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What’s a neocon, Dad?

“What’s a neocon?” clueless George W. Bush once asked his father in 2003. “Do you want names, or a description?” answered Bush 41. “Description.” “Well,” said 41, “I’ll give it to you in one word: Israel.” True or not, that exchange quoted by Andrew Cockburn[1]Andrew Cockburn, Rumsfeld: His Rise, His fall, and Catastrophic Legacy, Scribner, 2011, p. 219. Cockburn claims to have heard this repeated by “friends of the family.” sums it up: the neoconservatives are crypto-Israelis. Their true loyalty goes to Israel — Israel as defined by their mentor Leo Strauss in his 1962 lecture “Why We Remain Jews,” that is, including an indispensable Diaspora.[2]Leo Strauss, “Why we Remain Jews”, quoted in Shadia Drury, Leo Strauss and the American Right, St. Martin’s Press, 1999 (on archive.org), p. 31-43.

In his volume Cultural Insurrections, Kevin MacDonald has accurately described neoconservatism as “a complex interlocking professional and family network centered around Jewish publicists and organizers flexibly deployed to recruit the sympathies of both Jews and non-Jews in harnessing the wealth and power of the United States in the service of Israel.”[3]Kevin MacDonald, Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilizations, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism, The Occidental Press, 2007, p. 122. The proof of the neocons’ crypto-Israelism is their U.S. foreign policy:

“The confluence of their interests as Jews in promoting the policies of the Israeli right wing and their construction of American interests allows them to submerge or even deny the relevance of their Jewish identity while posing as American patriots. […] Indeed, since neoconservative Zionism of the Likud Party variety is well known for promoting a confrontation between the United States and the entire Muslim world, their policy recommendations best fit a pattern of loyalty to their ethnic group, not to America.”[4]Kevin McDonald, Cultural Insurrection, op. cit., p. 66.

The neocons’ U.S. foreign policy has always coincided with the best interest of Israel as they see it. Before 1967, Israel’s interest rested heavily on Jewish immigration from Eastern Europe. From 1967, when Moscow closed Jewish emigration to protest Israel’s annexation of Arab territories, Israel’s interest included the U.S. winning the Cold War. That is when the editorial board of Commentary, the monthly magazine of the American Jewish Committee, experienced their conversion to “neoconservatism,” and Commentary became, in the words of Benjamin Balint, “the contentious magazine that transformed the Jewish left into the neoconservative right .[5]Benjamin Balint, Running Commentary: The Contentious Magazine That Transformed the Jewish Left into the Neoconservative Right, Public Affairs, 2010. Irving Kristol explained to the American Jewish Congress in 1973 why anti-war activism was no longer good for Israel: “it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States. […] American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”[6]Congress Bi-Weekly, quoted by Philip Weiss, “30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views,” Mondoweiss.net, May 23, 2007: mondoweiss.net/2007/05/30_years_ago_ne.html This tells us what “reality” Kristol was referring to, when he famously defined a neoconservative as “a liberal who has been mugged by reality” (Neoconservatism: the Autobiography of an Idea, 1995).

With the end of the Cold War, the national interest of Israel changed once again. The primary objective became the destruction of Israel’s enemies in the Middle East by dragging the U.S. into a third world war. The neoconservatives underwent their second conversion, from anti-communist Cold Warriors to Islamophobic “Clashers of Civilizations” and crusaders in the “War on Terror.”

In September 2001, they got the “New Pearl Harbor” that they had been wishing for in a PNAC report a year before.[7]http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/Rebuil...es.pdf Two dozens neoconservatives had by then been introduced by Dick Cheney into key positions, including Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith at the Pentagon, David Wurmser at the State Department, and Philip Zelikow and Elliott Abrams at the National Security Council. Abrams had written three years earlier that Diaspora Jews “are to stand apart from the nation in which they live. It is the very nature of being Jewish to be apart — except in Israel — from the rest of the population.”[8]Elliott Abrams, Faith or Fear: How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America, Simon & Schuster, 1997, p. 181. Perle, Feith and Wurmser had co-signed in 1996 a secret Israeli report entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to break with the Oslo Accords of 1993 and reaffirm Israel’s right of preemption on Arab territories. They also argued for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein as “an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right.” As Patrick Buchanan famously remarked, the 2003 Iraq war proves that the plan “has now been imposed by Perle, Feith, Wurmser & Co. on the United States.”[9]Patrick J. Buchanan, “Whose War? A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest,” The American Conservative, March 24, 2003, www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/

How these neocon artists managed to bully Secretary of State Colin Powell into submission is unclear, but, according to his biographer Karen DeYoung, Powell privately rallied against this “separate little government” composed of “Wolfowitz, Libby, Feith, and Feith’s ‘Gestapo Office’.”[10]Stephen Sniegoski, The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel, Enigma Edition, 2008, p. 156. His chief of staff, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, declared in 2006 on PBS that he had “participated in a hoax on the American people, the international community and the United Nations Security Council,”[11]http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wilkerson.html and in 2011, he openly denounced the duplicity of neoconservatives such as Wurmser and Feith, whom he considered “card-carrying members of the Likud party.” “I often wondered,” he said, “if their primary allegiance was to their own country or to Israel.”[12]Stephen Sniegoski, The Transparent Cabal, op. cit., p. 120. Something doesn’t quite ring true when neocons say “we Americans,” for example Paul Wolfowitz declaring: “Since September 11th, we Americans have one thing more in common with Israelis.”[13]April 11, 2002, quoted in Justin Raimondo, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection, iUniverse, 2003, p. 19.

The neocons’ capacity to deceive the American public by posturing as American rather than Israeli patriots required that their Jewishness be taboo, and Carl Bernstein, though a Jew himself, provoked a scandal by citing on national television the responsibility of “Jewish neocons” for the Iraq war.[14]April 26, 2013, on MSNBC, watch on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlatDWqh0o. But the fact that the destruction of Iraq was carried out on behalf of Israel is now widely accepted, thanks in particular to the 2007 book by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy. And even the best liars betray themselves sometimes. Philip Zelikow briefly dropped the mask during a conference at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002:

“Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat is and actually has been since 1990: it’s the threat against Israel. And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.”[15]Noted by Inter-Press Service on March 29, 2004, under the title “U.S.: Iraq war is to protect Israel, says 9/11 panel chief,” and repeated by United Press International the next day, on www.upi.com.

From crypto-Judaism to crypto-Zionism

Norman Podhoretz, editor-in-chief of Commentary (and father-in-law of Elliott Abrams), said that after June 1967, Israel became “the religion of the American Jews.”[16]Norman Podhoretz, Breaking Ranks: A Political Memoir, Harper & Row , 1979, p. 335. That is, at least, what he started working at. But, naturally, such religion had better remain discreet outside the Jewish community, if possible even secret, and disguised as American patriotism. The neocons have perfected this fake American patriotism wholly profitable to Israel, and ultimately disastrous for Americans — a pseudo-Americanism that is really a crypto-Israelism or crypto-Zionism.

This quasi-religious crypto-Zionism is comparable to the crypto-Judaism that has played a determining role in Christendom in the late Middle Ages. From the end of the 14th century, sermons, threats of expulsion, and opportunism made over a hundred thousand Jewish converts to Catholicism in Spain and Portugal, many of whom continued to “Judaize” secretly. Freed from the restrictions imposed on Jews, these “New Christians,” called Conversos or Marranos, experienced a meteoric socio-economic ascension. In the words of historian of Marranism Yirmiyahu Yovel:

Conversos rushed into Christian society and infiltrated most of its interstices. After one or two generations, they were in the councils of Castile and Aragon, exercising the functions of royal counselors and administrators, commanding the army and navy, and occupying all ecclesiastical offices from parish priest to bishop and cardinal. […] The Conversos were priests and soldiers, politicians and professors, judges and theologians, writers, poets and legal advisors—and of course, as in the past, doctors, accountants and high-flying merchants. Some allied themselves by marriage to the greatest families of Spanish nobility […] Their ascent and penetration in society were of astonishing magnitude and speed.”[17]Translated from the French edition, Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane. Judaïsme et modernité, Seuil, 2011, pp. 119-120, 149–151.

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Not all these Conversos were crypto-Jews, that is, insincere Christians, but most remained proudly ethnic Jews, and continued to marry among themselves. Solomon Halevi, chief rabbi of Burgos, converted in 1390, took the name of Pablo de Santa Maria, became Bishop of Burgos in 1416, and was succeeded by his son Alonso Cartagena. Both father and son saw no contradiction between the Torah and the Gospel, and believed that Jews made better Christians, as being from the chosen people and of the race of the Messiah.[18]Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 96–98, 141–143; Nathan Wachtel, Entre Moïse et Jésus. Études marranes (XVe-XIXe siècle), CNRS éditions, 2013, pp. 54–65.

A new situation was created after the Alhambra Decree (1492) that forced Spanish Jews to choose between conversion and expulsion. Four years later, those who had stayed loyal to their faith and migrated to Portugal were given the choice between conversion and death, with no possibility of leaving the country. Portugal now had a population of about 12 percent so-called New Christians, deeply resentful of Catholicism. They learned and perfected the art of leading a double life. When they were eventually allowed to leave the country and engage in international trade in 1507, they “soon began to rise to the forefront of international trade, virtually monopolizing the market for certain commodities, such as sugar, to participate to a lesser degree in trading spices, rare woods, tea, coffee, and the transportation of slaves.”[19]Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 483, 347. When in 1540, the new Portuguese king introduced the Inquisition following the Spanish model, tracking down Portuguese Judaizers all over Europe and even in the New World, Marranos became more intensely resentful of the Catholic faith they had to fake, and more secretive. They would play an important role in the Calvinist or Puritan movement which, after undermining Spanish domination on the Netherlands, conquered England and ultimately formed the religious bedrock of the United States.

Catholic monarchs are to blame for having drafted by force into Christendom an army of enemies that would largely contribute to the ruin of the Catholic empire. By and large, the Roman Church has done much to foster the Jewish culture of crypsis. However, segregation and forced conversions were not the only factor. Crypto-Jews could find justification in their Hebrew Bible, in which they read:

“Rebekah took her elder son Esau’s best clothes, which she had at home, and dressed her younger son Jacob in them. […] Jacob said to his father, ‘I am Esau your first-born’” (Genesis 27:15–19).

If Jacob cheated his brother Esau of his birthright by impersonating him, why would they not do the same (Jacob being, of course, Israel, and Esau or Edom being codenames for the Catholic Church among medieval Jews)? Crypto-Jews also found comfort and justification in the biblical figure of Esther, the clandestine Jewess who, in the Persian king’s bed, inclined him favorably toward her people. For generations, Spanish and Portuguese Marranos prayed to “saint Esther.”[20]Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 149–151. This is significant because the legend of Esther is a cornerstone of Jewish culture: every year the Jews celebrate its happy ending (the massacre of 75,000 Persians by the Jews) by the feast of Purim.[21]Elliott Horowitz, Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence, Princeton University Press, 2006. Another factor to consider is the ritual prayer of Kol Nidre recited before Yom Kippur at least since the 12th century, by which Jews absolved themselves in advance of “all vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of all names,” including, of course, baptism .

Marranos and their descendants had a deep and lasting influence in economic, cultural and political world history, and their culture of crypsis survived the Inquisition. A case in point is the family of Benjamin Disraeli, Queen Victoria’s prime minister from 1868 to 1869, and again from 1874 to 1880, who defined himself as “Anglican of Jewish race.”[22]Hannah Arendt calls him a “race fanatic” in The Origins of Totalitarianism, vol. 1: Antisemitism, Meridian Books, 1958, pp. 309–310. His grandfather was born from Portuguese Marranos converted back to Judaism in Venice, and had moved to London in 1748. Benjamin’s father, Isaac D’Israeli was the author of a book on The Genius of Judaism, but had his whole family baptized when Benjamin was thirteen, because administrative careers were then closed to the Jews in England.

Benjamin Disraeli has been called the true inventor of British imperialism, for having Queen Victoria proclaimed Empress of India in 1876. He orchestrated the British takeover of the Suez Canal in 1875, thanks to funding from his friend Lionel Rothschild (an operation that also consolidated the Rothschilds’ control over the Bank of England). But Disraeli can also be considered a major forerunner of Zionism; well before Theodor Herzl, he tried to introduce the “restoration of Israel” into the Berlin Congress agenda, hoping to convince the Ottoman Sultan to concede Palestine as an autonomous province.

What was Disraeli’s motivation behind his British imperial foreign policy? Did he believe in Britain’s destiny to control the Middle East? Or did he see the British Empire as the tool for the fulfillment of Israel’s own destiny? In mooring the Suez Canal to British interests, did he just seek to outdo the French, or was he laying the foundation for the future alliance between Israel and the Anglo-American Empire? No one can answer these questions with certainty. But Disraeli’s contemporaries pondered them. William Gladstone, his longtime competitor for the prime ministry, accused him of “holding British foreign policy hostage to his Jewish sympathies.”[23]Stanley Weintraub, Disraeli: A Biography, Hamish Hamilton, 1993, p. 579. So we see that the neoconservatives’ loyalty to Israel, and their control of the Empire’s foreign policy, is not a new issue. The case of Disraeli highlights the legacy between pre-modern crypto-Judaism and modern crypto-Zionism.

The dialectic of nation and religion

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From his Darwinian perspective, Kevin MacDonald sees crypto-Judaism as “an authentic case of crypsis quite analogous to cases of mimetic camouflage in the natural world.”[24]Kevin MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism, Praeger, 1998, kindle 2013, k. 5876–82. But Judaism itself, in its modern form, falls into the same category, according to MacDonald. In the 18th century, by claiming to be adepts of a religious confession, Jews gained full citizenship in European nations, while remaining ethnically endogamic and suspiciously uninterested in converting anyone. Gilad Atzmon points out that the Haskalah motto, “Be a Jew at home and a man in the street” is fundamentally dishonest:

“The Haskalah Jew is deceiving his or her God when at home, and misleading the goy once in the street. In fact, it is this duality of tribalism and universalism that is at the very heart of the collective secular Jewish identity. This duality has never been properly resolved.”[25]Gilad Atzmon, The Wandering Who? A Study of Jewish Identity Politics, Zero Books, 2011, pp. 55–56.

Zionism was an attempt to resolve it. Moses Hess wrote in his influential book Rome and Jerusalem (1862):

“Those of our brethren who, for purposes of obtaining emancipation, endeavor to persuade themselves, as well as others, that modern Jews possess no trace of a national feeling, have really lost their heads.”

For him, a Jew is a Jew “by virtue of his racial origin, even though his ancestors may have become apostates.”[26]Moses Hess, Rome and Jerusalem: A Study in Jewish Nationalism, 1918 (on archive.org), pp. 71, 27. Addressing his fellow Jews, Hess defended the national character of Judaism and denounced the assimilationist Jew’s “beautiful phrases about humanity and enlightenment which he employs as a cloak to hide his treason.”[27]Moses Hess, Rome and Jerusalem, op. cit., p. 74.

In return, Reformed Judaism opposed the nationalist version of Jewishness which would become Zionism. On the occasion of their 1885 Pittsburgh Conference, American reformed rabbis issued the following statement:

“We consider ourselves no longer a nation, but a religion community, and therefore expect neither a return to Palestine, nor the restoration of a sacrificial worship under the Sons of Aaron, or of any of the laws concerning the Jewish State.”[28]Quoted in Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), 50th Anniversary Edition, Infinity Publishing, 2003, p. 14.

Yet Reformed Judaism promoted a messianic theory that continued to ascribe an exalted role to Israel as chosen people, nation or race. German-American rabbi Kaufmann Kohler, a star of the Pittsburgh Conference, argued in his Jewish Theology (1918) for the recycling of the messianic hope into “the belief that Israel, the suffering Messiah of the centuries, shall at the end of days become the triumphant Messiah of the nations.”

“Israel is the champion of the Lord, chosen to battle and suffer for the supreme values of mankind, for freedom and justice, truth and humanity; the man of woe and grief, whose blood is to fertilize the soil with the seeds of righteousness and love for mankind. […] Accordingly, modern Judaism proclaims more insistently than ever that the Jewish people is the Servant of the Lord, the suffering Messiah of the nations, who offered his life as an atoning sacrifice for humanity and furnished his blood as the cement with which to build the divine kingdom of truth and justice.”[29]Kaufmann Kohler, Jewish Theology, Systematically and Historically Considered, Macmillan, 1918 (on www.gutenberg.org), pp. 290, 378–380.

It is easy to recognize here an imitation of Christianity: the crucifixion of Christ (by the Jews, as Christians used to say) is turned into a symbol of the martyrdom of the Jews (by Christians). Interestingly, the theme of the “crucifixion of the Jews” was also widely used by secular Zionist Jews as a diplomatic argument.

But what is more important to understand is that Reformed Judaism rejected traditional nationalism (the quest for statehood) only to profess a superior, metaphysical kind of nationalism. In this way, Reformed Judaism and Zionism, while affirming their mutual incompatibility and competing for the hearts of Jews, dovetailed perfectly: Zionism played the rhetoric of European nationalist movements to claim “a nation like others” (for Israelis), while Reformed Judaism aimed at empowering a nation like no other and without borders (for Israelites). That explains why in 1976, American Reformed rabbis crafted a new resolution affirming: “The State of Israel and the Diaspora, in fruitful dialogue, can show how a People transcends nationalism while affirming it, thus establishing an example for humanity.”[30]Quoted in Kevin MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents, op. cit., k. 5463–68. In a marvelous example of Hegelian dialectical synthesis, both the religious and the national faces of Jewishness contributed to the end result: a nation with both a national territory and an international citizenry, exactly what Leo Strauss had in mind. Except for a few orthodox Jews, most Jews today see no contradiction between Judaism as a religion and Zionism as a nationalist project.

The question of whether such dialectical machinery was engineered by Yahweh or by B’nai B’rith is open to debate. But it can be seen as an inherent dynamic of Jewishness: the Jewish cognitive elites may find themselves divided on many issues, but since their choices are ultimately subordinated to the great metaphysical question, “Is it good for Jews?” there always comes a point when their oppositions are resolved in a way that reinforces their global position.

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With “what is good for the Jews” in mind, contradictions are easily resolved. Jewish intellectuals, for example, can be ethnic nationalists in Israel, and pro-immigration multiculturalists everywhere else. A paragon of this contradiction was Israel Zangwill, the successful author of the play The Melting Pot (1908), whose title has become a metaphor for American society, and whose Jewish hero makes himself the bard of assimilation by mixed marriages: “America is God’s Crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of Europe are melting and reforming.” The paradox is that when he was writing this, Zangwill was a leading figure of Zionism, that is, a movement affirming the impossibility of Jews living among Gentiles, and demanding that they be ethnically separated. (Zangwill is the author of another famous formula: “Palestine is a land without people for a people without land.”)

Although it appears to be contradictory for non-Jews, this dual standard is not necessarily so from the point of view of Jewish intellectuals. They may sincerely believe in their universalistic message addressed to the Goyim, while simultaneously believing sincerely that Jews should remain a separate people. The implicit logic is that it is good that Jews remain Jews in order to teach the rest of mankind to be universal, tolerant, anti-racists, immigrationnists, and caring for minorities (specially Jews). This logic falls under the “mission theory”, the secular version of the “messianic nation” theory: Jews, who have invented monotheism, the Ten Commandments and so on, have a moral obligation to keep educating the rest of humankind. What the “mission” entails is open to reversible interpretations. Rabbi Daniel Gordis, in Does the World Need Jews? claims that “Jews need to be different in order that they might play a quasi-subversive role in society [. . .] the goal is to be a contributing and respectful ‘thorn in the side’ of society.”[31]Daniel Gordis, Does the World Need Jews? Rethinking Chosenness and American Jewish Identity, Scribner, 1997, p. 177. That naturally tends to upset the Goyim, but it is for their good. It is to free them from their “false gods” that Jews are “a corrosive force”, also insists Douglas Rushkoff, author of Nothing Sacred: The Truth About Judaism.

Preaching universalism to the Goyim in the street while emphasizing ethnic nationalism at home is the great deception. It is the essence of crypto-Judaism and of its modern form, crypto-Zionism. It is so deeply ingrained that it has become a kind of collective instinct among many Jews. It can be observed in many situations. The following remark by historian Daniel Lindenberg illustrates that Jewish internationalists’ relation to Israel in the 20th century strongly resembled the Marranos’ relation to Judaism in pre-modern times:

“Anyone who has known Communist Jews, ex-Kominternists, or even some prominent representatives of the 1968 generation will know what frustrated crypto-Jewishness means: Here are men and women who, in principle, according to the ‘internationalist’ dogma, have stifled in themselves all traces of ‘particularism’ and ‘petty-bourgeois Jewish chauvinism,’ who are nauseated by Zionism, support Arab nationalism and the great Soviet Union—yet who secretly rejoice in Israel’s military victories, tell anti-Soviet jokes, and weep while listening to a Yiddish song. This goes on until the day when, like a Leopold Trepper, they can bring out their repressed Jewishness, sometimes becoming, like the Marranos of the past, the most intransigent of neophytes.”[32]Daniel Lindenberg, Figures d’Israël. L’identité juive entre marranisme et sionisme (1649–1998), Fayard, 2014, p. 10.

Zion and the New World Order

If Jews can be alternatively or even simultaneously nationalists (Zionists) and internationalists (communists, globalists, etc.), it is, in the last analysis, because this duality is inherent to the paradoxical nature of Israel. Let us not forget that until the foundation of the “Jewish state”, “Israel” was a common designation for the international Jewish community, for example when on March 24, 1933, the British Daily Express printed on its front-page: “The whole of Israel throughout the world is united in declaring an economic and financial war on Germany.”[33]Alison Weir, Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel, 2014, k. 3280–94. Until 1947, most American and European Jews were satisfied of being “Israelites”, members of a worldwide Israel. They saw the advantage of being a nation dispersed among nations. International Jewish organizations such as B’nai B’rith (Hebrew for “Children of the Covenant”) founded in New York in 1843, or the Alliance Israélite Universelle, founded in Paris in 1860, had no claim on Palestine.

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Even after 1947, most American Jews remained ambivalent about the new State of Israel, knowing perfectly well that to support it would make them vulnerable to the accusation of dual loyalty. It was only after the Six-Day War that American Jews began to support Israel more actively and openly. There were two reasons for this. First, Zionist control of the press had become such that American public opinion was easily persuaded that Israel had been the victim and not the aggressor in the war that led Israel to triple its territory. Secondly, after 1967, the crushing deployment of Israeli power against Egypt, a nation supported diplomatically by the USSR, enabled the Johnson administration to elevate Israel to a strategic asset in the Cold War. Norman Finkelstein explains:

“For American Jewish elites, Israel’s subordination to US power was a windfall. Jews now stood on the front lines defending America—indeed, ‘Western civilization’—against the retrograde Arab hordes. Whereas before 1967 Israel conjured the bogey of dual loyalty, it now connoted super-loyalty. […] After the 1967 war, Israel’s military élan could be celebrated because its guns pointed in the right direction—against America’s enemies. Its martial prowess might even facilitate entry into the inner sanctums of American power.”[34]Norman Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering, Verso, 2014, p. 6.

Israeli leaders, for their part, stopped blaming American Jews for not settling in Israel, and recognized the legitimacy of serving Israel while residing in the United States. In very revealing terms, Benjamin Ginsberg writes that already in the 1950s, “an accommodation was reached between the Jewish state in Israel and the Jewish state in America”; but it was after 1967 that the compromise became a consensus, as anti-Zionist Jews were marginalized and silenced.[35]Benjamin Ginsberg, Jews in American Politics: Essays, dir. Sandy Maisel, Rowman & Littlefield, 2004, p. 22. Thus was born a new Israel, whose capital was no longer only Tel Aviv but also New York; a transatlantic Israel, a nation without borders, delocalized. It was not really a novelty, but rather a new balance between two inseparable realities: the international Diaspora of Israelites, and the national State of Israelis.

Thanks to this powerful diaspora of virtual Israelis now entrenched in all levels of power in the US, France and many other nations, Israel is a very special nation indeed. And everyone can see that it has no intention of being an ordinary nation. Israel is destined to be an Empire. If Zionism is defined as the movement for the foundation of a Jewish State in Palestine, then what we see at work today may be called meta-Zionism, or super-Zionism. But there is no real need for such a new term, for Zionism, in fact, had always been about a new world order, under the mask of “nationalism”.

David Ben-Gurion, the “father of the nation”, was a firm believer in the mission theory, declaring: “I believe in our moral and intellectual superiority, in our capacity to serve as a model for the redemption of the human race.”[36]Arthur Hertzberg, The Zionist State, Jewish Publication Society, 1997, p. 94. In a statement published in the magazine Look on January 16, 1962, he predicted for the next 25 years:

“All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah.”[37]David Ben-Gurion and Amram Duchovny, David Ben-Gurion, In His Own Words, Fleet Press Corp., 1969, p. 116

That vision was passed on to the next generation. In October 2003, the highly symbolic King David Hotel hosted a “Jerusalem Summit”, whose participants comprised three acting Israeli ministers, including Benjamin Netanyahu, and Richard Perle as guest of honor. They signed a declaration that recognized Jerusalem’s “special authority to become a center of world’s unity,” and professed:

“We believe that one of the objectives of Israel’s divinely-inspired rebirth is to make it the center of the new unity of the nations, which will lead to an era of peace and prosperity, foretold by the Prophets.”[38]Official website: www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/declaration.php.

Zionists and the Bible

Both Ben-Gurion’s prophecy and the Jerusalem Declaration highlight the fact that Zionism is an international project based on the Bible. That Zionism is biblical doesn’t mean it is religious; to Zionists, the Bible is both a “national narrative” and a geopolitical program rather than a religious book (there is actually no word for “religion” in ancient Hebrew). Ben-Gurion was not religious; he never went to the synagogue and ate pork for breakfast. Yet he was intensely biblical. Dan Kurzman, who calls him “the personification of the Zionist dream,” titles each chapter of his biography (Ben-Gurion, Prophet of Fire, 1983) with a Bible quote. The preface begins like this:

“The life of David Ben-Gurion is more than the story of an extraordinary man. It is the story of a biblical prophecy, an eternal dream. […] Ben-Gurion was, in a modern sense, Moses, Joshua, Isaiah, a messiah who felt he was destined to create an exemplary Jewish state, a ‘light unto the nations’ that would help to redeem all mankind.”

For Ben-Gurion, writes Kurzman, the rebirth of Israel in 1948 “paralleled the Exodus from Egypt, the conquest of the land by Joshua, the Maccabean revolt.” Ben-Gurion himself emphasized: “There can be no worthwhile political or military education about Israel without profound knowledge of the Bible.”[39]Dan Kurzman, Ben-Gurion, Prophet of Fire, Touchstone, 1983, pp. 17–18, 22, 26–28. Ten days after declaring Israel’s independence, he wrote in his diary : “We will break Transjordan [Jordan], bomb Amman and destroy its army, and then Syria falls, and if Egypt will still continue to fight—we will bombard Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo.” Then he adds: “This will be in revenge for what they (the Egyptians, the Aramis and Assyrians) did to our forefathers during biblical times.”[40]Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Oneworld Publications, 2007, p. 144. Can you be more biblical than that ? Ben-Gurion was in no way a special case. His infatuation with the Bible was shared by almost every Zionist leader of his generation and the next. Moshe Dayan, the military hero of the Six-Day War, wrote a book entitled Living with the Bible (1978) in which he biblically justified Israel’s annexation of Arab territories. Naftali Bennet, Israeli minister of Education, has also recently justified the annexation of the West Bank by the Bible.

Christian will say that Zionists don’t read their Bible correctly. Obviously, they don’t read it with the pink Christian glasses. In Isaiah, for example, Christians find hope that, one day, people “will hammer their swords into plowshares and their spears into sickles” (Isaiah 2:4). But Zionists correctly start with the previous verses, which describe these messianic times as a Pax Judaica, when “all the nations” will pay tribute “to the mountain of Yahweh, to the house of the god of Jacob,” when “the Law will issue from Zion and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem,” so that Yahweh will “judge between the nations and arbitrate between many peoples.” Further down in the same book, they read:

“The riches of the sea will flow to you, the wealth of the nations come to you” (60:5); “For the nation and kingdom that will not serve you will perish, and the nations will be utterly destroyed” (60:12); “You will suck the milk of nations, you will suck the wealth of kings” (60:16); “You will feed on the wealth of nations, you will supplant them in their glory” (61:5-6);

Zionism cannot be a nationalist movement like other, because it resonates with the destiny of Israel as outlined in the Bible: “Yahweh your God will raise you higher than every other nation in the world” (Deuteronomy 28:1). Only by taking into account the biblical roots of Zionism can one understand that Zionism has always carried within it a hidden imperialist agenda. It may be true that Theodor Herzl and Max Nordau sincerely wished Israel to be “a nation like others,” as Gilad Atzmon explains.[41]Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, pp. 66-67. But still, when they called their movement “Zionism”, they used Jerusalem’s biblical name borrowed from the most imperialistic prophecies, and most notably Isaiah 2:3 quoted above.

Biblical prophecies outline Israel’s ultimate destiny, or meta-Zionism, whereas the historical books, and particularly the Book of Joshua, set the pattern for the first stage, the conquest of Palestine, or Zionism. As wrote Avigail Abarbanel in “Why I left the Cult,” the Zionist conquerors of Palestine “have been following quite closely the biblical dictate to Joshua to just walk in and take everything. […] For a supposedly non-religious movement it’s extraordinary how closely Zionism […] has followed the Bible.”[42]Avigail Abarbanel, “Why I left the Cult,” October 8, 2016, on mondoweiss.net In the same mood, Kim Chernin writes:

“I can’t count the number of times I read the story of Joshua as a tale of our people coming into their rightful possession of their promised land without stopping to say to myself, ‘but this is a history of rape, plunder, slaughter, invasion, and destruction of other peoples.’”[43]Kim Chernin, “The Seven Pillars of Jewish Denial.” Tikkun, Sept./Oct. 2002, quoted in MacDonald, Cultural Insurrections, op. cit., pp. 27-28.

A “history of genocide” would not be exaggerated, if we consider the treatment reserved to Canaanites: In Jericho, “They enforced the curse of destruction on everyone in the city: men and women, young and old, including the oxen, the sheep and the donkeys, slaughtering them all” (Joshua 6:21). The city of Ai met the same fate. Its inhabitants were all slaughtered, twelve thousand of them, “until not one was left alive and none to flee. […] When Israel had finished killing all the inhabitants of Ai in the open ground, and in the desert where they had pursued them, and when every single one had fallen to the sword, all Israel returned to Ai and slaughtered its remaining population” (8:22–25). Women were not spared. “For booty, Israel took only the cattle and the spoils of this town” (8:27). Then came to turn of the cities of Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir, and Hazor. In the whole land, Joshua “left not one survivor and put every living thing under the curse of destruction, as Yahweh, god of Israel, had commanded” (10:40).

It certainly helps to understand the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians to know that the Book of Joshua is considered a glorious chapter of Israel’s national narrative. And when Israeli leaders claim that their vision of the global future is based on the Hebrew Bible, we should take them seriously and study the Bible. It is helpful, for example, to be aware that Yahweh has designated to Israel “seven nations greater and mightier than you,” that “you must utterly destroy,” and “show no mercy to them.” As for their kings, “you shall make their name perish from under heaven” (Deuteronomy 7:1-2, 24). The destruction of the “Seven Nations,” also mentioned in Joshua 24:11, is considered a mitzvah in rabbinic Judaism, and by the great Maimonides in his Book of Commandments,[44]http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/96156...87.htm and it has remained a popular motif in Jewish culture. Knowing this will help to understand the neocon agenda for World War IV (as Norman Podhoretz names the current global conflict).[45]Norman Podhoretz, World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism, Vintage Books, 2008. General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Commander for NATO in Europe (he led the NATO agression against Serbia twenty years ago), wrote, and repeated in numerous occasions, that one month after September 11, 2001, a Pentagon general showed him a memo “that describes how we’re gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan and finishing off with Iran.”[46]Wesley Clark, Winning Modern Wars, Public Affairs, 2003, p. 130. Wesley Clark has managed to pass as a whistleblower, but I believe he belongs to what Gilad Atzmon sees as the Jewish controlled opposition, together with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now who interviewed him.[47]Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, p. 187-209. Only in 1999 has he revealed being the son of Benjamin Jacob Kanne and the proud descendant of a lineage of Kohen rabbis. It is hard to believe that he has never heard about the Bible’s “seven nations”. Is Clark a crypto-Zionist trying to write history in biblical terms, while blaming these wars on WASP Pentagon warmongers? Interestingly, in his September 20, 2001 speech, President Bush also cited seven “rogue states” for their support of global terrorism, but in his list, Cuba and North Korea replaced Lebanon and Somalia. It is because part of Bush’s entourage refused to include Lebanon and Somalia, while his neocon handlers insisted on keeping the number seven for its symbolic value? Whatever the explanation, I suspect that the importance of targeting exactly “seven nations” after 9/11 stems from the same biblical obsession as the need to have ten Nazis hanged on Purim day 1946 to match the ten sons of Haman hanged in the Book of Esther. Just like Rabbi Bernhard Rosenberg can now marvel at how prophetic the Book of Esther is,[48]Another example: Bernard Benyamin, Le Code d’Esther. Si tout était écrit…, First Editions, 2012. the idea is to “realize,” a few decades from now, that World War IV fulfilled Deuteronomy 7: the destruction of Israel’s seven enemy nations. Christian Zionists will be in extasy and praise “the Lord” (as their Bible translates YHWH). Of course, fulfilling prophecies does not always come easy: Isaiah 17:1, “Behold, Damascus will soon cease to be a city, it will become a heap of ruins,” is not quite done, yet.

The Solomon hoax

I believe that Gilad Atzmon is making a very important point when emphasizing:

“Israel defines itself as the Jewish state. In order to grasp Israel, its politics, its policies and the intrusive nature of its lobby, we must understand the nature of Jewishness.

And I believe that Jewishness is, at the core, the ideology of the Tanakh. There was no Jewishness before the Tanakh, and the Tanakh is the single ultimate root connecting all expressions of Jewishness, whether religious or secular—for what that distinction is worth. Jewishness would simply wither without the Tanakh.

Zionism is an expression of Jewishness. As we have seen, it is inherently imperialistic because it is biblical. I will now argue that it is also inherently deceptive because it is biblical. There are two aspects to the deceptive nature of the Tanakh: historical and metaphysical. To understand them, we need to know the context of its writing. The greatest part of the Tanakh, including the historical books, was edited during the exilic period, and reached its near-final form after Babylon had fallen under Persian rule in 539 BCE. That thesis, first put forward by Baruch Spinoza in 1670,[49]Benedict de Spinoza, Theological-political treatise, chapter 8, §11, Cambridge UP, 2007, pp. 126-128. has always met with fierce opposition from the Christian world, but it was accepted by the great British historian of civilizations Arnold J. Toynbee,[50]Arnold Toynbee, A Study of History, volume XII, Reconsiderations, Oxford University Press, 1961, p. 486, quoted on http://mailstar.net/toynbee.html and it is now getting the high ground.[51]Thomas Romer, The Invention of God, Harvard University Press, 2016. The Judean exiles, after having helped the Persians conquer Babylon, were rewarded by high offices at the Persian court, and obtained the right to return to Jerusalem and set up a government subject to Persia. The manner by which these Judeo-Babylonian Levites maneuvered the Persians’ imperial policy in support of their theocratic project for Palestine is unknown, but we can imagine it similar to the way the Zionists have hijacked the Anglo-American empire’s foreign policy in recent times; the edict of Cyrus the Great presented at the beginning of the Book of Ezra is comparable to the Balfour Declaration. In 458 BCE, eighty years after the return of the first exiles, Ezra, proud descendant of a line of Aaronite priests, went from Babylon to Jerusalem, mandated by the king of Persia and accompanied by some 1,500 followers. He was soon joined by Nehemiah, a Persian court official of Judean origin. As “Secretary of the Law,” Ezra carried with him the newly redacted Torah, and Spinoza plausibly suggested that he was the head of the scribal school that had compiled and edited most of the Tanakh.

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The history of Israel and Judea that we have today was written as justification for that proto-Zionist enterprise, which implied the usurpation of the name and heritage of the ancient kingdom of Israel by the Judeans. Of course, not everything in the historical books is pure invention: ancient materials were used, but the main narrative that aggregates them is built on a post-exilic ideological construct. The central piece of that narrative is the glorious kingdom of Solomon, reaching from the Euphrates to the Nile (1Kings 5:1), with its magnificent temple and its lavish royal palace in Jerusalem (described in detail in 1Kings 5-8). Solomon had “seven hundred wives of royal rank and three hundred concubines” (11:3) and “received gifts from all the kings in the world, who had heard of his wisdom” (5:14). We know today that Solomon’s kingdom is a complete fabrication, a mythical past projected as the mirror image of a desired future, a fictitious justification for the prophecy of its “restoration”. Even the idea that Jerusalem, located in Judea, was once the capital of Israel is blatantly false: Israel never had any other capital than Samaria. Twentieth-century archeology has definitively exposed the fallacy: there is no trace whatsoever of Solomon and his “united kingdom”.[52]Read for example Israel Finkelstein and Neil Adher Silberman, David and Solomon: In Search of the Bible’s Sacred Kings and the Roots of the Western Tradition, S&S International, 2007.

The scam is quite evident from the way the authors of the Books of Kings, aware of the absolute baselessness of their story, back it with the grotesque testimony of a totally spurious Queen of Sheba:

“The report I heard in my own country about your wisdom in handling your affairs was true then! Until I came and saw for myself, I did not believe the reports, but clearly I was told less than half: for wisdom and prosperity, you surpass what was reported to me. How fortunate your wives are! How fortunate these courtiers of yours, continually in attendance on you and listening to your wisdom! Blessed be Yahweh your God who has shown you his favour by setting you on the throne of Israel! Because of Yahweh’s everlasting love for Israel, he has made you king to administer law and justice.” (1 Kings 10:6-9)[53]All Bible quotes are from the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible, which has the advantage of not altering YHWH into “the Lord,” as most other English translations have done for unscholarly reasons.

When Ben-Gurion declared before the Knesset three days after invading the Sinai in 1956, that what was at stake was “the restoration of the kingdom of David and Solomon,”[54]Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, Pluto Press, 1994, p. 10 . and when Israeli leaders continue to dream of a “Greater Israel” of biblical proportions, they are simply perpetuating a two-thousand-year-old deception—self-deception perhaps, but deception all the same.

Deeper than the historical deception, at the very core of the Bible, lies a more essential metaphysical deception which goes a long way towards explaining the ambivalence of tribalism and universalism so typical of Jewishness. Biblical historian Philip Davies wrote that “the ideological structure of the biblical literature can only be explained in the last analysis as a product of the Persian period,”[55]Philip Davies, In Search of “Ancient Israel”: A Study in Biblical Origins, Journal of the Study of the Old Testament, 1992, p. 94. and the central idea of that “ideological structure” is biblical monotheism. In the pre-exilic strata of the Bible, Yahweh is a national god among others: “For all peoples go forward, each in the name of its god, while we go forward in the name of Yahweh our god for ever and ever,” says pre-exilic prophet Micah (4:5). What sets Yahweh apart from other national gods is his jealousy, which supposes the existence of other gods: “You shall have no other gods to rival me” (Exodus 20:3). Only in the Persian period does Yahweh really become the only existing God, and, by logical consequence, the creator of the Universe—Genesis 1 being demonstrably taken from Mesopotamian myths.

That transformation of national Yahweh into the “God of heaven and earth” is a case of crypsis, an imitation of Persian religion, for the purpose of political and cultural ascendency. The Persians were predominantly monotheistic under the Achaemenids, worshipers of the Supreme God Ahura Mazda, whose representations and invocations can be seen on royal inscriptions. Herodotus—who, by the way, travelled through Syria-Palestine around 450 BCE without hearing about Jews—wrote about the Persians’ customs:

“they have no images of the gods, no temples nor altars, and consider the use of them a sign of folly. [….] Their wont, however, is to ascend the summits of the loftiest mountains, and there to offer sacrifice to Zeus, which is the name they give to the whole circuit of the firmament.” (Histories, I.131)

Persian monotheism was remarkably tolerant of other cults. In contrast, Judean monotheism is exclusivist because, although Yahweh now claims to be the universal God, he remains the ethnocentric, jealous god of Israel. And so Persian influence was not the only factor in the development of biblical monotheism, that is, the claim that “the god of Israel” is the One and Only God: Yahweh’s sociopathic jealousy, his murderous hatred of all other gods and goddesses, was an important ingredient from pre-exilic times: being the only god worthy of worship is tantamount to being the only god, and therefore God. In 1Kings 18, we see Yahweh compete with the great Syrian Baal Shamem (“Lord of Heaven”) for the title of True God, by means of a holocaust contest ending with the slaughter of four hundred prophets of Baal. Later on we read of the Judean general Jehu who, having overthrown and slaughtered Israel’s dynasty of King Omri, summoned all the priests of Baal for “a great sacrifice to Baal,” and, as sacrifice, massacred them all. “Thus Jehu rid Israel of Baal” (2Kings 10,18-28). This informs us on how Yahweh supposedly became Supreme God instead of Baal: by the physical elimination of all the priests of Baal, that is, exactly the same way that Jehu became king of Israel by exterminating the family of the legitimate king, as well as “all his leading men, his close friends, his priests; he did not leave a single one alive” (2Kings 10:11).

Yet these legendary stories have come to us in a post-exilic redaction, and although they may reflect an earlier competition between Yahweh and Baal, the metaphysical claim that Yahweh is the supreme God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth, only became an explicit creed and a cornerstone of Judaism from the Persian period. It was a means of assimilation-dissimulation into the Persian commonwealth, comparable to the way Reformed Judaism mimicked Christianity in the 19th century.

The Book of Ezra and the prostitute of Jericho

The process of how Yahweh was transformed from national to universal god, while remaining intensely chauvinistic, can actually be documented from the Book of Ezra. It contains extracts from several edicts attributed to succeeding Persian kings. All are fake, but their content is indicative of the politico-religious strategy deployed by the Judean exiles for their proto-Zionist lobbying. In the first edict, Cyrus the Great declares that “Yahweh, the God of Heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and has appointed me to build him a Temple in Jerusalem,” then goes on to allow “his [Yahweh’s] people to “go up to Jerusalem, in Judah, and build the Temple of Yahweh, the god of Israel, who is the god in Jerusalem” (Ezra 1:2–3). We understand that both phrases refer to the same entity, but the duality is significant. We find the same paradoxical designation of Yahweh as both “God of Heaven” and “god of Israel in Jerusalem” in the Persian edict authorizing the second wave of return. It is now King Artaxerxes who asks “the priest Ezra, Secretary of the Law of the God of Heaven,” to offer a gigantic holocaust to “the god of Israel who resides in Jerusalem” (7:12-15). We later find twice the same expression “God of Heaven” (Elah Shemaiya) interspersed with seven references to “your god,” that is, “the god of Israel” (keep in mind that capitalization is irrelevant here, being a convention of modern translators). “God of Heaven” appears one more time in the book of Ezra, and it is, again, in an edict signed by the Persian king: Darius confirms Cyrus’s edict and recommends that the Israelites “offer sacrifices acceptable to the God of Heaven and pray for the life of the king and his sons” (6:10). Everywhere else the book of Ezra only refers to the “god of Israel” (four times), “Yahweh, the god of your fathers” (once), and “our god” (ten times). In other words, according to the author of the book of Ezra, only the kings of Persia imagine that Yahweh is “the God of Heaven”—a common title of the universal Ahura Mazda—while for the Jews, Yahweh is merely their god, the “god of Israel,” the god of their fathers, in short, a national god. Indeed, imperial authorities are told that the Jerusalem Temple is dedicated to the God of Heaven, although the idea seems irrelevant to the Judeans themselves: when the Judeans are challenged the right to (re)build their temple by the local Persian governor, they tell him: “We are the servants of the God of Heaven and Earth” (5:11) and refer to Cyrus’s edict. And when Nehemiah wants to convince the Persian king let him go to Judea to oversee the rebuilding of Jerusalem, he offers a prayer “to the God of Heaven” (Nehemiah 2:4); but once in Jerusalem, he asks his fellow Jews to swear allegiance to “Yahweh our god” (10:30).

This unmistakable pattern in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah may be taken as a clue of the deepest secret of Judaism, and a key to understanding the real nature of “Jewish universalism”: for the Jews, Yahweh is the god of the Jews, whereas Gentiles must be told that he is the supreme and only God. “In the heart of any pious Jew, God is a Jew,” writes Maurice Samuel in You Gentiles (1924), while to Gentiles, Yahweh must be presented as the universal God who happens to prefer Jews.[56]Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, New York, 1924 (on archive.org), pp. 74–75. The pattern is repeated in the book of Daniel when Nebuchadnezzar, impressed by Daniel’s oracle, prostrates himself and exclaims: “Your god is indeed the God of gods, the Master of kings” (Daniel 2:47).

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The hypothesis that the dual nature of Yahweh (god of Israel for the Jews, God of the Universe for Gentiles) was intentionally encrypted into the Hebrew Bible becomes more plausible when we find the same pattern in the Book of Joshua. The book was probably written before the Exile, possibly under king Josiah (639-609 BCE). Its original author never refers to Yahweh simply as “God,” and never implies that he is anything but “the god of Israel” (9:18, 13:14, 13:33, 14:14, 22:16). Even Yahweh calls himself “the god of Israel” (7:13). When Joshua speaks to the Israelites, he speaks of “Yahweh your god” (1:11, 1:12, 1:15, 3:3, 3:9, 4:5, 4:23-24, 8:7, 22:3-4, 22:5, 23:3,5,8,11, 24:2). The Israelites collectively refer to “Yahweh our god” (22:19), or individually as “Yahweh my god” (14:8). Israel’s enemies speak to Joshua about “Yahweh your god” (9:9), and he tells them about “Yahweh my god” (9:23). Yahweh is once called “lord of the whole earth” by Joshua (3:13), and once “the god of gods” by enthusiastic Israelites (22:22), but none of this can be considered to contain any explicit theological claim that Yahweh is the Creator: it is more like the Persian king calling himself king of kings and ruler of the world. Neither can the mention of an altar built by the Israelites as “a witness between us that Yahweh is god” (22:34) be taken to mean anything more than “Yahweh is god between us.” If the Yahwist scribe of the Book of Joshua had believed Yahweh to be the universal God, he would have written of whole cities being converted rather than exterminated for the glory of Yahweh.

The only explicit profession of faith that Yahweh is the supreme God, in the whole Book of Joshua, is coming from a foreigner, just like in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. Not a king, this time, but a prostitute. Rahab is a prostitute in Jericho, who infiltrates the invading Israelites into the city. As justification for betraying her own people, she tells the Israelites that “Yahweh your god is God both in Heaven above and on Earth beneath” (2:11), something that neither the narrator, nor Yahweh, nor any Israelite in the book ever claims. Rahab’s profession of faith is likely to be a post-exilic addition to the book, for it actually conflicts with her more prosaic motivation:

“we are afraid of you and everyone living in this country has been seized with terror at your approach. […] give me a sure sign of this: that you will spare the lives of my father and mother, my brothers and sisters and all who belong to them, and will preserve us from death.” (2:9-12).

In the final redaction, the pattern is the same as in the Book of Ezra, and reveals the secret of post-exilic Judaism: To the Jews, Yahweh is their national god, but it is good for the Jews that Gentiles (whether kings or prostitutes) regard Yahweh as the “God of Heaven”. It has worked wonderfully: Christians today believe that the God of humankind decided to manifest himself as the jealous “god of Israel” from the time of Moses, whereas the real historical process is the reverse: it is the tribal “god of Israel” who impersonated the God of humankind at the time of Ezra—while continuing to prefer Jews.

Worshipping a national god with imperialistic ambitions, while pretending to the Gentiles that they are worshipping the One True God, is manufacturing a catastrophic misunderstanding. A public scandal emerged in 167 CE, when the Hellenistic emperor Antiochos IV dedicated the temple in Jerusalem to Zeus Olympios, the Greek name of the supreme God. He had been led to understand that Yahweh and Zeus were two names for the same cosmic God, the Heavenly Father of all mankind. But the Jewish Maccabees who led the rebellion knew better: Yahweh may be the Supreme God, but only Jews are intimate with Him, and any way the Pagans worship Him is an abomination. Moreover, although the Israelites claimed that their Temple was dedicated to the God of all mankind, they also firmly believed that any non-Jew entering it should be put to death. This fact alone betrays the true nature of Hebrew monotheism: it was a deception from the beginning, the ultimate metaphysical crypsis. Only when that biblical hoax is exposed to the world will Zion start to lose its symbolic power. For it is the original source of the psychopathic bond by which Israel controls the world.

Notes

[1] Andrew Cockburn, Rumsfeld: His Rise, His fall, and Catastrophic Legacy, Scribner, 2011, p. 219. Cockburn claims to have heard this repeated by “friends of the family.”

[2] Leo Strauss, “Why we Remain Jews”, quoted in Shadia Drury, Leo Strauss and the American Right, St. Martin’s Press, 1999 (on archive.org), p. 31-43.

[3] Kevin MacDonald, Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilizations, Jewish Influence, and Anti-Semitism, The Occidental Press, 2007, p. 122.

[4] Kevin McDonald, Cultural Insurrection, op. cit., p. 66.

[5] Benjamin Balint, Running Commentary: The Contentious Magazine That Transformed the Jewish Left into the Neoconservative Right, Public Affairs, 2010.

[6] Congress Bi-Weekly, quoted by Philip Weiss, “30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views,” Mondoweiss.net, May 23, 2007: mondoweiss.net/2007/05/30_years_ago_ne.html

[7] http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

[8] Elliott Abrams, Faith or Fear: How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America, Simon & Schuster, 1997, p. 181.

[9] Patrick J. Buchanan, “Whose War? A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest,” The American Conservative, March 24, 2003, www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/

[10] Stephen Sniegoski, The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel, Enigma Edition, 2008, p. 156.

[11] http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wilkerson.html

[12] Stephen Sniegoski, The Transparent Cabal, op. cit., p. 120.

[13] April 11, 2002, quoted in Justin Raimondo, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection, iUniverse, 2003, p. 19.

[14] April 26, 2013, on MSNBC, watch on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlatDWqh0o.

[15] Noted by Inter-Press Service on March 29, 2004, under the title “U.S.: Iraq war is to protect Israel, says 9/11 panel chief,” and repeated by United Press International the next day, on www.upi.com.

[16] Norman Podhoretz, Breaking Ranks: A Political Memoir, Harper & Row , 1979, p. 335.

[17] Translated from the French edition, Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane. Judaïsme et modernité, Seuil, 2011, pp. 119-120, 149–151.

[18] Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 96–98, 141–143; Nathan Wachtel, Entre Moïse et Jésus. Études marranes (XVe-XIXe siècle), CNRS éditions, 2013, pp. 54–65.

[19] Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 483, 347.

[20] Yirmiyahu Yovel, L’Aventure marrane, op. cit., pp. 149–151.

[21] Elliott Horowitz, Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence, Princeton University Press, 2006.

[22] Hannah Arendt calls him a “race fanatic” in The Origins of Totalitarianism, vol. 1: Antisemitism, Meridian Books, 1958, pp. 309–310.

[23] Stanley Weintraub, Disraeli: A Biography, Hamish Hamilton, 1993, p. 579.

[24] Kevin MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism, Praeger, 1998, kindle 2013, k. 5876–82.

[25] Gilad Atzmon, The Wandering Who? A Study of Jewish Identity Politics, Zero Books, 2011, pp. 55–56.

[26] Moses Hess, Rome and Jerusalem: A Study in Jewish Nationalism, 1918 (on archive.org), pp. 71, 27.

[27] Moses Hess, Rome and Jerusalem, op. cit., p. 74.

[28] Quoted in Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), 50th Anniversary Edition, Infinity Publishing, 2003, p. 14.

[29] Kaufmann Kohler, Jewish Theology, Systematically and Historically Considered, Macmillan, 1918 (on www.gutenberg.org), pp. 290, 378–380.

[30] Quoted in Kevin MacDonald, Separation and Its Discontents, op. cit., k. 5463–68.

[31] Daniel Gordis, Does the World Need Jews? Rethinking Chosenness and American Jewish Identity, Scribner, 1997, p. 177.

[32] Daniel Lindenberg, Figures d’Israël. L’identité juive entre marranisme et sionisme (1649–1998), Fayard, 2014, p. 10.

[33] Alison Weir, Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel, 2014, k. 3280–94.

[34] Norman Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering, Verso, 2014, p. 6.

[35] Benjamin Ginsberg, Jews in American Politics: Essays, dir. Sandy Maisel, Rowman & Littlefield, 2004, p. 22.

[36] Arthur Hertzberg, The Zionist State, Jewish Publication Society, 1997, p. 94.

[37] David Ben-Gurion and Amram Duchovny, David Ben-Gurion, In His Own Words, Fleet Press Corp., 1969, p. 116

[38] Official website: www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/declaration.php.

[39] Dan Kurzman, Ben-Gurion, Prophet of Fire, Touchstone, 1983, pp. 17–18, 22, 26–28.

[40] Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Oneworld Publications, 2007, p. 144.

[41] Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, pp. 66-67.

[42] Avigail Abarbanel, “Why I left the Cult,” October 8, 2016, on mondoweiss.net

[43] Kim Chernin, “The Seven Pillars of Jewish Denial.” Tikkun, Sept./Oct. 2002, quoted in MacDonald, Cultural Insurrections, op. cit., pp. 27-28.

[44] http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

[45] Norman Podhoretz, World War IV: The Long Struggle Against Islamofascism, Vintage Books, 2008.

[46] Wesley Clark, Winning Modern Wars, Public Affairs, 2003, p. 130.

[47] Gilad Atzmon, Being in Time: A Post-Political Manifesto, Skyscraper, 2017, p. 187-209.

[48] Another example: Bernard Benyamin, Le Code d’Esther. Si tout était écrit…, First Editions, 2012.

[49] Benedict de Spinoza, Theological-political treatise, chapter 8, §11, Cambridge UP, 2007, pp. 126-128.

[50] Arnold Toynbee, A Study of History, volume XII, Reconsiderations, Oxford University Press, 1961, p. 486, quoted on http://mailstar.net/toynbee.html

[51] Thomas Romer, The Invention of God, Harvard University Press, 2016.

[52] Read for example Israel Finkelstein and Neil Adher Silberman, David and Solomon: In Search of the Bible’s Sacred Kings and the Roots of the Western Tradition, S&S International, 2007.

[53] All Bible quotes are from the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible, which has the advantage of not altering YHWH into “the Lord,” as most other English translations have done for unscholarly reasons.

[54] Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, Pluto Press, 1994, p. 10 .

[55] Philip Davies, In Search of “Ancient Israel”: A Study in Biblical Origins, Journal of the Study of the Old Testament, 1992, p. 94.

[56] Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, New York, 1924 (on archive.org), pp. 74–75.

 
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  1. Curiouser says:

    Wow. What a well researched analysis of a topic many write on but few come at from this angle. Definitely going to be buying the book.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Mr. Augie
  2. The OT is the old deal.
    The NT is the new deal.
    The jews are under God’s wrath.
    The jews rejected the Son of God and crucified Him.
    That is why the temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
    Nothing has changed since that time, in terms of the relationship
    between God and the jewish people.

  3. luke2236 says:

    Very well researched, but based on a false premise/lack of understanding of an imperative truth – jews are NOT, never were, never will be True Israelites. They know it, they admit it among themselves [see the jewish encyclopedia for example] yet they consistently dupe the goy with this falsehood. In fact, this falsehood is the bedrock of their parasitic existence in white, TRUE Israelite lands. Without this lie, the goy would eventually wake up and expel them, as well as refuse to pay their bills and fight wars for them.
    The jew does not follow the Bible in any form or fashion other than consistently trying to twist it to fit their propaganda and continue to dupe the goy. They admit the same; the whole of their ‘study’ of Scripture is solely an attempt to use it against us, those to whom it was written about and for. The jew looks to the jew himself as god and follows the babylonian talmud – ‘the traditions of me- for the ‘legal’ guidance of their life. The kol nidre itself is proof enough that the jew has no regard for our Bible.
    Rightly did Jesus say to the jews ‘you are of your father the devil’.

  4. On a less exalted note, I’ve long found it a convincing theory that as Jews have ceased to take Judaism seriously and have become culturally almost indistinguishable from gentile whites, Israel and Zionism have become increasingly important as the sole remaining touchstone of Jewish identity. Like as not, a modern American Jew has only his loyalty to Israel as evidence that he remains a good Jew.

    For most Jews, Judaism and its strictures have ceased to be compelling. One can get modern secular Jews to eat pork, or marry gentiles, or cease practicing their religion entirely; but for that very reason, there are few who are prepared to renounce Israel outright.

    It’s all they have left.

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  5. This important article which deserves careful review but At the very outset and only after q quick first reading I see several paradoxes. While the JEWS had been at the forefront of dismantling the institutional relationship between Religion and the State from eliminating School Prayers (Christian) to abortion,gay marriage, lgbt rights etc. ALL on the contention of the obligatory separation of the state from any religious ties. Yet Jewish Zionism which derives from a (fake) mythical RELIGIOUS biblical narrative has become the center axis for USA Foreign Policies (disasters)in the World. It would important to note that since Roman Times the exercise of Military Imperial powers was strictly on the basis of National/Imperial INTERESTS , NOT (false contruct religious dogmas)…For the Romans to pursue a imperial policy based on religious objectives of any particular group(s) It would had been a disaster and IT is for the USA….

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    , @Anon
    , @Chris Paul
  6. Nehlen says:

    Bravo. Outstandingly well done article. I’ll be purchasing more than one of the referenced books to dive deeper into this subject.

  7. Mr. Hack says:

    Worshipping a national god with imperialistic ambitions, while pretending to the Gentiles that they are worshipping the One True God, is manufacturing a catastrophic misunderstanding.

    Didn’t Jesus Christ’s ministry here on earth put the final kibosh on this premise?

    There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Galatian 3:28

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    , @Anon
  8. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Martin Luther

    While the JEWS had been at the forefront of dismantling the institutional relationship between Religion and the State from eliminating School Prayers (Christian) to abortion,gay marriage, lgbt rights etc. ALL on the contention of the obligatory separation of the state from any religious ties.

    this is what they claimed all along and i used to believe them for the longest time but if i look back now it was just a war on Christianity

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    , @Robjil
  9. For the moment I will only make this observation. The UN did not base their establishment of Israel on the promises of the OT – certainly not formally. And nothing about the state of Israelie relations with God makes her exempt from international law. And to my knowledge nothing about the current rules regarding international law demand that Israel do anything to disobey God.

    So if the article is intended to be informative – ok. But what of a prescription is intended to promote, if any is unknown to me.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  10. mcohen says:

    Laurent

    Judaism has survived in all its different forms for one reason only and that reason is simply that it elevates a human being to a higher plane.
    I know for a fact that we are now in the end times and the prophecies have come true as stated a long time ago.When scientists talk about the coming extinctions i suggest you take note.

    The other night my wife and i went out to dinner.A trendy restaurant,mostly for 30 somethings.As i sat there looking around at all of them enjoying themselves i felt an incredible sadness that there future was gone.My generation,i am 61, had the best life on earth had to offer and we have destroyed the future.

    I suggest to you,laurent,if you are not jewish,then convert to Judaism and pray that Lord saves you from the coming apocalypse.

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  11. Why do we let these living fossils called Jews exert so much power over our country?

    BTW, if you want to get to the truth about some fringe Christian belief, ask yourself what an atheist would say about it. The answer will point you in the right direction.

    For example, what would an atheist say about the evangelical nuttiness in the U.S. that Israel’s existence fulfills some spooky “bible prophecy.” He would say that Israel does nothing of the sort. Instead it shows the ordinary reality that people can get ideas from books, in this case the bible and Zionist propaganda published a century ago, and then use these ideas as inspirations or guides for building real things which more or less resemble them. Robots first appeared as an imaginary technology in science fiction, for example, before the nerds who grew up reading these stories studied engineering and started to build real robots.

  12. Icy Blast says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I have more than once cited this particular Scriptural passage to “American Exceptionalists” and “Christian Zionists” but they are emphatic, even violent, in their rejection of it. It seems that the weight of “American” propaganda has crushed their hearts and minds. Their consciences have been seared by a hot iron.

  13. Seraphim says:

    The Book of Isaiah is called ‘The Fifth Evangil”, because it announced the ‘good news’ of the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of the Christ.
    The passage “the Law will issue from Zion and the Word of Yahweh from Jerusalem,” is referring to Jesus who is the ‘Word of God’. Had Isaiah referred to the future glories of ‘Zionism’, the Jews would not have sawn him in half for blasphemy.
    The Christ begins his ministry reading a passage from Isaiah:
    ““The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
    because he has anointed me
    to proclaim good news to the poor.
    He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
    and recovery of sight for the blind,
    to set the oppressed free,
    to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor”.
    Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  14. Wally says:
    @anon

    said:
    ” it was just a war on Christianity”

    Yes it was and still is.

    ‘Separation of Christians and state’, but no separation of Jews and state:

    30 ft. menorah on White House lawn:

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  15. Matt07924 says:

    There is no Jewish right to the promised land…that right ended in 70AD during the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the slaughter of most of the Judahites/Levites during the siege. Any survivors were sold into slavery and/or intermarried and are no longer part of the blood line. Most of the Jewish people nowadays cannot trace their lineage back to any of the 12 tribes…they are mostly Eastern European in ethnicity. Ironically, the Palestinians whom the Jews are persecuting are closer in lineage to Abraham (Semite) than the modern-day Jews are!

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  16. Franz says:

    the true nature of Hebrew monotheism: it was a deception from the beginning

    Yessir!

    Even the Romans figured it out:

    “…the historian Valerius Maximus records that about the year 139 B.C., the Praetor of Foreigners, C Cornilius Hipallus, expelled from Rome certain Jews who were “trying to corrupt Roman morals by a pretended cult of Sabazean Jove’. The inference is that the Praetor did not expel them for a legitimate worship pf this god, but because they foisted novelties on the Thracian cult — probably circumcision, which was regarded by the Roman’s as self-mutilation and a corruption of morals — for they admitted aliens to their Sabbaths.”

    — Robert Graves, The White Goddess, chapter 18.

  17. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Hey Jew-worshiper, if the OT is so “old deal,” why did the Jew Testament writers included approximately 250 express Old Testament quotations, and if one includes indirect or partial quotations, more than 1,000?

  18. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Not really. Jesus said: “”I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Dodge that.

  19. Oh well, now I’m satisfied. There had not been an article on Jooooooooz, their destructiveness & plotting… for such a long time. I felt it was something……missing.

    Now, I’m at peace.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @jacques sheete
  20. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Martin Luther

    Jews? LOL Dismantling the institutional relationship between Religion and the State is part of the Constitution; the First Amendment built that Wall of Separation.

    I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    Thomas Jefferson, 1802
    http://loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

    But you are correct that biblical narrative has become the center axis for USA Foreign Policies.

    “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” (Romans 15:27)

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @anon
  21. By the way- why bother to write a long, ill researched & tendentious article? Why not give us all some fun, so we can all laugh at these absurd nosey conspirators…

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  22. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @luke2236

    Jews are NOT? Jew Testament disagrees. A sampling of what you’re up against:

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”
    • Acts 3:25 “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’”
    • Romans 1:16 “The Jew first.”
    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”

    Try, try as you might, attempting to de-Jew Christianity is like trying to dehydrate water.

    “Christianity, sprung from Jewish roots and comprehensible only as a growth on this soil, represents the counter-movement to any morality of breeding, of race, privilege: it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence. Christianity—the revaluation of all Aryan values, the victory of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor and base, the general revolt of all the downtrodden, the wretched, the failures, the less favored, against ‘race:’ the undying chandala hatred is disguised as a religion of love.”

    Friedrich Nietzsche

  23. Anon43 says:

    An excellent, well-written analysis. Thanks for that bibliography.

  24. Robjil says:
    @anon

    I agree it is joke.

    Big Menorahs are all over the place in December. Menorahs are a religious symbol, is OK.

    Seven nations to destroy theme comes Deuteronomy 7.1-2, is OK.

    Jerusalem “must” be the capitol because of the Old testament, is OK.

    500000 Iraqi children dying from US sanctions, is OK since it is related to Destroy seven nations/ Amalek Old testament themes.

    Noahide Laws signed by George Bush at the White Houss, Sr on March 26 1991, is OK.

    There are thousands, perhaps six million OKs for Jewish religious themes. It has been that way for over a hundred years.

  25. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    its more like as jews became secularized their religion morphed into is it good for the jews. Israel is the jews emergency exit strategy so its good for the jews, anything bad for their hosts is good for the jews.

    jews are not really leftists sure they destroyed russia and eastern europe with communism but they destroyed america and western europe with capitalism cap and com jews work together. good white leftism seeks to improve things usually naively, jew leftism is wrecker leftism, but jews often put whites in charge of their leftist structures or take over white leftists structures they put some do good cause on the outside while wrecking is their real goal this is why so many whites jonn forces they are naive do gooder who think the jews are allies in this when really the whites are the jews frontmen.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  26. mongo77 says: • Website
    @Robert Dolan

    except they are non believers and are condemned according to scripture

  27. mongo77 says: • Website
    @Anon

    Galatians 3:28 King James Version (KJV)

    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. this is from the new covenant..the jews are under the old covenant [torah] [old testament christians are under a new covenant,new testament was written for christians not jews.. old covenant is obsolete….modern church mixes old with new…mixing law with grace is confusion….

  28. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    we are the same age and i watched you jews destroy america front row nyc arty intellectual family. used to make excuses and explanation used to think you couldn’t really hurt us so why make a big deal besides you were likeable despite being the worst commies and capitalists.
    yeah youre right end is nigh but not our end we goys will be fine it that time again when jews outjew themselves and get caught. despite having many jewish friends when youre loaded into cargo planes to fight for your lives in israel without US military i wont lift a finger, you all did this to us on purpose youre two faced self centered arrogant shits, youre sociopaths likable monsters.
    You did this in europe and used your wiles and american naivete and generousness to save you you had an opportunity to assimilate but you immediately began the same shit. granted its pretty clever but really not so much as you think its just that we euros are a good people and find it really hard to imagine such an evil people is possible so we allow it for so long which of course causes the final reckoning to be more painful this time you have involved hundreds of millions of third worlders you thought would serve as your proxy army, thats not going to happen they will mostly flee as soon as the war begins. One thing is certain youll never be allowed out of the middle east again and its doubtful you will be able to survive there

  29. @Anon

    Anon, does it weigh on your mind heavily that someday you will bow and confess that Jesus, a Jew, is Lord? After all the hatred within you destroys you as a person, in the end you are still left with Jesus, a Jew, to contend and come to terms with. Ironic, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
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  30. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Your mission here is … what?

    Bardon Kaldian (12/22/2015):

    “2. why do you think that Trump would be a puppet to Israel ? No US president has been so far. Trump is an American nationalist & Netanyahu is on the same wave-length (himself being, like Trump is, a race realist & a nationalist)- and that’s all. Trump was booed by American Jews when he told them explicitly that he wouldn’t recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.”

  31. Of course Judaism is biblical and as for religion (Bond with God) there has only ever been one religion and it was established by God Himself and that is the religion of Jesus Christ.

    In the old testament there are over 300 prophecies about Jesus Christ. The old testament Jews received only a partial revelation but the revelation they received is as truthful and pertinent today as it was back then as morality never changes.

    Of course, the old covenant/ has been superseded by the new covenant but that does not negate the fact that there has only ever been one religion. They who think there are many religions must wrestle with the truth that God is one, not many, and that He only created one bond with Him that grew ever larger over time – from a few persons, to a family, to a tribe, to tribes, to a nation until the Incarnation of Jesus Christ which heralded a Universal (Catholic) covenant/church.

    • Replies: @Faraway
    , @ploni almoni
  32. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    Echoes of history, you are jerking off again! Do not exaggerate, it enfeebles the brain.

  33. The key to understanding the zionists control over America is found in their privately owned FED which creates money out of thin air and creates debt with every counterfeit dollar created and charges we goyim interest on any gains on this ether created money and is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    The zionist owned FED is the biggest scam/hoax/ripoff/theft in the history of America and is one of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto, zionism = communism=judaism!

    If anyone is interested in how the zionists took control of America read The Protocols of Zion

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  34. Zumbuddi says:
    @mcohen

    Was it a kosher restaurant?

    Ribs joint?

    Chipotle?

    Inquiring gastronomes want to know: What foods most likely portend armagedfon?

    • Replies: @mcohen
  35. Isaiah 48 says:

    48 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the Lord, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.

    2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The Lord of hosts is his name.

    Things to note, This Israel is from the waters of Judah. Water as in the water that suspends a child in birth, so they are birthed of Judah. The term Jew is short for Judah. The first time the word Jew is used in the Bible is when the tribe of Judah (Jews) are fighting the northern 10 tribes of Israel which had broken away. So one could say they are birthed from the Jews. They make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth or righteousness. If not in truth then they must lie, and not in righteousness, so they must be evil. Now the Identifier, they call themselves after the holy city which is Jerusalem or otherwise known as Zion. Here it is predicted that a group who would call themselves by a name of Jerusalem or “Zionist,” and it was predicted over 2000 years ago. One last point, what aspect of the Lord do they look to? The Lord of hosts (armies). Of all the different aspects of the Lord they look to the military aspect.

    (see britam.org for more information concerning the house of Jacob or house of Israel)

  36. anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    I wish I could write as eloquent a posting as the previous comments 1 and 2 who do summarize so perfectly the basis for jews in both the past and present times. Without question they are the Devil’s Children and scum of humanity. They deserved what they have gotten in the past and most certainly will get more in the future. They are a sophisticated force for Evil on this Earth. However it ends, it would End Well. The only difference is whether it will be the Demise of the Few or the Demise of All.

  37. Zumbuddi says:
    @mcohen

    “Judaism has survived in all its different forms for one reason only and that reason is simply that – – –

    – – –“There’s a sucker born every minute.” – P T Barnum

    But seriously folks — the key phrase is
    “. . .In all its different forms,” just like Guyenot wrote: mimetic crypsis.

  38. AaronB says:

    Just want to touch on one aspect mentioned in this article –

    One of the greatest strength of Jews is that they unite opposites and don’t do extreme one sidedness – every aspect of life is considered legitimate and useful in some sphere and has its place and function. So they are both nationalists and universalists, and reap the benefits of both. This creates a robust many sided culture resistant to shocks – antifragile, in Talebs parlance.

    The great weakness of Europeans is that they are dualists – you must choose between rigid opposites and develop one side to an extreme. This European ‘logic’ creates a weak culture and deprives one of many sources of strength and adaptation. Currently European culture is all about reason and technology – and it would be a ‘contradiction’ in European logic to also develop the emotions and the imagination (it would be superstition).

    Jews don’t think this way. They use technology and reason but not exclusively.

    Not just Jews – all non Western people who are not possessed of Western dualistic logic have this advantage, and if Europeans cannot move past their dualistic logic they are doomed.

  39. Jesus was not a full blooded Jew. He could never have been married in a Jewish wedding ceremony during his time.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @Alden
    , @Anon
  40. @AaronB

    One of the greatest strength of Jews is that they unite opposites and don’t do extreme one sidedness – every aspect of life is considered legitimate and useful in some sphere and has its place and function. So they are both nationalists and universalists, and reap the benefits of both. This creates a robust many sided culture resistant to shocks – antifragile, in Talebs parlance.

    Ahistorical & wrong. On the contrary, Jews throw their full weight mostly on just one side (German assimilationism, Soviet Bolshevism) & suffer accordingly when the system or their role in it, collapses.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @ploni almoni
    , @Svigor
  41. Bibi says:

    Guyénot’s work is a heathen’s attempt to explain away the spiritual battle and the enemies of Christ. A reductionist attempting to reduce the supernatural to loosely connected socio-historical facts. Guyénot is an unwitting (ostensibly) servant of the Christ-haters who are very happy to promote naturalistic determinism and atheism as part of their scheme. They created the field of psychology to promote this lie and the psychometricians on this website also serve this Christ-hater scheme (see Sailer’s recent post about genetic determinism and success). Why do you think AEI’s Charles Murray and the late Richard Herrstein did so well promoting this stuff?? Because AEI seeks to promulgate truth no matter how unpopular because it values truth uber alles?? LMFAO.

    • Replies: @freedom-cat
  42. Harbinger says:

    Simply a wall of text. Too long and had no desire of even attempting to read.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @Druid
  43. Agent76 says:

    Matthew 7:13 But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. Luke 13:24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able.

    biblehub.com/matthew/7-13.htm

    Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus

    In the scriptures Jesus received the most opposition from the most religious people of his day. At it’s core Jesus’ gospel and the good news of the Cross is in pure opposition to self-righteousness/self-justification. Religion is man centered, Jesus is God-centered.

  44. Agent76 says:

    The New American Century Part 1/10

    This film goes in detail through the untold history of The Project for the New American Century with tons of archival footage and connects it right into the present.

    Jun 29, 2016 Neoconservatives Endorse Hillary Clinton for President Because They Know She’s One of Them

    Neoconservatives like Iraq warmonger Robert Kagan aren’t endorsing Hillary Clinton for president merely because they want rid of Donald Trump, but because she’s one of them, writes Trevor Timm at The Guardian.

    http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/neoconservatives_endorse_hillary_clinton_for_president_because_they_know_sh/

  45. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I am talking in a more cultural or metaphysical sense.

    There is no aspect of reality that Jews culturally or metapysically deny – God created both good and evil, and even revenge has its place.

    The Talmud utilizes logic heavily – but the kind of development that Europe has, where reason and technical mastery gradually came to dominate the culture exclusively, is not something Jewish culture would ever have encouraged.

    Politically, yes, Jews do of course sometimes back a movement that they think will help them – and they will back its opposite a few years later. This is flexible and adaptable, not adhering to one side metaphysically.

    The Japanese and oriental people’s are similar in this regard.

    Zionism was a corrective to the European Jewish disconnection from the body, from labor and physical strength, which some Jews had come to see as essential to Judaism – but it was clearly a one sided development.

    The modern weakness of Western European culture, in my view, is that it has become one-sided – heavily about abstract reason and technical mastery (and the human being is understood using analogies from the technological world, and seen essentially as a machine) – and thus both fragile and incapable of satisfying humanity’s emotional needs, leading to widespread disillusionment in its educated classes.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Anon
  46. Counter to the above, there is a school of scholarship alleging that the Jewish ‘biblical hoax’ is of a far different nature

    Key data here, is that there are no Jewish Hebrew (or Aramaic etc) texts, older than the Greek Septuagint of around the 3rd century BCE in Alexandria

    Tho allegedly the Greek was a ‘translation’ of ‘lost’ Hebrew etc texts … the more likely view, some say, is that the entire Hebrew bible is essentially a fraud, with later Hebrew in fact a translation of the Greek, which was a fraud created by Jews to increase their influence in the world

    The argument is that the Hebrew Bible, the first 5 books the Torah especially, are a large-scale ancient Jewish hoax, Jews glamourising themselves by the claims of having defeated great ancient Egypt, considered the greatest civilisation to date in the Mediterranean world of that time

    This bible scam idea is buttressed further by the fact that, from ancient Egypt which left huge voluminous records of just about everything … there are no records of Jewish slaves, the Exodus etc

    And that despite huge amounts of digging by Israeli archaeologists, there is little archeological evidence in Palestine of the great ancient Israel of the Bible

    There is further evidence that Jewish ‘history’, is a puffed-up glamourised version of tales by what were in origin a group of Arabian tribal bandits, centred in the region somewhat near Yemen

    In Renaissance times Jews sold the ‘ancient Hebrew texts’ story to both the Vatican and to young Christian thinkers such as Martin Luther, who began to re-judaise Christianity based on what they believed were ‘ancient texts of the word of God’

    More on the above ideas can be found in the work of Russell Gmirkin, and Alexandria’s Dr Ashraf Ezzat

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  47. @Matt07924

    It doesn’t matter. When a group of people can get together and find psychic connection to one another through some talisman, no matter how inconsequential, they form a group of self interested individuals who can and do control their own destiny.
    As we see in the west today, they can, by controlling the money, take over the leadership of the area where they live. Thereby dictating that which can be discussed in polite company. i.e. Political Correctness.
    There are other, less effective groups that have done the same thing. But not recently.

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  48. Be careful Jew. The Goyim Janissaries may wake up and realize they are the Masters. You may have some splainin to do.

  49. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting book . Bon travail .

    Marranos in spanish means pigs

  50. Jake says:
    @Curiouser

    This article misses the point entirely.

    In short, the religion that had been institutionalized under Moses and his brother Aaron, and which was to make manifest the ‘calling out of Abraham’ (meaning, he was called out of being a passive acceptor of the over-arching Semitic Fertility Cult of human sacrifice and sex rituals), became perverted into a faith in the salvation that came from being a descendant of Abraham, which became a faith in being a Chosen Race, a Race beyond Good and Evil.

    It was that perversion of the religion institutionalized by Moses that Jesus condemned as being of the Devil. The reason the Jews failed to discern that Jesus was the Messias and that the Messias was God Incarnate (or else did realize that Jesus was the Messias and still wanted to murder him) was that they had become the evil of Semitic religion that Abraham has been called out of. They had turned the proper worship of Yahweh, and the morality that necessarily goes with it, upside down in some ways and inside out in others, creating a perverted mess that could not be reformed because it had come to promote great evil – not human sacrifice evil, but the evil of believing that the tribe of Jews was, in effect, God and, as befits Semitic culture, that being God meant you were not bound by morals that applied to mere human beings.

    There is only way to combat the terrors that spring from Jews having perverted the religion that was meant to prepare them for the ‘fulness of time’ when Christ would come into a cult of self-worship in which they as the Chosen Race were deemed above and beyond morals. That one way is historic Christianity leading to Christendom. All deviations from that open doors to the anti-Christ Jews that Jesus said have Satan as their spiritual father.

    Atheists, agnostics, Deists, Mohammedans, Wiccans, Cathars, Anglo-Saxon Puritans, Francophone Calvinists, etc. – all are revealed ultimately to be either fully impotent before the fury of anti-Christ Jews or else allied with anti-Christ Jews against Christendom.

    That includes the author of this article.

  51. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    ” The great weakness of Europeans is that they are dualists – you must choose between rigid opposites and develop one side to an extreme ”

    Agree , it is the heritage of Descartes ” I think ,therefore I am ” , he separated the brains from the guts and sex , producing intelectualoid masturbators politically correct . devoid of common sense , maybe we are doomed .

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Anon
  52. Anne Lid says:
    @Anon

    There is nothing to dodge. Israel knew the prophecies and laws, naturally he preached to them. He did help that woman after. He also said that ” the kingdom will be taken from you, and given to another”.

  53. Excellent article. Brilliant! This is why Unz.com is now my favorite website. Guyénot has already written several fine articles for Unz, but this is probably his best yet. Keep ’em coming!

    I have been exposed to elements of Guyénot’s thesis before in various different contexts. For example, I understand that many of the original Gnostic sects of Christianity also rejected the idea that Yahweh and the Creator God were one and the same being. Many Gnostics seemed to have regarded the former as a ‘lesser god’, or as a Platonic demiurge, or even as a completely diabolical entity. In their view, Jesus had come to rebuke the Israelites–the Pharisees especially–for worshipping a false god, and for putting themselves on a pedestal relative to the goyim. (He often spoke sympathetically of the Samaritans, for example, who were a race of lowly converts.)

    All of which makes me wonder about Christianity and the Abrahamic religions generally. I, personally, am sure that there is a God or a supreme spirit of some sort; but I really just don’t buy the catechism I was raised with at all. And if, once upon a time, I might have gone along with it in public anyway, accepting its theological anomalies as the price that had to be paid for preserving the moral foundations of civilization, now that I no longer believe it does our civilization any good, I have lost all interest in it whatsoever.

    But what shall replace Christianity now that it is dead? Nihilism is an inherently unstable state; nature–including human nature–abhors a vacuum. We need some kind of civic religion to provide moral order. At the moment, ‘Holocaustianity’ serves as our overarching civic religion, and so we get a modern version of the old faith vs. good-works dichotomy (i.e., Zionism vs. SJWism). Generally speaking, the hardline Protestants prefer the former, while the remaining denominations prefer the latter. Virtually all of our remaining ‘Christian’ churches, it seems, have lined up behind one or the other; but either way you go, it’s all for the benefit of another people–not our own.

    Depressing …

  54. Very interesting article. Informative throughout. Purely on a political level, this piece has given me a much greater understanding of the psychic sources of historical abuses by those who call themselves Jews.

    On a theological level, I appreciate the light you throw on the paradox between Yahweh as the deity of the messianic Hebrews and somehow also as the Supreme Divine. If in fact Yahweh is jealously standing in front of the Supreme Divine, it explains a great deal. For one it would show the Gnostics were right. Yahweh could be the Demiurge they spoke of.

    Allah, who also has the problem of being the “only god” among many gods, shows the same jealousy. Does that make Allah Yahweh?

    I for one would like to direct my worship to the Almighty, not to some jealous tribal nitwit. And if there is no Almighty, just a pantheon, then I can address various divinities, and feel comfortable disregarding Moses’ first law, because it was all a bluff.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  55. AaronB says:
    @Jake

    a Race beyond Good and Evil.

    I think this is another very important concept. Its not that Jews don’t hold themselves to moral standards, but it’s that sin cannot alter their fundamental ‘rightnes’. They are Chosen – if they sin they will be punished mercilessly, but they are fundamentally and basically ‘justified’ unto eternity.

    Catholics used to have this concept as well, and it was also a source of immense strength for them – first, you are saved through Jesus. Jesus took on the sins of humanity. Nothing you can do will make you any less saved, provided you accept Jesus’s gift.

    Second, by confessing your sins you are absolved.

    So the old Christian is eternally justified and his sins cannot fundamentally put him on the ‘wrong’ side of life.

    This also led to that absolutely crucial thing – in Jungian terms, acceptance of the Shadow, the bad and weak side of man. People were not afraid to accept the dirty and bad and weak about themselves without collapsing into self hatred, because they knew they were fundamentally right anyways. This is an immense source of strength and integrity.

    When the modern Western world lost this ability to accept the Shadow, and strove to become God itself, it very easily fell into a crushing sense of guilt and self hatred at its ‘sins’, as it no longer has a theology that allowed to accept its common human frailty without collapsing into self hatred.

    The Jews never abandoned their theory of being ‘saved’ – and so their evil and weakness does not result in self hatred, but is more accepted.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  56. AaronB says:
    @Anon

    Agree, except I don’t think you are doomed.

    Europeans went on a grand adventure – let’s see how far an exclusive devotion to abstract reason at the expense of all else can take us. Let us set sail to the West and just keep going, to the edge of the world, until our ships fall over the edge or break apart.

    Its that old Viking seafaring, roving, exploring, adventuring bug that seems most developed in the young Northern European barbarian people’s, translated into the intellectual realm.

    But the ships have reached the edge of the world and will either fall over or break apart. So that particular adventure has reached its end, that frontier has been settled, and new adventures will begin.

  57. @AaronB

    This is too divorced from reality & is basically some kind of dubious philosophy of history.

    Simply, traditional Jewish culture is not that different from other traditional cultures. Jews’ behavior & position in pre-modern Europe was not determined by some metaphysical ingredient in their belief, or their ethnic-religious peculiarity. They were middle-eastern tolerated aliens in Christian Europe, and they survived because medieval Christian order had found a place for them (unlike Muslims, who were not tolerated).

    After assimilation in 19th C, we can’t speak of a unified (more or less) “Jewish culture”. True, some branches like ethno-psychology could find common traits among them (professions oriented, eager to get educated, politicized, showbiz & entertainment,..), but they are not too adaptable- persons of Jewish ancestry are, perhaps, but many/most of them are not Jews anymore. Assimilated individuals of Jewish ancestry do not show any more flexibility than their co-nationals of other faiths.

    As for Zionism, this is a typical late 19th C national ideology from central- & eastern Europe. It differs from pre-modern Jewish historical mass movements.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Seraphim
  58. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Theologically Jesus came to offer a new message of universal brotherhood to replace the tribalism and overly legalistic Law of Moses.

    The reason the New Testament quotes so heavily from the Old Testament is that the early church sought to cement it’s legitimacy by establishing that Jesus was the one prophesied about.

    • Replies: @Anon
  59. @Anon

    This may come as a shock to you, but the First Amendment only limits the Federal Government, not the states. There is/was no constitutional warrant for, example, banning prayer or bible reading in your local school district. As a matter of fact, historically, there were even a few US states that had full-blown established churches! The last of these, Connecticut, did not disestablish its church until 1818–many years after the Bill of Rights had already been ratified, so there’s nothing unconstitutional about states having established churches … until the Warren Court came along anyway.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  60. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Simply, traditional Jewish culture is not that different from other traditional cultures

    Agreed. What was distinctively ‘modern’ in European culture was the one-sided development of abstract reason and the increasing neglect of the emotional, aesthetic, and spiritual side of man. At first the imaginative arts responded to this challenge – producing masterpieces – and attempted to incorporate or ameliorate this development. Eventually, in our day, the ‘managerial’ movement became exclusively dominant, as was bound to happen.

    So we can turn to any traditional culture, not just Jewish. What is unusual about Jews perhaps is that they went further than other traditional cultures in adopting European abstract reason and participating in European culture.

    But I would submit that many or most Jews who identify as Jews, retain elements of this traditional way of thinking. The proof of this is the very fact that they are proud Jews – this is anti-Enlightenment thinking. A “good European” is not proud to belong to any race or nations. He is wholly a creature of abstract reason.

    Of course, many Jews have completely assimilated into European civilization. But we are not talking about them.

    As for Zionissm, it is obviously related to ancient Jewish nationalism – ‘next year in Jerusalem’. But it also could only have occurred on the 19th century, when the acid of reason was dissolving larhe4 civilizations units into smaller units – this kind of ‘analytic’ movement rather than ‘synthetic’ is the logic of our times.

  61. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    To those Christians (and jews) who believe that how one lives one’s life is not important, here is a possible scenario…a criminal has hurt thousands (or even millions) of people throughout his lifetime, gotten rich and benefited from his criminal activity (could be white collar) and on his deathbed proclaims his guilt, professes a belief in Jesus Christ and his sins are automatically “forgiven”. He now has a straight ticket to “heaven”…that is what Protestants believe…”good works” are of no use…
    Another scenario…a person (Catholic) has lived a decent life, always treating his fellow man with respect, has done “good works” without expecting recognition or “payback”, doing them because “it’s the right thing to do”…believes in Jesus Christ but does not profess his sins on his deathbed, figuring that he has striven to live a decent life. Is he any less worthy of the Creator’s mercy?
    How many “deathbed conversions” are valid?? We will never know…
    I don’t “buy” the notion that good works will not help in a person’s “salvation”. If anything, it can’t hurt…
    Yes, there have been many abuses in the Catholic Church, “indulgences” for one, that supposedly offered a “fast track” to heaven “for a price”…that, in itself was an abuse of Catholic doctrine…
    It is my belief that how a person lives his life is of great importance…living a life in which a person’s injustice to others WILL affect a person’s status in the next life…
    Of course, there are those who “wear their religion on their sleeves” who will not accept the fact that religions are merely a “conduit” in which to help understand spiritual concepts that cannot be proven or disproven by scientific means..
    I also refuse to believe that those of non-Christian religions are destined to “hell” or some other place for “unbelievers” in the Christian faiths.
    Let’s not forget that it is the Catholic Church that established the first charitable hospitals, orphanages and university education systems in the middle ages.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Svigor
    , @Anonymous
    , @Dule
  62. Svigor says:
    @Colin Wright

    On a less exalted note, I’ve long found it a convincing theory that as Jews have ceased to take Judaism seriously and have become culturally almost indistinguishable from gentile whites

    As in, if you distinguish Jews from Whites out loud, Jews will crush you.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  63. I am unclear yet what the author’s point besides making a claim that Israel has no right to be a state based on false notions of scripture. But that has very little to do with why Israel is a state in the secular understanding.

    One can complain about Israel from now till doomsday, but until you make a case to Israel’s supporting states that Israel is out of line — the complaint doesn’t have much weight. They exist by international law. And they engage in tactics to their own interests – no kidding.

    Israel is not going to change course if what she is doing yields her results. The attempt to decouple support for Israel by engaging in arguments about how “rotten” she is only fuels the complaint that Israel is surrounded by enemies that seek her destruction. Which is fed into the “holocaust” pipeline, which in the secular is why Israel was afforded the statehood she now has.

    Merely attacking her character as is done routinely through scriptural history is largely unhelpful. It is unhelpful for a myriad of reasons. Here’s one.

    Suppose the author is correct scriptural history of Israel is false. It’s really a so what because most nations engage in narratives that are design to highlight their glories and benefits. Read a standard US history textbook. Even by the woke crowd — gunslinger’s bandits, thieves, broken contracts, treachery are still honored in any number of ways. Israel engaged in nasty tactics during her founding — that’s only unique if you ignore the tactics of everyone in here sphere and beyond. Broken agreements, spies, lies, “sleeping with the enemy”, pretending friendship all the while biding time. Apparently the author thinks this is unique. It’s only unique if you ignore Greece, Rome, the Visigoths, the Vikings, the Francs, the Saxons and a host of other states, good grief, the colonists, Serbia and the smaller the state the more inclined to use subtrafuge in order to survive.

    No the answer to bringing sanity to US foreign policy is to focus attention on the US policy makes and influencers . Israel’s rights are as other states as are her responsibilities. Land confiscation is not permissible, save the processes accorded to states through law. It’s fine that Israel thinks she is special. But specialness in the political arena (also established by God) requires that even the special among us play by the rules.

  64. @anon

    … good white leftism seeks to improve things usually naively, jew leftism is wrecker leftism …

    This. Jewish ‘leftism’ historically is mostly about destroying the church, the (goy) family and the (goy) nations. It is almost never about helping the working class or making life better for the goyim generally.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  65. AaronB says:
    @anarchyst

    To those Christians (and jews) who believe that how one lives one’s life is not important

    You misunderstood. No one believes that. Both believe it’s important to be moral.

    But both believe they are basically good even if they sin. This allows them to not deny or repress the bad side of their character – sparing them all sorts of neuroses and complexes.

    The fact is that we humans do have negative, evil, and weak impulses. And sometimes we give in to them.

    It is psychologically important to face this and accept this without collapsing into self-hatred, and cultures and religions have devised methods to do so, leading to integrated, healthy personalities.

    Modern Western culture is Promethean – we seek to become Gods, which leads to us to repressing and denying the evil and frail side of our humanity. This leads us to be at war with ourselves, to exist in a state of conflict, and thus to be stymied and obstructed in the sources of our vitality. We also cannot forgive ourselves out transgressions, and have a crushing sense of guilt.

    • Agree: atlantis_dweller
  66. @AaronB

    Very perceptive comment, AaronB. Thank you.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  67. @joeshittheragman

    Jesus was not a full blooded Jew. He could never have been married in a Jewish wedding ceremony during his time.

    Correct. His mother was not Jewish–she was the product of immaculate conception!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Hibernian
  68. Faraway says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    In the old testament there are over 300 prophecies about Jesus Christ.

    Really? Can I see the list? I bet that, with your criteria, I can find about one hundred prophecies of Jesus Christ in my cooking book.

  69. Anon[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Agreed. Christianity was written by Jews and is strictly based off of both Semitic Paganism (Dumuzid) and Jewish theology (Adonai-Adonis) that was an anathema to Europeans of the time. Its earliest proto-cult forms, in the Sabazios / Dionysus / Bacchus cults promoted immoral orgies and substance abuse. Another mythological root figure to Christ is the Semitic-greek god Pan who is commonly shown with a massive erection and having sex. The mythological connections between them are out of the scope of this post, but I can easily get into it upon request.

    The European pagans fought tooth and nail to suppress Christianity because they were vastly more learned on the JQ, its theology and aims, and generally more intelligent than modern Christians who are no more than blind followers of a Jewish cult meant to serve the Jewish purpose of world conquest.

    Christianity came up in the same manner as communism (starting in the lowest, socially rejected classes and finding its way up the hierarchy). Christianity has the equivalent foundational moral and ethnic message as communism. Both were penned by Jews. Both have the primary purpose of bringing Jewish prophecy of Jewish world domination into being.

  70. Matt07924 says:
    @HallParvey

    @ HallParvey

    Your point is noted. However, I think it matters in that many people do not know this historical fact. Many Christians mistakenly believe the Zionist cause thinking the land claim is valid and/or the Jewish religion of today (Talmud) is the same as the OT Jewish religion. So, call me anti-PC, but education is a great way to push back on false narratives. On a side note, I was kicked off a blog for stating this historical fact…and called a racist something or another. This is a PC control tactic….of which all social media sites seem to be doing these days….

    • Replies: @Anon
  71. Svigor says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Yeah, it took some judicial chicanery to make that happen. They call it “Incorporation,” IIRC. Regardless, the idea is that eventually the Constitution has come to be enforced on the States, too. Probably via the Supremacy Clause, if I had to guess (I haven’t read up on Incorporation).

  72. Anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    His mother was not Jewish–she was the product of immaculate conception!

    But — “immaculate conception” is a characteristic of High IQ, and as we all know, Jews are high IQ.

    we do all know that, don’t we, that Jews are high IQ?
    that’s a law of nature, immutable, like gravity, right?

  73. Anon[819] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Anon, does it weigh on your mind heavily that someday you will bow and confess that Jesus, a Jew, is Lord?

    If you knew anything about real religion, as can be discerned through the religion that the Rabbis practice (for one), it is impossible for an individual or “god” manifestation of a foreign tribe to be the “god” of another tribe (or “guardian angel” as the monotheist supremacist Rabbis would put it).

    Your JesustheJew.exe is an invention of Jews designed to eradicate the European religions (as commanded in the Torah), destroy their real national gods (as commanded in the Torah, which in Jewspeak is tantamount to destruction of European peoples) in favor of the god of “tolerance” (who is actually the devil or agent of destruction): the god of low morality, acceptance of and sex with foreigners, no borders, and internationalism (Christ, Dionysus, Bacchus, Pan, Adonis, Dumuzid, etc). Everything that the Jews require to bring their prophecies of dispossession and destruction of the rest of nations of the world into being.

    We have “bowed and confessed” that Jesus, the Jew, is Lord and it has led to our ever quickening destruction. As it was always meant to. This result of Christianity is the primary fruit of “Satan” or the “adversary” and accuser. This is by design.

    The bowing and confessing was passed accomplished, is waning, and the old gods are again symbolically arising (as the Rabbis well know, if the Europeans broadly do not). If, in the future, there is renewed bowing to JesustheJew, it will be at a time when we are completely destroyed and those taking the knee will be the only subjects that the Jews are capable of truly ruling: the racial mongrels.

    Your “hatred” label is more Jewspeak for “why don’t you give us our way and allow us to destroy you”.

    Ironic to your claim, the Jew’s primary goal, through Christianity and every other means, is to destroy Europeans as ethnic and racial peoples. Which they make abundantly clear in their texts. Which is exactly what Christianity has accomplished. The only way back to personhood is to embrace the so called hate that is actually rational self defense.

  74. Anon[819] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Theologically Communism came to offer a new message of universal brotherhood to replace the tribalism and overly legalistic Law of nationalism.

    Fixed it for you.

    As with communism, Christianity was written by the very same nationalists (Jews) who wrote it to use as a cultural and political weapon against their enemies and peoples they wished to eventually rule. Such international domination being the expressed primary goal of the Jewish god as described in the Jewish Torah.

  75. Brilliant work. Kudos.

  76. @Svigor

    ‘As in, if you distinguish Jews from Whites out loud, Jews will crush you.’

    At the same time, many Jews make a point of declaring that they don’t regard themselves as white.

    Go figure.

    It’s tedious. At the point of debarkation on Ellis Island, I’d say Jews differed from ‘Americans’ neither more nor less than arriving Irishmen, Italians, Poles, or Chinamen did.

    Moreover, at least initially, they assimilated just about as eagerly. The Italians had Joe Dimaggio; the Jews had Hank Greenberg, ‘the Hebrew Hammer.’ There were Jewish gangsters, Barbara Streisand — the whole immigrant schtick, culminating in becoming more or less indistinguishable from everyone else.

    Well, that went off the rails. Personally, I think it’s all to do with Israel. That was a most unfortunate innovation.

  77. @EliteCommInc.

    And you will never, never know.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  78. @Digital Samizdat

    ‘This. Jewish ‘leftism’ historically is mostly about destroying the church, the (goy) family and the (goy) nations. It is almost never about helping the working class or making life better for the goyim generally.’

    I don’t think that’s fair — but at the same time, there is something mindlessly destructive about Jewish radicalism.

    I’m reminded of More Powerful than Dynamite — a fairly good book about the radical upheavals that beset New York City around 1915.

    The author doesn’t seem to notice, but a disproportionate number of his protagonists are young Jewish immigrants, fresh out of the shetl. The young Jewesses seem to have been the worst; those girls had the devil in them somehow.

    I think it probably all had more to do with a rebellion against the traditional authorities of Judaism more than anything; the rabbis et al who had held Eastern Jewry in thrall for so long. I’m not saying they actually wished gentiles well — but I don’t think destroying gentile society was really the motive.

    Just the effect.

    • Replies: @Anon
  79. @Anon

    Jesus did that when he cursed the fig tree that had no fruit for him.

  80. @Bardon Kaldian

    How heartbreaking. Is there no way out for you?

  81. @DESERT FOX

    Money has always come from “thin air.” Money doesn’t exist metaphysically or as a fact of nature; it requires political construction. It even worked that way in the New World before Columbus, so you can’t blame the phenomenon on Jews:

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/money-ancient-origins-debate-mystery

    BTW, I just get a hoot when libertarians complain about money coming from “thin air,” when they don’t make the same complaint about the other documents issued by the government that they use and depend on, like titles to property, patents, copyrights, passports and so forth. When the Department of Motor Vehicles in your state gives you the title to your car conjured out of “thin air,” that piece of paper clearly has value to you, and no one claims that the DMV has committed some kind of fraudulent act.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  82. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    Judaism has survived in all its different forms for one reason only and that reason is simply that it elevates a human being to a higher plane.

    Please. Judaism survived because it spreads Jews internationally, which creates a unique economic network for any nation that will have them, while prescribing a genocidally vicious nationalism that slowly destroys the natoions that they inhabit. Full stop.

    Your lofty sounding propaganda only works on those who have not actually read or understood your books. Enough with the lies. Gentile ears are long corroded with them and filled with their putrid detritus.

    I know for a fact that we are now in the end times and the prophecies have come true as stated a long time ago.

    Other than reading your books, how do you know this for a fact? When police investigate crimes, foreknowledge implies a level of (if not total) guilt.

    I know for a fact that Jews intentionally work to make their so called “prophecies” (myths invented and written by Jewish men) come true so that you will justify your group delusion that you are entitled to the entire world and the genocide of all non-Jews.

    See the fact that you ridiculously keep the Palestinians in an open air prison for decades as group punishment because, in fact, your wholly psychopathic group has labeled them to be the biblical Philistines that your books demand that you punish and destroy.

    Outrageous, inhuman psychos from antiquity is the sum total of your collective identity.

    When scientists talk about the coming extinctions i suggest you take note.

    Why would I need to take note from scientists, when I only need to go to the Zohar to discover that you people are intending to engineer the genocide of all non-Jews?

    Thanks for the additional genocide threat here. It makes the day of all non-Jews under constant worldwide threat from Jewish psychopathy.

    What to do?

    The other night my wife and i went out to dinner.A trendy restaurant,mostly for 30 somethings.As i sat there looking around at all of them enjoying themselves i felt an incredible sadness that there future was gone. My generation,i am 61, had the best life on earth had to offer and we have destroyed the future.

    Again, Jewish foreknowledge of coming Jewish-engineered worldwide massacre.

    I suggest to you,laurent,if you are not jewish,then convert to Judaism and pray that Lord saves you from the coming apocalypse.

    Again.

    Here’s a better idea:

    How about all Jews abandon their psychopathic belief system in an apocalypse that they feel entitled to and we proceed in this world along a more rational, less mass murderous course?

    Just kidding. I know that Jews would never give up a chance at mass murder for material gain.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  83. Svigor says:
    @anarchyst

    I also refuse to believe that those of non-Christian religions are destined to “hell” or some other place for “unbelievers” in the Christian faiths.

    There isn’t any real theological basis for Hell in Christian Scripture. At least I’ve never seen it. It’s a doctrinal thing that grew out of a need for a stick (as in carrot and stick) and some very threadbare Scriptural bases, that doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. A lot of denominations basically don’t believe in it. It’s kind of a Baptist/etc. thing at this point, AFAICT.

    Interestingly, it seems to be more supported in the extant sources of ancient Norse and Greek mythologies.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Hibernian
    , @Seraphim
  84. What’s also immutable is the Jews never no when to back off with their BS. They always go that one step too far.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  85. I bought the book electronically but I’m going to get the hard copy as well, on pay day.

    It’s super interesting book; I’m a about a 3rd of the way in. It has really good references too, which has opened up some more books I’d like to get.

    I’m also reading ‘200 Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn (glad his name is in spell check). It really gives another clear example how these people live “apart”.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  86. nsa says:

    Censorship and brain washing in the USA, Canada, and Europe is beyond extreme. Try fingering the jew termites in public. You’ll only get to try it once…..ask Chuck Hagel. Whites now display a rare combination of stupidity, gullibility, and cowardice. Whitey is toast…..and richly deserves his fate. The blacks and browns and yellows will eventually take over in a cake walk.

  87. @ploni almoni

    Laughing. Ohh it’s secret. I see.

    Maybe it’s one of those secrets like, deligitimizing Israel’s right to exist. That if one dismantles the Zionist pose, then the UN will simply reneg the 1948 resolution and Israel will be no more. I think I can keep that secret.

    I have news for you. It’s not going to happen. Not even the Russians or the Chinese are on that band wagon and short of wholesale death camps, it simply will not occur.

    Or maybe the secret is that the world upon fin ally grasping the argument that there is no God, and scripture is all bunk, will rise up and destroy Israel. I think I can keep that secret. But I have news for you, it’s highly unlikely that will occur. Neither Europe, the US, most of Asia not even African states are on that bandwagon.

    And what seems to be the real secret is that for all of the chatter about the OT, few advocates attacking Israel, ever deal with the real heady force of scripture, the prophecies about what would occur after Cjrist’s death and before his return. The real force of Israel is not in their past but what they and christians tend think is the future and the present. Now I like to be careful treading here because scripture and it’s spiritual meaning can be a might tricky.

    ________________________________________________-

    Some issues are readily addressed and made right. Such nonsense that christians are jew worshipers or must become jews or worshipers of Israel. All a bunch of complete and utter unsupportable notions when examining scripture in full as oppose to the line by line — scavenging that many engage. Sometimes it can work, but usually one has to take scripture not as legal text for argument but rather text in context, especially for argument.

    The intensity surrounding Israel is rooted in 1948. That resolution which even many jews would love to dismiss, which would be a mistake for Israel to formally so engage. But that moment is when the western world took some notice about Israel on the world stage. That’s all related to Israel’s spiritual meaning – so i tread lightly.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Anon
  88. @Anon

    Dodge that.

    Christian Identity. Checkmate.

    • Agree: Svigor
    • Replies: @Anon
  89. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Matt07924

    You are assuming that the Jewish religion conveys some form of valid land entitlement whatsoever, no matter who is following it.

    You are miscalculating and not coming to grips with the fact that Judaism is political instruction written by Jews for Jews, which serves to provide and justification and method to award them anything that they can take.

    The core thesis of Judaism is that it gives Jews permission to genocide all other peoples so that the Jews can claim their lands.

    There are levels to breaking through the long, multi-level trance imposed on us.

    One of the final and most difficult is to stop ascribing any of it to a god and instead coming to grips with the fact that its all invention and imperialist-genocidal political instruction that is designed to bypass normal human filters of morality (which may warn them that killing someone for what they have is wrong, but are bypassed because “god” told them to do it).

    Its a neat trick that worked fantastically on peoples with magical, superstitious thinking from antiquity and beyond. But its long passed the time to snap out of its spell and call it what it is so that it can no longer impose real suffering on its real victims.

    That goes for you as well, Jews.

  90. Key data here, is that there are no Jewish Hebrew (or Aramaic etc) texts, older than the Greek Septuagint of around the 3rd century BCE in Alexandria

    The hypothesis that the Hebrew Tanakh was translated from the Greek Septuagint Bible is plausible, but I have never found a scholarly argument in its favor, and so, being not a philologist, I have not mentioned it. But dating the Hebrew Bible from the Hellenistic period rather than the Persian period doesn’t change the argument of this article.

  91. Vojkan says:

    Thank you Mr Guyenot for proving me that in spite of all the efforts of the “soixante-huitards”, French intelligence has not yet become extinct. Unfortunately, an article like this is impossible in France, or anywhere in Europe as a matter of fact.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  92. @Seraphim

    The passage “the Law will issue from Zion and the Word of Yahweh from Jerusalem,” is referring to Jesus who is the ‘Word of God’.

    You are reading the Hebrew Tanakh with Christian glasses. Fine. Now you go and convince the Israelis to wear your glasses and perhaps they will leave us in peace.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  93. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Descartes? No.

    Dualism and monotheism are the defining features of the The Aryan Zoroastrianism from which original Judaism is derived.

  94. @advancedatheist

    The FED is a debt creation machine that creates debt by issuing currency and that debt is owed to the zionist privately owned FED and with this debt creation has made we Americans slaves of the zionist banking kabal, which was not the case with US created currency prior to December 23, 1913.

    The zionist created FED is the greatest theft created scheme in the history of America and has created unpayable debt with the wars that have been financed under these satanic bastards and will eventually lead to the destruction of America.

    The FED is Unconstitutional as is the zionist privately owned IRS and both are listed as 2 of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  95. The central piece of that narrative is the glorious kingdom of Solomon, reaching from the Euphrates to the Nile … with its magnificent temple and its lavish royal palace … and received gifts from all the kings in the world

    There is however a Suleiman the Magnificent of the Ottoman Empire with his Hagia Sophia who would fit that description. Could that be who Solomon was based upon?

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
    , @Alden
  96. Alden says:

    Not really Off Topic.

    A new Anne Frank book just came out. It’s actually about the Frank family’s non existent cat. It’s a book for the 3 to 10 year old children. Right now its being thrust on Jewish kids in nursery schools and other Jewish kids programs. The cat’s name is Mouschi. When it’s not observing the Frank family’s saintly life, it roams around town observing Germans and Dutch being mean to Jews.

    The authors, Miller and Rubin are very concerned that holofraud survivors are dying out and soon the holofraud and its 6 trillion jillion victims will be forgotten. So to reach the little ones, they wrote this book about a cat that observes human life.

    There’s a woman mystery writer who has written a series of mysteries seen through the eyes of a cat. Miller and Rubin probably got the idea from her series. I assume they chose a cat instead of a dog because cats can get into places dogs can’t and stay quiet instead of barking and growling.

    Authors hope the book will soon be forced into the reading lists of every K-8 public and “Christian” bible thumper school in the country. School text and library books are a very very lucrative business. And a new generation of brainwashed zombies will learn about Anne Frank.

    Title; The Cat Who Lived With Anne Frank.

    • Replies: @ANON
    , @Digital Samizdat
  97. Agent76 says:

    Evolution Vs. God Movie

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    • Peter Nonacs, Professor, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, UCLA
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    • PZ Myers, Associate Professor, Biology, University of Minnesota Morris
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    A study of the evidence of vestigial organs, natural selection, the fifth digit, the relevance of the stickleback, Darwin’s finches and Lenski’s bacteria—all under the microscope of the Scientific Method—observable evidence from the minds of experts. Prepare to have your faith shaken.

    The Resurrection Painting

    Artist Ron DiCianni who is known for his murals of Christianity discusses The Resurrection Painting which he was recently commissioned to paint.

  98. @Anon

    How about all Jews abandon their psychopathic belief system in an apocalypse that they feel entitled to and we proceed in this world along a more rational, less mass murderous course?

    In other words, the living fossils called Jews need to show some badly overdue emotional maturity and follow their own psychotherapists’ advice to get over themselves.

  99. @Digital Samizdat

    Thanks for your comment.
    I suggest you read Rousseau, or about his religious views. I feel very confortable with his “religion naturelle”. Proofs of God are everywhere. Who needs a book to know God? Natural religion is generally understood as based on two “dogmas”: the existence of God and the immortality of the soul. Robespierre, who was a disciple of Rousseau and abhorred atheism (like Rousseau), added : “le culte du bien public”. What else do people need? Within that framework, everyone can think for themselves. And, personnally, I think that whoever wants to know God should start by admitting that God is unknowable. God certainly doesn’t speak, whether in Hebrew or in Arabic. That’s utterly ridiculous.
    I have written on these topics in French, perhaps I’ll put it into English some day.
    Cheers

    • Agree: Iris
  100. @DESERT FOX

    And yet our elites don’t give a crap if you complain about the Federal Reserve, unless you draw attention to the JQ aspect of it – which you would have trouble making stick when non-Jews like Herman Cain serve as Fed bankers. They don’t try to dox you, get you fired from your job, deplatform you from the internet, deprive you of financial services, block you from entering certain countries as an undesirable alien and so forth.

    No, this doesn’t happen to Fed critics like, say, Ron Paul. Instead it happens to white nationalists, because the latter have identified and attacked where our elites feel the most vulnerable: Not through the Fed, but through their childish and damaging utopianism about race mixing, equality, diversity, uncontrolled immigration, feminism, degeneracy and the normalization of broken sexuality.

    If anything, condemning the Fed might sound edgy and radical, but in a safe way because you won’t face consequences for doing that. Sounds like a pretty gutless way to spend your time on the internet.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  101. @Job’s brother

    For one it would show the Gnostics were right. Yahweh could be the Demiurge they spoke of.

    In some way, yes. From the point of view of the Gospel, it is even arguable that Yahweh is Satan (I’m not saying I believe in Satan). Compare the terms of the covenant Yahweh offered to his people, “If you faithfully obey the voice of Yahweh your God […], Yahweh your God will raise you higher than every other nation in the world” (Deuteronomy 28:1), with the terms of the deal offered to Jesus, when “the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. And he said to him, ‘I will give you all these, if you fall at my feet and do me homage’” (Matthew 4:8-10).

    • Replies: @Mr. FoSquare
    , @j2
  102. Svigor says:
    @Anon

    Nietzsche went mad from syphilis, or whatever it was. Quoting him on Christianity is like quoting the Jews.

    As for you, your Scriptural arguments are always shitty. Every time I run them down and find the context, they fall apart. You’re like a garden variety Jew – indefatigable, but otherwise bereft. Hell, you probably are a Jew (you never talk about anything else). They hate and fear Christianity, and love crypsis. I got tired of destroying you over and over and blocked you. Only saw your shitty comment by accident.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jacques sheete
  103. @Anon

    Food for thought.

    • Replies: @Anon
  104. The fact that a nontrivial number of evangelical simpletons in the U.S. have latched onto this foolishness about Israel as a sign of the end times shows the truth about the Bible: Most of the Bible, if not all of it, just doesn’t matter in the real world. You have to wish for the fantasies in its apocalyptic passages to become real to show that you haven’t wasted a good percentage of the only life you’ll ever have by reading the Bible and listening to sermons about it.

    Again, if you want to get to the truth about a weird Christian claim, just ask yourself what an atheist would say about it. The answer will point you in the right direction.

  105. @Vojkan

    Thanks

    Unfortunately, an article like this is impossible in France, or anywhere in Europe as a matter of fact.

    I have written such articles in French. Anti-yahwism is not yet banned by law. Besides, I am a philo-Semite: my deepest wish is to free the Jews from their Mad God Yahweh and his curse.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Svigor
    , @renfro
  106. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    There is no aspect of reality that Jews culturally or metapysically deny – God created both good and evil, and even revenge has its place.

    A perspective that is better for physical survival and political craft, but corrosive to the soul that requires a connection to the dualistic notion of good if the soul’s integrity is to be maintained.

    Hence why you commonly see White Nationalists make rhetorical appeals to inherently good (dualistic) qualities of the Aryan soul (which are born out in the relatively high quality of their unmolested communities). Its a view that seeks to specifically identify the unique positive characteristics that imply a unique and invaluable worth across the group.

    These qualities often include martial bravery-fearlessness even in the face of death, generosity and selflessness, general kindness toward individuals who seem to deserve it, emotional control, a penchant for justice in the defense of good and its bearers, and a truly cooperative instinct that makes for great communities.

    It is these qualities that Jews used to form the word “Japheth” to describe Aryans. A word in Hebrew that generally means the sentiment conveyed by the words: gullible, fool, unsophisticated, open-minded (to a fault), persuaded, etc.

    In contrast, Jewish lip service to the Jewish soul is commonly couched in comparative language that simply asserts that the Jewish soul is better or more valid in some way, but these arguments commonly lack descriptions of the Jewish soul’s specific noble characteristics beyond “sensitive” and “loving” (a reference to Kabbalah) (which it is not to out groups). The common justification for these assertions is that the Jewish god (who is not the Aryan god, as any honest Rabbi would admit) determined the Jewish soul to have this supreme status in comparison to other tribes. Its a tactic that seeks myth-based persuasion over evidence.

    Politically, yes, Jews do of course sometimes back a movement that they think will help them – and they will back its opposite a few years later. This is flexible and adaptable, not adhering to one side metaphysically.

    A few years later? No. they back opposite groups at the same time (ie: liberals and conservatives), but generally in an extremely lopsided manner that tends to be reversed in Israel. The less backed group seems (conservatism) to serve the purpose of plausible deniability when it isn’t gatekeeping (Neoconservatism) so that gentiles will not, for instance, mover further to the Right and instead adopt Jewish nationalism as a political surrogate for the nationalism that they are not permitted (even by the Neocons).

    If it were not the case that Jewish support for two sides was group strategy meant to deceive, then conservative and liberal Jews would find stronger effective (demonstrated) political bonds and common interest with gentile members of either group than they do fellow Jews on the other side of the isle. This is not the case. When it comes down to the wire, Jews on either side of the isle are Jewish first. This is not the case with gentile White people.

    The modern weakness of Western European culture, in my view, is that it has become one-sided – heavily about abstract reason and technical mastery (and the human being is understood using analogies from the technological world, and seen essentially as a machine) – and thus both fragile and incapable of satisfying humanity’s emotional needs, leading to widespread disillusionment in its educated classes.

    The human machine view is explicitly the communist philosophy.

    I think that a more accurately descriptive analogy goes one step further and identifies this perspective as the human-as-insect view, as machines were never human and ants, in contrast, can represent primitive non-human evolution (or devolution in the case of communists).

    This philosophy was penned by Jews. It is not debatable that Hitler tried to fight that view and its then-current nests to the East and West, but Jews were against that fight. As a result, Europe is now consumed by what you identify as its problem that nationalists tried to solve at great cost.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
    , @AaronB
  107. @Hippopotamusdrome

    There is however a Suleiman the Magnificent of the Ottoman Empire with his Hagia Sophia who would fit that description. Could that be who Solomon was based upon?

    That is an intriguing hypothesis. But Suleiman being from the 16th century CE, that would require a very, very radical redating of the Bible. I’m reading for revisiting the admitted chronology, but perhaps not that far.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
  108. @Laurent Guyénot

    That is of course the mandate for christians and many are. In fact the primary engagement and purpose for evangelical christians regarding Israel is just that.

    Even I have done that here. It is not as if your suggestion isn’t already in practice.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  109. @advancedatheist

    I think your view will be instructive in not advancing anything constructive.

  110. ANON[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    from a Review:

    . . . Brief but inspiring quotations from Anne’s diary are hand-lettered. The authors gloss over the exact horror of the deportations and killings even though, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, 107,000 Jews were deported to concentration camps from the Netherlands, with 5,200 surviving. Or as the author’s note unfortunately says: “Many Jews were forced into labor or killed.”

    Admiration for Anne’s writings is always good to see, but this fanciful cat’s-eye view minimizes the events and the systematic annihilation. (sources) (Picture book. 8-10)

    Reaction to Review:

    With all due respect, the 8-10 year old age range you cite in your review is incorrect. According to the publisher, Amazon, etc., this is a book for 4-8 years olds. Thus, your criticism that this book “glosses over” and “minimizes” the Holocaust is inappropriate. We attended The Cat Who Lived with Anne Frank’s book launch at the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles, a family event with a public reading. The MOT has embraced this book as a powerful, age-appropriate portal for a younger audience to learn about Anne Frank and the Holocaust…especially in this time of emboldened hate.

    Was the cat gassed?
    In this time of anti-felinism, this is important to know.

    DOG LOVERS ARE
    ANTI-FELINES!

    Stomp out cat-hate!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  111. @Digital Samizdat

    But what shall replace Christianity now that it is dead? Nihilism is an inherently unstable state; nature–including human nature–abhors a vacuum. We need some kind of civic religion to provide moral order.

    Atheists in the real world don’t act like the Christian belief about them. This suggests that atheists didn’t invent nihilism; instead Christians imagined nihilism late in history as a new Christian doctrine about atheism in response to the growth of nonbelief among quite functional people in Western countries since the Enlightenment, and they did so as a new strategy to try to recover from their loss of power and status.

    Of course, real atheists, as opposed to Christians’ fantasy atheists, face no obligation to live according to the Christian stereotype. And atheists have made enormous contributions to civilization in recent generations. You have to wonder why they would have bothered if they suffered from “nihilism.”

    For example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_in_science_and_technology

  112. PADOJO says:

    Dr. Guyenot, your book is excellent and so are your sources/recommendations. What needs to be sorely addressed is Zionist exploitation of Christ in the free world. Jewish and Christian Zionists are no different than Al Sharpton…never did see the first relavent issue (he/they) couldn’t exploit. It’s all about Israel first and nothing second. That is they ONLY seek to possess, enslave and then destroy (their) host…friend or foe…conquering nation or friendly host for the Zionist parasite. Good job as always. Like Douglas Reed your prior preparations have brought you to your most important work.

  113. Vojkan says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    You are treading a thin line. I wish too that they could be convinced to recant their belief in a vengeful, merciless, whimsical, jealous, nepotistic, ‘variable-geometry’ God. The world would be spared a lot of suffering.

  114. Svigor says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yeah I guess it depends. They’re pretty into buying both “sides” in the US, but obviously went all-in for the USSR.

  115. I find it interesting that impersonal market forces since the beginning of economic liberalism have played a role in secularizing society by pricing down the value of the “labor” of the men who become clergymen. Surveys in the U.S. of job and income prospects for college majors show that degrees in theology, religious studies and related subjects just don’t pay off in making their holders employable at decent wages. These majors fall into the neighborhood of art history, sociology, transgender studies and other degrees that conservatives ridicule in other contexts.

    Of course liberals mock conservative college students who major in subjects like, say, business. But these youngsters show that they know how to plan their lives better by working on becoming employable and upwardly mobile when they graduate. The business major demonstrates above-average agency in becoming a self-reliant adult in his early 20’s.

    Getting back to theology majors, in premodern times the capable men in European and early American societies had few career options, so by default a good percentage of them went into the church. When lay Christians saw that some of the best men in their communities ran their churches, this association lent the church authority. And ordinary Christians turned to these churchmen for guidance in how to run things.

    Now that the capable men have much better things to do with their lives by, say, going into medicine, business, finance, law, technology, the media and so forth, that leaves the church with the unenviable task of trying to find talent in the mediocre leftovers. This has resulted in the church losing status and authority in the modern world. The opinions of the typical theologian, priest or pastor now carry about as much weight in modern societies as a truck driver’s.

    And notice that this came about totally unplanned – a product of human action but not of human design, for the Hayekians out there. The market shows the ability to sort through a lot of combinations of factors to find what really adds value to the world, and Christianity wound up on the losing end.

  116. @Anon

    Very insightful discourse; thank you both.

    It is not debatable that Hitler tried to fight that view and its then-current nests to the East and West

    The heart of (the late, lamented) R H S Stolfi’s Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny is that Hitler and the German culture he sought to re-invigorate, was Romantic. Hitler’s passions were directed not toward militarism but to the arts and music, especially Wagner’s operatic work.

    Several years ago Metropolitan Opera staged The Ring Cycle on a controversial mechanical set designed by Robert LePage.

    Mr. Lepage seemed to have scant interpretive insight into a work that, since its 1876 premiere, has been seized upon by generation after generation as an allegory about roiling issues of the time: a Marxist narrative of class struggle; a cautionary tale about the corrupting influence of power; a warning about environmental destruction; an absurdist reflection of nihilistic leadership.

    There’s certainly much in our world with which the “Ring” resonates. But if Mr. Lepage has ideas about the relevance of the cycle today — or even about who Wagner’s characters are and how they relate to each other — little of that comes through. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/arts/music/review-met-opera-wagner-ring-rheingold-lepage.html

    The Met is using “The Machine” again this year as it presents all four parts of the Ring. The Machine’s designer was interviewed during last week’s HD simulcast of Valkyrie. He explained that he was inspired to set the Ring on 24 platforms strung on an axis, in a visit to Iceland where he witnessed (iirc) volcanic eruptions, that caused him to think of tectonic movements and clashes.

    iow, rather, in Stolfi’s words, Hitler was a far more complex character than an emotionless machine; and even the machine used to set the stage for the operas that inspired Hitler are more than just 45 tons of meaningless steel.

  117. Svigor says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Lol, who do you think brought him and it into existence, the Eskimos? They’re a reflection of the Jewish character.

    Secular Jews are an even bigger nightmare than religious Jews.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  118. AaronB says:
    @Anon

    Let me try and flesh out what I mean by accepting everything rather than engaging in dualistic thinking, and its impact on the person and culture.

    Let’s imagine a person who cannot accept that he is sometimes afraid. This person will avoid conflict, because he might feel fear, and he can’t do so without intolerable shame.

    Paradoxically, if he accepts the cowardice within himself, he won’t feel overwhelming shame if he feels fear during a conflict and will be willing to fight. By accepting his weakness he is stronger.

    This is what is meant when it is said a person is stronger when he accepts the Shadow.

    Paradoxically, by denying the evil and the weak in yourself, you deny the good and the strong.

    Let’s take the case of evil. The person who refuses to accept that he has evil within himself, won’t be able to do good. Because if he fails in his goodness the shame will be intolerable.

    This is so because the structure of reality is polarity.

    A thing can only be distinguished from its opposite. It cannot even be thought of without thinking its opposite. Once you grasp this fundamental characteristic of reality, it must change your whole outlook. You can no longer see the world as a battle between good and evil.

    You shift to a nondualistic conception of the world. This doesn’t mean there are no differences and everything is of equal value, but rather that one side of each pair of opposites cannot be abolished. It must be accepted and integrated.

    Now, wise traditional cultures all devised methods of integrating the polarity of life.

    Cultures that become one-sided, like ours, may achieve tremendous momentum for a time, but cannot endure for long because to the extent that one side wins, it becomes weaker and weaker. At a certain point, it loses all vitality.

    One of the worst blows to creativity is the concept of the genius, which emerged just as genuine genius started to decline. Now everyone wants to be a genius, and will accept nothing less. If one makes a tremendous effort but fails to be a genius, one feels overwhelming shame. So effort declines.

    Educated whites are particularly prone to this kind of apathy. This is partly why Jews and Asians are so much more motivated than whites these days – they accept the Shadow still, and so do not feel overwhelming shame if they make a tremendous effort and fail at genius.

    We can extend this principle of polarity to all aspects of a culture. A culture that pursues only abstract reason and bureaucratic management and control, and suppresses the imagination, will find that the sources of inspiration dry up, and abstract reason itself is left with nothing to apply itself to.

    So everything depends on its opposite, and that is why a strictly dualistic way of thinking is ultimately destructive. How could it not be, since it is at war with reality?

    As for noble Aryan values – of course they too existed only when their opposites were accepted and integrated. I explained how a denial of cowardice make a courage impossible.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  119. PADOJO says:

    An addendum; the book shown “Cultural Insurrections” by Dr. Mc Donald has been banned/censored on Amazon.com. The publisher given on the link has been deplatformed by the banking cabal. No credit cards or PayPal type services are usable. This on top of the Zionist agenda to gut the constitution of the first amendment. I sent my check to the publisher a week ago for the book. When will the conduit of Christianity (Paulanity, really) be severed? The Zios are doing this stuff at will and the stupid ‘Passionate Attachment’ keeps growing.

  120. Art says:
    @Colin Wright

    On a less exalted note, I’ve long found it a convincing theory that as Jews have ceased to take Judaism seriously and have become culturally almost indistinguishable from gentile whites, Israel and Zionism have become increasingly important as the sole remaining touchstone of Jewish identity.

    For many Jews, maybe American culture has won out over Jew culture?

    American Christian culture is clearly superior to Jew culture. American culture allows you to interact with all your neighbors. Whereas in the small minded inferior Jew culture, one must always be superior and separate from dangerous gentiles. Who needs all that hateful baggage.

    Orthodox Jewry is a contentious and rigid culture – marrying an orthodox Jew is actually marrying into a tribe, with an inflexible rules based culture.

    Think Peace — Art

  121. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @ANON

    “DOG LOVERS ARE ANTI – FELINES
    Stomp out cat-hate.”

    Eat a hot dog.

  122. @advancedatheist

    It doesn’t really matter what you think of it. It is part of an ethos for Israel’s support. I walk carefully around this issue of prophecy, that is a spiritual question. And very little in the way of damning it is going to change that support.

    Again the point of influence is probably not going to be attacks related to faith that are not tied what scripture, actually says.

    _________________________________

    But the wisest course is to the secular appraisals via the secular rules among nations.

  123. Anon[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    “Hell” comes from the Germanic Pagan word “Hel”, which means “hall” and is secondarily derived from the word “Valhalla” that is one level of the Germanic heaven that is specific to slain warriors.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_%28location%29#Etymology

    The word has cognates in all branches of the Germanic languages, including Old English hell (and thus Modern English hell), Old Frisian helle, Old Saxon hellia, Old High German hella, and Gothic halja. All forms ultimately derive from the reconstructed Proto-Germanic feminine noun *xaljō (‘concealed place, the underworld’). In turn, the Proto-Germanic form derives from the o-grade form of the Proto-Indo-European root *kel-, *kol-: ‘to cover, conceal, save’.

    The term is etymologically related to Modern English hall and therefore also Valhalla, an afterlife ‘hall of the slain’ in Norse Mythology. Hall and its numerous Germanic cognates derive from Proto-Germanic *hallō ‘covered place, hall’, from Proto-Indo-European *kol

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla

    Chosen by Odin, half of those who die in combat travel to Valhalla upon death, led by valkyries, while the other half go to the goddess Freyja’s field Fólkvangr.

    In Valhalla, the dead join the masses of those who have died in combat known as Einherjar and various legendary Germanic heroes and kings, as they prepare to aid Odin during the events of Ragnarök. Before the hall stands the golden tree Glasir, and the hall’s ceiling is thatched with golden shields.

    Odin describes Valhalla as shining and golden, and that it “rises peacefully” when seen from afar.

    the dead who fall in battle and become Odin’s adopted sons

    Note the difference between in Semitic mythological motivation in which Muslim warriors go to heaven to screw virgins and Jews fight to have a world in which they do not work, and Aryan motivation that has them go to a waiting hall to again wait for their chance to return to fight eternal evil once again.

    I ask, which speaks to the soul that would be most favored by a God? Which speaks to a purer soul?

    From at least the time of the Egyptians, the original he pagan “underworld”, which is the location of the Christian Hell, was not seen as a bad or good place by many pagans but simply the place from where everyone came from and went to when they died. For the living, it was the place where their ancestors resided.

    I think its safe to assume that the concept of the Christian “Hell” was invented and stygmatized as a dissuasive tool to be used against the native religions of Europe. In essence, it seeks to invert the beliefs of the Germanics by naming the Christian bad place the name of the Germanic good place that was filled with their ancestors (which is an anti-nationalism ploy).

    In the modern day, this simple propaganda trick is readily identifiable in a way that exposes a core Semitic Christian belief as entirely fabricated for imperialistic and political purposes.

  124. @advancedatheist

    The FED and its zionist owners are the controllers of America and the US government and that makes us all slaves of the FED and to say that this is a gutless way to spend my time on the internet is a cheap shot, but I suggest that you read the Protocols of Zion and Douglas Reeds book The Controversy of Zion and John Colemans book The Committee of 300, and take a look at the communist manifesto.

    Most people are afraid of the FED and their IRS and I am a supporter of Ron Paul.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  125. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘This. Jewish ‘leftism’ historically is mostly about destroying the church, the (goy) family and the (goy) nations. It is almost never about helping the working class or making life better for the goyim generally.’

    I don’t think that’s fair

    I’m not saying they actually wished gentiles well — but I don’t think destroying gentile society was really the motive.

    How isn’t it fair and how isn’t it the motive?

    To read the Jewish core texts is to learn that their religion centers around destroying non-Jewish societies.

    Right there is their primary admission that you are supposed to take very seriously. But for some reason you have faulty survival programming is preventing you from doing that.

    The Jews conceived of and headed communism, which still today is the central organized political force, other than Judiasm directly, which looks to destroy non-Jewish religion, the family unit, and nations.

    Your style of excusing your avowed enemy, in the face of all evidence of his will to destroy you (and because why, some Jew was superficially nice to you at some point in time?), is why the Jews call you “Japheth”. Which means gullible open-minded fool in the original Hebrew. No offense.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  126. @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    This god must not have had the ability to travel if he only knew one people, one bond, one family. Very deprived background, wouldn’t you say? When did he find out that there were other people in the world? He must have been shocked. As for 300 prophecies, someone could write a story in which 600 prophecies are fulfilled, that is twice as many.

  127. cryptcat says:

    But then we are suppose to be thankful for all those good jewish doctors. Take a look at this: this poor guy was under for 12 hours in a simple outpatient surgery and then it failed.

    https://cihorrorstory.com/

  128. Art says:

    The only reason that the Jew god has any standing in the world is because of Jesus. Jesus put Jews and their selfish tribal god on the map.

    Jesus gave us God 2.0 – his is a different god from the mean bloody mini Jew god – his is a universal god for all – a hopeful god – a merciful god – a forgiving god – and a god that valued truth.

    Except for oneness, by all intellectual standards, the two gods are different. The Christian God and the Jew god are not the same thing, they are not compatible. (Jews did not start monotheism.)

    No human has ever fully known God – God is an evolving perception of the creator of the universe.

    Art

    p.s. Darwin gave us God 3.0 – an uninvolved God.

  129. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    why does this state allow kippa appear on government function in white house ,allow Jewish rabbi meetings? why does the government allow every Friday sabbat break for the government officials?

    • Replies: @awry
  130. @AaronB

    One of the worst blows to creativity is the concept of the genius, which emerged just as genuine genius started to decline. Now everyone wants to be a genius, and will accept nothing less. If one makes a tremendous effort but fails to be a genius, one feels overwhelming shame. So effort declines.

    Educated whites are particularly prone to this kind of apathy. This is partly why Jews and Asians are so much more motivated than whites these days – they accept the Shadow still, and so do not feel overwhelming shame if they make a tremendous effort and fail at genius.

    What is this thing “genius?”

    Define it.

    You imply that genius is acquired through “effort.” What is the nature of that effort? Push-ups? Hours and hours playing piano or doing maths?

    Gertrude Stein was a self-described genius.
    In Time and Western Man, Wyndham Lewis put both James Joyce and Gertrude Stein’s linguistic innovations in the category “childish.”

    Miss Stein’s stutter in her
    explanation even of her other celebrated stutterings, is a
    proof, then, to my mind, that she is a homologue of the
    false-blind ; that, in some measure, she is a sham.

    . . .

    With a trick like Miss Stein’s, every one, I thiiik, should
    have to pay a fee for using it. It is quite certain that it
    would never have occurred to most of those who use it
    more or less, like the editor of the Q., for instance, without
    the promptings of the jazz-sibyl. This habit of speech,
    like a stuttering infection, is very contagious. Mr. Joyce
    even has caught it, and, one of the most pedagogically
    careful of men, has thrown overboard a great deal of
    laboriously collected cargo, and romps along at the head
    of the fashionable literary world, hand in hand with
    Gertrude Stein, both outdoing all children in jolly quaint-
    nesses.

    The child-personality, the all-importairt base of this
    school that I am attacking, and all that the affecting of
    that personality, and of the language of childhood, implies,
    is of such decisive importance, that 1 wiU now, during some
    pages, provide a brief analysis of this sudden malady of
    childhood that has mysteriously overtaken all our world,
    from the hoariest veteran down to the veritable child.

    So — what is the relationship between “childishness” and genius?

    Lewis attributes Chaplin’s “genius” / childishness to his shortness of stature, not unlike the “four-feet something Miss Loos.”

    wrt to Ms Loos, Lewis suggests that being “appreciated” reinforced her childishness.
    Niall Ferguson has said his compulsion to write stems from the wild praise his grandparents offered for his puerile writings.

    Does slathering praise on a budding prodigy produce genius?
    Is “genius” a compensation for stuntedness in some other realm?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @atlantis_dweller
  131. @Anon

    ‘…Your style of excusing your avowed enemy, in the face of all evidence of his will to destroy you (and because why, some Jew was superficially nice to you at some point in time?), is why the Jews call you “Japheth”. Which means gullible open-minded fool in the original Hebrew. No offense.’

    None taken. Where I part company with more definite anti-semites is that where you see a monolithic conspiracy, I see no such thing.

    Your average American Jewish leftist isn’t sitting in some dark yeshiva, stroking his tefillim and reading imprecations against the goyim in the Talmud.

    He doesn’t even practice his religion, and if he to some extent has imbibed an outlook that is implicitly subversive of Christian society, he’s hardly conscious of it. There just isn’t a grand plot. This isn’t to say everything is just fine — but no. There’s no grand plot.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  132. mcohen says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Hi zum

    Vegetarian. Had the dahl with a corona beer.I cannot bear to eat meat anymore,to think that you are eating an animal that has thoughts and feelings is too much.

    Armaggedon in the form of a bright red rupture.A tremendous spray of lava into the sky and with it the shaking.the horror the horror.
    Kurtz smiled and pointed his finger at the Palace du Pansies while lighting a durban poison inspired doobie.”More poof than puff” he said,and passed it on the left hand side.

  133. @DESERT FOX

    Who cares what Ron Paul says? He has had an easy life by sticking to attacking safe targets like the Federal Reserve. He also pays his income taxes and files his tax returns because he knows that the law requires him to do those things, which at least shows that he has more sense than libertarian kooks who deny the existence of the tax laws like Irwin Schiff and Vox Day’s father Robert Beale.

  134. AaronB says:
    @Grace Poole

    Genius is just high achievement in any domain. It’s obviously a combination of effort and ability.

    If you’re not willing to put in the effort, you won’t achieve much.

    If you can’t accept the possibility of failure, you won’t put in much effort. You gotta accept the Shadow before you can access your own strength and vitality. We know that successful people failed a lot in life.

    If you can’t accept the possibility of losing, you won’t fight. And so on, in every area of life.

    Its related to the adage perfection is the enemy of the good. If only perfect is acceptable, you may be too scared to start – or never finish.

    As for being appreciated and praised, obviously some measure of appreciation from significant others is necessary for motivation – or the anticipation of it.

    These are lessons our culture will have to relearn before we can access our own strength again.

    I’m particularly dismayed by the ridiculous mythology growing up around STEM – that it is exceptionally difficult and requires high intelligence. It’s nonsense. In fact math and software engineering are within the ken of most mildly bright people, and certainly simpler and easier in its linear clarity than something like literary criticism, which is loaded with ambiguity.

    This idea that only geniuses need apply is harmful.

    Our culture needs to climb down from the heights and get in touch with reality again.

  135. Tsigantes says:

    Thank you M. Guyenot.
    However it would do well to catch up on current textual scholarship which you can at least begin to hear about in this interview:
    Russel Gmirkin: Plato and the Creation of the Jewish Bible

    In sum, the jewish books are a pack of lies written to be accepted as truth for inclusion in the Alexandria library c.250 BC. They were always recognised as such by the early Christians.

    The jews were never anything more than a small band of primitive, violent, marauding invaders – land-grabbing nomads who never held more than a fewtowns and villages at a time. Not unlike ISIS who still squat in Idlib today…or the Kurds who have been pushing Iraqis and Syrian Christians off their ancestral lands, and who inevitably will be pushed off in turn. There was no kingdom, whatever Kings the jews may have had are the equivalent of gypsy kings, and the stories are tall tales, lifted directly out of other nations’ histories and literatures. Even the ‘Ten Commandments’ are not original.

    It would also be a help to learn more about Christianity itself and the difference between judaised western Christianity (especially the heretic protestants) and non-judaised, original eastern Christianity. Western Christians are taken in by these judo-centric questions because they accepted the OT as a holy book – which makes no sense at all in Christian terms. Meanwhile Eastern Christianity uses only the New Testament, the book of Christian faith.

    In fact it is madness itself to be studying the books of these liars instead of the great truths of Christianity.

  136. mcohen says:

    Lets face it, the earth is fucked and the blame lies squarely on the majority.

    And who might they be laurent?

    Christianity has saved nothing.Zero.The whole thing is going down in flames.

    The Palace du Pansies wrings its scrawny little limp wristed hands and proclaims …..The Climate The Climate. ….it has changed.

    Well pilgrims,it is to late now.

    The Lord of darkness stalks the hallowed hall
    Still time to heed the call
    Give it up for something new
    Convert now and be a Jew.

    orthodox might be a tad toooo righteous
    But we got seats available over at reform
    For the newly minted pious
    To keep you in good form.

    You can pay and pray
    With one silver dollar
    A new dawn a new day
    The bearded man did holler.

  137. mcohen says:
    @Tsigantes

    And what exactly are the “great truths of christianity.
    If they were so great then why is it not a universal truth and accepted by all as the one and only truth
    .hmmmmm what you got to say.waste my time with crap

    I am sure all the billions of muslims and buddhists and hindus and pinnochios would beg to differ
    hmmmmm what you got to say.

    Each to own i say and keep your relegious beliefs a personal matter.

    hmmmm say what?

    Summon the devil.You playing with fire Alistair

  138. Seraphim says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Jews were tolerated in Christian Europe because they were already there for hundreds of years with a defined status in the Laws of the Roman Empire, laws inherited by the new European Kingdoms. Christians did not give up hope that eventually Jews would wake up from their slumber (St Paul quotes Isaiah) and be baptized. Despite the frictions, they were belonging to the Hellenistic-Roman Oekumene and living in the mental framework of its worldview.
    Muslims were completely aliens to the Oekumene and completely averse to its worldview.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  139. Rich says:

    Christian morality is a good thing. Monogamy, sobriety, hard work, caring for one’s family, these are good things. Maybe most people need a magic man in the sky and a burning hell in order to live decent lives. I can’t say, but what I do know, is that I’ve never seen a miracle, never seen magic and, like St Thomas, won’t believe it unless I see it. There is, however, natural law, which dictates a lifestyle that is completely in accordance with the basics of Catholicism and Christianity. I’m okay with that.

    • Replies: @Anon
  140. @freedom-cat

    Solzhenitsyn (glad his name is in spell check)

    .

    It is not me only, then. 😀

  141. @Grace Poole

    Listen to a late sonata for the piano by Schubert: two minutes are enough.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  142. @Laurent Guyénot

    I thought God didn’t speak. But he does speak and this is what he says: “You put skin in the game and I’ll give you everybody else’s stuff.”

  143. Thomas Jefferson saw through the Jewish bullshit in the racist, hate filled OT and despised the whole thing. He then took a blade to the Gospels(NT)and cut out what he considered to be fairy tales and left only the teachings on morality by Jesus. This brought the NT into line with natural law. The world would be a much better place if the Jefferson Bible text was taught and followed by Christians. Just one mans opinion.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  144. @Johnny Walker Read

    “Question with boldness even the existence of a God,” he urged his nephew, Peter Carr, in 1787, “because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.”
    Thomas Jefferson
    https://thehumanist.com/magazine/march-april-2012/features/the-bible-according-to-thomas-jefferson

  145. @Seraphim

    ‘Jews were tolerated in Christian Europe because they were already there for hundreds of years with a defined status in the Laws of the Roman Empire, laws inherited by the new European Kingdoms. Christians did not give up hope that eventually Jews would wake up from their slumber (St Paul quotes Isaiah) and be baptized. Despite the frictions, they were belonging to the Hellenistic-Roman Oekumene and living in the mental framework of its worldview.
    Muslims were completely aliens to the Oekumene and completely averse to its worldview.’

    What utter and pathetic nonsense.

    Jews aligned themselves with Islam as long as it was winning — then they switched sides when it became apparent the Christians were pulling ahead.

    As to who tolerates who, Christians have never tolerated anyone, and the brief history of Israel suggests, neither do Jews, given the choice.

    Islam does. Not that the faith doesn’t have it’s faults — but its absurd for anyone from a Christian society to accuse it of intolerance.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  146. Seraphim says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The mandate was for all Christians from the very beginning:

    “6 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:16-20).
    The ‘Bible’ must be read with “Christian glasses”:
    “You pore over the Scriptures because you presume that by them you possess eternal life. These are the very words that testify about Me, 40yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.…(John 5:39) – that was already prophesied by Isaiah: “For the Lord has made you to drink a spirit of deep sleep; and he shall close their eyes, and [the eyes] of their prophets and of their rulers, who see secret things. 11 And all these things shall be to you as the words of this sealed book” – quoted by Paul, Romans 11:8.

    “26Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and then to enter His glory?” 27And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.” (Luke 24:26-27).

    But Dr. Guyenot (presented as a “non-doctrinaire Christian”) prefers to read the Torah with Muslim glasses: “He was alluding to the notion of tahrif: the Qur’anic doctrine, backed up by numerous hadiths, holding that the Torah (like the Zabur and Injil) was originally an authentic divine message, but that what survives today is the product of alteration and distortion by human transmitters”, as Kevin Barrett (translator of From Yahveh…) informs us. And with the inverted lenses of Spinoza, the originator of ‘high Biblical criticism’.
    Behind the overt criticism of ‘Yahvism’ is a concealed criticism of Christianity in the good tradition of French atheist ‘libre penseurs’. One should have been warned by his ‘truc’: “A New Perspective on John the Baptist”, in which he regurgitates all the cliches of the ‘Jesus Seminary’.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Anon
  147. @atlantis_dweller

    thanks

    2 min are not nearly enough.

  148. The question of whether such dialectical machinery was engineered by Yahweh or by B’nai B’rith is open to debate

    .

    It would be a pretty short debate: if those are the only two choices then B’nai B’rith wins by default, since Yahweh is a fictional character.

    Nobody seriously wonders whether Spiderman’s web-shooting gizmos were engineered by Ⓐ Stan Lee or Ⓑ Peter Parker… or whether quidditch was Ⓐ invented by J.K. Rowling (as she claims), or Ⓑ she happened to see a game being played at Hogwarts.

    When trying to determine the source of a thing, it’s best to ignore anything supernatural or fictional – assuming you want to be taken seriously.

    Also…

    When discussing the Joshua narrative (and Kings, and Exodus), it’s also worthwhile to read the terrific archaeological work of Israel Finkelstein, who makes a compelling case that it was all fiction: no captivity in Egypt ; no Moses; no Exodus; no ‘kingdom’ of Solomon, David or Saul; no walls falling down at Jericho; no campaign of genocide and theft.

    It really does appear that at all relevant times, the region was a province of Egypt.

    So “Exodus”-ing from ‘captivity’ in Egypt by going to Canaan, would be like “Exodus”-ing from ‘captivity’ in the US by going to Idaho or Montana.

    And of course there’s no evidence whatsoever for a group of 2 million people[1], wandering around the Levantine desert for 40 years – in order to cover a distance of ~240 miles… inb4 anyone claims that 2 million people spent 38 of those years at Kadesh Barnea (Tell el-Qudeirat): no way that site ever had a population even 1/100th that size, because if it did there would be tonnes of refuse.

    We’re making progress on dismantling this primitive nonsense though… firstly by prising the control of archaeology out of the talons of True Believers.

    When I was a kid ~40 years ago, the ‘Moses Myth” hypothesis was still contentious: now it’s mainstream.

    40 years before that, the Virgin Birth was still mainstream; by the 1980s that’s acknowledged as allegory (at best).

    40 years before that, the Genesis narrative was still mainstream.

    40 years before that, people were expected to believe the whole shebang, from soup to nuts.

    Nowadays it’s only the ‘Jesus Myth’ hypothesis that is still contentious, even though it’s now known with certainty that all references to the dude that we possess, were written at least 70 years after he was supposedly nailed to a tree.

    Truth advances one funeral at a time – the True Believers in fields like Archaeology are being replaced by people who do actual science rather than apologetics disguised as scientific work.

    [1] Exodus says 600,000 military-aged men; demography gets that up to about 2 million by adding older males, and women and children. That’s twice the population of modern Jerusalem, and they left no evidence of either their wandering, nor of their arrival in Canaan.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @jacques sheete
  149. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    What utter and pathetic ignorance.

  150. @Colin Wright

    It’s all they have left.

    Well, that and genital mutilation of their baby boys – with optional fellatio by a whackball (the metzitzah b’peh), which is a handy way to get the kid infected with an STD nice and early.

    Even atheist Red Sea Pedestrians tend to maintain the genital-mutilation schtick… usually defenders of this barbaric shit claim it’s for ‘hygiene’ (for which the putative scientific evidence is terrible, and no better than teaching your kid to wash his dick).

    If Africans (and others) who genitally-mutilate their daughters tried to claim that their monstrous and barbaric ritual was for ‘hygiene’, they would rightly be castigated for being obviously dishonest.

  151. @Seraphim

    I think you are correct about the mandate. It’s just that not all christians are so inclined. But no doubt “go ye therefore likewise and make all nations (Some references use people) . . . ”

    No argument from me.

    When it comes to grasping the spiritual nature of scripture, I am not sure there is much value in contending with atheists, many even when the scripture in context is laid out line by line will find a means to mangle the meaning.

    But your references make sense to me.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  152. renfro says:
    @Laurent Guyénot


    ”Besides, I am a philo-Semite: my deepest wish is to free the Jews from their Mad God Yahweh”

    That’s interesting. Why are you a philo-Semite ? ….what inspires your love for Jews?

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  153. We hate “Jews”! But we love capitalism!

    Confused bunch here at Unz.

    Good article, yeah Zionists and most “Jews” are pretty despicable folks, like a mixture of the Mafia and a deranged death cult, but I don’t think you can blame them for all of America or Europe’s wars/imperialism, America has been at war pretty much since its founding, way before Israel or Zionism, in the end its all about money, power, control, greed.

    Theres also a lot of “Jews” who do the right thing, abandon the cult, speak out against the evil of the Zionists, but we don’t hear much from them in the media. So if anyone is to blame for “antisemitism” the media would be at the top. Maybe they should start being honest about things, and giving us everyones point of view, not just the views of the Zionists, capitalist/imperialists.

    I’ve been reading some of this guys book, Jerry Muller Capitalism and the Jews, interesting stuff.


    Seems the only nations on earth today not under control of the “Jews” are either communist/socialist or Islamic. Maybe we need a system that doesn’t allow the elite “Jews” to buy up everything, including all the media, banks, companies, even our food and water.

    This is a pretty good film, explains the absurdity of the “Jews” bing “Gods chosen people”

  154. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    LOL I’ll bow to no Rabbi, Jew-worshiper. Your magic Jew was fictional anyway, his “historical account” is pure FAKE NEWS. The morons who wrote the Gospels couldn’t even keep their lies straight about when he was “born.”

    It is beyond reasonable dispute that Luke dates the birth of Jesus to 6 A.D. It is equally indisputable that Matthew dates the birth of Jesus to 6 B.C. (or some year before 4 B.C.). This becomes an irreconcilable contradiction after an examination of all the relevant facts…

    The Date of the Nativity in Luke (6th ed., 2011)
    Richard Carrier
    https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html

  155. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Especially considering:

    (1.) Bolshevists Hate the Successful:

    • “But woe unto you that are rich!” Luke 6:24
    • “Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor.” Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 18:22
    • “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25
    “Guard against all kinds of greed, life does not consist in abundance…fool…” (Parable of the Rich Fool) Luke 12:13-21
    • “There was a rich man…in torment…agony…remember that in your lifetime you received your good things…” (The Rich Man and Lazarus) Luke 16:19-31

    (2.) Bolshevists are Collectivists:

    • “Each according to his ability.” Matthew 25:15
    • “Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.” Acts 4:32
    • “Distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” Acts 4:35
    • “Daily distribution.” Acts 6:1
    • “Liberal distribution.” 2 Corinthians 9:13

    (3.) Bolshevists use coercive fear tactics to extort money:

    • “Great fear seized the whole church.” Acts 5:11

  156. mcohen says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Well krat

    as any monkey will tell you once you peel away the skin you get the fruit.
    Blessed is the fruit.
    Once you peel away the myth you get this great life map on how to lead a exemplary life.The day to day stuff of the laws is a good thing.A proven, tried and tested,way of life.
    For instance it is not kosher to eat a dog or cat or any carnivorous animal.Judaism is the only relegion world wide that forbids this.Read this and learn to be a better person

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Art
    , @Robjil
    , @Vojkan
  157. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    “When his friends heard it, they went out to seize him: for they said, ‘He is insane.’” Mark 3:21

  158. Seraphim says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    It is ‘nations’. This is the correct translation of τά ἔθνη/gentes, like הַגויִם in the O. T., “foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles”.
    The correct translation of μαθητεύσατε is ‘teach’. It is actually “preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned” (Mark 16:15-16), “Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” (Luke 24: 46-47).
    The translation ‘make disciples’ is misleading, it suggests that the mission of the Apostles is proselytism. It is current in Protestant ‘Bibles’.

    I do not argue with atheists, few, if any, are amenable to reason. They fall into the category described by St. Paul in his warning to Timothy:
    “For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths” (2 Timothy 4:3-4).
    “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. 5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: 6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm” (1 Timothy 1:4-7).

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @anon
  159. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    The ‘Bible’ must be read with “Christian glasses,” or maybe a secret decoder ring in the bottom of your Fruit Loops box? LOL

    You Jew-worshiping wannabee-Jews are more pathetic than Elizabeth Warren identifying as an Injun.

    “For it is we who are the Circumcision.” (Philippians 3:3)

    P.S. It’s OK to be White.

  160. ANONYMOUS[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tsigantes

    Who would you want your wife or your daughter to look to — Esther or Mary?

    What ‘bible’ tales are better food for your children’s brains and souls, Purim or the Loaves and Fishes?

    • Replies: @Tsigantes
    , @Art
  161. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Oops, you’re playing checkers instead of chess. Christians officially identify as wannabee-Jews, per Philippians 3:3, just like Elizabeth Warren identifies as an Injun. Sad, but true.

  162. Alden says:
    @ANON

    There’s an article about Anne’s cat online in this week’s Los Angeles Jewish Review. Dizzzzzgusting.
    I’m sure it will show up in every K-8 school Library and reading list and every public library in the country.

  163. Alden says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Sueliman ruled the Turkish empire something like 1490 to 1550 AD. He was a real person and so
    Was his Empire. His ancestors were real historical Turkish Sultans HagiaSophia was built 500 AD by eastern Roman emperor Justinian who was a Roman Catholic.

    The mythological Solomon was around 3,000 BC. He may have been based on some gypsy nomad headman or he may be a total mythological creation

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  164. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Let’s not forget that it is the Catholic Church that established the first charitable hospitals…

    Wrong.

    In the Asclepieion of Epidaurus, three large marble boards dated to 350 BC preserve the names, case histories, complaints, and cures of about 70 patients who came to the temple with a problem and shed it there. Some of the surgical cures listed, such as the opening of an abdominal abscess or the removal of traumatic foreign material, are realistic enough to have taken place, but with the patient in a state of enkoimesis induced with the help of soporific substances such as opium.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hospitals#Ancient_Greece

    The Jew-worshipers are always taking the credit for what was done earlier.

  165. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Jesus taught none of that sort of morality. The Ten Commandments of Leftism are all precepts of the Rabbi Jesus found in the Jew Testament.

    1. International Globalist agenda. (Matthew 28:19)
    2. Muh equalism. (Galatians 3:28)
    3. Refugees welcome—or else. (Matthew 25:31-46)
    4. Africanization. (Acts 8:26-40, Acts 13:1)
    5. Communism. (Acts 4:32-35, Acts 6:1)
    6. Despise success. (esp. Luke 6:24, also Matthew 19:21-24, Mark 10:21-25, Luke 12:13-21, 16:19-31, 18:22-25)
    6. Reject your own blood and soil. (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30)
    7. Hate your life. (Luke 14:26, John 12:25)
    8. Love enemy’s life. (Matthew 5:43-46)
    9. Don’t bother reproducing, be a childless cat lady. (Matthew 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23, Luke 23:29)
    10. Teh Gibs. (Matthew 5:40-42, Luke 6:29-30)

    Christians succeed in life to the extent that they explain away the plain meaning of Jesus words with creative interpretation that overturns what Jesus really said.

    • Replies: @Rich
  166. Alden says:
    @ANON

    You mean the Museum of We Hate The White Goyim? I live nearby. My opinion is that is also a fortress like the Vienna KarlMarxHof housing project built by the communist city council of Vienna in the 1920s.

    The Museum of We Hate the White Goyim is also like the block long mosque in Culver City. And the 1900 Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem built in the site of an old Roman fortress.

    The KarlMarxHof the Jewish museum and the big mosque all double as fortresses with arms depots, tunnels communication centers etc, all ready for subversive activities a spy hostel local Mossad and Jewish traitor headquarters

    Tim Wise ran his operation out of the Los Angeles Jewish museum for a while. I’m convinced that fortress museum is the center of an Israeli spy operation. You should see it, a massive windowless brown granite fortress in a neighborhood of 1 and 2 story white stucco offices and small shops.

    It’s like the Tower of London must have been in 1100 surrounded by ordinary buildings.

    They’ve got a lot of gangly black young men in security guard blazers loping around the sidewalk. Inside are tough Israelis with machine guns. The mega rich Jews of Beverly Hills Century City are all thrilled by these guards as it’s proof they are Gods special people.

    The Museum claims it and the BH mega rich Jews are under constant threat by White nationalist KKK Neo Nazis aryan Nations. Redneck Evangelicals and the other bogeymen that keep the bank accounts of the Jewish establishment full. At least Tim Wise isn’t there anymore.

    The sight of the Jewish Museum causes my anti Semitism to rise to explosive levels. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had an atom bomb and a tank battalion hidden away in that fortress.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  167. Alden says:
    @mcohen

    Observing a few elements of kosher laws like not eating certain animals and sea critters is just observing dietary rules.

    It has nothing to do with morals and behavior. Aren’t the Kushners and genocidal Israelis and Israeli slave brothel owners glatt kosher?

    Nothing worse than food faddists bragging about what they can and cannot eat.

    I actually respect women who go to the extra trouble, work and expense of running a kosher household. At least they just do it instead of yapping about the latest vegetarian fads.

    But food taboos have nothing to do with morals.

  168. Hibernian says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Immaculate Conception means she was born without original sin. It doesn’t mean she was conceived the same way that Jesus was. She had a natural father and mother, Joachim and Anna. Somehow I think you know this.

  169. Tsigantes says:
    @ANONYMOUS

    My comment makes that clear: Mary / and the loaves and fishes…..obviously.

  170. anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    I guess Jews interact directly with God, and the rest of us will intact with the Jews as if they, collectively, were God. It’s a strange arrangement. I’m not sure it will work.

  171. Ron Unz says:
    @Alden

    You mean the Museum of We Hate The White Goyim? I live nearby. My opinion is that is also a fortress like the Vienna KarlMarxHof housing project built by the communist city council of Vienna in the 1920s.

    Ha, ha. Palo Alto opened a big new Jewish center about a decade ago, and it’s also built like a gigantic concrete fortress, presumably because of the terrible risk that all the local software developers and venture capitalists will eventually organize a horrific pogrom. I think this will be eventually become known as the “Fortress Era” of Jewish architecture in America.

    Jewish paranoia really seems to be getting pretty ridiculous these days…

    • Replies: @mcohen
  172. @Robert Dolan

    You’ll never separate Christianity from Judaism. The latter is a permanent blind spot for the former. While Christians acknowledge Jesus as a Jew n try to treat Jews with compassion n gentleness, Jews always see Christians as nothing more than corruptors of Judaism n despise them. You’ll never fix the issue of Jews n Israel taking advantage of naive Christians until you dump Christianity. Christianity is almost dead anyway. It’s time to give it last rites n sweep both religions into the dustbin of history. Only then can the West begin to restore its independence from the poison of these Semitic ideologies.

  173. @Seraphim

    I won’t get started on scripture. I just thought I would confirm your comments regarding the mandate to extend the gospel —

    —————–

    “I do not argue with atheists, few, if any, are amenable to reason.”

    Well, I don’t mind exchanges regarding scripture. The existence of God, there’s no point. But if i decide to discuss scripture, then i will do so in full and with every intent of walking cautiously and in context. At the moment I remain disturbed by the last encounter on the subject as in became something a tad more dark than I had anticipated.

    At any rate, understood your comments and agree with most of your observations and have no issues with the scripture references you proferred.

  174. @Bibi

    The “Christ” is another stolen borrowed principle, that was in the historical archives long before Jesus was born. The virgin birth was also borrowed. Christ and risen Christ are about transformation into a higher state of being.

  175. Art says:
    @ANONYMOUS

    What ‘bible’ tales are better food for your children’s brains and souls, Purim or the Loaves and Fishes?

    Exactly – the stories that Jews tell their children destroy their empathy and humanity, for the rest of their lives. Those stories cloud Jew thinking – they obstruct their capacity for honesty when it comes to politics.

    What they do amounts to child abuse – they terrorize their children into fearing the rest of humanity. This has been going on for thousands of years.

    They even tell their children that their god will kill other children for them — Passover.

    Jewry is inferior and it is a sickness.

    • Replies: @anon
  176. Art says:
    @mcohen

    Once you peel away the myth you get this great life map on how to lead a exemplary life.The day to day stuff of the laws is a good thing. A proven, tried and tested,way of life. (Jewry)

    You mean exemplary like Israelis – like Israeli laws against Palestinians – like apartheid walls – you mean exemplary like killing Gaza children?

    You mean exemplary like your misleading mendacious dishonest comments that totally ignore the reality of the results of your culture’s actions?

    Hmm?

    • Replies: @mcohen
  177. @renfro

    I have no special love for Jews in general. This is rather my line of defense, when I get attacked for anti-Semitism (quite useless in fact: I lost my job anyway). But it is also my deep conviction that the only way to deal positively with this problem is to attack Jewishness, not Jews. Jewishess (=Yahweh) is a mental prison, and when Jews are freed from it, they are no longer Jews (like Gilad Atzmon). That’s it in a nutshell, I know it is more complicated.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  178. @Svigor

    Another way to look at it: Yahweh was an invention of the “cognitive elite” of Biblical times, namely the Levites, who used this mask to control and exploit the other tribes. The leitmotiv in the Bible is that “the people” are constantly disobedient and try to break free from Yahweh’s yoke. Still today, I think it is important to consider that the majority of Jews are manipulated by their elite through the new face of Yahweh: Holocaust. That said, after being internalized for a hundred generations, Jewishness goes much deeper than just a belief system. Nevertheless, I believe the only way to go is to attack Jewishness, not the Jews.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  179. @Tsigantes

    It would also be a help to learn more about Christianity itself and the difference between judaised western Christianity (especially the heretic protestants) and non-judaised, original eastern Christianity. Western Christians are taken in by these judo-centric questions because they accepted the OT as a holy book – which makes no sense at all in Christian terms. Meanwhile Eastern Christianity uses only the New Testament, the book of Christian faith.

    Are you sure of that? It does seem that Christianity has been progressively Judaized as it spread from East to West. Roman Catholicism is definitely more Jewish than Eastern Orthodoxy, by a number of traits (I have a section in my book titled “the Levitical Vatican”), and Prostestantism, especially Calvinism (= Puritanism) is even more so. And that Judaization has much to do with the place given to the Old Testament (the Troyan Horse of Judaism within Christianity, so to speak). But I have never been able to find confirmation of what you say: that the Old Testament has little place in Orthodox Christianity. Can you direct me to some scholarly work on that subject?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Che Guava
  180. @Colin Wright

    I have just read three Comments by you on this thread and I congratulate you on the shrewd realism. Nothing but Israel (apart from family and local associations) to make them feel Jewish. Check. Nothing monolithic. Yes. Likelihood of young men and, not least, women from the shtetl rebelling against the rabbinical oppressiveness and finding positives in American freedom and modernity. That figures.

  181. Alden says:
    @joeshittheragman

    .
    His mother Mary was a Jew of the house of David. So he was a Jew, even if his father was both the special Jewish God and the universal God of all peoples.

    Amazing what people will believe.

    Mary and the Jew Joseph got married months before Jesus’ birth. So he had 2 Jewish parents and he was born in wedlock I don’t know anything about Jewish marriage laws at the time. I gathered somewhere that he wasn’t supposed to get married because he was God.

    • Replies: @awry
  182. mcohen says:
    @Ron Unz

    My browser says unzreview site is dangerous.
    Paranoia is catchy

  183. Rich says:
    @Anon

    I don’t know, I’ll take your word on those quotes, but you have to admit, Christianity teaches its adherents to live monogamous, sober, family oriented lives. Studies have shown that living this kind of lifestyle will help prevent one from living in poverty. Some folks need religion to get them there. I’m okay with that.

    • Replies: @Anon
  184. Anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @joeshittheragman

    LOL Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, who taught in Jewish Synagogues, and was popular among the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. My guess his popularity was fueled by his hatred of Gentile patriarchy ((Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25). Not much has changed in 2000 years!

    • Luke 4:15 “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their synagogues and was praised by everyone.”

    And if Jesus wasn’t a Jew, you’re worshiping the wrong guy.

    • John 4:22 Salvation is from the Jews.”

    It is truly hilarious watching morons try to de-Jew Jewsus. Can’t be done anymore than you can de-swine ham. Muh bacon was immacculately packaged, now it’s chicken! TADA!

    Christians started this whole TRANNY movement, thinking natural reality can be transformed by word magic.

    • Romans 12:2 Be ye trannyformed by the renewing of your mind.

    And that includes the same gender-bender anti-heterosexual horseshit found on Leftist college campuses today.

    • Matthew 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    Christianity is a revolt against nature. And Jesus’ sexual perversion is mighty Jewish. Like I said, nothing much has changed in 2000 years.

    • Replies: @anon
  185. Anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    If you’d actually read the Bible, both Paul and Jesus specifically advocated that people not get married, while Paul begrudgingly allowed some normal heterosexual behavior for his tax donkey followers. Nowhere did Jesus advocate marriage. Jesus specifically advocated that his follows castrate themselves. (Matthew 19.11-12) Jesus specifically condemned normal people living normal lives so much his disciples concluded “It is better not to marry.”

    And ask your local priest about Jesus’ boy-loving pederasty (John 13:23-25) that they learned in SEMEN-ary. The pederastic priests abusing altar boys are simply being more like Jesus.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @wah wah wah
  186. awry says:
    @anon

    Some animals are more equal than others?

  187. awry says:
    @Alden

    When we look at the genealogy of Jesus provided in the Gospel of Matthew, we find that it traces the lineage of Jesus from Abraham to Joseph…not Mary. Nowhere in the Gospels are we given an explicit account of Mary’s family tree. This being said, there are several issues to be taken into consideration. First, it was the usual custom that marriages take place within tribes so it is possible (though by no means certain) that Mary also belonged to the House of David.

    https://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/was-mary-of-the-house-of-david-or-just-joseph

    So, as you see Matthew said that it was Joseph who was from the house of David. Apparently the notion that he wasn’t the father of Jesus didn’t occur to him.
    Matrineality in Judaism seem to be originating from around the same time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality_in_Judaism

  188. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    If Jewry’s Passover is a sickness, then so is Jewsus himself, because your Jewish savior was the epitome of the Passover shtick. And did you not know that the Paschal (Easter) holiday is equivalent to Passover?

    The Christian holy day generally falling on the first day of the Jewish Passover.
    https://wikidiff.com/paschal/passover

    It’s amazing to me how blitheringly unaware you Christians are of your own religion. You can’t remove the Jewishness from Christianity any more than you can remove the stench of a turd in a punchbowl, even if you desperately try scooping out a few chunks.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Art
  189. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    This article is not about religion God or emancipation of soul from the trappings of the worldly -interests . It is about the abuse of the concepts of the religion God or emancipation of soul from the trappings of the worldly interests by the psychopath intelligent amoral power hungry , worldly – trappings hungry Jews who believe that they are separate ,entitled,and deserving of fruits of the sacrifices,toils, and sufferings of the rest .

    Try to understand the deeper darker relevance of this article. That is anything the gentiles create ,build,mike that shine,illuminate and construct for the greater good of humanity ,will be corrupted from within by the Jews . They did that to the Egyptian and Persian in BC They did that to the Moorish Spain . They did that to Catholics. They destroyed the dreams and trust the Russians put faith into- Bolshevism . They destroyed America in the intentional imprecise and distorted responses to 911 . America was enamored of the Jews and was nervous of terrorism to the death .Both were created by the Jews.
    They are destroying Islam through the Saudis. Saudis are enamored of Jew Saudis are also nervous to the death of Iran. Both are created by the Jews .

  190. Robjil says:
    @mcohen

    No culture eats carnivorous animals as their main source of protein.
    Even Asian cultures that eat cats and dogs do not eat them as the main source of their protein needs. Forbidding the eating carnivorous animals is not a big deal, all cultures know that and do not eat them as their main source of protein. Asian cultures who eat these carnivorous animals, note that it brings “heat” to your body when you eat such animals. That “heat” effect is probably the human body recognizing that carnivorous animals have little or no plant nutrients emanating from the meat. In every culture that eat carnivorous animals, this meat is a specialty dish and not a main staple dish.

  191. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    One can live with the imagination of the child but not with the perversion of the human values by the Jew .

  192. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    It’s difficult to maintain that the Old Testament has little place in Orthodox Christianity, since the Jew Testament has at least 937 references to the Old Testament, including many direct quotes. Trying to remove Judaism from Christianity is like trying to extract the turd from the punchbowl. No matter how much one may ignore the turd, or how desperately one tries to scoop out chunks, the essence remains.

    • Replies: @anon
  193. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Trying to remove Judaism from Christianity is like trying to extract ”

    But you have to. Otherwise the hate speech will flourish in the hands of the Jews and the free speech will die in the hand of the Jews while legitimate expression of views by gentiles will be moderated by these very jews.

    Otherwise history of sanctions against Germany will be revered and sanction against Iran will be celebrated while sanction against Israel (BDS) will be demonized, denounced and criminalized .

    Meaning for the open border for the needy will be lost by the promotion of the open border outside Israel for all by the Jews and closing of the Israel borders to all non -Jews pout in place by Jews .

    Otherwise the entity that promoted violent liberation of Kuwait from Saddam by the forces who gave Golan away to Israel through the linguistic manipulation of same forces by the same ugly entity will not be understood.

    • Replies: @Anon
  194. Hibernian says:
    @Svigor

    “…some very threadbare Scriptural bases…”

    The same justification is given by Protestants for just about ignoring Mary. “Hail, full of Grace…” should be a real thing for a Bible believer.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  195. @OEMIKITLOB

    Jesus called the Jews a nest of vipers and cursed the fig tree. Jesus transcends Judaism. And the Jews said let his death be upon us and our children. Who blew out the light in your mind?

  196. @anon

    It is very easy to remove the Jewishness from Christianity if one wants to do it. It is also very easy to brainwash it back in.

    • Replies: @Anon
  197. @Anon

    Why not? The dictionary is full of words. It is easier to change a person’s understanding of something than to remove all trace of it.

  198. @Agent76

    Q. What is religion ?

    A. Religion, according to St. Augustine, is the bond which unites man to God ; in other words, religion is the society of man with God.

    Q. Explain this answer?

    A. Between parents and children there exist ties, or natural and sacred relations. In the same manner there exist relations between God, the creator and father of man, and man, who is the creature and child of God. The ties which exist between God and man are even more sacred than those which unite the son to his father.

    Q. Why so?

    A. Because we owe more to God than a son owes to his father ; God is our creator and our last end, which cannot be said of our earthly fathers. From which we must conclude that our obligations to God are much more holy than are the obligations of children to their parents.

    Q. What does the word religion signify?

    A. The word religion signifies the tie by excellence, or the re-tieing. The tie by excellence, because religion unites us in a supernatural manner to God, whois the most perfect of beings ; the re-tieing, because our Lord, by offering himself up to his father as a victim for us, has re-established the supernatural union which existed between God and man previous to original sin.

    Q. Is there any other religion than the religion of
    Jesus Christ?

    A . No, there is no other religion than the religion of Jesus Christ, because Jesus Christ alone, as both God and man, could expiate sin, reconcile man to God, and re-establish the supernatural tie which united them.

    Q. Is the true religion, or religion of Jesus Christ, of ancient date?

    A. The religion of Jesus Christ is as ancient as the world. For it goes back to the time when the Son of God offered himself to his Father to redeem man, and has always had as the object of its faith and its hope this same Mediator and the same rewards.

    Q. Has religion been at all times as fully taught as it is at the present day?

    A. No, religion has not been at all times as fully taught as it is at the present day. But it has not on
    that account ceased to be the same religion, any more than man, by passing through the different stages of life, ceases to be the same man.

    Q. What difference is there between the faithful who preceded and those who have come after the Messiah ?

    A . The difference is that the ancient just believed in Jesus Christ to come, whilst we believe in Jesus Christ already come. Our faith, our hope, our religion is the same as that of the patriarchs and prophets.

    Q. Why did God delay so long the coming of the Messiah ?

    A. He delayed the coming of the Messiah so long, 1st, in order that man might know, by a long experience of his miseries, the need he had of a Redeemer, and that he might desire his coming more ardently.

    2d, that he might recognise Jesus Christ as the Messiah, seeing that all the figures, promises and prophecies were accomplished and verified in him.

    Q. What has been the object of all the designs of God since the commission of original sin ?

    A. The object of all the designs of God, since the commission of original sin, has been to save man. Be fore the coming of the Messiah, all his designs had for their end to prepare man s redemption, and since the coming, to maintain and extend its blessings to all men.

    Q. What fruit do we derive from this truth ?

    A . The fruit we ought to derive from this truth is, to love God as he has loved us, constantly and solely.

    Q. Why did God make known the mystery of the redemption only by degrees ?

    A. God made known the mystery of the redemption only by degrees, in order to consult man’s weakness. A great many previous miracles were necessary to dis pose him to believe this greatest of all miracles.

    The Messiah promised and prefigured. First Promise. Adam and Abel the first and second figures or types of the Messiah.

    Q. How did God make known the Redeemer to come

    A. God made known the Redeemer to come, 1st,
    by promises, 2d, figures, and 3d, by prophecies.

    Q. What do you understand by figures of the Messiah ?

    A. By figures of the Messiah, I understand certain actions, certain events, certain personages, that represented beforehand the characteristics and actions of the Messiah.

    Q. How do we know that the patriarchs, the sacrifices, and the whole Jewish people were a figure of the Messiah ?

    A. We know that the patriarchs, the sacrifices and the whole Jewish people were a figure of the Messiah, 1st, on the authority of our Lord himself, and that of the apostles and evangelists. St. Paul in particular says that Jesus Christ is the end of the Mosaic law, and that whatever happened to the Jews was a figure of what was accomplished among Christians.

    2d, on the authority of the fathers of the church ; St. Augustine says that the whole Jewish people were only a grand figure of the Messiah.

    3d, by the conformity or resemblance of the figures to our Lord, for in look ing at several portraits of the same person, drawn by different artists, no one would say that all these portraits resemble the person merely by chance.

    Q. Did the patriarchs and ancient Jews know, in general, the sense of the promises, figures, and prophe cies of the Redeemer ?

    A. The patriarchs and ancient Jews knew, in general, the sense of the promises, figures, and prophecies of the Redeemer : the better instructed among them had a clear knowledge of it, the rest had what was necessary for their salvation.

    The Catechism of Perseverance by The Abbe Gaume – ONLINE PDF

  199. @ploni almoni

    https://archive.org/details/catechismperserv00gaumuoft/page/n4

    No, I would say your claims are blasphemous and unless you repent you will have all of eternity to trade quips with Satan in the fires of hell

    • Replies: @Anon
  200. ” Jesus is not a historical figure, the events of Jesus’ life were based on a Roman military campaign, his supposed second coming refers to a historical event that already occurred, the teachings of Christ came from the ancient pagan mystery schools, and the Gospels were written by a family of Caesars and their supporters, who left us documents to prove it.”

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  201. Seraphim says:
    @Tsigantes

    @Meanwhile Eastern Christianity uses only the New Testament, the book of Christian faith

    Is that just simply stupid ignorance of ‘Eastern Christianity’ or simply a brazen lie?

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  202. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It’s better to throw out the punch that has a turd in it, because the essence remains, no matter how many chunks you scoop out.

    “Salvation is from the Jews.”

    Time to start with a new punchbowl. First, give up the Jew. If you desire salvation (whatever that is), then write it this way:

    “Salvation is from the White Man.”

    Besides, the White Man’s miracles are way better than the fantastical Jewish storytelling in the Gospels. In all ways, healing people, feeding people, moving mountains, the White Man is superior. And walking on the moon puts walking on water to shame.

    Myself, I’m tired of saving everybody. I’m ready to abandon salvation along with the Jews who claim to provide it.

    • Replies: @anon
  203. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Fires of Hell? LOL! Some Jewish storyteller told you that? The underworld realm ruled by Loki’s daughter Hell is a happy hunting ground for white men. It’s beer, babes, and bratwurst for all comers.

    The dead in Hel spend their time doing the same kinds of things that Viking Age men and women did: eating, drinking, fighting, sleeping, and so forth.

    Norse Mythology for Smart People: Hel
    https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/helheim/

    De-Kike your brimstoned brain, Jew-worshiper. If you mention Hell, do it with reverence toward your ancestors—not Jewish story-tellers—who invented the mythical underworld.

  204. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    It is very easy to remove the Jewishness, sure! By hacking out the whole Old Testament and over half the Jew Testament. You’d be left with only a few meaningless scraps.

    How many times do the writers of the New Testament quote the Old Testament? An index in the Jewish New Testament catalogs 695 separate quotations from the books of the Old Testament in the New (Jewish New Testament Publications, Jerusalem, 1989). There are many other passages where the Old Testament is referred to , as in cases where an Old Testament figure is mentioned, but no specific scripture is quoted. Depending on which scholar’s work you examine, the number of quotations and references in the New Testament to the Old may be as high as 4,105.

    The Expositor’s Bible Commentary
    Zondervan, Grand Rapids, 1979, Vol. I, p. 617

    4,105 times! (And there are only 7,959 verses in the Jew Testament.) So actually, instead of being “very easy,” it’s impossible to De-Jew Christianity. It will always be Judeo-Christianity.

    “THE JEW FIRST!” (Romans 1:16)

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  205. @Anon

    One could go with you and your faith in fake Gods, Or, …..

    http://www.newadvent.org/summa/5097.htm

    • Replies: @Anon
  206. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    My faith in fake Gods? You are the one who mentioned the Nordic mythological underworld of Hell, not me! I just told you the origin of the myth, and exposed the FAKE NEWS about Hell being full of the monsters under your bed that the Jewish storytellers added onto the European myth. So you’ve got to ask yourself one question, nitwit: How did Loki’s daughter Hell get into your Bible, anyway?

    And you could also ask yourself why Jewsus was listening to voices from Uranus, the husband of Gaia, while your at it.

    • “And lo a voice from Uranus, saying…” ~Matthew 3:17

    P.S. If you truly believe in the Buy-bull, you must believe in the Greek mythological underworld into which Uranus and Gaia’s children, the Titans—Kronos, Iapetus, Hyperion, Oceanus, Coeus, Creus, Theia, Rhea, Mnemosyne, Phoebe, Tethys, and Themis—were cast, the mythological underworld prison Tartarus. That mythology is right in there!

    • “For if God [i.e., Uranus] spared not the angels [i.e. Titans] that sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.” ~2 Peter 2:4

    P.P.S. Say “fake Gods” again. 🙂

  207. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You are wrong . How are you wrong? Because you don’t want to learn form the attempts of early Christians to stand up and tell the Jews that new Christians are the real Jews. This people seek salvation from real Jews and identify them as shown by Christ how to identify them .
    From this lesson , a secular would be able to learn how to identify the issues,conflicts,crimes,ethnocentrism , borders, citizenship, democratic values , pre emotive wars, sanctions, occupation and expulsion .financial irregularities . These are intimately mixed and strewn with Jewish hocus focus hoodwinking, jewsplaining, jew entitlement and social offer . All those Jews things have to be separated and removed . They would be treated same way just the way the rest are but the treatment would that not never their decision ,their calculation or machination.

    • Replies: @Anon
  208. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Christianity as understood by the Christians until post Luther moment splintered it along Judaic lines was based on Bible teaching of disciples and the Church traditions .

    • Replies: @Anon
  209. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    New Christians are the real Jews? Who in the hell would ever desire to identify as a Jew, either a credentialed Real® Jew, or any other kind of Jew? What is it that Jews offer that the White Man can’t provide for himself?

    Like I said, Jew-worshipers like you are as pathetic as Elizabeth Warren identifying as an Injun or some Transvestite cross-dressing and identifying as a woman. “Be ye Trannyformed.” (Rom. 12:2) NOT ME!

    • Replies: @anon
  210. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    As if Catholics aren’t themselves craven Jew-worshipers. Have you never read the Catechism?

    To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

    Catechism of the Catholic Church
    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

    And if you can’t read, just ask the Pope.

    Pope Francis told an interviewer that “inside every Christian is a Jew.”

    Pope Francis: ‘Inside every Christian is a Jew’
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-inside-every-christian-is-a-jew/2014/06/13/775750fc-f324-11e3-8d66-029598e98add_story.html

  211. Art says:
    @anon

    You can’t remove the Jewishness from Christianity

    Nonsense – the practical Christian philosophy found in the New Testament is the opposite of the Jew philosophy found in the OT. Jesus kicked the OT mean Jew god to the gutter, where it belongs. Jesus gave us a new concept of god – God 2.0 – a universal to all, a hopeful, kind, merciful and forgiving God.

    Right now, the Jew and Christian concepts of god are doing battle – will old world meanness and lies win or will new world goodness and truth win.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  212. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: opposite of the Jew philosophy found in the OT
    • Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.

    Rabbi Jewsus says you’re thinking wrong, Art. Please make a note of it.

    • Replies: @Art
  213. Art says:

    “What’s a neocon?” clueless George W. Bush once asked his father in 2003. “Do you want names, or a description?” answered Bush 41. “Description.” “Well,” said 41, “I’ll give it to you in one word: Israel.”

    This is hard to believe – was Bush 43 that naive – was he that uninformed? He went to Harvard and Yale. Did he have any grasp of world history beyond pedestrian high school textbook concepts?

    Is the Jew invisible elephant straddling US culture that controlling?

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  214. Anon[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: Think Peace

    • Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Mt. 10:34) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division. (Lk. 12:51)

    Welp… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • Replies: @Art
  215. Art says:
    @Anon

    Rabbi Jewsus says you’re thinking wrong, Art.

    Jesus’ philosophy has steadily improved the lot of mankind for the last 2,000 years.

    After killing Jesus, the Jews for 2,000 years, have been in the dumper.

    Jews are now on the raise – but look at Israel – the apartheid Jew state. (The inferior Jews have never learned to not kill.)

    Hmm?

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  216. Art says:
    @Anon

    Attention Attention: US presidential candidate calls leader of Israel – Racist!

    Beto O’Rourke calls Israeli PM Netanyahu a “racist”

    How sweet is that?

    Think Peace — Do NO Harm — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  217. Anon[831] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    If you deem selling out your own blood and soil for Jewish bribery as “steadily improved the lot of mankind,” you’ve got Rabbi Jewsus’ philosophy nailed.

    • Matthew 19:29 “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold…”

    $$$ Cha-Ching! $$$ It is all about the Benjamins! Problem is boy, you’ve been snookered; the Rabbi you worship ain’t paying out until after you’re dead!

    I bet he promised you a fantastical afterlife too, amirite? LOL

    • Replies: @Art
  218. Anon[831] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Rabbi Jewsus and Netanyahu are like twin brothers: they make foreigners their bitch and make them beg for mere crumbs from the Rabbis’ table that is set “ONLY” for the Jews.

    • Matthew 15:21-28 “Even the bitches eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

    Sad, this stereotypical Jewish behavior, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Art
  219. Moi says:
    @Colin Wright

    Israel is the religion of the Jews just as America is the religion of Americans.

  220. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    It seems you have missed the message from anon . He is trying to say that anything gentiles do,celebrate,observe or ,believe need to be scrupulosity protected from the Jew .
    That is the essence I am getting . I see where he is coming from . The history of Jew is history of duplicity . It is intellectual parasitism .

    • Replies: @Anon
  221. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I agree, the Gentiles need to protect themselves from the Jews, including protection from the influence of Rabbi Jewsus, who openly stated his contempt for Gentiles in Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, and Luke 22:25.

    I don’t think anything illustrates the parasitic nature of the Jewsus character better than his demanding that everything in the universe bow to him. What a narcissist! Couldn’t the Jew just settle for one galaxy? LOL “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.” (Philippians 2:10)

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Art
  222. Art says:
    @Anon

    Attention Attention: Fast talking Jewish boy Ben — getting his comeuppance by Westerner from the Christian tradition.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=155&v=2pakSeKbymo
    Poor little Ben has a mind like a tape recorder – he spouts what his elders told him when he was five – he is so clever. What a memory.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  223. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    listen to Koran and avoid them . The moorish Spain should have not neglected that part of Koran

    Koran also tells you can’t trust the Jews .

    There is a reason Muslim’s prophet forbade them from cities .

  224. @Anon

    Removing the Old Testament from the New? If you can think straight, you don’t have to do that. When the New Testament refers to the Old, it is to neutralize and to change its meaning. Now if you hate Christianity, that is a different matter. That is the Wolf telling the lamb that he is going to eat him because the lamb’s brother insulted him. Ataturk tried to remove Arabic from Turkish. If you were to remove French from English you would have to change 60% of the vocabulary. You would have to be insane.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Seraphim
  225. Art says:
    @Anon

    Attention Attention: America may have a new Prime Minister – Netanyahu could lose to Gantz.

    Our new PM’s name is Benny – Benny’s claim to fame is that he killed 1,400 Gaza Palestinians. A real Jew man!

    Trump is making plans to fly out tonight to be the first world leader to meet the new boss.

    Art

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Anon
  226. @EliteCommInc.

    The secret is that a Jew has no idea what he is. You think you are descended from Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham? You have no idea what you are and you are trapped in a hall of mirrors. Utter subjectivity.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  227. @mcohen

    I can see people who are saved. If you can’t it means you are damned.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @mcohen
  228. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    “For Ben-Gurion, writes Kurzman, the rebirth of Israel in 1948 “paralleled the Exodus from Egypt, the conquest of the land by Joshua, the Maccabean revolt.” Ben-Gurion himself emphasized: “There can be no worthwhile political or military education about Israel without profound knowledge of the Bible.”[39] Ten days after declaring Israel’s independence, he wrote in his diary : “We will break Transjordan [Jordan], bomb Amman and destroy its army, and then Syria falls, and if Egypt will still continue to fight—we will bombard Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo.” Then he adds: “This will be in revenge for what they (the Egyptians, the Aramis and Assyrians) did to our forefathers during biblical times.”[40] ”

    what kind of blind animal can roam free ? what kind of world does allow this kind of animal roam free?

  229. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    • ploni: “When the New Testament refers to the Old, it is to neutralize and to change its meaning.”
    • Jewsus: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets.”

    Looks like you’re trying to neutralize and to change Rabbi Jewsus’ stated position. Which is noble, so I applaud you.

  230. Art says:
    @Anon

    Christianity is both a religion and a philosophy for living – No question Jesus was a Jew and that he thought of himself as a religious leader. But it is his philosophy for living that has made an unquestioned difference to humanity. Jesus’ philosophy for living is unmatched in producing a better life for its adherents. The success of Western culture is the proof.

    The Christian philosophy says to be idealistic in our everyday actions. It says to live with hope, treat life as sacred, love your neighbor as you love yourself, seek the truth, forgive the past, and extend grace to all.

    Clearly the further we get away from Christianity – lower our culture goes.

    Many gentiles have bought into the Jew trashing of our idealistic Christian culture – Humanity is suffering the outcome.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Anon
  231. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    If you’re going to believe in a silly salvation cult, can you not choose one with a savior who isn’t some damned Jewish Rabbi like Jewsus?

    They perform their ritual, and persuade not only individuals, but whole cities, that expiations and atonements for sin may be made by sacrifices and amusements which fill a vacant hour, and are equally at the service of the living and the dead; the latter sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us from the pains of hell, but if we neglect them no one knows what awaits us.

    Plato (4th century BCE) The Republic, Book II.
    classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html

    Plato recorded Homer who mocked every single point of Christian soteriology—800 years before the magic Rabbi was a twinkle in Paul’s eye. But that’s all Christianity is, the combination of (1) a Greco-Pagan salvation cult beliefs that have been (2) all Jewed-up by Hellenized Jewish storytellers.

    Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth
    http://pocm.info/

  232. Seraphim says:
    @ploni almoni

    You waste your time and energy if you let yourself sucked in arguments with the troll Echo of History who hides under the Anon (n+1). He is obviously the obnoxious child who seeks attention by disrupting the conversation of the adults. In the pre-PC times he would have been locked in another room after a smack on the bottom.

    • Replies: @Anon
  233. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Clearly, the further we get away from Christianity, i.e. Jewish Bolshevism, the better off we are.

    [Jesus] rejects everything that exists without offering anything to replace it. He arrives at dissolving all existing social ties…. The motive force behind the purity and power of this complete negation is ecstatic inspiration and enthusiastic hope of a new world. Hence his passionate attack upon everything that exists. Everything may be destroyed because God in His omnipotence will rebuild the future order…. The clearest modern parallel to the attitude of complete negation of primitive Christianity is Bolshevism. The Bolshevists, too, wish to destroy everything that exists because they regard it as hopelessly bad.

    Ludwig von Mises
    Socialism, p. 413

    Acts 4:32 Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.”

    And don’t forget that Karl Marx’s famous Maxim is the combination of two near word-for-word passages from the Jew Testament.

    • Replies: @Art
  234. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Dual citizens are disloyal to America, and every Christian is a Dual Citizen with a primary loyalty to the Jews.

    • “But our Citizenship is in Jewheaven.” -Philippians 3:20 (Jewheaven being the foreign capital “Jerusalem,” Rev. 21:2)

    • “So now you GullibleGoyim are no longer strangers and foreigners; you are Citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jewpeople.” -Ephesians 2:19

    • Replies: @anon
  235. Seraphim says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    What’s frightening nowadays is to see so many madmen roaming freely in the streets and online. And so many swallowing with delight their insane BS. One would be better off just gulping a Johnny Walker (straight).

    • Replies: @Anon
  236. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Seraphim psychologically projects again: He is obviously the obnoxious child who seeks attention by disrupting the conversation of the adults. Tell us more about yourself, since you’re unable to rationally address any issues at hand.

  237. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Speaking of insane madmen

    …how ’bout dat crazy Jewish Rabbi?

  238. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You characterize Jews as “fast-talking,” which is just how Jesus was too, since he was a Jewish Rabbi.

    • If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. (John 5:31)
    • If I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid. (John 8:14)

    So which way is it, Art? And why do you worship this fast-talking Jewish boy, anyway? The Jewish boy you worship can’t keep his story straight, and I bet you do some fast talking yourself to weasel out of addressing that!

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Art
  239. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Such nonsense that christians are jew worshipers? Never read the Catechism or Jew Testament?

    • Catechism: “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

    • Jew Testament: “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”

    Or do you mean to say the Catechism and the Jew Testament are nonsense? You’re onto something there!

  240. mcohen says:
    @ploni almoni

    Poloni

    I was saved by God on dark summers night along a highway.
    I stopped on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and while standing there taking a piss i saw there were little white pieces of paper lying scattered in the grass.
    I bent down afterwards and picked up a single piece of paper and took it to the light of the car.It was a from a bible thrown out of a window of a passing car.
    A page from the book of Job verse 20

    Imagine the chances of that happening on a 200 km long double lane freeway at 11pm on a sunday night.In that exact place randomly chosen.

    Zophar

    1 Then Zophar the Naamathite replied:

    2 “My troubled thoughts prompt me to answer because I am greatly disturbed.

    3 I hear a rebuke that dishonors me, and my understanding inspires me to reply. 

    4 “Surely you know how it has been from of old, ever since mankind was placed on the earth, 

    5 that the mirth of the wicked is brief, the joy of the godless lasts but a moment.

    • Replies: @Anon
  241. Art says:
    @Anon

    [Jesus] rejects everything that exists without offering anything to replace it. He arrives at dissolving all existing social ties… Ludwig von Mises

    Clearly Mises does not understand the last 500 years of Western of human progress. The West is the seat of private property and private corporate organization were wealth is shared. It did not happen in a day – but it did happen.

    Christianity is the golden mean between the extremes of Jew money capitalism and Jew commie organization.

    I have lost respect for Mises.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  242. ” Catechism: “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

    Here’s the verse in full,

    “They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.”

    The worship by them — not of them or to them.

    “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”

    In a discussion with the woman at a well, Christ is talking about Jewish belief and practices among Jews. It has no relevance for worshiping Jews or Israel. We have been down this long road before and at the end of it your scriptural references ended with Paul making it clear anyone who advocated the content you suggest was engaged in evil. I think it was about that time you got yourself twisted in knots and invited the rather tawdry attempt to shift the focus on something I had never said.

    I leave it where you ran away previously. According to the author whose scripture you advocated confirmed your incorrect assessment, nit only did he make it clear that as a Jew among Jews he gave all f that away to follow Christ. He goes one step further and says anyone who makes a claim that a believer in Christ must adhere to jewish practices in order to be a christian is advancing “evil”.

    Again, I am unclear what beefs you have with Christ or christians, but he is more than willing to wrestle the matter through with you. Honking at christians, hasn’t helped you or others embracing your line of thought. He is totally open to all that you are as you are. In Christ according to the Apostles, there is neither, jew nor gentile, greek, etc . . . it is something to coin a phrase from the Monty Python,

    ” . . . something completely different.”

    Or do you mean to say the Catechism and the Jew Testament are nonsense? You’re onto something there!

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Anon
  243. anon[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The inquisition was carried out by the Christians against the Jews for being crypto ,for being parasite ,for being nepotistic and profiteer . Chrustian did it despite being in the know of the Jew friendly quotes in bible .

    Chrstian can uproot that evil again . Non Christian just need to know the behaviors of the crypto .

    • Replies: @Anon
  244. @EliteCommInc.

    “Or do you mean to say the Catechism and the Jew Testament are nonsense? You’re onto something there!”

    According the Apostle Paul, a “jew among jews” he calls what you are advocating —

    not only nonsense, but “evil”

    • Replies: @Anon
  245. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: The West is the seat of private property
    • Acts 4:32: “Not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.”

    Thanks for confirming that clearly The West is successful in the proportion that it ignore Bolshie-Biblical Christianity.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
  246. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Once again, you lie, which is your usual habit. Right here is what I quoted from the Catechism, quite correctly, word for word. When do you stop lying as a way of arguing, EliteCon?

    To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”
    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

    That’s a simple copy and paste of about 1/5 of verse #839, officially sourced at Vatican.va. Go verify it yourself, and then apologize for your falsely correcting me, if you have the slightest bit of honesty in you.

    Of course, you lie and obfuscate to weasel out of the fact that you are indeed a Jew-worshiper. And if you’re stupid enough say that “I am unclear what beefs” folks have about Jews, then look at the title of the article under which you comment. Can you even read, nitwit?

  247. Art says:
    @Anon

    Those people back then talked funny – I don’t think we quite get everything they are saying.

    Somewhere there is a line about “separating the wheat from the chaff” – I suspect we are being fed a lot of chaff by you.

    I have more love for Jesus then worship.

    Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  248. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Who cares—except for a craven Jew-worshiper like yourself—what a Jew among Jews thinks of a White Man?

  249. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Ah, you finally admit “the Jew friendly quotes in bible.” What else would you expect of a compilation written about a magical Jew by Jewish storytellers, including a whole book called Hebrews. And that’s just the Jew Testament. The majority of the Bible is written originally in Hebrew, the Jewish language.

    Every Christian can be considered a Crypto-Jew, by definition, according to Philippians 3:3 “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Also, all Catholics are Crypto-Jews, Pope says so! “Inside every Christian is a Jew.”

    • Replies: @anon
  250. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: “I have more love for Jesus then worship.”
    • John 4:23-24: “True worshipers will worship…His worshipers must worship.”

    There you have it in stark contrast, Art’s new-age clichés for bubbleheads in yoga pants vs. the Bible. What was that you said about feeding folks chaff? Frankly, I’m starting to think you’ve never cracked open a Bible and actually read the thing. I find it hilarious how you’re trying to weasel out of the Jew-worship that one finds in the Bible.

  251. Svigor says:
    @Hibernian

    I dunno about that, but yeah, Prots are sticklers for Scriptural bases.

  252. Svigor says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I believe the only way to go is to attack Jewishness, not the Jews.

    I see the merit in that. I think trying to persuade Jews is a waste of time (and that’s what I see as the point of attacking Jewishness but not Jews), so it’s not for me, but I wish you luck. I’m a firm believer in using varied modes of attack.

    • Replies: @renfro
  253. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    Saved? Saved from what? What does the White man need a Jew to save him from, anyway, that the White Man couldn’t save himself? I’ve saved myself from a brush fire. I’ve saved a hay barn from a fire. Never needed a magic Jew to do what a White man can do for himself. I don’t want saved from Hell, since it’s beer, brats, and babes for all blonde-haired and blue-eyed handsome fellers. Sure, the Jewish storytellers say different, but who in Hell believes an envious Jewish storyteller’s scribbles?

  254. This is fascinating. Absolutely the best article I have read in a decade. Insightful, well researched, and amazingly well written.

    They know this information is gaining ground, and that’s why they are pushing Noahide Laws upon poor people, like in the Philippines. That way they can just kill (legally) anyone that opposes Yahweh.

  255. The Catechism is not scripture. It contains scripture but as anyone, especially you knows, I use scripture devoid of any particular denominational view.

    And I referenced the scripture, well that passage as it is written. And nothing about it calls christians to worship Jews or Israel and and as clearly indicated by the mountains of scriptural references previously on the issue b y an author chosen by you —

    The Apostle never call christians to do and in fact goes to great lengths to reject the your claims and he does so in full. And even the Catholic Church, for whom the Catechisms are written would tell you your claims are misunderstood and in no uncertain terms — label them false. It simply is a backward tack to use references by people, organizations who upon hearing your rendering of their meaning as completely incorrect.

    • Replies: @Anon
  256. For those who think they need to challenge the support for coming from christians or a christian ethos. There are plenty of legitimate issues that could be considered without attempting twist scripture into something unrecognizable in its proper context.

    • Replies: @Anon
  257. Here’s what I said,

    “Again, I am unclear what beefs you have with Christ or christians, but he is more than willing to wrestle the matter through with you. Honking at christians, hasn’t helped you or others embracing your line of thought. He is totally open to all that you are as you are. In Christ according to the Apostles, there is neither, jew nor gentile, greek, etc . . . it is something to coin a phrase from the Monty Python

    ” . . . something completely different.””

    I am unclear why you would habitually make reference to terms I did not say. I did not say jews as my comments clearly indicate. And again, Paul and the other Apostles reject your claims and Paul does so literally condemning your advocacy as “evil”. You chose the passages and you chose the author — and they and he state – you are wrong. Just as wrong as your referencing something I did not say — a common practice of straw man contending.

  258. “Who cares—except for a craven Jew-worshiper like yourself—what a Jew among Jews thinks of a White Man?”

    Laughing. Apparently you do,

    you chose scripture written by him. And those scriptures in context once one reads the preceding and subsequent verses make it quite clear that to become a christian does not make one a jew nor is a christian obligated to worship Jews or Israel.

    And that anyone who makes such claims is engaged in evil practice.

    And I am not sure it matters, but I think the jews we are talking about in our time are largely whites.

    • Replies: @Anon
  259. Seraphim says:
    @Svigor

    Sviatoslav would have done better to listen to his mother who became a Christian because the Russians said (to Vladimir): ‘if the Greek religion had been bad, your granny Olga, who was the wisest of women, wouldn’t have adopted it. So she must have known something about hell in Christian Scripture. To wit:

    “And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell (ᾅδῃ/ад) he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead” (Luke 16: 20-31).

    But her son said ‘I prefer Valhalla where the heroes dead in battle enjoy an endless supply of fine food and drink (mead) and are served by the beautiful Valkyries (something like the 70 virgins of the Muslim paradise)’. And he died in battle but all we know about his postmortem fate is that his slayer, the Petcheneg Prince Kuria, cut his head and from the skull made a cup (gilded) from which he drunk at his earthly feasts. .

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Svigor
  260. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The Catechism is not scripture, of course. Nobody has said that except you just now, you raving dumbass. But you’re trying to desperately weasel out of the fact that you’re a Jew-worshiper, which is proven by simple deductive logic, as follows:

    First Premise: Jesus is a Jew.
    Second Premise: You worship Jesus.
    Conclusion: Therefore, you are a Jew-worshiper.

    Such a conclusion is supported by both catechism and scripture, as I already quoted, much to your consternation, Jew-worshiper.

    • Replies: @Art
  261. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Every time somebody exposes the inanities of the Jew-worshiper’s Jewbook, another true-believing moron like you comes along and falsely claims it has been “taken out of context.” That is a lie, nothing has been taken out of context. But your lie about context is so ubiquitous among desperate Jew-worshipers that it has become an internet joke on youtube, entitled here “CONTEXT!!!!!!” LOL! Enjoy, just like 769,152 other folks have. And maybe try to learn something, because nobody takes your lies seriously anymore.

    • Replies: @homahr
  262. Vojkan says:
    @mcohen

    “Any carnivorous animal”, really? I didn’t know fish or poultry were vegan.

  263. Vojkan says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Well, I guess you’re worse off than me. Pointing out the inconsistencies in the discourse of some prominent Israel enamored peasantry loathing urban Jewish “intellectuals” only cost me post-graduate studies.

  264. I think we have been here before. Context is the process of understanding what something means in light of how a construct is situated to the subject and related material. That means one reads the relevant material to said construct. In this instance, what is being discussed is that Jews are entitled to all things Christ, if they so choose, including the right to worship. No scripture by the Apostles advocates worshiping jews or Israel or having to abide by jewish traditions or prescriptions — the specifics of how certain foods are to be prepared. The law is no longer to the domain of the flesh, but of the spirit — that is the purpose of Christ, who in flesh was certainly Jewish, but the christian is not worshiping the flesh — but allowing the flesh, pressing the flesh to conform the very nature of God which is spiritual.

    Laughing, you chose the author and you chose the scriptures and upon reading the material in full whether as you claim it’s the same in the Catechism as in scripture, then your argument is rejected by the author. You are using evidence that contradicts your claim. You are referring to authorities that reject your claim. Your premises are not the premises of christian faith and practice.

    Not only have we discussed the relevant scriptures you attempt to ignore, we have in direct testimony by the author that what you are saying is incorrect. There’s nothing ubiquitous when the author of the text and the ideas you claim, expressly says, such arguments are “evil.” And he further states in more than one way, he gave up being a jew to follow christ. That’s the text and the context stated with equivocation.

    _________________________________

    They are of course relevant arguments against context responses. But as has been demonstrated in detail, yours is not one of them. I understand that it is hard to face that your source calls what you contend as evil. But that’s what he says. An friend of mine used the term “logical conundrum” and I think you have created and inescapable logical conundrum that you will eventually have to reconcile.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Anon
  265. anon[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Not interested in Bible beyond it’s being a religious book just like Gita or Buddhanama
    Not interested in Christinuaty anymore than I am interested in witchcraft.
    I leave both alone .

    One thing I don’t want to happen is either of them get inserted with the Zionism . Guarding against the contamination is a human priority .

    Zionist will try to sabotage that attempt by talking about similarities and common origin from paganism , sharing of Pagan belief , and with Christianity , they would talk about Bible Jesus or western values or fighting Islamic terror – whatever suits the Zionist at a given time .

    But this should be exposed as attempt to destroy both the paganism of Hindu and ideals of Christianity . 911 has proved this .

  266. Only in this universe does disagreement constitute a lie. However, as always, if you can site a single lie or attempt to deceive, mislead from any comment you are welcome to give it a whirl. You might find some grammatical error or technical writing mistake — but that is not lying.

    Laughing.

    Though I can certainly understand why you want it so.

    • Replies: @Anon
  267. @EliteCommInc.

    correction: he gave up being a jew to follow christ. That’s the text and the context stated without equivocation.

    • Replies: @Anon
  268. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: to become a christian does not make one a jew
    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.”

    If not a Jew, then what are you? Crypto-Jew? Pathetic Wannabee-Jew? Genital Mutilator Hopeful? Foreskin Fetish Faithful? 1/1024 Jew? You’d be better off being lily-white Elizabeth Warren and identifying as an Injun. LOL

  269. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You didn’t merely disagree, you lied. Does it sting being called a liar? Then don’t lie again, you cackling nitwit.

  270. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I took nothing “out of context.” You lied, and it a typical Christian lie to mewl “out of context” when the idiocy and horrors of their Buy-bull are exposed. Stop lying and trying to cover up your lying with a boring wall of text. And we have in direct testimony by the author that what I’m saying is absolutely correct.I’m quoting him directly, you moronic nitwit.

  271. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    So you laud Jews tales from the Jew Testament. Not surprising, given that you’re a hater of Whites.

    The irony is that the ‘white’ people ar [sic] actually blacks discolored. It is a genetical defect which affects their brain too, whence their limited capacity of comprehension of the world surrounding them.

    Seraphim
    October 23, 2018 at 7:10 pm GMT

    Now we know why you cling to the Jew’s tales, you’re united in your anti-White hatred. Thanks for providing evidence to the purpose of the Jew tales about hell you laud.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  272. Che Guava says:
    @Brabantian

    You make a very good point.

    The Greek version of the O.T. predates the Hebrew by several centuries.

    So, the orginal was assembled by Greek writers, who found the tales interesting, and Hellenised Jews.

    Philo, although later than the Greek O.T., but pre-dating its Hebrew version, is an interesting example of a Hellenised Jew.

    I do not think jhat he was among the greats of neo-Platonism (the true foundation of Christianity), but was certainly a neo-Platonist.

    Met a lapsed seminarian some years ago, he had many interesting ideas, one was that Solomon never existed, and was just a Judaicised form of Solon. There is, of course, no evidence of the existence of Solomon.

    Another was that the rapid growth of Christian communities was due to mass-conversions of Epicurean communities.

    He had several other very interesting ideas, and good arguments for them, but I cannot recall all of the details. Should have kept in touch.

    • Replies: @Anon
  273. Anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    Good point. That Christianity twisted Epicurean philosophy with Jewish storytelling by Hellenized Jews is well documented by Norman Dewitt in his text St. Paul and Epicurus (University of Minnesota Press, 1954.) Jews always subvert.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  274. j2 says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    “Compare the terms of the covenant Yahweh offered to his people, “If you faithfully obey the voice of Yahweh your God […], Yahweh your God will raise you higher than every other nation in the world” (Deuteronomy 28:1), with the terms of the deal offered to Jesus, when “the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. And he said to him, ‘I will give you all these, if you fall at my feet and do me homage’” (Matthew 4:8-10).”

    Brilliant observation. There has to be a reason for this text in Matthew and your proposal fits very well. It would make Jewish Christians Gnostics, of which there is some suggestive evidence. By the way, a very good article.

  275. Che Guava says:
    @Anon

    Thank you.

    It is refreshing to see an informative post from an anon poster, lately, I am marking most ‘Ignore’. You realiy should use a u-name, unless saying something that may endanger you.

  276. renfro says:
    @Svigor

    What is Jewishness without Jews?

  277. Che Guava says:

    Wow, I amazed by the flood of attacks on Elite Comminc.

    I have no idea what made it, but recommend to set ignore for any posters as anon have an id (by definition). Sure, I have, once or twice used Anon to post. It had a reason.

    I recommend that commentors hit ‘ignore’ for almost all ‘anon’ posters here.

    Use a little logic. One must make an accnunt to post on this site.

    The anons are all signed-up, unz.com treats Anons as array variables, so the only correlathon that is not transparent is u-nane and array element number. That is fine. It seems, though, that the recent situation is for a certain (mainly zionist a few western leftists) type of moron to make a u-name and then exclusively post as ‘Anon’ or similar, but never anythying under their registered u-name.

    I encourage everybody on this site to hit the ‘ignore buton for any anon who is posting as anon for no reason.

    • Replies: @Anon
  278. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    What about the flood of lies from EliteCon on Anon, hmm? Anon took nothing “out of context,” and saying so is an accusation of dishonesty, so you or he shouldn’t be too surprised to see the accusation of dishonesty bounced right back in his face. So stop with the ad hom and SJW brigade tactics, and address issues. If you can.

    P.S. I’m the same Anon that recommended DeWitt’s book in comment #281. You’re welcome.

  279. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: he gave up being a jew to follow christ
    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.”

    Go on, mewl how “out of context” that is. What you mean by “out of context” is that the bare scripture hasn’t been massaged into meaning the opposite by some smooth talking theologian trying to explain away the plain meaning of the words.

  280. ” . . . to become a christian does not make one a jew
    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.”

    If not a Jew, then what are you? Crypto-Jew? Pathetic Wannabee-Jew? Genital Mutilator Hopeful? Foreskin Fetish Faithful? 1/1024 Jew?”

    1. the practice of circumcision is not strictly jewish

    2. What Paul is talking about is the the old self is stripped away. The old covenant is removed and now one enters something anew or becomes someone anew – not like the old. In other words, being a jew has been cut away.

    The us of metaphor to acknowledge that by coming to Christ, the old law and practices, its weight is also removed.

    As for skin color, scripture makes no acknowledgement that it has any unique value. If being a jew is now disregarded for the crhristian, skin color, has even less, if that were possible.

    • Replies: @Anon
  281. Art says:
    @Anon

    You characterize Jews as “fast-talking,” which is just how Jesus was too, since he was a Jewish Rabbi.

    “Jewish rabbi” — You throw words around – like they were true.

    In no way was Jesus a Jew rabbi – rabbis pump out the Talmud – Jesus gave us the Sermon on the Mount.

    Read the Sermon on the Mount and tell us that is a Jew rabbi talking. Jew rabbis had Jesus killed for those words.

    Are you a Jew rabbi – or a loud-mouthed pseudo intellectual with no respect for words or truth?

    God or man – historical Jesus is the most important person ever to live – he has impacted more humans than any other human being. All 7,000,000,000 people on this planet want the benefits of Jesus’ Western culture. It takes humility to understand that. Your disrespect is damming.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  282. ” . . . to become a christian does not make one a jew
    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.”

    “I took nothing “out of context.” You lied, and it a typical Christian lie to mewl “out of context” when the idiocy and horrors of their Buy-bull are exposed. Stop lying and trying to cover up your lying with a boring wall of text. And we have in direct testimony by the author that what I’m saying is absolutely correct.I’m quoting him directly, you moronic nitwit.”

    [MORE]

    A cow is walking down the road. He is discussing with another cow the proper way to chew grass and why with a horse. The horse says “Ohhh I see, wow you eat grass in this way. I am going to give that a shot.”

    You come along see the horse eating grass. Hmmmm, that’s unusual. The cow told me all about it and I thought I would give it a try.”

    Your response to this exchange is, “You eat grass like a cow. You must be a cow.”

    The horse stops eating, cocks his or her head to the side a moment and then says, “No. I like eating the grass this way. It goes down smoother, more chewing don’t ya know. I am grateful to the cow for the word.”

    “Aha . . .,” as now you understand, “you are a cow and a cow worshiper.”

    The horse freezes and considers a response. “Uhhh nope. Not a cow. Not a cow worshiper.” Goes back to eating. You race down to the field locate said cow.

    “Hey did you tell the cow a different way to grass?”

    “I did” says cow. “The horse told me all about it”, says you. “And he is actually grateful.”

    “Ohh that’s nice.”

    The next day you bump into the horse. “I’ve got you now. The cow told me word for word how he told you how to eat grass.” “Uh, huh, says the horse.”

    “You eat like a horse. Your gratefulness is to the horse. The instruction is from a horse.”

    “Uh, huh.”

    “Well, that makes you a cow and a cow worshiper. And that is straight from the cows mouth word for word.”

    The cow all the who has has been listening in mild, muted bewilderment. “No. you got the words correct. But the horse eating like I showed him does not make him a cow. You have gotten the meaning incorrect. He is still a horse.” The horse and the cow walk off to a a fresh mound.

    You of course, “Liars, con animals . . . deceivers . . .”

    The horse puzzled, Pauses from the pleasantries of eating grass and asks, “Are you a mammal?”

    “Well of course.” says you.

    “Are we mammals,” says the cow.

    “Well, obviously, ” says you.

    “Well, I guess that makes you a cow and and horse. Now go chew your food. Want some tips, let us know.” You stop away in triumph, sputtering about how cows and horses conspire to deceive.

    The horse and cow turn and walk away.

    Horse, “What was that all about?”

    Cow: “I have no idea. I think it was one those hypothetical logical conundrum loopy things.”
    Horse: “What a curious fellow. A human, who thinks he’s a cow and horse. I suppose that makes us human.”

    Horse: “Really thanks, I had no idea cows ate like that.”

    Cow: “We don’t. The other cows think it’s weird. I learned it from deer that occasionally visits the field.”

    Horse: “Why not tell that guy that?”

    Cow: “You know I considered it. But there’s no point my being called deer and a deer worshiper. Besides, I think that guy’s head might exploded.”
    —————————–

    Hmmmmm . . . any name calling is irritating. But again, if you can locate a lie in this conversation or any of the previous on this matter. You are welcome to it. You were successful in one thread in raising suspicion, how I am unclear. Neither you or anyone else ever brought evidence that I was deceptive. And I was not and do not engage in this manner. You are welcome bring something to the fore and I will address it.

  283. Art says:
    @Anon

    First Premise: Jesus is a Jew.
    Second Premise: You worship Jesus.
    Conclusion: Therefore, you are a Jew-worshiper.

    Some people have the intellectual capacity to separate the biological from the intellectual.

    Clearly Jesus was not an intellectually minded Jew. His ideals were anti-Jew – he was murdered for his anti-Jew ideals – he was different intellectually – the words that came out of his mouth did not reside in the brains of Jews (they still do not).

    Biologically Jesus was a Jew – intellectually he was NOT!

    Can you rap your sarcastic mini-mind around that?

    Think peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Svigor
  284. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    ART: “Jewish rabbi” — You throw words around – like they were true.

    Are you trying to say the Bible isn’t true? LOL Dodge this…

    • “Your daughter is dead: why trouble the Rabbi (Teacher) further?” Mark 5:35
    • “Going directly to Jesus, he said, Rabbi, and kissed Him.” Mark 14:45
    • “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their Synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15
    • “They said, Rabbi (which means “Teacher”), where are you staying?” John 1:38
    • “He came to Jesus at night and said, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher.” John 3:2
    • “She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, Rabboni! (which means Teacher).” John 20:16

    You ought to read it sometime before accusing people of lightly throwing words around, nitwit. Turns out you’re the one throwing words around like they were true.

    • Replies: @Art
  285. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: “1. the practice of circumcision is not strictly jewish.”

    Are you really so desperate to weasel out of the fact that the Jew Testament was written by Jews? Do you imagine that the Jew Testament was written by….say…Muslims?

    The procedure is most common among Muslims and Jews (where it is near-universal for religious reasons)… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

    You are truly a duplicitous weasel, EliteCon.

  286. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: Biologically Jesus was a Jew – intellectually he was NOT!
    Jewsus: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets.

    You and Jewsus don’t seem to agree on much, Art.

    • Replies: @Art
  287. Those of you discussing the dates of the various versions and dates of when said scripture was written probably also know that until Moses, I think it is generally accepted that what went before was oral history.

    So while dating scripture has value. It does not by definition mean that X was not held by a the population in question. Though I guess the debate would surround the validity, and accuracy of oral history.

    • Replies: @Anon
  288. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Historical Jesus? Can you tell me when he was born?

    It is beyond reasonable dispute that Luke dates the birth of Jesus to 6 A.D. It is equally indisputable that Matthew dates the birth of Jesus to 6 B.C. (or some year before 4 B.C.). This becomes an irreconcilable contradiction after an examination of all the relevant facts…

    The Date of the Nativity in Luke (6th ed., 2011)
    Richard Carrier
    https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html

    Unfortunately, the Jewish storytellers who wrote the Gospels couldn’t keep their lies straight about the fictional character they concocted, and directly contradicted each other. At least one of the Gospel writers is flat out lying. Knowing Jews, probably both.

    • Replies: @Art
  289. “EliteCon: “1. the practice of circumcision is not strictly jewish.”

    Response: https://www.britannica.com/topic/circumcision-ritual-surgical-procedure

    “Are you really so desperate to weasel out of the fact that the Jew Testament was written by Jews? Do you imagine that the Jew Testament was written by….say…Muslims? ”

    Several years ago I read some material written by a Frenchmen. I found that material valuable and useful. I even shared its value with others. Some agreed to its value. Neither myself or they became french or worship France.

    I have several Qu’rans around here somewhere. I occasionally reed them and on rare occasion reference them. They can be of value. That does not mean I worship Muslims or am a Muslim.

    The New testament was written by followers of Christ. That would mean they were former Jews who gave judaic belief for something more. I cannot think of a single NT scriptural artifact that was nit written by a jew who became a christian. Though, I am unclear of your point.

    Now before we head off into more of your nonsensical comments. Let’s note that you have wandered far afield of the issues of the article and I am responding to your comments.
    ——————-

    I am still waiting for this supposed lie.

    • Replies: @Anon
  290. Art says:
    @Anon

    Unfortunately, the Jewish storytellers who wrote the Gospels couldn’t keep their lies straight about the fictional character they concocted, and directly contradicted each other. At least one of the Gospel writers is flat out lying. Knowing Jews, probably both.

    Words separate us from all other biological beings. Clearly intellectual words shape our lives and our planet.

    Poor you – you’ll are still stuck on biology. You disrespect history with the word “Jewsus.” It is words that separate Jesus from Jews. Jesus was murdered for his words.

    Even if the Sermon on the Mount never physically happened – even if Jesus never lived – the words transcribed to us have great meaning.

    Politics being what they are – today we have a choice – the words of the Sermon on the Mount or the 15,000 pages of words in the Talmud.

    You give succor to the latter.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  291. “Compare the terms of the covenant Yahweh offered to his people, “If you faithfully obey the voice of Yahweh your God […], Yahweh your God will raise you higher than every other nation in the world” (Deuteronomy 28:1), with the terms of the deal offered to Jesus, when “the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. And he said to him, ‘I will give you all these, if you fall at my feet and do me homage’” (Matthew 4:8-10).”

    There are several reasons why this suggestion about Christ does not work.

    1. Jesus was not recognized as any manner of official leadership. When he was in the desert he was not an earthly representative of the Jews. He was barely known at that time but regardless they rejected his leadership.

    2. The offer by Satan was not for national leadership, it was for personal power, aggrandizement – status. Satan makes no indication that Israel would be uplifted up, just Christ – they are not the same. Personal power and glory.

    3. The notion that Christ would submit himself or Israel to the worship of Satan in complete contradiction of his purpose in defiance of a God who said he would do the lifting is a very tough advance to square. Satan is not God making the offer — Satan is God’s opposition. And while it is possible that god would work via Satan, that such would result in bowing in worship is a nonstarter.

    4. The Deuteronomy verses in question could have already reflected the statue of Israel in the secular world. This refrain is a constant entreaty to Israel and there is nothing that indicates it could not not have been accomplished by subsequent rulers Saul, David, Solomon or others. And that it will yet come to pass. Christians believe that Christ is coming back and he is doing so to reign.

    5. Christ before establishing a kingdom on Earth, he had as he expressly stated repeatedly, had he accepted a bid from Satan it would have contradicted his entire schema. Which was first spiritual redemption. The Kingdom was not earthly for Christ, not initially.

    As opposed to the gymnastics here Christ’s visit to the desert was to prepare for the road ahead. The examples of the three offers is not about being Jewish. It’s to the commitment to the purpose.

    a. food is important but there are things more important
    b. that the material value of power be it by wealth or power is not with the sacrifice being adorned by the secular would
    c. that faith is sufficient unto itself and constant tests of God’s loyalty – reflects a lack of it

    All three of those would be constants throughout Christ’s walk. Trying to role them into some sort of complex jewish hoax requires more gymnastics than can be supported by the effort.

    • Replies: @Anon
  292. Art says:
    @Anon

    Art: Biologically Jesus was a Jew – intellectually he was NOT!
    Jewsus: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets.

    Clearly Jesus was a creature of his time – his reference point was Jew culture. The people he talked to were Jews. Jesus wanted to evolve his culture not destroy it. He did not want to spill blood. He was a good guy.

    The Sermon on the Mount described the evolving culture that he envisioned.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  293. Art says:
    @Anon

    You ought to read it sometime before accusing people of lightly throwing words around

    “Jewsus”

    Read the Sermon on the Mount and tell us that Jesus was a Rabbi steeped in Jewness think.

    We would have to add dishonest to fool!

    Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  294. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    What seems to be missing from this discussion is any appreciation of the fact that Christians appropriated the Jewish religion and declared themselves the newly chosen people –not a race, but the people of a Christian empire. I think the doctrine is known as supercessionism.

    The reason that Jews have prospered so well in the Western world is that they have adhered more closely to their religion than have Christians. That Jewish success is attributable to a set of beliefs not intellectual superiority is indicated by the fact that the protestants, the most fanatical Christians, have also tended to be successful economically, and indeed capitalism, it has been argued, is a direct product of protestantism. Moreover, Jews were highly successful in accumulating wealth and climbing the social ladder in Europe long before the influx into Western Europe and the New World of supposedly high-IQ Askenazi Jews.

    If the Americans and others want to beat the Jews at their own game, they’d better get back to worshiping YHWH with genuine Calvinistic zeal.

    • Replies: @Rich
  295. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I’m still waiting for you to show us how the circumcision mentioned in the New Testament isn’t in reference to the Jewish tradition of circumcision. Or will you continue to prevaricate?

  296. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You’re ineptly trying to weasel out of a blatant contradiction on dating the alleged nativity. One of the Gospels is wrong. They cannot both be right. But you prevaricate, which seems to be your specialty.

  297. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: tell us that Jesus was a Rabbi steeped in Jewness think.

    I don’t have to. Jesus will tell you.

    Jesus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”

    That’s part of the Sermon on the Mount that you’re touting. Didn’t read that part, did you?

    • Replies: @Art
  298. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: He did not want to spill blood.
    Jesus is like…

    See also:
    The Myth of a Non-Violent Jesus
    https://www.realclearreligion.org/articles/2014/04/30/the_myth_of_a_non-violent_jesus.html
    Why Is Jesus Violent In Revelation?
    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2018/03/jesus-violent-revelation/

    • Replies: @Art
  299. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    I didn’t think you could tell me which Gospel got it wrong—clearly they cannot both be correct—on the dating of the fictional character Jewsus’ nativity. So you go into your evangelical mode, and nobody even cares, because we see how you ignore reality. Seems to be your habit.

  300. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: 1. Jesus was not recognized as any manner of official leadership.
    John 1:49: Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel.”

    Glad to find out that Jewish Rabbi Jesus is only the Son of God and King of Israel unofficially.

    Apparently Jewsus’ high office is like Joshua Abraham Norton (February 4, 1818 – January 8, 1880), who was known as Emperor Norton, and who proclaimed himself “Norton I, Emperor of the United States” in 1859. He later assumed the secondary title of “Protector of Mexico”. All unofficial too. Thanks for the info, EliteComm!

  301. “I’m still waiting for you to show us how the circumcision mentioned in the New Testament isn’t in reference to the Jewish tradition of circumcision.”

    Here’s a secret . . . it’s metaphor. It is a refernce to but that does not make one Jewish. He is talking to jews, and he is saying becoming a believer in Christ is similar or even the same as one gets circumcised. Paul goes on further to say, circumcised or uncircumcised in Christ it doesn’t matter — you made anew. Paul makes it a point that gentiles do not have be circumcised to be followers of Christ. One can eat unleavened or leavened bread. The tabernacle is no longer in the Holy land, it resides in you as believers.

    That is very radically different from Jewish teaching —

    Another hint, if Paul formerly a Jewish leader of the highest order had already been circumcised as a Jew, your suggestion that he is of new circumcision literally in the form as practiced by Jews of which group he was formerly a member is going to have it done anew in order to be Jewish again — despite the fact that he literally states,

    “I count it all but loss for the sake of Christ.” His jewish order, leadership, authority, ranking, etc is shorn away as one would shorn in circumcision, to reveal something anew.

    Never mind the actual physical needless hurdle your advocacy suggests.

    • Replies: @Anon
  302. “The procedure is most common among Muslims and Jews (where it is near-universal for religious reasons)… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision”

    Pressed and answered previously, however:

    https://circinfo.net/history_and_recent_trends.html

    It is not strictly limited to Jews or Muslims nor religious belief and practice.

    But there is no question. Paul is not telling anyone to get circumcised.

    • Replies: @Anon
  303. ” Jesus was not recognized as any manner of official leadership.
    John 1:49: Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel.””

    And when you read the text, one uncovers that the declaration was made by one of Jesus’ followers, who not in any position of Judaic leadership. Those who were, the pharisees, rabbis and sadducees rejected Jesus. They had no intention of ‘benighting’ him to anything other than his downfall.

    I think, a crown of thorns for Jesus suited them just fine.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Anon
  304. @EliteCommInc.

    In other words as I noted, Jesus did not go the desert as any manner of official Jewish representative and Satan’s invitations were not about raising up israel, but Jesus himself and if had taken up the second invitation, it would have meant the rejection of his mission, judaism, christianity and God himself.

    • Replies: @Anon
  305. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Everything in the Buybull that is embarrassing or inane is swept under the ever-so-convenient “metaphor” rug. Lovely! For instance, the resurrection itself is only a metaphor. My standard is the same as yours. Tada!

  306. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You just breeze from one ad hoc excuse to the other. Typical Jew-worshiper. Unfortunately, you just proved that the words in the Bible aren’t magically inspired. Just a follower’s amateurish “unofficial” words. You’re a hoot man! Keep diggin’, pretty soon you’ll reach China.

  307. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: Paul is not telling anyone to get circumcised.
    • Acts 16:3: Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him.

    Why is it that when evangelical Jew-worshipers take along young traveling companions on trips, they gotta play with the boy’s penis, hmm?

  308. @Bardon Kaldian

    I felt it was something……missing.

    Probably because you’re obviously missing a few things.

  309. “You just breeze from one ad hoc excuse to the other. Typical Jew-worshiper. Unfortunately, you just proved that the words in the Bible aren’t magically inspired. Just a follower’s amateurish “unofficial” words. You’re a hoot man! Keep diggin’, pretty soon you’ll reach China.”

    For believers, Christ is Lord. he is certainly King of Israel. But the Israeli leadership did not so anoint him. So In any secular sense he position is unacknowledged accept by people who believed. As he himself said, his time had not yet come. Your inability to comprehend the spiritual from the secular and when the two become one is incredibly bereft. And what is funny is that you who has gone to great lengths to bad mouth the literalists of scripture has manged to cling to the literal extremes that would make any fundamentalist or evangelical but tea drinker without the tea.

    The discussion is whether Christ would be appointed as King of Israel if he accepted Satan’s offer. Certainly he would not. The offer has nothing to do with Israeli Kingship. And to state the obvious, there is no reason for Jesus to take Satan’s word for anything.

    Which reminds — you do intend to provide some evidence that I lied.

    Here’s why you are frustrated and resort to name calling. I simply address the scenarios you advance from several perspectives. And as wedded as you are to each word, ignoring the accompanying references that include a complete rejection of your contention — your only alternative is to call names, “liar” being but one of many. I have my own battles with bitterness. But if you are going to call some out for lying, it’s a good idea to scrounge up an example. It would be an error to consider my indulgence as anything other than indulgence.

    In your world every response is met with invective, as opposed to addressing the meaning. I guess it’s sufficient for those on a particular bent.

    ——————–

    I can only state that the actual date of Christ’s birth is unresolved. And commentary on the matter only reflects my response. It has little impact on the overall understanding of who Christ is.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  310. @Svigor

    Every time I run them down and find the context, they fall apart. You’re like a garden variety Jew – indefatigable, but otherwise bereft.

    Holy cow! You’ve brilliantly described the troll, Thorfinnsson, and a few others! Amazing! I hope you don’t mind if I ‘borrow your quote.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  311. @mcohen

    The bearded man did holler.

    Are you referring to the blockheads or the dudes with little circular dust cloths on their heads, or what?

  312. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Art says the opposite about Jesus rejecting Judaism. But I don’t want you two to start behaving like typical Jew-worshipers when it comes to their opinions about the doubleplusgood right and only one true way to be a Jew-worshiper.

    “But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong….believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.” Galatians 2:11-13

    Luckily Jew-worshipers saved the The Thirty Years’ War over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or something equally as important, until later, when they could slaughter themselves with modern weapons, and kill 30% of Germany’s population for Jewsus, which probably made the Jewish Rabbi rub his hands together in glee. For the side that was truly on Jewsus’ side, of course.

  313. Here’s an example of the fallacy you are attempting to indicate. You are correct that Timothy was circumcised. And if it was for the purpose of being a christian, your contend would have meaning. However, Timothy is getting circumcised not to be a christian. But so that when addressing the Jews they could find no complaint.

    Your argument that the cause of the circumcision was to be Jewish to be christian is incorrect. It is for the express purpose of anything getting in the way of the message of christ. Now christians will varying responses as to whether Paul should have adopted the posture he later expresses, It simply does not matter. But those were the early days of his walk. I live with a woman. And I have often gotten grief about what that looks like to others.

    I think they have a valid point. But I am not yet prepared to return to living in my car. So, I will have to deal people’s suspicions and what nots about our friendship. Though not as extreme as the matter with Paul, Timothy was willing to go that extra extra mile. That is a testament to Timothy’s commitment.

    As for your innuendo about some impropriety — I can only say what I stated before when we had this conversation. There is no indication that Paul had anything more than agape love for Timothy.

    • Replies: @Anon
  314. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    So now you agree “he is certainly King of Israel!”

    Hurrah! That’s exactly what I’ve been saying (actually just quoting from the Jew Testament), even just a few comments ago in #311. I figure you’d come back around to my way of thinking after an tortuously long round robin of ad hoc excuse-making.

    Which is to say, you worship some foreign Jewish potentate, Jew-worshiper.

    You are a Jew-worshiper.

  315. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The actual date of Christ’s birth is unresolved? LOL! No, numbskull, it’s resolved one way in one Gospel, and resolved in a completely contradictory way in another Gospel. Either one, or probably both, Jewish storyteller is telling tall tales, as the Jewish media is wont to do for the last 2000 years, and you’re too dishonest to admit it. Because if you admit it, you just admit that the Jew Testament is FAKE NEWS. Jewed Testament = Jewed MSNBC.

  316. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Your argument that… Full Stop. No, I didn’t argue that, whatever verbose strawman you’re desperately weaving.

    Frankly, I didn’t even make an argument. All I did was something real simple and super-fun to do with confused Jew-worshipers like yourself: juxtapose your bullshit statement with a direct quote from the Jew Testament that was the opposite of your bullshit.

    You’re barking at your own tail.

  317. The fallacy you are referring to is understood as false cause. It may be a correlation but not the cause. In contemporary times, one might refer to what Paul requested and Timothy’s commitment commited to is a form of “political correctness” for a more important goal of giving the good news.

    Nothing at to do with worshiping Jews or becoming jewish or christian.

    If I were Timothy, I would probably have said — “Have fun on your trip Paul.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  318. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I didn’t refer to any fallacy. I didn’t even make an argument. All I did was juxtapose your argument with a quote from the Jew Testament that states the opposite. I’ll repeat it, so it gets through your thick verbosity and desperate ad hoc excuse making.

    • EliteCon: Paul is not telling anyone to get circumcised.
    • Acts 16:3: Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him.

    You’re the one arguing, and you’re arguing against what the Jew Testament explicitly states. I’m simply quoting the Bible you supposedly believe in. You’re barking at your own tail, Jew-worshiper.

  319. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    You know what? I don’t believe that you are White!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Svigor
  320. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: If I were Timothy, I would probably have said — “Have fun on your trip Paul.”
    • Paul: You have only one spiritual father. For I became your father… [1 Co. 4:15]
    • Paul: So even if I boast somewhat freely about the authority the Lord gave us… [1 Co. 10:8]

    So much for Paul being your “one spiritual father” with “authority the Lord gave” him! Bon Voyage, peter puffer! ♫ Take yer Apostle and shove it, I ain’t working for Jew no more!

    You’re a True Outlaw, EliteComm! Them goddam Jews you used to worship ain’t gonna like it much, but then, who gives a shit, they’re just conniving Jews, right? Fuck ’em and the donkey Jewsus rode on. So you won’t be celebrating Jewish Passover, i.e., the Jew-worshipers’ Paschal holiday (aka Easter), what, next week is it? Enjoy the day off from Jew-worship.

  321. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Muh niggah! You don’t mind if I use the Latin term for darkie, do you?

  322. “I didn’t refer to any fallacy. I didn’t even make an argument. All I did was juxtapose your argument with a quote from the Jew Testament that states the opposite. I’ll repeat it, so it gets through your thick verbosity and desperate ad hoc excuse making.”

    Well, do have some integrity. The reason you posit the argument as you have is to make a point, to advance a position — that is referred to as argument. Your use of use of scripture has limited value without the actual meaning. I provide what the words mean as to why — well, the scripture does as well, you just choose to ignore those references in order to advance a view to impugn either the text, the belief, christians, others and me in this case. The constant baiting just requires patience. But it is very clear that your short cutting in light of or in the company of or in context to the included verses turns your interpretation on its proverbial head.

    So out of space are you that we are back to your innuendoes associating circumcision to some bizarre act of relations between men. And yet, you provide no scripture that makes that case. As I understand it.

    (using your phrasing)

    You don’t Jews
    You don’t need the jew testament
    You don’t need the bible among other references

    Yet you repeatedly lean on the same to make a case but ignore anything that deliberately and roundly rejects your understanding and does so literally. Convenient use when it unless and until, it states what you are contending is “evil”.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  323. Anne Lid says:
    @Anon

    It did not last. That very same group later got so poor that other assemblies had to send them charity, according to one of the epistles. So that model did not work out for long.

    • Replies: @Anon
  324. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    It’s you against the Jew Testament. I simply quote (not argue) the book, and you proceed to argue against it. It’s funny watching you bark at your own tail.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  325. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anne Lid

    Yeah, you’re right, Christianity didn’t work out for long. Must be why it has to be reformed for the nine-zillionth time. But when you’re involved in a religion of the Jews, by the Jews, and for the Jews, what else would you expect?

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
  326. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: (using your phrasing)
    Moi: [word search shows me using zero of those phrases]

    Where? You tell one bald-faced lie after another. No place did I use that phrasing you just attributed to me. When do you stop lying, EliteCon? Next week?

  327. Miggle says:

    Zionism, Crypto-Judaism, and the Biblical Hoax
    Laurent Guyéno

    Thanks, Laurent Guyéno. Your well-referenced article on a horrible truth, how horrible the Jews are collectively, deserves wide distribution.

    It is also exposed by Israel Shahak in his Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (PDF)

    Ron Unz has written a wonderful review of Shahak’s book here: American Pravda: Oddities of the Jewish Religion.

    Shahak’s is overall a detailing of Jewish hatred of non-Jews. He covers the lies and deceptions that are basic. But one of Shahak’s points, relevant to crypto-Judaism, is:

    In the last 150 years, the term `Jew’ has therefore acquired a dual meaning, to the great confusion of some well-meaning people, particularly in the English-speaking countries, who imagine that the
    Jews they meet socially are `representative’ of Jews `in general’. In the countries of east Europe as well as in the Arab world, the Jews were liberated from the tyranny of their own religion and of their own communities by outside forces, too late and in circumstances too unfavourable for genuine internalised social change. In most cases, and particularly in Israel, the old concept of society, the same ideology especially as directed towards nonJews and the same utterly false conception of history have been preserved. This applies even to some of those Jews who joined `progressive’ or leftist movements. An examination of radical, socialist and communist parties can provide many examples of disguised Jewish chauvinists and racists, who joined these parties merely for reasons of `Jewish interest’ and are, in Israel, in favour of `anti-Gentile’ discrimination. One need only check how many Jewish `socialists’ have managed to write about the kibbutz without taking the trouble to mention that it is a racist institution from which non-Jewish citizens of Israel are rigorously excluded, to see that the phenomenon we are alluding to is by no means uncommon. [p.21]

    Jewish children are indoctrinated with victimhood, which is a device for generating and maintaining in them a hatred of non-Jews, from babyhood and constantly, endlessly. That is what “Holocaust” commemorations are about, an expression of hatred of non-Jews.

    The Christians have never hated the Jews but the Jews have always hated the Christians. More generally, all non-Jews.

    That’s what the plainly fictitious Book of Esther is all about. When the Persians conquered Babylon they ended the Babylonian Exile, allowed all the Jews who wanted to to return to Palestine. So say Ezra and Nehemiah. Indeed, if you look at it closely, the Persians, the Aryans, created Judaism, and controlled it for a long time. The Jews had been polytheistic. Though the Hebrews had a single god, they believed there were many. Their own was a “jealous God”, collectively punishing the families of any who stepped out of line. The Persians, the Aryans, persuaded them that there were only God and Satan, only one God.

    But in Esther a Persian emperor with a fictitious name gives orders, for the most trivial reason that a particular Jew considered Jews were privileged and did not need to bow or curtsy as they later did in European monarchies. One refused to bow, so every last Jew in the Persian Empire was to be exterminated. The Emperor changed his mind but because he was infallible couldn’t revoke the order. Instead he ordered the Jews to exterminate as many of his own people as they could. Still, the Jews were the victims. They didn’t suffer or die, they killed, but they were the victims. All Jews were to be exterminated by Gentiles so Gentiles are to be hated. Hence Purim, actually ordered in Esther.

    To repeat, Jewish children are indoctrinated with victimhood, which is a device for generating and maintaining in them a hatred of non-Jews, indoctrinated, brain-washed with hatred, from babyhood, and constantly, endlessly, into adulthood.

    Now look at your child custody laws. Should parents who train children to hate, to hate everyone outside their own community, be allowed to retain custody of their children? Clearly not.

    Monitor Jewish pregnancies and Jewish hospitals. Whenever a child is born to Jews in your region, apply to the courts to deny the parents custody and place the baby in a non-Jewish foster home.

  328. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: The constant baiting just…
    • Trollolloll Jewsus: I will make you fishers of men. [Mark 1:17]

    Trollolloll Jewsus must really try your patience, more than even me! Unless you admit I’m better at it than him. Naw, I can’t be better than a Jewish Rabbi at it, right? LOL

  329. @Anon

    “The actual date of Christ’s birth is unresolved? LOL! No, numbskull, it’s resolved one way in one Gospel, and resolved in a completely contradictory way in another Gospel. Either one, or probably both.”

    I don’t think you understand the meaning of unresolved. It means there are two competing values with definitive conclusion. Since you yourself state “probably” it’s clear that it remains unresolved even by you. But that has no bearing on what my comment was referring to. I have not focused on this question, to the NT.

    The fact that one is incorrect, if they in fact are has little value to the overall value.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @j2
  330. @Anon

    the previous was a mispost

  331. @Anon

    “It’s you against the Jew Testament. I simply quote (not argue) the book, and you proceed to argue against it. It’s funny watching you bark at your own tail.”

    No. It’s me responding to your stated meaning of what the scripture(s) you reference mean. That is not the same thing. You have contend that scripture says this. You state the scripture as the intended argument. That argument includes your stated meaning. i.e. ever popular jew worshiper and must be a jew.

    Th attempt to slide by using a back track, I am only quoting scripture is incorrect on its face in light of your included commentary. So when you referenced ad hoc, you are really talking about your own positions. You make two clear arguments regarding the last scripture you referenced:

    1. that Paul’s was making Timothy a jew, jew worshiper or christian in accordance with jewish tradition.

    But its clear from the entire related verses that is not the case. Paul’s desire to placate the jews politically to advance the gospel has nothing to do with becoming a jew, worshiping a jew or becoming christian. Timothy could have rejected circumcision and it would have no effect on his being a christian – none. So whatever one’s views of Timothy or Paul. Your claim of circumcision to jewishness, jew worship or christian standing are not evidenced by the scripture you are using to make the argument.

    Here’s the ad hoc fallacy

    2. Then you claim, you are not making an argument despite your stated purpose of using scripture in response. That is the classic ad hoc attempt to escape a failing position. Like it or not accusing someone of ad hoc posit is in fact an argument. At first I though you meant

    “Ad hoc

    is a fallacious debating tactic (also called a “just so story” or an “ad hoc rescue”) in which an explanation of why a particular thing may be is substituted for an argument as to why it is; since it is therefore not an argument, it is not technically a fallacy, but is usually listed as one because it is a substitution for a valid argument”

    The substitution in this case, “I wasn’t making an argument, I was just quoting scripture.

    ad hoc post hoc ergo propter hoc

    “The post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this therefore because of this) fallacy is based upon the mistaken notion that simply because one thing happens after another, the first event was a cause of the second event. Post hoc reasoning is the basis for many superstitions and erroneous beliefs.”

    Just because Paul asks Timothy to get a circumcision has nothing to with being jewish . . .etc. or that there is anything of a relational nature taking place.

    Nor do references to jewish tradition, Israel mean that one will become a jew, or worship jews.

    Again, you have managed to bolster your case by leap frogging to any scripture while ignoring the related scriptures and references. And always the meaning you claim simply does not bear fruit from the very same material and authors you rest on.

    But in retrospect I don’t think you know what the terms mean.

    • Replies: @Anon
  332. This fact alone betrays the true nature of Hebrew monotheism: it was a deception from the beginning, the ultimate metaphysical crypsis. Only when that biblical hoax is exposed to the world will Zion start to lose its symbolic power. For it is the original source of the psychopathic bond by which Israel controls the world.

    Yep!

  333. @Kratoklastes

    Nowadays it’s only the ‘Jesus Myth’ hypothesis that is still contentious…

    Yeah, well, I still contend that he was pissed at the money changers in the temple. And for good reason. 😉

    PS: I like this…

    Truth advances one funeral at a time

  334. mcohen says:

    After reading through all the comments i have to conclude that attacks on different relegions by various people is not good comedy material.There is nothing to unbuckle a chuckle.Zero.

    Basically just cheek venting.

    When you think about all the good charitable work relegious organizations do.wtf donald duck.
    Lately through work i have been coming across people who are struggling and rely heavily on relegious institutions for there food and support.I wonder what they would think about the banter going on here.

    Hey ron unz.you are a rich man they say.whats going on.show some respect for relegion.you never know when you might be the one lying there

    • Replies: @Anon
  335. Robjil says:

    Julian Assange just got “arrested” today – 4/11/19. I wonder why another eleven day ? Perhaps the because of the fourth verse of Chapter one of a early Kabbala work, Sefer Yetzirah, The Book of Creation. The verse mentions that numbers nine and eleven are specifically not the numbers of the Sephiroth, the ten aspects of Yahweh, one less and one more. A very good clue for why the date nine eleven was “chosen”.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/yetzirah.htm

    “CHAPTER 1

    4. Ten are the numbers of the ineffable Sephiroth, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven. Learn this wisdom, and be wise in the understanding of it, investigate these numbers, and draw knowledge from them, fix the design in its purity, and pass from it to its Creator seated on his throne.”

  336. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    What about 666.what does the kabbalah say about triple six

  337. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The fact that one is incorrect proves the Jew Testament is FAKE NEWS, like all Jew News is.

  338. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    Holohoax is another Jew-worshiping religion, and you want it to have respect too, right, Schlomo? LOL

    • Replies: @anon
  339. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: Paul’s desire to placate the jews politically….
    Moi: …is enough to reject his Jew-sucking bullshit.

    But you won’t reject placating the Jews politically, and will write another 500 paragraph apology why you accept the Jew Testament’s placating the Jews politically. Because you’re a Jew-worshiping Cuck-boi.

  340. anon[732] • Disclaimer says:

    It seems the obstacle to understand the virus parasite bacterial nature of the Zionism are the quotes in the NT. Genuine human being unencumbered with the religion has to sharpen their language with different words ,hone their argumentative skills with worldly and earthly matters and ignore or dispel the heavenly flavors . The uber human has to coach .change, and color the language that refers to the victimhood of the masses and same times embraces the daily trials tolls sweats and labors of common people as noble life worthy of living but which demands justice from the rogues embodied by the parasites Zionist.

  341. Svigor says:
    @Seraphim

    Even if we were to take a universal from this anecdote (which would be dumb, but let’s do it for the purposes of argument), we still don’t get the silly Heaven and Hell cosmology common to grug-brain Christian sects today. The Heaven and Hell described = if you had a good life you go to Hell and if your life sucked you go to Heaven. And there’s no mention of duration. For all we know, it’s all over in five minutes, not a thing that lasts for all eternity.

    It’s literally just some silly anecdote that is clearly meant to get the noggin’ joggin, not be spun out into a cosmology.

  342. Che Guava says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Orthodox Christianity has some O.T. saints.

    AFAIK, the RCC does not.

    The old calendar of the eastern Roman empire was based on calculation from the Greek O.T., so dates are a bit odd. It is a little like protestant ‘young Earth’ creationists’ view.

  343. Art says:
    @Anon

    Art: tell us that Jesus was a Rabbi steeped in Jewness think.

    I don’t have to. Jesus will tell you.

    Jesus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”

    Jesus Christ the most consequential human being ever to life.

    Oh dear — little 570 is still throwing pebbles at Jesus calling him rabbi Jewsus.

    Pebbles is all he can manage – his weak little arms match his weak pathetic character and his weak little mind.

    Poor little 570 does not have the intellectual capacity to see the whole picture – all he can see is a line or two (which he misinterprets).

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  344. Interesting. Still, for some reasons that need to be explained (perhaps the influence and infiltation of Jews), the Catholic Church is more judaized than the Orthodox Church. From the Gregorian Reform (the real start of Roman catholicism as a separate tradition), Catholic approach to salvation emphacizes a sort of legalistic accounting of sin quite foreign to the Eastern Church. And the concept of holy war (crusades), directly justified from the OT, is also specifically Catholic. I am trying to understand what really differentiates the two, because I see Catholicism as doomed and sterile (from my own experience in France), but I am quite impressed by the role or the Orthodox tradition in the resurrection of Russia. One obvious difference, of course, is that the Russian Church is a national church, and so there is a complementarity between State and Church (going back to Byzantine times), while the Catholic Church is … Roman, with presently a Latin-American pope. That has always been the problem. There are also more practical differences (mariage of priests, no interdiction of divorce, etc.) which play to the advantage of Orthodxy, as well as the obvious aesthetic factor: Catholic masses are boring.

  345. Svigor says:
    @Seraphim

    It’s a safe bet that he isn’t. Generally speaking, only Jews hate Christianity that much. There are a few White wackos that do, and Unz.com does tend to collect such people, so I wouldn’t rule out the possibility. But odds are pretty good he’s a Jew.

    • Replies: @Anon
  346. Svigor says:
    @jacques sheete

    Borrow away. God knows I’ve stolen more than my share from others.

  347. Svigor says:
    @Art

    Jesus wasn’t even a Jew. This is yet another data point indicating that “anon” (only complete shitbirds won’t pick a proper handle and stick to it – ever noticed that?) is a Jew – Jews are extremely fond of the “Jesus was a Jew” line. This is the typical psychotic bitch ex-girlfriend behavior I referred to in a recent iSteve thread; Jews are constantly contradicting themselves so often in this way because they’re so full of hate: “Jesus is boiling in excrement in Hell forever” one minute, “Jesus was a Jew” the next. It all depends on who they’re spewing their invective toward at any given moment, and in what context.

    The fact is, Jesus was not a Jew. He was racially half-Jewish, at most, because his Father was God and God isn’t even human, much less Jewish. Religiously he obviously was not a Jew. Nothing could be more obvious than that.

    Even if you set aside Christ’s supposedly divine parentage, Jews admit they don’t actually know Jesus’ ancestry when they say Mary was a whore and Jesus was a bastard, father unknown, raised by the cuck Joseph.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Art
    , @jacques sheete
    , @Anon
  348. Art says:
    @Anon

    The Myth of a Non-Violent Jesus

    Why Is Jesus Violent In Revelation?

    Dear 570,

    Looking at the whole picture, an honest person would believe Jesus to be non-violent – a seeker of Peace.

    Clearly the “honest” part leaves you out.

    Think peace – Art

    p.s. “A ass once kicked a lion – the lion was dead.”

    p.s. Robert G. Ingersoll about attacks on Thomas Paine.

    • Replies: @Anon
  349. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    You still won’t admit you worship a Jewish Rabbi, even though it’s right there in the Jew Testament. I’d say Paul was correct when he admitted that his Jew-worshiping nonsense attracted the stupid and ignoble.

    • 1 Co. 1:18-26 “For the message about the cross is nonsense…the nonsense of our preaching…Not many of you were wise by human standardsnot many were noble…”

    Perfectly describes you.

    • Replies: @Art
  350. Svigor says:

    E.g:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/220567/the-jewish-jesus-story

    “In the mysterious and controversial ancient Hebrew text ‘Toledot Yeshu,’ a counterlife of the Nazarene ‘bastard, son of a menstruant’ that criticizes Jews as much as Christians”

    […]

    Toledot Yeshu was printed numerous times from the beginning of the modern period, in which it became disseminated throughout the Jewish communities both in Islamic lands and in Christian Europe. This attests to the great popularity it enjoyed among Jewish readers.

    […]

    The accusation that Mary attempted to cover up her extramarital pregnancy by fabricating a story about a virgin birth is not a virgin contribution of Toledot Yeshu. Such reports were widespread in the earliest pagan polemics against nascent Christianity, and allusions to it can be found in Talmudic literature. Unlike mere rumor, however, Toledot Yeshu creates a complete narrative episode. It has lust for an innocent maiden, seduction, deception, a cuckolded husband, and a pregnancy concealed by the adulteress through great cunning, a tale surprisingly reminiscent of the novellas in Boccaccio’s Decameron yet predating them by centuries. Thus Jesus was reborn as a “bastard, son of a menstruant,” an epithet that has stuck ever since within the Jewish world.

    […]

    It came to pass after these things that the wicked one [Jesus] played with the lads outside, as lads playing together are wont to do. The wicked one angered the lads with his playing. The lads said unto him: “Bastard, son of a menstruant! You think you are the son of Johanan? You are not his son, but the son of Joseph Pandera, who bedded your mother in her menses and sired you, evil begotten by evil.” Whereupon hearing these words the wicked one ran to his house, to his mother, fuming, and let out a great and embittered cry, uttering: “Mother! Mother! Tell me the truth straightaway. When I was little, the children used to say that I am a bastard, son of a menstruant, but I thought it a tease. But now the lads, all as one, hoot at me, day in and day out: ‘Bastard, son of a menstruant!’ They tell me that I am the son of Joseph Pandera, who came unto you in your menses.”

    All of this is far more known to Jews than to Christians, who would not take the news well. In other words, most Jews know perfectly well they’re full of shit when they call Jesus a Jew: he wasn’t a Jew in the religious sense (Jews put him to death for heresy and certainly don’t consider his religion to be Judaism), and at best they have no idea if he was a Jew in the racial sense because they know perfectly well they’ve spent the last 2000 years calling him the bastard of an unknown father.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Che Guava
  351. j2 says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “The actual date of Christ’s birth is unresolved? LOL! No, numbskull, it’s resolved one way in one Gospel, and resolved in a completely contradictory way in another Gospel. Either one, or probably both.”

    There is no confusion whatsoever, only an incorrect reading of what the Gospels say. There were two Messiahs, the prophet messiah, Jesus, and the king messiah, Herod Agrippa I (as was intended). Herod Agrippa is the one born to the family of Bethlehem, an unimportant family as he was a son of Herod the Great. Bethlehem is not a city in the prophesy, it is a family, check the prophesy. This family for Essenes was the Hasmoneans, and Herod Agrippa was Hasmonean having Mariamne I as the mother, the Holy Mary. Herod Agrippa was born 11 BC, soon enough after the Halley Comet of 12 BC, the star of Bethlehem. It is Hasmonean princes that Herod the Great persecuted and killed, so Herod Agrippa escaped to Rome.

    Jesus was born around the time of the census of 6 AD. He was symbolically born from the tax revolt, which developed into the rebellion movement. That rebellion was lead by Judah of Galilee, so in symbolic sense Jesus of Galilee was the adopted son of Judah of Galilee. The role of the prophet Messiah was to die for the redemption of the sins of the people so that they would be victorious in the war against Rome, and he had to be resurrected.

    Where do you see any confusion? There are two different genealogies for two Messiases. One is clearly Hasmonean and fits to Herod Agrippa. Jannai is Alexander Jannaeus, he is there, so are Mattais and so on.

    • Replies: @j2
    , @Anon
    , @ElitecommInc.
  352. j2 says:
    @j2

    “Herod Agrippa was Hasmonean having Mariamne I as the mother”

    Sorry for failing memory. Naturally, grandmother. But as for the story that Jesus was the son of an adulteress woman, the original story of Mary and Joseph is told in Josephus Flavius, it is about Herod the Great and Mariamne I. Herod the Great was called to Rome, or was it to Egypt by Romans, and when he returned he thought Mariamne I had been unfaithful with Joseph, one of his servants.

  353. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Wrong; not a Jew, Schlomo. Jews like you enjoy calling others Jews as the insult that it is, trying to drag Whites down to your level. Rub hands with your hasbara supervisor and try another attack to amuse me.

  354. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Svigor: “He was racially half-Jewish, at most, because his Father was God …”

    You try to weasel out of Jesus’ Jewishness with a sophomoric appeal to Magic! Tada! So very Jewish of you. But you forget that the Jewgod is well, quite Jewish himself, being a Jewish invention. Oh oh, back to square one! 🙂

    Svigor: the cuck Joseph.

    That’s another reason why Christianity is so toxic to White society. The Jew Testament can’t get past the first chapter of the first book without glorifying cuckoldry. Walk into about any church today, shitlib or conservitard, and count the adopted black babies. Jesus H. Fucking Christ, its a horror show.

    View post on imgur.com

  355. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @j2

    That’s pretty interesting, j2. Thank you for posting that information.

  356. Rich says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Actually, the more “successful ” Jews are secularists who may use their “Jewishness” as an ethnicity to get ahead, but rarely attend Temple or practice OT or Talmudic laws. Very religious, or Orthodox Jews, tend to be on the lower part of the economic scale. The non-religious Jews I grew up with and work with, are for the most part, very anti-Orthodox and often make jokes about them.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  357. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    • Svigor: he wasn’t a Jew
    • John 4:22: “Salvation is from the Jews.”

    Thus one may deduce that salvation cannot be from Jesus. Ah, that painful moment, when you step on your own dick. LOL

    • Replies: @Art
  358. Art says:
    @Anon

    You still won’t admit you worship a Jewish Rabbi, even though it’s right there in the Jew Testament.

    Calling Jesus a rabbi is so far from reality – “Jewsus” is an insulting lie.

    In their evil Talmud, Jew rabbis say Jesus is buried in excrement.

    Christian philosophy and rabbi think are diametrically opposed.

    America today is being run by rabbi think – look at us – we are at each other’s throats. The reason behind that is 100% evil Jew think.

    America must bring back Christian philosophy as our guiding light. We must get back to loving our neighbor as we love ourselves.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  359. Art says:
    @Svigor

    Jews are constantly contradicting themselves so often in this way because they’re so full of hate: “Jesus is boiling in excrement in Hell forever” one minute, “Jesus was a Jew” the next. It all depends on who they’re spewing their invective toward at any given moment, and in what context.

    How true. One day one thing – the next day the opposite comes out of his mouth.

    When a Jew is addressing you – he is always manipulating you – he can not help himself.

    In videos about “Jews for Jesus” – much of the talk centers around Jesus being a Jew (that is not a criticism – it is a fact). With that said – no matter how – finding Jesus‘ idealism is boon to an individual and his community.

    Think Peace —- Art

  360. Art says:
    @Anon

    when you step on your own dick. LOL

    Hmm — high Jew culture – Talmud think!

    • Replies: @Anon
  361. Anon[250] • Disclaimer says:

    • Art: Jewsus is an insulting lie.
    • John 4:22: Salvation is from the Jews.

    Not a Jew? OK, whatever. If he’s not a Jew, then one may deduce that salvation is not from Jesus, since the Jew Testament states clearly that “Salvation is from the Jews.” Is that also an insult? LOL Anyway, thanks for the explainer why nobody needs jesus for anything.

  362. Anon[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Better than cutting off your nuts like Jewsus advocated his followers to do, Jew-worshiper.

    Source:
    The Brick Testament
    The Teachings of Jewsus
    On Marriage and Castration
    http://thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_marriage_vs_castration/mt19_11-12.html

    You’re not really a follower of Jewsus, are you? LOL Chicken! Oh, go on and tell us how cutting off your nuts is the greatest thing since sliced bread for Western Civilization!

    • Replies: @Art
  363. “Mr. James Forrestal, Secretary for Defense. . . alone left a diary which fully exposes the methods by which Zion controls and manipulates governors and governments.” See chapter 43, “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed (written in 1956; first published in 1978, two years after Reed’s death) https://t.co/BiUPr21BgI
    (https://twitter.com/KarlGolovin/status/1102933494966243328?s=03)

  364. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: “an honest person would believe Jesus to be non-violent – a seeker of Peace.”
    • Jewsus: “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34)

    You and Jewsus have some serious disagreements.

    I might add that you sound angry. Jewsus said dat very bad.

    • “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment.” (Mt. 5:22)

    I know most of you Jew-worshipers try to weasel out of that by declaring that I’m not your brother, but then that just blows up your whole universal brotherhood bullshit you’ve been spouting. LOL

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  365. @Laurent Guyénot

    Laurent, thank you for this article; I’ve just ordered your new book. PLEASE read: “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed (written on 1956; first published in 1978, two years after Reed’s death). I think you’ll find the historical perspective found therein astonishing: https://t.co/BiUPr21BgI
    (https://twitter.com/KarlGolovin/status/1102933494966243328?s=03)

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  366. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    ALLAHOAX MOHOMO right lol

  367. CanSpeccy says:
    @Rich

    Actually, the more “successful ” Jews are secularists who may use their “Jewishness” as an ethnicity to get ahead, but rarely attend Temple or practice OT or Talmudic laws.

    Ys, but when I said:

    The reason that Jews have prospered so well in the Western world is that they have adhered more closely to their religion than have Christians.

    I was thinking chiefly of the Jew who prays to God each day to give thanks that he was not born a gentile.

    That is what white Europeans have lost. They ave lost faith in themselves, in their right to exist even, let alone their right, their ability, and their desire to go out into the world and conquer it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rich
  368. @Svigor

    This is the typical psychotic bitch ex-girlfriend behavior I referred to in a recent iSteve thread; Jews are constantly contradicting themselves so often in this way because they’re so full of hate: “Jesus is boiling in excrement in Hell forever” one minute, “Jesus was a Jew” the next. It all depends on who they’re spewing their invective toward at any given moment, and in what context.

    That is hilarious because it’s so true! You really have a grasp of the type, and I’m gonna borrow that one too! It’s like they’re all chosen, special, eminently successful and high IQ one minute, and eternal victims the next. I call ’em on that on occasion and have yet to get a response.

    Thanks!

  369. homahr says:
    @Anon

    EliteCommInc. is also a big supporter of the rapists and pedophiles who run Saudi Arabia. I wouldn’t be surprised if this Jew-Wahabi worshiper is a bit of pedo himself

  370. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    You and Jewsus have some serious disagreements.

    You have to realize that there is no contemporary account of what Jesus said. What he is said to have said was written by those who knew him not, each gospel representing a selection of the oral traditions of one of the many Greek-speaking Christian communities spread throughout the Roman Empire.

    None of the gospel writers spoke the language in which Jesus preached, and it is unlikely that any had contact with anyone who had known Jesus personally. Christianity is thus not a religion laid out by Jesus, who believed the end of the World was nigh, but a much later construct of the church, the Pauline creed, which was centered on the life of a mythical Christ.

    It is, therefore, unreasonable to taunt someone for the illogicalities, improbabilities, and contradictions among the gospel accounts. They are irrelevant to the Christian faith.

    • Replies: @Anon
  371. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: America must bring back Christian philosophy
    America: “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (Treaty of Tripoli, officially ratified by the Senate, with John Adams signing on 10 June, 1797)

    Welp…

    Liars For Jesus: The Religious Right’s Alternate Version of American History.
    http://www.liarsforjesus.com/

    • Replies: @Art
  372. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The Gospel accounts are irrelevant to the Christian Faith? You’re a hoot. Go ask a Jew-worshiper about that.

    And yeah, i understand Jewsus is a fictional character. Duh!

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  373. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Svigor: “Jews are constantly contradicting themselves”

    • If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. John 5:31
    • If I bear witness of myself, my witness is true. John 8:14

    There’s the “typical psychotic bitch ex-girlfriend behavior” in Jews you described.

  374. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    The Gospel accounts are irrelevant to the Christian Faith? You’re a hoot.

    By saying that, you demonstrate that you know nothing whereof you speak. Go read the apostolic creed. That is the essence of the Christian faith. It has almost nothing to do with what Jesus is said to have said. The gospels are good mainly for Sunday school teachers. They can explain the Parables and so forth.

    But then why am I debating an Anon. All Anons are cowards who wish to drivel publicly without receiving their just punishment from those who expose the ignorance.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  375. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    They have lost faith in themselves.

    Because their culture is seeped in this jewish nonsense:

    • Psalm 118:8 It is better to take refuge in Jewgod than to trust in man.
    • Micah 7:5 Put no trust in a neighbor; have no confidence in a friend
    • Jeremiah 17:5 Cursed is the man who trusts in man
    • Galatians 6:3 For if anyone thinks he is something…
    • Ephesians 2:8 This is not your own doing…
    • Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through SUPERJEW who strengthens me.
    • John 15:5 Apart from me you can do nothing.

  376. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    • CanSpec: The gospels are good mainly for Sunday school teachers. They can explain the Parables and so forth.
    • Galatians: All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness.

    You’re only exposing your own ignorance. Millions of Christians would vigorously disagree with your deprecation of their Holy Scriptures. But why am I debating with a pseudonym? All pseudonyms are cowards….blah..blah…LOL

  377. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    ThugSpeccy: “receiving their just punishment from those”

    🙂

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  378. Rich says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I really don’t think the successful secular Jewish doctor, lawyer or Indian chief wakes up every day and prays anything, let alone that Talmudic nonsense. They might buy into ethnic superiority, most successful people, most people, rich or poor believe their group is the best. It’s true that, unfortunately, some Whites have become so successful that they no longer see a need to stick together., but I don’t think the racial suicide advocated by the left will ever succeed. Parents still love their children, I hope. One major economic downturn and Whitey will wake up, and he’s going to be awful grouchy. I think.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  379. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rich

    I really don’t think the successful secular Jewish doctor, lawyer or Indian chief wakes up every day and prays anything, let alone that Talmudic nonsense. They might buy into ethnic superiority, most successful people, most people, rich or poor believe their group is the best.

    That’s what I was saying. What I meant, anyhow. But political correctness, the new religion of the West declares white people to be rubbish, without any special rights in their own homelands. Hence Justin Trudeau’s declaration to the New York Times that Canada is the world’s first “post-national state”.

    Canada, being no longer a nation, is thus a place where in the eyes of the government, anyone from anywhere has the same rights as a descendant of the original European settlers, or for that matter, the descendants of the original first nations, Indian or Innuit.

    The same belief guides policy throughout the homelands of the European peoples.

    I don’t think the racial suicide advocated by the left will ever succeed.

    Those on the left who advocate death to whiteness are either dupes or agents of the globalist Money Power that seeks to subordinate the nation state to the international agencies such as the UN, the WTO, NATO, the EU, etc.

    We’ve just seen the will of the British people trashed on Brexit by the Thereason May et al., which means the doors to mass immigration will remain open and the British will become a minority in their own home within a generation. That will not be a case of suicide but of globalist genocide.

    In due course, the people of Europe — and so it is no doubt intended, the people of the rest of the world — will be reduced to a mongrelized and deracinated race of Morlocks to be used, abused or eliminated at the will of the elite, who through increasing reliance on AI, automation and robotization will no doubt decide to reduce the world’s teeming masses to a reasonable number, no more, surely than a couple of hundred million. This slave class, to be regarded no doubt as sub-human, will be mainly alpha minus techies to run the machinery of civilization or nubile females supply the harems of the tiny elite that will own virtually everything.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rich
  380. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    Wow, Anon[293], that video tags you — a real psychopath.

    • Replies: @Anon
  381. Art says:
    @Anon

    Oh man – so far today – Google & 570 has proved that Jesus was a violent dude and American is not Christian (never was).

    Now all they need is for someone to believe that crap (those lies just do not work anymore)!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Sell your Google stock – 570 is taking up big chunks of resources looking up hate Jesus articles.

    p.s. He is a cut and paste guy – writing takes talent.

    • Replies: @Anon
  382. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Projecting again? You speak of “punishment” for me, then have the chutzpah to label me the “psychopath.” Must be you lost an argument, and ain’t much happy about it! So, like Art, you speak of the most important thing on your mind now — moi. 🙂

  383. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Art: Jesus was a violent dude
    • Jew Testament: So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

    Correct, same tactics as Antifa/BlackBloc in Portland.

    • Art: American is not Christian
    • Thomas Jefferson: Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. (Monticello, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814)

    Correct again. Stick with me Art, and I will teach you. Because I am hard, you will not like me. But the more you hate me , the more you will learn. 🙂

    • Replies: @Art
  384. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Those on the left who advocate death to whiteness — like Jewsus?

    Jewsus despised Gentiles’ White Patriarchy, and was very open about his hatred. “The rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so you.” (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25)

    Do you think Jewsus’ seething hatred of Gentile White Patrarchy is because he was a degenerate Forty Year Old Virgin with some serious Daddy Issues?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @anon
  385. @Karl Golovin

    Thank you Karl. Yes, I do know Douglas Reed’s book and I can even say that it was a major incentive to do my own research which led to my book. I quote Reed sometimes, but not as much as he would deserve, for the reason that I tried to check every piece of information and, in order to keep my footnotes short, I only mention the original source when I can find it. The Controversy of Zion remains a must-read, and Ron Unz should include it in his database, if he hasn’t done it yet.

  386. @Laurent Guyénot

    Laurent,

    I’m beyond pleased that Douglas Reed’s work is referenced in, and even was a factor in prompting your further research and new text. Perhaps 10 years ago, I stumbled across and then was amazed to read F. Tupper Saussy’s “Rulers of Evil: Useful Knowledge About Governing Bodies,” as in a sense parallels Reed’s “Controversy of Zion,” primarily unfolding the influence of the Roman Church’s Jesuits (a “military order”) in geopolitics for the near 500 years since their establishment in about 1540. Reed’s text then promoted my wondering whether the Jesuit Order was the primary back door by which Talmudic Zionists definitively coopted the Roman Church’s hierarchy and slavishly obedient sheep – although I suspect the hijacking was underway long before 1540. I’ve recently acquired, but yet to read in detail – a fairly recent text by a Jesuit scholar, Robert Maryks, “The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews.” FYI, I took out as a full page advertisement in the January 2016 Trump Inauguration editions of The Washingtin Times, on the topic of “False Flag Terrorism – JFK to 9/11” – to the text of which (as an online article) is currently forwarded domain: http://www.AnIdeaLivesOn.net. Regards, Karl

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  387. @Karl Golovin

    Thanks,
    I have heard of Markys’s book, and read the detailed review on http://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/07/review-the-jesuit-order-as-a-synagogue-of-jews-part-one/
    Very insightful!
    Thanks for the link, and congratulations.
    It is a pleasure to read constructive comments like yours. To my regret, too many comments here are aggressive, insulting, irrelevant, repetitive, and counter-productive.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Robjil
  388. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    Jewsus despised Gentiles’

    Yes, I’ve read the gospels. But as I stated, the gospels are not the basis of the Christian faith. Furthermore, the gentiles of whom Jesus spoke with contempt, were the gentiles of his day, and in particular the Roman rulers of Palestine and the immigrants to Palestine from other parts of the Roman world. In other words, Jesus apparently viewed gentiles pretty much as most people in the West today view imperialistic Americans and immigrants from the Third World.

    But according to the doctrine of supercession, the Christians are now the people of God and the Jews and every other non-christian people are the gentiles.

    So don’t come back at me with more sneering drivel about Jesus. It is of no interest to anyone and certainly carries no weight with me, since I am under no illusions about Jesus either as man or god, and on the whole am inclined to think that he was a charismatic schizophrenic, around the character of whom Paul was able to fashion a religion of suitable for later imperial adoption.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  389. Robjil says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Commenters who fight over minor details off the real target are like hamsters spinning in a wheel in a cage.

    The root of the problem is what we must focus on.
    The root is the 500 BC fantasy world from the Old Testament/Tanakh that are taken as facts or a plan book for all the present day policies in the western world.

    Your book “From Yahweh to Zion” and “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglass Reed both go to the deep roots of this insanity that we are living in our present time.

    Fighting over what people do with shoots, branches or leaves growing from the roots of these primitive 500 BC fantasies is not going to free us from our Old Testament/Tanakh rulers. The roots have to be pulled up and looked at. Climate Change is peanuts compared to Zion Change.

  390. @Seraphim

    “@Meanwhile Eastern Christianity uses only the New Testament, the book of Christian faith

    Is that just simply stupid ignorance of ‘Eastern Christianity’ or simply a brazen lie?”

    Since my early childhood, all Eastern Church masses I have attended do not read directly from the Old Testament but from the New Testament with references to the Old Testament, whereas all Latin masses read directly from the Old Testament. On many occasions I have expressed my indignation about reading the Old Testament to the clergy of the Latin denomination as I considered most of what appears in the Old Testament to be outright contradictory with the New Testament as the Old Testament is actually two books: one that possesses a true wisdom of the prophets while another is nothing more than primitive Hollywoodian propaganda at the service of the Judean religious and temporal establishment. It seems that the references of the New Testament are by and large related to the wisdom of the prophets. The real disaster is that many in the Christian West take the Old Testament literally without giving any thought to the possibility that religious books are never immune to political manipulations. Even within Protestantism, it seems that Martin Luther does not give the same weight to the Old Testament that Calvin does ( please correct me if I am wrong).

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Anon
  391. Art says:
    @Anon

    Correct again. Stick with me Art, and I will teach you. Because I am hard, you will not like me. But the more you hate me , the more you will learn.

    Oh dear — more cut and paste hate on Jesus – clearly the power of Google is being put in service of hate.

    Once again we see the stark contrast between Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount and the Jew Talmud that drives 293 and 570 (???).

    The choice is clear and stark – you can love your neighbor as you love yourself or you can follow the Talmuders.

    Think Peace — Art

  392. Art says:
    @Anon

    You’re not really a follower of Jewsus, are you? LOL Chicken! Oh, go on and tell us how cutting off your nuts is the greatest thing since sliced bread for Western Civilization!

    Oh man — another brilliant example of the difference between those who love Jesus and those who hate Him.

    It is clear – as America hates on Jesus – it hates on each other.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Anon
  393. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Senator Norm Coleman, who once called Trump: “A bigot. A misogynist. A fraud. A bully,” led a Passover Dayenu chant in which he replaced “God” with “Trump”.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/04/12/to-be-or-not-to-be-a-zionist/

    Pay the more ,they replace their fathers with Trump .

  394. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    So you can write sneering drivel about America, but nobody can sneer the precious Jewsus. Gotcha, Sclomo!

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  395. @j2

    Uhhh, no.

    There actually is some debate. It’s not that big of deal to me. We get a lot wrong about earlier toime periods.

    • Replies: @j2
  396. What I support is sovereignty.

    As to Saudi Arabia my comments have to been to whether or not they had culpability in 9/11 and to date based on the data we have, the answer is no.

    Furthermore, we have on many respects locked the Saudis and others into a very bizarre corner. In the old days Iraq served as the buffer and the check to Iran. Against Saudi advice, we removed that buffer and the consequences have not only benefited Iran, it has created a mess in the region. And part of that mess is directly related to the adversarial disposition between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

    I have long thought that Saudia Arabia could alleviate the Yemen question by peaceful means. However, if Iran is engaged in fostering violence I get their fears. However, they should either engage with a ground war to settle the dispute or cease the failing bombing campaign and endeavour to ameliorate tensions as they once did some forty years ago. A relationship that was broken when Yemenis began protesting on Saudi soil. A mistake in my view and cut off what had been a mutual beneficiary relationship.

    The Saudis were pressured to take in Muslim extremists from the Afghan war by the US and Great Britain. That eventually placed the Royal family at greater risk from extremists which had attempted to overthrow the monarchy on multiple occasions. They have provided unwavering(most of the time) for US operations in the region at their risk.

    Anyone who understands the quid pro quo dynamics of foreign relations, it’s safe to say that they are cashing in on some over due back pay.

    As someone who deeply supports celibacy, I can find nothing in my me now or the past that would indicate that I support same sex relations, or relations with children by anyone (though I leave room for cultural differences about such things as practices vary).

    A lack of further response on my part further is not due to lack of response. It’s that I am on to other issues.

    ——————————

    For those of with deep animosity regarding faith, scripture, christians, Christ, and God. I would always encourage you to take the matter up with him. For ultimately, that is the issue. Whatever wrong, obnoxious, upsetting thing you experienced by christians or anyone else — Christ is happy to wrestle the matter with you. Don’t believe in God and think christians are lousy lights — take te matter up with him directly. He knows your name and will tackle any issue as you see to bring the matter.

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    , @Geranamo
    , @Anon
  397. j2 says:
    @ElitecommInc.

    “It’s not that big of deal to me. ”

    It is not a big deal to me neither, but Gospel stories are like legends and must be interpreted. So, take this Judah of Galilee, the founder of Sicarii, the dagger men who made a suicide in Masada in 73. You immediately see that there is a connection with Judah of Galilee and Jesus of Galilee because Luke connects the birth of Jesus to the tax census and the revolt of Judah was because of the tax census. You can correctly identify Judah with Judas Iscariot, who also made a suicide. You can exactly match the events in the Revelations with the Jewish Rebellion of 66-73. The meaning of the Revelation is an explanation what happened in the war and a promise that despite of what happened, the old prophesies will be fulfilled. Because Jews lost, the conclusion of the followers of Jesus was that God has selected another people. They could not explain it in any other way.

    This identification of Judah of Galilee and Judas Iscariot does not mean that there was a person called Judas Iscariot. It is like in the Finnish (Kalevala) legend of Lemminkainen. The original hero was an Estonia Viking Lembity, but the way these stories are told changes the story.

    Some times the story teller does not like outsiders to understand it, like with Gospels. That is why Jesus says, you have ears and you do not understand, and explains it to the disciples. The truth of Jesus had to be hidden form the Romans, as it meant a rebellion. The story Jesus asked the disciples to tell was that the time of the redemption has come. It means that there will soon be a war and Israel will win against Rome. It did not go as intended, therefore Jews hate Jesus ever since. Not that he was a wrong Messiah. It is that he was the Messiah of the war that was lost. It was Jesus: read Josephus Flavius of the signs in heaven seen in 66: a cross (sword) and a star. That is Messiah and that is the promised coming of Jesus in the skies with the heavenly hoard.

    Paul, on the other hand, collected money from the gentiles for the Poor of Jerusalem, the Essenes, who were to inherit the land (the simple minded become sacrifices and went to the heavenly Kingdom), the donated money was for the war and for the new temple – it is listed in the Copper Scroll. Gentiles who died as sacrifices were believed to go to the Heaven, the same as with sacrificed and blameless animals, so Paul did not cheat the gentiles. He offered them a fair deal: if they give all their money and die as sacrifices for redeeming Jewish sins, then Jewish scriptures promise that they go to the Heaven.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  398. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Gotcha, Sclomo!

    You ain’t got nuthin’.

    • Replies: @Anon
  399. Robjil says:

    The early Christians used the Roman sea (the Mediterranean Sea) to spread the Gospel. It was the safest time ever in history to travel everywhere around this sea. The Romans also had a very well developed road system around this sea for quick and safe travel. We have the internet now to do something similar. This time we can spread the Gospel of nine eleven reality. Nine eleven was such a sloppy, cruel job by our warmongering rulers. It is our key to free us from the crazy Tanahk/Old Testament fanatics who rule us with an iron fist.

    Wesley Clark said that Seven nations were to be destroyed for the nine eleven false flag. Guyenot mentioned in his book that this “sophisticated” concept of destroying seven nations comes from the Tanakh/Old Testament, Deuteronomy 7. 1-2.

    https://www.biblica.com/bible/niv/deuteronomy/7/

    “1When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.”

    This key idea and many other such keys from the nine false flag can be massively promoted to open the doors to our freedom from our Zion fanatic rulers.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  400. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @ElitecommInc.

    You’re hilarious! Jewsus is a fictional Jewish character invented by Jewish storytellers. You concoct a list all sorts of accusatory bullshit why you think somebody might not like Jewsus, but you won’t list his Jewishness. Yours is called a lie by omission.

  401. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    “Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.” -Michael Palin (Monty Python’s Argument Clinic Sketch)

  402. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: America hates on Jewsus
    ADL: America hates on Jews us.

    We’ve heard that plea from you Jew-worshipers for years now. Do you think anybody here takes your concern trolling seriously, Schlomo?

    • Replies: @Art
  403. Rich says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I hope, I pray, that Europeans wake up and don’t allow our uniqueness to come to an end. Here, in the colonies, it’s difficult, but back in the Motherland, it’s still possible to keep the Race alive. I actually like White people and hope we stick around.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  404. Anne Lid says:
    @Anon

    Eastern Orthodoxy seems quite sturdy. They don’t give much attention to the Old Testament.

    • Replies: @Anon
  405. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anne Lid

    The Jew Testament contains 4,105 references to the Old Testament. (Scholarly reference in comment #211.) Please tell me how they avoid those so as to not give them “attention.” Do Orthodox take a razor to the Jew Testament to avoid the Old Testament, like Jefferson did to avoid miracles?

  406. Art says:
    @Anon

    Art: America hates on Jewsus
    ADL: America hates on Jews us.

    Observe the talent for hate through words.

    As America gets more controlled by Jew Talmuders – its people get more and more divided – hate multiplies.

    The Christian philosophy is different – it brings people together – Christianity says to love your neighbor as you love yourself.

    Many Americans have foolishly listened to the Jews and bought into the hate for Jesus. Talmuders say Jesus should be boiled or buried in excrement. Imagine that – the most positive, influential human to ever have lived, should be treated like that. These Jews are inferior – end of story.

    America must return to its philosophical Christian beginnings – that asks us to form a more perfect union fostering freedom and responsibility.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Hmm — are Anon 293, 250, and 750 all the same person – they sure write alike?

    • Replies: @Anon
  407. @j2

    J2,

    Laughing. I really am taking a breather.

    I think Judas is Judas identified as one of the original twelve and Acts makes specific reference to him when they seek to appoint a replacement.

    When I say, it doesn’t matter that much to me it’s because it has little value to changing the context or content of who Christ was and what occurred.

    Hmmmm, well Jesus never intended that his arrival would lead to an earthly kingdom. And while many Jews hoped that to be the case, he made it clear it was not. He did not engage in acts of warfare with Rome, nor did he approve any based on the record. and I would agree that one of the reasons the Jews were sore was that he did not lead them to establish mundane kingdom, but that is only one reason.

    Uhhhh, ok. I have no idea what you are talking about – at all, in any way about Paul. There is no such scriptural record of gentiles standing in for the sins jews rejecting Christ. Jesus says plainly, that generation will bare the brunt of that guilt.

    And as Christ was the sacrifice for all sin — all sin, animal sacrifice is no longer part of faith and practice.

    I am careful to blend outside histories with scripture. Some of your references are far afield of scripture, but Paul never required anything of gentiles but follow Christ. And despite the attempts by many to play fast and loose with texts — the story of christ is fairly consistent. And the primary value of the Old is to provide evidence of who is and metaphor for Jews of what it means to enter the New kingdom of God, through Christ and imbued with his spirit.

    Which makes any walk with Christ first and foremost one of a personal communion.
    ——————————

    There are lots of reasons why people reject the Christ. But none of those will redressed by dismantling scripture, jews, christians, christianity — but if you have the courage taking them up with him might rest some answers, maybe not, but all the venting here is not going to bring down the christianity, nor redress whatever fuels your bitterness.

    I say that as someone with a bowl full of bitterness of my own. No christian I know worships Jesus as jew and no apostle makes that demand. Jesus on Earth is a far different cry than the crucified resurrected Christ — that would be the case even if one thought the matter fiction.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @j2
  408. If the Jews do not recognize and convert to the Prince of Peace, their own true Messiah, and God’s greatest gift to the entire world, their restlessness, exclusiveness, talents and deceptions will surely lead the world into more major wars and destruction. If not for Jesus of Nazareth, St. Paul, and all the early Jewish followers of Christ there would be no Christianity and likely much less tolerance such that the tribal group which rejected Christ would have been long gone. The Zionists have demonstrated that they have no moral limits to expanding their tribal interests, yet the only way they will change and for the world to have a chance for real peace and prosperity is for more Jewish people to convert. History is peppered with the great contributions to the world from great Jewish people, but the exclusive tribal interests and goals whereby the ten commandments do not extend to non-Jews leads to repugnancy and strife. There is no such thing as racial anti-Semitism because when Jewish people convert to any universal religion of good will to all, they are dearly loved and in my experience regarded as very special. Their whistleblowers such as Henry Makow and converts like Brother Nathaniel, Benjamin Freedman, and Bernard Nathanson are tremendously admired, loved and honored by many. The Jewish people must see their own great honor and purpose in being chosen as the people who in their history of suffering, tenacity and turmoil brought to all mankind reconciliation with God and the gateway to eternal life through the gift of Jesus Christ. Those who have been touched and changed by the universal love of God are the only really chosen ones, and perhaps the only true Jews in His eyes.

    • Replies: @Anon
  409. @luke2236

    If the Jews do not recognize and convert to the Prince of Peace, their own true Messiah, and God’s greatest gift to the entire world, their restlessness, exclusiveness, talents and deceptions will surely lead the world into more major wars and destruction. If not for Jesus of Nazareth, St. Paul, and all the early Jewish followers of Christ there would be no Christianity and likely much less tolerance such that the tribal group which rejected Christ would have been long gone. The Zionists have demonstrated that they have no moral limits to expanding their tribal interests, yet the only way they will change and for the world to have a chance for real peace and prosperity is for more Jewish people to convert. History is peppered with the great contributions to the world from great Jewish people, but the exclusive tribal interests and goals whereby the ten commandments do not extend to non-Jews leads to repugnancy and strife. There is no such thing as racial anti-Semitism because when Jewish people convert to any universal religion of good will to all, they are dearly loved and in my experience regarded as very special. Their whistleblowers such as Henry Makow and converts like Brother Nathaniel, Benjamin Freedman, and Bernard Nathanson are tremendously admired, loved and honored by many. The Jewish people must see their own great honor and purpose in being chosen as the people who in their history of suffering, tenacity and turmoil brought to all mankind reconciliation with God and the gateway to eternal life through the gift of Jesus Christ. Those who have been touched and changed by the universal love of God are the only really chosen ones, and perhaps the only true Jews in His eyes.

  410. Geranamo says:
    @ElitecommInc.

    Mossad’s execution of 9-11 should have been a wake up call.
    You guys subscribed to the phony WMD and coyote planes dissapearing into the babylonian twin towers whilst your intuition should have kicked in and told you something is not right.
    9-11 should have been the litmus test for truth but you conveniently ignored it. You looked the other way due to cognitive dissonance.
    You followed Bush’s order to go on a spending spree with more credit card debt jacked up with high interest to feed the satanic cabal instead.
    With all these bogus wars on terror and non-ending hoaxes you have unwittingly supported the Zionist Satanic push for one world disorder.
    At this point, all you can do is repent for your sins and start fighting back the criminal enterprize who are in charge of orchestrating all these bogus war on terror, creating these monstrous, diabolical, sinister ISISraHELL with the help of al-CIA-da and MOSSAD.
    Alternate would be to sit back and enjoy bigger fireworks than 9-11 coming near you whilst they prepare greater IzraHELL for the coming of their Yahweh, The Anti-Christ dajjal who will globalize his reign of terror from Jerusalem.
    Either way buckle up for a roller coaster ride with some of these demonic, totally psychopathic, diabolical, sinister, pathological liars and corrupters of mother earth. You reap what you sow.

    [MORE]

    The infuriating thing about 9/11 and the multitude of lesser false flags which both preceded and followed it is that, although most Americans know it was as phoney as a three and a half dollar fed reserve note, everyone seems content to put up with the extremely phoney “war on terror” it was designed to create and which has already destroyed a hand full of countries in the world, caused the murder of upwards of two million people, mostly using U.S. military, and turned the U.S. into a ruthlessly insane police state wherein everyone is made to obey patently unlawful statutes in the name of “emergency” while the ruling elite has quit obeying any laws at all while gathering a massive military presence to cow the now restless and resentful public. – See more at:Christopher Bollyn: The Man Who Solved 9/11

    ISLAM AGAINST TERRORISM •
    1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
    2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
    3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
    4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.
    5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
    6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
    7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
    8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
    9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
    10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.
    Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”
    In other words, the Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell– quite the opposite.
    When speaking of the 7th-century situation in the Muslim city-state of Medina, which was at war with pagan Mecca, the Quran notes that the polytheists and some Arabian Jewish tribes were opposed to Islam, but then goes on to say:
    5:82. ” . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers [Muslims] those who say: ‘We are Christians.’ That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.”
    So the Quran not only does not urge Muslims to commit violence against Christians, it calls them “nearest in love” to the Muslims! The reason given is their piety, their ability to produce holy persons dedicated to God, and their lack of overweening pride.
    (For a modernist, liberal interpretation, see this pdf file, “Jihad and the Islamic Law of War.”
    https://www.juancole.com/20…
    https://www.clearquran.com

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Anon
  411. Seraphim says:

    Obviously you never attended an Orthodox service if you can say that. Psalms are not Old Tetament in your opinion? Prophets are read too, from OT directly.

  412. Seraphim says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Obviously you never attended an Orthodox service if you can say that. Psalms are not Old Tetament in your opinion? Prophets are read too, from OT directly.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  413. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rich

    I actually like White people and hope we stick around.

    Yes, well quite apart from personal preference, genocide is simply wrong.

    Moreover, as a lover of diversity, swamping out the races of mankind by universal mongrelization is to me abhorent.

    So while I like and respect most of the people of various races whom I have known, worked for, worked with, taught or employed, I believe that the Africans have an adequate living space in Africa, just as the Asians and Middle Easterners have adequate living space in their own homelands. I see no reason, therefore, why Europeans, who are now a dying race with a far below replacement fertility rate, should be pressed further toward the wall of extinction, by immigration of people of alien race, religion and culture seeking to take their jobs and housing andto infiltrate their institutions of governance.

    • Replies: @Anon
  414. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Geranamo

    Mossad’s execution of 9-11 should have been a wake up call.

    whatever role Israelis had in 9/11 — and there are good indications that it was substantial — I find it inconceivable that they would have perpetrated such a crime without authorization from the top level of the US Government. 9/11 was a false flag, with critical parts of the operation outsourced to agents in a number of different countries including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel among others. What makes top level US authorization certain is the absence of genuine forensic or judicial inquiries into the event, despite clear evidence of a USAF stand-down.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  415. My comments only address Saudi Arabia and nothing else.

  416. Robjil says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Yes, the US government, with Israel, spit on its largest city without any pity. It was all for delusional fantasies to create a 500 BC Old Testament fantasy world. Santa Claus like thinking by adults on a horrific scale. So sad.

    Everyone was bamboozled for decades that the 21st century would be the “dawning of the age of Aquarius”. We got the exact opposite. There has been no dawning of the human mind as of yet, not even an inkling of one. Instead it has been all sunset, sunset, sunset of the human mind for the past seventeen years.

    • Replies: @Anon
  417. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: “Many Americans have foolishly listened to the Jews…”
    Jew Testament: “Salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22) “The Jew First!” (Romans 1:16)

    So stop foolishly listening to the Jews.

    • Replies: @Art
  418. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: “No christian I know worships Jesus as jew”
    Jew Testament: “Salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22) “We are the Circumcision.” (Phil. 3:3)

    The duplicitous weasel weasels again.

  419. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    • CanSpeccy: far below replacement fertility rate
    • “Woe unto them that are with child.” (Matthew 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23) “Blessed are the childless women.” Luke 23:29)

    Listening to Jewsus is suicide for White people.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  420. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Geranamo

    • Geranamo: “unwittingly supported the Zionist”
    • Zionist: “Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.” (Zephaniah 3:14)

    Jew-worshipers’ support of Zion is clearly not unwitting. They carry a heavy book of Zionist propaganda with them to church every Sunday.

  421. @Robjil

    Wesley Clark said that Seven nations were to be destroyed for the nine eleven false flag. Guyenot mentioned in his book that this “sophisticated” concept of destroying seven nations comes from the Tanakh/Old Testament, Deuteronomy 7. 1-2.

    I’m glad you mentionn that point. Realizing the biblical origin of this “seven nations” theme was a breakthrough for me to understand the true nature of the new World War that started on 9/11, and I think it can really help also to see through the Zionist controlled opposition strategy. So I reproduce here the complete argument as I just wrote it in the above article:

    when Israeli leaders claim that their vision of the global future is based on the Hebrew Bible, we should take them seriously and study the Bible. It is helpful, for example, to be aware that Yahweh has designated to Israel “seven nations greater and mightier than you,” that “you must utterly destroy,” and “show no mercy to them.” As for their kings, “you shall make their name perish from under heaven” (Deuteronomy 7:1-2, 24). The destruction of the “Seven Nations,” also mentioned in Joshua 24:11, is considered a mitzvah in rabbinic Judaism, and by the great Maimonides in his Book of Commandments,[44] and it has remained a popular motif in Jewish culture. Knowing this will help to understand the neocon agenda for World War IV (as Norman Podhoretz names the current global conflict).[45] General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Commander for NATO in Europe (he led the NATO agression against Serbia twenty years ago), wrote, and repeated in numerous occasions, that one month after September 11, 2001, a Pentagon general showed him a memo “that describes how we’re gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan and finishing off with Iran.”[46] Wesley Clark has managed to pass as a whistleblower, but I believe he belongs to what Gilad Atzmon sees as the Jewish controlled opposition, together with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now who interviewed him.[47] Only in 1999 has he revealed being the son of Benjamin Jacob Kanne and the proud descendant of a lineage of Kohen rabbis. It is hard to believe that he has never heard about the Bible’s “seven nations”. Is Clark a crypto-Zionist trying to write history in biblical terms, while blaming these wars on WASP Pentagon warmongers? Interestingly, in his September 20, 2001 speech, President Bush also cited seven “rogue states” for their support of global terrorism, but in his list, Cuba and North Korea replaced Lebanon and Somalia. It is because part of Bush’s entourage refused to include Lebanon and Somalia, while his neocon handlers insisted on keeping the number seven for its symbolic value? Whatever the explanation, I suspect that the importance of targeting exactly “seven nations” after 9/11 stems from the same biblical obsession as the need to have ten Nazis hanged on Purim day 1946 to match the ten sons of Haman hanged in the Book of Esther. Just like Rabbi Bernhard Rosenberg can now marvel at how prophetic the Book of Esther is,[48] the idea is to “realize,” a few decades from now, that World War IV fulfilled Deuteronomy 7: the destruction of Israel’s seven enemy nations. Christian Zionists will be in extasy and praise “the Lord” (as their Bible translates YHWH). Of course, fulfilling prophecies does not always come easy: Isaiah 17:1, “Behold, Damascus will soon cease to be a city, it will become a heap of ruins,” is not quite done, yet.

    • Agree: Robjil
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  422. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fred Baggins

    Fred: “The Jewish people must see their own great honor and purpose in being chosen.”

    Christcucks just cannot stop sucking Chosenite jewcock for even a minute.

  423. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Levantine

    If the Old Testament is nothing more than primitive Hollywoodian propaganda, then why is it referenced in the Jew Testament 4,105 times, hmm? It’s pretty obvious that the Jew Testament is also nothing more than primitive Hollywoodian propaganda.

    Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to destroy the primitive Hollywoodian propaganda: I am not come to destroy, but to full shill. (Mt. 5:17)

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  424. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    The Old Testament fantasy world is referenced in the Jew Testament fantasy world 4,105 times. That means the Jew Testament is a fantasy world too.

    And the star they had seen in the east guided them to Bethlehem. It went ahead of them and stopped over the place where the child was.

    Tada! There’s your Santa Claus like thinking by adults on a horrific scale, celebrated every Merry Cuckmas, the Jewish holiday that stamped out Whitefolk’s Yuletide holiday. So sad.

  425. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @ElitecommInc.

    • EliteComm: quid pro quo dynamics of foreign relations
    • Romans 15:27: For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.

    There’s your quid pro quo that drives America’s foreign relations.

    • Replies: @anon
  426. anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Have you seen the recent data ?
    Have you noticed that more the Israelis become rich with American money , worse the American get financially ?
    Have you noticed more the fundamentalist Israeli become religiously , more the American become secular ?
    Have you seen , more suppprts are poured yo appease the fanatics settler Zionist , all supports are withdrawn from devout religious American ?

    I have .

  427. @Anon

    I hope that your statistical reference is based on a scholarly work as I admit that my personal research never went beyond reading of the New Testament. I have always sought to dissociate the New Testament from the Old Testament for a simple reason: the ideology of the one is diametrically opposed to the other. The Old Testament is meant for the glory of a race whereas the New Testament is meant for the glory of mankind by declaring all human beings as the sons of a loving God as opposed to a jealous and vindictive Yahweh.
    Now I do not see the message of love, sharing and forgiveness to imply the melting pot. All people are subject to the same law. Not only there is no duality of the law according to slave or master race classification but there is no aristocracy of knowledge the way it is practiced by secret societies, be they the Catholic Church, the Freemasonery, the Illuminati or the Zionists. Jesus spoke to anyone willing to listen and was welcoming to all ages. In fact he very much compressed the Ten Commandments into two commandments : love your God and love your neighbour. The neighbour here is not your fellow tribesman but any brother in humanity. Yet that still does not imply procreating between culturally incompatible races, unless united by love, or the killing of diversity under the pretence of saving it as practiced nowadays by the so called ‘ Liberal establishment’. Christianity and Nationalism can go hand in hand as long as nationalism is based on cooperation and fair play as opposed to imperialism and supremacy. Most important of all is to dissociate Christianity from Churchianity since the Catholic Church has abandoned the true tenets of Christianity from the beginning of the Renaissance era best exposed in the book of Dr. Michael Hoffman: The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome.

    • Replies: @Anon
  428. @Seraphim

    Yes I have heard psalms from the Old Testament in Orthodox Masses but never have I listened to full readings from the Old Testament the way it is done in Latin Masses. Anyhow, it is up to the major churches to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to the Old Testament but that looks like wishful thinking as none of them has dared to renounce Jewish supremacism by calling a spade a spade.

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  429. Robjil says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Most people are not aware of how the negative aspects of the Old Testament are endlessly recycled by our Zion rulers for the past 100 years. The Nuremberg trial, as you noted, is a glaring example. Ten top National Socialist were hanged just like the ten sons of Haman. Julius Streicher noticed this and said Purimfest 1946 before he was hanged.

    The Zion recycled program is called noheg l’doros. The Seven nations to destroy, as you noted, is a big concept of this recycle program.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

    “Since these seven nations no longer exist4 a person could think that this commandment is not noheg l’doros [for all generations5]. But only someone who does not understand the concept of noheg l’doros would think such a thing. A command that can be fulfilled without being limited to a certain time is considered noheg l’doros, because if the act would become possible in any generation, the mitzvah would apply. ”

    Amalek theme is another lovely concept from the Tanakh/Old Testament. It calls for the genocide of any people that Zionists considered an enemy to Israel firsters. It is also in the noheg l’doros recycle program.

    “When G‑d will totally destroy the descendants of Amalek and remove them for all time — as will be speedily in our days, as G‑d (exalted be He) promised,6 “I will wipe out the memory of Amalek” — will we say that the mitzvah (command) to wipe out the memory of Amalek7 was not noheg l’doros? This is not true, for in any generation when one finds a descendant of Amalek, he must be killed. “

    This Amalek concept was used relentlessly with the fire bombing of German, French and Japanese cities in WWII. Soldiers weren’t “attacked” at all. Civilians considered as Amalek- like were attacked.

    This recycled program can applied every generation without end.

    “The same applies to this mitzvah (command) of killing all descendants of the seven nations, which is a milchemes mitzvah ( mandatory war). In every generation we are required to uproot them and search after them down to the last individual. We did this until King David destroyed them completely, with the survivors being scattered and assimilated among the nations until they disappeared. “

    Any talk about Tanakh/ Old Testament as being “ended” is considered “anti-Semitic” by our Zion rulers. There was a big controversy over a Martin Luther doll with “The End” label on the Old Testament which caused a big fury in Occupied Germany. Our Zion rulers don’t want the horrific concepts from the Old Testament to ever end. It has been very useful during their rule for the past hundred years.

    https://religionnews.com/2017/01/04/how-a-toy-figure-of-martin-luther-sparked-accusations-of-anti-semitism/

    “All was apparently going fine until Micha Brumlik, a retired Frankfurt University education professor and respected Jewish commentator, wrote last June that the popular toy was “anti-Jewish, if not even anti-Semitic.”

    The problem, he said, was the inscription on the open pages of the Bible that the Playmobil Luther holds. On the left is written in German: “Books of the Old Testament. END” while the right page says “The New Testament, translated by Doctor Martin Luther.”

    To all the commenters who relentlessly attack the New Testament. It is a New Testament to reform the Old Testament. If we really had New Testament like rulers, the worst and most negative aspects of the Tanakh, Old Testament such as Seven nations to be destroyed, Amalek or Purim would not have been used over and over again for the past hundred years. The best aspects of New Testament such Truth will set you free, Love your enemies and Love one another for Love is God are never applied since we have Zion rulers who love the worst and most negative aspects of the Tanakh/Old Testament.

  430. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/961561/jewish/Positive-Commandment-187.htm

    Very interesting!

    Amalek theme is another lovely concept from the Tanakh/Old Testament. It calls for the genocide of any people that Zionists considered an enemy to Israel firsters. It is also in the noheg l’doros recycle program.

    Amalek has been identified to different peoples in history. For example, with the Armenians, by the Young Turks (largely crypto-Jewish Dönmehs): Source: Elliott Horowitz, Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence, Princeton University Press, 2006, pp. 122–125.

    To all the commenters who relentlessly attack the New Testament. It is a New Testament to reform the Old Testament. If we really had New Testament like rulers, the worst and most negative aspects of the Tanakh, Old Testament such as Seven nations to be destroyed, Amalek or Purim would not have been used over and over again for the past hundred years. The best aspects of New Testament such Truth will set you free, Love your enemies and Love one another for Love is God are never applied since we have Zion rulers who love the worst and most negative aspects of the Tanakh/Old Testament.

    I can agree with that. But still, I wish Marcion would have prevailed over Tertullian!

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Robjil
  431. j2 says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “Uhhhh, ok. I have no idea what you are talking about”

    I went too fast to the conclusions. It is a long deduction to get to these conclusions, suffice to say that I have been interested in the origins of Christianity and studied it for 30 years. As very fast steps in case you are interested, I give the following pointers:
    1. Verify that there is a 6000 year plan in the Bible: 2000 years before the law, 2000 years of the law and 2000 years of messiah, this 6000 years is followed by 1000 years, then the period repeats with other players. These are the times, thus the end of the times. This plan is visible in the ages of the patriarchs, if you use Septuaginta, the times point to Jesus.
    2. Verify that the Revelation matches very well with what Josephus Flavius explains in the Jewish War (check, the city breaks in three, there were three fighting fractions, and so on, I have no time to explain it all, it matches). Thus, the war starting in 66 was understood as the war of the end of the times. The Revelation is not a prophecy, is is a confirmation that Jesus is who he claimed to be. The prophesy in the Revelation is only in the end and it does not change from the prophesies in the OT.
    3. Verify the role of the two messiases, the prophet messiah and the king messiah and identify the king messiah as a Hasmonean. It can only have originally been Herod Agrippa I. Verify also that Maria Magdalena can only be Mariamne II Boethus.
    4. Then take the roles of the messiases and what they have to do. The actions of the prophet messiah are: dead arise, lame walk, ill are cured, the poor folk are told the good message. The role of the prophet messiah is to die for the sins of the people, his people.

    But I know this sounds too cryptic and without any common sense. I cannot explain it in a brief comment. It takes much time and checking to go through it. We disagree, and so it must be. But Christianity become a kind and good religion and quite unlike the suicide cult it originally was.

    • Replies: @Anon
  432. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Levantine

    • Joe: the ideology of the one is diametrically opposed to the other
    • Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.

    Who’s right, you or Jewsus?

    • Joe: The Old Testament is meant for the glory of a race whereas the New Testament is meant for the glory of mankind
    • Jew Testament: The Jew First (Ro. 1:16) The people of Israel, Chosen (Ro. 9:4) Gentiles owe it to the Jews (Ro. 15:27) We are the Circumcision (Phil. 3:3)

    Your creative apologetics of the Jew Testament doesn’t do a very good job of overturning the Jewish supremacy found in the Jew Testament.

    • Joe: Not only there is no duality of the law according to slave or master race classification
    • Rabbi Jewsus: Gentile Dogs eat crumbs from their Jewish Master’s Table set “only” for Jews (Matthew 15.21-28)

    Might want to ask Rabbi Jewsus about that.

    • Joe: culturally incompatible races
    Acts 13:1 Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon the Nigger.

    Then what’s a nigger doing in a leadership position in the first Jew-worship church of Syria, hmm? Because Cuckianity is a nigger-loving, race-mixing religion. Do you call that nigger your “BROTHER?” Even though he’s not, biologically speaking. Cuckianity is a rebellion against Nature.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Joe Levantine
  433. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @j2

    Jew-worshiping Christcuckoldry is still a suicide cult.

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  434. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    hat anon is trying to say :” support OT,otherwise NT will be gone in a whisker ”
    saying :” accept the Jewish supremacy ,accept is as source of salvation, accept that the Jews rule your moral life ,admit that without the blessings of Jews ,your life materially and spiritually won’t be easy won’t be blessed won’t be blossoming ”
    That Anon wants to bring the edifice down .

    This has happened before .Not long ago when the Jews fake pro -American Israelis were caught dancing on Hudson river bank ,the intelligence agency was told in no uncertain terms what would happen to the top echelon – they would be exposed and possibly would be endangered .

    William Safire threatened that the Air Force 1 would be under threat because terrorist had found the code. Safire did this to scare and make sure the attack on muslim countries took place .
    Years ago, Jewish Agency folded and gave birth to AIPAC to avoid investigation as foreign agent But they did that to continue same work under same protection . The Jew agency told American investigators that if they went down ,they would take lot of people from top government and nongovernment positions down . It worked . Anon is making same threat . Find your words and hone your argument well.

    Early Church Fathers did .

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  435. The role of the prophet messiah is to die for the sins of the people, his people.

    That never made much sense to me and I wonder how the original claim really translates.

    To me, it would make much more sense stated, “The role of the prophet messiah is to die because of the sins of the people, his people.”

    It makes more sense because, in many ways both literally and figuratively, to this day many people die, completely or incompletely, because of our sins.

    • Replies: @anon
  436. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Rabbi Jewsus: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”
    anon: “support OT,otherwise NT will be gone in a whisker”

    You’ve accurately interpreted Rabbi Jewsus’ meaning. And yes, the NT is “gone in a whisker” without the Jewish OT fictional characters Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, etc. Have you not read the Jew Testament? It’s nothing without the Old Testament.

    • 1 Corinthians 15:45 The first man Adam
    • Luke 17:26 As it was in the days of Noah
    • Luke 16:22 Abraham‘s bosom
    • Acts 7:22 Moses was educated in all the learning of the Egyptians
    • Revelation 22:16 The root and offspring of David.

  437. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    • Jew Testament: One died for all. 2 Corinthians 5:14
    • Jew Testament: He died for all. 2 Corinthians 5:15
    • Jacques: it would make much more sense stated…because of

    Maybe Christians should just shitcan the whole Jew Testament and re-write the goddam thing in a manner more suitable to their modern tastes. Remove all the 4,105 references to the OT, remove the Jew First garbage, and last but not least, get the fucking prepositions right. LOL

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  438. j2 says:
    @Anon

    “Jew-worshiping Christcuckoldry is still a suicide cult.”

    In a way. But what I meant is that Christianity was redefined by the Imperial Rome to this kind religion we have, which is a religion for people who live their lives here on the earth and try to do good and hope to go the the Heaven after death, but this is a misunderstanding of what Jesus taught. St. Paul for sure understood the real meaning, but explained it differently to gentiles.

    The teaching is that the disciples should be perfect as God is perfect in order to fill the law and redeem the people by their sacrifice. Because the people had disobeyed God and God had punished them, they needed to be redeemed from their sins so that they could regain their promised land. For this they needed a sacrifice, and prophets had told that God does not want their animal sacrifices and their own children, the only satisfactory sacrifice was the prophet Messiah. The time of redemption, that is, the end of the times, the Day of God, was near. It means the rebellion, just as the Revelation describes the Day of God.

    Jesus did not teach the disciples to live in this world, those are not advises you should try to live by. Those were: leave your job, leave your family, do not care for anything material, and follow Jesus to the death, and if you do so, a perfect blameless sacrifice animal rises to the gates of Heaven, so you go to the Heaven. So, turn the other cheek is not told because it would help, it is told because the sacrificed animal should go voluntarily to its death and because the deed would increase the wrath of God against the enemies, that is, Romans. There is nothing kind or good in the teaching of Jesus. His mission was an essential part of the rebellion against Rome. It was a nationalistic war he was to bring, not peace.

    No law was changed, no OT prophesy was changed. There was no new teaching. Good Samaritan was good because he helped a Jew, your neighbor is one who helps you, not everybody. The only law Jesus changed was that a Jew could do good in Sabbath. This is because when Agrippa took Jerusalem Jews fought in Sabbath only for self defense. It was necessary for the Messiah to change this law so that Jews could fight offensively in Sabbath, as they later did in 66-73. This Messiah was the prophet Messiah of the war of 66-73 and a normal Jewish prophet Messiah, not a universal Savior. Only when the Jews lost the war, a new interpretation was found: God has chosen a new promised people, but the OT prophesies were still valid, so wait until the next end of the times.

    • Replies: @anon
  439. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @j2

    You’ve studied well, j2, and you explain in new ways some of the layers of contradictory sayings. I appreciate your comments here. I’ve never understood how Christians can keep a straight face asserting the notion that the Bible is of one monolithic opinion, and the apologies they use to maintain it are the epitome of intellectual dishonesty.

  440. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Fake pro -American Israelis? Yep, that would be every Christcuck, who officially consider themselves a Citizen of Israel.

    • But our Citizenship is in Jewheaven. -Phil. 3:20 (Jewheaven is Jerusalem, Rev. 21:2)
    • So now you Goyim are no longer strangers and foreigners; you are Citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jewpeople. -Ephesians 2:19

    Every Christian has sold out his blood and soil for a “hundredfold” bribe from the Jewish Rabbi Jewsus, payable in a fantastical afterlife. What a deal! Call now to receive your bonus mansion on a gold street in a pearly gated Jewish community!

    • And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. -Matthew 19:29

    • Replies: @anon
  441. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    CanSpeccy: far below replacement fertility rate
    “Woe unto them that are with child.”

    You call me a Jew, yet you are a hater of Christians. Who is more likely to be the Jew?

    As for the dying of the Western nations, that has nothing to do with Christianity, but is the intended consequence of state-mandated, politically correct sex “education”, Hollywood and the porn industry, all of which are primarily Jewish innovations in Western society.

    What your out of context quotations demonstrate is your zero comprehension of the function of the church in Western society, which served the European nations well for a thousand years.

    Here I’ll explain it, not for you, since you are evidently a propagandist with no interest in the truth, but for the benefit of any that may be interested.

    For the people, being a Christian means:

    First, paying for the upkeep of the church and all its priests, i.e., the payment of tithes or the payment of the salaries of the pastor and sexton;

    Second, saying one’s prayers;

    Third, through fear of Hell or in hope of salvation attempting to live in accordance with the commandments.

    Jesus offered essentially nothing new in the way of ethical teaching other than his call to “turn the other cheek”, which was clearly intended only in dealings with one’s own kith and kin, and certainly not the illegal immigrant or the “lesser breeds without the Law.”

    For the state, the Old Testament provides the imperialistic imperative, to go forth and multiply and rule over the nations of the earth, as the Europeans did in the Americas, in Africa and other places too.

    So, no, Christianity was not the genocidal forerunner of the New World Order religion of political correctness. It sustained the Western nations and made them great.

    • Replies: @Anon
  442. Anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    • CanSpeccy: You call me a Jew.
    • Philippians 3:3 For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.

    No, the Jew Testament refers to Christcucks as being Muh Real® Joooz, a term they use themselves.

    Out of context quotes? Nope, they’re not. Trying to hide embarrassing passages from the Bible under the context rug has turned into an internet joke: CONTEXT!!!!!! Learn what context means in a literary sense, instead of abusing the term.

    Europe survived Cuckianity fairly well for hundreds of years, because (1) they neutralized most of the Jew Testament via creative interpretation and “traditions,” (2) banned printing of the Jew Testament, and (3) technology had not yet developed sufficiently to implement the Jew Testament’s globalist ideology. With the Jew Testament in print, and fossil fuels powering the corrosive globalism inside, European culture became doomed.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  443. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    Your problem, Anon, is that you haven’t a clue.

    The biblical texts you keep referring to have no bearing on the social significance of the church.

    Biblical verbiage is irrelevant except inasmuch as it aids in fulfilling the function of the church. For the most part, it would have been far better if the bible had never been translated into the vernacular languages. The Church acted quite correctly in burning Tyndale.

    The church is an institution of civilization. It has a function, and the primary function is to preserve and extend the gene pool of its adherents.

    Think about that for a bit and then tell me whether you really think that America’s wonderful new religion of Political Correctness, which holds that the only sexual vice is reproduction, that divorce should be “no-fault”, that the right not to be offended trumps the truth, that men are indistinguishable from women and should be admitted to the women’s change rooms, is better for the American people than old-fashioned Christianity.

    America is a society in rapid dissolution: overweight, a nation of tweeting egomaniacs incapable of intelligent debate, confident in its own stupidity, contemptuous when not totally ignorant of ancient wisdom.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jacques sheete
  444. Art says:
    @Anon

    Art: “Many Americans have foolishly listened to the Jews…”
    Jew Testament: “Salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22) “The Jew First!” (Romans 1:16)

    So stop foolishly listening to the Jews.

    So stop foolishly listening to the Jews.

    It could not be more clear – Hasbara Central is working to separate Jesus from gentiles.

    Anon 293, 570, 250, 184, 310, and 238 are all on the same theme, that says, “you are stupid to associate with Jesus because he is a Jew that is leading you into servitude.” The gang all use the false word “Jewsus.”

    Jesus’s words formed Christian Western culture (the biggest winner humanity has ever known). Christian “love your neighbor as you love yourself” is anti Talmud hate.

    No matter the words used – when we disassociate ourselves from Christian Western culture we lose – and the Jew Talmuders win.

    Buying into “Jewsus” is for fools.

    Think Peace — Art

  445. Art says:
    @Anon

    • Joe: the ideology of the one is diametrically opposed to the other
    • Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.

    Who’s right, you or Jewsus?

    Oh my — the hate Jesus Hasbara Central attack continues.

    The only human group who really really hate Jesus are Talmuder Jews.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @Seraphim
    , @Robjil
  446. Anon[261] • Disclaimer says:

    Art, you’re a damned liar. No doubt you’ll justify your lying just like the liar Jew Paul did:

    For if the truth of God hath more abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?” (Romans 3:7)

    I’m not a Jew, not “Hasbara,” just a White American. Unz assigns different numbers, apparently randomly. I don’t get it, can’t explain it. I even try to stop it, by signing in the same fictitious email, but it doesn’t help. So you lie like Jew Paul, because lying serves your purpose.

    Lying is typical behavior of Jew-worshipers like you. Especially the ones who wrote the Jew Testament. As this theologian notes about Romans 3:7…

    “There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good.”

    Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, author of Forged: Writing in the Name of God–Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are

    Oh, and you still worship a Jew. lol

  447. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    That claim of common origin or the expression of Judeo Christian won’t work . It did not in 400 AD and in 1400 AD. It did not when Magna Carta was embossed with seal of the little known king of British isle .

    • Replies: @Anon
  448. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Biblical verbiage is irrelevant? Your problem, CanSpeccy , is that you haven’t a clue. Rabbi Jewsus and Jew Paul clearly didn’t want their followers reproducing, or concerned about any of the normal, natural cares of this world. E.g.:

    • “Woe unto them that are with child.” (Matthew 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23)
    • “Blessed are the childless women.” (Luke 23:29)
    • “It is better not to marry!” (Matthew 19:10)
    • “Choose to live like eunuchs…the one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19:12)
    • “Hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters.” (Luke 14:26)
    • “Forsake houses…wife, children.” (Matthew 19:29)
    • “Neither marry nor be given in marriage.” (Matthew 22:30)
    • “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” (1 Corinthians 7:1)
    • “Stay unmarried.” (1 Corinthians 7:8)

    Eric Hoffer in his text “The True Believer” notes several more Jew Testament passages that are anti-family, as follows:

    Still, not one of our contemporary movements was so outspoken in its antagonism toward the family as was early Christianity. Jesus minced no words: “For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me.” When He was told that His mother and brothers were outside desiring to speak with Him He said: “Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother, and my brethren!” When one of His disciples asked leave to go and bury his father, Jesus said to him: “Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.” He seemed to sense the ugly family conflicts His movement was bound to provoke both by its proselytizing and by the fanatical hatred of its antagonists. “And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.”

    Eric Hoffer (1951) The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements. Harper. Section #32.

    Europe survived in spite of—not because of—the fanatical mass movement that is Cuckianity.

  449. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Oh my, Art’s Hatefest attack continues on non-subservient Whites who don’t worship and kowtow to his Magical Jewish Rabbi, a Rabbi who was quite popular in the Jewish Synagogues according to the Jew Testament:

    Jewsus taught regularly in Jewish Synagogues and was praised by every Jew. (Luke 4:15)

    Do you think the Jews in the Jewish Synagogues praised Jewsus so much because he was so anti-Gentile? (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25) I bet they really liked hearing how the evil White Patriarchy was sooooo bad.

    • Replies: @Art
  450. @anon

    …and last but not least, get the fucking prepositions right.

    Keep laughing, but you got that backward; i.e., get the fucking prepositions correct first. You did, however, redeem yourself somewhat by adding, “but not least.”

    PS:Read your comment again. One could be forgiven for thinking it was an attempt to kill something.

    • Replies: @Anon
  451. @CanSpeccy

    Your problem, Anon, is that you haven’t a clue.

    She’s too busy spouting inanities to notice.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @CanSpeccy
  452. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Art: The only human group who really really hate Jesus are Talmuder Jews.

    Another lie. Quite the habit of yours, Art.

    Cuckianity is an invasive Empire religion that was resisted violently by indigenous Europeans. Have you never heard of the Northern Crusdades?

    “…religious wars undertaken by Catholic Christian military orders and kingdoms, primarily against the pagan Baltic, Finnic and West Slavic peoples around the southern and eastern shores of the Baltic Sea… took place mostly in the 12th and 13th centuries and resulted in the subjugation and forced baptism of indigenous peoples.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades

    The earlier Vikings were also an anti-Christian refugee phenomenon, fleeing to the northern lands, and raiding the Jew-worshiping invaders.

    You violent Jew-worshipers treat the indigenous peoples of Europe with the same contempt that Jews treat the indigenous peoples of Palestine.

  453. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    You do make a fine little editor with your grammar nitpicking, and all on the cheap. Can you make me some coffee too, like a good secretary also does?

  454. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    • Romans 1:16 The Jew First.
    • John 4:22 Salvation is from the Jews.
    • Romans 15:27 Gentiles owe it to the Jews.
    • Anon: the expression of Judeo Christian won’t work

    Why won’t it? The term perfectly describes the Jewish Supremacism expressed by the Jewish authors of the Jew Testament; Jew-worshiping Gentile Christcucks are submissive second-raters throughout the Jew Testament. You are pathetic bitches begging for crumbs from your Jewmaster’s table, and Jewsus explicitly said so in Matthew 15:21-28.

  455. Robjil says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Yes, Marcion saw the great problem with the Old Testament in 140 AD. This is just a hundred years after Jesus’s death. Marcion is cited as the first person who put together a canon of the New Testament. There was a chance in the beginning of Christianity to throw out the Old Testament. Ironically, the present French president has a name with the same consonants – Macron and Marcion.

    http://www.marcion.info/

    He was the first person to put together a Christian canon.

    “Christians like to tell us that Marcion changed the Bible to suit his theology. However it appeared to me from the beginning that before Marcion there was no documented history of Christianity as we know it. So for example there are no reliable historical contemporary accounts of Paul, Peter, Luke, Mark or even the Jesus that we think of today. Likewise archaeological New Testament fragments have been dated starting around 190 AD, again consistent with the first New Testament being written 140 AD.”

    Marcion created the first canon of Christian writings. Christianity was at a good start with its dumping of the Old Testament. Sadly, Marcion’s ideas were not followed by the early church. He was considered a heretic.

    “Marcion wrote the first canon of the New Testament in AD 140. For centuries Marcion has been maligned as a heretic, since the Church Fathers like Tertullian accused him of taking the razor to the Bible and cutting out several of the Pauline epistles; Acts, 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus. In addition the only Gospel in Marcion’s Bible is two thirds of Luke. Actually that’s it. One Gospel and ten Pauline epistles, which means no Revelations and no Old Testament.”

    You are right about Wesley Clark. He is deeply involved in all the Zion games. He thought the Amalek like bombing of civilians in Yugoslavia was OK. Just like Mad Albright’s saying that the Amalek like sanctions on Iraq which caused 50000 Iraqi children to die was OK.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166

    Here is his Amalek like thinking about the bombing of a Serb TV station.

    “No, I don’t regret that at all. That was part of the Serb command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to target Serb Radio and Television.”

    Clark almost started WWIII in his attack on Yugoslavia. He is obviously a Zion warmonger at heart. His give away of the Seven nations to destroy theme was a deception game. He gave a little info what he and the Zion rulers are doing to the masses. If the masses don’t react, then they are dumb sheep and thus not worthy of respect.

    Here is how he almost started a WWIII for Zion’s goals.

    https://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras12.html

    “General Clark wrote about his fury upon learning that Russian peacekeepers had entered the airport at Pristina, Kosovo, before British or American forces. In the article “The guy who almost started World War III,” (Aug. 3, 1999), The Guardian (U.K.) wrote, “No sooner are we told by Britain’s top generals that the Russians played a crucial role in ending the West’s war against Yugoslavia than we learn that if NATO’s supreme commander, the American General Wesley Clark, had had his way, British paratroopers would have stormed Pristina airport, threatening to unleash the most frightening crisis with Moscow since the end of the Cold War.”

    “I’m not going to start the third world war for you,” General Sir Mike Jackson, commander of the international KFOR peacekeeping force, is reported to have told Gen. Clark when he refused to accept an order to send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the airfield of Kosovo’s provincial capital. “

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  456. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    > “The biblical texts you keep referring to have no bearing on the social significance of the church.”

    But that assertion is not spouting inanities?

    Jew-worshiping Christcucks (both Protestant and Catholic) build altars upon which they place the Bible. Apparently you or CanSpeccy have not been to church—ever. A large, ornate Bible displayed on an altar is extremely difficult to miss. Do you two live on Mars or something? Because then you’d have an excuse for your utter ignorance.

    But, all you’re doing is concocting desperate lies to counter my devastating Jewish Supremacist quotes from the Jew Testament. Lies like the Hillary camp’s grievance about Russia, Russia, Russia. You’re that dishonest. And you’re as pissed at me winning the argument as Hillary is Trump winning the 2016 election. But at least you know intimately how Hillary feels; there’s always something to learn, isn’t there? 🙂

  457. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    She’s too busy spouting inanities to notice.

    A crazy female? Possible I suppose, but the combination of antisemitism, Christaphobia, and violent ideation is an unusual combination. Could be simply a New World Order propagandist.

    Judaism is obviously deeply nationalistic and Christianity as practiced in Europe since the Middle Ages has also been quite consistent with the nationalistic aspirations of the European peoples. The New World Order, however, requires an end to the nation state, hence Political Correctness. So our Anonymous detractor seems well qualified as a NWO activist and provocateur.

    Thye stuff abut Christian submission to Jews is of course rubbish. Christians have supplanted the Jews who failed to follow the Messiah.

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    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  458. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    Your mentioning Kosovo reminds me that partisan fighter Brenton Tarrant played the “Serbia Strong” song while driving to the Al Noor Mosque in New Zealand.

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    , @anon
    , @anon
  459. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    CanSpeccy: Thye [sic] stuff abut [sic] Christian submission to Jews is of course rubbish.

    This rubbish?

    Old Testmant Jewgod: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. (Isaiah 45:23)

    Jew Testament Jewgod: Every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge Jewgod. (Romans 14:11, quoting directly from Isaiah 45:23)

    The claims that everybody, Christcucks included—they think their craven submission to Jewgod is the greatest thing since sliced bread— is going to bow to the Jewgod. Jewish Supremacism is inside the pages of both the Old Testament and the Jew Testament, saying exactly the same thing.

    (Your sophomoric insults are actually better than your specious theological arguments. My feelings are so hurt. LOL 🙂 )

  460. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    A crazy female? It’s ironic that you’re using crazed femininity as an insult, when the crazy symbol of Christcuckery is a Vagina.

    AND, aren’t you going to be a Bride of Christ? Enjoy consummating that marriage to your swarthy Jewish Rabbi husband! Don’t forget, you’ll have to SUBMIT like a bitch to your Jewhusband.

    Christcucks in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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    , @Seraphim
  461. Art says:
    @Anon

    Anon(201),

    “Jewsus”

    To live to besmirch the name of the most important human to have ever lived, takes a twisted mind. (One of your own too.) Is that sick or what?

    How is it all you little Jew Anons are twisted alike – is there something in your youth that compels you’ll to be so grossly mendacious? You appear to be little lemmings.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Jesus authored the Sermon on the Mount – Jews the Talmud – as different as day is to night.

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  462. Robjil says:
    @Anon

    The war on Yugoslavia was practice for the war on the Muslim world – seven nations to destroy. Yugoslavia, a country the size of Romania, was divided into seven pieces. Why? It was the creator of non-aligned nations. The US/Israel want a one world government with them as the lead. Non-align nations is so 2oth century. It is ironic that Yugoslavia was divided into seven pieces. The next game was seven again – destroy seven nations after the nine eleven false flag.

    https://off-guardian.org/2016/03/01/natos-full-spectrum-war-against-yugoslavia-demonization-of-serbs-was-key/

    “Milosevic’s famous speeches of 1987 and 1989 weren’t nationalistic — despite the lies to the contrary, both speeches called for tolerance of all “nations” within Yugoslavia. He also never sought a “Greater Serbia,” but rather tried to maintain a unified Yugoslavia, and when this failed — with the active assistance of the NATO powers — he tried, only fitfully, to allow stranded Serb minorities to stay within Yugoslavia or join Serbia, a matter of obvious “self-determination” that NATO granted to Kosovo Albanians and everybody but Serbs (for documentation on these points, see this Monthly Review article I co-authored with David Peterson in October, 2007).”

  463. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    Marcion’s attempted dumping of the Old Testament is impossible with 4,105* direct quotes and references from the Old Testament included in the Jew Testament. (A scholarly reference for the 4,105 figure is included in comment #211.)

    To be rid of the Jewish poison in one’s religion, one also has to dump the Jew Testament.

    To have a nationalist religion, a nation must worship a God whose official Seat (i.e., Capital) is within that nation’s Land. The Seat of God cannot be located far-off in some foreign land’s capital like Jerusalem (or Mecca,) otherwise you become subservient to that foreign capital.

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  464. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Jewsus is a Jew, a Rabbi (Mark 5:35, Mark 14:45, John 1:38, John 3:2, John 20:16) who taught in the Jewish Synagogues and was quite popular with the Jews. (Luke 4:15) You keep denying that simple fact, and my reminding you of the fact that Jewsus is a Jew is causing you extreme cognitive dissonance, since you seem to have never cracked open the Jew Testament. (They’re free to read courtesy of the Gideons in many hotels; avail yourself.) And it’s hilarious that you think that Jew is an insult, when the Jew Testament says things like: “The Jew First,” (Romans 1:16) and “Salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22) Your salvation originates from people whose name you consider an insult, and you’re starting to sound pretty unhinged.

    P.S. Above, I previously tested a post above using “Jesus” and not using the term “Jewsus” in response to you, but you only responded yet more aggressively in your insults. Jewsus wept.

  465. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    • Talmud: “The measure which one measures will be measured out to him.” (Sanhedrin 100a)
    • Jew Testament: “The measure you give will be the measure you get.” (Matthew 7:2)

    And there are many more examples of Jewsus and the Talmud saying exactly the same thing. Must have both been written by…Jews! So go ahead, mention that Talmud again, Art. 🙂

    • Replies: @j2
  466. j2 says:
    @Anon

    “And there are many more examples of Jewsus and the Talmud saying exactly the same thing. Must have both been written by…Jews!”

    There is reason to think that Jesus was Essene, also called Jessenes and Nasareans, and probaly the same as nasozeans, i.e., Mandeans, a Gnostic group, the followers of John the Baptist. If so, Jesus was not a Pharisee, which is derived either from separated, or the theory I prefer, Parsis, Jews from Persia with the angelic doctrine.

    The story of Jesus is in Zechariah, that is, Jesus was trying to realize the prophesies of OT and Zechariah is the most detailed. You take the place where God’s servant is paid 30 silver coins, the price equivalent of a sacrificed man, that has always been associated with Jesus (Zech 11:13). Then continue, the high priests of that time are condemned and are to die (Zech 11:15-17), then all nations (Rome) attacks Jerusalem, in the coming war. The princes of Juda (the 12 disciples) burn like torches. Paul explains it, before the Day of God Christians are lifted up to the air and shine. Paul discussed with Nero and Nero did indeed burn Christians in stakes to be in the air and shine like torches. And the House of David (Hasmoneans for the Essenes, there were no desendants of David) will be like God, like an angel of God.

    Compare it with Hasmonean Herod Agrippa I, he dressed in a shiny armor and a voice was heard that he is not human, then he was killed, probably by Romans. Herod Agrippa I, from the House of David (Hasmonean, the rebellion fraction of them), the whose birth was told by the star of Bethlehem (Halley’s Comet of 12 BC), a son of Bethlehem (=Hasmoneans) whom Herod the Great tried to kill, was to be the king Messiah. He started building the wall around Jerusalem, but Claudius understood what it meant. Notice, Herod Agrippa was a friend of Caligula and almost certainly he suggested that Caligula should place his statue, the abomination of desolation, to the temple. It was to fulfill the prophesies before the Day of God. But Herod Agrippa I was killed. Paul, who was related to Herod, tried to over-speak Herod Agrippa II to be the king Messiah, this is told in the Acts, but Herod Agrippa I declined. Therefore I am quite sure the intended king Messiah in 66 was Josephus Flavius, because he was the commander of Galilea, the main rebel stronghold, and he transferred the title of Messiah to Vespasian, and Jewish Rabbis agreed. Only the original Messiah could transfer the title to a non-Jew so that Rabbis accepted it. The King Messiah is the helper of the people that Jesus will send, who cannot come before the sacrifice.

    But back to Zechariah, there is the war soon after the prophet Messiah is sacrificed, as he must be, read Zech 12:10, the one they have pierced, it is a reference to Isaiah of God’s servant whose hands and legs are pierced, so he is crucified. And the Holy spirit is sent in 12:10 over the house of David and the people of Jerusalem, as is told in the Acts of sending the spirit.

    And see what was to happen in the war: the first stage is lost (Zech 14:2), Jerusalem is conquered, and from Daniel we know that the temple is destroyed, but then God goes to the war (Zech 14:3) and destroys the pagans and Jews get all riches of all people (Zech 14:14) and enslaves them, just like every OT end ot the times prophesy says. Essenes wrote a scroll of the war of the sons of light against the sons of darkness. The first stage to sons of light lose, but, though the end is missing, we can be sure that in the end they win.

    All of this mission of Jesus is Essene reading of the OT, not pharisee. Pharisees were the collaborators with Romans. They developed to Talmudic Rabbis, so that was never anything than collaborators and betrayers of Jewish nationalists. Many famous Kabbalists accepted Jesus. For instance, Jacob Frank wrote that Jesus had the right to the name Son of God. Kabbalism is close to the original religion of Jews around Jesus times and Jesus, the miracle maker, was a B’aal Shem, every B’aal Shem can become the Messiah, and in original Judaism there are two Messiahs (or three to match with Moses, Aaron and Miriam).

    Two sons of Judah of Galilee were executed at the same time the Acts tells that apostle James the Greater as executed. This is probably the same event. Bar Kokhba must have been in some way connected to the mission of Jesus, though this is not known from documents. Eisenman in one of his texts suggests Bar Kokhba was a descendant of the family of Jesus, but I think he may have been a descendant of Judah of Galilee. It is clear that the Judaizers from James the brother of Jesus that St. Paul tells of were Zealots of Judah of Galilee, Sicario later in the war.

    Christians have understood the words of Jesus incorrectly, but Talmudic Jews have understood their own religion totally incorrectly, the Talmudic version is what Romans accepted after the wars, so it is a propaganda version. Clearly they must hate Jesus, who was the prophet Messiah of the upraising against Romans. The Pharisees displaced the priests (Saddukees) and the popular religious leaders (Essenes, Zealots) and set up a version of Judaism that was false and propaganda form the very beginning.

  467. Seraphim says:
    @Art

    Art,
    You got it right! It is typical for hasbaratciks to use the pretended antisemitic language of the Holywood ‘Nazis’.

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  468. @Anon

    “• Rabbi Jewsus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”
    You could always build on an old foundation and bury it. Pretty much what Christians did to the South American temples and religions after the European colonial take over.

    • Jew Testament: The Jew First (Ro. 1:16) The people of Israel, Chosen (Ro. 9:4) Gentiles owe it to the Jews (Ro. 15:27) We are the Circumcision (Phil. 3:3)

    The Jew first because the need to redeem the Jew is far more pressing than to redeem the gentiles since Jews are more lost then the rest of humankind. The German Foster put it more on the spot by stating that the light of the world decided to come where there is the greatest darkness meaning the old Israel.

    ” The people of Israel, chosen” / Gentiles owe it to the Jews” It is not meant for the Israel of the scribes and the Pharisees but the new universal Israel that is the new church of God and the Jew who converted to Christianity.

    ” We are the circumcision” let us take into consideration what the apostle Paul preached about this law of the circumcision; he totally rejected the idea of the other apostles about the Jewish law. Paul is the most prominent apostle because he rid himself of the yoke of the Jewish law and insisted that all nations can be Christians without adhering to the ‘ law’.

    “• Joe: Not only there is no duality of the law according to slave or master race classification
    • Rabbi Jewsus: Gentile Dogs eat crumbs from their Jewish Master’s Table set “only” for Jews (Matthew 15.21-28)”

    I have no comment on this one but all I can say is that it contradicts all the preaching of Paul the apostle. If there is no hidden meaning in this, editing of the New Testament in this case is warranted.

    ” Joe: culturally incompatible races
    Acts 13:1 Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon the Nigger.”

    Here allow me to disagree with you about the mixing of races because of African blacks serving the congregation. If Simeon was if a Nordic race, would that make him more suitable to serve the Church of Antioch.

    I appreciate the depth of your knowledge which must have been based on elaborate and time consuming research, but I hope that you seek reconciliation with Christianity rather than outright demolition.

  469. What’s a neocon, Dad? It is the ziofascists. Interviews with Mark Bruzonsky

    How Zionism Infiltrated The United States.

    US Government Hostage to Israel? |

    ‘Let’s not take Trump at his word’ – Analyst on Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital

    Interview with Scholar and Journalist, Mark Bruzonsky. Mark Bruzonsky, a Jewish, American Scholar and Journalist, has been a key member behind the scenes of the Israeli Palestinian peace initiative in the 1980s, meeting with Former Egyptian President Anwar Sadat and with Palestinian officials. In this exclusive interview with Press TV’s Autograph, Mr. Bruzonsky talks about the challenges and missed opportunities he witnessed first-hand, and how Zionist groups infiltrated American politics, US institutions and organizations. He goes further to explain the specific time and day Obama sold out to the AIPAC lobby, and how President Obama would never dare oppose the stronghold of the Zionist, Israeli Lobby in the US.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mark+Bruzonsky

  470. Seraphim says:
    @Joe Levantine

    That’s why I am saying you never attended an Orthodox service.

  471. Art says:
    @Anon

    Bye Bye (201),

    Man – you are just to crude – send in one your hasbara Anon brothers 293, 570, 250, 184, 310, or 238.

    Art

    p.s. Momma Anon is something else – all boys?

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  472. Ohhhh no, not more foolishness. Laughing.

    The response is to christians not harbor any ill will against the Jews concerning Christ’s death. And it is accurate that jews bore the brunt of faith and thought they rejected it, should in some manner be honored if in need. But that same admonition is made among christians to christians.

    It’s a so what and makes perfect sense.

    ———————————-

    J2,

    I am not ignoring your comments. I am just not posting or making every effort to avoid it. Wow, you are mixing a lot of secular and incorrect ideas about Jesus, christian history and secular history.

    Jesus was not out to take down Rome.

    A lot of people including scholars have attempted to make not of the exact history of events to the future – end times. Christ notes the signs and adds, but that is not even the end.

    Our walk as is clear all throughout scripture is to walk with christ. That walk should be in accordance with faith, seeking forgiveness, serving one another in faith, taking care of family, church and sharing the Gospel. We are to be very vigilant and ever mindful of the end, but hardly obsessed by it. Whether the process outlined on scripture will take a another ten years or a ten million years is unknown to me.

    And in my view has no bearing on one’s faith and practice in my view. I am ever reminded of Paul’s admonition after he was involved in a riot.

    “From that point on I determined to preach nothing but Christ, crucified, buried and resurrected and by him one has eternal life.”

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  473. @EliteCommInc.

    A walk with Christ is first and foremost a spiritual and personal one.

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  474. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Jew-worship is becoming too embarrassing for male warriors. Your being triggered over perceived violence from a cartoon superhero character and having a feminine meltdown is a great example of the limp-wristed submission to the Jew. Triggered like Trigglypuff you are! What else can one expect from a man who wants to be a Bride of a Jewish Rabbi?

    Russian solders, who have access to the allegedly less cucked Orthodox church, are turning to their ancestors’ pre-Christcuck worship of ancestral Gods:

    Russian Special Forces Are Turning to Paganism, Church Warns
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/06/08/Russian-Special-Forces-Are-Turning-to-Paganism-Church-Warns-a61729

    Perhaps they’re re-learning what my European ancestors thought of cowardly, lily-livered Christcuckery:

    The term for “White Christ” or Hvítakristr came into currency among the heathen Icelanders at the time when pagan and Christian religions were in conflict…To call a man hvítr was to say that he was cowardly, effeminate…A related phrase was to say, “your liver is white” meaning again, a coward… which is almost identical to modern English usage, “lily-livered” with the same meaning.

    Why did the Vikings call Jesus the White [Lily-Livered] Christ?
    http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/hvitkrst.shtml

    At least the Seat of their God(s) won’t be in some far off foreign (Jewish) land in the middle-east.

    Gonna be triggered again by a drawing of Chad Pagan’s spear, Christfag?

  475. @Robert Dolan

    GENTILES IN HALACHA

    Foreword — Daat Emet

    [MORE]

    For a long time we have been considering the necessity of informing our readers about Halacha’s real attitude towards non-Jews. Many untrue things are publicized on this issue and the facts should be made clear. But recently, we were presented with a diligently written article on the subject, authored by a scholar from the Merkaz HaRav yeshiva — so our job was done by others (though we have already discussed some aspects of this issue in the weekly portions of Balak and Matot; see there). Since there is almost no disagreement between us and the author of the article on this issue, we have chosen to bring the article “Jews Are Called ‘Men’” by R’ David Bar-Chayim (in Hebrew) so that the reader will be able to study and understand the attitude of the Halacha towards non-Jews.
    In this article R’ Bar-Chayim discusses the attitude towards “Gentiles” in the Torah and in the Halacha and comes to an unambiguous conclusion:

    “The Torah of Israel makes a clear distinction between a Jew, who is defined as ‘man,’ and a Gentile.”

    That is to say, any notion of equality between human beings is irrelevant to the Halacha. R’ Bar-Chayim’s work is comprehensive, written with intellectual honesty, and deals with almost all the aspects of Halachic treatment of non-Jews. It also refutes the statements of those rabbis who speak out of wishful thinking and, influenced by concepts of modern society, claim that Judaism does not discriminate against people on religious grounds. R’ Bar-Chayim shows that all these people base their constructs not on the Torah but solely on the inclinations of their own hearts. He also shows that there are even rabbis who intentionally distort the Halachic attitude to Gentiles, misleading both themselves and the general public.

    For the English readers’ convenience we will briefly mention the topics dealt with in R’ Bar-Chayim’s article:

    1. Laws in regard to murder, which clearly state that there is Halachic difference between murder of a Jew and of a Gentile (the latter is considered a far less severe crime).

    2. A ban on desecrating the Sabbath to save the life of a Gentile.

    3. A Jew’s exemption from liability if his property (e. g. ox) causes damage to a Gentile’s property. But if a Gentile’s property causes damage to a Jew’s property, the Gentile is liable.

    4. The question of whether robbery of a Gentile is forbidden by the Torah’s law or only by a Rabbinic decree.

    5. A ban on returning a lost item to a Gentile if the reason for returning it is one’s sympathy towards the Gentile and compassion for him.

    6. The sum which a Gentile overpays in a business transaction due to his own error is forfeit; whether a Jew is permitted to intentionally deceive a Gentile is also discussed.

    7. One who kidnaps a Jew is liable to death, but one who kidnaps a Gentile is exempt.

    8. A Jew who hurts or injures a Gentile is not liable for compensation of damage, but a Gentile who hurts a Jew is liable to death.

    9. One who overcharges a Gentile ought not return him the sum that the Gentile overpaid.

    10. A Gentile — or even a convert to Judaism — may not be appointed king or public official of any sort (e. g. a cabinet minister).

    11. One who defames a female proselyte (claiming that she was not virgin at the time of her marriage) is liable to neither lashes nor fine.

    12. The prohibition to hate applies only to Jews; one may hate a Gentile.
    13. One may take revenge against or bear a grudge towards Gentiles; likewise, the commandment “love your neighbor” applies only to Jews, not to Gentiles.
    14. One who sees Gentile graveyards should curse: “Your mother shall be greatly ashamed…”

    15. Gentiles are likened to animals.

    16. If an ox damaged a Gentile maidservant, it should be considered as though the ox damaged a she-ass.
    17. The dead body of a Gentile does not bear ritual impurity, nor does a Gentile who touches the dead body of a Jew become impure — he is considered like an animal who touched a dead body.
    18. One is forbidden to pour anointing oil on a Jew, but there is no ban on pouring that oil on a Gentile because Gentiles are likened to animals.
    19. An animal slaughtered by a Gentile is forbidden, even if the ritual slaughter performed was technically correct, because Gentiles are deemed like animals. (Daat Emet does not agree that this is the Halachic reason for invalidating a Gentile’s ritual slaughter — but this is not the place to delve into the subject).
    20. Their members are like those of asses” — Gentiles are likened to animals.
    21. Between the Jews and the Gentiles — In the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and in Jewish Thought

    R’ Bar-Chayim’s arguments and conclusions are clear, Halachically accurate, and supported by almost all the existent major Halachic works. It would be superfluous to say that R’ Bar-Chayim fully embraces this racist Halachic outlook as the word of the Living G-d, as he himself pointed out in the “Conclusion” of his article: “It is clear to every Jew who accepts the Torah as G-d’s word from Sinai, obligatory and valid for all generations, that it is impossible to introduce ‘compromises’ or ‘renovations’ into it.”
    On the other hand, we want to make it clear that Daat Emet — as well as any reasonable people who do not embrace Halachic laws as the word of the Living G-d — are repulsed by such evil, racist discrimination.
    In the Hebrew text we have abridged the second part of R’ Bar-Chayim’s article, “Between Jews and Gentiles — In the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and in Jewish Thought,” because, in our view, the Halacha is the law which obligates every religious Jew while concepts of the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and Jewish thought are not binding on anyone, as our rabbis have already written: “And so the Aggadic constructs of the disciples of disciples, such as Rav Tanchuma and Rabbi Oshaya and their like — most are incorrect, and therefore we do not rely on the words of Aggadah” (Sefer HaEshkol, Laws of a Torah Scroll, p. 60a); we have expanded on this issue in the portion of Vayeshev.
    http://www.come-and-hear.com

    GOOGLE:
    THE JEWS ARE CALLED MEN
    Tzfi’a 3
    THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEWS AND GENTILES IN TORAH
    Rabbi David Bar Chaim
    Yeshivat Mercaz HaRav

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  476. Robjil says:
    @Art

    Yes, this person attacks Jesus. Jesus is not the problem. We have separation of Church and State everywhere in the western world. The western world does not have separation Synagogue and State though. Anything that counters Synagogue and State is considered “anti-Semitic”. The west is largely secularized from Christianity. So why does this person attack Jesus so much?

    He should attack the number games from our Synagogue and State rulers.

    http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html

    The concept of Guzma, rabbinical exaggeration is common device by the Synagogue and State. We see it all the time in our “free press”. The six number is a common Guzma theme.

    “The Rabbinical Exaggeration or ‘Guzma’ is a common device employed by jewish religious writers and authorities; both past and present, and finds common utilization in the Babylonian Talmud for example. (1) Its origins lie in the unusual and exaggerated tales told by rabbinical authorities in the Mishnah and Gemara to make a specific point: so if say Maimonides had been speaking to Nachmanides they might use a guzma to make a point of scale.”

    The Guzma six number has been used over and over again for the six million question of WWII. 600000 Israelites came out of Egpyt in the Exodus to go to ancient Israel. Multiple by ten and a new Exodus to Israel in order to get Israel back in 1948. Number ten is the Tree of Life, Sefirot, the ten aspects of Yahweh.

    “Now if understand this then the use of a common rabbinical device for expressing the scale of an event that was not meant to be taken literally; i.e. a guzma, that would have be normal to those using it, but which was instead taken literally by those receiving the message. We can see that the rabbis tried to make the number so absurd; i.e. 600,000 Israelites out of Egypt multiplied by 10 to make 6 million (meant to be read as; simply, ‘all the jews’ rather than as a statistic), that whoever read it would immediately understand that they were using a guzma to express numerical scale in the Shoah events they were describing.”

    Tbe Guzma number six has also been used in the nine eleven false flag. Look at any site for the numbers killed and injured in nine eleven. The number injured is always 6000. Why not 600o and one or 5999?

    Here the author talks about the 6000 injured from nine eleven attack and adds another 6 game. He states that six sports figures died in the nine eleven false flag. The Guzma number six again.

    https://guardianlv.com/2016/09/6-athletes-killed-911-attacks/

    “The 9/11 attacks that shook the United States killed almost 3,000 people and injured 6,000 others. The consequences of the terrorist acts spread worldwide. Although 15 years passed, the pain is still intense. The United States will never forget both the victims and the attacks that took them away.
    Six Sports Figures Died in the 9/11 Attacks.”

    • Replies: @Anon
  477. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Naming the Jew upsets Jews and gets them spouting the term “anti-semetic” and “Nazi.” And now, naming the Jewsus upsets Jew-worshipers gets them spouting the term “anti-semetic” and “Nazi.” Truly you Christcucks are the Circumcision.

  478. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    • Luke 4:15: Jewsus taught regularly in their Synagogues and was praised by everyJew.
    • Acts 22:19 I went from one Synagogue to another to imprison and beat those who believe in Jewsus.
    • Robjil: He should attack the number games from our Synagogue and State rulers.

    I am. You’re welcome.

  479. Robjil says:
    @Gerald Goldberg

    We have a Synagogue and State thing going on for a long time in western world. The end game, as this Rabbi states, will not be good Gentiles.

    There are many examples of this slow march to Zion. Notice the many offices buildings with the number 666 displayed on them without any fear outrage. Jared Kushner has this number on his building in NYC. 666 represents Judaism in its messainic age. This is quite odd, since Christians have the opposite viewpoint of 666, as it being something against God and goodness.

    https://www.betemunah.org/six.html

    “666 is six repeated three times. Repeating a concept three times represents the affirmation and strength of that concept. The number 666 could thus represent the strength and perfection of the physical world, which Judaism teaches will occur in the messianic era, when the physical world will reach its ultimate purpose, to be a vehicle through which the created experience the Creator.”
     

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  480. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    Jews, Jew-worshipers, Luv-Jew-Long-Time, what’s the difference?

    Located at 666 Filbert Street…Saints Peter and Paul has also become the home church for the city’s Chinese-American Roman Catholic population, offering weekly masses in Italian, Cantonese
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Peter_and_Paul_Church,_San_Francisco


    Matthew 2:2 “We saw his star in the Orient!”
    http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/

  481. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Jew-worshiping snowflake thinks the symbol of Jewsus is “crude?” Then why don’t you go through the the church parking lots today and rip off all the “crude” Jesus signs on peoples’ cars? Or better yet, replace them with the “Darwin” or “Evolve” signs with the legs sprouting from the fish symbol! 🙂

    You flounce, but you’ll be back.

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  482. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCon: Jesus was not out to take down Rome.
    Antifa Jewsus: If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)

    …the Gospels a great amount of material which points precisely in the direction of a seditious Jesus…

    Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance
    Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus 12(1-2):1-105 · November 2014
    DOI: 10.1163/17455197-01202001

    Nothing much has changed with the Jews in 2000 years. They (1) move into a place, then (2) try to subvert it. Same today as it was with the Hellenized Jewish storytellers who wrote the Jew Testament in Greek. Subversion of the host culture.

  483. Robjil says:

    The Jewish is year is now is 5779. According to some Zionists the world will exist for only 6000 years. It is only 21 years to the magic 6000.

    https://www.betemunah.org/six.html

    “Finally, the world in its current state will exist for six thousand years:

    Sanhedrin 97a The Tanna debe Eliyyahu teaches: The world is to exist six thousand years. In the first two thousand there was desolation;[1] two thousand years the Torah flourished;[2] and the next two thousand years is the Messianic era[3], but through our many iniquities all these years have been lost.”

    Is that the reason for the mad rush to conquer the entire middle east for Zion by US/Israel?

  484. ” Romans 15:27 Gentiles owe it to the Jews.”

    I addition what that scripture does not say is that christians must do everything Jews or Israel wants. Providing material support did not include breaking the law.

    ———————
    “Jesus was not out to take down Rome.” Luke 22:36

    Uhhhhh, hmmmmmm, ohhh boy that’s a hard one . . . gee golly wow shucks . . . .

    Jesus was sending the Apostles on a mission trip, Their first, and preparing they would need some dough and guess what perhaps something for defense against lions, tigers and bears, ohh my.

    It has nothing to do with attacking Rome. You might want to read the surrounding passages for some context about what is going on regarding the particular verses your carelessly tossing about. Now I am bit more cautious when it comes to self defense against thieves and what nots. But most believers indicate it also includes self defense against people. It would not be unheard of to enter hostile spaces, where one might need defense.

    But clearly there is no mandate to go and attack Rome or prepare for an attack against Rome.

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  485. Additional reference material:

    https://www.studylight.org/commentary/luke/22-36.html

    https://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/luke_22_36.htm

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-Luke-22-36?share=1

    No doubt you will jump back
    to the verses where Christ says if someone asks for you coat, give him two, asks to walk a mile, walk two, etc.

    The optimum word here is “asks” it is here that many attempt call Christ a hypocrite — not so and neither are christians who engage in self defense against harm or theft. Neither or which represent requests for assistance.

    . . . and to be clear providing Israel with a means of self defense – fine. Sup[porting offensive attacks on others in the name of defense is quite another matter. Ignoring international is another matter.

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    , @Anon
  486. @EliteCommInc.

    correction:

    . . . and to be clear providing Israel with a means of self defense – fine. Supporting offensive attacks on others in the name of defense is quite another matter. Ignoring and violating international law is another matter.

    It’s akin to using the “good samaritan” passage to justify harboring, hiring or any way aiding and abetting illegal immigrants. That is not what the story/parable of the Good Samaritan mandates at all. It in no manner condones violating laws that prevent faith and practice and our immigration laws do not.

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  487. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You perceive your Salvationist belief as “a personal one.” You may find interesting Daniel Quinn’s text, The Story of B, in which he explains how Salvation cults appealed to the atomized individual. “Nobody can save you but you, and there’s nobody you can save but yourself.”

    Daniel Quinn (1996) “The Story of B” pp. 258-259
    http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/frog.htm
    (The relevant portion of Quinn’s Boiling Frog essay within the book, describing the origin of Christianity, is under the subheading “Signs of distress: 0-1200 C.E.”)

  488. j2 says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “Wow, you are mixing a lot of secular and incorrect ideas about Jesus, christian history and secular history.”

    If this is how you think, then so it must be. I can only show the way to the truth of this matter, but to take the way is everybody’s own choice. I will not try to convince you, you will learn later, or not.

  489. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: violating international law
    • Revelation 19:15: Smite the nations, and he shall rule them with a rod of iron.

    So much for for your ad hoc excuse-making about “self-defense” Jewsus. I encourage you to read the Jew Testament all the way to the end, even if it is a long slough through that Revelation insanity.

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  490. Robjil says:

    Another interesting reason that the six million number for the Big H was picked, the sixth commandment is though shall not murder. Some Rabbis think that embarrassing or shaming people is like “murder”. The six million mantra has been shaming and embarrassing billions of non-Jews for the past 74 years. Why is Jewish culdture doing this to non-Jews for so long? It is time to give up this shaming and embarrassing of the world. Whatever happened should be allowed to be studied freely without restrictions.

    https://www.betemunah.org/six.html

    “The sixth Commandment is do not murder. This is a fundamental commandment that entails the respect for humanity. However, the principle of murder is not limited to physical murdering of another’s physical body. We are commanded not to embarr