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I sometimes worry that The Knoxville Horror will never end. Surely you remember the national headlines–“Gang of Blacks Convicted in Gruesome Kidnapping-Rape-Torture-Murders of White Couple”? I worry not for me—although I’ve been writing about this harrowing case for more than 11 years—but for the parents of the victims, Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, who have suffered throughout that period.

In April came this new twist:

Knox County prosecutors have now charged [Eric] Boyd with first- degree felony murder, first-degree premeditated murder, especially aggravated robbery, especially aggravated kidnapping, and aggravated rape in the murders.

[Judge Sets Sept. 10 Trial Date For Eric Boyd, WBIR, April 5, 2018.]

And since being indicted, Boyd has claimed, through his attorney, that he is ill. [Eric Boyd Being Treated For Undisclosed Medical Condition; Hearing Reset In Murder Case, By Hayes Hickman, Knoxville News Sentinel, June 6, 2018.]

He might be more than ill if convicted. The death penalty is in play if Boyd is convicted of Murder One.

But before discussing the latest development, and why Boyd (right) is only now, 11 years after the murders, being charged with those heinous crimes, let’s reprise the facts.

On Jan. 6, 2007, a nightmare began for Christian, Newsom and their families that will probably never end, at least not in this life.

Christian, 21, and Newsom, 23, made a handsome, young white couple. They were very much in love and, their parents believe, headed for matrimony. That all ended the night they were carjacked, kidnapped, gang-raped, tortured, robbed and murdered. The atrocities were racially motivated.

The many perpetrators were all black. Five perps were arrested, prosecuted and convicted; four in state court, and one in federal.

Those national headlines? You don’t remember them because there were none. Nothing like this one from the leftist NPR: “White man convicted of beating black man at Charlottesville white nationalist rally.” [by Camila Domonoske, May 2, 2018]

Funny thing.

Lemaricus Davidson; his half-brother Letalvis Cobbins; Cobbins’ friend George Thomas; and Cobbins’ girlfriend, Vanessa Coleman, were convicted in state court. Davidson’s crime partner, Eric Boyd, was convicted in federal court.

Davidson, Cobbins, and Thomas were convicted on dozens of charges, including kidnapping, rape, and murder. Davidson got the death penalty. Cobbins got life without the possibility of parole “plus 100 years,” and Thomas got life without the possibility of parole, then the possibility of parole, the second time around.

Vanessa Coleman was convicted, but only of criminal “facilitation” of rape and murder. She was sentenced to 53 years in prison, but won a retrial at which her sentence was knocked down to 35 years. She’s already been up for parole, but the parole board rejected her. She comes for it again in 2020.

Coleman celebrated the atrocity in her diary and has never expressed remorse. She and her parents insist that she was as much a “victim” as Channon Christian

Here are few of my stories at to refresh your memory:

And one from the newspaper in Knoxville:

All these perps will eventually be paroled. And judicial sabotage will be largely responsible.

Three white men—Judges Richard Baumgartner, Jon Kerry Blackwood, and Walter Kurtz—presided at the trials, each subverting justice on behalf of these black monsters. The judges’ M.O.? Bus in jurors from Davidson County, whose demographics were three times as black as Knox County, where the atrocity was committed.

Judge Baumgartner failed in the case of Lemaricus Davidson, because the pig-headed ringleader insisted on being tried by a Knox County jury.

The late Baumgartner was removed from the bench due to a scandal [Richard Baumgartner, Ex-Judge, Found Dead At 70, by Travis Dorman, USA Today, Jan. 23, 2018]. His shenanigans—shall we call them ex parte?—included sex in his chambers with a woman probationer under his authority. That should have been a front page, national story. Of course, the media obsessively suppressed coverage of the case, and then his successor, Blackwood, decreed that all four convicted defendants were owed new trials.

It ain’t over ’til the black felon wins!

Blackwood’s bias was apparently too much for District Attorney General Randy Nichols to bear. So he went over Blackwood’s head to the Tennessee Supreme Court and got him removed. However, Blackwood forced the state to hold two retrials of Coleman and Thomas that led to reduced sentences.

Kurtz, who replaced Blackwood, stuck to the usual judicial sabotage of stacking the jury with more blacks.

For helping hide Davidson, Eric Boyd was convicted in federal court as an accessory after the fact and sentenced to 18 years in federal prison. He had been very careful, when arrested, to avoid self-incriminatory statements about everything before the murders. But state prosecutors always believed that Boyd was guilty of kidnapping, rape, and murder, as well.

Until recently, that belief was based upon Vanessa Coleman’s statements in January 2007. She claimed that Thomas told her that he, Davidson and Boyd murdered Newsom, who was shot three times by two weapons. But that statement was inadmissible hearsay.

Now, it appears, Boyd has incriminated himself:

Prosecutors have not indicated what evidence they have against him now. Boyd has denied any involvement in the crimes. The witness list in the presentment against Boyd suggests his own words will be used as evidence against him. A Blount County Sheriff’s Office technology director, two BCSO corrections officers and a former BCSO jail investigator are listed as witnesses in the 36-count presentment returned in secret by a Knox County grand jury last month.

[Prosecutors Undecided On Whether To Seek Death Penalty For Eric Boyd, by Hayes Hickman, Knoxville News Sentinel, April 5, 2018].

And there might be DNA evidence, as well. Recall that Knox County Medical Examiner Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan testified to finding the semen of two additional males in Channon Christian’s panties. But their identities were not in any databases. Let’s hope they get their richly-deserved spots on Death Row or in prison.

But back to the national media, which worked hard to kill this story. When the late Duncan Mansfield of The Associated Press wrote about the case, he depicted grieving father Gary Christian and anyone else who felt sympathy for the victims—and who stated the obvious truth that the atrocity was racially motivated—as some sort of Klansman.[Media criticized in slayings with racial overtones, NBC, May 20, 2007] I eventually bestowed on Mansfield a posthumous DurantyBlair Award for Journalistic Infamy.

CNN’s Paula Zahn Show only devoted a show to the crime so the network could attack those who demonstrated on behalf of the victims, and to plagiarize the work of this writer, even as the “reporter” sought to vilify American Renaissancemagazine, which published the first national exposé on the case [White Supremacy and Plagiarism at CNN, Nicholas Stix, Uncensored, Jan. 18, 2008; The Knoxville Horror: The Crime and the Media Blackout, American Renaissance, July 2007].

Even Fox News ran for the bushes. Remember “we report, you decide?” When it reported the atrocity, it was merely to say that it was too grisly to report.

Speaking of media operatives, Knox News Sentinel’s Satterfield, who modestly bills herself as “the queen of crime writers,” has asserted that the two additional DNA profiles are merely the result of Davidson’s and Cobbins’ semen mixing in Christian’s panties.

She knows better. Or at least she should if she’s really The Volunteer State’s answer to the real “Queen of Crime,” Edna Buchanan. A mixture of two men’s semen cannot create a third DNA profile, let alone a fourth. That’s biologically impossible. So maybe Satterfield is just a conceited epigone.

Once upon a time, by the way, Satterfield intermittently kept her racial-socialist prejudices in check. But then, a few years ago, before she blocked me on Twitter, she insinuated that I’m a Kluxer. “Your white robe is showing,” she wrote.

Will Boyd name the two unnamed rapist-murderers? Will they turn up in a DNA database, without his help? Will Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom get even a semblance of justice?

And will their parents have to wait another 11 years before it all ends?

Nicholas Stix [email him] is a New York City-based journalist and researcher, much of whose work focuses on the nexus of race, crime, and education. He spent much of the 1990s teaching college in New York and New Jersey. His work has appeared in Chronicles, The New York Post, Weekly Standard, Daily News, New York Newsday, American Renaissance, Academic Questions, Ideas on Liberty and many other publications. Stix was the project director and principal author of the NPI report, The State of White America-2007. He blogs at Nicholas Stix, Uncensored.

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  1. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    “Your white robe is showing,” she wrote.

    99.9% of the time, the MSM ignores crime like this.
    When forced to, though, their reaction is like this quote.

    • Agree: Liza
  2. Anonymous [AKA "anabc"] says:

    Different species.

  3. Dante says:

    I remember this murder and those guilly deserve to rot along with the ((( msm ))) who lie for a living.

  4. Anonymous [AKA "Harry345"] says:

    Look at the media reporting front page on someone calling the police on black actor Ving Rhames the other day for appearing suspicious at a house in Santa Monica. It was turned into a smear against white people and held up as another example of their never-ending racism.

    I lived in that same neighborhood for sixteen years and the fact is there were periodic breaking-and-entering sweeps made through the area during daytime hours when residents were at work. Police had said at the time that the robber suspects were described by witnesses as black men, and urged residents to be vigilant and to call immediately if anything looked suspicious. I put it in a call myself on a suspicious white man who appeared to be trying to jimmy a neighbor’s door, and the police station confirmed that it was an undercover officer checking on another call.

    It’s about being a good neighbor, not a racist.

    American media is not for reporting news; it’s nothing more than a propaganda tool for Jewish supremacists.

  5. Biff says:

    When I was living in the Denver area in the 1990’s two black guys car jacked a white couple, and kid Napped, and ended up killing them both. I remember that Bill Ritter(became governor of CO years later) was the DA that put one of the guys away. Nevertheless, I’ve done a dozen searches but can’t find a reference. It was a horrific crime of the times back then, but seems to have been deep sixed.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  6. You had me until the last line.

    But then, I’m a Jewish supremacist.

    • Replies: @Jake
  7. @Biff

    I looked under the following keywords: “Bill Ritter” + conviction + kidnapping murder couple 1990s but came up empty, too.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  8. Jake says:

    The WASP Elites and much more so their Jewish allies love to see the white trash assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered into submission by the Numinous Negroes.

  9. Read about it here at Unz – because you sure as hell won’t be reading about it in the New York Times or Washington Post.

    • Replies: @SMK
    , @Truth
  10. They should have been executed long time ago. There are cases when death penalty is not only desirable, but necessary.

    • Replies: @SMK
    , @ben tillman
  11. Jake says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Like Ron Unz, you are high up on the Hit List for daring to tell the truth. They really don’t like it when Jews cause trouble by telling the truth.

    May the Lord bless your work and protect you.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  12. I read the article, and followed some of the links.
    I wonder what makes people behave like this.
    As jews also are white, what makes jewish media, if they do, unable to judge from the other side of the Atlantic, try to play down the atrocities ?
    At the same time, reminded of stories like that in Sweden, when a woman is raped by a ‘stranger’, and says so, she is prosecuted for racism, and in Germany, when female police are harassed by teenagers with migration background, they dare not report the incident.
    Eric Zemmour wrote about France’s suicide, Sarrazin about Germany destroying itself, more books and articles like this are appearing.
    For me the question is: how is all this possible ?
    Electro magnetic waves from mobile phones have destroyed brains ?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  13. Only a shallow, hollow mind would attempt to make a national tragedy a rare as it is into a nation program indictment for white sympathy.

    Good grief, get a grip, said events are tragic — deeply tragic. But it is not a national ethos that gang members are running around kidnapping and murdering white couples, And if one wants to play this game out — you lose because the rapes and murders by whites of blacks by magnitude, by incidence across the country was for good deal of the nation’s history policy.

    Now no doubt you’ll point to this incident as evidence why said practices were required and it would only fuel the record that whites by nature are predisposed to manufacture justification for wholly unsupportable claims —

    good grief.

    It would appear that blacks are quite willing to convict blacks with all of the caveats have applied to said cases during the trial process. The author seems blatantly ignorant of history.

    No doubt he will expounding the feminists and MeeYoo polity that more black men rape white women than white men rape black women. You Laura Ingraham and a host of others deseration is showing.

    This incident if accurate was tragic for its own sake – regardless of skin color.

  14. Comment from the peanut gallery up in The Great White North:

    My ex-wife is Chinese.. she told me in China, when the death penalty is handed down, it happens immediately — as in within 45 minutes of the verdict — and the family of the condemened is billed the executioner’s fee. Proper thing in this case, and 11 years later the American justice system is still futzing and farting around?

    Yet more proof The West is in terminal decline…

  15. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Yikes!!! Sounds like South African white treatment. And of course I never heard of this case or read about it in any newspaper.

  16. SMK says: • Website

    Your pseudonym says it all. Everything you say is an inversion of reality. You’re either a liar or a psychotic, or both. Whites are far more likely to rape and murder blacks than vice-versa!! “This incident if accurate was tragic…”!!! This horrific atrocity either didn’t happen or the facts are distorted and exaggerated! What matters is the history of the last 50 years and what will occur in the future as the U.S. is transformed into a nonwhite-majority hell-hole and dystopia in which blacks and Mestizos-Amerindians will be virtually free to rape and murder whites, not what happened, or what you believe happened, 200 and 300 and 400 years ago.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  17. SMK says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    In a sane and just and rational country, this gang of savages, monsters, and subhuman beasts would have been buried in prison long before they committed this atrocity, preternatural even by black standards of violence, brutality, sadism, and degeneracy.

  18. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘…Good grief, get a grip, said events are tragic — deeply tragic. But it is not a national ethos that gang members are running around kidnapping and murdering white couples…

    On the other hand, compare and contrast the decided lack of coverage this story (and many, many others) received compared to the prominence accorded the decidedly ambiguous and not particularly horrific Trayvon Martin killing.

    I first started noticing the double standard, oh it must have been thirty years ago now, if not more. Outside a housing project in Oakland, a black man assaulted a Chinese retard; knocked him down and began kicking his skull in. A screaming crowd surrounded the pair as the killing progressed. When the victim’s sister showed up and started trying to break through to rescue her brother, the crowd blocked her so the murder could progress.

    Page eighteen in the local paper. Move along.

    To reiterate, compare and contrast to Trayvon Martin.

  19. MBlanc46 says:

    Leonard Pitts can cry me a river.

  20. SMK says: • Website
    @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Or even reading about it at NR and the Weekly Standard, or hearing about it on Fox News, not even from Tucker Carlson. Thanks to the MSM, what percentage of whites know the truth or even half the truth about the last 50-years of black-on-white violence and criminality, from daily muggings, assaults, rapes, murders, etc., to comparatively rare outrages and atrocities like the Wichita massacre and the Knoxville horror.

  21. I’ve followed your articles on this case since the beginnning, Mr. Styx, as I’ve read VDare, since ~ 2003. Thank you for keeping at least a few of us informed. I know that you are reporting the lack of attention to the Knoxville Horror of the Lyin’ Press, because that’s part of your point. However, they are nothing but a distraction and all of us would be much better off setting an example for others by completely shunning the American Pravda, as Ron Unz rightly calls it.

    Start with the damn TV. I don’t want to hear about “can you believe this idiot on CNN said xxx the other day? …”. You’re the idiot for your persistence in watching that crap. I don’t think that idiot on the idiot box would really mind what you called him, as you’ve just been helping his ratings! Cut that cable TV OFF, and don’t click on internet links to the Lyin’ Press. If you’re not sure, look at the status bar near the bottom of the browser window – or elsewhere – and see where a link will take you – they get more money in general when people click, whether they read or not, agree or not, DOES NOT MATTER.

    America’s Lyin’ Press has been against the American people for a long time already, and it’s high time that people get wise to that. Don’t expect help from them – we are on our own as far as truth-seeking goes.

  22. I hope that one good to come out of this and other horrific crimes is more understanding of the need for concealed weapons. It’s one of only a measly few things that has been getting better in our country, that most states, if not abiding by the Constitution, have come closer at least by making it fairly simple to legally carry a handgun.

    Any stupid move that I’ve made has always made me wish I could go back an hour, a day, or whatever it took to get to the point of the bad decision. I’m not gonna say that a couple of young 20-year olds were stupid, just as naive as the next couple, probably. However, I just wish I could have been reading this as a self-defense story, with those 4 guys and 1 lady laying on the sidewalk and never getting up. It could have just been an older gentleman nearby that was well-prepared to be a good samaritan when the crime started. Hopefully, next time.

    • Replies: @Whitey
  23. @EliteCommInc.

    You’re a despicable liar.

    Why do you hate white people?

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Corvinus
  24. Crimson2 says:

    White nationalist whines that media won’t treat this story the way white nationalist media does. No shit, Jethro.

    • Replies: @Ace
  25. @Bardon Kaldian

    I hesitate to say it, but this is what lynching is for.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @Svigor
  26. @Colin Wright

    On the other hand, compare and contrast the decided lack of coverage this story (and many, many others) received compared to the prominence accorded the decidedly ambiguous and not particularly horrific Trayvon Martin killing.

    Common events don’t get much newsprint.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Svigor
  27. @EliteCommInc.

    Only a shallow, hollow mind would attempt to make a national tragedy a rare as it is into a nation program indictment for white sympathy.

    The reason it’s not in the news is because it isn’t rare.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  28. renfro says:

    The death penalty is called for in cases like this.

  29. Blackdawg says:

    Sounds to me like the judge cut the prosecutors off at the knees. Any statement made by a criminal defendant (in this case Thomas), especially re: the crime for which he was prosecuted is an ‘admission’ under any legal rubric in the country. Not, the ‘inadmissible hearsay’ that the judge ruled it was.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  30. anarchyst says:

    A good example of “prosecutorial discretion” exists in the American “justice system” where over 90% of prosecutions are plea-bargained and never see a trial. This is where many “future killers” get their start, pleading guilty to lesser charges to avoid a full-blown jury trial (which is convenient and less-costly for the prosecution. After committing a number of crimes that go “excused” by plea-bargains, the criminal is then ready for “the big time”.
    A good (but fictional) example of this was in the movie “Law Abiding Citizen” with the “prosecutor” (a black man) “made a deal” with one of (actually the primary) murderers in order to maintain his “perfect record”.
    The principle antagonist (the murder victims’ husband and father) was right when he stated that he “wanted to bring the whole stinking diseased temple down” on the prosecutor’s head.

    • Replies: @Ace
  31. @ben tillman

    Rebecca Latimer Felton would have agreed.

  32. @Colin Wright

    There were more than 11,000 murders in the US in 2016 — tragic and most of them never make the national news. I am not the least bit concerned that the coverage be national. But this incident as tragic as it is, hardly represents a color war on whites.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @bj
  33. @Reg Cæsar

    No. murder is a very rare occurrence in US society. There are some 250 million plus people in the US, including illegal immigrants.

    In 2016 using the high number of nonnegligent homicides there were some 17,000 murders in 2016

    That’s roughly: 0.0.005151515151515152% mistaking news coverage for actual incident is not the same as a common event.

    to the white population alone 0.008673469387755102%

    And the chances decrease as random acts because in general most whites avoid black areas and few black gangs troll white neighborhood s or whites not in any associated with them by community or relationship.

    Murder is a rare and tragic event.

    • Replies: @bj
    , @Svigor
  34. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    I thought only White men were serial killers.

    Orlando Sentinel, 07/29/18 – Man accused of killing woman he met on Tinder confesses to 6 other slayings: reports

    Connecticut man on probation for harassment was charged last week with attempted murder in Los Angeles and is a suspect in the killing of a nurse in New York City earlier this month. Several media outlets in New York, including the New York Daily News, are also reporting that Danueal Drayton admitted to police in Los Angeles that he has killed as many as seven woman…

    Drayton, 27, who has lived in Hamden and East Haven, has been arrested by New Haven, East Haven and Waterbury police on a variety of charges, including second-degree strangulation, unlawful restraint and violation of a protective order…

    New York Police Chief of Detectives Dermot F. Shea said earlier this week via Twitter that when police captured Drayton in Los Angeles for the killing of Samantha Stewart, a nurse from Queens, he had been holding another woman captive in her apartment.

    “He’s off the streets but may have victimized others via online dating sites,” Shea tweeted.

    Drayton met Stewart through the online dating app Tinder, according to the New York Daily News…

    • Replies: @Alden
  35. anarchyst says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    George Zimmerman merely “took out the garbage” when he dispatched “young master trayvon” to the hereafter. Good job, Mr. Zimmerman!
    It is interesting to note that “young master trayvon’s” criminal record was covered up in Broward County, Florida by the same people that failed to act during the school mass shooting…
    The media was derelict by not showing trayvon’s “thug” picture instead showing trayvon’s picture as a cherubic, angelic twelve-year-old. They also doctored Zimmerman’s conversation with the 911 dispatcher.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @bj
  36. @Nicholas Stix


    I don’t hate white people exclusively. I distrust people period.

    look if you want to make this a national story fine. But the turn I object to is the color play — good grief. It’s not a play you can win by comparison to motive of criminal activity or worse perhaps, policies by whites —

    Black gangs are not roving the streets hunting down whites. I would only step back from my comments concerning whether only a shallow mind would so engage. but based on your own words, there have been prosecutions and convictions apparently b y black jurors. Now whether they should have gotten the death penalty — one can get in line on the number of murders people warrant death penalty and are dismayed by prosecutor decisions.

  37. @Colin Wright

    Note: i did not include other non-negligent cases.

  38. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘There were more than 11,000 murders in the US in 2016 — tragic and most of them never make the national news. I am not the least bit concerned that the coverage be national. But this incident as tragic as it is, hardly represents a color war on whites.’

    Just stay out of black neighborhoods and you should be fine — and when you encounter blacks, be polite and deferential.

    You’re right. Know your place and there’ll be no problem.

  39. I would like to hear it read the case transcript because when examining motive, this was a random car jacking. So motive does not appear to be skin color and in I would expect given the confessions that there would language about skin color during the crime. and even the story details don’t reflect such language. It’s hard to imagine if color were motive that wouldn’t be in play or even as a random stand alone.

    There are many reasons why a story doesn’t get the coverage one might expect. And if in fact color is an issue as many here claim, one has to answer the question why that would be the case — and the quoted professor referenced knows exactly why that is – despite his pretense. He knows the history, the consequence and that reality as painful a truth as it is grants that in the scales of justice and power crime incidence has ben a very powerful tool in fueling white resentments and policy . . .

    case in point.

    Now the obvious reverse comparison is codified in the national historical record, that blacks have for most of the country’s history been on the short end of both sticks and nearly all crimes against blacks has been to skin color to motive — I cannot rewrite history for you.

    I would justice, hope and some manner of restorative recompense from the one who knows all things and provides comfort in the midst of our human tragedies —- this is a very disconcerting tale of evil, which knows neither skin color, intelligence or income.

    There are no excuses from concerning this aberrant behavior.

  40. @Colin Wright

    Know your place and there’ll be no problem.

    If only Emmett Till had heeded such advice…

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @anarchyst
  41. @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double


    at least said comments are honest. Knowing one’s place. I am curious where that is such that another is entitled to engage in murder. I guess, one could turn the tables here and say so and so was killed because they didn’t show proper deference to black skin and therefore said crime was justified —-

    What a childish and utterly bankrupt notion. But i suspect that this again reveals some truth about where most of the country really is —

    and it reminds me of the benefit of having voted for the current president. My country laid bare and raw for what it is . . .

    I guess the real shocker for many whites is that blacks are exercising their place as citizens and many find that a bridge too far.

    I appreciate the honesty.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  42. @anarchyst

    It is interesting to note that “young master trayvon’s” criminal record was covered up in Broward County, Florida by the same people that failed to act during the school mass shooting

    No, it’s actually worse than you think. St Trayvon was in Miami-Dade County, adjacent to and south of Broward. So the two most populous South Florida counties both conduct the same type of cover-up of crimes committed by “teens.” If I were a betting man, I’d bet every “urban” school district in America is up to the same shenanigans.

  43. @Colin Wright

    Ii am going to reject your characterization of my comments. we are not on the same page save that this was a tragic event – calling out for justice.

    But a citizens place in public spaces should be traveled as he or she sees fit. And should be so engaged without interference: accosted. assaulted or murdered by anyone or the the citizens granted authorities, i.e., the police. Furthermore said citizens are entitled to express their points of view, feelings and sentiments with a being accosted, assaulted, or murdered, regardless of skin tone, etc.

    That is the citizens place to so freely travel, converse or not . . . .

    • Replies: @bj
    , @JudyBlumeSussman
  44. correction: There are no excuses from me concerning this aberrant behavior.

  45. Something is not adding up (or, rather, adding up too good) in this story to take
    it as a racial case.

    I mean from the point of gematria it’s a classic occult case “aligned” on “2 7”.
    Just a few lines to give an idea:

    01+06+20+07=34=7+27; 0106+2007=2113=6*6*60-27-20;
    “Knoxville Horror”=216=6*6*6; and in reverse ABC =189=7*27;
    “White(65=72-7) couple(72)”=137=-70+207;
    “Gang of Blacks”=98=7*2*7;

    etc. etc.,
    including pretty long descriptions “miraculously” resulting in the same short
    chains of numbers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  46. @anarchyst

    Piers Morgan, possibly the most puffed-up individual in the media, did us the great service of letting Rachel Jeantel slip that Trayvon’s attempt to kill Zimmerman was in fact an impromptu gay bashing.

    Steve brought this up once, but never went back to it. It’s completely shut out of the mass media.

  47. Knowing one’s place. I am curious where that is such that another is entitled to engage in murder

    That would appear to be “black neighbourhoods,” according to (((Colin Wright))).

    I guess, one could turn the tables here and say so and so was killed because they didn’t show proper deference to black skin and therefore said crime was justified

    That would appear to be the substance of (((Colin’s))) position.

    I guess the real shocker for many whites is that blacks are exercising their place as citizens and many find that a bridge too far.

    It seems more likely that the real “shocker” is the extent to which blacks’ “place as citizens” appears to far surpass everyone else’s. Almost literally getting away with the most horrific sort of murder does indeed tend to be “a bridge too far” for most people.

    I appreciate the honesty.

    I rather suspect that you wouldn’t recognize honesty if you tripped over it.

  48. @jilles dykstra

    “Jews also are white”

    TY for laugh of the day…so far.

    most of the world’s Jews are Ashkenaz, genetically, out of Asia.

    the rest are sephards/mizrahic, genetically, out of N. Africa and the Middle East.

    Both groups have been at war with Whites and their civilization for 1,300 years and counting.

    the Jew MSM smothered the Nashville Horror because the niggers did exactly what they were (((programmed))) to do: butcher Whites.

    as to race-realist Jews like Stix, Unz, and a few others: they’re a minor exception, not the rule.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  49. @Blackdawg

    Not, the ‘inadmissible hearsay’ that the judge ruled it was.

    You can’t ask Person A what Person B told them Person C did.

    You can bring Person B into court and ask them in person.

    The cops can use Person B’s comment as a reason to investigate Person C.

  50. @EliteCommInc.

    Now the obvious reverse comparison is codified in the national historical record, that blacks have for most of the country’s history been on the short end of both sticks and nearly all crimes against blacks has been to skin color to motive — I cannot rewrite history for you.

    Between 1882 and 1968, 3500 blacks were lynched. For the last 15 years, there have been 6000-7000 blacks murdered each year, the vast majority by other blacks. Are you really saying that black on black murder is driven by the color of the victim’s skin?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  51. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘…I guess the real shocker for many whites is that blacks are exercising their place as citizens and many find that a bridge too far…’

    Lol (well, grim smile).

    That comment is so far divorced from reality that it is literally amusing.

    The ironic bit is that to this day I continue to be immediately open and receptive to any actual black managing to behave in a reasonable, intelligent, civilized manner. I would like it if blacks were actually as capable of behaving in a reasonably civilized manner as almost literally every other ethnic, racial, and religious group that I have encountered.

    I recall reading about Clarence Thomas and thinking — ‘wow: I actually respect this guy.’ When I ran my moving business, I had no problem with black customers who could do things like be packed when I showed up and write a check that didn’t bounce. Two of the best helpers I ever had were black, and I had no problem with that.

    The difficulty is that so many blacks can’t get over this bar; they fail to live up to the minimum standards of citizenship that I see most whites, Asians, Hispanics, and — yes — Muslims meeting without difficulty.

    It’s not about blacks ‘exercising their place as citizens.’ It’s about blacks — uniquely — being apparently incapable of exercising their place as citizens.

    You live in an ideology-driven substitute for reality; you see what your ideology requires you to see. I — and many others — live in a reality-driven place. We see what we’ve experienced.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Crimson2
  52. @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    It’s going to be (((amusing))) to see how long you persist in the notion that I am Jewish.

    If you would actually read the entirety of my post…

    Mind, if you want to keep thinking I’m Jewish, go for it. Some of my best friends have been Jews, etc. In my experience, gentiles actually tend to be tediously dim-witted if earnest and fairly trustworthy.

    …sort of like Labrador Retrievers, now that I think about it. Happily, I like Labrador Retrievers too, so maybe there’s no real problem there.

    Lessee. On the one hand, my dog was a Labrador Retriever. On the other hand, my first serious girlfriend was Jewish. On the other, other hand, see my website: I am a raging Israel-phobe.

    Oh, this is (((confusing))). What to do, what to do?

    (Edit: was she Jewish? I vaguely recall her making some reference to her mother’s childhood as a daughter of missionaries in China. That’d kind of kick the Jewish idea in the head. Shocking: I fornicated repeatedly with her and never even worked out if she was Jewish or not.)

  53. @Reg Cæsar

    ‘…Piers Morgan, possibly the most puffed-up individual in the media, did us the great service of letting Rachel Jeantel slip that Trayvon’s attempt to kill Zimmerman was in fact an impromptu gay bashing.

    Steve brought this up once, but never went back to it. It’s completely shut out of the mass media…’

    Understandably. That implies so many ideological short circuits that I’m not even going to touch it. Just call a licensed electrician.

    • Replies: @Alden
  54. Corvinus says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    So how do you approach such matters with your priest, minister, or pastor, Mr. Stix, when it comes to “making a national tragedy [this event] into a nation[al] program indictment [to generate] white sympathy”?

    Asking for a friend.

    • Replies: @Alden
  55. Liza says:

    @Mr. Stix. I think you should write a book about the slaughter and torture of these two kids, and all subsequent events. Time to graduate from articles. You can do it.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  56. Anonymous [AKA "AndreLinoge"] says:

    No, there’s only one reason this story wasn’t blasted across the MSM. Hint: It starts with and “N” and ends in “arrative.”

  57. Alden says:

    There are more black serial killers than White ones

    The FBI defines a serial killer as one who killed 3 or more persons in 3 or more separate incidents. In other words, some one who kills several people in one incident is not a serial killer

    Here’s the profile of a typical black serial killer. At 19 he kills someone in a robbery. He’s young enough to go to a prison for 16 to 24 year olds. He gets out on parole in 6 years at 25. At 30 he kills someone in a fight and goes to prison and gets out at age 40. Several years later he’s beating his girl friend’s 2 year old and kills the kid.

    Black serial killers don’t roam the country like Ted Bundy. They don’t select White neighborhoods and shoot young couples sitting in cars like Son of Sam.

    They kill in robberies. Most kill in fights over stupid things. They get all volatile and enraged about things normal people consider trivial and dis respect. They have a very high rate of beating their and their girl friends children to death.
    Black serial killers aren’t interesting and never became famous. They just start fights for no reason and beat children to death.

    And many more than Whites kill at least 3 people in at least 3 separate incidents. When they are on trial for one murder previous murders can’t be mentioned. They have a high rate of murders in their teens.

    So they start early.

  58. @Colin Wright

    Blacks can be as well mannered as the next person and are entitled to be as ill mannered or any mix as are whites, so is the human condition.

    Well, there are a lot — millions in my view of respectable black people as the record clearly demonstrates. And as with whites on any given day might not be as reasonable as one might like — however, that is a people thing, not a black thing, and i am certainly not going characterize an ill mannered day as some kind of static label on them or all blacks. Such is the very motif used to paint a unrealistic panorama and expectation of blacks — especially akin to staying their proverbial place. Their place is equal as to being citizens and in all respects.

    Sure whites fell all over themselves about Dr. Sowell, until he dared question the numbers, methodology and conclusions concerning intelligence and skin color — he along with other popular blacks, Sec Condoleeza Rice, Gene Powell all were little darlings of white people until they dared express their lives in their terms. Then whites , including and especially the intellectual influential jet set got rather uppitty and chastised them them for daring to express a view not uplifting to white polity — it’s very revealing how quickly whites are willing to show blacks their place, even the likes of Dr. Sowell, Sec Adviser Rice and Sec Powell. The deference expected to any and all whites, and hispanics is thick enough to eat and never be full, though the size of a 40 year old oak.

    Ohhh nonsense, in fact, history makes it very plain — blacks have literally killed themselves to please whites, demonstrate their citizenship, loyalty, berated and sold themselves and their own members to be a part of the american dream — your experience ha not skimmed the surface of the more than 40 million blacks in this country — I would love to mince words here — but as a conservative, this my experience is the real for the whole is not only a violation of the rules of logic, it’s predicated on old schools of thought right out of the master’s handbook.

    Making conclusions about how I live when you nothing about my life is just the kind of rhetoric that belies the your polity — assumption filled with speculation and tailored made conclusions.

    I will say this, my conservative ethos does not rely on my personal experience along to draw conclusions about a vast population set and it should be embarrassing to anyone who so engages. Apparently, you have no clue that it’s not ideology alone, it’s ideology against the actual data. And anyone claimimg their experience represents the whole beyond that experience should be kept tightly aleashed. Tightly aleashed right alongside their dreams of asia, hispanic and muslim embrace.

    Goodness gracious build the wall mr president before these ‘unclued’ individuals swamp the land.

    At least my differences with most b;lacks are on policy, not some fanciful notion of their ineligibility as citizens.

  59. @Chris Mallory


    I am making no such argument — but demographics of criminal behavior indicates that most crimes involve people in some manner of association: local, relational dynamic — hence most whites engage in crimes against whites, most blacks engage in crime involving blacks

    when that shifts is in response to the numbers more whites will experience crime by blacks than vice versa based on the simple fact that there are more whites in the population — not by definition target as the result of white skin.

    • Replies: @bj
  60. @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    I am going to be sympathetic here.

    The article literally contradicts your comments — no one is getting away with anything.

    Further, you mistook my not taking advantage of the “know your place” comments. Because i am cognizant of this tragedy I withheld the meaning, hoping that it would be gleaned by other means. As to have been specific would have been rude to the family of the particular couple . . .

    and I deeply sympathize with what must be an excruciating experience.

    • Replies: @Alden
  61. Alden says:

    Why would a clergy critter get involved and how could a clergy critter help in this situation?

    Even if the Pope or Al Sharpton wanted to publicize the torture to death murders they would be denied coverage
    Sharpton has a TV show. Even if he talked about it live, the network would cut him off for a commercial and then insert some old footage.

  62. Alden says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why did Trayvon think Zimmerman was gay? Zimmerman didn’t look effeminate at all.

    I’ve always wondered what would have happened if his Dad was Hispanic with a Hispanic last name and the Mom’s name Zimmerman.

    It would have been in page 6 of the local paper once and not in the local TV news.

    Some years ago a cop shot a small thin homeless old black woman. Local merchants were pressuring police to run off the homeless in the area. The cops confronted the woman. She pulled out a big screw driver. Both fired. One hit her and she died

    Assuming the cops were evil Whites, local TV went nuts. Programs were interrupted with the news. Next day it was on the front page.

    Then it was discovered one cop was Hispanic the other was Asian. The story disappeared completely. Jesse Jackson was still active . A friend joked Jackson turned his plane around.

  63. Truth says:

    What about the Lincoln murder; any cold case updates on that?

    • Replies: @David In TN
  64. @EliteCommInc.

    Blacks can be as well mannered as the next person and are entitled to be as ill mannered or any mix as are whites, so is the human condition.

    Wait, are you Tiny D*ck?

    You ignore the fact that blacks commit far more murders than whites despite having lower numbers than whites.

  65. bj says:

    You are a liar! The FBI murder statistics for 2012 show 431 black murders of whites and 193 white murders of blacks in the USA. The black population of the USA is 13%. A black is approximately 12 times more likely to murder a white person, than a white person is to murder a black.

    The suppression of the truth of black on white crime is a national disgrace. The reporting of black on white crime is actively suppressed by the media, academia, and law enforcement. The statistics of black on white rape are equally horrific. The USA allows black crime as an entitlement.

    Why do you think whites abandon a neighborhood when blacks move into the area? The anger is rising over affirmative action and black criminality. The USA will have race war if black crime continues, without the black perpetrators facing justice.

    People who have not dealt with or lived around black thug culture have no idea how blacks hate us because we are white. And you have the nerve to post your lies and apologia for black criminality and parasitism. Read the FBI crime statistics and you will know the enormous lie you perpetuate!

  66. Alden says:

    Excruciating? Channon was alive for 2 days She was raped every which way to the point she was torn apart anally and vaginally all the way up to her uterus and large bowel. In an effort to destroy DNA evidence they poured bleach inside her. The bleach burned her severely in the sensitive interior tissue.

    She was burnt and severely beaten. She was wrapped in garbage bags and dumped upside down in a garbage can while still alive. She actually died because upside down, her diaphragm muscle didn’t work to support her lungs so she died of suffocation

    You don’t sympathize at all you sanctimonious monster. You are just a Christian submissive virtue signaler.

    I’ve read your incoherent goody goody Christian posts Why don’t you follow Jesus and go find some nasty blacks to torture you to death.

    You never heard of the atrocity till you read this article. Go to duck duck go and type in their names and American renaissance council of conservative citizens and Nicholas Stix

    Read the true story of how the torture rape murders were covered up. Read how the family of the victims were accused of being in the KKK.

    Most of all, read how the jury was rigged to be mostly black in the same way the OJ Simpson trial was rigged to be 10 out of 12 black.

    Vicious racist satanic people like you have aided abetted and encouraged atrocities like the Christian Newsome case for 158 years.

    You are also a typical ignorant liberal brainwashed moron

  67. bj says:

    “In 2012, an estimated 1,214,462 violent crimes occurred nationwide, an increase of 0.7 percent from the 2011 estimate.”

  68. bj says:

    “Don’t Make The Black Kids Angry”–Colin Flaherty

  69. Alden says:

    An AD for the 10 pm news is on TV. Republican campaign rallies are organized by Russia.

    There is not a word of truth on TV news.

    I’m not going to read this thread anymore. I usually avoid Elite Comm’s sanctimonious virtue signals but his approval of the way the Newsome Christian murders will soon be on parole and claiming the tortures were just normal murders has me so enraged.

    Normally Elitecomm only makes one or two comments. On this thread however, he’s making numerous comments approving of the torture murders and the way the murderees wi soon get parole. Interesting

  70. bj says:

    Sundance reports on black criminal entitlement in the Travon Martin Case……

  71. bj says:

    Colin Flaherty – The Media is Lying About Black Lives Matter & Black Mob Violence

    And so are you…troll!

  72. Alden says:

    You’re black aren’t you? Your posts use educated English but are incoherent and not logical. You’re a black preacher who actually went to seminary instead of ordaining yourself.

    That’s why you are defending the torturers. You’re black, just like them.

  73. bj says:

    Tell that to the black thugs……”Race and Crime”

  74. Anonymous [AKA "Fred836"] says:

    “Black gangs are not roving the streets hunting down whites.”

    They are where I live. In the last fifteen years or so we went from an unnoticeable black population to about 20%. During that time our homicide rate became 200% higher than Phildelphia, 800% higher than New York.

    Gangs of blacks routinely attack whites and rob money and cell phones. Public service ads have actually been run over the radio for the benefit of the two local universities–urging students not to walk alone on their own college campuses.

    • Replies: @Crimson2
    , @Jeff Stryker
  75. bj says:

    The Color of Crime—Jared Taylor

    “There are 600,000 cases of interracial violence in the USA per year. Blacks are the perpetrators 85% of the time. Blacks are 27 mores times likely to commit criminal violence against whites than vice versa.”

  76. One excuse for black on white murder is “it rarely happens.” And since it is “rare” you would think the MSM (ABC 20/20, NBC Dateline, CBS 48 Hours) would do shows on such an “unusual” event.

    Wouldn’t you?

    Another standard whine is “dead pretty white girls get all the publicity.” Well, this one had a dead white girl. Why didn’t it become a huge national story like Laci Peterson or Natalie Holloway? What was the difference?

  77. @Truth

    No room for Lincoln. The Kennedys want the 50 years ago RFK assassination reopened.

    • Replies: @Truth
  78. Crimson2 says:
    @Colin Wright

    All of you cowards polishing your guns and worrying about black crime have allowed your paranoia to rewrite reality.

    You are much, MUCH, more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person. But ranting about black people on the internet feels too good to let reality get in the way.

  79. Crimson2 says:

    Oh, Fred. No one is buying this bullshit.

  80. Crimson2 says:

    White nationalist dipshits are still terrible at math.

    431 black on white murders. PANIC!!!!

    Guys, 600 people die every year by accidental shootings. Get a fucking grip.

  81. @Nicholas Stix

    I tried various combinations unsuccessfully and ended up reading (Governor) Bill Ritter’s Wikipedia entry which was interesting to me but made no mention of violent crime at all. Interesting: he was sixth of 12 children; financed his college education by working in the construction industry from an early age; went to Zambia as a Catholic missionary (shades of The Book of Mormon? No, his wife went with him); 97% plea bargains as A-G, the same as the shocking US average; steadily lost popularity as Governor and didn’t stand again; at least countering Blue State dysgenics: he has four children 🙂

  82. Avalanche says:

    “it is not a national ethos that gang members are running around kidnapping and murdering white couples”

    So, you’ve never read The Color of Crime, eh? Try the 2106 edition and stop being blind (and thus stupid)!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  83. Anonymous [AKA "Frederick Marrs"] says:

    You are much, MUCH, more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person. But ranting about black people on the internet feels too good to let reality get in the way.

    No, somewhat more likely to be a black perp if one is not isolated from them. But this was a “stranger” killing. Much more likely to be the black subspecies involved. Read “The color of Crime” above.

    In most metro areas of US with significant black populations, the murder rate is about 30 – 60 per 100 thousand. For White areas, the rate is about 4 per 100 thousand.

    This high murder rate in black areas is a subspecies characteristic which is typical world wide. The most useful datum to predict murder rate of an area is the percentage of blacks in the location. Give it a try.

    Conversely, gun toting US white areas compare well with even no-gun white areas elsewhere in the world.

  84. @SMK

    …Its happening faster than that.

    Watch old Hollywood films set in the San Fernando Valley like FAST TIMES or KARATE KID. Thirty years ago, these places were such bastions of WASP elitism that working-class kids like Sean Penn’s Irish-American stoner or scruffy Italian kids from Newark named LaRusso were regarded as dubious minorities in the Valley.

    Now the place is Guatemala.

    My brother moved out West early, in the 1990’s, to the Orange Curtain. Now Orange County is full of MS-13 gang bangers.

    An urban planner by trade, he moved to a Podunk State. Not that he would have ever wanted to move to that state but simply to flee Mestizos.

    Brazil is coming on in the next 10 or 20 years. Whites will be like Indians in the Amazon rain forest.

  85. @Crimson2

    In Dubai not one person shot another one or raped a white woman-supposedly the Muslim world is dangerous and Islam backward but no Western expat has been killed or raped in Dubai. Philippines is another country of purported rampant crime and dangers for foreigners but I can only think of 1 expat who was shot there in a McDonald’s holdup. Japan has almost no crime against foreigners whatsoever.

    431 murders a year is a huge number of white people to be killed by another minority.

    The last time Japanese killed 431 white people was WWII.

    • Replies: @crimson2
    , @Truth
  86. @EliteCommInc.

    Blacks don’t defer to Hispanics unless Cholos are pointing a gun at them.

  87. @Anonymous

    I’d believe it to a degree but usually by the time black crime gets that bad the whites are moving out anyhow because the city is in post-industrial decline.

    When a city is mostly white it is relatively prosperous which means there is little for black gangs to do there because they have nothing to spend, barring selling drugs. Now that cocaine is passe for Yuppies and crack is strictly a ghetto drug, black gangs have no economic reason or material ability to be in mostly-white cities.

    When a city has tax resources, police are fairly pro-active and the sort of economy that sustains black gangs-crack cocaine sales, stolen car rings, dog fighting, fencing, street prostitution and pimping-is quelled by the police. Its hard to peddle ass or corner deal in Silicone Valley or Manhattan. The cops will be there in 70 seconds.

    Universities are a different matter because some of the athletes are black gang members and their set then rents an apartment off-campus to sell marijuana to white college kids or to diddle white hippie girls. Sometimes an older college is located in the inner-city.

    Because I am from Detroit, I know the actual realities of black crime.

    This is not to say white-on-black violence does not exist. It does.

    • Replies: @prusmc
  88. @Crimson2


    Blacks have a bad relationship with the police, so an assault by white kids upon a black (Usually 2-on-1 and aggravated) goes unreported unless it is so serious that the ambulance arrives.

    If a black prostitute in Detroit is raped by white truckers, and this does occur from time to time, the police are unlikely to press charges.

    White criminals will sometimes rob black drug dealers and then return to the sticks. Again, no report.

    I’m from Detroit, I know these things.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    , @Svigor
  89. @Crimson2

    Indeed, a Tony Soprano or Jeffrey Dahmer is more dangerous and buy the time he is caught has committed many more homicides.

    They have the muscle mass to give a Crip a run for his money, possess an IQ of 136 and have more resources to cover up their crimes.

    This is the same reason 14 year old black girls get pregnant but Jewish women who are 30 in the porn industry never get pregnant. They’re smarter.

    Spree killings also require a load of planning. An Andrew Cunanan-type assassin or the Vegas shooter plan for 4 months.

    Black crime involves someone producing a gun, shooting someone dead on the sidewalk in front of 4 witness and then trying to sell the cellphone of the dead victim.

    They usually don’t have a cement truck like Tony does to cover up the crime. Nor have they bough vats of acid like Jeffrey Dahmer.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  90. @EliteCommInc.

    That is the citizens place to so freely travel, converse or not . . . .

    Boomer detected.

    “At least I still have the Constitution!”

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  91. @Avalanche


    I knew a few Polish and hillbilly petty criminals (More of them) in Detroit and most of them just stopped committing crimes like drug dealing or car theft because jail is now so brutal and also because sentencing puts you away for 50 years.

    A good many of the old-fashioned petty white criminals like you saw in the film “The Warriors” just decided it is not worth going to prison for 50 years and being sodomized in their cell 5 times a day.

    I don’t think blacks would be inclined like Tony Soprano to buy a cement truck, pay $50,000 to the local patrol cop to look the other way, order a subordinate to order another subordinate to carry out the execution etc. Also, when a 45 year old shitbag Italian mobster disappears, it does not carry the pathos of 17 year old shot in the road.

  92. @Colin Wright

    Most black crime is random, and of a spur-of-moment opportunistic whim.

    For example, the Outlaw MC has a clubhouse in Detroit and not one motorcycle is stolen.

    Blacks tend to single out harmless-appearing middle-class whites for sudden outbursts of violence. They are not confronting burly re-doubted one percenters outside the Outlaw MC in Detroit. They tend to go after random unarmed and soft-looking whites.

    It is not the burly and bellicose bikers who would be singled out for violence. It will be some normal-looking white-collar Anglo in an Izod shirt.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Svigor
  93. @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes! Get rid of the tv, period. How lazy, unimaginative, and timid are people who claim to be so severely dissatisfied with the state of our culture and the media propagandists who lie, distort, selectively report, defame, and brainwash, but can’t live without their precious television. Pathetic.

    Simply ending easily ended support for one’s enemies is an obvious start.

    Imagine the loss of revenue and profit —and influence — if ten million USA households permanently cut off their cable / satellite / online TV service. WHAT ARE PEOPLE WAITING FOR? Do it already.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  94. @EliteCommInc.

    You are dangerously naive. I believe that you are male, and it’s clear that you’re not stupid, but you sound like you’re suffering from “nice white lady” SwedenGermamy syndrome.

    Blacks aren’t hunting down whites? Is that why there are stretches of MILES in every direction in hundreds of cities where whites —indeed non-Africans — are at constant risk of a beatdoen and robbery, if not rape or murder, if they stray into that territory?

    Do us all a favor and take a nightly walk in an african neighborhood. But let us know where you are first, in case the local newspaper / news website reports your experience.

    • Replies: @Truth
  95. @EliteCommInc.

    Give us some stats. Because you’ll find that vastly more whites have been murdered or raped by Africans in the USA than the other way around. Both in absolute numbers and relative to population. And it’s not even close.

    Given how small the population of the USA was in the whites-dominating-blacks decades and how much larger the population has been over the past fifty years, there have probably been more black murders and rapes of white people in just the last 20 years than white murders and rapes of black people throughout all of the usa’s history (including colonial times with their insignificant population).

  96. crimson2 says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    In Dubai not one person shot another one or raped a white woman

    Then move your frightened ass to Dubai.

    431 murders a year is a huge number of white people to be killed by another minority.

    No, it isn’t. You want to save white people? Focus on suicide.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  97. @RadicalCenter

    Yep, “JUST DO IT!”

    BTW, I think that Mr. Styx might think I was calling him an idiot directly in my 1st comment (the one you’re replying to). I did not mean that to be the case. I was using the general “you”.

    Thanks again for keeping us up on this actual news, Mr. Styx.

  98. anarchyst says:
    @Buster Keaton’s Stunt Double

    There is much more to the “Emmett Till” story that is not widely known. Of course, killing him made him into a “martyr” of the black “civil-rights” movement. but–it is not generally known that Emmett Till was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs.–NOT a “little boy” as some media types tried to portray him as. He was a known womanizer and attempted to take his cocky “Chicago ways” in dealing with women to the Deep South. He was sent to live with relatives in the South because his Chicago relatives could not handle him. He had a “cocky attitude” and bragged about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea in the South. . . According to published accounts, Mr. Till did not just “whistle” at a white woman, but grabbed, manhandled and fondled a married white woman. In Southern culture, this was, and still is, the ultimate form of disrespect. Despite Mr. Till’s relatives’ attempts to spirit him “out of town” to avoid retribution by the woman’s relatives and townspeople, his cocky attitude “got in the way”, similar to the way that “young master Trayvon’s” attitude got him killed. Despite being given numerous “chances” to apologize for his behavior, he was defiant to the end. IF he had apologized for his behavior, he would still be alive today. In fact, one of his killers was a black man.
    It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes. Maybe “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” . . .

  99. Truth says:
    @David In TN

    Maybe they should spend a few weeks snooping around Georgia…

  100. Truth says:

    You are much, MUCH, more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person.


    Don’t let facts interfere with a good horror movie.

    • Replies: @bj
    , @Svigor
  101. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    431 murders a year is a huge number of white people to be killed by another minority.

    There are 200,000,000 white people in America, Geoffrey.

  102. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    in an Izod shirt.

    Man, you really have been away for 20 years…

  103. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You are 100% right, Ach, but have you done it?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  104. Truth says:

    Hey Bro. your lost brother Jeff will give you the hookup on moving to Manilla.

  105. @EliteCommInc.

    I won’t get in the discussion here on the general argument, EC, but I will say this – I wrote that I’ve kept up with Mr. Styx’s coverage of this since the beginning. If you have not read his articles on VDare, with the DETAILS, then I don’t think you should comment on the particulars of the case. It’s not like you likely heard about it elsewhere (unless you live in Knoxville, TN). Don’t go tellling people the case didn’t involve racial hate, or go read it and then explain.

    BTW, there are over 330,000,000 people in the US, and that does not NECESSARILY count the illegal aliens – only the ones who want to come out of the shade, err, shadows, or HR Block offices (collecting refunds on their imaginary dependents). You were in the ballpark with your number, but more like in old Tiger Stadium – from that era!

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  106. @Haxo Angmark

    Knoxville – East Tennessee. Nashville is ~ 200 miles WNW.

  107. @Truth

    Like EC, you are in the ballpark with your rectally-extracted population estimate too. Your ballpark is Ebbetts Field. GO DODGERS!

    • Replies: @Truth
  108. @crimson2

    “Move to Dubai”

    I did. I was able to do that, I’m not an uneducated prole who sits in his hometown hoping “the jobs come back”.

    It was a damn sight more pleasant that Phoenix or Detroit.

    Don’t wave your flag at me, hick.

    “Frightened ass”

    If you were caught by two black crackheads on a Detroit street corner or were followed by three or four Cholos in a vehicle on foot you’d be scared to death. And rightfully so.

  109. @Truth

    Yes, I’ve never paid for cable TV but for~ 5 years, long ago, and that was splitting it with roommates – not completely my choice. The whole family has access to over-the-air digital TV from an antenna that I spent 1/2 a day mounting to the roof, but we have not used it in about 4 years.

    Hey Truth, since you asked:

    How to deal with Salesmen

    TV Force-Feeding in the Lobby

    Attempted evasion of LP force-feeding, Part *error: integer out of range*

    If you’re not careful, you might learn something ;-}

  110. @Truth

    In defense of African-Americans.

    We DON’T KNOW how many people a Tony Soprano orders dead in his career as a mob boss because they disappear under cement. He gets caught for one, but we all know he’s done 50.

    Its the same with a Jeffrey Dahmer. He’s caught for 17 but does not want to face the death penalty in some other state that he killed 10 other people.

    The white race produces not criminals, but FIENDS.

    As an educated African-American from the middle-class, I would not insult your intelligence by saying whites are all angels.

    Leatherface in the sticks is no better than some Crip in the hood.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  111. Anonymous [AKA "GeorgeCurzon"] says:

    A colleague was brutally beaten by black thugs in Raleigh last year placing him in the hospital for several months. At trial the perpetrators were declared innocent by the black jury. I was curious about media coverage. Apparently there wasn’t much, if any. Funny that!

  112. bj says:

    Black on White Crime murder victims for 2013…..

    • Replies: @Truth
  113. bj says:

    Documentary: The murders of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom

  114. prusmc says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Of the 100 largest cities or metropolitan areas in the US how many are less than 13 percent black and what are there names?

  115. In all fairness, there was Jeffrey Dahmer.

    His crimes against black males were fairly horrendous-I mean sodomizing a headless queer crackhead’s body for three days until it starts to decay is pretty awful.

    • Replies: @Truth
  116. @Achmed E. Newman

    You did not read what I wrote or you would not be making that comment furthermore.

    Suppose I actually did what you suggested, not having read the article ans subsequent material —

    Ignoring that the import that even if this were racially motivated — and others exposition does not make it so —-

    it does not constitute a trend toward blacks making war on whites that any unique policy be advanced . . .

    My import is to that . . .

    But had you actually read what I wrote, it indicates cased on the article’s —- rendering of events. I also acknowledged that I did not read the court transcripts. What I did read is here and referenced. In short you are incorrect about what I have read. Which I state in my comments.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  117. @RadicalCenter

    Hmmmm . . .

    I make that observation and I explain at some length why that is most likely the case. The issue of rape in this regard is one of the feminists and sadly whites calling themselves republicans and so called conservatives.

    It’s really very simple. Crimes such as rape remain high among people who know each other is some manner of relationship.

    Since more white women associate with black men then white men associate with black women all related said incidents, such as rape would higher among the black male – white female.

    Deciphering motive is not as simple as black and white. Certainly there are blacks who attack whites by virtue of their whiteness, but as sole cause/motive — rare. far rarer than vice versa. I would be disingenuous to say it doesn’t happen — but it remains rare.

  118. @EliteCommInc.

    I did indeed read what you wrote, at least past your comment in question, and further, until you got to a peak of stupidity that I couldn’t surmount.

    I have read Nick Styx’s reports on the case and the trial – no, not all the transcripts, etc., as I trust the guy on his reporting. What kind of random carjacking involves, rape, torture and burning people? I didn’t know that was the definition of “carjacking”. I’m learning something new from you every day, unfortunately.

    Could you just possibly just see this crime in your head and picture the races reversed? I’m not even talking about the racism involved. Mr. Styx’s point about the media is something you should be able to imagine. Do you not think that 4-5 white guys (and a woman) kidnapping a law-abiding young black couple, raping the woman in front of the guy to the point of internal wounds, sticking them in trash cans, burning them, etc. would not be on the cover of freaking Time magazine (if it’s still around) and the USA Today, with a special NY Times 2″ thick edition about it. The talk and writing about it would go on for about a decade.

    Get real, EC. Leave the house for a spell.

  119. @RadicalCenter

    correction: Since more white women associate with black men more than white men associate with black women all related said incidents, such as rape would higher among the black male – white female.

    and I certainly understand why whites might get in a hissy fit because my position requires treating blacks as people as opposed to enraged animals as a whole. —

    moving blacks out of their place as it were.


    Most white crack whores will be raped. Eventually.

    Rapes of black women involve white men raping black crack whores, truckers usually. This is usually random.

  121. @Achmed E. Newman

    How little you about crime. Random criminal events turn nasty — that is not unheard of. A criminal act starts out one way and heads in an entirely different direction — from the unanticipated factors involved.

    In the US the catch phrase is “crimes gone bad” or “crimes gone wrong”. That is real life. Are there factors regarding skin color involved in the case — or even the crime itself. I live in the US i expect color to be a part of all things — that’s US history, blacks did not invent that gambit, but I will admit they, many are willing to play it.

    How long you have read Mr. Styx’s articles has no bearing on my comments. I have no doubt he has quite a following — nothing in my comments references his popularity. But the import of his contentions. I did stray only in rare characterizations of a personal nature — i own that error. However, all of that is not pertinent to my comments on this crime, the nature of the reporting, the motives or whether this constitutes a case of a growing blacks out to get whites en masse or getting special treatment so as to allay justice. If anything the record is quite clear that the reverse is the case.

    I am not sure how dense you have to be to comprehend my simple position on the nature of color and acts of violence against whites for being white — I have already acknowledged that can happen. I also explain why the press coverage may be so warped in the minds of advocates for justice.


    Let me guess, what you are really in a huff about is my comments about muslims as embracing the country being more myth than reality.

  122. @Achmed E. Newman

    Now let’s take Mr Styx comments to me. He calls me a liar and deplorable. Now i get it tit for tat. He thinks my comments warrant a similar response. The difference is that i layed out why I help my position.

    Mr Styx, has provided no references that indicate that I am a liar or have engaged in misrepresenting a truth he merely asserts it. No explanation just name calling. I that is his response to my simple comments —-

    Trusting his objectivity, ability to explicate the issues regarding a murder case and the implied or explicit color issues by example with me wanting.

    Furthermore, as indicated — I did read the relevant material. Your complaints are thus put omn a shelf for disposal.

  123. @EliteCommInc.


    I come from the city where Jimmy Hoffa disappeared, and white crime is generally a premeditated endgame strategy.

    If blacks had killed Hoffa instead of Italians, they would have shot him in his car and bragged about it until street word went back to the local precinct. His body would have been found in the car with loads of forensic evidence. Within a week they would have been caught.

    Like Italian mob guys, white serial killers usually have a really elaborate MO that that consumes days of planning. There is the purchase of the 35 gallon drums. Then there is the acid used to dissolve the bodies. Dahmer made a note to avoid owners of vehicles, so that this did not raise questions.

    With black crime it is a random hit-or-miss thing usually stoked by blunts and 40 ounces of liquor and the power of the gun in their hands.

    Most white robberies are commercial crimes. They have paid some insurance guy to give them an address and valuables on a tip off, if it is a residence. They have the equipment to disable a wireless alarm. They’ve watched the target for a week and know when the owners go out.

    Blacks are not stealing paintings from art museums. It is more like the offenses that Alex committed in a Clockwork Orange.

  124. @Jeff Stryker

    Jeff, you say you know a lot about crime from living in Detroit, but you are in Dubai now. From all of your comments amalgamated, something tells me your knowledge of the ways of criminals comes from bootleg DVDs of The Sopranos, The Wire and CSI – Dubai that you watch from the Middle East. How many movies have you watched to get the data for your commenting here.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  125. @EliteCommInc.

    Your main points have been, that this horrific murder was NOT racial in nature and that the news media had no earthly reason to widely report the Knoxville horror case. Both of those points are complete BULLSHIT, and that’s why Mr. Styx called you out.

    Possibly he shouldn’t have called you a liar. Per Elwood Blues, it wasn’t a lie, just bullshit.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  126. @Jeff Stryker

    I am not inclined to entertain a discussion about who engages in more sophisticated crimes — in support of an ethos or polity to justify some manner of further disenfranchisement — that’s a rather peculiar twist. I will say this that crime is about social environment, poverty and finances than about skin color. And having long explicated the discussion on crime and social environment that clearly identifies as the holder of criminal activity regardless of color – we are back o the inevitable — that blacks hold a higher percentage of the environments that foster criminal or aberrant behavior.

    Since the majority of blacks do not engage in such behavior, it is safe to say that skin color os neither holder or cause. But I find it interesting that so many adhere to the manner in which the media have actually portrayed crime despite the fact that most blacks are not so inclined at the same time you claim that the media are color bias concerning how they deal with criminal activity —-

    You might want to take a look at the record and notice in what direction that bias has been.

    If the best response you can muster is a you’re fired — well that explains a good deal about integrity, and veracity of argument/discussion. Much like calling someone names and having no support for the accusation. One wonders if that is the best that whites can do — make unsupported and manufactured claims and then scream your fired when called on the matter.

    Being fired is a compliment under such circumstances — one wonders what intel community you are in.

    Integrity matters. And it is there I intend to stay in my place.

  127. @Jeff Stryker

    I don’t know where you’re from, but you either know nothing, or you’re a liar. Your credibility is zero.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  128. @Liza

    Thanks for the good word, Liza. I’m working on something preliminary to that, a collection of articles on civil war. I have to get my editor to publish a Knoxville book. I’ll work on him.

    • Agree: Liza
  129. @JudyBlumeSussman

    I am sure unsure how to respond here. You are amusing

    You apparently don’t think you have the right to travel in public spaces. I take it you get a permission slip to exit your home. And you don’t think you have the right to travel in public spaces —- well, I would agree that it is not explicit in the Constitution, but then neither is the right to eat pizza —-a food that has been around longer than you or I.

    I don’t feel the need to question the right to citizens to travel or eat pizza – if that dates me so be it.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  130. @bj

    ‘…People who have not dealt with or lived around black thug culture have no idea how blacks hate us because we are white. And you have the nerve to post your lies and apologia for black criminality and parasitism. Read the FBI crime statistics and you will know the enormous lie you perpetuate!…

    Don’t take it personally. Blacks can’t get along with Asians or Hispanics, either.

    I taught for five years in LA schools. An older teacher once commented that so long as a school was all black or all Hispanic, things were okay. But once either race went over about 20%, the shit hit the fan.

    …and of course we all remember what halted the ravages of the LA riots. It was a thin red line of Korean riflemen…or perhaps the media played that down. You could still see it when I went down to South Central LA a few years later, though. Burnt out strip malls right to up the edge of Korea Town. Then all of a sudden, no damage.

    Go figure.

  131. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘Jeff, you say you know a lot about crime from living in Detroit, but you are in Dubai now. From all of your comments amalgamated, something tells me your knowledge of the ways of criminals comes from bootleg DVDs of The Sopranos, The Wire and CSI – Dubai that you watch from the Middle East. How many movies have you watched to get the data for your commenting here.’

    You don’t expect him to be such a fool as to actually associate with Detroit blacks, do you?

    Anyway, it’s interesting to read the absurdities that ideology can drive people to utter. Kind of the inverse of global warming denialism, or something.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  132. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    According to the 2010–2015 American Community Survey, the racial composition of the United States in 2015 was:[56]
    Race Population (2016 est.) Share of total population
    Total 318,558,162 100%
    One race 308,805,215 96.9%
    White 197,362,672 62.0%
    Hispanic or Latino 55,199,107 17.3%
    Black or African American 40,241,818 12.6%
    American Indian and Alaska Native 2,597,817 0.8%
    Asian 16,614,625 5.2%
    Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 560,021 0.2%
    Other races 15,133,856 4.8%
    Two or more races 9,752,947 3.1%
    White and Black or African American 2,525,509 0.8%
    White and American Indian and Alaska Native 1,884,407 0.6%
    White and Asian 1,956,740 0.6%
    Black or African American and American Indian and Alaska Native 318,302 0.1%

  133. Truth says:

    Oh, you can list them all in a 4:50 video? Get scared!

  134. @Colin Wright

    Associating with Detroit blacks-

    The first time I heard of this was actually an unhappy poor little rich girl named Kathleen who was from my suburb and came from a rich background. Her father owned a company.

    Kathleen got into cocaine early-the 7th grade. This was 1985 or so, when blizzard of snow hit Detroit. Her family was so wealthy she could afford cocaine at 12 or 13. But by the 9th grade she was smoking crack with blacks.

    One occasion, they got her so high that she was incoherent and they all had sex with her and then left her half-naked in a near-epileptic crack-induced stupor in the middle of a road. She was 15.

    On another occasion, they broke into her parent’s house and stole her Dad’s tools from her garage.

    Finally, her Dad was banned from the country club because Kathleen led a black crackhead raid on the premises and stole from the caddie shack cash register.

    I knew another reformed white female crackhead-my landlady, who got clean and inherited an apartment building from her Dad. This was after years of rehab and stays in county jails. She was about 32 when I met her.

    In her case, the rape took place in Los Angeles. She’d moved there to smoke/sell crack and one day black gangsters lured her into a garage and 9 of them gang-raped her. Because she had drugs on her and warrants for drugs, she did not report the crime.

    I went to a Catholic school, thankfully. But a friend of mine was kicked out of our Catholic school for a prank and ended up in the public school system.

    His most horrific story was that of a junior high white girl from a nearby trailer park who’d tried to hang around a black gang in the school. They lured her into the toilet and stuck her head into an unflushed bowl until she nearly drowned. The Boys Toilet.

    Mostly though, my neighborhood was suburban and residential. The median income, like my parents, was $50,000 in the mid-1980’s. Or higher. In a working-class rustbelt city, that is considered upper middle class. So I had no direct exposure to black crime because the nearest black ghetto was 15 miles away.

  135. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘…I will say this that crime is about social environment, poverty and finances than about skin color…’

    This is such nonsense. I just moved to a small city in Oregon. It’s all mighty fine — but the unemployment rate is above average, there is a fairly large population of vagrants, and career opportunities seem to be pretty much nil. You can get people to do ridiculous amounts of work for you for remarkably little money.

    However, the area is pretty much lily white. As a result, while last year there were several hundred petty thefts, several score incidents of vandalism, several score assaults, and twelve burglaries, there were NO crimes of a more serious nature. NO rapes, NO murders, NO armed robberies. This for an area with sixty thousand inhabitants.

    I like that. I can handle the thought that my weedwhacker might walk off by itself if I forget to put it away, and I suppose if I head down to a suitably dubious-looking bar and pick a fight, I can get it, but nope — nothing really awful is going to come and find me.

    This in spite of the poverty, etc. But then, the town is virtually all-white, you see.

  136. @EliteCommInc.


    Steve Sailer noted that the average Italian mob boss manages to live in middle age.

    It could be IQ.

  137. @bj

    Name one sentence in which I contradict the FBI crime stats. name one comments that contradicts any crime state . . . this is an old discussion discussed at great length. No, I never challenge crime stats by the fbi. Nothing in my comments make that argument.

    The numbers are what the numbers are. I am keenly aware of the statistical percentage — they deal with a very select and small percentage of the black population. There are not representative of the whole — this is an old hat trick. And it is childish in its import. Get shown a picture of fifteen marbles of the fifteen some number are chipped. It happens that most of the chipped marbles are green. You then conclude Green are chipped. while that may be accurate to that set — it does not reference the whole or even the majority of chipped marbles. But a child unable to look beyond what he or she has been shown will tend to point to the marbles shown because that set reinforces their belief, even if that belief is inaccurate. that child might also then engage in name calling because in their myopia, they have ignored the whole. And according that whole, most blacks for not engage in crime against each other or whites.

    As for the rest of your assertions, well, it’s pretty clear the country does not promote black criminal behavior.

    All crime is horrific, some crimes more horrific than others. The crime of rape while a useful tool for manipulators actually is very rare. That is it rarely occurs. The chances of any one female being so offended is less than 1% and that a white woman is raped by a black male is even less than that. Registered to motive, that rate declines further.

    I have attempted to find data on hate and there just isn’t any i can find that demonstrate how many blacks hate whites. And none that indicates that blacks who hate whites will engage in criminal activity against them. Well, I cannot change the data sets nor am I inclined to change what the data sets actually indicate because it angers you so much, you lose the ability to think critically.
    applying the data sets to the whole to determine whether your conclusions are accurate is proper and the accepted means of engaging statistical data.

    Again, the name calling. Well, at least you attempted to explain why you think so – despite being off the mark because i never say the FBI stats are wrong. White flight has occurred for centuries, largely based on the type of thinking you exhibit here.

    Again, if you can locate a single sentence that indicates I am misrepresenting some data set as a deliberate attempt to mislead — have at it.

  138. @Achmed E. Newman

    Entirely false. I did not say that there was no reason this was not a national story. What i indicated is that there are more than 11,000 such murders and very few make the national news circuit. Your comment regarding my position is false – incorrect in total. And I never used the term or the context — they had no earthly reason — your attempt to tease that meaning out is unsupported by my comments. It is not even an intimation.

    I said that this case is not the harbinger case indicative of blacks engaging in criminal behavior against whites. I further said that the evidence is based on reporting is that this was a random act, a carjacking that became something more. There is not much in the way of evidence to suggest that it became something more based on the couples skin color.

    I also grant that skin color and criminal activity is a marriage that has been existence since blacks and whites have co-existed. It is a popular tool to justify a good deal of US polity. The record is clear on that.

    Further I challenge the notion that merely a black person committing a crime against a white person is by definition a crime motivated by color. It’s simplistic and unsupportable to the overall advance that blacks are out to get whites. I further make the challenge that the record if looked at in full would indicate quite the reverse as to motive. I also explain why the media coverage on the issue of crime and color has salience for question and even went a step further citing some data that is directly linked to that issue.

    No worse than that — the case he is making about skin color is neither new or all that rich in substance. It is however, incitement and manipulative and suits what appears to be the political agenda here. And that was my objection. And nothing more than that.

    As for last admission on Mr. Styxx behalf — I think the record of the matter is full and speaks for itself. However, a rose by any other name . . . . and to that end, no comment made by anyone suggests that I have engaged in distorting the truth, including Mr. Styxx. His response indicates some challenge to his credibility when examining emotionally charged issues and how his judgement is effected when reporting.

    But nothing I have said has suggests any attempt to distort the data or the narrative —

    but then maybe I just don’t know my place. I certainly grant myself of low intelligence — but I stand by comments and remain where I came in — based on the content of the what has transpired thus far.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @David In TN
  139. @Colin Wright

    “We only kill each other”

    Bugsy Siegel, Jewish gangster

    Let’s just be honest, some whites will have gang tendencies (Italians are sort of “off white”) and 1% bikers and mob guys will sometimes show up dead in the trunks of cars.

    Most non-Italians with gang tendencies tend to be bikers.

    Unless you want to go into some seedy social club or biker bar, you’re probably going to be unscathed by white organized crime (How would you even FIND a Russian mafioso?).

  140. @Colin Wright

    I don’t think any black criminal is capable of doing what Italians or Russians do. Crips are not going build car bombs like the Philly Mob Wars.

    Ted Bundy’s IQ was 136. Dahmer’s was an astounding 148.

    I’m pretty sure that there won’t be a black uni-bomber.

    Of course these sort of white sexual killers are hard to apprehend. Black rapes tend to be “Muh Dick” affairs.

  141. @EliteCommInc.

    ‘…I did not say that there was no reason this was not a national story. What i indicated is that there are more than 11,000 such murders…’

    That’s just it. There are not 11,000 ‘such murders.’ There are not 11,000 murders like this one every year.

    This was not an ordinary murder. It was a remarkably horrific one. While I can’t be bothered to comb the murders for that year, I imagine it was one of perhaps half a dozen similarly horrific crimes that occurred.

    …Real New York Post or National Enquirer headline material, by any non-racial measure. If both the victims and their killers had been white, I’m sure the story would have been splashed all over the magazine racks at supermarket checkout counters across the country. We would have had reams columns written by earnest pundits earnestly analyzing what decay in our society could have produced such an outrage.

    Yet coverage was decidedly muted. Go figure. Got an explanation for that?

  142. @Colin Wright

    Manson got more coverage when he died for ordering a similar crime.

  143. @Colin Wright

    As always these characters use two excuses for refusing to acknowledge black on white atrocities. One, “It rarely happens.” Two, “It’s just another crime so there is no reason to take notice.”

    That these two tropes are mutually exclusive, doesn’t occur to them.

    Yes, if the killers had also been white, it would have been a national morality play, such as Laci and Scott Peterson.

  144. @Colin Wright


    I’m not going to get into a debate over whose tragedy is worse. But given the brutality of some people, I have no doubt that there are similar cases and worse in that tragic number (11,000 plus if one includes all non-negligent homicides.). I don’t think you or I could know which cases are worse. For any surviving loved one — magnitude to the personal is a very dicey call. Have at it if you’d like — I am more than hesitant to try.

    Given that there are no average events in which someone takes another’s life without cause. And this couple and the tragedy that engulfs the people who love them would not make a case against someone else’s tragedy — even if they mat feel that way. At the moment the sentences have been administered with more it seems on the way and the guilty parties have confessed — which by any standard is more than some survivors of murdered loved one will ever experience. Magnitude — I’d have to know a lot more about the circumstances of the other 11,000 plus cases. I don’t, so I tread lightly.

    Interestingly enough:

    As i noted color and crime is not a new dynamic.

    Yet I have never heard of this case on the national circuit, the rape and murder of a child who happened to be black and the murderer was white — I suspect there’s a lot of crime of horrific incident that you and i will never hear about.

    As i recall I heard about the Knoxville case when i still watched television. I think it was covered by one of the network crime series, definitely on the ID channel more than once. I have explicated the matter from several perspectives. And the issue for me is not merely whether or not the networks are exercising more discretion concerning black criminal behavior than they have in the past. Anymore than black kids that go missing rarely if ever get the coverage that whites kids gone missing get. That has not been the main press on my account and i won’t allow to sidetrack from my main issues.

  145. @David In TN

    Clearly ,

    you are not responding to my comments, because if so, you have obliterated not only the context (troublesome I know) but what was stated.

    taking the life of another person may be rare, but is no less tragic and none of my comments suggest ignoring the matter.

    Whites killing whites are not as news stories are often treated locally.

  146. @David In TN

    correction: Whites killing whites as news stories are often treated locally.

  147. @EliteCommInc.

    Since you can’t (won’t) spell Mr. Stix’s name correctly, along with the usual apologias for black on white crime, there is no reason to treat your opinions on this case with any seriousness or respect.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  148. @David In TN

    I take full responsibility for the misspelling.

    As for the comment about respect — the failure on your part and that of others to respond to the content I noted — says all I need to know —

    an inability to admit when one is wrong takes many forms, not uncommon among them is name calling minus support, hiding behind technicalities of structure and utter ignorance how to apply data sets.

    Your inability to respond to the content does not in any manner effect the arguments I put forward. Though I appreciate all the emotional head banging — these are very emotional issues.

    I think the record is very clear.

  149. Anon[111] • Disclaimer says:

    > “Christian, 21, and Newsom, 23, made a handsome, young white couple”

    And thus, like Jesus, they must die:

  150. Anon[111] • Disclaimer says:

    Behold our Wakandan superiors:

    Blacks were the first humans. THEY created slavery in Africa…along with rape, war, torture, and cannibalism. But never the wheel.

    “There existed in many places an organized system of trade for the barter of human beings destined to be sacrificed for food…. [C]aptives were led from place to place in order that individuals might have the opportunity of indicating, by external marks on the body, the portion they desired to acquire….”

    [“A Voice From The Congo,” published in 1910]

  151. Anonymous [AKA "CId Campeador"] says:

    These vermin Cobbins and the other subhuman need to removed from the earth.
    It’s no more time for mourning, but time for revenge.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  152. Ace says:

    EliteCommie, if whites did this to blacks in 1930 we’d still be hearing about it. Emmett Till, for example. The eternal example of white perfidy. QED. When black savages commit a crime like this involving sadism and drawn out torture involving whites it drops into a black hole. Give your “rare human tragedy” garbage a rest.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  153. Ace says:

    It’s that the media don’t publish the story at all, nimrod. That’s the point. Get it now?

  154. Ace says:

    Movies are proof of nothing.

    Plea bargaining is an essential part of our system. Prosecutors are well aware of a defendant’s prior record and adjust their plea offers accordingly. Not all crimes are hideous; many crimes are committed by stupid rather than depraved people. They end up in jail or under supervision and get a chance to wake up. Two, five or ten more years on a sentence aren’t that educational for many crimes. There is more flexibility and rough justice in the system than you realize.

    “Future killers” don’t get their start in the plea bargaining process but because they are a witche’s brew of stupid, lazy, mean, and impulsive. They don’t show up after their first arrest with “future killer” written on their forehead.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  155. Ace says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What are you insinuating? Spit it out, man.

    What service was performed by Morgan?

    • Replies: @Pericles
  156. Ace says:

    The Knockout Game was a black innovation. I don’t remember any outrage on the part of the black “community.” But the gamesters were indeed ill mannered, which they have a right to be, of course.

  157. Dannyboy says:

    You sir are entirely full of shit, and like 99.9% of the rest of your ilk who minimize and make excuses for nigger crime, I would bet my left nut that you have never lived in a black majority area and probably reside in some lily white suburb right now.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Them Guys
  158. Dannyboy says:

    Exhibit A: Good ol’ Tim Wise, Jew crusader against “white privelige” and all around race hustler/pimp.

    Davidson Co Tenn. Suburb of Nashville. 97% white 0% black.


  159. @Dannyboy

    You’re right of course, but using words like that gives detractors ammunition.

  160. Dannyboy says:

    Sorry bud, you’re barking up the wrong tree. I could care less about their delicate sensitivities, their past injustices or the other litany of woes they and their shitlib handlers babble about incessantly.

    I lived and worked with those people in Baltimore City for thirty plus years, and unfortunately the majority of them that I had the displeasure of interacting with more than deserve the label.

    When they decide to stop acting the part, I’ll be more than happy to limit my use of the word.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Truth
  161. Them Guys says:

    Dannyboy: BINGO!! You wrote the almost Exact wordings of what I was going to write…Beat me to it.

    Every one of these totally disgusting replies by self hater, self loathing whites is so thick with it, it is close to unreal eh…..Arise as if on que, to defend African savage, sub human animalistic, Ebolaniqueous’s, and Tyroneous Apeizamongus’s. Yet if only these foolish idiots like Elitecomm and others et al, would just go check out the Online FBI’s posted yearly CRIME Stats reports and see what Real Actual Factual crime stats numbers of Violent crimes are committed by these savages, non of their false based replies would hold air.

    FBI compiled crime stats reports, contain what are The Best and Most complete totals ever complied, and are so considered by most, if not every of entire worlds crime interested concerns, and Police forces around the world. So fully complete are FBI stats reports, that the latest avail report is usually at least Two yrs behind. Due to so much to list and how its listed. Typically, its Now 2018, so best fbi report or newest avail report will likely be from year, 2016 avail now.

    FBI stats Get info of EVERY arrest, and every conviction etc from EVERY of over 100,000 separate Police forces, state and local and fed courts, and every and all of the over 100,000 authorities, authorized as Legit Legal entities who by Law Must list and report to fbi every arrest, charges, convictions, which happen within Their respective locality and jurisdiction.

    Once fbi gets it all, its broken down into many categories that also include..Race-Age-Gender-Location of suspooks-location crime committed at-etc. etc.

    ANY quick Look See research of said report stats, reveals that of the totals of aprox. a dozen or more listed crimes with Violence. Rape-Murder-etc. etc.

    Which stats also show every detail of perps age, race, gender, was a weapon used or involved? What Type weapon?…..What time of day or nite committed crime, was perp charged and convicted? or aquitted of crime? etc. etc. etc.

    Check fbi report crime stats and you shall find that, On average, per every year, going back as Far as fbi reports first began aprox. 50 years ago, and in almost all of, if not indeed in every year of reporting’s….African Black Male Perps make up a HUGE Majority of total number of Convicted Perps.

    Rape is listed as a Violent crime. in avg year in usa, Rapes of White women BY Black males Vs rapes of Black females By a White male perp…..Shows actual proven Undisputed total numbers as…Typically in any year listed as, about 35,000 White women Raped by savage black males…VS. Black Women raped by white male= aprox 5 that’s FIVE rapes per year!

    35,000 vs 5.

    In EVERY fbi listed category of Violent crimes, of which as prior stated it is at least a Dozen to perhaps 15 separate crime categories/types violent crime lists….Those in turn get broken down into yet More defined categories such as weapon or not?…..Age groups—Victims vs perp race etc.

    NO matter how badly these self hater whitey defenders, of vicious savage attacker perps known of as Savage African Black American Males, wish it were not so…..FACTS within each yearly FBI crime report shows, and shows it with zero possible way to dispute or refute the facts…..That show, African Black Males commit on average a ratio of Violent Crimes in general, and also Against Whites, in off the chart examples of 75% to as high as 89% depends on actual category/type violent crimes, are done BY Black Males. With NO wiggle room for any sort of disputing of or word-spinning and word twisting by even worlds best expert twisters and spinners.

    In other words…Blacks commit an avg within every category of a dozen of more separate crimes of Violence, about 75% to 89% crimes by Black Males aged 14/15 to aged 26 yrs old male black perps.

    Very similar percentages also when comparing crimes of violence committed by Blacks against White’s Vs Whites committed against Blacks….Total numbers, and percentage wise, show its a huge Joke as to what these unz forum Idiotic Whites who so defend blacks really are eh.

    I doubt such clowns who are self hater whites will ever actually check fbi reports though, as doing so will badly burst their Fantasy love affair with violence prone, sub human savage, African black males that so clouds the warped already minds of these idiotic self loather whites, posting totally wrong headed replies so obviously Not based on FBI crime stats, nor even based on reality eh.

    PS: Several websites contain an essay or listing of violent crimes that get committed against White’s, By Black African savage perps of said violence. Which also show the precise percentage difference between likelihood of being attacked by a black criminal if You are a White person.

    I do not recall exact percentages of every category of violent crime a White may have perpetrated upon them, By a Criminal Militant Violence Prone black male….However I do recall, Murder of a White, done By a black savage criminal was around…Whites are aprox. 53-Times more likely to get murdered By a Black criminal, than is a black victim of white murderer to occur.

    FIFTY THREE Times More Likely for a White person to get Murdered By a African Savage Black perp criminal…..Than for opposite to occur to a Black victim of white perp…..

    This takes into equation factors of black population numbers etc compared to white pop numbers.

    Bottom line when all facts and numbers/percentages get included properly…A White person is 53-Times More likely to get Murdered By a Black perp, than for exact opposite to happen with black as victim of whitey….Put That in your pipe and smoke on it eh, you self hater foolish whiteys at unz forum.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @dcite
  162. @Dannyboy

    Several years ago, his address was on the internet. Out of curiosity, I drove by his house. It was what is called a “McMansion.”

    I drove around the area and there wasn’t a nonwhite person in sight. There was a golf course five minutes away. On this weekday afternoon a couple of 70-something white men were playing.

  163. anarchyst says:

    I beg to differ…”plea bargaining” can (and should be utilized) as a useful tool to exact a true and fair application of “justice”, as you say, but is commonly used to “keep the system running and functioning” especially with the amount of “defendants” passing through the system. There are many laws that people run afoul of that should not be laws, at all. The threat of a long prison sentence, or even “pre-trial detention” which can stretch for YEARS, quite often is a subtle but effective way to get a person to agree to a plea bargain.
    Plea bargaining IS abused. There are people who are truly innocent that agree to a plea bargain just to get out of jail. Of course, their charges and convictions follow them around for life.

    • Replies: @Ace
  164. anarchyst says:

    Here are true (corrected) stories about “icons” of the so-called “civil rights” movement . . .

    There is much more to the “Emmett Till” story that is not widely known. Of course, killing him was wrong, (and made him into a “martyr” of the black “civil-rights” movement). but–it is not generally known that Emmett Till was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs.–NOT a “little boy” as some media types tried to portray him as. He was a known womanizer and attempted to take his cocky “Chicago ways” in dealing with women to the Deep South. He was sent to live with relatives in the South because his Chicago relatives could not handle him. He had a “cocky attitude” and bragged about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea in the South. . . According to published accounts, Mr. Till did not just “whistle” at a white woman, but grabbed, manhandled and fondled a married white woman. In Southern culture, this was, and still is, the ultimate form of disrespect. Despite Mr. Till’s relatives’ attempts to spirit him “out of town” to avoid retribution by the woman’s relatives and townspeople, his cocky attitude “got in the way”, similar to the way that “young master Trayvon’s” attitude got him killed. Despite being given numerous “chances” to apologize for his behavior, he was defiant to the end. IF he had apologized for his behavior, he would still be alive today. In fact, one of his killers was a black man.
    It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes. Maybe “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” . . .

    Rosa Parks was not the “ordinary” black woman that so-called historians made her to be. She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted” in order to advance the cause of black “civil-rights” to which she was successful.
    Approximately a year previous to Rosa Parks’ “bus ride” and refusal to vacate her seat, a REAL ordinary black woman did the same thing. This black woman received NO publicity or support from the NAACP or other black “civil-rights” organizations. You see, she was an unmarried black woman with children. According to the black civil-rights crowd, this would not do. They wanted someone who was “squeaky clean” without any “baggage”. In fact, the “white guy” sitting behind her was part of the “set-up”. He was a UPI reporter, contracted to “stage” the event…not only that, in the photo there is no one else on the bus. Ms. Parks could have sat wherever she wanted.
    Hence, Rosa Parks made (fabricated) history . . .

    Martin Luther (Michael) King was well-known for frequenting prostitutes, beating and abusing them while exclaiming that he “finally felt like a white man”. His own associates have stated as such. He also plagiarized his college papers and doctoral thesis. Of course, this was overlooked because of his status. King was also a communist.

    Jesse Jackson used to brag to his associates on how he would spit in the food of white patrons of the restaurant he worked at.

    There are many more fabrications of history that were used to lend “legitimacy” to the so-called “civil-rights” movement . . .

    • Replies: @Ace
  165. @Achmed E. Newman


    I haven’t had cable TV in five years. But I did recently acquire a Roku, to be able to watch streaming movies from Netflix. Of course there are almost countless other channels available for streaming. Being unacquainted with most, I added a few that looked like they might be interesting. Recently I spent a couple of hours checking out their programming.

    It was all but sickening, a glimpse into the malevolent chasm that is popular culture (and even supposedly high-class “educational” culture).

    Horror movies I’d never even heard of, by the carload. Gay TV. Muslim TV. Ancient dimwitted American TV shows. Nonstop old movies that in a few cases appeared promising until I clicked on them — and found them in terrible shape, so fuzzy looking as to appear seen through water. And the stuff supposedly for educated people … free for a week, then you must pay to watch, and with a perceptible leftist slant whenever political issues were involved. “TED talks” by a variety of social engineers and progressive cranks.

    In other words, more garbage streamed than was ever available with cable, including international channels showing the same kind of rubbish.

    Not only politics, but daily life is downstream from culture. And the culture is bad, really bad.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  166. Ace says:

    Thanks. Now we know THE REST of the story as Paul Harvey used to say.

    I remember that Till was most disrespectful to the white woman but did not know he had touched her or that he had opportunities to apologize. I know that the Parks tale was a setup and there was a UPI reporter ready to dump it into the wide river of MSM story telling.

    MLK was a disgraceful individual and since I read the Chronicles account of his plagiarism I’ve refused to refer to him as “doctor.” He said some inspiring things about race but they never proved to be as meaningful to blacks as to whites White libs couldn’t get enough of it and to this day refuse to acknowledge black criminality, hatred, parasitism, sexual irresponsibility, academic failure, rejectionism (think “Chrishundra” and “Crenshanda”), and city-destroying ways.

    All of these fairy tales or nightmares are either propagated or concealed by the MSM. Thanks to the internet, you have to be in a bubble of delusion to believe the old fairy tale of black and white comity.

  167. Ace says:

    “Keep[ing] the system running and functioning” is justice because the criminal justice system as it works day in and day out delivers just that, if erring on the side of leniency, but not egregiously so.

    The number of offenders is too great to do away with plea bargaining but that system unquestionably delivers an escalating level of punishment if offenders choose to ignore the opportunity to go straight presented in lenient treatment for first offenders. I represented a hard core drug dealer caught selling to an undercover police officer. The prosecutor wouldn’t budge off of a plea offer of 14 or 17 years. I can’t remember which. He would have gotten more had he gone to trial and conviction was a certainty for his having sold to a cop. The plea bargaining system in his case saw leniency for first offenders in the rear view mirror where this guy was concerned. In what way did offering a plea deal subvert or deny justice in that case.

    “Pre-trial detention” is not a routine feature of the CJ system. Again, if the offender is a new entrant to the system or if his offense is minor, bailing out is easy and the expense thereof is part of the “message” to him. You posit inescapable pre-trial detention that simply does not happen to first and minor offenders.

    If innocent people are caught up in the CJS that is not a defect of the system of plea bargaining. That is an aspect of erroneous or malicious prosecutorial judgment. That is the ultimate horror for an innocent person. In six years of criminal practice I saw lots of young, stupid, impulsive, drug-addicted, and TBI-afflicted defendants and only one guy I thought was innocent. The case against him hinged on the testimony of his estranged wife and the prosecutors gave it undue credit and, I think, allowed themselves to be caught up in the furor over “domestic abuse” that afflicts our society. Those were otherwise honorable men and I by no means claim that my perception (that the wife’s testimony was not trustworthy) should be taken as unchallengeable. For some reason, though, they were determined to nail him.

    Remember too that the majority of offenders are dealt with by means of a relatively small number of plain vanilla offenses. Few face really exotic offenses hidden in the back pages of the statute books.

    Give me the American CJS any day, every day. There are the Ruby Ridge, Waco, Lavoy Finicum, and other incidents chronicled at the blog Prol Libertate. I view those as exceptional cases, however, though one has to be brain dead not to see the fascism creeping over the Western world. The U.K. legal system is utterly corrupt in my view.

  168. Truth says:

    I lived and worked with those people in Baltimore City for thirty plus years,

    I hear my boy Jeff and his family have an open room…

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Dannyboy
  169. Truth says:
    @Them Guys

    So what are you trying to imply?

    • Troll: Them Guys
  170. @Truth

    Easy enough to start anew overseas when you are 25 with no dependents but when you are 50, it is a different matter.

    The problem too, is selling your house. If your property is worth nothing, as property in much of Baltimore would be due to the fact that nobody would want to be in harm’s way, you cannot liquidate.

    Remember that Linh probably has dual citizenship and property in Vietnam-family, friends in low places, resources.

  171. dcite says:

    Just offhand I could think of 12 people.. Almost every white person in my more or less middle class line up of friends and acquaintances has been themselves, or knows someone, or is related to someone, who was robbed, raped (sister of friend when she was a teen, also he tried to kill her), assaulted, murdered (father of a friend), beaten up (lots, some killed) or otherwise badly interfered with, by blacks. The white on black harassment and crime is much less. And as for historic crime, give us the stats please. White on black rape is extremely rare, so rare that it seems strange it suddenly just stopped because blacks got their rights. If one middle class person who lives in an average area of a large metropolis, as did the aforementioned victims, can come up with that number … yes. We are indeed surrounded by potential predators and the only reason there are not way more murders of whites is because we try so hard (and discretely if we are “liberals”) to keep away from most blacks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  172. dcite says:
    @Them Guys

    Every one of these totally disgusting replies by self hater, self loathing whites is so thick with it, it is close to unreal eh…..Arise as if on que, to defend African savage, sub human animalistic

    Probably it hides their fear. If they treat it almost dismissively, it’ll just go away. Then too, they concentrate, as we all must in day to day life at the office, on those blacks who are just normal or decent people. Plenty of them too. It’s just that humans must pay more attention to dangerous signals. It’s a survival function.

  173. @Dannyboy

    Tim Wise is not a Jew. For some strange reason, he likes to pose as one, but his mother is not a Jew, and he has never claimed to have converted to Judaism.

    I believe he once claimed that his paternal grandfather was a Jew, but that’s irrelevant.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Svigor
  174. @Nicholas Stix

    Considering the purported influence and power Jews have, I’m surprised that loads of people are not attempting to impersonated them.

    The bit about Wise’s grandfather attacked by white Supremacists seems like “street credibility”.

  175. Dannyboy says:

    Oh yeah, well I hear there’s lots of nice cheap housing for you and EliteComm in West Baltimore.

    Bring the wife and kids and settle in with the objects of your misguided affection.

    I won’t be holding my breath. 😉

  176. @Anonymous

    I would grant that revenge is part of the criminal justice process. And while may want to take personal action — that’s a game I won’t enter. But given the articles in this case, however frsutratingly slow — there have been convictions and sentences.

    i won’t banter about whether said penalties were just —

    I often ask god for justice and vengeance for less than murder.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  177. Wow. I was done here. excuse the delay. it was my understanding that I had rested my case and it appears there’s nothing new in the subsequent objections save new issues irrelevant to the article or the bankrupt attempt to make this about more than this select group of men – to this random act of violence.

    I am unclear what this has to do with the case at hand.

    It doesn’t. However, nothing in my comments indicates that there are no black people who engage in crimes against whites. Nothing even suggests that criminal behavior by anyone should be condoned. So this observation has no relevance to my view of crime, the current issue, or whether as has been indicated there is no en masse case for fear are going to “take out whites” or even desire to do so.

    Such notions are irrational and without support. whoever, such criminal acts are rare – not unheard of.

    Having previous laid out the historical parameters and case on more than one occasion on this issue, as I have previously stated, i won’t bother doing so again.

    I think, if you care to take history to motive — you will find that the weight falls heavily against whites. I guess it worth repeating that the structure is motive, not merely black on white crime or vice versa. With respect to the “knock out” game we know that motive ti skin color was in play — however, since the knock out game also included acts against other skin colors including blacks — it cannot be completely attributed to color save in some cases.

    Yo make a case regarding hate crime you have to note the motive, in the case of color — anyone attempting to make a case that blacks attack more white based soley on skin color is climbing a hill of which they will never reach the top.

    It seems rather odd that this has to be repeated to people attempting to make sure I am kept in my place. Better IQ is no indication of quality thinking or comprehension it seems. You are welcome to make your case based on motive not merely the superficial by products of the incidents.

    so when speaking of these types of crimes we are talking about hate crimes i hate the term and the practice a crime is a crime is a crime — motive of hate helps explain why but it should not be a crime.

    Nonetheless, that’s the way that bet addresses these complaints according to the FBI: Note — actual motive here — not merely the demographics

    In 2016, race was reported for 5,770 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

    46.3 percent were White.
    26.1 percent were Black or African American.
    7.7 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
    0.8 percent (46 offenders) were Asian.
    0.8 percent (45 offenders) were American Indian or Alaska Native.
    0.1 percent (7 offenders) were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
    18.1 percent were unknown.

    If you are going to call someone a liar — it’s provably a good idea to be able to back it up.

  178. @EliteCommInc.

    Hood rats are not that bothered by jail. The offenders were homeless at the time. If you live in complete squalor with no AC and rats then a clean antiseptic cell is nice.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  179. Hate crime victims:

    By bias motivation (Based on Table 1.)

    An analysis of data for victims of single-bias hate crime incidents showed that:


    58.9 percent of the victims were targeted because of the offenders’ bias against race/ethnicity/ancestry.
    21.1 percent were victimized because of bias against religion.
    16.7 percent were targeted because of bias against sexual orientation.
    1.7 percent were victims of gender-identity bias.
    1.0 percent were targeted because of bias against disability.
    0.5 percent (36 individuals) were victims of gender bias.
    Further examination of these bias categories showed the following details:

    Racial/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias (Based on Table 1.)

    Among single-bias hate crime incidents in 2016, there were 4,426 victims of race/ethnicity/ancestry motivated hate crime.

    50.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias.
    20.5 percent were victims of anti-White bias.
    10.9 percent were victims of anti-Hispanic or Latino bias.
    4.3 percent were victims of bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group).
    3.8 percent were victims of anti-American Indian or Alaska Native bias.
    3.1 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias.
    1.3 percent were victims of anti-Arab bias.
    0.2 percent (9 individuals) were victims of anti-Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander bias.
    5.7 percent were victims of anti-Other Race/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias.
    Religious bias (Based on Table 1.)

    Of the 1,584 victims of anti-religious hate crimes:

    54.4 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.
    24.5 percent were victims of anti-Islamic (Muslim) bias.
    4.1 percent were victims of anti-Catholic bias.
    3.0 percent were victims of bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
    2.5 percent were victims of anti-Other Christian bias.
    1.9 percent were victims of anti-Eastern Orthodox (Russian, Greek, Other) bias.
    1.4 percent were victims of anti-Protestant bias.
    0.8 percent were victims of anti-Hindu bias.
    0.5 percent were victims of anti-Mormon bias.
    0.5 percent were victims of anti-Sikh bias.
    0.4 percent were victims of anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
    0.2 percent were victims of anti-Jehovah’s Witness bias.
    0.1 percent were victims of anti-Buddhist bias.
    5.7 percent were victims of bias against other religions (anti-other religion).
    Sexual-orientation bias (Based on Table 1.)

    Of the 1,255 victims targeted due to sexual-orientation bias:

    62.7 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-gay (male) bias.
    21.6 percent were victims of anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (mixed group) bias.
    11.7 percent were victims of anti-lesbian bias.
    2.2 percent were victims of anti-bisexual bias.
    1.8 percent were victims of anti-heterosexual bias.
    Gender-identity bias (See Table 1.)

    Of the 131 victims of gender-identity bias:

    111 were victims of anti-transgender bias.
    20 were victims of anti-gender non-conforming bias.

    I am going to infer that most of the crimes against blacks were committed by whites who far and away lead in crimes committed in either skin color, religion or ethnicity were motives

    Discrimination of any kind including criminal conduct based on color is not an argument that whites can win by the numbers – when color is motive.

  180. Again, excuse the delay here — i was done with this gambit a wjile ago.

    These are new and irrelevant and/or old issues

    But for that number to be relevant to the entire black population you would need to have the same data sets . . . each representing not color only but similar background, end environment

    Good grief, No matter how many times this nonsense gets put into the right model m someone repeats the same old tired irrelevant paradigms. The numbers have to be representative of the entire population to make the claims yo constantly make and when they are so compared and enumerated out — the relevance is just too small to make generalize able statements about the whole — because skin color is benign.

    It never ceases to amaze the lack of statistical content to meaning crime advocates have. Even someone with my low IQ understands that criminal behavior represents a small portion of US society and that includes the black population.

    I have learned to be generous —

    let’s say that every prisoner 2,000,000 are all black. That’s 5% of the population. that would mean some 95% of the black population never see a prison. Now given the rather unsupported rational that blackness is by dna linked to crime, It’s clear that environment is the key. As it with nearly most behaviors of choice, not something as artificial as skin color. Now for all of US history whites have short cutted color to aberrant behavior ans used those short cuts to support a deviance to skin color —

    Once a little research is done on the modality and proper association is made to the numbers — it stops having much value

    The consequence of course once confronted

    the name calling, the replay of stats, the whining about how how those of ho understand the numbers to content and context are said to be coddling criminals and there’s shortage of weak minded high tooling writers and supposed men of moral aptitude jump on the same band wagon as if “gotya.”

    just because more people restate falsehoods, doesn’t make it true.

    But it’s takes far more integrity than exhibited thus far for me lay any hope that such people will grow up from teething on mother’s milk of black guy hits white guy, must be a “color hate thing. Unfortunately as I would note the fbi stats — whites seem more prone to such behavior — ohhh wait a minute,

    a reflection of the historical record — when it comes to color whites hold all the trophies of such violence. it will be a while before the 41 million blacks catch up to the more than 200, 000,000 plus whites.

    By way of example, again —

    If all the prisoners in were black, they would still represent less than

  181. the largest and most salient threat to the US remains our southern border and careless immigration policy — even one supposedly based on merit.

    correction: one can ignore that last misplaced line in the previous comments

  182. @Pretzel Yardstick

    Yep, that’s the way I feel about it, PY. With the ridiculous PC agenda-pushing commericals on regular TV, when I’m at hotels in the evening, I can’t even watch Seinfeld anymore, even with the mute button.

    I don’t mind an old un-PC movie that I get once in a while, but when I was at a friend’s house one time, he had Netflix, and every single movie out of 6 or 7 I thought of from scratch was one they didn’t have on there. Hmmmm… I guess Netlix does not have the same taste as me.

  183. @Jeff Stryker

    Neither recidivism, no the argument that prisons create better criminals or more effective or viscious criminals is not color restricted —

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  184. Pericles says:

    Seems pretty clear to me, Ace.

    • Replies: @Ace
  185. Pericles says:

    Lol, this article apparently merited a concerted multitroll wall of text pro operation. Well done.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  186. @EliteCommInc.

    “Whites in Prison”

    I don’t think anyone expects a Tony Soprano-type mob boss to improve in prison. The idea is to keep him off the street. The same could be said for bikers, since Italians and mafia are really an East Coast thing.

    Probably a young black male offender who went into prison at 21 and came from a horrendous background can possibly be reformed.

    But an Italian mob boss in his 40’s…fuggeddaboutittt.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  187. bj says:

    Black anger is largely socially engineered by attributing their low income and high crime rates to white racism; rather than to the reality that blacks have lower intelligence than Asian and white races.

    And a cultural, political, and economic disaster for the United States.

  188. @bj

    “Lower intelligence”

    Dahmer had an IQ of 148-that is NASA-level and it is mentioned in the Sopranos that Tony’s is 136.

    Society suffers much more when ONE white goes of the rails like Jeff or Tony and decides to be rapist or a gangster due to their intelligence.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  189. Truth says:


    Been reading this site for 10 years and no one has ever brought your brilliant hypothesis up yet.

    and this Taylor guy? Invaluable new reference.

  190. @Jake

    Thank you for your kind words.

    “May the Lord bless your work and protect you.”


  191. @Jeff Stryker

    Note: I did not say a better citizen, a better person, nor a reformed criminal I said a better criminal.

    There’s a difference.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  192. @bj

    While I have no doubt that social engineering has an impact on blacks, whatever number that may be are angry — I suggest based on the comment, you do a bit of research on anger and it is more often than not the result of perceived and or actual injustice — the role of IQ in that process is more likely to make those perceptions more acute.

    When people white about black agitators or troublemakers, they are not talking about the least intelligent of the population. Still dancing on the surface of observation.

    Anger is not by definition a sign of low IQ

  193. @EliteCommInc.

    Lacking the resources of good lawyers, bribed judges or general cunning that Italians or Jeffrey Dahmer’s have, the average black shooter is in prison at 22. Sometimes earlier.

    They get out at the age of 45.

    Crime is a young man’s game.

    So in a way, they are reformed. You’re not a gang-banger when you’re a 45 year old who spent your life in prison. You’re worn out.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  194. @Jeff Stryker

    There’s so much wrong with your brief post that i hardly know where to begin. First of all, murderous criminality is wildly more rampant among blacks. The cherry picking of a couple of examples of white killers is irrelevant at best. Look up the FBI stats if you really don’t know.

    Then there’s the problem that one of your two examples is a character in a fictional television show, and you don’t appear to understand the difference.

    Then there’s the problem that you believe NASA staffers are extremely intelligent, and that Jeffrey Dahmer is apparently a hero of yours. And so on. I’m not wasting another minute on you.

    • Agree: Svigor
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  195. @Meretricious

    FBI Stats

    Black hoodrats don’t have the manpower or resources of a John Gotti to be responsible for 50 or 100 homicides before RICO takes them down.

    The average hoodrat is caught for the first murder he commits. Bloods and Crips cannot make a Jimmy Hoffa disappear.

    Fact 1

    White criminals like Jeffrey Dahmer or John Gotti have high IQ’s (And we are talking about 135 or 140 Mensa-level). Gacy, Manson, Bundy all had IQ’s in the 130-140 range.

    Blacks are caught IMMEDIATELY.

    Show me one black who goes to court 3 times like Gotti and beats a Federal rap because he had $100,000 to bribe a jury member and a lawyer that cost $5000 an hour.

    Fact 2

    It is very tragic when a black youth dies at 18. If a 40 year old shitbag Italian “associate” disappears-and every cop and Fed knows that when one disappears for 24 hours that he is dead-there is no public outcry.

    Fact 3

    Black crimes are a result of Id aka “Muh Dick” or “We beefin” or “Get Cheeze for Glass Rose and Choir Boy to Sizzle Dem Boulders Dawg”.

    This is not the same a Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy who plans masturbatory ritualistic sex crime down to a T like dressing up as a clown as Gacy did.

    • Replies: @Truth
  196. Svigor says:
    @Colin Wright

    Chinese Asabiyyah.

    It’s time for White Asabiyyah.

  197. Svigor says:

    The color issue is precisely why this story was suppressed, you gimp-mask-wearing cuck piece of shit.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  198. “Then there’s the problem that one of your two examples is a character in a fictional television show, and you don’t appear to understand the difference.”

    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve encountered people who think To Kill a Mockingbird (book and film) happened in real life.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  199. Svigor says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    When they’re widely understood to be common events, that makes sense. When they aren’t, you’re looking at a J-Left Schelling point.

    Everybody knows the score on dog bites man. Tell people the score on Black rapes/murders White and you get pushback instead.

  200. Svigor says:

    Did your mommy teach you to always change the subject when you’re losing, shitbird? The media IS the war on Whites.

    Murder is a rare and tragic event.

    Maybe you were raised in an orphanage, maybe that’s your problem. To everyone else, murder impacts a lot more people than just the victim. All of his friends and family are victims, too. All of those people have suffered from the murder.

    So go ahead and multiply those stats by a few dozen, maybe a hundred…

    Not being emotionless spergs, most people understand this without being told.

    Actually, you’re probably not even a sperg. Aren’t they usually intelligent and good at pattern-recognition? You’re just some dullard J-Left hack, you probably don’t notice the contradiction when the J-Left media goes on to wave bloody shirts over the rare mass shootings and use those statistical anomalies to try to trample the 2nd Amendment rights of 300+ million Americans.

    A sperg would at least notice.

  201. @David In TN


    If you had to choose between stealing $1oo,000 from a Crip or stealing it from John Gotti, who would it be?

    I’m guessing that you’d choose the Crip if because blacks don’t have the initiative or organization to find you in the South of France.

    When are Crips going to rig a car bomb? They are controlled by impulses such as “Muh Dick” and “Glass Rose and Choirboy to sizzle Dem Boulders”.

    Is black crime much more rampant. Yes, absolutely. Are black criminals as organized as Italians or Russians? No, their IQ is usually borderline-retarded, as the death penalty opponents argue (They don’t argue against executing a Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy).

  202. @Jeff Stryker

    I am not sure what you are on about. It is possible to bereformed from crimiunal behavior and many prisoners accomplish that while in prison.

    My comments have nothing to do with prisoner reformation — that is not what the term “better criminal” refers to.

    Correction: When people write about black agitators or troublemakers, they are not talking about the least intelligent of the population. Still dancing on the surface of observation.

  203. Svigor says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Crime victimization reports show almost exactly the same racial breakdown as arrests and prosecutions. Actually Blacks come out looking slightly worse in the victim reports – in other words, the system is a bit kinder to them than it should be; they’re accused a bit more often than they’re prosecuted. Meaning, the disparity is something you pulled from your lying ass. If cops were sweeping White-on-Black crime under the rug, there would be a substantial disparity between victimization report stats and prosecution stats, but there isn’t.

    Then there’s the fact that (((Big Media))) would go ape shit and make national news out of any incident of cops sweeping White-on-Black crime under the rug, as they are always on the hunt for the Great White Defendant or evidence of White Privilege and White Supremacy. All these victimized darkies have to do is pick up the phone and call CNN.

    As for unreported crimes, gimme a break. That goes both ways (probably much worse in the other direction, owing to shitlib masochism), but the ginormous amount of REPORTED BLACK-ON-BLACK crime makes it pretty obvious that there’s no epidemic of unreported White-on-Black crime. Blacks pick up the phone and dial 911 on Whitey just fine.

    Sure, there’s unreported criminal-on-criminal crime, which goes both ways; White criminals don’t report on Black criminals stealing their drug money either. The difference is, it’s probably a lot more common.

    I’m from Missouri, I know you’re full of shit.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  204. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Get Cheeze for Glass Rose and Choir Boy to Sizzle Dem Boulders Dawg”.

    Can anyone recommend a 30-year-old-midwest-ebonics-translator app?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  205. Svigor says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Buy the time” K so you’re a negro. Mystery explained.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  206. Svigor says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Most black crime is random, and of a spur-of-moment opportunistic whim.

    For example, the Outlaw MC has a clubhouse in Detroit and not one motorcycle is stolen.

    Was your example deliberately chosen to undermine your point? Or are you just a room-temp-IQ negro?

  207. @Svigor

    I think you had better read my comments again. I noted the frame in which the story was set. I even acknowledge its possibility. However, I also noted that there are thousands of horrible crimes and provided examples, one of which a writer made the same arguments concerning a young black child. His contentions are the same.

    Now had you actually paid attention to what I wrote as opposed to jumping on your ohh so predictable “hobby horse”. You know that I dealt with the issue head on and went further to provide articles that address how the media tackles criminal related news events. That is nothing but tackling the issues head on.

    Also laced in the article for all to read was the suggestion that blacks in general are getting away criminal behavior because they are black and this case is an indication that blacks en mass were out to get whites. Which of course goes to the matter of crimes based on color — thoroughly addressed.

    Based on the record, my response was dealt with the matter head on to include a multiplicity of other suggestions.

  208. Svigor says:

    Because non-negros largely avoid negros, whether by happenstance or good sense.

    • Replies: @Truth
  209. Svigor says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    In defense of African-Americans.

    We DON’T KNOW how many people a Tony Soprano orders dead in his career as a mob boss because they disappear under cement. He gets caught for one, but we all know he’s done 50.

    Its the same with a Jeffrey Dahmer. He’s caught for 17 but does not want to face the death penalty in some other state that he killed 10 other people.

    The white race produces not criminals, but FIENDS.

    Yeah, Jewtube fiends like you, jonesing for their next fix of bullshit.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  210. Svigor says:

    The difference is that i layed out why I help my position.

    No one is particularly interested in bandying words with you, subliterate. It would be like scraping somebody else’s dog’s shit off the sidewalk for free.

  211. Svigor says:

    Okay, enough of this retard. Ignored.

  212. Svigor says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    From his Wikipedia page:

    Wise has said that when he was about 12 years old his synagogue was attacked by white supremacists

    Probably more than one lie in that statement, but he does seem to be implying he was raised Jewish and has a background of Judaism (later the article says he’s non-practicing, claims to be a Jew, etc.).

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  213. Svigor says:

    It shrivels away to nothing with two or three uses of the “ignore” function.

  214. @Svigor

    Speaking of changing the subject. My previous comments make note of the impact of crime. In fact, the entire discussion related to how the stories are covered and why is directly related — impact. Whether said impact gets national attention has multiple factors, how many as well a who are key. I referenced that more than once. I would read my comments in full, not merely cherry select the sections that rile your feathers.

    But impact has nothing to do with the number of incidence to the population. That is an entirely different question. Suppose that a person is murdered and has only three people in the world that care about him or her. In a population of 1000 people that would be a rare occurrence. Now suppose a person gets murdered who has an extended family of 20. The fact that more people were immediately impacted by that loss (depending on the nature of the relationships) does not change the number of incidence. The act itself would still be rare.

    The challenge in these discussion for people like me, is that we will always be outnumbered by people like you and Mr. Stix who abuse the data to advance an agenda.

    instead of acknowledging the error, you engage in name calling, spurious unsupported accusations and pandering to the choir who are just as careless with data and argument as yourself.

    Obviously you assume my perspective is one of a liberal — obviously wholly ignorant that conservatives are prudent when it comes to applying data sets to social polity. Because while the numbers may be accurate, what they mean, and how they are applied can be tricky.

    No black person who knows me, no liberal, no democrat, no one who has ever read my views, concludes I am a left wing advocate. I am not sure how to categorize people who based on random acts of violence in which blacks engage with whites is a sign that all 41 million blacks are out to get them, especially by violence.

    Paranoid maybe. Opportunistic . . . I am just not sure.

  215. @Svigor


    I missed the other new topic you introduced that of mass shootings

    They are rare and they are tragic.

  216. @Svigor

    How would you know that? Missouri has few blacks outside of St. Louis.

    Are they car jacking jet skis and sticking up the 4-H club or what?

    • Replies: @Truth
  217. @Svigor

    I’m an ethnic white from the Northeast.

  218. @Truth


    African-American perpetrators often seek funds to continue their consumption of crack cocaine.

  219. @Svigor

    Every other Jew in New York carries a piece. There is no way that they want the .45 Autos in the closets of their Lower East Side apartments seized by the government.

    Don’t you remember the Goetz case?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  220. @Svigor


    Sure i can clarify my sentence —

    I Laid out my case in detail, that should help.

    Never miss a beat to resort to personal attacks. You should have ignored my responses altogether. You have only dug yourself and the author of the article a much deeper hole, hiding behind my technical errors won’t help your case.

  221. @Svigor

    Laughing . . . .

    last refuge of the disingenuous — technical writing errors.

    The one sent in to save the day, managed to make the advance of the article worse. Nonetheless the predictable announcement of success —


  222. Ace says:

    Well, ok. I was thinking it was bad form to rely on the likes of Rachel to establish that Zimmerman is or might be a homosexual but Reg is correct that it was good to gain this new insight into the reasons for Saint Trayvon’s actions. I’ve seen that nowhere else.

  223. Ace says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I apologize for my comment. Please see my response to Pericles at 231.

  224. @Reg Cæsar


    No one is clear of the motives that night. Trayvon Martin was headed home and was followed for what was considered suspicious behavior, intent, presence and for whatever reason, an altercation took place. As only one person is alive to tell the tale — we have no idea of the mind of the other.

    All the discussions about motive by commentators, or reporters are speculative —

    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @ElteCommInc.
  225. Truth says:


    Don’t let opinions interfere with good statistics.

  226. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    How would you know that? Missouri has few blacks outside of St. Louis.


    Comment of the year; Geoffrey.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  227. @Truth

    They carjacked my jet ski.

  228. Olorin says:

    For somebody who kertootles about “integrity” you sure have hogged a lot of the discussion on this thread over the past week.

    I conclude you’re a shill paid to keep certain topics from being discussed outside of Infotainment, Inc., narratives.

    • Agree: Them Guys
  229. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Black gangs are not roving the streets hunting down whites.

    Wherever it is that you live, I want to go to there.

    (Unless, as I suspect, it’s a place in your imagination..)

  230. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s an example of what happens when people get their
    “intelligence” exclusively from mass-media propaganda.

  231. @Anonymous

    The problem with leaving urban centers for remote locations where there are no blacks is that there are also no jobs.

    There are not THAT MANY safe places left to live in the US where there is absolutely no black or Mexican crime. You’d be down to cities of 20,000.

  232. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    You prior said you were from Detroit..Thats NOT Northeast….More frauds , so typical from self hater white negro lovers and jews.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Truth
  233. @Them Guys

    “You prior said”

    Detroit is not the Midwest of rodeos and square-dancing. Neither is Chicago.

    But I don’t believe you are a white man or an American anyhow-probably an Indian troll who is all of 16 years old.

  234. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Bullshit again. And since the biggie 1968 GCA aka gun control act, when Main Fed laws took over gun issues etc…That huge antigun act law and, EVERY Fed antigun law ever since 1968 has been every time. Written by—Promoted by-Funded by-Sponsored by- Introed into US Reps and US Senate to get voted on–Voted For-Enacted by-finally Constantly raised by, again and again by-and MSM Praised and constantly mentioned by MSM—JEWS!

    EVERY Single ANTI-GUN Fed Law on the Fed U.S.Code Law Book’s, Is and has been and still yet More weekly is Demanded by….JEWS…Jew US Reps & Jew Senators….In BOTH political parties.

    And most Every Private Non Profit Tax free Org. And group of Anti Gun and anti 2nd amendt types. Are Founded By-RUN By-Funded mostly By—JEWS.

    There must be at minimum a Million Website Pages and Ref’s Devoted to Exposing and Outing, and discussing in every detail large and small, the Fact that what I here wrote is 100% Facts Based TRUTH.

    Ever since at least, 1960s in America, USA Jews has LED and Caused every anti gun fed and Most State anti gun Laws to have been created….PERIOD.!

    Don’t Even Try to debate nor argue this for its so well Proven as Fact and Truth, it only serves to Out every debater or naysayer on this issue of firearms-fed/state Laws-and the, 2nd amendt. as either an Lib Dem anti gun idiot and extreme Hater of, Our Most Precious and Basic Human, Right’s. Or..attempted arguments will show You to be a totally Uninformed foolish Clown in cahoots with prior bunch of idiots.

    PS; And also do not even try use of lefty anti gun idiots failed, fraud reasons or arguments contrary to 2nd amendt etc….Because Every single issue, statement, reason, crying for, every anti gun issue or cause etc….EVERY single one, Has already too many times to count, Been fully debated, argued, and determined….and for each single such type debate issue or reason from, or by, every anti gun fool or Org or Group…Every one has been debunked and well Proved Wrong by an aprox. Margin of about…..40-50 Pro Gun Points made Per Each single one of anti gun points or issues or reasons etc….PRO Gunnies WIN by Magin of aprox. 50-To One with the “One” attributed to the anti gun side Losers. Facts—Truths—Yes we know facts and truths are Hated by anti gun fools, and Jews, almost as much as they Hate White Males…..But, Too too Bad eh, Pro gun-Pro 2nd amendt side is correct and always has been, Period…End of argument..

    So….What the fuck do all of You anti gun types and anti 2nd amendt types…Still as Yet, Not…Get?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  235. Truth says:
    @Them Guys

    You have surmised from Geoffrey’s posts that he’s a “Negro Lover?”

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Them Guys
  236. @Them Guys

    The only case of a white man going around and playing Death Wish like Bronson was when Geotz blasted those black guys on the subway.

    I did not actually hear an outcry from the Jewish committees or senate to ban .45 autos even though his was unlicensed.

    But of course, Goetz was Jewish and the crime occurred in New York.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  237. @Truth


    About as much as you are in love with rednecks like Leatherface. I’d no sooner go in the Detroit hood than you would hang around the gas stations of rural Texas serving a BBQ.

    Rural degeneracy is awfully near the depravity of South Chicago.

    Because I am from the middle-class and suburban and have lived abroad all my life my sense of perspective is probably broader than some hick in the sticks where the driveways are gravel and have culverts.

    • Replies: @Truth
  238. Them Guys says:

    I was more thinking he’s the Jew half of that last sentence. Either way his most every reply alternates between, Bashing Whites, and constant abject Praise or tons of excuses for Jews.

    His story don’t stay straight neither. 1st he’s a born and bred and raised Detroit White guy. Then it changed as of Today, maybe sooner?…Now Jeff says he’s from the Northeastern areas…Then again he changed it to, Now from Suburban areas near Detroit….Many changes eh. How can anyone believe a guy who cannot tell where he is from? Which based on at least three distinct changed stories so far, he is unsure of where from.

    What we do know for certain is that, #1 Jeff Bashes his own (supposedly) Fellow Whiteys as much, if not more so, than typical ghetto dweller and massive hater of whitey, Coloreds or Negros do. And, #2 He Defends and supports and totally Praises Jews and most every issue related to Jews.

    Sometimes to make it look good, he complains a bit, a very small bit, about certain Jews he seems to value less compared to other Jews…probably just a smoke screen to confuse folks not as yet Jewized Up……So far though it don’t seem Jeff has been working hard like You do, to Bait White’s via Loaded questions…..Example of loaded question is: So tell us all here at unz, do you still Beat your Wife?…….Poster boy and African Darkie, Truth, Loves to do Baiting/Loaded questions eh.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  239. @Svigor

    “Wise has said that when he was about 12 years old his synagogue was attacked by white supremacists.[6]” (From his advertisement in The Pretend Encyclopedia.)

    He wasn’t a Jew, yet he attended synagogue?

    And it was attacked? What did they do, bomb it? And we have only his word for it. According to TPE “rules,” this cannot stand. A factual statement like that would have to come from a secondary, “reliable source.” (I know—ha, ha, ha!)

    Several years ago, a commenter or reviewer at Amazon exposed Wise as having lied about the neighborhood he lived (in Nashville?). Wise had asserted that the area had lots of black residents; the commenter had checked out the census tract, which turned out to be something like 97% white.

    Wise closely follows (or followed) what people say about him. He denounced the guy, but Wise was lying. As usual.

    Tim Wise has no Jewish parents, and has never claimed to have converted. Ergo, he’s not a Jew. Since he has spoken of the Jews as his “people,” that too was a lie.

    Who can keep up with this mook’s prevarications?

    • Replies: @David In TN
  240. @EliteCommInc.

    Note: Volume and integrity are two very different concepts.

  241. @Anonymous

    If you have evidence beyond the random that suggests a trend otherwise — you are welcome to make that case.

    But gangs are more interested in their territorial order and making a dime than currying around for whites, there may be exceptions, but not the rue.

    According to the FBI, whites remain more inclined to such behavior based on kin color.

  242. @Nicholas Stix


    As I previously stated, I drove by his house in South Nashville several years ago. There were NO blacks in sight.

    I think Wise moved after this, where I don’t know. The bit about “his synagogue attacked by white supremacists” I don’t believe.

  243. @Svigor

    Hayseeds and townies are second to blacks for the trouble the cops give them.

    Officer Blue Knight forces the hick out of his weatherbeaten wooden house during the divorce and introduces his spouse to the big purple headed monster while the bumpkin is staying in the local Meth N Roach motel.

  244. @Them Guys

    “Don’t stay straight”

    What a hick…the kind that Texas Chainsaw Massacre made famous…


    • Troll: Them Guys
  245. Whitey says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, but the problem is the RIGHT to bear arms is a RIGHT not a priveledge so you shouodn’t need a permit to carry. Eventually, (after enough precedents are set with people getting convicted of carrying without a permit) when you are searched or stopped (for whatever reason) those people will LOSE THEIR RIGHT TO EVEN HAVE A GUN. What kind of stupidity and government CRAP is going on here. Everyone has the right to carry, PERIOD!!!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  246. @Jeff Stryker

    I’m an ethnic white from the Northeast.

    In real life, or on TV?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  247. @Whitey

    AGREED, but you wouldn’t have had to write me if you’d carefully read what I wrote.

  248. @Jeff Stryker

    First of all, let’s get it straight: Death Wish was a movie. Death Wish 2 was a movie. Death Wish 3 was a movie. Death Wish 4 was a movie. OK, just because 1/2 the stuff you write about is from movies, I wanted to get that outta the way. Hopefully, you already know this.

    Your analogy is not quite correct, if you know anything about the 1980’s Bernie Goetz case. Mr. Goetz did not set him self up (not quite entrapment, but spoiling for it), like Charles Bronson did in the movies. Goetz was probably in for some trouble unless he had walked or run to the next train car. That seems like a pussy move, which is what the 4 black guys probably would have enjoyed just as much as beating on him. It wouldn’t really have been a pussy move, because it was 4 on 1 and Mr. Goetz was not a big guy that could just hold his own against one or two, and give them enough grief to leave him alone.

    For Mr. Goetz, it was fight or flight – he may have just been sick and tired of the humiliation of fleeing,, but he’d also know that any armed resistance would have big consequences, especially in the city of NY. That’s why, in that quick couple of seconds of decision making, he figured “if it’s gonna be lots of trouble for my life, let me just make it worth it and waste all 4 of these thugs.”

    Now there was a man who understood gun control. Hey man, nice shot!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  249. @Achmed E. Newman

    “DEATH WISH 2”

    Fishburne and his screeching whiggers were fairly convincing. And yes, Goldblum was cast because the director (Wisely) figured using a Jew was safer.

    If I saw Bronson in a park at midnight I wouldn’t try to mug him. He looked like he had a gun and intended to kill people. I did not buy that hippies and black teenagers would walk up to this big slit-eyed Russian guy alone in the dark with switchblades and say “give me your money”. Bronson looked TOO TOUGH.

    Goetz had ALREADY been mugged and had permanent damage to his knee from being thrown through a plate glass window-the attacker got off (This was in the days before harsh sentencing). The guys in the subway had screwdrivers and probably intended to stick him. There was no way he could leave, they were around him with the screwdrivers in their hands.

    And yes, Goetz did deliver the immortal line “You seem to be doing alright, here’s another!” (Which seems to be something a TV character would say).

  250. some stupid jigaboo has a page about this hate crime stating “there are no innocent white people”. he’s a marble-mouthed savage like the filthy niggers who sexually torture-murdered these two good white kids….if these savages ever get out of prison, i hope that Shanon’s father pays them a visit in the wee hours.

    Obama used tax dollars to move thousands of similar savages to clean, safe white areas of our country.

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