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I disagree with President Donald Trump about practically everything. With two exceptions.

First, Trump said it from Day One: “Getting along with Russia and China and with everybody is a very good thing. It’s good for the world, it’s good for the U.S.” He said it again regarding his planned July 16 meeting with Russian president Vladimir Putin.

For some years now, we’ve been sleepwalking toward war with Russia, as I try to show at https://www.unz.com/article/ukraine-syria-russiagate-the-media-and-the-risk-of-nuclear-war/. And we now have an opportunity to reduce that risk, with a couple of easy actions.

That’s why the Trump-Putin summit has my attention. As U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley observed, “Only nuclear weapons have the capacity to wipe out humanity in the blink of an eye.”

In 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis took us close to just that catastrophe. Thereafter, the two superpowers negotiated several treaties to decrease the risk of nuclear war. The system that evolved was called Mutually Assured Destruction, or MAD: neither power could launch a first strike because the other could always retaliate. The 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty preserved that system by prohibiting deployment of weapons that could neutralize a retaliatory strike.

Is that crazy, or what? Could anyone seriously consider starting a nuclear war? Daniel Ellsberg gives the unpleasant answer in “The Doomsday Machine: Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner.” In fact, the so-called “missile defense” system, a gigantic boondoggle for the military-industrial complex, also looks like a plan to wage and “win” a nuclear war.

Such demented thinking was probably behind U.S. withdrawal, in 2002, from the ABM Treaty, and deployment of the “missile defense shield.” The shield, if effective, would make a nuclear first-strike thinkable, because it could defeat the retaliating strike.

Putin repeatedly asked the U.S. to discontinue its missile defense deployment, warning that Russia would have to take counter-measures. But the deployments have continued. Then, on March 1, Putin announced Russian development of new weapons that he claimed would render a missile shield ineffective.

Make your own assessment. You can see Putin’s speech at

His 30-minute description of the new weapons starts at 1h:18m. A transcript, also with videos, is at http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56957 . Analysis and commentary appear at http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/russia-shows-off-new-weapons-tells-us-to-come-down-to-earth.html#more ; http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/ ; http://thesaker.is/newly-revealed-russian-weapons-systems-political-implications/ ; and https://www.thenation.com/article/how-washington-provoked-and-perhaps-lost-a-new-nuclear-arms-race/ .

Putin’s announcement was dismissed as “saber-rattling.” But his tone was not threatening. Rather, he invited the U.S. “to come to the negotiating table to give thought to an updated, future system of international security and civilization’s sustainable development.”

Thankfully, a few senators were listening. Senators Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and Edward J. Markey (D-MA) promptly urged the State Department to convene the next U.S.-Russia dialogue as soon as possible. Then in late June, Senator Merkley, along with Senators Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Tina Smith (D-MN), Edward J. Markey (D-MA) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH) introduced a Senate resolution in support of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) on the occasion of its “Golden Birthday.” The full resolution can be found at https://www.merkley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/NPT%20Resolution.pdf .

The planned Trump-Putin summit offers a chance to jump-start that overdue process. You can help with a couple of small but meaningful actions: (1) Contact the White House at (202) 456-1111 or https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ . Tell the President you support his meeting with Mr. Putin, and hope he will use it to discuss nuclear arms control. (2) Contact any or all of the above-mentioned Senators via the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 or, if you reside in a State represented by one of them, via email. Thank the Senator for his or her work to support nuclear arms control and ask them to keep at it and keep you posted.

Unfortunately, the “Russiagate” investigation and widespread demonization of Putin and Russia create an atmosphere making it difficult to improve U.S.-Russia relations. This brings me to my second point of agreement with Trump, who has repeatedly denounced the investigation as a “witch hunt.” As appalling as most of Trump’s policies are, I can’t support the effort to unseat a constitutionally elected president by a campaign of disinformation and lies.

“Russiagate” is politically motivated, is founded on an act of deception, and has produced no evidence. Its cornerstone, the misleadingly titled “Intelligence Community Assessment” of January 2017, was in fact authored by hand-picked staffers from just three agencies, and even they admitted their judgments “are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact.” For details, see the London Review of Books at https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n01/jackson-lears/what-we-dont-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-russian-hacking , and a summary by former ambassador Jack Matlock at http://jackmatlock.com/2018/06/musings-russiagate-hysteria/#more-982 .

But isn’t it pointless to negotiate with the diabolical Vladimir Putin? Again, make your own assessment. Read Oliver Stone’s book of interviews with Putin, or former Australian diplomat Tony Kevin’s “Return to Moscow.” Or just take a look at the interview with Russianist Stephen Cohen posted http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/interviews-and-profiles/whos-responsible-for-the-new-cold-war-an-interview-with-renowned-russia-expert-stephen-cohen/2018/03/28/ ..

Robert Roth prosecuted consumer fraud for the attorneys general of New York (1981-91) and Oregon (1993-2007). A shorter version of this article originally appeared in the Eugene, Oregon Register-Guard.

 
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  1. From nothing to zero.

  2. ” In 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis took us close to just that catastrophe. ”
    Chrustjow was angry about USA missiles with nuclear heads in Turkey.
    His deal with Kennedy was simple: I’ll remove my missiles from Cuba, you remove yours from Turkey.
    There was no threat of nuclear war whatsoever.
    Just bluff.
    Fedor Burlatsky, ‘Khrushchev and the First Russian Spring, The era of Khrushchev through the eyes of his advisor’, 1988, London 1991

    • Replies: @WAlly
    , @James Brown
  3. m___ says:

    Fair day activism?

    Potatoe times. Nothing to write about? Our standards go down, is it the slack of summer slumping our cherished middle class of bloggers? This is a “serious” issue. Seems nobody is at the wheel, the terminals gaze at the walls.

  4. Contact any or all of the above-mentioned Senators via the United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 or, if you reside in a State represented by one of them, via email. Thank the Senator for his or her work…

    But isn’t it pointless to negotiate with the diabolical Vladimir Putin?

    I don’t consider Vladimir Putin to be even half as diabolical as the list of subversives and traitors you just suggested I call and thank.

  5. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    But we can’t have peace with Russia. Their gay parades aren’t big enough. Their lesbians aren’t even shamed into dating pre-operative men in dresses. If these aren’t issues worth nuclear conflagration, which are? That their football team isn’t at least half black or mixed race? Come on people. It is 2018 and at least one Peruvian of mostly Andean descent was just being bought a drink by a Russian at the World Cup and the Russian actually asked him “where are you from?”

    Literally Hitler.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  6. vinteuil says:
    @Tyrion 2

    For some reason, I can’t use the LOL button, even though I think I qualify to do so by the official metric – maybe because I’m in Russia at the moment?

    Anyway:

    LOL

  7. Here is an interesting look at the global impact of a regional nuclear war:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-global-consequences-of-regional.html

    There are no winners in even a relatively small nuclear exchange.

  8. Ex nihilo nihil fit!

  9. Trump’s summit with Putin “could” reduce risk of nuclear war. Could? Is that all? That sounds very meagre. All the more so as the author, quite correctly, asks “could anyone seriously consider starting a nuclear war?” It sounds like the author doesn’t believe anything very much is going to come out of Trump’s meeting with Putin.

  10. God bless Putin and Russia as they are defending Syrians and Christians in Syria where as Trump is a puppet of the satanic Zionists who are destroying the Mideast for Zionist Israel.

    Zionists control America and are destroying America with the wars and debt and their sacrifice of American lives to their lord satan in these wars and on 911.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  11. Z-man says:

    Putin’s hair is too dark in that Peter Max inspired drawing. (Grin)

  12. annamaria says:
    @DESERT FOX

    A repost on matters of NATO (from the comment section): https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-13/pat-buchanan-coming-nato-crisis-inevitable
    “Let NATO go poof and then see how fast the US will be crawling back on its knees…
    NATO is an important extension for the US worldwide hegemony as the sole surviving superpower, a vital element to maintain that sole superpower status (i.e. prevent Russia from challenging the US), an important pillar for US dominance in the Middle East, and the ‘enforcement’ side of the US Dollar Reserve Currency Status.
    Instead of dismantling NATO after the Cold War, you Americans decided to expand NATO eastward, so stop complaining! Remember the “not an inch East” promise made to Gorbachev?
    Running a global empire costs money, so stop begging. You can’t have your cake (a global empire + worldwide military dominance + USD reserve currency) and expect someone else to pay for it.
    Instead of complaining and begging, start managing your own money in a better way. Stop running up debts, stop spending money you don’t have, stop driving gas guzzling ‘ve-hi-cles’ requiring permanent wars in the Middle East, stop supporting Israel, and start to live within your means.”
    – In short, Europe does not need NATO, except the economically depressed midget states of the Baltic region and the confused Poland that still could not make its mind about Jews and Germans.
    “A new legislation attempt by the Polish government makes it almost impossible for Polish Jews to stake a claim to properties the state had seized from them after the Holocaust:” https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/World-Jewish-Restitution-Organization-urges-Poland-to-change-tracks-508002
    “Why Poland is demanding World War II reparations from Germany:” https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/why-poland-is-demanding-wwii-reparations-from-germany.html

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/polish-neighbors-and-german-invaders

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  13. annamaria says:

    PS: re Poland’s “confusion.” Considering the logic of holocaust reparations, Israelis, Americans, and Brits should pay reparations to Palestinians: “The coordinator of “Nakba Day” events has blamed Britain for Israel’s existence… “Britain “paved the way” for a “Zionist takeover” https://duckduckgo.com/?q=palestinian+reparations+from+Israel&atb=v99-2&ia=web

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  14. Naïve. Trump’s summit with Putin will yield exactly what Trump’s summit with Un did: PR on both sides and nothing substantive. If this reduces the risk of nuclear war, very good. But I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  15. @annamaria

    NATO is a scam to promote the Zionist NWO/ONE WORLD GOV and is funded 90% by we taxpayers and in addition NATO is the promoter of terrorism in the Mideast and Europe via OPERATION GLADIO ie a funder of ISIS aka AL CIADA and assorted FALSE FLAGS here in America and abroad.

    The U.S. needs to get the hell out of NATO and the UN and the Middle East and stop all foreign aid especially to Zionist Israel.

  16. @annamaria

    Now that Poland no longer is poor, and can be sued in the EU court, Israel sees a new victim for extortion

    • Replies: @annamaria
  17. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Sure. Let Ukrainians sue Nuland-Kagan and the whole Kagans clan for the triumph of neo-Nazism in Ukraine.
    But first, the Ukrainians, Russians, and Poles should confront the dirty Carl Gershman, the President of the National Endowment for Democracy and the father of neo-Nazi revival in Ukraine. https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/27/a-shadow-us-foreign-policy/
    ‘The National Endowment for Democracy has evolved into a $100 million U.S. government-financed slush fund that generally supports a neocon agenda … NED funded a staggering 65 projects in Ukraine, and created for NED what amounted to a shadow political structure of media and activist groups that could be deployed to stir up unrest when the Ukrainian government didn’t act as desired.”
    – Carl Gershman, the father of neo-Nazi revival in Ukraine — rhymes right.

  18. Mulegino1 says:

    Carl Gershman?

    According to that well known antisemitic site Wikipedia:

    In 1968, he worked in the research department of B’nai B’rith, and in 1972 he served on the Governing Council of the American Jewish Committee

    How long will it take to educate the American public to develop at least a modicum of awareness of organized Jewry, and no longer allow those kosher vermin in politics, academia, the deep state and entertainment to run loose and wreak havoc- up the point of imperiling the peace of the world and hazarding all human life on earth itself?

    America’s weakness is the disregard of its political class to their malign influence, a blindness born of syphilitic enslavement and sycophantic servility to these pestilential agents.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  19. @Mulegino1

    Look, when a person is scum, that’s his/her valid characteristic. However, scum does not necessarily equal Jew, and Jew does not necessarily equal scum. There are lots of totally repulsive non-Jewish characters in the US politics, MSM, academia, and entertainment. What’s more, there are lots of Jews who are decent people, including those individuals and organizations who abhor Israeli crimes and fight against Israel lobby. I can name Jewish Voice for Peace (https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/faq/) off hand, there are many others. Even ostensibly pro-Israel J Street (https://jstreet.org/) does not mince words when it comes to Israeli crimes.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  20. Mulegino1 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Of course I do not mean to indict all or even most individuals who happen to be born as Jews.

    I am referring to international organized Jewry which, throughout the last 150 or so years, has shown itself to be an evil and malignant influence upon humanity at large. Its leadership is always 99 percent evil- whether in its Zionist, international socialist or liberal democratic incarnations, and it invariably works to the detriment of its host society and culture.

    Take one such organization- the ADL. The ADL was founded because a convicted child rapist and murderer who was a Jew received his condign punishment at the hands of a lynch mob which was outraged that the governor of Georgia had been bribed by powerful Jews to commute his sentence of execution. Yet all this organization does is smear anyone it perceives as an insufficiently zealous or devoted worshiper of the Jews or Israel as antisemitic- this despite its founding to honor the memory of a criminal and a pervert.

    There are any number of good Jews or former Jews: Gerard Menuhin, Paul Eisen, Brother Nathaniel, Gilad Atzmon, Ilan Pappe, Israel Shahak, Israel Shamir, and of course, the founder of this website. I could cite many examples. The problem is not and never has been with the Jew as an individual, but with Jewry as an organized tribe.

  21. annamaria says:

    Mueller indictment of Russian trolls: “By June 2016, they gained access to approximately thirty-three DNC computers.” https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-13/watch-live-deputy-ag-rosenstein-makes-mysterious-law-enforcement-announcement

    – Mr. Mueller, the access to the computers was actually gained illegally by Mr. Imran Awan, a staffer of Mrs. Wasserman-Schultz: https://truepundit.com/fbi-awans-security-clearances-forged-granted-access-to-congressional-intel-despite-falsified-vetting/
    “The FBI did not conduct the background checks on members of the Awan family who were granted security clearances in Congress.”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-strange-case-of-imran-awan/

    “Thirty-seven-year-old Awan, as well as his wife and two brothers Abid and Jamal, worked as IT administrators for nearly 30 congressmen, all Democrats, including former Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
    They did not have security clearances and it is not even certain that they were in any way checked out before being hired. At one point, they brought into the House as a colleague one Rao Abbas, someone to whom they owed money and who might have had no qualifications at all to work IT. Abbas wound up working in the office of Rep. Patrick Murphy, who was at the time a member of the House Intelligence Committee, as well as for Rep. Theo Deutch. He was paid $250,000. …
    The Awans billed Congress for more than $4 million between 2004 and 2016, a sum that has been reported to be three or four times higher than the norm for government contractor IT specialists performing similar work.
    The considerable level of overbilling has not been explained by the congressmen involved. …
    The Awans came under suspicion for having set up an operation to steal and resell government-owned computer equipment. It was also believed that they had somehow obtained access to House of Representatives’ computer databases as well as to other information in the internal computer system that they were not normally authorized to work on as part of their duties. The Capitol Hill Police began an investigation and quietly alerted the congressmen involved that there might be a problem. Most stopped employing the Awan family, but Wasserman-Schultz kept Imran on the payroll until the day after he was actually arrested.”
    – First, Debbie must reimburse the US taxpayers for the fraudulent billing by her criminal staffers.
    – Second, Mueller either suffers an onset of dementia or he is committing treason by not investigating the Awan Affair, the most serious breach in the US cybersecurity.

  22. Sean says:

    There is no question that Emmett Till leaned out the window of the car as he was being driven away from the store and whistled. According to witnesses he’d wolf whistled and shouted at the woman returning to the store from her car “Bye Baby” . That was always the version of Till’s defenders, especially his mother who insisted he whistled to conceal a stutter and had not been whistling at the woman at all. He was extremely extroverted (Southern blacks thought him arrogant and contemptuous of them) and may have been mildly retarded; his father beat his mother and was given the death penalty as a soldier in Italy in WW2 for murdering two Italian women, raped them too.

    What happened before while Till was in the shop with the women was always a matter of dispute. But there is agreement from his cousins that after buying a few things and stepping outside they had a conversation with Till and challenged him to make good his boasts about sex with white girls with the large breasted but petite woman behind the counter. He went back in and a black local came out and said “You have a crazy cousin”. It seems to me that at the very least Till asked that married woman for a date and he was not very charming about it at all. He maybe didn’t, or did, come round the counter and grab her hand; in any event he certainly did something that terrified the lone (her sister in law who doubted her story was in the back during the incident) woman because she left the store and went to her car, leading the cousins who were now standing with Till outside to conclude she was getting a gun, which in fact she was. An old black told them to get out of there immediately so them jumped in the car.

    Till was a husky youth who even his mother admitted looked like a man. He was also extremely tough and would not apologize to the husband and brother despite them administering a severe beating. If there is any time and place to say ‘I am as good as you and I have had sex with white girls’ that was definitely not it. He was killed for being arrogant and not giving a shit about pain or death. Such recalcitrance in the face of an angry husband could have got him killed just as easily in any low class black area of America .

    • Replies: @Sean
  23. Sean says:
    @Sean

    Sorry all, wrongly posted.

  24. WAlly says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I agree, it was basic horse trading.

    The ‘we were on the verge nuclear annihilation’ was / is media hyperbole as usual.

    In seems to get bigger every time it’s discussed.

  25. @jilles dykstra

    “Just bluff.”

    Agree.

    Then how can you be now a firm believer in “cold war 2″.

    It isn’t obvious that “cold war 2″ is just another lie from the MIS-C (military industrial spy complex)?

    It isn’t obvious that the force that control the USA, also controls Russia and Putin ?

    It isn’t obvious that Russia isn’t an independent country and she isn’t even trying to be an Independent country like Iran, Venezuela or Syria ?

    “For some years now, we’ve been sleepwalking toward war with Russia,”

    The writer of this piece and other “experts” on Russia having been telling us this nonsense for more than 10 years now.They don’t know that they are “Useful Idiots” of the MIS-C.

    But you should know better.

  26. annamaria says:

    More on the FBI/DOJ cancan show (with smile):
    From the comment section https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-14/rod-rosenstein-impeachment-plans-drawn-report
    “Breaking News! OT, but Mrs Boattrash sent me the names of the 12 Russians indicted by Mueller…
    1. Hillarina Klintonskaya
    2: Barak Obamavich
    3. Sallyezhda Yatesina
    4. Ivan Brennanovsky
    5. Valeriya Zharretovna
    6. Yakov Comeyevski
    7. Pyotr Strzokov
    8. Loretmila Lynchkova
    9. Ivan McCainovonovich
    10. Sosana Ricenkovna
    11. Yakov Klappereyevich
    12. Ivan Podestinky
    ———————————
    — The list should also include Chris Steelov, Stepan Halperensky, Ivan Awanovich, and Dina Wassermanovna: https://nypost.com/2018/05/19/cambridge-professor-outed-as-fbi-informant-inside-trump-campaign/ “Multiple media outlets have named Stefan Halper, 73, as the secret informant… He has provided information to US intelligence services “for years,” according to the Washington Post.”
    — What was the ground for the anti-Constitutional activities by the criminal Clintonites — “a fight to save our democracy from foreign attacks?” Meaning, to kill the US constitution to save what? — https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2018/02/17/russia-is-at-war-with-our-democracy-when-will-we-finally-start-defending-it/?utm_term=.a13512da3667
    — The presstituting Brian Klaas avoids looking at the pernicious and well-documented anti-US influence of a certain theocratic and supremacist state in the Middle East.
    Here is more for Brian Klaas to ponder: http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/18/imran-awan-usb-drive-pakistan/
    “The father of Imran Awan — an IT aide to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz who investigators concluded made “unauthorized access” to House servers — transferred a USB drive to a Pakistani senator and former head of a Pakistani intelligence agency, the father’s ex-business partner, Rashid Minhas, alleged.”

  27. Trump’s truism about getting along is not just a good idea, it’s the law. State and federal common law, that is, as customary international law, specifically A/Res/2625 (XXV),

    http://un-documents.net/a25r2625.htm

    CIA knows this. That is why they are ramping up provocations against Russia to poison the atmosphere of the pending summit. This is what CIA has always done. Gary Powers’ U2 flight was a CIA provocation to thwart the Eisenhower/Herter plan for comprehensive disarmament.

    https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/STchp20.html

    The U2 provocation followed another CIA provocation,

    https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/STchp17.html

    The summit failed because Krushchev expected Ike to disclaim responsibility for provocation and the fire the real culprits, Dulles and Bissell. Ike was afraid to do it, and CIA got continued war mobilization and anticommunist mass hysteria.

    So if Putin confronts Trump with the evidence of CIA responsibility for recent provocations, will Trump fire Haspel and her SIS henchmen? If Trump doesn’t have the balls to do it, he’s Gina’s bitch for life.

  28. Anonymous Conservative sees an interesting contrast between 2012 and 2017:

    https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/child-adoptions-what-did-putin-know/

    2012
    President Vladimir V. Putin signed a bill on Friday that bans the adoption of Russian children by American citizens, dealing a serious blow to an already strained diplomatic relationship. But for hundreds of Americans enmeshed in the costly, complicated adoption process, the impact was deeply personal.

    and

    2017
    Moscow is willing to open talks with the U.S. about lifting a 4-year-old ban on Americans adopting Russian children, the speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament said Wednesday.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  29. Isn’t anyone in Europe afraid of Trump and Putin cutting deals about Europe?

    Trump changes his opinions daily, be it US-Allies, Europe, Kim Jong-un, Putin etc. etc. One day he threatens, the next day he is a friend. On a whim. Does anyone know for sure, what his motives are?

    Finns have a good reason to be extremely suspicious about the Trump-Putin summit. Yalta 2.0. Stalin and Roosevelt. Secret agreements, carving up Europe like it was a cake. Did neither one of them care about the democracy and freedom of Europeans? Nope.

    It was disgusting to see, how the West chose to ignore the horrors in those nations, which were given to Stalin.

    Is it any wonder, that we hear on a daily basis warnings from experts, that Trump might give concessions to Putin, a Yalta 2.0, where Trump and Putin divide the world into their spheres of interest?

    Finns have zero to none trust in both of them. “One has an orange tan and the other one wears high heels. Both have big egos. Putin knows the game, being a former KGB-agent, and Trump has no experience, no knowledge, he is arrogant and acts like a five-year old child. The bets are, that Putin will beat Trump 100-0. Trump will have no problems to betray his US-Allies, just to please Putin. Russia and Russians & America and Americans first. S*crew the rest.”

    Trump repeated about restoring Russia’s former borders during his election campaign. Putin has talked for years how Europe has to be divided into US- Russian spheres of interests. There is no doubt, that Finland will be handed over to Putin, as long as Trump gets his own areas.

    A few weeks ago, before knowing about this summit, I had a dream, where Putin and Trump were in a room. There was a map on the table and both Sweden and Finland were “Putin’s”.

    A voice said, that this is the reason why we never were even allowed in Nato, because all Nato-countries will be occupied by US-forces, who are already stationed there. And both occupiers will bring unspeakable terror.

    How will Europeans feel, if they are suddenly occupied by US- or Russian forces?

    How will American soldiers feel about occupying and killing innocent Europeans?

    How will Russian soldiers feel about occupying and killing innocent Finns?

    Several old prophecies have told, that WW3 breaks out suddenly at the end of July. Many have said the year to be 2018. All have said Russians to be the attackers.

    History repeats itself when denied.

  30. @Lauri Törni

    Horror of horrors. Putin right stop the Somali invasion of Sweden and bar transgonders from their army.

    • Replies: @Lauri Törni
  31. I’m Amazed ,at least, that you didn’t let your bias of president Trump interfere with your opinion on the summit .

  32. @Fidelios Automata

    Do you seriously believe, that if Putin occupies Sweden then Sweden’s problem with immigrants is solved and Sweden’s army is built up with Swedish men???

    USSR policy was all about killing/deporting natives and replacing them with primitive Russian peasants, thus destroying cultures and roots.

    An authentic document was posted with amounts of hundred thousands Finns, who were to be deported to different locations after Stalin had occupied Finland. Polish prisoners were killed in masses – to make room for Finnish prisoners. Finland was to be filled with Belarussians after that.

    Vyborg was Finland’s pride, the massive Alvar Aalto library, the hectic trading, signs written in Finnish, German, Swedish and Russian. When European aristocrats went partying, the entourages went to Vyborg, not to Paris. Vyborg was The Place.

    After Stalin was given Vyborg in the Peace Treaty, Finns were massmurdered and Soviet troops welcomed the new habitants at the train station. Cosacks and peasants, who had never seen anything like Vyborg before, who did not even know what a water toilet was, let alone use it (Estonians can probably tell similar stories…).

    Soviet soldiers told them, that Vyborg is now their city and that they can live in any apartment they want to.

    They were stupified when seeing the huge library filled with books, they could not understand why it was even built and they had plans to transform it to a huge sauna.

    Soviet soldiers made bonfires inside the library, burning books, to dry their feltboots.

    Vyborg crashed culturally.

    What the West does today, is an exact replica of what USSR did. Russia hasn’t changed, otherwise they would pay compensations to all their satellite states and apologize for their criminal deeds.

    Since they haven’t, they have the same spirit they had during USSR. Stalin is brought back to life in Russia, so the infamous “peacemaker” is back in the game.

    USSR repalced the natives when it invaded the nations.

    Pre-2003 you didn’t even hear of any hordes of migrants. But after the US-invasion to Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya etc. etc. the massmigration started. It was not because of the stupidity of Western leaders, it was pre-planned by the global elite. And Putin is part of that elite. Remember how he suddenly rose to power in 1999? Suddenly he was a Prime Minister, two months later he was Russia’s president.

    Nostradamus prophecies mentions the year only a few time:

    The year 1999, seventh month,
    from the sky will come a great King of Terror:
    to bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
    before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

    Stalinism has already become a cult in Russia. Putin praises Stalin. He is definitely “brought back to life”, Stalin the great King of Terror and the King of the Mongols.

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  33. annamaria says:
    @Lauri Törni

    “…Russians to be the attackers.”
    Our Chinese candidate Mrs. Clinton: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/07/editorial-china-hacked-clintons-e-mail.html#disqus_thread
    “Looks like a hacking operation by China. They nailed Clinton’s completely unprotected system and then inserted code that gave them all her traffic over e-mail subsequent to that. That included all her State Department classified traffic which she had her staff illegally scan and insert in her private e-mail. We are talking about 30,000+ messages. Strzok was told that by the Intelligence Community Inspector General WHILE he was running the Clinton e-mail investigation and chose to ignore it.”
    ————————–
    What was CrowdStrike job — to protect the servers?
    What was Brennan’ job — to protect the US?
    From the comment section: “This entire ‘Russia, Russia, Russia’ campaign is now in criminal conspiracy territory. I can imagine the Maoist Mandarins in Pekin chuckling as they contemplate Americas’ new “Interesting Times.”
    – This explains the deafening hysterical wailing from the MSM presstitutes: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-17/mish-mass-hysteria

  34. Rurik says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    President Vladimir V. Putin signed a bill on Friday that bans the adoption of Russian children by American citizens,

    this is why that ban was overdue and made sense

    https://www.rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10635821/Russia-bans-adoptions-from-countries-that-allow-gay-marriage.html

    one of the main reasons, (if not the main reason) the homos (and the demented progressives) demanded homo “marriage”, was to normalize the viscerally revolting (and unhealthy) practice of male sodomy as ‘just another healthy lifestyle choice! And by doing so, create the kind of depravity of a society that would allow homosexual men to adopt boys.

    We already see the Vatican treating homosexual rape of little boys as normal, not to mention the entire British aristocracy, all the way to Penn State university, where a serial boy rapist was coddled and even allowed to create a summer camp for children, in order to have access to a never ending supply of victims. (at least 45 of Sandusky’s victims were culled from this ‘charitable’ endeavor).

    And all of it knowingly tolerated (or perhaps celebrated) by the entire university administration and athletic dept., including the ((Dean)) of the university.

    So, as the zio-West plummets into the depths of a moral abyss, and tolerates men raping little boys, as just one more liberal, progressive thing to celebrate, it behooved Russia to end the adoptions.

    I remember talking to a liberal once about homo-adoptions, and asked him if there was anything wrong or otherwise negative about being ‘gay’. He said “No!’

    then I asked him, ‘well if there’s nothing wrong or negative about being homosexual, and practicing an ‘in-your-face, raucous homosexual lifestyle, then let me ask you..

    ‘why then wouldn’t it be laudable for homosexual men to encourage their adopted son to be homosexual?’

    he refused to answer the question, because he didn’t want to give it all away.

  35. Rurik says:
    @Lauri Törni

    What the West does today, is an exact replica of what USSR did. Russia hasn’t changed, otherwise they would pay compensations to all their satellite states and apologize for their criminal deeds.

    there is a lot of truth to what you say

    Russia should send the machinery necessary to destroy every single monument to the Red Army rapists that continues to profane the sacred and blood-soaked soil of the former satellite states.

    And then, in a gesture that is reminiscent of the British craftsman, Alan Smith, whose father was one of the (reluctant) war criminals who bombed Dresden -

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/1465293/Cross-of-RAF-pilots-son-crowns-rebuilt-church-in-Dresden.html

    Russia should help fund and build monuments to the heroes (including Russian nationals) who died fighting the Red Army rapists and savages who so cruelty descended upon Eastern Europe.

    There needs to be a rapprochement between Russia and its neighbors. Putin needs to make that clear, as he has already been doing at places like this –

    https://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ssf/2010/04/katyn_massacre_gesture_to_pola.html

    During the ceremony, Putin also offered what appeared to be his harshest condemnation of Stalin’s rule to date on Tuesday, saying: “In our country there has been a clear political, legal and moral judgment made of the evil acts of this totalitarian regime, and this judgment cannot be revised.”

    Well said Mr. Putin!

    And God speed in your continued tenure as perhaps Russia’s greatest statesman in a millennium.

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