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For many on the alt-right, every grievance is, at root, about Jews. Andrew Anglin, host of the most popular alt-right/neo-Nazi website, explains: “the only thing in our movement that really matters [is] anti-Semitism.” If only the Jews were gone, he argues, the white race, freed from bondage, would immediately overcome all of its problems. Where does this attitude come from?

Jews are a conspicuous people, small in number but large in footprint. As Mark Twain wrote in 1899:

If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race….Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk….What is the secret of his immortality?

For many people throughout history, the answer to Twain’s question was simple: Jews conspire among themselves to dominate and disadvantage gentiles. This answer fell out of fashion, at least in polite society, after World War II. Since the 1990s, however, the conspiratorial account of Jewish prominence has taken on a new, more meretricious form in the work of (now retired) California State University, Long Beach psychologist Kevin MacDonald, known affectionately among alt-righters as “KMac.” According to Richard Spencer, the inventor of the term “alt-right” and unofficial leader of the movement: “There is no man on the planet who has done more for the understanding of the pole around which the world revolves than Kevin MacDonald.” And: “KMac…may be the most essential man in our movement in terms of thought leader[ship].” To understand the alt-right’s anti-Semitism, we must understand MacDonald’s ideas, particularly as outlined in his most influential book, The Culture of Critique.

According to MacDonald, Judaism is a “group evolutionary strategy.” Jews possess both genetic and cultural adaptations (including, on the genetic side, high IQ and ethnocentrism) that allow them to develop successful intellectual movements that undermine gentile society and promote their own group continuity. “Jewish intellectual movements,” MacDonald argues, are led by charismatic figures analogous to rabbis. They attack white nationalism while promoting Jewish nationalism, and use pseudoscience to “pathologize” anti-Semitism, which in reality is a justified response to “Jewish aggression.” According to MacDonald, Jewish intellectual movements include Freudianism, Frankfurt School critical theory, and multiculturalism. These movements, MacDonald claims, taught white gentiles to reject ethnocentrism and accept high levels of nonwhite immigration to their countries while tolerating Jewish ethnocentrism and racially restrictive immigration policies in Israel.

MacDonald’s theory and the anti-Semitism of many on the alt-right are largely reactions to the perceived liberalism of Jews. One of us (Cofnas) has just published an academic paper that examines MacDonald’s most influential book, The Culture of Critique, and finds that it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history. MacDonald and the alt-righters are, nevertheless, correct that many liberal leaders over the last hundred years have been Jewish. We’d like to offer an explanation for this phenomenon, as well as determine whether Jewish liberalism is the cause or the result of anti-Semitism.

A Historical Perspective

People who learned everything they know about history from MacDonald’s books may be under the impression that traditional gentile society was marked by “hierarchic harmony” (his term) before Jews began their intellectual assault after the Enlightenment. This is a gross distortion of history. Gentile radicals have been around for centuries, doing exactly what MacDonald thinks is characteristic of Jews. Consider Edmund Burke’s comments on European (gentile) radicals at the time of the French Revolution:

Nor is it in these clubs alone that the public measures are deformed into monsters. They undergo a previous distortion in academies, intended as so many seminaries for these clubs, which are set up in all the places of public resort. In these meetings of all sorts every counsel, in proportion as it is daring and violent and perfidious, is taken for the mark of superior genius. Humanity and compassion are ridiculed as the fruits of superstition and ignorance. Tenderness to individuals is considered as treason to the public.

The French Revolution itself was an entirely successful movement to overturn whatever “hierarchic harmony” had existed in France, and it was led by gentiles and inspired by gentile philosophers. (Many of the gentile philosophers who laid the groundwork for the Revolution, such as Voltaire, were committed anti-Semites.) Radical French thinkers like Rousseau are completely ignored by MacDonald.

MacDonald analyzes the Frankfurt School in great detail and argues that the ideology of the school was constructed to advance Jewish interests by promoting nonwhite immigration and in general undermining white culture. (MacDonald does not mention that, incidentally, many of the Frankfurt School’s fiercest critics were Jews, like Karl Popper, who mocked their work as pseudoscience.) But French existentialism was a movement that was analogous to the Frankfurt School in every important respect…except that the leaders—Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir, and Albert Camus—were white gentiles.

Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre in Beijing, 1955
Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre in Beijing, 1955

Sartre was a leading critic of France and America, and strongly supported nonwhite immigrants in France. The French existentialists produced radical critiques of traditional gentile society and, like the Frankfurt School, advanced pseudoscientific ideas (making demonstrably false claims about human nature and refusing to subject these claims to any test).

It is easy to find gentiles independently developing ideas virtually identical to those promoted by “Jewish intellectual movements.” MacDonald quotes Foucault’s statement: “If I had known about the Frankfurt School in time, I would have been saved a great deal of work. I would not have said a certain amount of nonsense and would not have taken so many false trails trying not to get lost, when the Frankfurt School had already cleared the way.” For MacDonald, this shows how influential the Jewish-dominated Frankfurt School was. But it also reflects the fact that, while the gentile Foucault was influenced by the Frankfurt School, he was independently thinking along the same tracks.

Still, in the past hundred years or so Jews have clearly been overrepresented among the leaders of liberal movements. They were overrepresented among communist leaders and revolutionaries, among prominent immigration advocates, and so on. Even if liberalism is not the Jewish invention that MacDonald claims it is, we still should explain why Jews appear to be disproportionately attracted to it. And is anti-Semitism a response to Jewish liberalism?—or could it be the other way around?

IQ, Persecution, and Political Identity

Mark Twain’s explanation for Jewish intellectual prominence was that “Jews have the best average brain of any people in the world.” Though they make up far less than one percent of the world’s population, Jews have comprised more than half of all world chess champions, about a quarter of Fields medalists in mathematics, and more than a fifth of all Nobel Prize winners. Social scientists have found that Ashkenazi Jews score, on average, around 110-112 on IQ tests (compared to a mean of 100).

Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending argue that high Ashkenazi IQ evolved during the Middle Ages in Europe due to gene-culture co-evolution. Prohibited from entering many blue-collar occupations like farming, Jews turned to finance, particularly money lending, to survive. Records from around the year 1270, for example, report that almost 80 percent of adult male Jews in Roussillon (what is today southern France) made their living as money lenders. Finance requires a relatively high level of verbal and mathematical intelligence, and the hypothesis is that Jews who could not cut it in business tended to drop out of the community or starve.

On Cochran, Hardy, and Harpending’s thesis, these restrictive conditions selected for verbal and mathematical intelligence, not for the ability to engage in the sort of conspiracy against gentiles described by MacDonald. If Cochran et al. are right, we would expect Jews to be overrepresented in science and in the leadership of political movements, as these are both cognitively demanding activities. There is no particular reason to expect Jews to be overrepresented only in liberal movements.

David Horowitz
David Horowitz

Indeed, MacDonald and other anti-Semites largely ignore the fact that Jews have been conspicuously overrepresented among the leadership of all sorts of right-wing movements: anti-communists like Herman Kahn, John von Neumann, and Edward Teller; libertarians like Milton and David Friedman, Ludwig von Mises, Robert Nozick, Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, and Israel Kirzner; traditional conservatives like Allan Bloom, David Horowitz, and Richard Posner; and Donald Trump’s senior policy advisor and perhaps the most influential anti-immigration activist in the United States, Stephen Miller.

But MacDonald seems to be right that Jews were disproportionately involved in radical leftist political movements in the twentieth century, and in the US Jews tend to vote Democrat. We think this can be explained by the high average IQ of Jews in combination with their being a persecuted minority, which has tended to push them toward political views that emphasize social toleration and the free movement of people. In other words, MacDonald reverses the correct order of causation: rather than Jews inviting persecution by advocating cosmopolitan policies that thwart the interests of Europeans, Jews advocated cosmopolitanism as a predictable response to persecution.

Persecution of Jews began for religious reasons in the Middle Ages and morphed into political persecution as Jews began to climb the social ladder, and political leaders saw them as a useful out-group to use as a scapegoat for people’s economic and social woes. For example, when Italian traders inadvertently brought the Black Plague from Asia to Europe, thousands of Jews were murdered in retaliation when Christian peasants decided that the Jews had deliberately infected them.

Fettmilch Riot: The plundering of the Judengasse (Jewry) in Frankfurt on August 22, 1614
Fettmilch Riot: The plundering of the Judengasse (Jewry) in Frankfurt on August 22, 1614

George Orwell understood the psychological benefits of directing disdain toward an out-group in order to foster social cohesion among an in-group. In his great novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four, he gives the character who would receive “two minutes of hate” every day among the proletarians a Jewish name: Goldstein. It is obvious why. Orwell’s implication was that the Soviet Union and other regimes were capitalizing on a human need to have some group to hate in order to foster loyalty and obedience to the leader of the in-group.

There is some evidence in political psychology for a correlation between high IQ and liberal political beliefs. So we might suspect that Ashkenazi Jews, with the highest average IQ in the world, would lean liberal. Interestingly, though, IQ correlates positively with classical liberalism, which emphasizes both social and economic liberty. This seems to be because those with higher intelligence tend to exhibit personality traits like openness to experience and tolerance for different ways of living. But those with higher IQ are more likely to support free-market economic policies (“liberalism” in the old sense of the word). Intelligence is required to understand how trade can be a positive sum game, and how order can emerge from individuals freely interacting with one another.

There are also obvious historical reasons why Jews would tend to gravitate toward liberal and cosmopolitan political philosophies that emphasize the protection of minority rights. In the early twentieth century, socialists rejected natural human hierarchies and urged persecuted minorities to overthrow their oppressors. To many Jews, socialism meant doing away with the legal and social barriers they had faced for more than a millennium. While socialist societies didn’t live up to their promises in practice, the values they espoused were easy for Jews to identify with. The Holocaust reinforced the feeling among Jews that nationalistic movements were dangerous, and that salvation lay in liberal cosmopolitanism.

Can MacDonald Save His Theory?

Popper’s famous criterion to distinguish science from non-science was “falsifiability.” Any legitimate scientific theory, he said, should specify some state of the world which, if it is observed, would make us logically compelled to reject the theory. One of the problems with Popper’s criterion is that there is no such thing as falsification in the strong sense that he envisaged. Any theory can be salvaged in the face of any evidence, though this may require some fanciful theorizing. In practice, we just have to use our judgement to decide which of the competing theories we are considering explains our observations in the most sensible way. As far as MacDonald goes, no single one of the numerous factual errors documented in Cofnas’s paper can be said to “falsify” his theory. Nor can any single example of right-wing Jews or radical gentiles. We just have to use our judgment to decide whether his conspiracy theory is a better explanation of Jewish liberalism than the simpler high-IQ-plus-persecution theory that we advocate.

No amount of evidence can disprove a theory. But as the influential Jewish philosophers of science Thomas Kuhn and Imre Lakatos argued, eventually the number of ad hoc assumptions we have to make in order to sustain a theory in the face of counterexamples becomes so large that the theory shows itself to have no predictive or explanatory value. Maybe MacDonald has an ad hoc explanation for why the most liberal countries in Europe, which in the past few years accepted the largest number of immigrants relative to their population—Sweden and Germany—have a very small number of Jews. Maybe he has another ad hoc explanation for why Jews like Noam Chomsky are the world’s leading critics of Israel. And for why gentiles who were not under the influence of Jews, like Rousseau and Sartre and countless others over the past couple thousand years, have been political radicals. As to whether these ad hoc explanations are convincing, we will have to use our judgment.

We don’t think MacDonald will be able to rescue his hypothesis, built as it is on misrepresented sources and distortions. But for some dishonest alt-right leaders, the literal truth of his ideas is probably not that important. They need an enemy to unify their movement. There is no more convenient a people to play this role than Jews.

Jonathan Anomaly is a core faculty member of the Department of Political Economy, and Assistant Professor in the PPEL Program, at the University of Arizona.

Nathan Cofnas is reading for a DPhil in philosophy at the University of Oxford.

(Republished from Quillette.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. A subject that wasn’t raised in the article, but that I am very curious to hear commenters’ opinions on, is Jewish out-marriage.

    According to MacDonald, Joyce, Anglin, lots of random Twitter accounts with Groyper/Pepe/anime avatars, and so on, Jews are an extremely ethno-centric group who constantly collude, consciously or not, to advance their own interests at the expense of Gentiles. Furthermore, Jews see themselves as non-white, though they lie about this to Gentiles for nefarious purposes. (Remember, this is completely different from when @fashy_pepe88 describes himself as “white” in one tweet about American demographics and “Italian” in another about Meds vs. Nords.)

    However, according to relatively recent numbers from Pew, the Jewish outmarriage rate is 58% overall, and 70% for non-Orthodox Jews (who are the vast majority of influential Jews in media, finance, academia, et cetera.) Furthermore, non-Orthodox Jews have fertility rates below the 2.1 replacement threshold.

    How can this possibly be squared with an account of Jewish behavior secretly being Jews aggressively promoting their interests as an ethnic group? Surely Jews have to exist as a distinct ethny to have interests to promote? Doesn’t it strike you as bizarre that, say, promoting feminism is somehow part of the “Jewish group evolutionary strategy”, but having Jewish offspring is not?

    Indeed, consider the shocking disconnect between alt-right views on Jewish demographics and non-Jewish white demographics. According to white nationalists, from Jared Taylor to Andrew Anglin, miscegenation is a huge threat to the white race, and indeed is often alleged to be aggressively promoted by Jewish advertisements and entertainment media. To virtually all white nationalists, having more white children is a, if not indeed the , top priority (as the infamous 14 words suggest.) Whites, particularly women, who marry non-whites are considered to be disgusting racial traitors, as for instance in the Daily Stormer’s frequently printed articles on the matter.

    Yet Jewish exogamy is around 6 times the white rate of 10%! Imagine the reaction white nationalists would have if a majority or super majority of white marriages were to non-whites! Would they say that whites were doing an excellent job promoting their ethnic interests vis a vis non-whites?

    As I recall, MacDonald had an extremely unconvincing response to this point in one of his books, and there are other matters I’d like to elaborate on later, but this will have to do for the nonce. I look forward to reading reasoned critiques, vitriolic personal attacks, et cetera, in response to my comment tomorrow.

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  2. Just a test comment—I tried to post a comment earlier and it hasn’t appeared, even in the waiting for moderation stage.

    As long as I’m writing this, I might as well add—I’m surprised that the authors made no mention of the validity, or lack thereof, of group selection in the article. As far as I understood, among evolutionary biologists group selection is a very unpopular theory at the moment, quite leaving aside MacDonald’s novel application of it.

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  3. Brabantian says: • Website

    The core issue here is really different than the one in the debate-phrasing above … a ‘debate’ which distracts from the core issue of political life, dominance by oligarchies

    Jews are merely a leading case – tho not the only one – of a self-organising small group, some of whom very prominently and slavishly serve ruling oligarchies … with certain common Jewish group characteristics making groups of Jews into primo oligarch enablers, the ‘kosher nostra’ … These many, visible ‘court Jews’ are highly visible oligarch servants, for an oligarchy which is majority non-Jewish, behind the scenes.

    The ‘Jewish power’ and ‘anti-Semitism’ memes, are oligarch-sponsored vehicles to distract from the oligarchy itself

    Historically, other groups perhaps served as oligarch mafias even more often, notably that of gay men, able to use a religious cover-shroud via the alleged ‘celibacy’ as ‘monks’ or, in the West, un-married Christian ‘priests’. We may be returning today, via SJW Cultural Marxism, to an oligarch use of gay cabals, as their preferred vehicles in place of the Jewish mafias.

    From the web:

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    ‘A Jew’s Guide to Jewish Mafias’ -
    by ‘Rebel Jew’

    Why do oligarchs prefer to use Jewish mafias above all other mafias? They have unique advantages:

    (1) They are intrinsically a small group

    (2) Non-mafia Jews are subject to religious-ethnic commands not to critique fellow Jews in public, so other Jews are ‘in violation’ if they criticise or expose Jewish mafia activities

    (3) As children, Jews are often psychologically harmed in ways that tend to make them neurotically intelligent, manipulative, devious, & ruthlessly desirous of seeking power & wealth … this is done by:
    – (a) Universal male baby child genital mutilation (circumcision) & non-stop reminders of this, leading to Jewish subconscious desire for domination of others, plus mutilating their own children, sublimating the adults’ desire of revenge for their maimed genitals, for bodily harm that can never be undone
    – (b) Constant imaging of Jews being vulnerable & in danger, & outsiders being natural enemies, leading to extreme devious measures being accepted as necessary for Jews to survive, no amount of wealth or power ever being enough to protect a Jew

    (4) Jews indeed have a supremacist ideology embodied in their ‘holy book’ Talmud scripture, aped in turn in the Jewish-derived ‘Abrahamic’ religions of Christianity & Islam. Both from this explicit ideology of the Talmud & rabbi scripture commentaries, & practically in terms of being a resented, attacked & vulnerable people for thousands of years, Jews are given the survival mentality of ‘end justifies the means to achieve success of our group’, ‘we have every right to be devious in any form, because this is necessary for us just to stay alive’

    (5) Jews have a 2000 year tradition of some of them being slavish, co-operative ‘court Jews’ for the highest power in any society, willing to participate in any war or cruelty which makes use of Jewish mafias as enablers

    (6) Easily-induced resentment of prominent Jews who act as manipulating mafias, quickly segues into general anti-Jewish statements which can be condemned as racist, anti-Semitic, hate-criminal, & especially ‘evil’ after 1933-45; & also the inverse is true, in that a shield for Jewish mafias serving oligarchs can be imposed as ‘protecting threatened Jews’ & ‘fighting anti-Semitism’

    (7) Dislike for prominent Jews who act as manipulating mafias, & debate & campaigns about ‘anti-Semitic bigotry’, significantly distract from attention to oligarch power … thus anti-Jewish themes are sometimes even actively promoted by some ‘fake opposition – heat sink’ figures & websites which are funded & operated by oligarch agents

    (8) Jewish groups can cash in on pro-Jewish, pro-Israel cultism in Christianity & Islam, ‘Abrahamic religions’ now affiliating 3 billion people, half the world … Any Christian or Muslim or Western person criticising Jews is in effect criticising his own heritage, plus being ‘anti-Semitic’

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  4. We need to add an element to this discourse. Instead of saying Jewish liberalism is a reaction to persecutions, one could argue it is an OVERreaction to persecutions. I don’t have the link at hand but I think it was Sailer who wrote about Ashkenazim having the “worrier gene”, that is, predisposition to neuroticism and anxiety. Indeed, it is often said that psychiatry was invented by Austrian Jews in order to try to fix the neuroticism in their community or family. Gavin MacInnes wrote he knows very smart Jewish intellectuals who seriously fear Trump would gas them – even though all of Trumps children married Jews, really, if someone has “genetic skin in the game” in not harming Jews, it is Trump.

    My point is, there are perhaps genetic, perhaps cultural Jewish predispositions to being overly nervous, neurotic, anxious, paranoid and this quite likely magnifies the effect Anti-Semitism had on turning them into liberals.

    In my experience, when I debate with liberals, gentile liberals tend to have a moralistic attitude, like “we should not be racist against immigrants” and Jewish liberals tend to have more of a fearful attitude like “if they discriminate against them next time it could be me”. So actually most of the time I tend to tell them “chill out, relax, things are not as dangerous as you think they are” which is something I don’t tell to gentile liberals.

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  5. @the Supreme Gentleman

    As far as group selection, I would think that that theory is so controversial that avoiding diverting the argument was wise. Anyone who rejects formal group selection would reject MacDonald’s theory outright which makes the article null.

    I do think there is a kind of selection going on that is germane and that is selection according to self domestication theory. This pertains to far more than just Jews and gentiles, but appears to have been particularly strong within the Jewish culture, both from internal forces and external. It has also been going on for quite a while in North Asian populations and has much in agreement with Gregory Clark’s thesis in “A Farewell to Alms”.

    Selection is not a gentle process, applying its forces, especially morality, to self domestication in a situation that also has in-group out-group conflict has an explosive potential. This is a much ignored aspect of current cultural strife, not just in reference to anti-semitism, but to race conflict in general.

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    “Jews like Noam Chomsky are the world’s leading critics of Israel.”

    Are you kidding me? A sentence like this shows either gross stupidity or deliberate subterfuge.

    Chomsky has come out in favor of the two-state scam and against BDS. He lived on a kibbutz for a period of time and may in fact hold Israeli citizenship. In all his supposed “critiques” of Israel, he explains nearly all actions taken by Israel as being done at the orders of America. Chomsky more or less denies the existence of the Israel lobby. Chomsky has a giant moral blind spot when it comes to the massive crimes and murderous nature of the Jewish occupation in Palestine. No prize given for figuring out the obvious reasons why. His so-called criticism looks more like controlled opposition.

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  7. I have my doubts that some of the historical points are right. This means that we would also have to discuss the conclusions. I have read that Jews left traditional professions long before they were fobidden to work on them. They didn’t become lawyers and money lenders after they were forbidden to have land. Only a century (more or less) after they had new occupations they were forbidden to have lands. There is also an author who discusses the origins of Yidish and says that when you visit Prag today, you are told that the quarters where Jews lived in old times were swamps, even though they look to be very good places today. But, she says, this is not true. The places were already some of the best on the days they were Jewish quarters. I also think that the history of the historical persecution of the Jews is much more complicated. Take a look at the book by Elliott Horowitz, “Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence (Jews, Christians, and Muslims from the Ancient to the Modern World)”.

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  8. With regard to identity group competition, it would be interesting to use social science to answer the following question: which American identity groups (ethnic, religious, etc.) are most overrepresented and most dominant among:

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    -anti-Christian activists
    -anti-free speech activists
    -anti-gun activists
    -anti-Muslim activists
    -anti-Russia activists
    -anti-white activists
    -Antifa leaders
    -billionaires
    -CFR members
    -cultural Marxists
    -Democratic Party big funders
    -Democratic Party leaders
    -ethnic nationalists
    -feminist activists
    -foreign lobbyists
    -globalist leaders
    -hedge fund leaders
    -Hollywood leaders
    -intersectionalist activists
    -mainstream media leaders
    -neoconservative leaders
    -neoliberal leaders
    -policy think tank leaders
    -pro-abortion activists
    -pro-illegal immigration activists
    -pro-Internet censorship activists
    -pro-Iran War activists
    -pro-Iraq War activists
    -pro-mass surveillance activists
    -pro-torture activists
    -religious nationalists
    -Republican Party big funders
    -Republican Party leaders
    -Silicon Valley leaders
    -university leaders
    -Wall Street leaders

    What are the most significant patterns in the data? Where are the greatest concentrations of identity group power, and what are the connections among those power centers?

    A related question:

    Which are the most ethnocentric groups among American ethnic groups? Which groups most organize their politics around ethnic activism?

    A few broader questions:

    Which ethnic groups in the world have been most embroiled in conflicts with other ethnic groups over the last century? Which groups worldwide have been most ethnocentric? Which groups are the most influential on the global stage?

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  9. Otto_ says:

    It’s a straw-man attack: It’s not Jewish “Nepotism” and their “group strategy” that causes their privilege, it’s their “high IQ” and their location. (In urban areas, close to other Jews)

    This article is a joke because it literally says KMac has to explain how Noam Chomsky could exist if his theory is true.

    It also presents Rousseau as a non-Jewish subversive, which is presented as a fallacious “negation” or “counterexample” of KMac’s theory. (Rousseau wasn’t alleged to practice a nepotistic group strategy)

    It’s also serving the Alt-Right cause because it just says that Jews DESERVE their privilege by being smart and in the right places. It doesn’t deny they have Jewish privilege.

    Admits that Jews are elite cosmopolitans in urban areas because of their high IQ and have disproportionate influence.

    Ignores the consideration of if their influence is negative, positive, or (willfully) exploitative.

    Only talks about “how” Jews exert their power. Not “IF” they exert power disproportionately.

    “As far as MacDonald goes, no single one of the numerous factual errors documented in Cofnas’s paper can be said to “falsify” his theory. Nor can any single example of right-wing Jews or radical gentiles. We just have to use our judgment to decide whether his conspiracy theory is a better explanation of Jewish liberalism than the simpler high-IQ-plus-persecution theory that we advocate.”

    This article is a case-study in fallacious reasoning. Because it acknowledges Jewish privilege, and their urban, cosmopolitan bent (only from their high IQs, they swear!!!), it’s enough to Red Pill people, because Jewish privilege, which is intimately tied to the “Jewish Cause”, even if ‘accidental’, is still worth countering.

    This is some spicy Alt-Right material after all.

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  10. This article is an improvement over antisemitic blather which has become the identifier of Unz site. On the other hand, authors seem to perpetuate many old myths; also, their critique is within boundaries of strong IQ orthodoxy.

    So, just a few casual observations.

    Evo-psych is not much of a science, which makes it similar to psychoanalysis. I am not saying it is worthless, just … MacDonald simply does not understand roots of Freudian psychoanalysis (Schopenhauer, Pierre Janet, intellectual climate of the fin de siecle, ..). Freud thought of himself as “Darwin of the Mind” & hoped that his “metaphysics of mind” would prove to be as exact as biology or physiology at the turn of the century. Nothing “subversive” about it, just a failed science & great literature. Freud’s work remains one of the monuments of modern German (and Western) literature, similar to that of literary philosophers like Schopenhauer & Nietzsche- but it is basically useless either as a branch of psychiatry or a therapy. Essentially, Freud was a mythmaker (primal horde, the dynamic unconscious which is subconscious, triple division of mind, complexes, defense mechanisms, eros & thanatos,..). You have all this (and more) in Sophocles, Shakespeare, Schopenhauer & Dostoevsky. Were they, what, “Aryan” subversives?

    Ashkenazi IQ myth. http://www.unz.com/article/iq-or-the-mathverbal-split/
    In essence, this is a complex issue & one can not find strong correlation between higher IQ & human accomplishment. Historically, most Jewish accomplishment came from Sephardi/Iberian & North-African Jews (Maimonides, Joseph Karo, Spinoza, ..), while Ashkenazim were lagging until German Enlightenment in late 18th C.

    We simply don’t know why some groups (Greeks in 700 BC to 200 BC, Mongols in 12th C to 14th C, Florentine Italians from 1300 to 1600, Germans from 1750s to 1940s, ..) are vastly over-represented in many areas, or in some specific fields. Jewish over-representation is now perhaps 100-150 years long. Why? We don’t know.

    US Jews are naturally leftists because they come, overwhelmingly, from eastern European highly politicized, “progressivist” & socialist milieu of the 2nd half of the 19th C.

    As for Frankfurt school, Marxism,… MacDonald does not know much about these issues. He is probably too old to revise his ideas, but his followers could try to broaden their horizons.

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  11. This a pretentious article and a dishonest one. It is in no way a refutation of Kevin MacDonald’s impressive scholarship, conclusions or even basic observations about collective Jewish conduct. Even the title of this article is misleading: ‘What the Alt-Right Gets Wrong about Jews’.

    So what exactly does the Alt-right gets wrong? (And what does it get right?)

    What does it get wrong? Well… essentially everything (according to these two Jewish writers.) And that’s a lot. Too much. But where’s the beef in this article? It’s totally missing. These two hasbara operatives don’t even seem familiar with many of MacDonald’s insights on Jewish ‘survival strategies’ and their deceptive modus operandi.

    All these two lightweights do is reference Jewish authority figures heavily and cherry-pick a few weaknesses in one book. But they don’t take MacDonald head-on. ‘High IQ persecution’? Boloney. Smart and accomplished people tend to be admired. Even rich ones. It’s exploitive and parasitic peoples (of any IQ) who are resented.

    Also: what do Anomaly and Cofnas believe that the Alt-Right gets right? Anything at all? They never say. Their entire thesis (if there is one) is reactionary and one-sided. These two crypto-supremacists agree only with MacDonald that (Ashkenazi) Jews are (often) smarter (as measured using standard IQ tests) than average folk. To them, that explains everything.

    Jewish genius. Enviable. Indomitable. Spectacular. Most moral. Bow your heads, children.

    All because of an average IQ of 110? That measure of average (Ashkenazi) intelligence (though somewhat impressive) does not touch upon the vast and often corrosive impact of international Zionist influence-peddling. That is what MacDonald examines.

    For all their accomplishments, Jews have a reputation for exploiting outsiders and often doing harm to the non-Jewish world.

    Moreover, as far as IQ goes, Mormons and Presbyterians come in at nearly that number (as do most Japanese as well as several high-IQ European countries such as Germany, Holland and the Netherlands). So there’s a bit of dissembling going on here, as well as ethnic cheerleading. This is very typical of Jews. MacDonald refers to such chutzpah ‘Jewish intensity’. It’s certainly real. And it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

    As for intelligence, the average IQ in Israel is actually below 100. Amazing, but true. There are plenty of not-very-brilliant Jews out there. But they all benefit from a special status now. And privilege. This is attributable to Jewish dominion over most of American mass media. Ironically, as Jewish leaders orchestrate multiple wars of aggression (using American power), Jews as a class continue to enjoy their untouchable status as the world’s foremost victims. This is a brilliant accomplishment. And a diabolical one.

    The National Socialist State of Israel (with the help of American and German taxpayers) also makes certain that every single Jew in Israel receives foreign succor delivered to them just for being Jewish. It’s compensation that may never end. So much for Free Markets, eh?

    But this IQ brouhaha is a distraction. It has little to do with MacDonald primary thesis or the fundamental goals of the Alt-right, which is to eliminate the gag order on white advocacy and to re-establish the right of whites to enjoy their Freedom of Association. This struggle is not fundamentally about the Jews. In America, jurists of many persuasions have been chipping away at freedom and liberty for decades. The Alt-Right properly understands that the enemies of freedom and white interests fly under many banners.

    But the Alt-right does speak for millions of Americans who wish to preserve their civilization for themselves and their descendents.

    Countless leftists (and Jews) however want to deny us our rights; even our right to Free Speech and public assembly. This is unfair and unconstitutional.

    According to MacDonald, many Jewish intellectual movements (which have also represented themselves as universal and utopian) have imposed huge cost on white societies and white political interests. But we’re not supposed to examine this. MacD0nald connects the dots. For this reason, Jews are targeting him. My TV interview with MacDonald on YouTube has been edited without my consent. This is Jewish censorship. Limiting speech is one tactic they use to maintain their power.

    According to MacDonald, deception also plays a key role how Jews manage their affairs and maintain their status, cohesion and influence. Says MacDonald, “the best deceivers are self-deceivers’. Thus, numerous Jewish-lead intellectual movements over the past 100 years have functioned like a Trojan Horse. This is one genesis of ‘anti-Semitism’.

    With that in mind, consider these peculiar facts about ‘liberal, democratic’ Israel:

    Does the Jewish state intend (or even attempt) to integrate Jews with gentiles? No. It actually spearheads genetic segregation.

    Is there a widespread attempt in Israel to ever ‘separate synagogue from state’? No. Unlike America, where Jews commonly get hysterical over the sight of a cross on public property, orthodox Judaism fits in fine even among secular Jews.

    Does Israeli television glamorize miscegenation in the Jewish state (between Jews and gentiles) like Hollywood does here in America (between blacks and whites?) Absolutely not. Jews many not marry non-Jews inside Israel. As a ‘Western democracy’, Israel enjoys a lot of special privileges.

    How, for instance, can Noam Chomsky be declared “Israel’s greatest critic” when the old professor still opposes BDS and promotes to the lie that Zio-America’s wars against Iraq were “wars for oil” and that Israel is “a tool of Washington”. Total malarkey. Chomsky epitomizes Jewish ‘controlled opposition’.

    True and powerful Jewish critics of Israel (and Israel’s impact on the world) do exist but they are rare. Standouts include Gilad Atzmon, Jeff Blankfort and (usually) Israel Shamir and Philip Weiss. There are others of course. But Jewish intellectuals generally pull their punches when it comes to the Jewish state. On this subject, they suffer from a huge conflict-of-interest on this subject. Yet there they are. Gentiles aren’t often allowed to speak critically about Jews or Israel power.

    We gentiles are just not supposed to notice the privileges, double standards and special rules that Jews are allowed to play by. But if we do notice, we’re not supposed to say anything unkind. Criticism (of Jews) is anti-Semitic!

    MacDonald unmasks many of these double standards, thought crimes and assorted deceptions. Insightfully. Abundantly.

    As for ‘Jewish genius and accomplishment’ phenomena (this is the explanation Jews like to give for the tensions and disparity between Jews and non-Jews), it actually pales besides the achievement of Western Europe (beginning with the Greeks and Romans) through the Enlightenment and into the industrial and scientific revolutions of modern day. So this ‘high IQ persecution’ theory does not hold water. The world is full of wonderful, brilliant people. Some happen to be Jewish. Most not. Great people are generally appreciated. It’s deception and insidious tribalism that people detest.

    But the key fact is this: MacDonald does correctly identify the broad (and often subversive) impact that numerous Jewish-led intellectual movements have had on the West. The canvas he paints is broad, insightful and compelling. For example:

    Marxism

    Radical Marxism not only destabilized Europe and destroyed the Christian-based monarchy in Russia, but Jewish Bolsheviks wrote the propaganda, created the Red Army, and spearheaded the international communist Revolution. This ‘utopian’ movement caused massive death and suffering, it enslaved millions, and it ate up much of Eastern Europe in addition to Russia. Millions of Christians died. Countless churches burned. But not synagogues.

    Incredibly, in ‘classless’, post-Revolutionary Russia, Jews (unlike Christians) became a special, protected class. Jews enjoyed immense political power for decades in the USSR.

    These extraordinary facts are downplayed (if not ignored ) in our history books as well as in our popular culture. Why?

    Freudianism and the Frankfurt School of Social Research

    Politicized pseudo-science like the Frankfurt School of Social Research as well as Freud’s discredited, a-scientific collection of ‘theories’ explained away ‘anti-Semitism’ as a psychiatric disorder. In the Frankfurt School, whites who expressed strong family loyalties were viewed as harboring repressed pathologies and xenophobias.

    Immigration

    America’s belatedly-acknowledged crisis involving the ethnic transformation of the West (via legal and illegal immigration) is covered with Jewish fingerprints. Jewish intellectuals (as well as mega-wealthy Jewish donors behind the scenes) have played a pivotal role in this unsought and unpopular transformation. MacDonald’s documents the key role played by organized Jewry in this dangerous and irreversible experiment. MacDonald makes the case that Jews feel safer in mixed societies where a (white) majority can no longer threaten their imperial status. Therefore, ‘diversity’ (outside of Israel) is good for Jewish safety.

    Decades of efforts by organized Jewish groups (such as the American Jewish Committee) to change US immigration laws culminated in the 1965 Immigration Reform Act. This was a win for Jews. It undermined the security and power however of white Americans.

    Meanwhile, Jews in Israel and throughout the ‘diaspora’ work tirelessly to keep Israel Jewish and separate. This hypocrisy is hard to ignore. And it’s revealing.

    The Alt-right is not interested just in problems created by Jewish activism and tribalism. There is also the (sometimes) destructive impact of ‘gay’ rights, feminist advocacy, coerced racial integration, and unchecked illegal immigration; as well as the ongoing crisis of preemptive US wars that always end up targeting the foes of Israel.

    These are real issues. Real problems. And at the center of many of them are ruthless Jewish activists who pretend to be motivated by principle rather than tribal considerations. These deceptions must be exposed and resisted.

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  12. Lot says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    You nailed it.

    All the “big name” antisemites are losers at life who attention-whore and resent people who are successful in the USA. Adopting the views and ideology of one of the most evil men in history, who killed the relations of so many Americans, is a great way to grab attention and shock the squares. They are adults with the maturity of tantrum-throwing toddlers and 13-year-old “youtube stars.”

    Fortunately, right wing anti-semites are failing. While Israel is more popular than ever in three decades of polling, there is a shift in the polls. The people MacDonald/Spencer want to reach, white American Republican voters, are rapidly becoming MORE supportive of Israel. This is partially offset by a decline in support among Democrats. Seems as if Farrakhan, Corbyn, and the Muslim Supremacy left-wing Jew-haters are a lot more competent/convincing than MacDonald!

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  13. Rosie says:

    “But MacDonald seems to be right that Jews were disproportionately involved in radical leftist political movements in the twentieth century, and in the US Jews tend to vote Democrat. We think this can be explained by the high average IQ of Jews in combination with their being a persecuted minority, which has tended to push them toward political views that emphasize social toleration and the free movement of people. In other words, MacDonald reverses the correct order of causation: rather than Jews inviting persecution by advocating cosmopolitan policies that thwart the interests of Europeans, Jews advocated cosmopolitanism as a predictable response to persecution.”

    What “persecution” of Jews caused the Hart-Cellar Act?

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  14. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Because sophisticated Jewish intellectuals have not got caught on the record advocating particularism for themselves and universalism for their hosts*1* does not mean that this is not the net behavior of the Jewish community.

    Let’s look at money as one measure: How much Jewish money goes towards supporting “universalist” causes in the West, and fighting the “far right?” (SPLC, ADL) How much goes towards supporting the “far right” (Amren, American Freedom Party)? Which is greater? On the other hand, how much Jewish money goes towards supporting Israel? (Buying venal politicians, supporting settlement construction, birthright Israel trips) And how much go to opposing Israel’s ethnonationalistic initiatives and the ejection of the Palestinians? (Mandating sympathetic teaching of the Nakba in American/Israeli public schools? Buying congressmen trips to the West Bank and Gaza? Supporting BDS?

    I’m sure that they easily fund, (10 to 1), the cause of the Israelis over the Palestinians in Israel, and (10 to 1) the interests of the coalition of the fringes over the interests of the ethnonationalists (like Spencer) in the U.S. This is hypocrisy, and it’s measurable.

    Hypothetical: If 50% of diaspora Jews support nationalism in Israel, while not opposing it for the West, and the other 50% oppose nationalism in the West, while making only a token effort to oppose it in Israel – even though no single Jew is behaving hypocritically – is not the collective effect of the Jewish community highly hypocritical? It is.

    Leading Jewish intellectuals do not often get caught on the record hypocritically advocating for themselves what they deny others, but average Jews do. In my experience, the plurality, if not the majority, of average Jews hold unexamined(?) hypocritical positions on US and Israel. And it’s easy to catch them fumbling for words in an attempt to justify their position.*2*

    * * *

    Cofnas seems to agree with much of what Kevin says. Cofnas argues that Jews are liberal because they’re smart, urban and persecuted. Kevin’s sin is apparently that he focuses too much on the “persecution” as the explanatory factor for Jewish liberalism, and instead of stressing the “persecution” he describes a situation where there are two groups in conflict. Here is Theodor Herzl’s take: “When we sink, we become a revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of all revolutionary parties; and at the same time, when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.” This sounds like a group conflict in which Jews are not just the ones getting persecuted.*3*

    * * *

    If I changed the group names from Jews and Gentiles to Jabbers and Woks, and I described how the Jabbers were a tiny minority who dominate the media and economy of their host society (and ruthlessly censored or ostracized any who notice or criticise this), you’d be surprised to learn that there was no abuse or “exclusionary nepotism” or “culture of critique” or other form of prejudice and privilege. The norm throughout history is that such power imbalances inevitably lead to abuse. If Kevin had written the same thing about Brahmins in India, would anyone (except maybe Brahmins in India) be outraged?

    * * *

    Jewish Exogamy is a new phenomenon. I don’t see how it disproves anything that about what MacDonald has written of Jewish behavior in the past.

    Question: Does exogamy grow or shrink the Jewish community? Practically, this depends on how Jewish identity evolves in the future both in terms of self-identity and the acceptance of that self-identity by the larger community. It’s hard to predict, but my guess based on anecdotal experience with part-Jews, is that it will *grow* the Jewish community, due to a high-rate of Jewish self-identification among mischlings.

    Does Exogamy show that the Jewish community has recently become less ethnocentric than it used to be? Yes, I think so, but it does not disprove KMac’s theories as they pertain to Jews in history.

    *1* Apparently excepting Podhoretz, who did in fact do this?

    *2* And, this is a Rabbi, so higher than average.

    *3* Bernard Lazare’s take is similar.

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  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Jews say they oppose White Nationalists because they’re “anti-Semitic.” White Nationalists say they oppose Jews because Jews undermine white interests. Is it as simple as these two groups coming together, having a kumbaya moment, and agreeing to let bygones be bygones and support each other? Or, is one side or the other being disingenuous?

    MacDonald has said that he would support Israel in exchange for Jewish support for white nationalism. There are many who would support Jewish Zionism for mutual support. How many Jews would un-hypocritically support White Zionism in exchange? Very few.

    The hypocrisy is overwhelmingly coming from the Jews. Cofnas: You want to prove that Jewish hypocrisy isn’t a thing? How many Jews could you gather to make thing agreement, and support of White Nationalism – and how many white Christians already support Israel and get nothing in exchange? Disprove this hypocrisy by agreeing to support White Nationalism in exchange for mutual support for Israel, and by getting the majority of Jews to agree to the same terms.

    Prediction: Jews would never agree to this unless their back were up against a wall. Why would they, when they get the best of both worlds? They can actively dispossess both of their “threats”: Whites in Europe and the US, and Palestinians in Israel.

    It seems to me that Cofnas’ labeling of MacDonald’s work as “pseudo-science” is a show of bad faith to the ends of ending this obvious hypocrisy. The Cofnases of the world need to show good faith by giving a little for a change, and by directing their critiques not at honest, good-faith academics like MacDonald, but their fellow hypocritical Jews.

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  16. Lot says:

    Pinker on KMac

    MacDonald has already announced that I will reject his ideas because I am Jewish, so what’s the point of replying to them?. . .MacDonald’s various theses, even if worthy of scientifically debate individually, collectively add up to a consistently invidious portrayal of Jews, couched in value-laden, disparaging language. It is impossible to avoid the impression that this is not an ordinary scientific hypothesis

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  17. Lot says:

    MacDonald has said that he would support Israel in exchange for Jewish support for white nationalism.

    Jews: Run much of the world

    Kevin MacDonald and his antisemite friends: Run an apartment near Cal State Long Beach and a trailer park in Paoli, Indiana.

    Jews do have some formidable enemies. Like Persia and the Western European far left/Islamic alliance that might take over the UK eventually, and which has already forced Jews out of UK Labour Party. Right wing antisemites in the USA are not on this list. No need to deal with powerless Cal State Long Beach losers.

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  18. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Lot: “I lost the argument, but I don’t care, because we Jews are big and strong. You white nationalists are weak and have no institutional power. We get away with our hypocrisy, and we’re not sorry. Like the Christian teenagers my co-ethnics raped across Eastern Europe, I gladly rub your nose in your defeat. Haha. White nationalist losers.”

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  19. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Jews vote for the left party out of self-interest, not out of universalist love for humanity. According to Stephen Isaacs, the author of Jews and American Politics, Jews “aren’t liberal voters.” “They are the most self-interested voters in the society.” They are “afraid of the right” and the Republican party because it’s the party that has historically “housed most of the anti-Semites.” Jews are not liberal. They are not universalists. They are particularists. It just so happens that the party that best fits their particularist agenda in the diaspora is the “liberal leftist” party (and in Israel, Likud-the opposite). In fact, all minorities vote for leftist parties for the same reason. The only universalist group in Western countries are the white Christians who vote left. They’re the only ones engaging in etho-masochism in the belief that this makes a better world. If Jews behaved the same, they’d vote for parties that benefited the interests of the white Christian majority. Thus, this undermines Cofnas’ argument that the most parsimonious argument for why Jews vote for the left party is that they’re effectively just smarter, more urban, white universalist Christians. They’re mostly not.*0*

    * * *

    Pinker is blinkered by his ethnocentrism, I’m afraid. He’s no Herzl or Bernard Lazare. They were much more honest men and capable of introspection. Pinker entertained the intriguing, but (honestly, essentially) baseless idea that Jews have high IQs due to heterozygosity for Tay-Sachs-like-diseases.*1*2*3* MacDonald’s argument is much more parsimonious*4* but Pinker discards it with short shrift. They may both be true or false, but the discrepancy in his treatment of each is egregious.

    The position that Jews enjoy right now is what Herzl called the “terrible power of the purse” phase. Jews are strong. As Lot says, “Jews: Run much of the world.” This puts them in a privileged position where they can comfortably make enemies of the little people.*5* Historically, this stimulates an immune response in their host, and eventually leads to the peasants “persecuting” them. The Jews flee, and beg to be let in to the next country where they “promise they’ll be good this time.” Then, it starts all over again, a cycle that’s gone on for millennia. It’s a cycle Herzl saw, and it motivated his Zionism.*6*

    * * *

    *0* If there were no Jewish hypocrisy, you’d expect Jewish Americans to vote for the American analogue of Likud (which would be an ethno-nationalist party far to the right of the Republican party) at the same rate that they vote for Likud (and everything to its right, put together) in Israel. They don’t even vote for the Republican party at that rate.

    *1* Or that high-frequency of these diseases was indicative of Darwinian selection for intelligence.

    *2* The Irish, Cajuns and a population of French Canadians also have a high carrier rate for Tay-Sachs. Are they known for their high IQs? There’s never been an IQ study done on Tay-Sachs heterozygotes that reported evelated IQ.*7* It’s baseless speculation atop baseless speculation, but it’s cited credulously everywhere, including by Pinker. Pinker’s not objective when it comes to his own people.

    *3* The only biological evidence we have for the cause of Jewish intelligence is studies of Jewish brain size. Those studies, though small, suggest that their brains are slightly smaller than Gentile brains, which is the opposite you’d expect for a genetic explanation, suggesting that Jewish IQ is a product of culture and not genetics. (On the other hand, Asians Brains > White Brains > Black Brains, which is exactly what you expect for a genetic explanation.)

    *4* Though, not necessarily in its entirety.

    *5* “We’re big and strong and we have institutional power. We get away with our hypocrisy, and no, we’re not sorry. And no, we feel no compunction over the fact that you were the one who took us in when we were weak and needy.”

    *6* Also, see Bernard Lazare’s commentary.

    *7* There was one that said they’re not depressed, however.

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  20. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    To correct one point, torsion dystonia is reportedly more common among Ashkenazis, and is associated with higher IQs, so that is at least some evidence in favor of the genetic explanation. (I should note that the same is true of myopia, but the most parsimonious causal factor is not pleiotropy, but spending time indoors reading causing both high IQ scores and near-sightedness. A similar explanation could apply to torsion dystonia, as well.)

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  21. Gleimhart says:

    I believe everything the authors say about MacDonald’s research because Jews are definitely not notorious liars who are always ready with the “Nothing to see here!”

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  22. Gleimhart says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bardon Kaldian is always ready with the “Nothing to see here” crapola, not to mention the approving use of “anti-Semitic” as a legitimate term rather than the obviously manipulative and nonsensical one that it is. For whatever odd reason, Bardon thinks being a Professor of Literature gives you wisdom, but I have yet to see him display any. That said, better he post here than at Takimag. Some of us don’t enjoy wading through bullshite that’s running neck deep.

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  23. One of us (Cofnas) has just published an academic paper that examines MacDonald’s most influential book, The Culture of Critique, and finds that it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history.

    And you have also, of course, destroyed the the egregious MacDonald in open debate.

    Maybe MacDonald has an ad hoc explanation for why the most liberal countries in Europe, which in the past few years accepted the largest number of immigrants relative to their population—Sweden and Germany—have a very small number of Jews.

    And obviously a very small number of people can never have any influence on a nation. This is an iron law of history. Nor do Sweden and Germany have any contact with the rest of the world, so obviously no outside influences can be at work there.

    By the way, here is one of those Jews in Sweden satirizing MacDonald’s egregious conspiracy-theorizing:

    Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive. – Barbara Lerner Spectre, the founding director of Paideia, the European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden, a non-denominational academic institute established in 2001.

    (the video is banned in some countries)

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  24. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    How badly does Lot think that White nationalists want to support Trotsky’s felon great grandson attack Palestinians and steal their land?

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  25. Rosie says:
    @Anon

    Interestingly, there is one very simple way Jews could decisively refute Kmac: Come out en masse and support White advocacy.

    When Whites came under attack for “racism,” we proceeded to do just that. We bent over backwards, and indeed have compromised our own interests in historically-unprecedented fashion, hoping that Jews would stop attacking us, all to no avail.

    The difference in the way these groups respond to criticism speaks volumes.

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  26. According to MacDonald, Jewish intellectual movements include Freudianism, Frankfurt School critical theory, and multiculturalism.

    They left out Franz Boas anthropology (chapter 2 of Culture of Critique).

    The article approvingly quotes Cochran and Harpending on Ashkenazi IQ, so the authors obviously accept the existence of genetic group differences in intelligence.

    I would think they would have something to say trying to defend Jews against their alleged role in promoting race/IQ denialism.

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  27. Jason Liu says:

    His conclusion doesn’t sound so different, though. Jews encourage liberal cosmopolitanism out of fear of majority persecution, that’s completely in line with alt-right thinking (and a very real problem).

    Some criticisms I do agree with:

    1. MacDonald portrays Jewish behavior in an overly Darwinian manner. Jews are not highly specialized parasites evolved to suck off white society, their behavior is simply what any aggressive minority would do if they could. Jews are just better than others at the minority game, owing to a mix of paranoid neuroticism, intelligence, and wealth/power.

    2. The alt-right likes to portray Jews as hypocrites, liberalism for you and nationalism for them. This is just flat out wrong. The vast majority of leftist Jews (the kind that causes problems) are secular and liberal even towards Israel. They’re lukewarm on Israeli issues at best, often completely apathetic. Go to Israel and you’ll find a significant number of left-wing Jewish true believers who shriek constantly about their conservative government. Genuinely two-faced Jews are nowhere as common as liberal internationalist Jews.

    3. A good amount of evils ascribed to Jews are actually consequences of white behavior. Namely universalism, individualism, extreme devotion to abstract ideas, puritanical moral outrage, anti-authoritarianism, unrealistic views of women, etc. Sometimes these are good things, sometimes they’re not. A society without those things would’ve probably silenced the leftists, built an armed border wall, and thrown out the Jews by now.

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  28. I think most Americans, don’t hate Jews and aren’t “anti-semitic”, they’re just tired of not having a say in what goes on in the country they live in.
    Its hard not to notice AIPAC pulling the strings, and the fact that they control the money. If gentiles run the Federal reserve, and could print all the money they wanted to, at someone else’s expense, and hand it out to other gentiles of their choosing, well, gentiles would probably be doing very well, just as the Jews are…
    Its also hard to ignore the facts around 9/11, its pretty clear that the wars are not benefiting America, who is benefiting? Just ask Netanyahu..
    Theres a reason they’ve been violently chased out of so many countries, and I don’t think it is simply because of their religion. Seems like Jews would realize this and at the very least, try to cool things off. In reality it seems they double down on the madness.
    Things are changing, even in the deep south where you used to hear lots of folks defend Israel relentlessly, they’re starting to see what should have been obvious long ago. Israel is dragging America into the abyss, and it must be stopped.
    I’m pretty sure the reason Obama won the presidency was because people might have believed he would be the one to drop the hammer on Israel first policies, nope…..
    This is why Moore lost in Alabama and Saccone lost in Penn, Trump and the Repubs are once again putting Israel first. The voters that won Trump the election are not gonna show up to vote for any more puppets.

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  29. hyperbola says:
    @Jason Liu

    What “liberal” jews? Hardly exists.

    Lamenting the Decline of “Liberal Zionism” Is a Futile Enterprise Because It Never Really Existed

    http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=641

    Seem like parasites much of the time. The exceptions seem to be a very small minority that are heavily attacked by zionists.

    Judaism’s Moral Integrity Is Threatened by Blind Support for Israel

    http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=636

    The Zionist Attack on Jewish Values

    http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=520

    ….. Mainstream Judaism, however, is ever more closely identified with Zionism and the state of Israel. There are some 13 million Jews throughout the world (approximately 5.8 million of them live in the United States as compared to 4.6 million in Israel). According to the Jewish Agency, “70% of Jews around the world see Israel as vital to their Jewish identity.” Zionist education is aimed at the remaining 30%, who are categorized as victims of “assimilation and Jewish illiteracy.” Again, quoting the Jewish Agency, “Jewish Zionist education is a critical aspect of Jewish continuity and identity.” This effort, ongoing since before the Balfour Declaration, has been remarkably successful. Walk into the vast majority of synagogues anywhere in the world, and you will see pictures, posters, declaratory statements, or other indicators of a connection with the State of Israel. Talk to the congregants and you soon find that they see Judaism and the Israeli state as inseparably bound together. It is in fact the case that most Jews have been raised to be viscerally concerned with the well-being of this tribal state. …..

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  30. hyperbola says:

    As in many other areas, jewish strategy relative to “alt-right” is to provide “controlled gatekeepers” and defame those who resist.

    Milo Yiannopoulos is a Zionist Charlatan

    Meet The Billionaire Jewish Family Funding Breitbart And Milo Yiannopoulos

    http://www.returnofkings.com/131883/meet-the-billionaire-jewish-family-funding-breitbart-and-milo-yiannopoulos

    Some of Steve Bannon’s Friends Are Jewish — and They Love His Zionism

    https://forward.com/news/354384/some-jews-decry-breitbart-editor-as-anti-semite-others-praise-him-as-proud/

    …. Breitbart’s origin story has its roots in Israel, according to Larry Solov, Breitbart’s CEO and president, another close Jewish colleague of Bannon.

    In a November 2015 post on Breitbart News, Solov describes the conception of the news site in 2007. It happened, Solov writes, during a trip to Israel with Andrew Breitbart, the Jewish founder and namesake of the website.

    The site was born to defend the Jewish state….

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  31. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu

    ” Genuinely two-faced Jews are nowhere as common as liberal internationalist Jews.”

    You really need to subscribe to the NYTimes. Every day brings an ed., op or otherwise, explicitly arguing “X for me, not for thee.” Every …. single…. day.

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  32. I. Kevin McDonald

    It is worth discussing McDonald’s theory. However, it does not necessarily represent the views of most people on the Alt-Right.

    II. Jewish intelligence

    It is true that, for whatever reason, the Ashkenazim have higher intelligence than Gentiles. This is especially noticeable when looking at very high intelligence, because the steeply declining tail of the Bell Curve is simply shifted to the right. Among the “great and good” in Gentile countries, Ashkenazim are 10 times more numerous than among the general population.

    Among other things, this leads to spectacular Jewish contributions to science, technology, and business, to which we can only say “thank you very much!”

    However, it also means that contributors to the media, both as journalists and as their objects of study, have ten times as many Jews as the general population. Anyone who forms their impression of a country from its media would assume that Britain is 5% Jewish, the USA 25%.

    25% is a lot. We often hear that some profession or another needs to “look like America”, but this particular over-representation is not up for discussion. In fact, if you so much as mention it, you are likely to find that your career has abruptly ended.

    The overrepresentation becomes important when people in politics or the media act ethnocentrically.

    III. Ethnocentrism

    Everybody thinks ethnocentrically to some extent.

    Anybody who argues on the basis of the Holocaust or the Russian pogroms is thinking ethnocentrically. If they are motivated by the subject but have learned not to mention it, they are still thinking ethnocentrically. Their concerns are quite understandable and deeply human.

    Some honesty would be welcome here. It is too easy to deplore mild ethnocentrism in the ethnic majority, while practising it oneself.

    But honesty is in short supply. Anyone in public life who, rightly or wrongly, voices suspicion of Jewish ethnocentrism in politics or the media, but without crossing the line into antisemitism, will quickly find themselves unemployed – and probably also unemployable.

    This does matter. Jewish over-representation in the media translates into a strong tendency to support mass immigration, irrespective of the migrants’ likely contributions to their new country. It translates into fighting wars that benefit the state of Israel, but not the United States. Jewish over-representation in the media need not be a problem as long as other voices can still be heard. When they are silenced as if they are heretics, then we do have a problem that we need to talk about.

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  33. fnn says:

    But MacDonald seems to be right that Jews were disproportionately involved in radical leftist political movements in the twentieth century, and in the US Jews tend to vote Democrat. We think this can be explained by the high average IQ of Jews in combination with their being a persecuted minority, which has tended to push them toward political views that emphasize social toleration and the free movement of people. In other words, MacDonald reverses the correct order of causation: rather than Jews inviting persecution by advocating cosmopolitan policies that thwart the interests of Europeans, Jews advocated cosmopolitanism as a predictable response to persecution.

    There was never much persecution of Jews in the US. To put it another way, Jews experienced far less persecution in the US than the Irish or the Italians-and those latter two groups were not subjected to much persecution. Ask yourself if it seems odd that the *capital* of anti-semitism in 20th Century America was Minnesota (!), as in “Minnesota nice”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Minneapolis#Politics,_corruption,_anti-Semitism_and_social_change

    Minneapolis was known for anti-Semitism beginning in the 1880s and through the 1950s.[29] The city was described as “the capital of anti-Semitism in the United States” in 1946 by Carey McWilliams[30] and in 1959 by Gunther Plaut.[31] At that time the city’s Jews were excluded from membership in many organizations, faced employment discrimination, and were considered unwelcome residents in some neighborhoods.[32] Jews in Minneapolis were also not allowed to buy homes in certain neighborhoods of Minneapolis.[33]

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  34. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Jews: Don’t support the ethno-nationalism for your host out of anticipation of reciprocity. Do it because we saved you from the Nazis, and you feel grateful and when you go to a WWII cemetary and see a sea of crosses. Better yet, do it because it’s only right and fair. Do it out of reciprocity to your host who supports your Zionist cause. Do it because you want to prove you’re not a hypocrite, which is what Cofnas’ contention with MacDonald is after all.

    Jews, overwhelmingly, eagerly support Jewish Zionism. Do they also so eagerly support White Zionism? Or do they fight it tooth and nail? They fight it tooth and nail. That’s the hypocrisy. Want to prove us wrong? Then recruit your Jewish friends who live in the diaspora to support ethno-nationalism for their hosts with the same vigor and financial degree that they support it for their own far flung Israel. Will they do this? No. Which disproves Cofnas’ point.

    Want to disprove the claims of dual loyalty, (really, sole loyalty to Israel, if we’re honest)? Then take out the knife you’ve jammed in your host nation’s back after She rescued you from the Cossacks in the shtetl, and defend her with it.

    Jews: No, we won’t support you, but keep the welfare transfer payments from middle class American taxpayers to Israel coming. How else could we afford West Bank settlement construction and the American weapons we use to defend them from the people on whose land we built them?

    * * *

    Cofnas, paraphrased: “Anyone who criticizes Israel is anti-Israel, and anyone who criticizes Jews, including Jews themselves, is an anti-Semite. Marx, as Jew, was an anti-Semite because he said the Jewish God was money. Hannah Arendt and Noam Chomsky told some inconvenient truths about Israel, so they’re ‘anti-Israel.’ What could be more anti-Semitic than describing Eichmann as a kinda average, banal guy and not an evil mastermind? Outrageous.”

    If that’s your premise, how can any reasonable person take anything else you say seriously?

    * * *

    Jews control most of Sweden’s media, despite their small numbers. Most notably, Bonnier. It’s not the percentage of the population that’s Jewish that matters, it’s how many of its institutions they control, most notably, the media. That’s not an “ad hoc” explanation, but common sense.

    “How is it that your royal family is as powerful as my royal family, when my royal family has twice as many members? Incon-theivable!”

    And Germans are brainwashed and guilted by WWII and Holocaust propaganda, obviously.

    Finally, MacDonald never contended that’s it’s 100% the Jews’ fault, he’s talked extensively about Northern European people’s propensity for individualism and universalism and how this makes them vulnerable to exploitation by clannish out-groups like Jews. Anglo-Saxons have a sense of playing fair, cricket, *1* as General George Patton might say, which Jews, owing to their year in the ghetto, tribalism and Ashkepathy, tend to lack.

    *1* “I am frankly opposed to this war criminal stuff. It is not cricket and is Semitic. I am also opposed to sending PW’s to work as slaves in foreign lands where many will be starved to death” *2.3* – The Patton Papers, 1940–1945

    *2* “All that sort of writing is done by Jews to get revenge. Actually the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. It’s a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans.”

    *3* Of Russian occupation of Berlin: “It’s said that for the first week after they took it, all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped.”

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  36. snorlax says:
    @hyperbola

    What “liberal” jews?

    Er, the ones you link to in your comment, for starters?

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  37. Tyrion 2 says:

    Radical feminists – if you want to understand how sane people see you just examine how you see KMac acolytes who think the West has been under the Jewish yoke as part of a milennia-old conspiracy.

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  38. FKA Max says: • Website

    According to Cofnas Mr. Unz’s research is “wrong” as well:

    Nathan Cofnas @nathancofnas
    Replying to @westland_will @jordanbpeterson

    The study you’re citing (by Unz) is wrong. It overestimated the percentage of Jews among Harvard students and underestimated the percentage of Jews among high-achieving applicants. See [he cites Andrew Gelman]

    Interestingly, according to the following survey, 50% of Jewish students in the UK attend only 8 universities, which are all part of the prestigious Russell Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Group

    Half of Jewish students attended just eight out of 113 higher education institutions (Universities of Birmingham, Cambridge, Leeds, Manchester, Nottingham, Oxford, Kings College London, and University College London), against 9% of the national student body

    http://www.brin.ac.uk/2011/national-jewish-student-survey-2011/

    Home and away: Jewish journeys towards independence
    Key findings from the 2011 National Jewish Student Survey

    http://www.jpr.org.uk/documents/Key%20findings%20from%20the%202011%20National%20Jewish%20Student%20Survey.pdf

    Indeed, 50% of the sample attended just eight universities:
    The University of Leeds (N=86); The University
    of Birmingham (N=81); The University
    of Nottingham (N=62); The University
    of Manchester (N=58); The University of
    Cambridge (N=56); UCL (University College
    London) (N=43); The University of Oxford
    (N=41); and King’s College London (N=28). By
    contrast, these eight institutions accounted for
    9.3% of the national student population
    – p. 24

    The focus on quality is reflected in the fact that
    NJSS respondents are almost four times as likely
    to attend Britain’s elite universities as students in
    general. Almost 17% of NJSS respondents attend
    institutions that have been consistently ranked
    in the top five since 2008/09, and almost 29%
    attend those consistently ranked in the top ten
    over the same period.
    – p. 25

    Alex Davis: British Jews are sticking together at university, but is anti-Israel sentiment to blame?

    Speak to any number of Jewish students and you’ll find few unfamiliar with the “Jewniversities”. A well versed term within the Jewish community, the Jewniversities, or “Jewnis” for short, are those with the largest percentages of Jewish students.

    Leading the way are Birmingham, Leeds, Nottingham, Manchester, Oxford and Cambridge: in fact, the Union of Jewish Students (UJS) estimates that 61 per cent of UK Jewish students attended just these six universities in 2014. The question is, why?

    Given last month’s anti-Semitism controversy at the Oxford University Labour Club (OULC), which culminated in the club’s chairman claiming “a large proportion of both OULC and the student left in Oxford more generally have some kind of problem with Jews”, one might think the “oldest hatred”, as John Mann the chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group Against Antisemitism recently labelled it, is to blame.

    Curiously, though, anti-Semitism doesn’t seem to be the deciding factor. Despite recent claims by the Jewish Human Rights Watch that Jewish students will turn their backs on leading universities in reaction to growing campus antisemitism, other organisations aren’t convinced.

    According to the Community Security Trust, a charity working to protect British Jewry, “most Jewish students do not encounter anti-Semitism during their time at university”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/student-life/12185814/Alex-Davis-British-Jews-are-sticking-together-at-university-but-is-anti-semitism-to-blame.html

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  39. Tyrion 2 says:

    Half of Jewish students attended just eight out of 113 higher education institutions (Universities of Birmingham, Cambridge, Leeds, Manchester, Nottingham, Oxford, Kings College London, and University College London

    Oxford and Cambridge are undoubtedly the best two universities. The six others listed here are pretty much equal. Honestly, they are unis for those who didn’t get into Oxford or Cambridge. They are silver medals in a race that has a fair whack of chance in it.

    What makes these 6 stand out from the other silver medals seems to be that they’re in proper cities with lots of cool stuff to do. Unlike Durham, St Andrews, Warwick and others.

    Bristol and Edinburgh are notable by their absence but I’ve met plenty of Jews who went to both so it is probably an artifact of the weird statistic of 50% went to 8 universities rather than anything interesting. Perhaps there is some influencing factor the more religious…

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  40. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    Jews control most of Sweden’s media, despite their small numbers. Most notably, Bonnier.

    No, Jews don’t. The Bonnier family are not Jewish, though they have Jewish ancestry – about 25%. Indeed, the second biggest ownership stake is held by an actual Bishop.

    They also control 25% of newspapers, which is very far from a majority. Those newspapers also don’t show a bias conpared to the 75% controlled by those with no Jewish ancestry.

    So the people who control a quarter of newspapers are a quarter Jewish in ancestry. Furthermore? Almost none of the journalists are Jewish…you know, the content creators. Indeed, the group is profitable and is run like a business unlike the Washington Post, for example. Or even Unz.com.

    Why is that whenever I actually look up these mad conspiratorial claims it only takes me 5 minutes to prove that they are total nonsense? And yet they get repeated by morons constantly to each other in an echo chamber for the seriously deluded.

    And please don’t mention BLS again. She is a nobody. Her institution’s big boast was that 200 students had attended its courses in its first 10 years. That’s embarrassingly small, and those courses were single day/afternoon courses on obscure religious topics. They don’t even seem to have an office so they must be run from home with occasional rented out conference space. They are basically a pretentious book club that talks about Jewish culture.

    Oh, and she said something stupid and self-aggrandising once. How embarassing that half of your ideology is based on a one off throwaway comment by a nice white cat lady?

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  41. For many on the alt-right, every grievance is, at root, about Jews.

    The very first sentence of the article is a straw man.

    Kevin McDonald’s theory is likely an overreach, and it is too abstract to influence many people’s opinions – it is another straw man.

    I understand that racial politics in the USA is a toxic subject, and Jewish-Gentile relations are no exception. However, if the authors are serious about engaging with the alt-right, they need to consider a wider range of opinions than those of Kevin McDonald and Andrew Anglin.

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  42. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Tyrion 2,

    Of the 4 largest extant morning newspapers, 2 are owned by the Jewish Bonnier family*, 1 by Stampen (Peter Hjorne and Family, also Jewish**), and 1, schibsted, which lists its largest shareholder as “foreign banks.”

    That means, at least 3/4 of the largest morning newspapers are Jewish owned (excluding schibsted). Of the 4 largest “Evening Newspapers” listed, “Aftonbladet, Expressen, GT, Kvallsposten” 3 are owned by Bonnier, and 1 by “Schibsted.” Again, I count (at least) 3/4 Jewish owned evening newspapers. (3/4 largest evening papers are owned by one (Jewish) family, Bonnier)

    These were the category of papers it was easiest to find data on, presumably because they’re the largest and most influential, and they tend to set the agenda on national issues, like immigration, that smaller papers derive their narrative from (like, the NYTimes in the US), and 75% of them are owned by Jewish families.

    The Founder of the Bonnier empire was Gutkind Hirschel a Jew who changed his name to Gerhard Bonnier. Yes, a prominent living member of the family converted to Catholicism and became a Bishop. That means almost nothing to me. Yes, the family has intermarried with Gentiles, that also means little to me.

    The Jewish Bonnier and Hjorne families also own a very large number of other media***, newspapers and television, throughout Sweden and the rest of northern Europe. (Hjorne’s Stampen owns 23 Swedish newspapers) There are only 90 newspapers in Sweden.

    Also, why don’t you see Daniel Hoglund’s analysis. He’s apparently done more work on it than I have. I only glanced at it, but it looks to corroborate everything I’ve written.

    By the way, do Jewish families own 75% of Sweden’s largest newspapers (despite being less than 0.5%) of the Swedish population, because Jews are 75% of the highest IQ people in Sweden?

    * Dagens Nyheter and Sydsvenska Dagbladet

    ** I see many claims on the internet that Hjorne is Jewish, and nowhere is this claim contested, so I take it to probably be true.

    *** [Bonnier Group] is a Swedish media group of 175 companies operating in 15 countries. It is controlled by the Bonnier family

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  43. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Correction: Åke Bonnier is a bishop in the Church of Sweden. I erroneously said Catholic.

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  44. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Tyrion 2: Why don’t you find evidence to prove/disprove the claim that Peter Hjorne is Jewish. Everything I’ve read says he is, but I want to make sure I have it right.

    (Even if he weren’t 5/8 Major newspapers would still by owned by the Jewish Bonnier family, alone.)

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  45. FKA Max says: • Website

    Professor Kevin MacDonald joins the show to discuss Nathan Cofnas’s recent paper, ‘Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy: A Critical Analysis of Kevin MacDonald’s Theory’, which is the first ever academic attempt to refute Professor MacDonald’s theory as presented in his 1998 book, The Culture of Critique. The first 45 minutes are in English; after the music break we wrap it up in Swedish.https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiomenefrego/mnf-avsnitt-22

    Kevin MacDonald
    ‏@TOOEdit

    A discussion about the @nathancofnas critique of CofC

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  46. Dan Hayes says:
    @hyperbola

    hyperbola:

    As far as I know, neither Bob Mercer nor any of his family are Jewish.

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  47. Thomm says:

    The reason White Trashionalists hate Jews is because the White Trashionalists are Wiggers. By that, I mean they blame another group for holding them down. As blacks blame whites, White Trashionalists blame Jews (even though Jews are very small in number).

    WN wiggers are just another victimology identity group. Hence, it attracts only the least talented.

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  48. @Outrage Beyond

    Yes.

    Chomsky is a very clever controlled opposition.

    A master deceitful linguist who was linked to the RAND Corporation.

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  49. utu says:
    @Thomm

    Don’t you guys have your own problems in India?

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  50. utu says:
    @Dan Hayes

    His middle name is Leroy so you might be right.

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  51. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Just a quick speed-read reveals gaps in argumentation: Freemasonry in French Rev, no mention of Christianity, etc.

    But the purpose of the article is another. My bet –just from the title– is it’ll trigger the alt-right warriors to 650 plus comments. Anyone care to advance another number?

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  52. “Oy vey. We’re eternally persecuted and you deserve everything we’ve done to you (that I am unable to come up with a rationalization for) as a result.”

    Jews should form a US Department of Goyim Disarmament with only jews on the force. Get your genocide on Shlomo. The time for talking is over.

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  53. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon

    666

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  54. Adolphus says:

    The Jew cries out in pain as it strikes you with its muh 6 gorillion cudgel

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  55. WHAT says:
    @Anon

    Nah, not even 300. Way too much “refutation” in name only already in the net to elicit a proper reaction.

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  56. Plundering der Iudengaffen … 1614

    Nothing unique about that. Foreign minority religions were distrusted and persecuted the world over.

    In Japan in that same year, 1614 Christianity was banned, priests were expelled and Christians had to convert or die.

    Christians in Kyushu: A History

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  57. Chill says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Some uneducated person always has to assert that “They aren’t Jewish, because they aren’t religiously Jewish.”

    Your argument is a literal meme. It has been THOROUGHLY debunked.

    “Jewish” is an ethnic category in addition to a religious one. For instance, I am religiously “Jewish”, but have zero Jewish ancestry. Nearly every ethnically Jewish person sees “Jewishness” as far more an ethnic distinction than a religious one, which is why atheist Jews have ethnic dinner clubs and participate in a variety of Jewish advocacy organizations. It’s why I am discriminated against on an ethnic basis, with Talmuddists telling me I can’t be Jewish or interpret the Torah (literally, because of my ethnicity).

    Get your head out of the sand and quit repeating fallacies that I suspect you know to be fallacious.

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  58. Wally says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    Good try, but in the vast majority of ‘Jew out marriages’ the gentile converts.

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  59. Wally says:
    @James N. Kennett

    said:
    “Anybody who argues on the basis of the Holocaust … ”

    Anyone who does is arguing about an irrational, fanatical religion, not a historical fact.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  60. Wally says:
    @mark green

    Spot on as usual, Mark.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  61. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Society, in one form or another, possesses natural castes. Anglo-Saxon society used to have a priestly Brahmin caste. The problem is, 20th century Anglo-Saxons became atheists and lost their ability to believe in the Christian religion. But this does not mean that human beings lose the psychological urge to be guided in moral matters, because it is a very powerful urge. Into this vacuum has flowed Jewish thinking. Jews are our new Brahmins, and they preach incessantly from their media and university pulpits. Their tendency to do this is related to the fact that there are an awful lot of Jews out there who are descended one way or another from rabbis when you look at their genetic history.

    The most devoted of their followers are the Anglo Saxons who are descended from the Puritans of the 1600s. The latter has a very powerful natural dose of moral fanaticism that is genetic in its basis. There’s a reason why New England is fanatically liberal in comparison to most of the rest of the United States. To a fanatic, their priestly caste cannot be wrong.

    Between Jewish Brahmins and Anglo-Saxons descended from the Puritans, we have a case of folie a deux. Two sets of insanity interacting with each other and descending into one Grand Madness.

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  62. I suppose that present jewry can only be understood if we go back 2000 years.
    The Roman empire tried to destroy the powerful jewry, not for nothing twice big armies were sent to Palestine.
    If indeed Paulus was a secret agent of the Roman emperor, trying to destroy jewry by establishing an alternative religion, w’ll never know.
    In any case, jewry became an insignificant, hated, minority until in the 19th century in Europe they got equal rights.

    For the pope the jews were a nuisance, they made clear that he was not almighty, rulers all over Europe used, misused, jews for their purposes, jews were not under the pope’s jurisdiction.
    This use, or misuse, to a large extent was with taxes, jews were excluded from many professions, could not own land or houses, but could be used for financial purposes.
    So indeed, the jewish identity ‘of perpetual innocent victims’, perpetual, that is during say the last 2000 years, is not complete nonsense.

    If the jews were implicated in murdering the Roman emperor before the two Roman wars on jews, the murder was after the emperor had abolished jewish prerogatives in Rome, it is asserted.
    Anyhow, especially in Germany after the 1970 unification banking etc became important, jews grabbed the opportunity.
    Even non jewish German bankers were seen as jews.
    In my opinion, and that of the Israeli historian Katz, rich jews in Germany after 1870 behaved stupidly.
    Having risen from a poor more or less despised minority to persons of wealth and influence, Bleichröder, the Rothschilds, they began showing their wealth.
    This was resented.

    On top of that, learning was of great esteem in jewish society, that is, religious learning, atheistic jews began to dominate intellectual professions and culture.
    Germany had never more than say three percent jews, yet in some professions, lawyers, doctors, university professors, judged, in cities sometimes half of them were jews.
    This was also the case in politics, the Weimar Republic war to a large extent run by jews.
    Just imagine a comparable situation in the USA with respect to blacks.

    Then there was the German hyperinflation of the mid twenties, caused by the French and Belgian occupation.
    Goebbels, at the time working for a bank, his first job, saw to his great disgust that those who understood what was going on made huge profits, while ordinary Germans sank deeper and deeper into poverty.

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  63. @the Supreme Gentleman

    Hasidic Jews have a very high birth-rate, but only a modest retention rate. So new “secular” Jewish foot-soldiers are added as they are lost when taking goy trophy wives. Israel is being overrun with ultra-orthodox who behave almost exactly like Arab Muslims.

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  64. Randal says:

    Interesting to read the other side of the argument. Both sides seem to make good points and also to make errors.

    But I can only get harassed by the police, and potentially prosecuted and even locked up, for backing one of the two sides. That tells me straight away which one is the problem.

    I’ll be less concerned about excessive jewish influence when there aren’t massively funded pernicious censorship and harassment advocacy jewish groups like the AIPAC and CAA trying to get people saying things they don’t like locked up.

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  65. @Jason Liu

    I’ll add # 4 and #5:

    #4. Jews are without a doubt the major group supporting immigration, “inclusiveness,” tolerance etc. “Immigration” since 1965 means one thing only: the inundation of all white countries by nonwhites, overwhelmingly dumber, poorer, with either greater criminal tendencies or extreme ethnocentrism (e.g. Chinese, Mexican) that’s destructive of the host society’s social capital. But, in Europe, and increasingly in the U.S., “immigration” also means “Muslim immigration.” Muslim immigration means bringing anti-Jewish prejudice, hatred and violence where there was little before. Show me, someone, how furthering the immigration and integration of Muslims in the West supports a Jewish “evolutionary strategy.”

    #5. I like to loiter sometimes in the entrance lobbies of churches, and for research purposes, have done that in synagogues as well. The content of what “libtard” leaflets, causes, notices evident there hardly differs from church to synagogue, items of religious tradition excepted. Even when one examines the horrific sabotage-by-”refugees,” there is one Jewish org, HIAS, some five Protestant ones and the Catholic church.

    The latter, according to a current article at Crisis magazine, makes $90 million annually on refugee “resettlement” and it gathers further riches and millions of new faithful, i.e. “Hispanics” in its pro-”immigrant” activities, for both the legal and the illegal kind. Since it is without a doubt an evolutionary strategy, and Chinese diasporas also have one, even if MacD’s theory is valid, why ascribe it solely to the Jews?

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  66. If one wonders how Jews represent a disproportionate amount of influence relevant to their numbers, look no further than the Sicilians and the Mafia. Same principles using bloodlines and favoritism.

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  67. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    ** I see many claims on the internet that Hjorne is Jewish, and nowhere is this claim contested, so I take it to probably be true.

    Oh, good. Well he’s not. I suggest you adopt a better standard for believing extraordinary claims.

    The only proof that seems ever to have been offered is that he once said something along the lines that he thinks anti-Semitism is bad.

    Do you assume that anybody who at any point says that they don’t hate Jews is therefore actually Jewish?

    Yes, a prominent living member of the family converted to Catholicism and became a Bishop. That means almost nothing to me. Yes, the family has intermarried with Gentiles, that also means little to me.

    No, all living members are Christian. 75% of their ancestry is not Jewish, bar the youngest for whom only 12.5% is.

    It is not that the family intermarried with Gentiles, it is very much that the Gentiles intermarried with one Jew. They wouldn’t even be classified as Jewish under the Nuremberg laws.

    That means, at least 3/4 of the largest morning newspapers are Jewish owned (excluding schibsted).

    No, it is a quarter of newspapers that are owned by one family that have a Jewish ancestor but don’t practice Judaism. Stop cherrypicking and misrepresenting facts.

    By the way, do Jewish families own 75% of Sweden’s largest newspapers (despite being less than 0.5%) of the Swedish population, because Jews are 75% of the highest IQ people in Sweden

    I don’t see anything extraordinary in the fact that one media family in Sweden had one Jewish ancestor and are committed Christians.

    Nor do I see that one family, with one Jewish ancestor, as pushing an extraordinarily progressive agenda. They seem to fit the crazy Swedish norm.

    Whereas in Britain we had one of our major national newspapers owned by an actual Jew. He sadly sold it to a much larger group very recently. Nonetheless, it is certainly the most right-wing major newspaper in the country.

    Here’s some non-Jewish idiot lambasting it as racist for talking about immigration.

    https://www.change.org/p/ipso-investigate-the-daily-express-racist-headlines-which-incite-hate-crimes-across-the-uk/u/17402246

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  68. Heros says:
    @mark green

    Great comment. I would just add that in relation to Jewish deception, they are taught duplicity from a very young age. They demand all the exact same rights as white gentiles, of which they often claim a certain amount of race membership, then they demand special jewish privilege while denying any racial commonality with “whites”.

    This duplicity boils over into the comments section here at Unz, where numerous hasbara and hasbara style commenters lurk. The first comment is a good example. These people are of high probability jews or shabboz themselves, because very few honest gentiles will expend the effort to try to suppress open comment the way these people do. They hide behind goyish anonymity, yet they have a hidden agenda.
    The alt-right is wearing their agenda openly pinned on their arms. It is honesty against lies.

    It is this jewish dupliciousness that bleeds through into IQ scores. A liar has to be clever to remember all the lies and to who they told them to. As long as they live. And it is genetic. They don’t bear the burden of generations of persecution, they bear the burden of generations of lies.

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  69. helena says:

    What Jews get wrong about the Alt-right.

    Is that sentence any more or less racial than the title of the article?

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  70. mcohen says:

    I am surprised that no one has mentioned that jewish intelligence is directly linked to judaism and especially jewish law and customs.
    Spend some time reading the discussions on jewish law and you will understand.

    Fact is white americans feel threatened by the growing latino populations.now they want to build a wall to keep them out.

    In 1979,in capetown, south africa, a coloured friend said to me…..the brown people are the nation of the future.
    To those white americans who oppose this idea i say to you.for sending cruz to kill those kids on the February the 14th 2018.a crow, a bird of the earth will strike California and destroy its towers of babel.

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  71. Amasius says:

    Joyce and MacDonald will get around to refuting this crap soon, but William Pierce already did years ago:

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  72. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Chill

    That was but a fraction of my point. I’m swiftly coming to the conclusion that most anti-Semites here are either irredeemably thick or don’t even really believe their own nonsense. In the latter case, what is its purpose? A persuasion technique? Because if so, don’t, it does the opposite.

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  73. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Mr. Frosty

    Hasidic Jews have a very high birth-rate, but only a modest retention rate

    As far as I can tell, the their retention rate is close to 100%. What do you mean by modest and what is your source?

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  74. Tyrion 2 says:
    @helena

    What Jews get wrong about the Alt-right.

    Is that sentence any more or less racial than the title of the article?

    More, much more. In that you’re ascribing a fairly uniform opinion to an ethno-religious group rather than ascribing a fairly uniform opinion to a fairly uniform opinion.

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  75. @James N. Kennett

    This does matter. Jewish over-representation in the media translates into a strong tendency to support mass immigration, irrespective of the migrants’ likely contributions to their new country. It translates into fighting wars that benefit the state of Israel, but not the United States. Jewish over-representation in the media need not be a problem as long as other voices can still be heard. When they are silenced as if they are heretics, then we do have a problem that we need to talk about.

    This may well be the case with US, but not with other Western countries. Jews are not very visible or dominant in French, British, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, Irish,… media, but you got even more lunatic policy with regard to immigration.

    It’s the result of lefty-liberal stage in d(evolution) of European/white societies, not a consequence of some sinister conspiracy.

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  76. Meimou says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    How can this possibly be squared with an account of Jewish behavior secretly being Jews aggressively promoting their interests as an ethnic group?

    1. Their behavior isn’t necessarily conscious.

    2. Secretly?

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  77. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Randal, you seem to be a Kafka-esque figure in your own personal story of bureaucratic persecution for little more than vocalising a few misguided opinions. Or that is how you seem to want to come across, minus the misguided bit of course!

    Tell me, how do I find out the details of your case so that I might gain a better understanding/make a few practical suggestions?

    I fully understand if you don’t want your personal life associated with your online account and therefore making this impossible; but anyone who doesn’t imagine an unbroken chain of Jewish perfidy back through the Roman Empire falls within what I actively tolerate. I very much would not want you persecuted by some mediocre jobsworth in my name.

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  78. Jake says:

    “For many on the alt-right, every grievance is, at root, about Jews.”

    Depending on the definition of ‘many,’ that is a true statement, though at least 99 out of 100 Jews will exaggerate its meaning. And at least 90 of the 99 will almost ignore the real threats to Jews from Moslems and the deep and wide dislike for Jews held by blacks and almost all East Asians in order to bash whites over and over.

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  79. I stopped reading before the first paragraph was finished. What absolute and complete crap.

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  80. @Outrage Beyond

    Yes. This claim about Chomsky indicates the authors are either completely detached from reality, or simply dishonest. Chomsky goes out of his way to avoid criticism of Israel, rendering his supposed anti war/anti-imperialist position impotent.

    BTW, they also seem unaware that the Goldstein character in 1984 is an obvious reference to Trotsky (Bronstein).

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  81. iffen says:
    @Randal

    But I can only get harassed by the police, and potentially prosecuted and even locked up, for backing one of the two sides. That tells me straight away which one is the problem.

    Maybe it just means you are backing the wrong side.

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  82. Borsalino says:

    “Prohibited from entering many blue-collar occupations like farming, Jews turned to finance, particularly money lending, to survive.”

    Solzhenitsyn’s book “200 Years Together” would strongly argue against this, at least in Russia in the 1800s. His book offers exhaustive detail pertaining to a half-century effort by Russian authorities to introduce Jews to agriculture by providing them with free land, housing, work implements, tax subsidies and some allowances against the mandatory military conscription. The thought was both to assimilate Jews and to prevent them from engaging in activities (usury, manufacturing and selling vodka) that were seen to exploit the Russian peasantry. The experiment was a dismal failure. Many Jews leased their lands out for exorbitant prices then returned to the urban areas to pursue commerce and money-lending.

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  83. @Lot

    Yawn.

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  84. …the conspiratorial account of Jewish prominence has taken on a new, more meretricious form in the work of…

    You wanna know why there’s anti-Semitism? Smart-ass comments like that help a lot. So called “Jews” seem to pounce on every opportunity to scurrilously attack anyone they perceive as an “enemy,” and for some reason, they seem to view nearly everyone as an enemy, even themselves (read Josephus for examples). Meretricious, my tusch.

    To understand the alt-right’s anti-Semitism, we must understand MacDonald’s ideas…

    To understand anti-Semitism in general, try understanding this,

    “Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us.” Explaining why God allowed non-Jews long lives, he added: “Imagine that your donkey would die, you’d lose your income. [The donkey] is your servant. … That’s why he [the gentile] gets a long life, to work well for the Jew.”

    This summer, Yosef Elitzur and Yitzhak Shapira, who head an influential seminary in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, published The King’s Torah, a 230-page guide to how Jews should treat non-Jews.
    The two rabbis concluded that Jews were obligated to kill anyone who posed a danger, immediate or potential, to the Jewish people, and implied that all Palestinians were to be considered a threat. On these grounds, the pair justified killing Palestinian civilians and even their babies.
    Israel’s Racist Rabbis, By Jonathan Cook
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/print

    Acting like arrogant, vicious, dominating assholes doesn’t endear anyone to anyone. You’d think the “high IQ” bunch would know that.

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  85. @Tyrion 2

    Ever heard of the Gaysott Law?

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  86. Randal says:

    My own personal story is mentioned at some length in my old comments here. Nothing “Kafka-esque” or even particularly dramatic about it. It amounted to threats only, but credible ones. At my age and condition I’m not really vulnerable to the kind of economic and social harassment that groups like the CAA use to silence people saying things they don’t like.

    But what enables the threats to be made credibly, and my would-be harasser to have a meeting with an Assistant Chief Constable to pour his opinions about my personal criminality into the man’s ear and be received with sympathy and supposedly by agreement that I should indeed be prosecuted, if only the CPS could be persuaded to move more quickly on cases like mine, is the whole structure of speechcrime laws and advocacy groups such as the CAA, with their privileged connections, pushing for their more aggressive implementation.

    My case is in no need of intervention. The CAA connected jewish troll in question only managed to get me banned from a few comment boards (the Spectator Blogs and The National Interest, iirc). What needs confronting are all the groups pushing for ever wider implementation of the political correctness speechcrime laws. Blacks should be opposing the antiracist groups doing this, muslims the pro-immigration groups pushing crackdowns on islamophobia, and jews should be fighting groups like the CAA. That’s where your efforts would be best directed – against those pushing censorship in your name.

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  87. @Bardon Kaldian

    AIPAC does have offices in Brussels and Paris.
    Hungary tries to rid itself of Soros, he phones Juncker, speaks Juncker and Tusk the next day, the day thereafter Timmermans is sent to intimidate the Hungarian government.

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  88. Randal says:
    @iffen

    In your “might makes right” world, perhaps.

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  89. @Anon

    But the purpose of the article is another. My bet –just from the title– is it’ll trigger the alt-right warriors to 650 plus comments.

    No doubt. Stirring the pot with obviously sadistic glee is typical behavior.

    One wonders why they’re not doing something useful such as soliciting shekels for yet another holocaust monument or museum.

    Could some folks be justifiably tired of all the whining and victimhood? Jews may think they’re special, but only fools agree.

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  90. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    With respect to out marriage: if the female Jew marries a gentile her children are considered 100 percent Jewish. It is a clever scheme to cherry pick and steal superior physical and aesthetic genetics.

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  91. wayfarer says:
    @mark green

    “The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them.”Ernest Hemingway

    Like they say, “the truth fuckin’ hurts.”

    Sadly though, it may be too little, too late.

    As we’re now all passengers, riding on a slow motion Zionist train wreck, to hell.

    Thanks, for all of your “most excellent” exposés.

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  92. @Borsalino

    Solsjenytsyn indeed describes this.
    Nevertheless, before 1800, the year in which the majority of world’s jewry came to live in tsarist Russia, the result of a Polish division, jews were excluded from many occupations.
    Not all jews turned to finance, so for example many were butchers.
    And finance, one must not overrate it.
    There was tax farming, what made jews hated.
    A jew in Vienna did lend money to the Habsburgs, do not remember when, at an interest rate of fifty percent per year.
    Historians condemn this as usury, but when one knows that the Habsburgs had the nasty habit of never paying, or organising a small pogrom in which the lender died, the rate becomes more acceptable.

    Bleichröder was a money exchanger, necessary in Germany before 1870, where every small state had issued its own money.
    Rothschild began in helping a count or so with his collection of coins.
    Both made use of the German 1871 unification, with great success.

    The Fuggers of Augsburg were not jews, as far as I know, nor were medieval Italian and French bankers.
    Dutch finance from the 17th century on had nothing to do with jews.

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  93. Have we gots it wrong then that jisrael was required to be made undead in 1948 …. and that WW2 , contrived solely for the benefit of 1948 , exists in the shape of a Temple Menorah. ?
    If Abraham was born 1948 years after Adam, is 1948 proof of Prophecy, or pre-meditation ?

    The entire historical narrative reeks of a leaky colostomy bag filled full with kosher contrivances.

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  94. tjm says:
    @mark green

    Great retort to a rather lengthy article that told me nothing. Your comment would serve this site far better than the one they posted.

    IQ is irrelevant if the respect and consideration of the host societies are not considered. I would argue IQ only be considered if that IQ is accompanied by wisdom, and empathy, which are both sorely lacking in the Jews.

    Jewish hypocrisy is rife in Jewish actions, many of which you stated.

    They corned the market on money, and have worked tirelessly to make the world all about money. The banks and the media, entertainment, are theirs, and thus it truly is game over. They can make Zionist Trump out to be a “American firster” even as he stabs up again and again in the back. Just as they painted Obama as “Constitutional scholar, and a peace President”.

    I believe they are keeping America above water only long enough to draw in enough Latinos to destroy US. Like the healthcare crisis (Hospitals providing healthcare to millions of illegals who do not pay for it) and pre-K education (day care for illegals who need schools to feed and care for their millions of offspring) all issues closely tied to mass immigration. The point is, the system is being used as an instrument of our demographic demise.

    They use the media to tell us we can’t even discuss the problem…

    One could not over state the harm the Zionist Jews have done, and are doing to this country, in every sphear of influence.

    Great post TY…

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  95. In their criticism of MacDonald, the authors rely heavily on the fact that some gentiles have historically held controversial positions similar to Jews. Had MacDonald claimed that only Jews were behind some of the movements cited by the authors, their criticism might have merit. But that’s not the case, as a search of the word “alliance” alone in a downloaded PDF of MacDonald’s “Critique” book shows.

    http://www.nationalists.org/pdf/culture-of-critique-kevin-macdonald-kindle-edition-2013.pdf

    Example references: “alliances with non-Jews whose perceived interests dovetail with theirs.”
    “…Slezkine is correct that Jews were not the only revolutionaries, but his point only underscores the importance of philosemitism and other alliances Jews typically must make in Diaspora situations in order to advance their perceived interests.”

    MacDonald’s point in reference to the movements cited was not that Jews were alone but that they were highly influential and that a common thread in pursuit of that influence was a perceived ethnic/collective interest that often conflicted with perceived ethnic interests of many gentiles.

    In their discussion of cause and effect, the authors assume that the Jewish embrace of cosmopolitanism, e.g. opposition to the tribal bonds of gentile majorities, was caused by the latter’s persecution of them. This is undoubtedly a factor. But some of the historical gentile opposition to Jews similarly stemmed from the latter’s own tribal rejection of them. There’s nothing unusual about such in-group/out-group mistrust. But the ancient religious “chosen people” element exacerbated the estrangement probably as much as the religious belief among so many Christians that Jews bore responsibility for killing Christ.

    Don’t blame Mac Donald for discussing these conflicting interests and perceptions.

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  96. nickels says:

    MacDonald certainly describes many of the Jewish attacks on gentile society with accuracy and detail, but his basic premise is implausable for many reasons.
    Firstly, evolution is an absurd theory and did not, nor could have, ever happened. Structure does not increase in the universe, it decreases. Natural selection can never create.
    Secondly, Jews are genetic Turks and Europeans, which means any notion of high IQ or evolutionary strategy are pure fiction.
    Third, MacDonald ignores the fact that the Jews are ever divided and fighting against themselves with the same venemous hatred they display to the gentile.

    The defining attribute of Jews is the rejection of Christ, Christianity and the dedication to revolution, i.e., the anti-logos. Those Jews who followed Christ became Christians and lost their Jewish identity. The ‘Jews’ who were left, were the followers of revolutionary Barrabus.
    Many of the gentiles the article mentions were influenced by movements where Jews played a major part. As Jonathan Israel shows, the Enlightenment was in large part a Jewish intellectual movement to attack Christianity and replace it with Pagan/Kabbalistic Mysticism, which largely succeeded. As Yuri Slozhene demonstrates, modernity is, in fact, just Jewish culture.
    I largely agree that, as our entire Jewish culture of modernity is the source of the world’s evil and the woes of the West, that the absence of Jews would go a long way to improving our lot. But that is purely academic.
    It is my personal belief that God desires the Jews to be dispersed through the world so that those who stray from his truth will be devoured and suffer, so that they might see their evil and turn from it. In the same way, perhaps the Jews will see their own vainglorious and murderous natures and turn back to the Logos.

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  97. lavoisier says:
    @Otto_

    Good points.

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  98. @jilles dykstra

    AIPAC does have offices in Brussels and Paris.

    So what? What’s your logic? That mere existence of a lobby or interest group in a country determines its, in this case, immigration policy?

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  99. Z-man says:

    Borsalino and jilles dykstra, good posts! Putin Da!!

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  100. @Anonymous

    This is not a “clever scheme”, just a historical relic. Since more Jewish males outmarry, in comparison to Jewish females (although the gap is not too wide)- and children of Jewish male/Gentile female combination are, if she does not convert, not considered to be Jewish- how can this be considered “clever”? If the net result is ethnic “loss” to this group?

    And who says that Jewish females who outmarry pick up “superior” genetic & aesthetic traits? For instance, Lauren Bacall, who married Humphrey Bogart was certainly not married to some “Aryan Apollo”.

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    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Agreed.

    What a waste of time this Lot guy is.

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  102. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    After looking it up…

    But France is a country where a famous writer was taken to court merely for calling Islam “the stupidest religion”.

    That is the context you choose to ignore in order to make it seem that Jews get special treatment as Jews rather than somewhat special treatment as somewhat of a minority.

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  103. JamesinNM says:

    Romans2:28-29 describes real Jews with a changed heart. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 describes false Jews as the synagogue of Satan.

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  104. Ron Unz says:
    @FKA Max

    Nathan Cofnas @nathancofnas
    Replying to @westland_will @jordanbpeterson

    The study you’re citing (by Unz) is wrong. It overestimated the percentage of Jews among Harvard students and underestimated the percentage of Jews among high-achieving applicants. See [he cites Andrew Gelman]

    Well, I’m too busy with my work to get drawn into this comment-thread, let alone read the academic article under discussion.

    But if the author fell for the ridiculously shoddy claims of that Gelman fellow regarding my own very detailed Meritocracy analysis, I must have very grave doubts about his scholarly rigor. Here’s one of my columns of the time summarizing Gelman’s behavior:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/meritocracy-gelmans-sixth-column/

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  105. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    I’ve looked up CAA. They’re a two man band and in your account they managed to get an Assistant Chief Constable to reluctantly humour them…but only that. They’re irrelevant to the legal status of speech in Britain.

    For comparison, the bizarrely titled ‘Tell MAMA’ which cracks down on ‘Islamaphobic’ speech has had over 500 people actually arrested in the last 5 years.

    I also see that CAA are mostly lambasted by the pro-Muslim left for not going after people like you enough.

    Furthermore, the only serious campaign for free speech in Britain seems to be by Spiked Online.

    You can find their article called “hate speech is free speech” here:

    http://www.spiked-online.com/freespeechnow/fsn_article/hate-speech-is-free-speech

    Judging by the very large proportion of their quoted supporters who are Jews, it seems that Jews are far better represented on the free speech side of the debate in Britain than they are on the other side.

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  106. @Bardon Kaldian

    And who says that Jewish females who outmarry pick up “superior” genetic & aesthetic traits?

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/242098
    In one post about his biological mother, [Parkland school shooter Nikolas] Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN. He also said that he hated Jews because he believed they wanted to destroy the world.

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  107. @the Supreme Gentleman

    You conflate Alt-Right views with those of the silly and cartoonish neo-Nazis such as the Daily Stormer. I realize that the press – and people like yourself – have done a good job and combining the two in the public’s mind, but it’s simply not true.

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  108. @Wally

    Figures and credible sources please!????

    What are the figures respectively for mem and women?

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  109. @the Supreme Gentleman

    These comments seem so biased. Your question
    “How can this possibly be squared with an account of Jewish behavior secretly being Jews aggressively promoting their interests as an ethnic group?”
    You are kidding of course? The secret behavior is the linked network, the religious culture, the religious propaganda, in the across the globe access to financial support, afforded tribal members; in the major global capital that some how appears available to tribe members when local opportunity presents the need. Secret tribal behaviors are found in the unlimited access to education[afforded to tribal members by grant, by endowment, by scholarship, etc.], the unlimited access to money, the access , support, and major media promotion, etc. whenever a member of the tribe seeks election to an important job in civil government, the unbelievably biased ratios of Jews to others in law schools and medical schools and the get of jail free cards issued post event when needed to members of the tribe.

    The local jew [street bum, minor business or local landlord to mayor], the regional jew[ lawyer to governor ], the national jew [head of a large, capitalist corporate enterprise to member of, or director of a major department within, the USA government} , the international jew [ General in the Army, Board of Director member on many corporations, owner of major interest in corporations and Banks all with international reach, and usually funds a foundation of venture capital operation, belongs to secret and important international organizations like the BilderXXX, IMF, and such stuff] but in all cases at the head of each of these (organizations or professions) usually is a Jew. In law, its called res ipsa loquirtur; if it acts like a brown and green striped snake, wiggles like a brown-green snake, smells like a brown-green snake, lives in, and is located after the bite, to be still in the house of the victim, and the person bitten lives alone-at-home, then the victims claims that a brown-green striped snake bit him, unless the snake can defend itself with evidence that appoints another to be the guilty party, the brown and green striped snake is guilty of having bit the plaintiff, the same as if the snake were to confess to biting the dying brown-green striped plaintiff.

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  110. AaronB says:

    Gets some things right, but overall not an impressive attempt.

    Conspiracies aside, any one who claims Jewish dominance is the result of IQ simply can’t be taken seriously. IQ shows beyond any doubt that Jewish dominance must have another explanation. High average IQ means little – population numbers means high IQ whites massively outnumber Jews.

    Anyone who keeps on falling back on IQ on this question just doesn’t have any credibility.

    People, can we move the discussion forward in level of sophistication and not have to argue the same old tired points over and over again? Jewish apologists – you seriously have to start coming up with new ideas. The old high Jewish IQ think has been decisively discredited, not just through simple logic and applying the mathematics of IQ, but also because the internet has made that sparkling Jewish intellect available for everyone to see.

    We glance at the pages of the New York Times and what we do see? A coterie of utter mediocrities like David Brooks representing that famous Jewish intellect. We look at American intellectual life under Jewish leadership and we find decline in standards and growing mediocrity everywhere.

    No, the Jewish myth of “meritocracy” (perfectly compatible btw with higher average Jewish IQ) simply canmot survive the internet and the public spotlight it shines on the Jewish intellect. And besides, it is late in the day – Jewish prominence has been a fact for over fifty years, and it has coincided with massive national decline across all sectors. Meritocracy – lol, guys.

    What I would like to see is Jewish apologists coming up with interesting new explanations for Jewish prominence. Perhaps it’s more energy or ambition or civilizational arc explanations – whatver, but something intelligent and that doesn’t retardedly fly in the face of IQ math (repeat it enough times and people will believe lol), or so obviously ignore the massive intellectual decline in this country under Jewish leadership.

    What the article DOES get right is that “hierarchic harmony” in white society is an utter myth and a ridiculous fairy tale – that nevertheless may be necessary for white societies to recover their vigor. Everyone has myths – I can think of one exceptionally ridiculous one off the top of my hat, the myth of Jewish meritocracy : ) Also, the myth of persecution of innocent Jews who dindu nuffin.

    When White societies recover they may be able to have a more nuanced and more intelligent view of Jews – but in crisis, you need simple rallying cries.

    But for purposes of intellectual objevtivity, the author is right that at best Jews amplified preexisting disharmonies in white societies and contributed to decline.

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  111. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    They’re irrelevant to the legal status of speech in Britain.

    Funny you should claim that, since they were behind the first ever private prosecution of “hate speechcrime” in England – of Alison Chabloz for posting a song to the internet.

    You seem to think the fact that they are “just a two man band”, who nevertheless are able to instigate an unprecedented private prosecution and browbeat the CPS into taking it over and continuing it, and are able to have privileged meetings at Assistant Chief Constable level to direct the authorities in the direction of those they want prosecuted, somehow helps your case that “there’s nothing to see here”. It doesn’t.

    Furthermore, the only serious campaign for free speech in Britain seems to be by Spiked Online.

    Funny you should mention them. Yes, they pay lip-service to the “hate speech is free speech” truth, but they were noticeably missing in action (along with the rest of the British media) in publicising and criticising the aforementioned first ever private prosecution for “hate speechcrime” in England.

    The obvious conclusion is that if you ask jews about freedom of speech, you will get very different answers according to whether you frame it as being for communists, racists, anti-homoists etc, or as being about “anti-Semites” and “Holocaust Deniers”.

    Just ordinary human hypocrisy? Yes, but hypocrisy nonetheless.

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  112. There is so much disinformation embedded in this piece, it is difficult to NOT see it as yet another program initiated by them.

    I urge all readers, when encountering ANY article, purporting any kind of a group intelligence advantage to assume that it is propaganda, and part of a long term perception management program by… well, the people with supposedly hereditary superiority.

    It is FALSE!

    1. Self-identifying adherents of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud ideological cult (aka: jews) DO NOT have normative genetic/ancestral commonality.

    2. This is an IDEOLOGY; any asshole with enough money and appropriate empathetic disconnection to the rest of humanity will ultimately be able to BUY his/her way into this extremist clique.

    3. The FALSE association of some kind of an intelligence differential to ‘out-groups‘ comparative to this self-defined ‘in-group‘ is ridiculous (aka STUPID); anybody who believes this propaganda posit is a. stupid, b. a prisoner of the perception management program(s).

    The success of this international collective is it’s ideology, i.e. :
    1. program of psychological conditioning of offspring, creating fear, thus distrust, thus hatred of all out-groups. creates a strong cohesion for in-group adherents; the downside is collateral psychological damage to all successfully indoctrinated adherents
    2. with strong in-group cohesion, and learned de-empathified for all out-group peoples, an artificial sense of entitlement and exceptionalism is used to covertly undermine and subvert existing systems of governance, by negative-sum-gain gaming those systems to systemically favour in-group adherents, thus creating a real value-proposition to adherents, thus reinforcing the in-group cohesion.
    3. Such an organizational design can operate in an international environment, using it’s hidden/covert ‘virtual state‘ to weaken non-subverted (traditional) nation state societies, with the ultimately objective of subverting them as well, to the ultimately objective of total domination and enslavement of all out-group peoples.

    I state again, the suggestion of normative Torah-Pharisees-Talmud ideological cult (aka: jews) membership intelligence differentials to overall populations is absurd, (beyond ridiculous) and yet another manifestation of hatred against all out-group people.

    The success of this international extremist sect is attributable to:

    a. in-group cohesion by active selective disablement of natural human empathic response to out-group peoples,

    b. secretive manipulation, by systemic negative-sum-gain gaming of systems of governance/control of larger society, favouring in-group membership.

    Every reader of this, whether the are a self-identifying adherent, or not, should educate themselves about the history and the methods of this collective.
    I honestly believe that self-identifying adherents would voluntarily leave the supposed value-proposition if they understood what it actually means, and how it actually works.
    I recommend Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion“, available online by way of a search; I advise using a search engine other than google, and doing everything that you can to maintain your anonymity in doing so.

    The entire thing about the intelligence differential such a gargantuan lie; only atteptable if you have overwhelmingly confident control of media and academia.

    History shows us many examples of what happens when this kind of overwhelming confidence occurs.

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  113. The word “Jew” is a sort of indistinguishable word. Basically it can mean a person who is descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Or it can mean a descendant of Judah and not of his brothers. These I would call the Sephardic Jews. While there are those “Jews” who are descendent of converts to the religion of Judaism such as the Ashkenazi. The Ashkenazi were people from the Caucus region who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. They are not descendants of Abraham that anyone knows of. Then there is the religious aspect. People are called Jews who are Jews because they embrace the Jewish religion or Judaism. Then there are those who come from a Jewish background who are atheist. So when the term Jew us used, it is a broad term that is rather indistinct.

    Morally speaking there should be little difference between practicing Jews (religious) and practicing Christians. Secular Jews and atheist Jews are a different matter. Unfortunately the present language has little to make the distinction.

    IQ is a measure of education and not really intelligence. The more education a person has the higher the IQ becomes. Sometimes IQ test have a cultural basis. Intelligence is a bit harder to measure.

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  114. AaronB says:

    So I’m getting my comments banned? Great job guys – you’ll really dispel any notion of a Jewish conspiracy to suppress free speech and control media this way :)

    I didn’t realize I was this formidable – my comments don’t even go into moderation :)

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  115. @Wally

    Sources?

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  116. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Funny you should claim that, since they were behind the first ever private prosecution of “hate speechcrime” in England – of Alison Chabloz for posting a song to the internet.

    I don’t think you understand what a private prosecution is. As long as you have at least £6000 anyone can begin a private prosecution but because they have to bear the cost they will only do so if the Crown has decided not to pursue the case. It is not a sign of power or influence…

    And yes, that seemingly quixotic effort for it to be taken up by the actual Crown Prosecution Service somehow worked but given that the CPS completed over 15,000 hate speech prosecutions in just 2015, and no other organisation had to pay for the groundwork themselves, it says that the CAA are beyond irrelevant.

    Funny you should mention them. Yes, they pay lip-service to the “hate speech is free speech” truth, but they were noticeably missing in action (along with the rest of the British media) in publicising and criticising the aforementioned first ever private prosecution for “hate speechcrime” in England.

    Don’t be silly. It clearly isn’t just lip service. It is Britain’s foremost effort.

    Furthermore, they’ve specifically defended Chabloz before. And since there are 15,000 other such cases a year, almost all unrelated to Jews, how many more articles do you want?

    The obvious conclusion is that if you ask jews about freedom of speech, you will get very different answers according to whether you frame it as being for communists, racists, anti-homoists etc, or as being about “anti-Semites” and “Holocaust Deniers”.

    Is an article with the title “Don’t censor anti-Semites” not explicit enough for you?

    Seriously…

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/dont-censor-anti-semites-argue-with-them/17325

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  117. AaronB says:

    BTW moderation kept on trashing my comments and then making me make them shorter and shorter!

    A sad day for unz.com when these kinds of moderation tricks ate permitted, unless it’s a glitch.

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  118. @mark green

    Well said!

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  119. @Tyrion 2

    When a silly paternalistic attitude and concern trolling are the response to a very simple argument, you let us know that you are a dishonest, ethnocentric shill Tyrone, or Incitatus, or whatever the hell you are today.

    Address the argument and stop horsing around, shill.

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  120. AaronB says:

    Ron Unz – you might wanna look into moderation. As I was commenting I had to make them shorter or shorter or they were “disappeared” – wouldn’t even go into moderation queue. That’s why my comments get shorter and shorter.

    And comment #113 – I erased that, and it disappeared from the queue as you’d expect, only to strangely reappear and get published!

    [For some reason the automatic spam filter has been acting up the last few days. Your comments have now been cleaned up and published, with the duplicates deleted.]

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  121. @TheDividualist

    Over reaction is about right. The author doesnt seem to have a clue about what a non jewish perspective might be. I think most “anti semites’ of any average IQ understand perfectly well jewish “whats good for the Jews” strategy is at least in their minds, a reaction to whats come before. What they dont seem to grasp is this is an endless cycle not of jews being persecuted for no good reason as they claim and therefore their need to take measures. But rather their need to take measures is what precipitates the cycle. If non jews were the anti semites jews suppose jews would never be allowed into these nations where they claim they are mistreated, but they are and they succeed swimmingly for centuries until their behavior inevitably goes to far again.The author also seems to think these host nations ought to just wipe their minds clean of the entire history of what jews have done before in their nations and others nations, This simply isn’t possible, the way an individual or a group deals with a toxic cycle its gotten itself into is to come clean make amends and suffer a period of probation where you prove you have really turned over a new leaf. jews never do this instead they blame deny accuse and then use the past behavior to justify future behavior of the same type.The mindblowing example is post world war two in the united states. America rescued and took in europe’s jews and what did the jews do, well the war wasn’t even started before they were manipulating roosevelt and transferring the frankfurt school to american universities, spying for the commies etc.And as soon as that was set up they went about masterminding the leftist revolution that has destroyed western civilization in a few decades, not satisfied with the death of our culture they set about genociding us physically with their multiculturalism racism programs.

    What the jews don’t seem to get in these discussions at all is that they don’t have a right to be in anybody else’s country. They always approach these arguments from the supposition that they have an absolute right to live in any nation they wish as outsiders and dictate the terms on which they will live their.Many times including this past 75 years jews have been given a carte blanche to assimilate completely and become literally one of the host nations people they always and everywhere refuse and work assiduously to remain outsiders. they do this by seeing themselves as such constantly reminding their hosts they are different and are not happy how they are being treated etc.Again its clear jews are pretty autistic about how they are from another perspective. they dont get you cant have it both ways they are guest not customers of some resort. Whats incredible is you never once hear them explain how it is supposed to be tolerable for any nation to allow a foreign people to set up shop and claim 50% of the power and wealth. That’s simply intolerable no matter what only actual members of the nation are allowed to have any significant power and wealth in a nation, its insanity to think otherwise. Jews have found they can gaslight whites into allowing quite a lot of this first because they can pass fairly well and mostly because they are masters at insinuating themselves with the powerful while they work themselves into that position, they are too clever by half because this allows them to get themselves too far out on a ledge and when it blows up as it must they cycle repeats and they are expelled.The only way jews can expect to be allowed to target the most lucrative and powerful tranches of a nation is to be completely assimilated asking is it good for the jews is diametrically opposed to this the question should be what are jews. Yes we all get voluntarily subsuming your own ethnocultural identity is a lot to ask. But we didn’t ask you asked. which brings us to the real elephant in the room.
    until very recently jews have had a strategy to eschew the effort of conquering a piece of ground building and defending a nation and building up that nations mundane but indispensable infrastructure, the sewers the army the factories and a trillion other things that you take time away from nobel prizes and billion dollar banking projects. And instead they parasitically sorry there is no other word for it. they parasitically invade others nations and target only the specific areas of that nation that will yield the most wealth and power quickest. They do in fact network not only with each other within that nation but internationally with other jews doing the same in other nations.This has been noticed and documented for literally thousands of years. The proof is undeniable they are a tiny people scattered throughout the world for thousands of years into the most culturally dominant nations the world has known and yet they remain identifiable to themselves and others as if they were all living in israel for the past 3000 years.
    No the question isn’t what the “alt right” get wrong we all know they get a lot wrong they are not the brightest lads on the right. But they get it about right every antisemite does and always has. nitpicking is really a red herring. the essential complaints of anti semites are correct. in fact they are usually tame when you consider the real point is not how should jews be treated in others nations but why the fuck are jews even allowed into others nations? That is to say some few people who happen to be jewish might be allowed into another’s nation and in a generation they ought to be indistinguishable from another. This has to go triply for a type of foreigner that has outsized ability. Its common sense and has nothing to do with the peculiarities of jews and their critics that a nation can not tolerate foreigners running things or wealth being inordinately made by an outgroup. Spare us the but what we contribute con game, autonomy has no price, and if you were honest its never ever stops with the wealth it goes next to the power then that is used to dismantle the culture because you get paranoid the host nation might soon object to what you have been up to.And as we noted it isnt a fair comparison of productivity you dont accomplish what you have while simultaneously maintaining a nation even the one you recently got is bought fought and paid for by the nations that support your diaspora.
    I am not an alt right Im actually a jew liker but im at the end of my rope my nation and all western nations and now their people thanks to the jews are practically destroyed and will only survive if my people can bring themselves to launch what will certainly be the bloodiest natiest race and civil war the planet has ever seen and do it soon. yes liberalism has a white variant, it s a completely different virus the white variant comes of our own genetic path which is singularly of all the worlds racist and most opposite the jews an open culture also a innovative culture white leftism is born of our innate need to improve things, to constantly fix problems its do good leftism its often short sighted and wrong headed because math is hard, but unless its actors have been jew trained its rarely morbid. Jew leftism is destructive because its not jew interests people nations being deconstructed destroyed subverted. There’s a famous jewish children’s books author who has two careers one making strongly jewish and culturally conservative books for jewish children and the other making tommy has two daddies fucking him books for white children.Even if the author were correct it would be beside the point if your a guest in someones house and you are caught with silverware in your pocket the response is not but your son was stealing from you also so fuck off racist.
    Ill end with my usual. Jews have about 15 minutes to do a 180 and put twice the effort into white nationalism as they have spent over the past 150 years deconstructing white nations. they need to stop defending themselves admit their mistakes apologize ask for forgiveness ans demonstrate they are jews second who also intend to lose all jewish identity as soon as possibly by any means white nations may devise to unwind the jewish wealth and power imbalance. In short rather than do the whole expulsion and murder thing again just force you to assimilate to marry out to not be able to practice your religion to not be allowed to identify as jews to not hold significant power asa jew. laws like that and in a couple generations you and we wont even know you are jews in fact you wont be you will be a genetic remnant greater numbers of your host nations people have that’s diminish recognizable. Or you can choose to immigrate to Israel.

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  122. bookish1 says:

    Without getting into a multitudinous detail the bottom line is Jews are at war with people of European descent and in the final end of the war either Jews will go extinct or European Aryans will go extinct and there is no other way that the war end will play out. Right now Jews are winning because white Aryans arne’t fighting. Jews are on the offensive even threatening to nuke Europe while us Aryans are doing very little, with a few exceptions, but not nearly enough for us Aryans to win.

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  123. Vojkan says:

    “So we might suspect that Ashkenazi Jews, with the highest average IQ in the world,”

    That’s where I stopped reading. And they wonder why people who score better than them at IQ tests loathe them. Because folks, it’s not the dumpsters that envy their intelligence, no, the dumpsters admire them, it’s smart folks that despise them, because smart folks don’t like mindsets that are full of bs.

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  124. Grigor says:

    In all these discussions, nobody has mentioned that the Jews do not have a word for “conscience”, a word that occurs in the New Testament 39 times but zero times in the Old Testament. If one is interested in only achievement, “conscience” is a handicap. But without “conscience”, the sweetness of life does not exist. Therein lies the answer both for achievement and for being hated.

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  125. vergil says:

    Wow, lots of major weaknesses in this piece, but I’d like to touch on some that I don’t think have been mentioned above.

    One of the extremely disingenuous aspects of this article is the authors’ claim that MacDonald’s use of group evolutionary psychology in CoC is non-scientific or non-falsifiable, which therefore discredits the work. The glaring issue with this assertion is that they fail to mention that ALL social science theory is non-falsifiable and would never be considered scientific by an actual scientist.

    Furthermore, what a lot of academics omit in discussion of antisemitism (as it is here), is the Jews theological belief of ‘divine election.’ Believing that you have a privileged relationship with God, based largely on genealogy, is one of the most absurd and narcissistic claims that any group can make.

    Jews, unlike all other major religions, don’t proselytize their theology or religious history in an attempt to win over converts, but instead spread their beliefs and values simply to further their monopoly on suffering, their claim on Jerusalem and their historical ‘uniqueness.’ It’s no wonder that this type of behavior causes resentment.

    I could go on and on, but one last point is simply the existence of the hebrew word gentile. To my knowledge, no other language has a particle word that so specifically means ‘not us,’ or the ‘others’. I’m not sure if MacDonald actually discusses linguistics, but it’s another crucial piece to the emergence of antisemitism.

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  126. Truth says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    A man can not have children with another man anyway, so the Becall-Bogart thing is kinda silly.

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  127. @the Supreme Gentleman

    In metro NYC Jewish neighborhoods, if a Jewish family wishes to sell their housing unit, they typically don’t run down to the local Realtor and list it for all the world to see on MLS. I’m told by a Jewish pal that they post it on the Synagogue community bulletin board at something like triple market value. Once seller has vetted prospective buyers for ethnic, social and financial fitness, negotiations quickly close the deal at close to market price. Commissions are saved, neighborhoods remain ethnically intact and (((Jewish))) Freedom of Association is preserved while noses are thumbed at “Fair” Housing laws (largely promulgated by YKW) that the many of the rest of us are stuck with.

    So, I don’t know what you call that.

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  128. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    If Farrakhan the most influential thinker on Jews in the black community?

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  129. windwaves says:
    @Lot

    keep on dreaming, the truth about the jew scams is coming out my friend.

    It will take a bit more time especially now that we have a non jew president who is drowned by jews including his own friggin’ grand children. Poor guy.

    Nonetheless, the new generations have their eyes opened and see the terrorist jews operating everywhere. Terrorist israel is doomed, nothing mommy USA can do about that. And Americans themselves are – WAY TOO SLOWLY – facing the truth about the jew scam and how they made America their little puppet. It is going to end.

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  130. @Tyrion 2

    There’s room here for a joke about Gentiles making 77 cents for every dollar Jews make, but I’m not witty enough to make it.

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  131. Doug says:
    @AaronB

    > Conspiracies aside, any one who claims Jewish dominance is the result of IQ simply can’t be taken seriously. IQ shows beyond any doubt that Jewish dominance must have another explanation.

    This doesn’t make any sense. Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is 1.0 Standard Deviations above white gentile average. Genetically, Ashkenazi Jews make up approximately 3.5% of the white American population. For a normally distributed variable like IQ, 1 out 740 samples will be 3 standard deviations or higher than the median. 1 out of 31,574 will be 4 standard deviations higher.

    Therefore we’d expect that any endeavor requiring 140 IQ (normalized to 10 IQ standard deviation) would have a total representation ratio of 2:1 American Jews to American gentiles. The disparity gets even starker the further out you go. 140 IQ is a pretty good baseline for most serious intellectual pursuits. Hence we’d expect to see American Jews make up an absolute (not just proportionate) majority of nearly every single serious intellectual endeavor.

    Consider the 540 billionaires in America. About 300 are white gentile Americans. Given a population of about 150 million adult white gentile Americans, only 1 in 500,000 will be a billionaire. In terms of Gaussian standard deviation, a billionaire is 4.6 standard deviations above the white gentile median. Or about 146 IQ.

    At this level we’d expect the ratio of American Jews:gentiles to be more than 3:1. I.e. given IQ levels, we’d expect to see 75% of America’s billionaires be Jewish. In reality the number is only 33%.

    If anything among elite positions, Jews are significantly under-represnted given their intellectual advantage.

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  132. wayfarer says:

    Initially this video will seem applicable only to the metaphysical. But its author does offer unique insights as well as potential solutions to geopolitical and religious problems facing humanity and the world today.

    I hope UR allows it to post, as its content does have relevance to this thread. Some will accept it as a truth, as others will not. If you have time and a curious mind, you may find it worth watching.

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  133. @TheDividualist

    I think it was Sailer who wrote about Ashkenazim having the “worrier gene”, that is, predisposition to neuroticism and anxiety. Indeed, it is often said that psychiatry was invented by Austrian Jews in order to try to fix the neuroticism in their community or family. Gavin MacInnes wrote he knows very smart Jewish intellectuals who seriously fear Trump would gas them – even though all of Trumps children married Jews, really, if someone has “genetic skin in the game” in not harming Jews, it is Trump.

    Gilad Atzmon, a self-described ex-Jew, calls this tendency among Jews to fear things that haven’t happend yet and probably never will Pre-Traumatic Stress syndrome!

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  134. @Bardon Kaldian

    Could you explain to me what business a USA Public Action Committee has in Brussels of France ?
    The problem is that the Dutch local AIPAC, CIDI, accuses Muslim hater Wilders of being an antisemite because he’s against the EU, the EU that forces immigrants, most of them Muslims, on us.

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  136. Bill says:
    @Anon

    But this does not mean that human beings lose the psychological urge to be guided in moral matters, because it is a very powerful urge.

    Exactly. Getting rid of the established church is King Canute ordering the tide to stop.

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  137. utu says:

    What about the plague thing? Many Jews were tried for spreading it, for poisoning wells and so on. Just because they were tortured and terrorized (all of those who confessed?) does it mean that there is no grain of truth in the accusations? Does the argument that witches do not exist (now) but still they were found guilty of witchcraft by courts in Middle Ages really absolve the Jews of having anything to do with plague?

    What has happened to the hypothesis that Europeans have some degree of immunity (≈10%) to HIV because of the plague in Middle Ages. And how one can explain that among Europeans the highest immunity to HIV is among Ashkenazi Jews (25% among Jews of Lithuanian origins)?

    Did Black Death boost HIV immunity in Europe?

    https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/news050307-15.html

    D32_allele_frequencies_in_Ashkenazi_Jews

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5562152_CCR5-D32_allele_frequencies_in_Ashkenazi_Jews

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  138. They control the “money” folks. If gentiles controlled the Fed and could hand out free money to gentiles of their choosing at someone else’s expense, gentiles would probably do pretty well.

    They don’t have the same morality that most folks have, no problem stealing from people you consider subhumans.

    They stick together, and are great at turning other races against each other. Creating a divide and exploiting the hell out of it. Thats why they push for “diversity” here in America/Europe but not in Israel. Much easier to divide and conquer a multicultural society. Simple.

    When you have all the money and control all the money, politicians are corrupt and LOVE money, so they can easily control policy.

    They control the “deep state” and can easily spy on everyone, so they can blackmail everyone. This is also a problem with politicians, “deep state” has dirt on all of them so when they get out of line they blackmail the snot of of em. Easy as pie.

    Its really pretty simple.

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  139. renfro says:

    What the Alt-Right Gets Wrong About Jews

    First, don’t try to pretend that’s its only the Alt-Right that take a dim view of the Jews when in fact a wide and diverse swath of non deplorable citizens have that same opinion.

    Second, what do we get wrong about the Jews assault on the US Constitution thru a bribed congress trying to criminalize free speech and right to boycott anyone as a expression of their political and human rights views.

    Jews are bad for America and Americans .

    Case closed.

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  140. Thomm says:
    @utu

    I’m not Indian, you moron. I have told you this umpteen times.

    Why do you use a faggotty name like ‘utu’ anyway? Is it because you wear a Tutu?

    What a loser you are.

    Heh heh heh heh

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  141. lavoisier says: • Website
    @AaronB

    You are that formidable And there are many others on this site equally formidable.

    That is why Unz is such a treasure.

    I doubt Ron would sanction suppression of your comments.

    But the authors of this piece–I am open to the possibility that free speech is not their strong suit.

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  142. Thomm says:

    What is funny is that WN wiggers insist that Jews are not white.

    A Jew looks white, in all but the rarest of cases.

    A Jew will be welcomed at a WN wigger gathering as long as he does not have some obviously Jewish last name (or does not disclose his last name).

    White Trashionalists just want to blame others for their lack of success and ne’er do well traits.

    Jews have given a lot of great innovations to the world.

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  143. Tyrion 2 says:
    @utu

    The most urban population will have the most immunity to a disease that killed most in urban areas.

    But really, what’s the point with you lot? Are you even real? Jews responsible for the black death? Jews engaged in an eternal war against Europeans? Jews as being genetically without conscience? Wtf. I know the internet is full of lunatics but you lot are full-blown evil. There’s no other word to describe it. I could never think of a group of people like that as my own heart isn’t pitch black.

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  144. lavoisier says: • Website
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    Therefore we’d expect that any endeavor requiring 140 IQ (normalized to 10 IQ standard deviation) would have a total representation ratio of 2:1 American Jews to American gentiles. The disparity gets even starker the further out you go. 140 IQ is a pretty good baseline for most serious intellectual pursuits. Hence we’d expect to see American Jews make up an absolute (not just proportionate) majority of nearly every single serious intellectual endeavor.

    Most experts consider the standard deviation of IQ to be 15 points. If you want to lower the standard deviation significantly you will skew the results to favor your perspective. Heck, assuming Jews score one standard deviation about non-Jewish whites and you define the standard deviation to be 5 there soon will not be any goyim who can break that magical 140 barrier.

    Assuming the IQ differential between Askkenazi Jews and non-Jewish whites is close to one standard deviation of a conventional 1o-15 points, which is much higher than most experts would acknowledge (See for example the work of Richard Lynn and Charles Murrary and the evidence that the gap is primarily verbal with a Jewish spatial deficit), we get the following numbers:

    With a mean IQ of the Goyim at 100 and a mean IQ of the Jews at 110, and assuming a standard deviation in both populations of approximately 15 IQ points, Jews will be over-represented with IQs greater than 140 by a factor of 6:1. This is clearly significant and can account to a certain extent for Jewish success.

    At this IQ level, however, the absolute number of non-Jewish whites will exceed the absolute number of Jewish geniuses by a factor of approximately 6:1, given the far greater numbers of non-Jewish whites in the nation.

    When you do your calculations, please use data that is generally perceived as valid.

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  145. @Outrage Beyond

    Chomsky has a giant moral blind spot when it comes to the massive crimes and murderous nature of the Jewish occupation in Palestine.

    It’s not just Chomsky, unfortunately. And that’s the big point that this article ignores.

    That blind spot is, more than anything, the reason for the (very real) conspiracy being interpreted as the work of ‘THE’ Jews rather than a group of Jews. The overwhelming majority of Jews turn two blind eyes to anything and everything even remotely villainous perpetrated by Israel or other Jews. Past or present or openly planned for the future.

    Yet, they’ll come out of the proverbial woodwork to band together and shut down any and all criticism of Jews in a hail of Semitic cries of victimization, no matter how legitimate the claims against them are.

    That (understandably) makes it hard for a lot of people out there to look at any Jews as operating outside of some unified, subversive collective. Even though there’s plenty of Jews who reap no more benefit from their Jewish privilege card than I do my White privilege card.

    Either way, it’d be a non-issue if I were able to just live peacefully and quietly among my own kind.
    And that’s all that I and damn near everyone in the alt-right really wants.

    Though many who identify with them may be angry, resentful and even hostile, the alt right is a manifestation of white persecution, not white racism. They wouldn’t exist if whites were not uniquely denied the right to self segregate to their own nations like the rest of the world is.

    One would think an honest Jew could sympathize with this desire more than anyone else in the world.

    Instead, Jews lead the pack in denying whites this right. And in weaponizing other races against whites. They truly are the masters of their own cyclical fate. As are the rest of us when we chose repeat the civilization-jeopardizing mistakes of those who came before us by trusting Jews time and again only for the same subversion to result, without fail.

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  146. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Tyrion 2,

    Has provided zero evidence for any of his claims pertaining to Sweden’s media. He just offers obfuscations and denial. I encourage anyone who’s curious on the subject to read Daniel Hoglund’s Analysis. Do you disagree with anything that Daniel Hoglund or I have written Tyrion. Cite you claim.

    Also, visit this wiki page where it lists the names for the 8 largest morning and evening newspapers, and look at who owns them. 5/8 are owned by Bonnier. 2/8 are owned by “foreign banks.” The largest newspapers act as the equivalent of the NYTimes and are the papers of record on national issues, like immigration, which is the issue at stake in this debate.

    Tyrion 2: Instead of just offering obfuscations and denials, you should start providing citations.

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  147. iffen says:
    @mcohen

    Fact is white americans feel threatened by the growing latino populations

    Hey McOhen,

    I assume this means that you do not put Jews in the white box.

    This “white” does not feel threatened by mestizos. I do feel threatened by political leaders that are more interested in representing the interests of all mestizos in the Americas rather than actual American citizens.

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  150. @jilles dykstra

    Again, I don’t quite understand your point. I am not denying there are various Jewish activist groups putting their noses where they don’t belong.

    I just don’t see they affect immigration policy in these countries (France, Italy, Germany,…) in any significant manner.

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  151. renfro says:
    @nickels

    As Jonathan Israel shows, the Enlightenment was in large part a Jewish intellectual movement to attack Christianity and replace it with Pagan/Kabbalistic Mysticism, which largely succeeded

    How many times must this myth be killed?

    Jews take credit for the ‘Enlightenment’ and claim Jewish brilliance created it, just as they typically claim they invented everything. WRONG

    Then some idiot also claims Jews created the Enlightenment to attack Christianity.
    ALSO WRONG

    The Jews had nothing to do with it….the fact that the Enlightenment was known as the Age of Reason should be a clue—–>Jews and Reason don’t mix.

    The intellectual kick start of the Enlightenment was a group of writers; Rousseau, Montesquieu, Buffon, Diderot, and Voltaire. Three Protestants and two Catholics with three of them schooled at Jesuit universities as the Jesuits were the vanguard of education and learning in those days.

    Real history is your friend, use it.

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  152. @Thomm

    “WN wiggers insist that Jews are not white”

    It’s Israel with the DNA based immigration policy that Europeans don’t pass.

    “A Jew looks white, in all but the rarest of cases”

    Extensive mixing will do that.

    “A Jew will be welcomed at a WN wigger gathering as long as he does not have some obviously Jewish last name (or does not disclose his last name)”

    Actually, they’ll typically be welcomed even if they do have an obviously Jewish last name, and fully disclose such. Take a closer look at Richard Spencer and AmRen.

    “White Trashionalists just want to blame others for their lack of success and ne’er do well traits.”

    White ‘trashionalists’ built the West. Full stop. We can go over America’s founding immigration policy if you’d like more evidence of who the founders were. They weren’t commie true believers of the multicult.

    The ‘lack of success’ came with the influence of non-whites. Namely Jews. Who lobbied for Negroes to run free in America, lobbied for feminism to ravage the nuclear family unit and occupationally orphan children into the government’s hands, lobbied for the 1965 immigration act that implemented mass migration from the 3rd world.

    Americans didn’t vote to make themselves minorities in their own nations.
    That’s was forced on them.

    The extent of the fault that white nationalism needs to own up to is not invoking the 2nd amendment for it’s intended purpose of preventing subversion long before things got this bad.

    “Jews have given a lot of great innovations to the world.”

    So have whites. But only the Jews get to have an ethno state. Whites have to sit quietly and not complain about being demographically replaced in all their nations by movements largely being championed by Jews.

    You wouldn’t see hide nor hair of white nationalists if you didn’t force them to host your presence in the nations that their ancestors and ideology built.

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  153. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    But if the author fell for the ridiculously shoddy claims of that Gelman fellow regarding my own very detailed Meritocracy analysis, I must have very grave doubts about his scholarly rigor.

    My thoughts exactly!

    Kevin MacDonald
    ‏@TOOEdit

    I have posted a reply to @nathancofnas at Research Gate as a preprint–their term for unpublished manuscripts seeking comments. Comments may be sent to [email protected]. I will continue working on this & eventually submit to an academic journal https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323857842_Reply_to_Nathan_Cofnas

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/975785383291011073

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  154. Da joos control the weather, says this bro, a politician of national importance:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/19/democrat-lawmaker-blames-bad-weather-jews-controlling-climate/

    Apart from neo-Nazis, white supremacists and their Alt-Right ideological kin, plus America’s Muslim imports — all relatively small group — Blacks have been, by far, the largest and most strident anti-Semitic group in the U.S. And Jews have been the largest, most strident and most effective group supporting America’s Blacks and their causes.

    Explain in terms of group evolutionary strategy? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

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    @AaronB

    Thanks!

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  156. @utu

    What about the plague thing? Many Jews were tried for spreading it, for poisoning wells and so on. Just because they were tortured and terrorized (all of those who confessed?) does it mean that there is no grain of truth in the accusations? Does the argument that witches do not exist (now) but still they were found guilty of witchcraft by courts in Middle Ages really absolve the Jews of having anything to do with plague?

    All I can say- this is probably the zaniest thing I’ve read on this site. If I understand it correctly, Jews could be responsible for the plague. So:

    * witches may not be guilty now- but there is a possibility these womyn were doing all those nasty things back in the Middle Ages

    * Jews could, possibly, be at least partially culpable for medieval infestations.

    Highly recommended:

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  157. Mulegino1 says:

    It is quite simple. International Jewry exercises editorial control over most of the mainstream media in the EU and the Anglosphere, and uses the hammer of ubiquitous Jewish victimhood to perpetually guilt shame and extort the goyim, and thereby avoid practically all criticism. (The exception to this are the kosher parameters between which the leftist press is able to criticize some actions of the Israeli state and Likud style Zionism, but that is about it.) The mere mention- or even the hinting at- the overwhelmingly disproportionate influence of organized Jewry on the media, finance, academia, politics and the entertainment world will have the tribe and its flocks of shabbos goyim screaming and the heretofore dreaded verbal bludgeon, “Antisemite” will undoubtedly be trotted out to stifle any expression of the truth.

    The Shoah Business and the myth of the “good war” make possible the symbiosis of international Jewry and Atlanticist-NATO hegemony, since they absolve the former from all scrutiny and criticism and justify the latter with the pretext that the Allies “saved the world.” These two twin Satanic fantasies actually represent the death of Western and Central European culture and the genocide via replacement of Christian Europeans in the EU. Fortunately, these narratives have little traction in Eastern Europe and Russia, whose populations are much more “Jew-wise.”

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  158. Thomm says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    White ‘trashionalists’ built the West. Full stop.

    Nope. Successful whites (like me) built America. But white variance is very high, you see, and the bottom 20% of whites differs from successful whites by such a huge margin, that they aren’t really even the same race. Rather, they are a defective subrace that the genetic waste matter accumulates into.

    The bottom 20% contributes only entropy. The men become WN wiggers, while the women become fat bluehaired fatties (in the past, these were your wives).

    If this bottom 20% were given their own land and told to produce a country, it would be worse than Haiti.

    The extreme variance in whites (in brains, looks, and talent) means that the bottom 20% has no business taking credit for what the better whites accomplished.

    Plus, Jews are white. Get that through your head.

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  159. Barbara Spectre and the Paideia project in Sweden is good evidence of Zionism at work. But judging by the comments to this article, there does seem to be a lot of fairly intelligent people who just don’t like Jews. Everyone has bias; mine is towards Blacks. I believe Blacks, along with their White enablers, act as a virus in Western countries. Most Jewish people have a strong family ethic, and bring value to the communities they call home.

    It is rational to harbor suspicions about Zionists (and let’s not forget WASP Zionists like Dick Cheney, agent of chaos and destruction), and Israeli influence in D.C.. But to toss most or all Jews into the conspiracy basket is a mistake.

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  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I agree it’s a huge mistake to blame Jews for all our problems. Sweden’s insane, global pro African National Congress Liberalism and “Let’s welcome all the Muslim rapists in to Sweden” this was done by confused idiot Swedes with some Jewish assistance.

    That said:

    Jews tend to be good and extremely bad at certain things.

    Jews are good students
    Jews tend to be smart, successful in business

    Jews tend to really really suck at politics, especially immigration politics. Virtually every single Jewish Congressman and US Senator gets an F immigration grade from NumbersUSA.

    Jews in ISrael have sensible border walls.

    Jews in the USA demand we can’t have any border walls.

    Also, check out the horrible God awful ugly, lying Jews on the US Supreme Court.

    Just look at Ruth Bader Ginzberg and Elena Kagan!

    https://onmogul.com/stories/why-ruth-bader-ginsburg-is-the-beyonce-of-the-law-and-the-ultimate-role-model

    These Supreme Court Justice Jewesses are so ugly even Bill Clinton didn’t want to have sex with them.

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  161. Wade says:
    @Outrage Beyond

    I think you’re right about this. Listen to this interview between Allison Weir and Chomsky:

    At some point Noam lays both the creation of Israel and Israel’s crimes at the US’s feet. However, when Allison counters with her own research that shows that zionist organizations used the US to create Israel, Noam basically hangs up the phone in the middle of the conversation.

    Very telling video.

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  162. @Max Denken

    Jews have been the largest, most strident and most effective group supporting America’s Blacks and their causes.

    say what?

    Rabbi Stephen Wise established NAACP ~ 1918, same period he was in vanguard of creation of American Jewish Congress.

    Since then, what has been the trajectory of Jewish lives in USA? How has AJC evolved? What has AJC accomplished for Jews?

    Since 1918 when Rabbi Stephen “soap and lampshades” Wise founded NAACP, what has been the trajectory of Black lives in USA? How has NAACP evolved? What has NAACP accomplished for Blacks over the century of its existence?

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  163. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Tyrion 2,

    I’m not an anti-Semite. You keep throwing that word around. I’m anti-people-who-harm-my-country. If Jews fought to defend the ethnic composition of White America and Europe to the extent that they fight to defend Israel, I wouldn’t care if they owned all the media and occupied all the supreme court seats and were 60% of MPs, Senators and Congressmen. Actually, I would prefer that they own 100% of the media if they fought as hard to defend my people as they fight to defend their own. I have nothing against Jews as Jews. I have everything against their double standards and subversion.

    I’m against men like Steve Gutow and Mark Golub who push a: “particularism for me in Israel and universalism for the Goyim in America and Europe,” agenda. Barbara Lerner Spectre is far from the only Jewish hypocrite who does this. Here’s another example of the behavior that Cofnas claims isn’t a thing.

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  164. AaronB says:
    @lavoisier

    And thats is best case scenario for Jews. Plus, Jewish dominance is most extreme at medium IQ level proffessions like Hollywood, media, lawyering etc. No need for geniuses there, and the lopsided skew in favor of whites is even more extreme on these levels.

    We need better explanations. No more fairy tales.

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  165. Wally says:
    @Liberty Mike

    You are welcomed to try and show me wrong.

    I have yet to see that the gentile does not covert, or at a minimum raise their children as ‘Jews’.
    A good way to get free, unearned, & undeserved stuff.
    A good way for Jews to freshen a generally sickly, diseased gene pool.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  166. Mulegino1 says:

    Okay, Jews are white:

    “…where, although room existed, the Jews were crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the expression ‘lost tribes of Israel’ applied to the tribes which disappeared — not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe — lost to all decency.”

    “This happened to be the feast of Yom Kippur, so they were all collected in a large, wooden building, which they called a synagogue. It behooved General Eisenhower to make a speech to them. We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came down and met the General . . . The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and actually about three hours later lost my lunch as the result of remembering it.”

    I presume the focus of your hatred and contempt, namely the “white n**gers” also extends to this sea of humanity as described by General Patton, who was by all measures white, successful, of aristocratic lineage and independently wealthy. Am I correct?

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  167. Wally says:
    @Lot

    If all that was true you would not be here. I sense panic in you.

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    http://www.codoh.com

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  168. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Horrible.

    God awful

    As bad as it gets

    If I was at that party I would force a crucifix in the face of this evil J vampire.

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  169. It never ceases to amaze me the hyper-kinetics concerning Jews is the attempt to categorize Jews as non-whites. Given that Being Jewish is not a skin color dynamic, it a strange assail. Further complicating the already strange advance is that the complaints about Jews is the complaints are about Jews who are in fact largely from Europe and the US and who are in fact white. The original Jewish bloodlines (original 12 tribes) which may exist – but probably doesn’t exist among Europeans and US citizens.

    Since whiteness remains a key demarcation for being in or out, it would seem that whiteness is the primary code for inclusion. White Jews are no less eager to purge non-whites from their ranks as whites in general. What isolates Jews are their unique practices as to belief as unique among God’s creation. Liberal or not that seems to be an inherent trait.

    As to intelligence and education proficiency as understood among developed nations. I attribute to the complexities in learning their languages. Asian cultures, as do Muslims and Jews have a very complex and intense process of learning writing and reading down to the very detail of the symbols require to navigate the same. I would think that serves as the primary foundation for educational achievement.

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  170. KAJ says:

    Did you just allow some Jews to… nevermind, just unfuckinbelievable

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  171. @Wally

    My best boyhood friend married a pushy JAP – but the three girls have all been raised as Catholics.

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  172. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @RabbiHighComma

    Jews should form a US Department of Goyim Disarmament with only jews on the force.

    Could be a new military branch: USJF. Better get started calculating their 2020 budget proposal…

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  173. @AaronB

    The problem is smart gentiles just don’t want cool, high-paying jobs and banging beautiful would-be starlets.

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  174. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Too many confusions about ‘identity’, which is used too loosely.

    I think the Right should use the term Inheritance. Identity tends to mean what one chooses or identifies with according to fad or fashion. Inheritance is deeper. It goes back to ancestors and tradition. It is not plucked out of the air like 50 genders. So, the Right needs to be Inheritarian.

    Also, we must not confuse Interest with Identity or Inheritance. A labor union is about shared interests, not identity, let alone Inheritance.
    A black worker and white worker can have shared interests. But their inheritances are different in race, history, memory, and narrative.
    Another case of Shared Interest is tacit alliance of Saudi Arabia & Israel. They have different inheritances in ethnicity & religion BUT they have shared interest in opposing Iran and trying to mess up Assad in Syria. Interests change all the time according to shifting alliances based on Realpolitik. In contrast, Inheritance is about Realethnic.

    Another distinction should be made between Inheritance and Ideology. Ideology is a belief system. Christianity & Communist are Ideologies or belief systems. One can be African, European, or Asian AND be a Christian or Communist. It’s not an Identity or Inheritance.
    In terms of ideology, a Russian communist has more in common with a Chinese communist. But in terms of Inheritance, a Russian communist has more in common with a Russian rightist and traditionalist than with a Chinese Communist. In the end, Inheritance trumps Ideology. The Sino-Soviet rift was huge. And the Communist Bloc broke apart into independent nation-states.

    Vietnamese communists and Chinese communists were united by interest and ideology — anti-Americanism and communism — but eventually separated along lines of Inheritance. In due time, China and Vietnam came to blows even though both were communist. Commie Viets and commie Cambodians also ended up in war.

    So…
    Inheritance is about deep ancestry, history, & narrative.
    Identity is about self-identification.
    Ideology is about your spiritual or philosophical worldview.
    Interest is about pragmatic strategy to achieve short-term goals.

    Inheritance is rich & meaningful because it has real basis in ethnicity, history, & hopefully territory. Its also self-sustaining. Jews on an island can survive forever as Jews by having children who will also have children ad infinitum who can keep alive the fire of Jewish memory and history.
    But ‘gay’ or ‘feminist’ is a weak identity & not self-sustaining. Homos or women alone on island can’t reproduce on their own. Also, almost all homos are born of straight parents. We can’t predict when and where the next homo kid will be born. In contrast, Jewish parents can always give birth to Jewish kids, Irish parents can always give birth to Irish kids, and Japanese parents can always give birth to Japanese kids. There is a continuity with Ethnic Inheritance whereas we can never tell which parents might give birth to homos. Also, there are homos all over the world, so there is no single homo identity. There are Anglo Homos, Arab Homos, Black Homos, Chinese Homos, Hindu Homos, etc.

    Inheritance is autonomous & self-sustaining. If the Irish only remained in Ireland, they could last forever by producing descendants who also carry down Irish tradition & memory. But imagine an island of lesbians only. It is a biologically incomplete identity. It will die out soon. This is why so many faddish identities are useless. They are not autonomous, complete, continuous, and self-sustaining. At best, they are contiguous and mostly they are peripheral or trivial.

    Irish people on an island may not constitute a big community or a great power, but it is complete. It has the essential components of a self-sustaining and whole community. It has the unity of Irish men and Irish women to have Irish children on their homeland to carry on their Irish tradition and memory. Even if shut from the rest of the world, they can survive indefinitely. That is wholeness.

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  175. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    I see no contradiction in wanting civil rights for Mexicans in America and fighting the attempt to render Israel economically and socially untouchable. Without reference to a grand conspiracy theory, how do you?

    Nonetheless, since I strongly disagree with this random loudmouth Rabbi that better treatment for immigrants is the number one issue, let me offer the former Chief Rabbi of Great Britain – a much bigger deal – and his perception of what the main issues facing the West are.

    In this speech he specifically warns that the West has outsourced its future in every way, including its children and obviously the tone makes clear that all should realise that this is a disaster.

    http://rabbisacks.org/danger-outsourcing-morality-read-rabbi-sacks-speech-accepting-templeton-prize/

    Is there a major religious figure who should be more beloved in the dissident right than this man? Who very recently and for a long time held one of only 2 Chief Rabbi positions in the world and who takes this message into the heart of progressive institutions like the BBC?

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  176. Roussillon (what is today southern France)

    A bit off here: Roussillon is a very tiny part of southern France, corresponding to the modern-day “Département” of Pyrénées Orientales (centered on Perpignan). It corresponds to perhaps 3% of the area of southern France.

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  177. mcohen says:
    @iffen

    I agree wholeheartedly.jews are not white.we are a totally different colour.maybe an off white white or even a creamy vivid white.
    Still over 50% of usa cities have latino populations of over 50%.so if you are white and like to live in harmony with all colours and only judge a person by who he is personally then you are good.
    However if you are a white alt right who refuses to live with brown skins or even those dirty white skins then you had better live in white only places because times they are a changing.
    Blaming jews is just escaping the goat.
    South americans look north and want that better life that they cannot get in there countries and move north.economic migration plain and simple.to europe from africa and the middle east
    To uk from pakistan
    The third world wants some of that white mans magic and who can blame them.
    Funny thing is that white privelege is earned by hard work and centuries of learning.those whites that do not have the abilities of there smarter brothers will be replaced.
    In south africa during apartheid if you were not a smart white you got a job on the railways or similar institutions.jobs for life guaranteed.
    These days those same whites now live in shanty towns because blacks and browns have taken those jobs.
    That is the problem with democracy.the numbers rule.my advice to alt right white americans.build baby build as the israeli settlers like to say.
    Build the wall.keep those off whites out.

    Jews are not white.iffen.we are ultra white.thats right my friend ultra white super bright outta sight.
    A little poem i wrote on the subject

    i am mostly white by night
    a little shadow of no doubt.
    the day brings a frightful light
    exposed cheeks a tightful pout.
    but never you kind
    what colour to the blind.
    what lies beneath the skin
    we are all kith and kin.

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  178. MEH 0910 says:
    @AaronB

    We glance at the pages of the New York Times and what we do see? A coterie of utter mediocrities like David Brooks representing that famous Jewish intellect.

    Even the Jewish IQ bell curve has a left hand side. Brooks could be the Jewish equivalent of the gentile retard that bags your groceries.

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  179. @joescomment

    Morally speaking there should be little difference between practicing Jews (religious) and practicing Christians.

    That is just wrong; you don’t seem to know what you are talking about.

    The practicing Christian, interprets the Torah as moderated by the New Testament, “do unto others as you would have others do unto you” or something like that; furthermore, this religion accepts all as equal under a supreme being, regardless of belief, and anyone can ‘convert’ to Christianity.

    The practicing Torah-Pharisees-Talmud collective adherent interprets the Torah as moderated by the Talmud, this is an extreme discriminatory creed, which greatly differentiates between in-group adherents (aka jews) and the rest of humanity, which it does NOT recognize as human but as beasts/servants on earth to serve jews, only resembling humans, so that they don’t make them uncomfortable, and therefore are better at serving. The definitive law is of separation from the rest of humankind. The Talmud is a manual for how to interpret the Torah, and in it, how to apply it correctly to in-group persons, and the opposite treatment for everyone else.

    An objective baseline historical review and analysis can be read in “The Controversy of Zion“, by Douglas Reed.

    As for religious v. political v. cultural definitions of “jews“, according to Gilad Atzmons excerpt from testimony, as expert witness on Jewish Identity politics, at ‘hate crime” trial of Arthur Topham 20151108-20151109
    Sourced originally at: http://blog.balder.org/?p=1673

    When we criticise Jewish politics (Israel, Zionism, the Lobby etc’) some Jews are “racially offended” in spite of the fact that race, biology, blood or ethnicity was never mentioned. When we criticise Jewish racism some Jews hide behind the argument that we are criticizing their religion. When we occasionally criticise the religion or some obscene Jewish religious teaching we are quick to learn that Jews are hardly religious anymore (which is true by the way). The meaning of it is simple, yet devastating. The Jewish triangle makes it very difficult, or even impossible to criticise Jewish politics, ideology and racism because the Identity is set as a field with a tri-polar gravity centre. The identity morphs endlessly. The contemporary 3rd category (political) Jew is everywhere and nowhere simultaneously, this is the quantum mechanics that is set to suppress any possible criticism.

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  180. utu says:
    @Thomm

    Successful whites (like me)

    Why do you keep pretending you are white? You are Indian. Go back to India.

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  181. nickels says:
    @renfro

    1) there was nothing good and nothing reasonable about the Enlightenment.
    2) The Enlightenment was, in fact, an attack on the Christian cosmology, and a return to Pagan and Kabbalic Mysticism.

    With that in mind, Spinoza and his pantheism are, in fact, the precursor to atheism and the materialistic worldview.

    Something certainly spurred the modern lack of reason known as scientific materialism. This attack on the truth of Christianity was a result of a competing heresy. The Jewish kabbala and Pagan fatuation surely played a part.

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  182. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I don’t think you understand what a private prosecution is. As long as you have at least £6000 anyone can begin a private prosecution but because they have to bear the cost they will only do so if the Crown has decided not to pursue the case. It is not a sign of power or influence…

    I suspect I have a better understanding than you, unless you work in the law. The point is that it’s easy to start a private prosecution, but not easy to sustain it. In many cases (other than authorised quasi-state prosecutions such as those by organisations like the RSPCA) they are taken over by the CPS and shut down as frivolous or as not in the public interest. You need big money to pursue a prosecution that is defended (even with volunteer ethnic barristers and solicitors, as the CAA can call on), and you need strong political influence o get the CPS to take over a prosecution they themselves had been refusing to initiate.

    And of course, if it’s easy to initiate a private prosecution, all the more remarkable that the CAA prosecution of Alison Chabloz was the first ever private prosecution for hate speech in England (or at any rate the first that has been allowed to proceed).

    And yes, that seemingly quixotic effort for it to be taken up by the actual Crown Prosecution Service somehow worked but given that the CPS completed over 15,000 hate speech prosecutions in just 2015, and no other organisation had to pay for the groundwork themselves, it says that the CAA are beyond irrelevant.

    I’m not sure whether you misuse those numbers in knowing dishonesty or out of ignorance, but the fact is that number is for “hate crimes” in general, and the vast majority of “hate crime” prosecutions, even the much rarer “hate speech” cases, are for violence, vandalism, personal disputes, threats and such. What the CAA are trying to do is create precedents for pursuing things that are abstract – political comments such as mine or “offensive” (to them) satirical songs such as Chabloz’. That of course is why the CPS was dragging its feet despite the political pressure the CAA was able to exert (as witnessed by its privileged ACC access), until the CAA strong-armed them by initiating a private prosecution.

    Don’t be silly. It clearly isn’t just lip service. It is Britain’s foremost effort.

    Furthermore, they’ve specifically defended Chabloz before.
    …..
    Is an article with the title “Don’t censor anti-Semites” not explicit enough for you?

    It’s precisely lipservice, since they failed to act when action became necessary if they were to be taken seriously.

    The reality is that if Chabloz had been a rap “artist” singing profoundly “offensive” songs about whites, and was prosecuted for uploading a song to the internet, we’d never have heard the last of it and hypocrites like Shami Chakrabarti and Spiked would have been “bravely” leading the charge and declaring their backing for all the luvvies chaining themselves to the court railings in “resistance”.

    I know it and you know it, and if you deny it we will both know you are lying.

    PS Here is how political prisoners are treated in the UK now:

    The leader of far-Right group Britain First has been been attacked in prison just a week after he was jailed for abusing Muslims – leaving him with a broken nose.

    Paul Golding, 36, was beaten up by two inmates at HMP Elmley on the Isle of Sheppey in Kent.

    Police are investigating the incident, which took place on Wednesday. The far-Right activist’s nose was said to have been broken in the attack.“

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  183. @Thomm

    You do have a partial point comparing Black crybabies and White Nationalists though, at times some of them seem hilariously alike, although on the surface only.

    But if you had half a functioning brain, you’d understand it is one thing to complain about Jewish influencers and Jewish organized groups of pressure lobbying for ethnocentric policies that benefit Jews but are detrimental to the rest of the population – including blacks – such as open borders, multiculturalism, wars against the enemies of Israel in the ME, attacks on freedom of speech through hate speech laws, attacks on the right to bear arms through gun control laws, and the pushing for affirmative action and quotas, for which they then “cease” to be Jews and conveniently become Whites, cleverly allowing themselves to be overrepresented among college admissions , management and executive positions through the canard of “meritocracy” … and a completely diferent thing to complain about ridiculous, nowhere-to-be-found “institutional racism” and “White privilege”.

    The former issues, though highly controversial, have a factual basis, unlike imagined “institutional racism” and “White privilege” which is what most Black, Brown and White crybaby SJWs are complaining about.

    So no, no “Wiggers” around dimwit. False analogy.

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  184. utu says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The issue is the degree of immunity to HIV and its connection to Black Death. Why Ashkenazi have the highest rate of this immunity?

    This takes us back to Middle Ages and the accusations that Jews were spreading Black Death of which they were convicted many times by courts.

    The reason we do not consider that those courts were fair and competent to establish guilt is because the same or similar courts also convicted witches. The non existence of witches suppose to absolve the Jews.

    But this was before we learned about Ashkenazis’ anomalously high immunity to HIV. Perhaps the proceeding of the courts deserve a second look. And ignore the witches.

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  185. utu says:
    @Joe Correa

    Ignore him. He is Indian troll. Talking about low IQ whites is his only schtick.

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  186. AaronB says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Oh, you mean like breaking down doors to assault terrified starlets that find you disgusting despite all your wealth and power :)

    One of the most remarkable things about the Jewish elite is that it must be the first in history where all that money and power hasn’t elevated your sexual status. I mean top Hollywood moguls having to force themselves on starlets! The starlets should be tripping all over themselves.

    In Thailand, the sexiest guys are nerdy, pale Chinese guys with glasses, and I think that’s true in much of SEA.

    I’m actually seriously curious about it because it’s so historically unprecedented – why aren’t Jews considered sexy with all that wealth and power? How has that failed to translate into elevated sexual status? I have a theory that it’s because people know deep down there’s something “off” about Jewish succes, that it’s not real. But I think it also has to do with the fact that Jewish culture has become so deficient in charm and refinement, as I was explain it to my good friend Tyrion2 earlier, whereas Chinese culture can be very aesthetic.

    What do you think? At any rate, it’s a remarkable fact worth thinking about. Maybe not the most significant aspect of the JQ, but I’m glad you touched on it. There’s certainly some deeper significance here.

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  187. lavoisier says: • Website
    @AaronB

    Plus, Jewish dominance is most extreme at medium IQ level proffessions like Hollywood, media, lawyering etc. No need for geniuses there, and the lopsided skew in favor of whites is even more extreme on these levels.

    Indeed. Does anyone really believe you need an IQ greater than 140 to work as a journalist writing for the New York Times or reporting the news?

    I completely agree that there is no realistic IQ distribution that could account for Jewish dominance in virtually all aspects of our society. But I do believe that, on average, they may be smarter.

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  188. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    I suspect I have a better understanding than you, unless you work in the law. The point is that it’s easy to start a private prosecution, but not easy to sustain it. In many cases (other than authorised quasi-state prosecutions such as those by organisations like the RSPCA) they are taken over by the CPS and shut down as frivolous or as not in the public interest. You need big money to pursue a prosecution that is defended (even with volunteer ethnic barristers and solicitors, as the CAA can call on), and you need strong political influence o get the CPS to take over a prosecution they themselves had been refusing to initiate.

    If you had strong political influence, you would have had CPS initiate the prosecution in the first place.

    (as witnessed by its privileged ACC access)

    Getting half an hour to whinge to an ACC does not require privilege.

    It’s precisely lipservice, since they failed to act when action became necessary if they were to be taken seriously

    They acted once for Chabloz. How many times do they need to focus just on such an inconsequential figure.

    I apologise for confusing the number of hate speech prosecutions with the 15,000 hate crime prosecutions a year. I need to look up everything you bring up to confirm or deny it and it is time intensive.

    Regardless, there’s got to be a ton of prosecutions for hate speech a year. Probably more than articles written by Spiked. I think she has had her fair share.

    The reality is that if Chabloz had been a rap “artist” singing profoundly “offensive” songs about whites, and was prosecuted for uploading a song to the internet, we’d never have heard the last of it and hypocrites like Shami Chakrabarti and Spiked would have been “bravely” leading the charge and declaring their backing for all the luvvies chaining themselves to the court railings in “resistance”.

    Actually, here’s an article from a Jew at Spiked defending another anti-Semite for similar nonsense that was prosecuted as hate speech.

    N.B Shami Chakrabati is a charlatan, but not Jewish. You do realise that?

    Also, of course black people have more protections under the law than white people in Britain. It is no secret. It is published and boasted about by the goverment, the BBC and most societal institutions.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/we-must-defend-free-speech-even-for-anti-semites/19111

    PS Here is how political prisoners are treated in the UK now

    It is disgusting. Not sure it is on topic though. The poor bloke seems to quite like Jews. If only we controlled the country, this wouldn’t happen.

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  189. Talha says:
    @Randal

    crackdowns on islamophobia

    “Islamophobia” is a stupid term that should be derided; whining is not part of traditional Muslim discourse. It is beneath Muslims to shame people for not liking them or begging for acceptance as the brilliant Dr. Shadee Elmasry explains:

    Peace

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  190. Thomm says:
    @Joe Correa

    So no, no “Wiggers” around dimwit. False analogy.

    No, it is an accurate analogy, for reasons explained before (victim-based worldview, low IQ, high tolerance for female obesity, etc.). Whites who have more in common with blacks than with successful whites, are wiggers (utu is dumb and cowardly even by Wigger standards).

    Now, coming back to Jews.

    The criticism that White Trashionalists have for Jews has very weak data to back it up. You are effectively saying that 2% of the US population controls everything. This is even more stark when you see that Jews are just 0.3% of the World’s population.

    Jews are just where White Trashionalists channel their self-loathing.

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  191. Tyrion 2 says:

    Not unattractive people such as Marilyn Monroe, Daniel Craig, Kevin Bacon, Zooey Deschanel, Drew Barrymoore, Isla Fisher and Ivanka Trump all seem to disagree with you. You must quite a looker to favourably compare yourself with the above AaronB!

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  192. Old Jew says:
    @Ron Unz

    Dear Mr. Unz,

    One of my hobbies is Jewish Genealogy.

    I looked up the entry for “Unz” in

    A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia
    by Alexander Beider

    It says:

    Unz means in English “ounce” (a weight unit).

    The name is most frequent in Lvov (Lemberg), Stanislaw, and Brody)

    Galicia was part of the Austrian Empire. The official languages were Polish and Ruthenian besides German, the imperial language.

    Lemberg (now Lviv in the Ukraine) had by far the largest Jewish population.

    Is it likely that your father’s family originated from Galicia?

    Are you in any way interested in the ways and history of the Galitzianer Yidden?

    sf

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  193. Art says:

    Here is what the Big Jew intellectuals do to a culture. The smartest Jew tribesmen are predatory and destructive of other cultures. The problem is that the not so smart Little Jews back them up. (Examples little ones: Anomaly and Cofnas)

    Before Hitler Came: How the Germans Went Crazy for Sex

    The 22-minute video featured below is based on Lasha Darkmoon’s September 2013 article The Sexual Decadence of Weimar Germany.

    ¶ . . . NO account of the Jewish Question in Germany can be complete without some mention of the tidal wave of sexual immorality that was to engulf the country during the period of the Weimar Republic (1919-1933) following World War One. This also happened to be the apogee of Jewish power in Germany. Every single sphere of major influence had now fallen under Jewish control.

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2018/before-hitler-came-how-the-germans-went-crazy-for-sex/

    Think Peace — Art

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  194. My brother is a garden variety California liberal. He is a public school administrator and most recently has worked as an alternative school principal in Northern California. He’s now in his early-60s and has a Master’s Degree in Education (B.A. in Crim Justice). He watches CNN; makes fun of Fox News etc. I learned recently that he doesn’t really know what a jew is. He just sees them as other white people. A couple of months ago, we were together watching CNN and the entire panel–6 out of 6 people–was jewish. I pointed this out to him, and told him it’s usually just 4 or 5 out of 6. He didn’t know that any of them were jewish, or that jews make up only 2% of the US population. What are the odds, I asked him. I also pointed out that none of these people were disagreeing with each other regarding the subject at hand—Trump and Russia. As Swift observed, you can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into. We are a largely brainwashed population who has accepted the picture of a world through largely jewish eyes. My brother is a perfect example. He doesn’t even understand the critique. Our predecessors—Kant, Voltaire, Henry Adams, Mencken, Eliot et al–knew better but jews through academia and publishing color even now we perceive our own history. People who are critical of jewish influence are all mouth-breathing rednecks, right? Just ask the pussy-hat brigade on twitter.

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  195. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Talha

    Dr Shadee Almasry seems like a Muslim who’s cottoned on to the fact that the ‘progressive’ left will only hug Muslims close as long as they prove useful for undermining/destroying (Western) civilisation. Worse, its a Faustian deal for Muslims as they’ll lose their soul in the process.

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  196. norm741 says:
    @TheDividualist

    While the hyping of the Holocaust has has put a guilt trip on non Jews it also has increased fear among Jews.

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  197. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Tyrion2, don’t troll me. It may seem like a trivial point, but sometimes even small things can shed unexpected light on larger socio-political issues.

    I debated whether to publish that comment because I thought sensitive Jews like you might be hurt, and believe it or not I’m really not interested offending Jews, but really, we’re all adults here, and we should be able to put our emotions aside.

    Forget about the word “Jews” for a moment and look at the larger picture -isn’t it weird that a group that has accumulated so much wealth and power has not experienced an elevation in sexual status? It can’t be a physical thing cause pale bespectacled Chinese dudes in SEA have been elevated to the top of the sexual pyramid in their respective market-dominant countries.

    Wasn’t it that great Jew, Kissinger himself, who pungently observed that power is an aphrodisiac? So what gives?

    No, it’s just weird, and definitely carries some deeper socio-political meaning – but what? Serious question, Tyrion. What are your thoughts?

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  198. Karl says:
    @Anon

    34 Anon > Jews, overwhelmingly, eagerly support Jewish Zionism

    firstly, because it exists

    > Do they also so eagerly support White Zionism?

    you make some of that, and i’ll send a check

    how about you start with getting Ron Unz and iSteve to emigrate from Nueva Azteca?

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  199. AaronB says:
    @lavoisier

    But I do believe that, on average, they may be smarter.

    Yes, but as Ron Unz has observed, that’s largely a post-WW2 (IIRC) phenomenon. At any rate it’s surprisingly recent. Jewish IQs seem to have been no higher than whites in the recent past. I was quite surprised.

    Since IQ and motivation cannot be disambiguated, it’s hard to say how much of this is mere motivation.

    At any rate while intetesting, the fact remains that Jewish IQ at the moment, has a higher average than whites, but the math as you point out still doesn’t work.

    I’m quite happy to keep the argument within current IQ estimates, because it’s so devastating to the meritocracy myth.

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  200. Karl says:
    @joescomment

    113 joescomment > a descendant of Judah and not of his brothers. These I would call the Sephardic Jews

    i currently estimate that about half of “sephardic jews” are descended from folks who got the fuck out of Dodge when they saw the inevitabalilty of the fall of the Kingdom of Israel – not of Judea, which fell quite a bit later. Because there was less of value, to steal. Or to collect agricultural taxes from.

    Plus, holding the (erstwhile) Kingdom of Israel, already gave you your roads to Egypt, which was the real prize. And it gave you a decent Med port at the minor city (now known as ) Ceasaria

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  201. @mcohen

    To summarize. If you’re white, mcohen feels no kinship or connection with you as he does with fellow jews. If you’re white, and support open borders for the US and are ignorant or indifferent to israel’s borders, you’re one of the good ones.

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  202. AaronB says:
    @Art

    However, Art, it’s not clear what is cause and effect.

    General German decline and lassitude may have led to loose sexual morality, and the same factor may be responsible for Jews rising to the top.

    It’s unlikely Jews could have forced sexual looseness on a traditional German society – as always, it was probably opportunistically exploiting a pre-existing situation.

    Tactics don’t work in a vacuum – they are dictated by the peculiar weaknesses of those you seek to undermine.

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  203. Svigor says:

    For many on the alt-right, every grievance is, at root, about Jews. Andrew Anglin, host of the most popular alt-right/neo-Nazi website, explains: “the only thing in our movement that really matters [is] anti-Semitism.” If only the Jews were gone, he argues, the white race, freed from bondage, would immediately overcome all of its problems. Where does this attitude come from?

    You should probably source that quote, so we can get the context for ourselves.

    For every Jew, every grievance against them is, at root, part of a great mass of mystical “anti-semitism” that blames everything on the Jews and has no basis in reason; every part of it is owed to jealousy over the Jews’ fabulousness.

    If you run into an asshole in the morning, you just ran into an asshole. If you run into an asshole everywhere you go, you are the asshole. Jews have been kicked out of how many countries in Europe, again?

    For many people throughout history, the answer to Twain’s question was simple: Jews conspire among themselves to dominate and disadvantage gentiles.

    Jews keep getting themselves into trouble, would be a better way of putting it. E.g., much of my problem with Jews is their creation of and support for harmful political ideas (the fact that these ideas somehow don’t hold sway in their country, where they are dominant, doesn’t help matters).

    To understand the alt-right’s anti-Semitism, we must understand MacDonald’s ideas, particularly as outlined in his most influential book, The Culture of Critique.

    Oh boy, here we go.

    They attack white nationalism while promoting Jewish nationalism, and use pseudoscience to pathologize “anti-Semitism,” which in reality is a justified response to Jewish aggression.

    FIFY.

    MacDonald’s theory and the anti-Semitism of many on the alt-right are largely reactions to the perceived liberalism of Jews. One of us (Cofnas) has just published an academic paper that examines MacDonald’s most influential book, The Culture of Critique, and finds that it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history. MacDonald and the alt-righters are, nevertheless, correct that many liberal leaders over the last hundred years have been Jewish. We’d like to offer an explanation for this phenomenon, as well as determine whether Jewish liberalism is the cause or the result of anti-Semitism.

    Took you guys long enough. CoC was published in 1998. I stopped waiting for the rigorous Jewish response many years ago. I’m gonna go way out on a limb here and suppose that the rigor isn’t all that rigorous.

    MacDonald’s theory and the anti-Semitism of many on the alt-right are largely reactions to the perceived liberalism of Jews.

    “The perceived liberalism of Jews,” lol. Yes, and no. The Jewish Supremacism of the Jews, would be more accurate. That means “what’s good for the Jews” uber alles, and what’s good for the Jews varies widely by circumstances. Hence the overwhelming majority of American Jewry voting for Democrats for President every four years, but Israeli Jewry going in a very different direction. Meanwhile the two groups are bosom buddies. Israeli Jewry, despite being far to the right of the GOP in terms of policy, are openly partnered with “leftist” American Jewry.

    We’d like to offer an explanation for this phenomenon, as well as determine whether Jewish liberalism is the cause or the result of anti-Semitism.

    I don’t give a shit. I give no more of a shit about this than I do about the excuses for black crime and low performance. Jewish and black malfeasance are persistent. They’re not going to change any time soon, so there’s no point to entertaining unfalsifiable rationalizations.

    I’m at the point of “irreconcilable differences” with both groups, and am no longer interested in healing the breach – an outcome I regard as impossible anyway.

    People who learned everything they know about history from MacDonald’s books

    Yeah, there’s a good start to a persuasive piece. How about this: go fuck yourself.

    Nice and direct, isn’t it?

    People who filter everything through a Jewish lens may be under the impression that everyone else is willing to do the same…

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  204. Svigor says:

    Hey philo-semitic guys, why are we having this conversation at Unz.com (pbu Unz, btw)? It’s a notorious den of anti-semites, didn’t you know? Why can’t we have this conversation at your house?

    Wait, your house is a censorious politically correct gulag where free speech isn’t tolerated? So the only place we can freely discuss the issue (and any other goddamn thing we please) is here, at anti-semite central?

    Do tell.

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  205. Tyrion 2 says:
    @AaronB

    It carries no meaning. It is inane. One short fat ugly Jew wanked into a plant pot sometimes and begged the most beautiful women in the world to watch him. The guy’s pathetic.

    I’ve also met plenty of equally pathetic, short, fat and ugly non-Jews. I daresay many of them frequent this site. Are you one?

    Fuethemore, not unattractive people such as Marilyn Monroe, Daniel Craig, Kevin Bacon, Zooey Deschanel, Drew Barrymoore, Isla Fisher and Ivanka Trump all chose to marry Jews. I guess they saw them just as other people…

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  206. Talha says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Bingo!

    If you have your ear to the ground in the Muslim community, there is a massive push back coming from the traditional Muslims like myself. I’m loving every moment of it. “Progressive Islam” is a gateway to atheism – once you go on that track. And that is what we are losing many of our youth to right now.

    It is super dangerous. We just have to develop a thick skin and just deal with the fact that plenty of people (especially those in power) will simply not accept an Islam that does not compromise on its principles. Plenty of others are looking for something that refuses to bend the knee to Post-modernism – like this brother:

    http://moderndross.com/

    It’s OK, all this is expected – all part of the test; Paradise is not free.

    Peace.

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  207. AaronB says:
    @Tyrion 2

    So basically a rather small percentage of people who work in an industry that is over 50% percent Jewish hooked up with Jews, is what you’re saying.

    Anyways, it doesn’t look like you’re interested in analyzing what can really be a watershed in our understanding of the JQ and it’s larger socio-political ramifications, so I’ll leave off.

    Oh, and don’t be shy Tyrion. You can address me directly. No need to answer me while pretending to make a general comment.

    For the record, I also hugely support Jews interamarrying with gentiles at whatever percentages. It’s a very good thing for everyone – we want you guys back in the human race.

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  208. Rich says:

    For the one million and first time, there is no test, anywhere that I can find, that shows Ashkenazi IQ’s being higher than any other European people. This myth is so ingrained, that every writer brings it up. Richard Lynne estimates Ashkenazi IQ based on their success, though there may be many other reasons for their success. Produce the test that that Ashkenazi IQ scores and we can argue over that. Until then, we have to accept the Israeli military test that shows Jewish IQ, including Ashkenazi, to be around 95.

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  209. @Tyrion 2

    You are of course kidding. The Constitution of the US is for citizens of the United States. It was not intended for french, german, irish, Yemenis, poles, vietnamese, new zealanders or mexicans. We are
    more than gracious to those visiting the US even when they violate our laws.

    And we are exceedingly generous to mexicans who abuse that generosity beyond measure and breaking point. Its best they go home and don’t look back. We have some issues to mange that neither invites or requires their presence.

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  210. mitch says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    Before we start going around killing people…. perhaps I should go have a talk with Herr FrankenSTEIN !!!

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  211. Svigor says:

    People who learned everything they know about history from MacDonald’s books may be under the impression that traditional gentile society was marked by “hierarchic harmony” (his term) before Jews began their intellectual assault after the Enlightenment. This is a gross distortion of history

    What is a gross distortion of history? You quoted two friggin words, it isn’t even a sentence. Where’s the quote to expand on what MacDonald meant by the term? Your dog ate it? No space restrictions here, guys. It’s the 21st century internet. Grandpa called, he wants his methods back.

    (MacDonald does not mention that, incidentally, many of the Frankfurt School’s fiercest critics were Jews, like Karl Popper, who mocked their work as pseudoscience.)

    Jews are pretty well in lockstep when it comes to opposing Whites having for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel. Not many fierce Jewish critics of that monolithic policy.

    Which is no more here or there than Popper’s criticism; if there were such fierce Jewish critics, they’d be drowned out or made pariahs (at best) by the huge Zionist cultural war machine.

    But it also reflects the fact that, while the gentile Foucault was influenced by the Frankfurt School, he was independently thinking along the same tracks.

    It also reflects the fact that Jews tailor their subversive movements to suit their audiences. Quelle surprise!

    Even if liberalism is not the Jewish invention that MacDonald claims it is, we still should explain why Jews appear to be disproportionately attracted to it. And is anti-Semitism a response to Jewish liberalism?—or could it be the other way around?

    Who gives a shit? The whole conversation is a fig leaf for a Jewish pattern of behavior that pursues a goal that does not change; “good for the Jews.”

    America has, historically speaking, no history of anti-semitism. America crossed the Atlantic to invade Europe and defeat the Nazi regime, but we get treated to the Jews’ philo-semitic aggression and oppression just the same.

    Social scientists have found that Ashkenazi Jews score, on average, around 110-112 on IQ tests (compared to a mean of 100).

    Some of them. IIRC, that figure does not include Israeli Ashenazi Jews, despite the fact that a sizeable number live in Israel (and their mean IQ is 104, again IIRC).

    Prohibited from entering many blue-collar occupations like farming, Jews turned to finance, particularly money lending, to survive.

    This is a lie. Jews were not “prohibited” from becoming peasants, except by Jews themselves. Since you guys are ostensibly wondering about sources of anti-semitism, you can start by constantly saying things that insult the intelligence of your readers, things like, “we were forced into banking, even though we just wanted to farm.”

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  212. Svigor says:

    We need to add an element to this discourse. Instead of saying Jewish liberalism is a reaction to persecutions, one could argue it is an OVERreaction to persecutions. I don’t have the link at hand but I think it was Sailer who wrote about Ashkenazim having the “worrier gene”, that is, predisposition to neuroticism and anxiety. Indeed, it is often said that psychiatry was invented by Austrian Jews in order to try to fix the neuroticism in their community or family. Gavin MacInnes wrote he knows very smart Jewish intellectuals who seriously fear Trump would gas them – even though all of Trumps children married Jews, really, if someone has “genetic skin in the game” in not harming Jews, it is Trump.

    Jews love being the center of attention and dominating the conversation. That’s at least as plausible a motive for their drama queen routine as any genuine concern on their part. Personally, I think that to a considerable extent they approach the whole thing like a game, as theater for the Goyim. Whites then project themselves onto Jews and assume Jews would never be such drama queens, because most NW Euro people never would, so Jewish neuroticism must be genuinely-held. It’s a flawed assumption, IMO.

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  213. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    If you had strong political influence, you would have had CPS initiate the prosecution in the first place.

    That sounds rather familiar – oh yes, it’s your standard response to examples of jewish “influence”, which amounts to: “look, here’s something jewish lobbyists didn’t manage to swing completely their way, so you must be wrong that jewish lobbies wield undue influence”.

    Getting half an hour to whinge to an ACC does not require privilege.

    LOL! That’s right, they’re all just sitting around waiting for any Tom, Dick or Harry to rant to them about his personal betes noires and how they oughtta be locked up. Do you have any idea how important ACC’s think they are? It’s not as though there’s one on every street corner, either – there are only 21 in the entire country of 65 million people.

    They acted once for Chabloz. How many times do they need to focus just on such an inconsequential figure.

    They reported on the fact that she had been excluded from the Edinburgh Festival, because they recognised that such persecution for political opinions was significant enough to mention. Oddly enough, once she was actually being prosecuted by a jewish activist group in an unprecedented trial, she became uninteresting to them.

    I apologise for confusing the number of hate speech prosecutions with the 15,000 hate crime prosecutions a year. I need to look up everything you bring up to confirm or deny it and it is time intensive.

    Likewise, you keep forcing me to check things I knew and wrote about years ago. Such as the Spiked articles you linked which I both read on their website and commented on subsequently when I repeatedly drew attention in their comments pages to their refusal to act on the Chabloz case. That was why in the end I stopped reading Spiked, by the way. [In fact I commented extensively below that very piece, though at that stage it was fairly early on and I was mostly arguing in general terms. Amusing to note that they've subsequently censored - leaving a big white gap - whatever example I gave of some politically correct authorised offensiveness. Some free speech outlet they are! It wasn't immediately censored or I'd have noticed and commented on it, and now I can't remember what it was.]

    It’s tiresome and annoying, but it keeps us on our toes. Ain’t free speech a great thing?

    Regardless, there’s got to be a ton of prosecutions for hate speech a year. Probably more than articles written by Spiked. I think she has had her fair share.

    No there were only tiny numbers of them that did not involve direct threats and harassment and the like, up until very recently (the past year or two, for which figures were not easy to obtain when last I looked), and as I noted Chabloz is almost unique (in fact might well still be actually unique) as being a prosecution under the Communications Act “grossly offensive” provisions for a mere uploading of abstract commentary – in this case a song.

    If the CAA are successful in getting a conviction, they will undoubtedly try to get Holocaust Denial law into force in this country via this back door, and will also threaten people like me on the basis that what I write is “grossly offensive” to them, as they or their fellow travellers have told me on a number of occasions.

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  214. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I feel like writing a response titled, What Jews Get Wrong About What the Alt-Right Gets Wrong About Jews but I’m too busy, so I’ll simply address one minor point which rather reflects the sloppy nature of this jejeune critique.

    Jews have comprised more than half of all world chess champions..

    If we stick to the generally accepted tradition of world champions, they number 16, from Steinitz to Carlsen. Steinitz, Lasker, Botvinnik, Tal, Fischer and Kasparov are generally considered to be of Jewish heritage. Claims have been made for Smyslov and Spassky, though both seem to have identified as Russian Orthodox.

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  215. dahoit says:
    @seanmcbride

    The answer is Jewish?I’m surprised at your question,Sean Mcbride.

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  216. Wally says:
    @Liberty Mike

    I don’t believe you. No one believes hasbarists.

    All of my school chums who married Jews now have ‘Jewish’ kids.

    They get more free, unearned stuff that way.

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  217. @AaronB

    This my appear to be a trivial point, but I couldn’t help but give your analysis some nuance:

    Richard Millhouse Nixon was quite envious of Henry Kissinger’s sex appeal.

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  218. Randal says:
    @Talha

    Dr. Shadee Elmasry makes an excellent case in the piece you linked.

    As he says, we (muslims or not) should not need people to like us, or to be forced to pretend to like us. It is enough that we have physical security and that people obey the law in respect of assaults etc. (He did not say the latter but it seems a reasonable extrapolation).

    It’s slightly different for jewish groups, though, who generally are broadly of the political left and have no great difficulty in reciprocally supporting causes like “anti-homophobia” (though clearly some will). The lesson that the jewish groups pursuing “Holocaust denial” and “anti-Semitic hate speech” laws fail to grasp is that by persecuting people for expressing opinions they generate hatred against themselves, and they gain nothing of long term value.

    In the end, it will likely finish as similar hate speech laws in Weimar finished.

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  219. Randal says:
    @Svigor

    Touche!

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  220. Tyrion 2 says:

    Why did you ignore my point about the Bonehill bloke?

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  221. Svigor says:

    (Start by not routinely saying things that insult our intelligence, obviously.)

    Finance requires a relatively high level of verbal and mathematical intelligence, and the hypothesis is that Jews who could not cut it in business tended to drop out of the community or starve.

    Maybe finance requires a high level of assholery, too, and the hypothesis should be that those who weren’t big enough assholes to be shylocks dropped out of the community and left Jewish evolution to the assholes.

    On Cochran, Hardy, and Harpending’s thesis, these restrictive conditions selected for verbal and mathematical intelligence, not for the ability to engage in the sort of conspiracy against gentiles described by MacDonald.

    Citation needed.

    By the way, cartels are a great way to do business, if you can get away with it.

    Indeed, MacDonald and other anti-Semites largely ignore the fact that Jews have been conspicuously overrepresented among the leadership of all sorts of right-wing movements

    All except the kind that involve acknowledging and protecting the right of Western populations to have for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel. Curiously, Jews are absent. You’d think that Zionists would want to validate and universalize their world view…You’d think that diaspora Jews, as ruled by Zionism as they are, and with those big ole’ brains, would be all over this…

    and Donald Trump’s senior policy advisor and perhaps the most influential anti-immigration activist in the United States, Stephen Miller.

    Every time I talk about immigration patriots, some Jewish man got to bring up Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller! Stephen Miller! Dass dey one! Dass dey one! (Apologies to Eddie Murphy) I love Stephen Miller, but that is one lonely-ass Jew. You might as well use Kevin Kostner’s character in Dances With Wolves to draw conclusions about Whites in general.

    But MacDonald seems to be right that Jews were disproportionately involved in radical leftist political movements in the twentieth century, and in the US Jews tend to vote Democrat.

    (MacDonald does not mention that, incidentally, many of the Frankfurt School’s fiercest critics were Jews, like Karl Popper, who mocked their work as pseudoscience.)

    The authors do not cite any actual numbers for the Jewish tendency they mention. 55% is a “tendency,” 70-75% is more like a “lockdown.” Whites are quite different, much more split down the middle. Jews vote more like Blacks.

    We think this can be explained by the high average IQ of Jews in combination with their being a persecuted minority, which has tended to push them toward political views that emphasize social toleration and the free movement of people. In other words, MacDonald reverses the correct order of causation: rather than Jews inviting persecution by advocating cosmopolitan policies that thwart the interests of Europeans, Jews advocated cosmopolitanism as a predictable response to persecution.

    I think I understand why you guys published here. You’re starving for real critique, and you can’t get it anywhere else.

    Otherwise, how to explain how you keep blundering about like this? You never get to actually spar. Here, try this:

    Jews run Israel, you dope. They can do whatever they want in their country, and they do the opposite of what you describe. It puts the lie to this not-even-specious argument.

    Jews gravitate toward whatever’s good for the Jews; Jewish Supremacy. In the diaspora, this means pseudo-leftism (it’s obviously phony; right-wing Israeli Jewry is their BFF). In Israel, this means ethnonationalism.

    Persecution of Jews began for religious reasons in the Middle Ages and morphed into political persecution as Jews began to climb the social ladder, and political leaders saw them as a useful out-group to use as a scapegoat for people’s economic and social woes.

    More lies. Jews were medieval bailiffs, tax-farmers, usurers, and all-around exploiters. That’s their history. Speaking shorthand, they sought and received the exploitation contracts from monarchs. They did a better job of squeezing every last cent out of the commoners because they had less sympathy for them (Jews are ethnocentric) than the natives did.

    Step out of the Jewish intellectual ghetto and read some actual history, why don’t you?

    For example, when Italian traders inadvertently brought the Black Plague from Asia to Europe, thousands of Jews were murdered in retaliation when Christian peasants decided that the Jews had deliberately infected them.

    Sometimes the straw that broke the camel’s back isn’t the same as the other zillion straws weighing it down. Sometimes flashpoints are over things that look silly to us in retrospect, but reflect real conflicts not so easily dismissed.

    Jews give Whites plenty of reasons to suspect them of such foul play, by the way. Just look at their holidays, and the Jewish Black Ops/slaughter of gentiles they tend to celebrate.

    George Orwell understood the psychological benefits of directing disdain toward an out-group in order to foster social cohesion among an in-group. In his great novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four, he gives the character who would receive “two minutes of hate” every day among the proletarians a Jewish name: Goldstein. It is obvious why. Orwell’s implication was that the Soviet Union and other regimes were capitalizing on a human need to have some group to hate in order to foster loyalty and obedience to the leader of the in-group.

    Meanwhile, American Jews are using 1984 like an instruction manual.

    The rest of this piece was TL;DR for now. If there’s been no meat by that point in the sandwich, there probably isn’t going to be any.

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  222. Randal says:
    @Talha

    “Progressive Islam” is a gateway to atheism – once you go on that track. And that is what we are losing many of our youth to right now.

    It is super dangerous. We just have to develop a thick skin and just deal with the fact that plenty of people (especially those in power) will simply not accept an Islam that does not compromise on its principles. Plenty of others are looking for something that refuses to bend the knee to Post-modernism

    As indeed is “progressive” (ie mainstream) Christianity a gateway to functional atheism. That might not be a problem in itself, but on the way they push mass immigration, antiracist dogmas, homo-ism and politically correct nonsense of all kinds on us and upon our societies.

    If you have your ear to the ground in the Muslim community, there is a massive push back coming from the traditional Muslims like myself.

    Sadly there seems to be little or no effective pushback from Christians.

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  223. Ive been pro white, [actually also pro sane people] and vote “Right wing” all my life. (As much as the GOP can be right wing, which is a laugh..)

    I grew up in a right-wing family with big military brass.

    Communism, Progressivism, Liberalism, Leftism, Socialism is a foreign ideology and I cant ever embrace it. Its just against the nation.

    I am not the ONLY right wing Jew out there as this post mentions. There are a lot of us out there.. Problem is: Right wing Jewish blogs, sites, etc get banned, tagged by google as ‘racist’. Kept out of stat counters, you name it.

    I find it very taxing when my right wing op seems to make lots of ‘alt righters’ cry like little babies. Truly, many alt righters are just former Leftists with all the trappings of the SJW mindset.

    I would be with the alt right and support them if many of them didnt act like babies.

    Person above says that “Jews like dominating the convo”. No, they just have the biggest mouths at the worst times.

    “Goyim” is not a bad word, btw, Svigor. But, if you want to feel like you’re some type slave, oppressed by Jews and ONLY Jews, knock your socks off.

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  224. @Rich

    I’ve heard these objections before & don’t know what to think of them. Perhaps IQ is overrated?

    After all, these tests do not separate algebraic from spatial intelligence, and even verbal part could be subdivided. Plus- there are no tests for motivation, creativity, innovation, critical thinking, thinking “outside of box”, etc.

    With regard to Israel, I would say that what matters are Israeli accomplishments in many sci-tech areas:

    https://www.israel21c.org/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/

    https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries.html

    Average Mongol IQ is definitely higher than Israeli. So…..?

    https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country/mn-mongolia

    Mongolian IQ: 101
    Rank: 6th

    https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country/il-israel

    Israeli IQ: 95
    Rank: 12th

    Perhaps all IQ jazz is no more than a hype re human accomplishment.

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  225. Karl says:
    @Talha

    206 Talha > traditional Muslims like myself

    if you actually were, you’d be busy arranging places in the Ummah for the ” Rohingya” to emigrate to

    People didn’t BELIEVE me when I said that Rakhine was the follow-up to the re-conquista of Spain.

    Jerusalem is next, shipmate.

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  226. Tyrion 2 says:

    KMac’s theory is a nursery rhyme for simpletons. His maximalist position is nonsense and wilts instantly under examination so he quickly folds into his minimalist position – that Jews are ‘overrepresented’ and that there’ve been Jews who did bad stuff – which is uncontroversial – so he begs you to disagree. Yet when you don’t he claims victory for his maximalist position. It is a boring shtick from a bitter old man who miscalculated when sociopathically chasing fame.

    I still disagree with his treatment but it seems to me that it couldn’t happen to a more disingenous person.

    Old MacDonald had a book
    Zee i Zee i o
    And in his book he blamed the Jews
    Zee i Zee i o
    With a Joo-Joo here
    And a Joo-Joo there
    Here a Joo, there a Joo
    Everywhere a Joo-Joo
    Old MacDonald had a book
    Zee i Zee i o.

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  227. AaronB says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Tyrion, I explicitly said – explicitly – that it can’t possibly have anything to do with whether Jews are physically attractive or not.

    If that was it, it wouldnt be a puzzle, and would have no socio-political ramifications.

    You’re reading your own personal preoccupations into this.

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  228. Svigor says:

    According to MacDonald, Joyce, Anglin, lots of random Twitter accounts with Groyper/Pepe/anime avatars, and so on, Jews are an extremely ethno-centric group who constantly collude, consciously or not, to advance their own interests at the expense of Gentiles. Furthermore, Jews see themselves as non-white, though they lie about this to Gentiles for nefarious purposes. (Remember, this is completely different from when @fashy_pepe88 describes himself as “white” in one tweet about American demographics and “Italian” in another about Meds vs. Nords.)

    Jews are a lot more ethnocentric than NW Euro populations, yes.

    However, according to relatively recent numbers from Pew, the Jewish outmarriage rate is 58% overall, and 70% for non-Orthodox Jews (who are the vast majority of influential Jews in media, finance, academia, et cetera.) Furthermore, non-Orthodox Jews have fertility rates below the 2.1 replacement threshold.

    I’ve been over this a billion fucking times (I know where the conversation is going as soon as that in-itself-Jewish-particularist word, “intermarriage” crops up), so I have little patience for recapitulation. Use the search function here and search for my comments about intermarriage, you’ll be disabused of the “intermarriage shows Jews aren’t ethnocentric” nonsense (if you’re not Jewish; if you’re Jewish you’ll just pretend not to have read my comments and make the same “intermarriage shows bla bla bla” argument you were already making).

    “Jews like Noam Chomsky are the world’s leading critics of Israel.”

    Are you kidding me? A sentence like this shows either gross stupidity or deliberate subterfuge.

    No, he’s not kidding. For many Jews, the leading critic of [topic here] is always a Jew; “Jewish” is a requirement in a leading critic. This certainly applies on the topic of Israel – non-Jewish critics of Israel are “ANTISEMITES!!!” and thus disqualified. So yes, in this Talmudic milieu, obviously all the leading critics of Israel are Jews or their closely-held pets.

    I have my doubts that some of the historical points are right. This means that we would also have to discuss the conclusions. I have read that Jews left traditional professions long before they were fobidden to work on them. They didn’t become lawyers and money lenders after they were forbidden to have land.

    A couple of facts about medieval Europe, broadly speaking: NOBODY was allowed to have land. Just the nobility, the Church, etc. The overwhelming majority of farmers were peasants or serfs who WORKED THE NOBILITY’S LANDS AND PAID THE RENT WITH THE PROCEEDS. Anybody who knows ANYTHING about Jews knows they aren’t looking to cut in on that action. Not on the FARMERS’ end of the deal, anyway. No, Jews are upset because they weren’t allowed to cut in on the NOBILITY’S end of the action. They were prohibited from buying their way into European landowning classes (THE NOBILITY) and were “forced” into other forms of rent-seeking.

    Boo…fucking…hoo. Here’s the world’s smallest violin, playing just for the frustrated Jewish slumlords/exploiters/rent-seekers.

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  229. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Why did you ignore my point about the Bonehill bloke?

    It was covered adequately by what I wrote as far as I’m concerned. He was convicted (on that occasion) for racially aggravated harassment, by the way.

    If you want my guess, they defended Bonehill-Paine because they knew he was a very unattractive figure to non-jews, whose crime was objectively unpleasant (personal harassment). The article in question was also published after conviction, when it could do him no possible good. The reason they chose not to defend Chabloz when she was prosecuted was that they either themselves (the jewish and philo-semitic ones) or some of their big backers found her content offensive but they feared it would not be offensive enough to ordinary people and a campaign might actually force the prosecution to be dropped. Actually getting a nasty anti-Semite off the hook and damaging the campaign to outlaw stuff jewish groups hate would have been a step too far for them.

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  230. @Rich

    For the one million and first time, there is no test, anywhere that I can find, that shows Ashkenazi IQ’s being higher than any other European people.

    When I read that in the article, I knew you’d be triggered. Even if there do exist such studies, you’re right to be asking for them. But I go further and claim the lack of specificity about what defines a Jew renders most of the discussion moot for anything but rhetorical purposes.

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  231. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Doug,

    Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is 1.0 Standard Deviations above white gentile average.**

    Will you please cite all of the *primary* research you source, in a non-cherry-picked manner, that demonstrates that Ashkenazi IQ is 1 standard deviation above the white Gentile mean? Thanks.

    The sample size is small, but according to these studies of Jewish brain size by Maurice Fishberg, their brains are about 2 cubic inches smaller than white Gentile brains.

    ** (Most experts I’ve seen settle on an average around 111, not 115) Also, I’ve not been able to find any studies from the last 10 years. Those would be nice if you could find them, if they exist. (preferably at least last 20 years)

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  232. Talha says:
    @Karl

    Not really. I don’t have much of a say what happens on the border of Bangladesh and Burma. I do however have a say in the trajectory of Islam and the Muslim community in the US.

    Jerusalem is next, shipmate

    As I’ve said before, I’m all for sharing sovereignty between Jews, Christians and Muslims and making it an international city. But yeah, if Israel wants to block us and take sovereignty for the holy city to itself – you better believe it’s on the list.

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  233. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    @One wonders why they’re not doing something useful such as soliciting shekels for yet another holocaust monument or museum.

    Another?!? I think they have to try another schtick, people are bored beyond tears with that 19th century monster, — you know, the Hitler guy. Nowadays, there are much more colorful victims around, like the courageous transgenders or the long suffering actresses in search of an Oscar. The charm of novelty counts for much in our sensationalist age.

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  234. @utu

    I’m picturing Apu’s bald fat brother from the Simpsons.

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  235. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Doug,

    Clarification 1: 111 assuming a 15 point standard deviation.
    Clarification 2: Studies that were *referenced* by Maurice Fishberg.

    The reason I mention the brain size data is because you were talking about the percentage of the population that are “genetically” Jewish, which implies that you believe the IQ difference to be genetic, when the evidence for the genetic hypothesis for Gentile Jew IQ differences is paltry (in contrast to the evidence for the genetic explanation for White Black and Asian IQ differences).

    * * *

    Jews: “The idea that there are race differences in IQ is a lie pushed by evil White supremacists.”Goyim: “I’m noticing a lot of Jewish influence in my society. How did it come about?”Jews: “We have a higher IQ than you.” pic.twitter.com/Mclflm1S6n— “AJ” Joyce (@TOQJoyce) March 11, 2018

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  236. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    One really great thing in American Jews favor is their creation of American comic books.

    Jack King Kirby (Kurtzberg?) is the best. Jack Kirby led a rathe stereotypical Jewish immigrant, lower East side of New York existence, but he never went in for bad Communist, Liberal Leftist politics.

    Jack Kirby was always pro American.

    Jack Kirby was – well. The King.

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  237. Olorin says:
    @mark green

    Well done, Mark.

    What the authors and many commenters seem to forget is that “the alt-right” was never a unitary cabal with an agenda to present a coherent intellectual, philosophical, economic, social, cultural, religious, and epistemological critique of Judaisms or Jews.

    “The alt-right”‘s job was to make it OK–by any means necessary–to Notice things about Jewish/Zionist culture, behavior, genetics, and nepotism. And to laugh about it as a way of liberating ourselves from the overweening super-seriousness demanded by The Biggest Victims In The History Of Ever (who somehow paradoxically have power all out of proportion to their numbers, while claiming to be oppressed and downtrodden).

    Back in I guess the 1970s someone asked Mel Brooks about The Producers. He said he thought that since Adolf Hitler was The Evillest Man In The History Of Ever in all universes, the best way to defeat him and all he stood for was with ridicule of both himself personally and all he believed.

    From there to caricaturing AH in the model of Allied propaganda was just a short step, and that is where we have found ourselves for half a century now. Once that battle was won, the humor was emptied out, and thus we have laws in dozens of nations outlawing and harshly punishing any questioning whatever of any iota of the authoritative “Holocaust” narrative. What was once humor is now Jews’ own secular religion imposed on us all.

    This is what “the alt-right” has done with Judaism and Jews, Zionism and Zionists. It has turned their ridicule–for so long focused on Germanic and Anglo-Saxon and Celtic and Scandinavian and founding stock American culture and people–back on themselves.

    “The alt-right” has made it OK to take a step back from all the constantly pushed buttons that Jews themselves installed in their American host community, mostly through ascendancy in and control of media and schooling.

    “The alt-right” has given everyone permission to laugh at it all rather than taking it as seriously as was once demanded…and that most of us were willing to do, out of our altruism.

    “The alt-right” has made it OK to see the humor in the constant attitude of victimization and to call out and refuse to march in lockstep to Jewish/Zionist/bolshie/SJW political correctness.

    And not a moment too soon, for the costs of extending our altruism and wanting to appear Nice are hitting home on all fronts.

    The authors of the above perspective springboard off of the fashionable rhetorical stance of picking on “the alt-right,” largely through strawmanning, and somewhat through the fallacy of misplaced concreteness. However “the alt-right” isn’t a movement. It isn’t a philosophy, political or otherwise. Like “the dissident right” in general, it’s a place to stand and start unpacking 60-80 years of programming and mass propaganda.

    That’s not just about Jews, as you note. But, predictably, Jews appear to be doing a good job of screeching the loudest about any challenge to their self-imagined authority to tell others what to think. Also to their apparent conviction that as famous cosmic uber-victims, they can ridicule anything and anyone, but no one dare get a laugh at their expense.

    At that level, “the alt-right” is more like an M.D. specializing in the mind and assigning a diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality or Borderline Personality disorders.

    Correction, more like a Monty Python character playing that M.D….and no less true for being funny.

    “Now I’m not saying a trip to our dairy will cure you, but it will give hundreds of lower-paid workers a laugh.”

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  238. Rich says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You make some very interesting points. I think IQ is somewhat important on an individual basis, but it really only takes one super smart guy, with some hard workers around him, to create a great product, or come up with a unique invention. Edison, for example, wasn’t surrounded by geniuses. Every group has its highly intelligent people, it’s how that group nurtures and supports its highly intelligent, giving them opportunities to succeed, encouraging their success, that probably has the most importance. We all know at least one determined person, who wasn’t the smartest student in school, who worked hard and made a success of himself. I wouldn’t dismiss IQ as an indicator of intelligence, but I wouldn’t make it the only factor in group or individual success, either.

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  239. @AaronB

    I, too have been having problems with this site. Even after not having commented for 12 hours I get the message to slow down.

    I even get that when I try to use the “Agree” button. There’s a “bug” somewhere.

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  240. Olorin says:
    @Tyrion 2

    You misspelled schtick.

    If you’re going to leave out the first c, you have to leave out the second.

    shtik (Yiddish שטיק )

    Other than that, you’re פול פון דרעק. But since you’re talking about barnyard animals, אַן אייזל דערקענט מען אין די לאַנגע אויערן, אַ נאַר אין דער לאַנגער צונג.

    But that’s okay, since even the worst silly-walks-inventors get a participation trophy in the Age of Snowflakes.

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  241. Svigor says:

    Drat, missed one closing tag. Apologies again:

    Here are some of my past comments about the “intermarriage” fig leaf (apologies in advance to the moderator; I finally got fed up with this stupid argument. If it helps, this is all cut and pasted from previously-moderated comments here, so there’s no need to read it; I add a short comment at the end):

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/jewish-country-club-might-blackball-obama/#comment-1724493

    P.S., there’s a lot of BS stats floating around about Jewish “intermarriage.” Hell, even the term “intermarriage” takes the racism to a whole new level; they see marrying “whites” as “marrying out.” Their level of “intermarriage” is lower than that of any other White group (Whites don’t think about how many French marry Irish, etc., don’t record the numbers, would look at you funny if you made a thing out of it), so obviously, they’re more “racist” in this way than any other Whites. You know, the Whites Jews are always accusing of racism.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/cathy-young-ann-coulter-is-anti-semitic-but-sabrina-rubin-erdely-couldnt-possibly-be-anti-gentilic/#comment-1417175

    Nah. 1. Jewish marriage habits are a lot more insular than than those of other white ethnic groups. French, Czech, Italian, Irish, etc…these groups do not even track so-called “intermarriage,” and the rates are much higher than for Jews. So Jewish marriage habits actually reveal particularism. 2. These much less particularist habits don’t stop (white) people from having animus against Irish, Italian, Czech, French, etc., ethnic groups, or constitute a valid defense for same.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/cathy-young-ann-coulter-is-anti-semitic-but-sabrina-rubin-erdely-couldnt-possibly-be-anti-gentilic/#comment-1417182

    It’s funny, but, the Jews’ frequent refrain of “look how often we’re intermarrying” actually reveals their particularism. Whites don’t notice so-called “intermarriage” at all. It’s their norm. They don’t even think to bring it up, and they don’t track its frequency (and if they do it’s usually on Jews’ behalf!). That this is not so for Jews reveals that they’re concerned about it in a way that whites are not.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/cathy-young-ann-coulter-is-anti-semitic-but-sabrina-rubin-erdely-couldnt-possibly-be-anti-gentilic/#comment-1417654

    Actually, that’s not true–whites definitely notice when a white person marries someone who isn’t white, and there are statistics on marriages between races. Even with Asians people joke about aspects of it like the differential gender intermarriage rates.

    Other white subgroups like Italian, Irish, etc. may not.

    Actually, it is. What Jews call “intermarriage” (white marrying white), whites call “marriage.” That’s the oranges to oranges comparison, and the one I was making. Interracial marriage and “intermarriage” are apples and oranges in this context.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/cathy-young-ann-coulter-is-anti-semitic-but-sabrina-rubin-erdely-couldnt-possibly-be-anti-gentilic/#comment-1418441

    How can so many people here, presumably with a straight face, accuse a group which currently has a 70% intermarriage rate of acting as an enthocentric block?

    Like I said, this figure is LOW. Most white ethnicities have “intermarriage” rates much higher than that. “Intermarriage” isn’t even a word for them. It’s totally not a thing. But it is for Jews, who keep close track of it, have groups and measures that work to counteract it, and activists who call it a “silent holocaust.” How does this not evidence particularism and ethnocentrism?

    You’ve just provided another data point; how many Irish even know what their “intermarriage” rate is? How many Irish will even know WTF you’re talking about when you ask about their “intermarriage” rate? There are many values you can substitute for “Irish” here.

    But Jews all seem to know their “intermarriage rate” (the Jewish interracial marriage rate, however, seems to be a state secret, and probably not because it makes them look honest in their supposed commitment to diversity and tolerance).

    I’m guessing that the Catholic Church has a pretty good idea on what % of American Catholics marry non-Catholics.

    True, but irrelevant. We’re talking ethnic groups. Isn’t it about time you guys started resisting the urge to be deceptive (at least, in such a blatantly transparent and insulting way)? It’s the current year. Time to get over your “the goyim will fall for anything” prejudice.

    To belabor the obvious: the “intermarriage” stats Jews keep include 100% irreligious Jews.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/blacks-hate-bernie/#comment-1340763

    Things have changed a lot in the non-Orthodox Jewish community. Many Reform rabbis now perform intermarriages. Conservative rabbis still won’t sanction intermarriages, but they no longer organize boycotts against shows that depict intermarriage or have actors of partial Jewish ancestry. Only the Orthodox maintain the same hardline stance.

    American Jews still make a great contrast to American Christians. Refusing to sanction marriages between Catholics and Protestants? Having anything at all negative (or even not-positive) to say about marriages between Catholics and Protestants? For church leaders? Waaaaay out there. Very, very fringy.

    Even having a household word for it, “intermarriage,” is weird.

    Getting away with it all with no opprobrium, while also being Apartheid Israel’s BFF? Priceless.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/ny-daily-news-s-b-victim-was-hate-filled-bigot-for-liking-hateful-ann-coulter/#comment-1253373

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

    Nice false distinction between French marrying Czechs, Russians marrying Brits, etc., and Jews marrying French, Czechs, Russians, Brits, etc.

    That’s what Jews refer to as “intermarriage”; Jews marrying whites (and other Jews occasionally sitting Shiva, calling it a silent holocaust, etc). Whites have no word for this. Ergo, Jews are somehow less racist, or something.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/what-northeastern-liberals-dont-get-about-mexicans/#comment-797747

    What’s the equivalent of “mulatto” for a half Italian / half German? (Maybe commenter Jefferson can help?)

    Normal society doesn’t care enough to create terms for these things.

    Sort of like how normal whites don’t keep track of how often they marry other white people, under the rubric of “intermarriage” (yes, an atheistic Jew raised an atheistic Jew who marries an atheistic German raised an atheistic German has “intermarried” according to Jews), or rub elbows with people who think of it as a “silent holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-whites-just-dont-get-it-part-3/#comment-736058

    Not many Jews feel threatened because they’ve become “environment is everything” true believers – drunk the leftist kool-aid. It seems that no matter how much evidence accumulates that intelligence, personality, conscientiousness, predisposition to violence, etc. are largely controlled by genetics, most people just don’t want to hear it. No group, Jews or non-Jews of any race, would be so cavalier about the effects of out-marriage if they understood the genetic implications.

    But that’s just it – Jews are the white group most alarmed by intermarriage, by far. Nobody else even notices when French marry Polish, Italians marry Irish, etc. It’s considered the norm. Jews are the only ones objecting. They closely monitor this “intermarriage” (nobody else even considers it that), offer no opprobrium to the Jews shouting alarms over the “silent holocaust,” etc.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/mena-hispanic-nonwhite-speaks-truth-to-power-on-immigration/#comment-671661

    Sigh. Not this again.

    That’s probably their most important technique: start the conversation over at square 1 every time, wear out their opponents and bore them to death. Force everyone to jump through all the hoops, every time. Grind city. Lots of copying and pasting helps.

    Throw in the full spectrum of logical fallacies and arguing in bad faith, et voila.

    Actually the intermarriage rate for Jews in the U.S is 58 percent, not 25 percent. So in the U.S there are now more Jews marrying Gentiles than there are Jews marrying other Jews.

    http://www.jta.org/2013/10/01/news-opinion/united-states/pew-survey-u-s-jewish-intermarriage-rate-rises-to-58-percent

    For someone like you who is obsessed with Jews, I would think you would do more homework on their intermarriage rates.

    No other racial/ethnic group in the United States has a higher intermarriage rate than the Jews, not even the Asians.

    They play a lot of games with their data (they’re Jewish organizations, not exactly the high water mark for honest critique of Jews), and the studies aren’t verifiable [corrected error in original ~ SVY] (they’re closed). There are a lot of games to be played with the data, which should be obvious but bears stating anyway. In short, I don’t trust their data. They certainly have motivation to lie in the direction that the studies always turn out (and I can expand on that if you like).

    Jews won’t even allow the US census to count them, FFS. We really have no clue how many of them there are in America.

    I would say 58 percent is pretty damn high. Do you know of any country in the world where White Gentiles are a minority and they have a 58 percent intermarriage rate ?

    The white “gentile” “intermarriage rate” is probably higher than 58% everywhere in the western world, to the extent that it’s possible (i.e., where there’s sufficient diversity).

    Do you think 58 percent of married Whites in South Africa for example have a Black spouse ? HELL NO THEY DON’T.

    Have you been AWOL during the last umpteen times we’ve discussed this (recently)? Or are you a liar? Because we’ve been over this, and those are the only choices. Jews “intermarrying” with whites is not at all the same thing as whites “intermarrying” with blacks. Jews “intermarrying” with blacks is equivalent to whites “intermarrying” with blacks.

    So, you’re inadvertently proving my point. Jews do not marry blacks in statistically-relevant numbers. That’s why you can go to G**gle and try to find some data and you’ll get zilch; because the supposedly black-loving, diversity-celebrating, multicultural, lefty, intermarriage-happy Jews don’t marry blacks. They know this could lead to bad PR if it gets out, so instead, they just sweep the whole question under the rug.

    Whites intermarry with blacks at a far higher rate than Jews do.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/mena-hispanic-nonwhite-speaks-truth-to-power-on-immigration/#comment-671664

    How the *#@! can Jews marrying whites be equivalent to whites marrying blacks if Jews are white?

    FFS.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/mena-hispanic-nonwhite-speaks-truth-to-power-on-immigration/#comment-671773

    Jews make a big deal about xx% of Jews marrying white people when there’s no figures to which we can even compare whatever (dubious) number they’re referencing, because nobody else is even ethnocentric enough to keep track of how many Irish-Americans marry German-Americans, Italian-Americans marry Polish-Americans, etc.

    Lulz.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/mena-hispanic-nonwhite-speaks-truth-to-power-on-immigration/#comment-671805

    Then please provide your reasons for thinking that the prevailing figures are incorrect

    When I read up on one of the biggest studies a few years ago, I discovered that the people who made it played a lot of footsie with the numbers. I can’t recall exactly what it was, something about casting a very wide net as to “who’s a Jew” for the purposes of intermarriage (counting 1/4 Jews and such) to make it look like there was more Jewish intermarriage than there was, and then switching to some other criteria in other parts of the study. My point isn’t about the specific problems with the study, though, so much as what I gathered from it: it’s moronic to trust Jews (and only Jews’; no one else is allowed to count them) on this subject when they have every reason to lie (“the sky is falling! Circle the wagons! Silent Holocaust! Send money now! We’re the diversiest ever! No ethnocentrism here!” etc.).

    I don’t suggest the numbers are wrong. I suggest they’re unverifiable, that quality is baked into the cake, and the people who provide them have strong motivation to deceive.

    I have no better estimate to provide, though I’d guess that if they’re wrong, they’re low; the smaller the minority, the more sympathetic. The larger the minority, the more threatening.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/#comment-605328

    2) Jews define “intermarriage” as a Jew marrying a “Gentile” German, a Scot, etc. There aren’t even records for how high the rate is for such “intermarriage” between Germans and Scots, English and Czechs, etc. It is absolutely certain to be much higher than the rate of “intermarriage” for Jews, of course. The very fact that Jews track (and whine over) this is evidence that their rate is lower. It’s a non-issue for the groups with which Jews are “intermarrying.”

    3) Jews won’t even broach the subject of real intermarriage, e.g., the rate at which they marry blacks. Because the rate is so low, they want to sweep it under the rug because it makes them look like racists (because they are).

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/#comment-605342

    71% of Secular American Jews outmarry. I doubt even Northern European intra-white marriage is as high.

    Lol. You’re kidding, right? Let’s accept that absurd figure at face value; you really think 30% of English-Americans marry English-Americans, 30% of Czech-Americans marry Czech-Americans, etc? “Gentile” Euro-Americans don’t even notice this stuff. At all. A vocal minority of Jews call the equivalent the “silent holocaust” and the like (and aren’t accused of anything by their community, I might add). Resisting this “intermarriage” is a respected Jewish pastime, in fact.

    This one’s from Reiner Tor, but very informative:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/#comment-607028

    You are also conspicuously ignoring the fact that MacDonald did indeed mention Jewish outmarriage rates. Here’s an article by author Ted Sallis. (I guess Ted Sallis is a pseudonym.) To summarize, outmarriage is overestimated (by counting second and third marriages, where the number of children is likely to be lower or zero, the undercounting of the Orthodox need not concern us here, because I guess you are only talking about liberal Jews), and it’s still low compared to gentile white ethnic groups (which is 80%).

    Also cf. Irwin Silverman and Danielle Case: Ethnocentrism vs. Pragmatism in the Conduct of Human Affairs. In: Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt and Frank K. Salter (ed.): Ethnic Conflict and Indoctrination. Altruism and Identity in Evolutionary Perspective. p400 Table 18.2. Mean Ethnocentrism Scores by Subjects’ Ethnic Group:

    According to the table Jews were measured to be even more ethnocentric than Blacks (the second most ethnocentric group), and way more ethnocentric than other whites (especially more so than WASPs). It is also well-known that black men are prone to marrying white girls (when possible, for example for famous black people). This of course doesn’t imply that they aren’t ethnocentric. (But of course it means they don’t think much about perpetuating the African American gene pool.)

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/#comment-607521

    But Jews tolerate very high levels of Jewish women marrying gentile women. How is letting one’s women marry racial outsiders at very high levels ethnocentric?

    But Europeans of all nationalities tolerate much higher levels of their own marrying other European nationalities. And dramatically higher rates of marrying non-Europeans. How is this inconsistent with the idea that Europeans are less ethnocentric than Jews? It seems perfectly consistent to me, especially given how much more “liberal” Jews are supposed to be compared to Europeans; we should see the opposite, but we don’t.

    Shouldn’t he be comparing Jewish intermarriage rates to interracial marriage rates, in which case 71% is far higher than the rate of gentile white interracial marriage

    Well, I suppose that would be one application of the old “Chosen of G-d” theme. So, if Jews marrying other Caucasoids is equivalent to Europeans (or, presumably other Caucasoids) marrying Negroids or Mongoloids, then what do you call Jews marrying Negroids (something that happens so rarely that Jews treat the stats for it like a dirty national secret)? What’s the Jewish equivalent of European intermarriage – Ashkenazis marrying Sephardics? Doesn’t this mean that ultimately, the Jewish equivalent of marrying your high school sweetheart is marrying your sister instead?

    No, Jews are roughly equivalent to a European nationality. French, German, English, Jewish, these things belong more to the same category than not. Just as a Frenchman marrying a German crosses national-racial lines, but not continental-racial lines, same goes for Jews marrying people from Caucasoid nationalities.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/slavoj-zizek-on-kevin-macdonalds-culture-of-critique/#comment-607625

    Another good Reiner Tor comment.

    P.S., Jews don’t marry Blacks:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/cathy-young-ann-coulter-is-anti-semitic-but-sabrina-rubin-erdely-couldnt-possibly-be-anti-gentilic/#comment-1421153

    @Svigor

    Saw this study vindicating your point and instantly thought of you.

    “Gendered Racial Exclusion among White Internet Daters.” http://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/80046

    Relevant portion: “Specifically, we see that whites who identified as Jewish were dropped from the analysis of black exclusion because it was a perfect predictor; that is, all white men and women who identified as Jewish excluded blacks as possible dates; all white women who identified as Jewish also excluded Asian men as possible dates.”

    ****

    There, that’s a sampling of my arguments against the “Jewish intermerriage rates prove Jews aren’t ethnocentric” nonsense. Some people are good at keeping track of the personal aspects of debates, and would hold your feet to the fire the next time you play obtuse on this subject, but I am not among them, so feel free to play the Jewish “reset” game in the next thread.

    On the other hand, I have finally saved all of this in a text file, so I’ll just copy and paste it in again, the next time someone asks this oft-answered question.

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  242. @redmudhooch

    ” Trump and the Repubs are once again putting Israel first. ”

    Yes, and they are also pushing the gun confiscation agenda right along with the democrats. It’s really a shame that the old Dixiecrats who switched from the democrats to the republicans once the democrat party went full communist didn’t form a new conservative party back then.

    The GOP has never been a conservative party. It was the first socialist party to gain control of government and has never changed its basic goals, only the rhetoric its politicians use to gull conservatives into the big tent where they can be cornholed at the leisure of the party’s pinko leadership.

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  243. Svigor says:

    The authors do not cite any actual numbers for the Jewish tendency they mention. 55% is a “tendency,” 70-75% is more like a “lockdown.” Whites are quite different, much more split down the middle. Jews vote more like Blacks.

    To correct myself, it’s more of a matter of Whites being quite different in that they vote in the opposite direction (and not that they are all that much more split). Whites lean solidly GOP now, if not as strongly as Jews and Blacks go left.

    Successful whites (like me)

    “Hello, fellow white people!”

    Lulz @ WOG.

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  244. wayfarer says:
    @AaronB

    For the record, I also hugely support Jews interamarrying with gentiles at whatever percentages. It’s a very good thing for everyone – we want you guys back in the human race.

    Raised a Roman Catholic on my father’s side and an atheist Episcopalian on my mother’s side, I have two brothers. My younger brother’s wife is Jewish, and they’re raising their kids within that culture.

    He was initially attracted to the culture because of its no holds barred approach to conducting business. He now makes tons of money as an entrepreneur, but has no regard as to the means of this success. In many ways he’s a conman’s conman.

    He was also attracted to the culture as it gently nurtures and mentors its young, providing safe community for its own, something my brothers and I did not experience while growing up.

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  245. Svigor says:

    @the Supreme Gentleman

    You nailed it.

    Lot has been here for YEARS. Reading threads and participating heavily in them for YEARS. Ignoring all my arguments on this subject and pretending they don’t exist for YEARS.

    There’s some kind of “full of shit” gene in Jews. Chutzpah + ethnocentrism. They’re fine with being totally full of shit (there’s always some rationalization behind it, usually muh holocaust and ANTI-ANTISEMITISM). That’s why I stopped using “forced a Jew to be honest on the issue” as a metric of anything a long time ago. There is no forcing your typical Jew into honesty against interest. They’re just different than we are.

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  246. Svigor says:

    FOR GOD’S SAKE, ALL THE PROTESTING THAT JEWS DO THAT “NO SIR, WE ARE NOT ETHNOCENTRIC, WE’RE THE OPPOSITE OF ETHNOCENTRIC” IS OBVIOUS EVIDENCE OF THEIR ETHNOCENTRISM.

    Un-ethnocentric people don’t spend this much time defending themselves. Most Whites would just shrug and say “yeah, Whites have done plenty of bad and have lots of racist history.” Seen plenty of threads here where the Jews defending Jews outnumber the Whites defending Whites, despite the fact that Whites outnumber Jews like 30 to 1 in this country (and that Jews have plenty of avenues for pursuing their ethnic interests, quite unlike Whites who have to go find fringe websites).

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  247. AaronB says:
    @wayfarer

    I do think that over time, these Jewish attributes get diluted through intermarriage.

    You have to realize that they originated in very unnatural conditions, and can disappear when those conditions change.

    Unfortunately, the first generation of gentiles who are attracted to marriages with Jews are usually the type that like money, but succeeding generations are better.

    It’s a process.

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  248. Svigor says:

    “As far as MacDonald goes, no single one of the numerous factual errors documented in Cofnas’s paper can be said to “falsify” his theory. Nor can any single example of right-wing Jews or radical gentiles. We just have to use our judgment to decide whether his conspiracy theory is a better explanation of Jewish liberalism than the simpler high-IQ-plus-persecution theory that we advocate.”

    The problem with Jewish leftism is that Jews are not leftist. Diaspora Jews are leftist. But when they get their own country, they go hard right. Harder right than any other nominally white ethnic group. Added to that is the very important fact that these two Jewish “camps” are very much in the same Jewish army. The two get along famously. In fact, Israeli Jewry is very dependent upon its wealthier, smarter, more numerous big brother, Diaspora Jewry.

    So explaining Jewish leftism has to account for these two, closely allied, but ostensibly politically opposite camps. “High IQ plus persecution” fails miserably, but “Jewish Supremacy” fits perfectly.

    “Conspiracy theory” is a straw man. All of this is deeply embedded in Jewish culture. It’s right out in the open.

    Solzhenitsyn’s book “200 Years Together” would strongly argue against this, at least in Russia in the 1800s. His book offers exhaustive detail pertaining to a half-century effort by Russian authorities to introduce Jews to agriculture by providing them with free land, housing, work implements, tax subsidies and some allowances against the mandatory military conscription. The thought was both to assimilate Jews and to prevent them from engaging in activities (usury, manufacturing and selling vodka) that were seen to exploit the Russian peasantry. The experiment was a dismal failure. Many Jews leased their lands out for exorbitant prices then returned to the urban areas to pursue commerce and money-lending.

    Jews preferred usury to tilling the soil? Saw manual labor with contempt? Shocking, just shocking. Total contrast with what we see from American Jewry today.

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  249. @Tyrion 2

    As bad as those speech codes are, they don’t criminalize skepticism of a particular historical question, as you doubtless understand. But your game is quite clear by now.

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  250. Svigor says:

    So explaining Jewish leftism has to account for these two, closely allied, but ostensibly politically opposite camps. “High IQ plus persecution” fails miserably, but “Jewish Supremacy” fits perfectly.

    Now, if the authors want to argue that “high IQ plus persecution” is the cause of Jewish Supremacy, I’d say they had the beginnings of a point (“persecution” is Jews’ word for “Jew vs. White/gentile conflict.”

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  251. wayfarer says:
    @AaronB

    I’m into the hybrid, whether it’s a hybrid religion, philosophy, culture, dog, orange tree, or whatever – crossed in ways as to preserve their best qualities.

    I seem to view you, as a hybrid.

    Have a beautiful evening, AaronB.

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  252. @dahoit

    We won’t have the answer until we collect and mine all the data. My best guess is that the answer will be quite complex. At the moment, for instance, the Chinese are accruing great power at an accelerating rate.

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  254. @mcohen

    “refuses to live with brown skins or even those dirty white skins”

    Kinda hard to do when the (((media))) refuses to let us or anyone in the world live in peace ain’t it?

    They push diversity because it makes it easier to use their media to turn people against each other. What divides people better than race? Ethnicity? Religion?

    Don’t think we havent noticed, BLM, Antifa, we see the patterns. Even inciting violence against police, they notice too, believe me, they may not talk about it in public, we all noticed,just don’t know when to stop do you?

    You’re not fooling anyone anymore. We’re catching on to your BS. Everyone is.

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  255. Heres your daily reminder of how awesome our #1 ally is….9/11 what do the 2 have in common?

    The Deliberate False Flag Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty.

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  256. A bit more on the historical context of Jews, Poles, and Russians:

    http://holywar.org/jewishtr/07poland.htm

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  257. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    2900 words.
    whew.
    started reading, then it looked like the paragraph I’d just read was repeated.
    ditto
    ditto again.

    next time you paste, can you provide an exec summary, or ToC?

    I spent as much time as I did trying to understand what differentiated points you were making because I’m interested to know if same-ethnic marriages last longer than inter-ethnic marriages. I think those “French + Irish” etc. marrieds would do well to start tracking their mixatiousness.

    anon #74 http://www.unz.com/article/what-the-alt-right-gets-wrong-about-jews/#comment-2251578 made important points:

    Inheritance is deeper. It goes back to ancestors and tradition. It is not plucked out of the air like 50 genders. So, the Right needs to be Inheritarian.
    Also, we must not confuse Interest with Identity or Inheritance. . . .
    A black worker and white worker can have shared interests. But their inheritances are different in race, history, memory, and narrative.

    Jews retain group cohesion because their “history, memory, and narrative” are the same/similar (holocaust is a necessary invention because initially, Jews cobbled together by zionists did NOT share “history, memory, narrative,” so a unifying narrative had to be concocted.)

    Whites (gawd I hate that tag) who cavalierly dismiss their Inheritance differences in choosing a partner dismiss the importance of their inheritance, thereby giving Jews who do value the importance of a unifying narrative (even if it’s false/falsified).

    Whites who intermarry without giving thought to similarities or differences or perhaps incompatibilities between the Inheritance components are handicapping themselves, diluting their Inheritance.

    Europeans married within their own Inheritance-kind for centuries before the World Wars busted up Europe and sent busted up ethnic groups to USA where, initially, they lived in ethnic neighborhoods: those ethnic neighborhoods lasted for a generation or so, then they fragmented: social engineers sliced-and-diced neighborhoods that used to be ethnically organized around a parish church (Jews still do live close to other Jews near their synagogue).
    Then, children went off to college, separating themselves from their co-ethnics.

    Baby boomers may be the first generation that behaved radically differently from those centuries-old patterns of in-group marriage. They also experience a lot more divorce; their children are even more scrambled and dysfunctional as families — Linh calls it anomic.

    If whites expect to sustain their Inheritance-based identity, they are going to have to pay as much attention to intra-ethnic marriage as Jews do.

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  258. geokat62 says:

    Well, well,,well. It took 20 yrs but The Lobby finally decided it was time to respond to Prof. MacDonald’s magnum opus.

    They initially thought it more prudent to give it the silent treatment and simply ignore it. They then decided to attack the messenger and not the message, calling Prof. MacDonald an antisemite. They tried disparaging his work by comparing it the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But none of it worked. The turning point must have come when a congressional candidate from Wisconsin, Paul Nehlen, tweeted that he was reading Prof. MacDonald’s CofC. All hell broke loose and they managed to get Twitter to ban him from their platform. What must have been the final straw was when Paul Nehlen announced that Prof. MacDonald agreed to be his spokesman for his campaign against Speaker Paul Ryan.

    To their horror, the Lobby has been witnessing their worst nightmare come true – a resurgence in nationalism taking place in both European and European-derived countries. All their efforts to end antisemitism may have come to naught. This is a disaster, all the stops must be pulled. That explains why The Lobby has finally decided it had to try and produce a scholarly refutation of Prof. MacDonald’s works. It’s a sign of desperation. I’m looking forward to reading Prof. MacDonald’s rebuttal, as I’m confident it will demolish this lame attempt to challenge his thesis.

    What The Lobby must come to terms with is the truth of the following statement: just as fascism was a reaction to Bolshevism (or traditional Marxism), the alt-right is a reaction to Cultural Marxism.

    Bottom Line: as Slick Willy so aptly put it… it’s The Lobby stupid!

    All the highfalutin words of these so-called scholars cannot refute the truth of one simple fact: Organized Jewry have been pursuing policies that are detrimental to the majorities of host nations. I’m referring to:
    1) domestic policies in the form of the promotion of mass immigration (pushing the lie that Diversity Is Our Strength); and
    2) foreign policies in the form of the promotion of the GWOT (pushing the lie that it is being waged to protect The Dumb Goyim when it is in fact being waged to protect The Chosen)

    By its very actions, The Lobby is sowing the seeds of its own destruction.

    That’s why I have consistently called upon them to cease and desist their activities… before it is too late.

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  259. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Jews preferred usury to tilling the soil?

    A-historic bullpucky.

    Jews learned banking and trading from Persians, at a time when Jews were not Jews but Hebrews that Persians called Yehud. The first arbiters of Hebrew/Jewish behavior were not holy men or scholars but wealthy merchants/financiers in Babylon: a person or group from a distant Hebrew community would take their question to the merchant in Babylon who would provide a solution, for which the petitioner paid the merchant.

    Jews remained cling-ons in the Persian empire for over a millennia; it’s not unlikely that the Jewish presence was a drag on Persian ability to protect its borders against Romans.

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  260. Svigor says:

    Okay, I’ve had my fill even skimming this monster thread, for now. My rambling replies:

    What the Alt-Right gets wrong about Jews lies somewhere between the WN faction and the rest of the Alt-Right; the former often take countersemitism too far, while the latter are often far too ignorant about Jews to have their opinions taken seriously.

    So explaining Jewish leftism has to account for these two, closely allied, but ostensibly politically opposite camps. “High IQ plus persecution” fails miserably, but “Jewish Supremacy” fits perfectly.

    Now, if the authors want to argue that “high IQ plus persecution” is the cause of Jewish Supremacy, I’d say they had the beginnings of a point (“persecution” is Jews’ word for “Jew vs. White/gentile conflict.”

    I am surprised that no one has mentioned that jewish intelligence is directly linked to judaism and especially jewish law and customs.
    Spend some time reading the discussions on jewish law and you will understand.

    Not all that directly linked. Ashkenazi Jews are just one subset of Jewry; the other subsets are no great shakes. Jewish talent doesn’t even become a thing until “Jewish emancipation.” Before the 2nd millennium, Jews in general were no great shakes.

    The most remarkable thing about Jews throughout history is their ethnocentrism. It long precedes their reputation for high IQ.

    Anon • Disclaimer says:
    March 17, 2018 at 3:06 am GMT • 700 Words

    Top-notch comment.

    Because sophisticated Jewish intellectuals have not got caught on the record advocating particularism for themselves and universalism for their hosts*1* does not mean that this is not the net behavior of the Jewish community.

    The fact that only a miniscule number of Jews have gone on the record as noticing the bifurcation you refer to is evidence of Jews’ particularism. Jews are smart, Jews have the megaphone, Jews love running their mouths about politics and culture, especially ethnopolitics and culture, Jews have a lot of chutzpah, and Jews love to criticize, but…they all seem to miss the beam in their own eyes.

    Ethnocentrism is the most parsimonious explanation.

    MacDonald has already announced that I will reject his ideas because I am Jewish, so what’s the point of replying to them?. . .MacDonald’s various theses, even if worthy of scientifically debate individually, collectively add up to a consistently invidious portrayal of Jews, couched in value-laden, disparaging language. It is impossible to avoid the impression that this is not an ordinary scientific hypothesis

    Jew: “what’s in it for me? This science thing as all about the gold, unnerstand?”

    Also, science has to be “ordinary” for Pinker to address it.

    2. The alt-right likes to portray Jews as hypocrites, liberalism for you and nationalism for them. This is just flat out wrong. The vast majority of leftist Jews (the kind that causes problems) are secular and liberal even towards Israel. They’re lukewarm on Israeli issues at best, often completely apathetic. Go to Israel and you’ll find a significant number of left-wing Jewish true believers who shriek constantly about their conservative government. Genuinely two-faced Jews are nowhere as common as liberal internationalist Jews.

    That doesn’t comport with reality. Jews voted 75% against Trump. That’s a pretty standard result. Jews are overwhelmingly (pseudo-)leftist. These same Jews are all Zionists.

    The supposed diaspora Jewish animus against Israel is imaginary. The exceptions aren’t numerous enough to matter.

    P.S., 3 doesn’t get Jews off the hook.

    Radical feminists – if you want to understand how sane people see you just examine how you see KMac acolytes who think the West has been under the Jewish yoke as part of a milennia-old conspiracy.

    “Here’s another extruded Jewish turd for you goyim.” Thanks, great comment.

    The Jew cries out in pain as it strikes you with its muh 6 gorillion cudgel

    LOL. Yes, the alt right tend to be dismissive of Jews’ argumentation. That’s mostly a good thing; let Jews up their game until they’re worthy of debate.

    That was but a fraction of my point. I’m swiftly coming to the conclusion that most anti-Semites here are either irredeemably thick or don’t even really believe their own nonsense. In the latter case, what is its purpose? A persuasion technique? Because if so, don’t, it does the opposite.

    Right back at you. The vaunted Jewish intellect evaporates into obtuseness and blatant dishonesty once Jews hit the free speech zones.

    @iffen

    In your “might makes right” world, perhaps.

    Jews are like Blacks that way. They strut right up until they fall in front of the bus. You’d think a group whose power is entirely soft power (i.e., dependent upon the consent of Whites) would be more circumspect, but no, chutzpah gotta chutzpah…

    This is not a “clever scheme”, just a historical relic. Since more Jewish males outmarry, in comparison to Jewish females (although the gap is not too wide)- and children of Jewish male/Gentile female combination are, if she does not convert, not considered to be Jewish- how can this be considered “clever”? If the net result is ethnic “loss” to this group?

    Matrilineage (for group membership, at least) makes sense because women can be assured that their children are actually theirs; the males get to genetically colonize outgroups with their seed while protecting their group from same (the term is “one-way gene flow.”

    Not that his lordship hasn’t probably heard this argument a thousand times already…

    After looking it up…

    But France is a country where a famous writer was taken to court merely for calling Islam “the stupidest religion”.

    That is the context you choose to ignore in order to make it seem that Jews get special treatment as Jews rather than somewhat special treatment as somewhat of a minority.

    Diaspora Jews are great at “universalizing” their interests and getting other minorities brought in under the same umbrella. Then Jews like you can sell this as proof of something.

    Jews obviously get special treatment; nobody ever calls them on their bullshit, despite its huge volume.

    People, can we move the discussion forward in level of sophistication and not have to argue the same old tired points over and over again? Jewish apologists – you seriously have to start coming up with new ideas. The old high Jewish IQ think has been decisively discredited, not just through simple logic and applying the mathematics of IQ, but also because the internet has made that sparkling Jewish intellect available for everyone to see.

    Jews will continue serving up the same stale, rotting, warmed-over crap they’ve been serving, until they start to feel some heat. Actually, they’ll probably keep serving it afterward, too. Soviet type methods have been and will be their response.

    Without getting into a multitudinous detail the bottom line is Jews are at war with people of European descent

    Correct.

    and in the final end of the war either Jews will go extinct or European Aryans will go extinct and there is no other way that the war end will play out.

    Incorrect.

    Right now Jews are winning because white Aryans arne’t fighting. Jews are on the offensive

    Correct.

    even threatening to nuke Europe

    Overblown/sensationalist. Slow genocide is much more insidious and effective.

    while us Aryans are doing very little, with a few exceptions, but not nearly enough for us Aryans to win.

    Correct, but the alt right has gotten big enough, IMO, that there’s no way to stop the snowball anymore. This is the end of the beginning, to paraphrase some fat guy.

    I could go on and on, but one last point is simply the existence of the hebrew word gentile. To my knowledge, no other language has a particle word that so specifically means ‘not us,’ or the ‘others’. I’m not sure if MacDonald actually discusses linguistics, but it’s another crucial piece to the emergence of antisemitism.

    On the contrary, nearly every culture has, or had, a word that refers to “us” and “them.” In my experience, it’s usually along the lines of “humans” or “men” or “people” or “first people” or the like for the “us,” and something not quite so nice for “them.”

    What you’ve noticed is the fact that civilized Whites stopped doing this so long ago that we don’t even know, in most cases, what our words for these things were. So Jews’ continued use of “gentile” (which means “heathen”) is more the mark of a primitive culture, than an exceptional one.

    This doesn’t make any sense. Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is 1.0 Standard Deviations above white gentile average.

    No, it isn’t.

    Gilad Atzmon, a self-described ex-Jew, calls this tendency among Jews to fear things that haven’t happend yet and probably never will Pre-Traumatic Stress syndrome!

    In other news, criminals are usually ready to get caught, woman-beaters are more likely to know the drill when a woman calls the cops, etc.

    You do have a partial point comparing Black crybabies and White Nationalists though, at times some of them seem hilariously alike, although on the surface only.

    Nah. Objective review shows the myriad similarities between Jews and Blacks. Hard to miss, really.

    The most urban population will have the most immunity to a disease that killed most in urban areas.

    But really, what’s the point with you lot? Are you even real? Jews responsible for the black death? Jews engaged in an eternal war against Europeans? Jews as being genetically without conscience? Wtf. I know the internet is full of lunatics but you lot are full-blown evil. There’s no other word to describe it. I could never think of a group of people like that as my own heart isn’t pitch black.

    Here, have a pillow to cry into. I’ll cue the world’s smallest violins. Would you like some cheese with your whine?

    All he did was raise questions, then you used your Jewish Bullshit Organ (found in most Jewish brains) to create a monstrous straw man out of it.

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  261. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    We need to make “Jewish Supremacy” a term, considering that it perfectly describes the double standard. “Ethno-nationalism for me, but not for thee goy.”* Isn’t that the definition of supremacy, demanding special privileges and rules for yourself? “Diversity quotas that disposses thee , but not me goy.”

    Couple this with the fact that they’re by far the wealthiest group, that they control most the media, that if you turn on CNN any hour of the day they’re at least half the people on the screen telling you what to think about domestic and Middle East policy – and if you so much as point this out (not to mention criticize it) you’re censored, ostracized and fired from your job. “Jewish supremacy” is the perfect word.

    White “over-representation” is white privilege, and Jewish over-representation is Jewish meritocracy and “high IQ.” If you subtract the Jews, whites are underrepresented in virtually all position of power, whether it be in the Ivy League or ownership of media, or the list of top billionaires.**

    We don’t live in a White supremacist society. We live in a Jewish supremacist society, which privileges them in every way, exempts them from the negative consequences of the diversity policies they push on whites, and destroys the livelihood of anyone who so much as points these facts out. It is a horrifying Soviet style dystopia, and we’re living it.

    * By the way, you have to foot the bill for Israel’s ethno-nationalism in the Middle East, goy. (and fight the wars and spill the blood)

    ** (if you look at the demographics of the relevant age group)

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  262. anon • Disclaimer says:

    There is no Jewish conspiracy. Say two Jewish writers.

    Uh okay…..

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  263. Svigor says:

    next time you paste, can you provide an exec summary, or ToC?

    Yeah, sorry, I didn’t proofread it. If you quote me the repeated passages, I will excise them for next time. I had to run a search on Unz; many of the hits referred to the same threads. I was in a hurry to finish what I was finding tiresome before I even started.

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  264. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Israelis are insane/crazy and generally just evil. Brainwashed perhaps worse than some Americans…
    Don’t believe me?
    Go and read some of the comments here:

    U.S. AND IDF TROOPS, IN MAJOR JOINT DRILL, SIMULATING BATTLE ON 3 FRONTS

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Juniper-Cobra-begins-with-US-and-IDF-troops-simulating-missile-attacks-544598

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  265. Amasius says:
    @utu

    Based on hints, I assume he tried pushing the “Indians are Aryans, too!” angle and the stormfront crowd didn’t want to hear it. Apparently he tried for a long time and ended up really frustrated, now he’s on whatever the Hindu equivalent of Jihad is forever.

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  266. renfro says:

    If the US did not have the second largest population of Jews we would not be supporting Israel financially or militarily.
    The Jews are bad for America.
    Case closed.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Juniper-Cobra-begins-with-US-and-IDF-troops-simulating-missile-attacks-544598

    US Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark in Israel for joint drill says:

    “We are ready to commit to the defense of Israel anytime we get involved in a kinetic fight there is always the risk that there will be casualties. But we accept that – as every conflict we train for and enter, there is always that possibility,”

    ”“As far as decision-making, it is a partnership,” he continued, stressing nonetheless that “at the end of the day it is about the protection of Israel – and if there is a question in regards to how we will operate, the last vote will probably go to Zvika ,Brig.-Gen. Zvika Haimovitch, head of the IDF’s Aerial Defense Division.”

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  267. @geokat62

    Well said, geokat62.

    Have to admit, I’ve not read MacDonald’s trilogy, but I have viewed Mark Green’s interview very carefully

    and read the extensive review of CofC by Stanley Hornbeck http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html .
    So it’s pretty pretentious for me to say that MacDonald’s study gets some things wrong.

    But it is ground-breaking; he’s nearly entirely alone in the field in applying an objective analysis to JQ. He stuck his neck out.

    Imagine if as many scholars and academics applied their skills, knowledge and intensity to a collegial study of the situation as Jews are able to do; instead, non-Jews must self-censor where they are not positively censored by the Jewish power structure.
    It’s encouraging that Andrew Joyce is ably following in MacDonald’s footsteps

    Your comment implies that this crack in the Wall may only grow wider ’til the wall crumbles, and I hope you’re right.

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  268. @redmudhooch

    Our perennial “Question”: the Jews.
    The Chosen, pro-choice!, Free to Choose.
    We goyim pre-schoolers
    Cannot choose our rulers
    Till the Liberty gets in our news.

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  269. Where to begin…

    I have seen these “damage control” articles of trying to explain away jewish behavior as misunderstood, or as consequence of historical incidence that have lead them to dominate the financial spheres, or thinly veiled arrogance at their “extraordinarily” high I.Q. that has lead them to such astounding success and influence from the media to academia and beyond. This article does nothing but try to subvert the real reasons and justifications behind antisemitism.

    For instance our author said of Jews:

    “But those with higher IQ are more likely to support free-market economic policies (“liberalism” in the old sense of the word). Intelligence is required to understand how trade can be a positive sum game, and how order can emerge from individuals freely interacting with one another.”

    But according to some sources, is it not the Asians with the highest IQs? Yet how much liberalism and humanity do we see coming from China? According to the author’s argument, if IQ itself is a measure of success and civility then China should dominate global finance and be in the forefront of good governance instead of the “humble” European who authored the U.S. Constitution and created a Democratic Republic. Yet, in reality, we know this not to be the case. And it is certainly not the case that the “superior” intelligence of the Jew has lead them to dominate the media, finance, and have a disproportional influence on our politics but rather nepotism, favoritism, and corruption.

    What race has petitioned tirelessly for laws that abridge free speech concerning the Holocaust, creating and encouraging laws that carry both hefty fines and lengthy incarcerations? Or persuade our states to give written oaths of loyalty to Israel. And, further yet, to be trying to pass a law where it will be illegal to boycott or even encourage to boycott Israel carrying a fine up to a million dollars and a ten year prison sentence.

    To sum up this opinion article in the author’s own words: “…it is chock full of misrepresented sources, cherry-picked facts, and egregious distortions of history.”

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  270. Weaver1 says:

    Everyone with power abuses that power. To say Jews have done wrong is in part to say Jews have been powerful. Man is fallen. Were the Romans “fair” to the Gauls? Was Athens fair to those under the Delian League? (There’s a philosophical quote by Thucydides is why I mention Athens.)

    I do not believe Dr. MacDonald wishes for “justice” or revenge. And I know for a certainty he has acknowledged certain Jews as positive for society. For example, in one of his books, he mentions that Jews in the US South tended to be supportive of the South, perhaps because they had been welcomed here.

    If the man has made a mistake, it’s to be expected since he studies a topic that is entirely taboo. While I am no expert on MacDonald, I believe the above article to be unfair, especially since it includes Anglin with MacDonald.

    I have time to at least follow some twitter comments. Anglin I assume still likes NS. MacDonald has explicitly rejected NS on twitter. That’s quite the difference.

    -

    Regarding classical liberals having higher IQs… That sounds like a low-IQ statement. Classical liberals are more likely to embrace the simplistic ideology in place of a religion. And they might appreciate how the ideology advantages them, justifies their wealth and power. A great many non-classical liberals appreciate the market without worshiping it.

    People tend to believe in ideologies that advantage them. Socialism, libertarianism: No ideology is very good in truth. A person with high IQ is more likely to take a powerful position which he then (likely) wishes to expand and justify.

    If Jews want to win over the Alt Right, then simply be more supportive of Europeans. To give an example: I fully expect Jews to be condescending to Christianity. That’s normal. But it would be nice if Jews also saw Christianity as more beneficial than atheism and helped defend it.

    Similarly, I expect Jews to value their heritage, their traditions, most. But it would be appreciated if Jews also saw the value in helping to defend others’ heritage and traditions.

    Finally, usury and other dual morality shouldn’t be embraced. And concentration of power, whether under capitalists or socialists, shouldn’t be celebrated. Concentrated power leads to abuse, regardless of who is in power.

    These matters can be discussed. MacDonald isn’t the second coming of Hitler…

    Solzhenitsyn and GK Chesterton have also been quite critical of Judaism. They’ve been wrongly condemned for it. Neither wanted harm to Jews.

    The history can be understood in context without demonising either side, but history tends to have multiple perspectives. What’s frustrating is how I readily acknowledge sins of my ancestors while Jews insist they’re always victims. I believe most Jews don’t realise how absurd this society has become due to their recent (and open) cultural dominance. It’s not hatred to desire truth, and I do not see Jews as a natural enemy.

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  271. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    This is my understanding. I required some research, though.

    Peter Hjorne is 1/4 Jewish (at least). His mother’s mother is Jewish. Her name was Aina Kaplan.** Peter’s uncle, (mother’s brother) is another titan of industry Pehr G. Gyllenhammar. It lists on Pehr’s wiki that he’s “of Jewish descent” but that’s omitted in the terser wiki for Peter Hjorne. Pehr’s sister, Anne Hjorne (Nee Gyllenhammer) is Peter’s mother.

    So yes, despite Tyrion 2′s denials Peter Hjorne, the second largest owner of media in Sweden is of Jewish descent, and, in fact, is Halachically Jewish.

    This means that 6/8 largest newspapers in Sweden are owned by families of Jewish descent are owned by Jewish families. The other 2/8 are owned by “foreign banks.”

    From now on Tyrion, if you disagree with anything: *Cite it*. You cite nothing, ever. It’s nothing but denial and obfuscation from you. Cite it.
    ** Aina’s own parents were born in Germany and Poland, respectively, and named Mathias Kaplan and Sara Selma Friedland.

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  272. @Colleen Pater

    Brilliant comment,

    The game is slowly getting over for the tribe in the US, the fact that this very article was written shows how worried they are. The dumb, open hearted and kind Goyim cattle of America have finally woken up from their stupor and there’s no going back to sleep, no business as usual, they know that now they have to deal with enraged bulls instead of stupid cattle, that’s why this article exists, they know that yet again they badly overplayed their hands. An American Putin’s bound to appear and boot these Oligarchs out. They can always disappear into their Criminal sanctuary state of Israel.

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  273. Vojkan says:
    @lavoisier

    Had Jews while I was in school in France, had them as teachers in school, had Jewish colleague students at the University, noticed many copiers among them, quite a few copied from me, had Jews as professors, they generally favored Jewish students, even more so if they were their children, worked with Jews during my professional career, if they were indeed smarter on average, they did a hell of a good job to conceal it.

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  274. Vojkan says:
    @Anon

    I agree with most of your comment except with the part about Jews on an island. I don’t see them surviving if left to their own devices. They can’t make it without the goyims. It also may well be that as a white heterosexual goy, I’m full of prejudice.
    I agree though concerning the Irish, https://www.historyireland.com/18th-19th-century-history/food-exports-from-ireland-1846-47/

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  275. Vojkan says:
    @geokat62

    How do you refute an article that can be summed up in one sentence, “there’s no Jewish conspiracy, we’re smarter therefore we deserve to be on top”?

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  276. @Svigor

    Nah. 1. Jewish marriage habits are a lot more insular than than those of other white ethnic groups. French, Czech, Italian, Irish, etc…these groups do not even track so-called “intermarriage,” and the rates are much higher than for Jews. So Jewish marriage habits actually reveal particularism. 2. These much less particularist habits don’t stop (white) people from having animus against Irish, Italian, Czech, French, etc., ethnic groups, or constitute a valid defense for same.

    This is wrong kind of thinking, because this ethnicity has different, national religion/culture.

    The apposite question would be: how many American Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Hindus or Muslims (religious or not) outmarry?

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  277. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    I gave very solid evidence that contradicted all of your assertions. Every time and on the battlefields you picked. In return, you dispute them merely through paranoia.

    What hypothetical scenario would prove you wrong? Because if not all of the examples above satisfied, you are being extremely unreasonable. You are doing exactly the type of thinking that SJW types engage in.

    Ask them what evidence would dispute the patriarchy or white privilege and you’ll have the same conversation with them but you will be me and they will be you. That is if you can find one of the more reasonable ones – as you are for your side here. Talk to the wrong ones and you’ll get clearly stupid sophists/perhaps simply juvenile like AaronB or lunatic conspiracy theorists like most of the rest.

    I have spoken with both those here and SJWs. I know this is true.

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  278. @Anon

    I could never understand this line of thinking. For in stance, Karl Marx, who was a Christian atheist & had nothing to do with Judaism, was a German of wholly Jewish descent. But, he was not a Jew simply because he did not identify with this ethnicity/culture. He was German 100%.

    Also, French composer Jean Baptiste Lully was born as Italian, but he is a French, not Italian composer (the same situation, I think, with great French mathematician Joseph Louis Lagrange). On the other hand, great German physiologist Emil Dubois Reymond was a German, and not French scientist, although he was of French Huguenot descent.

    The same mistake seems to be with these Swedish media people- conflation of ancestry & identity.

    Does it matter what, say, some rabbi could have thought of Marx’s identity? Marx wouldn’t have given a hoot & he would have been right.

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  279. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Svigor

    Tldr. Jews consider it intermarriage because it is interfaith. It makes the ceremony complicated. Duh!

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  280. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Olorin

    Hello Kevin,

    Clearly, I was right on the money with my description of you. It caused you to have quite a tantrum.

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  281. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anon

    While my research is restricted by my lack of Swedish, I see no reason to see any of your assertions as true. That website is not authoritative nor does it necessarily say what you think it does. Evidence would be him talking about being Jewish. Or him worshipping at a synagogue. Some some random datatbase that you could have input the not quite relevant data into.

    Except that the Volvo bloke has some Jewish ancestry, but it seems he wrote a famous book idolising the pre-1970s Swedish state. Which was probably the most homogenous in the world. So even your desperate need to feel that a handful of Jews somehow led the Swedes astray is disproven by your own nonsense.

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  282. @the Supreme Gentleman

    Rates of outgroup marriage aren’t as important as how the offspring will self-identify. Obama is a very typical example, he is half-white, but identifies as black. There are obviously many socio-political incentives to self-identify as a minority (and we can disregard that obviously insane white women who pretended she was black).

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  283. KenH says:

    I was expecting something original and groundbreaking but it’s just slight spin on the usual anti-anti semitic talking points.

    Persecution of Jews began for religious reasons in the Middle Ages

    The conflict between the occidental world and Jewry antedates Christianity. Greeks and especially Romans had their conflicts with the Jews. Jews try to ignore this episode since it contradicts their claims that Christian religious bigotry was the only thing preventing amity between Jew and goy. I guess they’ll try to claim pagan religious bigotry.

    (((The Author))) also says Jews have been well represented in right wing movements but that’s just the age old Jewish strategy of betting on both horses. This way Jews won’t suffer a backlash and retaliatory measures by the angry goyim.

    Although today in most cases I think rightist Jews are phony opposition and if they aren’t their Jewish world outlook prevents acknowledgement and honest discussion of the demographic displacement of whites and the perniciousness of multiracial policies (see Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Breitbart Jews). In short, Jewish rightists, or “good”, rightist Jews are just the Washington Generals who always manage to come up a little short while the “bad”, leftist Jews are the Harlem Globetrotters.

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  284. Weaver1 says:
    @TheDividualist

    Brits also seem to be nervous. I suspect a nervous or obsessive predisposition can give one an advantage in academic fields and could explain some (not all) of the alleged Jewish-Gentile IQ difference.

    That’s why I continue to say these topics are complicated and easily misunderstood: If a person enjoys success, he then strives to justify that success. IQ is a flattering justification for success, but it’s likely only one of a variety of explanations.

    And my post is not to allege that IQ is not genetic. It clearly has a strong genetic basis. But there are many aspects to success. IQ test results also vary depending on exposure.

    It’s frustrating to me to see certainty attached to matters that are uncertain. Whenever I make an argument, I like to include the arguments against my argument (at least the ones that come to mind).

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  285. @Anon

    Great fact-based comment and succinct, and non-discriminatory.
    Thank you.

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  286. @Randal

    Spiked Online morphed from “Living Marxism”, an organ of Frank Furedi’s Revolutionary Communist Party.

    They are still smarting because Living Marxism libeled ITN with regard to its coverage of the Bosnian war in 1992, and was bankrupted in 2000 by the ensuing court case. This history may account for their wish to remove legal restrictions on free speech.

    The members of the Party decided on the strategy of media entryism: as well as their own online rag, they write for the MSM when they can, and appear on radio and TV. They set up front organisations for specific campaigns. For what overall purpose, is anybody’s guess.

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  287. Weaver1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    At the least Marx identified as ethnically mixed or foreign, which isn’t the same as “100% German”. His yellow skin, due to disease (I’m no dermatologist), could have also given him the perception of being somehow foreign.

    I’m from the US South. However, I’m quite aware of my British descent. Marx also knew his descent. Additionally, his nephew was part black, and Marx was quite aware of that. (Interesting that google no longer brings up the articles on Marx’s nephew…)

    Similarly, an ethnic German is likely to be descended from a particular part of Germany, which can be significant (or was in the past). A family’s class or historic profession (or urban vs. rural) can also be significant.

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  288. @joescomment

    The Ashkenazi were people from the Caucus region who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. They are not descendants of Abraham that anyone knows of.

    This theory (that the Ashkenazim are descended from the Khazars) has been debunked. Genetically they appear to be roughly half Italian (i.e. Roman) and half Middle Eastern. They speak a language, Yiddish, that is a dialect of Old High German – which fits the usual theory of early migration to the Rhineland followed by dispersal mainly to the East – but is hard to explain if they are Khazars.

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  289. AaronB says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That’s because you think in a simplistic and linear fashion. Guy says he’s a Christian with no connection to Judaism, must be true. Guy can’t be subject to the atavistic pull of ethnic identity. Human consciousness is a clear pane of glass, we understand ourselves and our motives perfectly, and there are no opaque unconscious forces, nor is there such a thing as self-deception. Or conscious deception of others.

    The world is clear and bright and simple, organized according to rational principles, meritocracy is real, and the enlightenment is the best way to understand the world.

    At the bottom of your attitude is a desire NOT to see. You WILL NOT see. That’s why you will make this comment again and again, and never allow yourself to understand.

    At bottom, despite your tremendous intelligence and vast erudition, you have a faith. And you will not challenge it.

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  290. @utu

    What about the plague thing? Many Jews were tried for spreading it, for poisoning wells and so on. Just because they were tortured and terrorized (all of those who confessed?) does it mean that there is no grain of truth in the accusations? Does the argument that witches do not exist (now) but still they were found guilty of witchcraft by courts in Middle Ages really absolve the Jews of having anything to do with plague?

    Free speech is a good thing; but if you go around telling people that Jews were guilty of spreading the medieval plague, you are likely to find yourself committed to a lunatic asylum. Not because you have offended anyone, but out of a genuine concern for your sanity.

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  291. @Weaver1

    Color skin is not identity. Marx was darker than usual North Germans (hence a nickname “Moor”), but it has nothing to do with national identity (which, after all, would not be noticeable among Mediterranean peoples like Italians, where “Nordic” type of racism was incomprehensible).

    Marx’s nephew -who was this? Only possibly “black connection” is his son-in-law, Paul Lafargue, who was a creole from the French Antilles & about whom Engels & Marx exchanged tasteless racialist jokes.

    This is young Marx:

    Jenny & Laura Marx:

    What on earth makes these people “non-white”?

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  292. @Tyrion 2

    Yes, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks is one of the best.

    It is worth pointing out that 70% of British Jews vote Conservative. The Conservative Party, rightly or wrongly, has a reputation for managing the economy better than the Labour Party. America’s Republicans have not had this reputation at least as far back as the Great Depression, and so instead of the economy they tend to emphasise “culture wars” and nationalism, which are unattractive to most Jewish voters.

    Although British Jews are mostly Conservative, those in the media tend towards the radical Left. Sacks is a rare voice of sanity.

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  293. @AaronB

    That’s because you think in a simplistic and linear fashion. Guy says he’s a Christian with no connection to Judaism, must be true. Guy can’t be subject to the atavistic pull of ethnic identity. Human consciousness is a clear pane of glass, we understand ourselves and our motives perfectly, and there are no opaque unconscious forces, nor is there such a thing as self-deception. Or conscious deception of others.

    This is typical of your way of thinking: there is something to it, it is not vacuous, but you mess what you want to say with confusing digressions.

    Let’s try to put it in a more orderly fashion.

    Perhaps there could be “hidden motives” for Marx’s behavior, some sinister anti-European conspiracy? This is, as anyone conversant with reality & history knows is not the case.

    What about subconscious Marx’s motives? He could very well be propelled by destructive elements in his personality, his temperament etc. There could be some truth in it. But- there is nothing specifically Jewish about it-violent revolutionaries who were completely “Aryan”, for instance Gracchus Babeuf, Blanqui, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Nechayev, Engels, Georges Sorel ..shared the same violent temper & radical views on utter transformation of society after some sort of apocalyptic explosion (these types are rendered in Turgenev’s novel “Fathers and Children”). Anarchists, Blanquists & revolutionaries.

    Nothing particularly Jewish.

    On the other hand, could it be that, as in Jungian earlier phases, that various human races & sub-races possess different collective unconscious? Jungian Collective Unconscious is, in its classical exposition, the superconsciousness of archetypes that belong to all humankind (Self, Anima, Animus,… and its symbols as the Fool, Trickster, Axis Mundi etc.). A more appropriate term would be the Universal Unconscious.

    Just, in early stages of its development, Jung thought of it as something quasi-racial. So, Northern “races” (Germans, English,..) would dream of, say, woods, snow & polar bears; Jews & Arabs would be dreaming of the desert, oases & camels.

    Only, Jung dropped this idea & there is not a shred of evidence that this “racial” unconscious exists. Whether his universal archetypes exist is also problematic, but “racial” ones certainly don’t.

    So- Marx cannot be blamed for unconsciously acting either from personal malice or ethnic, subconscious “Jewish” malice & destructiveness (if something like this exists at all).

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  294. Weaver1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    He would have identified as being ethnically Jewish. Jews

    Let me ask you this: Does an Orthodox Jew identify as European? No. He identifies as Jewish, Semitic, Middle Eastern. Is Palestine part of Germany or even Europe? Jews identify as having separate religious (etc.) customs and a separate genetic identity.

    I acknowledge some Jews clearly see themselves as European today, might have in Marx’s time. But it’s conjecture.

    -

    Marx suffered from ill health. Supposedly his skin was “yellowish” (which makes me think of jaundice), which can be a sign of mixed heritage. Wikipedia mentions he either had a liver problem or perhaps hidradenitis suppurativa.

    I can’t find my source that accused him of having yellowish skin. I just remember reading it. Clearly he had some sort of ailment.

    -

    Yes, Paul Lafargue is whom I was thinking of as the “nephew”. I tried googling the topic to be sure I was correct in my details, but google no longer works for that topic. Marx once said LaFargue was helping to solve the “race problem” or something like that.

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  295. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @the Supreme Gentleman

    Are we supposed to be happy that ugly, hateful Jewish men are taking our healthy beautiful White/Nordic women as wives, minstresses or just corrupting them in to porn/prostitution?

    Maybe we should be happy that Tiger Woods, OJ every single NBA and NFL thug goes for White women.

    This is called race mixing you F#*$&# idiot.

    In the Aryan Hindu Religion (Yes, the original Hindu Aryans where White Indo Europeans) race mixing, caste/varna mixing is the greatest sin, the sign of the End Times.

    OK, so we do not want our entire civilization to be destroyed by race mixing. Just look at the skank daughter of beautiful Nordic Christie Brinkley and Jewish pop singer Billie Joel. Oy Veh is she ugly.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/alexa-ray-joel-daughter-billy-joel-christie-brinkley-hospital-suicide-attempt-article-1.432738

    “Chapter 1:

    On the destruction of a tribe the ancient virtue of the tribe and family is lost; with the loss of virtue, vice and impiety overwhelm the whole of a race. From the influence of impiety the females of a family grow vicious; and from women that are become vicious are born the spurious caste called Varna-Sankara. Corruption of caste is a gate of hell, both for these destroyers of a tribe and for those who survive; and their forefathers, being deprived of the ceremonies of cakes and water offered to their manes, sink into the infernal regions. By the crimes of the destroyers of a tribe and by those who cause confusion of caste, the family virtue and the virtue of a whole tribe are forever done away with; and we have read in sacred writ, O Krishna, that a sojourn in hell awaits those mortals whose generation hath lost its virtue.”

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  296. utu says:
    @James N. Kennett

    You are saying that speculating or researching whether there is a grain of truth to medieval accusation of Jewish connection to the Plague is absolutely beyond the pale. Do you think that wondering about veracity of blood libel stories also qualifies you for a lunatic asylum? What about Ariel Toaff?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Toaff
    certain criminal acts, disguised as crude rituals, were indeed committed by extremist groups or by individuals demented by religious mania and blinded by desire for revenge against those considered responsible for their people’s sorrows and tragedies

    It is interesting that conditioning and creating taboos works so well particularly among intelligent and well educated segment of society. A belief in flat earth or moon made of cheese does not evoke that intense and strong reaction as any question about blood libel or Black Death and Jewish connection.

    I am not asking to believe in it but I am asking to reevaluate it and see what evidence is there.

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  297. This article is bent on obfuscation and is shown for such by several clear, concise and factual comments . Thanks for your clearly reasoned responses which expose such “goboldy gook”.

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  298. anon • Disclaimer says:

    ” This answer fell out of fashion, at least in polite society, after World War II”

    It did not fall out of fashion because of some new understand and explanations but because of fear,sanctions,innuendo,and pure physical attacks against those who would question the roles of the Zionist in the destruction of the human communities. The Zionist used money media and murder as tools to get there .

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  299. @Doug

    This math is very iffy. Without a doubt, the distribution is only normal-ish, not truly Gaussian, and this mostly shows in the tails. Any estimate for 3 sigmas and above is a guesstimate at best

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  300. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “To understand the alt-right’s anti-Semitism, we must understand MacDonald’s ideas, particularly as outlined in his most influential book, The Culture of Critique.”—

    No we don’t need

    To understand we should hear what Mr Marshall of Truman administration , Mr Fullbroght of US Senate , Admiral Moorer of US Navy, Goldwater in 1987, Nixon on tapes, Bush Sr in 1990 had to say about the sinister thuggery anti national practices of the Zionist .
    WE should ask why Obama was hated, why pre presidential Trump had to endure, what Howard Dean had to succumb to, what Military brass Dempsey had to articulate and had to go through , what Petraeus had to endure, what the anti- Iran brigade had to engage in, what the cabals did in OSP of Bush Jr Cabinet and what roles the cabals play now to instigate war against Iran

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  301. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    You are seemingly simply unable to perceive your own bias.

    You claimed that the Chabloz prosecution was just one of many similar prosecutions not involving “anti-Semitism”. It isn’t, and I pointed that out to you. There have been other prosecutions for abstract speech or art, but not many and certainly not enough to suggest Spiked was swamped with potential cases to write about, as you imply. Which is not to say that the campaign to normalise censorship of politically incorrect doesn’t proceed on multiple fronts, just that the enforcement of the antisemitism taboo is a remarkably strong part of it.

    You claimed that Spiked just ignored it because it was typical (whereas as has been shown, it is not), and claimed that a couple of irrelevant and ineffectual mentions of defending “anti-Semites” proved that Spiked resists censorship of “anti-Semitism” just as much as any other censorship. Clearly, this is not true since they pointedly refused to address the highly newsworthy and significant Chabloz case.

    I gave my (inevitably speculative) best guess as to their motivation for their otherwise hard to explain and very pointed failure to exploit what, on the face of it, was a great opportunity to campaign against censorship. It’s not exactly revolutionary to suggest that ethno-religious loyalty and cultural conditioning (Holocaust sacralisation) would influence human behaviour in that way or that Spiked are in fact the hypocrites they appear on this particular topic. In effect, all I am suggesting is that the evidence suggests they are fairly normal human beings, albeit notably hypocritical in this context because of their particular loyalties and backgrounds.

    You have raised no plausible alternative explanation beyond insisting, utterly implausibly, that the first ever private prosecution for “hate speech”, involving an artist prosecuted for merely uploading a satirical song to the internet – a classic case of the kind of censorship that has generated real pushback in the past when it has involved anti-Christian or anti-white “art” – somehow was beneath their notice, or not newsworthy.

    You have simply no answer to my point that you know as well as I do that if this had been a black “artist” prosecuted for uploading some rap shite to the internet, Spiked would have been all over it.

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  302. The author’s make an engrocious miss-representation in the Historical Perspective section, combined with a quite obvious logical fallacy. First off, MacDonald never claims that Jews are uniquely capable of liberalism (as it is understood in today’s American parlance) or even that they are solely responsible for today’s overwhelmingly liberal zeitgeist. He only states that the Jews are visibly inclined to espousing it, for often insincere reasons, and to a far greater extent than the people they live among. The authors do NOTHING to contradict this but seem to agree to MacDonald’s actual position.

    Furthermore, the fact that non-Jews also propagate progressive ideas does nothing to undermine the fact this is so prevalent among Jews as to be considered a particular characteristic. Mentioning Rousseau and the French existentialists doesn’t really follow anywhere, since, again, MacDonald didn’t call out Jews as solely responsible for anything (IIRC). This is why none of its previous commenters actually bothered bringing it up, although I assume they were fully aware of Rousseau and the French existentialist’s role in history.

    The only pertinent critique of MacDonald I am aware of is Paul Gottfried’s (Cofnas is mediocre at best). He argues that MacDonald fails to make a distinction between German Jews and the Easter European Ashkenazim, with the former exhibiting conservative, assimilationist tendencies while the latter fitting MacDonald’s model like a glove. Yes, one of the most competent contemporary political philosophers, probably the man most fit to judge and comment on 20th century political and cultural movements basically agrees with MacDonald, with only a small caveat.

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  303. @Tyrion 2

    The term “intermarriage” is used to described the marriage of a person of one race to a person of another race in most cases. I’ve only seen it used to describe a union of two people of different religions in reference to a jew marrying someone of another religion.

    Jews seem to regard themselves as a race, not as adherents to a religion. Otherwise, how could an atheist or a person who doesn’t adhere to the religion of the rest still be regarded a jew because he was born to jewish parents?

    The rejection, by official Israeli policy, of black African jews as suitable immigrants to Israel shows that this racial view of judaism is a problem for jews overall.

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  304. @Weaver1

    It’s already too long re these details, so I’ll try to sum it up from my point of view.

    He would have identified as being ethnically Jewish. Jews

    No, he wouldn’t. Actually, Marx hated Jews not only as a culture, but even as a “race”. It seems that his cultural dissociation from this ethnicity has, somehow, in his mind meant also “racial” separation. It may now sound weird, but then genetics was non-existent, and at psychological level- absurd as it may seem- Marx definitely saw Jews as the Other (his racist remarks on his rival LaSalle, who was both German patriot & aware of his Jewish roots).

    Read something about the topic, if you are interested.

    Let me ask you this: Does an Orthodox Jew identify as European? No. He identifies as Jewish, Semitic, Middle Eastern. Is Palestine part of Germany or even Europe? Jews identify as having separate religious (etc.) customs and a separate genetic identity.

    I acknowledge some Jews clearly see themselves as European today, might have in Marx’s time. But it’s conjecture.

    Most Orthodox Jews identify as non-Europeans & tend to view themselves as Middle Easterners. Secular Jews – it depends. Einstein, I think, did not consider himself to be an European in a “racial” sense. Most Jewish converts to Christianity (Marx’s father, Mendelssohn, Husserl, Hermann Broch, Karl Kraus,..) thought of themselves as Europeans.

    Marx suffered from ill health. Supposedly his skin was “yellowish” (which makes me think of jaundice), which can be a sign of mixed heritage. Wikipedia mentions he either had a liver problem or perhaps hidradenitis suppurativa.

    In all probability, it has nothing to do with “race”. Perhaps a mixture of hormonal imbalance & psycho-somatic disease, similar to Proust’s asthma?

    Marx once said LaFargue was helping to solve the “race problem” or something like that.

    Marx & Engels thought of Lafargue as partly “niqqer” (although there is no evidence that Lafargue had any African ancestry). Marx consented to this marriage only because, at that time, Lafargue was rich.

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  305. @utu

    In 1948, specialized Israeli military units sabotaged water wells with typhoid and dysentery bacteria in Acre (near Haifa), a rather vicious war crime.

    In 1998, the London Times reported Israel has conducted research into “ethnic bombs,” a “biological weapon that would harm Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and western intelligence sources. … In developing their ‘ethno-bomb’, Israeli scientists are trying to exploit medical advances by identifying distinctive genes carried by some Arabs, then create a genetically modified bacterium or virus. … The programme is based at the biological institute in Nes Tziyona, the main research facility for Israel’s clandestine arsenal of chemical and biological weapons.”

    https://www.sott.net/signs/signs20050126.htm

    Report: Israel Develops New Weapons

    LONDON (AP) — Israel is trying to identity genes carried only by Arabs that could be used to develop a biological weapon that would harm Arabs but not Jews, the Sunday Times reported.

    The newspaper attributed its report to unidentified Israeli military and Western intelligence sources. It said Israeli scientists are working to create a genetically modified bacterium or virus that only attacks people who carry certain genes.

    http://www.excludedmiddle.com/ethnic_weapons.htm

    A new conspiracy theory, voiced by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights about the efforts of US special services to collect biomaterial for the subsequent development of biological weapons against Russia, caused explosive reactions in social media. Putin’s remarks about the biomaterial has become an Internet meme instantly.

    “Do you know that the biological material is collected all over the country for different ethnic groups and peoples living in different geographical area of the Russian Federation? The question is why they are doing it, and they are doing it purposefully and professionally.We are an object of great interest. Of course, we do not need to have any fear about it. Let them do whatever they want, and we must do what we have to do,” Putin said without specifying what the Russians should do in response to such activities.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/11/01/caught-russia-accuses-us-of-genetic-bioweapons-production/

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  306. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Twodees Partain

    The rejection, by official Israeli policy, of black African jews as suitable immigrants to Israel shows that this racial view of judaism is a problem for jews overall.

    Wrong. It’s because they haven’t converted properly through the Chief Rabbinate and so aren’t considered Jews by the Orthodox.

    The term “intermarriage” is used to described the marriage of a person of one race to a person of another race in most cases. I’ve only seen it used to describe a union of two people of different religions in reference to a jew marrying someone of another religion.

    Wrong. The following article uses interfaith marriage and intermarriage as synonyms. Clearly the former is a subset of the latter.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/06/opinion/interfaith-marriages-a-mixed-blessing.html

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  307. @the Supreme Gentleman

    Jews have a matrilineal heritage. So when a jewess outmarries to a gentile ALL of their children are jews. Jews numbers increase and the gentile lineage is reborn kosher.

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  308. Randal says:
    @James N. Kennett

    I think they have some kind of almost culty marxism at their core, but that’s just from reading comments made at their site by insiders and former insiders.

    Living Marxism libeled ITN with regard to its coverage of the Bosnian war in 1992, and was bankrupted in 2000 by the ensuing court case.

    I remember it well, and I’d rather describe it as: Living Marxism were held to have libelled ITN by an establishment court. They did excellent work on the Kosovo war, iirc.

    This history may account for their wish to remove legal restrictions on free speech.

    Probably. Certainly they are as dogmatically pc and anti-racist on most issues as any mainstream outlet.

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  309. Talha says:
    @Randal

    It is enough that we have physical security and that people obey the law in respect of assaults etc. (He did not say the latter but it seems a reasonable extrapolation).

    Indeed, that is exactly what he is getting at. It is one thing to demand that the safety of Muslim (or any other) women be respected by the law, but a whole other to demand that, say, any diner that doesn’t want to serve us, be forced by the law to accommodate us.

    by persecuting people for expressing opinions they generate hatred against themselves, and they gain nothing of long term value.

    This is exactly the trap that I don’t want my fellow Muslims to fall into. Respect, trust and even love is something you earn – not something forced through legislation.

    The problem I see is that some of the younger Muslims are too soft and not comfortable being the odd-man-out or espousing a contrarian tradition (and the consequences that come from it). I remember that a group of White Mormon kids in our high school used to call us wetbacks and a bunch of other things including “smigger” which was a combination of smurf and nigger since some of us were diminutive. And we used to poke fun at them – but we actually had reasonably good relations with them and one was more comfortable in our group than he was with the other Mormons.

    Anyway, being fully accepted in this day and age should actually ring serious alarm bells as Shaykh Adal-Hakim Murad points out – why the hell would we want to be “patted on the head” by the current elite ruling structure and its values?
    “In fact it would be a worrying indictment of the legitimacy of the religion if the modern world outside were to approve of us…We should be proud that the modern world doesn’t like us – that is a sign of authenticity.”

    The issue you point out with not enough Christians pushing back seems to be rooted in their forgetting the maxim; “…be not conformed to this world…”. Christians have gotten a little lazy from being top dog for so long, too many have forgotten how to suffer and struggle for your principles. It’s easier for us; we’re already “the Other” – we just have to own it as a mark of a firm, committed and confident counterculture. Like Dr. Elmasry stated; if we suffer some in the process – it’s worth the cost.

    Though I must admit, I have been impressed by certain Christians who are starting to push back (within the limits of acceptable discourse, of course). Robert P. George (of Princeton Univ.) comes to mind – I had a brief online exchange with him – very respectful, knowledgeable man.

    Peace.

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  310. Weaver1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bardon Kaldian,

    I’m saying Marx would have identified as a person having some Jewish ancestry. I have Marx’s book where he condemns Jews, but he would have been aware of his own ancestry.

    My original comment was:

    “At the least Marx identified as ethnically mixed or foreign, which isn’t the same as “100% German”. ”

    I’m sorry if I used poor wording in the most recent reply. Ancestry needn’t be binary. What Marx truly identified as is conjecture; but unless it can be shown he was unaware of his partial Jewish ancestry, it likely mattered to him.

    TS Eliot highlighted why secular Jews (note the word “secular”) are a concern, in his “anti-Semitic statement”: They identify with coming from a different ethnicity and religious tradition. If Marx identified as partly alien from Germany, then that could well have mattered.

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  311. utu says:
    @redmudhooch

    Interesting.

    Biological warfare was known in ancient times. Accurate germ theory is not needed to conduct effective biological warfare. Vaccinations preceded Pasteur.

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  312. MarkinLA says:
    @joescomment

    IQ is a measure of education and not really intelligence.

    This is not entirely true because IQ tests are timed. Higher IQ people usually come up with the answers much faster. This ability to see the answer faster is a component of intelligence. It isn’t the be-all and end-all but it is important. Most people do not take classes where this ability is important so it is easy to discount it. However, if you ever take high level math and physics courses there are always the very few students who are simply on another level compared to the rest of those in the class.

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  313. renfro says:

    Well you all have once again fallen into the trap of discussing the Jew’s identity, religion, marriages, IQ, whiteness, or not, who is a Jew or not, etc.etc.etc…ad infinitum .

    Frankly the Jewish cult isnt that interesting, a cult is a cult, but people get suckered into thinking they are by articles like this whose purpose is to make the droppings and innards of Jews important to you.

    All you need to know about the Jews you can see in their PATTERN of behavior thru out the centuries and nations they have lived in.

    I can probably come back here in 10 years, after they have sucked the US into more wars for Israel, and you will still be examining the Jewish navel.

    They are what they are….dangerous to America and other living things, period.

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  314. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    The documents prepared by PNAC crowd of psychopaths do mention or did mention the advantage of having this race specific weapon.

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  315. Art says:
    @AaronB

    General German decline and lassitude may have led to loose sexual morality, and the same factor may be responsible for Jews rising to the top.

    AaronB,

    Just because you can – doesn’t me you should. Playing on societies weaknesses is evil. Pushing people to choose excitement over stability and serenity is very wrong. Tempting people to do things that destabilize their lives is wrong.

    Why are Jews so involved in weakening society? Sex, gambling, and debt are Jewish industries. Jewish commie Marxism and socialism plays on negative jealousy and hate!

    The smart Big Jews lead society backwards into instability – and the not so smart Little Jews follow like lemmings.

    Think Peace — Art

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  316. @Threestars

    Yeah, I hate when they make those engrocious miss-representations.

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  317. @Tyrion 2

    You’re explaining this from a jewish viewpoint, but it’s apparent to everyone outside your little tribe that black jews can’t be considered jews because they are black. African jews who are born to African jewish parents are allowed to immigrate to Israel? Since when? Your tribe claims to be a race, period. It has been so for over a hundred years, so you may as well stop denying it.

    Linking to one single example of a jewish writer in the NYT confusing the two terms only proves my point, not yours.

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  318. Svigor says:

    This is wrong kind of thinking, because this ethnicity has different, national religion/culture.

    The apposite question would be: how many American Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Hindus or Muslims (religious or not) outmarry?

    This was addressed in the comment: atheist/agnostic/non-observant/irreligious/secular/etc. Jews are included in all of the relevant studies; if they weren’t, it wouldn’t make sense to use the numbers from those studies to argue that Jews aren’t ethnocentric.

    Most Jews aren’t religious. But most do seem to think they’re being clever when they play the “Jewish identity” shell game.

    Tldr. Jews consider it intermarriage because it is interfaith. It makes the ceremony complicated. Duh!

    Again, this is a Jew fig leaf:

    Irreligious and even atheistic Jews are counted in the studies and the figures they produce.

    Jews who call “intermarriage” a “silent holocaust” don’t limit the discussion to observant Jews; they think it’s a “silent holocaust” when non-observant Jews “outmarry,” too.

    Jews use the “Jewish intermarriage” rates to argue that Jews aren’t ethnocentric, they don’t add any religious qualifiers.

    You guys are Jew apologists. Ethnocentrists. Be men and own that shit.

    Stop being weasels. Nobody respects a shyster.

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  319. Mulegino1 says:
    @renfro

    Exactly. It is their collective behavior that is the issue. Witness their propensity to take total responsibility for their tribe’s “collective achievement” – Nobel prizes, financial success, etc., and their complete eschewing of tribal responsibility for any wrongdoing, such as involvement in the communist revolutions of the early 1900′s and their propensity for propagating sewage within cultures a la Weimar and Hollywood.

    To paraphrase Gerard Menuhin- if all Jews were like the Menuhin family (and let us add Bobby Fischer, Gilad Atzmon, and their like to that list) there would be no such thing as anti-Semitism. It is their very irritating and culturally subversive behavior, not the fact that they wear beanies or shout “Mazel Tov” at weddings, that is the cause of the animosity towards them. And the most intelligent among them know this-but they just cannot keep their paranoid and litigious mouths shut.

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  320. Svigor says:

    Judaism isn’t really a religion, anyway. It’s not about your beliefs. It’s about Jews’ beliefs about you. They get to veto your membership in their religion.

    In other words, it’s a proxy for Jewish ethnicity. Judaism is the tribal religion of the Jews. Some Jews are into it, and they’re Jews. Others are atheists, and they’re Jews, too. It’s the ethnic part that really matters to all but a small minority of Jews.

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  321. Svigor says:

    What Jews get wrong about the Alt-right.

    Is that sentence any more or less racial than the title of the article?

    More, much more. In that you’re ascribing a fairly uniform opinion to an ethno-religious group rather than ascribing a fairly uniform opinion to a fairly uniform opinion.

    Wrong as usual. “Jews” can refer to all Jews, or Schlomo and That Jewish Ho Over There. Since you are a Jew first and a person second, you insist on projecting the former. But since pretty much nobody ever accuses “all” Jews of anything much, this Jewish tic does little more than present your bias.

    A reasonable assumption, sans body text to make a rigorous determination, is that it should be read as “What Jews tend to get wrong” or “What too many Jews get wrong or,” etc.

    And you even managed to be wrong in the other direction: there are philo-semitic and philo-agnostic Alt-Righters, too.

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  322. Svigor says:

    “Philo-agnostic,” lol. Meant to type something like “Jew-neutral” but brain-farted instead.

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  323. @mark green

    My TV interview with MacDonald

    I had been meaning to ask you whether you were the same Mark Green. I was about 80% sure you were. That is a very good interview. I think I ran across it several years ago and it was my first exposure to KMac’s analysis of these matters. I think that interview was one thing (among a number of other things, of course..) that unlocked certain things for me. Thank you for that.

    Mark, I don’t have any way of contacting you outside of this site. I would appreciate if you dropped me a private email. revusky (at) gmail

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  324. Svigor says:

    Ive been pro white, [actually also pro sane people] and vote “Right wing” all my life. (As much as the GOP can be right wing, which is a laugh..)

    I grew up in a right-wing family with big military brass.

    Communism, Progressivism, Liberalism, Leftism, Socialism is a foreign ideology and I cant ever embrace it. Its just against the nation.

    I am not the ONLY right wing Jew out there as this post mentions. There are a lot of us out there.. Problem is: Right wing Jewish blogs, sites, etc get banned, tagged by google as ‘racist’. Kept out of stat counters, you name it.

    I find it very taxing when my right wing op seems to make lots of ‘alt righters’ cry like little babies. Truly, many alt righters are just former Leftists with all the trappings of the SJW mindset.

    I would be with the alt right and support them if many of them didnt act like babies.

    Person above says that “Jews like dominating the convo”. No, they just have the biggest mouths at the worst times.

    “Goyim” is not a bad word, btw, Svigor. But, if you want to feel like you’re some type slave, oppressed by Jews and ONLY Jews, knock your socks off.

    More power to you. You are, unfortunately, part of a tiny minority. To make matters worse, most of the right-wing Jews seem to do more Jewish Apology and attempting to suppress ANTI-SEMITISM!!! in right-wing venues than converting their own tribe to our side.

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  325. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Twodees Partain

    There are loads of black jewish citizens in Israel. There are a surprising number of black Jews at my synagogue in London. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about. Furthermore, I proved you dead wrong.

    You’re dumber than the writers at EverydayFeminism and they do it just to scam money from half-wits.

    I didn’t agree with Noah Rothman until I started debating with you guys but you really are just a bunch of SJW types. It is so cringeworthy. I’m out of here. You’ve blackpilled me on the future of the West. Is there anyone sane left?

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  326. Talha says:
    @Svigor

    Judaism isn’t really a religion, anyway….It’s about Jews’ beliefs about you.

    I don’t see why it can’t be both.

    They get to veto your membership in their religion.

    We’re as universalist a religion as it gets, but we’ll boot your apostate backside out if you go theologically AWOL like the Ahmadis.

    Judaism is the tribal religion of the Jews.

    Bingo! See – it’s both.

    Peace.

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  327. Svigor says:

    That blind spot is, more than anything, the reason for the (very real) conspiracy being interpreted as the work of ‘THE’ Jews rather than a group of Jews. The overwhelming majority of Jews turn two blind eyes to anything and everything even remotely villainous perpetrated by Israel or other Jews. Past or present or openly planned for the future.

    YYYYEP. This does fall under the category of accusations I would make about almost all Jews (there are a few Righteous Jews excepted, of course).

    Great comment all around, btw.

    Yet, they’ll come out of the proverbial woodwork to band together and shut down any and all criticism of Jews in a hail of Semitic cries of victimization, no matter how legitimate the claims against them are.

    It’s great when Jews swarm in an ethnocentric frenzy to defend their tribe and prove to everyone how un-ethnocentric they are.

    If I thought brains worked that way, I’d say Jews have the double gene for this trait.

    That (understandably) makes it hard for a lot of people out there to look at any Jews as operating outside of some unified, subversive collective. Even though there’s plenty of Jews who reap no more benefit from their Jewish privilege card than I do my White privilege card.

    That’s one of the great thing about “white privilege” cards; Jews are disproportionately fond of insisting that Whites benefit from them. When they aren’t cracking that stale joke about their “Jewish privilege” cards being lost in the mail for the umpteenth time, I mean.

    Speaking of Righteous Jews – hey Ron Unz, I keep meaning to ask you this and keep forgetting; is there some reason that CTRL-F (“find in page”) doesn’t find comment numbers in TUR threads in any of my browsers? E.g., type in 100, comment 100 isn’t picked up by the search.

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