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Young right-leaning Jews don’t have many Jewish figures to look up to. Illustrious elder scholar and “alt right godfather” Paul Gottfried. Taki columnist and revisionist David Cole Stein. Brilliant neoreactionary thinker and half-Jew Curtis Yarvin (Mencius Moldbug).

But thankfully we now have Stephen Miller, the 32-year old Trump advisor and immigration hard-liner recently blamed by Democratic senators for scuttling their desired amnesty deal for illegal immigrants. Transparently, the Dems are trying to spoil Trump’s relationship with Miller, as they did with Bannon, by insinuating that Miller is pulling Trump’s strings. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man. But Miller is a crucially important figure in the Trump administration and his influence is, from what I can tell, entirely positive for the interest of Americans concerned with mass immigration and the very tangible threat of Europeans and people of European descent becoming minorities in their own countries.

Jews, and Americans overall, need more Stephen Millers. Brash, unafraid, quick-witted, verbally formidable, and unabashedly “America First,” Miller is a powerful spokesman for economic nationalist positions, anti-globalism, and for preserving this country’s original culture and people against the Democratic scheme to flood it with illegal and legal immigrants whose main gift to America will be their reliable Democratic votes in every future election. Miller is roundly despised by the establishment for his positions and rhetoric. Nancy Pelosi has called Miller a “White supremacist,” while others on the left have compared him to Joseph Goebbels. He’s the only Jew I can think of offhand that the mainstream media actively encourages the country to hate.

But we Jews should be honest: for every mensch like Miller, we have shmucks like Tim Wise, Noel Ignativ, Rob Reiner, Charles Schumer, and thousands of other high-profile Jews who seem to hate or fear White Christian Americans and seek to hasten their demise as the ethnic majority of this country. Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC — powerful well-funded groups who conduct witch hunts against anyone who dares speak out against multiculturalism, open-borders, globalist doctrine, or who dares to criticize Jews. Jewish political influence in the US is still overwhelmingly negative, despite the great work of a few good Jews.

As an American (first) and Jew (second) who supports Trump and Trumpism, the European New Right, and anyone concerned with the long-term impacts of mass immigration, I want to see more Jews, particularly younger, Generation Z Jews move to our ideological side. I have tried to explore my own motivations for this. Why do I find myself so far to the Right on the issue of immigration and of protecting European cultures and peoples? Why do I hope other Jews follow me on this ideological journey? And there is growing indication they are.

First of all, it has nothing to do with being “self-hating”, a common but largely asinine Jewish slur used against Jews who step out of line. I neither hate myself or Jews collectively. Like many non-Jewish critics of Jews, I just want Jews to stop attacking Europeans and their descendants in their former colonies by pushing destructive ideologies and policies.

Secondly, I agree with the major criticism of Jews and certainly of Jewish activists: that they seek to do what they think is good for Jews, while hiding their ethnocentrism by pretending their interests are universalist. Self-interest is often disguised as “tikun olam,” bringing light to the world.

Most importantly, accepting some of the recent critique of the JQ, or the Jewish role in the West’s current situation — without thinking the situation is simple, monocausal, or part of a grand conspiracy, I view it as important to think about what Jews can do positively in the current year.

It seems clear that ethnic Jewish activists in the 20th century had a conscious or subconscious fear of European Christians maintaining their ethnic or cultural identities, and this manifested itself in the various movements MacDonald brilliantly analyzes in the Culture of Critique: the anthropology of race, psychoanalysis, communism, the Frankfort School and Cultural Marxism. When Jewish activists pushed through immigration reform in the US, the effects were absolutely transformative. Jews largely achieved their goals, or maybe even surpassed them. Now, more than 50 years later, we can re-examine the question: was this actually good for the Jews?

To me the answer to this question is a resounding NO. To look at just one simple factor: the people pouring into the US in recent years are no more Jew-friendly then the White Americans who made up almost 90% of the county in 1960 were. In fact, they are likely to be considerably less Jew friendly. Mexicans have no special relationship with Jews or with Israel. Neither do Somalis, or Syrians, or Afghans, or MS-13. Identity-politics obsessed leftist college activists have already made it quite clear that Jews who side against them are to be viewed as White s — their Jewishness will not protect them. This trend will continue, and Jews will become Whites in the eyes of the many people who hate Whites. However different things may have looked to our parents’ or grandparents’ generation, there is no tangible benefit today to ordinary American Jews today from the importation of quarter of Mexico’s population, or to ordinary French Jews from a million new Muslims. To think otherwise is to deny reality.

A main motivation for Jewish activism on immigration and other related issues was Jewish fear of being a major outgroup in American society. Perhaps these fears may have seemed real in the wake of the Second World War, or perhaps even then they were delusional. Today, they seem absurd. Maybe it is a generational thing, or maybe my Jewish identification is too weak, or maybe it was the context I grew up in; but I just can’t understand American Jews having feelings of fear or hostility towards White Christian Americans in general. I grew up around White Christians; work with them; live amongst them; and count many as friends, neighbors, colleagues or teachers. Jewish neurosis or not, a generalized Jewish fear of American Whites is, in my view, insane. Granted, things could change in the future if we reach such a desperate state that American Whites begin to focus on some of the negative influence Jews have had in changing their society, and collectively determine to do something about it. But flooding the country with immigrants doesn’t lessen the possibility that will happen. Quite the opposite, it increases it.

Given that, what is really best for the Jews? As American Whites slowly begin to wake up to the reality of their own ethnic interests, what kind of Jews do we want as our representatives in the public sphere: Stephen Miller or Charles Schumer?

From my point of view, what is “best for the Jews” is to realize that while Jewish elites have been pushing a corrosive and destructive agenda for 50 years or more, the rest of us are under no obligation to support it. Being Jewish doesn’t mean one has to be a leftist or multiculturalist booster, or work to disenfranchise White majorities in traditionally White countries. Stephen Miller is proof of that.

But there is another response to the question “what is good for the Jews?” that is also worth serious consideration by American Jews. The response is: who cares? Seriously, look at the current state of Jews in America. Jews have an extremely disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group in the country. I don’t allege any conspiracy here. Jews’ tendency to position ourselves close to power is well described in Benjamin Ginsberg’s The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State. Jews have high IQs and are excellent verbalists, and obviously Jewish nepotism exists as well. While I abhor the contemporary politicized notion of “privilege” that minority groups use to cover up their lack of rational argument, it would be dishonest to not admit that if there is a privileged ethnic group in the US today, that group is not Whites as a whole, but Jews.

It is impossible to look at the situation objectively and not see that generally things have been going very well for American Jews, and certainly for Jewish elites, for some time. There is thus no reason to spend time and energy thinking about what is good for the Jews. Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.

There are abundant reasons however to worry about the welfare of Europeans and people of European descent. The migration crisis in Europe and the reality of looming major demographic increases in Africa and the Middle East that could drive much larger waves of migrants are rapidly creating a potential future in which entire peoples could become minorities in their own countries. In the US, demographic changes due to migration and considerably higher fertility rates among immigrants will alter the country permanently unless drastic changes to immigration policies are made. Jews need to focus our “tikun olam” on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe, and the neo-Europes. In Stephen Miller we see a Jew who seems to understand what needs to be done. There is no reason other American Jews can’t follow his lead.

In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Randal says:

    Given that, what is really best for the Jews?

    Well one thing that would be nice would be more organised and high profile jewish rejection of the pursuit by so many of their well-funded representatives of anti-free speech laws and prosecutions.

    The initially private prosecution of Alison Chabloz by jewish identity lobby organisations for merely posting a song to the internet represented a new low, and jewish opposition to this crime against liberty committed in their name has been disorganised and muted. And jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting “holocaust denial” and “antiracist” speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream jewish organisations.

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let’s see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for “holocaust denial” laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don’t like.

  2. Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

  3. 36 ulster says:

    Bravo! Nailed it!!

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
  4. Unlike most real Jews, ‘Marcus Alethia’ can’t spell (Ignatiev) and considers Tim Wise an example of American Jewry. (Wise is one quarter Jewish, all on his father’s side, is anti-Zionist, and is married to a Gentile). He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return, but wouldn’t go there.

    ‘Yes, we Jews have Miller, but we also have the ADL and the SPLC ‘. Evidently he also believes that Morris Dees is Jewish too.

    The word ‘aletheia’ by the way was mostly used in modern times by Heidegger, another giveaway that ‘Alethia’ isn’t Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

    • Replies: @Issac
    , @Karl
    , @Mokiki
  5. Well this is a breath of fresh air.

    Not only do we need more Stephen Millers, we need more Marcus Alethias.

    Excellent article.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  6. AaronB says:

    Europeans don’t really need Jews to help them, they just need them to step aside while they fix the cultural mistakes that got them into trouble.

    It was like kicking a man while he’s down, and it’s good that it will stop.

    However, what Jews do in the end is irrelevant. Whites need to fix their own culture. And there are clear signs that this is happening, which is why Jews are starting to write sycophantic articles like this.

    Let’s be honest. Some Jews are beginning to realize that whites are waking up, and so of course are now trying to offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear. It’s classic tactics when you’re losing.

    Articles like this are indications of Jewish fear, nothing more. This article is also tellingly saturated with Jewish arrogance, as if they’re the decisive factor. In reality, it’s a desperate bid to avoid being sidelined.

    Let’s be further honest. No Jew who hasn’t repudiated his identity can really act for any interests other than Jewish, whatever he tells himself. That’s what it means to identify as a Jew. Only a Jew who repudiates his identity can, and even then there are suspicions.

    Whites will have to act like Israel. In Israel, non-jews can sometimes attain high positions, but in limited numbers, and not the highest (prime minister or mossad chief, for instance, are off the table).

    Whites would be fools who learn nothing from history if they now accept Jewish “help”. How many times whites can be fooled will soon be seen. In other words, if whites are truly revitalized or not, will soon be seen.

    The new white dispensation can accommodate Jews in a limited fashion, as extremely junior partners in small numbers, of proven loyalty, but will have to take measures to exclude Jews from public and economic life in any prominent capacity, much as Israel does to non-Jews.

    We should emphatically NOT wish for more Jewish figures like Miller. That he is, now, necessary at all is because this is a transitional situation.

    Whites – don’t be idiots yet again. But I don’t think you will.

    • Agree: CanSpeccy
    • Replies: @Ragno
  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

    Jews came close to being wiped out by Europeans 75 years ago. Jews are smart enough to know that whatever material successes they might have had don’t make up for almost being wiped out like that.

  8. What is important for Jews?
    There is no less simple question. Important fact what count is to be on the winning side.
    Regardless if Whites will be minority, If the whites really will get angry than nothing will stop them.
    The rainbow coalition will be wiped out in no time, and if the Jews will be with Rainbow coalition they will be wiped out also,
    Well you say that cannot happen in US democracy.
    Well I would say, I WOULD NOT BET ON IT.

  9. AaronB says:

    BTW, this a real time example of how Jews have survived so well down the centuries.

    The tide is now shifting and some Jews are cautiously feeling out ways to align themselves with the emerging power configurations.

    You are witnessing in real time things that have been discussed here only in theory. It’s pretty cool.

    Don’t fall for it. Don’t buy it. Don’t be eternal fools.

    As human beings, not as Jews, Jews should be accommodated – but cautiously, from a distance, in a controlled manner, on your terms.

    Most Jews – who identify as Jews rather than simple humans – should probably go to Israel and not try and “help” whites.

    Self-identified Jews who choose to stay should act with honesty and integrity and recuse themselves from prominent roles in public life -
    knowing full well their Jewish affiliation cannot allow them to be disinterested.

    Jews who are willing to be absorbed in the human race may be cautiously accommodated, perhaps.

    But no large scale Jewish “help” can be desired or accepted. And

    • Replies: @Leisure Larry
  10. Jason Liu says:

    The American right is convinced that there are no real right-wing Jews, only pretenders, neo-cons, entryists, etc. This has not been my experience. There are Jews like the above, but there are also real right-wing Jews, and not just in the Orthodox community.

    Jews are not extremely left wing if you adjust for their social conditions (urban, relatively wealthy, college educated, SWPL culture), especially not the men. Leftism among Jews seems to skew far more towards their women, a gender disparity greater than in any other group. People like Stephen Miller are more common than you think, especially in private.

    The right tends to mistake criticism for opposition, and Jews (of all political leanings) love to criticize. Sometimes they’re trying to verbally bring down an enemy, but sometimes they’re just neurotic about the flaws on their side. They’re often right. And they tend to think of practical strategies and nuanced analyses while the goy right spends their time complaining about X group and the latest media outrage.

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

  11. Wally says:
    @Randal

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An obvious admission that the ‘holocaust’ storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny. https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    Only lies need to be shielded from debate, truth welcomes it.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  12. Yah, just a bit of mixin’ and matchin’, soon the Jew and the Goy be one. This be mixed into an over/under parlay bet with a N & S Korea snuggle up, American woman lay down law for her man, and lion lay down with the lamb. Good luck.

  13. SnakeEyes says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Thanks for that contribution, lunatic.

    Interesting article. Doubtful that these ideas will catch on.

  14. I fear that THE jews does not exist.
    There are huge differences of opinion between jews, as one could read in the Sephardic Newletter by rabbi David Shasha.
    This internet publication I cannot find any more, but there is a similar publication by various groups of non asjkenazi jews.

    THE split in jews as a group seems to be between asjkenazi jews and non asjkenazi jews.
    Is it possible that Asian genes control the behaviour of asjkanazi jews ?

    I see the jewish situation as as three stage rocket, a small group of jews, among them the neocons, frighten their fellow jews, in their effort to control the world, PNAC by AEI, then nearly all jews cooperate in more or less controlling the USA for attaining their goals.
    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.

    Is it fear that motivates them to try to control the whole world, or just lust for power ?
    And in how far, if fear drives them, is the continuing holocaust propaganda the basis for their fear ?

    The best thing for jews, in my opinion, is to disappear completely through assimilation.
    This also, in my opinion, is the best thing for the world.
    ‘Jews. The essence and character of a people’, Arthur Herzberg and Aron Hirt-Manheimer, HarperSanFrancisco, 1998
    asserts, alas without specifying any source, that just 87% of those who could have been or remained jews chose to do so.
    If this is true, then a 13% more would solve the problem.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Obviously the intelligence services knew about it and could have alerted America, but they saw a better % in letting it happen. However, this does not mean they planned or executed it, which is patently ridiculous and btw–nice way to derail the thread right out of the gate.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @nsa
    , @plonialmoni
  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

    Very noble, and laudable even, but hasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of ever happening. The tribal impulse is overpowering, even when it’s suicidal.

    America was supposed to be the Grand Experiment in E Pluribus Unum, leaving tribalism behind in the Old World, but certain tribes had other ideas.

  17. renfro says:

    This article would be more appropriate published in the Jewish Forward ‘if’ the authors intent is to persuade Jews to join the Trump right on immigration.

    Digging into Steve Miller for 45 minutes turns up his main immigration issue during and since his school days was Muslims.

    As an American (first) and Jew (second)

    My impression is the author has that backwards……as his concern clearly is what he considers best for the Jews…he just disagrees with the left wing Jews on what is best. The lefty Jews think their protection lies in more minorities in the US. The right wing Jews fear the new minorities who don’t have any affinity for Jews, can’t be holocaust guilt tripped on Israel and will be a voting block who will eventually recoil at the billions spent on Israel.

    The bottom line is we don’t need to align with the right wing Jews on immigration, we can handle that ourselves. Our US interest and the Jews interest in the US are not the same in the long term, beyond immigration, and its not to our benefit to make the republicans any more Jew centric than they already are or encourage more Jewish influence in the Trump adm and he’s already up to his gills in Jews. Beyond immigration we have to consider the war Israel is continuing in Syria and cooking up in Lebanon. We don’t want Trump giving the Jews another ME war against their rivals on the US dime as a quid pro quo for any Jews immigration assistance.

    If we want an America for Americans it doesn’t include Jewish input or influence to put it bluntly …they have forfeited their right to have a say in what and who America should be because they have done way too much damage to America already.

  18. The authors “Jewish fear” is an understatement. The story fails to explain the subtle source and nefarious purpose behind “fear and guilt” as promoted by Zionism. Is there a subtle well planned policy to take the oil in the middle east from the Arabs behind it all? IS population control dominance, integration and assimilation promoted to coordinate and globally connect, establish and enlist local, regional and national Jewish Organizations to answer the 1897 banker-backed Zionist Organization [1st Zionist Congress in Switzerland] call for settlers to invade the Arab lands; to establish a Jewish Homeland, in order to separate the oil rich lands from the Arabs?
    Global history of Jewish encroachments on the societies Jews become part of, shows that nearly everywhere Jewish presence produced discrimination against Jews ( a universal fact it seems?). Globally: everywhere the Jewish interest appeared; Jews would soon end up dominate in the import/exports, the governments, the banks and the businesses. Especially this was true in Christian places like Spain, Portugal, Poland, Romania, Russia where Jews used their global contacts, banking, and support systems to place “their kind” in highest places within universities, military, government, legal, banking and business. The more Jewish interest in these countries, the more their take over impact.
    Everywhere a follower of Zionism went, he or she was certain to find Jewish organizational support to help the Jewish interest to take advantage of local opportunities if and when such opportunity developed. The message in Zionism is “IF A JEW, fear for yourself and for all Jews, or if sympathetic to, or feeling guilty over the oppression of Jews, then respond to the psychology (propaganda) answer the global call, contribute to the effort and join the settlers and become a part of establishing a Jewish Homeland ( in the midst of the oil rich lands owned by the Arabs). What was never said, was that the new Jewish Homeland would be located in the middle of the oil fields of the middle east then owned by the Arabs. Zionism used fear and historical oppression to coordinate, control and direct the Jewish populations, and it used the guilt of millions of fair minded people to help the Zionist take the oil from the Arabs of the middle east.
    Zionism organized propaganda, to promote the so called Jewish Oppression as a justification for the Jewish homeland; but its purpose was to bring forth the population, military force, and laws that could be used by the settlers and their government to force the Arabs out of their oil rich lands.
    The Jewish invaders (needed a nation state, Israel, because they needed a legitimate military and a way to make the laws that suit the purpose) which seems to have been to force the Arabs out of their oil rich lands. unfortunately many in the world fell for it.. and the whole world is paying for it now.

    In response to the comment “Jewish organisations make a lot more noise about supporting “holocaust denial” and “antiracist” speechcrime laws than anything heard in opposition to them from any mainstream Jewish organisations. ” I say it is essential to the purpose of Zionism that all efforts of any kind that might expose the Jewish hogwash be suppressed. My point is, Jews and the people of the world alike, have been hoodwinked: the Jewish homeland is about oil. The Jewish people are welcome just the same as anyone else, but those who are members or adherents to banker backed, corporate Zionism are not welcome at all.

  19. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Is Miller truly putting America first, or running interference for his Kosher Mob allies who are concerned that a large influx of immigrants won’t show the greatest con job of the 20th Century, the Holocaust, the reverence Jews demand of everyone in not only the USA, but the world?

    The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography: Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy By Stephen Steinlight on October 1, 2001

    In an America in which people of color form the plurality, as has already happened in California, most with little or no historical experience with or knowledge of Jews, will Jewish sensitivities continue to enjoy extraordinarily high levels of deference and will Jewish interests continue to receive special protection? Does it matter that the majority non-European immigrants have no historical experience of the Holocaust or knowledge of the persecution of Jews over the ages and see Jews only as the most privileged and powerful of white Americans?

    https://cis.org/Jewish-Stake-Americas-Changing-Demography

    Until Israel comes completely clean on their role on masterminding the 9/11 False Flag, I have to be leery of any proposals from their MSM and government placed hasbara border guards.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

    • Agree: L.K, Druid
  20. sarz says:

    There was a character in the British sixties revue Beyond the Fringe, who declared to general merriment, “I may be a Jew, but I’m not Jewish!”

    Some years ago, I came across the videos of – to me – an obvious New York Jew by the name of Morris or Mo living in London who was as much an antisemite as me. Meaning Holocaust denier and somone who can readily see the truth of “The Jews are our sorrow.”

    Here at last was someone I could share my secret with, something I considered it a matter of honour to keep to myself while bearing the slings and arrows of my outrageous antisemitism. In his Yahoo chat section one day, after sharing with him some of the reasons for thinking the Rockefellers are crypto-Jews I also averred that I was a Jew by osmosis.

    Next I knew, he had banned me from his channel. (Only later did I learn that he rejects his Jewish identity.) So. I can frankly say, not only am I a confirmed and dyed-in-the-wool antisemite, I have also suffered antisemitism – from a self-hating Jew. I may not be a Jew, but I admit I am, hitherto secretly, and among other identities I take seriously, Jewish.

    What sort of Jewish might that be? I call it normative Jewishness. It is a mainly secular ethical, intellectual and cultural tradition that makes demands almost impossible to meet. But so what? So does Christianity. Normative Jewishness is absolutist on truth and on common decency.

    The demand for absolute truth is hardly exclusively to be found in a strain of Jewishness. But that happens to be the cultural roots of my own case. A foreign student in America, I was practically adopted by a then-childless New York Jew some twenty years my senior and well known in intellectual circles. He was unrelenting in his exposure of unpleasant truth and made no exception for anyone’s feelings, including his own. He and his full siblings were the illegitimate second family of a merchant in leftover pieces of cloth. That’s where I picked up my normative Jewishness.

    I see traces of it all around. You cannot think of who Aaron Russo was without acknowledging his Jewishness. And so many others, including at this website. I instinctively make the highest demands of anyone on this wavelength, and most everyone fails.

    Gilad Atzmon is hugely important, but he cannot come clean on the Holocaust. He’s forever talking bullshit about revision, and throwing in his great grandmother as a concession, but afraid to say the Holocaust story is simply a crock of shit.

    David Cole, mentioned in the article, is a special case. After blowing apart the Holocaust story as a young man, he had to go into hiding for fear of his life. His cover was blown, and now the Tribal enforcers have him by the balls. He puts out an endless stream of antiantisemitism. Sad. I forgive him. But truth cannot.

    Normative Jewishness does not conflict with tribal loyalty. By all means, support your fellow tribesman, but within ethical bounds. Just as you would not support your brother by robbing a third party, it’s not okay for Jews to collude against non-Jews.

    The main problem the world has with Jews is not with individuals, no matter how repellent. It’s with a tribe that has in many respects the organisation of a world-dominating state, that is parasitic on other states and is is driven by satanic impulses. It is explicitly aimed at being “good for Jews”. All the nice Jews we know are beneficiaries of this monster (see Ron Unz’s piece on admissions to Harvard) amd one rightly demands that they do their bit to drive a stake through its heart, if by nothing else then by telling the truth. About the Fed. About the Holocaust. About 9/11, And about Israel. That should do it.

    There are ways of being Jewish and genuinely respecting yourself. It’s a matter of finally leaving Babylon.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @liz
  21. Z-man says:

    What!, a righteous Jew? Good article but he never mentions the big gorilla in the room, Izruel. i.e., the murderous, land grabbing Zionist entity.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  22. @SnakeEyes

    Apparently the guys who set up equipment to record the event were Irish, same as the “art students” squatting in the buildings with cases of detonators, that Silverstein dude is as Irish as they come don’t you know? So much more… but were they Irish? I forget… You should look into it, but I expect you already know what I’m on about. Better keep hoping this overreach isn’t the proverbial straw…

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  23. Karl says:

    I have succeeded in infecting Ron Unz’s brain with Jew-obsession

    Now I can contemplate taking control of him

  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    @Pseodo Anonymous

    As 9/11 occurred partly because of what the CIA withheld from the FBI together with internal failures to communicate or to connect dots it seems quite plausible that Mossad did pass on a lot of relevant information. In fact it would be surprising if, with reasonably certain knowledge of a major attack, they didn’t take steps to cover their asses. Indeed they might have set themselves up with CIA and FBI insiders by being able to embarrass some agents about the information they failed to make use of. But then they just mightn’t have known more than the CIA and FBI’s far mor numerous staff.

    • Replies: @bike-anarchist
  25. AaronB says:
    @Jason Liu

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence. Even if you believe in Jews are a monolithic leftist faction, it would still be good to divide or peel off some members of that faction.

    Completely unnecessary. Jewish brainpower is dwarfed by white brainpower. Do the math with population numbers and mean IQ.

    Brainpower is not the issue with whites.

    Also, if, as I suspect is happening, Jews are on the verge of entering a decadent phase, than Jewish brainpower will decline, as it’s as much a question of motivation as ability.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @ANON
  26. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SnakeEyes

    Don’t bother with him. He’s one of those who thinks there was some manipulative genius in the ether that could plan to have Cheney and Rumsfeld insane but so firmly in control that plausible reason for bombing Afghanistan could be reliably turned into an invasion of Iraq to further an Israeli plan to Balkanise the ME. He probably thinks that such clear thinking plotters would toss in the gratuitous demolition of WTC7 as well….

  27. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man.

    It is?

    Then why this, in the next sentence?

    But Miller is a crucially important figure in the Trump administration…

    WTF is this?:

    … Miller is a powerful spokesman for economic nationalist positions, anti-globalism, and for preserving this country’s original culture and people

    Preserving this country’s original culture and people?

    You gotta be kidding me.

    I quit reading this obnoxious, unctuous scribbling of a mythagogue right there.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    Well good that you have encountered the civilising influencevof Jonathan Miller as in

    I think UR obsessives have, however, too limited an acquaintance with Jews. American Jews may, considered as s whole, be something of a special case – made specially potent by their numbers, but I wouldn’t regard those I met on a tour of Israel as fitting the profile I find assumed on these threads. Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.

    • Replies: @Jake
  29. Malla says:

    Jew or no Jew. Stopping Immigration is not the end solution. The populations of the West have to go to post WW2 demographics.

  30. @Anonymous

    So you’re pro-White Genocide? Is that correct?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  31. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SnakeEyes

    Don’t worry about him. He’s probsbly one of those who credits some brilliant plotters with such Machievellian wiles that Cheney and Rumsfeld were worked up by there being a plausible case for bombing Afghanistan to committing the US to carrying out Israel’s ME Balkanisation plan starting with Iraq. And he probably believes a plan to demolish WTC7 with explosives was part of the brilliant scheming. His thoughts got stuck 15 years ago.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  32. @jilles dykstra

    What exactly motivates this first stage of the rocket, I suppose no more than a few thousand , I do not know.

    I gave up trying to assign a rational set of explanations for that long ago.

    I suspect the answer is simply that they’re nutzo. A bunch of crackpots.

  33. @Anonymous

    No, the Jews did not come close to being wiped out by the Europeans. The Jewish Almanac said that there was basically no change in global Jewish population.

  34. @NoseytheDuke

    Hi NoseytheDuke,

    Great educational job, Nosey! Hope author Marcus Alethia gets your message? Thanks.

    Linked below is an article that displays Israeli (immigration) double-standard; “news” to which of course our Jewish Corporate Media reflexively reacts & consigns to the “Memory Hole.”

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/05/551319/Israel-notifying-African-migrants

    Selah “I don’t wanna’ fight for Greater Israel no more!” (Paraphrased, “Maggie’s Farm,” by the has been anti-war radical, Bob Dylan)

  35. “Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish? What makes Mr Aletheia think that we Europeans either need or want Jewish help (to say nothing of the Jewish domination his argument implies) in defending our homelands and cultures? Is this not just a Jewish version of Hitler’s master race ideology?

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @AaronB
    , @SolontoCroesus
  36. Jake says:

    “but I just can’t understand American Jews having feelings of fear or hostility towards White Christian Americans in general.”

    Well, isn’t is obvious that as every synagogue built in the US before 1950 was destroyed in a pogrom
    and as no Jews were allowed to get rich or hold political or judicial office or found their own country clubs that white Gentile Americans eat, sleep, and breathe anti-Semitism?

    THE reason for the above is not merely Jesus; the overriding reason is Christendom.

    Gentiles of any skin hue believing Jesus to be the christos/messias is not necessarily a big deal to Jews. And that goes triple – no, sextuple – when those non-white Jesus people hold views that are heretical according to historic Christianity.

    Jews always adore Christian heretics. Renaissance Jews loved what Luther said about the Old Testament and loved even more his acting to split Christendom. Jews loved Oliver Cromwell allying with them.

    Because Christendom was built upon Greek and Latin by white men, Jews have a deep-embedded hatred of all things European in cultural terms as well as genetics. Jews intend to prevent the revival of Christendom by refashioning both the peoples who reside in formerly white nations and the cultures of those lands.

    Everything any of you do to oppose this that is not about working to revive Christendom is either pissing in the wind or inadvertently working with Christ-hating/Christendom-hating/white-hating Jews.

    And yes, that means those of you who hope to save WASP culture and use it to save Europe and the West are, like Oliver Cromwell, in bed with Jews to your own eventual destruction.

  37. As i read through the first paragraphs, I was troubled by the foundation being laid. The state of Israel as it exists today are not the original inhabitants of Israel – not even close. What’s more is that that they are attempting to create a purity that simply didn’t exist at the time the original people’s created their nation.

    The premise has some deep flaws in logic and reality. The current state of Israel doesn’t even practice as a whole what they claim as their birthright, the expectations established. A claim that the Jews of Israel today are the original or indigenous population is akin to the bizarre claim that Belgians are the original people’s of the Congo.

    It’s an astounding claim to support for which there is very little support.

  38. Jake says:
    @Anonymous

    “Like a typical English or pre WW2 Australian Jew one, e.g. had two non observant daughters married to lapsed Catholics and he was perfectly happy with that.”

    It is pro-Jewish for Catholics to lapse, which includes attending Mass but believing like a Mainline Protestant. Lapsing Catholics are loved and needed by Jews because they weaken whatever chance we have to revive Christendom.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. Jake says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Now that is a waters muddying comment that could have been written by the SPLC or the ADL. Or the average Jewish Neocon journalist.

  40. AaronB says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Jews need to focus … on the moral necessity of protecting ethnic homelands and cultures in Europe”. Who gave Jews, and specifically American Jews, the right to “protect” ethnic cultures that are not Jewish?

    Exactly. It’s a sign of growing Jewish stupidity and loss of tactical intelligence that the author is oblivious to how tactless that sounds. A hundred years ago, Jews would never have forgotten so basic a rule of psychology as avoid appearing superior when trying to ingratiate. But power makes stupid – literally stupid – and Jewish decline is in its early stages. Grasp of psychology is eroding.

  41. Zionist Israel and the Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the American government were the ones who did 911 and tried to sink the USS LIBERTY and proof of this is the fact that although every thinking American knows this , not a thing has been done to Israel, because they control every facet of the government.

    Trump is a puppet of Israel as has every POTUS since JFK who they assassinated along with RFK and JFK jr, and so as usual Israel is the real power in America and that is why we are fighting wars with out end in the Mideast, Americans are fighting and dying for Israel, and this will go on until there are no more Americans to die for ISRAEL.

    Congress is the lower house of the Knesset and the actual capital of the U.S. is TEL AVIV.

  42. @AaronB

    Jews.
    Help.
    Whites.

    Same sentence.

    My computer just burst into flames.

    “Help the Gentiles.” is the opposite of what the Talmud commands.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  43. Good article. I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies. I think of it sort of like the treaties we have with the Native Americans. It should lay out rights and responsibilities on both sides.

    I got this idea from the book The Jews by Hillaire Belloc which I highly recommend. It was written in 1922 and predicted a major backlash against Jews that had been building for some time all throughout Europe. The cause was initially Jewish dominance of finance and other Jewish power, and was coming to a head because of Bolshevism.

    He talks about how to break this pattern that keeps recurring:
    * Europeans pretend that Jews are just like any other citizens of their countries – Germans, French, etc.
    * Jews become increasingly powerful in various fields – finance, government, the press, etc. and in many cases are clearly working against the interests of their fellow citizens.
    * Taboos against talking about Jews and Jewish influence cause the pressure to build for awhile.
    * Finally at some point, Europeans have had enough and there is a backlash against Jews, which may become violent.
    * Europeans feel guilty about the backlash and go back to leaving the Jews alone and pretending they don’t exist.
    * Jews start gaining power again and the cycle repeats.

    He points out that Jews aren’t going anywhere – even when Spain expelled them for 300 years they still made their way back in. They also aren’t assimilating – it’s been 2000 years, they would have by now if they were going to. They are a distinct “nation” and their loyalty and identity is to other Jews – and that’s ok, as long as it’s recognized as such.

    He suggests that this recognition could include benefits for Jews and not just limitations – such as Jews potentially being exempt from conscription for military service.

    The book is written as a starting point for thinking about this, not necessarily with all the details of how the recognition would work. My impression reading the book was that much of it still resonates today and that it’s too bad almost 100 years have gone by without anyone really picking up where he left off.

    One of the things that bothers me a lot about the conventional wisdom is the way white people are attacked and condemned for feeling a sense of identity and solidarity with other white people. That seems perfectly natural and no non-white or non-Western racial or religious group is condemned for that. So it hardly seems fair to condemn Jews for having a group identity with other Jews.

    The issue is how to properly manage the inevitable conflicts of interest so things don’t get out of hand. Maybe if the Jews had recognition of their place as a permanent minority nation within the West, then they wouldn’t be trying to flood the West with foreigners – on the contrary, as this article suggests, they would want to preserve their Western home.

    And maybe recognition of the Jews as having a place, but with appropriate limitations on their power, would avoid the white majority getting fed up with Jewish dominance and there being a nasty backlash. Also, honesty about Jewish identity and interests would avoid white people getting exasperated with knowing what really motivates the Bill Kristol and Bret Stephens types but not being allowed to acknowledge it.

    • Agree: Antlitz Grollheim
    • Replies: @Sam J.
  44. Of course it is absurd to suggest that Trump is anything but his own man.

    90%+ credibility GONE, with this absurd statement!

    …need more Stephen Millers. Brash, unafraid, quick-witted, verbally formidable, and unabashedly “America First,”…

    Is this a love letter?!

    You, “… also have the ADL and the SPLC — powerful well-funded groups who conduct witch hunts against anyone who dares speak out against … or who dares to criticize Jews.

    Jewish political influence in the US is still overwhelmingly negative,

    I think that is “overwhelmingly” the salient part, non?
    This appendix is impotent and/or just for show, non, “…despite the great work of a few good Jews.

    It is difficult for me to keep traction with the remainder of this article.
    It looks like shill.

    Ultimately, everyone will have to confront the core of the actual issue, can you have people, who ascribe to an international collective based on systemic discrimination and hatred against all out-group peoples, call it “humanity”, under the ridiculous pretense of ‘choseness’ by a supreme power, which explicitly fosters a de-empathefication against humanity, in order to negative-sum-gain game the system for the benefit of the collective?

    Kol Nidre ““All vows [ ], obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘ḳonam,’ ‘ḳonas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.”

    Can members of such a collective ever be trusted to be “America first”?

    I don’t see how it could be done?

  45. @Jason Liu

    The Jewish God has commanded Jews to subjugate the Gentile world and exterminate all who resist.

    Whites don’t need that kind of “help”.

    And Whites don’t need “Jewish brainpower.”

    Really, that is why Jews hate us: Our flat IQ distribution shows that we produce plenty of our own geniuses (genii), and Jewish supremacist ideology will not forgive us for that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. Talha says:

    Very interesting article. Looking forward to see how this sentiment plays out as the environment (and thus dynamic) changes.

  47. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    Absurd propaganda that people are finally awakening to.
    Jews were pouring out of Europe, went everywhere after WWII.
    There is zero proof for the impossible ’6M Jews’.

    If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  48. @Rabbi High Comma

    There is a point in progressing of the events when mob cannot be controlled, and we should be careful that it does not happen in US.
    Concerning Germany we do not know If Hitler lead the mob or if he only was responding to mob.
    He is dead now, and so we cannot ask him, Better be careful than sorry

  49. nsa says:
    @Anonymous

    No, no, no…….didn’t you get the memo? The 6 1/2′ arab holed up in his cave high in the hindu kush, with his giant porn collection and many wives, hooked up to an artificial kidney machine and hookah pipe, directed 19 goat herders to fly airliners into giant skyscrapers, reactor sites, and a military headquarters half way around the world. Get with the program or you will be receiving a visit……

  50. @Michael Kenny

    re:

    “Hitler’s master race ideology . . .”

    Been hearing a lot about “Hitler’s master race ideology” lately.

    Could somebody please explain it succinctly, using Hitler’s own words? Also, please provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge for himself.

    Thanks in advance.

  51. neutral says:
    @Jason Liu

    The international right could use Jewish brainpower, Jewish verbal skills, Jewish influence.

    The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist. Even jews like Stephan Miller are not be trusted, his main concern is the long run safety of Israel, he believes that a non white America and Europe is bad for Israel, while the majority of jews think it is good for Israel and the jews in general. I tend to agree with the leftist views on this one, a non white world would be better for the jews because it would easier (mostly) to sedate multiracial states with pop culture and money worship than it is with homogeneous white states.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  52. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    provide sources so that a fact-checking critical thinker can judge

    Fact-checking critical thinkers can be expensive to hire. You gonna sub for the Woodchuck on his bus route to earn the needed coins?

  53. A welcomed self-critique. But some of it also doesn’t sit well with me, in particular this sentence:

    Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.

    This is the problem with Jews in America in a nutshell: 80% are liberals who want open borders and at least 79% of them also want for America to defend Israel at all cost, the remaining 20% are neocons who want America to defend Israel at all cost and, at least 19% also want open borders. To be sure Jews are not alone in this, many Mexicans, Chinese, Indians, Muslims also bear such thinking, loyalty to their homeland or religion over loyalty to America, but at least most of them are recent immigrants. Most Jews have been here since 1880. It’s why I think we need to abolish dual citizenship. All those who hold dual citizenships should be stripped of their US citizenship and asked to leave.

    I love this speech given by Woodrow Wilson to a group of newly naturalized American citizens in Philadelphia:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=65388

    …And while you bring all countries with you, you come with a purpose of leaving all other countries behind you—bringing what is best of their spirit, but not looking over your shoulders and seeking to perpetuate what you intended to leave behind in them. I certainly would not be one even to suggest that a man cease to love the home of his birth and the nation of his origin—these things are very sacred and ought not to be put out of our hearts—but it is one thing to love the place where you were born and it is another thing to dedicate yourself to the place to which you go. You cannot dedicate yourself to America unless you become in every respect and with every purpose of your will thorough Americans. You cannot become thorough Americans if you think of yourselves in groups. America does not consist of groups. A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American, and the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes.

  54. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5104644,00.html

    ‘Iran can create a hell for the Zionist regime’

    Tehran and Hezbollah issue new threats in the wake of Syrian downing of Israeli F-16, which was retaliating against Iranian drone that infiltrated Israel; celebrations in Lebanon, Syria: ‘Your planes went down.’

    “Iran could destroy all American military bases in the region and create a hell for the Zionist regime,” said the deputy head of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Hossein Salami, according to the Tasnim news agency.

    Syrian soldiers celebrating with treats

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

    • Replies: @ANON
    , @iffen
    , @Art
  55. @Jason Liu

    Over at Chateau Heartiste, Mr. Roissy —not widely known as a fanboi of, or world-class apologist for, the Jooooos— posted some months ago the s’pozedly valid statistic that 58.8% of self-identified married Joooo-ish cisgender males voted for Trump. If that’s for real, could it be yet another Joooo-ish scam to fool the dimwitted, emasculated “soyim” (another great neologism from Roissy!)?

    • Replies: @nsa
  56. Given that, what is really best for the Jews?

    What is best for the Jews is to stop thinking of themselves as Jews, but as Americans, and only Americans, nothing else. Stop thinking of or for your clan and start think for yourself, as an individual. As Theodore Roosevelt once said: We do not have hyphenated Americans, there is no 50-50 American, you are either an American or you are not.

    The best thing for Jews, and all other minority groups, is stop thinking of yourself as a hyphenated American, but just as an American, that is, if you are a citizen. If you are not, think of yourself as a foreigner living temporarily in America, stop demanding anything of us, and leave before your welcome wears out.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  57. Mulegino1 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Insofar as I have been able to determine, the concept of the “herrenvolk” or “master race” referred more to a culture and nation characterized by self-mastery, not slave-mastery. In other words, a people who were disciplined, cultured and dignified, not a bunch of swaggering loutish overlords who never shut up about “Aryan superiority” and whose primary collective purpose and perceived historical mission was the extermination of the Slavish and Jewish “untermenschen.”

    The comic book cutout “Nazi” – always in search of Slavs and Jews to destroy, most likely never existed, or if he did, he was a criminal aberration and at complete variance with real NSDAP policy. Historical National Socialists like Himmler and Rosenberg had race based ideas based on perceived pre-Christian, Teutonic culture and beliefs, but they never advocated for the physical extermination of the Slavs and the Jews. They believed in the superiority of the Aryan race and culture, but they did not necessarily denigrate- to the point of justification of enslavement- the race and culture of others.

    The National Socialist regime’s primary rationale for its opposition to international Jewry was not a racial supremacist or irrational hatred of Jewish culture or religiosity but the age old reaction to the chronically anti-social and even criminal machinations of the Jewish collective against its Christian host cultures.

  58. liz says:
    @sarz

    Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it. And make cautious alliances with the tribe. It is the looney left that denounces tribalism among us, but Jews and Muslims are excepted. Tribalism is what works. It’s worked for hundreds of thousands of years. Europe of tribes worked. Europe of tribes became a travelers’ gem. Europe of multikulti is falling apart.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  59. @Wally

    https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1654038/merkel-duitsland-schuldig-aan-holocaust

    Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Sam J.
  60. @Jason Liu

    It’s got nothing to do with right/left, and everything to do with Jew/cattle.

    They give no quarter; they shall get no quarter.

  61. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Hitler resurrected Germany.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  62. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Herman

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

    Do Chinese run the laundry business in TelAviv?

    They’d be the ones to best deal with that Shi*t crescent forming in Israel’s knickers.

  63. @SolontoCroesus

    Read the english translation of Mein Kampf, sold by Amazon in the USA.
    Be warned, 600 boring pages.
    Am not quite sure of “master race’ is mentioned, but social Darwinism surely.

    But, at the time, this was a philosophy all over the west.
    See
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    This Chamberlain was the brother of the British 1938 München Chamberlain, at the time British prime minister.
    Houston lived in Germany, his tries to explain European success in controlling the world by being a better race.

    In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.
    For Hitler, banking was not work, work had to do with sweat.

    For a, in my opinion, far better explanation of European success
    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000
    Here the explanation is the direction in which the earth turns, the unique North Sea, and, what the writer calls ‘the grass highway from Mongolia to the Flanders coast’.

  64. @Orwellian State

    The problem with that is that Jews and most other immigrants and minorities are not Americans, and never can be Americans, even If they wanted to be, which few do.

    Why not just admit that America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to? When you do that, it’s easy to see what America is, who are the actual Americans, and what has been the effect of immigration. It’s also easier to see solutions.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  65. nsa says:
    @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    Trumpstein is a Gooie……Goy on the outside, Jooie on the inside.

    • LOL: L.K
  66. “Even if things do go wildly wrong for diaspora Jews in the future, we have a viable ethnostate that we know will take us in; a luxury few other peoples in the world possess.”

    But, unfortunately for Israel, the Syria and its allies now have a better position on the chessboard since the IAF failed on their mission. Russia will not stand for it, and this incident of Israeli hubris has now given Syria and its allies permission to retaliate against even the slightest rebuke.

    Israel will be going down in its present form in our life times. If the author fells that “tikun-olam” is a saving grace for diasporic Jews, then they can apply those face-saving gestures on the state of Israel, influencing the decline on ethno-centrism there and creating the one-state solution of a truly democratic Palestine.

  67. I like Stephen Miller a lot and do trust him despite his “affiliation”. The only thing I’ll counter-signal is I didnt like him as a warm-up speaker for Trump. I thought he was flat.

    ps Murray Rothbard also deserves an asterisk. Even though he was the Godfather of AnCap, his instincts were reactionary. He once ventured at a family dinner of 20-30 people engaged in Left-Wing after-dinner conversation, “what’s so bad about Franco?”. He also said, “I cannot believe in God, but I somehow fervently believe that Mary was His mother.”.

  68. @Anonymous

    Mossad at best just disinfo-ed the U$A intelligence establishment about what was about to happen. But, whoever “masterminded” 9/11 it is still an inside job, and I am convinced that U$A and Israel were BOTH involved… follow the money!

    • Replies: @plonialmoni
  69. iffen says:
    @Dan Herman

    Israel’s military has struck 12 Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria in what it described as “large-scale” attacks following an exchange of fire earlier in the day.
    “A few minutes ago, [Israeli aircraft]…targeted the Syrian Aerial Defense System and Iranian targets in Syria,” a military statement said on February 10.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/israel-iran-syria-fighter-jet-shot-down/29031815.html

  70. “…America is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that Jews and others came to…”

    Don’t forget to add, “and the product of genocide of the original indigenous inhabitants”.

    Or, “Israel is the product of the colonists and settlers who built the nation that no one else can be considered if not Jewish…”

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

    • Replies: @ANONYMOUS
    , @OilcanFloyd
  71. @jilles dykstra

    Nothing what you mentioned is written in Main kampf.
    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them and that there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany, and that they were only in administrative positions.
    Most of Mein Kampf is only organizational instructions for the party.nd also some grievances about what did happen to Germany as a result of defeat.
    Nothing in Main Kampf about Germans as a master race,
    And no Darvin mentioned in Men Kampf.
    If you disagree just show me a page and I can verify it for you.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @annamaria
  72. Art says:

    I am pro-white imperfect Christian Western culture – not pro-white tribal skin.

    The good part of white – is its cooperative optimistic Christian culture – not it racist biological tribal identity.

    Being individually cooperative, hopeful, and truth seeking, is the reason for the white Wests success.

    Isn’t Miller being politically pro-white tribal skin. This is NOT what we need. That brings war – not peace. Idealistic Christian white wants peace.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How is Miller on the ME Israeli Jew wars – hmm?

    p.s. Would he be for Israel or America? He cannot be loyal to both.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  73. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    A real yawner. And OJ Simpson was innocent.
    Merkel, the communist, has no proof for the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers”.
    Merkel’s government’ considers free speech to be a “criminal activity against the state”.
    This is a desperate action by those who fear the truth.
    Note that in Germany and much of Europe free speech on the ‘holocaust’ storyline is strictly forbidden. Truth needs no protection, it can stand on it’s own.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel was voluntarily involved and held positions with East German communists.
    Merkel voluntarily, enthusiastically joined communist organizations.
    Happily strolling around in her E.German communist uniform with her communist friends.Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ.
    http://www.codoh.com

  74. @jilles dykstra

    “In Mein Kampf jews are characterised as parasites, translation of Schmarotzer, literally a plant as misletoe, living on another plant, or tree.”

    Wait. I imagine the cell biology of a parasite is far different from that of misletoe. And the connotation in vernacular English is WAY WAY different.

    I’m getting echoes, here, of a “special” translation, same as Ahmadinejad supposedly saying in Iranian that “Israel will be exterminated”.

    • Replies: @Antlitz Grollheim
  75. annamaria says:

    The Israelis firmly believe that the US is ready to initiate WWIII in order to augment the apartheid theocracy (“the only democracy in the Middle East”)
    “Major escalation: Israel carries out “Large Scale Attack” on Syria after Israeli F-16 shot down:” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-10/israel-carries-out-large-scale-attack-syria-after-israeli-f-16-shot-down
    “…according to a statement issued to the AFP, Israel says Iran and Syria are “playing with fire” … regional media reports indicate Israel has continued to pound the Damascus countryside throughout the morning. The Syrian government has condemned Israel’s actions as unwarranted “aggression”.
    It must be remembered that the Israeli Air Force has acknowledged striking targets inside Syria at least 100 times over the past few years of the conflict, with the last attack prior to today’s events happening just earlier this week. Syria has frequently taken its case before the U.N., calling for official condemnation of the unprovoked attacks, but has been just as frequently rebuffed.
    In its now ‘open secret’ of a years-long pursuit of regime change in Syria, Israel has given covert support to al-Qaeda linked groups in Syria’s south – near the vicinity of today’s F-16 shoot down – which has involved weapons transfers and treatment of wounded jihadists in Israeli hospitals, according to The Wall Street Journal. As former Acting Director of the CIA Michael Morell once directly told the Israeli public, Israel’s “dangerous game” in Syria has involved getting in bed with al-Qaeda in order to fight Shia Iran. And as Israel has long sought ways to justify attacks on Iranian assets in Syria while at the same time undermining and destabilizing the Syrian government, the downing of an F-16 may have given Israel’s hawkish leadership the excuse they’ve been looking for all along to escalate toward a final confrontation.”
    — The whining criminals are expecting that the same taxpayers that provided Israel with F-16, will finance and provide “limbs” for Israel’s war of aggression against a neighboring country.

  76. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Max Nordau provided a lot more content to modern zionism than Herzl did.
    Nordau was a huge advocate for “muscle Jews.”
    A physician, Nordau observed that Jews were physically and mentally “degenerated” and in need of “regeneration” to raise them to the stature of the biblical heroes Nordau recalled from his childhood — the derring do of David and Samson etc.

    So muscle Jews became the watchword.

    Jews shed their “intercessionary,” supplicant posture and instead Made Demands and Took Charge.

    I used to work for a Jewish family — lived in their house, participated in all manner of their family activities. They were decent employers, but never any question what the status-and-power relationships were: I was a peon, they were the professionals, the elites.

    Until I announced that I intended to leave, to pursue greater opportunities.

    I was astonished at the whining and begging, and especially at the Lady of the House when she played what she apparently thought was her trump card: “I believe in Jesus and everything . . . Just stay!”

    When Muscle Jew is effective, play that card.
    When it fails, whine.
    Flexibility is key.

    That’s Alithea’s take-away message.

    I also experienced another version of the Jewish version of “Can’t we all just get along,” when a Jewish group — maybe JVP — hosted a conference on Palestine, with heavy outreach to the “larger Christian community.”
    It is not their goal to demand that Israel’s leadership change, or that ADL be investigated for spying on US institutions, etc., none of that.
    Jews want Christians to join them “in solidarity” — to achieve Jewish goals.

    Ain’t gonna do it.
    It’s a sucker bet.
    It’s camouflage.

    Jews are the enemy.

    The British found that out the hard way (but not hard enough, apparently: the British are still suckered by Jews at every turn) — Jews used British to acquire Palestine for them, to roust Arabs for benefit of Jews, and then Jews killed British leaders, killed British soldiers, and finally kicked out the British.

    Because the British refused to recognize that Jews were their enemy.

    • Replies: @hyperbola
  77. Moi says:

    We now have a Jewish problem? Oy vey!

  78. Issac says:
    @anony-mouse

    A diasporatic sounds reasonable and all of a sudden the rabble are toting pitchforks and looking to accuse him of being a crypto gentile. What a useless lot you are. G-d help us; as I’m sure more of you will be making aliyah in the near future to escape the consequence of your actions.

  79. Issac says:
    @Anonymous

    So thoroughly wiped out that we regained our ancestral homeland and grew our population like never before amid rising to international prominence. Alas this misfortune!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  80. Vinteuil says:

    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn’t around to police things, as he pleases.

    Seriously: who approves or disapproves comments on a post like this? Is it RKU himself?

    It’s obviously not the author of the OP.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    , @Art
  81. @jilles dykstra

    I don’t think MK is boring. Difficult, perhaps, but not boring. I avoid like the plague versions of MK that have been heavily annotated, such as the Raoul de Roussy de Sales version.

    I’ve been working on a project since Twelfth Night, and an extended passage from MK ch. 3 has caught my attention. I don’t understand many of the specific political references AH makes to the various factions in Austrian government, etc., but the key point that applied directly to my project is that Christians, especially Protestants but also Catholics, are so committed to the abstractions of their beliefs — i.e. “democracy,” and “tolerance,” and “love everyone,” that they cling to those abstractions even at the dire cost of their concrete well-being (my quick and dirty précis of Hitler’s main points in this passage).

    Here’s part of that chapter, from Mein Kampf:

    This unfortunate habit of looking at all national demands from the viewpoint of a pre-conceived notion makes it impossible for us to see the subjective side of a thing which objectively contradicts one’s own doctrine. It finally leads to a complete reversion in the relation of means to an end. Any attempt at a national revival will be opposed if the preliminary condition of such a revival be that a bad and pernicious regime must first of all be overthrown; because such an action will be considered as a violation of the ‘Authority of the State’. In the eyes of those who take that standpoint, the ‘Authority of the State’ is not a means which is there to serve an end but rather, to the mind of the dogmatic believer in objectivity, it is an end in itself; and he looks upon that as sufficient apology for his own miserable existence. Such people would raise an outcry, if, for instance,anyone should attempt to set up a dictatorship, even though the man responsible for it were Frederick the Great and even though the politicians for the time being, who constituted the parliamentary majority, were small and incompetent men or maybe even on a lower grade of inferiority; because to such sticklers for abstract principles the law of democracy is more sacred than the welfare of the nation. In accordance with his principles, one of these gentry will defend the worst kind of tyranny, though it may be leading a people to ruin, because it is the fleeting embodiment of the ‘Authority of the State’, and another will reject even a highly beneficent government if it should happen not to be in accord with his notion of ‘democracy’.

    In the same way our German pacifist will remain silent while the nation is groaning under an oppression which is being exercised by a sanguinary military power, when this state of affairs gives rise to active resistance; because such resistance means the employment of physical force, which is against the spirit of the pacifist associations. The German International Socialist may be rooked and plundered by his comrades in all the other countries of the world in the name of ‘solidarity’, but he responds with fraternal kindness and never thinks of trying to get his own back, or even of defending himself. And why? Because he is a–German.

    It may be unpleasant to dwell on such truths, but if something is to be changed we must start by diagnosing the disease. . . .

    (nb. #1. I’m mentioned Prof. David Engel’s lecture series, Understanding the Holocaust. Engel has a very unpleasant voice — at least, it offends my ear. There’s one snippet that I can’t get out of my head: Engel says — actually, barks, that “Hitler is all emotion, all ego, no intellect, no reason, just pure hate . . .” I’m not so sure about that.

    Another idiot Jew who jerks off by vilifying Hitler uses Wagner’s operas as his vehicle. He concedes that Wagner was brilliant, but condemns Wagner because “Hitler liked him” (and also because Wagner wrote the “antisemitic” Judenthum, a strong critique of Jewish music-style. ) Yes, Hitler did like Wagner’s operas. Hitler could, and did, hum or whistle the various leitmotifs from the Ring Cycle. I think there are ~250 of them. I wonder how many of them Engel might recognize? )

    (nb. #2. RobinG mentioned David Swanson, and he and his wild reaction to “Charlottesville” came to mind as I read this chapter from MK. Swanson is a pacifist, but he does not seem to see propaganda — i.e. being systematically and persistently lied to and demonized — as an act of war against which a person who values his liberty is duty-bound to resist and defend, with equal force.)

  82. Vinteuil says:
    @Vinteuil

    …which OP, btw, was very good indeed.

  83. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Wacky world

  84. Art says:
    @Dan Herman

    Russia: Respect Syria’s sovereignty

    Immediately following the incident, Israel sought Russia’s urgent intervention to prevent further escalation on its northern frontier, making it clear to the Russians it considered all of its warnings of Iranian entrenchment in Syria to have come to pass.

    Israel losing an F-16 is a major lose. The invincible is no longer invincible. (The cost of an F-16 is greater then anything they blew up.)

    Israel is screwed – the last thing they really want to risk is an all out Syrian war. That would be a long war. Israel can not sustain a long war.

    Their demands of Russia are pleas for help.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. When the Jews come calling – what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do — rush to war for Israel – or be an American for America?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  85. ANONYMOUS • Disclaimer says:
    @bike-anarchist

    Funny how the U$A and Israel mirror each other.

    With two or three differences:

    1. Slavery has been officially named the Original Sin of USA. Jews were major participants & profiteers of slavery in USA.

    2. Yes, it is historically true that indigenous people on American continent were badly treated by European settlers, just as Palestinians are badly-to-brutally treated in their homeland by Jewish settlers.
    BUT — when Europeans left their homelands in Europe, Britain, etc., they did not destroy them and kill as many as they could of those people with whom they had previously dwelt.
    Jews did these things — as they left Poland, Germany, Russia, even France and Italy.
    This is the Jewish – Old Testament Exodus protocol: steal, kill, and destroy future generations on your way out.

    That’s one thing, at least, that Christians got right; one way that Christians rejected Old Testament in favor of New Testament: Christians did not destroy their European homelands when they left.

    Jews did.

  86. @bike-anarchist

    The U.S. and Israel do not mirror each other. The “genocide” of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans, and it took centuries to get the ball rolling. Zionists immediately started ethnically cleansing and are still working at it, since it’s built in to their system. It’s what they are about.

    No current or past immigrants to America came to live like Native Indians, no matter how much they try to guilt or shame Whites for the crimes that their White ancestors supposedly committed. People are coming to America to take advantage of what Whites built, and it’s always been that way. By your logic, immigrants are receiving stolen property, at best.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @bike-anarchist
  87. bahmi says:

    One must read the works of Dr Kevin MacDonald on this subject. His “Culture of Critique” delineates jewish migration to the US during the late 1800′s, and it tells us, with jewish approvals, that jews are pro-multiculturism because it helps take the focus off jewish people and jewish characteristics on a broad palette. Jews are not multicultural for mere slapdash reasons, they want cover in this culture, they want to blend in so the sharp eye of the natives does not rest on them. MacDonald has survived the gauntlet in/on this book and prospective readers are highly encouraged to read this book. You’ll read the work of a master who says it like it is. Great book!

  88. RJJCDA says:

    When speaking about certain people, and even when self-referencing, we hear the term Irish American and not American Irish, Italian American and not American Italian, Japanese American and not American Japanese and even Black or African American and not American African. But it is quite common to refer to Jews, and have them refer to themselves as “American Jews.” This, at least to me, illustrates that many if not most Jews here are Jews first and just incidentally reside in America. The weight is always on the noun, not the adjective.

    The author of this piece recognizes this and plaudits to her. Solzhenitsyn strongly supported Israel as a homeland for one of the 200 or so nationalities existing (paraphrase: “…the nations of the world are the wealth of mankind, each blessed with their own divine facets.”) But he fell out of favor with the neocons when he seemed to imply that Jews everywhere, especially in Russia and in America had to choose which allegiance had priority.

  89. anonYMOUS • Disclaimer says:
    @hyperbola

    thanks

    never return an empty plate —

    Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944 – 1948
    by Robert Lackner
    (for obtaining the academic degree of master of philosophy at the Karl-Franzen University Graz

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=http://unipub.uni-graz.at/download/pdf/207265&usg=ALkJrhg1inn9a5y782JUTjh38aGy3lMYNA

  90. Art says:
    @Vinteuil

    The usual sewer of a comments thread, around here, whenever Steve Sailer isn’t around to police things, as he pleases.

    Clearly, the only way Jews can prosper is with censorship. The truth hurts them. When the truth is known – people will not want to have anything to do with them.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: AaronB, L.K
  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Well you may have a point but it is a different point to anything to do with my friendly Jewish acquaintance.

  92. Art says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Concerning Jews: Hitler only mentioned that it is impossible to argue with them

    First I hate Hitler.

    Here is it is —- Hitler – Mein Kamp.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying

    Think Peace — Art

  93. MarkinLA says:
    @Jason Liu

    It is hard peeling off some members when some issues to them are non-negotiable. Take the holocaust. You can have NO deviation from the official story. You can’t even have a discussion. I am an agnostic on the issue since it is something I care not one whit about and am largely ignorant of and don’t care to study it so I don’t listen to either side. However, Jews on the subject are quite psychotic about it – even diaspora Jews who lost nobody to it.

    A Jew will always find some holocaust skeptic in any crowd. For them that means the whole group and everything they stand for is illegitimate.

    I have had my comments flagged and removed on supposedly conservative sites as “hateful” simply for posting that -”I don’t care about the holocaust and the US had nothing to do with it so doesn’t need to endlessly beg for forgiveness”.

  94. Rurik says:

    One thing that the existence of Jews like Stephen Miller help to demonstrate (conclusively prove), is that the smear of ‘anti-Semite is a fraud and a lie.

    Because the whole idea of a person being an anti-Semite, is that they irrationally hate all Jews simply for being Jews.

    whereas I don’t know of any of these elusive ‘anti-Semites’ who’ve chimed in with their hatred of Stephen Miller = the Jew.

    Which demonstrates (proves) that there never was any so-called anti-Semitism to begin with. And that rather for hating Jews for being Jews, what some people are guilty of is hating *some* Jews for what they did or are doing. (working feverishly toward the genocide of Palestinian Arabs and European whites)

    No ‘far right-winger’ vis-à-vis the immigration debate hates Stephan Miller, or even the Jews of the ADL, for all I know. But they sure do despise, (and rightfully so) the agenda of *some* Jews (Noel Ignatiev, Barbara Spectre, et al) to see them and their white families maligned and hated and discriminated against and crushed under a juggernaut of non-white immigrants and “refugees” that will erase their unique phenotype (and creative genius) off the face of the planet for all time.

    And it’s nice to see other Jews who feel that such a development isn’t a Jewish imperative.

    • Replies: @Anon
  95. Incitatus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Hitler resurrected Germany.”

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer after ordering Germany destroyed, March 1945

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @renfro
    , @Wally
  96. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well the seriously big money has to be the trillions wasted on arms and war in Afghanistan (including Pakistan) and the ME. I don’t suppose you would contest that. Any little gains (alleged) for Silverstein or short sellers are just peripheral peanuts…

    So, how does your convinced thinking handle the inherent chanciness of concocting and using an excuse to bomb Afghanistan (which might have given up bin Laden or found his dead body killed in an air strike) so as to be able to pursue the big money Balkanising war 2000 miles away in Iraq?

  97. AaronB says:
    @Art

    This is very true.

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Imagine if you want to make someone believe something without regard to the truth. Wouldn’t you behave exactly this way?

    It would be natural. You wouldn’t even have to think about it, these tactics would come naturally, and you’d become quite skilled at them over time. Eventually, you wouldn’t even notice it.

    Or imagine if the point was that you couldn’t appear “wrong” – you’d behave this way too.

    I used to have these kinds of arguments with my father when I was younger. To him, the loss of status in admitting he was wrong was intolerable. The pain was too great. It once got so ridiculous that he insisted that on certain situations two plus two does not equal four – literally. Nothing was worse than admitting he was wrong. Nothing.

    Try and appreciate the pain and fear someone must be in to do that. This isn’t strength.

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong because without doing that, you can’t build technology. But it’s worthless if your goal is social power.

    The problem is that whites are so used to the honesty that is needed for technology that they don’t realize it is just one approach among many one can adopt towards argument. They assume everyone thinks this way.

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them. They just think whites are really stupid at it!

    And so, the two populations are divided by differing objectives, and cannot understand each other.

  98. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR you only have to consider comparable formulations. E.g. Bernard Baruch was an Anglophobe according to the diary notes I have just read written by a man I knew in his old sge who corresponded with Herbert Hoover and Bernard Baruch inter slios. He noted that the latter was anti-Btitish. OK that could be interpreted as being, like FDR, against British imperial policy and practice. But think on.

    Try “I wouldn’t bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She’s so anti-English. I think it’s got something to do with the loss of her family’s gold mine in South Africa**”.

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    Why is “anti-Semitic” not a perfectly good generalisation about others’ generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    Gòod to see you back. BTW while I know where your clever humorous moniker comes from I have forgotten whether you are Jewish – maybe English Jewish from German background?

  100. renfro says:
    @Art

    Well Hitler gave a good description of conversing with Jews

    But here’s the real skinny on it:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-shasha/what-is-pilpul-and-why-on_b_507522.html

    What Is Pilpul , And Why On Earth Should I Care About It?

    By David Shasha
    For those who have any concern with the Middle East conflict or with Judaism, what you know — or do not know — about pilpul is something upon which your well-being could depend. Ignorance of pilpul is a very dangerous thing, something that would allow your interlocutor to have the upper hand in ways that you could not begin to even imagine.

    What is thought to be the Jewish “genius” is often a mark of how pilpul is deployed. The rhetorical tricks of pilpul make true rational discussion impossible; any “discussion” is about trying to “prove” a point that has already been established. There is little use trying to argue in this context, because any points being made will be twisted and turned to validate the already-fixed position.
    Pilpul is the rhetorical means to mark as “true” that which cannot ever be disputed by rational means.

    What this means for contemporary Jewish discourse is critical: Even though many contemporary Jews are not observant, pilpul continues to be deployed. Pilpul occurs any time the speaker is committed to “prove” his point regardless of the evidence in front of him. The casuistic aspect of this hair-splitting leads to a labyrinthine form of argument where the speaker blows enough rhetorical smoke to make his interlocutor submit. Reason is not an issue when pilpul takes over: what counts is the establishment of a fixed, immutable point that can never truly be disputed

    As if this was not enough, the Tosafists instituted one more pilpul principle into Talmudic discourse. This was called the Lav Davqa method. In English we might call it the “Not Quite” way of reading a text. When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!

    The contentiousness of the Middle East conflict is intimately informed by pilpul. Whether it is Alan Dershowitz or Noam Chomsky, both of them Ashkenazim who had traditional Jewish educations, the terms of the debate are consistently framed by pilpul. What is most unfortunate about pilpul — and this is something that will be familiar to anyone who has followed the controversies involving Israel and Palestine — is that, since the rational has been removed from the process, all that is left is yelling, irrational emotionalism, and, ultimately, the threat of violence.

    As I have said there really is no Jewish genius…..people sometimes mistake their arguments and writing for intelligence because they don’t understand what’s being said or written and think they arent bright enough to understand it….. the truth is they don’t understand it because its just glibberish babble and verbosity….iow pilpul.

    • Replies: @Dissident X
  101. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Randal

    We are often told that surveys indicate that jewish people supposedly are some of the strongest supporters of freedom of speech as a principle. Well, let’s see some evidence of it, in high profile public renunciation of support for “holocaust denial” laws and genuinely virulent, aggressive and noisy repudiation of the various jewish organisations dedicated to suppressing and even criminalising speech they don’t like.

    Unlikely to happen.

    Instead, what may be a little less unlikely is for the average voter to wake up to the reality that our constitution is under assault, and not just by the Jews. While they are invariably the pied pipers leading the assault on our nation and its people, far too many of our so called elected leaders are full on board with the program as well–bought and paid for whores. If the average American understood what was happening today he or she might wake up and do something about it.

    Our leaders need to start fearing us– that we KNOW that they are, with few exceptions, treacherous slime serving their masters and mammon.

    Will it happen?

    Unlikely without a significant economic shock I fear.

    I can only hope. But as the rot at the core of our so called Republic becomes ever more obvious even to the most obtuse American, battle lines will start to form.

  102. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    That is good description also.

  103. @Art

    Did you keep it? Are you you? Is I. C. now in mental hospital?

  104. renfro says:

    Good example of why Jews shouldn’t be in America.

    Florida Lawmakers Aim to Cancel Lorde Concert, Citing anti-BDS Law
    February 9, 2018

    ”Florida Lawmakers are pushing to cancel Lorde’s scheduled concerts in the state after she cancelled her appearance in Israel to support the BDS movement, according to the Orlando Weekly.
    Florida is one of 20 states that have a law barring state funds from doing business with entities associated with BDS, the movement to boycott, divest, and sanction Israel over the Israel-Palestine conflict. The Florida law states that businesses that receive state funds are prohibited from conducting business over $1 million with any organization engaged in a boycott of Israel.
    Yesterday, Republican state Rep. Randy Fine sent letters to the Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority and the Tampa Sports Authority asking them to cancel Lorde’s appearances there, scheduled for April.
    “Florida has no tolerance for anti-Semitism and boycotts intended to destroy the State of Israel,” said Fine. “Current statutes are clear – local governments cannot do business with companies that participate in anti-Semitic boycotts of Israel. When Lorde joined the boycott in December, she and her companies became subject to that statute. The taxpayers of Miami and Tampa should not have to facilitate bigotry and anti-Semitism, and I look forward to the Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority and the Tampa Sports Authority complying with the law and canceling these concerts.”
    Fine and Speaker Richard Corcoran would like the state anti-BDS law to go further than it does. They are proposing eliminating the $1 million threshold.

  105. renfro says:
    @Incitatus

    Ironically Germany did rebuild itself into the economically strongest nation in Europe..quite a feat for a population whose infrastructure was almost totally destroyed.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  106. Sum says: • Website

    As a fellow right wing American Jew, I couldn’t agree more with this article. Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements. About 25% of American Jews voted Trump in 2016, but I suspect that figure will be higher in 2020 as Jews realize the slander they were fed about him was false.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  107. @Father Coughlin

    schmarotzen has a less clinical connotation as in “moocher”. English translations of NS terms always sound clinical, ignoring the way German terms are always interwoven with more cultural associations.

  108. AaronB says:

    Genius.

    Why have whites proven vulnerable to pilpul?

    European culture seeks to “prove” nothing, but to “deconstruct”. Therefore they don’t understand the psychology of “proving”.

    Also, don’t underestimate the power of what I call “mysterious praise”. I was having dinner with a Jewish friend last week, and he was waxing lyrical about the awesomeness of the Talmud. He couldn’t quite put into words what was so awesome about it, but was going on about how spiritual it was. He couldn’t say how, tho. But he would send me lectures explaining it. He never did.

    The effect comes from implication and mystery. If he had mentioned anything specific, however amazing, the spell would have been broken. By staying vague, it intrigues and seduces.

    Its myth making, and it’s powerful. Imagine if whites would lyrically declaim on the mysterious awesomeness of European culture. They couldn’t quite say what it is, or put it into words at the moment, but there’s no doubt it’s amazing. Some other time it can be explained.

    The effect of that would be completely different from talking about democracy, science, etc. It would elevate European culture to the realm of the sacred and out of the realm of things like democrscy, etc.

  109. @SolontoCroesus

    read the book “Hitler’s Vienna” to get a good overview of the influence of Austrian multiculti on Hitler

  110. @AaronB

    It comes from using argument as a social tactic and not as a way of getting at the truth.

    Well put, and excellent comments in general.

  111. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    That was in response to renfro.

  112. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent piece.
    But my criticism, as always, is with the underlying unworthiness of the concept that the author identifies as being ‘a Jew’.
    I make no excuses for religions, superstitions or tribalisms – they are not positives.
    Judaism is a religion. People of a very wide spectrum identify as ‘Jews’ for a variety of reasons – religious, genetic, cultural, ethnic, philosophical; and some of these categories can overlap (or not).
    But one can no more be born ‘a Jew’ than a Knight of Columbus or Republican.
    Making oneself ‘other’ based on religion or other artificial categories isn’t a good goal, and has caused much misery and confusion.
    One doesn’t need this insular meme in order to use, strengthen and develop whatever natural talents and intelligence one possesses, or to share their fruits with one’s fellows.

  113. @AaronB

    The way Europeans of old, and the fascists, overcame the tendency to analysis was through images. Whether actual images or vague intimations of an otherworldly greatness, they establish independent of analysis transcendent goals to aspire to.

    The future will begin aesthetically.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  114. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon

    “Apart from Wally and Art and a dozen other reflexive anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews on UR … ”
    What’s the problem with being “anti-semitic”? Certainly Jews are anti-gentile.
    The fact of the matter is that ‘Anon’ & those like him are in a state of panic that I & many others have repeatedly shown that the ’6M Jews’ is an impossible lie. Laughable even.

    Being a Jews First, anti-gentile Zionist, he tries the & old decreasingly ineffective ‘anti-semite’ canard. Which will never change the fact that Jews have lied big time about their fake ’6M’ and people are finding out about it.
    From the horse’s mouth:

    “We can force through any lie. It just has to be big enough so that a normal person says, ‘Well that cannot be a lie!’. Then the lie cannot be recognized as such. And the lie has to be repeated continuously. Then it is believed and is powerful because it is the belief in a ‘truth.’”
    - from ‘Propaganda’, by Zionist Jew Edward Bernays

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  115. Wally says: • Website
    @Incitatus

    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a ‘gas chamber’ at Majdanek, at:
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.htmlhttp://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen_files/doorcasting.jpg
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Incitatus
  116. AaronB says:
    @Antlitz Grollheim

    That would be great. Aesthetics gives life meaning. Analysis robs it of meaning.

    Ultimately tho, analysis has its place, but it can’t be the supreme place in any culture. That way lies death.

    We don’t need to swing to any unbalanced extremes. We can enjoy a harmonious and well integrated culture that reflects and satisfies the entire human being. For too long we have been a culture of unbalanced extremes.

  117. It seems that Jews enjoy the masochist side of their culture, where 3000 years of persecutions trouble making around Asia, Egypt and Europe should be enough to make them BUDDIST and just melt away as a freemason society, but then, yes, keep your friends as you like, that’s what everyone does just fine….

  118. @SnakeEyes

    I gave you the troll tag because there isn’t a tag yet for shill. It’s OK, though. You qualify for both.

  119. @Z-man

    He mentions it, but only as a safe haven for when the parasite kills the host and has to flee.

  120. @Art

    ” When the Jews come calling – what is Mad Dog Mattis going to do — rush to war for Israel – or be an American for America?”

    This is a trick question, right?

  121. @NoseytheDuke

    For us to resolve and to identify the responsible people behind 9/11, we must look internally specially amongst the gang of neoconservatives who first have the best interest of Israel in their hearts! They knew that can cheer GWB/Cheney in achieving their goals! But one has to give the neoconservative gang credit because thus far they have accomplished what they had planned!

  122. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Well let’s forget the 6 million while we find out what you do believe and why. The German SS led and Wehrmacht supported Einsatzgruppen undoubtedly existed and operated vigorously from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. They started rounding up and killing Communist officials and Jews and shooting them from the start did they not? Was Babi Yar for example just a rogue exception to the carrying out of Nazi policy under Himmler? So what’s your big point? That American Jews and Israel woke up to the fact some time in the 50s or 60s that they could get a lot of mileage out of the Holocaust for causes they supported? Well, duh! And I’ll concede that the 6 million (with absolutely nothing to do with all those NYT references you keep on copying and pasting**) is a bit of a totemic figure because I can recall a Jewish lawyer I was travelling with as long ago as the 70s pulling me up when I said that I had read something which suggested the figure was more like 4 million. So what?

    **You seem to have latched on to what probably kept on turning up as a convenient figure in the newspapers’ cutting books and archives. It would have been perhaps the approximate number of European Jews circa 1860, the number in Poland by 1913 or 1930 or whatever. Coincidence plus convenience but I can’t even imagine what magical use of it you have in mind. BTW I read somewhere that Martin Gilbert (the Jewish biographer of Churchill) said 78 per cent of Jews under Nazi control had been killed. And he accepted the 6 million I think. That leaves 1.7 million “survivors” out of 7.7 million. Presumably that 7.7 million doesn’t include all Soviet Jews or French Jews in the Vichy south. How do you do the figures?

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    , @Mulegino1
  123. Duglarri says:

    Wow, you think that in the interest of saving the white, European-based domination of the United States, Jews should throw in with the people who are fighting to save the white, European-based domination of the United States?

    Does the fact that those people don’t consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    This does not strike me as a well-considered long-term strategy.

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  124. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Leisure Larry

    What do you think “the Talmud” is? What version are you referring to? And how many Jews study it or regard it as anything more important than a rabbinical commentary on the Hebrew Bible?

  125. renfro says:
    @Anon

    anti-Semites that prove their willingness to generalise negatively about Jews

    It is perfectly legitimate to hold one opinion of ‘the Jewish group, the tribe’ ..iow, generalize…and a different opinion of a Jewish ‘ individual’ .

    There are exceptions in every group….there were likely some cannibals that didn’t eat people but also likely very few. So inviting cannibals into your camp would not have been wise.

    So allowing the Jewish tribe into the US was not wise considering their ingratitude to America and the damage the have done in our government and society.

  126. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Toby Keith

    “Our flat [sic]] IQ distribution”!!! Are you a Hottentot? Or do you just know *absolutely nothing* about what IQ tests measure, how they are scored and how the results are distributed? Why do you think about 2 or 3 per cent of the American population – those with Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry – have about 30 per cent of the Nobel Prizes won by Americans?

    • Replies: @plonialmoni
  127. MarkinLA says:
    @Duglarri

    Does the fact that those people don’t consider you and your people to be white bother you at all? That once done with Mexicans and Blacks, you and yours are certainly on the list?

    Really? What idiotic nonsense. Who is doing what to blacks and Mexicans? You must be some brain-dead black or Chicano studies fool to post this. However, what do you think the blacks and Mexicans think of Jews?

  128. @Anon

    It was that Irishman, Larry Silverstein who said re WTC 7, “we had to make the decision to pull it”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  129. I grew up around White Christians; work with them; live amongst them; and count many as friends, neighbors, colleagues or teachers. Jewish neurosis or not, a generalized Jewish fear of American Whites is, in my view, insane.
    “I have White Christian friends” is a classic anti-White trope. It is like saying “some of my best friends are Jews.” Goy hatred is normal. Try to graft a Goyish organ on a Jew and you will see organ rejection. BTW. You can convert to Christianity, but you cannot really convert to Judaism, it is only make-believe since there is no way to provide a convert with a Jewish soul, at least in the first generation.

  130. @Anonymous

    You are half way there. Soon you will realize that no hijacked planes were intercepted because there were no hijacked planes to intercept.

  131. renfro says:
    @Wally

    Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.
    Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?

    Its in wiki…which is not reliable
    But also quoted in several books, first one to use it in was The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and it seems to have been repeated by others after that.
    BUT….none of the people or books using that quote give a citation or source of how they came by it….so without a source as to how they got what Hitler said, not even a ‘as told to me by’ its hard to say if its accurate or not.

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  132. @Anonymous

    You are saying that Jews should annihilate the rest of mankind. On top of that you are perpetuating a lie as your justification. Who has no shame?

  133. @Anonymous

    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don’t tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  134. Svigor says:

    If that’s true, then Jews don’t know what’s good for them.

  135. @Randal

    During the Cold War Jews were fond of quoting Voltaire in defense of free speech for Communists. They have always been defenders of sexy children’s books, porn and blasphemous art. Apart from that they are the chief force driving the disappearance of free speech in Europe and, as far as possible, here. They also are big fans of pan-surveillance, nanny-government, thought-reform (diversity training etc.) blacklisting, ostracism, draconian punishments for thought-crimes but mild punishments for ordinary murder.
    If you stop to think about it, all these characteristics leverage their strengths and compensate for their weaknesses. They are long on brains and wealth and short on numbers, and they are a religious minority. Their brains and wealth allow them to buy access and apply power at the top. As a former Jewish professor of mine put it, “A man you can buy is a man you can trust. The people you have to fear are the people you can’t buy.”

    Tucker Carlson: The NSA shouldn’t read everyone’s mail.
    Charles Krauthammer: Well, you’re a libertarian.
    Tucker Carlson: I’m an American.

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  136. @Anonymous

    The bullshit never ends, does it? The world is full of self proclaimed
    holohoax survivors. Many of whom seem to have lived into their 80′s and 90′s . It seems to have been quite a keep fit scheme.

  137. Karl says:
    @anony-mouse

    4 anony-mouse > He, but not any member of his household would qualify for the Law of Return

    not really true. The determination is made by the Ministry of Interior bureaucrats, who ==did== let in the spouses and children of the Russian octoroons (or is it octokikes?). Some were only granted Permanent Residence, but all of those who applied for citizenship (lots of Russians never do) eventually got it.

    Just like everyplace else in the world, having an experienced immigration lawyer on your side often gets you what you want, if you are not a flagrant “bad apple”. There’s about half a dozen attornyies in Tel Aviv who only do immigration cases.

    Ask the Filipinos in South Tel Aviv. ‘ Plenty of them are out of status, but none (that I’ve heard of) of them has been deported in 6-7 years. And its now official that originally-got-admitted-legally mothers of kids in a Hebrew-speaking school, will not get deported

    The got-admitted-legally is what diferentiates the Filipinas from the Africans. The africans got here by jumping the fence, as it were

  138. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    1. Your entire comment is predicated upon jewish interests, and jewish interests only. I guess you feel the tribe has enough power now that you can dispense with the pretense of caring about others?

    2. “Better careful than sorry.” Who should take care? Jews killed 20,000,000 gentiles during their first foray into using the Talmud as a governing strategy. So when Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin enthusiastically discuss getting rid of Whites in public my ears prick up. Perhaps jews don’t think we notice they are always front and center for gun grab efforts – even dispensing with the oft used “goy spokesmodel” tactic to avoid fingerprints. That’s how important it is. What exactly do jews have planned that makes them want us defenseless so dearly? Oh wait, I already covered that. Attempt Soviet Union 2.0 at your peril special tribe.

    3. You didn’t comment on White Genocide. So you’re somewhere on the spectrum of “don’t care” to “enthusiastic”?

    But yes….the poor jews. If we selfish gentiles would learn to always put jewish interests ahead of our own, jews and gentiles would get along swimmingly. It’s that simple in jew’s minds. Shoe on the other foot ain’t so popular with y’all.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  139. @bike-anarchist

    Who decides who gets Nobel prizes? (Don’t tell me it is the Swedes. You know better.) As for who disinformed who, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Giuliani knew exactly what they were doing. it is enough to look at who, in the “documentary” said “there was a plane” to understand who was actually pulling it off, and who was standing by to do their share. Guiliani laughed when he ran. Great, profitable, tax-free fun for him. And for everybody. Except the suckers.

  140. @Art

    Good sentiments. Trump like Obama before him is somehow being subverted from peace candidate to just another errand boy. I don’t know what Miller’s views are on the middle east but I share your hunch. What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Art
  141. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @plonialmoni

    Spell out the names and procedures which show, according to you, that tje award giving has been for 80 years or more largely dominated by Jews. You can’t. Anyway there are plenty of other figures correlating high IQ Jews with intellectusl achievement tight up to the highest judicial appointments. And you are not going to support the “flat distribution” nonsense are you?

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  142. @Anon

    Your comments are consistently anti-gentile, and frankly your reflexive racism is disgusting. It’s attitudes like this that led the highly-jewish Bolsheviks to murder 20 million gentiles. The Weather Underground (6 of 7 leaders jewish) planned to build death camps in the SW US where they estimated they would execute another 20,000,000 White goyim.

    Never again! Never again will jews be allowed to murder with such bloodlust. I am planning on becoming the goy Simon Wiesenthal to hunt down these jewish monsters. They will be extradited to Poland for speedy trials and executions. Can you spare some shekels?

    PS – God spoke to me. He said jews misunderstood. It’s Whites that are Chosen, not jews. Please spread the word.

    Shalom.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  143. Miro23 says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Should the knowledge that Jews were a major factor behind the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks ever become widely accepted and reach a tipping point of understanding in America, things will become ugly indeed and, as usual, it is likely the innocent will be the ones who suffer the most.

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason. It was a grandiose attempted coup, and its failure is beginning to look like the tipping point in Jewish power in the United States.

    There was some logic behind it. A small minority ethnic group in any country, holding such a disproportionate amount of power, will always be dangerously exposed (however much they control the political process and the media), so the options were to pull back or to double down.

    9/11 was the attempted doubling down (a Bolshevik style grab for key positions of power) that failed, and post 9/11 has been a desperate scramble to cover their tracks, with all kinds of bad surprises (from their point of view) such a Donald Trump’s “America First” and the flood of out of control information gushing from the internet.

    Also the protective shield of consensus Neo-liberalism is much weaker in 2018 than it was back in the day. The public now sees Neo-liberalism for the package of academic sophistry that it always was – used to justify mass outsourcing and off-shoring of US manufacturing in return for record profits + FED enabled debt for everything (keeping consumers spending + funding $6 trillion wars).

  144. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    I know much more than you, that’s certainly obvious. Science trumps Zionism.
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight the non-uniformed terrorists / ‘partisans’ who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.
    Bab Yar & the alleged 34,000 supposedly shot there is pure propaganda. There are no excavations & human remains to be seen. Statements about it are utterly impossible & contradictory,

    The fake ‘holocaust’ ’6M has a lot to do with the NYT articles from 1869. All the ’6M claims’ are bogus & easily shown s such. They demonstrate that Jew have been faking the cabbalistic number from, well 1869.
    Heretofore their latest Big Lie has stuck. Zionist control of ‘the media’ & ‘academia’ enables such fraud. The Allied military also played along and actually staged events like the absurd ‘shrunken heads, lampshades from humans, soap made from Jews’, etc, etc. since it deflected from the enormous mass Allied WWII war crimes.
    Martin Gilbert? Seriously? He’s been shredded even by those in the mainstream.
    All you have are such things ‘ I heard this, I heard that’. What you heard is scientifically impossible nonsense You’re merely referencing a form of religion, that is very profitable & beneficial to Jews, aka: a scam.
    There simply was no ’6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers’ and there is no proof for them’. You certainly don’t have it.
    All of what you speak has been demolished repeatedly by Revisionist scholars.
    If you really think you know what you’re talking about then debate us, man up. All Revisionists are former believers. http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Only liars demand censorship.

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  145. Sam J. says:
    @Loveofknowledge

    “…I think ultimately there needs to be official recognition of the Jews as being a distinct people but having a permanent place within Western societies…”

    This is a foolish idea. I may not know what’s good for the Jews but I know what’s good for us and that’s to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go by any means possible. We need them out of our countries and with no control over us at all. They have their own country they can go live there. We don’t need one Jew. We have no need of them in any capacity.

    • Replies: @Anon
  146. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    Did your professor tell you the big trick of how to get the bought to stay bought? You provoke the thought however that, in one rather superficial sense you can trust the person you can buy… because you know something valuable about him and his motivations whereas with the apparently unbuyable person and your cynical attitude you are still on the hunt for his eeak point.

    I recall being in on a politicians’ conversation where one said “I think he really might sppoint me to X as he [the leader] has hinted. After all he owes me a couple of favours including saving his political neck way back”. “Yep” says his realistic friend, “but with Y [ the leader]gratitude is a matter of ‘what have you done for me today?’ “.

  147. Sam J. says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Merkel: Germany is guilty of the holocaust.
    If Merkel says so, who are you to doubt the holocaust ?”

    Wally is more credible than Merkel. He has…facts.

    • Replies: @ANON
  148. @Rabbi High Comma

    I do admit I was quite foggy. So my comment I was directed towards Democrats.
    As I am watching Breitbart Most of the rednecks are Pissed of By Democrats because they are blocking the funds for the wall. And most of the rednecks do not want amnesty for DAKA.
    This is the sticking point that can change into spark.

    • Replies: @Rabbi High Comma
  149. Sam J. says:
    @neutral

    “…The jews are absolutely not welcome in the right wing, the real right wing that is. The jews have always been the main enemy of the right wing, any accommodation with jews means you are leftist…”

    Agreed. Our focus should not be on what we have to do to get along with the Jews. It should not be whatever “task” the Jews think we should do to order our society. We don’t need any help, hints or pointers on how to order our society from the Jews. The Jews have no right to lecture anyone on the planet about morality and any advice from them on morality is likely to be wrong. Our focus should be on what we have to do to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but they must go not matter what.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  150. Sam J. says:
    @liz

    “…Seems to me that we folks of European descent should learn from Jewish tribalism, not denounce it…”

    Exactly. We should become more tribal and throw the Jew out. Get rid of them

    “… And make cautious alliances with the tribe…”

    This is where you get it wrong. For thousands of years we’ve tried to do this and they’ve stabbed us in the back every time. When will people learn? It’s best to get rid of them and have nothing to do with them. This has been shown with 100% accuracy to be effective in increasing the wealth, health and happiness of any population that chooses it.

  151. @jack daniels

    Trump knows what he is doing. All wars on Arabs were called out by Presidents.
    According to the constitution it is congress that should be called out the war.
    I thing that Zionist Globalists cannot put a pressure on Trump, because he will relegate the decision on Congress. The Congress is sheepish and it does not want to responsible for the war.

  152. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Yes. OilcanFloyd states the truth.

  153. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “…The “genocide” of the natives in NA was not originally planned by any of the colonizing powers, or the early Americans…”

    The genocide of the American Indian was from disease. Generally small pox, measles and others. 95% of the population died from this. Jewish massacres were deliberate.

  154. @Miro23

    I did Analise it thoroughly. I came to conclusion that it could not happened without Bush2 approval.
    That was the reason why he was reading the Goat story.

  155. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rabbi High Comma

    Are you a troll fully aware of how bizarre such a comment is. If so do you have a purpose in your commenting beyond making mischief. I wonder by the way which of the Anons, anons, anonymouses etc you thimk I am. You don’t seem to have picked that I am descended entirely from residents of the British Isles going back over 900 years.

  156. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    “The Jews”. The way you both use the term is the stuff of fantasy. These are Jewish flavoured spirits concocted in your heads.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Jo
  157. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    And so few of them surely some must be right. (He’s even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsarzgruppen in 1941).

    • Replies: @Wally
  158. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    Thank you Uncle Adolf: I have applauded every time you’ve said it since 1918 and it can’t be repeated too often.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  159. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    As “neo-liberalism” “economic rationalism” or whatever you want to call the continued opening up of markets over the last 70 years had nothing to do with Jews or much to do with banks in most countries you might like to consider it in the light of e.g. many millions of people around the world getting an economic leg up which is what a good Christian would want as long as it didn’t require poverty and starvation for others. The average American hasn’t done well out of the “neo-liberal” opening to the world because of (a) the 1965 Immigration legislation (b) illegal immigration (c) waste in health and pharmaceuticals (d) waste on arms and war (e) an inadequate education system for most (f) subsidies to unproductive minorities (g) union agreements such as those in the motor industry which just about destroyed their employers when facing foreign competition…..not much left for exploitative capitalists to do….

    • Replies: @Miro23
  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    As you didn’t hear Larry Silverstein say any such thing I presume you are left as far from knowing what to make of that hearsay factoid as I am. My first guess would be a tough guy’s black humour and him or his wife saying “OMG! You ought to have seen their faces. [Wife] He got his audience and his timing just right if you like Larry in wicked mode”. Obviously it could have taken 1000 forms but I proffer that as a perfectly plausible version of reality. Then there are alternative interpretations and precise words…. and maybe it meant “pull out” when it was clear it was too dangerous and futile to try and save the building – the “it” being the efforts to suppress the fire.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Robjil
    , @Sam J.
  161. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Democrats?

    Angelo Codevilla’s seminal 2010 essay “America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution” authoritatively invalidated the false RvD dichotomy nearly a decade ago. The true struggle is the Cloud People vs. the Dirt People. The Cloud People (and I will spare you the requisite triple parenthesis) have promised the low status/low agency brown people, sexual freaks, and feminists status if they will help them genocide the White goyim, while opening the borders to as many uneducated brown 3rd world village peasants as they can get away with. Period.

    We hold no allusions about the simmering race war. There’s no need to patronize us. You may feel more comfortable speaking in euphemism, but your emotional needs are irrelevant to the discussion.

    Please know this. Jews hold Whites collectively responsible for every perceived slight/harm – real or imagined – ever to befall a jew due to Whites. That standard may be adopted by us in turn, and it would be valid to hold jews to their own standard.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  162. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    As it would not necessarily be in Speer’s interests to acknowledge that he worked for the man who could order that it would have made sense to ask Speer and no doubt there are records of his being asked about it. Did he deny it? [No,it seems. Its in his memoirs]. I’ve just Googled and of course it wasn’t originally an “order” to Speer. The following suggests there would have been lots of copies of Hitler’s “Nero Decree” floating around even if little action resulting from it and it seems plausible that Speer was put in charge of the destruction ad a way of Hitler backimg fown.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865650213/This-week-in-history-Hitler-orders-the-destruction-of-Germany.html

    • Replies: @renfro
  163. Art says:
    @AaronB

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.

    There is one very important aspect to this winning arguments with lies and untruths – hate. Residual hate for the coercive liar.

    The last sentence of Hitler’s Mein Kampf quote, I did not publish. It is “Gradually I began to hate them.”

    Needless to say, the cultural of Jews who coercively argued with Hitler paid a price down the line.

    When an argument is not truthfully and honorably settled – it is not settled – period. There are negative residual effects.

    Think Peace — Art

  164. @Anonymous

    Hey genius! He’s on the record saying it. You can hear it for yourself, from his fetid mouth to your wax clogged ears and dense bone to your zygote “brain”. Try a simple search, or better still, ask a child to do it for you. You may want to listen to it a few times though as he uses really big words like WE HAD TO PULL IT.

    Toodle pip, Tosser.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  165. @renfro

    Thank you again, renfro, for excellent information.

    Many times I have ruminated extensively on attempting to ‘model’ a particular trend; so it is with the case of these argumentation techniques taught in the Talmud.
    It is very gratifying to find, contrary to the torrent of social prescriptions against even the consideration, that ‘it is so!‘, and my own well-cycled considerations were very accurate.

    Have a better one.

    • Replies: @renfro
  166. Robjil says:
    @Anonymous

    Read Solving 911 by Chris Bollyn. He gives shows lots of evidence of the Israeli deep state’s part in 911. Another clue, Wesley Clark said he saw a memo to destroy seven middle east countries for the 911 false flag. Why seven? Perhaps since it is the same number of nations that Yahweh told the Israelites to destroy to make a greater Israel in Deut. 7:1 in OT. This is very similar to Israel’s Odin Yinon plan for the destruction of nations near Israel. Notice the mantra”seven” appear again with the seven nations ban for immigration. There was lots of protests against the ban. Though, no protests promoted against wars on these seven nations.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  167. Mulegino1 says:
    @Anonymous

    The “Holocaust” narrative is easy to deconstruct when one descends from vague and nebulous generalities, i.e., the pseudo-religious narrative- to specific historical facts and events which are either empirically verifiable or falsifiable.

    With respect to the alleged crimes of the Einsatzgruppen, a perfect example of this is the alleged massacre at Babi Yar ravine outside of Kiev, where, it is alleged, the Einsatzgruppen murdered upwards of 30,000 Jews, buried them inside the ravine, then subsequently exhumed the mass graves and burned them to ashes.

    While it is a documented fact that there were reprisal executions for the terrorist bombings which killed many members of the German occupation forces in Kiev (which certainly involved some Jews and which were not illegal under the international laws regarding the conduct of war in force at that time) there is not a shred of physical or documentary evidence that the numbers of those executed reached the thousands, let alone tens of thousands:

    There are no traces of mass graves or human “cremains” dating from that period commensurate with many hundreds, let alone thousands of victims.

    Aerial reconnaissance photos taken around the time of the “mass exhumations and cremations” of the bodies of the victims show virtually no major disturbances of the ground in the ravine, and no access roads into and out of the ravine. Given the fact that some 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been required for such a massive outdoor cremation, how would the Germans have pulled this off without easy access to the ravine? Also, where are the huge quantities of wood ash?

    Given the fact that the ravine appears to have been used as a place of execution by the NKVD long before the German invasion, and the complete absence of any physical evidence, it is entirely likely that the Babi Yar legend is a completely free invention of the Soviet propaganda machine.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  168. @Rabbi High Comma

    Please do not go there! It is not only unfair it is also dangerous!

    Let me set an example.
    If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  169. Rurik says:
    @AaronB

    Whites are willing to admit they are wrong

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    Believe it or not, Jews think everyone uses argument for social power and not to get at the truth, like them.

    hmm

    so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power’

    wow

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  170. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…it can’t be repeated too often…”

    We do agree on something.

  171. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…These are Jewish flavoured spirits…”

    Are these the same as the Jewish spirits that brought down building 7 on 9-11? As we all know, or should, building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. Meaning since gravity is the same that the build fell as if it were only supported by air. This is of course nonsense so something took all support from the building as it fell.

  172. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    It actually doesn’t matter what he said as building 7 fell with NO support. None at all except air. It fell as if it had no cement, no beams, no columns, no Sheetrock, no nothing but air holding it up.

  173. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “…If somebody attack you with knife or a bat you should watch the knife or the bat and try to take away these weapons from him. To try to convince him not to attack you is not too relevant in crisis or you do not have a time for it.
    So logical conclusion is to go after Democrats….”

    Uhhh…no you should shoot the guy with the knife.

  174. Having listened to the comment about Jews as nonwhites is peculiar. Peculiar because the Jews that most consume western energy are the Jews of Europe — who are in fact almost entirely – white. in fact, the behavior of the European Jews (white) is to exclude those Jews of a darker hue on the claim that they are not jews based on skin color.

    Many if not most of the jews in Israel harbor the same prejudices, and anxieties as white in Europe and the US. I suspect that if Jews were not white, a holocaust might not have been enough to garner enough support to warrant them a return to Palestine.

    as for the Talmud being a sinister way of argument, it is no more tedious or legalistic than catholic catechisms, vedas-upanishads, etc. Religious beliefs are always accompanied by series of principles and dogmas written by humans to help or instruct followers to obey the rules. In western practice those extend to be expressed in very legalistic terms. Someone schooled in the same is going to develop a means of thing and expression in much the same manner. Buddhism, like hinduism has a long line of scholars or recognized authorities explicating what their beliefs mean in real terms in less legalistic rhetorical form. If anything it is the rhetorical gymnastics from this form that enables jews to excel in law, medication, philosophy, and psychiatry and finance, this all intense focus on details and how to advance them or get around them. People, get irritated with lawyers not because they are jewish, but because anyone schooled in technical fields of linguistics tends to hyper rationalize everything. It is this skill or bane that justifies torture, interventions, police misbehavior
    all manner of human interaction.

    What’s great about the article is that it includes the the influences of Babylonia and Muslim influences. How the author gets to the conclusion about emotionalism is bizarre. He merely jumps to that conclusion based on the Talmudic form of explicating Old Testaments scripture for the purposes of linking the mundane to the supernatural. If anything strict adherence to the style, leads to a very pedantic, technical and tedious series of explanations of how to behave in order to be in good standing with God. One can certainly become emotional — but the authors conclusion doesn’t have much support, if any.

    Christ makes the following contention (one need not believe in Christ to get the point – but he was a jew schooled in the talmud tradition):

    “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.”

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22&version=AKJV

    Thus so entwined in the details as to miss the larger meaning the details are intended to express. pulpil is actually avoided — connecting this life to God’s intent is missed because the weight is vested in the details as opposed to the larger meaning. its the hyperventilating on details which causes empasse and perhaps an emotional response. And it was those details that the Jews brought to the table when discussing how to draw territorial boundaries regarding Palestine, arriving with maps, and real estate lawyers, etc. The UN negotiators and the Palestinians were just unprepared for legal technicalities of a real estate debate.

    Details are important, but its not uncommon to miss the overall point by hyperventilating on details.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @renfro
  175. Sam J. says:
    @Robjil

    “Solving 911″ by Chris Bollyn

    Yes this is very good. To make sure though we don’t need to read anything to see building 7 fall as if it were supported only by air. That does it right there. You need no other truth that there was a demo or bombing of some sort on 9-11. Unless you’re going to come up with some story that the support of buildings can vanish due to terrorism or some other such nonsense. Not that I doubt the Jews lying ability. It’s quite extraordinary but this would be difficult for even them.

    They have tried but were unsuccessful.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  176. A finer tuned meaning of the term pil pul

    a method of disputation among rabbinical scholars regarding the interpretation of Talmudic rules and principles or Scripture that involves the development of careful and often excessively subtle distinctions.

    http://archive.fo/3t5oi#selection-991.0-1171.13

  177. Sam J. says:
    @Rurik

    The probably silly assed Jew Rurik (from another location) thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie. Actually what he’s proved is that I, Sam J., have come up with the only sure fire, 100% guaranteed method of solving all our problems with the Jews. This has been tried before and has NEVER fail to work. Get rid of the Jews. Deport them. Make sure they have no say over your future. This has been proven to raise the spirits of the people, make children happy, increase the prosperity of the country and raise the over all well being of the country.

    The Jews have been thrown out of every single country they’ve ever been to in any numbers for exactly the same reasons I’m saying we should throw them out now. Why waste more time on these people when it’s inevitable that they will be thrown out. Get ahead of the curve. Throw the Jews out now.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  178. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Is that a crib from the tutorial papers for the clear thinking test for provisional entry to community college?

    gosh

    that’s the most hilarious and biting commentary I’ve ever read

    willingness to generalise negatively about Jews

    about Jews, or about something specific that some Jews either did or are doing?

    “I wouldn’t bother inviting Jack and Mary to dinner with the British Ambassador. She’s so anti-English. I think it’s got something to do with the loss of her family’s gold mine in South Africa**”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Oppenheimer

    **analogy to 1920s Germans and others blaming Jews for their financial woes is not accidental.

    some Palestinians also have a good reason for being suspicious of Jews.

    If you were to ask me, should Stanley Fisher have been appointed to vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, well I may very well have wondered why an Israeli Jew, born in Rhodesia, should be the person to trust with the US Treasury, I might have balked, and wondered at his loyalties.

    Would that make me a de facto anti-Semite? Because the whole notion is that you are not allowed to question or criticize Israeli Jews, or it’s proof that you’re an anti-Semite, yes?

    Just as you’re not allowed (if you’re a goyim) to criticize anything Jews do collectively, like shoot children in Palestine for target practice (or fun), or alter our immigration policies; or = it means you’re an anti-Semite who hates all Jews (simply because they follow a different religion).

    Why is “anti-Semitic” not a perfectly good generalisation about others’ generalisations, like equivalent reference to anti-business, anti-Catholic, anti-American, anti-black, or any of a thousand other prejudiced attitudes?

    for one because, like ‘racist’ it’s become so overused as to be laughable.

    and, its always used as a smear to mislead and demonize, rather than inform.

    if you wanted to say that some KKK imbecile somewhere hates all Jews, and believes ‘the blood of Christ be on them’ all, for all eternity, and won’t talk to them or associate with them because they’re all bad, then fine. I’ll concede that there really might be actual ‘anti-Semite in the world.

    But 99,9999959939929 percent of the time, the smear is used to demonize their victims and benefit Jews at the expense of others who often have valid criticisms of some things that some Jews do.

    K?

  179. @EliteCommInc.

    I was thinking that Budhism is a meditation to separate your soul from your body.
    When you do it you have achieved Nirvana. The trouble with it that how you convince your spectators that your soul did leave your body?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  180. Rurik says:
    @AaronB

    European culture seeks to “prove” nothing, but to “deconstruct”. Therefore they don’t understand the psychology of “proving”.

    yea, right

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

  181. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “…there was no Jew fighting in WW1 for Germany…”
    Actually, there were Jeiwsh fighters.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  182. Rurik says:
    @Sam J.

    thinks he’s so clever taking what someone says completely out of context and printing it as one big lie

    umm..

    dickhead, this is what I said:

    I wondered, was this referring to being wrong in some specific context, or rather in some fundamental and endemic way.. ?

    how is that taking what he said out of context?

    and your ‘solution’, is petulant idiocy

    it’s enough that we begin to question the motivations of some Jews when they demand Eternal Wars for Israel, and open borders for white nations, and wonder if there may be ulterior motives that they’re not divulging. No more duel citizens in positions of power, for instance.

    Such things are prudent, (if occasionally unfair) developments which have resulted from the ZUS (and others) having been been burned too often by treachery.

    as someone posted above, the attempt to ban a musician from performing because she supports BDS, are things that will raise the level of hatred for disloyalty (to the US, as opposed to Israel uber alles)

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  183. annamaria says:
    @Issac

    “…and grew our population like never before…”
    – by creating a supremacist state? Time to apply to Israelis living abroad the same rules that Israelis apply to non-Jews in their country of Israel. Imagine the squealing!
    By the way, you live in an ancestral homeland of Palestinians who are the true descendants of ancient Jews, unlike your ridiculous Mielkovsky (Bibi), thuggish Avigdor Lieberman, fanatical and hateful Scharansky (a model for Bush the lesser), and the pious and obnoxious haridim that do not recognize the state rules but only talmud. And yes, Israel has also created the largest Ghetto. Moreover, your ziocon tribe is guilty of planning and initiating the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East. Four million people died since 1999, among them hundreds of thousands of children. But as a Jewish woman pronounced, this “worth it.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

    • Agree: RobinG
  184. annamaria says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    When will we hear the condemnation of Kagans’ clan by the Lobby? The Ukrainian project has produced a rise of neo-Nazism and resulted in the rise of hate against Jews and Jewish culture: https://www.jta.org/2018/01/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-ukraine-had-more-anti-semitic-incidents-than-all-former-soviet-countries-combined “Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined”
    When will Israel investigate Israeli citizen Kolomojsky for his open financing the neo-Nazi troopers in Ukraine? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/25326-ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers ” …the Azov fighters do more than wave a Swastika-like flag; they favor the Wolfsangel flag of Hitler’s SS divisions, much as some of Ukraine’s neo-Nazis still honor Hitler’s Ukrainian SS auxiliary, the Galician SS. A Ukrainian hero hailed during the Maidan protests was Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera whose paramilitary forces helped exterminate Jews and Poles.”

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @SolontoCroesus
  185. Sam J. says:
    @Rurik

    “…so white people are fundamentally dishonest while Jews are the opposite and use argument to get at the truth, unlike whites who use it for social power’…”

    Oops. Sarcasm. I approve. I missed the context somehow. My apologies.

  186. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Sum

    Our reputation is abysmal on the internet right, and more Stephen Miller-like figures are needed to prove we can be a major asset to right wing movements.

    Agreed. If more and more Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement. Absent a signficant change in this direction anger towards the Jews will be magnified and our so called Republic will continue to be degraded.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  187. Wally says:
    @ANON

    “And so few of them surely some must be right. (He’s even got some embarrasing ones hidden under his rotting factoid heap like the policy which let loose the Einsatzgruppen in 1941).”

    I suggest you pay attention and stop showing your ignorance. Frankly, you’re in over your head.
    As is previously stated:
    The Einsatzgruppen were formed to fight non-uniformed terrorists / ‘partisans’ who were illegal under international law. Of course Jews & others within the terrorists were shot, legally so, they were engaged in combat with Germany. They were not shot just because they were Jews.

    The corrupt ‘Holocau$t Industry’ now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
    Is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    more here:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=einsatzgruppen

    Also search & debate here, IF you think you really know what you are talking about: https://forum.codoh.com
    Revisionists, all former Believers, are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  188. L.K says:
    @Miro23

    miro23

    I don’t doubt that one day the full story will be common knowledge, and taught in schools as the Great Treason.

    I do doubt. After all, many decades have gone by and 99.9% of zamericans probably don’t know about the USS Liberty…

    Organized Jewry obviously dreads the day a substantial % of the zamerican populace found out that not only the official 9-11 account is false, but that the Zionists were the ones who did it.

    US Marine Corps veteran, Vietnam veteran, graduate of the US Army War College & a Director of Studies at the US Army War College for over 5 years, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, says that after studying the facts surrounding 9/11 he is 100% certain that ISRAEL DID IT.

    @1:14 more or less, Dr.Sabrosky says that if the American people find out about it, Zionism and Israel are finished.”it’ll be a brutal war, and they are gone”..
    Listen to what he says:

    So, very high stakes for these folks, and they’ll use all their power – which they have a lot of – so the Zamerican people never find out the truth.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  189. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    The JTA? Seriously?
    Why would you cite a ‘news’ source that is by it’s very nature extremely biased, Zionist, utterly unreliable, & is obviously agenda driven?

    antisemitic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    http://www.codoh.com

  190. Robjil says:
    @Sam J.

    The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits. The culprits left their fingerprints all over the place. We just need a real “free” press to put pressure on questioning of these culprits.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  191. renfro says:
    @Anonymous

    I would be very surprised if there were no relevant footnotes. Are you sure? How can you be?

    Yes I am sure. Did extensive goggling of quote and where it did come up was mostly in books that you can read on gogglebooks so I did….in none of the books where it appeared were any citations or any footnote for the quote given.
    None of the other sites where the quote appeared gave citations either.
    Whether Hitler said it or not no one seems able to attribute it to any source.

    If it came from Speers autobio none of them are citing his book as the source.

  192. @annamaria

    I do like you, but probably could red my comments a little bit more carefully.
    I only summarized what Hitler has written in Main kampf.

  193. renfro says:
    @Dissident X

    Welcome D

    If you want a good example of this:

    “”When a text appeared to be saying one thing, the Tosafot — in order to conform to the already-existing custom — would re-interpret it by saying that what it seemed to mean is not what it really meant!”

    Then read some David Brooks columns in the NYT……he twist himself into a pretzel to disguise what he is actually saying.

  194. @OilcanFloyd

    The land is still stolen…

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  195. Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire,
    Jews are best servants, they are the most precise and conscious and hard workers.
    But alas! they are the worst and most destructive lords.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  196. polskijoe says:

    What is Millers views on Israel?
    How many billions should the US send them?

    You see the vat majority of Jews in the US fall under three groups:
    New Left, Liberal, Neocon.
    The number combined is about the same or larger as Africans-Americans voting for Obama.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  197. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today

    I came across the below back in 2010. Jewish politicians using earmarks for Jews and Israel.
    This is what Jews do shovel our money to the Jews and Israel.
    And this was at a time when uninsured and underinsured Americans were standing in line at free clinics run by private doctors on their own dime.

    http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny05_ackerman/PR_032609.html

    Congressman Ackerman Announces FY 2010 Project Requests

    (Washington, DC) – In compliance with House rules and the Democratic Majority’s pledge to increase the transparency of the appropriations process, Congressman Ackerman announces the following project requests that he has received for consideration and submission in the FY 2010 appropriations process

    #American Friends of Ashdod Emergency Medical Center (Brooklyn, NY) – Medical Facility in Ashdod, Israel – $10,000,000 – Funding would be used to construct a medical center in Israel’s fifth largest city.

    # American Committee for Shaare Zedek (New York, NY) – Pediatric Nephrology Unit (located in Jerusalem) – $1,500,000 – Funding would be used to enhance the Pediatric Nephrology Unit which treats children suffering from kidney failure by supporting renovation and acquiring new equipment for the expansion of services

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    , @Sam J.
  198. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Found it easily of course. But so what? My point remains untouched. It apparently didn’t inspire anyone to ask clarifying questions which is odd if it was sinister. What is he saying happened? Even if it goes beyond saying “we stopped trying to save it” again? sp what. You don’t get close to proving that the destruction of WTC 7 was part of any intelligible 9/11 plot. There is no reason to believe its most probable explanation was other than as an accidental add on to the big plan’s results.

  199. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @polskijoe

    Your figures for Jews v. African-Americans who voted for Obama don’t make sense. What sre your actual figures and what is your comparison intended to convey?

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  200. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    i think its broader. I am not a Buddhist. But i do know that there are varying schools of Buddhism, each with their unique dogma of explication bridging the existential to the mundane to help those people who believe or practice those philosophies guides to best achieve nirvana — they would challenge my use of the term dogma, but but each has their catechisms or Talmuds of sorts.

  201. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    As you refer to what it takes to burn bodies can you expand our edecation by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won’t burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Wally
  202. @Anonymous

    Please do not talk about technical things. You come through stupid. Please trust me.

  203. @renfro

    I have absolutely no issues with noting how various donors use their money to unduly influence US law makers to put the Interests of Israel before the US or the use what they call common interests without space between them.

    I think this is a very valid concern. While I do believe Israel has a right to exist and deserves her own self defense as all states do have a right to sovereignty. I am deeply concerned that we have law makers who think it appropriate to stifle or punish critique of any country including their own.

    Notes: the reference is new testament
    my only challenge is in the use of the term pil pul to a leap of emotionalism as opposed to the
    actual application – technical explanation of the spiritual to the mundane and teasing out
    meaning of both to aide understanding and practice of jewish believers.

  204. renfro says:

    Here’s another Jew scam to outrage you. This is what Jews do.

    The American Heritage Abroad was created to keep up graves and memorials to Americans killed in wars and buried overseas. But that’s not what its doing. It was a Jew scam from the beginning and the worst part is it hasn’t been shut down yet in spite of the scandals it has been embroiled in.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/

    The Commission is an agency of the Government of the United States of America separate from any other agency. The Jews who run it now claim it was set for jews.

    American Hertiage Abroad was created by US Public Law 99-83 below—-it says not one word about jews, jewish graves or the holocaust..iow it was intended to keep up mainly the graves of americans killed and buried overseas in wars.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/United%20States%20Code%20Title%2054%20Chapter%203123_Law%20establishing%20Commission.pdf?ver=2016-03-17-023726-900

    Now click on the Projects link below to view their projects…which are 99% Jewish, no American non Jewish servicemen graves covered. In fact most of their projects don’t even involved Americans , they are for Jews born and died in foreign countries…not American born.

    http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Projects

    Now read this letter 10 page letter to the head of America Abroad from congress detailing how they have been spending our money..lavish trip, salaries of $`104,000 for one days work a week, setting up and running a lobby group bringing in more than 1.7 million a year for foreign interest and on an on…it will blow your mind.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sam J.
    , @Wally
  205. @annamaria

    You’re haranguing the wrong person, annamaria.

    Nuland-Kagan should be condemned in her own right, not least by Americans, for violating the sovereignty of the Ukrainian people and state.

    The involvement of “neo-Nazis” sounds to me like Nuland-Kagan’s idea of a smug joke.

    The Saker posted a video of Stephen Cohen explaining how Putin sliced-and-diced Stalin/Communism to make it palatable to ‘new Russia’ without totally condemning Stalin; Putin accomplished this by placing the burden of criminality on Germans. How original.

    In my view, pearl-clutching condemnation of neo-Nazis !! is the equivalent of tattooing a banner on one’s forehead that says, I am Stupid, and I got that way by watching teevee.

    Such persistent and knee-jerk reactions are dangerous because they are devoid of critical thought and analysis; as such, the people who succumb to the mindless reaction will remain hopelessly unaware of how their own culture and liberties are being undermined.

    In my view, we need more people, not fewer, who are articulate “neo-Nazis.”

    • Replies: @Robjil
  206. Mulegino1 says:

    Bodies “with fat on them” do not burn on their own. If flammable liquid is poured on them, they will catch fire and be scorched, but they will not be reduced to ashes.

    In order to burn a single body on an outdoor cremation pyre takes approximately 165 kilos of dried cured firewood and takes hours to accomplish; modern, state of the art crematory retorts take at the very least one hour to cremate a single body, perhaps much longer. Successful cremation can only be achieved under very precise thermal limits. If the fire or, in the case of the heated air generated by conventional crematory ovens is too hot, the body will become rubbery and will not be reducible to “cremains” and if the fire is not hot enough, the body will simply be scorched and the fire extinguished.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  207. renfro says:

    PLEASE PEOPLE….TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY.

    Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down in Germany and the holocaust and religious babble, they love that better than a pig loves mud.

    But you are not going to win the war that way….you have to keep up with and expose what they doing now, from taking our money to luring us into wars for fighting their ME competitors, to controlling our congress, to undermining our constitution and free speech, to interfering in our trade policies, to attacking our white European founders, to rallying blacks to attack whites and destroy American historical monuments, to having books unflattering to Jews banned from public reading.

    O.K. now you can go back to your useless arguing about the past that you cant do a g’damn thing about. Guess you don’t really want to get the Jews out of our business…..maybe you want them to hang around after all.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Sam J.
    , @L.K
  208. @36 ulster

    Look you said a lot of things many of us have been wanting to hear for so long and yeah we notice the stephen millers but for every one of them there’s not a time wise there’s a hundred thousand tim wise. Youre right it was and is insane to treat us like the enemy, and its definitely good for the jews to stop doing that now that its apparent we are about to lose our shit on the left.But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again. and i think the only way to find out will test you beyond your breaking point.so you might be better just slipping out quietly now. theres physically speaking no reason the jews that have been with us for a couple thousand years are any less white than say greeks. and you have contributed as much as any other ‘whites’ to west civ. but you have never seen yourselves as such and so we can never see you as such.I dont worry when the greeks are worrying about whats good for the greek i tend to cheer their cultural preservation on as a conservative i like to see culture which is always granular preserved.I even cheer the hasid warring with the hipster chicks in williamsburg, But thats not what we are talking about. part of what makes you jews jews is this uber otherness, and while it can be admired in a lot of ways it means i can never not understand jews 2% having half the power and half the wealth is an other overclass, and that’s simply untenable. It can not stand.so along with taking hits this late in the game by SJWs are you willing to end your jewishness, whats needed is to obliterate the ability to think of ones self as jewish, that must be illegal and jews must be forced to marry out and until sufficiently blended genetically not allowed to hold positions of national interest.maybe if you had written what you wrote and it was taken up by a majority of jews a few decades earlier but what you have done is worse than the holocaust by orders of magnitude, and frankly your war with germany was as far as I can tell the exact same situation you overstepped their subverted their culture and economy and then tried to export your murderous revolution from russia and got a sound thrashing. So what this time you see the reaction coming and think like moldbug youll form a loyal opposition to yourself like some munstein by proxy no thanks unless yopure willing to be subsumed into white dna once and for all just please leave

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  209. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    Ah there’s life in 9/11 still, when it seemed dead. You say there was a failed coup. Now that just about beats all the other fantasies I have heard put together. Pray spell it out for us!

    The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse due to fire. By now the evidence is overwhelming, but the government still insists that it did fall due to fire. Why are they lying?

    There’s also a great deal of evidence that the other two towers didn’t collapse due to fire either , but the government insists that they did. So again, why are they lying?

    The detailed 9/11 story arrived in the media perfectly formed and at full volume almost as the planes hit. How was that possible? Where were the doubts, investigations, alternative theories etc. The propaganda was ready to go on the signal.

    And the government lied about events down in Florida prior to 9/11. Supposedly the Arab pilots crept into the Florida flight schools unseen and fooled everybody, when in fact, it was quite the reverse. They were on CIA run airfields and everyone down there knew they were special and were being shepherded through a process. Normal legal/documentary hurdles didn’t apply and the police were not allowed to touch them.

    OK, 9/11 was a big lie. It was the organized murder of 3000 Americans aimed to trigger the War on Terror but still no Coup.

    The doubts come from other events in Florida.

    [MORE]

    On the morning of 9/11 a van full of supposed Arab newsmen arrived at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort claiming to have an appointment for a poolside interview with George Bush (who was staying there), but was out jogging at the time (and security blocked them). They left and disappeared.

    Later that day, after the towers were hit, Bush was rushed onto Airforce One and was greatly frustrated to find that he was completely out of contact with Washington for hours, supposedly through a combination of security/technical problems. It should have been Bush who took charge of events, but in fact he was excluded, while the US for an afternoon became an Emergency Dictatorship under Cheney along with the Neo-cons. If the MSM, and the CIA knew that 9/11 was about to start then so did they, and they also knew that the towers were coming down and were positioned for it.

    Daniel Hopsicker’s opinion after looking at everything that happened in Florida, is that the fake “Arab” newsmen were in fact linked to 9/11 (too much of a coincidence) and the visit was a failed assassination attempt. If Bush had been assassinated by “Arab terrorists” on the morning of 9/11, that would have left Cheney and the Neo-cons with absolute power in US under an Emergency (COG Continuity of Government) regime.

    Source: Daniel Hopsicker’s, “Welcome to Terrorland” https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Terrorland-Mohamed-Cover-up-Florida/dp/0975290673/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518391092&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=welme+to+terrorland

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sam J.
  210. Art says:
    @jack daniels

    What strikes me above all about Miller is how robotic he is. He answers every question with boilerplate.

    jack daniels,

    Good observation – that is a sign of cleverness – not wisdom. Red meat partisan one liners are always suspect.

    Miller could be a whole lot of “pull the wool over their eyes.”

    Think Peace — Art

  211. Jo says:
    @Anonymous

    “Many persons pass for normal, and indeed for highly valuable members of society, who are incurably mad.” Herman Hesse

    “The Jews are an incurably bad people, a people always seeking its own benefits and wanting to enslave the world, a people which in spite of all its efforts to assimilate, still remains strange and hostile to the non- Jews. The Jew is the torchbearer of capitalism, exploitation, usury, and suppression. At the same time, he is also the yeast of history, upsetting and destroying all that is stable, the troublemaker incarnate. In short, the Jewish people is the curse of humanity.”
    Nahman Syrkin 1898, In: The Zionist Idea, pp 337

    “Once he finds out who he is, what can Console him?” Calderon

  212. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As you refer to whst ot takes to burn bodies can you expand our education by elaborating on your dried cured wood version and explaining too why piled up bodies with fat on them won’t burn well enough once the fire is started with inflammable liquid?

  213. @Anonymous

    Your point remains untouched only as long as one is dense enough, or in your case deceitful enough, to leave out the FACT that the destruction of WTC7 was a blatant controlled demolition.

    Keep your hand lotion and issues handy, tosser.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  214. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Well, thanks. It hangs together as well as a good thriller and I hope the Netflix version makes you a fortune.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  215. @Anonymous

    First, please expand upon your own edication. Please!

    • Replies: @ANON
  216. @bike-anarchist

    And I’m sure you would give it all back to the natives and go back to wherever your ancestors came ftom, if you could. Sure!

    FWIW, the hospital I was born in is on land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  217. Ragno says:
    @AaronB

    Well said, but…… I wonder what sort of reality you live in. From the tone of your remarks, you would think that whites can openly converse in this manner anywhere in the public square – discuss and argue the major issues, and the short- and long-range trajectory, of white society in majority-white nations, without fear of censorship or criminalization or overnight Unperson status. Now me, I see nothing of the kind; further, I no longer see even the pretense of gentile self-determination as anything but a cautionary horror story Jews tell each other – and their favored-nation minority “purse puppies” – around the metaphoric campfire, to reinforce once again the absolute necessity of maintaining complete control of public information and allowable discourse.

    “Jews are beginning to ….offer their sympathy and aid, out of fear….classic tactics when you’re losing” just seems like further delusion; if anything, such a diagnosis smacks more of the psychological coping tactics of a beaten people too addicted to their rapidly-dwindling levels of both creature comfort and self-respect to honestly audit their situation and future prospects, and acknowledge that they are rapidly-dwindling.

    Without regaining control of our institutions, and the vigorous exercising of our cultural hegemony inside our immediate spheres of influence – our nations, certainly, but first and foremost our communities, our streets, our homes and our relationships with one another, you may rest assured that any outsider’s “sympathy and aid” will be just as genuine as their “fear”. Who could possibly fear a people so myopically passive-aggressive that they can be talked out of their self-interest and conned into surrendering their natural sovereignty…for ANY reason….and without a shot fired?

    Possibly the Martians, or a colony of Shmoo – but no canny desert tribe of any stripe would see anything but easy pickings.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  218. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Performing your cleverest truck sgain. Hmm. And what do you take from his apparently random tossing in of 5,000,000 kilograms of dried, cured [sic] wood? Snorting about random BS is one obvious reaction. But isn’t it more civilised to put him on the spot with polite questioning?

    Did you “cure” your firewood in your youth?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  219. @Mulegino1

    Nacis made them drink a hard liqueur and than it worked, Like bottle or two.
    (Obviously you never heard about spontaneous combustion,)

    • Troll: L.K
  220. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Apart from the FACT that fires burning all day almost certainly produced a weakening of the reduced standards lightweight steel framing in WTC7 so it was reasonable to fear the same outcome as had occurred earlier with the Towers that had been apparently weakened by heat what is so blatantly clear? Where do you say explosives were placed for the “controlled demolition”?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  221. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    That all sounds scandalous. To help readers follow up readily can you wuote or link the speeches in Congress or accompanying explanatory memoranda that explained the purpose of the legislation?

    • Replies: @renfro
  222. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K

    Alan Sabrosky in that video sounds like an old codger well into age related dementia. So what that a middle ranking military educator goes gaga and grandiose and expects us to accept his ipse dixit?

  223. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    This will annoy you.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-12/babi-yar-melbourne-resident-one-of-survivors-nazi-massacre/8893804

    Interesting reference to red hair. That might be from the Khazars? My red facial hair came from the Celts but apparently some Khazars had red hair. (Basically the Khazar contribution to the Ashkenazi gene pool is negligible…. but still :-)

  224. AaronB says:
    @Ragno

    Everything changes. Nothing lasts. Elites come and go. Political orders rise, then crumble. Peoples decline, then rise again, then decline.

    What seems so solid one day, seems like a dream the next.

    The Jews had a good run. But nothing lasts.

    In a sense, the new political order is already emerging. The comments you see are a reflection of a shift that has already happened.

    Jewish tactical intelligence is already in decline, and they are sticking to old tactics that no longer work. It’s a bad sign.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  225. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    “… Jews started to speak honestly about the disasters that have been imposed and continue to be imposed on Western nations and their people by multiculturalist and frankly anti-gentilist Jews there is hope for some sort of rapprochement…”

    There is no rapprochement. Don’t you know anything of history? How can you not know the attempts for thousands of years to “get along”” with the Jews? How can you not know the effects of Jews on any society they go to? How can you think this is different this time? This is the same type of talk that Alcoholics and drug attics use. That “this time” will be different. What the Jews are doing works for them. it doesn’t work for the US or any other country they control, but it works for them. The only known method to deal with the Jews that has been tried and worked is to get rd of them. Move them away form you. Have no contact quoth them. Some have said that if we change on some way we can accommodate them. I say this is futile. We are not like them. We do not want to be like them. Ruthless, heartless and cruel. We don’t want that so we must eject them from our society so we can become better. We don’t need them in any way. They add only negatives to our society not positives. Any positives the Jews “claim” to add are minimal, mostly just extensions of our present capabilities in the first place and likely to be twisted in some deviant way as they have little control over their lust.

  226. @ANON

    Your total confusion is again on display with this comment. Try to concentrate, perhaps it would help if you only trolled one person at a time.

  227. Sam J. says:
    @Robjil

    “…The only way we will know how these buildings fell is to question the culprits…”

    This is not true. A complete and total falsehood. We know the building were demoed in some way because building 7 fell as if only air held it up. Building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped in air. There are only two variables to something falling. The influence of gravity and the medium that provides resistance to the object falling, in this case air. The rock and the building fell the exact same speed. Gravity is of course the exact same on rocks, buildings or whatever. So if the rock was falling in air and the building fell the same then the buildings fall was only resisted by AIR just like the rock. We don’t need anyone to tell us one damn thing about this. We know. We know this. It’s no super secret. You can see it for yourself. We just need to arrest those that had anything to do with the security of the building and all the people who had control over them.

  228. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “…Here is the truth about Jews, And please listen carefully,
    Jews are like fire…”

    No they are not. They are like strychnine or poison gas. They serve only as uses of destruction. They have no other value. This is why we should eject them form our societies.

  229. Sam J. says:
    @renfro

    “…I believe you are a Jew pretending to be some Old Testament Christian..lol
    So every time you post your Old Testament babble I am going to post some information that deals with the Jewish problem today…”

    My friend this is an excellent response to their never ending smoke screen chatter.

  230. pB says:

    But there is another response to the question “what is good for the Jews?” that is also worth serious consideration by American Jews. The response is: who cares? Seriously, look at the current state of Jews in America. Jews have an extremely disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group in the country. I don’t allege any conspiracy here. Jews’ tendency to position ourselves close to power is well described in Benjamin Ginsberg’s The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State. Jews have high IQs and are excellent verbalists, and obviously Jewish nepotism exists as well.

    completely blind,

    what is good for the jews? “who cares”? the jews care, they care and they ask that question every day, and that is how they got their “disproportionate share of control over the media, entertainment industry, banking and financial sector, law, medicine, academia, and important policy-making institutions. ”

    as a jew myself i find this article hilarious,

    * jews have huge power and influence in our society,

    * they acquired this power and influence by doing certain things.

    *the base of the party i am shilling for does not like those things the jews did to acquire power and influence

    *soultion? the jews stop doing what they did to gain power and influence and begin advocating a policy that will strip them of power and influence and that is perfectly ok because the jews are powerful and influential so they should not worry about losing their power or influence.

    the only thing powerful and influencal people care about is increasing their power and influence

  231. Sam J. says:
    @renfro

    This scam is just one of a bewildering amount of scams the Jews are involved in and just another reason we should get rid of the people. The only solution to our Jew problem is to get rid of them. It takes too much effort to constantly be checking up on them to keep them form acting in despicable ways. It’s much easier to just get rid of them.

  232. Sam J. says:
    @renfro

    “…TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON WHAT THE JEWS ARE DOING TODAY…”

    Actually we shouldn’t even do that. We all know they are a despicable, lying, back stabbing, deviant, tribe of psychopaths and what we should really concentrate on is how to get rid of them. We should do so peacefully if we can but they have to go no matter what. We should get together the best minds we have and think of a way to drive off the Jews forever.

  233. Sam J. says:
    @Colleen Pater

    “…But i dont know at this point you guys can ever be trusted again…”

    Well I know. For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not even in the slightest.

  234. renfro says:
    @Anonymous

    There is no legislation or any congressional investigation, just the complaints….that is the point….it is being allowed to continue because of…..jew bought politicians…..same old same old.

  235. Sam J. says:
    @Miro23

    “…The first piece of evidence is that WTC Building 7 didn’t collapse due to fire. ..”

    Hell no it didn’t collapse by fire. Let’s make sure that what happened is 100% understood. The building fell exactly as if it were held up by AIR. This means it fell the same speed as if you magically suspended all the buildings parts in the air then dropped them. To fall like this the fires would have had to been so hot that they would have has to boil away all the steel and concrete in the building that was holding it up. Well we KNOW that didn’t happen. Most of the glass had no damage at all and any fire that could vaporize steel, (vaporizing steel into a gas is really, really difficult and would take some serious heat), would have melted glass far, far, far sooner then it would melt steel.

  236. Sam J. says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “…land that went back and forth between Creeks and Cherokee before it was settled. Were the Indian nations illegitimate?…”

    95% of all the Indians in North America died off from disease. The land that settlers came to was mostly empty. The Indians weren’t driven off. There was no one there.

  237. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous is a fat Jew liar. There were no massive fires burning all day. The steel weakened would have made no difference as the building fell as if it had NO support not weakened support. This means the fires would have had to burn so hot as to vaporize the steel columns into the same density as AIR.

    It’s makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where they were light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

    Here’s a video of reporters going into building #7 AFTER the North tower supposedly fell on it and destroyed it sufficiently enough for it to collapse completely. Look at :54 you see the #7 for the building on the door.

    Now you’ve seen video of the inside where there is NO massive damage to make all four sides of the building fall. You want pictures of the back? Here’s a picture of the South side of building #7, facing the North tower, after it had fallen. There is no huge gaping hole. There is no massive fire going all the way up the building. So you can’t say it’s the South side and we have plenty of video and pictures of the North side of building #7 pictures with no damage at all.

    Here’ another NIST FOIA released video taken between one and two hours before building #7 fell. There’s around three floors on fire.

    (Watch the reporter pan up at 2:54. You can clearly see the whole building is not on fire. This side shown is the North side of building #7. Later you can see the fires mostly around three or four floors only and in isolated spots.)
    If the fires were hot enough to melt steel then why isn’t the glass in the windows melted? Glass melts at an extremely lower temperature that steel. Ever put a metal can and a glass bottle in a campfire? The glass bottle melts but the steel can will still be intact. These fires were no hotter than a campfire. One last video of all sides from 23 angles also showing the miraculous collapse.

    Fireman retired so now he can talk. He was right next to the damn building. Says,”…there was an explosion and the building came down…”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrpLp-X0ws

    For more info look at a site by some engineers that lay out the evidence.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @ANON
  238. L.K says:
    @renfro

    refro:

    …Arguing over ancient history is not going to do anything to rid us of Jewish influence and their bought politicians and media.

    In fact the Jews want you bogged down…

    Do not agree. According to this kind of logic we should not even bother with 9-11, after all, it is in the past…
    Listen, in terms of history, stuff that happened over a 100 years ago is just “yesterday”, and it heavily affects what is going on today in the world.

    ― George Orwell, 1984
    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    Do some of the Trolls here use these things as an obfuscation tactic? Yes.

    Still worth talking about it, if one does so intelligently.

    Take care

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @renfro
  239. polskijoe says:
    @Anonymous

    According to the stats:

    90-95% of African Americans who voted in the elections, chose Obama.

    Lets compare it to Jews shall we?

    68-78% of Jews vote for Democrat when Obama was there. (Liberal and New Left Jews).
    Around 25% of Jews vote for Republican (almost all of them are Israeli firsters and neocons).

    The amount of Conservative Jews like Paul Gottfried, who attack both the above, is minimal.
    I would bet 10% at most.

    Summary: Most Jews support Israel moderately or a lot. thats 7.5/10 Jews in the US.
    Most Jews are working to bring in more third worlders, want loads of money send to Israel,
    they prefer themselves over being Americans, Most Jews support LBGT, abortions, open borders, and making sure to pressure USA to serve Israel interests.

  240. Sam J. says:
    @L.K

    I agree with both but the salient point of renfrois,

    “… In fact the Jews want you bogged down…”

    Very true. That’s why we should focus on the best way to get rid of the Jews. They will not reform, change in any way. It’s a waste of time to expect otherwise. I see arguing about the past as a way to emphasize this exact point. They’ve been doing the same thing for thousands of years. It works for them. They like it. Look at the joy the Jews here get in twisting truths, throwing us dust to obscure and telling lies. They’re so mentally biased in their own way of thinking they think that this behavior is not noticed or that it is of no consequence to their future. It amuses them. They have no compulsions about exterminating every single one of us if they thought they could get away with it. We must get rid of them to save ourselves. We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    In the end they will not prevail. The reason is that computer power increases are destined to create AI very soon. Like the next 35 years maximum. The AI’s, if they see humans as a threat, will home in on the Jews immediately and exterminate them right away. They will not be fooled by double talk. Will the AI’s spare the rest of us? Maybe if they see us as honest brokers that can be reasoned with and trusted. They will read this very sentence and all the comments here and know the Jews are liars that can’t be trusted. They doom themselves. They’re done. I think that getting rid of the Jews first will provide us more protection by having them safely away from us so we will not be assumed to be a part of their psychopathic society.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  241. @Sam J.

    For thousands and thousands of years Jews have stabbed in the back every single person who has trusted them so the answer is, no they can’t be trusted. Never, not

    That is total stupidity. Jews never harm any individual. (Maybe cheat the individual out of his money but that is all.) That is Jewish tactic. Jews harm and destroy, or at least weaken the society, for the purpose of their, to control the society.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Sam J.
  242. @AaronB

    Actually the cycle itself continues with the elites at very the top remaining there by alternately attaching themselves to different groups at different stages of the cycle thus allowing each group to overreach in turn creating both growth and destruction as required for them to stay in control.

  243. @Sam J.

    We have no option. If they continue to increase in power they will murder us all.

    That is another obnoxious stupidity.

    If that would happen then who is going to work for them negroids?

    More I do look at your comments, more I am convinced that you are a “Jew agent provocateur.”

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  244. renfro says:
    @L.K

    Let me try to explain what I am saying with an example.

    Suppose there’s a man in your community who in his past was accused of stealing or embezzling money but was found innocent and no one has seen any signs of any wrongdoing by him currently so no one pays any attention to his past and chalks up any rumors to old gossip.
    Then one day he is caught red handed embezzling or stealing money and the old accusations against him surface giving even more weight to his being a thief …..the community is even more incensed against the thief now knowing the past accusation were no doubt true and they got fooled by him or them.

    Sometimes you have to work backwards…iow nail them on something today that you can prove and the public sees their criminality or treason in real time and gets outraged about……then once exposed on a today crime, it is easier to go back and expose their earlier evil deeds and the public having seen what he or they did today will readily believe he or they did similar evil things in his or their past.

    Someone can probably formulate a better example but its midnight and I am zonked…so I leave it to them.

  245. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Well they do stab people and groups in the back, they stabbed Britain in the back and the UN in the back and the US in the back…..and more before that.

  246. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “…Jews never harm any individual…”

    HAHAHHA this is what I mean. Such rabid. blatant liars. So casually, so offhand as if, it were nothing. This is why we must get rid of the Jews. They have no morals at all.

  247. Sam J. says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I admit that’s a new one. Grasping at straws now are we? It’s not likely because Jew provocateurs don’t say the Jews are responsible for 9-11, that it’s very likely that Jews control the US legislature by blackmailing the Legislature, that this blackmail very likely consist in some cases of sex with children the Jews kidnap, that the FED is a huge scam that we should get rid of that the Jews control. No it’s not likely that Jew agent would say all these things so directly. He might say portions of each but he would always dress it up in some sort of lie so that it seemed silly and I didn’t just do that. I stated it directly. I could even give you a lot more facts about each but it would turn the comment into a tome. I might later if you keep telling more lies though.

  248. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    Hellooo. A human body is mostly water.

    recommended:

    The Recovery of Human Fat in the Cremation Pits
    By Carlo Mattogno

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3332/?lang=en

    The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau
    By Carlo Mattogno

    https://codoh.com/library/document/921/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. Wally says: • Website
    @renfro

    There are no ‘holocaust’ mass graves as alleged to keep up.

    More of the cited preferential treatment for Jews:

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation.
    In fact the Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.

    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers “loan” that ‘Israel’ receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives” all these huge debts. As if it wasn’t assumed at the beginning.

    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg

    “Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country.”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo

    Fighting Israel’s Wars
    How the United States military has become Zionized

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/fighting-israels-wars/

    ‘Join the US army, Fight for Israel

  250. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    American style free speech is not a mainstream position in Britain. The prosecution of Alison Chabloz would surprise people here even less were the targets of her ‘humour’ any other minority group than Jewish.

    Your attempt to ‘call out’ Jewish hypocrisy by comparing the actions of British Jews to American Jews while neglecting to mention the British context is typical of thise site. One person makes an ignorant but plausible to the ignorant argument. The other maniacs have their prejudices confirmed and chime in their merry agreement.

    To out it simply: were this weird Chabloz woman to sing a similar song but about Muslims in Britain, she’d already be in prison, and her imprisonment would be uncontroversial.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @Maple Curtain
  251. Miro23 says:
    @Sam J.

    It’s obvious by now from many different kinds of evidence that Building 7 and the other two didn’t fall due to fire.

    It’s not a technical question any more, it’s a political question.

    If the government admits that it “got it wrong”, then the focus is very much on what really happened, and a State of Law is obliged to arrest, question an put on trial the perpetrators. It is clearly not able to do this, so in a fundamental way the US is no longer a State of Law (i.e. the 3000 murdered Americans and their families are on their own) and “US Democracy” is just an elaborate film set that can be constructed in any way to spin a narrative that suits its criminal cabal.

    At some point the public are going to realize that they’re a very minor part of “US Democracy”.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  252. yurivku says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Excellent article.

    it is, but these are

    In my view, in 2018 what’s good for the Jews is for us to stop thinking about what’s good for the Jews and start thinking about the right to self-determination and survival for the people we live amongst: the people who have facilitated the most stunning successes of our tribe’s history in diaspora to date, Americans, Europeans, and people of European descent.

    just a wet dreams, they will as always to chop a branch on which they are sittting. They always did.

  253. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    “A human body is mostly water”. Indeed. I’m glad you’ve caught up since I pointed that out in response to one of your previous barely relevant responses.

    • Replies: @Wally
  254. Robjil says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    If one doesn’t want to call it NeoNazism then call it Banderism. Banderism is real in US ruled Ukraine . It is sick and cruel to the bone. During the WW2 era, Stefan Bandera and his team was into killing off any non- Western Ukrainians in their part of North West Ukraine – Galicia. His team did so. Poles were mostly targeted. One of the sick concepts of Banderism of today is killing off pro-Russians. They are considered bugs to be squashed. Why bugs? The Soviet army gave the St. George ribbon to Soviet soldiers as a high military honor. This ribbon has orange and black stripes like the stripes on a Colorado beetle. During Soviet Holidays in US ruled Ukraine, young Banderist thugs regularly attack 90 year olds who wear the St. George’s ribbon. One 9o year old women who was splashed with green paint by these thugs died the next day from the trauma. The Nuland-Kagan team are geniuses in evil. They created a European version of Isis. Banderism is a destructive, violent ideology. It is destroying Ukraine and its people from within just like Isis does elsewhere. It does not create or develop anything. All it does is destroy. It’s ideology is like a mad dog with rabies. Imagine if the Russians did such a coup in Canada. Then, people put in place who have an extremely violent anti-American ideology, which believes Americans are bugs to be killed without trial. This is what is happening in US ruled Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  255. To the poster called “Wally”

    Thanks a lot mate I finally clicked on your links in order to counter you which led me to

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    It was shocking, Paradigm shifting, utterly stunning, the revisionist scholars have delivered such stunning blows to orthodoxy they have blown giant gaping holes (Pun intended it refers to the non existent holes on the roof of Crematorium 2) into the dominant Disney land version of the Holocaust such that the entire narrative has collapsed. No critical consumer of history will take the Holocaust seriously unless it answers the extremely serious questions scholars like Rudolf Germar and that intellectual lion Carlo Mattogno pose. These are serious Historians not paranoid conspiratorial crackpots – please all – read Carlo to get a feel of his outstanding scholarship.

    http://vho.org/Authors/Carlo_Mattogno.html

    But no the orthodox historians act as if nothing has happened to their Disney land fairy tale and they persecute revisionist Scholars – can you think about any other field of knowledge where scholars are persecuted? This shows that the whole field of study has been badly corrupted and that we are dealing with a cult after all for example in physics do particle physics theorists throw string theorists into prison? The revisionist critiques are devastating and honest, revisionists are just adults who walk into the room and raise their hands and incredulously say what the fuck just stop the bullshit, lets go through their critique briefly.

    Auschwitz – if the Nazis really wanted to exterminate Jews using Zyklon B they had the best state of the art weapon with them in the camp the DEGESCH circulating machine which was so sophisticated that you did not even have to expose yourself to Zyklon B you just placed the can into the machine which automatically removed the cover and circulated the gasses through a sophisticated blower, but NOOOO the stupid SS decided to knock holes in the roof (Krema 2 & 3)
    and use a wire mesh column to gas the victims an utterly stupid way to gas the victims because the wire mesh would impede the circulation of the gases and the pellets would clump together not to say that the panic stricken victims would always damage the wire mesh, to compound this stupidity they had normal ventilation systems instead of the ones used in the delousing chambers which were 7 times more powerful and then they had wooden doors!! instead of steel gastight doors which they had at their delousing chambers!!
    In Kremas 3 & 4 Rudolf Hoess and gang go full retard!! They gasp remove the Zyklon introduction chambers and resort to throwing the poisonous crystals from a window like hatch??? WTF it means after a gassing operation the Sonderkommando would have to rush in and first look for the degassing crystals and collect them (Zyklon B crystals degass for hours)and destroy them, you would literally need another team of Sonderkommandoes to retrieve the dead Sonderkommandoes of the first team – and I reiterate the Germans had the best gassing technology in the world the DEGESCH circulating machine!! Add to this the problems of not finding any holes on the roof of Krema 2, no sign of HCN staining or residues in the Gas chambers whereas all the delousing chambers are heavily stained and that the coke supplies to Auschwitz & oven capacity sharply point to a drastically lower count – you have battle ship Auschwitz sinking under revisionist torpedoes!

    While Hoess was doing his clownish gassings his boss Himmler does something so monumentally stupid that it is almost unbelievable – he opens extermination camps without crematoriums!! Think about that the Nazis had crematoriums in almost all concentration camps but they don’t install them in extermination camps!! That fact alone should have set alarm bells ringing amongst the orthodox historians – let us take the case of Treblinka – 870,00 to 1.2 million people were supposed to be gassed and then exhumed and burnt all using a Russian tank diesel engine! Just think about the wood involved for the open air incineration at 100 KG of wood per person on average it would amount to 100 thousand tons of wood to incinerate a million. A big shout out to the super human lumberjacks of Treblinka!! They would have to massively deforest the region around the camp but their is no evidence for it because if there were signs of massive deforestation the Russians who captured the camp would have recorded them. The Nazis might have been able to incinerate a million without a trace but they surely could not regrow trees!! These giant funeral pyres were burning for 4 months allegedly without the Polish underground taking a single photo of the smoke!! Though they had a lot to say about Treblinka but not a single photo of the smoke exists though there were so many villages around Treblinka.

    But enough the entire field ‘Holocaust studies’ is entirely corrupted and should be dismissed as outlandish bullshit until the searing revisionist critiques are answered. No more la la land stories please.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Wally
  256. @Miro23

    The all thing happened at the dawn of drone technology.
    I did have at the time discussion with some Polish guy Who seemed to have a genuine knowledge.
    He claimed with total certainty that two plains that hit the towers were drones, that looked as civilian aircraft. So if somebody would have a power to check the two flight manifests of those fictions planes
    and proove that those persons who did suppose die in planes, than the jig would be up.
    ,
    ,

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  257. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, thanks. It hangs together as well as a good thriller and I hope the Netflix version makes you a fortune.

    Well thank you too, but there seems to be a problem with the screenplay. Building 7 is supposed to be collapsing in a flaming inferno but the film shows it going down with virtual no fires at all. Also, it’s the wrong type of building. Modern steel frame high rises don’t collapse through fire even if they’re engulfed in flames.

    The screenplay really called for some old wooden building.

  258. @Robjil

    I was walking on the mountainside where they were hiding and I did look into cottage.
    And I did see the movie. They were shut like dogs. But they had guts. non of them surrendered.
    They all died fighting. They knew that they would have been hanged.

  259. Rurik says:

    During the WW2 era, Stefan Bandera and his team was into killing off any non- Western Ukrainians in their part of North West Ukraine – Galicia

    Good!

    I’d do the same.

    You know, I’m an American of European heritage, but when I read of the savageness of some of the Amerindians who slaughtered white settlers, I’m somewhat appalled at some of the methods, but sure as hell understand and sympathize with the motivations.

    Were I a young Sioux at the time, and the white man were telling me to submit to his rule, then I’d like to think that I would have killed thousands of them. More, if that’s what it took to free my people from the domination of others. Whoever the f they think they are.

    Whether its Poles or Soviet murderous dogs or Nazis. If they think they have the right (of might) to take over my lands and impose themselves on my people, they deserve to die. Period.

    What about that don’t you get, eh?

    The Soviet fiend starved to death millions of Ukrainian men, woman and children in the most horrific crime from the annals of modern history that I’m personally aware of. (and that’s saying a lot!)

    Do you think the descendants of the Holodomor should allow the perpetrators of their genocide to publically wear ribbons honoring the evil time in history when the Soviet fiend was terrorizing and murdering the Ukrainian people with demonic abandon? What kind of scumbag goes into Ukraine wearing a ribbon commemorating their genocide/slavery?!

    The problem is that for generations that is exactly what they did. Because when Eastern Europe was handed over to the Soviet fiend, (proving that Hitler was right about their imperialism all along), the Fiend proceeded to lord it over those people for generations, forcing them to ‘honor’ the Red Army rapists who starved and raped and genocided the best of them.

    >><<

    Few people are and have been more critical than I of the Ukros ('neo-Nazi' dupes in Kyiv taking their marching orders from Jews), and persecuting innocent Russians who were also dupes of the Soviet fiend, and were migrated into non-Russian nations, where due to that fiendish act, strife and problems remain.

    The solution is a moderate approach that recognizes the innocents of the Russian people now there, who ought to learn the local language and accept that they're living in other people's nations, whether it's Ukraine or Estonia or wherever. Or, go back to mother Russia.

    But the Soviet rat is now dead, (God bless!), and part of the reconciliation is going to be for the Russian people who now live in the former satellite states, to realize that the Soviet era was a time of horrors and genocide and mass-rapes and the evisceration of the human sprit to slavery to the demonic agenda of the Soviet Fiend.

    Repudiate the Soviet Fiend with all your heart and all your breath. Learn the Ukrainian language and its terrible history during those evil years. Understand that if Poland thinks it has the right to impose itself upon its weaker neighbors, then just as the Poles had the right to kill the Soviets, or make alliances with the Nazis when prudent to do so, then that was the right of the Ukrainians as well, if Poles or anyone else came marching in and ordering people around.

    Slavery is not the default condition of man's nature. Rather, it's anathema to human happiness. And men and women have every right and obligation to kill anyone who tries to make them a slave.

    ALL people are entitled to self determination. And that includes the Ukrainians of Galicia. Just as it did the Amerindians on this continent. To begrudge the Banderites their God given right to self-determination, is the exact same thing as telling the Poles they had no right to resist Nazi or Soviet imperialism and domination, (or genocide in the case of the Soviets).

    But people are too parochial and pedestrian to understand these issues in principle.

    The second you forswear another man’s right to self-determination, is the second you become a little kommissar, willing to impose yourself on others. Because you can.

    Leave people alone to plot their own course. To run their governments according to local customs with respect for their ancestors. Even if a Ukrainian grandfather killed a Soviet Russian imperialist, genocidal animal profaning sacred Ukrainian soil. He had no business being there. Just as the Poles had no business being there. If you break into my house, and tell me the way things are going to be run around here from now on, I’ll kill you. And I can’t respect any man who wouldn’t do the same.

    Anyone telling the Ukrainian (or Polish or Estonian or Latvian, etc…) people that their grandfathers were ‘Nazis’ for honorably defending Ukrainian sovereignty and honor, and trying to expel the Soviet Fiend, are in my book beyond assholes, and are modern day Soviets/Nazis who believe they have/had the right to impose themselves on others.

    I can’t stand people who like to impose themselves over others, whether it’s Lazar Kaganovich, Bela Kun or Victoria Nuland.

    I’m just as disgusted with the Ukros who take their orders from Porky and Kolomoisky as lap dogs to John McCain and the Zios, as I am with the ultra-nationalistic Russian who act like the Red Army rapists were great liberators.

    All those people over there need to get a clue. If you don’t recognize other people right to self-determination, then you don’t deserve it yourselves.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  260. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent article. We do need more Stephen Millers. Also, I wld point out that the intermarriage rate is about 75% among the non Orthodox, so Jewish Americans are fully assimilating into the general population. We all need to be concerned about America, and not just our hyphenated groups. That’s the only way to avoid civil war or despotism.

  261. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Your attempt to ‘call out’ Jewish hypocrisy by comparing the actions of British Jews to American Jews while neglecting to mention the British context is typical of thise site.

    Not sure about that but what is certainly typical is the kind of response you have given here, from jewish or pro-jewish people who are clearly intelligent but either consciously lying or simply too blinded by their own bias to see the self-serving errors in their own assertions. Invariably of course it takes a lot of tedious explanation to explain exactly how attacks like yours are false and refute them, so most often the best approach is simply to leave them hanging and assume most readers will be able to work it out for themselves.

    American style free speech is not a mainstream position in Britain. The prosecution of Alison Chabloz would surprise people here even less were the targets of her ‘humour’ any other minority group than Jewish.
    …….
    To out it simply: were this weird Chabloz woman to sing a similar song but about Muslims in Britain, she’d already be in prison, and her imprisonment would be uncontroversial.

    This is flat out false, although admittedly it might not be for much longer given the way we are going as far as politically correct speechcrime laws and their enforcement are concerned. One name demonstrates the outright falsehood of your position:

    Salman Rushdie.

    Have we yet reached the situation in which Salman Rushidie would be imprisoned for publishing “offensive” material rather than feted by the anti-religious elites? Probably not, but that’s the direction we are being pushed by both jewish and muslim lobby groups.

    And therein lies the other falsehood in your comment. You seek to argue implicitly that “jewish groups aren’t pushing censorship of things they don’t like to hear said, because muslims are too”. Put that way, the absurdity is obvious.

    Of course, all (or almost all) identity lobby groups want to be able to lock up people saying things they don’t like to hear. The issue is which ones will have sufficient influence to get their way. As is often suggested in this context – to know who has power, see who it is you get locked up for offending or criticising.

    As a jewish person yourself reading this article above, and my comment, you could have chosen to become part of the solution by agreeing with my rejection of the jewish identity lobby groups that seek to promote censorship laws, including the disgracefully illiberal anti-”holocaust denial” laws in European countries. But instead you chose to attack me for criticising those jewish lobby groups, and thereby placed yourself on the side opposed to liberty.

    As a matter of interest, do you regard yourself as behaving in a typically jewish manner there, or not?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  262. anarchyst says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD THEY KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would they build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ ” “transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations”.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

  263. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    No you didn’t. You’re projecting.

  264. Wally says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Welcome aboard & thanks. Only liars advocate censorship.
    Have a look here:

    http://codoh.com/library/document/3276

    Gas Van Film and Photo Fraud
    German News Magazine and Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Museum Caught Faking Photo and Film Captions
    By Santiago Alvarez

    also:
    Not a single British Bletchley Park intercept of secret German messages to and from Auschwitz and the so called ‘death camps’ never mention gas chambers, killing Jews, or anything holocaust-like. There are many which do mention transporting Jews out of these labor camps.
    Also note that the outbound train records which were kept have disappeared while the inbound records have not. Who benefits?

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @anonymous
  265. Robjil says:
    @Rurik

    Ukrainian history is more complicated than we are told in the west. Galicia was part of Poland or Austria- Hungary for centuries. Since it was not Russian in recent history, Russian culture is foreign to them. The only time in recent history that it was part of Russia , really the Soviet Union, was in the Soviet era. When the Nazis took over Galicia. They called them Galicians and not Ukrainians. There is a SS Galicien memorial in Lviv today. After WW1, during the war between Poland and the Soviet Union, Galicia was for a short time in 1920, a Soviet Republic called the Galician SSR. Poland won the war, got Galicia back and the Galician SSR ended. When Galicia returned to the Soviet Union it should have became a separate republic like it was in 1920. In US ruled Ukraine, this Galician culture of a small North West part of Ukraine, is violently being imposed on the large Ukrainian (means borderlands in Russian and Ukrainian) landmass. Yet, the US cried in pain for every ethnic group in the ex-Yugoslavia. The US with glee chopped up Yugoslavia like it was piece of wood.
    Galicia never experience the Soviet famine since it was part of Poland at the time of the famines. So, Galicia has no excuse to go crazy about the Soviet Famine. This Soviet Famine was all over the Soviet Union and not only the borderlands (Ukraine).
    The entire south and eastern part of Ukraine was Russian. It was added to Ukraine in 1922 by Lenin. It was very Russian in 1922 and it is still is today. This is the reason Donbass in the far south eastern part is revolting against the anti-Russian hysteria coming from the Galician ideologues in Kiev. Crimea was added to Soviet Ukraine in 1958 without a vote. At least, Nuland’s mad choice gave the people a chance to vote in 2014.
    Another area added to Soviet Ukraine is Transcarpathia. This area was part of Czechoslovakia. The people speak a language similar to Slovak. They call their language Rusyn. There also many Hungarians in this area. Recently, these Hungarians have been revolting against the clamping down of their language and culture from the criminals in US ruled Ukraine.
    A part of Romania was added also after WW2. It is called Bessarabia. In this area there are a lot Bulgarians, Romanians and Gagauz (Turkish speaking Christians).
    The real Ukrainian part of Ukraine is in the center. It was called Malorussia. Malo means small or little and it also means the original Russia, since Kiev was the first big Russian city. Ukraine as country would work if it created cantons similar to Switzerland. The extreme violent enforcement of the Galician culture on the entire landmass of Ukraine makes no sense and will never work.

  266. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Also note that the outbound train records which were kept have disappeared while the inbound records have not. Who benefits?

    Got more information on this?

    Where are the outbound records now? Who prepared the records originally?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Anon
  267. “While I abhor the contemporary politicized notion of “privilege” that minority groups use to cover up their lack of rational argument, it would be dishonest to not admit that if there is a privileged ethnic group in the US today, that group is not Whites as a whole, but Jews.”

    This is an essential point. There is an obvious difference between the idea of a monolithic conspiracy by a specific ethnic group and the idea that a specific ethnic group is collectively pursuing its best interests without any unifying malice or manifesto. But the concept of “privilege,” as it is commonly used and understood, overlaps both ideas.

    On one hand, it is as absurd (but no more absurd) than any such conspiracy theory, and just as likely to inspire adherents who sacrifice rigorous critical thought for poorly tested arguments and tenuous causal relationships. Comprehensive Zionist plots, Ancient aliens, and White imperialism are theories that, lacking some shocking and undeniable future revelation, cannot be proven true or false. Belief in “privilege” requires a fundamental faith into which the facts may be placed, not a scientific conclusion that satisfies both all available evidence and Occam’s Razor.

    On the other hand, “privilege” is also transparently a prejudicial judgement either designed or at least perfectly suited to inspire ethnic conflict. The users are saying “maybe you as a member of x are not personally waging a war against y, but your people and your culture are dedicated to exploiting and marginalizing y and you benefit from the results.” As the author stated, it takes only the most casual survey of the attributes of people who have wealth and power to conclude that the argument for privilege is at least as likely to encourage anti-Semitism as it is to support an anti-white “woke” prejudice.

    The concept of privilege is simply an embryonic hate crime for people who are conditioned to see potential hate crimes everywhere else but in themselves. It would be nice if they could recognize this before the Us vs Them mentality reaches widespread oppression and bloodshed levels, but I’m not hopeful.

  268. RobinG says:
    @Robjil

    Thank you for this posting on regional complexity, which goes back in successive layers to Ruthenians and beyond.

  269. @Robjil

    You did not mention Lvov area.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  270. Robjil says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Lvov (Lviv) is in Galicia. It is the capitol of Galicia.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  271. Wally says:
    @anonymous

    Destroyed by Zionists / communists, or at minimum hidden in perhaps old Soviet archives or maybe taken to “that shitty little country”, Israel, ‘for safe keeping’.

    The outbound would have been prepared by the same German rail officials that prepared the inbound records.
    The CODOH Forum has plenty on this, so come & debate, unless you are afraid. Tons of True Believers have done so.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Revisionists, all former believers, are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  272. @Robjil

    I was under impression that native population of Lvov was Polish.
    (Please do not take it as an offense. Lvov is the capital, Capitol is the building where legislative government is.)

    • Troll: RobinG
    • Replies: @Robjil
  273. Rurik says:
    @Robjil

    Thank you for the interesting history of the place Robjil,

    Poland won the war, got Galicia back and the Galician SSR ended.

    how did the people of Galicia feel about being ‘gotten back’, I wonder?

    When Galicia returned to the Soviet Union it should have became a separate republic like it was in 1920.

    a lot of good it would have done them I imagine. Not too much autonomy under that lot.

    In US ruled Ukraine, this Galician culture of a small North West part of Ukraine, is violently being imposed on the large Ukrainian (means borderlands in Russian and Ukrainian) landmass.

    for the sake of clarity, many of us here at Unz refer to the Zionist occupied government and media here in the states as the ‘ZUS’, or ZUSA. It really is more descriptive considering that there are virtually zero actual Americans who’re fomenting all these wars and atrocities all over the planet.

    The handful of John McCains and Victoria Nulands are less than .001% of our population, and are working against our interests as feverishly as they’re working against Russia’s and Ukraine’s. If not more so. Yes, there are more Zionist Jews who’re complicit as well, and including the arms manufactures, etc., but they’re still a tiny 1 or 2% tops of the American population.

    (sorry, felt the need to point that out)

    as far as the ZUS imposing the Ukros rule on the Russians and others, I’ll tell you something. When it looked like the Fiend (Zio-scumbags fomenting wars all over the planet on behalf of Israel) was on the verge of implementing another war on the Russian/Ukrainian border, is when I started posting here, and I chose the name of Rurik because I knew he was a guy from the past who was poised in-between those two proud peoples, and I wanted to be a voice of reason and sanity who spoke against strife and hatred (the calling cards of the Fiend) and do what I could to ease the tensions and point out that these good peoples on both sides of the conflict were being used as pawns by the ZUS PTB as a thorn in Putin’s side for thwarting the Fiend’s intention of doing a ‘Libya’ on Syria.

    (Sorry again, I get long winded)

    Anyways, as you mention, that’s what’s going on. The ZUS is funding and arming some neo-fascist thugs in Ukraine, and promising them to power if they obey the ZUS quislings and Israeli Jewish oligarchs like Kolomoisky who will give them orders and tell them who to kill – innocent villagers in Donbas.

    So, Galicia has no excuse to go crazy about the Soviet Famine.

    the point of the famine beyond Ukraine’s borders is to demonstrate the nature of the Fiend: Genocidal, Jewish supremacist, and stone-cold evil to the core.

    Ukraine as country would work if it created cantons similar to Switzerland. The extreme violent enforcement of the Galician culture on the entire landmass of Ukraine makes no sense and will never work.

    cantons sounds fine to me. I’ve even advocated dividing Ukraine up between its Russian areas and Ukrainian areas. Anything to prevent more war!

    But alas, I really don’t know nearly enough about the area, and certainly not as much as you obviously do. So I would defer to anyone’s expertise who simply is not full of rancor and hatred for ‘the others’ over there, who did this or that to their ancestors, and wanted to simply get along, without burning people alive like they did in that building in Odessa.

    I wish them all the best.

    What I do know, is that the Fiend has its tentacles over there, and is trying to put pressure on Putin for thwarting its designs in the Middle East. Syria in particular. So the Fiend sends its handmaidens like John McCain and Victoria Nuland to create hatred and strife and war. That much I know.

    Anyone who is a friend of John McCain, is a scumbag and enemy of their people. Men like Saakashvili for instance, who ought to be put up against a wall and shot like a dog. (actually, no dog should ever be shot, but Saakashvili is far, far worse than any mangy, rabid dog. And just knowing he’s buddies with McCain is all anyone needs to know. The same goes for Nuland and all the other minions of Satan who create hate and bloodshed wherever their rancid hides take them.

    The strife between the Russians living in the satilie states vs. the locals is a festering wound. Not only in Ukraine, but also places like Estonia, where the Russian don’t like it when the Estonians honor their loved ones who fought the Red Army rapists. Too many Russians want to pretend that the Red Army rapists liberated these nations from Nazi tyranny, even as they imposed Soviet tyranny for generations.

    It’s all a witches brew of vanities and national narratives, and they all want to feel good about themselves, by pretending the cartoon version of that evil war was the truth, and that the Nazis were the ultimate evil, and all the people who fought them were therefor the ultimate good. Even my father’s generation of American vets were guilty of that vanity, and perhaps could be forgiven, since the Jewish media hammered it in, day and night.

    I’m just posting here to try to set the record straight when I can, and most of all to oppose the evil wars of the Fiend.

    It’s Rurik against the Fiend, as it ever was. ;)

    Cheers and thanks for your thoughtful and knowledgeable reply

    • Replies: @Robjil
  274. Robjil says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Yes, you are correct. Before WW2, Galicia had a large peasant population of West Ukrainians and a smaller one of Poles. On the other hand, the capitol city Lvov was mostly Polish and it also had a large Jewish population. Both those populations are small in the city today. The city today is mostly Galician (West Ukrainian). Galicians and their ideologues are at center of control of Ukraine’s US Junta. They promote Lvov as the most Ukrainian city. Most people in the rest of Ukraine scratch their heads knowing that it was a Polish city built for Poles. So, how can it be the most Ukrainian city of Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  275. polskijoe says:
    @Robjil

    If Dmowski had his way, its possible much of todays problems wouldnt exist.
    He predicted some of this mess today.
    Might have prevented WW2 maybe.

    Of course his ideas were meant for back then. (check Dmowski Line).

    The Brits and Americans refused it due to their philosemitic tendencies.

    President Wilson disliked him.

    Dmowski:

    My religion came from Jesus Christ, who was murdered by the Jews.”[40] When British Prime Minister David Lloyd George criticized Dmowski and the Committee, Dmowski saw this as a result of Lloyd George’s representation of Jewish interests.[26] He refused to admit a single Polish Jew to the National Committee,

    A number of American and British Jewish organizations campaigned during the war against their governments recognizing the National Committee.

  276. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    That’s a bit silly. You could just as easily say that the Germans destroyed the train records to cover up that they came back empty because the passengers were dead. You have no proof for your assertion.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Wally
  277. Robjil says:
    @Rurik

    I agree with your critique. ZUS is our gov. – 911 proved it beyond doubt. The Soviet Union made a big mistake with some of republics it created. They were not meant to be countries but rather as administrative areas. After the fall, ZUS abused the ethnic divisions in these new states to create wars – Transnistria in Moldavia, Nagorno-Karabakh in Azerbaijan Chechnya in Russia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia and now Donbass in Ukraine. France after its revolution, was divided into a 100 tiny bits related only to geography so its ethnic groups could never break away easily as independent countries. The Soviet Union did not do that. Galicia, as a Soviet republic,would have been a nice small bit that would have broken off with not much trouble to the world. Yugoslavia had a fractured history like Ukraine. ZUS allowed it to be broken into seven bits and it was only half the size of Ukraine. Most Ukrainians would welcome a similar thing if “allowed” by ZUS. Enforcing the culture of small Galicia by Ukraine’s ZUS Junta appears to be a weapon to get Russia angry since Russian speakers are largest non-Ukrainian speaking group in Ukraine. The people of Ukraine do not seem to notice that they are just being used as weapon.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  278. @Robjil

    Thank you! My impression is that most of the Muzhiks (peasants, or farmers the old Cossack families) are of Russian descent.
    So Ukrainian countryside is mostly Russian. Ukraine is one big farmland.
    That is why I do think that all Ukraine will one day return to the bosom of Mother Russia,
    But it will happen when US dollar will stop ruling the world.
    Just My curiosity!
    Where is the location of the battle where Shevchenko’s Taras Bulba died.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @yurivku
  279. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I asserted nothing.

    The statement was made that one set of records was available, the other set was not available.

    It is generally known that ZUSA removed tonnes of records from Germany, and had control over those records from the time they left Germany until today.


    If your charge is correct, do the records at Blechley Park support it?

  280. Robjil says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Taras Bulba’s battle was near Dubno Castle, Rivne Oblast, Volhynia. Volhynia is just north of Galicia. Galicia- Volhynia are the most western parts of Ukraine.

  281. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The ability to remotely fly commercial aircraft has existed for decades already, I think since the 1970s. The film Loose Change makes much of the drone or modified airliner theory but one should always be wary and vigilant for disinformation, the mixing of provable falsehoods with truth in order to invalidate truth.

    Have you actually seen any pictures of any aircraft parts in the vicinity of the WTC that would have inevitably have tumbled to the ground as a result of large aircraft crashing high up into the buildings?

    Is it possible that sound effects replicating planes approaching and then impacting the buildings simultaneously as explosives were detonated could convince people that planes had actually crashed?

    Is it possible that the images that we saw in our “trusty” media news broadcasts were actually CGI of the sort that is employed everyday in the making of motion pictures?

    I don’t know the answers to those questions but I am certain of the fact that the buildings were precision pre-wired for demolition and allowing planes to crash into them could have disrupted that and left unexploded evidence that would have unravelled the whole scheme?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  282. @Tyrion 2

    Free speech is very much a mainstream British position.

    It’s the 0.4% and their lackeys who hate free speech and who lock up English patriots for it.

    But you hate-filled Jews would do well to remember that you have sown the wind and shall reap the whirlwind.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  283. Glaivester says: • Website

    Now, more than 50 years later, we can re-examine the question: was this actually good for the Jews?

    Wrong question – was it good for the Jewish establishment? Put another way: is, for example, the ADL interested in the welfare of the ran-and-file Jews, or is it interested in maintaining the power of the ADL? Antisemitism, as long as it can be controlled, is certainly good for those who make their money and derive their power from fighting antisemitism.

    The GOP certainly had a lot of support from its base even when it was intent on screwing them over, and it was not until the Trump run that there was any real resistance to it. Perhaps Jews are in a similar situation regarding those who declare themselves the Jews’ cultural representatives?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  284. Wally says:
    @Anon

    So, the Germans would incriminate themselves by destroying the outbound records while leaving behind the inbound records?

    That’s hilarious. :-)

    You are thick as a brick.

    Tons of proof at the CODOH Forum.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:

    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Anon
  285. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    The Salman Rushdie stuff was decades ago…that you chose it as your example proves my point…

    • Replies: @Randal
  286. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Maple Curtain

    I imagine that British Jews are more supportive of genuine free speech than the average Briton. That certainly is my experience.

    Indeed, I imagine that British Jews are now more immigration restrictionist than the average Briton though they may only be more so than the average British urbanite, I can’t be sure.

    Anecdotally, if we look at leaders of the 2 main parties this century, there have been 9 overall or which 2 have been Jewish. This is obviously very disproportionate. Yet those 2 have easily been the most immigrationist restrictionist leaders of their respective parties, which is even more disproportionate!

    Something for this Jew to be proud of.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @L.K
    , @Art
    , @Sam J.
  287. @NoseytheDuke

    WT7
    When I first time did see collapse of WT7 it was obvious to me that it was a controlled demolition.
    I also later have seen on TV that two demolition experts without hesitation after seeing the collapse of WT7 confirmed that it was controlled demolition.
    The WT7 was steel reinforced concrete structure. In this types of structures usually the columns are attached to floating concrete plate to prevent the earthquake damage.
    Reinforcing steel bars are anchored in plate. And all columns are poured on the site.
    The beams are made in facilities where the reinforcing steel is pulled to certain stress and concrete is poured. After concrete harness they are brought to construction and are attached to column. After that the steel reinforced usually 4-inch floor is poured.
    Side plates are also prefabricated concrete and attached to side beams.
    There is no exposed steel in this type of structures.
    This type of structures is considerable heavier than the steel structures.

    That this type of structure collapsed because heat burning from paper or wood is absolutely ridiculous.

    Some do claim that the building was blown down by wind from collapsing of the Tower. It is also absolute falsehood.
    If the equally distributed force would be applied to face of building it would move the building, because the building was earthquake resistant building, Movement of the building would be possible to visually detect,
    That the pressure from falling of the tower would be so high to accomplish that is impossible.
    There simply was no lateral movement of the building or the tilting of the building.

    So here I did exclude all possibilities so it had to be controlled demolition.
    Before the building started to collapse there was visible dispersion of dust at the bottom of the building.

    The second Tower.
    The towers design was steel columns and girders attached to them. The floors were hold up by trusses that in turn were attached to girders. The guiding factor in design of the trusses is the tension stress in bottom of the truss in the middle of the truss. Safety factor is usually from 2 to 4. Connections safety factor is usually from 6 to 8.
    That means that the connections are twice as strong than truss. So the truss will bend or buckle before connection will fail.
    So how would truss fail under normal condition.
    Under normal condition under increased weight on the floor would bend at the center and even touch the floor below and the connection would still hold.
    So as truss would bend concrete would crack and would be slipping to the center of the slab. So the concentration of the load would be in the center.

    What we have here instead increasing of the load, we have a decreasing of the ultimate tension strength of the steel.

    Now lets look carefully what happened with second tower.
    The plane (or rather the drone) impacted at 14th or 16th floor of the building.
    The fuel started to burn.
    After about 40 minutes the upper part above impact the upper part stated to bend.
    The columns started to buckle.
    Than suddenly second floor being totally in one peace and straight suddenly did fall on floor below. Eventually cascading floors collapsed the building.

    If we are trying to claim that increased heat was causing the shearing the bolts under load, and trusses remained straight, that would be simply non believable.
    Why it did not happened to the floor that was immediately above the impact where the temperature was the highest?
    It just does not make a sense!
    And some other things do not make sense.

    The passport clean as recently printed.

    Passport found in the car. That Paris shooting.

    No one interview of impact on families of persons killed on the planes.

    Bush goat story

    (I am tired now)

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  288. yurivku says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Such a mess is in your head! Where are you getting all this BS?

    Where is the location of the battle where Shevchenko’s Taras Bulba died.

    For your education – Taras Bulba had been written by Nikolay Gogol

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taras_Bulba

    It’ll be better for all if you won’t write things you have no idea about.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Liza
  289. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I cannot see why you’ve addressed this to me since my comment implied that all three buildings came down due to controlled demolition. I merely discussed the plane/drone concept.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  290. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The Salman Rushdie stuff was decades ago…that you chose it as your example proves my point…

    It doesn’t, of course, but the fact that you try to pretend it does rather than answering the question I put to you is telling I suppose.

    If you want to try to support your frankly absurd assertion that “were this weird Chabloz woman to sing a similar song but about Muslims in Britain, she’d already be in prison, and her imprisonment would be uncontroversial”, it’s up to you to produce some examples of people sent to prison here for singing songs on the internet about muslims (and satirical ones, not songs advocating violence or crime, at that).

    You can’t, of course, because your assertion was as I noted, flat out false.

    I’m not sure if it’s more condemnatory of you that you should be so dishonest as to do so intentionally, or that you should be so profoundly ignorant of the society around you that you actually believed what you wrote.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  291. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I imagine that British Jews are more supportive of genuine free speech than the average Briton. That certainly is my experience.

    ROFL! “Genuine free speech”, forsooth!

    “Free speech except for people saying things we don’t like” is of course exactly the position adopted by high profile jewish lobby organisations, and implicitly approved by you in your reply to my first post above, and in your own pointed refusal to take the opportunity to distance yourself from it.

    It’s not supporting free speech, it’s hypocrisy, pure and simple.

    You are probably correct, though, based upon the evidence around us such as the Chabloz prosecution and jewish organisational support for speechcrime laws, that it is likely the actual position of many jewish people on freedom of speech.

    If and when somebody is actually locked up for singing an anti-muslim song in this country, as you rather absurdly fantasised above is already “routine” in this country, then most likely it will be done based upon the precedent currently being set by the jewish identity lobby group the Campaign Against Antisemitism, if they are successful in their unprecedented attempt to prosecute Alison Chabloz, apparently with your personal approval.

    No doubt you will be proud that some more “ungenuine free speech” has ben properly punished.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  292. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Or there were no outbound records. What would be the point?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  293. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    This is a very interesting discussion. The link between significant scientific achievement, ethnicity, and IQ.

    I do not doubt that Jews will be disproportionately represented at the higher end of the Bell Curve and that this association will correlate with significant scientific achievement.

    But there is another factor that may be at play in the winning of Nobel prizes that is seldom discussed. Just as Ron Unz has shown favoritism towards Jews at admission to the Ivy League, significant scientific achievement in the modern age often requires large well funded labs. I suspect, but have no proof, that there is likely to be favoritism and nepotism at work in grant funding in the United States that may favor Jewish scientists. This might play a role in the disproportionate amount of Jewish scientists who win nobel prizes.

    But that would be another study for another day. Perhaps Ron Unz or Steve Sailer could look into the grant process in the US and explore whether Jewish scientists are more likely to be funded than the non-Jewish scientists?? And if so, what is the reason for the disparity??

    • Replies: @ANON
  294. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Or there were no outbound records. What would be the point?

    There are dozens of organizations of holocaust survivors, and thousands of records of survivor ‘testimonies.’

    Wouldn’t “outbound records” validate that those thousands of survivors actually HAD BEEN in a camp, etc.?

    • Replies: @ANON
  295. @yurivku

    Taras Bulba was written by Taras Shevchenko Not Gogol.
    I am right and Wikipedia is wrong and there was another stupidity Gogol did not write overcoat.
    Overcoat was written by Lermontov.

    And You are nor Russian and you do not know anything about Russia and Russian literature.
    There are very little facts Wikipedia about Russia or Russian literature that are correct. Most of it is BS.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  296. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Haven’t you missed his point? Isn’t the reference to outvound records kept by or for the Germans?

  297. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @lavoisier

    It might not be too difficult to do a preliminary check with Wikipedia.

    It would be very surprising if the potential funding bias (and I don’t dispute the theoretical possibility of it occurring via old WASP foundations like Rockefeller or Ford; cp. “Capture” of the Ivies) had begun before the 70s or 80s.

    The unsupported suggestion made earlier about direct Jewish influence on the awards has in fact prompted another theoretical speculation. Just as Harvey Weinstein is supposed to have mastered the art of Oscar lobbying maybe there is the equivalent in the nomination and deliberation stages for the Nobels. Who would do it? It is not something that one would expect a Sheldon Adelson to be good at but he could easily put a retired university president with prestige in STEM to sit on a $10 million foundation dedicated to promoting promising scientists’ careers….

    Hey…. why go to all the bother? Let’s make it up!

    For a mini thesis I suggest a study of all the Nobels now seen to be duds to see if there are any explanatory themes which emerge from their back stories.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @lavoisier
  298. Rurik says:
    @Robjil

    ZUS is our gov. – 911 proved it beyond doubt.

    yep

    After the fall, ZUS abused the ethnic divisions in these new states to create wars – Transnistria in Moldavia, Nagorno-Karabakh in Azerbaijan Chechnya in Russia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia and now Donbass in Ukraine.

    allow yourself a light-hearted inner smile at the knowledge that John McCain is rotting from the inside out – of his evil little brain. Soon, he’ll be dead and the rest of him will be rotting too!

    Normally, a man dying is not something all people everywhere should celebrate. But in the case of a particularly venomous snake on two legs, like the historically execrable John McCain… and considering all the death and misery and horrors this man is personally responsible for- not to mention all the broken hearts who lost loved ones as a direct result of John McCain’s treasons and crimes. (And would lose in the future due to McCain’s relentless war mongering..)

    I think it’s safe to say that all people, no matter where on the planet, should all be happy and celebrate in our hearts that John McCain is dying, and will soon be dead. :)

    Ukraine’s ZUS Junta appears to be a weapon to get Russia angry since Russian speakers are largest non-Ukrainian speaking group in Ukraine. The people of Ukraine do not seem to notice that they are just being used as weapon.

    they’re trying to provoke Putin in exactly the same way they provoked Hitler over the corridor, by fomenting atrocities against the people of Donbas, just like they committed atrocities against the German people in Danzig. I call it ‘the rope a dope strategy, where they kill some of your people, and get you to defend your nationals, and then howl that you’re being aggressive! and need to be stomped down.

    Thank God Putin is far too savvy for their pathetic schemes.

    And yes, it’s very, very sad to see the people of Ukraine being suckered and used like dogs to serve the nefarious agenda of the ZUS. They want to feel like they’re part of the bling-bling, HipHop, west. Where Beyoncé and JayZ will come and make them all feel soooo cool, and they can see their young people emulate thug/nigger culture and swim in Hollywood’s cultural sewage.

    And you can’t tell them how damaging it all is, to celebrate ‘thug-life’ losers and their whores and the homomania and spiritual rot that goes with it all.

    Our icons in the zio-west are egotistical cretins and gutter skanks, held up as heroes and roll models for children to emulate, and they’re the lowest level of shit from our society. But just like with Weimar, when these people control your institutions, they drag everything down to the level of worm shit, and the next thing you know there are pedophiles everywhere. Just look at England or Hollywood. These places are so full of boy rapists that they’re on a par with the Vatican!

    (ranting again.. : (

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
    , @Sam J.
  299. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    People are arrested for inciting racial hatred on a literally daily basis. This song easily falls into the Overton window for what that means.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Randal
  300. yurivku says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    You are funny -))
    Ok, leave you in your virtual world, argue on such things is out of sense.

  301. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    I believe Chabloz should be free to sing her supposedly satirical songs.

    Most Britons don’t.

    Most British Jews probably also don’t but it is my experience that a greater proportion would support her right to be an idiot.

    Do you now understand?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Randal
  302. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    Thanks to your dopey amateur’s blundering around waving a few scientific factoids you make elementary errors like referring to the melting of steel when weakening is all that was required. You also seem unaware that the buildings were built in accordance with new 1960s discretionary standards which greatly reduced the safety margins more concrete could have provided. And where pray – at what level(s) – do you think demolition charges would have been placed, and does that accord with professional demolition practice? Can you not understand how thousands of tons of upper storeys gaining momentum as ther crash through the first floors that have given way because of weakness caused by heat are going to crumple the lower floors like paper vertically?

    BTW have you turned your mind to why clever plotters are going to add a potentially damaging diversion like WTC 7 to their essential plan?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Sam J.
  303. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “Eternal wandering liars haven’t got a clue, and when it comes to usury, victim’s always me and you’.”

    This falls clearly into the Overton window of inciting racial hatred and that is why she is in trouble.

  304. Rurik says:
    @Tyrion 2

    People are arrested for inciting racial hatred on a literally daily basis.

    you mean like all the lies and smears and blood-libels that have been heaped upon the people of Germany for generations now?

    In a direct campaign to incite hatred against them? So as to ‘justify’ an ongoing campaign of extortion and humiliation? So as to enslave all generations of Germans to a devil’s lie? And enslave them to perpetual servitude to Israel?

    that kind of “inciting racial hatred”?

    or the kind where you point out that the German people have been lied about and their character smeared by hatred-consumed, genocidal fiends doing to Palestinians what they claimed was done to them?

    and if you point out the lies, and tell the simple, honest truth..

    which is that Germany is being unfairly extorted, and their ancestors lied about, and all so that some racial supremacists can murder people and steal their land..

    that telling the truth is somehow “inciting racial hatred”? What about the racial hatred that has been incited against the Palestinians for the crime of existing? Eh?

    does that hatred and criminality ever register on your ‘moral outrage meter’? And if not, why not?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  305. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    People are arrested for inciting racial hatred on a literally daily basis. This song easily falls into the Overton window for what that means.

    Perhaps you should tell the CAA and the CPS that, then, because Chabloz is charged with Communications Act offences, not inciting racial hatred. Of course, the song doesn’t fall into any “Overton Window” for inciting racial hatred at all, let alone any plausible legal definition, which is why Chabloz was not charged with that.

    And you still (inevitably) haven’t produced any of the cases in which you claim people are “routinely” locked up in England for posting satirical songs about muslims to the internet. You made it up, either knowingly dishonestly or through sheer ignorance of what the law is and how it is enforced in this country.

    You’ve made it pretty clear that you personally support this kind of censorship of free speech, and you’ve previously indicated your belief that your views are pretty typical of jewish people in general. Which brings us back to the original point. If there are really large numbers of jewish people who actually do support freedom of speech then they ought to be shouting out their rejection of your position. Until and unless they do, observers will draw the conclusion that jews in general support speechcrime censorship, whatever they might claim in response to surveys, or pretend amongst themselves in self-congratulatory hypocrisy about “genuine freedom of speech”.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  306. Rurik says:
    @ANON

    sniveling coward hiding behind ‘ANON’ so as to veil its idiocy and bankrupt ‘arguments’

    building seven was an OBVIOUS controlled demolition. Duh.

    9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by Israel with elements of the Bush administration and CIA and the criminals at the PNAC, FBI and other traitors

    all as a pretext to destroy seven countries in the Middle East that Satanic, murderous Israel doesn’t like

    and this demonic agenda is continuing even today, as Trump shows his true colors as a traitor and war pig liar, who was lying to us all along.

    [may he rot in hell with his butt-buddy McCain]

    • Replies: @geokat62
  307. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I believe Chabloz should be free to sing her supposedly satirical songs.

    Ah well done (we’ll pass over the contradiction between your claim here and your previous claim that supporting “genuine” freedom of speech” didn’t require opposing Chabloz being prosecuted for uploading a song to the internet). Now let’s see you actually give plausible evidence of that rather (on the face of your comments here so far) implausible claim by attacking the jewish identity lobby organisation that single handedly brought about the prosecution of Chabloz, in the name of jewish people – the Campaign Against Antisemitism.

    Because the whole reason Chabloz’s prosecution was (unprecedentedly) a private prosecution by the CAA was because they had been badgering the CPS to prosecute for months without success and feared (probably with good reason) that the CPs would not do so.

    As a jew, of course, your objections would carry far greater weight with the CAA’s backers and enablers. If enough of you objected, that organisation would have to change its censorship promotion policies.

    Most Britons don’t.

    This is pure fantasy on your part, since most Brits haven’t heard of Chabloz or her prosecution, because unlike previous prosecutions of artistic works there has been no elite outcry and very little reporting at all. Why do you think that might be?

    Most British Jews probably also don’t but it is my experience that a greater proportion would support her right to be an idiot.

    Seems that they’ve a strange way of showing it if so, since she is being prosecuted in their name with very little high profile or organised outcry against the organisation operating in their name to push the prosecution. Jews must be proportionately much more aware of it than the wider population, since the CAA and its activities is well protected within the jewish community for fundraising purposes.

    Some individual jews clearly don’t agree with this kind of censorship, and are backing her. But not enough, seemingly, to outweigh the ones who are quite happy with the organisation doing it in their name.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  308. L.K says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “I imagine that British Jews are more supportive of genuine free speech than the average Briton. That certainly is my experience.”

    pfff…buhaHAHAHHAHAHAHA

    Thanks for the laugh… you are a clown without the makeup!

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  309. @NoseytheDuke

    I do trust we can get to certain understanding, You have addressed me first. I have only elaborated.
    So please scratch out my name from your address book. I do not have to do that because your name was never in my address book. My impression is that you are extremely arrogant.
    I never paid any attention to your comments. But now I will have to because I am curios if your arrogance is justified.

  310. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    You insist on ‘songs’ becayse you know there are innumerable examples I could use of other types of ‘speech’. Do you think singing something makes it special?

    • Replies: @Randal
  311. Art says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I imagine that British Jews are more supportive of genuine free speech than the average Briton. That certainly is my experience.

    These Jews are crazy – only a crazed person would say that Jews are for free speech in the UK. What a bold in your face lie! We all know that any negative speech against Israel is attacked by the Jew power structure.

    How stupid is it, to lie like that? It is irrational. What is going on? The Jew culture destroys their children with traumatic propaganda by the age of five. They are told the lie, that everyone wants to kill them. As a result when they grow up, they cannot recognize truth from fiction, when it comes to Jew tribal matters.

    What a sad bunch.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  312. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Rurik

    No idea what you’re talking about. I like Germany and I like Germans.

    I suppose they can be a bit humourless and I wish they would be both less self-righteous in their self-abnegation and less self-abnegatory. Is this what is called blood libel nowadays? Is it like how touching someone’s knee is now called rape?

  313. Tyrion 2 says:
    @L.K

    Only recounting my personal experience from conversation and so on…

  314. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    (we’ll pass over the contradiction between your claim here and your previous claim that supporting “genuine” freedom of speech” didn’t require opposing Chabloz being prosecuted for uploading a song to the internet)

    I would never claim something so obviously false. Why are you lying about it?

    As a jew, of course, your objections would carry far greater weight with the CAA’s backers and enablers. If enough of you objected, that organisation would have to change its censorship promotion policies.

    I’m not very important but I try. What would you like me to do? Be realistic too, the lady clearly hates me for existing so I am not very likely to sacrifice my entire life for her to avoid a fine or whatever.

    This is pure fantasy on your part, since most Brits haven’t heard of Chabloz or her prosecution, because unlike previous prosecutions of artistic works there has been no elite outcry and very little reporting at all. Why do you think that might be?

    No-one considers it an artistic work of any quality at all…

    But my point was that mosy Brits would find that the words are hateful and because humans don’t like hateful things they tens to ban them. This is not my preference even though can clearly recognise them as hateful.

    Some individual jews clearly don’t agree with this kind of censorship, and are backing her. But not enough, seemingly, to outweigh the ones who are quite happy with the organisation doing it in their name.

    I’ve actually caught thieves stealing from others before, even chasing them. I don’t agree with theft. Still you could hardly blame me for not putting my all in to rescue the bag of a lady who dedicates her life to trying to persuade the world how disgusting I am. I imagine many Jews are struggling to be bothered…there are more important things.

    Still, what would you like for me to do?

    • Replies: @Randal
  315. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    You insist on ‘songs’ becayse you know there are innumerable examples I could use of other types of ‘speech’. Do you think singing something makes it special?

    I referred to songs because you wrote: “were this weird Chabloz woman to sing a similar song but about Muslims in Britain, she’d already be in prison, and her imprisonment would be uncontroversial“.

    That’s clearly false because hers is the first ever prosecution for uploading a song to the internet.

    And if you think you can find “innumerable” examples of similarly indirect but “offensive” speech about muslims resulting in people being “uncontroversially” locked up, do try to produce some examples. They won’t support the case you originally put forward, but at least they will help to frame the discussion and demonstrate how far downhill we’ve already come under the influence of wannabe censors like the jewish and muslim identity lobbies, and the antiracism commissars.

    And yes, moving from potentially threatening face to face or overtly political speech to targeting satirical art (however controversially identified as such – I don’t think rap, or a “piss Christ” is “art”, myself) is a significant step downwards on the road to general censorship.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  316. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I would never claim something so obviously false. Why are you lying about it?

    That was the clear implication of your introduction of the notion of “genuine free speech”.

    Are you now clarifying that you did not do so with the intention of trying to introduce a distinction between “genuine” free speech and allowing people like Chabloz to not be prosecuted, which is what the context implied?

    Be realistic too, the lady clearly hates me for existing

    This is another iteration of the basic antiracist lie – disapproval dishonestly equated with hatred, and disapproval of group interests and the way they are pursued falsely conflated with personal hatred.

    In fact there’s no evidence whatsoever that Chabloz has any personal animus against jews individually, and indeed strong evidence to the contrary, since there are jewish individuals she is working with to fight this prosecution.

    Why would she “hate you for existing”? Why would she even particularly dislike you, if you aren’t actively part of, or a supporter of, the persecution she has faced, and if you aren’t part of the political activities she dislikes (in which case she’s as entitled to dislike you for that as anyone is entitled to dislike any political opponent for being such).

    No-one considers it an artistic work of any quality at all…

    This is an assertion that would have no importance even if it were true.

    But my point was that mosy Brits would find that the words are hateful and because humans don’t like hateful things they tens to ban them. This is not my preference even though can clearly recognise them as hateful.

    No, most people argue that even things of which they strongly disapprove should be allowed to be said. Indeed, this is the supposed official position of the British government and of the British elites, with hypocritical qualifiers only when the powerful wish to impose them.

    The fact remains that contrary to your suggestion the Chabloz prosecution absolutely is nothing ordinary for Britain, but represents a major downward step on the road to censorship that we are collectively travelling, largely impelled by jewish, muslim and other identity lobby groups along with various anti-racist etc political correctness zealots.

    Still, what would you like for me to do?

    Well, for instance the least you could probably do, when faced with an article specifically talking about what jews ought to be doing, and a comment referring to the disgraceful pushing by jewish organisations of censorship of speech they don’t like, is to come in and rather than trying to knock the comment criticising that behaviour, express your agreement with the criticism of the behaviour of the CAA and their ilk.

    But it’s not here that any action will be of any use. Most people here are well aware of the actions of jewish organisations trying to shut down speech they dislike. Really you should be making clear directly and personally to the various organisations that claim to represent you in this that CAA are not acting in your name in prosecuting Chabloz and similar speech suppression activities, and you will have no part of it and will not support those organisations if they continue to do it. If necessary you could join with likeminded jewish people (there must be lots of them based upon your assertion that jewish people generally support freedom of speech) to form rival organisations representing jewish interests that explicitly and honestly renounce and disapprove of actions promoting censorship.

    Obviously you don’t have to do any of that, but don’t be surprised if, when you and most of your fellows choose not to, observers recognise jewish claims to be devoted supporters of freedom of speech to be largely hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  317. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    … and this demonic agenda is continuing even today, as Trump shows his true colors as a traitor and war pig liar, who was lying to us all along.

    It looks like you’ve reached a tipping point on Trump, Rurik.

    What has convinced you he has been lying all along?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  318. @Rurik

    I live in the hope each day that John McCain lives a long time, writhing in agony, as cancer eats one cell at a time in his deplorable being, as he suffers for all the pain and deaths he has wrought across the world in service of his jewish masters. Eternity will not be long enough.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  319. ZIONISM has corrupted Judaism…Zio ideology embedded into Judaism as to make them inseparable, …although many jews/non jews support Israel they do not accept it at the expense of a Palestinian Holocaust or the perpetual wars with the Arab states/populations to realize the greater Israel delusionary military aventurism…wordshipping Israel is a form of idolatry oppose by Judaism…

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  320. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Songs or speech, in person or online, no-one cares and indeed there is no rational difference. I support freedom in all, most people don’t, it’s not my fault.

    • Replies: @Randal
  321. Liza says:
    @yurivku

    Yes, of course Taras Bulba was written by Gogol (in Russian). However, he was a Ukrainian, born in what is now called Ukraine, and his name is properly pronounced Hohol. Which you may know, but I’m just reminding. Tks. I’m a Uke but have nothing against Russians. There’s no more time for that; things are bad in the world and we have to try and get along now.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @yurivku
  322. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Like I said, all you had to do on this occasion was make your first post here one agreeing with my criticism of the prosecution of Chabloz, which you have claimed you do not support.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  323. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Are you now clarifying that you did not do so with the intention of trying to introduce a distinction between “genuine” free speech and allowing people like Chabloz to not be prosecuted, which is what the context implied?

    I never intended to imply the context you saw in it. Free speech is key to the civilization I love.

    This is an assertion that would have no importance even if it were true.

    It is important when we are discussing mass opinion…

    No, most people argue that even things of which they strongly disapprove should be allowed to be said. Indeed, this is the supposed official position of the British government and of the British elites, with hypocritical qualifiers only when the powerful wish to impose them.

    Very unfortunately, all evidence says otherwise.

    The fact remains that contrary to your suggestion the Chabloz prosecution absolutely is nothing ordinary for Britain, but represents a major downward step on the road to censorship

    It seems very much part to me of a tragically obvious trend.

    But it’s not here that any action will be of any use. Most people here are well aware of the actions of jewish organisations trying to shut down speech they dislike. Really you should be making clear directly and personally to the various organisations that claim to represent you in this that CAA are not acting in your name in prosecuting Chabloz and similar speech suppression activities, and you will have no part of it and will not support those organisations if they continue to do it. If necessary you could join with likeminded jewish people (there must be lots of them based upon your assertion that jewish people generally support freedom of speech) to form rival organisations representing jewish interests that explicitly and honestly renounce and disapprove of actions promoting censorship.

    I do this. In my own small way. Obviously I will not prove it. I am as scared of the thought police as you. My point really is that being Jewish does not save me from them, and I would appreciate being hated a bit less by my fellow opponents of the thought police, as the thought police is very far from a Jewish phenomenon.

    I’ve told my Rabbi off for political correctness and have done many other things. Some much more substantial. It just hurts a bit to be scapegoated for this nonsense given the real personal sacrifices I’ve made.

    Imagine you work quite hard to fix something and then you get clobbered on the internet by people who accuse you of making the problem you have worked so hard to obviate. It isn’t fun.

    As for forming a rival Jewish organisation. I get it, but it isn’t exactly key to my life and I prefer to work within standard British organisations. It tends to be more effective! Anyway, we’ll see what I do this year!

    • Replies: @iffen
  324. Clyde says:

    bookmark to read later plus the comments

  325. @Liza

    Honey you are so sincere and cute, The tears went all the way to my cheeks. Now I do have to admit that I am a dirty liar. Actually I never did heard anything about Taras Bulba. I did invent the all story for amusement.

    • Replies: @Liza
  326. lavoisier says: • Website
    @ANON

    I do not think there are many duds given scientific Nobels–Physics, Chemistry, Medicine. But I often wonder if antecedent and novel scientific work could have been dishonestly expropriated by another laying claim to an original idea that was not original.

    Fraud happens in science just like it does in finance. And just because you may be brilliant, it might not stop you from taking an idea from another scientist and claiming it as your own.

    • Replies: @ANON
  327. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Not really. If someone writes “the sky is blue and that is why Jews are evil and responsible for everything bad” I would be weird to simply agree that the sky is blue.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  328. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @lavoisier

    Re “Duds”
    It’s OK the immortal name of Lavoisier is safe but if you weren’t an old fuddy-duddy you would have got this at the top of one quick Google

    https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2015/10/nobel_prizes_awarded_for_disproved_discoveries.html

    Mind you there’s probably some convuluted explanation of causation by Jews working with drones snd controlled demolition experts but we have all our little helpers here to provide those emanationx of fevered brains.

    [When you are old enough you will give in to making those two quick taps which bring up Google, but do make sure you aren't caught out by a Google algorithm set to trick unwary gentiles :-) ]

  329. @Cloak And Dagger

    I hope for a quick and painful death that sends him to eternal torture. Hopefully there is a hell. McCain needs to leave this life as soon as possible. It would be best if eternal torture were real, and he started right away.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  330. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Hi there to a potential Jewish friend. Let me toss in some test questions to see if my sojourn on UR has perhaps coarsened me so I say something unknowingly offensive to my old Rabbi friend who shares with me the view that some Ashkenazi genes forming part of the bloodline one shares are a plus for some things one values (e.g. them being smart enough to share one’s sense of humour even if that brilliant acting in the school play didn’t quite tip the balance for a place at Oxford).

    Ordinarily I would expect him to laugh at the claim of a friend – another Anonymous – that someone said to him “You are so philo-Semitic you obviously don’t know enough Jews” and expect him to guess that it was a Jew who said it to him. Actually he made it up himself as a typical remark of an urbane Jewish lawyer we both know. :-) ???

    UR has prompted a lot of reading which makes me think of 19th century Zionism, well before 1898 as a perfectly sensible inoffensive (inspiring to some) idea to improve the lot of both Jews and their also fast breeding neighbours in Russia, Ukraine and Poland by making good use of some pretty unproductive land in the Ottoman empire. Who’s to mind some Rothschild money being used to buy up land from willing sellers and hardworking settlers then contributing to the local economy. Unfortunately, as for my experience of an extended hospital stay prompted by pain but nothing life threatening there doesn’t seem to have been anyone in charge and a lot of bad as well as stupid counterproductive behaviour ensued on both/all sides. No dissent I take it.

    Then there seems to have been a critical period of growing Zionist ruthlessness at all levels as well as growing objection (possibly because of the crucial leadership of certain Muslum clerics) by the growing Arab population of Palestine. That ruthlessness certainly included the exploitation, even provoking, of anti-Semitism beyond any justification that flowed merely from conventional impolite upper class anti-Semitism which usually had no legal or economic effect if one doesn’t count quotas – rarely formal – on entry to upper class institutions. (I am supposing Germany had not been very different from the English experience which I am reminded by a female friend that I met at an oldfashioned upper class coming out ball about the time they ended who said her Jewish grandfather had bought an estate in Ireland rather than Scotland because of anti-Semitic sentiment. Even in Polsnd of course the gentile’s doctor or lawyer was very likely Jewish….) So…. I am willing to believe a lot of the effective Zionists were tough thugs who took advantage of all their chances to put an end to anti-Zionism amongst the many distinguished Jews who opposed it. (Including, as a matter of interest, Australia’s first Governor-General who was actually Australian: Sir Isaac Isaacs**.

    Jews are like an indigenous upper or upper middle class in their nepotism and tribalism, but my impression is that Jewish tribalism/nepotism is a notch up from typical upper middle class behaviour for the fairly obvious reasons of hangover from historical discrimination and…. Israel. Some of my Jeeish friends are fiercely critical of Israel but a more typical mark of their loyslty is thst all their childten will spend time there.

    Just as most people have multiple identities (a pity some neglect most if them) divided loyalties is normal. Unfortunately, in the US, Jewish loyalty to Israel has led to the Israel lobby being one of the corrupting forces which together own just about every elected politicianin the US – especially in DC. Australia is an imperfect democracy where the money needed to get elected – especislly the union money on the left – tends to produce bad policy results, but the contrast with a country where vast sums have to be spent to win ptimaries and then again both get out thr vote and get the voters to vote for you is vast. I see about six major lobbies/sources of finance for elections; and on foreign policy, especially Middle East policy, the Israel lobby is absolutely in control at great expense to Americans as taxpayers and alternative beneficisries if expensive wars and subsidies to Israel were ended.

    I am less clear about Jewish responsibility for Amrrica’s misbegotten immigration policy from the early 60s, or its motives. I wouldn’t attribute much of the cheap lsbour motivation to Jews or Jewish influence but some of the Jewish support for multiculturalism would be down to a general desire to dilute the WASP influence in a perhaps unfocused way. Mind you it would be ridiculous not to notice that American Jewish fertility is almost as abysmal as that of those great Catholic countries in the Mediterranean. And marrying out is big!

    Over to you. Anything likely to be offensive to an old Jewish friend. Oh yes I think I would be willing to argue the affirmative in a debate “That Israel has succeeded South Aftica as would be civilised msintainer of an Apartheid state”. I would also, BTW, try for an ingenious novel one state solution where Jews had adequate protection.

    **I read an essay by a Chilean recently who pointed out what lefties were trying to make people forget about Australian history 1. The only [first?] country to obtain independent nationhood without anyone killed; 2. The only [first?] country to achieve and maintain unity without anyone killed; 3. The first country to elect a Labour government and Prime Minister, 4. The only country to have never had slaves or slavery (he quotes the admirable words about that by the first Governor before setting out for Australia. Lord Mansfiekd had already said in Somerset’s Case 1776 “The air of England is to pure for a slave to breathe” 5. The first (substantial?) country to appoint a Jew to command its armed forces – Sir John Monash in WW1 who, BTW, Lloyd George said in his memoirs he would have appointed to command all the British forces in 1919. 6. Isaacs as GG – who haf already been CJ.

  331. @Anonymous

    Your lack of knowledge regarding Australia’s history is monumental. The colonial settlers both massacred the indigenous people and enslaved them (obviously not the dead ones) which continued until not very long ago when aboriginal jackaroos (cowboys) were still paid in flour, coffee, sugar and tobacco. The convicts that were transported from England were essentially slaves too.

    Australia has only ever been an independent nation in name only. After “independence” it continued to be controlled by Britain until WWII when it fell under the control of the US which continues to this day. The CIA had a hand in deposing both the Whitlam and Rudd Labor governments and vetted Gillard before she was allowed to become PM. Australian politicians belong to a duopoly serving the US and Israel, which is the same thing really.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  332. yurivku says:
    @Liza

    Yes, of course Taras Bulba was written by Gogol (in Russian). However, he was a Ukrainian,

    These funny ukraninas wet and sweet dreams! Gogol didn’t write a single string of text on ukranian. Of course he’s great Russian writer who was born in Malorossia which now called as Ukraine.

    I’m a Uke but have nothing against Russians.

    Funny, I just consider “Uks” as bastards, betrayers, who sold their past for nothing and will get nothing in the future.
    They have nothing of theirs, Uk’s – no literature, no science, no music – nothing. Even Shevchenko had written all his prose in Russian. And except him you have nobody and it’s the reason to pretend Gogol was Uk, and Black Sea wad digged by Uk and all that funny stuff they now pour out to the world. And the same time more than 80% of them speak Russian including some of their goverment which is hardly strugling with Russian language. The theater of the absurd.

    They exchanged their great common history to sweet smell going out from American ass. No problem, go on. We’ll just look.

    PS: I usually not speak to “Uks” and won’t continue this thread neither.

    • Replies: @Liza
  333. @OilcanFloyd

    Being an atheist, I have no faith in a hereafter with eternal damnation, and neither do the jews that feed him, so I would like him to get his lumps right here in the tangible world where he has wrought his mayhem.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  334. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    They don’t even believe that sort of stuff in Fitzroy or Balmain any longer. Nor did Whitlam!

    As to slavery you don’t know what the criteria are. (Even Bob Hughes and Manning Clark at their irresponsible worst wouldn’t back you on that).
    I’m surprised you don’t at least make a misleading reference to blackbirding but you are obviously relying on a memory which creaks a bit. Here’s some help from a serious historian:

    Quadrant-October-2013-app-file.pdf

    [I refer to Claudio Véliz "Infamous Omissions from Australian History" p.7 et seq which you can get to on the Google psge from Googling "Claudio Véliz Hugh Thomas" where I landed up when looking for what was said to be Véliz's outstanding obituary tribute to Thomas (instead I got this 2013 tribute to Kenneth Minogue)].

    Incidentally I remember an elderly member of one of Australia’s big outback sheep station ownimg famulies who employed many Aborigines telling of the way they would just get up and go walkabout. Nit even my cinvict ancestors were enslaved. Their children were totally free and they were free of all restrictions once their sentences hsd been served – or well before in many cases.

  335. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    According to Ron Unz’s study of college admissions, that ‘slide into decadence’ has been going on for over a generation already.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  336. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Over to you. Anything likely to be offensive to an old Jewish friend. Oh yes I think I would be willing to argue the affirmative in a debate “That Israel has succeeded South Aftica as would be civilised msintainer of an Apartheid state”

    I note you use the word ‘civilised’.

    Is that because you recognise that the designation ‘Apartheid state’ would much better fit Saudi, Kuwait, the UAE, Qatar and others? It is clear that they are all built and maintained by slave labour, while Israel is not.

    Or is it perhaps because the discrimination against minorities in Israel pales in insignificance to genocidal events in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Yemen and even Jordan (previously)?

    Or perhaps because the general state sponsored degradation of those in the occupied territories is substantially more humane than that meted out to certain groups in long-standing insurgencies in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Morocco, Algeria and even Egypt?

    Now on this site there are two responses to this point. One, Israel gets blamed for all of the above in an obviously psychotic screed. The other though is to then compare Israel to Sweden, Holland and Norway.

    And I agree Israel is not as ‘civilised’ as Sweden, Holland and Norway, but then it exists in a rather different neighbourhood and a rather different context and I’m not sure were Israel more like Sweden that the Israelis would be alive.

    Nor does it seem that the Swedish are going to benefit in the long-term from their very high levels of ‘civilisation’. They will need to moderate closer to the world norm in order to survive.

    What would any non-white non-Western European country do in Israel’s situation? What have they done in similar situations?

    Because China is much more brutally crushing the Uighurs and has utterly crushed Tibet, must we boycott China? Or India, with its decades long multiple insurgencies? Or even Mexico where the narco war makes Israel’s forays into Gaza look like a simple parade.

    To have Israel stand out as anything but reasonable and exceptionally moderate in this world is to have one ‘civilised’ standard for Israel and Western European derived countries and another for everyone else.

    We all know that this bifurcated worldview is the dominant one in the West. It is what has led to the self-abegnation of all Western societies. The fact that Israel straddles the two standards, as does Russia, leads it to be an exceptionally controversial country. Even while, like Russia, by world norms it is exceptionally moderate.

    It seems that ‘civilised’ is one where any hint of Volksgeist has been banished and where Enlightenment is everything. Healthy countries seem to have a balance though. Too much Enlightenment and a country abolishes itself. Too much Volksgeist and it descends into utter depravity. Israel has currents of both although I’d contend it has rather more Enlightment than the world average and less Volksgeist.

    Nonetheless, since it has any Volksgeist it is therefore not “civilised’ like only white Western European countries are. Instead it is pretty normal.

  337. Sam J. says:
    @Rurik

    A perceptive quote by Putin on the illegal coup in Ukrainian by the Jews.

    “…they plunged the country into chaos, into economic and social collapse, into a civil war with enormous casualties…”…”…Apparently, those who constantly throw together new ‘colour revolutions’ consider themselves ‘brilliant artists’ and simply cannot stop…”

  338. Sam J. says:
    @ANON

    “… dopey amateur’s blundering around waving a few scientific factoids you make elementary errors like referring to the melting of steel when weakening is all that was required. ..”

    HAHAHAHa

    You’re either a buffoon, a liar or both. You don’t understand gravity. What a putz. What an illiterate. I suppose, since you don’t understand gravity, that you think you can fly! Listen.. This is not your dream. You can’t fly.

    I guess i will have to explain it to you veerrryyy simply. Very slowly. Gravity is a force that acts on ALL objects exactly the same. Exactly the same. You know Galileo and all that. Newton, basic stuff. There are only “two” variables that concern us on the behavior of something falling n a gravity field. The gravity field and the resistance to falling by the media, this means air, water, molasses, whatever, the object is falling in. Now we, in this case, are talking about air. So building 7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped, in air, for roughly 108 feet on 9-11. Now we KNOW that the gravity field is the same. We know the building fell the same as a rock in air and the building was in the same air. So if the building fell the same as the rock what held up the building? Remember only two variables and so if the rock fell and was held up by air and the building fell the same what was the build held up by…AIR. That’s right the building was only held up by air. Well we all know the damn build wasn’t floating in the air. We also know that the buildings columns were made of steel with concrete reinforcement at various places and was NOT boiled away by the tiny fire so that the steel columns had the exact same density as air, remember the build fell the same speed as if it were only held up by air, this means the builds support MUST have been demoed in some way. The building had NO support but air when it fell.

    All you’ve proven by attacking me about building 7 is you are either a dumb ass or a liar. Both are reasons that we should get rid of the Jews. I’m weary of the constant lies and distortions of the Jews. We must find a way to get rid of them so we can have some peace and quite away for these maniac psychopaths.

    I remembered this quote. I’m going to start using it a lot.

    Joseph Goebbels:
    On the “Big Lie”

    ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it…”

    Oooops. Unfortunately they always leave out the best part of what Goebbels said. He’s the rest of the quote,

    “…The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Looks like your lies are breaking down as the State is NOT able to…”shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.”

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  339. Sam J. says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “…I imagine that British Jews are more supportive of genuine free speech than the average Briton. That certainly is my experience…”

    HAHAHA the arrogance of these people. What buffoons.

    You know you don’t have to like, agree or want to have anything to do with the Nazis to recognize they damn sure nailed the nature of the Jews. Look at this fine quote by

    Joseph Goebbels:
    On the “Big Lie”

    ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it…”

    Unfortunately they always leave out the best part of what Goebbels said. He’s the rest of the quote,

    “…The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Looks like your lies are breaking down as the State is NOT able to…”shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.”

    The Jews are totally mentally defective. They keep lying even when everyone here knows they are. Even when it only serves to show how defective and untrustworthy they are. They have serious mental illness. This is just one reasons that we should get rid of the Jews. You can’t live with these sort of mentally defective people running around free and I damn sure don’t want to pay for them in camps or that high gas bill to burn them up. It would be cheaper to deport them.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  340. Sam J. says:
    @Francisco Menendez

    “…ZIONISM has corrupted Judaism…”

    That’s not true at all. I’m the biggest Zionist you’ve ever seen. I want ALL Jews to go to Israel and stay there, (with apologies to the Palestinians). As for the Judaism, it was corrupt from the beginning because it was created by Jews. It’s just the expression of their basic psychopathic corruption of the mind.

  341. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…I am less clear about Jewish responsibility for Amrrica’s misbegotten immigration policy from the early 60s, or its motives…”

    Sigh…another attempt to pretend that the Jews…well they don;t know…they weren’t really doing it to be mean…it was an accident, blah, blah, blah. Well I know. The Jew spent decades and lots of money to dilute Americans so that they could destroy the country. They did so out of hatred. They always hate everyone everywhere they go and attempt to destroy any country they live in. This is another reason we should get rid them. It’s the only solution to their lies and destructive behavior. Make sure they have no say in your society at all. If we do not do so we will be destroyed and likely they will also.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  342. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    Both American “immigration reform” in 1965 and the misguided “civil-rights” movement was spearheaded by jews. Emanuel Celler (a jew) was instrumental in pushing through the 1965 immigration act which closed off Europe to legal immigration while redirecting immigration to the middle east and third-world countries. This was done on purpose to destroy the social fabric of the United States. 99% of the “civil-rights workers” and handlers were jews. Although “non-violence” was preached, violence committed by blacks and their handlers was rampant, but almost never reported. then, as now, the mainstream media had its own “agenda”. The hatred of ordinary whites was evident. In later years, these civil rights workers morphed into race hustlers, poverty p!mps, and civil-rights attorneys, and are still wreaking havoc to this very day.

  343. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Sam J.

    You’re barking at your own reflection.

  344. @Sam J.

    Your position is simple and clean on paper but hitler found in practice it was quite difficult to administer.At this point the only pure jews are the hasid and orthodox which are the least troublesome sticking to their own mostly and fairly conservative even. The problem jews are practically all mischlings at least by this point.So youre talking about deporting half our elites married to the other half of our elites. Now of course this would be great fun and worth it just for the schadenfreude. But there’s not much of a record of revolutions of that level ever succeeding without elites co signing. It nice to imagine our own elites waking up and getting hard core racist but its really unlikely and more so if the object looks like them and talks like them and is married to their sister etc.

    The other problem is while Im sure we could get along without them, they have in fact contributed quite a lot with those high IQs, about 50% of our cog elites are jews it sucks but its true. Its also true east asians have a cog edge that we are in an existential war for universe hegemony. and jews could help with that- yes yes if they were not traitorous bastards and if it wasn’t completely unacceptable to have an overclass of other ruling whites. But what if we finished the job that ivy league romances started and fuck the jew right out of them. im fully cognizant even 1/8 jews continue to act like they are full jews but its also true their otherness does weaken problem is today we allow the flight from white to be rewarded if it were punished mischlings might begin to try to lose their otherness and we would keep the high IQ genes absorbed into our own high cogs. You might say it sound hard, not nearly as hard as deporting all the jews and deciding who’s a jews. the condition that would lead to deportation being possible would much more easily lead to assimilation laws.

    Whichever course you need to start the same. you need to convince the elites their multiculturalism is an existential threat to them not just prole whites, because the extinction of prole whites seems like a feature not a bug to elites.One way to do this is to use the jews natural paranoia. push the anti jew muslims movement and the anti israeli movement and morph the white privilege into the jew privilege point out that when jews are subtracted from whites its jews not whites who are privileged. basically get jews to turn on leftism force them to choose white nationalism with a carrot and a stick cut them a deal in return for working against multiculturalism they get white status.This will normalize it for white elites to join too. Now you’re in a situation where elites have signed on to the basic premise that western nations belong to western people which include the jews who have been living and contributing to the west for a thousand years or more.

    But heres the thing you have now established western nations cant afford this philosophy of universalism and have the right to be as particularist as possible france for the french, catalon for the catalonians, USA and australia for whites. from this place where jews have now lost their proxy armies of muds and white elites have returned to sanity you can now do as you want and take it the next step and ask the jews to leave or explain that the JQ was in large part responsible for the problem we just escaped and must be addressed jews must assimilate or leave. therefore certain positions will not be open to say jews of more than 1/8 others jews of 1/4 this will encourage many jews to leave but many will decide they were going to marry a goy anyway so why not move their child up in status, few elite jews are religious anymore and frankly we ought to get rid of all cuck religions so we could outlaw christianity and judaism eventually.

    point is whichever way you want to go youre probably best off first flipping the script on the jews and using the minorities and politics they imported against them to enlist them in anti multiculturalism. then youre in a better position for whatever you want to do with jews. the big question is just how much anti jew propaganda and what type you want to use for this tactic, if its to nazish you risk them digging in rather than flipping, but if you use the left to do the dirty work like they do then the jews run to you for protection and youre like but but white privilege.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  345. @Cloak And Dagger

    I’m not sure about what happens after death, but I’d like for McCain to take his lumps before and after death, if possible. An excruciating death followed by eternal sounds good to me.

  346. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “Please show us the actual German original of this alleged “order” to Speer.”

    Hitler ordered the compulsory evacuation of the entire civilian population of threatened western areas, by foot if necessary, 18 Mar ’45 saying “We can no longer take regard of the population.” He issued the ‘Nerobefehl’ the following day:

    “All military transport, communications, industrial and supplies installations as well as material assets within Reich territory, which the enemy can render usable immediately or within the foreseeable future, are to be destroyed.”-Adolf Hitler, Führerbefehl 19 Mar 1945;

    Implementation was tasked to military command (transport and communications) and Gauleiters (industry, economic installations). Speer objected, eliciting Hitler’s:

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker…”

    Hitler’s “resurrection of Germany” was a suicide pact.

    Sources: Speer in ‘Inside the Third Reich’. Ian Kershaw ‘The End’, Joachim Fest: ‘Speer’, most Nüremberg accounts (Gilbert, Galbraith, Taylor, Conot, Neave, etc: Speer’s defense hinged partly on his refusal to carry out the order). If memory serves, it’s also in Sereny: ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth’ and most standard histories.

    “Or did someone just fake it up …. as usual?”

    You mean like “engineer” Fred Leuchter’s professional degree and license? Good question Wally. Why not ask Dolf at your next séance (hope his headache is better)?

    “…standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a ‘gas chamber’ at Majdanek”

    The smoking gun! Well done!

    Some may insist it was used because Heinie couldn’t find a gas-chamber door at the local Heimdepot. False, false! Don’t you believe it! As we all know, gas-chamber doors are as common as – well, bricks and kitchen cabinets. Why, just last week Lowes had a sale on DeLuxe Jumbos with peep-holes and auto closers in genuine simulated oak-grain. Thought about upgrading, but still have several good years in the old one. Besides, heart’s set on a Dutch door version in knotty pine. One thing’s for sure. When the time comes you won’t catch me making do with a plain old shelter door! No siree!

  347. Incitatus says:
    @renfro

    “Ironically Germany did rebuild itself into the economically strongest nation in Europe..quite a feat for a population whose infrastructure was almost totally destroyed.”

    Postwar Germany is nothing short of miraculous. Germans deserve high praise. Rebuilt from utter ruin. Physical, industrial, economic, political, cultural, etc. All the more remarkable after suffering criminally incompetent WW1 and WW2 leadership.

    Jean Edward Smith: ‘Lucius D. Clay: An American Life’ is an interesting account.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  348. @Sam J.

    You can add that all buildings did have asbestos insulation, Potential lawsuits due lung cancer did play major factor in Silverstain agreeing with demolition, There were some reports that Silverstain did increase insurance coverage before the event.

  349. Liza says:
    @yurivku

    Thank you so much for your gracious response.

  350. Liza says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Such kindness to be found here at this discussion.

  351. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    You claim to be so certain about some important matters so i suppose it is fair to ask you for sources snd evidence that might support your views. I am not sure how far you apportion blame between Jewish support for the 1965 legislation and Jews sctually making the subsequent legal (and illegal?) Immigration happen. Perhaps you would be good enough to explain.

    And for a start can you please refer me to some good accounts of how the critical 1965 legislation came zbout both before and after it entered the legislative process? Which Senators? Which Congressmen? Which lobbies? Which opinion leaders?

    Then please the possibly less defined parts played in getting immigration to happen???

    I assume you would have trouble asctibing much Muslim immigration to Jews or the cheap Latino labor for the farms??? Then you might care to assess the weight I should give to what a Texan Catholic surgeon said to me nearly 30 years ago in favour of Latino immigration, namely good family values and an offset to the blscks. I don’t think he got those views from Jewish sources; do you?

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @Sam J.
  352. wayfarer says:
    @Anonymous

    Are you an AI-bot or not?

    If not, can you prove it?

  353. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…And for a start can you please refer me to some good accounts of how the critical 1965 legislation came zbout both before and after it entered the legislative process? Which Senators? Which Congressmen? Which lobbies? Which opinion leaders?…”

    Sure I’ll be glad to help you. There’s this thing called a search engine. A good one is

    https://duckduckgo.com/

    Now of course the Jew will complain that I’m not being specific enough but this is just another tactic. This tactic is first to give “task” to whoever they’re arguing with to sidetrack them from the basic argument. Once you give them answers to the “task” that they’re trying to derail you with then they will argue continuously about the facts of the “task”. Of course I will not waste my time as it’s common knowledge that the Jews were the lynch-pin on flooding the country with aliens. Anyone serious already knows this. If you really don’t know this then it’s up to the you to get up to speed on very basic information. I’m not going to teach you how to drive a car or read the weather or wipe your hiney on the internet.

    This continuous attempt to dishonestly interact with people constantly. A form of lying and distortion of the truth and a willful destruction of the truth is another reason we should get rid of the Jews. They can not be truthful ever. They can not control themselves with this deviant behavior that causes distrust online and fills the forums with disinformation. They must go.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  354. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    That seems to be a lot of words for what amounts to an admission that you can’t give a coherent substantial answer to a question I havs every right to ask of an American who claims to have certain knowledge. After all I am neither Jewish nor American. The issue could be important to any country and I expect an American who cares about it to be able and willing to say what are the good sources for his ideas. I can use a search engine but I asked for the sources *you* ate willing to credit. So, please, if you haven’t just picked up a family prejudice, would you answer me now as I requested.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  355. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    I donlt believe you’re not a Jew, as another Jewish trait is to lie and pretend they are something they are not and this quote,

    “…I havs every right to ask of an American who claims to have certain knowledge…, is about the most Jewy quote I’ve ever seen. Only a Jew would demand some right to was others time. But I’ll give you a hint because I’m so nice and such a great person, as Whites usually are. Whether you are or not demanding things from others as a ruse…we’ll see. Search for these four words,

    jewish influence 1965 immigration

    and here’s one link.

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  356. Sam J. says:
    @Colleen Pater

    “…Your position is simple and clean on paper but hitler found in practice it was quite difficult to administer…”

    We’ll just have to suffer. I doubt it will be as difficult as you say we have genetic testing and computers now. You could make a piece of paper encoded with the right proteins and one lick would tell you, Jew or not.

    “…The problem jews are practically all mischlings at least by this point.So youre talking about deporting half our elites married to the other half of our elites….”

    The elites are driving the country into a ditch. That’s feature not a deficit. I’m also not convinced this is true.

    “…Its also true east asians have a cog edge that we are in an existential war for universe hegemony…”

    Not me. I’m against Empire. It would difficult to defeat us in any manner if we spent the same proportion on the military and “civil defense” and ditched the Empire that does most of us no good. We don’t need lots of overseas bases. The technology has changed. I suggest you read,”Dennis M. Bushnell, Future Strategic Issues/Future Warfare [Circa 2025] ” he goes over the trends of technology coming up and how they may play out. His report is not some wild eyed fanaticism it’s based on reasonable trends. Link.

    https://archive.org/details/FutureStrategicIssuesFutureWarfareCirca2025

    “…they have in fact contributed quite a lot with those high IQs, about 50% of our cog elites are jews…”

    Evil geniuses are not something you want in your country. It’s NOT an asset. Lots of the people who are elite Jews in the US are there because of nepotism. We would be much better off with our own on charge. (Look at Trumps son in law. You think he should be in charge of all he is????). There’s plenty more smart people that are Whites than Jews. They are being discriminated against and kept out of power. Let me clue you in any attempt to tell me that we “can’t do without the Jews” for their intelligence or what they’ve, supposedly, done for us will just lead me to have contempt for you and your ideas as being foolish. I don’t remember the actual numbers on Jews vs. Whites in all these categories but I have read them and we don’t need them, at all. It’s not even remotely an issue.

    “…One way to do this is to use the jews natural paranoia. push the anti jew muslims movement and the anti israeli movement and morph the white privilege into the jew privilege point out that when jews are subtracted from whites its jews not whites who are privileged…”

    YES. Very good. I’m not negative all the time. I lately have been posting that we will lose the race for whites being the majority population. Ok. So now we combine with the immigrants and throw the Jews out. Get rid of the Jews. They don’t care about the Jews or the Holohaox or Hitler(they like Hitler) and so we should get together with them on this issue and get rid of the Jews. That would solve an enormous amount of our problems with the immigrants right there. I can live with immigrants if the Jewish blare horn media is not attacking Whites day in and day out proclaiming us all evil. I can work something out with the Mexicans, the Chinese, the Muslims, etc. I’ve been around all these people. We can make something work but I can’t work with a people, Jews, who want to destroy me. The history is clear. The Jews want to dominate everyone they are around and the more power they get the more vicious and murderous they become. It’s them…not us. They have severe mental issues. They don’t seem to be able to control themselves even when it hurts them and everyone around them. The act like a tribe of psychopaths as a group. I can not stress this enough and you can not live with psychopaths. They are just intolerable.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
  357. AaronB says:
    @Anonymous

    Right. The decline in Jewish intellect is already taking place, as Ron Unz documented. It’s an inevitable process – all elites decay. They rest on their laurels and get lazy. They’re not willing to make the effort anymore, and intelligence is fifty percent effort.

    I am also noticing a decline in Jewish tactical flexibility – the same old tactics are being used without recognition that the situation has changed.

    This is another inevitable way elites decay – they stick with the tactics that brought them to power even if they no longer make sense. Can you blame them?

    Power eventually makes stupid.

  358. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    Well that wasn’t so difficult was it, once you had got the silly stuff out of the way? As I have corresponded on and off with Kevin Macdonald via an egroup for over 20 years I thank you for at last putting me on to something prima facie substantial.

    Your absurd ascription of “Jewiness” to the words of mine you quote invite a derogatory response about the clarity and/or honesty of your intellect. After all you had already said in effect “don’t bother me if you are so wantonly ignorant: look it up for yourself” and I was clearly giving reason for saying your objection was misconceived. But, in reality, it is your manners, your lack of civility and courtesy, that most clearly marks you as one of the whites whom traditionsl white ladies and gentlemen will happily see disappear.

    The mention by Macdonald of the very early push to limit Jewish entry into elite schools reminds that a young relation of mine was recently sitting for a vsluable entrance scholardhip exam to a top academic private school. His father noted ruefully that the majority of the large number sitting appeared to be East Asians who had been tutored and coached for three years (no doubt an exaggeration but my young relative’s coaching had certainly been much less). I note one big difference compared to 1900 Jews. They are rarely from other than very small families. I like to point out to people who ignore numbers that in 1913 there were 2 million Germans born and 5 million Russians. Who cares about a few million killed or starved if you want to be able to stage a decent war in 1939? Same with the Japanese before 1941. I’m not making a particular point here to ram down your throat. But I do suggest keeping an eye on the numbers, including too longevity and marrying out. It wouldn’t do any harm to show an interest in inheritance taxes and tax havens too, not to mention the Ivies entry quotas (de facto or actual).

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  359. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    “Do the math”. Well you show me yours.

    Years ago when the assumptions I made were Ashkenazi Jewish avg IQ 115 (sd 15) and American Jewish population share nearly 3 per cent I noted that about 50 per cent of positions like major newspaper editors and successful Hollywood directors – and Wall Street bankers and lawyers – were Jewish it fitted well with the suppositiin that an IQ of 145 was about right for that level of attainment because there would be proportionately 17 times as many 2sd people compared to 3sd. So… 17 times 3 per cent gives you 50 per cent. Mind you, i noted not long after in Jim Collins “Built to Last” and “Great to Good”, his well researched books on what it took to build great businesses that Jews weren’t espevially prominent. Still, I think you might have trouble disproving the importance of Jewish intellect to America unless the East Asians have already dilled any gap.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  360. iffen says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Can’t undo the Jew, remember that.

  361. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…silly stuff out of the way?…”

    Silly stuff?

    “… As I have corresponded on and off with Kevin Macdonald via an egroup for over 20 years I thank you for at last putting me on to something prima facie substantial…”

    You’re telling me you’ve read Kevin Macdonald’s stuff for 20 years and don’t know anything about Jewish influence on immigration? I find that extremely hard to believe. So if he never ever talked about immigration what did he talk about for 20 years with you?

    “…Your absurd ascription of “Jewiness” to the words of mine you quote invite a derogatory response…”

    It would appear to me, and I bet plenty of others, that my characterization of “Jewishness” that corresponds with attempting to give “task” to people to complete, even if it is readily apparent what the answer is and widely known, is not altogether completely unlikely in this case.

    “… But, in reality, it is your manners, your lack of civility and courtesy, that most clearly marks you as one of the whites whom traditionsl white ladies and gentlemen will happily see disappear…”

    Imagine that. Jewish people, the very definition of rude, inconsiderate, pushy, non-feeling people, somehow having the obnoxious entitlement to complain about others manners. White people don’t need to give courtesy to Jews. They get none from them therefore Jews deserve none back. Jews have no business demanding courtesy for anyone. They refuse to act as honorable people. This completely callous behavior, demanding courtesy while giving none, is just another reason that Jews should be deported from the USA. We should get rid f them so we can have a courteous society. They undermine courtesy by making every interaction with them an unpleasant contest.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  362. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam J.

    A pity your experience and acquaintance has been so limited. There are many Jews who would recognise and squirm at your description of some of the others but apparently you.don’t know them.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Sam J.
  363. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous

    Or…. maybe knows them all too well. Most of Sam J’s comments are on the level of the Israeli teenager who made anti-Semitic threats to Jewish community centers and synagogues in the US. It’s a brand of hasbara troll. Or FBI.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  364. Stephen Miller is definitely good for the Jews. if most Jews thought like Stephen Miller, most of the 1488ers would drop the 88s. After all, nobody really cares that a disproportionately high fraction of mathematicians are Jews. It’s Jewish politics that drives them nuts.

  365. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    My criticism are of Jews as a group. You work together as a group with very little self criticism all the while unleashing a tsunami of daily 24 hour, round the clock, criticism of Whites you deserve every bit of criticism you get and MORE.

    I’ll tell you what you Jews stop your non-stop over 100 year criticism directed at Whites for 50 years or so then I’ll stop.

    This is another reason that we can’t live with the Jews. They constantly call on our better behavior, of which we have in abundance, while all the time knowing they will do none of the same. They deserve nothing from Whites but grief and condemnation for their treacherous behavior. We should get rid of them and save ourselves. Peacefully if we can get it but if not they should be driven out in any manner we can muster.

    The Jews have always done this. They think, well they won’t do anything in response to our psychopathic behavior until…they do. Then the whailing starts. Oh me, poor Jew me, I’m such an angel but the evil Whites are mean to me. Well I’m telling you it’s your behavior. Can you change? I don’t think so. I think you’re all mentally ill when it comes to getting along with people. It’s just not in you. Can’t do it, therefore we need to throw you all out.

    It would be nice if we could find the few that are like real people but we’ve tried that. Didn’t work. The only thing that works is to keep you away forever.

  366. AaronB says:
    @ANON

    At IQ 130 and above, top 2%, whites out number Jews 8 to 1 in America (not including Asians , which make the Jewish share of high IQ America even smaller).

    Jews have a mean IQ of 109, not 115. See Ron Unz.

    The mean IQ for CEOs is 115 – at this level, whites outnumber Jews even more. Most positions in journalism, business, hollywood, where Jews most predominate, require only moderately high IQs.

    Are you seriously suggesting David Brooks and Harvey Weinstein have IQs of 145 and above ? Lol.

    What is noticeable, is that since Jews have captured most intellectual fields in this country, standards have declined. Harvard is known for grade inflation and no longer producing educated students, Hollywood, that Jewish bastion, is known for producing shlock, and the NYT has masthead writers of the caliber of David Brooks.

    Obviously, Jews have captured these fields using collectivist and nepotism tactics, but simply cannot produce enough talent to maintain consistently high standards.

    The Jewish ascendancy dates from ww2 – do you find it odd that this coincides with a decline in standard across the board, and a general national decline under Jewish stewardship?

    Jews desperately wanted to rule, but simply don’t have enough talent, so they lower standards. They have lost the Mandate of Heaven.

    In technology, Jewish contributions are Facebook and Uber, which require little engineering ability and are mostly about advertising or breaking existing laws to redirect existing business to your model (uber), while white gentiles like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos seem to have cornered the heavy engineering and organization fields.

    People are noticing

    • Replies: @ANON
    , @Sam J.
  367. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    Hey Geo,

    It looks like you’ve reached a tipping point on Trump, Rurik.

    What has convinced you he has been lying all along?

    this is from one of my other posts on Unz:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-us-jet-destroyed-a-russian-t-72-battle-tank-in-self-defense-in-syria-2018-2?r=UK&IR=T

    if Trump goes down this road, he is going without his former supporters

    the neocons are the enemy of the US republic, and if Trump is going to serve that master, then he is also an enemy to the US republic.

    if Trump escalates the war in Syria, I think he should know that (many, hopefully most of) his former supporters would consider that a deal breaker. Trump was elected to end the zio-wars, not escalate them.

    I don’t care if he gives the ZUS economy 10% growth, and builds the wall and the stock market goes to unprecedented bubbles of fake wealth.

    If he sides with the Strategic Advisory Board of Genie Energy vs. the Rule of Law, and the people of the planet, then he’s also a minion of the Fiend, and I will not lend support to the Fiend, or its execrable little toadies. Quite the opposite.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
  368. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Thank you for that coherent and civil answer which achieved the rare feat on UR of answering me without misrepresenting or misunderstanding what I had said.

    The average CEO 115? Is that all S & P 500? Oh dear! Sell, sell, sell!

    Of course knowing of the Flynn Effect and life experience make it all more complicated than equating what is measured by IQ tests with some all purpose intelligence but I continue to believe tha.t one can make on average generalisations and predictions – as you do too I have no doubt. (I once had access to my secondary school’s records which contained, inter alia, many boys’ IQ scores. A particularly clever friend, whose intellect continued to sparkle throughout life both in verbal and mathemstical fields was recorded as having been tested at 183 and 137! So I am capable of sober doubt).

    Also anecdotally, a Chinese-Australian accountant told me 15 years ago that he was working in a firm with several Jews who complained that their children were no longer motivated to work hard. That may have been a response to learning that his daughter had just won a scholarship to a good academic private school!

    On a related matter I attribute a lot of the low grade SJW activity in the modern Anglosphere to the absurd expansion of so-called university education. On top of the loss of a class of sensible people with useful technical/practical skills we must have some pretty dim people teaching the very dim simplistic slogans and the delusion that their opinions should count in serious discussion.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  369. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @RobinG

    Smart thinking perhaps. Though why do you think the FBI would be interested in these sorts of threads? I don’t see much sign of Muslim terrorists being flushed out on UR.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  370. AaronB says:
    @ANON

    Well, if you write clearly how can I not respond clearly? It’s the very least I can do!

    Yes, one can surely make generalizations and predictions, but analyzing the composition of IQ – what it stands for – is a bit more difficult.

    Ron Unz documents the decline in Jewish high level performance – which is surely a decline in motivation. Complacency eventually sets in. Whites went through it too. Winning a scholarship to a private school – 50 years ago, no jew would be content with that lol.

    The democratization of university education is probably responsible for much envy and frustration on the part of the less qualified. Another ironic effect of modern attempts at improvement.

  371. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous

    Why, indeed… Not long ago, while discussing how Ron Unz nobly provides an unfettered platform for free speech, someone opined how smart it is of Ron to corral so many White Nationalists in this cyber padded room. (I paraphrase, greatly.)

    Just as FBI routinely infiltrates dissident groups, why wouldn’t they surveil forums of dissident thought? And as they’re well known for enticing and entrapping, why not suggest criminal actions to see who agrees? Like [violently] kicking all Jews out of the country, as Sam J repeatedly proposes.

    As we see today, while the FBI ignores or fumbles real information – the TIP a month ago – about the Florida shooter, they have plenty of time to hunt for phantom Russian social media agents (which must include all our friends here who lauded Trump for his [promised] foreign policy); and to harass US citizens for exercising their 1st Amend. rights – if they challenge the ADL. AIPAC, and Israel super-legal status.

    “This week, two FBI agents visited the home of a University of California Los Angeles student and asked them questions about their student activism for Palestinian rights.

    This is not the first FBI encounter reported to our office. However, the line of questioning reflects intensifying efforts to criminalize protected political speech and human rights advocacy. State surveillance of social justice movements is not new; it has been used to intimidate activists both historically and in the current climate.”

    https://palestinelegal.org/news/advisory-on-fbi-visits-ucla

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  372. IQ is certainly not everything for sure. Malcolm Gladwell looks at this in detail in his book Outliers. Terman’s “Termites” is just one example. Chris Langan with an IQ of 150 is another.

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  373. lavoisier says: • Website
    @ANON

    Hey…. why go to all the bother? Let’s make it up!

    I would prefer to ask the question and have it answered intelligently.

    If you think there is no bias in the awarding of scientific grants you would have to come up with a much more substantial argument than what you have presented. In fact, you presented nothing.

    And cut out the satire, you are not very good at it.

  374. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Is this replying to or commenting on anything in particular or just a cheerful morning fart? In fact the “150″ suggests you hadn’t quite woken.

    The name Chris Langam meant nothing to me so I Googled and Wikied. Not 150 but 190 to 210 in the tabloidish suggestions that he was the world’s or America’s clevrrest man. Ah sic transit gloria! It was only back in 1994 that Langan’s junior, one Ron Unz, was reported in the LA Times as having an IQ measured at 214. Don’t you remember that young Nosey?

    I thank you for the introduction. It does indeed tend to support your “IQ is not everything” even within a single country and culture. More generally a reminder about the “shoulders of giants” that can usually be identified. Langan doesn’t seem to have done much more than demonstrate clever eccentricity but that is still a reminder that there is an interesting story to be told – with intelligent theorising – about the fruitfulness of ignorance where it saves some genius from being mired in the conventional limited understanding of something. Perhaps Gladwell has some notes which would provide an opening glimpse.

    Your “Termites”‘ reference I suggest is not justfied unless it is justified to suggest that the obvious needs repetition, i.e. that not all high IQ people perform very well. Most of the “Termites” did.

    Were you as shocked as I by AaronB’s statement that the average American CEO’s IQ is 115? Presumably that wouldn’t apply to the two or three hundred biggest companies??? But a recent Australian business story of one John McGrath resuming control of the eponymous listed company in which he still had a 25 per cent holding after collecting $37 million when it floated made him sound like a very low IQ person – with just energy; charm and discipline apart from stupid gambling. It made me wonder about the likely problems of a company facing a changing world with a CEO who was only sharper (in the IQ sense) than 80 per cent of mankind. Along comes a 135 IQ private equity shyster with a 130 IQ PR whizz and a 145 IQ tax lawyer, just as the competitive and technological world seems to be changing…. Unless the company has a smart confident chairman who will replace the CEO promptly with a smart guy I would hope I had only stagged any shares in that company. N’est-ce pas?

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  375. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hey! Here’s a thought worth thinking because it suggests something testable.. It was prompted by the speed of Elon Musk’s achievements (he’s apparently not Jewish btw). What if that classic 7.5 to 8 hours in 24 need for sleep was in reality a need with a Gaussian (normal) distribution with something like a 1 hour SD around a 7.25 hour average. Mind you I see complications in the fact that sleep allows for several quite different things to happen; e.g. consolidation of memories; clearing out of biochemical waste/junk, muscle and joint repair etc. so it might be possible that someone could have a brain they only needed 4 hours sleep but die young because the cardiovascular system needed 8 hours. Such problems aside, I would expect AaronB’s IQ of 115 for CEOs is best explained by their typically requiring a lot less sleep than most people for adequate cognitive functioning. You can perhaps pick up potential problems that need attention or discover who amongst your staff have the bright ideas equally by being very sharp or by spending 15 per cent more time checking????

  376. @RobinG

    Just as FBI routinely infiltrates dissident groups, why wouldn’t they surveil forums of dissident thought?

    It would only be possible if such a search was directed against a specific individual, allowing for sniffers on both the transmitting and receiving ends of the stream. Mass dragnets from public fora such as UR field only the very dumb of posters, who are unaware of untraceable VPNs, untraceable email addresses, and stupid enough to leave identifying traces in their posts – and even then it would be an arduous and costly search. I work in the field of computer security and I can tell you that with the tools available today (even capitalizing on backdoors in Tor and other onion routers) it is neither worth the time nor money, unless you are looking for stupid patsies who are incapable of doing any actual harm, just so that you can indict 13 Russians as smokescreen for fruitless investigations – but I digress.

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  377. @anon

    Thank you for pointing out my errors and for reiterating the notion that IQ measurement has its uses but certainly isn’t everything. Cheers

  378. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    It seems from what you say that any half smart group that had reason not to like the FBI would arrange to flood the FBI’s detecting algorithms with loads of subtley designed junk.

    As it is many candidate groups seem to practise on us with manual, steam era methods and thoughts.

  379. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Thanks for picking up my reply which I don’t see having an @NoseytheDuke at the beginning. What do you think about the proposition I immediately followed with about the Normal curve of sleep requirements perhaps being up with IQ in explanatory power? I think we underrate the importance of only needing three to five and a half or six hours sleep for full effectivenesss. It is an interesting question IMO as to why health advice in serious media is always going on about our sleep deficits because we don’t get our 8 hours when there must be many senior medical people who get by with much less. I suspect that the general sleep deficit is in part caused by the pace being set by the 5 hour a nighters or just the 6.5 hour middle management….

  380. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    “…The mean IQ for CEOs is 115…”

    I think this one of the reasons for the decline of US industry. A lot of the aerospace companies used to have founders and engineering types running them but over time business people took over. I read a blog by a high IQ guy who studies these sorts of things and he said that, I think it was, at 30 IQ points difference that people have a hard time relating. They’re just on a different wavelength and don’t mesh well. I think the lower IQ of CEO’s is because over time they move towards a CEO that has an easier time relating to everyone around him. If you start the company you have less problem with that because you’re the boss period. Look at Lockhead-Martin. I don;t think the CEO has any understanding at all of what’s going on and a combination of that and cost plus has made the F-25 uncompetitive cost wise. The CEO used to run a bread company. There’s nothing wrong with that but I believe with a highly technical business you need a STEM type person with some smarts to run things.

    Oh by the Way the latest Florida school shooter is a Jew. Of course. The FBI should stop watching Palestinians and WN and watch the Jews. They’re the ones that keep shooting people, blowing up our buildings and getting us in wars.

    Just think id we had gotten rid of the Jews then all those kids would be alive. We don’t need to ban guns we need to ban Jews.

  381. Sam J. says:
    @RobinG

    “…why not suggest criminal actions to see who agrees? Like [violently] kicking all Jews out of the country, as Sam J repeatedly proposes…”

    HAHHA It’s certainly not illegal to suggest passing laws to get rid of the Jews. Yet. I’ve also said,”Peacefully if we can get it”. I certainly want them out no matter what. Their blowing up buildings and murdering children is becoming unbearable.

  382. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Okay. So what’s left is hasbara troll…… or what?

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  383. @RobinG

    Yeah, most hasbara trolls are well aware of these and other self-anonymizing techniques as are the bots they use.

    The NSA uses sophisticated NARUS sniffers to collect all the data they can on every medium – and supercomputers spend all their time separating the signal from the noise (the bulk of traffic) from what they call “chatter” with session reconstruction. The FBI does not have anything nearly as sophisticated as the NSA. There is a large NSA complex full of NARUS engines and AI sorters right here in San Francisco.

    Despite what you might read, the amount of data collected is so huge that it is rare to find anything useful in it. As with the Florida school shooting, the information was there prior to the attack and yet the FBI was unable to prevent it. The dark web is teeming with contraband sales, human trafficking, and pedophile networks, and yet, except for the rare sting based on externally obtained information, these illicit markets continue to flourish.

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  384. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    What I heard about Florida was that another student [says that he] contacted the FBI tip-line (Phone or web, IDK) to warn about the shooter, but the FBI failed to fwd the tip to the appropriate agents. If so, then no excuse, really. (Of course, this is getting muddied with the usual “second shooter” rumors. These conspiracy mavens can’t see the overriding effect of their repeatedly crying Wolf ? BTW, I met Alex Jones and a pack of his adherents at Bilderberg a few years ago. What a pathetic bunch of nuts and nitwits! )

    Despite what you might read, the amount of data collected is so huge that it is rare to find anything useful in it. Actually, I’ve always read that it was too big to be useful. That’s the position of Bill Binney and Tom Drake, and why they spoke out about their Thin Thread program being abandoned in favor of bulk collection.

    Thanks for your tech comment, but I wasn’t suggesting there was relation of hasbara trolls to dark web. Just, what is Sam J.’s motivation for demanding forced expulsion of all Jews from US? To discredit UR and discourage reading of comments here, seems likely. If we (you) rule out gov’t probe, what options remain?

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    , @Sam J.
  385. @RobinG

    Just, what is Sam J.’s motivation for demanding forced expulsion of all Jews from US? To discredit UR and discourage reading of comments here, seems likely. If we (you) rule out gov’t probe, what options remain?

    It is always hard to discern the motivation of anonymous posters on any forum. The hasbara trolls are easy to spot and their motivation is obvious. Recently there has been an influx of less obvious trolls, such as “Tammy” and “Elite-something-or-other”, who intersperse their comments with a few sane thoughts, and then veer off into the land of the insane. I suspect that their intent is to pollute articles with so much noise as to take them off track and into the ether. I just block them and don’t bother to feed the trolls. A lot of posters don’t agree with my approach and insist on engaging them, leading to extended exchanges of ad hominem attacks, further exacerbating the situation.

    I am not convinced that “Sam J.” belongs to this class of trolls (of course I have no way of knowing). I see him/her as someone who has very strong convictions about the solution to the problem we see with jewish control of national policies, and he has chosen extreme separation and expulsion as the only possible solution. He is supported in his views by Kevin MacDonald, a professor of psychology at California State University at Long Beach, whose well-researched study on what causes anti-semitism, comes to a similar conclusion.

    Perusing the review of his books at http://ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n3p28_Harrison by Peter Harrison, my eyes caught the following excerpts from that site regarding assimilation and expulsion:

    [MORE]

    Over the centuries, host nations have taken various approaches toward this group that refused to fully assimilate. Throughout Christendom the authorities tried to convert Jews, sometimes forcibly, and when this failed they often expelled them. The French experience, MacDonald writes, was typical:

    “In 12th-13th-century France there was a shift from a policy of toleration combined with attempts to convert Jews under Louis IX to a policy of “convert or depart” during the reign of Philip IV, and finally the expulsion of Jews in 1306. The final expulsion order is also a last plea for Jewish assimilation: “Every Jew must leave my land, taking none of his possessions with him; or, let him choose a new God for himself, and we will become One People. [Italics in the original]”

    Spain, to which MacDonald devotes considerable attention, proceeded to forcible conversions in 1391 and then to expulsion in 1492. However, many converts, or “New Christians” as they were called, continued to socialize and marry only among themselves, and to cooperate professionally with each other, so conversion had little effect on group behavior. This was a major reason for the Inquisition. But, as MacDonald points out, Jews in Spain were persecuted not for who they were but for what they did:

    “The real crime in the eyes of the Iberians was that the Jews who had converted in 1391 were racialists in disguise, and this was the case even if they sincerely believed in Christianity while nevertheless continuing to marry endogamously and to engage in political and economic cooperation within the group … It was not the extent of Jewish ancestry that was a crime, but the intentional involvement in a group evolutionary strategy.”

    Those New Christians who abandoned parochial loyalties and embraced the Spanish nation along with the Christian faith had little to fear from the Inquisition.

    In later periods, when European Jews were emancipated from the myriad restrictions of the ghetto, host countries expected Jews to assimilate completely. Instead, they soon faced the same dilemma as had the Spanish. As one Jewish historian writes, “Jewish Emancipation had been tacitly tied to an illusory expectation – the disappearance of the Jewish community of its own volition. When this failed to happen … a certain uneasiness, not to say a sense of outright scandal, was experienced by Gentiles.” Far from wholly embracing the larger society, many Jews continued to marry only among themselves, and to consider themselves a people apart. Rather than promote intermarriage, some zealous Jews advocated Zionism (Jewish nationalism) as a modern and non-religious means of keeping Jews apart from Gentiles.

    Many Jews recognized that such strong particularism was not acceptable to gentiles. Theodor Herzl, the main founder of modern political Zionism, regarded anti-Semitism as “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects … ” “I find the anti-Semites are fully within their rights,” he also wrote.

    Similarly, Chaim Weizmann, for decades an important Zionist leader and Israel’s first president, observed: “Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them … [This] reaction … cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that world; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration and we cannot shake it off.”

    MacDonald argues that it is this refusal to assimilate, even on terms of equality, while at the same time pushing a separate agenda, that finally leads to the harshest extremes of anti-Semitism: “A related common thread [in the European experience with Jews] has been that there is a tendency to shift away from attempts at complete cultural and genetic assimilation of Jews in the early stages of group conflict, followed eventually by the rise of collectivist, authoritarian anti-Semitic group strategies aimed at exclusion, expulsion, or genocide when it is clear that efforts at assimilation have failed.”

    MacDonald finds it significant that European nations have almost invariably proposed complete cultural and biological assimilation, but that it is Jews who have rejected this. “The fact that Western societies have typically attempted to convert and assimilate Jews before excluding them indicates that Western societies, unlike the prototypical Jewish cultures, do not have a primitive concern with racial purity.” MacDonald argues that Western societies are, by nature, individualistic rather than group-oriented, and that this is the perfect environment for any “outgroup” that pursues a collective strategy. By acting in concert, Jews can successfully advance particularist interests that may conflict with those of the host population.

    In comparison to the West, Jews have found it much more difficult to penetrate Muslim societies: “These ‘segmentary’ societies organized around discrete groups appear to be much more efficient than Western individualistic societies in keeping Jews in a powerless position … “

    It does give one pause for thought. “Sam J.” may be the representation of the increasingly emerging body of gentiles in this country that is reacting to the saturation of jewish action on our policies, and is probably the tip of the iceberg ahead.

    MacDonald argues that it is this refusal to assimilate, even on terms of equality, while at the same time pushing a separate agenda, that finally leads to the harshest extremes of anti-Semitism: “A related common thread [in the European experience with Jews] has been that there is a tendency to shift away from attempts at complete cultural and genetic assimilation of Jews in the early stages of group conflict, followed eventually by the rise of collectivist, authoritarian anti-Semitic group strategies aimed at exclusion, expulsion, or genocide when it is clear that efforts at assimilation have failed.”

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  386. Sam J. says:
    @RobinG

    “…Of course, this is getting muddied with the usual “second shooter” rumors. These conspiracy mavens can’t see the overriding effect of their repeatedly crying Wolf ?…”

    We have a one first person sighting of a person who knows very well the, alleged, shooter, talked to him while shooting was from another building and stated directly, positively and without hesitation that there was more than one shooter. We have another person with direct accounts that also says there was, she said specifically, three shooters. What information do you have that is different? Better? You saw something on TV that says different(owned by the lying Jews)? What do you not understand about this? Can you understand what it does to your credibility and the governments that they don;t seem to be able to see that which is obvious? What this tells me is that the Jews have now taken to shooting our children to attempt to raise enough furor to take away our guns. The problem is every time they do one of these false flags they leave clues and loose ends. More and more people know that there are people attempting to murder us and our children and the government seems to be incapable of doing anything about it, doesn’t care or is actively involved. How long before people decide that instead of just getting rid of the Jews they decide revenge is better and start randomly getting rid of them with violence?

    “…what is Sam J.’s motivation for demanding forced expulsion of all Jews from US?…”

    This is another reason that we should get rid of the Jews. Either they are just tremendous liars, which they are, or they are such lying manipulators that even when you forthrightly state why you don’t like Jews they think there HAS to be some super duper underlying conspiracy that REALLY says why. They can’t recognize the truth because they lie so much themselves. It’s Jews behavior. This is not difficult to understand at all. You behave very poorly and are not socialized to live with others. It’s like living with a deranged wild animal that periodically does some sort of evil mischief. The value of having you in any society is negative. You suck as people. You have little in the way of self control over the aspects of behavior that leads to civilization and peaceful living with your neighbors.

    I’ve said over and over that the reason the Jews should be thrown out is varied but mainly revolves around the fact that they act as if they are a tribe of psychopaths, and they probably are, with an aggressive destroy everyone else mentality, continuous lying, a marked tendency towards deviancy of the most sordid type, blackmail of our legislatures, corruption of the banking system, I could go on and on, just read my earlier post.

    • LOL: RobinG
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  387. RobinG says:
    @Sam J.

    Hard choice between LOL and TROLL. Just aren’t the buttons I’m looking for. (Like voting in the US, lol.)

  388. Sam J. says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    “…It is always hard to discern the motivation of anonymous posters on any forum…”

    Not with me it’s not. I tell you exactly what I think and in turn Jews here lie continuously and pretend that they are innocent little bunnys that never hurt a fly. In my mind condemning themselves even further into that which can never be part of any decent society.

    “…“Sam J.”…as someone who has very strong convictions about the solution to the problem we see with jewish control of national policies, and he has chosen extreme separation and expulsion as the only possible solution…”

    There is no other solution other than to get rid of the Jews. Peacefully if we can get it but as time gets shorter and shorter and Jews get more and more insistent of controlling Whites then more and more harsh methods may be needed. Whites have wasted far too much time on the Jews. Jews are the foremost problem in the US and Europe. You’ve turned our societal and financial position into a situation of extreme peril. Whites have been more than patient and have tried all manner of ways to get along with the Jews. None have been successful. One way or another you will go. Both of us can not survive together. If the “big” Jews attempt to take us over like they did Russia maybe the big Jews will get away but most of you will not. You should run for your lives now because the “big” Jews are hardened psychopaths,. Maybe some of you are not but the Jews in control will stop at nothing. You mean nothing to them. Oh you think that because you’re a Jew they will look after you but they won’t. They are using you just as much as they are using us and when they are through with you they will throw you away.

    MacDonald influenced me but way. way far less than you might think. He only added that to a long list of writers writing about the behavior of the Jews.

    “…The fact that Western societies have typically attempted to convert and assimilate Jews before excluding them indicates that Western societies, unlike the prototypical Jewish cultures, do not have a primitive concern with racial purity…”

    A mistake of which we are RAPIDLY learning to take account of. You will be surprised. You’re whole way of life is built around taking advantage of people who want to get along with others. Think of all your stupid lying, pointing to deceptive information, stupid “task” you try to give us and all the other name calling you do, How exactly would that work if we were like you? Not at all. None. You are making us like you. You will pay for what you’ve done to the USA. A large amount of people know what you’ve done. Eventually you will be thrown out and NO ONE will want you. No one. You will try to go to India and China and they will laugh in your face and make fun of your false tears. They don’t care. They have way less openness than we do. You are all idiots and you’re burning down your own house. What fools you are.

    “…It does give one pause for thought. “Sam J.” may be the representation of the increasingly emerging body of gentiles in this country that is reacting to the saturation of jewish action on our policies, and is probably the tip of the iceberg ahead…”

    There’s millions and millions of us and we want you gone. We can not stand much more of you and it’s 100% your fault. You’re an abusive aggressive people and your behavior as a whole is EXACTLY like a tribe of psychopaths. Read this short chapter about Stanley a Spath(Sociopath/psychopath) from the book “The Mask of Sanity” by Hervey M. Cleckley. Look at his silly assed adventures and stupid behavior. This the kind of shit Jews do. Like blowing up the WTC complex, random shootings, on and on and on with the deviancy of you people.

    http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

    All these tricks that you use, always lying, always trying to derail the conversation with stupid “task”, all this pretending that “you have no idea”, these are all classical psychopathic behaviors. Down to a “T”. Maybe you aren’t a psychopath and this was taught to you but that’s exactly what this behavior is. Spaths. Animals. I don’t consider psychopaths humans. They’re like smart lizards. They consider themselves the HIGHEST of humankind but I see them as animals. Only operating on instinct. Empathy is what MAKES civilization and you don’t have it. This is why anytime Jews get their own territory they create…nothing. A big fat nothing because they’re a bunch of psychopaths and if they don’t feed on someone else they feed on each other.

    There was a book written quite a while ago that had a theory about why civilization sprung up so fast like it did. “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”. Basically that the mind was not fully talking to both sides. A link explaining.

    https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/westworld-bicameral-mind-theory-real

    This theory is wrong. Here’s my theory. It’s the correct one and eventually all will see it as so because it’s so simple and obvious that it hard to dispute.

    Sam J’s theory of civilization,”Civilization came about because of the rise of empathy. This allowed people to work together”.

    My reading about psychopaths, Jews, the study of the Russian foxes that were breed over time to be tame, (civilized), and lots of other stuff is what influenced me on this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_red_fox

    The theory is very simple . This tameness is actually empathy. True you may lose some raw brain smarts to the enlargement of the centers of the brain for empathy but it allows much more in the way of cooperation. Much more important. Wild animals only have sympathy for their close kin. Everyone else is to fight or feed off of. Before people had enlarged areas in their brains for empathy there could be no way possible that they could build civilization. Think how many times you’ve been alone with someone and you could have killed them, taken their money and no one could finger you. Numerous times for most people but you don’t do this because you empathize. If you’re a psychopath you could just kill indiscriminately and it not bother you at all. Before civilization all humans were mostly psychopaths so there could be no civilization. The present Jewish cabal, tribe, whatever is just a bunch of animals that take advantage of others, think that others deserve it because they’re psychopaths and have half-functional animal brains. They think that everyone else is stupid but actually what they are is empathetic and want to get along. The Spaths, (Jews), have no recognition what a perilous path they are following because psychopaths have poor awareness of risks. They’re fucked up and by societies standards mentally ill. The Jews have followed a path of animals that take advantage of the goodness of others. As soon as people realize that they are doing this, that it’s just the way they are, there’s no way to change them, they are animals that have no intention of changing and like they way things are, they will get rid of them just like people get rid of psychopaths.

    As far as I’m concerned the Jews are just like any other wild dangerous animal. Like bears or a pack of wolves. When bears get too close to civilization we tranquilize them and move the them away. Get rid of them but if they keep coming back we eventually have to kill them to save ourselves.

  389. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    We’ve been addressed in the 2nd person. Has Sam J. concluded that we are Jews?

  390. You wrote:

    Has Sam J. concluded that we are Jews?

    Rather presumptuous of him. I am not and, I believe, neither are you, as he could have figured out had he taken the time to peruse our posts of the past many years, archived right here on UR.

    Well, he goes on my list of blocked posters, since he seems to be of the shoot-ready-aim variety rather than that of the thoughtful and well-researched poster, which greatly reduces the credibility of his contributions and not worthy of my time.

    Oh well.

  391. Sam J. says:

    Well I’m done. I’ll leave this thread to the Hasbara and those that believe that “if only we became more Christian we could repel the Jews”.

  392. Mokiki says:
    @anony-mouse

    Moriss Dee’s partner in crime is Joseph G. Levin Jr.

  393. @Sam J.

    Look Im not at all squeamish about the JQ, so Im not sparing anyone out of pity. But there are issues that your position glosses over I think for the sake of an easy psychological solution, but in practice will make what you want impossible. I am against ideas that cant actually have a likelihood of being implemented or succeed if there were. this is because i actually understand we are in a very short term existential crisis that only trump averted- no not that hes all that just that his election shifted the overton just slightly and disrupted the deep state just enough that we crossed back over the event horizon.

    Look I agree that whites alone would likely remain hegemony, though we have not the edge in cognition we seem to have an edge in how we apply cognition, But that also seems to be tied into our achilles heel of openness and trust. While jews certainly have been up to all the bad things we accuse them of they are such a tiny population they cant really rule the world without us, the chinese though not as smart are smart enough that with their huge population their gifted fraction could well do us in. Long term Im more worried about east asia. But I think if we would stop training and giving them our tech and business we could could keep our lead. yes jews are one way we could fight the slants, yes i get why that seems crazy, more in a sec.

    I too am against empire as we have been playing that game, and I certainly think strategically the political position of whites just wanting a home of their own like every other people is a good meme a great meme, its simple and hits all the ape buttons like fairness. That said we are at a singularity point it may be digital or genetic or just technical but the point is we are very close to a point where the next great technological leap will put the developers into absolute power forever, again absolute forever. what you do with that power is up to you, currently white cucks would probably share it, and no other people would do that, all other people would do with it what any other life form would do use it for their specific genomes advancement. this means if we don’t develop it we are dead and if we do before we get some sense we are dead. Currently the way this goes is western universities develop breakthrough tech then china runs with it.The other issue about Empire is while i don’t want to be the mideast cop for jews and oil corps, or the social worker in africa, the reality is if we don’t militarily maintain a position in places others will and we will lose access to natural resources like rare earth uranium etc, we are blessed with an excellent continental defence surrounded by oceans backed up with mountains deserts and polar regions and containing almost everything we need, just not everything. also armies that dont fight forget how to fight so as stupid as our wars are they at least keep us actually fighting i sometimes wonder if we go along with the jews wars for that purpose.

    Yeah blacks would not be the type of problem they are if not for jews, itd be like jim crow huh? except how did that work out? The fact is we cant afford to be supporting half our population because they are too stupid and violent etc to support themselves, we need all our resources to defeat the chinese.

    so you want to give everyone a dna test and ship what everyone who at all jewish out. 100% AKZ jews are 50% italian as it is. Here’s the problem hitler ran into.its really hard to ship that many people without humanitarian catastrophe which sets the world against you.He also found no one would take them, lets assume israel would and the arabs don’t start WW3 when they start arriving, which is a possibility because the arabs will know the western jew intelligentsia all moving to Israel is the end for them. But israel might not take them 2% of us pop claims jewish ness, by your dna test its going to be closer to the high estimate of 3% or ten million jews. That more than double Israels entire population. see the problem. ( and we haven’t even considered europe NZ AU CA etc, And what if China offered to take them in? The way you think blacks wouldnt be a problem without the jews, well the Chinese might think the jews would not be a problem without democracy and cucked white genetics. Chinese might say we could use the jews cognitive abilities but in our system and culture they would never be able to cause the problems they do , they dont look like us so cant be crypto we dont allow full citizenship to non Han chinese we wouldnt allow intermarriage and we are not cucked and we dot have democracy and rule of law that they could PWN.
    The next problem hitler had was a lot of jews are married to non jews.Ans while it might be easy for you to say fuck em thats what they get. They are white and citizens and will object which brings up the question of legality do you plan to gradually pass laws to make this legal or just sic the trailer trash on the jews extra judicially? remember you dont want the whites rising up in defense of the jews again. So these
    bagel sharks are going to sue you and not just them they have families white families, like the wealthier more educated variety of white family and they and their friends are all going to object and scream what about the children.the next problem hitler had was some of these people quite a lot more than you seem to want to admit are needed.or their family members are needed. Hitler knowingly had something like 600 high ranking jewish military officers. LOL but true. Trust me its going to be more than 600. what do you do about the good jews, you know the ones who actually get it they agree with the JQ they work against jews and they work for whites. Theres names we could bandy about the owner of this place UNZ for one is not exactly a white nationalist even a conservative but you got to give him credit he obviously thinks we have a point worth considering and a platform worth financing and defending. imagine the suffering forcing him out will cause him, now arguing over what famous jews are good or not is dumb but lets specify they exist and theres a lot more not famous ones as well. Sure sure i get its easiest to just say oh well but its only easiest when youre larping when you actually get to stuffing them on cargo planes its going to get messy. No of course Im suspicious of jared and Ivanka but so far nothing too bad but what about stephan miller. Hes def a WN but no hes not going to help us stuff jews into planes everyone has a limit. and this is something you have to understand a certain amount of jew solidarity is within the range a white would have and its crazy to expect them to go beyond that.
    Now you mention elites generally and how youre fine with getting rid of them all. Im sympathetic. but you need to think a bit harder. while i disagree with mecious moldberg that the proles are the problem, getting rid of our elites is like suicide a permanent solution to a temporary problem. elites are elite because cognition, you dont cut your brain out and expect to live. They have been brainwashed and need to be reprogrammed, guess what so have a lot of jews, yes at a certain point a brainwashed elite gentile or jew becomes part of the leadership doing the brainwashing even then have you ever listened to them theyre like 145 IQ and are total fucking idiots, they actually believe what they are thinking this means even most of the leadership of the left is for all intents and purposes completely brainwashed as much as the average progressive. Its really kind of hard to say who needs to be shot for treason and who needs to be sent for mental health help. One things for sure we have learned is simply changing whats socially acceptable whats socially rewardable what will raise your status can very quickly change hearts and minds.

    Bottom line is i dont think you can get enough whites to go along with your plan and if you could you would run into so many problems you would fail.If i thought it would work I would be ok with it.I think our situation is so critical we cant afford to larp with bullshit ideas like the fourth reich or neoreactionary patchworks we need something that in a few years can be adapted by average americans finally awake to the morbidity of leftism. exposing the JQ is a huge part of that because it explains what seems unexplainable. But i think jews have been affected by leftism as the rest of us. meaning they have dropped their religiosity they marry out they identify much much less as jews tha previously. I just think if we made it really a low status costly thing to be non white you could accelerate their assimilation and obliterate their separate identity in a couple generations say 35 years, if at the same time leftism was obliterated, and other non whites were deported they couldn’t use non whites or leftism anymore. Other non whites can be deported easier because all the browns are essentially here on illegally or quasi legal amnesty’s that were never adhered to and they actually have huge continent sized nations a foot away from our border. the blacks well I say we start to pay africa to take blacks convicted of crimes we just banish them after deporting all the immigrant blacks of course which is half of them. and we cut off welfare and pay for sterilization attrition blacks

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  394. Sam J. says:
    @Colleen Pater

    I can answer most all the things you questioned.

    “…While jews certainly have been up to all the bad things we accuse them of they are such a tiny population they cant really rule the world without us, the chinese though not as smart are smart enough that with their huge population their gifted fraction could well do us in. Long term Im more worried about east asia…”

    The question about Asia in no way has anything to do with the present deterioration of our position right now. Let’s say you’re in a fight where the other guy is stabbing you with a knife. It is prudent to worry about the other neighbor who might shoot you next month? Well maybe but you have to stop the guy stabbing you with a knife first.

    You mention they might all move to Asia. Well I’m not worried about that. Barring some strange set back in roughly 2025 the first personal computer with the processing power of a human will be made. Asia is losing population and will be having a much harder time expanding. China has shown little interest in conquering the world over their whole history. While I don’t believe genetics determines behavior completely, (average behavior over groups), I wouldn’t be surprised if it was over 50%. I think we can, just by staying put of their way, do ok. Let’s say the Jews go to China. Could be a problem for us but remember, they’re stabbing us in the back now. We need to stop the bleeding now. This type thought pattern is delusional and not rational. We need to do this, do that, do the other, don’t make people mad…have the Jews ever followed any of this? Hell no and by us following this, “what will people think”, path we’re about to be creamed. We’re losing. If you’re losing as bad as we are then it behooves us to try something different. Even if it wrong we need to do something different.

    “hegemony… is if we don’t militarily maintain a position in places others will and we will lose access to natural resources like rare earth uranium etc…”

    I don’t care about that at all nor do I think it necessary. You would have to prove this point definitively to be worth the risk of continuous war, everywhere. We’re maybe 5 or 6 trillion into the Jew wars now. How much would it cost to mine these from asteroids? Certainly much cheaper. Whites have an enormous range of territory now and can expand into space for any mineral we need. The USA actually has enormous amounts of rare earth minerals if they’d just allow it to be mined. The reason it’s not is it’s often combined with Thorium which is slightly radioactive. We could just gather it up and store it. We have done that already. There’s tons of it stored in barrels in the desert they buried.

    “…yes jews are one way we could fight the slants, yes i get why that seems crazy, more in a sec…”

    Yes it is crazy. To force the Jews to do as we wished would probably be even more difficult than just deporting them. I don’t want the Jews to do anything but get the hell away from us and leave us alone.

    “…next great technological leap will put the developers into absolute power forever, again absolute forever…”

    All common sense says it will not be humans in the driving seat when this time comes. More common sense says that the Jews torturing us now will certainly not help us then so they are of no use strategically.

    A lot of the vein you are digging makes no sense at all…let’s see people who for all purposes act as a group like a tribe of psychopaths are somehow going to help us fight off some undetermined threat in the future from some source that you have yet to determine the magnitude or direction of the threat. And people say I’m paranoid!

    “…jim crow huh? except how did that work out?…”

    It worked just fine. I know for an absolute fact as I lived under the last of it where it was active. I also know it worked in South Africa. The trouble has been when it stopped.

    “…Here’s the problem hitler ran into.its really hard to ship that many people without humanitarian catastrophe which sets the world against you…”

    Hitler made a mistake. He should have shipped them war or not. We should do the same. If the Arabs kill them it’s the Jews fault for being so evil to them and us. Not my problem. They should have thought about that before they destroyed the US and Europe. The Jews have little in the way of strategic sense. They think they can keep ripping people off forever and then just move about as they have done in the past. I as a White Man am not responsible if the Jews have fucked up and placed theirselves in great danger because of their fucked up behavior. I’m not responsible for them at all in any way. They did what they’ve done over and over to themselves.

    “…israel might not take them…”

    We will force them. If we have to we will dump them in the Med. in rubber boats and point the way. If the Jews kill them…it’s on them.

    “…Chinese might think the jews would not be a problem without democracy and cucked white genetics…”

    Let the Chinese have them. Good riddance. What if instead of Jew wars we spent all this money on civil defense and military defense? It could be very robust, very.

    “…next problem hitler had was a lot of jews are married to non jews…”

    The numbers can be jiggered but he’s some to start with. If 50% or more Jewish, you’re deported with your parents. If they won;t take them then I refer you to the rubber boats. If less then you can stay but will be kept track of and will not be able to marry anyone in the same class until you are diluted to 1/128th Jewish then they no longer keep track. If you disobey the rules you’re deported.

    “…Theres names we could bandy about the owner of this place UNZ for one…”

    Yeah I hate that but…he has limits to what he’ll do for Whites I believe. If Jews take over the country would he put his life on the line for me? You know the answer. One subtext to this is to take an individual Jew and cry over them, ok I get that but Jews don’t operate that way so why should it be expected of me? It shouldn’t. I have just as much right to be clannish and only look after my people as the Jews do no matter what the consequences for the other. I have said over and over that we will become more like them in defense so I don’t want to hear complaints about what they have driven us to do to protect ourselves. It’s makes no difference. If you kidnap someone, put them in a ring thinking you will use them for sword practice then all of sudden you realize that they are master swordsmen and they start cutting you to pieces it’s hardly fair for you to call for a time out. I mean you forced the situation. I feel the same way about the Jews. They didn’t have to do what they did.

    “…Now you mention elites generally and how youre fine with getting rid of them all…”

    The idea that we get rid of some elites that are collaborating with the Jews says nothing, nothing at all about getting rid of all elites. Many people who would be elites are not because they are not collaborating or are not willing to behave in the desired manner. We’ll get better elites. They can’t get much worse at this point. I bet, like Buckley said once, that we could get random registered voters and they could run the country better than the elites we have now.

    “…Bottom line is i dont think you can get enough whites to go along with your plan…”

    YET! You have to start somewhere and a well argued and set position, as I have, is a start.

    “…But i think jews have been affected by leftism as the rest of us…”

    It’s way more than leftism. You should know better. It’s a very large part of the population of Jews that knows they are deliberately destroying the country. They know. I bet 80% know what they are doing.

    “… I just think if we made it really a low status costly thing to be non white you could accelerate their assimilation and obliterate their separate identity in a couple generations say 35 year…”

    People much more impressive than you or I by a long shot have been dealing with Jews for thousands of years and best as I can tell the only way to stop them is to get rid of them. It has been proven to work every time with great success. Let’s try it. Even if it fails we could spared a lot of derogatory comments by the Jews that I have heard enough of already.

  395. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Sam j.you are not a troll.i thought you were but have changed my mind.neither are you white.

    Sam j is neither

    1. A troll
    2.or white

    So what is sam j who writes these magnificent posts of incitement or is it enticement.so what are you promising for jews…..the promised land over in eretz.baruch hashem

    In reality sam j you are a chipmunk

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