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Prior to Hillary Clinton’s attack on it in her acceptance speech at the Democratic Party Convention last year, few Americans had heard of the alt-right.

Hillary’s dramatic disquisition tried to conjure up nightmarish specters of radical anti-Semites, goose-stepping neo-Nazis, Klansmen in white robes, and of course the closet white supremacists at Breitbart.com. While the alt-right has attracted a few disreputable characters, the white nationalism defended by, say, Richard Spencer who coined the term alt-right, strikes me (if I may say so without the roof caving in) as somewhat more modest. As I understand the basic idea, the alt-right takes the view that whites (especially white males — maybe more specifically, straight white Christian males) have been deprived of their identity by the identity politics industry of the Left that emanates from academia and permeates our political moment. The alt-right wants an identity politics for white people (white males, straight white males, etc.). Whites are entitled to their “safe spaces”; they, like black students with their own cultural centers, Harvard graduations, etc., should be able to associate only with other white people if that is their choice.

The alt-right opposes multiculturalism is an unworkable recipe for cultural chaos. Contrary to the campus cliché, diversity is not our strength. Look at the conflicts that have erupted on campuses where the church of diversity has established its rituals and erected its altars. Prevailing ideas about open borders, moreover, or economists’ dogma that free migration is “good for the economy,” are open to dispute. Look at the chaos sweeping parts of Europe in the wake of mass migrations of unassimilable migrants from the Middle East and Africa.

There is thus more to the alt-right than just its defense of an identity politics for people with white skin. Steve Bannon once self-identified as an economic nationalist, and there is good reason to believe Donald Trump’s original America First proposals derived from this same sentiment. The world is not, and should not be transformed into, a single borderless marketplace woven together with multilateral “free trade” agreements. This notion actually has appeal across the political spectrum. Many who supported Bernie Sanders would agree. On this point, their views were closer to Trump’s and Bannon’s than to those of Clinton (who was “for” the Trans-Pacific Partnership before she was “against” it).

What should be clear: the alt-right represents pushback against two tendencies: the increasingly open anti-white tenor of much intellectual conversation, and the globalizing, cosmopolitan forces that have placed much of the white working class at a disadvantage. As for the first, what are we to say when a tenured professor at a major university speaks of wanting “white genocide” for Christmas and then insists he was only being satirical?

Be this as it may, according to the view I shall develop, is that what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea. Surely its goodness or rightness is not self-evident. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!

On the other hand, what is right with the alt-right is its suggestion, however uncomfortable in our administratively integrated, cosmopolitan, globalized times, that freedom of association is desirable. Might it not be worth asking — dare we ask it and risk being demonized? — if we wouldn’t all be better off with the mere possibility of full freedom of association? Yes: full, unconditional freedom of association means freedom to associate or not associate — for those who want such freedom. This means the freedom of a group of whatever identity to exclude and even to separate if that is their choice — a choice already made, at least in part, by universities who establish black-only facilities and graduation ceremonies.

To the Left, this is of course heresy! It’s racist!Xenophobic!White supremacist!To a gulag, you! Leftists, when they deign to be polite, will scold us about how “white men have power” (look how much of Congress is white and male, or how many CEOS are white men). The Left’s conception of racism combines racial animus and superiority with the presumed political-economic and cultural power of the majority group, which explains the otherwise inexplicable belief that blacks cannot be racists even when suggesting that white people be killed. We are not supposed to ask snarky questions about how much “white privilege” has been required for the decline of a significant percentage of the white working class into poverty, substance abuse, and suicide, especially since the 2008 financial crisis.

I will thus add, as quickly as possible: my suggestion for freedom of association does not entail segregation, is not a general recommendation I would see imposed on peoples as new (or old) policy: multi-ethnic interactions and associations can be good for those involved. But I will argue what would be obvious from history if facts truly mattered: they cannot be forced on peoples with wills, habits, and cultures of their own. Freedom of choice therefore should trump the blunt instruments of administrative-state policy.

Hopefully our diagnosis and multi-layered recommendations will shed some light on what might fix our present unhappy state of affairs, however great the unlikelihood they will ever be allowed voluntarily. The recommendations here will call on readers to step outside their philosophical boxes. We need, first of all, a short journey through the history of ideas. I know this won’t be everyone’s cup of tea. But there are no easy ways into this.

I.

We may divide modern Western philosophical thought, beginning shortly after the start of the scientific revolution (16th and 17th centuries), into three loose and overlapping epochs: early modern philosophy, late modern philosophy, and contemporary philosophy (much of which could be labeled antiphilosophy).

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Early modern philosophy began with French rationalist René Descartes (1596 – 1650) and British political philosopher Thomas Hobbes (1588 – 1679). Descartes, aware of the diversity of beliefs and ideas uncovered around the world during the early Age of Exploration, sought a new grounding for knowledge that would apply universally — a premise of the main sequence of Western thought going back at least to Plato. He contended he had found it in the celebrated cogito (“I think, therefore I am”). Hobbes set about justifying the state as the locus of power in civil society, apart from which the life of man is “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.” He claimed to have found that in — what else? — the British monarchy. Early modern philosophy’s final two major spokesmen were British philosophers David Hume (1711 – 1776) and Adam Smith (1723 – 1790), the latter better known for founding classical economics based on the market’s “invisible hand” although prior to The Wealth of Nations he’d penned a treatise on ethics.

Despite vast differences of detail, early modern philosophers had one thing in common: what we might call a presumption of transparency about experience and/or reason as a source of knowledge and judge of truth. Without worrying about the technicalities: what you see (or conclude by reason), allowing for our capacity to correct errors, is what you get (wysiwyg). For the British empiricists — Hobbes, John Locke (1632 – 1704), Hume, and Smith being examples — the human mind is a “blank slate” (tabula rasa) on which experience writes.

This was too simple, and by Hume’s time, was encountering difficulties, e.g., we have no sense experience of a God or the moral dimensions of actions and events — problems that were weightier in the 1700s than they are today. There were others besides. Hume became famous — or infamous — for his claim that inferences about cause and effect are habits of thought. We don’t experience a “power” (his term) called causality in the world. All we observe is a constant association between the cause and the effect leading to a psychological expectation that when we see the one the other will follow.

To a scientist, e.g., working in Newtonian physics, this made no sense. Hume may have not ever have accidentally touched a hot burner. But surely something had gone wrong.

German philosopher Immanuel Kant (1724 – 1804) was the pivotal figure leading from early to late modern philosophy by attempting an answer to Hume. Again leaving the technicalities aside (all 2,000 pages of them!), what Kant did was throw cold water on early modern philosophy’s presumption of transparency. The mind, said Kant, is not a “blank slate.” It is structured, active, and employs a matrix of categories (Kategorien). He introduced what I will call a presumption of mediation. Experience is mediated by categories of the understanding. This is how reason actually works, and it works the same for all persons since we all use logic. Whatever exists “prior to” the categories is a Ding-an-Sich (thing-in-itself) about which we can say nothing. The categories are a priori “lenses” through which we view the world. The job of the philosopher is to work out the details.

Bottom line, though: what you see is not necessarily what you get (wysiwyg goes out the window)!

It was this, by the way, that drew upon Kant the undying wrath of philosopher-novelist Ayn Rand (1905 – 1982). She accused him of “divorcing reason from reality” and portrayed him as the primary intellectual villain of modern times. Miss Rand held out for a presumption of transparency in our sense of that phrase. In terms of objective reality, egoist self, and skyscraper-building capitalism, wysiwyg.

Be that as it may, after Kant late modern philosophy fragmented in multiple directions — sometimes over different interpretations of exactly what he said, what it meant, and what the mediators of experience were. There wasn’t really a single “late modern philosophy” but several of them, and as decades passed they had less and less in common. Some stuck close to science; others recoiled from it. Kant had penned a classic statement: “What Is Enlightenment?” (1784). He called for a universal subjection of dogma, especially church dogma, to the microscope of critical thinking and analysis — for the human race to grow into a cognitive adulthood of logical self-reliance instead of dependence on authority, especially ecclesiastical. By the mid-1800s Kant’s philosophical descendants — on this point, at least — would settle on science as the mediator of knowledge, truth, and proper method.

Thus arose the strain of Enlightenment thought gave us modernity in a broad sense: science as arbiter of truth, technology as applied science, commerce dispensing the fruits of our achievements, free public education for the next generation, the administrative or bureaucratic institutions of government providing systems of law and regulation within which commerce could thrive and people would be protected, and a presumption of universal progress holding that knowledge would continue expanding, technology would continue improving the human condition, and economic growth would continue bringing material benefits to all who were willing to work to achieve them: “bourgeois civilization” in a broad sense.

Arguably, modernity became self-aware with the Law of Three Stages formulated by French sociologist-philosopher Auguste Comte (1798 – 1857). According to Comte, within Western civilization we had seen progress through three stages or states or conditions, the religious or fictitious, the metaphysical or abstract (or “philosophical”), and the scientific or positive. Positivism proposed to light the way to a shining city on a hill — a city enshrining science and technique as its unofficial theologies. Neither scientists nor scientific philosophers worried overly about Kantian mediators. Their attitude was pragmatic. Science and technology worked, in the sense of solving human problems. Commercial capitalism came as part of this package. It also solved problems, while creating levels of wealth never before seen, even by royalty. Comte, a socialist, would not have approved, but commercial men didn’t ask him. The train of modernity accelerated, and the standard of living increased by leaps and bounds.

II.

A different strand of late modern philosophy saw something darker.

Hobbes, mentioned above, had a notoriously cynical view of human nature — from which we get the adjective Hobbesian for social situations of unrestrained competition among the self-interested. Hobbes was, in today’s terms, a psychological egoist — asserting that human beings are by nature selfish, greedy, grasping, conniving; one of the jobs of the state is to control these traits which make life in the state of nature the nasty affair it is. French philosophe Claude Adrien Helvétius (1715 – 1771) built on this with a theory of ideology: ideas are put forth and used not with the intent of getting at the truth but advancing interests — one’s own or that of one’s group.

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Georg W.F. Hegel (1770 – 1831), the next major figure in German philosophy after Kant, emphasized historical development, and his variant on the presumption of mediation saw something Kant had passed over: the difference between the Master (Lordship, Herrschaft) and the Slave (Bondage, Knechtschaft), which eventually became archetypes of a sort for groups with interests who because of their deeply contrasting social status experience the world in incommensurable ways.

Master-consciousness, that is, mediates experience in one way: in terms of power, opulence, privilege, ease. Slave-consciousness inhabits a different world: one of hardship, deprivation, servitude, powerlessness. Never the twain shall meet in the sense of a meeting of minds (the rough meaning of that $50 word incommensurable).

Hegel saw history as driven by violent clashes between the two. The outcome of these clashes resulted in novel societal states of affairs that began the process over again (as this is informally expressed: thesis, antithesis, synthesis). Again, I am greatly simplifying, but hopefully you get an idea where this is going. Unless you really want that 2,000 pages.

Hegelians — those who saw Hegel’s writings and concepts as akin to Scripture (but less readable) — divided into two camps which have been warring ever since. We’ll honor convention and call them right-wing and left-wing Hegelians. Right-wing Hegelians championed the consciousness and values of the Master, just as those who championed the traditional monarchy sat on the right side of the French assembly. Left-wing Hegelians sided with the Slave, just as those who championed the new “liberated” order sat to the left.

The former prized courage, strength, or might, and saw these embodied in patriotism, militarism, national pride, and in the rising nation state and its heroes. To right-wing Hegelians the Master was best suited to carry history forward to its ultimate goal, the physical realization of the Absolute in the triumph of the all-powerful State. Figures such as Friedrich List (1789 – 1846) and his celebration of the national political economy, or Thomas Carlyle (1795 – 1881) and his concept of the “great man,” come to mind.

And while rejecting as foolish the idea that history was moving toward some ideal state or condition, Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 – 1900) clearly drew on many of the values of right-wing Hegelians with his revaluation of all values, extracting Christian moral premises from the picture. Nietzsche distinguished clearly between the Master’s moral dichotomy of good versus bad (that which inconveniences or thwarts the Master’s will) and the Slave’s morality of good versus evil (the Slave’s term for the Master’s power-focused goals and techniques, justified by superior position alone).

Left-wing Hegelians, as we said, took sides with history’s Slaves and tried to articulate the specifics of Slave consciousness. What legitimated the Slave’s consciousness over that of the Master was its direct contact with the material world through hard physical labor, the starting-point of all production. The Master’s opulence and privilege was gained at the expense of the Slave, who could become conscious of this! Left-wing Hegelians thus saw the Slave’s suffering and his will to rebel and overthrow his Master as the true drivers of history.

Karl Marx (1818 – 1883) and Friedrich Engels (1820 – 1895) are the obvious exemplars. In their hands, merging a materialist view of the world with Hegel’s view of history (“dialectical materialism”), this became the “inevitable” revolution of the proletariat: workers with only their labor to sell, against the bourgeoisie: capitalists, owners of the means of production, controllers of the relations of production, creators of surplus value (profit), unearned as it did not result from labor. Human consciousness, according to dialectical materialism, is a product of material relations, not the reverse. Material relations, that is, are the primary mediators of thought — not abstract Kantian categories. They give rise to all social relations and culture. Capital accumulation was the primary economic and therefore social reality of the times.

With the replacement of global capitalism by global socialism, the state, under sway of the Master, would wither away, not become “absolute,” when true Communism was realized at the End of History: the Slave’s triumph in liberation from slavery! True Communism as Marx envisioned it (not to be confused with what the Soviets and Maoists established) would abolish the Master-Slave dichotomy by having ended its material conditions: private property owned by the Master, control over production by the Master, and over unearned capital accumulation in the hands of the Master.

III.

That isn’t what happened, of course. What went wrong with this agenda, and what replaced it? Once we have some answers here, we’ll be prepared to return to the alt-right.

What happened was the replacement of economic Marxism with cultural Marxism. Cultural Marxism is not a “conspiracy theory.” It was a strategy early twentieth century Marxists developed when they realized that the proletariat had no interest in overthrowing the bourgeoisie; the proletariat wanted to join the bourgeoisie. Courtesy of the capitalist engine’s capacity to create and distribute wealth for the majority of those willing to work to achieve it, a financially independent middle class was growing, outside Hegelian Master-Slave categorization. Other things being equal, many in the working class would have joined it in just one or two more generations.

Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci (1891 – 1937) and Hungarian Marxist Györgi Lukácz (1885 – 1971) thus proposed that a purely economic Marxism was a losing proposition. To succeed in overthrowing capitalism, they would have to broaden their agenda. They would need a major paradigm shift concerning what were the primary mediators of consciousness in civilization: from economics alone back to the full range of beliefs, habits, practices, and institutions that constitute what we call culture, so they could launch an attack on every aspect of the culture of capitalism, not just its economics. They incorporated ideas from the psychoanalysis of Sigmund Freud (1856 – 1939) to de-Christianize Western civilization while encouraging a fascination with sex especially among the young, and one did not have to be a Freudian to recognize the power of the unleashed libido.

The cultural Marxists founded the Frankfurt School to further their goals; it moved to New York City in the 1930s to escape the Nazis, whose acts gave them the idea of using the term fascist to discredit their critics and opponents. From their new home base at the New School for Social Research they launched critical theory, as they called it: its goal being to criticize all the institutions and practices of bourgeois civilization. Among the chief luminaries of this school were Theodor Adorno (1903 – 1969) and Herbert Marcuse (1898 – 1979). The former penned a work entitled The Authoritarian Personality (1950). This book was a textbook exercise in critical theory, redefining traditional sex roles and sexual mores as prejudices suggestive of fascist temptations. The latter built on this with Eros and Civilization (1955) which combined Freud and Marx into a single analysis holding that sexual repression was an essential feature of capitalist culture. Combined with the Rockefeller-bankrolled Kinsey studies, Marcuse’s work propelled the sexual revolution that would change the face of the culture in the 1960s.

Marcuse went further by resurrecting the presumption of mediation in the guise the cultural Marxist brand of left-wing Hegelianism needed: the forging of a coalition of those with Slave consciousness — the “victims” of capitalist civilization, initially limited to blacks but quickly including women, homosexuals, and eventually transsexuals (in today’s jargon, transgenders). Marcuse also penned an essay entitled “Repressive Tolerance” (1965). This essay introduced the idea that permitting the Master the same free speech rights as the Slave only maintained the repression of the Slave, and thus shouldn’t be allowed. This became the seed from which political correctness grew.

Incidentally, a group known as the Fabians adopted a strategy similar to that of the Frankfurt School, their goal being to “penetrate and permeate” (their phrase) institutions, transforming them from within to move them leftward. Originating in 1883 and receiving a huge grant from the estate of a deceased wealthy member in 1895, they founded what would become one of the most prestigious social sciences academies in the world, the London School of Economics, at which both David Rockefeller Sr. (1915 – 2017) and George Soros (1930 – ) were students. The LSE was not exclusively a haven for socialists, though. Leading libertarian theorist Friedrich A. Hayek (1899 – 1992) spent time there, prior to his better-known period at the University of Chicago. The guiding philosophy of Fabianism was: work with anyone (even conservatives!) who will work with you, compromising them, incorporating collectivism into their activities. The Fabians taught evolutionary rather than revolutionary change. While their most visible influence was in Great Britain via the Labour Party which they had virtually founded, they had “cells” in all the Ivy League universities and other institutions in America. Arguably they and their protégés, soon to include tax-exempt foundations such as Rockefeller and Ford, were responsible for the leftward tilt of American academia that provided the fertile soil in which the seeds of political correctness were planted, decades later.

Today’s academic humanities, including contemporary philosophy, are scenes of multiple voices clamoring for the status symbol (it has become that, after all) of Hegelian Slave. Candidates for mediator other than Marxian economic relations. The most obvious was race/ethnicity: the black descendent of slaves under the heel of continuing “white privilege,” the latter ensuring continuing “discrimination,” “underrepresentation” and “marginalization.” This gave rise, especially beginning in the 1970s, to policies, e.g., “affirmative action,” designed within the governmental and academic-bureaucratic complexes to further the interests of Slave over Master (ponder that one a moment).

Gender received a significant boost when philosopher-psychologist Carol Gilligan (1936 – ) contended that masculinity and femininity employed different moral categories: the male voice being logical and individualist while the female one was relational and emphasized caring. Academic feminists began using phrases like standpoint theory or standpoint epistemology — meaning the perspective from which a “marginalized” group experiences the world, authentic only if expressed through that group’s lived experience. Postmodernist feminists saw gender as a social construct apart from biological sex, creating many possibilities, as that which is constructed is optional, not essential (postmodernist feminism rejects essentialism), can be deconstructed, or constructed in a different way: one reason we are seeing a proliferation of sexual minorities and “genders” today. For there is also homosexuality, of course. And bisexuality. And transsexuality. And each of these in various combinations, including with racial/ethnic “marginalized” status—we could read about the “special perspective” of the “transgender person of color.” What one has is a lot of mediators of experience! Small wonder identity politics has taken over significant portions of the humanities (and small wonder there are academic “turf wars” over who has the better claim to being “marginalized”)!

These are all the step-progeny of left-wing Hegelians in America, operating mostly through prestigious universities. Their presumption of mediation is seen in their claim that we experience the world through standpoints (descendants of Kant’s categories) supplied by race, gender, sexual preference, etc. Capitalist-produced technology had created the conditions for many cultural changes left-wing Hegelians welcomed. Mass media provided means of reaching millions of people at once, given that by 1970 nearly every home had at least one television. They would use television (daytime dramas, commercial advertisements, sitcoms, “docu-dramas,” MTV when it appeared) as instruments of slow, cultural needle-moving until popular entertainment culture was saturated with “repressed” groups as well as sexual liberation — and utterly intolerant of Christian conservatives who were depicted as backward, uneducated, and borderline-violent.

One final item to factor in here is the replacement of a nation-focused consciousness with globalist cosmopolitanism for an increasingly borderless world, a process long underway within capitalist civilization and which increased exponentially following the collapse of the Soviet Union. To left-wing Hegelians, national identity is a sign of backwardness and regression, at worse, latent fascism again. Despite the strong capitalism of globalists, they and left-wing Hegelianism became allies of convenience, many of the latter surprisingly untroubled by the neoliberal economics used to underwrite the rise to global power of immensely wealthy global corporations. This explains the growing rift within the left that became most visible in last year’s clash between Hillary Clinton’s supporters who clearly identified with power and those of Bernie Sanders who did not, and wanted to reignite a discussion of class under capitalism as it exists in the twenty-first century.

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Class — privileged in classical Marxism but largely shunned by cultural Marxism — had shrunk into near-insignificance under cultural Marxism. The squeakier wheels definitely received the axel grease of social policy, and policies which redistributed wealth, jobs, political favors, etc., from Peter to Paul definitely had the support of Paul (and Paula!). The elimination of class from the Babel of Slave voices enabled the Democratic Party, once the institutional mouthpiece of the working class in America, to kick blue collar workers to the curb. They were too white, too male, too Christian, too provincial; there were too many “bitter clingers” and “deplorables” in their midst.

This, as everybody now understands (or should), propelled the ascendancy of Donald J. Trump, which was as much about the increasing cultural marginalization (the real thing, not the academic invention) of an entire segment of the American population, as well as its worsening economic standing. Despite his own billionaire status Trump could speak the language of the working class and appeal to a blue collar consciousness, especially in the face of rising borderless globalism which Trump could argue had exported their jobs while importing cheap immigrant labor and driving down wages.

The American working class did not fit into the narrative in which identity politics had found a home, especially in the Democratic Party — that of a country of changing demographics: more ethnically diverse, sexually liberated, less Christian, less tied to national identity, more tied to the kind of formal university education required by an increasingly technology-driven workplace, more cosmopolitan overall: the “blue” culture of the big coastal cities and suburbs in a nutshell.

“Red” culture, that of rural America — dismissed by the “blues” as “flyover country” — was latently tied by its history and viscerally, by its racial composition and religious tendencies to the Master mindset despite its obvious absence of any such status in the world outside left-wing Hegelian academic and media echo chambers. Disdained because of its self-identification with many Master values (individual rights, national identity, the authority of the U.S. Constitution, the value of work with one’s hands, etc.), the white working class was forgotten until Trumpism rose to remind us of it. Its consciousness had overtly resisted progressive change. It was increasingly a blight upon a changing world, that of former Slaves rising to power!

“Red” culture saw Donald Trump as its “great man”! It responded enthusiastically to The Donald’s attacks on political correctness and his openly belittling celebrity pseudo-pundits such as Megyn Kelly. It celebrated his overt masculinity, however disdained in the “metrosexual” big city culture. It cheered when, e.g., a Black Lives Matter leftist would show up at a Trump rally obviously simply to cause trouble and Trump would respond with a dismissive, “Get ‘im outta here!” It commented on the irony of supposed violence encouraged at Trump rallies while leftist protesters attacked Trump supporters trying to leave, or blocked roads and highways trying to prevent attendees from driving to Trump events. Trump’s popularity grew as he chewed up and spit out his rivals in the GOP debates, then did the same to a Hillary Clinton for whom the support of the Left had never been more than lukewarm — this despite obvious and blatant media bias in her favor!

“Red” culture was unfazed as the media attacks on Trump grew increasingly ugly, eventually including evidence-free allegations of sexual assault, amidst revelations he’d used a casual crudity for a woman’s sexual organ on the infamous Access Hollywood tape made years ago. “Blue” culture was caught completely off guard when Trump won an election their pundits had unanimously predicted he would lose by a landslide—won in the Electoral College, that is, because in one of the worst strategic moves in recent political history, Hillary had simply not campaigned in several “red” states (including states Obama had won four years before)!

“Red” culture remains unimpressed by insinuations which, if they could be proven, would amount to treason: that’s Trump’s campaign was aided by Russian hackers who sabotaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign, releasing thousands of compromising emails to WikiLeaks, continuing ongoing covert collusion with Russian intelligence operatives working under orders from Russian president Vladimir Putin. Hard evidence that any such things actually happened has yet to be made public, but the official narrative stays in place and is being pushed intensely by mainstream media stalwarts such as The Washington Post and the New York Times that have never been secret about their hatred for the Trump administration or their disdain for the white working class.

IV.

Welcome to the world that gave rise to the alt-right!

It is a world of high capital mobility, in which the prevailing economic ideology indeed sees the globe as a borderless marketplace. It is a world of massive, ongoing technological change, and of total media saturation. And it is a world of massive and growing divisions: between a shrinking minority of enthusiastically future-oriented “haves” and growing populations of increasingly angry “have nots.”

Among the sources of division are the various forms of identity politics that have swamped academia and popular culture, and which the alt-right sees as “inclusive” of everyone except white people many of whom are clearly “have nots.” In this world, some, as George Orwell (1903 – 1950) predicted, are clearly more equal than others. The Left, frustrated by Trump’s rise and its inability to control the public conversation, has reached the point where violence is acceptable (Richard Spencer has been physically sucker-punched on video). Its representatives in dominant media, including social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter, are doing everything they can to censor the alt-right, including making it difficult for its most visible leaders to function in public. As I finish this essay, Spencer was verbally confronted by — who else? — a female academic while working out in a gym, minding his own business. She demanded — and got — his membership in the gym revoked!

The alt-right rejects left-wing Hegelian premises and demands a cultural identity for whiteness. It rejects the cosmopolitan globalist marketplace in favor of economic nationalism; we are Americans, the alt-right says, not globalists. Culture and locality matter. If this be not politically correct, tough! If safeguarding white working class interests commits the economic sin of “protectionism,” so be it! Just as straight white Christian males collectively are not the villains of history, the world is not, and should not be transformed into, a borderless marketplace for mass-consumable, made-in-China junk!

The alt-right, in this case, is just right-wing Hegelianism resurgent: an angry revolt against the intellectually dominant left-wing Hegelianism. To the extent it also rejects the global cosmopolitanism of the “blues” and the mass consumption culture, it alone is in a position to expose and reject the alliance of convenience between left-wing Hegelianism and globalism found in “blue” culture.

What the alt-right rejects is the insidious idea that whiteness/maleness equates to Masterhood. Clearly, in most of the white working class and underclass, especially since the recent financial crisis, it does not. Read a boots-on-the-ground report and understand why working class whites voted so overwhelmingly for Trump. (Note: that author was not supporting Trump and probably finds the alt-right horrifying.)

The alt-right, we should note, rejects the “movement” conservatism of the mainstream GOP as dead — compromised, intimidated, out of ideas, having no idea what it wants to conserve. For decades now mainstream Republicans have been walking gingerly around issues like affirmative action, because they are scared of their shadows of being called racists — a fact hardly lost on the Left. The result is a movement that has spent itself, and has little left to say. Think again of last year’s GOP debates and how Trump owned them. Mainstream Republicans floundered helplessly in the face of his command of both mass media and social media. At the same time, one heard no new ideas at all from Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush or even Mitt Romney at one point. Mostly they just embarrassed themselves (and in the case of Bush, the original favorite of corporate insiders, wasted over $100 million in donor money).

Moreover, the bulk of GOP “satellite” institutions, the many “think tanks” (e.g., Heritage) and its major publications (e.g., National Review, Human Events, “conservative” syndicated columnists such as George Will, etc.), attacked Trump but communicated no forward-looking path for the country. This was not lost on the alt-right.

The mainstream GOP has furthered not conservatism but neoconservatism. The differences are, uh, huge! To put it perhaps bluntly, neoconservatism serves the Washington war machine, where the prevailing idea of “American exceptionalism” is “liberal democracy” forced on a reluctant world at gunpoint. Mainstream Republicans have also promoted the dominance of neoconservatism’s flipside which we mentioned earlier, neoliberalism. Neoliberal economics underwrites the global capitalist consensus, as its public intellectuals, the first of whom were Hayek and Milton Friedman (1912 – 2006), championed the unregulated market, rejected all forms of state-directed central planning (though they seemed okay with planning if corporations were doing it), lauded the privatization of public services (even prisons!), and recommended austerity to deal with public debt. Neoliberalism could be described by anyone who sought to do so as the triumph of the real Masters even if they’d never heard of Hegel: global-corporate CEOs able to buy political classes, tech billionaires often in bed with the deep state, hedge fund billionaires, corporate media pundits assuring us that all is well in the ship of state (or was until Trump got elected), Hollywood celebrities to keep us titillated and distracted, well-paid court economists and other court intellectuals to scold us against “populist” inclinations because, after all, There Is No Alternative!

Against all this, the alt-right raises its fist and says, Hell No, We Won’t Go! We demand our identity as white Americans, the right to preserve our own culture, and the right to live and associate with those of our choice!

So after all of this explication, why do I see the alt-right as an understandable and perhaps even justifiable response to our current situation, but otherwise at least partly wrongheaded, philosophically and culturally?

V.

First, there are educated people who will look back on the trajectory of modern philosophy I sketched above and proclaim it — may I echo Trump? — a “complete and total disaster.”

Outside of a few dropped names, I’ve said little about contemporary philosophy. That is because today’s professional philosophers, with rare exceptions, have little to say about any of this that is useful! (This guy is an example of someone who denounces alt-rightists such as Steve Bannon on his blog, the most widely read among professional philosophers, predictably and in accordance with cultural Marxism denouncing the movement as fascist, but that is all, and it is hardly of much help.)

Given the clear antecedents of the alt-right, why are contemporary thinkers so unhelpful? The story is a long one. It probably goes back to the ancient Greeks, especially Plato (427 – 347 B.C.) who philosophy students even today are improperly taught to put on a pedestal. I could elaborate by discussing Plato’s invention of a Perfect World of abstract universals, graspable only by an elite that has escaped his Cave; I could relate his development (in his Republic) of the Perfect State ruled by properly educated Philosopher-Kings; etc., ad nauseam.

You really want that 2,000 pages, don’t you?

No?

Okay. I can hear the sighs of relief from here. But in that case, I must take a different tack and wax autobiographical. That will enable me to offer some general insights based on five years living overseas, then to make suggestions where we might go from here.

I live in Santiago, Chile — a Latin American city of over 6 million people. I am married to a Chilean woman. There are alt-rightists for whom that’s a cardinal sin; I’ve married outside my tribe. Love, however, doesn’t respect national borders or cultural boundaries. That doesn’t render borders and boundaries meaningless. It means we have lassitude in picking and choosing when they are meaningful and limiting, and when they should be transcended.

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During my time here, I’ve become friends with numerous Chileans. I’ve learned a lot of Spanish (alas, I am not yet fluent). Educated Chileans are curious about us gringos — that word is not an insult here. Why did we leave our homeland, why did we choose Chile? etc. It’s made for many after-dinner conversations. Incidentally, there are specific immigration rules here, and penalties for violating them. This is true in Latin America generally. I have a permanencia definitiva noted on my cédula (Chilean ID); it states that I am an extranjero (foreigner). No one here is demonized as “racist” or “xenophobic” for thinking this country of roughly 18 million people should have an immigration policy and enforce it.

Chile is not perfect. By and large, wages are low here, much lower than in the U.S. The economy is neoliberal and could be described as corporatism-lite. There is a lot of sluggish bureaucracy, for which Chileans have a Spanish word: trámites. There is a lot of distrust within the culture outside one’s own family and personal network. Much of this is justified, for there is a lot of thievery, and people will take advantage of you. But the plusses surely outweigh the negatives. Chile is not at war with anyone, has no designs on its neighbors, and harbors no ambitions of global hegemony. It has a strong military for defensive purposes. Anyone invading Chile would immediately regret it!

I belong to an international church. Services are in English, but attended by people from around the world who happen to be here. I’ve met people from Peru, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Australia, Great Britain, South Africa, Indonesia, the Philippines, China, Armenia, Russia, and probably some I haven’t thought of.

I also attend occasional language-exchanges, as we call them. While these are primarily for gringos trying to learn or improve their Spanish, and Chileans interested in learning or trying to improve their English, others sometimes show up. I’ve met people fluent in German, Russian, Polish, and Hungarian in such venues.

Toastmasters International also has chapters here. As any readers who might be members know, this organization exists for those seeking to improve their public speaking skills. The bilingual chapter I’ve joined also has members from around the world.

My point? These are very much mixed-nationality and mixed-race/ethnicity groups. In the case of our church, we are Christians obviously, so we have that as our unifying theme. As for other organizations: we improve ourselves by interacting and comparing notes, solving common problems. Everybody gets along. There’s no friction between gringos from the U.S. and anyone else (that I know of) — even if respective governments aren’t always on the friendliest of terms. We learn from each other. Diversity can be a strength — if it’s embraced by persons working on the same problems (e.g., language learning, or public speaking), and not enforced as part of a broad, bureaucratic, and impersonal social policy, as if it were an end in itself.

A counterpoint: we are not really part of the mass society. That’s a critical difference — and a key to where Enlightenment and Hegelian thinking go wrong.

Reread the italicized sentence again. In the groups I described, we mix and mingle by choice. No one is forced to join. You must seek them out. They won’t come to you. And they’re not for everyone.

The masses invariably prefer their comfort zones, which means: what is habitual and familiar. They find unfamiliar differences (of color, language, dress, habit, etc.) and unpredictable change inherently disconcerting if not threatening. This may seem silly and backward in “blue” culture, but there are reasons for it — reasons deeply engrained in our nature and confirmed in many peoples’ histories. That multiculturalism can’t accommodate these is one of its major drawbacks.

When a less-advanced culture encounters strangers from a more-advanced one who come, shall we say, from across the ocean in massive ships, how are they to respond? With open arms, or with hesitation and suspicion? The strangers look different, dress differently, speak an unintelligible language, have strange abilities and habits. Are their gestures overtures of friendship? Or preludes to invasion and conquest?

Ask the descendants of the indigenous cultures of North, Central, and South America.

“Nativist” reactions to that which is different are to be expected, and may be justified. All the multiculturalism in the world from intellectuals who have spent their lives in an academic echo chamber, ironically having consorted exclusively with people just like them ideologically, won’t change this.

Worth noting, though, is that the multinational and multiethnic world we expats and other world travelers have established is also an aristocratic bubble of sorts. It is not for the masses. Multiculturalists, as left-wing Hegelian stepchildren, think it can be imposed on them willy-nilly. Their mistake might cost Anglo-European civilization dearly before it runs its course.

For the reverse of the above situation also holds: less-advanced peoples encroaching upon, or being allowed to encroach upon (or being forced upon), more-advanced ones, raises the same issues. The less-advanced people often cannot assimilate for the same reasons: in addition to their inability to speak the dominant language, they subscribe to a religious ideology (Islam) that forbids mass assimilation in any event. They do not respect the local laws and customs. They quickly become sources of disruption when they commit crimes, often born of resentment against an obviously more advanced way of life they neither understand nor share. They do become aware of their protected status inside the academic-bureaucratic echo chambers, however. This they can exploit.

Recent history should help clarify matters. Generalized open borders policies born of a multiculturalist mindset do not result in stable mass societies. If they fail for a society of around 67 million people (roughly the population of France), then assuredly they won’t work for one of over 325 million people (that of the U.S.). Such policies cannot work for those who do not consciously choose them, which is most people. The term the masses sounds derogatory. It need not be. It simply means the majority, those who are average, who go off experience and habit, whose lives are circumscribed by what affects them directly (family, work, church, filing a tax return once a year, etc.), who rarely think outside the boxes these supply, and who bring to the table the talents and skills they have, along with their individual hopes, dreams, fears, sweet spots, and pain points. They are often very good at what they’ve learned to do. Most can generally take care of themselves, so long as their lives are not disrupted by forces they neither understand nor can control. Most prefer the company of people like them, who think like them, who can relate to them, will trust them because they’ve known each other all their lives in some cases, and with whom they would be comfortable sharing a beer.

Interfere with these people, force them down paths not of their choosing, and barring the appearance of a Donald Trump you might not have a rebellion on your hands, but you will almost surely get slow but increasing dysfunction, as is the clearly the case with many working class white people who voted for Trump: the one population whose fortunes are shrinking along with their numbers, and whose tendencies toward chronic health problems, substance abuse, suicide, etc., are rising.

Other things being equal, I’d allow them (including those white people who find that the alt-right is making sense) to live as they see fit and be left alone. If they wish to separate, then let them separate. This is what the alt-right gets “right.”

But before they depart I’d ask them: instead of rejecting just left-wing Hegelianism, why not reject the entire Hegelian paradigm? The embrace of right-wing Hegelianism is what the alt-right gets “wrong.” The Master-Slave dichotomy may have seemed necessary, but never truly was. It was always an academic construct laid on top of a far more complex reality. Slave-consciousness may be overcome, in time, by self-reliance consciousness: a large frontage road alongside the Enlightenment superhighway of modernity, less traveled but fruitful for those who did. What is good and right about self-reliance consciousness is its absence of ethnic or gender specificity. White Europeans of various nationalities other than British chose it for decades when they came to the U.S. as immigrants with nothing but the shirts on their backs. They devoted themselves to the ways of their new home, learning English, and in many cases became successful business owners. Asians followed suit. They had a rougher ride, but also succeeded. Their children went on to earn doctorates in physics and engineering. “White privilege” did not stop them.

In American mass political culture, however, self-reliance was replaced by a sense of entitlement: government should take care of us. The Fabian-inspired New Deal has proven to have its dark side, this being chronic dependency on government (i.e., on taxpayers) and, in practice, has rendered ever more people vulnerable to being taken advantage of by predatory corporations (Big Insurance, Big Pharma). Obvious example: health care. One could write extensively on the dangers of too much comfort and convenience, especially for those who grow up immersed in it, absent any sense of the work that went into producing it. But that, too, is an essay for another day.

But just note in passing — and this is of crucial importance: before separating, one must consider that the price of separation and community self-determination in a world dominated by globalized power elites is self-reliance at a community level.

For example, speaking hypothetically, were a state or group of states to secede from the U.S. today, they would relinquish any right their people might have thought they had to Social Security, Medicare, and so on. Relinquishing these systems of dependency would be part of what they’d signed off on. What to put in place of those until they could transition back to self-reliance would become a major issue, and quickly!

Moreover, “populist” economics requires self-reliance because if “populists” are elected in a country, the economically powerful pull their investments and/or remove their operations, understandably fearful of the nationalization which happened in Chile when Salvador Allende was elected president in 1970. When a Hugo Chávez becomes president in a Venezuela, the corporate movers and shakers pull out. What happens: the economy tanks. Jobs vanish. Distribution systems collapse. Goods become scarce; price inflation soars. The “populists” are blamed for the debacle.

Without self-reliance at both an individual and community level, especially after decades of living in a relatively advancing civilization, it is a given that one’s standard of living will drop. Venezuela has learned this the hard way! In the real world, there are only two ways of maintaining a given standard of living. One is to depend on others to supply it. The other is to work to sustain it. One of these might be sustainable in the long run. The other is not. Readers who have followed me this far will be intelligent enough to discern which is which.

So separate — but recognize that just like all ideas and actions, there are requirements and there are consequences.

VI.

Christianity has hovered behind our conversation like a lit backdrop. I feel obligated to say more about its role both in the past and in the future, if we are to have one. For I do not believe the alt-right is sufficiently Christian, if it is Christian at all. It is questionable whether one can be immersed in both Hegelian premises and Christian ones.

Are Christian premises credible? Historian Rodney Stark (1934 – ), in a number of books the most significant of which is The Victory of Reason (2005), argues persuasively that Christianity deserves credit as the actual bulwark of Western civilization, having provided the working premises that gave rise to Western science, the idea of a free society based on rights of the individual, and ultimately capitalism as it arose prior to modernity and secularization. God the Rational Creator, created a rational world order, an order intelligible at least in part to beings capable of reason. He created us in His image, ensuring our capacity for reason and thus our ability to act productively and successfully in the created order to the extent we learn its principles. God’s Word, moreover, offers sound advice on every important human endeavor from family to personal finance and commerce.

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I, for one, believe we are remiss not to include Christianity’s powers of transformation! Christianity has crossed racial/ethnic barriers like no other faith! It is presently the fastest growing faith in countries like mainland China! It has indeed lost much of its hold on the West — replaced, in large part, not just by secularism but philosophies of hopelessness, despair, and evasion. Post-Christian culture has seen, alongside material prosperity, a general rise in misery, loneliness amidst the anonymous crowds, escapism, greed and criminality, licentiousness, and other behaviors destructive of both self and others. This is cheer, of course, but behind it one sees cheerful nihilists raising their alcoholic beverages of choice and saying, Eat, drink, and be merry, for in the long run we are all dead!

There is a strong sense in which Enlightenment thought completely missed the boat, with its grand non sequitur which derives atheistic materialism from what successes the sciences have enjoyed.

Consider, therefore: Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) recently presented a Christian critique of the alt-right. Instead of focusing on Master vs. Slave consciousness, or on ethnicity, he urged us all to think about the difference between the idea, once essential to whatever conservatives wanted to conserve, that rights originate with God, not government, to be recognized and protected by secular government — versus what happens when we extract God from the picture.

In this latter case, where rights originate is up for grabs. The problem with saying they somehow spring from human nature, or human reason, or some decision we make such as not to initiate force against one another, is the absence of a viable enforcement mechanism or sanctions commensurate to their violation. To explain ethical norms as an evolutionary adaptation in the sense that human groups that reject wanton lying, murder of their own, etc., ensuring that a group’s moral code has survival value, makes some sense, but in this case morality is of no more significance than any other set of practices particular to time and place, and there is no reason to ascribe moral properties or claims on one own acts by those outside one’s group. In the final analysis, in the materialist’s universe rights as moral claims reduce to power: one’s own or, by proxy, that of government. Otherwise they are toothless. If the materialist is honest about it.

“American exceptionalism,” Sen. Sasse thus continued, “was an understanding about the historical moment in which the American founding flipped on its head the relationship between rights and government.”

Sen. Sasse reached our conclusion. “The American founding is a claim that God gives us rights, not government, and government is our secular-shared project to secure those rights. That’s all American exceptionalism means. That’s what Washington used to mean.”

Before ending this essay I must therefore bang a drum I’ve often banged in the past, e.g., in Chapter Three of my book Four Cardinal Errors: Reasons for the Decline of the American Republic (2011). The gradual displacement of Christianity by materialism, beginning very slowly in the 1700s, proceeding apace in the 1800s, and largely accomplished in the dominant political-economic sphere by the mid-1900s, was an egregious and costly error!

Absent Christianity, there is no God to give anyone rights, which therefore become fluid, changing with the whimsy of whoever issues the most convincing and sometimes the loudest pronouncements. Legalpositivism — the idea that morality is what “society” collectively allows, and uses government to sanction in law — is the result. What the government gives, the government can take away!

Rights are thus expendable if they inconvenience political agendas. It is not hyperbole but a fact of history that this allows genocide: the reason events such as the Nazi Holocaust, Stalin’s purges, and Mao’s “cultural revolution” were possible is that entire groups and populations could be eliminated from the moral community by government fiat! Some argue that we have done this with the unborn: the abortion holocaust, papered over with euphemisms like “women’s reproductive rights” or the “right to choose”!

On a much less dramatic scale, people’s vigilance in the face of expansionist government slips when the latter offers them ready and dependency-creating conveniences; again, health care is the obvious example. Those you are dependent on can control you, and in principle, dictate terms of life to you!

Absent Christianity, the idea that rights are inalienable simply makes no sense. Expansionist government thus begins to insinuate itself into everything, often under the pretense of protecting us from ourselves but often simply because it can, sometimes with life-or-death consequences, while protecting corporations that feed a burgeoning political-administrative class with easy money in a worsening spiral of mutual protection.

For corporations, too, fall into this downward spiral. It has become easy to forget that the only truly effective checks on greed are moral in nature, and will be effective only if the greedy are convinced they answer to a Being infinitely more powerful than they are (and even then, incompletely). Mere political checks on corporate power can never work when corporations have the money to buy political classes. When civic morality collapses into I’ll-scratch-your-back-if-you’ll-scratch-mine utilitarianism, those at the helm of corporations see accumulation as natural and even expected.

Is this not neoliberalism in a nutshell? I’ve heard neoliberalism described as “capitalism with the gloves off” as it is blamed for the worsening wealth gap. An important difference between neoliberalism and its classical liberal ancestor, though, is that its ancestor did not arise within and had no necessary connection to secular materialism. The version of classical liberalism developed most famously by Frederic Bastiat (1801 – 1850) in his slim classic The Law (1849), offered a Christian economics. Classical liberalism is not inherently materialist. The implicit joining of the two has been a catastrophe for the developed world. Power centered in global corporations answering only to each other has become the final economic reality, money their primary instrument. The long-term result, having come to fullest fruition since the financial crisis of 2008, is the wealth gap: the accumulation, in the hands of a group small enough to fit into a university auditorium with room to spare, of more wealth than is possessed by the entire bottom half of the world’s population!

Corporations fall for the lure of power no less than a political class, and are many times better at it! The idea that “the free market” will check their activities, promoted by Libertarians, is surely as naïve as anything any Marxist ever said. They become not merely “too big to fail” but beyond the control of abstract “economic logic” which is just the increasingly puny decisions, in aggregate, of the increasingly moneyless and powerless. Money, after all, is power in materialist global civilization, and if you don’t have it, you’re impotent. Moneylenders discovered this at the regional level in the late 1700s. Their descendants have been expanding on the basic idea ever since. Leftists are right to believe this is an important factor behind the present surge of “populism” and other manifestations of unrest all over the world — rebellions against an insular elite, loyal only to money, whose idea of “work” is moving investments around all day and tallying the profits, while undermining and destroying the autonomy of indigenous populations.

Regrettably, however, the Left never looks past political economy to metaphysics. In fairness, with increasingly rare exceptions, neither does the Right. Metaphysics is not a form of mysticism but a branch of systematic philosophy. It once considered and evaluated our beliefs about the nature of reality, such as whether God as Creator and the Author of our being exists, applied to the question of whether Christianity provides the most viable set of guidelines for the good life. Metaphysics is the subject to which we should turn when identifying and evaluating worldviews such as Christianity and materialism. Applied to science, technology, political economy, and ideas such as universal progress, it asks whether God as Creator designed a world that is intelligible to the human mind to function in specific ways, to respond to human actions in specific ways, so that certain arrangements and practices carried out consistently bring general benefit while others lead to harm and eventual disaster on a civilization-wide or global scale. (Somewhere, lurking behind this final thought, is the issue of man-made climate change.)

Conclusion.

The alt-right came about through a handful of alienated straight white male intellectuals who deep resent their exclusion from the Hegelian identity-political universe, as well as the destruction of a culture with which they identified by the relentless forces of globalism (“globalization”). But they do not see the core problem, which has to do with the Hegelian paradigm and the worldview of modernity: secularist materialism.

Again, theirs is a reasonable reaction to the present-day status quo. It gets the failures of “movement” conservatism right. But it doesn’t go deeply enough. Reviving right-wing Hegelianism will be no more helpful than anything the Left has produced. The problem is not just fear of being called racist, or timidity in the face of political correctness. Why conserve a nation that is falling ever deeper into police-statism, which some may think necessary if only to control an increasingly violent Left? Why conserve a political system that cannot offer better than consummate insiders like Hillary Clinton, and within which a crass businessman and former reality-TV star can wipe up the floor with his opponents? Why conserve a culture that serves up narcissistic celebrities and uses technology to take selfies (once, long ago, we used technology heroically to send men to the moon and return them safely)? Why, finally, conserve either the neoconservative war machine, or neoliberal globalism simply because it enables an ever-shrinking economic elite to get richer?

Is there any reason for choosing a Hegelianism of the Right over a Hegelianism of the Left, or of choosing a materialism of the Right over a materialism of the Left?

My answer is a firm and resounding No.

Whether the recovery of a Christian political economy, perhaps based on the ideals of someone such as Bastiat, is possible in our lifetimes remains to be seen. It faces huge obstacles in the power systems the enemies of freedom, Christianity, and community autonomy have built up over decades. It has the added problem of the absence of self-reliance in many if not most of us who grew up in advanced civilizations’ bubbles of comfort, convenience, and sense of entitlement, making separation efforts extremely challenging. I do not think serious solutions are going to come from the so-called Trump revolution. Even if Trump were not more a product of this late-Hegelian, postmodern malaise than a solution to it, able to use its media instruments adeptly, he remains one person surrounded by a “swamp” of hostile forces, and so far has had to throw many of his campaign pledges into reverse and go full neocon to survive (I do not know how else to put it). That may not be enough. As of this writing, an investigation of the so-called Russian connection still hangs over his head, and that of his administration. Even in the absence of decisive proof that members of the Trump campaign knowingly colluded with Russian agents to win the 2016 election, in the incautious firing of former FBI chief James Comey may be all that Trump’s enemies need to hang him, figuratively speaking, for having “obstructed justice.”

I know of people who are eschewing the bread and circuses of voting, participating in “democracy,” etc. They are indeed engaging in psychological separation or, in partnerships with others, forming “colonies” that insulate themselves, as much as possible, from the money-and-power system. One or two are here in Chile. Others exist elsewhere. The alt-right has this same option. Prospects are open. While each may choose their own philosophy, I believe those who ultimately enjoy sustainable success will have discovered the benefits of merging a Christian worldview with the recovery of self-reliance consciousness, building local economies accordingly. Even then, they will have their work cut out for them!

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Steven Yates is a writer with a Ph.D. in philosophy. He is the author of the books Civil Wrongs: What Went Wrong With Affirmative Action (1994), Four Cardinal Errors: Reasons for the Decline of the American Republic (2011), approximately two dozen articles and reviews in academic journals and anthologies, and over a hundred articles of online commentary, especially on NewsWithViews.com. Dr. Yates taught philosophy at several colleges and universities in the Southeast. In 2012 he moved from South Carolina to Santiago, Chile, where he has taught periodically at two universities there, as well as having involved himself in teaching English and operating a small editing business, Final Draft Editing Service. He is married to a Chilean, and at present writes almost full time.

He blogs about philosophy and the foibles of academia at Lost Generation Philosopher.

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  1. Pele says:

    Well written!Like Durant in short form.But you state that people like us have options-I strongly disagree.The globalists won’t/wouldn’t allow it,anywhere.I could give you 2o examples but maybe
    you should just ask your new neighbors about Salvadore Allende. No one gets off their reservation.

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  2. utu says:

    I wasn’t persuaded by the author because he neglected to analyze the importance of pre-Socratic philosophers. I am sure he could easily squeeze one or two more chapters in.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    I wasn’t persuaded by the author because he neglected to analyze the importance of pre-Socratic philosophers. I am sure he could easily squeeze one or two more chapters in.
     
    Ezackly. There's only "so many" times one can say "late Hegelian, postmodern malaise" before entropy reverses and the stars fall from the sky.
  3. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!

    Totally agree.

    The rest of the piece is pure drivel, unfortunately. There’s no such thing as ‘cultural marxism’. If the word ‘marxism’ means anything, it’s two things: materialism and class struggle. Liberal identity politics is precisely an anti-maxist ploy, designed to split the working class into small warring clans.

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    • Replies: @Joe Franklin

    Liberal identity politics is precisely an anti-maxist ploy, designed to split the working class into small warring clans.
     
    The left has substituted the Marxist proletarian working class with the anti-Nazi victim class.

    Identity politics is all about gaining federal entitlements for victim class people, and victim class people are the privileged-by-law elite, not the working class or the bourgeoisie class.

    Victim class people self identify by proclaiming themselves to be oppressed by white supremacist or white straight Christian males or Nazi.

    Leftist being all democrats and all neocons are the privileged-by-law elite in the US and Israel.
    , @Logan
    Quite agree that cultural Marxism is pretty much an oxymoron.

    The ideology it describes has just about nothing to do with anything Marx taught. He was all about materialism, control of the means of production and destruction of social classes. He didn't believe ethnicity should matter at all. Hence, his "Workers of the World, Unite!" slogan.

    There is a parallel, however, between real and cultural Marxism. It's the notion that an evil dominant force is oppressing everybody else, who should unite to destroy them. For Marx, it was the bourgeoisie, for the SJWs it's straight white males.

    Once the evil dominators are destroyed, utopia will result.

    Calling this cultural Marxism only makes sense on a line of descent basis. Real Marxism has pretty much died. Nobody really wants to take over and run the means of production. Just about everybody who once was an actual Marxist has become a cultural Marxist.
  4. A very long story without, in my opinion, clear statements.

    I wonder if the writer ever drove from Miami to the Keys, one then on the left sees the multitude of banks, one for every S American country, the best visual proof on how the USA controls S American countries, the beloved Monroe Doctrine.
    John Gerassi, ‘The Great Fear in Latin America’, 1963, 1969, London.
    Who knows how Barrick Gold behaves in Argentina right now is of the opinion that little has changed in S America since 1963.

    I also wonder if the writer ever read
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    how Roosevelt began the era of USA wars, slowly preparing the USA people for war.
    From 1933 until 1945 Roosevelt was the USA dictator.

    Deep State has one very positive aspect, it demonstrates how strong anti democratic forces are in the USA.

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    Well said, Jilles.

    My big trouble with this, and where I was completely to losing concentration, was the nonsensical statement that the Fabian Society was the origin of Britain's Labour movement.

    Talk about cart before horse!
  5. Wow! 10,400 words on the disaster that is Cultural Marxism and never used the word “Jewish” once. Henry ford warned the world against “The International Jew”. What he recognised nearly a century ago remains true today. The Protocols live and white European culture having been targeted for destruction is nearly gone.

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  6. Randal says:

    Always going to be suspicions of straw-mannery with any piece that attempts to make assertions about “the alt right” as though it is some kind of coherent mass movement. Any assertion that is true is likely to apply only to a tiny group of loudmouths.

    Be this as it may, according to the view I shall develop, is that what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea. Surely its goodness or rightness is not self-evident. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!

    This is rather futile – the resort to identity politics by “straight white males” is not usually a choice, but rather a necessity in response to the triumph of “minority” identity politics from feminism to blackism. If you can’t beat them (and western civilisation has been defeated catastrophically and totally by identity politics over the past century), then you have to join them.

    Yates’ approach here seems to be a variety of what lefties like to call “blaming the victim”. If he disapproves of identity politics then the correct targets of his ire are feminists, blackists, “antiracists”, anti-antisemite witchfinders, homosexualists etc. Of course, those are dangerous targets for anyone needing any level of respectability.

    Whether the recovery of a Christian political economy, perhaps based on the ideals of someone such as Bastiat, is possible in our lifetimes remains to be seen. It faces huge obstacles in the power systems the enemies of freedom, Christianity, and community autonomy have built up over decades.

    Yates might not have noticed, but the biggest obstacle to any revival of real Christianity in the countries of the modern US sphere is the internal corruption of the mainstream Christian churches themselves, which are a major part of the problem as far as worship of the dogmas of identity politics and the political promotion of the cancer of mass immigration are concerned.

    Heal the physician first.

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    Randal, thanks. You're spot on that there's no "coherent mass movement" of so-called alt-rightists. Widely shared grievances and disgruntlement are not an affirmative program to gain power. " . . . [T]he resort to identity politics . . . is not usually a choice . . .". Yep, but you can scratch the "usually". I'd venture that most of us here in the States would really like to be Democrats and Republicans, but the Democrats are consumed by rent-extracting fringes, the Republicans by corporate globalists. Few other places to go. The cul-de-sac of Libertarianism? Political quietism?

    I disagree with much on these pages, but I return again and again, as do others I think, because political reality has mugged us. (I'll add that it can be painful to admit that one has had his arse whooped by a strongly politicized world where the hostiles are in charge. Most of us deeply believe in individual moral agency, even when the evidence tends against it.)

    I do think Steve Yates deserves some credit, though, for trying a big-picture view of things. And, as a smalltime writer myself, I understand the challenges of publication very well, which he mentions on his Patreon donation page.

  7. vinteuil says:

    I can’t quite believe that I read the whole thing – but I did.

    I entirely agree that the Right Hegelian/Left Hegelian Master/Slave dichotomy was hopelessly simplistic.

    But I fear that Dr. Yates’ preferred solution – some sort of Christian revival – just ain’t in the cards.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    O ye of little faith.

    He's Risen before, what makes you so sure He can't again?

    The malady is vanity. Do you doubt the cure for that?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
  8. Only skimmed through it…what an idiotic piece (also far too long and verbose). Just the usual reactionary Christian nonsense that has absolutely no relevance to today’s problems. Personally I find some of what I’ve seen online of the US alt-right stupid and even somewhat repellent. But Mr Yates’ “solution” – everybody just ought to believe in Christianity (as if that were possible today), then “racism” and nationalism will disappear and we’ll all be brothers in Christ – nah.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Can only wonder what you find "stupid" and "repellent" about the alt-right. Perhaps its horror at how the German government polices Facebook posts for "hateful" content?
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Just the usual reactionary Christian nonsense that has absolutely no relevance to today’s problems. Personally I find some of what I’ve seen online of the US alt-right stupid and even somewhat repellent.
     
    If I may observe so, perhaps the "alt-right" literature is more "immature" than (just) stupid. IMO, the literature lacks a philosophical core. "Alt-right" itself is an immature label -- coined too glibly.
  9. JackOH says:
    @Randal
    Always going to be suspicions of straw-mannery with any piece that attempts to make assertions about "the alt right" as though it is some kind of coherent mass movement. Any assertion that is true is likely to apply only to a tiny group of loudmouths.

    Be this as it may, according to the view I shall develop, is that what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea. Surely its goodness or rightness is not self-evident. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!
     
    This is rather futile - the resort to identity politics by "straight white males" is not usually a choice, but rather a necessity in response to the triumph of "minority" identity politics from feminism to blackism. If you can't beat them (and western civilisation has been defeated catastrophically and totally by identity politics over the past century), then you have to join them.

    Yates' approach here seems to be a variety of what lefties like to call "blaming the victim". If he disapproves of identity politics then the correct targets of his ire are feminists, blackists, "antiracists", anti-antisemite witchfinders, homosexualists etc. Of course, those are dangerous targets for anyone needing any level of respectability.

    Whether the recovery of a Christian political economy, perhaps based on the ideals of someone such as Bastiat, is possible in our lifetimes remains to be seen. It faces huge obstacles in the power systems the enemies of freedom, Christianity, and community autonomy have built up over decades.
     
    Yates might not have noticed, but the biggest obstacle to any revival of real Christianity in the countries of the modern US sphere is the internal corruption of the mainstream Christian churches themselves, which are a major part of the problem as far as worship of the dogmas of identity politics and the political promotion of the cancer of mass immigration are concerned.

    Heal the physician first.

    Randal, thanks. You’re spot on that there’s no “coherent mass movement” of so-called alt-rightists. Widely shared grievances and disgruntlement are not an affirmative program to gain power. ” . . . [T]he resort to identity politics . . . is not usually a choice . . .”. Yep, but you can scratch the “usually”. I’d venture that most of us here in the States would really like to be Democrats and Republicans, but the Democrats are consumed by rent-extracting fringes, the Republicans by corporate globalists. Few other places to go. The cul-de-sac of Libertarianism? Political quietism?

    I disagree with much on these pages, but I return again and again, as do others I think, because political reality has mugged us. (I’ll add that it can be painful to admit that one has had his arse whooped by a strongly politicized world where the hostiles are in charge. Most of us deeply believe in individual moral agency, even when the evidence tends against it.)

    I do think Steve Yates deserves some credit, though, for trying a big-picture view of things. And, as a smalltime writer myself, I understand the challenges of publication very well, which he mentions on his Patreon donation page.

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  10. “[W]hat are we to say when a tenured professor at a major university speaks of wanting “white genocide” for Christmas and then insists he was only being satirical?”

    Well, here is what I think we can confidently say: our “thinkers” in their high-placed sinecures of academe now, with little fear of push-back, openly signal their desire for a 21st century wave of Marxist-theorized assaults on a certain (class and/or race) of people they would like to get ride of. After 8 years of Obama-rule, i.e., Robert Mugabe-Lite, the left has now confidently put the throttle down on its murderous design for white European culture. Trump for the left, is the last, desperate gasp of the lumpen proletariat.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

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  11. That’s a lot of verbiage to end up saying can’t we all just get along, like me and my Chilean wife in this country where I’ll always be a foreigner and second-class citizen going to my Sunday morning-book club with all the other foreigners?

    Not sustainable and, predictably, no mention of children.

    And residing in Chile, Mr. Yates is about as far removed from two troubling demographics as one can be: Africans and Muslims. Not that Chile doesn’t have its own demographic trough with an average national IQ well below the Anglo mean; all the petty thievery and low-trust interactions may start to wear on the author eventually.

    People don’t just want to live, they want to prosper, and they want their children to succeed and prosper and have children in their turn. Libertarians continue back-flipping around uncomfortable questions.

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    Good points. His Chilean wife maybe of European descent so there would be no problems with Yates coming back to the USA with his wife. A college friend of my mine had a German American father and a Spanish Chilean mother. They met in Chile, married and came to the USA. No problems with assimilating or IQ deficiencies. His take on Christianity is bizarre. He attends an
    "international church" with all colors. That's a problem. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This article was only to justify marrying his wife. But if she is like my friend's mother, they would have no problems in the USA. A problem is someone like the actor Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman.
    , @lavoisier
    Libertarians are nothing more than religious fundamentalists substituting the "free market" for God.

    Hence their inability to think rationally about any issue that challenges their dogmatic faith in the ultimate wisdom of the "free market." It is a simplistic dogma that renders their adherents, like any faith based worldview, incapble of thinking clearly about any number of issues.

    And predictably, their support for the ruling orthodoxy destroying Western Civilization-- open borders.

    Libertarians are incapable of defending Western Civilization. They want to preserve markets, not people and their cultures.

  12. @German_reader
    Only skimmed through it...what an idiotic piece (also far too long and verbose). Just the usual reactionary Christian nonsense that has absolutely no relevance to today's problems. Personally I find some of what I've seen online of the US alt-right stupid and even somewhat repellent. But Mr Yates' "solution" - everybody just ought to believe in Christianity (as if that were possible today), then "racism" and nationalism will disappear and we'll all be brothers in Christ - nah.

    Can only wonder what you find “stupid” and “repellent” about the alt-right. Perhaps its horror at how the German government polices Facebook posts for “hateful” content?

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  13. Agent76 says:

    May 5, 2017 Hans-Hermann Hoppe: A World Without Theft

    Dr. Hoppe’s book ‘The Economics and Ethics of Private Property’ (mises.org/EEPP) is among the most important modern contributions to libertarian thought. Hoppe, like Rothbard, connects laissez-faire economics to normative libertarian theory with laserlike precision and inexorable logic.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Outstanding, yes. If more libertarians were like Rothbard and Hoppe, they might provide a meaningful opposition movement. Instead they just offer a different brand of open borders lunacy and national suicide.
  14. Well done.

    Another angle you may have missed:

    The alt- in alt-Right is merely a Right which plays tit-for-tat with the Left rather than always trust, including trusting the Left’s framing of the issues.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat

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  15. Surely its goodness or rightness is not self-evident. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!

    White people are the only ones so far who have foresworn identity politics, and I don’t see that we’ve gained anything from it at all. There is nothing wrong with wanting your own people to remain the dominant cultural, political and demographic majority in the country your ancestors founded. It is long past time to admit that all the social experimentation that has taken place over the last half century has led us to the brink of civilizational collapse and reclaim our racial identity.

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  16. @vinteuil
    I can't quite believe that I read the whole thing - but I did.

    I entirely agree that the Right Hegelian/Left Hegelian Master/Slave dichotomy was hopelessly simplistic.

    But I fear that Dr. Yates' preferred solution - some sort of Christian revival - just ain't in the cards.

    O ye of little faith.

    He’s Risen before, what makes you so sure He can’t again?

    The malady is vanity. Do you doubt the cure for that?

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  17. @Agent76
    May 5, 2017 Hans-Hermann Hoppe: A World Without Theft

    Dr. Hoppe's book 'The Economics and Ethics of Private Property' (mises.org/EEPP) is among the most important modern contributions to libertarian thought. Hoppe, like Rothbard, connects laissez-faire economics to normative libertarian theory with laserlike precision and inexorable logic.

    https://youtu.be/D0DoeyI8YCI

    Outstanding, yes. If more libertarians were like Rothbard and Hoppe, they might provide a meaningful opposition movement. Instead they just offer a different brand of open borders lunacy and national suicide.

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    A picture is said to be worth a thousand words but this video is worth so much more.

    Mar 20, 2017 US Debt of $20 Trillion Visualized in Stacks of Physical Cash

    Showing stacks of physical cash in following sequence: $100, $10,000, $1 Million, $2 Billion, $1 Trillion, $20 Trillion. The faith and value of the US Dollar rests on the Government's ability to repay its debt. "The money in the video has already been spent"

    https://youtu.be/XqUwr-Nkq9g
  18. @utu
    I wasn't persuaded by the author because he neglected to analyze the importance of pre-Socratic philosophers. I am sure he could easily squeeze one or two more chapters in.

    I wasn’t persuaded by the author because he neglected to analyze the importance of pre-Socratic philosophers. I am sure he could easily squeeze one or two more chapters in.

    Ezackly. There’s only “so many” times one can say “late Hegelian, postmodern malaise” before entropy reverses and the stars fall from the sky.

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  19. Mark Presco says: • Website

    The author fails to acknowledge a highly correlated fact. Every country in Latin America that is minority white is a third world country because there are not enough white men to provide jobs for everyone.

    Latin Americans are heading north by the tens of millions because this is where the white men are, the wealth creators and job creators. When the USA becomes minority white, there won’t be enough of us to provide jobs for them here either.

    Only white men can create white cultures, and only white men can maintain them. It is called Western Civilization.

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  20. @German_reader
    Only skimmed through it...what an idiotic piece (also far too long and verbose). Just the usual reactionary Christian nonsense that has absolutely no relevance to today's problems. Personally I find some of what I've seen online of the US alt-right stupid and even somewhat repellent. But Mr Yates' "solution" - everybody just ought to believe in Christianity (as if that were possible today), then "racism" and nationalism will disappear and we'll all be brothers in Christ - nah.

    Just the usual reactionary Christian nonsense that has absolutely no relevance to today’s problems. Personally I find some of what I’ve seen online of the US alt-right stupid and even somewhat repellent.

    If I may observe so, perhaps the “alt-right” literature is more “immature” than (just) stupid. IMO, the literature lacks a philosophical core. “Alt-right” itself is an immature label — coined too glibly.

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  21. This is a question I think quite a lot about.

    Three things wrong with the Alt Right:

    1)the Alt Rights obssession with IQ test score psychometrics

    2)The faction of the Alt Right that worships Hitler….Pinochet….Franco….which logically leads to a worship of Henry Kissinger a Jew…just go check out the comments of Alt Right commenter Yehuda Finklestien over at Radix Journal…

    3)And I completely agree with Alan Benoist that the Alt Right without a savage unrelenting critique of Neoliberal Economic Policy is a Political Moment with an early expiration date..

    Another criticism:Why isn’t isn’t open-guest posting allowed on Radix Journal allowed?…This is very serious PC CENSORSHIP….and I blame the little Iranian that Richard Spencer hangs out with for this….and his gay boy Radix Journal Comment Control Moderator…

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  22. And where did Hitler worship get us?

    Blonde hair blue eyed Waffen SS soldiers….I assume baptized Christian….being wasted by beautiful blonde haired Conservative Orthodox Christian Women Russian Snipers. This is what you will always get when you fall for the lies of the worshippers of Franco.

    Hitler and Franco….enablers of the Mohammadan Gang Rape Army….Hitler’s Waffen SS-Werhrmacht gang rape Army…

    Short tiny Andrew Anglin doesn’t realize how much he has in common with the Jewish Antifas on a fundamental Level…..

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    • Replies: @Pandos
    Where to begin? Where to begin with such a lack of knowledge.
  23. History offers up important lessons for the Alt Right…

    There is a historic precedent for the Alt Right in US History:look no further than the late 19th-early 2oth Century US Labor Movement…it was racially xenophobic….isolationist…and economically progressive….The late 19th-early 2oth century Labor Movement gave us such wonderfull things such as The Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act and the Sihk Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act….not bad!!!

    And let’s honest…The Alt Right kiddie brigade that worships Hitler…Franco…Pinochet….also swims in the sewage of JFK and Ronnie Reagan worship…two scoundrels who unleashed race-replacement immigration policy on The Historic Native Born White American Working Class..

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  24. Pandos says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    And where did Hitler worship get us?


    Blonde hair blue eyed Waffen SS soldiers....I assume baptized Christian....being wasted by beautiful blonde haired Conservative Orthodox Christian Women Russian Snipers. This is what you will always get when you fall for the lies of the worshippers of Franco.


    Hitler and Franco....enablers of the Mohammadan Gang Rape Army....Hitler's Waffen SS-Werhrmacht gang rape Army...


    Short tiny Andrew Anglin doesn't realize how much he has in common with the Jewish Antifas on a fundamental Level.....

    Where to begin? Where to begin with such a lack of knowledge.

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  25. joe webb says:

    “I married a Chilean woman” ? This signifies the obfuscation of the article. What is a Chilean woman? I guess a half breed or full injun.

    Love conquers all is just fine for personal life, but love does not conquer Reason.

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb

    I saw a competent psychologist say that the full reasoning capacity of the mind is not reached until about 24. Thus the emotional brain, especially the sexy part, is predominant and thus assures the survival of humans but not whites.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb
     
    Shit. And I do mean Shit! You self-obsessed little dumbass prick. Every single one of those "83 IQ" Chileans is not so fucking STUPID and IGNORANT as to sign every damn post with the same name prominently displayed right up-front. That's o'er-weening ego, you dimwit.

    You epitomize the utter dumbassery of the worst of "alt-right". "alt.dumbfuck" is more properly descriptive.

    [Sorry, Ron Unz. Sometimes a man's gotta say what a man's gotta say.]
  26. joe webb says:

    The author here confirms the Death of Philosophy and the silliness of trotting along the same old worn path.

    Sociobiology sped past philosophy years ago and any philosopher these days is traveling by horse and buggy.

    Joe Webb

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  27. @joe webb
    "I married a Chilean woman" ? This signifies the obfuscation of the article. What is a Chilean woman? I guess a half breed or full injun.

    Love conquers all is just fine for personal life, but love does not conquer Reason.

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb

    I saw a competent psychologist say that the full reasoning capacity of the mind is not reached until about 24. Thus the emotional brain, especially the sexy part, is predominant and thus assures the survival of humans but not whites.

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb

    Shit. And I do mean Shit! You self-obsessed little dumbass prick. Every single one of those “83 IQ” Chileans is not so fucking STUPID and IGNORANT as to sign every damn post with the same name prominently displayed right up-front. That’s o’er-weening ego, you dimwit.

    You epitomize the utter dumbassery of the worst of “alt-right”. “alt.dumbfuck” is more properly descriptive.

    [Sorry, Ron Unz. Sometimes a man's gotta say what a man's gotta say.]

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You're just ashamed because you're of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.
    , @joe webb
    John
    Smith, I have never called anyone on this list insane, but You are insane. Joe Webb
  28. Agent76 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Outstanding, yes. If more libertarians were like Rothbard and Hoppe, they might provide a meaningful opposition movement. Instead they just offer a different brand of open borders lunacy and national suicide.

    A picture is said to be worth a thousand words but this video is worth so much more.

    Mar 20, 2017 US Debt of $20 Trillion Visualized in Stacks of Physical Cash

    Showing stacks of physical cash in following sequence: $100, $10,000, $1 Million, $2 Billion, $1 Trillion, $20 Trillion. The faith and value of the US Dollar rests on the Government’s ability to repay its debt. “The money in the video has already been spent”

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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb
     
    Shit. And I do mean Shit! You self-obsessed little dumbass prick. Every single one of those "83 IQ" Chileans is not so fucking STUPID and IGNORANT as to sign every damn post with the same name prominently displayed right up-front. That's o'er-weening ego, you dimwit.

    You epitomize the utter dumbassery of the worst of "alt-right". "alt.dumbfuck" is more properly descriptive.

    [Sorry, Ron Unz. Sometimes a man's gotta say what a man's gotta say.]

    You’re just ashamed because you’re of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    You’re just ashamed because you’re of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.
     
    ROTFLMMFAO.

    You little girl, run back to Mommy.
  30. I didn’t read the whole thing (needless to say), but IMO the alt-right’s identity politics is essentially just a response to the left’s identity politics. The alt-right is basically saying to the left, “OK, if that’s how you want to play it, then whites are just as entitled to celebrate their heritage as NAMs are entitled to celebrate theirs. And if not, why not?”

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  31. @The Anti-Gnostic
    That's a lot of verbiage to end up saying can't we all just get along, like me and my Chilean wife in this country where I'll always be a foreigner and second-class citizen going to my Sunday morning-book club with all the other foreigners?

    Not sustainable and, predictably, no mention of children.

    And residing in Chile, Mr. Yates is about as far removed from two troubling demographics as one can be: Africans and Muslims. Not that Chile doesn't have its own demographic trough with an average national IQ well below the Anglo mean; all the petty thievery and low-trust interactions may start to wear on the author eventually.

    People don't just want to live, they want to prosper, and they want their children to succeed and prosper and have children in their turn. Libertarians continue back-flipping around uncomfortable questions.

    Good points. His Chilean wife maybe of European descent so there would be no problems with Yates coming back to the USA with his wife. A college friend of my mine had a German American father and a Spanish Chilean mother. They met in Chile, married and came to the USA. No problems with assimilating or IQ deficiencies. His take on Christianity is bizarre. He attends an
    “international church” with all colors. That’s a problem. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. This article was only to justify marrying his wife. But if she is like my friend’s mother, they would have no problems in the USA. A problem is someone like the actor Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    People like you are part of the problem by accepting non-Anglo whites who have fundamentally build the original system of the United States and now are seeking to become free riders. Until you understand that white genocide will happen through admixture of different types of supposed "whites" then you are equally as bad at any black fag. Are you related to Irish or Italians?
    , @Skeptikal
    Speaking of Europeans in Chile:


    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/nazi-spitzel-in-chile-fotostrecke-149271.html
    , @Skeptikal
    Speaking of Europeans in Chile:


    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/nazi-spitzel-in-chile-fotostrecke-149271.html
  32. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    Good points. His Chilean wife maybe of European descent so there would be no problems with Yates coming back to the USA with his wife. A college friend of my mine had a German American father and a Spanish Chilean mother. They met in Chile, married and came to the USA. No problems with assimilating or IQ deficiencies. His take on Christianity is bizarre. He attends an
    "international church" with all colors. That's a problem. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This article was only to justify marrying his wife. But if she is like my friend's mother, they would have no problems in the USA. A problem is someone like the actor Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman.

    People like you are part of the problem by accepting non-Anglo whites who have fundamentally build the original system of the United States and now are seeking to become free riders. Until you understand that white genocide will happen through admixture of different types of supposed “whites” then you are equally as bad at any black fag. Are you related to Irish or Italians?

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  33. @Anonymous
    You're just ashamed because you're of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.

    You’re just ashamed because you’re of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.

    ROTFLMMFAO.

    You little girl, run back to Mommy.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman - Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.
  34. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Be this as it may, according to the view I shall develop, is that what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea. Surely its goodness or rightness is not self-evident. Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!

    Perhaps you’re getting entangled in your own rearranging of words. You don’t know what alt-Right is and the people who are waking up are not preparing for “safety”.

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  35. KenH says:

    Most Christians are accepting of non-white identity politics but have a visceral reaction when whites in the form of the alt-right join the game. I don’t think the author of this article is hostile to the alt-right, but neither does he understand that ethno-nationalism is an indomitable force that is here to stay and a more powerful force than any of the major religions (including communism). I think the author underestimates its power and thinks freedom of association with a little Christian tolerance and love tossed in is all it takes to solve the intractable problems of racial diversity.

    True freedom of association, which would naturally entail the right to discriminate, could defuse escalating racial tensions but we need to go beyond that to ethnostates free of Jewish influence or they will use their obscene group wealth, power and privilege to forcibly re-integrate society. After all, they feel more secure in a highly diverse society where different racial groups can be pitted against each other as an added security measure.

    For every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction. The alt-right and white nationalist movements are just long delayed reactions by whites to the tribalism and identity politics being practiced by American blacks and every third world racial group that has been allowed entry thanks to the suicidal immigration and nationality act of 1965 which has turned American into a dumping ground for the entire third world and now poses an existential threat to whites in N. America.

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  36. @John Jeremiah Smith

    You’re just ashamed because you’re of a lesser race. Are you Jewish, Asian or associated with one of them? Are you Italian or Irish in your heritage. You should be with the fags and the gooks for insulting one of the white race in defense of a spic or a half-spic, you belong with them.
     
    ROTFLMMFAO.

    You little girl, run back to Mommy.

    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman – Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman – Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.
     
    Uh huh. And I so totally do not care. And it so totally amuses me that anybody does. What a waste of lifespan.
  37. Nathan says:

    Thank you for this well thought out article, Mr Yates. I have been waiting for someone to actually debate the alt-right perspective honestly, and this article definitely provides many interesting jumping off points.

    Your proposed alternative — community focused self-reliance — may lead to more bile and harassment towards you than you might have imagined. I have spent a fair amount of time reading authors in the peak-oil crowd and it is amazing how much people will contort your message to avoid any suggestion that industrialism and consumerism are poison pills for humanity.

    I acknowledge you are approaching these conclusions from a different angle, but your are still committing the biggest modern heresy!

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  38. @attilathehen
    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman - Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.

    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman – Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.

    Uh huh. And I so totally do not care. And it so totally amuses me that anybody does. What a waste of lifespan.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    "I so totally do not care...waste of lifespan." You are the opposite of Anonymous. Race, iq. religioin, these things matter. They are very important to the alt- right. You sound like John Derbyshire (Chinese wife).

    If you don't care about the West, why bother commenting about it?
  39. Art says:

    The idea of “natural rights” is a falsehood – there are no natural rights – there never were any human rights – they had to be created and agreed too.

    The rights we have in America are a product of conscious decisions made by our white male Christian forefathers – end of story. They agreed to limit the authority of the state over its people.

    Those intellectually created rights from government dictate, were put into words and put on paper. (Before the ink was dry – people were trying to tear them down.)

    Eventually those created human rights were extended to all people – race, sex, and religion.

    Clearly, good things happen when those intellectually created rights are extended to everyone. The world has never been the same – humanity made a momentous intellectual move forward.

    When people tear down and belittle those achievements – they only hurt themselves.

    Peace — Art

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    The idea of “natural rights” is a falsehood – there are no natural rights – there never were any human rights – they had to be created and agreed too.
     
    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    What happened to you? You are not what was intended...
  40. Kant and Religion is not as you desccribe it. At least not as distinct.

    “Ich musste also das Wissen aufheben, um zum Glauben Platz zu haben.”

    My transklation: I had to secure knowledge, to make room for faith. – (Kant about his Critque of Pure Reason)

    1799 in Reflexion 8106: “Es ist unmöglich, dass ein Mensch ohne Religion seines Lebens froh werde.”
    People do need religion to be happy (=lead a happy life).

    You could have mentioned Weber, Dewey, Rawls, Rorty and Habermas (Habermas to make sure, that left Hegelianism is not neccessarily against Religion).

    The systematically most important author in that respect is Erich Fromm (B. Obama’s once outspoken, then secret – intellectual hero). And Fromm is openly and outspokenly p r o Religion – as a Neo-Freudian.

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    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @German_reader
    Yes, but wasn't Kant referring rather to "natural religion", that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?
    I mean it's one thing to state you believe in God (even if that raises the question "What is God?")...it's quite a different thing to believe in the Trinity, Christ died for our sins etc.
  41. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Art
    The idea of “natural rights” is a falsehood – there are no natural rights – there never were any human rights – they had to be created and agreed too.

    The rights we have in America are a product of conscious decisions made by our white male Christian forefathers – end of story. They agreed to limit the authority of the state over its people.

    Those intellectually created rights from government dictate, were put into words and put on paper. (Before the ink was dry – people were trying to tear them down.)

    Eventually those created human rights were extended to all people – race, sex, and religion.

    Clearly, good things happen when those intellectually created rights are extended to everyone. The world has never been the same – humanity made a momentous intellectual move forward.

    When people tear down and belittle those achievements – they only hurt themselves.

    Peace — Art

    The idea of “natural rights” is a falsehood – there are no natural rights – there never were any human rights – they had to be created and agreed too.

    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    What happened to you? You are not what was intended

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    • Replies: @Art
    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    Defending one's self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.

    Peace --- Art
  42. Agent76 says:

    Jul 28, 2016 How Did The U.S. End Up With A Two-Party System?

    Democrats and Republicans dominate the American political system, leaving third parties behind. So why is there a two party system?

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  43. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Good points. Latin America is heterogenous. But everyone knows the white Latins have no problems in the USA and Anglicize. A commentator on another site made comments about Argentines. I pointed out that King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands is married to an Argentine woman – Maxima, who is of Spanish, Portuguese and Italian descent. The Grand Duke of Luxembourg married a white Cuban woman. Juan Trippe the founder of PanAm airlines was named after a Venezuelan woman his great uncle married. Again, these are white women. But I gave the example of Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman. Geraldo Rivera is a black Jew. His father was a light-skinned black Puerto Rican, his mother an Ashkenazi Jewess. People have always known about these differences.
     
    Uh huh. And I so totally do not care. And it so totally amuses me that anybody does. What a waste of lifespan.

    “I so totally do not care…waste of lifespan.” You are the opposite of Anonymous. Race, iq. religioin, these things matter. They are very important to the alt- right. You sound like John Derbyshire (Chinese wife).

    If you don’t care about the West, why bother commenting about it?

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    If you don’t care about the West, why bother commenting about it?
     
    You are a complete idiot. Nobody with a lick of sense gives two shits what the alt-right "thinks", the alt-right being composed of utter morons. Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).
  44. @Dieter Kief
    Kant and Religion is not as you desccribe it. At least not as distinct.

    "Ich musste also das Wissen aufheben, um zum Glauben Platz zu haben."

    My transklation: I had to secure knowledge, to make room for faith. - (Kant about his Critque of Pure Reason)

    1799 in Reflexion 8106: "Es ist unmöglich, dass ein Mensch ohne Religion seines Lebens froh werde."
    People do need religion to be happy (=lead a happy life).

    You could have mentioned Weber, Dewey, Rawls, Rorty and Habermas (Habermas to make sure, that left Hegelianism is not neccessarily against Religion).

    The systematically most important author in that respect is Erich Fromm (B. Obama's once outspoken, then secret - intellectual hero). And Fromm is openly and outspokenly p r o Religion - as a Neo-Freudian.

    Yes, but wasn’t Kant referring rather to “natural religion”, that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?
    I mean it’s one thing to state you believe in God (even if that raises the question “What is God?”)…it’s quite a different thing to believe in the Trinity, Christ died for our sins etc.

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    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    "Yes, but wasn’t Kant referring rather to “natural religion”, that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?"

    This question is quite different from the idea, Kant would have been against religion.

    You're really in theologians country, when rising such a question. You could go backwards via Spinoza and Jakob Böhme to Meister Eckhart and find, that you've come deep into Judeo-Christian territory as well as in Kants realm.

    The main - often times misread point in Kants thinking was to say: There's nothing left to prove by worldy (esp. scientific) means, what God is concerned. That ended myriads of unnecessary discussions, and put an end to fearful interventions into the realm of science by the church.

    Kant made room for faith in a scientific world - and helped science to coexist with faith.

    If you're interested in these things, you might want to have a look at: "God" - by Kantian (and Wittgensteinian, and Heideggerian and Hegelian...) thinker Thomas Rentsch. Rentsch is maybe a tad more elaborate than my humble lines here, but all in all a real scholar - and quite clear, too.

  45. Art says:
    @Anonymous

    The idea of “natural rights” is a falsehood – there are no natural rights – there never were any human rights – they had to be created and agreed too.
     
    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    What happened to you? You are not what was intended...

    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    Defending one’s self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.

    Peace — Art

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What? You can't have freedom if you're dead. Please pay attention.

    Even now in Heaven there were angels carrying savage weapons.
     
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Defending one’s self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.
     
    Not really. Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.

    Art, these guys have little grasp on abstract concepts. They don't understand that an underlying survival instinct does not, by any stretch of the imagination, endow some sort of magical "natural right" -- which nonexistent "right" most of them believe is transmuted into Divine Law. Whatever ... it's a crock.
  46. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Art
    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    Defending one's self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.

    Peace --- Art

    What? You can’t have freedom if you’re dead. Please pay attention.

    Even now in Heaven there were angels carrying savage weapons.

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  47. Che Guava says:
    @jilles dykstra
    A very long story without, in my opinion, clear statements.

    I wonder if the writer ever drove from Miami to the Keys, one then on the left sees the multitude of banks, one for every S American country, the best visual proof on how the USA controls S American countries, the beloved Monroe Doctrine.
    John Gerassi, 'The Great Fear in Latin America', 1963, 1969, London.
    Who knows how Barrick Gold behaves in Argentina right now is of the opinion that little has changed in S America since 1963.

    I also wonder if the writer ever read
    Charles A. Beard, ‘American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932 – 1940, A study in responsibilities’, New Haven, 1946
    how Roosevelt began the era of USA wars, slowly preparing the USA people for war.
    From 1933 until 1945 Roosevelt was the USA dictator.

    Deep State has one very positive aspect, it demonstrates how strong anti democratic forces are in the USA.

    Well said, Jilles.

    My big trouble with this, and where I was completely to losing concentration, was the nonsensical statement that the Fabian Society was the origin of Britain’s Labour movement.

    Talk about cart before horse!

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  48. @attilathehen
    "I so totally do not care...waste of lifespan." You are the opposite of Anonymous. Race, iq. religioin, these things matter. They are very important to the alt- right. You sound like John Derbyshire (Chinese wife).

    If you don't care about the West, why bother commenting about it?

    If you don’t care about the West, why bother commenting about it?

    You are a complete idiot. Nobody with a lick of sense gives two shits what the alt-right “thinks”, the alt-right being composed of utter morons. Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Hilligula cared enough about the alt-right to give it national attention. Hence Trump.

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians? The U.S. government stole a lot when Obummer was president, i.e., welfare for illegals, giving left wing groups money, etc. Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?

    , @Miro23

    Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).
     
    So why the shock and surprise? Most Special Interests are businesses that spend their time fighting competitors and looking for advantage for owners and shareholders. If they win in a competitive world then that's great, and they're not going to spend time worrying about their competitors that go out of business.

    From the corporate viewpoint , government is just another feature of their competitive environment to be avoided/exploited for profit, and in the US, they've found that they can make profitable deals with politicians - trading money and support in return for legislation.

    There's a history behind this, with the best summary I've found in Jane Jacobs' "Systems of Survival: A Dialogue on the Moral Foundations of Commerce and Politics"

    The framework is a world divided into COMMERCIALS and GUARDIANS and both are necessary.

    The Commercials compete in free markets , developing new products and industries and generally creating wealth and employment. It's hard work with the ever present risk of bankruptcy but it's the way societies become rich and successful.

    The Guardians are the people in government who 1) set the rules of the free market such as the Law of Contract - that allow long term investment and planning 2) protect the public interest of health, education and defense 3) provide a national ethos/structure of values around which society can unite and trust one another.

    A prime function of Guardians is to KEEP COMMERCIALS OUT OF GOVERNMENT since Commercial DNA is profit maximization rather than the national benefit. Commercials are only going to be interested in health and defense to the extent that they can maximize their profits, and they're also going to introduce an ethos that suits their private interests (neo-liberalism, outsourcing, open borders etc.).

    For example, the most powerful US Jewish Special Interest has a typical function. Firstly to capture the US money creation system (the FED) to indebt the US public with $ trillions directed toward their speculation , but also to capture further $ trillions to support their ethnic Special Interest wars (in this repect they are also Guardians , but of Israel).

    The basic rule is that Commercials have to be explicitly excluded from government (even socially) with elected representatives strictly bound to represent the interests of the public who elected them .

    https://www.amazon.com/Systems-Survival-Dialogue-Foundations-Commerce/dp/0679748164/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499147763&sr=8-1&keywords=Systems+of+Survival+%3A+A+Dialogue+on+the+Moral+Foundations+of+Commerce+and+Politics+%28Vintage%29
  49. @Art
    Nope. The natural right to self defence is as primal as it goes. Both you and me had every single ancestor in our family tree survive long enough to procreate.

    Defending one's self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.

    Peace --- Art

    Defending one’s self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.

    Not really. Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.

    Art, these guys have little grasp on abstract concepts. They don’t understand that an underlying survival instinct does not, by any stretch of the imagination, endow some sort of magical “natural right” — which nonexistent “right” most of them believe is transmuted into Divine Law. Whatever … it’s a crock.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    "Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success."

    That's what Art said, so why the "Not Really" ?
  50. Art says:

    Absent Christianity, there is no God to give anyone rights,

    The great value of Christianity to human kind is not its connection to God – there are other religions with connections to the same God – but they have not produced the same beneficial outcome that Christianity has achieved.

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life – freedom is not possible.

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself – seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.

    Son of God or not – the idealistic words of Jesus are the difference between freedom and not.

    Peace — Art

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself – seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.
     
    Perfect. Christian - or better yet Christian Orthodox tradition - will keep you safe in your enclaves while the butchers like me are keeping your neck un-severed...

    Please, tell us about your "awareness"...
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life – freedom is not possible.
     
    Oh, don't be ridiculous. Freedom is eminently possible without Christianity. Nor does Christianity have an "idealistic philosophical approach to life". Suggest you re-read, as you are prattling nonsense.
  51. @John Jeremiah Smith

    If you don’t care about the West, why bother commenting about it?
     
    You are a complete idiot. Nobody with a lick of sense gives two shits what the alt-right "thinks", the alt-right being composed of utter morons. Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).

    Hilligula cared enough about the alt-right to give it national attention. Hence Trump.

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians? The U.S. government stole a lot when Obummer was president, i.e., welfare for illegals, giving left wing groups money, etc. Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    Gawd! I hate being on the same side of Trump with some of these people!
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians?
     
    Why? Are you?

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?
     
    Oh, dear. I believe you will ultimately have to be blocked. For now, I'll just let it ride.
  52. @Mao Cheng Ji

    Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!
     
    Totally agree.

    The rest of the piece is pure drivel, unfortunately. There's no such thing as 'cultural marxism'. If the word 'marxism' means anything, it's two things: materialism and class struggle. Liberal identity politics is precisely an anti-maxist ploy, designed to split the working class into small warring clans.

    Liberal identity politics is precisely an anti-maxist ploy, designed to split the working class into small warring clans.

    The left has substituted the Marxist proletarian working class with the anti-Nazi victim class.

    Identity politics is all about gaining federal entitlements for victim class people, and victim class people are the privileged-by-law elite, not the working class or the bourgeoisie class.

    Victim class people self identify by proclaiming themselves to be oppressed by white supremacist or white straight Christian males or Nazi.

    Leftist being all democrats and all neocons are the privileged-by-law elite in the US and Israel.

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  53. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Art
    Absent Christianity, there is no God to give anyone rights,

    The great value of Christianity to human kind is not its connection to God – there are other religions with connections to the same God - but they have not produced the same beneficial outcome that Christianity has achieved.

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life - freedom is not possible.

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself - seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.

    Son of God or not – the idealistic words of Jesus are the difference between freedom and not.

    Peace --- Art

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself – seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.

    Perfect. Christian – or better yet Christian Orthodox tradition – will keep you safe in your enclaves while the butchers like me are keeping your neck un-severed…

    Please, tell us about your “awareness”…

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    • Replies: @Art
    Perfect. Christian – or better yet Christian Orthodox tradition – will keep you safe in your enclaves while the butchers like me are keeping your neck un-severed…

    Hmm - not to worry - except for Japan - the strongest armies in the last 100 years have been Christian.

    Unfortunately, when it comes to war and peace, Christian idealistic philosophy has taken a back seat to national tribalism.

    We must change that.

    Peace --- Art
  54. Che Guava says:

    To the mods., site admin.

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.

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    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.
     
    It's definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.

    Was the warning just appearing on this particular page? If so, it was related to an external image, and I've fixed the problem. Or was the warning appearing throughout the website?
  55. Art says:
    @Anonymous

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself – seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.
     
    Perfect. Christian - or better yet Christian Orthodox tradition - will keep you safe in your enclaves while the butchers like me are keeping your neck un-severed...

    Please, tell us about your "awareness"...

    Perfect. Christian – or better yet Christian Orthodox tradition – will keep you safe in your enclaves while the butchers like me are keeping your neck un-severed…

    Hmm – not to worry – except for Japan – the strongest armies in the last 100 years have been Christian.

    Unfortunately, when it comes to war and peace, Christian idealistic philosophy has taken a back seat to national tribalism.

    We must change that.

    Peace — Art

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  56. Che Guava says:

    The message is that the certificate is not trustworthy, that it is not to be relied on in my OS, and that there may be an intermediary. Excuse the broken-up message.

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  57. iffen says:
    @attilathehen
    Hilligula cared enough about the alt-right to give it national attention. Hence Trump.

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians? The U.S. government stole a lot when Obummer was president, i.e., welfare for illegals, giving left wing groups money, etc. Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?

    Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    Gawd! I hate being on the same side of Trump with some of these people!

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    iffen - I think I've seen you buzzen around Unz. What are your stats?
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Alt-Right or die.
  58. Ron Unz says:
    @Che Guava
    To the mods., site admin.

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.

    It’s definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.

    Was the warning just appearing on this particular page? If so, it was related to an external image, and I’ve fixed the problem. Or was the warning appearing throughout the website?

    Read More
    • Replies: @geokat62

    It’s definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.
     
    Does this have anything to do with the "Leave a Comment" button being disabled?
    , @Che Guava
    Dear Ron,

    Sincere thanks, it seems to be OK now. Although continuing until this evening, probably just because I forgot my phone this morning.

    The warning was on any page, but is not appearing now.

    Regards, thx again.
  59. RobinG says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Defending one’s self is a biological imperative – freedom is an intellectual decision agreed upon by society.
     
    Not really. Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.

    Art, these guys have little grasp on abstract concepts. They don't understand that an underlying survival instinct does not, by any stretch of the imagination, endow some sort of magical "natural right" -- which nonexistent "right" most of them believe is transmuted into Divine Law. Whatever ... it's a crock.

    “Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.”

    That’s what Art said, so why the “Not Really” ?

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.”

    That’s what Art said, so why the “Not Really” ?
     
    No. Art said "Defending one’s self is a biological imperative."
  60. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.
     
    It's definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.

    Was the warning just appearing on this particular page? If so, it was related to an external image, and I've fixed the problem. Or was the warning appearing throughout the website?

    It’s definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.

    Does this have anything to do with the “Leave a Comment” button being disabled?

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    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    Does this have anything to do with the “Leave a Comment” button being disabled?
     
    No. That bug must have been introduced when I released the Book software to the website. Thanks for noticing, and it should now be fixed.
  61. @iffen
    Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    Gawd! I hate being on the same side of Trump with some of these people!

    iffen – I think I’ve seen you buzzen around Unz. What are your stats?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    What are your stats?

    Southern Scotch-Irish working class; I don't hate people for their biological mishaps; I hate'em for what they think.
    , @Anonymous
    He's from inferior non-Anglo mudblood along with the tainted Irish stock(see Brett Stevens to see how they have Asian blood) but you're not much better with your negroid Italian blood. In the world to come you will both go into the wood chipper where you should have been put in as infants.
  62. joe webb says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    The author fell in lust, I mean love , and that is an argument? Indigenous IQ is 83 average.

    Puhlease. Joe Webb
     
    Shit. And I do mean Shit! You self-obsessed little dumbass prick. Every single one of those "83 IQ" Chileans is not so fucking STUPID and IGNORANT as to sign every damn post with the same name prominently displayed right up-front. That's o'er-weening ego, you dimwit.

    You epitomize the utter dumbassery of the worst of "alt-right". "alt.dumbfuck" is more properly descriptive.

    [Sorry, Ron Unz. Sometimes a man's gotta say what a man's gotta say.]

    John
    Smith, I have never called anyone on this list insane, but You are insane. Joe Webb

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    John
    Smith, I have never called anyone on this list insane, but You are insane. Joe Webb
     
    List? What list? You're a freaking nutjob, Joe-Bob.
  63. RudyM says:

    If you put the altar call first, it saves readers’ time.

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  64. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    It’s definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.
     
    Does this have anything to do with the "Leave a Comment" button being disabled?

    Does this have anything to do with the “Leave a Comment” button being disabled?

    No. That bug must have been introduced when I released the Book software to the website. Thanks for noticing, and it should now be fixed.

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  65. iffen says:
    @attilathehen
    iffen - I think I've seen you buzzen around Unz. What are your stats?

    What are your stats?

    Southern Scotch-Irish working class; I don’t hate people for their biological mishaps; I hate’em for what they think.

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  66. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Does this have anything to do with the “Leave a Comment” button being disabled?
     
    No. That bug must have been introduced when I released the Book software to the website. Thanks for noticing, and it should now be fixed.

    Thanks, Ron.

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  67. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    iffen - I think I've seen you buzzen around Unz. What are your stats?

    He’s from inferior non-Anglo mudblood along with the tainted Irish stock(see Brett Stevens to see how they have Asian blood) but you’re not much better with your negroid Italian blood. In the world to come you will both go into the wood chipper where you should have been put in as infants.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    WOW!!! iffen is kosher. He just sounds like a liberal. Maybe you're John Jeremiah Smith??? You are also definitely insane. (Joe Webb you are right about JJS. This term is now applicable to Anonymous.)

    Queen Silvia of Sweden. She was born in Germany to a German father and Portuguese mother.

    These "spic chicks" (Queens Maxima, Silvia, the Grand Duchess Theresa of Luxembourg - all from the middle classes) have done quite well for themselves.

    Have you or anyone in your family been able to make such connections? Methinks you are that half Jew Anonymous that posts comments.

  68. @Clark Westwood
    I didn't read the whole thing (needless to say), but IMO the alt-right's identity politics is essentially just a response to the left's identity politics. The alt-right is basically saying to the left, "OK, if that's how you want to play it, then whites are just as entitled to celebrate their heritage as NAMs are entitled to celebrate theirs. And if not, why not?"

    And if not, why not?

    Intellectual honesty?

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  69. @Anonymous
    He's from inferior non-Anglo mudblood along with the tainted Irish stock(see Brett Stevens to see how they have Asian blood) but you're not much better with your negroid Italian blood. In the world to come you will both go into the wood chipper where you should have been put in as infants.

    WOW!!! iffen is kosher. He just sounds like a liberal. Maybe you’re John Jeremiah Smith??? You are also definitely insane. (Joe Webb you are right about JJS. This term is now applicable to Anonymous.)

    Queen Silvia of Sweden. She was born in Germany to a German father and Portuguese mother.

    These “spic chicks” (Queens Maxima, Silvia, the Grand Duchess Theresa of Luxembourg – all from the middle classes) have done quite well for themselves.

    Have you or anyone in your family been able to make such connections? Methinks you are that half Jew Anonymous that posts comments.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The problem is not how well they "do well" for themselves, plenty of other spics, gooks and niggers "do well" for themselves through their animal cunning but it is a question of genetics and the impurities that they introduce. Through long term admixture it introduces trace elements of each of the lesser traces until the original group is effectively as genocided as if they were killed. The fact that you are perfectly fine with it suggests that you are a typical Irish or Italian and perfectly fine with introducing your own version of negroid blood into the Aryan stream while santimoniously pleading Jews to distract those from the horrific actions that your scum-humans have put into the US.
  70. @Art
    Absent Christianity, there is no God to give anyone rights,

    The great value of Christianity to human kind is not its connection to God – there are other religions with connections to the same God - but they have not produced the same beneficial outcome that Christianity has achieved.

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life - freedom is not possible.

    Christian philosophy sets the standards by which a free society can function. These standards are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor as you love yourself - seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. These ideals form an engine for progress that can keep a free society forever moving forward. These ideals give us the bases for rational human cooperation.

    Son of God or not – the idealistic words of Jesus are the difference between freedom and not.

    Peace --- Art

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life – freedom is not possible.

    Oh, don’t be ridiculous. Freedom is eminently possible without Christianity. Nor does Christianity have an “idealistic philosophical approach to life”. Suggest you re-read, as you are prattling nonsense.

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    • Replies: @Art
    Freedom is eminently possible without Christianity.

    Where has it happened - where has freedom flourished, where people can vote on their future, where Christian values are not promulgated? There are many Western style democracies that are not Christian countries – but they copy Western Christian values that are not native to their cultures.

    Nor does Christianity have an “idealistic philosophical approach to life.

    Christianity has a approach to thinking about God, and it has an approach to thinking about how to interact with each other - it has a philosophy for living. That philosophy is idealistic in nature.

    Christianity recognizes our imperfect nature. It asks us to work towards a set of ideals. An ideal is never 100% achievable. Those Christian ideals are value hope, life, love, truth, forgiving, and grace. When we practice these goals, things get better. The beauty of idealism is that we can sometimes fail (we can be human) and still achieve a better life.

    Peace --- Art
  71. @attilathehen
    Hilligula cared enough about the alt-right to give it national attention. Hence Trump.

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians? The U.S. government stole a lot when Obummer was president, i.e., welfare for illegals, giving left wing groups money, etc. Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians?

    Why? Are you?

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?

    Oh, dear. I believe you will ultimately have to be blocked. For now, I’ll just let it ride.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Me blocked? Why? I deal with facts, reality. IQ is the ultimate objective reality. That's my starting point for everything. What do you think about IQ?
  72. @joe webb
    John
    Smith, I have never called anyone on this list insane, but You are insane. Joe Webb

    John
    Smith, I have never called anyone on this list insane, but You are insane. Joe Webb

    List? What list? You’re a freaking nutjob, Joe-Bob.

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  73. @RobinG
    "Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success."

    That's what Art said, so why the "Not Really" ?

    “Survival is an evolutionary priority instituted primarily by the Darwinian Prime Directive: reproductive success.”

    That’s what Art said, so why the “Not Really” ?

    No. Art said “Defending one’s self is a biological imperative.”

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  74. Miro23 says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    If you don’t care about the West, why bother commenting about it?
     
    You are a complete idiot. Nobody with a lick of sense gives two shits what the alt-right "thinks", the alt-right being composed of utter morons. Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).

    Not that the government of the USA is much smarter, but it does have a central motivation (to steal everything it can steal).

    So why the shock and surprise? Most Special Interests are businesses that spend their time fighting competitors and looking for advantage for owners and shareholders. If they win in a competitive world then that’s great, and they’re not going to spend time worrying about their competitors that go out of business.

    From the corporate viewpoint , government is just another feature of their competitive environment to be avoided/exploited for profit, and in the US, they’ve found that they can make profitable deals with politicians – trading money and support in return for legislation.

    There’s a history behind this, with the best summary I’ve found in Jane Jacobs’ “Systems of Survival: A Dialogue on the Moral Foundations of Commerce and Politics”

    The framework is a world divided into COMMERCIALS and GUARDIANS and both are necessary.

    The Commercials compete in free markets , developing new products and industries and generally creating wealth and employment. It’s hard work with the ever present risk of bankruptcy but it’s the way societies become rich and successful.

    The Guardians are the people in government who 1) set the rules of the free market such as the Law of Contract – that allow long term investment and planning 2) protect the public interest of health, education and defense 3) provide a national ethos/structure of values around which society can unite and trust one another.

    A prime function of Guardians is to KEEP COMMERCIALS OUT OF GOVERNMENT since Commercial DNA is profit maximization rather than the national benefit. Commercials are only going to be interested in health and defense to the extent that they can maximize their profits, and they’re also going to introduce an ethos that suits their private interests (neo-liberalism, outsourcing, open borders etc.).

    For example, the most powerful US Jewish Special Interest has a typical function. Firstly to capture the US money creation system (the FED) to indebt the US public with $ trillions directed toward their speculation , but also to capture further $ trillions to support their ethnic Special Interest wars (in this repect they are also Guardians , but of Israel).

    The basic rule is that Commercials have to be explicitly excluded from government (even socially) with elected representatives strictly bound to represent the interests of the public who elected them .

    https://www.amazon.com/Systems-Survival-Dialogue-Foundations-Commerce/dp/0679748164/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499147763&sr=8-1&keywords=Systems+of+Survival+%3A+A+Dialogue+on+the+Moral+Foundations+of+Commerce+and+Politics+%28Vintage%29

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  75. @German_reader
    Yes, but wasn't Kant referring rather to "natural religion", that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?
    I mean it's one thing to state you believe in God (even if that raises the question "What is God?")...it's quite a different thing to believe in the Trinity, Christ died for our sins etc.

    “Yes, but wasn’t Kant referring rather to “natural religion”, that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?”

    This question is quite different from the idea, Kant would have been against religion.

    You’re really in theologians country, when rising such a question. You could go backwards via Spinoza and Jakob Böhme to Meister Eckhart and find, that you’ve come deep into Judeo-Christian territory as well as in Kants realm.

    The main – often times misread point in Kants thinking was to say: There’s nothing left to prove by worldy (esp. scientific) means, what God is concerned. That ended myriads of unnecessary discussions, and put an end to fearful interventions into the realm of science by the church.

    Kant made room for faith in a scientific world – and helped science to coexist with faith.

    If you’re interested in these things, you might want to have a look at: “God” – by Kantian (and Wittgensteinian, and Heideggerian and Hegelian…) thinker Thomas Rentsch. Rentsch is maybe a tad more elaborate than my humble lines here, but all in all a real scholar – and quite clear, too.

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    • Replies: @German_reader
    Ok; thanks for the book recommendation, I might look into it.
  76. @iffen
    Trump has started to roll back many of these programs..

    Gawd! I hate being on the same side of Trump with some of these people!

    Alt-Right or die.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Alt-Right or die."

    You meant to say, Alt-Right and lie.
    , @Bumbling American
    We must troll each other or die.
  77. I can not over-emphasize the irrelevancy of IQ test score psychometrics to the Alt Right political-policy agenda which is a revolt against post-1965 genocidal race-replacement immigration policy.

    All Jared Taylor managed to do with his obssession with IQ test score psychometrics is to completely sidetrack a long overdue laser-beam like focus on Asian “Americans” participation in the economic and racial genocide of The Historic Native Born White Working Class Majority.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Jared Taylor is correct about IQ. I believe in IQ and evolution. My Christianity and politics are based on this. Asians copied the West. Asians cannot invent. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The world "Westernizes," it never "Easternizes." Caucasians have the highest IQs, then Asians, last are blacks.

    We now know that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. (Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81.) The ancient Aryans who invaded India mixed with the Asian aborigines. The Aryan part of India was destroyed. (Today the average Indian IQ is 82.)

    The darker skinned a person is, the lower the intelligence. The only Asians with any
    intelligence were the Japanese. My theory is because they were and island nation. Over the
    centuries the less intelligent were culled. This gave the Japaneses an average IQ of 100
    but because they did not have the "zigzag" in the brain, they were unable to develop
    a modern, Western style nation until Matthew Perry overthrew the shogunate and forced them
    to modernize. If this had not happened, Japan would still a rice paddy.

    The Asians in the USA are the "smarter" ones, but they do not belong in the West. There is nothing Asian or Jewish about the West. We have our own people that can do the jobs that need to be done.
    , @Saxon
    The only reason to talk about IQ at all is to illustrate that racial differences do indeed exist contra to the blank slate ideologists and their indoctrinees.

    Whether we are better or worse than any other group is not the relevant sticking point that a genocide is occurring and that we are a distinct population and not some fungible cog you can replace with whoever you want. Even the fact that the society obviously won't be or operate the same if we're gone is irrelevant to the argument which itself has moral characteristics.

    Ultimately though the enemy doesn't care about morals or arguments or anything other than getting what they want, which is why certain tactics are employed and why the end goal is spreading the ideas and getting people awakened and acutely aware as to what is going on while making them prepared at least mentally for certain eventualities i.e. the possibility this ends in actual wars, which it probably will seeing the inertia of these disastrous policies.
  78. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Alt-Right or die.

    “Alt-Right or die.”

    You meant to say, Alt-Right and lie.

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    Hey, that's clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    You are infatuated with me.
  79. Che Guava says:
    @Ron Unz

    Opera browser in Japanese is saying the site is a security risk. I am not knowing, but may be worth checking for why.
     
    It's definitely related to our website switch-over from the http: to the https: protocol in the last couple of days.

    Was the warning just appearing on this particular page? If so, it was related to an external image, and I've fixed the problem. Or was the warning appearing throughout the website?

    Dear Ron,

    Sincere thanks, it seems to be OK now. Although continuing until this evening, probably just because I forgot my phone this morning.

    The warning was on any page, but is not appearing now.

    Regards, thx again.

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    It's back again now, same warning. Every post of the few tonight. I do think it is to do with the shift to https, also perhaps that Opera does not paying attention.

    My expertise is at the lower level, chips and programs, basic tech.

    I don't have root access to my stupidphone, it is pointless, but have process monitoring and file-system monitoring tools, no sign of an invasion.

    In any case, it is not a big deal, Opera was popular here at one time, not now, I suppose I am one of a tiny minority for Japanese 'net users to use it now, so it is not the big problem, but it is irritation!

    May still be a problem with site settings on your site's side.

    Regards.
    , @Che Guava
    The same again. I was accidentally replying to myself on post 138 on this thread, it was intended for you, please read it. I strongly suspect that Japanese Opera browser's diagnosis is correct, it says there are two possibilities:a 'man in the middle' attack, or incorrect settings related to the https cert. on your good site.

    Regards.
  80. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    WOW!!! iffen is kosher. He just sounds like a liberal. Maybe you're John Jeremiah Smith??? You are also definitely insane. (Joe Webb you are right about JJS. This term is now applicable to Anonymous.)

    Queen Silvia of Sweden. She was born in Germany to a German father and Portuguese mother.

    These "spic chicks" (Queens Maxima, Silvia, the Grand Duchess Theresa of Luxembourg - all from the middle classes) have done quite well for themselves.

    Have you or anyone in your family been able to make such connections? Methinks you are that half Jew Anonymous that posts comments.

    The problem is not how well they “do well” for themselves, plenty of other spics, gooks and niggers “do well” for themselves through their animal cunning but it is a question of genetics and the impurities that they introduce. Through long term admixture it introduces trace elements of each of the lesser traces until the original group is effectively as genocided as if they were killed. The fact that you are perfectly fine with it suggests that you are a typical Irish or Italian and perfectly fine with introducing your own version of negroid blood into the Aryan stream while santimoniously pleading Jews to distract those from the horrific actions that your scum-humans have put into the US.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    I'm not Italian or Irish.

    Also, Prince Philip, the Queen's husband is Greek. I've read Greeks are suspect. Interesting "addition" to the royal family.

  81. Art says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Christianity’s benefit to human kind is its philosophical prescription for living. Without Christianity’s idealistic philosophical approach to life – freedom is not possible.
     
    Oh, don't be ridiculous. Freedom is eminently possible without Christianity. Nor does Christianity have an "idealistic philosophical approach to life". Suggest you re-read, as you are prattling nonsense.

    Freedom is eminently possible without Christianity.

    Where has it happened – where has freedom flourished, where people can vote on their future, where Christian values are not promulgated? There are many Western style democracies that are not Christian countries – but they copy Western Christian values that are not native to their cultures.

    Nor does Christianity have an “idealistic philosophical approach to life.

    Christianity has a approach to thinking about God, and it has an approach to thinking about how to interact with each other – it has a philosophy for living. That philosophy is idealistic in nature.

    Christianity recognizes our imperfect nature. It asks us to work towards a set of ideals. An ideal is never 100% achievable. Those Christian ideals are value hope, life, love, truth, forgiving, and grace. When we practice these goals, things get better. The beauty of idealism is that we can sometimes fail (we can be human) and still achieve a better life.

    Peace — Art

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  82. Holy wall of text batman…

    I am sympathetic to the Alt Right, but I cannot subscribe to ethnonationalism. Race is real and important, but it is not foundational…especially not in the way Richard Spencer uses the term, picturing a grand European ethnostate.

    I also think you need to disaggregate your discussion of “diversity.” Current Leftist “diversity” means you mass-import the retards of Earth into European countries…which is disastrous.

    But when we get to cognitive elites, diversity is net neutral or even beneficial. There’s no reason to let nationalist concerns hobble the free movement of skilled individuals, especially when there is a broad economic consensus about the benefits they bring to Western societies.

    On the same grounds, I cannot be sympathetic to protectionism.

    So in the end, I would favor offering an opt-out and a detente to the Alt Right, but not giving them a state.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Race is foundational. What defines the West? "Whiteness," "Caucasianess," "fair-skinned," - these are the markers.

    I don't know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson. I don't want the "cognitive elites" of Asia or Africa to have a say or stay in the West. They have nothing to offer the West.
  83. @Anonymous
    The problem is not how well they "do well" for themselves, plenty of other spics, gooks and niggers "do well" for themselves through their animal cunning but it is a question of genetics and the impurities that they introduce. Through long term admixture it introduces trace elements of each of the lesser traces until the original group is effectively as genocided as if they were killed. The fact that you are perfectly fine with it suggests that you are a typical Irish or Italian and perfectly fine with introducing your own version of negroid blood into the Aryan stream while santimoniously pleading Jews to distract those from the horrific actions that your scum-humans have put into the US.

    I’m not Italian or Irish.

    Also, Prince Philip, the Queen’s husband is Greek. I’ve read Greeks are suspect. Interesting “addition” to the royal family.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    Brave Anonymous apparently thinks Irish and Italians aren't "real whites." Fair enough. I've tried repeatedly to get someone to define who is and is not white, and why. Crickets.

    I can vaguely understand Italians, they often being somewhat swarthy. But if Conan O-Brien and his ilk aren't white, I can't imagine who is.

    BTW, Prince Philip is/was a member of the Greek Royal Family. But his ancestry is Danish/German/Russian/English, a result of the days when a newly independent nation would bring in some second son from a second-rank royal house to be its monarch. It's highly doubtful there's any actual Greek in him at all.
  84. @Dieter Kief
    "Yes, but wasn’t Kant referring rather to “natural religion”, that is some vague Deism, not to a revealed religion like Christianity with all its dogmas?"

    This question is quite different from the idea, Kant would have been against religion.

    You're really in theologians country, when rising such a question. You could go backwards via Spinoza and Jakob Böhme to Meister Eckhart and find, that you've come deep into Judeo-Christian territory as well as in Kants realm.

    The main - often times misread point in Kants thinking was to say: There's nothing left to prove by worldy (esp. scientific) means, what God is concerned. That ended myriads of unnecessary discussions, and put an end to fearful interventions into the realm of science by the church.

    Kant made room for faith in a scientific world - and helped science to coexist with faith.

    If you're interested in these things, you might want to have a look at: "God" - by Kantian (and Wittgensteinian, and Heideggerian and Hegelian...) thinker Thomas Rentsch. Rentsch is maybe a tad more elaborate than my humble lines here, but all in all a real scholar - and quite clear, too.

    Ok; thanks for the book recommendation, I might look into it.

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  85. @War for Blair Mountain
    I can not over-emphasize the irrelevancy of IQ test score psychometrics to the Alt Right political-policy agenda which is a revolt against post-1965 genocidal race-replacement immigration policy.

    All Jared Taylor managed to do with his obssession with IQ test score psychometrics is to completely sidetrack a long overdue laser-beam like focus on Asian "Americans" participation in the economic and racial genocide of The Historic Native Born White Working Class Majority.

    Jared Taylor is correct about IQ. I believe in IQ and evolution. My Christianity and politics are based on this. Asians copied the West. Asians cannot invent. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The world “Westernizes,” it never “Easternizes.” Caucasians have the highest IQs, then Asians, last are blacks.

    We now know that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. (Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81.) The ancient Aryans who invaded India mixed with the Asian aborigines. The Aryan part of India was destroyed. (Today the average Indian IQ is 82.)

    The darker skinned a person is, the lower the intelligence. The only Asians with any
    intelligence were the Japanese. My theory is because they were and island nation. Over the
    centuries the less intelligent were culled. This gave the Japaneses an average IQ of 100
    but because they did not have the “zigzag” in the brain, they were unable to develop
    a modern, Western style nation until Matthew Perry overthrew the shogunate and forced them
    to modernize. If this had not happened, Japan would still a rice paddy.

    The Asians in the USA are the “smarter” ones, but they do not belong in the West. There is nothing Asian or Jewish about the West. We have our own people that can do the jobs that need to be done.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    Just curious. Why do you think the natural culling process was more efficient in island Japan than in China and Korea, subject to repeated invasion by outsiders, in addition to the civil wars that plagued Japan?
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    I don't care about your Asianphile cuck fantasies...neither does the Native Born White American Working Class....whose Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Sons are being economically drafted by Asianphile and race-replacement enthusiast Donald Trump...as canon fodder into the US Army for Donald's precious Jew-only-Israel...

    Perhaps you and Donald Trump can inhale a barage of IQ test score psychometrics together and get high over the PISA Scores from Malaysia....
  86. @Myron Gaines
    Holy wall of text batman...

    I am sympathetic to the Alt Right, but I cannot subscribe to ethnonationalism. Race is real and important, but it is not foundational...especially not in the way Richard Spencer uses the term, picturing a grand European ethnostate.

    ---

    I also think you need to disaggregate your discussion of "diversity." Current Leftist "diversity" means you mass-import the retards of Earth into European countries...which is disastrous.

    But when we get to cognitive elites, diversity is net neutral or even beneficial. There's no reason to let nationalist concerns hobble the free movement of skilled individuals, especially when there is a broad economic consensus about the benefits they bring to Western societies.

    ---

    On the same grounds, I cannot be sympathetic to protectionism.

    ---

    So in the end, I would favor offering an opt-out and a detente to the Alt Right, but not giving them a state.

    Race is foundational. What defines the West? “Whiteness,” “Caucasianess,” “fair-skinned,” – these are the markers.

    I don’t know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson. I don’t want the “cognitive elites” of Asia or Africa to have a say or stay in the West. They have nothing to offer the West.

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    • Replies: @Myron Gaines
    I don’t know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson.

    I actually live in a predominately Black/Latino community, and I understand your concerns. Indeed, the issue of Black integration seems to be intractable, and innate mental differences probably play a large role in that.

    I think the best we can do is offer them federated status within America. It is not justified, charitable, or practical to evict them.

    ---

    “Whiteness,” “Caucasianess,” “fair-skinned,”

    I'm not very interested in aesthetics.

    ---

    They have nothing to offer the West.

    Silicon Valley as you know it would not exist without cognitive elites from around the world concentrating there. Many other elite fields would suffer as well, from medicine to engineering. Rather than letting them languish in corrupt 3rd world societies, by bringing them here we have allowed them to contribute immensely to the world.

    Please don't respond "High IQ Natives should be doing the jobs." They already do, and this isn't a zero sum game anyways. The strong benefits of skilled immigration are incontrovertible.

    http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/high-skilled-immigrants

  87. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Are you Jewish? Asian? Involved with Asians?
     
    Why? Are you?

    What is your ideal government? People in a country? What do you think about IQ?
     
    Oh, dear. I believe you will ultimately have to be blocked. For now, I'll just let it ride.

    Me blocked? Why? I deal with facts, reality. IQ is the ultimate objective reality. That’s my starting point for everything. What do you think about IQ?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    What do you think about IQ?

    I think that you are doing a good job of holding up the left side of the white curve.
  88. @Corvinus
    "Alt-Right or die."

    You meant to say, Alt-Right and lie.

    Hey, that’s clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Hey, that’s clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?"

    Except cuck is an utterly meaningless term. It's clearly worn out its welcome.
  89. iffen says:
    @attilathehen
    Me blocked? Why? I deal with facts, reality. IQ is the ultimate objective reality. That's my starting point for everything. What do you think about IQ?

    What do you think about IQ?

    I think that you are doing a good job of holding up the left side of the white curve.

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    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Wittiness from a degenerate? That's LOL. We do lose some.

    Daniel Chieh: Your male Asian inferiority complex is showing.

  90. “Chile is not perfect. By and large, wages are low here, much lower than in the U.S. The economy is neoliberal and could be described as corporatism-lite. There is a lot of sluggish bureaucracy, for which Chileans have a Spanish word: trámites. There is a lot of distrust within the culture outside one’s own family and personal network. Much of this is justified, for there is a lot of thievery, and people will take advantage of you. But the plusses surely outweigh the negatives. Chile is not at war with anyone, has no designs on its neighbors, and harbors no ambitions of global hegemony. It has a strong military for defensive purposes. Anyone invading Chile would immediately regret it!”

    From your description Chile seems to have the same problems as Brazil, only much attenuated, and most of the advantages, only much magnified. In Brazil, besides thievery of the kind you mentioned, there is also the other kind, the one in which one may wind up with a bullet in one’s head. As for “designs on its neighbors”, you may be technically right, but it seems one neighbor might have designs on Chile:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_border_dispute

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    • Replies: @Logan
    Bolivia would certainly like to have its outlet to the sea back, but it ain't gonna happen. Bolivia is a much more dysfunctional country than Chile and doesn't have any chance at all of waging successful reconquista.
  91. @attilathehen
    Race is foundational. What defines the West? "Whiteness," "Caucasianess," "fair-skinned," - these are the markers.

    I don't know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson. I don't want the "cognitive elites" of Asia or Africa to have a say or stay in the West. They have nothing to offer the West.

    I don’t know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson.

    I actually live in a predominately Black/Latino community, and I understand your concerns. Indeed, the issue of Black integration seems to be intractable, and innate mental differences probably play a large role in that.

    I think the best we can do is offer them federated status within America. It is not justified, charitable, or practical to evict them.

    “Whiteness,” “Caucasianess,” “fair-skinned,”

    I’m not very interested in aesthetics.

    They have nothing to offer the West.

    Silicon Valley as you know it would not exist without cognitive elites from around the world concentrating there. Many other elite fields would suffer as well, from medicine to engineering. Rather than letting them languish in corrupt 3rd world societies, by bringing them here we have allowed them to contribute immensely to the world.

    Please don’t respond “High IQ Natives should be doing the jobs.” They already do, and this isn’t a zero sum game anyways. The strong benefits of skilled immigration are incontrovertible.

    http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/high-skilled-immigrants

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first.

    Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country.

    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Asians are not needed.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

  92. @iffen
    What do you think about IQ?

    I think that you are doing a good job of holding up the left side of the white curve.

    Wittiness from a degenerate? That’s LOL. We do lose some.

    Daniel Chieh: Your male Asian inferiority complex is showing.

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  93. @Myron Gaines
    I don’t know where you live, but you might try living in Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson.

    I actually live in a predominately Black/Latino community, and I understand your concerns. Indeed, the issue of Black integration seems to be intractable, and innate mental differences probably play a large role in that.

    I think the best we can do is offer them federated status within America. It is not justified, charitable, or practical to evict them.

    ---

    “Whiteness,” “Caucasianess,” “fair-skinned,”

    I'm not very interested in aesthetics.

    ---

    They have nothing to offer the West.

    Silicon Valley as you know it would not exist without cognitive elites from around the world concentrating there. Many other elite fields would suffer as well, from medicine to engineering. Rather than letting them languish in corrupt 3rd world societies, by bringing them here we have allowed them to contribute immensely to the world.

    Please don't respond "High IQ Natives should be doing the jobs." They already do, and this isn't a zero sum game anyways. The strong benefits of skilled immigration are incontrovertible.

    http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/high-skilled-immigrants

    Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first.

    Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country.

    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Asians are not needed.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first. Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country."

    Clearly, you have to go back.
    , @Myron Gaines
    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Obviously, you can't do everything by teleworking or telemedicine or whatever. There are level at and situations where it's beneficial, and those where it is maladaptive.

    The market is the best tool to sort out what those are.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

    I'm sorry you feel that way.

    For my part, I see White Nationalism as perfectly legitimate, and would be happy to allow you and like-minded individuals to go your own way and freely associate with whoever you wish.

    Perhaps you can be the ones to communicate with us via "Skype and other technologies." :)
  94. Logan says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Perhaps — gasp! — we shouldn’t have an identity-politics for anyone!
     
    Totally agree.

    The rest of the piece is pure drivel, unfortunately. There's no such thing as 'cultural marxism'. If the word 'marxism' means anything, it's two things: materialism and class struggle. Liberal identity politics is precisely an anti-maxist ploy, designed to split the working class into small warring clans.

    Quite agree that cultural Marxism is pretty much an oxymoron.

    The ideology it describes has just about nothing to do with anything Marx taught. He was all about materialism, control of the means of production and destruction of social classes. He didn’t believe ethnicity should matter at all. Hence, his “Workers of the World, Unite!” slogan.

    There is a parallel, however, between real and cultural Marxism. It’s the notion that an evil dominant force is oppressing everybody else, who should unite to destroy them. For Marx, it was the bourgeoisie, for the SJWs it’s straight white males.

    Once the evil dominators are destroyed, utopia will result.

    Calling this cultural Marxism only makes sense on a line of descent basis. Real Marxism has pretty much died. Nobody really wants to take over and run the means of production. Just about everybody who once was an actual Marxist has become a cultural Marxist.

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    The ideology it describes has just about nothing to do with anything Marx taught. He was all about materialism, control of the means of production and destruction of social classes. He didn’t believe ethnicity should matter at all. Hence, his “Workers of the World, Unite!” slogan.
     
    Correct.

    It’s the notion that an evil dominant force is oppressing everybody else, who should unite to destroy them. For Marx, it was the bourgeoisie, for the SJWs it’s straight white males.

    Once the evil dominators are destroyed, utopia will result.
     
    Nonsense. Marxism doesn't aim to destroy 'bourgeoisie' as individuals, but as a socioeconomic class. Marxists want to change the socioeconomic system. It's a completely different concept.

    Liberals, on the other hand, want to preserve the socioeconomic system. Billionaires and ghettos are fine, as long as all liberal 'identities' are proportionally represented on each socioeconomic level. This is what they preach anyway, but it's had for me to imagine that they really believe it. Stupidity of it is just too obvious. Like I said: they just want to split working people into warring clans and watch them fight each other.
  95. Logan says:
    @Brás Cubas
    "Chile is not perfect. By and large, wages are low here, much lower than in the U.S. The economy is neoliberal and could be described as corporatism-lite. There is a lot of sluggish bureaucracy, for which Chileans have a Spanish word: trámites. There is a lot of distrust within the culture outside one’s own family and personal network. Much of this is justified, for there is a lot of thievery, and people will take advantage of you. But the plusses surely outweigh the negatives. Chile is not at war with anyone, has no designs on its neighbors, and harbors no ambitions of global hegemony. It has a strong military for defensive purposes. Anyone invading Chile would immediately regret it!"

    From your description Chile seems to have the same problems as Brazil, only much attenuated, and most of the advantages, only much magnified. In Brazil, besides thievery of the kind you mentioned, there is also the other kind, the one in which one may wind up with a bullet in one's head. As for "designs on its neighbors", you may be technically right, but it seems one neighbor might have designs on Chile:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_border_dispute

    Bolivia would certainly like to have its outlet to the sea back, but it ain’t gonna happen. Bolivia is a much more dysfunctional country than Chile and doesn’t have any chance at all of waging successful reconquista.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Bolivia has an average IQ of 87. The country has very few whites so nothing can be done for these people.
  96. Logan says:
    @attilathehen
    I'm not Italian or Irish.

    Also, Prince Philip, the Queen's husband is Greek. I've read Greeks are suspect. Interesting "addition" to the royal family.

    Brave Anonymous apparently thinks Irish and Italians aren’t “real whites.” Fair enough. I’ve tried repeatedly to get someone to define who is and is not white, and why. Crickets.

    I can vaguely understand Italians, they often being somewhat swarthy. But if Conan O-Brien and his ilk aren’t white, I can’t imagine who is.

    BTW, Prince Philip is/was a member of the Greek Royal Family. But his ancestry is Danish/German/Russian/English, a result of the days when a newly independent nation would bring in some second son from a second-rank royal house to be its monarch. It’s highly doubtful there’s any actual Greek in him at all.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Good points. The best way to define "whiteness" is by saying what is not white, i.e., blacks (from light to dark skinned) and Asians (Eurasians are in between so that's case by case).

    Irish, Italians and Greeks are white. From what I've seen on the alt-right, no one would say these people are not white. Jews are not white and are a problem. They marry blacks/Asians in high numbers and the Ashkenazi is disappearing. The JQ is solving itself.

    IQ is the biggest indicator. Only people with 90+ IQs are capable of producing and maintaining a modern civilization. Caucasians fall in this category. This means Europe, the USA, Australia, anywhere Caucasians dominate.

    I always give examples. For instance, I mentioned the Japanese. Compare other Asians countries, the Philippines, Thailand, China, Vietnam, etc to Japan. None of these countries equal Japan. And they will never be as successful as Japan.

    In Latin America, white countries like Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay are low crime and function well. Compare Brazil, Puerto Rico (majority black countries) and you see Detroit, Baltimore.

    Mexico is an Indian country. White and high caste Euromestizo Mexicans (20%) control the country. But they don't want to deal with the problems caused by the 80% Indian population so they send them to the USA. Mexico will get its act together when we start building the wall.

    Interesting about Prince Philip. The European monarchs are very mixed.
  97. Logan says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    History offers up important lessons for the Alt Right...

    There is a historic precedent for the Alt Right in US History:look no further than the late 19th-early 2oth Century US Labor Movement...it was racially xenophobic....isolationist...and economically progressive....The late 19th-early 2oth century Labor Movement gave us such wonderfull things such as The Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act and the Sihk Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act....not bad!!!


    And let's honest...The Alt Right kiddie brigade that worships Hitler...Franco...Pinochet....also swims in the sewage of JFK and Ronnie Reagan worship...two scoundrels who unleashed race-replacement immigration policy on The Historic Native Born White American Working Class..

    What Sikh Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act?

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    California had a Sihk Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act in the past...
  98. Logan says:
    @attilathehen
    Jared Taylor is correct about IQ. I believe in IQ and evolution. My Christianity and politics are based on this. Asians copied the West. Asians cannot invent. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The world "Westernizes," it never "Easternizes." Caucasians have the highest IQs, then Asians, last are blacks.

    We now know that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. (Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81.) The ancient Aryans who invaded India mixed with the Asian aborigines. The Aryan part of India was destroyed. (Today the average Indian IQ is 82.)

    The darker skinned a person is, the lower the intelligence. The only Asians with any
    intelligence were the Japanese. My theory is because they were and island nation. Over the
    centuries the less intelligent were culled. This gave the Japaneses an average IQ of 100
    but because they did not have the "zigzag" in the brain, they were unable to develop
    a modern, Western style nation until Matthew Perry overthrew the shogunate and forced them
    to modernize. If this had not happened, Japan would still a rice paddy.

    The Asians in the USA are the "smarter" ones, but they do not belong in the West. There is nothing Asian or Jewish about the West. We have our own people that can do the jobs that need to be done.

    Just curious. Why do you think the natural culling process was more efficient in island Japan than in China and Korea, subject to repeated invasion by outsiders, in addition to the civil wars that plagued Japan?

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    I think it's because Japan is an island. China and Korea are land countries so populations can move around. Even the low IQ want to survive. In Japan, space is limited. We can now see the differences between the Japanese and all other Asians.

    I like to use comparisons for people to visualize.

    Which country is better? RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?

    Which country is better? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    Which country is better? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    Look at country IQs and you will see the differences. You need IQs of 90+ to have civilized,
    functioning countries. Blacks/Asians fall below.
    , @Logan
    You may not have noticed my earlier response.

    Korea and China both have IQs that are essentially the same as those of Japan. So why do you persist in claiming that Japan is unique in Asia in this regard.

    As far as the available data goes, it appears NE Asian peoples are considerably brighter than SE Asian peoples. This may be distorted by the fact that many SE Asian countries have had quite significant Chinese immigration over the centuries, which presumably would bring the average IQ well up above what it would "normally" be. For instance, Malaysia is about 25% identifiable Chinese and presumably somewhat higher by actual blood quanta.

    BTW, average IQ in Singapore is 108. Which ties it with Hong Kong for 1st place. Followed by S. Korea and then Japan, then China.

    https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
  99. @Logan
    What Sikh Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act?

    California had a Sihk Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act in the past…

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  100. Corvinus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Hey, that's clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?

    “Hey, that’s clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?”

    Except cuck is an utterly meaningless term. It’s clearly worn out its welcome.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Cuck is an absolutely meaningful and appropriate term, describes you perfectly.
  101. Corvinus says:
    @attilathehen
    Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first.

    Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country.

    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Asians are not needed.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

    “Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first. Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country.”

    Clearly, you have to go back.

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  102. @attilathehen
    Separating blacks is the most important and needs to be first.

    Next, the Asians will have to go back. We do not need them in our country.

    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Asians are not needed.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Obviously, you can’t do everything by teleworking or telemedicine or whatever. There are level at and situations where it’s beneficial, and those where it is maladaptive.

    The market is the best tool to sort out what those are.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

    I’m sorry you feel that way.

    For my part, I see White Nationalism as perfectly legitimate, and would be happy to allow you and like-minded individuals to go your own way and freely associate with whoever you wish.

    Perhaps you can be the ones to communicate with us via “Skype and other technologies.” :)

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    We are witnessing levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible. This is overall, one of the most hilarious threads I've ever watched on Unz.
  103. @Logan
    Brave Anonymous apparently thinks Irish and Italians aren't "real whites." Fair enough. I've tried repeatedly to get someone to define who is and is not white, and why. Crickets.

    I can vaguely understand Italians, they often being somewhat swarthy. But if Conan O-Brien and his ilk aren't white, I can't imagine who is.

    BTW, Prince Philip is/was a member of the Greek Royal Family. But his ancestry is Danish/German/Russian/English, a result of the days when a newly independent nation would bring in some second son from a second-rank royal house to be its monarch. It's highly doubtful there's any actual Greek in him at all.

    Good points. The best way to define “whiteness” is by saying what is not white, i.e., blacks (from light to dark skinned) and Asians (Eurasians are in between so that’s case by case).

    Irish, Italians and Greeks are white. From what I’ve seen on the alt-right, no one would say these people are not white. Jews are not white and are a problem. They marry blacks/Asians in high numbers and the Ashkenazi is disappearing. The JQ is solving itself.

    IQ is the biggest indicator. Only people with 90+ IQs are capable of producing and maintaining a modern civilization. Caucasians fall in this category. This means Europe, the USA, Australia, anywhere Caucasians dominate.

    I always give examples. For instance, I mentioned the Japanese. Compare other Asians countries, the Philippines, Thailand, China, Vietnam, etc to Japan. None of these countries equal Japan. And they will never be as successful as Japan.

    In Latin America, white countries like Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay are low crime and function well. Compare Brazil, Puerto Rico (majority black countries) and you see Detroit, Baltimore.

    Mexico is an Indian country. White and high caste Euromestizo Mexicans (20%) control the country. But they don’t want to deal with the problems caused by the 80% Indian population so they send them to the USA. Mexico will get its act together when we start building the wall.

    Interesting about Prince Philip. The European monarchs are very mixed.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    South Korea has IQ of 107, vs. 106 for Japan.

    Vietnam is at 94, Philippines at 86, Thailand at 93, Indonesia at 92. China 105.
  104. @Logan
    Bolivia would certainly like to have its outlet to the sea back, but it ain't gonna happen. Bolivia is a much more dysfunctional country than Chile and doesn't have any chance at all of waging successful reconquista.

    Bolivia has an average IQ of 87. The country has very few whites so nothing can be done for these people.

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    • Replies: @Myron Gaines
    This is a terrible attitude. Paul Kagame has worked wonders for Rwanda, whose average IQ is much lower than that.

    Will they create Singapore? Probably not.

    Can they become an orderly, reasonably productive people? Definitely.

  105. @attilathehen
    Jared Taylor is correct about IQ. I believe in IQ and evolution. My Christianity and politics are based on this. Asians copied the West. Asians cannot invent. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The world "Westernizes," it never "Easternizes." Caucasians have the highest IQs, then Asians, last are blacks.

    We now know that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. What destroyed them? Mixing with blacks. (Today the average Egyptian IQ is 81.) The ancient Aryans who invaded India mixed with the Asian aborigines. The Aryan part of India was destroyed. (Today the average Indian IQ is 82.)

    The darker skinned a person is, the lower the intelligence. The only Asians with any
    intelligence were the Japanese. My theory is because they were and island nation. Over the
    centuries the less intelligent were culled. This gave the Japaneses an average IQ of 100
    but because they did not have the "zigzag" in the brain, they were unable to develop
    a modern, Western style nation until Matthew Perry overthrew the shogunate and forced them
    to modernize. If this had not happened, Japan would still a rice paddy.

    The Asians in the USA are the "smarter" ones, but they do not belong in the West. There is nothing Asian or Jewish about the West. We have our own people that can do the jobs that need to be done.

    I don’t care about your Asianphile cuck fantasies…neither does the Native Born White American Working Class….whose Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Sons are being economically drafted by Asianphile and race-replacement enthusiast Donald Trump…as canon fodder into the US Army for Donald’s precious Jew-only-Israel…

    Perhaps you and Donald Trump can inhale a barage of IQ test score psychometrics together and get high over the PISA Scores from Malaysia….

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  106. @attilathehen
    Bolivia has an average IQ of 87. The country has very few whites so nothing can be done for these people.

    This is a terrible attitude. Paul Kagame has worked wonders for Rwanda, whose average IQ is much lower than that.

    Will they create Singapore? Probably not.

    Can they become an orderly, reasonably productive people? Definitely.

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  107. @Myron Gaines
    We can communicate via Skype and other technologies. I used to work in patent law so I am familiar with tech.

    Obviously, you can't do everything by teleworking or telemedicine or whatever. There are level at and situations where it's beneficial, and those where it is maladaptive.

    The market is the best tool to sort out what those are.

    Since you live in a black area, you (and your aesthetics degeneracy) will be culled.

    I'm sorry you feel that way.

    For my part, I see White Nationalism as perfectly legitimate, and would be happy to allow you and like-minded individuals to go your own way and freely associate with whoever you wish.

    Perhaps you can be the ones to communicate with us via "Skype and other technologies." :)

    We are witnessing levels of autism that shouldn’t even be possible. This is overall, one of the most hilarious threads I’ve ever watched on Unz.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    China Chieh, China Chieh, China Chieh. You and Myron can be roomies in Asia or Africa.
    , @Myron Gaines
    Definitely agreed. These guys wax poetic about "High IQ"...I leave it to the audience to judge their IQs compared to ours.

    The sad thing is that I was sympathetic to the Alt Right cause, but these guys make it very difficult for me to continue holding such feelings.

    My advice to any Alt Right dudes: quit the pipe dreams about making America a White ethnostate and "culling" or "cleansing" minorities. Americans, by and large, are fine with today's (mostly Hispanic and Asian) immigrants. Even if they weren't, I doubt anyone has the stomach to throw out people who have been a part of America for years...or generations.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD1-RdSVwAAO1Kf.png

    Perhaps America was a White ethnostate at a time, but that's gone, and it's not coming back. We will either undergo creolization and remain a nation-state, or become a multicultural federation.

    The best, the very best, you can hope for is to be left in peace to build all-White communities. Go for anything further, and you will rally all of America against you, and your cause will be reduced to something about as relevant as monarchism.

  108. @Corvinus
    "Hey, that’s clever! How about this one: cuck and suck?"

    Except cuck is an utterly meaningless term. It's clearly worn out its welcome.

    Cuck is an absolutely meaningful and appropriate term, describes you perfectly.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Cuck is an absolutely meaningful and appropriate term, describes you perfectly."

    No, it merely demonstrates your intellectual sterility.
  109. Skeptikal says:
    @attilathehen
    Good points. His Chilean wife maybe of European descent so there would be no problems with Yates coming back to the USA with his wife. A college friend of my mine had a German American father and a Spanish Chilean mother. They met in Chile, married and came to the USA. No problems with assimilating or IQ deficiencies. His take on Christianity is bizarre. He attends an
    "international church" with all colors. That's a problem. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This article was only to justify marrying his wife. But if she is like my friend's mother, they would have no problems in the USA. A problem is someone like the actor Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman.
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  110. How the heck did White Folks ever survive when there were hardly any Chinese….Hindus….Sihks…Pakistanis….Korean…..in our America?

    ANSWER:very well thank you!!!!….1969….America=90 percent Native Born White American…..1969….90 percent Native Born White America put two Apha Native Born White American Males on the Moon…NASA=99 Percent Native Born White American….Gruman Corp which built the LEM from which two Alpha Native Born White American Males descended from onto the Moon=99 percent Native Born White American Male….1969=Native Born White American Women popping out Native Born White American babies…..

    Who the F would opposed to this?

    Answer:Chinese “Americans”….Korean “Americans”…..Hindu “Americans”…..Sihk “Americans”…..Pakistani “Americans”…

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  111. Skeptikal says:
    @attilathehen
    Good points. His Chilean wife maybe of European descent so there would be no problems with Yates coming back to the USA with his wife. A college friend of my mine had a German American father and a Spanish Chilean mother. They met in Chile, married and came to the USA. No problems with assimilating or IQ deficiencies. His take on Christianity is bizarre. He attends an
    "international church" with all colors. That's a problem. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. This article was only to justify marrying his wife. But if she is like my friend's mother, they would have no problems in the USA. A problem is someone like the actor Matthew McConaughey who married a black Brazilian woman.
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  112. Skeptikal says:

    I enjoyed the journey (most of it), and learned quite a lot that is useful about the genesis of the alt-right, but I think the journey led to the wrong destination.

    I jumped off the train where Yates informed me that my small SS check is a form of dependency.
    Well, it is a pension. I have been working all of my life. For myself.
    Does Yates really think that I should demonstrate my “independence” by working until the day I croak?

    Sir, do tell us about your own finances, and your wife’s.
    And the health insurance you and your wife enjoy.

    I read this about health care in Chile:
    ” Chile boasts one of the most advanced healthcare systems in South America; with facilities to rival those in the USA and Europe. Both the public and private sectors provide quality care, although the standard is generally higher in the country’s private hospitals and clinics. Fortunately, compared with other countries the cost of private medical treatment is relatively low.”

    I expect that Professor Yates is covered by his wife’s Chilean policy.

    There were many interesting points in the history-0f-ideas part of the essay.
    But when Yates turned his gaze to his own navel in Chile, it lost relevance for me.

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  113. @Myron Gaines
    This is a terrible attitude. Paul Kagame has worked wonders for Rwanda, whose average IQ is much lower than that.

    Will they create Singapore? Probably not.

    Can they become an orderly, reasonably productive people? Definitely.

    You can be a pioneer in the Congo.

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  114. @Logan
    Just curious. Why do you think the natural culling process was more efficient in island Japan than in China and Korea, subject to repeated invasion by outsiders, in addition to the civil wars that plagued Japan?

    I think it’s because Japan is an island. China and Korea are land countries so populations can move around. Even the low IQ want to survive. In Japan, space is limited. We can now see the differences between the Japanese and all other Asians.

    I like to use comparisons for people to visualize.

    Which country is better? RCC Philippines or Shinto/Budhhist Japan?

    Which country is better? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA?

    Which country is better? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland?

    Look at country IQs and you will see the differences. You need IQs of 90+ to have civilized,
    functioning countries. Blacks/Asians fall below.

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  115. @Daniel Chieh
    We are witnessing levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible. This is overall, one of the most hilarious threads I've ever watched on Unz.

    China Chieh, China Chieh, China Chieh. You and Myron can be roomies in Asia or Africa.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    You've truly demonstrated high IQ posting, as well as a mastery of technology invoked through “Skype and other technologies.” :)

    Incidentally was it is for the "Jewish" ICQ through which would eventually inspire Skype much later on and you would be likely still using a cathode ray monitor wouldn't exist if it wasn't for those low IQ Asians that invented blue LEDs, which was the predecessor of other LEDs. Indeed, without the Chinese, your smartphone would likely be completely out of the range of affordability.

    But keep up, you are indeed demonstrating the unique gift of unintentional humor for us all.

  116. Well, this convaluted and bizzarely irrational conspuracy theory is sure to catch on and lead the alt right to a thousand-year ascendancy. I’m just gonna surrender right now.

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  117. Logan says:
    @attilathehen
    Good points. The best way to define "whiteness" is by saying what is not white, i.e., blacks (from light to dark skinned) and Asians (Eurasians are in between so that's case by case).

    Irish, Italians and Greeks are white. From what I've seen on the alt-right, no one would say these people are not white. Jews are not white and are a problem. They marry blacks/Asians in high numbers and the Ashkenazi is disappearing. The JQ is solving itself.

    IQ is the biggest indicator. Only people with 90+ IQs are capable of producing and maintaining a modern civilization. Caucasians fall in this category. This means Europe, the USA, Australia, anywhere Caucasians dominate.

    I always give examples. For instance, I mentioned the Japanese. Compare other Asians countries, the Philippines, Thailand, China, Vietnam, etc to Japan. None of these countries equal Japan. And they will never be as successful as Japan.

    In Latin America, white countries like Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay are low crime and function well. Compare Brazil, Puerto Rico (majority black countries) and you see Detroit, Baltimore.

    Mexico is an Indian country. White and high caste Euromestizo Mexicans (20%) control the country. But they don't want to deal with the problems caused by the 80% Indian population so they send them to the USA. Mexico will get its act together when we start building the wall.

    Interesting about Prince Philip. The European monarchs are very mixed.

    South Korea has IQ of 107, vs. 106 for Japan.

    Vietnam is at 94, Philippines at 86, Thailand at 93, Indonesia at 92. China 105.

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  118. @attilathehen
    China Chieh, China Chieh, China Chieh. You and Myron can be roomies in Asia or Africa.

    You’ve truly demonstrated high IQ posting, as well as a mastery of technology invoked through “Skype and other technologies.” :)

    Incidentally was it is for the “Jewish” ICQ through which would eventually inspire Skype much later on and you would be likely still using a cathode ray monitor wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for those low IQ Asians that invented blue LEDs, which was the predecessor of other LEDs. Indeed, without the Chinese, your smartphone would likely be completely out of the range of affordability.

    But keep up, you are indeed demonstrating the unique gift of unintentional humor for us all.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    If it wasn't for Isaac Newton, Guglielmo Marconi, Philo Farnsworth, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Alan Turing...notice a non-Jewish, non-Asian pattern here? The bits you mentioned were add-ons
    to original inventions created by Westerners.

    You have a limited Asian view of history. The Chinese/Jews contributed nothing in the creation of the West.

    I know it's hard for you to think abstractly and transcendtly. Asians cannot thing abstractly and their "souls" are of an inferior quality - they contain no "Faustian energy." Or the "zigzag in the brain" that Asians have attributed to Caucasians.

    You only know a little 21st century history. The West is over 2000 years old. I know China's older, but again the world Westernized, it did not Ching-chongize.

    Oh, and the Japanese are superior to the Chinese. They modernized and Westernized a long time ago.
    China has not. The Japanese are inferior to Caucasians, but way better than your kind.

  119. Lagertha says:

    the Conclusion was such a dud…so awful. As a granddaughter of not just against the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, I can say that, today, we need more heroic men (and women…meh). We need honest men and women today…which, sadly, do not exist today. Honesty, Pride, Chivalry, Courage is gone today. Our young people (not my sons) are losers…and confused over PC. Millennials need to get it together to fight the Democrats…all of them….Democrats, Lefties, Bolsheviks, Reds, Liberals….it was all the enemy for my grandpa. He hated all of them to his death…because, mainly, they had “nothing” – they had not created, employed, provided, inspired anything in their lifetime.

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  120. @Daniel Chieh
    We are witnessing levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible. This is overall, one of the most hilarious threads I've ever watched on Unz.

    Definitely agreed. These guys wax poetic about “High IQ”…I leave it to the audience to judge their IQs compared to ours.

    The sad thing is that I was sympathetic to the Alt Right cause, but these guys make it very difficult for me to continue holding such feelings.

    My advice to any Alt Right dudes: quit the pipe dreams about making America a White ethnostate and “culling” or “cleansing” minorities. Americans, by and large, are fine with today’s (mostly Hispanic and Asian) immigrants. Even if they weren’t, I doubt anyone has the stomach to throw out people who have been a part of America for years…or generations.

    Perhaps America was a White ethnostate at a time, but that’s gone, and it’s not coming back. We will either undergo creolization and remain a nation-state, or become a multicultural federation.

    The best, the very best, you can hope for is to be left in peace to build all-White communities. Go for anything further, and you will rally all of America against you, and your cause will be reduced to something about as relevant as monarchism.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    "I doubt anyone has the stomach to throw out people who have been a part of America for years…or generations."

    The ancestors of the average black person have been here considerably longer than those of the average white person, with most Africans brought here before the Revolution.. For instance, those from one side of my family arrived after or just before the Civil War.
  121. Logan says:
    @Logan
    Just curious. Why do you think the natural culling process was more efficient in island Japan than in China and Korea, subject to repeated invasion by outsiders, in addition to the civil wars that plagued Japan?

    You may not have noticed my earlier response.

    Korea and China both have IQs that are essentially the same as those of Japan. So why do you persist in claiming that Japan is unique in Asia in this regard.

    As far as the available data goes, it appears NE Asian peoples are considerably brighter than SE Asian peoples. This may be distorted by the fact that many SE Asian countries have had quite significant Chinese immigration over the centuries, which presumably would bring the average IQ well up above what it would “normally” be. For instance, Malaysia is about 25% identifiable Chinese and presumably somewhat higher by actual blood quanta.

    BTW, average IQ in Singapore is 108. Which ties it with Hong Kong for 1st place. Followed by S. Korea and then Japan, then China.

    https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

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  122. Logan says:
    @Myron Gaines
    Definitely agreed. These guys wax poetic about "High IQ"...I leave it to the audience to judge their IQs compared to ours.

    The sad thing is that I was sympathetic to the Alt Right cause, but these guys make it very difficult for me to continue holding such feelings.

    My advice to any Alt Right dudes: quit the pipe dreams about making America a White ethnostate and "culling" or "cleansing" minorities. Americans, by and large, are fine with today's (mostly Hispanic and Asian) immigrants. Even if they weren't, I doubt anyone has the stomach to throw out people who have been a part of America for years...or generations.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD1-RdSVwAAO1Kf.png

    Perhaps America was a White ethnostate at a time, but that's gone, and it's not coming back. We will either undergo creolization and remain a nation-state, or become a multicultural federation.

    The best, the very best, you can hope for is to be left in peace to build all-White communities. Go for anything further, and you will rally all of America against you, and your cause will be reduced to something about as relevant as monarchism.

    “I doubt anyone has the stomach to throw out people who have been a part of America for years…or generations.”

    The ancestors of the average black person have been here considerably longer than those of the average white person, with most Africans brought here before the Revolution.. For instance, those from one side of my family arrived after or just before the Civil War.

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  123. @Logan
    Quite agree that cultural Marxism is pretty much an oxymoron.

    The ideology it describes has just about nothing to do with anything Marx taught. He was all about materialism, control of the means of production and destruction of social classes. He didn't believe ethnicity should matter at all. Hence, his "Workers of the World, Unite!" slogan.

    There is a parallel, however, between real and cultural Marxism. It's the notion that an evil dominant force is oppressing everybody else, who should unite to destroy them. For Marx, it was the bourgeoisie, for the SJWs it's straight white males.

    Once the evil dominators are destroyed, utopia will result.

    Calling this cultural Marxism only makes sense on a line of descent basis. Real Marxism has pretty much died. Nobody really wants to take over and run the means of production. Just about everybody who once was an actual Marxist has become a cultural Marxist.

    The ideology it describes has just about nothing to do with anything Marx taught. He was all about materialism, control of the means of production and destruction of social classes. He didn’t believe ethnicity should matter at all. Hence, his “Workers of the World, Unite!” slogan.

    Correct.

    It’s the notion that an evil dominant force is oppressing everybody else, who should unite to destroy them. For Marx, it was the bourgeoisie, for the SJWs it’s straight white males.

    Once the evil dominators are destroyed, utopia will result.

    Nonsense. Marxism doesn’t aim to destroy ‘bourgeoisie’ as individuals, but as a socioeconomic class. Marxists want to change the socioeconomic system. It’s a completely different concept.

    Liberals, on the other hand, want to preserve the socioeconomic system. Billionaires and ghettos are fine, as long as all liberal ‘identities’ are proportionally represented on each socioeconomic level. This is what they preach anyway, but it’s had for me to imagine that they really believe it. Stupidity of it is just too obvious. Like I said: they just want to split working people into warring clans and watch them fight each other.

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  124. lavoisier says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    That's a lot of verbiage to end up saying can't we all just get along, like me and my Chilean wife in this country where I'll always be a foreigner and second-class citizen going to my Sunday morning-book club with all the other foreigners?

    Not sustainable and, predictably, no mention of children.

    And residing in Chile, Mr. Yates is about as far removed from two troubling demographics as one can be: Africans and Muslims. Not that Chile doesn't have its own demographic trough with an average national IQ well below the Anglo mean; all the petty thievery and low-trust interactions may start to wear on the author eventually.

    People don't just want to live, they want to prosper, and they want their children to succeed and prosper and have children in their turn. Libertarians continue back-flipping around uncomfortable questions.

    Libertarians are nothing more than religious fundamentalists substituting the “free market” for God.

    Hence their inability to think rationally about any issue that challenges their dogmatic faith in the ultimate wisdom of the “free market.” It is a simplistic dogma that renders their adherents, like any faith based worldview, incapble of thinking clearly about any number of issues.

    And predictably, their support for the ruling orthodoxy destroying Western Civilization– open borders.

    Libertarians are incapable of defending Western Civilization. They want to preserve markets, not people and their cultures.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Many, yes, sadly. But not all. Rothbard's and Hoppe's work is quite compatible with a properly understood conservatism and regard for human nature, indeed requires such a synergy. Not surprisingly both men are demonized by mainstream libertarians.
    , @Myron Gaines
    Well, yes. Free markets are the best tool for creating prosperity the world has ever known, of course we want to preserve them.

    Immigration is more interesting. Obviously, economists broadly agree about the benefits of high skill immigration. Low skill immigration is more controversial, and presents more challenges and negative cultural externalities.

    For some people, race is foundational, and they would reject even high skill foreigners, despite the benefits they bring. Fair enough, that's their prerogative. They should be allowed to make that decision for their communities.

    For most people, race matters to a degree, but is NOT foundational. They would be fine with diversity and immigration from various places, until it becomes maladaptive. What's going on in Europe is obviously maladaptive.

    Both are valid ways to build societies, and I would favor communities being given the choice.

  125. @lavoisier
    Libertarians are nothing more than religious fundamentalists substituting the "free market" for God.

    Hence their inability to think rationally about any issue that challenges their dogmatic faith in the ultimate wisdom of the "free market." It is a simplistic dogma that renders their adherents, like any faith based worldview, incapble of thinking clearly about any number of issues.

    And predictably, their support for the ruling orthodoxy destroying Western Civilization-- open borders.

    Libertarians are incapable of defending Western Civilization. They want to preserve markets, not people and their cultures.

    Many, yes, sadly. But not all. Rothbard’s and Hoppe’s work is quite compatible with a properly understood conservatism and regard for human nature, indeed requires such a synergy. Not surprisingly both men are demonized by mainstream libertarians.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    Yep, agree 100%. Hoppe has written explicitly that a free market philosophy within a nation-state is compatible with strict immigration requirements and good border enforcement.

    The WSJ-Cato Institute libertarianism that's straw-manned here is more utilitarian than dogmatic. Cato is looking for patronage, the WSJ is looking to maintain good will among its corporate readers and advertisers.
  126. Sam J. says:

    “…what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea…”

    I read the first portion and the conclusion of this tome but realize that the only pertinent point is what I enclosed above. I saw where it was going. He’s giving us Whites the same old refrain. White people should back off and be the “bigger” person to set and example to others. Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into “identity” politics then we need to be too. This is the same thing the press is doing to Trump. Attacking him for months then somehow believing that he’s doing something wrong and not quite moral if he attacks them back.

    I think Whites should move heaven and Earth to separate ourselves from all the other races. End all legal impairments against us doing so and let them fend for themselves.

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    Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into “identity” politics then we need to be too.
     
    I completely agree with that. The one problem is that so many of my fellow Whites are people I would rather not be associated with.

    My interests simply do not align with those of the SJWs, Baby Boomers, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Washington, etc. Even if there were no immigrants and no blacks in America whatsoever, these people, all else being equal, would still be destroying my life

    So it isn't just a White identity politics that's needed. It's a ruling cabal of elite Whites whose strongest asset will be their ability to impose their will on other Whites. We need our own Joseph Stalin.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    Actually, I do think that is to some extent, what he supports as well with complete freedom of association and choice. And thought I am not white, I don't see any reason to be against that. People should not be coerced into being with others they don't want to associate with. Its ridiculous.
  127. JackOH says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Many, yes, sadly. But not all. Rothbard's and Hoppe's work is quite compatible with a properly understood conservatism and regard for human nature, indeed requires such a synergy. Not surprisingly both men are demonized by mainstream libertarians.

    Yep, agree 100%. Hoppe has written explicitly that a free market philosophy within a nation-state is compatible with strict immigration requirements and good border enforcement.

    The WSJ-Cato Institute libertarianism that’s straw-manned here is more utilitarian than dogmatic. Cato is looking for patronage, the WSJ is looking to maintain good will among its corporate readers and advertisers.

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  128. @Sam J.
    "...what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea..."

    I read the first portion and the conclusion of this tome but realize that the only pertinent point is what I enclosed above. I saw where it was going. He's giving us Whites the same old refrain. White people should back off and be the "bigger" person to set and example to others. Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into "identity" politics then we need to be too. This is the same thing the press is doing to Trump. Attacking him for months then somehow believing that he's doing something wrong and not quite moral if he attacks them back.

    I think Whites should move heaven and Earth to separate ourselves from all the other races. End all legal impairments against us doing so and let them fend for themselves.

    Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into “identity” politics then we need to be too.

    I completely agree with that. The one problem is that so many of my fellow Whites are people I would rather not be associated with.

    My interests simply do not align with those of the SJWs, Baby Boomers, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Washington, etc. Even if there were no immigrants and no blacks in America whatsoever, these people, all else being equal, would still be destroying my life

    So it isn’t just a White identity politics that’s needed. It’s a ruling cabal of elite Whites whose strongest asset will be their ability to impose their will on other Whites. We need our own Joseph Stalin.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    We need our own Joseph Stalin.

    Why would you pussy-foot around with a multi-culturist Marxist type? Hell, he wasn't even Russian.

    We need a man like AH. Now there's somebody who took charge and saved a great country in Europe. Oh wait! Not only was there death and devastation in WWII Germany, the replacement regime is fast replacing actual Germans with other peoples. Maybe he wasn't that great for Germany after all.
  129. @Sam J.
    "...what is wrong with the alt-right is that it wants an identity politics for white people (straight white males, perhaps) instead of asking whether identity politics itself is a good idea..."

    I read the first portion and the conclusion of this tome but realize that the only pertinent point is what I enclosed above. I saw where it was going. He's giving us Whites the same old refrain. White people should back off and be the "bigger" person to set and example to others. Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into "identity" politics then we need to be too. This is the same thing the press is doing to Trump. Attacking him for months then somehow believing that he's doing something wrong and not quite moral if he attacks them back.

    I think Whites should move heaven and Earth to separate ourselves from all the other races. End all legal impairments against us doing so and let them fend for themselves.

    Actually, I do think that is to some extent, what he supports as well with complete freedom of association and choice. And thought I am not white, I don’t see any reason to be against that. People should not be coerced into being with others they don’t want to associate with. Its ridiculous.

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  130. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava
    Dear Ron,

    Sincere thanks, it seems to be OK now. Although continuing until this evening, probably just because I forgot my phone this morning.

    The warning was on any page, but is not appearing now.

    Regards, thx again.

    It’s back again now, same warning. Every post of the few tonight. I do think it is to do with the shift to https, also perhaps that Opera does not paying attention.

    My expertise is at the lower level, chips and programs, basic tech.

    I don’t have root access to my stupidphone, it is pointless, but have process monitoring and file-system monitoring tools, no sign of an invasion.

    In any case, it is not a big deal, Opera was popular here at one time, not now, I suppose I am one of a tiny minority for Japanese ‘net users to use it now, so it is not the big problem, but it is irritation!

    May still be a problem with site settings on your site’s side.

    Regards.

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  131. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava
    Dear Ron,

    Sincere thanks, it seems to be OK now. Although continuing until this evening, probably just because I forgot my phone this morning.

    The warning was on any page, but is not appearing now.

    Regards, thx again.

    The same again. I was accidentally replying to myself on post 138 on this thread, it was intended for you, please read it. I strongly suspect that Japanese Opera browser’s diagnosis is correct, it says there are two possibilities:a ‘man in the middle’ attack, or incorrect settings related to the https cert. on your good site.

    Regards.

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    The certificate is fine, issued by GoDaddy.com to unz.com, begins 06/28/2017, expires 06/28/2020.
  132. iffen says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Well to hell with that. If everyone else is into “identity” politics then we need to be too.
     
    I completely agree with that. The one problem is that so many of my fellow Whites are people I would rather not be associated with.

    My interests simply do not align with those of the SJWs, Baby Boomers, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, Washington, etc. Even if there were no immigrants and no blacks in America whatsoever, these people, all else being equal, would still be destroying my life

    So it isn't just a White identity politics that's needed. It's a ruling cabal of elite Whites whose strongest asset will be their ability to impose their will on other Whites. We need our own Joseph Stalin.

    We need our own Joseph Stalin.

    Why would you pussy-foot around with a multi-culturist Marxist type? Hell, he wasn’t even Russian.

    We need a man like AH. Now there’s somebody who took charge and saved a great country in Europe. Oh wait! Not only was there death and devastation in WWII Germany, the replacement regime is fast replacing actual Germans with other peoples. Maybe he wasn’t that great for Germany after all.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Well, Stalin wasn't Russian, but he did save Russia from Bronstein. Speaking of whom, it may be his tribal descendants who have more to do with engineering Europe's demographic catastrophe than Hitler's (or any other ethnic German), no?
  133. @lavoisier
    Libertarians are nothing more than religious fundamentalists substituting the "free market" for God.

    Hence their inability to think rationally about any issue that challenges their dogmatic faith in the ultimate wisdom of the "free market." It is a simplistic dogma that renders their adherents, like any faith based worldview, incapble of thinking clearly about any number of issues.

    And predictably, their support for the ruling orthodoxy destroying Western Civilization-- open borders.

    Libertarians are incapable of defending Western Civilization. They want to preserve markets, not people and their cultures.

    Well, yes. Free markets are the best tool for creating prosperity the world has ever known, of course we want to preserve them.

    Immigration is more interesting. Obviously, economists broadly agree about the benefits of high skill immigration. Low skill immigration is more controversial, and presents more challenges and negative cultural externalities.

    For some people, race is foundational, and they would reject even high skill foreigners, despite the benefits they bring. Fair enough, that’s their prerogative. They should be allowed to make that decision for their communities.

    For most people, race matters to a degree, but is NOT foundational. They would be fine with diversity and immigration from various places, until it becomes maladaptive. What’s going on in Europe is obviously maladaptive.

    Both are valid ways to build societies, and I would favor communities being given the choice.

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  134. @Che Guava
    The same again. I was accidentally replying to myself on post 138 on this thread, it was intended for you, please read it. I strongly suspect that Japanese Opera browser's diagnosis is correct, it says there are two possibilities:a 'man in the middle' attack, or incorrect settings related to the https cert. on your good site.

    Regards.

    The certificate is fine, issued by GoDaddy.com to unz.com, begins 06/28/2017, expires 06/28/2020.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Thanks, should have been confirming that myself, but so annoyed by the warning screens. Also, did not thinking that was real.

    Definitely related to the switch to https, but nobody else is seeming to get the same effect, so also browser.
  135. @iffen
    We need our own Joseph Stalin.

    Why would you pussy-foot around with a multi-culturist Marxist type? Hell, he wasn't even Russian.

    We need a man like AH. Now there's somebody who took charge and saved a great country in Europe. Oh wait! Not only was there death and devastation in WWII Germany, the replacement regime is fast replacing actual Germans with other peoples. Maybe he wasn't that great for Germany after all.

    Well, Stalin wasn’t Russian, but he did save Russia from Bronstein. Speaking of whom, it may be his tribal descendants who have more to do with engineering Europe’s demographic catastrophe than Hitler’s (or any other ethnic German), no?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    but he did save Russia from Bronstein

    I assume that you mean he saved Russia from dem Jews.

    If we play "what if", we could surmise that had Russian communists taken the world revolution and permanent revolution path, communism would have expired decades earlier. We might have been spared WWII in the form that it took.

    Or did you mean that Stalin did a better job at taking care of dem Jews than did AH?

  136. iffen says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Well, Stalin wasn't Russian, but he did save Russia from Bronstein. Speaking of whom, it may be his tribal descendants who have more to do with engineering Europe's demographic catastrophe than Hitler's (or any other ethnic German), no?

    but he did save Russia from Bronstein

    I assume that you mean he saved Russia from dem Jews.

    If we play “what if”, we could surmise that had Russian communists taken the world revolution and permanent revolution path, communism would have expired decades earlier. We might have been spared WWII in the form that it took.

    Or did you mean that Stalin did a better job at taking care of dem Jews than did AH?

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Obviously you are hopeless, but I do like to think there are Jews who are concerned about representatives like this:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsJYGoRHA-U
  137. @Daniel Chieh
    You've truly demonstrated high IQ posting, as well as a mastery of technology invoked through “Skype and other technologies.” :)

    Incidentally was it is for the "Jewish" ICQ through which would eventually inspire Skype much later on and you would be likely still using a cathode ray monitor wouldn't exist if it wasn't for those low IQ Asians that invented blue LEDs, which was the predecessor of other LEDs. Indeed, without the Chinese, your smartphone would likely be completely out of the range of affordability.

    But keep up, you are indeed demonstrating the unique gift of unintentional humor for us all.

    If it wasn’t for Isaac Newton, Guglielmo Marconi, Philo Farnsworth, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Alan Turing…notice a non-Jewish, non-Asian pattern here? The bits you mentioned were add-ons
    to original inventions created by Westerners.

    You have a limited Asian view of history. The Chinese/Jews contributed nothing in the creation of the West.

    I know it’s hard for you to think abstractly and transcendtly. Asians cannot thing abstractly and their “souls” are of an inferior quality – they contain no “Faustian energy.” Or the “zigzag in the brain” that Asians have attributed to Caucasians.

    You only know a little 21st century history. The West is over 2000 years old. I know China’s older, but again the world Westernized, it did not Ching-chongize.

    Oh, and the Japanese are superior to the Chinese. They modernized and Westernized a long time ago.
    China has not. The Japanese are inferior to Caucasians, but way better than your kind.

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    You don't seem to be very familiar with Western history despite being an avowed proponent.

    From the "long term", I'm sure Europe would have developed exactly the same without the stirrup, gunpowder and paper. Standardized testing, too, as part of meritocracy is an excellent example of a Sinic cultural artifact that was introduced to the West, specifically by the British colonial administration that had admired it in China(and previously had been admired by Voltaire, who was profoundly Sinophilic). Heck, Joseph II, the Holy Roman Emperor dutifully took notes from the Jesuits on China and implemented in his kingdom; he is considered one of the three great Enlightenment monarchs.

    But we could dismiss all of that!

    The Jewish contribution to Europe, if you wish to isolate to only one? Christianity.

    To say that Christianity contributed nothing to the West, indeed, that it did not fundamentally impart its entire characteristic of what we consider European is enormously silly. It is likely without the Catholic notion of finding God through Reason, that the very notion of the scientific method would not have been discovered, including the scientists mentioned.
  138. I am not convinced that the roots of the Left have anything to do with theory. Rather, the theory was invented to justify what people have always wanted, which expresses an inner weakness and fear of life itself. They do not want to lose, in a Darwinian sense, and instead use social pressure to remove the possibility of Darwinistic loss by demanding equality of status so that they are included by automatic, uniform and non-judgmental process regardless of how badly their acts end up (Darwinistic loss) or their previous history, lack of ability, low moral character and so on.

    The Alt Right reverses this process by getting away from the Enlightenment-era focus on the individual, and instead looking toward results in reality through the wide-angle lens of history on the ten thousand year scale.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I am not convinced that the roots of the Left have anything to do with theory. Rather, the theory was invented to justify what people have always wanted, which expresses an inner weakness and fear of life itself."

    Leftist, just like the Alt Right, is predicated on theory, an invention to justify what people believe how things ought to operate. Indeed, there is weakness and fear, but it is of the opposing ideology and what it all entails.

    "They do not want to lose, in a Darwinian sense, and instead use social pressure to remove the possibility of Darwinistic loss by demanding equality of status so that they are included by automatic, uniform and non-judgmental process regardless of how badly their acts end up (Darwinistic loss) or their previous history, lack of ability, low moral character and so on."

    The problem with Southrons like yourself is that you had gamed the system by negating equality of status, in particular those fine southern gentlemen and ladies who sought to exercise their liberty to associate with non-whites for business and for pleasure.

    "The Alt Right reverses this process by getting away from the Enlightenment-era focus on the individual, and instead looking toward results in reality through the wide-angle lens of history on the ten thousand year scale."

    Americans and Westerners generally prefer to focus on the individual, and to be able to use reason to make decisions in their best interests, as well as for society. What you are desperately trying to do is control the narrative and put forth a plan of action that is Fascist in nature. We, The People, say "No thank you".

    Consider what you had said about two months ago "While I detest democracy in all forms — even a group of people choosing what is for lunch — it would be interesting to imagine future voting booths with brain scans that only allowed entrance for those with high IQ, sincerity and honesty..."

    First, that is absolutely insane for you to "detest" people from forming groups and choosing for themselves what they want to eat. Second, it would be other than interesting for voting booths to have this technology. People like yourself who think in this manner are consumed with raw power. Again, We The People say "No thank you".

  139. @iffen
    but he did save Russia from Bronstein

    I assume that you mean he saved Russia from dem Jews.

    If we play "what if", we could surmise that had Russian communists taken the world revolution and permanent revolution path, communism would have expired decades earlier. We might have been spared WWII in the form that it took.

    Or did you mean that Stalin did a better job at taking care of dem Jews than did AH?

    Obviously you are hopeless, but I do like to think there are Jews who are concerned about representatives like this:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsJYGoRHA-U

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  140. Che Guava says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji
    The certificate is fine, issued by GoDaddy.com to unz.com, begins 06/28/2017, expires 06/28/2020.

    Thanks, should have been confirming that myself, but so annoyed by the warning screens. Also, did not thinking that was real.

    Definitely related to the switch to https, but nobody else is seeming to get the same effect, so also browser.

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    You can troubleshoot; google opera certificate warning and read some (recent, preferably) threads.
  141. @attilathehen
    If it wasn't for Isaac Newton, Guglielmo Marconi, Philo Farnsworth, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Alan Turing...notice a non-Jewish, non-Asian pattern here? The bits you mentioned were add-ons
    to original inventions created by Westerners.

    You have a limited Asian view of history. The Chinese/Jews contributed nothing in the creation of the West.

    I know it's hard for you to think abstractly and transcendtly. Asians cannot thing abstractly and their "souls" are of an inferior quality - they contain no "Faustian energy." Or the "zigzag in the brain" that Asians have attributed to Caucasians.

    You only know a little 21st century history. The West is over 2000 years old. I know China's older, but again the world Westernized, it did not Ching-chongize.

    Oh, and the Japanese are superior to the Chinese. They modernized and Westernized a long time ago.
    China has not. The Japanese are inferior to Caucasians, but way better than your kind.

    You don’t seem to be very familiar with Western history despite being an avowed proponent.

    From the “long term”, I’m sure Europe would have developed exactly the same without the stirrup, gunpowder and paper. Standardized testing, too, as part of meritocracy is an excellent example of a Sinic cultural artifact that was introduced to the West, specifically by the British colonial administration that had admired it in China(and previously had been admired by Voltaire, who was profoundly Sinophilic). Heck, Joseph II, the Holy Roman Emperor dutifully took notes from the Jesuits on China and implemented in his kingdom; he is considered one of the three great Enlightenment monarchs.

    But we could dismiss all of that!

    The Jewish contribution to Europe, if you wish to isolate to only one? Christianity.

    To say that Christianity contributed nothing to the West, indeed, that it did not fundamentally impart its entire characteristic of what we consider European is enormously silly. It is likely without the Catholic notion of finding God through Reason, that the very notion of the scientific method would not have been discovered, including the scientists mentioned.

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  142. The Assyrians had a primitive stirrup in 700 B.C. Any people (blacks/Asians too) would have invented and improved upon this.

    Paper – we had papyrus, we would have gone the next step.

    Gun powder – men of all races have been inventing weapons of all kinds since the beginning of time.

    Standardized testing – you mention Voltaire. He was born in 1694 and died in the 18th century. The West had come up with a lot of stuff by then – without “standardized testing.”

    Christianity – Jesus came to do away with the Old Testament Mosaic law and ended God’s covenant with the Jews. Also, He was not all Jewish. Today’s Jews are not the same Jews of the Old Testament and Jesus’ time. Todays “Jews” follow the Talmud and the rabbis. They are just continuing the degeneracy of the Old Testament that Jesus came to end. They “believe” they are the “chosen.” “They” are not. Present day Jewish practice is not compatible with Christianity. Christianity does not work for blacks/Asians. Christianity is for the West and its peoples. If blacks/Asians want to be Christians, they must have their own churches. I’m a cradle Catholic. I know my catechism and church history. But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences). Blacks/Asians could never have come up with the reason and scientific methods the West came up with. Also, Jesus did not want the Apostles to go to Asia. He sent them to Europe.

    Acts 16: 6-10: Paul and his companions traveled throughout the region of Phrygiaz and Galatia,a having been kept by the Holy Spirit from preaching the word in the province of Asia. 7 When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to.

    The West is best. Deus Vult.

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    The Assyrian stirrup, like Chinese replaceable parts and Harappan flush toilets, were an one-off effort that failed to spread. That's a great way to go into wewouldbekangz.

    Yes, and the New World would have developed the wheel. Its one thing to argue that the West is pretty awesome, which I don't see any objection to; its hilarious to believe that the West developed completely without outside influence because "we would have figured it out."

    But what clinches it is the sheer lack of awareness of Jesus' ministry to the Jewish, and no matter what, Christianity owes a fundamental structure from Jewish tradition. The Gentiles only came later:

    Per Matthew 15:22-24..

    These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
     
    But at the end of his life...


    And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

     

    So, in your list of accomplishments, you've managed to promote IQ without understanding, praise Western civilization while being fundamentally unread about it, and claim understanding of Catholicism while being a self-proclaimed heretic in every way.

    Truly, truly, well done. The gleaming example of Western prowess.

    I have a lot of respect for White Nationalists and have mentioned I don't mind Going Back. I don't have any respect for sophistry, though at this point, I have to wonder if you're a troll trying to make a strawman out of WN.
  143. @Che Guava
    Thanks, should have been confirming that myself, but so annoyed by the warning screens. Also, did not thinking that was real.

    Definitely related to the switch to https, but nobody else is seeming to get the same effect, so also browser.

    You can troubleshoot; google opera certificate warning and read some (recent, preferably) threads.

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  144. @attilathehen
    The Assyrians had a primitive stirrup in 700 B.C. Any people (blacks/Asians too) would have invented and improved upon this.

    Paper - we had papyrus, we would have gone the next step.

    Gun powder - men of all races have been inventing weapons of all kinds since the beginning of time.

    Standardized testing - you mention Voltaire. He was born in 1694 and died in the 18th century. The West had come up with a lot of stuff by then - without "standardized testing."

    Christianity - Jesus came to do away with the Old Testament Mosaic law and ended God's covenant with the Jews. Also, He was not all Jewish. Today's Jews are not the same Jews of the Old Testament and Jesus' time. Todays "Jews" follow the Talmud and the rabbis. They are just continuing the degeneracy of the Old Testament that Jesus came to end. They "believe" they are the "chosen." "They" are not. Present day Jewish practice is not compatible with Christianity. Christianity does not work for blacks/Asians. Christianity is for the West and its peoples. If blacks/Asians want to be Christians, they must have their own churches. I'm a cradle Catholic. I know my catechism and church history. But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences). Blacks/Asians could never have come up with the reason and scientific methods the West came up with. Also, Jesus did not want the Apostles to go to Asia. He sent them to Europe.

    Acts 16: 6-10: Paul and his companions traveled throughout the region of Phrygiaz and Galatia,a having been kept by the Holy Spirit from preaching the word in the province of Asia. 7 When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to.

    The West is best. Deus Vult.

    The Assyrian stirrup, like Chinese replaceable parts and Harappan flush toilets, were an one-off effort that failed to spread. That’s a great way to go into wewouldbekangz.

    Yes, and the New World would have developed the wheel. Its one thing to argue that the West is pretty awesome, which I don’t see any objection to; its hilarious to believe that the West developed completely without outside influence because “we would have figured it out.”

    But what clinches it is the sheer lack of awareness of Jesus’ ministry to the Jewish, and no matter what, Christianity owes a fundamental structure from Jewish tradition. The Gentiles only came later:

    Per Matthew 15:22-24..

    These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

    But at the end of his life…

    And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

    So, in your list of accomplishments, you’ve managed to promote IQ without understanding, praise Western civilization while being fundamentally unread about it, and claim understanding of Catholicism while being a self-proclaimed heretic in every way.

    Truly, truly, well done. The gleaming example of Western prowess.

    I have a lot of respect for White Nationalists and have mentioned I don’t mind Going Back. I don’t have any respect for sophistry, though at this point, I have to wonder if you’re a troll trying to make a strawman out of WN.

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    But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences).

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Race and IQ align just the way I like it.

    Which do you suppose attilathehen would "believe in" if they didn't align to his satisfaction?
    , @attilathehen
    You are Chinese. It doesn't matter what you think about the West because you are not a part of it. Also, you keep conflating biology and beliefs.

    I know that Jesus said to evangelize the world. Biology and belief are now in conflict.

    The communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians. Black/Asian priests-popes have no authority over Caucasians. The RCC is now a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi culti grand lodge. We can see that diversity has killed the RCC. A new belief system will have to be founded.

    There would be no Christianity without Plato or Aristotle. Christianity needs Greek philosophy for its reason and logic. St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas used Greek philosophy for this. This doesn't exist in the Old Testament or Judaism. "Hebraic thinking" is an oxymoron.

    Today's "Jews" are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a living example of what happened to the ancient Egyptians/Indians. Israel is Little Egypt/India.

    Francis Fukuyama argued that the advent of Western liberal democracy may signal the endpoint of humanity's sociocultural evolution and the final form of human government. He wrote this in 1992. Now 25 years later we can see he is wrong. He is Asian so again his thinking powers are limited. The Bell Curve pointed to IQ as the most important factor for people. We know now that the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) were destroyed by mixing with blacks. The ancient Indian Aryans were destroyed by mixing with Asians. Western universalism does not work for blacks/Asians. You said you will go back. That is a good first step. You keep trying to "prove" that being Chinese is the best. The Japanese can offer abundant evidence to the contrary. You are using Christianity to guilt the West into accepting you.

    It's over. The most objective reality/truth is IQ. The Nazis and Communists were always searching for their perfect "man." The Nazis, Aryan, the Communists, the "worker." Again, biological beings were needed for their beliefs. Biology is destiny.

  145. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    The Assyrian stirrup, like Chinese replaceable parts and Harappan flush toilets, were an one-off effort that failed to spread. That's a great way to go into wewouldbekangz.

    Yes, and the New World would have developed the wheel. Its one thing to argue that the West is pretty awesome, which I don't see any objection to; its hilarious to believe that the West developed completely without outside influence because "we would have figured it out."

    But what clinches it is the sheer lack of awareness of Jesus' ministry to the Jewish, and no matter what, Christianity owes a fundamental structure from Jewish tradition. The Gentiles only came later:

    Per Matthew 15:22-24..

    These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
     
    But at the end of his life...


    And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

     

    So, in your list of accomplishments, you've managed to promote IQ without understanding, praise Western civilization while being fundamentally unread about it, and claim understanding of Catholicism while being a self-proclaimed heretic in every way.

    Truly, truly, well done. The gleaming example of Western prowess.

    I have a lot of respect for White Nationalists and have mentioned I don't mind Going Back. I don't have any respect for sophistry, though at this point, I have to wonder if you're a troll trying to make a strawman out of WN.

    But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences).

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Race and IQ align just the way I like it.

    Which do you suppose attilathehen would “believe in” if they didn’t align to his satisfaction?

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    The mysterious timbre of essential souls, surely.

    Asians cannot thing abstractly and their “souls” are of an inferior quality – they contain no “Faustian energy.”
     

    The secret power of Faustian energy is to replace "k" with "g."
    , @attilathehen
    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China. You can help to make China great again.
  146. @iffen
    But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences).

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Race and IQ align just the way I like it.

    Which do you suppose attilathehen would "believe in" if they didn't align to his satisfaction?

    The mysterious timbre of essential souls, surely.

    Asians cannot thing abstractly and their “souls” are of an inferior quality – they contain no “Faustian energy.”

    The secret power of Faustian energy is to replace “k” with “g.”

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  147. @Daniel Chieh
    The Assyrian stirrup, like Chinese replaceable parts and Harappan flush toilets, were an one-off effort that failed to spread. That's a great way to go into wewouldbekangz.

    Yes, and the New World would have developed the wheel. Its one thing to argue that the West is pretty awesome, which I don't see any objection to; its hilarious to believe that the West developed completely without outside influence because "we would have figured it out."

    But what clinches it is the sheer lack of awareness of Jesus' ministry to the Jewish, and no matter what, Christianity owes a fundamental structure from Jewish tradition. The Gentiles only came later:

    Per Matthew 15:22-24..

    These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
     
    But at the end of his life...


    And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

     

    So, in your list of accomplishments, you've managed to promote IQ without understanding, praise Western civilization while being fundamentally unread about it, and claim understanding of Catholicism while being a self-proclaimed heretic in every way.

    Truly, truly, well done. The gleaming example of Western prowess.

    I have a lot of respect for White Nationalists and have mentioned I don't mind Going Back. I don't have any respect for sophistry, though at this point, I have to wonder if you're a troll trying to make a strawman out of WN.

    You are Chinese. It doesn’t matter what you think about the West because you are not a part of it. Also, you keep conflating biology and beliefs.

    I know that Jesus said to evangelize the world. Biology and belief are now in conflict.

    The communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians. Black/Asian priests-popes have no authority over Caucasians. The RCC is now a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi culti grand lodge. We can see that diversity has killed the RCC. A new belief system will have to be founded.

    There would be no Christianity without Plato or Aristotle. Christianity needs Greek philosophy for its reason and logic. St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas used Greek philosophy for this. This doesn’t exist in the Old Testament or Judaism. “Hebraic thinking” is an oxymoron.

    Today’s “Jews” are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a living example of what happened to the ancient Egyptians/Indians. Israel is Little Egypt/India.

    Francis Fukuyama argued that the advent of Western liberal democracy may signal the endpoint of humanity’s sociocultural evolution and the final form of human government. He wrote this in 1992. Now 25 years later we can see he is wrong. He is Asian so again his thinking powers are limited. The Bell Curve pointed to IQ as the most important factor for people. We know now that the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) were destroyed by mixing with blacks. The ancient Indian Aryans were destroyed by mixing with Asians. Western universalism does not work for blacks/Asians. You said you will go back. That is a good first step. You keep trying to “prove” that being Chinese is the best. The Japanese can offer abundant evidence to the contrary. You are using Christianity to guilt the West into accepting you.

    It’s over. The most objective reality/truth is IQ. The Nazis and Communists were always searching for their perfect “man.” The Nazis, Aryan, the Communists, the “worker.” Again, biological beings were needed for their beliefs. Biology is destiny.

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    And Faustian thinging, too!

    Your theory of mind is as capable as your grasp on reason. Continue forward, shining exemplar of the West!

    BTW, you may also be interested in Charles Murray's Coming Apart as you think so highly of his indeed well-written Bell Curve. I think he has a place for you there ;)

  148. @iffen
    But I believe in IQ before all (and this coincides with race differences).

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Race and IQ align just the way I like it.

    Which do you suppose attilathehen would "believe in" if they didn't align to his satisfaction?

    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China. You can help to make China great again.

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    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China

    Are you buying the tickets?

    I've always wanted to see a great civilization that has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years up close and in person.

    , @Anonymous
    And you can go back to the Caucasus mountains, since you're Caucasian. Or since you're Christian, go back to the Middle East, which is where your savior and religion come from.
  149. @attilathehen
    You are Chinese. It doesn't matter what you think about the West because you are not a part of it. Also, you keep conflating biology and beliefs.

    I know that Jesus said to evangelize the world. Biology and belief are now in conflict.

    The communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians. Black/Asian priests-popes have no authority over Caucasians. The RCC is now a homosexual, Freemasonic, multi culti grand lodge. We can see that diversity has killed the RCC. A new belief system will have to be founded.

    There would be no Christianity without Plato or Aristotle. Christianity needs Greek philosophy for its reason and logic. St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas used Greek philosophy for this. This doesn't exist in the Old Testament or Judaism. "Hebraic thinking" is an oxymoron.

    Today's "Jews" are a miscegenated, meshuggah melange who are a living example of what happened to the ancient Egyptians/Indians. Israel is Little Egypt/India.

    Francis Fukuyama argued that the advent of Western liberal democracy may signal the endpoint of humanity's sociocultural evolution and the final form of human government. He wrote this in 1992. Now 25 years later we can see he is wrong. He is Asian so again his thinking powers are limited. The Bell Curve pointed to IQ as the most important factor for people. We know now that the ancient Egyptians (Caucasians) were destroyed by mixing with blacks. The ancient Indian Aryans were destroyed by mixing with Asians. Western universalism does not work for blacks/Asians. You said you will go back. That is a good first step. You keep trying to "prove" that being Chinese is the best. The Japanese can offer abundant evidence to the contrary. You are using Christianity to guilt the West into accepting you.

    It's over. The most objective reality/truth is IQ. The Nazis and Communists were always searching for their perfect "man." The Nazis, Aryan, the Communists, the "worker." Again, biological beings were needed for their beliefs. Biology is destiny.

    And Faustian thinging, too!

    Your theory of mind is as capable as your grasp on reason. Continue forward, shining exemplar of the West!

    BTW, you may also be interested in Charles Murray’s Coming Apart as you think so highly of his indeed well-written Bell Curve. I think he has a place for you there ;)

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    I think he has a place for you there

    Now, now, Daniel, schadenfreude is gauche thinging.
    , @attilathehen
    We will deal with our own problems. Worry about China's problems. Reflect on China's 1 child policy. It was a good thing for the West. Over 400 million abortions were performed (other estimates show higher numbers). China is now the fastest aging country in the world. China never was and never will be great again. The Japanese are happy too.
  150. iffen says:
    @attilathehen
    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China. You can help to make China great again.

    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China

    Are you buying the tickets?

    I’ve always wanted to see a great civilization that has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years up close and in person.

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    If you want to do it on the cheap, take a bus trip to Mexico City.
  151. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    And Faustian thinging, too!

    Your theory of mind is as capable as your grasp on reason. Continue forward, shining exemplar of the West!

    BTW, you may also be interested in Charles Murray's Coming Apart as you think so highly of his indeed well-written Bell Curve. I think he has a place for you there ;)

    I think he has a place for you there

    Now, now, Daniel, schadenfreude is gauche thinging.

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  152. @Daniel Chieh
    And Faustian thinging, too!

    Your theory of mind is as capable as your grasp on reason. Continue forward, shining exemplar of the West!

    BTW, you may also be interested in Charles Murray's Coming Apart as you think so highly of his indeed well-written Bell Curve. I think he has a place for you there ;)

    We will deal with our own problems. Worry about China’s problems. Reflect on China’s 1 child policy. It was a good thing for the West. Over 400 million abortions were performed (other estimates show higher numbers). China is now the fastest aging country in the world. China never was and never will be great again. The Japanese are happy too.

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  153. Corvinus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Cuck is an absolutely meaningful and appropriate term, describes you perfectly.

    “Cuck is an absolutely meaningful and appropriate term, describes you perfectly.”

    No, it merely demonstrates your intellectual sterility.

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  154. Dear Steven,

    I enjoyed your essay very much (very inspiring!), so I’d like to share my views on it. To me it was a long read (2 – 3 times longer than Internet news articles I usually care to read), but you kept me going with your meaty, informative, inspiring and (at times) ironic style.

    First a bit about myself: I’m a 54 year old Dutchman (so you might call me a ‘straight white male Dutch native’ ;-) living in Bolivia since 2002 (so we’re almost neighbours). Though a civil engineer, just getting by (no car, no swimming pool, healthy but no health insurance, no regrets either). I’m trying to cut loose from this materialist society, too (as you described some people do), by trying to start an ecological homestead in Coroico (a small town in the Amazonian foothills of the Andes, though it proves harder than expected, which is by itself not that unexpected).
    I grew up in a protestant family in Holland and at age 16 – 21 I used to be seriously religious. But this faded slowly and at some point, after having read a most convincing book (by a local philosopher and scholar of Greek and Latin, analysing the original Greek text of the Evangel of Mark and putting it in the context of its time) about who Jesus really must have been and how the early Christian church came into being, I rejected Christianity (or any religion, for that matter, though allowing some measure of sympathy for Buddhism) with equal conviction. However, I’ve always preserved my fondness of what Christianity has taught me, as described most explicitly in the book of (what’s the English name?) acts/deeds: that the first Christians lived in autonomous self-sustaining communities that looked fairly similar to contemporary communist ideas.

    So now to your essay: though no Christian anymore, I must agree (or rather, I do agree, voluntarily) with your point of the importance of Christianity (or any other religion in any other part of the world) as the ultimate untouchable authority/anchor to safeguard the social and moral bearings of a society. In fact, somehow (I can’t put my finger on it exactly), your argument wasn’t really news to me (but good to be reminded of again). Maybe because of the fondness of my religious experiences in my younger days, an awareness that the norms of “justice” (in any shape or form: moral, social, economic, political, physical, generational) should always be beyond the reach of the whims of contemporary human opinion, should always be something universal, like the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights” of the UN.
    Agreeing with your argument, makes me remember this funny (but, in my opinion, very true) statement (of, was it Seneca the Younger?): “The ignorant believe that god exists, the wise know that god is an illusion, the men in power think that god is useful.” I always thought about this phrase in a cynical way: the powers that shouldn’t be, using/creating religious conflicts to further their own interests. We’ve seen those kinds of ‘religious conflicts’ play out through the centuries: from my homeland’s (Holland’s) rebellion against the Spanish inquisition in the 16th century (which in fact was a war of political, economic and territorial independence from the Spanish kingdom), all the way through our present day ‘war against Muslim terrorism’ (which in fact revolves around the US’s attempts to not lose their global hegemony and to control/secure the last remaining major oil reserves in the world). But your view on the importance of religion as a moral and social anchor to restrain the power of governments, puts this phrase in a more positive/constructive daylight.
    To summarize: on a personal level, your views on religion don’t change mine. However, on a societal level, I do see your point and I have nothing substantial to contradict it. Obviously this leaves me with an awkward contradiction: acknowledging (the importance of) god on a societal level, but rejecting his very existence on a personal level. I guess that’s just the consequence of this constructive interpretation of Seneca’s statement. In any case, this contradiction is my own to come to terms with.

    In any case Steven, I thank you for your brilliant and inspiring essay and I’ll keep an eye open for more articles of your hand.

    Most regards,
    Hans Zandvliet
    Coroico, Bolivia

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    What do you think/believe about IQ? Average Bolivian IQ is 87. What do you think/believe about IQ in relation to Christianity?
  155. Steven, I forgot: I’d apreciate your response.
    hans.ut.fryslan@gmail.com (is it allowed mention on this website?):

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  156. @Hans Zandvliet
    Dear Steven,

    I enjoyed your essay very much (very inspiring!), so I’d like to share my views on it. To me it was a long read (2 – 3 times longer than Internet news articles I usually care to read), but you kept me going with your meaty, informative, inspiring and (at times) ironic style.

    First a bit about myself: I’m a 54 year old Dutchman (so you might call me a ‘straight white male Dutch native’ ;-) living in Bolivia since 2002 (so we’re almost neighbours). Though a civil engineer, just getting by (no car, no swimming pool, healthy but no health insurance, no regrets either). I’m trying to cut loose from this materialist society, too (as you described some people do), by trying to start an ecological homestead in Coroico (a small town in the Amazonian foothills of the Andes, though it proves harder than expected, which is by itself not that unexpected).
    I grew up in a protestant family in Holland and at age 16 – 21 I used to be seriously religious. But this faded slowly and at some point, after having read a most convincing book (by a local philosopher and scholar of Greek and Latin, analysing the original Greek text of the Evangel of Mark and putting it in the context of its time) about who Jesus really must have been and how the early Christian church came into being, I rejected Christianity (or any religion, for that matter, though allowing some measure of sympathy for Buddhism) with equal conviction. However, I’ve always preserved my fondness of what Christianity has taught me, as described most explicitly in the book of (what’s the English name?) acts/deeds: that the first Christians lived in autonomous self-sustaining communities that looked fairly similar to contemporary communist ideas.

    So now to your essay: though no Christian anymore, I must agree (or rather, I do agree, voluntarily) with your point of the importance of Christianity (or any other religion in any other part of the world) as the ultimate untouchable authority/anchor to safeguard the social and moral bearings of a society. In fact, somehow (I can’t put my finger on it exactly), your argument wasn’t really news to me (but good to be reminded of again). Maybe because of the fondness of my religious experiences in my younger days, an awareness that the norms of “justice” (in any shape or form: moral, social, economic, political, physical, generational) should always be beyond the reach of the whims of contemporary human opinion, should always be something universal, like the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights” of the UN.
    Agreeing with your argument, makes me remember this funny (but, in my opinion, very true) statement (of, was it Seneca the Younger?): “The ignorant believe that god exists, the wise know that god is an illusion, the men in power think that god is useful.” I always thought about this phrase in a cynical way: the powers that shouldn’t be, using/creating religious conflicts to further their own interests. We’ve seen those kinds of ‘religious conflicts’ play out through the centuries: from my homeland’s (Holland’s) rebellion against the Spanish inquisition in the 16th century (which in fact was a war of political, economic and territorial independence from the Spanish kingdom), all the way through our present day ‘war against Muslim terrorism’ (which in fact revolves around the US’s attempts to not lose their global hegemony and to control/secure the last remaining major oil reserves in the world). But your view on the importance of religion as a moral and social anchor to restrain the power of governments, puts this phrase in a more positive/constructive daylight.
    To summarize: on a personal level, your views on religion don’t change mine. However, on a societal level, I do see your point and I have nothing substantial to contradict it. Obviously this leaves me with an awkward contradiction: acknowledging (the importance of) god on a societal level, but rejecting his very existence on a personal level. I guess that’s just the consequence of this constructive interpretation of Seneca’s statement. In any case, this contradiction is my own to come to terms with.

    In any case Steven, I thank you for your brilliant and inspiring essay and I’ll keep an eye open for more articles of your hand.

    Most regards,
    Hans Zandvliet
    Coroico, Bolivia

    What do you think/believe about IQ? Average Bolivian IQ is 87. What do you think/believe about IQ in relation to Christianity?

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    Average IQ of Bolivians is exactly 100.
    Average IQ in relationship with Christianity is also exactly 100.
    What's your point, apart from insulting an entire nation?
    Have you ever been to Bolivia?
  157. @attilathehen
    What do you think/believe about IQ? Average Bolivian IQ is 87. What do you think/believe about IQ in relation to Christianity?

    Average IQ of Bolivians is exactly 100.
    Average IQ in relationship with Christianity is also exactly 100.
    What’s your point, apart from insulting an entire nation?
    Have you ever been to Bolivia?

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    Fascinating. Are you married or involved with a Bolivian woman (i.e., Indian)?

    Are you familiar with the book about the IQ of nations? You can google this info. Bolivia does not rank very high.

    I have not been to Bolivia, but I have traveled or met people from several Latin American countries. Black Latin countries, i.e, Brazil, Cuba, Panama, Venezuela are a mess. You can google their average IQs. I speak Spanish (and German) so I can read and understand everything.

    The Indian (mestizo) countries like Bolivia, Guatemala, El Salvador are also in horrific conditions.

    Christianity in Bolivia is not doing too well. Evo Morales, the indigenous Indian president, follows pagan Indian practices. He believes in Cuchi-Cuchi (nothing to do with Charo). He only practices Roman Catholicism for some events. He promotes the use of the coca leaf. The opiate of the nation to keep the people from seeing the reality of their poverty stricken lives.

    You are Dutch and were a civil engineer. Your IQ is well over 115. I used to work in patent law and worked with many types of engineers.

    You are a perfect example of the cuck Caucasian Christian male who will not fight for the West. A "simple" life among low IQ, strung out Indians has given you peace. Unbelievable!!!

  158. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China. You can help to make China great again.

    And you can go back to the Caucasus mountains, since you’re Caucasian. Or since you’re Christian, go back to the Middle East, which is where your savior and religion come from.

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    So saith the "1/2 ethnically Jewish Anonymous." I recall a comment you made to be me concerning Derbyshire. It was about an article Derb wrote about Macron's older wife. I said that at least his wife was white and not Asian like Derbyshire's China woman. You told me to layoff Derb and his Chinese import. Jewish Sinophilia is well known. Marc Zuckerberg and Prissy Chan are the primary example.
  159. @Hans Zandvliet
    Average IQ of Bolivians is exactly 100.
    Average IQ in relationship with Christianity is also exactly 100.
    What's your point, apart from insulting an entire nation?
    Have you ever been to Bolivia?

    Fascinating. Are you married or involved with a Bolivian woman (i.e., Indian)?

    Are you familiar with the book about the IQ of nations? You can google this info. Bolivia does not rank very high.

    I have not been to Bolivia, but I have traveled or met people from several Latin American countries. Black Latin countries, i.e, Brazil, Cuba, Panama, Venezuela are a mess. You can google their average IQs. I speak Spanish (and German) so I can read and understand everything.

    The Indian (mestizo) countries like Bolivia, Guatemala, El Salvador are also in horrific conditions.

    Christianity in Bolivia is not doing too well. Evo Morales, the indigenous Indian president, follows pagan Indian practices. He believes in Cuchi-Cuchi (nothing to do with Charo). He only practices Roman Catholicism for some events. He promotes the use of the coca leaf. The opiate of the nation to keep the people from seeing the reality of their poverty stricken lives.

    You are Dutch and were a civil engineer. Your IQ is well over 115. I used to work in patent law and worked with many types of engineers.

    You are a perfect example of the cuck Caucasian Christian male who will not fight for the West. A “simple” life among low IQ, strung out Indians has given you peace. Unbelievable!!!

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    Hans Zandvliet, thank you for taking our ferret faced friend to task. You are the epitome of a white Christian man.

    attila, IQ is not the end all and be all. You have a fixation on this concept. Please seek professional help.
    , @Hans Zandvliet
    Hello Attilathehen,

    I checked the IQ website you referred to (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country) and it mentions a Bolivian IQ of 87 indeed. This convinced me that you did not necessarily mean to insult Bolivians, so I’ll take you follow up seriously (long enough to be taken seriously anyway).
    First I’d like to comment on the Bolivian IQ issue. I don’t know how those IQ numbers of all countries in the world have been determined, but I feel highly suspicious about them. As far as I know, the IQ (Intelligence Quotient) of a person is defined as the quotient of the intelligence of this person and the average intelligence of human beings. The difficulty, of course, is how to measure this intelligence. Many kinds of tests have been developed and the amount of tests already indicates how highly contested this issue is. Just to mention a few issues (though I’m no expert at all on this subject, I happen to have learned a few things about it, out of personal curiosity):
    • How to distinguish between acquired knowledge and intelligence? An IQ-test should be designed in such a way that it wouldn’t matter to test an illiterate or a Harvard professor. After all, one might be extremely bright in spite of never having had the chance to study (a common circumstance in poor countries and Bolivia has always been the poorest country of South-America). Talking about a diversity of people ranging from the last nomadic tribes in the last remaining tropical forests and arctic tundras, all the way to the Harvard professor I already mentioned, this is obviously a very tall (if not impossible) order.
    • Developers of IQ-tests have come across the most unexpected biases, based on cultural, linguistic, etc. differences. A well-known example is that people familiar with a hieroglyphic script (like China and Japan) are much better at solving IQ-questions based on geometry. Another one is that various African tribes don’t fall into the trap of visual deceptions based on the 2D perspective of 3D rectangular shapes (the kind of geometric images with the question: “Which line is longer?”), because they live in the wild and in round huts so their eyes have never been conditioned to the effects of perspective of rectangular shapes.
    These few examples should serve to realize how unreliable IQ-tests can be. They may be fairly accurate to compare western people to a western average, but they can fail miserably under non-western circumstances. So I remain highly sceptical about the data of the website you mentioned.
    To determine the IQ of a person, his/her (somehow measured) intelligence is divided by the average intelligence (the denominator of the quotient on which the IQ is based). That’s why I could state with absolute certainty, that the average IQ of Bolivians (or Christians, or any large group of people) is exactly 100: the average Bolivian IQ, divided by the average Bolivian IQ, (equals 1) multiplied by 100.
    I presume that there is no difference of IQ between the many peoples and nations of our world, until proven otherwise. There might be differences (who knows?), but to calibrate IQ-tests for cultural, etc. differences is very complicated.
    The IQ of persons (estimating me at “well over 115”) and peoples (estimating Bolivians at just 87) seems to be very important to you, but to me, for various reasons, not that much. Poor and illiterate people may be smart and may have a rich and fulfilling social life (people that I have often met in Bolivia and who have impressed me more than most western intellectuals), while rich and highly educated people may be lonely robots dragging themselves from one day to the next with antidepressants.

    As for myself, I was married to a Bolivian woman. But we divorced recently and now I live on my own in this peasant community in the Amazonian foothills of the Bolivian Andes.
    Bolivians, as a remnant of the Spanish colonial era, are mostly catholic. However, strong pre-Colombian pagan beliefs and rituals still remain (which I appreciate highly!): the reverence of the traditional life-giving goddess Pachamama (many people still bring her fire offerings every first Friday of the month and every Friday of August, August being the month of Pachamama).
    When my President Evo Morales got inaugurated, those rituals and offerings to Pachamama were performed just as well. Without them, he would have been just another gringo president; after them he became OUR OWN President (by the way, I don’t always agree with what he does and sometimes he does [in my eyes] plain stupid things, but Evo is OUR President and he’s a whole lot better than just about any previous Bolivian president and any contemporary candidate).
    Surely Evo promotes the coca leaf (for traditional uses and non-cocaine alternatives): before he became President, he was the leader of the coca growers’ union (so what do you expect?)! Evo doesn’t promote cocaine, but he doesn’t criminalize coca-growing peasants either. Evo is looking for non-cocaine alternatives.
    Those peasants don’t have anything to do with the drug trade at all. They just sell their coca crop to the highest bidder and (due to the tremendous prices of cocaine in western contries) coca simply became the most profitable crop to grow (who’s to blame: the Bolivian peasant, barely able to feed and clothe his family?)
    I chew coca leaves myself: daily, practically all day (as is my habit for over a decade now)! I chew about half a pound (a quarter of a kilo) of coca leaves each week. Do you know how much coca leave it takes to produce one gram of cocaine? About 5 kg (10 lb)! This means that me chewing coca leaves (at a rate of half a pound per week), it would take me (10 lb / 0.5 lb/week =) 20 weeks to consume the equivalent of one gram of cocaine. This goes to make clear that chewing coca leaves (a South-American tradition for at least 3,000 years, according to archaeological finds) has about as much to do with snorting cocaine, as drinking a pint of beer instead of a pint of pure (96%) alcohol.
    Finally, I don’t know exactly what you mean with a “cuck Caucasian Christian male”. First, I couldn’t find the adjective “cuck” in any dictionary. And second, I’m not a Christian at all, but a convinced atheist However, rubbing two of my brain cells together, yes, I can see and I agree with Steven’s point that any secular legislation is a poor anchor for universal human rights and moral standards (nowadays, corporations like Monsanto, Shell and Microsoft, can just buy and sell those rights [by buying the necessary politicians, which is common practice already], so we’ve lost our main anchor!).
    On a personal level, I don’t see myself returning to the holy mother church ever again (though I highly appreciated Steven’s points of view!). However, on a societal level I do understand that religion still has an important part to play (as our last bulwark against naked, all devouring, capitalist greed). Maybe, someday, hopefully, we may free ourselves from the shackles of the way we measure our economic progress: the pathetically one-dimensional ruler of GDP, which forces all of us to believe that money is the only thing that matters. Until then (and I say this as a convinced atheist!), religion (any kind of religion for any corner of the world) might still save humanity from utter self-destruction. With that I don’t convert myself again to any kind of religion. I just repeat Seneca’s statement in my initial comment to Steven’s essay (while thinking as a politician) that “god is useful”.
  160. Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    I am not convinced that the roots of the Left have anything to do with theory. Rather, the theory was invented to justify what people have always wanted, which expresses an inner weakness and fear of life itself. They do not want to lose, in a Darwinian sense, and instead use social pressure to remove the possibility of Darwinistic loss by demanding equality of status so that they are included by automatic, uniform and non-judgmental process regardless of how badly their acts end up (Darwinistic loss) or their previous history, lack of ability, low moral character and so on.

    The Alt Right reverses this process by getting away from the Enlightenment-era focus on the individual, and instead looking toward results in reality through the wide-angle lens of history on the ten thousand year scale.

    “I am not convinced that the roots of the Left have anything to do with theory. Rather, the theory was invented to justify what people have always wanted, which expresses an inner weakness and fear of life itself.”

    Leftist, just like the Alt Right, is predicated on theory, an invention to justify what people believe how things ought to operate. Indeed, there is weakness and fear, but it is of the opposing ideology and what it all entails.

    “They do not want to lose, in a Darwinian sense, and instead use social pressure to remove the possibility of Darwinistic loss by demanding equality of status so that they are included by automatic, uniform and non-judgmental process regardless of how badly their acts end up (Darwinistic loss) or their previous history, lack of ability, low moral character and so on.”

    The problem with Southrons like yourself is that you had gamed the system by negating equality of status, in particular those fine southern gentlemen and ladies who sought to exercise their liberty to associate with non-whites for business and for pleasure.

    “The Alt Right reverses this process by getting away from the Enlightenment-era focus on the individual, and instead looking toward results in reality through the wide-angle lens of history on the ten thousand year scale.”

    Americans and Westerners generally prefer to focus on the individual, and to be able to use reason to make decisions in their best interests, as well as for society. What you are desperately trying to do is control the narrative and put forth a plan of action that is Fascist in nature. We, The People, say “No thank you”.

    Consider what you had said about two months ago “While I detest democracy in all forms — even a group of people choosing what is for lunch — it would be interesting to imagine future voting booths with brain scans that only allowed entrance for those with high IQ, sincerity and honesty…”

    First, that is absolutely insane for you to “detest” people from forming groups and choosing for themselves what they want to eat. Second, it would be other than interesting for voting booths to have this technology. People like yourself who think in this manner are consumed with raw power. Again, We The People say “No thank you”.

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    The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing.

    Yes, the cucks love "muh freedom" and "muh equality" but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left.

    We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us.

    Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named "Ult Right."
  161. Corvinus says:
    @attilathehen
    Fascinating. Are you married or involved with a Bolivian woman (i.e., Indian)?

    Are you familiar with the book about the IQ of nations? You can google this info. Bolivia does not rank very high.

    I have not been to Bolivia, but I have traveled or met people from several Latin American countries. Black Latin countries, i.e, Brazil, Cuba, Panama, Venezuela are a mess. You can google their average IQs. I speak Spanish (and German) so I can read and understand everything.

    The Indian (mestizo) countries like Bolivia, Guatemala, El Salvador are also in horrific conditions.

    Christianity in Bolivia is not doing too well. Evo Morales, the indigenous Indian president, follows pagan Indian practices. He believes in Cuchi-Cuchi (nothing to do with Charo). He only practices Roman Catholicism for some events. He promotes the use of the coca leaf. The opiate of the nation to keep the people from seeing the reality of their poverty stricken lives.

    You are Dutch and were a civil engineer. Your IQ is well over 115. I used to work in patent law and worked with many types of engineers.

    You are a perfect example of the cuck Caucasian Christian male who will not fight for the West. A "simple" life among low IQ, strung out Indians has given you peace. Unbelievable!!!

    Hans Zandvliet, thank you for taking our ferret faced friend to task. You are the epitome of a white Christian man.

    attila, IQ is not the end all and be all. You have a fixation on this concept. Please seek professional help.

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    Joining your friend in Bolivia might be the jolt you need.

    The most dangerous person in the world is the cuck Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer male.

    This person cannot deal with objective reality. The most important which is IQ, which is tied to race.
    , @Hans Zandvliet
    To Corvinius as well as Attilathehen,

    The both of you have not really taken note of the fact that I have stated, from the beginning, that I AM AN ATHEIST. I do NOT agree with (parts of) Steven’s arguments because I’m a Christian, but because… (read Steven’s religious arguments and compare them to mine, again, and again, and again!). Can’t it enter into your brains that it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE for an atheist to agree (sometimes) with a religious person??? Do you now finally get my atheist point of view?

    I thought we were getting into a serious, respectful and worthwhile exchange of ideas and opinions, but personal insults have overtaken facts and arguments. So please continue among the two of you, but allow me to bow out.
  162. @Corvinus
    "I am not convinced that the roots of the Left have anything to do with theory. Rather, the theory was invented to justify what people have always wanted, which expresses an inner weakness and fear of life itself."

    Leftist, just like the Alt Right, is predicated on theory, an invention to justify what people believe how things ought to operate. Indeed, there is weakness and fear, but it is of the opposing ideology and what it all entails.

    "They do not want to lose, in a Darwinian sense, and instead use social pressure to remove the possibility of Darwinistic loss by demanding equality of status so that they are included by automatic, uniform and non-judgmental process regardless of how badly their acts end up (Darwinistic loss) or their previous history, lack of ability, low moral character and so on."

    The problem with Southrons like yourself is that you had gamed the system by negating equality of status, in particular those fine southern gentlemen and ladies who sought to exercise their liberty to associate with non-whites for business and for pleasure.

    "The Alt Right reverses this process by getting away from the Enlightenment-era focus on the individual, and instead looking toward results in reality through the wide-angle lens of history on the ten thousand year scale."

    Americans and Westerners generally prefer to focus on the individual, and to be able to use reason to make decisions in their best interests, as well as for society. What you are desperately trying to do is control the narrative and put forth a plan of action that is Fascist in nature. We, The People, say "No thank you".

    Consider what you had said about two months ago "While I detest democracy in all forms — even a group of people choosing what is for lunch — it would be interesting to imagine future voting booths with brain scans that only allowed entrance for those with high IQ, sincerity and honesty..."

    First, that is absolutely insane for you to "detest" people from forming groups and choosing for themselves what they want to eat. Second, it would be other than interesting for voting booths to have this technology. People like yourself who think in this manner are consumed with raw power. Again, We The People say "No thank you".

    The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing.

    Yes, the cucks love “muh freedom” and “muh equality” but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left.

    We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us.

    Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named “Ult Right.”

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  163. @Corvinus
    Hans Zandvliet, thank you for taking our ferret faced friend to task. You are the epitome of a white Christian man.

    attila, IQ is not the end all and be all. You have a fixation on this concept. Please seek professional help.

    Joining your friend in Bolivia might be the jolt you need.

    The most dangerous person in the world is the cuck Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer male.

    This person cannot deal with objective reality. The most important which is IQ, which is tied to race.

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  164. Corvinus says:

    “The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing.”

    First, tens of millions of Americans do not view themselves as “The West” or “Westerners”; they refer to themselves as Americans or citizens of the United States. Likewise, Europeans tend to reference themselves as “English”, or “French”, or “Italian”.

    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.

    Third, you are correct in that increasing numbers of people like yourself, through social media, are virtue signaling the “changes” in the world you and your ilk consider to be frightening. Feel free to initiate your own brand of reforms, and face a lightening rod of criticism and revulsion.

    “Yes, the cucks love “muh freedom” and “muh equality” but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left.”

    First, the term “cuck” is devoid of any meaning. It is for the intellectual sterile. Are you that impotent?

    Second, the historical trend in politics for centuries has been about freedom and equality.

    “We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us.”

    The only idiot is you.

    “Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named “Ult Right.”

    There is no doubt you are Fascist. You once said your ideal American society would be a “network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land…Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

    Your desire to install by force a Christian monarchy and/or aristocracy, with patriarchal and social hierarchal underpinnings, is something that most Americans, regardless of race, creed, or religion, would violently oppose.

    What are the inherent problems with creating and implementing this new system? Who would consist of this monarchy and/or aristocracy? Who decides what sect of Christianity (e.g. fundamentalist, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist) would be “required”? How would atheists be dealt with? How would citizens be able to redress their grievances? How would dissent be dealt with by this new “elite”?

    Furthermore, how does one recognize “mental defectives”? What are the metrics involved? Who are deemed to be the “kings” and “lords”? Where is this location of exiles? What would be the response of “leaders” to the exiles if they opposed their designation?

    And, finally, are you an aristocrat? Is your partner in crime Mark Citadel? Why ought “We The People” be coerced to kow tow to your whims?

    You sell your wares from a philosophical point of view. But you rarely emphasis the practicality of NRx. Offer us specifics in how and why people ought to come into your camp from a realistic standpoint. Why should “We The People” forgo our liberty and be autocratically governed by elites consisting of a monarch and/or an aristocracy? Why should “We The People” submit to your brand of religion, to what amounts to orthodoxy?

    More questions than there are answers to this deranged proposal, which strips away at the liberty that it reportedly protects and inherently creates the same problems that it supposedly solves.

    Does you even fathom that your philosophy is rooted in your own brand of thought control? Delicious irony.

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    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.
     
    I think there can be 'too much focus of the individual'. Individualism, consumerism, Ayn Rand-style shit (IQ-idolatry is the same sort of thing).

    And the backlash to 'too much focus of the individual' can take different forms, some of them highly unpleasant, like the one we observe here.

    Balance, man. Too much of anything is poison.
    , @Brett Stevens


    You once said your ideal American society would be a “network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land…Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

     

    This is not fascism; it is escape from modernity. Anything else puts us right back to the same place we are now, which is as a failed state.

    Americans -- what does this term even mean? -- may consider themselves lots of things. If America has a future, it is as a Western European nation, as it was at its founding.

    Control is the opposite of leadership. Leadership seeks what is real; control seeks what is unreal and uses it to enforce more control.

    Democracy is just one of its forms.
  165. Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing.

    Yes, the cucks love "muh freedom" and "muh equality" but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left.

    We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us.

    Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named "Ult Right."

    Comment 174 is intended for you.

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  166. @Corvinus
    "The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing."

    First, tens of millions of Americans do not view themselves as "The West" or "Westerners"; they refer to themselves as Americans or citizens of the United States. Likewise, Europeans tend to reference themselves as "English", or "French", or "Italian".

    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.

    Third, you are correct in that increasing numbers of people like yourself, through social media, are virtue signaling the "changes" in the world you and your ilk consider to be frightening. Feel free to initiate your own brand of reforms, and face a lightening rod of criticism and revulsion.

    "Yes, the cucks love “muh freedom” and “muh equality” but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left."

    First, the term "cuck" is devoid of any meaning. It is for the intellectual sterile. Are you that impotent?

    Second, the historical trend in politics for centuries has been about freedom and equality.

    "We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us."

    The only idiot is you.

    "Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named “Ult Right.”

    There is no doubt you are Fascist. You once said your ideal American society would be a "network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land...Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

    Your desire to install by force a Christian monarchy and/or aristocracy, with patriarchal and social hierarchal underpinnings, is something that most Americans, regardless of race, creed, or religion, would violently oppose.

    What are the inherent problems with creating and implementing this new system? Who would consist of this monarchy and/or aristocracy? Who decides what sect of Christianity (e.g. fundamentalist, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist) would be “required”? How would atheists be dealt with? How would citizens be able to redress their grievances? How would dissent be dealt with by this new "elite"?

    Furthermore, how does one recognize “mental defectives”? What are the metrics involved? Who are deemed to be the “kings” and “lords”? Where is this location of exiles? What would be the response of “leaders” to the exiles if they opposed their designation?

    And, finally, are you an aristocrat? Is your partner in crime Mark Citadel? Why ought "We The People" be coerced to kow tow to your whims?

    You sell your wares from a philosophical point of view. But you rarely emphasis the practicality of NRx. Offer us specifics in how and why people ought to come into your camp from a realistic standpoint. Why should "We The People" forgo our liberty and be autocratically governed by elites consisting of a monarch and/or an aristocracy? Why should "We The People" submit to your brand of religion, to what amounts to orthodoxy?

    More questions than there are answers to this deranged proposal, which strips away at the liberty that it reportedly protects and inherently creates the same problems that it supposedly solves.

    Does you even fathom that your philosophy is rooted in your own brand of thought control? Delicious irony.

    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.

    I think there can be ‘too much focus of the individual’. Individualism, consumerism, Ayn Rand-style shit (IQ-idolatry is the same sort of thing).

    And the backlash to ‘too much focus of the individual’ can take different forms, some of them highly unpleasant, like the one we observe here.

    Balance, man. Too much of anything is poison.

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    I think there can be ‘too much focus of the individual’. Individualism, consumerism, Ayn Rand-style shit (IQ-idolatry is the same sort of thing).

     

    I agree, although IQ is really important. The right answer is to recognize that individualism as a philosophy is broken, and that we need another philosophy, not to try to enforce anti-individualism with rules and "incentives."
  167. @attilathehen
    Fascinating. Are you married or involved with a Bolivian woman (i.e., Indian)?

    Are you familiar with the book about the IQ of nations? You can google this info. Bolivia does not rank very high.

    I have not been to Bolivia, but I have traveled or met people from several Latin American countries. Black Latin countries, i.e, Brazil, Cuba, Panama, Venezuela are a mess. You can google their average IQs. I speak Spanish (and German) so I can read and understand everything.

    The Indian (mestizo) countries like Bolivia, Guatemala, El Salvador are also in horrific conditions.

    Christianity in Bolivia is not doing too well. Evo Morales, the indigenous Indian president, follows pagan Indian practices. He believes in Cuchi-Cuchi (nothing to do with Charo). He only practices Roman Catholicism for some events. He promotes the use of the coca leaf. The opiate of the nation to keep the people from seeing the reality of their poverty stricken lives.

    You are Dutch and were a civil engineer. Your IQ is well over 115. I used to work in patent law and worked with many types of engineers.

    You are a perfect example of the cuck Caucasian Christian male who will not fight for the West. A "simple" life among low IQ, strung out Indians has given you peace. Unbelievable!!!

    Hello Attilathehen,

    I checked the IQ website you referred to (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country) and it mentions a Bolivian IQ of 87 indeed. This convinced me that you did not necessarily mean to insult Bolivians, so I’ll take you follow up seriously (long enough to be taken seriously anyway).
    First I’d like to comment on the Bolivian IQ issue. I don’t know how those IQ numbers of all countries in the world have been determined, but I feel highly suspicious about them. As far as I know, the IQ (Intelligence Quotient) of a person is defined as the quotient of the intelligence of this person and the average intelligence of human beings. The difficulty, of course, is how to measure this intelligence. Many kinds of tests have been developed and the amount of tests already indicates how highly contested this issue is. Just to mention a few issues (though I’m no expert at all on this subject, I happen to have learned a few things about it, out of personal curiosity):
    • How to distinguish between acquired knowledge and intelligence? An IQ-test should be designed in such a way that it wouldn’t matter to test an illiterate or a Harvard professor. After all, one might be extremely bright in spite of never having had the chance to study (a common circumstance in poor countries and Bolivia has always been the poorest country of South-America). Talking about a diversity of people ranging from the last nomadic tribes in the last remaining tropical forests and arctic tundras, all the way to the Harvard professor I already mentioned, this is obviously a very tall (if not impossible) order.
    • Developers of IQ-tests have come across the most unexpected biases, based on cultural, linguistic, etc. differences. A well-known example is that people familiar with a hieroglyphic script (like China and Japan) are much better at solving IQ-questions based on geometry. Another one is that various African tribes don’t fall into the trap of visual deceptions based on the 2D perspective of 3D rectangular shapes (the kind of geometric images with the question: “Which line is longer?”), because they live in the wild and in round huts so their eyes have never been conditioned to the effects of perspective of rectangular shapes.
    These few examples should serve to realize how unreliable IQ-tests can be. They may be fairly accurate to compare western people to a western average, but they can fail miserably under non-western circumstances. So I remain highly sceptical about the data of the website you mentioned.
    To determine the IQ of a person, his/her (somehow measured) intelligence is divided by the average intelligence (the denominator of the quotient on which the IQ is based). That’s why I could state with absolute certainty, that the average IQ of Bolivians (or Christians, or any large group of people) is exactly 100: the average Bolivian IQ, divided by the average Bolivian IQ, (equals 1) multiplied by 100.
    I presume that there is no difference of IQ between the many peoples and nations of our world, until proven otherwise. There might be differences (who knows?), but to calibrate IQ-tests for cultural, etc. differences is very complicated.
    The IQ of persons (estimating me at “well over 115”) and peoples (estimating Bolivians at just 87) seems to be very important to you, but to me, for various reasons, not that much. Poor and illiterate people may be smart and may have a rich and fulfilling social life (people that I have often met in Bolivia and who have impressed me more than most western intellectuals), while rich and highly educated people may be lonely robots dragging themselves from one day to the next with antidepressants.

    As for myself, I was married to a Bolivian woman. But we divorced recently and now I live on my own in this peasant community in the Amazonian foothills of the Bolivian Andes.
    Bolivians, as a remnant of the Spanish colonial era, are mostly catholic. However, strong pre-Colombian pagan beliefs and rituals still remain (which I appreciate highly!): the reverence of the traditional life-giving goddess Pachamama (many people still bring her fire offerings every first Friday of the month and every Friday of August, August being the month of Pachamama).
    When my President Evo Morales got inaugurated, those rituals and offerings to Pachamama were performed just as well. Without them, he would have been just another gringo president; after them he became OUR OWN President (by the way, I don’t always agree with what he does and sometimes he does [in my eyes] plain stupid things, but Evo is OUR President and he’s a whole lot better than just about any previous Bolivian president and any contemporary candidate).
    Surely Evo promotes the coca leaf (for traditional uses and non-cocaine alternatives): before he became President, he was the leader of the coca growers’ union (so what do you expect?)! Evo doesn’t promote cocaine, but he doesn’t criminalize coca-growing peasants either. Evo is looking for non-cocaine alternatives.
    Those peasants don’t have anything to do with the drug trade at all. They just sell their coca crop to the highest bidder and (due to the tremendous prices of cocaine in western contries) coca simply became the most profitable crop to grow (who’s to blame: the Bolivian peasant, barely able to feed and clothe his family?)
    I chew coca leaves myself: daily, practically all day (as is my habit for over a decade now)! I chew about half a pound (a quarter of a kilo) of coca leaves each week. Do you know how much coca leave it takes to produce one gram of cocaine? About 5 kg (10 lb)! This means that me chewing coca leaves (at a rate of half a pound per week), it would take me (10 lb / 0.5 lb/week =) 20 weeks to consume the equivalent of one gram of cocaine. This goes to make clear that chewing coca leaves (a South-American tradition for at least 3,000 years, according to archaeological finds) has about as much to do with snorting cocaine, as drinking a pint of beer instead of a pint of pure (96%) alcohol.
    Finally, I don’t know exactly what you mean with a “cuck Caucasian Christian male”. First, I couldn’t find the adjective “cuck” in any dictionary. And second, I’m not a Christian at all, but a convinced atheist However, rubbing two of my brain cells together, yes, I can see and I agree with Steven’s point that any secular legislation is a poor anchor for universal human rights and moral standards (nowadays, corporations like Monsanto, Shell and Microsoft, can just buy and sell those rights [by buying the necessary politicians, which is common practice already], so we’ve lost our main anchor!).
    On a personal level, I don’t see myself returning to the holy mother church ever again (though I highly appreciated Steven’s points of view!). However, on a societal level I do understand that religion still has an important part to play (as our last bulwark against naked, all devouring, capitalist greed). Maybe, someday, hopefully, we may free ourselves from the shackles of the way we measure our economic progress: the pathetically one-dimensional ruler of GDP, which forces all of us to believe that money is the only thing that matters. Until then (and I say this as a convinced atheist!), religion (any kind of religion for any corner of the world) might still save humanity from utter self-destruction. With that I don’t convert myself again to any kind of religion. I just repeat Seneca’s statement in my initial comment to Steven’s essay (while thinking as a politician) that “god is useful”.

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    A "cuck" is a spineless man. It is the short version of the word cuckold.

    So sad that you left the West. But this is what happens when a man leaves his race/religion behind. I will assume that your Bolivian wife was more Amerindian than high-caste Euromestizo or white. This is shown in describing Evo Morales as our president. Your atheism is not a problem because you do respect Christianity. Unfortunately, you have decided to cast your lot with an inferior third world, pagan nation. Also, chewing cocoa leaves is not helping you.

    I don't blame you for not wanting to return to the mother church. Like I said, I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. A new church will need to be created. Christianity is the best religion for the Western mind, soul. I am still a Christian but with no church.

    IQ determines everything. Only people with IQs of 90+ can create functioning, civil societies. You are lucky that you live in a country with a drugged population too listless from the drugs to cause you any physical harm.

    This is not the case in countries with blacks/Muslims or other types of Asians.

  168. @Corvinus
    Hans Zandvliet, thank you for taking our ferret faced friend to task. You are the epitome of a white Christian man.

    attila, IQ is not the end all and be all. You have a fixation on this concept. Please seek professional help.

    To Corvinius as well as Attilathehen,

    The both of you have not really taken note of the fact that I have stated, from the beginning, that I AM AN ATHEIST. I do NOT agree with (parts of) Steven’s arguments because I’m a Christian, but because… (read Steven’s religious arguments and compare them to mine, again, and again, and again!). Can’t it enter into your brains that it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE for an atheist to agree (sometimes) with a religious person??? Do you now finally get my atheist point of view?

    I thought we were getting into a serious, respectful and worthwhile exchange of ideas and opinions, but personal insults have overtaken facts and arguments. So please continue among the two of you, but allow me to bow out.

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  169. @Corvinus
    "The West has destroyed itself by the focus on the individual, and that is changing."

    First, tens of millions of Americans do not view themselves as "The West" or "Westerners"; they refer to themselves as Americans or citizens of the United States. Likewise, Europeans tend to reference themselves as "English", or "French", or "Italian".

    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.

    Third, you are correct in that increasing numbers of people like yourself, through social media, are virtue signaling the "changes" in the world you and your ilk consider to be frightening. Feel free to initiate your own brand of reforms, and face a lightening rod of criticism and revulsion.

    "Yes, the cucks love “muh freedom” and “muh equality” but they do that because this is the historical trend in politics, toward the Left."

    First, the term "cuck" is devoid of any meaning. It is for the intellectual sterile. Are you that impotent?

    Second, the historical trend in politics for centuries has been about freedom and equality.

    "We The People are idiots, as the past 200 years of democracy in America has shown us."

    The only idiot is you.

    "Fascist? I doubt it; you can read about my ideas in the post named “Ult Right.”

    There is no doubt you are Fascist. You once said your ideal American society would be a "network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land...Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

    Your desire to install by force a Christian monarchy and/or aristocracy, with patriarchal and social hierarchal underpinnings, is something that most Americans, regardless of race, creed, or religion, would violently oppose.

    What are the inherent problems with creating and implementing this new system? Who would consist of this monarchy and/or aristocracy? Who decides what sect of Christianity (e.g. fundamentalist, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist) would be “required”? How would atheists be dealt with? How would citizens be able to redress their grievances? How would dissent be dealt with by this new "elite"?

    Furthermore, how does one recognize “mental defectives”? What are the metrics involved? Who are deemed to be the “kings” and “lords”? Where is this location of exiles? What would be the response of “leaders” to the exiles if they opposed their designation?

    And, finally, are you an aristocrat? Is your partner in crime Mark Citadel? Why ought "We The People" be coerced to kow tow to your whims?

    You sell your wares from a philosophical point of view. But you rarely emphasis the practicality of NRx. Offer us specifics in how and why people ought to come into your camp from a realistic standpoint. Why should "We The People" forgo our liberty and be autocratically governed by elites consisting of a monarch and/or an aristocracy? Why should "We The People" submit to your brand of religion, to what amounts to orthodoxy?

    More questions than there are answers to this deranged proposal, which strips away at the liberty that it reportedly protects and inherently creates the same problems that it supposedly solves.

    Does you even fathom that your philosophy is rooted in your own brand of thought control? Delicious irony.

    You once said your ideal American society would be a “network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land…Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

    This is not fascism; it is escape from modernity. Anything else puts us right back to the same place we are now, which is as a failed state.

    Americans — what does this term even mean? — may consider themselves lots of things. If America has a future, it is as a Western European nation, as it was at its founding.

    Control is the opposite of leadership. Leadership seeks what is real; control seeks what is unreal and uses it to enforce more control.

    Democracy is just one of its forms.

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    "This is not fascism; it is escape from modernity."

    That is patently false. You yourself use the tools of technology to further your cause as well as live a comfortable lifestyle. You have yet to forsworn materialism in your own life, you hypocrite.

    "Anything else puts us right back to the same place we are now, which is as a failed state."

    You base your arguments routinely on false premises. You already have a belief as to what constitutes a failed state--any and all dissent to your thought process is automatically cast aside.
    Because midwits.

    "Americans — what does this term even mean? — may consider themselves lots of things. If America has a future, it is as a Western European nation, as it was at its founding."

    You assume that Americans is devoid of any and all substance and meaning. Moreover, America's future is predicated on its current and future generations navigating its course. Nations morph. Nations change. Sometimes for the better. Sometimes for the worse. Your virtue signaling is not going to bring back those halcyon days of Western European dominance.

    "Control is the opposite of leadership. Leadership seeks what is real; control seeks what is unreal and uses it to enforce more control."

    Leadership brings about control. Control leads to leadership. You seek as a leader of a movement to control people's lives for their own good.

    "Democracy is just one of its forms."

    It is the people who run a government and how they run it that determines its effectiveness or lack thereof, not the form of government, you sophist.

    Now, I submitted several questions that require thoughtful consideration on your part. It is other than surprising that you neglect to respond to them. You claim to be an intellectual. Why not wax philosophy here...

    What are the inherent problems with creating and implementing this new system (monarchial form of government)? Who would consist of this monarchy and/or aristocracy? Who decides what sect of Christianity (e.g. fundamentalist, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist) would be “required”? How would atheists be dealt with? How would citizens be able to redress their grievances? How would dissent be dealt with by this new “elite”?

    Furthermore, how does one recognize “mental defectives”? What are the metrics involved? Who are deemed to be the “kings” and “lords”? Where is this location of exiles? What would be the response of “leaders” to the exiles if they opposed their designation?

    And, finally, are you an aristocrat? Is your partner in crime Mark Citadel? Why ought “We The People” be coerced to kow tow to your whims?
  170. @Mao Cheng Ji

    Second, the focus of the individual has been the linchpin in the development of humanity; it has led to inventions, intellectual achievements, and philosophies.
     
    I think there can be 'too much focus of the individual'. Individualism, consumerism, Ayn Rand-style shit (IQ-idolatry is the same sort of thing).

    And the backlash to 'too much focus of the individual' can take different forms, some of them highly unpleasant, like the one we observe here.

    Balance, man. Too much of anything is poison.

    I think there can be ‘too much focus of the individual’. Individualism, consumerism, Ayn Rand-style shit (IQ-idolatry is the same sort of thing).

    I agree, although IQ is really important. The right answer is to recognize that individualism as a philosophy is broken, and that we need another philosophy, not to try to enforce anti-individualism with rules and “incentives.”

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  171. Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens


    You once said your ideal American society would be a “network of kings who collaborate to rule under an Emperor who wages war, with a mesh of lesser aristocracy under that on down to lords at the local level who own most of the land…Most land would remain in its natural state, owned by the lords who alone could hunt on it, and mental defectives — you would recognize these as armchair neurotics, religious fanatics, liberals, criminals, solipsists, the insane and the retarded — would be exiled.”

     

    This is not fascism; it is escape from modernity. Anything else puts us right back to the same place we are now, which is as a failed state.

    Americans -- what does this term even mean? -- may consider themselves lots of things. If America has a future, it is as a Western European nation, as it was at its founding.

    Control is the opposite of leadership. Leadership seeks what is real; control seeks what is unreal and uses it to enforce more control.

    Democracy is just one of its forms.

    “This is not fascism; it is escape from modernity.”

    That is patently false. You yourself use the tools of technology to further your cause as well as live a comfortable lifestyle. You have yet to forsworn materialism in your own life, you hypocrite.

    “Anything else puts us right back to the same place we are now, which is as a failed state.”

    You base your arguments routinely on false premises. You already have a belief as to what constitutes a failed state–any and all dissent to your thought process is automatically cast aside.
    Because midwits.

    “Americans — what does this term even mean? — may consider themselves lots of things. If America has a future, it is as a Western European nation, as it was at its founding.”

    You assume that Americans is devoid of any and all substance and meaning. Moreover, America’s future is predicated on its current and future generations navigating its course. Nations morph. Nations change. Sometimes for the better. Sometimes for the worse. Your virtue signaling is not going to bring back those halcyon days of Western European dominance.

    “Control is the opposite of leadership. Leadership seeks what is real; control seeks what is unreal and uses it to enforce more control.”

    Leadership brings about control. Control leads to leadership. You seek as a leader of a movement to control people’s lives for their own good.

    “Democracy is just one of its forms.”

    It is the people who run a government and how they run it that determines its effectiveness or lack thereof, not the form of government, you sophist.

    Now, I submitted several questions that require thoughtful consideration on your part. It is other than surprising that you neglect to respond to them. You claim to be an intellectual. Why not wax philosophy here…

    What are the inherent problems with creating and implementing this new system (monarchial form of government)? Who would consist of this monarchy and/or aristocracy? Who decides what sect of Christianity (e.g. fundamentalist, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist) would be “required”? How would atheists be dealt with? How would citizens be able to redress their grievances? How would dissent be dealt with by this new “elite”?

    Furthermore, how does one recognize “mental defectives”? What are the metrics involved? Who are deemed to be the “kings” and “lords”? Where is this location of exiles? What would be the response of “leaders” to the exiles if they opposed their designation?

    And, finally, are you an aristocrat? Is your partner in crime Mark Citadel? Why ought “We The People” be coerced to kow tow to your whims?

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  172. You yourself use the tools of technology to further your cause as well as live a comfortable lifestyle. You have yet to forsworn materialism in your own life, you hypocrite.

    Modernity is the era that began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking, or egalitarianism. Technology is another issue.

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    "Modernity is the era that began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking, or egalitarianism. Technology is another issue."

    Modernity began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking AND the Industrial Revolution. In other words, modernity is both a intellectual and technological phenomenon.
  173. @Anonymous
    And you can go back to the Caucasus mountains, since you're Caucasian. Or since you're Christian, go back to the Middle East, which is where your savior and religion come from.

    So saith the “1/2 ethnically Jewish Anonymous.” I recall a comment you made to be me concerning Derbyshire. It was about an article Derb wrote about Macron’s older wife. I said that at least his wife was white and not Asian like Derbyshire’s China woman. You told me to layoff Derb and his Chinese import. Jewish Sinophilia is well known. Marc Zuckerberg and Prissy Chan are the primary example.

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  174. @Hans Zandvliet
    Hello Attilathehen,

    I checked the IQ website you referred to (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country) and it mentions a Bolivian IQ of 87 indeed. This convinced me that you did not necessarily mean to insult Bolivians, so I’ll take you follow up seriously (long enough to be taken seriously anyway).
    First I’d like to comment on the Bolivian IQ issue. I don’t know how those IQ numbers of all countries in the world have been determined, but I feel highly suspicious about them. As far as I know, the IQ (Intelligence Quotient) of a person is defined as the quotient of the intelligence of this person and the average intelligence of human beings. The difficulty, of course, is how to measure this intelligence. Many kinds of tests have been developed and the amount of tests already indicates how highly contested this issue is. Just to mention a few issues (though I’m no expert at all on this subject, I happen to have learned a few things about it, out of personal curiosity):
    • How to distinguish between acquired knowledge and intelligence? An IQ-test should be designed in such a way that it wouldn’t matter to test an illiterate or a Harvard professor. After all, one might be extremely bright in spite of never having had the chance to study (a common circumstance in poor countries and Bolivia has always been the poorest country of South-America). Talking about a diversity of people ranging from the last nomadic tribes in the last remaining tropical forests and arctic tundras, all the way to the Harvard professor I already mentioned, this is obviously a very tall (if not impossible) order.
    • Developers of IQ-tests have come across the most unexpected biases, based on cultural, linguistic, etc. differences. A well-known example is that people familiar with a hieroglyphic script (like China and Japan) are much better at solving IQ-questions based on geometry. Another one is that various African tribes don’t fall into the trap of visual deceptions based on the 2D perspective of 3D rectangular shapes (the kind of geometric images with the question: “Which line is longer?”), because they live in the wild and in round huts so their eyes have never been conditioned to the effects of perspective of rectangular shapes.
    These few examples should serve to realize how unreliable IQ-tests can be. They may be fairly accurate to compare western people to a western average, but they can fail miserably under non-western circumstances. So I remain highly sceptical about the data of the website you mentioned.
    To determine the IQ of a person, his/her (somehow measured) intelligence is divided by the average intelligence (the denominator of the quotient on which the IQ is based). That’s why I could state with absolute certainty, that the average IQ of Bolivians (or Christians, or any large group of people) is exactly 100: the average Bolivian IQ, divided by the average Bolivian IQ, (equals 1) multiplied by 100.
    I presume that there is no difference of IQ between the many peoples and nations of our world, until proven otherwise. There might be differences (who knows?), but to calibrate IQ-tests for cultural, etc. differences is very complicated.
    The IQ of persons (estimating me at “well over 115”) and peoples (estimating Bolivians at just 87) seems to be very important to you, but to me, for various reasons, not that much. Poor and illiterate people may be smart and may have a rich and fulfilling social life (people that I have often met in Bolivia and who have impressed me more than most western intellectuals), while rich and highly educated people may be lonely robots dragging themselves from one day to the next with antidepressants.

    As for myself, I was married to a Bolivian woman. But we divorced recently and now I live on my own in this peasant community in the Amazonian foothills of the Bolivian Andes.
    Bolivians, as a remnant of the Spanish colonial era, are mostly catholic. However, strong pre-Colombian pagan beliefs and rituals still remain (which I appreciate highly!): the reverence of the traditional life-giving goddess Pachamama (many people still bring her fire offerings every first Friday of the month and every Friday of August, August being the month of Pachamama).
    When my President Evo Morales got inaugurated, those rituals and offerings to Pachamama were performed just as well. Without them, he would have been just another gringo president; after them he became OUR OWN President (by the way, I don’t always agree with what he does and sometimes he does [in my eyes] plain stupid things, but Evo is OUR President and he’s a whole lot better than just about any previous Bolivian president and any contemporary candidate).
    Surely Evo promotes the coca leaf (for traditional uses and non-cocaine alternatives): before he became President, he was the leader of the coca growers’ union (so what do you expect?)! Evo doesn’t promote cocaine, but he doesn’t criminalize coca-growing peasants either. Evo is looking for non-cocaine alternatives.
    Those peasants don’t have anything to do with the drug trade at all. They just sell their coca crop to the highest bidder and (due to the tremendous prices of cocaine in western contries) coca simply became the most profitable crop to grow (who’s to blame: the Bolivian peasant, barely able to feed and clothe his family?)
    I chew coca leaves myself: daily, practically all day (as is my habit for over a decade now)! I chew about half a pound (a quarter of a kilo) of coca leaves each week. Do you know how much coca leave it takes to produce one gram of cocaine? About 5 kg (10 lb)! This means that me chewing coca leaves (at a rate of half a pound per week), it would take me (10 lb / 0.5 lb/week =) 20 weeks to consume the equivalent of one gram of cocaine. This goes to make clear that chewing coca leaves (a South-American tradition for at least 3,000 years, according to archaeological finds) has about as much to do with snorting cocaine, as drinking a pint of beer instead of a pint of pure (96%) alcohol.
    Finally, I don’t know exactly what you mean with a “cuck Caucasian Christian male”. First, I couldn’t find the adjective “cuck” in any dictionary. And second, I’m not a Christian at all, but a convinced atheist However, rubbing two of my brain cells together, yes, I can see and I agree with Steven’s point that any secular legislation is a poor anchor for universal human rights and moral standards (nowadays, corporations like Monsanto, Shell and Microsoft, can just buy and sell those rights [by buying the necessary politicians, which is common practice already], so we’ve lost our main anchor!).
    On a personal level, I don’t see myself returning to the holy mother church ever again (though I highly appreciated Steven’s points of view!). However, on a societal level I do understand that religion still has an important part to play (as our last bulwark against naked, all devouring, capitalist greed). Maybe, someday, hopefully, we may free ourselves from the shackles of the way we measure our economic progress: the pathetically one-dimensional ruler of GDP, which forces all of us to believe that money is the only thing that matters. Until then (and I say this as a convinced atheist!), religion (any kind of religion for any corner of the world) might still save humanity from utter self-destruction. With that I don’t convert myself again to any kind of religion. I just repeat Seneca’s statement in my initial comment to Steven’s essay (while thinking as a politician) that “god is useful”.

    A “cuck” is a spineless man. It is the short version of the word cuckold.

    So sad that you left the West. But this is what happens when a man leaves his race/religion behind. I will assume that your Bolivian wife was more Amerindian than high-caste Euromestizo or white. This is shown in describing Evo Morales as our president. Your atheism is not a problem because you do respect Christianity. Unfortunately, you have decided to cast your lot with an inferior third world, pagan nation. Also, chewing cocoa leaves is not helping you.

    I don’t blame you for not wanting to return to the mother church. Like I said, I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. A new church will need to be created. Christianity is the best religion for the Western mind, soul. I am still a Christian but with no church.

    IQ determines everything. Only people with IQs of 90+ can create functioning, civil societies. You are lucky that you live in a country with a drugged population too listless from the drugs to cause you any physical harm.

    This is not the case in countries with blacks/Muslims or other types of Asians.

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    Thanks for explaining what "cuck" means.
    For the rest, what can I say? To try to counter all your ignorant and racist insults, I think, would be a waste of time.
    After all (and let that be my summerized counter), the less a self-righteous person actually knows, the more convinced (s)he is of being and knowing everything better.
    By contrast, the more you know, the more you become aware of the ocean of knowledge that you still DON'T know and that what you DO know counts for little more than a collection of shells found on her shores (to paraphraze Einstein). Also, the more you know, the less space remains to uphold any self-righteous opinions.
    I guess, you've got a long road ahead of you, in case you choose to really want to know, but I have little illusions about your choice.
  175. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @iffen
    iffen, you can accompany Mr. Chieh in his passage back to China

    Are you buying the tickets?

    I've always wanted to see a great civilization that has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years up close and in person.

    If you want to do it on the cheap, take a bus trip to Mexico City.

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  176. Saxon says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    I can not over-emphasize the irrelevancy of IQ test score psychometrics to the Alt Right political-policy agenda which is a revolt against post-1965 genocidal race-replacement immigration policy.

    All Jared Taylor managed to do with his obssession with IQ test score psychometrics is to completely sidetrack a long overdue laser-beam like focus on Asian "Americans" participation in the economic and racial genocide of The Historic Native Born White Working Class Majority.

    The only reason to talk about IQ at all is to illustrate that racial differences do indeed exist contra to the blank slate ideologists and their indoctrinees.

    Whether we are better or worse than any other group is not the relevant sticking point that a genocide is occurring and that we are a distinct population and not some fungible cog you can replace with whoever you want. Even the fact that the society obviously won’t be or operate the same if we’re gone is irrelevant to the argument which itself has moral characteristics.

    Ultimately though the enemy doesn’t care about morals or arguments or anything other than getting what they want, which is why certain tactics are employed and why the end goal is spreading the ideas and getting people awakened and acutely aware as to what is going on while making them prepared at least mentally for certain eventualities i.e. the possibility this ends in actual wars, which it probably will seeing the inertia of these disastrous policies.

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  177. Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens


    You yourself use the tools of technology to further your cause as well as live a comfortable lifestyle. You have yet to forsworn materialism in your own life, you hypocrite.

     

    Modernity is the era that began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking, or egalitarianism. Technology is another issue.

    “Modernity is the era that began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking, or egalitarianism. Technology is another issue.”

    Modernity began with Enlightenment/Renaissance thinking AND the Industrial Revolution. In other words, modernity is both a intellectual and technological phenomenon.

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  178. @attilathehen
    A "cuck" is a spineless man. It is the short version of the word cuckold.

    So sad that you left the West. But this is what happens when a man leaves his race/religion behind. I will assume that your Bolivian wife was more Amerindian than high-caste Euromestizo or white. This is shown in describing Evo Morales as our president. Your atheism is not a problem because you do respect Christianity. Unfortunately, you have decided to cast your lot with an inferior third world, pagan nation. Also, chewing cocoa leaves is not helping you.

    I don't blame you for not wanting to return to the mother church. Like I said, I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. A new church will need to be created. Christianity is the best religion for the Western mind, soul. I am still a Christian but with no church.

    IQ determines everything. Only people with IQs of 90+ can create functioning, civil societies. You are lucky that you live in a country with a drugged population too listless from the drugs to cause you any physical harm.

    This is not the case in countries with blacks/Muslims or other types of Asians.

    Thanks for explaining what “cuck” means.
    For the rest, what can I say? To try to counter all your ignorant and racist insults, I think, would be a waste of time.
    After all (and let that be my summerized counter), the less a self-righteous person actually knows, the more convinced (s)he is of being and knowing everything better.
    By contrast, the more you know, the more you become aware of the ocean of knowledge that you still DON’T know and that what you DO know counts for little more than a collection of shells found on her shores (to paraphraze Einstein). Also, the more you know, the less space remains to uphold any self-righteous opinions.
    I guess, you’ve got a long road ahead of you, in case you choose to really want to know, but I have little illusions about your choice.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    Racist??? I mention facts, figures and this is your comeback. I live in an area "vibrating" with "diversity." Your response is a reflection of your choices in life. Your Bolivian chica was a bad choice, hence your present situation. If she had had enough intelligence, she would have wanted to move to the Netherlands to access Europe, a better life, an evolutionary step up. But unfortunately you chose the downward path of evolution and lowered yourself to her level and her nation. That's why I surmise she was Amerindian instead of a high-caste Euromestiza. So sad. You are a warning to others who read this website. I hope your sad outcome will help others not to make such choices.
  179. @Hans Zandvliet
    Thanks for explaining what "cuck" means.
    For the rest, what can I say? To try to counter all your ignorant and racist insults, I think, would be a waste of time.
    After all (and let that be my summerized counter), the less a self-righteous person actually knows, the more convinced (s)he is of being and knowing everything better.
    By contrast, the more you know, the more you become aware of the ocean of knowledge that you still DON'T know and that what you DO know counts for little more than a collection of shells found on her shores (to paraphraze Einstein). Also, the more you know, the less space remains to uphold any self-righteous opinions.
    I guess, you've got a long road ahead of you, in case you choose to really want to know, but I have little illusions about your choice.

    Racist??? I mention facts, figures and this is your comeback. I live in an area “vibrating” with “diversity.” Your response is a reflection of your choices in life. Your Bolivian chica was a bad choice, hence your present situation. If she had had enough intelligence, she would have wanted to move to the Netherlands to access Europe, a better life, an evolutionary step up. But unfortunately you chose the downward path of evolution and lowered yourself to her level and her nation. That’s why I surmise she was Amerindian instead of a high-caste Euromestiza. So sad. You are a warning to others who read this website. I hope your sad outcome will help others not to make such choices.

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    • Replies: @Hans Zandvliet
    Racist, yes!!! And egregiously self-righteous at that!!! But the two go hand in hand, you see, so that's no surprise at all to me, just as I stated in my previous reply to you.
    I guess you’re just a paid-for troll, so why should I even bother to reply to your verbal vomit.
    Bye bye: I won't even inquire about your next verbal vomit!
  180. @attilathehen
    Racist??? I mention facts, figures and this is your comeback. I live in an area "vibrating" with "diversity." Your response is a reflection of your choices in life. Your Bolivian chica was a bad choice, hence your present situation. If she had had enough intelligence, she would have wanted to move to the Netherlands to access Europe, a better life, an evolutionary step up. But unfortunately you chose the downward path of evolution and lowered yourself to her level and her nation. That's why I surmise she was Amerindian instead of a high-caste Euromestiza. So sad. You are a warning to others who read this website. I hope your sad outcome will help others not to make such choices.

    Racist, yes!!! And egregiously self-righteous at that!!! But the two go hand in hand, you see, so that’s no surprise at all to me, just as I stated in my previous reply to you.
    I guess you’re just a paid-for troll, so why should I even bother to reply to your verbal vomit.
    Bye bye: I won’t even inquire about your next verbal vomit!

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Hans,

    Much enjoyed your perspective and opening up on your life experience- thanks. I hope you and your fellow Bolivians have good times ahead - and maybe a new love is in the future...sorry for sounding like a fortune cookie.

    That quote about recognizing how little knowledge one has reminded me of a very similar quote by Rumi (ra).

    Peace.
  181. Talha says:
    @Hans Zandvliet
    Racist, yes!!! And egregiously self-righteous at that!!! But the two go hand in hand, you see, so that's no surprise at all to me, just as I stated in my previous reply to you.
    I guess you’re just a paid-for troll, so why should I even bother to reply to your verbal vomit.
    Bye bye: I won't even inquire about your next verbal vomit!

    Hey Hans,

    Much enjoyed your perspective and opening up on your life experience- thanks. I hope you and your fellow Bolivians have good times ahead – and maybe a new love is in the future…sorry for sounding like a fortune cookie.

    That quote about recognizing how little knowledge one has reminded me of a very similar quote by Rumi (ra).

    Peace.

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