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In response to the overwhelmingly partisan censorship on major social media platforms against conservatives, I drafted a proposal to ensure American’s lawful speech would be protected by an exceptionally light-touch Federal statute. One would think that, after having called for something to be done for years, at least one major conservative media outlet would have contacted me to do a story on my proposal. You would be wrong (although The Gateway Pundit did publish the original media release, to its credit—Conservative Paul Nehlen Proposes Free Speech Legislation for Social Media Giants, by Jim Hoft, December 17, 2017.] The only outlet to contact me with questions was VICE.com, which provided surprisingly good questions for me to answer. However, when the reporter wouldn’t guarantee that VICE.com would run the full answers or even any of the responses or the questions, I turned to VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow to see what he would do.

If you are reading this on VDARE.com now, you have your answer.

To familiarize you with the proposal that I sent to over 800 “American journalists” on December 14, 2017, here it is in its entirety. Directly following it is the questions sent over by VICE.

Delavan, WI — Republican U.S. House candidate Paul Nehlen is the first candidate or elected official willing to stand up and propose a legislative solution to the problem of censorship of Americans’ lawful speech on social media.

“We need a federal law prohibiting censorship of lawful speech on major social media platforms,” Nehlen asserts. “It is well-known that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube discriminate against the right-wing, as evidenced by FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s recent comments. While widely heralded for those comments, they rang hollow with no suggested solution. This law is that solution. It will extend Americans’ First Amendment free speech protections onto major social media platforms.”

“We are not extensively regulating or ‘trust-busting,’” Nehlen explains, “because people generally like how the platforms perform in terms of functionality. This law will not interfere with features or functionality, so market forces will remain in play. The problem is their censorship of lawful speech. Hypocritically, the same companies that support net neutrality also want to censor your speech. We say no.”

For purposes of this legislation, “censorship” includes:

  • Denial of platform access and normal use thereof (e.g., lockouts, suspensions, bans)
  • “Shadowbanning”
  • Issuance of “verified” status based on any factor(s) unrelated to identity authentication
  • “Throttling” accounts and/or content without disclosure
  • Embargoing content (i.e., no “memory-holing” content without the consent of the creator)
  • Manipulating “trending” algorithms without disclosure
  • Demonetization

“Lawful speech” is based upon the standards enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, with the following limitations:

  • No child pornography
  • No explicit, credible threats of physical violence
  • No publishing any individual’s nonpublic residential address, telephone number, or email address without their consent
  • Platforms may choose to prohibit otherwise-lawful pornographic video (i.e., video containing explicit sexual acts)
  • Restrictions on copyrighted content are already addressed by the DMCA

“Major social media platforms” means social media platforms that enjoy a market share above a minimum threshold level. At present, it would include Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit. (Smaller platforms and message boards will not be affected.)

The legislation would impose company fines of $500,000 per instance of wrongful censorship, and would be enforced by the FCC. Judicial remedies (both monetary and non-monetary) may also be available to aggrieved parties.

“The bedrock of American society is freedom of speech. Social media companies have usurped this freedom, and we intend to give it back to the American people,” says Nehlen.

“This is just one more instance where Paul Ryan has shown he isn’t getting the job done in Washington. The GOP’s voters are being systematically censored off of the primary channels of public communication by left-wing tech giants, and Ryan — indeed, the entire GOP Congress — has sat utterly mute for years and allowed it to happen. In the absence of leadership, I willingly step into the breach.”

And now for the Q&A on the proposal that VICE could have published:

[Links added by VDARE.com]

VICE: Can you define lawful speech?

Lawful speech is speech that is protected by the United States Constitution. As a general matter, if you can be arrested for it, it’s not lawful speech. If you cannot be arrested for it, it’s lawful speech.

Some speech is lawful until such time as a court of law issues an order declaring it otherwise. One such example is defamation (libel and slander). If X makes a defamatory statemen t about Y, that speech is treated as lawful until such time as Y obtains a court order declaring the speech defamatory (and thus unlawful).

VICE: Do you see your proposed legislation as a federal law or an amendment to the US Constitution?

A federal law. We already have the First Amendment, though private companies are not required to follow it. They are, however, bound by federal statutes. This legislation will require major social media platforms to respect Americans’ First Amendment protections.

VICE: These are private organizations. Are you suggesting the government regulate how private organizations function?

This is a bizarre question, in that government already regulates how private organizations function all the time, in myriad ways. For example, when OSHA says to private construction companies “all construction workers must wear a hardhat on site,” is that not government regulating how private organizations function? Of course it is. Entire industries have copious laws and regulations detailing what all private businesses within that industry must (and must not) do. Publicly-traded corporations must comply with mind-boggling numbers of laws and regulations relating to virtually every aspect of their internal and external operations. So government regulation of private entities is hardly some kind of newfangled concept.

VICE: Isn’t censorship, by its very definition, something the government does?

Not exactly. Censorship is the suppression of communication, and can occur in a wide variety of contexts. Censorship is indeed something the government does, but it is not something that only the government does.

VICE: Why do you believe that a private organization choosing what content it wants to publish on its platform is censorship?

Because, as I mentioned, private organizations can engage in censorship in the same way the government can, a company selecting what content it wants to publish is, technically, suppressing the content it does not want to publish. But we don’t generally have a problem with that, because people understand that such curations are made in order to present the most impressive of the lot, or the most topical, the funniest, the very worst, or whatever the criteria for selection happen to be. There may also be physical restrictions that necessitate such curation (e.g., limited space).

But that process (curation by the company) is not actually what is occurring on social media platforms at all. The companies are not choosing what content to publish. I’ll explain:

Unlike, say, the op-ed section of a newspaper — in which people send in letters and the newspaper reads them and then decides what to publish — on social media platforms the content is not pre-screened, so the company exercises no editorial control. Rather, anyone can post (i.e., self-publish) their speech simply by clicking the “Post” button, at which point the speech has been uttered, without any pre-screening by the company.

One might then ask whether requiring a company to keep lawful user-published content on the platform is equivalent to forcing the company to speak a message it does not wish to speak. The answer is no, it is not forcing the company to speak, and the reason is because the company is not the one speaking.

Nobody reasonably believes, for example, that a user’s post on Twitter is Twitter’s own speech. If a user, Fred Jones, tweets “I want to assassinate Trump,” nobody goes around pointing to it and saying, “Oh my God, Twitter wants to assassinate Trump!” The speech is quite obviously Fred Jones’ speech, not Twitter’s. It does not, by virtue of being posted by Fred Jones, magically become Twitter’s speech in addition to Fred Jones’ speech.

So, to return to your question, but with the proper framing for the social media platform context, you are asking whether, for instance, a company’s deletion of already-posted user content would be considered censorship. The answer is, once again, yes. But because the user content is not the company’s own speech, there is no compelled speech issue, and Congress is free to pass legislation placing limitations on a company’s ability to censor user content on its platform.

Note that nothing about this legislation imposes any new limitation on any of these companies from speaking, as a company, about anything they wish, or through any medium they wish; thus, the company’s own freedom of speech remains fully protected.

VICE: Do you believe your proposed legislation limits the ability of private organizations to operate independently of government control and regulation?

Again, this is a rather bizarre question, in that every law and every regulation that applies to a private organization “limits [their] ability…to operate independently of government control and regulation” to some degree. In some cases, that limitation is very minimal. In other cases, it is much more substantial. Different industries have varying amounts of laws and regulations they must follow. The social media industry, perhaps surprisingly (because of its importance in the day-to-day lives of so many Americans), has very few industry-specific laws or regulations. This has allowed a great deal of innovation, but it has also allowed these companies to treat their users quite poorly, arbitrarily, and capriciously, disrupting their access to the platforms with no explanation and no meaningful recourse.

So, to answer your question as to whether this legislation limits the ability of major social media platforms to operate independently of government control and regulation, I think the answer has to be no — unless you believe that functional monopolies that control the primary channels of public communication ought to be in the censorship business.

VICE: Can you define “explicit, credible threat of physical violence” and how it might differ from other violent threats?

“Explicit”: The threat must be clear and unambiguous on the face of the content itself. If a stranger were to look at the post out of context, would he/she conclude its text includes a threat to commit physical violence against another person(s)? (As a rule of thumb, if you have to ask “is that a threat?” then no, it is not an explicit threat.)

“Credible”: Whether a reasonable person would believe the threat to be genuine. If you’re not thinking you need to call the police over it, it’s not credible. If it’s just some anonymous account saying “I’m going to rape you,” or “die f—-r” with nothing more, use block or mute and learn to ignore it; it obviously isn’t credible. Generally, whether a threat is credible can be determined from the face of the post and any preceding posts in the interaction.

If it is explicit and credible, then it’s also illegal, so report it to the platform and they can look into it, and contact law enforcement if needed. (Since the social media companies won’t have nearly as many frivolous reports to sift through thanks to the legislation, they’ll have ample human resources to review these more occasional credible threats and give them close attention.)

VICE: Does telling someone to “eat a bullet” rise to the level of a credible physical threat?

Obviously not (if only because that phrase means they ought to commit suicide).

One of the many reasons that censorship has gotten out of control is that people have developed a tendency to intentionally engage in bad-faith “interpretations” of what is said—often in contravention of all logic and common sense—in order to pretend that they’ve just been the victim of an explicit threat.

Again, as a rule of thumb: If you find yourself replying to someone, “Is that a threat?” then it wasn’t actually a threat. If you’re on the receiving end of an explicit, credible threat of physical violence, it would be obvious to anyone, not just you and/or your friends and followers, and you might even want to call the police about it before you report it to the platform. Short of that, handle your interpersonal conflicts on social media by controlling your own experience with the block and mute features available, instead of seeking to control someone else’s experience on the platform by attempting to get them censored.

VICE: What’s the market cap at which point you see a private industry becoming a public one, subject to these regulations?

Most likely, slightly under where Twitter currently is. Other than the “big three” (Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter), the others aren’t even close to rivaling Twitter’s share. There appears to be very little chance of any companies currently below the threshold growing big enough to trigger it for the foreseeable future.

VICE: You said Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook “discriminate against the right wing.” Can you provide specific examples?

There are so many examples, I’d probably have to express the number in scientific notation.

It is widely known that censorship on major social media platforms disproportionately affects the right-wing, and it would take real cheek for anyone who has been around these platforms for a while not to stipulate to such an obvious fact. But regardless, I think that misses the more important point, which is that censorship of lawful speech s hould not be occurring at all, to any side, in the new de facto public square. It is just as disruptive, just as upsetting, and just as abusive when it happens to someone on the left-wing — and make no mistake, it happens plenty. These are megacorporate monopolies that benefit from anticompetitive forces such as “network effects” (which are at their apex in the social media context) to give them an absolute lock over the primary channels of public communication. This has led to widespread abuses of power, the arbitrary and capricious silencing of millions of Americans, and an unprecedented chilling of expression and infantilization of the public that is dangerously incompatible with American free speech values.

It needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.

Paul Nehlen is a turnaround specialist, business executive, and inventor who started on the factory floor, who, with God’s grace and some determination, rose to lead Fortune 500 manufacturing businesses around the world. Nehlen challenged Speaker Paul Ryan in Wisconsin’s 2016 First Congressional District to stop Trans-Pacific Partnership and secure America’s border. He lives in Delavan, Wisconsin.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Dan Hayes says:

    I’m pleasantly surprised with the intellectual and political perspicacity of Nehlen’s original media release statement but more importantly his responses to VICE.com and inter alia VDARE.com.

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  2. Randal says:

    Excellent to see you addressing one of the biggest issues of our time, and one that is slipping by mostly unaddressed by the conservatives, and “conservatives”, who have most to lose from it. Well done, and good luck.

    Some kind of law like this, which makes the big social media companies effectively common carriers of speech and binds them to protect the First Amendment rights of those using them, seems to be one of only two plausible solutions to the present threat of mass censorship. The other would be to build up conservative alternatives to the big social media corporates, and that seems a big ask in the face of the advantages of mass market presence in this field. Both should clearly be pursued, with urgency.

    Your answers seem generally good. It will be interesting to see what refinements can be made in response to any criticisms that do come up. I hope you will persist with this in the face of the inevitable resistance that will come, both from those on the left who want to define dissent as “hate speech” and suppress it, with the eventual goal of establishing it as an exception to First Amendment protection, and from the “conservatives” whose real priority is tribal self-interest and solidarity.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    This guy should win an election. Unfortunately it’s unlikely, but his first step would be primarying Ryan, which in itself would be sweet. A guy who understands the issues so well should win the highest office eventually.
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  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Nehlan the Christian, currently the most hated man by the Jewish community.- I wonder if the Jewish-Christian divide was really about race: most Christians came to be gentiles.

    Suppose Christianity hadn’t gone the Paulian way. Suppose the followers of Jesus preached mainly to fellow Jews and intended their movement to be a reform religion meant mainly for Jews.
    There would surely have been much acrimony between the two groups, but maybe it wouldn’t have become so unsolvable if the conflict had remained among Jews. It’s like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans.

    But Christianity passed onto gentiles, and most Christians were not Jewish converts/reformers but non-Jews who took up the faith. So, the conflict between Judaism and Christianity went from differences of theology to differences of ethnology. And matters of blood are always more deeper and more dangerous than matters of ink.

    Religious Jews in Israel can tolerate and even accept secular Jews, communist Jews, and all sorts of non-observant Jews as fellow tribesmen, but they reject even the most Philosemitic non-Jews as members of the community. Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses.

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    What?????
    , @Bill
    There are several different Jewish ethnic groups.
    , @Jake
    "It’s like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans."

    " Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses."


    Obviously, if Christianity had remained an ethnically Jewish thing, the Jewish hatreds for it would have been greatly lessened. And perhaps non-existent. Jewishness is based on faith in lineal descent from Abraham, and as the New Testament makes clear, by the time of Christ, the Jewish religion as practiced had become very much a 'racist' religion. Judaism was about blood and kinship, and its lines were so strongly drawn that even the half-ethnically Jewish Samaritans were despised as filthy, as polluted and polluting trash with no hope of being any better because they possessed the wrong blood, the wrong genes.

    And you can see that today. A few years ago, in a other town, I had a friend who was half Jewish: through his father. As a young adult, he became Christian. And that meant he became pariah to virtually all of his Jewish kin, the atheists as well as the religious. Theyb all accepted other half Jews as Jews, but they did not accept him being Christians. He noted many cases of synagogues still accepting people as Jews not just if they were public atheists, but also if they joined another religion - with 1 exception: they could not be Christian and Jewish.

    So it seems that Jesus the Christ causes Jews to go totally bonkers and become at least as vicious as did the half-breed Samaritans.

    As for German Catholics and Protestants - after the Kulturkampf, which was Bismarck's nearly successful attempt to exterminate all Catholic Church ability to oppose anything done by government, an increasing number of German Catholic bishops became publicly supportive of Modern secularism, which means over time they became almost as Liberal as German Protestant leaders.
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  4. Paul Nehlen and Unz.com have to form a partnership. This guy is the real deal.

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes, geokat62
    • Replies: @geokat62

    This guy is the real deal.
     
    That's why The Lobby would like to see his head on a platter; he's not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson's finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy because putting people like Paul Nehlen in Congress is how the American people can start to truly drain the swamp.
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  5. @Randal
    Excellent to see you addressing one of the biggest issues of our time, and one that is slipping by mostly unaddressed by the conservatives, and "conservatives", who have most to lose from it. Well done, and good luck.

    Some kind of law like this, which makes the big social media companies effectively common carriers of speech and binds them to protect the First Amendment rights of those using them, seems to be one of only two plausible solutions to the present threat of mass censorship. The other would be to build up conservative alternatives to the big social media corporates, and that seems a big ask in the face of the advantages of mass market presence in this field. Both should clearly be pursued, with urgency.

    Your answers seem generally good. It will be interesting to see what refinements can be made in response to any criticisms that do come up. I hope you will persist with this in the face of the inevitable resistance that will come, both from those on the left who want to define dissent as "hate speech" and suppress it, with the eventual goal of establishing it as an exception to First Amendment protection, and from the "conservatives" whose real priority is tribal self-interest and solidarity.

    This guy should win an election. Unfortunately it’s unlikely, but his first step would be primarying Ryan, which in itself would be sweet. A guy who understands the issues so well should win the highest office eventually.

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    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @iffen
    but his first step would be primarying Ryan

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.

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  6. Mr. Nehlen is spot on and articulate to boot. May he gain a wider audience. But he will not persuade those for whom free speech and reason itself are manifestations of evil whiteness.

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    And that's just fine - because the "goal" will not and should never be to "persuade" them. It was clear a long time ago that their arrogant, domineering, morally dishonest, utterly hypocritical, disastrously-stupid, ruthless nation-wrecking evil will not ever yield to "persuasion".

    The "goal" is now to defeat and destroy them - before they destroy us all.
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  7. polistra says:

    The social media carriers are smart. They will find a way to evade this law before it’s even passed. More importantly, the carriers are wholly-owned branches of CIA and NSA, which means they are immune from all laws. They own the blackmail dossiers on everyone, so they have absolute freedom of action.

    Wikileaks and O’Keefe are doing a much more effective job. By exposing the BLACKMAIL TACTICS of the spy network in detail, they are making the TACTICS unusable.

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  8. …unless you believe that functional monopolies that control the primary channels of public communication ought to be in the censorship business.

    This is the money quote, and the answer is “no.”

    There are adequate precedents, historical examples, of our elected representatives stepping in and breaking up or regulating private entities that have become too big for their britches. Such is the obvious case now with Facebook, Twitter, etc.

    This proposal or something like it needs to happen. If it does not, that will be evidence that we have indeed lost America and the future of our people.

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  9. The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.

    The problem is government. More of it is not the answer. It is government education that has produced a nation of morons. Government granting banks a fiat currency has produced bad money. Government being beyond its constitutional constraints everywhere you look has destroyed the free market.

    One unintended consequence of this law will be to take the air out of alternative social media platforms. I do not want confidence “restored” in twitter.

    The only agreement I would have is enforcement of fraudulent and deceptive practices. If I claim to be doing a poll, take advertising money on that basis, but then just make up the results I want, then I am guilty of fraud and deceptive practices. That is what these social media frauds are doing.

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.

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    The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.
     
    Bingo!
    , @jacques sheete

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.
     
    Yup. "Der oughta be a laaawww.."

    The problem is faith in politicians. Where do people get their faith? I admit that the guy sounds good, but since when does any of that matter?

    , @Twodees Partain
    " I do not want confidence “restored” in twitter. "

    Exactly my thinking. What has gone wrong with conservatives that they all think more federal control is the answer to everything they see as a problem? Reading the rest of the comments, I see a bunch of big government liberals who pretend to be conservative by voting republican.

    "OMIGOD, IT'S NOT FAIR", is their cry, which they borrowed from their "opposition". I think you're exactly right that the two big social media corporations are wholly owned subsidiaries of the intelligence services. This starry-eyed little twit, Nehlen is either too stupid to see what his proposed law would do, or he's on the side of those in both parties who want to legislate away every obstacle to total federal control.
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  10. Hmmm

    Finally a conservative worth his salt who can hold on to his debate. If he is able to trip Paul Ryan, we would all be thankful for it

    Too bad the “alt-right” movement has been infiltrated deeply by Zio-firsters but I still see some traces of original thought here and there!

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  11. iffen says:
    @reiner Tor
    This guy should win an election. Unfortunately it’s unlikely, but his first step would be primarying Ryan, which in itself would be sweet. A guy who understands the issues so well should win the highest office eventually.

    but his first step would be primarying Ryan

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.

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    Probably I used the word in the wrong meaning. English wasn’t sung at my cradle, so there’s that.

    I meant he should defeat Ryan in the primary. Of course I knew this was unlikely. I even wrote that much. I don’t expect him to win anything. But I can hope against hope.
    , @lavoisier

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.
     
    And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles--brain dead voters.
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  12. @iffen
    but his first step would be primarying Ryan

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.

    Probably I used the word in the wrong meaning. English wasn’t sung at my cradle, so there’s that.

    I meant he should defeat Ryan in the primary. Of course I knew this was unlikely. I even wrote that much. I don’t expect him to win anything. But I can hope against hope.

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  13. geokat62 says:
    @Archimedes
    Paul Nehlen and Unz.com have to form a partnership. This guy is the real deal.

    This guy is the real deal.

    That’s why The Lobby would like to see his head on a platter; he’s not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson’s finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy because putting people like Paul Nehlen in Congress is how the American people can start to truly drain the swamp.

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    • Agree: HogHappenin
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    If they don't then there's no point cribbing about how things stay the same. This guy is (hopefully) some good fraction of the old patriot Ron Paul perhaps (we hope) a Jim Traficant in the making

    I hope he gets some press and the good people of Wisconsin should support him to the fullest. He is braving it all for the sake of his people and his children against the lobby.

    Let's pray he succeeds
    , @ChuckOrloski
    geokat62 said: "That’s why The Lobby would like to see his (P.N.) head on a platter; he’s not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson’s finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy.

    Hi geokat,

    In 1992, upon return from emergency identification & packaging of abandoned containers of D.O.T. hazardous materials, I listened to a portion of Pat Buchnan's unconventional "Culture War Address" to the G.O.P. convention and where he -- like Bernie Sanders 2016 Dem. Convention -- called for "The Buchanan Brigade" to support G.H.W. Bush for POT(Z)US. As reminder, geo, Dan Quayle was his running mate.

    Below I link the finale of Buchanan's electrifying speech where he discussed the 1968 LA Watts riots. At time, I was a senior in high school and considering enlistment into service and "beat" getting drafted. What Buchanan said to "troops" after their intervention at an LA convalescent home about to get sacked had an inspiring impact upon my often distorted '60's-thinking which was contrary to my parent's eastern Catholic religious (conservative) values.

    As I believe Jewish financiers / Lobbies wanted and got 1/2 of Mr.Buchanan's "head on a platter," below I provide P.B.'s speech finale for your viewing.

    https://youtu.be/QO2wzdOCqr8

    Afterward, Mr. Buchanan took his "Culture War" battle to enthusiastic supporters and exposed rampant blasphemy of Christian art forms; i.e., "The Piss Christ." He defended the persecuted Ivan Demjunyak and called Congress the Lobby's "Amen Corner."

    Sadly, this past year when Phil Giraldi was sickeningly fired by T.A.C., I for one did not hear a peep of protest from great warrior, Pat Buchanan. Like you do, geo, I truly hope the Wisconsin people who reside in Mr. Nehlen's district stand strong against the Lobby release of poisonous HAZARDOUS "shekels" that will be used to dispose Paul.

    Thanks for previously bringing P.N.'s effort to my attention on P.G.'s Neocons at the gatem
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  14. iffen says:

    I don’t expect him to win anything. But I can hope against hope.

    I think that we can give him credit for moving the window a bit.

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  15. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    If you want to see how far down the road to total tyranny the USA has traveled, it’s when a law is needed to protect the Law of the Land, the Constitution and Bill of Rights from SJW fanatics who are bound and determined to eradicate the White Race from the face of the Earth.

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  16. This is a tremendous proposal about a vital issue: protecting lawful speech from politicized censorship.

    Paul Nehlen’s wonderfully subversive proposal (‘ShallNotCensor’) is both historic and game-changing. But does it stand a chance? Incredibly, the odds are somewhat stacked against Nehlen’s very necessary and extremely sensible solution to social media censorship.

    To begin, it’s worth noting that the (((ACLU))) and the liberal Left (who often pretend to be First Amendment fundamentalists) have never produced a such a concise, even-handed and principled defense of Free (political) Speech in the modern era. Why? The Left does not actually trust (or support) Free political Speech. And it hasn’t for decades.

    Why?

    Unfettered Free Speech endangers the liberal Left’s dominant position in American life. Therefore, if Nehlen’s proposal gains traction, watch for a consortium of Left wing groups, lobbies, committees, NGOs, activists, media watchdogs, entertainment conglomerates, lawyers, and billionaire sponsors join forces in a coordinated effort fight his legislation both tooth and nail.

    Watch these organized detractors say anything, defame anyone, outspend everyone, and resort to any dirty trick or dishonest claim to ‘stop the hate’.

    ‘Stop the hate’?

    That’s right: ‘Stop the hate’.

    This is what Nehlen’s proposal represents. To the dominant Left, across-the-board Free (political) expression is tantamount to ‘hate’.

    Don’t believe me? Just wait.

    Watch the kosher Left depict this legislation as ‘speech privileges’ for neo-Nazis, Holocaust ‘deniers’, and white supremacists. It’s coming. It’s inevitable. This is where Nehlen’s well-intentioned solution to politically-correct censorship will get hammered.

    Indeed, instead of actually fighting for fair, broad-based and evenhanded Free Speech rights (as opposed to porn), the dominant Left (and their cronies in the MSM) would prefer to wring their collective hands and whine about ‘hate speech’. This is a cheap trick but an effective one. It’s designed to keep whites ashamed, in retreat, and disunited.

    Indeed, if you resist the kosher Left’s call for ‘sensible censorship’, then they may eventually brand you a ‘Holocaust denier’. It’s an accusation that makes any typical American recoil in fear.

    Despite the First Amendment, the struggle for Political Expression in America has been won by Left wing activists and censors. They can say almost anything and hurl any insult. Rightists on the other hand have a minefield of taboo words they must never utter.

    At this stage, inchoate right wing ideologies as well as modest public expressions of (white) racial solidarity are being targeted by the dominant Left.

    Even if a defamatory charge is without foundation, the kosher Left is free smear any and all as ‘white supremacists’. They pay virtually no price for making a false accusation.

    This may seem grossly unfair, but this campaign of defamation has deep roots and enormous momentum. Censors and Left wing activists understand this fact very well. As does Antifa.

    Indeed, the case can be made that virtually all the hardball political censorship in America is now directed towards Americans (and leaders like Trump) who are trying to vaguely advance white racial interests. This is one reason why Trump can’t arouse overwhelming support for immigration enforcement in the House or Senate, even though it’s a popular movement. Trump (and the entire effort) is continuously being denounced as ‘racist’! These epithets cause real damage.

    And for the few Euro-Americans who lean towards coalescing around (white) race-based kinship rather than (corrupt) Party or (shifting) political ideology, they are fair game by Antifa and their media enablers. Racism (among whites) is the premiere taboo in American life. Even Trump must now deny that he’s a ‘racist’ on virtually a daily basis.

    Incredibly, white Americans–and only white Americans–are prohibited from manifesting racial solidarity with one another.

    Blacks on the other hand are not prohibited from expressing solidarity with one another. Jews certainly aren’t. Nor hispanics. Nor Asians.

    It may seem unfair, but these double-standards are holding. This gives the Left power and traction.

    Indeed, in today’s America, only whites are purposefully shamed and/or bullied into political inaction for (any attempt) to coalesce around their racial identity. This taboo is a relatively new phenomena. I trace it to the rise of The Holocaust as well as related myths surrounding ‘white racism’

    Whatever its origins, alleged (white) ‘racists’ can face loss of employment, ostracism, even arrest if they express ‘racism’. The events in Charlottesville underscore this fact.

    As these struggles play out, the Left/kosher MSM keeps Hitler imagery fresh, abundant, and ubiquitous–treating Adolf as if he was the 20th century’s only mass murderer. Ha! But there’s more. Media activists can and will gratuitously toss in KKK and/or Nazi footage on any given news day, as well as pictures of African slaves or a cinematic dramatizations of an (innocent) blacks being beaten by whites. This is the media-created blue pill that nearly all Americans must swallow.

    This propaganda serves the kosher establishment very well.

    Ironically, the biggest Free Speech ‘victory’ in American life over the past half century is probably court-ordered, legalized porn.

    Meanwhile, political speech in America has gradually been restricted, circumscribed and banned via speech codes and other inventive ways to ‘stop the hate’.

    Thus, Political Speech from the (white) Right is under immense pressure. And speech that Jews hate is in a category all its own. Needless to say, it is generally the ‘worst’ kind of speech, drenched in taboo.

    So watch what you say, white man.

    The extraordinary level of Jewish political influence around the world helps explain why there are somewhere around 20 major, Western ‘democracies’ that have criminalized ‘anti-Semitic’ speech and ‘Holocaust Denial’. This is no small accomplishment. And the forces that crafted these laws are still working feverishly and tirelessly.

    Combating these Jewish-crafted speech restrictions are key to renewing free expression and intellectual liberty. But this censorship noose is global, endowed with nearly-unlimited resources, and enmeshed in an array of international laws, treaties, agreements, accords, and regulation.

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    Mark:
    The cowardice of those at www.unz.com to face the fact that the so called 'holocau$t' is utterly impossible is appalling. While most here claim to be for rational debate, science over politics & religion, in the end they cave in. They are all talk.

    Nothing, and I do mean nothing, changes until the absurd '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are met head-on and accepted as the hateful scams that they are.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

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  17. @Backwoods Bob
    The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.

    The problem is government. More of it is not the answer. It is government education that has produced a nation of morons. Government granting banks a fiat currency has produced bad money. Government being beyond its constitutional constraints everywhere you look has destroyed the free market.

    One unintended consequence of this law will be to take the air out of alternative social media platforms. I do not want confidence "restored" in twitter.

    The only agreement I would have is enforcement of fraudulent and deceptive practices. If I claim to be doing a poll, take advertising money on that basis, but then just make up the results I want, then I am guilty of fraud and deceptive practices. That is what these social media frauds are doing.

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.

    The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.

    Bingo!

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  18. I don’t agree with him that any such legislation is a good idea. Of course he claims that it wouldn’t apply to small sites and would only be used to force fairness on the giants such as Twitter and Facebook, because that is what bothers conservatives about proposed federal restrictions like this.

    As it stands, federal prosecutors aren’t fully empowered to shut down websites. With legislation like this, they would be, and there is no more arrogant and abusive federal officer than a prosecutor.I would bet that a law like this would eventually be used ONLY against small sites as a means of shutting down dissent.

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  19. @Backwoods Bob
    The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.

    The problem is government. More of it is not the answer. It is government education that has produced a nation of morons. Government granting banks a fiat currency has produced bad money. Government being beyond its constitutional constraints everywhere you look has destroyed the free market.

    One unintended consequence of this law will be to take the air out of alternative social media platforms. I do not want confidence "restored" in twitter.

    The only agreement I would have is enforcement of fraudulent and deceptive practices. If I claim to be doing a poll, take advertising money on that basis, but then just make up the results I want, then I am guilty of fraud and deceptive practices. That is what these social media frauds are doing.

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.

    Yup. “Der oughta be a laaawww..”

    The problem is faith in politicians. Where do people get their faith? I admit that the guy sounds good, but since when does any of that matter?

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  20. wayfarer says:

    Only the wise know just where predestination ends and free will begins. Meanwhile, you must keep on doing your best, according to your own clearest understanding. you must long for freedom as the drowning man longs for air. Without sincere longing, you will never find God.
    – Paramahansa Yogananda

    Twitter, self-serving social engineers and gatekeeper’s of mankind’s free will, working overtime to attenuate humanity’s radiant spirit.

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  21. @Backwoods Bob
    The law of unintended consequences has been suspended for this fantasy.

    The problem is government. More of it is not the answer. It is government education that has produced a nation of morons. Government granting banks a fiat currency has produced bad money. Government being beyond its constitutional constraints everywhere you look has destroyed the free market.

    One unintended consequence of this law will be to take the air out of alternative social media platforms. I do not want confidence "restored" in twitter.

    The only agreement I would have is enforcement of fraudulent and deceptive practices. If I claim to be doing a poll, take advertising money on that basis, but then just make up the results I want, then I am guilty of fraud and deceptive practices. That is what these social media frauds are doing.

    As always, the knee-jerk reaction is to ignore long-established law, refuse to enforce it, and make up new laws.

    ” I do not want confidence “restored” in twitter. ”

    Exactly my thinking. What has gone wrong with conservatives that they all think more federal control is the answer to everything they see as a problem? Reading the rest of the comments, I see a bunch of big government liberals who pretend to be conservative by voting republican.

    “OMIGOD, IT’S NOT FAIR”, is their cry, which they borrowed from their “opposition”. I think you’re exactly right that the two big social media corporations are wholly owned subsidiaries of the intelligence services. This starry-eyed little twit, Nehlen is either too stupid to see what his proposed law would do, or he’s on the side of those in both parties who want to legislate away every obstacle to total federal control.

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  22. @geokat62

    This guy is the real deal.
     
    That's why The Lobby would like to see his head on a platter; he's not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson's finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy because putting people like Paul Nehlen in Congress is how the American people can start to truly drain the swamp.

    If they don’t then there’s no point cribbing about how things stay the same. This guy is (hopefully) some good fraction of the old patriot Ron Paul perhaps (we hope) a Jim Traficant in the making

    I hope he gets some press and the good people of Wisconsin should support him to the fullest. He is braving it all for the sake of his people and his children against the lobby.

    Let’s pray he succeeds

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  23. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    Nehlan the Christian, currently the most hated man by the Jewish community.- I wonder if the Jewish-Christian divide was really about race: most Christians came to be gentiles.

    Suppose Christianity hadn't gone the Paulian way. Suppose the followers of Jesus preached mainly to fellow Jews and intended their movement to be a reform religion meant mainly for Jews.
    There would surely have been much acrimony between the two groups, but maybe it wouldn't have become so unsolvable if the conflict had remained among Jews. It's like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans.

    But Christianity passed onto gentiles, and most Christians were not Jewish converts/reformers but non-Jews who took up the faith. So, the conflict between Judaism and Christianity went from differences of theology to differences of ethnology. And matters of blood are always more deeper and more dangerous than matters of ink.

    Religious Jews in Israel can tolerate and even accept secular Jews, communist Jews, and all sorts of non-observant Jews as fellow tribesmen, but they reject even the most Philosemitic non-Jews as members of the community. Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses.

    What?????

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  24. @geokat62

    This guy is the real deal.
     
    That's why The Lobby would like to see his head on a platter; he's not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson's finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy because putting people like Paul Nehlen in Congress is how the American people can start to truly drain the swamp.

    geokat62 said: “That’s why The Lobby would like to see his (P.N.) head on a platter; he’s not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson’s finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy.

    Hi geokat,

    In 1992, upon return from emergency identification & packaging of abandoned containers of D.O.T. hazardous materials, I listened to a portion of Pat Buchnan’s unconventional “Culture War Address” to the G.O.P. convention and where he — like Bernie Sanders 2016 Dem. Convention — called for “The Buchanan Brigade” to support G.H.W. Bush for POT(Z)US. As reminder, geo, Dan Quayle was his running mate.

    Below I link the finale of Buchanan’s electrifying speech where he discussed the 1968 LA Watts riots. At time, I was a senior in high school and considering enlistment into service and “beat” getting drafted. What Buchanan said to “troops” after their intervention at an LA convalescent home about to get sacked had an inspiring impact upon my often distorted ’60′s-thinking which was contrary to my parent’s eastern Catholic religious (conservative) values.

    As I believe Jewish financiers / Lobbies wanted and got 1/2 of Mr.Buchanan’s “head on a platter,” below I provide P.B.’s speech finale for your viewing.

    Afterward, Mr. Buchanan took his “Culture War” battle to enthusiastic supporters and exposed rampant blasphemy of Christian art forms; i.e., “The Piss Christ.” He defended the persecuted Ivan Demjunyak and called Congress the Lobby’s “Amen Corner.”

    Sadly, this past year when Phil Giraldi was sickeningly fired by T.A.C., I for one did not hear a peep of protest from great warrior, Pat Buchanan. Like you do, geo, I truly hope the Wisconsin people who reside in Mr. Nehlen’s district stand strong against the Lobby release of poisonous HAZARDOUS “shekels” that will be used to dispose Paul.

    Thanks for previously bringing P.N.’s effort to my attention on P.G.’s Neocons at the gatem

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    As reminder, geo, Dan Quayle was his running mate.
     
    Hey, Chuck. How could I, or anyone else, ever forget? I still vividly recall the vice-presidential debate in which Quayle, in an attempt to assuage concerns about being too young to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, compared himself to JFK... to which Lloyd Bentsen retorted:

    "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."

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  25. Even now there is no real free speech. If somebody does not like what you have written you may loose your job.
    Only retired people can write straight.
    Or if you write on website in foreign land.

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  26. George says:

    Twitter is not censoring anything, only a government with the power of the law can censor nor are they a monopoly. Maybe the cable company can censor. If you do not like what twitter or sesame street is doing too bad. There are actually alternatives to Twitter. Mostly the only reason people want to be on Twitter because that’s where the celebs are, so Twitter panders to celebs not you, again too bad.

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  27. Bill says:
    @Anonymous
    Nehlan the Christian, currently the most hated man by the Jewish community.- I wonder if the Jewish-Christian divide was really about race: most Christians came to be gentiles.

    Suppose Christianity hadn't gone the Paulian way. Suppose the followers of Jesus preached mainly to fellow Jews and intended their movement to be a reform religion meant mainly for Jews.
    There would surely have been much acrimony between the two groups, but maybe it wouldn't have become so unsolvable if the conflict had remained among Jews. It's like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans.

    But Christianity passed onto gentiles, and most Christians were not Jewish converts/reformers but non-Jews who took up the faith. So, the conflict between Judaism and Christianity went from differences of theology to differences of ethnology. And matters of blood are always more deeper and more dangerous than matters of ink.

    Religious Jews in Israel can tolerate and even accept secular Jews, communist Jews, and all sorts of non-observant Jews as fellow tribesmen, but they reject even the most Philosemitic non-Jews as members of the community. Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses.

    There are several different Jewish ethnic groups.

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  28. Jake says:

    “One would think that, after having called for something to be done for years, at least one major conservative media outlet would have contacted me to do a story on my proposal.”

    I would NOT think that. Because the Neocons control everything, and they are LIBERAL in virtually everything that matters most, ‘mainstream’ ‘conservative’ media walks hand in hand with Liberal media.

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  29. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Grandiose false claims of victimhood is a ploy:

    “In response to the overwhelmingly partisan censorship on major social media platforms against conservatives”

    What censorship?

    “This law will not interfere with features or functionality, so market forces will remain in play. ”

    The assertion, ironically enough, is that Government should introduce some kind of legislation. To keep things fair? What would that law look like? The author doesn’t say. He would like to you believe this is a free speech issue. (fail)

    Market forces want propaganda and a Government that protects this right. Perhaps the author has a problem with market forces which he conflates with censorship. Meanwhile it’s ok to cry about access just don’t expect anyone to believe you.

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    Even your name is ridiculous.
    The moment you go on internet, those people who want to know who you are, they have your IPS in a second. If they wont to know where you live they have your address in a minute.
    In a two minutes they will have a picture of your house. and if you look up they will have a picture of your face.

    Even some website now if you open the website they register your IPS.
    So there is no privacy anymore.
    It is only the question of manpower to which level they will decide to control the population.
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  30. Wally says: • Website
    @Mark Green
    This is a tremendous proposal about a vital issue: protecting lawful speech from politicized censorship.

    Paul Nehlen's wonderfully subversive proposal ('ShallNotCensor') is both historic and game-changing. But does it stand a chance? Incredibly, the odds are somewhat stacked against Nehlen's very necessary and extremely sensible solution to social media censorship.

    To begin, it's worth noting that the (((ACLU))) and the liberal Left (who often pretend to be First Amendment fundamentalists) have never produced a such a concise, even-handed and principled defense of Free (political) Speech in the modern era. Why? The Left does not actually trust (or support) Free political Speech. And it hasn't for decades.

    Why?

    Unfettered Free Speech endangers the liberal Left's dominant position in American life. Therefore, if Nehlen's proposal gains traction, watch for a consortium of Left wing groups, lobbies, committees, NGOs, activists, media watchdogs, entertainment conglomerates, lawyers, and billionaire sponsors join forces in a coordinated effort fight his legislation both tooth and nail.

    Watch these organized detractors say anything, defame anyone, outspend everyone, and resort to any dirty trick or dishonest claim to 'stop the hate'.

    'Stop the hate'?

    That's right: 'Stop the hate'.

    This is what Nehlen's proposal represents. To the dominant Left, across-the-board Free (political) expression is tantamount to 'hate'.

    Don't believe me? Just wait.

    Watch the kosher Left depict this legislation as 'speech privileges' for neo-Nazis, Holocaust 'deniers', and white supremacists. It's coming. It's inevitable. This is where Nehlen's well-intentioned solution to politically-correct censorship will get hammered.

    Indeed, instead of actually fighting for fair, broad-based and evenhanded Free Speech rights (as opposed to porn), the dominant Left (and their cronies in the MSM) would prefer to wring their collective hands and whine about 'hate speech'. This is a cheap trick but an effective one. It's designed to keep whites ashamed, in retreat, and disunited.

    Indeed, if you resist the kosher Left's call for 'sensible censorship', then they may eventually brand you a 'Holocaust denier'. It's an accusation that makes any typical American recoil in fear.

    Despite the First Amendment, the struggle for Political Expression in America has been won by Left wing activists and censors. They can say almost anything and hurl any insult. Rightists on the other hand have a minefield of taboo words they must never utter.

    At this stage, inchoate right wing ideologies as well as modest public expressions of (white) racial solidarity are being targeted by the dominant Left.

    Even if a defamatory charge is without foundation, the kosher Left is free smear any and all as 'white supremacists'. They pay virtually no price for making a false accusation.

    This may seem grossly unfair, but this campaign of defamation has deep roots and enormous momentum. Censors and Left wing activists understand this fact very well. As does Antifa.

    Indeed, the case can be made that virtually all the hardball political censorship in America is now directed towards Americans (and leaders like Trump) who are trying to vaguely advance white racial interests. This is one reason why Trump can't arouse overwhelming support for immigration enforcement in the House or Senate, even though it's a popular movement. Trump (and the entire effort) is continuously being denounced as 'racist'! These epithets cause real damage.

    And for the few Euro-Americans who lean towards coalescing around (white) race-based kinship rather than (corrupt) Party or (shifting) political ideology, they are fair game by Antifa and their media enablers. Racism (among whites) is the premiere taboo in American life. Even Trump must now deny that he's a 'racist' on virtually a daily basis.

    Incredibly, white Americans--and only white Americans--are prohibited from manifesting racial solidarity with one another.

    Blacks on the other hand are not prohibited from expressing solidarity with one another. Jews certainly aren't. Nor hispanics. Nor Asians.

    It may seem unfair, but these double-standards are holding. This gives the Left power and traction.

    Indeed, in today's America, only whites are purposefully shamed and/or bullied into political inaction for (any attempt) to coalesce around their racial identity. This taboo is a relatively new phenomena. I trace it to the rise of The Holocaust as well as related myths surrounding 'white racism'

    Whatever its origins, alleged (white) 'racists' can face loss of employment, ostracism, even arrest if they express 'racism'. The events in Charlottesville underscore this fact.

    As these struggles play out, the Left/kosher MSM keeps Hitler imagery fresh, abundant, and ubiquitous--treating Adolf as if he was the 20th century's only mass murderer. Ha! But there's more. Media activists can and will gratuitously toss in KKK and/or Nazi footage on any given news day, as well as pictures of African slaves or a cinematic dramatizations of an (innocent) blacks being beaten by whites. This is the media-created blue pill that nearly all Americans must swallow.

    This propaganda serves the kosher establishment very well.

    Ironically, the biggest Free Speech 'victory' in American life over the past half century is probably court-ordered, legalized porn.

    Meanwhile, political speech in America has gradually been restricted, circumscribed and banned via speech codes and other inventive ways to 'stop the hate'.

    Thus, Political Speech from the (white) Right is under immense pressure. And speech that Jews hate is in a category all its own. Needless to say, it is generally the 'worst' kind of speech, drenched in taboo.

    So watch what you say, white man.

    The extraordinary level of Jewish political influence around the world helps explain why there are somewhere around 20 major, Western 'democracies' that have criminalized 'anti-Semitic' speech and 'Holocaust Denial'. This is no small accomplishment. And the forces that crafted these laws are still working feverishly and tirelessly.

    Combating these Jewish-crafted speech restrictions are key to renewing free expression and intellectual liberty. But this censorship noose is global, endowed with nearly-unlimited resources, and enmeshed in an array of international laws, treaties, agreements, accords, and regulation.

    Mark:
    The cowardice of those at http://www.unz.com to face the fact that the so called ‘holocau$t’ is utterly impossible is appalling. While most here claim to be for rational debate, science over politics & religion, in the end they cave in. They are all talk.

    Nothing, and I do mean nothing, changes until the absurd ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are met head-on and accepted as the hateful scams that they are.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

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  31. Anonymous asks, “What censorship?”

    That’s a pretty good but defective question, above.

    When W.F. Buckley’s National Review sacked Joseph Sobran as editor, real Conservatism, independent of Israel, took a fall.
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    The real question is now, “What conservatives?”

    Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney? Rush Limbaugh? Rick Santorum? Marco Rubio?

    I do not enjoy rapping with “Anonymous” commenters, but — can you please name one (1) brand name American Conservative who stands apart from the Neocon wolf (yuck Blitzer) pack?

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  32. utu says:

    Mr. Nehlen makes excellent points. Vice’s question keep playing up the”private organization” thing over an over agin? Are they some libertarian useful idiots outfit?

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    Don't be obtuse. How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses? If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate. Imagine Granny Sessions with this law. The diversionary prosecutions he could come up with to avoid prosecuting Hillary would just tickle him to death.
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  33. Jake says:
    @Anonymous
    Nehlan the Christian, currently the most hated man by the Jewish community.- I wonder if the Jewish-Christian divide was really about race: most Christians came to be gentiles.

    Suppose Christianity hadn't gone the Paulian way. Suppose the followers of Jesus preached mainly to fellow Jews and intended their movement to be a reform religion meant mainly for Jews.
    There would surely have been much acrimony between the two groups, but maybe it wouldn't have become so unsolvable if the conflict had remained among Jews. It's like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans.

    But Christianity passed onto gentiles, and most Christians were not Jewish converts/reformers but non-Jews who took up the faith. So, the conflict between Judaism and Christianity went from differences of theology to differences of ethnology. And matters of blood are always more deeper and more dangerous than matters of ink.

    Religious Jews in Israel can tolerate and even accept secular Jews, communist Jews, and all sorts of non-observant Jews as fellow tribesmen, but they reject even the most Philosemitic non-Jews as members of the community. Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses.

    “It’s like German Protestants and German Catholics used to bash one another but eventually came to patch things up and get along as fellow Germans.”

    ” Indeed, Jews feel closer to Jews who accept Jesus than to gentiles who reject Jesus and accept Moses.”

    Obviously, if Christianity had remained an ethnically Jewish thing, the Jewish hatreds for it would have been greatly lessened. And perhaps non-existent. Jewishness is based on faith in lineal descent from Abraham, and as the New Testament makes clear, by the time of Christ, the Jewish religion as practiced had become very much a ‘racist’ religion. Judaism was about blood and kinship, and its lines were so strongly drawn that even the half-ethnically Jewish Samaritans were despised as filthy, as polluted and polluting trash with no hope of being any better because they possessed the wrong blood, the wrong genes.

    And you can see that today. A few years ago, in a other town, I had a friend who was half Jewish: through his father. As a young adult, he became Christian. And that meant he became pariah to virtually all of his Jewish kin, the atheists as well as the religious. Theyb all accepted other half Jews as Jews, but they did not accept him being Christians. He noted many cases of synagogues still accepting people as Jews not just if they were public atheists, but also if they joined another religion – with 1 exception: they could not be Christian and Jewish.

    So it seems that Jesus the Christ causes Jews to go totally bonkers and become at least as vicious as did the half-breed Samaritans.

    As for German Catholics and Protestants – after the Kulturkampf, which was Bismarck’s nearly successful attempt to exterminate all Catholic Church ability to oppose anything done by government, an increasing number of German Catholic bishops became publicly supportive of Modern secularism, which means over time they became almost as Liberal as German Protestant leaders.

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  34. @Anonymous
    Grandiose false claims of victimhood is a ploy:

    "In response to the overwhelmingly partisan censorship on major social media platforms against conservatives"

    What censorship?

    "This law will not interfere with features or functionality, so market forces will remain in play. "

    The assertion, ironically enough, is that Government should introduce some kind of legislation. To keep things fair? What would that law look like? The author doesn't say. He would like to you believe this is a free speech issue. (fail)

    Market forces want propaganda and a Government that protects this right. Perhaps the author has a problem with market forces which he conflates with censorship. Meanwhile it's ok to cry about access just don't expect anyone to believe you.

    Even your name is ridiculous.
    The moment you go on internet, those people who want to know who you are, they have your IPS in a second. If they wont to know where you live they have your address in a minute.
    In a two minutes they will have a picture of your house. and if you look up they will have a picture of your face.

    Even some website now if you open the website they register your IPS.
    So there is no privacy anymore.
    It is only the question of manpower to which level they will decide to control the population.

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  35. I am not a supporter Free Speech on philosophical grounds. I hold to the Traditional Catholic policy that “error has no rights,” and it is the duty of those who bear not the sword in vain (the government) to suppress erroneous ideas before they gain currency and pollute the public intellect. However, that discussion is a bit too highbrow for the rough and tumble politics of the moment.

    Yet, with that being said, I am also against Mr. Nehlen’s proposal for completely different reasons. I do not want these stupid social media companies enshrined into the law as some sort of public communications utility. Once a particular good or service is deemed a public utility (and that is the thrust of this proposed legislation even if it does not state so explicitly), then an entirely different and more lenient set of rules apply to it. The company can, for instance, be granted a legal monopoly status. It can be directly subsidized by government so as to provide the service to as many as possible at the lowest possible cost, even to people who cannot otherwise afford it. It is felt that there is an obligation incumbent upon the government to keep the service up and running. Could you just imagine a Facebook utility?

    I think a better idea is simply to wage economic war against social media. Do not use it; discourage other people from using it; write articles and books about how awful it is; and if you own stock in these companies, sell it—preferably at a deep discount.

    I don’t want Facebook and Twitter turned into utilities. I want them gone. The medium is the message, and the message of this particular medium is that it’s cool for grown men to spend their time “twittering” and for 35-year-old mothers to slut-post their drunken margarita pictures to an imaginary fan base. This insanity has to stop. The only acceptable Alt-Right position is “Facebook delenda est.”

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    Intelligent Dasein said: "I think a better idea is simply to wage economic war against social media."

    Hi I.D.,

    Controllers are "one step ahead." (Zigh)

    Upon implementation of the Federal Reserve and early 1990's Globalization of the ZUS economy, elite Zionists are waging merciless economic & cultural war against Amerikans.

    There will be a high cost to pay for the widespread population use and addiction to "social media" which helps occupy people's limited attention span and subsequently control them.

    A slick ZUS guv Process is presently underway to make some internet usage much more "equal" than that indulged by lesser others. (Note: Thanks to the (secular) Spirit of George Orwell for the preceding sentence)

    Thanks, I.D.
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  36. Nehlen comes off as much smarter in this Q&A than I would have expected from his Twitter account…pretty impressive actually.

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  37. Anyway Twitter and Facebook and some websites with too many commenting members will have no choice than start to create a few classes of participants.
    Everybody is equal simply does not work here anymore.

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  38. @Intelligent Dasein
    I am not a supporter Free Speech on philosophical grounds. I hold to the Traditional Catholic policy that "error has no rights," and it is the duty of those who bear not the sword in vain (the government) to suppress erroneous ideas before they gain currency and pollute the public intellect. However, that discussion is a bit too highbrow for the rough and tumble politics of the moment.

    Yet, with that being said, I am also against Mr. Nehlen's proposal for completely different reasons. I do not want these stupid social media companies enshrined into the law as some sort of public communications utility. Once a particular good or service is deemed a public utility (and that is the thrust of this proposed legislation even if it does not state so explicitly), then an entirely different and more lenient set of rules apply to it. The company can, for instance, be granted a legal monopoly status. It can be directly subsidized by government so as to provide the service to as many as possible at the lowest possible cost, even to people who cannot otherwise afford it. It is felt that there is an obligation incumbent upon the government to keep the service up and running. Could you just imagine a Facebook utility?

    I think a better idea is simply to wage economic war against social media. Do not use it; discourage other people from using it; write articles and books about how awful it is; and if you own stock in these companies, sell it---preferably at a deep discount.

    I don't want Facebook and Twitter turned into utilities. I want them gone. The medium is the message, and the message of this particular medium is that it's cool for grown men to spend their time "twittering" and for 35-year-old mothers to slut-post their drunken margarita pictures to an imaginary fan base. This insanity has to stop. The only acceptable Alt-Right position is "Facebook delenda est."

    Intelligent Dasein said: “I think a better idea is simply to wage economic war against social media.”

    Hi I.D.,

    Controllers are “one step ahead.” (Zigh)

    Upon implementation of the Federal Reserve and early 1990′s Globalization of the ZUS economy, elite Zionists are waging merciless economic & cultural war against Amerikans.

    There will be a high cost to pay for the widespread population use and addiction to “social media” which helps occupy people’s limited attention span and subsequently control them.

    A slick ZUS guv Process is presently underway to make some internet usage much more “equal” than that indulged by lesser others. (Note: Thanks to the (secular) Spirit of George Orwell for the preceding sentence)

    Thanks, I.D.

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    “There will be a high cost to pay for the widespread population use and addiction to “social media” which helps occupy people’s limited attention span and subsequently control them.” – Chuck Orloski
     
    The human mind is easy to hack, easy to hijack, and therefore easy to control. –wayfarer

    “Facebook is ripping apart society." – Chamath Palihapitiya
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6e/82/07/6e82074f1704df31e62dffe8d5bcf7cf--smiley-faces-skull-art.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J54k7WrbfMg

    .....
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  39. @utu
    Mr. Nehlen makes excellent points. Vice's question keep playing up the"private organization" thing over an over agin? Are they some libertarian useful idiots outfit?

    Don’t be obtuse. How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses? If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate. Imagine Granny Sessions with this law. The diversionary prosecutions he could come up with to avoid prosecuting Hillary would just tickle him to death.

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    " If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate."

    Really? Please explain how that could happen.

    www.codoh.com

    , @utu

    How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses?
     
    Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?

    How far do you want to go to let private business decide what you talk on phone, what you write and to whom on email, what you post on twitter, what you post one FB, and so on?
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  40. US was supposed to be a melting pot. But to tell you the truth most of the metals do not mix.
    And it does make a difference how long are they melting.
    Babylon at one time was the best place to live. But we all know what did happen in Babylon.
    People kept arguing and fighting. eventually all groups of the people went their own way.
    US is now certified Babylon.
    So there is no other solution than Babylon solution.
    There are only two ways to implement it.
    Redraw the map of US and create areas for jews, white people, black people and all other people.
    The other way is to deport all non White people from the country. (This solution seems drastic.)

    But I am absolutely certain that there is no other option except civil war.

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    Nice idea, but everyone keeps following Euro-whites around.

    www.codoh.com
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  41. Art says:

    Paul Nehlen:

    “Allow me to answer with this question: If pro-White is White supremacy, what is pro-Jewish?” Nehlen told The Washington Post in a text message. “I reject being called a White Supremacist, because clearly Pro-White isn’t White Supremacy unless Pro-Jewish is Jewish Supremacy.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/27/ryans-pro-white-primary-foe-denounced-by-breitbart-after-his-anti-semitic-tweets/?utm_term=.e2dbd426efb9

    Finally – a politician who will speak up to the Jew media.

    There is a lot more. Search google.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Art reflects and says: "Finally – a politician who will speak up to the Jew media."

    Hi Art,

    Please vigilantly proceed with caution and perpetual preparedness for Zio "Deception."

    Not a knock upon Paul Nehlen's unconventional (unwanted?) effort whatsoever, but one may recall how deceptive-candidate Trump frequently slammed the "lying Media."

    Peace be with you.
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  42. wayfarer says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Intelligent Dasein said: "I think a better idea is simply to wage economic war against social media."

    Hi I.D.,

    Controllers are "one step ahead." (Zigh)

    Upon implementation of the Federal Reserve and early 1990's Globalization of the ZUS economy, elite Zionists are waging merciless economic & cultural war against Amerikans.

    There will be a high cost to pay for the widespread population use and addiction to "social media" which helps occupy people's limited attention span and subsequently control them.

    A slick ZUS guv Process is presently underway to make some internet usage much more "equal" than that indulged by lesser others. (Note: Thanks to the (secular) Spirit of George Orwell for the preceding sentence)

    Thanks, I.D.

    “There will be a high cost to pay for the widespread population use and addiction to “social media” which helps occupy people’s limited attention span and subsequently control them.” – Chuck Orloski

    The human mind is easy to hack, easy to hijack, and therefore easy to control. –wayfarer

    “Facebook is ripping apart society.” – Chamath Palihapitiya

    …..

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  43. Wally says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Don't be obtuse. How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses? If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate. Imagine Granny Sessions with this law. The diversionary prosecutions he could come up with to avoid prosecuting Hillary would just tickle him to death.

    ” If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate.”

    Really? Please explain how that could happen.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  44. Wally says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    US was supposed to be a melting pot. But to tell you the truth most of the metals do not mix.
    And it does make a difference how long are they melting.
    Babylon at one time was the best place to live. But we all know what did happen in Babylon.
    People kept arguing and fighting. eventually all groups of the people went their own way.
    US is now certified Babylon.
    So there is no other solution than Babylon solution.
    There are only two ways to implement it.
    Redraw the map of US and create areas for jews, white people, black people and all other people.
    The other way is to deport all non White people from the country. (This solution seems drastic.)

    But I am absolutely certain that there is no other option except civil war.

    Nice idea, but everyone keeps following Euro-whites around.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  45. I DO HAVE ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT TRUMP IS COLLUDING WITH RUSSIANS.
    AND I AM CERTAIN THAT CNN WILL PICK THIS UP.

    Trump wants to import all Norwegians to US. And leave all those areas to be occupied by Russians.

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  46. @Art
    Paul Nehlen:

    “Allow me to answer with this question: If pro-White is White supremacy, what is pro-Jewish?” Nehlen told The Washington Post in a text message. “I reject being called a White Supremacist, because clearly Pro-White isn’t White Supremacy unless Pro-Jewish is Jewish Supremacy.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/27/ryans-pro-white-primary-foe-denounced-by-breitbart-after-his-anti-semitic-tweets/?utm_term=.e2dbd426efb9

    Finally - a politician who will speak up to the Jew media.

    There is a lot more. Search google.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Art reflects and says: “Finally – a politician who will speak up to the Jew media.”

    Hi Art,

    Please vigilantly proceed with caution and perpetual preparedness for Zio “Deception.”

    Not a knock upon Paul Nehlen’s unconventional (unwanted?) effort whatsoever, but one may recall how deceptive-candidate Trump frequently slammed the “lying Media.”

    Peace be with you.

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  47. >>>
    VICE: Isn’t censorship, by its very definition, something the government does?

    Not exactly. Censorship is the suppression of communication, and can occur in a wide variety of contexts. Censorship is indeed something the government does, but it is not something that only the government does.
    <<<

    Bravo!

    The US mainstream media implements massive amounts of censorship. For example when was the last time anyone here read an in-depth article in any mainstream newspaper regarding the Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians; all of which have been extremely well documented by many different organizations?

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    "Censorship is indeed something the government does, but it is not something that only the government does."

    Above, agreed Steve.

    Take the case of the warning to Hawaiians about an incoming ICBM? "The" government also won't hesitate to scare the shit out of its subjects.

    Thank you.
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  48. @Steve Naidamast
    >>>
    VICE: Isn’t censorship, by its very definition, something the government does?

    Not exactly. Censorship is the suppression of communication, and can occur in a wide variety of contexts. Censorship is indeed something the government does, but it is not something that only the government does.
    <<<

    Bravo!

    The US mainstream media implements massive amounts of censorship. For example when was the last time anyone here read an in-depth article in any mainstream newspaper regarding the Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians; all of which have been extremely well documented by many different organizations?

    “Censorship is indeed something the government does, but it is not something that only the government does.”

    Above, agreed Steve.

    Take the case of the warning to Hawaiians about an incoming ICBM? “The” government also won’t hesitate to scare the shit out of its subjects.

    Thank you.

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  49. lavoisier says: • Website
    @iffen
    but his first step would be primarying Ryan

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.

    And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles–brain dead voters.

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    "And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles–brain dead voters."

    Above, excessive blame for national demise is placed upon "brain dead voters."

    Even informed American voter-brains are neutralized prior to casting their vote during hokey GOP and Democrat presidential primaries.

    Cunning "polls" decide which candidate is most popular according to the flummoxed public, and the Corporate Media carry the washed-Ones through and onto the theatrical-national TV debate stage.

    Prior to the managed-debates, a brand name & trusted Zio Moderator is anointed to ask candidates questions which are periphery to the actual reason for the "Republic in shambles."

    The runway INFRASTRUCTURE leading to revered American POT(Z)US elections is detoured and public entry needs to be notified with yellow tape that declares in black letters, "Crime Scene Investigation."
    , @Olorin
    You seriously misunderestimate the control that (((globohive media))) have over the good citizens of Walworth County and environs.

    I include in that category the ecclesiasts who promulgate the notion that it is every Christian's and Ametican's duty to put Israel first and endlessly self-flagellate over The Holocaust (TM).

    And do not forget that Wisconsin has, iirc, the nation's highest percentage of German American voters. Nehlen fascinates because he appears to comprehend these matters of strategic and tactical realpolitik. My sense is that he senses his people's chains, iow.

    For what it's worth, SE Wisconsin, as well as Madison and Milwaukee, is largely run by Illinois, especially Chicago, elites.
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  50. utu says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Don't be obtuse. How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses? If a law like this was passed it would be used to attack Unz, ZH, and others while Facebook and Twitter were allowed to skate. Imagine Granny Sessions with this law. The diversionary prosecutions he could come up with to avoid prosecuting Hillary would just tickle him to death.

    How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses?

    Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?

    How far do you want to go to let private business decide what you talk on phone, what you write and to whom on email, what you post on twitter, what you post one FB, and so on?

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    • Replies: @Wally
    asks:
    "Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?"

    Regular.

    For the most part I'm Libertarian, but see the need to stop the attacks on the Constitution that are very real.

    www.codoh.com
    , @Twodees Partain
    Apparently, you can't even write a coherent sentence. Forget I ever replied to you.
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  51. Wally says:
    @utu

    How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses?
     
    Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?

    How far do you want to go to let private business decide what you talk on phone, what you write and to whom on email, what you post on twitter, what you post one FB, and so on?

    asks:
    “Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?”

    Regular.

    For the most part I’m Libertarian, but see the need to stop the attacks on the Constitution that are very real.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  52. @WorkingClass
    Mr. Nehlen is spot on and articulate to boot. May he gain a wider audience. But he will not persuade those for whom free speech and reason itself are manifestations of evil whiteness.

    And that’s just fine – because the “goal” will not and should never be to “persuade” them. It was clear a long time ago that their arrogant, domineering, morally dishonest, utterly hypocritical, disastrously-stupid, ruthless nation-wrecking evil will not ever yield to “persuasion”.

    The “goal” is now to defeat and destroy them – before they destroy us all.

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    Agreed. It's them or us.
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  53. @lavoisier

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.
     
    And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles--brain dead voters.

    “And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles–brain dead voters.”

    Above, excessive blame for national demise is placed upon “brain dead voters.”

    Even informed American voter-brains are neutralized prior to casting their vote during hokey GOP and Democrat presidential primaries.

    Cunning “polls” decide which candidate is most popular according to the flummoxed public, and the Corporate Media carry the washed-Ones through and onto the theatrical-national TV debate stage.

    Prior to the managed-debates, a brand name & trusted Zio Moderator is anointed to ask candidates questions which are periphery to the actual reason for the “Republic in shambles.”

    The runway INFRASTRUCTURE leading to revered American POT(Z)US elections is detoured and public entry needs to be notified with yellow tape that declares in black letters, “Crime Scene Investigation.”

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    "Even informed American voter-brains are neutralized prior to casting their vote during hokey GOP and Democrat presidential primaries."

    That's an excellent point. Blaming the failure of electoral politics on "brain dead voters" ignores the obvious fact that elections are not decided by voters. This is most obvious in presidential elections, considering your valid observation on the "hokey primaries" as well as the blatantly phony reporting once the candidates are chosen.

    I can't blame the voters when it's so obvious that voting has so little to do with the outcome of elections.
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  54. @utu

    How far do you want to go in allowing federal prosecutors to attack private businesses?
     
    Libertarian useful idiot or just regular idiot?

    How far do you want to go to let private business decide what you talk on phone, what you write and to whom on email, what you post on twitter, what you post one FB, and so on?

    Apparently, you can’t even write a coherent sentence. Forget I ever replied to you.

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  55. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    geokat62 said: "That’s why The Lobby would like to see his (P.N.) head on a platter; he’s not prepared to kiss the ring on Sheldon Adelson’s finger to release the shekels required to finance his campaign. The American people (especially the people of Wisconsin residing in his district) need to stand behind his candidacy.

    Hi geokat,

    In 1992, upon return from emergency identification & packaging of abandoned containers of D.O.T. hazardous materials, I listened to a portion of Pat Buchnan's unconventional "Culture War Address" to the G.O.P. convention and where he -- like Bernie Sanders 2016 Dem. Convention -- called for "The Buchanan Brigade" to support G.H.W. Bush for POT(Z)US. As reminder, geo, Dan Quayle was his running mate.

    Below I link the finale of Buchanan's electrifying speech where he discussed the 1968 LA Watts riots. At time, I was a senior in high school and considering enlistment into service and "beat" getting drafted. What Buchanan said to "troops" after their intervention at an LA convalescent home about to get sacked had an inspiring impact upon my often distorted '60's-thinking which was contrary to my parent's eastern Catholic religious (conservative) values.

    As I believe Jewish financiers / Lobbies wanted and got 1/2 of Mr.Buchanan's "head on a platter," below I provide P.B.'s speech finale for your viewing.

    https://youtu.be/QO2wzdOCqr8

    Afterward, Mr. Buchanan took his "Culture War" battle to enthusiastic supporters and exposed rampant blasphemy of Christian art forms; i.e., "The Piss Christ." He defended the persecuted Ivan Demjunyak and called Congress the Lobby's "Amen Corner."

    Sadly, this past year when Phil Giraldi was sickeningly fired by T.A.C., I for one did not hear a peep of protest from great warrior, Pat Buchanan. Like you do, geo, I truly hope the Wisconsin people who reside in Mr. Nehlen's district stand strong against the Lobby release of poisonous HAZARDOUS "shekels" that will be used to dispose Paul.

    Thanks for previously bringing P.N.'s effort to my attention on P.G.'s Neocons at the gatem

    As reminder, geo, Dan Quayle was his running mate.

    Hey, Chuck. How could I, or anyone else, ever forget? I still vividly recall the vice-presidential debate in which Quayle, in an attempt to assuage concerns about being too young to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, compared himself to JFK… to which Lloyd Bentsen retorted:

    “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

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  56. Olorin says:
    @lavoisier

    He has already primaried Ryan and came in with a whopping 15% of the vote. Same election in which Trump carried Wisconsin.
     
    And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles--brain dead voters.

    You seriously misunderestimate the control that (((globohive media))) have over the good citizens of Walworth County and environs.

    I include in that category the ecclesiasts who promulgate the notion that it is every Christian’s and Ametican’s duty to put Israel first and endlessly self-flagellate over The Holocaust (TM).

    And do not forget that Wisconsin has, iirc, the nation’s highest percentage of German American voters. Nehlen fascinates because he appears to comprehend these matters of strategic and tactical realpolitik. My sense is that he senses his people’s chains, iow.

    For what it’s worth, SE Wisconsin, as well as Madison and Milwaukee, is largely run by Illinois, especially Chicago, elites.

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    I am sorry but I cannot give the voters a pass. Yes, the media lies. Yes, Ryan looks good in a suit and has a lot of money to spend on campaigns designed to produce high tech lies.

    But if the voters cannot see that this man is their enemy, we are doomed as a republic.

    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.

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  57. @ChuckOrloski
    "And that unfortunately tells one why the current Republic is in shambles–brain dead voters."

    Above, excessive blame for national demise is placed upon "brain dead voters."

    Even informed American voter-brains are neutralized prior to casting their vote during hokey GOP and Democrat presidential primaries.

    Cunning "polls" decide which candidate is most popular according to the flummoxed public, and the Corporate Media carry the washed-Ones through and onto the theatrical-national TV debate stage.

    Prior to the managed-debates, a brand name & trusted Zio Moderator is anointed to ask candidates questions which are periphery to the actual reason for the "Republic in shambles."

    The runway INFRASTRUCTURE leading to revered American POT(Z)US elections is detoured and public entry needs to be notified with yellow tape that declares in black letters, "Crime Scene Investigation."

    “Even informed American voter-brains are neutralized prior to casting their vote during hokey GOP and Democrat presidential primaries.”

    That’s an excellent point. Blaming the failure of electoral politics on “brain dead voters” ignores the obvious fact that elections are not decided by voters. This is most obvious in presidential elections, considering your valid observation on the “hokey primaries” as well as the blatantly phony reporting once the candidates are chosen.

    I can’t blame the voters when it’s so obvious that voting has so little to do with the outcome of elections.

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  58. KenH says:

    Hate speech is anything the Jews and their brainwashed goys don’t agree with. The platforms that claim they’re fighting hate and intolerance by booting off many on the racial right still allow BLM, anti-white bigots, radical leftists and others calling for white genocide and the death of Trump to use their services.

    So Jewish activism is creating a climate where we have de facto hate speech laws until they can get the de jure version passed in Congress. So far they’re succeeding.

    The left suddenly becomes libertarian and laissez faire when private enterprise is discriminating against groups they don’t like.

    Paul Nehlen is a much better man than Paul Ryan and we need dozens more like him in Congress.

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  59. 1) Social engagement web sites are private property. They are free to censor as they see fit. Just as their customers are free to engage elsewhere.
    2) Why would anyone expect a gossip-based web site to be anything but a constant source of competence-devastating misinformation?
    3) Government making law to control any media has only one end — regardless of the intentions of the authors.
    And I’m pretty sure I learned most of this in grade school.

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  60. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Olorin
    You seriously misunderestimate the control that (((globohive media))) have over the good citizens of Walworth County and environs.

    I include in that category the ecclesiasts who promulgate the notion that it is every Christian's and Ametican's duty to put Israel first and endlessly self-flagellate over The Holocaust (TM).

    And do not forget that Wisconsin has, iirc, the nation's highest percentage of German American voters. Nehlen fascinates because he appears to comprehend these matters of strategic and tactical realpolitik. My sense is that he senses his people's chains, iow.

    For what it's worth, SE Wisconsin, as well as Madison and Milwaukee, is largely run by Illinois, especially Chicago, elites.

    I am sorry but I cannot give the voters a pass. Yes, the media lies. Yes, Ryan looks good in a suit and has a lot of money to spend on campaigns designed to produce high tech lies.

    But if the voters cannot see that this man is their enemy, we are doomed as a republic.

    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.

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    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.
     
    I have to agree with this.

    Democracy means Demokratia "Rule of the People", which means the public evaluating issues, making decisions (voting) and implementing them. It's a pre-modern concept involving a family or a tribe taking responsibility for their own future. They evaluate their resources and aims and work out together what they'll do.

    However, modern Facade Democracy is the lazy mans version. They vote (or maybe not) for a "representative" to do the hard work, and the trouble starts here, since "representatives" like money and power as much as anyone, and it's Special Interests who are offering it rather than the public.

    It's a hard problem to fix, since the typical person isn't going to become politically active. They're too lazy, too busy, lack interest, know they can't influence events, and a myriad other reasons.

    So, realistically, to build a genuine Democracy in a place like the US or anywhere else it's necessary to bring back real power and decision making to the local level, and construct a framework for obligatory public participation.

    TAKE BACK REAL POWER - This means 90% of taxation and 90% of spending decisions are local at the county or state level. Every member of the public needs to attend meetings, evaluate the issues along with their fellow citizens, and vote on and organize their own healthcare, education, policing, state immigration policy etc.

    BUILD A FRAMEWORK -Recognize that full citizen participation is difficult, time consuming and expensive , so do everything necessary to make it possible, with for example 1) specific well prepared meeting places 2) full exposition of opposing opinions 3) simple voting procedures 4) a permanent local Democracy support administration 5) paid days off work (paid by the county/state) each month for meetings and studying issues.

    Unfortunately, it would also need to be obligatory, since Social Responsibility doesn't have as much appeal as a La-Z-boy recliner and a big screen TV.
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  61. Miro23 says:
    @lavoisier
    I am sorry but I cannot give the voters a pass. Yes, the media lies. Yes, Ryan looks good in a suit and has a lot of money to spend on campaigns designed to produce high tech lies.

    But if the voters cannot see that this man is their enemy, we are doomed as a republic.

    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.

    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.

    I have to agree with this.

    Democracy means Demokratia “Rule of the People”, which means the public evaluating issues, making decisions (voting) and implementing them. It’s a pre-modern concept involving a family or a tribe taking responsibility for their own future. They evaluate their resources and aims and work out together what they’ll do.

    However, modern Facade Democracy is the lazy mans version. They vote (or maybe not) for a “representative” to do the hard work, and the trouble starts here, since “representatives” like money and power as much as anyone, and it’s Special Interests who are offering it rather than the public.

    It’s a hard problem to fix, since the typical person isn’t going to become politically active. They’re too lazy, too busy, lack interest, know they can’t influence events, and a myriad other reasons.

    So, realistically, to build a genuine Democracy in a place like the US or anywhere else it’s necessary to bring back real power and decision making to the local level, and construct a framework for obligatory public participation.

    TAKE BACK REAL POWER – This means 90% of taxation and 90% of spending decisions are local at the county or state level. Every member of the public needs to attend meetings, evaluate the issues along with their fellow citizens, and vote on and organize their own healthcare, education, policing, state immigration policy etc.

    BUILD A FRAMEWORK -Recognize that full citizen participation is difficult, time consuming and expensive , so do everything necessary to make it possible, with for example 1) specific well prepared meeting places 2) full exposition of opposing opinions 3) simple voting procedures 4) a permanent local Democracy support administration 5) paid days off work (paid by the county/state) each month for meetings and studying issues.

    Unfortunately, it would also need to be obligatory, since Social Responsibility doesn’t have as much appeal as a La-Z-boy recliner and a big screen TV.

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    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.

    As it is now the scoundrels in power only have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    That the bastard Paul Ryan won in Wisconsin with a significant majority of the vote and the traitor McCain won in Arizona is strong evidence that our Republic is on life support.

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  62. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Miro23

    Voters are charged with informing themselves. That means putting down the Chicago Tribune and the Wall Street Journal, forgetting about the Packers for a bit, and asking what is happening to your nation and why does that bastard want open borders, free trade, raising the retirement age, and cutting off your medical benefits.

    And never a word about stopping the wars for Israel.
     
    I have to agree with this.

    Democracy means Demokratia "Rule of the People", which means the public evaluating issues, making decisions (voting) and implementing them. It's a pre-modern concept involving a family or a tribe taking responsibility for their own future. They evaluate their resources and aims and work out together what they'll do.

    However, modern Facade Democracy is the lazy mans version. They vote (or maybe not) for a "representative" to do the hard work, and the trouble starts here, since "representatives" like money and power as much as anyone, and it's Special Interests who are offering it rather than the public.

    It's a hard problem to fix, since the typical person isn't going to become politically active. They're too lazy, too busy, lack interest, know they can't influence events, and a myriad other reasons.

    So, realistically, to build a genuine Democracy in a place like the US or anywhere else it's necessary to bring back real power and decision making to the local level, and construct a framework for obligatory public participation.

    TAKE BACK REAL POWER - This means 90% of taxation and 90% of spending decisions are local at the county or state level. Every member of the public needs to attend meetings, evaluate the issues along with their fellow citizens, and vote on and organize their own healthcare, education, policing, state immigration policy etc.

    BUILD A FRAMEWORK -Recognize that full citizen participation is difficult, time consuming and expensive , so do everything necessary to make it possible, with for example 1) specific well prepared meeting places 2) full exposition of opposing opinions 3) simple voting procedures 4) a permanent local Democracy support administration 5) paid days off work (paid by the county/state) each month for meetings and studying issues.

    Unfortunately, it would also need to be obligatory, since Social Responsibility doesn't have as much appeal as a La-Z-boy recliner and a big screen TV.

    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.

    As it is now the scoundrels in power only have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    That the bastard Paul Ryan won in Wisconsin with a significant majority of the vote and the traitor McCain won in Arizona is strong evidence that our Republic is on life support.

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    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.
     
    I'm not sure about this one. I have a lot of sympathy with the working poor and wouldn't take away their voting rights. The unintelligent, unskilled or people from troubled backgrounds are also Americans, and if the best that they can do is minimum wage that's OK and they're workers the same as everyone else.

    An improvement would be to greatly reduce the tax rate down to maybe a very simple 10% of income (with no progression) with everyone paying, whatever their income with no exemptions.

    A great advantage would be a basic equality of citizens as workers AND taxpayers. It would be easy for citizens to do their own tax returns and it would probably give sufficient revenue under a local government with 90% of taxes and 90% of spending being local (Washington and friends getting the remaining 10% to waste).
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  63. @Dave Bowman
    And that's just fine - because the "goal" will not and should never be to "persuade" them. It was clear a long time ago that their arrogant, domineering, morally dishonest, utterly hypocritical, disastrously-stupid, ruthless nation-wrecking evil will not ever yield to "persuasion".

    The "goal" is now to defeat and destroy them - before they destroy us all.

    Agreed. It’s them or us.

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  64. Miro23 says:
    @lavoisier
    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.

    As it is now the scoundrels in power only have to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    That the bastard Paul Ryan won in Wisconsin with a significant majority of the vote and the traitor McCain won in Arizona is strong evidence that our Republic is on life support.

    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.

    I’m not sure about this one. I have a lot of sympathy with the working poor and wouldn’t take away their voting rights. The unintelligent, unskilled or people from troubled backgrounds are also Americans, and if the best that they can do is minimum wage that’s OK and they’re workers the same as everyone else.

    An improvement would be to greatly reduce the tax rate down to maybe a very simple 10% of income (with no progression) with everyone paying, whatever their income with no exemptions.

    A great advantage would be a basic equality of citizens as workers AND taxpayers. It would be easy for citizens to do their own tax returns and it would probably give sufficient revenue under a local government with 90% of taxes and 90% of spending being local (Washington and friends getting the remaining 10% to waste).

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    Sounds like a good plan. I am all in favor of a flat tax rate that everyone has to pay--regardless of income.

    But if you are not contributing at some level, you should not have a say in how the government is run.
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  65. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Miro23

    I will add another dimension to the possible preservation of a Republic.

    Only those who actually pay federal income taxes should have the right to vote.
     
    I'm not sure about this one. I have a lot of sympathy with the working poor and wouldn't take away their voting rights. The unintelligent, unskilled or people from troubled backgrounds are also Americans, and if the best that they can do is minimum wage that's OK and they're workers the same as everyone else.

    An improvement would be to greatly reduce the tax rate down to maybe a very simple 10% of income (with no progression) with everyone paying, whatever their income with no exemptions.

    A great advantage would be a basic equality of citizens as workers AND taxpayers. It would be easy for citizens to do their own tax returns and it would probably give sufficient revenue under a local government with 90% of taxes and 90% of spending being local (Washington and friends getting the remaining 10% to waste).

    Sounds like a good plan. I am all in favor of a flat tax rate that everyone has to pay–regardless of income.

    But if you are not contributing at some level, you should not have a say in how the government is run.

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    Agreed. I really like the idea of everyone paying tax and contributing in the same way, for instance 10% across the board. There's a basic equality in all work, and all taxpaying, and throwing out the welfare rights and charity blah.

    Apart from children and the very old, that would leave the truly physically or mentally disabled, and it's surprising how even they can contribute to society in different ways. If they really can't do anything then I see society as their "parent" and they absolutely need to get quality lifetime care from the state.

    Like you say, there will always be some free riders, but they can be treated as exactly what they are, and have their political rights removed. For me the key is "trying to contribute" regardless of the result, and if half of Detroit lost their political rights this way, that would be OK.

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  66. Miro23 says:
    @lavoisier
    Sounds like a good plan. I am all in favor of a flat tax rate that everyone has to pay--regardless of income.

    But if you are not contributing at some level, you should not have a say in how the government is run.

    Agreed. I really like the idea of everyone paying tax and contributing in the same way, for instance 10% across the board. There’s a basic equality in all work, and all taxpaying, and throwing out the welfare rights and charity blah.

    Apart from children and the very old, that would leave the truly physically or mentally disabled, and it’s surprising how even they can contribute to society in different ways. If they really can’t do anything then I see society as their “parent” and they absolutely need to get quality lifetime care from the state.

    Like you say, there will always be some free riders, but they can be treated as exactly what they are, and have their political rights removed. For me the key is “trying to contribute” regardless of the result, and if half of Detroit lost their political rights this way, that would be OK.

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  67. VICE “news” is liberal MSM propaganda packaged to appeal to apolitical neckbeard hipsters. Their coverage of the Syrian war and the Libya fiasco could have been scripted by the DoS. I wouldn’t trust these shifty millennials as far as I could throw them. The original VICE magazine founded by Gavin McInnes and some other guy was funny and not at all PC. That ended when the brand went mainstream and McInnes and other buddy were forced out by the Williamnsburg trustfund layabouts that had colonized the board.

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