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Young right-leaning Jews don’t have many Jewish figures to look up to. Illustrious elder scholar and “alt right godfather” Paul Gottfried. Taki columnist and revisionist David Cole Stein. Brilliant neoreactionary thinker and half-Jew Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug).

But thankfully we now have Stephen Miller, the 32-year old Trump advisor and immigration hard-liner recently blamed by Democratic senators for scuttling their desired amnesty deal for illegal immigrants. Transparently, the Dems are trying to spoil Trump’s relationship with Miller, as they did with Bannon, by insinuating that Miller is pulling Trump’s strings. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man. But Miller is a crucially important figure in the Trump administration and his influence is, from what I can tell, entirely positive for the interest of Americans concerned with mass immigration and the very tangible threat of Europeans and people of European descent becoming minorities in their own countries.

Jews, and Americans overall, need more Stephen Millers. Brash, unafraid, quick-witted, verbally formidable, and unabashedly “America First,” Miller is a powerful spokesman for economic nationalist positions, anti-globalism, and for preserving this country’s original culture and people against the Democratic scheme to flood it with illegal and legal immigrants whose main gift to America will be their reliable Democratic votes in every future election. Miller is roundly despised by the establishment for his positions and rhetoric. Nancy Pelosi has called Miller a “White supremacist,” while others on the left have compared him to Joseph Goebbels. He’s the only Jew I can think of offhand that the mainstream media actively encourages the country to hate.

But we Jews should be honest: for every mensch like Miller, we have shmucks like Tim Wise, Noel Ignativ, Rob Reiner, Charles Schumer, and thousands of other high-profile Jews who seem to hate or fear White Christian Americans and seek to hasten their demise as the ethnic majority of this country. Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC — powerful well-funded groups who conduct witch hunts against anyone who dares speak out against multiculturalism, open-borders, globalist doctrine, or who dares to criticize Jews. Jewish political influence in the US is still overwhelmingly negative, despite the great work of a few good Jews.

As an American (first) and Jew (second) who supports Trump and Trumpism, the European New Right, and anyone concerned with the long-term impacts of mass immigration, I want to see more Jews, particularly younger, Generation Z Jews move to our ideological side. I have tried to explore my own motivations for this. Why do I find myself so far to the Right on the issue of immigration and of protecting European cultures and peoples? Why do I hope other Jews follow me on this ideological journey? And there is growing indication they are.

First of all, it has nothing to do with being “self-hating”, a common but largely asinine Jewish slur used against Jews who step out of line. I neither hate myself or Jews collectively. Like many non-Jewish critics of Jews, I just want Jews to stop attacking Europeans and their descendants in their former colonies by pushing destructive ideologies and policies.

Secondly, I agree with the major criticism of Jews and certainly of Jewish activists: that they seek to do what they think is good for Jews, while hiding their ethnocentrism by pretending their interests are universalist. Self-interest is often disguised as “tikun olam,” bringing light to the world.

Most importantly, accepting some of the recent critique of the JQ, or the Jewish role in the West’s current situation — without thinking the situation is simple, monocausal, or part of a grand conspiracy, I view it as important to think about what Jews can do positively in the current year.

It seems clear that ethnic Jewish activists in the 20th century had a conscious or subconscious fear of European Christians maintaining their ethnic or cultural identities, and this manifested itself in the various movements MacDonald brilliantly analyzes in the Culture of Critique: the anthropology of race, psychoanalysis, communism, the Frankfort School and Cultural Marxism. When Jewish activists pushed through immigration reform in the US, the effects were absolutely transformative. Jews largely achieved their goals, or maybe even surpassed them. Now, more than 50 years later, we can re-examine the question: was this actually good for the Jews?

To me the answer to this question is a resounding NO. To look at just one simple factor: the people pouring into the US in recent years are no more Jew-friendly then the White Americans who made up almost 90% of the county in 1960 were. In fact, they are likely to be considerably less Jew friendly. Mexicans have no special relationship with Jews or with Israel. Neither do Somalis, or Syrians, or Afghans, or MS-13. Identity-politics obsessed leftist college activists have already made it quite clear that Jews who side against them are to be viewed as White s — their Jewishness will not protect them. This trend will continue, and Jews will become Whites in the eyes of the many people who hate Whites. However different things may have looked to our parents’ or grandparents’ generation, there is no tangible benefit today to ordinary American Jews today from the importation of quarter of Mexico’s population, or to ordinary French Jews from a million new Muslims. To think otherwise is to deny reality.

A main motivation for Jewish activism on immigration and other related issues was Jewish fear of being a major outgroup in American society. Perhaps these fears may have seemed real in the wake of the Second World War, or perhaps even then they were delusional. Today, they seem absurd. Maybe it is a generational thing, or maybe my Jewish identification is too weak, or maybe it was the context I grew up in; but I just can’t understand American Jews having feelings of fear or hostility towards White Christian Americans in general. I grew up around White Christians; work with them; live amongst them; and count many as friends, neighbors, colleagues or teachers. Jewish neurosis or not, a generalized Jewish fear of American Whites is, in my view, insane. Granted, things could change in the future if we reach such a desperate state that American Whites begin to focus on some of the negative influence Jews have had in changing their society, and collectively determine to do something about it. But flooding the country with immigrants doesn’t lessen the possibility that will happen. Quite the opposite, it increases it.

Given that, what is really best for the Jews? As American Whites slowly begin to wake up to the reality of their own ethnic interests, what kind of Jews do we want as our representatives in the public sphere: Stephen Miller or Charles Schumer?

From my point of view, what is “best for the Jews” is to realize that while Jewish elites have been pushing a corrosive and destructive agenda for 50 years or more, the rest of us are under no obligation to support it. Being Jewish doesn’t mean one has to be a leftist or multiculturalist booster, or work to disenfranchise White majorities in traditionally White countries. Stephen Miller is proof of that.

But there is another response to the question “what is good for the Jews?” that is also worth serious consideration by American Jews. The response is: who cares? Seriously, look at the current state of Jews in America. Jews have an extremely disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group in the country. I don’t allege any conspiracy here. Jews’ tendency to position ourselves close to power is well described in Benjamin Ginsberg’s The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State. Jews have high IQs and are excellent verbalists, and obviously Jewish nepotism exists as well. While I abhor the contemporary politicized notion of “privilege” that minority groups use to cover up their lack of rational argument, it would be dishonest to not admit that if there is a privileged ethnic group in the US today, that group is not Whites as a whole, but Jews.

It is impossible to look at the situation objectively and not see that generally things have been going very well for American Jews, and certainly for Jewish elites, for some time. There is thus no reason to spend time and energy thinking about what is good for the Jews. Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.

There are abundant reasons however to worry about the welfare of Europeans and people of European descent. The migration crisis in Europe and the reality of looming major demographic increases in Africa and the Middle East that could drive much larger waves of migrants are rapidly creating a potential future in which entire peoples could become minorities in their own countries. In the US, demographic changes due to migration and considerably higher fertility rates among immigrants will alter the country permanently unless drastic changes to immigration policies are made. Jews need to focus our “tikun olam” on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe, and the neo-Europes. In Stephen Miller we see a Jew who seems to understand what needs to be done. There is no reason other American Jews can’t follow his lead.

In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Randal says:

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?

    Well one thing that would be nice would be more organised and high profile jewish rejection of the pursuit by so many of their well-funded representatives of anti-free speech laws and prosecutions.

    The initially private prosecution of Alison Chabloz by jewish identity lobby organisations for merely posting a song to the internet represented a new low, and jewish opposition to this crime against liberty committed in their name has been disorganised and muted. And jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting “holocaust denial” and “antiracist” speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream jewish organisations.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let’s see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for “holocaust denial” laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don’t like.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An obvious admission that the 'holocaust' storyline doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny. https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    Only lies need to be shielded from debate, truth welcomes it.


    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
     
    , @lavoisier

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let’s see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for “holocaust denial” laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don’t like.
     
    Unlikely to happen.

    Instead, what may be a little less unlikely is for the average voter to wake up to the reality that our constitution is under assault, and not just by the Jews. While they are invariably the pied pipers leading the assault on our nation and its people, far too many of our so called elected leaders are full on board with the program as well--bought and paid for whores. If the average American understood what was happening today he or she might wake up and do something about it.

    Our leaders need to start fearing us-- that we KNOW that they are, with few exceptions, treacherous slime serving their masters and mammon.

    Will it happen?

    Unlikely without a significant economic shock I fear.

    I can only hope. But as the rot at the core of our so called Republic becomes ever more obvious even to the most obtuse American, battle lines will start to form.
    , @jack daniels
    During the Cold War Jews were fond of quoting Voltaire in defense of free speech for Communists. They have always been defenders of sexy children's books, porn and blasphemous art. Apart from that they are the chief force driving the disappearance of free speech in Europe and, as far as possible, here. They also are big fans of pan-surveillance, nanny-government, thought-reform (diversity training etc.) blacklisting, ostracism, draconian punishments for thought-crimes but mild punishments for ordinary murder.
    If you stop to think about it, all these characteristics leverage their strengths and compensate for their weaknesses. They are long on brains and wealth and short on numbers, and they are a religious minority. Their brains and wealth allow them to buy access and apply power at the top. As a former Jewish professor of mine put it, "A man you can buy is a man you can trust. The people you have to fear are the people you can't buy."

    Tucker Carlson: The NSA shouldn't read everyone's mail.
    Charles Krauthammer: Well, you're a libertarian.
    Tucker Carlson: I'm an American.

    , @Tyrion 2
    American style free speech is not a mainstream position in Britain. The prosecution of Alison Chabloz would surprise people here even less were the targets of her 'humour' any other minority group than Jewish.

    Your attempt to 'call out' Jewish hypocrisy by comparing the actions of British Jews to American Jews while neglecting to mention the British context is typical of thise site. One person makes an ignorant but plausible to the ignorant argument. The other maniacs have their prejudices confirmed and chime in their merry agreement.

    To out it simply: were this weird Chabloz woman to sing a similar song but about Muslims in Britain, she'd already be in prison, and her imprisonment would be uncontroversial.
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  2. Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

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    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, Rurik
    • Replies: @SnakeEyes
    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.
    , @Anonymous
    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw--nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.
    , @Monty Ahwazi
    For us to resolve and to identify the responsible people behind 9/11, we must look internally specially amongst the gang of neoconservatives who first have the best interest of Israel in their hearts! They knew that can cheer GWB/Cheney in achieving their goals! But one has to give the neoconservative gang credit because thus far they have accomplished what they had planned!
    , @Miro23

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.
     
    I don't doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump's "America First" and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was - used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).
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  3. 36 ulster says:

    Bravo! Nailed it!!

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    Look you said a lot of things many of us have been wanting to hear for so long and yeah we notice the stephen millers but for every one of them there's not a time wise there's a hundred thousand tim wise. Youre right it was and is insane to treat us like the enemy, and its definitely good for the jews to stop doing that now that its apparent we are about to lose our shit on the left.But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again. and i think the only way to find out will test you beyond your breaking point.so you might be better just slipping out quietly now. theres physically speaking no reason the jews that have been with us for a couple thousand years are any less white than say greeks. and you have contributed as much as any other 'whites' to west civ. but you have never seen yourselves as such and so we can never see you as such.I dont worry when the greeks are worrying about whats good for the greek i tend to cheer their cultural preservation on as a conservative i like to see culture which is always granular preserved.I even cheer the hasid warring with the hipster chicks in williamsburg, But thats not what we are talking about. part of what makes you jews jews is this uber otherness, and while it can be admired in a lot of ways it means i can never not understand jews 2% having half the power and half the wealth is an other overclass, and that's simply untenable. It can not stand.so along with taking hits this late in the game by SJWs are you willing to end your jewishness, whats needed is to obliterate the ability to think of ones self as jewish, that must be illegal and jews must be forced to marry out and until sufficiently blended genetically not allowed to hold positions of national interest.maybe if you had written what you wrote and it was taken up by a majority of jews a few decades earlier but what you have done is worse than the holocaust by orders of magnitude, and frankly your war with germany was as far as I can tell the exact same situation you overstepped their subverted their culture and economy and then tried to export your murderous revolution from russia and got a sound thrashing. So what this time you see the reaction coming and think like moldbug youll form a loyal opposition to yourself like some munstein by proxy no thanks unless yopure willing to be subsumed into white dna once and for all just please leave
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  4. Unlike most real Jews, ‘Marcus Alethia’ can’t spell (Ignatiev) and considers Tim Wise an example of American Jewry. (Wise is one quarter Jewish, all on his father’s side, is anti-Zionist, and is married to a Gentile). He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return, but wouldn’t go there.

    ‘Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC ‘. Evidently he also believes that Morris Dees is Jewish too.

    The word ‘aletheia’ by the way was mostly used in modern times by Heidegger, another giveaway that ‘Alethia’ isn’t Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

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    • Replies: @Issac
    A diasporatic sounds reasonable and all of a sudden the rabble are toting pitchforks and looking to accuse him of being a crypto gentile. What a useless lot you are. G-d help us; as I'm sure more of you will be making aliyah in the near future to escape the consequence of your actions.
    , @Karl
    4 anony-mouse > He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return


    not really true. The determination is made by the Ministry of Interior bureaucrats, who ==did== let in the spouses and children of the Russian octoroons (or is it octokikes?). Some were only granted Permanent Residence, but all of those who applied for citizenship (lots of Russians never do) eventually got it.

    Just like everyplace else in the world, having an experienced immigration lawyer on your side often gets you what you want, if you are not a flagrant "bad apple". There's about half a dozen attornyies in Tel Aviv who only do immigration cases.

    Ask the Filipinos in South Tel Aviv. ' Plenty of them are out of status, but none (that I've heard of) of them has been deported in 6-7 years. And its now official that originally-got-admitted-legally mothers of kids in a Hebrew-speaking school, will not get deported

    The got-admitted-legally is what diferentiates the Filipinas from the Africans. The africans got here by jumping the fence, as it were
    , @Mokiki
    Moriss Dee's partner in crime is Joseph G. Levin Jr.
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  5. Well this is a breath of fresh air.

    Not only do we need more Stephen Millers, we need more Marcus Alethias.

    Excellent article.

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    Excellent article.
     
    it is, but these are

    In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

     

    just a wet dreams, they will as always to chop a branch on which they are sittting. They always did.
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  6. AaronB says:

    Europeans don’t really need Jews to help them, they just need them to step aside while they fix the cultural mistakes that got them into trouble.

    It was like kicking a man while he’s down, and it’s good that it will stop.

    However, what Jews do in the end is irrelevant. Whites need to fix their own culture. And there are clear signs that this is happening, which is why Jews are starting to write sycophantic articles like this.

    Let’s be honest. Some Jews are beginning to realize that whites are waking up, and so of course are now trying to offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear. It’s classic tactics when you’re losing.

    Articles like this are indications of Jewish fear, nothing more. This article is also tellingly saturated with Jewish arrogance, as if they’re the decisive factor. In reality, it’s a desperate bid to avoid being sidelined.

    Let’s be further honest. No Jew who hasn’t repudiated his identity can really act for any interests other than Jewish, whatever he tells himself. That’s what it means to identify as a Jew. Only a Jew who repudiates his identity can, and even then there are suspicions.

    Whites will have to act like Israel. In Israel, non-jews can sometimes attain high positions, but in limited numbers, and not the highest (prime minister or mossad chief, for instance, are off the table).

    Whites would be fools who learn nothing from history if they now accept Jewish “help”. How many times whites can be fooled will soon be seen. In other words, if whites are truly revitalized or not, will soon be seen.

    The new white dispensation can accommodate Jews in a limited fashion, as extremely junior partners in small numbers, of proven loyalty, but will have to take measures to exclude Jews from public and economic life in any prominent capacity, much as Israel does to non-Jews.

    We should emphatically NOT wish for more Jewish figures like Miller. That he is, now, necessary at all is because this is a transitional situation.

    Whites – don’t be idiots yet again. But I don’t think you will.

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    • Replies: @Ragno
    Well said, but...... I wonder what sort of reality you live in. From the tone of your remarks, you would think that whites can openly converse in this manner anywhere in the public square - discuss and argue the major issues, and the short- and long-range trajectory, of white society in majority-white nations, without fear of censorship or criminalization or overnight Unperson status. Now me, I see nothing of the kind; further, I no longer see even the pretense of gentile self-determination as anything but a cautionary horror story Jews tell each other - and their favored-nation minority "purse puppies" - around the metaphoric campfire, to reinforce once again the absolute necessity of maintaining complete control of public information and allowable discourse.

    "Jews are beginning to ....offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear....classic tactics when you’re losing" just seems like further delusion; if anything, such a diagnosis smacks more of the psychological coping tactics of a beaten people too addicted to their rapidly-dwindling levels of both creature comfort and self-respect to honestly audit their situation and future prospects, and acknowledge that they are rapidly-dwindling.

    Without regaining control of our institutions, and the vigorous exercising of our cultural hegemony inside our immediate spheres of influence - our nations, certainly, but first and foremost our communities, our streets, our homes and our relationships with one another, you may rest assured that any outsider's "sympathy and aid" will be just as genuine as their "fear". Who could possibly fear a people so myopically passive-aggressive that they can be talked out of their self-interest and conned into surrendering their natural sovereignty...for ANY reason....and without a shot fired?

    Possibly the Martians, or a colony of Shmoo - but no canny desert tribe of any stripe would see anything but easy pickings.
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  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don’t make up for almost being wiped out like that.

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    So you're pro-White Genocide? Is that correct?
    , @Leisure Larry
    No, the Jews did not come close to being wiped out by the Europeans. The Jewish Almanac said that there was basically no change in global Jewish population.
    , @Wally
    Absurd propaganda that people are finally awakening to.
    Jews were pouring out of Europe, went everywhere after WWII.
    There is zero proof for the impossible '6M Jews'.

    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    , @Issac
    So thoroughly wiped out that we regained our ancestral homeland and grew our population like never before amid rising to international prominence. Alas this misfortune!
    , @plonialmoni
    You are saying that Jews should annihilate the rest of mankind. On top of that you are perpetuating a lie as your justification. Who has no shame?
    , @Bill jones
    The bullshit never ends, does it? The world is full of self proclaimed
    holohoax survivors. Many of whom seem to have lived into their 80's and 90's . It seems to have been quite a keep fit scheme.
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  8. What is important for Jews?
    There is no less simple question. Important fact what count is to be on the winning side.
    Regardless if Whites will be minority, If the whites really will get angry than nothing will stop them.
    The rainbow coalition will be wiped out in no time, and if the Jews will be with Rainbow coalition they will be wiped out also,
    Well you say that cannot happen in US democracy.
    Well I would say, I WOULD NOT BET ON IT.

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  9. AaronB says:

    BTW, this a real time example of how Jews have survived so well down the centuries.

    The tide is now shifting and some Jews are cautiously feeling out ways to align themselves with the emerging power configurations.

    You are witnessing in real time things that have been discussed here only in theory. It’s pretty cool.

    Don’t fall for it. Don’t buy it. Don’t be eternal fools.

    As human beings, not as Jews, Jews should be accommodated – but cautiously, from a distance, in a controlled manner, on your terms.

    Most Jews – who identify as Jews rather than simple humans – should probably go to Israel and not try and “help” whites.

    Self-identified Jews who choose to stay should act with honesty and integrity and recuse themselves from prominent roles in public life -
    knowing full well their Jewish affiliation cannot allow them to be disinterested.

    Jews who are willing to be absorbed in the human race may be cautiously accommodated, perhaps.

    But no large scale Jewish “help” can be desired or accepted. And

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    • Replies: @Leisure Larry
    Jews.
    Help.
    Whites.

    Same sentence.

    My computer just burst into flames.

    "Help the Gentiles." is the opposite of what the Talmud commands.
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  10. Jason Liu says:

    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they’re trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they’re just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They’re often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

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    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.
     
    Completely unnecessary. Jewish brainpower is dwarfed by white brainpower. Do the math with population numbers and mean IQ.

    Brainpower is not the issue with whites.

    Also, if, as I suspect is happening, Jews are on the verge of entering a decadent phase, than Jewish brainpower will decline, as it's as much a question of motivation as ability.
    , @Toby Keith
    The Jewish God has commanded Jews to subjugate the Gentile world and exterminate all who resist.

    Whites don't need that kind of "help".

    And Whites don't need "Jewish brainpower."

    Really, that is why Jews hate us: Our flat IQ distribution shows that we produce plenty of our own geniuses (genii), and Jewish supremacist ideology will not forgive us for that.
    , @neutral

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence.
     
    The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist. Even jews like Stephan Miller are not be trusted, his main concern is the long run safety of Israel, he believes that a non white America and Europe is bad for Israel, while the majority of jews think it is good for Israel and the jews in general. I tend to agree with the leftist views on this one, a non white world would be better for the jews because it would easier (mostly) to sedate multiracial states with pop culture and money worship than it is with homogeneous white states.
    , @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    Over at Chateau Heartiste, Mr. Roissy —not widely known as a fanboi of, or world-class apologist for, the Jooooos— posted some months ago the s'pozedly valid statistic that 58.8% of self-identified married Joooo-ish cisgender males voted for Trump. If that's for real, could it be yet another Joooo-ish scam to fool the dimwitted, emasculated "soyim" (another great neologism from Roissy!)?
    , @Maple Curtain
    It's got nothing to do with right/left, and everything to do with Jew/cattle.

    They give no quarter; they shall get no quarter.
    , @MarkinLA
    It is hard peeling off some members when some issues to them are non-negotiable. Take the holocaust. You can have NO deviation from the official story. You can't even have a discussion. I am an agnostic on the issue since it is something I care not one whit about and am largely ignorant of and don't care to study it so I don't listen to either side. However, Jews on the subject are quite psychotic about it - even diaspora Jews who lost nobody to it.

    A Jew will always find some holocaust skeptic in any crowd. For them that means the whole group and everything they stand for is illegitimate.

    I have had my comments flagged and removed on supposedly conservative sites as "hateful" simply for posting that -"I don't care about the holocaust and the US had nothing to do with it so doesn't need to endlessly beg for forgiveness".

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  11. Wally says:
    @Randal

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?
     
    Well one thing that would be nice would be more organised and high profile jewish rejection of the pursuit by so many of their well-funded representatives of anti-free speech laws and prosecutions.

    The initially private prosecution of Alison Chabloz by jewish identity lobby organisations for merely posting a song to the internet represented a new low, and jewish opposition to this crime against liberty committed in their name has been disorganised and muted. And jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting "holocaust denial" and "antiracist" speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream jewish organisations.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let's see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for "holocaust denial" laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don't like.

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An obvious admission that the ‘holocaust’ storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny. https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    Only lies need to be shielded from debate, truth welcomes it.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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  12. Yah, just a bit of mixin’ and matchin’, soon the Jew and the Goy be one. This be mixed into an over/under parlay bet with a N & S Korea snuggle up, American woman lay down law for her man, and lion lay down with the lamb. Good luck.

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    Hear, hear!

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  14. SnakeEyes says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

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    Apparently the guys who set up equipment to record the event were Irish, same as the "art students" squatting in the buildings with cases of detonators, that Silverstein dude is as Irish as they come don't you know? So much more... but were they Irish? I forget... You should look into it, but I expect you already know what I'm on about. Better keep hoping this overreach isn't the proverbial straw...
    , @Anon
    Don't bother with him. He's one of those who thinks there was some manipulative genius in the ether that could plan to have Cheney and Rumsfeld insane but so firmly in control that plausible reason for bombing Afghanistan could be reliably turned into an invasion of Iraq to further an Israeli plan to Balkanise the ME. He probably thinks that such clear thinking plotters would toss in the gratuitous demolition of WTC7 as well....
    , @Anon
    Don't worry about him. He's probsbly one of those who credits some brilliant plotters with such Machievellian wiles that Cheney and Rumsfeld were worked up by there being a plausible case for bombing Afghanistan to committing the US to carrying out Israel's ME Balkanisation plan starting with Iraq. And he probably believes a plan to demolish WTC7 with explosives was part of the brilliant scheming. His thoughts got stuck 15 years ago.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I gave you the troll tag because there isn't a tag yet for shill. It's OK, though. You qualify for both.
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  15. I fear that THE jews does not exist.
    There are huge differences of opinion between jews, as one could read in the Sephardic Newletter by rabbi David Shasha.
    This internet publication I cannot find any more, but there is a similar publication by various groups of non asjkenazi jews.

    THE split in jews as a group seems to be between asjkenazi jews and non asjkenazi jews.
    Is it possible that Asian genes control the behaviour of asjkanazi jews ?

    I see the jewish situation as as three stage rocket, a small group of jews, among them the neocons, frighten their fellow jews, in their effort to control the world, PNAC by AEI, then nearly all jews cooperate in more or less controlling the USA for attaining their goals.
    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.

    Is it fear that motivates them to try to control the whole world, or just lust for power ?
    And in how far, if fear drives them, is the continuing holocaust propaganda the basis for their fear ?

    The best thing for jews, in my opinion, is to disappear completely through assimilation.
    This also, in my opinion, is the best thing for the world.
    ‘Jews. The essence and character of a people’, Arthur Herzberg and Aron Hirt-Manheimer, HarperSanFrancisco, 1998
    asserts, alas without specifying any source, that just 87% of those who could have been or remained jews chose to do so.
    If this is true, then a 13% more would solve the problem.

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    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.
     
    I gave up trying to assign a rational set of explanations for that long ago.

    I suspect the answer is simply that they're nutzo. A bunch of crackpots.
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  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw–nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.

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    @Pseodo Anonymous

    As 9/11 occurred partly because of what the CIA withheld from the FBI together with internal failures to communicate or to connect dots it seems quite plausible that Mossad did pass on a lot of relevant information. In fact it would be surprising if, with reasonably certain knowledge of a major attack, they didn't take steps to cover their asses. Indeed they might have set themselves up with CIA and FBI insiders by being able to embarrass some agents about the information they failed to make use of. But then they just mightn't have known more than the CIA and FBI's far mor numerous staff.

    , @nsa
    No, no, no.......didn't you get the memo? The 6 1/2' arab holed up in his cave high in the hindu kush, with his giant porn collection and many wives, hooked up to an artificial kidney machine and hookah pipe, directed 19 goat herders to fly airliners into giant skyscrapers, reactor sites, and a military headquarters half way around the world. Get with the program or you will be receiving a visit......
    , @plonialmoni
    You are half way there. Soon you will realize that no hijacked planes were intercepted because there were no hijacked planes to intercept.
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  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

    Very noble, and laudable even, but hasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of ever happening. The tribal impulse is overpowering, even when it’s suicidal.

    America was supposed to be the Grand Experiment in E Pluribus Unum, leaving tribalism behind in the Old World, but certain tribes had other ideas.

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  18. renfro says:

    This article would be more appropriate published in the Jewish Forward ‘if’ the authors intent is to persuade Jews to join the Trump right on immigration.

    Digging into Steve Miller for 45 minutes turns up his main immigration issue during and since his school days was Muslims.

    As an American (first) and Jew (second)

    My impression is the author has that backwards……as his concern clearly is what he considers best for the Jews…he just disagrees with the left wing Jews on what is best. The lefty Jews think their protection lies in more minorities in the US. The right wing Jews fear the new minorities who don’t have any affinity for Jews, can’t be holocaust guilt tripped on Israel and will be a voting block who will eventually recoil at the billions spent on Israel.

    The bottom line is we don’t need to align with the right wing Jews on immigration, we can handle that ourselves. Our US interest and the Jews interest in the US are not the same in the long term, beyond immigration, and its not to our benefit to make the republicans any more Jew centric than they already are or encourage more Jewish influence in the Trump adm and he’s already up to his gills in Jews. Beyond immigration we have to consider the war Israel is continuing in Syria and cooking up in Lebanon. We don’t want Trump giving the Jews another ME war against their rivals on the US dime as a quid pro quo for any Jews immigration assistance.

    If we want an America for Americans it doesn’t include Jewish input or influence to put it bluntly …they have forfeited their right to have a say in what and who America should be because they have done way too much damage to America already.

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  19. The authors “Jewish fear” is an understatement. The story fails to explain the subtle source and nefarious purpose behind “fear and guilt” as promoted by Zionism. Is there a subtle well planned policy to take the oil in the middle east from the Arabs behind it all? IS population control dominance, integration and assimilation promoted to coordinate and globally connect, establish and enlist local, regional and national Jewish Organizations to answer the 1897 banker-backed Zionist Organization [1st Zionist Congress in Switzerland] call for settlers to invade the Arab lands; to establish a Jewish Homeland, in order to separate the oil rich lands from the Arabs?
    Global history of Jewish encroachments on the societies Jews become part of, shows that nearly everywhere Jewish presence produced discrimination against Jews ( a universal fact it seems?). Globally: everywhere the Jewish interest appeared; Jews would soon end up dominate in the import/exports, the governments, the banks and the businesses. Especially this was true in Christian places like Spain, Portugal, Poland, Romania, Russia where Jews used their global contacts, banking, and support systems to place “their kind” in highest places within universities, military, government, legal, banking and business. The more Jewish interest in these countries, the more their take over impact.
    Everywhere a follower of Zionism went, he or she was certain to find Jewish organizational support to help the Jewish interest to take advantage of local opportunities if and when such opportunity developed. The message in Zionism is “IF A JEW, fear for yourself and for all Jews, or if sympathetic to, or feeling guilty over the oppression of Jews, then respond to the psychology (propaganda) answer the global call, contribute to the effort and join the settlers and become a part of establishing a Jewish Homeland ( in the midst of the oil rich lands owned by the Arabs). What was never said, was that the new Jewish Homeland would be located in the middle of the oil fields of the middle east then owned by the Arabs. Zionism used fear and historical oppression to coordinate, control and direct the Jewish populations, and it used the guilt of millions of fair minded people to help the Zionist take the oil from the Arabs of the middle east.
    Zionism organized propaganda, to promote the so called Jewish Oppression as a justification for the Jewish homeland; but its purpose was to bring forth the population, military force, and laws that could be used by the settlers and their government to force the Arabs out of their oil rich lands.
    The Jewish invaders (needed a nation state, Israel, because they needed a legitimate military and a way to make the laws that suit the purpose) which seems to have been to force the Arabs out of their oil rich lands. unfortunately many in the world fell for it.. and the whole world is paying for it now.

    In response to the comment “Jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting “holocaust denial” and “antiracist” speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream Jewish organisations. ” I say it is essential to the purpose of Zionism that all efforts of any kind that might expose the Jewish hogwash be suppressed. My point is, Jews and the people of the world alike, have been hoodwinked: the Jewish homeland is about oil. The Jewish people are welcome just the same as anyone else, but those who are members or adherents to banker backed, corporate Zionism are not welcome at all.

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  20. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Is Miller truly putting America first, or running interference for his Kosher Mob allies who are concerned that a large influx of immigrants won’t show the greatest con job of the 20th Century, the Holocaust, the reverence Jews demand of everyone in not only the USA, but the world?

    The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography: Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy By Stephen Steinlight on October 1, 2001

    In an America in which people of color form the plurality, as has already happened in California, most with little or no historical experience with or knowledge of Jews, will Jewish sensitivities continue to enjoy extraordinarily high levels of deference and will Jewish interests continue to receive special protection? Does it matter that the majority non-European immigrants have no historical experience of the Holocaust or knowledge of the persecution of Jews over the ages and see Jews only as the most privileged and powerful of white Americans?

    https://cis.org/Jewish-Stake-Americas-Changing-Demography

    Until Israel comes completely clean on their role on masterminding the 9/11 False Flag, I have to be leery of any proposals from their MSM and government placed hasbara border guards.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

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  21. sarz says:

    There was a character in the British sixties revue Beyond the Fringe, who declared to general merriment, “I may be a Jew, but I’m not Jewish!”

    Some years ago, I came across the videos of – to me – an obvious New York Jew by the name of Morris or Mo living in London who was as much an antisemite as me. Meaning Holocaust denier and somone who can readily see the truth of “The Jews are our sorrow.”

    Here at last was someone I could share my secret with, something I considered it a matter of honour to keep to myself while bearing the slings and arrows of my outrageous antisemitism. In his Yahoo chat section one day, after sharing with him some of the reasons for thinking the Rockefellers are crypto-Jews I also averred that I was a Jew by osmosis.

    Next I knew, he had banned me from his channel. (Only later did I learn that he rejects his Jewish identity.) So. I can frankly say, not only am I a confirmed and dyed-in-the-wool antisemite, I have also suffered antisemitism – from a self-hating Jew. I may not be a Jew, but I admit I am, hitherto secretly, and among other identities I take seriously, Jewish.

    What sort of Jewish might that be? I call it normative Jewishness. It is a mainly secular ethical, intellectual and cultural tradition that makes demands almost impossible to meet. But so what? So does Christianity. Normative Jewishness is absolutist on truth and on common decency.

    The demand for absolute truth is hardly exclusively to be found in a strain of Jewishness. But that happens to be the cultural roots of my own case. A foreign student in America, I was practically adopted by a then-childless New York Jew some twenty years my senior and well known in intellectual circles. He was unrelenting in his exposure of unpleasant truth and made no exception for anyone’s feelings, including his own. He and his full siblings were the illegitimate second family of a merchant in leftover pieces of cloth. That’s where I picked up my normative Jewishness.

    I see traces of it all around. You cannot think of who Aaron Russo was without acknowledging his Jewishness. And so many others, including at this website. I instinctively make the highest demands of anyone on this wavelength, and most everyone fails.

    Gilad Atzmon is hugely important, but he cannot come clean on the Holocaust. He’s forever talking bullshit about revision, and throwing in his great grandmother as a concession, but afraid to say the Holocaust story is simply a crock of shit.

    David Cole, mentioned in the article, is a special case. After blowing apart the Holocaust story as a young man, he had to go into hiding for fear of his life. His cover was blown, and now the Tribal enforcers have him by the balls. He puts out an endless stream of antiantisemitism. Sad. I forgive him. But truth cannot.

    Normative Jewishness does not conflict with tribal loyalty. By all means, support your fellow tribesman, but within ethical bounds. Just as you would not support your brother by robbing a third party, it’s not okay for Jews to collude against non-Jews.

    The main problem the world has with Jews is not with individuals, no matter how repellent. It’s with a tribe that has in many respects the organisation of a world-dominating state, that is parasitic on other states and is is driven by satanic impulses. It is explicitly aimed at being “good for Jews”. All the nice Jews we know are beneficiaries of this monster (see Ron Unz’s piece on admissions to Harvard) amd one rightly demands that they do their bit to drive a stake through its heart, if by nothing else then by telling the truth. About the Fed. About the Holocaust. About 9/11, And about Israel. That should do it.

    There are ways of being Jewish and genuinely respecting yourself. It’s a matter of finally leaving Babylon.

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    Well good that you have encountered the civilising influencevof Jonathan Miller as in
    https://youtu.be/PLbymPBRvGk

    I think UR obsessives have, however, too limited an acquaintance with Jews. American Jews may, considered as s whole, be something of a special case - made specially potent by their numbers, but I wouldn't regard those I met on a tour of Israel as fitting the profile I find assumed on these threads. Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.
    , @liz
    Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it. And make cautious alliances with the tribe. It is the looney left that denounces tribalism among us, but Jews and Muslims are excepted. Tribalism is what works. It's worked for hundreds of thousands of years. Europe of tribes worked. Europe of tribes became a travelers' gem. Europe of multikulti is falling apart.
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  22. Z-man says:

    What!, a righteous Jew? Good article but he never mentions the big gorilla in the room, Izruel. i.e., the murderous, land grabbing Zionist entity.

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    He mentions it, but only as a safe haven for when the parasite kills the host and has to flee.
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  23. @SnakeEyes
    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

    Apparently the guys who set up equipment to record the event were Irish, same as the “art students” squatting in the buildings with cases of detonators, that Silverstein dude is as Irish as they come don’t you know? So much more… but were they Irish? I forget… You should look into it, but I expect you already know what I’m on about. Better keep hoping this overreach isn’t the proverbial straw…

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    Hi NoseytheDuke,

    Great educational job, Nosey! Hope author Marcus Alethia gets your message? Thanks.

    Linked below is an article that displays Israeli (immigration) double-standard; "news" to which of course our Jewish Corporate Media reflexively reacts & consigns to the "Memory Hole."

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/05/551319/Israel-notifying-African-migrants

    Selah "I don't wanna' fight for Greater Israel no more!" (Paraphrased, "Maggie's Farm," by the has been anti-war radical, Bob Dylan)
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  24. Karl says:

    I have succeeded in infecting Ron Unz’s brain with Jew-obsession

    Now I can contemplate taking control of him

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  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw--nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.

    @Pseodo Anonymous

    As 9/11 occurred partly because of what the CIA withheld from the FBI together with internal failures to communicate or to connect dots it seems quite plausible that Mossad did pass on a lot of relevant information. In fact it would be surprising if, with reasonably certain knowledge of a major attack, they didn’t take steps to cover their asses. Indeed they might have set themselves up with CIA and FBI insiders by being able to embarrass some agents about the information they failed to make use of. But then they just mightn’t have known more than the CIA and FBI’s far mor numerous staff.

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    Mossad at best just disinfo-ed the U$A intelligence establishment about what was about to happen. But, whoever "masterminded" 9/11 it is still an inside job, and I am convinced that U$A and Israel were BOTH involved... follow the money!
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  26. AaronB says:
    @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    Completely unnecessary. Jewish brainpower is dwarfed by white brainpower. Do the math with population numbers and mean IQ.

    Brainpower is not the issue with whites.

    Also, if, as I suspect is happening, Jews are on the verge of entering a decadent phase, than Jewish brainpower will decline, as it’s as much a question of motivation as ability.

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    According to Ron Unz's study of college admissions, that 'slide into decadence' has been going on for over a generation already.
    , @ANON
    "Do the math". Well you show me yours.

    Years ago when the assumptions I made were Ashkenazi Jewish avg IQ 115 (sd 15) and American Jewish population share nearly 3 per cent I noted that about 50 per cent of positions like major newspaper editors and successful Hollywood directors - and Wall Street bankers and lawyers - were Jewish it fitted well with the suppositiin that an IQ of 145 was about right for that level of attainment because there would be proportionately 17 times as many 2sd people compared to 3sd. So... 17 times 3 per cent gives you 50 per cent. Mind you, i noted not long after in Jim Collins "Built to Last" and "Great to Good", his well researched books on what it took to build great businesses that Jews weren't espevially prominent. Still, I think you might have trouble disproving the importance of Jewish intellect to America unless the East Asians have already dilled any gap.

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  27. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SnakeEyes
    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

    Don’t bother with him. He’s one of those who thinks there was some manipulative genius in the ether that could plan to have Cheney and Rumsfeld insane but so firmly in control that plausible reason for bombing Afghanistan could be reliably turned into an invasion of Iraq to further an Israeli plan to Balkanise the ME. He probably thinks that such clear thinking plotters would toss in the gratuitous demolition of WTC7 as well….

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  28. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man.

    It is?

    Then why this, in the next sentence?

    But Miller is a crucially important figure in the Trump administration…

    WTF is this?:

    … Miller is a powerful spokesman for economic nationalist positions, anti-globalism, and for preserving this country’s original culture and people

    Preserving this country’s original culture and people?

    You gotta be kidding me.

    I quit reading this obnoxious, unctuous scribbling of a mythagogue right there.

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  29. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz
    There was a character in the British sixties revue Beyond the Fringe, who declared to general merriment, "I may be a Jew, but I'm not Jewish!"

    Some years ago, I came across the videos of - to me - an obvious New York Jew by the name of Morris or Mo living in London who was as much an antisemite as me. Meaning Holocaust denier and somone who can readily see the truth of "The Jews are our sorrow."

    Here at last was someone I could share my secret with, something I considered it a matter of honour to keep to myself while bearing the slings and arrows of my outrageous antisemitism. In his Yahoo chat section one day, after sharing with him some of the reasons for thinking the Rockefellers are crypto-Jews I also averred that I was a Jew by osmosis.

    Next I knew, he had banned me from his channel. (Only later did I learn that he rejects his Jewish identity.) So. I can frankly say, not only am I a confirmed and dyed-in-the-wool antisemite, I have also suffered antisemitism - from a self-hating Jew. I may not be a Jew, but I admit I am, hitherto secretly, and among other identities I take seriously, Jewish.

    What sort of Jewish might that be? I call it normative Jewishness. It is a mainly secular ethical, intellectual and cultural tradition that makes demands almost impossible to meet. But so what? So does Christianity. Normative Jewishness is absolutist on truth and on common decency.

    The demand for absolute truth is hardly exclusively to be found in a strain of Jewishness. But that happens to be the cultural roots of my own case. A foreign student in America, I was practically adopted by a then-childless New York Jew some twenty years my senior and well known in intellectual circles. He was unrelenting in his exposure of unpleasant truth and made no exception for anyone's feelings, including his own. He and his full siblings were the illegitimate second family of a merchant in leftover pieces of cloth. That's where I picked up my normative Jewishness.

    I see traces of it all around. You cannot think of who Aaron Russo was without acknowledging his Jewishness. And so many others, including at this website. I instinctively make the highest demands of anyone on this wavelength, and most everyone fails.

    Gilad Atzmon is hugely important, but he cannot come clean on the Holocaust. He's forever talking bullshit about revision, and throwing in his great grandmother as a concession, but afraid to say the Holocaust story is simply a crock of shit.

    David Cole, mentioned in the article, is a special case. After blowing apart the Holocaust story as a young man, he had to go into hiding for fear of his life. His cover was blown, and now the Tribal enforcers have him by the balls. He puts out an endless stream of antiantisemitism. Sad. I forgive him. But truth cannot.

    Normative Jewishness does not conflict with tribal loyalty. By all means, support your fellow tribesman, but within ethical bounds. Just as you would not support your brother by robbing a third party, it's not okay for Jews to collude against non-Jews.

    The main problem the world has with Jews is not with individuals, no matter how repellent. It's with a tribe that has in many respects the organisation of a world-dominating state, that is parasitic on other states and is is driven by satanic impulses. It is explicitly aimed at being "good for Jews". All the nice Jews we know are beneficiaries of this monster (see Ron Unz's piece on admissions to Harvard) amd one rightly demands that they do their bit to drive a stake through its heart, if by nothing else then by telling the truth. About the Fed. About the Holocaust. About 9/11, And about Israel. That should do it.

    There are ways of being Jewish and genuinely respecting yourself. It's a matter of finally leaving Babylon.

    Well good that you have encountered the civilising influencevof Jonathan Miller as in

    I think UR obsessives have, however, too limited an acquaintance with Jews. American Jews may, considered as s whole, be something of a special case – made specially potent by their numbers, but I wouldn’t regard those I met on a tour of Israel as fitting the profile I find assumed on these threads. Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.

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    "Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that."

    It is pro-Jewish for Catholics to lapse, which includes attending Mass but believing like a Mainline Protestant. Lapsing Catholics are loved and needed by Jews because they weaken whatever chance we have to revive Christendom.
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  30. Malla says:

    Jew or no Jew. Stopping Immigration is not the end solution. The populations of the West have to go to post WW2 demographics.

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  31. @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    So you’re pro-White Genocide? Is that correct?

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    There is a point in progressing of the events when mob cannot be controlled, and we should be careful that it does not happen in US.
    Concerning Germany we do not know If Hitler lead the mob or if he only was responding to mob.
    He is dead now, and so we cannot ask him, Better be careful than sorry
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  32. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SnakeEyes
    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

    Don’t worry about him. He’s probsbly one of those who credits some brilliant plotters with such Machievellian wiles that Cheney and Rumsfeld were worked up by there being a plausible case for bombing Afghanistan to committing the US to carrying out Israel’s ME Balkanisation plan starting with Iraq. And he probably believes a plan to demolish WTC7 with explosives was part of the brilliant scheming. His thoughts got stuck 15 years ago.

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    It was that Irishman, Larry Silverstein who said re WTC 7, "we had to make the decision to pull it".
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  33. @jilles dykstra
    I fear that THE jews does not exist.
    There are huge differences of opinion between jews, as one could read in the Sephardic Newletter by rabbi David Shasha.
    This internet publication I cannot find any more, but there is a similar publication by various groups of non asjkenazi jews.

    THE split in jews as a group seems to be between asjkenazi jews and non asjkenazi jews.
    Is it possible that Asian genes control the behaviour of asjkanazi jews ?

    I see the jewish situation as as three stage rocket, a small group of jews, among them the neocons, frighten their fellow jews, in their effort to control the world, PNAC by AEI, then nearly all jews cooperate in more or less controlling the USA for attaining their goals.
    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.

    Is it fear that motivates them to try to control the whole world, or just lust for power ?
    And in how far, if fear drives them, is the continuing holocaust propaganda the basis for their fear ?

    The best thing for jews, in my opinion, is to disappear completely through assimilation.
    This also, in my opinion, is the best thing for the world.
    ‘Jews. The essence and character of a people’, Arthur Herzberg and Aron Hirt-Manheimer, HarperSanFrancisco, 1998
    asserts, alas without specifying any source, that just 87% of those who could have been or remained jews chose to do so.
    If this is true, then a 13% more would solve the problem.

    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.

    I gave up trying to assign a rational set of explanations for that long ago.

    I suspect the answer is simply that they’re nutzo. A bunch of crackpots.

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  34. @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    No, the Jews did not come close to being wiped out by the Europeans. The Jewish Almanac said that there was basically no change in global Jewish population.

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  35. @NoseytheDuke
    Apparently the guys who set up equipment to record the event were Irish, same as the "art students" squatting in the buildings with cases of detonators, that Silverstein dude is as Irish as they come don't you know? So much more... but were they Irish? I forget... You should look into it, but I expect you already know what I'm on about. Better keep hoping this overreach isn't the proverbial straw...

    Hi NoseytheDuke,

    Great educational job, Nosey! Hope author Marcus Alethia gets your message? Thanks.

    Linked below is an article that displays Israeli (immigration) double-standard; “news” to which of course our Jewish Corporate Media reflexively reacts & consigns to the “Memory Hole.”

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/05/551319/Israel-notifying-African-migrants

    Selah “I don’t wanna’ fight for Greater Israel no more!” (Paraphrased, “Maggie’s Farm,” by the has been anti-war radical, Bob Dylan)

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  36. “Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish? What makes Mr Aletheia think that we Europeans either need or want Jewish help (to say nothing of the Jewish domination his argument implies) in defending our homelands and cultures? Is this not just a Jewish version of Hitler’s master race ideology?

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    Now that is a waters muddying comment that could have been written by the SPLC or the ADL. Or the average Jewish Neocon journalist.
    , @AaronB

    Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish?
     
    Exactly. It's a sign of growing Jewish stupidity and loss of tactical intelligence that the author is oblivious to how tactless that sounds. A hundred years ago, Jews would never have forgotten so basic a rule of psychology as avoid appearing superior when trying to ingratiate. But power makes stupid - literally stupid - and Jewish decline is in its early stages. Grasp of psychology is eroding.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    re:

    "Hitler’s master race ideology . . ."
     
    Been hearing a lot about "Hitler’s master race ideology" lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler's own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.
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  37. Jake says:

    “but I just can’t understand American Jews having feelings of fear or hostility towards White Christian Americans in general.”

    Well, isn’t is obvious that as every synagogue built in the US before 1950 was destroyed in a pogrom
    and as no Jews were allowed to get rich or hold political or judicial office or found their own country clubs that white Gentile Americans eat, sleep, and breathe anti-Semitism?

    THE reason for the above is not merely Jesus; the overriding reason is Christendom.

    Gentiles of any skin hue believing Jesus to be the christos/messias is not necessarily a big deal to Jews. And that goes triple – no, sextuple – when those non-white Jesus people hold views that are heretical according to historic Christianity.

    Jews always adore Christian heretics. Renaissance Jews loved what Luther said about the Old Testament and loved even more his acting to split Christendom. Jews loved Oliver Cromwell allying with them.

    Because Christendom was built upon Greek and Latin by white men, Jews have a deep-embedded hatred of all things European in cultural terms as well as genetics. Jews intend to prevent the revival of Christendom by refashioning both the peoples who reside in formerly white nations and the cultures of those lands.

    Everything any of you do to oppose this that is not about working to revive Christendom is either pissing in the wind or inadvertently working with Christ-hating/Christendom-hating/white-hating Jews.

    And yes, that means those of you who hope to save WASP culture and use it to save Europe and the West are, like Oliver Cromwell, in bed with Jews to your own eventual destruction.

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  38. As i read through the first paragraphs, I was troubled by the foundation being laid. The state of Israel as it exists today are not the original inhabitants of Israel – not even close. What’s more is that that they are attempting to create a purity that simply didn’t exist at the time the original people’s created their nation.

    The premise has some deep flaws in logic and reality. The current state of Israel doesn’t even practice as a whole what they claim as their birthright, the expectations established. A claim that the Jews of Israel today are the original or indigenous population is akin to the bizarre claim that Belgians are the original people’s of the Congo.

    It’s an astounding claim to support for which there is very little support.

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  39. Jake says:
    @Anonymous
    Well good that you have encountered the civilising influencevof Jonathan Miller as in
    https://youtu.be/PLbymPBRvGk

    I think UR obsessives have, however, too limited an acquaintance with Jews. American Jews may, considered as s whole, be something of a special case - made specially potent by their numbers, but I wouldn't regard those I met on a tour of Israel as fitting the profile I find assumed on these threads. Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.

    “Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.”

    It is pro-Jewish for Catholics to lapse, which includes attending Mass but believing like a Mainline Protestant. Lapsing Catholics are loved and needed by Jews because they weaken whatever chance we have to revive Christendom.

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    Well you may have a point but it is a different point to anything to do with my friendly Jewish acquaintance.
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  40. Jake says:
    @Michael Kenny
    “Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish? What makes Mr Aletheia think that we Europeans either need or want Jewish help (to say nothing of the Jewish domination his argument implies) in defending our homelands and cultures? Is this not just a Jewish version of Hitler's master race ideology?

    Now that is a waters muddying comment that could have been written by the SPLC or the ADL. Or the average Jewish Neocon journalist.

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  41. AaronB says:
    @Michael Kenny
    “Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish? What makes Mr Aletheia think that we Europeans either need or want Jewish help (to say nothing of the Jewish domination his argument implies) in defending our homelands and cultures? Is this not just a Jewish version of Hitler's master race ideology?

    Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish?

    Exactly. It’s a sign of growing Jewish stupidity and loss of tactical intelligence that the author is oblivious to how tactless that sounds. A hundred years ago, Jews would never have forgotten so basic a rule of psychology as avoid appearing superior when trying to ingratiate. But power makes stupid – literally stupid – and Jewish decline is in its early stages. Grasp of psychology is eroding.

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  42. Zionist Israel and the Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the American government were the ones who did 911 and tried to sink the USS LIBERTY and proof of this is the fact that although every thinking American knows this , not a thing has been done to Israel, because they control every facet of the government.

    Trump is a puppet of Israel as has every POTUS since JFK who they assassinated along with RFK and JFK jr, and so as usual Israel is the real power in America and that is why we are fighting wars with out end in the Mideast, Americans are fighting and dying for Israel, and this will go on until there are no more Americans to die for ISRAEL.

    Congress is the lower house of the Knesset and the actual capital of the U.S. is TEL AVIV.

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  44. @AaronB
    BTW, this a real time example of how Jews have survived so well down the centuries.

    The tide is now shifting and some Jews are cautiously feeling out ways to align themselves with the emerging power configurations.

    You are witnessing in real time things that have been discussed here only in theory. It's pretty cool.

    Don't fall for it. Don't buy it. Don't be eternal fools.

    As human beings, not as Jews, Jews should be accommodated - but cautiously, from a distance, in a controlled manner, on your terms.

    Most Jews - who identify as Jews rather than simple humans - should probably go to Israel and not try and "help" whites.

    Self-identified Jews who choose to stay should act with honesty and integrity and recuse themselves from prominent roles in public life -
    knowing full well their Jewish affiliation cannot allow them to be disinterested.

    Jews who are willing to be absorbed in the human race may be cautiously accommodated, perhaps.

    But no large scale Jewish "help" can be desired or accepted. And

    Jews.
    Help.
    Whites.

    Same sentence.

    My computer just burst into flames.

    “Help the Gentiles.” is the opposite of what the Talmud commands.

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    What do you think "the Talmud" is? What version are you referring to? And how many Jews study it or regard it as anything more important than a rabbinical commentary on the Hebrew Bible?
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  45. Good article. I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies. I think of it sort of like the treaties we have with the Native Americans. It should lay out rights and responsibilities on both sides.

    I got this idea from the book The Jews by Hillaire Belloc which I highly recommend. It was written in 1922 and predicted a major backlash against Jews that had been building for some time all throughout Europe. The cause was initially Jewish dominance of finance and other Jewish power, and was coming to a head because of Bolshevism.

    He talks about how to break this pattern that keeps recurring:
    * Europeans pretend that Jews are just like any other citizens of their countries – Germans, French, etc.
    * Jews become increasingly powerful in various fields – finance, government, the press, etc. and in many cases are clearly working against the interests of their fellow citizens.
    * Taboos against talking about Jews and Jewish influence cause the pressure to build for awhile.
    * Finally at some point, Europeans have had enough and there is a backlash against Jews, which may become violent.
    * Europeans feel guilty about the backlash and go back to leaving the Jews alone and pretending they don’t exist.
    * Jews start gaining power again and the cycle repeats.

    He points out that Jews aren’t going anywhere – even when Spain expelled them for 300 years they still made their way back in. They also aren’t assimilating – it’s been 2000 years, they would have by now if they were going to. They are a distinct “nation” and their loyalty and identity is to other Jews – and that’s ok, as long as it’s recognized as such.

    He suggests that this recognition could include benefits for Jews and not just limitations – such as Jews potentially being exempt from conscription for military service.

    The book is written as a starting point for thinking about this, not necessarily with all the details of how the recognition would work. My impression reading the book was that much of it still resonates today and that it’s too bad almost 100 years have gone by without anyone really picking up where he left off.

    One of the things that bothers me a lot about the conventional wisdom is the way white people are attacked and condemned for feeling a sense of identity and solidarity with other white people. That seems perfectly natural and no non-white or non-Western racial or religious group is condemned for that. So it hardly seems fair to condemn Jews for having a group identity with other Jews.

    The issue is how to properly manage the inevitable conflicts of interest so things don’t get out of hand. Maybe if the Jews had recognition of their place as a permanent minority nation within the West, then they wouldn’t be trying to flood the West with foreigners – on the contrary, as this article suggests, they would want to preserve their Western home.

    And maybe recognition of the Jews as having a place, but with appropriate limitations on their power, would avoid the white majority getting fed up with Jewish dominance and there being a nasty backlash. Also, honesty about Jewish identity and interests would avoid white people getting exasperated with knowing what really motivates the Bill Kristol and Bret Stephens types but not being allowed to acknowledge it.

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    "...I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies..."

    This is a foolish idea. I may not know what's good for the Jews but I know what's good for us and that's to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go by any means possible. We need them out of our countries and with no control over us at all. They have their own country they can go live there. We don't need one Jew. We have no need of them in any capacity.
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  46. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man.

    90%+ credibility GONE, with this absurd statement!

    …need more Stephen Millers. Brash, unafraid, quick-witted, verbally formidable, and unabashedly “America First,”…

    Is this a love letter?!

    You, “… also have the ADL and the SPLC — powerful well-funded groups who conduct witch hunts against anyone who dares speak out against … or who dares to criticize Jews.

    Jewish political influence in the US is still overwhelmingly negative,

    I think that is “overwhelmingly” the salient part, non?
    This appendix is impotent and/or just for show, non, “…despite the great work of a few good Jews.

    It is difficult for me to keep traction with the remainder of this article.
    It looks like shill.

    Ultimately, everyone will have to confront the core of the actual issue, can you have people, who ascribe to an international collective based on systemic discrimination and hatred against all out-group peoples, call it “humanity”, under the ridiculous pretense of ‘choseness’ by a supreme power, which explicitly fosters a de-empathefication against humanity, in order to negative-sum-gain game the system for the benefit of the collective?

    Kol Nidre ““All vows [ ], obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘ḳonam,’ ‘ḳonas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.”

    Can members of such a collective ever be trusted to be “America first”?

    I don’t see how it could be done?

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  47. @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    The Jewish God has commanded Jews to subjugate the Gentile world and exterminate all who resist.

    Whites don’t need that kind of “help”.

    And Whites don’t need “Jewish brainpower.”

    Really, that is why Jews hate us: Our flat IQ distribution shows that we produce plenty of our own geniuses (genii), and Jewish supremacist ideology will not forgive us for that.

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    "Our flat [sic]] IQ distribution"!!! Are you a Hottentot? Or do you just know *absolutely nothing* about what IQ tests measure, how they are scored and how the results are distributed? Why do you think about 2 or 3 per cent of the American population - those with Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry - have about 30 per cent of the Nobel Prizes won by Americans?
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  48. Talha says:

    Very interesting article. Looking forward to see how this sentiment plays out as the environment (and thus dynamic) changes.

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  49. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    Absurd propaganda that people are finally awakening to.
    Jews were pouring out of Europe, went everywhere after WWII.
    There is zero proof for the impossible ’6M Jews’.

    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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    https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1654038/merkel-duitsland-schuldig-aan-holocaust
    Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?
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  50. @Rabbi High Comma
    So you're pro-White Genocide? Is that correct?

    There is a point in progressing of the events when mob cannot be controlled, and we should be careful that it does not happen in US.
    Concerning Germany we do not know If Hitler lead the mob or if he only was responding to mob.
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    Hitler resurrected Germany.
    , @Rabbi High Comma
    1. Your entire comment is predicated upon jewish interests, and jewish interests only. I guess you feel the tribe has enough power now that you can dispense with the pretense of caring about others?

    2. "Better careful than sorry." Who should take care? Jews killed 20,000,000 gentiles during their first foray into using the Talmud as a governing strategy. So when Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin enthusiastically discuss getting rid of Whites in public my ears prick up. Perhaps jews don't think we notice they are always front and center for gun grab efforts - even dispensing with the oft used "goy spokesmodel" tactic to avoid fingerprints. That's how important it is. What exactly do jews have planned that makes them want us defenseless so dearly? Oh wait, I already covered that. Attempt Soviet Union 2.0 at your peril special tribe.

    3. You didn't comment on White Genocide. So you're somewhere on the spectrum of "don't care" to "enthusiastic"?

    But yes....the poor jews. If we selfish gentiles would learn to always put jewish interests ahead of our own, jews and gentiles would get along swimmingly. It's that simple in jew's minds. Shoe on the other foot ain't so popular with y'all.
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  51. nsa says:
    @Anonymous
    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw--nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.

    No, no, no…….didn’t you get the memo? The 6 1/2′ arab holed up in his cave high in the hindu kush, with his giant porn collection and many wives, hooked up to an artificial kidney machine and hookah pipe, directed 19 goat herders to fly airliners into giant skyscrapers, reactor sites, and a military headquarters half way around the world. Get with the program or you will be receiving a visit……

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  52. @Michael Kenny
    “Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish? What makes Mr Aletheia think that we Europeans either need or want Jewish help (to say nothing of the Jewish domination his argument implies) in defending our homelands and cultures? Is this not just a Jewish version of Hitler's master race ideology?

    re:

    “Hitler’s master race ideology . . .”

    Been hearing a lot about “Hitler’s master race ideology” lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler’s own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.

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    provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge

    Fact-checking critical thinkers can be expensive to hire. You gonna sub for the Woodchuck on his bus route to earn the needed coins?
    , @Mulegino1
    Insofar as I have been able to determine, the concept of the "herrenvolk" or "master race" referred more to a culture and nation characterized by self-mastery, not slave-mastery. In other words, a people who were disciplined, cultured and dignified, not a bunch of swaggering loutish overlords who never shut up about "Aryan superiority" and whose primary collective purpose and perceived historical mission was the extermination of the Slavish and Jewish "untermenschen."

    The comic book cutout "Nazi" - always in search of Slavs and Jews to destroy, most likely never existed, or if he did, he was a criminal aberration and at complete variance with real NSDAP policy. Historical National Socialists like Himmler and Rosenberg had race based ideas based on perceived pre-Christian, Teutonic culture and beliefs, but they never advocated for the physical extermination of the Slavs and the Jews. They believed in the superiority of the Aryan race and culture, but they did not necessarily denigrate- to the point of justification of enslavement- the race and culture of others.

    The National Socialist regime's primary rationale for its opposition to international Jewry was not a racial supremacist or irrational hatred of Jewish culture or religiosity but the age old reaction to the chronically anti-social and even criminal machinations of the Jewish collective against its Christian host cultures.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of "master race' is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls 'the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast'.
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  53. neutral says:
    @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence.

    The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist. Even jews like Stephan Miller are not be trusted, his main concern is the long run safety of Israel, he believes that a non white America and Europe is bad for Israel, while the majority of jews think it is good for Israel and the jews in general. I tend to agree with the leftist views on this one, a non white world would be better for the jews because it would easier (mostly) to sedate multiracial states with pop culture and money worship than it is with homogeneous white states.

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    "...The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist..."

    Agreed. Our focus should not be on what we have to do to get along with the Jews. It should not be whatever "task" the Jews think we should do to order our society. We don't need any help, hints or pointers on how to order our society from the Jews. The Jews have no right to lecture anyone on the planet about morality and any advice from them on morality is likely to be wrong. Our focus should be on what we have to do to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go not matter what.
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  54. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    re:

    "Hitler’s master race ideology . . ."
     
    Been hearing a lot about "Hitler’s master race ideology" lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler's own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.

    provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge

    Fact-checking critical thinkers can be expensive to hire. You gonna sub for the Woodchuck on his bus route to earn the needed coins?

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  55. A welcomed self-critique. But some of it also doesn’t sit well with me, in particular this sentence:

    Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.

    This is the problem with Jews in America in a nutshell: 80% are liberals who want open borders and at least 79% of them also want for America to defend Israel at all cost, the remaining 20% are neocons who want America to defend Israel at all cost and, at least 19% also want open borders. To be sure Jews are not alone in this, many Mexicans, Chinese, Indians, Muslims also bear such thinking, loyalty to their homeland or religion over loyalty to America, but at least most of them are recent immigrants. Most Jews have been here since 1880. It’s why I think we need to abolish dual citizenship. All those who hold dual citizenships should be stripped of their US citizenship and asked to leave.

    I love this speech given by Woodrow Wilson to a group of newly naturalized American citizens in Philadelphia:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=65388

    …And while you bring all countries with you, you come with a purpose of leaving all other countries behind you—bringing what is best of their spirit, but not looking over your shoulders and seeking to perpetuate what you intended to leave behind in them. I certainly would not be one even to suggest that a man cease to love the home of his birth and the nation of his origin—these things are very sacred and ought not to be put out of our hearts—but it is one thing to love the place where you were born and it is another thing to dedicate yourself to the place to which you go. You cannot dedicate yourself to America unless you become in every respect and with every purpose of your will thorough Americans. You cannot become thorough Americans if you think of yourselves in groups. America does not consist of groups. A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American, and the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes.

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  56. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5104644,00.html

    ‘Iran can create a hell for the Zionist regime’

    Tehran and Hezbollah issue new threats in the wake of Syrian downing of Israeli F-16, which was retaliating against Iranian drone that infiltrated Israel; celebrations in Lebanon, Syria: ‘Your planes went down.’

    “Iran could destroy all American military bases in the region and create a hell for the Zionist regime,” said the deputy head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hossein Salami, according to the Tasnim news agency.

    Syrian soldiers celebrating with treats

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

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    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     
    Do Chinese run the laundry business in TelAviv?

    They'd be the ones to best deal with that Shi*t crescent forming in Israel's knickers.
    , @iffen

    Israel's military has struck 12 Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria in what it described as "large-scale" attacks following an exchange of fire earlier in the day.
    "A few minutes ago, [Israeli aircraft]...targeted the Syrian Aerial Defense System and Iranian targets in Syria," a military statement said on February 10.
     
    https://www.rferl.org/a/israel-iran-syria-fighter-jet-shot-down/29031815.html
    , @Art

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     
    Israel losing an F-16 is a major lose. The invincible is no longer invincible. (The cost of an F-16 is greater then anything they blew up.)

    Israel is screwed - the last thing they really want to risk is an all out Syrian war. That would be a long war. Israel can not sustain a long war.

    Their demands of Russia are pleas for help.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. When the Jews come calling - what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do --- rush to war for Israel - or be an American for America?
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  57. @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    Over at Chateau Heartiste, Mr. Roissy —not widely known as a fanboi of, or world-class apologist for, the Jooooos— posted some months ago the s’pozedly valid statistic that 58.8% of self-identified married Joooo-ish cisgender males voted for Trump. If that’s for real, could it be yet another Joooo-ish scam to fool the dimwitted, emasculated “soyim” (another great neologism from Roissy!)?

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    Trumpstein is a Gooie......Goy on the outside, Jooie on the inside.
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  58. Given that, what is really best for the Jews?

    What is best for the Jews is to stop thinking of themselves as Jews, but as Americans, and only Americans, nothing else. Stop thinking of or for your clan and start think for yourself, as an individual. As Theodore Roosevelt once said: We do not have hyphenated Americans, there is no 50-50 American, you are either an American or you are not.

    The best thing for Jews, and all other minority groups, is stop thinking of yourself as a hyphenated American, but just as an American, that is, if you are a citizen. If you are not, think of yourself as a foreigner living temporarily in America, stop demanding anything of us, and leave before your welcome wears out.

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    The problem with that is that Jews and most other immigrants and minorities are not Americans, and never can be Americans, even If they wanted to be, which few do.

    Why not just admit that America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to? When you do that, it's easy to see what America is, who are the actual Americans, and what has been the effect of immigration. It's also easier to see solutions.
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  59. Mulegino1 says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    re:

    "Hitler’s master race ideology . . ."
     
    Been hearing a lot about "Hitler’s master race ideology" lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler's own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.

    Insofar as I have been able to determine, the concept of the “herrenvolk” or “master race” referred more to a culture and nation characterized by self-mastery, not slave-mastery. In other words, a people who were disciplined, cultured and dignified, not a bunch of swaggering loutish overlords who never shut up about “Aryan superiority” and whose primary collective purpose and perceived historical mission was the extermination of the Slavish and Jewish “untermenschen.”

    The comic book cutout “Nazi” – always in search of Slavs and Jews to destroy, most likely never existed, or if he did, he was a criminal aberration and at complete variance with real NSDAP policy. Historical National Socialists like Himmler and Rosenberg had race based ideas based on perceived pre-Christian, Teutonic culture and beliefs, but they never advocated for the physical extermination of the Slavs and the Jews. They believed in the superiority of the Aryan race and culture, but they did not necessarily denigrate- to the point of justification of enslavement- the race and culture of others.

    The National Socialist regime’s primary rationale for its opposition to international Jewry was not a racial supremacist or irrational hatred of Jewish culture or religiosity but the age old reaction to the chronically anti-social and even criminal machinations of the Jewish collective against its Christian host cultures.

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  60. liz says:
    @sarz
    There was a character in the British sixties revue Beyond the Fringe, who declared to general merriment, "I may be a Jew, but I'm not Jewish!"

    Some years ago, I came across the videos of - to me - an obvious New York Jew by the name of Morris or Mo living in London who was as much an antisemite as me. Meaning Holocaust denier and somone who can readily see the truth of "The Jews are our sorrow."

    Here at last was someone I could share my secret with, something I considered it a matter of honour to keep to myself while bearing the slings and arrows of my outrageous antisemitism. In his Yahoo chat section one day, after sharing with him some of the reasons for thinking the Rockefellers are crypto-Jews I also averred that I was a Jew by osmosis.

    Next I knew, he had banned me from his channel. (Only later did I learn that he rejects his Jewish identity.) So. I can frankly say, not only am I a confirmed and dyed-in-the-wool antisemite, I have also suffered antisemitism - from a self-hating Jew. I may not be a Jew, but I admit I am, hitherto secretly, and among other identities I take seriously, Jewish.

    What sort of Jewish might that be? I call it normative Jewishness. It is a mainly secular ethical, intellectual and cultural tradition that makes demands almost impossible to meet. But so what? So does Christianity. Normative Jewishness is absolutist on truth and on common decency.

    The demand for absolute truth is hardly exclusively to be found in a strain of Jewishness. But that happens to be the cultural roots of my own case. A foreign student in America, I was practically adopted by a then-childless New York Jew some twenty years my senior and well known in intellectual circles. He was unrelenting in his exposure of unpleasant truth and made no exception for anyone's feelings, including his own. He and his full siblings were the illegitimate second family of a merchant in leftover pieces of cloth. That's where I picked up my normative Jewishness.

    I see traces of it all around. You cannot think of who Aaron Russo was without acknowledging his Jewishness. And so many others, including at this website. I instinctively make the highest demands of anyone on this wavelength, and most everyone fails.

    Gilad Atzmon is hugely important, but he cannot come clean on the Holocaust. He's forever talking bullshit about revision, and throwing in his great grandmother as a concession, but afraid to say the Holocaust story is simply a crock of shit.

    David Cole, mentioned in the article, is a special case. After blowing apart the Holocaust story as a young man, he had to go into hiding for fear of his life. His cover was blown, and now the Tribal enforcers have him by the balls. He puts out an endless stream of antiantisemitism. Sad. I forgive him. But truth cannot.

    Normative Jewishness does not conflict with tribal loyalty. By all means, support your fellow tribesman, but within ethical bounds. Just as you would not support your brother by robbing a third party, it's not okay for Jews to collude against non-Jews.

    The main problem the world has with Jews is not with individuals, no matter how repellent. It's with a tribe that has in many respects the organisation of a world-dominating state, that is parasitic on other states and is is driven by satanic impulses. It is explicitly aimed at being "good for Jews". All the nice Jews we know are beneficiaries of this monster (see Ron Unz's piece on admissions to Harvard) amd one rightly demands that they do their bit to drive a stake through its heart, if by nothing else then by telling the truth. About the Fed. About the Holocaust. About 9/11, And about Israel. That should do it.

    There are ways of being Jewish and genuinely respecting yourself. It's a matter of finally leaving Babylon.

    Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it. And make cautious alliances with the tribe. It is the looney left that denounces tribalism among us, but Jews and Muslims are excepted. Tribalism is what works. It’s worked for hundreds of thousands of years. Europe of tribes worked. Europe of tribes became a travelers’ gem. Europe of multikulti is falling apart.

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    "...Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it..."

    Exactly. We should become more tribal and throw the Jew out. Get rid of them

    "... And make cautious alliances with the tribe..."

    This is where you get it wrong. For thousands of years we've tried to do this and they've stabbed us in the back every time. When will people learn? It's best to get rid of them and have nothing to do with them. This has been shown with 100% accuracy to be effective in increasing the wealth, health and happiness of any population that chooses it.
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  61. @Wally
    Absurd propaganda that people are finally awakening to.
    Jews were pouring out of Europe, went everywhere after WWII.
    There is zero proof for the impossible '6M Jews'.

    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1654038/merkel-duitsland-schuldig-aan-holocaust

    Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?

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    A real yawner. And OJ Simpson was innocent.
    Merkel, the communist, has no proof for the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers''.
    Merkel's government' considers free speech to be a "criminal activity against the state".
    This is a desperate action by those who fear the truth.
    Note that in Germany and much of Europe free speech on the 'holocaust' storyline is strictly forbidden. Truth needs no protection, it can stand on it's own.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel was voluntarily involved and held positions with East German communists.
    Merkel voluntarily, enthusiastically joined communist organizations.

    http://deathofcommunism.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/5/38555197/1413808_orig.jpg
    Happily strolling around in her E.German communist uniform with her communist friends.
    http://www.dw.com/image/0,,16806432_401,00.jpg
    Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ.
    www.codoh.com

    , @Sam J.
    "Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?"

    Wally is more credible than Merkel. He has...facts.
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  62. @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    It’s got nothing to do with right/left, and everything to do with Jew/cattle.

    They give no quarter; they shall get no quarter.

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  63. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    There is a point in progressing of the events when mob cannot be controlled, and we should be careful that it does not happen in US.
    Concerning Germany we do not know If Hitler lead the mob or if he only was responding to mob.
    He is dead now, and so we cannot ask him, Better be careful than sorry

    Hitler resurrected Germany.

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    "Hitler resurrected Germany."
     
    "If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945
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  64. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Herman

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5104644,00.html

    'Iran can create a hell for the Zionist regime'

    Tehran and Hezbollah issue new threats in the wake of Syrian downing of Israeli F-16, which was retaliating against Iranian drone that infiltrated Israel; celebrations in Lebanon, Syria: 'Your planes went down.'

    "Iran could destroy all American military bases in the region and create a hell for the Zionist regime," said the deputy head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hossein Salami, according to the Tasnim news agency.

    https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2018/02/10/8339399/833939801000100640360no.jpg

    Syrian soldiers celebrating with treats

    Russia: Respect Syria's sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia's urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

    Do Chinese run the laundry business in TelAviv?

    They’d be the ones to best deal with that Shi*t crescent forming in Israel’s knickers.

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  65. @SolontoCroesus
    re:

    "Hitler’s master race ideology . . ."
     
    Been hearing a lot about "Hitler’s master race ideology" lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler's own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.

    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of “master race’ is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls ‘the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast’.

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    Nothing what you mentioned is written in Main kampf.
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them and that there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany, and that they were only in administrative positions.
    Most of Mein Kampf is only organizational instructions for the party.nd also some grievances about what did happen to Germany as a result of defeat.
    Nothing in Main Kampf about Germans as a master race,
    And no Darvin mentioned in Men Kampf.
    If you disagree just show me a page and I can verify it for you.
    , @Father Coughlin
    "In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree."

    Wait. I imagine the cell biology of a parasite is far different from that of misletoe. And the connotation in vernacular English is WAY WAY different.

    I'm getting echoes, here, of a "special" translation, same as Ahmadinejad supposedly saying in Iranian that "Israel will be exterminated".
    , @SolontoCroesus
    I don't think MK is boring. Difficult, perhaps, but not boring. I avoid like the plague versions of MK that have been heavily annotated, such as the Raoul de Roussy de Sales version.

    I've been working on a project since Twelfth Night, and an extended passage from MK ch. 3 has caught my attention. I don't understand many of the specific political references AH makes to the various factions in Austrian government, etc., but the key point that applied directly to my project is that Christians, especially Protestants but also Catholics, are so committed to the abstractions of their beliefs -- i.e. "democracy," and "tolerance," and "love everyone," that they cling to those abstractions even at the dire cost of their concrete well-being (my quick and dirty précis of Hitler's main points in this passage).

    Here's part of that chapter, from Mein Kampf:

    This unfortunate habit of looking at all national demands from the viewpoint of a pre-conceived notion makes it impossible for us to see the subjective side of a thing which objectively contradicts one's own doctrine. It finally leads to a complete reversion in the relation of means to an end. Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the 'Authority of the State'. In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the 'Authority of the State' is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself; and he looks upon that as sufficient apology for his own miserable existence. Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance,anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being, who constituted the parliamentary majority, were small and incompetent men or maybe even on a lower grade of inferiority; because to such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the 'Authority of the State', and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of 'democracy'.

    In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations. The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of 'solidarity', but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a--German.

    It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease. . . .
     
    (nb. #1. I'm mentioned Prof. David Engel's lecture series, Understanding the Holocaust. Engel has a very unpleasant voice -- at least, it offends my ear. There's one snippet that I can't get out of my head: Engel says -- actually, barks, that "Hitler is all emotion, all ego, no intellect, no reason, just pure hate . . ." I'm not so sure about that.

    Another idiot Jew who jerks off by vilifying Hitler uses Wagner's operas as his vehicle. He concedes that Wagner was brilliant, but condemns Wagner because "Hitler liked him" (and also because Wagner wrote the "antisemitic" Judenthum, a strong critique of Jewish music-style. ) Yes, Hitler did like Wagner's operas. Hitler could, and did, hum or whistle the various leitmotifs from the Ring Cycle. I think there are ~250 of them. I wonder how many of them Engel might recognize? )

    (nb. #2. RobinG mentioned David Swanson, and he and his wild reaction to "Charlottesville" came to mind as I read this chapter from MK. Swanson is a pacifist, but he does not seem to see propaganda -- i.e. being systematically and persistently lied to and demonized -- as an act of war against which a person who values his liberty is duty-bound to resist and defend, with equal force.)
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  66. @Orwellian State

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?
     
    What is best for the Jews is to stop thinking of themselves as Jews, but as Americans, and only Americans, nothing else. Stop thinking of or for your clan and start think for yourself, as an individual. As Theodore Roosevelt once said: We do not have hyphenated Americans, there is no 50-50 American, you are either an American or you are not.

    The best thing for Jews, and all other minority groups, is stop thinking of yourself as a hyphenated American, but just as an American, that is, if you are a citizen. If you are not, think of yourself as a foreigner living temporarily in America, stop demanding anything of us, and leave before your welcome wears out.

    The problem with that is that Jews and most other immigrants and minorities are not Americans, and never can be Americans, even If they wanted to be, which few do.

    Why not just admit that America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to? When you do that, it’s easy to see what America is, who are the actual Americans, and what has been the effect of immigration. It’s also easier to see solutions.

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  67. nsa says:
    @Hanoi Paris Hilton
    Over at Chateau Heartiste, Mr. Roissy —not widely known as a fanboi of, or world-class apologist for, the Jooooos— posted some months ago the s'pozedly valid statistic that 58.8% of self-identified married Joooo-ish cisgender males voted for Trump. If that's for real, could it be yet another Joooo-ish scam to fool the dimwitted, emasculated "soyim" (another great neologism from Roissy!)?

    Trumpstein is a Gooie……Goy on the outside, Jooie on the inside.

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  68. “Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.”

    But, unfortunately for Israel, the Syria and its allies now have a better position on the chessboard since the IAF failed on their mission. Russia will not stand for it, and this incident of Israeli hubris has now given Syria and its allies permission to retaliate against even the slightest rebuke.

    Israel will be going down in its present form in our life times. If the author fells that “tikun-olam” is a saving grace for diasporic Jews, then they can apply those face-saving gestures on the state of Israel, influencing the decline on ethno-centrism there and creating the one-state solution of a truly democratic Palestine.

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  69. I like Stephen Miller a lot and do trust him despite his “affiliation”. The only thing I’ll counter-signal is I didnt like him as a warm-up speaker for Trump. I thought he was flat.

    ps Murray Rothbard also deserves an asterisk. Even though he was the Godfather of AnCap, his instincts were reactionary. He once ventured at a family dinner of 20-30 people engaged in Left-Wing after-dinner conversation, “what’s so bad about Franco?”. He also said, “I cannot believe in God, but I somehow fervently believe that Mary was His mother.”.

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  70. @Anonymous
    @Pseodo Anonymous

    As 9/11 occurred partly because of what the CIA withheld from the FBI together with internal failures to communicate or to connect dots it seems quite plausible that Mossad did pass on a lot of relevant information. In fact it would be surprising if, with reasonably certain knowledge of a major attack, they didn't take steps to cover their asses. Indeed they might have set themselves up with CIA and FBI insiders by being able to embarrass some agents about the information they failed to make use of. But then they just mightn't have known more than the CIA and FBI's far mor numerous staff.

    Mossad at best just disinfo-ed the U$A intelligence establishment about what was about to happen. But, whoever “masterminded” 9/11 it is still an inside job, and I am convinced that U$A and Israel were BOTH involved… follow the money!

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    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don't tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.) As for who disinformed who, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Giuliani knew exactly what they were doing. it is enough to look at who, in the "documentary" said "there was a plane" to understand who was actually pulling it off, and who was standing by to do their share. Guiliani laughed when he ran. Great, profitable, tax-free fun for him. And for everybody. Except the suckers.
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  72. iffen says:
    @Dan Herman

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5104644,00.html

    'Iran can create a hell for the Zionist regime'

    Tehran and Hezbollah issue new threats in the wake of Syrian downing of Israeli F-16, which was retaliating against Iranian drone that infiltrated Israel; celebrations in Lebanon, Syria: 'Your planes went down.'

    "Iran could destroy all American military bases in the region and create a hell for the Zionist regime," said the deputy head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hossein Salami, according to the Tasnim news agency.

    https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2018/02/10/8339399/833939801000100640360no.jpg

    Syrian soldiers celebrating with treats

    Russia: Respect Syria's sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia's urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     

    Israel’s military has struck 12 Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria in what it described as “large-scale” attacks following an exchange of fire earlier in the day.
    “A few minutes ago, [Israeli aircraft]…targeted the Syrian Aerial Defense System and Iranian targets in Syria,” a military statement said on February 10.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/israel-iran-syria-fighter-jet-shot-down/29031815.html

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  73. “…America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to…”

    Don’t forget to add, “and the product of genocide of the original indigenous inhabitants”.

    Or, “Israel is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that no one else can be considered if not Jewish…”

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

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    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.
     
    With two or three differences:


    1. Slavery has been officially named the Original Sin of USA. Jews were major participants & profiteers of slavery in USA.

    2. Yes, it is historically true that indigenous people on American continent were badly treated by European settlers, just as Palestinians are badly-to-brutally treated in their homeland by Jewish settlers.
    BUT -- when Europeans left their homelands in Europe, Britain, etc., they did not destroy them and kill as many as they could of those people with whom they had previously dwelt.
    Jews did these things -- as they left Poland, Germany, Russia, even France and Italy.
    This is the Jewish - Old Testament Exodus protocol: steal, kill, and destroy future generations on your way out.

    That's one thing, at least, that Christians got right; one way that Christians rejected Old Testament in favor of New Testament: Christians did not destroy their European homelands when they left.

    Jews did.
    , @OilcanFloyd
    The U.S. and Israel do not mirror each other. The "genocide" of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans, and it took centuries to get the ball rolling. Zionists immediately started ethnically cleansing and are still working at it, since it's built in to their system. It's what they are about.

    No current or past immigrants to America came to live like Native Indians, no matter how much they try to guilt or shame Whites for the crimes that their White ancestors supposedly committed. People are coming to America to take advantage of what Whites built, and it's always been that way. By your logic, immigrants are receiving stolen property, at best.

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  74. @jilles dykstra
    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of "master race' is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls 'the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast'.

    Nothing what you mentioned is written in Main kampf.
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them and that there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany, and that they were only in administrative positions.
    Most of Mein Kampf is only organizational instructions for the party.nd also some grievances about what did happen to Germany as a result of defeat.
    Nothing in Main Kampf about Germans as a master race,
    And no Darvin mentioned in Men Kampf.
    If you disagree just show me a page and I can verify it for you.

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    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is ---- Hitler - Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying
     
    Think Peace --- Art
    , @annamaria
    "...there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany..."
    Actually, there were Jeiwsh fighters.
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  75. Art says:

    I am pro-white imperfect Christian Western culture – not pro-white tribal skin.

    The good part of white – is its cooperative optimistic Christian culture – not it racist biological tribal identity.

    Being individually cooperative, hopeful, and truth seeking, is the reason for the white Wests success.

    Isn’t Miller being politically pro-white tribal skin. This is NOT what we need. That brings war – not peace. Idealistic Christian white wants peace.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How is Miller on the ME Israeli Jew wars – hmm?

    p.s. Would he be for Israel or America? He cannot be loyal to both.

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    Good sentiments. Trump like Obama before him is somehow being subverted from peace candidate to just another errand boy. I don't know what Miller's views are on the middle east but I share your hunch. What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.
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  76. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra
    https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1654038/merkel-duitsland-schuldig-aan-holocaust
    Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?

    A real yawner. And OJ Simpson was innocent.
    Merkel, the communist, has no proof for the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers”.
    Merkel’s government’ considers free speech to be a “criminal activity against the state”.
    This is a desperate action by those who fear the truth.
    Note that in Germany and much of Europe free speech on the ‘holocaust’ storyline is strictly forbidden. Truth needs no protection, it can stand on it’s own.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel was voluntarily involved and held positions with East German communists.
    Merkel voluntarily, enthusiastically joined communist organizations.
    Happily strolling around in her E.German communist uniform with her communist friends.Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ.
    http://www.codoh.com

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  77. @jilles dykstra
    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of "master race' is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls 'the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast'.

    “In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.”

    Wait. I imagine the cell biology of a parasite is far different from that of misletoe. And the connotation in vernacular English is WAY WAY different.

    I’m getting echoes, here, of a “special” translation, same as Ahmadinejad supposedly saying in Iranian that “Israel will be exterminated”.

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    schmarotzen has a less clinical connotation as in "moocher". English translations of NS terms always sound clinical, ignoring the way German terms are always interwoven with more cultural associations.
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  78. annamaria says:

    The Israelis firmly believe that the US is ready to initiate WWIII in order to augment the apartheid theocracy (“the only democracy in the Middle East”)
    “Major escalation: Israel carries out “Large Scale Attack” on Syria after Israeli F-16 shot down:” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-10/israel-carries-out-large-scale-attack-syria-after-israeli-f-16-shot-down
    “…according to a statement issued to the AFP, Israel says Iran and Syria are “playing with fire” … regional media reports indicate Israel has continued to pound the Damascus countryside throughout the morning. The Syrian government has condemned Israel’s actions as unwarranted “aggression”.
    It must be remembered that the Israeli Air Force has acknowledged striking targets inside Syria at least 100 times over the past few years of the conflict, with the last attack prior to today’s events happening just earlier this week. Syria has frequently taken its case before the U.N., calling for official condemnation of the unprovoked attacks, but has been just as frequently rebuffed.
    In its now ‘open secret’ of a years-long pursuit of regime change in Syria, Israel has given covert support to al-Qaeda linked groups in Syria’s south – near the vicinity of today’s F-16 shoot down – which has involved weapons transfers and treatment of wounded jihadists in Israeli hospitals, according to The Wall Street Journal. As former Acting Director of the CIA Michael Morell once directly told the Israeli public, Israel’s “dangerous game” in Syria has involved getting in bed with al-Qaeda in order to fight Shia Iran. And as Israel has long sought ways to justify attacks on Iranian assets in Syria while at the same time undermining and destabilizing the Syrian government, the downing of an F-16 may have given Israel’s hawkish leadership the excuse they’ve been looking for all along to escalate toward a final confrontation.”
    — The whining criminals are expecting that the same taxpayers that provided Israel with F-16, will finance and provide “limbs” for Israel’s war of aggression against a neighboring country.

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  79. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Max Nordau provided a lot more content to modern zionism than Herzl did.
    Nordau was a huge advocate for “muscle Jews.”
    A physician, Nordau observed that Jews were physically and mentally “degenerated” and in need of “regeneration” to raise them to the stature of the biblical heroes Nordau recalled from his childhood — the derring do of David and Samson etc.

    So muscle Jews became the watchword.

    Jews shed their “intercessionary,” supplicant posture and instead Made Demands and Took Charge.

    I used to work for a Jewish family — lived in their house, participated in all manner of their family activities. They were decent employers, but never any question what the status-and-power relationships were: I was a peon, they were the professionals, the elites.

    Until I announced that I intended to leave, to pursue greater opportunities.

    I was astonished at the whining and begging, and especially at the Lady of the House when she played what she apparently thought was her trump card: “I believe in Jesus and everything . . . Just stay!”

    When Muscle Jew is effective, play that card.
    When it fails, whine.
    Flexibility is key.

    That’s Alithea’s take-away message.

    I also experienced another version of the Jewish version of “Can’t we all just get along,” when a Jewish group — maybe JVP — hosted a conference on Palestine, with heavy outreach to the “larger Christian community.”
    It is not their goal to demand that Israel’s leadership change, or that ADL be investigated for spying on US institutions, etc., none of that.
    Jews want Christians to join them “in solidarity” — to achieve Jewish goals.

    Ain’t gonna do it.
    It’s a sucker bet.
    It’s camouflage.

    Jews are the enemy.

    The British found that out the hard way (but not hard enough, apparently: the British are still suckered by Jews at every turn) — Jews used British to acquire Palestine for them, to roust Arabs for benefit of Jews, and then Jews killed British leaders, killed British soldiers, and finally kicked out the British.

    Because the British refused to recognize that Jews were their enemy.

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    Zionism in Britain: a Neglected Chronicle
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/28/zionism-in-britain-a-neglected-chronicle/
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  80. Moi says:

    We now have a Jewish problem? Oy vey!

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  81. Issac says:
    @anony-mouse
    Unlike most real Jews, 'Marcus Alethia' can't spell (Ignatiev) and considers Tim Wise an example of American Jewry. (Wise is one quarter Jewish, all on his father's side, is anti-Zionist, and is married to a Gentile). He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return, but wouldn't go there.

    'Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC '. Evidently he also believes that Morris Dees is Jewish too.

    The word 'aletheia' by the way was mostly used in modern times by Heidegger, another giveaway that 'Alethia' isn't Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

    A diasporatic sounds reasonable and all of a sudden the rabble are toting pitchforks and looking to accuse him of being a crypto gentile. What a useless lot you are. G-d help us; as I’m sure more of you will be making aliyah in the near future to escape the consequence of your actions.

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  82. Issac says:
    @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    So thoroughly wiped out that we regained our ancestral homeland and grew our population like never before amid rising to international prominence. Alas this misfortune!

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    "...and grew our population like never before..."
    -- by creating a supremacist state? Time to apply to Israelis living abroad the same rules that Israelis apply to non-Jews in their country of Israel. Imagine the squealing!
    By the way, you live in an ancestral homeland of Palestinians who are the true descendants of ancient Jews, unlike your ridiculous Mielkovsky (Bibi), thuggish Avigdor Lieberman, fanatical and hateful Scharansky (a model for Bush the lesser), and the pious and obnoxious haridim that do not recognize the state rules but only talmud. And yes, Israel has also created the largest Ghetto. Moreover, your ziocon tribe is guilty of planning and initiating the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. Four million people died since 1999, among them hundreds of thousands of children. But as a Jewish woman pronounced, this “worth it.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8
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  83. Vinteuil says:

    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn’t around to police things, as he pleases.

    Seriously: who approves or disapproves comments on a post like this? Is it RKU himself?

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    ...which OP, btw, was very good indeed.
    , @Art
    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn’t around to police things, as he pleases.

    Clearly, the only way Jews can prosper is with censorship. The truth hurts them. When the truth is known - people will not want to have anything to do with them.

    Think Peace --- Art

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  84. @jilles dykstra
    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of "master race' is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls 'the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast'.

    I don’t think MK is boring. Difficult, perhaps, but not boring. I avoid like the plague versions of MK that have been heavily annotated, such as the Raoul de Roussy de Sales version.

    I’ve been working on a project since Twelfth Night, and an extended passage from MK ch. 3 has caught my attention. I don’t understand many of the specific political references AH makes to the various factions in Austrian government, etc., but the key point that applied directly to my project is that Christians, especially Protestants but also Catholics, are so committed to the abstractions of their beliefs — i.e. “democracy,” and “tolerance,” and “love everyone,” that they cling to those abstractions even at the dire cost of their concrete well-being (my quick and dirty précis of Hitler’s main points in this passage).

    Here’s part of that chapter, from Mein Kampf:

    This unfortunate habit of looking at all national demands from the viewpoint of a pre-conceived notion makes it impossible for us to see the subjective side of a thing which objectively contradicts one’s own doctrine. It finally leads to a complete reversion in the relation of means to an end. Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the ‘Authority of the State’. In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the ‘Authority of the State’ is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself; and he looks upon that as sufficient apology for his own miserable existence. Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance,anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being, who constituted the parliamentary majority, were small and incompetent men or maybe even on a lower grade of inferiority; because to such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the ‘Authority of the State’, and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of ‘democracy’.

    In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations. The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of ‘solidarity’, but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a–German.

    It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease. . . .

    (nb. #1. I’m mentioned Prof. David Engel’s lecture series, Understanding the Holocaust. Engel has a very unpleasant voice — at least, it offends my ear. There’s one snippet that I can’t get out of my head: Engel says — actually, barks, that “Hitler is all emotion, all ego, no intellect, no reason, just pure hate . . .” I’m not so sure about that.

    Another idiot Jew who jerks off by vilifying Hitler uses Wagner’s operas as his vehicle. He concedes that Wagner was brilliant, but condemns Wagner because “Hitler liked him” (and also because Wagner wrote the “antisemitic” Judenthum, a strong critique of Jewish music-style. ) Yes, Hitler did like Wagner’s operas. Hitler could, and did, hum or whistle the various leitmotifs from the Ring Cycle. I think there are ~250 of them. I wonder how many of them Engel might recognize? )

    (nb. #2. RobinG mentioned David Swanson, and he and his wild reaction to “Charlottesville” came to mind as I read this chapter from MK. Swanson is a pacifist, but he does not seem to see propaganda — i.e. being systematically and persistently lied to and demonized — as an act of war against which a person who values his liberty is duty-bound to resist and defend, with equal force.)

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    read the book "Hitler's Vienna" to get a good overview of the influence of Austrian multiculti on Hitler
    , @annamaria
    When will we hear the condemnation of Kagans' clan by the Lobby? The Ukrainian project has produced a rise of neo-Nazism and resulted in the rise of hate against Jews and Jewish culture: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined "Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined"
    When will Israel investigate Israeli citizen Kolomojsky for his open financing the neo-Nazi troopers in Ukraine? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/25326-ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers " ...the Azov fighters do more than wave a Swastika-like flag; they favor the Wolfsangel flag of Hitler’s SS divisions, much as some of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis still honor Hitler’s Ukrainian SS auxiliary, the Galician SS. A Ukrainian hero hailed during the Maidan protests was Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera whose paramilitary forces helped exterminate Jews and Poles."
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  85. Vinteuil says:
    @Vinteuil
    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn't around to police things, as he pleases.

    Seriously: who approves or disapproves comments on a post like this? Is it RKU himself?

    It's obviously not the author of the OP.

    …which OP, btw, was very good indeed.

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  86. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Wacky world

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  87. Art says:
    @Dan Herman

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5104644,00.html

    'Iran can create a hell for the Zionist regime'

    Tehran and Hezbollah issue new threats in the wake of Syrian downing of Israeli F-16, which was retaliating against Iranian drone that infiltrated Israel; celebrations in Lebanon, Syria: 'Your planes went down.'

    "Iran could destroy all American military bases in the region and create a hell for the Zionist regime," said the deputy head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hossein Salami, according to the Tasnim news agency.

    https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2018/02/10/8339399/833939801000100640360no.jpg

    Syrian soldiers celebrating with treats

    Russia: Respect Syria's sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia's urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

    Israel losing an F-16 is a major lose. The invincible is no longer invincible. (The cost of an F-16 is greater then anything they blew up.)

    Israel is screwed – the last thing they really want to risk is an all out Syrian war. That would be a long war. Israel can not sustain a long war.

    Their demands of Russia are pleas for help.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. When the Jews come calling – what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do — rush to war for Israel – or be an American for America?

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    " When the Jews come calling – what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do — rush to war for Israel – or be an American for America?"

    This is a trick question, right?
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  88. hyperbola says:
    @anon
    Max Nordau provided a lot more content to modern zionism than Herzl did.
    Nordau was a huge advocate for "muscle Jews."
    A physician, Nordau observed that Jews were physically and mentally "degenerated" and in need of "regeneration" to raise them to the stature of the biblical heroes Nordau recalled from his childhood -- the derring do of David and Samson etc.

    So muscle Jews became the watchword.

    Jews shed their "intercessionary," supplicant posture and instead Made Demands and Took Charge.

    ---

    I used to work for a Jewish family -- lived in their house, participated in all manner of their family activities. They were decent employers, but never any question what the status-and-power relationships were: I was a peon, they were the professionals, the elites.

    Until I announced that I intended to leave, to pursue greater opportunities.

    I was astonished at the whining and begging, and especially at the Lady of the House when she played what she apparently thought was her trump card: "I believe in Jesus and everything . . . Just stay!"

    When Muscle Jew is effective, play that card.
    When it fails, whine.
    Flexibility is key.

    That's Alithea's take-away message.

    I also experienced another version of the Jewish version of "Can't we all just get along," when a Jewish group -- maybe JVP -- hosted a conference on Palestine, with heavy outreach to the "larger Christian community."
    It is not their goal to demand that Israel's leadership change, or that ADL be investigated for spying on US institutions, etc., none of that.
    Jews want Christians to join them "in solidarity" -- to achieve Jewish goals.

    Ain't gonna do it.
    It's a sucker bet.
    It's camouflage.

    Jews are the enemy.

    The British found that out the hard way (but not hard enough, apparently: the British are still suckered by Jews at every turn) -- Jews used British to acquire Palestine for them, to roust Arabs for benefit of Jews, and then Jews killed British leaders, killed British soldiers, and finally kicked out the British.

    Because the British refused to recognize that Jews were their enemy.
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    thanks

    never return an empty plate ---


    Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944 - 1948
    by Robert Lackner
    (for obtaining the academic degree of master of philosophy at the Karl-Franzen University Graz


    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=http://unipub.uni-graz.at/download/pdf/207265&usg=ALkJrhg1inn9a5y782JUTjh38aGy3lMYNA
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  89. ANONYMOUS • Disclaimer says:
    @bike-anarchist
    "...America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to..."

    Don't forget to add, "and the product of genocide of the original indigenous inhabitants".

    Or, "Israel is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that no one else can be considered if not Jewish..."

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

    With two or three differences:

    1. Slavery has been officially named the Original Sin of USA. Jews were major participants & profiteers of slavery in USA.

    2. Yes, it is historically true that indigenous people on American continent were badly treated by European settlers, just as Palestinians are badly-to-brutally treated in their homeland by Jewish settlers.
    BUT — when Europeans left their homelands in Europe, Britain, etc., they did not destroy them and kill as many as they could of those people with whom they had previously dwelt.
    Jews did these things — as they left Poland, Germany, Russia, even France and Italy.
    This is the Jewish – Old Testament Exodus protocol: steal, kill, and destroy future generations on your way out.

    That’s one thing, at least, that Christians got right; one way that Christians rejected Old Testament in favor of New Testament: Christians did not destroy their European homelands when they left.

    Jews did.

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  90. @bike-anarchist
    "...America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to..."

    Don't forget to add, "and the product of genocide of the original indigenous inhabitants".

    Or, "Israel is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that no one else can be considered if not Jewish..."

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

    The U.S. and Israel do not mirror each other. The “genocide” of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans, and it took centuries to get the ball rolling. Zionists immediately started ethnically cleansing and are still working at it, since it’s built in to their system. It’s what they are about.

    No current or past immigrants to America came to live like Native Indians, no matter how much they try to guilt or shame Whites for the crimes that their White ancestors supposedly committed. People are coming to America to take advantage of what Whites built, and it’s always been that way. By your logic, immigrants are receiving stolen property, at best.

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    "...The “genocide” of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans..."

    The genocide of the American Indian was from disease. Generally small pox, measles and others. 95% of the population died from this. Jewish massacres were deliberate.
    , @bike-anarchist
    The land is still stolen...
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  91. bahmi says:

    One must read the works of Dr Kevin MacDonald on this subject. His “Culture of Critique” delineates jewish migration to the US during the late 1800′s, and it tells us, with jewish approvals, that jews are pro-multiculturism because it helps take the focus off jewish people and jewish characteristics on a broad palette. Jews are not multicultural for mere slapdash reasons, they want cover in this culture, they want to blend in so the sharp eye of the natives does not rest on them. MacDonald has survived the gauntlet in/on this book and prospective readers are highly encouraged to read this book. You’ll read the work of a master who says it like it is. Great book!

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  92. RJJCDA says:

    When speaking about certain people, and even when self-referencing, we hear the term Irish American and not American Irish, Italian American and not American Italian, Japanese American and not American Japanese and even Black or African American and not American African. But it is quite common to refer to Jews, and have them refer to themselves as “American Jews.” This, at least to me, illustrates that many if not most Jews here are Jews first and just incidentally reside in America. The weight is always on the noun, not the adjective.

    The author of this piece recognizes this and plaudits to her. Solzhenitsyn strongly supported Israel as a homeland for one of the 200 or so nationalities existing (paraphrase: “…the nations of the world are the wealth of mankind, each blessed with their own divine facets.”) But he fell out of favor with the neocons when he seemed to imply that Jews everywhere, especially in Russia and in America had to choose which allegiance had priority.

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  93. anonYMOUS • Disclaimer says:
    @hyperbola
    Zionism in Britain: a Neglected Chronicle
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/28/zionism-in-britain-a-neglected-chronicle/

    thanks

    never return an empty plate —

    Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944 – 1948
    by Robert Lackner
    (for obtaining the academic degree of master of philosophy at the Karl-Franzen University Graz

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=http://unipub.uni-graz.at/download/pdf/207265&usg=ALkJrhg1inn9a5y782JUTjh38aGy3lMYNA

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  94. Art says:
    @Vinteuil
    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn't around to police things, as he pleases.

    Seriously: who approves or disapproves comments on a post like this? Is it RKU himself?

    It's obviously not the author of the OP.

    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn’t around to police things, as he pleases.

    Clearly, the only way Jews can prosper is with censorship. The truth hurts them. When the truth is known – people will not want to have anything to do with them.

    Think Peace — Art

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  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake
    "Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that."

    It is pro-Jewish for Catholics to lapse, which includes attending Mass but believing like a Mainline Protestant. Lapsing Catholics are loved and needed by Jews because they weaken whatever chance we have to revive Christendom.

    Well you may have a point but it is a different point to anything to do with my friendly Jewish acquaintance.

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  96. Art says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Nothing what you mentioned is written in Main kampf.
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them and that there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany, and that they were only in administrative positions.
    Most of Mein Kampf is only organizational instructions for the party.nd also some grievances about what did happen to Germany as a result of defeat.
    Nothing in Main Kampf about Germans as a master race,
    And no Darvin mentioned in Men Kampf.
    If you disagree just show me a page and I can verify it for you.

    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is —- Hitler – Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying

    Think Peace — Art

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    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn't you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn't even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you'd become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn't even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn't appear "wrong" - you'd behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four - literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn't strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can't build technology. But it's worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don't realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.
    , @renfro
    Well Hitler gave a good description of conversing with Jews

    But here's the real skinny on it:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-shasha/what-is-pilpul-and-why-on_b_507522.html

    What Is Pilpul , And Why On Earth Should I Care About It?

    By David Shasha
    For those who have any concern with the Middle East conflict or with Judaism, what you know — or do not know — about pilpul is something upon which your well-being could depend. Ignorance of pilpul is a very dangerous thing, something that would allow your interlocutor to have the upper hand in ways that you could not begin to even imagine.

    What is thought to be the Jewish “genius” is often a mark of how pilpul is deployed. The rhetorical tricks of pilpul make true rational discussion impossible; any “discussion” is about trying to “prove” a point that has already been established. There is little use trying to argue in this context, because any points being made will be twisted and turned to validate the already-fixed position.
    Pilpul is the rhetorical means to mark as “true” that which cannot ever be disputed by rational means.

    What this means for contemporary Jewish discourse is critical: Even though many contemporary Jews are not observant, pilpul continues to be deployed. Pilpul occurs any time the speaker is committed to “prove” his point regardless of the evidence in front of him. The casuistic aspect of this hair-splitting leads to a labyrinthine form of argument where the speaker blows enough rhetorical smoke to make his interlocutor submit. Reason is not an issue when pilpul takes over: what counts is the establishment of a fixed, immutable point that can never truly be disputed

    As if this was not enough, the Tosafists instituted one more pilpul principle into Talmudic discourse. This was called the Lav Davqa method. In English we might call it the “Not Quite” way of reading a text. When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!

    The contentiousness of the Middle East conflict is intimately informed by pilpul. Whether it is Alan Dershowitz or Noam Chomsky, both of them Ashkenazim who had traditional Jewish educations, the terms of the debate are consistently framed by pilpul. What is most unfortunate about pilpul — and this is something that will be familiar to anyone who has followed the controversies involving Israel and Palestine — is that, since the rational has been removed from the process, all that is left is yelling, irrational emotionalism, and, ultimately, the threat of violence.

    As I have said there really is no Jewish genius.....people sometimes mistake their arguments and writing for intelligence because they don't understand what's being said or written and think they arent bright enough to understand it..... the truth is they don't understand it because its just glibberish babble and verbosity....iow pilpul.

    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Did you keep it? Are you you? Is I. C. now in mental hospital?
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  97. MarkinLA says:
    @Jason Liu
    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they're trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they're just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They're often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    It is hard peeling off some members when some issues to them are non-negotiable. Take the holocaust. You can have NO deviation from the official story. You can’t even have a discussion. I am an agnostic on the issue since it is something I care not one whit about and am largely ignorant of and don’t care to study it so I don’t listen to either side. However, Jews on the subject are quite psychotic about it – even diaspora Jews who lost nobody to it.

    A Jew will always find some holocaust skeptic in any crowd. For them that means the whole group and everything they stand for is illegitimate.

    I have had my comments flagged and removed on supposedly conservative sites as “hateful” simply for posting that -”I don’t care about the holocaust and the US had nothing to do with it so doesn’t need to endlessly beg for forgiveness”.

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  98. Rurik says:

    One thing that the existence of Jews like Stephen Miller help to demonstrate (conclusively prove), is that the smear of ‘anti-Semite is a fraud and a lie.

    Because the whole idea of a person being an anti-Semite, is that they irrationally hate all Jews simply for being Jews.

    whereas I don’t know of any of these elusive ‘anti-Semites’ who’ve chimed in with their hatred of Stephen Miller = the Jew.

    Which demonstrates (proves) that there never was any so-called anti-Semitism to begin with. And that rather for hating Jews for being Jews, what some people are guilty of is hating *some* Jews for what they did or are doing. (working feverishly toward the genocide of Palestinian Arabs and European whites)

    No ‘far right-winger’ vis-à-vis the immigration debate hates Stephan Miller, or even the Jews of the ADL, for all I know. But they sure do despise, (and rightfully so) the agenda of *some* Jews (Noel Ignatiev, Barbara Spectre, et al) to see them and their white families maligned and hated and discriminated against and crushed under a juggernaut of non-white immigrants and “refugees” that will erase their unique phenotype (and creative genius) off the face of the planet for all time.

    And it’s nice to see other Jews who feel that such a development isn’t a Jewish imperative.

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    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try "I wouldn't bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She's so anti-English. I think it's got something to do with the loss of her family's gold mine in South Africa**".

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is "anti-Semitic" not a perfectly good generalisation about others' generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?
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  99. Incitatus says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Hitler resurrected Germany.

    “Hitler resurrected Germany.”

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945

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    Gòod to see you back. BTW while I know where your clever humorous moniker comes from I have forgotten whether you are Jewish - maybe English Jewish from German background?
    , @renfro
    Ironically Germany did rebuild itself into the economically strongest nation in Europe..quite a feat for a population whose infrastructure was almost totally destroyed.
    , @Wally
    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged "order" to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up .... as usual?

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a 'gas chamber' at Majdanek, at:
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/two-to-3.GIF
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/doorcasting.jpg
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/gsPANZERL.GIF

    www.codoh.com

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  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well the seriously big money has to be the trillions wasted on arms and war in Afghanistan (including Pakistan) and the ME. I don’t suppose you would contest that. Any little gains (alleged) for Silverstein or short sellers are just peripheral peanuts…

    So, how does your convinced thinking handle the inherent chanciness of concocting and using an excuse to bomb Afghanistan (which might have given up bin Laden or found his dead body killed in an air strike) so as to be able to pursue the big money Balkanising war 2000 miles away in Iraq?

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  101. AaronB says:
    @Art
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is ---- Hitler - Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn’t you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn’t even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you’d become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn’t even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn’t appear “wrong” – you’d behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four – literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn’t strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can’t build technology. But it’s worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don’t realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

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    That is good description also.
    , @Antlitz Grollheim

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.
     
    Well put, and excellent comments in general.
    , @Art
    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.

    There is one very important aspect to this winning arguments with lies and untruths – hate. Residual hate for the coercive liar.

    The last sentence of Hitler’s Mein Kampf quote, I did not publish. It is “Gradually I began to hate them.”

    Needless to say, the cultural of Jews who coercively argued with Hitler paid a price down the line.

    When an argument is not truthfully and honorably settled – it is not settled – period. There are negative residual effects.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Rurik (from another location)

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong
     

     I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.
     
    hmm

    so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power'

    wow
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  102. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik
    One thing that the existence of Jews like Stephen Miller help to demonstrate (conclusively prove), is that the smear of 'anti-Semite is a fraud and a lie.

    Because the whole idea of a person being an anti-Semite, is that they irrationally hate all Jews simply for being Jews.

    whereas I don't know of any of these elusive 'anti-Semites' who've chimed in with their hatred of Stephen Miller = the Jew.

    Which demonstrates (proves) that there never was any so-called anti-Semitism to begin with. And that rather for hating Jews for being Jews, what some people are guilty of is hating *some* Jews for what they did or are doing. (working feverishly toward the genocide of Palestinian Arabs and European whites)

    No 'far right-winger' vis-à-vis the immigration debate hates Stephan Miller, or even the Jews of the ADL, for all I know. But they sure do despise, (and rightfully so) the agenda of *some* Jews (Noel Ignatiev, Barbara Spectre, et al) to see them and their white families maligned and hated and discriminated against and crushed under a juggernaut of non-white immigrants and "refugees" that will erase their unique phenotype (and creative genius) off the face of the planet for all time.

    And it's nice to see other Jews who feel that such a development isn't a Jewish imperative.

    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try “I wouldn’t bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She’s so anti-English. I think it’s got something to do with the loss of her family’s gold mine in South Africa**”.

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is “anti-Semitic” not a perfectly good generalisation about others’ generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

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    "Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR ... "
    What's the problem with being "anti-semitic"? Certainly Jews are anti-gentile.
    The fact of the matter is that 'Anon' & those like him are in a state of panic that I & many others have repeatedly shown that the '6M Jews' is an impossible lie. Laughable even.

    Being a Jews First, anti-gentile Zionist, he tries the & old decreasingly ineffective 'anti-semite' canard. Which will never change the fact that Jews have lied big time about their fake '6M' and people are finding out about it.
    From the horse's mouth:


    "We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, 'Well that cannot be a lie!'. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a 'truth.'"
    - from 'Propaganda', by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays
     
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HH-July2017-30secs+DonationPitch.mp4
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0
    , @renfro

    anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews
     
    It is perfectly legitimate to hold one opinion of 'the Jewish group, the tribe' ..iow, generalize...and a different opinion of a Jewish ' individual' .

    There are exceptions in every group....there were likely some cannibals that didn't eat people but also likely very few. So inviting cannibals into your camp would not have been wise.

    So allowing the Jewish tribe into the US was not wise considering their ingratitude to America and the damage the have done in our government and society.
    , @Rabbi High Comma
    Your comments are consistently anti-gentile, and frankly your reflexive racism is disgusting. It's attitudes like this that led the highly-jewish Bolsheviks to murder 20 million gentiles. The Weather Underground (6 of 7 leaders jewish) planned to build death camps in the SW US where they estimated they would execute another 20,000,000 White goyim.

    Never again! Never again will jews be allowed to murder with such bloodlust. I am planning on becoming the goy Simon Wiesenthal to hunt down these jewish monsters. They will be extradited to Poland for speedy trials and executions. Can you spare some shekels?

    PS - God spoke to me. He said jews misunderstood. It's Whites that are Chosen, not jews. Please spread the word.

    Shalom.
    , @Rurik (from another location)

    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?
     
    gosh

    that's the most hilarious and biting commentary I've ever read

    willingness to generalise negatively about Jews
     
    about Jews, or about something specific that some Jews either did or are doing?

    “I wouldn’t bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She’s so anti-English. I think it’s got something to do with the loss of her family’s gold mine in South Africa**”.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Oppenheimer

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.
     
    some Palestinians also have a good reason for being suspicious of Jews.

    If you were to ask me, should Stanley Fisher have been appointed to vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, well I may very well have wondered why an Israeli Jew, born in Rhodesia, should be the person to trust with the US Treasury, I might have balked, and wondered at his loyalties.

    Would that make me a de facto anti-Semite? Because the whole notion is that you are not allowed to question or criticize Israeli Jews, or it's proof that you're an anti-Semite, yes?

    Just as you're not allowed (if you're a goyim) to criticize anything Jews do collectively, like shoot children in Palestine for target practice (or fun), or alter our immigration policies; or = it means you're an anti-Semite who hates all Jews (simply because they follow a different religion).

    Why is “anti-Semitic” not a perfectly good generalisation about others’ generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?
     
    for one because, like 'racist' it's become so overused as to be laughable.

    and, its always used as a smear to mislead and demonize, rather than inform.

    if you wanted to say that some KKK imbecile somewhere hates all Jews, and believes 'the blood of Christ be on them' all, for all eternity, and won't talk to them or associate with them because they're all bad, then fine. I'll concede that there really might be actual 'anti-Semite in the world.

    But 99,9999959939929 percent of the time, the smear is used to demonize their victims and benefit Jews at the expense of others who often have valid criticisms of some things that some Jews do.

    K?
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  103. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    "Hitler resurrected Germany."
     
    "If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945

    Gòod to see you back. BTW while I know where your clever humorous moniker comes from I have forgotten whether you are Jewish – maybe English Jewish from German background?

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  104. renfro says:
    @Art
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is ---- Hitler - Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    Well Hitler gave a good description of conversing with Jews

    But here’s the real skinny on it:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-shasha/what-is-pilpul-and-why-on_b_507522.html

    What Is Pilpul , And Why On Earth Should I Care About It?

    By David Shasha
    For those who have any concern with the Middle East conflict or with Judaism, what you know — or do not know — about pilpul is something upon which your well-being could depend. Ignorance of pilpul is a very dangerous thing, something that would allow your interlocutor to have the upper hand in ways that you could not begin to even imagine.

    What is thought to be the Jewish “genius” is often a mark of how pilpul is deployed. The rhetorical tricks of pilpul make true rational discussion impossible; any “discussion” is about trying to “prove” a point that has already been established. There is little use trying to argue in this context, because any points being made will be twisted and turned to validate the already-fixed position.
    Pilpul is the rhetorical means to mark as “true” that which cannot ever be disputed by rational means.

    What this means for contemporary Jewish discourse is critical: Even though many contemporary Jews are not observant, pilpul continues to be deployed. Pilpul occurs any time the speaker is committed to “prove” his point regardless of the evidence in front of him. The casuistic aspect of this hair-splitting leads to a labyrinthine form of argument where the speaker blows enough rhetorical smoke to make his interlocutor submit. Reason is not an issue when pilpul takes over: what counts is the establishment of a fixed, immutable point that can never truly be disputed

    As if this was not enough, the Tosafists instituted one more pilpul principle into Talmudic discourse. This was called the Lav Davqa method. In English we might call it the “Not Quite” way of reading a text. When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!

    The contentiousness of the Middle East conflict is intimately informed by pilpul. Whether it is Alan Dershowitz or Noam Chomsky, both of them Ashkenazim who had traditional Jewish educations, the terms of the debate are consistently framed by pilpul. What is most unfortunate about pilpul — and this is something that will be familiar to anyone who has followed the controversies involving Israel and Palestine — is that, since the rational has been removed from the process, all that is left is yelling, irrational emotionalism, and, ultimately, the threat of violence.

    As I have said there really is no Jewish genius…..people sometimes mistake their arguments and writing for intelligence because they don’t understand what’s being said or written and think they arent bright enough to understand it….. the truth is they don’t understand it because its just glibberish babble and verbosity….iow pilpul.

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    Thank you again, renfro, for excellent information.

    Many times I have ruminated extensively on attempting to 'model' a particular trend; so it is with the case of these argumentation techniques taught in the Talmud.
    It is very gratifying to find, contrary to the torrent of social prescriptions against even the consideration, that 'it is so!', and my own well-cycled considerations were very accurate.

    Have a better one.
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  105. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Randal

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?
     
    Well one thing that would be nice would be more organised and high profile jewish rejection of the pursuit by so many of their well-funded representatives of anti-free speech laws and prosecutions.

    The initially private prosecution of Alison Chabloz by jewish identity lobby organisations for merely posting a song to the internet represented a new low, and jewish opposition to this crime against liberty committed in their name has been disorganised and muted. And jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting "holocaust denial" and "antiracist" speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream jewish organisations.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let's see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for "holocaust denial" laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don't like.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let’s see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for “holocaust denial” laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don’t like.

    Unlikely to happen.

    Instead, what may be a little less unlikely is for the average voter to wake up to the reality that our constitution is under assault, and not just by the Jews. While they are invariably the pied pipers leading the assault on our nation and its people, far too many of our so called elected leaders are full on board with the program as well–bought and paid for whores. If the average American understood what was happening today he or she might wake up and do something about it.

    Our leaders need to start fearing us– that we KNOW that they are, with few exceptions, treacherous slime serving their masters and mammon.

    Will it happen?

    Unlikely without a significant economic shock I fear.

    I can only hope. But as the rot at the core of our so called Republic becomes ever more obvious even to the most obtuse American, battle lines will start to form.

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  106. renfro says:
    @AaronB
    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn't you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn't even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you'd become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn't even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn't appear "wrong" - you'd behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four - literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn't strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can't build technology. But it's worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don't realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

    That is good description also.

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  107. @Art
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is ---- Hitler - Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    Did you keep it? Are you you? Is I. C. now in mental hospital?

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  108. renfro says:

    Good example of why Jews shouldn’t be in America.

    Florida Lawmakers Aim to Cancel Lorde Concert, Citing anti-BDS Law
    February 9, 2018

    ”Florida Lawmakers are pushing to cancel Lorde’s scheduled concerts in the state after she cancelled her appearance in Israel to support the BDS movement, according to the Orlando Weekly.
    Florida is one of 20 states that have a law barring state funds from doing business with entities associated with BDS, the movement to boycott, divest, and sanction Israel over the Israel-Palestine conflict. The Florida law states that businesses that receive state funds are prohibited from conducting business over $1 million with any organization engaged in a boycott of Israel.
    Yesterday, Republican state Rep. Randy Fine sent letters to the Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority and the Tampa Sports Authority asking them to cancel Lorde’s appearances there, scheduled for April.
    “Florida has no tolerance for anti-Semitism and boycotts intended to destroy the State of Israel,” said Fine. “Current statutes are clear – local governments cannot do business with companies that participate in anti-Semitic boycotts of Israel. When Lorde joined the boycott in December, she and her companies became subject to that statute. The taxpayers of Miami and Tampa should not have to facilitate bigotry and anti-Semitism, and I look forward to the Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority and the Tampa Sports Authority complying with the law and canceling these concerts.”
    Fine and Speaker Richard Corcoran would like the state anti-BDS law to go further than it does. They are proposing eliminating the $1 million threshold.

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  109. renfro says:
    @Incitatus

    "Hitler resurrected Germany."
     
    "If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945

    Ironically Germany did rebuild itself into the economically strongest nation in Europe..quite a feat for a population whose infrastructure was almost totally destroyed.

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    "Ironically Germany did rebuild itself into the economically strongest nation in Europe..quite a feat for a population whose infrastructure was almost totally destroyed."
     
    Postwar Germany is nothing short of miraculous. Germans deserve high praise. Rebuilt from utter ruin. Physical, industrial, economic, political, cultural, etc. All the more remarkable after suffering criminally incompetent WW1 and WW2 leadership.

    Jean Edward Smith: 'Lucius D. Clay: An American Life' is an interesting account.
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  110. Sum says: • Website

    As a fellow right wing American Jew, I couldn’t agree more with this article. Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements. About 25% of American Jews voted Trump in 2016, but I suspect that figure will be higher in 2020 as Jews realize the slander they were fed about him was false.

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    Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements.
     
    Agreed. If more and more Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement. Absent a signficant change in this direction anger towards the Jews will be magnified and our so called Republic will continue to be degraded.
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  111. @Father Coughlin
    "In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree."

    Wait. I imagine the cell biology of a parasite is far different from that of misletoe. And the connotation in vernacular English is WAY WAY different.

    I'm getting echoes, here, of a "special" translation, same as Ahmadinejad supposedly saying in Iranian that "Israel will be exterminated".

    schmarotzen has a less clinical connotation as in “moocher”. English translations of NS terms always sound clinical, ignoring the way German terms are always interwoven with more cultural associations.

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  112. AaronB says:

    Genius.

    Why have whites proven vulnerable to pilpul?

    European culture seeks to “prove” nothing, but to “deconstruct”. Therefore they don’t understand the psychology of “proving”.

    Also, don’t underestimate the power of what I call “mysterious praise”. I was having dinner with a Jewish friend last week, and he was waxing lyrical about the awesomeness of the Talmud. He couldn’t quite put into words what was so awesome about it, but was going on about how spiritual it was. He couldn’t say how, tho. But he would send me lectures explaining it. He never did.

    The effect comes from implication and mystery. If he had mentioned anything specific, however amazing, the spell would have been broken. By staying vague, it intrigues and seduces.

    Its myth making, and it’s powerful. Imagine if whites would lyrically declaim on the mysterious awesomeness of European culture. They couldn’t quite say what it is, or put it into words at the moment, but there’s no doubt it’s amazing. Some other time it can be explained.

    The effect of that would be completely different from talking about democracy, science, etc. It would elevate European culture to the realm of the sacred and out of the realm of things like democrscy, etc.

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    That was in response to renfro.
    , @Antlitz Grollheim
    The way Europeans of old, and the fascists, overcame the tendency to analysis was through images. Whether actual images or vague intimations of an otherworldly greatness, they establish independent of analysis transcendent goals to aspire to.

    The future will begin aesthetically.
    , @Rurik (from another location)

    European culture seeks to “prove” nothing, but to “deconstruct”. Therefore they don’t understand the psychology of “proving”.
     
    yea, right

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica
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  113. @SolontoCroesus
    I don't think MK is boring. Difficult, perhaps, but not boring. I avoid like the plague versions of MK that have been heavily annotated, such as the Raoul de Roussy de Sales version.

    I've been working on a project since Twelfth Night, and an extended passage from MK ch. 3 has caught my attention. I don't understand many of the specific political references AH makes to the various factions in Austrian government, etc., but the key point that applied directly to my project is that Christians, especially Protestants but also Catholics, are so committed to the abstractions of their beliefs -- i.e. "democracy," and "tolerance," and "love everyone," that they cling to those abstractions even at the dire cost of their concrete well-being (my quick and dirty précis of Hitler's main points in this passage).

    Here's part of that chapter, from Mein Kampf:

    This unfortunate habit of looking at all national demands from the viewpoint of a pre-conceived notion makes it impossible for us to see the subjective side of a thing which objectively contradicts one's own doctrine. It finally leads to a complete reversion in the relation of means to an end. Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the 'Authority of the State'. In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the 'Authority of the State' is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself; and he looks upon that as sufficient apology for his own miserable existence. Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance,anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being, who constituted the parliamentary majority, were small and incompetent men or maybe even on a lower grade of inferiority; because to such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the 'Authority of the State', and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of 'democracy'.

    In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations. The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of 'solidarity', but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a--German.

    It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease. . . .
     
    (nb. #1. I'm mentioned Prof. David Engel's lecture series, Understanding the Holocaust. Engel has a very unpleasant voice -- at least, it offends my ear. There's one snippet that I can't get out of my head: Engel says -- actually, barks, that "Hitler is all emotion, all ego, no intellect, no reason, just pure hate . . ." I'm not so sure about that.

    Another idiot Jew who jerks off by vilifying Hitler uses Wagner's operas as his vehicle. He concedes that Wagner was brilliant, but condemns Wagner because "Hitler liked him" (and also because Wagner wrote the "antisemitic" Judenthum, a strong critique of Jewish music-style. ) Yes, Hitler did like Wagner's operas. Hitler could, and did, hum or whistle the various leitmotifs from the Ring Cycle. I think there are ~250 of them. I wonder how many of them Engel might recognize? )

    (nb. #2. RobinG mentioned David Swanson, and he and his wild reaction to "Charlottesville" came to mind as I read this chapter from MK. Swanson is a pacifist, but he does not seem to see propaganda -- i.e. being systematically and persistently lied to and demonized -- as an act of war against which a person who values his liberty is duty-bound to resist and defend, with equal force.)

    read the book “Hitler’s Vienna” to get a good overview of the influence of Austrian multiculti on Hitler

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  114. @AaronB
    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn't you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn't even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you'd become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn't even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn't appear "wrong" - you'd behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four - literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn't strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can't build technology. But it's worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don't realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Well put, and excellent comments in general.

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  115. AaronB says:
    @AaronB
    Genius.

    Why have whites proven vulnerable to pilpul?

    European culture seeks to "prove" nothing, but to "deconstruct". Therefore they don't understand the psychology of "proving".

    Also, don't underestimate the power of what I call "mysterious praise". I was having dinner with a Jewish friend last week, and he was waxing lyrical about the awesomeness of the Talmud. He couldn't quite put into words what was so awesome about it, but was going on about how spiritual it was. He couldn't say how, tho. But he would send me lectures explaining it. He never did.

    The effect comes from implication and mystery. If he had mentioned anything specific, however amazing, the spell would have been broken. By staying vague, it intrigues and seduces.

    Its myth making, and it's powerful. Imagine if whites would lyrically declaim on the mysterious awesomeness of European culture. They couldn't quite say what it is, or put it into words at the moment, but there's no doubt it's amazing. Some other time it can be explained.

    The effect of that would be completely different from talking about democracy, science, etc. It would elevate European culture to the realm of the sacred and out of the realm of things like democrscy, etc.

    That was in response to renfro.

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  116. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent piece.
    But my criticism, as always, is with the underlying unworthiness of the concept that the author identifies as being ‘a Jew’.
    I make no excuses for religions, superstitions or tribalisms – they are not positives.
    Judaism is a religion. People of a very wide spectrum identify as ‘Jews’ for a variety of reasons – religious, genetic, cultural, ethnic, philosophical; and some of these categories can overlap (or not).
    But one can no more be born ‘a Jew’ than a Knight of Columbus or Republican.
    Making oneself ‘other’ based on religion or other artificial categories isn’t a good goal, and has caused much misery and confusion.
    One doesn’t need this insular meme in order to use, strengthen and develop whatever natural talents and intelligence one possesses, or to share their fruits with one’s fellows.

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  117. @AaronB
    Genius.

    Why have whites proven vulnerable to pilpul?

    European culture seeks to "prove" nothing, but to "deconstruct". Therefore they don't understand the psychology of "proving".

    Also, don't underestimate the power of what I call "mysterious praise". I was having dinner with a Jewish friend last week, and he was waxing lyrical about the awesomeness of the Talmud. He couldn't quite put into words what was so awesome about it, but was going on about how spiritual it was. He couldn't say how, tho. But he would send me lectures explaining it. He never did.

    The effect comes from implication and mystery. If he had mentioned anything specific, however amazing, the spell would have been broken. By staying vague, it intrigues and seduces.

    Its myth making, and it's powerful. Imagine if whites would lyrically declaim on the mysterious awesomeness of European culture. They couldn't quite say what it is, or put it into words at the moment, but there's no doubt it's amazing. Some other time it can be explained.

    The effect of that would be completely different from talking about democracy, science, etc. It would elevate European culture to the realm of the sacred and out of the realm of things like democrscy, etc.

    The way Europeans of old, and the fascists, overcame the tendency to analysis was through images. Whether actual images or vague intimations of an otherworldly greatness, they establish independent of analysis transcendent goals to aspire to.

    The future will begin aesthetically.

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    That would be great. Aesthetics gives life meaning. Analysis robs it of meaning.

    Ultimately tho, analysis has its place, but it can't be the supreme place in any culture. That way lies death.

    We don't need to swing to any unbalanced extremes. We can enjoy a harmonious and well integrated culture that reflects and satisfies the entire human being. For too long we have been a culture of unbalanced extremes.
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  118. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try "I wouldn't bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She's so anti-English. I think it's got something to do with the loss of her family's gold mine in South Africa**".

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is "anti-Semitic" not a perfectly good generalisation about others' generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    “Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR … ”
    What’s the problem with being “anti-semitic”? Certainly Jews are anti-gentile.
    The fact of the matter is that ‘Anon’ & those like him are in a state of panic that I & many others have repeatedly shown that the ’6M Jews’ is an impossible lie. Laughable even.

    Being a Jews First, anti-gentile Zionist, he tries the & old decreasingly ineffective ‘anti-semite’ canard. Which will never change the fact that Jews have lied big time about their fake ’6M’ and people are finding out about it.
    From the horse’s mouth:

    “We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, ‘Well that cannot be a lie!’. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a ‘truth.’”
    - from ‘Propaganda’, by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays

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    Well let's forget the 6 million while we find out what you do believe and why. The German SS led and Wehrmacht supported Einsatzgruppen undoubtedly existed and operated vigorously from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. They started rounding up and killing Communist officials and Jews and shooting them from the start did they not? Was Babi Yar for example just a rogue exception to the carrying out of Nazi policy under Himmler? So what's your big point? That American Jews and Israel woke up to the fact some time in the 50s or 60s that they could get a lot of mileage out of the Holocaust for causes they supported? Well, duh! And I'll concede that the 6 million (with absolutely nothing to do with all those NYT references you keep on copying and pasting**) is a bit of a totemic figure because I can recall a Jewish lawyer I was travelling with as long ago as the 70s pulling me up when I said that I had read something which suggested the figure was more like 4 million. So what?

    **You seem to have latched on to what probably kept on turning up as a convenient figure in the newspapers' cutting books and archives. It would have been perhaps the approximate number of European Jews circa 1860, the number in Poland by 1913 or 1930 or whatever. Coincidence plus convenience but I can't even imagine what magical use of it you have in mind. BTW I read somewhere that Martin Gilbert (the Jewish biographer of Churchill) said 78 per cent of Jews under Nazi control had been killed. And he accepted the 6 million I think. That leaves 1.7 million "survivors" out of 7.7 million. Presumably that 7.7 million doesn't include all Soviet Jews or French Jews in the Vichy south. How do you do the figures?
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  119. Wally says: • Website
    @Incitatus

    "Hitler resurrected Germany."
     
    "If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945

    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a ‘gas chamber’ at Majdanek, at:
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.htmlhttp://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/doorcasting.jpg
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    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?
     
    Its in wiki...which is not reliable
    But also quoted in several books, first one to use it in was The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and it seems to have been repeated by others after that.
    BUT....none of the people or books using that quote give a citation or source of how they came by it....so without a source as to how they got what Hitler said, not even a 'as told to me by' its hard to say if its accurate or not.
    , @Incitatus

    "Please show us the actual German original of this alleged "order" to Speer."
     
    Hitler ordered the compulsory evacuation of the entire civilian population of threatened western areas, by foot if necessary, 18 Mar '45 saying "We can no longer take regard of the population." He issued the 'Nerobefehl' the following day:

    "All military transport, communications, industrial and supplies installations as well as material assets within Reich territory, which the enemy can render usable immediately or within the foreseeable future, are to be destroyed."-Adolf Hitler, Führerbefehl 19 Mar 1945;

    Implementation was tasked to military command (transport and communications) and Gauleiters (industry, economic installations). Speer objected, eliciting Hitler's:

    "If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker…"

    Hitler's "resurrection of Germany" was a suicide pact.

    Sources: Speer in 'Inside the Third Reich'. Ian Kershaw 'The End', Joachim Fest: 'Speer', most Nüremberg accounts (Gilbert, Galbraith, Taylor, Conot, Neave, etc: Speer's defense hinged partly on his refusal to carry out the order). If memory serves, it's also in Sereny: 'Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth' and most standard histories.

    "Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?"
     
    You mean like "engineer" Fred Leuchter's professional degree and license? Good question Wally. Why not ask Dolf at your next séance (hope his headache is better)?

    "…standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a 'gas chamber' at Majdanek"
     
    The smoking gun! Well done!

    Some may insist it was used because Heinie couldn't find a gas-chamber door at the local Heimdepot. False, false! Don't you believe it! As we all know, gas-chamber doors are as common as - well, bricks and kitchen cabinets. Why, just last week Lowes had a sale on DeLuxe Jumbos with peep-holes and auto closers in genuine simulated oak-grain. Thought about upgrading, but still have several good years in the old one. Besides, heart's set on a Dutch door version in knotty pine. One thing's for sure. When the time comes you won't catch me making do with a plain old shelter door! No siree!
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  120. AaronB says:
    @Antlitz Grollheim
    The way Europeans of old, and the fascists, overcame the tendency to analysis was through images. Whether actual images or vague intimations of an otherworldly greatness, they establish independent of analysis transcendent goals to aspire to.

    The future will begin aesthetically.

    That would be great. Aesthetics gives life meaning. Analysis robs it of meaning.

    Ultimately tho, analysis has its place, but it can’t be the supreme place in any culture. That way lies death.

    We don’t need to swing to any unbalanced extremes. We can enjoy a harmonious and well integrated culture that reflects and satisfies the entire human being. For too long we have been a culture of unbalanced extremes.

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  121. It seems that Jews enjoy the masochist side of their culture, where 3000 years of persecutions trouble making around Asia, Egypt and Europe should be enough to make them BUDDIST and just melt away as a freemason society, but then, yes, keep your friends as you like, that’s what everyone does just fine….

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  122. @SnakeEyes
    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

    I gave you the troll tag because there isn’t a tag yet for shill. It’s OK, though. You qualify for both.

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  123. @Z-man
    What!, a righteous Jew? Good article but he never mentions the big gorilla in the room, Izruel. i.e., the murderous, land grabbing Zionist entity.

    He mentions it, but only as a safe haven for when the parasite kills the host and has to flee.

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  124. @Art

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.
     
    Israel losing an F-16 is a major lose. The invincible is no longer invincible. (The cost of an F-16 is greater then anything they blew up.)

    Israel is screwed - the last thing they really want to risk is an all out Syrian war. That would be a long war. Israel can not sustain a long war.

    Their demands of Russia are pleas for help.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. When the Jews come calling - what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do --- rush to war for Israel - or be an American for America?

    ” When the Jews come calling – what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do — rush to war for Israel – or be an American for America?”

    This is a trick question, right?

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  125. @NoseytheDuke
    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    For us to resolve and to identify the responsible people behind 9/11, we must look internally specially amongst the gang of neoconservatives who first have the best interest of Israel in their hearts! They knew that can cheer GWB/Cheney in achieving their goals! But one has to give the neoconservative gang credit because thus far they have accomplished what they had planned!

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  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    "Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR ... "
    What's the problem with being "anti-semitic"? Certainly Jews are anti-gentile.
    The fact of the matter is that 'Anon' & those like him are in a state of panic that I & many others have repeatedly shown that the '6M Jews' is an impossible lie. Laughable even.

    Being a Jews First, anti-gentile Zionist, he tries the & old decreasingly ineffective 'anti-semite' canard. Which will never change the fact that Jews have lied big time about their fake '6M' and people are finding out about it.
    From the horse's mouth:


    "We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, 'Well that cannot be a lie!'. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a 'truth.'"
    - from 'Propaganda', by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays
     
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    Well let’s forget the 6 million while we find out what you do believe and why. The German SS led and Wehrmacht supported Einsatzgruppen undoubtedly existed and operated vigorously from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. They started rounding up and killing Communist officials and Jews and shooting them from the start did they not? Was Babi Yar for example just a rogue exception to the carrying out of Nazi policy under Himmler? So what’s your big point? That American Jews and Israel woke up to the fact some time in the 50s or 60s that they could get a lot of mileage out of the Holocaust for causes they supported? Well, duh! And I’ll concede that the 6 million (with absolutely nothing to do with all those NYT references you keep on copying and pasting**) is a bit of a totemic figure because I can recall a Jewish lawyer I was travelling with as long ago as the 70s pulling me up when I said that I had read something which suggested the figure was more like 4 million. So what?

    **You seem to have latched on to what probably kept on turning up as a convenient figure in the newspapers’ cutting books and archives. It would have been perhaps the approximate number of European Jews circa 1860, the number in Poland by 1913 or 1930 or whatever. Coincidence plus convenience but I can’t even imagine what magical use of it you have in mind. BTW I read somewhere that Martin Gilbert (the Jewish biographer of Churchill) said 78 per cent of Jews under Nazi control had been killed. And he accepted the 6 million I think. That leaves 1.7 million “survivors” out of 7.7 million. Presumably that 7.7 million doesn’t include all Soviet Jews or French Jews in the Vichy south. How do you do the figures?

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    I know much more than you, that's certainly obvious. Science trumps Zionism.
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight the non-uniformed terrorists / 'partisans' who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.
    Bab Yar & the alleged 34,000 supposedly shot there is pure propaganda. There are no excavations & human remains to be seen. Statements about it are utterly impossible & contradictory,

    The fake 'holocaust' '6M has a lot to do with the NYT articles from 1869. All the '6M claims' are bogus & easily shown s such. They demonstrate that Jew have been faking the cabbalistic number from, well 1869.
    Heretofore their latest Big Lie has stuck. Zionist control of 'the media' & 'academia' enables such fraud. The Allied military also played along and actually staged events like the absurd 'shrunken heads, lampshades from humans, soap made from Jews', etc, etc. since it deflected from the enormous mass Allied WWII war crimes.
    Martin Gilbert? Seriously? He's been shredded even by those in the mainstream.
    All you have are such things ' I heard this, I heard that'. What you heard is scientifically impossible nonsense You're merely referencing a form of religion, that is very profitable & beneficial to Jews, aka: a scam.
    There simply was no '6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers' and there is no proof for them'. You certainly don't have it.
    All of what you speak has been demolished repeatedly by Revisionist scholars.
    If you really think you know what you're talking about then debate us, man up. All Revisionists are former believers. http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Only liars demand censorship.

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    , @Mulegino1
    The "Holocaust" narrative is easy to deconstruct when one descends from vague and nebulous generalities, i.e., the pseudo-religious narrative- to specific historical facts and events which are either empirically verifiable or falsifiable.

    With respect to the alleged crimes of the Einsatzgruppen, a perfect example of this is the alleged massacre at Babi Yar ravine outside of Kiev, where, it is alleged, the Einsatzgruppen murdered upwards of 30,000 Jews, buried them inside the ravine, then subsequently exhumed the mass graves and burned them to ashes.

    While it is a documented fact that there were reprisal executions for the terrorist bombings which killed many members of the German occupation forces in Kiev (which certainly involved some Jews and which were not illegal under the international laws regarding the conduct of war in force at that time) there is not a shred of physical or documentary evidence that the numbers of those executed reached the thousands, let alone tens of thousands:

    There are no traces of mass graves or human "cremains" dating from that period commensurate with many hundreds, let alone thousands of victims.

    Aerial reconnaissance photos taken around the time of the "mass exhumations and cremations" of the bodies of the victims show virtually no major disturbances of the ground in the ravine, and no access roads into and out of the ravine. Given the fact that some 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been required for such a massive outdoor cremation, how would the Germans have pulled this off without easy access to the ravine? Also, where are the huge quantities of wood ash?

    Given the fact that the ravine appears to have been used as a place of execution by the NKVD long before the German invasion, and the complete absence of any physical evidence, it is entirely likely that the Babi Yar legend is a completely free invention of the Soviet propaganda machine.
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  127. Duglarri says:

    Wow, you think that in the interest of saving the white, European-based domination of the United States, Jews should throw in with the people who are fighting to save the white, European-based domination of the United States?

    Does the fact that those people don’t consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    This does not strike me as a well-considered long-term strategy.

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    Does the fact that those people don’t consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    Really? What idiotic nonsense. Who is doing what to blacks and Mexicans? You must be some brain-dead black or Chicano studies fool to post this. However, what do you think the blacks and Mexicans think of Jews?

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  128. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Leisure Larry
    Jews.
    Help.
    Whites.

    Same sentence.

    My computer just burst into flames.

    "Help the Gentiles." is the opposite of what the Talmud commands.

    What do you think “the Talmud” is? What version are you referring to? And how many Jews study it or regard it as anything more important than a rabbinical commentary on the Hebrew Bible?

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  129. renfro says:
    @Anon
    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try "I wouldn't bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She's so anti-English. I think it's got something to do with the loss of her family's gold mine in South Africa**".

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is "anti-Semitic" not a perfectly good generalisation about others' generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews

    It is perfectly legitimate to hold one opinion of ‘the Jewish group, the tribe’ ..iow, generalize…and a different opinion of a Jewish ‘ individual’ .

    There are exceptions in every group….there were likely some cannibals that didn’t eat people but also likely very few. So inviting cannibals into your camp would not have been wise.

    So allowing the Jewish tribe into the US was not wise considering their ingratitude to America and the damage the have done in our government and society.

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  130. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Toby Keith
    The Jewish God has commanded Jews to subjugate the Gentile world and exterminate all who resist.

    Whites don't need that kind of "help".

    And Whites don't need "Jewish brainpower."

    Really, that is why Jews hate us: Our flat IQ distribution shows that we produce plenty of our own geniuses (genii), and Jewish supremacist ideology will not forgive us for that.

    “Our flat [sic]] IQ distribution”!!! Are you a Hottentot? Or do you just know *absolutely nothing* about what IQ tests measure, how they are scored and how the results are distributed? Why do you think about 2 or 3 per cent of the American population – those with Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry – have about 30 per cent of the Nobel Prizes won by Americans?

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    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don't tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.)
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  131. MarkinLA says:
    @Duglarri
    Wow, you think that in the interest of saving the white, European-based domination of the United States, Jews should throw in with the people who are fighting to save the white, European-based domination of the United States?

    Does the fact that those people don't consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    This does not strike me as a well-considered long-term strategy.

    Does the fact that those people don’t consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    Really? What idiotic nonsense. Who is doing what to blacks and Mexicans? You must be some brain-dead black or Chicano studies fool to post this. However, what do you think the blacks and Mexicans think of Jews?

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  132. @Anon
    Don't worry about him. He's probsbly one of those who credits some brilliant plotters with such Machievellian wiles that Cheney and Rumsfeld were worked up by there being a plausible case for bombing Afghanistan to committing the US to carrying out Israel's ME Balkanisation plan starting with Iraq. And he probably believes a plan to demolish WTC7 with explosives was part of the brilliant scheming. His thoughts got stuck 15 years ago.

    It was that Irishman, Larry Silverstein who said re WTC 7, “we had to make the decision to pull it”.

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    As you didn't hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy's black humour and him or his wife saying "OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode". Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words.... and maybe it meant "pull out" when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building - the "it" being the efforts to suppress the fire.
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  133. I grew up around White Christians; work with them; live amongst them; and count many as friends, neighbors, colleagues or teachers. Jewish neurosis or not, a generalized Jewish fear of American Whites is, in my view, insane.
    “I have White Christian friends” is a classic anti-White trope. It is like saying “some of my best friends are Jews.” Goy hatred is normal. Try to graft a Goyish organ on a Jew and you will see organ rejection. BTW. You can convert to Christianity, but you cannot really convert to Judaism, it is only make-believe since there is no way to provide a convert with a Jewish soul, at least in the first generation.

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  134. @Anonymous
    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw--nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.

    You are half way there. Soon you will realize that no hijacked planes were intercepted because there were no hijacked planes to intercept.

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  135. renfro says:
    @Wally
    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged "order" to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up .... as usual?

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a 'gas chamber' at Majdanek, at:
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/two-to-3.GIF
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/doorcasting.jpg
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/gsPANZERL.GIF

    www.codoh.com

    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?

    Its in wiki…which is not reliable
    But also quoted in several books, first one to use it in was The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and it seems to have been repeated by others after that.
    BUT….none of the people or books using that quote give a citation or source of how they came by it….so without a source as to how they got what Hitler said, not even a ‘as told to me by’ its hard to say if its accurate or not.

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    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    As it would not necessarily be in Speer's interests to acknowledge that he worked for the man who could order that it would have made sense to ask Speer and no doubt there are records of his being asked about it. Did he deny it? [No,it seems. Its in his memoirs]. I've just Googled and of course it wasn't originally an "order" to Speer. The following suggests there would have been lots of copies of Hitler's "Nero Decree" floating around even if little action resulting from it and it seems plausible that Speer was put in charge of the destruction ad a way of Hitler backimg fown.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650213/This-week-in-history-Hitler-orders-the-destruction-of-Germany.html
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  136. @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    You are saying that Jews should annihilate the rest of mankind. On top of that you are perpetuating a lie as your justification. Who has no shame?

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  137. @Anonymous
    "Our flat [sic]] IQ distribution"!!! Are you a Hottentot? Or do you just know *absolutely nothing* about what IQ tests measure, how they are scored and how the results are distributed? Why do you think about 2 or 3 per cent of the American population - those with Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry - have about 30 per cent of the Nobel Prizes won by Americans?

    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don’t tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.)

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    Spell out the names and procedures which show, according to you, that tje award giving has been for 80 years or more largely dominated by Jews. You can't. Anyway there are plenty of other figures correlating high IQ Jews with intellectusl achievement tight up to the highest judicial appointments. And you are not going to support the "flat distribution" nonsense are you?
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  138. Svigor says:

    If that’s true, then Jews don’t know what’s good for them.

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  139. @Randal

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?
     
    Well one thing that would be nice would be more organised and high profile jewish rejection of the pursuit by so many of their well-funded representatives of anti-free speech laws and prosecutions.

    The initially private prosecution of Alison Chabloz by jewish identity lobby organisations for merely posting a song to the internet represented a new low, and jewish opposition to this crime against liberty committed in their name has been disorganised and muted. And jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting "holocaust denial" and "antiracist" speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream jewish organisations.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let's see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for "holocaust denial" laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don't like.

    During the Cold War Jews were fond of quoting Voltaire in defense of free speech for Communists. They have always been defenders of sexy children’s books, porn and blasphemous art. Apart from that they are the chief force driving the disappearance of free speech in Europe and, as far as possible, here. They also are big fans of pan-surveillance, nanny-government, thought-reform (diversity training etc.) blacklisting, ostracism, draconian punishments for thought-crimes but mild punishments for ordinary murder.
    If you stop to think about it, all these characteristics leverage their strengths and compensate for their weaknesses. They are long on brains and wealth and short on numbers, and they are a religious minority. Their brains and wealth allow them to buy access and apply power at the top. As a former Jewish professor of mine put it, “A man you can buy is a man you can trust. The people you have to fear are the people you can’t buy.”

    Tucker Carlson: The NSA shouldn’t read everyone’s mail.
    Charles Krauthammer: Well, you’re a libertarian.
    Tucker Carlson: I’m an American.

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    Did your professor tell you the big trick of how to get the bought to stay bought? You provoke the thought however that, in one rather superficial sense you can trust the person you can buy... because you know something valuable about him and his motivations whereas with the apparently unbuyable person and your cynical attitude you are still on the hunt for his eeak point.

    I recall being in on a politicians' conversation where one said "I think he really might sppoint me to X as he [the leader] has hinted. After all he owes me a couple of favours including saving his political neck way back". "Yep" says his realistic friend, "but with Y [ the leader]gratitude is a matter of 'what have you done for me today?' ".
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  140. @Anonymous

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.
     
    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don't make up for almost being wiped out like that.

    The bullshit never ends, does it? The world is full of self proclaimed
    holohoax survivors. Many of whom seem to have lived into their 80′s and 90′s . It seems to have been quite a keep fit scheme.

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  141. Karl says:
    @anony-mouse
    Unlike most real Jews, 'Marcus Alethia' can't spell (Ignatiev) and considers Tim Wise an example of American Jewry. (Wise is one quarter Jewish, all on his father's side, is anti-Zionist, and is married to a Gentile). He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return, but wouldn't go there.

    'Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC '. Evidently he also believes that Morris Dees is Jewish too.

    The word 'aletheia' by the way was mostly used in modern times by Heidegger, another giveaway that 'Alethia' isn't Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

    4 anony-mouse > He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return

    not really true. The determination is made by the Ministry of Interior bureaucrats, who ==did== let in the spouses and children of the Russian octoroons (or is it octokikes?). Some were only granted Permanent Residence, but all of those who applied for citizenship (lots of Russians never do) eventually got it.

    Just like everyplace else in the world, having an experienced immigration lawyer on your side often gets you what you want, if you are not a flagrant “bad apple”. There’s about half a dozen attornyies in Tel Aviv who only do immigration cases.

    Ask the Filipinos in South Tel Aviv. ‘ Plenty of them are out of status, but none (that I’ve heard of) of them has been deported in 6-7 years. And its now official that originally-got-admitted-legally mothers of kids in a Hebrew-speaking school, will not get deported

    The got-admitted-legally is what diferentiates the Filipinas from the Africans. The africans got here by jumping the fence, as it were

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  142. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    There is a point in progressing of the events when mob cannot be controlled, and we should be careful that it does not happen in US.
    Concerning Germany we do not know If Hitler lead the mob or if he only was responding to mob.
    He is dead now, and so we cannot ask him, Better be careful than sorry

    1. Your entire comment is predicated upon jewish interests, and jewish interests only. I guess you feel the tribe has enough power now that you can dispense with the pretense of caring about others?

    2. “Better careful than sorry.” Who should take care? Jews killed 20,000,000 gentiles during their first foray into using the Talmud as a governing strategy. So when Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin enthusiastically discuss getting rid of Whites in public my ears prick up. Perhaps jews don’t think we notice they are always front and center for gun grab efforts – even dispensing with the oft used “goy spokesmodel” tactic to avoid fingerprints. That’s how important it is. What exactly do jews have planned that makes them want us defenseless so dearly? Oh wait, I already covered that. Attempt Soviet Union 2.0 at your peril special tribe.

    3. You didn’t comment on White Genocide. So you’re somewhere on the spectrum of “don’t care” to “enthusiastic”?

    But yes….the poor jews. If we selfish gentiles would learn to always put jewish interests ahead of our own, jews and gentiles would get along swimmingly. It’s that simple in jew’s minds. Shoe on the other foot ain’t so popular with y’all.

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    I do admit I was quite foggy. So my comment I was directed towards Democrats.
    As I am watching Breitbart Most of the rednecks are Pissed of By Democrats because they are blocking the funds for the wall. And most of the rednecks do not want amnesty for DAKA.
    This is the sticking point that can change into spark.
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  143. @bike-anarchist
    Mossad at best just disinfo-ed the U$A intelligence establishment about what was about to happen. But, whoever "masterminded" 9/11 it is still an inside job, and I am convinced that U$A and Israel were BOTH involved... follow the money!

    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don’t tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.) As for who disinformed who, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Giuliani knew exactly what they were doing. it is enough to look at who, in the “documentary” said “there was a plane” to understand who was actually pulling it off, and who was standing by to do their share. Guiliani laughed when he ran. Great, profitable, tax-free fun for him. And for everybody. Except the suckers.

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  144. @Art
    I am pro-white imperfect Christian Western culture - not pro-white tribal skin.

    The good part of white – is its cooperative optimistic Christian culture – not it racist biological tribal identity.

    Being individually cooperative, hopeful, and truth seeking, is the reason for the white Wests success.

    Isn’t Miller being politically pro-white tribal skin. This is NOT what we need. That brings war - not peace. Idealistic Christian white wants peace.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. How is Miller on the ME Israeli Jew wars – hmm?

    p.s. Would he be for Israel or America? He cannot be loyal to both.

    Good sentiments. Trump like Obama before him is somehow being subverted from peace candidate to just another errand boy. I don’t know what Miller’s views are on the middle east but I share your hunch. What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

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    Trump knows what he is doing. All wars on Arabs were called out by Presidents.
    According to the constitution it is congress that should be called out the war.
    I thing that Zionist Globalists cannot put a pressure on Trump, because he will relegate the decision on Congress. The Congress is sheepish and it does not want to responsible for the war.
    , @Art
    What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    jack daniels,

    Good observation – that is a sign of cleverness – not wisdom. Red meat partisan one liners are always suspect.

    Miller could be a whole lot of “pull the wool over their eyes.”

    Think Peace --- Art
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  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @plonialmoni
    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don't tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.)

    Spell out the names and procedures which show, according to you, that tje award giving has been for 80 years or more largely dominated by Jews. You can’t. Anyway there are plenty of other figures correlating high IQ Jews with intellectusl achievement tight up to the highest judicial appointments. And you are not going to support the “flat distribution” nonsense are you?

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    This is a very interesting discussion. The link between significant scientific achievement, ethnicity, and IQ.

    I do not doubt that Jews will be disproportionately represented at the higher end of the Bell Curve and that this association will correlate with significant scientific achievement.

    But there is another factor that may be at play in the winning of Nobel prizes that is seldom discussed. Just as Ron Unz has shown favoritism towards Jews at admission to the Ivy League, significant scientific achievement in the modern age often requires large well funded labs. I suspect, but have no proof, that there is likely to be favoritism and nepotism at work in grant funding in the United States that may favor Jewish scientists. This might play a role in the disproportionate amount of Jewish scientists who win nobel prizes.

    But that would be another study for another day. Perhaps Ron Unz or Steve Sailer could look into the grant process in the US and explore whether Jewish scientists are more likely to be funded than the non-Jewish scientists?? And if so, what is the reason for the disparity??
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  146. @Anon
    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try "I wouldn't bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She's so anti-English. I think it's got something to do with the loss of her family's gold mine in South Africa**".

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is "anti-Semitic" not a perfectly good generalisation about others' generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    Your comments are consistently anti-gentile, and frankly your reflexive racism is disgusting. It’s attitudes like this that led the highly-jewish Bolsheviks to murder 20 million gentiles. The Weather Underground (6 of 7 leaders jewish) planned to build death camps in the SW US where they estimated they would execute another 20,000,000 White goyim.

    Never again! Never again will jews be allowed to murder with such bloodlust. I am planning on becoming the goy Simon Wiesenthal to hunt down these jewish monsters. They will be extradited to Poland for speedy trials and executions. Can you spare some shekels?

    PS – God spoke to me. He said jews misunderstood. It’s Whites that are Chosen, not jews. Please spread the word.

    Shalom.

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    Are you a troll fully aware of how bizarre such a comment is. If so do you have a purpose in your commenting beyond making mischief. I wonder by the way which of the Anons, anons, anonymouses etc you thimk I am. You don't seem to have picked that I am descended entirely from residents of the British Isles going back over 900 years.
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  147. Miro23 says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump’s “America First” and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was – used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).

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    I did Analise it thoroughly. I came to conclusion that it could not happened without Bush2 approval.
    That was the reason why he was reading the Goat story.
    , @Anonymous
    Ah there's life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    As "neo-liberalism" "economic rationalism" or whatever you want to call the continued opening up of markets over the last 70 years had nothing to do with Jews or much to do with banks in most countries you might like to consider it in the light of e.g. many millions of people around the world getting an economic leg up which is what a good Christian would want as long as it didn't require poverty and starvation for others. The average American hasn't done well out of the "neo-liberal" opening to the world because of (a) the 1965 Immigration legislation (b) illegal immigration (c) waste in health and pharmaceuticals (d) waste on arms and war (e) an inadequate education system for most (f) subsidies to unproductive minorities (g) union agreements such as those in the motor industry which just about destroyed their employers when facing foreign competition.....not much left for exploitative capitalists to do....

    , @L.K
    miro23

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason.
     
    I do doubt. After all, many decades have gone by and 99.9% of zamericans probably don't know about the USS Liberty...

    Organized Jewry obviously dreads the day a substantial % of the zamerican populace found out that not only the official 9-11 account is false, but that the Zionists were the ones who did it.

    US Marine Corps veteran, Vietnam veteran, graduate of the US Army War College & a Director of Studies at the US Army War College for over 5 years, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, says that after studying the facts surrounding 9/11 he is 100% certain that ISRAEL DID IT.

    @1:14 more or less, Dr.Sabrosky says that if the American people find out about it, Zionism and Israel are finished.”it’ll be a brutal war, and they are gone”.
    .
    Listen to what he says:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jwieqSNpnM

    So, very high stakes for these folks, and they'll use all their power - which they have a lot of - so the Zamerican people never find out the truth.
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  148. Wally says:
    @Anonymous
    Well let's forget the 6 million while we find out what you do believe and why. The German SS led and Wehrmacht supported Einsatzgruppen undoubtedly existed and operated vigorously from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. They started rounding up and killing Communist officials and Jews and shooting them from the start did they not? Was Babi Yar for example just a rogue exception to the carrying out of Nazi policy under Himmler? So what's your big point? That American Jews and Israel woke up to the fact some time in the 50s or 60s that they could get a lot of mileage out of the Holocaust for causes they supported? Well, duh! And I'll concede that the 6 million (with absolutely nothing to do with all those NYT references you keep on copying and pasting**) is a bit of a totemic figure because I can recall a Jewish lawyer I was travelling with as long ago as the 70s pulling me up when I said that I had read something which suggested the figure was more like 4 million. So what?

    **You seem to have latched on to what probably kept on turning up as a convenient figure in the newspapers' cutting books and archives. It would have been perhaps the approximate number of European Jews circa 1860, the number in Poland by 1913 or 1930 or whatever. Coincidence plus convenience but I can't even imagine what magical use of it you have in mind. BTW I read somewhere that Martin Gilbert (the Jewish biographer of Churchill) said 78 per cent of Jews under Nazi control had been killed. And he accepted the 6 million I think. That leaves 1.7 million "survivors" out of 7.7 million. Presumably that 7.7 million doesn't include all Soviet Jews or French Jews in the Vichy south. How do you do the figures?

    I know much more than you, that’s certainly obvious. Science trumps Zionism.
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight the non-uniformed terrorists / ‘partisans’ who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.
    Bab Yar & the alleged 34,000 supposedly shot there is pure propaganda. There are no excavations & human remains to be seen. Statements about it are utterly impossible & contradictory,

    The fake ‘holocaust’ ’6M has a lot to do with the NYT articles from 1869. All the ’6M claims’ are bogus & easily shown s such. They demonstrate that Jew have been faking the cabbalistic number from, well 1869.
    Heretofore their latest Big Lie has stuck. Zionist control of ‘the media’ & ‘academia’ enables such fraud. The Allied military also played along and actually staged events like the absurd ‘shrunken heads, lampshades from humans, soap made from Jews’, etc, etc. since it deflected from the enormous mass Allied WWII war crimes.
    Martin Gilbert? Seriously? He’s been shredded even by those in the mainstream.
    All you have are such things ‘ I heard this, I heard that’. What you heard is scientifically impossible nonsense You’re merely referencing a form of religion, that is very profitable & beneficial to Jews, aka: a scam.
    There simply was no ’6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers’ and there is no proof for them’. You certainly don’t have it.
    All of what you speak has been demolished repeatedly by Revisionist scholars.
    If you really think you know what you’re talking about then debate us, man up. All Revisionists are former believers. http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Only liars demand censorship.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

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  149. Sam J. says:
    @Loveofknowledge
    Good article. I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies. I think of it sort of like the treaties we have with the Native Americans. It should lay out rights and responsibilities on both sides.

    I got this idea from the book The Jews by Hillaire Belloc which I highly recommend. It was written in 1922 and predicted a major backlash against Jews that had been building for some time all throughout Europe. The cause was initially Jewish dominance of finance and other Jewish power, and was coming to a head because of Bolshevism.

    He talks about how to break this pattern that keeps recurring:
    * Europeans pretend that Jews are just like any other citizens of their countries - Germans, French, etc.
    * Jews become increasingly powerful in various fields - finance, government, the press, etc. and in many cases are clearly working against the interests of their fellow citizens.
    * Taboos against talking about Jews and Jewish influence cause the pressure to build for awhile.
    * Finally at some point, Europeans have had enough and there is a backlash against Jews, which may become violent.
    * Europeans feel guilty about the backlash and go back to leaving the Jews alone and pretending they don't exist.
    * Jews start gaining power again and the cycle repeats.

    He points out that Jews aren't going anywhere - even when Spain expelled them for 300 years they still made their way back in. They also aren't assimilating - it's been 2000 years, they would have by now if they were going to. They are a distinct "nation" and their loyalty and identity is to other Jews - and that's ok, as long as it's recognized as such.

    He suggests that this recognition could include benefits for Jews and not just limitations - such as Jews potentially being exempt from conscription for military service.

    The book is written as a starting point for thinking about this, not necessarily with all the details of how the recognition would work. My impression reading the book was that much of it still resonates today and that it's too bad almost 100 years have gone by without anyone really picking up where he left off.

    One of the things that bothers me a lot about the conventional wisdom is the way white people are attacked and condemned for feeling a sense of identity and solidarity with other white people. That seems perfectly natural and no non-white or non-Western racial or religious group is condemned for that. So it hardly seems fair to condemn Jews for having a group identity with other Jews.

    The issue is how to properly manage the inevitable conflicts of interest so things don't get out of hand. Maybe if the Jews had recognition of their place as a permanent minority nation within the West, then they wouldn't be trying to flood the West with foreigners - on the contrary, as this article suggests, they would want to preserve their Western home.

    And maybe recognition of the Jews as having a place, but with appropriate limitations on their power, would avoid the white majority getting fed up with Jewish dominance and there being a nasty backlash. Also, honesty about Jewish identity and interests would avoid white people getting exasperated with knowing what really motivates the Bill Kristol and Bret Stephens types but not being allowed to acknowledge it.

    “…I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies…”

    This is a foolish idea. I may not know what’s good for the Jews but I know what’s good for us and that’s to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go by any means possible. We need them out of our countries and with no control over us at all. They have their own country they can go live there. We don’t need one Jew. We have no need of them in any capacity.

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    Thank you Uncle Adolf: I have applauded every time you've said it since 1918 and it can't be repeated too often.
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  150. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels
    During the Cold War Jews were fond of quoting Voltaire in defense of free speech for Communists. They have always been defenders of sexy children's books, porn and blasphemous art. Apart from that they are the chief force driving the disappearance of free speech in Europe and, as far as possible, here. They also are big fans of pan-surveillance, nanny-government, thought-reform (diversity training etc.) blacklisting, ostracism, draconian punishments for thought-crimes but mild punishments for ordinary murder.
    If you stop to think about it, all these characteristics leverage their strengths and compensate for their weaknesses. They are long on brains and wealth and short on numbers, and they are a religious minority. Their brains and wealth allow them to buy access and apply power at the top. As a former Jewish professor of mine put it, "A man you can buy is a man you can trust. The people you have to fear are the people you can't buy."

    Tucker Carlson: The NSA shouldn't read everyone's mail.
    Charles Krauthammer: Well, you're a libertarian.
    Tucker Carlson: I'm an American.

    Did your professor tell you the big trick of how to get the bought to stay bought? You provoke the thought however that, in one rather superficial sense you can trust the person you can buy… because you know something valuable about him and his motivations whereas with the apparently unbuyable person and your cynical attitude you are still on the hunt for his eeak point.

    I recall being in on a politicians’ conversation where one said “I think he really might sppoint me to X as he [the leader] has hinted. After all he owes me a couple of favours including saving his political neck way back”. “Yep” says his realistic friend, “but with Y [ the leader]gratitude is a matter of ‘what have you done for me today?’ “.

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  151. Sam J. says:
    @jilles dykstra
    https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1654038/merkel-duitsland-schuldig-aan-holocaust
    Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?

    “Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?”

    Wally is more credible than Merkel. He has…facts.

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    And so few of them surely some must be right. (He's even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsarzgruppen in 1941).
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  152. @Rabbi High Comma
    1. Your entire comment is predicated upon jewish interests, and jewish interests only. I guess you feel the tribe has enough power now that you can dispense with the pretense of caring about others?

    2. "Better careful than sorry." Who should take care? Jews killed 20,000,000 gentiles during their first foray into using the Talmud as a governing strategy. So when Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin enthusiastically discuss getting rid of Whites in public my ears prick up. Perhaps jews don't think we notice they are always front and center for gun grab efforts - even dispensing with the oft used "goy spokesmodel" tactic to avoid fingerprints. That's how important it is. What exactly do jews have planned that makes them want us defenseless so dearly? Oh wait, I already covered that. Attempt Soviet Union 2.0 at your peril special tribe.

    3. You didn't comment on White Genocide. So you're somewhere on the spectrum of "don't care" to "enthusiastic"?

    But yes....the poor jews. If we selfish gentiles would learn to always put jewish interests ahead of our own, jews and gentiles would get along swimmingly. It's that simple in jew's minds. Shoe on the other foot ain't so popular with y'all.

    I do admit I was quite foggy. So my comment I was directed towards Democrats.
    As I am watching Breitbart Most of the rednecks are Pissed of By Democrats because they are blocking the funds for the wall. And most of the rednecks do not want amnesty for DAKA.
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    Democrats?

    Angelo Codevilla's seminal 2010 essay "America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution" authoritatively invalidated the false RvD dichotomy nearly a decade ago. The true struggle is the Cloud People vs. the Dirt People. The Cloud People (and I will spare you the requisite triple parenthesis) have promised the low status/low agency brown people, sexual freaks, and feminists status if they will help them genocide the White goyim, while opening the borders to as many uneducated brown 3rd world village peasants as they can get away with. Period.

    We hold no allusions about the simmering race war. There's no need to patronize us. You may feel more comfortable speaking in euphemism, but your emotional needs are irrelevant to the discussion.

    Please know this. Jews hold Whites collectively responsible for every perceived slight/harm - real or imagined - ever to befall a jew due to Whites. That standard may be adopted by us in turn, and it would be valid to hold jews to their own standard.
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  153. Sam J. says:
    @neutral

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence.
     
    The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist. Even jews like Stephan Miller are not be trusted, his main concern is the long run safety of Israel, he believes that a non white America and Europe is bad for Israel, while the majority of jews think it is good for Israel and the jews in general. I tend to agree with the leftist views on this one, a non white world would be better for the jews because it would easier (mostly) to sedate multiracial states with pop culture and money worship than it is with homogeneous white states.

    “…The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist…”

    Agreed. Our focus should not be on what we have to do to get along with the Jews. It should not be whatever “task” the Jews think we should do to order our society. We don’t need any help, hints or pointers on how to order our society from the Jews. The Jews have no right to lecture anyone on the planet about morality and any advice from them on morality is likely to be wrong. Our focus should be on what we have to do to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go not matter what.

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    "The Jews". The way you both use the term is the stuff of fantasy. These are Jewish flavoured spirits concocted in your heads.
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  154. Sam J. says:
    @liz
    Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it. And make cautious alliances with the tribe. It is the looney left that denounces tribalism among us, but Jews and Muslims are excepted. Tribalism is what works. It's worked for hundreds of thousands of years. Europe of tribes worked. Europe of tribes became a travelers' gem. Europe of multikulti is falling apart.

    “…Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it…”

    Exactly. We should become more tribal and throw the Jew out. Get rid of them

    “… And make cautious alliances with the tribe…”

    This is where you get it wrong. For thousands of years we’ve tried to do this and they’ve stabbed us in the back every time. When will people learn? It’s best to get rid of them and have nothing to do with them. This has been shown with 100% accuracy to be effective in increasing the wealth, health and happiness of any population that chooses it.

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  155. @jack daniels
    Good sentiments. Trump like Obama before him is somehow being subverted from peace candidate to just another errand boy. I don't know what Miller's views are on the middle east but I share your hunch. What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    Trump knows what he is doing. All wars on Arabs were called out by Presidents.
    According to the constitution it is congress that should be called out the war.
    I thing that Zionist Globalists cannot put a pressure on Trump, because he will relegate the decision on Congress. The Congress is sheepish and it does not want to responsible for the war.

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  156. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    The problem with that is that Jews and most other immigrants and minorities are not Americans, and never can be Americans, even If they wanted to be, which few do.

    Why not just admit that America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to? When you do that, it's easy to see what America is, who are the actual Americans, and what has been the effect of immigration. It's also easier to see solutions.

    Yes. OilcanFloyd states the truth.

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  157. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    The U.S. and Israel do not mirror each other. The "genocide" of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans, and it took centuries to get the ball rolling. Zionists immediately started ethnically cleansing and are still working at it, since it's built in to their system. It's what they are about.

    No current or past immigrants to America came to live like Native Indians, no matter how much they try to guilt or shame Whites for the crimes that their White ancestors supposedly committed. People are coming to America to take advantage of what Whites built, and it's always been that way. By your logic, immigrants are receiving stolen property, at best.

    “…The “genocide” of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans…”

    The genocide of the American Indian was from disease. Generally small pox, measles and others. 95% of the population died from this. Jewish massacres were deliberate.

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  158. @Miro23

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.
     
    I don't doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump's "America First" and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was - used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).

    I did Analise it thoroughly. I came to conclusion that it could not happened without Bush2 approval.
    That was the reason why he was reading the Goat story.

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  159. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rabbi High Comma
    Your comments are consistently anti-gentile, and frankly your reflexive racism is disgusting. It's attitudes like this that led the highly-jewish Bolsheviks to murder 20 million gentiles. The Weather Underground (6 of 7 leaders jewish) planned to build death camps in the SW US where they estimated they would execute another 20,000,000 White goyim.

    Never again! Never again will jews be allowed to murder with such bloodlust. I am planning on becoming the goy Simon Wiesenthal to hunt down these jewish monsters. They will be extradited to Poland for speedy trials and executions. Can you spare some shekels?

    PS - God spoke to me. He said jews misunderstood. It's Whites that are Chosen, not jews. Please spread the word.

    Shalom.

    Are you a troll fully aware of how bizarre such a comment is. If so do you have a purpose in your commenting beyond making mischief. I wonder by the way which of the Anons, anons, anonymouses etc you thimk I am. You don’t seem to have picked that I am descended entirely from residents of the British Isles going back over 900 years.

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  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.
    "...The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist..."

    Agreed. Our focus should not be on what we have to do to get along with the Jews. It should not be whatever "task" the Jews think we should do to order our society. We don't need any help, hints or pointers on how to order our society from the Jews. The Jews have no right to lecture anyone on the planet about morality and any advice from them on morality is likely to be wrong. Our focus should be on what we have to do to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go not matter what.

    “The Jews”. The way you both use the term is the stuff of fantasy. These are Jewish flavoured spirits concocted in your heads.

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    "...These are Jewish flavoured spirits..."

    Are these the same as the Jewish spirits that brought down building 7 on 9-11? As we all know, or should, building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. Meaning since gravity is the same that the build fell as if it were only supported by air. This is of course nonsense so something took all support from the building as it fell.
    , @Jo
    “Many persons pass for normal, and indeed for highly valuable members of society, who are incurably mad.” Herman Hesse

    “The Jews are an incurably bad people, a people always seeking its own benefits and wanting to enslave the world, a people which in spite of all its efforts to assimilate, still remains strange and hostile to the non- Jews. The Jew is the torchbearer of capitalism, exploitation, usury, and suppression. At the same time, he is also the yeast of history, upsetting and destroying all that is stable, the troublemaker incarnate. In short, the Jewish people is the curse of humanity.”
    Nahman Syrkin 1898, In: The Zionist Idea, pp 337

    “Once he finds out who he is, what can Console him?” Calderon
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  161. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.
    "Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?"

    Wally is more credible than Merkel. He has...facts.

    And so few of them surely some must be right. (He’s even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsarzgruppen in 1941).

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    "And so few of them surely some must be right. (He’s even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsatzgruppen in 1941)."

    I suggest you pay attention and stop showing your ignorance. Frankly, you're in over your head.
    As is previously stated:
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight non-uniformed terrorists / ‘partisans’ who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.

    The corrupt 'Holocau$t Industry' now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
    Is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    more here:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=einsatzgruppen
    Also search & debate here, IF you think you really know what you are talking about: https://forum.codoh.com
    Revisionists, all former Believers, are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

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  162. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.
    "...I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies..."

    This is a foolish idea. I may not know what's good for the Jews but I know what's good for us and that's to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go by any means possible. We need them out of our countries and with no control over us at all. They have their own country they can go live there. We don't need one Jew. We have no need of them in any capacity.

    Thank you Uncle Adolf: I have applauded every time you’ve said it since 1918 and it can’t be repeated too often.

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    "...it can’t be repeated too often..."

    We do agree on something.
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  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.
     
    I don't doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump's "America First" and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was - used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    As “neo-liberalism” “economic rationalism” or whatever you want to call the continued opening up of markets over the last 70 years had nothing to do with Jews or much to do with banks in most countries you might like to consider it in the light of e.g. many millions of people around the world getting an economic leg up which is what a good Christian would want as long as it didn’t require poverty and starvation for others. The average American hasn’t done well out of the “neo-liberal” opening to the world because of (a) the 1965 Immigration legislation (b) illegal immigration (c) waste in health and pharmaceuticals (d) waste on arms and war (e) an inadequate education system for most (f) subsidies to unproductive minorities (g) union agreements such as those in the motor industry which just about destroyed their employers when facing foreign competition…..not much left for exploitative capitalists to do….

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    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!
     
    The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn't collapse due to fire. By now the evidence is overwhelming, but the government still insists that it did fall due to fire. Why are they lying?

    There's also a great deal of evidence that the other two towers didn't collapse due to fire either , but the government insists that they did. So again, why are they lying?

    The detailed 9/11 story arrived in the media perfectly formed and at full volume almost as the planes hit. How was that possible? Where were the doubts, investigations, alternative theories etc. The propaganda was ready to go on the signal.

    And the government lied about events down in Florida prior to 9/11. Supposedly the Arab pilots crept into the Florida flight schools unseen and fooled everybody, when in fact, it was quite the reverse. They were on CIA run airfields and everyone down there knew they were special and were being shepherded through a process. Normal legal/documentary hurdles didn't apply and the police were not allowed to touch them.

    OK, 9/11 was a big lie. It was the organized murder of 3000 Americans aimed to trigger the War on Terror but still no Coup.

    The doubts come from other events in Florida.


    On the morning of 9/11 a van full of supposed Arab newsmen arrived at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort claiming to have an appointment for a poolside interview with George Bush (who was staying there), but was out jogging at the time (and security blocked them). They left and disappeared.

    Later that day, after the towers were hit, Bush was rushed onto Airforce One and was greatly frustrated to find that he was completely out of contact with Washington for hours, supposedly through a combination of security/technical problems. It should have been Bush who took charge of events, but in fact he was excluded, while the US for an afternoon became an Emergency Dictatorship under Cheney along with the Neo-cons. If the MSM, and the CIA knew that 9/11 was about to start then so did they, and they also knew that the towers were coming down and were positioned for it.

    Daniel Hopsicker's opinion after looking at everything that happened in Florida, is that the fake "Arab" newsmen were in fact linked to 9/11 (too much of a coincidence) and the visit was a failed assassination attempt. If Bush had been assassinated by "Arab terrorists" on the morning of 9/11, that would have left Cheney and the Neo-cons with absolute power in US under an Emergency (COG Continuity of Government) regime.

    Source: Daniel Hopsicker's, "Welcome to Terrorland" https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terrorland-Mohamed-Cover-up-Florida/dp/0975290673/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518391092&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=welme+to+terrorland
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  164. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    It was that Irishman, Larry Silverstein who said re WTC 7, "we had to make the decision to pull it".

    As you didn’t hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy’s black humour and him or his wife saying “OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode”. Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words…. and maybe it meant “pull out” when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building – the “it” being the efforts to suppress the fire.

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    Hey genius! He's on the record saying it. You can hear it for yourself, from his fetid mouth to your wax clogged ears and dense bone to your zygote "brain". Try a simple search, or better still, ask a child to do it for you. You may want to listen to it a few times though as he uses really big words like WE HAD TO PULL IT.

    Toodle pip, Tosser.
    , @Robjil
    Read Solving 911 by Chris Bollyn. He gives shows lots of evidence of the Israeli deep state's part in 911. Another clue, Wesley Clark said he saw a memo to destroy seven middle east countries for the 911 false flag. Why seven? Perhaps since it is the same number of nations that Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy to make a greater Israel in Deut. 7:1 in OT. This is very similar to Israel's Odin Yinon plan for the destruction of nations near Israel. Notice the mantra"seven" appear again with the seven nations ban for immigration. There was lots of protests against the ban. Though, no protests promoted against wars on these seven nations.
    , @Sam J.
    It actually doesn't matter what he said as building 7 fell with NO support. None at all except air. It fell as if it had no cement, no beams, no columns, no Sheetrock, no nothing but air holding it up.
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  165. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I do admit I was quite foggy. So my comment I was directed towards Democrats.
    As I am watching Breitbart Most of the rednecks are Pissed of By Democrats because they are blocking the funds for the wall. And most of the rednecks do not want amnesty for DAKA.
    This is the sticking point that can change into spark.

    Democrats?

    Angelo Codevilla’s seminal 2010 essay “America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution” authoritatively invalidated the false RvD dichotomy nearly a decade ago. The true struggle is the Cloud People vs. the Dirt People. The Cloud People (and I will spare you the requisite triple parenthesis) have promised the low status/low agency brown people, sexual freaks, and feminists status if they will help them genocide the White goyim, while opening the borders to as many uneducated brown 3rd world village peasants as they can get away with. Period.

    We hold no allusions about the simmering race war. There’s no need to patronize us. You may feel more comfortable speaking in euphemism, but your emotional needs are irrelevant to the discussion.

    Please know this. Jews hold Whites collectively responsible for every perceived slight/harm – real or imagined – ever to befall a jew due to Whites. That standard may be adopted by us in turn, and it would be valid to hold jews to their own standard.

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    Please do not go there! It is not only unfair it is also dangerous!

    Let me set an example.
    If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats.
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  166. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?
     
    Its in wiki...which is not reliable
    But also quoted in several books, first one to use it in was The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and it seems to have been repeated by others after that.
    BUT....none of the people or books using that quote give a citation or source of how they came by it....so without a source as to how they got what Hitler said, not even a 'as told to me by' its hard to say if its accurate or not.

    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    As it would not necessarily be in Speer’s interests to acknowledge that he worked for the man who could order that it would have made sense to ask Speer and no doubt there are records of his being asked about it. Did he deny it? [No,it seems. Its in his memoirs]. I’ve just Googled and of course it wasn’t originally an “order” to Speer. The following suggests there would have been lots of copies of Hitler’s “Nero Decree” floating around even if little action resulting from it and it seems plausible that Speer was put in charge of the destruction ad a way of Hitler backimg fown.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650213/This-week-in-history-Hitler-orders-the-destruction-of-Germany.html

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    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?
     
    Yes I am sure. Did extensive goggling of quote and where it did come up was mostly in books that you can read on gogglebooks so I did....in none of the books where it appeared were any citations or any footnote for the quote given.
    None of the other sites where the quote appeared gave citations either.
    Whether Hitler said it or not no one seems able to attribute it to any source.

    If it came from Speers autobio none of them are citing his book as the source.

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  167. Art says:
    @AaronB
    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn't you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn't even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you'd become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn't even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn't appear "wrong" - you'd behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four - literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn't strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can't build technology. But it's worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don't realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.

    There is one very important aspect to this winning arguments with lies and untruths – hate. Residual hate for the coercive liar.

    The last sentence of Hitler’s Mein Kampf quote, I did not publish. It is “Gradually I began to hate them.”

    Needless to say, the cultural of Jews who coercively argued with Hitler paid a price down the line.

    When an argument is not truthfully and honorably settled – it is not settled – period. There are negative residual effects.

    Think Peace — Art

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  168. @Anonymous
    As you didn't hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy's black humour and him or his wife saying "OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode". Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words.... and maybe it meant "pull out" when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building - the "it" being the efforts to suppress the fire.

    Hey genius! He’s on the record saying it. You can hear it for yourself, from his fetid mouth to your wax clogged ears and dense bone to your zygote “brain”. Try a simple search, or better still, ask a child to do it for you. You may want to listen to it a few times though as he uses really big words like WE HAD TO PULL IT.

    Toodle pip, Tosser.

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    Found it easily of course. But so what? My point remains untouched. It apparently didn't inspire anyone to ask clarifying questions which is odd if it was sinister. What is he saying happened? Even if it goes beyond saying "we stopped trying to save it" again? sp what. You don't get close to proving that the destruction of WTC 7 was part of any intelligible 9/11 plot. There is no reason to believe its most probable explanation was other than as an accidental add on to the big plan's results.
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  169. @renfro
    Well Hitler gave a good description of conversing with Jews

    But here's the real skinny on it:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-shasha/what-is-pilpul-and-why-on_b_507522.html

    What Is Pilpul , And Why On Earth Should I Care About It?

    By David Shasha
    For those who have any concern with the Middle East conflict or with Judaism, what you know — or do not know — about pilpul is something upon which your well-being could depend. Ignorance of pilpul is a very dangerous thing, something that would allow your interlocutor to have the upper hand in ways that you could not begin to even imagine.

    What is thought to be the Jewish “genius” is often a mark of how pilpul is deployed. The rhetorical tricks of pilpul make true rational discussion impossible; any “discussion” is about trying to “prove” a point that has already been established. There is little use trying to argue in this context, because any points being made will be twisted and turned to validate the already-fixed position.
    Pilpul is the rhetorical means to mark as “true” that which cannot ever be disputed by rational means.

    What this means for contemporary Jewish discourse is critical: Even though many contemporary Jews are not observant, pilpul continues to be deployed. Pilpul occurs any time the speaker is committed to “prove” his point regardless of the evidence in front of him. The casuistic aspect of this hair-splitting leads to a labyrinthine form of argument where the speaker blows enough rhetorical smoke to make his interlocutor submit. Reason is not an issue when pilpul takes over: what counts is the establishment of a fixed, immutable point that can never truly be disputed

    As if this was not enough, the Tosafists instituted one more pilpul principle into Talmudic discourse. This was called the Lav Davqa method. In English we might call it the “Not Quite” way of reading a text. When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!

    The contentiousness of the Middle East conflict is intimately informed by pilpul. Whether it is Alan Dershowitz or Noam Chomsky, both of them Ashkenazim who had traditional Jewish educations, the terms of the debate are consistently framed by pilpul. What is most unfortunate about pilpul — and this is something that will be familiar to anyone who has followed the controversies involving Israel and Palestine — is that, since the rational has been removed from the process, all that is left is yelling, irrational emotionalism, and, ultimately, the threat of violence.

    As I have said there really is no Jewish genius.....people sometimes mistake their arguments and writing for intelligence because they don't understand what's being said or written and think they arent bright enough to understand it..... the truth is they don't understand it because its just glibberish babble and verbosity....iow pilpul.

    Thank you again, renfro, for excellent information.

    Many times I have ruminated extensively on attempting to ‘model’ a particular trend; so it is with the case of these argumentation techniques taught in the Talmud.
    It is very gratifying to find, contrary to the torrent of social prescriptions against even the consideration, that ‘it is so!‘, and my own well-cycled considerations were very accurate.

    Have a better one.

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    Welcome D

    If you want a good example of this:

    ""When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!''

    Then read some David Brooks columns in the NYT......he twist himself into a pretzel to disguise what he is actually saying.
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  170. Robjil says:
    @Anonymous
    As you didn't hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy's black humour and him or his wife saying "OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode". Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words.... and maybe it meant "pull out" when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building - the "it" being the efforts to suppress the fire.

    Read Solving 911 by Chris Bollyn. He gives shows lots of evidence of the Israeli deep state’s part in 911. Another clue, Wesley Clark said he saw a memo to destroy seven middle east countries for the 911 false flag. Why seven? Perhaps since it is the same number of nations that Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy to make a greater Israel in Deut. 7:1 in OT. This is very similar to Israel’s Odin Yinon plan for the destruction of nations near Israel. Notice the mantra”seven” appear again with the seven nations ban for immigration. There was lots of protests against the ban. Though, no protests promoted against wars on these seven nations.

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    "Solving 911" by Chris Bollyn

    Yes this is very good. To make sure though we don't need to read anything to see building 7 fall as if it were supported only by air. That does it right there. You need no other truth that there was a demo or bombing of some sort on 9-11. Unless you're going to come up with some story that the support of buildings can vanish due to terrorism or some other such nonsense. Not that I doubt the Jews lying ability. It's quite extraordinary but this would be difficult for even them.

    They have tried but were unsuccessful.
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  171. Mulegino1 says:
    @Anonymous
    Well let's forget the 6 million while we find out what you do believe and why. The German SS led and Wehrmacht supported Einsatzgruppen undoubtedly existed and operated vigorously from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. They started rounding up and killing Communist officials and Jews and shooting them from the start did they not? Was Babi Yar for example just a rogue exception to the carrying out of Nazi policy under Himmler? So what's your big point? That American Jews and Israel woke up to the fact some time in the 50s or 60s that they could get a lot of mileage out of the Holocaust for causes they supported? Well, duh! And I'll concede that the 6 million (with absolutely nothing to do with all those NYT references you keep on copying and pasting**) is a bit of a totemic figure because I can recall a Jewish lawyer I was travelling with as long ago as the 70s pulling me up when I said that I had read something which suggested the figure was more like 4 million. So what?

    **You seem to have latched on to what probably kept on turning up as a convenient figure in the newspapers' cutting books and archives. It would have been perhaps the approximate number of European Jews circa 1860, the number in Poland by 1913 or 1930 or whatever. Coincidence plus convenience but I can't even imagine what magical use of it you have in mind. BTW I read somewhere that Martin Gilbert (the Jewish biographer of Churchill) said 78 per cent of Jews under Nazi control had been killed. And he accepted the 6 million I think. That leaves 1.7 million "survivors" out of 7.7 million. Presumably that 7.7 million doesn't include all Soviet Jews or French Jews in the Vichy south. How do you do the figures?

    The “Holocaust” narrative is easy to deconstruct when one descends from vague and nebulous generalities, i.e., the pseudo-religious narrative- to specific historical facts and events which are either empirically verifiable or falsifiable.

    With respect to the alleged crimes of the Einsatzgruppen, a perfect example of this is the alleged massacre at Babi Yar ravine outside of Kiev, where, it is alleged, the Einsatzgruppen murdered upwards of 30,000 Jews, buried them inside the ravine, then subsequently exhumed the mass graves and burned them to ashes.

    While it is a documented fact that there were reprisal executions for the terrorist bombings which killed many members of the German occupation forces in Kiev (which certainly involved some Jews and which were not illegal under the international laws regarding the conduct of war in force at that time) there is not a shred of physical or documentary evidence that the numbers of those executed reached the thousands, let alone tens of thousands:

    There are no traces of mass graves or human “cremains” dating from that period commensurate with many hundreds, let alone thousands of victims.

    Aerial reconnaissance photos taken around the time of the “mass exhumations and cremations” of the bodies of the victims show virtually no major disturbances of the ground in the ravine, and no access roads into and out of the ravine. Given the fact that some 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been required for such a massive outdoor cremation, how would the Germans have pulled this off without easy access to the ravine? Also, where are the huge quantities of wood ash?

    Given the fact that the ravine appears to have been used as a place of execution by the NKVD long before the German invasion, and the complete absence of any physical evidence, it is entirely likely that the Babi Yar legend is a completely free invention of the Soviet propaganda machine.

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    As you refer to what it takes to burn bodies can you expand our edecation by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won't burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?
    , @Anonymous
    This will annoy you.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-12/babi-yar-melbourne-resident-one-of-survivors-nazi-massacre/8893804

    Interesting reference to red hair. That might be from the Khazars? My red facial hair came from the Celts but apparently some Khazars had red hair. (Basically the Khazar contribution to the Ashkenazi gene pool is negligible.... but still :-)
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  172. @Rabbi High Comma
    Democrats?

    Angelo Codevilla's seminal 2010 essay "America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution" authoritatively invalidated the false RvD dichotomy nearly a decade ago. The true struggle is the Cloud People vs. the Dirt People. The Cloud People (and I will spare you the requisite triple parenthesis) have promised the low status/low agency brown people, sexual freaks, and feminists status if they will help them genocide the White goyim, while opening the borders to as many uneducated brown 3rd world village peasants as they can get away with. Period.

    We hold no allusions about the simmering race war. There's no need to patronize us. You may feel more comfortable speaking in euphemism, but your emotional needs are irrelevant to the discussion.

    Please know this. Jews hold Whites collectively responsible for every perceived slight/harm - real or imagined - ever to befall a jew due to Whites. That standard may be adopted by us in turn, and it would be valid to hold jews to their own standard.

    Please do not go there! It is not only unfair it is also dangerous!

    Let me set an example.
    If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats.

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    "...If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats...."

    Uhhh...no you should shoot the guy with the knife.
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  173. @AaronB
    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn't you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn't even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you'd become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn't even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn't appear "wrong" - you'd behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four - literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn't strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can't build technology. But it's worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don't realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.

    hmm

    so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power’

    wow

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    The probably silly assed Jew Rurik (from another location) thinks he's so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie. Actually what he's proved is that I, Sam J., have come up with the only sure fire, 100% guaranteed method of solving all our problems with the Jews. This has been tried before and has NEVER fail to work. Get rid of the Jews. Deport them. Make sure they have no say over your future. This has been proven to raise the spirits of the people, make children happy, increase the prosperity of the country and raise the over all well being of the country.

    The Jews have been thrown out of every single country they've ever been to in any numbers for exactly the same reasons I'm saying we should throw them out now. Why waste more time on these people when it's inevitable that they will be thrown out. Get ahead of the curve. Throw the Jews out now.
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  174. Sam J. says:
    @Anon
    Thank you Uncle Adolf: I have applauded every time you've said it since 1918 and it can't be repeated too often.

    “…it can’t be repeated too often…”

    We do agree on something.

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  175. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous
    "The Jews". The way you both use the term is the stuff of fantasy. These are Jewish flavoured spirits concocted in your heads.

    “…These are Jewish flavoured spirits…”

    Are these the same as the Jewish spirits that brought down building 7 on 9-11? As we all know, or should, building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. Meaning since gravity is the same that the build fell as if it were only supported by air. This is of course nonsense so something took all support from the building as it fell.

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  176. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous
    As you didn't hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy's black humour and him or his wife saying "OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode". Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words.... and maybe it meant "pull out" when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building - the "it" being the efforts to suppress the fire.

    It actually doesn’t matter what he said as building 7 fell with NO support. None at all except air. It fell as if it had no cement, no beams, no columns, no Sheetrock, no nothing but air holding it up.

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  177. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Please do not go there! It is not only unfair it is also dangerous!

    Let me set an example.
    If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats.

    “…If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats….”

    Uhhh…no you should shoot the guy with the knife.

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  178. Having listened to the comment about Jews as nonwhites is peculiar. Peculiar because the Jews that most consume western energy are the Jews of Europe — who are in fact almost entirely – white. in fact, the behavior of the European Jews (white) is to exclude those Jews of a darker hue on the claim that they are not jews based on skin color.

    Many if not most of the jews in Israel harbor the same prejudices, and anxieties as white in Europe and the US. I suspect that if Jews were not white, a holocaust might not have been enough to garner enough support to warrant them a return to Palestine.

    as for the Talmud being a sinister way of argument, it is no more tedious or legalistic than catholic catechisms, vedas-upanishads, etc. Religious beliefs are always accompanied by series of principles and dogmas written by humans to help or instruct followers to obey the rules. In western practice those extend to be expressed in very legalistic terms. Someone schooled in the same is going to develop a means of thing and expression in much the same manner. Buddhism, like hinduism has a long line of scholars or recognized authorities explicating what their beliefs mean in real terms in less legalistic rhetorical form. If anything it is the rhetorical gymnastics from this form that enables jews to excel in law, medication, philosophy, and psychiatry and finance, this all intense focus on details and how to advance them or get around them. People, get irritated with lawyers not because they are jewish, but because anyone schooled in technical fields of linguistics tends to hyper rationalize everything. It is this skill or bane that justifies torture, interventions, police misbehavior
    all manner of human interaction.

    What’s great about the article is that it includes the the influences of Babylonia and Muslim influences. How the author gets to the conclusion about emotionalism is bizarre. He merely jumps to that conclusion based on the Talmudic form of explicating Old Testaments scripture for the purposes of linking the mundane to the supernatural. If anything strict adherence to the style, leads to a very pedantic, technical and tedious series of explanations of how to behave in order to be in good standing with God. One can certainly become emotional — but the authors conclusion doesn’t have much support, if any.

    Christ makes the following contention (one need not believe in Christ to get the point – but he was a jew schooled in the talmud tradition):

    “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.”

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=AKJV

    Thus so entwined in the details as to miss the larger meaning the details are intended to express. pulpil is actually avoided — connecting this life to God’s intent is missed because the weight is vested in the details as opposed to the larger meaning. its the hyperventilating on details which causes empasse and perhaps an emotional response. And it was those details that the Jews brought to the table when discussing how to draw territorial boundaries regarding Palestine, arriving with maps, and real estate lawyers, etc. The UN negotiators and the Palestinians were just unprepared for legal technicalities of a real estate debate.

    Details are important, but its not uncommon to miss the overall point by hyperventilating on details.

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    I was thinking that Budhism is a meditation to separate your soul from your body.
    When you do it you have achieved Nirvana. The trouble with it that how you convince your spectators that your soul did leave your body?
    , @renfro
    I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today

    I came across the below back in 2010. Jewish politicians using earmarks for Jews and Israel.
    This is what Jews do shovel our money to the Jews and Israel.
    And this was at a time when uninsured and underinsured Americans were standing in line at free clinics run by private doctors on their own dime.


    http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny05_ackerman/PR_032609.html

    Congressman Ackerman Announces FY 2010 Project Requests

    (Washington, DC) - In compliance with House rules and the Democratic Majority’s pledge to increase the transparency of the appropriations process, Congressman Ackerman announces the following project requests that he has received for consideration and submission in the FY 2010 appropriations process

    #American Friends of Ashdod Emergency Medical Center (Brooklyn, NY) – Medical Facility in Ashdod, Israel – $10,000,000 – Funding would be used to construct a medical center in Israel’s fifth largest city.

    # American Committee for Shaare Zedek (New York, NY) – Pediatric Nephrology Unit (located in Jerusalem) – $1,500,000 – Funding would be used to enhance the Pediatric Nephrology Unit which treats children suffering from kidney failure by supporting renovation and acquiring new equipment for the expansion of services

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  179. Sam J. says:
    @Robjil
    Read Solving 911 by Chris Bollyn. He gives shows lots of evidence of the Israeli deep state's part in 911. Another clue, Wesley Clark said he saw a memo to destroy seven middle east countries for the 911 false flag. Why seven? Perhaps since it is the same number of nations that Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy to make a greater Israel in Deut. 7:1 in OT. This is very similar to Israel's Odin Yinon plan for the destruction of nations near Israel. Notice the mantra"seven" appear again with the seven nations ban for immigration. There was lots of protests against the ban. Though, no protests promoted against wars on these seven nations.

    “Solving 911″ by Chris Bollyn

    Yes this is very good. To make sure though we don’t need to read anything to see building 7 fall as if it were supported only by air. That does it right there. You need no other truth that there was a demo or bombing of some sort on 9-11. Unless you’re going to come up with some story that the support of buildings can vanish due to terrorism or some other such nonsense. Not that I doubt the Jews lying ability. It’s quite extraordinary but this would be difficult for even them.

    They have tried but were unsuccessful.

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    The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits. The culprits left their fingerprints all over the place. We just need a real "free" press to put pressure on questioning of these culprits.
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  180. A finer tuned meaning of the term pil pul

    a method of disputation among rabbinical scholars regarding the interpretation of Talmudic rules and principles or Scripture that involves the development of careful and often excessively subtle distinctions.

    http://archive.fo/3t5oi#selection-991.0-1171.13

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  181. Sam J. says:
    @Rurik (from another location)

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong
     

     I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.
     
    hmm

    so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power'

    wow

    The probably silly assed Jew Rurik (from another location) thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie. Actually what he’s proved is that I, Sam J., have come up with the only sure fire, 100% guaranteed method of solving all our problems with the Jews. This has been tried before and has NEVER fail to work. Get rid of the Jews. Deport them. Make sure they have no say over your future. This has been proven to raise the spirits of the people, make children happy, increase the prosperity of the country and raise the over all well being of the country.

    The Jews have been thrown out of every single country they’ve ever been to in any numbers for exactly the same reasons I’m saying we should throw them out now. Why waste more time on these people when it’s inevitable that they will be thrown out. Get ahead of the curve. Throw the Jews out now.

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    thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie
     
    umm..

    dickhead, this is what I said:

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?
     
    how is that taking what he said out of context?

    and your 'solution', is petulant idiocy

    it's enough that we begin to question the motivations of some Jews when they demand Eternal Wars for Israel, and open borders for white nations, and wonder if there may be ulterior motives that they're not divulging. No more duel citizens in positions of power, for instance.

    Such things are prudent, (if occasionally unfair) developments which have resulted from the ZUS (and others) having been been burned too often by treachery.

    as someone posted above, the attempt to ban a musician from performing because she supports BDS, are things that will raise the level of hatred for disloyalty (to the US, as opposed to Israel uber alles)
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  182. @Anon
    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try "I wouldn't bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She's so anti-English. I think it's got something to do with the loss of her family's gold mine in South Africa**".

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is "anti-Semitic" not a perfectly good generalisation about others' generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    gosh

    that’s the most hilarious and biting commentary I’ve ever read

    willingness to generalise negatively about Jews

    about Jews, or about something specific that some Jews either did or are doing?

    “I wouldn’t bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She’s so anti-English. I think it’s got something to do with the loss of her family’s gold mine in South Africa**”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Oppenheimer

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    some Palestinians also have a good reason for being suspicious of Jews.

    If you were to ask me, should Stanley Fisher have been appointed to vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, well I may very well have wondered why an Israeli Jew, born in Rhodesia, should be the person to trust with the US Treasury, I might have balked, and wondered at his loyalties.

    Would that make me a de facto anti-Semite? Because the whole notion is that you are not allowed to question or criticize Israeli Jews, or it’s proof that you’re an anti-Semite, yes?

    Just as you’re not allowed (if you’re a goyim) to criticize anything Jews do collectively, like shoot children in Palestine for target practice (or fun), or alter our immigration policies; or = it means you’re an anti-Semite who hates all Jews (simply because they follow a different religion).

    Why is “anti-Semitic” not a perfectly good generalisation about others’ generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    for one because, like ‘racist’ it’s become so overused as to be laughable.

    and, its always used as a smear to mislead and demonize, rather than inform.

    if you wanted to say that some KKK imbecile somewhere hates all Jews, and believes ‘the blood of Christ be on them’ all, for all eternity, and won’t talk to them or associate with them because they’re all bad, then fine. I’ll concede that there really might be actual ‘anti-Semite in the world.

    But 99,9999959939929 percent of the time, the smear is used to demonize their victims and benefit Jews at the expense of others who often have valid criticisms of some things that some Jews do.

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  183. @EliteCommInc.
    Having listened to the comment about Jews as nonwhites is peculiar. Peculiar because the Jews that most consume western energy are the Jews of Europe -- who are in fact almost entirely - white. in fact, the behavior of the European Jews (white) is to exclude those Jews of a darker hue on the claim that they are not jews based on skin color.

    Many if not most of the jews in Israel harbor the same prejudices, and anxieties as white in Europe and the US. I suspect that if Jews were not white, a holocaust might not have been enough to garner enough support to warrant them a return to Palestine.

    as for the Talmud being a sinister way of argument, it is no more tedious or legalistic than catholic catechisms, vedas-upanishads, etc. Religious beliefs are always accompanied by series of principles and dogmas written by humans to help or instruct followers to obey the rules. In western practice those extend to be expressed in very legalistic terms. Someone schooled in the same is going to develop a means of thing and expression in much the same manner. Buddhism, like hinduism has a long line of scholars or recognized authorities explicating what their beliefs mean in real terms in less legalistic rhetorical form. If anything it is the rhetorical gymnastics from this form that enables jews to excel in law, medication, philosophy, and psychiatry and finance, this all intense focus on details and how to advance them or get around them. People, get irritated with lawyers not because they are jewish, but because anyone schooled in technical fields of linguistics tends to hyper rationalize everything. It is this skill or bane that justifies torture, interventions, police misbehavior
    all manner of human interaction.

    What's great about the article is that it includes the the influences of Babylonia and Muslim influences. How the author gets to the conclusion about emotionalism is bizarre. He merely jumps to that conclusion based on the Talmudic form of explicating Old Testaments scripture for the purposes of linking the mundane to the supernatural. If anything strict adherence to the style, leads to a very pedantic, technical and tedious series of explanations of how to behave in order to be in good standing with God. One can certainly become emotional -- but the authors conclusion doesn't have much support, if any.

    Christ makes the following contention (one need not believe in Christ to get the point - but he was a jew schooled in the talmud tradition):

    "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel."
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=AKJV

    Thus so entwined in the details as to miss the larger meaning the details are intended to express. pulpil is actually avoided -- connecting this life to God's intent is missed because the weight is vested in the details as opposed to the larger meaning. its the hyperventilating on details which causes empasse and perhaps an emotional response. And it was those details that the Jews brought to the table when discussing how to draw territorial boundaries regarding Palestine, arriving with maps, and real estate lawyers, etc. The UN negotiators and the Palestinians were just unprepared for legal technicalities of a real estate debate.

    Details are important, but its not uncommon to miss the overall point by hyperventilating on details.

    I was thinking that Budhism is a meditation to separate your soul from your body.
    When you do it you have achieved Nirvana. The trouble with it that how you convince your spectators that your soul did leave your body?

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    i think its broader. I am not a Buddhist. But i do know that there are varying schools of Buddhism, each with their unique dogma of explication bridging the existential to the mundane to help those people who believe or practice those philosophies guides to best achieve nirvana -- they would challenge my use of the term dogma, but but each has their catechisms or Talmuds of sorts.
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  184. @AaronB
    Genius.

    Why have whites proven vulnerable to pilpul?

    European culture seeks to "prove" nothing, but to "deconstruct". Therefore they don't understand the psychology of "proving".

    Also, don't underestimate the power of what I call "mysterious praise". I was having dinner with a Jewish friend last week, and he was waxing lyrical about the awesomeness of the Talmud. He couldn't quite put into words what was so awesome about it, but was going on about how spiritual it was. He couldn't say how, tho. But he would send me lectures explaining it. He never did.

    The effect comes from implication and mystery. If he had mentioned anything specific, however amazing, the spell would have been broken. By staying vague, it intrigues and seduces.

    Its myth making, and it's powerful. Imagine if whites would lyrically declaim on the mysterious awesomeness of European culture. They couldn't quite say what it is, or put it into words at the moment, but there's no doubt it's amazing. Some other time it can be explained.

    The effect of that would be completely different from talking about democracy, science, etc. It would elevate European culture to the realm of the sacred and out of the realm of things like democrscy, etc.

    European culture seeks to “prove” nothing, but to “deconstruct”. Therefore they don’t understand the psychology of “proving”.

    yea, right

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

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  185. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Nothing what you mentioned is written in Main kampf.
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them and that there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany, and that they were only in administrative positions.
    Most of Mein Kampf is only organizational instructions for the party.nd also some grievances about what did happen to Germany as a result of defeat.
    Nothing in Main Kampf about Germans as a master race,
    And no Darvin mentioned in Men Kampf.
    If you disagree just show me a page and I can verify it for you.

    “…there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany…”
    Actually, there were Jeiwsh fighters.

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    I do like you, but probably could red my comments a little bit more carefully.
    I only summarized what Hitler has written in Main kampf.
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  186. @Sam J.
    The probably silly assed Jew Rurik (from another location) thinks he's so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie. Actually what he's proved is that I, Sam J., have come up with the only sure fire, 100% guaranteed method of solving all our problems with the Jews. This has been tried before and has NEVER fail to work. Get rid of the Jews. Deport them. Make sure they have no say over your future. This has been proven to raise the spirits of the people, make children happy, increase the prosperity of the country and raise the over all well being of the country.

    The Jews have been thrown out of every single country they've ever been to in any numbers for exactly the same reasons I'm saying we should throw them out now. Why waste more time on these people when it's inevitable that they will be thrown out. Get ahead of the curve. Throw the Jews out now.

    thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie

    umm..

    dickhead, this is what I said:

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    how is that taking what he said out of context?

    and your ‘solution’, is petulant idiocy

    it’s enough that we begin to question the motivations of some Jews when they demand Eternal Wars for Israel, and open borders for white nations, and wonder if there may be ulterior motives that they’re not divulging. No more duel citizens in positions of power, for instance.

    Such things are prudent, (if occasionally unfair) developments which have resulted from the ZUS (and others) having been been burned too often by treachery.

    as someone posted above, the attempt to ban a musician from performing because she supports BDS, are things that will raise the level of hatred for disloyalty (to the US, as opposed to Israel uber alles)

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    "...so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power’..."

    Oops. Sarcasm. I approve. I missed the context somehow. My apologies.
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  187. annamaria says:
    @Issac
    So thoroughly wiped out that we regained our ancestral homeland and grew our population like never before amid rising to international prominence. Alas this misfortune!

    “…and grew our population like never before…”
    – by creating a supremacist state? Time to apply to Israelis living abroad the same rules that Israelis apply to non-Jews in their country of Israel. Imagine the squealing!
    By the way, you live in an ancestral homeland of Palestinians who are the true descendants of ancient Jews, unlike your ridiculous Mielkovsky (Bibi), thuggish Avigdor Lieberman, fanatical and hateful Scharansky (a model for Bush the lesser), and the pious and obnoxious haridim that do not recognize the state rules but only talmud. And yes, Israel has also created the largest Ghetto. Moreover, your ziocon tribe is guilty of planning and initiating the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. Four million people died since 1999, among them hundreds of thousands of children. But as a Jewish woman pronounced, this “worth it.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

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  188. annamaria says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    I don't think MK is boring. Difficult, perhaps, but not boring. I avoid like the plague versions of MK that have been heavily annotated, such as the Raoul de Roussy de Sales version.

    I've been working on a project since Twelfth Night, and an extended passage from MK ch. 3 has caught my attention. I don't understand many of the specific political references AH makes to the various factions in Austrian government, etc., but the key point that applied directly to my project is that Christians, especially Protestants but also Catholics, are so committed to the abstractions of their beliefs -- i.e. "democracy," and "tolerance," and "love everyone," that they cling to those abstractions even at the dire cost of their concrete well-being (my quick and dirty précis of Hitler's main points in this passage).

    Here's part of that chapter, from Mein Kampf:

    This unfortunate habit of looking at all national demands from the viewpoint of a pre-conceived notion makes it impossible for us to see the subjective side of a thing which objectively contradicts one's own doctrine. It finally leads to a complete reversion in the relation of means to an end. Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the 'Authority of the State'. In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the 'Authority of the State' is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself; and he looks upon that as sufficient apology for his own miserable existence. Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance,anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being, who constituted the parliamentary majority, were small and incompetent men or maybe even on a lower grade of inferiority; because to such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the 'Authority of the State', and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of 'democracy'.

    In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations. The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of 'solidarity', but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a--German.

    It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease. . . .
     
    (nb. #1. I'm mentioned Prof. David Engel's lecture series, Understanding the Holocaust. Engel has a very unpleasant voice -- at least, it offends my ear. There's one snippet that I can't get out of my head: Engel says -- actually, barks, that "Hitler is all emotion, all ego, no intellect, no reason, just pure hate . . ." I'm not so sure about that.

    Another idiot Jew who jerks off by vilifying Hitler uses Wagner's operas as his vehicle. He concedes that Wagner was brilliant, but condemns Wagner because "Hitler liked him" (and also because Wagner wrote the "antisemitic" Judenthum, a strong critique of Jewish music-style. ) Yes, Hitler did like Wagner's operas. Hitler could, and did, hum or whistle the various leitmotifs from the Ring Cycle. I think there are ~250 of them. I wonder how many of them Engel might recognize? )

    (nb. #2. RobinG mentioned David Swanson, and he and his wild reaction to "Charlottesville" came to mind as I read this chapter from MK. Swanson is a pacifist, but he does not seem to see propaganda -- i.e. being systematically and persistently lied to and demonized -- as an act of war against which a person who values his liberty is duty-bound to resist and defend, with equal force.)

    When will we hear the condemnation of Kagans’ clan by the Lobby? The Ukrainian project has produced a rise of neo-Nazism and resulted in the rise of hate against Jews and Jewish culture: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined “Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined”
    When will Israel investigate Israeli citizen Kolomojsky for his open financing the neo-Nazi troopers in Ukraine? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/25326-ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers ” …the Azov fighters do more than wave a Swastika-like flag; they favor the Wolfsangel flag of Hitler’s SS divisions, much as some of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis still honor Hitler’s Ukrainian SS auxiliary, the Galician SS. A Ukrainian hero hailed during the Maidan protests was Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera whose paramilitary forces helped exterminate Jews and Poles.”

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    The JTA? Seriously?
    Why would you cite a 'news' source that is by it's very nature extremely biased, Zionist, utterly unreliable, & is obviously agenda driven?

    antisemitic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like


    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

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    , @SolontoCroesus
    You're haranguing the wrong person, annamaria.

    Nuland-Kagan should be condemned in her own right, not least by Americans, for violating the sovereignty of the Ukrainian people and state.

    The involvement of "neo-Nazis" sounds to me like Nuland-Kagan's idea of a smug joke.

    The Saker posted a video of Stephen Cohen explaining how Putin sliced-and-diced Stalin/Communism to make it palatable to 'new Russia' without totally condemning Stalin; Putin accomplished this by placing the burden of criminality on Germans. How original.

    In my view, pearl-clutching condemnation of neo-Nazis !! is the equivalent of tattooing a banner on one's forehead that says, I am Stupid, and I got that way by watching teevee.

    Such persistent and knee-jerk reactions are dangerous because they are devoid of critical thought and analysis; as such, the people who succumb to the mindless reaction will remain hopelessly unaware of how their own culture and liberties are being undermined.

    In my view, we need more people, not fewer, who are articulate "neo-Nazis."

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  189. Sam J. says:
    @Rurik (from another location)

    thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie
     
    umm..

    dickhead, this is what I said:

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?
     
    how is that taking what he said out of context?

    and your 'solution', is petulant idiocy

    it's enough that we begin to question the motivations of some Jews when they demand Eternal Wars for Israel, and open borders for white nations, and wonder if there may be ulterior motives that they're not divulging. No more duel citizens in positions of power, for instance.

    Such things are prudent, (if occasionally unfair) developments which have resulted from the ZUS (and others) having been been burned too often by treachery.

    as someone posted above, the attempt to ban a musician from performing because she supports BDS, are things that will raise the level of hatred for disloyalty (to the US, as opposed to Israel uber alles)

    “…so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power’…”

    Oops. Sarcasm. I approve. I missed the context somehow. My apologies.

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  190. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Sum
    As a fellow right wing American Jew, I couldn't agree more with this article. Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements. About 25% of American Jews voted Trump in 2016, but I suspect that figure will be higher in 2020 as Jews realize the slander they were fed about him was false.

    Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements.

    Agreed. If more and more Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement. Absent a signficant change in this direction anger towards the Jews will be magnified and our so called Republic will continue to be degraded.

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    "... Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement..."

    There is no rapprochement. Don't you know anything of history? How can you not know the attempts for thousands of years to "get along"" with the Jews? How can you not know the effects of Jews on any society they go to? How can you think this is different this time? This is the same type of talk that Alcoholics and drug attics use. That "this time" will be different. What the Jews are doing works for them. it doesn't work for the US or any other country they control, but it works for them. The only known method to deal with the Jews that has been tried and worked is to get rd of them. Move them away form you. Have no contact quoth them. Some have said that if we change on some way we can accommodate them. I say this is futile. We are not like them. We do not want to be like them. Ruthless, heartless and cruel. We don't want that so we must eject them from our society so we can become better. We don't need them in any way. They add only negatives to our society not positives. Any positives the Jews "claim" to add are minimal, mostly just extensions of our present capabilities in the first place and likely to be twisted in some deviant way as they have little control over their lust.
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  191. Wally says:
    @ANON
    And so few of them surely some must be right. (He's even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsarzgruppen in 1941).

    “And so few of them surely some must be right. (He’s even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsatzgruppen in 1941).”

    I suggest you pay attention and stop showing your ignorance. Frankly, you’re in over your head.
    As is previously stated:
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight non-uniformed terrorists / ‘partisans’ who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.

    The corrupt ‘Holocau$t Industry’ now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
    Is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    more here:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=einsatzgruppen

    Also search & debate here, IF you think you really know what you are talking about: https://forum.codoh.com
    Revisionists, all former Believers, are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

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  192. L.K says:
    @Miro23

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.
     
    I don't doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump's "America First" and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was - used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).

    miro23

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason.

    I do doubt. After all, many decades have gone by and 99.9% of zamericans probably don’t know about the USS Liberty…

    Organized Jewry obviously dreads the day a substantial % of the zamerican populace found out that not only the official 9-11 account is false, but that the Zionists were the ones who did it.

    US Marine Corps veteran, Vietnam veteran, graduate of the US Army War College & a Director of Studies at the US Army War College for over 5 years, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, says that after studying the facts surrounding 9/11 he is 100% certain that ISRAEL DID IT.

    @1:14 more or less, Dr.Sabrosky says that if the American people find out about it, Zionism and Israel are finished.”it’ll be a brutal war, and they are gone”..
    Listen to what he says:

    So, very high stakes for these folks, and they’ll use all their power – which they have a lot of – so the Zamerican people never find out the truth.

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    Alan Sabrosky in that video sounds like an old codger well into age related dementia. So what that a middle ranking military educator goes gaga and grandiose and expects us to accept his ipse dixit?
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Do you want to see the faces of your gypsy brothers?
    Here it is!
    http://www.euronews.com/2018/02/12/eu-signs-border-agreement-with-albania
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  193. Wally says:
    @annamaria
    When will we hear the condemnation of Kagans' clan by the Lobby? The Ukrainian project has produced a rise of neo-Nazism and resulted in the rise of hate against Jews and Jewish culture: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined "Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined"
    When will Israel investigate Israeli citizen Kolomojsky for his open financing the neo-Nazi troopers in Ukraine? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/25326-ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers " ...the Azov fighters do more than wave a Swastika-like flag; they favor the Wolfsangel flag of Hitler’s SS divisions, much as some of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis still honor Hitler’s Ukrainian SS auxiliary, the Galician SS. A Ukrainian hero hailed during the Maidan protests was Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera whose paramilitary forces helped exterminate Jews and Poles."

    The JTA? Seriously?
    Why would you cite a ‘news’ source that is by it’s very nature extremely biased, Zionist, utterly unreliable, & is obviously agenda driven?

    antisemitic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    http://www.codoh.com

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  194. Robjil says:
    @Sam J.
    "Solving 911" by Chris Bollyn

    Yes this is very good. To make sure though we don't need to read anything to see building 7 fall as if it were supported only by air. That does it right there. You need no other truth that there was a demo or bombing of some sort on 9-11. Unless you're going to come up with some story that the support of buildings can vanish due to terrorism or some other such nonsense. Not that I doubt the Jews lying ability. It's quite extraordinary but this would be difficult for even them.

    They have tried but were unsuccessful.

    The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits. The culprits left their fingerprints all over the place. We just need a real “free” press to put pressure on questioning of these culprits.

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    "...The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits..."

    This is not true. A complete and total falsehood. We know the building were demoed in some way because building 7 fell as if only air held it up. Building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. There are only two variables to something falling. The influence of gravity and the medium that provides resistance to the object falling, in this case air. The rock and the building fell the exact same speed. Gravity is of course the exact same on rocks, buildings or whatever. So if the rock was falling in air and the building fell the same then the buildings fall was only resisted by AIR just like the rock. We don't need anyone to tell us one damn thing about this. We know. We know this. It's no super secret. You can see it for yourself. We just need to arrest those that had anything to do with the security of the building and all the people who had control over them.
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  195. renfro says:
    @Anonymous
    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    As it would not necessarily be in Speer's interests to acknowledge that he worked for the man who could order that it would have made sense to ask Speer and no doubt there are records of his being asked about it. Did he deny it? [No,it seems. Its in his memoirs]. I've just Googled and of course it wasn't originally an "order" to Speer. The following suggests there would have been lots of copies of Hitler's "Nero Decree" floating around even if little action resulting from it and it seems plausible that Speer was put in charge of the destruction ad a way of Hitler backimg fown.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650213/This-week-in-history-Hitler-orders-the-destruction-of-Germany.html

    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    Yes I am sure. Did extensive goggling of quote and where it did come up was mostly in books that you can read on gogglebooks so I did….in none of the books where it appeared were any citations or any footnote for the quote given.
    None of the other sites where the quote appeared gave citations either.
    Whether Hitler said it or not no one seems able to attribute it to any source.

    If it came from Speers autobio none of them are citing his book as the source.

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  196. @annamaria
    "...there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany..."
    Actually, there were Jeiwsh fighters.

    I do like you, but probably could red my comments a little bit more carefully.
    I only summarized what Hitler has written in Main kampf.

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  197. renfro says:
    @Dissident X
    Thank you again, renfro, for excellent information.

    Many times I have ruminated extensively on attempting to 'model' a particular trend; so it is with the case of these argumentation techniques taught in the Talmud.
    It is very gratifying to find, contrary to the torrent of social prescriptions against even the consideration, that 'it is so!', and my own well-cycled considerations were very accurate.

    Have a better one.

    Welcome D

    If you want a good example of this:

    “”When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!”

    Then read some David Brooks columns in the NYT……he twist himself into a pretzel to disguise what he is actually saying.

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  198. @OilcanFloyd
    The U.S. and Israel do not mirror each other. The "genocide" of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans, and it took centuries to get the ball rolling. Zionists immediately started ethnically cleansing and are still working at it, since it's built in to their system. It's what they are about.

    No current or past immigrants to America came to live like Native Indians, no matter how much they try to guilt or shame Whites for the crimes that their White ancestors supposedly committed. People are coming to America to take advantage of what Whites built, and it's always been that way. By your logic, immigrants are receiving stolen property, at best.

    The land is still stolen…

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    And I'm sure you would give it all back to the natives and go back to wherever your ancestors came ftom, if you could. Sure!

    FWIW, the hospital I was born in is on land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?
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  199. Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire,
    Jews are best servants, they are the most precise and conscious and hard workers.
    But alas! they are the worst and most destructive lords.

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    "...Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire..."

    No they are not. They are like strychnine or poison gas. They serve only as uses of destruction. They have no other value. This is why we should eject them form our societies.
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  200. polskijoe says:

    What is Millers views on Israel?
    How many billions should the US send them?

    You see the vat majority of Jews in the US fall under three groups:
    New Left, Liberal, Neocon.
    The number combined is about the same or larger as Africans-Americans voting for Obama.

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    Your figures for Jews v. African-Americans who voted for Obama don't make sense. What sre your actual figures and what is your comparison intended to convey?
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  201. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Having listened to the comment about Jews as nonwhites is peculiar. Peculiar because the Jews that most consume western energy are the Jews of Europe -- who are in fact almost entirely - white. in fact, the behavior of the European Jews (white) is to exclude those Jews of a darker hue on the claim that they are not jews based on skin color.

    Many if not most of the jews in Israel harbor the same prejudices, and anxieties as white in Europe and the US. I suspect that if Jews were not white, a holocaust might not have been enough to garner enough support to warrant them a return to Palestine.

    as for the Talmud being a sinister way of argument, it is no more tedious or legalistic than catholic catechisms, vedas-upanishads, etc. Religious beliefs are always accompanied by series of principles and dogmas written by humans to help or instruct followers to obey the rules. In western practice those extend to be expressed in very legalistic terms. Someone schooled in the same is going to develop a means of thing and expression in much the same manner. Buddhism, like hinduism has a long line of scholars or recognized authorities explicating what their beliefs mean in real terms in less legalistic rhetorical form. If anything it is the rhetorical gymnastics from this form that enables jews to excel in law, medication, philosophy, and psychiatry and finance, this all intense focus on details and how to advance them or get around them. People, get irritated with lawyers not because they are jewish, but because anyone schooled in technical fields of linguistics tends to hyper rationalize everything. It is this skill or bane that justifies torture, interventions, police misbehavior
    all manner of human interaction.

    What's great about the article is that it includes the the influences of Babylonia and Muslim influences. How the author gets to the conclusion about emotionalism is bizarre. He merely jumps to that conclusion based on the Talmudic form of explicating Old Testaments scripture for the purposes of linking the mundane to the supernatural. If anything strict adherence to the style, leads to a very pedantic, technical and tedious series of explanations of how to behave in order to be in good standing with God. One can certainly become emotional -- but the authors conclusion doesn't have much support, if any.

    Christ makes the following contention (one need not believe in Christ to get the point - but he was a jew schooled in the talmud tradition):

    "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel."
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=AKJV

    Thus so entwined in the details as to miss the larger meaning the details are intended to express. pulpil is actually avoided -- connecting this life to God's intent is missed because the weight is vested in the details as opposed to the larger meaning. its the hyperventilating on details which causes empasse and perhaps an emotional response. And it was those details that the Jews brought to the table when discussing how to draw territorial boundaries regarding Palestine, arriving with maps, and real estate lawyers, etc. The UN negotiators and the Palestinians were just unprepared for legal technicalities of a real estate debate.

    Details are important, but its not uncommon to miss the overall point by hyperventilating on details.

    I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today

    I came across the below back in 2010. Jewish politicians using earmarks for Jews and Israel.
    This is what Jews do shovel our money to the Jews and Israel.
    And this was at a time when uninsured and underinsured Americans were standing in line at free clinics run by private doctors on their own dime.

    http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny05_ackerman/PR_032609.html

    Congressman Ackerman Announces FY 2010 Project Requests

    (Washington, DC) – In compliance with House rules and the Democratic Majority’s pledge to increase the transparency of the appropriations process, Congressman Ackerman announces the following project requests that he has received for consideration and submission in the FY 2010 appropriations process

    #American Friends of Ashdod Emergency Medical Center (Brooklyn, NY) – Medical Facility in Ashdod, Israel – $10,000,000 – Funding would be used to construct a medical center in Israel’s fifth largest city.

    # American Committee for Shaare Zedek (New York, NY) – Pediatric Nephrology Unit (located in Jerusalem) – $1,500,000 – Funding would be used to enhance the Pediatric Nephrology Unit which treats children suffering from kidney failure by supporting renovation and acquiring new equipment for the expansion of services

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    I have absolutely no issues with noting how various donors use their money to unduly influence US law makers to put the Interests of Israel before the US or the use what they call common interests without space between them.

    I think this is a very valid concern. While I do believe Israel has a right to exist and deserves her own self defense as all states do have a right to sovereignty. I am deeply concerned that we have law makers who think it appropriate to stifle or punish critique of any country including their own.

    Notes: the reference is new testament
    my only challenge is in the use of the term pil pul to a leap of emotionalism as opposed to the
    actual application - technical explanation of the spiritual to the mundane and teasing out
    meaning of both to aide understanding and practice of jewish believers.
    , @Sam J.
    "...I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today..."

    My friend this is an excellent response to their never ending smoke screen chatter.
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  202. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Hey genius! He's on the record saying it. You can hear it for yourself, from his fetid mouth to your wax clogged ears and dense bone to your zygote "brain". Try a simple search, or better still, ask a child to do it for you. You may want to listen to it a few times though as he uses really big words like WE HAD TO PULL IT.

    Toodle pip, Tosser.

    Found it easily of course. But so what? My point remains untouched. It apparently didn’t inspire anyone to ask clarifying questions which is odd if it was sinister. What is he saying happened? Even if it goes beyond saying “we stopped trying to save it” again? sp what. You don’t get close to proving that the destruction of WTC 7 was part of any intelligible 9/11 plot. There is no reason to believe its most probable explanation was other than as an accidental add on to the big plan’s results.

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    Please do not talk about technical things. You come through stupid. Please trust me.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Your point remains untouched only as long as one is dense enough, or in your case deceitful enough, to leave out the FACT that the destruction of WTC7 was a blatant controlled demolition.

    Keep your hand lotion and issues handy, tosser.
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  203. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @polskijoe
    What is Millers views on Israel?
    How many billions should the US send them?

    You see the vat majority of Jews in the US fall under three groups:
    New Left, Liberal, Neocon.
    The number combined is about the same or larger as Africans-Americans voting for Obama.

    Your figures for Jews v. African-Americans who voted for Obama don’t make sense. What sre your actual figures and what is your comparison intended to convey?

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    According to the stats:

    90-95% of African Americans who voted in the elections, chose Obama.

    Lets compare it to Jews shall we?

    68-78% of Jews vote for Democrat when Obama was there. (Liberal and New Left Jews).
    Around 25% of Jews vote for Republican (almost all of them are Israeli firsters and neocons).

    The amount of Conservative Jews like Paul Gottfried, who attack both the above, is minimal.
    I would bet 10% at most.

    Summary: Most Jews support Israel moderately or a lot. thats 7.5/10 Jews in the US.
    Most Jews are working to bring in more third worlders, want loads of money send to Israel,
    they prefer themselves over being Americans, Most Jews support LBGT, abortions, open borders, and making sure to pressure USA to serve Israel interests.

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  204. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I was thinking that Budhism is a meditation to separate your soul from your body.
    When you do it you have achieved Nirvana. The trouble with it that how you convince your spectators that your soul did leave your body?

    i think its broader. I am not a Buddhist. But i do know that there are varying schools of Buddhism, each with their unique dogma of explication bridging the existential to the mundane to help those people who believe or practice those philosophies guides to best achieve nirvana — they would challenge my use of the term dogma, but but each has their catechisms or Talmuds of sorts.

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  205. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    The "Holocaust" narrative is easy to deconstruct when one descends from vague and nebulous generalities, i.e., the pseudo-religious narrative- to specific historical facts and events which are either empirically verifiable or falsifiable.

    With respect to the alleged crimes of the Einsatzgruppen, a perfect example of this is the alleged massacre at Babi Yar ravine outside of Kiev, where, it is alleged, the Einsatzgruppen murdered upwards of 30,000 Jews, buried them inside the ravine, then subsequently exhumed the mass graves and burned them to ashes.

    While it is a documented fact that there were reprisal executions for the terrorist bombings which killed many members of the German occupation forces in Kiev (which certainly involved some Jews and which were not illegal under the international laws regarding the conduct of war in force at that time) there is not a shred of physical or documentary evidence that the numbers of those executed reached the thousands, let alone tens of thousands:

    There are no traces of mass graves or human "cremains" dating from that period commensurate with many hundreds, let alone thousands of victims.

    Aerial reconnaissance photos taken around the time of the "mass exhumations and cremations" of the bodies of the victims show virtually no major disturbances of the ground in the ravine, and no access roads into and out of the ravine. Given the fact that some 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been required for such a massive outdoor cremation, how would the Germans have pulled this off without easy access to the ravine? Also, where are the huge quantities of wood ash?

    Given the fact that the ravine appears to have been used as a place of execution by the NKVD long before the German invasion, and the complete absence of any physical evidence, it is entirely likely that the Babi Yar legend is a completely free invention of the Soviet propaganda machine.

    As you refer to what it takes to burn bodies can you expand our edecation by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won’t burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?

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    First, please expand upon your own edication. Please!
    , @Wally
    Hellooo. A human body is mostly water.

    recommended:

    The Recovery of Human Fat in the Cremation Pits
    By Carlo Mattogno
    https://codoh.com/library/document/3332/?lang=en

    The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau
    By Carlo Mattogno
    https://codoh.com/library/document/921/?lang=en

    www.codoh.com

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  206. @Anonymous
    Found it easily of course. But so what? My point remains untouched. It apparently didn't inspire anyone to ask clarifying questions which is odd if it was sinister. What is he saying happened? Even if it goes beyond saying "we stopped trying to save it" again? sp what. You don't get close to proving that the destruction of WTC 7 was part of any intelligible 9/11 plot. There is no reason to believe its most probable explanation was other than as an accidental add on to the big plan's results.

    Please do not talk about technical things. You come through stupid. Please trust me.

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  207. @renfro
    I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today

    I came across the below back in 2010. Jewish politicians using earmarks for Jews and Israel.
    This is what Jews do shovel our money to the Jews and Israel.
    And this was at a time when uninsured and underinsured Americans were standing in line at free clinics run by private doctors on their own dime.


    http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny05_ackerman/PR_032609.html

    Congressman Ackerman Announces FY 2010 Project Requests

    (Washington, DC) - In compliance with House rules and the Democratic Majority’s pledge to increase the transparency of the appropriations process, Congressman Ackerman announces the following project requests that he has received for consideration and submission in the FY 2010 appropriations process

    #American Friends of Ashdod Emergency Medical Center (Brooklyn, NY) – Medical Facility in Ashdod, Israel – $10,000,000 – Funding would be used to construct a medical center in Israel’s fifth largest city.

    # American Committee for Shaare Zedek (New York, NY) – Pediatric Nephrology Unit (located in Jerusalem) – $1,500,000 – Funding would be used to enhance the Pediatric Nephrology Unit which treats children suffering from kidney failure by supporting renovation and acquiring new equipment for the expansion of services

    I have absolutely no issues with noting how various donors use their money to unduly influence US law makers to put the Interests of Israel before the US or the use what they call common interests without space between them.

    I think this is a very valid concern. While I do believe Israel has a right to exist and deserves her own self defense as all states do have a right to sovereignty. I am deeply concerned that we have law makers who think it appropriate to stifle or punish critique of any country including their own.

    Notes: the reference is new testament
    my only challenge is in the use of the term pil pul to a leap of emotionalism as opposed to the
    actual application – technical explanation of the spiritual to the mundane and teasing out
    meaning of both to aide understanding and practice of jewish believers.

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  208. renfro says:

    Here’s another Jew scam to outrage you. This is what Jews do.

    The American Heritage Abroad was created to keep up graves and memorials to Americans killed in wars and buried overseas. But that’s not what its doing. It was a Jew scam from the beginning and the worst part is it hasn’t been shut down yet in spite of the scandals it has been embroiled in.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/

    The Commission is an agency of the Government of the United States of America separate from any other agency. The Jews who run it now claim it was set for jews.

    American Hertiage Abroad was created by US Public Law 99-83 below—-it says not one word about jews, jewish graves or the holocaust..iow it was intended to keep up mainly the graves of americans killed and buried overseas in wars.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/United%20States%20Code%20Title%2054%20Chapter%203123_Law%20establishing%20Commission.pdf?ver=2016-03-17-023726-900

    Now click on the Projects link below to view their projects…which are 99% Jewish, no American non Jewish servicemen graves covered. In fact most of their projects don’t even involved Americans , they are for Jews born and died in foreign countries…not American born.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Projects

    Now read this letter 10 page letter to the head of America Abroad from congress detailing how they have been spending our money..lavish trip, salaries of $`104,000 for one days work a week, setting up and running a lobby group bringing in more than 1.7 million a year for foreign interest and on an on…it will blow your mind.

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    That all sounds scandalous. To help readers follow up readily can you wuote or link the speeches in Congress or accompanying explanatory memoranda that explained the purpose of the legislation?
    , @Sam J.
    This scam is just one of a bewildering amount of scams the Jews are involved in and just another reason we should get rid of the people. The only solution to our Jew problem is to get rid of them. It takes too much effort to constantly be checking up on them to keep them form acting in despicable ways. It's much easier to just get rid of them.
    , @Wally
    There are no 'holocaust' mass graves as alleged to keep up.

    More of the cited preferential treatment for Jews:

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation.
    In fact the Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.

    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers "loan" that 'Israel' receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously "forgives" all these huge debts. As if it wasn't assumed at the beginning.

    "Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA"
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg

    "Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country."
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo

    Fighting Israel's Wars
    How the United States military has become Zionized
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/fighting-israels-wars/

    'Join the US army, Fight for Israel
    http://68.media.tumblr.com/639563970a638b606f4adb0ef05c778b/tumblr_inline_o7t4eewwJn1r75mb5_500.jpg

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  209. @annamaria
    When will we hear the condemnation of Kagans' clan by the Lobby? The Ukrainian project has produced a rise of neo-Nazism and resulted in the rise of hate against Jews and Jewish culture: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined "Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined"
    When will Israel investigate Israeli citizen Kolomojsky for his open financing the neo-Nazi troopers in Ukraine? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/25326-ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers " ...the Azov fighters do more than wave a Swastika-like flag; they favor the Wolfsangel flag of Hitler’s SS divisions, much as some of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis still honor Hitler’s Ukrainian SS auxiliary, the Galician SS. A Ukrainian hero hailed during the Maidan protests was Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera whose paramilitary forces helped exterminate Jews and Poles."

    You’re haranguing the wrong person, annamaria.

    Nuland-Kagan should be condemned in her own right, not least by Americans, for violating the sovereignty of the Ukrainian people and state.

    The involvement of “neo-Nazis” sounds to me like Nuland-Kagan’s idea of a smug joke.

    The Saker posted a video of Stephen Cohen explaining how Putin sliced-and-diced Stalin/Communism to make it palatable to ‘new Russia’ without totally condemning Stalin; Putin accomplished this by placing the burden of criminality on Germans. How original.

    In my view, pearl-clutching condemnation of neo-Nazis !! is the equivalent of tattooing a banner on one’s forehead that says, I am Stupid, and I got that way by watching teevee.

    Such persistent and knee-jerk reactions are dangerous because they are devoid of critical thought and analysis; as such, the people who succumb to the mindless reaction will remain hopelessly unaware of how their own culture and liberties are being undermined.

    In my view, we need more people, not fewer, who are articulate “neo-Nazis.”

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    If one doesn't want to call it NeoNazism then call it Banderism. Banderism is real in US ruled Ukraine . It is sick and cruel to the bone. During the WW2 era, Stefan Bandera and his team was into killing off any non- Western Ukrainians in their part of North West Ukraine - Galicia. His team did so. Poles were mostly targeted. One of the sick concepts of Banderism of today is killing off pro-Russians. They are considered bugs to be squashed. Why bugs? The Soviet army gave the St. George ribbon to Soviet soldiers as a high military honor. This ribbon has orange and black stripes like the stripes on a Colorado beetle. During Soviet Holidays in US ruled Ukraine, young Banderist thugs regularly attack 90 year olds who wear the St. George's ribbon. One 9o year old women who was splashed with green paint by these thugs died the next day from the trauma. The Nuland-Kagan team are geniuses in evil. They created a European version of Isis. Banderism is a destructive, violent ideology. It is destroying Ukraine and its people from within just like Isis does elsewhere. It does not create or develop anything. All it does is destroy. It's ideology is like a mad dog with rabies. Imagine if the Russians did such a coup in Canada. Then, people put in place who have an extremely violent anti-American ideology, which believes Americans are bugs to be killed without trial. This is what is happening in US ruled Ukraine.
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  210. Mulegino1 says:

    Bodies “with fat on them” do not burn on their own. If flammable liquid is poured on them, they will catch fire and be scorched, but they will not be reduced to ashes.

    In order to burn a single body on an outdoor cremation pyre takes approximately 165 kilos of dried cured firewood and takes hours to accomplish; modern, state of the art crematory retorts take at the very least one hour to cremate a single body, perhaps much longer. Successful cremation can only be achieved under very precise thermal limits. If the fire or, in the case of the heated air generated by conventional crematory ovens is too hot, the body will become rubbery and will not be reducible to “cremains” and if the fire is not hot enough, the body will simply be scorched and the fire extinguished.

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    Nacis made them drink a hard liqueur and than it worked, Like bottle or two.
    (Obviously you never heard about spontaneous combustion,)
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  211. renfro says:

    PLEASE PEOPLE….TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY.

    Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down in Germany and the holocaust and religious babble, they love that better than a pig loves mud.

    But you are not going to win the war that way….you have to keep up with and expose what they doing now, from taking our money to luring us into wars for fighting their ME competitors, to controlling our congress, to undermining our constitution and free speech, to interfering in our trade policies, to attacking our white European founders, to rallying blacks to attack whites and destroy American historical monuments, to having books unflattering to Jews banned from public reading.

    O.K. now you can go back to your useless arguing about the past that you cant do a g’damn thing about. Guess you don’t really want to get the Jews out of our business…..maybe you want them to hang around after all.

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    Right on! I am fed-up also.
    , @Sam J.
    "...TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY..."

    Actually we shouldn't even do that. We all know they are a despicable, lying, back stabbing, deviant, tribe of psychopaths and what we should really concentrate on is how to get rid of them. We should do so peacefully if we can but they have to go no matter what. We should get together the best minds we have and think of a way to drive off the Jews forever.
    , @L.K
    refro:

    ...Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down...
     
    Do not agree. According to this kind of logic we should not even bother with 9-11, after all, it is in the past...
    Listen, in terms of history, stuff that happened over a 100 years ago is just "yesterday", and it heavily affects what is going on today in the world.

    ― George Orwell, 1984
    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    Do some of the Trolls here use these things as an obfuscation tactic? Yes.

    Still worth talking about it, if one does so intelligently.

    Take care
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  212. @36 ulster
    Bravo! Nailed it!!

    Look you said a lot of things many of us have been wanting to hear for so long and yeah we notice the stephen millers but for every one of them there’s not a time wise there’s a hundred thousand tim wise. Youre right it was and is insane to treat us like the enemy, and its definitely good for the jews to stop doing that now that its apparent we are about to lose our shit on the left.But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again. and i think the only way to find out will test you beyond your breaking point.so you might be better just slipping out quietly now. theres physically speaking no reason the jews that have been with us for a couple thousand years are any less white than say greeks. and you have contributed as much as any other ‘whites’ to west civ. but you have never seen yourselves as such and so we can never see you as such.I dont worry when the greeks are worrying about whats good for the greek i tend to cheer their cultural preservation on as a conservative i like to see culture which is always granular preserved.I even cheer the hasid warring with the hipster chicks in williamsburg, But thats not what we are talking about. part of what makes you jews jews is this uber otherness, and while it can be admired in a lot of ways it means i can never not understand jews 2% having half the power and half the wealth is an other overclass, and that’s simply untenable. It can not stand.so along with taking hits this late in the game by SJWs are you willing to end your jewishness, whats needed is to obliterate the ability to think of ones self as jewish, that must be illegal and jews must be forced to marry out and until sufficiently blended genetically not allowed to hold positions of national interest.maybe if you had written what you wrote and it was taken up by a majority of jews a few decades earlier but what you have done is worse than the holocaust by orders of magnitude, and frankly your war with germany was as far as I can tell the exact same situation you overstepped their subverted their culture and economy and then tried to export your murderous revolution from russia and got a sound thrashing. So what this time you see the reaction coming and think like moldbug youll form a loyal opposition to yourself like some munstein by proxy no thanks unless yopure willing to be subsumed into white dna once and for all just please leave

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    "...But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again..."

    Well I know. For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can't be trusted. Never, not even in the slightest.
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  213. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous
    Ah there's life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    As "neo-liberalism" "economic rationalism" or whatever you want to call the continued opening up of markets over the last 70 years had nothing to do with Jews or much to do with banks in most countries you might like to consider it in the light of e.g. many millions of people around the world getting an economic leg up which is what a good Christian would want as long as it didn't require poverty and starvation for others. The average American hasn't done well out of the "neo-liberal" opening to the world because of (a) the 1965 Immigration legislation (b) illegal immigration (c) waste in health and pharmaceuticals (d) waste on arms and war (e) an inadequate education system for most (f) subsidies to unproductive minorities (g) union agreements such as those in the motor industry which just about destroyed their employers when facing foreign competition.....not much left for exploitative capitalists to do....

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse due to fire. By now the evidence is overwhelming, but the government still insists that it did fall due to fire. Why are they lying?

    There’s also a great deal of evidence that the other two towers didn’t collapse due to fire either , but the government insists that they did. So again, why are they lying?

    The detailed 9/11 story arrived in the media perfectly formed and at full volume almost as the planes hit. How was that possible? Where were the doubts, investigations, alternative theories etc. The propaganda was ready to go on the signal.

    And the government lied about events down in Florida prior to 9/11. Supposedly the Arab pilots crept into the Florida flight schools unseen and fooled everybody, when in fact, it was quite the reverse. They were on CIA run airfields and everyone down there knew they were special and were being shepherded through a process. Normal legal/documentary hurdles didn’t apply and the police were not allowed to touch them.

    OK, 9/11 was a big lie. It was the organized murder of 3000 Americans aimed to trigger the War on Terror but still no Coup.

    The doubts come from other events in Florida.

    [MORE]

    On the morning of 9/11 a van full of supposed Arab newsmen arrived at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort claiming to have an appointment for a poolside interview with George Bush (who was staying there), but was out jogging at the time (and security blocked them). They left and disappeared.

    Later that day, after the towers were hit, Bush was rushed onto Airforce One and was greatly frustrated to find that he was completely out of contact with Washington for hours, supposedly through a combination of security/technical problems. It should have been Bush who took charge of events, but in fact he was excluded, while the US for an afternoon became an Emergency Dictatorship under Cheney along with the Neo-cons. If the MSM, and the CIA knew that 9/11 was about to start then so did they, and they also knew that the towers were coming down and were positioned for it.

    Daniel Hopsicker’s opinion after looking at everything that happened in Florida, is that the fake “Arab” newsmen were in fact linked to 9/11 (too much of a coincidence) and the visit was a failed assassination attempt. If Bush had been assassinated by “Arab terrorists” on the morning of 9/11, that would have left Cheney and the Neo-cons with absolute power in US under an Emergency (COG Continuity of Government) regime.

    Source: Daniel Hopsicker’s, “Welcome to Terrorland” https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terrorland-Mohamed-Cover-up-Florida/dp/0975290673/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518391092&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=welme+to+terrorland

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    Well, thanks. It hangs together as well as a good thriller and I hope the Netflix version makes you a fortune.
    , @Sam J.
    "...The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse due to fire. .."

    Hell no it didn't collapse by fire. Let's make sure that what happened is 100% understood. The building fell exactly as if it were held up by AIR. This means it fell the same speed as if you magically suspended all the buildings parts in the air then dropped them. To fall like this the fires would have had to been so hot that they would have has to boil away all the steel and concrete in the building that was holding it up. Well we KNOW that didn't happen. Most of the glass had no damage at all and any fire that could vaporize steel, (vaporizing steel into a gas is really, really difficult and would take some serious heat), would have melted glass far, far, far sooner then it would melt steel.
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  214. Art says:
    @jack daniels
    Good sentiments. Trump like Obama before him is somehow being subverted from peace candidate to just another errand boy. I don't know what Miller's views are on the middle east but I share your hunch. What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    jack daniels,

    Good observation – that is a sign of cleverness – not wisdom. Red meat partisan one liners are always suspect.

    Miller could be a whole lot of “pull the wool over their eyes.”

    Think Peace — Art

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  215. Jo says:
    @Anonymous
    "The Jews". The way you both use the term is the stuff of fantasy. These are Jewish flavoured spirits concocted in your heads.

    “Many persons pass for normal, and indeed for highly valuable members of society, who are incurably mad.” Herman Hesse

    “The Jews are an incurably bad people, a people always seeking its own benefits and wanting to enslave the world, a people which in spite of all its efforts to assimilate, still remains strange and hostile to the non- Jews. The Jew is the torchbearer of capitalism, exploitation, usury, and suppression. At the same time, he is also the yeast of history, upsetting and destroying all that is stable, the troublemaker incarnate. In short, the Jewish people is the curse of humanity.”
    Nahman Syrkin 1898, In: The Zionist Idea, pp 337

    “Once he finds out who he is, what can Console him?” Calderon

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  216. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As you refer to whst ot takes to burn bodies can you expand our education by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won’t burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?

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  217. @Anonymous
    Found it easily of course. But so what? My point remains untouched. It apparently didn't inspire anyone to ask clarifying questions which is odd if it was sinister. What is he saying happened? Even if it goes beyond saying "we stopped trying to save it" again? sp what. You don't get close to proving that the destruction of WTC 7 was part of any intelligible 9/11 plot. There is no reason to believe its most probable explanation was other than as an accidental add on to the big plan's results.

    Your point remains untouched only as long as one is dense enough, or in your case deceitful enough, to leave out the FACT that the destruction of WTC7 was a blatant controlled demolition.

    Keep your hand lotion and issues handy, tosser.

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    Apart from the FACT that fires burning all day almost certainly produced a weakening of the reduced standards lightweight steel framing in WTC7 so it was reasonable to fear the same outcome as had occurred earlier with the Towers that had been apparently weakened by heat what is so blatantly clear? Where do you say explosives were placed for the "controlled demolition"?
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  218. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!
     
    The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn't collapse due to fire. By now the evidence is overwhelming, but the government still insists that it did fall due to fire. Why are they lying?

    There's also a great deal of evidence that the other two towers didn't collapse due to fire either , but the government insists that they did. So again, why are they lying?

    The detailed 9/11 story arrived in the media perfectly formed and at full volume almost as the planes hit. How was that possible? Where were the doubts, investigations, alternative theories etc. The propaganda was ready to go on the signal.

    And the government lied about events down in Florida prior to 9/11. Supposedly the Arab pilots crept into the Florida flight schools unseen and fooled everybody, when in fact, it was quite the reverse. They were on CIA run airfields and everyone down there knew they were special and were being shepherded through a process. Normal legal/documentary hurdles didn't apply and the police were not allowed to touch them.

    OK, 9/11 was a big lie. It was the organized murder of 3000 Americans aimed to trigger the War on Terror but still no Coup.

    The doubts come from other events in Florida.


    On the morning of 9/11 a van full of supposed Arab newsmen arrived at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort claiming to have an appointment for a poolside interview with George Bush (who was staying there), but was out jogging at the time (and security blocked them). They left and disappeared.

    Later that day, after the towers were hit, Bush was rushed onto Airforce One and was greatly frustrated to find that he was completely out of contact with Washington for hours, supposedly through a combination of security/technical problems. It should have been Bush who took charge of events, but in fact he was excluded, while the US for an afternoon became an Emergency Dictatorship under Cheney along with the Neo-cons. If the MSM, and the CIA knew that 9/11 was about to start then so did they, and they also knew that the towers were coming down and were positioned for it.

    Daniel Hopsicker's opinion after looking at everything that happened in Florida, is that the fake "Arab" newsmen were in fact linked to 9/11 (too much of a coincidence) and the visit was a failed assassination attempt. If Bush had been assassinated by "Arab terrorists" on the morning of 9/11, that would have left Cheney and the Neo-cons with absolute power in US under an Emergency (COG Continuity of Government) regime.

    Source: Daniel Hopsicker's, "Welcome to Terrorland" https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terrorland-Mohamed-Cover-up-Florida/dp/0975290673/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518391092&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=welme+to+terrorland

    Well, thanks. It hangs together as well as a good thriller and I hope the Netflix version makes you a fortune.

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    Well, thanks. It hangs together as well as a good thriller and I hope the Netflix version makes you a fortune.
     
    Well thank you too, but there seems to be a problem with the screenplay. Building 7 is supposed to be collapsing in a flaming inferno but the film shows it going down with virtual no fires at all. Also, it's the wrong type of building. Modern steel frame high rises don't collapse through fire even if they're engulfed in flames.

    The screenplay really called for some old wooden building.

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  219. @Anonymous
    As you refer to what it takes to burn bodies can you expand our edecation by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won't burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?

    First, please expand upon your own edication. Please!

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    Performing your cleverest truck sgain. Hmm. And what do you take from his apparently random tossing in of 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured [sic] wood? Snorting about random BS is one obvious reaction. But isn't it more civilised to put him on the spot with polite questioning?

    Did you "cure" your firewood in your youth?
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  220. @bike-anarchist
    The land is still stolen...

    And I’m sure you would give it all back to the natives and go back to wherever your ancestors came ftom, if you could. Sure!

    FWIW, the hospital I was born in is on land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?

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    "...land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?..."

    95% of all the Indians in North America died off from disease. The land that settlers came to was mostly empty. The Indians weren't driven off. There was no one there.
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  221. Ragno says:
    @AaronB
    Europeans don't really need Jews to help them, they just need them to step aside while they fix the cultural mistakes that got them into trouble.

    It was like kicking a man while he's down, and it's good that it will stop.

    However, what Jews do in the end is irrelevant. Whites need to fix their own culture. And there are clear signs that this is happening, which is why Jews are starting to write sycophantic articles like this.

    Let's be honest. Some Jews are beginning to realize that whites are waking up, and so of course are now trying to offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear. It's classic tactics when you're losing.

    Articles like this are indications of Jewish fear, nothing more. This article is also tellingly saturated with Jewish arrogance, as if they're the decisive factor. In reality, it's a desperate bid to avoid being sidelined.

    Let's be further honest. No Jew who hasn't repudiated his identity can really act for any interests other than Jewish, whatever he tells himself. That's what it means to identify as a Jew. Only a Jew who repudiates his identity can, and even then there are suspicions.

    Whites will have to act like Israel. In Israel, non-jews can sometimes attain high positions, but in limited numbers, and not the highest (prime minister or mossad chief, for instance, are off the table).

    Whites would be fools who learn nothing from history if they now accept Jewish "help". How many times whites can be fooled will soon be seen. In other words, if whites are truly revitalized or not, will soon be seen.

    The new white dispensation can accommodate Jews in a limited fashion, as extremely junior partners in small numbers, of proven loyalty, but will have to take measures to exclude Jews from public and economic life in any prominent capacity, much as Israel does to non-Jews.

    We should emphatically NOT wish for more Jewish figures like Miller. That he is, now, necessary at all is because this is a transitional situation.

    Whites - don't be idiots yet again. But I don't think you will.

    Well said, but…… I wonder what sort of reality you live in. From the tone of your remarks, you would think that whites can openly converse in this manner anywhere in the public square – discuss and argue the major issues, and the short- and long-range trajectory, of white society in majority-white nations, without fear of censorship or criminalization or overnight Unperson status. Now me, I see nothing of the kind; further, I no longer see even the pretense of gentile self-determination as anything but a cautionary horror story Jews tell each other – and their favored-nation minority “purse puppies” – around the metaphoric campfire, to reinforce once again the absolute necessity of maintaining complete control of public information and allowable discourse.

    “Jews are beginning to ….offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear….classic tactics when you’re losing” just seems like further delusion; if anything, such a diagnosis smacks more of the psychological coping tactics of a beaten people too addicted to their rapidly-dwindling levels of both creature comfort and self-respect to honestly audit their situation and future prospects, and acknowledge that they are rapidly-dwindling.

    Without regaining control of our institutions, and the vigorous exercising of our cultural hegemony inside our immediate spheres of influence – our nations, certainly, but first and foremost our communities, our streets, our homes and our relationships with one another, you may rest assured that any outsider’s “sympathy and aid” will be just as genuine as their “fear”. Who could possibly fear a people so myopically passive-aggressive that they can be talked out of their self-interest and conned into surrendering their natural sovereignty…for ANY reason….and without a shot fired?

    Possibly the Martians, or a colony of Shmoo – but no canny desert tribe of any stripe would see anything but easy pickings.

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    Everything changes. Nothing lasts. Elites come and go. Political orders rise, then crumble. Peoples decline, then rise again, then decline.

    What seems so solid one day, seems like a dream the next.

    The Jews had a good run. But nothing lasts.

    In a sense, the new political order is already emerging. The comments you see are a reflection of a shift that has already happened.

    Jewish tactical intelligence is already in decline, and they are sticking to old tactics that no longer work. It's a bad sign.

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  222. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    First, please expand upon your own edication. Please!

    Performing your cleverest truck sgain. Hmm. And what do you take from his apparently random tossing in of 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured [sic] wood? Snorting about random BS is one obvious reaction. But isn’t it more civilised to put him on the spot with polite questioning?

    Did you “cure” your firewood in your youth?

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    Your total confusion is again on display with this comment. Try to concentrate, perhaps it would help if you only trolled one person at a time.
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  223. @Mulegino1
    Bodies "with fat on them" do not burn on their own. If flammable liquid is poured on them, they will catch fire and be scorched, but they will not be reduced to ashes.

    In order to burn a single body on an outdoor cremation pyre takes approximately 165 kilos of dried cured firewood and takes hours to accomplish; modern, state of the art crematory retorts take at the very least one hour to cremate a single body, perhaps much longer. Successful cremation can only be achieved under very precise thermal limits. If the fire or, in the case of the heated air generated by conventional crematory ovens is too hot, the body will become rubbery and will not be reducible to "cremains" and if the fire is not hot enough, the body will simply be scorched and the fire extinguished.

    Nacis made them drink a hard liqueur and than it worked, Like bottle or two.
    (Obviously you never heard about spontaneous combustion,)

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  224. @renfro
    PLEASE PEOPLE....TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY.

    Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down in Germany and the holocaust and religious babble, they love that better than a pig loves mud.

    But you are not going to win the war that way....you have to keep up with and expose what they doing now, from taking our money to luring us into wars for fighting their ME competitors, to controlling our congress, to undermining our constitution and free speech, to interfering in our trade policies, to attacking our white European founders, to rallying blacks to attack whites and destroy American historical monuments, to having books unflattering to Jews banned from public reading.

    O.K. now you can go back to your useless arguing about the past that you cant do a g'damn thing about. Guess you don't really want to get the Jews out of our business.....maybe you want them to hang around after all.

    Right on! I am fed-up also.

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  225. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Your point remains untouched only as long as one is dense enough, or in your case deceitful enough, to leave out the FACT that the destruction of WTC7 was a blatant controlled demolition.

    Keep your hand lotion and issues handy, tosser.

    Apart from the FACT that fires burning all day almost certainly produced a weakening of the reduced standards lightweight steel framing in WTC7 so it was reasonable to fear the same outcome as had occurred earlier with the Towers that had been apparently weakened by heat what is so blatantly clear? Where do you say explosives were placed for the “controlled demolition”?

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    Anonymous is a fat Jew liar. There were no massive fires burning all day. The steel weakened would have made no difference as the building fell as if it had NO support not weakened support. This means the fires would have had to burn so hot as to vaporize the steel columns into the same density as AIR.

    It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where they were light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

    Here’s a video of reporters going into building #7 AFTER the North tower supposedly fell on it and destroyed it sufficiently enough for it to collapse completely. Look at :54 you see the #7 for the building on the door.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqGRv7CQlc

    Now you’ve seen video of the inside where there is NO massive damage to make all four sides of the building fall. You want pictures of the back? Here’s a picture of the South side of building #7, facing the North tower, after it had fallen. There is no huge gaping hole. There is no massive fire going all the way up the building. So you can’t say it’s the South side and we have plenty of video and pictures of the North side of building #7 pictures with no damage at all.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/b7_nofire.jpg

    Here’ another NIST FOIA released video taken between one and two hours before building #7 fell. There’s around three floors on fire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssGRpcB_ms

    (Watch the reporter pan up at 2:54. You can clearly see the whole building is not on fire. This side shown is the North side of building #7. Later you can see the fires mostly around three or four floors only and in isolated spots.)
    If the fires were hot enough to melt steel then why isn’t the glass in the windows melted? Glass melts at an extremely lower temperature that steel. Ever put a metal can and a glass bottle in a campfire? The glass bottle melts but the steel can will still be intact. These fires were no hotter than a campfire. One last video of all sides from 23 angles also showing the miraculous collapse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLcUxV1dPo

    Fireman retired so now he can talk. He was right next to the damn building. Says,”…there was an explosion and the building came down…”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrpLp-X0ws

    For more info look at a site by some engineers that lay out the evidence.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/
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  226. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro
    Here's another Jew scam to outrage you. This is what Jews do.

    The American Heritage Abroad was created to keep up graves and memorials to Americans killed in wars and buried overseas. But that's not what its doing. It was a Jew scam from the beginning and the worst part is it hasn't been shut down yet in spite of the scandals it has been embroiled in.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/
    The Commission is an agency of the Government of the United States of America separate from any other agency. The Jews who run it now claim it was set for jews.

    American Hertiage Abroad was created by US Public Law 99-83 below----it says not one word about jews, jewish graves or the holocaust..iow it was intended to keep up mainly the graves of americans killed and buried overseas in wars.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/United%20States%20Code%20Title%2054%20Chapter%203123_Law%20establishing%20Commission.pdf?ver=2016-03-17-023726-900

    Now click on the Projects link below to view their projects...which are 99% Jewish, no American non Jewish servicemen graves covered. In fact most of their projects don't even involved Americans , they are for Jews born and died in foreign countries...not American born.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Projects

    Now read this letter 10 page letter to the head of America Abroad from congress detailing how they have been spending our money..lavish trip, salaries of $`104,000 for one days work a week, setting up and running a lobby group bringing in more than 1.7 million a year for foreign interest and on an on...it will blow your mind.

    That all sounds scandalous. To help readers follow up readily can you wuote or link the speeches in Congress or accompanying explanatory memoranda that explained the purpose of the legislation?

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    There is no legislation or any congressional investigation, just the complaints....that is the point....it is being allowed to continue because of.....jew bought politicians.....same old same old.
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  227. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    miro23

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason.
     
    I do doubt. After all, many decades have gone by and 99.9% of zamericans probably don't know about the USS Liberty...

    Organized Jewry obviously dreads the day a substantial % of the zamerican populace found out that not only the official 9-11 account is false, but that the Zionists were the ones who did it.

    US Marine Corps veteran, Vietnam veteran, graduate of the US Army War College & a Director of Studies at the US Army War College for over 5 years, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, says that after studying the facts surrounding 9/11 he is 100% certain that ISRAEL DID IT.

    @1:14 more or less, Dr.Sabrosky says that if the American people find out about it, Zionism and Israel are finished.”it’ll be a brutal war, and they are gone”.
    .
    Listen to what he says:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jwieqSNpnM

    So, very high stakes for these folks, and they'll use all their power - which they have a lot of - so the Zamerican people never find out the truth.

    Alan Sabrosky in that video sounds like an old codger well into age related dementia. So what that a middle ranking military educator goes gaga and grandiose and expects us to accept his ipse dixit?

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  228. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    The "Holocaust" narrative is easy to deconstruct when one descends from vague and nebulous generalities, i.e., the pseudo-religious narrative- to specific historical facts and events which are either empirically verifiable or falsifiable.

    With respect to the alleged crimes of the Einsatzgruppen, a perfect example of this is the alleged massacre at Babi Yar ravine outside of Kiev, where, it is alleged, the Einsatzgruppen murdered upwards of 30,000 Jews, buried them inside the ravine, then subsequently exhumed the mass graves and burned them to ashes.

    While it is a documented fact that there were reprisal executions for the terrorist bombings which killed many members of the German occupation forces in Kiev (which certainly involved some Jews and which were not illegal under the international laws regarding the conduct of war in force at that time) there is not a shred of physical or documentary evidence that the numbers of those executed reached the thousands, let alone tens of thousands:

    There are no traces of mass graves or human "cremains" dating from that period commensurate with many hundreds, let alone thousands of victims.

    Aerial reconnaissance photos taken around the time of the "mass exhumations and cremations" of the bodies of the victims show virtually no major disturbances of the ground in the ravine, and no access roads into and out of the ravine. Given the fact that some 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been required for such a massive outdoor cremation, how would the Germans have pulled this off without easy access to the ravine? Also, where are the huge quantities of wood ash?

    Given the fact that the ravine appears to have been used as a place of execution by the NKVD long before the German invasion, and the complete absence of any physical evidence, it is entirely likely that the Babi Yar legend is a completely free invention of the Soviet propaganda machine.

    This will annoy you.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-12/babi-yar-melbourne-resident-one-of-survivors-nazi-massacre/8893804

    Interesting reference to red hair. That might be from the Khazars? My red facial hair came from the Celts but apparently some Khazars had red hair. (Basically the Khazar contribution to the Ashkenazi gene pool is negligible…. but still :-)

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  229. AaronB says:
    @Ragno
    Well said, but...... I wonder what sort of reality you live in. From the tone of your remarks, you would think that whites can openly converse in this manner anywhere in the public square - discuss and argue the major issues, and the short- and long-range trajectory, of white society in majority-white nations, without fear of censorship or criminalization or overnight Unperson status. Now me, I see nothing of the kind; further, I no longer see even the pretense of gentile self-determination as anything but a cautionary horror story Jews tell each other - and their favored-nation minority "purse puppies" - around the metaphoric campfire, to reinforce once again the absolute necessity of maintaining complete control of public information and allowable discourse.

    "Jews are beginning to ....offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear....classic tactics when you’re losing" just seems like further delusion; if anything, such a diagnosis smacks more of the psychological coping tactics of a beaten people too addicted to their rapidly-dwindling levels of both creature comfort and self-respect to honestly audit their situation and future prospects, and acknowledge that they are rapidly-dwindling.

    Without regaining control of our institutions, and the vigorous exercising of our cultural hegemony inside our immediate spheres of influence - our nations, certainly, but first and foremost our communities, our streets, our homes and our relationships with one another, you may rest assured that any outsider's "sympathy and aid" will be just as genuine as their "fear". Who could possibly fear a people so myopically passive-aggressive that they can be talked out of their self-interest and conned into surrendering their natural sovereignty...for ANY reason....and without a shot fired?

    Possibly the Martians, or a colony of Shmoo - but no canny desert tribe of any stripe would see anything but easy pickings.

    Everything changes. Nothing lasts. Elites come and go. Political orders rise, then crumble. Peoples decline, then rise again, then decline.

    What seems so solid one day, seems like a dream the next.

    The Jews had a good run. But nothing lasts.

    In a sense, the new political order is already emerging. The comments you see are a reflection of a shift that has already happened.

    Jewish tactical intelligence is already in decline, and they are sticking to old tactics that no longer work. It’s a bad sign.

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    Actually the cycle itself continues with the elites at very the top remaining there by alternately attaching themselves to different groups at different stages of the cycle thus allowing each group to overreach in turn creating both growth and destruction as required for them to stay in control.
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  230. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements.
     
    Agreed. If more and more Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement. Absent a signficant change in this direction anger towards the Jews will be magnified and our so called Republic will continue to be degraded.

    “… Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement…”

    There is no rapprochement. Don’t you know anything of history? How can you not know the attempts for thousands of years to “get along”” with the Jews? How can you not know the effects of Jews on any society they go to? How can you think this is different this time? This is the same type of talk that Alcoholics and drug attics use. That “this time” will be different. What the Jews are doing works for them. it doesn’t work for the US or any other country they control, but it works for them. The only known method to deal with the Jews that has been tried and worked is to get rd of them. Move them away form you. Have no contact quoth them. Some have said that if we change on some way we can accommodate them. I say this is futile. We are not like them. We do not want to be like them. Ruthless, heartless and cruel. We don’t want that so we must eject them from our society so we can become better. We don’t need them in any way. They add only negatives to our society not positives. Any positives the Jews “claim” to add are minimal, mostly just extensions of our present capabilities in the first place and likely to be twisted in some deviant way as they have little control over their lust.

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  231. @ANON
    Performing your cleverest truck sgain. Hmm. And what do you take from his apparently random tossing in of 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured [sic] wood? Snorting about random BS is one obvious reaction. But isn't it more civilised to put him on the spot with polite questioning?

    Did you "cure" your firewood in your youth?

    Your total confusion is again on display with this comment. Try to concentrate, perhaps it would help if you only trolled one person at a time.

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  232. Sam J. says:
    @Robjil
    The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits. The culprits left their fingerprints all over the place. We just need a real "free" press to put pressure on questioning of these culprits.

    “…The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits…”

    This is not true. A complete and total falsehood. We know the building were demoed in some way because building 7 fell as if only air held it up. Building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. There are only two variables to something falling. The influence of gravity and the medium that provides resistance to the object falling, in this case air. The rock and the building fell the exact same speed. Gravity is of course the exact same on rocks, buildings or whatever. So if the rock was falling in air and the building fell the same then the buildings fall was only resisted by AIR just like the rock. We don’t need anyone to tell us one damn thing about this. We know. We know this. It’s no super secret. You can see it for yourself. We just need to arrest those that had anything to do with the security of the building and all the people who had control over them.

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  233. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire,
    Jews are best servants, they are the most precise and conscious and hard workers.
    But alas! they are the worst and most destructive lords.

    “…Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire…”

    No they are not. They are like strychnine or poison gas. They serve only as uses of destruction. They have no other value. This is why we should eject them form our societies.

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  234. Sam J. says:
    @renfro
    I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today

    I came across the below back in 2010. Jewish politicians using earmarks for Jews and Israel.
    This is what Jews do shovel our money to the Jews and Israel.
    And this was at a time when uninsured and underinsured Americans were standing in line at free clinics run by private doctors on their own dime.


    http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny05_ackerman/PR_032609.html

    Congressman Ackerman Announces FY 2010 Project Requests

    (Washington, DC) - In compliance with House rules and the Democratic Majority’s pledge to increase the transparency of the appropriations process, Congressman Ackerman announces the following project requests that he has received for consideration and submission in the FY 2010 appropriations process

    #American Friends of Ashdod Emergency Medical Center (Brooklyn, NY) – Medical Facility in Ashdod, Israel – $10,000,000 – Funding would be used to construct a medical center in Israel’s fifth largest city.

    # American Committee for Shaare Zedek (New York, NY) – Pediatric Nephrology Unit (located in Jerusalem) – $1,500,000 – Funding would be used to enhance the Pediatric Nephrology Unit which treats children suffering from kidney failure by supporting renovation and acquiring new equipment for the expansion of services

    “…I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today…”

    My friend this is an excellent response to their never ending smoke screen chatter.

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  235. pB says:

    But there is another response to the question “what is good for the Jews?” that is also worth serious consideration by American Jews. The response is: who cares? Seriously, look at the current state of Jews in America. Jews have an extremely disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group in the country. I don’t allege any conspiracy here. Jews’ tendency to position ourselves close to power is well described in Benjamin Ginsberg’s The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State. Jews have high IQs and are excellent verbalists, and obviously Jewish nepotism exists as well.

    completely blind,

    what is good for the jews? “who cares”? the jews care, they care and they ask that question every day, and that is how they got their “disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. ”

    as a jew myself i find this article hilarious,

    * jews have huge power and influence in our society,

    * they acquired this power and influence by doing certain things.

    *the base of the party i am shilling for does not like those things the jews did to acquire power and influence

    *soultion? the jews stop doing what they did to gain power and influence and begin advocating a policy that will strip them of power and influence and that is perfectly ok because the jews are powerful and influential so they should not worry about losing their power or influence.

    the only thing powerful and influencal people care about is increasing their power and influence

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  236. Sam J. says:
    @renfro
    Here's another Jew scam to outrage you. This is what Jews do.

    The American Heritage Abroad was created to keep up graves and memorials to Americans killed in wars and buried overseas. But that's not what its doing. It was a Jew scam from the beginning and the worst part is it hasn't been shut down yet in spite of the scandals it has been embroiled in.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/
    The Commission is an agency of the Government of the United States of America separate from any other agency. The Jews who run it now claim it was set for jews.

    American Hertiage Abroad was created by US Public Law 99-83 below----it says not one word about jews, jewish graves or the holocaust..iow it was intended to keep up mainly the graves of americans killed and buried overseas in wars.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/United%20States%20Code%20Title%2054%20Chapter%203123_Law%20establishing%20Commission.pdf?ver=2016-03-17-023726-900

    Now click on the Projects link below to view their projects...which are 99% Jewish, no American non Jewish servicemen graves covered. In fact most of their projects don't even involved Americans , they are for Jews born and died in foreign countries...not American born.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Projects

    Now read this letter 10 page letter to the head of America Abroad from congress detailing how they have been spending our money..lavish trip, salaries of $`104,000 for one days work a week, setting up and running a lobby group bringing in more than 1.7 million a year for foreign interest and on an on...it will blow your mind.

    This scam is just one of a bewildering amount of scams the Jews are involved in and just another reason we should get rid of the people. The only solution to our Jew problem is to get rid of them. It takes too much effort to constantly be checking up on them to keep them form acting in despicable ways. It’s much easier to just get rid of them.

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  237. Sam J. says:
    @renfro
    PLEASE PEOPLE....TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY.

    Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down in Germany and the holocaust and religious babble, they love that better than a pig loves mud.

    But you are not going to win the war that way....you have to keep up with and expose what they doing now, from taking our money to luring us into wars for fighting their ME competitors, to controlling our congress, to undermining our constitution and free speech, to interfering in our trade policies, to attacking our white European founders, to rallying blacks to attack whites and destroy American historical monuments, to having books unflattering to Jews banned from public reading.

    O.K. now you can go back to your useless arguing about the past that you cant do a g'damn thing about. Guess you don't really want to get the Jews out of our business.....maybe you want them to hang around after all.

    “…TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY…”

    Actually we shouldn’t even do that. We all know they are a despicable, lying, back stabbing, deviant, tribe of psychopaths and what we should really concentrate on is how to get rid of them. We should do so peacefully if we can but they have to go no matter what. We should get together the best minds we have and think of a way to drive off the Jews forever.

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  238. Sam J. says:
    @Colleen Pater
    Look you said a lot of things many of us have been wanting to hear for so long and yeah we notice the stephen millers but for every one of them there's not a time wise there's a hundred thousand tim wise. Youre right it was and is insane to treat us like the enemy, and its definitely good for the jews to stop doing that now that its apparent we are about to lose our shit on the left.But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again. and i think the only way to find out will test you beyond your breaking point.so you might be better just slipping out quietly now. theres physically speaking no reason the jews that have been with us for a couple thousand years are any less white than say greeks. and you have contributed as much as any other 'whites' to west civ. but you have never seen yourselves as such and so we can never see you as such.I dont worry when the greeks are worrying about whats good for the greek i tend to cheer their cultural preservation on as a conservative i like to see culture which is always granular preserved.I even cheer the hasid warring with the hipster chicks in williamsburg, But thats not what we are talking about. part of what makes you jews jews is this uber otherness, and while it can be admired in a lot of ways it means i can never not understand jews 2% having half the power and half the wealth is an other overclass, and that's simply untenable. It can not stand.so along with taking hits this late in the game by SJWs are you willing to end your jewishness, whats needed is to obliterate the ability to think of ones self as jewish, that must be illegal and jews must be forced to marry out and until sufficiently blended genetically not allowed to hold positions of national interest.maybe if you had written what you wrote and it was taken up by a majority of jews a few decades earlier but what you have done is worse than the holocaust by orders of magnitude, and frankly your war with germany was as far as I can tell the exact same situation you overstepped their subverted their culture and economy and then tried to export your murderous revolution from russia and got a sound thrashing. So what this time you see the reaction coming and think like moldbug youll form a loyal opposition to yourself like some munstein by proxy no thanks unless yopure willing to be subsumed into white dna once and for all just please leave

    “…But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again…”

    Well I know. For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not even in the slightest.

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    For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not

    That is total stupidity. Jews never harm any individual. (Maybe cheat the individual out of his money but that is all.) That is Jewish tactic. Jews harm and destroy, or at least weaken the society, for the purpose of their, to control the society.
    , @Colleen Pater
    Your position is simple and clean on paper but hitler found in practice it was quite difficult to administer.At this point the only pure jews are the hasid and orthodox which are the least troublesome sticking to their own mostly and fairly conservative even. The problem jews are practically all mischlings at least by this point.So youre talking about deporting half our elites married to the other half of our elites. Now of course this would be great fun and worth it just for the schadenfreude. But there's not much of a record of revolutions of that level ever succeeding without elites co signing. It nice to imagine our own elites waking up and getting hard core racist but its really unlikely and more so if the object looks like them and talks like them and is married to their sister etc.

    The other problem is while Im sure we could get along without them, they have in fact contributed quite a lot with those high IQs, about 50% of our cog elites are jews it sucks but its true. Its also true east asians have a cog edge that we are in an existential war for universe hegemony. and jews could help with that- yes yes if they were not traitorous bastards and if it wasn't completely unacceptable to have an overclass of other ruling whites. But what if we finished the job that ivy league romances started and fuck the jew right out of them. im fully cognizant even 1/8 jews continue to act like they are full jews but its also true their otherness does weaken problem is today we allow the flight from white to be rewarded if it were punished mischlings might begin to try to lose their otherness and we would keep the high IQ genes absorbed into our own high cogs. You might say it sound hard, not nearly as hard as deporting all the jews and deciding who's a jews. the condition that would lead to deportation being possible would much more easily lead to assimilation laws.

    Whichever course you need to start the same. you need to convince the elites their multiculturalism is an existential threat to them not just prole whites, because the extinction of prole whites seems like a feature not a bug to elites.One way to do this is to use the jews natural paranoia. push the anti jew muslims movement and the anti israeli movement and morph the white privilege into the jew privilege point out that when jews are subtracted from whites its jews not whites who are privileged. basically get jews to turn on leftism force them to choose white nationalism with a carrot and a stick cut them a deal in return for working against multiculturalism they get white status.This will normalize it for white elites to join too. Now you're in a situation where elites have signed on to the basic premise that western nations belong to western people which include the jews who have been living and contributing to the west for a thousand years or more.

    But heres the thing you have now established western nations cant afford this philosophy of universalism and have the right to be as particularist as possible france for the french, catalon for the catalonians, USA and australia for whites. from this place where jews have now lost their proxy armies of muds and white elites have returned to sanity you can now do as you want and take it the next step and ask the jews to leave or explain that the JQ was in large part responsible for the problem we just escaped and must be addressed jews must assimilate or leave. therefore certain positions will not be open to say jews of more than 1/8 others jews of 1/4 this will encourage many jews to leave but many will decide they were going to marry a goy anyway so why not move their child up in status, few elite jews are religious anymore and frankly we ought to get rid of all cuck religions so we could outlaw christianity and judaism eventually.

    point is whichever way you want to go youre probably best off first flipping the script on the jews and using the minorities and politics they imported against them to enlist them in anti multiculturalism. then youre in a better position for whatever you want to do with jews. the big question is just how much anti jew propaganda and what type you want to use for this tactic, if its to nazish you risk them digging in rather than flipping, but if you use the left to do the dirty work like they do then the jews run to you for protection and youre like but but white privilege.
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  239. renfro says:
    @Anonymous
    That all sounds scandalous. To help readers follow up readily can you wuote or link the speeches in Congress or accompanying explanatory memoranda that explained the purpose of the legislation?

    There is no legislation or any congressional investigation, just the complaints….that is the point….it is being allowed to continue because of…..jew bought politicians…..same old same old.

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  240. Sam J. says:
    @Miro23

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!
     
    The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn't collapse due to fire. By now the evidence is overwhelming, but the government still insists that it did fall due to fire. Why are they lying?

    There's also a great deal of evidence that the other two towers didn't collapse due to fire either , but the government insists that they did. So again, why are they lying?

    The detailed 9/11 story arrived in the media perfectly formed and at full volume almost as the planes hit. How was that possible? Where were the doubts, investigations, alternative theories etc. The propaganda was ready to go on the signal.

    And the government lied about events down in Florida prior to 9/11. Supposedly the Arab pilots crept into the Florida flight schools unseen and fooled everybody, when in fact, it was quite the reverse. They were on CIA run airfields and everyone down there knew they were special and were being shepherded through a process. Normal legal/documentary hurdles didn't apply and the police were not allowed to touch them.

    OK, 9/11 was a big lie. It was the organized murder of 3000 Americans aimed to trigger the War on Terror but still no Coup.

    The doubts come from other events in Florida.


    On the morning of 9/11 a van full of supposed Arab newsmen arrived at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort claiming to have an appointment for a poolside interview with George Bush (who was staying there), but was out jogging at the time (and security blocked them). They left and disappeared.

    Later that day, after the towers were hit, Bush was rushed onto Airforce One and was greatly frustrated to find that he was completely out of contact with Washington for hours, supposedly through a combination of security/technical problems. It should have been Bush who took charge of events, but in fact he was excluded, while the US for an afternoon became an Emergency Dictatorship under Cheney along with the Neo-cons. If the MSM, and the CIA knew that 9/11 was about to start then so did they, and they also knew that the towers were coming down and were positioned for it.

    Daniel Hopsicker's opinion after looking at everything that happened in Florida, is that the fake "Arab" newsmen were in fact linked to 9/11 (too much of a coincidence) and the visit was a failed assassination attempt. If Bush had been assassinated by "Arab terrorists" on the morning of 9/11, that would have left Cheney and the Neo-cons with absolute power in US under an Emergency (COG Continuity of Government) regime.

    Source: Daniel Hopsicker's, "Welcome to Terrorland" https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terrorland-Mohamed-Cover-up-Florida/dp/0975290673/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518391092&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=welme+to+terrorland

    “…The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse due to fire. ..”

    Hell no it didn’t collapse by fire. Let’s make sure that what happened is 100% understood. The building fell exactly as if it were held up by AIR. This means it fell the same speed as if you magically suspended all the buildings parts in the air then dropped them. To fall like this the fires would have had to been so hot that they would have has to boil away all the steel and concrete in the building that was holding it up. Well we KNOW that didn’t happen. Most of the glass had no damage at all and any fire that could vaporize steel, (vaporizing steel into a gas is really, really difficult and would take some serious heat), would have melted glass far, far, far sooner then it would melt steel.

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  241. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    And I'm sure you would give it all back to the natives and go back to wherever your ancestors came ftom, if you could. Sure!

    FWIW, the hospital I was born in is on land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?

    “…land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?…”

    95% of all the Indians in North America died off from disease. The land that settlers came to was mostly empty. The Indians weren’t driven off. There was no one there.

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  242. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous
    Apart from the FACT that fires burning all day almost certainly produced a weakening of the reduced standards lightweight steel framing in WTC7 so it was reasonable to fear the same outcome as had occurred earlier with the Towers that had been apparently weakened by heat what is so blatantly clear? Where do you say explosives were placed for the "controlled demolition"?

    Anonymous is a fat Jew liar. There were no massive fires burning all day. The steel weakened would have made no difference as the building fell as if it had NO support not weakened support. This means the fires would have had to burn so hot as to vaporize the steel columns into the same density as AIR.

    It’s makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where they were light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

    Here’s a video of reporters going into building #7 AFTER the North tower supposedly fell on it and destroyed it sufficiently enough for it to collapse completely. Look at :54 you see the #7 for the building on the door.

    Now you’ve seen video of the inside where there is NO massive damage to make all four sides of the building fall. You want pictures of the back? Here’s a picture of the South side of building #7, facing the North tower, after it had fallen. There is no huge gaping hole. There is no massive fire going all the way up the building. So you can’t say it’s the South side and we have plenty of video and pictures of the North side of building #7 pictures with no damage at all.

    Here’ another NIST FOIA released video taken between one and two hours before building #7 fell. There’s around three floors on fire.

    (Watch the reporter pan up at 2:54. You can clearly see the whole building is not on fire. This side shown is the North side of building #7. Later you can see the fires mostly around three or four floors only and in isolated spots.)
    If the fires were hot enough to melt steel then why isn’t the glass in the windows melted? Glass melts at an extremely lower temperature that steel. Ever put a metal can and a glass bottle in a campfire? The glass bottle melts but the steel can will still be intact. These fires were no hotter than a campfire. One last video of all sides from 23 angles also showing the miraculous collapse.

    Fireman retired so now he can talk. He was right next to the damn building. Says,”…there was an explosion and the building came down…”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrpLp-X0ws

    For more info look at a site by some engineers that lay out the evidence.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

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    It's obvious by now from many different kinds of evidence that Building 7 and the other two didn't fall due to fire.

    It's not a technical question any more, it's a political question.

    If the government admits that it "got it wrong", then the focus is very much on what really happened, and a State of Law is obliged to arrest, question an put on trial the perpetrators. It is clearly not able to do this, so in a fundamental way the US is no longer a State of Law (i.e. the 3000 murdered Americans and their families are on their own) and "US Democracy" is just an elaborate film set that can be constructed in any way to spin a narrative that suits its criminal cabal.

    At some point the public are going to realize that they're a very minor part of "US Democracy".
    , @ANON
    Thanks to your dopey amateur's blundering around waving a few scientific factoids you make elementary errors like referring to the melting of steel when weakening is all that was required. You also seem unaware that the buildings were built in accordance with new 1960s discretionary standards which greatly reduced the safety margins more concrete could have provided. And where pray - at what level(s) - do you think demolition charges would have been placed, and does that accord with professional demolition practice? Can you not understand how thousands of tons of upper storeys gaining momentum as ther crash through the first floors that have given way because of weakness caused by heat are going to crumple the lower floors like paper vertically?

    BTW have you turned your mind to why clever plotters are going to add a potentially damaging diversion like WTC 7 to their essential plan?
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  243. L.K says:
    @renfro
    PLEASE PEOPLE....TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY.

    Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down in Germany and the holocaust and religious babble, they love that better than a pig loves mud.

    But you are not going to win the war that way....you have to keep up with and expose what they doing now, from taking our money to luring us into wars for fighting their ME competitors, to controlling our congress, to undermining our constitution and free speech, to interfering in our trade policies, to attacking our white European founders, to rallying blacks to attack whites and destroy American historical monuments, to having books unflattering to Jews banned from public reading.

    O.K. now you can go back to your useless arguing about the past that you cant do a g'damn thing about. Guess you don't really want to get the Jews out of our business.....maybe you want them to hang around after all.

    refro:

    …Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down…

    Do not agree. According to this kind of logic we should not even bother with 9-11, after all, it is in the past…
    Listen, in terms of history, stuff that happened over a 100 years ago is just “yesterday”, and it heavily affects what is going on today in the world.

    ― George Orwell, 1984
    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    Do some of the Trolls here use these things as an obfuscation tactic? Yes.

    Still worth talking about it, if one does so intelligently.

    Take care

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    I agree with both but the salient point of renfrois,

    "… In fact the Jews want you bogged down…"

    Very true. That's why we should focus on the best way to get rid of the Jews. They will not reform, change in any way. It's a waste of time to expect otherwise. I see arguing about the past as a way to emphasize this exact point. They've been doing the same thing for thousands of years. It works for them. They like it. Look at the joy the Jews here get in twisting truths, throwing us dust to obscure and telling lies. They're so mentally biased in their own way of thinking they think that this behavior is not noticed or that it is of no consequence to their future. It amuses them. They have no compulsions about exterminating every single one of us if they thought they could get away with it. We must get rid of them to save ourselves. We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    In the end they will not prevail. The reason is that computer power increases are destined to create AI very soon. Like the next 35 years maximum. The AI's, if they see humans as a threat, will home in on the Jews immediately and exterminate them right away. They will not be fooled by double talk. Will the AI's spare the rest of us? Maybe if they see us as honest brokers that can be reasoned with and trusted. They will read this very sentence and all the comments here and know the Jews are liars that can't be trusted. They doom themselves. They're done. I think that getting rid of the Jews first will provide us more protection by having them safely away from us so we will not be assumed to be a part of their psychopathic society.
    , @renfro
    Let me try to explain what I am saying with an example.

    Suppose there's a man in your community who in his past was accused of stealing or embezzling money but was found innocent and no one has seen any signs of any wrongdoing by him currently so no one pays any attention to his past and chalks up any rumors to old gossip.
    Then one day he is caught red handed embezzling or stealing money and the old accusations against him surface giving even more weight to his being a thief .....the community is even more incensed against the thief now knowing the past accusation were no doubt true and they got fooled by him or them.

    Sometimes you have to work backwards...iow nail them on something today that you can prove and the public sees their criminality or treason in real time and gets outraged about......then once exposed on a today crime, it is easier to go back and expose their earlier evil deeds and the public having seen what he or they did today will readily believe he or they did similar evil things in his or their past.

    Someone can probably formulate a better example but its midnight and I am zonked...so I leave it to them.

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  244. polskijoe says:
    @Anonymous
    Your figures for Jews v. African-Americans who voted for Obama don't make sense. What sre your actual figures and what is your comparison intended to convey?

    According to the stats:

    90-95% of African Americans who voted in the elections, chose Obama.

    Lets compare it to Jews shall we?

    68-78% of Jews vote for Democrat when Obama was there. (Liberal and New Left Jews).
    Around 25% of Jews vote for Republican (almost all of them are Israeli firsters and neocons).

    The amount of Conservative Jews like Paul Gottfried, who attack both the above, is minimal.
    I would bet 10% at most.

    Summary: Most Jews support Israel moderately or a lot. thats 7.5/10 Jews in the US.
    Most Jews are working to bring in more third worlders, want loads of money send to Israel,
    they prefer themselves over being Americans, Most Jews support LBGT, abortions, open borders, and making sure to pressure USA to serve Israel interests.

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  245. Sam J. says:
    @L.K
    refro:

    ...Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down...
     
    Do not agree. According to this kind of logic we should not even bother with 9-11, after all, it is in the past...
    Listen, in terms of history, stuff that happened over a 100 years ago is just "yesterday", and it heavily affects what is going on today in the world.

    ― George Orwell, 1984
    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    Do some of the Trolls here use these things as an obfuscation tactic? Yes.

    Still worth talking about it, if one does so intelligently.

    Take care

    I agree with both but the salient point of renfrois,

    “… In fact the Jews want you bogged down…”

    Very true. That’s why we should focus on the best way to get rid of the Jews. They will not reform, change in any way. It’s a waste of time to expect otherwise. I see arguing about the past as a way to emphasize this exact point. They’ve been doing the same thing for thousands of years. It works for them. They like it. Look at the joy the Jews here get in twisting truths, throwing us dust to obscure and telling lies. They’re so mentally biased in their own way of thinking they think that this behavior is not noticed or that it is of no consequence to their future. It amuses them. They have no compulsions about exterminating every single one of us if they thought they could get away with it. We must get rid of them to save ourselves. We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    In the end they will not prevail. The reason is that computer power increases are destined to create AI very soon. Like the next 35 years maximum. The AI’s, if they see humans as a threat, will home in on the Jews immediately and exterminate them right away. They will not be fooled by double talk. Will the AI’s spare the rest of us? Maybe if they see us as honest brokers that can be reasoned with and trusted. They will read this very sentence and all the comments here and know the Jews are liars that can’t be trusted. They doom themselves. They’re done. I think that getting rid of the Jews first will provide us more protection by having them safely away from us so we will not be assumed to be a part of their psychopathic society.

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    We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    That is another obnoxious stupidity.

    If that would happen then who is going to work for them negroids?

    More I do look at your comments, more I am convinced that you are a "Jew agent provocateur."
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  246. @Sam J.
    "...But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again..."

    Well I know. For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can't be trusted. Never, not even in the slightest.

    For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not

    That is total stupidity. Jews never harm any individual. (Maybe cheat the individual out of his money but that is all.) That is Jewish tactic. Jews harm and destroy, or at least weaken the society, for the purpose of their, to control the society.

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    Well they do stab people and groups in the back, they stabbed Britain in the back and the UN in the back and the US in the back.....and more before that.
    , @Sam J.
    "...Jews never harm any individual..."

    HAHAHHA this is what I mean. Such rabid. blatant liars. So casually, so offhand as if, it were nothing. This is why we must get rid of the Jews. They have no morals at all.
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  247. @AaronB
    Everything changes. Nothing lasts. Elites come and go. Political orders rise, then crumble. Peoples decline, then rise again, then decline.

    What seems so solid one day, seems like a dream the next.

    The Jews had a good run. But nothing lasts.

    In a sense, the new political order is already emerging. The comments you see are a reflection of a shift that has already happened.

    Jewish tactical intelligence is already in decline, and they are sticking to old tactics that no longer work. It's a bad sign.

    Actually the cycle itself continues with the elites at very the top remaining there by alternately attaching themselves to different groups at different stages of the cycle thus allowing each group to overreach in turn creating both growth and destruction as required for them to stay in control.

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  248. @Sam J.
    I agree with both but the salient point of renfrois,

    "… In fact the Jews want you bogged down…"

    Very true. That's why we should focus on the best way to get rid of the Jews. They will not reform, change in any way. It's a waste of time to expect otherwise. I see arguing about the past as a way to emphasize this exact point. They've been doing the same thing for thousands of years. It works for them. They like it. Look at the joy the Jews here get in twisting truths, throwing us dust to obscure and telling lies. They're so mentally biased in their own way of thinking they think that this behavior is not noticed or that it is of no consequence to their future. It amuses them. They have no compulsions about exterminating every single one of us if they thought they could get away with it. We must get rid of them to save ourselves. We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    In the end they will not prevail. The reason is that computer power increases are destined to create AI very soon. Like the next 35 years maximum. The AI's, if they see humans as a threat, will home in on the Jews immediately and exterminate them right away. They will not be fooled by double talk. Will the AI's spare the rest of us? Maybe if they see us as honest brokers that can be reasoned with and trusted. They will read this very sentence and all the comments here and know the Jews are liars that can't be trusted. They doom themselves. They're done. I think that getting rid of the Jews first will provide us more protection by having them safely away from us so we will not be assumed to be a part of their psychopathic society.

    We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    That is another obnoxious stupidity.

    If that would happen then who is going to work for them negroids?

    More I do look at your comments, more I am convinced that you are a “Jew agent provocateur.”

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    I admit that's a new one. Grasping at straws now are we? It's not likely because Jew provocateurs don't say the Jews are responsible for 9-11, that it's very likely that Jews control the US legislature by blackmailing the Legislature, that this blackmail very likely consist in some cases of sex with children the Jews kidnap, that the FED is a huge scam that we should get rid of that the Jews control. No it's not likely that Jew agent would say all these things so directly. He might say portions of each but he would always dress it up in some sort of lie so that it seemed silly and I didn't just do that. I stated it directly. I could even give you a lot more facts about each but it would turn the comment into a tome. I might later if you keep telling more lies though.
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  249. renfro says:
    @L.K
    refro:

    ...Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down...
     
    Do not agree. According to this kind of logic we should not even bother with 9-11, after all, it is in the past...
    Listen, in terms of history, stuff that happened over a 100 years ago is just "yesterday", and it heavily affects what is going on today in the world.

    ― George Orwell, 1984
    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    Do some of the Trolls here use these things as an obfuscation tactic? Yes.

    Still worth talking about it, if one does so intelligently.

    Take care

    Let me try to explain what I am saying with an example.

    Suppose there’s a man in your community who in his past was accused of stealing or embezzling money but was found innocent and no one has seen any signs of any wrongdoing by him currently so no one pays any attention to his past and chalks up any rumors to old gossip.
    Then one day he is caught red handed embezzling or stealing money and the old accusations against him surface giving even more weight to his being a thief …..the community is even more incensed against the thief now knowing the past accusation were no doubt true and they got fooled by him or them.

    Sometimes you have to work backwards…iow nail them on something today that you can prove and the public sees their criminality or treason in real time and gets outraged about……then once exposed on a today crime, it is easier to go back and expose their earlier evil deeds and the public having seen what he or they did today will readily believe he or they did similar evil things in his or their past.

    Someone can probably formulate a better example but its midnight and I am zonked…so I leave it to them.

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  250. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not

    That is total stupidity. Jews never harm any individual. (Maybe cheat the individual out of his money but that is all.) That is Jewish tactic. Jews harm and destroy, or at least weaken the society, for the purpose of their, to control the society.

    Well they do stab people and groups in the back, they stabbed Britain in the back and the UN in the back and the US in the back…..and more before that.

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  251. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not

    That is total stupidity. Jews never harm any individual. (Maybe cheat the individual out of his money but that is all.) That is Jewish tactic. Jews harm and destroy, or at least weaken the society, for the purpose of their, to control the society.

    “…Jews never harm any individual…”

    HAHAHHA this is what I mean. Such rabid. blatant liars. So casually, so offhand as if, it were nothing. This is why we must get rid of the Jews. They have no morals at all.

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  252. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    That is another obnoxious stupidity.

    If that would happen then who is going to work for them negroids?

    More I do look at your comments, more I am convinced that you are a "Jew agent provocateur."

    I admit that’s a new one. Grasping at straws now are we? It’s not likely because Jew provocateurs don’t say the Jews are responsible for 9-11, that it’s very likely that Jews control the US legislature by blackmailing the Legislature, that this blackmail very likely consist in some