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Myths, Lies, Oil and Climate Wars, #398 with F. William Engdahl
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We discuss his article, The Dark Story Behind Global Warming also known as Climate Change and his book, Myths, Lies and Oil Wars; the International Panel on Climate Change, the IPCC, draconian recommendations based on computer models; neuro-linguistic programming; the Global Warming Petition Project signed by 31,000 scientists; climate and the sun’s activity; analysis of the IPCC climate report; history of the climate change/global warming movement; motives of the Rockefeller NGOs and Maurice Strong in promoting environmental activism; Agenda 21; the Club of Rome and its Mankind at the Turning Point and Limits to Growth; The 1001: A Nature Trust and the World Wildlife Fund; assumptions of MIT authored computer model study; the Bilderberg Group; mankind blamed for global climate change, not corporate ecological destruction; the Worldwatch Institute; reduction in overall living standards for the public; population reduction; promotion of deindustrialization; peak oil; abiotic oil; shale oil; oil wars.

(Republished from Guns & Butter by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Interesting in parts, rubbish in other parts. Some of what the says in interesting and some of it is true. I found particularly interesting the statement that Oil originates in the bowels of the earth, as that confirms what I read, many decades ago, of the research in Sweden, where a Prof. Gold drilled right through a very deeply buried granite slab, which had never been anywhere near the surface and got methane. His idea that coal is also a condensed form of methane is clearly wrong as coal has abundant fossils in it. (Unlike oil.)

    Also he entirely leaves out of the discussion (As climate-change deniers always do) the potentially disastrous effects of CO2 acidifying the oceans.

    His words to the effect that the “Arctic ice is not melting” is clearly false as cargo ships are beginning to use the arctic route between the Pacific and the Atlantic.

    The account of the “origins” of the “green” movements and the AGW “scare” are interesting but maybe the bankers were right! Could happen! I suppose. As against that, the UK government is very firmly under the thumb of the banksters and yet it seem to drag its feet on climate change as far as it can, and has always favoured the oil companies’ interests over those of the people.

    With the Sun in a quiet phase and extra volcanic ash in the air, it is not SO surprising if global warming is taking place slower than was predicted. That the models the climate scientists use for their predictions are imperfect, will come as no surprise to anyone who understands how science works. Of course they are imperfect, they do not have all the data and they do not know all the various interactions that may be taking place. Only now, are they beginning to have the computers which may be able to handle the enormously complex calculations that will be required, to predict anything slightly like the future. Even then, with such unpredictable things as volcanos to take into account there will always be a good deal of inaccuracy. I have been told: that the European Research centre on Lake Como, received NO information on how much fuel was used by the airlines and no info from the various militaries either! So, inevitably there is a lot of guesswork in the models.

    Ironic, that a Professor of Geopolitics should lambast climate scientists for inaccuracy!

    His suggestion that the Chinese are not taking the shift to renewable energy seriously also seems a bit off the mark.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  2. I didn’t listen to this because I refuse to jump through the hoops demanded by Soundcloud.

    Why do they believe they are entitled to access to my data?

    Fuck them.

  3. @foolisholdman

    Here’s everything you need to know about global warming in the perpetrators own words.

    http://www.investors.com/po…

    “At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

    “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

    Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

    and

    http://www.cfact.org/2017/0…

    “Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’s fourth summary report released in 2007 candidly expressed the priority. Speaking in 2010, he advised, “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.””

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