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Rabbi Daniel Lehmann, with a history of advocating for Israel despite its many human rights abuses, is about to be inaugurated president of the ‘most comprehensive center for the graduate study of religion in North America’ – a ‘mostly-Christian’ center with a focus on peace and justice. Lehmann has already opposed a prominent Muslim professor and aired misgivings about America’s first Muslim college, located right across the street. Lehmann is known for his fundraising ability.

On October 24th, Rabbi Daniel Lehmann will officially be inaugurated as the President of the Graduate Theology Union (GTU), reportedly “the most comprehensive center for the graduate study of religion in North America.” The Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA), reports GTU is a “mostly Christian theology center,” stating that it is “a consortium of more than 20 mostly Christian institutions.”

Located in Berkeley, California, GTU is known for its focus on world peace and social justice.

Its website emphasizes that it is “more than a school of theology” and “more than a graduate school.” It works to educate “innovative leaders for the academy, religious organizations, and the nonprofit sector” in ways that will equip them to build “a more just, peaceful, and sustainable world.”

In the 2018 announcement naming Lehmann as the new president, GTU board chair Susan Cook said: “Rabbi Daniel Lehmann is unquestionably the right person to lead the Graduate Theological Union in its interreligious engagement of the critical issues of our time.”

Lehmann supports Israel despite its human rights violations

Regarding one of those critical issues – Israel/Palestine – Rabbi Lehmann’s past history and current statements suggest that he brings a perspective opposed, at least on this issue, to GTU’s avowed goal of justice and peace.

Rabbi Lehmann has a long history of advocating for Israel in spite of its violations of international law and human rights (he calls himself a “Zionist”), and publicly opposes the international nonviolent protest movement to boycott Israel over those violations, known as “BDS” – Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions. According to its website, “BDS is a Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity.” (Lehmann’s statements are quoted extensively below.)

Numerous highly respected humanitarian organizations, including Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, Christian Aid, the Red Cross, Unicef, the National Lawyers Guild and many others have documented Israel’s long record of human rights violations and systemic discrimination.

Israel was established in 1948 through a war of ethnic cleansing, as Israeli historian Ilan Pappé and many others have documented.

It then instituted a discriminatory system in which most of the previous inhabitants, largely Muslim and Christian, were either forced out of the new state or treated as second-class citizens.

In 1967 Israel launched a war against its neighbors, resulting in the military occupation of the rest of Mandatory Palestine. Ever since, it has oppressed the inhabitants of what are now called the Occupied Palestinian Territory, the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Israeli forces invade Palestinian towns and villages, demolish homes, abduct people, raze farmland, and more on a weekly and often a daily basis.

Israel has also steadily confiscated more and more Palestinian land to create Jewish-only settlements, which are illegal under international law, and perpetrated major military invasions of Gaza that have killed and injured thousands of civilians, including numerous children.

Antipathy toward Muslim college & professor

Furthermore, some of Rabbi Lehmann’s statements seem unbecoming to a leader of interfaith programs.

While Rabbi Lehmann is the past president of a Jewish college, he appears ill-disposed towarda Muslim college across the street from GTU and verbally attacked one of its professors: a respected, decades-long member of Berkeley’s peace and social justice community – a faculty member at UC Berkeley who is also a leader in the Muslim community.

In a 2018 interview with Rabbi Lehmann after he had been named GTU head, Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) asked him: “What do you expect will be the biggest challenges in your new position?”

Lehmann replied:

“UC Berkeley, from a BDS perspective, is a challenging place. GTU is only a block off the Berkeley campus, and I suspect there will be times in which what happens there will impact me and others at GTU.”

Lehmann was referring to the fact that Berkeley’s student senate has twice passed pro-BDS resolutions. (After the first resolution, an AIPAC official said: “ We’re going to make certain that pro-Israel students take over the student government and reverse the vote. This is how AIPAC operates in our nation’s capital. This is how AIPAC must operate on our nation’s campuses.”) GTU has long had a collaborative arrangement with Berkeley.

Muslim college across the street “a challenge”

Lehmann continued:

“Another challenge is that across the street is the first and currently only Muslim undergraduate college, Zaytuna. The relationships so far between them and GTU have been good, but depending on the culture there and what kind of political engagement is taking place on the Israeli-Palestinian situation, there could be challenges.”

In the past year, Israeli forces have killed over 300 unarmed demonstrators and injured about 30,000 (6,000 of them children) in Gaza. In response, Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza killed 8 Israelis and injured around 280. Most of those listed in Israel’s official count of “injuries” were never hospitalized; many of them were described as “suffering from shock.”

By contrast, the UK Guardian reports about Gaza: “Thousands have bullet wounds through their legs. The streets of Gaza are filled with people limping or in wheelchairs. Children, journalists and medics have been killed, even when they were standing far back from the fence. The UN has said Israel’s military may have committed war crimes, deliberately targeting civilians.”

(More information on deaths among both populations is here.)

Zaytuna College says it hopes to be a “vehicle for interfaith dialogue.” (Photo from “My Experience at Zaytuna College”)
Zaytuna College says it hopes to be a “vehicle for interfaith dialogue.” (Photo from “My Experience at Zaytuna College”)

While the U.S. has long had Christian and Jewish colleges, Zaytuna College is the first accredited Muslim undergraduate college in the United States. It was founded in 2009 by individuals considered to be “among the best-known and most-respected Muslim scholars in America.”

Religious News Service reports that Zaytuna, which means ‘olive tree’ in Arabic, hopes to be a vehicle for interfaith dialogue and help promote cross-cultural understanding.

A college official says: “These kinds of institutions in the long term are absolutely necessary for bridging the divide that currently exists and the misunderstanding that many have about Islam and Muslims.”

In his interview with JNS, Lehmann went on to say: “I know they have a prominent member of their community who is a vociferous and vitriolic pro-Palestinian voice from Nablus; he is a concern for me, as I’m interested in making sure the culture is not toxic in any way or has tension as a result of that. I’m pretty out there as a Zionist…”

Dr. Hatem Bazian
Dr. Hatem Bazian

The individual he is referring to is Dr. Hatem Bazian. Dr. Bazian, a longtime member of the UC Berkeley faculty, has been active in anti-racist, pro-peace activities for decades. He is widely respected in the community, including by members of GTU’s consortium.

In fact, two GTU member institutions, Pacific School of Religion and Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary, sponsored a talk in which he was a panelist. It is unknown whether these institutions are aware that Rabbi Lehmann called Dr. Bazian “vitriolic” and potentially “toxic.” Both institutions are founding members of GTU.

As a leader in the BDS movement and founder of American Muslims for Palestine, Dr. Bazian has been attacked by Israel partisans for many years. The New Yorker reports that internal documents from a private Israeli intelligence firm called Psy-Group show that it was “targeting Bazian because of his leadership role in promoting the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement, known as B.D.S.”

In former position, Lehmann worked to strengthen Hebrew College’s connections to Israel

Lehmann moved to Berkeley from Massachusetts, where he was president of Hebrew College, a Jewish graduate school in Newton Centre, outside of Boston. While there, Lehmann “emphasized and nurtured Hebrew College’s relationship with Israel, expanding partnerships and collaborations with institutions there, and spearheading the formulation of the College’s Israel Statement,” according to Hebrew’s chairman.

In Lehman’s farewell letter to Hebrew, he wrote that the “the strong connections we have made with Israel” were among the actions that “brought new life to our sacred mission.”

In an article for Jewish Boston, Lehmann wrote: “Hebrew College from its inception has been and continues to be a Zionist institution with strong bonds to Israel and the Hebrew language. Our rabbinical school shares our commitment to foster a deep attachment to the land, people and state of Israel.”

In the article he discussed how to “foster a love for Israel among our rabbinical students.”

Lehmann stated: “We need to help [students] understand what is necessary to protect the Jewish people and the State of Israel from nefarious and hateful groups and governments, especially those that David Brooks has recently described as ‘depraved regimes.’ [Editor’s note: Brooks’ son served in the Israeli military.] We must do a better job in bringing this awareness of our precarious condition to those students who bask in the light of the universal, but we ought not to ignore the powerful messages of strength and independence that the State of Israel sends about its place in the world.”

Israel’s “messages of strength” have been excruciating for multitudes of Palestinians and others. Its forces have launched several major invasions of Gaza in which multitudes of children have been killed and injured alongside adults and the elderly, equally ruthless invasions of Lebanon, and also frequent invasions of the West Bank, where they regularly abduct Palestinians, demolish homes, and oppress villagers, as mentioned above.

Lehmann is also a cofounder of the Hevruta gap-year program in Israel. The program’s website states: “After completing the program, Hevruta alumni will be well-positioned to use their influential voices to shape the Jewish people’s most important conversations and communal decisions.”

Chair of world’s largest theological consortium

Boston Theological Institute, Sturtevant Hall, Andover Newton Theological School, 210 Herrick Road, Newton Centre, Massachusetts, USA.
Boston Theological Institute, Sturtevant Hall, Andover Newton Theological School, 210 Herrick Road, Newton Centre, Massachusetts, USA.

While he was living in Massachusetts, Rabbi Lehmann was board chair of the Boston Theological Institute, a historically Christian institution that has been called “the largest theological consortium in the world.”

The Complete Pilgrim, a blog that focuses on religious sites around the world, reports: “The Boston Theological Institute is possibly the largest religious education institution of its kind in the world. Not itself a school, it is a consortium of ten of the most prestigious and historic theology colleges and departments in the United States. Some of the oldest divinity schools in the nation are part of the BTI, including the oldest, Andover Newton Theological School.”

JNS reports that Lehmann had “successfully led Hebrew College to become the first non-Christian institution to join that theological consortium.”

In a 2016 article, New Boston Post described how this came about: “Five years ago, Lehmann approached the Boston Theological Institute, a consortium of nine Christian theology schools. He thought Hebrew College should join other institutions that train clergy. The organization had been entirely Christian, but they modified their mission statement to welcome their new participant. Lehmann was recently elected board chair of the organization.”

In an article for Jewish Boston, Lehmann wrote: “Our request for membership was not without some controversy given the explicit Christian orientation of the consortium for more than 40 years, but after some intense conversations within the BTI board, the invitation to join was extended and in January of 2011 we officially became a member of the consortium of nine other schools.”

Lehmann states: “Subsequent to our joining the BTI, the mission statement of the BTI had to be revised to reflect the new interreligious nature of the consortium. I, together with a number of other board members, drafted a new mission statement that focused on our goals as theological institutions preparing religious leaders and scholars for a pluralistic world.”

In May 2018, the institution changed its name to “Boston Theological Interreligious Consortium.”

Why is all this relevant? To understand, we need to look at BTI’s history on Israel-Palestine.

A few years before Lehmann approached BTI about joining, the institute had co-sponsored a pro-Palestinian conference by a Christian organization, Sabeel, that featured a keynote address by South African anti-apartheid leader, Bishop Desmond Tutu, as well as talks by Noam Chomsky, UN Rapporteur John Dugard, and others. We can’t find any evidence that BTI has supported such events in recent years.

Lehmann will bring ‘different set of perspectives’

While Berkeley’s GTU does not seem to have sponsored similar conferences, in past years it has promoted events that have included speakers such as Sabeel member Rosemary Radford Ruether, a longtime supporter of Justice and peace for Palestinians; Stanford Professor Khalil Barhoum, a Palestinian refugee and eloquent speaker on the issue; Judith Butler, a Jewish journalist who opposes Zionism; Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, an advocate for Palestinian human rights; and an event against Islamophobia at Zaytuna College.

Now that Rabbi Lehmann is in place, it is uncertain whether GTU will again announce these or similar speakers. While the past events it has endorsed have often featured voices from both sides of the issue, Rabbi Lehmann’s appointment means that one side will now be at the helm – and a side that is a particularly hardcore. An event featuring a prominent Palestinian theologian that took place after Rabbi Lehmann began acting as president does not seem to have been announced on the GTU Website, even though it was co-sponsored by members of the GTU consortium, and the event took place on the GTU campus.

Last year, Jewish News of Northern California interviewed Rabbi Lehman about his appointment to lead GTU.

In the interview Lehmann said: “I’m coming as an outsider to the dominant Christian culture that has nurtured GTU, and that’s inevitably going to bring a different set of perspectives.”

Rabbi Lehmann told JNS: “I’m pretty out there as a Zionist and politically centrist, while most GTU leadership has been on the progressive Christian side.”

A diversity of perspectives could be a good thing. But only time will tell what Lehmann’s perspectives on the Middle East will mean for GTU’s actions regarding Israel-Palestine – and for its neighbors who are Palestinian and Muslim.

GTU statements:

GTU officials were asked to comment for this article, but a GTU spokesperson (recently hired by Rabbi Lehmann) said they were unable to be reached.

GTU’s original statement announcing Rabbi Lehmann as the new president noted:

“During his years as an academic and religious leader in Boston, Rabbi Lehmann raised tens of millions of dollars for operational and capital needs and worked closely with trustees to expand a philanthropic base of support. One of his signature accomplishments as president of Hebrew College was the establishment of the Miller Center for Interreligious Learning & Leadership, which was made possible by a generous seven-figure gift from a trustee.”

Alison Weir is executive director of If Americans Knew, president of the Council for the National Interest, and author of the best selling book Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel.

(Republished from If Americans Knew by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anon[593] • Disclaimer says:

    Rabbi Daniel Lehmann, , the moral shit head is building tolerance by emulating the tolerance of the
    Shylock Weazel center .

  2. GTU is finished as a moral compass. This is even more proof that the Dominican and Jesuit affiliates have become theologically weak and are ignoring their own historical documents. Instead of supporting the Missionaries of Charity in Gaza, they have turned their back on their sisters and on the Palestinians as a whole. These Catholic orders of priests have aligned themselves with the Rabbinic advocates of the Culture of Death. There is no need to discuss in detail the bankrupt ideology of “Americanism” massively being pushed throughout the world by the Jesuits. Nostra Aetate is a complete disaster.

    • Replies: @Steve Naidamast
  3. It would appear that no one who does the hiring or promotions at GTU is familiar with the Talmud.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Snanonymous
  4. George says:

    president of the ‘most comprehensive center for the graduate study of religion in North America’

    Never heard of GTU. Their Wikipedia page lists few notable alumni, none of which I have heard of. The school consortium is mostly notable for having a fab California location, which is nice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_Theological_Union#Notable_alumni

  5. The ol’ thirty pieces of silver trick!

    • Replies: @anon
  6. eah says:

    Pro-Israel Rabbi

    Is there a rabbi who isn’t pro-Israel?

    • Replies: @buzzwar
    , @cooltemp
  7. So a guy from one primitive cult has finagled his way into the Big Seat at a mob of guys from a different primitive cult… on the basis that the first guy was good at getting dollars in the door.

    Yep – that’s about par for the course for anything concerning the Senior Grifters of any group whose entire schtick relies on a large pool of cognitively-infantile people who want preposterous Sky-Monster stories explained to them by charlatans.

    Watching fake-religious bullshitters undertake such obviously, manifestly mundane (and profane) power-trip shenanigans is entertaining: for centuries that was how cathedrals and palaces got built, now it’s reduced to squabbling over the scraps as their whole grift gets laughed out of existence.

    No doubt some group with whom this charlatan is connected, has its eyes on the school’s endowment, or its property portfolio, or some other such.

    It’s phenomenally unlikely that he infiltrated the organisation-nobody-gives-a-shit-about simply in order to try to change some Berkeley-centric, nobody’s-listening narrative on his co-cultists’ behaviour in Palestine. It would be a waste of resources, given that YKW have a direct line to 70% of the US Congress, and are balls-deep in the upper echelons of the US bureaucracy.

    It would be like the mayor’s wife getting her nephew.s friend elected dog-catcher in order to try and control a dog 4 streets away… instead, she just has to offer a conditional blowjob to the mayor – he can send the existing dog-catcher.

    • Replies: @J. Alfred Powell
  8. Lots of useless info. I don’t care what this guy thinks of Israel. What I do care, on the other hand, is his opinion towards Muslims & Islamic inundation of the Western, white European peoples, including the US. That’s what matters ultimately, not one Kebab fighting another Kebab somewhere in the mid-East.

    And- “theology” is Christian & only Christian discipline. Islamic & Jewish “theologies” did exist, many hundreds years ago (Al-Ghazali, Maimonides) as a result of brief encounter of philosophy & religion. Only within European civilization has this form existed almost for 2000 years; in Judaism & Islam you don’t have a single theologian now, just legal scholars who pronounce, in legalese, on their specific taboos (food, clothing & similar stuff).

    Non-Christians should not apply to anything that goes under the name “theological”.

    • Troll: AnonStarter
  9. ThereisaGod says: • Website

    This is the logical end to the slow death that Christianity has inflicted on itself over the past decades; absorption into Judaism.

    The leaders of the supposed representatives of Christ on earth will eventually openly admit that the Pharisees, and not Jesus, were right all along.

    John Paul II took the biggest step* in this direction by participating in “joint worship” with our “elder brothers”, Orthodox Jewish Rabbis …

    … you know …

    … the ones whose Holy Book teaches that Christ is in hell, drowning in boiling excrement.

    Joint Worship??!!!

    Unbelievably shocking. Those who say that the Pole, JPII, had a Jewish mother have got to be right, haven’t they? How else on earth can one explain away such a gross betrayal by the person at the very top of organised Christianity?

    *(not including the one-sided 1962 declaration of peace that was ‘Nostra Aetate’)

  10. By the way- this guy looks like a stereotypical antisemitic cartoon. So does his Arab “cousin”.

  11. Paul says:

    “Lehmann is known for his fundraising ability.”

    Ignore Israel’s land grabs (of Palestinian Christian and Muslim land), and follow the money.

  12. Gh says:

    “GTU is known for its focus on world peace and social justice”. It can’t be, and nvever was. Rabbi Daniel Lehmann is a self-described “Israeli Fascist”.

  13. Miggle says:

    Thanks, Alison. But I don’t think you explained how it is that a bunch of idiotic Christian drips so clueless as to support the demolition of the homes of Christians by Jews, who appoint as their president a Jew who stands for exactly that, can offer post-graduate degrees in anything, let alone theology! This is the Academy? Huh???

    Have they given this rabbi their Rachel Corrie medal? Or have they never heard of or cared about her?

  14. Naturally a Christian theology center needs a jewish chief officer. Nothing to see here. Move along now.

    • Replies: @anon
  15. “Its website emphasizes that it is ‘more than a school of theology’ and ‘more than a graduate school.’ It works to educate ‘innovative leaders for the academy, religious organizations, and the nonprofit sector’ in ways that will equip them to build ‘a more just, peaceful, and sustainable world.’”

    In other words, GTU has nothing to do with “theology” and advanced theological education and training. It’s just one more tool of SJW agitprop.

  16. mcohen says:

    Great news.The rabbi is well respected in the jewish community and dedicated to interfaith dialogue at all levels.I wish him well.

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
  17. @Dennis Gannon

    But they must be familiar with the Federal Reserve Bank…

  18. A Muslim college (what do they teach there?) in America? Why, have the Saudis given a permission to open a GTU branch in Makkah?

  19. This appointment illustrates how Zionist Sabbatean Frankist Satanists have taken over what used to be Western Christianity. Tzvi, the founder of Sabbatean Frankist Satanism, taught his followers to systematically violate the Ten Commandments: “Though shalt kill, thou shalt commit adultery,” etc. Sabbateans believe that by committing abominations they can force God to bring on the Messiah, a Jewish military conqueror who will rule the world from a blood sacrifice temple built on the site of today’s al-Aqsa mosque. Their biggest abomination of all is the genocide of the Holy Land.

    Today’s Catholic Church is a cesspool of Sabbatean Frankist Satanism, featuring systematic child abuse, money laundering, and other criminal activities, and the Protestants aren’t far behind. The GTU is now officially a branch of the Church of Satan.

    • Replies: @anon
  20. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    > Satanists have taken over what used to be Western Christianity.

    Or rather, the Jewish-authored Holy Hook has taken over what used to be Western Christianity, since its first mass printing in 1455. Europe adapted Jewish-inspired Christianity to its culture best when European “Sacred Tradition” was elevated over the degenerate teachings inside the Jewish-authored Bible, and when reading, owning, or distributing that Jew-inspired book was as brutally banned as in any Communist regime. Bible-monger William Tyndale was burned at the stake, and Christendom will return to its Medieval glory when the Sola-Juda, Bible-thumping Bitter-Clingers are cleansed from the land with fire. Deus Vult!

  21. Wally says:
    @Winter Watch

    On the Jewish Question, real & verifiable documents demolish the ridiculous ‘extermination’ claims:

    “Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers’ opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party.”

    Document’s origins: Schlegelberger’s undated minute on Lammer’s reference to Hitler’s ruling is in German Federal Archives (BA) file R.22/52. It was sent to Staatssekretär Freisler and two other officials (bottom left). This document has been published in facsimile in David Irving’s books Hitler’s War, Goebbels. Mastermind of the Third Reich, and Nuremberg, the Last Battle. It was definitely dated March or April 1942. Lammers was in Berlin on April 26, 1942. See Scheel’s report on a talk between Lammers and Meissner after the final session that day (T175/139/7479 et seq.)

    In support of the Schlegelberger Document see the Luther Memorandum:
    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/
    Hitler, the ‘Final Solution,’ and the Luther Memorandum, A Response to Evans and Longerich
    excerpt:

    “On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.”
    “The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much.”

    and: Hitler, July 24, 1942:

    “The Jews are interested in Europe for economic reasons, but Europe must reject them, if only out of self-interest, because the Jews are racially tougher. After this war is over, I will rigorously hold to the view … that the Jews will have to leave and emigrate to Madagascar or some other Jewish national state.”
    – source: H. Picker, Hitlers Tischgesprche im Fuehrerhaupt quartier (Stuttgart: 1976), p. 456. Also mentioned in Gerald Reitlinger, The Final Solution: (Jacob Aronson, Inc., 1987), p. 78.

  22. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Christianity has always had a pro-Israel Jewish chief officer, one who was “praised by every Jew” when on his Rabbinical teaching circuit in “their Synagogues.” (Luke 4:15)

    • Replies: @Bill
    , @Hibernian
  23. Agent76 says:

    Sep 10, 2019 Judaism, Zionism and Neturei Karta

    Interview with Rabbi Moshe Dov Beck, June 20, 2016, in Monsey NY.

  24. Europe has become the dumping ground for Zionists who want to clear the region for Greater Israel.

    http://newobserveronline.com/jews-ethnically-cleansing-gaza-sending-palestinians-to-europe-israeli-govt-admits/

  25. Bill says:
    @anon

    Twaddle. A modern, religious Ashkenazi Jew shares neither the religion nor the ethnicity of Second Temple Jews.

    • Replies: @anon
  26. Paul says:

    “Lehmann is known for his fundraising ability.”

    Follow the shekels!

  27. Art says:

    Will Pro-Israel Rabbi Heading Top Theology Center Change Its Direction?

    Jesus said that his disciples would abandon him.

    How much silver did it take this time?

    Do No Harm (a Western idea) — Art

  28. Interesting article. The Christian world is being reshaped and distorted, one interfaith dialogue at a time. The election of pro-Zionist Rabbi into the top position at GTU underscores this trend.

    Unfortunately, Judaism and Christianity remain just as incompatible as they’ve always been. Jews understand this. On the other hand, today’s stewards of Christianity are being hoodwinked.

    As the Palestinian experience demonstrates, militant Zionism easily victimizes Christians while Jewish tribalism openly contravenes Christian ethics. So what else is new?

    Whereas countless Christian leaders regularly bow and pay homage to Jewry at the Wailing Wall (and other symbols of Jewish victimhood) you will seldom see similar gestures of homage and respect coming from leading Jews towards our history and our religious institutions. Christianity has become hopelessly subordinate to its ‘elder brother’. The inflated boogeyman of ‘anti-Semitism’ also has Christianity back-peddling.

    In the few time that I’ve attended a church service (at my wife’s request) over the past dozen years, I was not impressed. Christianity is too wrapped up in the life of one magical, mythical Jew.

    Sadly, ‘loving one’s enemy’ is a bit impractical in the real world. Christianity has always been too idealistic for its own good, especially with Jews around.

    This is far more sensible: ‘Try to forgive and make peace with your enemies’.

    Sounds about right, doncha think?

    Peace and compromise must be bilateral. Otherwise, somebody gets screwed.

    Thus Judaism as a political tool is far more dynamic, stealthy, and all-encompassing than Christianity. Many Christians privately understand this.

    But when whites try to formulate an orthodoxy that delivers for Christians what Judaism delivers for Jews, it’s it’s lambasted as neo-Naziism. Game over.

    The inherent weakness of Christianity explains why countless Americans treat this faith as a lovely and nostalgic afterthought. Little more.

    Our holidays now revolve around shopping, eating, or paying to see a Jewish-produced film after one of our holiday feasts. Meanwhile, Jews are running the show.

    Is it any wonder that Jews are running circles around us?

    • Agree: Miggle
    • Replies: @Wally
  29. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill

    Synagogue is still a Synagogue, Rabbi is still a Rabbi. Christianity’s attempt at hair-splitting the Magically-Delicious Rabbi Jesus from the stew of Bad Rabbi Poison is more fraught with danger than a licensed Japanese chef dissecting Fugu (Pufferfish.) Europe’s homegrown “Sacred Tradition” did a halfway decent job of isolating the Jewish Toxicity during Medieval times—when the Jew-inspired Holy Hook was strictly banned—but now that it is in print and widely distributed, the poison is everywhere, and fatally so.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @Miggle
    , @Bill
  30. Wally says: • Website
    @mark green

    Mark, you never fail to deliver. Thanks.

    said:
    “Sadly, ‘loving one’s enemy’ is a bit impractical in the real world. Christianity has always been too idealistic for its own good, especially with Jews around.”

    – There are those who believe that Jews wrote the Bible for that purpose.

    “But when whites try to formulate an orthodoxy that delivers for Christians what Judaism delivers for Jews, it’s it’s lambasted as neo-Naziism. Game over. ”

    A prime reason that the impossible “holocaust” narrative was manufactured.

  31. @Jon Baptist

    The question has to be asked is why a predominately Christian organization would implement a Rabbi directly opposed to a number of the organization’s stated values.

    This would make sense if one reads Lauren Guyenot’s highly readable treatise on the history of Jewish and Christian religious development since antiquity, “From Yahweh to Zion”. In this work we find that much of modern day Christianity has been severely compromised by ancient Judaic concepts, many such concepts directly opposed to the original message of Jesus.

    For example, the Catholic Church’s Council of Trent in the mid 16th century implemented the same ecclesiastical authority for the Old Testament as had been up until that time only afforded to the Gospels in the New Testament. Thus the Catholic Church was holding this ancient Hebraic scripture in the same regard as the Gospel, which is very odd considering that the Old Testament may be a writing of parables but such parables are often more than not plagued with oppression of women, trauma, violence by Human against Human as well as god against Human, and horrific suffering. Nothing one would want to admire; especially in an omnipotent being…

    Guyenot also points out in this work that the Jesuit Order could well have been originally founded by the Marranos Jews in Europe who were also known as Crypto-Jews (Jews who had converted to Christianity while hiding their true Judaic beliefs). Since the organization in question in this piece has in part been formed by the Jesuit Order, the selection of such a director would make sense as it merely continues what Judaic philosophy has already done against much of maturing Christianity…

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  32. @ThereisaGod

    Re: John Paul worshipping with “our elder brothers.”

    In this JP2 was a liar or a well-meaning fool. I respect people’s differences of beliefs, but for pity’s sake, let’s be honest enough to recognize that Talmudic Judaism and Christianity might share a common ancestry but stop pretending that Christiamity sprang from Talmudic Judaism. If anything, Christianity is the older brother and Talmudic Judaism born in reaction to it.

  33. Z-man says:

    This theological center-What a Joke!

  34. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    The best way to solve humanity’s Semitic “religion” problem, which is obviously a primary problem, is to be rid of every sect of it via extreme prejudice.

    In favor of any religion that does not believe in a revolutionary political future that benefits its adherents, at the cost of everyone else, as part of its core structure ( in contrast with the Messianism and supremacist apocalyptic eschatologies that characterize Judaism and Islam).

    In other words, in favor of any religion that instead acts like an actual religion and as such is only concerned with the human soul, and not with a supremacist utopia.

    Judaism and Islam are hardly differentiated. Any pretense that they are is theater. They are intertwined vines of the same root.

    By virtue of his religion, this Rabbi believes in Jewish supremacy and slaving after a final period of worldwide genocide. So called Jewish interfaith efforts are an oxymoron and are merely a survival, stalling, and subversion tactic until the Jewish apocalypse can be forced. There is no more inappropriate leader of anything non-Jewish, let alone of another faith, than a Rabbi. These people are invariably, inherently, and fatally subversive.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Druid
  35. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Speaking of betrayal for payola, have you accepted the Magical Rabbi’s “hundredfold” bribe to forsake your own blood and soil? And if you still love your own kin folk, the Rabbi specifically states that you’re getting cut out of the deal you thought you had.

  36. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    > supremacist apocalyptic eschatologies

    Like this? “I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.” (Rev. 2:16) Whew!

    > Judaism, [Christianity,] and Islam are hardly differentiated.

    FIFY…

    “…the Quran derives from a Syriac Christian lectionary.

    The Christian Origins of Islam | Peter J. Leithart | First Things
    http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/12/the-christian-origins-of-islam

  37. renfro says:

    So the Graduate Theology Union sold out for money.

    Well it will trickle into the gutter soon enough.

  38. mcohen says:
    @anon

    Great article on mondoweiss about this rabbi and his tenure at the gru

  39. Miggle says:
    @anon

    Synagogue is still a Synagogue, Rabbi is still a Rabbi. Christianity’s attempt at hair-splitting the Magically-Delicious Rabbi Jesus from the stew of Bad Rabbi Poison …

    Your basic premises are wrong. In particular, rabbi is not still a rabbi. You are saying a teacher in pre-rabbinical Judaism is the same as a gang leader in rabbinical Judaism. A large part of the recorded words of Jesus are denunciations of the fake rabbis, the “scribes and Pharisees”, who were inventing a different religion based not on the OT but on their invented “tradition” that mutilated the meaning of every sentence of it, while wearing gorgeous robes and appropriated the houses of those they had put into debt, the “widows”. Totally different, the “tradition” that Jesus condemns, the hair-splitting, the quibbling over every “gnat” of their invention.

    • Replies: @anon
  40. JoannF says:

    It’s good and well to complain about Jewish activists, but they are only furthering the ends of their own community – sort of understandable, which is why everybody understands them.|
    The problem are Christian Conservative and Muslim pro-Judaist Quislings.
    They really need to be mercilessly, profoundly and sustainably replaced FOREVER (which might include their abrahamice religious flavors), to get rid of the entire auto-immunitarian, mankind-plaguing, neurotic stain.

  41. Rabbi Lehman may be bright intellgen BUT morally humanly UNQUALFY…

  42. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miggle

    > rabbi is not still a rabbi

    But, but, but, Not All Jews Are Like that! (NAJALT!) That’s all you got?

    You’re as confused as an anti-Communist who insists on following Trotsky because Trotsky disagreed with the main group of Communists in Moscow and got assassinated. And missing the main lesson: Why are you outsourcing your religion to foreigners in a foreign land?

    • Replies: @Miggle
  43. Druid says:
    @Anon

    You know little about islam, by your stupid comment

  44. Alden says:

    Union Theological Seminary had a confession ceremony yesterday the 17th. They bought some plants laid them on the floor and confessed their sins against the environment to the plants.

    That’s pre Christian Green Man nature worship paganism. Harmless I suppose. Not exactly Christian but what is nowadays?

  45. bjondo says:

    First step: return to the Marcionite Bible.

    Toss all others.

    • Replies: @anon
  46. Miggle says:
    @anon

    A highly evasive and devious response. Why?

    And missing the main lesson: Why are you outsourcing your religion to foreigners in a foreign land?

    I’m not defending unreformed Christianity, which rapidly degenerated into oppressive imperialism, Roman and Byzantine both, persecuting Nestorian and then Monophysite Christianity, making Islam the conqueror. Corrupt to the core, or corrupt to its highest point, the Antichrist. Nor am I defending American Puritanism and its mad superstitions, made worse by Scofield. But Christianity obviously started in one place and spread, so obviously, for most, arose in a different time in a different land.

    So, incidentally, did Judaism, despite the denials. Post-Alexander it spread rapidly all over the Hellenistic and Roman world, from the Indus Valley to Carthage and Spain, and correspondingly north and south. We even have these words of Jesus (Matt. 23:15 KJV):

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    Your nonsense about outsourcing sounds very desperate. Again, why?

    • Replies: @anon
  47. Anon55uu says:

    Seriously, according to Wikipedia this institution has 8 staff and 245 students. It grants research degrees whilst the consortium seminaries grant mainly ministry degrees. It’s not a big deal. The southern baptist seminaries have thousands of students.

  48. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘And- “theology” is Christian & only Christian discipline. Islamic & Jewish “theologies” did exist, many hundreds years ago (Al-Ghazali, Maimonides) as a result of brief encounter of philosophy & religion. Only within European civilization has this form existed almost for 2000 years; in Judaism & Islam you don’t have a single theologian now, just legal scholars who pronounce, in legalese, on their specific taboos (food, clothing & similar stuff).’

    It’s hardly my field, but I don’t think this is true.

    In Judaism you have hasidism, which is pretty recent, and whatever else may be said about it, is hardly just dry legalisms.

    In Islam, there were the Wahabis — again, perhaps not very attractive, but certainly passionate enough, and again, recent. Over on the Shi’a side, you had the very recent Ayatollah Khomeini, who I understand was quite significant theologically.

    Of course, one might object to Wahabi theology being propagated at Berkeley — but the problem wouldn’t be what you claimed.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  49. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miggle

    > A highly evasive and devious response.

    You’re projecting, but thanks for the warning! Incoming…

    > But Christianity obviously started in one place and spread, so obviously, for most, arose in a different time in a different land.

    Ya think? LOL! Are you the fellow who does that deadpan Mr. Obvious comedy routine?

    > Woe unto you,

    Who cares? Jews have disagreements all the time. Why should I have to pick a side in a Jewish imbroglio? Why are you taking Jewish spats seriously?

    Must I add that, in the whole New Testament, there appears but a solitary figure worthy of honour? Pilate, the Roman viceroy. To regard a Jewish imbroglio seriously — that was quite beyond him. One Jew more or less — what did it matter? (Friedrich Nietzsche)

    > Your nonsense about outsourcing

    So Jews and Israel are not foreign but local and familiar as family to you, Schlomo? Thanks for the perspective.

    • Troll: Miggle
  50. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @bjondo

    Three questions about your Deus Burnt! Bible-tossing proposal:

    1. At what temperature do they ignite, Fahrenheit 451?

    2. How do you figure you’re going to persuade Bitter-Clingers to give up their heretical non-Marcionite Bibles? Same methods as the gun-grabbers? Got some ideas from Obama?

    3. If Grandma tries to retain the family KJV Bible on the coffee table, would you condemn her an Irredeemable Deplorable?

  51. @Colin Wright

    This is not theology. Theology is a serious philosophy within limits of religious dogmas. Hasidim & Wahabis are not anything like a theology; they are religious movements.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  52. Anonymous[893] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThereisaGod

    These Christian leaders by their actions and words are self-evident apostates. Since most of them couldn’t get a job at Lowes if they lost these jobs they scrupulously maintain the trappings of Christianity to gut it from within.

    What’s so ironic is that Christianity’s worst enemies are not merely apostates whose ontological imperative is a Gnostic rage to remake the world in their own sick image, but they’re now running the show. Jews see these losers for who they are and easy pushovers for subsuming Christianity under the non-biblical Seven Noahide Laws made up by Talmudic Judaics well after Christianity was ascendant. You probably already know these Talmudic “laws” are actually a smokescreen concealing mandatory beheading of nonbelievers (meaning only Christians) and were elevated by Bush I and Congress in Public Law 102-14 to mystical, quasi-religious status supplanting all of this country’s documentary history, proving this was a country founded on Christian principles, with the claim our highest foundational principles come from Christ-hating Talmudic Judaics whose Talmud wasn’t even codified for 200 years after Christ’s crucifixion. Have a look at Bush I signing the law into effect in the Oval Office surrounded by these grinning Talmudic monsters and tell me who you think is really in charge.

    The Talmud may also be the world’s greatest written specimen of evil. In it virtually every moral precept in Christianity is turned on its head. Every shalt not becomes thou shalt not unless it’s done against non-Jews, in which case it’s okay to rape and slaughter Christians, lie to them, steal from them, and walk by them if they’re dying by the side of the road lest they recover and become an impediment to Jewish ends. These are the people Pope Francis is so afraid of that he hides away the crucifix he wears on his chest whenever he’s in the presence of Talmudic rabbis. Last I heard, although I no longer bother to keep up on it, the Catholic Church was going to bowdlerize or outright repudiate the Gospel of John and Book of Apocalypse because the Jews are offended by the truth they contain.

    • Replies: @anon
  53. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    > And- “theology” is Christian

    Looks like you forgot that everybody else gets to seriously study their own versions of make-believe nonsense too.

    Source: Wikipedia–Theology In Various Religions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology#In_various_religions

  54. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You Liars for Jesus live in a fantasy land about the Founders.

    > all of this country’s documentary history, proving this was a country founded on Christian principles

    Except in reality, this country’s documented history says different. “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” (Treaty of Tripoli, officially ratified by the Senate, signed by John Adams, 10 June, 1797) Fact is, this nation has chiseled in stone “eternal hostility” to the “schemes” of Christian sects’ “clergy” attempting to control the new nation with “tyranny over the mind of man.”

    Full context of the quote chiseled into the Jefferson Memorial, below:

    [MORE]

    “…had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro’ the US. and as every sect believes it’s own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for it’s own: but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. the returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me…”

    Thomas Jefferson, letter to Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800
    http://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-32-02-0102

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  55. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘This is not theology. Theology is a serious philosophy within limits of religious dogmas. Hasidim & Wahabis are not anything like a theology; they are religious movements.’

    Well then: how about Ayatollah Khomeini?

    Of course, the truth of the matter is that neither you nor I know enough to discuss recent Islamic theology intelligently — but if I can’t argue from ignorance that it must exist, neither can you argue from ignorance that it does not.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  56. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThereisaGod

    > absorption into Judaism

    Christianity never dispersed from Judaism. Christians who think themselves separate always trot out the “New Covenant” line, but conveniently forget for whom the New Covenant applies, from Jeremiah 31: “I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.” Both Rabbi Jesus and the Jew Paul—and whoever wrote “Hebrews”—confirm that Christianity is utterly Judaic through and through.

  57. buzzwar says:
    @eah

    yes rabbis from the neturi karta.

  58. @Colin Wright

    I’ve read his green book. As I’ve said, this is about law, shariah. Nothing about metaphysics or anything similar. For instance, one of more bizarre precepts is: what to if you bugger your uncle? Which ritual ablutions to perform?

    The whole book is like that, nothing on anything “philosophical”.

  59. @Steve Naidamast

    Jesuit Order could well have been originally founded by the Marranos Jews in Europe who were also known as Crypto-Jews

    I agree that the Catholic Church has been infiltrated. Weir’s article is proof of that. Ignoring usury as a mortal sin is also another major flashing sign and has been a problem for a very long time. However, the Jesuits were some of the most fiercest critics of Jewish motivations in the past. This is noted in La Civilta Cattolica, Series XIV, Vol. VII, 1890. This was a Jesuit work and an official publication of the Vatican. That being said, the Jesuits and Dominicans of today have been hijacked completely.

    Al Liguori provided a link to an English translation. http://web.archive.org/web/20150207114825/http://www.romancatholicism.org/pdf/civilta-jews.pdf

  60. @Bardon Kaldian

    LOL. So what is the “ablution”? Report to the religious police so that both you and your uncle get hanged?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  61. Chu says:

    Stupid Goyim seem to love their interfaith dialogue – It makes them feel so warm inside the bubble.

    Wonder what Lehmann thinks of this quote from the Israeli Head Rabbi in 2010?

    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.” – Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, October 2010

  62. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chu

    > Goyim were born only to serve us.

    The Jewish author St. Paul stated pretty much the same concept, “For if the Goyim have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” Right there in a single sentence is America’s foreign policy in a nutshell. Two thousand years, and nothing much has changed how Jews of all shapes and sizes view Goyim.

  63. @Chu

    Stupid Goyim seem to love their interfaith dialogue

    So true! We also think there is something “faith based” about Israel. Hah!

  64. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I don’t have to frenetically look up the Treaty of Tripoli as you did, which in any case merely confirmed, under the duress of piracy, that the US was not created as a theocracy and so no threat to Muslims. And, you apparently think you’re the first to discover Jefferson was not a Christian. Did you forget or not even know he spoke favorably of the French Revolution and Illuminati? I Feel sorry for you, recognizing your hateful rants are the beginnings of madness and yet you still fancy yourself a clever little fellow. You give yourself away as probably a Talmudic Judaic, too, inasmuch as no other people I’ve ever heard of have such a psychotic hatred of their fellow man.

    • Replies: @anon
  65. @Commentator Mike

    I’m serious, I’ve read it long time ago. Some fasting & ritual cleansing of your dick, plus other body parts. Khomeini writes about 3-5 other weird sex topics including homosexuality & incest. Others are answers to more ordinary questions, but most of them have almost nothing to with dilemmas of modern life.

    This booklet is way weirder than other famous crazy slim books, authored by Gaddafi & Mao.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  66. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “Hate” Speech! LOL! Good grief, you sound as desperate as any other SJW, assigning the motivation of “hatred” to a fellow speaking historical facts and quoting Jefferson. Did you join Black Lives Matter in tearing down the statue of Jefferson? And, just like SJWs always lie, you do that too, multiple times. Example: “probably a Talmudic Judaic.” You’re probably psychologically projecting. SAD!

    p.s. You’re one of those clerical tyrants Jefferson identified, amirite? 🙂

  67. @Bardon Kaldian

    Bardon,

    I believe you. I was just wondering why they hang homos in Iran if they could just force them to carry out the ablution. I don’t know if it is true but soon after the revolution I was told that in Iran if a pedophile raped a little boy they hanged them both, even the little victim kid, as supposedly he’d only grow up to become a pedophile rapist himself when he grew up. I just find it surprising that the Ayatollah seemed to be more tolerant in his book than in his rule.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  68. @Commentator Mike

    Strangely enough, fanatic as he was- this is true. I don’t know enough about Iran’s internal policy, but this country is riven by inner struggle between secularists & religious nuts; some extreme behavior (for instance, their gay policy) may stem not from dogmas, but from the conflicted society’s paranoid behavior.

    The best outcome would be a secularization of Iran, but I am not very optimistic re that issue. It’s not just US & Israeli meddling, but deeply rooted fanaticism & enstupidation of that old historical nation with disastrous results. For instance, take prostitution:
    https://thearabweekly.com/other-tehran-behind-veil-chastity

    In Tehran, however, there is not even the pretence of legality or the custom of the temporary marriage. Instead, men in cars pick up sex workers on the main streets of the capital. Perhaps more shocking, some of the sex workers ply their trade with the knowledge or even the encouragement of their hus­bands because the family sees no other way to escape poverty.

    https://nypost.com/2014/08/30/inside-modern-iran-where-porn-and-prostitution-are-rampant/

    Inside modern Iran, where porn and prostitution are rampant

  69. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘I’ve read his green book. As I’ve said, this is about law, shariah. Nothing about metaphysics or anything similar. For instance, one of more bizarre precepts is: what to if you bugger your uncle? Which ritual ablutions to perform?

    ‘The whole book is like that, nothing on anything “philosophical”.’

    I’ve also heard that Khomeini was considered a leading authority on Aristotle.

    That’s hardly definitive, but it sounds pretty serious to me. Maybe his ‘Green Book’ wasn’t intended to convey his metaphysics. After all, he had a revolution to foment.

  70. @Chu

    ‘…“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.” – Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, October 2010’

    This would be what AaronB and Mcohen are referring to when they talk about all that Judaism has to offer us.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  71. Bill says:
    @anon

    That is a seriously dumb comment. Second Temple Judaism had priests and a temple.

    • Replies: @anon
  72. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well, that certainly isn’t a standard Jewish belief.

    However, there is a Jewish belief that while non-Jews have a share in heaven, those who did not convert will be willing servants of purified Jews in final stage of the world to come, in order to get closer to God. The conception is a bit more subtle, which I will try and explain below. Also, this is just one non-binding Jewish teaching – obviously, just an allegory expressing the idea that Judaism entails a special rewards in heaven for its members, without which belief, there would be no point being Jewish.

    While this is obviously incompatible with modern liberal sensitivities, it is considerably more liberal and humane than Christianity and Islam, which believe non-members of their faith go to Hell yo suffer eternal torment, and that even in this world they have no legitimacy – neither belief shared by Judaism.

    From a modern liberal perspective, there are certainly things to object to in Judaism – but it is best to stick to the facts, and not pervert the truth.

    The idea is that in this final stage of the world to come, the Jews who have made it to heaven will be utterly perfected and without moral blemish or material desires. They will be without ego. Righteous gentiles who also made it to heaven, will wish to serve these selfless perfected beings as the best way to get closer to God, and these in turn will compassionately provide them with this avenue. It is not a servitude for personal benefit or material ends by either party.

    Again, clearly this is extremely offensive to modern egalitarian sensibilities – but it is obviously relatively mild and humane compared to other systems, and while hierarchical, compassionate.

    Criticize all you wish – but have an accurate picture of what you are criticizing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  73. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill

    Evidently, you’ve never read the New Testament. “Now Christ has come as the high priest…he holds his priesthood permanently since he lives forever…And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament.” Those are just a sampling from Hebrews and Revelation of what you seem to have missed. Go find the rest, and then get back with me on the seriously dumb comment you made, ok?

    Christianity is nothing but repackaged Judaism.

    • Replies: @Bill
  74. @AaronB

    ‘…Criticize all you wish – but have an accurate picture of what you are criticizing.’

    Unfortunately for you, I do have an accurate picture: ‘the soul of a gentile is closer to that of cattle than that of a human being,’ etc.

    Your attempt to bowdlerize your faith won’t work.

    In any case, it’s irrelevant. I wouldn’t justify a Cossack outrage by quoting Christ’s sentiments — and I don’t see how a people that so overwhelmingly supports Israel can be excused by reference to some laudable religious precept. We might as well talk about how Nazism was mighty fine conceptually — too bad about the gas chambers, etc.

    It’s really worse: at least most Germans genuinely didn’t know what they were supporting. Jews who support Israel can see exactly what Israel is.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  75. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, it’s certainly correct to separate criticism of Israel from criticism of Judaism – likewise, criticism of bad Jews from criticism of Judaism.

    Its natural to look for sources of what one sees as bad Jewish behavior in the religion, so I can’t blame anyone doing that. I did, once.

    But just as the behavior of Christians has often strayed rather far from the Sermon On The Mount, its unreasonable to except bad Jewish behavior to be an accurate reflection of the religion.

  76. ‘Yes, it’s certainly correct to separate criticism of Israel from criticism of Judaism – likewise, criticism of bad Jews from criticism of Judaism…

    …But just as the behavior of Christians has often strayed rather far from the Sermon On The Mount, its unreasonable to except bad Jewish behavior to be an accurate reflection of the religion.’

    This gets tedious. You’re perfectly well aware of the problem here.

    There aren’t any significant Christian groups defending and promoting bad behavior by Christians. Not merely many Jewish figures, but most Jewish figures, defend and promote Israel.

  77. cooltemp says:
    @eah

    The Hasidic Satmar sect based in Brooklym, NY does not recognize the State of Israel because of their belief that no such entity sould exist before the return of the Messiah.

  78. Bill says:
    @anon

    LOL.

    The Talmudists now lack a temple and a priesthood and are therefore not the Jews. Just as I said.

    Christianity is the completion of Judaism. The people running around today calling themselves Jews are enemies of Christianity and therefore of Judaism.

  79. @Kratoklastes

    “Property portfolio” is a good guess. One constituent GTU school already tried to sell off its campus for “development.” So far, the neighborhood has it stopped. Stacked with eight story apartments these properties are a bonanza for developers and real estate investors. Rabbi Lehmann will be forming a committee to recommend moving GTU to Fremont with the Deaf & Blind School, and selling off the Berkeley campuses. His brother-in-law is just the expert GTU needs to finesse the deal — all for purposes of Christian Charity, you understand.

  80. @Bardon Kaldian

    What’s at issue here is your definition of “theology.” Dogmatic authoritarian “theology” (logos about theos, reasoning about the divine) seems to be a Christian hybrid fathered by Neoplatonic Greek philosophizing on Hebrew fanaticism. It goes with monotheism and “religions of the book”. “My rules are the only rules. Submit or die!” But Hindu and Buddhist traditions also reason about the divine, minus the single-mindedness and the authoritarian temper.

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