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Donald Trump returned from a mostly successful trip abroad to another Main Stream Media-created scandal about Russia, this time involving son-in-law Jared Kushner [Trump returns to crisis over Kushner as White House tries to contain it, by Maggie Haberman, Glenn Thrush, and Julie Hirschfield Davis, New York Times, May 27, 2017]. American nationalists can’t help but feel some schadenfreude at this news.

Kushner is usually pinpointed by those hoping for an America First foreign policy and populist policies on trade and immigration as the most destructive influence within the White House. Now, as Kushner may be nearing his last days in the White House, Steve Bannon is now returning to prominence within the administration and is gearing up to lead the counter-offensive against the enemy media [The Trump-Russia controversy may put ‘wartime consigliere’ Steve Bannon back in the spotlight, by Sonam Sheth, Business Insider, May 27, 2017].

This is a sign for hope. And frankly, Trump supporters need that right now. The president has been disappointing his most stalwart backers since day one by rewarding his fiercest opponents with key administration jobs, adopting Paul Ryan’s domestic priorities on taxes and health care, and defending the neoconservative foreign policy he bashed during the primary. Trump has bombed Syria, the U.S. is still supporting Saudi Arabia with massive weapons sales, and the State Department still holds to the unenforceable and frankly bizarre demand that Russia hand Crimea back to Ukraine. [U.S. Sanctions on Russia Won’t Be Lifted Until Crimea Is Returned To Ukraine: Rex Tillerson, by Graham Lanktree, Newsweek, April 24, 2017]

What’s more, while the Trump foreign policy may be disappointing, Trump’s policies on immigration are, in many ways, outright betrayals.

Contrary to his campaign promises:

Indeed, Trump has not even moved on the kind of common-sense, basic nationalist issues which you would think he would seize on simply out of political self-interest.

Even National Review’s Rich Lowry and Ramesh Ponnuru complain Trump has been a “false start” for populism. They argue there was no “populist staff in waiting” to draw on for key positions, nor the “intellectual spadework” accomplished to develop a coherent agenda.

The authors blame Trump himself for much of this failure, but also the Republican Party generally. “Victory in November 2016 surprised most Republicans and gave them an opportunity to build a new governing majority,” they write. “So far they are squandering it” [Populism’s False Start, May 25, 2017].

It’s hard to disagree. Yet this is fundamentally dishonest coming from National Review.

  • With its “Against Trump” crusade, National Review led Conservatism Inc. in disowning Trump and the nationalist principles he espoused;
  • Ponnuru and Lowry urge more restrictions on immigration now, but just before Election Day, National Review published a cover story saying there was nothing that could be done about demographic change and suggesting more useless Paul Ryan/Jack Kemp efforts to win minority votes with “enterprise zones” [CITE];
  • The reason there isn’t a “populist staff in waiting” nor the full “intellectual spadework” accomplished is because the Beltway Right spent the last half century making sure we couldn’t get jobs. (But even despite that, the “Sailer Strategy” and Affordable Family Formation would provide a lodestar for a nationalist agenda. And you know at least Bannon has read this material).

But even if they don’t mean it, this does show even National Review is at least partially internalizing the lesson of Trump’s victory. Nationalist populism and an appeal to the working class can win. “True conservatism’s ” budget cutting wonkery can’t.

The real reason Trump is in trouble: he’s acting too much like a typical Republican. On healthcare, Trump and Paul Ryan are using the worst possible strategy, which is trying to tinker with an entitlement program so those who currently use it get less. This is being combined with a push for upper class tax cuts. The Democrats’ attack ads write themselves.

Ann Coulter’s strategy of restoring a free market for health care for those who don’t need welfare makes more sense than this. A single payer system like some on the Alt Right advocate would make more political sense than this. Doing absolutely nothing and focusing on trade and immigration would make the most sense of all.

But instead, Trump is throwing away his political capital to push through the agenda of a man who tried to take him out during the campaign, and may be consciously trying to make the Trump Administration fail.

And yet, Trump himself is still not being abandoned by his base. Instead, they largely blame Congress for any failures. Indeed, pollsters say voters are more loyal to Trump personally than the GOP [No buyer’s remorse: Trump backers stand strong, fault Congress for shortcomings, by Seth McLaughlin, Washington Times, May 28, 2017].

Some of this even played out in the recent Montana special election. Greg Gianforte, who is actually a bit of a cuck, actually benefited from Donald Trump’s involvement (via robocalls, Trumpist election slogans, and a direct endorsement) in the Montana special election which was supposed to be a harbinger of coming Republican catastrophe [Politico: Trump ‘Was An Asset, Not a Drag, For Greg Gianforte in Montana House Race, by Adam Shaw, Breitbart, May 26, 2017]. My theory: his last minute body slam of The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs was actually a last minute boost [Flynn: Greg Gianforte’s Critics Forgot That The Bodyslam Is A Finishing Move, by Daniel Flynn, Breitbart, May 26, 2017].

Still, Gianforte’s victory was much narrower than it should have been because of how despised the Republican health care plan is [The GOP’s health-care bill is a polling disaster, by Dan Mangan, CNBC, May 26, 2017].

Paul Ryan naturally denounced Gianforte before the election instead of just keeping his mouth shut for a few hours[Paul Ryan calls on Gianforte to apologize, Fox News, May 25, 2017]. Yet Ryan’s nauseating weakness isn’t making him some kind of a respected figure. He can’t even pull off a photo-op with 8th graders [8th graders refuse to take a photo with Paul Ryan because they don’t “want to be associated with him,” by Heather Dockray, Mashable, May 28, 2017].

The Ryan agenda is unpopular. And the GOP is in trouble. Democrat Jon Ossoff now has his biggest lead ever over Karen Handel in the GA-6 special election to replace Tom Price [Race to replace Tom Price: In-depth analysis, WXIA Atlanta, May 27, 2017]. A Democrat victory there will lead to weeks of MSM jubilation about how the Left will retake the House.

This is an especially bitter blow for immigration patriots, because Tom Price was a consistent anti-illegal immigration vote in the House, but now the seat itself may be lost. (The GOP Establishment nominee, Karen Handel, was by far the worst of the primary candidates according to Numbers USA). All so Price can push an unpopular health care bill as head of the Department of Health and Human Services. It’s an insane waste.

But why should the GOP win? What is the GOP doing with its unified control of the federal government? What is Trump?

Reports indicate Donald Trump is preparing major changes in the coming weeks [Trump pushing big White House changes as Russia crisis grows, by Michael Bender and Peter Nicholas, The Wall Street Journal, May 27, 2017]. But these can’t just be cosmetic, nor something as simple as having some lawyers look over his tweets.

The Democrats are coming for Donald Trump and they will use the Russia issue to impeach if they take the majority, even if (as it seems increasingly clear) there’s no actual crime or misconduct there. Trump needs his base, which is still loyal to him, to have a reason to fight for him. And they will fight for him—but they won’t fight for the GOP.

That means fighting for his nationalist agenda. And that means jettisoning the business-as-usual Republican approach which has put his administration on the brink of disaster. If that means annoying the deficit hawks, so be it. The nation is at stake. And so is Trump’s position as president.

It all depends on the will of Donald Trump himself. It always did. The Ruling Class is coming for him and they want to destroy him.

It’s about time to see the streetfighter and the populist that Trump’s supporters thought they had elected.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. FKA Max says:

    Great article, Mr. Kirkpatrick!

    but the “Southern strategy” will soon be obsolete, I am guessing, due to this:
    [...]
    As early as 1975 to 1980, seven southern states were net African-American migration gainers.[which?] African-American populations have continued to drop throughout much of the Northeast, especially the state of New York[8] and northern New Jersey,[9] as they rise in the South.
    [...]
    When Red States Turn Blue: An Anticipatory History of the Next Twenty Years

    So! Want to know when North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia, and Texas are actually gonna turn blue? Head o’er the fold to find out
    [...]
    Maybe Republicans adapt by appealing to more people of color, or maybe they become more competitive with moderate whites. Either way, our politics will be better off, and our country will be, too.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/3/16/1370547/-When-Red-States-Turn-Blue-An-Anticipatory-History-of-the-Next-Twenty-Years

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/tyler-cowen-interviews-raj-chetty-on-my-critique/#comment-1888709

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Meh. They've been talking about this all my life and it hasn't happened yet. Even during the last election, there were wild predictions going around that Hellary would carry Texas or--gasp!--even Georgia. Didn't happen. Trump won both states handily.
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  2. Renoman says:

    About half the Country will fight for Trump, the gun totin half. We’re all very tired of the Liberals and we mean business.

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  3. Ben Frank says:

    Anybody who loves the USA will fight to support the President.

    Unfortunately a lot of people here don’t love their country.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    Unfortunately a lot of people here don’t love their country.

     

    A lot of us believe it's more a case of no longer having a country. America is gone.
    , @jacques sheete

    Anybody who loves the USA will fight to support the President.
     
    How does that work?

    Does the rule still hold if the prez happens to do things that do not benefit the working classes?

    You may want to get yourself a good book on how the American anti-federalists felt about centralized government, monarchies, tyrants and the danger of giving one man or faction too much power.
  4. KenH says:

    It’s hard to disagree. Yet this is fundamentally dishonest coming from National Review

    Maybe, but it seems like an objective and honest appraisal of Trump the president vs. Trump the candidate. I was hoping “the Trump effect” would extend to conservative, inc. publications and unless this is just a one off teaser from Rich Lowry and Co. then perhaps they’ll move in a more populist direction. But I’m not holding my breath.

    Trump really needs to issue an EO stating that only those born of U.S. citizen parents are automatic citizens. Of course, the left will go judge shopping on the left coast and find an imperial federal judge to immediately issue injunctive relief but Trump needs to fire a shot across the bow and force this issue. Ultimately, it’s a matter for Congress and the President to jointly decide the issue and not the federal courts.

    But given that the majority of Republicans are in the orbit of the Chamber of Commerce and big business who demand an endless supply of cheap labor and the Democrats represent illegal alien interests, I don’t think patriotic Americans we’ll like the outcome.

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  5. Trump’s getting his mojo back. His rejection in Paris of the environmental accord that would have imposed more taxes on fossil fuels along with additional restrictions on coal and gas was an invigorating display of leadership.

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    Indeed, the evidence for any significant amount of human-caused global warming has been exaggerated, if not concocted altogether. As every paleo-climatologist knows, our planet’s climate has been swinging wildly (due to natural forces) from time immemorial. ‘Climate change’ is natural. The last Ice Age ended only 12,000 years ago. And these glacial periods come and go regularly. There have been eight ‘glacials’ in the past 1,000,000 years alone.

    On the other hand, 50 million years ago, giant crocodiles swam in the Arctic ocean. Enormous palms were commonplace as far north as Alaska. Our entire planet was much warmer than today and totally free of ice and permafrost. Surprised?

    These climate cycles are normal and natural. Thus, climate change is normal and natural.

    As for anthropogenic global warming, a slight warming of our atmosphere and a modest uptick in atmospheric CO2 (approaching historic averages) could be a very good thing for most plants and animals. No one knows what the ‘ideal’ climate/temperature for our planet should be. And it’s impossible to say. Watch this respected environmentalist, Patrick Moore, explain why:

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    • Replies: @Miro23

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
     
    Thanks for the excellent video. The environment is important and it's not the property of some stupid flag waving radicals at Greenpeace demonstrating about Alaska pipelines which have almost zero environmental relevance.

    A much more interesting voice is for example Peter Andrews ("Back from the Brink: How Australia's landscape can be saved") showing how Australia turned from a fertile, self sustaining continent into a dry sun baked desert as green cover based around trees was removed over tens of thousands of years by human activity - mostly Aboriginal burning but also recent European style farming.

    His is saying that fertility can be quickly rebuilt in natural cycles starting with species that arrive on their own and grow well in depleted soil (i.e. weeds). The basic point is that green cover builds fertility, regardless of what kind of plant provides it.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
     
    Me too. I'm opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns, but AGW ('cap and trade') strikes me as another finance-sector scam. I mean, think about it: if this is really the humongous problem the media make it out to be, then why haven't our 'best and brightest' come up with anything other than cap and trade by now? Hell, it's been 20+ years of non-stop AGW talk already!
    , @Agent76
    *Carbon and Life*

    It is hard to overstate the importance of carbon; its unique capacity for forming multiple bonds and chains at low energies makes life as we know it possible, and justifies an entire major branch of chemistry – organic chemistry – dedicated to its compounds. In fact, most of the compounds known to science are carbon compounds, often called organic compounds because it was in the context of biochemistry that they were first studied in depth.

    What makes carbon so special is that every carbon atom is eager to bond with as many as four other atoms. This makes it possible for long chains and rings to be formed out of them, together with other atoms – almost always hydrogen, often oxygen, sometimes nitrogen, sulfur or halides. The study of these is the basis of organic chemistry; the compounds carbon forms with metals are generally considered inorganic. Chains and rings are fundamental to the way carbon-based life forms – that is, all known life-forms – build themselves.

    Carbon Cycle and Life

    Carbon is a fundamental building block of life; life on Earth is comprised of carbon-based life forms.

    http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/478.html

    Nov 28, 2016 Weather is NOT Climate!

    No, weather is NOT climate...even when it's warm outside. But in case there's a climate cultist in your life that insists otherwise, here are some facts about global warming and vaguely-defined "extreme" weather that you can use to talk some sense into them.

    https://youtu.be/sT4133vfTmk
    , @Sowhat
    Nice to read a bit of critica thought.
  6. They want us dead!!….The Democratic Party wants us dead!!!

    Trump’s White Male Voters do not fully understand that the Democratic Party has them targeted for extermination…..

    The Trump Administration is importing legally POTUS Chelsea Clinton’s …..or POTUS Kamala Harris’s highly racialized Democratic Party Voting Bloc……this is what Trump’s White Male Voting Bloc voted for on Nov 8 2016….

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    • Replies: @DanCT
    You're right. The Leftists' hatred--basically of everything associated with Christianity and white European civilization--can be whipped into homicidal rage over just about anything at this point. Leftists are typically rank cowards hiding behind a media firewall and coddled by spineless martinets in local police, but as Samuel Johnson pointed out, a coward's chief trait isn't so much running away as it is cruelty, epitomized by that woman Griffin holding a mock-severed head of President Trump.

    It baffles me why anyone would think today's American Left, led by the grandsons of yesterday's Bolsheviks and as often as not posing as conservatives, would be any less hysterically homicidal than they were in Russia a century ago, if given the opportunity to unleash their innate cruelty. What's worse, we've been marshaled behind a Republican establishment so gutless that the pencil necked Leftist psychopaths in face masks are allowed to practice their maneuvers in the streets as if they were just some kids letting off steam.
  7. Miro23 says:
    @Mark Green
    Trump's getting his mojo back. His rejection in Paris of the environmental accord that would have imposed more taxes on fossil fuels along with additional restrictions on coal and gas was an invigorating display of leadership.

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the 'climate change' movement as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    Indeed, the evidence for any significant amount of human-caused global warming has been exaggerated, if not concocted altogether. As every paleo-climatologist knows, our planet's climate has been swinging wildly (due to natural forces) from time immemorial. 'Climate change' is natural. The last Ice Age ended only 12,000 years ago. And these glacial periods come and go regularly. There have been eight 'glacials' in the past 1,000,000 years alone.

    On the other hand, 50 million years ago, giant crocodiles swam in the Arctic ocean. Enormous palms were commonplace as far north as Alaska. Our entire planet was much warmer than today and totally free of ice and permafrost. Surprised?

    These climate cycles are normal and natural. Thus, climate change is normal and natural.

    As for anthropogenic global warming, a slight warming of our atmosphere and a modest uptick in atmospheric CO2 (approaching historic averages) could be a very good thing for most plants and animals. No one knows what the 'ideal' climate/temperature for our planet should be. And it's impossible to say. Watch this respected environmentalist, Patrick Moore, explain why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Smhn1gL6Xg&t=382s

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    Thanks for the excellent video. The environment is important and it’s not the property of some stupid flag waving radicals at Greenpeace demonstrating about Alaska pipelines which have almost zero environmental relevance.

    A much more interesting voice is for example Peter Andrews (“Back from the Brink: How Australia’s landscape can be saved”) showing how Australia turned from a fertile, self sustaining continent into a dry sun baked desert as green cover based around trees was removed over tens of thousands of years by human activity – mostly Aboriginal burning but also recent European style farming.

    His is saying that fertility can be quickly rebuilt in natural cycles starting with species that arrive on their own and grow well in depleted soil (i.e. weeds). The basic point is that green cover builds fertility, regardless of what kind of plant provides it.

    Read More
  8. @FKA Max
    Great article, Mr. Kirkpatrick!

    but the “Southern strategy” will soon be obsolete, I am guessing, due to this:
    [...]
    As early as 1975 to 1980, seven southern states were net African-American migration gainers.[which?] African-American populations have continued to drop throughout much of the Northeast, especially the state of New York[8] and northern New Jersey,[9] as they rise in the South.
    [...]
    When Red States Turn Blue: An Anticipatory History of the Next Twenty Years

    So! Want to know when North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia, and Texas are actually gonna turn blue? Head o’er the fold to find out
    [...]
    Maybe Republicans adapt by appealing to more people of color, or maybe they become more competitive with moderate whites. Either way, our politics will be better off, and our country will be, too.

    – http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/3/16/1370547/-When-Red-States-Turn-Blue-An-Anticipatory-History-of-the-Next-Twenty-Years
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/tyler-cowen-interviews-raj-chetty-on-my-critique/#comment-1888709

    Meh. They’ve been talking about this all my life and it hasn’t happened yet. Even during the last election, there were wild predictions going around that Hellary would carry Texas or–gasp!–even Georgia. Didn’t happen. Trump won both states handily.

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  9. @Mark Green
    Trump's getting his mojo back. His rejection in Paris of the environmental accord that would have imposed more taxes on fossil fuels along with additional restrictions on coal and gas was an invigorating display of leadership.

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the 'climate change' movement as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    Indeed, the evidence for any significant amount of human-caused global warming has been exaggerated, if not concocted altogether. As every paleo-climatologist knows, our planet's climate has been swinging wildly (due to natural forces) from time immemorial. 'Climate change' is natural. The last Ice Age ended only 12,000 years ago. And these glacial periods come and go regularly. There have been eight 'glacials' in the past 1,000,000 years alone.

    On the other hand, 50 million years ago, giant crocodiles swam in the Arctic ocean. Enormous palms were commonplace as far north as Alaska. Our entire planet was much warmer than today and totally free of ice and permafrost. Surprised?

    These climate cycles are normal and natural. Thus, climate change is normal and natural.

    As for anthropogenic global warming, a slight warming of our atmosphere and a modest uptick in atmospheric CO2 (approaching historic averages) could be a very good thing for most plants and animals. No one knows what the 'ideal' climate/temperature for our planet should be. And it's impossible to say. Watch this respected environmentalist, Patrick Moore, explain why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Smhn1gL6Xg&t=382s

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    Me too. I’m opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns, but AGW (‘cap and trade’) strikes me as another finance-sector scam. I mean, think about it: if this is really the humongous problem the media make it out to be, then why haven’t our ‘best and brightest’ come up with anything other than cap and trade by now? Hell, it’s been 20+ years of non-stop AGW talk already!

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    The Environmentalists have weaponized ecology-environmentalism against The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Working Class.

    Post-Dave Formeman Earth First....Earth First became a creepy Judy Barry anti-White rag picker cult.

    We need to constantly expose the genocidal intent of White Leftists and White Liberals. Richard Spencer could do this very easily by calling for Native Born White Americans to start having large Families again so as to undermine the Left-Liberal agenda of genocide via importing highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Asians...Hispanics...Muslims...Jamaicans...Africans.....Sit back and watch the Leftists-Liberals calling for Native Born White Americans to stop having White babies.
    , @Rurik

    Me too. I’m opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns
     
    me too!

    the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. If they really were worried about greenhouse gases, they'd have figured out that the rain forests and the fauna in general, are what eat carbon dioxide for breakfast. But they never mention the destruction of the rainforests and the exponentially exploding numbers of people in the developing world. Just Africa itself is slated to grow by a few billion in the next few decades.

    it's all a mindless scheme to fill the planet with bipedal farm animal$ who'll have a zero footprint and drink their own piss

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/a-brewery-in-denmark-is-selling-beer-made-out-of-piss/

    this is becoming a trend, I shit you not

    they want you to live like this

    http://pirates.missiledine.com/images/slaves/Slaveship.png

    as they fly around in private jets

    the same liberal scum who demand we all reduce our footprint, are the same people demanding that we add millions upon hundreds of millions of super-prolific third world peoples to nations and continents that are otherwise reducing their human numbers- and consequently the carbon footprint that people necessarily make. It's hypocrisy to the hilt, and beyond.

    when the say the science is settled, they sound like religious fanatics, and indeed, that's exactly what it's come to.

    Kudos to Trump for this one. Paris was just another Goldman Sachs scheme to loot the first world under the pretense of equalizing everyone - the ultimate liberal End Times climax

  10. @Seamus Padraig

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
     
    Me too. I'm opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns, but AGW ('cap and trade') strikes me as another finance-sector scam. I mean, think about it: if this is really the humongous problem the media make it out to be, then why haven't our 'best and brightest' come up with anything other than cap and trade by now? Hell, it's been 20+ years of non-stop AGW talk already!

    The Environmentalists have weaponized ecology-environmentalism against The Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Working Class.

    Post-Dave Formeman Earth First….Earth First became a creepy Judy Barry anti-White rag picker cult.

    We need to constantly expose the genocidal intent of White Leftists and White Liberals. Richard Spencer could do this very easily by calling for Native Born White Americans to start having large Families again so as to undermine the Left-Liberal agenda of genocide via importing highly RACIALIZED nonwhite Asians…Hispanics…Muslims…Jamaicans…Africans…..Sit back and watch the Leftists-Liberals calling for Native Born White Americans to stop having White babies.

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  11. And what’s with Richard Spencer and Paul Kersey….always pining for an Emperor Barron…

    Donald Trump and Melania are a filthy disgusting cockroach breeding pair….

    The model for the Alt Right should be the highly racialized and racially xenophobi-anti-interventionist late 18th-early 19th century labor movement….that gave us such WONDERFULL policies as the Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act and the Sihk Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act….

    The idea that an administration with a Goldman Sachs cockroach infestation was gonna look out after the interests and welfare of the Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class was, and is, laughable….Noam Chomsky has made this point several times over the past year…and he is right….

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  12. DanCT says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    They want us dead!!....The Democratic Party wants us dead!!!


    Trump's White Male Voters do not fully understand that the Democratic Party has them targeted for extermination.....


    The Trump Administration is importing legally POTUS Chelsea Clinton's .....or POTUS Kamala Harris's highly racialized Democratic Party Voting Bloc......this is what Trump's White Male Voting Bloc voted for on Nov 8 2016....

    You’re right. The Leftists’ hatred–basically of everything associated with Christianity and white European civilization–can be whipped into homicidal rage over just about anything at this point. Leftists are typically rank cowards hiding behind a media firewall and coddled by spineless martinets in local police, but as Samuel Johnson pointed out, a coward’s chief trait isn’t so much running away as it is cruelty, epitomized by that woman Griffin holding a mock-severed head of President Trump.

    It baffles me why anyone would think today’s American Left, led by the grandsons of yesterday’s Bolsheviks and as often as not posing as conservatives, would be any less hysterically homicidal than they were in Russia a century ago, if given the opportunity to unleash their innate cruelty. What’s worse, we’ve been marshaled behind a Republican establishment so gutless that the pencil necked Leftist psychopaths in face masks are allowed to practice their maneuvers in the streets as if they were just some kids letting off steam.

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    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    On the one hand Trump is a stand in for all White Males...This was the zietgiest of Kathy Griffin's mock beheading of Trump....but Trump wages war against Christian Russia...and demographic race war against his White Male voting bloc....Trump is legally importing Hindu-Jamaican POTUS Kamala Harris's nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc...

    Trump is a filthy cockroach...
  13. @DanCT
    You're right. The Leftists' hatred--basically of everything associated with Christianity and white European civilization--can be whipped into homicidal rage over just about anything at this point. Leftists are typically rank cowards hiding behind a media firewall and coddled by spineless martinets in local police, but as Samuel Johnson pointed out, a coward's chief trait isn't so much running away as it is cruelty, epitomized by that woman Griffin holding a mock-severed head of President Trump.

    It baffles me why anyone would think today's American Left, led by the grandsons of yesterday's Bolsheviks and as often as not posing as conservatives, would be any less hysterically homicidal than they were in Russia a century ago, if given the opportunity to unleash their innate cruelty. What's worse, we've been marshaled behind a Republican establishment so gutless that the pencil necked Leftist psychopaths in face masks are allowed to practice their maneuvers in the streets as if they were just some kids letting off steam.

    On the one hand Trump is a stand in for all White Males…This was the zietgiest of Kathy Griffin’s mock beheading of Trump….but Trump wages war against Christian Russia…and demographic race war against his White Male voting bloc….Trump is legally importing Hindu-Jamaican POTUS Kamala Harris’s nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc…

    Trump is a filthy cockroach…

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  14. Z-man says:

    Well, the last two days have been good now if only Ivanka and Jared could be kicked out (completely) from the WH. Yeah at least just let the son-in-law concentrate on his professed passion to bring peace in the ME. Out!!
    Build that wall Donald!!

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  15. Anon says: • Website • Disclaimer

    a trump loss would have been better for white nationalism/the future of the white race….we thought trump would slow down immigration and give us more time to beat the demographic tide…can we red pill enough whites before the demographic tide overwhelms us?

    The thing is that a clinton win would have continued much of the anti-white race baiting that was widespread during the obama reign…that anti-white race baiting red pilled millions of whites…if trump is not going lower immigration, it would have been better for us whites if clinton would have won and thus we would have continued to red pill whites….as the saying goes, the worse, the better…

    at this point, i hope the senate goes Dem in 2018….trump is a cuck …and a cuck is worse than Dems because at least Dems are going red pill more whites…either lower immigration or red pill whites…that is the path to victory…

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  16. @Ben Frank
    Anybody who loves the USA will fight to support the President.

    Unfortunately a lot of people here don't love their country.

    Unfortunately a lot of people here don’t love their country.

    A lot of us believe it’s more a case of no longer having a country. America is gone.

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  17. Donald Trump returned from a mostly successful trip abroad to another Main Stream Media-created scandal …bla bla bla…

    Anyone who uses the term, MSM, in that way exposes him/herself as a non-thinking, brainwashed dupe.

    Why would anyone want to read anything that such a creature has to say except to criticize it?

    FYI, it’s more accurately referred to as corporate or plutarch media, or presstitute or sewer media. This is the 21st century; time to get with the program!

    Besides, Humpty Trump is not the Messiah and never will be. God, and any deus ex machina is long dead, so Trump neither needs nor deserves any defense or apologies. It’s pretty obvious that he’s a fraud like all the rest.

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  18. Kirkpatrick: Good information, good description, effective summary. I did laugh briefly at the thought of Rich Lowry mustering sufficient awareness to complain, versus whine.

    Trump is a bust. Face it. Things will now go straight to hell via a somewhat different course than the Saturn 5 booster into Perdition that Hillary would have brought us. Thank heavens for small favors, eh? It’s funny when a rocky, violent trip to hell via Trump Express is a “small favor”, but there you have it.

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  19. Agent76 says:

    May 31, 2017 “Men in dark suits” rule the US – Putin on Deep State

    Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an interview with French publication Le Figaro, has revealed that a US president is more often than not just a figurehead of government.

    Mar 6, 2017 Zakharova warns of Orwellian US Media 2.03.17

    Have a listen to what Zakharova has to say in relation to “fake news”. Is there a deliberate campaign to undermine trust in all traditional media, so that the public can no longer form an opinion?

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  20. Agent76 says:

    Dec 7, 2016 Trump Fills the Swamp With Steven Mnuchin

    Trump has named Steven Mnuchin as his Treasury Secretary. So who is Mnuchin, and what does his background tell us about his ideology and what kind of administration Trump is assembling?

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  21. @Ben Frank
    Anybody who loves the USA will fight to support the President.

    Unfortunately a lot of people here don't love their country.

    Anybody who loves the USA will fight to support the President.

    How does that work?

    Does the rule still hold if the prez happens to do things that do not benefit the working classes?

    You may want to get yourself a good book on how the American anti-federalists felt about centralized government, monarchies, tyrants and the danger of giving one man or faction too much power.

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  22. I voted for Trump but have been very disappointed in him so far. He has done virtually nothing on immigration aside from a failed, meaningless 3 months ban on certain muslim countries. He has done nothing to end the abuse of H1b or OPT, allowing another 85,000 applications to go through this past April. He could’ve easily scrapped the Obama EO on OPT which extended the optional practical training for foreign grads(of any major) to nearly 3 years, a stupid program that actually gives US employers tax incentives to hire foreign grads ahead of our own grads. Instead of cancelling the fraud ridden EB-5 program, he gave it another extension, now we find out Jared Kushner’s family real estate firm is actually actively selling that visa to more corrupt Chinese. Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin’s catch and release program at the borders. And his first budget does not even include the Wall. He extended amnesty to DACA without even using it as a bargaining chip for the wall!

    His foreign policy is even worse. He bombed Syria without any real evidence on the gas attack, and is cozying up to Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest sponsor of Islamic terror, and Israel to make unnecessary enemies of Russia, Assad and Iran. Selling over $100m of our most sophisticated weapons to Saudi Arabia was the stupidest move ever. His daughter’s “Women Entrepreneur Fund” is becoming the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, replacing the Clinton Foundation. Taking $40m donation from the Arabs, a country that doesn’t even allow women to drive, is a joke.

    The Healthcare “fix” actually made things worse by removing the two best provisions of ObamaCare that was essential in keeping prices low – the individual mandate and the Cadillac tax. Without the individual mandate, we’ll have to let people die on the streets. We need to decouple health insurance from employment and the Cadillac Tax at least is one step towards that direction.

    Bringing in Jared and Ivanka to the WH was a complete mistake. Nobody elected those two NY liberals, along with all the wall street liberals they brought in to dominate Trump’s cabinet. This article is spot on, if Trump wants his support back, he needs to send Jared and Ivanka packing, and get his Nationalist agenda back on board ASAP.

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    • Replies: @Mark Green
    I agree. You're totally right. But Trump may reverse course and fulfill his campaign promises yet. It's possible. But he's got to get clear of his crypto-Israeli in-laws as well as the Goldman Sachs cabal occupies so much of his cabinet. This may be next-to impossible. At least Trump hasn't moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. That's a hopeful sign.

    I think that Trump was freaked out by all the organized opposition that exploded after he won the election. So he caved for a bit in order to fake out his tormentors. Now he's feeling 'presidential'. And Hillary is finally riding off into the sunset. Adios!

    Trump is now beginning to show signs of independence, recovering sanity and a willingness to take on the Deep State which includes the neocon/neoliberal establishment. Trump may turn out be a populist fighter after all.
    , @Macumazahn
    President Trump has indeed been a terrible disappointment, but I'm willing to forgive quite a lot in return for Neil Gorsuch securing a seat on the Supreme Court bench.
    , @KenH

    Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin’s catch and release program at the borders.
     
    Sadly, it looks like this is true. I just heard an internet radio news report that, according to the president of the border patrol, ICE is essentially continuing the Obama era of "catch and release" just to a lesser degree.

    I could have sworn that Trump vowed to end this policy "on day one". If ICE is taking it upon themselves to continue this policy then Trump needs to put a swift end to it.

    If Trump does nothing then he can count this deplorable out in 2020. I thought a vote for Trump would mean a sane and nationalistic immigration policy and that whites might just get their country back. So far, Trump's off to a glacially slow start.
  23. Agent76 says:
    @Mark Green
    Trump's getting his mojo back. His rejection in Paris of the environmental accord that would have imposed more taxes on fossil fuels along with additional restrictions on coal and gas was an invigorating display of leadership.

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the 'climate change' movement as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    Indeed, the evidence for any significant amount of human-caused global warming has been exaggerated, if not concocted altogether. As every paleo-climatologist knows, our planet's climate has been swinging wildly (due to natural forces) from time immemorial. 'Climate change' is natural. The last Ice Age ended only 12,000 years ago. And these glacial periods come and go regularly. There have been eight 'glacials' in the past 1,000,000 years alone.

    On the other hand, 50 million years ago, giant crocodiles swam in the Arctic ocean. Enormous palms were commonplace as far north as Alaska. Our entire planet was much warmer than today and totally free of ice and permafrost. Surprised?

    These climate cycles are normal and natural. Thus, climate change is normal and natural.

    As for anthropogenic global warming, a slight warming of our atmosphere and a modest uptick in atmospheric CO2 (approaching historic averages) could be a very good thing for most plants and animals. No one knows what the 'ideal' climate/temperature for our planet should be. And it's impossible to say. Watch this respected environmentalist, Patrick Moore, explain why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Smhn1gL6Xg&t=382s

    *Carbon and Life*

    It is hard to overstate the importance of carbon; its unique capacity for forming multiple bonds and chains at low energies makes life as we know it possible, and justifies an entire major branch of chemistry – organic chemistry – dedicated to its compounds. In fact, most of the compounds known to science are carbon compounds, often called organic compounds because it was in the context of biochemistry that they were first studied in depth.

    What makes carbon so special is that every carbon atom is eager to bond with as many as four other atoms. This makes it possible for long chains and rings to be formed out of them, together with other atoms – almost always hydrogen, often oxygen, sometimes nitrogen, sulfur or halides. The study of these is the basis of organic chemistry; the compounds carbon forms with metals are generally considered inorganic. Chains and rings are fundamental to the way carbon-based life forms – that is, all known life-forms – build themselves.

    Carbon Cycle and Life

    Carbon is a fundamental building block of life; life on Earth is comprised of carbon-based life forms.

    http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/478.html

    Nov 28, 2016 Weather is NOT Climate!

    No, weather is NOT climate…even when it’s warm outside. But in case there’s a climate cultist in your life that insists otherwise, here are some facts about global warming and vaguely-defined “extreme” weather that you can use to talk some sense into them.

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  24. @Soon to be former Trump supporter
    I voted for Trump but have been very disappointed in him so far. He has done virtually nothing on immigration aside from a failed, meaningless 3 months ban on certain muslim countries. He has done nothing to end the abuse of H1b or OPT, allowing another 85,000 applications to go through this past April. He could've easily scrapped the Obama EO on OPT which extended the optional practical training for foreign grads(of any major) to nearly 3 years, a stupid program that actually gives US employers tax incentives to hire foreign grads ahead of our own grads. Instead of cancelling the fraud ridden EB-5 program, he gave it another extension, now we find out Jared Kushner's family real estate firm is actually actively selling that visa to more corrupt Chinese. Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin's catch and release program at the borders. And his first budget does not even include the Wall. He extended amnesty to DACA without even using it as a bargaining chip for the wall!

    His foreign policy is even worse. He bombed Syria without any real evidence on the gas attack, and is cozying up to Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest sponsor of Islamic terror, and Israel to make unnecessary enemies of Russia, Assad and Iran. Selling over $100m of our most sophisticated weapons to Saudi Arabia was the stupidest move ever. His daughter's "Women Entrepreneur Fund" is becoming the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, replacing the Clinton Foundation. Taking $40m donation from the Arabs, a country that doesn't even allow women to drive, is a joke.

    The Healthcare "fix" actually made things worse by removing the two best provisions of ObamaCare that was essential in keeping prices low - the individual mandate and the Cadillac tax. Without the individual mandate, we'll have to let people die on the streets. We need to decouple health insurance from employment and the Cadillac Tax at least is one step towards that direction.

    Bringing in Jared and Ivanka to the WH was a complete mistake. Nobody elected those two NY liberals, along with all the wall street liberals they brought in to dominate Trump's cabinet. This article is spot on, if Trump wants his support back, he needs to send Jared and Ivanka packing, and get his Nationalist agenda back on board ASAP.

    I agree. You’re totally right. But Trump may reverse course and fulfill his campaign promises yet. It’s possible. But he’s got to get clear of his crypto-Israeli in-laws as well as the Goldman Sachs cabal occupies so much of his cabinet. This may be next-to impossible. At least Trump hasn’t moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. That’s a hopeful sign.

    I think that Trump was freaked out by all the organized opposition that exploded after he won the election. So he caved for a bit in order to fake out his tormentors. Now he’s feeling ‘presidential’. And Hillary is finally riding off into the sunset. Adios!

    Trump is now beginning to show signs of independence, recovering sanity and a willingness to take on the Deep State which includes the neocon/neoliberal establishment. Trump may turn out be a populist fighter after all.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Nothing short of pulling all US Miltary Troops out of the Middle East and off of Christian Russians borders is acceptable. I just crossed over the bridge in Sag Harbor fifteen minutes ago... named after another 19 year Native Born White American Teeanage....Justin Haerter....killed in action in Iraq....USMC...The ferry to Shelter Island named after Lt Theinert killed in action in Iraq...24 years old graduate of Shelter Island High School.



    Lots of wealthy Democratic Party Donors......Euro-Trash....Elite South American Trash....walking around....the homos and tranny degenerates walking around......They died protecting the freedom of these GD freaks....pointless meaningless deaths.....



    Trump will disappoint you....for he is a psychopath....as if that wasn't obvious after he gleefully announced that after he gave the order to slaughter 12 innocent Syrian children with cruise missiles.....he enjoyed the Slovenian Whore Melania's scrumptious chocolate cake!!!!
  25. @Mark Green
    I agree. You're totally right. But Trump may reverse course and fulfill his campaign promises yet. It's possible. But he's got to get clear of his crypto-Israeli in-laws as well as the Goldman Sachs cabal occupies so much of his cabinet. This may be next-to impossible. At least Trump hasn't moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. That's a hopeful sign.

    I think that Trump was freaked out by all the organized opposition that exploded after he won the election. So he caved for a bit in order to fake out his tormentors. Now he's feeling 'presidential'. And Hillary is finally riding off into the sunset. Adios!

    Trump is now beginning to show signs of independence, recovering sanity and a willingness to take on the Deep State which includes the neocon/neoliberal establishment. Trump may turn out be a populist fighter after all.

    Nothing short of pulling all US Miltary Troops out of the Middle East and off of Christian Russians borders is acceptable. I just crossed over the bridge in Sag Harbor fifteen minutes ago… named after another 19 year Native Born White American Teeanage….Justin Haerter….killed in action in Iraq….USMC…The ferry to Shelter Island named after Lt Theinert killed in action in Iraq…24 years old graduate of Shelter Island High School.

    Lots of wealthy Democratic Party Donors……Euro-Trash….Elite South American Trash….walking around….the homos and tranny degenerates walking around……They died protecting the freedom of these GD freaks….pointless meaningless deaths…..

    Trump will disappoint you….for he is a psychopath….as if that wasn’t obvious after he gleefully announced that after he gave the order to slaughter 12 innocent Syrian children with cruise missiles…..he enjoyed the Slovenian Whore Melania’s scrumptious chocolate cake!!!!

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  26. Rurik says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the ‘climate change’ movement as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
     
    Me too. I'm opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns, but AGW ('cap and trade') strikes me as another finance-sector scam. I mean, think about it: if this is really the humongous problem the media make it out to be, then why haven't our 'best and brightest' come up with anything other than cap and trade by now? Hell, it's been 20+ years of non-stop AGW talk already!

    Me too. I’m opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns

    me too!

    the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. If they really were worried about greenhouse gases, they’d have figured out that the rain forests and the fauna in general, are what eat carbon dioxide for breakfast. But they never mention the destruction of the rainforests and the exponentially exploding numbers of people in the developing world. Just Africa itself is slated to grow by a few billion in the next few decades.

    it’s all a mindless scheme to fill the planet with bipedal farm animal$ who’ll have a zero footprint and drink their own piss

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/a-brewery-in-denmark-is-selling-beer-made-out-of-piss/

    this is becoming a trend, I shit you not

    they want you to live like this

    as they fly around in private jets

    the same liberal scum who demand we all reduce our footprint, are the same people demanding that we add millions upon hundreds of millions of super-prolific third world peoples to nations and continents that are otherwise reducing their human numbers- and consequently the carbon footprint that people necessarily make. It’s hypocrisy to the hilt, and beyond.

    when the say the science is settled, they sound like religious fanatics, and indeed, that’s exactly what it’s come to.

    Kudos to Trump for this one. Paris was just another Goldman Sachs scheme to loot the first world under the pretense of equalizing everyone – the ultimate liberal End Times climax

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }


    Nonsense.

    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
    India loses about 30%40% of the grain it produces to rats and other losses of effed up storage.

    About 30%-40% of the food produced in the world is lost/wasted due to storage inefficiency, loss to critters, and simple waste (thrown away).

    Here in the US about 30%-40% of the food produced is simply thrown away.
    For example, USDA mandates that fruits that do not meet some arbitrary standard of 'appearance' be thrown away.
    People buy tons of food, then let it rot - and then throw it away.
    Because it's so cheap.

    There is so much food produced in US, that retailers give you coupons to buy their food. The Market says there is more food than people to consume it.

    US has about 320 million people. Most of US is empty.
    I have driven coast-to-coast USA: outside of metropolitan centers, it's hours and hours of nothing.
    I live in California.
    I drive up 395 frequently. There is endless empty land outside of cities.

    Densely populated Japan has no population growth and is slowly shrinking.

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That's what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
    Is there anything more beautiful than a healthy giggling baby?
    Or a bunch of little kids running around in a park?
    No kids, No life.

    Now, I understand there is a disconnect between '1st world', which tries its best to care for the environment and, say, many African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don't know what the solution is.
    But I know that people in the '1st world' who are worried about so-called 'overpopulation' and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.

    Here in the US, we have more tree coverage than 100 years ago*.
    How did that happen?
    There is an obesity epidemic in US: people and children are getting fatter every year.
    Why? too much food and too much junk food.
    How can you have 320 million people and have too much food _and_ a planet that supposedly faces a so-called 'existential crisis'.
    Absurd.

    -----
    *
    [America has more trees now than it's had in 100 years. But we're not out of the woods yet.]
    http://www.upworthy.com/america-has-more-trees-now-than-its-had-in-100-years-but-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet
  27. DaveE says:

    I don’t even know who Trump’s “base” is and I very much doubt he does, either.

    Like so many I know, I voted for Trump out of sheer revulsion for the reptile the Dems were offering. (I refuse to speak its name.) IMHO people like me are Trump’s base.

    Most of us would just like ANY serious sign of loyalty to America over Israel and so far, Mr. Trump has given us NOTHING.

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    • Replies: @geokat62

    Most of us would just like ANY serious sign of loyalty to America over Israel...
     
    You've hit the nail on the head. This is the core issue that needs to be repeated, over and over again.
  28. Avery says:
    @Rurik

    Me too. I’m opposed to pollution and am generally sympathetic to environmental concerns
     
    me too!

    the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. If they really were worried about greenhouse gases, they'd have figured out that the rain forests and the fauna in general, are what eat carbon dioxide for breakfast. But they never mention the destruction of the rainforests and the exponentially exploding numbers of people in the developing world. Just Africa itself is slated to grow by a few billion in the next few decades.

    it's all a mindless scheme to fill the planet with bipedal farm animal$ who'll have a zero footprint and drink their own piss

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/a-brewery-in-denmark-is-selling-beer-made-out-of-piss/

    this is becoming a trend, I shit you not

    they want you to live like this

    http://pirates.missiledine.com/images/slaves/Slaveship.png

    as they fly around in private jets

    the same liberal scum who demand we all reduce our footprint, are the same people demanding that we add millions upon hundreds of millions of super-prolific third world peoples to nations and continents that are otherwise reducing their human numbers- and consequently the carbon footprint that people necessarily make. It's hypocrisy to the hilt, and beyond.

    when the say the science is settled, they sound like religious fanatics, and indeed, that's exactly what it's come to.

    Kudos to Trump for this one. Paris was just another Goldman Sachs scheme to loot the first world under the pretense of equalizing everyone - the ultimate liberal End Times climax

    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }

    Nonsense.

    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
    India loses about 30%40% of the grain it produces to rats and other losses of effed up storage.

    About 30%-40% of the food produced in the world is lost/wasted due to storage inefficiency, loss to critters, and simple waste (thrown away).

    Here in the US about 30%-40% of the food produced is simply thrown away.
    For example, USDA mandates that fruits that do not meet some arbitrary standard of ‘appearance’ be thrown away.
    People buy tons of food, then let it rot – and then throw it away.
    Because it’s so cheap.

    There is so much food produced in US, that retailers give you coupons to buy their food. The Market says there is more food than people to consume it.

    US has about 320 million people. Most of US is empty.
    I have driven coast-to-coast USA: outside of metropolitan centers, it’s hours and hours of nothing.
    I live in California.
    I drive up 395 frequently. There is endless empty land outside of cities.

    Densely populated Japan has no population growth and is slowly shrinking.

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That’s what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
    Is there anything more beautiful than a healthy giggling baby?
    Or a bunch of little kids running around in a park?
    No kids, No life.

    Now, I understand there is a disconnect between ’1st world’, which tries its best to care for the environment and, say, many African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don’t know what the solution is.
    But I know that people in the ’1st world’ who are worried about so-called ‘overpopulation’ and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.

    Here in the US, we have more tree coverage than 100 years ago*.
    How did that happen?
    There is an obesity epidemic in US: people and children are getting fatter every year.
    Why? too much food and too much junk food.
    How can you have 320 million people and have too much food _and_ a planet that supposedly faces a so-called ‘existential crisis’.
    Absurd.

    —–
    *
    [America has more trees now than it's had in 100 years. But we're not out of the woods yet.]

    http://www.upworthy.com/america-has-more-trees-now-than-its-had-in-100-years-but-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet

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    • Replies: @Avery
    One more thing: the Planet is not facing an existential crises.
    Human beings who co-populate the Earth with other living things _do_ face an existential threat.

    Not from overpopulation, but from nuclear weapons.

    The Earth will continue rotating about its axis and will continue rotating around the sun for the next 5 billion years or so.
    The Earth was around long before humans appeared and has gone through many extinctions of living things - e.g. dinosaurs - and keeps on chugging.

    About 5 billion years from now is when the sun will run out of fuel, turn into a red giant, and incinerate the earth.

    But until then, there is a very real possibility of a worldwide nuclear war that will extinguish all life on Earth.
    Except maybe cockroaches.

    , @Rurik (from another location)


    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }
     
    Nonsense.
    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
     
    China was so overcrowded that they had to enforce a one child per couple policy

    been to New Delhi lately?

    http://lghttp.60358.nexcesscdn.net/8046264/images/page/-/iStock_000001307820Small.jpg

    there's a reason I posted that picture of the slave ship with humans packed in like sardines, because that's what they have in mind of all of us. Living on top of each other in crowed cities, while they live on 500 acre ranches in Wyoming or estates in the British countryside.

    when people are packed in like sardines, the quality of life goes down Avery. It's not just about how many people you can fit onto a ship or a planet, it's about what kind of life they're going to have. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality of life of the next generations of people who'll come after us will be so blighted with congestion and controls and laws that they'll curse us in our graves for our greed and short-sighted selfishness, as all the magnificent wild animals will all be extinct or in fenced in zoos, and the rain forests gone and the African savannas filled with asphalt and more human habitats as the rhinos and wildebeests and lions are replaced with domestic, bipedal farm animals/consumers/cannon fodder/tax slaves.

    It's an unspeakable sin what we're doing out of blind greed, with no appreciation for the other life forms that have been on this planet for millions upon millions of years. And with whom we are infinitely graced and uplifted by sharing the planet with.

    Just Fukushima alone has done unprecedented damage to the Pacific ocean. If we wiped out all the whales and dolphins and sea turtles and all the rest, would that count on your ledger for anything of consequence? So long as we humans could feast on Soilent Green and fill the oceans with artificial habitats for more cud-chewing zombies consuming and paying taxes and obsessing over Kim Kardashian's ass?

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That’s what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
     
    this is just silly

    we don't need 'population growth' to have children. We can have millions and millions of children without encroaching on every last bastion of wild land on the planet.

    There seems to be some kind of imperative within the human animal to insist that we have to take over and dominate every last wild blade of grass or square foot of forest. What's wrong with letting some wild, unspoiled places exist for their own sake? Why does everything on this planet have to be or exploited or used up for human consumption?

    African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don’t know what the solution is.
     
    education, empowerment of women, birth control

    the reason those people's numbers are exploding is because their governments want them to. Just like the Catholic church or other institutions where more people = more money/power. As long as that's the metric, we going to see places like Haiti over-populate until their lush islands are turned into mud and sludge. It's the mindless paradigm of the leaders that more people mean more money/power. It's also blind tribalism. Human assholes think that if they breed more Mexicans, and send them forth into the hinterlands, that they'll be able to use them for tribal hegemony, which they do. But it's the blind tribalism that has to be stopped by telling places like Mexico that N. America will no longer be their pressure valve release or dumping grounds. Because as long as Mexico or Africa or India or China- or anywhere else that they've mindlessly overpopulated, that they can no longer use other people's lands to function as an overflow valve... because as long as they can do that, they will. It's tribalism, and that is deeply hardwired into the human beast.

    But I know that people in the ’1st world’ who are worried about so-called ‘overpopulation’ and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.
     
    what was it you said, we can go to 50 billion?

    your mentality is like the slave ship owner. The more you pack in, the worse their lives are going to be.

    One more thing: the Planet is not facing an existential crises.
    ...
    ...
    The Earth will continue rotating about its axis and will continue rotating around the sun for the next 5 billion years or so.

     

    Really?

    You think when I say the planet is facing a crisis, that I mean the lifeless rock?

    whew, but I over estimate some people

    it's all about the kind of planet we leave to the next generations Avery. Not the lifeless rock.

    it's about living in Siberia without the knowledge that there are Siberian tigers left in the wild.

    or being on the ocean knowing that all the whales and sea turtles and dolphins and other magnificent life forms have all been wiped out.

    it's about the quality of life and freedom and space to come and go and sharing this planet with the snow leopards and mountain gorillas and elephants and other fellow denizens of the miraculous place in a universe where we might just be the only one like it. And to destroy it to make room for 50 billion more zombies is such a sin as to be incomprehensible to me in it's short sighted folly.
  29. Avery says:
    @Avery
    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }


    Nonsense.

    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
    India loses about 30%40% of the grain it produces to rats and other losses of effed up storage.

    About 30%-40% of the food produced in the world is lost/wasted due to storage inefficiency, loss to critters, and simple waste (thrown away).

    Here in the US about 30%-40% of the food produced is simply thrown away.
    For example, USDA mandates that fruits that do not meet some arbitrary standard of 'appearance' be thrown away.
    People buy tons of food, then let it rot - and then throw it away.
    Because it's so cheap.

    There is so much food produced in US, that retailers give you coupons to buy their food. The Market says there is more food than people to consume it.

    US has about 320 million people. Most of US is empty.
    I have driven coast-to-coast USA: outside of metropolitan centers, it's hours and hours of nothing.
    I live in California.
    I drive up 395 frequently. There is endless empty land outside of cities.

    Densely populated Japan has no population growth and is slowly shrinking.

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That's what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
    Is there anything more beautiful than a healthy giggling baby?
    Or a bunch of little kids running around in a park?
    No kids, No life.

    Now, I understand there is a disconnect between '1st world', which tries its best to care for the environment and, say, many African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don't know what the solution is.
    But I know that people in the '1st world' who are worried about so-called 'overpopulation' and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.

    Here in the US, we have more tree coverage than 100 years ago*.
    How did that happen?
    There is an obesity epidemic in US: people and children are getting fatter every year.
    Why? too much food and too much junk food.
    How can you have 320 million people and have too much food _and_ a planet that supposedly faces a so-called 'existential crisis'.
    Absurd.

    -----
    *
    [America has more trees now than it's had in 100 years. But we're not out of the woods yet.]
    http://www.upworthy.com/america-has-more-trees-now-than-its-had-in-100-years-but-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet

    One more thing: the Planet is not facing an existential crises.
    Human beings who co-populate the Earth with other living things _do_ face an existential threat.

    Not from overpopulation, but from nuclear weapons.

    The Earth will continue rotating about its axis and will continue rotating around the sun for the next 5 billion years or so.
    The Earth was around long before humans appeared and has gone through many extinctions of living things – e.g. dinosaurs – and keeps on chugging.

    About 5 billion years from now is when the sun will run out of fuel, turn into a red giant, and incinerate the earth.

    But until then, there is a very real possibility of a worldwide nuclear war that will extinguish all life on Earth.
    Except maybe cockroaches.

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  30. We’ll never be rid of Obamacare. Once the State extends a new teat, the parasites instantly latch onto the fresh nipple, and once that happens, the teat can never be withdrawn.
    The fundamental problem is that society has decided that the indigent must be provided with medical care. America simply doesn’t have the stomach to watch the poor die in the streets. Since health-care providers don’t work for free (and hospitals don’t build themselves) this means that the costs of caring for the destitute must be paid by the productive. This in turn means that the price of health care will be far higher than its actual value to the (paying) recipient. Hence no one is willing to pay for his own medical care, giving rise to the health insurance racket and, in the end, single-payer State-run health care.
    There’s no way around it – either let the poor die, or endure State-run health care.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    The fundamental problem is that society has decided that the indigent must be provided with medical care.
     
    Not exactly.

    The fundamental problem is that the plutarchs have decided that the indigent can be used as an excuse to pick the pockets of the productive and to really make it cook by getting "government" (really an extortion racket) to do the picking on the the plutarchs' behalf. The basics of the scam are as old as government and it's surprising and depressing that the scam has to be continually explained.

    If there were no profits in the game, precious few would pretend to give a damn about health care for the indigent or anyone else.


    "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." ~ Albert Camus
     

    "There is no art which government sooner learns of another than that of draining money from the pockets of the people." ~ Adam Smith
     
  31. @Soon to be former Trump supporter
    I voted for Trump but have been very disappointed in him so far. He has done virtually nothing on immigration aside from a failed, meaningless 3 months ban on certain muslim countries. He has done nothing to end the abuse of H1b or OPT, allowing another 85,000 applications to go through this past April. He could've easily scrapped the Obama EO on OPT which extended the optional practical training for foreign grads(of any major) to nearly 3 years, a stupid program that actually gives US employers tax incentives to hire foreign grads ahead of our own grads. Instead of cancelling the fraud ridden EB-5 program, he gave it another extension, now we find out Jared Kushner's family real estate firm is actually actively selling that visa to more corrupt Chinese. Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin's catch and release program at the borders. And his first budget does not even include the Wall. He extended amnesty to DACA without even using it as a bargaining chip for the wall!

    His foreign policy is even worse. He bombed Syria without any real evidence on the gas attack, and is cozying up to Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest sponsor of Islamic terror, and Israel to make unnecessary enemies of Russia, Assad and Iran. Selling over $100m of our most sophisticated weapons to Saudi Arabia was the stupidest move ever. His daughter's "Women Entrepreneur Fund" is becoming the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, replacing the Clinton Foundation. Taking $40m donation from the Arabs, a country that doesn't even allow women to drive, is a joke.

    The Healthcare "fix" actually made things worse by removing the two best provisions of ObamaCare that was essential in keeping prices low - the individual mandate and the Cadillac tax. Without the individual mandate, we'll have to let people die on the streets. We need to decouple health insurance from employment and the Cadillac Tax at least is one step towards that direction.

    Bringing in Jared and Ivanka to the WH was a complete mistake. Nobody elected those two NY liberals, along with all the wall street liberals they brought in to dominate Trump's cabinet. This article is spot on, if Trump wants his support back, he needs to send Jared and Ivanka packing, and get his Nationalist agenda back on board ASAP.

    President Trump has indeed been a terrible disappointment, but I’m willing to forgive quite a lot in return for Neil Gorsuch securing a seat on the Supreme Court bench.

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  32. KenH says:
    @Soon to be former Trump supporter
    I voted for Trump but have been very disappointed in him so far. He has done virtually nothing on immigration aside from a failed, meaningless 3 months ban on certain muslim countries. He has done nothing to end the abuse of H1b or OPT, allowing another 85,000 applications to go through this past April. He could've easily scrapped the Obama EO on OPT which extended the optional practical training for foreign grads(of any major) to nearly 3 years, a stupid program that actually gives US employers tax incentives to hire foreign grads ahead of our own grads. Instead of cancelling the fraud ridden EB-5 program, he gave it another extension, now we find out Jared Kushner's family real estate firm is actually actively selling that visa to more corrupt Chinese. Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin's catch and release program at the borders. And his first budget does not even include the Wall. He extended amnesty to DACA without even using it as a bargaining chip for the wall!

    His foreign policy is even worse. He bombed Syria without any real evidence on the gas attack, and is cozying up to Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest sponsor of Islamic terror, and Israel to make unnecessary enemies of Russia, Assad and Iran. Selling over $100m of our most sophisticated weapons to Saudi Arabia was the stupidest move ever. His daughter's "Women Entrepreneur Fund" is becoming the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, replacing the Clinton Foundation. Taking $40m donation from the Arabs, a country that doesn't even allow women to drive, is a joke.

    The Healthcare "fix" actually made things worse by removing the two best provisions of ObamaCare that was essential in keeping prices low - the individual mandate and the Cadillac tax. Without the individual mandate, we'll have to let people die on the streets. We need to decouple health insurance from employment and the Cadillac Tax at least is one step towards that direction.

    Bringing in Jared and Ivanka to the WH was a complete mistake. Nobody elected those two NY liberals, along with all the wall street liberals they brought in to dominate Trump's cabinet. This article is spot on, if Trump wants his support back, he needs to send Jared and Ivanka packing, and get his Nationalist agenda back on board ASAP.

    Breitbart reported that border agents are saying Trump is basically continuing with the Obama admin’s catch and release program at the borders.

    Sadly, it looks like this is true. I just heard an internet radio news report that, according to the president of the border patrol, ICE is essentially continuing the Obama era of “catch and release” just to a lesser degree.

    I could have sworn that Trump vowed to end this policy “on day one”. If ICE is taking it upon themselves to continue this policy then Trump needs to put a swift end to it.

    If Trump does nothing then he can count this deplorable out in 2020. I thought a vote for Trump would mean a sane and nationalistic immigration policy and that whites might just get their country back. So far, Trump’s off to a glacially slow start.

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  33. Open borders isn’t anarchism. It is imperialism. It means that the West can invade and bomb any nation, and it means non-whites can barge into any white nation. Globalism is imperialism, and it rules the world through Chaos Theory.

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  34. geokat62 says:
    @DaveE
    I don't even know who Trump's "base" is and I very much doubt he does, either.

    Like so many I know, I voted for Trump out of sheer revulsion for the reptile the Dems were offering. (I refuse to speak its name.) IMHO people like me are Trump's base.

    Most of us would just like ANY serious sign of loyalty to America over Israel and so far, Mr. Trump has given us NOTHING.

    Most of us would just like ANY serious sign of loyalty to America over Israel…

    You’ve hit the nail on the head. This is the core issue that needs to be repeated, over and over again.

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  35. @Macumazahn
    We'll never be rid of Obamacare. Once the State extends a new teat, the parasites instantly latch onto the fresh nipple, and once that happens, the teat can never be withdrawn.
    The fundamental problem is that society has decided that the indigent must be provided with medical care. America simply doesn't have the stomach to watch the poor die in the streets. Since health-care providers don't work for free (and hospitals don't build themselves) this means that the costs of caring for the destitute must be paid by the productive. This in turn means that the price of health care will be far higher than its actual value to the (paying) recipient. Hence no one is willing to pay for his own medical care, giving rise to the health insurance racket and, in the end, single-payer State-run health care.
    There's no way around it - either let the poor die, or endure State-run health care.

    The fundamental problem is that society has decided that the indigent must be provided with medical care.

    Not exactly.

    The fundamental problem is that the plutarchs have decided that the indigent can be used as an excuse to pick the pockets of the productive and to really make it cook by getting “government” (really an extortion racket) to do the picking on the the plutarchs’ behalf. The basics of the scam are as old as government and it’s surprising and depressing that the scam has to be continually explained.

    If there were no profits in the game, precious few would pretend to give a damn about health care for the indigent or anyone else.

    “The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.” ~ Albert Camus

    “There is no art which government sooner learns of another than that of draining money from the pockets of the people.” ~ Adam Smith

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  36. @Avery
    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }


    Nonsense.

    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
    India loses about 30%40% of the grain it produces to rats and other losses of effed up storage.

    About 30%-40% of the food produced in the world is lost/wasted due to storage inefficiency, loss to critters, and simple waste (thrown away).

    Here in the US about 30%-40% of the food produced is simply thrown away.
    For example, USDA mandates that fruits that do not meet some arbitrary standard of 'appearance' be thrown away.
    People buy tons of food, then let it rot - and then throw it away.
    Because it's so cheap.

    There is so much food produced in US, that retailers give you coupons to buy their food. The Market says there is more food than people to consume it.

    US has about 320 million people. Most of US is empty.
    I have driven coast-to-coast USA: outside of metropolitan centers, it's hours and hours of nothing.
    I live in California.
    I drive up 395 frequently. There is endless empty land outside of cities.

    Densely populated Japan has no population growth and is slowly shrinking.

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That's what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
    Is there anything more beautiful than a healthy giggling baby?
    Or a bunch of little kids running around in a park?
    No kids, No life.

    Now, I understand there is a disconnect between '1st world', which tries its best to care for the environment and, say, many African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don't know what the solution is.
    But I know that people in the '1st world' who are worried about so-called 'overpopulation' and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.

    Here in the US, we have more tree coverage than 100 years ago*.
    How did that happen?
    There is an obesity epidemic in US: people and children are getting fatter every year.
    Why? too much food and too much junk food.
    How can you have 320 million people and have too much food _and_ a planet that supposedly faces a so-called 'existential crisis'.
    Absurd.

    -----
    *
    [America has more trees now than it's had in 100 years. But we're not out of the woods yet.]
    http://www.upworthy.com/america-has-more-trees-now-than-its-had-in-100-years-but-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet

    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }

    Nonsense.
    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.

    China was so overcrowded that they had to enforce a one child per couple policy

    been to New Delhi lately?

    there’s a reason I posted that picture of the slave ship with humans packed in like sardines, because that’s what they have in mind of all of us. Living on top of each other in crowed cities, while they live on 500 acre ranches in Wyoming or estates in the British countryside.

    when people are packed in like sardines, the quality of life goes down Avery. It’s not just about how many people you can fit onto a ship or a planet, it’s about what kind of life they’re going to have. And as far as I’m concerned, the quality of life of the next generations of people who’ll come after us will be so blighted with congestion and controls and laws that they’ll curse us in our graves for our greed and short-sighted selfishness, as all the magnificent wild animals will all be extinct or in fenced in zoos, and the rain forests gone and the African savannas filled with asphalt and more human habitats as the rhinos and wildebeests and lions are replaced with domestic, bipedal farm animals/consumers/cannon fodder/tax slaves.

    It’s an unspeakable sin what we’re doing out of blind greed, with no appreciation for the other life forms that have been on this planet for millions upon millions of years. And with whom we are infinitely graced and uplifted by sharing the planet with.

    Just Fukushima alone has done unprecedented damage to the Pacific ocean. If we wiped out all the whales and dolphins and sea turtles and all the rest, would that count on your ledger for anything of consequence? So long as we humans could feast on Soilent Green and fill the oceans with artificial habitats for more cud-chewing zombies consuming and paying taxes and obsessing over Kim Kardashian’s ass?

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That’s what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.

    this is just silly

    we don’t need ‘population growth’ to have children. We can have millions and millions of children without encroaching on every last bastion of wild land on the planet.

    There seems to be some kind of imperative within the human animal to insist that we have to take over and dominate every last wild blade of grass or square foot of forest. What’s wrong with letting some wild, unspoiled places exist for their own sake? Why does everything on this planet have to be or exploited or used up for human consumption?

    African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don’t know what the solution is.

    education, empowerment of women, birth control

    the reason those people’s numbers are exploding is because their governments want them to. Just like the Catholic church or other institutions where more people = more money/power. As long as that’s the metric, we going to see places like Haiti over-populate until their lush islands are turned into mud and sludge. It’s the mindless paradigm of the leaders that more people mean more money/power. It’s also blind tribalism. Human assholes think that if they breed more Mexicans, and send them forth into the hinterlands, that they’ll be able to use them for tribal hegemony, which they do. But it’s the blind tribalism that has to be stopped by telling places like Mexico that N. America will no longer be their pressure valve release or dumping grounds. Because as long as Mexico or Africa or India or China- or anywhere else that they’ve mindlessly overpopulated, that they can no longer use other people’s lands to function as an overflow valve… because as long as they can do that, they will. It’s tribalism, and that is deeply hardwired into the human beast.

    But I know that people in the ’1st world’ who are worried about so-called ‘overpopulation’ and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.

    what was it you said, we can go to 50 billion?

    your mentality is like the slave ship owner. The more you pack in, the worse their lives are going to be.

    One more thing: the Planet is not facing an existential crises.


    The Earth will continue rotating about its axis and will continue rotating around the sun for the next 5 billion years or so.

    Really?

    You think when I say the planet is facing a crisis, that I mean the lifeless rock?

    whew, but I over estimate some people

    it’s all about the kind of planet we leave to the next generations Avery. Not the lifeless rock.

    it’s about living in Siberia without the knowledge that there are Siberian tigers left in the wild.

    or being on the ocean knowing that all the whales and sea turtles and dolphins and other magnificent life forms have all been wiped out.

    it’s about the quality of life and freedom and space to come and go and sharing this planet with the snow leopards and mountain gorillas and elephants and other fellow denizens of the miraculous place in a universe where we might just be the only one like it. And to destroy it to make room for 50 billion more zombies is such a sin as to be incomprehensible to me in it’s short sighted folly.

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    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Great comment!

    Another threat to the Church is the illegal immigration control movement. If this movement succeeds, and what is perceived by Latin Americans and other governments as an escape valve is shut off, these governments would logically say, “Our demographic course cannot continue.” These governments would have little choice but to confront the Church and say, “If we are to survive as governments, then we must get serious about population growth control. Otherwise, we in Latin America are destined to become a sea of chaos. We, as Latin Americans, must make family planning and abortion services fully available and encourage their use.” Turning off the valve to illegal immigration is therefore a serious threat to the power of the Church. – http://churchandstate.org.uk/2015/05/4-principal-sources-of-power-of-the-roman-catholic-church/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1623864

    Catholicism’s incredible growth story

    Critics keep announcing the Church’s imminent demise. If only they realised that numbers have doubled since 1970 – and are still rising
    [...]
    When we consider those African statistics alone, any suggestion of the Catholic Church “dying” or even stagnating is so wildly inaccurate as to be comical.
    – http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/september-9th-2016/catholicisms-incredible-growth-story/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/non-white-migrants-and-the-catholic-church/#comment-1870992

    Bush birth control policies helped fuel Africa’s baby boom

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24566695.html

    Opposition to birth control also comes from the Roman Catholic Church, the country’s largest
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832037

    I am more than a little bit surprised though, that you are defending the Catholic Church(!!!), even if only ever so very, very mildly. That puts you in the same camp as “Agenda 21” conspiracy theory nut-jobs like “Lord” Christopher Monckton et al. in my book: http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/over-population-another-non-problem/
    [...]
    Monckton is a liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Broderers, an Officer of the Order of St John of Jerusalem, a Knight of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and a member of the Roman Catholic Mass Media Commission.
    [...]
    Vatican responsibility for the torrent of disinformation on population and related issues. http://www.population-security.org/issue_r.htm
    [...]
    Then, along came Simon with his book, The Ultimate Resource, in 1981.275 Simon attempts to make the case that it is not possible to have overpopulation; that people are the ultimate resource, and the more the better. Simon is an economist. In this book, Simon intermingles fact with fantasy throughout and misrepresents his material as fact. It was one misrepresentation of reality after the other.
    [...]
    With propaganda machinery in place, the Vatican set out to create many wrong perceptions, serving to undermine the scientific consensus that world overpopulation is a grave problem for the U.S. These wrong perceptions and illusions, of course, serve as obstacles to a constructive response. Why? The constructive responses almost always include controls on population growth and immigration, threatening Vatican survival.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832398
  37. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Rurik (from another location)


    {the planet really is facing an existential crisis by way of human overpopulation, but they always carefully avoid mentioning that. }
     
    Nonsense.
    The earth can easily support far more people.
    By my calculation about 50+ billion.
    China has 1+ billion people: there are no starving people there.
    India, the same.
     
    China was so overcrowded that they had to enforce a one child per couple policy

    been to New Delhi lately?

    http://lghttp.60358.nexcesscdn.net/8046264/images/page/-/iStock_000001307820Small.jpg

    there's a reason I posted that picture of the slave ship with humans packed in like sardines, because that's what they have in mind of all of us. Living on top of each other in crowed cities, while they live on 500 acre ranches in Wyoming or estates in the British countryside.

    when people are packed in like sardines, the quality of life goes down Avery. It's not just about how many people you can fit onto a ship or a planet, it's about what kind of life they're going to have. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality of life of the next generations of people who'll come after us will be so blighted with congestion and controls and laws that they'll curse us in our graves for our greed and short-sighted selfishness, as all the magnificent wild animals will all be extinct or in fenced in zoos, and the rain forests gone and the African savannas filled with asphalt and more human habitats as the rhinos and wildebeests and lions are replaced with domestic, bipedal farm animals/consumers/cannon fodder/tax slaves.

    It's an unspeakable sin what we're doing out of blind greed, with no appreciation for the other life forms that have been on this planet for millions upon millions of years. And with whom we are infinitely graced and uplifted by sharing the planet with.

    Just Fukushima alone has done unprecedented damage to the Pacific ocean. If we wiped out all the whales and dolphins and sea turtles and all the rest, would that count on your ledger for anything of consequence? So long as we humans could feast on Soilent Green and fill the oceans with artificial habitats for more cud-chewing zombies consuming and paying taxes and obsessing over Kim Kardashian's ass?

    Have you ever visited a nursing home?
    That’s what the entire world will look like if there is no population growth.
     
    this is just silly

    we don't need 'population growth' to have children. We can have millions and millions of children without encroaching on every last bastion of wild land on the planet.

    There seems to be some kind of imperative within the human animal to insist that we have to take over and dominate every last wild blade of grass or square foot of forest. What's wrong with letting some wild, unspoiled places exist for their own sake? Why does everything on this planet have to be or exploited or used up for human consumption?

    African nations, where women have more children than they can possibly care for.
    And I don’t know what the solution is.
     
    education, empowerment of women, birth control

    the reason those people's numbers are exploding is because their governments want them to. Just like the Catholic church or other institutions where more people = more money/power. As long as that's the metric, we going to see places like Haiti over-populate until their lush islands are turned into mud and sludge. It's the mindless paradigm of the leaders that more people mean more money/power. It's also blind tribalism. Human assholes think that if they breed more Mexicans, and send them forth into the hinterlands, that they'll be able to use them for tribal hegemony, which they do. But it's the blind tribalism that has to be stopped by telling places like Mexico that N. America will no longer be their pressure valve release or dumping grounds. Because as long as Mexico or Africa or India or China- or anywhere else that they've mindlessly overpopulated, that they can no longer use other people's lands to function as an overflow valve... because as long as they can do that, they will. It's tribalism, and that is deeply hardwired into the human beast.

    But I know that people in the ’1st world’ who are worried about so-called ‘overpopulation’ and choose to have 1 child or no children are not solving anything.
     
    what was it you said, we can go to 50 billion?

    your mentality is like the slave ship owner. The more you pack in, the worse their lives are going to be.

    One more thing: the Planet is not facing an existential crises.
    ...
    ...
    The Earth will continue rotating about its axis and will continue rotating around the sun for the next 5 billion years or so.

     

    Really?

    You think when I say the planet is facing a crisis, that I mean the lifeless rock?

    whew, but I over estimate some people

    it's all about the kind of planet we leave to the next generations Avery. Not the lifeless rock.

    it's about living in Siberia without the knowledge that there are Siberian tigers left in the wild.

    or being on the ocean knowing that all the whales and sea turtles and dolphins and other magnificent life forms have all been wiped out.

    it's about the quality of life and freedom and space to come and go and sharing this planet with the snow leopards and mountain gorillas and elephants and other fellow denizens of the miraculous place in a universe where we might just be the only one like it. And to destroy it to make room for 50 billion more zombies is such a sin as to be incomprehensible to me in it's short sighted folly.

    Great comment!

    Another threat to the Church is the illegal immigration control movement. If this movement succeeds, and what is perceived by Latin Americans and other governments as an escape valve is shut off, these governments would logically say, “Our demographic course cannot continue.” These governments would have little choice but to confront the Church and say, “If we are to survive as governments, then we must get serious about population growth control. Otherwise, we in Latin America are destined to become a sea of chaos. We, as Latin Americans, must make family planning and abortion services fully available and encourage their use.” Turning off the valve to illegal immigration is therefore a serious threat to the power of the Church. – http://churchandstate.org.uk/2015/05/4-principal-sources-of-power-of-the-roman-catholic-church/

    http://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1623864

    Catholicism’s incredible growth story

    Critics keep announcing the Church’s imminent demise. If only they realised that numbers have doubled since 1970 – and are still rising
    [...]
    When we consider those African statistics alone, any suggestion of the Catholic Church “dying” or even stagnating is so wildly inaccurate as to be comical.
    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/september-9th-2016/catholicisms-incredible-growth-story/

    http://www.unz.com/article/non-white-migrants-and-the-catholic-church/#comment-1870992

    Bush birth control policies helped fuel Africa’s baby boom

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24566695.html

    Opposition to birth control also comes from the Roman Catholic Church, the country’s largest

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832037

    I am more than a little bit surprised though, that you are defending the Catholic Church(!!!), even if only ever so very, very mildly. That puts you in the same camp as “Agenda 21” conspiracy theory nut-jobs like “Lord” Christopher Monckton et al. in my book: http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/over-population-another-non-problem/
    [...]
    Monckton is a liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Broderers, an Officer of the Order of St John of Jerusalem, a Knight of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and a member of the Roman Catholic Mass Media Commission.
    [...]
    Vatican responsibility for the torrent of disinformation on population and related issues. http://www.population-security.org/issue_r.htm
    [...]
    Then, along came Simon with his book, The Ultimate Resource, in 1981.275 Simon attempts to make the case that it is not possible to have overpopulation; that people are the ultimate resource, and the more the better. Simon is an economist. In this book, Simon intermingles fact with fantasy throughout and misrepresents his material as fact. It was one misrepresentation of reality after the other.
    [...]
    With propaganda machinery in place, the Vatican set out to create many wrong perceptions, serving to undermine the scientific consensus that world overpopulation is a grave problem for the U.S. These wrong perceptions and illusions, of course, serve as obstacles to a constructive response. Why? The constructive responses almost always include controls on population growth and immigration, threatening Vatican survival.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832398

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    some great links there FKA Max

    “Lord” Christopher Monckton sure is an execrable butthole eh?

    it's one thing to sell out a family member or business partner or even your whole nation or religion for a few shekels more

    but to sell out all future life on the planet, wow

    some buttholes I guess are pretty large indeed

    https://chemtrailsnorthnz.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/dsc06992.jpg

    what is it about the British aristocracy that seems to suggest inbreeding leads to congenial pedophilia and walking moral revulsions?

  38. Sowhat says:
    @Mark Green
    Trump's getting his mojo back. His rejection in Paris of the environmental accord that would have imposed more taxes on fossil fuels along with additional restrictions on coal and gas was an invigorating display of leadership.

    Incredibly, countless conservationists (myself included) see the 'climate change' movement as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    Indeed, the evidence for any significant amount of human-caused global warming has been exaggerated, if not concocted altogether. As every paleo-climatologist knows, our planet's climate has been swinging wildly (due to natural forces) from time immemorial. 'Climate change' is natural. The last Ice Age ended only 12,000 years ago. And these glacial periods come and go regularly. There have been eight 'glacials' in the past 1,000,000 years alone.

    On the other hand, 50 million years ago, giant crocodiles swam in the Arctic ocean. Enormous palms were commonplace as far north as Alaska. Our entire planet was much warmer than today and totally free of ice and permafrost. Surprised?

    These climate cycles are normal and natural. Thus, climate change is normal and natural.

    As for anthropogenic global warming, a slight warming of our atmosphere and a modest uptick in atmospheric CO2 (approaching historic averages) could be a very good thing for most plants and animals. No one knows what the 'ideal' climate/temperature for our planet should be. And it's impossible to say. Watch this respected environmentalist, Patrick Moore, explain why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Smhn1gL6Xg&t=382s

    Nice to read a bit of critica thought.

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  39. Svigor says:

    Mark Green says:
    June 3, 2017 at 4:34 am GMT • 200 Words

    All true, which is precisely why Climate Alarmists love talking about a rise in sea levels, and the damage that will do to real estate. Yeah, I just got off the phone with Gaia, she said she doesn’t give a shit.

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  40. Rurik says:
    @FKA Max
    Great comment!

    Another threat to the Church is the illegal immigration control movement. If this movement succeeds, and what is perceived by Latin Americans and other governments as an escape valve is shut off, these governments would logically say, “Our demographic course cannot continue.” These governments would have little choice but to confront the Church and say, “If we are to survive as governments, then we must get serious about population growth control. Otherwise, we in Latin America are destined to become a sea of chaos. We, as Latin Americans, must make family planning and abortion services fully available and encourage their use.” Turning off the valve to illegal immigration is therefore a serious threat to the power of the Church. – http://churchandstate.org.uk/2015/05/4-principal-sources-of-power-of-the-roman-catholic-church/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1623864

    Catholicism’s incredible growth story

    Critics keep announcing the Church’s imminent demise. If only they realised that numbers have doubled since 1970 – and are still rising
    [...]
    When we consider those African statistics alone, any suggestion of the Catholic Church “dying” or even stagnating is so wildly inaccurate as to be comical.
    – http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/september-9th-2016/catholicisms-incredible-growth-story/
     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/non-white-migrants-and-the-catholic-church/#comment-1870992

    Bush birth control policies helped fuel Africa’s baby boom

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24566695.html

    Opposition to birth control also comes from the Roman Catholic Church, the country’s largest
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832037

    I am more than a little bit surprised though, that you are defending the Catholic Church(!!!), even if only ever so very, very mildly. That puts you in the same camp as “Agenda 21” conspiracy theory nut-jobs like “Lord” Christopher Monckton et al. in my book: http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/over-population-another-non-problem/
    [...]
    Monckton is a liveryman of the Worshipful Company of Broderers, an Officer of the Order of St John of Jerusalem, a Knight of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and a member of the Roman Catholic Mass Media Commission.
    [...]
    Vatican responsibility for the torrent of disinformation on population and related issues. http://www.population-security.org/issue_r.htm
    [...]
    Then, along came Simon with his book, The Ultimate Resource, in 1981.275 Simon attempts to make the case that it is not possible to have overpopulation; that people are the ultimate resource, and the more the better. Simon is an economist. In this book, Simon intermingles fact with fantasy throughout and misrepresents his material as fact. It was one misrepresentation of reality after the other.
    [...]
    With propaganda machinery in place, the Vatican set out to create many wrong perceptions, serving to undermine the scientific consensus that world overpopulation is a grave problem for the U.S. These wrong perceptions and illusions, of course, serve as obstacles to a constructive response. Why? The constructive responses almost always include controls on population growth and immigration, threatening Vatican survival.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1832398

    some great links there FKA Max

    “Lord” Christopher Monckton sure is an execrable butthole eh?

    it’s one thing to sell out a family member or business partner or even your whole nation or religion for a few shekels more

    but to sell out all future life on the planet, wow

    some buttholes I guess are pretty large indeed

    what is it about the British aristocracy that seems to suggest inbreeding leads to congenial pedophilia and walking moral revulsions?

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  41. Caterina says:

    There is no “Russia Crisis”. This is a fictional story line ginned up by Leftist media in the wake of Hillary losing the election. Continuing to push this garbage, bereft of any evidence after eight months, is going to sink anyone who’s touched it.
    These LIES need to end, as more and more Leftists are starting to realize and vocalize.

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  42. polistra says:

    It’s too late. When you’re up against bullies of any scale, violence isn’t always needed, but ABSOLUTE FIRMNESS is imperative. You have to HOLD YOUR GROUND without the slightest indication of yielding. Bullies will fall back when faced with a truly immovable object.

    The Trump team totally surrendered after the first two months, allowing the Deepstate bulldozer to take all of the territory.

    PM May in Britain seems to understand the IMMOVABLE thing. Dealing with internal Remainers and external EU monsters, she doesn’t always push forward, but she NEVER gives ground.

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  43. What about the tension between Jeff Sessions and Trump? Fake news?

    The reported criticism of Sessions is that he shouldn’t have recused himself and shouldn’t have rewritten the travel ban to try to please the courts. Whatever one thinks of Sessions, his commitment to migration restriction is unassailable. My interpretation is that Trump, unlike Sessions, wouldn’t mind an actual terrorist attack he could blame on the judiciary.

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  44. Flint says:

    Mexico was (and is) meddling in USA election 10 times more intensively than Russia, they made huge campaigns to support Hillary. Why dont the media write on that? Mexico has already 25 million occupying USA land, Russia is not trying to invade USA. Russia is not sending their peasants to US, Russia is not getting USA money, like Mexico. Russia does not claim that California belongs to Russia. Russia is not helping Central Americans to invade US, like Mexico. The enemy is not Russia but Mexico. But the media and Holywood are very happy with Mexican invasion. The media should be writing articles about why Hillary and Obama provoked Mexican invasion.

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