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The latest Steven Spielberg film, The Pentagon Papers, made me wonder about the historical significance of this glorious episode of whistleblowing and victorious struggle for freedom of the press. The leaking and publishing in 1971, by the New York Times then the Washington Post, of excerpts from this 7000-page classified report on the Vietnam War (requested by Robert McNamara before leaving the Department of Defense in 1967) is comparable to the exposure by the same Washington Post of the Watergate scandal one year later. The Watergate scandal passes today as evidence of the independence of the American media as a necessary counter-power against government abuses. But in reality, it simply illustrates the increasing involvement of the media in deep political warfare. Likewise we must go beyond the public and Spielbergian narratives on the Pentagon Papers to understand what was really at stake. In both scandals, I believe the leadership of both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the two biggest propaganda machines in the US, were acting not only in the service of truth, but also in service of a power deeper than the deep state they were exposing. After all, there are so many truths to choose from to make the front pages. And in matters of foreign policy, many suspect that the final choice is often determined by the ultimate question: Is it good for Israel?

In this article, I am not going to demonstrate, but simply hypothesize, that the leaking and revelation of the Pentagon Papers, and more broadly the role of the media establishment in the anti-Vietnam movement, were in the interest of Israel. At that moment Israel was starting to face a unified international front against its illegal occupation. There was a real threat that the US would force Israel to withdraw, as required by UN Resolution 242. But I will go further and suggest that the Vietnam War itself, not just the protest against it, served the interests of Israel, regardless of other factors that motivated it. There is, of course, no contradiction between these two theses, since the anti-Vietnam-war movement presupposes the Vietnam war. Significantly, until around 1969, the Washington Post’s editorials were unequivocally pro-war.

Johnson and the Vietnam War

As I wrote in JFK-9/11 and again in From Yahweh to Zion, if John Kennedy had not been assassinated, the very expression “Vietnam War” would not exist in school textbooks. Under his presidency, US military deployment amounted officially to a mere 15,000 “military advisors.” At the end of 1963, Kennedy had taken the decision to withdraw from Vietnam. On November 11, he signed directive NSAM-263 for the removal of “1,000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963,” in anticipation for withdrawing “by the end of 1965 […] the bulk of U.S. personnel.”[1]On JFK Library, http://www.jfklibrary.org/ On November 21, the day before his fatal visit to Texas, he expressed his resolution to his assistant press secretary Malcolm Kilduff, after reading a report on the latest casualties: “After I come back from Texas, that’s going to change. There’s no reason for us to lose another man over there. Vietnam is not worth another American life.”[2]Phillip Nelson, LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination, XLibris, 2010, p. 638.

But on November 26, the day after Kennedy’s funeral, Johnson buried NSAM-263 and replaced it with NSAM-273, which required the military to develop a plan “for the United States to begin carrying the war north,” including “different levels of possible increased activity,” and “military operations up to a line up to 50 kilometers inside Laos”—which violated the 1962 Geneva Accords on the neutrality of Laos.[3]LBJ Library: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/n...3.asp. Johnson’s decision regarding Vietnam was a clear betrayal of Kennedy’s earlier policy, and the amazing expediency of his change of policy suggests premeditation. All ambiguities cleverly laid out in NSAM-273 would be lifted by another memo signed on January, 1964 by General Maxwell Taylor, which said: “National Security Action Memorandum n° 273 makes clear the resolve of the President to ensure victory over the externally directed and supported communist insurgency in South Vietnam […]. To do this, we must prepare for whatever level of activity may be required.” It is no longer a question of stopping the war, but rather winnings at any cost. Robert McNamara, continuing as Secretary of Defense, acceded to Johnson’s agenda, recommending the mobilization of 50,000 soldiers and a program of “graduated overt military pressure” against North Vietnam, a policy which Johnson rubberstamped in March 1964 by memorandum NSAM-288.[4]LBJ Library: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/n...88.asp

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A suitable pretext was still needed for aggression. It came in Gulf of Tonkin on the 2nd and 4th of August 1964, when torpedoes were allegedly launched by the North Vietnamese against American destroyers. It is now known that the second attack, if not the first, was imaginary, made up out of falsified NSA data.[5]Scott Shane, “Vietnam Study, Casting Doubts, Remain Secret”, New York Times, October 31, 2005: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/politics/31war.ht...;_r=0. With that faked event, Johnson could announce on national television a “retaliatory” bombing of the North Vietnamese navy, and push through Congress on August 7, 1964, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which gave him full powers to send up to 500,000 soldiers into North Vietnam. With that, Johnson plunged the Vietnamese people into a decade of unspeakable suffering, taking the lives of more than a million civilians. From 1965 to 1968, as part of Operation Rolling Thunder, 643,000 tons of bombs were dropped—three times more than during the entire Second World War—on a mostly rural country, and about 500,000 American soldiers were sent to Vietnam, where 50,000 perished. 19 million gallons of toxic chemicals were sprayed from the air to destroy approximately 40 percent of the South’s forests, one-third of its valuable mangrove swamps, and large areas of prime cropland. The chemicals are also suspected of causing widespread health problems, including cancer and birth defects. An estimated 3.5 million Vietnamese were killed directly in the war. One-third of the South’s population became “internal refugees”, their way of life destroyed, forced to live for years in the misery of refugee camps and overfull cities, with prostitution and other social problems as a result. Since the war ended for the US in 1975, nearly 40,000 Vietnamese have been killed by residual explosives, including an estimated 3.5 million land mines. Many more have been crippled for life. A decade after the war, over 13 percent of Vietnam’s population were still suffering from some war-related injury.[6]Figures taken from “Vietnam Holocaust, 140 years of pillage, slaughter & persecution,” ã Föreningen Levande Framtid, Sweden, 2001: http://www.nnn.se/vietnam/holocaust.pdf

Johnson and the Six Day War

It was during that period that Israel chose to launch its operation to annex Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian territories, by creating the illusion that it was acting in self-defense. Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7]State Department Archive: http://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/johnsonlb/xix /28057.htm. Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.

Four days after the start of the Israeli attack, Nasser accepted the ceasefire request from the UN Security Council. It was too soon for Israel, which had not yet achieved all its objectives. It was then that, on June 8, 1967, the USS Liberty, an unarmed NSA spy ship, was bombed, strafed, and torpedoed for 75 minutes by Israeli Mirage jets and torpedo boats. The Israelis obviously intended to sink it without leaving any survivors (even the lifeboats were machine-gunned), while Johnson personally prohibited the nearby Sixth Fleet from coming to its rescue. Had the USS Liberty been successfully sunk, the attack would have been blamed on the Egyptians, and would have given Johnson the pretext to intervene militarily alongside Israel, probably forcing the USSR to go to war.[8]Robert Allen, Beyond Treason: Reflections on the Cover-up of the June 1967 Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty, an American Spy Ship, CreateSpace, 2012.

But it failed. The affair was successfully smothered by a commission of inquiry headed by Admiral John Sidney McCain II (father of Arizona Senator John McCain III). The survivors received a medal in an unadvertised ceremony, accompanied by a formal order never to mention the incident. Only recently have some broken the silence.[9]Watch the 2014 Al-Jazeera documentary The Day Israel Attacked America. Johnson accepted Israel’s spurious “targeting error” explanation, and rewarded the unprovoked attack by lifting the embargo on the sale of offensive military equipment to Israel.

The USS Liberty failed false flag attack is proof of Johnson’s secret complicity with Israel, and of his high treason against the country he had sworn to protect. But Johnson had in fact always been Israel’s man. As early as 1948, his campaign for a Senate seat had been financed by Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated and financial godfather of Israel’s atomic bomb.[10]Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 250. In 2013, the Associated Press reported on newly released tapes from Johnson’s White House office showing LBJ’s “personal and often emotional connection to Israel.” The tapes showed that during the Johnson presidency, “the United States became Israel’s chief diplomatic ally and primary arms supplier.” An article from the 5 Towns Jewish Times “Our First Jewish President Lyndon Johnson?” recalls Johnson’s continuous support of Jews and Israel in the 1940s and 50s, and concludes: “President Johnson firmly pointed American policy in a pro-Israel direction.” The article also mentions that, “research into Johnson’s personal history indicates that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family. His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organization of America.” And, in an additional note: “The facts indicate that both of Lyndon Johnson’s great-grandparents, on the maternal side, were Jewish. […] The line of Jewish mothers can be traced back three generations in Lyndon Johnson’s family tree. There is little doubt that he was Jewish.”[11]Morris Smith, “Our First Jewish President Lyndon Johnson? – an update!!,” 5 Towns Jewish Times, April 11, 2013, on 5tjt.com.

It is on record, thanks to Kennedy insider Arthur Schlesinger (A Thousand Days, 1965) that it was in fact Philip Graham and Joseph Alsop, respectively publisher and columnist of the Washington Post, both strong supporters of Israel, who convinced Kennedy to take Johnson on his ticket, in a closed door conversation.[12]Arthur Schlesinger, A Thousand Days: John Kennedy in the White House (1965), Mariner Books, 2002, p. 56. Schlesinger doesn’t reveal Graham and Alsop’s arguments, and states that Kennedy’s final decision “defies historical reconstruction”—a curious statement for a historian so well informed, which can only be explained by Schlesinger’s refusal throughout his 872 pages to come to grips with Kennedy’s Middle East policy and his battle with Zionism. Alan Hart has convincingly filled in the blanks: both Graham and Alsop were strongly pro-Israel as well as pro-Johnson, and both could exert a huge influence on public opinion. So “Kennedy was forced by Israel’s supporters to take Johnson as his vice-presidential running mate.”[13]Alan Hart, Zionism, vol. 2: op. cit., p. 257.

The Vietnam Holocaust

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Is there a connection between those two wars, each waged or supported by Lyndon Johnson? In my book JFK-9/11, I suggested that Johnson escalated the Vietnam War as a substitute for the invasion of Cuba that the CIA and Pentagon hawks involved in the plot to assassinate JFK had been led to believe that they could start by blaming the assassination on a communist plot. “In lieu of invasion,” I wrote, “Johnson offered to the generals the Vietnam War.” That was a grossly insufficient explanation. There is little evidence that Pentagon generals, let alone CIA officers, needed a war, any war, at all cost. But I could think of no other explanation, short of the unlimited greed of war profiteers, of whom Johnson was a highly representative specimen. (In the weeks preceding the Kennedy assassination, he had invested in the Dallas aircraft manufacturer Ling-Temco-Vought, which was to become one of the Pentagon’s biggest arms suppliers for the Vietnam War.[14]Joan Mellen, A Farewell to Justice, Potomac Books, 2007. Johnson also owned stocks in Bell Helicopter, to which he transferred illegally a contract for 220 helicopters that had been signed in 1963 with its rival Kaman Aircraft.[15]Charles Kaman, “Politics had reared its ugly head in a very certain way,” on http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=633)

Only recently did the idea come to me of a hidden link between the Vietnam War and the Six-Day War. I could not conceive it before because I had not yet taken the full measure of the perversity of the Israeli leadership, whose collective psychopathy resonated deeply with Johnson’s personal psychopathy. Having now studied the deep thinking of those ultra-Machiavellian crypto-Likudniks whom we call neoconservatives, I have acquired the conviction that the tragedy of the world for the last hundred years is only comprehensible once we admit that Israel (before and after 1947) acts on the international scene in a biblical way, that is, with the same indifference and cruelty toward non-Jewish nations that Yahweh demanded of his people in the Bible. In their eyes, these populations are no more worthy than livestock, and their suffering is irrelevant (unless, of course, it can be exploited). There is absolutely no moral limit to the determination of Israel to pave its way toward hegemony through the ruin of whole nations. Absolutely none. This is what I meant when calling Israel the “psychopathic nation”.

And so my hypothesis is that one of the purposes of the Vietnam War desired by Johnson and his masters was to create a diversion while Israel was engaging in the decisive stage of its expansion. Let us imagine for a moment that there had been no Vietnam War, in 1967 and thereafter, to mobilize Americans’ limited attention on world affairs, and to divert their indignation. Could the Washington Post and the New York Times have managed to hide from the public the scandal of that war of aggression and illegal annexation? Even more importantly, Israel’s strategists surely understood that the legitimacy of the US state to condemn Israel’s crimes would be much diminished if the US could be blamed for even worse crimes.

French President Charles De Gaulle actually understood that the Vietnam War was preventing a peaceful solution in Palestine. In a press conference on November 27, 1967, after condemning Israel’s aggression and famously qualifying the Jews as “an elite people, self-confident and dominating,” he called for the four great powers to enforce an international settlement on the basis of Israel’s withdrawal from the occupied territories, and added:

“But one cannot see how such an agreement could be reached as long as one of the greatest among the four will not withdraw from the heinous war that they are waging elsewhere. Without the tragedy of Vietnam, the conflict between Israel and the Arabs would not have become what it has become. And if South-East Asia could experience a renewal of peace, the Middle-East would also find its way to peace, in the climate of détente which would follow such an event.”[16]Video on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03if1QnA5MI ; text on http://akadem.org/medias/documents/3-conference-deg...le.pdf

Soon after that press conference, De Gaulle’s government became the target of a major student protest that culminated in May 1968, ultimately forcing De Gaulle to resign. These students, led by predominantly Jewish Trotskyist activists,[17]On the Jewish-led student uprising in Paris in 1968, read Yair Auron, Les Juifs d’extrême gauche en Mai 68, Albin Michel, 1998. were not protesting against the US aggression against Vietnam, nor against Israel’s aggression against its Arab neighbors, but against bourgeois society.

It is not an exaggeration to qualify the Vietnam War as a “holocaust”, as did the 2008 documentary film Vietnam: American Holocaust.[18]Watch on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNb1uUlG2QI . In the Bible, a holocaust designates an animal offering completely consumed by fire, producing an “enjoyable smell” for Yahweh (Genesis 8:20-21; Exodus 29:25). According to the Book of Ezra, a gigantic holocaust was offered “to the God of Israel who resides in Jerusalem” by the Judeo-Babylonians who (re)colonized Palestine, in preparation for the (re)building of the Temple (7:12–15).

Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II. Unless we consider that Hitler was working for the glory of Yahweh, that expression seems absurd. Surely, the anti-Zionist rabbi Moshe Shonfeld believes that “The Zionist leaders saw the spilt Jewish blood of the Holocaust as grease for the wheels of the Jewish national state.”[19]Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld, Holocaust Victims Accuse: Documents and Testimony of Jewish War Criminals, Bnei Yeshivos, 1977 (http://netureikartaru.com/Holocaust_Victims_Accuse.pdf), pp. 28, 24. But the term logically applies much better to the Vietnam War if we consider that by focusing the attention of the American public, then the protests of American youths and liberal intellectuals, it left the field wide open for Israel’s conquest of Palestinian, Egyptian, and Syrian territories. After all, the Vietnamese plight was greater than the Palestinians’. This, I believe, provides a plausible answer to the question: Why did Johnson, who did not satisfy the CIA hawks on Cuba, draw the US into the Vietnam inferno? The strongest Johnson administration advocate for a deepening commitment in Vietnam was National Security Advisor Walt Rostow, whose brother Eugene was Under-Secretary of State. They happened to be sons of Jewish immigrants. The historian David Milne has called Rostow “America’s Rasputin.”

Two months after his election in 1968, Nixon secretly and illegally expanded the war into Cambodia, ordering a massive bombardment under the codename Breakfast, followed by Lunch, Dessert, Snack, Dinner and Supper—all of which led to the rise of the Khmer Rouge, an exceptionally bloody, tyrannical regime responsible for the extermination of one third of the Cambodian population. The man who pushed him in that direction was National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, also acting as Secretary of State. Like the Rostows, Kissinger happens to be Jewish.

Many of the leading figures of the anti-war movement were also Jewish. But soon after the leaking of the Pentagon Papers by Daniel Ellsberg, with the help of Anthony Russo, Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn (all Jewish by birth), other liberal Jewish intellectuals made a 180-degree turn and became leading advocate of the war: they called themselves “neoconservatives”. We have here a fine example of dialectical engineering of history: as Jewish leftists like Noam Chomsky started to protest against the war, former Jewish leftists like Irving Kristol started to protest against the protesters. Meanwhile, Israel could be pushed out of the headlines. Kristol wrote in the magazine of the American Jewish Congress in 1972 that it was necessary to fight against George McGovern’s proposal to reduce the military budget by 30 percent: “This is to drive a knife into the heart of Israel. […] Jews don’t like a big military budget, but it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States. […] American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”[20]Philip Weiss, “30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views,” May 23, 2007: http://mondoweiss.net/2007/05/30_years_ago_ne/.

Against McGovern’s demand for immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, Kristol could have added: “American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to withdraw from Vietnam, it is important to pursue the genocide of the Vietnamese, so that America’s youthful idealists will protest against their own government rather than against Israel’s violation of international law.”

References

[1] On JFK Library, http://www.jfklibrary.org/

[2] Phillip Nelson, LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination, XLibris, 2010, p. 638.

[3] LBJ Library: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/nsams/nsam273.asp.

[4] LBJ Library: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/nsams/nsam288.asp

[5] Scott Shane, “Vietnam Study, Casting Doubts, Remain Secret”, New York Times, October 31, 2005: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/politics/31war.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0.

[6] Figures taken from “Vietnam Holocaust, 140 years of pillage, slaughter & persecution,” ã Föreningen Levande Framtid, Sweden, 2001: http://www.nnn.se/vietnam/holocaust.pdf

[7] State Department Archive: http://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/frus/johnsonlb/xix /28057.htm.

[8] Robert Allen, Beyond Treason: Reflections on the Cover-up of the June 1967 Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty, an American Spy Ship, CreateSpace, 2012.

[9] Watch the 2014 Al-Jazeera documentary The Day Israel Attacked America.

[10] Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 250.

[11] Morris Smith, “Our First Jewish President Lyndon Johnson? – an update!!,” 5 Towns Jewish Times, April 11, 2013, on 5tjt.com.

[12] Arthur Schlesinger, A Thousand Days: John Kennedy in the White House (1965), Mariner Books, 2002, p. 56.

[13] Alan Hart, Zionism, vol. 2: op. cit., p. 257.

[14] Joan Mellen, A Farewell to Justice, Potomac Books, 2007.

[15] Charles Kaman, “Politics had reared its ugly head in a very certain way,” on http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=633

[16] Video on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03if1QnA5MI ; text on http://akadem.org/medias/documents/3-conference-degaulle.pdf

[17] On the Jewish-led student uprising in Paris in 1968, read Yair Auron, Les Juifs d’extrême gauche en Mai 68, Albin Michel, 1998.

[18] Watch on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNb1uUlG2QI .

[19] Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld, Holocaust Victims Accuse: Documents and Testimony of Jewish War Criminals, Bnei Yeshivos, 1977 (http://netureikartaru.com/Holocaust_Victims_Accuse.pdf), pp. 28, 24.

[20] Philip Weiss, “30 Years Ago, Neocons Were More Candid About Their Israel-Centered Views,” May 23, 2007: http://mondoweiss.net/2007/05/30_years_ago_ne/.

 
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  1. Note that “leaker” Ellsberg was a CIA agent who was never jailed. From my blog that includes links:

    Dec 2, 2010 – Thoughts on Wikileaks

    While our corporate media devotes hundreds of hours to reporting on the latest Wikileaks leak…

    There is an excellent precedence for such a huge misinformation campaign — the “Pentagon Papers”. Retired USAF Col. Fletcher Prouty revealed that the “Pentagon Papers” were a planned CIA leak to shift blame for the failed war in Vietnam from the CIA to the Pentagon. The documents were real, but only certain documents were released. Prouty wrote the other reason for this “leak” was to upset the Nixon administration, which it was trying to destabilize in hopes of ousting Nixon.

    That President was upset that the CIA refused to provide him with requested documents concerning the Bay of Pigs and the JFK assassination. Nixon also angered the “Power Elite” by withdrawing American troops from their profitable business venture in Vietnam and improving relations with Red China. Nixon was ousted with the help of covert CIA agent Bob Woodward, working undercover as a reporter at the CIA co-founded “Washington Post”. Gerald Ford became President, who just happened to be a member of the discredited Warren Commission that engineered the cover-up of the JFK assassination!

    I’m not sure if the leaker of the “Pentagon Papers”, career CIA agent Daniel Ellsberg, knew he was being used, but he was never prosecuted and allowed to retire and collect his CIA pension. Before becoming a leaker, Ellsberg (pictured) spent a few years in Vietnam working directly under the senior CIA spook there, Edward Lansdale, pictured in my Nov. 23 blog at the scene of the 1963 JFK coup in Dallas.

    Bradley Manning is a young, lowly soldier who will spend years in prison, yet Ellsberg was a senior official who knew the consequences of releasing thousands of pages of classified information. Yet he was never prosecuted AND allowed to retire and collect a government pension! No one on the American “left” questions this obvious red flag, and they celebrate Ellsberg as a hero. Ellsberg may be a great guy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he reports to the CIA in Langley regarding his insider contacts with today’s anti-war movements.

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    Interesting and plausible. Thanks!
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  2. Wally says:

    said:
    “Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II.”

    Except that the alleged ’6,000,000′ is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake “killing of Jews during World war II”.

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

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    Yup, we cannot question the holocaust and the official 9/11 story.
    , @Joe Wong
    The beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese managed to kill more than 300,000 in Nanking within few weeks just used bayonets and knives. The Jap is following codoh.com to deny their war crimes. During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, Nazi would be labeled as a laughing stock by the beastly Jap if they couldn't slaughter 6 million in more than 5 years.
    , @Pat
    So you don't believe millions of Jews were killed by the Germans? There is quite a lot of evidence. Three million were killed just in Poland.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree that things should be open to discussion and debate and if the true number is different, it should be disseminated to the public.

    To me, though, whether 6 million died or not is far less important an issue than whether we 'get' to publicly discuss such things.

    If it were acceptable for anyone and everyone to start publicly discussing such things in earnest, free from silencing gags such as losing your job or risking the safety of your family, it would open the door to discussing a great many other things. At lot hinges on how they were treated by the Nazis, it is their modern day 'Trump' card to squash any opposition or question. If that's not sacred then questions like whether they are discriminatory against Christians, Gentiles, etc. could be publicly discussed. People may well start to wonder things like, how can it be that whites writ large are so bad for having net worths higher than NAMs, when the Chosen people have net worths even higher?
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  3. Tbbh says:

    You probably could not conveive it before because it was, and is, a ludicrous stretch. Thanks for the laugh.

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  4. Tbbh says:

    BTW: The RATIONAL way to look at it was the holicaust was, and is promoted, to distract Americans from the carnage we have done, since 1945, in very much elective wars. You got your cart and horse backwards. 6 million dead jews and a holocaustmuseum works better than 20 million killed by the US since the end of WW2 and a Laos or Iraq museum.

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    • Replies: @bookish1
    The original reason for the Holocaust story was to distract from the destruction of Germany during WW2 since it was by far the biggest and most extensive human caused destruction in the history of the world. Germany looked like a lunar landscape with over 100 cities and towns destroyed and masses of old people and women and children targeted for death. They had to take our attention off that by accusing the Germans of a mass genocide of jews that really never happened. Also was the fact that the Soviet government killed millions of people and we allied with them. So we kept that information well hidden from public view.
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  5. I trust that the first efforts to demolish each “hypothesis” will not be explosive derision but carefully detailed refutations of fact and premises, with uncontestable citations.

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  6. Andy says:

    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch…

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    "The USS Liberty failed false flag attack is proof of Johnson’s secret complicity with Israel, and of his high treason against the country he had sworn to protect. But Johnson had in fact always been Israel’s man. As early as 1948, his campaign for a Senate seat had been financed by Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated and financial godfather of Israel’s atomic bomb."
    -- You may start with refuting the above monstrosities. Johnson -- and all the following presidents -- were in the pockets of Israel-firsters. Look around for the moral devastation of the US.
    , @gwynedd1
    It always is when blaming just the Jews. However they are almost always a political force , and of course from their power elite, more or less meaning that their goals are often at odd with the peace and harmony of ordinary Jews themselves, let alone everyone else. They could never do it alone.
    , @ISmellBagels
    Who is "blaming Jews for VN"? That's your straw man. You made it up He presented compelling evidence, which was not made up. Zionist hijacking of US government has been the bane of this country for decades, and still is the biggest problem.
    , @Dante Ardenz
    No stretch at all my dear ....The Jews nasty tribal God Yahweh ( See Yahweh God Of The NWO ,You Tube ) , commands it's ,his what's ,' Chosen People " ; " By deception thou shall do war ". The Jews ,secular ," Liberal " " Conservative " take all of this very seriously . Funny how the Jews ,masters of the lie ,and owners of Hollywood , pull the same false flags ,again ,and again , yet the public still falls for it ,again ,and again . From the Spainish American War , Lusitania set up , Red Line over Danzig ,Pearl Harbor ,Korean Gun Boats , Gulf Of Tonkin , through Jew worshipping Bush 2 s WMD we see it work ...." Oh no the poor Jews didn't do it ." Well they aren't " Poor " , and better watch out . They are setting up Syria with LIES about Putin / Assad with " poision gas " to begin WW3.
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  7. sarz says:

    This is a stunning discovery. Yes, of course. This is what Judaism on its own account really is. It is a warning to goys, of course, but more than that it is a disclosure to everyone of Jewish descent. This is what is lurking behind every respectable synagogue. There is no excuse for not knowing. Do not expect to be excused as an innocent if you have ever played the antisemitism game.

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    It's what all the abrahamic "religions" are about in the end. Power.
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  8. “There is little evidence that Pentagon generals, let alone CIA officers, needed a war, any war, at all cost. But I could think of no other explanation, short of the unlimited greed of war profiteers, of whom Johnson was a highly representative specimen.”

    Ask a simple question: what would happen to the American warfighting apparatus and to the MIC if, through some misfortune or oversight, a year or so were to pass without a war being fought somewhere? It’s not about the money, it’s about the culture. People might let their “Support Our Troops” bumper-stickers lapse.

    The continuous state of war is in and of itself a psyop being executed by the militaries of the world against their own peoples.

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    "People might let their “Support Our Troops” bumper-stickers lapse."
    It's all part of the packaging. I openly say that I "support our troops", but quickly add that I don't support the mission, because the death of one our soldiers, fighting someone else's war, is one too many.
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  9. Brabantian says: • Website

    Terrific piece above connecting many dots, the material on Lyndon Johnson, on Charles de Gaulle, and on the spooky Daniel Ellsberg, the alleged ‘leaker’ who along with his friend Noam Chomsky and others became dodgy ‘dissident celebrities’, united in their shilling against JFK assassination investigation, all playing along with the ‘lone gunman Oswald’ hoax.

    There are at least 6 major fake ‘leaks’ / ‘dissident heroes’ all used similar techniques … all of them CIA hoaxes and frauds … all involving prominent Jewish or Israeli figures too

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg ‘stolen’ Pentagon Papers
    1973 Watergate ‘Deep Throat’
    2010 Julian Assange ‘Wikileaks’
    2013 Edward Snowden ‘stolen’ NSA Papers
    2016 Panama Papers
    2017 Paradise Papers

    All involve CIA-backed fake ‘leakers – dissidents’ with ‘limited hang-out’ partial truth, in order to sell even bigger lies:

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg NY Times Pentagon Papers ‘stolen documents leak’ … (1) Ellsberg promoted hoax of JFK assassination ‘lone gunman, not CIA’ (2) Distracted from US Vietnam war crimes outside of ‘limited hang-out’ My Lai, focusing on Jewish ‘leaker hero’, not on brutalised Vietnamese (3) Set up meme of ‘brave, trusted’ CIA media (4) Distracted from Israeli wars and occupation of Palestine

    1973 Watergate ‘Deep Throat’ fictional leaker … (1) Set up ‘Silent Coup’ of Richard Nixon by US military Joint Chiefs & CIA (2) Pumped CIA ‘brave media’ story for Jewish WashPost ‘reporter’ Bob Woodward, who was a Navy Intel agent working for Admiral Maurer heading Joint Chiefs & running US coup d’état (3) Deepend fake ‘brave media’ meme for CIA journalists to rat-trap real dissidents, identify & destroy them

    2010 Julian Assange Wikileaks … (1) Leaks ‘selected’ & shielded Israel, with Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu & US-CIA’s Zbigniew Brzezinski both publicly admitting Assange is an intel hoax (2) Anti-9-11 truth (3) Sold intimidating ‘USA torture war crimes’ story USA enjoys spreading (4) ‘Rat trap’ for dissidents who could be killed after trusting ‘Wikileaks’ (5) Apparently not ‘living in London Ecuador Embassy’ at all, only there for photos, meetings (6) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies (7) People dead & jailed-arrested after contacting Assange & Snowden gangs, dead: Seth Rich, Peter W Smith.jailed-arrested: Reality Leigh Winner, Terry James Albury (8) Won’t discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own ‘extradition’ he claims to fear

    2013 ‘Edward Snowden’ and his ‘leaked stolen documents’ … (1) ‘Leaked’ to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee and Jewish ex-gay-p-rnographer Glenn Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake by all major gov intel agencies (6) Won’t discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own ‘extradition’ he claims to fear (7) FBI agent Terry James Albury the most recent casualty after allegedly ‘leaking’ to Greenwald – Intercept, one more jailed or dead duped by the Assange-Snowden hoaxers

    2016 Panama Papers ‘leaks’ … (1) ‘Leaked’ to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded ‘investigative journalists’ (2) Shielding prominent Israeli & US & Nato political figures (3) Focus on targets of hostility for US & related oligarchy (4) ICIJ ‘International Consortium of Investigative Journalists’ co-managed by the official Mossad historian Yossi Melman (!), and Israeli military journo Uri Blau, hence another CIA-Mossad ‘rat trip’ to identify & then harass, even silence & kill, real whistle-blowers & dissidents (5) Quickly recognised as a political psy-op, another CIA ‘leaker – dissident’ fraud

    2017 Paradise Papers ‘leaks’ … (1) ‘Leaked’ to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded ‘investigative journalists’, same Israeli-Mossad crew as ‘Panama Papers’ above, serving same oligarch interests, warning the world’s rich who do not get into line with CIA and Mossad

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    "Basically leaks don't exist and everything is a conspiracy".

    Maybe the real truth is even truthier than the leaks pretend to reveal.

    Maybe nobody went to the Moon. Maybe Israel doesn't exist.

    Maybe you are a character in a Dan Brown novel, who knows!
    , @Joe Wong
    Classic CIA work by mudding the water to discredit all witnesses showing CIA's shadowy characters and unscrupulous behavior.
    , @Dani
    Brabantian, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite writers/educators...one resource leads one to another and another and so on, I am learning. Lately, almost every new resource I come upon I am finding your commentary & this is giving me a sense of relief I am in the right place...I read your commentary here before seeing your name & was pleasantly surprised to see your name, though I guess not insanely surprised.
    It's been so all-encompassing to take in so much information & it's been a lengthy process of weeding out the trash from the treasure. I feel like I've finally arrived at a point where I am reading good information - seeing that you are here gives me a sense of security I'm not wasting my time. Learning a lot from you & it's allowing me to make notes & delve off into other areas in which to do more research. I have to continue to keep in mind to not get too wrapped up in reading too many comments. I am always put off when too much back & forth arguing/bickering comes up. Because I know that I am no scholar on these subjects, I can get thrown off track & get confused as to what truths I am looking to glean from whatever article I am reading & will readily admit I need to do some sharpening of my critical thinking skills.
    I guess I need to develop thicker skin because I shouldn't allow myself to be thrown off track by others emotions and opinions, to which they are of course entitled AND a first amendment that gives them the right to express this - well, mostly, for now at least. I just get a little down & out & disheartened to see the whole divide and conquer thing alive & well & materialized in the comment sections after having taken in some really great reading, such as this article here by Laurent G. I downloaded this as it has so much information in it that is just as relevant today as it was 50+ years ago, sadly enough.
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  10. A more than a new perspective. Sometimes a little conspiratorial, but still very real. Sadly, it wouldn’t penetrate the American mind because of the absolute control of the Zionist dominated media. Poor America!

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    Is it the same Ludwig Watzal who wrote about me "Shamir would harm the cause of the Palestinians, as he aims at disavowing his audience by placing them in exactly the corner in which the Israeli propaganda and its US American supporters want to see them, and that is in the anti-Semitic corner. Watzal writes: "The fact that Shamir is not prepared to answer questions on his identity, his motivations and contacts to the extreme right-wing scene, is something that the author of this article had to experience, when he had posed some questions in this field in the beginning of October 2005. He harshly rejected them as 'impertinent'." On February 23, 2005, Shamir is reported to have spoken before the "House of Lords" in London, attacking the "Jewish dominion" there. The article ends with the words: "With these anti-Jewish obsessions Shamir does not only show his Judeophob attitude, but he also harms the progressive Israeli and Palestinian community and their cause a great deal. They, however, have ended their cooperation with him. The only ones who have still not grasped this are many Palestinians and some Jewish intellectuals."
    Perhaps your views had changed somewhat meanwhile?
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  11. There is little evidence that Pentagon generals, let alone CIA officers, needed a war,any war, at all costs. But I could think of no other explanation, short of the unlimited greed of war profiteers, of whom Johnson was a highly represented specimen.

    Gore Vidal had written at length that the real cause of the Vietnam War was the threat posed to the US and all of the West by the much lower costs of goods and services produced in China, Vietnam and elsewhere against which we could not compete.  The US faces this issue less well equipped to compete today having squandered so much money and so many lives in the past recklessly and wastefully.

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2018/04/01/chinese-is-the-new-jewish-2/

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    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    The rant in your link is simply ridiculous, paranoid beyond paranoid. How many the White knows Chinese, and how many Chinese know English? We can say there is zero White knows Chinese if we takes 2 decimal points, while It is 2 digits Chinese know English.
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  12. llloyd says: • Website

    Is this a parody of Jews run the world?

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Not a parody at all, it's more a presentation of further evidence.
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  13. Brabantian says: • Website

    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on ‘Our First Jewish President’, in the ’5 Towns Jewish Times’, with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle “hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port”

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine”

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

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    • Replies: @Z-man
    Yeah Johnson definitely sucked up to Joo power, I'm glad now he died a broken man and never having done Jackie K-O. (Wry grin)
    , @Chuck
    "Looks huwhite to me!" - Jared Taylor
    , @Lot
    The author is a deranged retard.

    No, LBJ's great grandparents were not Jewish. It takes like two minutes of research to figure this out. Some random website saying otherwise based solely on their common German last names is absurd. But these same idiots think Ike was Jewish too because of his various ancestors' "Jewish" surnames.
    , @j2
    It is not essential to assume LBJ was of Jewish origins, since the aunt and probably LBJ belonged to Christadelphians, who consider restoration of Israel as necessary for the Second Coming of Jesus and have the nation of Israel in a central place in their teachings.

    Secondly just commenting the claim in the article, not responding to the comment: there may be better reasons for the Vietnam war than as a distraction of Israel's six day war. In the Bible it is said that after the restoration of Israel there is to be a war all the time (for Christian Zionists up to the Second Coming). By the Old Testament and Zohar there should be the destruction of the Kings of Edom (Christians or non-Jews), all other nations will be enslaved or destroyed. Zionism is (cynically but still) realizing end-of-the-times prophesies. It is too rational to look for explanations from distraction or other tactical motives. These effects are side effects to strategical goals. These side effects can be useful, but they only confirm the wisdom of the path of actions. In the same way: holocaust had to be primarily as it was in prophesies, but secondarily it was tactically useful since not all European Jews could be taken to Israel in the early years.

    The article was very good in illuminating the Zionist connections of LBJ, I had not known it before, but it fits perfectly well to the assassination of JFK, blamed on Cubans, who blame it on a conspiracy of bankers, Meyer Lansky's mafia family, CIA, and Cuban refugees. That seems as the correct group, only without spelling out the four-letter word.
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  14. sarz says:

    I happened upon this statement in another context:
    Dr. Robert Dickson Crane, co-founder of the Center for Strategic Studies at Georgetown University, and foreign policy advisor in the Nixon administration, writes: “The current tragedy [in Sudan] results from the deliberate colonialist policy of Great Britain more than a century ago to put two totally different peoples into one administrative unit in order to better carry out its policy of divide and conquer….From my own proprietary knowledge as a government official, I know that the Israeli Mossad has tried to orchestrate the war between the south and the north, and the CIA has funded it, for more than thirty years. The objective is to pit black Africa against Arab Africa and thereby reduce the Arab, and now the Muslim, threat to Israel.”

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    British secret service is the founding father of both the CIA and the Mossad, as well as the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency.
    , @Moi
    I will talk to Dr. Crane about Sudan, since I see him from time to time. Thanks.
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  15. mcohen says:

    The last paragraph has me worried.

    kristol “could have”……

    Then youthful idealists…..protesting.

    All these connections kennedy and johnson,israel and the arabs,all have one thing in common.oil.
    There are huge oil deposits in the gulf of tonkin.mobil was involved in 1975.
    There is oil in the middle east.no mention is made of this fact by the author.
    Now you want to blame israel for the vietnam holocaust.
    How long have the school shootings been going on.why has it taken so long for “youthful idealists” to take a stand.and now you want to hijack that energy to oppose israel, the very country that has promoted american interests in the middle east.the cynical attempt to blame israel for the “vietnam holicaust” is as disgusting

    Fix the school shooting you fucking morons.

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    So... you mean to tell me that it's the oil companies and not the eevull joos? Come off it.
    , @WhiteWolf
    You mean school shooting psyops surely?
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  16. sarz says:

    Guyenot says unless we consider that Hitler was working for the glory of Yahweh, applying the expression “Holocaust” in that context seems absurd.

    Okay, but no more absurd than constructing elaborate ruses to get around what Jews themselves deem to be G_d’s rules. A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. It’s to avert a prophecy of a major Jewish calamity of that magnitude by convincing G_d or his assistants that it’s already happened.

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    said:
    "A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. "

    Indeed, the fake 6M has been promoted since at least 1823:
    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF
    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    see the impossible 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
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    Why does this story (https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/) bring to mind the "Two Hundred Years Together" by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn?
    , @Decoy Jews
    Thank you, Nosey, that reference to Prouty is very apposite. Guyenot is a critic of books implicating CIA for grave crimes. His critique is based on the notion that CIA and the Pentagon and FBI are all independent agencies. Prouty's book, online in its entirety ( https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ ) shows why that contention is all wet. Prouty shows how CIA controls nominally separate government agencies with 'focal points:' illegal domestic CIA agents in federal jobs.

    Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? That's CIA. Israel's impunity is derivative, solely dependent on the DCI's get-out-of-jail-free cards. Pollard spent a long time squirming on his hemorrhoids in Butner.

    The idea that Israel carried out an anti-Russia provocation is interesting. But Israel's armed attack on the Liberty is perfectly consistent with CIA's plan and conspiracy for war. Israel ingratiates itself to the CIA regime by being the perfect henchman - there's nothing they won't do, no atrocity they will not stoop to. CIA's standard operating procedure is to disguise its illegal domestic operations with foreign intelligence handlers. CIA gets the take. If the operation blows up, the spy scandal implicates a foreign country. A classic example:

    https://psmag.com/news/kings-garbage-76228

    Israel is CIA's henchman. They're sucking up to the guys in charge, the CIA.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting but it leads me to a rather different question. When Allen Dulles was in charge it was a much smaller simpler world even in the great swamp that had been responsible for noxious vapours for 150 years - certainly tainting Langly, VA. Since then there has been a huge turnover of CIA directors who, even if they were pure 35 year, but fasttrack, career men, would have had little chance to be up with all the details of every major risky operation including the reasoning behind it and the planning. (We know - OK 95% - for example that a CIA report from Germany casting grave doubt on the Iraqi witness to chemical WMDs that Colin Powell's UN speech relied on didn't reach George Tenet or others briefing Powell). So.... when we think the CIA has been party to some monstrosity such as 9/11 how do we see the nuts and bolts being put together in an orderly and very secret fashion? Which Directors of the CIA would you have trusted to plan and pull off a 9/11? And if you understandably answer "none" then can someone describe and name the inner executive team that someone even higher up can have relied on?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    I asked an experienced foreign correspondent and TV producer whom I can rely on 100 per cent not to lie to me about Prouty and got the succinct answer "nutter". Accordingly I asked for some links or sources from the busy person,and, in the absence of further correspondence went Googling. Obviously Prouty himself isn't around to edit his Wikipedia entry but there are plenty of people who have an interest in supporting his reputation. He seems to have had a good safe and quite interesting WW2 career and a short career in the CIA where one suspects his nickname may have been "Walter Mitty". He was in Antarctica in a fairly humble role over the days before and after JFK's assassination which must have made him perfect for an Oliver Stone fantasy. He comes across as a chancer even if he wasn't outright lying in his story of Alexander Butterfield being a CIA agent in the White House. Evidence value/ Credibility value: Zero? Or what do you say?
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  18. Selvar says:

    *Yawn*…If Jews support war they are ethnocentric psychopaths shedding gentile blood for their own selfish interests. If Jews oppose war they are leftist/communist subversives stabbing Das Vaterland in the back. Antisemites get to blame Jews either way. Think about it. You can just as easily write the inverse of this article about how Vietnam was a righteous war to stop communism, but our brave Aryan warriors were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot smocking hippie (((rootless cosmopolitans))) protesting on university campuses. Jews were almost certainly over-represented in the anti-war movement. Hell, that second narrative is probably closer to the truth.

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    "...were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot-smoking hippie ..."
    Johnson's main donor in 1948, Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated was not a dirty hippie.
    Adelson, Bloomberg, Singer, Saban, Soros et al are not poor dirty hippies. Mind your words. There is no anti-war movement, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMDH-GWgvII
    , @anon
    Irving Kristol, reacted to Vietnam War critic Senator George McGovern. The presidential contender’s proposed cut in U.S. military expenditure would, according to the “godfather” of neoconservatism, “drive a knife in the heart of Israel.”





    “Jews don’t like big military budgets,” the elder Kristol explained in a Jewish publication in 1973. “But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States … American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”


    http://maidhcocathail.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/kristol-clear-the-source-of-america’s-wars/
    , @anon
    Check with Kevin McDonald about his own experience in !adison WI . Anti war protest in campus against Vietnam war was not accompanied by similar disgust protest and anger at Israel for war against Egypt Syria Jordan , was not accompanied by similar disgust at US for supplying arms information and offering protection to Israel.


    No Antiwar movement is seen anywhere now against US- Israeli attempt to attack Iran or to nullify the deal.
    None of that is forthcoming from synagogues .


    No Antiwar movement was seen from Jewish perspective , secular or religious against Iraq war. They supported it wholeheartedly (. This time fully going with the flow and often asking for more )
    , @annamaria
    Is it antisemitism to say that the Lobby has been working against the freedom of information, freedom of speech, and freedom of association? Case in point: a documentary "The Lobby" that has been prohibited from showing in the US because of the Lobby's objections: https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/grant-f-smith-an-overview-of-the-israel-lobby-agenda/
    Another case in point: the fate of a documentary "Two Hundred Years Together" by the courageous and principled Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. This documentary -- the fact-based description of the history of Jews in Russia -- has been sequestered by all (ALL) publishing houses in the US and UK, despite the fact that Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was awarded a Noble Prize in Literature.
    Compare this to the glorification of the MI16-sponsored White Helmets (a veritable terrorist organization acting in accord with Israeli wishes). Have not they received an Oscar from the obliging Hollywood community of opportunists?
    Yet a documentary -- DOCUMENTARY -- has been shunned, rejected, prohibited for publication in the UK and US. Do you know why? Or the question itself is antisemitic?
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  19. So that’s what happened to the Cole.

    I served under Johnson. It seems to me that a much smaller war crime could have served as a distraction. War profiteers should get more credit. But tying the Kennedy assassination to the Jewish takeover of Washington makes sense. If it’s true that Kennedy wanted honest money he was a threat to the banking cartel. That in itself could have got him killed. And what about Bobby and MLK? I would be interested in this writer’s view of the causes of those assassinations.

    Interesting peace. Thank you.

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  20. A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion.

    One would need a list of Zionist expansion: 1948, 1967, 1973, the Gazan attacks and their respective cover story’s.

    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    The Dutch have a history of irresponsibility in protecting Israeli interests, against the Dutch people (300 deaths).

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    "A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion."
    -- We have been witnessing the 17 years of mass slaughter in the Middle East. Yes, oil is involved. But the initiation of the slaughter was pushed by the proponents of Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Israel wanted the war with Iraq. Israel continues supporting and advocating for the CIA/NATO/ISIS activities against the sovereign state of Syria. Israel is cheerleading for a war with Iran. There are some 4 million dead because of the US/NATO "humanitarian interventions" in the ME. Israel is not satisfied yet with the ongoing Middle Eastern holocaust. Ziocons want more slaughter. And do not forget the very visible presence of ziocons in the Ukrainian tragedy.
    , @Art
    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    Netanyahu is a savage terrorist -PERIOD.

    He has IDF snipers killing Palestinians inside Gaza.

    He says that the IDF is the most moral army in the world.

    How long is humanity going to put up with his insults?

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @ploni almoni
    You need a list? Go make a list.
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  21. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:

    Amazing article.

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  22. Jake says:

    Blaming the Kennedys is full time work for many Middle American ‘conservatives’ as well as for official Republican party types. The former, even those among them who manage to see many problems as existing exclusively because of Jews, fail to see the source of the Kennedy hatred: Joe Kennedy on Jews and his understanding over time that the British Empire was along the lines of what The Saker means by. Anglo-Zionist Empire.

    For seeing that and trying to warn people about the meaning, Joe Kennedy became an Enemy First Class (secret division – as opposed to Hitler in the public division).

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    The Kennedy family, being Irish Catholics, were always under fire from the old, established WASP interests in New England. US intelligence was dominated by old line New England yankee WASP types, who were anti-Kennedy from the start.

    Connecting the dots from CIA hierarchy hostility to the Kennedy brothers to the murder of both of them is a pretty straightforward matter. Adding in the traditional adherence to OT judaical law by the early Puritans and the subsequent promotion of the state of Israel by the descendants of those zealots illuminates a little what was going on in US intelligence during Kennedy's presidency.
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  23. El Dato says:
    @Brabantian
    Terrific piece above connecting many dots, the material on Lyndon Johnson, on Charles de Gaulle, and on the spooky Daniel Ellsberg, the alleged 'leaker' who along with his friend Noam Chomsky and others became dodgy 'dissident celebrities', united in their shilling against JFK assassination investigation, all playing along with the 'lone gunman Oswald' hoax.

    There are at least 6 major fake 'leaks' / 'dissident heroes' all used similar techniques ... all of them CIA hoaxes and frauds ... all involving prominent Jewish or Israeli figures too

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg 'stolen' Pentagon Papers
    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat'
    2010 Julian Assange 'Wikileaks'
    2013 Edward Snowden 'stolen' NSA Papers
    2016 Panama Papers
    2017 Paradise Papers

    All involve CIA-backed fake 'leakers - dissidents' with 'limited hang-out' partial truth, in order to sell even bigger lies:

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg NY Times Pentagon Papers 'stolen documents leak' ... (1) Ellsberg promoted hoax of JFK assassination 'lone gunman, not CIA' (2) Distracted from US Vietnam war crimes outside of 'limited hang-out' My Lai, focusing on Jewish 'leaker hero', not on brutalised Vietnamese (3) Set up meme of 'brave, trusted' CIA media (4) Distracted from Israeli wars and occupation of Palestine

    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat' fictional leaker ... (1) Set up 'Silent Coup' of Richard Nixon by US military Joint Chiefs & CIA (2) Pumped CIA 'brave media' story for Jewish WashPost 'reporter' Bob Woodward, who was a Navy Intel agent working for Admiral Maurer heading Joint Chiefs & running US coup d'état (3) Deepend fake 'brave media' meme for CIA journalists to rat-trap real dissidents, identify & destroy them

    2010 Julian Assange Wikileaks ... (1) Leaks 'selected' & shielded Israel, with Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & US-CIA's Zbigniew Brzezinski both publicly admitting Assange is an intel hoax (2) Anti-9-11 truth (3) Sold intimidating 'USA torture war crimes' story USA enjoys spreading (4) 'Rat trap' for dissidents who could be killed after trusting 'Wikileaks' (5) Apparently not 'living in London Ecuador Embassy' at all, only there for photos, meetings (6) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies (7) People dead & jailed-arrested after contacting Assange & Snowden gangs, dead: Seth Rich, Peter W Smith.jailed-arrested: Reality Leigh Winner, Terry James Albury (8) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear

    2013 'Edward Snowden' and his 'leaked stolen documents' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee and Jewish ex-gay-p-rnographer Glenn Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake by all major gov intel agencies (6) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear (7) FBI agent Terry James Albury the most recent casualty after allegedly 'leaking' to Greenwald - Intercept, one more jailed or dead duped by the Assange-Snowden hoaxers

    2016 Panama Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists' (2) Shielding prominent Israeli & US & Nato political figures (3) Focus on targets of hostility for US & related oligarchy (4) ICIJ 'International Consortium of Investigative Journalists' co-managed by the official Mossad historian Yossi Melman (!), and Israeli military journo Uri Blau, hence another CIA-Mossad 'rat trip' to identify & then harass, even silence & kill, real whistle-blowers & dissidents (5) Quickly recognised as a political psy-op, another CIA 'leaker - dissident' fraud

    2017 Paradise Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists', same Israeli-Mossad crew as 'Panama Papers' above, serving same oligarch interests, warning the world's rich who do not get into line with CIA and Mossad

    “Basically leaks don’t exist and everything is a conspiracy”.

    Maybe the real truth is even truthier than the leaks pretend to reveal.

    Maybe nobody went to the Moon. Maybe Israel doesn’t exist.

    Maybe you are a character in a Dan Brown novel, who knows!

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  24. Jake says:
    @sarz
    I happened upon this statement in another context:
    Dr. Robert Dickson Crane, co-founder of the Center for Strategic Studies at Georgetown University, and foreign policy advisor in the Nixon administration, writes: "The current tragedy [in Sudan] results from the deliberate colonialist policy of Great Britain more than a century ago to put two totally different peoples into one administrative unit in order to better carry out its policy of divide and conquer....From my own proprietary knowledge as a government official, I know that the Israeli Mossad has tried to orchestrate the war between the south and the north, and the CIA has funded it, for more than thirty years. The objective is to pit black Africa against Arab Africa and thereby reduce the Arab, and now the Muslim, threat to Israel."

    British secret service is the founding father of both the CIA and the Mossad, as well as the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency.

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  25. Che Guava says:

    Very interesting article.

    I am not agreeing on the interpretation of the vaunted 1968 in France, there had been much industrial unrest, also activities by the non-Jewish Situationists, writings, some actions. This was co-opted by Jewish Trotskists like Cohn-Bendit (MEP) and others.

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  26. My default tweet:
    #USforeignpolicy = holocausting the 3-rd world for Wallstreet profits, since WWII 20-30 millions dead.

    Lately, I ‘ve noticed Americans denying their holocausts in WWII and the 3-rd world, trying to blame it on the Zionists only.

    Looking at the USA from the Native American view, genocide by the cowboy wild-west and rule thru the barrel of a gun = the American way.

    As documented widely on Youtube by Eustace Mullins and Antony Sutton, Wallstreet interests decisively supported the Bolzhevik revolution and the Hitler war machine, for worldwide dominance.

    WWII was needed to smash Germany in half and so maintain the Wallstreet/UK dominance: no German – Russian alliance ever! This would be a threat to the US Billionaires.

    What needs to change in the West:

    1 -End private central banking (FED-ECB-BIS): the state issues money debt- and interestfree to attain Full employmet economy (= explore space and no more unnecessary wars for Billionaires).

    2- Assetstrip the Billionaires class: they plan the wars
    3- Stick to International Law, UN charter and Declaration of human rights for all at all times.

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  27. n230099 says:

    Oh great…another version of the ‘conflict’ (‘war’ was never declared). And as always with these reimaginings we’re left for the same question for ‘Laurent’…so what do you want to do about it? As they used to say, it’s always good to review history but it’s not necessarily beneficial to stare at it.

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  28. Moi says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    Note that "leaker" Ellsberg was a CIA agent who was never jailed. From my blog that includes links:

    Dec 2, 2010 - Thoughts on Wikileaks

    While our corporate media devotes hundreds of hours to reporting on the latest Wikileaks leak...

    There is an excellent precedence for such a huge misinformation campaign -- the "Pentagon Papers". Retired USAF Col. Fletcher Prouty revealed that the "Pentagon Papers" were a planned CIA leak to shift blame for the failed war in Vietnam from the CIA to the Pentagon. The documents were real, but only certain documents were released. Prouty wrote the other reason for this "leak" was to upset the Nixon administration, which it was trying to destabilize in hopes of ousting Nixon.

    That President was upset that the CIA refused to provide him with requested documents concerning the Bay of Pigs and the JFK assassination. Nixon also angered the "Power Elite" by withdrawing American troops from their profitable business venture in Vietnam and improving relations with Red China. Nixon was ousted with the help of covert CIA agent Bob Woodward, working undercover as a reporter at the CIA co-founded "Washington Post". Gerald Ford became President, who just happened to be a member of the discredited Warren Commission that engineered the cover-up of the JFK assassination!

    I'm not sure if the leaker of the "Pentagon Papers", career CIA agent Daniel Ellsberg, knew he was being used, but he was never prosecuted and allowed to retire and collect his CIA pension. Before becoming a leaker, Ellsberg (pictured) spent a few years in Vietnam working directly under the senior CIA spook there, Edward Lansdale, pictured in my Nov. 23 blog at the scene of the 1963 JFK coup in Dallas.

    Bradley Manning is a young, lowly soldier who will spend years in prison, yet Ellsberg was a senior official who knew the consequences of releasing thousands of pages of classified information. Yet he was never prosecuted AND allowed to retire and collect a government pension! No one on the American "left" questions this obvious red flag, and they celebrate Ellsberg as a hero. Ellsberg may be a great guy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he reports to the CIA in Langley regarding his insider contacts with today's anti-war movements.

    Interesting and plausible. Thanks!

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  29. Moi says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    Yup, we cannot question the holocaust and the official 9/11 story.

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  30. Moi says:
    @sarz
    I happened upon this statement in another context:
    Dr. Robert Dickson Crane, co-founder of the Center for Strategic Studies at Georgetown University, and foreign policy advisor in the Nixon administration, writes: "The current tragedy [in Sudan] results from the deliberate colonialist policy of Great Britain more than a century ago to put two totally different peoples into one administrative unit in order to better carry out its policy of divide and conquer....From my own proprietary knowledge as a government official, I know that the Israeli Mossad has tried to orchestrate the war between the south and the north, and the CIA has funded it, for more than thirty years. The objective is to pit black Africa against Arab Africa and thereby reduce the Arab, and now the Muslim, threat to Israel."

    I will talk to Dr. Crane about Sudan, since I see him from time to time. Thanks.

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  31. anarchyst says:

    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American “(communist) mainstream media”, communists and their “fellow travelers” blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite’s declaration that “the American military lost the war” despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American “mainstream media” could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered “baby killers”, “loose cannons”, “mentally defective”, and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he “anti-war” movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing–”saving their own skins”–nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of “boat people” risking life and limb to escape that communist “paradise”.
    Ken Burns’ “documentary” on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently “let it slip” about the TRUTH of the communist “re-education” camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that “re-education” would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

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    It is good to see that there are still people who are concerned when someone invades another country. We need more people like that. Do you care about the country in which you live?
    , @Anon
    I agree with your post. I’m pretty sure that the year Kennedy died he had 40,000 combat troops in Vietnam.

    Kennedy was a real cold warrior and very anti communist, “ Pay any price, bear any burden” The Kennedys owned the liberal media because old Joe had been paying them off since 1920.
    , @Lost american
    Thanks anarchist- I well remember those late 60s , early 70s days when I was in USMC. I also remember the NY Times and other Bolshevik papers showing daily hate for ALL members of the USA Armed Forces.

    Older and smarter people made me wise to the fact that over at least 75 % of the USA's antiwar protestors didn't care about the Vietnamese people or the Palestinians. Noam Chomsky loved the attention he was getting as "head activist"- all those coeds marching with him, and unlike the grunt overseas, Chomsky got to sleep in the finest hotels, and he also never had a bad word to say about Israel.

    These older men told me when I got out of Corps after several years of service that all the protests were about a thing called the DRAFT. These men included a doctor, a lawyer, and dozens of veterans.
    My father was in WW2 and he was against warmongers (hated them) and he tried to get me to understand that all the people I knew got out of the draft because they didn't want any discomfort in their lives and were just plain afraid for their own skins. My classmates in high school didn't care about the Vietnamese people- only about their own skins. It was fine with me that they didn't want to go to Vietnam but they also refused service when Army recruiters would get signed documents stationing them in Germany and other safe assignments.
    The blue collar street kids I hung out with all got drafted and went into the military.
    , @ploni almoni
    You have had sixty years to figure out that you were being manipulated by the State. And you are still not up to speed? Better not watch the news.
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  32. Joe Wong says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    The beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese managed to kill more than 300,000 in Nanking within few weeks just used bayonets and knives. The Jap is following codoh.com to deny their war crimes. During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, Nazi would be labeled as a laughing stock by the beastly Jap if they couldn’t slaughter 6 million in more than 5 years.

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    You are slightly confused. the English and Americans were doing the butchering not the Germans. The Nazis had no plan, intention of slaughtering 6 million (you were not specific about whom). And certainly were not in a contest with Japan.

    Are you scripting a delusional Hollywood movie to add to the already massive catalog of delusional WW2 movies?

    , @Wally
    said:
    "During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, "

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    www.codoh.com
    , @byrresheim
    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.
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  33. annamaria says:
    @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    “The USS Liberty failed false flag attack is proof of Johnson’s secret complicity with Israel, and of his high treason against the country he had sworn to protect. But Johnson had in fact always been Israel’s man. As early as 1948, his campaign for a Senate seat had been financed by Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated and financial godfather of Israel’s atomic bomb.”
    – You may start with refuting the above monstrosities. Johnson — and all the following presidents — were in the pockets of Israel-firsters. Look around for the moral devastation of the US.

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    I do not think Jimmy Carter was an Israel Firster. And perhaps that is why he has been so vilified.
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  34. annamaria says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    Why does this story (https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/) bring to mind the “Two Hundred Years Together” by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn?

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  35. The U.S. government has since and including WWI been under Zionist control and every war benefits the Zionists and enslaves Americans more and more in debt to the Zionist bankers and the Zionist end game of a Zionist NWO aka a Zionist One World Government.

    Israel controls the U.S. gov to such an extent that congress may just as well be called the lower house of the Knesset and Trump the vice president to Netanyahu, what ever Israel and her Zionist dual citizens want Israel gets, and is a blood sucking tape worm on the body of America.

    Anyone interested in JFKs assassination and how the U.S. was pushed into the war in Vietnam should read Col. L. Fletcher Proutys book JFK, the CIA and Vietnam, it can be had on amazon.com.

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  36. Basically the answer is yes. Always look for the Jew/s behind the curtain. Far too many wars and other historical tragedies have Jews behind them. The same can be said about the Civil War. Fratricidal war. The problem was not slavery. Think again.

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    Indeed the first modern state genocide of Christian Armenians in Ottoman Turkey at the turn of the century was planned by crpto dom Jews Enver and Talat Pasha. Theodore Herzl worked overtime to keep the ongoing genocide hush hush in exchange for the Palestinian lands for his Zionist contigency from the perpetrators. How ironic that the German genocide enablers of the Turks gleaned their ghastly lessons and applied them in the mass slaughter of the Jews 25 years later ( of course only the Jews were subject to genocide-oops). You would think a nation such as Israel would acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, but no...not only do they not recognize it, they use their powerful lobby to thwart efforts to recognize it in the United States. The whole thing is disgusting and hopeless... the sooner Christ comes back, the better.
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  37. And another “detail” that some of u with more than 2 brain cells have already realized: if Hitler had won the war, there wouldnt have been any communism at all, therefore no two Germanies, no two Koreas, no Vietnam war, no communist Cuba or China. The rest is “history”. That written by “victors”, of course.

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  38. Golobki says:

    We must not ignore the link between the Wash Post and the CIA. Ben Bradlee was CIA along with Watergate’s Bob Woodward.
    Bradlee’s murdered sister in law Mary Meyer had been married to CIA official Cord Meyer.
    Bradlee admits in his bio that he went to the dead girl’s home to retrieve her diary before other CIA spooks got hold of it.
    Carl Bernstein, the other Watergate “reporter” was allegedly on a personal vendetta against Nixon for his investigation as a senator of the reporter’s communist parents.

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    Operation Mockingbird

    Operation Mockingbird began in 1950, organized by Allen Dulles and Cord Meyer.[1] The CIA spent today's equivalent of one billion dollars a year hiring journalists from Corporate Media including CBS, The New York Times, ABC, NBC, Newsweek, Associated Press and others, to promote their point of view. The original operation reportedly involved some 3,000 CIA operatives and hired over 400 journalists. [2]
     

    This ongoing CIA operation naturally raises problems with Wikipedia's policy of deeming commercially-controlled media as reliable, and even more serious problems for policy of using corporate media attention to determine "notability". Most seriously of all, if the CIA (or anyone else, such as the deep state) can control big media, then Wikipedia's policy will continue the censorship by default. This realisation underlies the rationale of Wikispooks.
     
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  39. annamaria says:
    @Selvar
    *Yawn*...If Jews support war they are ethnocentric psychopaths shedding gentile blood for their own selfish interests. If Jews oppose war they are leftist/communist subversives stabbing Das Vaterland in the back. Antisemites get to blame Jews either way. Think about it. You can just as easily write the inverse of this article about how Vietnam was a righteous war to stop communism, but our brave Aryan warriors were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot smocking hippie (((rootless cosmopolitans))) protesting on university campuses. Jews were almost certainly over-represented in the anti-war movement. Hell, that second narrative is probably closer to the truth.

    “…were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot-smoking hippie …”
    Johnson’s main donor in 1948, Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated was not a dirty hippie.
    Adelson, Bloomberg, Singer, Saban, Soros et al are not poor dirty hippies. Mind your words. There is no anti-war movement, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMDH-GWgvII

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  40. Joe Wong says:
    @Brabantian
    Terrific piece above connecting many dots, the material on Lyndon Johnson, on Charles de Gaulle, and on the spooky Daniel Ellsberg, the alleged 'leaker' who along with his friend Noam Chomsky and others became dodgy 'dissident celebrities', united in their shilling against JFK assassination investigation, all playing along with the 'lone gunman Oswald' hoax.

    There are at least 6 major fake 'leaks' / 'dissident heroes' all used similar techniques ... all of them CIA hoaxes and frauds ... all involving prominent Jewish or Israeli figures too

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg 'stolen' Pentagon Papers
    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat'
    2010 Julian Assange 'Wikileaks'
    2013 Edward Snowden 'stolen' NSA Papers
    2016 Panama Papers
    2017 Paradise Papers

    All involve CIA-backed fake 'leakers - dissidents' with 'limited hang-out' partial truth, in order to sell even bigger lies:

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg NY Times Pentagon Papers 'stolen documents leak' ... (1) Ellsberg promoted hoax of JFK assassination 'lone gunman, not CIA' (2) Distracted from US Vietnam war crimes outside of 'limited hang-out' My Lai, focusing on Jewish 'leaker hero', not on brutalised Vietnamese (3) Set up meme of 'brave, trusted' CIA media (4) Distracted from Israeli wars and occupation of Palestine

    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat' fictional leaker ... (1) Set up 'Silent Coup' of Richard Nixon by US military Joint Chiefs & CIA (2) Pumped CIA 'brave media' story for Jewish WashPost 'reporter' Bob Woodward, who was a Navy Intel agent working for Admiral Maurer heading Joint Chiefs & running US coup d'état (3) Deepend fake 'brave media' meme for CIA journalists to rat-trap real dissidents, identify & destroy them

    2010 Julian Assange Wikileaks ... (1) Leaks 'selected' & shielded Israel, with Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & US-CIA's Zbigniew Brzezinski both publicly admitting Assange is an intel hoax (2) Anti-9-11 truth (3) Sold intimidating 'USA torture war crimes' story USA enjoys spreading (4) 'Rat trap' for dissidents who could be killed after trusting 'Wikileaks' (5) Apparently not 'living in London Ecuador Embassy' at all, only there for photos, meetings (6) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies (7) People dead & jailed-arrested after contacting Assange & Snowden gangs, dead: Seth Rich, Peter W Smith.jailed-arrested: Reality Leigh Winner, Terry James Albury (8) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear

    2013 'Edward Snowden' and his 'leaked stolen documents' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee and Jewish ex-gay-p-rnographer Glenn Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake by all major gov intel agencies (6) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear (7) FBI agent Terry James Albury the most recent casualty after allegedly 'leaking' to Greenwald - Intercept, one more jailed or dead duped by the Assange-Snowden hoaxers

    2016 Panama Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists' (2) Shielding prominent Israeli & US & Nato political figures (3) Focus on targets of hostility for US & related oligarchy (4) ICIJ 'International Consortium of Investigative Journalists' co-managed by the official Mossad historian Yossi Melman (!), and Israeli military journo Uri Blau, hence another CIA-Mossad 'rat trip' to identify & then harass, even silence & kill, real whistle-blowers & dissidents (5) Quickly recognised as a political psy-op, another CIA 'leaker - dissident' fraud

    2017 Paradise Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists', same Israeli-Mossad crew as 'Panama Papers' above, serving same oligarch interests, warning the world's rich who do not get into line with CIA and Mossad

    Classic CIA work by mudding the water to discredit all witnesses showing CIA’s shadowy characters and unscrupulous behavior.

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  41. Anonymous[612] • Disclaimer says:

    In this article, I am not going to demonstrate, but simply hypothesize

    Now that’s quality journalism! Why oh why are these perspectives systematically excluded from the mainstream media??

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    I don't even read Salier much anymore because I see the stupid headlines on the right out of the corner of my eye. This one must set a new record.
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  42. annamaria says:
    @Max Havelaar
    A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion.

    One would need a list of Zionist expansion: 1948, 1967, 1973, the Gazan attacks and their respective cover story's.

    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    The Dutch have a history of irresponsibility in protecting Israeli interests, against the Dutch people (300 deaths).

    “A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion.”
    – We have been witnessing the 17 years of mass slaughter in the Middle East. Yes, oil is involved. But the initiation of the slaughter was pushed by the proponents of Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Israel wanted the war with Iraq. Israel continues supporting and advocating for the CIA/NATO/ISIS activities against the sovereign state of Syria. Israel is cheerleading for a war with Iran. There are some 4 million dead because of the US/NATO “humanitarian interventions” in the ME. Israel is not satisfied yet with the ongoing Middle Eastern holocaust. Ziocons want more slaughter. And do not forget the very visible presence of ziocons in the Ukrainian tragedy.

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    Certainly, Anna.

    The US Billionaires want controll over planetary energy prices/volumes and bomb competitors to hell (Irak, Libya, Syria, Iran...).

    IT's the Billionaire's class worldwide, who control events on this planet.

    Many are non-Jews, but are just as immoral as the Jewish Billionaire's themselves.

    Like Socrates said: moderation in everything is key [no greed].
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  43. I think there is plenty of evidence that that Watergate was more nonsense than fact. It was the very first successful removal of a sitting President for political and social agenda reasons than any actual wrong doing.

    However, Vietnam was not a cabal for zionist machinations, or supposed agendas – not even close. Nor was Vietnam a holocaust as we generally employ the term. Costly, there are ways to make that case. But War is always a costly gambit. The Russians and the Chinese would love to have the US public wallow in self flagellating nonsense. But it should be rejecting and be rejected in fulfill. As a follow-up to the a prescription that the east can save the west — it’s just isn’t a pill any US citizen should swallow.

    They should reject it faster than they reject nothings that the Rothschild’s banks is running the planet. No. N. Vietnam did not win the watch They lost and and signed an agreement they violated — violated because they had lost their gambit to force communism on the supposed fellows countrymen — and they have the dead bodies to prove their love. And like communists would want to do — after the US left they launched a second war to get their way and they won it. Though, why anyone takes them seriously as honest brokers if beyond me — utterly untrust worthy and the fact that this sight actually uses columns from someone who applauds that level of mendacious morality — frankly is bizarre. That carries diversity well over the carrying limit.

    The tale of Vietnam and our involvement is certainly filled with drama and secrets, and backyard dramas. But it remains one of the few efforts – successful efforts — by the US to support a struggling democracy. And had Pres. Johnson employed the full weight of the military to get the darn thing over with — it would have been done in less than five instead of ten. Why we continue to employ bay of pigs games as full scale warfare is unknown to me.

    Granted warfare makes for a band of strange bedfellows and certainly anyone seeking to make money on conflict can do so. Th corporate world has had the fingers on the dials of our representatives a long time. But Vietnam was probably not one of those gambits. Certainly not as brazen as we might understand it today. Unlike today, the pressure for a single global system devoid of borders —

    No the business community of yesterday generally understood that the US was the US and they intended to keep it that way. Unlike the valueless children they raised to undermine what the country stands for and represent as uniquely American.

    Jewish or not — they supported and felt some allegiance to the US .

    No — Vietnam was not a zionist cabal and the evidence is mighty slim at best to make the case.

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  44. Joe Wong says:
    @Robert Magill


    There is little evidence that Pentagon generals, let alone CIA officers, needed a war,any war, at all costs. But I could think of no other explanation, short of the unlimited greed of war profiteers, of whom Johnson was a highly represented specimen.
     
    Gore Vidal had written at length that the real cause of the Vietnam War was the threat posed to the US and all of the West by the much lower costs of goods and services produced in China, Vietnam and elsewhere against which we could not compete.  The US faces this issue less well equipped to compete today having squandered so much money and so many lives in the past recklessly and wastefully.
    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2018/04/01/chinese-is-the-new-jewish-2/

    The rant in your link is simply ridiculous, paranoid beyond paranoid. How many the White knows Chinese, and how many Chinese know English? We can say there is zero White knows Chinese if we takes 2 decimal points, while It is 2 digits Chinese know English.

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    You must have missed the symbolic feet.
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  45. Hu Mi Yu says:

    The facts in this article are the way I remember them, but they are selected to blame Israel. Much of the blame for Vietnam belongs on Eisenhower and his British patrons. Kennedy needed Eisenhower’s support to win the nomination, and Eisenhower came to Kennedy’s aid in the general election at the last minute by claiming that it would take him a week to think of something Vice President Nixon had done during his administration.

    Eisenhower was promoted from obscurity by the British. They wanted him to lead the Allies, because he was easily manipulated. He doted on the young queen and Churchill’s daughters. All they had to do was send a woman, and he would believe anything they told him. They buttered him up to the point that he thought he was the greatest general in history. He was going to fight the glorious Battle of Armageddon by invading China and rolling back communism.

    His plan of battle was first invading Cuba, then throwing communists out of Vietnam, and then Korea. Then he was going to form an alliance with Russia to invade China (Here he used Hitler’s short-lived arrangement with Stalin as a model).

    All this would require more than two terms as president, and he believed he could be re-elected again and again. He didn’t read much, and during his second term someone managed to explain the 22nd amendment to him. He was outraged.

    His backup plan was the creation of the deep state (aka organized crime) to prevent his opponents from shielding themselves behind the constitution. Then he cut the deal for Kennedy to back fellow Texan Lyndon Johnson for Vice President knowing that Kennedy could be taken out at any time.

    Vietnam and China were active targets for French and British imperialism at the time.

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    I always state a disagreement, agreement or amplification trying to be civil and respectable but this post does not make sense. Eisenhower missed the boat by his less than ringing praise for Nixon. If he wanted a war with China, he could have had one in 1953. The Chinese had no nukes and the Russians were well behind US capabilities.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    The defense of Vietnam was to encourage and support a democratic state. Despite its issues internally, hardly unique to any new state --- the US had no more global ambitions other than thwarting communism.


    President Eisenhower could lent his full support to the French and ended the matter -- but as the US isn't fond of colonialism --- in his view our support against the communists invading Vietnam was slight.

    , @Anon
    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
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  46. @Joe Wong
    The rant in your link is simply ridiculous, paranoid beyond paranoid. How many the White knows Chinese, and how many Chinese know English? We can say there is zero White knows Chinese if we takes 2 decimal points, while It is 2 digits Chinese know English.

    You must have missed the symbolic feet.

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  47. A couple of points. I agree both ‘Leaks’, the ‘Pentagon Papers’ and Watergate, were highly likely intentional by the Deep State.
    I have no doubt Israel was involved, along with many US agencies, the Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans and Businessmen, in the assassination of JFK. Two of the main reasons (and there are about a dozen) why JFK was assassinated was his determination to stop Israel getting nuclear weapons, and to take back the monetary power of the State from the Federal Reserve scammers.
    He had also, as you mentioned, promised to end the US involvement in Vietnam.
    The first JFK initiative which LBJ tore up, on the way back to Washington, was JFK’s authorisation for the State to print US dollars. The second was, as you said, the decision to immediately start ramping up the US involvement in Vietnam.
    One thing missed out about the USS Liberty attack was that the US was going to nuke Cairo in ‘retaliation’ for ‘Egypt’s’ attack. The nuclear armed A4′s were en route, and were recalled when just 3 minutes from their targets (read ‘Operation Cyanide’ by Peter Hounam). This was in reality a nearer WWIII scenario than even the Cuban Missile Crisis, yet it is virtually unknown by most people.
    I recommend the book ‘Operation Cyanide’ to all who have a serious interest in the Middle East and beyond – possible WWIII via ‘False Flag’ casus belli, just like could happen now re Syrian CW False Flags.

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    " I have no doubt Israel was involved ... in the assassination of JFK. "

    Israel had no role in the murder of JFK. If any Israeli had any knowledge of what went down in Dallas on November 22, 1963, they were Mossad agents who were chummy with CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton. And Angleton did have an operational role in the assassination.

    The masterminds behind the murder of JFK were CIA elites around Allen Dulles, like Angleton. The mafia played an important role. The anti-Castro Cubans were muscle.
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  48. @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    Thank you, Nosey, that reference to Prouty is very apposite. Guyenot is a critic of books implicating CIA for grave crimes. His critique is based on the notion that CIA and the Pentagon and FBI are all independent agencies. Prouty’s book, online in its entirety ( https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ ) shows why that contention is all wet. Prouty shows how CIA controls nominally separate government agencies with ‘focal points:’ illegal domestic CIA agents in federal jobs.

    Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? That’s CIA. Israel’s impunity is derivative, solely dependent on the DCI’s get-out-of-jail-free cards. Pollard spent a long time squirming on his hemorrhoids in Butner.

    The idea that Israel carried out an anti-Russia provocation is interesting. But Israel’s armed attack on the Liberty is perfectly consistent with CIA’s plan and conspiracy for war. Israel ingratiates itself to the CIA regime by being the perfect henchman – there’s nothing they won’t do, no atrocity they will not stoop to. CIA’s standard operating procedure is to disguise its illegal domestic operations with foreign intelligence handlers. CIA gets the take. If the operation blows up, the spy scandal implicates a foreign country. A classic example:

    https://psmag.com/news/kings-garbage-76228

    Israel is CIA’s henchman. They’re sucking up to the guys in charge, the CIA.

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    Interesting , very provoking, worth our attention


    From another corner of world views but from same pod


    "Asked about the Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism, the austere faith that is dominant in the kingdom and that some have accused of being a source of global terrorism, Mohammed said that investments in mosques and madrassas overseas were rooted in the Cold War, when allies asked Saudi Arabia to use its resources to prevent inroads in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.
    Successive Saudi governments lost track of the effort, he said, and now “we have to get it all back.” Funding now comes largely from Saudi-based “foundations,” he said, rather than from the government

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/saudi-prince-denies-kushner-is-in-his-pocket/2018/03/22/701a9c9e-2e22-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.ff1d4a6b6d04

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    , @EliteCommInc.
    "Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? "



    laughing ----


    that's easy -- the local police


    excuse my levity. I only partially jest.
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  49. prusmc says: • Website
    @Hu Mi Yu
    The facts in this article are the way I remember them, but they are selected to blame Israel. Much of the blame for Vietnam belongs on Eisenhower and his British patrons. Kennedy needed Eisenhower's support to win the nomination, and Eisenhower came to Kennedy's aid in the general election at the last minute by claiming that it would take him a week to think of something Vice President Nixon had done during his administration.

    Eisenhower was promoted from obscurity by the British. They wanted him to lead the Allies, because he was easily manipulated. He doted on the young queen and Churchill's daughters. All they had to do was send a woman, and he would believe anything they told him. They buttered him up to the point that he thought he was the greatest general in history. He was going to fight the glorious Battle of Armageddon by invading China and rolling back communism.

    His plan of battle was first invading Cuba, then throwing communists out of Vietnam, and then Korea. Then he was going to form an alliance with Russia to invade China (Here he used Hitler's short-lived arrangement with Stalin as a model).

    All this would require more than two terms as president, and he believed he could be re-elected again and again. He didn't read much, and during his second term someone managed to explain the 22nd amendment to him. He was outraged.

    His backup plan was the creation of the deep state (aka organized crime) to prevent his opponents from shielding themselves behind the constitution. Then he cut the deal for Kennedy to back fellow Texan Lyndon Johnson for Vice President knowing that Kennedy could be taken out at any time.

    Vietnam and China were active targets for French and British imperialism at the time.

    I always state a disagreement, agreement or amplification trying to be civil and respectable but this post does not make sense. Eisenhower missed the boat by his less than ringing praise for Nixon. If he wanted a war with China, he could have had one in 1953. The Chinese had no nukes and the Russians were well behind US capabilities.

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  50. @llloyd
    Is this a parody of Jews run the world?

    Not a parody at all, it’s more a presentation of further evidence.

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  51. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Selvar
    *Yawn*...If Jews support war they are ethnocentric psychopaths shedding gentile blood for their own selfish interests. If Jews oppose war they are leftist/communist subversives stabbing Das Vaterland in the back. Antisemites get to blame Jews either way. Think about it. You can just as easily write the inverse of this article about how Vietnam was a righteous war to stop communism, but our brave Aryan warriors were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot smocking hippie (((rootless cosmopolitans))) protesting on university campuses. Jews were almost certainly over-represented in the anti-war movement. Hell, that second narrative is probably closer to the truth.

    Irving Kristol, reacted to Vietnam War critic Senator George McGovern. The presidential contender’s proposed cut in U.S. military expenditure would, according to the “godfather” of neoconservatism, “drive a knife in the heart of Israel.”

    “Jews don’t like big military budgets,” the elder Kristol explained in a Jewish publication in 1973. “But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States … American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”

    http://maidhcocathail.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/kristol-clear-the-source-of-america’s-wars/

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    Thank you for the link: http://maidhcocathail.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/kristol-clear-the-source-of-america’s-wars/
    "The “Saddam must go” campaign, begun in a Kristol and Kagan editorial as far back as 1997, became so relentless that Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen dubbed it “Kristol’s War.”
    The Iraq War has, of course, also been called “Wolfowitz’s War.” But it could just as aptly have been named after Perle, Feith, Libby, Zelikow, Lieberman, or any of the other pro-Israeli insiders who took America to war by way of deception.
    Unless Americans soon realize that they’ve been deceived by those for whom “American greatness” is merely a means to advance “the survival of the state of Israel,” that legacy promises to be an enduring one."
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  52. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Decoy Jews
    Thank you, Nosey, that reference to Prouty is very apposite. Guyenot is a critic of books implicating CIA for grave crimes. His critique is based on the notion that CIA and the Pentagon and FBI are all independent agencies. Prouty's book, online in its entirety ( https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ ) shows why that contention is all wet. Prouty shows how CIA controls nominally separate government agencies with 'focal points:' illegal domestic CIA agents in federal jobs.

    Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? That's CIA. Israel's impunity is derivative, solely dependent on the DCI's get-out-of-jail-free cards. Pollard spent a long time squirming on his hemorrhoids in Butner.

    The idea that Israel carried out an anti-Russia provocation is interesting. But Israel's armed attack on the Liberty is perfectly consistent with CIA's plan and conspiracy for war. Israel ingratiates itself to the CIA regime by being the perfect henchman - there's nothing they won't do, no atrocity they will not stoop to. CIA's standard operating procedure is to disguise its illegal domestic operations with foreign intelligence handlers. CIA gets the take. If the operation blows up, the spy scandal implicates a foreign country. A classic example:

    https://psmag.com/news/kings-garbage-76228

    Israel is CIA's henchman. They're sucking up to the guys in charge, the CIA.

    Interesting , very provoking, worth our attention

    From another corner of world views but from same pod

    “Asked about the Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism, the austere faith that is dominant in the kingdom and that some have accused of being a source of global terrorism, Mohammed said that investments in mosques and madrassas overseas were rooted in the Cold War, when allies asked Saudi Arabia to use its resources to prevent inroads in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.
    Successive Saudi governments lost track of the effort, he said, and now “we have to get it all back.” Funding now comes largely from Saudi-based “foundations,” he said, rather than from the government

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/saudi-prince-denies-kushner-is-in-his-pocket/2018/03/22/701a9c9e-2e22-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.ff1d4a6b6d04

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  53. @mcohen
    The last paragraph has me worried.

    kristol "could have"......

    Then youthful idealists.....protesting.

    All these connections kennedy and johnson,israel and the arabs,all have one thing in common.oil.
    There are huge oil deposits in the gulf of tonkin.mobil was involved in 1975.
    There is oil in the middle east.no mention is made of this fact by the author.
    Now you want to blame israel for the vietnam holocaust.
    How long have the school shootings been going on.why has it taken so long for "youthful idealists" to take a stand.and now you want to hijack that energy to oppose israel, the very country that has promoted american interests in the middle east.the cynical attempt to blame israel for the "vietnam holicaust" is as disgusting

    Fix the school shooting you fucking morons.

    So… you mean to tell me that it’s the oil companies and not the eevull joos? Come off it.

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    No oil = no economy
    No economy = no food
    No food = no people
    No people = no problem
    No problem = come off it
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  54. @Jake
    Blaming the Kennedys is full time work for many Middle American 'conservatives' as well as for official Republican party types. The former, even those among them who manage to see many problems as existing exclusively because of Jews, fail to see the source of the Kennedy hatred: Joe Kennedy on Jews and his understanding over time that the British Empire was along the lines of what The Saker means by. Anglo-Zionist Empire.

    For seeing that and trying to warn people about the meaning, Joe Kennedy became an Enemy First Class (secret division - as opposed to Hitler in the public division).

    The Kennedy family, being Irish Catholics, were always under fire from the old, established WASP interests in New England. US intelligence was dominated by old line New England yankee WASP types, who were anti-Kennedy from the start.

    Connecting the dots from CIA hierarchy hostility to the Kennedy brothers to the murder of both of them is a pretty straightforward matter. Adding in the traditional adherence to OT judaical law by the early Puritans and the subsequent promotion of the state of Israel by the descendants of those zealots illuminates a little what was going on in US intelligence during Kennedy’s presidency.

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  55. bjondo says:
    @Joe Wong
    The beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese managed to kill more than 300,000 in Nanking within few weeks just used bayonets and knives. The Jap is following codoh.com to deny their war crimes. During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, Nazi would be labeled as a laughing stock by the beastly Jap if they couldn't slaughter 6 million in more than 5 years.

    You are slightly confused. the English and Americans were doing the butchering not the Germans. The Nazis had no plan, intention of slaughtering 6 million (you were not specific about whom). And certainly were not in a contest with Japan.

    Are you scripting a delusional Hollywood movie to add to the already massive catalog of delusional WW2 movies?

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    You are catching up with the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese fast in denying war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace fast.
    , @James Forrestal
    It's almost as if Mr. Wong harbors an intense, irrational hatred towards Japanese people, or something. Now why would that be?

    The "Rape of Nanking" seems to serve the same purpose for his people that the "death camp" narrative does for the chosen people (and the "comfort women" for the Koreans) -- a focus for their hatred, and justification for their belief that their enemies of 70+ years ago are still the evilest evil ever; collectively guilty of sins that can never be expiated. An interesting parallel.
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  56. Art says:
    @Max Havelaar
    A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion.

    One would need a list of Zionist expansion: 1948, 1967, 1973, the Gazan attacks and their respective cover story's.

    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    The Dutch have a history of irresponsibility in protecting Israeli interests, against the Dutch people (300 deaths).

    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    Netanyahu is a savage terrorist -PERIOD.

    He has IDF snipers killing Palestinians inside Gaza.

    He says that the IDF is the most moral army in the world.

    How long is humanity going to put up with his insults?

    Think Peace — Art

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    True, a Satanist shooting and killing unarmed Palestinian protesters during the GreatReturnMarch with explosive bullets to maim for live.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/will-israel-pay-price-its-latest-gaza-massacre
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  57. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Golobki
    We must not ignore the link between the Wash Post and the CIA. Ben Bradlee was CIA along with Watergate's Bob Woodward.
    Bradlee's murdered sister in law Mary Meyer had been married to CIA official Cord Meyer.
    Bradlee admits in his bio that he went to the dead girl's home to retrieve her diary before other CIA spooks got hold of it.
    Carl Bernstein, the other Watergate "reporter" was allegedly on a personal vendetta against Nixon for his investigation as a senator of the reporter's communist parents.

    Operation Mockingbird

    Operation Mockingbird began in 1950, organized by Allen Dulles and Cord Meyer.[1] The CIA spent today’s equivalent of one billion dollars a year hiring journalists from Corporate Media including CBS, The New York Times, ABC, NBC, Newsweek, Associated Press and others, to promote their point of view. The original operation reportedly involved some 3,000 CIA operatives and hired over 400 journalists. [2]

    This ongoing CIA operation naturally raises problems with Wikipedia’s policy of deeming commercially-controlled media as reliable, and even more serious problems for policy of using corporate media attention to determine “notability”. Most seriously of all, if the CIA (or anyone else, such as the deep state) can control big media, then Wikipedia’s policy will continue the censorship by default. This realisation underlies the rationale of Wikispooks.

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    Mind‐Control Studies Had Origins in Trial of Mindszenty

    The C.I.A. leaders were certain the Communists had embarked on a campaign to control men’s minds and they were determined to find a defense, setting out in earnest the next year‐1950—with Project Bluebird, which evolved into Project Artichoke, then became MKULTRA — MK — DELTA. With each code name change, they broadened their sweep, until there remained virtually no avenue of human behavior control they were not exploring.

    AMERICAN CARDINAL CONDEMNS MINDSZENTY TRIAL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDiryerCcqk

    Source: http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017363

    Cardinal Mindszenty had acted on the assumption that the overthrow of the Hungarian Government, with the consequent “restoration of the Hungarian Catholic Monarchy of Hapsburg in its place, could be achieved with help from abroad…in case a new world war created such a situation,” to quote his own words.[5] “I regarded it (the outbreak of the third world war) as a basis,” said the Cardinal. ... The Cardinal had been designated a key part in a “successful insurrection.” That is, he had been appointed jointly by Pius XII, the Hungarian insurrectionists and the CIA as “Premier” of Liberated Hungary. - http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/austrians-vote-against-muslim-anschluss-get-called-nazis/#comment-2053935

    Avery Dulles Ordained 1956/6/18

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh48PKCwG1Y

    Avery Dulles ordained in New York by Archbishop Spellman, pictured with his father John Foster Dulles and Spellman (partial newsreel). - http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017173

    Vietnam why did we go?

    Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Manhattan [...]

    With an immense collection of facts, photos, names and dates, Manhattan proves that the Vietnam War began as a religious conflict. He shows how America was manipulated into supporting Catholic oppression in Vietnam supposedly to fight communism.

    – http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2016919

    VIETNAM—THE CROATIA OF ASIA

    The South Vietnamese and Croatian Catholic dictatorships, therefore, are the most striking examples of how the spirit of Catholicism can stultify the most diverse political systems and cultures with the bacillae of intolerance.

     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2020843


    The Vatican's Holocaust Book Review Part 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KlnmUEUXpg

    The Vatican's Holocaust Book Review Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=533Ak2t9DWQ


    After prolonged and painful assessment, Kennedy and his closest associates finally reached the conclusion that the only way to get rid of the Diem regime was to get rid of President Diem himself. There have been contradictory reports of how the ultimate decision was reached and by whom. Although books, and newspapers have described the step by step evolution, in the end it turned out to be a planned cold blooded assassination of Diem. [13]
    [...]
    Might it be possible and conceivable, that President Kennedy was assassinated [on] the orders of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic lobby as “revenge” for Diem’s assassination?
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    Ngo Dinh Diem 3 January 1901 – 2 November 1963

    John F. Kennedy
    May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963

    Video time-stamped to 1 min 23 sec:

    Cold War Mandarin: Ngo Dinh Diem and the origins of America's war in Vietnam, 1950-1963

    Boston College Libraries
    Published on Mar 1, 2018

    https://youtu.be/YqBhpV8GjwU?t=1m23s

    Excerpt from transcript:

    01:23
    there's the fact that he was a Catholic
    01:24
    and that meant an awful lot in the
    01:26
    United States the 1950s there was a
    01:28
    major religious revival that was
    01:30
    sweeping the United States Catholic
    01:32
    credentials looked just impeccable in
    01:34
    waging cold war may have noticed that
    01:36
    the most famous communist hunter of that
    01:38
    era Joseph McCarthy was himself a
    01:39
    Catholic one widespread Catholic support
    01:42
    the FBI which was the really the
    01:45
    domestic arm of the anti-communist
    01:47
    crusade recruited very heavily at
    01:49
    Catholic colleges like Fordham and Notre
    01:50
    Dame people like Cardinal Spellman John
    01:54
    F Kennedy Mike Mansfield all very
    01:55
    prominent Catholic [cold war] warriors

    New York Hails Vietnam's President Diem (1957)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rj8-qxROFc

    Why Catholics thrive in the CIA

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/may-6th-2016/why-catholics-thrive-in-the-cia/

    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cia_cartoon_ben_garrison-1024x859.jpg

    Source: https://grrrgraphics.com/the-cia-unleashed/
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  58. How can be highly intelligent people so confused concerning the basics.
    At the time of Vietnam war, the center of Zionist globalism was in Soviet Union.
    It was not called Zionist globalism.
    It was called Communist internationalism.
    There was Zionism in US but the only cause supported by them was protection of state of Israel, and that quite understandable.
    Today is center of Zionist globalism is in US.
    There should be no objection to Zionists to support Israel.
    The objection should be directed against Zionist globalism That is committing war crimes against nations of the world.
    In Vietnam war communist were the aggressors.
    In Vietnam war US was defender of freedoms over the aggression of Communists.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………….
    Not anymore the US is defender of freedoms.

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    They may be intelligent, even highly intelligent, but they have their own axes to grind.
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  60. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Selvar
    *Yawn*...If Jews support war they are ethnocentric psychopaths shedding gentile blood for their own selfish interests. If Jews oppose war they are leftist/communist subversives stabbing Das Vaterland in the back. Antisemites get to blame Jews either way. Think about it. You can just as easily write the inverse of this article about how Vietnam was a righteous war to stop communism, but our brave Aryan warriors were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot smocking hippie (((rootless cosmopolitans))) protesting on university campuses. Jews were almost certainly over-represented in the anti-war movement. Hell, that second narrative is probably closer to the truth.

    Check with Kevin McDonald about his own experience in !adison WI . Anti war protest in campus against Vietnam war was not accompanied by similar disgust protest and anger at Israel for war against Egypt Syria Jordan , was not accompanied by similar disgust at US for supplying arms information and offering protection to Israel.

    No Antiwar movement is seen anywhere now against US- Israeli attempt to attack Iran or to nullify the deal.
    None of that is forthcoming from synagogues .

    No Antiwar movement was seen from Jewish perspective , secular or religious against Iraq war. They supported it wholeheartedly (. This time fully going with the flow and often asking for more )

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    But US troops were not involved in the Six Day War that lasted, well, six days.

    If Vietnam War lasted six days and involved no US troops, I highly doubt there would have been a protests.

    Americans don't care if US troops are not involved in great numbers.

    This is why Obama got away with Libya and Syria. He led 'from behind'.
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  61. Joe Wong says:
    @bjondo
    You are slightly confused. the English and Americans were doing the butchering not the Germans. The Nazis had no plan, intention of slaughtering 6 million (you were not specific about whom). And certainly were not in a contest with Japan.

    Are you scripting a delusional Hollywood movie to add to the already massive catalog of delusional WW2 movies?

    You are catching up with the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese fast in denying war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace fast.

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  62. gwynedd1 says:
    @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    It always is when blaming just the Jews. However they are almost always a political force , and of course from their power elite, more or less meaning that their goals are often at odd with the peace and harmony of ordinary Jews themselves, let alone everyone else. They could never do it alone.

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  63. bjondo says:

    I recognize war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace, crimes against truth, crimes against decency, crimes, committed by the English, the Amurderkans, and the Overlord-of-Crime of both, the Jew.

    Japan I know only as an American puppet.

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    The Japanese behaved monstrously in the countries they occupied during WW2. That is what Joe Wong is writing about. I know a Filipino woman whose 2 uncles were actually crucified by the Japanese right in the city plaza during the Japanese occupation.

    There is plenty of information about the horrors of the Japanese concentration camps, POW camps and abuse of civilians.
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  64. @Ludwig Watzal
    A more than a new perspective. Sometimes a little conspiratorial, but still very real. Sadly, it wouldn't penetrate the American mind because of the absolute control of the Zionist dominated media. Poor America!

    Is it the same Ludwig Watzal who wrote about me “Shamir would harm the cause of the Palestinians, as he aims at disavowing his audience by placing them in exactly the corner in which the Israeli propaganda and its US American supporters want to see them, and that is in the anti-Semitic corner. Watzal writes: “The fact that Shamir is not prepared to answer questions on his identity, his motivations and contacts to the extreme right-wing scene, is something that the author of this article had to experience, when he had posed some questions in this field in the beginning of October 2005. He harshly rejected them as ‘impertinent’.” On February 23, 2005, Shamir is reported to have spoken before the “House of Lords” in London, attacking the “Jewish dominion” there. The article ends with the words: “With these anti-Jewish obsessions Shamir does not only show his Judeophob attitude, but he also harms the progressive Israeli and Palestinian community and their cause a great deal. They, however, have ended their cooperation with him. The only ones who have still not grasped this are many Palestinians and some Jewish intellectuals.”
    Perhaps your views had changed somewhat meanwhile?

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  65. lavoisier says: • Website
    @annamaria
    "The USS Liberty failed false flag attack is proof of Johnson’s secret complicity with Israel, and of his high treason against the country he had sworn to protect. But Johnson had in fact always been Israel’s man. As early as 1948, his campaign for a Senate seat had been financed by Abraham Feinberg, president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated and financial godfather of Israel’s atomic bomb."
    -- You may start with refuting the above monstrosities. Johnson -- and all the following presidents -- were in the pockets of Israel-firsters. Look around for the moral devastation of the US.

    I do not think Jimmy Carter was an Israel Firster. And perhaps that is why he has been so vilified.

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    Agree. The viciousness of the Lobby towards Carter is a clear sign of the Lobby' belief that the US exists exclusively for the Jewish pleasure.
    A sample by Deborah Lipstadt, written in a pure snitching style: http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48929982.html
    And another sample by an anonymous snitch: http://www.weeklystandard.com/jimmy-carter-anti-semitism-and-more./article/6030
    , @Z-man
    Not now but when he was in power he mostly towed 'the party line'. Not as bad as his successors but still aware of the power of the tribe. In the comfort of his retirement (he has been a very active ex president) he has criticized the Zionist state which has made it easy for all Jews, so called lefties or Neochoens, to attack him along with the goy Republican cucks who call themselves patriots. In hindsight I salute you Jimmy.
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  66. sarz says:

    These two books bring out the Jewish role in Kennedy’s assassination, and link the involvement in Vietnam to Jewish interest in the heroin trade. It should be remembered that Jews were above Sicilians in the organised crime body we think of as Mafia. Meyer Lanski was at the top.

    Salvador Astucia: Opium lords: Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy assassination (available as a pdf for free download)

    Michael Collins Piper: Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination …

    I think Guyenot’s insight is something we would all have difficulty thinking. But he has hit on the mother lode of Judaic world power, on why the whole world might say “The Jews are our sorrow.” Judaism at core is pure satanism, but on the surface and in the view of casual Jews and onlookers it is a religion. It is the cult of self-worship and inescapable hatred of all others, whom it convinces itself are not human and are to be enslaved and endlessly sacrificed for the glory of Jews and to the delight of their god’s nostrils. This is the truth in the councils of serious Jews. It is so shocking it is easy to deny. But once you discover it, don’t be bullied. Spread the discovery around. The evidence is there, to be found under every rock.

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    on why the whole world might say “The Jews are our sorrow.” Judaism at core is pure satanism, but on the surface and in the view of casual Jews and onlookers it is a religion. It is the cult of self-worship and inescapable hatred of all others, whom it convinces itself are not human and are to be enslaved and endlessly sacrificed for the glory of Jews and to the delight of their god’s nostrils.
     
    Good point.
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  67. mcohen says:
    @Twodees Partain
    So... you mean to tell me that it's the oil companies and not the eevull joos? Come off it.

    No oil = no economy
    No economy = no food
    No food = no people
    No people = no problem
    No problem = come off it

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    No Jew dominance = much less violence & problems

    The US doesn't & never did need ME oil.

    Oil is a canard, a smokescreen intended to hide proven Jew sicknesses.

    www.codoh.com
    , @Twodees Partain
    No eevull joos= no wars

    No wars= no problem.
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  68. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    This is what I meant when calling Israel the “psychopathic nation”.

    Well, Israel isn’t alone in being psychopathic in the way you mentioned.

    That seems to be the norm.

    Stalin kept the Korean War going on as long as possible because it was to USSR’s advantage to have China(ideological competitor with Russia) battling the US(ideological enemy of Russia).

    Later, China did everything to prolong the Vietnam War because it wanted US empire bogged down in Vietnam.

    Foreign Policy is contradictory. It was about dealing with the world, and this implies doing what is good for the world. But not so. It’s always about messing with the world for national interest. And this makes the foreign policy of every nation like gangster politics. Look how Turkey manipulates its neighboring region for Turkish national interests.

    So, Israel is no more psychpathic in this regard. The problem is the power of Israel is part of Judea or Empire of Jewish Power. So, Jewish self-interest has wider repercussions than the self-interests of other peoples.

    It’s not that Jews are more psychopathic. It’s that their psychopathy(a norm in world affairs) has greater reach.

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    "Stalin kept the Korean War going on as long as possible because it was to USSR’s advantage to have China (ideological competitor with Russia) battling the US(ideological enemy of Russia). Later, China did everything to prolong the Vietnam War because it wanted US empire bogged down in Vietnam."
    -- The USSR was looking for the advantage to the USSR. China was looking for the advantage to China.
    Jewish power in the United Kingdom and the USA has been looking for the advantage to a foreign country of Israel. Yes, "Jewish self-interest has wider repercussions than the self-interests of other peoples," including the interests of people in those countries where Jews enjoy their citizenship. This is an amazing cognitive fault that leads to the inevitable unfortunate repercussions both for the "natives" and the ungrateful "self-interested" guests.
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  69. @Max Havelaar
    A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion.

    One would need a list of Zionist expansion: 1948, 1967, 1973, the Gazan attacks and their respective cover story's.

    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    The Dutch have a history of irresponsibility in protecting Israeli interests, against the Dutch people (300 deaths).

    You need a list? Go make a list.

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  70. Excellent piece altogether, at least some parts of it sound true, in particular Lyndon B Johnson’s pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish attitudes. Johnson’s father had been instrumental in pardoning the lynched Jewish killer of a young girl. He was a close friend to a lady who was a full-fledged Israeli agent. It is dangerous to have such a vice-president, and that is what the US has now; extremely pro-Israeli VP Pence waiting in the wings for Trump to fail.
    However, while referring to anti-war movement, it is over-simplification. The US had draft army, not a mercenary one as now. This was the reason for anti-war movement then, and not now.
    1968 rising in Paris can’t be reduced to Jewish manipulations. The Jewish activists betrayed the uprising, like the Jewish trade union leaders betrayed the underpaid workers, but the cause of the rising was fine and just. I loved 1968 and still love it. This failed and betrayed revolution is the source of many consequent events.
    Jews do change sides, it is true. Leon Trotsky or Danny Cohn-Bendit are prime examples. But their betrayals do not invalidate the cause or the movement.
    Even if CIA had been behind publication of Pentagon Papers, it was a good thing. Ditto Snowden.

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    I always thought the French 1968 uprising was done on orders of Israel. Didn’t De Gualle refuse to do something Israel wanted and in retaliation Israel and Cohn Bendit and the test carried out the uprising?
    , @Anon
    That lady was Mathilda Krim wife of financial market manipulator Arthur Krim.

    What a bunch of crooks American presidents are.
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  71. @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    It is good to see that there are still people who are concerned when someone invades another country. We need more people like that. Do you care about the country in which you live?

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  72. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @anon
    Check with Kevin McDonald about his own experience in !adison WI . Anti war protest in campus against Vietnam war was not accompanied by similar disgust protest and anger at Israel for war against Egypt Syria Jordan , was not accompanied by similar disgust at US for supplying arms information and offering protection to Israel.


    No Antiwar movement is seen anywhere now against US- Israeli attempt to attack Iran or to nullify the deal.
    None of that is forthcoming from synagogues .


    No Antiwar movement was seen from Jewish perspective , secular or religious against Iraq war. They supported it wholeheartedly (. This time fully going with the flow and often asking for more )

    But US troops were not involved in the Six Day War that lasted, well, six days.

    If Vietnam War lasted six days and involved no US troops, I highly doubt there would have been a protests.

    Americans don’t care if US troops are not involved in great numbers.

    This is why Obama got away with Libya and Syria. He led ‘from behind’.

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  73. annamaria says:
    @anon
    Irving Kristol, reacted to Vietnam War critic Senator George McGovern. The presidential contender’s proposed cut in U.S. military expenditure would, according to the “godfather” of neoconservatism, “drive a knife in the heart of Israel.”





    “Jews don’t like big military budgets,” the elder Kristol explained in a Jewish publication in 1973. “But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States … American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”


    http://maidhcocathail.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/kristol-clear-the-source-of-america’s-wars/

    Thank you for the link: http://maidhcocathail.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/kristol-clear-the-source-of-america’s-wars/
    “The “Saddam must go” campaign, begun in a Kristol and Kagan editorial as far back as 1997, became so relentless that Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen dubbed it “Kristol’s War.”
    The Iraq War has, of course, also been called “Wolfowitz’s War.” But it could just as aptly have been named after Perle, Feith, Libby, Zelikow, Lieberman, or any of the other pro-Israeli insiders who took America to war by way of deception.
    Unless Americans soon realize that they’ve been deceived by those for whom “American greatness” is merely a means to advance “the survival of the state of Israel,” that legacy promises to be an enduring one.”

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  74. @Hu Mi Yu
    The facts in this article are the way I remember them, but they are selected to blame Israel. Much of the blame for Vietnam belongs on Eisenhower and his British patrons. Kennedy needed Eisenhower's support to win the nomination, and Eisenhower came to Kennedy's aid in the general election at the last minute by claiming that it would take him a week to think of something Vice President Nixon had done during his administration.

    Eisenhower was promoted from obscurity by the British. They wanted him to lead the Allies, because he was easily manipulated. He doted on the young queen and Churchill's daughters. All they had to do was send a woman, and he would believe anything they told him. They buttered him up to the point that he thought he was the greatest general in history. He was going to fight the glorious Battle of Armageddon by invading China and rolling back communism.

    His plan of battle was first invading Cuba, then throwing communists out of Vietnam, and then Korea. Then he was going to form an alliance with Russia to invade China (Here he used Hitler's short-lived arrangement with Stalin as a model).

    All this would require more than two terms as president, and he believed he could be re-elected again and again. He didn't read much, and during his second term someone managed to explain the 22nd amendment to him. He was outraged.

    His backup plan was the creation of the deep state (aka organized crime) to prevent his opponents from shielding themselves behind the constitution. Then he cut the deal for Kennedy to back fellow Texan Lyndon Johnson for Vice President knowing that Kennedy could be taken out at any time.

    Vietnam and China were active targets for French and British imperialism at the time.

    The defense of Vietnam was to encourage and support a democratic state. Despite its issues internally, hardly unique to any new state — the US had no more global ambitions other than thwarting communism.

    President Eisenhower could lent his full support to the French and ended the matter — but as the US isn’t fond of colonialism — in his view our support against the communists invading Vietnam was slight.

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  75. headrick says:

    https://ironlight.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/kennedy-dimona-and-israels-deadly-secrets/

    Kennedy- explained. simple and clear and convincing to me.

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  76. @Paul Barbara
    A couple of points. I agree both 'Leaks', the 'Pentagon Papers' and Watergate, were highly likely intentional by the Deep State.
    I have no doubt Israel was involved, along with many US agencies, the Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans and Businessmen, in the assassination of JFK. Two of the main reasons (and there are about a dozen) why JFK was assassinated was his determination to stop Israel getting nuclear weapons, and to take back the monetary power of the State from the Federal Reserve scammers.
    He had also, as you mentioned, promised to end the US involvement in Vietnam.
    The first JFK initiative which LBJ tore up, on the way back to Washington, was JFK's authorisation for the State to print US dollars. The second was, as you said, the decision to immediately start ramping up the US involvement in Vietnam.
    One thing missed out about the USS Liberty attack was that the US was going to nuke Cairo in 'retaliation' for 'Egypt's' attack. The nuclear armed A4's were en route, and were recalled when just 3 minutes from their targets (read 'Operation Cyanide' by Peter Hounam). This was in reality a nearer WWIII scenario than even the Cuban Missile Crisis, yet it is virtually unknown by most people.
    I recommend the book 'Operation Cyanide' to all who have a serious interest in the Middle East and beyond - possible WWIII via 'False Flag' casus belli, just like could happen now re Syrian CW False Flags.

    ” I have no doubt Israel was involved … in the assassination of JFK. ”

    Israel had no role in the murder of JFK. If any Israeli had any knowledge of what went down in Dallas on November 22, 1963, they were Mossad agents who were chummy with CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton. And Angleton did have an operational role in the assassination.

    The masterminds behind the murder of JFK were CIA elites around Allen Dulles, like Angleton. The mafia played an important role. The anti-Castro Cubans were muscle.

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    Oswald was intended to be killed in the movie theater. He stated he was just a patsy. He couldn't go to trial. Jacob Rubinstein was needed to kill Oswald. Yes he did have mafia ties but then again there are people like Meyer Lansky who had power. Ruby did regularly attend a synagogue. Yes indeed, Angleton and Dulles were involved. Yes indeed were Angleton and Mossad connected. yes indeed did Mossad have connections to international organized crime ( a cutout for the hitmen procurement) stemming from the days of procuring illegal arms for Israel (still needed before LBJ). Yes indeed did JFK have a problem with Israel getting the bomb. Yes indeed did Johnston favor the state of Israel. Yes indeed did Israel have a relatively easy time getting the bomb after JFK's death.
    but I do think it is a stretch that Israel decided that it was to be Vietnam rather than Cuba. Vietnam and Korea were decided on as WW2 ended. As Fletcher Prouty stated, after WW2 the equipment for the 500.000 man army group not needed to invade Japan was taken to Korea and Vietnam. Anecdotally, in my rural area an ex Navy intelligence non com bought the little country store. He told me he helped unload it. My own research made me think the Vietnam War was a bad idea. The US didn't sign the Geneva Accord that ended French colonialism in Vietnam. I agree that the draft was the main reason there was such a forceful anti-war movement. I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force. Israel and many Jews do have influence and power grossly outstripping their small population .It is indeed an Anglo Zionist power group controlling the US. With the Jewish people we might know just ordinary manipulated people as much as you and me.
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  77. Wally says:
    @Joe Wong
    The beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese managed to kill more than 300,000 in Nanking within few weeks just used bayonets and knives. The Jap is following codoh.com to deny their war crimes. During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, Nazi would be labeled as a laughing stock by the beastly Jap if they couldn't slaughter 6 million in more than 5 years.

    said:
    “During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, ”

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Wally, there is a great deal material about the awful things Japan did during WW2. Joe is Chinese he probably has relatives who remember the horrors.

    For a couple hundred dollars you can get a library card at universities. There is a lot of material available. There are many sources other than the history * channel and the internet.

    * history aka hitler channel
    , @Joe Wong
    There are plenty of artifacts in the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese crime sites and museums in China as well as in other Asian nations, you should go there to check it out yourself, it might change your mind about defending those beastly barbarians after you see the cruelty yourself, presumably you are one of us, not one of those unrepentant beasts.

    One of the strategies the unrepentant war criminal Japanese adopted is to wait until all witnesses of their crimes die off, then they call for witness to testify after they reconstruct the crime sites. You and codoh.com is the vanguard in this field.
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  78. annamaria says:
    @Selvar
    *Yawn*...If Jews support war they are ethnocentric psychopaths shedding gentile blood for their own selfish interests. If Jews oppose war they are leftist/communist subversives stabbing Das Vaterland in the back. Antisemites get to blame Jews either way. Think about it. You can just as easily write the inverse of this article about how Vietnam was a righteous war to stop communism, but our brave Aryan warriors were stabbed in the back by dirty, pot smocking hippie (((rootless cosmopolitans))) protesting on university campuses. Jews were almost certainly over-represented in the anti-war movement. Hell, that second narrative is probably closer to the truth.

    Is it antisemitism to say that the Lobby has been working against the freedom of information, freedom of speech, and freedom of association? Case in point: a documentary “The Lobby” that has been prohibited from showing in the US because of the Lobby’s objections: https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/grant-f-smith-an-overview-of-the-israel-lobby-agenda/
    Another case in point: the fate of a documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” by the courageous and principled Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. This documentary — the fact-based description of the history of Jews in Russia — has been sequestered by all (ALL) publishing houses in the US and UK, despite the fact that Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was awarded a Noble Prize in Literature.
    Compare this to the glorification of the MI16-sponsored White Helmets (a veritable terrorist organization acting in accord with Israeli wishes). Have not they received an Oscar from the obliging Hollywood community of opportunists?
    Yet a documentary — DOCUMENTARY — has been shunned, rejected, prohibited for publication in the UK and US. Do you know why? Or the question itself is antisemitic?

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  79. Wally says:
    @sarz
    Guyenot says unless we consider that Hitler was working for the glory of Yahweh, applying the expression "Holocaust" in that context seems absurd.

    Okay, but no more absurd than constructing elaborate ruses to get around what Jews themselves deem to be G_d's rules. A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. It's to avert a prophecy of a major Jewish calamity of that magnitude by convincing G_d or his assistants that it's already happened.

    said:
    “A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. ”

    Indeed, the fake 6M has been promoted since at least 1823:

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    see the impossible ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    You have already posted that newspaper collage about a thousand times.
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  80. Ez says:

    “victorious struggle for freedom of the press”

    Is this satire? The “press” is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

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    Is this satire? The “press” is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

    As currently constituted and controlled--YES.
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  81. @annamaria
    "A full blown South-East Asia holocaust, just to cover a 6 day Zionist war, seems out of proportion."
    -- We have been witnessing the 17 years of mass slaughter in the Middle East. Yes, oil is involved. But the initiation of the slaughter was pushed by the proponents of Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Israel wanted the war with Iraq. Israel continues supporting and advocating for the CIA/NATO/ISIS activities against the sovereign state of Syria. Israel is cheerleading for a war with Iran. There are some 4 million dead because of the US/NATO "humanitarian interventions" in the ME. Israel is not satisfied yet with the ongoing Middle Eastern holocaust. Ziocons want more slaughter. And do not forget the very visible presence of ziocons in the Ukrainian tragedy.

    Certainly, Anna.

    The US Billionaires want controll over planetary energy prices/volumes and bomb competitors to hell (Irak, Libya, Syria, Iran…).

    IT’s the Billionaire’s class worldwide, who control events on this planet.

    Many are non-Jews, but are just as immoral as the Jewish Billionaire’s themselves.

    Like Socrates said: moderation in everything is key [no greed].

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  82. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz
    These two books bring out the Jewish role in Kennedy's assassination, and link the involvement in Vietnam to Jewish interest in the heroin trade. It should be remembered that Jews were above Sicilians in the organised crime body we think of as Mafia. Meyer Lanski was at the top.

    Salvador Astucia: Opium lords: Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy assassination (available as a pdf for free download)

    Michael Collins Piper: Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination ...


    I think Guyenot's insight is something we would all have difficulty thinking. But he has hit on the mother lode of Judaic world power, on why the whole world might say "The Jews are our sorrow." Judaism at core is pure satanism, but on the surface and in the view of casual Jews and onlookers it is a religion. It is the cult of self-worship and inescapable hatred of all others, whom it convinces itself are not human and are to be enslaved and endlessly sacrificed for the glory of Jews and to the delight of their god's nostrils. This is the truth in the councils of serious Jews. It is so shocking it is easy to deny. But once you discover it, don't be bullied. Spread the discovery around. The evidence is there, to be found under every rock.

    on why the whole world might say “The Jews are our sorrow.” Judaism at core is pure satanism, but on the surface and in the view of casual Jews and onlookers it is a religion. It is the cult of self-worship and inescapable hatred of all others, whom it convinces itself are not human and are to be enslaved and endlessly sacrificed for the glory of Jews and to the delight of their god’s nostrils.

    Good point.

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  83. Wally says:
    @mcohen
    No oil = no economy
    No economy = no food
    No food = no people
    No people = no problem
    No problem = come off it

    No Jew dominance = much less violence & problems

    The US doesn’t & never did need ME oil.

    Oil is a canard, a smokescreen intended to hide proven Jew sicknesses.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  84. annamaria says:
    @lavoisier
    I do not think Jimmy Carter was an Israel Firster. And perhaps that is why he has been so vilified.

    Agree. The viciousness of the Lobby towards Carter is a clear sign of the Lobby’ belief that the US exists exclusively for the Jewish pleasure.
    A sample by Deborah Lipstadt, written in a pure snitching style: http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48929982.html
    And another sample by an anonymous snitch: http://www.weeklystandard.com/jimmy-carter-anti-semitism-and-more./article/6030

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    DID you notice that all US presidents after finishing their term turn antisemitic.
    Obama did hot even wait until the end of his term!
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  85. @Decoy Jews
    Thank you, Nosey, that reference to Prouty is very apposite. Guyenot is a critic of books implicating CIA for grave crimes. His critique is based on the notion that CIA and the Pentagon and FBI are all independent agencies. Prouty's book, online in its entirety ( https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ ) shows why that contention is all wet. Prouty shows how CIA controls nominally separate government agencies with 'focal points:' illegal domestic CIA agents in federal jobs.

    Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? That's CIA. Israel's impunity is derivative, solely dependent on the DCI's get-out-of-jail-free cards. Pollard spent a long time squirming on his hemorrhoids in Butner.

    The idea that Israel carried out an anti-Russia provocation is interesting. But Israel's armed attack on the Liberty is perfectly consistent with CIA's plan and conspiracy for war. Israel ingratiates itself to the CIA regime by being the perfect henchman - there's nothing they won't do, no atrocity they will not stoop to. CIA's standard operating procedure is to disguise its illegal domestic operations with foreign intelligence handlers. CIA gets the take. If the operation blows up, the spy scandal implicates a foreign country. A classic example:

    https://psmag.com/news/kings-garbage-76228

    Israel is CIA's henchman. They're sucking up to the guys in charge, the CIA.

    “Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? ”

    laughing —-

    that’s easy — the local police

    excuse my levity. I only partially jest.

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    Police certainly do have a form of impunity, but it's informal, based on FOP corruption and prosecutorial misconduct. It's illegal but the law gets suspended by a criminal judiciary. Police can kill blacks all they want, for example, and usually whites, depending on their class, but they don't often get away with pedophile rape. CIA, on the other hand, institutionalizes pedophile rape, establishing child trafficking rings (Franklin Scandal, Epstein, Musha Cay) for NKVD-style VIP kompromat and blackmail. And of course CIA kills and tortures whoever they want. That's because CIA has administrative understandings and legal pretexts that charter them as a criminal enterprise. That gives them absolute sovereignty in Robert Lansing's sense: absence of responsibility. CIA is the state in the way that a king is, or a totalitarian leader with a personality cult. That's why the only way out of this bind we're in is to storm CIA like the Germans stormed the Stasi, and thoroughly purge and de-Ba'athify their networks of cutouts, including the police.
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  86. annamaria says:
    @Anon
    This is what I meant when calling Israel the “psychopathic nation”.

    Well, Israel isn't alone in being psychopathic in the way you mentioned.

    That seems to be the norm.

    Stalin kept the Korean War going on as long as possible because it was to USSR's advantage to have China(ideological competitor with Russia) battling the US(ideological enemy of Russia).

    Later, China did everything to prolong the Vietnam War because it wanted US empire bogged down in Vietnam.

    Foreign Policy is contradictory. It was about dealing with the world, and this implies doing what is good for the world. But not so. It's always about messing with the world for national interest. And this makes the foreign policy of every nation like gangster politics. Look how Turkey manipulates its neighboring region for Turkish national interests.

    So, Israel is no more psychpathic in this regard. The problem is the power of Israel is part of Judea or Empire of Jewish Power. So, Jewish self-interest has wider repercussions than the self-interests of other peoples.

    It's not that Jews are more psychopathic. It's that their psychopathy(a norm in world affairs) has greater reach.

    “Stalin kept the Korean War going on as long as possible because it was to USSR’s advantage to have China (ideological competitor with Russia) battling the US(ideological enemy of Russia). Later, China did everything to prolong the Vietnam War because it wanted US empire bogged down in Vietnam.”
    – The USSR was looking for the advantage to the USSR. China was looking for the advantage to China.
    Jewish power in the United Kingdom and the USA has been looking for the advantage to a foreign country of Israel. Yes, “Jewish self-interest has wider repercussions than the self-interests of other peoples,” including the interests of people in those countries where Jews enjoy their citizenship. This is an amazing cognitive fault that leads to the inevitable unfortunate repercussions both for the “natives” and the ungrateful “self-interested” guests.

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    Jewish power in the United Kingdom and the USA has been looking for the advantage to a foreign country of Israel.

    annamaria,

    Here is a ray of hope. It seems that Israel's goal of dominating Syria is not 100% certain.

    Maybe both Obama and Trump are denying the Jews their goal.

    Trump is the most peace-loving US president Putin will ever know

    A fortnight after sacking Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State and a week after kicking out Lt. General HR McMaster from the National Security Council in the White House, President Donald Trump has made his first major foreign policy move. He announced on Thursday in front of cheering supporters at a rally in Richfield, Ohio,

    “We’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now. By the way, we’re knocking the hell out of ISIS. We’re going to be coming out of there real soon. We’re going to get back to our country, where we belong, where we want to be.”
    In sheer power play, Trump has shattered the coalition between the US foreign and defence establishments, which Tillerson and Defence Secretary James Mattis assiduously built to usurp policymaking

    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2018/04/01/trump-is-the-most-peace-loving-us-president-putin-will-ever-know/
     
    Think Peace --- Art
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  87. @mcohen
    No oil = no economy
    No economy = no food
    No food = no people
    No people = no problem
    No problem = come off it

    No eevull joos= no wars

    No wars= no problem.

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  88. Art says:

    Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7] Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.

    The “six million lie” was at its strongest in 1967 – Israel had the support of the world. The joke of the times was that the Arab tanks had backup lights on them.

    They have pissed that support away – today the world rightfully hates Israel.

    ‘Time for excuses is over’: Gerry Adams urges Ireland to expel Israeli diplomat over Gaza violence

    “There can be no justification or excuse by Israel for the calculated slaughter by Israeli military snipers of unarmed Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border with Israel,” Adams said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422900-gaza-adams-israel-ireland/

    Think Peace — Art

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    Hypocrite Gerry Adams is a terrorist and murderer himself.
    , @anon
    That's attitude in 60s to Arab also was based on pure lies and defamation. Western citizen fell for it to feel better about themselves and to be accepted among the elite international progressive front .
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  89. Z-man says:
    @Brabantian
    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on 'Our First Jewish President', in the '5 Towns Jewish Times', with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a3d339a6886b1257ce4a8aa5d7c109dfdcea67abbde32e57aae58117ee8e7bf.jpg

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port"

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine"

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

     

    Yeah Johnson definitely sucked up to Joo power, I’m glad now he died a broken man and never having done Jackie K-O. (Wry grin)

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  90. bookish1 says:
    @Tbbh
    BTW: The RATIONAL way to look at it was the holicaust was, and is promoted, to distract Americans from the carnage we have done, since 1945, in very much elective wars. You got your cart and horse backwards. 6 million dead jews and a holocaustmuseum works better than 20 million killed by the US since the end of WW2 and a Laos or Iraq museum.

    The original reason for the Holocaust story was to distract from the destruction of Germany during WW2 since it was by far the biggest and most extensive human caused destruction in the history of the world. Germany looked like a lunar landscape with over 100 cities and towns destroyed and masses of old people and women and children targeted for death. They had to take our attention off that by accusing the Germans of a mass genocide of jews that really never happened. Also was the fact that the Soviet government killed millions of people and we allied with them. So we kept that information well hidden from public view.

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    We razed North Korea to the point of killing 20% of the population and scarcely leaving two stacked bricks anywhere. Germany got off light.
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  91. Chuck says:
    @Brabantian
    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on 'Our First Jewish President', in the '5 Towns Jewish Times', with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a3d339a6886b1257ce4a8aa5d7c109dfdcea67abbde32e57aae58117ee8e7bf.jpg

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port"

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine"

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

     

    “Looks huwhite to me!” – Jared Taylor

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  92. Z-man says:
    @lavoisier
    I do not think Jimmy Carter was an Israel Firster. And perhaps that is why he has been so vilified.

    Not now but when he was in power he mostly towed ‘the party line’. Not as bad as his successors but still aware of the power of the tribe. In the comfort of his retirement (he has been a very active ex president) he has criticized the Zionist state which has made it easy for all Jews, so called lefties or Neochoens, to attack him along with the goy Republican cucks who call themselves patriots. In hindsight I salute you Jimmy.

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  93. Tyrion 2 says:

    Surely this article is a satire of the alt right propensity to blame the Jews for everything?

    Surely the author is just using the word ‘Jews’ as a stand-in for interdimensional shape-shifting lizards?

    He’d make more sense.

    If Jews could be both the cause of the Vietnam War and the war’s loss, surely Jews could just have ended the Israel-Palestine conflict in Israel’s favour, inarguably and in a quicker timeline than 70 years!

    Putin annexed the Crimea in a week. Morocco annexed Western Sahara in a day. China annexed Tibet in a month. Yet all-poweful Israel hasn’t even been able to annex Judea in 70 years?

    Bloody South Sudan has had more success.

    You guys are so far off the deep end that there is no swimming out to save you. Literally whatever happens or happened confirms your own crazy theories. There is zero ground between you and forcibly sectioned paranoid schizophrenics. Your delusions are immense.

    I give up and also I don’t care. Either, as I suspect, most people aren’t crazy and you’ll always remain an irrelavant fringe of a fringe of a fringe of utter lunatics or not; in which case the world is screwed regardless as it is mostly populated by the severely retarded.

    It is almost as if you’ve decided to try to preemptively justify the evil conspiracy of your fantasies.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire…

    I’m done.

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    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire…

    I’m done.
     
    Yes you are done --- the representatives of 7,000,000,000 open eyed people, voted against Israel at the UN.

    Defenseless Gaza, 17 dead, 1,400 harmed by the most moral army on the planet. Just like the army of "Passover angles" - an army of IDF snipers killing innocents.

    In 1967 you could get away with your "their are crazy" BS.

    Poor you - it is no longer working - is it. Your words are hollow - empty of truth and honor.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art
    , @Twodees Partain
    Ok, goodbye. have a safe trip.
    , @annamaria
    "Putin annexed the Crimea in a week"
    Hey, Tyrion 2, have you heard about three (3) referenda in Crimea, all three of which resulted in a popular vote for a greater independence from Ukraine? -- No? Never?
    And you also have no idea about the history of Ukraine, the history of Crimea, and about Mr. Khruschev mode of operation in the USSR? -- Then you are becoming the "Quotermeyster" of this forum.
    There are two main causes of the livid hatred towards Russian culture: 1. the banderites displeasure with the powerful neighbor (mind that the banderites are OK with ziocons, see Nuland-Kagan's tender friendship with Pravyj Sector activists); 2. the Jewish hatred towards the independent Russia that does not want to become a feed for the voracious ziocons.
    Neither China nor Morocco put themselves on a pedestal of the "most victimized victim" and the "most moral and most just nation" and other delusions. That was your tribal choice -- to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
    Whether the Lobby in the US or The Friends of Israel in the UK, they have produced the moral devastation that impossible to hide. The ongoing Middle Eastern wars killed your "most moral..." mythology and filled people with disgust. Instead of lamenting the "unfair" attention, learn first about the modern hystory of your tribe.
    The ziocon-controlled Wikipedia is even unable to use the word coup d'etat in relation to the events in Kiev in 2014 and instead the Wikipedia "controllers" use the word "revolution." If that was a revolution, then the referendum in Crimea in 2014 was the purest form of democracy.
    "The 77% of Crimea's population are native speakers of Russian. In the 2014 referendum, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea; 85.5 % voted for joining the Russian Federation. According to survey carried out by Pew Research Center in April 2014, majority of Crimean residents say the referendum was free and fair (91%) and that the government in Kyiv ought to recognize the results of the vote (88%)."
    In short, the reunification of Crimea with Russia was a democratic process unlike the bloody destruction of the former Yugoslavia by the US/NATO.
    When you decide next time, Tyrion 2, to express your Jewish grievances by using the data on unjust annexations, remember Kosovo.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Is that a promise? Be sure to keep your word on this. Thank you.
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  94. Lot says:
    @Brabantian
    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on 'Our First Jewish President', in the '5 Towns Jewish Times', with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a3d339a6886b1257ce4a8aa5d7c109dfdcea67abbde32e57aae58117ee8e7bf.jpg

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port"

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine"

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

     

    The author is a deranged retard.

    No, LBJ’s great grandparents were not Jewish. It takes like two minutes of research to figure this out. Some random website saying otherwise based solely on their common German last names is absurd. But these same idiots think Ike was Jewish too because of his various ancestors’ “Jewish” surnames.

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    April 11 2013 edition of a Long Island NY Jewish community newspaper the
    5 towns Jewish times has a long article claiming Lyndon Johnson was some kind of jew from a Jewish family who pretended to be Protestants.

    Maybe it’s just the trendy Jewish fad of claiming that all sorts of famous people like Christopher Columbus were really Jews. Read the article it’s on the internet.

    That Polish Pope I forget his name had an ethnic Jewish mother whose family became catholic.

    It’s not far fetched.
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  95. @EliteCommInc.
    "Think it through. Who has impunity in municipal law? Who can kill you and torture you and bomb you and get away with it? "



    laughing ----


    that's easy -- the local police


    excuse my levity. I only partially jest.

    Police certainly do have a form of impunity, but it’s informal, based on FOP corruption and prosecutorial misconduct. It’s illegal but the law gets suspended by a criminal judiciary. Police can kill blacks all they want, for example, and usually whites, depending on their class, but they don’t often get away with pedophile rape. CIA, on the other hand, institutionalizes pedophile rape, establishing child trafficking rings (Franklin Scandal, Epstein, Musha Cay) for NKVD-style VIP kompromat and blackmail. And of course CIA kills and tortures whoever they want. That’s because CIA has administrative understandings and legal pretexts that charter them as a criminal enterprise. That gives them absolute sovereignty in Robert Lansing’s sense: absence of responsibility. CIA is the state in the way that a king is, or a totalitarian leader with a personality cult. That’s why the only way out of this bind we’re in is to storm CIA like the Germans stormed the Stasi, and thoroughly purge and de-Ba’athify their networks of cutouts, including the police.

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    I have only one response that makes any reasonable sense --


    The CIA should be treated as the agency they are -- restricted and subject to the laws of the US, our treaty agreements codes to which the US is subject accordingly.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    I thought the CIA got cleaned up after seriously going "off reservation" in the past. The consequences of the CIA's increasingly deranged behavior then(trying to murder Durete, for example) is still being felt by the US to this day.
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  96. Art says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Surely this article is a satire of the alt right propensity to blame the Jews for everything?

    Surely the author is just using the word 'Jews' as a stand-in for interdimensional shape-shifting lizards?

    He'd make more sense.

    If Jews could be both the cause of the Vietnam War and the war's loss, surely Jews could just have ended the Israel-Palestine conflict in Israel's favour, inarguably and in a quicker timeline than 70 years!

    Putin annexed the Crimea in a week. Morocco annexed Western Sahara in a day. China annexed Tibet in a month. Yet all-poweful Israel hasn't even been able to annex Judea in 70 years?

    Bloody South Sudan has had more success.

    You guys are so far off the deep end that there is no swimming out to save you. Literally whatever happens or happened confirms your own crazy theories. There is zero ground between you and forcibly sectioned paranoid schizophrenics. Your delusions are immense.

    I give up and also I don't care. Either, as I suspect, most people aren't crazy and you'll always remain an irrelavant fringe of a fringe of a fringe of utter lunatics or not; in which case the world is screwed regardless as it is mostly populated by the severely retarded.

    It is almost as if you've decided to try to preemptively justify the evil conspiracy of your fantasies.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire...

    I'm done.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire…

    I’m done.

    Yes you are done — the representatives of 7,000,000,000 open eyed people, voted against Israel at the UN.

    Defenseless Gaza, 17 dead, 1,400 harmed by the most moral army on the planet. Just like the army of “Passover angles” – an army of IDF snipers killing innocents.

    In 1967 you could get away with your “their are crazy” BS.

    Poor you – it is no longer working – is it. Your words are hollow – empty of truth and honor.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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  97. @Decoy Jews
    Police certainly do have a form of impunity, but it's informal, based on FOP corruption and prosecutorial misconduct. It's illegal but the law gets suspended by a criminal judiciary. Police can kill blacks all they want, for example, and usually whites, depending on their class, but they don't often get away with pedophile rape. CIA, on the other hand, institutionalizes pedophile rape, establishing child trafficking rings (Franklin Scandal, Epstein, Musha Cay) for NKVD-style VIP kompromat and blackmail. And of course CIA kills and tortures whoever they want. That's because CIA has administrative understandings and legal pretexts that charter them as a criminal enterprise. That gives them absolute sovereignty in Robert Lansing's sense: absence of responsibility. CIA is the state in the way that a king is, or a totalitarian leader with a personality cult. That's why the only way out of this bind we're in is to storm CIA like the Germans stormed the Stasi, and thoroughly purge and de-Ba'athify their networks of cutouts, including the police.

    I have only one response that makes any reasonable sense –

    The CIA should be treated as the agency they are — restricted and subject to the laws of the US, our treaty agreements codes to which the US is subject accordingly.

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  98. @Decoy Jews
    Police certainly do have a form of impunity, but it's informal, based on FOP corruption and prosecutorial misconduct. It's illegal but the law gets suspended by a criminal judiciary. Police can kill blacks all they want, for example, and usually whites, depending on their class, but they don't often get away with pedophile rape. CIA, on the other hand, institutionalizes pedophile rape, establishing child trafficking rings (Franklin Scandal, Epstein, Musha Cay) for NKVD-style VIP kompromat and blackmail. And of course CIA kills and tortures whoever they want. That's because CIA has administrative understandings and legal pretexts that charter them as a criminal enterprise. That gives them absolute sovereignty in Robert Lansing's sense: absence of responsibility. CIA is the state in the way that a king is, or a totalitarian leader with a personality cult. That's why the only way out of this bind we're in is to storm CIA like the Germans stormed the Stasi, and thoroughly purge and de-Ba'athify their networks of cutouts, including the police.

    I thought the CIA got cleaned up after seriously going “off reservation” in the past. The consequences of the CIA’s increasingly deranged behavior then(trying to murder Durete, for example) is still being felt by the US to this day.

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    I am not sure anyone remembers the Church Committee Hearings on CIA conduct.
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  99. @Art
    I do think, however, the last, most vicious Gaza attack of july 2014, was covered up by Netanyahu, consulting with the US/Dutch government as when to stage the MH17 accident.

    Netanyahu is a savage terrorist -PERIOD.

    He has IDF snipers killing Palestinians inside Gaza.

    He says that the IDF is the most moral army in the world.

    How long is humanity going to put up with his insults?

    Think Peace --- Art

    True, a Satanist shooting and killing unarmed Palestinian protesters during the GreatReturnMarch with explosive bullets to maim for live.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/will-israel-pay-price-its-latest-gaza-massacre

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    True, a Satanist shooting and killing unarmed Palestinian protesters during the GreatReturnMarch with explosive bullets to maim for live.


    Max Havelaar,

    This is cruelty on top of murder – it must go before the UN – let Nikki Haley dig a bigger hole for Israel and the US Jews – let her explain this outrage away.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Art
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  100. Art says:
    @annamaria
    "Stalin kept the Korean War going on as long as possible because it was to USSR’s advantage to have China (ideological competitor with Russia) battling the US(ideological enemy of Russia). Later, China did everything to prolong the Vietnam War because it wanted US empire bogged down in Vietnam."
    -- The USSR was looking for the advantage to the USSR. China was looking for the advantage to China.
    Jewish power in the United Kingdom and the USA has been looking for the advantage to a foreign country of Israel. Yes, "Jewish self-interest has wider repercussions than the self-interests of other peoples," including the interests of people in those countries where Jews enjoy their citizenship. This is an amazing cognitive fault that leads to the inevitable unfortunate repercussions both for the "natives" and the ungrateful "self-interested" guests.

    Jewish power in the United Kingdom and the USA has been looking for the advantage to a foreign country of Israel.

    annamaria,

    Here is a ray of hope. It seems that Israel’s goal of dominating Syria is not 100% certain.

    Maybe both Obama and Trump are denying the Jews their goal.

    Trump is the most peace-loving US president Putin will ever know

    A fortnight after sacking Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State and a week after kicking out Lt. General HR McMaster from the National Security Council in the White House, President Donald Trump has made his first major foreign policy move. He announced on Thursday in front of cheering supporters at a rally in Richfield, Ohio,

    “We’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now. By the way, we’re knocking the hell out of ISIS. We’re going to be coming out of there real soon. We’re going to get back to our country, where we belong, where we want to be.”
    In sheer power play, Trump has shattered the coalition between the US foreign and defence establishments, which Tillerson and Defence Secretary James Mattis assiduously built to usurp policymaking

    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2018/04/01/trump-is-the-most-peace-loving-us-president-putin-will-ever-know/

    Think Peace — Art

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  101. Tbbh says:
    @bookish1
    The original reason for the Holocaust story was to distract from the destruction of Germany during WW2 since it was by far the biggest and most extensive human caused destruction in the history of the world. Germany looked like a lunar landscape with over 100 cities and towns destroyed and masses of old people and women and children targeted for death. They had to take our attention off that by accusing the Germans of a mass genocide of jews that really never happened. Also was the fact that the Soviet government killed millions of people and we allied with them. So we kept that information well hidden from public view.

    We razed North Korea to the point of killing 20% of the population and scarcely leaving two stacked bricks anywhere. Germany got off light.

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  102. @Tyrion 2
    Surely this article is a satire of the alt right propensity to blame the Jews for everything?

    Surely the author is just using the word 'Jews' as a stand-in for interdimensional shape-shifting lizards?

    He'd make more sense.

    If Jews could be both the cause of the Vietnam War and the war's loss, surely Jews could just have ended the Israel-Palestine conflict in Israel's favour, inarguably and in a quicker timeline than 70 years!

    Putin annexed the Crimea in a week. Morocco annexed Western Sahara in a day. China annexed Tibet in a month. Yet all-poweful Israel hasn't even been able to annex Judea in 70 years?

    Bloody South Sudan has had more success.

    You guys are so far off the deep end that there is no swimming out to save you. Literally whatever happens or happened confirms your own crazy theories. There is zero ground between you and forcibly sectioned paranoid schizophrenics. Your delusions are immense.

    I give up and also I don't care. Either, as I suspect, most people aren't crazy and you'll always remain an irrelavant fringe of a fringe of a fringe of utter lunatics or not; in which case the world is screwed regardless as it is mostly populated by the severely retarded.

    It is almost as if you've decided to try to preemptively justify the evil conspiracy of your fantasies.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire...

    I'm done.

    Ok, goodbye. have a safe trip.

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  103. Art says:
    @Max Havelaar
    True, a Satanist shooting and killing unarmed Palestinian protesters during the GreatReturnMarch with explosive bullets to maim for live.

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/will-israel-pay-price-its-latest-gaza-massacre

    True, a Satanist shooting and killing unarmed Palestinian protesters during the GreatReturnMarch with explosive bullets to maim for live.

    Max Havelaar,

    This is cruelty on top of murder – it must go before the UN – let Nikki Haley dig a bigger hole for Israel and the US Jews – let her explain this outrage away.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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  104. utu says:

    LAURENT GUYÉNOT? Not the smartest conspiracy theorist.

    Starting war in Vietnam will be good for Israel. So (((they))) start it. Ending the war in Vietnam will be be good for Israel. So (((they))) end it.

    Why Vietnam and not Paraguay? (((They))) were throwing darts at a map? Except Cuba was out of bounds because (((they))) were in cahoots with (((them))) in Kremlin?

    Antiwar movement is bad for (((them))) and Israel. Then it is good for (((them))) and Israel or is it the other way around?

    Certainly one could make a very compelling case that Israel was involved in JFK assassination and in the subsequent RFK assassination. But this author does not do it.

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  105. @Daniel Chieh
    I thought the CIA got cleaned up after seriously going "off reservation" in the past. The consequences of the CIA's increasingly deranged behavior then(trying to murder Durete, for example) is still being felt by the US to this day.

    I am not sure anyone remembers the Church Committee Hearings on CIA conduct.

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  106. Mulegino1 says:

    The fake “Holocaust” is the most effective justification for all the real holocausts perpetrated by the Anglo-American-Zionist condominium over the now seven decades since the end of the Second World War, for it is this fake and calumnious narrative that is at the heart of most of the blood shed by the aforementioned parties from 1940 onwards.

    Whether it is the people of Hanoi, Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Belgrade, Panama City, Baghdad, Tripoli, Benghazi, or Aleppo, Donetsk and Lugansk that have to face airborne slaughter or bear the costs of total war annihilation, there is one common element. If you dig deep enough, you will find a disproportionate tribal preponderance at the core.

    It is certainly not surprising that that corrupt, murdering s.o.b. LBJ was a crypto. The fact that this repulsive figure is still held in relatively high regard by the elites is a symptom of their moral sickness and the utter sycophancy of their court historians.

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  107. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Surely this article is a satire of the alt right propensity to blame the Jews for everything?

    Surely the author is just using the word 'Jews' as a stand-in for interdimensional shape-shifting lizards?

    He'd make more sense.

    If Jews could be both the cause of the Vietnam War and the war's loss, surely Jews could just have ended the Israel-Palestine conflict in Israel's favour, inarguably and in a quicker timeline than 70 years!

    Putin annexed the Crimea in a week. Morocco annexed Western Sahara in a day. China annexed Tibet in a month. Yet all-poweful Israel hasn't even been able to annex Judea in 70 years?

    Bloody South Sudan has had more success.

    You guys are so far off the deep end that there is no swimming out to save you. Literally whatever happens or happened confirms your own crazy theories. There is zero ground between you and forcibly sectioned paranoid schizophrenics. Your delusions are immense.

    I give up and also I don't care. Either, as I suspect, most people aren't crazy and you'll always remain an irrelavant fringe of a fringe of a fringe of utter lunatics or not; in which case the world is screwed regardless as it is mostly populated by the severely retarded.

    It is almost as if you've decided to try to preemptively justify the evil conspiracy of your fantasies.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire...

    I'm done.

    “Putin annexed the Crimea in a week”
    Hey, Tyrion 2, have you heard about three (3) referenda in Crimea, all three of which resulted in a popular vote for a greater independence from Ukraine? — No? Never?
    And you also have no idea about the history of Ukraine, the history of Crimea, and about Mr. Khruschev mode of operation in the USSR? — Then you are becoming the “Quotermeyster” of this forum.
    There are two main causes of the livid hatred towards Russian culture: 1. the banderites displeasure with the powerful neighbor (mind that the banderites are OK with ziocons, see Nuland-Kagan’s tender friendship with Pravyj Sector activists); 2. the Jewish hatred towards the independent Russia that does not want to become a feed for the voracious ziocons.
    Neither China nor Morocco put themselves on a pedestal of the “most victimized victim” and the “most moral and most just nation” and other delusions. That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
    Whether the Lobby in the US or The Friends of Israel in the UK, they have produced the moral devastation that impossible to hide. The ongoing Middle Eastern wars killed your “most moral…” mythology and filled people with disgust. Instead of lamenting the “unfair” attention, learn first about the modern hystory of your tribe.
    The ziocon-controlled Wikipedia is even unable to use the word coup d’etat in relation to the events in Kiev in 2014 and instead the Wikipedia “controllers” use the word “revolution.” If that was a revolution, then the referendum in Crimea in 2014 was the purest form of democracy.
    “The 77% of Crimea’s population are native speakers of Russian. In the 2014 referendum, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea; 85.5 % voted for joining the Russian Federation. According to survey carried out by Pew Research Center in April 2014, majority of Crimean residents say the referendum was free and fair (91%) and that the government in Kyiv ought to recognize the results of the vote (88%).”
    In short, the reunification of Crimea with Russia was a democratic process unlike the bloody destruction of the former Yugoslavia by the US/NATO.
    When you decide next time, Tyrion 2, to express your Jewish grievances by using the data on unjust annexations, remember Kosovo.

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    That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
     
    It is unfortunately NEVER over.
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  108. @Tyrion 2
    Surely this article is a satire of the alt right propensity to blame the Jews for everything?

    Surely the author is just using the word 'Jews' as a stand-in for interdimensional shape-shifting lizards?

    He'd make more sense.

    If Jews could be both the cause of the Vietnam War and the war's loss, surely Jews could just have ended the Israel-Palestine conflict in Israel's favour, inarguably and in a quicker timeline than 70 years!

    Putin annexed the Crimea in a week. Morocco annexed Western Sahara in a day. China annexed Tibet in a month. Yet all-poweful Israel hasn't even been able to annex Judea in 70 years?

    Bloody South Sudan has had more success.

    You guys are so far off the deep end that there is no swimming out to save you. Literally whatever happens or happened confirms your own crazy theories. There is zero ground between you and forcibly sectioned paranoid schizophrenics. Your delusions are immense.

    I give up and also I don't care. Either, as I suspect, most people aren't crazy and you'll always remain an irrelavant fringe of a fringe of a fringe of utter lunatics or not; in which case the world is screwed regardless as it is mostly populated by the severely retarded.

    It is almost as if you've decided to try to preemptively justify the evil conspiracy of your fantasies.

    N.B the above commenter even quotes the famed terrorist and Marxist Gerry Adams to claim that everyone rightly hates Israel. Again, beyond satire...

    I'm done.

    Is that a promise? Be sure to keep your word on this. Thank you.

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  109. @bjondo
    You are slightly confused. the English and Americans were doing the butchering not the Germans. The Nazis had no plan, intention of slaughtering 6 million (you were not specific about whom). And certainly were not in a contest with Japan.

    Are you scripting a delusional Hollywood movie to add to the already massive catalog of delusional WW2 movies?

    It’s almost as if Mr. Wong harbors an intense, irrational hatred towards Japanese people, or something. Now why would that be?

    The “Rape of Nanking” seems to serve the same purpose for his people that the “death camp” narrative does for the chosen people (and the “comfort women” for the Koreans) — a focus for their hatred, and justification for their belief that their enemies of 70+ years ago are still the evilest evil ever; collectively guilty of sins that can never be expiated. An interesting parallel.

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    If the decedents of those beastly barbaric war criminals Japanese are indeed different from their insane forebears why are Japanese denying the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace not committed by them but by their forebears? Meanwhile are the Japanese worshipping their beastly barbaric criminals in their shrines?

    Why can’t the Japanese show remorse about their beastly barbaric war crimes like the German, and make anyone denying war crimes a criminal offense like the German? Doesn’t such deed prove they are not the same as their criminal forebears and earn them a moral standing among the victims? Why doesn’t the Japanese do such morally right things to detach themselves from their evilest evil past? What is the Japanese hiding and why are the Japanese afraid of showing remorse on behalf of their forebears for the wrongs they have done if they are not the same as their criminal forebears?

    But the Japanese are different, they continuously deny about their inhuman atrocities, wrongful acts and invasion during the world wars. The Japanese PM Abe and many political figures there publicly regularly deny what the country had done in WWII. More importantly, his cabinet received overwhelming support from Japanese. This nation and many of its people were not only evil but has lost their conscience to enable them to be a normal person. Such nation and people are a real danger to other countries.

    The Chinese and other war crime victims have the obligation to prevent such disaster and atrocities happening to them again, reminding such suffering and rebuttal war crime denial are some of the ways and their natural rights to protect themselves, and watching out the unrepentant war criminals from repeating their crimes.

    But the American and Anglo are defending the war criminal Japanese and denying, whitewashing and glossing over the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace like the Japanese by blaming the victims aggressively and accusing the victims harboring fabricated intense and irrational hatred towards unrepentant war criminal Japanese. The American and Anglo’s behaviour is puzzling, why are the Americans and Anglo white washing war crimes they did not commit, and defending the unrepentant war criminal Japanese once they joined hands with the victims like Chinese to defeat before? Why are the American and the Anglo doing such morally defunct and logically twisted things? Why are the American and Anglo wanting the victims to forget their perpetrator’s crimes? What is the American and Anglo’s agenda?
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  110. WhiteWolf says:
    @sarz
    This is a stunning discovery. Yes, of course. This is what Judaism on its own account really is. It is a warning to goys, of course, but more than that it is a disclosure to everyone of Jewish descent. This is what is lurking behind every respectable synagogue. There is no excuse for not knowing. Do not expect to be excused as an innocent if you have ever played the antisemitism game.

    It’s what all the abrahamic “religions” are about in the end. Power.

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    Only the Torah is about power.
    , @sarz
    No, Christianity and Islam never reduce others to the status of animals with no rights. Judaism does, in its heart, when no one is watching, including stupid Jews who are the icing on the Judaic cake. These ones stand up once a year to recite Kol Nidre (look it up) without knowing what it means. And on cue they play the antisemitism game.
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  111. bjondo says:
    @WhiteWolf
    It's what all the abrahamic "religions" are about in the end. Power.

    Only the Torah is about power.

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    The OT is pretty much the same thing as the Torah. The NT is crypto-communism.

    There are no magical beings in the sky. The non existent magical beings didn't write any "holy" books. Men did. Men solely interested in power.
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  112. WhiteWolf says:
    @mcohen
    The last paragraph has me worried.

    kristol "could have"......

    Then youthful idealists.....protesting.

    All these connections kennedy and johnson,israel and the arabs,all have one thing in common.oil.
    There are huge oil deposits in the gulf of tonkin.mobil was involved in 1975.
    There is oil in the middle east.no mention is made of this fact by the author.
    Now you want to blame israel for the vietnam holocaust.
    How long have the school shootings been going on.why has it taken so long for "youthful idealists" to take a stand.and now you want to hijack that energy to oppose israel, the very country that has promoted american interests in the middle east.the cynical attempt to blame israel for the "vietnam holicaust" is as disgusting

    Fix the school shooting you fucking morons.

    You mean school shooting psyops surely?

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  113. WhiteWolf says:
    @bjondo
    Only the Torah is about power.

    The OT is pretty much the same thing as the Torah. The NT is crypto-communism.

    There are no magical beings in the sky. The non existent magical beings didn’t write any “holy” books. Men did. Men solely interested in power.

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  114. @annamaria
    Agree. The viciousness of the Lobby towards Carter is a clear sign of the Lobby' belief that the US exists exclusively for the Jewish pleasure.
    A sample by Deborah Lipstadt, written in a pure snitching style: http://www.aish.com/ci/s/48929982.html
    And another sample by an anonymous snitch: http://www.weeklystandard.com/jimmy-carter-anti-semitism-and-more./article/6030

    DID you notice that all US presidents after finishing their term turn antisemitic.
    Obama did hot even wait until the end of his term!

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    There are plenty of letters by Truman and Eleanor Roosevelt about how they felt about Jews.
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  115. @Joe Wong
    The beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese managed to kill more than 300,000 in Nanking within few weeks just used bayonets and knives. The Jap is following codoh.com to deny their war crimes. During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, Nazi would be labeled as a laughing stock by the beastly Jap if they couldn't slaughter 6 million in more than 5 years.

    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

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    The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals, they invaded, destroyed and carried out atrocities against other people without provocations, they committed crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes. They are denying their crimes with obfuscation and fake news so that they can recommit those crimes on the moral high ground just like their morally defunct barbaric forebears.

    The Japanese and the westerners fabricated numbers of casualties and reconstructed the events in China as well as around the world to form part of their obfuscation and fake news as diversion to white wash and gloss over their war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they have been committing around the world since 1648, so you, the Jap and the West can say the others killed themselves more so their murder, torture, looting, war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace are not crimes.

    It is their innate twisted mentality that your family fuel is the legal basis for them to murder you and ransack your home with impunity on the moral high ground. The Jap and the West particular the Anglo are very resentful that others reminding their wrongful past so that they cannot commit crimes on the moral high ground, and they become repeat offenders, a psychopathic one.
    , @lavoisier

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.
     

    No. He is definitely not the man for the job. Joe Wong only sees the evil of others. He cannot look in the mirror nor conceive that his own people perpetrated a world class holocaust that makes the more celebrated exploits of the Nazis look like nothing.

    I cannot help noticing the similarity between him and the celebrated anti-racist Tim Wise. Both are incredibly hateful and stupid racists.

    He has a future at CNN or the SPLC.

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  116. schrub says:

    The author of this article fails to mention probably what I consider to be probably the single strongest influence on LBJ regarding Israel in the 1960s.

    How many people saw the January, 2018 news articles mentioning the death of Mathilde Krim?
    Why was Mathilde so important to what was going on in American foreign policy regarding Israel during this period?

    Mathilde Krim was LBJ’s mistress in the 1960s while at the same time also being a fervent, longtime supporter and alleged spy for Israel. Her support for Israel extended all the back to the days when she provided support for the terrorist group The Irgun there in the later 1940s.

    The brilliant, sophisticated, and beautiful Mathilde must have provided a complete counterpoint to LBJ:s wife, the dowdy, dumpy and intellectually wanting Ladybird Johnson.

    Apparently Mathilde Krim’s relationship with LBJ was well known among the top circles in Washington DC but deliberately overlooked by the media. Interestingly, the relationship was also apparently going on with the full knowledge of Mathilde”s very wealthy husband Arthur Krim, another very powerful and fanatical backer of Israel. Apparently, he was willing to make this particular sacrifice if it benefitted The Land of The Chosen.

    LBJ’s pillow talk with Mathilde must have consisted of the very bright and crafty Mathilde constantly trying (pumping ?) LBJ to get the latest top secret information about which she then allegedly quickly passed to the Mossad

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_Krim

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  117. @Anonymous

    In this article, I am not going to demonstrate, but simply hypothesize
     
    Now that's quality journalism! Why oh why are these perspectives systematically excluded from the mainstream media??

    I don’t even read Salier much anymore because I see the stupid headlines on the right out of the corner of my eye. This one must set a new record.

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  118. “Could the Washington Post and the New York Times have managed to hide from the public the scandal of that war of aggression and illegal annexation?”

    This is actually a dumber sentence than the more overtly nonsensical sentences that surround it. Do you think Americans in 1967 would ever have cared? The notion that there a wave of pro-Arab sentiment would have been unleashed in 1960s America if only there had not been Vietnam to distract the public is ridiculous. (I don’t think that Americans in those long-ago days before 9/11 were particularly anti-Arab, nor did they have any reason to be, but they had no reason to be pro-Arab either.)

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  119. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    I agree with your post. I’m pretty sure that the year Kennedy died he had 40,000 combat troops in Vietnam.

    Kennedy was a real cold warrior and very anti communist, “ Pay any price, bear any burden” The Kennedys owned the liberal media because old Joe had been paying them off since 1920.

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  120. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hu Mi Yu
    The facts in this article are the way I remember them, but they are selected to blame Israel. Much of the blame for Vietnam belongs on Eisenhower and his British patrons. Kennedy needed Eisenhower's support to win the nomination, and Eisenhower came to Kennedy's aid in the general election at the last minute by claiming that it would take him a week to think of something Vice President Nixon had done during his administration.

    Eisenhower was promoted from obscurity by the British. They wanted him to lead the Allies, because he was easily manipulated. He doted on the young queen and Churchill's daughters. All they had to do was send a woman, and he would believe anything they told him. They buttered him up to the point that he thought he was the greatest general in history. He was going to fight the glorious Battle of Armageddon by invading China and rolling back communism.

    His plan of battle was first invading Cuba, then throwing communists out of Vietnam, and then Korea. Then he was going to form an alliance with Russia to invade China (Here he used Hitler's short-lived arrangement with Stalin as a model).

    All this would require more than two terms as president, and he believed he could be re-elected again and again. He didn't read much, and during his second term someone managed to explain the 22nd amendment to him. He was outraged.

    His backup plan was the creation of the deep state (aka organized crime) to prevent his opponents from shielding themselves behind the constitution. Then he cut the deal for Kennedy to back fellow Texan Lyndon Johnson for Vice President knowing that Kennedy could be taken out at any time.

    Vietnam and China were active targets for French and British imperialism at the time.

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

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    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.
     
    He didn't do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.
     
    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn't really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.
     
    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
     
    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner's strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin's replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike's treatment of German POWs.
    , @Joe Wong
    Eisenhower is a white supreme racist and Orientalist, he identified with Russian; in his memoirs he said “no matter what difference in culture and tradition, value or language, the Russian leaders were human beings, and they wanted to remain alive like us.”

    He further said “We are always wrong when we believe that Orientals think logically as we do.” Eisenhower is a continuation of old days of colonialism and hard core zero-sum cold war warrior.
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  121. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @bjondo
    I recognize war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace, crimes against truth, crimes against decency, crimes, committed by the English, the Amurderkans, and the Overlord-of-Crime of both, the Jew.

    Japan I know only as an American puppet.

    The Japanese behaved monstrously in the countries they occupied during WW2. That is what Joe Wong is writing about. I know a Filipino woman whose 2 uncles were actually crucified by the Japanese right in the city plaza during the Japanese occupation.

    There is plenty of information about the horrors of the Japanese concentration camps, POW camps and abuse of civilians.

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  122. sarz says:
    @WhiteWolf
    It's what all the abrahamic "religions" are about in the end. Power.

    No, Christianity and Islam never reduce others to the status of animals with no rights. Judaism does, in its heart, when no one is watching, including stupid Jews who are the icing on the Judaic cake. These ones stand up once a year to recite Kol Nidre (look it up) without knowing what it means. And on cue they play the antisemitism game.

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  123. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Israel Shamir
    Excellent piece altogether, at least some parts of it sound true, in particular Lyndon B Johnson's pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish attitudes. Johnson's father had been instrumental in pardoning the lynched Jewish killer of a young girl. He was a close friend to a lady who was a full-fledged Israeli agent. It is dangerous to have such a vice-president, and that is what the US has now; extremely pro-Israeli VP Pence waiting in the wings for Trump to fail.
    However, while referring to anti-war movement, it is over-simplification. The US had draft army, not a mercenary one as now. This was the reason for anti-war movement then, and not now.
    1968 rising in Paris can't be reduced to Jewish manipulations. The Jewish activists betrayed the uprising, like the Jewish trade union leaders betrayed the underpaid workers, but the cause of the rising was fine and just. I loved 1968 and still love it. This failed and betrayed revolution is the source of many consequent events.
    Jews do change sides, it is true. Leon Trotsky or Danny Cohn-Bendit are prime examples. But their betrayals do not invalidate the cause or the movement.
    Even if CIA had been behind publication of Pentagon Papers, it was a good thing. Ditto Snowden.

    I always thought the French 1968 uprising was done on orders of Israel. Didn’t De Gualle refuse to do something Israel wanted and in retaliation Israel and Cohn Bendit and the test carried out the uprising?

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  124. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Israel Shamir
    Excellent piece altogether, at least some parts of it sound true, in particular Lyndon B Johnson's pro-Israeli and pro-Jewish attitudes. Johnson's father had been instrumental in pardoning the lynched Jewish killer of a young girl. He was a close friend to a lady who was a full-fledged Israeli agent. It is dangerous to have such a vice-president, and that is what the US has now; extremely pro-Israeli VP Pence waiting in the wings for Trump to fail.
    However, while referring to anti-war movement, it is over-simplification. The US had draft army, not a mercenary one as now. This was the reason for anti-war movement then, and not now.
    1968 rising in Paris can't be reduced to Jewish manipulations. The Jewish activists betrayed the uprising, like the Jewish trade union leaders betrayed the underpaid workers, but the cause of the rising was fine and just. I loved 1968 and still love it. This failed and betrayed revolution is the source of many consequent events.
    Jews do change sides, it is true. Leon Trotsky or Danny Cohn-Bendit are prime examples. But their betrayals do not invalidate the cause or the movement.
    Even if CIA had been behind publication of Pentagon Papers, it was a good thing. Ditto Snowden.

    That lady was Mathilda Krim wife of financial market manipulator Arthur Krim.

    What a bunch of crooks American presidents are.

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  125. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, "

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    www.codoh.com

    Wally, there is a great deal material about the awful things Japan did during WW2. Joe is Chinese he probably has relatives who remember the horrors.

    For a couple hundred dollars you can get a library card at universities. There is a lot of material available. There are many sources other than the history * channel and the internet.

    * history aka hitler channel

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    Libraries are full of witchcraft testimony too.

    Joe's trying the 'I'm a victim' routine', he has no proof.

    Where's the necessary physical evidence that should be available to see?

    www.codoh.com
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  126. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7] Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.
     
    The "six million lie" was at its strongest in 1967 - Israel had the support of the world. The joke of the times was that the Arab tanks had backup lights on them.

    They have pissed that support away - today the world rightfully hates Israel.

    ‘Time for excuses is over’: Gerry Adams urges Ireland to expel Israeli diplomat over Gaza violence

    "There can be no justification or excuse by Israel for the calculated slaughter by Israeli military snipers of unarmed Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border with Israel," Adams said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422900-gaza-adams-israel-ireland/
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    Hypocrite Gerry Adams is a terrorist and murderer himself.

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  127. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    The author is a deranged retard.

    No, LBJ's great grandparents were not Jewish. It takes like two minutes of research to figure this out. Some random website saying otherwise based solely on their common German last names is absurd. But these same idiots think Ike was Jewish too because of his various ancestors' "Jewish" surnames.

    April 11 2013 edition of a Long Island NY Jewish community newspaper the
    5 towns Jewish times has a long article claiming Lyndon Johnson was some kind of jew from a Jewish family who pretended to be Protestants.

    Maybe it’s just the trendy Jewish fad of claiming that all sorts of famous people like Christopher Columbus were really Jews. Read the article it’s on the internet.

    That Polish Pope I forget his name had an ethnic Jewish mother whose family became catholic.

    It’s not far fetched.

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    "That Polish Pope I forget his name..."

    John Paul II aka St. John Paul the Great
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  128. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    DID you notice that all US presidents after finishing their term turn antisemitic.
    Obama did hot even wait until the end of his term!

    There are plenty of letters by Truman and Eleanor Roosevelt about how they felt about Jews.

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  129. j2 says:
    @Brabantian
    From the article Laurent Guyénot mentions above, on 'Our First Jewish President', in the '5 Towns Jewish Times', with first here a photo of the young LBJ in Texas, indeed looking rather Jewish:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a3d339a6886b1257ce4a8aa5d7c109dfdcea67abbde32e57aae58117ee8e7bf.jpg

    Lyndon Johnson’s maternal ancestors, the Huffmans, apparently migrated from Germany sometime in the mid-eighteenth century.

    Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port"

    Johnson raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine"

    While serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign

    Johnson’s closest advisers were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen and Abe Fortas

     

    It is not essential to assume LBJ was of Jewish origins, since the aunt and probably LBJ belonged to Christadelphians, who consider restoration of Israel as necessary for the Second Coming of Jesus and have the nation of Israel in a central place in their teachings.

    Secondly just commenting the claim in the article, not responding to the comment: there may be better reasons for the Vietnam war than as a distraction of Israel’s six day war. In the Bible it is said that after the restoration of Israel there is to be a war all the time (for Christian Zionists up to the Second Coming). By the Old Testament and Zohar there should be the destruction of the Kings of Edom (Christians or non-Jews), all other nations will be enslaved or destroyed. Zionism is (cynically but still) realizing end-of-the-times prophesies. It is too rational to look for explanations from distraction or other tactical motives. These effects are side effects to strategical goals. These side effects can be useful, but they only confirm the wisdom of the path of actions. In the same way: holocaust had to be primarily as it was in prophesies, but secondarily it was tactically useful since not all European Jews could be taken to Israel in the early years.

    The article was very good in illuminating the Zionist connections of LBJ, I had not known it before, but it fits perfectly well to the assassination of JFK, blamed on Cubans, who blame it on a conspiracy of bankers, Meyer Lansky’s mafia family, CIA, and Cuban refugees. That seems as the correct group, only without spelling out the four-letter word.

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  130. Joe Wong says:
    @byrresheim
    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals, they invaded, destroyed and carried out atrocities against other people without provocations, they committed crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes. They are denying their crimes with obfuscation and fake news so that they can recommit those crimes on the moral high ground just like their morally defunct barbaric forebears.

    The Japanese and the westerners fabricated numbers of casualties and reconstructed the events in China as well as around the world to form part of their obfuscation and fake news as diversion to white wash and gloss over their war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they have been committing around the world since 1648, so you, the Jap and the West can say the others killed themselves more so their murder, torture, looting, war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace are not crimes.

    It is their innate twisted mentality that your family fuel is the legal basis for them to murder you and ransack your home with impunity on the moral high ground. The Jap and the West particular the Anglo are very resentful that others reminding their wrongful past so that they cannot commit crimes on the moral high ground, and they become repeat offenders, a psychopathic one.

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    "The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals"

    Exactly. Every other people in the world is far inferior to the glorious Han, not only morally, but in every other possible way. I couldn't have put it better myself. Excellent point.
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  131. Joe Wong says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "During that time the beastly Jap and Nazi were allies and out doing each other in butchering, "

    Yet you produce no physical evidence which would necessarily exist for all to see.
    We know why.
    alleged of Germany:

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    www.codoh.com

    There are plenty of artifacts in the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese crime sites and museums in China as well as in other Asian nations, you should go there to check it out yourself, it might change your mind about defending those beastly barbarians after you see the cruelty yourself, presumably you are one of us, not one of those unrepentant beasts.

    One of the strategies the unrepentant war criminal Japanese adopted is to wait until all witnesses of their crimes die off, then they call for witness to testify after they reconstruct the crime sites. You and codoh.com is the vanguard in this field.

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    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

    www.codoh.com
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  132. Joe Wong says:
    @James Forrestal
    It's almost as if Mr. Wong harbors an intense, irrational hatred towards Japanese people, or something. Now why would that be?

    The "Rape of Nanking" seems to serve the same purpose for his people that the "death camp" narrative does for the chosen people (and the "comfort women" for the Koreans) -- a focus for their hatred, and justification for their belief that their enemies of 70+ years ago are still the evilest evil ever; collectively guilty of sins that can never be expiated. An interesting parallel.

    If the decedents of those beastly barbaric war criminals Japanese are indeed different from their insane forebears why are Japanese denying the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace not committed by them but by their forebears? Meanwhile are the Japanese worshipping their beastly barbaric criminals in their shrines?

    Why can’t the Japanese show remorse about their beastly barbaric war crimes like the German, and make anyone denying war crimes a criminal offense like the German? Doesn’t such deed prove they are not the same as their criminal forebears and earn them a moral standing among the victims? Why doesn’t the Japanese do such morally right things to detach themselves from their evilest evil past? What is the Japanese hiding and why are the Japanese afraid of showing remorse on behalf of their forebears for the wrongs they have done if they are not the same as their criminal forebears?

    But the Japanese are different, they continuously deny about their inhuman atrocities, wrongful acts and invasion during the world wars. The Japanese PM Abe and many political figures there publicly regularly deny what the country had done in WWII. More importantly, his cabinet received overwhelming support from Japanese. This nation and many of its people were not only evil but has lost their conscience to enable them to be a normal person. Such nation and people are a real danger to other countries.

    The Chinese and other war crime victims have the obligation to prevent such disaster and atrocities happening to them again, reminding such suffering and rebuttal war crime denial are some of the ways and their natural rights to protect themselves, and watching out the unrepentant war criminals from repeating their crimes.

    But the American and Anglo are defending the war criminal Japanese and denying, whitewashing and glossing over the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace like the Japanese by blaming the victims aggressively and accusing the victims harboring fabricated intense and irrational hatred towards unrepentant war criminal Japanese. The American and Anglo’s behaviour is puzzling, why are the Americans and Anglo white washing war crimes they did not commit, and defending the unrepentant war criminal Japanese once they joined hands with the victims like Chinese to defeat before? Why are the American and the Anglo doing such morally defunct and logically twisted things? Why are the American and Anglo wanting the victims to forget their perpetrator’s crimes? What is the American and Anglo’s agenda?

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    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don't harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those "dwarf bandits," and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You're right-- they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more-- just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain "beasts" and "criminals," while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans....

    Interesting.

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  133. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Anon
    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He didn’t do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner’s strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin’s replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike’s treatment of German POWs.

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    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of "posse comitatus" laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian "law enforcement".
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.
    , @Hu Mi Yu

    I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president
     
    I did a web search, and Joe Bonono returns articles about Joe Bonanno. This is not the same person. Joe Bonanno was from southern Italy, but Joe Bonono was from northern Italy. He was a deep state ringer for the other Joe. In published photos of Bonono the right side of his face is obscured, because he had a mole or blemish there that would have blown his cover.
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  134. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon
    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.

    Eisenhower is a white supreme racist and Orientalist, he identified with Russian; in his memoirs he said “no matter what difference in culture and tradition, value or language, the Russian leaders were human beings, and they wanted to remain alive like us.”

    He further said “We are always wrong when we believe that Orientals think logically as we do.” Eisenhower is a continuation of old days of colonialism and hard core zero-sum cold war warrior.

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  135. anarchyst says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.
     
    He didn't do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.
     
    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn't really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.
     
    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
     
    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner's strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin's replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike's treatment of German POWs.

    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of “posse comitatus” laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian “law enforcement”.
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.

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    There are exceptions to Posse Comitatus.
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  136. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Ez
    "victorious struggle for freedom of the press"

    Is this satire? The "press" is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

    Is this satire? The “press” is the enemy of all mankind and it needs to be utterly destroyed.

    As currently constituted and controlled–YES.

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  137. lavoisier says: • Website
    @annamaria
    "Putin annexed the Crimea in a week"
    Hey, Tyrion 2, have you heard about three (3) referenda in Crimea, all three of which resulted in a popular vote for a greater independence from Ukraine? -- No? Never?
    And you also have no idea about the history of Ukraine, the history of Crimea, and about Mr. Khruschev mode of operation in the USSR? -- Then you are becoming the "Quotermeyster" of this forum.
    There are two main causes of the livid hatred towards Russian culture: 1. the banderites displeasure with the powerful neighbor (mind that the banderites are OK with ziocons, see Nuland-Kagan's tender friendship with Pravyj Sector activists); 2. the Jewish hatred towards the independent Russia that does not want to become a feed for the voracious ziocons.
    Neither China nor Morocco put themselves on a pedestal of the "most victimized victim" and the "most moral and most just nation" and other delusions. That was your tribal choice -- to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
    Whether the Lobby in the US or The Friends of Israel in the UK, they have produced the moral devastation that impossible to hide. The ongoing Middle Eastern wars killed your "most moral..." mythology and filled people with disgust. Instead of lamenting the "unfair" attention, learn first about the modern hystory of your tribe.
    The ziocon-controlled Wikipedia is even unable to use the word coup d'etat in relation to the events in Kiev in 2014 and instead the Wikipedia "controllers" use the word "revolution." If that was a revolution, then the referendum in Crimea in 2014 was the purest form of democracy.
    "The 77% of Crimea's population are native speakers of Russian. In the 2014 referendum, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea; 85.5 % voted for joining the Russian Federation. According to survey carried out by Pew Research Center in April 2014, majority of Crimean residents say the referendum was free and fair (91%) and that the government in Kyiv ought to recognize the results of the vote (88%)."
    In short, the reunification of Crimea with Russia was a democratic process unlike the bloody destruction of the former Yugoslavia by the US/NATO.
    When you decide next time, Tyrion 2, to express your Jewish grievances by using the data on unjust annexations, remember Kosovo.

    That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.

    It is unfortunately NEVER over.

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    "It is unfortunately NEVER over."

    Exactly. Why give up promoting a narrative that has worked so well, and can still be exploited? Sure, you get the occasional righteous Jew like Finkelstein who objects... but ya gotta stay on top of the progressive stack. Besides, just think of the shekels!
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  138. lavoisier says: • Website
    @byrresheim
    I always find it interesting how the Chinese keep mentioning (justly so, make no mistake) Japanese atrocities against Chiniese but keep complete silence about what Chinese did to other Chinese in the decades after the Japanese were ousted from China.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    Perhaps you are the man to explain the phenomenon?

    After all, we are talking about several times the number of victims.

    No. He is definitely not the man for the job. Joe Wong only sees the evil of others. He cannot look in the mirror nor conceive that his own people perpetrated a world class holocaust that makes the more celebrated exploits of the Nazis look like nothing.

    I cannot help noticing the similarity between him and the celebrated anti-racist Tim Wise. Both are incredibly hateful and stupid racists.

    He has a future at CNN or the SPLC.

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  139. “It is on record, thanks to Kennedy insider Arthur Schlesinger (A Thousand Days, 1965) that it was in fact Philip Graham and Joseph Alsop, respectively publisher and columnist of the Washington Post, both strong supporters of Israel, who convinced Kennedy to take Johnson on his ticket, in a closed door conversation.”

    Philip Graham, of course, was also the head of the newspaper side of the CIA’s media control project, Operation Mockingbird (which [216] mentioned previously). And the husband of Katherine Meyer Graham, the Post’s owner.

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  140. @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    Thanks anarchist- I well remember those late 60s , early 70s days when I was in USMC. I also remember the NY Times and other Bolshevik papers showing daily hate for ALL members of the USA Armed Forces.

    Older and smarter people made me wise to the fact that over at least 75 % of the USA’s antiwar protestors didn’t care about the Vietnamese people or the Palestinians. Noam Chomsky loved the attention he was getting as “head activist”- all those coeds marching with him, and unlike the grunt overseas, Chomsky got to sleep in the finest hotels, and he also never had a bad word to say about Israel.

    These older men told me when I got out of Corps after several years of service that all the protests were about a thing called the DRAFT. These men included a doctor, a lawyer, and dozens of veterans.
    My father was in WW2 and he was against warmongers (hated them) and he tried to get me to understand that all the people I knew got out of the draft because they didn’t want any discomfort in their lives and were just plain afraid for their own skins. My classmates in high school didn’t care about the Vietnamese people- only about their own skins. It was fine with me that they didn’t want to go to Vietnam but they also refused service when Army recruiters would get signed documents stationing them in Germany and other safe assignments.
    The blue collar street kids I hung out with all got drafted and went into the military.

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    I was in USMC 1969 to 1971 with one tour in Vietnam and also experienced the hatred that civilians had for us. The only "woodstock" I saw was on my M-14...lol
    Welcome home and Semper Fi, brother!
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  141. @Joe Wong
    If the decedents of those beastly barbaric war criminals Japanese are indeed different from their insane forebears why are Japanese denying the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace not committed by them but by their forebears? Meanwhile are the Japanese worshipping their beastly barbaric criminals in their shrines?

    Why can’t the Japanese show remorse about their beastly barbaric war crimes like the German, and make anyone denying war crimes a criminal offense like the German? Doesn’t such deed prove they are not the same as their criminal forebears and earn them a moral standing among the victims? Why doesn’t the Japanese do such morally right things to detach themselves from their evilest evil past? What is the Japanese hiding and why are the Japanese afraid of showing remorse on behalf of their forebears for the wrongs they have done if they are not the same as their criminal forebears?

    But the Japanese are different, they continuously deny about their inhuman atrocities, wrongful acts and invasion during the world wars. The Japanese PM Abe and many political figures there publicly regularly deny what the country had done in WWII. More importantly, his cabinet received overwhelming support from Japanese. This nation and many of its people were not only evil but has lost their conscience to enable them to be a normal person. Such nation and people are a real danger to other countries.

    The Chinese and other war crime victims have the obligation to prevent such disaster and atrocities happening to them again, reminding such suffering and rebuttal war crime denial are some of the ways and their natural rights to protect themselves, and watching out the unrepentant war criminals from repeating their crimes.

    But the American and Anglo are defending the war criminal Japanese and denying, whitewashing and glossing over the war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace like the Japanese by blaming the victims aggressively and accusing the victims harboring fabricated intense and irrational hatred towards unrepentant war criminal Japanese. The American and Anglo’s behaviour is puzzling, why are the Americans and Anglo white washing war crimes they did not commit, and defending the unrepentant war criminal Japanese once they joined hands with the victims like Chinese to defeat before? Why are the American and the Anglo doing such morally defunct and logically twisted things? Why are the American and Anglo wanting the victims to forget their perpetrator’s crimes? What is the American and Anglo’s agenda?

    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don’t harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those “dwarf bandits,” and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You’re right– they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more– just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain “beasts” and “criminals,” while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans….

    Interesting.

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    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.
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  142. Thanks Unz Review for educating me with your brilliant columnists and also for the detailed, enlightening Comments that many leave.
    The NY Times has always been a pawn.
    The Zionist Spielberg gave us another story about the Pentagon Papers and Watergate Days, etc, but will we ever see a movie about the incredible evil done by Hilary Clinton and her FBI accomplices (and lots of other accomplices) against the Trump campaign and Presidency?

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    You will also never see a movie about Israeli crimes, which are epic.
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  143. @Joe Wong
    The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals, they invaded, destroyed and carried out atrocities against other people without provocations, they committed crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes. They are denying their crimes with obfuscation and fake news so that they can recommit those crimes on the moral high ground just like their morally defunct barbaric forebears.

    The Japanese and the westerners fabricated numbers of casualties and reconstructed the events in China as well as around the world to form part of their obfuscation and fake news as diversion to white wash and gloss over their war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they have been committing around the world since 1648, so you, the Jap and the West can say the others killed themselves more so their murder, torture, looting, war crimes, crimes against humanity and peace are not crimes.

    It is their innate twisted mentality that your family fuel is the legal basis for them to murder you and ransack your home with impunity on the moral high ground. The Jap and the West particular the Anglo are very resentful that others reminding their wrongful past so that they cannot commit crimes on the moral high ground, and they become repeat offenders, a psychopathic one.

    “The Japanese like the psychopathic Westerners are unrepentant war criminals”

    Exactly. Every other people in the world is far inferior to the glorious Han, not only morally, but in every other possible way. I couldn’t have put it better myself. Excellent point.

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  144. @lavoisier

    That was your tribal choice — to demand from the world the absolute and unquestionable respect for your incomparable suffering and moral superiority (the holocaust biz). This is over.
     
    It is unfortunately NEVER over.

    “It is unfortunately NEVER over.”

    Exactly. Why give up promoting a narrative that has worked so well, and can still be exploited? Sure, you get the occasional righteous Jew like Finkelstein who objects… but ya gotta stay on top of the progressive stack. Besides, just think of the shekels!

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  145. I see that the hasbara hacks have lit here. As far as the mythical figure of 6 million jews dying. It is a made up figure that will NEVER be proved. Good piece by the way. The zionist tentacles spread far and wide.

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  146. @Lost american
    Thanks Unz Review for educating me with your brilliant columnists and also for the detailed, enlightening Comments that many leave.
    The NY Times has always been a pawn.
    The Zionist Spielberg gave us another story about the Pentagon Papers and Watergate Days, etc, but will we ever see a movie about the incredible evil done by Hilary Clinton and her FBI accomplices (and lots of other accomplices) against the Trump campaign and Presidency?

    You will also never see a movie about Israeli crimes, which are epic.

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  147. gepay says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    " I have no doubt Israel was involved ... in the assassination of JFK. "

    Israel had no role in the murder of JFK. If any Israeli had any knowledge of what went down in Dallas on November 22, 1963, they were Mossad agents who were chummy with CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton. And Angleton did have an operational role in the assassination.

    The masterminds behind the murder of JFK were CIA elites around Allen Dulles, like Angleton. The mafia played an important role. The anti-Castro Cubans were muscle.

    Oswald was intended to be killed in the movie theater. He stated he was just a patsy. He couldn’t go to trial. Jacob Rubinstein was needed to kill Oswald. Yes he did have mafia ties but then again there are people like Meyer Lansky who had power. Ruby did regularly attend a synagogue. Yes indeed, Angleton and Dulles were involved. Yes indeed were Angleton and Mossad connected. yes indeed did Mossad have connections to international organized crime ( a cutout for the hitmen procurement) stemming from the days of procuring illegal arms for Israel (still needed before LBJ). Yes indeed did JFK have a problem with Israel getting the bomb. Yes indeed did Johnston favor the state of Israel. Yes indeed did Israel have a relatively easy time getting the bomb after JFK’s death.
    but I do think it is a stretch that Israel decided that it was to be Vietnam rather than Cuba. Vietnam and Korea were decided on as WW2 ended. As Fletcher Prouty stated, after WW2 the equipment for the 500.000 man army group not needed to invade Japan was taken to Korea and Vietnam. Anecdotally, in my rural area an ex Navy intelligence non com bought the little country store. He told me he helped unload it. My own research made me think the Vietnam War was a bad idea. The US didn’t sign the Geneva Accord that ended French colonialism in Vietnam. I agree that the draft was the main reason there was such a forceful anti-war movement. I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force. Israel and many Jews do have influence and power grossly outstripping their small population .It is indeed an Anglo Zionist power group controlling the US. With the Jewish people we might know just ordinary manipulated people as much as you and me.

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    " I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force."

    Agreed. But the engineered LSD explosion also had an occult purpose behind it. There was broad experimentation done on hallucinogens throughout the 1950s and 1960s by the CIA and Pentagon. A lot of it was centered on mind control, but there was also an effort to define and enhance human psychic ability. Charles Manson and his peers were guinea pigs.
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  148. Wally says:
    @Anon
    Wally, there is a great deal material about the awful things Japan did during WW2. Joe is Chinese he probably has relatives who remember the horrors.

    For a couple hundred dollars you can get a library card at universities. There is a lot of material available. There are many sources other than the history * channel and the internet.

    * history aka hitler channel

    Libraries are full of witchcraft testimony too.

    Joe’s trying the ‘I’m a victim’ routine’, he has no proof.

    Where’s the necessary physical evidence that should be available to see?

    http://www.codoh.com

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  149. Wally says:
    @Joe Wong
    There are plenty of artifacts in the beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese crime sites and museums in China as well as in other Asian nations, you should go there to check it out yourself, it might change your mind about defending those beastly barbarians after you see the cruelty yourself, presumably you are one of us, not one of those unrepentant beasts.

    One of the strategies the unrepentant war criminal Japanese adopted is to wait until all witnesses of their crimes die off, then they call for witness to testify after they reconstruct the crime sites. You and codoh.com is the vanguard in this field.

    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910…0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

    http://www.codoh.com

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    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.
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  150. Another Director/producer Oliver Stone film in the making, I see.

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  151. anarchyst says:
    @Lost american
    Thanks anarchist- I well remember those late 60s , early 70s days when I was in USMC. I also remember the NY Times and other Bolshevik papers showing daily hate for ALL members of the USA Armed Forces.

    Older and smarter people made me wise to the fact that over at least 75 % of the USA's antiwar protestors didn't care about the Vietnamese people or the Palestinians. Noam Chomsky loved the attention he was getting as "head activist"- all those coeds marching with him, and unlike the grunt overseas, Chomsky got to sleep in the finest hotels, and he also never had a bad word to say about Israel.

    These older men told me when I got out of Corps after several years of service that all the protests were about a thing called the DRAFT. These men included a doctor, a lawyer, and dozens of veterans.
    My father was in WW2 and he was against warmongers (hated them) and he tried to get me to understand that all the people I knew got out of the draft because they didn't want any discomfort in their lives and were just plain afraid for their own skins. My classmates in high school didn't care about the Vietnamese people- only about their own skins. It was fine with me that they didn't want to go to Vietnam but they also refused service when Army recruiters would get signed documents stationing them in Germany and other safe assignments.
    The blue collar street kids I hung out with all got drafted and went into the military.

    I was in USMC 1969 to 1971 with one tour in Vietnam and also experienced the hatred that civilians had for us. The only “woodstock” I saw was on my M-14…lol
    Welcome home and Semper Fi, brother!

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  152. anon[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Johnson had given Israel a green light in a letter to Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, dated June 3: “I want to protect the territorial integrity of Israel […] and will provide as effective American support as possible to preserve the peace and freedom of your nation and of the area.”[7] Johnson also asked the CIA to transmit to the Israeli army the precise positions of the Egyptian air bases to be destroyed.
     
    The "six million lie" was at its strongest in 1967 - Israel had the support of the world. The joke of the times was that the Arab tanks had backup lights on them.

    They have pissed that support away - today the world rightfully hates Israel.

    ‘Time for excuses is over’: Gerry Adams urges Ireland to expel Israeli diplomat over Gaza violence

    "There can be no justification or excuse by Israel for the calculated slaughter by Israeli military snipers of unarmed Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border with Israel," Adams said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422900-gaza-adams-israel-ireland/
     
    Think Peace --- Art

    That’s attitude in 60s to Arab also was based on pure lies and defamation. Western citizen fell for it to feel better about themselves and to be accepted among the elite international progressive front .

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  153. Joe Wong says:
    @Wally
    Yawn.
    Then show us the necessary human remains, not empty claims.

    There are museums to witchcraft too, see:

    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SPrDWrPIFKfR0gKm_5DYBA&q=wicthcraft+mueims&oq=wicthcraft+mueims&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13k1j0i13i30k1l2.1174.6910.0.7212.17.17.0.0.0.0.194.1914.2j15.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.17.1910...0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i10i46k1j46i10k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i13i10k1j0i13i5i30k1j0i8i13i10i30k1.0.4B_rnslHJKE

    www.codoh.com

    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, … , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

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    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the "transfer" of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp "deaths" total around 731,000--NOT "6 million". In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war...

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not "add up"...

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the "yellow Star of David" armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE "KANGAROO COURTS" THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you "holocaust ™" promoters--why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and "disease"--"holocaust ™ " "transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish "holocaust ™" survivors are infected with this "disease" and should also be considered "holocaust ™" survivors, eligible for "holocaust ™" reparations".

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews' declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a "gas chamber" chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these "camps".

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the "chimney" for the supposed "gas chamber" does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were "liberated" by the "allies", the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be "liberated" by the Russian "allies".

    I urge those "holocaust ™" believers to check these things out for yourselves--IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find...
    , @anarchyst
    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    - “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.
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  154. Joe Wong says:
    @James Forrestal
    Gosh, I guess I was wrong. Clearly you don't harbor any sort of intense, vitriolic, irrational hatred towards those "dwarf bandits," and an intense desire to blame them for everything. You're right-- they are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Orient today, and will be forever more-- just as the German people are collectively responsible for everything wrong with the Jews and/ or Europe. If only the Japanese could be as effectively indoctrinated into intense self-hatred as the Germans were! Terrible.

    And of course, the Japanese (not just those few surviving WW2 veterans, but the entire Japanese people), will forever remain "beasts" and "criminals," while the Chinese (the entire Han people, not just the few surviving WW2 vets, of course) will always be innocent victims. Though again, this is rather reminiscent of the (very effective) narrative with respect to the Jews and the Germans....

    Interesting.

    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

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    Aren’t you the idiot who has claimed here that the Japanese killed 300K people at Nanking with samurai swords? Or am I thinking of someone else?
    , @ANON
    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll's taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor's harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?
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  155. anarchyst says:
    @Joe Wong
    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ ” “transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations”.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

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    Good work.

    The problem is that some people "can't handle the truth". Look how long it took for witchcraft to fall from being "an established fact".

    It amusing to see so many here tout awareness of the very real dangers, ongoing violence, hatred, and destruction of Zionists / Jew supremacists. Yet so may here are afraid to touch the source for the modern Jew's destructive power, the fake and utterly impossible '6,000,000'.

    Want to end the evils of Zionism / Jew supremacists?
    Speaking up about the scam aka: 'holocau$t' will do it.

    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

    www.codoh.com

    All Revisionists were once True Believers.
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  156. anarchyst says:
    @Joe Wong
    codoh.com is a site of fake news, full of photoshop created pictures, and neo-Nazi doctored propaganda.

    Anyhow the Neruremberg trials recorded Naiz admitted they committed industrial scale murdering to get rid of undesired people including Jews, communists, mental patients, brown shirt members, ... , the disappearance of Jews in Poland alone makes Holocaust a highly likely event.

    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    – Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    – U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    – “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    – The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    – “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

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    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.
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  157. Erik A says:

    Quote from the article:

    “643,000 tons of bombs were dropped—three times more than during the entire Second World War”.

    American and British strategic bombers dropped more than 2,700,000 tons during WWII.

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  158. @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    Who is “blaming Jews for VN”? That’s your straw man. You made it up He presented compelling evidence, which was not made up. Zionist hijacking of US government has been the bane of this country for decades, and still is the biggest problem.

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  159. @anarchyst
    The Vietnam war was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American "(communist) mainstream media", communists and their "fellow travelers" blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite's declaration that "the American military lost the war" despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American "mainstream media" could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered "baby killers", "loose cannons", "mentally defective", and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he "anti-war" movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing--"saving their own skins"--nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of "boat people" risking life and limb to escape that communist "paradise".
    Ken Burns' "documentary" on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently "let it slip" about the TRUTH of the communist "re-education" camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that "re-education" would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

    You have had sixty years to figure out that you were being manipulated by the State. And you are still not up to speed? Better not watch the news.

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    I not only do not watch and never have watched the "mainstream "news", I WAS THERE and was able to see for myself--not through the eyes of communist sympathizing "reporters".
    I notice that you have swallowed the Ken Burns "documentary" (lies) hook line and sinker...
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  160. Zio Jews were most certainly behind the social unrest in the 1960s US.

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  161. anarchyst says:
    @ploni almoni
    You have had sixty years to figure out that you were being manipulated by the State. And you are still not up to speed? Better not watch the news.

    I not only do not watch and never have watched the “mainstream “news”, I WAS THERE and was able to see for myself–not through the eyes of communist sympathizing “reporters”.
    I notice that you have swallowed the Ken Burns “documentary” (lies) hook line and sinker…

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  162. annamaria says:

    Killing the belligerent “leaders” and presstitutes with laughter:

    http://thesaker.is/a-curious-incident-part-vii/

    “In the beginning of March a man and his daughter were sitting on a park bench in Wiltshire when they were impaled by a unicorn. Theresa May claims the unicorn was Russian and was sent by “Bad Vlad.”
    Thirty eight years ago the U.S.S.R had a program that is rumoured to have bred unicorns but these were all destroyed when the U.S.S.R collapsed. Mr. Mirzayanov, who claims to be the government in exile of Tatar wrote a book which contains images of unicorns. Because of the passage of time all of the original unicorns are dead. The breeding stables were dismantled and shipped to the USA in the 1990s.
    When evidence of these unicorns was presented to the Technical Secretariat of the OPCW it was discounted as speculative. No one has seen the unicorn that impaled the man and his daughter in the middle of Salisbury. It is believed that the unicorn may have been hidden in the air vents of their car, or dropped from a drone. The British Foreign minister has categorically stated that unicorns exist because “I asked the guy and he said yes.” The Prime Minister has nudged the world closer to WWIII by leading a global demand for sanctions against “bad Vlad” and his unicorn attacks against the UK. …
    The fact that none of the three victims died, one is in stable condition, and two are in recovery, is strong evidence that no competent state actor was involved in the attack.
    The available evidence implicates Freedonia. The UK government should immediately attempt to determine the present whereabouts of Rufus T. Firefly, Chicolini and Pinky.”

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  163. Anon[186] • Disclaimer says:

    The Watergate scandal passes today as evidence of the independence of the American media as a necessary counter-power against government abuses. But in reality, it simply illustrates the increasing involvement of the media in deep political warfare.

    Likewise we must go beyond the public and Spielbergian narratives on the Pentagon Papers to understand what was really at stake. In both scandals, I believe the leadership of both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the two biggest propaganda machines in the US, were acting not only in the service of truth, but also in service of a power deeper than the deep state they were exposing.

    What the ample majority of people wants it exactly be shielded from the truth. Let alone the truth behind the truth that is exposed.

    The NYT WaPo do exactly what the author here says — and so do the Guardian, HuffPo, Atlantic, …
    and every medium (th channel, radio station, e-magazine, newspaper, …) that seeks to have a wide readership.

    Because the demand is high only for untruths — it has been like this since consciousness developed, and it will keep being like this despite any effort on the part of contrarians.

    There’s nothing people are as hostile to as truth, in general, for opening oneself to it also opens the door to self-knowledge, and that’s the prime fear.

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    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself "next in line" for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.
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  164. anarchyst says:
    @Anon

    The Watergate scandal passes today as evidence of the independence of the American media as a necessary counter-power against government abuses. But in reality, it simply illustrates the increasing involvement of the media in deep political warfare.
     


    Likewise we must go beyond the public and Spielbergian narratives on the Pentagon Papers to understand what was really at stake. In both scandals, I believe the leadership of both the New York Times and the Washington Post, the two biggest propaganda machines in the US, were acting not only in the service of truth, but also in service of a power deeper than the deep state they were exposing.
     
    What the ample majority of people wants it exactly be shielded from the truth. Let alone the truth behind the truth that is exposed.

    The NYT WaPo do exactly what the author here says — and so do the Guardian, HuffPo, Atlantic, ...
    and every medium (th channel, radio station, e-magazine, newspaper, ...) that seeks to have a wide readership.

    Because the demand is high only for untruths — it has been like this since consciousness developed, and it will keep being like this despite any effort on the part of contrarians.

    There's nothing people are as hostile to as truth, in general, for opening oneself to it also opens the door to self-knowledge, and that's the prime fear.

    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself “next in line” for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.

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    Mark Felt, the insider who betrayed Nixon ("Deep Throat") and who was pivotal in sabotaging the Nixon Presidency, was Jewish.
    , @Curmudgeon
    Recall the Nixon - Billy Graham conversation about the Jews grip on the press, and how it would bring the country down? Y'think Henry Kiss-my-ass didn't know about Nixon's views? One tribesman, Henry, picks up the phone to call another tribesman slighted by Nixon, Felt, and it's game on.

    I always thought Graham was too Joo friendly, and Nixon's sweaty upper lip should have kept him off TV, but it turned out they were were somewhat prophetic. Joos are not a faceless mass, but organized Jewry, like AIPAC and the ADL would have people believe that all Jews are 100% unified on every issue organized Jewry fronts. Dicky and Billy were certainly correct about the in your face ones.
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  165. @anarchyst
    All but two of the Germans [on trial at Nuremberg], in the 139 cases that we investigated, had their testicles kicked in beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators:” 23.1.49, The Sunday Pictorial (quoted in For Those Who Cannot Speak (ref. 27), p.21.The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months..The investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head, punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses. Observer & American judge, van Roden

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    - “The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to [Bernard] Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: ‘Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.’”(12)
    12.R. Butler, Legions of Death, Hamlyn, (London, 1983), p.237

    - The admission of Bernard Clarke was corroborated by Mr. Ken Jones in ‘The Wrexham Leader’, October 17, 1986.
    Mr. Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Heid in Schleswig-Holstein.
    “They brought him to us when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activites during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks,” recalls Mr. Jones. Two other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Hoess in his cell to help break him down for interrogation.”
    “We sat in the cell with him, night and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to help break down his resistance,” said Mr. Jones.
    When Hoess was taken out for exercise, he was made to wear only jeans and a thin cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three days and nights without sleep, Hoess finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities.

    - “The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.
    As the work of the Cage was wound down, the interrogation of prisoners was switched to a number of internment camps in Germany. And there is evidence that the treatment meted out in these places was, if anything, far worse. While many of the papers relating to these interrogation centres remain sealed at the Foreign Office, it is clear that one camp in the British zone became particularly notorious. At least two German prisoners starved to death there, according to a court of inquiry, while others were shot for minor offences.

    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.

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    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
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  166. @gepay
    Oswald was intended to be killed in the movie theater. He stated he was just a patsy. He couldn't go to trial. Jacob Rubinstein was needed to kill Oswald. Yes he did have mafia ties but then again there are people like Meyer Lansky who had power. Ruby did regularly attend a synagogue. Yes indeed, Angleton and Dulles were involved. Yes indeed were Angleton and Mossad connected. yes indeed did Mossad have connections to international organized crime ( a cutout for the hitmen procurement) stemming from the days of procuring illegal arms for Israel (still needed before LBJ). Yes indeed did JFK have a problem with Israel getting the bomb. Yes indeed did Johnston favor the state of Israel. Yes indeed did Israel have a relatively easy time getting the bomb after JFK's death.
    but I do think it is a stretch that Israel decided that it was to be Vietnam rather than Cuba. Vietnam and Korea were decided on as WW2 ended. As Fletcher Prouty stated, after WW2 the equipment for the 500.000 man army group not needed to invade Japan was taken to Korea and Vietnam. Anecdotally, in my rural area an ex Navy intelligence non com bought the little country store. He told me he helped unload it. My own research made me think the Vietnam War was a bad idea. The US didn't sign the Geneva Accord that ended French colonialism in Vietnam. I agree that the draft was the main reason there was such a forceful anti-war movement. I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force. Israel and many Jews do have influence and power grossly outstripping their small population .It is indeed an Anglo Zionist power group controlling the US. With the Jewish people we might know just ordinary manipulated people as much as you and me.

    ” I believe the CIA flooded the USA with LSD to stop it from becoming a fixed political force.”

    Agreed. But the engineered LSD explosion also had an occult purpose behind it. There was broad experimentation done on hallucinogens throughout the 1950s and 1960s by the CIA and Pentagon. A lot of it was centered on mind control, but there was also an effort to define and enhance human psychic ability. Charles Manson and his peers were guinea pigs.

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  167. Mulegino1 says:

    Sir,

    I am directed by the Ministry to send you the following circular letter:

    It is often the duty of the good citizens and of the pious Christians to turn a blind eye on the peculiarities of those associated with us.

    But the time comes when such peculiarities, while still denied in public, must be taken into account when action by us is called for.

    We know the methods of rule employed by the Bolshevik dictator in Russia itself from, for example, the writing and speeches of the Prime Minister himself during the last twenty years. We know how the Red Army behaved in Poland in 1920 and in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Galicia and Bessarabia only recently.

    We must, therefore, take into account how the Red Army will certainly behave when it overruns Central Europe. Unless precautions are taken, the obviously inevitable horrors which will result will throw an undue strain on public opinion in this country.

    We cannot reform the Bolsheviks but we can do our best to save them — and ourselves — from the consequences of their acts. The disclosures of the past quarter of a century will render mere denials unconvincing. The only alternative to denial is to distract public attention from the whole subject.

    Experience has shown that the best distraction is atrocity propaganda directed against the enemy. Unfortunately the public is no longer so susceptible as in the days of the “Corpse Factory,” and the “Mutilated Belgian Babies,” and the “Crucified Canadians.”

    Your cooperation is therefore earnestly sought to distract public attention from the doings of the Red Army by your wholehearted support of various charges against the Germans and Japanese which have been and will be put into circulation by the Ministry.

    Your expression of belief in such may convince others.

    I am, Sir, Your obedient servant,

    (signed) H. HEWET, ASSISTANT SECRETARY

    This letter is reproduced in a 1958 book entitled:

    Allied Wartime Diplomacy: A Pattern in Poland by Edward J. Rozek,

    Whether the above letter is genuine or not (and there is no reason to think it is not) it certainly reflects real truths of history, except insofar as it seems to emphasize Soviet atrocities, and ignore the horrendous real “holocausts” perpetrated upon the people of Western and Central Europe and Japan, particularly by the Anglo-American air forces. Most atrocity propaganda is simple deflection, and in the case of the Allies (versus the Axis) that of far worse crimes of much greater magnitude.

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  168. Mulegino1 says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis
    The Van Roden case was not a Nuremberg case. You can check on this yourself. Van Roden was never at Nuremberg.

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

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    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.
    , @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     
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  169. Awesome reading! Learning something new every day now. Certainly more than I ever learned in public schools.. Sad!
    Something seriously need to be done about their control over our media and education here in America, imagine how much suffering and death could have been avoided if folks were not fed a constant stream of lies & BS..
    We’re still suffering from these lies, all these years later, so many still believe the lies.
    I do think things are changing fast though, people are waking up in massive numbers every day, not good for the bad guys.
    All of us have to do our part and help spread the truth, talk to everyone around you, don’t be afraid of being called names, better than being DEAD!

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  170. @anarchyst
    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself "next in line" for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.

    Mark Felt, the insider who betrayed Nixon (“Deep Throat”) and who was pivotal in sabotaging the Nixon Presidency, was Jewish.

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  171. @Mulegino1
    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.

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    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.
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  172. Ellsberg was probably a CIA asset, and all the Pentagon Papers did was to deflect blame for the war onto the DoD.

    http://mileswmathis.com/watergate.pdf

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  173. j2 says:

    the article has many good points. I wrote my response here:

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/05/jfk-lbj-lansky-dulles-and-zionists/

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    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf
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  174. @j2
    the article has many good points. I wrote my response here:
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/05/jfk-lbj-lansky-dulles-and-zionists/
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    Thanks, I'll read it.
    , @j2
    Beefcake the Mighty, here you have my review of Piper's book you proposed I might be interested in, it was interesting and I had not read it before, so many thanks yet another time
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/11/comments-on-michael-collins-pipers-book-the-final-judgment/
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  175. Mulegino1 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    The Allies also conveniently ignored their own war crimes at Nuremberg, like terror bombing of civilian centers (which they initiated). Hoess “confessed” to killing 2.5M people at Auschwitz, which isn’t the “4M Jews and Communists” of Soviet lore, but is still an absurdly inflated number that even mainstream historians today do not believe.

    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.

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    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

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  176. @Mulegino1
    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess - perhaps the most infamous of all the "witnesses" at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the "torture detail"- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the "Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death" legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the "gas chambers" and "mass gassings" are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from “Wally,” who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don’t usually lie, particularly when it’s been pointed out to them that the information they’re posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here’s something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness — in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How’s that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.

    Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?

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    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden's finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    www.codoh.com
    , @Wally
    Mathis said:
    "Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?"

    except that:

    The German 'guilt' for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet "investigative" commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: "We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders." (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn't until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as "proven" at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.
     
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  177. Mulegino1 says:

    The indisputable torture of Hoess is still relevant, whether he was a defense or prosecution witness. That torture was widely used by the Allied interrogators is not even a point of controversy, it is an indisputable fact which is not even seriously denied by the captors, jailers and prosecutors themselves. Robert Jackson himself stated that the tribunals were not bound to the rules of evidence and constituted a continuation of the war against Germany. They were show trials with two overarching purposes: the demonization of Germany and the deflection of the much greater and much more demonstrable Allied war crimes.

    The tribunals conducted under the “United Nations” were conducted with a predetermined outcome (guilty) already determined with respect to most defendants. Of course, for the appearance of propriety, a few of the defendants with international connections (such as Schacht and Von Papen) would be acquitted. Admiral Doenitz most likely escaped the fate of Jodl and Keitel only because of the objections of Admiral King and other flag rank Allied naval officers. Albert Speer was spared the death penalty because he was the “model defendant.” I have no idea why Rudolf Hess was kept in prison for life, and later murdered by his captors when an old man of 94. What exactly was Julius Streicher guilty of? Producing offensive cartoons? He was certainly correct when he characterized the hangings as a Purim celebration.

    Nuremberg represented the attempt by the Allies to wrap themselves in the mantle of righteousness so that the world would overlook their own horrendous atrocities and war crimes, including the first use of atomic weaponry against civilian targets. Now this mantle has been ripped off of them and it reveals that the so called “Good War” is simply the “Big Lie.”

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  178. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     

    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden’s finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden’s allegation of torture to gain “confessions” is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    [MORE]

    Alleged & laughable “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry’s Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Maybe you can tell us all what trial Van Roden was involved in and why it is that the defendants in that trial might have suffered so badly at the hands of American military authorities.

    Any other reference to Nuremberg is irrelevant in a discussion of Van Roden, as I've already shown. I've already demonstrated your lie in this regard, so I won't belabor the point.

    Btw, I can post links too.
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  179. j2 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf

    Thanks, I’ll read it.

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  180. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    It really does not matter if Van Roden was at the Nuremberg IMT or not. What does matter is that torture was used on many of the IMT suspects and witnesses to force confessions.

     

    Of course it matters. The person to whom I was responding literally cut and pasted his post from "Wally," who lied about the topic of the Van Roden quote. People with legitimate cases to make don't usually lie, particularly when it's been pointed out to them that the information they're posting is bogus. That suggests an agenda rather than a genuine interest in the truth.

    The torture of Rudolf Hoess – perhaps the most infamous of all the “witnesses” at the IMT- is a case in point. He was captured by British commandos and held for nearly a week, during which he was beaten savagely and nearly killed by his captors. He was also threatened with having his family handed over to the Soviets. This is by the admission of the commanding officer of the “torture detail”- one Captain Bernard Clarke, who publicly boasted about it.

    It was the testimony of Hoess that provided the principal foundation for the “Auschwitz-Birkenau factory of death” legend. The claims of Hoess regarding the “gas chambers” and “mass gassings” are so outlandish and ridiculous from a technical and logistical perspective that they really serve as a gold mine for revisionists.

    Here's something that is worth considering. When Höß appeared at Nuremberg, he did so as a defense witness -- in particular, from RSHA head Ernst Kaltenbrunner. Are you going to stick with the idea that the defense team tortured Höß into testifying for their client? How's that work, exactly?

    The Nuremberg IMT is tainted in many ways, particularly by the fact that the French, British and American prosecutors did not publicly contest the indictment of the Germans for the massacres at Katyn, when they almost certainly knew that these atrocities were carried out by the Soviet NKVD.
     
    Hey, here's an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?
     

    Mathis said:
    “Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?”

    except that:

    The German ‘guilt’ for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet “investigative” commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: “We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders.” (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn’t until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as “proven” at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.

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    An indictment isn't a finding of guilt. Try again.
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  181. @Wally
    Andrew Mathis would like everyone to ignore the confirmation of Van Roden's finding, which Mathis conveniently dodges:

    - Judge van Roden's allegation of torture to gain "confessions" is confirmed by Texas Supreme Court Judge, Gordon Simpson. He confirmed that savage beatings, smashing of testicles, and months of solitary confinement occurred. Congressional Record, appendix v. 95, sec.12, 3/10/49

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and was utterly pummeled in debate:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

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    Maybe you can tell us all what trial Van Roden was involved in and why it is that the defendants in that trial might have suffered so badly at the hands of American military authorities.

    Any other reference to Nuremberg is irrelevant in a discussion of Van Roden, as I’ve already shown. I’ve already demonstrated your lie in this regard, so I won’t belabor the point.

    Btw, I can post links too.

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  182. @Wally
    Mathis said:
    "Hey, here’s an idea. Can you point me to the Nuremberg defendants who were found guilty of complicity in the Katyn massacre?"

    except that:

    The German 'guilt' for the killing of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest near Smolensk was similarly confirmed by Nuremberg document USSR-54.
    This detailed report by yet another Soviet "investigative" commission was submitted as proof for the charge made in the joint indictment of the four Allied governments. As a Soviet prosecutor explained: "We find, in the Indictment, one of the most important criminal acts for which the major war criminals are responsible was the mass execution of Polish prisoners of war shot in the Katyn forest near Smolensk by the German fascist invaders." (note 44) (Interestingly, two of the eight members of the Soviet Katyn Commission were also members of the Soviet Auschwitz commission: Academician N. Burdenko and Metropolitan Nikolai.)

    It wasn't until 1990 that the Soviet government finally acknowledged that the Katyn massacre was carried out, not by a German unit, as "proven" at Nuremberg, but by the Soviet secret police.

    - ‘New York Times’, April 13 and 14, 1990.
     
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    laughably said:
    "An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again."

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, "confessed" to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    www.codoh.com

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  183. Wally says:
    @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the "transfer" of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp "deaths" total around 731,000--NOT "6 million". In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war...

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not "add up"...

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the "yellow Star of David" armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE "KANGAROO COURTS" THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you "holocaust ™" promoters--why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and "disease"--"holocaust ™ " "transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish "holocaust ™" survivors are infected with this "disease" and should also be considered "holocaust ™" survivors, eligible for "holocaust ™" reparations".

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews' declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a "gas chamber" chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these "camps".

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the "chimney" for the supposed "gas chamber" does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were "liberated" by the "allies", the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be "liberated" by the Russian "allies".

    I urge those "holocaust ™" believers to check these things out for yourselves--IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find...

    Good work.

    The problem is that some people “can’t handle the truth”. Look how long it took for witchcraft to fall from being “an established fact”.

    It amusing to see so many here tout awareness of the very real dangers, ongoing violence, hatred, and destruction of Zionists / Jew supremacists. Yet so may here are afraid to touch the source for the modern Jew’s destructive power, the fake and utterly impossible ’6,000,000′.

    Want to end the evils of Zionism / Jew supremacists?
    Speaking up about the scam aka: ‘holocau$t’ will do it.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

    http://www.codoh.com

    All Revisionists were once True Believers.

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  184. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis
    An indictment isn't a finding of guilt. Try again.

    laughably said:
    “An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again.”

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, “confessed” to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    They weren’t tried at Nuremberg. Try again.
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  185. Pat says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    So you don’t believe millions of Jews were killed by the Germans? There is quite a lot of evidence. Three million were killed just in Poland.

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  186. @Joe Wong
    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

    Aren’t you the idiot who has claimed here that the Japanese killed 300K people at Nanking with samurai swords? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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  187. @Wally
    laughably said:
    "An indictment isn’t a finding of guilt. Try again."

    So then:

    German officers Ernst Böhm, Herbert Janike, Erwin Skotki, Ernst Gehrer, Karl Hermann Strüffling, Heinrich Remmlinger and Eduard Sommerfeld were hanged by the Soviets for allegedly having committed the Katyn massacre after they, of course, "confessed" to their guilt.
    see:
    Memos: US hushed up Soviet mass murder at Katyn
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7212&p=53274

    I recommend that you quit digging.

    www.codoh.com

    They weren’t tried at Nuremberg. Try again.

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  188. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong
    Germans are very confident people and well respected in the world; are you resentful that Germans’ moral integrity and their courage to do the right thing make you, the war crime deniers, miserable and ugly? I don’t think you should smear Germans irresponsibly.

    But if the Japanese had showed remorse like the Germans, the Japanese would become a normal state like Germany among their neighbours, it would be very undesirable for the American’s Asian hegemony ambition, would it be the reason why the Americans are so dead against victims asking the Japanese to show remorse about the wrongs they have perpetrated against them? If the Japanese remains an unrepentant war criminal, the American can rule the Japanese with moral authority forever and Japanese has to do the American bidding with deep gratitude.

    It is not only interesting, it is entirely logical.

    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll’s taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor’s harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?

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    I found it amusing that whenever CCTV 9 the English language in China shows the perfidy of the Japanese, they have only newsreels showing Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalists battling it out with the Japanese. Where were the Chicoms, the Long March people? Hiding away in the mountains, waiting for the imperialists to duke it out as per Stalin's advice.

    The Chicoms would have more credibility with their blather about Japanese atrociousness, had they not accepted Japanese investments from the time of Deng Tsiao Ping onwards. But having taken the investments, they blackmail the Japanese at their pleasure. And as you say where is the reckoning for the multi-million dead as a result of Communism?
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  189. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    You are completely correct, of course.

    I would go one step further and contend that the principal motive behind the Nuremberg Show Trials was to deflect from the real crimes against humanity, namely the bringing about of the war against Germany by Great Britain and the FDR administration, primarily for economic and financial reasons.
    These crimes would certainly include the horrendous fire bombings of civilian population centers, and the conduct of the Red Army in Eastern and Central Europe. They crimes dwarfed anything realistically imputed to the Germans, whose excesses, however brutal, were almost all committed within the context of the savage partisan warfare on the Eastern Front.

    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators’ conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was “brought about” by ” Great Britain and the FDR administration” for “economic and financial [or any other] reasons” is just so clueless that you can’t be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK…. just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

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    Comic book history.
    , @Wally
    Actually Chamberlain made a fair & just deal for all involved. I doubt that you even know what you're talking about.
    Recall the Britain & France declared war on Germany but not the USSR, who invaded Poland from the east.
    Try debating, if you think you know what you're talking about:
    WWII Europe / Atlantic Theater Revisionist Forum
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=20

    Did Britain initiate both world wars?
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10458

    Responsibility for WW2
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544

    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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  190. @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    Interesting but it leads me to a rather different question. When Allen Dulles was in charge it was a much smaller simpler world even in the great swamp that had been responsible for noxious vapours for 150 years – certainly tainting Langly, VA. Since then there has been a huge turnover of CIA directors who, even if they were pure 35 year, but fasttrack, career men, would have had little chance to be up with all the details of every major risky operation including the reasoning behind it and the planning. (We know – OK 95% – for example that a CIA report from Germany casting grave doubt on the Iraqi witness to chemical WMDs that Colin Powell’s UN speech relied on didn’t reach George Tenet or others briefing Powell). So…. when we think the CIA has been party to some monstrosity such as 9/11 how do we see the nuts and bolts being put together in an orderly and very secret fashion? Which Directors of the CIA would you have trusted to plan and pull off a 9/11? And if you understandably answer “none” then can someone describe and name the inner executive team that someone even higher up can have relied on?

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  191. @ANON
    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

    Comic book history.

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    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?
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  192. DOG says:

    A better question is. Was the last hundred years a a holocaust for zion?

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  193. Ivan says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    How can be highly intelligent people so confused concerning the basics.
    At the time of Vietnam war, the center of Zionist globalism was in Soviet Union.
    It was not called Zionist globalism.
    It was called Communist internationalism.
    There was Zionism in US but the only cause supported by them was protection of state of Israel, and that quite understandable.
    Today is center of Zionist globalism is in US.
    There should be no objection to Zionists to support Israel.
    The objection should be directed against Zionist globalism That is committing war crimes against nations of the world.
    In Vietnam war communist were the aggressors.
    In Vietnam war US was defender of freedoms over the aggression of Communists.
    ....................................................................................................
    Not anymore the US is defender of freedoms.

    They may be intelligent, even highly intelligent, but they have their own axes to grind.

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  194. Ivan says:
    @ANON
    The Japanese I know make me scratch my head in wonder that they can be related to those who did such appalling things in the 1930s and 40s. As to their nation showing remorse or apologising I think you will find that previous PMs have although of course never enough for hardheads in China who want to keep Japanese on the wrong foot. BTW has the CCP ever expressed remorse and contrition over the famine and worse caused by the Great Leap Forward and tbe cruelty and injustice of the Cultual Revolution? And to cater for the typical Chinese troll's taste for enthusiasm anachronistic indignation how about putting Chinese Emperors in the historical dock with Popes so that a suitable bunch of modern representatives can utter abject apologies for the castration of boys, in China so they could mind the emperor's harem and general administration and, for the Papacy, to sing as castrati with unbroken treble voices?

    I found it amusing that whenever CCTV 9 the English language in China shows the perfidy of the Japanese, they have only newsreels showing Chiang Kai Shek’s Nationalists battling it out with the Japanese. Where were the Chicoms, the Long March people? Hiding away in the mountains, waiting for the imperialists to duke it out as per Stalin’s advice.

    The Chicoms would have more credibility with their blather about Japanese atrociousness, had they not accepted Japanese investments from the time of Deng Tsiao Ping onwards. But having taken the investments, they blackmail the Japanese at their pleasure. And as you say where is the reckoning for the multi-million dead as a result of Communism?

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  195. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    Conventional wisdom is that Eisenhower was selected by the Americans to lead the invasion of Europe because he was so superior in logistics. He supervised the plans and made sure equipment, gas, oil, medics, food, winter clothes were where they were needed when they were needed.
     
    He didn't do this. His mostly British staff did it. His British secretary Mrs. Whitman even wrote his letters for him. Have you ever spoken to Korean vets? They lost limbs because they did not have sufficient winter clothes.

    He ran for president in 1952 on a promise to end the Korean War immediately which he did.
     
    His promise was to go to Korea, which he did. He found the war a bloody stalemate, and the population resources of the US could not match those in China and the Soviet Union. He opted for an armistice to regroup: not a peace treaty to end the war. The war never ended. My sources come from among the most rabid deep state cold warriors who remained personally loyal to Eisenhower after Kennedy became president. I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn't really president, because the 22nd amendment was not legal. Ike should have been grandfathered, he claimed.

    After the Korean War ended, he concentrated on building the national highway network and other infrastructure. He was a great president for the American people because he concentrated on protective tariffs, huge well paid infrastructure projects and internal things that benefited the American people.
     
    The Korean war never ended, and he concentrated on building up the US in preparation for renewed hostilities. This is why, for example, the world war II draft was still being used in the 1960s.

    He did help the French in their Vietnam war, but concentrated on doing things for the American people instead of adventuring all over the world.
     
    Did you live through that period? The first political story I remember reading was about Eisenhower using army draftees to break a coal miner's strike. How is this different from slavery? His PR was amazing, but the truth about him was ugly. He got on well with Joe Stalin. One of the causes of the Korean armistice was the loss of the understanding with the Soviet Union following Stalin's replacement by Khrushchev in October 1952, and his death a few months later. And there really can be no excuse for Ike's treatment of German POWs.

    I recall with amazement one day in 1962 when Joe Bonono explained that Kennedy wasn’t really president

    I did a web search, and Joe Bonono returns articles about Joe Bonanno. This is not the same person. Joe Bonanno was from southern Italy, but Joe Bonono was from northern Italy. He was a deep state ringer for the other Joe. In published photos of Bonono the right side of his face is obscured, because he had a mole or blemish there that would have blown his cover.

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  196. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Comic book history.

    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters’ links, citations and footnotes?

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    Ah, I see Wally did it for Beefcake at about the right intellectual level...
    , @Mulegino1
    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor's "Origins of the Second World War", David Hoggan's "The Forced War" and "The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War" by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR's roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing "German aggression."

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  197. Dani says:
    @Brabantian
    Terrific piece above connecting many dots, the material on Lyndon Johnson, on Charles de Gaulle, and on the spooky Daniel Ellsberg, the alleged 'leaker' who along with his friend Noam Chomsky and others became dodgy 'dissident celebrities', united in their shilling against JFK assassination investigation, all playing along with the 'lone gunman Oswald' hoax.

    There are at least 6 major fake 'leaks' / 'dissident heroes' all used similar techniques ... all of them CIA hoaxes and frauds ... all involving prominent Jewish or Israeli figures too

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg 'stolen' Pentagon Papers
    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat'
    2010 Julian Assange 'Wikileaks'
    2013 Edward Snowden 'stolen' NSA Papers
    2016 Panama Papers
    2017 Paradise Papers

    All involve CIA-backed fake 'leakers - dissidents' with 'limited hang-out' partial truth, in order to sell even bigger lies:

    1971 Daniel Ellsberg NY Times Pentagon Papers 'stolen documents leak' ... (1) Ellsberg promoted hoax of JFK assassination 'lone gunman, not CIA' (2) Distracted from US Vietnam war crimes outside of 'limited hang-out' My Lai, focusing on Jewish 'leaker hero', not on brutalised Vietnamese (3) Set up meme of 'brave, trusted' CIA media (4) Distracted from Israeli wars and occupation of Palestine

    1973 Watergate 'Deep Throat' fictional leaker ... (1) Set up 'Silent Coup' of Richard Nixon by US military Joint Chiefs & CIA (2) Pumped CIA 'brave media' story for Jewish WashPost 'reporter' Bob Woodward, who was a Navy Intel agent working for Admiral Maurer heading Joint Chiefs & running US coup d'état (3) Deepend fake 'brave media' meme for CIA journalists to rat-trap real dissidents, identify & destroy them

    2010 Julian Assange Wikileaks ... (1) Leaks 'selected' & shielded Israel, with Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & US-CIA's Zbigniew Brzezinski both publicly admitting Assange is an intel hoax (2) Anti-9-11 truth (3) Sold intimidating 'USA torture war crimes' story USA enjoys spreading (4) 'Rat trap' for dissidents who could be killed after trusting 'Wikileaks' (5) Apparently not 'living in London Ecuador Embassy' at all, only there for photos, meetings (6) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies (7) People dead & jailed-arrested after contacting Assange & Snowden gangs, dead: Seth Rich, Peter W Smith.jailed-arrested: Reality Leigh Winner, Terry James Albury (8) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear

    2013 'Edward Snowden' and his 'leaked stolen documents' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee and Jewish ex-gay-p-rnographer Glenn Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake by all major gov intel agencies (6) Won't discuss US Virginia fed judge corruption files that would block his own 'extradition' he claims to fear (7) FBI agent Terry James Albury the most recent casualty after allegedly 'leaking' to Greenwald - Intercept, one more jailed or dead duped by the Assange-Snowden hoaxers

    2016 Panama Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists' (2) Shielding prominent Israeli & US & Nato political figures (3) Focus on targets of hostility for US & related oligarchy (4) ICIJ 'International Consortium of Investigative Journalists' co-managed by the official Mossad historian Yossi Melman (!), and Israeli military journo Uri Blau, hence another CIA-Mossad 'rat trip' to identify & then harass, even silence & kill, real whistle-blowers & dissidents (5) Quickly recognised as a political psy-op, another CIA 'leaker - dissident' fraud

    2017 Paradise Papers 'leaks' ... (1) 'Leaked' to Mossad-&-oligarch tied well-funded 'investigative journalists', same Israeli-Mossad crew as 'Panama Papers' above, serving same oligarch interests, warning the world's rich who do not get into line with CIA and Mossad

    Brabantian, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite writers/educators…one resource leads one to another and another and so on, I am learning. Lately, almost every new resource I come upon I am finding your commentary & this is giving me a sense of relief I am in the right place…I read your commentary here before seeing your name & was pleasantly surprised to see your name, though I guess not insanely surprised.
    It’s been so all-encompassing to take in so much information & it’s been a lengthy process of weeding out the trash from the treasure. I feel like I’ve finally arrived at a point where I am reading good information – seeing that you are here gives me a sense of security I’m not wasting my time. Learning a lot from you & it’s allowing me to make notes & delve off into other areas in which to do more research. I have to continue to keep in mind to not get too wrapped up in reading too many comments. I am always put off when too much back & forth arguing/bickering comes up. Because I know that I am no scholar on these subjects, I can get thrown off track & get confused as to what truths I am looking to glean from whatever article I am reading & will readily admit I need to do some sharpening of my critical thinking skills.
    I guess I need to develop thicker skin because I shouldn’t allow myself to be thrown off track by others emotions and opinions, to which they are of course entitled AND a first amendment that gives them the right to express this – well, mostly, for now at least. I just get a little down & out & disheartened to see the whole divide and conquer thing alive & well & materialized in the comment sections after having taken in some really great reading, such as this article here by Laurent G. I downloaded this as it has so much information in it that is just as relevant today as it was 50+ years ago, sadly enough.

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  198. Wally says:
    @ANON
    For someone who appears to want to be taken seriously when you give us your very confident views on 9/11 and other favoured UR commentators' conspiracies you really can be a careless ass (as for donkey).

    The idea that WW2 which started on 1st Seltember 1939 when Germany invaded Poland was "brought about" by " Great Britain and the FDR administration" for "economic and financial [or any other] reasons" is just so clueless that you can't be taken seriously on anything. (Try getting your mind round why FDR made the very anti- British and anti-war Joe Kennedy Ambassador in the UK.... just to ease you into the beginnings of understanding of the reality as sgainst your nonsense. And have you heard of PM Neville Chamberlain and appeasement? Do you even know when Churchill was restored to the Cabinet and when he became PM?).

    Actually Chamberlain made a fair & just deal for all involved. I doubt that you even know what you’re talking about.
    Recall the Britain & France declared war on Germany but not the USSR, who invaded Poland from the east.
    Try debating, if you think you know what you’re talking about:
    WWII Europe / Atlantic Theater Revisionist Forum

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=20

    Did Britain initiate both world wars?

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10458

    Responsibility for WW2

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544

    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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  199. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:

    Try finding a neuroscientist who can give you the extra IQ points to understand what the argument is. You completely missed the point that the appeasing Chamberlain – who was PM when the war started – was clearly not conspiring with the FDR administration to bring about war. That’s just plain thick and gets you a fail mark.

    As to not declaring war on the Soviet Union what exactly is your argument? What was the prior agreement/guarantee that Britain and France entered into? Would declaring war on the Soviet Union have made it more likely that Germany would fail to occupy a large part of Poland?

    Wally, we all know you are the dim boy who’s stiil trying to please his teacher parents despite being stuck at the back of the classroom full of younger kids but please learn that boring repetition of same old, same old with educated adults doesn’t cut it.

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    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, "Polish independence and sovereignty" were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of "Polish sovereignty and independence." But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler's terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as "Czechoslovakia", by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.
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  200. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @ANON
    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?

    Ah, I see Wally did it for Beefcake at about the right intellectual level…

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  201. @NoseytheDuke
    Interesting that this would appear at the same time...

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/30/steal-this-book-the-publishing-misadventures-of-a-cia-whistleblower/

    I asked an experienced foreign correspondent and TV producer whom I can rely on 100 per cent not to lie to me about Prouty and got the succinct answer “nutter”. Accordingly I asked for some links or sources from the busy person,and, in the absence of further correspondence went Googling. Obviously Prouty himself isn’t around to edit his Wikipedia entry but there are plenty of people who have an interest in supporting his reputation. He seems to have had a good safe and quite interesting WW2 career and a short career in the CIA where one suspects his nickname may have been “Walter Mitty”. He was in Antarctica in a fairly humble role over the days before and after JFK’s assassination which must have made him perfect for an Oliver Stone fantasy. He comes across as a chancer even if he wasn’t outright lying in his story of Alexander Butterfield being a CIA agent in the White House. Evidence value/ Credibility value: Zero? Or what do you say?

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  202. Mulegino1 says:
    @ANON
    In contrast to? And where do we find your little cache of uncertified nutters' links, citations and footnotes?

    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor’s “Origins of the Second World War”, David Hoggan’s “The Forced War” and “The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War” by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR’s roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing “German aggression.”

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    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.
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  203. Mulegino1 says:
    @ANON
    Try finding a neuroscientist who can give you the extra IQ points to understand what the argument is. You completely missed the point that the appeasing Chamberlain - who was PM when the war started - was clearly not conspiring with the FDR administration to bring about war. That's just plain thick and gets you a fail mark.

    As to not declaring war on the Soviet Union what exactly is your argument? What was the prior agreement/guarantee that Britain and France entered into? Would declaring war on the Soviet Union have made it more likely that Germany would fail to occupy a large part of Poland?

    Wally, we all know you are the dim boy who's stiil trying to please his teacher parents despite being stuck at the back of the classroom full of younger kids but please learn that boring repetition of same old, same old with educated adults doesn't cut it.

    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, “Polish independence and sovereignty” were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of “Polish sovereignty and independence.” But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler’s terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as “Czechoslovakia”, by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.

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    Everyone ,who does not know must take heed of Anons brilliant truth on what and who ignited WW2 . That conflict ," The Jews War of survival " , put them fully in charge ....the defeat of the Axis ,was the looks of the Sun ( Gentile Foundation) , v Saturn ( Jews Progenerator) . The Jews got full reign of the Wests Finances after that. The nation - states no longer soverign ,but subject to the Jews rule . They detest Europe ...It's Polytheistic Foundations ,Classical Culture ; Athens / Rome v Jerusalem rivalry ..." Thought v " YAHWEH Commands . They pushed two world wars there : " The best of the Goyim must be killed " so says their Talmud . Hence they sicked the world British/ French Empires on Germany leading to ALL loosing to International Jewry post war . Adolf Hitler ," I am a man of the Hellenes " forever villified ,because to know how HE ," as a lonely little man defeated them in Germany " ,and truth about the reality of that conflict gives the Jews away .
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  204. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1
    You can find the true history of the origins of the Second World War in any number of scholarly works which absolutely demolish your silly, simplistic and Manichean narrative of unique German guilt.

    Start with A.J.P. Taylor's "Origins of the Second World War", David Hoggan's "The Forced War" and "The War That Had Many Fathers: The Long Run Up to the Second World War" by Gerd Schultze-Rhonof. They- in a copiously foot noted and scholarly fashion- absolutely demolish the childish narrative of Hitler attacking Poland because he wanted Lebensraum, hated Slavs, and wanted to conquer the world. When discussing the origins of an armed conflict, the question is not merely who fired the first shot, but what led to the firing of that shot. Germany was essentially forced into a war it neither desired nor sought- and this was brought about primarily by the British war party (Churchill, Vanistartt, Eden, Cooper, Belisha, and the Focus Group, inter alia), the FDR administration- especially FDR's roving ambassador William Bullit, and a bellicose and intransigent Polish regime, whose leaders let themselves be used in the most cynical fashion by the foolish and dishonest British-French guarantee of military alliance.

    You may also have taken note of the fact that there was no declaration of war by France or Britain on the USSR, despite the fact that that country invaded Poland from the east mere weeks after the Germans invaded. The object of the Second World War was the destruction of Germany; it had little or nothing to do with opposing "German aggression."

    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.

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    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.
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  205. @ANON
    I feel no obligation to waste time on your bizarre confection as you have not done me the courtesy of characterising my expressed position honestly and accurately. Probably that is not within your intellectual competence, as your ignorant pseudo scientific blathering on 9/11 related issues also suggests, so I invite no further correspondence.

    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.

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    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.
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  206. ANON[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Your position is little more than apologia and has received all of the respect it deserves.

    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.

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    Yawn.
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  207. Robjil says:

    This Old testament craziness continues. There was a chemical attack by ZUS rebels. Syria and Russia will be “blamed” by OT crazy MSM.

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  208. @ANON
    A wise man knows his limitations. I applaud you. A series of short grunts is entirely appropriate.

    Yawn.

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  209. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "Strangely, it is during the Vietnam War that the term “Holocaust” became the common designation of the killing of Jews during World War II."

    Except that the alleged '6,000,000' is an impossible scam that has been promoted since at least 1823.

    Apparently the author has never bothered looked for proof of the ridiculous & fake "killing of Jews during World war II".

    www.codoh.com

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    I agree that things should be open to discussion and debate and if the true number is different, it should be disseminated to the public.

    To me, though, whether 6 million died or not is far less important an issue than whether we ‘get’ to publicly discuss such things.

    If it were acceptable for anyone and everyone to start publicly discussing such things in earnest, free from silencing gags such as losing your job or risking the safety of your family, it would open the door to discussing a great many other things. At lot hinges on how they were treated by the Nazis, it is their modern day ‘Trump’ card to squash any opposition or question. If that’s not sacred then questions like whether they are discriminatory against Christians, Gentiles, etc. could be publicly discussed. People may well start to wonder things like, how can it be that whites writ large are so bad for having net worths higher than NAMs, when the Chosen people have net worths even higher?

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  210. Hibernian says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "A misfortune of six million Jews has been pronounced from time to time over the last two hundred years. "

    Indeed, the fake 6M has been promoted since at least 1823:
    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF
    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    see the impossible 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    You have already posted that newspaper collage about a thousand times.

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    I've actually heard the 6 million trope many, many thousands of times and in fact never even considered questioning it until laws started being enacted to imprison people for merely questioning it. I had always thought that revision is an essential part of why historians exist.

    The more one does look into the holocaust narrative the more one must conclude that, at the very least it has been exaggerated and, far worse, it has been used as a fig leaf to cover for present day crimes against humanity. Clearly, many of the "facts" are anything but facts and since I work on the principle that if I'm lied to once I will assume that everything that follows from that source is potentially and even probably a lie too.

    Even if the number were correct, which I'm quite sure it isn't, why would that be of greater concern than for the 50 million plus other people who also suffered and died in WWII? Does your great concern for human rights extend to Palestinians too?

    Methinks the Hibernian doth protest too much.
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  211. Hibernian says:
    @Anon
    April 11 2013 edition of a Long Island NY Jewish community newspaper the
    5 towns Jewish times has a long article claiming Lyndon Johnson was some kind of jew from a Jewish family who pretended to be Protestants.

    Maybe it’s just the trendy Jewish fad of claiming that all sorts of famous people like Christopher Columbus were really Jews. Read the article it’s on the internet.

    That Polish Pope I forget his name had an ethnic Jewish mother whose family became catholic.

    It’s not far fetched.

    “That Polish Pope I forget his name…”

    John Paul II aka St. John Paul the Great

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  212. Hibernian says:
    @anarchyst
    Eisenhower used federal troops in violation of "posse comitatus" laws, which prohibit the use of the military for civilian "law enforcement".
    When he enforced a school desegregation order in 1957 using federal troops, he was in violation and should have been brought to task on his lawless behavior.

    There are exceptions to Posse Comitatus.

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  213. @Hibernian
    You have already posted that newspaper collage about a thousand times.

    I’ve actually heard the 6 million trope many, many thousands of times and in fact never even considered questioning it until laws started being enacted to imprison people for merely questioning it. I had always thought that revision is an essential part of why historians exist.

    The more one does look into the holocaust narrative the more one must conclude that, at the very least it has been exaggerated and, far worse, it has been used as a fig leaf to cover for present day crimes against humanity. Clearly, many of the “facts” are anything but facts and since I work on the principle that if I’m lied to once I will assume that everything that follows from that source is potentially and even probably a lie too.

    Even if the number were correct, which I’m quite sure it isn’t, why would that be of greater concern than for the 50 million plus other people who also suffered and died in WWII? Does your great concern for human rights extend to Palestinians too?

    Methinks the Hibernian doth protest too much.

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  214. Wade says:

    The Jews are extremely smart.

    Regarding the point about Noam Chomsky, does anyone know if Chomsky did these things (dialectical engineering of history, as it were) knowingly or was this just an historical accident?

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  215. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Operation Mockingbird

    Operation Mockingbird began in 1950, organized by Allen Dulles and Cord Meyer.[1] The CIA spent today's equivalent of one billion dollars a year hiring journalists from Corporate Media including CBS, The New York Times, ABC, NBC, Newsweek, Associated Press and others, to promote their point of view. The original operation reportedly involved some 3,000 CIA operatives and hired over 400 journalists. [2]
     

    This ongoing CIA operation naturally raises problems with Wikipedia's policy of deeming commercially-controlled media as reliable, and even more serious problems for policy of using corporate media attention to determine "notability". Most seriously of all, if the CIA (or anyone else, such as the deep state) can control big media, then Wikipedia's policy will continue the censorship by default. This realisation underlies the rationale of Wikispooks.
     

    Mind‐Control Studies Had Origins in Trial of Mindszenty

    The C.I.A. leaders were certain the Communists had embarked on a campaign to control men’s minds and they were determined to find a defense, setting out in earnest the next year‐1950—with Project Bluebird, which evolved into Project Artichoke, then became MKULTRA — MK — DELTA. With each code name change, they broadened their sweep, until there remained virtually no avenue of human behavior control they were not exploring.

    AMERICAN CARDINAL CONDEMNS MINDSZENTY TRIAL

    [MORE]

    Source: http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017363

    Cardinal Mindszenty had acted on the assumption that the overthrow of the Hungarian Government, with the consequent “restoration of the Hungarian Catholic Monarchy of Hapsburg in its place, could be achieved with help from abroad…in case a new world war created such a situation,” to quote his own words.[5] “I regarded it (the outbreak of the third world war) as a basis,” said the Cardinal. … The Cardinal had been designated a key part in a “successful insurrection.” That is, he had been appointed jointly by Pius XII, the Hungarian insurrectionists and the CIA as “Premier” of Liberated Hungary.http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/austrians-vote-against-muslim-anschluss-get-called-nazis/#comment-2053935

    Avery Dulles Ordained 1956/6/18

    Avery Dulles ordained in New York by Archbishop Spellman, pictured with his father John Foster Dulles and Spellman (partial newsreel).http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2017173

    Vietnam why did we go?

    Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Manhattan [...]

    With an immense collection of facts, photos, names and dates, Manhattan proves that the Vietnam War began as a religious conflict. He shows how America was manipulated into supporting Catholic oppression in Vietnam supposedly to fight communism.

    http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2016919

    VIETNAM—THE CROATIA OF ASIA

    The South Vietnamese and Croatian Catholic dictatorships, therefore, are the most striking examples of how the spirit of Catholicism can stultify the most diverse political systems and cultures with the bacillae of intolerance.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-killing-of-history/#comment-2020843

    The Vatican’s Holocaust Book Review Part 1

    The Vatican’s Holocaust Book Review Part 2

    After prolonged and painful assessment, Kennedy and his closest associates finally reached the conclusion that the only way to get rid of the Diem regime was to get rid of President Diem himself. There have been contradictory reports of how the ultimate decision was reached and by whom. Although books, and newspapers have described the step by step evolution, in the end it turned out to be a planned cold blooded assassination of Diem. [13]
    [...]
    Might it be possible and conceivable, that President Kennedy was assassinated [on] the orders of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic lobby as “revenge” for Diem’s assassination?

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1689501

    Ngo Dinh Diem 3 January 1901 – 2 November 1963

    John F. Kennedy
    May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963

    Video time-stamped to 1 min 23 sec:

    Cold War Mandarin: Ngo Dinh Diem and the origins of America’s war in Vietnam, 1950-1963

    Boston College Libraries
    Published on Mar 1, 2018

    Excerpt from transcript:

    01:23
    there’s the fact that he was a Catholic
    01:24
    and that meant an awful lot in the
    01:26
    United States the 1950s there was a
    01:28
    major religious revival that was
    01:30
    sweeping the United States Catholic
    01:32
    credentials looked just impeccable in
    01:34
    waging cold war may have noticed that
    01:36
    the most famous communist hunter of that
    01:38
    era Joseph McCarthy was himself a
    01:39
    Catholic one widespread Catholic support
    01:42
    the FBI which was the really the
    01:45
    domestic arm of the anti-communist
    01:47
    crusade recruited very heavily at
    01:49
    Catholic colleges like Fordham and Notre
    01:50
    Dame people like Cardinal Spellman John
    01:54
    F Kennedy Mike Mansfield all very
    01:55
    prominent Catholic [cold war] warriors

    New York Hails Vietnam’s President Diem (1957)

    Why Catholics thrive in the CIA

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/may-6th-2016/why-catholics-thrive-in-the-cia/

    Source: https://grrrgraphics.com/the-cia-unleashed/

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  216. @Andy
    Blaming Jews for the Vietnam war? well, that maybe a bit of a stretch...

    No stretch at all my dear ….The Jews nasty tribal God Yahweh ( See Yahweh God Of The NWO ,You Tube ) , commands it’s ,his what’s ,’ Chosen People ” ; ” By deception thou shall do war “. The Jews ,secular ,” Liberal ” ” Conservative ” take all of this very seriously . Funny how the Jews ,masters of the lie ,and owners of Hollywood , pull the same false flags ,again ,and again , yet the public still falls for it ,again ,and again . From the Spainish American War , Lusitania set up , Red Line over Danzig ,Pearl Harbor ,Korean Gun Boats , Gulf Of Tonkin , through Jew worshipping Bush 2 s WMD we see it work ….” Oh no the poor Jews didn’t do it .” Well they aren’t ” Poor ” , and better watch out . They are setting up Syria with LIES about Putin / Assad with ” poision gas ” to begin WW3.

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  217. @Mulegino1
    Your so called arguments absolutely prove my point: neither Britain nor France were truly interested in the defense of Poland or the integrity of Polish territory (this was further demonstrated at Yalta). To the leaders of their war parties, "Polish independence and sovereignty" were convenient tripwires for bringing about a war against Germany.

    If the leaders of France and Britain had been truly committed to the defense of Poland, they would have declared war on the USSR for its own violation of "Polish sovereignty and independence." But all you heard were crickets chirping- the chorus of internationalist hypocrites who wanted to preserve the financial hegemony of Wall St. and the City of London.

    The German-Polish war could have been avoided very easily if Hitler's terms- which were quite conciliatory and initially more generous than those of his Weimar predecessors with respect to Danzig and the Corridor- had been accepted by the Poles.

    Poland actually participated- along with Germany- in the dismemberment of the artificial entity known as "Czechoslovakia", by annexing the Teschen region.

    Had it not been for the foolish and cynical promise of military alliance by Britain to Poland, it is most likely that the questions regarding Danzig and the corridor would have been resolved amicably. Germany would have gotten a transportation route to East Prussia, Danzig would have returned to the Reich (although the Poles would still retain rights to use the port), the Poles would have gotten the port at Gdynia and retained sovereignty over the corridor.

    Instead, Britain, along with France, plunged Europe into a war whose outcome was the destruction of much of Western and Central Europe by allied bombing, the enslavement of much of Eastern and Central Europe to communism, the submission of Western Europe to NATO hegemony, the destruction of the British Empire, the establishment of a criminal, terrorist enclave in the Middle East, and the current overwhelming of Europe by a tsunami of third world scoria.

    Everyone ,who does not know must take heed of Anons brilliant truth on what and who ignited WW2 . That conflict ,” The Jews War of survival ” , put them fully in charge ….the defeat of the Axis ,was the looks of the Sun ( Gentile Foundation) , v Saturn ( Jews Progenerator) . The Jews got full reign of the Wests Finances after that. The nation – states no longer soverign ,but subject to the Jews rule . They detest Europe …It’s Polytheistic Foundations ,Classical Culture ; Athens / Rome v Jerusalem rivalry …” Thought v ” YAHWEH Commands . They pushed two world wars there : ” The best of the Goyim must be killed ” so says their Talmud . Hence they sicked the world British/ French Empires on Germany leading to ALL loosing to International Jewry post war . Adolf Hitler ,” I am a man of the Hellenes ” forever villified ,because to know how HE ,” as a lonely little man defeated them in Germany ” ,and truth about the reality of that conflict gives the Jews away .

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  218. j2 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    This may be of interest:

    http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/Final_Judgment.pdf

    Beefcake the Mighty, here you have my review of Piper’s book you proposed I might be interested in, it was interesting and I had not read it before, so many thanks yet another time

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/04/11/comments-on-michael-collins-pipers-book-the-final-judgment/

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  219. Ask yourself this, who had the power to change the route at the last minute?
    Who had the power to pull the SS off and alongside the Lincoln at the last minute?
    Who had the power to cordon off the entire area behind the grassy knoll including flashing badges to ward off Dallas police?
    Who had the power to take control of the autopsy despite that contradicting Texas laws?
    Who had the power to cause all media to run with the lone gunman theory long before any genuine investigation took place?
    Who had the means to control the cover up of the limo evidence such as the windshield bullet hole and threaten witnesses?
    Who had the motive to eliminate various witnesses due to testimony contradicting official narratives?
    Who has the motive to continue to sow disinformation such as the more recent documentary that an accidental discharge from a following SS gun killed JFK? Likewise various alternative theories such as the driver turning and shooting (shellfish toxin) JFK?
    I’m sure other commenters can provide many other telling irregularities, so who could accomplish all of these with such wide ranging control?

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  220. j2 says:

    NoseyTheDuke, All but one of these may have the answer, somebody very high in the CIA, but not McCone, who seems to have been on the same side as Kennedy on important political issues. Piper’s ghost would answer Angleton. Some institutional part of the CIA has been connected to the conspiracy, and Angleton is a natural choice, so these do not add to Piper’s theory, but your one point is different:
    Who has the motive to continue to sow disinformation?
    This cannot be late Angleton. The most logical answer is that it may be the same forces which continue to sow disinformation on other issues in the media. But Piper’s thesis is still not proven, since these forces are domestic to the USA while Piper tried to implicate a foreign player. I would still like to see one strong argument that ties the foreign player to this conspiracy. One strong, not many weak. I would not be surprised if Piper’s thesis were wrong and these forces were always domestic to the USA, since much happened before 1948 and they cannot be explained by something that came to existence in 1948. I think the explanation should cover what happened after 1840 (Zvi Hirsch Kalischer: the time of redemption started 1840 and will last 100 years and if by that time restoration has not happened, it will happen but with much suffering, too accurate predictions are suspicious) up to now.

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  221. Miville says:

    I do not agree with that author :
    1) YHWH is not a tribal god exerting perpetual vengeance upon his chosen people in exchange for the right to do the same to outsiders. YHWH is mot clearly for whom studies real Hebrew and Semitic phonetics the very sound of free breath. Ya : breathing in. aH : holding in We : breathing out eH : holding out. It means breath energy you never try to control but abandon yourself to. That is the whole story about Yahwism. In other words it is an oriental kind of spirituality but with no frills at all as are to be found in Hinduism.
    2) There are Jews who interpret their thing as a justification for psychopathology but once more it has nothing to do with a tribal god, it is witchcraft pure and simple and the tribe they refer to is composed of all practitioners of black magic. Just read Aleister Crowley, the guy never claimed to be a Jew but he could move at all his ease with the Jewish oligarchy. This group of all brothers of the Dark now loves to present themselves as Jewish only because it impresses and enables to manipulate very easily Western audiences still marked in their subconscious by former Christian reflexes, but once the Great Apostasy is consummated, it will no longer claim of Judaism but most probably, according to Albert Pike, of Vedic Brahmanism.
    3) JFK was a oligarchical scoundrel like all others : there never was any chance that any idealist be nominated for such a function at any point in American history since Benjamin Franklin, the worst of all. He never disobeyed any organ of the deep state, the guy was in total admiration before all mafias and anything that looked or worked like a mafia. He obeyed so well he had to be immortalized into a false tragic hero before his Nero-like murderous character threatened to seep out. His assassination was devised by LBJ, Hoover and Dulles before his election, as he was the first 100% jewish media made president. Whenever the general public remembers somebody as a good guy thanks to MSM he is never good. Had he shown the slightest whiff of dissidence he would have been dishonoured first, like Nixon, forgotten like Wallace, and then only killed like Malcom X or Qaddhafi. Israel played no role in JFK’s assassination as the main Zionist institutions of America were 200% satisfied of him (JFK surprised them a great deal as he decided that the Western public had to be told the tale of the manned moon landing so as to make everybody lose grip on reality and make them satisfied with more and more virtual goods and pay).
    4) Exactly the same thing for MLK, a beast immortalized into a saint by the same team and assassinated by the very same panel as JFK (LBJ, Hoover, Dulles). Benjamin Franklin, as a combination of rabid Jewish supremacist and Calvinism together with occultism, wanted a future American history devoid of the slightest move of chivalrous heroism except moved by greed and avarice, and he succeeded.

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    I agree with much what you write, but for some small differences:
    1) Tetragrammaton is traditionally (tradition=kabbalah) interpreted as Yod=male aspect of God, He=female aspect of God, so the second He is another female and usually understood as the sister of the lower god, Adam Kadmon, born as the Messiah. Waw actually does not fit that well, but they never were exactly logical. Tetragrammaton is understood on the basis of Sephirot, so there are two Gods, the single (no eyelid) eyed Macroprosopus and Microprosopus, who has two red eyes, eyelids and nostrils, from which comes the smoke of hatred. That is why is is necessary to sacrifice to calm down Microprosopus, and drink blood as Idra Zuta says in the end. This interpretation was not created in the Middle Ages, it goes down to at least 2nd Century AD Judaism, since is is attested in Jewish Christian Gnosticism around that time.
    2) You mean Freemasonry in the wider sense, that includes Rosicrucian, O.T.O., Martinism, Theosophy and all these esoteric doctrines from Europe. You are correct. That is just what it is, black magic, but politically it meant Tikkun, which meant destruction of all Christian kings (Edom) and restoration of Israel. Originally it is Christian Zionism coupled with occultism, that mostly derives from Kabbalah Denuta (translations of some cabbalistic texts). They were mostly not Jews, but considered themselves as Jews in the occult sense.
    3) Israel was not pleased with JFK trying to stop the nuclear weapon program. Why JFK was made an idol by Americans the rest of the world never understood, but there must have been some sense in it. Cuba made Che Guevara an idol the revolution. Maybe they thought that it is good to give the people an ideal, a martyr of the liberal cause. Jews voted for liberals. KKK was against liberals. It may have been good to say if JFK would have lived he would have done this (insert something destroying the society, like spend all this money on the moon landing, somebody gained a lot in contracts). I do not see that assassins necessarily would have smeared JFK, it would have made them the prime suspects. Better to praise the dead scoundrel. LBJ, Hoover, Dulles, no Israel, no Jews. LBJ was a Christian Zionist and pro-Israel, Hoover was a homo and maybe blackmailed for it, Dulles was so close to the banker's club that he found Maurice Joly's book. These three surely were in the conspiracy, but I do not exclude the two later ones: who controls the media that did most of the cover-up?
    4) People are so happy to say that MLK was a rapist with a Jewish ghost writer, but I have a dream is understood by the listeners as idealism and creates idealism. Of course the New World is supposed to be run by egoistic greed. That is capitalism as opposed to the ancient regime with king and nobles.
    In everything else we agree. I also do not agree with the author of the article, but basically in the thesis that the Vietnam war was started so that Israel could have its wars in the Middle East. Piper advances a similar argument. I think the goal actually was to stop the spread of Communism as it was not any more controlled by the occult club.
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  222. j2 says:
    @Miville
    I do not agree with that author :
    1) YHWH is not a tribal god exerting perpetual vengeance upon his chosen people in exchange for the right to do the same to outsiders. YHWH is mot clearly for whom studies real Hebrew and Semitic phonetics the very sound of free breath. Ya : breathing in. aH : holding in We : breathing out eH : holding out. It means breath energy you never try to control but abandon yourself to. That is the whole story about Yahwism. In other words it is an oriental kind of spirituality but with no frills at all as are to be found in Hinduism.
    2) There are Jews who interpret their thing as a justification for psychopathology but once more it has nothing to do with a tribal god, it is witchcraft pure and simple and the tribe they refer to is composed of all practitioners of black magic. Just read Aleister Crowley, the guy never claimed to be a Jew but he could move at all his ease with the Jewish oligarchy. This group of all brothers of the Dark now loves to present themselves as Jewish only because it impresses and enables to manipulate very easily Western audiences still marked in their subconscious by former Christian reflexes, but once the Great Apostasy is consummated, it will no longer claim of Judaism but most probably, according to Albert Pike, of Vedic Brahmanism.
    3) JFK was a oligarchical scoundrel like all others : there never was any chance that any idealist be nominated for such a function at any point in American history since Benjamin Franklin, the worst of all. He never disobeyed any organ of the deep state, the guy was in total admiration before all mafias and anything that looked or worked like a mafia. He obeyed so well he had to be immortalized into a false tragic hero before his Nero-like murderous character threatened to seep out. His assassination was devised by LBJ, Hoover and Dulles before his election, as he was the first 100% jewish media made president. Whenever the general public remembers somebody as a good guy thanks to MSM he is never good. Had he shown the slightest whiff of dissidence he would have been dishonoured first, like Nixon, forgotten like Wallace, and then only killed like Malcom X or Qaddhafi. Israel played no role in JFK's assassination as the main Zionist institutions of America were 200% satisfied of him (JFK surprised them a great deal as he decided that the Western public had to be told the tale of the manned moon landing so as to make everybody lose grip on reality and make them satisfied with more and more virtual goods and pay).
    4) Exactly the same thing for MLK, a beast immortalized into a saint by the same team and assassinated by the very same panel as JFK (LBJ, Hoover, Dulles). Benjamin Franklin, as a combination of rabid Jewish supremacist and Calvinism together with occultism, wanted a future American history devoid of the slightest move of chivalrous heroism except moved by greed and avarice, and he succeeded.

    I agree with much what you write, but for some small differences:
    1) Tetragrammaton is traditionally (tradition=kabbalah) interpreted as Yod=male aspect of God, He=female aspect of God, so the second He is another female and usually understood as the sister of the lower god, Adam Kadmon, born as the Messiah. Waw actually does not fit that well, but they never were exactly logical. Tetragrammaton is understood on the basis of Sephirot, so there are two Gods, the single (no eyelid) eyed Macroprosopus and Microprosopus, who has two red eyes, eyelids and nostrils, from which comes the smoke of hatred. That is why is is necessary to sacrifice to calm down Microprosopus, and drink blood as Idra Zuta says in the end. This interpretation was not created in the Middle Ages, it goes down to at least 2nd Century AD Judaism, since is is attested in Jewish Christian Gnosticism around that time.
    2) You mean Freemasonry in the wider sense, that includes Rosicrucian, O.T.O., Martinism, Theosophy and all these esoteric doctrines from Europe. You are correct. That is just what it is, black magic, but politically it meant Tikkun, which meant destruction of all Christian kings (Edom) and restoration of Israel. Originally it is Christian Zionism coupled with occultism, that mostly derives from Kabbalah Denuta (translations of some cabbalistic texts). They were mostly not Jews, but considered themselves as Jews in the occult sense.
    3) Israel was not pleased with JFK trying to stop the nuclear weapon program. Why JFK was made an idol by Americans the rest of the world never understood, but there must have been some sense in it. Cuba made Che Guevara an idol the revolution. Maybe they thought that it is good to give the people an ideal, a martyr of the liberal cause. Jews voted for liberals. KKK was against liberals. It may have been good to say if JFK would have lived he would have done this (insert something destroying the society, like spend all this money on the moon landing, somebody gained a lot in contracts). I do not see that assassins necessarily would have smeared JFK, it would have made them the prime suspects. Better to praise the dead scoundrel. LBJ, Hoover, Dulles, no Israel, no Jews. LBJ was a Christian Zionist and pro-Israel, Hoover was a homo and maybe blackmailed for it, Dulles was so close to the banker’s club that he found Maurice Joly’s book. These three surely were in the conspiracy, but I do not exclude the two later ones: who controls the media that did most of the cover-up?
    4) People are so happy to say that MLK was a rapist with a Jewish ghost writer, but I have a dream is understood by the listeners as idealism and creates idealism. Of course the New World is supposed to be run by egoistic greed. That is capitalism as opposed to the ancient regime with king and nobles.
    In everything else we agree. I also do not agree with the author of the article, but basically in the thesis that the Vietnam war was started so that Israel could have its wars in the Middle East. Piper advances a similar argument. I think the goal actually was to stop the spread of Communism as it was not any more controlled by the occult club.

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  223. @Christinne
    Basically the answer is yes. Always look for the Jew/s behind the curtain. Far too many wars and other historical tragedies have Jews behind them. The same can be said about the Civil War. Fratricidal war. The problem was not slavery. Think again.

    Indeed the first modern state genocide of Christian Armenians in Ottoman Turkey at the turn of the century was planned by crpto dom Jews Enver and Talat Pasha. Theodore Herzl worked overtime to keep the ongoing genocide hush hush in exchange for the Palestinian lands for his Zionist contigency from the perpetrators. How ironic that the German genocide enablers of the Turks gleaned their ghastly lessons and applied them in the mass slaughter of the Jews 25 years later ( of course only the Jews were subject to genocide-oops). You would think a nation such as Israel would acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, but no…not only do they not recognize it, they use their powerful lobby to thwart efforts to recognize it in the United States. The whole thing is disgusting and hopeless… the sooner Christ comes back, the better.

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  224. @Dave from Oz
    "There is little evidence that Pentagon generals, let alone CIA officers, needed a war, any war, at all cost. But I could think of no other explanation, short of the unlimited greed of war profiteers, of whom Johnson was a highly representative specimen."

    Ask a simple question: what would happen to the American warfighting apparatus and to the MIC if, through some misfortune or oversight, a year or so were to pass without a war being fought somewhere? It's not about the money, it's about the culture. People might let their "Support Our Troops" bumper-stickers lapse.

    The continuous state of war is in and of itself a psyop being executed by the militaries of the world against their own peoples.

    “People might let their “Support Our Troops” bumper-stickers lapse.”
    It’s all part of the packaging. I openly say that I “support our troops”, but quickly add that I don’t support the mission, because the death of one our soldiers, fighting someone else’s war, is one too many.

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  225. @anarchyst
    Not true. Watergate was revenge from Mark Felt for NOT being appointed FBI director. Mark Felt considered himself "next in line" for the FBI director position. When he was passed over by President Nixon, in favor of L. Patrick Gray, all bets were off. The Democrat revenge machine went full tilt and destroyed the Nixon presidency.

    Recall the Nixon – Billy Graham conversation about the Jews grip on the press, and how it would bring the country down? Y’think Henry Kiss-my-ass didn’t know about Nixon’s views? One tribesman, Henry, picks up the phone to call another tribesman slighted by Nixon, Felt, and it’s game on.

    I always thought Graham was too Joo friendly, and Nixon’s sweaty upper lip should have kept him off TV, but it turned out they were were somewhat prophetic. Joos are not a faceless mass, but organized Jewry, like AIPAC and the ADL would have people believe that all Jews are 100% unified on every issue organized Jewry fronts. Dicky and Billy were certainly correct about the in your face ones.

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  226. If you accept the conjecture that all wars of the 20th century, particularly those in Europe and strategic locations around the world, were manufactured for the benefit of Zionism, then Vietnam becomes just one more scrumptious morsel in the destructive appetite of the so called chosen.

    Here, distraction and outright theft go hand in hand – (Revolutions in the 19th Century-destruction of christian kingdoms; Boer War-Land/Gold/Diamonds, WW1-usurpation of European governments-and-castration-of-Ottomans, WW2-Suppression of the Last Christian Resistance, Vietnam-profiteering/mass narco trafficking , Central America-destruction-of-independence-movement/narco-trafficking; Middle East-Land/Oil/Greater Israel.

    We have all reached this point. Its not so much of trying to understand Vietnam in a different light, but rather to go through the necessary mental gymnastics to address the question as to why the United States would purse such ridiculous and detrimental policies.

    The same question may be directed to broader conundrum as to why have Western governments been hell-bent in the pursuit of national suicide for the last century based on their insane foreign, economic and immigration policies.

    None of it makes sense, until one realizes that those respective governments have neither been serving the people nor a local elite, but rather a much more powerful, sinister foreign master.

    When one realizes that those respective governments have been serving the interests of a voracious parasite, then those suicidal policies start to make sense from the perspective of the parasite.

    While on the subject of Vietnam, think back and recall the most effective anti-war voices. Christian Martin Luther King, who went off the reservation and was banned from polite company when he chose to speak out against the war and Christian-John Lennon, who used in international stardom to address his rock boredom and pursue a bigger cause.

    As we all know, MLK was gunned down. But take the case, of John Lennon. We are constantly told the Nixon administration wanted to get him; but was it Nixon or the FBI/CIA, i.e. the deep state (which we now know serves Israel).

    In the late 70s, Lennon emerged from hiding after numerous earlier death threats to resume first his musical career and more than likely his outspoken activism. We will never know because he was murdered on December 8, 1980, less than 100 days before George H Bush and the Deep state tried to Murder Ronnie and install the vice president George Herbert Walker, just like twenty years earlier when they killed Kennedy.

    So how does Israel fit in all of this. Ask yourself, where would Lennon’s voice be during during the wars in Central America, the nuclearization of Europe and my favorite the Israel Invasion of Lebanon, the Destruction of Beirut and the Massacre of Sabra and Shatila.

    Lennon would have stirred up the masses like it was 1967. So Israel acted preemptively and stole an icon of peace from the rest of us. Maybe not the perfect human being, but certainly someone who was brave enough to speak out. Not like the current clowns who cannot wait to bend over for gold.

    So ask yourself. How much has Israel, the Rothschilds, the Private Central Banks and ZIONISM affected all of our lives?

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The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?