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So it appears America and democracy have miraculously survived the dreaded Trump-Putin summit … or Trump’s meeting with his Russian handler, as the neoliberal ruling classes and their mouthpieces in the corporate media would dearly like us all to believe. NATO has not been summarily dissolved. Poland has not been invaded by Russia. The offices of The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and MSNBC have not been stormed by squads of jackbooted Trumpian Gestapo. The Destabilization of the Middle East, the Privatization of Virtually Everything, the Conversion of the Planet into One Big Shopping Mall, and other global capitalist projects are all going forward uninterrupted. Apart from Trump making a narcissistic, word-salad-babbling jackass of himself, which he does on a more or less daily basis, nothing particularly apocalyptic happened.

And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands. It has become a sadistic ritual at this point … like a twisted, pseudo-Tantric exercise where the media get liberals all lathered up over whatever fresh horror Trump has just perpetrated (or some non-story story they have invented out of whole cloth), build the tension for several days, until liberals are moaning and begging for impeachment, or a full-blown CIA-sponsored coup, then pull out abruptly and leave the poor bastards writhing in agony until the next time … which is pretty much exactly what just happened.

In the days and weeks leading up to the summit, the global capitalist ruling class Resistance deployed every weapon in its mighty arsenal to whip the Western masses up into a frenzy of anti-Putin-Nazi fervor. While continuing to flog the wildly popular baby concentration camp story (because the Hitler stimulus never fails to elicit a Pavlovian response from Americans, regardless of how often or how blatantly you use it), the corporate media began hammering hard on the “Trump is a Russian Agent” hysteria. (Normally, the corporate media alternates between the Hitler hysteria and the Russia hysteria so as not to completely short-circuit the already scrambled brains of Western liberals, but given the imminent threat of a peace deal, they needed to go the whole hog this time and paint this summit as a secret, internationally televised assignation between Hitler and … well, Hitler).

In order to render them even more repugnant in the eyes of Western liberals (as if being two Hitlers wasn’t repugnant enough), The New York Times produced this short porno graphically depicting Trump and Putin as insatiably horny homosexual lovers. A fusillade of apocalyptic op-eds followed, the most shamelessly paranoid and hysterical of which was Roger Cohen’s experimental dystopia, in which “The Alliance of Authoritarian and Reactionary States” trick the inherently fascist Europeans into launching a Second Holocaust with a “fake news” story about Moroccan migrants abducting poor little “Tatiana” from a beach resort in Fuengirola.

While faithful New York Times-reading liberals were still struggling to regain control of their sphincters and doubling up on their alprazolam prescriptions in a desperate attempt to banish these visions of the coming butch-gay Putin-Nazi Reich, go-to propagandist, Jonathan Chait, who has obviously been watching way too much Homeland, published this paranoid spec-fic novella (complete with a “Carrie is off her meds” flow chart) about how Trump has probably been “a Russian intelligence asset” since 1987. At the same time, MSNBC’s Malcolm Nance took to Twitter to denounce Glenn Greenwald as a treasonous “agent of Trump and Moscow” for physically traveling to a conference in Russia and speaking with several Russian people. Nance, who usually just makes things up, was actually telling the truth this time. Greenwald really did visit Russia, and was selfied in the company of Edward Snowden, on top of which he’s totally gay, and God knows what kind of Commie orgies go on in the Kremlin dungeon!

And the neoliberal “Resistance” was just getting started. As Trump was arriving at Stansted Airport to begin his “destruction of British diplomacy” (and possibly poison the Queen with more of that Novichok oatmeal that has been plaguing the UK), The Guardian‘s Owen Jones was personally preparing cells of the “London Resistance” for “the biggest demonstration in British history,” or “the biggest weekday protest in British history,” or a very large protest in any event. The London Resistance’s secret weapon was the baby Russian Agent Hitler blimp, which forced Trump and his Nazi goons to retreat to one of his Scottish golf resorts, but not before humiliating America, and horrifying The Washington Post, by failing to grovel before the British monarch. Still, the point is, London was saved. The forces of hatred, bigotry, and Russianness were roundly defeated by the forces of love, and goodness, and democracy, and tolerance, and whatever. If only the French had been willing to deploy a baby Hitler blimp in 1940 … or had been able to unite the corporate media, the intelligence agencies, the capitalist ruling classes, and thousands of virtue-signaling liberals to disapprove of the original Hitler!

But that wasn’t all … oh no, far from it. No, the weeks of white-eyed editorials warning us of the dangers of peace, the neo-McCarthyite smear campaigns, the virtue-signaling Stop Trump protests, all that was just an extended edition of Orwell’s famous Two Minutes Hate, designed to generate mass hysteria and paranoia in the run-up to the summit. By Friday, the Intelligence Community was issuing warnings of imminent Russian “attempts to undermine America” with September 11 scale “cyber attacks!” National Intelligence Director Dan Coats personally told the AssociatedPress that the little “Imminent Russia Attack” lights he has on his desk were all “blinking red.” Apparently, Trump and the Putin-Nazis are preparing “a crippling cyber attack” against “critical US infrastructure,” like “a power outage in New England in January,” or even “a cyber attack on banks” that will erase Americans’ entire life savings but somehow spare all the Russian accounts, or at least another devastating round of division-sowing Facebook ads!

Then, just in time for the corporate media to milk it throughout the weekend, special counsel Robert Mueller, III released a 29-page indictment accusing a bunch of Russian spies of, well, basically, being Russian spies. The indictment alleges that these Russian spies destroyed the campaign of Hillary Clinton, who everyone knows is supposed to be President, by “hacking” the Democratic Party’s servers and stealing and disseminating emails revealing both Clinton and the Democratic Party to be the soulless neoliberal hypocrites most people already knew they were. The indictment of these Russian intelligence officers (and no Americans, nor any other parties who can ever actually be brought to trial, requiring special counsel Mueller to offer evidence to support his allegations) was followed up by a chorus of voices demanding that the summit be cancelled and that Trump slink home in complete disgrace to confess his crimes to a vindicated nation, and then presumably fire his entire administration, resign, and appoint Hillary Clinton President.

Sometime early Sunday morning, after hours of careful deliberation over cheeseburgers and sodas on Air Force One with the Gorilla Channel streaming on his smartphone for ambiance, Trump decided to go ahead with the summit. This left the Resistance no other choice than to turn up the dial on the manufactured hysteria by repeating the words “treason,” “treasonous,” and “traitor” as many times as humanly possible on every news site, television channel, and social media platform in existence, and just generally running around like lunatics shrieking about an “IMMINENT RUSSIAN ATTACK!”

On the morning of the summit, Charles M. Blow, maestro of alliteration and subtlety, in The New York Times (which, we must remember, holds itself to the highest journalistic standards and in no way resembles a rabble-rousing tabloid), published this impassioned piece entitled “Trump, Treasonous Traitor,” accusing the President of “betraying the nation,” and basically demanding that he be tried for treason. “America is under attack,” Blow announces, “and its president absolutely refuses to defend it.” If Mother Jones‘ David Corn has his way, Senator Rand Paul, who Corn denounces as “a traitor,” would also be taken outside and shot for the crime of noting that the Attack on America® Russia allegedly perpetrated is fairly standard clandestine behavior, engaged in by most developed nations, including the United States of America, whose history of election interference, coup-fomenting, assassinations, and other, more hamfisted forms of regime change is common knowledge, or at least it was, until the ruling classes and the corporate media turned the majority of Western liberals into paranoid McCarthyite fanatics denouncing anyone who questions the honesty of the US Intelligence Community as a “traitor,” and seeing Russians and Nazis coming out of the woodwork.

In the wake of Trump’s Treasonous Traitor Summit, which Garry Kasparov has called “the darkest hour in the history of the American presidency” (darker than Truman dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki!), the neoliberal establishment and the corporate media appear to have gone full Joe McCarthy. Virtually every establishment mouthpiece, former spook, official state clown, from Thomas Friedman to Stephen Colbert, have been braying about “treason” and “traitorousness,” and suggesting that Donald Trump be removed from office by, you know, whatever means necessary. At least David Frum, senior editor at The Atlantichad the balls to openly call for a CIA-orchestrated military coup, because we can’t afford to wait for the legal process to take its course this time, as we are “facing a national security emergency!”

God knows where we go from here. It’s hard to believe the ruling classes can keep teasing liberals, and other Trump-obsessives, over and over and over like this, without eventually impeaching or shooting the guy … but then again, maybe they can. Perhaps they intend to continue conducting this experiment all the way up to 2020, just to see how paranoid and mindlessly conformist they make the majority of the Western public. In any event, if they decide not to impeach him, and then try him for treason, or just kill him, or whatever, the Democrats at least have a new campaign slogan that they can use in 2018 and beyond … “NEXT TIME VOTE FOR WHO WE TELL YOU TO, YOU RUSSIA-LOVING NAZI SCUM!” It kind of has a ring to it, doesn’t it?

 
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  1. C.J. Hopkins need to publish a separate book of the titles of his articles–it will be a delight to read. Great piece. As per this Nance guy (not the Eraserhead):

    At the same time, MSNBC’s Malcolm Nance took to Twitter to denounce Glenn Greenwald as a treasonous “agent of Trump and Moscow” for physically traveling to a conference in Russia and speaking with several Russian people. Nance, who usually just makes things up, was actually telling the truth this time. Greenwald really did visit Russia, and was selfied in the company of Edward Snowden, on top of which he’s totally gay, and God knows what kind of Commie orgies go on in the Kremlin dungeon!

    I am still puzzled by how this NCO, a cryptologist (that is mostly technician job) of a lower rank, continues to present himself as an Intelligence Officer, while his billet was not an officer position to start with. But if to throw away the fact that the guy never served as an officer, I wonder how’s that this cryptologist technician can have such a “profound” insight into HUMINT and operations of influence by KGB and G(R)U. He claims he “studied” it, but my question–who would “teach” him based on what is even today a highly classified history of interaction of US-Russian intelligence organizations. Books? Sure, and late Tom Clancy was also an “expert” in Soviet Armed Forces, LOL. Nance is so patently stupid and uneducated, not to mention his non-stop lying that one has to ask a question–is this the best “left” can do? It seems like it.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Andrei,

    I am confused by your reference to 'NCO'.

    Sincere question, Greenwald is non-military, Snowden was non-military, and a civilian contractor for non-military sigint.

    So, I would guess that you are thinking of PFC Bradley Manning, who gained automatic promotions to become an NCO while in the brig (as did the lunatic Bode Miller, with different background but in the same timeframe).

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an 'intelligence officer', from the start.

    My mental reaction 'Are these US forces and their intelligence ops. simply insane?'
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  2. JVC says:

    Great piece Mr. Hopkins–actually gave me something to smile about considering the BS assault we have been deluged in since this particular summit was decided upon. Thanks

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  3. Aw, you made all this up. It couldn’t possibly be happening.

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  4. This is one of the best round-ups of the last week I’ve read anywhere. CJ’s a bit too left-wing for my taste but his ability to skewer the soulless neoliberal ghouls who run the Democrat party is very impressive.

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  5. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    At least Old McCarthyism was a reaction to REAL espionage and infiltration.

    Harry Dexter White was a Soviet agent. Alger Hiss too. And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets.

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and ‘hysteria’ was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.

    But today’s ‘scare’ is totally made up. And the US deep state has been totally infiltrated by the MIC or Military-Industrial-Complex types. And globo-homo machivellians who just love to play the power game. They are well-educated gangsters. They hate Russia because it knows the game.

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    • Agree: Svigor
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    " And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets. "
    My impression is that they did not, Fuchs did.
    , @phil
    What is less well-known is that McCarthy was SUPPORTED financially by Jews, led primarily by Bernard Baruch, on the condition that, early on, he NOT highlight the Jewishness of a lot of the spies. Ann Coulter, who also depends on Jewish support, also refrained from highlighting the Jewishness of the spies in her book Treason. In fact, she harped on "WASPS with three names," when, in fact, Harry Dexter White was a Jew whose family had decided to adopt a WASPish name.
    , @MacNucc11
    I was going to comment something along the same lines myself. My only gripe with C.J. Hopkins is his overuse of neo-McCarthyite. It is not neo-McCarthyite in that Joe McCarthy was dead on accurate in his accusations of communists in our government. I think that is a huge part of the hysteria against Putin is that our commies(yeah they never left) feel betrayed by Putin for not allowing the ongoing looting of Russia the and not bringing Russia in as a client state to the U.S. fold.
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  6. The Neocons have taken over the “left” media and feature crazed idiots who applaud the anti-worker idea of mass immigration and warmongering. Most leftists are too spineless to oppose this onslaught. Corporate America has diverted the progressive movement for affordable health care and slashing the empire budget to promoting neocon goals or world domination and open borders. Even good guys like lefty Jimmy Dore refuse to push back. We have lots of former “Bernie Bros” pushing for more military spending to defend NATO, even though Europe itself spends twice more on its military than Russia, has twice its population, and 11 times its GDP!

    Newbusters assembled a montage of neocon faux-lefty heroes upset at world peace:

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2018/07/16/video-montage-cable-news-sees-apocalypse-trumpputin-summit

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    • Replies: @FB
    Good comment...a very reasonable precis of the situation...
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  7. Anonsky says:

    “or just kill him, or whatever”,

    People who suggest harming the president should be visited by the
    Secret Service or whatever.

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    • Replies: @cracker jack
    But that's the DNC game. It's not impeachment;it's the A word. Excite the mob of crazies to do your dirty work. It's the best way to move the Undesirable from office. No need to get your hands dirty and you don't wind up in the pokey. So the DNC controlled media keeps up the pressure and the invective. It's so nice it'll make a DNC man,woman,or man-woman/woman-man cream their jeans.
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  8. Well done article, much my own thinking.

    It seems too incredible they’re banking on this: it’s their whole election platform in 2018 and beyond. Screeching “Racist, sexist, homophobic Russian bot!”

    Until the Democrats clean house and re-establish what they stand for, it will continue to be a world record loss in federal seats, governorships, and state seats which in turn means all the courts.

    What reatards.

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  9. Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and ‘hysteria’ was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.

    Can you elaborate on this?

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    Elisabeth Dilling, ´The Roosevelt Red record and its background’, 1936, Chicago
    , @Anonymous
    For openers, see this Ron Unz editorial here: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-deadly-world-of-post-war-politics/
    , @Anon
    It’s common knowledge.
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  10. Voltara says:

    The globalists deployed all their reserves this week. Everyone they could find was trucked to the front, handed an old Enfield .303 and a tin hat. It was backs-to-the-wall stuff. Even a few roaches who had kept hidden revealed themselves.

    Have they got anything left?

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  11. Wally says:

    The Hitler comparisons are doubly absurd when you consider that like the laughable allegations against Trump, the allegations against Hitler & ‘the Nazis’ do not withstand scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny. The claims are easily debunked childish nonsense.

    Go ahead to try to to find proof of Trump’s collusion with Russia and proof of the impossible ’6,000,000 Jews & gas chambers’. There simply is none.

    Only liars demand censorship.

    Must reads here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos : http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

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  12. I wonder if the Deep Staters understand they’re playing with fire.
    What will happen if, am not sure it will, USA public opinion turns against them, I wonder.
    The USA has more firearms among the population than the population number.

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    You point out the exact motive behind the push for disarming the public. Deep state doesn't really care about protecting the young ones from school shootings - instead, they want to make sure they can stay in control in case of a public uprising, which increasingly appears to be a matter of "when", not "if".
    , @Carroll Price
    What we're seeing now is apparently the beginning of what led to more than 200 expulsions of Jews from host countries over the past centuries. Everything appears to be 100 percent under their control, until one day The Chosen Ones start overplaying their hand to the point where plain, ordinary folk, who believed they could do no wrong, start taking notice of things that people like you and I have known and talked about for 40+ years.
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  13. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin is the new Goldstein or Goldputin.

    Of course, the entire Russian Collusion nonsense was concocted to prevent the Meeting.
    The Meeting happened, and the Deep State is freaking out like the insiders of The Castle of Kafka novel.

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  14. @Anon
    At least Old McCarthyism was a reaction to REAL espionage and infiltration.

    Harry Dexter White was a Soviet agent. Alger Hiss too. And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets.

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and 'hysteria' was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.

    But today's 'scare' is totally made up. And the US deep state has been totally infiltrated by the MIC or Military-Industrial-Complex types. And globo-homo machivellians who just love to play the power game. They are well-educated gangsters. They hate Russia because it knows the game.

    ” And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets. ”
    My impression is that they did not, Fuchs did.

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  15. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Since everyone on the planet has heard the Holocau$t™ whoppers 6 million times and has been inundated with nasty Nazi imagery since birth, it’s easy to figure out who’s in control of the USA and most of the world.

    It’s the ones who keep calling any leader they don’t like–and want killed–the next Hitler, but never the next Stalin, since that ruthless despot orchestrated the brutal murder of around 66 million Russians is their hero and they would never use his name to slime their next target…

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    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Anon9988
    A particularly eerie week here in America given the Russian observance of the 100th anniversary of the brutal murder of the entire Romanov family by Jews. The unsettling parallels are there every minute: a Jewish controlled media rabidly calling for the overthrow of the US government, Jews and their minions publicly calling for violence against the president and his family, swift and merciless retribution for anyone who dares to disagree with their agenda.

    As far as I know, calls to overthrow the US government are against the law (18 U.S. Code § 2385). Why aren't these people being arrested?

    There is no question the US is living under zionist occupation, and it's becoming clearer every day where this is all going to lead.

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  16. if in fact this article is accurate,

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

    the game may be over. Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war. Not only has he backtracked, he has acknowledged that russia is a hostile actor against us interests. that admission says russia did more than seek information from spying,

    it was a mistake to make an open public war with our services while in helsinki. it was a mistake to backtrack from those comments and once he granted the veracity of the report, — which in my view proves not a thing, except russia tv did not like sec clinton and had been long before the election.

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    Agree. In Trump's walking back his earlier statements he looked and sounded just terrible. Someone really did get to him, and it wasn't the Russkies. They must have rerun the Zapruder film for him in a private viewing.
    , @fnn

    Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war.
     
    Courts have repeatedly ruled the DNC and RNC to be private organizations. I don't see how hacking the computer of a private organization can be an "act of war." Even if you provide some Talmudic explanation of why it is, it can never be legally proven in a court.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Soros owns the Guardian
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  17. Realist says:

    Trump’s Treasonous Traitor Summit
    or, How Liberals Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the New McCarthyism

    It’s not just the liberals, way too many on the right are doing the same. It’s called the Deep State….you know the ones who run this country.

    This problem will only be resolved through physical means.

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    It's really ridiculous for anyone to imagine that one man could even hope to reform the entire government bureaucracy, virtually every bit of which is violently opposed to him, and to any hint of said reform. And virtually every bit of which is monumentally, unapologetically corrupt.

    I'm no great fan of the man but even I am impressed by his high wire act, each new day of which is really a minor miracle.

    , @Anonymous
    Well now I've read the entire essay and it's something of a masterpiece. The only thing I'd add is that when Israel is caught spying on America, all the same people say, "oh that's nothing, everyone spies on everyone, grow up already."
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  18. @gmachine1729

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and ‘hysteria’ was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.
     
    Can you elaborate on this?

    Elisabeth Dilling, ´The Roosevelt Red record and its background’, 1936, Chicago

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  19. Anonymous[639] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Trump’s Treasonous Traitor Summit
    or, How Liberals Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the New McCarthyism
     
    It's not just the liberals, way too many on the right are doing the same. It's called the Deep State....you know the ones who run this country.

    This problem will only be resolved through physical means.

    It’s really ridiculous for anyone to imagine that one man could even hope to reform the entire government bureaucracy, virtually every bit of which is violently opposed to him, and to any hint of said reform. And virtually every bit of which is monumentally, unapologetically corrupt.

    I’m no great fan of the man but even I am impressed by his high wire act, each new day of which is really a minor miracle.

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    • Replies: @Poco
    The best he can do is appoint judges that we hope will influence the justice system for the better.
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  20. Anonymous[639] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Trump’s Treasonous Traitor Summit
    or, How Liberals Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the New McCarthyism
     
    It's not just the liberals, way too many on the right are doing the same. It's called the Deep State....you know the ones who run this country.

    This problem will only be resolved through physical means.

    Well now I’ve read the entire essay and it’s something of a masterpiece. The only thing I’d add is that when Israel is caught spying on America, all the same people say, “oh that’s nothing, everyone spies on everyone, grow up already.”

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    • Agree: KDM
    • Replies: @anon
    @ Anonymous If Trump would just ask, he would have 20 million Americans and 50 million Russians to help him.

    Before next election cycle, congress should pass a law that makes"any entity engaged in a political activity" into a nationally protected resource. Invasion into the privacy or theft of an asset or possession of such a protected resource of such a protected entity would be, by that same law, a criminal offense punishable by 60 years exile in Siberia, Russia. If a MSM member is convicted by such a law, then in addition to the Siberia time, such a convict would be required to tell the truth at least once each day.
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  21. @EliteCommInc.
    if in fact this article is accurate,
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

    the game may be over. Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war. Not only has he backtracked, he has acknowledged that russia is a hostile actor against us interests. that admission says russia did more than seek information from spying,

    it was a mistake to make an open public war with our services while in helsinki. it was a mistake to backtrack from those comments and once he granted the veracity of the report, -- which in my view proves not a thing, except russia tv did not like sec clinton and had been long before the election.

    Agree. In Trump’s walking back his earlier statements he looked and sounded just terrible. Someone really did get to him, and it wasn’t the Russkies. They must have rerun the Zapruder film for him in a private viewing.

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    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    Laugh ----


    as a supporter, it's painful to watch and I am nt sure he realizes the potential consequences.
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  22. Mike P says:
    @jilles dykstra
    I wonder if the Deep Staters understand they're playing with fire.
    What will happen if, am not sure it will, USA public opinion turns against them, I wonder.
    The USA has more firearms among the population than the population number.

    You point out the exact motive behind the push for disarming the public. Deep state doesn’t really care about protecting the young ones from school shootings – instead, they want to make sure they can stay in control in case of a public uprising, which increasingly appears to be a matter of “when”, not “if”.

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  23. “And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands.”

    Perhaps the whole thing is just political theater in which Orange Clown is a knowing, willing participant…just like it’s been since Orange Clown began his fraudulent presidential campaign?

    Did Orange Clown get the U.S. out of NATO? No. Did Orange Clown demand an investigation into 9/11? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Afghanistan? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Syria? No. Did Orange Clown reverse the military buildup in Europe threatening Russia? No.

    What of substance has Orange Clown actually done to obstruct or reverse the “deep state” agenda for world domination and control, or to attack the “deep state” itself? Little or nothing, apparently.

    Thus when the stench of Orange Clown’s fraudulence becomes unbearable (as it periodically does), the “deep state” have to give their hapless puppet a shot of “credibility.” So (rather than investigate 9/11, pull out of Syria, or lift sanctions on Russia) they have him call Putin on the phone and congratulate him for his election victory while they make a big deal out of the carefully calculated “treason.” Or they send him to England to feast on the political carrion of their loyal servant, Theresa May (who had to be sacrificed for the greater good), thereby picking up some faux credibility with the true believers; or they arrange a meaningless “summit” with Vladimir Putin and again make a big deal out of it, etc.

    It seems Orange Clown is steering the Titanic into the iceberg with one hand while furiously rearranging the deck chairs with the other. And our attention is always directed to the deck chair rearrangement.

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    Orange Clown has not been impeached, yet, and has not been murdered, yet, despite steering the Titantic in an opposite course, away from the iceberg of sure destruction.
    You greatly underestimate Orange Clown, in my opinion.
    No USA president in just 500 days changed so much.
    , @Darrell Dullnig
    Harold Smith, you have nailed it! It is a masterfully constructed play, and POTUS is acting his part well. It is amazing to see so many otherwise credulous people suckered into taking this ridiculous bait. The big story this is engineered to conceal is the state of the economy of the West. The globalists must utterly destroy the middle classes(particularly of the US, with all their guns), and it is imperative(for them)to carefully engineer the disaster so they will not become victims of their own sabotage. I do not think it can be stopped, but I have high hopes they miscalculate so that their desperate measures blow up in their own faces. We can hope for that.

    Not that it will make much difference in the long run. Mankind’s problems run much deeper even than all this drama and chicanery. We still have too many people on the planet and too little of the indispensable energy source required to make our civilization run as it historically has, so even after the smoke has cleared, we had better become genuine Homo sapiens, or we will be doomed to repeat the errors until there finally are no more of us. As I have said before, at least then the roaches will be able to live in a world without worry about the kids stumbling upon a boric acid tablet.
    , @corstopitum
    Orange clown has cast doubt by showing the world that despite what the news media are telling us, Russia and the West really can get along together. Orange clown isn't as thick as people are making him out to be. In fact orange clown is very clever!
    , @limo
    If this is the case, tell us what in fact your lovely obama had done. You may not like Trump, but any attempts to do anything, he is stymied by just about everyone including the obama appointed judges who even though they know they will get kicked down in the end, are under instructions to just resist him on any and everything so that nothing would seem to be accomplished; and of course there is the liberal press who already have their scripts for whether he fails or succeeds to make huge critiques of him, the only thing they are told to keep doing is anything negative negative negative.

    In the interim, the economy is the best ever (OH, but that is because of obama right?), NATO may not have been eliminated but now all the other countries are paying their share, ISIS does no longer seem to be a threat although I feel this is more due to the efforts of Russia and even Iran, and all Trump gets is endless critique because he doesn't want to start a war.

    Just incredulous really. Here's hoping for a red state across the board victory in November just to send the blues with their tails between their legs, a more disgusting group pathetic, unhinged violent and just plain stupid and hypocritical I have never seen, it is just surreal to watch and listen to them.
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  24. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and ‘hysteria’ was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.
     
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  25. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    Anybody running around in 1962 ranting and raving about Russian plots to TAKE OVER AMERICA – that person would (rightfully) be dismissed as a Right Wing Conspiracy Mongering loon. Now it’s just standard Lib Dems, also RINOs and the cursed Neo Conservatives.

    Communism in Russia fell a long, long time ago.

    Russia is now a European Country, predominantly European Christian country – they look like us and think like us.

    The Russian military has helped secular Arabs in Syria defeat ISIS.

    What is wrong with that?

    Why are we on the same side as ISIS?

    The RINOs like Rep. Paul Ryan and Mittens Romney repeating this “The Russians are our #1 enemy” – they are the worst. This RINO Presidential/Vice Presidential team needs to be dropped off in my Chicago’s Back of the Yards neighborhood and have them get to know lots of “undocumented” .

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  26. Ragno says:

    During BabyGate two weeks ago… when every tentacled hydra-head of the Deep State used the same phrases, in the same shrill tones of hysteria, in the exact same ventriloquist voice, nobody ever bothered to ask, say – where were any of you last year, or the year before that, or five years before THAT, on this burning moral issue that demands immediate shouting ‘n’ gavel-pounding?

    Since just our celebrity liberals alone are among the smartest and most perceptive humans ever to have lived, and our tenured academics the most brilliant of all – does that mean they believe this ‘treason’ okeydoke? Because if they don’t, that would make Western lefties as cunningly malevolent as Beria….and if they do buy in, why, they’d all be dumber than Trump himself!

    Of course, I’m laughing to keep from crying – if “treason” meant anything like it once did in our Newspeak society, and was still vigorously punished as it ought to be, our vaunted cable-television systems would be broadcasting snow on every channel for a few months, and our befuddled universities, running skeleton crews of professors, would be reduced to promoting classical education and the Western canon of arts and letters, as opposed to Social Justice and The 42 Genders.

    I think we can all agree that nobody of good will and common sense wants that. Brr-r-r-r!!

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  27. Have they blamed Russia for 9/11 and JFK assassination yet? Its coming. Maybe even figure out a way to blame them for USS Liberty attack too.

    By the way, those evil Russians warned us 9/11 attack was being planned before the attack happened:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly stated that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US in the summer of 2001 that suicide pilots were training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also stated, “We had clearly warned them” on several occasions, but they “did not pay the necessary attention.” [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01] The Russian newspaper Izvestia claimed that Russian intelligence agents knew the participants in the attacks, and: “More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation for these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.” [Izvestia, 9/12/02]

    Evil Russians also told us going into Iraq was a terrible idea:

    https://sputniknews.com/politics/201609091045123892-iraq-us-war-terrorism/

    Russia warned the United States about the spread of terrorism which would be triggered by the invasion of Iraq prior to the start of the US-led operation to topple former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, Russia’s former Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov told Sputnik.

    Maybe our “government” should start listening to Russia? Maybe reconsider who is our enemy and who is our ally?
    Iran next
    In recording, Netanyahu boasts Israel convinced Trump to quit Iran nuclear deal

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-recording-netanyahu-boasts-israel-convinced-trump-to-quit-iran-nuclear-deal/

    In a video clip aired Tuesday by Israeli television, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that Israel was responsible for US President Donald Trump’s decision to quit the Iran nuclear deal.

    In the video, which the Kan public broadcaster said was filmed two weeks ago, Netanyahu can be seen speaking to activists and senior members from his Likud party.

    “We convinced the US president [to exit the deal] and I had to stand up against the whole world and come out against this agreement,” Netanyahu says in the video. “And we didn’t give up.”

    They’re already planning a new false flag attack to be blamed on Iran, count on it. They will not stop until they get their war with Iran.

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    There were no Arab hijackers, there were no 9/11 planes to warn about, there were no 9/11 planes to intercept. And the City, State, and Federal government knew what was planned for that day and played their role and were prepared. And there were no three thousand victims killed (although there were a few accidents). Some millions of people's health was affected by the toxic residues of an illegal demolition, and millions were killed in fake wars and nations were destroyed. There was an insurance scam, a stock market scam and political hoax/psyop.
    Yes. There are real traitors everywhere and there is a rogue state. And the "Free Press" is a traitor to the people selling them out for money. Along with your "elected public servants."
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  28. Truth is WAY stranger than fiction.

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  29. segundo says:

    Thanks for the good, solid laughs! Hard to come by these days.

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  30. tac, if your reading —

    The American contribution —

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    I'm here to [at least partially] concede to you your condemnation of C-SPAN. Today they uncritically hosted Bill Browder, who is again hawking his book in the wake of his notoriety at Helsinki. Sickening to hear, unchallenged, Browder spreading his filthy fiction.

    His allegations have been thoroughly discredited, but that's how they roll, repeating their lies ad infinitum, suppressing any conflicting evidence such as Andrei Nekrasov's film. See it and share, before it's removed from the web. H/T to tac.
    THE MAGNITSKY ACT – BEHIND THE SCENES
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/
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  31. Poco says:
    @Anonymous
    It's really ridiculous for anyone to imagine that one man could even hope to reform the entire government bureaucracy, virtually every bit of which is violently opposed to him, and to any hint of said reform. And virtually every bit of which is monumentally, unapologetically corrupt.

    I'm no great fan of the man but even I am impressed by his high wire act, each new day of which is really a minor miracle.

    The best he can do is appoint judges that we hope will influence the justice system for the better.

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  32. “Perhaps they intend to continue conducting this experiment all the way up to 2020, just to see how paranoid and mindlessly conformist they make the majority of the Western public.”

    Well, considering how successful they were with Hopkins himself, why not?

    How much more mindlessly conformist can one be to the Jewish-occupied, sodomy- anointing media then by internalizing their commands not to take the name of the “Jew” in vain, neither blaspheme against their elevation of sodomy to the altars?

    Hopkins is scandalized, not by their chutzpah in declaring themselves God, but instead by their parading around their infidelity to their own commandments —which commandments he cannot even mention, so under their power is he, without simultaneously signaling himself to be in full compliance with those commandments.

    A fearless reporter is not he who exhibits fear of the Jews.

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  33. @jilles dykstra
    I wonder if the Deep Staters understand they're playing with fire.
    What will happen if, am not sure it will, USA public opinion turns against them, I wonder.
    The USA has more firearms among the population than the population number.

    What we’re seeing now is apparently the beginning of what led to more than 200 expulsions of Jews from host countries over the past centuries. Everything appears to be 100 percent under their control, until one day The Chosen Ones start overplaying their hand to the point where plain, ordinary folk, who believed they could do no wrong, start taking notice of things that people like you and I have known and talked about for 40+ years.

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  34. sally says:

    Whoa we dodged a bullet.I thought for a day Trump was supporting Putin and peace with Russia I

    see he is now on his apology tour for “misspeaking” so he is reined back in by the military complex and war it will be for the banksters .
    How crazy was Trump worrying about a little thing called peace.

    Meanwhile Putin sees the cards on the table and is getting his army prepared for the inevitable.
    I hope the propaganda media is happy now.War they want…so war if shall be.

    Russia Prepares To Cut All Ties With West

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2609.htm

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  35. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Both Trump and Putin are the zionist Jewish MAFIA servants. Both are under influence and direction of the criminal zionist Jews who have put these two traitors in power.

    Both in Syria are helping the apartheid entity- Israel – against Iran, Palestinians and people of the region including Syria. Putin has become a very rich man by serving the interests of the criminal zionist jews. Both must be exposed as a fifth column in the pockets of the zionist billionairs all over the world.

    Down with traits. Both are servant of the zionist project ‘world government’. Both have become rich by serving the interest of the criminal zionist jews, the enemy of humanity. DON’T BELIEVE THESE PATHOLOGICAL LIARS. THEY SERVE ZIONISTS for their own pockets, and to stay in power.

    Bring down zionism and their traitor agents.

    https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/helsinki-meeting-does-little-to-clarify-americas-syria-policy-by-joshua-landis/

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  36. The zionist cabal that is in control of the U.S. gov wants a war with Russia that the zionists believe will lead to the destruction of Russia and open the way for a zionist NWO/ONE WORLD GOV . This war will cause millions of deaths but the zionists believe that they can ride it out in their DUMBS aka Deep Underground Military Bases which the government has built through out the U.S. and has these bases connected via underground tunnels through out the U.S..

    The cabal feels that time is running out and thus the hysterical Russian hate being drilled into the minds of the American people by these desendants of the bolsheviks that took over and destroyed Russia in 1917. Their hatered of Russia is driven by the fact that Russia has become again a christian nation and this flies in the face of the zionist worship of satan and so Russia has to be destroyed.

    It just a matter of time before the satanic zionists force the U.S. into a war against Russia and contrary to the zionists belief, this war will be the destruction of both America and Russia, but this is what zionists do for the lord satan, zionists wreck and destroy as a sacrifice to satan.

    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

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  37. While continuing to flog the wildly popular baby concentration camp story (because the Hitler stimulus never fails to elicit a Pavlovian response from Americans, regardless of how often or how blatantly you use it), the corporate media began hammering hard on the “Trump is a Russian Agent” hysteria. (Normally, the corporate media alternates between the Hitler hysteria and the Russia hysteria so as not to completely short-circuit the already scrambled brains of Western liberals, but given the imminent threat of a peace deal, they needed to go the whole hog this time and paint this summit as a secret, internationally televised assignation between Hitler and … well, Hitler).

    I like to think that, even if I disagreed with Mr. Hopkins in this piece — which I don’t — I’d still enjoy the sheer artistry of his writing. Well done, sir, well done.

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  38. phil says:
    @Anon
    At least Old McCarthyism was a reaction to REAL espionage and infiltration.

    Harry Dexter White was a Soviet agent. Alger Hiss too. And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets.

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and 'hysteria' was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.

    But today's 'scare' is totally made up. And the US deep state has been totally infiltrated by the MIC or Military-Industrial-Complex types. And globo-homo machivellians who just love to play the power game. They are well-educated gangsters. They hate Russia because it knows the game.

    What is less well-known is that McCarthy was SUPPORTED financially by Jews, led primarily by Bernard Baruch, on the condition that, early on, he NOT highlight the Jewishness of a lot of the spies. Ann Coulter, who also depends on Jewish support, also refrained from highlighting the Jewishness of the spies in her book Treason. In fact, she harped on “WASPS with three names,” when, in fact, Harry Dexter White was a Jew whose family had decided to adopt a WASPish name.

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  39. Anon9988 says:
    @Greg Bacon
    Since everyone on the planet has heard the Holocau$t™ whoppers 6 million times and has been inundated with nasty Nazi imagery since birth, it's easy to figure out who's in control of the USA and most of the world.

    It's the ones who keep calling any leader they don't like--and want killed--the next Hitler, but never the next Stalin, since that ruthless despot orchestrated the brutal murder of around 66 million Russians is their hero and they would never use his name to slime their next target...

    A particularly eerie week here in America given the Russian observance of the 100th anniversary of the brutal murder of the entire Romanov family by Jews. The unsettling parallels are there every minute: a Jewish controlled media rabidly calling for the overthrow of the US government, Jews and their minions publicly calling for violence against the president and his family, swift and merciless retribution for anyone who dares to disagree with their agenda.

    As far as I know, calls to overthrow the US government are against the law (18 U.S. Code § 2385). Why aren’t these people being arrested?

    There is no question the US is living under zionist occupation, and it’s becoming clearer every day where this is all going to lead.

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    If they can they will do to American goyim what they did to the Soviet peoples and are doing to the Palestinians now.
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  40. fnn says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    if in fact this article is accurate,
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

    the game may be over. Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war. Not only has he backtracked, he has acknowledged that russia is a hostile actor against us interests. that admission says russia did more than seek information from spying,

    it was a mistake to make an open public war with our services while in helsinki. it was a mistake to backtrack from those comments and once he granted the veracity of the report, -- which in my view proves not a thing, except russia tv did not like sec clinton and had been long before the election.

    Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war.

    Courts have repeatedly ruled the DNC and RNC to be private organizations. I don’t see how hacking the computer of a private organization can be an “act of war.” Even if you provide some Talmudic explanation of why it is, it can never be legally proven in a court.

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    ...it can never be legally proven in a court.
     
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/muellers-latest-indictments-russians-politicized-pointless/

    Now, stop giggling over that last part — the bit where we hold our breath until Russian dictator Vladimir Putin extradites his spies into the FBI’s waiting arms. I’m talking about the first part: Mueller’s case, the definitive case about what Russia did to interfere in the 2016 election, is no longer Mueller’s case. It is being “transitioned” — i.e., buried — in the Justice Department unit that deals with counterintelligence matters that do not result in public trials.
     
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  41. @ThreeCranes
    Agree. In Trump's walking back his earlier statements he looked and sounded just terrible. Someone really did get to him, and it wasn't the Russkies. They must have rerun the Zapruder film for him in a private viewing.

    Laugh —-

    as a supporter, it’s painful to watch and I am nt sure he realizes the potential consequences.

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    I don't know, I kind of get a good laugh over what a fuss all these fools make of it. They play it again and again like it was actual news. They are delusional in the extreme like it will somehow end the Trump presidency. I think for all their gibberish about science and marches for science, they really have a strong belief in magic and fantasy.
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  42. The state of the American political class after the Helsinki summit most resembles the state of the cesspool after you throw a pack of yeast into it: the shit is foaming and seems boiling. This tells us a lot about the current state of the US political system. Nothing new, though: the system swallowed line, hook, and sinker totally nonsensical “Russiagate” hoax and ran away with it, the system accepted ridiculous accusations of the Butina girl, whose only fault was silliness (if you have a few brain cells, just think whether a spy or agent of influence would meticulously document his/her encounters on social media), etc. We are going downhill at an increasing speed. The crash seems inevitable.

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  43. Che Guava says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    C.J. Hopkins need to publish a separate book of the titles of his articles--it will be a delight to read. Great piece. As per this Nance guy (not the Eraserhead):

    At the same time, MSNBC’s Malcolm Nance took to Twitter to denounce Glenn Greenwald as a treasonous “agent of Trump and Moscow” for physically traveling to a conference in Russia and speaking with several Russian people. Nance, who usually just makes things up, was actually telling the truth this time. Greenwald really did visit Russia, and was selfied in the company of Edward Snowden, on top of which he’s totally gay, and God knows what kind of Commie orgies go on in the Kremlin dungeon!
     
    I am still puzzled by how this NCO, a cryptologist (that is mostly technician job) of a lower rank, continues to present himself as an Intelligence Officer, while his billet was not an officer position to start with. But if to throw away the fact that the guy never served as an officer, I wonder how's that this cryptologist technician can have such a "profound" insight into HUMINT and operations of influence by KGB and G(R)U. He claims he "studied" it, but my question--who would "teach" him based on what is even today a highly classified history of interaction of US-Russian intelligence organizations. Books? Sure, and late Tom Clancy was also an "expert" in Soviet Armed Forces, LOL. Nance is so patently stupid and uneducated, not to mention his non-stop lying that one has to ask a question--is this the best "left" can do? It seems like it.

    Andrei,

    I am confused by your reference to ‘NCO’.

    Sincere question, Greenwald is non-military, Snowden was non-military, and a civilian contractor for non-military sigint.

    So, I would guess that you are thinking of PFC Bradley Manning, who gained automatic promotions to become an NCO while in the brig (as did the lunatic Bode Miller, with different background but in the same timeframe).

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an ‘intelligence officer’, from the start.

    My mental reaction ‘Are these US forces and their intelligence ops. simply insane?’

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    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an ‘intelligence officer’, from the start.
     
    Wiki gives this info on this Nance Russia "expert" fellow.

    Early life and education

    Nance was born in Philadelphia, and attended the city's West Catholic Boys High School. He reportedly studied Spanish, French, and Latin languages, and took advantage of free classes in Russian and Chinese offered at South Philadelphia High School on Saturdays.[1] In 2011,[4] he received a bachelor of arts degree[5] from New York's Excelsior College.[6] Nance began working in the civilian intelligence arena through research into the history of the Soviet Union and its spying agency the KGB.[7] He subsequently analyzed Middle East terrorism and sovereign nations with ties to the Russian Federation.[7]
    Military career

    Nance served in the U.S. Navy for 20 years, from 1981 to 2001, receiving several military decorations.[8][1] As a U.S. Navy specialist in Naval Cryptology, Nance was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations.[9][10][11] He garnered expertise within the fields of intelligence and counterterrorism.[12][13][14] He was also an instructor in wartime and peacetime Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), training Navy and Marine Corps pilots and aircrew how to survive as a prisoner of war.[15][16] There Nance helped to initiate the Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival course of instruction.[1]

    Nance took part in combat operations that occurred after the 1983 Beirut barracks bombings, was peripherally involved with the 1986 United States bombing of Libya, served on USS Wainwright during Operation Praying Mantis and was aboard during the sinking of the Iranian missile boat Joshan, served on USS Tripoli during the Gulf War, and assisted during a Banja Luka, Bosnia air strike.[8]
     
    So, the guy serves as non-degreed "specialist" (in reality lower level technician) in the field where the basic requirement for even the starting officer position is:

    A four-year degree from a regionally accredited institution is required to work as a Cryptologic Warfare Officer. The degree must be in a technical field, preferably in one of the following: information systems, electrical engineering, computer engineering, information operations, computer science, systems engineering, general engineering.

    All candidates must also be: U.S. citizens, willing to serve worldwide, eligible for a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) security clearance, and qualified for sea duty.
     
    https://www.navy.com/careers/cryptologic-warfare

    The guy, long, 10 years, AFTER he exited Navy, gets his degree in some on-line college which offers NOT a single high level intelligence or military officer course, with some exception of certification courses in cyber-security, and he goes on to comment on some huge national security issues and the country of which he has no clue. I omit here his anti-terrorism and other "relevant" training--those "trainers" are a dime a dozen on a sunny day. So, here we have the guy who never got any serious education and training in fundamental precise sciences (Physics and High Level Math), military tactics, operational art, doctrine, geopolitics (from economic to military geography), to military history, to weapon systems, operational research--all mandatory and minimal requirements, plus service experience in tactical and operational command, to have at least some background for commenting on such issues. Obviously, real intelligence field was and is simply beyond service, academic, military etc. reach of Mr. Nance. I know number of American senior officers, and good professionals at that, with Ph.Ds and service record to boot which would make Nance look like a teenage amateur, yet even those bright and highly qualified people make their mistakes in relation to Russia. He is NO intelligence officer, never was and is certainly not Russia "expert". Not even close--just a typical BSer used to propagate all kinds of DNC and neocon garbage.
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  44. fnn says:
    @fnn

    Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war.
     
    Courts have repeatedly ruled the DNC and RNC to be private organizations. I don't see how hacking the computer of a private organization can be an "act of war." Even if you provide some Talmudic explanation of why it is, it can never be legally proven in a court.

    …it can never be legally proven in a court.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/muellers-latest-indictments-russians-politicized-pointless/

    Now, stop giggling over that last part — the bit where we hold our breath until Russian dictator Vladimir Putin extradites his spies into the FBI’s waiting arms. I’m talking about the first part: Mueller’s case, the definitive case about what Russia did to interfere in the 2016 election, is no longer Mueller’s case. It is being “transitioned” — i.e., buried — in the Justice Department unit that deals with counterintelligence matters that do not result in public trials.

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  45. Jake says:

    We indeed live in an insane age. Our Elites are nutty freaks of the worst sort.

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  46. EugeneGur says:

    Trumps has some of the right instincts – has had them since he was the Presidential candidates, and that’s why he won. He correctly senses the danger of the US continuing on the course the country has been on for some time now, which will inevitable end in the economic and political collapse. He is attempting to forestall that collapse.

    The problem is Trump has neither the brains nor the stamina for such an endeavor. Faced with the stiff opposition from the American thoroughly corrupt and imbecil “elite”, he prevaricates and vacillates ending up doing exactly the opposite of what is needed.

    It is a testament to the sad state of affairs in the US that the only person in the American political class who feels the need for changes happens to be Donald Trump.

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    Agreed, he is doing his best which I deeply respect and applaud him generously for. It's more than can be said for any other Westerner, really.

    The other problem is that it's hard for him to assemble a team, so he has to make due with what's around. He needs people who know how the swamp works, but those people are all corrupt neo cons.

    I believe Stephen Miller is his most valuable asset. Trump has done some good with refugee intakes, travel ban, affirmative action rollback, tariffs.

    A flawed saviour is better than no saviour at all. But... can he do the job? American demographics are still perilous and there is no evidence that they will swing our way anytime soon... and we know that demographics are destiny.
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  47. MacNucc11 says:
    @Anon
    At least Old McCarthyism was a reaction to REAL espionage and infiltration.

    Harry Dexter White was a Soviet agent. Alger Hiss too. And Rosenbergs sent Stalin the Bomb secrets.

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and 'hysteria' was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.

    But today's 'scare' is totally made up. And the US deep state has been totally infiltrated by the MIC or Military-Industrial-Complex types. And globo-homo machivellians who just love to play the power game. They are well-educated gangsters. They hate Russia because it knows the game.

    I was going to comment something along the same lines myself. My only gripe with C.J. Hopkins is his overuse of neo-McCarthyite. It is not neo-McCarthyite in that Joe McCarthy was dead on accurate in his accusations of communists in our government. I think that is a huge part of the hysteria against Putin is that our commies(yeah they never left) feel betrayed by Putin for not allowing the ongoing looting of Russia the and not bringing Russia in as a client state to the U.S. fold.

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    Yeah, right on. And we know who you are talking about.
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  48. MacNucc11 says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Laugh ----


    as a supporter, it's painful to watch and I am nt sure he realizes the potential consequences.

    I don’t know, I kind of get a good laugh over what a fuss all these fools make of it. They play it again and again like it was actual news. They are delusional in the extreme like it will somehow end the Trump presidency. I think for all their gibberish about science and marches for science, they really have a strong belief in magic and fantasy.

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    I am sure I am ahead of myself here. But I am concerned that President Trump has backed himself in a corner from which there is no easy escape.


    If he agrees with the report, better relations with Russia must include dealing with the russian actions against US democracy in country and the role of the russian president who ordered it.
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  49. KDM says:

    Watching “The Daily Trump Show” staring Trump, featuring the MSM with cameo appearances by the Deep State Collective is kind of like watching Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd.

    Seriously the Elmer MSM Fudd are constantly chasing that rascally rabbit, errr, I mean Trump but can’t ever quite catch him. (Also, Trumps orange and so are carrots, coincidence??? Nah)

    Or, another analogy. Trump is the LMC & Cos (Liberal Media Complex) Moby Dick. I just hope they don’t bring us down trying to catch that orange whale.

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  50. Mulegino1 says:

    I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than to risk peace in pursuit of politics

    Try to imagine if this rather “JFK’esque” statement had been written by Obama. The t-shirts would already be best sellers on Amazon. Rachel Maddow would have gone into her dykeish paroxysms – but they would be fits of hero worship instead of her monomaniacal obsession with and demonization of the Trump-Putin hybrid that lives in her head.

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    That was very clever of Trump's speechwriters, sticking a JFK-style antimetabole in there, because JFK was in exactly the same position as Trump is now: going over CIA's head to make peace with a Russian head of state. CIA would like to whack Trump too, but maybe they're bashful about it now that everybody's onto them. So for now they're relying on captive media propaganda for a vilification campaign.
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  51. The thing is there is no “left” in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can “adopt” a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

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    Except Britain destroyed Britain. Britain had a truly imperial run for hundreds of years but couldn’t keep it going into the 20th century with the anti-colonialist wave sweeping the globe. All those brown people (as you call them) decided they could very well govern themselves! (they’re still trying btw but it’s rough going all the same)

    Britain, the little island that could... Or can’t any longer actually. America had no hand in Britain’s downfall, that’s just times changing that did that. Without imperialism or some other strong backers (see America 20-21st century’s) Britain can not maintain its dominance or strength as a nation. It looks as though they’ve mostly given up on sovereignty as well (all but your own rednecks anyway).

    Sigh, I’m going to have to ping you for the “redneck” remark by the way.
    1). It’s doubtful that you’ve ever met a redneck (also those are not even the majority of deplorables as the rust belt populace are not rednecks, they basically live in the south).
    2). There is not a redneck alive that would want to live in your defeated little island overrun with non-assimilated middle-easterners who hate you, your country and everything you stand for. They will be fine in this sinking ship as they probably have a bunker stocked full of guns and ammo and years supply of food. They live for this $hite!

    So, I would tell you to go ahead and pack it in and move but I can’t think of another Western European country that will not be in the same boat as Britain, sooner rather than later.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    A comment with little understanding of the American situation. As another writer mentioned, they key trump voters are in the Midwest, while rednecks are typically from the Deep South.

    At least rednecks are proud- how many muslim grooming gangs have there been in the USA? American whites are not afraid to shoot and America has favourable self defense laws.

    Sorry but England is fucked up for good.
    , @Patricus
    Not sure what you mean by "left" in Germany. In the US the left would be inclined to sympathize with government ownership of most corporations and curtailed civil liberties. Maybe 25% of Americans are leftists. They never hold power for long.
    , @FB
    The trouble is that most people here would not understand what 'left' actually means...

    The only way to save the US at this point in time would be to nationalize the banks and the MIC...even PCR proposes this...and one could hardly accuse him of being a 'lefty' [whatever that means anymore...]

    For those people who don't understand what 'left' actually means...it means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system and acting on behalf of the people...nationalizing crime syndicates like the banks and the defense production sector would immediately give Americans a fairer share of the pie...money that now goes into the pockets of legalized hustlers and flim-flam men...

    The whole immigration thing is about cheap labor...who do you think actually benefits from immigration...?...some imaginary SJWs or the entire capitalist sector who get what is basically indentured servitude...?

    The American people are the most abused people on the planet...they have shit for jobs...they slave for the banks their entire lives...is this what it's supposed to be like...?

    Even in China people have a better deal...and they were starving a generation or two ago...
    , @Jeff Stryker
    "WE ARE GERMAN PEOPLES"

    The German men with any initiative and balls moved to the German enclaves or New York and the Upper Midwest and Texas hill country.

    German-Americans who return to visit their relatives are shocked at how lame and cucked the average German today is compared to their own tough brash Bavarian grandparents. It is as if the testosterone was sucked out Germany between the Bismark era and the Cold War when any German male with any initiative at all moved to the United States or to a lesser degree other Western countries.

    I have to say that NAZI war criminals did quite well in the United States after the war-most of them moved directly to Texas or Minnesota. Heck, there was one Nazi doctor in my suburb who was a GP and half of his patients were Jews. He ate his lunch at the local Jewish deli everyday. Do you think he feared Jews? Nope. He could care less about them and the war was over. Time to get on with life.

    Trump is the son of a German citizen by law (Conceived in Germany, born in the United States). Of course Trump's father was a Bavarian-this is why Trump is brash, fearless and a barking junkyard dog, for better or worse. His own distant cousin in the German parliament who disowned him is a homo cuck who probably lets Muslim refugees pull his trousers down in public and sodomize him.

    To see the real Germany, one must visit the Texas hill country or Southern Wisconsin. These are the Germans not slouching about in shame over a 70 year old war who fight in other countries over football tickets.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    DEN


    This is all true in fact. The only advantage is that the Muslims and refugees that choose Germany over some half-Arab Southern European poor country like Malta or Albania also are not attracted to life with no safety net in the United States.

    Or at least not as many of them.

    And while "Left"might work in your country all it will do in the US is be squandered on unemployable blacks and Hispanics and create corrupt police officers.

    Australia's minimum wage hike is a good idea. However, you know poor white Republicans and their brainwashing by the 1% ruling elite who lead them to believe a livable wage would be Communist and destroy the economy because business owners would close down if they had to pay a decent wage.

    Not that such a thing can even be leverage on the corporations owning the US lock, stock and barrel.
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  52. @Anonsky

    "or just kill him, or whatever",

     

    People who suggest harming the president should be visited by the
    Secret Service or whatever.

    But that’s the DNC game. It’s not impeachment;it’s the A word. Excite the mob of crazies to do your dirty work. It’s the best way to move the Undesirable from office. No need to get your hands dirty and you don’t wind up in the pokey. So the DNC controlled media keeps up the pressure and the invective. It’s so nice it’ll make a DNC man,woman,or man-woman/woman-man cream their jeans.

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  53. @Harold Smith
    "And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands."

    Perhaps the whole thing is just political theater in which Orange Clown is a knowing, willing participant...just like it's been since Orange Clown began his fraudulent presidential campaign?

    Did Orange Clown get the U.S. out of NATO? No. Did Orange Clown demand an investigation into 9/11? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Afghanistan? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Syria? No. Did Orange Clown reverse the military buildup in Europe threatening Russia? No.

    What of substance has Orange Clown actually done to obstruct or reverse the "deep state" agenda for world domination and control, or to attack the "deep state" itself? Little or nothing, apparently.

    Thus when the stench of Orange Clown's fraudulence becomes unbearable (as it periodically does), the "deep state" have to give their hapless puppet a shot of "credibility." So (rather than investigate 9/11, pull out of Syria, or lift sanctions on Russia) they have him call Putin on the phone and congratulate him for his election victory while they make a big deal out of the carefully calculated "treason." Or they send him to England to feast on the political carrion of their loyal servant, Theresa May (who had to be sacrificed for the greater good), thereby picking up some faux credibility with the true believers; or they arrange a meaningless "summit" with Vladimir Putin and again make a big deal out of it, etc.

    It seems Orange Clown is steering the Titanic into the iceberg with one hand while furiously rearranging the deck chairs with the other. And our attention is always directed to the deck chair rearrangement.

    Orange Clown has not been impeached, yet, and has not been murdered, yet, despite steering the Titantic in an opposite course, away from the iceberg of sure destruction.
    You greatly underestimate Orange Clown, in my opinion.
    No USA president in just 500 days changed so much.

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  54. @EliteCommInc.
    if in fact this article is accurate,
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-putin-2016-election-russia-cbs

    the game may be over. Not for any kind of collusion, but admitting the case that russia hacked the dnc and over turned an election, any further talks about cooperation will most end. After all, even the attempt to overturn an election us a act of war. Not only has he backtracked, he has acknowledged that russia is a hostile actor against us interests. that admission says russia did more than seek information from spying,

    it was a mistake to make an open public war with our services while in helsinki. it was a mistake to backtrack from those comments and once he granted the veracity of the report, -- which in my view proves not a thing, except russia tv did not like sec clinton and had been long before the election.

    Soros owns the Guardian

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    That may be, but other sources acknowledge that the current president has made the comment and as such has done himself a "blow" for his opponents.


    The number of mistakes in a two day period, has forced him into a position that would also force him to be adversarial with the Russians.


    There is no escaping that fact. Furthermore, his backtracking appears hapless and suggests he vulnerable to the point of guilt.


    Now, I don't buy the report as it lacks evidence. i think the intel community is in deep trouble based on their own performance. And the president's back down has enabled them to position the admin to support regime change and other interventionists schemes if for no other reason, to combat russia.


    maybe this admission is nothing but a fly in the ointment, but if i opposed this president, this week would be steak, baked potato, corn on the cob with apple pie vanilla ala mode for desert. Enjoyable fattening meal.

    1. standing next to the accused he countered the narrative.

    2. next day says he mispoke
    3. followed by he trusts the intel community
    4. blames Pres Putin for the election operation
    5. meaning:

    he thinks President Putin lied
    russia did in fact engage in an attempt overthrow or disrupt - democracy in the us
    thereby granting out that the russians are in fact an active enemy of the and
    the us demands the immediate extradition of all involved for trial
    the US must challenge Russian behavior as a threat to US goals and global tranquility


    the fact that george soros owns the paper -- is utterly inconsequential.

    He could have ameliorated his initial mistake but his attempt treat it as a misunderstanding has led to real problems for him.

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  55. Today in the Netherlands was MH17 remembrance day.
    As it is sure that Russia did it, why, nobody seems to be interested or to know, it was a great shock that the usual USA MH17 declaration was withdrawn.
    Why this was withdrawn, a White House spokesperson did not seem to know, but she confirmed that the USA sees Russia as who did it.

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    As it is sure that Russia did it
     
    Declarations don't make this true.

    I wonder whether the people of the Netherlands want to know what really happened instead of being satisfied with that ridiculous narrative they've been fed. One would think that with the matter as serious as this the people of a supposedly democratic country would demand an investigation, not a farce. Apparently not.

    Does anyone in the country have a brain cell working?
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  56. @MacNucc11
    I was going to comment something along the same lines myself. My only gripe with C.J. Hopkins is his overuse of neo-McCarthyite. It is not neo-McCarthyite in that Joe McCarthy was dead on accurate in his accusations of communists in our government. I think that is a huge part of the hysteria against Putin is that our commies(yeah they never left) feel betrayed by Putin for not allowing the ongoing looting of Russia the and not bringing Russia in as a client state to the U.S. fold.

    Yeah, right on. And we know who you are talking about.

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  57. tac says:

    OT:

    Bombshell documentary movie by Russian director: (Andrei Nekrasov) shines the light on Bill Browder, the central figure in the infamous Magnitsky Act, (that has been banned in many countries in Europe and deleted from YouTube as soon as it is published)
    is now available on bitchute here:

    THE MAGNITSKY ACT – BEHIND THE SCENES
    (about 2 hours long)

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

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    Wow. I've read about this film, and been meaning to watch. Thanks.

    The funny thing is that right from the beginning of the film Browder looked like he was lying, only Nekrasov [the film maker] didn't know it yet. This is the moment to circulate this, although the ADHD crowd will find it hard going.
    , @AnonFromTN
    The very fact that this movie was deleted almost everywhere suggests that it must be true. Lies are never so consistently deleted from all Western resources. This is natural: nobody is so scared of lies, as they can be debunked, whereas the truth can only be deleted.
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  58. KDM says:
    @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    Except Britain destroyed Britain. Britain had a truly imperial run for hundreds of years but couldn’t keep it going into the 20th century with the anti-colonialist wave sweeping the globe. All those brown people (as you call them) decided they could very well govern themselves! (they’re still trying btw but it’s rough going all the same)

    Britain, the little island that could… Or can’t any longer actually. America had no hand in Britain’s downfall, that’s just times changing that did that. Without imperialism or some other strong backers (see America 20-21st century’s) Britain can not maintain its dominance or strength as a nation. It looks as though they’ve mostly given up on sovereignty as well (all but your own rednecks anyway).

    Sigh, I’m going to have to ping you for the “redneck” remark by the way.
    1). It’s doubtful that you’ve ever met a redneck (also those are not even the majority of deplorables as the rust belt populace are not rednecks, they basically live in the south).
    2). There is not a redneck alive that would want to live in your defeated little island overrun with non-assimilated middle-easterners who hate you, your country and everything you stand for. They will be fine in this sinking ship as they probably have a bunker stocked full of guns and ammo and years supply of food. They live for this $hite!

    So, I would tell you to go ahead and pack it in and move but I can’t think of another Western European country that will not be in the same boat as Britain, sooner rather than later.

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    Mr. Derbyshire has put up a very interesting piece about how Kipling assisted the suicide by absurdly being an infantry officer in a war against an adequately armed and trained adversary of his so-myopic-as-to-be-technically-blind son.

    http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Reviews/Considerations/kipling.html


    The profession of military officer in [Joseph Rudyard] Kipling's youth was not sensationally dangerous.
     

    When John Kipling's very poor eyesight (6/36 in both eyes — he could not read the second line of an optician's chart unaided) threatened to prevent his enlisting at the outbreak of war, his father pulled strings to secure him a commission in the Irish Guards. John was killed in his first action, on one account being shot in the head while storming a German machine-gun position, on another "crying" — probably a euphemism for "screaming" — in agony with half his face blown away.

     

    The “natives” massacred by the british for a century at that point for the most phenomenal plunder in human history had no machine-gun positions, playing their usual murderous games against an adversery who could actually shoot back was what ruined the Empire.

    The techniques of propaganda developed against Germany then are time proven and they work every time, then as they do now. Whenever you wonder what disinformation is served you right now, please do remember the Germans: they had to bear the brunt of it – and the very real consequences – for a century now.

    As Mr. Kipling sums it up in his one truthful verse, the one Mr. Derbyshire sadly but, given his agenda understandably leaves out:


    If any question why we died,
    Tell them, because our fathers lied

     

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  59. Svigor says:

    If I believed that Putin was controlling Trump, I’d be forced to thank Putin for his pro-American agenda, and cheer him on.

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  61. @Harold Smith
    "And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands."

    Perhaps the whole thing is just political theater in which Orange Clown is a knowing, willing participant...just like it's been since Orange Clown began his fraudulent presidential campaign?

    Did Orange Clown get the U.S. out of NATO? No. Did Orange Clown demand an investigation into 9/11? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Afghanistan? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Syria? No. Did Orange Clown reverse the military buildup in Europe threatening Russia? No.

    What of substance has Orange Clown actually done to obstruct or reverse the "deep state" agenda for world domination and control, or to attack the "deep state" itself? Little or nothing, apparently.

    Thus when the stench of Orange Clown's fraudulence becomes unbearable (as it periodically does), the "deep state" have to give their hapless puppet a shot of "credibility." So (rather than investigate 9/11, pull out of Syria, or lift sanctions on Russia) they have him call Putin on the phone and congratulate him for his election victory while they make a big deal out of the carefully calculated "treason." Or they send him to England to feast on the political carrion of their loyal servant, Theresa May (who had to be sacrificed for the greater good), thereby picking up some faux credibility with the true believers; or they arrange a meaningless "summit" with Vladimir Putin and again make a big deal out of it, etc.

    It seems Orange Clown is steering the Titanic into the iceberg with one hand while furiously rearranging the deck chairs with the other. And our attention is always directed to the deck chair rearrangement.

    Harold Smith, you have nailed it! It is a masterfully constructed play, and POTUS is acting his part well. It is amazing to see so many otherwise credulous people suckered into taking this ridiculous bait. The big story this is engineered to conceal is the state of the economy of the West. The globalists must utterly destroy the middle classes(particularly of the US, with all their guns), and it is imperative(for them)to carefully engineer the disaster so they will not become victims of their own sabotage. I do not think it can be stopped, but I have high hopes they miscalculate so that their desperate measures blow up in their own faces. We can hope for that.

    Not that it will make much difference in the long run. Mankind’s problems run much deeper even than all this drama and chicanery. We still have too many people on the planet and too little of the indispensable energy source required to make our civilization run as it historically has, so even after the smoke has cleared, we had better become genuine Homo sapiens, or we will be doomed to repeat the errors until there finally are no more of us. As I have said before, at least then the roaches will be able to live in a world without worry about the kids stumbling upon a boric acid tablet.

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  62. @Che Guava
    Andrei,

    I am confused by your reference to 'NCO'.

    Sincere question, Greenwald is non-military, Snowden was non-military, and a civilian contractor for non-military sigint.

    So, I would guess that you are thinking of PFC Bradley Manning, who gained automatic promotions to become an NCO while in the brig (as did the lunatic Bode Miller, with different background but in the same timeframe).

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an 'intelligence officer', from the start.

    My mental reaction 'Are these US forces and their intelligence ops. simply insane?'

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an ‘intelligence officer’, from the start.

    Wiki gives this info on this Nance Russia “expert” fellow.

    Early life and education

    Nance was born in Philadelphia, and attended the city’s West Catholic Boys High School. He reportedly studied Spanish, French, and Latin languages, and took advantage of free classes in Russian and Chinese offered at South Philadelphia High School on Saturdays.[1] In 2011,[4] he received a bachelor of arts degree[5] from New York’s Excelsior College.[6] Nance began working in the civilian intelligence arena through research into the history of the Soviet Union and its spying agency the KGB.[7] He subsequently analyzed Middle East terrorism and sovereign nations with ties to the Russian Federation.[7]
    Military career

    Nance served in the U.S. Navy for 20 years, from 1981 to 2001, receiving several military decorations.[8][1] As a U.S. Navy specialist in Naval Cryptology, Nance was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations.[9][10][11] He garnered expertise within the fields of intelligence and counterterrorism.[12][13][14] He was also an instructor in wartime and peacetime Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), training Navy and Marine Corps pilots and aircrew how to survive as a prisoner of war.[15][16] There Nance helped to initiate the Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival course of instruction.[1]

    Nance took part in combat operations that occurred after the 1983 Beirut barracks bombings, was peripherally involved with the 1986 United States bombing of Libya, served on USS Wainwright during Operation Praying Mantis and was aboard during the sinking of the Iranian missile boat Joshan, served on USS Tripoli during the Gulf War, and assisted during a Banja Luka, Bosnia air strike.[8]

    So, the guy serves as non-degreed “specialist” (in reality lower level technician) in the field where the basic requirement for even the starting officer position is:

    A four-year degree from a regionally accredited institution is required to work as a Cryptologic Warfare Officer. The degree must be in a technical field, preferably in one of the following: information systems, electrical engineering, computer engineering, information operations, computer science, systems engineering, general engineering.

    All candidates must also be: U.S. citizens, willing to serve worldwide, eligible for a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) security clearance, and qualified for sea duty.

    https://www.navy.com/careers/cryptologic-warfare

    The guy, long, 10 years, AFTER he exited Navy, gets his degree in some on-line college which offers NOT a single high level intelligence or military officer course, with some exception of certification courses in cyber-security, and he goes on to comment on some huge national security issues and the country of which he has no clue. I omit here his anti-terrorism and other “relevant” training–those “trainers” are a dime a dozen on a sunny day. So, here we have the guy who never got any serious education and training in fundamental precise sciences (Physics and High Level Math), military tactics, operational art, doctrine, geopolitics (from economic to military geography), to military history, to weapon systems, operational research–all mandatory and minimal requirements, plus service experience in tactical and operational command, to have at least some background for commenting on such issues. Obviously, real intelligence field was and is simply beyond service, academic, military etc. reach of Mr. Nance. I know number of American senior officers, and good professionals at that, with Ph.Ds and service record to boot which would make Nance look like a teenage amateur, yet even those bright and highly qualified people make their mistakes in relation to Russia. He is NO intelligence officer, never was and is certainly not Russia “expert”. Not even close–just a typical BSer used to propagate all kinds of DNC and neocon garbage.

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    Sounds like he was in what used to be (still may be) the Naval Security Group(NSG). They had several types of Communication Technicians (CT)(branchers) including Administrative, Operating, Technical , Radio and Language, who were called if I remember, I branch.
    There primary duties were intercepting and recording other countries official and back- channel communications. This is why there were a number on the USS Pueblo and the USS Liberty as well another ship the Oxford. Undoubtibly, much of what they did is now done by computers and robots. However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis. With Nance wide ranging experience in the survival activities and other non CT duties his skills would have deteriorated when he was away from his position. It would be interesting if any of his former shipmates remember him and anything about his accomplishments. I understand there are sites on the web that can bring up the good or bad about former military folks without looking into the official records. Remember John Kerry refused to allow his record to be unsealed, yet, a great deal was revealed about him by a number of men who served with or near him.
    , @Che Guava
    Thank you, Andrei, never hearing of this one before.

    Only 'Nance'I was noticing before was the actor favoured by David Lynch, and sad story of his death.

    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.

    I do not know what to think, even now, except that it was the last of many good SF films from the USSR, and great. Also seems to have supported coup d'etat there.
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  63. Polly Frost says: • Website

    Brilliant. I keep reading tweets by paranoiacs advocating a violent coup over this, and they’re usually the same people who were not so long ago advocating gun control. I suspect that, given their ignorance about guns and the majority of people who own them, they aren’t very practiced at using them, which is at least some kind of reassurance in the midst of this insanity.

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  64. Trump is right. The news is fake. Every reaction to anything he does is exaggerated or taken out of context. The Tone of the news is a clear example of propaganda.

    Fake news called Trump a “Russian agent”. I can’t laugh any louder about this one.

    Fake news said Melania looked “horrified” after shaking Putin’s hand. No, she didn’t. In fact, she looked quite comfortable.

    You have to be an idiot to believe this stuff. Unfortunately, America is full of idiots.

    Keep calling them out President Trump.

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    It is pretty ridiculous what they do now in the media. Any fake semblance of impartiality has been thrown to the wind. It is all about distortion, mocking, ridicule, etc.
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  65. chris says:

    You’d think that if Putin was such an evil guy and that you would be instantly defiled by just being in his presence, that our deep state propaganda organ (the MSM) would also save some of its venom for any other “world leader” who would dare to cross our line in the sand.

    But unless I missed it, our greatest ally since sliced bread, Bibi Yahoo, hasn’t been chewed out for committing the same offense as Trump. Will none of the MSM, in our darkest hour, ask Bibi to lift a finger to help us isolate Putin?

    They’re not afraid Bibi would lift quite a different finger at them, are they? (The charade is on his orders after all)

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  66. EugeneGur says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Today in the Netherlands was MH17 remembrance day.
    As it is sure that Russia did it, why, nobody seems to be interested or to know, it was a great shock that the usual USA MH17 declaration was withdrawn.
    Why this was withdrawn, a White House spokesperson did not seem to know, but she confirmed that the USA sees Russia as who did it.

    As it is sure that Russia did it

    Declarations don’t make this true.

    I wonder whether the people of the Netherlands want to know what really happened instead of being satisfied with that ridiculous narrative they’ve been fed. One would think that with the matter as serious as this the people of a supposedly democratic country would demand an investigation, not a farce. Apparently not.

    Does anyone in the country have a brain cell working?

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  67. prusmc says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an ‘intelligence officer’, from the start.
     
    Wiki gives this info on this Nance Russia "expert" fellow.

    Early life and education

    Nance was born in Philadelphia, and attended the city's West Catholic Boys High School. He reportedly studied Spanish, French, and Latin languages, and took advantage of free classes in Russian and Chinese offered at South Philadelphia High School on Saturdays.[1] In 2011,[4] he received a bachelor of arts degree[5] from New York's Excelsior College.[6] Nance began working in the civilian intelligence arena through research into the history of the Soviet Union and its spying agency the KGB.[7] He subsequently analyzed Middle East terrorism and sovereign nations with ties to the Russian Federation.[7]
    Military career

    Nance served in the U.S. Navy for 20 years, from 1981 to 2001, receiving several military decorations.[8][1] As a U.S. Navy specialist in Naval Cryptology, Nance was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations.[9][10][11] He garnered expertise within the fields of intelligence and counterterrorism.[12][13][14] He was also an instructor in wartime and peacetime Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), training Navy and Marine Corps pilots and aircrew how to survive as a prisoner of war.[15][16] There Nance helped to initiate the Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival course of instruction.[1]

    Nance took part in combat operations that occurred after the 1983 Beirut barracks bombings, was peripherally involved with the 1986 United States bombing of Libya, served on USS Wainwright during Operation Praying Mantis and was aboard during the sinking of the Iranian missile boat Joshan, served on USS Tripoli during the Gulf War, and assisted during a Banja Luka, Bosnia air strike.[8]
     
    So, the guy serves as non-degreed "specialist" (in reality lower level technician) in the field where the basic requirement for even the starting officer position is:

    A four-year degree from a regionally accredited institution is required to work as a Cryptologic Warfare Officer. The degree must be in a technical field, preferably in one of the following: information systems, electrical engineering, computer engineering, information operations, computer science, systems engineering, general engineering.

    All candidates must also be: U.S. citizens, willing to serve worldwide, eligible for a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) security clearance, and qualified for sea duty.
     
    https://www.navy.com/careers/cryptologic-warfare

    The guy, long, 10 years, AFTER he exited Navy, gets his degree in some on-line college which offers NOT a single high level intelligence or military officer course, with some exception of certification courses in cyber-security, and he goes on to comment on some huge national security issues and the country of which he has no clue. I omit here his anti-terrorism and other "relevant" training--those "trainers" are a dime a dozen on a sunny day. So, here we have the guy who never got any serious education and training in fundamental precise sciences (Physics and High Level Math), military tactics, operational art, doctrine, geopolitics (from economic to military geography), to military history, to weapon systems, operational research--all mandatory and minimal requirements, plus service experience in tactical and operational command, to have at least some background for commenting on such issues. Obviously, real intelligence field was and is simply beyond service, academic, military etc. reach of Mr. Nance. I know number of American senior officers, and good professionals at that, with Ph.Ds and service record to boot which would make Nance look like a teenage amateur, yet even those bright and highly qualified people make their mistakes in relation to Russia. He is NO intelligence officer, never was and is certainly not Russia "expert". Not even close--just a typical BSer used to propagate all kinds of DNC and neocon garbage.

    Sounds like he was in what used to be (still may be) the Naval Security Group(NSG). They had several types of Communication Technicians (CT)(branchers) including Administrative, Operating, Technical , Radio and Language, who were called if I remember, I branch.
    There primary duties were intercepting and recording other countries official and back- channel communications. This is why there were a number on the USS Pueblo and the USS Liberty as well another ship the Oxford. Undoubtibly, much of what they did is now done by computers and robots. However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis. With Nance wide ranging experience in the survival activities and other non CT duties his skills would have deteriorated when he was away from his position. It would be interesting if any of his former shipmates remember him and anything about his accomplishments. I understand there are sites on the web that can bring up the good or bad about former military folks without looking into the official records. Remember John Kerry refused to allow his record to be unsealed, yet, a great deal was revealed about him by a number of men who served with or near him.

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    However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis
     
    Exactly! It is about possessing the tools (they come with education and experience, both) allowing one to expand into serious analytical field. Especially in issues related to military and intelligence. Nance simply has none in his background. He might have been good at his job during service but judging by what he puts out--which is plain trash and lies--he is absolutely not qualified in any of serious analytical fields, least of them Russia.
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  68. [Proper spelling, punctuation, and spacing are important factors if you wish your comments to be published.]

    I have often cited my deep disappointment with the traditional (rich,corporate) liberal left in the USA. How did they go from pacifist to calling for War with Russia, Ucraine, Syria, Yemen, etc. !!!!, how did they go from the party of the working class to global free traders lovingly.!!!! Now the LEFT allied with the Neocon/Warhacks military industrial/financial complex unbelievable1!!!!. But liberal DEM still sane minority pointing the party towards moderation, autocritism, self restrain at the doors of the MIDterms elections being oppressed and run out of the party..

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    The NEOcons, MSM, industrial financial (zio/jewish)complex completely ignoring the Dem/DNC electoral fraud, the Seth Rich murder, Awan Bros/Wasserman spying ring, Podestas, BClinton, sordid sex perversions, Obamas ultimately so fake legacy, Uranium One deal, pay fro play, the Haity Clinton looting, the FBI,CIA,NSA,MSM, CNN, MSNBC and the Syllicon Valley open, express collusion with HClinton. An now the deepstate (zio jewish) is ready to perpetrate a coup over false hoax allegations, a blatant effort to destroy 200yrs+ of American democracy (give and take a few), electoral transitions, into open Tyrannical coporate zio fascist one party rule Rhinocrats. This impeachment, coup seeks to demolish the popular capacity to resist (deplorables) and close any illusionary hopes for political electoral rule, who will fire the first shot (Fort Sumter), ??? The violent verbal diarrhea from the DEM geriatric OLD white leadership (Mad Maxine, Schumer, Pelosi, Biden etc.) may lead to bloodshed, It seem that the deplorables goyim may finally wake up and start a mass (armed) resistance will the Military Constitutionalists (factions) whom took an oath will they sit silently???. All this over a Trump/Putin summit that 2yrs ago would had been lauded as was the Obama/Putin meetings. Many world leaders hade met with Putin even Pm. Natanyahu, the POPE, Macron, Mekel, Xi Ping etc. are they also puppets??? The DEM s should retreat and REevaluate and concentrate in winning ELECTIONS let go of the past, 2016 is gone and the midterms elections for 2018 are around the corner….PD…Enough of this imperial INconstitutional Rotsenstein/Mueller Cabal. As the Chinese saying goes….be careful what you (dems) wish for (impeachment) you just may ge it…even with more open (deplorable) rebellion.

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  69. @EugeneGur
    Trumps has some of the right instincts - has had them since he was the Presidential candidates, and that's why he won. He correctly senses the danger of the US continuing on the course the country has been on for some time now, which will inevitable end in the economic and political collapse. He is attempting to forestall that collapse.

    The problem is Trump has neither the brains nor the stamina for such an endeavor. Faced with the stiff opposition from the American thoroughly corrupt and imbecil "elite", he prevaricates and vacillates ending up doing exactly the opposite of what is needed.

    It is a testament to the sad state of affairs in the US that the only person in the American political class who feels the need for changes happens to be Donald Trump.

    Agreed, he is doing his best which I deeply respect and applaud him generously for. It’s more than can be said for any other Westerner, really.

    The other problem is that it’s hard for him to assemble a team, so he has to make due with what’s around. He needs people who know how the swamp works, but those people are all corrupt neo cons.

    I believe Stephen Miller is his most valuable asset. Trump has done some good with refugee intakes, travel ban, affirmative action rollback, tariffs.

    A flawed saviour is better than no saviour at all. But… can he do the job? American demographics are still perilous and there is no evidence that they will swing our way anytime soon… and we know that demographics are destiny.

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  70. @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    A comment with little understanding of the American situation. As another writer mentioned, they key trump voters are in the Midwest, while rednecks are typically from the Deep South.

    At least rednecks are proud- how many muslim grooming gangs have there been in the USA? American whites are not afraid to shoot and America has favourable self defense laws.

    Sorry but England is fucked up for good.

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    At least rednecks are proud- how many muslim grooming gangs have there been in the USA? American whites are not afraid to shoot and America has favourable self defense laws.
     
    Often Rednecks are conflated with plain (trailer) white trash. Why this sometimes is true, "redneckness" comes from old times when people hard working in fields had their necks burned by the sun. It is a euphemism for simpletons but namely working simpletons. Many rednecks even today are hard-working folks, unlike trailer trash which sits mostly on welfare, does drugs and procreates.
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  71. MacNucc11 says:
    @Guy Smiley
    Trump is right. The news is fake. Every reaction to anything he does is exaggerated or taken out of context. The Tone of the news is a clear example of propaganda.

    Fake news called Trump a "Russian agent". I can't laugh any louder about this one.

    Fake news said Melania looked "horrified" after shaking Putin's hand. No, she didn't. In fact, she looked quite comfortable.

    You have to be an idiot to believe this stuff. Unfortunately, America is full of idiots.

    Keep calling them out President Trump.

    It is pretty ridiculous what they do now in the media. Any fake semblance of impartiality has been thrown to the wind. It is all about distortion, mocking, ridicule, etc.

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    Question for Chuck "shomer"Schumer: Is it Sunday yet?
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  72. Asknot says:
    @Mulegino1

    I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than to risk peace in pursuit of politics
     
    Try to imagine if this rather "JFK'esque" statement had been written by Obama. The t-shirts would already be best sellers on Amazon. Rachel Maddow would have gone into her dykeish paroxysms - but they would be fits of hero worship instead of her monomaniacal obsession with and demonization of the Trump-Putin hybrid that lives in her head.

    That was very clever of Trump’s speechwriters, sticking a JFK-style antimetabole in there, because JFK was in exactly the same position as Trump is now: going over CIA’s head to make peace with a Russian head of state. CIA would like to whack Trump too, but maybe they’re bashful about it now that everybody’s onto them. So for now they’re relying on captive media propaganda for a vilification campaign.

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    I agree 100 percent. There is a simple reason that they have not already done so: the internet. The people- at least the people with an IQ above room temperature- are wise to them.
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  73. @Harold Smith
    "And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands."

    Perhaps the whole thing is just political theater in which Orange Clown is a knowing, willing participant...just like it's been since Orange Clown began his fraudulent presidential campaign?

    Did Orange Clown get the U.S. out of NATO? No. Did Orange Clown demand an investigation into 9/11? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Afghanistan? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Syria? No. Did Orange Clown reverse the military buildup in Europe threatening Russia? No.

    What of substance has Orange Clown actually done to obstruct or reverse the "deep state" agenda for world domination and control, or to attack the "deep state" itself? Little or nothing, apparently.

    Thus when the stench of Orange Clown's fraudulence becomes unbearable (as it periodically does), the "deep state" have to give their hapless puppet a shot of "credibility." So (rather than investigate 9/11, pull out of Syria, or lift sanctions on Russia) they have him call Putin on the phone and congratulate him for his election victory while they make a big deal out of the carefully calculated "treason." Or they send him to England to feast on the political carrion of their loyal servant, Theresa May (who had to be sacrificed for the greater good), thereby picking up some faux credibility with the true believers; or they arrange a meaningless "summit" with Vladimir Putin and again make a big deal out of it, etc.

    It seems Orange Clown is steering the Titanic into the iceberg with one hand while furiously rearranging the deck chairs with the other. And our attention is always directed to the deck chair rearrangement.

    Orange clown has cast doubt by showing the world that despite what the news media are telling us, Russia and the West really can get along together. Orange clown isn’t as thick as people are making him out to be. In fact orange clown is very clever!

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    He is a very clever actor, and you mistake the acting for reality.p
    , @Harold Smith
    Orange Clown has shown the world that he can't be trusted; nothing that he says or does can be taken at face value, IMO.

    If Orange Clown wants to be taken seriously for a change, it'll take more than disingenuous posturing; he'll actually have to follow through and do something meaningful.
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  74. @jilles dykstra
    Soros owns the Guardian

    That may be, but other sources acknowledge that the current president has made the comment and as such has done himself a “blow” for his opponents.

    The number of mistakes in a two day period, has forced him into a position that would also force him to be adversarial with the Russians.

    There is no escaping that fact. Furthermore, his backtracking appears hapless and suggests he vulnerable to the point of guilt.

    Now, I don’t buy the report as it lacks evidence. i think the intel community is in deep trouble based on their own performance. And the president’s back down has enabled them to position the admin to support regime change and other interventionists schemes if for no other reason, to combat russia.

    maybe this admission is nothing but a fly in the ointment, but if i opposed this president, this week would be steak, baked potato, corn on the cob with apple pie vanilla ala mode for desert. Enjoyable fattening meal.

    1. standing next to the accused he countered the narrative.

    2. next day says he mispoke
    3. followed by he trusts the intel community
    4. blames Pres Putin for the election operation
    5. meaning:

    he thinks President Putin lied
    russia did in fact engage in an attempt overthrow or disrupt – democracy in the us
    thereby granting out that the russians are in fact an active enemy of the and
    the us demands the immediate extradition of all involved for trial
    the US must challenge Russian behavior as a threat to US goals and global tranquility

    the fact that george soros owns the paper — is utterly inconsequential.

    He could have ameliorated his initial mistake but his attempt treat it as a misunderstanding has led to real problems for him.

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    You’re just repeating what the liberal newspapers and TV propaganda programs have said about Trump.
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  75. Rogue says:

    I have for a long time considered it bonkers that the modern Left seem so reckless to have mostly created this new Cold War, and even more weird with having no apparent concern of this new Cold War becoming hot!

    In the past, during the Cold War proper, both Left and Right were determined to keep it cold, but the Left especially were the most vocal about it. “Better Red than dead” was a Leftist chant, not a Rightist one.

    Those on the genuine Right today, have the same attitude today as they did in the past.

    The Left, by contrast, have become unhinged and divorced from all reality and common sense.

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  76. Zumbuddi says:
    @MacNucc11
    It is pretty ridiculous what they do now in the media. Any fake semblance of impartiality has been thrown to the wind. It is all about distortion, mocking, ridicule, etc.

    Question for Chuck “shomer”Schumer: Is it Sunday yet?

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  77. Art says:

    It is amazing – no one will say “J E W” – the Jews have manipulate our elections 10,000 times more than the Russians have ever hoped to do.

    With control over the entire media – the Jews have a lock on the American deep state government – Republican, Democrat, CIA, FBI, DOJ, DOD, congress, and president.

    It is so obvious – yet NO ONE will speak up – all the people at the top of society, live in absolute fear of Jew. Democracy is totally defeated. This cannot go on forever.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Jew power is at a peak headed down. The UK is about to flip on Israel.

    p.s. Mr. Trump – In some way say “JEW” or go down in history, as the last loser hog tied president of America’s dark period.

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  78. @prusmc
    Sounds like he was in what used to be (still may be) the Naval Security Group(NSG). They had several types of Communication Technicians (CT)(branchers) including Administrative, Operating, Technical , Radio and Language, who were called if I remember, I branch.
    There primary duties were intercepting and recording other countries official and back- channel communications. This is why there were a number on the USS Pueblo and the USS Liberty as well another ship the Oxford. Undoubtibly, much of what they did is now done by computers and robots. However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis. With Nance wide ranging experience in the survival activities and other non CT duties his skills would have deteriorated when he was away from his position. It would be interesting if any of his former shipmates remember him and anything about his accomplishments. I understand there are sites on the web that can bring up the good or bad about former military folks without looking into the official records. Remember John Kerry refused to allow his record to be unsealed, yet, a great deal was revealed about him by a number of men who served with or near him.

    However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis

    Exactly! It is about possessing the tools (they come with education and experience, both) allowing one to expand into serious analytical field. Especially in issues related to military and intelligence. Nance simply has none in his background. He might have been good at his job during service but judging by what he puts out–which is plain trash and lies–he is absolutely not qualified in any of serious analytical fields, least of them Russia.

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    If he was a linguist in Russian or other hard to learn language (no shortage of native speaker Spanish) his skills would be very perishable, so I doubt he was very good at his job or he never would be allowed all those interesting TAD assignments which embellish his resume. HOWEVER, no matter what their rating anyone in NSG required a Top Secret clearance and more, so he probably saw a lot of highly classified intercepts from 1981 until 2001. What did he do for the 10 years before he surfaced as an expert in 2011?
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  79. Patricus says:
    @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    Not sure what you mean by “left” in Germany. In the US the left would be inclined to sympathize with government ownership of most corporations and curtailed civil liberties. Maybe 25% of Americans are leftists. They never hold power for long.

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  80. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    A comment with little understanding of the American situation. As another writer mentioned, they key trump voters are in the Midwest, while rednecks are typically from the Deep South.

    At least rednecks are proud- how many muslim grooming gangs have there been in the USA? American whites are not afraid to shoot and America has favourable self defense laws.

    Sorry but England is fucked up for good.

    At least rednecks are proud- how many muslim grooming gangs have there been in the USA? American whites are not afraid to shoot and America has favourable self defense laws.

    Often Rednecks are conflated with plain (trailer) white trash. Why this sometimes is true, “redneckness” comes from old times when people hard working in fields had their necks burned by the sun. It is a euphemism for simpletons but namely working simpletons. Many rednecks even today are hard-working folks, unlike trailer trash which sits mostly on welfare, does drugs and procreates.

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  81. RobinG says:
    @tac
    OT:

    Bombshell documentary movie by Russian director: (Andrei Nekrasov) shines the light on Bill Browder, the central figure in the infamous Magnitsky Act, (that has been banned in many countries in Europe and deleted from YouTube as soon as it is published)
    is now available on bitchute here:

    THE MAGNITSKY ACT - BEHIND THE SCENES
    (about 2 hours long)

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

    Wow. I’ve read about this film, and been meaning to watch. Thanks.

    The funny thing is that right from the beginning of the film Browder looked like he was lying, only Nekrasov [the film maker] didn’t know it yet. This is the moment to circulate this, although the ADHD crowd will find it hard going.

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    This video has only been posted since today and is already generated +1K views. Spread it before it could be taken down.
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  82. prusmc says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    However, even in their finest day they did not do any tactical, operational or strategic analysis
     
    Exactly! It is about possessing the tools (they come with education and experience, both) allowing one to expand into serious analytical field. Especially in issues related to military and intelligence. Nance simply has none in his background. He might have been good at his job during service but judging by what he puts out--which is plain trash and lies--he is absolutely not qualified in any of serious analytical fields, least of them Russia.

    If he was a linguist in Russian or other hard to learn language (no shortage of native speaker Spanish) his skills would be very perishable, so I doubt he was very good at his job or he never would be allowed all those interesting TAD assignments which embellish his resume. HOWEVER, no matter what their rating anyone in NSG required a Top Secret clearance and more, so he probably saw a lot of highly classified intercepts from 1981 until 2001. What did he do for the 10 years before he surfaced as an expert in 2011?

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    If he was a linguist in Russian or other hard to learn language
     
    I doubt he ever was Russian linguist--looks like he always had a slant towards Arabic. Wiki is quite explicit about his business after 2001.

    In 2001, after retiring from the Navy, Nance founded Special Readiness Services International (SRSI), an intelligence support company. On the morning of 9/11, driving to Arlington he witnessed the crash of American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon.[8][1] He acted as a first responder at the helipad crash site where he helped organize the rescue and recovery of victims.[8][1] Subsequently, Nance served as an intelligence and security contractor in Iraq, Afghanistan, the UAE and North Africa.[17][18]

    Between 2005–2007 Nance was a visiting lecturer on counterterrorism in Sydney, Australia at Macquarie University's Centre on Policing, Intelligence and Counter-terrorism (PICT) and at Victoria University of Wellington in Wellington, New Zealand.[19]

    Nance now directs a think tank that he founded, the "Terror Asymmetrics Project on Strategy, Tactics and Radical Ideologies", which analyzes counterterrorism.[1][14] Nance is also a member of the advisory board of directors for the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C
     
    His "think-tank", namely this:

    http://thetacticsofterror.org/aboutus/

    Is nothing more than virtual news aggregator focusing primarily on (radical) Islam. In general, and that is my point from the get go--the guy has no background whatsoever in any Russia "studies" field.
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  83. @corstopitum
    Orange clown has cast doubt by showing the world that despite what the news media are telling us, Russia and the West really can get along together. Orange clown isn't as thick as people are making him out to be. In fact orange clown is very clever!

    He is a very clever actor, and you mistake the acting for reality.p

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  84. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Well now I've read the entire essay and it's something of a masterpiece. The only thing I'd add is that when Israel is caught spying on America, all the same people say, "oh that's nothing, everyone spies on everyone, grow up already."

    @ Anonymous If Trump would just ask, he would have 20 million Americans and 50 million Russians to help him.

    Before next election cycle, congress should pass a law that makes”any entity engaged in a political activity” into a nationally protected resource. Invasion into the privacy or theft of an asset or possession of such a protected resource of such a protected entity would be, by that same law, a criminal offense punishable by 60 years exile in Siberia, Russia. If a MSM member is convicted by such a law, then in addition to the Siberia time, such a convict would be required to tell the truth at least once each day.

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  85. tac says:

    While Russiaphobia is plastered on every TV screen and repeated ad nauseum, Bibi brags how he controls trump, yet all there is is crickets….

    Bibi brags how he controls Trump:

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  86. tac says:
    @RobinG
    Wow. I've read about this film, and been meaning to watch. Thanks.

    The funny thing is that right from the beginning of the film Browder looked like he was lying, only Nekrasov [the film maker] didn't know it yet. This is the moment to circulate this, although the ADHD crowd will find it hard going.

    This video has only been posted since today and is already generated +1K views. Spread it before it could be taken down.

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  87. @corstopitum
    Orange clown has cast doubt by showing the world that despite what the news media are telling us, Russia and the West really can get along together. Orange clown isn't as thick as people are making him out to be. In fact orange clown is very clever!

    Orange Clown has shown the world that he can’t be trusted; nothing that he says or does can be taken at face value, IMO.

    If Orange Clown wants to be taken seriously for a change, it’ll take more than disingenuous posturing; he’ll actually have to follow through and do something meaningful.

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  88. FB says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    The Neocons have taken over the "left" media and feature crazed idiots who applaud the anti-worker idea of mass immigration and warmongering. Most leftists are too spineless to oppose this onslaught. Corporate America has diverted the progressive movement for affordable health care and slashing the empire budget to promoting neocon goals or world domination and open borders. Even good guys like lefty Jimmy Dore refuse to push back. We have lots of former "Bernie Bros" pushing for more military spending to defend NATO, even though Europe itself spends twice more on its military than Russia, has twice its population, and 11 times its GDP!

    Newbusters assembled a montage of neocon faux-lefty heroes upset at world peace:

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2018/07/16/video-montage-cable-news-sees-apocalypse-trumpputin-summit

    Good comment…a very reasonable precis of the situation…

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  89. FB says:
    @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    The trouble is that most people here would not understand what ‘left’ actually means…

    The only way to save the US at this point in time would be to nationalize the banks and the MIC…even PCR proposes this…and one could hardly accuse him of being a ‘lefty’ [whatever that means anymore...]

    For those people who don’t understand what ‘left’ actually means…it means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system and acting on behalf of the people…nationalizing crime syndicates like the banks and the defense production sector would immediately give Americans a fairer share of the pie…money that now goes into the pockets of legalized hustlers and flim-flam men…

    The whole immigration thing is about cheap labor…who do you think actually benefits from immigration…?…some imaginary SJWs or the entire capitalist sector who get what is basically indentured servitude…?

    The American people are the most abused people on the planet…they have shit for jobs…they slave for the banks their entire lives…is this what it’s supposed to be like…?

    Even in China people have a better deal…and they were starving a generation or two ago…

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    " It means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system"

    Yeah and so then the government functionaries who "take control" simply replace the capitalistic honchos, and then they are the ones who abuse the system to their own advantage.

    You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers who had been running things, which is utter nonsense, as they, the gov officials, are even more corrupt and larcenous, and just what the hell do you think has occured over and over til today with the same results.

    Ever heard of the UdSSR, or East Germany or Cuba, or Venezuela?

    You are talking complete utopian (leftist) garbage.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army vet, and pro jazz artist

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  90. Art says:

    Good god – the US security state gets 1,000,000,000,000 a year.

    Any one who gets in the way of $1,000,000,000,000 is in for a fight – PERIOD!

    The Coming Coup to Overthrow President Trump: Sedition at the Highest Levels
    By Paul Craig Roberts

    July 19, 2018 “Information Clearing House” – The annual budget of the military/security complex is $1,000 billion. This vast sum is drawn from US taxpayers who have many unmet needs. To justify such an enormous budget a major enemy is required. The military/security complex and the media and politicians that the complex owns have designated Russia to be that enemy. The complex and its political and media agents will not permit Trump to normalize relations with Russia.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49882.htm

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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  91. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    tac, if your reading --

    The American contribution ---

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI

    I’m here to [at least partially] concede to you your condemnation of C-SPAN. Today they uncritically hosted Bill Browder, who is again hawking his book in the wake of his notoriety at Helsinki. Sickening to hear, unchallenged, Browder spreading his filthy fiction.

    His allegations have been thoroughly discredited, but that’s how they roll, repeating their lies ad infinitum, suppressing any conflicting evidence such as Andrei Nekrasov’s film. See it and share, before it’s removed from the web. H/T to tac.
    THE MAGNITSKY ACT – BEHIND THE SCENES

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

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    I spent 3 hours last night watching the film, and yes, h/t to tac and also to RobinG for nailing the spotlight on the film and Browder's criminality.

    It grabbed my attention when Browder said, fairly early on in the film, that he had advised Magnitsky to leave the country, and that 6 or 7 of the other 'lawyers' who worked on "exposing" the Russian government, had left the country. Come to think of it, the scene w/ Magnitsky telling his wife they should leave etc. were dramatized -- but Browder's comment that others had left kinda got lost in the haystack. It would be interesting to know who those Browder lawyers were who left, and where they are today -- those who have not suicided.


    Looks like you're making a difference: someone called C Span Washington Journal this morning and challenged
    C-Span to screen the film,

    The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

    It's a shame she did not mention that it's on bitchute.com
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  92. @KDM
    Except Britain destroyed Britain. Britain had a truly imperial run for hundreds of years but couldn’t keep it going into the 20th century with the anti-colonialist wave sweeping the globe. All those brown people (as you call them) decided they could very well govern themselves! (they’re still trying btw but it’s rough going all the same)

    Britain, the little island that could... Or can’t any longer actually. America had no hand in Britain’s downfall, that’s just times changing that did that. Without imperialism or some other strong backers (see America 20-21st century’s) Britain can not maintain its dominance or strength as a nation. It looks as though they’ve mostly given up on sovereignty as well (all but your own rednecks anyway).

    Sigh, I’m going to have to ping you for the “redneck” remark by the way.
    1). It’s doubtful that you’ve ever met a redneck (also those are not even the majority of deplorables as the rust belt populace are not rednecks, they basically live in the south).
    2). There is not a redneck alive that would want to live in your defeated little island overrun with non-assimilated middle-easterners who hate you, your country and everything you stand for. They will be fine in this sinking ship as they probably have a bunker stocked full of guns and ammo and years supply of food. They live for this $hite!

    So, I would tell you to go ahead and pack it in and move but I can’t think of another Western European country that will not be in the same boat as Britain, sooner rather than later.

    Mr. Derbyshire has put up a very interesting piece about how Kipling assisted the suicide by absurdly being an infantry officer in a war against an adequately armed and trained adversary of his so-myopic-as-to-be-technically-blind son.

    http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Reviews/Considerations/kipling.html

    The profession of military officer in [Joseph Rudyard] Kipling’s youth was not sensationally dangerous.

    When John Kipling’s very poor eyesight (6/36 in both eyes — he could not read the second line of an optician’s chart unaided) threatened to prevent his enlisting at the outbreak of war, his father pulled strings to secure him a commission in the Irish Guards. John was killed in his first action, on one account being shot in the head while storming a German machine-gun position, on another “crying” — probably a euphemism for “screaming” — in agony with half his face blown away.

    The “natives” massacred by the british for a century at that point for the most phenomenal plunder in human history had no machine-gun positions, playing their usual murderous games against an adversery who could actually shoot back was what ruined the Empire.

    The techniques of propaganda developed against Germany then are time proven and they work every time, then as they do now. Whenever you wonder what disinformation is served you right now, please do remember the Germans: they had to bear the brunt of it – and the very real consequences – for a century now.

    As Mr. Kipling sums it up in his one truthful verse, the one Mr. Derbyshire sadly but, given his agenda understandably leaves out:

    If any question why we died,
    Tell them, because our fathers lied

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  93. @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    “WE ARE GERMAN PEOPLES”

    The German men with any initiative and balls moved to the German enclaves or New York and the Upper Midwest and Texas hill country.

    German-Americans who return to visit their relatives are shocked at how lame and cucked the average German today is compared to their own tough brash Bavarian grandparents. It is as if the testosterone was sucked out Germany between the Bismark era and the Cold War when any German male with any initiative at all moved to the United States or to a lesser degree other Western countries.

    I have to say that NAZI war criminals did quite well in the United States after the war-most of them moved directly to Texas or Minnesota. Heck, there was one Nazi doctor in my suburb who was a GP and half of his patients were Jews. He ate his lunch at the local Jewish deli everyday. Do you think he feared Jews? Nope. He could care less about them and the war was over. Time to get on with life.

    Trump is the son of a German citizen by law (Conceived in Germany, born in the United States). Of course Trump’s father was a Bavarian-this is why Trump is brash, fearless and a barking junkyard dog, for better or worse. His own distant cousin in the German parliament who disowned him is a homo cuck who probably lets Muslim refugees pull his trousers down in public and sodomize him.

    To see the real Germany, one must visit the Texas hill country or Southern Wisconsin. These are the Germans not slouching about in shame over a 70 year old war who fight in other countries over football tickets.

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  94. @Den Lille Abe
    The thing is there is no "left" in the US. I am Left in Europe and there is nothing in the US that is identifiable, it is Blairite neocon shit. So US has a problem, the right is left and the left is right? Hihihih you are held for fools! And the same fools that destroyed Britain, will finish you off! You are in no way getting jobs back, just more of the same office jobs , the visa holders do! Well You killed your unions, you killed your cohesion as thinking people, to much foot ball, too much on cheering bombing defenseless brown people. Enjoy Karma! Maybe I can "adopt" a non redneck family, only literate white need apply!
    America will be gone in 10 years, maybe we will too, but we are German Peoples.

    DEN

    This is all true in fact. The only advantage is that the Muslims and refugees that choose Germany over some half-Arab Southern European poor country like Malta or Albania also are not attracted to life with no safety net in the United States.

    Or at least not as many of them.

    And while “Left”might work in your country all it will do in the US is be squandered on unemployable blacks and Hispanics and create corrupt police officers.

    Australia’s minimum wage hike is a good idea. However, you know poor white Republicans and their brainwashing by the 1% ruling elite who lead them to believe a livable wage would be Communist and destroy the economy because business owners would close down if they had to pay a decent wage.

    Not that such a thing can even be leverage on the corporations owning the US lock, stock and barrel.

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  95. JR says:

    Actually this looks like an unholy alliance between indeed Dems and neocons affiliated with the MIC both supported by economic interests.

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  96. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    Jews in media made a big stink about the Red Scare because a close look at the phenom would have revealed how much Jews were involved for ideological and/or tribal reasons. The offense about Red Scare and ‘hysteria’ was their best defense. And it was easy because unphotogenic McCarthy overplayed his hand and even went after the military. Bad move.
     
    Can you elaborate on this?

    It’s common knowledge.

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  97. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    That may be, but other sources acknowledge that the current president has made the comment and as such has done himself a "blow" for his opponents.


    The number of mistakes in a two day period, has forced him into a position that would also force him to be adversarial with the Russians.


    There is no escaping that fact. Furthermore, his backtracking appears hapless and suggests he vulnerable to the point of guilt.


    Now, I don't buy the report as it lacks evidence. i think the intel community is in deep trouble based on their own performance. And the president's back down has enabled them to position the admin to support regime change and other interventionists schemes if for no other reason, to combat russia.


    maybe this admission is nothing but a fly in the ointment, but if i opposed this president, this week would be steak, baked potato, corn on the cob with apple pie vanilla ala mode for desert. Enjoyable fattening meal.

    1. standing next to the accused he countered the narrative.

    2. next day says he mispoke
    3. followed by he trusts the intel community
    4. blames Pres Putin for the election operation
    5. meaning:

    he thinks President Putin lied
    russia did in fact engage in an attempt overthrow or disrupt - democracy in the us
    thereby granting out that the russians are in fact an active enemy of the and
    the us demands the immediate extradition of all involved for trial
    the US must challenge Russian behavior as a threat to US goals and global tranquility


    the fact that george soros owns the paper -- is utterly inconsequential.

    He could have ameliorated his initial mistake but his attempt treat it as a misunderstanding has led to real problems for him.

    You’re just repeating what the liberal newspapers and TV propaganda programs have said about Trump.

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    My comments have nothing to do with being liberal.

    Either the president accepts the report as truth or he does not. And accepts as truth is not meant in total, but the substantive portions that the GRU attempted or did disrupt or over turn the electoral process. And those actions were ordered by their head of state.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-faces-wide-rebuke-for-siding-with-putin-over-us-intelligence/4486168.html

    The minute he backtracked. he undermined any real defense of the russians and when he accepted the report as accurate, game over for any defense of russia. Now he may very well have backtracked and eventually admitted the report was accurate or political reasons. problem for him is there is no going back. If he has done any of the above, Russia must be treated as a hostile state engaged in what would otherwise be considered not just spying, buy "terrorist activity" and such activity, not by a rogue russian element, but by the president of russia.

    In accordance with his duty as head of the US president Trump must then act accordingly defend the us against russia.

    Furthermore, it means that President Putin lied to him and has undermined any trut he may have fostered before these revelations ---

    __________________________________________


    Now in very short order, the implications of accepting the veracity of the case against russia will be realized and his opponents will have to put up or shut-up.

    But most importantly, the president of the US has just hemmed in his foreign policy regarding russia. If you read the report the charges are pretty damning and there is no going forward without addressing it.

    I for my part, don't think there's any evidence that russia meddled. There is evidence that Russia did not like the previous admin. and in-particular Sec Clinton who was part of the political class that wanted to militarily confront russia. Was it intended to influence us public opinion, sure, but that is not meddling, in the sense of an active campaign. This problem is not created by me.
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  98. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon9988
    A particularly eerie week here in America given the Russian observance of the 100th anniversary of the brutal murder of the entire Romanov family by Jews. The unsettling parallels are there every minute: a Jewish controlled media rabidly calling for the overthrow of the US government, Jews and their minions publicly calling for violence against the president and his family, swift and merciless retribution for anyone who dares to disagree with their agenda.

    As far as I know, calls to overthrow the US government are against the law (18 U.S. Code § 2385). Why aren't these people being arrested?

    There is no question the US is living under zionist occupation, and it's becoming clearer every day where this is all going to lead.

    If they can they will do to American goyim what they did to the Soviet peoples and are doing to the Palestinians now.

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  99. @redmudhooch
    Have they blamed Russia for 9/11 and JFK assassination yet? Its coming. Maybe even figure out a way to blame them for USS Liberty attack too.

    By the way, those evil Russians warned us 9/11 attack was being planned before the attack happened:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly stated that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US in the summer of 2001 that suicide pilots were training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also stated, “We had clearly warned them” on several occasions, but they “did not pay the necessary attention.” [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01] The Russian newspaper Izvestia claimed that Russian intelligence agents knew the participants in the attacks, and: “More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation for these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.” [Izvestia, 9/12/02]

    Evil Russians also told us going into Iraq was a terrible idea:

    https://sputniknews.com/politics/201609091045123892-iraq-us-war-terrorism/

    Russia warned the United States about the spread of terrorism which would be triggered by the invasion of Iraq prior to the start of the US-led operation to topple former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, Russia’s former Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov told Sputnik.


    Maybe our "government" should start listening to Russia? Maybe reconsider who is our enemy and who is our ally?
    Iran next
    In recording, Netanyahu boasts Israel convinced Trump to quit Iran nuclear deal

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-recording-netanyahu-boasts-israel-convinced-trump-to-quit-iran-nuclear-deal/

    In a video clip aired Tuesday by Israeli television, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that Israel was responsible for US President Donald Trump’s decision to quit the Iran nuclear deal.

    In the video, which the Kan public broadcaster said was filmed two weeks ago, Netanyahu can be seen speaking to activists and senior members from his Likud party.

    “We convinced the US president [to exit the deal] and I had to stand up against the whole world and come out against this agreement,” Netanyahu says in the video. “And we didn’t give up.”


    They're already planning a new false flag attack to be blamed on Iran, count on it. They will not stop until they get their war with Iran.

    There were no Arab hijackers, there were no 9/11 planes to warn about, there were no 9/11 planes to intercept. And the City, State, and Federal government knew what was planned for that day and played their role and were prepared. And there were no three thousand victims killed (although there were a few accidents). Some millions of people’s health was affected by the toxic residues of an illegal demolition, and millions were killed in fake wars and nations were destroyed. There was an insurance scam, a stock market scam and political hoax/psyop.
    Yes. There are real traitors everywhere and there is a rogue state. And the “Free Press” is a traitor to the people selling them out for money. Along with your “elected public servants.”

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    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn't he protest his innocence?
    , @MacNucc11
    I agree there were no Arab hi-jackers but could be we tricked the Russians into believing that there were so they could "warn" us about them. Makes it look better that it was just a merry mix up and incompetence and boy aren't those terrrists so darn slick? This is all a false narrative that has been pushed to cover for the fact that it was a planned event. It also helps to push the agenda of needing more surveillance on the American People. "We couldn't get the right information because of rights, and laws, and stuff."
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  100. @FB
    The trouble is that most people here would not understand what 'left' actually means...

    The only way to save the US at this point in time would be to nationalize the banks and the MIC...even PCR proposes this...and one could hardly accuse him of being a 'lefty' [whatever that means anymore...]

    For those people who don't understand what 'left' actually means...it means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system and acting on behalf of the people...nationalizing crime syndicates like the banks and the defense production sector would immediately give Americans a fairer share of the pie...money that now goes into the pockets of legalized hustlers and flim-flam men...

    The whole immigration thing is about cheap labor...who do you think actually benefits from immigration...?...some imaginary SJWs or the entire capitalist sector who get what is basically indentured servitude...?

    The American people are the most abused people on the planet...they have shit for jobs...they slave for the banks their entire lives...is this what it's supposed to be like...?

    Even in China people have a better deal...and they were starving a generation or two ago...

    ” It means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system”

    Yeah and so then the government functionaries who “take control” simply replace the capitalistic honchos, and then they are the ones who abuse the system to their own advantage.

    You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers who had been running things, which is utter nonsense, as they, the gov officials, are even more corrupt and larcenous, and just what the hell do you think has occured over and over til today with the same results.

    Ever heard of the UdSSR, or East Germany or Cuba, or Venezuela?

    You are talking complete utopian (leftist) garbage.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army vet, and pro jazz artist

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    '...You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers...'
     
    They can't be any more dishonest than the scum bilking the people now...that's a physical impossibility...

    The other difference is that an elected government can be held accountable to the people, unlike privateers who are completely unaccountable, even in the courts wehn they commit aggregious abuses and lawlessness...

    Another big factor is that corporate control of the election process would greatly diminish if major private sector crime syndicates were privatized...right now we have the senator from Citibank...the representative from Lockheed...all the way down the line...these scumbags represent zero real people...while toiling 24/7 to take the skin off our backs...[they already have the shirt]

    In any case...I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity...unlike my own experience which is extensive...as an exchange student in the 1980s...and later while working in the aerospace industry and many working trips to Russia...
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  101. @Anon
    You’re just repeating what the liberal newspapers and TV propaganda programs have said about Trump.

    My comments have nothing to do with being liberal.

    Either the president accepts the report as truth or he does not. And accepts as truth is not meant in total, but the substantive portions that the GRU attempted or did disrupt or over turn the electoral process. And those actions were ordered by their head of state.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-faces-wide-rebuke-for-siding-with-putin-over-us-intelligence/4486168.html

    The minute he backtracked. he undermined any real defense of the russians and when he accepted the report as accurate, game over for any defense of russia. Now he may very well have backtracked and eventually admitted the report was accurate or political reasons. problem for him is there is no going back. If he has done any of the above, Russia must be treated as a hostile state engaged in what would otherwise be considered not just spying, buy “terrorist activity” and such activity, not by a rogue russian element, but by the president of russia.

    In accordance with his duty as head of the US president Trump must then act accordingly defend the us against russia.

    Furthermore, it means that President Putin lied to him and has undermined any trut he may have fostered before these revelations —

    __________________________________________

    Now in very short order, the implications of accepting the veracity of the case against russia will be realized and his opponents will have to put up or shut-up.

    But most importantly, the president of the US has just hemmed in his foreign policy regarding russia. If you read the report the charges are pretty damning and there is no going forward without addressing it.

    I for my part, don’t think there’s any evidence that russia meddled. There is evidence that Russia did not like the previous admin. and in-particular Sec Clinton who was part of the political class that wanted to militarily confront russia. Was it intended to influence us public opinion, sure, but that is not meddling, in the sense of an active campaign. This problem is not created by me.

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  102. @ploni almoni
    There were no Arab hijackers, there were no 9/11 planes to warn about, there were no 9/11 planes to intercept. And the City, State, and Federal government knew what was planned for that day and played their role and were prepared. And there were no three thousand victims killed (although there were a few accidents). Some millions of people's health was affected by the toxic residues of an illegal demolition, and millions were killed in fake wars and nations were destroyed. There was an insurance scam, a stock market scam and political hoax/psyop.
    Yes. There are real traitors everywhere and there is a rogue state. And the "Free Press" is a traitor to the people selling them out for money. Along with your "elected public servants."

    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn’t he protest his innocence?

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    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn’t he protest his innocence?

     

    Bin Laden died and was resurrected multiple times between 2001 and 2011. Probably made him a little dizzy -- he didn't really mean to mislead anyone, he just misspoke.
    , @Harold Smith
    "So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists?"

    Osama bin Laden did not "accept the blame [for 9/11]."

    http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/index.html


    "Why didn’t he protest his innocence?"

    He said he didn't do it, and no evidence has ever been presented by the U.S. "government" that would suggest otherwise.

    A question you should be asking is this: If 9/11 was a "legitimate" act of terrorism, where is the "manifesto" or "communique" or some kind of claim of responsibility by the actual perpetrators?

    After all, the whole point of "terrorism" is to make a point; to get a message across. Why would "terrorists" plan and carry out the most brazen, most devastating terrorist attack in history only to let their "enemy" control the narrative?

    It makes no sense that people would be willing to die to do the 9/11 attack and then let Bush et al. tell the world that they did it because "they hate our freedom" or some such puerile, self-serving statist drivel. That would be like robbing a bank, and then leaving the money by the door on the way out.

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  103. @RobinG
    I'm here to [at least partially] concede to you your condemnation of C-SPAN. Today they uncritically hosted Bill Browder, who is again hawking his book in the wake of his notoriety at Helsinki. Sickening to hear, unchallenged, Browder spreading his filthy fiction.

    His allegations have been thoroughly discredited, but that's how they roll, repeating their lies ad infinitum, suppressing any conflicting evidence such as Andrei Nekrasov's film. See it and share, before it's removed from the web. H/T to tac.
    THE MAGNITSKY ACT – BEHIND THE SCENES
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

    I spent 3 hours last night watching the film, and yes, h/t to tac and also to RobinG for nailing the spotlight on the film and Browder’s criminality.

    It grabbed my attention when Browder said, fairly early on in the film, that he had advised Magnitsky to leave the country, and that 6 or 7 of the other ‘lawyers’ who worked on “exposing” the Russian government, had left the country. Come to think of it, the scene w/ Magnitsky telling his wife they should leave etc. were dramatized — but Browder’s comment that others had left kinda got lost in the haystack. It would be interesting to know who those Browder lawyers were who left, and where they are today — those who have not suicided.

    Looks like you’re making a difference: someone called C Span Washington Journal this morning and challenged
    C-Span to screen the film,

    The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes


    It’s a shame she did not mention that it’s on bitchute.com

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    Right. Looks like Browder referred to any of his accomplices as lawyers. As per Geokat's post (under PCR article) this film may have a short life on the web. However others, notably Lee Stranahan, are keeping the topic central. I'd love to claim I influenced the C-SPAN caller, but last night Lee enjoined his 80K twitter followers to call in to talk shows, so chances are ......

    BTW, Lee was in Helsinki and London, and is now in Budapest to work on his film about Soros.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NsRSiXUV9Q&feature=youtu.be
    THIS is the Man Putin Said Gave Hillary Money
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  104. @prusmc
    If he was a linguist in Russian or other hard to learn language (no shortage of native speaker Spanish) his skills would be very perishable, so I doubt he was very good at his job or he never would be allowed all those interesting TAD assignments which embellish his resume. HOWEVER, no matter what their rating anyone in NSG required a Top Secret clearance and more, so he probably saw a lot of highly classified intercepts from 1981 until 2001. What did he do for the 10 years before he surfaced as an expert in 2011?

    If he was a linguist in Russian or other hard to learn language

    I doubt he ever was Russian linguist–looks like he always had a slant towards Arabic. Wiki is quite explicit about his business after 2001.

    In 2001, after retiring from the Navy, Nance founded Special Readiness Services International (SRSI), an intelligence support company. On the morning of 9/11, driving to Arlington he witnessed the crash of American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon.[8][1] He acted as a first responder at the helipad crash site where he helped organize the rescue and recovery of victims.[8][1] Subsequently, Nance served as an intelligence and security contractor in Iraq, Afghanistan, the UAE and North Africa.[17][18]

    Between 2005–2007 Nance was a visiting lecturer on counterterrorism in Sydney, Australia at Macquarie University’s Centre on Policing, Intelligence and Counter-terrorism (PICT) and at Victoria University of Wellington in Wellington, New Zealand.[19]

    Nance now directs a think tank that he founded, the “Terror Asymmetrics Project on Strategy, Tactics and Radical Ideologies”, which analyzes counterterrorism.[1][14] Nance is also a member of the advisory board of directors for the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C

    His “think-tank”, namely this:

    http://thetacticsofterror.org/aboutus/

    Is nothing more than virtual news aggregator focusing primarily on (radical) Islam. In general, and that is my point from the get go–the guy has no background whatsoever in any Russia “studies” field.

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  105. Mike P says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn't he protest his innocence?

    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn’t he protest his innocence?

    Bin Laden died and was resurrected multiple times between 2001 and 2011. Probably made him a little dizzy — he didn’t really mean to mislead anyone, he just misspoke.

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  106. Mulegino1 says:
    @Asknot
    That was very clever of Trump's speechwriters, sticking a JFK-style antimetabole in there, because JFK was in exactly the same position as Trump is now: going over CIA's head to make peace with a Russian head of state. CIA would like to whack Trump too, but maybe they're bashful about it now that everybody's onto them. So for now they're relying on captive media propaganda for a vilification campaign.

    I agree 100 percent. There is a simple reason that they have not already done so: the internet. The people- at least the people with an IQ above room temperature- are wise to them.

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  107. MacNucc11 says:
    @ploni almoni
    There were no Arab hijackers, there were no 9/11 planes to warn about, there were no 9/11 planes to intercept. And the City, State, and Federal government knew what was planned for that day and played their role and were prepared. And there were no three thousand victims killed (although there were a few accidents). Some millions of people's health was affected by the toxic residues of an illegal demolition, and millions were killed in fake wars and nations were destroyed. There was an insurance scam, a stock market scam and political hoax/psyop.
    Yes. There are real traitors everywhere and there is a rogue state. And the "Free Press" is a traitor to the people selling them out for money. Along with your "elected public servants."

    I agree there were no Arab hi-jackers but could be we tricked the Russians into believing that there were so they could “warn” us about them. Makes it look better that it was just a merry mix up and incompetence and boy aren’t those terrrists so darn slick? This is all a false narrative that has been pushed to cover for the fact that it was a planned event. It also helps to push the agenda of needing more surveillance on the American People. “We couldn’t get the right information because of rights, and laws, and stuff.”

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  108. @tac
    OT:

    Bombshell documentary movie by Russian director: (Andrei Nekrasov) shines the light on Bill Browder, the central figure in the infamous Magnitsky Act, (that has been banned in many countries in Europe and deleted from YouTube as soon as it is published)
    is now available on bitchute here:

    THE MAGNITSKY ACT - BEHIND THE SCENES
    (about 2 hours long)

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

    The very fact that this movie was deleted almost everywhere suggests that it must be true. Lies are never so consistently deleted from all Western resources. This is natural: nobody is so scared of lies, as they can be debunked, whereas the truth can only be deleted.

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    Agreed. There was considerable efforts to squash this release and is further evidenced as such:

    EXCLUSIVE: Advance Review of Devastating Film About Bill Browder Which He Tried to Suppress”
     
    https://russia-insider.com/en/exclusive-advance-review-devastating-film-about-bill-browder-which-he-tried-suppress/ri15044

    Controversial film on Sergei Magnitsky’s death set for US screening

    А film about Sergei Magnitsky, the Russian lawyer who died in prison after allegedly being tortured, is set to be shown in Washington after criticism and legal threats forced European TV channels to pull their broadcasts.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/10/controversial-film-russia-lawyers-sergei-magnitsky-death-screening

    Bill Browder: why I fear for my life

    “Greatest capitalist in the world” turned human rights campaigner, Bill Browder is fighting for justice for a Russian friend whose murder he blames on the Kremlin
     
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11453125/Bill-Browder-why-I-fear-for-my-life.html
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  109. FB says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " It means the government taking control of runaway abuses of the system"

    Yeah and so then the government functionaries who "take control" simply replace the capitalistic honchos, and then they are the ones who abuse the system to their own advantage.

    You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers who had been running things, which is utter nonsense, as they, the gov officials, are even more corrupt and larcenous, and just what the hell do you think has occured over and over til today with the same results.

    Ever heard of the UdSSR, or East Germany or Cuba, or Venezuela?

    You are talking complete utopian (leftist) garbage.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army vet, and pro jazz artist

    ‘…You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers…’

    They can’t be any more dishonest than the scum bilking the people now…that’s a physical impossibility…

    The other difference is that an elected government can be held accountable to the people, unlike privateers who are completely unaccountable, even in the courts wehn they commit aggregious abuses and lawlessness…

    Another big factor is that corporate control of the election process would greatly diminish if major private sector crime syndicates were privatized…right now we have the senator from Citibank…the representative from Lockheed…all the way down the line…these scumbags represent zero real people…while toiling 24/7 to take the skin off our backs…[they already have the shirt]

    In any case…I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity…unlike my own experience which is extensive…as an exchange student in the 1980s…and later while working in the aerospace industry and many working trips to Russia…

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    " I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity"

    And I have noted before that you are a clueless, low IQ, leftist fool and that you do not comprehend that in communist countries only the most loyal party soldiers were qualified to house and host exchange students.

    The party did not ever allow non-party types to room and board foreign visitors.

    Look folks such as yourself are hopeless cases and conversation with you is an exercize in futility and simply exausting.

    AJM
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  110. @Jeff Stryker
    So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists? Why didn't he protest his innocence?

    “So why did an America-hating Osama Bin Laden accept the blame? Did the Jews brainwash him into accepting blame for the sake of Zionists?”

    Osama bin Laden did not “accept the blame [for 9/11].”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/index.html

    “Why didn’t he protest his innocence?”

    He said he didn’t do it, and no evidence has ever been presented by the U.S. “government” that would suggest otherwise.

    A question you should be asking is this: If 9/11 was a “legitimate” act of terrorism, where is the “manifesto” or “communique” or some kind of claim of responsibility by the actual perpetrators?

    After all, the whole point of “terrorism” is to make a point; to get a message across. Why would “terrorists” plan and carry out the most brazen, most devastating terrorist attack in history only to let their “enemy” control the narrative?

    It makes no sense that people would be willing to die to do the 9/11 attack and then let Bush et al. tell the world that they did it because “they hate our freedom” or some such puerile, self-serving statist drivel. That would be like robbing a bank, and then leaving the money by the door on the way out.

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  111. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Andrei Martyanov is working for US Navy. He is USG agent. Look at his website:

    [You Can Read Me Now In US Naval Institute Blog.

    Russian Navy, Mission Found?

    You may read my new piece on some doctrine-technology issues in today's USNI Blog post. Link is below. 

    Aircraft Carriers’ Drama ]

    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2017/06/you-can-read-me-now-in-us-naval.html#disqus_thread

    Please look at the enemies’ blog (US Navy blog) that have killed millions of people. He is working for these mass murderers. Navy works only with people who can be used and is beneficial for their mass killing project.

    https://www.usni.org/

    Do dummies care?

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    You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy. Here is from the link you provided which states what they are about;

    https://www.usni.org/about

    Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.

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  112. tac says:
    @AnonFromTN
    The very fact that this movie was deleted almost everywhere suggests that it must be true. Lies are never so consistently deleted from all Western resources. This is natural: nobody is so scared of lies, as they can be debunked, whereas the truth can only be deleted.

    Agreed. There was considerable efforts to squash this release and is further evidenced as such:

    EXCLUSIVE: Advance Review of Devastating Film About Bill Browder Which He Tried to Suppress”

    https://russia-insider.com/en/exclusive-advance-review-devastating-film-about-bill-browder-which-he-tried-suppress/ri15044

    Controversial film on Sergei Magnitsky’s death set for US screening

    А film about Sergei Magnitsky, the Russian lawyer who died in prison after allegedly being tortured, is set to be shown in Washington after criticism and legal threats forced European TV channels to pull their broadcasts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/10/controversial-film-russia-lawyers-sergei-magnitsky-death-screening

    Bill Browder: why I fear for my life

    “Greatest capitalist in the world” turned human rights campaigner, Bill Browder is fighting for justice for a Russian friend whose murder he blames on the Kremlin

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11453125/Bill-Browder-why-I-fear-for-my-life.html

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  113. @FB

    '...You are suggesting that government officials would somehow be more honest and ethical than the privateers...'
     
    They can't be any more dishonest than the scum bilking the people now...that's a physical impossibility...

    The other difference is that an elected government can be held accountable to the people, unlike privateers who are completely unaccountable, even in the courts wehn they commit aggregious abuses and lawlessness...

    Another big factor is that corporate control of the election process would greatly diminish if major private sector crime syndicates were privatized...right now we have the senator from Citibank...the representative from Lockheed...all the way down the line...these scumbags represent zero real people...while toiling 24/7 to take the skin off our backs...[they already have the shirt]

    In any case...I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity...unlike my own experience which is extensive...as an exchange student in the 1980s...and later while working in the aerospace industry and many working trips to Russia...

    ” I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity”

    And I have noted before that you are a clueless, low IQ, leftist fool and that you do not comprehend that in communist countries only the most loyal party soldiers were qualified to house and host exchange students.

    The party did not ever allow non-party types to room and board foreign visitors.

    Look folks such as yourself are hopeless cases and conversation with you is an exercize in futility and simply exausting.

    AJM

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    Yeah sure labelmeister...you're the one getting bent out of shape because you are an indoctrinated koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about 'leftists'...or reality for that matter...LOL...

    As for intelligence...you display very little...
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  114. MacNucc11 says:
    @anonymous
    Andrei Martyanov is working for US Navy. He is USG agent. Look at his website:


    [You Can Read Me Now In US Naval Institute Blog.

    Russian Navy, Mission Found?

    You may read my new piece on some doctrine-technology issues in today's USNI Blog post. Link is below. 

    Aircraft Carriers’ Drama ]



    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2017/06/you-can-read-me-now-in-us-naval.html#disqus_thread

    Please look at the enemies’ blog (US Navy blog) that have killed millions of people. He is working for these mass murderers. Navy works only with people who can be used and is beneficial for their mass killing project.

    https://www.usni.org/

    Do dummies care?

    You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy. Here is from the link you provided which states what they are about;

    https://www.usni.org/about

    Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.

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    Thanks for your comment.

    Please look at the names and photos of the board directors of this (You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy) USG front.

    https://www.usni.org/board-directors

    All the (ret.) USG military mass murderers are working with USNI.org. It is USG front.
    One of them is the criminal Gen John R. Allen, who gave a very scary speech on behalf of the mass murder Hillary Clinton at the time of ‘elections’ to support her presidency and her criminal position against Iran in support of the criminal zionists.

    You just look at their pictures to tell us if USNI is really 'independent'?

    Would you work for the criminal Kissinger, since at OLD AGE they don't have any use for him and he can make more money by selling his 'expertise' to thieves and terrorists. This 'useful' website, basically works with USG former mass murderers and call itself 'independent'. Don't be fooled.

    US Naval Institute is filled with a lot of former Zionist jews military agents, like other organizations. This is the same as USG Naval except it is filled with more criminals who have reached retirement age making more money. They have not abandoned their criminal views, haven't they?

    [Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.] SURE!!!!!!


    https://cdn08.usni.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/staff_image/P6%20-%20Gen%20Allen.jpg
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  115. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    I spent 3 hours last night watching the film, and yes, h/t to tac and also to RobinG for nailing the spotlight on the film and Browder's criminality.

    It grabbed my attention when Browder said, fairly early on in the film, that he had advised Magnitsky to leave the country, and that 6 or 7 of the other 'lawyers' who worked on "exposing" the Russian government, had left the country. Come to think of it, the scene w/ Magnitsky telling his wife they should leave etc. were dramatized -- but Browder's comment that others had left kinda got lost in the haystack. It would be interesting to know who those Browder lawyers were who left, and where they are today -- those who have not suicided.


    Looks like you're making a difference: someone called C Span Washington Journal this morning and challenged
    C-Span to screen the film,

    The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lQ3qEwX66pIL/

    It's a shame she did not mention that it's on bitchute.com

    Right. Looks like Browder referred to any of his accomplices as lawyers. As per Geokat’s post (under PCR article) this film may have a short life on the web. However others, notably Lee Stranahan, are keeping the topic central. I’d love to claim I influenced the C-SPAN caller, but last night Lee enjoined his 80K twitter followers to call in to talk shows, so chances are ……

    BTW, Lee was in Helsinki and London, and is now in Budapest to work on his film about Soros.

    THIS is the Man Putin Said Gave Hillary Money

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  116. FB says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " I have noted before that your comments about life in communist countries lack authenticity"

    And I have noted before that you are a clueless, low IQ, leftist fool and that you do not comprehend that in communist countries only the most loyal party soldiers were qualified to house and host exchange students.

    The party did not ever allow non-party types to room and board foreign visitors.

    Look folks such as yourself are hopeless cases and conversation with you is an exercize in futility and simply exausting.

    AJM

    Yeah sure labelmeister…you’re the one getting bent out of shape because you are an indoctrinated koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about ‘leftists’…or reality for that matter…LOL…

    As for intelligence…you display very little…

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    " Koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about leftists... or reality for tha tmatter"

    Yeah sure myself, someone who for five decades has traveled all of Europe,including the east-block before the fall of the wall, lived in Italy, Germany, and the UK, speaks three languages, German, Italian, and English, is an artist in the field of Jazz music, has studied, in conservatory, classical flute performance, has been married to three "upper-class" women , a "von", an MD, and my current wife, a retired teacher.
    Has qualified for the "Mensa" society, with a tested IQ of over 150 points, sired a son who graduated from a top German university, and on and on : These are the marks of someone who does not know the first thing about "reality"

    You are hopelessly stupid and out of your mind.

    AJM

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  117. Che Guava says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I think I am seeing your point, was also shocked to see Private Manning described as an ‘intelligence officer’, from the start.
     
    Wiki gives this info on this Nance Russia "expert" fellow.

    Early life and education

    Nance was born in Philadelphia, and attended the city's West Catholic Boys High School. He reportedly studied Spanish, French, and Latin languages, and took advantage of free classes in Russian and Chinese offered at South Philadelphia High School on Saturdays.[1] In 2011,[4] he received a bachelor of arts degree[5] from New York's Excelsior College.[6] Nance began working in the civilian intelligence arena through research into the history of the Soviet Union and its spying agency the KGB.[7] He subsequently analyzed Middle East terrorism and sovereign nations with ties to the Russian Federation.[7]
    Military career

    Nance served in the U.S. Navy for 20 years, from 1981 to 2001, receiving several military decorations.[8][1] As a U.S. Navy specialist in Naval Cryptology, Nance was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations.[9][10][11] He garnered expertise within the fields of intelligence and counterterrorism.[12][13][14] He was also an instructor in wartime and peacetime Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), training Navy and Marine Corps pilots and aircrew how to survive as a prisoner of war.[15][16] There Nance helped to initiate the Advanced Terrorism, Abduction and Hostage Survival course of instruction.[1]

    Nance took part in combat operations that occurred after the 1983 Beirut barracks bombings, was peripherally involved with the 1986 United States bombing of Libya, served on USS Wainwright during Operation Praying Mantis and was aboard during the sinking of the Iranian missile boat Joshan, served on USS Tripoli during the Gulf War, and assisted during a Banja Luka, Bosnia air strike.[8]
     
    So, the guy serves as non-degreed "specialist" (in reality lower level technician) in the field where the basic requirement for even the starting officer position is:

    A four-year degree from a regionally accredited institution is required to work as a Cryptologic Warfare Officer. The degree must be in a technical field, preferably in one of the following: information systems, electrical engineering, computer engineering, information operations, computer science, systems engineering, general engineering.

    All candidates must also be: U.S. citizens, willing to serve worldwide, eligible for a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) security clearance, and qualified for sea duty.
     
    https://www.navy.com/careers/cryptologic-warfare

    The guy, long, 10 years, AFTER he exited Navy, gets his degree in some on-line college which offers NOT a single high level intelligence or military officer course, with some exception of certification courses in cyber-security, and he goes on to comment on some huge national security issues and the country of which he has no clue. I omit here his anti-terrorism and other "relevant" training--those "trainers" are a dime a dozen on a sunny day. So, here we have the guy who never got any serious education and training in fundamental precise sciences (Physics and High Level Math), military tactics, operational art, doctrine, geopolitics (from economic to military geography), to military history, to weapon systems, operational research--all mandatory and minimal requirements, plus service experience in tactical and operational command, to have at least some background for commenting on such issues. Obviously, real intelligence field was and is simply beyond service, academic, military etc. reach of Mr. Nance. I know number of American senior officers, and good professionals at that, with Ph.Ds and service record to boot which would make Nance look like a teenage amateur, yet even those bright and highly qualified people make their mistakes in relation to Russia. He is NO intelligence officer, never was and is certainly not Russia "expert". Not even close--just a typical BSer used to propagate all kinds of DNC and neocon garbage.

    Thank you, Andrei, never hearing of this one before.

    Only ‘Nance’I was noticing before was the actor favoured by David Lynch, and sad story of his death.

    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.

    I do not know what to think, even now, except that it was the last of many good SF films from the USSR, and great. Also seems to have supported coup d’etat there.

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    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.
     
    One of Danelia's truly great films. Obviously it became one of the greatest quote generators of all time in USSR (after 17 Instances of Spring) and a distinct anti-utopia which today more and more looks like as West's future (same as Orwell's 1984). It is also very quirky. One of the themes of this movie is degeneration of arts--really prophetic.

    Also seems to have supported coup d’etat there.
     
    Mmm, difficult to say, honestly on this account. As with Orwell--it all seemed so anti-"Soviet" but here we are, look at the modern West, it increasingly becomes 1984.
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  118. @FB
    Yeah sure labelmeister...you're the one getting bent out of shape because you are an indoctrinated koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about 'leftists'...or reality for that matter...LOL...

    As for intelligence...you display very little...

    ” Koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about leftists… or reality for tha tmatter”

    Yeah sure myself, someone who for five decades has traveled all of Europe,including the east-block before the fall of the wall, lived in Italy, Germany, and the UK, speaks three languages, German, Italian, and English, is an artist in the field of Jazz music, has studied, in conservatory, classical flute performance, has been married to three “upper-class” women , a “von”, an MD, and my current wife, a retired teacher.
    Has qualified for the “Mensa” society, with a tested IQ of over 150 points, sired a son who graduated from a top German university, and on and on : These are the marks of someone who does not know the first thing about “reality”

    You are hopelessly stupid and out of your mind.

    AJM

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    wow...a legend in his own mind...don't tell me, you also helped Jack off a horse...
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  119. @Che Guava
    Thank you, Andrei, never hearing of this one before.

    Only 'Nance'I was noticing before was the actor favoured by David Lynch, and sad story of his death.

    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.

    I do not know what to think, even now, except that it was the last of many good SF films from the USSR, and great. Also seems to have supported coup d'etat there.

    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.

    One of Danelia’s truly great films. Obviously it became one of the greatest quote generators of all time in USSR (after 17 Instances of Spring) and a distinct anti-utopia which today more and more looks like as West’s future (same as Orwell’s 1984). It is also very quirky. One of the themes of this movie is degeneration of arts–really prophetic.

    Also seems to have supported coup d’etat there.

    Mmm, difficult to say, honestly on this account. As with Orwell–it all seemed so anti-”Soviet” but here we are, look at the modern West, it increasingly becomes 1984.

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    Thank you,

    It is, strangely enough, only popular in Japan and Russia.

    Although the first (of three ) times I was seeing it at a cinema, they were passing out generous samples nf Georgian wine, after the screening.

    So, suppose that was the Georgian Embassy.the composer of most of the music was Georgian. I bought his CD, very good music and beyond the themes in the film.

    Also buying the DVD with Japanese side-titles, a film I always love,

    That it was predictive in many ways, to what extent was it part of a plot?
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  120. FB says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " Koolaid drinker who knows not the first thing about leftists... or reality for tha tmatter"

    Yeah sure myself, someone who for five decades has traveled all of Europe,including the east-block before the fall of the wall, lived in Italy, Germany, and the UK, speaks three languages, German, Italian, and English, is an artist in the field of Jazz music, has studied, in conservatory, classical flute performance, has been married to three "upper-class" women , a "von", an MD, and my current wife, a retired teacher.
    Has qualified for the "Mensa" society, with a tested IQ of over 150 points, sired a son who graduated from a top German university, and on and on : These are the marks of someone who does not know the first thing about "reality"

    You are hopelessly stupid and out of your mind.

    AJM

    wow…a legend in his own mind…don’t tell me, you also helped Jack off a horse…

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    Could you both please get off the bus, and then kick each other's ass?
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " You also helped jack off a horse"

    Here we have yet another fine example of the intellectual niveau of leftist morons when they are confronted with issues which they do not comprehend.

    Their only option then being to attack their opponent with dumb-ass insult and vile slander.

    AJM
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  121. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @MacNucc11
    You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy. Here is from the link you provided which states what they are about;

    https://www.usni.org/about

    Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.

    Thanks for your comment.

    Please look at the names and photos of the board directors of this (You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy) USG front.

    https://www.usni.org/board-directors

    All the (ret.) USG military mass murderers are working with USNI.org. It is USG front.
    One of them is the criminal Gen John R. Allen, who gave a very scary speech on behalf of the mass murder Hillary Clinton at the time of ‘elections’ to support her presidency and her criminal position against Iran in support of the criminal zionists.

    You just look at their pictures to tell us if USNI is really ‘independent’?

    Would you work for the criminal Kissinger, since at OLD AGE they don’t have any use for him and he can make more money by selling his ‘expertise’ to thieves and terrorists. This ‘useful’ website, basically works with USG former mass murderers and call itself ‘independent’. Don’t be fooled.

    US Naval Institute is filled with a lot of former Zionist jews military agents, like other organizations. This is the same as USG Naval except it is filled with more criminals who have reached retirement age making more money. They have not abandoned their criminal views, haven’t they?

    [Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.] SURE!!!!!!

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    Gen. ALLEN, not the same General Allen who was hot bunking with Gen. DAVID Petrius at Jill Kelly's swanky hacienda in Tampa, Florida, home of CENTCOM, per chance?
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  122. And I thought George Orwell’s 1984 was a work of fiction…

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  123. limo says:
    @Harold Smith
    "And so, once again, Western liberals, and others obsessed with Donald Trump, having been teased into a painfully tumescent paroxysm of anticipation of some unimaginably horrible event that would finally lead to Trump’s impeachment (or his removal from office by other means) were left standing around with their hysteria in their hands."

    Perhaps the whole thing is just political theater in which Orange Clown is a knowing, willing participant...just like it's been since Orange Clown began his fraudulent presidential campaign?

    Did Orange Clown get the U.S. out of NATO? No. Did Orange Clown demand an investigation into 9/11? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Afghanistan? No. Did Orange Clown pull the troops out of Syria? No. Did Orange Clown reverse the military buildup in Europe threatening Russia? No.

    What of substance has Orange Clown actually done to obstruct or reverse the "deep state" agenda for world domination and control, or to attack the "deep state" itself? Little or nothing, apparently.

    Thus when the stench of Orange Clown's fraudulence becomes unbearable (as it periodically does), the "deep state" have to give their hapless puppet a shot of "credibility." So (rather than investigate 9/11, pull out of Syria, or lift sanctions on Russia) they have him call Putin on the phone and congratulate him for his election victory while they make a big deal out of the carefully calculated "treason." Or they send him to England to feast on the political carrion of their loyal servant, Theresa May (who had to be sacrificed for the greater good), thereby picking up some faux credibility with the true believers; or they arrange a meaningless "summit" with Vladimir Putin and again make a big deal out of it, etc.

    It seems Orange Clown is steering the Titanic into the iceberg with one hand while furiously rearranging the deck chairs with the other. And our attention is always directed to the deck chair rearrangement.

    If this is the case, tell us what in fact your lovely obama had done. You may not like Trump, but any attempts to do anything, he is stymied by just about everyone including the obama appointed judges who even though they know they will get kicked down in the end, are under instructions to just resist him on any and everything so that nothing would seem to be accomplished; and of course there is the liberal press who already have their scripts for whether he fails or succeeds to make huge critiques of him, the only thing they are told to keep doing is anything negative negative negative.

    In the interim, the economy is the best ever (OH, but that is because of obama right?), NATO may not have been eliminated but now all the other countries are paying their share, ISIS does no longer seem to be a threat although I feel this is more due to the efforts of Russia and even Iran, and all Trump gets is endless critique because he doesn’t want to start a war.

    Just incredulous really. Here’s hoping for a red state across the board victory in November just to send the blues with their tails between their legs, a more disgusting group pathetic, unhinged violent and just plain stupid and hypocritical I have never seen, it is just surreal to watch and listen to them.

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    "If this is the case, tell us what in fact your lovely obama had done. "

    Aw c'mon, you're supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your drivelous statist apologia.

    "You may not like Trump, but any attempts to do anything, he is stymied by just about everyone including ..."

    LOL! Seriously? So Orange Clown is just some kind of innocent bystander? Well he wasn't too "stymied" to violate the constitution and the UN charter and risk war with Russia by launching cruise missiles at Syrian government forces, was he? He wasn't too "stymied" to seize Russian diplomatic property in San Francisco, insultingly giving the staff only two days to vacate the property. He wasn't too "stymied" to pull out of the JCPOA with Iran and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem; both in the face of serious domestic and foreign opposition. He wasn't too "stymied" to send anti-tank missiles to Ukraine. Etc.
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  124. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB
    wow...a legend in his own mind...don't tell me, you also helped Jack off a horse...

    Could you both please get off the bus, and then kick each other’s ass?

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    yeah sure thing 'anonyhomo'...maybe you can play jazzman's flute a little....?
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  125. FB says:
    @anonymous
    Could you both please get off the bus, and then kick each other's ass?

    yeah sure thing ‘anonyhomo’…maybe you can play jazzman’s flute a little….?

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  126. prusmc says: • Website
    @anonymous
    Thanks for your comment.

    Please look at the names and photos of the board directors of this (You are confusing the US naval institute with the U.S. Navy) USG front.

    https://www.usni.org/board-directors

    All the (ret.) USG military mass murderers are working with USNI.org. It is USG front.
    One of them is the criminal Gen John R. Allen, who gave a very scary speech on behalf of the mass murder Hillary Clinton at the time of ‘elections’ to support her presidency and her criminal position against Iran in support of the criminal zionists.

    You just look at their pictures to tell us if USNI is really 'independent'?

    Would you work for the criminal Kissinger, since at OLD AGE they don't have any use for him and he can make more money by selling his 'expertise' to thieves and terrorists. This 'useful' website, basically works with USG former mass murderers and call itself 'independent'. Don't be fooled.

    US Naval Institute is filled with a lot of former Zionist jews military agents, like other organizations. This is the same as USG Naval except it is filled with more criminals who have reached retirement age making more money. They have not abandoned their criminal views, haven't they?

    [Basically it is an independent blog talking about naval topics.] SURE!!!!!!


    https://cdn08.usni.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/staff_image/P6%20-%20Gen%20Allen.jpg

    Gen. ALLEN, not the same General Allen who was hot bunking with Gen. DAVID Petrius at Jill Kelly’s swanky hacienda in Tampa, Florida, home of CENTCOM, per chance?

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  127. @limo
    If this is the case, tell us what in fact your lovely obama had done. You may not like Trump, but any attempts to do anything, he is stymied by just about everyone including the obama appointed judges who even though they know they will get kicked down in the end, are under instructions to just resist him on any and everything so that nothing would seem to be accomplished; and of course there is the liberal press who already have their scripts for whether he fails or succeeds to make huge critiques of him, the only thing they are told to keep doing is anything negative negative negative.

    In the interim, the economy is the best ever (OH, but that is because of obama right?), NATO may not have been eliminated but now all the other countries are paying their share, ISIS does no longer seem to be a threat although I feel this is more due to the efforts of Russia and even Iran, and all Trump gets is endless critique because he doesn't want to start a war.

    Just incredulous really. Here's hoping for a red state across the board victory in November just to send the blues with their tails between their legs, a more disgusting group pathetic, unhinged violent and just plain stupid and hypocritical I have never seen, it is just surreal to watch and listen to them.

    “If this is the case, tell us what in fact your lovely obama had done. ”

    Aw c’mon, you’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your drivelous statist apologia.

    “You may not like Trump, but any attempts to do anything, he is stymied by just about everyone including …”

    LOL! Seriously? So Orange Clown is just some kind of innocent bystander? Well he wasn’t too “stymied” to violate the constitution and the UN charter and risk war with Russia by launching cruise missiles at Syrian government forces, was he? He wasn’t too “stymied” to seize Russian diplomatic property in San Francisco, insultingly giving the staff only two days to vacate the property. He wasn’t too “stymied” to pull out of the JCPOA with Iran and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem; both in the face of serious domestic and foreign opposition. He wasn’t too “stymied” to send anti-tank missiles to Ukraine. Etc.

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  129. It seems to me that most “analysts” (including PCR) are ignoring some important context in which Orange Clown conducts his “treasonous” posturing; namely, Russia’s superior missile and missile defense technology.

    Orange Clown’s handlers must realize by now that in any conflict with Russia, the U.S. “missile defense system” is obsolete; the U.S. Navy itself is obsolete; and Russia has the edge in air defense systems (especially when the S-500 system is deployed in the near future), electronic warfare and who knows what else.

    So what’s a coterie of aspiring world rulers to do when they realize they are falling seriously behind in military capability, and when they further realize, as they likely have, that the same corruption that brought them to power in the first place now dooms them to ultimate failure. (That is to say, they may by now realize at some level of consciousness that they will NEVER be able to regain the military edge over Russia because they cannot have their cake and eat it too).

    So after many months of antagonizing Russia, Russia announces to the world its new weapon systems (and through tests undoubtedly monitored by the U.S., demonstrates them); then Orange Clown all of a sudden has some kind of spiritual epiphany and/or finds his missing testicles?

    I can’t buy what they’re selling. I think the Orange Clown in the picture above is the exact same guileful and morally bankrupt Orange Clown that appointed Nikki Haley as ambassador to the UN; told the world Obama was “too soft on Russia”; demanded Russia give back Crimea; seized the Russian consulate in San Francisco; etc.

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  130. @FB
    wow...a legend in his own mind...don't tell me, you also helped Jack off a horse...

    ” You also helped jack off a horse”

    Here we have yet another fine example of the intellectual niveau of leftist morons when they are confronted with issues which they do not comprehend.

    Their only option then being to attack their opponent with dumb-ass insult and vile slander.

    AJM

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    Think of it as another feather in your cap...LOL...
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  131. Che Guava says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    What do you think of Kin Dza Dza? Excuse me not writing the tittle in Russian Cyrillic, do not have enough letters yet.
     
    One of Danelia's truly great films. Obviously it became one of the greatest quote generators of all time in USSR (after 17 Instances of Spring) and a distinct anti-utopia which today more and more looks like as West's future (same as Orwell's 1984). It is also very quirky. One of the themes of this movie is degeneration of arts--really prophetic.

    Also seems to have supported coup d’etat there.
     
    Mmm, difficult to say, honestly on this account. As with Orwell--it all seemed so anti-"Soviet" but here we are, look at the modern West, it increasingly becomes 1984.

    Thank you,

    It is, strangely enough, only popular in Japan and Russia.

    Although the first (of three ) times I was seeing it at a cinema, they were passing out generous samples nf Georgian wine, after the screening.

    So, suppose that was the Georgian Embassy.the composer of most of the music was Georgian. I bought his CD, very good music and beyond the themes in the film.

    Also buying the DVD with Japanese side-titles, a film I always love,

    That it was predictive in many ways, to what extent was it part of a plot?

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  132. Art says:

    We spend 1,000 billion dollars on security. This is crazy! What good does it do? We are not safer!

    War Doesn’t Make Sense Anymore

    It’s become obsolete, the days of conquest are behind us, yet the military-industrial complex grinds on all the same.

    By TOM STREITHORST • July 18, 2018

    America spends more on its military than all its enemies put together yet it still can’t win wars. Failed adventures in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan have drained America’s power and diminished its prestige. The bloated Pentagon budget actually makes us weaker.

    Here’s the weird bit: nobody seems to care. If any other government department spent as much and accomplished as little, the populace would be in arms, complaining about wasteful government spending. Instead we mumble “Thank you for your service” and increase defense appropriations.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/war-doesnt-make-sense-anymore/

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Western Christianity — Art

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  133. @MacNucc11
    I don't know, I kind of get a good laugh over what a fuss all these fools make of it. They play it again and again like it was actual news. They are delusional in the extreme like it will somehow end the Trump presidency. I think for all their gibberish about science and marches for science, they really have a strong belief in magic and fantasy.

    I am sure I am ahead of myself here. But I am concerned that President Trump has backed himself in a corner from which there is no easy escape.

    If he agrees with the report, better relations with Russia must include dealing with the russian actions against US democracy in country and the role of the russian president who ordered it.

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  134. FB says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " You also helped jack off a horse"

    Here we have yet another fine example of the intellectual niveau of leftist morons when they are confronted with issues which they do not comprehend.

    Their only option then being to attack their opponent with dumb-ass insult and vile slander.

    AJM

    Think of it as another feather in your cap…LOL…

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  135. TG says:

    Haha! Very clever.

    But as much fun as it is to point out how surface-ridiculous this neoliberal nonsense is, let’s not forget that the people behind it are very intelligent, very focused, and have the moral sense of reptiles. Our oligarchs – Mark Zuckerberg, the Koch brothers, etc.etc., they are not liberal, they don’t believe for one nanosecond all this crud about the invasion of the Putin Nazis. This is a very powerful, extremely brutal act of carefully orchestrated mass-effect propaganda – and it’s working!

    These people don’t hate Trump. They only want to make sure that he doesn’t get to keep his campaign promises to his voters. So far, they are succeeding. Certainly we are back into wasting trillions on pointless foreign wars while starving our own country of investment, their pressure got Trump to turn 180 degrees on that. And while Sessions continues to try to nibble around the edges of immigration, for the most part the border remain wide open and it’s cheap labor full speed ahead. And all those trillions we are spending subsidizing Wall Street? The government-subsidized student load racket?

    The idea is to just use mass-effect propaganda to cow/condition the populace, and it seems to be working just fine. Not something to snicker at.

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