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Temple University professor Joan Mellen has published twenty-four books; her overriding theme is “the history of the Central Intelligence Agency and its role in the planning and cover-up of the Kennedy assassination.”

In this interview we discuss the JFK assassination, the anniversary of which is one week from tonight, with reference to Joan Mellen’s books:

*Faustian Bargains (about LBJ’s personal hit man Mac Wallace);

* A Farewell to Justice (about New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison’s attempt to prosecute JFK’s killers);

*Blood in the Water (on suspected Kennedy-killer LBJ’s conspiring with Israel to murder hundreds of American sailors to bring the US into the 1967 war).

Though she criticizes Michael Collins Piper’s Final Judgment regarding its organization and documentation, Joan Mellen does not reject Piper’s thesis—that Israel orchestrated the JFK assassination to save its nuclear program.

“If you are able to read just one book in 2019, I urge it to be Joan Mellen’s Blood in the Water: How the U.S. and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty.”
Richard Falk, “Joan Mellen’s Blood in the Water: How the U.S. and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty,” Foreign Policy Journal, April 1, 2019.

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
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  1. I can read a transcript much faster than I can listen to a podcast. There is software that will produce transcripts. Please!!!

  2. Joan Mellenhead, whose discussion of Japanese cinema is ‘muh feminism’.

  3. Duke84 says:

    What an idiotic conspiracy theory.The evidence clearly shows Oswald committed the assassination all by himself.He owned both murder weapons.

  4. dimples says:

    I thought KB smoothed talked his way out of it very professionally when she discovered that he hadn’t read any of her books.

  5. Anon[426] • Disclaimer says:

    I was interested in reading Mellen’s Blood in the Water until I read a review where it said she starts off her book bashing Trump for not specifically mentioning Jews (rather than referring to all groups) in a Holocaust remembrance. Um, check please! Maybe she felt a need to bring this up lest her exposé on the dirty deeds of Israel is, well, almost Holocaust denial. Sorry, but if I’m going to read a book exposing a major historical cover-up I’m not exactly receptive to its author being worried about how her work will be perceived and received. Also, Trump bashing immediately links you with the fake news which now how zero credibility IMHO.

  6. @Totally Pseudonymic Handle

    Agreed. I can stop reading a transcript when my attention is needed elsewhere, then just pick it up again. With a podcast running, I tend to just tune out the audio input while I TCB in another area. That means I have to back up in the stream to take up where I left off. It’s a demand on my time that I can’t always accommodate.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  7. @Duke84

    Jacob Henry Schiff
    (1847 – 1920)


    Jacob Schiff proposed that the First World War be the war to end all wars, which became an international mantra after the war. The absolute end of all war heralded the Jewish Messianic Era in which the Jews would be “restored” to Palestine, where they would rule the world from Jerusalem. Jewish bankers deliberately created the First World War in order to artificially fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecy by staging the “Battle of Armageddon”, by creating a World government run by Jews known as “The League of Nations”, by “restoring” the Jews to Palestine, by destroying the Empires and Monarchies, by enslaving the Gentiles with Bolshevism, by placing the wealth of the World in Jewish hands, etc. etc. etc.

    Schiff believed that the First World War fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah 2:1-4, which states,
    “1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.”

    “The mashiach [Jewish messiah] will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15)…The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come…In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9).”
    — From “Mashiach: The Messiah”, Judaism 101 —–

    “The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the “children of Israel” will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.”
    –Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, ‘La Revue de Paris’, p.574, June 1, 1928

    “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid Galilee of its Arab population.”
    — David Ben-Gurion (Founding Father of the State of Israel and First Israeli Prime Minister), from Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar (May 1948)



    August 1, 2014

    An Instagram post by an Israel Defense Forces sniper boasts of murdering 13 Gazan children in one day.

    An IDF Combat Engineering Corps Soldier, specifically, David D. Ovadia posed with a Barrett .50 caliber sniper rifle.

    Ovadia posted his comments on the Instagram account of Palestinian Sherrii ElKaderi. The image was quickly screen captured in case Ovadia came to his senses and realized that he could be prosecuted for his admission of war crimes. It is unclear and perhaps unlikely that the Barrett was used in the commission of such crimes, as this weapon is usually reserved for the best of the best marksmen. In any event, Ovadia is in active deployment and openly confesses to killing Gazan civilian children.

    While not specifying what weapon he used, the posting of himself with the .50 caliber rifle was obviously meant to be visually intimidating to Palestinians. In the meantime, while more information is gathered on Ovadia, the “hacktivist” group “Anonymous” took control of his Instagram account, deleting it entirely.

    For “good measure” Anonymous sources said that they hacked the websites of the Mossad intelligence agency in Israel “for the brave IDF Sniper”, in reference to Ovadia. By 11:30, they had taken down the Israeli Ministry of Defense as well, and similarly attributed it as a response to Ovadia’s confessions. If you agree that Ovadia’s admission of war crimes against Gazan children needs to be FRONT PAGE NEWS, share this with someone you know who cares! Daviddovadia Source:


  8. I think KB’s initial instinct was correct–he will have better interviews with professors who have been fired than those who managed to retire without incident. 😉

  9. @Duke84

    Evidence of ownership? So f**king what? Troll you are. Probably have a tattoo of LBJ on your dong

  10. Gall says:

    Oh sure with a cheap bolt action Italian rifle while shooting through an elm tree while his view was also obstructed by an overpass. Sure thing.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Duke84
  11. Iris says:

    Don’t be sarcastic; Oswald had a Magic Bullet, remember?

    The one that changed direction 7 times like a drone, causing multiple scattered wounds to both President Kennedy and Connolly, and ending up completely intact in a hospital stretcher…

    • Replies: @Duke84
  12. @Duke84

    The problem with the conspiracy theories is the fact there were two murders that day, both of which involved an Oswald-looking guy, and then, an Oswald-looking guy aroused suspicion on the street, so much so that a shoe store manager followed him and saw the Oswald-looking guy slip past the attendant at the Texas Theater and go inside (even though he had money to pay). When the Oswald-looking guy was arrested, he pulled a gun and tried to kill another policeman. He had two different brands of rounds in his pocket. There were same two brands of bullets that were fired at Officer Tippit.

    • Replies: @Iris
  13. Iris says:

    saw the Oswald-looking guy slip past the attendant at the Texas Theater and go inside (even though he had money to pay)

    Don’t make a simple story too complicated.

    Within just minutes of JFK’s shooting, the Dallas Police Department had miraculously recovered their policing skills and identified Oswald (because he was the long-planned patsy).

    Within minutes of the shooting, long-time intelligence asset Oswald, who had been sent to Dallas on a wild goose chase to prevent an assassination attempt on JFK, understood that he had been played.

    Instead of going to a pre-arranged rendez-vous with agent Tippitt that would have had him executed, he made himself as much noticed as possible, by entering a theatre without paying a fee and even fighting with the attendant.

    Meanwhile, Agent Tippitt having failed his mission (shooting Oswald before he got caught by the police to avoid any public trial), he got executed by hit man Gary Eugene Marlow.

    It is possible that Marlow was initially sent as reinforcement to shoot down Oswald, with instructions to eliminate a less trusted insider (Tippitt) in case the “grand” plan got derailed.

    Oswald was never supposed to make it alive to the Dallas Police Department. This is why the Jack Rubinstein scenario had to be hastily cooked up.

    Oswald is to the JFK assassination what WTC7 is to 9/11: a little spanner thrown into the perpetrators’ works that ended up derailing the entire conspiracy.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @BillinDaytona
  14. dimples says:

    Anybody who thinks Oswald owned the weapons should read Mail Order Rifle by John Armstrong. Google ‘Mail Order Rifle John Armstrong’ and ‘Guns Harvey & Lee’. All the evidence that Oswald owned the guns had to be fabricated at the last minute by the FBI as the plotters had not worked out in advance which weapons they were going to pin on him. The best evidence for fraud is the phoney postal order missing most of its bank franking stamps.

  15. Skeptikal says:

    Excellent explanation!
    I think this is one of the clearest explanations I have heard of the events in Dallas.
    I have read a couple of books on the assassination, namely, JFK and the Unspeakable, and Piper’s book (too bad the latter wasn’t better written).

    What can I read that elaborates on the basic scenario described here?

  16. Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen and Remember the Liberty by Phillip Nelson with contributions from Liberty survivors in both books, clearly proves the participation of LBJ and zionists in his administration with the Israelis in the attack on the USS Liberty and that the submarine USS Amberjack fired the torpedo that hit the Liberty!

    For a survivors account of the attack and the USS Amberjack go to and scroll down on the home page to the attack on the Liberty and listen the account of the attack by Richard Larry Weaver.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  17. @Skeptikal

    Jim Marrs’ books. Or his many wonderful youtube interviews, assuming they haven’t been holocausted.

    Jim Marrs also points out that Lt Col Fletcher Proudy, who features heavily in all of the narratives, was on the other side of the planet in Australia when the newspapers all printed detailed history of Lee Patsy Oswald.

    Detailed history already printed in newspapers across the globe of a heretofore unknown lone nut before the brains had even dried on the trunk of the Lincoln after Kennedy was shot from the front?????

    • Replies: @dimples

    For those not familiar with the Liberty incident, the headline is that the purpose of the Liberty attack was exactly the same as the 911 events:

    Both were false flags designed to drag the US into endless Middle East Wars.

    The Liberty attack was supposed to destroy the ship, kill all the crew, and blame it on the Egyptians.
    It was a failure because many crew members survived.

    The 911 attack did manage to take down the twin towers and put a big hole in the Pentagon. It was successful.

    Lesson learned: If you want to destroy a false flag target with certainty put the explosives inside the target and let the outside attack be just the propaganda/mind control show.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  19. @Justvisiting

    Agree, although I believe has the best answer on how the 7 WTC buildings were destroyed ie 3,4,5,6, and 1 and 2, 7 was a controlled demolition.

    April Gallop was working at the pentagon on 911 and walked out though the hole in the wall created by the prewired demolition and saw on plane parts or missile parts, her videos are on youtube.

  20. @Duke84

    “What an idiotic conspiracy theory. The evidence clearly shows Oswald committed the assassination all by himself.He owned both murder weapons.”

    And the accused assassin was assassinated, up close and personal, while in police custody. What part of mob hit don’t you understand? The Oswald assassin was Jack Ruby, aka, Jack Rubenstein who had ties to the mob.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @Duke84
  21. @flashlight joe

    That is a lie, Oswald did not kill JFK!

  22. Duke84 says:

    His view wasn’t obstructed by the tree or the overpass nor was there anything wrong with Oswald’s Carcano.Shows how much you know.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  23. Duke84 says:
    @flashlight joe

    To anyone who actually knew Jack Ruby the idea that he was in the mob or that he was part of a conspiracy was laughable.He never would have been there that morning if Karen Carlin hadn’t called him and he arrived more than an hour after the anounced transfer time.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Twodees Partain
  24. Duke84 says:

    It was straight line from the sniper’s nest through Kennedy and Connally’s back wounds and there was no magic bullet.The striations on the stretcher bullet matched Oswald’s Carcano to the exclusion of all other weapons.

  25. @Duke84

    Hows the weather in Tel Aviv.

    • Agree: Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @Duke84
  26. @dimples

    I thank you for that, but that link is not to the newspaper in question. It is a link to a library system, and the article was not created by the newspaper, but by a third party.

    I didn’t have time to read it in detail, but at the very least, the site agrees that there was detailed information about Lee Patsy Oswald almost instantly in New Zealand, and half a world away, and without the benefit of modern communications.

    And New Zealand was hardly alone in this. I’d recommend reading or listening Jim Marrs and Prouty himself . They aren’t hard to find, interviews all over youtube and other sites.

  27. @Totally Pseudonymic Handle

    Please recommend specific transcription software!

  28. @Skeptikal

    Laurent Guyénot’s From Yahweh to Zion takes up where Piper left off, and it is much better written (and very well translated ; – )

  29. Iris says:

    What is laughable is that you are commenting on a grown-ups discussion thread.

    Does your Mum know what you are doing with your computer?

    • Replies: @Duke84
    , @Twodees Partain
  30. Duke84 says:

    I don’t know.I’ve never been there but I heard it’s nice.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  31. Duke84 says:

    I’m 53 so it’s been while since I needed by mom.

  32. @Duke84

    Recommend reading JFK the CIA and Vietnam by Col. L. Fletcher Prouty and his interviews on youtube, and Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen.

  33. @Duke84

    You need to sharpen your skills if you want to be a shill. Whatever you’re being paid now is too much. Ruby was a mob associate from the age of 14. His name was Jacob Rubenstein and he worked for Sam Giancana among other mobsters..

    Making stupid, and easily refuted statements like the ones you’re making here shows that you’re not even a decent shill.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  34. @Iris

    This Duke84 shill is the lamest in a long line of lame shills. It’s depressing just reading the crap he posts, and realizing that he thinks he’s actually having an effect.

  35. …suspected Kennedy-killer LBJ

    Seen here grieving with Albert Thomas aboard Air Force One in the immediate aftermath of the assassination:

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