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Last year’s midterm election results were hardly unusual for a party holding the presidency. Similar electoral setbacks had occurred during the presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But this one was portrayed as if it were somehow unique — an explicit rejection of President Trump’s nationalist and anti-immigration policies.

For some, the electoral losses in Orange County, California were particularly galling. “You want to see the future? Look no further than the demographic death spiral in the place once considered a cornerstone of the party,” wrote one GOP strategist.

In a state that had once launched the careers of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, Republicans had fought the rising tide of demographic change and were crushed, they said. Now the GOP was repeating the same mistake on the national stage.

Such arguments are not new. They have long been a staple of establishment Republicans who support the corporate open borders agenda. They also represent a fundamental misunderstanding what is happening in the American Southwest.

California, New Mexico, and the region’s other states are not trending left solely (or even primarily) because of Republican intransigence on immigration. They are trending left because of larger socioeconomic trends and migratory patterns that may lead to America’s eventual dissolution.

The Southwest Paradox

For any close observer of race relations, the politics of California and the Southwest must be puzzling. Extensive research on the 2016 election found close links between White attitudes toward race and immigration and support for Donald Trump. Other research has found a similar link between these attitudes and greater awareness of demographic change, with close physical proximity to Latinos playing an important contributing role.

Given the breadth of this evidence, recent general election results in America’s Southwest seem incomprehensible. These states — defined for our purposes as including California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas — all have large and growing Latino populations, but their White populations have responded not by shifting right, but to the left.

Some observers, such as Ron Unz of The Unz Review, have noted this unexpected trend in race relations and concluded that those who argue that increased diversity will eventually tear the country apart are simply wrong. According to Unz, the Dissident Right has erred by treating White-Latino relations as if they are the same as White-Black relations. There is ample evidence that proximity to Blacks has produced a significant backlash among Whites in places like the old South, but there appears to be less evidence of a similar backlash to Latinos. Unz attributes this difference, at least in part, to lower Latino crime rates and greater mutual understanding once Whites get to know their Latino neighbors better.

“With such a large fraction of our immigrant population living in states displaying such negligible levels of nativist rancor,” he wrote, “the likelihood that today’s immigration controversy at the national level will produce any long-lasting negative consequences seems very low to me.”

Is Unz right? Will America’s Latino population simply follow in the footsteps of previous generations of immigrants by assimilating and contributing to America’s culture and growth? Are the Dissident Right’s fears irrational and unfounded, as the left and corporate elite keep assuring us?

The answer is no. The extensive research on this subject is not wrong. The Southwest Paradox is merely an artifact of larger socioeconomic forces.

Solving the Paradox

To understand why, first consider a related paradox. If one were to closely examine White voting patterns across the United States, it would be natural to assume — consistent with the experimental research — that Whites who live in highly diverse neighborhoods would be more likely to react negatively and become more conservative. But this is not true. Whites who live in diverse neighborhoods are not more conservative than other Whites, they are usually more liberal. The primary reason for this is uncomplicated: White flight.

The research on White flight has shown a common recurring pattern. When minorities first move into a White neighborhood, the reaction among Whites is only mildly negative at first, but after diversity rises above a certain tipping point — believed to be around 25 percent for Latinos — White flight begins in earnest. In general, the Whites who move first are the most ethnocentric and/or most likely to be adversely affected (often families with children). Their departure causes the neighborhood to become less White, which in turn causes more Whites to leave (and others to avoid moving in). This process produces a cascading effect that usually transforms the neighborhood within a few years.

After this process has played out, such neighborhoods will often retain a small White population, but it is usually one that is more tolerant of diversity or more able to protect itself through higher housing prices, gated communities, and private schools. The pattern is similar for Whites in gentrifying urban neighborhoods. In each case, the demographic profile of such Whites is fairly consistent — they tend to be disproportionately liberal, single, and childless. Depending on the neighborhood, they often have higher incomes and are more likely to have a college degree. These are the Whites who are responsible for the seemingly paradoxical result of Whites living in more diverse neighborhoods being more liberal.

The political effects of White flight and gentrification are reasonably well understood, but it is becoming increasingly clear that interstate migration is playing a similar role. This phenomenon was first noted in the popular press by Bill Bishop, author of an influential book on the subject called The Big Sort, which attributed much the nation’s growing political divide to differences in where we choose to live. Although Bishop’s methodology was criticized, his conclusions were substantially confirmed by other academic research. The only real disagreements were not over whether it was happening, but why.

Some, like Richard Florida, have focused on the migratory patterns of college-educated Whites — specifically what he calls the “creative class” — who are disproportionately moving to a select number of cosmopolitan regions and states for economic reasons. Others have cited the departure of more conservative working-class Whites from these same areas, often because of rising costs of living. Still others have highlighted more explicitly political reasons or other lifestyle choices that produce the same net effect.

Whatever the reasons (probably a combination of the above), the resulting demographics look a lot like those produced by White flight. Just like the Whites who live in more diverse neighborhoods, the Whites who live in more cosmopolitan cities and states tend to be more liberal, better educated, less religious, and disproportionately unmarried and childless. Nearly every state in America’s Southwest exhibits these same traits.

These demographic changes have helped nudge southwestern states to the left, but the trend has also been reinforced by another recent political development. The “Great Awokening,” a sharp left turn in the racial attitudes of college-educated White liberals over the past few years, has further accelerated the leftward drift of Whites living in the nation’s more cosmopolitan regions.

Given this increase in White wokeness, a final contributor is noteworthy for its implied hypocrisy. Despite the Southwest’s purported reputation for benign White-Latino relations, these states rank among the most segregated in the country. Racial segregation is growing not just in more conservative places like suburban Dallas, but also liberal cities like Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay Area. According to a study by UCLA’s Civil Rights Project, the two states where Latinos are least likely to attend a majority White public school are liberal New Mexico and California respectively.

The Impact of Latinos on White Voting

Taken together, these trends suggest that the liberalism of America’s Southwest is not due to more amicable relations between its White and Latino populations. Instead, they are the accidental byproduct of larger social factors that have offset and concealed the negative effects.

To confirm this hypothesis, we turn to a large, publicly available survey data set housed at Harvard called the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES). This survey was administered to over 60,000 individuals in 2016, over half of whom voted and were White. Each survey respondent was also geo-coded, which allows the incorporation of state, county, and local (zip code) variables such as local levels of diversity and other demographics from the Census Bureau.

The full multivariate regression results can be found at the bottom of this article, but the top-line results are straightforward. In general, after controlling for a wide variety of other factors such as gender, marriage, religion, and education, the analysis finds that Whites who live in more diverse states were more likely to vote for Donald Trump, with proximity to Latinos having roughly half the impact of proximity to Blacks. (The effects of living close to Asians and Native Americans were statistically insignificant).

These effects are not uniform, however. As suggested by similar studies, Whites who live in heavily diverse zip codes (Black or Latino) tend to be more liberal and were thus more likely to vote against Trump. By contrast, Whites who lived outside of heavily Latino neighborhoods, either elsewhere in the same county or the same state, were more conservative and more likely to vote for Trump. These results demonstrate the variable effects of White flight.

Altogether, the combined effects — state, county, and zip code — shifted the White vote toward Trump by about one percent for every 6 percentage points of Latinos in a state’s population. In California, for example, where Latinos comprised 38% of the population in 2016, the model estimates that White Californians shifted right by about 6 percent from where they otherwise would have been based on their education and other demographic factors.

Importantly, however, these are average effects. A more detailed state-level analysis shows that in the Whitest states there were no county or state-level effects. The impact was strictly local, with growing local Latino populations causing Whites to become more conservative, a common pre-White flight result.

At the other end of the demographic spectrum in heavily Latino states, state level pro-Trump effects do not appear until a state’s Latino population approaches 20 percent. They peak at 30 percent (Arizona), and begin to decline after that (Texas, California, and New Mexico). This suggests that states with the largest Latino populations are starting to experience the same liberalizing White flight effects that are found in the nation’s most diverse zip codes.

The analysis also sheds light on why the politics of America’s Southwest are so different from the similarly diverse South. Whites in the South are conservative in part because of the presence of large Black populations, but they are also more conservative because their White populations are much more religiously conservative.

The migration patterns that helped make California and the Southwest more liberal are also having the reverse effect in the South. States like Alabama and Mississippi draw relatively few college-educated White liberals from elsewhere in the country. Unsurprisingly, the few exceptions to this rule (places like Atlanta or North Carolina’s Research Triangle) have politics that more closely resemble the Southwest.

Two Americas

If our analysis stopped here, the conclusions would be only mildly interesting. Yes, the seemingly benign White-Latino race relations in the Southwest are largely illusory, the incidental byproduct of larger interstate migration patterns, but so what? The politics of these states are still trending left, no matter what the cause. How does this change the conclusion that Trumpism is a losing political proposition in the long run?

The answer can be found by stepping back from a narrow examination of trends in the Southwest and instead looking at the nation as a whole. The Whites who flee or avoid moving to these states have not disappeared into the ether. They have simply chosen to live elsewhere and, in the process, made the rest of the nation more conservative.

The following map shows White voting trends from 2000 to 2016, two comparable election years when the GOP won the presidency but narrowly lost the popular vote. As expected, the map shows Whites in the Southwest and on the West Coast trending left over this period. But it also shows Whites in much of the rest of the country shifting to the right. This rightward trend includes the midwestern states that helped elect Donald Trump. It also shows a substantial rightward shift even in the liberal Northeast, where Whites in states like New Jersey, New York, and much of New England have also been moving sharply to the right.

This is a story that one almost never hears from the mainstream media. There are countless articles concern trolling the GOP for its losses in more diverse states like California, but there is almost nothing written about the rightward drift of the rest of White America.

These trends are two sides of the same coin and they point to a very different conclusion. This is not the story of Republicans or the Dissident Right waging a losing demographic battle. It is the story of a nation that is slowly, but inexorably, becoming more divided along racial and geographic lines. (See The Racial Realignment of American Politics).

To anyone even vaguely familiar with the larger literature on ethnic conflict, this pattern is completely predictable. The fact that there is not even a hint of the dangers in the mainstream media despite obvious lessons from conflicts in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, and Darfur only demonstrates the establishment’s control over the media narrative. The warning lights are flashing red all around us — and we are flying directly into the coming storm.

Patrick McDermott is a political analyst in Washington, DC.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Ron Unz says:

    I’m afraid that I’m not at all persuaded by these arguments, and firmly stand by my previous conclusions on this analytical question. Over the last quarter-century I’ve published something like 400,000 words on the contentious topics of race, ethnicity, and social policy, a total that few others can match, and since I think most of my predictions have been borne out, I have a great deal of confidence in my framework. For those so interested, here’s a convenient collection of my most substantial articles:

    http://www.unz.com/page/race-ethnicity-articles/

    In particular, I discussed white voting behavior extensively in this 2011 article:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    Note that in the quantitative results presented at the end of this Patrick McDermott article, the correlation coefficient between 2016 white support for Trump and the percentage of the Latino population whether at state, county, or zip code levels is essentially nil. This was exactly the same result I found for white voting behavior in the 1992-2008 presidential elections in my 2011 article:

    For the sake of simplicity and to minimize the confounding impact of local political issues and personalities, the easiest output variable to examine would be the percentage of the white vote that supported the Republican presidential ticket over the last 20 years. On a population-weighted basis, the correlation results for elections from 1992 through 2008 across the 50 states are as shown in the chart below.

    The results seem conclusive. The correlations between the Hispanic percentage of each state and white voter preferences are approximately zero for all presidential elections, implying that the presence of large Hispanic populations appears to have virtually no impact upon white political alignment, either one way or the other.

    Obviously, one can always come up with very complex and intricate arguments, involving various socio-economic/demographic/ideological shifts, to make 2+2 seem different than 4, but I tend to doubt such conclusions.

    As a reality-check, here’s another excerpt from my 2011 article regarding the fate of California Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner, who decided to run in the 2010 Republican gubernatorial primary as an immigration hard-liner:

    Outmatched financially, Poizner was forced to refocus on right-wing primary voters, and as a highly opportunistic fellow, he decided to ride the national tidal wave of anti-immigration fears then sweeping across the country and make it the centerpiece of his campaign, eventually spending $25 million of his own money on the effort.

    The result was that he lost the primary by 40 points. When you run as an immigration hard-liner, spend $25 million on your race, and lose by 40 points among the hard-core conservatives who dominate Republican primaries, you’re clearly selling the dog food that dogs just won’t eat. These days, anti-immigration candidacies in California possess about as much resonance as anti-papist candidacies in Massachusetts.

  2. Americano says:

    The Cal Tech 2018 entering class profile (by race) was as follows:

    Asians: 40%, Blacks: 1%, Hispanics: 14%, Whites: 27%, etc.

    Note: Since a large number of third generation Hispanics self-identify as “White-Only,” it is clear that the Hispanics % is probably much higher.

    But I am sure that Richwine, Sailer, and McDermott (three clowns that were bitch-slapped by Hispanics guys as kids) will figure out a way to either dismiss this fact or show that these students are not really Hispanics but Jews, Martians or something else.

    Sailer is an expert at this: some years ago he dismissed the potential of Mexican filmakers by underscoring that Lubezki was not a Mexican surname. Now, with the success of Cuaron, Del Toro, and González Iñárritu, he will probably classify them as “White” or “Elites” or some other shit, to eschew acknowledging that anything good can come out of Mexico or Spanish America.

    Even Manuel Delanda–undoubtedly the greatest living philosopher–would somehow become non-Mexican in Sailer’s little mind.

    You guys need to get over this anti-Hispanic fever! I wish I could apologize for what those cholos did to you guys as kids.

  3. In his book Alienated America, Tim Carney examined areas where people voted for Trump in the 2016 primaries over other GOP candidates, i.e. his core supporters, and found that they overwhelmingly came from two places:

    1) Rural and poor counties with low community ties, i.e. low church attendance, and

    2) Urban/suburban areas with high immigration

    Carney believes that these people voted for Trump because they bought his msg that the American dream is dead. Which is odd as it would only address the first group. The supine cuckservative that he is, he argued at the beginning of the book that immigration wasn’t the main reason why people voted for Trump because it actually helped our economy, but then contradicted himself later in the book when he presented this data. He then begrudgingly acknowledged that perhaps people in group #2 find it hard to socialize with their foreign neighbors.

    The media would like us to think Trump’s core supporters are all from the first group, ignoring the fact that Trump got 56% of votes from college educated white males and 49% college educated white females.

    The reason the second group is a surprise to many is because they get drowned out by the much louder, larger group of liberals they often live amongst. We know we are in the minority as early Trump supporters, and we keep a low profile due to the vicious unhinged liberals all around us. But make no mistake, group #2 exist and immigration is the top reason. We’re as sick of the Chindian H1b’s as we are of the Muslims and Mexicans, we’re sick of living in United F’ing Nations.

    • Replies: @Ghan-buri-Ghan
  4. Man Texas is going to be the big tipping point. The funny thing is there is a Demo group called battle ground Texas and that just may be what they get. The psychology of white Texas southens is very different I don’t think its going to go down quietly if they lose an election. I mean white southerners have “changed” the results of elections they don’t like in the past ala the great redemption. I don’t think guys like Unz take this into account when they think of a place like Texas.

    • Agree: Counterinsurgency
    • Replies: @Thomm
  5. @Far Side of the Moon

    You sound as if you are both a Trump supporter and hold anti-immigration views, correct?

    Trump has made it explicitly clear multiple times that he wants more immigration into the United States than at any other time in history. So I don’t really understand your position.

  6. JoannF says:
    @Americano

    As a German living in Portugal and Spain, I can assure everybody here that Europeans would be very glad to take in Latin Americans, as opposed to Africans and other Muslims… I’m serious, you are invited.
    I think the problem with Latino immigration in the US is mostly that they vote for the Dems, and the Dems have turned into virulent Marxists by now. Then of course, there’s all the cartel stories…
    It’s hardly that they can be noisy, stay up late and have risky driving attitudes – so do I.

    There’s the argument that it’s not a sign of high intelligence if immigrants keep voting for increased immigration, which will eventually destroy the benefits they reap from migrating to a country of higher overall income – film-making success hardly being a measure for future competitive abilities of a nation.
    People of Mexican origin should go back in history and remember the Alamo, which was a tragic phase in the development of the fledgling Mexican Republic, which was unable to “integrate” the bastard ingrates.

    It followed a policy of tolerance towards immigration. Read up on it, it’s really worthwhile.
    Really modern.

  7. M Krauthammar [AKA "Laura McGrath"] says:

    My husband is black and I am white.
    Our mixed babies are the future of this country. Never try to touch the hair of black people. You will repent.
    Snug white people who have always considered Britain as their private preserve are an endangered species. The demographic trends cannot be denied. In a few years white folks will become a minority in this country. So enjoy it while you can, Bubba, your days of driving the bus are numbered.
    Jared Taylor has been banned from Europe. That is great. White people deserve to go extinct. Our planet’s future depends on it
    A black person from Angola can go and visit his White Baby Mama in Germany but this so called Huwhite Nationalist can’t even enter Britain.
    Most white people are old and dying off
    White birth rates are low
    White girls are increasingly having Children of Color with Men of Color
    Open borders immigration is about to be a reality
    Darn it feels good to be a progressive.

  8. @JoannF

    I’ve read that there are large numbers of Brazilians moving to Portugal as a result of opposition to Bolsonaro. How’s that working out? (Genuine question–my wife and I are contemplating a move to northern Portugal or Galicia in Spain.)

    I’m not sure Europeans would be particularly thrilled with Central American immigrants. These are some of the most violent cultures on earth. There’s a reason Mexico either blocks their entry entirely or passes them up to the U.S. as quickly as possible.

    • Replies: @JoannF
    , @PorkTastic
    , @Anon
  9. My take on the underlying article is that unless and until white people develop some sense of racial consciousness, they’ll just keep on “white flighting” until they run out of space and are overwhelmed by other racial groups.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  10. Ron Unz says:
    @Americano

    But I am sure that Richwine…will figure out a way to either dismiss this fact

    http://www.unz.com/runz/raceiq-the-jason-richwine-affair/

  11. JoannF says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Hadn’t heard about that at all… we’re living in the countryside, it’s a quiet life for everybody, very closed up, you only see the locals and we’re not TV addicts. Il” look for info these next days, but let me guess that this grapevine information is as factual as the “many Americans will leave the US for Canad if Trump gets elected” in 2016. Nobody went, and Canada is really not an ocean away… Portugal is a small country, people’s mentality is that of Mediterranean Swiss. You do meet foreigners in Lisbon and at tourist spots, many will be selling drugs (most of which will be fake), that sort of thing. All in all, the country is still very safe, and most Blacks are either Angolans or Brazilians (but nt the sort who would leave for Bolsonaro – those would likely be Whites). Almost no Muslim refugees as far as I can tell, there are a few in the next tow, and they seem to be very lost, not enough to riot. The atmosphere is just not right, and the population isn’t interested in them.
    As to Latinoamericanos in Spain, they exist in all shades – very bourgeois ones and a few criminal ones, mostly drugs and tourist trap business, stealing stuff on the motorways in summer, etc. Not overly many, and you easily recognize most, they do look different 😉
    These are people who WILL integrate eventually, which is not the case with Muslims and African Blacks – earlier Blacks die integrate but they were colonials who had worled for the colonial powers, Christians.
    Madonna is here or is she already gone again ? People are hating her guts ;))

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  12. @M Krauthammar

    Tiny Duck is known by many names…

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  13. Adolf says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Wow. The future of the Turd World. Fat white chicks rutting with subhuman bucks. The mudshark has spoken!.. Now cumming to a fetish site near you. Why not move to Zimbabwe; have all the low IQ cow-f***king chilluns you want? At least until Ebola or whatever other fecal-borne disease wipes out you and yours. No matter, there will be plenty of others. Always will be. Just like the insects and jackals, the circle of life includes mud-loving white trash

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  14. @Ron Unz

    Sounds like a Republican base in California that knows it will lose in the general election and that depends on H1-B visas in the Silicon Valley and on Mexican labor in the San Joaquin Valley. In 2011, the base that voted for Prop 187 had evacuated the state by the million or had died off. Your analysis of low Hispanic crime rates is odd too, Ron, as a glance at the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report or the DoJ’s Crime Victimization Survey will show.

    • Replies: @KenH
  15. @Diversity Heretic

    I think you haven’t come across the really dangerous central American ones. These are folks that have been so violent that they’ve driven out American blacks from quite a few places in the US. Think MS13. Be careful what you wish for

  16. @JoannF

    Many thanks for your reply. Your comment on Texas independence from Mexico is quite apt. I make only two points in response. First, Mexico had first gained independence from Spain around 1821. Once independence and secession are “in the air” they may be difficult to control and limit. And the Mexican government was far from stable. Second, Mexico invited Americans to settle there to obtain protection from the Commanche Indians, who were very aggressive, ruthless and highly skilled in the art of plains warfare. The Americans helped with the protection, but it came at a price.

    Nevertheless, your point is a good one–consider the long-term consequences of settling certain people that you are inviting into your territory. Inviting a largely Protestant group into a Catholic country, for example, should have raised a red flag in the Mexican leadership.

    I recently read that Ralph Waldo Emerson, in commenting on the results of the Mexican War (1846-1848), said that “Mexico is the arsenic that will poison America.” Although he was referring specifically to the issue of the spread of slavery into the new territories acquired by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, he might even have seen a more distant result.

  17. @PorkTastic

    I think you may have misinterpreted my comment. My fervent wish is that Central Americans stay put. They were moving into northern Virginia about the time my family moved away and I don’t think that the situation has improved.

    • Replies: @PorkTastic
  18. @PorkTastic

    “I think you haven’t come across the really dangerous central American ones. ”

    I think he knows. Reread his comment. BTW, you’re right. Southside Richmond, Va is an example.

  19. Hibernian says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Tiny Duck masquerading as a woman named Laura.

  20. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron Unz’s work is responsible for altering my thinking (and turned me from pessimist to optimist) on the subject of Hispanic crime/IQ. I can recall reading his original article in a print magazine version of TAC.

    Btw, speaking of white-Latino relations…

  21. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    I hope we see a reply.

    In the meantime, your observation underscores the futility of politics — except as a tool of the Establishment. Readers of TUR were warned, most memorably in a June 2016 article by Linh Dinh that predicted both Mr. Trump’s election and its meaningless:

    “In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

    A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.”

    Linh Dinh, “Orlando Shooting Means Trump for President,” The Unz Review, June 12, 2016.

    But those who were skeptical starting back in 2015 were dismissed as “shills for Jeb,” then for Hillary.

    It’s now September 2019 and, as you illustrate, President Trump has disappointed his supporters, as many of them around here admit. How, then, can such an apparently insightful author as Mr. McDermott still write 2,300 words that delve into people’s beliefs without mentioning their increasing disaffection with politics, or at least that many more might have voted for Mr. Trump in 2016 and would in 2020 had he been credible and consistent on the issue deemed most important in the last Most Important Election Ever?

    • Agree: Ghan-buri-Ghan
  22. @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    Trump has made it explicitly clear multiple times that he wants more immigration into the United States than at any other time in history.

    And he never gets what he wants. So that’s good.

  23. Last year’s midterm election results

    There were no midterm elections in 2018, unless you count the Class 2 interim races in Minnesota and Mississippi.

    By definition, a midterm election in the House could only happen in an odd-numbered year.

    What 2018 saw were end-of-term elections.

    Whites in the South are conservative in part because of the presence of large Black populations

    White politics in the South has always been directed against other whites. They hated the Republicans so much they were happy to elect leftist authoritarians like Wilson and FDR. When Democrats stabbed them in the back in the 1960s, they turned on them as any abused yellow dog would.

    The whites [sic; I refuse to use wigger orthography, and Latino isn’t even English] in the West just want Pedro to mow the lawn for pennies. They don’t want him living there.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  24. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that “midterm” was in reference to the presidency. Isn’t that a concise, widely used, well understood … term?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  25. dearieme says:
    @Anonymous

    But what about White-Latino-Straws relations?

  26. KenH says:
    @Eric Novak

    Your analysis of low Hispanic crime rates is odd too, Ron, as a glance at the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report or the DoJ’s Crime Victimization Survey will show.

    As I recall Unz “age adjusted” the Hispanic crime rates which essentially expunged the most violent crime prone age brackets in the Hispanic population. He also compared outlier Hispanic majority cities with low violent crime (and few blacks), like El Paso, TX, to majority white cities (like Indianapolis and Columbus, OH) that also have black violent crime problems to show relative parity in violent crime rates between white majority cities and Hispanic majority cities.

    • LOL: Ron Unz
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    , @bomag
    , @Pop Warner
  27. KenH says:

    I’d say I mostly agree with McDermott’s analysis. It’s not a coincidence that Republican politicians who promise to deal effectively with the illegal alien invasion and lower legal immigration become overnight rock stars among the base and reasonable Democrats but hated and despised by the corrupt donor class, yellow journos and the judenpresse. Proposition 187 briefly resuscitated governor Pete Wilson’s flagging political career.

    On immigration, Donald Trump campaigned far to the right of how he’s currently governing. Had he descended those stairs at Trump tower in 2015 to announce he was running to achieve the highest numbers of legal and illegal immigrants in U.S. history and to lower black, hispanic, female, tranny and pedophile unemployment to historic lows the base would have immediately kicked him to the curb and we’d be watching him on reality TV while Hildabeast would be cackling in the oval office.

    Not sure what he’s going to run on in 2020. I guess he’ll run against socialism and white supremacy and for universal background checks and banning flash suppressors, but I digress.

    • Agree: mark green
  28. I did a quickie read and failed to spot (among all the percentages cited) a mention of voter eligibility, actual registration, actual turnout–all presumably solid available statistics and election fraud–real, but considerably speculative as to actual numbers– as they relate to the polities and demographic groups under review by author.

  29. @Anonymous

    She must be a real “Huwhite Hispanic” and her surname probably ain’t Zimmerman.

    Psst, psst, cuñado–¡Que criolla mas rica!

  30. Author is, mostly, correct. Anyway, to me the whole affair seems all too predictable & pointless: multiracial or multiethnic societies inevitably fall apart if there is no clearly dominant majority, Switzerland being the only exception (Swiss Germans comprise 75%, French 15%, Italians 10% roughly. But, this country has been around for close to 700 years & its peoples have their own nation-states).

    When you get a country where no people/race/language/culture is clearly dominant- then, you’ll get dissolution, violent or not (USSR, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia,…) or an uneasy coexistence for some time in different cultural or historical settings (Brazil, Singapore, South Africa ..) or permanent semi-frozen conflict (Northern Ireland, Israel, Sri Lanka, …).

    So, such counties inevitably collapse in blood, or simply return to savage dystopia.

    The only way to keep a country more or less functional & both democratic is consociationalism or power-sharing among various groups. Then, it doesn’t matter- in principle- who is demographic majority or minority, because power elites of these groups have reached a consensus which is basically a harmony of parallel societies that live one alongside another, without intention to subdue “the other” through demographic conquest (Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands,..).

    But, for that, you have to have not too different & highly civilized national groups – which is not the case with the US. If, as is the case with US, trend of suppressed racial-ethnic conflict continues, with the ultimate intent of dethroning the dominant group- then such an unnatural configuration of a “country” is doomed to dissolve. Or, if not immediately, it will have become a shapeless mess which will not be as attractive, affluent, secure or anything similar to go on & will continue its existence as a second-rate global power, a mega-Brazil.

    Buchanan was, at least in that respect, right: Race matters. Ethnicity matters. History matters. Faith matters. Nationality matters. While they are not everything, they are not nothing. Multiculturalism be damned, this is what history teaches us.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  31. Feryl says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    My take on the underlying article is that unless and until white people develop some sense of racial consciousness, they’ll just keep on “white flighting” until they run out of space and are overwhelmed by other racial groups.

    Mainstream Western culture doesn’t permit the invocation of white interests and solidarity. Thus, to the extent that whites organize it is along the “covert” “cultural”/religious/geographic lines.

    For what it’s worth, this planet still has lots, and lots, of space left. Absent deliberate “cornering” and extermination, certain ethnic groups will always exist to some degreee, will have their own territory. Aud. Epigone has brought up, several times, the possibility of a white ethno-state being formed in the still largely undeveloped NW Midwest, the upper to central Plains states, or the interior Northwest. Even the North American Indians still have their own territory, mostly in the Plains region, in spite of centuries of white harassment and and conquest.

    As the article indicates, growing ethnic and geographic (as white Americans have clearly sorted themselves into increasingly distinct factions since about 2000) tension is raising the possibility of intensified, possibly violent, domestic conflict which could produce the fracturing of America into different entities. Largely cosmopolitan and atheist white liberals arrogantly saying that conservative and ethno-centric whites do not deserve to be heard in a “modern” society (and certainly shouldn’t be armed) is the sort of thing that is going to produce even greater conflict in the times ahead. You can only push people around for so long before they fight back.

    Throughout the Western world, the 1980’s and especially 1990’s were a time of greatly reduced conflict within the white community. But that is historically unusual, and can’t be sustained forever. So, over the last 20 years it’s become increasingly obvious that proles and traditionalists are being attacked by cosmopolitans and the elites and immigrants who rely on cosmopolitan culture. These two camps may not have been aligned in the 80’s and 90’s, but they certainly did not have a seething hatred for each other back then, either (I recall a 2006 era article in a local “alternative” newspaper which condescendingly mocked white working class people who opposed rising levels of immigration into a less affluent county of the Twin Cities area).

    • Replies: @KenH
  32. @anonymous

    I refuse to define Congress in terms of the Presidency. You should too.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  33. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Your point is well taken. I no longer vote, but the shriveling of the legislative branch is one of the reasons.

  34. aandrews says:
    @Anonymous

    Bezos, rockin’ that Amazon Essentials shirt.

  35. bucky says:
    @Ron Unz

    My belief is that anti-hispanic sentiment is more about a historical memory for whites–that of conquering the natives on the American continent. Ugly as it was, the conquest did bring about a settlement.

    The Hispanic demographic expansion is a reversal of a hard-fought conquest.

    Now of course if the GOP hadn’t made abortion politics so stupidly central, then maybe this all could have been prevented. But feelings don’t care about your facts.

  36. Richard B says:
    @Americano

    What a boring point and sputter ad hominem.

    You literally didn’t say a thing of substance in your entire comment.

    You need to get over your anti-White fever. I have no wish to apologize to you for your resentment against Whites.

    That’s your problem. Obviously.

    “Manuel Delanda–undoubtedly the greatest living philosopher…” Haha.

    Who’s got a little mind?

    • Replies: @Americano
  37. Wally says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Note, there will be nobody to pay the bills of these low IQ, unproductive, lazy ‘People of Color’.
    We can live without them, they cannot live without us.

    Be careful what you wish for. The joke’s on you.

  38. @M Krauthammar

    You are scum and one day that ape will turn on you and you will be featured in a Colin Flaherty video.

  39. FvS says:
    @Ron Unz

    Theoretical for you. Looking at the state of modern Latin American countries, do you think Japan would be better off if 30% of its population was mestizo/indio Hispanic?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @FvS
  40. FvS says:

    Are these actual whites (European caucasoid) or U.S. census “whites?”

  41. FvS says:
    @KenH

    He also treats El Paso like it isn’t just a glorified suburb of Juarez. Not to mention the heavy federal/military presence there.

  42. FvS says:
    @Anonymous

    True. Latin American countries are shining beacons of light to the world. The United States should aspire to be more like Mexico.

  43. stevecel says:

    Hispanics are the closest group to whites. Whites think Asians are because they tend to be unobtrusive in small numbers and their work ethic is correlated with their intelligence. That is wrong. The personality factors don’t bear out. Beyond IQ in the field of personality studies that which was forgotten still exists. With Hispanics the American dream of socioeconomic averaging may still be achieved, because the personality matters as much as intelligence. You can live with someone dumber than you if they still think like you, along the same axis to a lesser degree. You can’t live with someone alien no matter how intelligent they are.

    That isn’t to say it is what should be desired. Why live with someone similar to you if you can only live with your own? Lest we forget, however, even in Europe we were not all alike. If the past wars are any indication, Europeans have no problem fighting each other. But in the face of greater alienation we still take solace in those that are more alike than not. Thus it will be with Hispanics, and the New World will become as the Old.

  44. Alfa158 says:
    @Eric Novak

    Ron has stated that his techniques for stopping trolls from posting under multiple aliases is not foolproof if the troll wants to go out of his way badly enough to do so. Hence, TD uses multiples like Mike Krauthammar, and now Laura McGrath. He seems to be too lazy to try and vary his wording and just copy/pastes stock phrases. The only variation we get is when he decides to telegraph the joke by inserting weird spelling and grammar into selected posts.

    • Replies: @baythoven
    , @Thorfinnsson
  45. @M Krauthammar

    Well I hope it feels good when your entire Utopian World collapses. Since Blacks are so good at building infrastructure and civilizations. In fact, here’s a great article about S. African Blacks murdering Nigerians who are trying to get in; this is what your world will look like:

    https://dailystormer.name/south-africa-is-collapsing-in-a-chaotic-orgy-of-african-tribal-violence/

    What might really happen is that the remaining Whites just let you wonderful intellectuals kill each other and when it’s over just dig large canyons and bury the dead and then start civilization over again. So you wonderful progressives better get your Machetes ready because I know you are against guns. You Tribalistic Bros get along just so well no matter where you settle.

  46. Americano says:
    @Richard B

    @ Richard B

    I simply provided incontrovertible, foolproof facts–hence, your vapid comment. I did provide an opinion–subjective through and through–on arguably the most interesting philosopher working today. You clearly disagree. But it is obvious that had you been familiar with his work you would have provided an assessment of his philosophical views, writings, etc. The fact that you didn’t, tells me that you are unfamiliar with his work and dismissed him with your “haha” comment b/c I indicated that he was Mexican American. Indeed, you proved my point.

    Btw, if you are interested, Manuel DeLanda’s notable works include
    War in the Age of Intelligent Machines (1991),
    A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History (1997),
    Intensive Science and Virtual Philosophy (2002),
    A New Philosophy of Society: Assemblage Theory and Social Complexity (2006),
    Deleuze: History and Science (2010),
    Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason (2011),
    Philosophical Chemistry: Genealogy of a Scientific Field (2015),
    and Assemblage Theory (2016).

    • Replies: @Richard B
  47. SafeNow says:

    I think the actual, quantitative magnitude of the ethnic crime rate does not much matter. One’s sense of security and safety is destroyed by the knowledge that a small subgroup of migrants use machetes and might hack you to pieces. (Or, if not owning an actual machete, possess what I will call a machete philosophy.) This is similar to knowing that while only a small subgroup of Blacks play the knockout game, nonetheless, “wide berth” becomes prudent. Or, because a tiny fraction of white men might be child molesters, better not let the kids play in the playground or street.

  48. MEH 0910 says:
    @M Krauthammar

    A black person from Angola can go and visit his White Baby Mama in Germany but this so called Huwhite Nationalist can’t even enter Britain.

    Laura McGrath Tiny Duck, the topic is White-Latino relations in America’s Southwest. You’re not even trying.

    Agree: @M Krauthammar

  49. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Texas

    Conquista-Reconquista-Conquista -Reconquista -Conquista-Reconquista

    Aztlan ?

  50. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Europeans are not thrilled with any inmigrants , we are fed up with all inmigrants , too many already . Even Mexico is fed up with central american savages .

  51. @Americano

    No matter how many imaginary white boys you bitch slap, it will never make up for the bitchslapping of Mexicans by Anglo men.

  52. Citizen53 says:

    McDermott re: white flight:

    “After this process has played out, such neighborhoods will often retain a small White population, but it is usually one that is more tolerant of diversity or more able to protect itself through higher housing prices, gated communities, and private schools.”

    Take off the rose-colored glasses! Hazleton, Pa, for example, is the perfect paradigm featuring the results of thousands of American communities that have been invaded by hispanic illegals: high crime, plummeting property values, community services such as police and emergency medical stretched beyond their capacity. The whites who are left behind are those who have nowhere else to go and no money to get there if they did. They have no choice but to hunker down in their unsaleable homes that are nothing more now than trenches in a hispanic war zone.

  53. Altai says:

    This rightward trend includes the midwestern states

    Did the midwest get more ‘right’ or did Trump’s platform go more ‘left’ on trade, immigration (Historically it’s been the right that wants more cheap labour and left that wants to restrict it.) and foreign policy?

  54. KenH says:
    @Feryl

    Even the North American Indians still have their own territory, mostly in the Plains region, in spite of centuries of white harassment and and conquest.

    That’s because the white conquerors displayed a degree of magnanimity towards the vanquished Indians. It’s highly doubtful that an utterly defeated white population will be extended the same courtesies and consideration.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  55. Nifty! You notice that the Northern states where Whites didn’t vote for Trump comprise Yankeedom plus in New Netherlands (now called “New York City”) on Collin Woodward’s map of sociological regions [1].

    So we have a coalition of Whites in Yankeedom and New Netherlands that opposes Trump, and a collection of what amount to conquered states in the Southwest and Far West where only remnant and non-reproducing (note the words “single” and “unmarried” to describe them) White populations persist.

    It does look like Latin American population explosion lapping over the southern shores and the Yankees / New Netherlands areas playing it for all the advantages they can get.

    Man, this is crude! No wonder the liberals are in such disarray — they are in the same situation as the Wizard of Oz in this video:

    Whatever next?

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.colinwoodard.com/files/ColinWoodard_AmericanNations_map.pdf

    • Replies: @Urban Moving
  56. @FvS

    do you think Japan would be better off if 30% of its population was mestizo/indio Hispanic?

    Yes. It would give them something real to do. Japan appears to be keeping busy doing nothing while dying of boredom.

    Counterinsurgency

    • LOL: bomag
  57. @JoannF

    As a German living in Portugal and Spain, I can assure everybody here that Europeans would be very glad to take in Latin Americans, as opposed to Africans and other Muslims… I’m serious, you are invited.

    Mulon labe.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
  58. DanFromCT says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Laura, do you see your own children as political statements? Is your husband using you and racist politics to hide behind? I hope for your sake it’s not true.

    I mentioned here the other day that Sir Richard Francis Burton, a polymath world traveler of the 19th century, in his Wanderings in West Africa wrote about the interactions between whites and blacks along Africa’s west coast. While blacks were technologically backward, they were more racist and twice as cunning in their relations with whites.

    You’re a naive woman, Laura, inadvertently admitting with your boasting that the blacks you associate with see themselves already in a race war with whites and so much so that even “touching the hair of black people” is an unpardonable transgression. The black-sided racism is palpable. On the other hand, you tell us, black men can roam Europe taking vulnerable “White Baby Mommas” to impregnate like they were raping the women of a conquered people. Be careful what you wish for.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  59. Once mestizos take over via breeding, USA will no longer be USA. “North mexico” will sink to the shithole-level of regular mexico.

  60. This is one of the ways the zionists undermine a country, divide and conquer, read The Protocols of Zion.

  61. Ed says:

    I went to LA for the first time. I thought the city was great. The Mex-Americans seemed thoroughly Americanized. I overheard one convo where a group was bitching about Cali’s gun laws and cost of living and looking to move to AZ.

    I went through the black area of the city and it looked like just about every other black area on the East Coast. A bunch of blacks not doing much of anything. There were some nice homes on side streets though.

    We should limit immigration but it’s not all doom & gloom.

  62. The current infrastructure can’t support nonstop mass migration. Necessity will dictate voting for big government. Since most migrants are economic, they’ll be all for government projects. Race is irrelevant with respect to that. So for the handful of us who actually want to be living free in a republic, this article and comments are just a wonky debate of depressing doom. Yes, all will be hunky dorry as long as the gross national product numbers are pretty. Sad!

  63. @Ron Unz

    Hey, Ron, might I suggest something?

    I think Gordon Chang would be a great addition to UR as a regular columnist. He’s been a regular on CNN and Fox News for close to twenty years, predicting the imminent economic collapse of China. (In that period, the Chinese economy has grown about ten-fold.)

    He could do his shtick here while these other people are predicting the imminent race war in America. (“It’s about to start any day now…. you can bet your life on it!”)

    And surely you could find some other people who are always wrong about whatever other topics.

    After another couple of decades, you could inaugurate the Unz Review Hall of Fame, to honor people for their consistency in being wrong. Surely such people as Gordon Chang are deserving of some recognition, the way they keep on trucking, repeating their stale talking points, after being proven wrong year after year. Decade after decade….

  64. @Counterinsurgency

    As I recall, Spain was getting quite a bellyful of Ecuadorians and Central Americans back in the late nineties and made it clear that these people had worn out their welcome.

  65. WJ says:
    @Americano

    Most if not all of the Hispanics I’ve been around as a kid, in the military or where ever, were of the squatty diminuitive body type and weren’t really able to slap people around. They did congregate and gang up like mad fire ants though.

    Sailer and other objections, I’m assuming, is the mass importation of their crappy culture of public litter, low IQ and drunk driving

  66. Miro23 says:

    Another way to look at this is the Anglo/Latino relationship in terms of race/power relations, keeping in mind that neither group in fact holds power in the US.

    To get the idea, the US looks a lot like British India, which was ruled by a tiny ethnic British minority (in key positions with native collaborators). What happened in India was decided by the British, not the millions of Indians of various regions, religions and castes. Until the advent of Indian Nationalism and Independence it was the British who arranged affairs in India to suit themselves.

    Similarly, Imperial USA is ruled by a tiny ethnic Jewish minority (in key positions with native collaborators). The difference is that their rule is not so explicit (at the moment), but it is real. American gentiles (Anglo, Latino and others) know quite well why Israel ( a country with about the population of Scotland) gets massively special treatment. It happens to be the ethnic homeland of America’s rulers.

    From this POV, the Jewish run media and administration will arrange Anglo/Latino relations to enhance their own power and security – which is in fact is what they are doing. Open borders mean more Latino immigration, and more Latinos mean more Democratic ( anti-nationalist) voters and the diminution of Anglo power (the only realistic challengers to Jewish dominance).

    This doesn’t however invalidate the point in Bishop’s book, “The Big Sort”. Open borders also serve to accelerate the process of polarization in US society, with states becoming redder or bluer over time (with ever less common ground). The de facto end result is two separate countries, with national elections becoming pointless (since there’s no longer a single nation).

    From the elite Jewish/globalist POV, they are either content to be the Woke minority rulers of Blue America, or they get involved in a civil war to extend their power over Red America. When the dust settles, these situations seem to lead to population transfers that make regions ethnically homogeneous, pure Blue or pure Red.

    Alternatively, Gentile USA could say Adios to its Jewish elite (+ their Anglo collaborators) and go for Independence (through activism and unrest) the same way as in India. When Imperial India was granted Independence the ethnic British decided to leave (and the Hindus and Moslems proceeded to have their own civil war).

    Whichever way you look at it, the spectacular social decline of the US continues. The US can’t realistically pay its debts in this environment or maintain the reserve status of the dollar.

  67. Jacob S says:

    Like what? Turn their homogeneous high trust country into a low trust racial hierarchy like every country in central America?

  68. wayfarer says:

    Planet Earth, the Human Shit Hole.

    World Population Clock.
    http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock/

  69. @Diversity Heretic

    Sorry this comment was meant was for that naive kraut Joann. Anyways I hope he doesn’t get what he wants

  70. @JoannF

    Look at this comment. Was meant for you but somehow went to the wrong place

    • Replies: @JoannF
  71. @Americano

    “Note: Since a large number of third generation Hispanics self-identify as “White-Only,” it is clear that the Hispanics % is probably much higher.”

    I don’t buy this at all. Even at a school that doesn’t explicitly have racial preferences like Cal Tech, there is still a benefit to be had by identifying as Hispanic instead of White. The Hispanic applicants are smart enough to realize this and have probably checked the Hispanic box on their other applications as well (some of them to schools that do have explicit racial preferences). If anything, the identifying Hispanics that got into Cal Tech are more White than Mestizo.

    • Replies: @Americano
  72. So, now we’re down to comparing the U. S. of A. to likes of Rwanda, Darfur and Yugoslavia. Oy vey! What is the world coming to?

  73. Icy Blast says:

    I lived in Salinas for three years (I confess) and I never had a problem with the Spanish-speakers (wherever they were originally from). Maybe that’s because I’m not a jackass.

    • Replies: @Stefania_Says
  74. Dart says:
    @Americano

    Those Mexican film makers are shit, though.

    • Replies: @D.M. Wayne
  75. @M Krauthammar

    Darn it feels good to be a progressive.

    I live surrounded by “progessives” and I have yet to meet one who is happy or “feels good”.

    All I see is hate and anger.

  76. A123 says:

    Trying to analyze ‘Hispanic’ or ‘Latino’ as a single block is virtual impossible as it is actually many very different groups with conflicting priorities. For example (by ancestry):

    1) Puerto Rico — U.S. Citizens, little vested interest in illegal immigration policies. Historicially, those likely to migrate to the U.S. have better education and are more likely to have Conservative values.
    2) Cuba — Strongly anti-Socalist/Communist, historical wet-foot/dry-foot immigration preference
    3) Other Atlantic/Gulf Islands
    4) Mexico — Largest group in favor of illegal immigrant ‘amnesty’. Largest group in the Southwest.
    5) Brazil — Language is Portuguese (not Spanish) , so a separate communication effort is required.
    6) Venezuela — Unique issues this election cycle. Some similarities to the Cuban community.
    7) Other Central & South American

    _____

    If you want to look at the Southwest specifically the headline is mislesding. The primary driver is Mexican-White relations. Not Latino-White. Mexican illegal immigration is itself a crime. And, it provides cover for other crimes such as drug smuggling and human trafficking. It is hardly surprising that there is a substantial friction when criminal activity arrives. This correlates to race because of the origin of the criminals, but it is not caused directly by race.

    In fact, you will find that ‘flight’ of all U.S. Citizens, regardless of race, from crime surge communities is fairly similar and most strongly correlated with the ‘ability to leave’ (income & education). This is not the ‘white flight’ of Kennedy voters in the U.S. North during the civil rights era. It directly tied to those who want to maintain their quality of life when crime arrives.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  77. Dart says:
    @JoannF

    The problem isn’t that they vote Dem, since the two parties don’t actually differ on important policies at all. The problem is that they are racially trash.

    • Replies: @JoannF
  78. This is endlessly annoying how, even on sites like Unz.com where it is permissible to write openly about race and ethnicity, most people still use euphemisms like “Hispanics” of “Latinos”, created by US census categories. If you mean to say “mestizos” or “Mexicans”, just say it. If you mean something else then say something else. The popular American usage of these terms is like calling Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan “English”.

  79. Richard B says:
    @Americano

    I wasn’t attacking his work. I didn’t say a thing about his work.

    I was attacking your comment about his work. I was attacking you.

    Why?

    No one – NO ONE – working at any “presitgious” university today is a serious philosopher.

    Serious thought is strictly prohibited. Especially at any “prestigious” institution.

    As is any serious intellectual discussion. If you want to talk seriously with anyone on a university campus today you have to form a group and keep it a secret.

    Education was replaced by Indoctrination a long time ago. Where have you been?

    The university was moratally wounded during the campus disturbances from 1965 to 1968.

    By 1971 it was offically pronounced dead.

    But you want to say it’s “b/c I indicated that he was Mexican American.”

    No, it’s because he “teaches” at a “prestigious” institution. That’s why.

    So he can’t possibly be a serious thinker who challenges the status quo.

    If he works at a “prestigious” university he IS the status quo.

    I’m not attacking him because he’s Mexican-American. Just the opposite. You’re praising him BECAUSE he’s Mexican-American. Which proves you’re not just brainwashed by Identity Politics, you’re brainsoiled. And for that there is no cure.

    That’s why I am attacking YOU! Because you deserve it.

    By the way, however gifted a writer he might be he’s had no influence on you. You write like a teenager sending a text message.

    And bad writing always comes from bad thinking.

    You’ll never be able to correct that at a “prestigious” university studying from someone who shills for the status quo.

  80. syonredux says:
    @Americano

    . Now, with the success of Cuaron, Del Toro, and González Iñárritu, he will probably classify them as “White” or “Elites” or some other shit, to eschew acknowledging that anything good can come out of Mexico or Spanish America.

    Well, Del Toro certainly isn’t very Amerind looking…..

    • Replies: @Americano
  81. bomag says:
    @KenH

    Ron’s largest sin is assuming federal and state incarceration rates are equal regarding race/ethnicity, while, because of the dynamics of illegal entry, etc, the feds have ended up with a larger chunk of the Hispanic criminals.

    Also problematic is the under reporting of Hispanic crime relative to Whites, and the amount of crime that does not result in incarceration.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  82. baythoven says:
    @Alfa158

    “Laura McGrath.”
    The last name indicates it’s just a joke. Remember “Titania McGrath”?

  83. MEH 0910 says:
    @DanFromCT

    The comment made under the name Laura McGrath is just a rehash of a comment made under the name M Krauthammar, which has already been rehashed as a comment under the name PK Subban, which are some of the many sock puppet aliases of a troll named Tiny Duck.

  84. @bomag

    hispanic crime is counted as white crime and that’s how they hide it.

    But when hispanics are victims they spell it out VERY clearly, as they do when whites
    are perps.

  85. @Ron Unz

    I have to disagree with you, Mr. Unz. I have associated with many different races and ethnic groups, including Mexicans. At first many of the Mexicans seem friendly and I never suspected any hint of racial enmity. However, after frequent conversations with them, they always bring up that racial stuff with me: “You people stole our land from us.” “We’re going to take this land back one day. Where will you white people live?”.

    Also, why should white people give away their country to another race anyway? This will encourage miscegenation, and the white race could be blended out of existence, which is what I don’t want.

    My people have a right to self-determination as all other groups do.

  86. @M Krauthammar

    You do know that you are supporting a genocide? Blacks really don’t believe that whites are racist; otherwise, why would blacks be jumping over the southern border to get into America or fleeing from Africa to Europe to live with whites?

    Blacks, however, can be very anti-white.

  87. @JoannF

    JoannF, No. I as a white woman want a homeland for my people. Why should whites give up their homelands to any non-whites, including Latinos? We deserve the right to self-determination and the right to survive as any other racial group does. No other group wants to give away its homeland to others. Whites should act to keep their countries, also.

  88. @Icy Blast

    Icy Blast, And they never start the racial stuff with you? This is very hard to believe. Whenever I have conversations with nonwhites, they ALWAYS start talking about race and express anti-white views no matter how respectful I am to them.

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
  89. @Stefania_Says

    Years ago I had a very close Latino friend. I spent holidays with the guy for a few years. But then he became more and more marxist. He said, “Whites are a cancer on the face of the earth.”
    (He must have gotten the quote from Susan Sontag)
    At any rate, I couldn’t take his anti-white bullshit anymore and had to cut him loose.

    In some ways it’s not the fault of hispanics because they have been brainwashed by jewish academics into hating white people. Still, on some level, you’d think they’d show a little appreciation to a country that took them in and showed them kindness. But it doesn’t work that way.

    I worked with hispanics and as mentioned above, they might seem to be congenial and friendly, but underneath that facade they are all just like AOC, insanely hateful toward the white world and out to get revenge for imaginary historical grievances.

    And to sum up, even if an individual hispanic is a decent person, they vote left 74% of the time, which means they are going to usher in socialism and permanent power to the left. So, if it was up to me, I’d build the wall and deport them all, including the “Dreamers” who were born here.
    They are hostile invaders and they are part of the plan to weaponize immigration to replace/displace white people.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @frankie p
  90. baythoven says:
    @Stefania_Says

    “You people stole our land from us.”

    For them, it’s the most interesting thing they learned in school. For that’s the warped way that history is taught these days.

    I’m not given to striking up conversations, but I have noticed, just in the last ten years, an increase in hostile attitude from hispanics. And it’s always young hispanics.

  91. wayfarer says:

    “Aqui, se habla español!”

    LAPD’s Most Wanted.

    The Los Angeles Police Department is asking for your assistance in locating the following outstanding criminal suspects. All suspects are to be considered armed and dangerous. If you have seen any of these individuals, please contact your local police station immediately. Do not attempt to apprehend or detain any of these individuals by yourself.

    http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  92. @Ron Unz

    You took California politics and extrapolated them to the nation as a whole? Can you really believe that is sound methodology?

  93. @Stefania_Says

    Actually the real native Americans are the American Indians, and our government not only broke every treaty with them, but also committed genocide against them, kind of like the zionists are doing to the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @GoodOlboY
  94. Ron Unz says:

    Well, I see that some of the innumerate nitwits on this thread are revisiting for the nth time the Hispanic Crime issue.

    It’s just not worth arguing with them, any more than it’s worth debating people who firmly believe that the evidence proves that Trump is a Russian spy. All of these individuals can just believe whatever they want to believe.

    However, I would like to say that I think just about all the smarter and more prominent WN-types and anti-immigrationists have now pretty much admitted that my analysis is correct and has been correct all along, though I doubt almost any of them will say so publicly, lest they be massively vilified by their erstwhile supporters.

    Those unfamiliar with my analysis can just examine the crime-related articles in my race/ethnicity compendium and decide for themselves:

    https://www.unz.com/page/race-ethnicity-articles/

    • Agree: silviosilver
  95. Americano says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    “Even at a school that doesn’t explicitly have racial preferences like Cal Tech . . .”

    To be clear, Cal Tech has a strict merit based admission policy. But upon perusing the percentages (Cal tech enrollment/U.S. population)–Hispanics 14% and Whites 21% or 23% (Excluding Jews 4% to 6 %)–it is non-Hispanic Whites that are in some real need of affirmative action. In short, there is nothing to be gain by claiming to be Hispanic in this context.

    Actually, considering that at MIT Hispanics stand at 15%, Asians at 28%, Whites at 31%, it is reasonable to conclude that some legacy admission or some other form of affirmative action inflated the Whites % in this instance.

  96. I have to pick one nit with the map — what’s up with Utah?

    It’s coded as having had sub-50% white support for Trump. But it’s practically 100% white and he won the state by six points. Something isn’t adding up.

    • Replies: @Anon222
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
  97. It’s been said that the white elites didn’t ask the white masses if they wanted to be demographically replaced. Rather, the New World Order was imposed on the white masses from the top.

    But another question worth asking is, “Did the Wasp elites ask the white masses if they want to be ruled by the New Elites made up of Jews?”

    After all, before there was demographic replacement, there was elite replacement. Wasps just surrendered their power to the Jews, and that meant all those white masses were to be led by a New Elite that felt no love for them.
    But then, it seemed like the Wasp elites fell out of love with their own people as well. As Liberal Wasps gained over Conservative Wasps(not least with the support of Jews), their main fixation became ‘white guilt’ than white pride.

    So, white people were never asked if they wanted to be replaced or if they wanted their white elite to be replaced with the Jewish elite. It just happened.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Justvisiting
  98. . . . Whites who live in heavily diverse zip codes (Black or Latino) tend to be more liberal and were thus more likely to vote against Trump. By contrast, Whites who lived outside of heavily Latino neighborhoods, either elsewhere in the same county or the same state, were more conservative and more likely to vote for Trump. These results demonstrate the variable effects of White flight.

    Altogether, the combined effects — state, county, and zip code — shifted the White vote toward Trump by about one percent for every 6 percentage points of Latinos in a state’s population. In California, for example, where Latinos comprised 38% of the population in 2016, the model estimates that White Californians shifted right by about 6 percent from where they otherwise would have been based on their education and other demographic factors.

  99. @Alfa158

    There is no reason to stop trolling or posting under multiple aliases. The line should be drawn at illegal behavior, commercial spam, and thread wrecking behavior.

    Ron may be too old to understand that trolling is one of the central purposes of the internet.

  100. megabar says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’ve brought this up to you before, but I don’t recall if you answered. Forgive me if this is a rehash, and you feel you’ve said all you care to on the subject.

    My main objection to mass Hispanic immigration is not that they are particularly crime-prone, or unable to get along with Europeans. It’s that, as with all groups of people, there are differences between a large group of Hispanics, and a large group of Europeans.

    If you believe, as I do, that culture is created to a significant degree by the makeup of the people, rather then the opposite, then admitting a large number of Hispanic people will inevitably alter the US. Exactly where it will end up is not something anyone can know with certainty, but it strikes me as reasonable to guess that it will be somewhere between the recent US and the current Mexico. That is not the end of the world, but it is a downgrade. Why should we be happy with such a move?

    One could imagine that taking in the Hispanics most compatible with American society would be fine, perhaps with some bumps along the way, similar to previous non-English European immigration. But that’s not what we’ve done, to my knowledge. Furthermore, this would be quite harmful to the source countries losing those people.

    The risk involved with taking in large numbers of different people are:
    * There are threshold effect. At some point, the productivity loss involved in bringing in less productive people results in a loss of capability to sustain modern American life. That is, if the gains in technological productivity are no longer enough to offset the drain, we will actually begin to move backwards.
    * Assortative mating creates a sustained separate racial group, and the differences in outcomes between the groups, along with the human propensity towards in-group preference, creates tension, blame, and potentially conflict.
    * The combination of the above two makes each factor worse than it would be on its own.

    It seems clear to me that all of these factors are already occurring in the US.

    The argument that Hispanics are generally fine people is reasonable to me. The argument that the US is fundamentally unchanged by the mass importation of them is much less credible to me.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  101. Patricus says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Unfortunately your mixed race children will not likely lead the future of the country. They will be considered blacks and distrusted by all other races, not just whites. If people were destined to thoroughly mix wouldn’t that have happened long before written histories? Egyptians lived next to Nubians for many thousands of years. Not much mixing of the races. Too bad your kids will probably begin life hobbled by racial prejudice.

    How many Americans look to Britain as some private reserve? Not the German, Irish, Hispanic or Italian Americans. Maybe the small minority of Anglo-Saxon heritage. If whites become extinct the world could decline. Love them or hate them they certainly advanced civilization by leaps and bounds. I’m not yet seeing great advances by other civilizations. Maybe Asians will advance. Africans? That would be a surprise.

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  102. Americano says:
    @syonredux

    “Del Toro certainly isn’t very Amerind looking…..”

    Actually, he is European. What’s your point? There are millions of White Mexicans. It seems that Mexicans are condemned to be in a lose-lose situation: if Del Toro wins an Oscar he is “White,” but if he commits a crime he is Mexican. This is ridiculous.

    Ron Unz has pretty much settled the issue on Hispanic IQ and Hispanic crime. Indeed, he has nothing to gain by defending Hispanics, and I don’t think he gives a shit one way or the other about Hispanics. However, it is ostensibly clear to me that he is an individual committed to the truth, a truth-seeker. Period.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @bored identity
  103. @Hypnotoad666

    Mitt Romney butt-hurt and Trump is in “The Sin Business”.

  104. So, essentially evolution in action. An environmental factor is introduced and components possessed by members of a group that are beneficial in maintaining, defending & replicating itself as a viable group, are distilled and become more common among members of that assailed group, while those lacking said components in sufficient quantity, wither on the vine. In time the numbers with a greater concentration of the traits of self preservation & replication rise and the environmental factor is overcome. We are being distilled/pruned/selectively thinned, by an ancient process and what emerges at the concentrated end, is going to be a phuqqing nightmare for those that sought our end. Perhaps the hideously unattractive rage of the left, is the horrific & unspoken realisation that they are the unwanted leftover that is then ultimately discarded, by the very distillation process they seem hellbent on accelerating.

  105. @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    Trump has made it explicitly clear multiple times that he wants more immigration into the United States than at any other time in history.

    You sound like an anti-Trump person, who thinks that Trump tells nothing but lies. So why would you believe Trump’s statement that he really wants more immigration?

    (Besides, I don’t know his exact statements verbatim, but I think Trump’s general position is that he wants “more immigration” from “places like Norway,” and not “sh*thole countries.”)

  106. AceDeuce says:
    @Americano

    Funny, most of the whining that I read along those lines are from …….what’s that term they want to be called that ends in x? Oh, yeah-Spix. Crying at all of the mean treatment they get for invading our land.

  107. @Ron Unz

    “The Myth of Hispanic Crime”…… http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

    Pattern recognition, a game the whole family can play.

  108. Miro23 says:
    @Priss Factor

    So, white people were never asked if they wanted to be replaced or if they wanted their white elite to be replaced with the Jewish elite. It just happened.

    Democratic principles don’t apply in all cases. If thieves are going to break into a house, they’re not about to ask for the owner’s opinion.

  109. Ron Unz says:
    @megabar

    I’ve brought this up to you before, but I don’t recall if you answered. Forgive me if this is a rehash, and you feel you’ve said all you care to on the subject.

    My main objection to mass Hispanic immigration is not that they are particularly crime-prone, or unable to get along with Europeans. It’s that, as with all groups of people, there are differences between a large group of Hispanics, and a large group of Europeans.

    Well, I really have published something like 400,000 words on these sorts of issues over the years, and frankly, my views haven’t really changed much in thirty-odd years. If you haven’t already done so, you really should read some of my long articles on these issues:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/a-grand-bargain-on-immigration-reform-2/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/

    One thing I should add is that I’ve lived in California nearly my entire life. When I was a youngster in the 1960s, the state was 85% white, by far the most white of any large state. These days, it’s something like 30-35% white, the least white of any large state.

    However, the odd thing is that for decades beginning in the mid-1960s, bitter, “racially-charged” issues were absolutely central to California politics, often being the decisive factor in statewide races.

    Yet from about the early 2000s onward, such conflicts have almost entirely disappeared from CA politics. Indeed, I can’t even remember the last time there was a major racially-charged controversy in the state. All the big issues are the terrible traffic, the outrageous cost of housing, zoning disputes, high tuition rates, and that sort of thing.

    CA politics has gotten so extremely bland and boring these days that it brings to mind a city council election in a rural Wisconsin township since none of the candidates have positions much different from each other. For example, here’s a good AP article on the 2018 statewide Attorney-General race, in which the harsh charges and counter-charges were so boring that your eyes will glaze over:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-03-03/california-attorney-general-foes-spar-in-ap-interviews

    If you look at the map at the top of this article, CA whites voted roughly the same as New Hampshire or Vermont whites, who live in 95% white states. One reason for that is CA politics is about as bland and boring as NH or VT politics…

  110. sturbain says:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t know enough to take a position either way. However, am I the only one who finds it remarkable that Ron takes the time to so carefully read, consider and quantitatively rebut a piece that he allowed to be published? Other sites would have just nixed a piece the author disagrees with.

    Thanks again Ron. Long may this site live.

    • Agree: Patricus, baythoven
  111. JQ says:

    Ron,
    I have enjoyed your website for a while, but I have noticed that as it gets more
    attention and traffic, it’s attracting a lot of internet warriors and trolls, some of them just looking for some some ‘uncivilized’ discussions or 1 second of fame, or sometimes just playing the useful idiot that they have been programmed to do.

    Dont pay attention to them, keep up this amazing job, you are one of the last websites that can still brag about real freedom of expression.

    Regards

  112. Cathy says:
    @Americano

    I’d rather be around Hispanic’s anyday, compared to Blacks or Muslims.

    • Replies: @Medvedev
  113. @Anon222

    I forgot that they ran McMillan on the Cuck Party ticket in Utah. He actually got 23% of the white vote. For whatever that means.

  114. syonredux says:
    @Americano

    “Del Toro certainly isn’t very Amerind looking…..”

    Actually, he is European.

    Precisely. He’s not Amerind.

    Ron Unz has pretty much settled the issue on Hispanic IQ and Hispanic crime. Indeed, he has nothing to gain by defending Hispanics, and I don’t think he gives a shit one way or the other about Hispanics.

    Ron thinks that Latinx make good servants….Unlike, Blacks, who are surly and violent.

    As for Latinx intellectual capacity…..Well, we could always look at the Fields Medal:

    United States 12

    France 10

    Soviet Union (3) / Russia (6) 9

    United Kingdom 7

    Japan 3
    Belgium 2

    West Germany (1) / Germany (0) 1

    Australia 1

    British Hong Kong 1

    Finland 1

    Israel 1

    Italy 1

    Norway 1

    New Zealand 1

    Sweden 1

    Vietnam 1

    Iran 1

    Brazil 1

    (None Stateless) 1

    I’ve left out Manjul Bhargava. His background is complicated.

    All of Latin America has exactly 1, as compared to 12 for Anglo-America.

    • Replies: @Americano
  115. wayfarer says:

    List of Cities by Murder Rate.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

    1. Tijuana, Mexico
    2. Acapulco, Mexico
    3. Caracas, Venezuela
    4. Ciudad Victoria, Mexico
    5. Ciudad Juárez, Mexico
    6. Irapuato, Mexico

  116. frankie p says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “I’d build the wall and deport them all, including the “Dreamers” who were born here.”

    None of the “Dreamers” were born here. The “Dreamers” were brought here as children and subsequently grew up here in the US and have known no other life. The lack of US enforcement of its immigration laws led to the conundrum of the “Dreamers”. The proper solution would be the immediate enforcement of our immigration laws and protection of the border; the flood must stop, and it’s twisted to focus on the water already in while the flood continues pouring in.

    Birthright citizenship, a completely separate issue, should be legislated away; it’s a historical mistake that was intended to ensure that the children of black slaves would have citizenship, and it has morphed into a way to anchor an entire family, even extended family over time, for citizenship rights. That said, even after it is legislated out of existence, it would be impossible to strip the past beneficiaries of their citizenship.

    Let’s solve the immigration problems moving forward instead of making insane calls to deport the “Hispanic invaders”, many of which have had citizenship for generations.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  117. syonredux says:
    @Ron Unz

    CA politics has gotten so extremely bland and boring these days

    Of course. The Left has won. What’s left to argue about?

    Yet from about the early 2000s onward, such conflicts have almost entirely disappeared from CA politics. Indeed, I can’t even remember the last time there was a major racially-charged controversy in the state.

    Whites in CA have embraced the idea of race suicide. Hence, the lack of racial conflict.

  118. @Priss Factor

    Wasps just surrendered their power to the Jews

    This is true–but I have not seen the historical details.

    Any books on this subject that names the elite wasps that consciously made this decision, and when and why they made it?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  119. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Unz , your attitude , your intelligence , your web , and your patience with us too , deserves a lot of admiration . With my respects and admiration .

  120. @baythoven

    You people stole our land from us.

    Are these folks full-blooded Aztecs? If not, their claim is laughable.

    Plus, “you people” would be Spain–haven’t seen any protests there on this topic!

  121. Cathy says:
    @M Krauthammar

    Good grief, no one wants to touch your nappy hair.

  122. @Ron Unz

    Yet from about the early 2000s onward, such conflicts have almost entirely disappeared from CA politics. Indeed, I can’t even remember the last time there was a major racially-charged controversy in the state. All the big issues are the terrible traffic, the outrageous cost of housing, zoning disputes, high tuition rates, and that sort of thing.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration increases traffic congestion, spreads urban and suburban sprawl, increases housing costs, lowers wages, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, harms the environment and destroys cultural cohesion and cultural integrity.

    If you look at the map at the top of this article, CA whites voted roughly the same as New Hampshire or Vermont whites, who live in 95% white states. One reason for that is CA politics is about as bland and boring as NH or VT politics…

    Raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent and watch how fast the politics in California will go from bland to extra crispy interesting. California is kept afloat by monetary extremism and clam raking tax loot from the plutocrats who have made out like bandits because of asset bubbles created by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    The Fed now says a little over 2 percent is the new normal high for the federal funds rate. Yellen was talking about “normalizing” to 4 percent, but that was deemed too high. California will be a smoky charred asset bubble wreck when the cheap money comes to an end.

    California could be strategically imploded like an out-of-date scam sports stadium set to make way for another scam sports stadium very quickly. Collapse the cheap money asset bubbles and watch the California smash up action.

    The current ruling class in California can be sent into forcible exile in sub-Saharan Africa after the forces of the historic American nation reclaim the California land.

    First we take California and then we take Europe!

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Thomm
  123. Patricus says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’m one of the “innumerate nitwits” who marvel at these peaceful Latino immigrants when they come from countries where murder rates are five to twenty times higher than in the US. Perhaps the illegal immigrants are only the best and brightest from their lands.

    How come California leads in poverty? Why are the K-12 schools about the worst in the nation? Must be those good for nothing whites and Asians dragging down the model minority Latinos.

    At my Virginia court house the crime dockets designate Julio and Ernesto as white. The majority of convicted or wanted felons, and sexual predators, are clearly Latino in appearance and by names. They are also overrepresented in the property crimes. Locally the Blacks are relatively small-time criminals. Whites and Asians are rare. Temper the “analysis” with a visit to your local courthouse. The truth will slap you on the face.

    I have two Mexican American inlaws and generally like the people. We already have more than we need. These Mexicans and Central Americans will not improve the United States. The best we can hope for is partial assimilation.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Aft
  124. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Indeed. U.S. Citizen Hispanics are crime victims like anyone else. Arguably, more so.

    The Hispanic, George Zimmerman, was defending himself when a black hoodlum was beating his head against a concrete sidewalk. More information comes out about this ludicrous prosecution that was all about DNC race based politics. (1)

    Although an Obama supporter and civil rights activist, the half-Hispanic Zimmerman proved to be just white enough to play the “racist” killer role in the unholy melodrama that followed.

    Why does no one speak about Black-Latino or Black-Mexican relations?

    PEACE
    ____

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/the_trayvon_hoax_that_divided_america_is_about_to_be_exposed.html

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  125. Ron,

    I worked in East LA and South Central for almost 30 years, and I worked with blacks and hispanics the entire time. Both blacks and hispanics have an allergic reaction to the rule of law and see it as a white thing. They resent they have to obey the laws of the white man. They do not have the same investment in our nation that white people do. They don’t have the same love of country that white people do. And blacks and hispanics have a deep and abiding resentment for white people.

    Say what you want about crime, a quick look at the LAPD most wanted and it looks like the roster is about 90% hispanic.

    However….aside from crime and the fact they steal work from our most vulnerable citizens….they vote LEFT. I don’t want my country to be ruined by socialism. I don’t want to be ruled by tyrants. I don’t want to be told what to think, I don’t want to be told what I can or cannot say, what kind of car I can buy, and what kind of food I should eat.

    I HATE the left because they are CRAZY. The borders were opened to allow the hispanic invaders to replace the white majority, to disempower whites, to make Jews feel safe.

    We were told that the Immigration Act of 1965 “would not change the demographic makeup of the country.” They lied to us. The American people, boomers included, NEVER voted to allow 30 million mexicans to invade this country. The demographic changes were imposed on our people from the top down by the hostile elite.

    So, it isn’t simply a matter of how much crime hispanics engage in (though I believe it is significant)
    the major problem is that they are marxists and they see whites as an enemy, and their voting patterns reflect this.

    • Replies: @Aft
  126. @Americano

    Why in an era of affirmative action would Hispanics identify as White?

    • Replies: @Americano
  127. Ron Unz says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent and watch how fast the politics in California will go from bland to extra crispy interesting. California is kept afloat by monetary extremism and clam raking tax loot from the plutocrats who have made out like bandits because of asset bubbles created by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    The Fed now says a little over 2 percent is the new normal high for the federal funds rate. Yellen was talking about “normalizing” to 4 percent, but that was deemed too high. California will be a smoky charred asset bubble wreck when the cheap money comes to an end.

    Well, I cliam no great expertise on monetary issues, but I can’t quite see why CA is any more dependent upon our extremely low current rates than most other states, the federal government, or many major corporations.

    If you raise rates by several points, I don’t doubt that CA will collapse economically. But won’t pretty much all the other states and major private entities do so as well?

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  128. Vinteuil says:
    @Ron Unz

    I hope all can agree that it’s to RKU’s credit that he allowed this to be posted here.

  129. @A123

    Your general characterization of Cuban-Americans, unfortunately, is out of date and too optimistic by far. Cuban-Americans have moved so much away from that reflexive anti-left position that many of them are now swing voters or plain old Democrats, in Florida and elsewhere.

    By the way, my family doesn’t want to live in a heavily Latino neighborhood, city, or State, whether the aliens came “legally” or illegally. We specifically dislike and will oppose or flee their moronic culture, without regard to levels of violent crime.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna, Republic
  130. megabar says:
    @Ron Unz

    > Well, I really have published something like 400,000 words on these sorts of issues over the years,

    The articles I have read have mostly focused on racial conflict. But that is not my primary concern. I agree that Hispanics and Whites can get along. Indeed, all people appear to get along pretty well under good enough circumstances.

    Using California as a model of the diverse future of America does not fill me with hope. California is immensely wealthy, in part from its position as a port for the US, its long growing season, and the brain-drain from all of the US to its high-tech companies.

    So California has advantages that the rest of the nation does, and mostly can not. Much of its lack of tension is likely because it is wealthy and politically homogeneous; the conservatives have either left or have no say, and minorities and wealthy whites alike are progressive.

    California continues to be wealthy, but I suspect that much of the wealth is not driven by the CA Latin people there. As the new demography ages and assumes more economic and political control, I expect that it will come to resemble the nations where its people come from. This is the main point I’m trying to make.

    We already see signs of this, with debt, deep wealth inequality, racial segregation, and stronger government and socialist politics. While the debt of CA is hardly unique to it, it’s surprising given just how much wealth is generated there.

    So my point is that it is a mistake to look at a society created by one people, and ask if other, new people can function there. Rather, one should consider what that society will look like when the reins are handed to the new people, as they inevitably must be. While no one suggests that California will look a giant version of Baltimore or Detroit, it is reasonable to suggest that it might be a variant of Mexico or Brazil.

  131. Thirdeye says:
    @Stefania_Says

    Whatever the theoretical arguments against miscegenation are, my dick disagrees.

  132. KenH says:
    @Ron Unz

    I have no interest in further debating this subject but your bubble called Palo Alto, CA is only about 7% mestizo and largely insulated from all of the problem elsewhere in the state. So you’ve made sure to maintain a safe distance from the mestizos whom you tirelessly argue are largely benign.

    Palto Alto needs to start importing hundreds of street defecators from L.A. and San Francsicko to spice up the downtown area with TB and bubonic plaque.

    However, I would like to say that I think just about all the smarter and more prominent WN-types and anti-immigrationists have now pretty much admitted that my analysis is correct and has been correct all along,

    That’s news to most of us. Which prominent WN’s sheepishly admitted that your numeracy on this subject is unassailable and without equal?

    The debate goes far beyond crime rates. Northeast Asians have lower crime rates than whites but we still prefer that they not be here and wish to discourage any more from coming for the simple fact that they are not us, they don’t think like us, they don’t look like us and can’t make white babies. All the same reasons why Northeast Asians don’t want Nordics or other white populations in their nations.

    Sometimes the simplest things are very hard for you to understand.

  133. Compare Juarez to El Paso. There were 889 murders in Juarez as of early August of this year.

    Murder rates in Mexico, Central America, and South America rival murder rates in Africa.

    Check the “world map of murder rates.” It roughly tracks/coincides with the world map for IQ, and the world map for GDP.

    And as someone else mentioned, besides the fact that mexicans come into this country illegally, they bring malaria, leprosy, zika, bubonic plague, typhus, chickenpox, small pox, incurable TB, MERSA, etc.

    They steal work from our most vulnerable citizens; blacks, veterans, the disabled, and teens.

    CA has something like a half trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities, while the Dems are giving free medical care to illegals. I have to pay for my medical care.

    I know of quite a few hispanics that are on welfare and disability. I don’t know any white people that are on welfare or disability. In fact, it’s nearly impossible for whites to get govt. handouts in CA, from what I have seen.

    White parents pay taxes so that mexicans get free everything, while white parents also have to send their kids to private schools because the massive influx of invaders has destroyed the public school system.

    There are 60,000 homeless people in Los Angeles, tent cities everywhere, people living in vans and cars, trash everywhere…..disease…..drugs…..it wasn’t like this when CA was majority white.

  134. bt says:

    As far as rural areas getting more conservative, this is very predictable, as you don’t need to look any farther than the fact that these areas are not growing very fast or are shrinking, and they are getting older. Old people have a time-proven affinity for “conservatism”. And those areas can’t really get any whiter in any case. The old folks are easily sold on the idea that the old ways are the best and that the youngun’s are getting a little out of hand and let’s face it, older Americans are just more racist than younger ones. I know I am generalizing, there are plenty of racist young Americans, I can see that! It’s a natural fit for Conservative politics.

    But anyhow, then when the people in the rural areas see their children grow up and move away to the big City and start doing the bad things, this makes them even more upset. Then they do things like vote for Trump who promises to punish the bad people in the big City, so their children will stop dating those undesirable types, but then Trump and the other people they vote for mostly just give favors to the billionaires and then they all plot to cut the medicare and social security that the rural voters in the depleted countryside are disproportionately depending upon. See how this works? No one is helping them, they are in complete despair.

    It makes total sense if you DON’T over-think it a little too much about it. Because Mexicans.

    We can talk about the Africans some other time – we did bring them over here against their will, so that’s a bird of a different feather.

  135. Americano says:
    @Alexander Turok

    “Why in an era of affirmative action would Hispanics identify as White?”

    Well, ask Louis CK–an accidental white person.

    Please note that Cal Tech follows a strict merit based admission policy–hence, race, sex, legacy, etc., plays no role in admission.

  136. Americano says:
    @syonredux

    What on earth are you talking about?

    The point is simply this: If Hispanics were low IQ they would not make up 14% of Cal Tech student body.

    Consider this: non-Hispanic Whites are 62% of the population but only account for 21% to 23% (excluding Jews 4% to 6%) of Cal Tech 2018 class; by contrast, Hispanics are 18% of the population but account for 14% of students.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Alexander Turok
  137. @Ron Unz

    Yeah, right. All those graphs and charts and all that verbiage are just another way of saying 2+2=4.

    Right.

  138. According to the CDC, there are between 100 and 200 new cases of leprosy reported in the U.S. every year. A study just released from the Keck Medical Center at the University of Southern California looked at 187 leprosy patients treated at its clinic from 1973 to 2018 and found that most were Latino, originating from Mexico, where the disease is somewhat more common, and that there was on average a three-year delay in diagnosis, during which time the side effects of the disease — usually irreversible, even with treatment — began to occur.

    Leprosy is still more prevalent in Central America and South America, with more than 20,000 new cases per year. Given that, there is certainly the possibility of sporadic cases of leprosy continuing to be brought across our southern border undetected.

    And it seems only a matter of time before leprosy could take hold among the homeless population in an area such as Los Angeles County, with close to 60,000 homeless people and 75 percent of those lacking even temporary shelter or adequate hygiene and medical treatment. All of those factors make a perfect cauldron for a contagious disease that is transmitted by nasal droplets and respiratory secretions with close repeated contact.

  139. Thomm says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent and watch how fast the politics in California will go from bland to extra crispy interesting. California is kept afloat by monetary extremism and clam raking tax loot from the plutocrats who have made out like bandits because of asset bubbles created by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    The Fed now says a little over 2 percent is the new normal high for the federal funds rate. Yellen was talking about “normalizing” to 4 percent, but that was deemed too high.

    Why should the FF rate be raised when there is no hint of high inflation? It is not 1974, ya know.

    Plus, the 10-yr yield is 1.5% now, which means that the yield curve is inverted. The Fed Funds rate has to be lowered to zero asap.

    0% will be the normal, long-term rate. This is due to technological deflation becoming pervasive in the economy.

    Plus, you seem to think this would affect CA and not the rest of the US. That makes no sense whatsoever.

  140. Thomm says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    I don’t think guys like Unz take this into account when they think of a place like Texas.

    I don’t agree. 2nd-gen Hispanic-Americans intermarry with whites at about a 30% rate, including in Texas. If anything, the white Texas are assimilating them.

  141. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, I cliam no great expertise on monetary issues, but I can’t quite see why CA is any more dependent upon our extremely low current rates than most other states, the federal government, or many major corporations.

    I am a monetary historian, and live in Texas, now northern Mexico. So, I am qualified to speak on this issue.

    With regards to social policy, all one needs to read or know is Putnam’s data. Everybody should read “Bowling Alone.”

    Unlike tribes of people do not get along, and that in turn brings a host of other problems, most especially social friction.

    Since Putnam’s book/data has been out for some time now, and yet immigration is still sought after by elites, then the only conclusion is that it benefits said elites.

    There are several benefits: 1) Your factories are filled with compliant people … not too smart but smart enough to follow build diagrams and operating procedures. 2) The FIRE sector (Finance Insurance and Real Estate likes it. Why? White flight is a money making proposition – it creates new debtors for distressed property, and it creates new white debtors for destination areas. See “Slaughter of the Cities” by Jones, for the mechanism. 3) Jews, who represent the finance class, have a pathological fear of being kicked out or persecuted, so Jews feel comfortable among themselves (Israel), or in a multicultural arrangement they control.

    With regards to Texas it was OK when Hispanics were a small percentage of the population. They were intermarrying with whites and were creating a Tejano culture. This Tejano culture was land-owning and business owning, and most of these folks were good citizens. Tejano’s in turn DO NOT LIKE Mexican immigrants because they take their jobs. Mexicans of the type that snuck in illegally were often crime prone, drunken, low IQ cohort. I personally witnessed this over time, and admittedly my sample size is small, but I think accurate. Higher up Tejanos who employ Mexican’s will defend immigration because it is in their interest.

    Humans are a rent seeking animal. It is the very few Humans who are highly moral and will do things against their own self interest if there is a higher moral purpose. (Tend to be whites – due to race differences.)

    The problems are cultural and class and race and economics. All of them combined. It is mostly economics, where CREDITOR IS OVER DEBTOR. If you ignore the largest variable, you will always be wrong.

    For example, the slave trade was simply Wall Street Capital creating a business plan. Outfit some ships and keep them full, and there is money to be made. Banks will hypothecate new credit into existence if the plan is viable – and it was.

    Capital has also destroyed indigenous lands in South America. See Perkin’s book “Confessions of an Economic Hitman.” Capital wants the resources of Latin America and that means displacing people from their land and ability to make a living. Manuel cannot scratch his plot to grow hybridized corn, and instead moves to El Norte to mow grass. Manuel was displaced from his historical lands by various finance schemes and Peso collapses done well above his head.

    So the immigration of turd worlders into El Norte, has many authors. It is predatory elites in the money centers wanting their capital to make illicit gains. These elites are domestic and also are comprador elites in Latin America. Both are in on the same finance scam, and many compradors are Latino white’s who have fully bought into the Jew finance capital scheme. Globo Homo and Zion are an extension of finance capital, which fully came into being in England in 1694. (Debt based banking that runs a country.)

    The money problem is root cause, and if you do not analyze from a money perspective – you are lost. You cannot understand history or the world around you.

    Fixing money with a sovereign money system does have the ability to fund removal of high friction people. No sane country run by sane people would immigrate in-groups known to cause high friction.

    This is why the U.S. is clown world, it is run by a corrupt class of plutocrats in bed with finance capital.

    We can see that universal suffrage democracy is a joke, that money powers can easily subvert this form of democracy. It’s beyond obvious the elite doesn’t give a damn about your vote, and has ways of circumventing and disenfranchising you, including surrounding you with hostile immigrants to divert your attention away from said finance elites.

    It all begins and ends with the money. Is it no wonder that national socialism and fascism cause finance capitalists to freak out and lose their minds? These form of governments puts their people over corporations, and government over predatory privateers. These forms of governments always nationalize the money.

    http://www.sovereignmoney.eu

  142. anaccount says:
    @baythoven

    BOTH of my neighbors (left and right) are Spanish speaking Amerindian and both have had a nasty attitude towards me from the day they moved in. I live in the North, far away from Azatlan or whatever they like to call it. This isn’t a poor neighborhood either.

    The 70 year old Mestizo across the street is a nice enough guy because he wasn’t taught from birth to hate me. He does hate my neighbors though and he is quite outspoken about it. You have to find humor in these things…

    Oh and you might be wondering if I had these neighbors when I first moved in.

    No, I didn’t.

  143. @KenH

    He used East Palo Alto and Compton as examples of BASED hispanics who TOTALLY love America and its founding stock that decreased crime, and of course it had NOTHING to do with the population said BASED Silicon Valley loving Hispanics replaced

  144. @MEFOBILLS

    Yes….CA was MUCH better when the mexican numbers were lower. They kept their heads down and tried to stay away from conflict. As their numbers rose, so did their attitudes.
    In recent years I had mexican supervisors at work that treated me badly, just because they could. I was totally outnumbered and it was actually dangerous at times. It became obvious to me that they were taking revenge for “historical wrongs” that I had nothing to do with.

    When I moved to CA in the early 80’s it wasn’t so bad. But in recent years they fill the LA streets with 500,000 angry mexicans screeching for their “rights,” while waving mexican flags.

    Puttnam’s Harvard study provided evidence that diversity destroys social cohesion/cooperation, destroys social trust, causes a rise in substance abuse and crime, and eventually results in civil strife.

    I honestly had very little racial awareness until the last 12 years or so and I was oblivious to politics as well. Now it’s all I think about. I still can’t believe how quickly the elite was able to wreck the entire western world. It’s astonishing.

  145. @Americano

    ” There are millions of White Mexicans.

    It seems that Mexicans are condemned to be in a lose-lose situation:

    if Del Toro wins an Oscar he is “White,” but if he commits a crime he is Mexican.”

    Totally.

  146. utu says:
    @Americano

    Graduate Program Caltech 2018-2019

    34% White
    10% Asian
    5% Underrepresented Minority (Includes Hispanics, Latino, Blacks, Hawaiian, Am. Indian, Samoan)
    47% International

    http://www.registrar.caltech.edu/academics/enrollment

    • Replies: @anaccount
    , @Jeff Stryker
  147. anaccount says:
    @utu

    If Harvard is any guide, that 34% is largely composed of Jews and bohunks. The international percentage tells you everything.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  148. @wayfarer

    Wow! Unless Latinos have a propensity for criminal behaviour that suggests the LA population is 90% Hispanic by now. Or the LAPD is greatly biased against Hispanics. Or RU is wrong. Which is it?

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  149. @utu

    UTU

    Those figures prove nothing. And Cal State is not that great of a school. My cousin, now a lawyer, got his undergraduate degree there. It’s okay. Beserkely is rated high; UCLA is rate higher. Cal State is a mid-tier school, not Ivy League by any means.

    Gen Y make such a big deal about diploma mills. As a Gen X, I must be showing my age when I say “so what?”. Back when I was 20 years old in 1994, anybody could get into a state school with a C average and a passable SAT score. Its not exactly Harvard Medical School.

    Why would anyone attend the graduate program at Cal State? If you’re really trying to make some kind of impact in your prospective career, any old diploma mill will do for undergrad. Grad school is different. Especially if you are a lawyer or want to get a doctorate. My brother, for example, got his doctorate at UCLA.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Alden
  150. Except that all this territory was once a part of Mexico.

    • Replies: @Alden
  151. @Ron Unz

    Ron your work is amazing. Thankyou for doing what you do.

    But isn’t the argument here pretty simple?

    You found a zero ratio on white votes moderated by Hispanic presence.

    But white flight exists, and it exists in relation to Hispanics.

    So McDermott is saying that white flight occurs and white liberals remainders accept Hispanics.

    What bolsters your case is the zero ratio over previous elections.

    But I think McDermott’s thesis is supported by the white vote for Trump and White flight being a real phenomenon.

    And doesn’t history support ethnic separation and nation building?

    Aren’t you assuming Latinos will accept whites, the same as the inverse? That clearly isn’t occuring. Why should dominant Latinos use English? Or accept white ideation? Why won’t La Raza simply take the South West by virtue of population alone?

    I feel like the white benignty might be true, but McDermotts pessimism is warranted because Latinos will only accept white assimilation, not Co existence.

  152. @Stefania_Says

    Whenever some Beaner starts up that “you stole the land from us” crap, I am quick to respond, “who were you in the process of stealing it from when we showed up?” The Mexicans inherited conflicts with the Apache, Hopi, Pueblo, Navajo, and Comanche (who were also conquering invaders) from the Spanish. The indigenous peoples were being displaced or slaughtered by Mexicans before the Anglos arrived on the scene. In the 1850’s, the Mexican State of Sonora was offering a one hundred peso bounty for the scalp of an Apache male aged fourteen or older.

    I also grew up around a majority of Negroes and Hispanics. The high school I attended was half Black and half Mexican. Out of a student body of approximately 2000 students, only about 40 were White. There were many classes where I was the only White kid in the room. I got along fairly well with the Mexicans in those days, but there was always a perceptible veil of separation between us. I rarely heard Spanish being spoken, and I think many of the Mexicans were not fluent in it. One of the strangest phenomena that I encountered was the extreme dislike of “wetbacks” among my Mexican classmates. In those days, I would not have used that term, but they did it with a regularity. I have since learned that Cesar Chavez, being a representative for migrant farm workers, did not like illegal immigrants.

    In more recent times, I have noted a solidarity among the Mexicans that transcends the border. But, there is still friction between the barrios and their “representatives.” For instance, the Surenos and Nortenos in California have a great deal of animosity towards one another. The Hispanic / Latino coalitions exist solely to oppose the White status quo. Once that is addressed, then their more immediate local conflicts resurface. And, as others have noted, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, the various South Americans and Mexicans do not get along, and are not a solid bloc, as some White people may naively believe.

    I had some friends who married Mexicans. They ended up with Mexican children, not bi-racial ones. Just like the mulatto Obama was the first Black president and he always identified himself as Black, unless it was politically convenient or advantageous to thrown in the mixed race angle; usually as a rebuttal to some so-called White supremacist concerns. Refer to the comments by M. Krauthammer aka Laura McGrath for an example of how mixed race children nearly always end up trying to be as non-White as possible, and are encouraged by their White parent, who is usually a self loathing, race traitor. This is not, in any conceivable way, a desirable outcome for any sane White person who is concerned for the future.

    The last thing that I wanted to point out is how these people from other parts of the globe, Mexicans especially, are so proud of their homelands and they wave their country’s flag around like a Marine at Iwo Jima, but the mere suggestion of sending them back to where they came from is responded to as though it were tantamount to condemning them to an eternity in Hell. All we hear is how terrible their lives were and how inhumane it would for them to have to return to a place that, otherwise, they have no problem declaring their allegiance to and love for. If Mexico, or some other place, is so dysfunctional, why would it make sense to allow the cause of its dysfunction (its populace) to relocate here and expect things to improve as a result of their arrival?
    As a friend of mine was fond of saying, “Mexico is the way it is, because Mexicans live there.”

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  153. @Miro23

    Perceptive and insightful – thank you.

    Given this, I’m watching for what comes first – the financial meltdown or the ‘great sort’. As of this morning, my money is on the financial meltdown.

  154. NM, UT and CO are full of young conformist whites…you missed that…

  155. Doesn’t the zero correlation between Hispanic presence and white voting patterns fit McDermott’s thesis?

    White flight means whites who vote in accordance to proximity with Hispanics aren’t near Hispanics when they vote. Because they’re the whites who moved away to be near other whites.

    So the zero correlation is just a function of white flight, as he says.

    And up to this point, there has been a sufficient white population to retain equilibrium between the voters who do vote based on Hispanic exposure and those who don’t.

    And doesn’t that also fit the thesis rejected by Mr Unz, that white people are the only true universalists? A statement about white racial neutrality says absolutely nothing about Hispanic racial voting patterns.

    It just seems bizarre to reconcile a zero coefficient on Hispanic proximity with absolutely clear preferences on immigration when white voters are tested on immigration.

    The fact that a residual white rump in California is against anti-immigration policies confirms Mcdermott’s thesis I would have thought, not Mr Unz’s. Because Trump received votes from somewhere, and those votes were overwhelmingly against the social engineering of the United States into an even more primitive non-functional Latin American corruptocracy.

    Now I’m not attacking Mr Unz. He is brilliant. His work on the Ivy League and Jewish religion and history is simply without peer. I love this website. And the zero correlation going back to previous elections does seem to indicate that whites are not opposed to Hispanics.

    But it just seems like that can’t possibly be sustained. There are very clear differences in preferences between hispanics and whites, from things as basic as language to worth ethic and ethics generally. As Hispanics take demographic and political power I don’t see how they will simply reciprocate white universalism, benignty and altruism. That certainlty isn’t how they operate wherever they are a plurality.

    It feels more like Mr Unz’s thesis is an attempt to make the United States an exception to all of recorded history characterised by homogeneity arising out of multiculturalism.

  156. @anaccount

    No, Cal State is a middle-class Anglo school. There are not that many Jews in Southern California and they can afford to go to Harvard.

    Its mostly for locals because in-state tuition is fairly low. Or was.

    Bohunks? There were never many Polish or Hungarians in California.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anaccount
  157. wayfarer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “Orphans of Mexico’s Drug War Could be Susceptible to a Life of Crime.”

  158. @Justvisiting

    Any books on this subject that names the elite wasps that consciously made this decision, and when and why they made it?

    Closest I can come to this is Sheidel’s work [1]. The decision “consciously made” in the US was to to enter WW II, and that decision was not made by the Anglo Saxon Protestant establishment, quite the contrary, it was made by FDR, the great rebel, himself, with full support from the Democratic Party establishment. Every upper class in every combatant country was looted during WW II. The US, in particular, imposed a 90% tax on upper income brackets [2]; that tax remained until decades after the war.

    To the US public, it seemed to “just happen”. I discussed this over a local talk show in the mid 1960s (as a call in) and the left wing host utterly condemned the idea of rich people, using the “how much do they need?” argument and asserting that “how much” was a societal value of postwar society but never considering the “how much power does government need?” argument.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Walter Scheidel.
    _The Great Leveler Violence and the History of Inequality from the Stone Age to the Twenty-First Century_.
    Princeton University Press, 2 editions and an e-book (1st edition 2017).
    https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10921.html

    2] http://factmyth.com/factoids/the-top-income-tax-bracket-used-to-be-90-percent-or-more/
    The article misses the point: the 90% marginal tax was intended to stop the accumulation of very large fortunes, not to prevent upper middle class people from existing, but prevent their rising to lower-upper class, which had always been the Anglo Saxon Protestant’s strength. In practice, it left the government bureaucracy as the sole power in the US, with nobody like Trump to defy it.

  159. @A123

    Why does no one speak about Black-Latino or Black-Mexican relations?

    The mainstream media is essentially a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party’s Left. The Left believes that keeping the Rainbow Coalition together is very important, hence nothing that could split is it allowed to be mentioned by the media.

    Counerinsurgency

  160. @frankie p

    Let’s solve the immigration problems moving forward instead of making insane calls to deport the “Hispanic invaders”, many of which have had citizenship for generations.

    Well, we need some reparations er compensation before such an arrangement makes sense.

    Perhaps Mexico would turn over half of its oil revenues until the last “hispanic invader” and their families have passed on….since these “invaders” passed through their borders on the way here.

    Or perhaps Mexico wants to give us mineral or other rights on its territory.

    Fair is fair!

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  161. utu says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Those figures prove nothing. And Cal State is not that great of a school. My cousin…”

    Don’t troll while dunk. We are not talking about Cal State but about Caltech. There is a difference which possibly the loser back home expat may not know.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  162. Alden says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Cal tech is not one of the mediocre accept any applicant who checks the black or Hispanic box California state universities.

    It one of the primo STEM schools in America similar to MIT .

  163. Alden says:
    @evileurasian

    Texas was part of Mexico for 14 years. The rest was part of Mexico for 26 years. Before that it was Spanish colonies for 300 years except for California which was a Spanish colony for 53 years. Before that those territories belonged to the Indians.

    26 years is hardly a valid revanchist claim. And if the Mexican masons hadn’t fallen for the subversive English masons propaganda* I doubt the USA would have dared to attack Spanish colonies back when Spain was still a world power and we were a young nation.

    Check the dates.

    * After the American Revolution British lost America as a dumping ground for convicts and economic losers. So Britain acquired Australia as a dumping ground for its excess population.

    Britain also lost America for colonial trade from which other countries were excluded because of the colonial trading system that European countries traded only with their own colonies and forbade their colonies trading with other European powers.

    The success of the American Revolution meant Britain lost its exclusive trade with America. So Britain fomented revolution all over Latin America. It was successful and Latin America opened up to English trade. The operation was run out of the island of Tortuga. Like the American and French revolutions it was run by the masons.

    14 and 26 years are ridiculous as a revanchist claim.

  164. Alden says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    California Institute of Technology in Pasadena
    ( Cal tech ) is one of the foremost STEM schools in the world. It’s not one of the mediocre California State Universities.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  165. GoodOlboY says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Broke every treaty? Then why do they have casinos and reservatuons?

    500,000 NA’s in 1600AD
    30,000 NA’s killed
    19,000 Whites killed
    5,000,000 NA’s today

    Doesn’t sound like a genocide to me.

    NA’s gave up land for goods and favors, mostly to fund fighting their own petty wars and to become temporarily affluent.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  166. MEFOBILLS says: • Website
    @Justvisiting

    Well, we need some reparations er compensation before such an arrangement makes sense.

    With a sovereign money system a country can afford to pay its invaders to leave. With white people, especially white cat women, it is important to maintain the moral high ground. This is why paying invaders, rather than killing them is preferable. Invaders have a choice: bullet to the head, or the gold, and most will chose the gold.

    The invaders were compelled into America with chamber of commerce types doing the wink wink, as they wanted cheap labor. It was all about making money as if prices are the only thing that matters – this monetizing everything into a price is a peculiarly Jewish construct.

    Leftists wanted new voters and have self hate. Cat women have some sort of sexual psychopathology and want to mother their new brown pets and have potential sex partners.

    The above is why universal suffrage democracy run by finance capital, is a failed system and makes for clown world. A proper patriarchy run by sober men who control the money power is the Logos and is what is required for high civilization.

    So, there will be no reparations or compensation to remove high friction in-groups (including Jews in my dreams). The only way that can happen is if America collapses and a new patriarchy emerges. Something worse can emerge of course, but we are on the path of failure now.

    It is unfortunate, but the republic experiment failed. The evidence abounds for those who have eyes that are willing to see.

    The founders did not secure the money power with enough safeguards, nor did they provide for balancing forces such as jubilees and prohibitions against immigration of hostile in-groups. The founders did not secure the polity against predators, and psychopaths. The founders did not constitutionally forbid unmarried childless women from voting. The bad guy ruling class (mostly finance elites) have even figured out how to stop the amendment process so they can keep their ill gotten gains.

    In other words, free-dumb is a chimera. People are only free within a context of laws and a given culture/history.

    The republic was mostly undone by money powered individuals trying to take perpetual rents for their in-group.

  167. FvS says:
    @FvS

    *Hypothetical. Need to stop posting when I’m half asleep.

  168. FvS says:
    @Ron Unz

    However, I would like to say that I think just about all the smarter and more prominent WN-types and anti-immigrationists have now pretty much admitted that my analysis is correct and has been correct all along.

    Steve Burton and Jason Richwine didn’t at the time. I doubt they have changed their minds.
    http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html
    http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/unz_again_1.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20100708234546/http://www.alternativeright.com/main/the-magazine/model-minority/
    https://web.archive.org/web/20101206203040/http://blog.american.com/?p=11109
    https://web.archive.org/web/20101206202419/http://blog.american.com/?p=11237

  169. @Americano

    What/WHO is Hispanic, Latino? Are Cubans the same as Mexicans?? Politically, Socially, CULTURALLY..??? Hispanic/Latino is highly difussive, UNclear concept…the MAIN problem regarding Mexicans is their LOYALTY to Mexico a nation that shares close to 5K miles of border area.with the USA!!! which does not apply to any other Nationality Asians, Europeans, and NON Mexicans “latinos”…

  170. @GoodOlboY

    The native American Indians had signed agreements that they had no idea what they were signing and promises were made and broken time after time, and here in Montana where the native Americans had the whole state before the whiteman came and made and broke every treaty!

    I live just some 40 miles from the Crow Indian reservation and they had every treaty broken that they made with the US government, see these books, The Bozeman Trail, The Bloody Bozeman, Plainsmen of the Yellowstone, The Fetterman Massacre, I Fought With Custer, Son of the Morning Star, all can be had on amazon, and give a history of Montana and Wyoming and the Crow and Sioux and other tribes in this area.

    The native Americans were subjected to genocide and every treaty with the US government was broken by the government and the same holds true with the government today.

  171. @utu

    Cal Tech in Fullerton. Besides, a Gen Y incel like you is the sort who lives at home and does not attend college. You’d be separated from your parents.

    However, your communist leanings are so thorough that you might attend a community college.

    And what would you know about living overseas? It isn’t like you could. Unless, of course, you live in Israel. From the few references you have made I assume-erroneously maybe-that you are Israeli. In which case how would you know a thing about California or Fullerton?

    It is better to be a man of the world than a townie.

    Frankly, I don’t even believe you are an American. Or even spent much time there. I make you for Israeli. Or Russian, possible.

    Anglo-American? I don’t buy you as that.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  172. Ron Unz says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Cal Tech in Fullerton. Besides, a Gen Y incel like you is the sort who lives at home and does not attend college. You’d be separated from your parents.

    You’re a totally ignorant retard who thinks that Caltech is a Cal State campus and endlessly comments about all sorts of things without every having anything interesting to say.

    Therefore, I think I’ll arrange for most of your future comments to be trashed until you mend your ways and begin confining your comments to substantive remarks about which you actually know something.

    You really would be much happier hanging around some other website.

    • Agree: Charon, utu
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Republic
  173. I understand anti-immigrant ideals, but I do not get the hatred for Hispanics. They have low crime rates and have high rates of income mobility. Despite a large amount of immigrant, improvished Hispanics in the last few years, Hispanic household income grew about a rate of 20% in the last five years.
    The WSJ has a nice interactive chart of this
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/hispanic-household-income-climbs-1536792308

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @megabar
  174. @Ron Unz

    The real Truth is that the so-called Hispanics will not vote for Trump. I was at a local ,very local voting 50 thousand at most, picnic where about 200 at most 300 showed up. I did not get an invite but the wife and one child did. Since only I drive various vehicles and one else does I had to be there. At the table were an Federal representative from near and soon the local state rep. This areas is totally dominated by the so-called Hispanics who will squable amongst themselves but will unit against Trump.
    Do you think Mr Unz that you would survive that picnic wearing a MAGA red hat? Needless to say I kept my mouth shut and just discussed the area through “beating around the bush” type talk.

    Free Blago. “FREE BLAGO” it’s about time.

  175. JoannF says:
    @Dart

    But that is the entire point of replacement migration, to take out the Middle Class, which happens to be white or Asian, and which these people can on the whole never replace.

  176. JoannF says:
    @PorkTastic

    This is a terrible forum software… made for masochists.
    Yeah, I totally see what you mean, psychopaths will be psychopaths – but believe me that Islam is on the whole still much worse. It’s a civilization to end all civilizations.

    • Replies: @PorkTastic
  177. @John Arthur

    Latinos are socialist anti-whites and they vote Democrat.

    That alone is enough reason to want them to stay home.

    • Replies: @John Arthur
  178. @Miro23

    I don’t think there will ever be a real white presence in “pure blue” once the SHTF. Right now, whites, both elites, but more particularly the upper-middle collegy type, and the liberal-yet-still-starbucks-blue-collar type that fill the NW are living in an artificial simulator (albeit one that is mostly white anyhow). A matrix that simulates coherence through basic day-to-day interactions (stopping at red lights), not getting shot going to Walmart, that are enforced by decades of indoctrination of the coloreds.

    It isn’t just white people that have been indoctrinated. All civility within the black community where they are not the massive majority (Baltimore etc), in places and pockets around whites, blacks essentially have a baseline of civility that is enforced by prevailing social mores and a majority white culture around them. Once everything goes boom, they will regress to their natural mean, and you will see whites of all types being slaughtered, raped and tortured in the streets–thus leading to massive exits or mass murder / genocide, in response.

    The only “blue” area will be those that are not white, at least within a year or two. Murder and migration will occur. There will be no true “blue” whites left, because they will either get pilled or die.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  179. megabar says:
    @John Arthur

    > I understand anti-immigrant ideals, but I do not get the hatred for Hispanics.

    For me, there is no hate. I can not state that any more plainly.

    I simply believe the evidence that if you admit a large number of Hispanics, your country will look more like a Latin American country. Just as if we admitted any large number of people, the US would start to look more like the countries that those people built.

    The fact remains that almost all European nations are 1st-world, and almost no non-European nations are. It’s entirely possible that non-Euro people _can_ build such a society, and I would be in favor of substantial US assistance to help them try. But I’m not sure why I’m supposed to be thrilled to run this experiment within my own country.

    I continue to think that people underestimate second-order effects of immigration. A minority population must conform to the society built by the majority, and so the differences between people are hidden, especially with wealth transfer policies and affirmative action. As the majority fades, the minority will wield political power, and reshape the society to their nature. Why anybody believes this won’t be like a Latin American country is not clear to me.

  180. American people don’t know but USA has 2 Presidents, they are the Mexicans AMLO and his Secretary of Foreign Relations Marcelo Ebrard. Everything they want USA to do, they just order it to Mr Trump or Pence or the Congress, and USA obeys. They ordered Trump to sign NAFTA-2 and Trump obeyed, they ordered Trump not to deport dreamers, and Trump obeyed. They ordered the US State Dept to give several billion dollars to Mexico for ”development” and USA obeyed. IN fact Mexico is the Master and USA is its slave, the American population work and live to provide money to Mexico. Several States of USA are already a possession of Mexicans, like Mexifornia. Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, part of New York, Illinois, etc. Mexico can send all its population, or Central Americans or Africans, to Mexifornia, and USA can not repel them or send them back to Mexico, because Mexico orders Mexifornia to take them. If Trump says: “deport those illegals”, Mexico orders some Judge in USA to protect them, and the Judge blocks the order, so the illegals can not be deported. Mexico also can export drugs to all nations in the world, and the world can not make Mexico to pay for damages to humankind. It seems that all nations are terrorized by Mexico, as if Mexico was the Master of the planet. The world seems to ignore that it is being enslaved by Mexicans.
    Soon you will see it. Mexico will continue sending migrants to USA and helping the Central Americans, Africans, Haitians and Muslims to cross the border to invade USA, and USA does not dare to do anything against Mexico. It just will obey always the orders of its Master, Mexico. If China or Russia want to be the Masters of the world, their target must be the current Master, Mexico , not USA, which is too weak now.

    • Agree: Alden
  181. @JoannF

    On a practical note though, you need to have a civilization for it to end. Many central American states have been rendered so paralyzed by so much violence, there’s nothing much left to end

    Having lived in Egypt, El Salvador and the Dominican Republic both for some length of time, I’d take Egypt over the other two and day. El Salvador is simply way too dangerous and outside of active war zones nothing comes close. Is it any wonder MS-13 and the salvadoreans are on average THE most lethal group in the US. They’ve driven out black hoodlums from many places in the US. Criminals in western Europe, immigrants or native are a joke in comparison.

    My job keeps me very mobile and let me tell you that central America and parts of Mexico are places where it feels the writ of the state no longer exists (Or perhaps it never did). In some places the police are simply rogues in uniform.

    • Replies: @JoannF
  182. @OscarWildeLoveChild

    We already have massive black on white violence. Colin Flaherty exposed it long ago.

    White people have no idea.

  183. @Robert Dolan

    Lol. Hispanics aren’t anti-White, nor are they against White culture. I grew up in California and currently live in Texas, and I can assure you that is not the truth. Since California has become Hispancizied a few things have happened:
    1. Affirmative Action is completely banned(Virtually all 75%+ White states have AA)
    2. There has been a huge emphasis on crackdowns of crime. California and Texas spend the most per capita on law enforcement and locking up criminals
    3. Crime is significantly down. If you grew up in So Cal in the late 90s, you would consider todays climate as a godsend. Back then, the totally coward White politicans couldn’t do anything. Today, Hispanic voters elected a Black lady to crack down on thugs(lol)
    4. There is no diversity pushes by the Hispanic population. Latinos know they are not top-tier coders yet, so they are perfectly fine not being hired by Apple or Facebook. Unlike with other minority groups(Women, Muslim, Africans) they do not agitate for seats, nor accuse people of racism when they are not hired.
    5. Fast socioeconomic mobility. Like Whites, Hispanics move up the income ladder fast.
    6. Sensible governance. The totally anti-PC Hispanic electorate votes for things normal governments do, like supporting Law-Enforcement and building housing. Something mostly White Nor-Cal has trouble doing.
    7. Very little ethnocentrism. California and Texas(Both are Hispanicized), have virtually no ethnic conflict. I would estimate that Hispanic parts of the US(California, Arizona,New Mexico, Texas) are the only post-racial political areas in the entire world(Singapore could be included).
    8. Contrary to what you hear on this stupid website, there is no economic collapse in California and Texas. Obviously there are problems given overpopulation in some areas, but I can’t tell of a time when California or Texas have been better than today. Living standards are good, and social capital is still extremely high(that’s why housing prices are horrible!)

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  184. Lolcow says:

    I really dont get some of the anti immigrant commentators on this blog. If Hispanics were so deleterous to America, then wouldnt voters have rallied against them by now. After all, its hardly an obsure issue that you can hide the reality of. There are 68 million of them. Instead, not only have White voters not rallied against latinos, they have trended left
    I forgot, we just blame the jews

  185. indocon says:

    California is actually a very good test of author’s hypothesis of white flight from demographic change. Consider a simple regression between change of absolute vote for Republicans + Libertarians (as proxy for white flight) vs change in share for Democrats + Greens (as proxy for demographic change) over 2000-2016 time frame, you get negative correlation with R2 of 0.27

    https://ibb.co/S09Ndjx

    And keep in mind CA is a place with its Prop 13 protections for keeping property that people don’t leave easy. It’s shocking to see counties where absolute Republican vote has declined by double digits.

  186. @John Arthur

    I actually would like to add one more observation, so the commentators can stop attacking the people I grew up with.
    Our politicans often describe things in dramatic fashion, “One more Tax Cut and the economy will roar!”, “One more round of funding to the rough neighborhoods and they will be fixed!”.
    Anti-immigrationalists are often like this. They tell us with bated breath that the next wave of Hispanic immigrants will absolutely destroy America, and especially California-which they already regard as lost. Of course, nothing ever happens, and California continues to grow in spectacular fashion.
    Ironically, this almost happened in the 90s. The bitter White-Black fighting had lead to more and more riots and social unstability. This was only inflamed by the rapid birthrates of the African-American population, which had unfortunately got itself stuck in a cycle of negative feedback of poverty and kids. White flight of the affulent was increasing, and it was likely the future of So-Cal and perhaps California as a whole was becoming an Alabama type shithole where the poor Whites and poor Blacks fight endlessly.
    The Hispanic population changed this. Not only did they vote for sensible type policies, they gentrified all the improvished African Americans to poor cities where welfare was limited. This had the impact of radically lowering birthrates among the most unfortunate of the Black population.
    So today, now that California’s demographics look like the worst nightmares of you guys, what has happened?
    Well, it isn’t Alabama, but a $3 trillion economy with a per-capita income of $79000. This is despite them having the most wasteful and anti-growth Federal Government in history, where instead of letting our businesses thrive, we tax them to bomb innocent kids in Yemen.
    Today, California is in a far better shape than anyone thought it would be today back in the 90s, and you could not convince anyone who lived through that decade otherwise.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @megabar
  187. A123 says:

    It is about statistics, rates of migration, and cultural impact. Rarely about hate.

    Here is a thought experiment for you.

    CASE A: 3 immigrant families with 18 kids move into an area where the 1st-12th grade system can handle 1,000 students.

    CASE B: 30 immigrant families with 180 kids move into an area where the 1st-12th grade system can handle 1,000 students.
    _____

    In Case A “Controlled Migration” there may be some grumbling:

    — 18 kids would be spread out 1 or 2 per grade level. They would be successfully assimilated as time goes by.
    — Expenses would be limited, such as a few additional text books per grade.

    Unless the new arrivals go out of their way to intentionally create a social disruption, odds are good that CASE A will work for almost everyone.
    _____

    In Case B “Uncontrolled Migration” the system breaks down:

    — At 10+ kids per grade level the children form their own clique and fail to assimilate.
    — If a full class is 30 students, the school district need six additional teachers. Do the thirty new families generate enough revenue to pay for six full time employees? Highly unlikely.
    — Are there six empty classrooms in the existing structures? Again highly unlikely. So are children going to be forced into temporary units or other unsatisfactory solutions. Having taken a class in a “temp building” I can say they are frequently awful.

    New arrivals in this density (10%+ of the population) frequently, intentionally create social disruption, such as demanding courses in languages other than English. Regardless of how well intentioned the demands may be, the result is escalated friction between previous residents and new arrivals.

    Existing residents seeing obviously hopeless school problems rationally begin to exit the failing tax/school district. As the highest income families are the most able to leave, significant decreases in local government revenue become near certain. As small families leave, housing/rent drops. More lower income, low tax generating, high child count families move in.

    CASE B becomes a vicious cycle where standards fall to the levels that can be supported by the willingness/ability of new arrivals to pay taxes. And that ability can be very 3rd world.

    _____

    Logically — Migration should be managed based on community (not National) capacity and the ability & willingness of new arrivals to assimilate and pay taxes.

    Easy to say… Very hard to do.

    Realistically, the U.S. needs at least a decade of “migration zero” to assimilate those who have already arrived. And, the only way to plug the ever growing stream of illegals is to correctly understand the existing 14th Amendment meaning of the term ‘jurisdiction’ thus ending the myth of ‘birthright’ citizenship. I don’t know if the U.S. has the necessary backbone to get over these minimal hurdles.

    PEACE 😇

  188. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you Ron for trashing Jeff’s ignorant comments.

  189. @John Arthur

    That’s hopeful and promising.

    I want you and Mr Unz to be right.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/us/california-eases-its-tone-as-latinos-make-gains.html?hp

    But then I read about the attitudes in California towards immigration and race actually don’t seem to reflect your views.

    Just one generation ago in California they voted to completed end most forms of welfare to undocumented immigrants – see proposition 187.

    You had the May Day protests in 2006, were immigrants protested against the sentiments that you and the other posters say doesn’t exist.

    And now, the data indicates attitudes have ‘eased’.

    Well of course they have eased.

    California has been occupied, and it is now civilly if now physically dangerous to oppose the demographic majority and upcoming middle/ruling class in California.

    Jorge Ramos, Ocacia, even Rubio, and others have stated the United States is a Latino country. Period.

    And none of these datapoints, again, say anything about Latino voting preferences. Active policing and massive housing projects exist in socialist states as well as in more nominally capitalist and market economy states.

    There are two mainstream parties in Mexico. One is Partido Revolucionario Institucional. The other is Partido de la Revolucion Democratic. Both are members of the Socialist International. Which means that the growing Latino vote in the United States is going to vote socialist. Whatever Republican vote exists at the margins will be insignificant compared to the left-of-centre vote that repudiates the Constitution and the United States philosophical and legal legacy.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  190. @John Arthur

    Theodore Beale has also covered the cost of Latino America, where on average the cost of the average Hispanic is: +7,298 per year. Annually. That cost is paid for by whites within the Federal Budget.

    Now I know that some of that cost is just a function of hispanics populating programs for net transfers. White’s have welfare states, and if we were still a white country a proportion of whites would still occupy those net-transfer positions. But the cost would be vastly smaller in a predominantly white country, as in fact – it was.

    The United States fiscal debt is a function of Hispanics and Blacks. Without them, this country would have the gun crime of Norway and massive surpluses.

    But that fiscal cost is staggering – and to my mind it calls into question these blithe assertions that the Californian economy is strong.

    California’s unfunded pension liabilities alone are $1.2trillion according to Stanford and a 3% discount rate. https://www.record-bee.com/2019/01/12/californias-massive-debt-should-caution-against-big-spending/

    You see this weird tendency expressed everywhere to simply ignore debt levels. California has a 3 trillion economy, and it isn’t even close to being able to meet pension obligations – just for the actual citizens. That doesn’t include the millions of illegals and semi-legals.

    The debt that is being incurred to service net transfers in California is why an OCR increase would hit California particularly hard.

    Wait and see what happens in California when these unfunded liabilities finally come due, and they aren’t capable of being met.

    As the white population decreases, unless it is replaced by Asians who generate net tax, but also actually pay it, instead of avoiding it which tends to be the norm, those net liabilities are only going to be met by rolling over ever more debt.

    The evidence refutes the notion that Whites are merely accepting their replacement. They absolutely haven’t. But the invading populations are asserting themselves politically against efforts to prevent further invasion, and there is now a high cost of expressing white sentiments to non-assimilation.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-gop-dead-zone-20161026-snap-story.html

    California used to be a Republican stronghold. Why isn’t it now? Because of the immigration.

    Again, you have this problem or reconciling apparent negative correlations related to proximity to Hispanics with the real phenomenon of white flight, and with white sentiment expressed in localised immigration debates.

    I also find it somewhat ironic that individuals would make glib comments about ‘blaming Jews’ when Unz himself has covered how Jewish organised crime confiscated generations of wealth from Japanese and German Americans and used it to form their criminal politial power bloc in Chicago and California.

    I am yet to be conviced that Hispanics are not deleterious to the American nation, and that is a very different thing to the United States.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fbi-investigating-sheriff-20190711-story.html

    It is quite worrying when I hear assertions of non-ethnocentrism that Hispanics are turning Police Departments into gang fiefdoms.

    I think commenters who are sanguine about the future simply aren’t credible given the empirical evidence to the contrary.

    The outcome they assume seems to be simply white capitulation and a soft slow debasing and destruction of western civilization that is accepted and facilitated. That could be right, but it would be a bad outcome.

    How can a commenter say Hispanics support strong police forces and non-ethnocentrism, when we say the form that takes is ethno-supremacist Hispanic police gangs?

    And given ethno-supremacist Hispanic police gangs, is it really that surprising that whites in California aren’t particularly enthusiast about expressing bad-think sentiment? Will these gangs protect them for upholding the first amendment? No. They’ll carve them up, Mexica style.

    The United States is going to break up, the only question is when, and at what price, and what emerges.

    • Replies: @John Arthur
  191. Alden says:
    @John Arthur

    By affirmative action being banned I assume you mean Proposition 209 and the fact that the courts upheld the affirmative action ban. The election was 1996. Courts upheld prop 2o9 1998.

    But proposition 209 like all the other affirmative action referendums had no enforcement mechanism built in. And it’s been completely totally absolutely ignored. I suppose if a White applicant had a 100,000K retainer and had the money for a 10,000K a month payment he could find an attorney to represent him.

    All prop 209 accomplished was to substitute affirmative action for Hispanic and Asian applicants. California’s still a no Whites need apply state. Still I’m glad that the vicious dis functional AA black government employees have been replaced by competent civilized Asians Hispanics and MENAs. What’s worse, a vicious White hating black who speaks English or a FOB Asian who doesn’t speak or understand English?

    Crime has greatly greatly decreased in some areas like Los Angeles as Hispanics drove black thugs out. But the blacks just relocated to Riverside and San Bernardino and crime rose there. 5% blacks still cause 70% of the problems.

  192. @John Arthur

    You are totally FOS, and an amazing liar.

    You are either a member of the small hat tribe or you are a loony leftist.

    I worked with hispanics in Los Angeles for 30 years.

    They are INSANELY anti-white AND anti-black.

    hispanics did an ethnic cleansing of blacks in South Central.

    My supervisors were mostly hispanics and they were petty, bigoted, moronic assholes.

    You don’t know anything about CA.

    You didn’t even bother to read through the thread and I’m not willing to spoon feed you.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  193. @Robert Dolan

    The glib comment about Jews is indeed somewhat of a symbolic identifier.

    No one who has actually spent time in California as a white person or knows anything about it’s history would utter that unmistakeably significant snide little deflection.

    I’ve always been fascinated at how similar it is to the snide glib little deflections and asides of homosexuals to divert from the reality of their culpability for STD’s and socio-sexual dysfunction in California.

    Maybe there is a relationship between the two.

    Here is just one primary, fundamental, primal example of the divergence between whites and their replacements and invaders.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2015/10/20/washington-post-op-ed-cheers-mass-immigration-will-destroy-nra-second-amendment/

    75% of Hispanics support ending the second amendment.
    80% of Asians support ending the second amendment.

    The second amendment is the only thing preventing this country being subjected to overt instead of merely covert social credit military-surveillance holistic repression.

    These arguments that California is some kind of benign post-racial Utopia are either deliberate lies or from someone who is intellectually retarded.

    Not only is that not true in the present, it is not possible to sustain into the future. The only way to believe that it is, is to be economically illiterate.

    There is either going to be white secession or white eradication. Which one is still unclear – probably more likely number 2.

    Who can look at the rats gnawing on homeless people in California today and say that the state has been improved by mass immigration since 1965?

    And it’s local “”Whites”” acting in collusion with the invaders who are acheiving the change.

    https://www.wnd.com/2015/07/mayor-brags-our-white-population-plummets/

    Like the Mayor of Kansas City working with La Raza to destroy the white population.

    It just bemuses me completely that intellectuals and Liberals don’t understand the reality of what is occuring. Or maybe they do, hence the manical and vicious censorship and repression of nationalists in the United States and the now open threats of reprisals and Bolshevik political apparatus to be employed against constitutionalists, Christians and white Americans when the left retake power. If they are permitted to do so.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/la-xpm-2013-jan-25-la-me-0126-compton-20130126-story.html

    The Hispanics are ethnically cleansing the blacks.

    Right now the payment of tribute from whites to Hispanics is keeping the peace. When that tribute stops, that’s when all these tepid, inane false analyses will stop. Because that same attitude will be expressed against whites.

    Liberal ideology might mean that White-Flight isn’t reflecting in White votes, but it is a matter of time.

    Hispanics also voted for Obama at a rate of 3:1 over Mitt Romney: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/opinion/sunday/new-hope-on-immigration.html?hp&mtrref=voxday.blogspot.com&gwh=435E762D6FC92ACB6342FC7CB145830A&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL

    So anyway, whoever believes there is a benign American future within a Utopian Hispanic society seems to be making a series of optimistic forecasts.

    So maybe the answer is simply to wait and see.

    If there is one thing Trump has achieved, it’s casting in relief the true state of the corruption of our institutions by our ruling ethnic elite.

    Lol 55% of the Pakistani Community in England are married to their first cousin.

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/the-problem-of-inbreeding-in-islam/

    The economics of immigration are a joke. They don’t work. They can’t possibly work. The reason why the European immigration sort of worked was there was no welfare state.

    Anyway, an array of reckonings yet await.

    I just hope that whites won’t accept their immiseration, enslavement, and eradication.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  194. megabar says:
    @John Arthur

    > So today, now that California’s demographics look like the worst nightmares of you guys, what has happened?

    What makes these arguments difficult is that we don’t have good counterfactuals to look at.

    You can point to a strong US economy, and massive California wealth. But you don’t know what would have happened in the US if it maintained a 90% white fraction. Is it possible that the US and California would be stronger and better off than they are today? Yes, indeed it is. The absence of collapse, to this point, does not prove the absence of harm, nor does it show that future collapse is impossible.

    We can look to other areas of the world for clues, even without a good control for the US. We can see that historically homogeneous European countries have all prospered, even with smaller markets than America. We can further see that no Hispanic country has entered the first world, and while some seem pleasant enough, all would be a downgrade from American standards.

    The point I keep bringing up is that functioning adequately within a society built by others is different than building one yourself. The former works when you are a minority.

    The US will have to rely on its Hispanics, Africans, Asians, and perhaps Arabs in the not-too-distant future to build its infrastructure and promote its cultural values; not merely to live within it. It will have to do this because there won’t be enough white people to do it themselves. It will not be enough for _some_ talented Hispanics to do this; there will have to be enough to outweigh those who don’t in order to provide an overall positive, as would be true for any immigrant group.

    The question I repeatedly ask is what gives people confidence that these newcomers will be able to do this, when there is no actual evidence that they can? And guessing that they can is much different from being willing to risk your own society to find out, which is what we’ve done.

    I’m honestly curious if those who disagree with me do so because they sincerely believe that there will be no lasting negative effect from mass Hispanic immigration, or because they believe that the negatives are minor enough to be tolerable, and that there are moral reasons that make it a good tradeoff. Or, something else?

    • Replies: @KenH
  195. @Americano

    You can’t compare the demographics of a California school to the national population. Whites are only 23% of California’s public school students while Hispanics are 55%:

    https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sd/cb/ceffingertipfacts.asp

    This doesn’t represent the applicant pool due to kids coming from out of state, still, the population of CalTech should be heavily California-biased.

  196. I’ll direct these general comments to everyone responding to me.
    Of course immigration has not been an unalloyed good for America. It has had its costs and benefits. Yes, the Hispanic population, of which many in the first generation are environmentally deprived and undereducated, have some cost to the country.
    But many of you commentators misunderstand the political situation of why immigration occured, and why elites, and(if Gallup is to be believed) the voters have become so pro-immigration.
    I don’t have all the answers, but I will try to list some main reasons
    1. To stem the growth of the Black Population. Throughout the later half of the 21st century, the African American population boomed while African American socioeconomic metrics collapsed. The crime rate soared, and it was thought that the Black Population may reach something like 20-25% of the population at the rate things were going. Immigration had two benefits. It gentrified the Black Population, and since it forced African-Americans to live in poor cities, the boosted birthrates from welfare collapsed. Had conservatives taken this seriously back in the 60s and 70s, Immigration wouldn’t occur today
    2. To keep a growing economy. Our Elites are powerhungry and get an inordinate pleasure from being number one in the world. To be number one in the world, you have to have a sizable population. So our elites like immigration. If conservatives had purged the neocon&powerhungry type people out of their party, Immigration wouldn’t occur today
    3. To spite Conservatives. When Conservatives say stupid things like Saddam Hussein has weapons of Mass Destruction or Hispanics have high crime rates, it makes people mad and want to do the opposite of what Conservatives desire. As a millennial, I especially see this among the younger generation, who are pissed that older Conservative folk are attacking their immigrant friends, who they have great relations with. You wouldn’t like it if Trump called your friends rapists, now would you?
    4. Pensions. The pension crisis in America, especially since the older folk in this country didn’t save shit for their retirement, needs a growing labor force to supplement their incomes for retirement. So, our politicans have kept their foot on the pedal regarding immigration.
    I agree with you commentators, playing with populations and demographics is a risky and ultimately horrifying idea. But, whatever costs that Hispanics create are marginal in terms of the benefits to the people who write our laws.
    I agree that a 90% White America would certainly be a better country than the one we have today. But, compare America today to a possible 25% Black America…

  197. KenH says:
    @John Arthur

    Boy oh boy has Ron Unz fallen madly in love with you!

    Affirmative action was banned in 1996 by a Republican governor and a Republican party that still wielded power in that state. It would have no chance of passing today with California’s Latino plurality and the many woke Democrats who now dominate state politics.

    Texas is still largely run by white conservatives, not Latinos, but their time is running out.

    The California violent crime outbreak in the 90’s was almost entirely the work of savage blacks. Latinos are less violent than blacks but California’s violent crime rate is still higher than the national average and you rate 16th most violent of the 50 states. So while California has tamed the black bongo parties it’s not exactly Mayberry either and the Latin American immigrant population has something to do with it.

    Latinos aren’t pushing for racial diversity because they are racial chauvinists who look out only for themselves. If you’re trying to argue that Latinos are supporters of meritocracy you’ll be laughed off of this site.

    5. Fast socioeconomic mobility. Like Whites, Hispanics move up the income ladder fast

    Bullshit alert. Latinos have the highest school drop out rates in America and the highest gang participation rates. And without education one doesn’t move up the economic ladder fast. If Latinos are truly moving up the ladder at meteoric rates then why do they consistently support anti-white, race baiting politicians who promise them free stuff courtesy of the aging white taxpayer?

    Just because there’s no hot ethnic conflicts in California, AZ, Texas or New Mexico doesn’t mean there isn’t ethnic tension between Latinos and whites in varying degrees in those states and around the country. Violent ethnic conflict could erupt between Latinos, white and blacks at any time like Mt. St. Helens especially when you have Jews fomenting hatred of whites 24/7. And just like how everything was great in Bosnia until it wasn’t.

    8. Contrary to what you hear on this stupid website, there is no economic collapse in California and Texas.

    I haven’t heard of impending economic doom in Texas by anyone on this site. Texas is in good shape for now. California, however, is the 8th most indebted state in the union which isn’t anything to brag about as well as having around 1 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities. You can only kick the can down the road for so long.

    • Replies: @John Arthur
    , @Ron Unz
    , @utu
  198. @Flint Clint

    I think that some of your points are interesting, but you are flat wrong about the debt.

    The United States fiscal debt is a function of Hispanics and Blacks. Without them, this country would have the gun crime of Norway and massive surpluses.

    Almost everybody in America knows that the national debt is due to Medicare and Social Security, which cost us trillions every year. The people using those programs are disproportionately white.
    This is not to blame White people for anything, but just pointing this out.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  199. @KenH

    I haven’t heard of impending economic doom in Texas by anyone on this site. Texas is in good shape for now. California, however, is the 8th most indebted state in the union which isn’t anything to brag about as well as having around 1 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities. You can only kick the can down the road for so long.

    Again, who are these people who voted for the pensions, and who make up the people that will receive such pensions? You guys have some sailent points on immigration, but saying factually inaccurate things about Hispanics aren’t going to win you voters.
    I’m not saying you guys are wrong on the issue, I am very skeptical on immigration as well. But, you have to face reality. Whites and Hispanics get along, Hispanics have very low crime rates, Hispanics are moving up socioeconomically very fast, and they aren’t voting in Latin America style governments in this country

    • Replies: @KenH
  200. KenH says:
    @megabar

    The question I repeatedly ask is what gives people confidence that these newcomers will be able to do this, when there is no actual evidence that they can?

    In the case of blacks you already have your answer in Detroit, Newark, Chicongo, Memphis and other cities badly misruled by negro DNA. You can merely look to Mexico City for a glimpse of what mestizo supermajority megalopolis’s in the America of the future will look like.

    America will just resemble all of the places third worlders hail from. They aren’t and won’t raise themselves up to our standards. Ever. Nature doesn’t work that way and she’s not smiling on the wacky Jewish social experiment of mixing the most racially and culturally incompatible people in Western nations to see if it results in pyrotechnics.

  201. Ron Unz says:
    @John Arthur

    3. To spite Conservatives. When Conservatives say stupid things like Saddam Hussein has weapons of Mass Destruction or Hispanics have high crime rates, it makes people mad and want to do the opposite of what Conservatives desire…the younger generation, who are pissed that older Conservative folk are attacking their immigrant friends, who they have great relations with. You wouldn’t like it if Trump called your friends rapists, now would you?

    It’s a real pleasure to have someone making these very sensible points in the comments since I get tired of always having to do so entirely by myself.

    1. To stem the growth of the Black Population….The crime rate soared, and it was thought that the Black Population may reach something like 20-25% of the population at the rate things were going.

    That’s exactly correct, and I pointed it out in a long article of my own a few years ago:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#the-hidden-motive-for-heavy-immigration

    • Replies: @John Arthur
  202. Ron Unz says:
    @KenH

    California, however, is the 8th most indebted state in the union which isn’t anything to brag about as well as having around 1 trillion in unfunded pension liabilities.

    Sure, CA has serious pension problems, but so do lots of other states. Here’s a useful chart:

    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2019/06/the-state-pension-funding-gap-2017

    The six largest states in the US are CA, TX, FL, NY, PA, and IL. Of these, PA and IL are by far the whitest, and both of them have *worse* pension problems than CA, with IL being a particularly gigantic negative outlier.

    You seem to especially like TX, but TX has pension problems almost as bad as CA. The worst pension problems of all are in Kentucky, which is 85% white.

    Glancing at the chart, I really don’t see any sort of racial pattern in state pension problems.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @KenH
  203. @Ron Unz

    That’s exactly correct, and I pointed it out in a long article of my own a few years ago:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/#the-hidden-motive-for-heavy-immigration

    Indeed, I remember seeing an article awhile back that Trump’s margin of victory was entirely due to angry Whites in areas with large Black Populations, while his strategy backfired completely in areas with high Hispanic Populations. He definitely did not do good in California or Texas, both with the Whites or non-Whites.
    I think Trump, like most commentators on this site, misrepresented the Alt-Right populist wave. It was not a backlash against Hispanics or Asians, as so many seem to claim, and was only partially about Muslims. It was mainly, and almost entirely about Black people, especially in Europe.
    But most of these Conservatives are too cowardly to talk about Black dysfunction, nor do they try to fix it, so they keep losing these battles because they don’t even know who their enemy is.
    I think that a Conservative could create a coalition of White, Hispanic, and Asian voters against Black dysfunctionalism if they dropped their heavy anti-Hispanic BS, but they won’t so President Elizabeth Warren will open the border to all of Africa…

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  204. @John Arthur

    They’re all very fair observations.

    1. Don’t disagree. No one will dispute that Hispanics are less dys-civilizational then African Americans.

    2. Yes. That is the argument made for example by Frau Merkel. But all the econometric data about the Syrians in Germany, the same as the unofficial data in the United States shows that immigration is overall a net fiscal liability not an asset. In Germany, those migrants not only won’t be paying pensions, they’ll instead be taking from the pensions. The same as Hispanics are arguably destroying the white family today, alongside all the myriad cultural vectors of destruction wielded by the owners of mainstream culture.

    3. I disagree on crime rates for Hispanics for the reason Theodore Beale gave in 2012.

    “We’re not concerned with the black homicide rate since we already know that. What interests us is how the remaining 4,116 gun homicides are divided between whites and Hispanics. The distribution indicated by the CDC report shows that 3,388 were Hispanic and only 728 were white. This may be a little skewed by the focus on young males, but nevertheless provides a very credible estimate of 6.8 per 100k population, which would put the US-Latin firearms homicide rate in between Nicaragua at 5.9 and Paraguay at 7.4. It would also indicate that the US-White homicide rate is 0.32 per 100k population, a per capita rate very close to The Netherlands at 0.33 although still higher than France, Germany, or the UK”.

    As Beale said, it seems unlikely Hispanics would commit gun homicides so preponderantly, but then commit all other categories of crime at the same rate or lesser rate then whites.

    David Horowitz has also given some good analysis on the intensity and quantity of crime on the border and how it is transferring to the United States.

    I think it’s still an open question.

    It’s certainly true that young people with vote in spite against their own ethnic interests because they have immigrant friends. And that just demonstrates the tension between the micro and macro experience.

    Again, quoting Beale:

    “The tragedy of the multicultural debacle is that while it is incorrect to prejudge any individual by his genetic makeup, it is absolutely correct to make macrosocietal judgments about groups of people on that basis”.

    Many of their friends are rapists. If they are Hispanic, then figures like these suggest they probably are rapists.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972

    80% of women crossing the border are raped. I’ll just repeat that. 80% of the women and girls who cross the border from Mexico are raped.

    I’ll just repeat that again 80 PERCENT OF THE WOMEN AND GIRLS WHO CROSS THE MEXICAN BORDER ARE RAPED

    So who is raping them?

    Well here’s a clue – the UNHCR says these girls are fleeing into the United States to ‘escape rape’.

    But they get raped on the border anyway.

    Who are they escaping from? Who lives in those central America countries? Oh right – Hispanics.

    The Hispanics. But they didn’t know that the United States is now them. Not a white country.

    The immigrant seeks to escape himself and upon arrival finds only himself.

    I just find it so absolutely extraordinary that no one talks about the millions and millions of Hispanic girls who are raped by Hispanics. Who have been raped by Hispanics.

    https://splinternews.com/is-rape-the-price-to-pay-for-migrant-women-chasing-the-1793842446

    And you want me to pretend that my white friends have the same propensity to rape as rape on an industrial scale only rivalled by Genghis Khan and the Soviet rape of German Women after the war.

    Hispanics are rapists – because those women and girls aren’t raping themselves.

    And once those idiot white children suddenly realise their peril in about ten years, they will regret their foolishness.

    So the miserable precious false fake faux ‘feelings’ of these people who get upset when it’s pointed out that they’re raping lots of women are worthless. Completely worthless.

    Based on the evidence – anyone who doesn’t support a militarized border with a wall and armed responders supports mass-rape of women and children.

    And no one is going to tell me that if 80% of women are getting raped, a pretty large percentile of males aren’t also being raped.

    It’s Epstein all the way down.

    I am opposed to mass rape, therefore I do not want the United States to become a Hispanic Domininon.

    • Replies: @John Arthur
    , @Aft
  205. @Flint Clint

    Many of their friends are rapists. If they are Hispanic, then figures like these suggest they probably are rapists…Hispanics are rapists – because those women and girls aren’t raping themselves.

    Jesus Christ, how are you guys still fighting this issue? Don’t you lose enough elections!?!?!
    Still, I think you are a good intentioned man, so let me ask you a simple question.
    Texas where I live is on its way to being majority Hispanic. Whites have been moving there in droves, especially from the overwhelmingly white Midwest and the wealthy Northeast. If what you say is indeed true, then shouldn’t those Whites stop coming here to Texas? Zoning is virtually banned in most cities, so there are very few barricaded neighborhoods for them to hide. They would have to live with them, as I do.
    Austin, where I live and work, is now 40% Hispanic, and my neighborhood is probably more than that. Yet, I see very little raping. I think in Texas actually, Hispanics commit lower rates of crime than Whites, though I don’t have a source to go on that. Maybe I’m just one of those “dumb White kids” right?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  206. megabar says:
    @John Arthur

    > I don’t have all the answers, but I will try to list some main reasons

    To start, I enjoyed this list. It’s an interesting perspective, and I do agree that these are much of the motivation for mass immigration. However, none of your items describe any _actual_ societal benefit to mass immigration. They only attempt to cover up other stupid actions. Do you agree with that? To wit:

    > 1. To stem the growth of the Black Population.

    Of course this is only true in a fractional sense, as the US is currently limited only by the desire of people to have kids. And so, two options appear: (1) Stop incentivizing black population growth, or (2) continue to incentivize black population growth, but also dilute it with massive demographics changes. Which sounds more sensible?

    > 2. To keep a growing economy.

    Agreed, but it’s again a stupid solution. Per capita growth is all that matters for normal day-to-day quality of life. Absolute growth is important for things like the military and grand public works, but only while you can maintain a positive marginal balance for each new immigrant. That is, if you take in an additional $100 for each immigrant, but spend $120 on them, the new immigrants reduce the fixed outlays the government can undertake.

    I think we’re still in the momentum phase, where residual wealth in the US is still enough to cover welfare and still have some for public works, but it’s mostly illusory, and will fade in any event to cover sustenance for the large numbers of unproductive people we’ll have.

    You’re point is valid, though, in that greedy elites benefit from this.

    > 3. To spite Conservatives.

    Perhaps true, but again terrible for the nation. Further, you have to understand that the only reason why conservatives say these stupid things is because it is forbidden to discuss the truth in an adult way. When you want thing A, and are not allowed to say why thing A is actually bad, you have to invent other, less credible reasons. The stunning falsehood of public discourse, and its denial of the role of genetics, is primarily the result of the left’s actions. This applies to class, gender, and race differences.

    > 4. Pensions.

    Yes, any public policy that _requires_ continuous absolute growth is moronic. A better solution would be to scrap such policies. 10-20 years of austerity is far better than permanently altering your future prosperity.

    I’ll reiterate that I like your list. If one were to muse about how to form a society that doesn’t fall victim to the same stupidity that plagues the modern West, it is important to understand how we got here.

    • Agree: utu
  207. @Ron Unz

    That’s a very good observation – your customary attention to detail is marvellous.

    But what do you make of the figures Theodore Beale quoted in his piece ‘The Cost of Black America’.

    Even if you have relatively even distribution of state indebtedness by ethnic demographics, how does that impact the overall Federal configuration of net tax inputs and outputs by ethnicity? Obviously it’s unofficial analysis, and would probably need to be discounted several times over. But it seems pretty compelling.

    To me it would make sense that States that are predominately white would be major debtors. They are after all contributing to the debt which is paid to service net transfers to African Americans and Hispanics. And Illinois has the problem of a constitution which states that pensions cannot be diminished or imparied once promised, and promises to increase pensions. That is unique to Illinois.

  208. @John Arthur

    But yet again, you have this unitary thesis.

    Whites have spent decades now trying to achieve alliance with Hispanics. As you yourself say, whites are remarkably neutral if not outright supportive to Hispanic proximity – but it hasn’t changed Hispanic voting patterns or preferences. Hispanics want to get rid of the second amendment, don’t care about the first amendment, and have voted 3:1 against constitutional interests for as long as voting records exist.

    A conservative coalition of white, hispanic and Asian voters would be marvellous.

    But such a coaliation requires the adherence and the willingness of the Hispanics and the Asians.

    Asian Americans are not as hostile towards whites as Jews, but their voting patterns and preferences are very firmly anti-white.

    Hispanics do support American nation legacy ideas and objects on the margins. But only on the margins.

    This has been a debate on the right since pre-Reagan. Now there is no more time. No one can wait for the ‘natural conservatives’ to suddenly come home, against all of the data showing clear and consistent preferences.

    2 more election cycles and then it gets really dangerous.

    Because again – alliances and univeralisms require reciprocations. Those reciprocations are not evident to guys in my generation at the younger end.

    Maybe you could achieve such an alliance, but only in the same manner with the same results as the renunciation of power from the WASPs to the Jews.

    A Republican party indiscernable from the Democrat party could probably effect an alliance.

    But then the uniparty would truly be overtly the uniparty.

    It’s an interesting debate. Again, I hope you’re right. I hope the Hispanics go full Civic Nationalist, for all our sakes. But that seems to me really unlikely.

    It’s the voting patterns that get me. If Hispanics are just whites – why don’t they vote like whites? With relatively even voting for both parties?

    Because only whites vote on the basis of ideology.

  209. @John Arthur

    It’s just an incongruity.

    You have this insistence that Hispanics commit less crime then whites, and it has to be reconciled with multi-sourced international data that shows 80% of Hispanic women crossing the border get raped, mostly by Hispanics.

    You also have Hispanics committing gun homicides at multiples of whites.

    But Hispanics commit less crime then whites.

    Well that would make sense, if you have police departments personelled by Hispanic racial supremacist gangs. They’re probably selectively enforcing.

    Well we won the last election.

    You are quite right, we are reaching a point at which we won’t be able to win another one.

    But I just find it amazing how you so easily elide and dismiss 80% of Hispanic women crossing the border being raped.

    Don’t you care about those millions of women being raped?

    Why do you give me these gormless incredulous questions? If 80% of women crossing the border are being raped according to woke truth-tellers Huffington Post, it must be Hispanics doing a lot of the raping.

    It is an empirically true statement that a very large number of Hispanics must be rapists. It can’t be the same ones raping each new influx. Because the influx is too large. And the UNHCR says these women are escaping rape.

    This is why Aristotle talks about imperviousness to dialectic. The facts don’t matter to you. Just that Hispanics commit less crime then whites, which is a lie.

    Texas still has a reasonably sizeable white population and relatively good economic conditions. But just wait until all those woke Californian white Baizuo vote in the same platforms they’re escaping from.

    No one would have believed Detroit would look like a Dystopian wasteland in 1976. Once the Jewish Pozz starts taking effect in Texas, as it is in Austin, Californication will take place.

    But just remember – because you don’t support border security you support the mass rapine of women and children. Millions of women get raped because of your imperviousness to evidence.

    I honestly admire your ability to overlook data that conflicts with your genuinely nice world view.

    I’m just someone who can’t any longer. I hope it works out.

    But I suspect that from about 2030 election demographics are going to be moot in the New ethnic-slavias of the former United States of America.

    But I could be wrong. I really hope that Hispanics will stop opposing the constitution, and be the natural conservatives they’ve always been touted to be, but have given very little evidence of.

  210. @Flint Clint

    I could list countless openly anti-white hispanic leaders both in government and academia that are viciously and shamefully anti-white and encourage their fellow Latinos to despise white people.
    Many of them have even called for the killing of white people, and nothing is done to them.

    The idea that there is no ethnic conflict in California is ABSURD.

    There are massive riots in the schools, massive gang fights between black gangs and mexican gangs.
    Knives, guns, chairs and desks flying in the air, students and teachers getting beaten and stabbed and shot. Most of these incidents get covered up and the mainstream media buries the stories because it doesn’t fit the marxist diversity narrative. These incidents happen every Cinco de Mayo like clockwork.

    The few white and asian students live in constant fear of getting beaten or killed, so most white and Asian parents have to send their kids to private schools or home school.

    Most of the white middle class has either fled or plans to flee California.

    I can tell many stories of whites facing discrimination in California. A friend of mine used to work at a VIP satellite airport. He took care of the jets, fueling, cleaning, baggage duty, etc.
    He loved the job and he was a hard worker. Then the company hired a mexican manager, and the mexican manager started getting rid of the whites and blacks. Finally, my friend was the only white guy left, and the manager wrote him up for some bogus thing and fired him too. When my friend went back the next week to get his last paycheck, there was a mexican in his place. Now that entire flight crew is mexicans.

    I could tell many stories of ethnic conflict and I see the conflict on a daily basis.

    It takes a very bold liar to pretend there is no problem with multiculturalism.
    A very bold liar indeed.

    They used to have a nice Fourth of July Celebration at Venice Beach, but they had to cancel it because gangs were shooting up the place.

    California was paradise when it was a white state. Those days are long gone.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  211. anaccount says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Cal State may be ‘middle-class’ to some, it depends on who’s talking.

    I may have misused the term bohunk so I concede on that point.

  212. geokat62 says:
    @Flint Clint

    Just one generation ago in California they voted to completed end most forms of welfare to undocumented immigrants – see proposition 187.

    For those who may not be aware, here is the background on Prop 187:

    California Proposition 187 (also known as the Save Our State (SOS) initiative) was a 1994 ballot initiative to establish a state-run citizenship screening system and prohibit illegal immigrants from using non-emergency health care, public education, and other services in the State of California. Voters passed the proposed law at a referendum on November 8, 1994. The law was challenged in a legal suit the day after its passage, and found unconstitutional by a federal district court on November 11th. In 1999, Governor Gray Davis halted state appeals of this ruling.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187

    … and here’s Ron Unz’s position on it:

    Most Californians view illegal immigrants as unwanted house guests. One very effective means of getting rid of such guests is to set your house on fire and burn it to the ground. This is Proposition 187’s solution to illegal immigration. It would be a financial and social disaster for California, and the worst moral disaster for our state since the internment of Japanese Americans. No decent Californian should support it.

    http://www.ronunz.org/1994/10/03/against-prop-187/

  213. @Miro23

    Very well said, Miro!

    Your comparison between the Jewish elites who dominate America with the British who dominated India of yesteryear is entirely apt. But the British didn’t subvert India as the Jews are now disfiguring the US.

    The Jewish-lead demographic changes now underway in America are profound and strategic. They will soon be irreversible.

    The genetic transformation of America is accelerating. The kosher Kool Aid of ‘racial equality’ is being successfully marketed to white Americans. And the goyim are buying.

    Meanwhile, Israel is taking whatever steps necessary to maintain Jewish cohesion and preserve Jewish genetic health and continuity. Jews value their collective DNA. Whites on the other hand are forbidden to.

    This modern ‘value’ explains why black/white miscegenation is glamorized by (((Hollywood))) while gentiles in Israel are being ghettoized, marginalized, and even slaughtered. In the Jewish state, even Jewish-gentile marriages are prohibited.

    These appalling double standards demonstrate how a small, cunning, and unified minority can easily manipulate a disorganized (and guilt-ridden) majority. This pattern repeats.

    I also liked this:

    “Open borders mean more Latino immigration, and more Latinos mean more Democratic (anti-nationalist) voters and the diminution of Anglo power (the only realistic challengers to Jewish dominance).”

    Jews have used and will continue to use demographic engineering to defeat their Arab and Anglo adversaries. Jewish advocacy helped bring about court-ordered ‘desegregation’ in America which was followed by ‘Immigration reform’ (1965) and then the full-on blossoming of the so-called ‘Civil Rights Era’. This process continues.

    (White) racism is bad.

    ‘White privilege’ must be extirpated.

    Meanwhile, Zionist privilege sails serenely and confidently above and beyond.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @PorkTastic
    , @Republic
  214. @Patricus

    “Maybe Asians will advance. Africans? That would be a surprise.”

    What, haven’t you heard of Wakanda?

  215. utu says:
    @KenH

    And just like how everything was great in Bosnia until it wasn’t.

    I remember when Bosnia was being portrayed in media as an example of inter-ethnic harmony when the Serbo-Croat conflict was already raging in Yugoslavia.

    While I doubt that ethnic conflicts in the US would ever be weaponized (but never say never because there are specialists that work in the weaponization of ethnic conflicts at the disposal of TPTB) to the Bosnian level the fire will be kept on the simmer level to maintain social tensions and frictions to prevent the achievement of social harmony that could lead to true emancipation of general society that could lead to true empowerment of people against “the owners of America.”

    Sweden that was an exemplar of successful third way socio-economic model is in the process of being destroyed by the useful idiots from the left who in majority unknowingly work for “the owners of America.”

    While I agree with John Arthur and Ron Unz that anti-immigration arguments are mostly stupid and mostly counterproductive the picture they paint of California in the attempt to assuage our anxiety are like the spells one casts against reality. The spells can hypnotize but in a long run they do not work.

    The preoccupation in this article and some comments with the political dichotomy of American divide into Democrats and Republicans is pointless particularly because it is the Republicans, the Chamber of Commerce Republicans who were and will be pro-immigration. The immigration can be stopped only by Left, by a populist movement that folds Left and Right together:

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/democratic-socialists-of-america-please-stand-up/#comment-3038013
    “[We]need a populist moment that will include elements of the traditional left that was concerned with the economic issues like wages, job security and much more. The appearance of socialists on the left is a good thing because the left that we had since Clinton is the cultural Marxist left that abandoned traditional concerns about the economic justice and concentrated only on what they call a social justice. The new post-Clinton left is de facto a useful idiot of neoliberalism just like libertarians are on the right. This two groups which now are in the center can be defeated only if the nationalists on the right are able to attract the socialist from the left. In other words you need to combine socialism with nationalism. But for obvious reasons you do not want to call it a national socialism. In a populist movement you fold the left and the right or rather their extreme factions together to fight the middle. Remember that Trump was elected because he offered economic hope for the middle and lower middle class. If he just kept yapping about the wall and crimes of illegal immigrant he would got nowhere. Hitler would got nowhere if he just talked about the Jews. TBTB, the oligarchy, the Deep State fear the populism because a populist movement can pose a real threat to them. Nobody else, no other political movement, can challenge them. That’s why they attacked on the deplorability front but never mentioned the economic issues front. For them the fight on deplorability front is a turkey shoot. We loose every time. But on the economic issues front they can’t win. They win only by distraction and division. Only the economic issues can push the movement beyond the critical point. This is why I wrote that “[o]nly socialists can stop immigration.”

    That’s where we are now:

    http://www.unz.com/article/what-we-still-do-not-know-about-russiagate/#comment-3439814
    The entire ”populist” part of the announced Trump agenda was derailed for his first term and has largely been forgotten.

  216. wayfarer says:

    Sunset in the Golden State.

  217. wayfarer says:

    White Latino-Latino Relations in America’s Southwest.

    MS-13 in Los Angeles – The Root of All Evil.

  218. Lol hilarious to see the Unz – run accounts trolling here. “John Arthur” is Ron Unz under a different name.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  219. @mark green

    I have a similar argument against IQ nationalism and skilled immigration. Even the supposedly skilled practice intense ethnic nepotism which is why Hindus have completely decimated tech in the US.

    Most middle management in most companies is decidedly Hindu. Tech campuses increasingly look like Bombay by the beach. And the work environment is pretty toxic if you aren’t Hindu in a lot of companies. Which is why I’ve left it and moved into technical sales as a man has to eat, although I don’t really enjoy it as much

  220. @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    This site has great value because Ron allows dissent and free speech.

    Ron should be given massive credit for this.

    • Agree: wayfarer
    • Replies: @FvS
  221. FvS says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Yet, he can’t escape his Jewish nature and supports the ethnic cleansing of whites in the U.S. by replacing them with Hispanic mestizos and indios.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  222. FvS says:

    We must ensure that all non-whites around the world become minorities in their own countries through mass European immigration. Only a racist would oppose this.

  223. @FvS

    No. Ron has far more intellectual integrity than you give him credit for.

    He’s extremely critical (and honest) about the impact his tribe has had on western culture. He doesn’t hold back at all, and no doubt he’s faced tremendous pressure from the Jewish community as well as personal and professional ostracism.

    No, he truly believes that hispanics are an asset and their crime rates are not something to worry about. And he probably hasn’t had a great deal of contact and interaction with hispanics, at least not in situations where the hispanics were in a position of power over him. And I believe that he lives in a beautiful upscale area as well, where hispanics workers tend to be on their good behavior so they can keep their landscaping jobs.

    I never gave any thought to race until I started working with blacks and hispanics, and had both black and hispanic supervisors. Believe me, it was hell. I was in denial for many years regarding these issues because I went to a liberal arts college and I was fed the lie of marxist egalitarianism and I had no life experience to draw on so that I could see reality.

    The issue of race really isn’t personal in the sense that I hate individual hispanics or blacks. The issue is that they form the rainbow coalition against white people, they play identity politics, they demonize whites……group dynamics are the critical issue. The left could not win in the marketplace of ideas so they imported their own marxist voting block, and this spells the end of America.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  224. @John Arthur

    There are many other alternatives that were possible.

    If a family friendly policy was in place for white families, for example:

    (https://catholicherald.co.uk/dailyherald/2019/04/25/the-west-can-learn-a-lot-from-hungarys-pro-family-policies/)

    If the border was closed and no welfare or other entitlements were available for _any_ immigrants, legal or illegal, until they were citizens.

    Then, the budget issues could have been addressed and the US would have been able to lead the world for many decades if not centuries.

    That is _not_ going to happen now–and _everyone_ on the planet will suffer as a result.

    White families built civilization–without them it will die.

  225. KenH says:
    @Ron Unz

    Sure, CA has serious pension problems, but so do lots of other states. Here’s a useful chart:

    Some in the pro-Latino camp try to slyly attribute their large presence to any economic success that California is enjoying. But whatever economic success California still enjoys is in spite of the large and growing Latino population.

    Illinois is only 60% white and is hemorrhaging productive white residents yearly due to the gross mismanagement by the Democrats and looming fiscal cliff. White Republican Bruce Rauner attempted to get the state’s finances in order by cutting some of the free stuff that blacks and Latinos relied on and other Democrat vote buying schemes but those have all been fully restored by the new ultra left wing Jewish governor J.B. Pritzker. Rauner was blocked on other reforms by the Chicago Democrat mafia who run the state house.

    There’s certainly plenty of fiscally irresponsible whites in state governments but all of the fiscal hawks are also white. There are no Latino or black politicians calling for spending reductions and shrinking the government. Those are white things.

    According to your link the Texas pension system is funded at a rate of 70-79% while California’s is funded at 60-69%. But Texas is ranked 22 in indebtedness while California is ranked 42, so the Texas debt burden is much lower. That will change once white liberals and their Latino allies start taking control and spending like California.

    I suppose there’s no racial pattern in state pension liabilities if you just focus on the outliers like Kentucky, Pennsylvania and a few others. But eight states are funded at least at 90% with seven of the eight states having white populations of 63-82%, Republican political control and hispanic populations 4-11% below the national average. New York is the lone outlier.

    The next five states funded at 80% or more have white populations ranging from 68% to 93% and hispanic populations that are 6-16% below the national average.

    I can’t find one state with an hispanic population at or above the national average with low indebtedness and a pension system funded at 80% or higher although Florida and possibly Texas come close. Maybe that’s just a coincidence but given that hispanic populations tend to require the most government services I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  226. KenH says:
    @John Arthur

    Again, who are these people who voted for the pensions, and who make up the people that will receive such pensions?

    Those people are increasingly brown as more latinos are put on the state payroll. And when you have a large hispanic population that requires more government services than the white natives that will take money away from the pension fund.

    You guys have some sailent points on immigration, but saying factually inaccurate things about Hispanics aren’t going to win you voters.

    I guess I’m still waiting for you to point out the factual inaccuracies of any anti-latino arguments on this thread. In some cases we just have differences of opinions based on our life experiences.

    Hispanics are moving up socioeconomically very fast, and they aren’t voting in Latin America style governments in this country

    A totally counterfactual statement. Latinos vote 66-72% for Democrats who are now offering to essentially repeal the first and second amendments and implement socialist policies across the board. AOC is a latina left wing firebrand who hates white people and demands Latin American style tyranny and she was elected by fellow latinos and other non-whites in her district.

    Latino immigration has turned California from a Republican stronghold into a one party, Democrat state, flipped Nevada blue and is turning more formerly red states into purple, “battleground states” with each election season. The (((media))) gloat about this all the time, so you lose credibility by claiming that in general Latinos have the world view of the John Birch Society.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  227. @KenH

    The Latinos I have dealt with in California have all been extremely far left, anti-white, pro-mexico, and anti-American. Not all, but most.

    To be fair, the Jmedia has brainwashed them and fed into their inferiority complex to turn them into anti-white marxist lunatics.

    Most of the countries south of the border have failed socialist governments, and you might think that hispanics would realize that marxism is a sham and only benefits the tiny elite at the top……but no…..
    hispanics are dyed in the wool leftists and they intuit that being on the left with the rest of the disaffected rent seeking scum is the best way they can bring down whitey.

    Hispanics have imaginary historical grievances fueled by the J-media and J-academia, which in turn destroys social trust. Hispanics, as well as all non-whites, have special rights above and beyond the rights of white people…..correction……white people essentially have no civil protections at all.

    • Replies: @KenH
  228. I want a homeland of my own. For my own.

  229. @John Arthur

    No, you are not accounting for net tax inputs versus net tax draws.

    The people using those programs are disproportionately white. But the people who provide for them in net terms after accounting for net transfer recipience are uniformly and only white. With some Asians of various hues and Jews when they pay tax (which they mostly don’t) included.

    Blacks and Hispanics on average pay zero net tax. But they are massive per capita users of those programs, actually far in excess of whites per capita.

    It’s just a fundamental misunderstanding of cost benefit. Which actually pervades our system.

    “A new bipartisan Senate report revealed more than half of the government’s public data on federal spending is wrong, as the website USAspending.gov is riddled with errors.

    [MORE]

    The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, led by chairman Rob Portman (R., Ohio) and ranking member Tom Carper (D., Del.), released a report Tuesday finding nearly every agency is failing to accurately report its spending as required by federal law.

    The subcommittee reviewed over two dozen inspector general reports and determined 55 percent of the spending data submitted to USAspending.gov was inaccurate. The errors accounted for $240 billion in spending during the second quarter of 2017, according to the report.

    The Digital Accountability and Transparency Act of 2014, or DATA Act, required federal spending to be easily accessible to the public through a searchable website, which became USAspending.gov. The website was revamped earlier this year, but agencies are not meeting their requirements to submit accurate, consistent, and reliable data on its spending.

    The agency in charge of USAspending.gov—the Treasury Department—is among the worst culprits, as 96 percent of its own data is inaccurate.”

    To put this in perspective, $240 billion amounts to 1.3 percent of the $18.6 trillion US GDP. Since it was reported that GDP grew 3.1 percent in the first quarter of 2018 compared to the previous quarter, that means that actual GDP growth was either 4.4 or 1.8 percent that quarter, depending upon which way the error lies.

    This error rate is insane. Where in the Sam Hill is all the money going? Where?

    This level of corruption did not exist in pre 1965 America. Because as Unz himself has so courageously and brilliantly described on this website, whilst Jews were turning the government into an extension of their crime syndicates, they had to contend with the basic mass of Christian honesty and basic threshold competency represented by a white largely honest and sincere civil service.

    That is gone. Gone.

    The United States of Latino American can’t even determine it’s expenditure per quarter to within $300billion of real value. This is just third world monkey-land magic thinking magic dirt fake fake fake. The US is just being farmed and leeched. No other western country has this level of public accounting failure. It must be deliberate.

    That doesn’t even take into account the trillions sent to Tel Aviv trusts via the Pentagon. Where did all those trillions go.

    The United States economy only functions because of whites. The present systems where Jews print money to inflate Jewish capital values and transfer money from whites to non-whites relies upon white payment of the current and future debt.

    It’s going to end.

    Hispanics are upwardly mobile, but they won’t reach net tax contribution for decades even at this pace. Those rapists are going to keep coming. And coming. And coming. And yes, the United States fiscal debt is absolutely, with only minor tweaking, a function of non-whites.

    You have not refuted the analysis of the Federal budget by ethnic recipience at all.

    White’s can’t afford families because they are paying, solely, for the programs that are used by the other races, even as those other races accuse them of racism, facism, and sadism for wanting to exist. And the error rate that exists now, will simply transcend into error non-error. Because no one will even care anymore about things like real valuations etc.

    It can’t last.

    Merely saying that white people constitute program demand side says nothing about supply side.

    • Replies: @Urban Moving
  230. Republic says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Thank you for an excellent analysis!

  231. Republic says:
    @Ron Unz

    You’re a totally ignorant retard who thinks that Caltech is a Cal State campus and endlessly comments about all sorts of things without every having anything interesting to say.

    Therefore, I think I’ll arrange for most of your future comments to be trashed until you mend your ways and begin confining your comments to substantive remarks about which you actually know something.

    You really would be much happier hanging around some other website.

    I agree

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  232. @Republic

    LOL. I thought our kind editor was far too busy with his software development, archival work, and writing his next article in the American Pravda series to be reading through our comments, especially uninteresting ones by Jeff Stryker. That algorithm to cut down on Stryker’s repetitive anecdotal comments doesn’t seem to be working too well just yet. Not even the one “IF JEFF STRYKER GO TO TRASH”. LOL. And how about replacing all future comments by Wally with a simple link to CODOH – sort of each time he turns up “IF WALLY GO TO codoh.com”. LOL.

    • Replies: @Republic
  233. Miro23 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I never gave any thought to race until I started working with blacks and hispanics, and had both black and hispanic supervisors. Believe me, it was hell. I was in denial for many years regarding these issues because I went to a liberal arts college and I was fed the lie of marxist egalitarianism and I had no life experience to draw on so that I could see reality.

    People in power are usually different from the same people without it. Different situations offer different possibilities, so it’s maybe misleading to regard the attitudes of Latinos at present (without power) as some kind of definite permanent state.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  234. JoannF says:
    @PorkTastic

    Of course… you will always have an abundance of psychopathy and exaggerated misbehavior when you indulge in the propagation of badly selected genetic material, then let simplistic pseudo-national fragments freely develop along local power structure lines, Central America is surely as good an example as Central Africa.
    But what I really meant was the CULTURE, which in Latin America is a very weak shadow of actual Spanish culture. Yeah – they are killing the toros, for all it’s worth.

    Islam however is a dominant culture and religious ruling system that has, under the fascinated scrutiny of witnesses, plundered several superior cultures over a Millenium and not profited from them – or rather, has managed to stay unchanged and unimpressed largely, because of its dogmata, the most important of which is that all must be destroyed that could change one’s original opinions.

    Stasis is its main goal and strength, and I believe this is the reason why the Globalists see it as the most useful instrument to employ against western culture and society, in conjunction with IQ80 genetics it will guarantee that the nuisance of ‘modern’ western society will stay buried till the end of time.

    • Replies: @PorkTastic
  235. KenH says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Some people go off the deep end and accuse us of hating all Latinos if we notice that they aren’t making America better by their growing presence. There are likeable Latinos and in general they don’t have the shitty attitude towards whites that many blacks do. They probably are preferrable to some other groups but anyone who’s had some regular dealings with them will never confuse them for Swedes, Germans or Italians in their behavior and world outlook.

    Wherever Latinos settle in large numbers they just recreate Mexico and/or Central America.

    There’s already a heavy anti-Anglo bias in Mexico’s version of history that they teach their citizens (and which Fred Reed even admitted years ago). It only gets worse when they come to America and are encouraged to loathe white Americans by the (((media))), some of our education institutions and many of our (((elites))).

    Either way their growing presence does not bode well for America no matter what Ron Unz and Fred Reed claim to the contrary, often with scant evidence. At some point we’ll cease being America and become Mexico or Brazil.

  236. @Miro23

    Latinos DO have power, because the nose has given them agency. And as their numbers grow, their ballot box power grows as well.

    Latinos are part of the anti-white rainbow coalition (blacks, browns, asians, and jews) and the glue that holds this hellish marxist thing together is a deep and abiding hatred of white Christian men.

    I’m part of the white minority here in California, and Latinos often throw it in my face. My supermarket hires only Latinos. My bank hires Latinos and their ads are targeted at pocs and white faces are conspicuously absent. My Latino “friend” told me that whites are a cancer on the face of the earth. Latino’s often tell me that I “stole their land.” They tell me they are “indigenous” and that I should “go back to Europe.” I say, “Oh! You’re a native American? Which tribe are you from? Apache? Comanche?” That brings a deer in the headlights look every time.

    I get really tired of their 85 IQ tomfoolery and bad attitudes.

    Their attitudes are NOT going to get better and will surely get worse. Look at AOC…..she literally froths at the mouth with hatred when she grills white men in Congressional hearings. Did you see the way she treated Homan?

    No…this isn’t going to get better……and it isn’t going to end well…….

  237. Republic says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I am really getting tired of that guy,(JS), and his endless repetition of his very boring life story. Hope that he starts posting on some other website.

    • Agree: Alden
  238. bruno says:

    Ron, you have a great site. Should you have time you might desire to read the review below. About 340 pp were reduced to 5. It’s for those pressed for time.

    THE US DIVIDE: COMMENTARY ON THE BOOK ILLEGALS
    B. Chapinski

    [MORE]

    This is an engrossing book. The title is “Illegals.” It’s composed by Darrell Ankarlo. The book has 337 pages and this review reduced DA’s pertinent info to 5. The author is a talk show host. He loves America and is troubled by the enormous number of criminal burdensome illegals entering the US. Listening to the recent news about illegals in Chicago makes his arduous study understanding.

    He commences his work by referring to Americans near the border. They are the first line of contact. They would provide foreign invaders with water and assist them when they required medical aid. Their reward was discovering drugs on their property. One guy contacted family about a drug dilemma. When his brother reached him it was too late. He and his dog had been killed. That’s the opening scene.

    This book is a snapshot of a Camp of Saints situation that has become uncontrollable. When the Arizona governor initiated a law that would require people to prove they were US citizens, hundreds of illegal protesters blatantly marched. They fought with police and threw bottles. They also referred to those concerned with law as haters. They were so bold that they loudly proclaimed (while they were in the home of Americans), “We will bring you to your knees.” They yelled, “We are here illegally and what are you going to do about it!” Seems their “in-your-face” behavior verified what US law implies. They were not rounded up, despite their anti-US mocking and confessing to being law breakers. This is a representation of how politicians have remolded this country.

    According to the author, the majority of Americans are against illegal immigration. Unfortunately, the hands of citizens are tied. When Arizona law attempted to defend citizens, US Atty. Gen. Holder came out strongly against the law for defending Americans. Abrasive anti-US protest marching is coast to coast. The situation is a sham. Many authorities have asserted, that overall, Mexico sends her worst unskilled, low IQ elements into the USA. They abuse Americans and politicians protect them.

    As an example of American division, the author refers to Rodney King. He was a low IQer with a history of domestic abuse and drug crimes. When he was involved with fisticuffs and police conflict, he created a foundation that resulted in the Los Angeles riots. He was a pristine example of the American divide.

    The author goes on noting his concern with illegals having anchor babies and then joining the sea of entitlement households. His logic is that he wants law breakers abusing the USA to stay away and build a better home nation, instead of becoming burdens on the backs of Americans.

    The situation is so out-of-control that when illegals openly demonstrate, the anti-majority media supports them. The presstitude propagates emotional indoctrinating blackmail that fertilizes alturism.

    On the other side, Coyotes make a fortune bringing in destitution. These Jackers, as they are known, often obtain enormous profits, from invaders. The fake ID industry also prospers. The political leaders of our country, until recently, have not been serious about stopping the illegals’ escalating crime wave. In fact, the Obama regime was responsible for the illegal invasion metastasizing. In order to create a loophole in the law, the Obama administration had what is known as a “catch and release program.”

    We read about our patrol agents fingerprinting invaders. If the illegals don’t have criminal records, they are released to Mexican officials. In turn, those released simply double back to the United States.

    The author interviewed illegals who were held by our border authorities. He also asked invaders how many had been in the US more than three times. At least 75% raised their hand. One detainee echoed that the American legal system is a joke. Many believe that parts of America belongs to them. It’s such a dilemma that right at the border, billions of dollars in confiscated drugs are alleged to having been burnt by border control agents (guarding that Fort Knox type fortune).

    Dr Truxillo, an expert on this lawlessness, hypothesized, like many others, that the growing Mexican population will become a future force to be accorded a new image. Next, they will probably move towards self-government. Then, there will be eventual sovereignty. It’s only normal evolution. He was talking about Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Mexifornia. Also, included will be a substantial part of Southern Colorado, parts of Utah and Nevada. Think of Jean Raspail’s bestseller “The Camp of Saints.”

    -To be continued-

    As an expert on the subject, Dr. Truxillo, continues by informing that Mexico is more than one country. For example, the southern part is Indian. He thinks that the northern part of Mexico (in the “American south west”) might even eventually form their own independent country.

    After all, in that region, by 2040, Latinos will officially be the majority. American democracy will allow Latinos to capture local governments and (thus) gain evermore influence. We read there could be 38 million illegal immigrants in the USA. All of this is important because only about 3% of woman and 12% of men in the USA care about things such as US history.

    The white population is declining in America and the browns from Mexico will be in a controlling position. Also, the reality is that most people have a desire for self government. Here, the author refers to Palestinians being occupied by Israel. He insists that It’s natural for people to desire their own identity. Dr. Truxillo informs that it would be different if we were talking about 8 million Poles or Italians.

    Today, in America, the schools are supporting the Anti-American desires of illegal Latinos. These people, our uninvited guests, absolutely reject American rules and law. Masses of these people even refuse to learn English. Americans must adjust to them, not them to Americans!

    Next Darrell Ankario does some correlations. A property owner in Mexico was confronted by trespassers desiring to become homesteaders. When asked to leave they refused and the police enforced departure. Two days later they came back with reinforcements. Soon there were so many trespassers that the government had to back down. In the end trespassers owned the land. Perhaps similar things will happen in the USA. It will, if the anti-majority MSM continues its Camp of Saints altruistic indoctrination.

    Here illegals also have a right to be bold. When border control catches the invaders, illegals are given food and shelter and free phone cards. Under Obama, migration enforcement was nothing more than an anti-majority sham. Prior to Pres. Trump, the so-called Washington political “Reps” did nothing to protect the country from invasion. Within this book pictures are shown depicting barriers between the two countries. It’s almost as if the politicians are making a mockery out of the USA. It’s almost as if the US “Reps” had a sign in Spanish stating, “Bring in your guns, sex slaves and drugs…” Females having babies demand support.

    To secure a better perspective of the illegal dilemma, the author went into Mexico. He learned of abuse by networking gangs that actually bring illegals into the USA. On this side of the border illegals were renting houses and filling them with future sex slaves and invaders. He discovered that Banditos often kidnapped people from Coyotes. They held them for ransom. It’s was not uncommon to see corpses and female panties.

    The author speaks about attempts to solve problems with the Mexican government. The factor of extradition is mentioned. Mexico won’t allow horrendous murders to be extradited back to the US. Why? Because they might be executed. In 1986, after Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million illegals, citizens started to feel the pinch when a foreign language was forced upon them. The author feels that, with the number of illegals being as high as 38 million, the language factor has become more than pertinent. At this rate there is no question that the growing number of Hispanics we’ll be changing the political and cultural landscape of several metropolitan areas across the USA. We read nonwhites now make up the majority in about one third of over 3,000 US counties. The Alien population has become so large that the self-serving “Reps” are now fearful of discussing interests of the majority.

    A lot of the responsibility for the anti-Americanism, as indicated in this book, has to be laid upon the shoulders of President Bush. Bush invited the heads of Canada and Mexico to initiate the concept of a tri-country unit. It was for the integration of cultures, laws and courts. Obama exacerbated the problem. Americans have been re-educated to embrace the sham of the North American concept.

    Trailer trucks, full of “transfer” goods, travel through the three countries. Flow charts are referred to and there are thousands of pages of bureaucratic documents. Bureaucrats have built together a new trilateral entity. Info refers to NAFTA and the harms done to the US economy and culture. It’s a win win situation for the corporatist and multinational corporations (who feather the beds of politicos). At the same time as Mexico was shipping her uneducated impoverished message to the United States, President Bush admitted there were at least 12 million illegals here. To understand efforts to change demographics realize that three quarters of them came during his time in office. Pro Americans, who confronted Bush, were mockingly crushed. Because of Clinton, Bush and Obama’s fostering of the North American Union, parts of the US, in the not too distant future, might no longer be American.

    We read that the NYT has verified that Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) urged illegals to vote. In the 2004 elections Massachusetts, Illinois, North Carolina, California, and other states, watched as illegals voted. Illegal law breakers were told to simply use a social security number. It’s no secret that these are often purchased on the cheap. NY governor Spitzer said that people just have to show up to vote. Extra votes are a bonanza for liberal democrates. No wonder Billaryites carried some states.

    The political gains noted for the Washington “nobility,” are not advantageous for the country. Just touching upon the cost of the illegal burden, the author notes that the USA has spent over $1.4 billion dollars incarcerating illegal criminals. Local jurisdictions pick up about three quarters of the cost. Many towns are finding it difficult to balance the books due to Third World burdens. We’re told that about 50% of the incarcerated illegals have had previous convictions (many for violent offenses).

    Bureaucrats have found all kinds of ways to cover-up Minority crimes. They (also) play with demographic statistics. On the other hand ethnicity is pregnant when bureaucrats need reverse discrimination and entitlements. Read Dr. Martinelli’s book on unreported crimes. Professor David Anderson, has verified that the financial burden of illegals is more then $1.6 trillion.

    A state representative in Iowa, Steve King, said that 12 Americans are murdered every day by illegal immigrants, as 13 are killed by drunk alien drivers. A large percentage of fatal accidents involve drivers who lack a valid drivers license. The picture is very bleak. We read about police officers being harmed, carjacking and gang rapists. At the same time bureaucrats refuse to enforce law.

    In 2005 the US border control apprehended over 1.2 million illegals. Of those, only 165,000 were from countries other than Mexico. Homeland Security Director, Michael Chertoff, stressed that 85% of detained illegals would merely disappear into the general population once released. So much for the integrity and the morality of Mr. Chertoff. It’s almost as if he wished the country harm.

    During the time the author penned this book, foreign born Moslem men we’re plotting to destroy the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. Arabs were also teaching Mexicans how to cross the desert.

    A recent phenomenon is that anti-majority US judges have been adjudicating dangerous criminals according to foreign cultural laws. Criminal defense lawyers have used decisions that emanate from Africa. For some reason the author writes about Ruth Bader Ginsberg having been extremely harmful to the majority population (when it comes to illegals).
    -To be continue-

    As noted, Clinton and Bush were the fathers for the mechanism that’s destroying the USA. They have been the most pertinent in the creation and expansion of NAFTA. Also, that 1994 creation has been expanding extensive bureaucratic red tape. The NAFTA giant is sucking up jobs all around the US and making millions of Americans destitute.

    Obviously it is much cheaper to produce in Mexico than the US. American firms routinely send their products to Mexico to be assembled and returned to the USA. Even jobs that pay minimum wages, such as restaurant labor, are being absorbed by countless numbers of illegal Mexicans. Documentation shows that after one year of NAFTA, millions of American jobs disappeared to Mexico. Despite propaganda NAFTA has undoubtedly cost the American worker trillions of dollars.

    Indoctrination tells the American people that without illegal labour, parts of the US would shutdown. The book contains information about skilled workers, such as bricklayers, losing their jobs because Spanish speaking illegals can work for significantly lower wages. A mainstream newspaper even alleged that black children suffered 50% greater poverty, in the last 10 years, due to illegal immigration.

    Moreover, about 15 million jobs have gone underground. These aliens collect their wages underground. Millions more are getting squeezed out of their jobs by employers who wish to make more profits by using illegals. This situation is so bad that US firms are actually sending professionals to Mexico. Their chore: Train Mexicans in technical jobs so they can be transferred to the US. This will release American professionals with higher wages; illegals can take their place; firms can have greater profit.

    Next the author compares Europeans, who came here legally and had to jump through hoops, apply for green cards, wait for five years and be abused by bureaucrats. These people had to wait in lines, fill out forms, provide all kinds of background information, etc. If this is compared to treatment accorded to Third World elements, the results would be more than shocking. This shows how far the lying media has gone in successful anti-majority propaganda.

    When an illegal reaches retirement age he will obtain more than $10 for every dollar paid in taxes. These elements use social security supplements and Medicaid, while having paid little or nothing into the system. This factor alone cost the American people over $2.5 trillion. The propaganda apparatus propagates indoctrination about Social Security not being available in the future. It’s not emphasized that one of the major burdens eating away at American society is that which has just been noted. All this is due to self-serving politicians, fearful of the liberal media, that could stop re-election.

    The author tells us about medical testing done in Alabama. It was during 2007. Health officials checked out one of America’s top poultry plants. Over 700 workers we’re tested. No fewer than 20% were deemed to have tuberculosis. There are numerous other diseases becoming prevalent. Over 30% of the public health patients in Los Angeles County are illegal immigrants.

    George Borjas, a Harvard professor, estimates that in one single year illegal aliens deprived US workers of more than $133 billion in wages and that figure is astronomically growing. The author gives an example of the incredible astronomical harm that is being inflicted upon the United States because of so-called political representation. In the year 2003 US citizens paid $27 billion just to provide forms, ballots, and Interpreters for languages other than English.

    Third World illegals are causing entire sections of the US to become poverty-stricken. The statistics of regions turning into poverty-stricken areas, due to the illegals, is shocking. Darrell Ankarlo refers to Arizona, Colorado, Texas, and other regions that are being drastically affected due to entitlements and anonymous burdens upon first world communities. We learn that one out of three people without health insurance is either an immigrant or a child born of such parents. Adequate data indicates that much of the riffraff from Mexico has come to the USA and are riding on the backs of first world citizens.

    As for political horror, the author goes into deep detail about Senator John McCain. He mentions that McCain is accorded the status of a war hero. He also verifies that McCain has constantly dodged inquiries pertaining to illegal immigration. For a long time McCain prospered the idea of amnesty. We read that he is a blatant liar, or has failed memory. He has flip-flopped on questions pertaining to illegals. When Senator McCain ran for president he realized the vast majority of Americans reject amnesty and also illegal immigration. Thus, he went with the flow.

    On the other side we see Senator John Kyl (R- Ariz.). He has in fact stated that American citizens don’t have any faith in their political Reps’ ability to win a war, enforce border security, or even process simple passport requests. The situation of enforcing the law has become dubious. The author refers to those marching in 2006. Thousands, all predominately Latino, in front of cameras, were yelling that they are illegal. It seems illegals not only don’t fear breaking the law, but feel so-called political representatives are at their back; self-serving “Reps” protect them against legal American citizens. These are facts. This implies congressmen are not only self-serving and pass laws for their benefit, but also anti-majority.

    The author believes that the only way to save the USA is to have all local governments print official documents only in English. If translators are required that should be the obligation of those requesting such. Darrell asserts that businesses insisting they need illegals to function, should not be in a position to threaten law or the morality of this country. The reason an ocean of money is used for bureaucratic translation services is because President Clinton signed an executive order (13166) into law demanding that anti-majority outrageous endeavor.

    By mid 2007 areas in USA created more than 171 regulations in an attempt to slow the flow of illegal aliens harming this country. According to the author, state governments did not learn how to stop passing the buck and start representing the communities that they allegedly “represent.” Illegals have joined forces with the ACLU and others to fight against the will of the American people.

    The author believes that Americans should have several new military bases on the border to protect this country. Also there needs to be stiffer penalties for illegals. There needs to be, retina scans in addition to fingerprinting. If a person commits a crime and cannot pay, he/she should work for the county in which he/she was arrested, until the penalty is paid.

    The author also believes they should be no handouts or entitlements for illegals. We should apply serious diplomatic pressure to create industries and jobs in their country. If that s done, perhaps they won’t come here and attempt to coerce their language and culture upon US citizens. If La CessPool Grande were to follow Darrell Ankarlo’s ideology, the concern would be to have migrants who benefit the USA.

  239. Feryl says: • Website
    @KenH

    Illinois is only 60% white and is hemorrhaging productive white residents yearly due to the gross mismanagement by the Democrats and looming fiscal cliff. White Republican Bruce Rauner attempted to get the state’s finances in order by cutting some of the free stuff that blacks and Latinos relied on and other Democrat vote buying schemes but those have all been fully restored by the new ultra left wing Jewish governor J.B. Pritzker. Rauner was blocked on other reforms by the Chicago Democrat mafia who run the state house.

    I have two newer neighbors who fled Illinois. One of them is Chinese American, about 40 years old. The other is a generic Midwestern white guy, also around the age of 40. They both have families, and I haven’t had any problems with these people.

  240. Lots of people saying Hispanics are anti-Anglo, and that may be true but as far as I can see most white Americans have an anti-Anglo mentality these days as well. White Americans tend to blame the British for all the negative aspects of their history, such as the slaughter of native Americans and the Atlantic slave trade, etc, even when the reality is they as the settlers are the ones to blame historically speaking.

    You also won’t hear many white Americans claiming Anglo ancestry these days, they like to claim just about any identity OTHER than Anglo. America is the country that funded the IRA, the American view on Northern Ireland is almost entirely from the Irish Republican perspective. You will almost never hear an American take the side of Britain/Ulster Protestants. I wonder if a lot of the reason Hispanics in the US are anti-Anglo because they are just copying the prevailing mentality in America which is anti-Anglo, I would also think that the fact almost all of them are Catholic makes them particularly disposed to being anti-Anglo.

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    , @Alden
  241. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    “That’s because the white conquerors displayed a degree of magnanimity towards the vanquished Indians.”

    I didn’t realize that Europeans brutally conquering Native Americans, taking their land and resources, and extending a helping hand by demanding they learn Christianity and English equates to benevolence and altruism. Thanks for clarifying!

    “It’s highly doubtful that an utterly defeated white population will be extended the same courtesies and consideration.”

    So, if you are deathly afraid of white people being demoralized, why not do something about it other than lamenting on a blog? It would seem that if truly cared about “your kind”, you would make personal sacrifices to ensure the race that you love would be better off in the future. Otherwise, you come across as being selfish, i.e. where is the free stuff and gimmedats?

  242. KenH says:

    I didn’t realize that Europeans brutally conquering Native Americans, taking their land and resources, and extending a helping hand by demanding they learn Christianity and English equates to benevolence and altruism. Thanks for clarifying!

    But Indians brutally conquering and enslaving other Indians, taking their land, women and resources was oh so romantic, right? The Indians were ignorant about the resource richness of the land they occupied. In your next post you’ll probably claim they discovered oil and modern farming techniques.

    It wasn’t perfect but Indians have their own sovereign territory and there’s more of them living today than when hostilities ended between the white settlers and Indians. Do you think whites will be granted sovereign ethno-states in America if and when they become a politically powerless minority?

    Conquest and displacement of native populations has been going on since time immemorial and all races and most religions are guilty of it, but you act like only whites are.

  243. baythoven says:
    @England patriot

    “White Americans tend to blame the British for all the negative aspects of their history, such as the slaughter of native Americans and the Atlantic slave trade, etc, even when the reality is they as the settlers are the ones to blame historically speaking.”

    Oh baloney. Don’t you know that’s just elitist indoctrination? Regular Americans like regular Brits a lot more than you seem to think.
    Still, I think they like the Irish more. Ha ha!

    (Just btw, I claim both, my English as well as Irish ancestry.)

  244. “college educated whites” Thats funny considering all those cucks who did that I know are living at home with daddy were ahighly visible minority on campus and most are pampered cucks and shitheads who want you to work for free….from my own personal experience college going whites are mentally retarded and willing agents of the jewish system and love their low totem status because it provides them their mcmansion

  245. @Flint Clint

    jews receive 99% of the 50 billion DHS grants, and that free money ahole jumping around with the dollar signs in those sick mental ads for “free money” back in the 2000’s didn’t tell you those thousands of “programs” were specifically anti white…plus the anti white tax code which give tax subsidies for hiring non-whites.

  246. @Counterinsurgency

    Trump is jewish and doing nothing to stop the illegal wave period stop lying with this fake “liberal” conservative smatheric hegelian nonsense

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  247. Medvedev says:
    @Cathy

    Be careful what you wish for. Homicide rate
    Turkey – 4.31
    US – 5.30
    Mexico – 24.80
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

  248. Medvedev says:
    @Americano

    large number of third generation Hispanics self-identify as “White-Only,” it is clear that the Hispanics % is probably much higher

    I call this BS. Hispanic has to be dumb as brick to self-identify as White and miss on the opportunity to secure grants/scholarships/lower admissions standards/etc.

  249. Medvedev says:

    Agree, White can live, co-exist and prosper in places like Latin America (Vincente Fox is a great example) despite high crime rates and corruption. But it is close to impossible to fully assimilate in places like S.Korea or Japan, where you’ll always be treated like alien.

  250. Medvedev says:
    @M Krauthammar

    I know you’re just a troll 🙂
    But let’s assume a hypothetical situation that you describe. Then why doesn’t this woman move to beautiful place like Wakanda in Africa? And enjoy first-class infrastructure, mingle with mighty and smart Wakandians instead of living with old evil dying White people?
    Let me guess … because most Sub-Saharan countries are sh*tholes with decrepit infrastructure, where having access to a fresh sanitary water is a miracle ))))

  251. @baythoven

    I thought part of Mexico was conquered: Texas (in the First Texan War for Slavery after Santa Anna abolished slavery), Southern Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, California. Do those names even sound English?

    Don’t US schools teach US history? I honestly wouldn’t know; I’m Australian. What about a more interesting history argument? What about the French dictatorship’s nation building effort in the 13 colonies after France won control of the Atlantic for a few months? Washington used French cannons, powder and shot and had the support of French troops. I suppose the French would have provided money as well (they weren’t stupid and that’s a normal part of nation building). The move from wanting the vote to independence was inevitable with complete dependence on the French King; he wanted to weaken the British Empire not strengthen it.

    I can’t claim to be an expert; I don’t even know how long Washington’s dictatorship lasted before the reversion to English norms. How long was it before a US election was allowed? How lucky was the USA that France lost control of the Atlantic so quickly?

    They weren’t lucky that the UK realised that they had always subsidized the 13 colonies. Everybody in the UK already knew that. The demand for partial payment of the cost of their defence was reasonable and it was the lowest taxation the USA has ever enjoyed. However, the demand for no taxation without representation was a normal British value and widely supported in the UK and was completely alien to the French King. [email protected]

  252. @Urban Moving

    Trump is jewish and doing nothing to stop the illegal wave period stop lying with this fake “liberal” conservative smatheric hegelian nonsense

    Well, there’s a convincing argument.

    Counterinsurgency

  253. @MEFOBILLS

    A subtlety important not to overlook:

    It was all about making money as if prices are the only thing that matters – this monetizing everything into a price is a peculiarly Jewish construct.

    With no moral considerations other than the strong propensity toward immorality.

    You’ve set out the necessary plan for implementation once the parasites are neutralized:

    The above is why universal suffrage democracy run by finance capital, is a failed system and makes for clown world. A proper patriarchy run by sober (GOYIM) men who control the money power is the Logos and is what is required for high civilization.

    Including identifying the dangers to be avoided as learned from the current situation:

    The founders did not secure the money power with enough safeguards, nor did they provide for balancing forces such as jubilees and prohibitions against immigration of hostile in-groups. The founders did not secure the polity against predators, and psychopaths. The founders did not constitutionally forbid unmarried childless women from voting. The bad guy ruling class (mostly finance elites) have even figured out how to stop the amendment process so they can keep their ill gotten gains.

  254. @JoannF

    With the higher Jews feverishly intent on destroying the host (yet again) with uncontrolled legal and illegal immigrants while we have “I stand with Israel” bumper stickers ; as drag queens teach “tolerance” to toddlers as they prepare the country for a slow acceptance of pedophilia (as dictated to them by the higher yours); as every form of degeneracy and perversion are enthusiastically pushed by the (((powers that be ))) while we falsely (and stupidly) cling to the .38 in the drawer, do you think this is a society worth saving?

    I’d rather the undoing happens sooner than latter so we have a decent chance of rebuilding. But they are boiling the proverbial frog slowly although they’ve become a bit more emboldened off late, seeing how static we already are

  255. @MEFOBILLS

    Humans are a rent seeking animal. It is the very few Humans who are highly moral and will do things against their own self interest if there is a higher moral purpose. (Tend to be whites – due to race differences.)

    This with the moral purpose of obeying the tenets expressed by God Incarnate Jesus is the foundation of all the prosperity developed by Western Civilization aka Christendom.

    It is not hateful to say, and in fact hate must be set aside so all can recognize the reality: Whitey is The Golden Goose.

  256. @JoannF

    When you move to Portugal or Spain you are no longer a German. Your insane idea to import violent latino’s to Germany is proof of that sudden transformation. Already you think like a slave.

  257. Aft says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Perhaps Ron will want to do some surname analysis on this: http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

    Smith is the most common last name in the United States, followed by Johnson, Miller, Jones, Williams, and Anderson

    A grand total of ZERO of these names appear on the list.

    But there are 3 Ruiz, 3 Diaz, 4 Gonzalez, and even a couple of Gutierrez…

  258. Aft says:
    @Flint Clint

    More data:

    During 2015–2016, the age-adjusted homicide rate for the total population increased from 5.7 to 6.2 per 100,000 standard population (an 8.8% increase). The rate increased from 2.6 to 2.9 (11.5%) for non-Hispanic whites, from 20.9 to 22.8 (9.1%) for non-Hispanic blacks, and from 4.9 to 5.3 (8.2%) for Hispanics. In both years, the homicide rate for non-Hispanic blacks was approximately eight times the rate for non-Hispanic whites and four times the rate for Hispanics.

    Source: National Vital Statistics System, underlying cause of death data, 1999–2016. https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.htm

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6715a8.htm

  259. Alden says:
    @England patriot

    Most Hispanics are totally unaware that N Ireland is part of the UK. They think the entire Island is part of the Republic. They’ve never heard of the IRA. They don’t know England occupied Ireland for hundreds of years.

    They couldn’t find Ireland and England on a map. They are unaware of the term Anglo. They use the term White for all Whites.

  260. @Dart

    They are B grade hacks. They serve up pseudo pretentious prattle as Oscar bait. Also, del toro is seriously white.

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