postscript?

    But anyway I almost invariably find your postings very informative from a viewpoint I would not otherwise encounter.

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    Hey Dan,

    The person I’m bantering with considers my “Peace” sign off to be evidence of taqiyyah so I’m avoiding its use with him.

    Vituperative, yes it would seem so - I am human. :)

    He did call our women fat and ugly...

    I thank you very much for taking the time to read my (often lengthy) posts.

    Peace.

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  • From Slate: Jeff Sessions Is Scapegoating the ACLU for Chicago’s Murder Rate Spike By JOHN RAPPAPORT MAY 11, 20184:45 PM In 2016, the number of homicides in Chicago jumped by 58 percent year over year. Why? Most social scientists have struggled to reach any firm conclusions. But in a speech on Tuesday in Gatlinburg, Tennessee,...
  • @Harry Baldwin
    Agree. Also experienced police officers can spot various indications that someone is carrying a gun. Here's a few from a list on the internet:

    Sweater and Jacket Zipper Line
    Whenever you zip up your jacket or a sweater, note the relative straightness of that zipper line. If you note it bends and points towards your concealed carry handgun, that's a hint you're carrying. Most people won't notice but someone trained to pick up on these things will definitely be watching.

    Clothes Don't Match The Season
    Being a concealed carrier doesn't automatically make us fashion experts. In most cases, far from it. But it is good to maintain a rough idea of the type of clothing everyone else is wearing to ensure we don't stick out. Wearing heavy woolen sweaters and jackets in the dead of summer definitely makes a person stick out like a sore thumb.

    Security Check
    Gun violators in particular will typically touch and/or adjust the weapons concealed on their bodies numerous times during the day. This may be a gentle and difficult to observe bump with the elbow, wrist or hand. On rare occasions, it could be a distinct grasping of the weapon as they adjust it. Violators often make this gesture when getting out of a chair or a car or when walking up a flight of stairs or high curb.

    Walk Differently

    The way a person walks reveals a lot about him or her. There's a number of “give-aways” to a person wearing a concealed carry handgun in just the way they walk. Rigid upper body movements. One hip stays put while the other extends the gait. One arm doesn't swing like the other. Concealed carriers tend to reduce the length of their walk. This is a natural reaction to not wanting to extend out too far on the side where the holster is situated so that the gun may show or protrude. They also tend to reflexively brace their arm towards the gun to ensure it doesn't slip out or fall out.

    Running – The Biggest Give-Away
    When crossing a busy street or just getting out of the rain, a concealed carrier will always tend to brace the side his gun is situated on. So if you see someone running to catch the cross-walk sign and he's got an arm braced against his body tightly, that's a dead giveaway he's carrying something he doesn't want to drop.
     

    Thanks for the information. It could be useful for store clerks and people who live in bad neighborhoods.

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  • Ron Unz, looks like we’re back to “my comment didn’t show up as pending moderation after I made it” status, in case you didn’t know already.

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  • It’s another Trump affair -- this time without the allegations of sexual harassment (and worse), the charges and counter-charges, the lawsuits, and all the rest. So it hasn’t gotten the sort of headlines that Stormy Daniels has garnered, but when it comes to influence, American foreign policy, and issues of peace and war, it couldn’t...
  • If only 1% of what is being reported here is true (and I do regard it to be true), it is an utterly devastating account of the failure of our government not only to resist foreign influences but to actively encourage them.

    And in particular it is a shame how the warped egotistical tendencies of Trump have been manipulated by foreign influences. This is not the way our Republic should operate.

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  • My experience was that I enjoyed Spanish Class in second and third grade, but then I didn't take Spanish again until 9th and 10th grade, by which point I'd forgotten what little Spanish I'd learned as a child and had somehow developed a hopelessly extreme americano accent: I sounded like W.C. Fields trying to speak...
  • Karl says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Barnard:

    The sole purpose of students education in Spanish is to ensure a malleable voting-class for their political overlords!

    52 Don Hayes > The sole purpose of students education in Spanish

    it’s worthwhile to learn Spanish if you want to retire to Ecuador ( a great selection for any average Core White American who wants to shack up with a chicka aged 24) or if you want to socialize with the janitors of Baltimore

    if you learn 250 words of Hebrew, you will be able to swim amongst the crowd that makes world-changing decisions 4-5 times a year

    TelAviv has an efficient airport….. you could do both. TelAviv’s best restaurants are in Silicon Valley, California

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    But most Israelis, especially important ones, speak English.
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  • @Barnard
    The push in my area has been to have a Spanish immersion elementary school where the students are only taught in Spanish. I don't think they are far enough into to know how it will impact the students ability to learn other subjects as they get into high school and college though. How well the students will retain the Spanish skills after returning to classes conducted in English is also unknown. I don't see what the long term benefits are for the average person and wonder if part of it is social conditioning to get Spanish accepted as an offical language of the United States at some point.

    Barnard:

    The sole purpose of students education in Spanish is to ensure a malleable voting-class for their political overlords!

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    52 Don Hayes > The sole purpose of students education in Spanish


    it's worthwhile to learn Spanish if you want to retire to Ecuador ( a great selection for any average Core White American who wants to shack up with a chicka aged 24) or if you want to socialize with the janitors of Baltimore

    if you learn 250 words of Hebrew, you will be able to swim amongst the crowd that makes world-changing decisions 4-5 times a year

    TelAviv has an efficient airport..... you could do both. TelAviv's best restaurants are in Silicon Valley, California
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  • Now in Taki's Magazine, my book review of Jonathan Weisman's (((Semitism))): Read the
  • @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz brings up his meritocracy article now and then but it has no lasting impact even here at unz.com. Characters like “Lot” and “Jack D.” will keep resurrecting the meme of IQ=115 and fat Jewish tails.
     
    Yes, this "Lot" character is particularly dishonest, since this must be at least the third or fourth time I've been forced to involve myself in the comment-threads to address his serious misinformation. Considering that this is my own website, I not unreasonably lost my temper and ridiculed him upthread.

    Now when someone is so totally dishonest that they keep on repeating 2+2=7 over and over again, we can reasonably assume that his dishonesty may extend into lots of other matters as well. It's pretty obvious that the most likely reason someone would so endlessly dissimulate about the Jewish ability distribution is because he's a fanatic Jewish-activist type. So when someone proven dishonest who acts like a fanatic Jewish-activist then declares that he was raised as a Christian and has minimal ties to the Jewish community, I'm naturally more than a little skeptical.

    Certainly, I could be mistaken. And perhaps "Whiskey" really is Scots-Irish and is correct in claiming that Hollywood is totally controlled by a WASP mafia...

    On a somewhat related matter, I'm pleased to announce that I've now added the Kevin MacDonald's three volumes to my "Controversial" Books collection, so you can now conveniently read the target of all the denunciations, and decide for yourself:

    http://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__a-people-that-shall-dwell-alone/

    http://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__separation-and-its-discontents/

    http://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__the-culture-of-critique/

    Mr Unz,

    Your inclusion of MacDonald’s trilogy to your “Controversial” Books collection is sure to reward you with the SPLC’s undying and unalterable enmity! Actually the way the SPLC operates perhaps the appellation “enmity” should more properly be replaced with “hatred”.

    Thanks for your efforts. It’s really amazing what one dedicated individual (that’s you!) can achieve.

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  • From the New York Times: I have to confess that I'm not familiar with the work of most of these people, except for the older ones like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Christina Hoff Sommers who I am familiar with from the old days of text, and I have read most of Douglas Murray's book The...
  • I realize it’s very bad form, but I’ll duplicate a comment I just left a couple of hours ago on *exactly* this same article that some commenter had asked had me about…

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    Ha, ha, ha… Offhand it looks like something from this week’s forthcoming NYT Magazine, which I always prefer to read in hard-copy. But I glanced over it, and found it very, very amusing.

    I was at least somewhat familiar with most of the names, and basically all the “Renegade Intellectuals of the Dark Web” described seem like semi-establishment Neocons. It’s a little like portraying Marco Rubio as a populist-insurgent Republican.

    The author, Bari Weiss, is some WSJ Neocon who recently moved over to the NYT, and she’s presumably trying to rebrand some of her fellow Neocons as radical-rightists, thus giving them more appeal to the Daily Stormer crowd. Also, that way future conservative debates can include everyone from Neocon A to Neocon Z.

    As an example, one of the most prominent figures is some YouTube psychology celebrity named Jordan Peterson, who first came to my attention when David Brooks described him as perhaps the most important intellectual in America or something like that. I guess that makes Brooks a “renegade intellectual” himself.

    I think their “darkest” belief is that there might possibly exist *some* biological differences between men and women. Horrors! And although he’s some sort of psych professor, Peterson is so remarkably ignorant of IQ issues that his recent thing is explaining that the reason Jews control Wall Street, Hollywood, and the US government is because of their astonishing brilliance. I recently needed to jump into a very long comment-thread to set some facts straight:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sailer-on-semitism-by-jonathan-weisman/#comment-2314406

    Here’s the way to think about it. Neocon Robert Kagan was a leading foreign policy figure in the George W. Bush Administration. Then when Obama swept in to totally reverse all Bush’s failed policies, a leading figure ended up being Neocon Victoria Nuland…Kagan’s *wife*.

    Ha, ha, ha…

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    I don't disagree about Jordan Peterson on whether he understands or, if he does, discusses, IQ issues. (And yes, I read that whole thread you mention under iSteve, BTW) As a spokesman of sorts against modern feminism. I think he's the cat's meow* though.

    I thought I'd be the last guy to ever watch an hour and 40 minute video of two intellectuals sitting at a table talking, but Peterson's discussion (after about 30 min. of talking about art and crap) with Camille Paglia had so much truth coming out, that I enjoyed it a good bit.

    Again I have, no argument about who should be officially on the "dark" side, but I recommend young men listen to Jordan Peterson, along with reading Christina Hoff Sommers.


    * Speaking of cats, I really liked your Neocon A to Neocon Z bit, it's kind of Dr. Suess-like.
    , @Luke Lea
    "Peterson is so remarkably ignorant of IQ issues . . ."

    Actually he is not. I've listened to some of his psychology lectures on the subject. He may be downplaying the nepotistic/ethnocentric angle, but that is a different issue.
    , @Lot
    You didn't set any facts straight in that comment, you made yourself look bad by citing Wordsum, which has a ceiling and a sample problem as an IQ test, isn't very accurate with only 10 vocabulary questions, together with your usual thick servings of ad hominem and countersemitism. Really it just needed some 9-11 Truth in there.

    Also as usual, you went after a strawman of "Jewish numbers at elite colleges and media is explained entirely by their IQ." I'd say that is the single most important factor, but still only one of many.
    , @Anonymous
    FWIW, I personally don't think it's necessarily "bad form", let alone very bad form, to duplicate comments on different threads. No one has the time or the patience to read through every single comment thread on the internet, so if you took the time and effort to compose a valuable comment on an issue in one forum I think it should be ok to repost it elsewhere.
    , @Dave Pinsen

    The author, Bari Weiss, is some WSJ Neocon who recently moved over to the NYT, and she’s presumably trying to rebrand some of her fellow Neocons as radical-rightists, thus giving them more appeal to the Daily Stormer crowd.
     
    I'm no fan of young Miss Barium, but you're being a bit too cynical there. She's not the one who's rebranded them as radical-rightists, the current mainstream left has. Brett Weinstein, for example, was forced out of a tenured professorship by a mob. Similarly, Claire Lehmann gets called a fascist. And so on.

    I suppose you're right that, if Weiss wanted to be a free speech hero, she could have gone to bat for the folks you give a platform to here; her goals are narrower than that, but they're broader than your Neocon rehabilitation speculation.
    , @Dieter Kief
    Hail to Michael Jackson - let's all be BAD now - I too have said this already:

    - Jordan B. Peterson defends The Bell Curve and even says he's read it twice!

    And I do think he was the single most important defender against gender-linguistics, whereas Pinker (and lots of others who did know better) for example preferred - "rather not to" (fight those dumb and repressive new pronown-norms and all that).
    , @anonymous
    The proof that Peterson and the rest are controlled opposition, is the fact that they are getting so much publicity. You don't get interviewed on the BBC or 60 Minutes if you are actually seen as a threat to the elites.
    , @roo_ster
    Cross-Posting: Scourge of the Web!

    Or not. Your website. Still liking the comment system better than any other. Once I learned to use the features.
    , @FKA Max
    Vox Day featured your comment on his blog, Mr. Unz:

    Neoconnery 2.0

    Ron Unz reacts to The New York Times's announcement of its list of approved Fake Opposition members. He is, to put it mildly, unimpressed.
    [...]
    The eyes, they roll. Even Jonah Goldberg, a card-carrying member of both NeverTrump and the previous Fake Opposition set, sees that this is nothing more than rehashed neoconnery:
     
    - http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/05/neoconnery-20.html

    Here is his recent full Alex Jones interview:

    Vox Day Exposes The Left’s Plan To Take Control Of The Nationalist Movement FULL INTERVIEW


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nSVMZ7MYlU

    I don't know if this comment I posted a few weeks ago reached you?

    Following an absolutely outstanding refutation by Vox Day of Jordan B. Peterson.

    To the moderators: Could you please forward this piece/blog post to Mr. Unz to be considered for publication as a featured article on the Unz Review, because I know Mr. Unz thinks, too, that Jordan Peterson does not know what he is talking about
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#comment-2306008

    The title "The myth of Jordan Peterson’s integrity" plus the great thumbnail https://cdn.idka.com/8a86ed25-0896-46f6-98e2-9d99584e2865 could translate into some nice web traffic and maybe you could attach your "The Myth of American Meritocracy" article to it, so that that piece gets some additional attention, or maybe just add "The Myth of American Meritocracy" to the "Newsworthy / Promoted Again by Current Events" section http://www.unz.com/hotnews/ ?

    Maybe Vox Day's Youtube channel could also be added to the Unz Review video section? I think he has been posting almost daily/more regularly there, lately:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGJNdaSwFeP3pLd1MhN0dRg/videos

    Voxday Darkstream 05.07.2018 The Core Purpose of Jordan Peterson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkBY8eLBp-0

    Thank you very much.

    P.s. for other readers/commenters: Here is Mr. Unz's original post source link: http://www.unz.com/announcement/featuring-controversial-books/#comment-2321994

    P.p.s.:

    Victoria "F**k the EU" Nuland:

    "F**k the EU" - US diplomat embarrassed after undiplomatic language caught on tape

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdygnTrrGVI
    , @gda
    "Peterson is so remarkably ignorant of IQ issues"

    No he isn't. Your flyby looks kind of silly.

    "I recently needed to jump into a very long comment-thread to set some facts straight"

    Not sure we accept someone who has proffered some IQ theories that have been exposed as nonsense as an expert commenter.
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  • So Putin has just entered his fourth and almost certainly last term. Where to now? Putin has a vast, legitimate mandate to leave his final imprint on Russia, but what precisely that involves is still just a black box - as I repeatedly noted during my Russia elections coverage, Putin did not even bother with...
  • @RadicalCenter
    Given Reagan's obvious senility, Clinton's distraction with philandering and possible drug use, Obama's simply mediocre intellect and ignorance, and Trump's about-faces and reckless comments, I'm not sure that we Americans are in a position to claim high presidential standards recently.

    The elder Bush was OK.

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  • [***MISMATCH ERRORS***: Greek = 1] [***MISMATCH ERRORS***: Greek = 1] "Immigration," said to me a distinguished social worker and idealist, "is a wind that blows democratic ideas throughout the world. In a Siberian hut from which four sons had gone forth to America to seek their fortune, I saw tacked up a portrait of Lincoln...
  • Because of my heritage I was naturally attracted to The Celtic Irish chapter.

    I found the author’s perceptive treatment of the Irish broadly sympathetic and even endearing in pointing out both their qualities as well as their deficiencies (“warts and all”)!

    Looking forward to reading the rest of the book. I strongly suspect and expect that the other ethnic groups will likewise be treated with the selfsame humane objectivity.

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    I'm afraid you're wrong. This is trash.
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  • For an explanation of concentric loyalties vs. leapfrogging loyalties, see here.
  • He’s leaving the way he always operated, in this case authoring a vengeful call to arms against Trump and more importantly against the remaining vestiges of America.

    A man who reveled in the self-appellation of being a patriot but in reality his patriotism was always in service to the powers-that-be.

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  • It is Donald Trump's duty to defend the office of the President and the right of the American people to choose their own leaders through democratic elections. Both of those institutions are currently under attack, and there is a real danger that the republican system of government, which we have enjoyed for over 200 years,...
  • Mike:

    A comment on the deep intelligence state from one who knows, Sen Chuck Schumer:

    “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community – they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

    Of course the deep state intelligence community is just one part of the phalanx of deep state forces allied against and for the eventful downfall and obliteration of Trump. The obliteration has both political (impeachment) and even physical (incarceration) components.

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  • In the New York Times: The Future of the American Left By David Brooks Opinion Columnist ... I would disagree with this [Bernie Sanders] agenda on pragmatic policy grounds, but at least it would be humane. It’s a positive, universalist agenda that aims at social solidarity and national cohesion — we’re all in this together....
  • @Ivy
    Black economic success should increase upon reduced competition from immigrants. That success would translate on the margin into more employed, more income and tax revenues, lower social benefit costs, greater household formation, more community stability and less crime. Okay, that is a lot to pack into a burgeoning trend, but consider how that could add to a Black Magic Bullet aimed at the Dems.

    A Kanye tweet here, a few supporting tweets or other communiqués elsewhere and the Blac Bloc could head toward no longer being the sure thing, take-for-granted voting bloc, at least on the male, eligible voter side as Steve mentioned recently. Greater economic stability and tangible human development in the community rather than more of the same Sharptonesque shakedowns would be a welcome relief.

    Black economic success should increase upon reduced competition from immigrants. That success would translate on the margin into more employed, more income and tax revenues, lower social benefit costs, greater household formation, more community stability and less crime. Okay, that is a lot to pack into a burgeoning trend, but consider how that could add to a Black Magic Bullet aimed at the Dems.

    A Kanye tweet here, a few supporting tweets or other communiqués elsewhere and the Blac Bloc could head toward no longer being the sure thing, take-for-granted voting bloc, at least on the male, eligible voter side as Steve mentioned recently.

    Anti-immigration activists are always saying blacks logically *should* oppose immigration for these sorts of reasons, but I’ve never thought the argument held water.

    My impression is that today’s black middle class is almost entirely a creation of government jobs and government pressure on the private sector like Affirmative Action.

    Immigrants, at least first generation ones, rarely get government jobs, and they are also rarely have the white-color positions at big corporations heavily influenced by Affirmative Action. So they’re not really competing with middle-class blacks.

    Meanwhile, as the population grows due to immigration, more government jobs become necessary and big corporations sell more products. So I’d guess that middle-class blacks in those sectors generally benefit from immigration.

    I doubt whether poor blacks see much of an impact one way or the other. Maybe they’re pushed out of South-Central or Bed-Stuy to somewhere else, but those were pretty terrible places to live anyway. And since not too many of them have jobs, they’re not really competing with immigrants.

    Anyway, to the extent that black politicians listen to anyone except big corporate donors, it’s probably the black middle class rather than totally disorganized poor blacks. So there’s really no significant black constituency for an anti-immigration position.

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    " So there’s really no significant black constituency for an anti-immigration position."

    They have to go back?
    , @Lot

    blacks logically *should* oppose immigration for these sorts of reasons
     
    Polls show blacks do oppose mass immigration, and labor market data shows they suffer the most from it. As with whites, black politicians generally don't care, and until they start losing primaries that will remain the case. Chicago seems to be the only city with a critical mass of black anti-immigration activism. New York has plenty of blacks too, but the elite blacks there are overwhelmingly of immigrant origin themselves, while the largest origin for blacks in Chicago is Mississippi, as the great migration north largely followed a due north path.
    , @kimchilover
    That is so jaw-droppingly depressing. But, God help us all, you are probably right.
    , @Anonymous
    Also right wing whites like Steve want to bring about the demise of the black middle class by junking affirmative action.
    , @Ivy
    Oh, I expect that all those sinecure positions will be continuing and that the current holders will do whatever they can to preserve that income. My focus is more regarding the lower end jobs (food service, transportation, and even some manufacturing given the proximity of South Central to the I-5 corridor and South Bay industrial areas), and how those have changed over the years (although no traction in the high tech businesses). Los Angeles provides a great case study via the demographic work of William Frey and the UCLA economic forecast people. (Eastern cities will have their own patterns of dysfunction and displacement like Chicago out to Milwaukee or downstate or Iowa).

    Hispanics undercut blacks and pushed them out of South Central (jobs, gangs, other influences) to the Inland Empire (esp. San Bernardino) and the high desert (e.g., Barstow and Victorville). Similar influences encouraged poor whites to move out of LA to lower cost states (NV, AZ, OR for example). Not much of a typical constituency in the black community in any event, and not much money to extract for campaign contributions, but enough evidence of real or potential stability to reduce the more troubling aspects of that community.

    I'd expect Trump and others in the RNC to scrap for whatever voted they can get and to exploit any publicity or media spectacle events to influence and jump-start some trends. Overall, that hope for some change in fortunes for blacks is a bit of a Unicorn but given the potential to tweak the Dems and to address the immigrant action issues among the Trump base while maybe helping cities seems very enticing and even a type of low-hanging fruit.

    , @Anonymous
    It 's more elemental than that.
    It's 'stick it to whitey' time.
    , @Jake
    Correct. Advocates of Big Government (whether for Leftist Welfare or Imperialist Adventuring, and they do go together) give blacks major payoffs of Government jobs (including academia). Blacks know that. so they back the system that gave the jobs.

    Plus, blacks know that virtually all of the stuff they are given by the system comes at the expense of white Gentiles, and they love that.
    , @Yak-15
    There is a lot of truth to this statement but it’s incomplete and lacks the perspective of someone seeing current progress in higher-end careers. Many immigrants coming to America are immigrants as high skill/IQ (relatively) from Africa. They are increasingly taking the slots of African Americans.

    I work in a math-oriented career field and have flirted with pursuing advanced degrees. I cannot quantify the relationship exactly, but about half the blacks I meet (rare they are) have foreign names.

    This is pressing on blacks at the higher ends and will manifest itself more concretely as we experience more elite black immigration from west Africa.

    Mid-level blacks are not astute to this reality, yet. But they will get it soon enough. The slave-merchants are taking the jobs of the slaves.
    , @International Jew
    Those government jobs are going to dry up wherever blacks become outnumbered by Hispanics (those who can vote, anyway). And as English-Spanish bilingualism becomes a requirement in more and more places, that's going to shut out yet more blacks (except the very smartest ones).

    But as convinced as I am that immigration is bad for the blacks, I'm even surer that they're too angry and stupid to act on it at the polls.

    And maybe that's a good thing. If the GOP ever sees real potential in the black vote, we'll have both parties pandering to the anti-law-enforcement agenda, on Section 8, and on affirmative action.

    I'm for the GOP trying to win with the Sailer strategy. We'll get the votes of those blacks who care about the common interests of Americans. The others can go to hell.

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  • I worked with and conducted liaison with The Israel Defense Force (IDF) for many years. This activity occurred as part of my regular duties as a US Army officer and later as a civilian executive of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Since my retirement from US government service I have had many business or religious...
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    Many commentators here do not seem to appreciate that Pat Lang’s piece is meant to provide us with dispassionate and informed analysis of the strengths (not many) and weaknesses (a whole helluva lot) of the IDF ground forces. The piece is *not* meant to be read as offering a moral critique or justification of the IDF actions it details; these actions, right or wrong (and Lang clearly thinks they are very wrong), are offered by Lang as *evidence* in support of his analytic claims about the general quality of the IDF’s discipline and preparedness. It is fairly obvious, for anybody who is able to read between the lines (as at least a few commentators have done), that Lang has a very low opinion indeed of the IDF ground
    forces. He believes they will be routed easily in any confrontation with an actual army–be it Hezbollah, the SAA, or any one of Iran’s many state/military-allied special forces units. This is very important knowledge for us to have, as it helps us understand the still unfolding crisis and to anticipate the shape any conflict between Israel and Syria/Hezbollah/Iran is likely, and unlikely, to take. Lang provides a real service in doing this, and it is a service that not many people alive in the US today are able to provide. That Lang ceased receiving major network interview requests to discuss ME politics and military conflicts more than a decade ago should tell you all you need to know about the accuracy of his views and how dangerous their airing has been judged to be for the AngloZionist project.

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    Many commentators here do not seem to appreciate that Pat Lang’s piece is meant to provide us with dispassionate and informed analysis of the strengths (not many) and weaknesses (a whole helluva lot) of the IDF ground forces.
     
    Well, that may have been the intent, but a lot of it sounds like apologetics for the Zionist leadership, and some of us are not buying it and some are using it as an opportunity to highlight defects in Zionist philosophy and to condemn much that's condemnable and there is plenty of that.
    , @j
    I don't know how to take Lang's pessimism about the IDF ground forces fighting capability. The IDF did fight against the Syrian army when suffering a surprise attack, and it won in two-three days. It fought against the British-led Jordanian army, and won. It also fought against the Hizballah and occupied South Lebanese territory (It was not easy because the Hizballah - the Party of God - had Russian RPGs and strong bunkers, but in one or two weeks they were vanquished). One wonders about the strength of Lang's arguments.

    The latest war the Iranians fought was against Saddam Hussein, and lasted seven years. How effective were Saddam's forces? Not much, I gather, since it was cakewalk for the American expeditionary forces to take Baghdad.

    The latest confrontation was with Hamas of Gaza. They bused thousands of juveniles to the frontier and tried to pass the cattle fence of the border and invade in mass Israel. The IDF positioned seven sharpshooters on an embankment. The outcome: the fanatical would-be martyrs retired defeated. Not one even reached the fence. Our losses: none.

    Next time we shall send AI driven robots.

    , @RobinG
    ".... Pat Lang’s piece is meant to provide us with dispassionate and informed analysis....."

    This is exactly where it fails. Lang tells us that the latest killings in Gaza are unintended [and unwanted] consequences of a "young" IDF, and we're not buying it.

    The sniper killings are the anticipated and accepted [and approved -- have any of these IDF snipers suffered any consequences??] result of cynical and ruthless official government policy.

    , @prusmc
    For many years I was a great supporter of Israel and admired their IDF. Forgetting the moral and political sides of the equation, I now think the efficacy of their armed forces may be over-rated. Let's say they have a razor-sharp air force and a sound missile defense and offensive capability. The Navy is at most a Coast Guard (all that is needed) with a few missile launching submarines. The struggle for independence was the only protracted active hostility they were involved in and much of that was mopping up and anti-partisan action.
    The Sinai campaign of 1956 was short duration mobile warfare marked by effective combined operation. In 1967 surprise attack and great coordinated fire and maneuver carried the day. The Yom Kipper war was a bit close at first but again superior training material and morale proved decisive. Operation Cast Lead is a question mark. Initially, it appears that the IDF bested Hezbollah. At what cost? Such a price that the IDF will never tangle with the Lebanon Shites again. So if assault infantry needs to go against Hezbollah, who will provide it? I don't think it will be IDF. The IDFAF can deliver tremendous ordinance but will even MOAB's be sufficient to crumble the redoubts that have been constructed since the last go round.
    Consequently, the feasible action is to launch a mobile attach through Syria after a relatively long "shock and awe" softening up. Although Assad's forces have combat experience they are likely no match for the first line IDF units. The question then becomes will the logistical and morale challenge of extended high tempo combat find the IDF ground forces wanting? That seems to be what Col Lang is driving at .
    It appears that the Russian hardware and the Russian resolve that Saker talked about was much over rated in Syria. So that little help can be expected from Putin to resist an Israeli attack to occupy territory ( temporarily) in Syria and cut the Hezbollah supply line in order to avoid a costly cross border attack on a defensive salient.
    But if the feared Russian equipment and personnel proved impotent is it not possible that the highly respected IDF might also turn out to be less than invincible?
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  • Now in Taki's Magazine, my book review of Jonathan Weisman's (((Semitism))): Read the
  • @Lot
    "For someone who is absolutely, positively, definitely not Jewish"

    Wow, you are just obsessed with my ethnic background, which I have been always been happy to disclose here when asked. Jew-counting is a hobby of yours. I get it. And that's OK, I've partaken in Jew Census myself, and Google Autofill makes clear we aren't alone! Is celebrity X ... typically autofils to gay, but Jewish is a respectable second.

    But I am sorry to report, and indeed personally exemplify, a complication to your hobby, namely that "Am I a Jew" does not have a simple answer. In general Americans care about your beliefs much more than ethnicity on the Jew v. Christian issue. And there the answer is easy, I am not a Jew! Would you like to see my baptismal photo? You should convert too, have you heard the Good News my brother?

    But I have a pretty strong hunch you don't believe in God or the devinity of Christ, what you care about is, "is this awful person who disagrees with of the Hebrew blood?" And that's OK!

    Here's the exact number: 23andme says 47.9% Ashkenazi. That's more than enough to make me oven-worthy to your friends at Occidental Observer, and under the Nuremberg Laws, though I'd have it better than you were we transported there. On the other hand, I fail the maternal line test, and likewise fail the culture test, since most of what I know of Jewish culture is from faithful watching of Seinfeld and Curb.

    "believing that Jewish over-representation has a strictly meritocratic origin in their superior IQs."

    How have you benefited personally from non-meritocratic Jewish preferences? I personally can't identify any help I received. Perhaps I should start wearing a JewCap to ease identification of my plurality ethnicity. You actually won't ever find me saying that Jewish over-representation is "strictly meritocratic," much less trying to persuade people of this. What I actually argued is that your work in that article, like the Hispanic crime one, was so shoddy in its statistical methods that it proves absolutely nothing one way or the other.

    My God man you are losing it.

    Do you really believe that Ron Unz is a Nazi dupe looking to fire up the ovens???

    The guy is just trying to be honest, unlike you, and while he certainly publishes pieces that are not flattering to Jewish behavior I have never seen him willfully lie to make a point.

    Why do you think he publishes this work? Because he hates Jews or because he is concerned that alternative viewpoints are not allowed in the land of the free and home of the brave. And perhaps he is just concerned about basic fairness, which to me was the whole point of his classic essay The Myth of American Meritocracy.

    This is his publication. He has taken great risks starting it and did not need the grief and hatred that he had to deal with by starting it. He has to deal with the hatred of people like you Lot as well as the hatred and ignorance of true anti-Semites–people who hate Jews just because they are Jews.

    Show the man a degree of respect for his courage and his defense of free speech.

    He has more than earned it.

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    No, lavoisier, it's you who's losing it. Seriously: search through this thread and ask yourself who's abusing whom? Lot, or RKU?
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  • Introduction President Trump cancelled his attendance at the Summit of the Americas meeting of all the 35 presidents of the region designed to debate and formulate a common policy. Trump delegated Vice President Michael Pence in his place. VP Pence a known nonentity with zero experience and even less knowledge of Latin America – US...
  • @HogHappenin
    Ah the same old canard of anti-semitism. No wonder you guys are so full of yourselves and are "natural" partners to our current overlords, the Zionist Juu.

    Refute what I said by facts instead of throwing the tired old canard at me. Perhaps truth indeed is "anti-semitic" apparently. Our state religion of "anti-antisemitism" and Holocaustinity! hallelujah! Indeed some Juus are quite true to the constitution and are not too shy of calling out the lie for what it is! Ain't no business like the Shoah business!

    Ironically, people whom the US army (at the behest of Israel) is murdering at an alarming rate irrespective of whether they be women/children etc happen to be Semites as well. Even Israel cares two hoots about the pals however it is now trying to promote "democracy" in Syria, along with the likes of such stalwarts of "Democracy" as the Saudis and the Qataris. Perhaps I should add the USA in that list as well. As we too have our own "unique" version of "democracy". Better to name it as "DemocraZy" with a capital Z, as in Zionism for Christ's sake. So we should cut the crap and move our capital from DC to Tel Aviv already. Or perhaps like that 4D chess-master DJT, it is Jerusalem that you prefer to have as the eternal capital of these Zionist states of Israeli-stan!

    Mr Unz

    This was written by me, the Hog. Why is it showing as ‘Dan Hayes’? When I put up my answer, it came up as ‘Dan Hayes’ instead of my handle.

    Could you please do a sanity check of your commenting system? Also is it possible to change the handle on this comment?

    [Fixed. A very strange bug in the system.]

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  • We landed in darkness. The last time I was in Narita was 18 years earlier. With a six-hour layover, I inexplicably didn’t leave the airport. “Can I possibly die without at least a glimpse of Japan?” I’d ask myself, cringing. Finally, I was there. My first impressions were the generous legroom on the train to...
  • Hi Linh,

    Many thanks. Your essay is a profound and revealing analysis of the character of the Japanese people.

    Many thanks.

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  • From The Forward: ADL Gets Lesser Role In Starbucks Diversity Training After Controversy April 27, 2018 By JTA Nikki Casey (JTA) — The Anti-Defamation League is no longer taking a leading role in next month’s diversity training at Starbucks stores across the United States, serving instead in an consulting role. Initially, the group’s CEO, Jonathan...
  • @Anon
    Wikipedia? Even 5 th graders are told not to believe Wikipedia.

    Anon[208]:

    Freeman Dyson: “Wikipedia – Nobody trusts it; Everybody uses it”.

    Unfortunately, all too true!

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  • That reminds me ... I've been a little under the weather for a few weeks, so I haven't harangued you much about the April iSteve fundraising drive. But I noticed just now that it's still April (at least in the Americas). Thanks to everybody who has contributed so far. As you likely know, three times...
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  • Introduction President Trump cancelled his attendance at the Summit of the Americas meeting of all the 35 presidents of the region designed to debate and formulate a common policy. Trump delegated Vice President Michael Pence in his place. VP Pence a known nonentity with zero experience and even less knowledge of Latin America – US...
  • @Thomm
    Refer to my Comment #40. My reply to you there suffices here.

    Your hatred of Jews is identical in nature to how blacks hate whites. Once again, you have proven to have more in common with blacks than with successful, normal whites.

    Get off my lawn!

    Ah the same old canard of anti-semitism. No wonder you guys are so full of yourselves and are “natural” partners to our current overlords, the Zionist Juu.

    Refute what I said by facts instead of throwing the tired old canard at me. Perhaps truth indeed is “anti-semitic” apparently. Our state religion of “anti-antisemitism” and Holocaustinity! hallelujah! Indeed some Juus are quite true to the constitution and are not too shy of calling out the lie for what it is! Ain’t no business like the Shoah business!

    Ironically, people whom the US army (at the behest of Israel) is murdering at an alarming rate irrespective of whether they be women/children etc happen to be Semites as well. Even Israel cares two hoots about the pals however it is now trying to promote “democracy” in Syria, along with the likes of such stalwarts of “Democracy” as the Saudis and the Qataris. Perhaps I should add the USA in that list as well. As we too have our own “unique” version of “democracy”. Better to name it as “DemocraZy” with a capital Z, as in Zionism for Christ’s sake. So we should cut the crap and move our capital from DC to Tel Aviv already. Or perhaps like that 4D chess-master DJT, it is Jerusalem that you prefer to have as the eternal capital of these Zionist states of Israeli-stan!

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    Ah the same old canard of anti-semitism.
     
    Everything you White Trashionalists say about Jews is exactly what BLM blacks say about whites.

    Plus, if Jews, at only 2% of the population, can oppress whites who outnumber them 35 to 1, then you are effectively claiming that mainstream whites are as dumb as you WN wiggers. At least blacks can claim they are outnumbered by their 'oppressors'.

    I assure you, the rest of us are not as deficient as you WN wiggers. There is a reason that WN wiggers is where the waste matter collects in preparation for elimination from our gene pool.
    , @HogHappenin
    Mr Unz

    This was written by me, the Hog. Why is it showing as 'Dan Hayes'? When I put up my answer, it came up as 'Dan Hayes' instead of my handle.

    Could you please do a sanity check of your commenting system? Also is it possible to change the handle on this comment?

    [Fixed. A very strange bug in the system.]
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  • iSteve commenter anon writes: If this training day is going to consist of speeches and hectoring from “civil rights leaders of color” then it’s going to be a complete waste of time. What the employees need is a clear explanation of the rules that they are supposed to follow and some specific examples and role-playing...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Steve & iSteve commentator anon:

    Rest assured that when push comes to shoves any conscientious Starbucks workers will be thrown under the boss by their virtuous Starbucks overlords!

    Under the boss? Hmm, that might raise #metoo issues for Starbucks.

    If it’s not one thing, it’s another.

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  • Brother Nathanael,

    I wish to compliment you for having the clearest enunciation of any of the UR video presenters. Much appreciated.

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  • iSteve commenter anon writes: If this training day is going to consist of speeches and hectoring from “civil rights leaders of color” then it’s going to be a complete waste of time. What the employees need is a clear explanation of the rules that they are supposed to follow and some specific examples and role-playing...
  • Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @27 year old
    I feel bad for the White normie employees of Starbucks.

    Starbucks employees should unionize.

    If cuckservatives weren’t stupid they’d get someone to become a Teamsters union organizer and get Starbucks employees to become Teamsters. Opposing this would require Schultz to burn a lot of his leftist political capital and acquiescing would reduce his margins substantially. And it would fill the Teamster ranks with, well, what more can I say? That last part is admittedly a double edged sword…..for us.

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  • @Steve Sailer
    The Cambodian penchant for donut shops is just random historical contingency. A Cambodian refugee got a management trainee job with Duncan Donuts around 1975. He turned out to be really good at running donut shops and was soon importing relatives and countrymen to work for him. Also, became famous among Cambodians in the US and inspired others to get into that business.

    There's only one donut shop in Phnom Penh.

    Steve,

    Other possible examples of “random historical contingency”: Greek diners and Patel motels (hot-sheet and other type)?

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  • From The Forward: ADL Gets Lesser Role In Starbucks Diversity Training After Controversy April 27, 2018 By JTA Nikki Casey (JTA) — The Anti-Defamation League is no longer taking a leading role in next month’s diversity training at Starbucks stores across the United States, serving instead in an consulting role. Initially, the group’s CEO, Jonathan...
  • @Jack D
    The Israelis broke into Iran's secret nuclear archive in the center of Teheran, stole 1/2 a ton of files and CDs, took them out of the country and brought them to Jerusalem. The Iranians always claimed that they had no nuclear weapons program but it turns out they were lying. Who could have imagined that they would lie about such a thing?

    Whether you think Bibi should be in jail or not, you have to admit that is an intelligence coup. That the Israelis did this and publicly announced it has to be humiliating to the Republican Guards. Who among them is the traitor, the Israeli spy? If the Israelis get lucky the Iranians will execute a whole bunch of loyal Iranians out of suspicion. This has to mess with the head of Khamenei and every Iranian nuclear scientist - if the Israelis can smuggle 1/2 a ton of files out of the middle of Teheran then what is too keep them from bringing any Iranian to Jerusalem for an Eichmann style trial? Or maybe one day you wake up dead because the Israelis have put a bomb in your bed?

    Jack D:

    We’ve all known for some time that the Arab World can be easily subverted by Israeli espionage and subversion. So I suppose it goes in spades for the Persians.

    And how the hell did the Israelis manage to cart off a 1/2 ton of evidence from right under the Iranian noses, although it’s more likely to be of purely historical usage/value.

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    maybe the crazy old coot who lives up in the sky helped.
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  • The musical chairs playing out among the senior officials that make up the President Donald Trump White House team would be amusing to watch but for the genuine damage that it is doing to the United States. The lack of any coherence in policy means that the State Department now has diplomats that do not...
  • @Carroll Price
    Both South Carolina and Georgia are being over-run by Yankees fleeing ruinous property taxes, in New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey. The problem is, that as soon as they settled in, they start running for public office, where they serve as members of school boards, mayors, county councilmen, etc, with results being that they are turning their new-found home into a hell-hole similar to the one they left.

    Carroll Price:

    The same thing has happened in New Hampshire where financial refugees fleeing the high taxes of the contiguous Peoples Republic of Taxachusetts have tried to introduce all types of crazy-left ideas.

    Of course the sad course of events in Vermont is even more egregious – going from skinflint Calvin Coolidge of historical memory to financially profligate Bernie S!

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  • @Dan Hayes
    How did Nikki Haley ever manage to get elected in South Carolina?

    Maybe for the same reason that Lindsey Graham gets reelected!

    These two pliant tools are a very poor commentary on the political acumen of this states electorate!

    Both South Carolina and Georgia are being over-run by Yankees fleeing ruinous property taxes, in New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey. The problem is, that as soon as they settled in, they start running for public office, where they serve as members of school boards, mayors, county councilmen, etc, with results being that they are turning their new-found home into a hell-hole similar to the one they left.

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    Carroll Price:

    The same thing has happened in New Hampshire where financial refugees fleeing the high taxes of the contiguous Peoples Republic of Taxachusetts have tried to introduce all types of crazy-left ideas.

    Of course the sad course of events in Vermont is even more egregious - going from skinflint Calvin Coolidge of historical memory to financially profligate Bernie S!

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  • iSteve commenter anon writes: If this training day is going to consist of speeches and hectoring from “civil rights leaders of color” then it’s going to be a complete waste of time. What the employees need is a clear explanation of the rules that they are supposed to follow and some specific examples and role-playing...
  • @Anonymous
    In the fairly recent past, I have worked in situations where I had to "throw people out". (I was a very underemployed white man, for what it's worth, and both my coworkers and the public we dealt with tended to be fairly multiracial.) A number of times I was the sole person responsible for getting them to go, and the crucial thing that enabled me to do this authoritatively was knowing that I would be backed up by my superiors. Sometimes I had to deal with people that were not immediately causing objective harm, but were in clear violation of clear rules. I sought to convey that I understood their frustration, but that there were rules in place that it was my duty to enforce. But the crucial thing that made me ready and willing to do this was knowing that I would be backed up by people up the chain.

    Right now I am pretty much a daily patron of Starbucks, and my sense is that this "training" is simply going to increase the distance between workers and upper management, and will likely significantly decrease the trust that front-line employees have in their superiors. What is actually needed is trust in the ability of individuals to make judgments on their own, but in reality, making good interpersonal judgments depends in part on relying on every piece of information one has on others, and this most certainly includes all sorts of information that the Starbucks corporation will certainly say should not be used in judging others.

    The message Starbucks is conveying to its employees is, “We can throw you under the bus if you don’t enforce the rules of the establishment, but we can also throw you under the bus if you do enforce the rules of the establishment. So just get used to the idea that, depending on how things pan out, you can get thrown under the bus regardless of what you do. And don’t forget to smile.”

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    This is most businesses, to be honest. They want to make money; treating their workers fairly is far down the list, and may even be a net negative if labor insecurity makes people work harder.
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  • It seems such an obvious truth: In regione caecorum rex est luscus — “In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.” But the English writer H.G. Wells turned the proverb on its head in his short-story “The Country of the Blind” (1904), one of the cleverest and most profound ever written. Wells’...
  • Hear Ye, Hear Ye:

    Ron has continued God’s work by again republishing from The Occidental Observer, the sanctum sanctorum of forbidden thought!

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  • iSteve commenter anon writes: If this training day is going to consist of speeches and hectoring from “civil rights leaders of color” then it’s going to be a complete waste of time. What the employees need is a clear explanation of the rules that they are supposed to follow and some specific examples and role-playing...
  • Steve & iSteve commentator anon:

    Rest assured that when push comes to shoves any conscientious Starbucks workers will be thrown under the boss by their virtuous Starbucks overlords!

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    Under the boss? Hmm, that might raise #metoo issues for Starbucks.

    If it's not one thing, it's another.
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  • Andrew Sullivan writes in New York Magazine: Will There Always Be an England? Andrew Sullivan April 27, 2018 8:43 am ... London is close to unrecognizable from the city I knew as a teen. Its skyline has a touch of Dubai to it, the wealth is tangible, even obscene, the prices absurd, the energy young...
  • @J.Ross
    They need Finnish female cashiers.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNIxN1G5aM

    J.Ross:

    These are examples of the same Finnish fortitude meted out to the Soviets in World War II precursor battles.

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  • From The Tablet, Jewish publication: THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: FROM KLAN HUNTERS TO MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR SMEAR MACHINE By bizarrely going after Sam Harris, Majid Nawaaz, and others, the once venerable organization has abandoned its core mission, focusing instead on dirty partisan politics By Liel Leibovitz April 26, 2018 • 9:30 PM Shortly after the election...
  • Steve,

    The SPLC has survived some (but not many) previous attacks on both its financial and journalistic integrity from Harper’s Magazine and other establishment organs.

    It remains to be seen (or hoped) whether The Tablet’s attack will prove any more successful or long enduring.

    Unfortunately, I wouldn’t bet the farm on any significant lessening of its perverse influence on American polity. Although one can always hope!

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  • When you make up a list of individuals who have spread the most unhappiness throughout the world, the top ten might include Tamerlane, Hitler, Genghis Khan, Stalin, and, of course, campfire song composer Stephen Foster. The statue of Stephen "Oh, Susanna" Foster was hauled away today in Pittsburgh. Who will they come for in the...
  • Steve,

    Some of this blog’s commentators have stated that many of Seuss’ works are permeated with conservative themes / values.

    If so, Seuss would be spinning in his grave in embarrassment for works poorly done since he was a dyed-in-the-wool left wing ideologue!

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    People take too seriously labels like conservative, liberal, left wing, right wing, and so on, the meaning of which changes over time. I don't know much about Seuss the man, but I've read many of his books for children, and never found him to be heavy handed. Ultimately, he comes across to me as caring about people rather than just things or ideas, and I would guess (but hard to say) that anyone with similar concerns would probably have gotten on with him famously.
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  • Every so often you come across Stalinists (and earnest, if misguided, vatniks) claiming that Solzhenitsyn called on the US to nuke the USSR. Here is their "evidence" from a 1975 speech: Problem #1 - Where is the actual call to attack - let alone nuke - the USSR? If you are particularly paranoid, I suppose...
  • Mr. Karlin, thank you for setting the record straight for everybody to see. Unfortunately it won’t help much to change minds of people like Martyanov because they see what they want to see.

    It was on these pages at unz.com that I discovered for the first time that allegation which are clear libels against Solzhenitsyn existed. This somewhat dampened my optimism for the future of Russia. I did not realize that the damage done by 70 years of Bolshevik rule would be that deep. Martyanovs eventually will die out and hopefully their children will not inherit nonsensical beliefs of their parents.

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  • Freeman Dyson is perhaps the last surviving (or at least still active) physicist or mathematician of the Bohr / Feynman / Turing / Zeldovich / Heisenberg generation who were employed to use their huge brains during WWII. As a teenager, he worked as a statistical analyst for the RAF Bomber Command. He assisted an older...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Earl Lemongrab:

    I nominate Fred Hoyle as both a top-notch scientist and writer of science-fact and science-fiction.

    Hoyle certainly deserved but never received a Nobel Laureate for his path-breaking work on stellar nucleoynthesis.

    He may have been deprived of his Nobel because of his speculations that pansperma was the origin of earth's life. His later anthropogenesis work would certainly have black-balled him.

    Hoyle also was a Big Bang sceptic – in fact he coined the phrase – probably didn’t help either.

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  • A letter to the editor featured in the New York Times: Racism in the Housing Market April 23, 2018 To the Editor: In “A ‘Black Tax’ on Housing” (editorial, April 15), you say the reduction of the black homeownership rate to levels not seen since the 1960s when housing discrimination was legal is a reflection...
  • @PiltdownMan
    Vishal Garg appears to be a turn of the century dotcom millionaire, a guy who worked at Morgan Stanley for a year before quitting to start an online student loan company.

    From his LinkedIn profile:

    Co-Founder&President - MRU Holdings / MyRichUncle
    January 2000 – January 2009 (9 years 1 month)
    Starting with $30,000 at the age of 21, over a 7 year period built, took public (NASDAQ 2005) and grew into 4th largest publicly traded student loan company in the United States.

    Analyst, Mergers & Acquisitions Dept
    Morgan Stanley
    1998 – 1999 (1 year)

    New York University - Leonard N. Stern School of Business
    BS, Finance, International Business - 1995 – 1998
    Stuyvesant High School - 1991 – 1995

    I know a couple of guys like that, who picked up on the dotcom thing early, and knowing nothing at all about technology, killed themselves working hard, for a year or so, to build dotcom firms which went public during the earlier part of the boom, just after Netscape went public. Both made tens of millions and were done by the late 1990s. Back then, the IPO market rewarded any business venture that simply had some kind of online front-end presence, even if it was just a couple of demo webpages with clickable forms for data input.

    PiltdownMan:

    With alumnus Garg, NYC’s Stuyvesant High School once again proves its mettle for being a great Incubator of the Vile!

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    Yes, but he did go to a safety school from Stuy, so he was probably held in low esteem there as well.
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  • The cast of characters:

    The Villain – Angelo Mozilo

    The Dunce – George W Bush

    The Un-indicted Co-conspirator – Franklin Raines

    And proving that white collar crime can pay – Mazilo is presently ensconced near a California golf course!

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  • The musical chairs playing out among the senior officials that make up the President Donald Trump White House team would be amusing to watch but for the genuine damage that it is doing to the United States. The lack of any coherence in policy means that the State Department now has diplomats that do not...
  • @Dan Hayes
    Anon[248]:

    But Melania is the ultimate Trophy Wife!

    That’s just the problem. Most women do not like trophy wives.

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    Most men don't like their trophy wives either, that is, they like them at first but the match soon deteriorates from there. They tend to look good in the original packaging but are way overpriced and not worth the money. Buyers remorse is the rule rather than the exception.
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  • Jimmy,

    If this stunt had been performed in England, Vaughan would have sued you into absolute penury!

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  • Freeman Dyson is perhaps the last surviving (or at least still active) physicist or mathematician of the Bohr / Feynman / Turing / Zeldovich / Heisenberg generation who were employed to use their huge brains during WWII. As a teenager, he worked as a statistical analyst for the RAF Bomber Command. He assisted an older...
  • @Mr. Anon

    It would be far easier for me to pick my nose too, but that’s not the point. The point is to expand humanity off planet to get our eggs out of one basket. There are many potential and highly probable existential risks to humanity this century. Not the least of which is genetically engineered pathogens, which potentially any competent graduate student could cook up in the future.
     
    The point was this: colonizing Antarctica or the ocean floor is hard. Really hard. And yet, it is orders of magnitude easier than colonizing space. People vastly underestimate the difficulties of living off-world.

    Moreover, why would it protect us from pathogens? Do you imagine that the Martian Republic will be a hermit kingdom - a planetary analog of Enver Hoxha's Albania? Deadly pathogens could spread via spaceship just as easily as by airplane.

    Mr. Anon wrote:

    The point was this: colonizing Antarctica or the ocean floor is hard. Really hard. And yet, it is orders of magnitude easier than colonizing space. People vastly underestimate the difficulties of living off-world.

    Yeah. One thing most space enthusiasts fail to consider is the division of labor involved in a modern industrial economy. Who’s going to make the toilet paper on Mars? The ball-point pens? The liquid-crystal displays? The solid-state flash drives? Just to mention a few of the objects not far from where I am now sitting.

    There is a tendency to think that once you have figured out how to get oxygen out of the Martian surface, grow some food, and keep warm, then you are home free. In fact, to sustain a modern industrial economy– Who will build the machines that are required to produce the pure, crystalline silicon wafers that are needed to make the flash drives? — requires a division of labor that, I would guess, necessarily involves millions of people.

    And, it is going to be a very,, very long time before there are millions of people on Mars (mainly because it is going to be very, very costly to ferry supplies to those millions of people until they have built a self-sustaining industrial economy).

    The Martian was really cool, but how long was he on Mars? A year-and-a-half or so? He just had to survive until he was rescued; he was not really self-sustaining for the long haul.

    Never say never: who knows what will be done in a thousand years! But in our or our children’s lifetime, you’re right: truly self-sustaining space colonies are, alas, not in the cards.

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    Agreed, I wouldn't rule it out, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, Elon Musk's enthusiasm notwithstanding. My guess would be that a self-sustaining Mars colony could happen in 200-500 years, depending upon what happens here on Earth. But that's just my best informed guess.
    , @Captain Tripps
    Dave et al, if you haven't already, check out the "The Expanse" series on ScyFy channel. I think it presents a reasonably good scenario of near solar system colonization by humanity; the technology isn't wildly improbable like, say Star Trek (in fact it sensibly extrapolates what practical technology could look like 200+ years hence given our current understanding and capabilities). Aside from the (rather silly) 2001: Space Odyssey-like initial premise (I won't give it away if you have an interest in watching), its pretty entertaining. Essentially three competing societies, Earth, Mars and the "Belters"; Earthers as, well the founder population, Martians as the up and coming "New World", and the Belters as a sort of worker-drone population that has adapted to life in near-zero G in the asteroid belt, mining, packing and shipping the resources to Earth and Mars. As the series commences the Belters are feeling their "political oats", beginning an early 20th century-style "workers' revolution" and demanding equal rights with Earth and Mars, while Earth and Mars are in a "Cold War". Interestingly, Martians can only spend a limited time on Earth before standard Earth 1G and atmospheric pressure begins to adversely affect their health; Belters can't go there at all because they're physiologically adapted to low-G and would quickly suffocate and die.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series)#Plot

    Basically, I'm with AnotherDad on this; we are centuries away, if at all, at colonizing space/near solar system, assuming we don't cause our own extinction before then; Earth and near-Earth should be our focus because its the only home we've got that we're perfectly adapted to.
    , @Cloudswrest
    Regarding the division of labor, once technology gets to the point where we can build programmable machines capable of reproducing themselves from ambient raw material, the division of labor issue will become moot. Think "full compliment of self reproducing livestock" only much more versatile.
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  • The musical chairs playing out among the senior officials that make up the President Donald Trump White House team would be amusing to watch but for the genuine damage that it is doing to the United States. The lack of any coherence in policy means that the State Department now has diplomats that do not...
  • @anon

    p.s. Will Melania’s dignity and grace carry Trump to acceptance by the American people?
     
    I don't think most Americans have warmed up to Melania. She has a heavy foreign accent and is a major ice queen.

    Anon[248]:

    But Melania is the ultimate Trophy Wife!

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  • From the New York Times: Now that the New York Times has shone the spotlight on the whiteness of the Fortune 500 names, I am looking forward to the NYT's followup on the Forbes 400 of the Jewishness of the first and/or last names of America's billionaires. They are going to do that analysis, right?
  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    The nytimes.com front page currently reads:

    “In Top Jobs, There Are Almost as Many Men Named John as Women”

    Truth, please pick up the courtesy phone.

    On topic:

    A Jewish fundraiser for Hildabeast and (now former) chair of the NY/NJ Port Authority’s Governance and Ethics Committee leans in, tries to pull rank, and finds her privilege has limits:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vlu1FRaic

    Jennifer Ickham Errican:

    This morning’s Daily Mail has provided a partial transcript of the efforts of the wannabe politician’s efforts to politically intimidate the two police officers. Although her sense of arrogance and self-anointed privilege comes out better in the video.

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  • Freeman Dyson is perhaps the last surviving (or at least still active) physicist or mathematician of the Bohr / Feynman / Turing / Zeldovich / Heisenberg generation who were employed to use their huge brains during WWII. As a teenager, he worked as a statistical analyst for the RAF Bomber Command. He assisted an older...
  • @nebulafox
    I personally think-not that my opinion matters a fart's worth-proving the equivalence between the operator and path integral methods combined was worth a Nobel Prize on its own merit, even before you get to his other contributions. (I remember seeing the Dyson series for the first time in Sakurai and being blown away. A lot of things about time evolution in QM that seemed mysterious starting clicking around that time.) That said, you could make the argument that both lie more in the realms of mathematical innovation than physics. My knowledge is a little hazy, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Dirac didn't get his Nobel Prize for proving the equivalence of matrix mechanics and wave mechanics, right? But he was awarded it in conjunction with Schroedinger. The wording on the Nobel Prize site is a little ambiguous. It says they got it for creating "new productive forms of atomic theory."

    For what it is worth, Dyson himself doesn't seem to be too bothered by it. Apart from saying that Feynman, Schwinger, and Tomonaga deserved precedence (accurate), he has commented that his research interests and his nature don't lend themselves to Nobel Prize winning. Modern Nobel Prize winners typically sit down with a huge single problem for decades and solve it. That's just not his style.

    Dyson actually strikes me as being quite similar to J. Robert Oppenheimer in his relative lack of Sitzfleisch and myriad interests. Oppenheimer's physics career, pre-Manhattan Project, was a series of brilliant little pinpricks across different fields. He just was too easily interested in everything to sit down for too long.

    >The two guys can’t stand each other!

    Heh, his vehemence was truly something else. I felt like a horrible human being for studying Woit's paper on quantum mechanics for mathematicians (not intended for this purpose, but great resource for physicists wishing to upgrade their group theory knowledge) and thinking it was great when first going onto his blog. Those wacky uber-theorists...

    Dyson actually strikes me as being quite similar to J. Robert Oppenheimer in his relative lack of Sitzfleisch and myriad interests.

    In some ways, Freeman Dyson reminds me of George Gamow, perhaps the best example of a first-rank physicist from the golden age who didn’t win a Nobel. Gamow was an excellent popular science writer, and his mind settled on more than one big area of inquiry.

    If, as Steve noted a couple of months ago, the Nobel Committee would honor more than three scientists at a time, Gamow would certainly have received a Nobel for at least one of the problems he solved in nucleocomsogenesis. He might have won a Nobel in more than one field, given his role in recognizing and identifying the DNA/RNA set of problems and initiating the project to figure out the structure of DNA.

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  • At first, I thought I had inadvertently entered an active war zone. I was on a lonely two-lane road in southern New Mexico heading for El Paso, Texas. Off to the side of the road, hardly concealed behind some desert shrubs, I suddenly noticed what seemed to be a tank. For a second, I thought...
  • One of the great things about the Unz Review is that Ron Unz gives everyone a say; even if it’s just a load of bollocks like this. I’m not an American, but if I was and my country was being invaded by stealth from Latin America, I’d want a wall and I’d want it now!

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    What are you going to do about the ones who fly in from Israel?
    , @Remenber the Maine
    Just let me remember you that California , Arizona , New Mexico , Texas , Colorado , Nevada , Florida ... are Spanish names , the native indians and the Spaniards were there first . All these lands belongued to Spain , as well as Cuba ,Puerto Rico and The Philipines .

    Mexico inherited fron Spain all the present US Southwest

    The anglos invaded those lands from the north by stealth , by deceit and by brute force . See US-Mexico wars , see US -Spain war in Cuba and the Philipines .
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  • Freeman Dyson is perhaps the last surviving (or at least still active) physicist or mathematician of the Bohr / Feynman / Turing / Zeldovich / Heisenberg generation who were employed to use their huge brains during WWII. As a teenager, he worked as a statistical analyst for the RAF Bomber Command. He assisted an older...
  • @PhysicistDave
    MEH 0910 asked:

    If the Nobel Prize could be shared by four people rather than just three, wouldn’t Dyson have gotten a share along with Tomonaga, Schwinger, and Feynman?
     
    Yeah, I think so. Dyson is one of those cases where it is possible to understand the decision of the Nobel committee, but it is easy to see him right in line behind Schwinger.

    Of course, as this discussion shows, Freeman Dyson is more famous, both among the public and among physicists, than many Nobel laureates (the same is obviously true for Hawking). So, perhaps sometimes it is okay to not get a Nobel prize!

    Dave

    PhysicistDave,

    Could not Dyson be depreciated since his main contribution was to synthesize the works of Tomonaga, Schwinger, and Feynman? I defer to your judgement.

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  • @Earl Lemongrab
    Dyson is pretty unusual in that he's considered a top tier mind in his field as well as a first rate writer for general audiences (Disturbing the Universe in particular is beautifully written.) Most first tier scientists are either mediocre prose stylists (Hawking) or heavily edited by others (Feynman,) while most scientists who write well for a general audience aren't really the leading lights of their fields (coughcoughGould.) Are there any other top shelf scientists who are first rate writers like Dyson?

    Earl Lemongrab:

    I nominate Fred Hoyle as both a top-notch scientist and writer of science-fact and science-fiction.

    Hoyle certainly deserved but never received a Nobel Laureate for his path-breaking work on stellar nucleoynthesis.

    He may have been deprived of his Nobel because of his speculations that pansperma was the origin of earth’s life. His later anthropogenesis work would certainly have black-balled him.

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    Hoyle also was a Big Bang sceptic - in fact he coined the phrase - probably didn't help either.
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