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So it’s been an exciting few weeks for Antifa and the rest of the neoliberal Resistance. OK, they haven’t yet managed to overthrow the Putin-Nazi occupation government (hereinafter “POG”), but they’ve definitely got “the Fash” on the run. “Fascism” hysteria is spreading like wildfire. Liberal Twitter mobs are out for blood. At this point, it’s only a matter of time until the sleeping giant of normality awakens and purges America of the fascist filth that have Putin-Nazified this once great nation.

Antifa has been at the vanguard of the fight, smashing the Fash on both East and West Coasts. In Portland, where a gang of neo-fascist anti-masturbationists known as the “Proud Boys” had assembled for a self-promotional street fight they were billing as the “Battle of Portland 2,” Antifa militants positively identified and preventatively beat the living snot out of a journalist named Andy Ngo. To prevent him from snitching to the fascist cops (who are allegedly working hand in hand with POG), they self-defensively robbed him, sprayed him with silly string, and pelted him with vegan milkshakes.

Now, before you get all up in arms about Antifa assaulting and robbing journalists, you need to know a couple of things. First, according to Antifa spokespersons, and those bloodthirsty liberal Twitter mobs, Andy Ngo is a “fascist adjacent,” and possibly even a card carrying fascist. Antifa representative Alexander Reid Ross claims that Ngo is personally responsible for putting people’s names on a Nazi “kill-list” (or at least that Ngo’s writing has been published by Quillette, which published an article by someone else that some fascists read and copied people’s names from), so, basically, he deserves to die.

Also, assaulting and robbing Ngo was technically “preemptive self-defense” (you know, the same as when we invaded Iraq to defend ourselves from those WMDs). Despite their helmets and body armor, and the fact that Ngo is a doughy little gay guy, his presence among them on a public street was making Antifa feel “unsafe.” So, they had no choice but to beat him senseless, steal his camera, and vegan milkshake him. As Antifa expert Mark Bray explains, when you’re Antifa, “fighting back is always self-defense, even if [you] strike the first blow.” (This logic only applies to anti-fascists, of course, like Antifa and the U.S. military, and not to, you know, gangs of thugs, or the perpetrators of wars of aggression.)

Antifa’s self-defensive mugging of a journalist apparently scared the crap out of POG, because one week later, back in Washington, D.C., President Hitler called in the tanks, and the Luftwaffe, and announced that he was going to stage a reenactment of a Nuremberg Rally right in front of the Lincoln Memorial. The liberal intelligentsia went apeshit. This was really it this time! Putin had given Trump the green-light to declare martial law and pronounce himself Führer. The long-awaited Putin-Nazi Apocalypse was finally about to begin!

Unfortunately, Trump’s Fourth of July Jamboree turned out to be a rather tame affair. He even almost made it through his speech without making an ass of himself. This was extremely disappointing for liberals, who were hoping he would go full-Hitler, paint “death’s heads” on the turrets of the Bradleys and a Swastika on the tail of Air Force One, and order ICE to start rounding up the Jews.

The weekend wasn’t a total let-down, however. The Proud Boys (who are clearly gluttons for punishment), staged another self-promotional event, this one billed as “Defend Free Speech.” A few hundred people turned up to listen to speeches by a handful of alt-right clowns desperately trying to reignite their careers. They were outnumbered 2 to 1 by Antifa, Black Lives Matter, assorted drag queens, and an indigenous, two-spirited transperson of color, who reportedly “performed a spoken word” on the meaning of the term “latinx.”

The D.C. police (who are even more fascist than the Portland police who stood by and watched as Antifa beat up and robbed a journalist) fascistically prevented Antifa militants from storming into the Alt-right rally and beating the snot out of everyone in sight. So, the anti-fascists had no choice but to preemptively attack a newspaper dispenser, which was presumably making them feel “unsafe,” or disseminating POG propaganda, or something. One of them tried to burn a flag, but he couldn’t figure out how to operate his matches. Assorted other hilarious acts of revolutionary direct action followed. Apparently, Antifa’s strategy was to smash the Fash by amusing them to death.

Meanwhile, militant Resistance actions against the POG “concentration camps” continue. New York City, San Francisco, and other liberal metropolitan areas have almost completely emptied out as liberals flock to the southern border to liberate the surviving prisoners. Conditions in the camps are now beyond inhuman. According to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, migrants are being forced to drink out of toilets, and otherwise subjected to “systematic cruelty,” (so you can understand why liberals are physically putting their bodies on the line to bring an end to this horrifying sadism, and not just sitting around on the Internet shrieking about “concentration camps” as they travel to their summer holiday rentals on Martha’s Vineyard, or the Hamptons, or wherever).

No, these Putin-Nazi “concentration camps” are nothing at all like the “detention facilities” the Obama administration operated, even though they look exactly the same. Sure, thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents, in cages, and there were tens of thousands of incidents of rape, sexual abuse, beatings, and so on, but, otherwise, these Obama “detention facilities” were more like great big 2-star hotels, or like student dorms at a state university, so there was no need for liberals to get all worked up and start comparing them to places like Dachau and Buchenwald.

Plus, here’s a picture of dead people! Look at this picture! These people are dead! So just shut up about Obama already! Enough with history, and critical thinking, and the practical aspects of immigration policy! It’s time to abolish all national borders, issue everyone a U.S. passport, and transcend the whole concept of national sovereignty … or at least to provide the capitalist ruling classes with an endless supply of cheap, undocumented, extremely compliant unskilled labor. Those Bel Air lawns aren’t going to mow themselves!

Jesus, I can’t believe I just wrote that. Concentration camps and dead people are nothing to joke about. It’s OK, however, to cynically use them to whip people up into a paroxysm of manufactured mass fascism hysteria. Not that the neoliberal ruling classes and the corporate media would ever do that. No, they would never repeatedly attempt to evoke our hatred of the actual Nazis (and their actual concentration camps … which people were dragged out of their homes, loaded onto trains, and shipped away to, and which you could not voluntarily depart) in order to short circuit our critical thinking, or otherwise emotionally manipulate us into supporting their War on Populism.

No, the Putin-Nazi occupation government is not just manufactured mass hysteria concocted by the neoliberal ruling classes. Donald Trump is really a Nazi. There’s a portrait of Hitler in the Oval Office. Putin really controls America. Putin, and his cabal of Russian Nazis. They’re everywhere. They own the banks. They control the media. They control elections. They are the “International Invisible Government.” (Is any of this sounding vaguely familiar?) They are devising the Final Solution to the Immigrant Problem right this minute. They are doing this at Mar-a-Lago, where Trump has had a big “Black Sun” etched into the marble floor.

So, if you’re serious about your anti-fascism, now’s the time to load up on silly string, ski goggles, masks, hard knuckle gloves, and whatever you make those milkshakes with. POG might be on the run at the moment, but there’s an election season coming up, so we need to be prepared for anything. The important thing is to remain hysterical, and to be ready to respond to whatever emotional stimuli the ruling classes wave in our faces. The fate of democracy hangs in the balance.

Oh, and watch out for those fascist newspaper dispensers!

C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing (UK) and Broadway Play Publishing (USA). His debut novel, ZONE 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant Paperbacks. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

 
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  1. Eric Arthur Blair aka George Orwell mentions in “Homage to Catalonia” that he went to Spain to kill fascists but wasn’t too bothered otherwise about the intricacies of the politics of it all. Just shows the perception these alt-righters have to overcome if they’re going to be accepted by the general public. I wonder how many Americans think: “My grandfather went all the way to Europe to fight the goddamn Nazis, and now we’re supposed to let them congregate on our streets?” I can imagine that most non-political normies would have little sympathy for these alt-right protesters, even some gay Chinese bloke getting battered and robbed. How many ordinary people do you know that if you told them that some “fascist” got beaten up wouldn’t reply with: “Serves him right!”? I’m all for free speech and free expression but let’s not fool ourselves here.

  2. KatakanBR says:
    @Commentator Mike

    That must be why the alt-lite keeps calling antifa the real fascists

    • Replies: @alexander
  3. A123 says:

    Orwellian Political Correctness has so tied language in knots it allows the Fake Stream Media to cover for the Democrats… the true Fascist party in the U.S. The “Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa” and the “Hilter Youth” are two different faces of the same concept. Except, modern technology makes Antifa Stormtroopers even more dangerous.

    As often as The Saker overreaches, he is right about one thing. Joe Biden and his son have strong Swastika ties to the neo-Nazi movement active in the Ukraine.

    Fortunately the American People are turning away from Facism. U.S. Citizens are embracing TRUMP’s Christian Populist message which is true to the values of our founding fathers. One can only pray that it is enough…. not too little too late.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @Amon
  4. peterAUS says:

    Wow…those guys in the picture look fierce. A scary looking bunch. To be honest, if I saw them blocking the street I am on I’d just skulk away. Don’t think I’d have any chance against just one of them, not even in my prime. Just look at that gear.
    And, they look capable of operating as a unit. Impressive.

    I wonder, though, do those shields, helmets and body armor stop 30-06 from, say…. 600 meters? Can’t say I am expert on the matter but I just feel that the bullet would go straight through the first tar..I mean trooper, in the bunch and probably even nick the one behind him. From 100 meters I feel it would go through two in a row, with ease. OK, maybe tumble in the second and stay there.

    In any case, interesting. Reminds me of the events in Moscow ’93. Started that way, at least. BTW, that was before Facebook, Twitter, and social media, guys. Ancient history, probably, for most on the alt-whatever.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Wally
    , @Realist
  5. alexander says:
    @KatakanBR

    Perhaps,

    But I do not see why you have to be “alt-lite” or “alt-right” to see Antifa as just one more fascistic tool of our elites …..masquerading as something supposed to be good.

    Antifa is as much of a fraud as the WMD’s in Iraq……Many people just don’t see it yet.

    • Agree: Realist
  6. fnn says:
    @Commentator Mike

    How many ordinary people do you know that if you told them that some “fascist” got beaten up wouldn’t reply with: “Serves him right!”? I’m all for free speech and free expression but let’s not fool ourselves here.

    Curious how George Lincoln Rockwell and his uniformed American Nazi Party were mostly left unmolested at a time when there millions of young and fit actual WW2 veterans out and about. GLR was assassinated in 1967, but the deed was done by one of his disgruntled followers.

  7. A123 says:
    @peterAUS

    do those shields, helmets and body armor stop 30-06 from, say…. 600 meters?

    I respectfully discourage this type of thinking… one does not want to sink to the level of George Soros and his willing sock puppets in an attempt to defeat them.

    There is real risk of a Ukrainian Maidan style false flag operation. Someone could shoot at these terrorists from what appear to be government positions. Such a crisis could be manufactured to help Joe Biden. Hopefully there are enough cameras around to debunk such shenanigans should they occur.

    PEACE

  8. Kirt says:
    @fnn

    In 1966 during a brief vacation in San Francisco following my release from the Army, I witnessed a rally of the American Nazi Party where Rockwell attempted to give a speech. He and his dozen or so followers and the police who protected them were attacked by projectiles thrown by leftists in a mob of hundreds. One of the police died of a heart attack as a result of this.

    • Replies: @padre
  9. peterAUS says:
    @A123

    ….one does not want to sink to the level of George Soros and his willing sock puppets in an attempt to defeat them.

    Hahaha…..

    Gracias.
    赞赏

    …..Someone could shoot at these terrorists from what appear to be government positions. Such a crisis could be manufactured to help Joe Biden. …..

    Hahahahahaha……oh my….hahaha….

    Muchas gracias.
    开裂

    BTW, please don’t hold me on re Spanish/Chinese. Just trying, as a proper citizen, to catch up with my rulers, both on the global and local level.

    • LOL: Nehlen
  10. @alexander

    …Antifa as just one more fascistic tool of our elites …..masquerading as something supposed to be good.

    As Huey Long (is supposed to have) said, when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    • Replies: @alexander
  11. Cyrano says:

    Let me tell you one contemporary fairy tale. It’s almost like it was written by the brothers Grimm, and it’s grim all right, but it wasn’t written by them. The script was actually written by the western degenerates – otherwise known as elites.

    In the glory days of capitalism, there used to be one long picnic table with one huge apple pie on top of that table. The tricky part was how to divide the pie so both the capitalists and the working class will be happy. Somehow, the capitalists were always in charge of dividing the pie – maybe because they had the knifes and the forks – some would say “means of production” – but that would turn the story into proletariat fairy tale, and we don’t want that.

    So sticking with the original version. The capitalists always divided the pie and although there were fewer of them, they always got most of the pie. Also, because they always attacked the pie from a right wing angle – they were also known as “right wingers” or more commonly – the bad guys. They got fed up with this routine – being called the bad guys, so they invented a new trick – which they thought it was ingenious, but I simply think that it’s idiotic.

    They invited a new guests to the picnic table. So now we have: 1. Capitalists 2. Working class 3. The 3rd worlders – because they came 3rd at the party. During the commotion which ensued with the arrival of the 3rd worlders, the capitalist were able to create the optical illusion like they were coming at the pie from the left wing. So now finally, they became the “good guys”, the working class became the “bad guys” because some of them started grumpily referring to the 3rd worlders in unflattering manner – which the capitalists labeled “racist”.

    Thus, the capitalist managed to turn the story upside down – they were the good guys, the working class were the bad guys, and the 3rd worlders were the victims. What bothers me the most about this horrible fairy tale is that the capitalists were so proud of themselves and their “ingenuity”. I still think that they are morons.

    You see, because the 3rd worlders are still coming to the picnic table and soon they’ll start getting ideas that taking a piece of the pie from the working class might not be enough to satisfy their hunger. They might go after the knifes and the forks, eliminate from the table both the capitalists and the working class and keep it all for themselves.

    • Agree: bluedog
  12. Truth3 says:

    Oh stop… my sides are splitting… I can’t catch my breath… bwahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

  13. roonaldo says:

    “Hi y’all Hitler!” Soon C.J., our true Fuhrer Incarnate, we shall gather with you in Berlin to launch the Fourth Wreck,…err Reich! “CeeJ heil,CeeJ heil!”

  14. Anon[281] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone attending a public speech with a mask and body armor should be immeditely detained and arrested by police. Their picture, names, and addresses should be published in the local newspaper and on the nearest jails website when booked.
    Groups that obtain permits to speak in public spaces should not be attacked, curious onlookers who listen to them should also not be attacked.

    Once identified, potential employers should decide for themselves if they want to risk hiring anybody who dressed up in modern body armor and a football helmet to attack listeners at a speech. Id never befriend such a person.

    • Replies: @Realist
  15. Mike G says:

    Antifa should be treated as they are, a bunch of soi bois and fat girls playing army.

    The proud boyz should stop playing with them, let antifa hang themselves as they surely will

  16. Wally says:
    @peterAUS

    said:
    “Just look at that gear.”

    Indeed.

    Next question:
    Who pays for all that coordinated gear?

    • Replies: @animalogic
  17. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Antifa expert Mark Bray? Expert? A Commie professor idling comfortably 3,000 miles away in New Hampshire, where he brainwashes young minds at some university.
    He should be given a title, like Dear Leader.

    Antifa is just another FBI/Deep State psyop, designed to make Americans think that Hitler was reincarnated in Trump and we’ll start hearing the goose-stepping of the Gestapo any day now, so let’s go out and beat up defenseless people, it makes us feel butch.

    Antifa–or as some joker named them, pAntifa, should be arrested and tried for sedition, but that ain’t going to happen, there’s too many defenseless people to beat up between now and November 2020.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  18. @fnn

    If the guy’s a Grunt vet, he just doesn’t get involved I such things. He’s had his fill of fighting.

    • Replies: @fnn
  19. Parfois1 says:

    I was about to make a comment about the absurdity of the fantastically fake fascist antifa fans parading in their imperial guard garb when I realized the article did not make much sense; but when I detected the partly concealed hammer-and-sickle emblem on their helmets, then I understood the satirical side of it and the penny dropped. For awhile I was lost for words… for they are BOLSHEVIKS! How come Hopkins omitted to elaborate on that crucial evidence to bring more blood-curling tension to the story and excite the UR’s crowd to paroxysms of intemperate revulsion for the well-meaning symbol of working class pride.

    However, I have to admit that I got myself confused when the Swastika intruded into the plot but remained invisible in the background. That was very unfair of Hopkins to deprive the loyal UR following of their moment of exaltation and sing “Deutschland Uber Alles”.

    Seriously, since I am so naive about some ways of the world, does the photo depict a true event or was it from a movie or reenactment of sorts? Hard to believe such a thing exists in true life, unless inspired by Soros’s money.

  20. Antifa is a bunch of deluded yuppies into cosplay. They are a creation of Globalism. Without government protection they would be in prison. I’m an old union man. I see them as Pinkertons. But brown shirts is probably more accurate.

    I see by your outfit that you are an Antifa.
    What a fucking joke.

    • Replies: @LarryS
    , @c matt
  21. Another great article, CJ.
    Love these bits of “newspeak”.
    “fascist adjacent”.
    “preemptive self defence”.
    Also like the way antifa stole the camera — that to me is real class.
    This Ngo guy must be REAL famous — in amongst the hurley burly of 100’s protesting they were able to ID him & deliver exemplary justice.
    Incidentally, when are people going to defend the rights of newspaper dispensers ?

  22. Charon says:

    Our politics now is primarily about who can call whom names like ‘fascist’ and ‘nazi’ first and loudest, and make it stick.

    Not sure I’d read much more into it than that.

  23. alexander says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    One could argue (correctly) that the entire……22 trillion National debt, ….Post 9-11,….”Neocon Empire”….. (foisted upon the shoulders of the duped American taxpayer) is the very definition of 21st century Fascism,…. in nearly every aspect of its enterprise.

    It is a malevolent , belligerent , wholly fascistic “Empire” built entirely upon its capacity to defraud the American people out of their laws, their liberties …..and their tax dollars.

    The idea that an “anti-fascist” movement..sprouts up…..19 years after the fact….and is somehow NOT directed at our “lie us into endless war ” Neocon establishment….is laughable in its absurdity.

    It is a total joke.

    • Replies: @Nosquat Loquat
  24. I agree with the posters above that Antifa are fake. They have always seemed like agents provocateurs to me, and they seem to have materialized out of nowhere (a clear sign of outside funding), just after Trump was elected. In France they periodically appear at Yellow Vest demonstrations and, guess what? they attack the Yellow Vests. The fact that they live out the lies of the mainstream media (the “fascist threat”, the “populist threat”) speaks volumes. And the fact that their actions serve the ruling elite pretty much clinches the deal. They are nothing like the anarchist, antiglobalist groupuscules that first appeared in Seattle in the late 90s and periodically resurfaced at antiglobalist rallies, in the Occupy movement, and elsewhere.

    But what perhaps best indicates what they are about, and where their true interest lies, is that unlike the anarchist activists of the last 2-3 decades, they steadfastly ignore the fact that the true fascism in the so-called democratic West is already well-ensconced in the institutions of power, has been there for a while (especially post-911)

    If they were real anti-fascists, they would be fighting the police and the government (indeed both wings of the duopoly), and the already present police state. The fact that they are not, shows that Antifa are frauds. A front organization.

    • Agree: Wally, Parfois1
  25. Antifa were out in force at the anti-abortion demonstrations here in Ireland last year, attacking the elderly and small children in brave self defence, dressed in their trade mark Black Shirts, just like their arch enemy, the Nazi Black Shirts. I can’t figure out if these people are being ironic, or are just plain stupid.

    • Replies: @Jake
  26. onebornfree says: • Website

    This just in:

    “Facebook now inciting users to commit violence against Paul Joseph Watson and anyone else who isn’t a Left-wing Nazi Brown Shirt” : https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-10-facebook-now-inciting-users-to-commit-violence-against-paul-joseph-watson.html

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  27. onebornfree says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    onebornfree says: “Facebook now inciting users to commit violence against Paul Joseph Watson and anyone else who isn’t a Left-wing Nazi Brown Shirt”

    Update! Now this just in:

    “Facebook reverses: Stops violent threats on ‘dangerous individuals’
    Social-media giant pulls 180 after fierce backlash”:
    https://www.wnd.com/2019/07/facebook-reverses-stops-violent-threats-on-dangerous-individuals/?cat_orig=us

    Regards onebornfree

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  28. free2bees says:

    C.J.

    Are all these recent laws outlawing criticism of Israel/advocating BDS “fascistic” and should free-speech loving Americans be “hysterical” about them?

    Or, are they merely the best laws that foreign lobbyists and their loot can buy?

  29. Yes, the right-wing goes into throes of ecstasy beating up on young leftys, but when it comes actual laws suppressing free speech sponsored by the Israel Lobby (often written and passed in the dead of night), our faith-based warriors suddenly suffer a loss of conviction and we hear nothing but crickets chirping….

  30. This is the internet-enhanced version of a typical authoritarian takeover. Below are a few of the main strategies that are being used to do this. Perhaps it would be helpful (to maintaining America as a sovereign, free country) if those who are interested in understanding in detail what’s going on added and subtracted content from it (fixing inaccuracies and misconceptions, adding examples and sources, and so on) and then reposted their edited versions here in order to create better and better versions, which people who come across this could then use in the online info-war that will play a large part in determining the future of the country.

    How is the authoritarian takeover being carried out?

    1. Narrative control through censorship and bias implemented by big tech corporations. (For one example of how this is done, watch the secretly recorded video of Google employees discussing how the company engages in censorship and search algorithm manipulation to decrease the chances of Trump’s being re-elected and to steer people toward websites that promote leftist viewpoints.)

    2. Narrative control through censorship and bias implemented by mainstream media corporations and other appendages of the “legacy media.” Barrage the opposition with contrived scandals, allegations, and criticism from “experts” and well-known citizens on a daily basis.

    3. Identity politics. Portray all political opposition views as bigoted, racist, or unfair against groups that have been selected for protection in order to elicit those groups’ political support. Use perceived grievances of the selected protected groups to silence opposing views and extract wealth, legal advantage, and political advantage from opposing groups.

    4. Import foreigners to serve as a new voter base (i.e., engage in sedition on a massive scale). Use identity politics tactics and promises of free stuff to lure foreigners into the country and gain their political support. Help foreigners illegally vote (e.g., by providing them with IDs). Through the blocking of the census citizenship question, use the ever-increasing number of illegal aliens to alter the allocation of electoral college votes to states, which has the effects of (a) giving implicit voter representation to illegal aliens, (b) enabling Democrats to get more electoral votes in future elections, and (c) creating an incentive for states to harbor more illegal aliens.

    5. Engage in every form of voter fraud and voter manipulation imaginable. Watch the “Rigging the Election” videos surreptitiously recorded by Project Veritas for incontrovertible evidence of various illegal methods used by the left to illegal influence elections.

    6. Sow discord and fear through violence. People are less likely to voice opposition to Team Authoritarian in public if they risk their safety by doing so. Violent acts carried out by leftist groups such as Antifa can easily be whitewashed and even blamed on the “far right” through media control.

    7. Plague the opposition, especially the President, with an endless litany of lawsuits and legal threats, and to the extent that it’s possible, refuse to cooperate with the opposition in passing legislation and resolving political issues that could cast the opposition in a favorable light in the public’s eyes.

    8. Utilize support from international groups and subversive domestic groups that are eager to sow discord in America or gain control over its systems to further their own agendas. Here, I can only pose questions. How much of the illegal immigrant influx and far-left propaganda is being driven by money from the EU, UN, China, Soros, and so on, and what concrete evidence is there for such support? What political officials are being paid by subversive organizations (e.g., we know AOC, Olmar, and a couple of other Democrats are supported by the “Justice Democrats,” an organization with authoritarian views)? How much of Hollywood is actually owned by the Chinese at this point, and how are they using their ownership to influence how Hollywood propagandizes us?

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  31. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    I wonder, though, do those shields, helmets and body armor stop 30-06 from, say…. 600 meters?

    Why are protesters allowed to wear uniforms and particularly masks??? Any governing body serious about law and order would outlaw covering of faces during ‘protests’…for any reason. All protesters with face cover should be arrested and given 30 days jail time with their identity revealed to the public.

  32. Realist says:
    @Anon

    Hey you beat me to it. I totally agree with you. But I replied anyway, below.

  33. Jake says:

    “… to provide the capitalist ruling classes with an endless supply of cheap, undocumented, extremely compliant unskilled labor.”

    That is what mass immigration is all about. Mass immigration is the new cross Atlantic slave trade. It’s purpose is to make multimillionaires into billionaires, billionaires into multibillionaires, with the added bonus of squeezing the middle classes of all Western nations to near death.

    • Replies: @S
  34. Realist says:

    Yes, the right-wing goes into throes of ecstasy beating up on young leftys,…

    Citation???

  35. aandrews says:

    I really enjoy reading Hopkins.

    He even almost made it through his speech without making an ass of himself. This was extremely disappointing for liberals, who were hoping he would go full-Hitler, paint “death’s heads” on the turrets of the Bradleys and a Swastika on the tail of Air Force One, and order ICE to start rounding up the Jews.

    lolol

  36. Jake says:
    @Realist

    When you see photos of those huge KKK marches in the 1920s, the KKK members are wearing the white robes, but with no masks. Their faces were open to the public. And so they never hinted at directed so much as profanity at anyone.

    Even the KKK was considerably more honest and lawful and tolerant of others’ right to speech than Antifa.

    And Antifa is backed by our Deep State, by a number of billionaires, by the ‘Ivy League’ class of academics and their journalists peers, and the politicians beholden to them.

    • Replies: @Realist
  37. Jake says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    Neither, if by them you include those who pay the actual street thugs and give them orders. They are plain evil. They are showing you that they have the power to show you actual Nazi type clothes and lead you, quickly, to see them as anti-Nazi and therefore the only possible good thing.

    Think Orwell – you are learning to believe that 2+2 = 5, or 3 or 400: whatever the Powers That Be say.

  38. alexander says:
    @Nosquat Loquat

    Well put.

    …and right….. on point !

  39. Antifa is a zionist financed and backed agenda to undermine the social order of America, this is the bolsheviks in action in the US and they are as typical bolsheviks, wreckers, destroyers and if they could get away with it, killers, this is what they do, no surprise there!

    • Agree: anarchyst
  40. fnn says:
    @joeshittheragman

    But something like 9 out of 10 were not grunts, though they may have had some exposure to combat or actually have been in combat at some point.

  41. @A123

    I respectfully believe people have the God given right of self defense by whatever means they choose despite what the law says. The average person should be armed and dangerous, including idiots like the Proud Boys and Antifa.
    Consider a situation where everyone is armed to dispense a lethal strike against an attacker. There would be no Antifa after the first few were dispatched. The law disallowing our God given rights is the root of the problem with violence on both sides. The violence prevents rational discussion that would air the respective positions that would inform the public and then social norms would define the necessary direction to take.
    No one in his right mind would attack someone obviously armed. For proof, ask yourself how many times police stations have been attacked in the US versus schools, office buildings, hotels, etc. Could it be that the attacker fears retribution?
    “An armed society is a polite society.” – Robert A. Heinlein

    • Replies: @A123
  42. The scalpel says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    Newsflash: An asteroid is about to strike the earth!

    Update: Never mind. Just a speck of dust on my lens.

    Lol

    FWIW, I like your web site.

  43. Curle says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “I wonder how many Americans think: “My grandfather went all the way to Europe to fight the goddamn Nazis, and now we’re supposed to let them congregate on our streets?”

    Your universe of people with such a relation is diminishing quickly.

    I knew several WW2 vets including two uncles and two neighbors. They rarely spoke of the war and never said a bad word about the Germans. But, several spoke ill of FDR, one passionately. My father, an amateur historian with a particular interest in that war, never openly stated that we started that war, effectively, but his manner when discussing the war and FDR suggested there was a lot if ambiguity about the matter among those alive at that time and many viewed FDR as the problem.

  44. @Commentator Mike

    How many ordinary people do you know that if you told them that some “fascist” got beaten up wouldn’t reply with: “Serves him right!”? I’m all for free speech and free expression but let’s not fool ourselves here.

    Just yesterday I mentioned to a co-worker that I got banned from Twitter for questioning the Holocaust. She was horrified, not because Twitter banned me but because I doubted the six gorillian. She believes “hate speech” (i.e. anything not Zio-approved) must be appropriately punished.

    So thanks to her and Commenter Mike for confirming the propaganda is working and undesirables must be pilloried.

  45. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Realist

    That would just lead to an increased prevalence of trick-or-treating or similar dodges

    • Replies: @Realist
  46. sally says:
    @alexander

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-israeli-influence-squashing-free-speech-germany

    every where you look the nation state system is suppressing somebody.. this link above, and the article commented on report the result of explosive, but direct results of government operating in secret. It has put the nations governed against those who govern. Yet neither the governors or the governed are able to effect a change because response if ever there is to be one, ill come from those above the law makers and the governed. Two groups above the nation state and its lawmakers and armies control the nation state.
    Those two groups are: the domestic oligarch and the attached and privately owned corporate arms of the domestic oligarch and the foreign oligarch and their attached and privately owned corporations.
    The wealth is vested in the oligarch and the generation of income is vested in the corporation and both use the nation state to keep the governed producing the economic churn.

    The nation state system is a human rights suppressing tool and it is used by those who control the nation state but not those who command the nation state. <= Something better is needed.

    Failure on the part of the nation state system to provide proper education, opportunity, access, wealth distribution, and to direct the success of the Nation for the benefit of its governed, has rousted rebellion, and so state take oppressive measures to protect itself and those above from the governed.

    The nation states have been ordered to engage Nazi -like surveillance and personal IDs and to ignore for its officials any obligation to follow the same rule of law that is required of the governed. Oligarch wealth and private media distributed propaganda arms these groups, but the groups themselves, are tools of those who use the nation state (not the nation state) to achieve for them selves the benefits the nation state economy provides.

    The armed groups, capable to target any speech opposing the establishment and suppressing any activity of the governed (for example, protect their environment, self determination, demands for privacy,) will bring the rath of armed groups and propaganda into the picture. These outsiders or free loaders are encouraging private armies to put down these demands of the governed just as was done in Russian in times leading to the 1919 Bolshevik revolution, led by Lenin. There it was youth groups and propaganda that brought down the Czar and imposed Jewish rule over a Catholic Christian population(32 million such Christians were killed between 1919 and 1932).
    What are the powers these armed gangs are seeking to defend <=they are the monopoly powers and unconscionable wealth which Economic zionism has funneled to its few… The private armies (groups) are exact parallels of what happened in 1890s when corporations hired labor and so exploited in America that Labor had to arm itself each day in order to strike, because both government and private armies would otherwise kill the strikers.
    Antifa is the private army defending economic zionism against a reasonable quality of life for the governed.

    One the many failings of the Nation state system is its inability to consider the folks at the bottom to be treated as real people.. Always the nation states are made by those who control it, to be the enemy of the people its governs. All over the western globe this war between the governed and the monopoly power and wealth concentration in few that Nation state power defends is happening the right of the rich to rule is being challenged and even the right to be rich is being challenged. Everyone is entitled to fair place in the world during his or her lifetime. .

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  47. Once again, there is nothing new under the sun. These Antifa punks are nothing more than a rehashing of the Weather Underground, those inglorious bastards and basterdets that raised so much hell in the the late 60’s and early 70’s. Their hero was Chairmin Mao and they favored his tactics for cultural revolution.

    This quote is from “Prairie Fire”, the Weather Underground manifesto:

    “The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war. Revolution is the most powerful resource of the people. To wait, to not prepare people for the fight, is to seriously mislead about what kind of fierce struggle lies ahead. Revolutionary war will be complicated and protracted. It includes mass struggle and clandestine struggle, peaceful and violent, political and economic, cultural and military, where all forms are developed in harmony with the armed struggle. Without mass struggle there can be no revolution. Without armed struggle there can be no victory. It will not be immediate, for the enemy is entrenched and intractable. It will require lengthy, deliberate political and armed struggle to build the organized power of the people and to wear away at the power of the enemy. Many people have given their lives in this struggle and many more will have to. Paradoxically, this protracted struggle is the shortest and least costly road to revolution.”

    For those who wish to see how this is the same old play, different act:https://www.sds-1960s.org/PrairieFire-reprint.pdf

    P.S. I must say many of these Weatherman are turning in their graves at the “pussification” of the Communist movement in Amerika known as Antifa.

    Weather Underground Pentagon bombing 19 March 1972, Ho Chi Minh’s birthday.

    • Replies: @S
  48. n230099 says:

    Plus, here’s a picture of dead people! Look at this picture! These people are dead!

    “A man’s got to know his limitations.”**

    **Harry Callahan

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  49. onebornfree says: • Website

    Bottom Line: Socialism Version 1 vs Socialism Version 2

    Anti-Fa vs. the “Trumpites” = communism vs. fascism.

    In other words, the US is indeed now a fascist state. [Anti-Fa gets at least that much right]

    See: “The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America” https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2770492-the-rise-of-the-fourth-reich

    However, since fascism, as an economic system, is merely a minor variation on the grand theme of the economic system known as “communism” or “socialism” [Hitler even said as much], and Anti-Fa is basically communist, all that we have here is the grand spectacle of two groups of socialists, that is, two groups of competing useful idiots intent on enforcing [via government] their own particular brand of socialist idiocy on everyone else.

    It’s simply a case of socialism brand 1 vs socialism brand 2.

    Whichever brand “wins” , all we’ll get is more socialism [ie more enforced-at-the- point-of-a-gun idiocy], and an even bigger government.

    “Stupid is as stupid does” . And so it goes….

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  50. Saggy says: • Website

    Language is important, and the demonization of Nazis, along with the holohoax, are the foundation of the Jewish world view that dominates the American mind.

    The reality is that the Nazis were the only serious opposition the Anglo-Zionist empire has faced in the last 100 years.

    The Nazis were the good guy in WW II. The west was poking Hitler in 1939 just the way the US is poking Iran now. Read ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Make a War About Nothing’, written in 1936 by Wyndham Lewis …

    [MORE]

    Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism.

    No British statesman has ever desired a war with Germany. But they have apparently come to regard themselves as committed to a policy which is violently determined to rid Europe of Hitler. And they are well aware that that cannot be effected without the risk of another world-war. It is not so much ‘fascist dictatorship’ that excites them — for after all they left Mussolini in complete peace for a decade. Neither does Dictatorship , in itself, excite them so much as all that — even accompanied by a permanent Reign of Terror and the massacre of millions of people. For Soviet Russia has been left undisturbed. No, it can only be something about the internal regime of Adolf Hitler that excites in them this implacable mood.

    The Franco-Soviet pact has been ratified and it is highly probable that a Rumano-Soviet pact, on the lines of the military pact between the Soviet and Czechoslovakia, will be signed in the near future. The Austrian Government (which represents a fantastically small fraction of the people of Austria) seems to be moving towards an entente with the Little Entente. So the game of ‘encirclement’ goes on: and all these arrangements — carried on in every case over the heads and usually in contradiction to the wishes of the people — are made possible, and constantly stimulated by British and French gold. The remarks which I have quoted from the Morning Post mean, in plain language, that Great Britain is about to arm the Soviet against Germany. (Marshal Tukachevski stopped behind in England after the funeral of King George to go round the British armament factories to pick his tanks and guns.) There have constantly been rumours of a fifty million pounds British loan to France. That, too, in plain language, is Great Britain arming France against ‘the Hun’

    There is one country where the Englishman is certain of a warm welcome: there is one country whose government never ceases to proffer friendship, and to be accommodating and polite, and that is Germany. Year in and year out, like a love-sick supplicant, Herr Hitler pays his court to the haughty Britannia. Every insult that can be invented even by the resourceful Mr. Churchill is tamely swallowed, every rebuff of Mr. Baldwin’s, every sneer of Mr. Eden, is meekly accepted, by this pertinacious suitor!

    Read ‘The Unnecessary War’ by Buchanan. Watch this clip from a speech by Hitler, and read the video description to see what followed (and let me know if you can a vid of the entire speech)… title of the vid … “Hitler mocks Roosevelt” …


    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  51. Realist says:
    @The scalpel

    That would just lead to an increased prevalence of trick-or-treating or similar dodges

    Only an idiot would fall for such a ruse.

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
  52. I suspect many Antifas are just doing it for the money and are getting paid by someone. There should be investigation to discover the flow of money. Like those FBI charts of the mafia. Not likely, but the paymasters could be sued for soliciting criminal acts.

    Stop paying the soldiers and the whole army deserts.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  53. Realist says:
    @Jake

    And Antifa is backed by our Deep State, by a number of billionaires, by the ‘Ivy League’ class of academics and their journalists peers, and the politicians beholden to them.

    Yes. indeed. The ‘people’ in this country have no power….they just think they do. In Russia and China the ‘people’ have very little power, but at least the leaders care a little about them.

    Democracy never works, for long, it allows idiots to vote.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Johnny Rico
  54. armeee says:

    Sounds like the hasbara cubicle corps – “getting paid by someone”.

  55. aandrews says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “Just shows the perception these alt-righters have to overcome….”

    You should choose an example more relevant than the Peloponnesian War.

  56. Huey Long supposedly said: “Fascism? Will America get fascism? Yes, America will get fascism, but it will come in the form of anti-fascism.”

    • Replies: @Republic
  57. Amon says:
    @A123

    Trump isn’t a Christian, he is a crypto jew abusing your faith to fund the war on whites and white cultures.

    Reject the globohomo president and his zoinist agenda if you want to save America.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  58. As someone rightly pointed out on another thread, the US regime is not fascist, it is much worse. Fascists of all stripes did some populist things to get the little guy on their side. They forced greedy corporations to share, so that the little guy got some crumbs from their table. The US regime is fascist only politically – the uniformity of “opinion” in MSM is about the same as under Hitler in Nazi Germany. But in economics it is 100% behind the robber barons and against the little guy. Hence its support of immigration: cheap workforce and additional consumers for the corporations. The ideas of “equality”, “anti-racism”, and others borrowed from liberals of old today have nothing to do with liberalism. These empty slogans are just the lipstick fat cats put on this particular pig, a fig leaf to mask their naked greed.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @Parfois1
  59. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    said:
    “I wonder how many Americans think: “My grandfather went all the way to Europe to fight the goddamn Nazis, and now we’re supposed to let them congregate on our streets?” I can imagine that most non-political normies would have little sympathy for these alt-right protesters, even some gay Chinese bloke getting battered and robbed. How many ordinary people do you know that if you told them that some “fascist” got beaten up wouldn’t reply with: “Serves him right!”?”

    – That falsely assumes that Germany did what it is accused of.
    – Those “grandfathers” were duped big time, many died because of the propaganda that was shoved down their gullible throats.

    said:
    “I’m all for free speech and free expression but let’s not fool ourselves here.”

    – Don’t try to fool us with such nonsense. You and your left are utterly opposed to any free speech which upsets the Communist narrative. You / they use the absurdly impossible “holocaust” narrative as a rationale to persecute and deny people their right to free speech.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  60. LarryS says:
    @WorkingClass

    The German antifa of the 1930’s were Bolsheviks determined to take over Germany. They would harass and beat up citizens who attended nationalist political meetings. Just like today.

    Yes, Hitler formed the Brown Shirts to fight back against the antifa thugs.

    So, you are guilty by association, little Hitlers, if you resist antifa. They define fascist as anyone who opposes antifa.

    • Replies: @Republic
  61. c matt says:
    @WorkingClass

    Without government protection they wouldn’t exist.

    • Replies: @Anon
  62. @alexander

    Absolutely correct. It’s what I was trying to say, but you said it better.

    • Replies: @alexander
  63. S says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Without armed struggle there can be no victory. It will not be immediate, for the enemy is entrenched and intractable. It will require lengthy, deliberate political and armed struggle to build the organized power of the people and to wear away at the power of the enemy. Many people have given their lives in this struggle and many more will have to.

    The above excerpt, while intended to fire up a Communist type of the US Weather Underground of the Vietnam era, could just have easily been used to fire up a defacto Capitalist US soldier in Korea or Vietnam.

    Anyhow, the now weaponized/radicalized Democratic party and the ‘Antifa’ types may well have their chance with a Red October type of event accompanied with a Russian ‘Civil War’ (circa 1920) scenario in the United States.

    I put ‘Civil War’ in quotes as I see that term as a misnomer when applied to Russia and ‘Allied intervention’ then, and Vietnam later with US and Anglosphere (Capitalists), and Soviet, and Red Chinese (Communists) intervention, seeing both so called ‘civil wars’ rather as part of the larger manufactured and contrived Capitalist vs Communist dialectic’s global ‘struggle’ and their associated joint war against identity.

    The big losers, whether Capitalist or Communist ‘wins’, is the historic physical and cultural identity of the people(s) involved. Ultimately humanity as a whole is the loser.

    I think the people’s of the world, and humanity as a whole, have got big problems that need working on too, but not the way these guys have been going about it since 1776 and 1789.

    The ‘cure’ is worse than the ‘disease’.

    South Vietnamese child ‘soldier’ standing amidst the ruins of what had been his home town, May, 1968.

    • Replies: @S
  64. @Amon

    Sure. Just give us something better than Trump and we’ll be all over it.

  65. padre says:
    @Kirt

    What isyour pint, and how do you know mob of hundreds were leftists?I don’t think taht the expression even existed at that time!

  66. Seventy-five years ago it was Nazis vs. Communist Jews. Last week it’s still Nazis vs. Communist Jews, aka Antifa. In both cases the bad guys won/are winning.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  67. @Commentator Mike

    What does what “people think” have to do with anything?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  68. @Savior General

    You believe the menace of Hollywood propaganda is Chinese?

  69. @n230099

    Good thing someone was on hand with a good quality camera to get pics from several angles first before some bystander panicked and impulsively tried to drag a drowning baby out of the water.

  70. S says:
    @S

    I should add to the previous post, that we should expect to see as part of this manufactured and contrived Capitalists vs Communist dialectic, the ‘Fall of Capitalism’, ie the economic collapse of the US/UK and the West, and an associated looting of the remnants of that economic system (the worker being worthy of his wages those behind these things tell themselves) of which there’s already been some evidence of in 2001 and 2008.

    As with the top down, somewhat deceptively termed, late 20th century ‘Fall of Communism’ involving the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc, there will still be gigantic chunks of Capitalism floating about, most likely in general in the superior position as it relates to Communism.

    The ‘fall’ of the 1776 Capitalist ‘thesis’, and the 1789 Communist ‘anti-thesis’, is to make way (after a presumed WWIII cataclysm) for the theoretical ‘synthesis’ of the two closely paralleling ideologies, to form global ‘Multi-Culturalism’. A world state is then likely to be ‘ushered in’ that in theory will be a global ‘democratic republic’ called the ‘United States of the World’/’World Union’ or some such.

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/revolution_and_counter_revolution

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

  71. @Hippopotamusdrome

    should be investigation to discover the flow of money

    I suspect the club-and-milkshake goons are “paid” in various kinds of illegal/prescription-only drugs. Hard to trace back from streetlevel to those who obviously have warehouses full of the stuff, and who already control the traffik.
    Also makes it easy to “overdose” any minions who might start to have ideas of their own i.e. crimethink/deviationism. They’ll be found decomposing behind/in a dumpster.

  72. @Commentator Mike

    I wonder how many Americans think: “My grandfather went all the way to Europe to fight the goddamn Nazis, and now we’re supposed to let them congregate on our streets?”

    Except those people in the streets are not Nazis. Nazis were a discredited, defeated German socio-political movement. There are no Nazis lurking under your bed or in da’streetz. The guys in the US streets are not even wearing swastikas or goosestepping in shiny jack boots to polkas.

    Those guys in the streets have more politically in common with the soldiers who landed on the beaches at Normandy or Iwo- Jima. You know, the guys who actually went to war with and killed real Nazis. Doubt many of them if alive today would would don lame vader masks and burn flags and trash Starbucks.

  73. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Realist

    Depends on how it is done, or a variation on the theme is done. Anyway, nobody has to fall for it. Do you think they “fall for” the “blue flu”? It just has to add plausible deniability so that prosecution gets tied up in court. That is how nonviolent resistance works. To be clear, I am NOT a fan of Antifa.

    • Replies: @Realist
  74. Republic says:
    @hammersmith

    Sinclair Lewis said, When fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

    1935

    • Replies: @Anon
  75. Republic says:
    @LarryS

    these conflicts should be called, leftists vs nationalists

    never let the opposition define the terms

  76. @Wally

    I’m writing about popular perception and not about what may or may not have been. You should get out more and talk to ordinary people instead of hanging out all the time at UR and CODOH.

    Tommy Robinson neither denies the holocaust nor verbally attacks the Jews and look at what happened to him. He could even end up getting killed in prison for views much milder than those you promote. I am not going to tell people to stick their neck out just so it gets chopped for whatever little or no benefit to whatever cause or themselves. But you are welcome to do that if you so wish and if you truly hold the views you claim to hold. We’re supposed to all charge at flying bullets just because Wally says so and he’s not even there to lead the charge.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Parfois1
  77. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Just shows the perception these alt-righters have to overcome if they’re going to be accepted by the general public.

    You are referring to the general White public, as no one else matters in your context.

    The General White public is de facto Alt Right. See the voting distribution in the 2016 election. The people who put Trump in office are, by definition, normies according to their status as the White majority. Most of those that didn’t vote for Trump merely aren’t yet under enough threat. Excluding crypto non-Whites in the statistics skews our percentage higher still.

    Few people actually want to see their race disempowered or wiped out. Those that think that it doesn’t matter are isolated by a collapsing buffer between their families and oblivion, and will come to our side in the future.

    I wonder how many Americans think: “My grandfather went all the way to Europe to fight the goddamn Nazis, and now we’re supposed to let them congregate on our streets?”

    Most infantry were from the lower to middle White class that is today Alt Right: as significant intergenerational class movement is the exception rather than the rule.

    Our grandfathers did not go to Europe to end the possibility of future existence or even the dominant status of their race in the United States. They mostly went because they were exceptionally low information poor proles who naively trusted the Jew controlled media and their rudimentary propaganda. The Great Depression softened them in this regard.

    They proceeded to engage in fratricide to the detriment of their children and for the benefit of hostile races who hate them. Their participation is not to be sanctified and praised but condemned, whether the end results were then obvious to them or not.

    What the Jewish press won’t tell you is about the social protest within the United States at the time against its participation against its brothers and cousins in Germany. Protest that was much more difficult to vocalize in an age with no internet and threatening internment camps.

    Successful propaganda and oppression in one generation does not mandate new morality in the next.

    I can imagine that most non-political normies would have little sympathy for these alt-right protesters, even some gay Chinese bloke getting battered and robbed.

    See above. The population that is everywhere but the coasts would love any excuse to hang every antifa member that they could find off of a bridge, given any excuse to include the battering of a sympathetic Asian.

    How many ordinary people do you know that if you told them that some “fascist” got beaten up wouldn’t reply with: “Serves him right!”?

    I suppose that would depend if you first defused the Judeo-communist propaganda word that you are using to elicit a propaganda-programmed emotional response. Most people, on either side, would not be able to accurately define fascist or communist. It follows that labeling someone with a hot word to illicit a response will not lead to accurate polling results. If you think that it will, instead poll the heartland whether they would rather see a communist or fascist beaten up, with no room for an in-between answer.

    Alternately, tell them that a Trump voter, American Nationalist, or defender against anti-White racism (all more accurate than the NYT programmed implications that the word fascist carries) got beaten up to gain your most accurate response in the survey.

    The fact is that most of the nation rightly detests communists, negroes, Hispanics, and Jewish Supremacy if not Jews as a general group (even when including Jews in their theology). You can dance around that fact by using propaganda words to foll the rubes or convincing yourself of an ahitorical social fantasy about how Whites want to sacrifice themselves to diversity, but you are only fooling yourself. There is no need to come here to vainly try to convince us of the delusion that you personally depend on.

    I’m all for free speech and free expression but let’s not fool ourselves here.

    “I’m all for Free Speech but…” seems to be the hot phrase for modern anti-White Bolshevism.

  78. @John Q Public

    Nothing other than chart the reality you have to work within to change what they think. I doubt one person or a few like minded people can do much if the majority holds opposing views.

  79. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Republic

    Sinclair Lewis said, When fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

    1935

    Quoting a Far Left alcoholic fiction writer, with time in a psychiatric hospital, against the Christian population in this nation does far more damage to your position than it helps.

    You seem to be vulnerable to the fallacy that some left wing lauded writer that you once heard of has some kind of moral authority, or that he is otherwise some kind of mythical hero whose words mean anything whatsoever.

    There is no nation without the flag, or arguably the cross. As we can observe by its deterioration on most levels. I and most will take this nation over avoiding your propaganda hot word “fascism”. Our mission here is not to avoid fascism but to preserve the United States and its high standard of living for the majority population that works for it.

  80. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @c matt

    Without government protection they wouldn’t exist.

    Absolutely true. This nation still works against the interests of its majority.

  81. S says:
    @Jake

    That is what mass immigration is all about. Mass immigration is the new cross Atlantic slave trade.

    Exactly so. It’s almost verbatim what the chief economic adviser to Abraham Lincoln concluded when he studied the matter in 1853:

    “It [so called ‘cheap labor’] is the slave trade of the last century reproduced on a grander scale…”

    It also might help to explain the unfortunate use of the term ‘stock’ (ie ‘migrant stock’) when applied to the ‘immigrants’ they claim to care so much about.

    The term stock, as it is foremost defined by Oxford Dictionary, means ‘merchandise’.

    Chattel slavery and it’s trade were monetized, and not abolished, with the introduction of the so called cheap labor/mass immigration system.

    Stock:

    NOUN-

    1) The goods or merchandise kept on the premises of a shop or warehouse and available for sale or distribution.

    Ie ‘the store has a very low turnover of stock’.

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/slavery_on_a_grander_scale

    https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/data/estimates2/estimates15.asp

    https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/stock

  82. @patrick kelly

    You don’t need to convince me about that but most of the general public. If everybody, or a majority, thought like you do then things wouldn’t be the way they are.

    Just look at what happened at UTR: the city administration and the police were behind the antifa, as were probably many, if not most, of the ordinary people in the city, otherwise their city representatives would have taken a different approach, or the judge and jury would have after the event. What percentage of the inhabitants of Charlottesville do you think were on the side of the alt-right or cared that they weren’t real Nazis or fascists? It’s all about having credibility with the general population if you don’t have the power to put your ideas into practice.

    OK, I’m just guessing but until there are some poll figures out there about what the public think about the alt-right, and whether the terms fascist, Nazi or neo-Nazi should be used to describe its adherents, all I have to go on is what I hear ordinary people say. Even if you just oppose immigration or LGBT Pride parades in general conversation, without having any ideological outlook, you’re still likely to be so labelled. And I’d venture a guess that if you do express such views, most normies won’t call you an alt-righter, alt-liter, rightist, nationalist, patriot but will straight out call you a fascist or a Nazi. You should try it out sometimes. And do it forcefully, and be unwavering and steadfast, then get back to us here at UR about how they respond.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  83. Realist says:
    @The Scalpel

    It just has to add plausible deniability so that prosecution gets tied up in court.

    Not if the law is written clearly.

    • LOL: The Scalpel
  84. @alexander

    Antifa will get a free pass from liberal elites and their media while Literally Hitler Trump is in office. But there is no way they will tolerate these retarded wannabe commie clowns beating people up in the street and vandalizing newspaper boxes and bus stop shelters when President Biden or any other establishment approved Democrat or Republican president takes over. The left is extemely gullible and naive and doesn’t seem to realize that the nonstop hysteria over the “fascist president” is media orchestrated theater.

    When the NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC stop screaming about impending fascism all the Vox and HuffPo “journalists” will follow suit and the excitable morons on Twitter who get their cues from these assholes will shut up too…until the next totally spontaneous and “organic” and not at all manufactured outrage takes hold.

    This whole Trump hysteria episode shows how easily people can essentially be hypnotized by remote control. Anyone who is dumb enough to trust any part of the MSM and take it at face value can be “activated” in this manner. Americans are the most propagandized people on earth.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  85. @patrick kelly

    Except those people in the streets are not Nazis…have more politically in common with the soldiers who landed on the beaches at Normandy or Iwo- Jima …

    Technically, a 1940s American would seem Nazi-like in attitudes to a contemporary normie.

    Nixon: “The Jews are Born Spies”

    Loving v. Virginia

    The case was brought by Mildred Loving (née Jeter), a woman of color, and Richard Loving, a white man, who had been sentenced to a year in prison in Virginia for marrying each other. Their marriage violated Virginia’s Racial Integrity Act of 1924

    Anti-miscegenation laws in the United States

    In December 1912 and January 1913, Representative Seaborn Roddenbery (Democrat of Georgia) again introduced a proposal in the House of Representatives to insert a prohibition of miscegenation into the US Constitution … “Intermarriage between negros or persons of color and Caucasians… within the United States… is forever prohibited.”

    Perez v. Sharp

    The County Clerk, …refused to issue the license based on California Civil Code, Section 60: “All marriages of white persons with Negroes, Mongolians, members of the Malay race, or mulattoes are illegal and void”

    Anti-miscegenation laws in the United States

  86. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    I respectfully believe people have the God given right of self defense by whatever means they choose despite what the law says.

    Self defense. Certainly. Laws like Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” help a great deal.

    The problem becomes, even are legally & morally right, the Fake Stream Media would give you the George Zimmerman propaganda treatment. Look what happened after he saved himself when a druggie robber was beating his head against concrete pavement.

    Idealism is not a bad thing. However, I would suggest tempering with reality based on what the world is really like. The neo-Nazi DNC and their Facist media allies have far too much power in the police and court system to taken lightly. Sadly, reality does look like this:

    PEACE

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  87. @A123

    You’re suggesting a compromise with the notoriously insane leftists. That has been the tactic for decades and has produced what we have today. Sorry, but I’m of the ‘take no prisoners’ position on this topic.

    I’ll even go further. I want to eliminate the absolutely useless ‘police’. Numerous court decisions have affirmed that the police have NO duty to protect the citizenry. Just Google it. Given that FACT, what good are they to the average person? They work for the filth in gov’t that pays their salaries, nothing more. They are the enforcers of ridiculous laws and are responsible for hundreds of civilian deaths per year as they ‘do their job’ enforcing laws that shouldn’t even exist. They protect the political class.

    As a group, the police are people that like to use violence as part of their persona and have no otherwise marketable skills. They are part of the trash in the society that the gov’t has awarded the special privilege of abusing the citizenry with special laws written to protect them. If the average citizen was armed there would be no use for these cretins and they would either be on welfare or possibly find honest work. Ditto the military.

  88. @Squarebeard

    You really nailed it. The stupidity of the NPC’s is bottomless. The way they eat up the (((MSM))) propaganda is truly astonishing. The huge irony is that Trump is really just a Democrat businessman. He’s closer to antifa than to Hitler, and his shiksa daughter and her nosy husband are icing on the cake.

  89. peterAUS says:
    @sally

    People, a?
    You pointed to some problems. I guess you are mostly correct there.
    So…what would be a solution of yours? Say….you are in Trump’s place, for example.
    What would you do?

    A little online mental exercise if you will.

  90. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    Democracy never works, for long, it allows idiots to vote.

    Yep.

    Now, how to filter the idiots out could be a challenge. Or, WHO creates and controls the process of finding/excluding the idiots from the voting process?

    • Replies: @Realist
  91. @Anon

    I hope you’re right but it’s a long way from finding expression other than voting for Trump. The “but” is not me having reservations about free speech but the fact that it is being criminalised and suppressed by those that are in control.

    • Replies: @Wally
  92. Jason Liu says:

    If there was actual fascism Antifa would be disbanded by the government and their members thrown in jail or cowering in their houses afraid of brownshirts beating them up

    really makes you think

  93. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The usual desperate projection & lies galore.

    said:
    “I’m writing about popular perception and not about what may or may not have been. You should get out more and talk to ordinary people instead of hanging out all the time at UR and CODOH.”

    – As proven by your initial comment in this thread, you put in quotes what you imagine is ‘perception’.
    However what you believe was not in quotes and I busted you on it.

    – Your attacks on irrefutable Revisionist research proves that you are in bed with Zionists.

    – Look who pretends to be speaking for “ordinary people”, you, a discredited Communist.

    – And look who spends half his life at UR, you. LOL

  94. Wally says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    The fact is that you loath free speech which goes against your leftist agenda.
    You rationalize it by making childish references to WWII propaganda and what YOU say the general population thinks. All from the hasbarist / Marxist playbook.

    You’re fooling no one here.

    new:
    Faked Medical Experiment Testimony at Nuremberg: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12590

    • Replies: @bluedog
  95. @Realist

    There are different forms of democracy.

    Some of them work. Some of them work well.

    Some have worked better than other types of government in the last 300 years.

    There is a lot more to a democracy than WHO is allowed to vote.

    Of equal or greater importance are both who is allowed to run and the continual regular rotation of those in power.

    Consider than Putin will have been in power for about the same length of time as Stalin.

    Bitch all you want about Roosevelt, but he was only in power for half that time. The same amount of time it took Hitler to annihilate Germany.

    And Hitler, contrary to popular misconception, was not elected democratically. He was brought to power by being appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg who disliked him, and by choice, not law, in a process that was ironically meant to keep him out of power.

  96. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    Now, how to filter the idiots out could be a challenge. Or, WHO creates and controls the process of finding/excluding the idiots from the voting process?

    End democracy.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  97. @Anon

    The fact is that most of the nation rightly detests communists, negroes, Hispanics, and Jewish Supremacy if not Jews as a general group (even when including Jews in their theology).

    You have to understand that there was an intense and sincere effort by most of the White population to accept these various groups as one of themselves. The “white flight” was not a flight from different races, it was a flight from physical assault and general harassment.
    That changed during the Obama presidency, when these groups for which so much money had been spent, so much blood been spilled (before the survivors moved), “gracious understanding by the 55 gallon drum and patience by the long ton” as Lafferty described it, declared that they (a) hated Whites (b) had always hated Whites, (c) considered Whites to be indelibly stained with the sin (this from non-Christians, many of whom did not believe in original sin) and Atheists), and finally (d) intended cultural genocide on every last White population on earth.

    Whites can’t take a joke, I guess.

    Counterinsurgency

  98. tosmon says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Our forefathers would prefer transvestite parades in the street? Because that’s what we have now.

  99. tosmon says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Why is the rotation of leaders considered a good thing? If you have a good thing going why stop it?

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  100. alexander says:
    @Nosquat Loquat

    You said it very darn well, …but thank you.

  101. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    So….hehehe..how the people in power get that into that position?
    And, yes, as “Rico” pointed out, what’re the criteria, the system, they stay there?

    I guess it boils down to fundamentals:
    Humans are creatures prone to making bad mistakes. Power corrupts. Humans get old and fragile.

    So, how to get into power people better than the rest and, yes, how to be sure they don’t overstay it? Or they stay there as long as they are good enough (taking rule 1 and 2 into account).

    Hard questions. No clue about answers. Practical, for today’s world.
    And even if I had, a big deal.
    This system ain’t going anywhere soon.

    • Replies: @Realist
  102. @Realist

    Why are protesters allowed to wear uniforms and particularly masks???

    It’s called “paramilitary” when it happens outside US jurisdictions. It’s essentially an armed Non Governmental Organization (NGO), like the Red Cross except with clubs and masks. They used to be used (and apparently still are) extensively in South American. The idea is to have a government controlled force with plausible deniability. Of course, everybody know who’s calling the shots, but legally nobody knows.
    Note that Antifa (AF henceforth) operates only in areas of hard left government — West Coast cities north of LA, Charlottesville, Washington (District of Columbia), and similar, and operates there with the cooperation of local police, local courts and local administration.
    Paramilitary sometimes keeps an ideology or ruling group in power and sometime doesn’t. It’s always something of a measure of desperation, an admission that some segment of the population is so far in revolt that legal force can’t suppress it, and that the general population won’t support suppression by martial law. It’s best understood as an attempt to prevent unorganized general discontent from growing into something that could threaten the existing government by destroying leaders / organizers of the discontent _without admitting that the government is executing the destruction_. Fits AF to a T.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  103. Parfois1 says:
    @Cyrano

    Fairy tales, legends and fables often speak the truth once upon a time. This one speaks for a time yet to come but very soon.

    I doubt the 3rd worlders will become a united opposition to the capitalists, though. Some chosen ones are already being groomed and placed at the top of the table as honorary capitalist, as had been done with the negroes: give them a few more crumbles from the pie and they will betray their own races. That was the purpose of multiculturalism: create the illusion that anyone can grab the “American dream”.

  104. haaretz.com:

    Antifa in America: Militant Anti-fascism Isn’t Terrorism, It’s Self-defense

    After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa have been branded as ‘violent gangs,’ even ‘terrorists.’ Those definitions are completely wrong
    Stanislav Vysotsky Jul 03, 2019 4:25 PM

    The controversy over militant anti-fascism has returned. With #antifa and #antifaterrorists trending on Twitter, there is renewed debate about the tactics of militant anti-fascism.

  105. @Nosquat Loquat

    If they were real anti-fascists, they would be fighting the police and the government (indeed both wings of the duopoly), and the already present police state. The fact that they are not, shows that Antifa are frauds. A front organization.

    The “hippies”, “yipies” and “zipies” (all real groups), almost all the groups the media hyped back in the late 1960s were actors, no more [1]. Those that weren’t actors were religious fanatics [2].

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie
    2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Seven Note complicity of government / judicial system in the outcome of the trial.
    c.f. trials of the rioting AF in DC during Trump’s inauguration (AF failed to stop the inauguration parade, a fairly good sign that they were simply actors at that time and place).
    c.f. “The Indie 500”.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  106. Parfois1 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    As someone rightly pointed out on another thread, the US regime is not fascist, it is much worse. Fascists of all stripes did some populist things to get the little guy on their side. They forced greedy corporations to share, so that the little guy got some crumbs

    Very true. Classical Fascism was based on the principles of a mutually appreciation society where capital and the stated exchanged benefits and also obligations: the stated protected the capitalist class but also imposed on it some social obligations such as employment security, subsidized canteen meals, safety regulations, healthcare, etc.

    The newer USA Fascism is of the neoliberal variety, let the market decide on the distribution of the crumbs. The capitalists get the protection but are obligation-free.

  107. Proud boys are pro-Israel and worship Trump the God emperor, many of them are mercs.
    Probably the goal of this whole antifa vs Proud boys psyop will be to eventually ban any kind of protests, or label anyone out protesting a “terrorist”, seems to be the way its moving.

    The right wingers at the “free speech” rally don’t have much to say about the Anti-BDS laws being passed, or Florida equating criticism of Israel or Zionists with antisemitism, more states to come. Hard to take them seriously if they only care about their own rights, and no one else’s.

    Don’t think you could call Trump a “fascist”, he loves capitalism, being a capitalist himself. I’ve never heard him criticize capitalism, Trump looks to be just a puppet of the “international financiers” or Wall St capitalists. I don’t think “fascism” could exist in America since our “state” has pretty much been bought by capitalists and only does the bidding of capital. We have the richest congress in history, made up of nothing but rich capitalists,working 24/7 to make their billionaire buddies even richer, they don’t give a shit about the country or its people. We basically have no govt. left. The “fascists” at least had a bit of love for their countries and its wellbeing, that doesn’t exist here anymore. Trump is just another obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan……..

    • Replies: @albionrevisited
  108. @Squarebeard

    Antifa is not a response to Trump. Antifa is a nascent Red Army and it’s not going anywhere. They were holding formal military training before the 2016 election. They are funded, at least in part, by George Soros (remember when, after some event, they showed up en masse in front of Soros’ Fifth Ave apartment demanding the money they were owed?). George Soros, the genocidal civilization-slayer, is not going to disband his army of duped thugs just because Joe Biden takes office .

    The Podesta Wikileaks dump contains an email chain showing Soros, an academic acting as a representative of Israel, and Haim Saban colluding with the Clinton campaign to get her elected while hammering out her position on Israel.

  109. Parfois1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    We’re supposed to all charge at flying bullets just because Wally says so and he’s not even there to lead the charge.

    I have already suggested elsewhere that Wally deserves prime place at the front of the revolution to come. The last I’ve heard is that he declined the honour and a place in a memorial park.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  110. Parfois1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Even if you just oppose immigration or LGBT Pride parades in general conversation, without having any ideological outlook, you’re still likely to be so labelled [fascist]

    Very true. I (yours truly communist) have been called Nazi fascist for mentioning that Jews have taken control of Western European countries’ policies! No need to add the other heresies.

  111. Only one CYA snide put-down of the “alt right” in an entire piece, C.J.?

    You’re moving to the right, comrade, very troubling… And that Alexander Reid Ross or whatever his name is: that’s an ex-CounterPunch-comrade of yours, I recognize the name.

    Be honest now: if they let you back into the CP circles, wouldn’t you do an immediate 180 plus self-critique for catering to such a retrograde audience as we are on Unz?

    Have fun in Berlin, but I hear it’s getting insufferable there as well. I’m looking forward to observing your further political development.

  112. @Johnny Rico

    You destroyed your own argument.

    Putin is good for Russia, loves Russia, and the people know he is on their side.

    Franklin D Roosevelt was an evil sociopath who despised Americans.

    Time in power means nothing.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  113. @Saggy

    *SIGH* Saggy, you speak the truth.

  114. aandrews says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI2EHMy1lgs\

    “This was a major American city but it felt like I was in Afghanistan or Iraq….”

  115. @onebornfree

    “Anti-Fa is basically communist” Yup. And the conflict today is the same conflict as in the 1930’s. Except a certain someone is not given credit for trying to eradicate the Commies from Europe. Instead, the attempt at eradicating Commies is considered a war crime, a crime against humanity.

  116. @fnn

    Probably because most of those fit and young WW2 veterans agreed with much of what Rockwell was saying and knew the swastikas were an gimmick to get attention from the media.

  117. @redmudhooch

    I doubt it. Most of the Proud Boys are legitimate civnats and some are even undercover white nationalists. There are many people that still think playing this shell game will save them.

  118. @Johnny Rico

    88.1% of the German public supported the 1934 Referendum merging the offices of Chancellor and President, essentially making Hitler a dictator.

    The exact wording:

    The office of the President of the Reich is unified with the office of the Chancellor. Consequently all former powers of the President of the Reich are demised to the Führer and Chancellor of the Reich Adolf Hitler. He himself nominates his substitute.
    Do you, German man and German woman, approve of this regulation provided by this Law?

    • Replies: @Wally
  119. @Johnny Rico

    Of course you misrepresent the Hitler and Hindenburg relationship. Hitler’s party, the NSDAP, had the most seats in the Parliament after July 1932 but not a majority. Von Papen was chancellor and backed by Hindenburg. But he could not bring about any improvement in the crises affecting Germany; they needed Hitler’s party’s support. So Hindenburg and Von Papen decided to appoint Hitler Chancellor and Papen vice-chancellor, with restrictions they thought would keep Hitler in check. But Hitler was so effective as chancellor, he won over Hindenburg, who eventually became totally supportive of him.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  120. @Parfois1

    The bravest generals are ones who lead from the rear.

  121. @Cyrano

    Cyrano, I like your parable – it works well till the last paragraph, when some interesting issues emerge.
    Of course, the 3rd worlders are usually members of the working class — & as you correctly point out, they will try to get more of other workers’ pie using PC victim tactics. Elites may encourage this under the “divide & rule” strategy.
    So far — so good. Then this;
    “They might go after the knifes and the forks, eliminate from the table both the capitalists and the working class and keep it all for themselves.”
    Sorry, just can’t see it. Maybe in 100 years? And they won’t “eliminate” the capitalists, they’ll become the capitalists.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  122. @Wally

    “Next question:
    Who pays for all that coordinated gear?”
    Very good question.
    Reminds me of early isis (or whatever shit name they had then).
    Where’d they get the money for the endless parade of white Toyota SUV ‘s/ “trucks” ?
    Well, we have a pretty good NOW….

  123. @Greg Bacon

    They should be arrested for masturbating in public — they’re such wankers!

  124. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    This system ain’t going anywhere soon.

    Bold statement considering the current situation.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  125. Realist says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Some of them work. Some of them work well.

    But not for long.

    There is a lot more to a democracy than WHO is allowed to vote.

    ‘WHO is allowed to vote’ is a significant reason for it’s demise.

  126. aandrews says:

    “This was a major American city but it felt like I was in Afghanistan or Iraq….”

  127. @Counterinsurgency

    The “hippies”, “yipies” and “zipies” (all real groups), almost all the groups the media hyped back in the late 1960s were actors, no more [1]. Those that weren’t actors were religious fanatics [2].

    Groups like Weather Underground were filled with rabid Marxist who were willing to die for their cause. They were the real deal. And yes, of course the were funded by people like Soro’s and the “One Worlders” on wall street.

    “In a single 18 month period during 1971 and 1972 the FBI counted an amazing 2500 bombings on American soil, almost 5 a day.”

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  128. Cyrano says:
    @animalogic

    The point I was trying to make is that when the degenerate elites talk about their country being exceptional – they are not being inclusive. They think that what makes their country exceptional is – them, the elites.

    The elites believe that they are the owners of the country – based on their capital accumulation – and that the working class are merely the tenants – therefore replaceable. The only ones who are irreplaceable – are them, the elites.

    They believe that their “skills” and qualities are so out of ordinary, that when they totally replace the working class with the 3rd worlders – the 3rd worlders will keep them – the elites forever, because their qualities are so unique.

    That’s where the degeneracy comes into full focus. Even if that was true, even if the “qualities” of the present day elites are “exceptional”, the 3rd worlders will replace them, because the time for the rule of the white man would have definitely have passed by time the 3rd worlders become majority.

    The morons who initiated the “great replacement” think that the 3rd worlders will keep them forever as their rulers out of sense of gratitude for bringing them in. It’s not going to happen.

    Even if the “skills” of the present day elites are irreplaceable, the 3rd worlders will replace them with people of their own origin – despite, maybe the “qualities” of their own generated elites being somewhat lower. Anyone who doesn’t see that, needs to have their head examined.

  129. Wally says:
    @albionrevisited

    For historical accuracy please show us the original German document.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  130. schrub says:

    Is Antifa is controlled by the FBI, CIA, deep state?

    Not quite. It is being organized and trained by the newly re-formed Jewish Defense League (JDL) and is being funded by the supporters of the extremely violent JDL plus a few others which might include the ever present George Soros.

    How do I know this?

    I know this because I was watching Youtube in the early morning (about 2AM) after the day of the Charlottesville riot.

    I come upon a video that was shot during the riot there. A young and skinny Antifa member is shown surrounded by members of the alt right. He is yelling at them despite his precarious situation. The kid has managed to get himself encircled by the “enemy”.

    Suddenly from the right side of the screen a heavily built, much older white fellow suddenly comes out, apparently behind police lines. He then heads towards the beleaguered Antifa kid. This video shows the older, heavily built fellow is wearing a yellow tee shirt which is clearly seen when he momentarily swings the front of his body in the direction of the person doing the video-ing. The front of this shirt has a fist on it printed on the top of some sort of star.

    This fellow then wades into the crowd and grabs the Antifa kid from the back, encircling his waist. He then picks up and bodily carries the very surprised kid back through the police lines.

    While he is carrying the kid back , the person doing the video manages to get a clear view of the back of tee shirt when the older fellow pauses before re-rentering the police lines carrying the kid. . On the back of his shirt are clearly printed the initials JDL and the words Jewish Defense League. This older guy appears to have been the overseer/protector of the Antifa types. He has managed to has save the Antifa kid from a potentially dangerous situation.

    How a member of the notorious JDL was allowed within police lines is a story in and of itself and well worth investigating (which won’t be done).

    I sent out a link to friends to watch this rather revealing video at about 3AM but it had disappeared by 6AM, when the the first person attempting to retrieve it and was unsuccessful. It had almost instantly become “non-news” once Youtube’s censors had fully woken up.

    The JDL went out of favor a while back in both the USA and eventually in Israel because of its extreme violence including severe beatings and probable murders often using bombings. Congress (only very reluctantly) went after JDL in earnest when it was caught while planning the bombing the office of fellow member Congressman Darrel Issa whose family was from Lebanon and he was being overly sensitive about Israel bombing his relatives there.

    Bombing planners JDL leader Irv Rubin and JDL member Earl Krugel ended up in jail where they both conveniently “died”.

    Here is the history of the JDL and its activities. Sorta violent, huh? They sure love their bombs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League

    Here is the website of the newly reformed JDL for those who think it actually disappeared.

    http://www.jdl.org/

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  131. @schrub

    It is beyond belief how that little shit stain in the middle east has managed the complete take over of the United States. JDL to the left of me and CUFI to the right. What’s an American to do?

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  132. @Johnny Walker Read

    Spoken in Washington DC. “When your cause is Israel, you cannot fail”. 21:45 minute mark.

  133. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    Don’t think so.

    The most likely future for the West is some combination of Brasil and India, with a sprinkling of South Africa. Democracies.

    Say….90%.
    Let’s skip debating that topic here. Plenty of opportunities later.

    • Replies: @Realist
  134. @Johnny Walker Read

    Groups like Weather Underground were filled with rabid Marxist who were willing to die for their cause. They were the real deal. And yes, of course the were funded by people like Soro’s and the “One Worlders” on wall street.

    Those are who I meant when I wrote “Those that weren’t actors were religious fanatics”.

    The “religious fanatic” part is important because they never had a chance to win — too isolated. Also, e they were not very good with explosives, “making a statement” rather than doing serious physical damage such as bringing down buildings, destroying or disabling important bridges, causing mass casualties in politically important groups, and so forth.

    In that sense (no chance to win) even the religious fanatics were actors, permitting the Federal Government to do pretty much what it wanted while they were active, rather than a real revolutionary organization.

    Counterinsurgency

  135. @Carolyn Yeager

    Oooooh! Look who changed her mind about replying to my comments!

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  136. @Cyrano

    They might go after the knifes and the forks, eliminate from the table both the capitalists and the working class and keep it all for themselves.

    After which, there will never be another pie.

  137. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    That’s…….a touch too easy.

    What’s your (most likely) scenario/prediction for the next…say…20 years?

    • Replies: @Realist
  138. @Carolyn Yeager

    Uhhhhm, no. It was you who decided to take your toys and go home.

    I misrepresented nothing. And your comment about Von Papen and Hindenburg does nothing to dispute that history but only confirms it. Duh.

    This is history related by THE two best German analysts of Hitler’s life, not David Irving or you.

    If anything is misrepresented it only appears that way on whatever angry planet you inhabit.

    Now off with you, haha.

  139. @tosmon

    Because you want a safety valve built into the system that will allow a stop to be put to a BAD thing going. Even if it is at the expense of stopping good things when you have them going.

    There are few instances in life where this general rule is followed. But where it is, is has been observed to be a superior way of doing things.

    That, at least, is my observation and experience.

  140. @Craig Nelsen

    Hilarious. Everything means nothing, when you really get down to it. Thanks for sharing.

  141. @Wally

    It is is inscribed over the gate leading into Auschwitz.

  142. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    What’s your (most likely) scenario/prediction for the next…say…20 years?

    The Western countries lose their prominence in the world to mostly higher IQ Asian countries i.e. China, Japan and Korea. Those Asian countries have very little ‘diversity’ and in the case of China very little democracy (allowing idiots to vote).
    The US and Europe will continue to internally bicker about insignificant issues, distracting the lower IQ populace from supporting research into discoveries of importance to humanity such as DNA research. While, in the past, Western Civilization has made tremendous advancements in medicine, science and engineering. Those accomplishments were from a pretty small percent of the population. Most of the population worked hard and didn’t get involved in things they didn’t understand. Today every dumbass ‘thinks’ he/she is a genius and their opinion must be acted on.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  143. That was so goddamn EPIC! You win interweb tubez for today comrade. An increase in beet rations for you. Forward!

  144. Richard B says:
    @Anon

    Excellent. One of the best comment responses I’ve ever read at Unz.

    The only thing I don’t agree with is “The General White public is de facto Alt Right.”

    This is about Race and Culture not ideology. Plus, the Communists have successfully saddled the Alt-Right. Limiting ourselves to the Alt-Right is like forcing failure. It’s just plain asking for it.

    They’re demonzing and pathologizing the entire White race, not just the Alt-Right.

    So we should respond as a Race. Not as Alt-Right, and definitely not as Nat-Soc, etc.

    They’re throwing White babies from 3rd story shopping mall railings and from their baskets in supermarket parking lots. They’re not asking if they’re Alt-Right first.

    Correspondingly, if I were to see you or any White person being attacked I would rush to your defense whether or not you were Alt-Right.

    Anyway, you get the idea. I think our chances are better if we keep the focus on Race and Culture.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  145. Richard B says:
    @A123

    “I respectfully discourage this type of thinking… one does not want to sink to the level of George Soros and his willing sock puppets in an attempt to defeat them.”

    Yeah, by all means, let’s reason with them. Since they’ve obviously proven themselves to be reasonable and willing to listen.

    File your comment under “Self-Parody.”

    Who are you? Way Of The World? Sound like him.

    The Fact Is, We’re An Occupied Territory!

    And the only way to liberate an occupied territory is with aggression.

    You’re not the only one out there still looking for an easier, softer way. But there isn’t one.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  146. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    The Western countries lose their prominence in the world to mostly higher IQ Asian countries i.e. China, Japan and Korea.

    I see.

    • Replies: @Realist
  147. peterAUS says:
    @Richard B

    Yeah, by all means, let’s reason with them. Since they’ve obviously proven themselves to be reasonable and willing to listen.

    Well, why not, actually.
    You simply leave, say…80% of “alt-whatevers” to keep reasoning with them. Whatever.
    The thing is …what that 20 % is supposed to be doing.

    See, there was an an….ahm…some consensus reached by some people, apparently, believing they are “alt-whatever” leadership, where they decided that the way forward was/is definitely non-violent.
    Can’t disagree it makes sense for them, for several reasons. Some of those, say, of monetary value.

    That we, proles of “alt-whatever”, need to follow that advice is just funny.

    We’re An Occupied Territory!

    Yes.

    And the only way to liberate an occupied territory is with aggression.

    Smart, careful, well thought out and surgical aggression.
    Now….don’t know how long you’ve been “around” public “alt-whatever” sphere, but do you really see 95% of those types capable of that work? I don’t.
    Having said that, as things stay as they are, the quality will start moving across.
    Especially from senior management and senior ranks of security services and military.

    I believe that, for the true game changer, “we” will need a leadership of a well-sized town, ideologically on “our” side, to make just one bold move.

    You’re not the only one out there still looking for an easier, softer way. But there isn’t one.

    True. But, for that fact to really sink in takes time.
    And ….hehe…not quite sure it’s on “our” side.

    It’s likely “we” will realize it’s time to stop talking and start at least street protesting when they already have the system in place where it won’t make any difference. Even escalating violence won’t.
    South African Whites are a good example.

    Timing is what this game is all about.
    Ah, yes, the usual disclaimer: 90/10 “we” will lose. Ten percent is all that matters.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  148. @Richard B

    This is about Race and Culture not ideology.

    Why then do you single out, two paragraphs down, Nat-Soc. as not having your approval:

    So we should respond as a Race. Not as Alt-Right, and definitely not as Nat-Soc, etc.

    Why does being NS compete with being racially “White”? This is a personal antipathy of yours … I know from reading comments by you elsewhere.

    If you saw a White person wearing a swastika armband being attacked, would you rush to his defense? Just asking.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  149. peterAUS says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Why does being NS compete with being racially “White”?

    Don’t get me wrong, please. From a couple of exchanges with you here I do know that my comment will simply “bounce”. This is just to show the rest of “88” fans what some of racially aware Whites think and feel:
    The National Socialist attitude towards Slavic peoples.

    Some of the people reading this (not your breed, naturally) do recognize that Slavic peoples also belong to White race and, more importantly, wouldn’t, as NS types, work hard to wipe them out.

    See….here is a catch:
    If Slavic people(s) (read RUSSIANS…you know the type, the group which can pull M.A.D on a drop of a hat if deemed necessary) have to choose between Jew World Order and “your guy” model they choose the former hundred times of hundred.

    Not that your breed can get that, but that’s fine. What you could get, this time, that the last time your types got off light. At least no high radioactivity in Germany now.
    Or the world for that matter.

    Food for thought for a smarter minority in your group. IQ over 90 I mean.

    Having said the above, yes, if your breed by some Tolkien type magic (read impossible) dispense with “Slavic angle”, well, there are plenty of elements within NS thing worth using.
    Can’t see that happening in this Universe, though.

    Ah, yes, another food for thought (not YOU, but maybe some guys reading this):
    Say, secession scenario in US/Europe/Hell, even in Australia region and YOU guys pop up in some numbers. Keep reading, please. The movement would need some external help. I guess getting some from Russia would be prudent.
    Keep reading.
    If the price for getting that help is wiping your group out in one afternoon I guess it’s a fair price.O.K. one afternoon and a decent part of the night. In the morning all good.
    Makes sense?

  150. Richard B says:
    @peterAUS

    “Well, why not, actually.”

    Because they’ve made it clear they’re not interested in dialogue.
    And even if they were, they can’t think straight. Which is why they’re not interested in dialogue.
    They’re incapable of it.

    They’re not just brainwashed. They’re brainsoiled.

    “do you really see 95% of those types capable of that work? I don’t.”

    Neither do I.

    But my comment simply focused on a particular situation and what would have to happen to change it. Not on who would do it or how.

    But all “we” would need is a critical mass.

    About who would win or lose. If “they” win theirs will be a Pyrrhic victory. Of that I have no doubt at all.

    Could be no one wins. It very well may be.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  151. @peterAUS

    I didn’t address my comment to you but you seem to want an excuse to mouth off to me.

    On the other hand, Richard B addressed his reply to you, rather than to me. I can only conclude he can’t answer my fair question. The hypocrisy is what always stands out with you guys.

    It goes without saying, NS was never trying to “wipe out” any Slavic people. It’s something you could never prove and so you don’t try.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  152. @peterAUS

    NS, and communism, have a bad image and have been discredited in the public eye. I may be wrong but I don’t think either of these ideologies have much of a pull any more. Maybe it’s best they just keep fighting it out in the streets to keep occupied the few adherents they’ve still got. That said, we need something new, appropriate to the current situation but I can’t see where it’s coming from. Some keep saying the new struggle is between nationalists and globalists, but I’ll believe that when I see nationalists attacking and storming all those globalist meetings and their institutions. Seems to me that the antifa anarchist types are more prominent even in those anti-globalist activities than the nationalists. Or they’re just out to cause trouble whatever the opportunity.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  153. aandrews says:

    Washington: Antifa Armed with a Rifle and Firebombs Attacks ICE Facility, Attempting to Free Immigrants – Shot Dead

    Andrew Anglin
    Daily Stormer
    July 14, 2019

    [MORE]

    So this is way worse than anything any “white supremacist” has done since Oklahoma City.

    And it’s just a minor news story.

    Funny how that works, huh?

    It’s the kind of thing that leads one to wonder if the Jews who run the media don’t have some kind of… Jewish agenda.

    Police said Van Spronsen caused a vehicle to catch fire and that he attempted to ignite a large propane tank and set buildings on fire. Police said that besides the rifle, he had a satchel and flares.

  154. aandrews says:

    In public they sell organic vegetables. In private they join white supremacist groups. Now activists are pushing back.

    Kelly Weill
    Reporter
    Updated 07.14.19 10:13AM ET / Published 07.14.19 12:33AM ET

    [MORE]

    At Bloomington, Indiana’s weekend farmers’ market, shoppers can stock up on kale, fresh eggs, homemade jams—and anti-Nazi accessories.

    “Don’t Buy Veggies From Nazis,” read a pile of colorful buttons at a recent Saturday farmers’ market.

    The buttons were a jab at Sarah Dye and Douglas Mackey, proprietors of Schooner Creek Farm, a vegetable farm. Like other unassuming stallholders at the market, Dye and Mackey sell eggs and seasonal vegetables.

    But online, Dye is “Volkmom,” an active member of the white supremacist group Identity Evropa, according to leaked chat logs. “Volk” is a nod to the Nazis’ back-to-the-land völkisch movement.

    “Any Whites who have spent time living in a neighborhood or attending a school with a non-white majority know the strife that Whites endure,” Dye wrote in an Identity Evropa chat in January. “I can attest to it myself.” She also wrote of trying to win over a family member by showing videos from a white supremacist channel.

    After the couple’s connections came to light, Bloomington locals campaigned to oust the couple from their weekend stall at the city’s farmers’ market.

    “Activists.”

  155. peterAUS says:
    @Richard B

    ..they can’t think straight. Which is why they’re not interested in dialogue.
    They’re incapable of it.

    I was thinking about “our” own guys who feel talking will resolve this.

    But all “we” would need is a critical mass.

    And leadership, I guess.

    If “they” win theirs will be a Pyrrhic victory. Of that I have no doubt at all.

    Could be no one wins. It very well may be.

    I hear you.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  156. peterAUS says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    …NS was never trying to “wipe out” any Slavic people.

    N/C.
    Russians will do their best to wipe out your types out, no matter what.
    Which makes anything with your breed, how to put it, impractical in real life.

    Here, enjoy.

  157. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    NS, and communism, have a bad image and have been discredited in the public eye. I may be wrong but I don’t think either of these ideologies have much of a pull any more.

    Bad image, a?
    You know….as long as people are concerned by “image” they aren’t serious.
    Both those ideologies, NS in particular, will have a lot to offer WHEN things get serious.
    Say….when demographic change makes the majority of Whites becoming interested in this topic we’ve been talking about

    ….we need something new, appropriate to the current situation but I can’t see where it’s coming from.

    It would help to define the “current situation”.
    Hehehe….what EXACTLY is the problem with it?
    I have a vague feeling that there are several definitions of that problem in “alt-whatever”. No wonder “we” can’t have any solutions. Basics of problem-solving.

    Some keep saying the new struggle is between nationalists and globalists..

    Yes.
    Some say it’s about race. Some it’s about jobs. Some about religion. Some about culture. Some about keeping their guns. Some about …..
    And….all those are minority within, interestingly perhaps, one race.

    “We” will get there, one way or another. Defining the problem I mean. Will it happen in time remains to be seen.

  158. bluedog says:
    @Wally

    Lol you mean you actually have a web site,that must be an interesting place a place where all the insane hangs out as they wibble and wobble between insanity and sanity,now I wonder yet I wonder who pays for that.!!!

  159. Richard B says:
    @peterAUS

    “I was thinking about “our” own guys who feel talking will resolve this.”

    Ah, I was wondering if we got criss-crossed on that.

    Now I get who you’re referring to, yes, I agree. They’re fooling themselves if they think talk will resolve this.

    Referring back to your original comment, I didn’t quite get the 90/10 reference.

    Also, have you seen the John Mark video on who would win a civil war.

    It certainly seems well thought out, but not sure I agree with his conclusion.

    Anyway, I think we’re all going to find out sooner than later.

  160. peterAUS says:

    Referring back to your original comment, I didn’t quite get the 90/10 reference.

    That is the probability that “we” will lose this game.
    We as White, Western middle-class men. Emphasize on the “White”.

    …have you seen the John Mark video on who would win a civil war.

    Haven’t. Tried. Stopped at 4.27.
    I just don’t think the material was written by a senior US Army/Marines officer with a certain resume/career path.
    I just don’t.

    That is the type who would write the material for any serious Government and …hehe…. more importantly, the type I would like to pay good attention to re this topic.

    I’ll take a full look later on (work type busy at the moment) and post my thoughts.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  161. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    Took a quick break from work. Tried to see 10 minutes.

    At 5.25, a quote from the video:
    …”hitting certain spots on the grid would fuck a lot of military and…”.

    That is all I need to know about the author of the written material and the author of the video.

    Now…hehe…what does that make of you “RichardB” could be an interesting question, a?

    Let’s be positive. I’d suggest taking this as a learning experience.

    If you really want to know about those things simply go to any NATO member Staff College open material and try a read or two.

    Free will, brother.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  162. @peterAUS

    I couldn’t watch that for more than a few minutes. He reckons that in a war of the right against the left and the government the right would easily win. Well if the government thinks it’s losing, it can, as the government, call on the support of its globalist friends like the UN and NATO and whatever alliance of willing foreign governments to send forces to help it out. A civil war in any one western country would quickly be resolved in favour of the leftist globalists and the government as NATO and all the other globalist governments would be called upon to assist if need be. With large scale defections of the military to the rebels and simultaneous civil war throughout most of the western and NATO countries the chances are better. Even then there may not be a clear winner but a breakup into enclaves with peacekeeping troops deployed from outside the region (UN, Russia, China) and some negotiated settlement to divide up the countries. And the longer this is postponed, the less will the right wing whites get, and if delayed too long, they’ll get nothing. Now if the air force were to secretly defect and in a surprise attack bomb the hell out of certain areas … then indeed the whole problem could be quickly solved and there wouldn’t be any significant battles to fight in such a civil war. But would that happen or the air force would stay loyal to the government and bomb the rebels instead? In the case of a civil war breaking up in the US, Mexico could easily annex large chunks of the southwest while the rebels and the government are fighting it out.

  163. peterAUS says:

    I couldn’t watch that for more than a few minutes.

    Neither.
    Even a senior NCO would “speak” totally different if submitting any report/suggestion/whatever “up”.
    A Colonel “speaking” that way, “up”….not in this Universe.
    Kids….

    Well if the government thinks it’s losing, it can, as the government, call on the support of its globalist friends like the UN and NATO and whatever alliance of willing foreign governments to send forces to help it out.

    That could work both ways.

    A civil war in any one western country would quickly be resolved in favour of the leftist globalists and the government as NATO and all the other globalist governments would be called upon to assist if need be.

    Not so sure about that.

    With large scale defections of the military to the rebels and simultaneous civil war throughout most of the western and NATO countries the chances are better.

    Desertions, defections, lack of drive resulting in poor performance etc.

    Even then there may not be a clear winner but a breakup into enclaves with peacekeeping troops deployed from outside the region (UN, Russia, China) and some negotiated settlement to divide up the countries.

    Not so sure about that.

    And the longer this is postponed, the less will the right wing whites get, and if delayed too long, they’ll get nothing.

    Yes and no.

    Now if the air force were to secretly defect…..

    Let’s stop here.

    Listen….you appear to be interested in the topic. That’s good.
    You also, no offense, feel as not knowing much about it. That’s not bad if willing to learn.

    May I suggest something? Could clear some fog in your understanding of that particular game.

    Play a wargame.

    Choose a region of any Western country. At least one major city, several minor, some towns etc. Exit to sea. Imagine it rebelled against the central authority of that state.

    Put yourself in the place of…say….a Brigade commander which is a part of ground force tasked to…say….seize the City Council building/whatever in the major city (the center of the rebellion).
    Play the game…………………………..

    Very soon you’ll get into certain problems, I feel, as:
    The moral of your own troops. From your Chief of Staff to the grenadier of the first team of the first squad of the……the guy who will enter the city first.
    Supply chain (quantity and quality).
    Potential civilian casualties and what can happen to YOU should the Government you obey decide it’s just too much “collateral damage” a couple of months down the road. You know, the court etc.
    You appear to be a Brit. Research a bit about members of 2nd Para, “Bloody Sunday” etc.
    We are talking about MOUT/FIBUA here, on own soil, against own people, not some drone surgical stuff on goatherders in the middle of nowhere.
    Hehe…the “politicos” would want it fast, smooth with minimal bloodshed. What happens to YOU when it becomes slow and bloody?
    What happens to troopers of assault squads when they see what type of corpses are in the rubble they are sweeping through?

    Stuff like that.

    Play the game…………….

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