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A major London bookmaker, Ladbroke s, has given odds of 11–10 that Trump will resign or be impeached — almost even money. Of course, this is not in the least surprising given that Trump is loathed by the entire Establishment, Left to Right and is now being victimized by “Deep State” operatives in the intelligence community installed by previous administrations.

In the grand scheme of things, Trump is something of a miracle. In his case, an oligarchic system designed to pick candidates who would continue what is in effect a bipartisan campaign against the Historic American Nation failed, spectacularly.

Much of the recent hysteria has focused on three high-level Presidential advisors to the president: Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Mike Anton.

Anton, now the senior director of strategic communications at the National Security Council, has given the clearest indication of his attitudes. Written under the pseudonym of “Publius Decius Mus” (a Roman consul who sacrificed his life for the success of his troops) his September 2016 essay “The Flight 93 Election” is in tune with Alt Right themes—with some important exceptions,.

Anton’s essay caused a stir on the Right, but it was pretty much ignored by the Left until he was unmasked by The Weekly Standard on February 2 [Decius Mus Unmasked] because of his usefulness in smearing the Trump administration. Since then, it’s been hysterical condemnation.

beautifullosers Fundamentally, Anton claimed that Conservatism Inc. had completely failed because it refused to acknowledge that the long-term effects of importing a Third World population would be the end of conservatism. Conservatives Inc. types are “beautiful losers,” as Sam Francis described them — garnering huge sums of money but quite content with their sinecures while the movement as a whole is “headed off a cliff…The whole enterprise of Conservatism, Inc., reeks of failure. Its sole recent and ongoing success is its own self-preservation.”

Conservatives, according to Anton, are

the Washington Generals of American politics. Your job is to show up and lose, but you are a necessary part of the show and you do get paid. To the extent that you are ever on the winning side of anything, it’s as sophists who help the Davoisie oligarchy rationalize open borders, lower wages, outsourcing, de-industrialization, trade giveaways, and endless, pointless, winless war.

Perhaps the most amazing thing about Neocon and Conservative Inc. hostility toward Trump was that it was obvious to everyone what a Hillary Clinton presidency would mean—as Anton said, it would be

pedal-to-the-metal on the entire Progressive-left agenda, plus items few of us have yet imagined in our darkest moments. Nor is even that the worst. It will be coupled with a level of vindictive persecution against resistance and dissent hitherto seen in the supposedly liberal West only in the most ‘advanced’ Scandinavian countries and the most leftist corners of Germany and England.”

Yes indeed. A Clinton presidency would have been the end of outlets like VDARE.com and Occidental Observer, with a revamped Supreme Court more than ready to let the likes of Elena Kagan restrict free speech critical of immigration and multiculturalism, as we already see throughout Western Europe and on college campuses throughout America. The Leftist case against free speech has already received a great deal of attention by academics, so it’s just a matter of time before this way of thinking reaches a majority on the Supreme Court. Clinton’s presidency, especially with a compliant Democratic Congress, would have resulted more such Leftist Supreme Court justices.

And of course, it would have resulted in a huge immigration surge and amnesty for illegals, eventually electing a permanent Leftist Democrat voting majority.

For the Left, anyone not on the page with the transformation of America is a “Nazi.” As Anton noted caustically:

The Left was calling us Nazis long before any pro-Trumpers tweeted Holocaust denial memes. And how does one deal with a Nazi—that is, with an enemy one is convinced intends your destruction? You don’t compromise with him or leave him alone. You crush him.

Naturally, “crushing” includes sucker-punching people like Richard Spencer and other forms of physical violence, not to mention ostracism and job loss.

Anton’s conclusion:

So what do we have to lose by fighting back? Only our Washington Generals jerseys—and paychecks. But those are going away anyway. Among the many things the “Right” still doesn’t understand is that the Left has concluded that this particular show need no longer go on. They don’t think they need a foil anymore and would rather dispense with the whole bother of staging these phony contests in which each side ostensibly has a shot. (My emphasis)

Conservatives were on the point of losing by the time of the “Flight 93 Election” because the Left controls the Main Stream Media, and because conservative “leaders” bend over backwards to be acceptable to them. But, above all, it comes down to immigration. Anton wrote:

The ceaseless importation of Third World foreigners with no tradition of, taste for, or experience in liberty means that the electorate grows more left, more Democratic, less Republican, less republican, and less traditionally American with every cycle. As does, of course, the U.S. population, which only serves to reinforce the two other causes outlined above. This is the core reason why the Left, the Democrats, and the bipartisan junta (categories distinct but very much overlapping) think they are on the cusp of a permanent victory that will forever obviate the need to pretend to respect democratic and constitutional niceties. Because they are.

The sacredness of mass immigration is the mystic chord that unites America’s ruling and intellectual classes. …

This is insane. This is the mark of a party, a society, a country, a people, a civilization that wants to die. Trump, alone among candidates for high office in this or in the last seven (at least) cycles, has stood up to say: I want to live. I want my party to live. I want my country to live. I want my people to live. I want to end the insanity.

“My people”? Whatever could he mean by that? Sounds like a thinly disguised hint that Trump is a White advocate.

What to do? Here Anton reveals his fundamentally non-Alt Right perspective. He advocates assimilation and working class solidarity rather than more radical measures:

But we can probably do better than we are doing now. First, stop digging. No more importing poverty, crime, and alien cultures. We have made institutions, by leftist design, not merely abysmal at assimilation but abhorrent of the concept. We should try to fix that, but given the Left’s iron grip on every school and cultural center, that’s like trying to bring democracy to Russia. A worthy goal, perhaps, but temper your hopes—and don’t invest time and resources unrealistically.

By contrast, simply building a wall and enforcing immigration law will help enormously, by cutting off the flood of newcomers that perpetuates ethnic separatism and by incentivizing the English language and American norms in the workplace. These policies will have the added benefit of aligning the economic interests of, and (we may hope) fostering solidarity among, the working, lower middle, and middle classes of all races and ethnicities. The same can be said for Trumpian trade policies and anti-globalization instincts. Who cares if productivity numbers tick down, or if our already somnambulant GDP sinks a bit further into its pillow? Nearly all the gains of the last 20 years have accrued to the junta anyway. It would, at this point, be better for the nation to divide up more equitably a slightly smaller pie than to add one extra slice—only to ensure that it and eight of the other nine go first to the government and its rentiers, and the rest to the same four industries and 200 families.

Will this work? Ask a pessimist, get a pessimistic answer. So don’t ask. Ask instead: is it worth trying? Is it better than the alternative? If you can’t say, forthrightly, “yes,” you are either part of the junta, a fool, or a conservative intellectual.

I believe Anton’s hope that America’s different races and ethnicities will magically come together, identifying with their social class rather than their racial/ethnic identities, is a pipe dream. As Anton himself admits, such a notion goes against the entire agenda of the Left with its “iron grip” on the educational system and the MSM.

So even if Anton is right that cutting off immigration would foster assimilation, the contrary forces are pushing hard in the opposite, Cultural Marxist direction. They want their non-White constituencies to identify racially and ethnically first and foremost and they want their White constituencies to identify as a member of one of the ever-proliferating sexually defined victim classes (LGBTTQQIAAP??), or at least as just plain old guilt-ridden White liberals. The millions of poor, illiterate, low-IQ immigrants constituting the vanguard of the Left will ensure huge welfare payments and Affirmative Action indefinitely.

The fact is that the racialization of politics is the most salient fact of our time. The White population was coalescing in the Republican Party long before Trump came along and told them what they wanted to hear.

The days when the Democratic Party had a claim to the allegiance of the White working class are long gone, and for good reason: Their jobs have been shipped overseas and their wages have been impacted by the tsunami of immigrants. And unlike the elites who are able to avoid the costs by moving away, they are stuck with failing schools, dysfunctional neighborhoods, overcrowded neighborhoods and all the other consequences to public goods. The rainbow future is death for the White working class.

But, despite Trump’s appeal to the ordinary Americans, what he has been saying is absolutely not what the Washington Generals who have led the GOP wanted to hear. They were content to lose graciously while continuing to pick up their pay checks — until the plane crashes into the mountainside, at which point they would just jettison their “conservative principles” and capitulate the progressive agenda (“the GOP must have better outreach to Hispanics”). It was all just talk anyway, talk designed to appeal to a traditional American constituency that is being dispossessed

They’re glib, and facile writers, so I’m sure the progressives will find a place for them. Neocons, who now dominate he conservative media, originated on the Left and in a very real sense never abandoned it, despite their ability to push the buttons conservatives love to hear. Their essential role has been to move the GOP to the Left on all the issues the Left holds dear—first and foremost immigration. Just as Neocons had no real qualms about a Hillary presidency, they will happily sign on to a progressive agenda as long as it is aggressively pro-Israel and anti-Russian.

So in answer to Anton’s question, “Will it work?,” I would have to say it’s definitely worth it to build the wall and deport illegals — and also end Birthright Citizenship, end legal immigration and not provide refugees or guest workers with a path to citizenship. But even with all of this, what Anton calls the junta has created so many facts on the ground that none of these will really alter the downward trajectory of White America.

No, it won’t work. But it’s one helluva start. At the very least it will wake up White America to the scope of the problem, with all that implies for the future when things get really sticky. When White America sees itself heading over a cliff, as I believe that it will given the demographic trends already in place (e.g., White children are already a minority). the really interesting stuff will begin.

As VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow has said, it will come to blood. All the utopias dreamed up by the Left inevitably lead to bloodshed—because they conflict with fundamental human nature.

Despite Anton’s relatively mild views, he is now being attacked as evil incarnate by the entire Establishment, from the Left to the Neocon Right, with prominent Jewish writers leading the charge.

Leftist columnist Jonathan Chait’s assault is headlined America’s Leading Authoritarian Intellectual Is Working for Trump.[ New York Magazine, February 2, 2017] Weirdly, but typical of the Left, any opposition to immigration is labeled as “authoritarian” and “anti-democratic” — even though Anton is clearly doing his best to salvage the last hope for maintaining our institutions and social class-based politics in the face of the racialization of politics brought about by the Third World invasion. As Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban phrased it recently, commenting on the attitudes of the EU, “They have declared that the people constitute a danger to democracy.” [You will CRUSH the people’ Hungarian PM slams ‘GLOBALIST ELITE’ for open-door migration, By Charlie Bayliss, Express (UK), February 14, 2017]

Chait characterizes Anton’s comments on immigration as a claim that America is undergoing a “foreign invasion”—assuming his readers will blanch at such an outlandish thought:

What Anton’s essay did was to synthesize and intellectualize the right-wing case against democracy and marshal it on behalf of the Republican party presidential nominee. And now that nominee has won, and his administration has appropriately brought onboard the author of authoritarianism.

Similarly, Jessica Schulberg bridled at Anton’s defense of the America First Committee among other heresies:

A senior national security official in the Trump administration wrote under a pseudonym last year that Islam is an inherently violent religion that is “incompatible with the modern West,” defended the World War II-era America First Committee, which included anti-Semites, as “unfairly maligned,” and called diversity “a source of weakness, tension and disunion.”

Trump Aide Derided Islam, Immigration And Diversity, Embraced An Anti-Semitic Past, Huffington Post, February 8, 2017

These claims were gleaned from Anton’s earlier pseudonymous article Toward a Sensible, Coherent Trumpism Unz Review, March 10, 2016 ).

Typical of Leftist point-and splutter, Schulberg assumes her audience will be sufficiently triggered by the mere fact that Anton has uttered such heresies — no need to evaluate whether the facts support them. In fact, they do: Social science research, summarized by Frank Salter, shows that indeed diversity does create division and conflict. But, as Anton notes, “The sacredness of mass immigration is the mystic chord that unites America’s ruling and intellectual classes.”

And Anton’s point that “Islam is not a ‘religion of peace’; it’s a militant faith that exalts conversion by the sword and inspires thousands to acts of terror—and millions more to support and sympathize with terror” seems so obvious it’s not worth debating.

Most significantly, Anton argued that the America First Committee has been “unfairly maligned,” aiming to vindicate Trump’s slogan “America First.” Along with the Immigration Restriction Act of 1924 and refusing some Jewish refugees in the 1930s, the saga of the America First Committee is etched in many Jewish minds as the most egregious examples of anti-Semitism in American history. Schulberg is quite correct that some in the America First Committee, including Charles Lindbergh, emphasized Jewish involvement in the campaign for entering World War II (along with the British and the Roosevelt administration). But there is a very rich factual basis to Lindbergh’s assertion: there is no question that Jews used their substantial power in the media to push for war (see here, p. vii–xvi).

Bill Kristol set the tone for the neocons, linking Anton with that other bête noire of the establishment, Steve Bannon:

The Bannon-Anton wing of the Trump White House has a penchant for semi-conspiratorial analyses and semi-kooky prescriptions. … And for them, being responsible isn’t a virtue. Which is worrisome.

Kristol then went full argumentum ad Hitlerem, reacting favorably to Jonathan Chait’s piece:

It’s very heartening that Mike Anton is part of the Trump administration. He shows a clear understanding that immigration is the fundamental problem facing any attempt to resuscitate anything resembling traditional American political culture and institutions. And he understands that if drastic things are not done on the immigration front, traditional American political culture and institutions are indeed heading over a cliff. I assume this means, at least, that he will do his best to keep the Trump administration heading in the right direction on that most critical issue.

Despite my criticisms, I wish him well.

Kevin MacDonald [email him] is emeritus professor of psychology at California State University–Long Beach. His research has focused on developing evolutionary perspectives in developmental psychology, personality theory, Western culture, and ethnic relations (group evolutionary strategies). He edits and is a frequent contributor to The Occidental Observer and The Occidental Quarterly. For his website, click here .

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Good commentary! I too am glad that the author of The Flight 93 Election is on Donald Trump’s team. Like Dr. MacDonald, I doubt that assimilation is really the answer, as it affects the assimilating community as well, but if we can’t contain the invasion, the battle is lost anyway.

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    I doubt that assimilation is really the answer
     
    With the Muslim situation, it is US who must assimilate to them. We see it all happening everywhere in Europe. Women don't have a safe place to hang their hats anywhere in Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, it's all ruined for them. Interesting bedfellows, raping Muslims and Feminists. Still and all, feminists here and German women, Merkle included, childless and lonely, seem to get all giddy in the Muslim Male presence. They like em tall, dark and swarthy with a strong pimp hand. Welcoming Feminist Leftists are of the New Patriarchy.

    I wish to hear no complaints from them when their deed is done. Actually, I can finally tell them in public to shut the fuck up because under Islam, I get my male privilege back.
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    Obama left the federal government approximately $9,500,000,000,000 deeper in debt than it was when he took office eight years ago, according to data released by the U.S. Treasury.

    The increased debt incurred under Obama equals approximately $75,000 for every person in the United States who had a full-time job in December.

    That debt is far more debt than was accumulated by any previous president. It equals nearly twice as much as the $4,889,100,310,609.44 in additional debt that piled up during the eight years George W. Bush served as president.
  3. I believe Anton’s hope that America’s different races and ethnicities will magically come together, identifying with their social class rather than their racial/ethnic identities, is a pipe dream.

    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it’s not a “pipe dream”, it’s work.

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    No, it's the belief in unicorns and good fairies. It's never happened before in human history, and it will not happen in America.....Human nature is clannish and identitarian, because that has long been beneficial to an individual's survival.
    , @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Bizarre that the old Communist dream of "workers of the world uniting" has been resurrected by the Trump Right. (ie, those supporting individualistic business owner-centered capitalism over Samuel Francis/James Burnham's "managerial" (ie liberal) manager-centered capitalism.) In other words, the direct decendants of those who'd have personally stood at their own factory gates with a shotgun in times of labor unrest.

    I can't even tell who is "right" and who is "left" anymore.
  4. Well written, Mr. MacDonald. Muscular and clear.

    Would that they, those whom you cite who are offended by Anton’s writings, express themselves so forthrightly. Then we wouldn’t have so much to fear. Open dialogue would be the norm and real progress possible. As it is, with their compulsive prevaricating and pathological evasiveness we as a people can never get down to business and deal squarely with the issues before us.

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  5. KA says:

    Militant Islam is no different than militant Hinudism,Christianity,and Judaism . Some of them convert the enemies and force them into the tent Some of them relegate them to to the 2nd class or 3rd class citizen and maintain the separation. At the turn of the century or even before that probably at the turn of the 18th century the religious fervor were already visibly absent among Islamic countries These were the ossified corrupt but multi ethnic empires . European power emerged with ideas and muscle power Both were corrupted and imbued with religiosity They also created religious frictions in those countries where none existed at that particular point of time . Religion became a rallying cry for its own advancement in European context as well as in colonized worlds. Islamic countries generated its own set of ideologues enchanted,inspired ,or disgusted by western philosophy,politics, and market . Initially the former succeeded from Turkey to Indonesia from India to Egypt . When those forces became more Independent and did not remain just a card carrying junior member of the western club, the equation started unraveling . Islamist came to the fore in Egypt in Pakistan in Iran Sometime it was promoted as in Pakistan . Very soon Hindusim would turn away from Ghandhian to religiosity of RSS/BJP/Shiv Sena .
    While Islaimist had been kept at bay by the secular westernized forces – whether it was in Indonesia, Egypt,Tunisia, Turkey or Iran or even among pre Jinnah Muslim politics of India or Bhutto’s Pakistan – that was not the case of the religious extremist and fanatics in the American and Israeli political situations for over a century . They were embraced, allowed to dictate and influence polices These fanatics did not have to turn to violence Government was doing great job There was always a religious angle in every fights – whether bombing of Japan, or Vietnam war or fight against t Soviet or even the latest fight against Iraq . Democracy was thrown in because suddenly Democracy seemed to be a Christian idea because current concept of Democracy emerged in Western countries . Now the country has moved away from Bush era religiosity and has moved much more from Regan era religiosity and casting our eyes back we can say it has moved much farther beyond any redemption from the religiosity of Teddy Roosevelt, and has created panic among the evangelic.
    How to get them fired up in the service of the unraveling empire? Only one way that is to find an enemy It was outside the border before Now they are in side the border as well. Country is already divided and seems beyond repair when it comes to abortion, LGBT, contraception, sex before after during marriage school prayer, Sunday as resting day and the teaching of the evolution, and the literalism of Bible . Evangelical made peace with Zionism and the Zionism returned the favors with abandon . It is falling back on its core 1800 ideas- no color,no religion,no race,no language other than of it’s own .Once this is achieved we the evangelic can again start the conquest of the world like we did in 15th and 18 th and 19 th century . Will it work? Or will there be realignment of forces and will put paid to the careerist warmongers,evangelical ideas as well as to the empire’s one more attempt to raise its head ? Militant Islam is a much recent phenomena way after Judaism and Christianity had embraced all the horrors of fanaticism in its midst They just happened to own the better polemic, skilled administrative and the perfect delivery system .

    So why is this sudden focus on Judaism and Israel and Zionism? Islam is no longer enough . Because underlying the superficial understanding lies deeper one- Scofield Bible , Elevation of Rapture, or the redirection by James Parton ( The Atlantic ) or Pastor McDonald or William Eugene Blackstone have failed them skewered them and have taken them to the cleaners So have the novel EXODUS and the LEFT BEHIND series . But before one get there ,they have to peel away unnecessary distraction with ease and present them as big success to earn the trust confidence and the “soft power ‘ of persuasion.

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    I left my protestant church when the pastor was demonizing the president of Iran, and angelizing (new word) Israel. Talking the BS that we are either blessed or cursed according to our support for Israhell. No way! We are blessed for your actions, I believe. Evangelicals are so blind to the sayings of their bibles, except the satanic inspired and useless Scofield Bible. I now read the New Testament in Greek, (www.biblehub.com). Tired of lies and sold out preachers preaching lies, and propaganda. No where in the NT you find mention of 'blessing Israel". Such a lie! We are to live in peace with our neighbors.
    I have encountered people from others believes, and believe me, Muslims are the most fanatics, dislikable and ferocious enemies of Christianity; I also debated with Jews who fail to tell me why they are supposedly Semites. I once asked a Jew who were the Semites that I was anti them? He failed to answer! I am not afraid to confront whom ever calls me anti this, and anti that.

    I told my neighbor to stop coward-izing in front of any one who called him racist, anti this or that, etc. What the heck, people, when they call you anti this, they are making you defend something they are accusing you of; and they know it. So As I answered someone one day, "Yes so what?" When you answer that way, they accusers are stunt, and don't know how to react, because they are used to prick you with it, and expect you to coward and apologize even if the accusation is not true.
  6. The problem with incessant dissimulation as practiced by Clinton and the NeoCons is that at some point in great affairs straight talk is needed. But one party, having a history only of lying, is not believed even when (realizing that things have begun to spiral out of control) they, as a last resort, tell the truth. By then it is too late, witness Barbara Tuchman’s “The Guns of August”.

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  7. Sean says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/23/paddy-power-betfair-blames-donald-trump-zlatan-ibrahimovic-profits-dip

    A bookmaker comparable to Ladbrokes in Britain actually paid out on Trump losing

    Anton simply said the phrase America First was not copyrighted by evil and thus impermissible as Trump’s slogan. Not was he in any way that I can see alleging a la Pat Buchanan (who Trump ran against in a third party primary remember) that the WW2 movement of the same name was correct and the US should have stayed out of WW2. America had to do it, because Germany couldn’t be allowed to gain the basis for disputing world supremacy with the US.

    World war 1 with Jews on both sides and no less in Germany than elsewhere, had already been fought by almost exactly the same alliances of states, before WW2. One or two , it made no difference whether Germany was no more or less democratic that most of it’s European opponents (Germany in WW1 certainly didn’t rule the vast colonial possessions with hundreds of millions of non whites that its opponents had, and still had during WW2). No, Germany wasn’t going to be allowed to do acheive superpower status and pose a potential future threat to world champion America. Whether it was Nazi or something like a parliamentary democracy made not the slightest difference. States interact like black boxes as John Mearsheimer says, the nature of the regieme makes no difference.. If the US had turned KKK in the thirties it would have still fought Nazi Germany in the 40s. Really.

    Trump understands public taste and the mechanics of branding. He sensed the underlining sea change in folk psychology, one that he could articulate and corner the market in.

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  8. FKA Max says: • Website

    associating Donald Trump with the Alt Right and Professor MacDonald was deemed highly ineffectual by the Clinton camp, since the Alt Right have been so effectual in supplying the Trump camp with talking points, that resonate with the historic American people and electorate

    http://www.unz.com/article/claremonts-codevilla-on-the-coming-revolution-americans-will-be-nostalgic-for-donald-trumps-moderation/#comment-1614314

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    ”50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.” – http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

    A similar foolishness Republicans/Conservatives peddle/believe, is around abortion and contraception. Populist Republicans/Trumpists/The Catholic Bannon-Milo Crew want to put a stop to immigration, because they, rightly, say, that Democrats use immigration to import more Democrat voters into the country; but then they turn around and oppose Planned Parenthood and want to ban abortion, etc., when high birth rates among African-Americans and Latino-Americans, who overwhelmingly vote Democrat, has the exact same effect; an increase in the number of Democrat voters. Their policy is probably even worse and more dysgenic, because lower IQ persons usually have more children on average, if they are not provided or cannot afford contraceptives.

    Return on Investment: A Fuller Assessment
    of the Benefits and Cost Savings of the US
    Publicly Funded Family Planning Program

    ”This investment resulted in net government savings of $13.6 billion
    in 2010, or $7.09 for every public dollar spent.”

    https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/journals/MQ-Frost_1468-0009.12080.pdf

    Fools, indeed.

    http://www.unz.com/rpaul/will-congress-stop-forcing-pro-life-americans-to-subsidize-abortion/#comment-1768692

    The more Trump surrounds himself with conservatives and the less with Alt Righters, the higher the probability his presidency will be a failure.

    I covered this point in my earlier op ed piece, A Trump Attack On Planned Parenthood Would Be Strategic Madness.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/refugees-demand-to-be-ruled-by-literally-hitler/#comment-1744912

    The Alt Right and its ideas will continue on long after Donald Trump has left office. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy based on science and common sense ( “common sense conservatism” how he referred to it himself during the campaign) he will have to adopt reality-based Alt Right ideas/policies and employ (more) Alt Right personnel and advisors.

    Bannon on the evidence is actually a civic nationalist who has specifically denounced racism and, if anything, is showing troubling signs of moving towards the “DemsRRealRacist”- style talking points which led Conservatism Inc. to disaster.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1673513

    Margaret Sanger Never Said She Wanted to “Exterminate Blacks”

    Hear about the birth control movement from an Alt-Right perspective.

    I personally believe, after much research, that the biggest threat to the sovereignty of the United States comes from the Vatican/Roman Catholicism, whereas the biggest threat to Europe comes from Mecca/Islam. [...] Jeb Bush’s conversion to Roman Catholicism is a perfect example of what Conservatism Inc. is really about

    http://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1624652

    Why is the American press grossly under reporting on the most significant issues of our time, i.e.: the relationship between the pope’s demand for open U.S. borders and the fact that 90% of immigrants are Roman Catholics;

    http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/#comment-1757277

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    Following below, an excerpt from a great column by Hunter Wallace aka Brad Griffin [ http://www.unz.com/author/brad-griffin/ ], who has been one of the most prolific and insightful writers on the Alt Right in the last couple of months. Thanks very much for featuring him and Professor MacDonald on the Unz Review!

    The most Righteous one of them all, in my opinion, is Mr. Ron Unz.

    He published Professor MacDonald twice before the election. That takes guts!
     

    - http://www.unz.com/pgottfried/yes-virginia-dare-there-are-righteous-jews-for-trump/#comment-1642432

    This has never been about Left/Liberals/Democrats versus Right/Conservatives/Republicans, in my opinion; this struggle always has been and will continue to be about the Alt Right versus the Establishment.


    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.
    [...]
    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    Cuckservatives: CPAC Chairman Condemns The Alt-Right


    MILO is a mainstream conservative. He works within the conservative movement. He was invited to be the keynote speaker at CPAC. He has a platform at Breitbart. All the Dangerous Faggot ever did to earn the “Alt-Right” label was write a single article about us that was somewhat objective. He got some important things wrong about his subject, but that article wasn’t the usual breathless hysteria. That was his unforgivable crime that has earned him so much ill will from the media.

    We’re the real Alt-Right. I’ve never been to CPAC. I have no interest in going there either. I’m not a conservative. I don’t want to be identified with “conservatism” which I associate with pearl-clutching weaklings like Cuck David French.
     

    - http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/02/22/cuckservatives-cpac-chairman-condemns-the-alt-right/

    How Alexis de Tocqueville predicted the alt-right — almost 200 years ago
    There is a very clear boundary between prescribed virtue and proscribed vice. Indeed, the health and safety police need that boundary to police, even if they have to prove that it keeps creeping forward with ever smaller steps. Inside the boundary, life is kept rigorously rational, scripted, risk-averse, sanitized, clean, and secure. But there will always be a misfit remnant beyond the gates, impulsive, unscripted, risk-begging, filthy, coarse, and dangerous.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is the alt-right.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/how-dumb-do-we-have-to-be-to-let-the-clintons-win-the-white-house-twice-in-one-lifetime-over-sexual-harassment/#comment-1610075
  9. KA says:

    Why does we allow breaking of laws by the Zionist and allow them to get to the position from where they would continue to do same harm without even one relevant objection?
    Look at the charade at the section of the ambassador to Israel

    “apologies to Senator Al Franken and to the head of the Anti Defamation League, for calling them “morons“, were accepted by them; while former Senator Joe Lieberman said he had slept at Friedman’s house and he’s a great guy –

    Cory Booker seemed on the verge of tears when quoting Friedman’s use of the word “kapos” to describe critics, and said that a Holocaust survivor in New Jersey wants his apology.

    the warm reception he got from Senator Rand Paul, the one Republican who might have broken ranks in the vote, and the strong identification that Democratic Senator Ben Cardin expressed with Friedman, as Zionists. –

    Friedman said he was for the two-state solution, if only the Palestinians would finally accept the existence of Israel, which they don’t want to do; –

    Marco Rubio took Friedman’s side, vociferously, and attacked J Street, saying it smears its opponents. –

    He promised Indiana’s Rob Portman that he would do his utmost to fight BDS, the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/exciting-disruptions-friedman/#sthash.bHIxxe9d.dpuf

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    • Replies: @El Dato

    Why does we allow breaking of laws by the Zionist and allow them to get to the position from where they would continue to do same harm without even one relevant objection?

     

    1) Money power (both carrot and stick)
    2) Mob power (including threat of destruction via media smear campaigns)
    3) Juicy dossiers compiled by surveillance agencies to be mentioned en passant during negotiations
    4) Physical violence if needed

    If you can destroy someone's social, commercial or politicial prospects, you own him.

    Any further questions?
  10. Dan Hayes says:

    Three cheers for MacDonald, Anton and Ron Unz (for courageously providing interesting, important and controversial perspectives largely excluded from the American Mainstream Media).

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  11. El Dato says:

    Bill Kristol critizing someone for not bedding lady virtue of responsibility?

    Will no-one rid me of this obnoxious, irresponsible, no-skin-in-the-game talking head?

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    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?
  12. El Dato says:
    @KA
    Why does we allow breaking of laws by the Zionist and allow them to get to the position from where they would continue to do same harm without even one relevant objection?
    Look at the charade at the section of the ambassador to Israel


    “apologies to Senator Al Franken and to the head of the Anti Defamation League, for calling them “morons“, were accepted by them; while former Senator Joe Lieberman said he had slept at Friedman’s house and he’s a great guy –

    Cory Booker seemed on the verge of tears when quoting Friedman’s use of the word “kapos” to describe critics, and said that a Holocaust survivor in New Jersey wants his apology.

    the warm reception he got from Senator Rand Paul, the one Republican who might have broken ranks in the vote, and the strong identification that Democratic Senator Ben Cardin expressed with Friedman, as Zionists. –

    Friedman said he was for the two-state solution, if only the Palestinians would finally accept the existence of Israel, which they don’t want to do; –

    Marco Rubio took Friedman’s side, vociferously, and attacked J Street, saying it smears its opponents. –

    He promised Indiana’s Rob Portman that he would do his utmost to fight BDS, the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/exciting-disruptions-friedman/#sthash.bHIxxe9d.dpuf”

    Why does we allow breaking of laws by the Zionist and allow them to get to the position from where they would continue to do same harm without even one relevant objection?

    1) Money power (both carrot and stick)
    2) Mob power (including threat of destruction via media smear campaigns)
    3) Juicy dossiers compiled by surveillance agencies to be mentioned en passant during negotiations
    4) Physical violence if needed

    If you can destroy someone’s social, commercial or politicial prospects, you own him.

    Any further questions?

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  13. Wally says:
    @D. K.
    This is Jonathan Chait's new book, idolizing President Obama and his eight-year reign:

    https://www.amazon.com/Audacity-Barack-Critics-Created-Prevail/dp/0062426974/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487311844&sr=8-2&keywords=barack+obama+audacity

    Obama left the federal government approximately $9,500,000,000,000 deeper in debt than it was when he took office eight years ago, according to data released by the U.S. Treasury.

    The increased debt incurred under Obama equals approximately $75,000 for every person in the United States who had a full-time job in December.

    That debt is far more debt than was accumulated by any previous president. It equals nearly twice as much as the $4,889,100,310,609.44 in additional debt that piled up during the eight years George W. Bush served as president.

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  14. jivilov says:

    It’s amazing that such an unapologetic proponent of Western Civ is still teaching at a US university. While not agreeing with everything he says (actually since Western gals don’t wanna haul ashes why not hook up with Asians? they’re sharp and conservative) I’d say he’s definitely right on about the Establishment and its attitude towards the “racist, sexist, homophobic” etc. white working class.

    Well done sir and good luck!

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  15. berserker says:

    For all those living in the fantasy land of multiculturalism, here is an exercise: take India, a so-called country rich in diversity. Take people from a state from the North and move them by the millions to one in the South. Please tell me what you expect will happen. And these are people belonging to a common ancient civilization, far closer in norms than a Somali is to someone living in Minnesota.

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    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Try this for the size: India is like Europe (don't laugh just yet) in that Hindus are the Christians, Jains are the Jews (to see the similarities compare diamond trade, media ownership, banking etc.) and the states (nations if you will) are divided along the linguistic lines (all but four of the languages emanated from Sanskrit) and not unlike Europe, it would not be difficult to identify Indians in a crowd giving the sense that they are part of the same race (save the four southern states which can be said to be the Estonians, Hungarians, Finns & Basques of India). Now more to the point as to how would it all pan out if Punjabis (Italians) were to move into Bengal (England) enmass for the diversity of India... Hard to say, for it has never happened before!
  16. Sam J. says:

    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” – Henry David Thoreau

    It always been the Jews. Whether they are the instigators of our decline is irrelevant. They are the root.

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    • Replies: @in the middle
    The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world. I met and befriended a great Judean from Jerusalem in California, great and friendly guy. He looked like Iraqi. Then later on I met a Judean who came from South Africa, and looked like the demon twins in the movie Matrix, the ones with white hair, and transparent skin. He was evil and racist big time! So my point is that as any other group, they are different in evilness. Whoever you call the Jews as the root, could be categorized in a special group. I believe and history attest to it, that most of the Judeans, and Talmudist are kazharians and Europeans who converted to the Talmudic religion in past centuries. Don't believe me?



    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

    Therefore, those so called Jews, are mostly the converted ones, who became Two fold sons of Gehenna, meaning destruction, burning, death. Thus enemies of mankind.
  17. Miro23 says:

    An interesting article describing Trump’s situation as US President, and it’s confirmed in this video of his 2/16/17 Press Conference:

    He’s the elected President but faces a totally hostile MSM without a friend in sight. In other words the MSM don’t represent the public, they represent the Plutocracy/Deep State/Neo-cons and their Cultural Marxist allies and they want Trump out.

    The good news is that whatever Trump does they are going to try to pull him down, so he’s got nothing to lose, making a straightforward fight which probably suits him better.

    “America First” – is never going to happen with them so at some point Trump has to use his Democratic mandate to go after key figures in the Deep State and get Special Interests (AIPAC and all the rest of them) out of the administration and politics.

    So probably, one way or another, the Swamp is going to be drained, and paradoxically the Deep State and Special Interests would do better taking the “controlled exit” offered by Trump rather doubling down on their “knock out Anglo America” project but it looks like they are too intoxicated with their power to do that – take another look at the “press corps” in the video.

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    • Replies: @na
    I don't think Trump is the president you are looking for.
    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the treasury. This part of Trump's agenda aimed at dismantling consumer protections so that banks can shift more risk onto consumers. It will cost people money so banks can make more profit.
    He claims to have been for the working class, but then chooses a retail executive for labor secretary. Retail jobs being the example of the type of jobs we don't want. Low-paying, few hours, poor benefits.(Part of the policy that resulted in that appointment is to dismantle the fiduciary rule which gives more freedom to financial institutions to deliberately cost you money in order to enrich themselves.)
    Then when he appoints the head of the FCC, the guy takes steps to make more money for cable and cell phone companies at the expense of the consumer. Instead of having freedom to access any web content as we see fit, we will end up paying a la carte like a cable subscription. Then if Time Warner decides they don't want you visiting unz.com - you should be using their news outlet - they can slow down the connection unless you or the content provider pay a premium price for access if they even decide to offer it.


    I got more into policy than I intended to. But my original point was going to be that if Trump's raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don't like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then its a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.

    , @in the middle
    What is needed greatly is for those who support President Trump, to man up, and stand the ground, without our support, the enemy of America is wining, in the sense that they are rabidly attacking our President. I am on vacations in Mexico and people attack my President Trump, and I told them to butt out, and fix their problems first, before bad mouthing Trump. Obviously I saw another bunch of Americans with sings saying 'I voted for Clinton". In fear. So here it is. Man up and stand your ground; yes, its not easy, and as Anthony Quinn said "If hard things were done easily, ANY body could do them", or something like that. I do have family who voted for Trump but are afraid to say it. The radical left is in a war path, and YOU who voted and support Trump are the enemy. So surrender or fight, can't stand in the middle, you will be attacked from both sides. Take a side and stand, and once standing, stand.

    "I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it, but I found no one. Ezekiel 22:30
  18. Agent76 says:

    Feb 5, 2017 Trump’s New World Order

    The new boss is starting to look a bit like the old bosses…

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  19. kek says:

    Word to the author, never begin an article that cites their reasoning based on experts who have proven to be totally inept. This is like a murder defense attorney choosing a murderer as their lead witness.

    Throw this whole Leftists wet dream “impeachment fake news” crap into the trash pit along with the “russians hacked the election” nonsense.

    http://news.ladbrokes.com/politics/american-politics/the-51-shot-which-could-be-the-best-bet-of-the-us-election.html

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  20. Svigor says:

    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it’s not a “pipe dream”, it’s work.

    Does it? Tumbling to one’s own interests has never struck me as all that difficult.

    Militant Islam is no different than militant Hinudism,Christianity,and Judaism.

    That’s like saying Nazi or commie mass murderers are no different from Buddhist mass murderers, or Black murderers are no different from White murderers. It’s a dodge.

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    • Replies: @KA
    That’s like saying Nazi or commie mass murderers are no different from Buddhist mass murderers, or Black murderers are no different from White murderers. It’s a dodge.

    When Buddhist murderers murder Kachin resident, and later start killing Muslims or the Buddhist start killing eastern and northern Sinhalese resident before turning on Mulsim residnts or when Thai Buddhist with military whip up tension and start assassination in Muslim areas ( way before southern part of Thalind got engulfed in religious violence ) , you get a pattern -they may or may not be inspired by same theological political economic factors It doesn't make them ISIS like mass murderers for public consumption ( pictorially media wise and politically ) but that is because Muslim inhabit a larger land mass than the Buddhist does .If those Buddhist were living as a majority in Kenya , you would be hearing Kenyans tearing the other local apart . This is one explanation The otehr explanation is the freaking Islamic fundamentalism is 80 % creation of Anglo American Christianity .
    Another thoughts for you to pursue , if Rwanda were muslims, we would be blaming Islam for the genocide not the economic political contexts . If China were Muslims we would be blaming Islam for the frictions between US and China or bewteen China and Japan .

    , @Wally
    What "Nazi mass murderers"?

    Proof required. Physical evidence required. Excavation of alleged enormous mass graves with contents shown required. Scientifically possible 'gas chambers' required.

    Oh well then.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
  21. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    A striking aspect of your work, Dr. MacDonald, is you have never (to my knowledge) written a bit on White self-deception, and your own.

    They must be there too, or not? Why not write a book on White psychological inferiority (as compared to some other peoples) and self-deception?

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    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Professor MacDonald has done precisely that. He spent the last several years mainly focusing on pathological altruism in Northern Europeans:

    Kevin MacDonald - Evolutionary & Genetic Basis for Pathological Altruism - Hour 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FyMrWbkL7Q

    Published on May 29, 2015

    [...] In the first hour, Kevin outlines his recent work, which explores theories of a genetic basis for altruism and the lack of ethnic awareness or kinship oriented nepotism. He explains recent scientific studies that are finding there is perhaps a genetic or evolutionary reason for the kind of pathological altruism found in Northern Europe. [...]

    Prof. Kevin B. Macdonald - The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWfPWdbPC8

    Published on Apr 20, 2015

    On the 18th of April, 2015, Logik Förlag in cooperation with Counter-Currents Publishing hosted a number of lectures and a book release in the city of Stockholm.

    This particular lecture was held by Kevin B. Macdonald, professor of Psychology at California State University-Long Beach, and the subject is "The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession".
    , @in the middle
    I believe that the only whites with inferiority complex are a very few who hardly read and write or addicted to the MSN falsehood's . I also can affirm that whites are the only ones who do not display psychological inferiority as far as the ones I work with in the USAF. White Kids from all over the USA so normal that looks weird, compared with several minorities who some how with few exceptions display an uncommon disorientation while working with other minorities, but who feel at ease working with Euro-Americans. Lets face it, the only whites who are psychological messed up are the ones who faithfully watch the news in the regular CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc, whose brain is beyond redemption. I almost fell into the MSN grip. Thank God for the internet! Now I can read presstv, RT, veteranstoday, and this UNZ! So I don't even have a TV anymore, garbage, brain washing bunch that they are, keeping the older generation as robots reacting to their very venom spewed daily via TV.
  22. @Diversity Heretic
    Good commentary! I too am glad that the author of The Flight 93 Election is on Donald Trump's team. Like Dr. MacDonald, I doubt that assimilation is really the answer, as it affects the assimilating community as well, but if we can't contain the invasion, the battle is lost anyway.

    I doubt that assimilation is really the answer

    With the Muslim situation, it is US who must assimilate to them. We see it all happening everywhere in Europe. Women don’t have a safe place to hang their hats anywhere in Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, it’s all ruined for them. Interesting bedfellows, raping Muslims and Feminists. Still and all, feminists here and German women, Merkle included, childless and lonely, seem to get all giddy in the Muslim Male presence. They like em tall, dark and swarthy with a strong pimp hand. Welcoming Feminist Leftists are of the New Patriarchy.

    I wish to hear no complaints from them when their deed is done. Actually, I can finally tell them in public to shut the fuck up because under Islam, I get my male privilege back.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Thanks for your comment. I've often thought that assimilation works both ways, particularly when mass immigration is involved. The immigrants change to adapt to the new environment, but the existing culture and people have to change to adapt to the immigrants, often in ways that are to the very substantial disadvantage of the existing culture. Your example of "assimilation" of Muslims in Europe (and probably soon in the U.S.) is an illustration of precisely this (highly undesirable) phenomenon.
  23. KA says:
    @Svigor

    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it’s not a “pipe dream”, it’s work.
     
    Does it? Tumbling to one's own interests has never struck me as all that difficult.

    Militant Islam is no different than militant Hinudism,Christianity,and Judaism.
     
    That's like saying Nazi or commie mass murderers are no different from Buddhist mass murderers, or Black murderers are no different from White murderers. It's a dodge.

    That’s like saying Nazi or commie mass murderers are no different from Buddhist mass murderers, or Black murderers are no different from White murderers. It’s a dodge.

    When Buddhist murderers murder Kachin resident, and later start killing Muslims or the Buddhist start killing eastern and northern Sinhalese resident before turning on Mulsim residnts or when Thai Buddhist with military whip up tension and start assassination in Muslim areas ( way before southern part of Thalind got engulfed in religious violence ) , you get a pattern -they may or may not be inspired by same theological political economic factors It doesn’t make them ISIS like mass murderers for public consumption ( pictorially media wise and politically ) but that is because Muslim inhabit a larger land mass than the Buddhist does .If those Buddhist were living as a majority in Kenya , you would be hearing Kenyans tearing the other local apart . This is one explanation The otehr explanation is the freaking Islamic fundamentalism is 80 % creation of Anglo American Christianity .
    Another thoughts for you to pursue , if Rwanda were muslims, we would be blaming Islam for the genocide not the economic political contexts . If China were Muslims we would be blaming Islam for the frictions between US and China or bewteen China and Japan .

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  24. FKA Max says:
    @Anonymous
    A striking aspect of your work, Dr. MacDonald, is you have never (to my knowledge) written a bit on White self-deception, and your own.

    They must be there too, or not? Why not write a book on White psychological inferiority (as compared to some other peoples) and self-deception?

    Professor MacDonald has done precisely that. He spent the last several years mainly focusing on pathological altruism in Northern Europeans:

    Kevin MacDonald – Evolutionary & Genetic Basis for Pathological Altruism – Hour 1

    Published on May 29, 2015

    [...] In the first hour, Kevin outlines his recent work, which explores theories of a genetic basis for altruism and the lack of ethnic awareness or kinship oriented nepotism. He explains recent scientific studies that are finding there is perhaps a genetic or evolutionary reason for the kind of pathological altruism found in Northern Europe. [...]

    Prof. Kevin B. Macdonald – The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession

    Published on Apr 20, 2015

    On the 18th of April, 2015, Logik Förlag in cooperation with Counter-Currents Publishing hosted a number of lectures and a book release in the city of Stockholm.

    This particular lecture was held by Kevin B. Macdonald, professor of Psychology at California State University-Long Beach, and the subject is “The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession”.

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    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Professor MacDonald's research is confirmed by two indexes:

    Bloomberg Innovation Index

    Nordic nations dominate the top 15, while South Korea reigns supreme and Russia is dealt a huge blow

    There’s something about those Nordic countries.

    In the battle of ideas, Sweden climbed to No. 2 and Finland cracked into the top five of the 2017 Bloomberg Innovation Index, which scores economies using factors including research and development spending and the concentration of high-tech public companies.
    [...]
    The Swedes themselves promote an atmosphere of great personal ambition — unlike some European neighbors that emphasize the collective — and that’s a boon to innovation, he said.

    “In the culture, people are super individualistic — this means that people have ideas and are very interested in pursuing them in this way in order to become wealthy,” said Henrekson.
     
    - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-17/sweden-gains-south-korea-reigns-as-world-s-most-innovative-economies

    The following ranking of the Bloomberg Innovation Index is from 2015, and countries rise or fall within the ranking from year to year, but the dominance of the historically majority Protestant nations with Northern European-derived populations in the Top 20 is very consistent:

    It is actually eleven (11) historically majority Protestant/Northern European nations in the Top 20; 55% of the list.

    Germany(3rd), Finland(4th), USA(6th), Sweden(7th), UK(10th), Denmark(11th), Canada(12th), Australia(13th), Norway(15th), New Zealand(18th), Netherlands(20th).

    I did not include Switzerland(16th) — even though Switzerland, historically, has been almost 50% Protestant, in particular the innovative cities were predominantly Protestant — because it is not really Northern European
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762852

    Corruption Perceptions Index

    So I think it’s safe to say that Protestantism is the dominant religious expression of the Anglo-Germanic peoples, and only the Anglo-Germanic peoples. And, getting back to the original northern rebellion against southern corruption, the Anglo-Germanic nations remain the gold standard in honesty and transparency.

    Here are top-ranked nations in the 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, with the nations with a historic Protestant majority marked with a (P):

    1. Denmark (P)
    2. Finland (P)
    3. Sweden (P)
    4. New Zealand (P)
    5. Netherlands (P)
    5. Norway (P)
    7. Switzerland (P)
    8. Singapore
    9. Canada (P)
    10. Germany (P)
    10. Luxembourg
    10. United Kingdom (P)
    13. Australia (P)
    13. Iceland (P)
    15. Belgium
    16. Austria
    16. United States (P)
    18. Ireland

    All 17 Anglo-Germanic nations finish in the top 18, with only the honourary Protestants of Singapore breaking their monopoly
     
    - https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/some-very-random-thoughts-on-the-reformation/#comment-130184

    Visualizing Values Mismatch in the European Union
    [...]
    EUROPE’S NORTH-SOUTH DIVIDE—A STUBBORN CHASM

    German sociologist Max Weber. The latter had suggested that Protestant countries in Northern Europe outperformed the rest of the continent because of their superior work ethic, because they were thriftier and because they possessed more effective social capital, that is to say the efficacy of social networks.
    [...]
    Cognitive emotion regulation and psychopathology across cultures: A comparison between six European countries

    overall northern European countries (Germany and Netherlands) made less use of strategies such as rumination, catastrophizing, and other-blame, when compared to southern and eastern European countries (Spain, Italy, Portugal, and Hungary).
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-did-the-eu-become-europhobic/#comment-1707368
  25. Svigor says:

    Mao, I misread your comment. I just noticed that you were talking about a societal-level effort, not an individual one. True, that’s a bigger ask. The trouble is the elite, they’re all traitors, cowards, cucks, etc. The way through it is to organize a plutocratic clique who will fund a sustained mass media counter-revolution.

    It won’t be hard to gather followers, given that.

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  26. @Jim Christian

    I doubt that assimilation is really the answer
     
    With the Muslim situation, it is US who must assimilate to them. We see it all happening everywhere in Europe. Women don't have a safe place to hang their hats anywhere in Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, it's all ruined for them. Interesting bedfellows, raping Muslims and Feminists. Still and all, feminists here and German women, Merkle included, childless and lonely, seem to get all giddy in the Muslim Male presence. They like em tall, dark and swarthy with a strong pimp hand. Welcoming Feminist Leftists are of the New Patriarchy.

    I wish to hear no complaints from them when their deed is done. Actually, I can finally tell them in public to shut the fuck up because under Islam, I get my male privilege back.

    Thanks for your comment. I’ve often thought that assimilation works both ways, particularly when mass immigration is involved. The immigrants change to adapt to the new environment, but the existing culture and people have to change to adapt to the immigrants, often in ways that are to the very substantial disadvantage of the existing culture. Your example of “assimilation” of Muslims in Europe (and probably soon in the U.S.) is an illustration of precisely this (highly undesirable) phenomenon.

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Well, you fight back or surrender. Pick one. Because once they're here and become neighborhoods of no-go, it would take the 81st Airborne to clean them out. But I figure since we let them in, allow them to cow our citizens, refuse to report their crimes, rapes and general nuisances, we're certainly not going to fight them once they're established. That's the history in Europe. In ant given scenario where they become even the slightest bit the majority, they make life intolerable. If individuals aren't allowed to take their own defense, the government sure as Hell will not.
  27. Svigor says:

    KA, my point was that it’s the rates that are concerning; Blacks produce many more violent criminals per capita than Whites, Muslims produce many more violent and troublesome people per capita than Westerners.

    if Rwanda were muslims, we would be blaming Islam for the genocide not the economic political contexts .

    I blame Blacks for the Rwandan genocide. Specifically, the Hutus.

    Your “ifs” aren’t all that persuasive. Personally, I use Muslim as shorthand for SWANA/MENA populations. They’re the most troublesome people on Earth, and yes, I put Jews into that category.

    We can talk all day about how justified Muslims are. If that was all there was to it, Europeans would be slaughtering their own political class in the hundreds of thousands. God knows they’d be justified.

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    • Replies: @KA
    Your troublesome question should start at home
    It is very very domestic in origin
    Very original US project
    This is why Chechnya that was sandbagged by US double dealing - one for Yeltsin the other was support to the terrorist
    It is like supporting IS and killing IS

    May be I will add Libya as well and Iraq
    If A always happens after B is carried out
    , may be you should look at B

  28. pyrrhus says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    I believe Anton’s hope that America’s different races and ethnicities will magically come together, identifying with their social class rather than their racial/ethnic identities, is a pipe dream.
     
    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it's not a "pipe dream", it's work.

    No, it’s the belief in unicorns and good fairies. It’s never happened before in human history, and it will not happen in America…..Human nature is clannish and identitarian, because that has long been beneficial to an individual’s survival.

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    Human nature is such that a human mind can be molded into pretty much anything. Clannishness comes natural, yes, but everything is a subject to social conditioning. Things that can be assumed beneficial to an individual often get tabooed and become rare. Think of rape, for example.

    And of course it has happened in human history. For example, emergence of universal proselytizing religions (Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam) - wasn't it, in part, an attempt to overcome clannishness?
  29. KA says:
    @Svigor
    KA, my point was that it's the rates that are concerning; Blacks produce many more violent criminals per capita than Whites, Muslims produce many more violent and troublesome people per capita than Westerners.

    if Rwanda were muslims, we would be blaming Islam for the genocide not the economic political contexts .
     
    I blame Blacks for the Rwandan genocide. Specifically, the Hutus.

    Your "ifs" aren't all that persuasive. Personally, I use Muslim as shorthand for SWANA/MENA populations. They're the most troublesome people on Earth, and yes, I put Jews into that category.

    We can talk all day about how justified Muslims are. If that was all there was to it, Europeans would be slaughtering their own political class in the hundreds of thousands. God knows they'd be justified.

    Your troublesome question should start at home
    It is very very domestic in origin
    Very original US project
    This is why Chechnya that was sandbagged by US double dealing – one for Yeltsin the other was support to the terrorist
    It is like supporting IS and killing IS

    May be I will add Libya as well and Iraq
    If A always happens after B is carried out
    , may be you should look at B

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  30. Bookies are rubbish at politics. Ignore them. The odds follow the weight of cash being slung at them. The larger bets are by wealthy people (or organisations), usually with a vested interest in the political result, i.e. in BookieLand, they have more and larger votes than us plebs.
    It’s just another version of padding the polling results in the press, to demoralise the rebels.
    Ladbrokes had Brexit at 11/8 (i.e 57.9% probability of Remaining in EU), betting on Remain yielded 4/7.
    Paddy Power offered 13/8 (61.9% chance we were to stay in), and a paltry 4/9 on the converse.

    Of course, knowing that they tend to “get it wrong” on politics (they don’t, they’re not idiots; it’s just that they’re not allowed to refuse to part fools or knaves from their money, that’s their job), there are those of us who can consequently afford the odd Imperial pint glass (with a handle) of Hambledon Classic Cuvée on the day the results come out.

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  31. @pyrrhus
    No, it's the belief in unicorns and good fairies. It's never happened before in human history, and it will not happen in America.....Human nature is clannish and identitarian, because that has long been beneficial to an individual's survival.

    Human nature is such that a human mind can be molded into pretty much anything. Clannishness comes natural, yes, but everything is a subject to social conditioning. Things that can be assumed beneficial to an individual often get tabooed and become rare. Think of rape, for example.

    And of course it has happened in human history. For example, emergence of universal proselytizing religions (Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam) – wasn’t it, in part, an attempt to overcome clannishness?

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    Regarding Mao's blank slate narrative.

    MAO: "A human mind can be molded into pretty much anything."
     
    The Left's blank slate narrative is exactly what Professor Kevin MacDonald debunks.

    TRS: "I still highly recommend you read the work of Kevin MacDonald for the fuller picture. Two of the biggest lies of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries are that human beings are born as a blank slate, where our behaviors are merely a product of our social environment, and that race doesn't exist."
    therightstuff.biz/2015/09/11/draft-the-decline-of-darwinism-2/
     
  32. Wally says: • Website
    @Svigor

    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it’s not a “pipe dream”, it’s work.
     
    Does it? Tumbling to one's own interests has never struck me as all that difficult.

    Militant Islam is no different than militant Hinudism,Christianity,and Judaism.
     
    That's like saying Nazi or commie mass murderers are no different from Buddhist mass murderers, or Black murderers are no different from White murderers. It's a dodge.

    What “Nazi mass murderers”?

    Proof required. Physical evidence required. Excavation of alleged enormous mass graves with contents shown required. Scientifically possible ‘gas chambers’ required.

    Oh well then.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  33. @Mao Cheng Ji
    Human nature is such that a human mind can be molded into pretty much anything. Clannishness comes natural, yes, but everything is a subject to social conditioning. Things that can be assumed beneficial to an individual often get tabooed and become rare. Think of rape, for example.

    And of course it has happened in human history. For example, emergence of universal proselytizing religions (Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam) - wasn't it, in part, an attempt to overcome clannishness?

    Regarding Mao’s blank slate narrative.

    MAO: “A human mind can be molded into pretty much anything.”

    The Left’s blank slate narrative is exactly what Professor Kevin MacDonald debunks.

    TRS: “I still highly recommend you read the work of Kevin MacDonald for the fuller picture. Two of the biggest lies of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries are that human beings are born as a blank slate, where our behaviors are merely a product of our social environment, and that race doesn’t exist.”
    therightstuff.biz/2015/09/11/draft-the-decline-of-darwinism-2/

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    The Left’s blank slate narrative is exactly what Professor Kevin MacDonald debunks.
     
    Non-sequitur: who said anything about the 'blank slate'? Are you denying the effects of social conditioning? Don't be silly.
  34. na says:
    @Miro23
    An interesting article describing Trump's situation as US President, and it's confirmed in this video of his 2/16/17 Press Conference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FRUM-AK9k

    He's the elected President but faces a totally hostile MSM without a friend in sight. In other words the MSM don't represent the public, they represent the Plutocracy/Deep State/Neo-cons and their Cultural Marxist allies and they want Trump out.

    The good news is that whatever Trump does they are going to try to pull him down, so he's got nothing to lose, making a straightforward fight which probably suits him better.

    "America First" - is never going to happen with them so at some point Trump has to use his Democratic mandate to go after key figures in the Deep State and get Special Interests (AIPAC and all the rest of them) out of the administration and politics.

    So probably, one way or another, the Swamp is going to be drained, and paradoxically the Deep State and Special Interests would do better taking the "controlled exit" offered by Trump rather doubling down on their "knock out Anglo America" project but it looks like they are too intoxicated with their power to do that - take another look at the "press corps" in the video.

    I don’t think Trump is the president you are looking for.
    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the treasury. This part of Trump’s agenda aimed at dismantling consumer protections so that banks can shift more risk onto consumers. It will cost people money so banks can make more profit.
    He claims to have been for the working class, but then chooses a retail executive for labor secretary. Retail jobs being the example of the type of jobs we don’t want. Low-paying, few hours, poor benefits.(Part of the policy that resulted in that appointment is to dismantle the fiduciary rule which gives more freedom to financial institutions to deliberately cost you money in order to enrich themselves.)
    Then when he appoints the head of the FCC, the guy takes steps to make more money for cable and cell phone companies at the expense of the consumer. Instead of having freedom to access any web content as we see fit, we will end up paying a la carte like a cable subscription. Then if Time Warner decides they don’t want you visiting unz.com – you should be using their news outlet – they can slow down the connection unless you or the content provider pay a premium price for access if they even decide to offer it.

    I got more into policy than I intended to. But my original point was going to be that if Trump’s raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don’t like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then its a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.

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    But my original point was going to be that if Trump’s raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don’t like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then it's a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.
     
    I'm not that cynical, and the "press corps" in the video aren't playing in any charade. I meant to post the video below that has camera shots of this crowd of snakes desperate to take him down.

    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the Treasury.
     
    This is true and I remember his video just prior to the election including images of Blankfein (Goldman Sachs) and Yellen (FED) as part of the problem , but I still can't see him selling out his base. If he did, traditional Conservative America would hate him just as much as the CCP (Counter Cultural Progressive) left, and they aren't going to start liking him any time soon.
    , @Karl
    34 na > I don’t think Trump is the president you are looking for


    Raise your hand if you believe that Trump voters thought it was gonna be 4 years of: Bernie, but upgraded to a gorgeous wife
  35. Miro23 says:
    @na
    I don't think Trump is the president you are looking for.
    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the treasury. This part of Trump's agenda aimed at dismantling consumer protections so that banks can shift more risk onto consumers. It will cost people money so banks can make more profit.
    He claims to have been for the working class, but then chooses a retail executive for labor secretary. Retail jobs being the example of the type of jobs we don't want. Low-paying, few hours, poor benefits.(Part of the policy that resulted in that appointment is to dismantle the fiduciary rule which gives more freedom to financial institutions to deliberately cost you money in order to enrich themselves.)
    Then when he appoints the head of the FCC, the guy takes steps to make more money for cable and cell phone companies at the expense of the consumer. Instead of having freedom to access any web content as we see fit, we will end up paying a la carte like a cable subscription. Then if Time Warner decides they don't want you visiting unz.com - you should be using their news outlet - they can slow down the connection unless you or the content provider pay a premium price for access if they even decide to offer it.


    I got more into policy than I intended to. But my original point was going to be that if Trump's raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don't like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then its a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.

    But my original point was going to be that if Trump’s raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don’t like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then it’s a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.

    I’m not that cynical, and the “press corps” in the video aren’t playing in any charade. I meant to post the video below that has camera shots of this crowd of snakes desperate to take him down.

    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the Treasury.

    This is true and I remember his video just prior to the election including images of Blankfein (Goldman Sachs) and Yellen (FED) as part of the problem , but I still can’t see him selling out his base. If he did, traditional Conservative America would hate him just as much as the CCP (Counter Cultural Progressive) left, and they aren’t going to start liking him any time soon.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2DTG5iocSw&feature=youtu.be
  36. Miro23 says:
    @Miro23

    But my original point was going to be that if Trump’s raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don’t like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then it's a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.
     
    I'm not that cynical, and the "press corps" in the video aren't playing in any charade. I meant to post the video below that has camera shots of this crowd of snakes desperate to take him down.

    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the Treasury.
     
    This is true and I remember his video just prior to the election including images of Blankfein (Goldman Sachs) and Yellen (FED) as part of the problem , but I still can't see him selling out his base. If he did, traditional Conservative America would hate him just as much as the CCP (Counter Cultural Progressive) left, and they aren't going to start liking him any time soon.
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  37. mcohen says:

    ka

    friedman has the ability to keep the ball rolling and find a solution.whatever geniuses that came before him all failed.there is a long brown stripe of failure.

    the site mondoweiss is just more left wing liberal crap.at least 80% of my posts are moderated and removed because i do support the liberal agenda.j street is more of the same crap.there are those who think that a deal can be reached with the palestinians.they are dreaming.only an idiot would support immigration of a population that will destroy your society.it is that simple.
    for example when i say i support a one state solution,i mean one state,israel,a jewish state.anything else does not concern me.those arabs that presently live in israel and never left after 1948 deserve equal rights.they after all have contributed to the building of the state of israel.
    personally i feel the west bank beyond area c and the existing settlements is a lost cause unless water resources can be secured to support a growing population.
    as to annexing of the west bank and the millions of arabs that reside there i would wonder what israel would gain in the long term.
    the idea that the arabs living in the west bank and gaza should have a state is a left wing liberal pipe dream.it will never be acceptable to israel for the simple reason that it will be used as a base to attack israel.in my opinion egypt must take resposibility for gaza and jordan and syria responsibility for areas a and b of the west bank..
    failed states are a breeding ground for terrorism and couple that with extremist relegious views it becomes a state that exports terror in the name of relegion.moderate relegious views become tainted and the failure of moderates to reign in the extremists amongst them leads to a failed state.as i have stated before,survival comes first and relegion provide the will and intent.if relegion becomes tainted by extremism it disrupts the will and intent to survive through morality disfunction,that leads to a failed state
    a prime example is the oil producing countries of the middle east that have adopted extremist relegious views.they will fail.it is only a matter of time.unless the moderates in countries like iran and saudi arabia seize control of there countries they will end up living in failed states .
    the war in yemen in a direct example of failed states spreading there extremist views and ideology.they must be stopped either by outside intervention or by the support of moderates that live in those states.

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    Nonsense and it is your nonsense but you are entitled to it .
    , @in the middle
    I support ending aid to Israel, Egypt, etc. They should live according to their abilities, instead of munching from us. I don't care about them, I only care about us here in the USA. Period.
  38. @Mao Cheng Ji

    I believe Anton’s hope that America’s different races and ethnicities will magically come together, identifying with their social class rather than their racial/ethnic identities, is a pipe dream.
     
    Well, nothing happens magically. Shaking off false consciousness of the cultural hegemony and instilling class consciousness would, of course, require a huge effort. But it's not a "pipe dream", it's work.

    Bizarre that the old Communist dream of “workers of the world uniting” has been resurrected by the Trump Right. (ie, those supporting individualistic business owner-centered capitalism over Samuel Francis/James Burnham’s “managerial” (ie liberal) manager-centered capitalism.) In other words, the direct decendants of those who’d have personally stood at their own factory gates with a shotgun in times of labor unrest.

    I can’t even tell who is “right” and who is “left” anymore.

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    I can’t even tell who is “right” and who is “left” anymore.
     
    I agree, it's an amazing, fascinating role-reversal.

    'Internationalists' (globalists), 'egalitarians' (liberals), proponents of planned economy (western technocrats), and prophets of the utopian 'end of history' - have become the worst enemies of the working people. And the opposition, reactionary nationalists, are turning into leaders of the labor movement. Left is right, up is down. Go figure.
  39. J.Ross says: • Website

    When I found “The Flight 93 Election,” I immediately sent both url’s and entire copy-and-paste transfers to friends, explaining in the e-mail subject line that this was the most important written piece of that period.

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  40. KA says:
    @mcohen
    ka

    friedman has the ability to keep the ball rolling and find a solution.whatever geniuses that came before him all failed.there is a long brown stripe of failure.

    the site mondoweiss is just more left wing liberal crap.at least 80% of my posts are moderated and removed because i do support the liberal agenda.j street is more of the same crap.there are those who think that a deal can be reached with the palestinians.they are dreaming.only an idiot would support immigration of a population that will destroy your society.it is that simple.
    for example when i say i support a one state solution,i mean one state,israel,a jewish state.anything else does not concern me.those arabs that presently live in israel and never left after 1948 deserve equal rights.they after all have contributed to the building of the state of israel.
    personally i feel the west bank beyond area c and the existing settlements is a lost cause unless water resources can be secured to support a growing population.
    as to annexing of the west bank and the millions of arabs that reside there i would wonder what israel would gain in the long term.
    the idea that the arabs living in the west bank and gaza should have a state is a left wing liberal pipe dream.it will never be acceptable to israel for the simple reason that it will be used as a base to attack israel.in my opinion egypt must take resposibility for gaza and jordan and syria responsibility for areas a and b of the west bank..
    failed states are a breeding ground for terrorism and couple that with extremist relegious views it becomes a state that exports terror in the name of relegion.moderate relegious views become tainted and the failure of moderates to reign in the extremists amongst them leads to a failed state.as i have stated before,survival comes first and relegion provide the will and intent.if relegion becomes tainted by extremism it disrupts the will and intent to survive through morality disfunction,that leads to a failed state
    a prime example is the oil producing countries of the middle east that have adopted extremist relegious views.they will fail.it is only a matter of time.unless the moderates in countries like iran and saudi arabia seize control of there countries they will end up living in failed states .
    the war in yemen in a direct example of failed states spreading there extremist views and ideology.they must be stopped either by outside intervention or by the support of moderates that live in those states.

    Nonsense and it is your nonsense but you are entitled to it .

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    Did you bother to read the link I provided.perhaps you should.
    Nonsense is my middle name so thank you.
    Iran and Saudi Arabia must withdraw from Yemen.this week a good example of non sense will be applied in relation to Yemen..
  41. mcohen says:
    @KA
    Nonsense and it is your nonsense but you are entitled to it .

    Did you bother to read the link I provided.perhaps you should.
    Nonsense is my middle name so thank you.
    Iran and Saudi Arabia must withdraw from Yemen.this week a good example of non sense will be applied in relation to Yemen..

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  42. @El Dato
    Bill Kristol critizing someone for not bedding lady virtue of responsibility?

    Will no-one rid me of this obnoxious, irresponsible, no-skin-in-the-game talking head?

    What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?

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  43. @berserker
    For all those living in the fantasy land of multiculturalism, here is an exercise: take India, a so-called country rich in diversity. Take people from a state from the North and move them by the millions to one in the South. Please tell me what you expect will happen. And these are people belonging to a common ancient civilization, far closer in norms than a Somali is to someone living in Minnesota.

    Try this for the size: India is like Europe (don’t laugh just yet) in that Hindus are the Christians, Jains are the Jews (to see the similarities compare diamond trade, media ownership, banking etc.) and the states (nations if you will) are divided along the linguistic lines (all but four of the languages emanated from Sanskrit) and not unlike Europe, it would not be difficult to identify Indians in a crowd giving the sense that they are part of the same race (save the four southern states which can be said to be the Estonians, Hungarians, Finns & Basques of India). Now more to the point as to how would it all pan out if Punjabis (Italians) were to move into Bengal (England) enmass for the diversity of India… Hard to say, for it has never happened before!

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  44. @KA
    Militant Islam is no different than militant Hinudism,Christianity,and Judaism . Some of them convert the enemies and force them into the tent Some of them relegate them to to the 2nd class or 3rd class citizen and maintain the separation. At the turn of the century or even before that probably at the turn of the 18th century the religious fervor were already visibly absent among Islamic countries These were the ossified corrupt but multi ethnic empires . European power emerged with ideas and muscle power Both were corrupted and imbued with religiosity They also created religious frictions in those countries where none existed at that particular point of time . Religion became a rallying cry for its own advancement in European context as well as in colonized worlds. Islamic countries generated its own set of ideologues enchanted,inspired ,or disgusted by western philosophy,politics, and market . Initially the former succeeded from Turkey to Indonesia from India to Egypt . When those forces became more Independent and did not remain just a card carrying junior member of the western club, the equation started unraveling . Islamist came to the fore in Egypt in Pakistan in Iran Sometime it was promoted as in Pakistan . Very soon Hindusim would turn away from Ghandhian to religiosity of RSS/BJP/Shiv Sena .
    While Islaimist had been kept at bay by the secular westernized forces - whether it was in Indonesia, Egypt,Tunisia, Turkey or Iran or even among pre Jinnah Muslim politics of India or Bhutto's Pakistan - that was not the case of the religious extremist and fanatics in the American and Israeli political situations for over a century . They were embraced, allowed to dictate and influence polices These fanatics did not have to turn to violence Government was doing great job There was always a religious angle in every fights - whether bombing of Japan, or Vietnam war or fight against t Soviet or even the latest fight against Iraq . Democracy was thrown in because suddenly Democracy seemed to be a Christian idea because current concept of Democracy emerged in Western countries . Now the country has moved away from Bush era religiosity and has moved much more from Regan era religiosity and casting our eyes back we can say it has moved much farther beyond any redemption from the religiosity of Teddy Roosevelt, and has created panic among the evangelic.
    How to get them fired up in the service of the unraveling empire? Only one way that is to find an enemy It was outside the border before Now they are in side the border as well. Country is already divided and seems beyond repair when it comes to abortion, LGBT, contraception, sex before after during marriage school prayer, Sunday as resting day and the teaching of the evolution, and the literalism of Bible . Evangelical made peace with Zionism and the Zionism returned the favors with abandon . It is falling back on its core 1800 ideas- no color,no religion,no race,no language other than of it's own .Once this is achieved we the evangelic can again start the conquest of the world like we did in 15th and 18 th and 19 th century . Will it work? Or will there be realignment of forces and will put paid to the careerist warmongers,evangelical ideas as well as to the empire's one more attempt to raise its head ? Militant Islam is a much recent phenomena way after Judaism and Christianity had embraced all the horrors of fanaticism in its midst They just happened to own the better polemic, skilled administrative and the perfect delivery system .

    So why is this sudden focus on Judaism and Israel and Zionism? Islam is no longer enough . Because underlying the superficial understanding lies deeper one- Scofield Bible , Elevation of Rapture, or the redirection by James Parton ( The Atlantic ) or Pastor McDonald or William Eugene Blackstone have failed them skewered them and have taken them to the cleaners So have the novel EXODUS and the LEFT BEHIND series . But before one get there ,they have to peel away unnecessary distraction with ease and present them as big success to earn the trust confidence and the "soft power ' of persuasion.

    I left my protestant church when the pastor was demonizing the president of Iran, and angelizing (new word) Israel. Talking the BS that we are either blessed or cursed according to our support for Israhell. No way! We are blessed for your actions, I believe. Evangelicals are so blind to the sayings of their bibles, except the satanic inspired and useless Scofield Bible. I now read the New Testament in Greek, (www.biblehub.com). Tired of lies and sold out preachers preaching lies, and propaganda. No where in the NT you find mention of ‘blessing Israel”. Such a lie! We are to live in peace with our neighbors.
    I have encountered people from others believes, and believe me, Muslims are the most fanatics, dislikable and ferocious enemies of Christianity; I also debated with Jews who fail to tell me why they are supposedly Semites. I once asked a Jew who were the Semites that I was anti them? He failed to answer! I am not afraid to confront whom ever calls me anti this, and anti that.

    I told my neighbor to stop coward-izing in front of any one who called him racist, anti this or that, etc. What the heck, people, when they call you anti this, they are making you defend something they are accusing you of; and they know it. So As I answered someone one day, “Yes so what?” When you answer that way, they accusers are stunt, and don’t know how to react, because they are used to prick you with it, and expect you to coward and apologize even if the accusation is not true.

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    some tantalizing clues ( again ? haven't we had those clues about 1980 1990 in Kabul Kosovo Caucasus )
    “It’s not that we don’t want the Salafis to throw bombs,” said one US government defense consultant in 2007. “It’s who they throw them at – Hezbollah, Moqtada al-Sadr, Iran, and at the Syrians, if they continue to work with Hezbollah and Iran.”

    Early during the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, the US covertly supplied arms to al-Qaeda affiliated insurgents even while ostensibly supporting an emerging Shi’a-dominated administration.

    Pakistani defense sources interviewed by Asia Times in February 2005 confirmed that insurgents described as “former Ba’ath party” loyalists – who were being recruited and trained by “al-Qaeda in Iraq” under the leadership of the late Abu Musab Zarqawi – were being supplied Pakistan-manufactured weapons by the US. The arms shipments included rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, ammunition, rockets and other light weaponry.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/12/how-the-west-created-the-islamic-state/

    2 According to a little-known November report for the US Joint Special Operations University (JSOU) and Strategic Studies Department, Dividing Our Enemies, post-invasion Iraq was “an interesting case study of fanning discontent among enemies, leading to ‘red-against-red’ [enemy-against-enemy] firefights.

    3 The CIA began its active meddling in Syria in 1949 — barely a year after the agency’s creation.

    4 A damning 2008 Pentagon-funded Rand report proposed a precise blueprint for what was about to happen. That report observes that control of the Persian Gulf oil and gas deposits will remain, for the U.S., “a strategic priority” that “will interact strongly with that of prosecuting the long war.” Rand recommended using “covert action, information operations, unconventional warfare” to enforce a “divide and rule” strategy. “The United States and its local allies could use the nationalist jihadists to launch a proxy campaign” and “U.S. leaders could also choose to capitalize on the sustained Shia-Sunni conflict trajectory by taking the side of the conservative Sunni regimes against Shiite empowerment movements in the Muslim world … possibly supporting authoritative Sunni governments against a continuingly hostile Iran.

    5 The CIA provided $6 million to Barada, a British TV channel, to produce pieces entreating Assad’s ouster.

    6 Saleh Sa’adi, who took office alongside Saddam Hussein, would later say, “We came to power on a CIA train,” according to A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite, by Said Aburish, a journalist and author. Aburish recounted that the CIA supplied Saddam and his cronies a murder list of people who “had to be eliminated immediately in order to ensure success.” Tim Weiner writes that Critchfield later acknowledged that the CIA had, in essence, “created Saddam Hussein.”

    http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-mideast-conflict-oil-intervention/

    May be these muslims hate us because of being used as cannon fodder by Christians powers

  45. @Sam J.
    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” – Henry David Thoreau

    It always been the Jews. Whether they are the instigators of our decline is irrelevant. They are the root.

    The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world. I met and befriended a great Judean from Jerusalem in California, great and friendly guy. He looked like Iraqi. Then later on I met a Judean who came from South Africa, and looked like the demon twins in the movie Matrix, the ones with white hair, and transparent skin. He was evil and racist big time! So my point is that as any other group, they are different in evilness. Whoever you call the Jews as the root, could be categorized in a special group. I believe and history attest to it, that most of the Judeans, and Talmudist are kazharians and Europeans who converted to the Talmudic religion in past centuries. Don’t believe me?

    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

    Therefore, those so called Jews, are mostly the converted ones, who became Two fold sons of Gehenna, meaning destruction, burning, death. Thus enemies of mankind.

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    Bless you my son may Jub be you as the stone,may timothy offer up Kool aid to calm your fevered brow so that you and annie may sprinkle the golden nectar and sail away on the gentle winds of Matthew
    , @Sam J.
    "...The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world..."

    I don't believe any of that nonsense and find the whole thing irrelevant as any reading of history will show you that they both act alike.
  46. @Miro23
    An interesting article describing Trump's situation as US President, and it's confirmed in this video of his 2/16/17 Press Conference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FRUM-AK9k

    He's the elected President but faces a totally hostile MSM without a friend in sight. In other words the MSM don't represent the public, they represent the Plutocracy/Deep State/Neo-cons and their Cultural Marxist allies and they want Trump out.

    The good news is that whatever Trump does they are going to try to pull him down, so he's got nothing to lose, making a straightforward fight which probably suits him better.

    "America First" - is never going to happen with them so at some point Trump has to use his Democratic mandate to go after key figures in the Deep State and get Special Interests (AIPAC and all the rest of them) out of the administration and politics.

    So probably, one way or another, the Swamp is going to be drained, and paradoxically the Deep State and Special Interests would do better taking the "controlled exit" offered by Trump rather doubling down on their "knock out Anglo America" project but it looks like they are too intoxicated with their power to do that - take another look at the "press corps" in the video.

    What is needed greatly is for those who support President Trump, to man up, and stand the ground, without our support, the enemy of America is wining, in the sense that they are rabidly attacking our President. I am on vacations in Mexico and people attack my President Trump, and I told them to butt out, and fix their problems first, before bad mouthing Trump. Obviously I saw another bunch of Americans with sings saying ‘I voted for Clinton”. In fear. So here it is. Man up and stand your ground; yes, its not easy, and as Anthony Quinn said “If hard things were done easily, ANY body could do them”, or something like that. I do have family who voted for Trump but are afraid to say it. The radical left is in a war path, and YOU who voted and support Trump are the enemy. So surrender or fight, can’t stand in the middle, you will be attacked from both sides. Take a side and stand, and once standing, stand.

    “I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before me in the gap on behalf of the land so I would not have to destroy it, but I found no one. Ezekiel 22:30

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  47. @mcohen
    ka

    friedman has the ability to keep the ball rolling and find a solution.whatever geniuses that came before him all failed.there is a long brown stripe of failure.

    the site mondoweiss is just more left wing liberal crap.at least 80% of my posts are moderated and removed because i do support the liberal agenda.j street is more of the same crap.there are those who think that a deal can be reached with the palestinians.they are dreaming.only an idiot would support immigration of a population that will destroy your society.it is that simple.
    for example when i say i support a one state solution,i mean one state,israel,a jewish state.anything else does not concern me.those arabs that presently live in israel and never left after 1948 deserve equal rights.they after all have contributed to the building of the state of israel.
    personally i feel the west bank beyond area c and the existing settlements is a lost cause unless water resources can be secured to support a growing population.
    as to annexing of the west bank and the millions of arabs that reside there i would wonder what israel would gain in the long term.
    the idea that the arabs living in the west bank and gaza should have a state is a left wing liberal pipe dream.it will never be acceptable to israel for the simple reason that it will be used as a base to attack israel.in my opinion egypt must take resposibility for gaza and jordan and syria responsibility for areas a and b of the west bank..
    failed states are a breeding ground for terrorism and couple that with extremist relegious views it becomes a state that exports terror in the name of relegion.moderate relegious views become tainted and the failure of moderates to reign in the extremists amongst them leads to a failed state.as i have stated before,survival comes first and relegion provide the will and intent.if relegion becomes tainted by extremism it disrupts the will and intent to survive through morality disfunction,that leads to a failed state
    a prime example is the oil producing countries of the middle east that have adopted extremist relegious views.they will fail.it is only a matter of time.unless the moderates in countries like iran and saudi arabia seize control of there countries they will end up living in failed states .
    the war in yemen in a direct example of failed states spreading there extremist views and ideology.they must be stopped either by outside intervention or by the support of moderates that live in those states.

    I support ending aid to Israel, Egypt, etc. They should live according to their abilities, instead of munching from us. I don’t care about them, I only care about us here in the USA. Period.

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  48. @Steel T Post
    Regarding Mao's blank slate narrative.

    MAO: "A human mind can be molded into pretty much anything."
     
    The Left's blank slate narrative is exactly what Professor Kevin MacDonald debunks.

    TRS: "I still highly recommend you read the work of Kevin MacDonald for the fuller picture. Two of the biggest lies of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries are that human beings are born as a blank slate, where our behaviors are merely a product of our social environment, and that race doesn't exist."
    therightstuff.biz/2015/09/11/draft-the-decline-of-darwinism-2/
     

    The Left’s blank slate narrative is exactly what Professor Kevin MacDonald debunks.

    Non-sequitur: who said anything about the ‘blank slate’? Are you denying the effects of social conditioning? Don’t be silly.

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  49. @anonymous-antiskynetist
    Bizarre that the old Communist dream of "workers of the world uniting" has been resurrected by the Trump Right. (ie, those supporting individualistic business owner-centered capitalism over Samuel Francis/James Burnham's "managerial" (ie liberal) manager-centered capitalism.) In other words, the direct decendants of those who'd have personally stood at their own factory gates with a shotgun in times of labor unrest.

    I can't even tell who is "right" and who is "left" anymore.

    I can’t even tell who is “right” and who is “left” anymore.

    I agree, it’s an amazing, fascinating role-reversal.

    ‘Internationalists’ (globalists), ‘egalitarians’ (liberals), proponents of planned economy (western technocrats), and prophets of the utopian ‘end of history’ – have become the worst enemies of the working people. And the opposition, reactionary nationalists, are turning into leaders of the labor movement. Left is right, up is down. Go figure.

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  50. Karl says:
    @na
    I don't think Trump is the president you are looking for.
    He campaigned against Goldman Sachs, then puts them in charge of the treasury. This part of Trump's agenda aimed at dismantling consumer protections so that banks can shift more risk onto consumers. It will cost people money so banks can make more profit.
    He claims to have been for the working class, but then chooses a retail executive for labor secretary. Retail jobs being the example of the type of jobs we don't want. Low-paying, few hours, poor benefits.(Part of the policy that resulted in that appointment is to dismantle the fiduciary rule which gives more freedom to financial institutions to deliberately cost you money in order to enrich themselves.)
    Then when he appoints the head of the FCC, the guy takes steps to make more money for cable and cell phone companies at the expense of the consumer. Instead of having freedom to access any web content as we see fit, we will end up paying a la carte like a cable subscription. Then if Time Warner decides they don't want you visiting unz.com - you should be using their news outlet - they can slow down the connection unless you or the content provider pay a premium price for access if they even decide to offer it.


    I got more into policy than I intended to. But my original point was going to be that if Trump's raging at the MSM is a deliberate charade to make people who don't like the left-lean of the media sympathetic to him, then its a brilliant strategy because his agenda will let corporatist America (to whom the MSM belongs and may be a willing participant) take us to the cleaners.

    34 na > I don’t think Trump is the president you are looking for

    Raise your hand if you believe that Trump voters thought it was gonna be 4 years of: Bernie, but upgraded to a gorgeous wife

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    • Replies: @in the middle
    Cannot, I repeat cannot let everything for the President to do. It takes a whole nation to push forward, and to make America Greater, I would say. The most unfortunate thing the so called left has done with neo..communists, I mean neocons is to divide the nation into groups of races. If we just let go of 'left versus right' etc, it could be easier to comprehend that some group benefits by dividing the American people. Forget the Russians, the group dividing us hates the Russians even since they assisted president Lincoln back in the 1860s. Read history, it might help you understanding the present, although be careful, history was written by the victors, so it helps to read both sides, when it is possible to find the other side's story. It amazes me when people point out that the Talmudist run the world. How do they reached such power, and when? I once put that question to a Jewish friend of mine. He actually revealed to me, that in business they only deal with other Judeans, but sell their craft to what he called 'goyim'. They charge no usury to each other, but do so to the goyim, etc., and claim anti Semitism if you only dare to point that out, smart people indeed, I say. So lets claim anti whitism whenever they attack the pale faces then, it might work.
  51. KA says:
    @in the middle
    I left my protestant church when the pastor was demonizing the president of Iran, and angelizing (new word) Israel. Talking the BS that we are either blessed or cursed according to our support for Israhell. No way! We are blessed for your actions, I believe. Evangelicals are so blind to the sayings of their bibles, except the satanic inspired and useless Scofield Bible. I now read the New Testament in Greek, (www.biblehub.com). Tired of lies and sold out preachers preaching lies, and propaganda. No where in the NT you find mention of 'blessing Israel". Such a lie! We are to live in peace with our neighbors.
    I have encountered people from others believes, and believe me, Muslims are the most fanatics, dislikable and ferocious enemies of Christianity; I also debated with Jews who fail to tell me why they are supposedly Semites. I once asked a Jew who were the Semites that I was anti them? He failed to answer! I am not afraid to confront whom ever calls me anti this, and anti that.

    I told my neighbor to stop coward-izing in front of any one who called him racist, anti this or that, etc. What the heck, people, when they call you anti this, they are making you defend something they are accusing you of; and they know it. So As I answered someone one day, "Yes so what?" When you answer that way, they accusers are stunt, and don't know how to react, because they are used to prick you with it, and expect you to coward and apologize even if the accusation is not true.

    some tantalizing clues ( again ? haven’t we had those clues about 1980 1990 in Kabul Kosovo Caucasus )
    “It’s not that we don’t want the Salafis to throw bombs,” said one US government defense consultant in 2007. “It’s who they throw them at – Hezbollah, Moqtada al-Sadr, Iran, and at the Syrians, if they continue to work with Hezbollah and Iran.”

    Early during the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, the US covertly supplied arms to al-Qaeda affiliated insurgents even while ostensibly supporting an emerging Shi’a-dominated administration.

    Pakistani defense sources interviewed by Asia Times in February 2005 confirmed that insurgents described as “former Ba’ath party” loyalists – who were being recruited and trained by “al-Qaeda in Iraq” under the leadership of the late Abu Musab Zarqawi – were being supplied Pakistan-manufactured weapons by the US. The arms shipments included rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, ammunition, rockets and other light weaponry.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/12/how-the-west-created-the-islamic-state/

    2 According to a little-known November report for the US Joint Special Operations University (JSOU) and Strategic Studies Department, Dividing Our Enemies, post-invasion Iraq was “an interesting case study of fanning discontent among enemies, leading to ‘red-against-red’ [enemy-against-enemy] firefights.

    3 The CIA began its active meddling in Syria in 1949 — barely a year after the agency’s creation.

    4 A damning 2008 Pentagon-funded Rand report proposed a precise blueprint for what was about to happen. That report observes that control of the Persian Gulf oil and gas deposits will remain, for the U.S., “a strategic priority” that “will interact strongly with that of prosecuting the long war.” Rand recommended using “covert action, information operations, unconventional warfare” to enforce a “divide and rule” strategy. “The United States and its local allies could use the nationalist jihadists to launch a proxy campaign” and “U.S. leaders could also choose to capitalize on the sustained Shia-Sunni conflict trajectory by taking the side of the conservative Sunni regimes against Shiite empowerment movements in the Muslim world … possibly supporting authoritative Sunni governments against a continuingly hostile Iran.

    5 The CIA provided $6 million to Barada, a British TV channel, to produce pieces entreating Assad’s ouster.

    6 Saleh Sa’adi, who took office alongside Saddam Hussein, would later say, “We came to power on a CIA train,” according to A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite, by Said Aburish, a journalist and author. Aburish recounted that the CIA supplied Saddam and his cronies a murder list of people who “had to be eliminated immediately in order to ensure success.” Tim Weiner writes that Critchfield later acknowledged that the CIA had, in essence, “created Saddam Hussein.”

    http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-mideast-conflict-oil-intervention/

    May be these muslims hate us because of being used as cannon fodder by Christians powers

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    There is not such thing as a 'Christian power', only Masonic power, controlled by the elders of the tribe. And of course the conflicts are created by those in power under a penumbra intent to kil, rob, and destroy, as their father intents and uses them for.

    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

    And as most awakened people now know: The MSN and the three letter agencies in the US Gove now do, is lie, lie, lie. So lets support and pray for our President Trump. As Iesus Christus say to them:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

    And so are they, the children of the Diabolus, the so called tribe who control the MSN and other centers of power.
  52. @Anonymous
    A striking aspect of your work, Dr. MacDonald, is you have never (to my knowledge) written a bit on White self-deception, and your own.

    They must be there too, or not? Why not write a book on White psychological inferiority (as compared to some other peoples) and self-deception?

    I believe that the only whites with inferiority complex are a very few who hardly read and write or addicted to the MSN falsehood’s . I also can affirm that whites are the only ones who do not display psychological inferiority as far as the ones I work with in the USAF. White Kids from all over the USA so normal that looks weird, compared with several minorities who some how with few exceptions display an uncommon disorientation while working with other minorities, but who feel at ease working with Euro-Americans. Lets face it, the only whites who are psychological messed up are the ones who faithfully watch the news in the regular CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc, whose brain is beyond redemption. I almost fell into the MSN grip. Thank God for the internet! Now I can read presstv, RT, veteranstoday, and this UNZ! So I don’t even have a TV anymore, garbage, brain washing bunch that they are, keeping the older generation as robots reacting to their very venom spewed daily via TV.

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  53. @Karl
    34 na > I don’t think Trump is the president you are looking for


    Raise your hand if you believe that Trump voters thought it was gonna be 4 years of: Bernie, but upgraded to a gorgeous wife

    Cannot, I repeat cannot let everything for the President to do. It takes a whole nation to push forward, and to make America Greater, I would say. The most unfortunate thing the so called left has done with neo..communists, I mean neocons is to divide the nation into groups of races. If we just let go of ‘left versus right’ etc, it could be easier to comprehend that some group benefits by dividing the American people. Forget the Russians, the group dividing us hates the Russians even since they assisted president Lincoln back in the 1860s. Read history, it might help you understanding the present, although be careful, history was written by the victors, so it helps to read both sides, when it is possible to find the other side’s story. It amazes me when people point out that the Talmudist run the world. How do they reached such power, and when? I once put that question to a Jewish friend of mine. He actually revealed to me, that in business they only deal with other Judeans, but sell their craft to what he called ‘goyim’. They charge no usury to each other, but do so to the goyim, etc., and claim anti Semitism if you only dare to point that out, smart people indeed, I say. So lets claim anti whitism whenever they attack the pale faces then, it might work.

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    So lets claim anti whitism whenever they attack the pale faces then, it might work.
     
    "Anti whitism" would play into their scheme -- Blacks have always been a front group for Talmudists; they draw off resentment that might be more appropriately lodged against themselves.

    I suggest, instead, claiming, long and loud and persistently, "anti American." Because that is what it is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_5iOYsHFQ

    Alison Weir revealed the agenda of Louis Brandeis -- his loyalties were for the zionist project/Israel. That's anti-American, inasmuch as Brandeis embroiled USA in a war for the benefit of the zionist project. Jeffrey Rosen, director of the US Center for the Constitution (!), proclaims Brandeis to be his "hero," because Brandeis, "more than anyone else, got the Balfour agreement and a homeland for Jews in Palestine." https://www.c-span.org/video/?412902-7/jeffrey-rosen-national-constitution-center

    http://www.unz.com/article/review-against-our-better-judgment/

    That's so very charming, Messrs Rosen & Brandeis, but both of you were/are on the payroll of the USA, paid by US taxpayers to advance their interests, not Israel's.

    That is what America First means, and Brandeis & Rosen acted un-Americanly.

  54. mcohen says:
    @in the middle
    The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world. I met and befriended a great Judean from Jerusalem in California, great and friendly guy. He looked like Iraqi. Then later on I met a Judean who came from South Africa, and looked like the demon twins in the movie Matrix, the ones with white hair, and transparent skin. He was evil and racist big time! So my point is that as any other group, they are different in evilness. Whoever you call the Jews as the root, could be categorized in a special group. I believe and history attest to it, that most of the Judeans, and Talmudist are kazharians and Europeans who converted to the Talmudic religion in past centuries. Don't believe me?



    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

    Therefore, those so called Jews, are mostly the converted ones, who became Two fold sons of Gehenna, meaning destruction, burning, death. Thus enemies of mankind.

    Bless you my son may Jub be you as the stone,may timothy offer up Kool aid to calm your fevered brow so that you and annie may sprinkle the golden nectar and sail away on the gentle winds of Matthew

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  55. @KA
    some tantalizing clues ( again ? haven't we had those clues about 1980 1990 in Kabul Kosovo Caucasus )
    “It’s not that we don’t want the Salafis to throw bombs,” said one US government defense consultant in 2007. “It’s who they throw them at – Hezbollah, Moqtada al-Sadr, Iran, and at the Syrians, if they continue to work with Hezbollah and Iran.”

    Early during the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, the US covertly supplied arms to al-Qaeda affiliated insurgents even while ostensibly supporting an emerging Shi’a-dominated administration.

    Pakistani defense sources interviewed by Asia Times in February 2005 confirmed that insurgents described as “former Ba’ath party” loyalists – who were being recruited and trained by “al-Qaeda in Iraq” under the leadership of the late Abu Musab Zarqawi – were being supplied Pakistan-manufactured weapons by the US. The arms shipments included rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, ammunition, rockets and other light weaponry.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/12/how-the-west-created-the-islamic-state/

    2 According to a little-known November report for the US Joint Special Operations University (JSOU) and Strategic Studies Department, Dividing Our Enemies, post-invasion Iraq was “an interesting case study of fanning discontent among enemies, leading to ‘red-against-red’ [enemy-against-enemy] firefights.

    3 The CIA began its active meddling in Syria in 1949 — barely a year after the agency’s creation.

    4 A damning 2008 Pentagon-funded Rand report proposed a precise blueprint for what was about to happen. That report observes that control of the Persian Gulf oil and gas deposits will remain, for the U.S., “a strategic priority” that “will interact strongly with that of prosecuting the long war.” Rand recommended using “covert action, information operations, unconventional warfare” to enforce a “divide and rule” strategy. “The United States and its local allies could use the nationalist jihadists to launch a proxy campaign” and “U.S. leaders could also choose to capitalize on the sustained Shia-Sunni conflict trajectory by taking the side of the conservative Sunni regimes against Shiite empowerment movements in the Muslim world … possibly supporting authoritative Sunni governments against a continuingly hostile Iran.

    5 The CIA provided $6 million to Barada, a British TV channel, to produce pieces entreating Assad’s ouster.

    6 Saleh Sa’adi, who took office alongside Saddam Hussein, would later say, “We came to power on a CIA train,” according to A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite, by Said Aburish, a journalist and author. Aburish recounted that the CIA supplied Saddam and his cronies a murder list of people who “had to be eliminated immediately in order to ensure success.” Tim Weiner writes that Critchfield later acknowledged that the CIA had, in essence, “created Saddam Hussein.”

    http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-mideast-conflict-oil-intervention/

    May be these muslims hate us because of being used as cannon fodder by Christians powers

    There is not such thing as a ‘Christian power’, only Masonic power, controlled by the elders of the tribe. And of course the conflicts are created by those in power under a penumbra intent to kil, rob, and destroy, as their father intents and uses them for.

    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

    And as most awakened people now know: The MSN and the three letter agencies in the US Gove now do, is lie, lie, lie. So lets support and pray for our President Trump. As Iesus Christus say to them:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

    And so are they, the children of the Diabolus, the so called tribe who control the MSN and other centers of power.

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  56. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max
    Professor MacDonald has done precisely that. He spent the last several years mainly focusing on pathological altruism in Northern Europeans:

    Kevin MacDonald - Evolutionary & Genetic Basis for Pathological Altruism - Hour 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FyMrWbkL7Q

    Published on May 29, 2015

    [...] In the first hour, Kevin outlines his recent work, which explores theories of a genetic basis for altruism and the lack of ethnic awareness or kinship oriented nepotism. He explains recent scientific studies that are finding there is perhaps a genetic or evolutionary reason for the kind of pathological altruism found in Northern Europe. [...]

    Prof. Kevin B. Macdonald - The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWfPWdbPC8

    Published on Apr 20, 2015

    On the 18th of April, 2015, Logik Förlag in cooperation with Counter-Currents Publishing hosted a number of lectures and a book release in the city of Stockholm.

    This particular lecture was held by Kevin B. Macdonald, professor of Psychology at California State University-Long Beach, and the subject is "The Psychological Mechanism of White Dispossession".

    Professor MacDonald’s research is confirmed by two indexes:

    Bloomberg Innovation Index

    Nordic nations dominate the top 15, while South Korea reigns supreme and Russia is dealt a huge blow

    There’s something about those Nordic countries.

    In the battle of ideas, Sweden climbed to No. 2 and Finland cracked into the top five of the 2017 Bloomberg Innovation Index, which scores economies using factors including research and development spending and the concentration of high-tech public companies.
    [...]
    The Swedes themselves promote an atmosphere of great personal ambition — unlike some European neighbors that emphasize the collective — and that’s a boon to innovation, he said.

    “In the culture, people are super individualistic — this means that people have ideas and are very interested in pursuing them in this way in order to become wealthy,” said Henrekson.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-17/sweden-gains-south-korea-reigns-as-world-s-most-innovative-economies

    The following ranking of the Bloomberg Innovation Index is from 2015, and countries rise or fall within the ranking from year to year, but the dominance of the historically majority Protestant nations with Northern European-derived populations in the Top 20 is very consistent:

    [MORE]

    It is actually eleven (11) historically majority Protestant/Northern European nations in the Top 20; 55% of the list.

    Germany(3rd), Finland(4th), USA(6th), Sweden(7th), UK(10th), Denmark(11th), Canada(12th), Australia(13th), Norway(15th), New Zealand(18th), Netherlands(20th).

    I did not include Switzerland(16th) — even though Switzerland, historically, has been almost 50% Protestant, in particular the innovative cities were predominantly Protestant — because it is not really Northern European

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762852

    Corruption Perceptions Index

    So I think it’s safe to say that Protestantism is the dominant religious expression of the Anglo-Germanic peoples, and only the Anglo-Germanic peoples. And, getting back to the original northern rebellion against southern corruption, the Anglo-Germanic nations remain the gold standard in honesty and transparency.

    Here are top-ranked nations in the 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, with the nations with a historic Protestant majority marked with a (P):

    1. Denmark (P)
    2. Finland (P)
    3. Sweden (P)
    4. New Zealand (P)
    5. Netherlands (P)
    5. Norway (P)
    7. Switzerland (P)
    8. Singapore
    9. Canada (P)
    10. Germany (P)
    10. Luxembourg
    10. United Kingdom (P)
    13. Australia (P)
    13. Iceland (P)
    15. Belgium
    16. Austria
    16. United States (P)
    18. Ireland

    All 17 Anglo-Germanic nations finish in the top 18, with only the honourary Protestants of Singapore breaking their monopoly

    https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/some-very-random-thoughts-on-the-reformation/#comment-130184

    Visualizing Values Mismatch in the European Union
    [...]
    EUROPE’S NORTH-SOUTH DIVIDE—A STUBBORN CHASM

    German sociologist Max Weber. The latter had suggested that Protestant countries in Northern Europe outperformed the rest of the continent because of their superior work ethic, because they were thriftier and because they possessed more effective social capital, that is to say the efficacy of social networks.
    [...]
    Cognitive emotion regulation and psychopathology across cultures: A comparison between six European countries

    overall northern European countries (Germany and Netherlands) made less use of strategies such as rumination, catastrophizing, and other-blame, when compared to southern and eastern European countries (Spain, Italy, Portugal, and Hungary).

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-did-the-eu-become-europhobic/#comment-1707368

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    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.

    In my limited observation in a working life of more than 50 years, I came to the conclusion that the so-called Protestant work ethic is nonsense.

    Good management, leadership, combined with good tools and training, plus personal responsibility, are what makes the for a productive and inventive society. HdC
  57. @Diversity Heretic
    Thanks for your comment. I've often thought that assimilation works both ways, particularly when mass immigration is involved. The immigrants change to adapt to the new environment, but the existing culture and people have to change to adapt to the immigrants, often in ways that are to the very substantial disadvantage of the existing culture. Your example of "assimilation" of Muslims in Europe (and probably soon in the U.S.) is an illustration of precisely this (highly undesirable) phenomenon.

    Well, you fight back or surrender. Pick one. Because once they’re here and become neighborhoods of no-go, it would take the 81st Airborne to clean them out. But I figure since we let them in, allow them to cow our citizens, refuse to report their crimes, rapes and general nuisances, we’re certainly not going to fight them once they’re established. That’s the history in Europe. In ant given scenario where they become even the slightest bit the majority, they make life intolerable. If individuals aren’t allowed to take their own defense, the government sure as Hell will not.

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  58. @in the middle
    Cannot, I repeat cannot let everything for the President to do. It takes a whole nation to push forward, and to make America Greater, I would say. The most unfortunate thing the so called left has done with neo..communists, I mean neocons is to divide the nation into groups of races. If we just let go of 'left versus right' etc, it could be easier to comprehend that some group benefits by dividing the American people. Forget the Russians, the group dividing us hates the Russians even since they assisted president Lincoln back in the 1860s. Read history, it might help you understanding the present, although be careful, history was written by the victors, so it helps to read both sides, when it is possible to find the other side's story. It amazes me when people point out that the Talmudist run the world. How do they reached such power, and when? I once put that question to a Jewish friend of mine. He actually revealed to me, that in business they only deal with other Judeans, but sell their craft to what he called 'goyim'. They charge no usury to each other, but do so to the goyim, etc., and claim anti Semitism if you only dare to point that out, smart people indeed, I say. So lets claim anti whitism whenever they attack the pale faces then, it might work.

    So lets claim anti whitism whenever they attack the pale faces then, it might work.

    “Anti whitism” would play into their scheme — Blacks have always been a front group for Talmudists; they draw off resentment that might be more appropriately lodged against themselves.

    I suggest, instead, claiming, long and loud and persistently, “anti American.” Because that is what it is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_5iOYsHFQ

    Alison Weir revealed the agenda of Louis Brandeis — his loyalties were for the zionist project/Israel. That’s anti-American, inasmuch as Brandeis embroiled USA in a war for the benefit of the zionist project. Jeffrey Rosen, director of the US Center for the Constitution (!), proclaims Brandeis to be his “hero,” because Brandeis, “more than anyone else, got the Balfour agreement and a homeland for Jews in Palestine.” https://www.c-span.org/video/?412902-7/jeffrey-rosen-national-constitution-center

    http://www.unz.com/article/review-against-our-better-judgment/

    That’s so very charming, Messrs Rosen & Brandeis, but both of you were/are on the payroll of the USA, paid by US taxpayers to advance their interests, not Israel’s.

    That is what America First means, and Brandeis & Rosen acted un-Americanly.

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  59. HdC says:
    @FKA Max
    Professor MacDonald's research is confirmed by two indexes:

    Bloomberg Innovation Index

    Nordic nations dominate the top 15, while South Korea reigns supreme and Russia is dealt a huge blow

    There’s something about those Nordic countries.

    In the battle of ideas, Sweden climbed to No. 2 and Finland cracked into the top five of the 2017 Bloomberg Innovation Index, which scores economies using factors including research and development spending and the concentration of high-tech public companies.
    [...]
    The Swedes themselves promote an atmosphere of great personal ambition — unlike some European neighbors that emphasize the collective — and that’s a boon to innovation, he said.

    “In the culture, people are super individualistic — this means that people have ideas and are very interested in pursuing them in this way in order to become wealthy,” said Henrekson.
     
    - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-17/sweden-gains-south-korea-reigns-as-world-s-most-innovative-economies

    The following ranking of the Bloomberg Innovation Index is from 2015, and countries rise or fall within the ranking from year to year, but the dominance of the historically majority Protestant nations with Northern European-derived populations in the Top 20 is very consistent:

    It is actually eleven (11) historically majority Protestant/Northern European nations in the Top 20; 55% of the list.

    Germany(3rd), Finland(4th), USA(6th), Sweden(7th), UK(10th), Denmark(11th), Canada(12th), Australia(13th), Norway(15th), New Zealand(18th), Netherlands(20th).

    I did not include Switzerland(16th) — even though Switzerland, historically, has been almost 50% Protestant, in particular the innovative cities were predominantly Protestant — because it is not really Northern European
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762852

    Corruption Perceptions Index

    So I think it’s safe to say that Protestantism is the dominant religious expression of the Anglo-Germanic peoples, and only the Anglo-Germanic peoples. And, getting back to the original northern rebellion against southern corruption, the Anglo-Germanic nations remain the gold standard in honesty and transparency.

    Here are top-ranked nations in the 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, with the nations with a historic Protestant majority marked with a (P):

    1. Denmark (P)
    2. Finland (P)
    3. Sweden (P)
    4. New Zealand (P)
    5. Netherlands (P)
    5. Norway (P)
    7. Switzerland (P)
    8. Singapore
    9. Canada (P)
    10. Germany (P)
    10. Luxembourg
    10. United Kingdom (P)
    13. Australia (P)
    13. Iceland (P)
    15. Belgium
    16. Austria
    16. United States (P)
    18. Ireland

    All 17 Anglo-Germanic nations finish in the top 18, with only the honourary Protestants of Singapore breaking their monopoly
     
    - https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/some-very-random-thoughts-on-the-reformation/#comment-130184

    Visualizing Values Mismatch in the European Union
    [...]
    EUROPE’S NORTH-SOUTH DIVIDE—A STUBBORN CHASM

    German sociologist Max Weber. The latter had suggested that Protestant countries in Northern Europe outperformed the rest of the continent because of their superior work ethic, because they were thriftier and because they possessed more effective social capital, that is to say the efficacy of social networks.
    [...]
    Cognitive emotion regulation and psychopathology across cultures: A comparison between six European countries

    overall northern European countries (Germany and Netherlands) made less use of strategies such as rumination, catastrophizing, and other-blame, when compared to southern and eastern European countries (Spain, Italy, Portugal, and Hungary).
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-did-the-eu-become-europhobic/#comment-1707368

    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.

    In my limited observation in a working life of more than 50 years, I came to the conclusion that the so-called Protestant work ethic is nonsense.

    Good management, leadership, combined with good tools and training, plus personal responsibility, are what makes the for a productive and inventive society. HdC

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    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.
     
    I know what you are saying, and I have heard this argument before.

    Both Hamburg and Bremen, which are German states ('Stadtstaaten'), have higher GDPs than Bavaria. Hesse also has a comparable GDP to Bavaria. All three states have been predominantly Protestant:


    Bavaria 2 549.190 18.1 43,092 [GDP per capita in Euro]

    Hamburg 9 109.271 3.6 61,729

    Bremen 16 31.590 1.0 47,603

    Hesse 4 263.444 8.7 43,073

    Baden-Württemberg [37% Catholic; 33% Protestant] 3 460.687 15.2 42,745
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_GDP

    In 2013 Christianity was the most widespread religion in the state (67%).[16] 40% of the Hessians belonged to the Protestant Church in Hesse and Nassau or Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck (members of the Evangelical Church in Germany), 25% adhered to the Roman Catholic Church, while other Christians constituted some 2%.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse#Religion

    Northern and most of central Württemberg has been traditionally Protestant (particularly Lutheran) since the Reformation in 1534 (with its centre at the famous Tübinger Stift). The former Electorate of the Palatinate (Northwestern Baden) with its capital Heidelberg was shaped by Calvinism before being integrated into Baden. Upper Swabia, and the Upper Neckar Valley up to the bishop seat of Rottenburg, and Southern Baden (the Catholic archbishop has its seat in Freiburg) have traditionally been bastions of Roman Catholicism.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg#Religion

    Eastern German states -- which are predominantly irreligious nowadays-- are still recovering from 40 years of Soviet occupation.

    Siemens, for example, which is today still mainly headquartered in Munich, Bavaria was founded and headquartered in Berlin prior to Soviet occupation. Bavaria benefited from many companies (see Allianz below) originally founded and headquartered in and around the capital Berlin transferring their headquarters to western Germany cities, chiefly to Munich, after World War II:

    Siemens continued to be run as a whole, retaining its original sectors, and the “unity of the company” was preserved. At the same time it was agreed that the headquarters of Siemens & Halske AG would be transfered as of April 1 that year to Munich, and those of Siemens-Schuckertwerke AG to Erlangen. With this the Starnberg peace finally spelled the end of Berlin as the headquarters. In spite of the objections and protests from the works council, workforce and city administration in Berlin, the traditional location remained as the second headquarters. Even the establishment of a “Zentrale Berliner Leitung” (central Berlin administration) did nothing to alter the company’s integration into the west part of Germany and its function was in effect primarily representational.

    Looking back, Ernst von Siemens summarized the controversies in the years 1945 to 1949 as follows: “From a standpoint of tradition, Berlin was the clear choice for the headquarters. But what is tradition? It is all too often confused with habit. In this case, we had to create something new from the spirit of the old. Berlin’s isolated location made it an unacceptable location for the company headquarters. It was not an easy decision, but based on the situation, it was the only right one.”
     
    - https://www.siemens.com/history/en/news/1236_company-headquarters.htm

    During World War II the Berlin headquarters of Allianz were destroyed by Allied bombing runs.[15] Following the end of the war in 1945, Hans Heb became head of the company, and Allianz shifted its headquarters to Munich in 1949 due to the split between East and West Germany.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianz#20th_century_developments

    I think my hypothesis still stands.
  60. FKA Max says:
    @HdC
    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.

    In my limited observation in a working life of more than 50 years, I came to the conclusion that the so-called Protestant work ethic is nonsense.

    Good management, leadership, combined with good tools and training, plus personal responsibility, are what makes the for a productive and inventive society. HdC

    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.

    I know what you are saying, and I have heard this argument before.

    Both Hamburg and Bremen, which are German states (‘Stadtstaaten’), have higher GDPs than Bavaria. Hesse also has a comparable GDP to Bavaria. All three states have been predominantly Protestant:

    Bavaria 2 549.190 18.1 43,092 [GDP per capita in Euro]

    Hamburg 9 109.271 3.6 61,729

    Bremen 16 31.590 1.0 47,603

    Hesse 4 263.444 8.7 43,073

    Baden-Württemberg [37% Catholic; 33% Protestant] 3 460.687 15.2 42,745

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_GDP

    In 2013 Christianity was the most widespread religion in the state (67%).[16] 40% of the Hessians belonged to the Protestant Church in Hesse and Nassau or Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck (members of the Evangelical Church in Germany), 25% adhered to the Roman Catholic Church, while other Christians constituted some 2%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse#Religion

    Northern and most of central Württemberg has been traditionally Protestant (particularly Lutheran) since the Reformation in 1534 (with its centre at the famous Tübinger Stift). The former Electorate of the Palatinate (Northwestern Baden) with its capital Heidelberg was shaped by Calvinism before being integrated into Baden. Upper Swabia, and the Upper Neckar Valley up to the bishop seat of Rottenburg, and Southern Baden (the Catholic archbishop has its seat in Freiburg) have traditionally been bastions of Roman Catholicism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg#Religion

    Eastern German states — which are predominantly irreligious nowadays– are still recovering from 40 years of Soviet occupation.

    Siemens, for example, which is today still mainly headquartered in Munich, Bavaria was founded and headquartered in Berlin prior to Soviet occupation. Bavaria benefited from many companies (see Allianz below) originally founded and headquartered in and around the capital Berlin transferring their headquarters to western Germany cities, chiefly to Munich, after World War II:

    Siemens continued to be run as a whole, retaining its original sectors, and the “unity of the company” was preserved. At the same time it was agreed that the headquarters of Siemens & Halske AG would be transfered as of April 1 that year to Munich, and those of Siemens-Schuckertwerke AG to Erlangen. With this the Starnberg peace finally spelled the end of Berlin as the headquarters. In spite of the objections and protests from the works council, workforce and city administration in Berlin, the traditional location remained as the second headquarters. Even the establishment of a “Zentrale Berliner Leitung” (central Berlin administration) did nothing to alter the company’s integration into the west part of Germany and its function was in effect primarily representational.

    Looking back, Ernst von Siemens summarized the controversies in the years 1945 to 1949 as follows: “From a standpoint of tradition, Berlin was the clear choice for the headquarters. But what is tradition? It is all too often confused with habit. In this case, we had to create something new from the spirit of the old. Berlin’s isolated location made it an unacceptable location for the company headquarters. It was not an easy decision, but based on the situation, it was the only right one.”

    https://www.siemens.com/history/en/news/1236_company-headquarters.htm

    During World War II the Berlin headquarters of Allianz were destroyed by Allied bombing runs.[15] Following the end of the war in 1945, Hans Heb became head of the company, and Allianz shifted its headquarters to Munich in 1949 due to the split between East and West Germany.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianz#20th_century_developments

    I think my hypothesis still stands.

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    "Protestant work ethic" is your premise I commented on and challenged.

    By tossing in City States you are comparing apples with oranges and defeating your own argument.

    I submit that any large city is more productive than the more diffuse population in the derogatorically called hinterland or fly-over country, and this has very little to do with the population's religious affiliation.

    Hong Kong springs to mind. HdC
  61. HdC says:
    @FKA Max

    Only one small fly in your ointment: The most productive (richest?) federal state in Germany is Bavaria, which happens to be predominantly Roman Catholic.
     
    I know what you are saying, and I have heard this argument before.

    Both Hamburg and Bremen, which are German states ('Stadtstaaten'), have higher GDPs than Bavaria. Hesse also has a comparable GDP to Bavaria. All three states have been predominantly Protestant:


    Bavaria 2 549.190 18.1 43,092 [GDP per capita in Euro]

    Hamburg 9 109.271 3.6 61,729

    Bremen 16 31.590 1.0 47,603

    Hesse 4 263.444 8.7 43,073

    Baden-Württemberg [37% Catholic; 33% Protestant] 3 460.687 15.2 42,745
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_GDP

    In 2013 Christianity was the most widespread religion in the state (67%).[16] 40% of the Hessians belonged to the Protestant Church in Hesse and Nassau or Evangelical Church of Hesse Electorate-Waldeck (members of the Evangelical Church in Germany), 25% adhered to the Roman Catholic Church, while other Christians constituted some 2%.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse#Religion

    Northern and most of central Württemberg has been traditionally Protestant (particularly Lutheran) since the Reformation in 1534 (with its centre at the famous Tübinger Stift). The former Electorate of the Palatinate (Northwestern Baden) with its capital Heidelberg was shaped by Calvinism before being integrated into Baden. Upper Swabia, and the Upper Neckar Valley up to the bishop seat of Rottenburg, and Southern Baden (the Catholic archbishop has its seat in Freiburg) have traditionally been bastions of Roman Catholicism.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg#Religion

    Eastern German states -- which are predominantly irreligious nowadays-- are still recovering from 40 years of Soviet occupation.

    Siemens, for example, which is today still mainly headquartered in Munich, Bavaria was founded and headquartered in Berlin prior to Soviet occupation. Bavaria benefited from many companies (see Allianz below) originally founded and headquartered in and around the capital Berlin transferring their headquarters to western Germany cities, chiefly to Munich, after World War II:

    Siemens continued to be run as a whole, retaining its original sectors, and the “unity of the company” was preserved. At the same time it was agreed that the headquarters of Siemens & Halske AG would be transfered as of April 1 that year to Munich, and those of Siemens-Schuckertwerke AG to Erlangen. With this the Starnberg peace finally spelled the end of Berlin as the headquarters. In spite of the objections and protests from the works council, workforce and city administration in Berlin, the traditional location remained as the second headquarters. Even the establishment of a “Zentrale Berliner Leitung” (central Berlin administration) did nothing to alter the company’s integration into the west part of Germany and its function was in effect primarily representational.

    Looking back, Ernst von Siemens summarized the controversies in the years 1945 to 1949 as follows: “From a standpoint of tradition, Berlin was the clear choice for the headquarters. But what is tradition? It is all too often confused with habit. In this case, we had to create something new from the spirit of the old. Berlin’s isolated location made it an unacceptable location for the company headquarters. It was not an easy decision, but based on the situation, it was the only right one.”
     
    - https://www.siemens.com/history/en/news/1236_company-headquarters.htm

    During World War II the Berlin headquarters of Allianz were destroyed by Allied bombing runs.[15] Following the end of the war in 1945, Hans Heb became head of the company, and Allianz shifted its headquarters to Munich in 1949 due to the split between East and West Germany.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianz#20th_century_developments

    I think my hypothesis still stands.

    “Protestant work ethic” is your premise I commented on and challenged.

    By tossing in City States you are comparing apples with oranges and defeating your own argument.

    I submit that any large city is more productive than the more diffuse population in the derogatorically called hinterland or fly-over country, and this has very little to do with the population’s religious affiliation.

    Hong Kong springs to mind. HdC

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    3 Asian countries: [South] Korea (1st), Japan(2nd), Singapore(8th) (all of whom have strong ties with the [Protestant] West). [...] In the Top 20 there are eleven (11) European countries, three (3) Asian countries, and five (5) Anglosphere countries.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762645

    Interestingly, Protestants are South Korea’s largest religious group [...]
    There are approximately 13.5 million Christians in South Korea today; about two thirds of them belonging to Protestant churches,
    [...]
    Quite a few Protestants in Singapore as well [...]
    In 2010, about 38.5% of the country’s Christians identified as Catholic and 61.5% as ‘Other Christians’ (chiefly Protestants).[2] [...] Christianity was introduced to Singapore by Anglican British colonists.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1763010

    Do you seriously believe that 150 years of British/Protestant rule and cultural influence had no effect and impact on the work ethic, habits, and productivity of the people of Hong Kong?

    Christianity has been one of the most influenced religion in Hong Kong, due to the period of Hong Kong under British Crown rule from 1841 to 1997, as Christianity is the main religion of the United Kingdom. Christianity, especially the Anglican church, had been given special privilege by the British colonial government.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Hong_Kong#Christianity

    Bavaria was ruled by the Protestant Prussians as well for many decades, and I am certain it/they had a significant impact on the population, culture, work ethic, etc.:

    When Bavaria became part of the newly formed German Empire, this action was considered controversial by Bavarian nationalists who had wanted to retain independence. As Bavaria had a majority-Catholic population, many people resented being ruled by the mostly Protestant northerners of Prussia.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria#As_a_part_of_the_German_Empire

    The less Protestant/Northern European and more Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc. the U.S. becomes, the less industrious and rich it will be… [...]
    Prussian virtues (German: preußische Tugenden) refers to the virtues associated with the historical kingdom of Prussia, especially its militarism and the ethical code of the Prussian army, but also bourgeois values as influenced by Lutheranism and Calvinism. It has also significantly influenced wider German culture, such as the contemporary German stereotypes of efficiency, austerity and discipline.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1710969

    I am pretty certain my comment was mostly pertaining to the state of the U.S. economy and the possible/probable cause of its decline; namely the shifting and changing religious and ethnic U.S. demographic make-up.

    I merely gave the example of Prussia and Prussians as a state and a people, whose mores were partly or even significantly influenced by Protestant theology, and I believe the same thing can be said and can be observed about Americans.
    [...]
    If you believe “Prussian Virtues(/Pride)” play no role whatsoever in (modern) Germany and in its economic success, etc., you most certainly do not know anything about (modern) Germany
     
    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337
    , @Wizard of Oz
    If you are rejecting the contrast between the work ethic in say Spain or 19th century Catholic Poland and the "Protestant Ethic" of which Weber and Tawney wrote have you a comment to make about their theses in, respectively, "Die Protestattische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus" and "Religion and the Rise of Capitalism". I haven't read them since I was 17 and writing an essay for a prize but didtinctly remember being pleased that I did not belong to the tradition of Calvin or John Knox, who, with the Pilgrim Fathers, I remember as the great workaholics. What also struck me was was the lack of logic in those Protestants who believed in predestination striving by their works to prove that they were alresdy amonst the elect while Catholics and others believed that good works might earn them salvation but apparently werent thereby motivated to economic success which would have enabled them to earn a great deal of celestial credit. (Perhaps, as Luther may have divined, the old Church was so deeply mired in the corruption of indulgences for money that cynical shortcuts was all it inspired).
  62. FKA Max says:
    @HdC
    "Protestant work ethic" is your premise I commented on and challenged.

    By tossing in City States you are comparing apples with oranges and defeating your own argument.

    I submit that any large city is more productive than the more diffuse population in the derogatorically called hinterland or fly-over country, and this has very little to do with the population's religious affiliation.

    Hong Kong springs to mind. HdC

    3 Asian countries: [South] Korea (1st), Japan(2nd), Singapore(8th) (all of whom have strong ties with the [Protestant] West). [...] In the Top 20 there are eleven (11) European countries, three (3) Asian countries, and five (5) Anglosphere countries.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762645

    Interestingly, Protestants are South Korea’s largest religious group [...]
    There are approximately 13.5 million Christians in South Korea today; about two thirds of them belonging to Protestant churches,
    [...]
    Quite a few Protestants in Singapore as well [...]
    In 2010, about 38.5% of the country’s Christians identified as Catholic and 61.5% as ‘Other Christians’ (chiefly Protestants).[2] [...] Christianity was introduced to Singapore by Anglican British colonists.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1763010

    Do you seriously believe that 150 years of British/Protestant rule and cultural influence had no effect and impact on the work ethic, habits, and productivity of the people of Hong Kong?

    Christianity has been one of the most influenced religion in Hong Kong, due to the period of Hong Kong under British Crown rule from 1841 to 1997, as Christianity is the main religion of the United Kingdom. Christianity, especially the Anglican church, had been given special privilege by the British colonial government.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Hong_Kong#Christianity

    Bavaria was ruled by the Protestant Prussians as well for many decades, and I am certain it/they had a significant impact on the population, culture, work ethic, etc.:

    [MORE]

    When Bavaria became part of the newly formed German Empire, this action was considered controversial by Bavarian nationalists who had wanted to retain independence. As Bavaria had a majority-Catholic population, many people resented being ruled by the mostly Protestant northerners of Prussia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria#As_a_part_of_the_German_Empire

    The less Protestant/Northern European and more Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc. the U.S. becomes, the less industrious and rich it will be… [...]
    Prussian virtues (German: preußische Tugenden) refers to the virtues associated with the historical kingdom of Prussia, especially its militarism and the ethical code of the Prussian army, but also bourgeois values as influenced by Lutheranism and Calvinism. It has also significantly influenced wider German culture, such as the contemporary German stereotypes of efficiency, austerity and discipline.

    http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1710969

    I am pretty certain my comment was mostly pertaining to the state of the U.S. economy and the possible/probable cause of its decline; namely the shifting and changing religious and ethnic U.S. demographic make-up.

    I merely gave the example of Prussia and Prussians as a state and a people, whose mores were partly or even significantly influenced by Protestant theology, and I believe the same thing can be said and can be observed about Americans.
    [...]
    If you believe “Prussian Virtues(/Pride)” play no role whatsoever in (modern) Germany and in its economic success, etc., you most certainly do not know anything about (modern) Germany

    http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337

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    Careful with your last accusation about not knowing anything about...

    You mentioned Prussian Militarism? Why? Militaristic compared to whom? The French, British?

    Using your criterion, why not talk about a Jewish Work Ethic, since their perceived accomplishments, and riches, are definitely above the norm. Something to strive for? HdC
  63. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max

    associating Donald Trump with the Alt Right and Professor MacDonald was deemed highly ineffectual by the Clinton camp, since the Alt Right have been so effectual in supplying the Trump camp with talking points, that resonate with the historic American people and electorate
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/claremonts-codevilla-on-the-coming-revolution-americans-will-be-nostalgic-for-donald-trumps-moderation/#comment-1614314
    "

    ”50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.” – http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

    A similar foolishness Republicans/Conservatives peddle/believe, is around abortion and contraception. Populist Republicans/Trumpists/The Catholic Bannon-Milo Crew want to put a stop to immigration, because they, rightly, say, that Democrats use immigration to import more Democrat voters into the country; but then they turn around and oppose Planned Parenthood and want to ban abortion, etc., when high birth rates among African-Americans and Latino-Americans, who overwhelmingly vote Democrat, has the exact same effect; an increase in the number of Democrat voters. Their policy is probably even worse and more dysgenic, because lower IQ persons usually have more children on average, if they are not provided or cannot afford contraceptives.

    Return on Investment: A Fuller Assessment
    of the Benefits and Cost Savings of the US
    Publicly Funded Family Planning Program

    ”This investment resulted in net government savings of $13.6 billion
    in 2010, or $7.09 for every public dollar spent.”

     
    – https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/journals/MQ-Frost_1468-0009.12080.pdf

    Fools, indeed.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/rpaul/will-congress-stop-forcing-pro-life-americans-to-subsidize-abortion/#comment-1768692

    The more Trump surrounds himself with conservatives and the less with Alt Righters, the higher the probability his presidency will be a failure.

    I covered this point in my earlier op ed piece, A Trump Attack On Planned Parenthood Would Be Strategic Madness.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/refugees-demand-to-be-ruled-by-literally-hitler/#comment-1744912

    The Alt Right and its ideas will continue on long after Donald Trump has left office. If he wants to leave a lasting legacy based on science and common sense ( ``common sense conservatism'' how he referred to it himself during the campaign) he will have to adopt reality-based Alt Right ideas/policies and employ (more) Alt Right personnel and advisors.

    Bannon on the evidence is actually a civic nationalist who has specifically denounced racism and, if anything, is showing troubling signs of moving towards the “DemsRRealRacist”- style talking points which led Conservatism Inc. to disaster.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-empire-strikes-back-the-msms-3-point-plan-to-recapture-the-narrative/#comment-1673513

    Margaret Sanger Never Said She Wanted to “Exterminate Blacks”

    Hear about the birth control movement from an Alt-Right perspective.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jswvL36w2-M

    I personally believe, after much research, that the biggest threat to the sovereignty of the United States comes from the Vatican/Roman Catholicism, whereas the biggest threat to Europe comes from Mecca/Islam. [...] Jeb Bush’s conversion to Roman Catholicism is a perfect example of what Conservatism Inc. is really about
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1624652

    Why is the American press grossly under reporting on the most significant issues of our time, i.e.: the relationship between the pope’s demand for open U.S. borders and the fact that 90% of immigrants are Roman Catholics;
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/#comment-1757277

    Following below, an excerpt from a great column by Hunter Wallace aka Brad Griffin [ http://www.unz.com/author/brad-griffin/ ], who has been one of the most prolific and insightful writers on the Alt Right in the last couple of months. Thanks very much for featuring him and Professor MacDonald on the Unz Review!

    The most Righteous one of them all, in my opinion, is Mr. Ron Unz.

    He published Professor MacDonald twice before the election. That takes guts!

    http://www.unz.com/pgottfried/yes-virginia-dare-there-are-righteous-jews-for-trump/#comment-1642432

    This has never been about Left/Liberals/Democrats versus Right/Conservatives/Republicans, in my opinion; this struggle always has been and will continue to be about the Alt Right versus the Establishment.

    Rupert Murdoch’s Heat Street is attacking the Unz Review, Vdare.com and Mr. Sailer.
    [...]
    In 2016 wikileaks revealed that despite it’s claims of conservative ideology the editor of [Heat Street] Louise Mensch secretly created advertising for liberal democrat Hillary Clinton during her failed run for President of the United States. Mensch has threatened to sue the journalists at wikileaks for revealing her support of Clinton publicly.[9]

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-long-election-stage-two/#comment-1659662

    Cuckservatives: CPAC Chairman Condemns The Alt-Right

    MILO is a mainstream conservative. He works within the conservative movement. He was invited to be the keynote speaker at CPAC. He has a platform at Breitbart. All the Dangerous Faggot ever did to earn the “Alt-Right” label was write a single article about us that was somewhat objective. He got some important things wrong about his subject, but that article wasn’t the usual breathless hysteria. That was his unforgivable crime that has earned him so much ill will from the media.

    We’re the real Alt-Right. I’ve never been to CPAC. I have no interest in going there either. I’m not a conservative. I don’t want to be identified with “conservatism” which I associate with pearl-clutching weaklings like Cuck David French.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/02/22/cuckservatives-cpac-chairman-condemns-the-alt-right/

    How Alexis de Tocqueville predicted the alt-right — almost 200 years ago
    There is a very clear boundary between prescribed virtue and proscribed vice. Indeed, the health and safety police need that boundary to police, even if they have to prove that it keeps creeping forward with ever smaller steps. Inside the boundary, life is kept rigorously rational, scripted, risk-averse, sanitized, clean, and secure. But there will always be a misfit remnant beyond the gates, impulsive, unscripted, risk-begging, filthy, coarse, and dangerous.
    Ladies and gentlemen, this is the alt-right.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/how-dumb-do-we-have-to-be-to-let-the-clintons-win-the-white-house-twice-in-one-lifetime-over-sexual-harassment/#comment-1610075

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  64. HdC says:
    @FKA Max

    3 Asian countries: [South] Korea (1st), Japan(2nd), Singapore(8th) (all of whom have strong ties with the [Protestant] West). [...] In the Top 20 there are eleven (11) European countries, three (3) Asian countries, and five (5) Anglosphere countries.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1762645

    Interestingly, Protestants are South Korea’s largest religious group [...]
    There are approximately 13.5 million Christians in South Korea today; about two thirds of them belonging to Protestant churches,
    [...]
    Quite a few Protestants in Singapore as well [...]
    In 2010, about 38.5% of the country’s Christians identified as Catholic and 61.5% as ‘Other Christians’ (chiefly Protestants).[2] [...] Christianity was introduced to Singapore by Anglican British colonists.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/everything-about-sat-math-racial-gaps-has-changed-since-1972/#comment-1763010

    Do you seriously believe that 150 years of British/Protestant rule and cultural influence had no effect and impact on the work ethic, habits, and productivity of the people of Hong Kong?

    Christianity has been one of the most influenced religion in Hong Kong, due to the period of Hong Kong under British Crown rule from 1841 to 1997, as Christianity is the main religion of the United Kingdom. Christianity, especially the Anglican church, had been given special privilege by the British colonial government.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Hong_Kong#Christianity

    Bavaria was ruled by the Protestant Prussians as well for many decades, and I am certain it/they had a significant impact on the population, culture, work ethic, etc.:

    When Bavaria became part of the newly formed German Empire, this action was considered controversial by Bavarian nationalists who had wanted to retain independence. As Bavaria had a majority-Catholic population, many people resented being ruled by the mostly Protestant northerners of Prussia.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria#As_a_part_of_the_German_Empire

    The less Protestant/Northern European and more Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc. the U.S. becomes, the less industrious and rich it will be… [...]
    Prussian virtues (German: preußische Tugenden) refers to the virtues associated with the historical kingdom of Prussia, especially its militarism and the ethical code of the Prussian army, but also bourgeois values as influenced by Lutheranism and Calvinism. It has also significantly influenced wider German culture, such as the contemporary German stereotypes of efficiency, austerity and discipline.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1710969

    I am pretty certain my comment was mostly pertaining to the state of the U.S. economy and the possible/probable cause of its decline; namely the shifting and changing religious and ethnic U.S. demographic make-up.

    I merely gave the example of Prussia and Prussians as a state and a people, whose mores were partly or even significantly influenced by Protestant theology, and I believe the same thing can be said and can be observed about Americans.
    [...]
    If you believe “Prussian Virtues(/Pride)” play no role whatsoever in (modern) Germany and in its economic success, etc., you most certainly do not know anything about (modern) Germany
     
    - http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-reason-the-fed-is-raising-rates-and-why-it-wont-work/#comment-1714337

    Careful with your last accusation about not knowing anything about…

    You mentioned Prussian Militarism? Why? Militaristic compared to whom? The French, British?

    Using your criterion, why not talk about a Jewish Work Ethic, since their perceived accomplishments, and riches, are definitely above the norm. Something to strive for? HdC

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    Long comment (even for my standards)

    I wasn't accusing you of anything in that post (yet)... if you had followed the link I provided you would have understood the context of that quote (not directed towards you); that I was accusing somebody else of this, after he had hurled that accusation at me for no apparent reason. I merely quoted this passage, because I deemed it important to this discussion. My apologies for the misunderstanding and the lack of clarification/clarity on my part that this specific accusation was not directed towards you.

    Nevertheless, you are taking things I say out of context, again, which makes me wonder if you are arguing in good faith and with full sincerity? Earlier you were accusing me of distorting things by bringing up the rich, Protestant, northern German city-states -- which could be a valid point -- but you ignored that I also gave examples of historically predominantly Protestant non-city states with very high per capita GDPs, e.g. Hesse. You also completely, and I guess conveniently, ignored my (main) point of big, innovative German companies, e.g. Siemens et al., moving and relocating their headquarters and production facilities from their traditional Protestant Prussian home turf to Catholic Bavaria, etc., due to Soviet occupation of that area after World War II.

    This time you bring up and focus on my supposed focus on Prussian militarism!?, when I specifically emphasized and highlighted the parts of the passage/quote that had to do with Prussian Protestantism, not Prussian militarism. Prussian militarism was just part of that sentence and not my focus. I did not want to chop up the sentence in order to maintain its full context, etc.; so I quoted it in its entirety. It seems kind of disingenuous of you to ask why and say that I specifically brought up Prussian militarism, which I did not do or intend to do.

    But while we are at it...

    Your point that other countries have long and strong military histories and cultures as well (if I understood you correctly; you were a bit vague), and that this is not unique to the Prussians is correct, but this is actually my entire argument, that what made the Prussians and other Protestants like the British and now the Americans so unique and arguably so successful militarily, etc., is that their militarism and economy was coupled with a Protestant work ethic/culture, which made them highly innovative, efficient, disciplined and, I believe, less corrupt than non-Protestant nations' militaries and economies, which allowed and allows them to punch above their weight:

    During the interwar era, German officers contemplated how to apply maneuver warfare after the experiences of the Great War. Innovations in armor and air were adopted to the war of movement, resulting in the doctrine of Blitzkrieg. [...]
    Since the 17th century, the army of Brandenburg-Prussia was characterized by its initiative, maneuverability, and aggressive command at the operational level of war. The Hohenzollern state often had fewer resources and manpower than its rivals, and thus the Prussians focused on quickly achieving a decisive victory to avoid a war of attrition.[75]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Army#Imperial_Germany

    One could say, that this was/is a precursor to the American ``Shock and Awe'' military doctrine:

    Blitzkrieg: The "intent was to apply precise, surgical amounts of tightly focused force to achieve maximum leverage but with total economies of scale."
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe#Historical_applications

    Your last point is actually a good one and an interesting question.

    There are quite a few parallels between Jews and Huguenots (French Protestants, some of whom fled France and settled in the Protestant parts of Europe -- including Prussia --, North America, etc.):

    Throughout the centuries our Jewish ancestors has inadvertently crossed paths with another specific cultural and religious group, the Huguenots. The Huguenots were French Protestantswho were members of the Reformed Church, which was established in 1550 by John Calvin. Like the Jews, the past Huguenots suffered extreme prejudice and were persecuted because of their cultural and religious beliefs. They were forced to flee their native France, many settling and creating their own communities in countries across the world, including, Holland, England, America and South Africa. They had their own language, dialect, places of worship and general trades. Both Jews and Huguenots believe they are the direct decendants of the twelve tribes of ancient Israel. To anyone outside these cultures the appearance and customs of a Huguenot and a Jew would have seemed the same and because of indifference and prejudice the majority communities would probably had not made a any distinctions between the two groups. They wore similar attire, they spoke with a strange colloquial accent different from that of the native speaking populations of the host countries and shared the same first names and surnames such as Jacob, Salomon, Sasine, Sasiene, Saseen and Sass.

    Our Jewish ancestors and the Huguenots would have lived and worked in the
    same neighbourhoods, although probably within their different communities.
     
    - http://sassienie.com/archivelinks/Who%20were%20the%20Huguenots.pdf

    I find it curious, and I don't believe that it is entirely coincidental, that two of the main critics of the centralized power of the European Union, multiculturalism, and Muslim mass immigration into Europe, Thilo Sarrazin and Nigel Farage, both have Huguenot ancestors:


    Sarrazin was born in Gera, Germany. His father was a doctor and his mother was the daughter of a West Prussian landowner. His paternal ancestors were French Huguenots who originated in Burgundy, while his grandmother was English and another ancestor was Italian.[5]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin#Early_life

    The Farage name comes from a distant Huguenot ancestor.[19] One of his great-grandfathers was born to German parents who migrated to London in the 19th century.[20]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Early_life.2C_education_and_early_career


    The Jewish Question is a complicated matter, which I have written on at length and researched in depth. I can't go into all the details, but I think Jewish ethnic networking and nepotism coupled with an above-average verbal IQ and other genetic predispositions (see details below) is one of the explanations for their great financial, academic, etc. success. I do not begrudge them their success, but I think they are often taking it too far and that causes understandable backlashes and resentments from the native populations, that host them. You don't find this with Huguenots, in my experience, they (naturally) integrate more easily and more willingly into their (Protestant) host cultures and countries.

    So, Jewish culture should not be entirely emulated, in my opinion, if that makes sense.

    I think many Jews cannot help themselves and are naturally very ambitious and competitive, because their drive for domination and striving towards material success is somewhat genetically hardwired into (many of) them:

    Jews and the Chinese seem to be equally ambitious and competitive, some might even call it cunning. Interestingly, the two groups/races seem to have comparable IQs and seem to be carrying the low-activity 3-repeat MAOA allele at very similar rates:
    Jews (2R 1.3%; 3R 62%) carry low-activity MAOA at much higher rates than Whites (2R 0.2%; 3R 36%) [...]
    Low-activity MAOA is associated with higher levels of aggressiveness and risk-taking
     
    - http://www.unz.com/freed/iq-a-skeptics-view/#comment-1730862

    Due to that, I don't believe, it is entirely healthy, that Jews dominate important and large parts of elite higher education in the United States:

    I had always been well aware of the very heavy Jewish presence at elite academic institutions. But the underwhelming percentage of Jewish students who today achieve high scores on academic aptitude tests was totally unexpected, and very different from the impressions I had formed during my own high school and college years a generation or so ago. [...]
    The rest of the Ivy League tends to follow a similar pattern, with the overall Jewish ratio being 381 percent, the Asian figure at 62 percent, and the ratio for non-Jewish whites a low 35 percent, all relative to their number of high-ability college-age students.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    Jews are represented at elite education institutions so heavily that there is even ``anti-semitism'' among Jews themselves, which I find somewhat comical. No one seems to know anymore what is/defines a ``real'' anti-semite these days...

    Anti-Semitic Slurs Mar Game at Top Private School

    Clarifying Article Appended

    Basketball fans from the Trinity School, one of New York City's elite private schools, chanted anti-Semitic slurs at a player from the rival Dalton School at a recent game, taunting him with references to gefilte fish, yarmulkes and other Jewish foods and customs. [...]

    One of the Trinity students involved in the incident, who was disciplined by the school this week -- and who is himself Jewish -- said in an interview yesterday that he and a friend had made three Jewish references during the basketball game: they had called a turnover a ''passover,'' termed a shot ''not kosher'' and said, after a basket, ''Dalton scored; light the menorah.'' [...]

    In Internet postings on the incident, and in e-mail messages and conversations, Jewish Trinity families said there was no anti-Semitism at Trinity, where a survey two years ago found that 51 percent of the students had at least one Jewish parent.
     
    - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/nyregion/anti-semitic-slurs-mar-game-at-top-private-school.html

    John Maynard Keynes described the Jewish character and explained Jewish influence (on Europe/the West) in an interesting way:

    Keynes had this idea that Jews had brought the idea of longing for immortality to Pagan Europe. He saw that longing as positive but felt that many Jews distorted it into a longing for money. He thought that the Jews influenced the rest of Europe to love money too much and that had ruined much of European civilization. Keynes believed that by 2020, European civilization would have gotten past its Jewish-inspired love of money and would focus on other things.
     
    - http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2009/01/some_problems_with_keynes.html
    , @Sam J.
    I may never say a good thing about Jews the rest of my life but I will say the Jews have an enormous kick ass work ethic. It may be working towards the destruction of everyone around them but they work tremendously hard.
  65. @HdC
    "Protestant work ethic" is your premise I commented on and challenged.

    By tossing in City States you are comparing apples with oranges and defeating your own argument.

    I submit that any large city is more productive than the more diffuse population in the derogatorically called hinterland or fly-over country, and this has very little to do with the population's religious affiliation.

    Hong Kong springs to mind. HdC

    If you are rejecting the contrast between the work ethic in say Spain or 19th century Catholic Poland and the “Protestant Ethic” of which Weber and Tawney wrote have you a comment to make about their theses in, respectively, “Die Protestattische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus” and “Religion and the Rise of Capitalism”. I haven’t read them since I was 17 and writing an essay for a prize but didtinctly remember being pleased that I did not belong to the tradition of Calvin or John Knox, who, with the Pilgrim Fathers, I remember as the great workaholics. What also struck me was was the lack of logic in those Protestants who believed in predestination striving by their works to prove that they were alresdy amonst the elect while Catholics and others believed that good works might earn them salvation but apparently werent thereby motivated to economic success which would have enabled them to earn a great deal of celestial credit. (Perhaps, as Luther may have divined, the old Church was so deeply mired in the corruption of indulgences for money that cynical shortcuts was all it inspired).

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    I have not read the tomes you refer to.

    What is economic success? Has anyone defined this succinctly?

    Professionally I was always fortunate that my bosses were not workaholics and we always flew out on Mondays, returning Fridays at the latest. In over 50 years of working life there was only one exception to this rule, and I resigned my position soon after that.

    Note that today the shine is off workaholics, and balance of working life is the latest mantra...

    Agreed that the Catholic Church was corrupt before and during Luther's times. And I venture my opinion that today its top dogs are a bunch of liars. HdC

  66. FKA Max says:
    @HdC
    Careful with your last accusation about not knowing anything about...

    You mentioned Prussian Militarism? Why? Militaristic compared to whom? The French, British?

    Using your criterion, why not talk about a Jewish Work Ethic, since their perceived accomplishments, and riches, are definitely above the norm. Something to strive for? HdC

    Long comment (even for my standards)

    I wasn’t accusing you of anything in that post (yet)… if you had followed the link I provided you would have understood the context of that quote (not directed towards you); that I was accusing somebody else of this, after he had hurled that accusation at me for no apparent reason. I merely quoted this passage, because I deemed it important to this discussion. My apologies for the misunderstanding and the lack of clarification/clarity on my part that this specific accusation was not directed towards you.

    Nevertheless, you are taking things I say out of context, again, which makes me wonder if you are arguing in good faith and with full sincerity? Earlier you were accusing me of distorting things by bringing up the rich, Protestant, northern German city-states — which could be a valid point — but you ignored that I also gave examples of historically predominantly Protestant non-city states with very high per capita GDPs, e.g. Hesse. You also completely, and I guess conveniently, ignored my (main) point of big, innovative German companies, e.g. Siemens et al., moving and relocating their headquarters and production facilities from their traditional Protestant Prussian home turf to Catholic Bavaria, etc., due to Soviet occupation of that area after World War II.

    This time you bring up and focus on my supposed focus on Prussian militarism!?, when I specifically emphasized and highlighted the parts of the passage/quote that had to do with Prussian Protestantism, not Prussian militarism. Prussian militarism was just part of that sentence and not my focus. I did not want to chop up the sentence in order to maintain its full context, etc.; so I quoted it in its entirety. It seems kind of disingenuous of you to ask why and say that I specifically brought up Prussian militarism, which I did not do or intend to do.

    But while we are at it…

    Your point that other countries have long and strong military histories and cultures as well (if I understood you correctly; you were a bit vague), and that this is not unique to the Prussians is correct, but this is actually my entire argument, that what made the Prussians and other Protestants like the British and now the Americans so unique and arguably so successful militarily, etc., is that their militarism and economy was coupled with a Protestant work ethic/culture, which made them highly innovative, efficient, disciplined and, I believe, less corrupt than non-Protestant nations’ militaries and economies, which allowed and allows them to punch above their weight:

    During the interwar era, German officers contemplated how to apply maneuver warfare after the experiences of the Great War. Innovations in armor and air were adopted to the war of movement, resulting in the doctrine of Blitzkrieg. [...]
    Since the 17th century, the army of Brandenburg-Prussia was characterized by its initiative, maneuverability, and aggressive command at the operational level of war. The Hohenzollern state often had fewer resources and manpower than its rivals, and thus the Prussians focused on quickly achieving a decisive victory to avoid a war of attrition.[75]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Army#Imperial_Germany

    One could say, that this was/is a precursor to the American “Shock and Awe” military doctrine:

    Blitzkrieg: The “intent was to apply precise, surgical amounts of tightly focused force to achieve maximum leverage but with total economies of scale.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe#Historical_applications

    Your last point is actually a good one and an interesting question.

    There are quite a few parallels between Jews and Huguenots (French Protestants, some of whom fled France and settled in the Protestant parts of Europe — including Prussia –, North America, etc.):

    Throughout the centuries our Jewish ancestors has inadvertently crossed paths with another specific cultural and religious group, the Huguenots. The Huguenots were French Protestantswho were members of the Reformed Church, which was established in 1550 by John Calvin. Like the Jews, the past Huguenots suffered extreme prejudice and were persecuted because of their cultural and religious beliefs. They were forced to flee their native France, many settling and creating their own communities in countries across the world, including, Holland, England, America and South Africa. They had their own language, dialect, places of worship and general trades. Both Jews and Huguenots believe they are the direct decendants of the twelve tribes of ancient Israel. To anyone outside these cultures the appearance and customs of a Huguenot and a Jew would have seemed the same and because of indifference and prejudice the majority communities would probably had not made a any distinctions between the two groups. They wore similar attire, they spoke with a strange colloquial accent different from that of the native speaking populations of the host countries and shared the same first names and surnames such as Jacob, Salomon, Sasine, Sasiene, Saseen and Sass.

    Our Jewish ancestors and the Huguenots would have lived and worked in the
    same neighbourhoods, although probably within their different communities.

    http://sassienie.com/archivelinks/Who%20were%20the%20Huguenots.pdf

    I find it curious, and I don’t believe that it is entirely coincidental, that two of the main critics of the centralized power of the European Union, multiculturalism, and Muslim mass immigration into Europe, Thilo Sarrazin and Nigel Farage, both have Huguenot ancestors:

    Sarrazin was born in Gera, Germany. His father was a doctor and his mother was the daughter of a West Prussian landowner. His paternal ancestors were French Huguenots who originated in Burgundy, while his grandmother was English and another ancestor was Italian.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin#Early_life

    The Farage name comes from a distant Huguenot ancestor.[19] One of his great-grandfathers was born to German parents who migrated to London in the 19th century.[20]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Early_life.2C_education_and_early_career

    The Jewish Question is a complicated matter, which I have written on at length and researched in depth. I can’t go into all the details, but I think Jewish ethnic networking and nepotism coupled with an above-average verbal IQ and other genetic predispositions (see details below) is one of the explanations for their great financial, academic, etc. success. I do not begrudge them their success, but I think they are often taking it too far and that causes understandable backlashes and resentments from the native populations, that host them. You don’t find this with Huguenots, in my experience, they (naturally) integrate more easily and more willingly into their (Protestant) host cultures and countries.

    So, Jewish culture should not be entirely emulated, in my opinion, if that makes sense.

    I think many Jews cannot help themselves and are naturally very ambitious and competitive, because their drive for domination and striving towards material success is somewhat genetically hardwired into (many of) them:

    Jews and the Chinese seem to be equally ambitious and competitive, some might even call it cunning. Interestingly, the two groups/races seem to have comparable IQs and seem to be carrying the low-activity 3-repeat MAOA allele at very similar rates:
    Jews (2R 1.3%; 3R 62%) carry low-activity MAOA at much higher rates than Whites (2R 0.2%; 3R 36%) [...]
    Low-activity MAOA is associated with higher levels of aggressiveness and risk-taking

    http://www.unz.com/freed/iq-a-skeptics-view/#comment-1730862

    Due to that, I don’t believe, it is entirely healthy, that Jews dominate important and large parts of elite higher education in the United States:

    I had always been well aware of the very heavy Jewish presence at elite academic institutions. But the underwhelming percentage of Jewish students who today achieve high scores on academic aptitude tests was totally unexpected, and very different from the impressions I had formed during my own high school and college years a generation or so ago. [...]
    The rest of the Ivy League tends to follow a similar pattern, with the overall Jewish ratio being 381 percent, the Asian figure at 62 percent, and the ratio for non-Jewish whites a low 35 percent, all relative to their number of high-ability college-age students.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    Jews are represented at elite education institutions so heavily that there is even “anti-semitism” among Jews themselves, which I find somewhat comical. No one seems to know anymore what is/defines a “real” anti-semite these days…

    Anti-Semitic Slurs Mar Game at Top Private School

    Clarifying Article Appended

    Basketball fans from the Trinity School, one of New York City’s elite private schools, chanted anti-Semitic slurs at a player from the rival Dalton School at a recent game, taunting him with references to gefilte fish, yarmulkes and other Jewish foods and customs. [...]

    One of the Trinity students involved in the incident, who was disciplined by the school this week — and who is himself Jewish — said in an interview yesterday that he and a friend had made three Jewish references during the basketball game: they had called a turnover a ”passover,” termed a shot ”not kosher” and said, after a basket, ”Dalton scored; light the menorah.” [...]

    In Internet postings on the incident, and in e-mail messages and conversations, Jewish Trinity families said there was no anti-Semitism at Trinity, where a survey two years ago found that 51 percent of the students had at least one Jewish parent.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/nyregion/anti-semitic-slurs-mar-game-at-top-private-school.html

    John Maynard Keynes described the Jewish character and explained Jewish influence (on Europe/the West) in an interesting way:

    Keynes had this idea that Jews had brought the idea of longing for immortality to Pagan Europe. He saw that longing as positive but felt that many Jews distorted it into a longing for money. He thought that the Jews influenced the rest of Europe to love money too much and that had ruined much of European civilization. Keynes believed that by 2020, European civilization would have gotten past its Jewish-inspired love of money and would focus on other things.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2009/01/some_problems_with_keynes.html

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    Thanks for your thoughtful reply. My admonition was meant in a friendly way.

    Permit me to clarify a couple of points:

    1) My scribbles/responses are based on what I have read in what I perceived to be credible sources. (what is credible today???)
    2) I am not a student of history, but have read much about Germany during and between the world wars because of the Zuendel trials in Toronto in the 1980's.
    3) My queries are based on personal experiences and observations.

    Professionally I have worked in Quebec, a predominantly Catholic society, and southern Ontario, a predominantly Protestant mish-mash. (Both are provinces of Canada, a huge land mass of a country north of the USA). And based on my working experience in these societies I question the premise of the Protestant work ethic. I also happened to know that at this time the German state of Bavaria is the most prosperous state in that Republic. And that state is predominantly Catholic.

    For reasons you have given, Protestants may give a larger importance to monetary rewards and are willing to put in longer working hours than, say, their Catholic colleagues. Whether the Protestant workers are more effective than their Catholic colleagues is certainly debatable and, based on my observations, not. However, because the state collects its taxes based on income, the longer working hours bring in more tax revenue, on which certain conclusions are based.

    Agreed that one may dig into history to determine why things happened a certain way; however, any such conclusions are likely be controversial.

    The idea of a Jewish Work Ethic I tossed in tongue-in-cheek. Saints preserve us if we ever decided to follow their lead. Collectively Zionists do not know when "enough is enough" and carry on and on until something resists...

    I know that time and time again we are inundated with lists of Jewish achievements, but these achievements were practically always in institutions and businesses founded and staffed by Europeans. Rarely does one hear of such achievements in Israeli owned institutions or businesses. Enough for today. HdC
  67. Interesting article. I wanted to add one thing, though. In regard to Affirmative Action, the private sector doesn’t have to adhere to affirmative action policies. The only institutions that have to do that are those that receive federal dollars or are government institutions and, even then, the regulations don’t REQUIRE that a minority or ethnic individual be hired over a better qualified caucasian person simply to have a minority ethnic individual or quota fulfilled. That generally comes down to internal practice by the hiring personnel of the institution, itself. So, when you see a public university or a fire department taking in less qualified people based SOLELY on identity politics or multiculturalism, blame the institution’s hiring policy. The Affirmative Action standards only require that organization give minorities a fair and equal opportunity.
    Thought you might be interested in a little objectivity.

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  68. HdC says:
    @FKA Max
    Long comment (even for my standards)

    I wasn't accusing you of anything in that post (yet)... if you had followed the link I provided you would have understood the context of that quote (not directed towards you); that I was accusing somebody else of this, after he had hurled that accusation at me for no apparent reason. I merely quoted this passage, because I deemed it important to this discussion. My apologies for the misunderstanding and the lack of clarification/clarity on my part that this specific accusation was not directed towards you.

    Nevertheless, you are taking things I say out of context, again, which makes me wonder if you are arguing in good faith and with full sincerity? Earlier you were accusing me of distorting things by bringing up the rich, Protestant, northern German city-states -- which could be a valid point -- but you ignored that I also gave examples of historically predominantly Protestant non-city states with very high per capita GDPs, e.g. Hesse. You also completely, and I guess conveniently, ignored my (main) point of big, innovative German companies, e.g. Siemens et al., moving and relocating their headquarters and production facilities from their traditional Protestant Prussian home turf to Catholic Bavaria, etc., due to Soviet occupation of that area after World War II.

    This time you bring up and focus on my supposed focus on Prussian militarism!?, when I specifically emphasized and highlighted the parts of the passage/quote that had to do with Prussian Protestantism, not Prussian militarism. Prussian militarism was just part of that sentence and not my focus. I did not want to chop up the sentence in order to maintain its full context, etc.; so I quoted it in its entirety. It seems kind of disingenuous of you to ask why and say that I specifically brought up Prussian militarism, which I did not do or intend to do.

    But while we are at it...

    Your point that other countries have long and strong military histories and cultures as well (if I understood you correctly; you were a bit vague), and that this is not unique to the Prussians is correct, but this is actually my entire argument, that what made the Prussians and other Protestants like the British and now the Americans so unique and arguably so successful militarily, etc., is that their militarism and economy was coupled with a Protestant work ethic/culture, which made them highly innovative, efficient, disciplined and, I believe, less corrupt than non-Protestant nations' militaries and economies, which allowed and allows them to punch above their weight:

    During the interwar era, German officers contemplated how to apply maneuver warfare after the experiences of the Great War. Innovations in armor and air were adopted to the war of movement, resulting in the doctrine of Blitzkrieg. [...]
    Since the 17th century, the army of Brandenburg-Prussia was characterized by its initiative, maneuverability, and aggressive command at the operational level of war. The Hohenzollern state often had fewer resources and manpower than its rivals, and thus the Prussians focused on quickly achieving a decisive victory to avoid a war of attrition.[75]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Army#Imperial_Germany

    One could say, that this was/is a precursor to the American ``Shock and Awe'' military doctrine:

    Blitzkrieg: The "intent was to apply precise, surgical amounts of tightly focused force to achieve maximum leverage but with total economies of scale."
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe#Historical_applications

    Your last point is actually a good one and an interesting question.

    There are quite a few parallels between Jews and Huguenots (French Protestants, some of whom fled France and settled in the Protestant parts of Europe -- including Prussia --, North America, etc.):

    Throughout the centuries our Jewish ancestors has inadvertently crossed paths with another specific cultural and religious group, the Huguenots. The Huguenots were French Protestantswho were members of the Reformed Church, which was established in 1550 by John Calvin. Like the Jews, the past Huguenots suffered extreme prejudice and were persecuted because of their cultural and religious beliefs. They were forced to flee their native France, many settling and creating their own communities in countries across the world, including, Holland, England, America and South Africa. They had their own language, dialect, places of worship and general trades. Both Jews and Huguenots believe they are the direct decendants of the twelve tribes of ancient Israel. To anyone outside these cultures the appearance and customs of a Huguenot and a Jew would have seemed the same and because of indifference and prejudice the majority communities would probably had not made a any distinctions between the two groups. They wore similar attire, they spoke with a strange colloquial accent different from that of the native speaking populations of the host countries and shared the same first names and surnames such as Jacob, Salomon, Sasine, Sasiene, Saseen and Sass.

    Our Jewish ancestors and the Huguenots would have lived and worked in the
    same neighbourhoods, although probably within their different communities.
     
    - http://sassienie.com/archivelinks/Who%20were%20the%20Huguenots.pdf

    I find it curious, and I don't believe that it is entirely coincidental, that two of the main critics of the centralized power of the European Union, multiculturalism, and Muslim mass immigration into Europe, Thilo Sarrazin and Nigel Farage, both have Huguenot ancestors:


    Sarrazin was born in Gera, Germany. His father was a doctor and his mother was the daughter of a West Prussian landowner. His paternal ancestors were French Huguenots who originated in Burgundy, while his grandmother was English and another ancestor was Italian.[5]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin#Early_life

    The Farage name comes from a distant Huguenot ancestor.[19] One of his great-grandfathers was born to German parents who migrated to London in the 19th century.[20]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Early_life.2C_education_and_early_career


    The Jewish Question is a complicated matter, which I have written on at length and researched in depth. I can't go into all the details, but I think Jewish ethnic networking and nepotism coupled with an above-average verbal IQ and other genetic predispositions (see details below) is one of the explanations for their great financial, academic, etc. success. I do not begrudge them their success, but I think they are often taking it too far and that causes understandable backlashes and resentments from the native populations, that host them. You don't find this with Huguenots, in my experience, they (naturally) integrate more easily and more willingly into their (Protestant) host cultures and countries.

    So, Jewish culture should not be entirely emulated, in my opinion, if that makes sense.

    I think many Jews cannot help themselves and are naturally very ambitious and competitive, because their drive for domination and striving towards material success is somewhat genetically hardwired into (many of) them:

    Jews and the Chinese seem to be equally ambitious and competitive, some might even call it cunning. Interestingly, the two groups/races seem to have comparable IQs and seem to be carrying the low-activity 3-repeat MAOA allele at very similar rates:
    Jews (2R 1.3%; 3R 62%) carry low-activity MAOA at much higher rates than Whites (2R 0.2%; 3R 36%) [...]
    Low-activity MAOA is associated with higher levels of aggressiveness and risk-taking
     
    - http://www.unz.com/freed/iq-a-skeptics-view/#comment-1730862

    Due to that, I don't believe, it is entirely healthy, that Jews dominate important and large parts of elite higher education in the United States:

    I had always been well aware of the very heavy Jewish presence at elite academic institutions. But the underwhelming percentage of Jewish students who today achieve high scores on academic aptitude tests was totally unexpected, and very different from the impressions I had formed during my own high school and college years a generation or so ago. [...]
    The rest of the Ivy League tends to follow a similar pattern, with the overall Jewish ratio being 381 percent, the Asian figure at 62 percent, and the ratio for non-Jewish whites a low 35 percent, all relative to their number of high-ability college-age students.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    Jews are represented at elite education institutions so heavily that there is even ``anti-semitism'' among Jews themselves, which I find somewhat comical. No one seems to know anymore what is/defines a ``real'' anti-semite these days...

    Anti-Semitic Slurs Mar Game at Top Private School

    Clarifying Article Appended

    Basketball fans from the Trinity School, one of New York City's elite private schools, chanted anti-Semitic slurs at a player from the rival Dalton School at a recent game, taunting him with references to gefilte fish, yarmulkes and other Jewish foods and customs. [...]

    One of the Trinity students involved in the incident, who was disciplined by the school this week -- and who is himself Jewish -- said in an interview yesterday that he and a friend had made three Jewish references during the basketball game: they had called a turnover a ''passover,'' termed a shot ''not kosher'' and said, after a basket, ''Dalton scored; light the menorah.'' [...]

    In Internet postings on the incident, and in e-mail messages and conversations, Jewish Trinity families said there was no anti-Semitism at Trinity, where a survey two years ago found that 51 percent of the students had at least one Jewish parent.
     
    - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/nyregion/anti-semitic-slurs-mar-game-at-top-private-school.html

    John Maynard Keynes described the Jewish character and explained Jewish influence (on Europe/the West) in an interesting way:

    Keynes had this idea that Jews had brought the idea of longing for immortality to Pagan Europe. He saw that longing as positive but felt that many Jews distorted it into a longing for money. He thought that the Jews influenced the rest of Europe to love money too much and that had ruined much of European civilization. Keynes believed that by 2020, European civilization would have gotten past its Jewish-inspired love of money and would focus on other things.
     
    - http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2009/01/some_problems_with_keynes.html

    Thanks for your thoughtful reply. My admonition was meant in a friendly way.

    Permit me to clarify a couple of points:

    1) My scribbles/responses are based on what I have read in what I perceived to be credible sources. (what is credible today???)
    2) I am not a student of history, but have read much about Germany during and between the world wars because of the Zuendel trials in Toronto in the 1980′s.
    3) My queries are based on personal experiences and observations.

    Professionally I have worked in Quebec, a predominantly Catholic society, and southern Ontario, a predominantly Protestant mish-mash. (Both are provinces of Canada, a huge land mass of a country north of the USA). And based on my working experience in these societies I question the premise of the Protestant work ethic. I also happened to know that at this time the German state of Bavaria is the most prosperous state in that Republic. And that state is predominantly Catholic.

    For reasons you have given, Protestants may give a larger importance to monetary rewards and are willing to put in longer working hours than, say, their Catholic colleagues. Whether the Protestant workers are more effective than their Catholic colleagues is certainly debatable and, based on my observations, not. However, because the state collects its taxes based on income, the longer working hours bring in more tax revenue, on which certain conclusions are based.

    Agreed that one may dig into history to determine why things happened a certain way; however, any such conclusions are likely be controversial.

    The idea of a Jewish Work Ethic I tossed in tongue-in-cheek. Saints preserve us if we ever decided to follow their lead. Collectively Zionists do not know when “enough is enough” and carry on and on until something resists…

    I know that time and time again we are inundated with lists of Jewish achievements, but these achievements were practically always in institutions and businesses founded and staffed by Europeans. Rarely does one hear of such achievements in Israeli owned institutions or businesses. Enough for today. HdC

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    You are probably aware of this already:

    The Winter 1986 - Winter 1987 Issue of Journal of Small Business and Entrepreneurship cited that despite Jews comprise roughly 1 percent of the Canadian population, they comprised 35% of all entrepreneurs in Quebec and 10% of all technical entrepreneurs in Canada.[58]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Employment

    So, I think, the chances are pretty high, that what you in fact experienced in Quebec is likely a combination of the ``Jewish work ethic'' and the ``Catholic work ethic,'' funnily enough!

    The 2011 Forbes' list of billionaires in the world listed 24 Canadian billionaires. Among the billionaires listed, 6 out of the 24 or 25% of the Canadian billionaires listed are Jewish (25 times the percentage of Jews in the Canadian population).[66][67] Sol Encel and Leslie Stein, authors of Continuity, Commitment, and Survival: Jewish communities in the diaspora cite 14% of the top 50 richest Canadians are Jewish (14 times the percentage) as have been 31% of Canada's thirty wealthiest families (31 times the percentage), and while constituting only 1.0 percent of the Canadian population, they comprise 8% of the top executives of Canada's most largest and profitable companies.[57]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Economics

    I am personally acquainted with an ethnically Jewish Canadian businessman. He is a fervent Anglican, though, and his family anglicized their family name, but of course he is still very pro-Israel. His family founded this company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canfor

    He has always been extremely nice to me and very supportive.

    This is his great-aunt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Altmann

    Woman In Gold Official Trailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWve9SX2czQ
  69. HdC says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you are rejecting the contrast between the work ethic in say Spain or 19th century Catholic Poland and the "Protestant Ethic" of which Weber and Tawney wrote have you a comment to make about their theses in, respectively, "Die Protestattische Ethik und der Geist des Kapitalismus" and "Religion and the Rise of Capitalism". I haven't read them since I was 17 and writing an essay for a prize but didtinctly remember being pleased that I did not belong to the tradition of Calvin or John Knox, who, with the Pilgrim Fathers, I remember as the great workaholics. What also struck me was was the lack of logic in those Protestants who believed in predestination striving by their works to prove that they were alresdy amonst the elect while Catholics and others believed that good works might earn them salvation but apparently werent thereby motivated to economic success which would have enabled them to earn a great deal of celestial credit. (Perhaps, as Luther may have divined, the old Church was so deeply mired in the corruption of indulgences for money that cynical shortcuts was all it inspired).

    I have not read the tomes you refer to.

    What is economic success? Has anyone defined this succinctly?

    Professionally I was always fortunate that my bosses were not workaholics and we always flew out on Mondays, returning Fridays at the latest. In over 50 years of working life there was only one exception to this rule, and I resigned my position soon after that.

    Note that today the shine is off workaholics, and balance of working life is the latest mantra…

    Agreed that the Catholic Church was corrupt before and during Luther’s times. And I venture my opinion that today its top dogs are a bunch of liars. HdC

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    There are small bonuses in UR conversations. SolontoCroesus is sometimes as intriguing as perverse and irritating but it had never occurred to me that I should have understood his pseudonym immediately. But, preparing to essay an answer to your question about success and to decorate it with the appearance of classical learning, I Googled "count no man happy". Oddly, I chose to read most of
    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/08/14/count-no-man-happy-until-the-end-is-known/

    So.... if one is 80 and able to pay whatever educational costs might forseeably arise to help ones numerous grandchildren while being unworried about healthcare costs and able to fly business class on long trips is one able to say for certain that one is economically successful? If one's big indexed pension is from the US government and one's income earning assets are in leaders and low geared real estate.... well yes I suppose. And having been lucky wouldn't detract from the verdict.
  70. @HdC
    I have not read the tomes you refer to.

    What is economic success? Has anyone defined this succinctly?

    Professionally I was always fortunate that my bosses were not workaholics and we always flew out on Mondays, returning Fridays at the latest. In over 50 years of working life there was only one exception to this rule, and I resigned my position soon after that.

    Note that today the shine is off workaholics, and balance of working life is the latest mantra...

    Agreed that the Catholic Church was corrupt before and during Luther's times. And I venture my opinion that today its top dogs are a bunch of liars. HdC

    There are small bonuses in UR conversations. SolontoCroesus is sometimes as intriguing as perverse and irritating but it had never occurred to me that I should have understood his pseudonym immediately. But, preparing to essay an answer to your question about success and to decorate it with the appearance of classical learning, I Googled “count no man happy”. Oddly, I chose to read most of

    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/08/14/count-no-man-happy-until-the-end-is-known/

    So…. if one is 80 and able to pay whatever educational costs might forseeably arise to help ones numerous grandchildren while being unworried about healthcare costs and able to fly business class on long trips is one able to say for certain that one is economically successful? If one’s big indexed pension is from the US government and one’s income earning assets are in leaders and low geared real estate…. well yes I suppose. And having been lucky wouldn’t detract from the verdict.

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  71. FKA Max says:
    @HdC
    Thanks for your thoughtful reply. My admonition was meant in a friendly way.

    Permit me to clarify a couple of points:

    1) My scribbles/responses are based on what I have read in what I perceived to be credible sources. (what is credible today???)
    2) I am not a student of history, but have read much about Germany during and between the world wars because of the Zuendel trials in Toronto in the 1980's.
    3) My queries are based on personal experiences and observations.

    Professionally I have worked in Quebec, a predominantly Catholic society, and southern Ontario, a predominantly Protestant mish-mash. (Both are provinces of Canada, a huge land mass of a country north of the USA). And based on my working experience in these societies I question the premise of the Protestant work ethic. I also happened to know that at this time the German state of Bavaria is the most prosperous state in that Republic. And that state is predominantly Catholic.

    For reasons you have given, Protestants may give a larger importance to monetary rewards and are willing to put in longer working hours than, say, their Catholic colleagues. Whether the Protestant workers are more effective than their Catholic colleagues is certainly debatable and, based on my observations, not. However, because the state collects its taxes based on income, the longer working hours bring in more tax revenue, on which certain conclusions are based.

    Agreed that one may dig into history to determine why things happened a certain way; however, any such conclusions are likely be controversial.

    The idea of a Jewish Work Ethic I tossed in tongue-in-cheek. Saints preserve us if we ever decided to follow their lead. Collectively Zionists do not know when "enough is enough" and carry on and on until something resists...

    I know that time and time again we are inundated with lists of Jewish achievements, but these achievements were practically always in institutions and businesses founded and staffed by Europeans. Rarely does one hear of such achievements in Israeli owned institutions or businesses. Enough for today. HdC

    You are probably aware of this already:

    The Winter 1986 – Winter 1987 Issue of Journal of Small Business and Entrepreneurship cited that despite Jews comprise roughly 1 percent of the Canadian population, they comprised 35% of all entrepreneurs in Quebec and 10% of all technical entrepreneurs in Canada.[58]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Employment

    So, I think, the chances are pretty high, that what you in fact experienced in Quebec is likely a combination of the “Jewish work ethic” and the “Catholic work ethic,” funnily enough!

    The 2011 Forbes’ list of billionaires in the world listed 24 Canadian billionaires. Among the billionaires listed, 6 out of the 24 or 25% of the Canadian billionaires listed are Jewish (25 times the percentage of Jews in the Canadian population).[66][67] Sol Encel and Leslie Stein, authors of Continuity, Commitment, and Survival: Jewish communities in the diaspora cite 14% of the top 50 richest Canadians are Jewish (14 times the percentage) as have been 31% of Canada’s thirty wealthiest families (31 times the percentage), and while constituting only 1.0 percent of the Canadian population, they comprise 8% of the top executives of Canada’s most largest and profitable companies.[57]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Economics

    I am personally acquainted with an ethnically Jewish Canadian businessman. He is a fervent Anglican, though, and his family anglicized their family name, but of course he is still very pro-Israel. His family founded this company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canfor

    He has always been extremely nice to me and very supportive.

    This is his great-aunt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Altmann

    Woman In Gold Official Trailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWve9SX2czQ

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    The heavy engineering company that was my employer in Quebec was definitely anglophone protestant ownership and management. One of the sales engineers was probably Jewish with the name of Rothschild. We joked about it with him. He was a very blunt and outspoken individual and I got to like him a lot as I tend to be the same...

    The shop work forces were practically all French Canadian and it was these I grew to respect immensely for the quality of their work and their diligence. These people worked hard and effectively with excellent results. They were cooperative and went out of their way to accommodate management requirements for cash flow reasons. This company also had an inbred sense for cooperation among the various managers. And no micro-managers here.

    Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the anglophone work forces I encountered in southern Ontario.

    Wealth accumulation... When is enough enough? Perhaps Christians, Catholics in particular, do not see the need to amass piles upon piles of money. When there is enough to pay the bills, and a comfortable buffer for the unforeseen, and a nice retirement, perhaps it is then time to smell the roses.

    During all of human history, no one, ever, lamented on his deathbed: "Gee, I wish I had spent more time at the office." Many, however, lamented that the wished that they had spent more time with family, friends, travelling, etc. HdC
  72. Sam J. says:
    @in the middle
    The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world. I met and befriended a great Judean from Jerusalem in California, great and friendly guy. He looked like Iraqi. Then later on I met a Judean who came from South Africa, and looked like the demon twins in the movie Matrix, the ones with white hair, and transparent skin. He was evil and racist big time! So my point is that as any other group, they are different in evilness. Whoever you call the Jews as the root, could be categorized in a special group. I believe and history attest to it, that most of the Judeans, and Talmudist are kazharians and Europeans who converted to the Talmudic religion in past centuries. Don't believe me?



    Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

    Therefore, those so called Jews, are mostly the converted ones, who became Two fold sons of Gehenna, meaning destruction, burning, death. Thus enemies of mankind.

    “…The present Judeans, as I call them, are not the historical Judeans of the ancient world…”

    I don’t believe any of that nonsense and find the whole thing irrelevant as any reading of history will show you that they both act alike.

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  73. Sam J. says:
    @HdC
    Careful with your last accusation about not knowing anything about...

    You mentioned Prussian Militarism? Why? Militaristic compared to whom? The French, British?

    Using your criterion, why not talk about a Jewish Work Ethic, since their perceived accomplishments, and riches, are definitely above the norm. Something to strive for? HdC

    I may never say a good thing about Jews the rest of my life but I will say the Jews have an enormous kick ass work ethic. It may be working towards the destruction of everyone around them but they work tremendously hard.

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    This I perceive to be the Jewish problem: They never know when enough is enough. HdC
  74. HdC says:
    @FKA Max
    You are probably aware of this already:

    The Winter 1986 - Winter 1987 Issue of Journal of Small Business and Entrepreneurship cited that despite Jews comprise roughly 1 percent of the Canadian population, they comprised 35% of all entrepreneurs in Quebec and 10% of all technical entrepreneurs in Canada.[58]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Employment

    So, I think, the chances are pretty high, that what you in fact experienced in Quebec is likely a combination of the ``Jewish work ethic'' and the ``Catholic work ethic,'' funnily enough!

    The 2011 Forbes' list of billionaires in the world listed 24 Canadian billionaires. Among the billionaires listed, 6 out of the 24 or 25% of the Canadian billionaires listed are Jewish (25 times the percentage of Jews in the Canadian population).[66][67] Sol Encel and Leslie Stein, authors of Continuity, Commitment, and Survival: Jewish communities in the diaspora cite 14% of the top 50 richest Canadians are Jewish (14 times the percentage) as have been 31% of Canada's thirty wealthiest families (31 times the percentage), and while constituting only 1.0 percent of the Canadian population, they comprise 8% of the top executives of Canada's most largest and profitable companies.[57]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Canada#Economics

    I am personally acquainted with an ethnically Jewish Canadian businessman. He is a fervent Anglican, though, and his family anglicized their family name, but of course he is still very pro-Israel. His family founded this company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canfor

    He has always been extremely nice to me and very supportive.

    This is his great-aunt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Altmann

    Woman In Gold Official Trailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWve9SX2czQ

    The heavy engineering company that was my employer in Quebec was definitely anglophone protestant ownership and management. One of the sales engineers was probably Jewish with the name of Rothschild. We joked about it with him. He was a very blunt and outspoken individual and I got to like him a lot as I tend to be the same…

    The shop work forces were practically all French Canadian and it was these I grew to respect immensely for the quality of their work and their diligence. These people worked hard and effectively with excellent results. They were cooperative and went out of their way to accommodate management requirements for cash flow reasons. This company also had an inbred sense for cooperation among the various managers. And no micro-managers here.

    Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the anglophone work forces I encountered in southern Ontario.

    Wealth accumulation… When is enough enough? Perhaps Christians, Catholics in particular, do not see the need to amass piles upon piles of money. When there is enough to pay the bills, and a comfortable buffer for the unforeseen, and a nice retirement, perhaps it is then time to smell the roses.

    During all of human history, no one, ever, lamented on his deathbed: “Gee, I wish I had spent more time at the office.” Many, however, lamented that the wished that they had spent more time with family, friends, travelling, etc. HdC

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    Wealth accumulation… When is enough enough?
     
    Another (half-)Jewish person I like very much and hold in high regard is Robert Skidelsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Skidelsky,_Baron_Skidelsky

    He wrote a book with his son:

    How Much is Enough?: Money and the Good Life is a 2012 popular economics book by Robert Skidelsky and Edward Skidelsky. It was published initially by Other Press and later by Penguin Books.

    The book asks why Westerners work so many hours per week and lead lives that revolve around money, business and financial decisions in defiance of John Maynard Keynes' 1930 assertion[1] that there would come a time (around 2015) when capitalism would be able to provide for all our needs and the work week would drop to 10 or even 5 hours.

    The book and (Edward Skidelsky's writing generally[2]) looks into the idea of The good life and how Capitalism may have been the key to it, but we have now lost sense of the good life as a priority.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=How_Much_Is_Enough%3F_(book)&_Money_and_the_Good_Life=
  75. HdC says:
    @Sam J.
    I may never say a good thing about Jews the rest of my life but I will say the Jews have an enormous kick ass work ethic. It may be working towards the destruction of everyone around them but they work tremendously hard.

    This I perceive to be the Jewish problem: They never know when enough is enough. HdC

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  76. FKA Max says:
    @HdC
    The heavy engineering company that was my employer in Quebec was definitely anglophone protestant ownership and management. One of the sales engineers was probably Jewish with the name of Rothschild. We joked about it with him. He was a very blunt and outspoken individual and I got to like him a lot as I tend to be the same...

    The shop work forces were practically all French Canadian and it was these I grew to respect immensely for the quality of their work and their diligence. These people worked hard and effectively with excellent results. They were cooperative and went out of their way to accommodate management requirements for cash flow reasons. This company also had an inbred sense for cooperation among the various managers. And no micro-managers here.

    Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the anglophone work forces I encountered in southern Ontario.

    Wealth accumulation... When is enough enough? Perhaps Christians, Catholics in particular, do not see the need to amass piles upon piles of money. When there is enough to pay the bills, and a comfortable buffer for the unforeseen, and a nice retirement, perhaps it is then time to smell the roses.

    During all of human history, no one, ever, lamented on his deathbed: "Gee, I wish I had spent more time at the office." Many, however, lamented that the wished that they had spent more time with family, friends, travelling, etc. HdC

    Wealth accumulation… When is enough enough?

    Another (half-)Jewish person I like very much and hold in high regard is Robert Skidelsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Skidelsky,_Baron_Skidelsky

    He wrote a book with his son:

    How Much is Enough?: Money and the Good Life is a 2012 popular economics book by Robert Skidelsky and Edward Skidelsky. It was published initially by Other Press and later by Penguin Books.

    The book asks why Westerners work so many hours per week and lead lives that revolve around money, business and financial decisions in defiance of John Maynard Keynes’ 1930 assertion[1] that there would come a time (around 2015) when capitalism would be able to provide for all our needs and the work week would drop to 10 or even 5 hours.

    The book and (Edward Skidelsky’s writing generally[2]) looks into the idea of The good life and how Capitalism may have been the key to it, but we have now lost sense of the good life as a priority.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=How_Much_Is_Enough%3F_(book)&_Money_and_the_Good_Life=

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    I just discovered this video of Robert Skidelsky on Trump, the Alt Right, etc. Highly interesting:

    Lord Skidelsky Refuses to Equate Trumpism with Fascism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTCTEocPI7w

    Published on Nov 16, 2016

    BBC Newsnight Anchor Tries to gear Lord Robert Skidelsky to equate the Trump's Presidential Campaign and his victory to far-right fascist movement. Watch how he checked the anchor's smugness right at the end... Televised on 15th November 2016

    Some more recent, interesting information and research on (the Protestant) work ethic, etc.:

    New research suggests that effort at work is correlated with race

    http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21715998-establishing-cause-remains-hazardous-new-research-suggests-effort-work
    [...]
    Within hours of publication, Mr Hamermesh received vitriolic messages and was labelled a racist in an online forum popular among economists.
    [...]
    Whites actually slack off the least on the job, even less than Asians; Is the Protestant work ethic the explanation or discrimination against minorities?
    [...]
    http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/2017/02/articles/body/20170204_usc746.png
     

    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/asians-are-most-realistic-about-white-black-iq-gap/#comment-1779946
  77. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max

    Wealth accumulation… When is enough enough?
     
    Another (half-)Jewish person I like very much and hold in high regard is Robert Skidelsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Skidelsky,_Baron_Skidelsky

    He wrote a book with his son:

    How Much is Enough?: Money and the Good Life is a 2012 popular economics book by Robert Skidelsky and Edward Skidelsky. It was published initially by Other Press and later by Penguin Books.

    The book asks why Westerners work so many hours per week and lead lives that revolve around money, business and financial decisions in defiance of John Maynard Keynes' 1930 assertion[1] that there would come a time (around 2015) when capitalism would be able to provide for all our needs and the work week would drop to 10 or even 5 hours.

    The book and (Edward Skidelsky's writing generally[2]) looks into the idea of The good life and how Capitalism may have been the key to it, but we have now lost sense of the good life as a priority.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=How_Much_Is_Enough%3F_(book)&_Money_and_the_Good_Life=

    I just discovered this video of Robert Skidelsky on Trump, the Alt Right, etc. Highly interesting:

    Lord Skidelsky Refuses to Equate Trumpism with Fascism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTCTEocPI7w

    Published on Nov 16, 2016

    BBC Newsnight Anchor Tries to gear Lord Robert Skidelsky to equate the Trump’s Presidential Campaign and his victory to far-right fascist movement. Watch how he checked the anchor’s smugness right at the end… Televised on 15th November 2016

    Some more recent, interesting information and research on (the Protestant) work ethic, etc.:

    New research suggests that effort at work is correlated with race

    http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21715998-establishing-cause-remains-hazardous-new-research-suggests-effort-work

    [...]
    Within hours of publication, Mr Hamermesh received vitriolic messages and was labelled a racist in an online forum popular among economists.
    [...]
    Whites actually slack off the least on the job, even less than Asians; Is the Protestant work ethic the explanation or discrimination against minorities?
    [...]
    http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/2017/02/articles/body/20170204_usc746.png

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/asians-are-most-realistic-about-white-black-iq-gap/#comment-1779946

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