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April 9th • The Rush to War

I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. But I do rule out the possibility that Assad is dropping chemical weapons in Ghouta. In this extraordinary war, where Saudi-funded jihadist head choppers have Israeli air support and US and UK military “advisers”, every time the Syrian army is about to take complete control of a major jihadist enclave, at the last moment when victory is in their grasp, the Syrian Army allegedly attacks children with chemical weapons, for no military reason at all. We have been fed this narrative again and again and again.

We then face a propaganda onslaught from neo-con politicians, think tanks and “charities” urging a great rain of Western bombs and missiles, and are accused of callousness towards suffering children if we demur. This despite the certain knowledge that Western military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have had consequences which remain to this day utterly disastrous.

I fear that the massive orchestration of Russophobia over the last two years is intended to prepare public opinion for a wider military conflict centred on the Middle East, but likely to spread, and that we are approaching that endgame. The dislocation of the political and media class from the general population is such, that the levers for people of goodwill to prevent this are, as with Iraq, extremely few as politicians quake in the face of media jingoism. These feel like extremely dangerous times.

April 11th • The Four Horsemen Gallop By

The media onslaught has moved past the attack in Salisbury by a “weapon of mass destruction” (quoting Theresa May) which could only be Russian, except that was untrue, and was extremely deadly, except that was untrue too. It now focuses on an attack by chemical weapons in Douma which “could only be” by the Russian-backed Assad regime, except there is no evidence of that either, and indeed neutral verified evidence from Douma is non-existent. The combination of the two events is supposed to have the British population revved up by jingoism, and indeed does have Tony Blair and assorted Tories revved up, to attack Syria and potentially to enter conflict with Russia in Syria.

The “Russian” attack in Salisbury is supposed to negate the “not our war” argument, particularly as a British policeman was unwell for a while. Precisely what is meant to negate the “why on earth are we entering armed confrontation with a nuclear power” argument, I do not know.

Saudi Arabia has naturally offered facilities to support the UK, US and France in their attempt to turn the military tide in Syria in favour of the Saudi sponsored jihadists whom Assad had come close to defeating. That the Skripal and Douma incidents were preceded by extremely intense diplomatic activity between Saudi Arabia, Washington, Paris and London this year, with multiple top level visits between capitals, is presumably supposed to be coincidence.

I am not a fan of Assad any more than I was a fan of Saddam Hussein. But the public now understand that wars for regime change in Muslim lands have disastrous effects in dead and maimed adults and children and in destroyed infrastructure; our attacks unleash huge refugee waves and directly cause terrorist attacks here at home. There is no purpose in a military attack on Syria other than to attempt to help the jihadists overthrow Assad. There is a reckless disregard for evidence base on the pretexts for all this. Indeed, the more the evidence is scrutinised, the dodgier it seems. Finally there is a massive difference between mainstream media narrative around these events and a deeply sceptical public, as shown in social media and in comments sections of corporate media websites.

The notion that Britain will take part in military action against Syria with neither investigation of the evidence nor a parliamentary vote is worrying indeed. Without Security Council authorisation, any such action is illegal in any event. It is worth noting that the many commentators who attempt to portray Russia’s veto of a Syria resolution as invalid, fail to note that last week, in two separate 14 against 1 votes, the USA vetoed security council resolutions condemning Israeli killings of unarmed demonstrators in Gaza.

The lesson the neo-cons learnt from the Iraq war is not that it was disastrous. It was only disastrous for the dead and maimed Iraqis, our own dead and maimed servicemen, and those whose country was returned to medievalism. It was a great success for the neo-cons, they made loads of money on armaments and oil. The lesson the neo-cons learned was not to give the public in the West any time to mount and organise opposition. Hence the destruction of Libya was predicated on an entirely false “we have 48 hours to prevent the massacre of the population of Benghazi” narrative. Similarly this latest orchestrated “crisis” is being followed through into military action at a blistering pace, as the four horsemen sweep by, scything down reason and justice on the way.

April 11th • Yulia Skripal Is Plainly Under Duress

Only the Russians have allowed us to hear the actual voice of Yulia Skripal, in that recorded conversation with her cousin. So the one thing we know for certain is that, at the very first opportunity she had, she called back to her cousin in Russia to let her know what is going on. If you can recall, until the Russians released that phone call, the British authorities were still telling lies that Sergei was in a coma and Yulia herself in a serious condition.

We do not know how Yulia got to make the call. Having myself been admitted unconscious to hospital on several occasions, each time when I came to I found my mobile phone in my bedside cabinet. Yulia’s mobile phone plainly had been removed from her and not returned. Nor had she been given an official one – she specifically told her cousin that she could not call her back on that phone as she had it temporarily. The British government could have given her one to keep on which she could be called back, had they wished to help her.

The most probable explanation is that Yulia persuaded somebody else in the hospital to lend her a phone, without British officials realising. That would explain why the first instinct of the British state and its lackey media was to doubt the authenticity of the call. It would explain why she was able to contradict the official narrative on their health, and why she couldn’t get a return call. It would, more importantly, explain why her family has not been able to hear her voice since. Nor has anybody else.

It strikes me as inherently improbable that, when Yulia called her cousin as her first act the very moment she was able, she would now issue a formal statement through Scotland Yard forbidding her cousin to be in touch or visit. I simply do not believe this British Police statement:

“I was discharged from Salisbury District Hospital on the 9th April 2018. I was treated there with obvious clinical expertise and with such kindness, that I have found I missed the staff immediately.
“I have left my father in their care, and he is still seriously ill. I too am still suffering with the effects of the nerve agent used against us.
“I find myself in a totally different life than the ordinary one I left just over a month ago, and I am seeking to come to terms with my prospects, whilst also recovering from this attack on me.
“I have specially trained officers available to me, who are helping to take care of me and to explain the investigative processes that are being undertaken. I have access to friends and family, and I have been made aware of my specific contacts at the Russian Embassy who have kindly offered me their assistance in any way they can. At the moment I do not wish to avail myself of their services, but, if I change my mind I know how to contact them.
“Most importantly, I am safe and feeling better as time goes by, but I am not yet strong enough to give a full interview to the media, as I one day hope to do. Until that time, I want to stress that no one speaks for me, or for my father, but ourselves. I thank my cousin Viktoria for her concern for us, but ask that she does not visit me or try to contact me for the time being. Her opinions and assertions are not mine and they are not my father’s.
“For the moment I do not wish to speak to the press or the media, and ask for their understanding and patience whilst I try to come to terms with my current situation.”

There is also the very serious question of the language it is written in. Yulia Skripal lived part of her childhood in the UK and speaks good English. But the above statement is in a particular type of formal, official English of a high level which only comes from a certain kind of native speaker.

“At the moment I do not wish to avail myself of their services” – wrote no native Russian speaker, ever.

Nor are the rhythms or idioms such as would in any way indicate a translation from Russian. Take “I thank my cousin Viktoria for her concern for us, but ask that she does not visit me or try to contact me for the time being. Her opinions and assertions are not mine and they are not my father’s.” Not only is this incredibly cold given her first impulse was to phone her cousin, the language is just wrong. It is not the English Yulia would write and it is awkward to translate into Russian, thus not a natural translation from it.

To put it plainly, as someone who has much experience of it, the English of the statement is precisely the English of an official in the UK security services and precisely not the English of somebody like Yulia Skripal or of a natural translation from Russian.

Yulia is, of course, in protective custody “for her own safety”. At the very best, she is being psychologically force-fed the story about the evil Russian government attempting to poison her with the doorknob, and she is being kept totally isolated from any influence that may reinforce any doubts she feels as to that story. There are much worse alternatives involving threat or the safety of her father. But even at the most benevolent reading of the British authorities’ actions, Yulia Skripal is being kept incommunicado, and under duress.

April 12th • OPCW Salisbury Report Confirms Nothing But the Identity of the Chemical

The word “Russia” does not occur in today’s OPCW report. The OPCW Report says nothing whatsoever about the origin of the chemical which poisoned the Skripals and certainly does not link it in any way to Russia.

The technical ability of Porton Down to identify a chemical has never been in doubt, and the only “finding of the United Kingdom”the OPCW has confirmed is the identity of the chemical.

10. The results of analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and
biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United
Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and
severely injured three people.
11. The TAV team notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity. The latter is
concluded from the almost complete absence of impurities.

There are scores of countries that chemical could have come from. For the BBC and other mainstream media outlets to pretend that the OPCW has in any sense endorsed Boris Johnson’s claims about Russia is to spread deliberate lies as propaganda. In fact what they have confirmed is simply the finding of Porton Down – and that finding was that it is a chemical which cannot be confirmed as made in Russia.

April 13th • Some Dead Children Count More Than Others

The ever excellent Campaign Against the Arms Trade is back in the English High Court again today in its continuing attempts to ban arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It is against UK law to sell arms to a country which is likely to use them in breach of international humanitarian law, and that Saudi Arabia consistently and regularly uses British weapons to bomb schools, hospitals and civilians is indisputable.

Unfortunately the courts are an instrument of power and control for the 1%, not an impartial resort for justice, so I fear CAAT will not succeed despite the fact their case is undeniably correct.

Part of the British Government’s defence is the close military support it gives to Saudi Arabia, which it claims minimises civilian deaths (it plainly does no such thing). Thousands of children have died in the Yemeni war, most killed by the Saudis and their allies. These war crimes have been documented by the United Nations despite concerted UK and US diplomacy at the UN aimed at downplaying the Saudi crimes. Cluster bombs, white phosphorous and other illegal weapons have frequently been used.

Yemeni dead children very seldom make in into the mainstream media, whereas Syrian children do. But not all Syrian children – those children killed by the jihadist head-choppers the West and its Saudi allies have armed, funded and “advised” do not make the corporate and state media either. Only children allegedly – and the word needs repeating, allegedly – gassed by the Syrian armed forces are apparently worth our attention.

If we really attack because we care about the children, we would be attacking Saudi Arabia to halt its atrocities in Yemen. Instead we are allying with Saudi Arabia – the child killers, UK military support to whom is today being stressed in the High Court – to attack Syria.

Anybody who believes this is anything to do with “humanitarian intervention” is a complete fool.

April 14th • Just Who’s Pulling the Strings?

March 4 2018 Sergei and Yulia Skripal are attacked with a nerve agent in Salisbury

March 6 2018 Boris Johnson blames Russia and calls Russia “a malign force”

March 7 2018 Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia arrives in London for an official visit

March 13 2018 Valeri Gerasimov, Russian Chief of General Staff, states that Russia has intelligence a fake chemical attack is planned against civilians in Syria as a pretext for US bombing of Damascus, and that Russia will respond militarily.

March 19 2018 Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia arrives in Washington for an official visit

April 8 2018 Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia arrives in Paris for an official visit

April 8 2018 Saudi funded jihadist groups Jaysh al Islam and Tahrir al-Sham and UK funded jihadist “rescue group” The White Helmets claim a chemical weapons attack occurred in their enclave of Douma the previous day – just before its agreed handover to the Syrian army – and blame the Syrian government.

April 11 2018 Saudi Arabia pledges support for attack on Syria

April 14 2018 US/UK/French attack on Syria begins.

I have always denied the UK’s claim that only Russia had a motive to attack the Skripals. To denigrate Russia internationally by a false flag attack pinning the blame on Russia, always seemed to me more likely than for the Russians to do that to themselves. And from the start I pointed to the conflict in Syria as a likely motive. That puts Saudi Arabia (and its client jihadists), Saudi Arabia’s close ally Israel, the UK and the USA all in the frame in having a powerful motive in inculcating anti-Russian sentiment prior to planned conflict with Russia in Syria. Any of them could have attacked the Skripals.

Today, Theresa May is claiming -astonishingly – that the UK attack on Syria is “to deter chemical weapons attacks in Syria and the UK”. I don’t think the motive for a Skripal false flag could be more starkly demonstrated.

We do not yet know how many children and other civilians have died so far in what the media always pretend are magically “pinpoint” attacks on Syria. Denying the “collateral damage” is part of the neo-con playbook. The danger is that they will not stop but continue to push, testing how far they can go in weakening Syrian government forces to promote their jihadist allies on the ground, before they spark a real Russian reaction. That way madness lies.

It is also worth noting that the most ardent supporters of this military action, outside Saudi Arabia and Israel, are the Blairites in the UK and the Clinton Democrats in the USA. The self-described “centrists” are actually the unhinged extremists in today’s politics.

This attack on Syria is, beyond doubt, a huge success for the machinations of Mohammed Bin Salman. Please do read my post of 8 March which sets out the background to his agenda, and I believe is essential to why we find our nations in military action again today. Despite the fact the vast majority of the people do not want this

April 15th • The British Government’s Legal Justification for Bombing is Entirely False and Without Merit

Theresa May has issued a long legal justification for UK participation in an attack on a sovereign state. This is so flawed as to be totally worthless. It specifically claims as customary international law practices which are rejected by a large majority of states and therefore cannot be customary international law. It is therefore secondary and of no consequence that the facts and interpretations the argument cites in this particular case are erroneous, but it so happens they are indeed absolutely erroneous.

Let me put before you the government’s legal case in full:

1.This is the Government’s position on the legality of UK military action to alleviate the extreme humanitarian suffering of the Syrian people by degrading the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons capability and deterring their further use, following the chemical weapons attack in Douma on 7 April 2018.

2.The Syrian regime has been killing its own people for seven years. Its use of chemical weapons, which has exacerbated the human suffering, is a serious crime of international concern, as a breach of the customary international law prohibition on the use of chemical weapons, and amounts to a war crime and a crime against humanity.

3.The UK is permitted under international law, on an exceptional basis, to take measures in order to alleviate overwhelming humanitarian suffering. The legal basis for the use of force is humanitarian intervention, which requires three conditions to be met:

(i) there is convincing evidence, generally accepted by the international community as a whole, of extreme humanitarian distress on a large scale, requiring immediate and urgent relief;

(ii) it must be objectively clear that there is no practicable alternative to the use of force if lives are to be saved; and

(iii) the proposed use of force must be necessary and proportionate to the aim of relief of humanitarian suffering and must be strictly limited in time and in scope to this aim (i.e. the minimum necessary to achieve that end and for no other purpose).

4.The UK considers that military action met the requirements of humanitarian intervention in the circumstances of the present case:

(i) The Syrian regime has been using chemical weapons since 2013. The attack in Eastern Damascus on 21 August 2013 left over 800 people dead. The Syrian regime failed to implement its commitment in 2013 to ensure the destruction of its chemical weapons capability. The chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhoun in April 2017 killed approximately 80 people and left hundreds more injured. The recent attack in Douma has killed up to 75 people, and injured over 500 people. Over 400,000 people have now died over the course of the conflict in Syria, the vast majority civilians. Over half of the Syrian population has been displaced, with over 13 million people in need of humanitarian assistance. The repeated, lethal use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime constitutes a war crime and a crime against humanity. On the basis of what we know about the Syrian regime’s pattern of use of chemical weapons to date, it was highly likely that the regime would seek to use chemical weapons again, leading to further suffering and loss of civilian life as well as the continued displacement of the civilian population.

(ii) Actions by the UK and its international partners to alleviate the humanitarian suffering caused by the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime at the UN Security Council have been repeatedly blocked by the regime’s and its allies’ disregard for international norms, including the international law prohibition on the use of chemical weapons. This last week, Russia vetoed yet another resolution in the Security Council, thwarting the establishment of an impartial investigative mechanism. Since 2013, neither diplomatic action, tough sanctions, nor the US strikes against the Shayrat airbase in April 2017 have sufficiently degraded Syrian chemical weapons capability or deterred the Syrian regime from causing extreme humanitarian distress on a large scale through its persistent use of chemical weapons. There was no practicable alternative to the truly exceptional use of force to degrade the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons capability and deter their further use by the Syrian regime in order to alleviate humanitarian suffering.

(iii) In these circumstances, and as an exceptional measure on grounds of overwhelming humanitarian necessity, military intervention to strike carefully considered, specifically identified targets in order effectively to alleviate humanitarian distress by degrading the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons capability and deterring further chemical weapons attacks was necessary and proportionate and therefore legally justifiable. Such an intervention was directed exclusively to averting a humanitarian catastrophe caused by the Syrian regime’s use of chemical weapons, and the action was the minimum judged necessary for that purpose.

14 April 2018

The first thing to note is that this “legal argument” cites no authority. It does not quote the UN Charter, any Security Council Resolution or any international treaty or agreement of any kind which justifies this action. This is because there is absolutely nothing which can be quoted – all the relevant texts say that an attack on another state is illegal without authorisation of the UN Security Council under Chapter VII of the UN Charter.

Nor does the government quote any judgement of the International Court of Justice, International Criminal Court or any other international legal authority. This is important because rather than any treatment, the government makes a specific claim its actions are justified by customary international law, which means accepted state practice. But the existence of such state practice is usually proven through existing court judgements, and there are no judgements that endorse the approach taken by the government in its argument.

The three “tests” set out under para 3 as to what is permitted under international law are not in fact a statement of anything other than the UK’s own position. These “tests” are specifically quoted by Ola Engdahl in Bailliet and Larsen (ed) “Promoting Peace Through International Law” (Oxford University Press 2015). Engdahl notes:

The UK position, that it is permitted to take coercive action under a doctrine of humanitarian intervention when certain conditions are met, is a minority view and does not reflect lex data on the prohibition of the use of force in international relations as expressed in article 2(4) of the UN Charter.

That is undeniably true, and as it is equally undeniably true that a minority view cannot be customary international law, the British government position is utterly devoid of merit.

The Government argument is a classic statement of the doctrine of “liberal intervention”, which is of course the mantra adopted by neo-conservatives over the last 30 years to justify resource grabs. It is not in any way accepted as customary international law. It is a doctrine opposed by a very large number of states, and certainly by the great majority of African, South American and Asian states. (African states have occasionally advocated the idea that UN Security Council authorisation may be replaced by the endorsement of a UN recognised regional authority such as ECOWAS or the African Union. This was the Nigerian position over Liberia 20 years ago. The Security Council authorised ECOWAS action anyway, so no discord arose. The current Nigerian government does not support intervention without security council authorisation).

The examples of “liberal intervention” most commonly used by its advocates are Sierra Leone and Libya. My book “The Catholic Orangemen of Togo” details my experiences as UK Representative at the Sierra Leone peace talks, and I hope will convince you that the accepted story of that war is a lie. Libya too has been a disaster, and it is not a precedent for the government’s legal argument as the western forces employed were operating under cover of a UN Security Council Resolution authorising force, albeit only to enforce a no fly zone.

In fact, if the British government were to offer examples of state practice to attempt to prove that the doctrine it outlines is indeed customary international law, the most appropriate recent examples are Russian military intervention in Ukraine and Georgia. I oppose those Russian interventions as I oppose the UK/US/French actions now. It is not a question of “sides” it is a question of the illegality of military action against other states.

The rest of the government’s argument is entirely hypothetical, because as the liberal intervention doctrine is not customary international law these arguments cannot justify intervention.

But the evidence that Assad used chemical weapons against Douma is non-existent, and the OPCW did not conclude that the Assad government was responsible for the attack on Khan Sheikhoun. There is no evidence whatsoever that military action was urgently required to avert another such “immediate” attack. Nor is it true that the UK’s analysis of the situation is “generally accepted” by the international community, as witness China and Russia voting together in the Security Council yesterday to condemn the attack.

So the British government sets up its own “three tests” which have no legal standing and are entirely a British concoction, yet still manages to fail them.

(Republished from CraigMurray.org.uk by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. ZummaZero says:

    “I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. ”

    Please, why din’t you mention the other possibilities, instead of “the russian one”?

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    Please, why din’t you mention the other possibilities, instead of “the russian one”?
     
    Bit harsh to criticise Craig Murray on that score. I see your point, and it would be a valid point to raise with an establishment journo who has been generally an effective part of the anti-Russia propaganda campaign, but Murray has discussed the other options on many occasions (and been the brunt of some pretty harsh establishment bullying in response).

    In this case, it can safely be regarded as just efficient writing.
    , @Herald
    What Craig Murray is saying is simply fact as relevant to this article. He is not saying that Russia carried out the "alleged" attack but he still keeps an open mind. A very proper approach and tells you why he was a senior diplomat. However, this kind of level-headed thinking seems somewhat redundant in the present age of shoot first and why bother asking questions when you might not like the answers.
    , @Antiwar7
    In Murray's first post on the Skripal story, he lists other possible suspects as Orbis Intelligence (who produced the Steele dossier) and the state of Israel:
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/russian-to-judgement/

    And in the later articles posted here, he writes: "That puts Saudi Arabia (and its client jihadists), Saudi Arabia’s close ally Israel, the UK and the USA all in the frame in having a powerful motive in inculcating anti-Russian sentiment prior to planned conflict with Russia in Syria. Any of them could have attacked the Skripals."
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  2. Precisely what is meant to negate the “why on earth are we entering armed confrontation with a nuclear power” argument, I do not know

    Well, Craig, you could try bringing some heat here:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2018/04/15/what-can-be-known-vs-what-will-be-known/

    ^ It beats singing to the choir …

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  3. ValmMond says:

    I stopped reading at:

    “I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury”

    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven’t identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn’t worth the pixels it’s written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:

    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/

    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like “I’m not fan of Putin/Assad” get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their “arguments” comes with the smell of blood. They’ll mock your “moderate” views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can’t be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

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    I think you are being unfair.

    Mr Murray lost his job because he stood up for the right thing in 2004 and he has been abused ever since. His sanity has been called into question ever since he suggested the British government weren't telling the truth. His brief period in an instiuttion after Blair sacked him has been brought up more than once.

    I suspect Craig's position of apparent open-mindedness has arisen from a lengthy Sky News TV interview with the appalling Kay Burley. He was careful in an eighteen minute segment not to give cause for Burley to label him as a Putin bot. He was most careful not to take the focus off the weakness in the British government's position and I think that was correct.

    As soon as you see the tissue of lies emanating from London the innocence of Moscow follows naturally. Mr Murray was correct not to allow himself to be provoked by Kay Burley and she was visibly annoyed by her failure.

    Sky News tried to bury the confrontation but somebody recorded it and you can find the interview at craigmurray.org

    , @James Brown
    You're right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists "our western partners".
    Putin's best friend and probably his boss, Israel's PM, he's a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I'm not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn't the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?
    , @Zumbuddi
    Agree.

    Resisting lying provocation to war should be done with what ZUSA terms "moral clarity."

    Said another way, No Quarter, No Mercy.

    If the need is felt to characterize Assad, the only things that needs be said are that he is the legitimate leader of a sovereign nation, and that attempts to topple him, by ZUSA & Anglos, are in direct violation of United Nations charter.
    , @Giraffehead
    The link at modern diplomacy doesn't work
    , @oates792
    Right. Just listened to Lord West saying that it makes no sense to him that Assad would gas Douma at this hour. But then, to "balance his remarks" he says that Assad is a 'loathsome individual who has certainly gassed his people in the past', and that 'the Russians lie constantly as a matter of policy.'

    There is a danger in this as the case against Assad begins to unravel, and will unravel. When no WMD were found in Iraq proponents of the invasion said, 'Oh well, the world is better off without the monster Hussein.' When Murray says "I'm not a fan of Putin/Assad ' he is opening the way for the warmongers who invaded Iraq and murdered Hussein, as is Lord West with his comment. If these commentators, without the courage of their convictions, make these enabling judgments they will share responsibility with the warmongers.
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  4. Wally says:

    BREAKING: British-US Toxin, Not Novichok used in Salisbury Attack

    https://principia-scientific.org/breaking-british-us-toxin-not-novichok-used-in-salisbury-attack/

    Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service

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  5. Who pulls the strings ?
    When Hungary prepared democratically laws to stop Soros meddling in Hungary Soros phoned Brussels, spoke to Juncker and Tusk, the next day Timmermans tried to intimidate the Hungarian government.
    Just now there have been Hungarian elections, anti migration and anti Soros Orban was elected.
    European parliament member Sargenti now wants to take Hungary’s voting right in the EU away.
    Sargenti is on the 231 member list that seem to be followers of Soros.
    As Jimmy Carter once said ‘those that want war do not expect that they themselves are going to be hurt’.
    That in the next world war anyone will be more than hurt, killed, the war mongers do not understand, cannot believe.

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    All perfect examples of International Jewry at work. No other group has international connections capable of swaying political decisions made by leaders of nations, world-wide.
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  6. Gordo says:

    Why have you been admitted unconscious to hospital on several occasion?

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  7. Randal says:
    @ZummaZero
    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. "

    Please, why din't you mention the other possibilities, instead of "the russian one"?

    Please, why din’t you mention the other possibilities, instead of “the russian one”?

    Bit harsh to criticise Craig Murray on that score. I see your point, and it would be a valid point to raise with an establishment journo who has been generally an effective part of the anti-Russia propaganda campaign, but Murray has discussed the other options on many occasions (and been the brunt of some pretty harsh establishment bullying in response).

    In this case, it can safely be regarded as just efficient writing.

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  8. Herald says:
    @ZummaZero
    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. "

    Please, why din't you mention the other possibilities, instead of "the russian one"?

    What Craig Murray is saying is simply fact as relevant to this article. He is not saying that Russia carried out the “alleged” attack but he still keeps an open mind. A very proper approach and tells you why he was a senior diplomat. However, this kind of level-headed thinking seems somewhat redundant in the present age of shoot first and why bother asking questions when you might not like the answers.

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  9. Vojkan says:

    Even if Assad did use gas, which he obviously didn’t, who the heck are the Americans, the British, and the French to lecture anyone on morality, given that they unlike Assad did practice chemical warfare, and killed uncounted millions around the globe with “conventional” means in order to loot them, and to “punish” Assad as the bankster with an Oedipus complex Macron put it?

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    Even if Assad did use gas, which he obviously didn’t, who the heck are the Americans, the British, and the French to lecture anyone on morality

    The US generals used agent orange in Vietnam harming millions.

    The US CIA gave Saddam chem weapons to attack Iran.

    The US Jews caused the Iraq war.

    The the US generals, the CIA, and the US Jews, clearly are the enemy of peace.

    Art
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  10. m___ says:

    If one can smell a global “collegiate” of governance, making a renewed effort to stay invisible, infighting, sometimes agreeing, consensus building, experimenting, a capacity of reason, then some of the arguments in the article make sense.

    In the eyes of reason:

    The deeper arguments to such a power structure is global think out of necessity, in occurrence, a Trump(his real whisperer Bannon), and worse because highly effective in the short term, a Putin need to be thought a lesson.

    While they are at it, global elites united needed to test their stealth capabilities: the inept, obtrusive layer of media must be thought a lesson in staying on message. Assange was silenced, Snowden kept silent. Politicians including May and Macron, Haley, Trump were all on orders and scripted. Merkel was given a break, the poor granny has such political tough times, herding the last concerns, German commoners.

    The pot-shots in Syria went scripted. The Russia insiders, as the Chinese, the Washington wing of the collegiate won, on all levels. A “few” days have passed, Putin keeps silent, seems he has learned his lesson, that nationalism as a political tool is for use upon ignorant masses of Russians only, as ignorant as Trumps Americans, alas not to interfere in real world power play.

    The media and scribers of blogs and comments(happily partaking in the circus, since when one has no motives, consider it a work-out, there is no grace in partaking as to the general public, but Patreon), were this time completely clueless, call in the second tier politicians, and there was a real measure of stealthy success.

    To be built upon, hopefully our invisible “governate” will consent on the real issues of this globe and time, if not there is going to be real trouble and chaos.

    On the waiting to explode: population issues(probably the most pressing, the nuclear Islamic breeding wars), resource exhaustion, toxicity, …turns out herding is no longer enough, some serious weeding requiring global timely consent or future humanity is of the charts.

    The most pressing: replace the global economics, the dollar or give it it’s global scope on terms with the global elites. After all a Yuang agreed upon by Russia and China, will run against the same wall, trading wars ditto.

    Some serious infighting behind tin hat curtains needs to be done, but catering to the real is essential or the elites will go the way of the masses. All the real issues need to be addressed timely, thus covert. The Western elites, are on the shortest terms of urgency, again give up your emotional attachments to history, that much for Western, you and your brethren are done as such. Global or not. Do not even think of the military option to keep your economical and financial systems of make believe afloat, a waste of time, alas you know.

    The issue of how the global directorate, is modelled, how they consider the modelling of the commoner, a cage of rats(the Jewish model), or more beehive(Chinese traditional), is for another time if we are let.

    Now when in these coming weeks, chaos, real heavy unscripted chaos erupts that concerns the elites, whether it is trade or military chaos, we retract humbly, till then, till “not so soon”.

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    What in the hell are you trying to say?
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  11. @ValmMond
    I stopped reading at:

    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury"
     
    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven't identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn't worth the pixels it's written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:
    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/
    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like "I'm not fan of Putin/Assad" get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their "arguments" comes with the smell of blood. They'll mock your "moderate" views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can't be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

    I think you are being unfair.

    Mr Murray lost his job because he stood up for the right thing in 2004 and he has been abused ever since. His sanity has been called into question ever since he suggested the British government weren’t telling the truth. His brief period in an instiuttion after Blair sacked him has been brought up more than once.

    I suspect Craig’s position of apparent open-mindedness has arisen from a lengthy Sky News TV interview with the appalling Kay Burley. He was careful in an eighteen minute segment not to give cause for Burley to label him as a Putin bot. He was most careful not to take the focus off the weakness in the British government’s position and I think that was correct.

    As soon as you see the tissue of lies emanating from London the innocence of Moscow follows naturally. Mr Murray was correct not to allow himself to be provoked by Kay Burley and she was visibly annoyed by her failure.

    Sky News tried to bury the confrontation but somebody recorded it and you can find the interview at craigmurray.org

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    To me, his opening line simply reaffirmed that his mind was open, and there's nothing wrong with that!

    I think the poor fellow went from complete naivite to drowning in the deep end real fast. When I listen to him talk, I can still hear a public school boy who feels the world should be fair and balanced and well regulated by benign power structures, just as he was taught. Fair play to him that he learned to swim and carries on to this day!
    , @ValmMond
    The Sky News interview was not confrontational. All Murray said was that he's keeping an "open mind". His position was a textbook example of British understatement.
    I think that Craig Murray is a profoundly honest, reasonable and decent man.
    He's making only one mistake. To assume that one can reason with and appease bullies.
    Bullies are not to be appeased. They have to be exposed, confronted and defeated.
    It takes a certain type of personality. And a lot of guts and practice for the rest of us.
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  12. @ValmMond
    I stopped reading at:

    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury"
     
    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven't identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn't worth the pixels it's written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:
    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/
    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like "I'm not fan of Putin/Assad" get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their "arguments" comes with the smell of blood. They'll mock your "moderate" views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can't be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

    You’re right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists “our western partners”.
    Putin’s best friend and probably his boss, Israel’s PM, he’s a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I’m not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn’t the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?

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    Craig Murray was such a liar that he complained to his bosses in London about the human rights abuses (extreme abuses) in the country he was posted, namely Uzbekistan (one of our allies), and was promptly recalled to London and eventually sacked by Jack Straw and Tony Blair.
    , @James Brown
    Of course Mr Craig Murray is not a liar anymore. He's a decent man.This is the reason why he couldn't work for that well known war criminal: Blair. We should say "thank you" to Mr Murray and not criticize him.
    , @Anonymous

    Putin’s best friend and probably his boss, Israel’s PM, he’s a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.

     

    Do you know of any writers who can shed light on this? I've long been curious of the Putin:Jews dynamic.
    , @annamaria
    Perhaps you are not an 18-year-old yet. Just try to sort out your grievances. When you approach, at least to some degree, the acknowledged honesty and courage of Craig Murray, then you would have some foundations for your statements about his honesty. For now, these your statements are just slanderous accusations.
    Meanwhile, here is an important reporting by a real super-mensch who happened to be a woman:
    "Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down," By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva
    "Porton Down is just one of the Pentagon-funded military laboratories in 25 countries across the world, where the US Army produces and tests man-made viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN convention. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.
    The Pentagon-funded military facilities are not under the direct control of the host state as the US military and civilian personnel is working under diplomatic cover. The local governments are prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the foreign military program running on their own territory."
    -- Next to the Dilyana Gaytandzhieva's courageous and meticulous reporting, the MSM corps of journalists of male persuasion looks like a community of moral eunuchs and intellectually impotent opportunists
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  13. @James Brown
    You're right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists "our western partners".
    Putin's best friend and probably his boss, Israel's PM, he's a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I'm not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn't the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?

    Craig Murray was such a liar that he complained to his bosses in London about the human rights abuses (extreme abuses) in the country he was posted, namely Uzbekistan (one of our allies), and was promptly recalled to London and eventually sacked by Jack Straw and Tony Blair.

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    Being fired by a lunatic like Jack Straw should be a gold star point in one's resume, I would think. Of Blair, I have nothing positive to say on any subject relating to him.
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  14. @James Brown
    You're right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists "our western partners".
    Putin's best friend and probably his boss, Israel's PM, he's a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I'm not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn't the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?

    Of course Mr Craig Murray is not a liar anymore. He’s a decent man.This is the reason why he couldn’t work for that well known war criminal: Blair. We should say “thank you” to Mr Murray and not criticize him.

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  15. My best guess is that Putin and Assad decided to call Trump’s bluff. They believed that Trump would bluff and bluster but wouldn’t dare attack. That blew up in their faces (so to speak!). Trump (or whoever actually had the idea of attacking) has now inflicted two humiliating defeats on Putin. Without even firing a single missile, the US has demonstrated that Putin is irreversibly bogged down in Syria and can only get out if the US capitulates. In addition, Putin is a sitting duck. All he can do is wait and then take whatever the US dishes out to him. Trump’s “missiles maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, maybe never” proves that. Putin didn’t dare launch a pre-emptive strike. Then came the second humiliation: Putin doesn’t dare launch a retaliatory attack. Clearly, he’s scared silly of going one-on-one with the US. Now, he’s the one reduced to bluff and bluster, claiming that he’ll create “chaos” in the world if there are further attacks. In practice, I think, there will never again be a chemical attack in Syria. How that will all play out in regard to Putin’s standing with his elderly Soviet-generation supporters back home will be interesting to watch. Nothing will happen until after the World Cup, but never forget that, in Soviet days, Khrushchev’s backing down to JFK over Cuba was what brought about his downfall. Putin and his pals are Soviet-era dinosaurs. Watch this space.

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    Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing.

    I find your analysis superficial and grimly comical. You are treating this confrontation as if it were a soccer match.
    , @Mike P
    Putin has shown himself to be "weak" and going down any day now, but Trump's "attack" was a show of strength - so he is now firmly in charge? You can't be serious. If anyone has shown weakness, it was Trump. What he really wants is to get out of this madness, but they've got him completely by the balls, and the best he could do was go along but shoot with old ammunition, warn the Russians in advance, and hope that they refrain from retaliation.

    Putin quite simply is smart and disciplined enough to not let himself be provoked into giving the other side a more credible pretext for war than they have contrived so far. Once the real action starts, you will find him quite ready, just like the Iranians. The real confusion quite clearly is within the Empire right now, it is thrashing like a beached whale.
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  16. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tsar Nicholas
    I think you are being unfair.

    Mr Murray lost his job because he stood up for the right thing in 2004 and he has been abused ever since. His sanity has been called into question ever since he suggested the British government weren't telling the truth. His brief period in an instiuttion after Blair sacked him has been brought up more than once.

    I suspect Craig's position of apparent open-mindedness has arisen from a lengthy Sky News TV interview with the appalling Kay Burley. He was careful in an eighteen minute segment not to give cause for Burley to label him as a Putin bot. He was most careful not to take the focus off the weakness in the British government's position and I think that was correct.

    As soon as you see the tissue of lies emanating from London the innocence of Moscow follows naturally. Mr Murray was correct not to allow himself to be provoked by Kay Burley and she was visibly annoyed by her failure.

    Sky News tried to bury the confrontation but somebody recorded it and you can find the interview at craigmurray.org

    To me, his opening line simply reaffirmed that his mind was open, and there’s nothing wrong with that!

    I think the poor fellow went from complete naivite to drowning in the deep end real fast. When I listen to him talk, I can still hear a public school boy who feels the world should be fair and balanced and well regulated by benign power structures, just as he was taught. Fair play to him that he learned to swim and carries on to this day!

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  17. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Brown
    You're right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists "our western partners".
    Putin's best friend and probably his boss, Israel's PM, he's a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I'm not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn't the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?

    Putin’s best friend and probably his boss, Israel’s PM, he’s a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.

    Do you know of any writers who can shed light on this? I’ve long been curious of the Putin:Jews dynamic.

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    Sorry, I don't know any writer that can shed light on this. In fact, most writers in the so called alternative media - even Paul Craig Roberts- seem to believe that Putin/Russia is really an opposition...Putin is interested in Peace...Russians are fighting against the Anglo-Zionists.
    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.
    Putin is the good cop. I used to believe that but now I have some serious doubts.
    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can't they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ? (Israel/The USA, France, The UK...)
    Of course, "experts" in Geo-Politics will always have an answer (excuse)..
    More: if Russia is really fighting against the terrorists in Syria, why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel's PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn't know that ?
    We are told that Putin is a grand-master and he doesn't want to star the 3rd WW. Fair point.
    But is selling weapons to Syria and Iran starting the 3rd WW ?
    Hitler was put in power...Germany was armed and transformed in enemy of the "free world".
    At this moment the soap opera going on on all western and world media, looks more like the old one. Replace Hitler for Putin and Germany for Russia and you get what happened before the second world war...Unless , of course, one believes, what is written in official history books.
    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?
    We know who Put Yeltsin there. And who he did serve.
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  18. @Michael Kenny
    My best guess is that Putin and Assad decided to call Trump’s bluff. They believed that Trump would bluff and bluster but wouldn’t dare attack. That blew up in their faces (so to speak!). Trump (or whoever actually had the idea of attacking) has now inflicted two humiliating defeats on Putin. Without even firing a single missile, the US has demonstrated that Putin is irreversibly bogged down in Syria and can only get out if the US capitulates. In addition, Putin is a sitting duck. All he can do is wait and then take whatever the US dishes out to him. Trump’s “missiles maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, maybe never” proves that. Putin didn’t dare launch a pre-emptive strike. Then came the second humiliation: Putin doesn’t dare launch a retaliatory attack. Clearly, he’s scared silly of going one-on-one with the US. Now, he’s the one reduced to bluff and bluster, claiming that he’ll create “chaos” in the world if there are further attacks. In practice, I think, there will never again be a chemical attack in Syria. How that will all play out in regard to Putin’s standing with his elderly Soviet-generation supporters back home will be interesting to watch. Nothing will happen until after the World Cup, but never forget that, in Soviet days, Khrushchev’s backing down to JFK over Cuba was what brought about his downfall. Putin and his pals are Soviet-era dinosaurs. Watch this space.

    Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing.

    I find your analysis superficial and grimly comical. You are treating this confrontation as if it were a soccer match.

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    “Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing...”

    Wishful thinking Tsar... Putin- at best-has been humiliated and put in his place...or...He’s following his portion of the script, which allows him and his cronies to get their beaks wet at the behest of the AZ mafia.
    , @RobinG
    ".....superficial and grimly comical."

    Michael Kenny, actually, is well exposed trolling hasbaRat.
    , @Vojkan
    The "Putin is a Jewish puppet" line is absurd. Now you may not take my word for it because there are things I cannot backup with hard evidence but would Russia have jailed Khodorkovsky and tried to jail Berezovsky if it was so?
    The truth is Israel has many agents around the globe, has bought or pressured many goyim into compliance, has a Samson option and is mad enough to use nukes even if not existentially threatened because of a feeling of impunity. The cost of striking Israel decisively far exceeds the benefit at the moment and that's the reason the Russians are in damage control mode when dealing with the unholy wart in the ME.
    Things will remain as they are until the Jewish state's behaviour tilts the balance the other way.
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  19. The wars in the Mideast are driven by the Zionists who control the U.S. and Britain and who are hell bent to finish their destruction of the ME that was started by the Israeli attack on the WTC on 911 thus providing the catalyst for the attack on Iraq.

    The supposed chemical attack was another false flag to provide the excuse to attack Syria and Assad had nothing to do with this false flag which was perpetrated by ISIS and was sponsored by the CIA and the MOSSAD and MI6, this is a repeat of the demonization of Saddam Hussein and the weapons of mass destruction lie.

    Read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION to see what the Zionists have done and are doing in their goal of a Zionist NWO.

    Trump is a Zionist puppet who is like the Roman emperor Caligula.

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  20. TT says:

    The ever excellent Campaign Against the Arms Trade is back in the English High Court again today in its continuing attempts to ban arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It is against UK law to sell arms to a country which is likely to use them in breach of international humanitarian law, and that Saudi Arabia consistently and regularly uses British weapons to bomb schools, hospitals and civilians is indisputable.

    Why didn’t the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars, Blair’s Iraq WMD illegal war, Cameron’s illegal Libya bombing, and now May’s illegal attack to Syria.

    Saudi arabia Yemen’s war pale in comparison to UK long history of atrocities. What a British hypocrite law enacted in a kangaroo judicial system? A country of government infested with shameless warmonger liars & paedophiles, yet popularly elected by its people. What a great Anglosaxon-West civilization & glorious demoncrapcy system to be spread around the world for easy subversion & regime change.

    Proven guilty Iraq war criminal Tony Blair is walking free, repeating his same lies again to push for illegal Syria attack. Yet not a single war protest from UK people. Touch a LBGT issue or Trumps visit, British will gone hysteria protest in London, oh…what a great nation. World Capital of paedophiles, war criminals & pathological liars.

    How can God save the Queen that connive criminals, with stolen wealth soaking with innocents blood.

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    but but.....

    Somebody just shows that UK is much more intelligent , hence much more ethical than China !
    hehehehehe

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Where-the-honest-people-are.png

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/do-brighter-minds-incline-to-honesty/
    , @Anonymous

    Why didn’t the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars
     
    UK wasn't involved in Vietnam.
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  21. Mike P says:
    @Michael Kenny
    My best guess is that Putin and Assad decided to call Trump’s bluff. They believed that Trump would bluff and bluster but wouldn’t dare attack. That blew up in their faces (so to speak!). Trump (or whoever actually had the idea of attacking) has now inflicted two humiliating defeats on Putin. Without even firing a single missile, the US has demonstrated that Putin is irreversibly bogged down in Syria and can only get out if the US capitulates. In addition, Putin is a sitting duck. All he can do is wait and then take whatever the US dishes out to him. Trump’s “missiles maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, maybe never” proves that. Putin didn’t dare launch a pre-emptive strike. Then came the second humiliation: Putin doesn’t dare launch a retaliatory attack. Clearly, he’s scared silly of going one-on-one with the US. Now, he’s the one reduced to bluff and bluster, claiming that he’ll create “chaos” in the world if there are further attacks. In practice, I think, there will never again be a chemical attack in Syria. How that will all play out in regard to Putin’s standing with his elderly Soviet-generation supporters back home will be interesting to watch. Nothing will happen until after the World Cup, but never forget that, in Soviet days, Khrushchev’s backing down to JFK over Cuba was what brought about his downfall. Putin and his pals are Soviet-era dinosaurs. Watch this space.

    Putin has shown himself to be “weak” and going down any day now, but Trump’s “attack” was a show of strength – so he is now firmly in charge? You can’t be serious. If anyone has shown weakness, it was Trump. What he really wants is to get out of this madness, but they’ve got him completely by the balls, and the best he could do was go along but shoot with old ammunition, warn the Russians in advance, and hope that they refrain from retaliation.

    Putin quite simply is smart and disciplined enough to not let himself be provoked into giving the other side a more credible pretext for war than they have contrived so far. Once the real action starts, you will find him quite ready, just like the Iranians. The real confusion quite clearly is within the Empire right now, it is thrashing like a beached whale.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    Putin had the ability and every right to smoke whatever platform was delivering cruise missiles. Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform? And what happened

    Crickets.

    The AZ imperialists are now emboldened to wreak havoc unopposed, with an eventual destruction of Iran.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Michael Kenny is an entire cheeseburger short of a Happy Meal. That being said, I agree with what you wrote there. Carry on.
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  22. I appreciated the frame you provided.

    That’s a very serious charge against Great Britain — sadly, I found it a somewhat compelling and disconcerting.

    I suspect that in all of this there are fears that it’s a response to enemies without as opposed to enemies from within. I have no idea where this notion comes from — that states can act as authority for UN missions without the consent of the UN. Great Britain’s press here sounds very much like the legal gymnastic of the US to invade Iraq and has much weight — I agree.

    The chaos in Libya, Syria, the Ukraine is the direct result of US and EU manipulation. I just don’t know how to support “wrongness” on so many levels and consider myself a person of integrity. The humanitarian crisis in all of the regions is exacerbated by our own violations of law and foreign policy best practices.

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  23. Pale hobo says:

    Not a bad article, but superficial. Does not address the why question and the huge ideological difference between Russia and the ‘West’ which leads to war.

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  24. Zumbuddi says:
    @ValmMond
    I stopped reading at:

    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury"
     
    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven't identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn't worth the pixels it's written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:
    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/
    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like "I'm not fan of Putin/Assad" get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their "arguments" comes with the smell of blood. They'll mock your "moderate" views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can't be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

    Agree.

    Resisting lying provocation to war should be done with what ZUSA terms “moral clarity.”

    Said another way, No Quarter, No Mercy.

    If the need is felt to characterize Assad, the only things that needs be said are that he is the legitimate leader of a sovereign nation, and that attempts to topple him, by ZUSA & Anglos, are in direct violation of United Nations charter.

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  25. ValmMond says:
    @Tsar Nicholas
    I think you are being unfair.

    Mr Murray lost his job because he stood up for the right thing in 2004 and he has been abused ever since. His sanity has been called into question ever since he suggested the British government weren't telling the truth. His brief period in an instiuttion after Blair sacked him has been brought up more than once.

    I suspect Craig's position of apparent open-mindedness has arisen from a lengthy Sky News TV interview with the appalling Kay Burley. He was careful in an eighteen minute segment not to give cause for Burley to label him as a Putin bot. He was most careful not to take the focus off the weakness in the British government's position and I think that was correct.

    As soon as you see the tissue of lies emanating from London the innocence of Moscow follows naturally. Mr Murray was correct not to allow himself to be provoked by Kay Burley and she was visibly annoyed by her failure.

    Sky News tried to bury the confrontation but somebody recorded it and you can find the interview at craigmurray.org

    The Sky News interview was not confrontational. All Murray said was that he’s keeping an “open mind”. His position was a textbook example of British understatement.
    I think that Craig Murray is a profoundly honest, reasonable and decent man.
    He’s making only one mistake. To assume that one can reason with and appease bullies.
    Bullies are not to be appeased. They have to be exposed, confronted and defeated.
    It takes a certain type of personality. And a lot of guts and practice for the rest of us.

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  26. denk says:
    @TT

    The ever excellent Campaign Against the Arms Trade is back in the English High Court again today in its continuing attempts to ban arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It is against UK law to sell arms to a country which is likely to use them in breach of international humanitarian law, and that Saudi Arabia consistently and regularly uses British weapons to bomb schools, hospitals and civilians is indisputable.
     
    Why didn't the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars, Blair's Iraq WMD illegal war, Cameron's illegal Libya bombing, and now May's illegal attack to Syria.

    Saudi arabia Yemen's war pale in comparison to UK long history of atrocities. What a British hypocrite law enacted in a kangaroo judicial system? A country of government infested with shameless warmonger liars & paedophiles, yet popularly elected by its people. What a great Anglosaxon-West civilization & glorious demoncrapcy system to be spread around the world for easy subversion & regime change.

    Proven guilty Iraq war criminal Tony Blair is walking free, repeating his same lies again to push for illegal Syria attack. Yet not a single war protest from UK people. Touch a LBGT issue or Trumps visit, British will gone hysteria protest in London, oh…what a great nation. World Capital of paedophiles, war criminals & pathological liars.

    How can God save the Queen that connive criminals, with stolen wealth soaking with innocents blood.

    but but…..

    Somebody just shows that UK is much more intelligent , hence much more ethical than China !
    hehehehehe

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/do-brighter-minds-incline-to-honesty/

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    LOL at this graph. Follow-up multiple choice question: The authors of this study were

    a) Italian
    b) German
    c) Dutch
    d) Tanzanian

    I guess the few not "fully honest" Germans all work at VW.

    , @TT
    That chart is pure BS. If intelligent means more honest, than Jews should top the chart.

    As a Anglophile like you, my experience with English people is generally good, they are bright, honest & well manner compare to other European & murkans. But not their hypocrite lying leaders. Their widespread paedophiles is surprising since they are traditionally more conservative.

    West & US is in a self destruction mode. They are their own biggest enemies, not Russians or Chinese.
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  27. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities.

    And I have never ruled out the word which can not be spoken, that ISRAEL was behind both attacks, to justify getting their US/UK/French lackeys to do in Syria what they can not without taking losses, attacking Syrian cities with cruise missiles.

    Poisoned toothpaste and exploding phones: New book chronicles Israel’s ‘2,700’ assassination operations

    Poisoned toothpaste that takes a month to end its target’s life. Armed drones. Exploding mobile phones. Spare tyres with remote-control bombs. Assassinating enemy scientists and discovering the secret lovers of Muslim clerics.

    A new book chronicles these techniques and asserts that Israel has carried out at least 2,700 assassination operations in its 70 years of existence. While many failed, they add up to far more than any other western country, the book says.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mossad-assassinations-israel-foreign-operations-arafat-book-shin-bet-ronan-bergman-interviews-a8181391.ht

    The main beneficiary of the recent cruise missile attacks against Syria is Israel, so let’s be honest and see what happens.

    From an April 2003 Haaretz article:

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible.

    This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

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    Just remember the Jew are behind ALL the US warring in the ME and ALL the following events you are looking at right now today.

    AIPAC Bristles at Obama's Reminder of Iraq War Lobbying – LobeLog
    https://lobelog.com/aipac-bristles-at-obamas-reminder-of-iraq-war-lobbying/

    Aug 6, 2015 - Jim Moran (D-VA), told Tikkun Magazine that AIPAC. has pushed [the Iraq war] from the beginning. I don't think they represent the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all, but because they are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful—most of them are quite wealthy—they ...

    The Iraq war-- What did AIPAC do and when did it do it? - Mondoweiss
    mondoweiss.net/2012/.../the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do...

    Feb 2, 2012 - Let's skip forward to the Iraq war itself, 2003. In The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, Walt and Mearsheimer clearly show that AIPAC pushed the Iraq war, though quietly. AIPAC usually supports what Israel wants, and Israel certainly wanted the United States to invade Iraq. Nathan Guttman made this ...

    Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support war ...
    mondoweiss.net/2015/03/lobbied-congress-support/

    Mar 12, 2015 - Tempers flared even more, they said, when Frank claimed that Israel and AIPAC had lobbied members of Congress a decade ago to support the war in Iraq. ... Remember that Walt and Mearsheimer were tarred as anti-Semites for saying in 2006 that the Israel lobby pushed the Iraq war.

    Moran Down | The New Republic
    https://newrepublic.com/article/61979/moran-down

    Sep 30, 2007 - He said that AIPAC was in favor of the Iraq war and "pushed this war from the beginning." And he claimed that on the Iraq war, AIPAC didn't represent "the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all." Moran had other things to say--much of it having to do with AIPAC's lobbying on U.S. relations to Iran.

    AIPAC to deploy hundreds of lobbyists to push for Syria action - Haaretz
    https://www.haaretz.com/aipac-pushing-hard-for-syria-action-1.5330700

    Sep 7, 2013 - But they had generally wanted the debate to focus on U.S. national security rather than how a decision to attack Syria might help Israel, a reflection of their sensitivity to being seen as rooting for the United States to go to war. Obama AIPAC - AP - 22.5.11 U.S. President Barack Obama arriving at the AIPAC ...

    Dems slam Moran's tying AIPAC to Iraq war - POLITICO
    https://www.politico.com/story/.../dems-slam-morans-tying-aipac-to-iraq-war-005925

    Sep 19, 2007 - Democrats offended by Jim Moran's statement that Israel lobby group AIPAC "pushed [the Iraq] war."

    AIPAC beats the drums of war - The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/aipac...the...war/.../gIQASVMZtR_story.htmlMar 5,

    2012 - But once inside the hall, the AIPAC attendees heard the sound of war drums. “Iran's nuclear ... Nine years ago this month, there was a similar feeling of inevitability — that despite President George W. Bush's frequent insistence that “war is my last choice,” war in Iraq was coming. Now Israel is moving toward ...

    AIPAC and the Push Toward War - The Atlantic
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/.../aipac...push-toward-war/253358/

    Feb 21, 2012 - The bad news is that, as Kampeas also reports, "AIPAC is expected to make the resolution an 'ask' in three weeks when up to 10,000 activists culminate its ... Greg Thielmann of the Arms Control Association notes that, "Even after crushing Iraq in the first Gulf War, the international coalition only imposed a .....
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  28. Mike P says:
    @denk
    but but.....

    Somebody just shows that UK is much more intelligent , hence much more ethical than China !
    hehehehehe

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Where-the-honest-people-are.png

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/do-brighter-minds-incline-to-honesty/

    LOL at this graph. Follow-up multiple choice question: The authors of this study were

    a) Italian
    b) German
    c) Dutch
    d) Tanzanian

    I guess the few not “fully honest” Germans all work at VW.

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  29. renfro says:
    @Greg Bacon

    I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities.
     
    And I have never ruled out the word which can not be spoken, that ISRAEL was behind both attacks, to justify getting their US/UK/French lackeys to do in Syria what they can not without taking losses, attacking Syrian cities with cruise missiles.

    Poisoned toothpaste and exploding phones: New book chronicles Israel’s ‘2,700’ assassination operations

    Poisoned toothpaste that takes a month to end its target's life. Armed drones. Exploding mobile phones. Spare tyres with remote-control bombs. Assassinating enemy scientists and discovering the secret lovers of Muslim clerics.

    A new book chronicles these techniques and asserts that Israel has carried out at least 2,700 assassination operations in its 70 years of existence. While many failed, they add up to far more than any other western country, the book says.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mossad-assassinations-israel-foreign-operations-arafat-book-shin-bet-ronan-bergman-interviews-a8181391.ht
     
    The main beneficiary of the recent cruise missile attacks against Syria is Israel, so let's be honest and see what happens.

    From an April 2003 Haaretz article:

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible.

    This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.


    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
     

    Just remember the Jew are behind ALL the US warring in the ME and ALL the following events you are looking at right now today.

    AIPAC Bristles at Obama’s Reminder of Iraq War Lobbying – LobeLog

    https://lobelog.com/aipac-bristles-at-obamas-reminder-of-iraq-war-lobbying/

    Aug 6, 2015 – Jim Moran (D-VA), told Tikkun Magazine that AIPAC. has pushed [the Iraq war] from the beginning. I don’t think they represent the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all, but because they are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful—most of them are quite wealthy—they …

    The Iraq war– What did AIPAC do and when did it do it? – Mondoweiss
    mondoweiss.net/2012/…/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do…

    Feb 2, 2012 – Let’s skip forward to the Iraq war itself, 2003. In The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, Walt and Mearsheimer clearly show that AIPAC pushed the Iraq war, though quietly. AIPAC usually supports what Israel wants, and Israel certainly wanted the United States to invade Iraq. Nathan Guttman made this …

    Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support war …
    mondoweiss.net/2015/03/lobbied-congress-support/

    Mar 12, 2015 – Tempers flared even more, they said, when Frank claimed that Israel and AIPAC had lobbied members of Congress a decade ago to support the war in Iraq. … Remember that Walt and Mearsheimer were tarred as anti-Semites for saying in 2006 that the Israel lobby pushed the Iraq war.

    Moran Down | The New Republic

    https://newrepublic.com/article/61979/moran-down

    Sep 30, 2007 – He said that AIPAC was in favor of the Iraq war and “pushed this war from the beginning.” And he claimed that on the Iraq war, AIPAC didn’t represent “the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all.” Moran had other things to say–much of it having to do with AIPAC’s lobbying on U.S. relations to Iran.

    AIPAC to deploy hundreds of lobbyists to push for Syria action – Haaretz

    https://www.haaretz.com/aipac-pushing-hard-for-syria-action-1.5330700

    Sep 7, 2013 – But they had generally wanted the debate to focus on U.S. national security rather than how a decision to attack Syria might help Israel, a reflection of their sensitivity to being seen as rooting for the United States to go to war. Obama AIPAC – AP – 22.5.11 U.S. President Barack Obama arriving at the AIPAC …

    Dems slam Moran’s tying AIPAC to Iraq war – POLITICO

    https://www.politico.com/story/…/dems-slam-morans-tying-aipac-to-iraq-war-005925

    Sep 19, 2007 – Democrats offended by Jim Moran’s statement that Israel lobby group AIPAC “pushed [the Iraq] war.”

    AIPAC beats the drums of war – The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/aipac…the…war/…/gIQASVMZtR_story.htmlMar 5,

    2012 – But once inside the hall, the AIPAC attendees heard the sound of war drums. “Iran’s nuclear … Nine years ago this month, there was a similar feeling of inevitability — that despite President George W. Bush’s frequent insistence that “war is my last choice,” war in Iraq was coming. Now Israel is moving toward …

    AIPAC and the Push Toward War – The Atlantic

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/…/aipac…push-toward-war/253358/

    Feb 21, 2012 – The bad news is that, as Kampeas also reports, “AIPAC is expected to make the resolution an ‘ask’ in three weeks when up to 10,000 activists culminate its … Greg Thielmann of the Arms Control Association notes that, “Even after crushing Iraq in the first Gulf War, the international coalition only imposed a …..

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    Thanks for all of these references..
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  30. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    The technical ability of Porton Down to identify a chemical has never been in doubt, and the only “finding of the United Kingdom”the OPCW has confirmed is the identity of the chemical.

    But what neither the British Government nor the OPCW have, to the present, acknowledged is that blood samples from the Skripal’s contained two nerve agents, A-234, aka Novichok, plus 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate, aka BZ or Buzz.

    Novichok is a convulsant (which acts by preventing the breakdown of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine at the neuromuscular junction, with the result that muscles go into full contraction, hence the symptoms of convulsions, vomiting, etc.), whereas BZ is a paralytic agent (which acts by binding to acetylcholine receptors at the neuromuscular junction without activating them, thereby preventing muscle contraction, hence the symptoms of paralysis and ultimately death by asphyxiation).

    Thus, BZ will serve as an antidote to Novichok poisoning, wheras Novichok will serve as an antidote to BZ poisoning. So the presence of Novichok in the Skipal blood samples is not conclusive evidence that Novichok was the poison, rather than the antidote, as I have discussed here: 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate: The Antidote to Novichok, and here: Novichok: Russia’s Antidote to Seafood Poisoning.

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    Still damned curious how one or the other was immediately available on site to act as an antidote. When was the last time Britain's National Health Service responded to poisoning by a nerve agent? I'm pretty sure no doctor in the UK has ever seen a case of either A-234 or BZ poisoning and hence would have no idea how to identify it. Wouldn't the first thing going through the first responder's mind be 'is this a new kind of spice??'.
    , @Amber Rudd
    The real reason that I had to resign - and why Rex Tillerson was fired - is that we panicked when the Russians discovered our plan to set them up over nerve gas in Syria. We had made some Novichok at Porton Down and delivered it to one of our assets nearby (he was our spy remember). He was to give it to his daughter to smuggle to Syria so that we could stage a gas attack that would be blamed on Syria and Russia. In fact it would be so terrible that the Russians would withdraw from Syria, leaving the Saudi plan of regime change and the Israeli plan of balkanisation of the Middle East on track. Unfortunately the Russians got wind of it and disabled our assets with a different nerve agent BZ and took our Novichok. The reason that I had to resign is that the MI6 handler went down sick and someone thought he had been infected by the Novichok and we let the cat out of the bag. Turned out he wasn’t but by then it was too late. Of course I wasn’t paying attention to any of this as I spend all my time with my brother Roland trying to undermine Brexit. All we could do was claim that the Russians had tried to assassinate their former agent in an incredibly clumsy and obvious way - and hadn’t even succeeded.

    Of course the Russians knew that we knew that they knew, so to speak. They had used a nerve agent in Salisbury, but it was BZ and used to obtain our nerve agent that was part of a regime change plan. So we didn’t attempt to find anyone (no manhunt, no appeal for witnesses etc) and they made references to us making it and warned of a false flag attack in Syria. The UK government still needed an attack on Syria to help the ‘rebels’ so pressured the white helmets to find an opportunity to stage one. Of course there was no ‘Russian’ nerve agent to use so it all went off half cocked as you might say. Trump found out, was furious and sacked Tillerson the same day the Russians warned of a false flag. He then went through the charade of blowing up empty buildings, but Theresa was furious at being exposed and needing to come up with spurious justifications for our pre planned attack. Thus my days were numbered and I lasted as long as it took to cook up a pretext about immigration.
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  31. OAN News reporter, Pearson Sharp on the ground in Damascus

    “Every (Syrian) person I talk to loves Assad. They are not at gunpoint . . . They are going about their lives as best they can.

    . . . But they are tired of living under the Trup — Obama gun; they’re fed up, and . . . they are ready for anything . . .” they will fight if FUKUS continues to attack them.

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    Obama could have attacked the Alawite family dictatorship in Syria on his own authority without asking anyone. He didn't, Under Trump there have been attacks of little materiel significance that haven't done anything to halt the advance of the Assad regieme territory; victories won by Iranian infantry and Russian ground attack planes. The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can't he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?
    , @RobinG
    One America News
    _______DOUMA, SYRIA: "NO EVIDENCE OF CHEMICAL ATTACK"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSXwG-901yU
    OAN Investigation Finds No Evidence of Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria


    "Call your cable provider and kindly demand that One America News is added to your lineup." Good idea!
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  32. @Tsar Nicholas
    Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing.

    I find your analysis superficial and grimly comical. You are treating this confrontation as if it were a soccer match.

    “Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing…”

    Wishful thinking Tsar… Putin- at best-has been humiliated and put in his place…or…He’s following his portion of the script, which allows him and his cronies to get their beaks wet at the behest of the AZ mafia.

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    The Tsar is correct. Why would Putin care about perceived humiliation? This is not a popularity contest. Try to imagine the weight on the shoulders of any individual confronted with such a monumental decision. The entire future of his people and the world depend on him making the right one and at a time of his choosing and to his advantage.

    War is on the menu and is due to be served, it has been deliberately put there by those who have always seen the world as animals do and have always been preparing for or at war. Clearly a confrontation is inevitable, we are currently in the economic and propaganda phase of the next and final war to end all wars, and not in a good way. War is coming and it will result in truly massive numbers of deaths, which is the goal. The aftermath will see an end to any personal liberty, religious freedom and even the very right to exist. Those spared will be seen to have economic or military value and little else. Prayer is unlikely to be of any help other than in creating false hope. If that sounds dire, it is because the situation is dire.
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  33. Sean says:

    If the US wanted to take on Russia it would have done it in the Ukraine. The US could have taken out Assad with one week of air strikes, before the Russian arrived. They didn’t because Syria is not worth it.

    Assad regieme n authorities declared to the relevant international organisation years ago that they had a chemical and bacterial weapons program, and Russia cooperated in the hand over for destruction of all such declared Assad assets .There is a convention against use of chemical weapons and Assad has breached it repeated in the Syrian civil war( that started when he stupidly put up the price of basic necessities) . Anyway he got a second slap on the wrist, and he knows what to do if he wants another one.

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    ** Syria is not worth it. **

    On the contrary, the US appears to be obsessed with Syria. And whatever the true interests of the US are, they are precisely what the elite wish to avoid at all costs.

    Sure Assad used chemical weapons. To achieve no tactical advantage ever and guaranteed to stir up Western liars, manipulators, and bed wetters to his strategic disadvantage. Sure. He's THAT stupid. Let's see now . . . a rational, gentlemanly medical professional used chemical weapons or jihadi terrorist scum used chemical weapons? Whoa. That's a really tough one.

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  34. RobinG says:
    @Tsar Nicholas
    Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing.

    I find your analysis superficial and grimly comical. You are treating this confrontation as if it were a soccer match.

    “…..superficial and grimly comical.”

    Michael Kenny, actually, is well exposed trolling hasbaRat.

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  35. @Anonymous

    Putin’s best friend and probably his boss, Israel’s PM, he’s a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.

     

    Do you know of any writers who can shed light on this? I've long been curious of the Putin:Jews dynamic.

    Sorry, I don’t know any writer that can shed light on this. In fact, most writers in the so called alternative media – even Paul Craig Roberts- seem to believe that Putin/Russia is really an opposition…Putin is interested in Peace…Russians are fighting against the Anglo-Zionists.
    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.
    Putin is the good cop. I used to believe that but now I have some serious doubts.
    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can’t they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ? (Israel/The USA, France, The UK…)
    Of course, “experts” in Geo-Politics will always have an answer (excuse)..
    More: if Russia is really fighting against the terrorists in Syria, why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel’s PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn’t know that ?
    We are told that Putin is a grand-master and he doesn’t want to star the 3rd WW. Fair point.
    But is selling weapons to Syria and Iran starting the 3rd WW ?
    Hitler was put in power…Germany was armed and transformed in enemy of the “free world”.
    At this moment the soap opera going on on all western and world media, looks more like the old one. Replace Hitler for Putin and Germany for Russia and you get what happened before the second world war…Unless , of course, one believes, what is written in official history books.
    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?
    We know who Put Yeltsin there. And who he did serve.

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    So, aside from selling weapons to Syria and Iran - and thus, giving up control over those weapons - what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval? Start WW3?

    Another question: if this is just a staged play of good cop, bad cop - why does the puppet master behind the scenes not advance the plot? Why the need for silly diversions into the bucolic English countryside, and for embarrassing cameos by French boy princes?

    , @Anonymous

    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.
     
    Yes but we shouldn't see conspiracies where their aren't any. We need to find the nanothermite first.

    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can’t they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ?

     

    1. Because then Putin is giving up power to Syria/Iran. Putin likes power.
    2. It may be considered irresponsible behavior to provide freehold first class weapons to potentially unstable countries. This matters in the eyes of countries that matter and don't already hate Russia - China and India - as well as the smaller neighbors of Syria/Iran.

    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?
     
    I understand it was Boris Berezovsky and the oligarchs, who had a clear script for him. But Putin bucked the script, the oligarchs had to flee, and Berezovsky is dead. So these train of facts actually supports the notion of Putin as an independent player, with sole allegiance to the Russian Federation.

    why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel’s PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn’t know that ?
     
    This was my original question and the only one that I can't answer. It could be a case of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'. Christianity seems important to Putin which, if true, should be the bottom line.
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  36. @Mike P
    Putin has shown himself to be "weak" and going down any day now, but Trump's "attack" was a show of strength - so he is now firmly in charge? You can't be serious. If anyone has shown weakness, it was Trump. What he really wants is to get out of this madness, but they've got him completely by the balls, and the best he could do was go along but shoot with old ammunition, warn the Russians in advance, and hope that they refrain from retaliation.

    Putin quite simply is smart and disciplined enough to not let himself be provoked into giving the other side a more credible pretext for war than they have contrived so far. Once the real action starts, you will find him quite ready, just like the Iranians. The real confusion quite clearly is within the Empire right now, it is thrashing like a beached whale.

    Putin had the ability and every right to smoke whatever platform was delivering cruise missiles. Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform? And what happened

    Crickets.

    The AZ imperialists are now emboldened to wreak havoc unopposed, with an eventual destruction of Iran.

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    Not sure where you are from, but some countries - particularly those that have experienced it at home - consider war a serious business, not quite the same as a bar brawl in Dodge City.
    , @ValmMond

    Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform?
     
    Yes, if Russian military assets in Syria are targeted or hit. The US strike was the warfare equivalent of a plate smashing fit thrown by a hysterical tranny. Just a loud demonstration of impotence and fishing for attention. It's better handled unanswered. Now, if the tranny decides to go in a full abuser mode, Putin may seriously mess up her makeup.
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  37. Sean says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    OAN News reporter, Pearson Sharp on the ground in Damascus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=509&v=Oy0p_GL-Mkg

    "Every (Syrian) person I talk to loves Assad. They are not at gunpoint . . . They are going about their lives as best they can.

    . . . But they are tired of living under the Trup -- Obama gun; they're fed up, and . . . they are ready for anything . . ." they will fight if FUKUS continues to attack them.

    Obama could have attacked the Alawite family dictatorship in Syria on his own authority without asking anyone. He didn’t, Under Trump there have been attacks of little materiel significance that haven’t done anything to halt the advance of the Assad regieme territory; victories won by Iranian infantry and Russian ground attack planes. The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can’t he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

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    The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can’t he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?
     
    Why can’t he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

    Because that process is still under Israeli patent protection??
    , @Ace
    There's also an international agreement prohibiting aggressive war. Perhaps you can alert the State Department. Nikki hasn't heard of it either. Alert her too!
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  38. Mike P says:
    @James Brown
    Sorry, I don't know any writer that can shed light on this. In fact, most writers in the so called alternative media - even Paul Craig Roberts- seem to believe that Putin/Russia is really an opposition...Putin is interested in Peace...Russians are fighting against the Anglo-Zionists.
    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.
    Putin is the good cop. I used to believe that but now I have some serious doubts.
    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can't they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ? (Israel/The USA, France, The UK...)
    Of course, "experts" in Geo-Politics will always have an answer (excuse)..
    More: if Russia is really fighting against the terrorists in Syria, why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel's PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn't know that ?
    We are told that Putin is a grand-master and he doesn't want to star the 3rd WW. Fair point.
    But is selling weapons to Syria and Iran starting the 3rd WW ?
    Hitler was put in power...Germany was armed and transformed in enemy of the "free world".
    At this moment the soap opera going on on all western and world media, looks more like the old one. Replace Hitler for Putin and Germany for Russia and you get what happened before the second world war...Unless , of course, one believes, what is written in official history books.
    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?
    We know who Put Yeltsin there. And who he did serve.

    So, aside from selling weapons to Syria and Iran – and thus, giving up control over those weapons – what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval? Start WW3?

    Another question: if this is just a staged play of good cop, bad cop – why does the puppet master behind the scenes not advance the plot? Why the need for silly diversions into the bucolic English countryside, and for embarrassing cameos by French boy princes?

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    what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval?
     
    No need to make it personal, from where I sit it looks like Mr. Putin is "in" on the game. After all-hasn't he also repeatedly stated "no more war on Russian soil?" You can bet that Bolton and Co. are gleeful with their little slap, and are emboldened to keep the pressure on from every angle. It's probably all for show. The KGB agent plutocrat has more in common with our ruling class, and maybe has already been dealt a slice of the global anarcho/tyranny.

    I don't give a damn either way- and don't expect Valery Putin to do my dirty work. This crew in DC doesn't understand anything but violence, can't you see that? The good news is they are degenerate, fat and lazy- there is no good reason why we can't physically depose these amoral crooks.
    , @James Brown
    Putin doesn't need my approval. He has already enough approval from his people and from most readers of the independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think. Independent in sense of being able to think your own thoughts...to doubt. Almost no one has doubts about Putin . I Just have some doubts. That's all.

    Do you really believe that selling weapons to Russian Allies to allow them to protect and defend themselves against the terrorists is " giving up control over those weapons" and thus the main reason why Putin refuses to sell them ?
    If you believe that, sorry, I can't help you.

    I'm not saying it is 100% a staged play but it looks more and more like one. And if history can teach us something maybe what we know of what was done to Germany and the transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a "monster", can, maybe, help us to understand what's going on.
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  39. Dissident says:

    @ Robin G., #34:
    “Michael Kenny, actually, is well exposed trolling hasbaRat.”

    Didn’t you mean to write shilling?

    To troll is to post incendiary content in order to provoke and disrupt merely for one’s own amusement. To shill (or astroturf) is to less-than-honestly promote a particular view point, policy or entity.

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  40. Mike P says:
    @Stonehands
    Putin had the ability and every right to smoke whatever platform was delivering cruise missiles. Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform? And what happened

    Crickets.

    The AZ imperialists are now emboldened to wreak havoc unopposed, with an eventual destruction of Iran.

    Not sure where you are from, but some countries – particularly those that have experienced it at home – consider war a serious business, not quite the same as a bar brawl in Dodge City.

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  41. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Western Media are turning into a Laughing Gas attack.

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  42. paul23 says:

    I keep hearing that the Qatar – Europe pipeline is the source of the Syria War, what I cant understand if their so desperate for this why does it need to go through Syria, theres`s other ways like across SA and up the red sea?

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    The pipeline story is disinformation.
    , @TT
    Look at the map & my comment to utu.

    https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/txu-oclc-192062619-middle_east_pol_2008.jpg

    http://www.unz.com/article/tracing-the-rush-to-war/#comment-2291502

    Israel offshore gas field found near Lebanon probably the biggest cause, together with KSA all interested to supply EU via Syria & Turkey, competing against Russia.

    Undersea pipe laying will be very expensive, still you need Lebanon & Syria permission within their 12km territory & 200km EEZ water. Russia has a navy base along Syria Latakia shore.

    Qatar is so faraway, but it already has link up with Iran pipe network, still possible to pipe via Iran-Iraq-Syria. Not sure why can't go Iran-Turkey border direct, may be some high terrains issue.
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  43. Antiwar7 says:
    @ZummaZero
    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury, amongst other possibilities. "

    Please, why din't you mention the other possibilities, instead of "the russian one"?

    In Murray’s first post on the Skripal story, he lists other possible suspects as Orbis Intelligence (who produced the Steele dossier) and the state of Israel:

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/russian-to-judgement/

    And in the later articles posted here, he writes: “That puts Saudi Arabia (and its client jihadists), Saudi Arabia’s close ally Israel, the UK and the USA all in the frame in having a powerful motive in inculcating anti-Russian sentiment prior to planned conflict with Russia in Syria. Any of them could have attacked the Skripals.”

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  44. @Sean
    Obama could have attacked the Alawite family dictatorship in Syria on his own authority without asking anyone. He didn't, Under Trump there have been attacks of little materiel significance that haven't done anything to halt the advance of the Assad regieme territory; victories won by Iranian infantry and Russian ground attack planes. The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can't he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

    The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can’t he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

    Why can’t he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

    Because that process is still under Israeli patent protection??

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  45. @m___
    If one can smell a global "collegiate" of governance, making a renewed effort to stay invisible, infighting, sometimes agreeing, consensus building, experimenting, a capacity of reason, then some of the arguments in the article make sense.

    In the eyes of reason:

    The deeper arguments to such a power structure is global think out of necessity, in occurrence, a Trump(his real whisperer Bannon), and worse because highly effective in the short term, a Putin need to be thought a lesson.

    While they are at it, global elites united needed to test their stealth capabilities: the inept, obtrusive layer of media must be thought a lesson in staying on message. Assange was silenced, Snowden kept silent. Politicians including May and Macron, Haley, Trump were all on orders and scripted. Merkel was given a break, the poor granny has such political tough times, herding the last concerns, German commoners.

    The pot-shots in Syria went scripted. The Russia insiders, as the Chinese, the Washington wing of the collegiate won, on all levels. A "few" days have passed, Putin keeps silent, seems he has learned his lesson, that nationalism as a political tool is for use upon ignorant masses of Russians only, as ignorant as Trumps Americans, alas not to interfere in real world power play.

    The media and scribers of blogs and comments(happily partaking in the circus, since when one has no motives, consider it a work-out, there is no grace in partaking as to the general public, but Patreon), were this time completely clueless, call in the second tier politicians, and there was a real measure of stealthy success.

    To be built upon, hopefully our invisible "governate" will consent on the real issues of this globe and time, if not there is going to be real trouble and chaos.

    On the waiting to explode: population issues(probably the most pressing, the nuclear Islamic breeding wars), resource exhaustion, toxicity, ...turns out herding is no longer enough, some serious weeding requiring global timely consent or future humanity is of the charts.

    The most pressing: replace the global economics, the dollar or give it it's global scope on terms with the global elites. After all a Yuang agreed upon by Russia and China, will run against the same wall, trading wars ditto.

    Some serious infighting behind tin hat curtains needs to be done, but catering to the real is essential or the elites will go the way of the masses. All the real issues need to be addressed timely, thus covert. The Western elites, are on the shortest terms of urgency, again give up your emotional attachments to history, that much for Western, you and your brethren are done as such. Global or not. Do not even think of the military option to keep your economical and financial systems of make believe afloat, a waste of time, alas you know.

    The issue of how the global directorate, is modelled, how they consider the modelling of the commoner, a cage of rats(the Jewish model), or more beehive(Chinese traditional), is for another time if we are let.

    Now when in these coming weeks, chaos, real heavy unscripted chaos erupts that concerns the elites, whether it is trade or military chaos, we retract humbly, till then, till "not so soon".

    What in the hell are you trying to say?

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  46. @Tsar Nicholas
    Craig Murray was such a liar that he complained to his bosses in London about the human rights abuses (extreme abuses) in the country he was posted, namely Uzbekistan (one of our allies), and was promptly recalled to London and eventually sacked by Jack Straw and Tony Blair.

    Being fired by a lunatic like Jack Straw should be a gold star point in one’s resume, I would think. Of Blair, I have nothing positive to say on any subject relating to him.

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  47. ValmMond says:
    @Stonehands
    Putin had the ability and every right to smoke whatever platform was delivering cruise missiles. Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform? And what happened

    Crickets.

    The AZ imperialists are now emboldened to wreak havoc unopposed, with an eventual destruction of Iran.

    Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform?

    Yes, if Russian military assets in Syria are targeted or hit. The US strike was the warfare equivalent of a plate smashing fit thrown by a hysterical tranny. Just a loud demonstration of impotence and fishing for attention. It’s better handled unanswered. Now, if the tranny decides to go in a full abuser mode, Putin may seriously mess up her makeup.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaAKH1Kaddo
    , @TT
    In high profile declaration to the world, Russia chief general drawn a red line: "appropriate action will be taken against projectiles & its launchers if Russian & its allies come under attack." He then met up with US & Turkey army general.

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning. Putin & his chief general never make a fart, only RT proudly declared no retaliation to US assets but will shoot down missiles. Greenlight given to bomb.

    Now emboldened US even bring in its poodles UK & Fr to smash up Syria infront Putin's face, humiliating Russia infront the world. Again not a fart from Putin & his chief general, besides some ranting in UN & embassies.

    Now that Russia allies Syrian & Iranians had been attacked openly, where are the action on launchers? If Putin can't live up to his word, don't push his chief general out to become a laughing stock.

    Russian latest vow now come from some ambassodors, no more general: we will retaliate if Russia soldiers come under attack, no more mention "launchers" & "ally". What a sign of weakness to the West bully.

    Macron: " i had persuaded Trumps to stay permanently in Syria which he agreed."
    Trumps & May: " Our mission completed, we will bombed again as we like, depends on Assad performance."
    Nikki Harley in UN: "Russia never can be our friend, we will slap as we like."

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don't slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.
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  48. @Mike P
    Putin has shown himself to be "weak" and going down any day now, but Trump's "attack" was a show of strength - so he is now firmly in charge? You can't be serious. If anyone has shown weakness, it was Trump. What he really wants is to get out of this madness, but they've got him completely by the balls, and the best he could do was go along but shoot with old ammunition, warn the Russians in advance, and hope that they refrain from retaliation.

    Putin quite simply is smart and disciplined enough to not let himself be provoked into giving the other side a more credible pretext for war than they have contrived so far. Once the real action starts, you will find him quite ready, just like the Iranians. The real confusion quite clearly is within the Empire right now, it is thrashing like a beached whale.

    Michael Kenny is an entire cheeseburger short of a Happy Meal. That being said, I agree with what you wrote there. Carry on.

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  49. utu says:
    @paul23
    I keep hearing that the Qatar - Europe pipeline is the source of the Syria War, what I cant understand if their so desperate for this why does it need to go through Syria, theres`s other ways like across SA and up the red sea?

    The pipeline story is disinformation.

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    Disinformation by who? Pls share.

    Russian sources had reported, also in Globalresearch & independent sites.

    Qatar joint venture with Iran on its new found huge offshore gas field against KSA warning of its competition of supplying gas through Syria for EU. So KSA orchestrated sanction on Qatar with Gulf states.

    Israel has stolen a offshore gas field newly found, which will also be piped to EU via Syria, the shortest & cheapest land way. Also you can't lay underwater pipeline along Syria coast (12km) without permission.

    Assad refused the deal on unequal term, choose to partner with Iran gas instead to supply EU. Punishment start, like Gaddafi & Saddam, west ally turn dictator.

    Facing Iran's new pipeline competition, Putin refused to deliver paid arms to SAA fighting terrorists, but intervene after been promised the new pipe projects from both Assad & Iran. Putin announced it(Iran) will not jeopardize Russia new pipelines to EU since Russia will be building Qatar & Iran new pipelines. (RT).

    Recent news: New oil & gas field is found in Syria, as huge as Iraq's. All hands are in cookies jug.

    Why West, KSA & Gulfs, Israel, Turkey, Russia & Iran become so interested in resource poor Syria that still need to import oil before war? Go after who benefit from the war.
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  50. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    OAN News reporter, Pearson Sharp on the ground in Damascus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=509&v=Oy0p_GL-Mkg

    "Every (Syrian) person I talk to loves Assad. They are not at gunpoint . . . They are going about their lives as best they can.

    . . . But they are tired of living under the Trup -- Obama gun; they're fed up, and . . . they are ready for anything . . ." they will fight if FUKUS continues to attack them.

    One America News
    _______DOUMA, SYRIA: “NO EVIDENCE OF CHEMICAL ATTACK”

    OAN Investigation Finds No Evidence of Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria

    “Call your cable provider and kindly demand that One America News is added to your lineup.” Good idea!

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  51. Art says:
    @Vojkan
    Even if Assad did use gas, which he obviously didn't, who the heck are the Americans, the British, and the French to lecture anyone on morality, given that they unlike Assad did practice chemical warfare, and killed uncounted millions around the globe with "conventional" means in order to loot them, and to "punish" Assad as the bankster with an Oedipus complex Macron put it?

    Even if Assad did use gas, which he obviously didn’t, who the heck are the Americans, the British, and the French to lecture anyone on morality

    The US generals used agent orange in Vietnam harming millions.

    The US CIA gave Saddam chem weapons to attack Iran.

    The US Jews caused the Iraq war.

    The the US generals, the CIA, and the US Jews, clearly are the enemy of peace.

    Art

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    Exactly, Art.

    Take a look at this, for example:
    Ten Years Later, U.S. Has Left Iraq With Mass Displacement & Epidemic of Birth Defects, Cancers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNi_1pbSqGY
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  52. @jilles dykstra
    Who pulls the strings ?
    When Hungary prepared democratically laws to stop Soros meddling in Hungary Soros phoned Brussels, spoke to Juncker and Tusk, the next day Timmermans tried to intimidate the Hungarian government.
    Just now there have been Hungarian elections, anti migration and anti Soros Orban was elected.
    European parliament member Sargenti now wants to take Hungary's voting right in the EU away.
    Sargenti is on the 231 member list that seem to be followers of Soros.
    As Jimmy Carter once said 'those that want war do not expect that they themselves are going to be hurt'.
    That in the next world war anyone will be more than hurt, killed, the war mongers do not understand, cannot believe.

    All perfect examples of International Jewry at work. No other group has international connections capable of swaying political decisions made by leaders of nations, world-wide.

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  53. @ValmMond

    Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform?
     
    Yes, if Russian military assets in Syria are targeted or hit. The US strike was the warfare equivalent of a plate smashing fit thrown by a hysterical tranny. Just a loud demonstration of impotence and fishing for attention. It's better handled unanswered. Now, if the tranny decides to go in a full abuser mode, Putin may seriously mess up her makeup.

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  54. TT says:
    @denk
    but but.....

    Somebody just shows that UK is much more intelligent , hence much more ethical than China !
    hehehehehe

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Where-the-honest-people-are.png

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/do-brighter-minds-incline-to-honesty/

    That chart is pure BS. If intelligent means more honest, than Jews should top the chart.

    As a Anglophile like you, my experience with English people is generally good, they are bright, honest & well manner compare to other European & murkans. But not their hypocrite lying leaders. Their widespread paedophiles is surprising since they are traditionally more conservative.

    West & US is in a self destruction mode. They are their own biggest enemies, not Russians or Chinese.

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    I was once an anglophile,
    But over the years I've come to realise that fukusIndia have been an existential threat to China the Chinese race ever since the Opium war.

    History speaks for itself...

    Opium war,
    Eight nations alliance,
    Covert war in Tibet 1959,
    Proxy war by India, 1962, [aka 'Chinese invasion of India']
    Proxy war by TW, since 1949,
    Covert war in Tibet 2008 [aka 'genocide in Tibet]
    Covert war in Xinjiang 2009 [aka 'genocide in Xinjiang]
    Proxy war by Jp IN ECS since 2012
    Proxy war by Ph etc in SCS since 2013 [aka 'China the bully in SCS']
    Proxy war by India since 2005
    BIowar via sars, bird flu....
    Trade war 2018
    Covert war 1989 [aka 'TAM massacre']
    Covert war via terrorism/regime change in Africa, Afpak, SEA.....
    GENOCIDE IN INDONESIA, 1965, 1998

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do 'honest, decent, ' people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese

    Bomb them back to stone ages
    [fukusI fav sports]

    This is how the anglos remember the Opium war...
    We and our jawans whacked 20k chinks in the Opium war alone !
    [how brave, rifles, cannons vs arrows and bows]

    No apology, No regret, no remorse,

    Guess what , the bandits are crying out robbery ,...again...

    China is an existential threat to the 'rule based' international order,
    , meaning the five lies and their Indian sepoys , aka fukusIndia !
     
    hehehehhe

    West & US is in a self destruction mode.
     
    If only its true...
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  55. @Stonehands
    “Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing...”

    Wishful thinking Tsar... Putin- at best-has been humiliated and put in his place...or...He’s following his portion of the script, which allows him and his cronies to get their beaks wet at the behest of the AZ mafia.

    The Tsar is correct. Why would Putin care about perceived humiliation? This is not a popularity contest. Try to imagine the weight on the shoulders of any individual confronted with such a monumental decision. The entire future of his people and the world depend on him making the right one and at a time of his choosing and to his advantage.

    War is on the menu and is due to be served, it has been deliberately put there by those who have always seen the world as animals do and have always been preparing for or at war. Clearly a confrontation is inevitable, we are currently in the economic and propaganda phase of the next and final war to end all wars, and not in a good way. War is coming and it will result in truly massive numbers of deaths, which is the goal. The aftermath will see an end to any personal liberty, religious freedom and even the very right to exist. Those spared will be seen to have economic or military value and little else. Prayer is unlikely to be of any help other than in creating false hope. If that sounds dire, it is because the situation is dire.

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  56. TT says:
    @ValmMond

    Didn’t he and various generals plainly state that retaliation would be swift and immediately delivered to any such platform?
     
    Yes, if Russian military assets in Syria are targeted or hit. The US strike was the warfare equivalent of a plate smashing fit thrown by a hysterical tranny. Just a loud demonstration of impotence and fishing for attention. It's better handled unanswered. Now, if the tranny decides to go in a full abuser mode, Putin may seriously mess up her makeup.

    In high profile declaration to the world, Russia chief general drawn a red line: “appropriate action will be taken against projectiles & its launchers if Russian & its allies come under attack.” He then met up with US & Turkey army general.

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning. Putin & his chief general never make a fart, only RT proudly declared no retaliation to US assets but will shoot down missiles. Greenlight given to bomb.

    Now emboldened US even bring in its poodles UK & Fr to smash up Syria infront Putin’s face, humiliating Russia infront the world. Again not a fart from Putin & his chief general, besides some ranting in UN & embassies.

    Now that Russia allies Syrian & Iranians had been attacked openly, where are the action on launchers? If Putin can’t live up to his word, don’t push his chief general out to become a laughing stock.

    Russian latest vow now come from some ambassodors, no more general: we will retaliate if Russia soldiers come under attack, no more mention “launchers” & “ally”. What a sign of weakness to the West bully.

    Macron: ” i had persuaded Trumps to stay permanently in Syria which he agreed.”
    Trumps & May: ” Our mission completed, we will bombed again as we like, depends on Assad performance.”
    Nikki Harley in UN: “Russia never can be our friend, we will slap as we like.”

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don’t slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.

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    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don’t slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.
     
    Hahahaha. Brilliant quote. May I ask, what is your native tongue? And is this a saying in your native language or are you just a particularly colourful orator?
    , @L.K
    You are a bit full of shit, you know that, tt?

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.
     
    Pompeo is an obvious fucking liar, or maybe you are dumb enough to believe 200 Russians were KIA in Deir Ezzor.
    A small number of Russian contractors were killed... by "Iranians", you mean Iranian backed Syrian & I think some Iraqi militiamen. Some SAA were also killed... yes, it was a Zamerican aggression but there have been others before, including in support of ISIS against the besieged SAA garrison defending Deir Ezzor city. Now, Deir Ezzor city has been cleared of ISIS and under Syrian control.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning.
     
    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The 'many' Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.

    As for the new aggression from FUKUS, it did little damage & most missiles were shot down by Syrian AD. Even the ZUK based propaganda outlet SOHR has stated that Syrian AD shot down 65 or more missiles.
    It appears the Russians were also warned by the ZUSA and they, in turn, warned the Syrians.
    So far, not even one fatality has been confirmed.

    This was more of a PR stunt by FUKUS.

    The real risk is that this aggression, based on a false flag chemical attack, as ineffective as it was, almost guarantees that there will be more in the future, when Syria moves to finish off the remaining Takfiri Jihadists in Idlib and a few other pockets.
    , @ValmMond
    Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It's 1/8 of the Earth's inhabited land area. It's bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what's best for Russia - present and future.
    He doesn't pay much attention to the squeaks and yelping of ramdom empire's domestics and lapdogs.
    By all means, let's all take note of what that hideous Punjabi untouchable Nimrata "Nikki" Randhawa has to say. Or Macron, who 20 years ago married his mother.
    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.
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  57. No offence chum but I’d bet that you wouldn’t repeat a single word of that to any Russian’s face. You probably mean well but goading Russia in this way is what teen schoolgirls do when they are testing their girlpower and want a sign from a schoolboy that he cares about them. It’s just not helpful.

    History tells us that there’s a price to pay when you fcuk with Russia, a big one. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, remember? Cheers

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    , @TT
    Yes i agreed Russkies are the toughest fighter race not to mess with in history. But put some leaders like Yeltsin or Gorbachev will do much wonder. Putin is making all his abacus calculation, gawd know what he is up to.

    Look at how Merkel is screwing up her own people with rapefuges, an equivalent if not more mighty fighter race.

    Im not goading Russia into fight, but Putin's strategy of appeasement is backfired in every occasion because West simply won't accept a strong independent Russia to challenge their hedgmon. Be subjugated & get rape or be destroyed.

    PCR put it very well: "West will never accept Russian as equal white partner". Nikki Haley said it more blantly: "Russia can never be our friend, we will slap as we want."

    Putin is slowly losing hope & awaken to reality, like a broken heart girl been ditched by her most beloved man that simply hate her, giving her thousand cuts to bleed death. And she hated the forced marriage to the non white China man she so despised.

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.

    But history tell us a ditched woman is most dangerous when love turn hatred. Time will tell when petrol yuan grind the evil empire down, what a embittered Russian woman will avenge with her million cuts.
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  58. So the three new war criminals are still free and not arrested, prosecuted and put behind the bars yet? The leaders of the west or the emperors are naked and desperate and have no where to go in the eyes of the other 6 billion people living outside of the western world!!

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  59. TT says:
    @utu
    The pipeline story is disinformation.

    Disinformation by who? Pls share.

    Russian sources had reported, also in Globalresearch & independent sites.

    Qatar joint venture with Iran on its new found huge offshore gas field against KSA warning of its competition of supplying gas through Syria for EU. So KSA orchestrated sanction on Qatar with Gulf states.

    Israel has stolen a offshore gas field newly found, which will also be piped to EU via Syria, the shortest & cheapest land way. Also you can’t lay underwater pipeline along Syria coast (12km) without permission.

    Assad refused the deal on unequal term, choose to partner with Iran gas instead to supply EU. Punishment start, like Gaddafi & Saddam, west ally turn dictator.

    Facing Iran’s new pipeline competition, Putin refused to deliver paid arms to SAA fighting terrorists, but intervene after been promised the new pipe projects from both Assad & Iran. Putin announced it(Iran) will not jeopardize Russia new pipelines to EU since Russia will be building Qatar & Iran new pipelines. (RT).

    Recent news: New oil & gas field is found in Syria, as huge as Iraq’s. All hands are in cookies jug.

    Why West, KSA & Gulfs, Israel, Turkey, Russia & Iran become so interested in resource poor Syria that still need to import oil before war? Go after who benefit from the war.

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    Causes of wars in ME:

    3rd tier: the ostensive cause - weapons of mass destruction, bringing democracy, saving women and children. etc. This you can read in the MSM.

    2nd tier: hidden causes for those who think that they are more savvy - pipelines, oil, banking, gold, MIC profits, etc.

    1st tier: the mother of all causes - implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans for the future of Israel which in first stage is to destabilize and destroy functioning semi-secular Arab/Muslim states by turning them in Hobbesian chaos where sectarian and ethnic faction can be made to fight each other.

    Most people are satisfied with the 3rd tier explanation. More savvy ones will accept the 2nd tier explanations which is for both the supporters and opponents of the war. These are suppose to be the true causes. They are liked by leftist opponents of the war because they are of material/profit nature but also but some oilmen from Texas who believe that war is good for profit. Some the 3nd tier causes can be a motivators but they are not true causes. All conspiracy theorists suppose to be stuck on this level so they never go to the true cause at the 1st tier. Most people will never get to the 1st tier because they are too decent to imagine this kind of evil possible.

    Two comments I wrote related to the subject:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/avigdor-lieberman-hey-donald-lets-you-and-vlad-fight/#comment-2283171

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/there-is-no-inner-party-obama-let-his-18-year-old-daughter-intern-for-harvey-weinstein/#comment-2108768
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  60. @Mike P
    So, aside from selling weapons to Syria and Iran - and thus, giving up control over those weapons - what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval? Start WW3?

    Another question: if this is just a staged play of good cop, bad cop - why does the puppet master behind the scenes not advance the plot? Why the need for silly diversions into the bucolic English countryside, and for embarrassing cameos by French boy princes?

    what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval?

    No need to make it personal, from where I sit it looks like Mr. Putin is “in” on the game. After all-hasn’t he also repeatedly stated “no more war on Russian soil?” You can bet that Bolton and Co. are gleeful with their little slap, and are emboldened to keep the pressure on from every angle. It’s probably all for show. The KGB agent plutocrat has more in common with our ruling class, and maybe has already been dealt a slice of the global anarcho/tyranny.

    I don’t give a damn either way- and don’t expect Valery Putin to do my dirty work. This crew in DC doesn’t understand anything but violence, can’t you see that? The good news is they are degenerate, fat and lazy- there is no good reason why we can’t physically depose these amoral crooks.

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  61. L.K says:
    @Art
    Even if Assad did use gas, which he obviously didn’t, who the heck are the Americans, the British, and the French to lecture anyone on morality

    The US generals used agent orange in Vietnam harming millions.

    The US CIA gave Saddam chem weapons to attack Iran.

    The US Jews caused the Iraq war.

    The the US generals, the CIA, and the US Jews, clearly are the enemy of peace.

    Art

    Exactly, Art.

    Take a look at this, for example:
    Ten Years Later, U.S. Has Left Iraq With Mass Displacement & Epidemic of Birth Defects, Cancers

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  62. TT says:
    @paul23
    I keep hearing that the Qatar - Europe pipeline is the source of the Syria War, what I cant understand if their so desperate for this why does it need to go through Syria, theres`s other ways like across SA and up the red sea?

    Look at the map & my comment to utu.

    http://www.unz.com/article/tracing-the-rush-to-war/#comment-2291502

    Israel offshore gas field found near Lebanon probably the biggest cause, together with KSA all interested to supply EU via Syria & Turkey, competing against Russia.

    Undersea pipe laying will be very expensive, still you need Lebanon & Syria permission within their 12km territory & 200km EEZ water. Russia has a navy base along Syria Latakia shore.

    Qatar is so faraway, but it already has link up with Iran pipe network, still possible to pipe via Iran-Iraq-Syria. Not sure why can’t go Iran-Turkey border direct, may be some high terrains issue.

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    Nope.

    The real reason is Israel's desire to break up neighboring countries into small, powerless statelets that cannot stand up to it.

    As for Syria, as wiki cables reveal, the plan has an israeli origin, going back at least to their defeat at the hands of Hezbollah in 2006.

    As CIA veteran Ray McGovern has stated, the major reason for the ZUSA role in Syria is Israel, and that is, as he explained, due to the fact that Syria has been for a long time the major weapons resupply to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    Israel likes to shoot unarmed Palestinian kids, not fight a well armed and skilled force of hard men, such as Hezbollah.
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  63. @Mike P
    So, aside from selling weapons to Syria and Iran - and thus, giving up control over those weapons - what exactly should Putin have done to continue receiving your approval? Start WW3?

    Another question: if this is just a staged play of good cop, bad cop - why does the puppet master behind the scenes not advance the plot? Why the need for silly diversions into the bucolic English countryside, and for embarrassing cameos by French boy princes?

    Putin doesn’t need my approval. He has already enough approval from his people and from most readers of the independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think. Independent in sense of being able to think your own thoughts…to doubt. Almost no one has doubts about Putin . I Just have some doubts. That’s all.

    Do you really believe that selling weapons to Russian Allies to allow them to protect and defend themselves against the terrorists is ” giving up control over those weapons” and thus the main reason why Putin refuses to sell them ?
    If you believe that, sorry, I can’t help you.

    I’m not saying it is 100% a staged play but it looks more and more like one. And if history can teach us something maybe what we know of what was done to Germany and the transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a “monster”, can, maybe, help us to understand what’s going on.

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    “...transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a “monster”, can, maybe, help us to understand what’s going on.”

    Is that the dummy who kicked out the Frankfurt School AND the Jew bankers?

    Lookin’ better everyday commie bastards!
    , @Mike P

    ... independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think.
     
    Oh I'm sure there are plenty of people and agencies trying (and succeeding) to manipulate the independent media. The value of these media is not that everything you read is true and objective, but that they provide a refuge for freedom of speech.

    I do happen to think that retaining control is a sufficient reason for Putin to not distribute the newest Russian weapons systems freely - particularly in Syria, where a) trained operators don't exist b) they could easily fall into the wrong hands in the still ongoing turmoil. There may be other, stronger reasons - I'd be happy to consider such, but "sorry I can't help you" doesn't qualify.

    Regarding the staged play - the fireworks were all for domestic consumption in the West, and Putin understands this. He is not going to endanger his real prize of having won in Syria by trying to look strong for an audience of brainwashed zombies and thereby escalating the war. Any triumphant noises emanating from D.C. are occasioned by the humiliation of Trump, not of Putin.
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  64. @TT
    In high profile declaration to the world, Russia chief general drawn a red line: "appropriate action will be taken against projectiles & its launchers if Russian & its allies come under attack." He then met up with US & Turkey army general.

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning. Putin & his chief general never make a fart, only RT proudly declared no retaliation to US assets but will shoot down missiles. Greenlight given to bomb.

    Now emboldened US even bring in its poodles UK & Fr to smash up Syria infront Putin's face, humiliating Russia infront the world. Again not a fart from Putin & his chief general, besides some ranting in UN & embassies.

    Now that Russia allies Syrian & Iranians had been attacked openly, where are the action on launchers? If Putin can't live up to his word, don't push his chief general out to become a laughing stock.

    Russian latest vow now come from some ambassodors, no more general: we will retaliate if Russia soldiers come under attack, no more mention "launchers" & "ally". What a sign of weakness to the West bully.

    Macron: " i had persuaded Trumps to stay permanently in Syria which he agreed."
    Trumps & May: " Our mission completed, we will bombed again as we like, depends on Assad performance."
    Nikki Harley in UN: "Russia never can be our friend, we will slap as we like."

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don't slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don’t slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.

    Hahahaha. Brilliant quote. May I ask, what is your native tongue? And is this a saying in your native language or are you just a particularly colourful orator?

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    No it wasn't any quote in my native tongue, it will be more vulgar. Lol. Juz too pissed off by Putin inaction & self-inflicted humiliation.

    1Mar show was great to stunt those lunatics, but Russia was called bluff by little Israel bit*h soon for not shooting down the 2 F16 attacking T4, and last night again.

    If China & much weaker NK & Iran could scare off FUKUS & Israel, what make Russia so afraid to tit-for-tat to nip the bud by slapping the bitch? Now its been cornered by own inaction, Russia can only either escalate big or continue to be humiliated which bad for peace.
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  65. utu says:
    @TT
    Disinformation by who? Pls share.

    Russian sources had reported, also in Globalresearch & independent sites.

    Qatar joint venture with Iran on its new found huge offshore gas field against KSA warning of its competition of supplying gas through Syria for EU. So KSA orchestrated sanction on Qatar with Gulf states.

    Israel has stolen a offshore gas field newly found, which will also be piped to EU via Syria, the shortest & cheapest land way. Also you can't lay underwater pipeline along Syria coast (12km) without permission.

    Assad refused the deal on unequal term, choose to partner with Iran gas instead to supply EU. Punishment start, like Gaddafi & Saddam, west ally turn dictator.

    Facing Iran's new pipeline competition, Putin refused to deliver paid arms to SAA fighting terrorists, but intervene after been promised the new pipe projects from both Assad & Iran. Putin announced it(Iran) will not jeopardize Russia new pipelines to EU since Russia will be building Qatar & Iran new pipelines. (RT).

    Recent news: New oil & gas field is found in Syria, as huge as Iraq's. All hands are in cookies jug.

    Why West, KSA & Gulfs, Israel, Turkey, Russia & Iran become so interested in resource poor Syria that still need to import oil before war? Go after who benefit from the war.

    Causes of wars in ME:

    3rd tier: the ostensive cause – weapons of mass destruction, bringing democracy, saving women and children. etc. This you can read in the MSM.

    2nd tier: hidden causes for those who think that they are more savvy – pipelines, oil, banking, gold, MIC profits, etc.

    1st tier: the mother of all causes – implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans for the future of Israel which in first stage is to destabilize and destroy functioning semi-secular Arab/Muslim states by turning them in Hobbesian chaos where sectarian and ethnic faction can be made to fight each other.

    Most people are satisfied with the 3rd tier explanation. More savvy ones will accept the 2nd tier explanations which is for both the supporters and opponents of the war. These are suppose to be the true causes. They are liked by leftist opponents of the war because they are of material/profit nature but also but some oilmen from Texas who believe that war is good for profit. Some the 3nd tier causes can be a motivators but they are not true causes. All conspiracy theorists suppose to be stuck on this level so they never go to the true cause at the 1st tier. Most people will never get to the 1st tier because they are too decent to imagine this kind of evil possible.

    Two comments I wrote related to the subject:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/avigdor-lieberman-hey-donald-lets-you-and-vlad-fight/#comment-2283171

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/there-is-no-inner-party-obama-let-his-18-year-old-daughter-intern-for-harvey-weinstein/#comment-2108768

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    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...
    , @TT
    Well said.

    3rd tier is pure BS for drones. Many of my country ignorant folks believed all West msm lies that our gov quietly allowed to swamp our news.

    2nd tier, still hold becos that's what Israelis are motivating Fukus to die for their Yinon plan. Those who control oil, control the world. Once ME taken, fukus Israel will go after Iran & Venezuela, the rest are already in control. Only Russia is left, which FUKUS will crack their hardest nuts by hydrolic-incremental sanction & embargo to completely isolate her.

    1st tier, yes the root of ME crisis. Anglozionist-USM already decided to invade 7 countries in 5yrs. Iran is the last in list, biggest nut to crack.

    My jewish friend told me cynically - remove Israel & all will be peaceful. I thot why not US took all jews in to build their Great Kingdom with $5T, a cheaper solution since Zionist already rule US.
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  66. L.K says:
    @TT
    In high profile declaration to the world, Russia chief general drawn a red line: "appropriate action will be taken against projectiles & its launchers if Russian & its allies come under attack." He then met up with US & Turkey army general.

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning. Putin & his chief general never make a fart, only RT proudly declared no retaliation to US assets but will shoot down missiles. Greenlight given to bomb.

    Now emboldened US even bring in its poodles UK & Fr to smash up Syria infront Putin's face, humiliating Russia infront the world. Again not a fart from Putin & his chief general, besides some ranting in UN & embassies.

    Now that Russia allies Syrian & Iranians had been attacked openly, where are the action on launchers? If Putin can't live up to his word, don't push his chief general out to become a laughing stock.

    Russian latest vow now come from some ambassodors, no more general: we will retaliate if Russia soldiers come under attack, no more mention "launchers" & "ally". What a sign of weakness to the West bully.

    Macron: " i had persuaded Trumps to stay permanently in Syria which he agreed."
    Trumps & May: " Our mission completed, we will bombed again as we like, depends on Assad performance."
    Nikki Harley in UN: "Russia never can be our friend, we will slap as we like."

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don't slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.

    You are a bit full of shit, you know that, tt?

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Pompeo is an obvious fucking liar, or maybe you are dumb enough to believe 200 Russians were KIA in Deir Ezzor.
    A small number of Russian contractors were killed… by “Iranians”, you mean Iranian backed Syrian & I think some Iraqi militiamen. Some SAA were also killed… yes, it was a Zamerican aggression but there have been others before, including in support of ISIS against the besieged SAA garrison defending Deir Ezzor city. Now, Deir Ezzor city has been cleared of ISIS and under Syrian control.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning.

    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The ‘many’ Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.

    As for the new aggression from FUKUS, it did little damage & most missiles were shot down by Syrian AD. Even the ZUK based propaganda outlet SOHR has stated that Syrian AD shot down 65 or more missiles.
    It appears the Russians were also warned by the ZUSA and they, in turn, warned the Syrians.
    So far, not even one fatality has been confirmed.

    This was more of a PR stunt by FUKUS.

    The real risk is that this aggression, based on a false flag chemical attack, as ineffective as it was, almost guarantees that there will be more in the future, when Syria moves to finish off the remaining Takfiri Jihadists in Idlib and a few other pockets.

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    L. K. you are so fond of calling anyone speaking against Russia or Putin as BS regardless if they make sense. May be you are Russian or zealous russophile.

    But we are keyboard warriors, so we speak our mind & be realistic. Call a spade as spade, no need PC or lick anyone boot. Ron won't reward us anything for telling sweet word.

    I haven't received a single cent from China, Russia, NK, Venezuela, Myanmar, Iran, Cuba, Spore, India, etc. that i defended. You can be assured too.

    What make Russia and war hardened SAA, Iran & Hezbollah dare not touch US bases & its embedded terrorists? Massive retaliation to be expected.

    Similarly when FUKUS Israel touch Russian(merc or uniform) and its allies, they must pay the price, at least equiped with manpad to bring down some birds or let SAA fired its S200 but spare the pilot life.

    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The ‘many’ Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.
     
    What can Israel do if Russia allow SAA & Iran to bring down more F15s like previous, strike back their airfield? That will serve best warning to FUKUS without escalating to direct confrontation. Nip the bud.

    After T4 tactical strike, Israel strike again right after FUKUS pounding, but with open threat this time for endless attack. Fukus will strike again when last ISIS Iblib city is surrounded. See that, the bitch is now scratching your car & demand freedom to burn your house after plate smashing. Next she will snip your manhood organ, very powerful PR stunt you will say, but no turning back.

    Israeli defense minister claims
    right of 'total freedom of
    action' in Syrian airspace

    https://www.rt.com/news/424336-lieberman-syria-action-freedom/

    Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that's what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you.
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  67. Ron Unz says:
    @utu
    Causes of wars in ME:

    3rd tier: the ostensive cause - weapons of mass destruction, bringing democracy, saving women and children. etc. This you can read in the MSM.

    2nd tier: hidden causes for those who think that they are more savvy - pipelines, oil, banking, gold, MIC profits, etc.

    1st tier: the mother of all causes - implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans for the future of Israel which in first stage is to destabilize and destroy functioning semi-secular Arab/Muslim states by turning them in Hobbesian chaos where sectarian and ethnic faction can be made to fight each other.

    Most people are satisfied with the 3rd tier explanation. More savvy ones will accept the 2nd tier explanations which is for both the supporters and opponents of the war. These are suppose to be the true causes. They are liked by leftist opponents of the war because they are of material/profit nature but also but some oilmen from Texas who believe that war is good for profit. Some the 3nd tier causes can be a motivators but they are not true causes. All conspiracy theorists suppose to be stuck on this level so they never go to the true cause at the 1st tier. Most people will never get to the 1st tier because they are too decent to imagine this kind of evil possible.

    Two comments I wrote related to the subject:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/avigdor-lieberman-hey-donald-lets-you-and-vlad-fight/#comment-2283171

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/there-is-no-inner-party-obama-let-his-18-year-old-daughter-intern-for-harvey-weinstein/#comment-2108768

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the “Bulgarians” have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they’ve decided it’s safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism…

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    While I knew this was about Bulgaria it took me several years to figure out what actually Bulgaria wanted because I could not fathom the depth of evil involved. I understood that Bulgarian wanted to expand its borders at expense of Greece, Macedonia and Serbia but I thought they would like to come to a peaceful solution afterwards with these countries and them being functional, secular and relatively prosperous would be conducive to peace. I did not realize that they desired the utter destruction and turning the countries to Hobbesian chaos and that they did not care whatsoever what happens to the people living in these countries. I did not realize that they were following the biblical operation manual of destruction.
    , @Ivan
    The Indian Army is distinguished by its loyalty to its officer corps. The British were the officers, the Indians were the sepoys. No surprise then why countless Indians fought in WW I. But then service WW I was universally regarded as a test of manhood. Even tiny NZ suffered casualties in the 50,000 range.

    When the question of reintegrating the INA the small army led by SC Bose, who threw his lot with the Axis powers came up after the end of WWII, the then army commanders (and soldiers lower down the ranks) in what was already independent India, would have none of it since they - the soldiers of the INA - had committed the unforgivable crime of betraying their (British) officers.
    , @Vojkan
    Actually, the origin of the dispute between Serbia and Bulgaria is rather simple and I'm going to get my fellow Serbs at me for what I am about to write. During the wars to finally kick out the Ottomans, Serbia had an agreement on Macedonia with Bulgaria on which she reneged, which started a short war she won allied with Greece, and has always since looked down at her Eastern neighbour and looked with loving eyes at her Western ones. So the position in which Serbia found herself today is pretty as much her fault as that of the West.
    , @edNels
    these are a good outline of it:

    utu says:
    April 17, 2018 at 3:23 am GMT • 300 Words
    @TT


    Causes of wars in ME:
    3rd tier: the ostensive cause – weapons of mass destruct in the MSM.
    2nd tier: hidden causes - oil,
    1st tier: the mother of all causes – implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans
    ________________
     
    Ron Unz says:
    April 17, 2018 at 3:53 am GMT • 200 Words
    @utu

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct.

    thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe

    For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life
     
    But the old saying of a Soldier was: ''Not for I to Question Why, But to do or Die!''
    The idea of soldiers needing any rational or pretext, etc. is wrong. The soldier as the army he's in, willingly or not, drafted or enlisted, and from where on earth from, are of little consequence, because once in, old saying: ''You're in the Army Now…" takes over, and if soldiers have opinions or anything, they better can it, because they are to do as told, if not it is in line with military discipline to be shot!

    Propoganda for the purpose to ''bolster ''Moral' '' is for the Taxpayers and old folks at home… or the Consumers and useless Feeders that pay the bills, and complain 24/7 at the coffee shops, over the back yard fences and etc. They must be Bull shitted but not the soldiers, who will do just fine, doing what they must.

    As to going around the world to die for causes, here's a video about Galipolli that has some good photography,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T02jCA4Zxgc

    I can't find the one I want about Gallipoli which was real good, but this one shows promise, mentioning at 6: +/- this particular issue of morale. and the propaganda mismatch to reality in that event.
    Propaganda makes a conducive matrix from which there will flow enough willing recruits, if the numbers are needed, but when conscription is forced, then not needed, the soldiers are forced and just pray to see home again, some get turned and see it as a career, leading to other careers, maybe the biggest employer ever, and propaganda is effective, in the field other realities.
    , @CanSpeccy

    hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough.
     
    Not exactly.

    For example in a WW1 ‘Appeal for Enlistment’ leaflet, Mohandas Gandhi wrote:


    To bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them... If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible dispatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army.’ For Gandhi, ‘Home Rule without military power was useless, and this was the best opportunity to get it’. An India ‘trained for fighting will be able to wrest freedom in a moment’, and with the strength gained on the battlefield ‘even fight the Empire, should it play foul with us.
     
    , @RobinG
    Hello Ron,

    Please consider republishing this Jonathan Cook article on Syria. Thank you for your courage.

    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-04-17/fisk-report-syria-air-strikes/
    17 April 2018, Fisk rips away excuses for air strike on Syria
    , @Anonymous

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do....The only oddity is that since the “Bulgarians” have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they’ve decided it’s safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.
     
    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries. The Obama administration's negotiation of the Iran nuclear deal greatly angered Netanyahu, and the extensive US bombing campaign against ISIS has been a huge boon to the exhausted and over-stretched forces of the Assad government.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East---Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq---since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel. Afghanistan and Libya are distant from Israel, and posed no threat to its security. The US invasion of Iraq predictably massively increased Iranian influence in the Middle East by removing Hussein's regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.

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  68. L.K says:
    @TT
    Look at the map & my comment to utu.

    https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/txu-oclc-192062619-middle_east_pol_2008.jpg

    http://www.unz.com/article/tracing-the-rush-to-war/#comment-2291502

    Israel offshore gas field found near Lebanon probably the biggest cause, together with KSA all interested to supply EU via Syria & Turkey, competing against Russia.

    Undersea pipe laying will be very expensive, still you need Lebanon & Syria permission within their 12km territory & 200km EEZ water. Russia has a navy base along Syria Latakia shore.

    Qatar is so faraway, but it already has link up with Iran pipe network, still possible to pipe via Iran-Iraq-Syria. Not sure why can't go Iran-Turkey border direct, may be some high terrains issue.

    Nope.

    The real reason is Israel’s desire to break up neighboring countries into small, powerless statelets that cannot stand up to it.

    As for Syria, as wiki cables reveal, the plan has an israeli origin, going back at least to their defeat at the hands of Hezbollah in 2006.

    As CIA veteran Ray McGovern has stated, the major reason for the ZUSA role in Syria is Israel, and that is, as he explained, due to the fact that Syria has been for a long time the major weapons resupply to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    Israel likes to shoot unarmed Palestinian kids, not fight a well armed and skilled force of hard men, such as Hezbollah.

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  69. utu says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    While I knew this was about Bulgaria it took me several years to figure out what actually Bulgaria wanted because I could not fathom the depth of evil involved. I understood that Bulgarian wanted to expand its borders at expense of Greece, Macedonia and Serbia but I thought they would like to come to a peaceful solution afterwards with these countries and them being functional, secular and relatively prosperous would be conducive to peace. I did not realize that they desired the utter destruction and turning the countries to Hobbesian chaos and that they did not care whatsoever what happens to the people living in these countries. I did not realize that they were following the biblical operation manual of destruction.

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  70. Ivan says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    The Indian Army is distinguished by its loyalty to its officer corps. The British were the officers, the Indians were the sepoys. No surprise then why countless Indians fought in WW I. But then service WW I was universally regarded as a test of manhood. Even tiny NZ suffered casualties in the 50,000 range.

    When the question of reintegrating the INA the small army led by SC Bose, who threw his lot with the Axis powers came up after the end of WWII, the then army commanders (and soldiers lower down the ranks) in what was already independent India, would have none of it since they – the soldiers of the INA – had committed the unforgivable crime of betraying their (British) officers.

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    tsk tsk tsk.....
    Confession from the Indians of their undying love for Pax
    Britannica....
    Like I always say, Once a sepoy, always a sepoy.

    For that unflinching loyalty, the Indians were richly rewarded with a big chunk of Sino property from their anglo masters, the so-called Northeast, where the land belongs to mother indian, but the inhabitants dont.
    To tame these 'chinki faced terrorists', the Indians were also gifted the AFSPA 'anti insurgency' law, literally a license to kill and rape in...[1]

    THE TIBET THAT NO ANGLOS AND INDIANS WANNA TALK ABOUT....


    While the country seems to heave a sigh of relief on the promulgation of an ordinance amending rape Law in India, people do not seem to be aware of the rape by The Indian Army, especially in the North East.

    Hiding behind Army’s impunity ans specially under AFSPA(Armed Forces Special Powers Act), the army never discloses authentic statistics and action take on these rape case, despite vociferous protests from the north East.

    security forces often rape women in Jammu & Kashmir and Manipur by talking the advantage of the draconian Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act (AFSPA). “Despite being well aware of the problem, the government is not doing anything to repeal AFSPA from the conflict ridden States. In the name of crushing Maoist movement, the government is planning to enforce AFSPA in Chattisgarh,”

    https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/rape-by-indian-army-hides-behind-afspa-amend/


    [1]
    chinki faced terrorists, easy prey for the jawans from the Indian heartland....
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ec9f52f7328afabf30794e819d8ccec2-c
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  71. @NoseytheDuke
    No offence chum but I'd bet that you wouldn't repeat a single word of that to any Russian's face. You probably mean well but goading Russia in this way is what teen schoolgirls do when they are testing their girlpower and want a sign from a schoolboy that he cares about them. It's just not helpful.

    History tells us that there's a price to pay when you fcuk with Russia, a big one. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, remember? Cheers

    Comment intended for TT

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  72. utu says:

    Israel tries to escalate:

    Reports in Syria: Missiles Fired at Two Military Bases Intercepted; Pentagon Denies Involvement

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/syrian-state-tv-says-missile-attack-on-air-base-thwarted-1.6009200

    Are Russians going to do anything?

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  73. ValmMond says:
    @TT
    In high profile declaration to the world, Russia chief general drawn a red line: "appropriate action will be taken against projectiles & its launchers if Russian & its allies come under attack." He then met up with US & Turkey army general.

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning. Putin & his chief general never make a fart, only RT proudly declared no retaliation to US assets but will shoot down missiles. Greenlight given to bomb.

    Now emboldened US even bring in its poodles UK & Fr to smash up Syria infront Putin's face, humiliating Russia infront the world. Again not a fart from Putin & his chief general, besides some ranting in UN & embassies.

    Now that Russia allies Syrian & Iranians had been attacked openly, where are the action on launchers? If Putin can't live up to his word, don't push his chief general out to become a laughing stock.

    Russian latest vow now come from some ambassodors, no more general: we will retaliate if Russia soldiers come under attack, no more mention "launchers" & "ally". What a sign of weakness to the West bully.

    Macron: " i had persuaded Trumps to stay permanently in Syria which he agreed."
    Trumps & May: " Our mission completed, we will bombed again as we like, depends on Assad performance."
    Nikki Harley in UN: "Russia never can be our friend, we will slap as we like."

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don't slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.

    Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It’s 1/8 of the Earth’s inhabited land area. It’s bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what’s best for Russia – present and future.
    He doesn’t pay much attention to the squeaks and yelping of ramdom empire’s domestics and lapdogs.
    By all means, let’s all take note of what that hideous Punjabi untouchable Nimrata “Nikki” Randhawa has to say. Or Macron, who 20 years ago married his mother.
    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.

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    I would have tried to put it more politely since TT doesn't seem to be a bad person, but that's it.
    What better evidence that Russia's course so far is spot on than reality on the ground and Western hysterics due to their impotence before that reality?
    , @TT

    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It’s 1/8 of the Earth’s inhabited land area. It’s bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what’s best for Russia – present and future
     
    .

    So, im placing my last hope on Russia & China with a few last few brave countries like NK, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba to resist the satans from destroying the world.

    By been called bluff unnecessary, Putin self inflicted with Fukus & Israel attacked & humiliation repeatedly. That will spiral out of control when Israel tried harder. I will give you a scenario for not nip the bud.

    During next FUKUS attack, Israel submarine sinks some US vessels and strikes US bases. Mistaken as Russia retaliation (intentionally or ignorant), US strikes back at Russian bases for PR stunt to save face. There it spiral into full confrontation, or Russia surrended by withdrawing to lick wounds. Then Putin's partners push all the way to her doorstep(already now).

    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.
     
    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs. What shit do you know about war fare kid?

    Study what the Chinese, NK & Iranian real war ready generals did in psy-warfare against FUKUS, they always make FUKUS withdraw foolishly. These Western tender asses aren't willing to die in tens of thousands for their unjustified aggression.

    Im very sure Russia has plenty of good strategists, war proven great Generals, but Putin make them impotent.

    Look at the chief general, a boyish man with no war experience & credential(?), probably put there to safeguard Putin's power, unlike other generals(the one killed in Syria precision mortar) simply look fearsome to enemies, he is commander of Chechnya & Donbass war Putin put incharged.

    In 2005, i remembered watching how a Chinese most hawkish BG Zhu Chenghu 朱成虎incharged of 2nd Artillery(nuke) warned off US when hawkish Bush team tried to push for a conventional war over Taiwan to block China rise after Deng XP death. Unlike war harden Mao, Deng & their old guards, China Prez Jiang/Hu was too frighten to handle.

    That BG fierce look simply awed enemies, declared so manly: "China will never fight a losing conventional war with US, be ready to exchange hundreds of cities. China will strike first in a month time, get prepare." The world leaders gone frenzy, Bush back down, case closed. China remained peaceful for next 10years.

    My family & myself were so impressed and felt relief that China still has such great general to resist the evil West, as Jiang era was utter corrupted that most generals buy their way up. They mostly look like my country generals, fat greedy nerds.

    Scared Chinese leaders punished the general to appease Bush & US Congress demanding his dismiss. But Prez Xi is different, a descendant from military family with his father a war proven General, he confronted US in SCS crisis last year. BG Zhu is likely to get Prez Xi recognition.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Chenghu

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/16/china.jonathanwatts

    http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/realities-chinas-no-first-use-policy/

    At a press briefing in Beijing in July 2005, Major General Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China's National Defense University (NDU), reportedly threatened the use of nuclear weapons against the United States in the context of a Sino-U.S. military conflict over Taiwan.
     
    It seemed all English articles & news appeared to be very different from 2005 Asia & Chinese news, without mention of his portfolio as 2nd artillery(nuke) commander & his direct 1st strike nuke challenge to US. There are probably some PR by China & West to tone down the clash & scrubbing work. Also can't find his 2005 picture when he warned US. He mellowed much to chubby old man now after losing his power.

    When enemies threat is imminent, great warrior look bravely into enemies eyes and ready to fight fearlessly to defend. That make invading enemies very cautious of the high price to pay. That's warfare. Idiot. You are not fighter race Russian obviously.
    , @Stonehands
    “Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish....”

    “Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only...”

    TT plainly restated the facts as the Russians themselves delivered them in the week leading up to the missile attack, your vituperations notwithstanding...
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  74. @James Brown
    Putin doesn't need my approval. He has already enough approval from his people and from most readers of the independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think. Independent in sense of being able to think your own thoughts...to doubt. Almost no one has doubts about Putin . I Just have some doubts. That's all.

    Do you really believe that selling weapons to Russian Allies to allow them to protect and defend themselves against the terrorists is " giving up control over those weapons" and thus the main reason why Putin refuses to sell them ?
    If you believe that, sorry, I can't help you.

    I'm not saying it is 100% a staged play but it looks more and more like one. And if history can teach us something maybe what we know of what was done to Germany and the transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a "monster", can, maybe, help us to understand what's going on.

    “…transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a “monster”, can, maybe, help us to understand what’s going on.”

    Is that the dummy who kicked out the Frankfurt School AND the Jew bankers?

    Lookin’ better everyday commie bastards!

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  75. Vojkan says:
    @Tsar Nicholas
    Or it may be that Putin is mindful of the risk to the entire human species and will take steps at a time of his own choosing.

    I find your analysis superficial and grimly comical. You are treating this confrontation as if it were a soccer match.

    The “Putin is a Jewish puppet” line is absurd. Now you may not take my word for it because there are things I cannot backup with hard evidence but would Russia have jailed Khodorkovsky and tried to jail Berezovsky if it was so?
    The truth is Israel has many agents around the globe, has bought or pressured many goyim into compliance, has a Samson option and is mad enough to use nukes even if not existentially threatened because of a feeling of impunity. The cost of striking Israel decisively far exceeds the benefit at the moment and that’s the reason the Russians are in damage control mode when dealing with the unholy wart in the ME.
    Things will remain as they are until the Jewish state’s behaviour tilts the balance the other way.

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    Some good news on the home front.
    Yesterday, 30 pro-Palestinian-rights Jewish Americans with If Not Now demanded that Sen. Cardin condemn Israel's violence toward peacefully protesting Gazans.
    The way out of this doomsday spiral is that Israel fairly peacefully implodes, a la USSR.
    It could happen. 2021.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/jewish-activists-storm-senator-s-office-as-lawmakers-sound-off-on-gaza-1.6008583
    Jewish Activists Storm Senator's Office as Lawmakers Sound Off on Israel's Conduct at Gaza Border
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  76. Vojkan says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    Actually, the origin of the dispute between Serbia and Bulgaria is rather simple and I’m going to get my fellow Serbs at me for what I am about to write. During the wars to finally kick out the Ottomans, Serbia had an agreement on Macedonia with Bulgaria on which she reneged, which started a short war she won allied with Greece, and has always since looked down at her Eastern neighbour and looked with loving eyes at her Western ones. So the position in which Serbia found herself today is pretty as much her fault as that of the West.

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  77. Ram says:

    ” according to the independent Swiss state Spiez lab, the substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, which was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states. ”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-14/independent-swiss-lab-says-bz-toxin-used-skripal-poisoning-usuk-produced-not

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  78. edNels says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    these are a good outline of it:

    utu says:
    April 17, 2018 at 3:23 am GMT • 300 Words

    Causes of wars in ME:
    3rd tier: the ostensive cause – weapons of mass destruct in the MSM.
    2nd tier: hidden causes – oil,
    1st tier: the mother of all causes – implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans
    ________________

    Ron Unz says:
    April 17, 2018 at 3:53 am GMT • 200 Words

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct.

    thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe

    For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life

    But the old saying of a Soldier was: ”Not for I to Question Why, But to do or Die!”
    The idea of soldiers needing any rational or pretext, etc. is wrong. The soldier as the army he’s in, willingly or not, drafted or enlisted, and from where on earth from, are of little consequence, because once in, old saying: ”You’re in the Army Now…” takes over, and if soldiers have opinions or anything, they better can it, because they are to do as told, if not it is in line with military discipline to be shot!

    Propoganda for the purpose to ”bolster ”Moral’ ” is for the Taxpayers and old folks at home… or the Consumers and useless Feeders that pay the bills, and complain 24/7 at the coffee shops, over the back yard fences and etc. They must be Bull shitted but not the soldiers, who will do just fine, doing what they must.

    As to going around the world to die for causes, here’s a video about Galipolli that has some good photography,

    I can’t find the one I want about Gallipoli which was real good, but this one shows promise, mentioning at 6: +/- this particular issue of morale. and the propaganda mismatch to reality in that event.
    Propaganda makes a conducive matrix from which there will flow enough willing recruits, if the numbers are needed, but when conscription is forced, then not needed, the soldiers are forced and just pray to see home again, some get turned and see it as a career, leading to other careers, maybe the biggest employer ever, and propaganda is effective, in the field other realities.

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  79. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @TT

    The ever excellent Campaign Against the Arms Trade is back in the English High Court again today in its continuing attempts to ban arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It is against UK law to sell arms to a country which is likely to use them in breach of international humanitarian law, and that Saudi Arabia consistently and regularly uses British weapons to bomb schools, hospitals and civilians is indisputable.
     
    Why didn't the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars, Blair's Iraq WMD illegal war, Cameron's illegal Libya bombing, and now May's illegal attack to Syria.

    Saudi arabia Yemen's war pale in comparison to UK long history of atrocities. What a British hypocrite law enacted in a kangaroo judicial system? A country of government infested with shameless warmonger liars & paedophiles, yet popularly elected by its people. What a great Anglosaxon-West civilization & glorious demoncrapcy system to be spread around the world for easy subversion & regime change.

    Proven guilty Iraq war criminal Tony Blair is walking free, repeating his same lies again to push for illegal Syria attack. Yet not a single war protest from UK people. Touch a LBGT issue or Trumps visit, British will gone hysteria protest in London, oh…what a great nation. World Capital of paedophiles, war criminals & pathological liars.

    How can God save the Queen that connive criminals, with stolen wealth soaking with innocents blood.

    Why didn’t the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars

    UK wasn’t involved in Vietnam.

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    Thks for pointing out. Sometimes UK=US in my mind, same evils like mother like son, since both ruled by same Anglozionist.
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  80. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The technical ability of Porton Down to identify a chemical has never been in doubt, and the only “finding of the United Kingdom”the OPCW has confirmed is the identity of the chemical.
     
    But what neither the British Government nor the OPCW have, to the present, acknowledged is that blood samples from the Skripal's contained two nerve agents, A-234, aka Novichok, plus 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate, aka BZ or Buzz.

    Novichok is a convulsant (which acts by preventing the breakdown of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine at the neuromuscular junction, with the result that muscles go into full contraction, hence the symptoms of convulsions, vomiting, etc.), whereas BZ is a paralytic agent (which acts by binding to acetylcholine receptors at the neuromuscular junction without activating them, thereby preventing muscle contraction, hence the symptoms of paralysis and ultimately death by asphyxiation).

    Thus, BZ will serve as an antidote to Novichok poisoning, wheras Novichok will serve as an antidote to BZ poisoning. So the presence of Novichok in the Skipal blood samples is not conclusive evidence that Novichok was the poison, rather than the antidote, as I have discussed here: 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate: The Antidote to Novichok, and here: Novichok: Russia's Antidote to Seafood Poisoning.

    Still damned curious how one or the other was immediately available on site to act as an antidote. When was the last time Britain’s National Health Service responded to poisoning by a nerve agent? I’m pretty sure no doctor in the UK has ever seen a case of either A-234 or BZ poisoning and hence would have no idea how to identify it. Wouldn’t the first thing going through the first responder’s mind be ‘is this a new kind of spice??’.

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  81. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Brown
    Sorry, I don't know any writer that can shed light on this. In fact, most writers in the so called alternative media - even Paul Craig Roberts- seem to believe that Putin/Russia is really an opposition...Putin is interested in Peace...Russians are fighting against the Anglo-Zionists.
    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.
    Putin is the good cop. I used to believe that but now I have some serious doubts.
    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can't they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ? (Israel/The USA, France, The UK...)
    Of course, "experts" in Geo-Politics will always have an answer (excuse)..
    More: if Russia is really fighting against the terrorists in Syria, why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel's PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn't know that ?
    We are told that Putin is a grand-master and he doesn't want to star the 3rd WW. Fair point.
    But is selling weapons to Syria and Iran starting the 3rd WW ?
    Hitler was put in power...Germany was armed and transformed in enemy of the "free world".
    At this moment the soap opera going on on all western and world media, looks more like the old one. Replace Hitler for Putin and Germany for Russia and you get what happened before the second world war...Unless , of course, one believes, what is written in official history books.
    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?
    We know who Put Yeltsin there. And who he did serve.

    Well, in my humble opinion, this soap opera, looks more and more like the old trick: good cop vs bad cop.

    Yes but we shouldn’t see conspiracies where their aren’t any. We need to find the nanothermite first.

    If Russia is so military powerful as we are told, why can’t they sell weapons to almost defenseless Syrians and Iranians so they can defend themselves against the real terrorists ?

    1. Because then Putin is giving up power to Syria/Iran. Putin likes power.
    2. It may be considered irresponsible behavior to provide freehold first class weapons to potentially unstable countries. This matters in the eyes of countries that matter and don’t already hate Russia – China and India – as well as the smaller neighbors of Syria/Iran.

    Last point. Putin was a KGB officer. Who put him in power ? Why did Yeltsin choose him ?

    I understand it was Boris Berezovsky and the oligarchs, who had a clear script for him. But Putin bucked the script, the oligarchs had to flee, and Berezovsky is dead. So these train of facts actually supports the notion of Putin as an independent player, with sole allegiance to the Russian Federation.

    why Putin (Russia) has an excellent relation (diplomatic) and Personal with Israel’s PM, who, even those who are brain dead but not dishonest know perfectly well that he wants the destruction of Syria and he is the one sending , training, arming the barbarians ? Is it realistic to believe that Putin doesn’t know that ?

    This was my original question and the only one that I can’t answer. It could be a case of ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer’. Christianity seems important to Putin which, if true, should be the bottom line.

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  82. https://www.rt.com/op-ed/424298-false-flag-syria-attack/

    Pity the ‘new Pearl Harbour’ is not mentioned.

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  83. TT says:
    @utu
    Causes of wars in ME:

    3rd tier: the ostensive cause - weapons of mass destruction, bringing democracy, saving women and children. etc. This you can read in the MSM.

    2nd tier: hidden causes for those who think that they are more savvy - pipelines, oil, banking, gold, MIC profits, etc.

    1st tier: the mother of all causes - implementation of the Yinon and PNAC plans for the future of Israel which in first stage is to destabilize and destroy functioning semi-secular Arab/Muslim states by turning them in Hobbesian chaos where sectarian and ethnic faction can be made to fight each other.

    Most people are satisfied with the 3rd tier explanation. More savvy ones will accept the 2nd tier explanations which is for both the supporters and opponents of the war. These are suppose to be the true causes. They are liked by leftist opponents of the war because they are of material/profit nature but also but some oilmen from Texas who believe that war is good for profit. Some the 3nd tier causes can be a motivators but they are not true causes. All conspiracy theorists suppose to be stuck on this level so they never go to the true cause at the 1st tier. Most people will never get to the 1st tier because they are too decent to imagine this kind of evil possible.

    Two comments I wrote related to the subject:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/avigdor-lieberman-hey-donald-lets-you-and-vlad-fight/#comment-2283171

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/there-is-no-inner-party-obama-let-his-18-year-old-daughter-intern-for-harvey-weinstein/#comment-2108768

    Well said.

    3rd tier is pure BS for drones. Many of my country ignorant folks believed all West msm lies that our gov quietly allowed to swamp our news.

    2nd tier, still hold becos that’s what Israelis are motivating Fukus to die for their Yinon plan. Those who control oil, control the world. Once ME taken, fukus Israel will go after Iran & Venezuela, the rest are already in control. Only Russia is left, which FUKUS will crack their hardest nuts by hydrolic-incremental sanction & embargo to completely isolate her.

    1st tier, yes the root of ME crisis. Anglozionist-USM already decided to invade 7 countries in 5yrs. Iran is the last in list, biggest nut to crack.

    My jewish friend told me cynically – remove Israel & all will be peaceful. I thot why not US took all jews in to build their Great Kingdom with $5T, a cheaper solution since Zionist already rule US.

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  84. TT says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Russia has her face all smear with dungs, her allies raped infront the world. Whose makeup is messed up now? If you don’t slapped a bitch when she smashed your plates, she will scratch your car & burn your house, snip your xxx to make you a eunuch.
     
    Hahahaha. Brilliant quote. May I ask, what is your native tongue? And is this a saying in your native language or are you just a particularly colourful orator?

    No it wasn’t any quote in my native tongue, it will be more vulgar. Lol. Juz too pissed off by Putin inaction & self-inflicted humiliation.

    1Mar show was great to stunt those lunatics, but Russia was called bluff by little Israel bit*h soon for not shooting down the 2 F16 attacking T4, and last night again.

    If China & much weaker NK & Iran could scare off FUKUS & Israel, what make Russia so afraid to tit-for-tat to nip the bud by slapping the bitch? Now its been cornered by own inaction, Russia can only either escalate big or continue to be humiliated which bad for peace.

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  85. As you know “conspiracy theory”is a term invented by CIA to discredit and destroy those who didn’t believe that JFK was murdered by a lone wolf. It’s not an argument and I am not talking about conspiracy..Elites do talk. In fact Putin talks more with his war criminal friend than he talks with the Iranian President. Sorry but your arguments why Putin can’t sell weapons to Russian “allies” so they can protect themselves can’t be taken seriously. I am sure you know that. You want to believe. Those who want to destroy Iran and Syria killed millions of Russians just because they were Christians…You must confess that it is at least bizarre that Putin still consider them as friends. And I believe Putin is sincere. Again : I am not saying all this is staged. But we have reasons to have some doubts.

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    If Putin really was so friendly to Israel, would have Russia intervened in Syria? Regarding Turkey, after they downed the two Russian jets, the Russian incinerated their proxies on the ground, the morons streamed their own incineration on the Internet for everyone to see it. Then the Russians tipped off Erdogan about the coup against him and they started dealing with each other seriously. What's wrong with that?
    Why they don't sell their most advanced weaponry to their "allies"? Well, in fact they do when their allies are stable countries and there is no risk that they get backstabbed when a new ruler takes them over. In case you didn't know, the Russians have delivered S-300 air defence systems to Iran and in case you didn't notice, how on Earth do you think the Syrians downed so many rockets if the Russians didn't help at all?
    So far, the Russians have acted wisely. Playing who has bigger is futile. Achieving goals is what's important and that seems to work quite well.
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  86. Vojkan says:
    @ValmMond
    Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It's 1/8 of the Earth's inhabited land area. It's bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what's best for Russia - present and future.
    He doesn't pay much attention to the squeaks and yelping of ramdom empire's domestics and lapdogs.
    By all means, let's all take note of what that hideous Punjabi untouchable Nimrata "Nikki" Randhawa has to say. Or Macron, who 20 years ago married his mother.
    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.

    I would have tried to put it more politely since TT doesn’t seem to be a bad person, but that’s it.
    What better evidence that Russia’s course so far is spot on than reality on the ground and Western hysterics due to their impotence before that reality?

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  87. TT says:
    @L.K
    You are a bit full of shit, you know that, tt?

    Many Russians soldiers, SAA & Iranians were aerial bombed for hours and slaughtered in Feb, Russia said their civilians happen to be at wrong place wrong time. Pompeo bragged in congress how hundreds of Russians were killed as punishment.
     
    Pompeo is an obvious fucking liar, or maybe you are dumb enough to believe 200 Russians were KIA in Deir Ezzor.
    A small number of Russian contractors were killed... by "Iranians", you mean Iranian backed Syrian & I think some Iraqi militiamen. Some SAA were also killed... yes, it was a Zamerican aggression but there have been others before, including in support of ISIS against the besieged SAA garrison defending Deir Ezzor city. Now, Deir Ezzor city has been cleared of ISIS and under Syrian control.

    Israel bombed Syria airfield & killed many Iranian advisors(Russian casualties unknown) immediately after Russia general warning.
     
    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The 'many' Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.

    As for the new aggression from FUKUS, it did little damage & most missiles were shot down by Syrian AD. Even the ZUK based propaganda outlet SOHR has stated that Syrian AD shot down 65 or more missiles.
    It appears the Russians were also warned by the ZUSA and they, in turn, warned the Syrians.
    So far, not even one fatality has been confirmed.

    This was more of a PR stunt by FUKUS.

    The real risk is that this aggression, based on a false flag chemical attack, as ineffective as it was, almost guarantees that there will be more in the future, when Syria moves to finish off the remaining Takfiri Jihadists in Idlib and a few other pockets.

    L. K. you are so fond of calling anyone speaking against Russia or Putin as BS regardless if they make sense. May be you are Russian or zealous russophile.

    But we are keyboard warriors, so we speak our mind & be realistic. Call a spade as spade, no need PC or lick anyone boot. Ron won’t reward us anything for telling sweet word.

    I haven’t received a single cent from China, Russia, NK, Venezuela, Myanmar, Iran, Cuba, Spore, India, etc. that i defended. You can be assured too.

    What make Russia and war hardened SAA, Iran & Hezbollah dare not touch US bases & its embedded terrorists? Massive retaliation to be expected.

    Similarly when FUKUS Israel touch Russian(merc or uniform) and its allies, they must pay the price, at least equiped with manpad to bring down some birds or let SAA fired its S200 but spare the pilot life.

    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The ‘many’ Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.

    What can Israel do if Russia allow SAA & Iran to bring down more F15s like previous, strike back their airfield? That will serve best warning to FUKUS without escalating to direct confrontation. Nip the bud.

    After T4 tactical strike, Israel strike again right after FUKUS pounding, but with open threat this time for endless attack. Fukus will strike again when last ISIS Iblib city is surrounded. See that, the bitch is now scratching your car & demand freedom to burn your house after plate smashing. Next she will snip your manhood organ, very powerful PR stunt you will say, but no turning back.

    Israeli defense minister claims
    right of ‘total freedom of
    action’ in Syrian airspace

    https://www.rt.com/news/424336-lieberman-syria-action-freedom/

    Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that’s what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you.

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    "Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that’s what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you."

    Yeah, and start WW3 just to teach a shitty little country her lesson. Or try achieving your goals without starting WW3, and knowing that your foes' vanity is the biggest threat to world peace, dissuade them from starting WW3 by showing what they risk without humiliating them in the public place. I'm glad the Russians have chosen the second option and you should be too.
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  88. TT says:
    @Anonymous

    Why didn’t the High Court ban arm sales to UK army, which is using them in breach of international humanitarian law, consistently & regularly since its colonial era, in Vietnam & Korea wars
     
    UK wasn't involved in Vietnam.

    Thks for pointing out. Sometimes UK=US in my mind, same evils like mother like son, since both ruled by same Anglozionist.

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  89. @ValmMond
    I stopped reading at:

    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury"
     
    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven't identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn't worth the pixels it's written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:
    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/
    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like "I'm not fan of Putin/Assad" get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their "arguments" comes with the smell of blood. They'll mock your "moderate" views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can't be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

    The link at modern diplomacy doesn’t work

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    Thanks for the heads-up! The original article has been taken down. The facts from the article have since become mainstream knowledge. This is an RT article on the subject:
    https://www.rt.com/news/424278-opcw-spiez-lab-%D1%81omment/
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  90. Wade says:
    @renfro
    Just remember the Jew are behind ALL the US warring in the ME and ALL the following events you are looking at right now today.

    AIPAC Bristles at Obama's Reminder of Iraq War Lobbying – LobeLog
    https://lobelog.com/aipac-bristles-at-obamas-reminder-of-iraq-war-lobbying/

    Aug 6, 2015 - Jim Moran (D-VA), told Tikkun Magazine that AIPAC. has pushed [the Iraq war] from the beginning. I don't think they represent the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all, but because they are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful—most of them are quite wealthy—they ...

    The Iraq war-- What did AIPAC do and when did it do it? - Mondoweiss
    mondoweiss.net/2012/.../the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do...

    Feb 2, 2012 - Let's skip forward to the Iraq war itself, 2003. In The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, Walt and Mearsheimer clearly show that AIPAC pushed the Iraq war, though quietly. AIPAC usually supports what Israel wants, and Israel certainly wanted the United States to invade Iraq. Nathan Guttman made this ...

    Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support war ...
    mondoweiss.net/2015/03/lobbied-congress-support/

    Mar 12, 2015 - Tempers flared even more, they said, when Frank claimed that Israel and AIPAC had lobbied members of Congress a decade ago to support the war in Iraq. ... Remember that Walt and Mearsheimer were tarred as anti-Semites for saying in 2006 that the Israel lobby pushed the Iraq war.

    Moran Down | The New Republic
    https://newrepublic.com/article/61979/moran-down

    Sep 30, 2007 - He said that AIPAC was in favor of the Iraq war and "pushed this war from the beginning." And he claimed that on the Iraq war, AIPAC didn't represent "the mainstream of American Jewish thinking at all." Moran had other things to say--much of it having to do with AIPAC's lobbying on U.S. relations to Iran.

    AIPAC to deploy hundreds of lobbyists to push for Syria action - Haaretz
    https://www.haaretz.com/aipac-pushing-hard-for-syria-action-1.5330700

    Sep 7, 2013 - But they had generally wanted the debate to focus on U.S. national security rather than how a decision to attack Syria might help Israel, a reflection of their sensitivity to being seen as rooting for the United States to go to war. Obama AIPAC - AP - 22.5.11 U.S. President Barack Obama arriving at the AIPAC ...

    Dems slam Moran's tying AIPAC to Iraq war - POLITICO
    https://www.politico.com/story/.../dems-slam-morans-tying-aipac-to-iraq-war-005925

    Sep 19, 2007 - Democrats offended by Jim Moran's statement that Israel lobby group AIPAC "pushed [the Iraq] war."

    AIPAC beats the drums of war - The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/aipac...the...war/.../gIQASVMZtR_story.htmlMar 5,

    2012 - But once inside the hall, the AIPAC attendees heard the sound of war drums. “Iran's nuclear ... Nine years ago this month, there was a similar feeling of inevitability — that despite President George W. Bush's frequent insistence that “war is my last choice,” war in Iraq was coming. Now Israel is moving toward ...

    AIPAC and the Push Toward War - The Atlantic
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/.../aipac...push-toward-war/253358/

    Feb 21, 2012 - The bad news is that, as Kampeas also reports, "AIPAC is expected to make the resolution an 'ask' in three weeks when up to 10,000 activists culminate its ... Greg Thielmann of the Arms Control Association notes that, "Even after crushing Iraq in the first Gulf War, the international coalition only imposed a .....

    Thanks for all of these references..

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  91. Vojkan says:
    @James Brown
    As you know "conspiracy theory"is a term invented by CIA to discredit and destroy those who didn't believe that JFK was murdered by a lone wolf. It's not an argument and I am not talking about conspiracy..Elites do talk. In fact Putin talks more with his war criminal friend than he talks with the Iranian President. Sorry but your arguments why Putin can't sell weapons to Russian "allies" so they can protect themselves can't be taken seriously. I am sure you know that. You want to believe. Those who want to destroy Iran and Syria killed millions of Russians just because they were Christians...You must confess that it is at least bizarre that Putin still consider them as friends. And I believe Putin is sincere. Again : I am not saying all this is staged. But we have reasons to have some doubts.

    If Putin really was so friendly to Israel, would have Russia intervened in Syria? Regarding Turkey, after they downed the two Russian jets, the Russian incinerated their proxies on the ground, the morons streamed their own incineration on the Internet for everyone to see it. Then the Russians tipped off Erdogan about the coup against him and they started dealing with each other seriously. What’s wrong with that?
    Why they don’t sell their most advanced weaponry to their “allies”? Well, in fact they do when their allies are stable countries and there is no risk that they get backstabbed when a new ruler takes them over. In case you didn’t know, the Russians have delivered S-300 air defence systems to Iran and in case you didn’t notice, how on Earth do you think the Syrians downed so many rockets if the Russians didn’t help at all?
    So far, the Russians have acted wisely. Playing who has bigger is futile. Achieving goals is what’s important and that seems to work quite well.

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    Allow me just to play devil's lawyer:
    Why then Putin allows his dear friend-Israel's PM - to bomb Syria once or twice a week? ..Realpolitik? ..Putin seems also to believe that between Hezbollah/Iran and Israel, Russia should be "neutral"and support ...Israel although he does not say it. But he gives carte blanche to his dear frend to bomb Hezbollah and Syria. Something tells me that one day....He will behave the same way when they decide to destroy Iran..as they destroyed Iraq and Libya.
    Iran is a very stable country in spite of attempts of destablizations and more than 30 years of sanctions. Syria used to be stable. Fact: Russia managed, so far, to impede the destruction of Syria. For that reason, Putin deserves our admiration and respect.
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  92. Vojkan says:
    @TT
    L. K. you are so fond of calling anyone speaking against Russia or Putin as BS regardless if they make sense. May be you are Russian or zealous russophile.

    But we are keyboard warriors, so we speak our mind & be realistic. Call a spade as spade, no need PC or lick anyone boot. Ron won't reward us anything for telling sweet word.

    I haven't received a single cent from China, Russia, NK, Venezuela, Myanmar, Iran, Cuba, Spore, India, etc. that i defended. You can be assured too.

    What make Russia and war hardened SAA, Iran & Hezbollah dare not touch US bases & its embedded terrorists? Massive retaliation to be expected.

    Similarly when FUKUS Israel touch Russian(merc or uniform) and its allies, they must pay the price, at least equiped with manpad to bring down some birds or let SAA fired its S200 but spare the pilot life.

    Israel will keep trying to stoke the fires in Syria, hoping that overreaction by Syria/Iran/Russia could draw its ZUSA puppet fully into the Syrian war. it has so far failed. The ‘many’ Iranian advisers were 7 and Iran has vowed to retaliate.
     
    What can Israel do if Russia allow SAA & Iran to bring down more F15s like previous, strike back their airfield? That will serve best warning to FUKUS without escalating to direct confrontation. Nip the bud.

    After T4 tactical strike, Israel strike again right after FUKUS pounding, but with open threat this time for endless attack. Fukus will strike again when last ISIS Iblib city is surrounded. See that, the bitch is now scratching your car & demand freedom to burn your house after plate smashing. Next she will snip your manhood organ, very powerful PR stunt you will say, but no turning back.

    Israeli defense minister claims
    right of 'total freedom of
    action' in Syrian airspace

    https://www.rt.com/news/424336-lieberman-syria-action-freedom/

    Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that's what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you.

    “Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that’s what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you.”

    Yeah, and start WW3 just to teach a shitty little country her lesson. Or try achieving your goals without starting WW3, and knowing that your foes’ vanity is the biggest threat to world peace, dissuade them from starting WW3 by showing what they risk without humiliating them in the public place. I’m glad the Russians have chosen the second option and you should be too.

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    Amen.
    , @TT
    How will you start ww3 with measured retaliation to each Israel attack?

    A strategist may even contemplate to remove the root of aggression, Israel & KSA leaders. When these two evils feel the existential threat, they will hesitate to push the stupid Murkans boys to fight the Russians. UK & France are juz poodles been command to bite a inaction bear.

    By inaction one will be safe? We shall see, when push come to shove, Russia may have push itself into a overly tight corner, that it either be subjugated or fight all way out by nuking the US Nato.

    US Nato is tightening the noose on Russia neck daily. As one China strategist commended, perceiving Russia weakness, US Nato will start to freeze & confiscate Russia global assets, push for global sanction & diplomatic isolation, banned from travel.…most countries will oblige under pressure.

    Without China factor, Russia will soon be completely isolated without trade, global airspace usage & UN membership, while facing military threat at borders.

    Weaker NK & Iran are resisting West successfully, you should study their PR stunt & psy-warfare that subdue Trumps vanity of show buzz.

    With Russia strategists advice, Putin know better, he is not coward, but he has something hiding, some said its jews like you, but i think something is deeper. Will talk about that later.
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  93. Mike P says:
    @James Brown
    Putin doesn't need my approval. He has already enough approval from his people and from most readers of the independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think. Independent in sense of being able to think your own thoughts...to doubt. Almost no one has doubts about Putin . I Just have some doubts. That's all.

    Do you really believe that selling weapons to Russian Allies to allow them to protect and defend themselves against the terrorists is " giving up control over those weapons" and thus the main reason why Putin refuses to sell them ?
    If you believe that, sorry, I can't help you.

    I'm not saying it is 100% a staged play but it looks more and more like one. And if history can teach us something maybe what we know of what was done to Germany and the transformation of an incompetent and stupid corporal in a "monster", can, maybe, help us to understand what's going on.

    … independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think.

    Oh I’m sure there are plenty of people and agencies trying (and succeeding) to manipulate the independent media. The value of these media is not that everything you read is true and objective, but that they provide a refuge for freedom of speech.

    I do happen to think that retaining control is a sufficient reason for Putin to not distribute the newest Russian weapons systems freely – particularly in Syria, where a) trained operators don’t exist b) they could easily fall into the wrong hands in the still ongoing turmoil. There may be other, stronger reasons – I’d be happy to consider such, but “sorry I can’t help you” doesn’t qualify.

    Regarding the staged play – the fireworks were all for domestic consumption in the West, and Putin understands this. He is not going to endanger his real prize of having won in Syria by trying to look strong for an audience of brainwashed zombies and thereby escalating the war. Any triumphant noises emanating from D.C. are occasioned by the humiliation of Trump, not of Putin.

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    If you read the mainstream media the narrative is that Russia is very, very dangerous and Putin is the new Hitler. If you read the "independent " media (not independent because nothing is independent in this world)...Putin/Russia is going to save us from the bad guys. Well, the way Russia behaves towards the bad guys may suggest that maybe Russia/Putin have more in common with the bad guys that readers of the "independent " media would like to admit. Is it unreasonable to ask if the perpetuation of the war in Syria is not also good business for the Russian MIC? Russians merchant of death?..
    It is well known that Russia do not sell some weapons to its "allies" because its " western partners" do not want.
    Putin did not win in Syria. Not yet. Far from it. Partition of Syria is still a real possibility.
    It is true that Putin did declare victory in Syria...but that was at best premature or he was doing something that someone told him to do.
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  94. Mike P says:
    @Vojkan
    "Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that’s what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you."

    Yeah, and start WW3 just to teach a shitty little country her lesson. Or try achieving your goals without starting WW3, and knowing that your foes' vanity is the biggest threat to world peace, dissuade them from starting WW3 by showing what they risk without humiliating them in the public place. I'm glad the Russians have chosen the second option and you should be too.

    Amen.

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  95. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough.

    Not exactly.

    For example in a WW1 ‘Appeal for Enlistment’ leaflet, Mohandas Gandhi wrote:

    To bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them… If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible dispatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army.’ For Gandhi, ‘Home Rule without military power was useless, and this was the best opportunity to get it’. An India ‘trained for fighting will be able to wrest freedom in a moment’, and with the strength gained on the battlefield ‘even fight the Empire, should it play foul with us.

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  96. TT says:
    @ValmMond
    Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It's 1/8 of the Earth's inhabited land area. It's bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what's best for Russia - present and future.
    He doesn't pay much attention to the squeaks and yelping of ramdom empire's domestics and lapdogs.
    By all means, let's all take note of what that hideous Punjabi untouchable Nimrata "Nikki" Randhawa has to say. Or Macron, who 20 years ago married his mother.
    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.

    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It’s 1/8 of the Earth’s inhabited land area. It’s bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what’s best for Russia – present and future

    .

    So, im placing my last hope on Russia & China with a few last few brave countries like NK, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba to resist the satans from destroying the world.

    By been called bluff unnecessary, Putin self inflicted with Fukus & Israel attacked & humiliation repeatedly. That will spiral out of control when Israel tried harder. I will give you a scenario for not nip the bud.

    During next FUKUS attack, Israel submarine sinks some US vessels and strikes US bases. Mistaken as Russia retaliation (intentionally or ignorant), US strikes back at Russian bases for PR stunt to save face. There it spiral into full confrontation, or Russia surrended by withdrawing to lick wounds. Then Putin’s partners push all the way to her doorstep(already now).

    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.

    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs. What shit do you know about war fare kid?

    Study what the Chinese, NK & Iranian real war ready generals did in psy-warfare against FUKUS, they always make FUKUS withdraw foolishly. These Western tender asses aren’t willing to die in tens of thousands for their unjustified aggression.

    Im very sure Russia has plenty of good strategists, war proven great Generals, but Putin make them impotent.

    Look at the chief general, a boyish man with no war experience & credential(?), probably put there to safeguard Putin’s power, unlike other generals(the one killed in Syria precision mortar) simply look fearsome to enemies, he is commander of Chechnya & Donbass war Putin put incharged.

    In 2005, i remembered watching how a Chinese most hawkish BG Zhu Chenghu 朱成虎incharged of 2nd Artillery(nuke) warned off US when hawkish Bush team tried to push for a conventional war over Taiwan to block China rise after Deng XP death. Unlike war harden Mao, Deng & their old guards, China Prez Jiang/Hu was too frighten to handle.

    That BG fierce look simply awed enemies, declared so manly: “China will never fight a losing conventional war with US, be ready to exchange hundreds of cities. China will strike first in a month time, get prepare.” The world leaders gone frenzy, Bush back down, case closed. China remained peaceful for next 10years.

    My family & myself were so impressed and felt relief that China still has such great general to resist the evil West, as Jiang era was utter corrupted that most generals buy their way up. They mostly look like my country generals, fat greedy nerds.

    Scared Chinese leaders punished the general to appease Bush & US Congress demanding his dismiss. But Prez Xi is different, a descendant from military family with his father a war proven General, he confronted US in SCS crisis last year. BG Zhu is likely to get Prez Xi recognition.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Chenghu

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/16/china.jonathanwatts

    http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/realities-chinas-no-first-use-policy/

    At a press briefing in Beijing in July 2005, Major General Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China’s National Defense University (NDU), reportedly threatened the use of nuclear weapons against the United States in the context of a Sino-U.S. military conflict over Taiwan.

    It seemed all English articles & news appeared to be very different from 2005 Asia & Chinese news, without mention of his portfolio as 2nd artillery(nuke) commander & his direct 1st strike nuke challenge to US. There are probably some PR by China & West to tone down the clash & scrubbing work. Also can’t find his 2005 picture when he warned US. He mellowed much to chubby old man now after losing his power.

    When enemies threat is imminent, great warrior look bravely into enemies eyes and ready to fight fearlessly to defend. That make invading enemies very cautious of the high price to pay. That’s warfare. Idiot. You are not fighter race Russian obviously.

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    What shit do you know about war fare kid?

     

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.

    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs.
     
    Assuming that's true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
    Don't take it personally - I respect the institution of American militias as the ultimate bulwark against tyranny etc. Unfortunately, as all things constitutional, you've been corrupted and destroyed from within.
    A "fierce look" and a few shiny toys don't make you a soldier. Being a soldier is a state of mind, it's a condition of the spirit and an asceticism of the body. Most of you "militiamen" have become emasculated consumerists, with no sense of honor or moral ideals, living on debt, as the rest of your fellow Americans.

    Don't lecture me on Putin's submission to Israel. The USA has been a ZOT for the last 50 years. Americans have been run, used, abused and occasionally sodomized (9/11) by double passport nationals for half a century. Where is the US patriot's resistance? What have the brave American militiamen done? That's right, you sat on the side, drunk beer, watched football and porn and did nothing.
    Of course, now you are are willing to fight israel to the last Russian.
    Let me know when you are done polishing and shining that rifle barrel. Wankers.

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  97. TT says:
    @Vojkan
    "Kill the Israel chicken to frighten the Fukus monkey, that’s what i learned from wise Chinese proverb. Utu will agree, ask him to enlighten you."

    Yeah, and start WW3 just to teach a shitty little country her lesson. Or try achieving your goals without starting WW3, and knowing that your foes' vanity is the biggest threat to world peace, dissuade them from starting WW3 by showing what they risk without humiliating them in the public place. I'm glad the Russians have chosen the second option and you should be too.

    How will you start ww3 with measured retaliation to each Israel attack?

    A strategist may even contemplate to remove the root of aggression, Israel & KSA leaders. When these two evils feel the existential threat, they will hesitate to push the stupid Murkans boys to fight the Russians. UK & France are juz poodles been command to bite a inaction bear.

    By inaction one will be safe? We shall see, when push come to shove, Russia may have push itself into a overly tight corner, that it either be subjugated or fight all way out by nuking the US Nato.

    US Nato is tightening the noose on Russia neck daily. As one China strategist commended, perceiving Russia weakness, US Nato will start to freeze & confiscate Russia global assets, push for global sanction & diplomatic isolation, banned from travel.…most countries will oblige under pressure.

    Without China factor, Russia will soon be completely isolated without trade, global airspace usage & UN membership, while facing military threat at borders.

    Weaker NK & Iran are resisting West successfully, you should study their PR stunt & psy-warfare that subdue Trumps vanity of show buzz.

    With Russia strategists advice, Putin know better, he is not coward, but he has something hiding, some said its jews like you, but i think something is deeper. Will talk about that later.

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  98. RobinG says:
    @Vojkan
    The "Putin is a Jewish puppet" line is absurd. Now you may not take my word for it because there are things I cannot backup with hard evidence but would Russia have jailed Khodorkovsky and tried to jail Berezovsky if it was so?
    The truth is Israel has many agents around the globe, has bought or pressured many goyim into compliance, has a Samson option and is mad enough to use nukes even if not existentially threatened because of a feeling of impunity. The cost of striking Israel decisively far exceeds the benefit at the moment and that's the reason the Russians are in damage control mode when dealing with the unholy wart in the ME.
    Things will remain as they are until the Jewish state's behaviour tilts the balance the other way.

    Some good news on the home front.
    Yesterday, 30 pro-Palestinian-rights Jewish Americans with If Not Now demanded that Sen. Cardin condemn Israel’s violence toward peacefully protesting Gazans.
    The way out of this doomsday spiral is that Israel fairly peacefully implodes, a la USSR.
    It could happen. 2021.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/jewish-activists-storm-senator-s-office-as-lawmakers-sound-off-on-gaza-1.6008583

    Jewish Activists Storm Senator’s Office as Lawmakers Sound Off on Israel’s Conduct at Gaza Border

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    The movie "Exodus" would receive a chilly reception if produced today,

    Arab terrorism was a ghastly mistake and yielded only considerable sympathy for Israel.

    But now that good will has evaporated and only fear of personal, economic, or political retribution controls.

    Now there is much clarity on AIPAC, SPLC, BB, ADL, AJC, HIAS, the Adelson Primary, the JDL, the Liberty, Pollard, Barbara the Spiller of the Beans, Soros, sayonim, neocons, Jewish representation in Bolshevism and radical leftist causes, media concentration and ownership, endless demonization of Nazis, dual citizenship, Jewish manipulation over The Holocaust but complete and utter silence about the Other Holocausts, destruction of basic rights in the name of fighting "anti-Semitism," inordinate worldwide political and economic control, immigration fanaticism (remember 1965!), Gelbaum and the Sierra Club, the Frankfurt School, the content of the Talmud, supremacism, Rabbi Schneerson quotes, in-group loyalty, Ashkenazis, the Yinon Plan, monoethnic Israel but diversity for the goyim, the Sampson Option, aggressive war in Syria, the astronomical worldwide political distortions of Zionism, billions in aid to Israel for what exactly, fairy tales about Israel as our BFF in the ME, and now outrageous killing of demonstrators in Gaza with hogwash about mortal threats to the border.

    For the truth about Zionism as a non-Jewish phenomenon the thinking of some religious Jews is amazing. Intelligence and astonishing good sense.

    The long and the short of Israel is that the British promised Zionists land that was not theirs to dispose of to solve a problem the owners thereof did not create. Zionistas think some vaporous title to Israel is theirs because some completely different guys lived there 2,000 years ago and then moved or got absorbed somewhere. They have established this patent nonsense by force of arms and maintain it by force of arms. Thus they enjoy sovereignty for the moment but they are kidding themselves if "Live by the sword, die by the sword" doesn't apply to them. Is there any good will left?
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  99. RobinG says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    Hello Ron,

    Please consider republishing this Jonathan Cook article on Syria. Thank you for your courage.

    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-04-17/fisk-report-syria-air-strikes/

    17 April 2018, Fisk rips away excuses for air strike on Syria

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    Agreed that it's a good article. These are reporters getting first hand information:

    Fisk’s account is corroborated by another reporter there, Pearson Sharp of the conservative news network One America. Unlike Fisk, who I know has a long track record as a highly credible reporter of events in the Middle East, Sharp is an unknown quantity to me. But it may be significant that he echoes Fisk in saying that no one he spoke to, even in the neighbourhood where the attack supposedly occurred, seemed aware that chemical weapons had been used.

     

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  100. ValmMond says:
    @TT

    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It’s 1/8 of the Earth’s inhabited land area. It’s bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what’s best for Russia – present and future
     
    .

    So, im placing my last hope on Russia & China with a few last few brave countries like NK, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba to resist the satans from destroying the world.

    By been called bluff unnecessary, Putin self inflicted with Fukus & Israel attacked & humiliation repeatedly. That will spiral out of control when Israel tried harder. I will give you a scenario for not nip the bud.

    During next FUKUS attack, Israel submarine sinks some US vessels and strikes US bases. Mistaken as Russia retaliation (intentionally or ignorant), US strikes back at Russian bases for PR stunt to save face. There it spiral into full confrontation, or Russia surrended by withdrawing to lick wounds. Then Putin's partners push all the way to her doorstep(already now).

    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.
     
    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs. What shit do you know about war fare kid?

    Study what the Chinese, NK & Iranian real war ready generals did in psy-warfare against FUKUS, they always make FUKUS withdraw foolishly. These Western tender asses aren't willing to die in tens of thousands for their unjustified aggression.

    Im very sure Russia has plenty of good strategists, war proven great Generals, but Putin make them impotent.

    Look at the chief general, a boyish man with no war experience & credential(?), probably put there to safeguard Putin's power, unlike other generals(the one killed in Syria precision mortar) simply look fearsome to enemies, he is commander of Chechnya & Donbass war Putin put incharged.

    In 2005, i remembered watching how a Chinese most hawkish BG Zhu Chenghu 朱成虎incharged of 2nd Artillery(nuke) warned off US when hawkish Bush team tried to push for a conventional war over Taiwan to block China rise after Deng XP death. Unlike war harden Mao, Deng & their old guards, China Prez Jiang/Hu was too frighten to handle.

    That BG fierce look simply awed enemies, declared so manly: "China will never fight a losing conventional war with US, be ready to exchange hundreds of cities. China will strike first in a month time, get prepare." The world leaders gone frenzy, Bush back down, case closed. China remained peaceful for next 10years.

    My family & myself were so impressed and felt relief that China still has such great general to resist the evil West, as Jiang era was utter corrupted that most generals buy their way up. They mostly look like my country generals, fat greedy nerds.

    Scared Chinese leaders punished the general to appease Bush & US Congress demanding his dismiss. But Prez Xi is different, a descendant from military family with his father a war proven General, he confronted US in SCS crisis last year. BG Zhu is likely to get Prez Xi recognition.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Chenghu

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/16/china.jonathanwatts

    http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/realities-chinas-no-first-use-policy/

    At a press briefing in Beijing in July 2005, Major General Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China's National Defense University (NDU), reportedly threatened the use of nuclear weapons against the United States in the context of a Sino-U.S. military conflict over Taiwan.
     
    It seemed all English articles & news appeared to be very different from 2005 Asia & Chinese news, without mention of his portfolio as 2nd artillery(nuke) commander & his direct 1st strike nuke challenge to US. There are probably some PR by China & West to tone down the clash & scrubbing work. Also can't find his 2005 picture when he warned US. He mellowed much to chubby old man now after losing his power.

    When enemies threat is imminent, great warrior look bravely into enemies eyes and ready to fight fearlessly to defend. That make invading enemies very cautious of the high price to pay. That's warfare. Idiot. You are not fighter race Russian obviously.

    What shit do you know about war fare kid?

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.

    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs.

    Assuming that’s true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
    Don’t take it personally – I respect the institution of American militias as the ultimate bulwark against tyranny etc. Unfortunately, as all things constitutional, you’ve been corrupted and destroyed from within.
    A “fierce look” and a few shiny toys don’t make you a soldier. Being a soldier is a state of mind, it’s a condition of the spirit and an asceticism of the body. Most of you “militiamen” have become emasculated consumerists, with no sense of honor or moral ideals, living on debt, as the rest of your fellow Americans.

    Don’t lecture me on Putin’s submission to Israel. The USA has been a ZOT for the last 50 years. Americans have been run, used, abused and occasionally sodomized (9/11) by double passport nationals for half a century. Where is the US patriot’s resistance? What have the brave American militiamen done? That’s right, you sat on the side, drunk beer, watched football and porn and did nothing.
    Of course, now you are are willing to fight israel to the last Russian.
    Let me know when you are done polishing and shining that rifle barrel. Wankers.

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    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.
     
    '90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West. You learned to be submissived to West & Zionists, good. Try appeasement, who know one day it might work for the benevolent Anglozionist to have peace.

    Assuming that’s true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
     
    Im not from US, sober up from your vodka hangover before you spray your bullets like drunkard.

    Militias are not what you imagine. Go check dictionary - it means a group of people who are not part of the regular armed forces of a country but are trained like soldiers regularly, to be called up during emergency/war.
    , @Mike P
    I doubt that TT is an American militia man - English is clearly not his first language. He might be Chinese. Since he mentions "full time", I suspect he is indeed a regular soldier of his home country's army.

    I do agree with your take that Putin has made the right choice in not retaliating. He has nothing to prove at this point; his swift, decisive action in Crimea and the daring Syrian expedition both caught the Empire flat-footed and have proven sufficiently that he is not afraid to act when required. People with memories too short for those will have forgotten his recent "humiliation" tomorrow anyway.

    When Turkey downed the Russian jets, he kept his cool, let it pass, and waited for Turkey to wake up to the reality of the situation. Turkey might not be now Russia's ally if he had acted with less restraint.
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  101. @Vojkan
    If Putin really was so friendly to Israel, would have Russia intervened in Syria? Regarding Turkey, after they downed the two Russian jets, the Russian incinerated their proxies on the ground, the morons streamed their own incineration on the Internet for everyone to see it. Then the Russians tipped off Erdogan about the coup against him and they started dealing with each other seriously. What's wrong with that?
    Why they don't sell their most advanced weaponry to their "allies"? Well, in fact they do when their allies are stable countries and there is no risk that they get backstabbed when a new ruler takes them over. In case you didn't know, the Russians have delivered S-300 air defence systems to Iran and in case you didn't notice, how on Earth do you think the Syrians downed so many rockets if the Russians didn't help at all?
    So far, the Russians have acted wisely. Playing who has bigger is futile. Achieving goals is what's important and that seems to work quite well.

    Allow me just to play devil’s lawyer:
    Why then Putin allows his dear friend-Israel’s PM – to bomb Syria once or twice a week? ..Realpolitik? ..Putin seems also to believe that between Hezbollah/Iran and Israel, Russia should be “neutral”and support …Israel although he does not say it. But he gives carte blanche to his dear frend to bomb Hezbollah and Syria. Something tells me that one day….He will behave the same way when they decide to destroy Iran..as they destroyed Iraq and Libya.
    Iran is a very stable country in spite of attempts of destablizations and more than 30 years of sanctions. Syria used to be stable. Fact: Russia managed, so far, to impede the destruction of Syria. For that reason, Putin deserves our admiration and respect.

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  102. @Mike P

    ... independent media, which maybe is not so independent as we like to think.
     
    Oh I'm sure there are plenty of people and agencies trying (and succeeding) to manipulate the independent media. The value of these media is not that everything you read is true and objective, but that they provide a refuge for freedom of speech.

    I do happen to think that retaining control is a sufficient reason for Putin to not distribute the newest Russian weapons systems freely - particularly in Syria, where a) trained operators don't exist b) they could easily fall into the wrong hands in the still ongoing turmoil. There may be other, stronger reasons - I'd be happy to consider such, but "sorry I can't help you" doesn't qualify.

    Regarding the staged play - the fireworks were all for domestic consumption in the West, and Putin understands this. He is not going to endanger his real prize of having won in Syria by trying to look strong for an audience of brainwashed zombies and thereby escalating the war. Any triumphant noises emanating from D.C. are occasioned by the humiliation of Trump, not of Putin.

    If you read the mainstream media the narrative is that Russia is very, very dangerous and Putin is the new Hitler. If you read the “independent ” media (not independent because nothing is independent in this world)…Putin/Russia is going to save us from the bad guys. Well, the way Russia behaves towards the bad guys may suggest that maybe Russia/Putin have more in common with the bad guys that readers of the “independent ” media would like to admit. Is it unreasonable to ask if the perpetuation of the war in Syria is not also good business for the Russian MIC? Russians merchant of death?..
    It is well known that Russia do not sell some weapons to its “allies” because its ” western partners” do not want.
    Putin did not win in Syria. Not yet. Far from it. Partition of Syria is still a real possibility.
    It is true that Putin did declare victory in Syria…but that was at best premature or he was doing something that someone told him to do.

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  103. ValmMond says:
    @Giraffehead
    The link at modern diplomacy doesn't work

    Thanks for the heads-up! The original article has been taken down. The facts from the article have since become mainstream knowledge. This is an RT article on the subject:

    https://www.rt.com/news/424278-opcw-spiez-lab-%D1%81omment/

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  104. TT says:
    @ValmMond

    What shit do you know about war fare kid?

     

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.

    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs.
     
    Assuming that's true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
    Don't take it personally - I respect the institution of American militias as the ultimate bulwark against tyranny etc. Unfortunately, as all things constitutional, you've been corrupted and destroyed from within.
    A "fierce look" and a few shiny toys don't make you a soldier. Being a soldier is a state of mind, it's a condition of the spirit and an asceticism of the body. Most of you "militiamen" have become emasculated consumerists, with no sense of honor or moral ideals, living on debt, as the rest of your fellow Americans.

    Don't lecture me on Putin's submission to Israel. The USA has been a ZOT for the last 50 years. Americans have been run, used, abused and occasionally sodomized (9/11) by double passport nationals for half a century. Where is the US patriot's resistance? What have the brave American militiamen done? That's right, you sat on the side, drunk beer, watched football and porn and did nothing.
    Of course, now you are are willing to fight israel to the last Russian.
    Let me know when you are done polishing and shining that rifle barrel. Wankers.

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.

    ’90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West. You learned to be submissived to West & Zionists, good. Try appeasement, who know one day it might work for the benevolent Anglozionist to have peace.

    Assuming that’s true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.

    Im not from US, sober up from your vodka hangover before you spray your bullets like drunkard.

    Militias are not what you imagine. Go check dictionary – it means a group of people who are not part of the regular armed forces of a country but are trained like soldiers regularly, to be called up during emergency/war.

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    ’90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West.
     
    No, just before.

    Militias are not what you imagine.
     
    I know what a militia is. Unless you live in Iceland, Iran, DPRK, India, Malaysia or Indonesia, your country is Ziowned. See my comments above.

    to be called up during emergency
     
    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles' re-enactment?
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  105. Mike P says:
    @ValmMond

    What shit do you know about war fare kid?

     

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.

    Im a full time trained soldier, being militias for 20yrs.
     
    Assuming that's true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
    Don't take it personally - I respect the institution of American militias as the ultimate bulwark against tyranny etc. Unfortunately, as all things constitutional, you've been corrupted and destroyed from within.
    A "fierce look" and a few shiny toys don't make you a soldier. Being a soldier is a state of mind, it's a condition of the spirit and an asceticism of the body. Most of you "militiamen" have become emasculated consumerists, with no sense of honor or moral ideals, living on debt, as the rest of your fellow Americans.

    Don't lecture me on Putin's submission to Israel. The USA has been a ZOT for the last 50 years. Americans have been run, used, abused and occasionally sodomized (9/11) by double passport nationals for half a century. Where is the US patriot's resistance? What have the brave American militiamen done? That's right, you sat on the side, drunk beer, watched football and porn and did nothing.
    Of course, now you are are willing to fight israel to the last Russian.
    Let me know when you are done polishing and shining that rifle barrel. Wankers.

    I doubt that TT is an American militia man – English is clearly not his first language. He might be Chinese. Since he mentions “full time”, I suspect he is indeed a regular soldier of his home country’s army.

    I do agree with your take that Putin has made the right choice in not retaliating. He has nothing to prove at this point; his swift, decisive action in Crimea and the daring Syrian expedition both caught the Empire flat-footed and have proven sufficiently that he is not afraid to act when required. People with memories too short for those will have forgotten his recent “humiliation” tomorrow anyway.

    When Turkey downed the Russian jets, he kept his cool, let it pass, and waited for Turkey to wake up to the reality of the situation. Turkey might not be now Russia’s ally if he had acted with less restraint.

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    At a press-conference a few years ago, Putin dropped the old Chinese saying that if one waits by the river long enough, the bodies of our enemies will eventually float by. I don't remember the exact context but it struck me as a little weird back then. Inaction is not always his first choice as the Crimean events demonstrated. Russians understand that time is on their side. The West is desintegrating, the Arctic is melting, the empire has run its course.
    Turkey is volatile and opportunistic. They betrayed once. They'll betray again. Putin forgave but didn't forget. He doesn't consider Erdogan to be an ally. For all strategic purposes Turkey is neutral at best.
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  106. Miro23 says:
    @RobinG
    Hello Ron,

    Please consider republishing this Jonathan Cook article on Syria. Thank you for your courage.

    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-04-17/fisk-report-syria-air-strikes/
    17 April 2018, Fisk rips away excuses for air strike on Syria

    Agreed that it’s a good article. These are reporters getting first hand information:

    Fisk’s account is corroborated by another reporter there, Pearson Sharp of the conservative news network One America. Unlike Fisk, who I know has a long track record as a highly credible reporter of events in the Middle East, Sharp is an unknown quantity to me. But it may be significant that he echoes Fisk in saying that no one he spoke to, even in the neighbourhood where the attack supposedly occurred, seemed aware that chemical weapons had been used.

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  107. ValmMond says:
    @TT

    As much as one was able to learn in the Soviet army back in the 90s.
     
    '90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West. You learned to be submissived to West & Zionists, good. Try appeasement, who know one day it might work for the benevolent Anglozionist to have peace.

    Assuming that’s true (this is the internet after all), you are a militiaman, not a soldier. Big difference. In the 21st century US, a militia means a group of gun-obsessed, obese grown up men playing soldiers.
     
    Im not from US, sober up from your vodka hangover before you spray your bullets like drunkard.

    Militias are not what you imagine. Go check dictionary - it means a group of people who are not part of the regular armed forces of a country but are trained like soldiers regularly, to be called up during emergency/war.

    ’90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West.

    No, just before.

    Militias are not what you imagine.

    I know what a militia is. Unless you live in Iceland, Iran, DPRK, India, Malaysia or Indonesia, your country is Ziowned. See my comments above.

    to be called up during emergency

    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles’ re-enactment?

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    Ok then you are a respectable ex-Soviet Union soldier.

    Im retired free man now from compulsory army service.

    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles’ re-enactment?
     
    Gawd know, gov leaders decide, juz as yours.

    All i wanted to say if you read my comment history is, all major war can be best prevented by nip the bud. Russia has allowed itself to slip slowly into abyss.

    The coordinated actions by Anglozionist is very systematic to bleed Russia in thousands cut. Cost is high in maintaining Syria grinding war, feeding ten millions soldiers & Syrians alone is astronomical.

    How much Russia can further tolerate humiliation & attacks before reaching boiling pt of escalating out of control or collapse into slavery, time will tell. Wish Russia all the best.
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  108. ValmMond says:
    @Mike P
    I doubt that TT is an American militia man - English is clearly not his first language. He might be Chinese. Since he mentions "full time", I suspect he is indeed a regular soldier of his home country's army.

    I do agree with your take that Putin has made the right choice in not retaliating. He has nothing to prove at this point; his swift, decisive action in Crimea and the daring Syrian expedition both caught the Empire flat-footed and have proven sufficiently that he is not afraid to act when required. People with memories too short for those will have forgotten his recent "humiliation" tomorrow anyway.

    When Turkey downed the Russian jets, he kept his cool, let it pass, and waited for Turkey to wake up to the reality of the situation. Turkey might not be now Russia's ally if he had acted with less restraint.

    At a press-conference a few years ago, Putin dropped the old Chinese saying that if one waits by the river long enough, the bodies of our enemies will eventually float by. I don’t remember the exact context but it struck me as a little weird back then. Inaction is not always his first choice as the Crimean events demonstrated. Russians understand that time is on their side. The West is desintegrating, the Arctic is melting, the empire has run its course.
    Turkey is volatile and opportunistic. They betrayed once. They’ll betray again. Putin forgave but didn’t forget. He doesn’t consider Erdogan to be an ally. For all strategic purposes Turkey is neutral at best.

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    Largely agree - it is hard to imagine a more volatile and self-centred politician than Erdogan. Still, it speaks for itself that the US managed to lose him and Putin to bring him onside (for now).

    The arctic has melted before and will refreeze. Right now, there are two inches of global warming covering my lawn here in southern Ontario. "Climate change" is just another silly mind control gimmick - you know it's BS if the mass media push it relentlessly with scare stories that are just as phony as those recent gas attacks. A good site to read about these things is wattsupwiththat.com.
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  109. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do.

    As I was just telling someone the other day, the whole geopolitical situation in the Middle East is actually very simple, and not too difficult from the endless quarrels and wars over territory and such between Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and various other countries in the Balkans a hundred-odd years ago. The only oddity is that since the "Bulgarians" have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they've decided it's safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Another good analogy comes from World War I. From what I vaguely recall, hundreds of thousands of Indians fought and died for the British in Europe and the Middle East. Since their own country was on the absolute other side of the world, they obviously had not the slightest direct interest in those areas, but their colonial overlord certainly did, and that was enough. For all I know, many of the Indians were told that Germany constituted a mortal threat to their way of life, and was planning to conquer them and outlaw Hinduism...

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do….The only oddity is that since the “Bulgarians” have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they’ve decided it’s safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.

    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries. The Obama administration’s negotiation of the Iran nuclear deal greatly angered Netanyahu, and the extensive US bombing campaign against ISIS has been a huge boon to the exhausted and over-stretched forces of the Assad government.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East—Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq—since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel. Afghanistan and Libya are distant from Israel, and posed no threat to its security. The US invasion of Iraq predictably massively increased Iranian influence in the Middle East by removing Hussein’s regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.

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    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East [...]. since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.

    [...] by removing Hussein’s regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.
     
    Do not remember great anti-war protests in Israel or too many Jewish talking heads trying to change the course of American policy from war to peace. It must have been because of great anti-Semitism which keeps Jews down in America and prevent them arguing their self-interest in public. So that nobody would accuse them of disloyalty out of fear in this anti-Semitic country they were forced to feign enthusiasm for all those wars that were only hurting Israel. Poor Jews.
    , @Erebus

    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries.
     
    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before "going to Tehran" makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they've been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East—Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq—since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.
     
    ... illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.
    At the "end of history", there was enough hubris permeating the air in Washington to make careful assessment, planning and disciplined execution unnecessary. "We'll create our own reality", they said, presumably intending to cobble it together from "known and unknown unknowns".

    In the end, they didn't know more than they thought they didn't know.

    Net result is that not only Israel, but Washington's Arab satrapies find themselves scrambling to come to terms with what the "New Middle East" is gonna look like. The USM may have a few 100 missile salvoes left in them, but having had its credibility destroyed, its military limits exposed, and its finances in doubt, the end of the M.E.'s Pax Americana has hove into view.

    A grand case of "Be careful what you wish (and lobby) for".
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  110. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do....The only oddity is that since the “Bulgarians” have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they’ve decided it’s safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.
     
    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries. The Obama administration's negotiation of the Iran nuclear deal greatly angered Netanyahu, and the extensive US bombing campaign against ISIS has been a huge boon to the exhausted and over-stretched forces of the Assad government.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East---Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq---since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel. Afghanistan and Libya are distant from Israel, and posed no threat to its security. The US invasion of Iraq predictably massively increased Iranian influence in the Middle East by removing Hussein's regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East [...]. since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.

    [...] by removing Hussein’s regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.

    Do not remember great anti-war protests in Israel or too many Jewish talking heads trying to change the course of American policy from war to peace. It must have been because of great anti-Semitism which keeps Jews down in America and prevent them arguing their self-interest in public. So that nobody would accuse them of disloyalty out of fear in this anti-Semitic country they were forced to feign enthusiasm for all those wars that were only hurting Israel. Poor Jews.

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    Do not remember great anti-war protests in Israel
     
    Israel is a pretty small and nationalistic country, so that's hardly surprising. I'm too young to personally (mis)remember news events from ~2003, but evidently some of the biggest protests against the war were in New York City, and no doubt Jews were very highly represented relative to their population share among protesters. (Incidentally, there's a photograph of a young me at one of those protests with my Jewish parents, who were against the war.)

    or too many Jewish talking heads trying to change the course of American policy from war to peace.
     
    Again, while I have no personal memories of which pundits were most influential at which exact times, when I think of prominent American anti-war commentators, certainly there are quite a few Jews: Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, Eric Alterman, Howard Zinn, and so on. Matt Yglesias was initially for the war, but I think reversed his position rather quickly and became a trenchant critic of it. (His book "Heads in the Sand" is excellent, and thoroughly BTFO's lots of neoconservative absurdities.)

    As far as American Jews as a whole go, according to Gallup they opposed the Iraq War more strongly than any other religious group, by 77-21, compared to 52-46 for the population as a whole. Obviously, American Jews also vote by considerable margins for the Democratic Party, and if Al Gore had been elected president in 2000 there wouldn't have been an Iraq War. (Ironically, IIRC one of the factors that pushed Bush over the edge was that many elderly Jewish Florida voters accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan's fringe third-party candidacy due to poorly designed ballots.)

    It must have been because of great anti-Semitism which keeps Jews down in America and prevent them arguing their self-interest in public. So that nobody would accuse them of disloyalty out of fear in this anti-Semitic country they were forced to feign enthusiasm for all those wars that were only hurting Israel. Poor Jews.
     
    Instead of responding to my actual arguments against what Ron Unz alleges is your air-tight case , you have to come up with a goofy and irrelevant strawman caricature. Sad!
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  111. Mike P says:
    @ValmMond
    At a press-conference a few years ago, Putin dropped the old Chinese saying that if one waits by the river long enough, the bodies of our enemies will eventually float by. I don't remember the exact context but it struck me as a little weird back then. Inaction is not always his first choice as the Crimean events demonstrated. Russians understand that time is on their side. The West is desintegrating, the Arctic is melting, the empire has run its course.
    Turkey is volatile and opportunistic. They betrayed once. They'll betray again. Putin forgave but didn't forget. He doesn't consider Erdogan to be an ally. For all strategic purposes Turkey is neutral at best.

    Largely agree – it is hard to imagine a more volatile and self-centred politician than Erdogan. Still, it speaks for itself that the US managed to lose him and Putin to bring him onside (for now).

    The arctic has melted before and will refreeze. Right now, there are two inches of global warming covering my lawn here in southern Ontario. “Climate change” is just another silly mind control gimmick – you know it’s BS if the mass media push it relentlessly with scare stories that are just as phony as those recent gas attacks. A good site to read about these things is wattsupwiththat.com.

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    It's global warming and yet I burnt 1 cubic meter more wood last winter and for the second time in three years will eat no apricots because of a late March deep freeze, that didn't happen once in 25 years before that. When you believe the media instead of your own experience and sense, you can be made to eat a lot of bs like global warming, Iraqi WMD, the Skripals poisoning, Assad gas attacks, how GMOs will feed the world, how it is good to poison toddlers' with Al and Hg to vaccinate them against diseases they're as likely to get as being killed by a meteorite etc.
    I occasionally take a glance at Western MSM sites comments sections, just to gauge temperature, and boy, are there people who eat bs with gluttony.
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  112. TT says:
    @ValmMond

    ’90s when Soviet collapsed & pillaged by West.
     
    No, just before.

    Militias are not what you imagine.
     
    I know what a militia is. Unless you live in Iceland, Iran, DPRK, India, Malaysia or Indonesia, your country is Ziowned. See my comments above.

    to be called up during emergency
     
    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles' re-enactment?

    Ok then you are a respectable ex-Soviet Union soldier.

    Im retired free man now from compulsory army service.

    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles’ re-enactment?

    Gawd know, gov leaders decide, juz as yours.

    All i wanted to say if you read my comment history is, all major war can be best prevented by nip the bud. Russia has allowed itself to slip slowly into abyss.

    The coordinated actions by Anglozionist is very systematic to bleed Russia in thousands cut. Cost is high in maintaining Syria grinding war, feeding ten millions soldiers & Syrians alone is astronomical.

    How much Russia can further tolerate humiliation & attacks before reaching boiling pt of escalating out of control or collapse into slavery, time will tell. Wish Russia all the best.

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    The "nip in bud" theory is an assumption you've made. One answer doesn't suit all situations. Putin doesn't want to win a war, he wants to avoid a war if possible. In case it's not possible, he knows that time is on his side as has been pointed out to you. The Russians have demonstrated diplomatic mastery whilst the US has shown diplomatic ineptitude.

    The "bleed Russia in thousands cut" is again just your understanding. Russia has so far not been substantially affected by sanctions and in many ways has benefitted. The US has squandered several trillions in the ME for zero benefit. Zero! Russia has gained much for a mere fraction of the cost. Securing Crimea and Tartus, pre-emptively working to secure its own underbelly, enhancing its reputation as a trustworthy nation of moral values, expanding the market for weapons necessary for self defence, what value would you place on these? I would suggest great value, especially in a world where lying, bullying nations like The US, UK, Israel, France, Australia and more see the UN and international laws as something to use or disregard as they see fit.

    As for your absurd claim that Russia has suffered humiliation, I would say that it is the US & Co who are constantly humiliating themselves and their people and you are showing immaturity by thinking as you do. Chill!
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  113. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East [...]. since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.

    [...] by removing Hussein’s regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.
     
    Do not remember great anti-war protests in Israel or too many Jewish talking heads trying to change the course of American policy from war to peace. It must have been because of great anti-Semitism which keeps Jews down in America and prevent them arguing their self-interest in public. So that nobody would accuse them of disloyalty out of fear in this anti-Semitic country they were forced to feign enthusiasm for all those wars that were only hurting Israel. Poor Jews.

    (same anon)

    Do not remember great anti-war protests in Israel

    Israel is a pretty small and nationalistic country, so that’s hardly surprising. I’m too young to personally (mis)remember news events from ~2003, but evidently some of the biggest protests against the war were in New York City, and no doubt Jews were very highly represented relative to their population share among protesters. (Incidentally, there’s a photograph of a young me at one of those protests with my Jewish parents, who were against the war.)

    or too many Jewish talking heads trying to change the course of American policy from war to peace.

    Again, while I have no personal memories of which pundits were most influential at which exact times, when I think of prominent American anti-war commentators, certainly there are quite a few Jews: Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, Eric Alterman, Howard Zinn, and so on. Matt Yglesias was initially for the war, but I think reversed his position rather quickly and became a trenchant critic of it. (His book “Heads in the Sand” is excellent, and thoroughly BTFO’s lots of neoconservative absurdities.)

    As far as American Jews as a whole go, according to Gallup they opposed the Iraq War more strongly than any other religious group, by 77-21, compared to 52-46 for the population as a whole. Obviously, American Jews also vote by considerable margins for the Democratic Party, and if Al Gore had been elected president in 2000 there wouldn’t have been an Iraq War. (Ironically, IIRC one of the factors that pushed Bush over the edge was that many elderly Jewish Florida voters accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan’s fringe third-party candidacy due to poorly designed ballots.)

    It must have been because of great anti-Semitism which keeps Jews down in America and prevent them arguing their self-interest in public. So that nobody would accuse them of disloyalty out of fear in this anti-Semitic country they were forced to feign enthusiasm for all those wars that were only hurting Israel. Poor Jews.

    Instead of responding to my actual arguments against what Ron Unz alleges is your air-tight case , you have to come up with a goofy and irrelevant strawman caricature. Sad!

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  114. TT says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    No offence chum but I'd bet that you wouldn't repeat a single word of that to any Russian's face. You probably mean well but goading Russia in this way is what teen schoolgirls do when they are testing their girlpower and want a sign from a schoolboy that he cares about them. It's just not helpful.

    History tells us that there's a price to pay when you fcuk with Russia, a big one. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, remember? Cheers

    Yes i agreed Russkies are the toughest fighter race not to mess with in history. But put some leaders like Yeltsin or Gorbachev will do much wonder. Putin is making all his abacus calculation, gawd know what he is up to.

    Look at how Merkel is screwing up her own people with rapefuges, an equivalent if not more mighty fighter race.

    Im not goading Russia into fight, but Putin’s strategy of appeasement is backfired in every occasion because West simply won’t accept a strong independent Russia to challenge their hedgmon. Be subjugated & get rape or be destroyed.

    PCR put it very well: “West will never accept Russian as equal white partner”. Nikki Haley said it more blantly: “Russia can never be our friend, we will slap as we want.”

    Putin is slowly losing hope & awaken to reality, like a broken heart girl been ditched by her most beloved man that simply hate her, giving her thousand cuts to bleed death. And she hated the forced marriage to the non white China man she so despised.

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.

    But history tell us a ditched woman is most dangerous when love turn hatred. Time will tell when petrol yuan grind the evil empire down, what a embittered Russian woman will avenge with her million cuts.

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    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.
     
    Not really. Not yet.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-18/putin-said-to-seek-trump-deal-even-after-sanctions-syria-attack
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  115. denk says:
    @Ivan
    The Indian Army is distinguished by its loyalty to its officer corps. The British were the officers, the Indians were the sepoys. No surprise then why countless Indians fought in WW I. But then service WW I was universally regarded as a test of manhood. Even tiny NZ suffered casualties in the 50,000 range.

    When the question of reintegrating the INA the small army led by SC Bose, who threw his lot with the Axis powers came up after the end of WWII, the then army commanders (and soldiers lower down the ranks) in what was already independent India, would have none of it since they - the soldiers of the INA - had committed the unforgivable crime of betraying their (British) officers.

    tsk tsk tsk…..
    Confession from the Indians of their undying love for Pax
    Britannica….
    Like I always say, Once a sepoy, always a sepoy.

    For that unflinching loyalty, the Indians were richly rewarded with a big chunk of Sino property from their anglo masters, the so-called Northeast, where the land belongs to mother indian, but the inhabitants dont.
    To tame these ‘chinki faced terrorists‘, the Indians were also gifted the AFSPA ‘anti insurgency’ law, literally a license to kill and rape in…[1]

    THE TIBET THAT NO ANGLOS AND INDIANS WANNA TALK ABOUT….

    While the country seems to heave a sigh of relief on the promulgation of an ordinance amending rape Law in India, people do not seem to be aware of the rape by The Indian Army, especially in the North East.

    Hiding behind Army’s impunity ans specially under AFSPA(Armed Forces Special Powers Act), the army never discloses authentic statistics and action take on these rape case, despite vociferous protests from the north East.

    security forces often rape women in Jammu & Kashmir and Manipur by talking the advantage of the draconian Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act (AFSPA). “Despite being well aware of the problem, the government is not doing anything to repeal AFSPA from the conflict ridden States. In the name of crushing Maoist movement, the government is planning to enforce AFSPA in Chattisgarh,”

    https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/rape-by-indian-army-hides-behind-afspa-amend/

    [1]
    chinki faced terrorists, easy prey for the jawans from the Indian heartland….

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ec9f52f7328afabf30794e819d8ccec2-c

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  116. Let’s just presume -for the sake of the argument-that most Jews were against the Iraq war. What matters is the 2% who take the decisions…or who tell those who are formally responsible for taking decisions what they should do…Unless you really believe that Clinton, Bush, Blair, Obama are destroying ME in the national interest of the USA. By the way, “jewish” responsible for the Iraq war even brag about it. Even if you are too young you can read about it. “If” …Is not an argument.
    If Trump had been elected president of the USA , relations with Russia and American wars of aggression would….wait….He was elected. Al Gore would have done what the masters of the war wanted. Last point: You are not “jewish”.Your religion-if you have one- doesn’t matter at all. Your humanity does. Those calling themselves jewish and killing in the name of the tribe are not jewish. They are criminals. Forget Noam Chomsky. The man is not honest. He sees no problem in voting for war criminals like Hilary Clinton because global warming is more important than a nuclear war. And everyone knows that HClinton cares a lot about environment. And Noam Chomsky believes in all the false flags…He is very “radical”….If you are naïve and incapable of thinking. Otherwise you will know that Chomsky is a fraud. Howard Zinn deserves our respect and admiration.

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    Where to even begin when responding to such a logically and stylistically impeccable comment? Unfortunately I have to leave soon, so my comment will be truncated for the sake, but perhaps I will return later to demonstrate some more of the flaws in your comment.

    Let’s just presume -for the sake of the argument-that most Jews were against the Iraq war.
     
    Actually, let's just accept as publicly verifiable fact that American Jews were more likely to oppose the Iraq War than most, if not indeed all, American ethnic or religious groups for which we have data. Let's please keep this relevant fact in mind we start talking about "Jews" and "the Jews" as a monolithic entity.

    What matters is the 2% who take the decisions…or who tell those who are formally responsible for taking decisions what they should do…Unless you really believe that Clinton, Bush, Blair, Obama are destroying ME in the national interest of the USA.
     
    Fallacious reasoning. Believing that the Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya wars were not fought for Israel's interests does not mean that you believe that they benefited America's interests.

    By the way, “jewish” responsible for the Iraq war even brag about it. Even if you are too young you can read about it.
     
    Oh, you mean the Jews like the president, vice-president, secretary of state, CIA director, secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Those Jews? Or is someone else besides the top ranking members of the American government and military responsible for invading Iraq? (In before "Yes---the Jews." Okay, unless Jews have magic mind control machines, how did/do they get officials elected in the vast majority by Gentiles to do their bidding?)
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  117. Erebus says:
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    Well, of course this analysis is entirely correct. Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any intelligent individual could honestly dispute it, though obviously vast numbers of unintelligent or dishonest people surely do....The only oddity is that since the “Bulgarians” have somehow managed to seize control of the governments of the U.S., Britain, and France, they’ve decided it’s safer and easier to get those other countries to fight their wars for them.
     
    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries. The Obama administration's negotiation of the Iran nuclear deal greatly angered Netanyahu, and the extensive US bombing campaign against ISIS has been a huge boon to the exhausted and over-stretched forces of the Assad government.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East---Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq---since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel. Afghanistan and Libya are distant from Israel, and posed no threat to its security. The US invasion of Iraq predictably massively increased Iranian influence in the Middle East by removing Hussein's regime as a counterweight, which has obviously proved highly contrary to Israeli interests.

    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries.

    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before “going to Tehran” makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they’ve been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East—Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq—since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.

    … illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.
    At the “end of history”, there was enough hubris permeating the air in Washington to make careful assessment, planning and disciplined execution unnecessary. “We’ll create our own reality”, they said, presumably intending to cobble it together from “known and unknown unknowns”.

    In the end, they didn’t know more than they thought they didn’t know.

    Net result is that not only Israel, but Washington’s Arab satrapies find themselves scrambling to come to terms with what the “New Middle East” is gonna look like. The USM may have a few 100 missile salvoes left in them, but having had its credibility destroyed, its military limits exposed, and its finances in doubt, the end of the M.E.’s Pax Americana has hove into view.

    A grand case of “Be careful what you wish (and lobby) for”.

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    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before “going to Tehran” makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they’ve been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.
     
    >Surrounding Iran

    In that case, why not simply ally with Saddam Hussein against Iran, the way that Israel, the US and many Gulf States basically are allied now? And in any case, neither Iraq or Afghanistan is a "friendly puppet" to the US; the Iraqi government is considered by many to be effectively an Iranian puppet, and Afghanistan's nominal government is completely dysfunctional and exercises little to no sovereignty outside areas with coalition troops.

    >bombing Syria

    Well, if by the "it" in "bombing it for quite a while now" you mean ISIS, a terrorist organization which contests the Assad government for control of Syria, then yes, we have, to the considerable benefit of the Assad government. If you mean "the Assad regime and its allies", then no the US has most definitely not been continually bombing "it", even though alleged false flag chemical attacks such as in Ghouta in 2013 would have given the US ample excuse/reason to do so if it desired. (Note that this was before the direct involvement of Russian forces in the conflict, which began in 2015.) The Trump administration's strikes against Assad's forces, while ill-advised in my view, are obviously mostly symbolic and have not meaningfully degraded the ability of the Assad government to wage war against forces opposed to it.

    If the US government was controlled by Israel and consequently manipulated to fight wars to benefit Israel, this would be a very bizarre course of action for our Israeli puppet-masters to dictate to us.


    … illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.
     
    Okay, but conspiracy theorists tend to focus on results (cui bono?), assume that those results imply some conjectured intent, and castigate those who disagree as idiots, dupes, et cetera, for not connecting the obvious, plain as the nose on your face, dots. (As indeed Ron Unz did above.) This is because there usually is no compelling evidence for the intent that conspiracy theorists wish to establish. (Which doesn't it mean it necessarily doesn't exist, to be clear!)

    This is certainly true in this case. The evidence for intent alone does not compel the conclusion that the US went to war in Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya for the benefit of Israel. I think the closest you can come is that some officials have said that Israel's security was a factor in the Iraq War, but many more officials have cited multiple other factors (e.g. democracy promotion or dealing with rogue states) as the intent for invading Iraq, and denied that protecting Israel was a factor, so directly establishing intent to invade Iraq for Israel's benefit is, to say the least, very difficult. (Another way of looking at it is---if American politicians and the US media are completely in thrall to Israel, and the masses are ignorant and easily brain-washed, why wouldn't they just come out and say that they were invading countries to benefit Our Greatest Ally, at least as one reason among many?)

    This is why proponents of this view have to argue that the results of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have been to the benefit of Israel, and why I rebutted this claim above.

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  118. denk says:
    @TT
    That chart is pure BS. If intelligent means more honest, than Jews should top the chart.

    As a Anglophile like you, my experience with English people is generally good, they are bright, honest & well manner compare to other European & murkans. But not their hypocrite lying leaders. Their widespread paedophiles is surprising since they are traditionally more conservative.

    West & US is in a self destruction mode. They are their own biggest enemies, not Russians or Chinese.

    I was once an anglophile,
    But over the years I’ve come to realise that fukusIndia have been an existential threat to China the Chinese race ever since the Opium war.

    History speaks for itself…

    Opium war,
    Eight nations alliance,
    Covert war in Tibet 1959,
    Proxy war by India, 1962, [aka 'Chinese invasion of India']
    Proxy war by TW, since 1949,
    Covert war in Tibet 2008 [aka 'genocide in Tibet]
    Covert war in Xinjiang 2009 [aka 'genocide in Xinjiang]
    Proxy war by Jp IN ECS since 2012
    Proxy war by Ph etc in SCS since 2013 [aka 'China the bully in SCS']
    Proxy war by India since 2005
    BIowar via sars, bird flu….
    Trade war 2018
    Covert war 1989 [aka 'TAM massacre']
    Covert war via terrorism/regime change in Africa, Afpak, SEA…..
    GENOCIDE IN INDONESIA, 1965, 1998

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do ‘honest, decent, ‘ people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese

    Bomb them back to stone ages
    [fukusI fav sports]

    This is how the anglos remember the Opium war…
    We and our jawans whacked 20k chinks in the Opium war alone !
    [how brave, rifles, cannons vs arrows and bows]

    No apology, No regret, no remorse,

    Guess what , the bandits are crying out robbery ,…again…

    China is an existential threat to the ‘rule based‘ international order,
    , meaning the five lies and their Indian sepoys , aka fukusIndia !

    hehehehhe

    West & US is in a self destruction mode.

    If only its true…

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    Wow, you have all their evil deeds all carved on iron plate huh?

    You should make a nice template & share with me. Whenever these liars smear or lies, i can juz copy & paste.

    Although im not from China, but their vision & fair way of dealing, esp under Prez Xi, give me hope. I might consider move to China in later. Its not so safe elsewhere under new US subversion tool via terrorism.

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do ‘honest, decent, ‘ people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??
     
    Still i believe that, tho at times i like to poke some murkans & anglos for fun. See how my gov are also working with FUKUS India to sabotage China Bri & SCS with shameless lies, sanctioned NK, spread West & Indian msm propaganda, championed TTP, brainwashed us with msm lies …but quite a number like me are gradually awaken to it. But majority drones don't, they regurgitate same lies, & same gov is elected term after term with high vote.

    Anyhow, CIA-USAid & G.Soros-Open Society are caught recently trying to infiltrate my country by sponsoring some treason people to start a social site, likely for future color revolution. That is how they reward their best ally.

    EU is already been sabotaged after their Euro & combined GDP threaten US hegemony. Jp Abe will be disposed for not joining US trade war with China. Korea ex-Prez are all under political persecution now. Oz Turnbull & India Modi will get their turn soon.

    Kissinger is right to say "To be US enemies is dangerous. To be US friends is fatal."
    , @renfro

    why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??
    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese
     
    Let me say it again...Fuck the Chinese...if it was up to me I would beat you motherfuckers with bats and then set you on fire before you are dead just like you primitive scum do to dogs.


    Yulin Dog Meat Festival 2016: 10,000 dogs to be killed and eaten at ...
    https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Asia
    Jun 21, 2016 - China's annual Yulin festival, in which thousands of dogs and cats will be murdered and eaten, has begun despite widespread international condemnation. An estimated 10,000 dogs and cats are expected to be used for meat during the 10 days of the festival, which takes place at Guangxi Zhuang

    Images for chinese dog killing festival
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  119. @TT
    Ok then you are a respectable ex-Soviet Union soldier.

    Im retired free man now from compulsory army service.

    And what would that emergency be? Historic battles’ re-enactment?
     
    Gawd know, gov leaders decide, juz as yours.

    All i wanted to say if you read my comment history is, all major war can be best prevented by nip the bud. Russia has allowed itself to slip slowly into abyss.

    The coordinated actions by Anglozionist is very systematic to bleed Russia in thousands cut. Cost is high in maintaining Syria grinding war, feeding ten millions soldiers & Syrians alone is astronomical.

    How much Russia can further tolerate humiliation & attacks before reaching boiling pt of escalating out of control or collapse into slavery, time will tell. Wish Russia all the best.

    The “nip in bud” theory is an assumption you’ve made. One answer doesn’t suit all situations. Putin doesn’t want to win a war, he wants to avoid a war if possible. In case it’s not possible, he knows that time is on his side as has been pointed out to you. The Russians have demonstrated diplomatic mastery whilst the US has shown diplomatic ineptitude.

    The “bleed Russia in thousands cut” is again just your understanding. Russia has so far not been substantially affected by sanctions and in many ways has benefitted. The US has squandered several trillions in the ME for zero benefit. Zero! Russia has gained much for a mere fraction of the cost. Securing Crimea and Tartus, pre-emptively working to secure its own underbelly, enhancing its reputation as a trustworthy nation of moral values, expanding the market for weapons necessary for self defence, what value would you place on these? I would suggest great value, especially in a world where lying, bullying nations like The US, UK, Israel, France, Australia and more see the UN and international laws as something to use or disregard as they see fit.

    As for your absurd claim that Russia has suffered humiliation, I would say that it is the US & Co who are constantly humiliating themselves and their people and you are showing immaturity by thinking as you do. Chill!

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    Indeed Russians diplomatic skills are excellent, so are their impressive counter propaganda war that scared the West into censoring all RT with Russophobia clown circus show. China has much to learn from Russia on these area.

    But the magnitude West have been insulting Russia & demonized Putin with blatant lies & smearing, imposing insultive sanction & confiscation of diplomat assets, making open threat to kill as many Russians by high level leaders(which they did in Syria), are all unprecedented, tantamount to war declaration. Hence these are what i means humiliation. Why stating facts is absurd?

    Of course i know Putin is a grand chess master with deep thinking & great patient, weighing every minute move to survive the West onslaught, Ukraine & Syria war are stella showcase of Russia sophistication.

    But i simply find disgust(annoying) with their exceeding hypocrite "partner" appeasing approach, cooperating in strategic issues when themselves are under severe attack. Isn't it a joke to back NK unjustified sanction when Russia ownself is under West sanction on false accusation?

    Even long time russophile PCR can't stand Russia's undying wish to be with the West that he wrote many articles to dig on her.

    Andrei Martyanov had highlighted in one of his article about Russia FM speech on White European Christian value, Wasp, is something one can get some insigh into Putin's team thinking why they are dying to be with the white West.

    My nip-on-bud strategy is observed carefully from how China, NK & Iran applied consistently to call West bluffs & keep their aggression at bay successfully.

    Great warfare strategist Mao had coined a very good term for USM - Paper Tiger, as it will only bully those who can't/willing to fight back. China earned its credibility in Korea war, and demonstrated again in last year high profile confrontation in SCS with its whole Navy(Chief Cdr on board), and nuke sub sent to threaten US bases.

    That scared the hell out of US two strike groups into hidding at East Philippine, with Obama despatching his chief general & NSA advisor Rice to visit China for settlement. You probably didn't get to read that as West msm had gone completely blackout.

    West has never dare to clash with China & NK directly for last 50yrs because they know the price is too unbearable heavy. So is Iran's steely will to carry out their threat to take out all US ME assets & bases, put Israel in hell, should US strike.

    Many USM generals including mad dog Mattis openly reckoned US has no stomach for a NK war with 10M casualties. Pompeo also clearly said its too heavy price to consider even striking Iran(if my memory didn't fail me). But all find killing maximum Russians is best way to deter/punish Russia from resisting West menace.

    Russia has superior conventional & nuclear deterrent that no country will want direct confrontation. That's why USN declared they haven't consider doing FON in North Pole sealanes when US demanded for their usage recently.

    But Russia regularly been called bluff by US has emboldened West to up the ante, causing many unnecessary casualties & delay of war closure in both Syria & Ukraine. Politicians like Obama/Trumps & Putin can lied shamelessly, but not a General. When a chief General drawn a red line infront the world, he must carry out so that enemy will respect. Otherwise the army lost all credibility to lead/fight a war. And to not defending allies under open West unjustifiable attack has truly damaged Russia credibility & trustworthiness.

    Putin can always demand a retaliation strike to empty Israel airfield & a few UK/Fr warplanes to upkeep his General credibility, in return for permitting US strike without sinking its carrier. But he eat humble pie, like Soviet clumsy handling of Cuba crisis that short change SU into having US placing new nuke at its border whiile it gave up Cuba. SU also failed to give its ally Cuba guarantee of nuclear protection that US provide to Nato.

    I have explained much on various comments on my view backing with facts, logics and true case studies.

    You & other zealous Russophiles may have your own views. But i don't think its fair that you category remarked mine as absurd or naive school girl yearning for boy attention. In fact, you have mostly speak on your view based on feeling, without any insightful strategy.

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  120. Vojkan says:
    @Mike P
    Largely agree - it is hard to imagine a more volatile and self-centred politician than Erdogan. Still, it speaks for itself that the US managed to lose him and Putin to bring him onside (for now).

    The arctic has melted before and will refreeze. Right now, there are two inches of global warming covering my lawn here in southern Ontario. "Climate change" is just another silly mind control gimmick - you know it's BS if the mass media push it relentlessly with scare stories that are just as phony as those recent gas attacks. A good site to read about these things is wattsupwiththat.com.

    It’s global warming and yet I burnt 1 cubic meter more wood last winter and for the second time in three years will eat no apricots because of a late March deep freeze, that didn’t happen once in 25 years before that. When you believe the media instead of your own experience and sense, you can be made to eat a lot of bs like global warming, Iraqi WMD, the Skripals poisoning, Assad gas attacks, how GMOs will feed the world, how it is good to poison toddlers’ with Al and Hg to vaccinate them against diseases they’re as likely to get as being killed by a meteorite etc.
    I occasionally take a glance at Western MSM sites comments sections, just to gauge temperature, and boy, are there people who eat bs with gluttony.

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  121. utu says:
    @TT
    Yes i agreed Russkies are the toughest fighter race not to mess with in history. But put some leaders like Yeltsin or Gorbachev will do much wonder. Putin is making all his abacus calculation, gawd know what he is up to.

    Look at how Merkel is screwing up her own people with rapefuges, an equivalent if not more mighty fighter race.

    Im not goading Russia into fight, but Putin's strategy of appeasement is backfired in every occasion because West simply won't accept a strong independent Russia to challenge their hedgmon. Be subjugated & get rape or be destroyed.

    PCR put it very well: "West will never accept Russian as equal white partner". Nikki Haley said it more blantly: "Russia can never be our friend, we will slap as we want."

    Putin is slowly losing hope & awaken to reality, like a broken heart girl been ditched by her most beloved man that simply hate her, giving her thousand cuts to bleed death. And she hated the forced marriage to the non white China man she so despised.

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.

    But history tell us a ditched woman is most dangerous when love turn hatred. Time will tell when petrol yuan grind the evil empire down, what a embittered Russian woman will avenge with her million cuts.

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.

    Not really. Not yet.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-18/putin-said-to-seek-trump-deal-even-after-sanctions-syria-attack

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    Well, given that the latest attack on Syria achieved exactly nothing, maybe what Putin is trying to say, "what you do serves no purpose, you can't invert the dynamics in Syria, maybe you should gather back your senses and start behaving normal". In my opinion, if he means it then he's naive, if he's just buying the time necessary to render the West irrelevant to Russia then he's doing right b/c WW3 now would be a huge distraction from achieving that goal.
    , @TT
    That's informative. When the country is in crisis, Putin's oligarchs take priority.

    But Bloomberg source itself tells us something:

    When the West msm said something bad about their enemy, take it with a pinch of salt. When they said good, its most likely trustable only if that isn't on someone selling out the country interest, eg west much praise to Russia Yeltsin, Ukraine Poronshit, UK Blair/May/Boris, German Merkel, Fr Sarkosky/Macron…

    Putin's undying love to be with the West is faithful & time tested. She deserved the true love of her beloved west white man.

    But…but.. reality is always cruel. The poor white conman simply despise her as unequal Eastern pale skin in wishing her total destruction. Yet the wealthy yellow China man she despise treat her so well that she couldn't refuse the marriage forced upon her.

    Will she divorce her faithful China man one day? Only when the White man could give her a smile, that's all she want. Why can't the West White man understand. She is ready to give everything as dowry, rockets, aerospace, titanium, hypersonic, joint hydrocarbon exploration, you name it.

    Looking at Putin highly selective alliance, no technology sharing of jet engine, aircraft carrier, nuclear sub, hypersonic, rockets…while request joint venture on China successful area with huge domestic market - 5th Gen Stealth J20, C929 wide body, UAV, space exploration, Beidou GPS, oil&gas,…indeed her heart is never with China man.

    So China man is flirting with another more faithful wealthy German lady who declared no more restriction on China FDI. Love life is always so complicated.
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  122. Vojkan says:
    @utu

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.
     
    Not really. Not yet.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-18/putin-said-to-seek-trump-deal-even-after-sanctions-syria-attack

    Well, given that the latest attack on Syria achieved exactly nothing, maybe what Putin is trying to say, “what you do serves no purpose, you can’t invert the dynamics in Syria, maybe you should gather back your senses and start behaving normal”. In my opinion, if he means it then he’s naive, if he’s just buying the time necessary to render the West irrelevant to Russia then he’s doing right b/c WW3 now would be a huge distraction from achieving that goal.

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    Russia's mission is not the liberate the West from their current rulers. I don't see the purpose of pulling people out of their crap if they enjoy bathing in it.
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  123. Vojkan says:
    @Vojkan
    Well, given that the latest attack on Syria achieved exactly nothing, maybe what Putin is trying to say, "what you do serves no purpose, you can't invert the dynamics in Syria, maybe you should gather back your senses and start behaving normal". In my opinion, if he means it then he's naive, if he's just buying the time necessary to render the West irrelevant to Russia then he's doing right b/c WW3 now would be a huge distraction from achieving that goal.

    Russia’s mission is not the liberate the West from their current rulers. I don’t see the purpose of pulling people out of their crap if they enjoy bathing in it.

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  124. TT says:
    @denk
    I was once an anglophile,
    But over the years I've come to realise that fukusIndia have been an existential threat to China the Chinese race ever since the Opium war.

    History speaks for itself...

    Opium war,
    Eight nations alliance,
    Covert war in Tibet 1959,
    Proxy war by India, 1962, [aka 'Chinese invasion of India']
    Proxy war by TW, since 1949,
    Covert war in Tibet 2008 [aka 'genocide in Tibet]
    Covert war in Xinjiang 2009 [aka 'genocide in Xinjiang]
    Proxy war by Jp IN ECS since 2012
    Proxy war by Ph etc in SCS since 2013 [aka 'China the bully in SCS']
    Proxy war by India since 2005
    BIowar via sars, bird flu....
    Trade war 2018
    Covert war 1989 [aka 'TAM massacre']
    Covert war via terrorism/regime change in Africa, Afpak, SEA.....
    GENOCIDE IN INDONESIA, 1965, 1998

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do 'honest, decent, ' people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese

    Bomb them back to stone ages
    [fukusI fav sports]

    This is how the anglos remember the Opium war...
    We and our jawans whacked 20k chinks in the Opium war alone !
    [how brave, rifles, cannons vs arrows and bows]

    No apology, No regret, no remorse,

    Guess what , the bandits are crying out robbery ,...again...

    China is an existential threat to the 'rule based' international order,
    , meaning the five lies and their Indian sepoys , aka fukusIndia !
     
    hehehehhe

    West & US is in a self destruction mode.
     
    If only its true...

    Wow, you have all their evil deeds all carved on iron plate huh?

    You should make a nice template & share with me. Whenever these liars smear or lies, i can juz copy & paste.

    Although im not from China, but their vision & fair way of dealing, esp under Prez Xi, give me hope. I might consider move to China in later. Its not so safe elsewhere under new US subversion tool via terrorism.

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do ‘honest, decent, ‘ people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??

    Still i believe that, tho at times i like to poke some murkans & anglos for fun. See how my gov are also working with FUKUS India to sabotage China Bri & SCS with shameless lies, sanctioned NK, spread West & Indian msm propaganda, championed TTP, brainwashed us with msm lies …but quite a number like me are gradually awaken to it. But majority drones don’t, they regurgitate same lies, & same gov is elected term after term with high vote.

    Anyhow, CIA-USAid & G.Soros-Open Society are caught recently trying to infiltrate my country by sponsoring some treason people to start a social site, likely for future color revolution. That is how they reward their best ally.

    EU is already been sabotaged after their Euro & combined GDP threaten US hegemony. Jp Abe will be disposed for not joining US trade war with China. Korea ex-Prez are all under political persecution now. Oz Turnbull & India Modi will get their turn soon.

    Kissinger is right to say “To be US enemies is dangerous. To be US friends is fatal.”

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  125. TT says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    The "nip in bud" theory is an assumption you've made. One answer doesn't suit all situations. Putin doesn't want to win a war, he wants to avoid a war if possible. In case it's not possible, he knows that time is on his side as has been pointed out to you. The Russians have demonstrated diplomatic mastery whilst the US has shown diplomatic ineptitude.

    The "bleed Russia in thousands cut" is again just your understanding. Russia has so far not been substantially affected by sanctions and in many ways has benefitted. The US has squandered several trillions in the ME for zero benefit. Zero! Russia has gained much for a mere fraction of the cost. Securing Crimea and Tartus, pre-emptively working to secure its own underbelly, enhancing its reputation as a trustworthy nation of moral values, expanding the market for weapons necessary for self defence, what value would you place on these? I would suggest great value, especially in a world where lying, bullying nations like The US, UK, Israel, France, Australia and more see the UN and international laws as something to use or disregard as they see fit.

    As for your absurd claim that Russia has suffered humiliation, I would say that it is the US & Co who are constantly humiliating themselves and their people and you are showing immaturity by thinking as you do. Chill!

    Indeed Russians diplomatic skills are excellent, so are their impressive counter propaganda war that scared the West into censoring all RT with Russophobia clown circus show. China has much to learn from Russia on these area.

    But the magnitude West have been insulting Russia & demonized Putin with blatant lies & smearing, imposing insultive sanction & confiscation of diplomat assets, making open threat to kill as many Russians by high level leaders(which they did in Syria), are all unprecedented, tantamount to war declaration. Hence these are what i means humiliation. Why stating facts is absurd?

    Of course i know Putin is a grand chess master with deep thinking & great patient, weighing every minute move to survive the West onslaught, Ukraine & Syria war are stella showcase of Russia sophistication.

    But i simply find disgust(annoying) with their exceeding hypocrite “partner” appeasing approach, cooperating in strategic issues when themselves are under severe attack. Isn’t it a joke to back NK unjustified sanction when Russia ownself is under West sanction on false accusation?

    Even long time russophile PCR can’t stand Russia’s undying wish to be with the West that he wrote many articles to dig on her.

    Andrei Martyanov had highlighted in one of his article about Russia FM speech on White European Christian value, Wasp, is something one can get some insigh into Putin’s team thinking why they are dying to be with the white West.

    My nip-on-bud strategy is observed carefully from how China, NK & Iran applied consistently to call West bluffs & keep their aggression at bay successfully.

    Great warfare strategist Mao had coined a very good term for USM – Paper Tiger, as it will only bully those who can’t/willing to fight back. China earned its credibility in Korea war, and demonstrated again in last year high profile confrontation in SCS with its whole Navy(Chief Cdr on board), and nuke sub sent to threaten US bases.

    That scared the hell out of US two strike groups into hidding at East Philippine, with Obama despatching his chief general & NSA advisor Rice to visit China for settlement. You probably didn’t get to read that as West msm had gone completely blackout.

    West has never dare to clash with China & NK directly for last 50yrs because they know the price is too unbearable heavy. So is Iran’s steely will to carry out their threat to take out all US ME assets & bases, put Israel in hell, should US strike.

    Many USM generals including mad dog Mattis openly reckoned US has no stomach for a NK war with 10M casualties. Pompeo also clearly said its too heavy price to consider even striking Iran(if my memory didn’t fail me). But all find killing maximum Russians is best way to deter/punish Russia from resisting West menace.

    Russia has superior conventional & nuclear deterrent that no country will want direct confrontation. That’s why USN declared they haven’t consider doing FON in North Pole sealanes when US demanded for their usage recently.

    But Russia regularly been called bluff by US has emboldened West to up the ante, causing many unnecessary casualties & delay of war closure in both Syria & Ukraine. Politicians like Obama/Trumps & Putin can lied shamelessly, but not a General. When a chief General drawn a red line infront the world, he must carry out so that enemy will respect. Otherwise the army lost all credibility to lead/fight a war. And to not defending allies under open West unjustifiable attack has truly damaged Russia credibility & trustworthiness.

    Putin can always demand a retaliation strike to empty Israel airfield & a few UK/Fr warplanes to upkeep his General credibility, in return for permitting US strike without sinking its carrier. But he eat humble pie, like Soviet clumsy handling of Cuba crisis that short change SU into having US placing new nuke at its border whiile it gave up Cuba. SU also failed to give its ally Cuba guarantee of nuclear protection that US provide to Nato.

    I have explained much on various comments on my view backing with facts, logics and true case studies.

    You & other zealous Russophiles may have your own views. But i don’t think its fair that you category remarked mine as absurd or naive school girl yearning for boy attention. In fact, you have mostly speak on your view based on feeling, without any insightful strategy.

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    I am truly sorry that my comparison of your attitude to that of a schoolgirl hurt you feelings so much but do please keep your skirt on and don't get your knickers in a twist.

    FWIW, I am not a Russiaphile nor a Sinophobe, I would hope that those and all nations coexist peacefully and deal with one another earnestly and fairly for the betterment of their people and not for the greedy and immoral 1%. I trust we can agree on that. Cheers
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  126. TT says:
    @utu

    So humiliated, Russian girl finally whispered her belated wish to block aerospace co-op, rockets & titanium export to her West partner, in agony like a parting shot.
     
    Not really. Not yet.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-18/putin-said-to-seek-trump-deal-even-after-sanctions-syria-attack

    That’s informative. When the country is in crisis, Putin’s oligarchs take priority.

    But Bloomberg source itself tells us something:

    When the West msm said something bad about their enemy, take it with a pinch of salt. When they said good, its most likely trustable only if that isn’t on someone selling out the country interest, eg west much praise to Russia Yeltsin, Ukraine Poronshit, UK Blair/May/Boris, German Merkel, Fr Sarkosky/Macron…

    Putin’s undying love to be with the West is faithful & time tested. She deserved the true love of her beloved west white man.

    But…but.. reality is always cruel. The poor white conman simply despise her as unequal Eastern pale skin in wishing her total destruction. Yet the wealthy yellow China man she despise treat her so well that she couldn’t refuse the marriage forced upon her.

    Will she divorce her faithful China man one day? Only when the White man could give her a smile, that’s all she want. Why can’t the West White man understand. She is ready to give everything as dowry, rockets, aerospace, titanium, hypersonic, joint hydrocarbon exploration, you name it.

    Looking at Putin highly selective alliance, no technology sharing of jet engine, aircraft carrier, nuclear sub, hypersonic, rockets…while request joint venture on China successful area with huge domestic market – 5th Gen Stealth J20, C929 wide body, UAV, space exploration, Beidou GPS, oil&gas,…indeed her heart is never with China man.

    So China man is flirting with another more faithful wealthy German lady who declared no more restriction on China FDI. Love life is always so complicated.

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  127. K. A. says:

    Crown Bulldog Attacks Syria

    Excerpt:

    ”Yes, you read that right, he said the UK. Not the US, not Israel, not Saudi Arabia, but the UK. Those of you familiar with my writing know that I am constantly pointing my finger at the City of London for the lies, deception, and wars which dominate the headlines of their propaganda rags.

    The lies are so constant that it is difficult for most people to sort out. But it seems the Russians are beginning to understand this biggest lie of all – that somehow the US-UK “special relationship” features the US as senior partner.

    It’s just the opposite. The Crown-controlled City of London calls the shots.

    Even the anti-war left’s constant portrayal of Tony Blair as a poodle of George Bush was a well-placed lie. Bush was, in fact, playing the usual role of any US President- a well-compensated bulldog protecting his Freemason higher-ups in the Crown and their City of London banking lair.

    The pattern is always the same.

    The Crown’s MI6 creates the pretext – whether tales of yellowcake uranium in Iraq which led to the US invasion, the Skripal “poisoning” in Salisbury.”

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/crown-bulldog-attacks-syria/

    Brexit (note):

    Cryptocurrencies, blockchain among subjects to be raised at Cbonds-organised forum in London

    Posted on April 9, 2018

    ”Cryptocurrencies and blockchain, which are the “in-thing” in financial markets across the world today, will be among numerous subjects to be raised at the VII Cbonds Emerging Markets Bond Conference in London on April 19-20, organised by St Petersburg-based financial information company Cbonds.

    Dohyung “DH” Kim, chief executive of Canada-based blockchain-powered securities exchange Finhaven Technology, will be one of the two speakers at a session entitled “BondTech – how will new technologies change bond markets? Bonds on blockchain, crypto-currencies, etc.”

    The theme of his presentation is “the efficiency of bond markets and blockchain technology”.

    [...]

    The participants include about 90 companies, including Societe Generale, Credit Agricole, Raiffeisenbank, UniCredit, Allianz Global Investors, AXA Investment Managers, VTB Capital, and Renaissance Capital.

    The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, central banks, Moscow Exchange and Kazakhstan Stock Exchange will also be taking part.

    http://emergingmarkets.me/cryptocurrencies-blockchain-among-subjects-to-be-raised-at-cbonds-organised-forum-in-london/

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  128. renfro says:
    @denk
    I was once an anglophile,
    But over the years I've come to realise that fukusIndia have been an existential threat to China the Chinese race ever since the Opium war.

    History speaks for itself...

    Opium war,
    Eight nations alliance,
    Covert war in Tibet 1959,
    Proxy war by India, 1962, [aka 'Chinese invasion of India']
    Proxy war by TW, since 1949,
    Covert war in Tibet 2008 [aka 'genocide in Tibet]
    Covert war in Xinjiang 2009 [aka 'genocide in Xinjiang]
    Proxy war by Jp IN ECS since 2012
    Proxy war by Ph etc in SCS since 2013 [aka 'China the bully in SCS']
    Proxy war by India since 2005
    BIowar via sars, bird flu....
    Trade war 2018
    Covert war 1989 [aka 'TAM massacre']
    Covert war via terrorism/regime change in Africa, Afpak, SEA.....
    GENOCIDE IN INDONESIA, 1965, 1998

    One might say we should differentiate bet the people and the govn, but why do 'honest, decent, ' people keep electing sinophobic assholes as leaders in FUKUSIndia , why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??

    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese

    Bomb them back to stone ages
    [fukusI fav sports]

    This is how the anglos remember the Opium war...
    We and our jawans whacked 20k chinks in the Opium war alone !
    [how brave, rifles, cannons vs arrows and bows]

    No apology, No regret, no remorse,

    Guess what , the bandits are crying out robbery ,...again...

    China is an existential threat to the 'rule based' international order,
    , meaning the five lies and their Indian sepoys , aka fukusIndia !
     
    hehehehhe

    West & US is in a self destruction mode.
     
    If only its true...

    why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??
    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese

    Let me say it again…Fuck the Chinese…if it was up to me I would beat you motherfuckers with bats and then set you on fire before you are dead just like you primitive scum do to dogs.

    Yulin Dog Meat Festival 2016: 10,000 dogs to be killed and eaten at …
    https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Asia
    Jun 21, 2016 – China’s annual Yulin festival, in which thousands of dogs and cats will be murdered and eaten, has begun despite widespread international condemnation. An estimated 10,000 dogs and cats are expected to be used for meat during the 10 days of the festival, which takes place at Guangxi Zhuang

    Images for chinese dog killing festival

    https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+dog+killing+festival&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ_fGfr8TaAhUCY6wKHRkXAq4Q7AkIQQ&biw=800&bih=475

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    Wow powerful.

    So what you gonna do to those Anglos-Americans-Franco-Israelis who slaughtered many millions of Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Yemenis, Iranians, Palestinian, Lebanons, Koreans, Viet, Indians, Japanese, Mexicans, Indonesian, Philippines, Burmese, Cambodian, Nepalese, Sri Lankans, South Africans, Africans, South Americans, Serbs, Russians, …nearly the whole world have been invaded by this axis of evils.

    Are these tens of millions human less worthy than those dogs Chinese eat them as food thousand years ago(domesticated from wolves) like we eat pork or beef?

    It must be ok if we whites do it, killing billions of animals to fill our stomach, slaughter millions of innocent humans to enrich our deep states, using thousands of dogs & monkeys for cruel pharmaceutical testing.

    Where are you renfro, with your mighty bats smashing each of these murderers, ooohhh so heroic & justice. What a hypocrite we people, they kill dogs for food traditionally, your boys kill innocent people for $, our butcher killed cattles & poultry for our feast.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grande_Boucherie_Canine_a_Paris.jpg

    How many countries are eating dog meat traditionally. Not just China, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, Africans,…, a long list. You killing all or only Chinese as an ad homein excuse!?

    History of dog eating
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

    Koreans Dogs & Cats Eating Festival
    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/inside-south-koreas-dogeating-festival-where-suspicion-myth-and-cruelty-meet/news-story/ebb5d3a0af74096189cc21f5aaea96c4


    So before people point the finger and label the South Korean practice as savagery, Ms Fryer urges us to look at our own eating habits.

    “The thought of killing, cooking, dismembering, and eating dogs is enough for most of us to lose our lunch, but there’s no rational reason why that same revulsion shouldn’t arise at the thought of eating a pig or any other animal,” she said.

    “All animals about to be slaughtered feel terrified, and none wants to die. Right here in Australia, scared lambs, chickens, cows, and pigs are killed as we wilfully turn a blind eye to the fact that they’re no different from the dogs we cry for. It’s easy to point the finger at other cultures, but let’s be honest and decent enough to question our own cruel habits.”
     
    https://fightdogmeat.com/2016/07/20/south-korea-boknal-my-experience-at-the-dog-meat-festival/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat_consumption_in_South_Korea

    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/dog-meat-south-korea-olympics-explainer-spd/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi8-Yj7rMbaAhUQSo8KHYqgB4IQFjAPegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2I3mFh-BPwviHcrL8bsPNX

    Vietnam Dog & Cat Eating Festival
    https://fightdogmeat.com/2017/12/23/vietnam-cat-meat-christmas-vietnam/
    Vietnam & SK Christians are biggest customers, they celebrate Christmas & church activities with live dogs & cats meats.

    Start from putting away all your warmongers politicians. Stop eating meats. Then we talk about how to convince Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, Africans, & the rest to give up their traditional delicacy.
    , @TT
    Be patient, Chinese is very status conscious & pragmatic. They will stop/regulate dogs (& cats) eating at some time when been repeatedly highlighted that its not inline with the world civilization view.

    They have already outlawed ivory trading completely even that was their ancient fine arts, prohibited rhinoceros horn & Tiger parts medicinal usage, discourage sharkfin, prohibited netting of migrating birds, clean up pollutions, promoting sustainable organic farming, reforestation, green energy, etc.

    These are very promising signs. They need to be encourage, not shame or admonish as they deem that's as their few thousands traditional value like we eat pork/beef. SKoreans are more difficult, even their Prez was not able to make them suspend dog eating during Olympics.

    To have any moral value to do that, we must first clean up our own backyards of slaughtering stray dogs & cats, stop using animals for cruel experiment, and absolutely termina West endless wars & killings with all war criminals charged in ICJ(not for yellow & black skins only).

    Only then, we are fit to tell others what is deemed civilized behavior.
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  129. annamaria says:
    @James Brown
    You're right but you should not forget that the man was once a professional liar, known also as a diplomat. Once a diplomat, always a diplomat.
    But even Putin and his team call the criminals and real terrorists "our western partners".
    Putin's best friend and probably his boss, Israel's PM, he's a well known criminal and terrorist.
    So, as you can see, things are a little bit more complicated.
    And I'm not sure, if Putin is being just diplomatic. It seems, more and more we see/hear from the people who have been destroying Syria and are preparing to destroy Iran, that Putin is being sincere. Maybe things are not what they seem.
    Maybe the opposition (Russia/Putin) is controlled opposition.
    If that isn't the case, why Putin refuses to sell to the Iranians and the Syrians weapons so they can defend themselves?
    Why does he let disgusting little Napoleon(Macron) and the slut following in the footstep of the war criminal Churchill to humiliate him and the Russian people ?

    Perhaps you are not an 18-year-old yet. Just try to sort out your grievances. When you approach, at least to some degree, the acknowledged honesty and courage of Craig Murray, then you would have some foundations for your statements about his honesty. For now, these your statements are just slanderous accusations.
    Meanwhile, here is an important reporting by a real super-mensch who happened to be a woman:
    “Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down,” By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva
    “Porton Down is just one of the Pentagon-funded military laboratories in 25 countries across the world, where the US Army produces and tests man-made viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN convention. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.
    The Pentagon-funded military facilities are not under the direct control of the host state as the US military and civilian personnel is working under diplomatic cover. The local governments are prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the foreign military program running on their own territory.”
    – Next to the Dilyana Gaytandzhieva’s courageous and meticulous reporting, the MSM corps of journalists of male persuasion looks like a community of moral eunuchs and intellectually impotent opportunists

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    You just read one post. I have already corrected my mistake. You can read it in the post below the "main" post. I immediately realized that I wasn't being fair with a great and decent man.
    I have great admiration and respect for Mr Craig Murray and his work.
    It's a pity that he's an exception in the British Establishment and that warmongers and criminals like Blair and the clown Boris are the rule.
    , @RobinG
    Here's the link -

    https://southfront.org/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-reveals-70-million-pentagon-program-porton/
    Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian investigative journalist and Middle East Correspondent. Her current report provides an overview of the Pentagon-funded experiments at the secretive UK military laboratory Porton Down....
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  130. T. h-L. says:

    The Lockerbie Case

    The culprit has swayed with the immediate need for a villain

    [What follows is excerpted from an article headlined Robert Mueller's Questionable Past that appeared yesterday on the American Free Press website:]

    During his tenure with the Justice Department under President George H W Bush, Mueller supervised the prosecutions of Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega, the Lockerbie bombing (Pan Am Flight 103) case, and Gambino crime boss John Gotti. In the Noriega case, Mueller ignored the ties to the Bush family that Victor Thorn illustrated in Hillary (and Bill): The Drugs Volume: Part Two of the Clinton Trilogy. Noriega had long been associated with CIA operations that involved drug smuggling, money laundering, and arms running. Thorn significantly links Noriega to Bush family involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal.

    Regarding Pan Am Flight 103, the culprit has swayed with the immediate need for a villain. Pro-Palestinian activists, Libyans, and Iranians have all officially been blamed when US intelligence and the mainstream mass media needed to paint each as the antagonist to American freedom. Mueller toed the line, publicly ignoring rumors that agents onboard were said to have learned that a CIA drug-smuggling operation was afoot in conjunction with Pan Am flights. According to the theory, the agents were going to take their questions to Congress upon landing. The flight blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland.

    Police inquiry into Lockerbie bombing claims coming to conclusion

    [This is the headline over a report published in today's edition of The Scotsman. It reads in part:]

    Campaigners for the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing believe a long-running police investigation is finally nearing its end.

    Police Scotland is examining allegations made by the Justice for Megrahi (JFM) group about the prosecution of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi. (…)

    Officers started a probe – Operation Sandwood – in February 2014 after JFM made a number of complaints against prosecutors, police and forensic officials, alleging attempts to pervert the course of justice ahead of Megrahi’s trial at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands 18 years ago.

    The completed police report will be passed to independent legal counsel before it goes to the Crown Office.

    http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com/

    Tuesday, 17 April 2018

    Police inquiry into Lockerbie bombing claims coming to conclusion

    [This is the headline over a report published in today's edition of The Scotsman. It reads in part:]

    Campaigners for the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing believe a long-running police investigation is finally nearing its end.

    Police Scotland is examining allegations made by the Justice for Megrahi (JFM) group about the prosecution of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi. (…)

    Officers started a probe – Operation Sandwood – in February 2014 after JFM made a number of complaints against prosecutors, police and forensic officials, alleging attempts to pervert the course of justice ahead of Megrahi’s trial at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands 18 years ago.

    The completed police report will be passed to independent legal counsel before it goes to the Crown Office.

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  131. oates792 says:
    @ValmMond
    I stopped reading at:

    "I have never ruled out the possibility that Russia is responsible for the attack in Salisbury"
     
    Time for timid half-truths is over. If by now you haven't identified the Skripal affair as the joint UK/US production it is, Act I of the AngloZionist war on Syria, Russia and humanity, your analysis isn't worth the pixels it's written on. There is zero doubt. Case closed. Especially after this:
    https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/04/15/swiss-governmental-lab-identifies-the-substance-used-on-the-skripal-case-as-being-linked-to-the-nato/
    I wish you realize that appeals to skepticism and lines like "I'm not fan of Putin/Assad" get you nowhere. You are facing a brutal, fact-twisting, intellect-insulting, lying, propaganda machine. Any concession you make to their "arguments" comes with the smell of blood. They'll mock your "moderate" views and will try to make you look weak and foolish as Sky-news did. You can't be only half-brave, half-informed and half-right. And why engage those shameless liars if not to destroy completely their blatant lies?

    Right. Just listened to Lord West saying that it makes no sense to him that Assad would gas Douma at this hour. But then, to “balance his remarks” he says that Assad is a ‘loathsome individual who has certainly gassed his people in the past’, and that ‘the Russians lie constantly as a matter of policy.’

    There is a danger in this as the case against Assad begins to unravel, and will unravel. When no WMD were found in Iraq proponents of the invasion said, ‘Oh well, the world is better off without the monster Hussein.’ When Murray says “I’m not a fan of Putin/Assad ‘ he is opening the way for the warmongers who invaded Iraq and murdered Hussein, as is Lord West with his comment. If these commentators, without the courage of their convictions, make these enabling judgments they will share responsibility with the warmongers.

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  132. annamaria says:

    I doubt that Lord West has the courage to accuse Theresa May and her husband Philip May of war profiteering. This accusation has much more merit than the nebulous ‘the Russians lie constantly…’ by Lord West. Let’s see how much honor the UK’ Lords could gather in response to this factual information: “Theresa May’s Husband’s Investment Firm Made a “Financial Killing” from the Bombing of Syria,” by Tom D. Rogers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/disgusting-conflict-of-interest-theresa-mays-husbands-investment-firm-made-a-financial-killing-from-the-bombing-of-syria/5636632

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  133. Anonymous[795] • Disclaimer says:
    @Erebus

    Incorrect. Israel has not been able to get the United States to go to war with Iran or Syria, its two primary regional adversaries.
     
    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before "going to Tehran" makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they've been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.

    None of the wars that the US has actually fought in the Middle East—Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq—since 9/11 have redounded to the benefit of Israel.
     
    ... illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.
    At the "end of history", there was enough hubris permeating the air in Washington to make careful assessment, planning and disciplined execution unnecessary. "We'll create our own reality", they said, presumably intending to cobble it together from "known and unknown unknowns".

    In the end, they didn't know more than they thought they didn't know.

    Net result is that not only Israel, but Washington's Arab satrapies find themselves scrambling to come to terms with what the "New Middle East" is gonna look like. The USM may have a few 100 missile salvoes left in them, but having had its credibility destroyed, its military limits exposed, and its finances in doubt, the end of the M.E.'s Pax Americana has hove into view.

    A grand case of "Be careful what you wish (and lobby) for".

    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before “going to Tehran” makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they’ve been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.

    >Surrounding Iran

    In that case, why not simply ally with Saddam Hussein against Iran, the way that Israel, the US and many Gulf States basically are allied now? And in any case, neither Iraq or Afghanistan is a “friendly puppet” to the US; the Iraqi government is considered by many to be effectively an Iranian puppet, and Afghanistan’s nominal government is completely dysfunctional and exercises little to no sovereignty outside areas with coalition troops.

    >bombing Syria

    Well, if by the “it” in “bombing it for quite a while now” you mean ISIS, a terrorist organization which contests the Assad government for control of Syria, then yes, we have, to the considerable benefit of the Assad government. If you mean “the Assad regime and its allies”, then no the US has most definitely not been continually bombing “it”, even though alleged false flag chemical attacks such as in Ghouta in 2013 would have given the US ample excuse/reason to do so if it desired. (Note that this was before the direct involvement of Russian forces in the conflict, which began in 2015.) The Trump administration’s strikes against Assad’s forces, while ill-advised in my view, are obviously mostly symbolic and have not meaningfully degraded the ability of the Assad government to wage war against forces opposed to it.

    If the US government was controlled by Israel and consequently manipulated to fight wars to benefit Israel, this would be a very bizarre course of action for our Israeli puppet-masters to dictate to us.

    … illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.

    Okay, but conspiracy theorists tend to focus on results (cui bono?), assume that those results imply some conjectured intent, and castigate those who disagree as idiots, dupes, et cetera, for not connecting the obvious, plain as the nose on your face, dots. (As indeed Ron Unz did above.) This is because there usually is no compelling evidence for the intent that conspiracy theorists wish to establish. (Which doesn’t it mean it necessarily doesn’t exist, to be clear!)

    This is certainly true in this case. The evidence for intent alone does not compel the conclusion that the US went to war in Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya for the benefit of Israel. I think the closest you can come is that some officials have said that Israel’s security was a factor in the Iraq War, but many more officials have cited multiple other factors (e.g. democracy promotion or dealing with rogue states) as the intent for invading Iraq, and denied that protecting Israel was a factor, so directly establishing intent to invade Iraq for Israel’s benefit is, to say the least, very difficult. (Another way of looking at it is—if American politicians and the US media are completely in thrall to Israel, and the masses are ignorant and easily brain-washed, why wouldn’t they just come out and say that they were invading countries to benefit Our Greatest Ally, at least as one reason among many?)

    This is why proponents of this view have to argue that the results of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have been to the benefit of Israel, and why I rebutted this claim above.

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    Are you ("Anonymous[795]") the same Anonymous as "Anonymous[679]", or a 2nd one? get a handle and stick with it.
    Anyhow...

    In that case, why not simply ally with Saddam Hussein against Iran, the way that Israel, the US and many Gulf States basically are allied now?
     
    Umm, they did and were, but he apparently had his own ideas and wouldn't submit to all the rules that come along with being an American "ally". He was a Ba'athist, after all.
    However, and more to the point, Iraq was a successful, secular state under a pan-Arabist ideology. This was no great threat to US interests in itself, but would eventually be a great threat to Israel's. If Saddam's support for the Palestinian cause didn't disqualify him, the possibility that an alliance under which he and Iraq would prosper and peel other allies away from their thrall to America and the Saudis could not be allowed to happen, for obvious reasons.

    Well, if by the “it” in “bombing it for quite a while now” you mean ISIS, a terrorist organization which contests the Assad government for control of Syria, then yes, we have, to the considerable benefit of the Assad government.
     
    Given that ISIS arose under American auspices, and given that they and much of the rest of the motley assortment of moderate headchoppers benefited from American and/or allies' money, advisors, planners, weaponry, etc that have torn Syria asunder, your claim is simply disingenuous. On those occasions where the US/allies attacked SAR directly, it was tactically advantageous to the Takfiris. You and Anon [679] knew that of course.
    Under America's great bombing campaign, ISIS, AQ, and hosts of others grew like topsy, including even a thriving criminal oil theft operation right under American bombers' noses with nary a scratch. Some might even say, American protection. With "benefits" like that, who needs detriments?

    As for "intent", it is indeed difficult to establish evidence but much easier to see the trajectory of action and work backwards. When one does that, the single most obvious beneficiary was Israel and its various "Eretz Israel" memes, closely followed by Saudi Arabia and its dreams of becoming undisputed leader of the Arab world.
    Of course, the US had an interest in advancing its 2 primary allies' interests. With the M.E. in friendly hands, the US could pivot to Asia to face a surging China. That is where the real threat to American Hegemony lies. They succeeded exactly nowhere, and so we are where we are.
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  134. Anonymous[795] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Brown
    Let's just presume -for the sake of the argument-that most Jews were against the Iraq war. What matters is the 2% who take the decisions...or who tell those who are formally responsible for taking decisions what they should do...Unless you really believe that Clinton, Bush, Blair, Obama are destroying ME in the national interest of the USA. By the way, "jewish" responsible for the Iraq war even brag about it. Even if you are too young you can read about it. "If" ...Is not an argument.
    If Trump had been elected president of the USA , relations with Russia and American wars of aggression would....wait....He was elected. Al Gore would have done what the masters of the war wanted. Last point: You are not "jewish".Your religion-if you have one- doesn't matter at all. Your humanity does. Those calling themselves jewish and killing in the name of the tribe are not jewish. They are criminals. Forget Noam Chomsky. The man is not honest. He sees no problem in voting for war criminals like Hilary Clinton because global warming is more important than a nuclear war. And everyone knows that HClinton cares a lot about environment. And Noam Chomsky believes in all the false flags...He is very "radical"....If you are naïve and incapable of thinking. Otherwise you will know that Chomsky is a fraud. Howard Zinn deserves our respect and admiration.

    Where to even begin when responding to such a logically and stylistically impeccable comment? Unfortunately I have to leave soon, so my comment will be truncated for the sake, but perhaps I will return later to demonstrate some more of the flaws in your comment.

    Let’s just presume -for the sake of the argument-that most Jews were against the Iraq war.

    Actually, let’s just accept as publicly verifiable fact that American Jews were more likely to oppose the Iraq War than most, if not indeed all, American ethnic or religious groups for which we have data. Let’s please keep this relevant fact in mind we start talking about “Jews” and “the Jews” as a monolithic entity.

    What matters is the 2% who take the decisions…or who tell those who are formally responsible for taking decisions what they should do…Unless you really believe that Clinton, Bush, Blair, Obama are destroying ME in the national interest of the USA.

    Fallacious reasoning. Believing that the Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya wars were not fought for Israel’s interests does not mean that you believe that they benefited America’s interests.

    By the way, “jewish” responsible for the Iraq war even brag about it. Even if you are too young you can read about it.

    Oh, you mean the Jews like the president, vice-president, secretary of state, CIA director, secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Those Jews? Or is someone else besides the top ranking members of the American government and military responsible for invading Iraq? (In before “Yes—the Jews.” Okay, unless Jews have magic mind control machines, how did/do they get officials elected in the vast majority by Gentiles to do their bidding?)

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    No, I'm talking about people like Thomas Friedman for example. I'm sure you know him.

    "Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened." - Thomas Friedman.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this/

    Needless to say that the 25 people TF is talking about are all....You got it.

    Let me just repeat again: I don't believe those pseudo-intellectuals, journalists, writers, "men of action" etc are Jewish. TF, in his ignorance, believes they are. Like most "ignorant" people do believe that those incomplete human beings are Jewish. They are not.

    "Jewish" (like Christian, Muslim, Capitalist etc...) is just a label which doesn't mean nothing.

    A powerful label but just a label. A label used often to sell, to blackmail...to get power, more power. It's all about power, isn't it ?

    Is Roger Waters a Jewish ? Well, if one has a tribal mentality and therefore stupid then one might say "yes". He is a Jewish.
    But if one is trying to be a human being, then one will answer : Roger Waters is a decent human being and a great artist. Sometimes decent human beings can be great artists.

    There are lots of "flaws" in my "reasoning" but maybe the only question worth asking is: He's telling the truth ?
    Of course you just choose to ignore what you couldn't "answer" and then decide to split the hair.
    Not the right path, in my humble opinion.

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  135. @TT
    Indeed Russians diplomatic skills are excellent, so are their impressive counter propaganda war that scared the West into censoring all RT with Russophobia clown circus show. China has much to learn from Russia on these area.

    But the magnitude West have been insulting Russia & demonized Putin with blatant lies & smearing, imposing insultive sanction & confiscation of diplomat assets, making open threat to kill as many Russians by high level leaders(which they did in Syria), are all unprecedented, tantamount to war declaration. Hence these are what i means humiliation. Why stating facts is absurd?

    Of course i know Putin is a grand chess master with deep thinking & great patient, weighing every minute move to survive the West onslaught, Ukraine & Syria war are stella showcase of Russia sophistication.

    But i simply find disgust(annoying) with their exceeding hypocrite "partner" appeasing approach, cooperating in strategic issues when themselves are under severe attack. Isn't it a joke to back NK unjustified sanction when Russia ownself is under West sanction on false accusation?

    Even long time russophile PCR can't stand Russia's undying wish to be with the West that he wrote many articles to dig on her.

    Andrei Martyanov had highlighted in one of his article about Russia FM speech on White European Christian value, Wasp, is something one can get some insigh into Putin's team thinking why they are dying to be with the white West.

    My nip-on-bud strategy is observed carefully from how China, NK & Iran applied consistently to call West bluffs & keep their aggression at bay successfully.

    Great warfare strategist Mao had coined a very good term for USM - Paper Tiger, as it will only bully those who can't/willing to fight back. China earned its credibility in Korea war, and demonstrated again in last year high profile confrontation in SCS with its whole Navy(Chief Cdr on board), and nuke sub sent to threaten US bases.

    That scared the hell out of US two strike groups into hidding at East Philippine, with Obama despatching his chief general & NSA advisor Rice to visit China for settlement. You probably didn't get to read that as West msm had gone completely blackout.

    West has never dare to clash with China & NK directly for last 50yrs because they know the price is too unbearable heavy. So is Iran's steely will to carry out their threat to take out all US ME assets & bases, put Israel in hell, should US strike.

    Many USM generals including mad dog Mattis openly reckoned US has no stomach for a NK war with 10M casualties. Pompeo also clearly said its too heavy price to consider even striking Iran(if my memory didn't fail me). But all find killing maximum Russians is best way to deter/punish Russia from resisting West menace.

    Russia has superior conventional & nuclear deterrent that no country will want direct confrontation. That's why USN declared they haven't consider doing FON in North Pole sealanes when US demanded for their usage recently.

    But Russia regularly been called bluff by US has emboldened West to up the ante, causing many unnecessary casualties & delay of war closure in both Syria & Ukraine. Politicians like Obama/Trumps & Putin can lied shamelessly, but not a General. When a chief General drawn a red line infront the world, he must carry out so that enemy will respect. Otherwise the army lost all credibility to lead/fight a war. And to not defending allies under open West unjustifiable attack has truly damaged Russia credibility & trustworthiness.

    Putin can always demand a retaliation strike to empty Israel airfield & a few UK/Fr warplanes to upkeep his General credibility, in return for permitting US strike without sinking its carrier. But he eat humble pie, like Soviet clumsy handling of Cuba crisis that short change SU into having US placing new nuke at its border whiile it gave up Cuba. SU also failed to give its ally Cuba guarantee of nuclear protection that US provide to Nato.

    I have explained much on various comments on my view backing with facts, logics and true case studies.

    You & other zealous Russophiles may have your own views. But i don't think its fair that you category remarked mine as absurd or naive school girl yearning for boy attention. In fact, you have mostly speak on your view based on feeling, without any insightful strategy.

    I am truly sorry that my comparison of your attitude to that of a schoolgirl hurt you feelings so much but do please keep your skirt on and don’t get your knickers in a twist.

    FWIW, I am not a Russiaphile nor a Sinophobe, I would hope that those and all nations coexist peacefully and deal with one another earnestly and fairly for the betterment of their people and not for the greedy and immoral 1%. I trust we can agree on that. Cheers

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    Lol. No issues with the skirt for me since im wearing one but not the twisted knickers, Scottish wear theirs proudly.

    Yes, we should all wish the world coexist in peace. Cheers.
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  136. N. R. says:

    US-UK NATO Monsters

    Syrian ‘Rebels’ Used Sarin Nerve Gas Sold by Britain

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-sold-by-britain/5636698

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  137. @Anonymous
    Where to even begin when responding to such a logically and stylistically impeccable comment? Unfortunately I have to leave soon, so my comment will be truncated for the sake, but perhaps I will return later to demonstrate some more of the flaws in your comment.

    Let’s just presume -for the sake of the argument-that most Jews were against the Iraq war.
     
    Actually, let's just accept as publicly verifiable fact that American Jews were more likely to oppose the Iraq War than most, if not indeed all, American ethnic or religious groups for which we have data. Let's please keep this relevant fact in mind we start talking about "Jews" and "the Jews" as a monolithic entity.

    What matters is the 2% who take the decisions…or who tell those who are formally responsible for taking decisions what they should do…Unless you really believe that Clinton, Bush, Blair, Obama are destroying ME in the national interest of the USA.
     
    Fallacious reasoning. Believing that the Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya wars were not fought for Israel's interests does not mean that you believe that they benefited America's interests.

    By the way, “jewish” responsible for the Iraq war even brag about it. Even if you are too young you can read about it.
     
    Oh, you mean the Jews like the president, vice-president, secretary of state, CIA director, secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Those Jews? Or is someone else besides the top ranking members of the American government and military responsible for invading Iraq? (In before "Yes---the Jews." Okay, unless Jews have magic mind control machines, how did/do they get officials elected in the vast majority by Gentiles to do their bidding?)

    No, I’m talking about people like Thomas Friedman for example. I’m sure you know him.

    “Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.” – Thomas Friedman.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this/

    Needless to say that the 25 people TF is talking about are all….You got it.

    Let me just repeat again: I don’t believe those pseudo-intellectuals, journalists, writers, “men of action” etc are Jewish. TF, in his ignorance, believes they are. Like most “ignorant” people do believe that those incomplete human beings are Jewish. They are not.

    “Jewish” (like Christian, Muslim, Capitalist etc…) is just a label which doesn’t mean nothing.

    A powerful label but just a label. A label used often to sell, to blackmail…to get power, more power. It’s all about power, isn’t it ?

    Is Roger Waters a Jewish ? Well, if one has a tribal mentality and therefore stupid then one might say “yes”. He is a Jewish.
    But if one is trying to be a human being, then one will answer : Roger Waters is a decent human being and a great artist. Sometimes decent human beings can be great artists.

    There are lots of “flaws” in my “reasoning” but maybe the only question worth asking is: He’s telling the truth ?
    Of course you just choose to ignore what you couldn’t “answer” and then decide to split the hair.
    Not the right path, in my humble opinion.

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  138. @annamaria
    Perhaps you are not an 18-year-old yet. Just try to sort out your grievances. When you approach, at least to some degree, the acknowledged honesty and courage of Craig Murray, then you would have some foundations for your statements about his honesty. For now, these your statements are just slanderous accusations.
    Meanwhile, here is an important reporting by a real super-mensch who happened to be a woman:
    "Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down," By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva
    "Porton Down is just one of the Pentagon-funded military laboratories in 25 countries across the world, where the US Army produces and tests man-made viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN convention. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.
    The Pentagon-funded military facilities are not under the direct control of the host state as the US military and civilian personnel is working under diplomatic cover. The local governments are prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the foreign military program running on their own territory."
    -- Next to the Dilyana Gaytandzhieva's courageous and meticulous reporting, the MSM corps of journalists of male persuasion looks like a community of moral eunuchs and intellectually impotent opportunists

    You just read one post. I have already corrected my mistake. You can read it in the post below the “main” post. I immediately realized that I wasn’t being fair with a great and decent man.
    I have great admiration and respect for Mr Craig Murray and his work.
    It’s a pity that he’s an exception in the British Establishment and that warmongers and criminals like Blair and the clown Boris are the rule.

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  139. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    Perhaps you are not an 18-year-old yet. Just try to sort out your grievances. When you approach, at least to some degree, the acknowledged honesty and courage of Craig Murray, then you would have some foundations for your statements about his honesty. For now, these your statements are just slanderous accusations.
    Meanwhile, here is an important reporting by a real super-mensch who happened to be a woman:
    "Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down," By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva
    "Porton Down is just one of the Pentagon-funded military laboratories in 25 countries across the world, where the US Army produces and tests man-made viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN convention. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.
    The Pentagon-funded military facilities are not under the direct control of the host state as the US military and civilian personnel is working under diplomatic cover. The local governments are prohibited from public disclosure of sensitive information about the foreign military program running on their own territory."
    -- Next to the Dilyana Gaytandzhieva's courageous and meticulous reporting, the MSM corps of journalists of male persuasion looks like a community of moral eunuchs and intellectually impotent opportunists

    Here’s the link -

    https://southfront.org/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-reveals-70-million-pentagon-program-porton/

    Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian investigative journalist and Middle East Correspondent. Her current report provides an overview of the Pentagon-funded experiments at the secretive UK military laboratory Porton Down….

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    So you wann kill Chinese cuz some of them eat dogs ?

    What are the crimes of the Iraqis that they deserve these....
    They dont eat dog, do they ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=iraq+du+babies&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzNvDp8XaAhULuY8KHUGnAscQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    the Vietnamese ?
    hmm, cuz they eat dogs too ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=vietnam+agent+orange&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmMCOqMXaAhWIpo8KHZF1B_EQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289


    The Serbs...

    Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including "a priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?
     
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114095311/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

    The Indonesians....

    The tribunal's report found Australia, the US and the UK complicit by using propaganda to manipulate international opinion in favour of the Indonesian army.

    The report said Australia and the UK, " … shared the US aim of seeking to bring about the overthrow of president Sukarno."

    "They continued with this policy even after it had become abundantly clear that killings were taking place on a mass and indiscriminate basis. On balance, this appears to justify the charge of complicity," the report said.

    The report detailed horrifying details of rape and torture, including accused communists being forced to drink soldiers' urine, while in other cases victims' ears were cut off and they were forced to consume them.

    According to the report, other acts of torture included, burning body parts, electric shocks, water torture, pulling out of fingernails and tying victims inside a sack with snakes.

     
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/1965-indonesian-mass-killings-were-crimes-against-humanity/7647274

    East Timoris

    Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

    The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

    The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

    This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: "In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."

    This was greeted in the Western press as "a gleam of light in Asia"

    (Time). The BBC's correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the "official line" was that Suharto had "saved" Indonesia from a communist takeover.

    "Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was," he told me. "There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the
    British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust.
    It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal."

    I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering "forgotten" in the West because Suharto was "our man". A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

    In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. "This is a uniquely historical moment," babbles one of them, "that is truly, uniquely historical."

    This is Australia's foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a "treaty". This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor's oil and gas resources.

    Thanks to Evans, Australia's then prime minister, Paul Keating -- who regarded Suharto as a father figure -- and a gang that ran Australia's foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto's genocidal conquest.

    The prize, said Evans, was "zillions" of dollars.

    Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: "sounds like fun". Another wrote: "sounds like the population are in raptures."

    Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an "impotent" invader, another diplomat sneered: "If 'the enemy was impotent', as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?"


    The documents, says Sarah Niner, are "vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor" in the Department of Foreign Affairs. "The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA's need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea."
     
    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-rape-of-east-timor-sounds-like-fun-


    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it'd take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    I've come across many murkkan tourists who initially masquerade as other nationalities cuz they were too ashamed to be a yank, do you know why ?
    But make no mistake , all the five lies are up to the eyeballs in it.

    Considering the kind of shits you've done to the world,
    You should be mighty grateful that you and your ilks can still walk the earth freely , unmolested, unchallenge.
    The Chinese in particular have 1001 reasons to hate you, but there'r absolutely no hate crimes against anglos, fact is, I heard anglos are enjoying some rather undeserved reverence down there , WTF !
    yet you have the cheek to wanna kill them cuz of dog eating ?

    The more I see, the more Im convinced that fukusIndia pose an existential threat to the world at large , the Chinese in particular.

    Since no one can stop the fukusI juggernaut, the next best thing would be a self implosion.

    white genocide is a godsend,
    bring it on.
    Its the only hope for mother earth.

    Dont blame us,
    You've long drawn the battle line,
    its either you or us.


    P.S.
    You'r a typical white trash supremacist, a sorry excuse for a human being, old chap.
    , @annamaria
    Thank you.
    There is more on the same: "Striking Syria: U.S. Shameless Violation of International Law. Fabricating Evidence and False Flag Operations," by Dr. Chandra Muzaffar
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/striking-syria-u-s-shameless-violation-of-international-law-fabricating-evidence-and-false-flag-operations/5636461
    "Assad ... had surrendered his arsenal of chemical weapons to the UN affiliated Dutch based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in 2013. This was verified by the OPCW. ...
    The Golan Heights which Israel captured in the 1967 War was formally annexed on 14 December 1981. It is important to note that it supplies water to Israel and contains oil, gas and minerals. With annexation, Israel asserted its perpetual sovereignty over Golan which to this day international law recognises as part of Syria. To translate its illegal annexation into political reality, Israel has for a number of years sought to oust the independent-minded government in Damascus and replace it with a puppet regime
    Defeat in Syria ... portends a significant shift in the power balance in the entire region ... a scenario that is totally unacceptable to the US and its allies like Britain and France. It is not a coincidence that in all these three countries, Israel and Zionism exercise inordinate influence. It is because Israel and its protectors are now uncertain about their dominance that they have chosen to flex their muscles.'
    -- The war against Syria is a war for Israel -- at the expense of western civilization.
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  140. denk says:
    @RobinG
    Here's the link -

    https://southfront.org/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-reveals-70-million-pentagon-program-porton/
    Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian investigative journalist and Middle East Correspondent. Her current report provides an overview of the Pentagon-funded experiments at the secretive UK military laboratory Porton Down....

    So you wann kill Chinese cuz some of them eat dogs ?

    What are the crimes of the Iraqis that they deserve these….
    They dont eat dog, do they ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=iraq+du+babies&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzNvDp8XaAhULuY8KHUGnAscQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    the Vietnamese ?
    hmm, cuz they eat dogs too ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=vietnam+agent+orange&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmMCOqMXaAhWIpo8KHZF1B_EQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    The Serbs…

    Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including “a priest with his head blasted away?” (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114095311/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

    The Indonesians….

    The tribunal’s report found Australia, the US and the UK complicit by using propaganda to manipulate international opinion in favour of the Indonesian army.

    The report said Australia and the UK, ” … shared the US aim of seeking to bring about the overthrow of president Sukarno.”

    “They continued with this policy even after it had become abundantly clear that killings were taking place on a mass and indiscriminate basis. On balance, this appears to justify the charge of complicity,” the report said.

    The report detailed horrifying details of rape and torture, including accused communists being forced to drink soldiers’ urine, while in other cases victims’ ears were cut off and they were forced to consume them.

    According to the report, other acts of torture included, burning body parts, electric shocks, water torture, pulling out of fingernails and tying victims inside a sack with snakes.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/1965-indonesian-mass-killings-were-crimes-against-humanity/7647274

    East Timoris

    Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

    The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

    The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

    This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: “In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century.”

    This was greeted in the Western press as “a gleam of light in Asia”

    (Time). The BBC’s correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the “official line” was that Suharto had “saved” Indonesia from a communist takeover.

    “Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was,” he told me. “There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the
    British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust.
    It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal.”

    I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering “forgotten” in the West because Suharto was “our man”. A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

    In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. “This is a uniquely historical moment,” babbles one of them, “that is truly, uniquely historical.”

    This is Australia’s foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a “treaty”. This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor’s oil and gas resources.

    Thanks to Evans, Australia’s then prime minister, Paul Keating — who regarded Suharto as a father figure — and a gang that ran Australia’s foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto’s genocidal conquest.

    The prize, said Evans, was “zillions” of dollars.

    Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: “sounds like fun”. Another wrote: “sounds like the population are in raptures.”

    Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an “impotent” invader, another diplomat sneered: “If ‘the enemy was impotent’, as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?”

    The documents, says Sarah Niner, are “vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor” in the Department of Foreign Affairs. “The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA’s need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea.”

    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-rape-of-east-timor-sounds-like-fun-

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    I’ve come across many murkkan tourists who initially masquerade as other nationalities cuz they were too ashamed to be a yank, do you know why ?
    But make no mistake , all the five lies are up to the eyeballs in it.

    Considering the kind of shits you’ve done to the world,
    You should be mighty grateful that you and your ilks can still walk the earth freely , unmolested, unchallenge.
    The Chinese in particular have 1001 reasons to hate you, but there’r absolutely no hate crimes against anglos, fact is, I heard anglos are enjoying some rather undeserved reverence down there , WTF !
    yet you have the cheek to wanna kill them cuz of dog eating ?

    The more I see, the more Im convinced that fukusIndia pose an existential threat to the world at large , the Chinese in particular.

    Since no one can stop the fukusI juggernaut, the next best thing would be a self implosion.

    white genocide is a godsend,
    bring it on.
    Its the only hope for mother earth.

    Dont blame us,
    You’ve long drawn the battle line,
    its either you or us.

    P.S.
    You’r a typical white trash supremacist, a sorry excuse for a human being, old chap.

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    gawd damn,
    The above is for renfro, that white trash supremacist.
    , @RobinG
    ??? denk ????????
    , @TT

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,
     
    Even a abstract of their crimes with filled a huge library. Could you gather a few thousands scholars to start recording them down before we lose pace, as they are killing at a greater speed at better efficiency using proxy terrorists & WMD.

    Why SARs & birdflu only happen in Chinese predominant area? Don't those birds migrate to the whites place, since Russia, Oz & Nz are so nearby. Even filthy India with every animals roaming the streets is too clean for the virus.

    But they said China very dirty & unhygienic with live poultry handling is reason. Wow, most sterilized clean Spore Chinese ethnic eating only US frozen Tyson chicken get hit, Taiwan, HK, Macao, SEAsia, …whether Chinese eat dog or not, no different. You have Chinese DNA, you are collateral damage…hehehehe

    USAF collected white Russians samples for clinical research. What Air Force got to do with that research? Must be USAid charity is giving away free Vodka addiction vaccines for all Russians tired of fighting Putin's wars.

    Sound like last Vietnam & NK war, when they drop plagued-fleas as biological weapon to scrap bad commies after Agent Orange & Napalm wasn't powerful enough.

    UNSC should at least authorize once for FUKUS to bomb Washington, London & Paris for using chem WMD, sure Russian & Chinese won't veto this time.

    This may be the final solution for your survival…hehehehe(warning: in Chinese language only, not for faint heart)
    https://m.baidu.com/paw/c/m.tiexue.net/touch/thread_7074033_1.html%3Fmip
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  141. denk says:
    @denk
    So you wann kill Chinese cuz some of them eat dogs ?

    What are the crimes of the Iraqis that they deserve these....
    They dont eat dog, do they ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=iraq+du+babies&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzNvDp8XaAhULuY8KHUGnAscQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    the Vietnamese ?
    hmm, cuz they eat dogs too ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=vietnam+agent+orange&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmMCOqMXaAhWIpo8KHZF1B_EQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289


    The Serbs...

    Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including "a priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?
     
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114095311/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

    The Indonesians....

    The tribunal's report found Australia, the US and the UK complicit by using propaganda to manipulate international opinion in favour of the Indonesian army.

    The report said Australia and the UK, " … shared the US aim of seeking to bring about the overthrow of president Sukarno."

    "They continued with this policy even after it had become abundantly clear that killings were taking place on a mass and indiscriminate basis. On balance, this appears to justify the charge of complicity," the report said.

    The report detailed horrifying details of rape and torture, including accused communists being forced to drink soldiers' urine, while in other cases victims' ears were cut off and they were forced to consume them.

    According to the report, other acts of torture included, burning body parts, electric shocks, water torture, pulling out of fingernails and tying victims inside a sack with snakes.

     
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/1965-indonesian-mass-killings-were-crimes-against-humanity/7647274

    East Timoris

    Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

    The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

    The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

    This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: "In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."

    This was greeted in the Western press as "a gleam of light in Asia"

    (Time). The BBC's correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the "official line" was that Suharto had "saved" Indonesia from a communist takeover.

    "Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was," he told me. "There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the
    British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust.
    It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal."

    I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering "forgotten" in the West because Suharto was "our man". A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

    In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. "This is a uniquely historical moment," babbles one of them, "that is truly, uniquely historical."

    This is Australia's foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a "treaty". This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor's oil and gas resources.

    Thanks to Evans, Australia's then prime minister, Paul Keating -- who regarded Suharto as a father figure -- and a gang that ran Australia's foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto's genocidal conquest.

    The prize, said Evans, was "zillions" of dollars.

    Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: "sounds like fun". Another wrote: "sounds like the population are in raptures."

    Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an "impotent" invader, another diplomat sneered: "If 'the enemy was impotent', as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?"


    The documents, says Sarah Niner, are "vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor" in the Department of Foreign Affairs. "The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA's need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea."
     
    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-rape-of-east-timor-sounds-like-fun-


    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it'd take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    I've come across many murkkan tourists who initially masquerade as other nationalities cuz they were too ashamed to be a yank, do you know why ?
    But make no mistake , all the five lies are up to the eyeballs in it.

    Considering the kind of shits you've done to the world,
    You should be mighty grateful that you and your ilks can still walk the earth freely , unmolested, unchallenge.
    The Chinese in particular have 1001 reasons to hate you, but there'r absolutely no hate crimes against anglos, fact is, I heard anglos are enjoying some rather undeserved reverence down there , WTF !
    yet you have the cheek to wanna kill them cuz of dog eating ?

    The more I see, the more Im convinced that fukusIndia pose an existential threat to the world at large , the Chinese in particular.

    Since no one can stop the fukusI juggernaut, the next best thing would be a self implosion.

    white genocide is a godsend,
    bring it on.
    Its the only hope for mother earth.

    Dont blame us,
    You've long drawn the battle line,
    its either you or us.


    P.S.
    You'r a typical white trash supremacist, a sorry excuse for a human being, old chap.

    gawd damn,
    The above is for renfro, that white trash supremacist.

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  142. RobinG says:
    @denk
    So you wann kill Chinese cuz some of them eat dogs ?

    What are the crimes of the Iraqis that they deserve these....
    They dont eat dog, do they ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=iraq+du+babies&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzNvDp8XaAhULuY8KHUGnAscQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    the Vietnamese ?
    hmm, cuz they eat dogs too ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=vietnam+agent+orange&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmMCOqMXaAhWIpo8KHZF1B_EQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289


    The Serbs...

    Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including "a priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?
     
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114095311/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

    The Indonesians....

    The tribunal's report found Australia, the US and the UK complicit by using propaganda to manipulate international opinion in favour of the Indonesian army.

    The report said Australia and the UK, " … shared the US aim of seeking to bring about the overthrow of president Sukarno."

    "They continued with this policy even after it had become abundantly clear that killings were taking place on a mass and indiscriminate basis. On balance, this appears to justify the charge of complicity," the report said.

    The report detailed horrifying details of rape and torture, including accused communists being forced to drink soldiers' urine, while in other cases victims' ears were cut off and they were forced to consume them.

    According to the report, other acts of torture included, burning body parts, electric shocks, water torture, pulling out of fingernails and tying victims inside a sack with snakes.

     
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/1965-indonesian-mass-killings-were-crimes-against-humanity/7647274

    East Timoris

    Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

    The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

    The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

    This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: "In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."

    This was greeted in the Western press as "a gleam of light in Asia"

    (Time). The BBC's correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the "official line" was that Suharto had "saved" Indonesia from a communist takeover.

    "Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was," he told me. "There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the
    British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust.
    It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal."

    I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering "forgotten" in the West because Suharto was "our man". A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

    In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. "This is a uniquely historical moment," babbles one of them, "that is truly, uniquely historical."

    This is Australia's foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a "treaty". This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor's oil and gas resources.

    Thanks to Evans, Australia's then prime minister, Paul Keating -- who regarded Suharto as a father figure -- and a gang that ran Australia's foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto's genocidal conquest.

    The prize, said Evans, was "zillions" of dollars.

    Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: "sounds like fun". Another wrote: "sounds like the population are in raptures."

    Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an "impotent" invader, another diplomat sneered: "If 'the enemy was impotent', as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?"


    The documents, says Sarah Niner, are "vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor" in the Department of Foreign Affairs. "The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA's need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea."
     
    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-rape-of-east-timor-sounds-like-fun-


    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it'd take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    I've come across many murkkan tourists who initially masquerade as other nationalities cuz they were too ashamed to be a yank, do you know why ?
    But make no mistake , all the five lies are up to the eyeballs in it.

    Considering the kind of shits you've done to the world,
    You should be mighty grateful that you and your ilks can still walk the earth freely , unmolested, unchallenge.
    The Chinese in particular have 1001 reasons to hate you, but there'r absolutely no hate crimes against anglos, fact is, I heard anglos are enjoying some rather undeserved reverence down there , WTF !
    yet you have the cheek to wanna kill them cuz of dog eating ?

    The more I see, the more Im convinced that fukusIndia pose an existential threat to the world at large , the Chinese in particular.

    Since no one can stop the fukusI juggernaut, the next best thing would be a self implosion.

    white genocide is a godsend,
    bring it on.
    Its the only hope for mother earth.

    Dont blame us,
    You've long drawn the battle line,
    its either you or us.


    P.S.
    You'r a typical white trash supremacist, a sorry excuse for a human being, old chap.

    ??? denk ????????

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  143. annamaria says:
    @RobinG
    Here's the link -

    https://southfront.org/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-reveals-70-million-pentagon-program-porton/
    Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian investigative journalist and Middle East Correspondent. Her current report provides an overview of the Pentagon-funded experiments at the secretive UK military laboratory Porton Down....

    Thank you.
    There is more on the same: “Striking Syria: U.S. Shameless Violation of International Law. Fabricating Evidence and False Flag Operations,” by Dr. Chandra Muzaffar

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/striking-syria-u-s-shameless-violation-of-international-law-fabricating-evidence-and-false-flag-operations/5636461

    “Assad … had surrendered his arsenal of chemical weapons to the UN affiliated Dutch based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in 2013. This was verified by the OPCW. …
    The Golan Heights which Israel captured in the 1967 War was formally annexed on 14 December 1981. It is important to note that it supplies water to Israel and contains oil, gas and minerals. With annexation, Israel asserted its perpetual sovereignty over Golan which to this day international law recognises as part of Syria. To translate its illegal annexation into political reality, Israel has for a number of years sought to oust the independent-minded government in Damascus and replace it with a puppet regime
    Defeat in Syria … portends a significant shift in the power balance in the entire region … a scenario that is totally unacceptable to the US and its allies like Britain and France. It is not a coincidence that in all these three countries, Israel and Zionism exercise inordinate influence. It is because Israel and its protectors are now uncertain about their dominance that they have chosen to flex their muscles.’
    – The war against Syria is a war for Israel — at the expense of western civilization.

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    Egypt is the only Arab country that Israel fears. Assad was allowed to remain in power because he leads a weak country that is no threat. Assad was unable to defeat rag tag militias without heavy weapons meaningful AAA or air support.
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  144. Erebus says:
    @Anonymous

    Not so sure about that. Surrounding Iran with friendly puppets in AF & IQ before “going to Tehran” makes eminent sense. As for Syria, they’ve been bombing it for quite a while now, and still are. They just botched it, badly, in all cases.
     
    >Surrounding Iran

    In that case, why not simply ally with Saddam Hussein against Iran, the way that Israel, the US and many Gulf States basically are allied now? And in any case, neither Iraq or Afghanistan is a "friendly puppet" to the US; the Iraqi government is considered by many to be effectively an Iranian puppet, and Afghanistan's nominal government is completely dysfunctional and exercises little to no sovereignty outside areas with coalition troops.

    >bombing Syria

    Well, if by the "it" in "bombing it for quite a while now" you mean ISIS, a terrorist organization which contests the Assad government for control of Syria, then yes, we have, to the considerable benefit of the Assad government. If you mean "the Assad regime and its allies", then no the US has most definitely not been continually bombing "it", even though alleged false flag chemical attacks such as in Ghouta in 2013 would have given the US ample excuse/reason to do so if it desired. (Note that this was before the direct involvement of Russian forces in the conflict, which began in 2015.) The Trump administration's strikes against Assad's forces, while ill-advised in my view, are obviously mostly symbolic and have not meaningfully degraded the ability of the Assad government to wage war against forces opposed to it.

    If the US government was controlled by Israel and consequently manipulated to fight wars to benefit Israel, this would be a very bizarre course of action for our Israeli puppet-masters to dictate to us.


    … illustrating nothing more than the difference between intent and result.
     
    Okay, but conspiracy theorists tend to focus on results (cui bono?), assume that those results imply some conjectured intent, and castigate those who disagree as idiots, dupes, et cetera, for not connecting the obvious, plain as the nose on your face, dots. (As indeed Ron Unz did above.) This is because there usually is no compelling evidence for the intent that conspiracy theorists wish to establish. (Which doesn't it mean it necessarily doesn't exist, to be clear!)

    This is certainly true in this case. The evidence for intent alone does not compel the conclusion that the US went to war in Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya for the benefit of Israel. I think the closest you can come is that some officials have said that Israel's security was a factor in the Iraq War, but many more officials have cited multiple other factors (e.g. democracy promotion or dealing with rogue states) as the intent for invading Iraq, and denied that protecting Israel was a factor, so directly establishing intent to invade Iraq for Israel's benefit is, to say the least, very difficult. (Another way of looking at it is---if American politicians and the US media are completely in thrall to Israel, and the masses are ignorant and easily brain-washed, why wouldn't they just come out and say that they were invading countries to benefit Our Greatest Ally, at least as one reason among many?)

    This is why proponents of this view have to argue that the results of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya have been to the benefit of Israel, and why I rebutted this claim above.

    Are you (“Anonymous[795]“) the same Anonymous as “Anonymous[679]“, or a 2nd one? get a handle and stick with it.
    Anyhow…

    In that case, why not simply ally with Saddam Hussein against Iran, the way that Israel, the US and many Gulf States basically are allied now?

    Umm, they did and were, but he apparently had his own ideas and wouldn’t submit to all the rules that come along with being an American “ally”. He was a Ba’athist, after all.
    However, and more to the point, Iraq was a successful, secular state under a pan-Arabist ideology. This was no great threat to US interests in itself, but would eventually be a great threat to Israel’s. If Saddam’s support for the Palestinian cause didn’t disqualify him, the possibility that an alliance under which he and Iraq would prosper and peel other allies away from their thrall to America and the Saudis could not be allowed to happen, for obvious reasons.

    Well, if by the “it” in “bombing it for quite a while now” you mean ISIS, a terrorist organization which contests the Assad government for control of Syria, then yes, we have, to the considerable benefit of the Assad government.

    Given that ISIS arose under American auspices, and given that they and much of the rest of the motley assortment of moderate headchoppers benefited from American and/or allies’ money, advisors, planners, weaponry, etc that have torn Syria asunder, your claim is simply disingenuous. On those occasions where the US/allies attacked SAR directly, it was tactically advantageous to the Takfiris. You and Anon [679] knew that of course.
    Under America’s great bombing campaign, ISIS, AQ, and hosts of others grew like topsy, including even a thriving criminal oil theft operation right under American bombers’ noses with nary a scratch. Some might even say, American protection. With “benefits” like that, who needs detriments?

    As for “intent”, it is indeed difficult to establish evidence but much easier to see the trajectory of action and work backwards. When one does that, the single most obvious beneficiary was Israel and its various “Eretz Israel” memes, closely followed by Saudi Arabia and its dreams of becoming undisputed leader of the Arab world.
    Of course, the US had an interest in advancing its 2 primary allies’ interests. With the M.E. in friendly hands, the US could pivot to Asia to face a surging China. That is where the real threat to American Hegemony lies. They succeeded exactly nowhere, and so we are where we are.

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  145. @ValmMond
    Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish?
    Putin has a country to run. It's 1/8 of the Earth's inhabited land area. It's bursting with hydrocarbures, rare metals and untapped fresh water reserves. He does what's best for Russia - present and future.
    He doesn't pay much attention to the squeaks and yelping of ramdom empire's domestics and lapdogs.
    By all means, let's all take note of what that hideous Punjabi untouchable Nimrata "Nikki" Randhawa has to say. Or Macron, who 20 years ago married his mother.
    Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only.

    “Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish….”

    “Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only…”

    TT plainly restated the facts as the Russians themselves delivered them in the week leading up to the missile attack, your vituperations notwithstanding…

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    Wrong. TT misquoted.

    Here's the exact Guerassimov's statement (with EVERY word carefully chosen and weighted):

    "In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, the Russian Armed Forces will take retaliatory measures against both, the missiles as well as the carriers from which they will be launched" (emphasis mine). Here is the original, in case you read Russian: "В случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять."
    The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was "threat to the lives of our servicemen". Putin left himself a leeway for appreciation of what constitutes a "threat".
    Mattis made sure not to come close to anything Russians could interpret as a threat.
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  146. TT says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I am truly sorry that my comparison of your attitude to that of a schoolgirl hurt you feelings so much but do please keep your skirt on and don't get your knickers in a twist.

    FWIW, I am not a Russiaphile nor a Sinophobe, I would hope that those and all nations coexist peacefully and deal with one another earnestly and fairly for the betterment of their people and not for the greedy and immoral 1%. I trust we can agree on that. Cheers

    Lol. No issues with the skirt for me since im wearing one but not the twisted knickers, Scottish wear theirs proudly.

    Yes, we should all wish the world coexist in peace. Cheers.

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    @denk
    So you wann kill Chinese cuz some of them eat dogs ?

    What are the crimes of the Iraqis that they deserve these....
    They dont eat dog, do they ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=iraq+du+babies&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFzNvDp8XaAhULuY8KHUGnAscQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289

    the Vietnamese ?
    hmm, cuz they eat dogs too ?

    https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=vietnam+agent+orange&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmMCOqMXaAhWIpo8KHZF1B_EQ_AUICigB&biw=533&bih=289


    The Serbs...

    Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including "a priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?
     
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114095311/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

    The Indonesians....

    The tribunal's report found Australia, the US and the UK complicit by using propaganda to manipulate international opinion in favour of the Indonesian army.

    The report said Australia and the UK, " … shared the US aim of seeking to bring about the overthrow of president Sukarno."

    "They continued with this policy even after it had become abundantly clear that killings were taking place on a mass and indiscriminate basis. On balance, this appears to justify the charge of complicity," the report said.

    The report detailed horrifying details of rape and torture, including accused communists being forced to drink soldiers' urine, while in other cases victims' ears were cut off and they were forced to consume them.

    According to the report, other acts of torture included, burning body parts, electric shocks, water torture, pulling out of fingernails and tying victims inside a sack with snakes.

     
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/1965-indonesian-mass-killings-were-crimes-against-humanity/7647274

    East Timoris

    Secret documents found in the Australian National Archives provide a glimpse of how one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century was executed and covered up. They also help us understand how and for whom the world is run.

    The documents refer to East Timor, now known as Timor-Leste, and were written by diplomats in the Australian embassy in Jakarta. The date was November 1976, less than a year after the Indonesian dictator General Suharto seized the then Portuguese colony on the island of Timor.

    The terror that followed has few parallels; not even Pol Pot succeeded in killing, proportionally, as many Cambodians as Suharto and his fellow generals killed in East Timor. Out of a population of almost a million, up to a third were extinguished.

    This was the second holocaust for which Suharto was responsible. A decade earlier, in 1965, Suharto wrested power in Indonesia in a bloodbath that took more than a million lives. The CIA reported: "In terms of numbers killed, the massacres rank as one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."

    This was greeted in the Western press as "a gleam of light in Asia"

    (Time). The BBC's correspondent in South East Asia, Roland Challis, later described the cover-up of the massacres as a triumph of media complicity and silence; the "official line" was that Suharto had "saved" Indonesia from a communist takeover.

    "Of course my British sources knew what the American plan was," he told me. "There were bodies being washed up on the lawns of the
    British consulate in Surabaya, and British warships escorted a ship full of Indonesian troops, so that they could take part in this terrible holocaust.
    It was only much later that we learned that the American embassy was supplying [Suharto with] names and ticking them off as they were killed. There was a deal, you see. In establishing the Suharto regime, the involvement of the [US-dominated] International Monetary Fund and the World Bank were part of it. That was the deal."

    I have interviewed many of the survivors of 1965, including the acclaimed Indonesian novelist Pramoedya Ananta Toer, who bore witness to an epic of suffering "forgotten" in the West because Suharto was "our man". A second holocaust in resource-rich East Timor, an undefended colony, was almost inevitable.

    In 1994, I filmed clandestinely in occupied East Timor; I found a land of crosses and unforgettable grief. In my film, Death of a Nation, there is a sequence shot on board an Australian aircraft flying over the Timor Sea. A party is in progress. Two men in suits are toasting each other in champagne. "This is a uniquely historical moment," babbles one of them, "that is truly, uniquely historical."

    This is Australia's foreign minister, Gareth Evans. The other man is Ali Alatas, the principal mouthpiece of Suharto. It is 1989 and they are making a symbolic flight to celebrate a piratical deal they called a "treaty". This allowed Australia, the Suharto dictatorship and the international oil companies to divide the spoils of East Timor's oil and gas resources.

    Thanks to Evans, Australia's then prime minister, Paul Keating -- who regarded Suharto as a father figure -- and a gang that ran Australia's foreign policy establishment, Australia distinguished itself as the only western country formally to recognise Suharto's genocidal conquest.

    The prize, said Evans, was "zillions" of dollars.

    Members of this gang reappeared the other day in documents found in the National Archives by two researchers from Monash University in Melbourne, Sara Niner and Kim McGrath. In their own handwriting, senior officials of the Department of Foreign Affairs mock reports of the rape, torture and execution of East Timorese by Indonesian troops. In scribbled annotations on a memorandum that refers to atrocities in a concentration camp, one diplomat wrote: "sounds like fun". Another wrote: "sounds like the population are in raptures."

    Referring to a report by the Indonesian resistance, Fretilin, that describes Indonesia as an "impotent" invader, another diplomat sneered: "If 'the enemy was impotent', as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?"


    The documents, says Sarah Niner, are "vivid evidence of the lack of empathy and concern for human rights abuses in East Timor" in the Department of Foreign Affairs. "The archives reveal that this culture of cover-up is closely tied to the DFA's need to recognise Indonesian sovereignty over East Timor so as to commence negotiations over the petroleum in the East Timor Sea."
     
    http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-rape-of-east-timor-sounds-like-fun-


    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it'd take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    I've come across many murkkan tourists who initially masquerade as other nationalities cuz they were too ashamed to be a yank, do you know why ?
    But make no mistake , all the five lies are up to the eyeballs in it.

    Considering the kind of shits you've done to the world,
    You should be mighty grateful that you and your ilks can still walk the earth freely , unmolested, unchallenge.
    The Chinese in particular have 1001 reasons to hate you, but there'r absolutely no hate crimes against anglos, fact is, I heard anglos are enjoying some rather undeserved reverence down there , WTF !
    yet you have the cheek to wanna kill them cuz of dog eating ?

    The more I see, the more Im convinced that fukusIndia pose an existential threat to the world at large , the Chinese in particular.

    Since no one can stop the fukusI juggernaut, the next best thing would be a self implosion.

    white genocide is a godsend,
    bring it on.
    Its the only hope for mother earth.

    Dont blame us,
    You've long drawn the battle line,
    its either you or us.


    P.S.
    You'r a typical white trash supremacist, a sorry excuse for a human being, old chap.

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,

    Even a abstract of their crimes with filled a huge library. Could you gather a few thousands scholars to start recording them down before we lose pace, as they are killing at a greater speed at better efficiency using proxy terrorists & WMD.

    Why SARs & birdflu only happen in Chinese predominant area? Don’t those birds migrate to the whites place, since Russia, Oz & Nz are so nearby. Even filthy India with every animals roaming the streets is too clean for the virus.

    But they said China very dirty & unhygienic with live poultry handling is reason. Wow, most sterilized clean Spore Chinese ethnic eating only US frozen Tyson chicken get hit, Taiwan, HK, Macao, SEAsia, …whether Chinese eat dog or not, no different. You have Chinese DNA, you are collateral damage…hehehehe

    USAF collected white Russians samples for clinical research. What Air Force got to do with that research? Must be USAid charity is giving away free Vodka addiction vaccines for all Russians tired of fighting Putin’s wars.

    Sound like last Vietnam & NK war, when they drop plagued-fleas as biological weapon to scrap bad commies after Agent Orange & Napalm wasn’t powerful enough.

    UNSC should at least authorize once for FUKUS to bomb Washington, London & Paris for using chem WMD, sure Russian & Chinese won’t veto this time.

    This may be the final solution for your survival…hehehehe(warning: in Chinese language only, not for faint heart)

    https://m.baidu.com/paw/c/m.tiexue.net/touch/thread_7074033_1.html%3Fmip

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    Thanks fort link above, good learn some

    请让段落休息一下,也许图片哈哈。 虚心的谢谢
    PS:狗看起来不错! 味道像鸡肉?

    , @denk
    murkkan soo, William Cohen, 1997

    some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.

     

    Translation
    USA was ready to deploy ethnic specific bioweapon and climate weapon as early as 1997.

    There was a rash of mysterious deaths of microbiologists in the following years, including bioweapon expert David Kelly, was he and others silenced cuz he was about to come clean on the secret ethnic specific bioweapon program ???
    http://rense.com/general62/list.htm

    In 2003,
    we had sars....which hits China, Singapore, SEA, ....

    'How convenient that Asia, and China in particular, is said to be the origin of this North American scourge at a time when Chinese–Anglo-American relations are strained to say the least.

    In the days preceding the emergence of the first SARS cases, American raced to the Pacific Rim to impact escalating aggressions on the Korean peninsula. Communist China—a “most favored” trading partner with America, is politically allied with several American enemies, including those said to possess weapons of mass destruction, including Iraq. Coincidental? Not likely when viewing the larger political picture involving the Ango-American oligarchy’s RMA and instigated “conflicts short of war.”
     
    http://www.healingcelebrations.com/SARS.htm

    The MSM had a field day deriding China's sanitary condition,
    but wait a min, why did India , that virtual shithole, had zero cases, while near first world Singapore was also hit badly ?

    Was sars the first field test of ethnic specific bioweapon ?

    Take a look at this map
    Even Toronto was hit, ......where there were large congregation of Chinese immigrants !

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/SARS_Global_Map3.jpg

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1812.cfm


    If it looks like a duck, .......
    , @denk
    utu,

    This post is remarkably similar to my thinking/

    1] SARS/bird flu were bioweapons targeting Chinese DNA,

    2] fukusIndia is an existential threat to the Chinese,

    Great men think alike ?

    FUKUSI has been warring against the Chinese since the Opium war,
    covert, overt, biowar, war of terrorism....
    disinfo war, you name it ! [1]

    Even Here, You make it abundantly clear that there's no place for both to co-exist,

    We'r unable to stop you,

    But gawd has prescribed a final solution,

    A white genocide

    Not by bombing them back to stone age,
    christ, we aint like them sadists.,

    Just genocide them by weapon of mass migration from all the unpeoples that they want to genocide.

    What a poetic justice,

    Bring it on !

    hehheheh
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  148. TT says:
    @renfro

    why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??
    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese
     
    Let me say it again...Fuck the Chinese...if it was up to me I would beat you motherfuckers with bats and then set you on fire before you are dead just like you primitive scum do to dogs.


    Yulin Dog Meat Festival 2016: 10,000 dogs to be killed and eaten at ...
    https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Asia
    Jun 21, 2016 - China's annual Yulin festival, in which thousands of dogs and cats will be murdered and eaten, has begun despite widespread international condemnation. An estimated 10,000 dogs and cats are expected to be used for meat during the 10 days of the festival, which takes place at Guangxi Zhuang

    Images for chinese dog killing festival
    https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+dog+killing+festival&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ_fGfr8TaAhUCY6wKHRkXAq4Q7AkIQQ&biw=800&bih=475

    Wow powerful.

    So what you gonna do to those Anglos-Americans-Franco-Israelis who slaughtered many millions of Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Yemenis, Iranians, Palestinian, Lebanons, Koreans, Viet, Indians, Japanese, Mexicans, Indonesian, Philippines, Burmese, Cambodian, Nepalese, Sri Lankans, South Africans, Africans, South Americans, Serbs, Russians, …nearly the whole world have been invaded by this axis of evils.

    Are these tens of millions human less worthy than those dogs Chinese eat them as food thousand years ago(domesticated from wolves) like we eat pork or beef?

    It must be ok if we whites do it, killing billions of animals to fill our stomach, slaughter millions of innocent humans to enrich our deep states, using thousands of dogs & monkeys for cruel pharmaceutical testing.

    Where are you renfro, with your mighty bats smashing each of these murderers, ooohhh so heroic & justice. What a hypocrite we people, they kill dogs for food traditionally, your boys kill innocent people for $, our butcher killed cattles & poultry for our feast.

    How many countries are eating dog meat traditionally. Not just China, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, Africans,…, a long list. You killing all or only Chinese as an ad homein excuse!?

    History of dog eating

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat

    Koreans Dogs & Cats Eating Festival

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/inside-south-koreas-dogeating-festival-where-suspicion-myth-and-cruelty-meet/news-story/ebb5d3a0af74096189cc21f5aaea96c4

    So before people point the finger and label the South Korean practice as savagery, Ms Fryer urges us to look at our own eating habits.

    “The thought of killing, cooking, dismembering, and eating dogs is enough for most of us to lose our lunch, but there’s no rational reason why that same revulsion shouldn’t arise at the thought of eating a pig or any other animal,” she said.

    “All animals about to be slaughtered feel terrified, and none wants to die. Right here in Australia, scared lambs, chickens, cows, and pigs are killed as we wilfully turn a blind eye to the fact that they’re no different from the dogs we cry for. It’s easy to point the finger at other cultures, but let’s be honest and decent enough to question our own cruel habits.”

    https://fightdogmeat.com/2016/07/20/south-korea-boknal-my-experience-at-the-dog-meat-festival/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat_consumption_in_South_Korea

    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/dog-meat-south-korea-olympics-explainer-spd/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi8-Yj7rMbaAhUQSo8KHYqgB4IQFjAPegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2I3mFh-BPwviHcrL8bsPNX

    Vietnam Dog & Cat Eating Festival

    https://fightdogmeat.com/2017/12/23/vietnam-cat-meat-christmas-vietnam/

    Vietnam & SK Christians are biggest customers, they celebrate Christmas & church activities with live dogs & cats meats.

    Start from putting away all your warmongers politicians. Stop eating meats. Then we talk about how to convince Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thais, Africans, & the rest to give up their traditional delicacy.

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  149. edNels says:
    @TT

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,
     
    Even a abstract of their crimes with filled a huge library. Could you gather a few thousands scholars to start recording them down before we lose pace, as they are killing at a greater speed at better efficiency using proxy terrorists & WMD.

    Why SARs & birdflu only happen in Chinese predominant area? Don't those birds migrate to the whites place, since Russia, Oz & Nz are so nearby. Even filthy India with every animals roaming the streets is too clean for the virus.

    But they said China very dirty & unhygienic with live poultry handling is reason. Wow, most sterilized clean Spore Chinese ethnic eating only US frozen Tyson chicken get hit, Taiwan, HK, Macao, SEAsia, …whether Chinese eat dog or not, no different. You have Chinese DNA, you are collateral damage…hehehehe

    USAF collected white Russians samples for clinical research. What Air Force got to do with that research? Must be USAid charity is giving away free Vodka addiction vaccines for all Russians tired of fighting Putin's wars.

    Sound like last Vietnam & NK war, when they drop plagued-fleas as biological weapon to scrap bad commies after Agent Orange & Napalm wasn't powerful enough.

    UNSC should at least authorize once for FUKUS to bomb Washington, London & Paris for using chem WMD, sure Russian & Chinese won't veto this time.

    This may be the final solution for your survival…hehehehe(warning: in Chinese language only, not for faint heart)
    https://m.baidu.com/paw/c/m.tiexue.net/touch/thread_7074033_1.html%3Fmip

    Thanks fort link above, good learn some

    请让段落休息一下,也许图片哈哈。 虚心的谢谢
    PS:狗看起来不错! 味道像鸡肉?

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  150. denk says:
    @TT

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,
     
    Even a abstract of their crimes with filled a huge library. Could you gather a few thousands scholars to start recording them down before we lose pace, as they are killing at a greater speed at better efficiency using proxy terrorists & WMD.

    Why SARs & birdflu only happen in Chinese predominant area? Don't those birds migrate to the whites place, since Russia, Oz & Nz are so nearby. Even filthy India with every animals roaming the streets is too clean for the virus.

    But they said China very dirty & unhygienic with live poultry handling is reason. Wow, most sterilized clean Spore Chinese ethnic eating only US frozen Tyson chicken get hit, Taiwan, HK, Macao, SEAsia, …whether Chinese eat dog or not, no different. You have Chinese DNA, you are collateral damage…hehehehe

    USAF collected white Russians samples for clinical research. What Air Force got to do with that research? Must be USAid charity is giving away free Vodka addiction vaccines for all Russians tired of fighting Putin's wars.

    Sound like last Vietnam & NK war, when they drop plagued-fleas as biological weapon to scrap bad commies after Agent Orange & Napalm wasn't powerful enough.

    UNSC should at least authorize once for FUKUS to bomb Washington, London & Paris for using chem WMD, sure Russian & Chinese won't veto this time.

    This may be the final solution for your survival…hehehehe(warning: in Chinese language only, not for faint heart)
    https://m.baidu.com/paw/c/m.tiexue.net/touch/thread_7074033_1.html%3Fmip

    murkkan soo, William Cohen, 1997

    some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.

    Translation
    USA was ready to deploy ethnic specific bioweapon and climate weapon as early as 1997.

    There was a rash of mysterious deaths of microbiologists in the following years, including bioweapon expert David Kelly, was he and others silenced cuz he was about to come clean on the secret ethnic specific bioweapon program ???

    http://rense.com/general62/list.htm

    In 2003,
    we had sars….which hits China, Singapore, SEA, ….

    ‘How convenient that Asia, and China in particular, is said to be the origin of this North American scourge at a time when Chinese–Anglo-American relations are strained to say the least.

    In the days preceding the emergence of the first SARS cases, American raced to the Pacific Rim to impact escalating aggressions on the Korean peninsula. Communist China—a “most favored” trading partner with America, is politically allied with several American enemies, including those said to possess weapons of mass destruction, including Iraq. Coincidental? Not likely when viewing the larger political picture involving the Ango-American oligarchy’s RMA and instigated “conflicts short of war.”

    http://www.healingcelebrations.com/SARS.htm

    The MSM had a field day deriding China’s sanitary condition,
    but wait a min, why did India , that virtual shithole, had zero cases, while near first world Singapore was also hit badly ?

    Was sars the first field test of ethnic specific bioweapon ?

    Take a look at this map
    Even Toronto was hit, …...where there were large congregation of Chinese immigrants !

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1812.cfm

    If it looks like a duck, …….

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    If i have broadband access using laptop i will able to give some better info. But slow data plan typing on small smart phone is very tedious & error prone.

    I hope Russia is well prepared and not be next victim like China. Putin has category pointed out, a gentle warning to his partners - FUKUS*.

    Soviet has tonnes of biological weapon research, although destroyed, archive is always there to Jumpstart.

    Globalresearch has some articles on US research using hyper powered antennas in Alaska to influence the stratosphere to control climate as weapon. Other countries have done similar research too albeit much smaller scale. That may be one reason we are seeing lot of funny weather, extreme drought with forest fire at one side, while another part has extreme severe flood.

    *Moonofalabama has adopted your FUKUS term in their writing, many like it. May be can add a IsIn for Israel & India occasionally..

    Utu is marking all my comments as troll, what's wrong for stating facts? Thot he himself had explain the diff betw troll & shill. He got mood swing once a mth like our office lady.
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  151. annamaria says:

    Here is an important morsel of information to stick it to Theresa & Boris:
    “…on 1st December 2015 the US Patent Office contacted the Patent Office of the Russian Federation asking for an opinion on the patentability of an invention by an American scientist T. Rubin. That US patent application concerns a special bullet designed specifically for administrating binary chemical agents and on page 11 contains the following words: “At least one of the active substances may be selected from nerve agents including… tabun (GA), sarin (GB), soman (GD), cyclosarin (GF), and VG, …VM, VR, VX, and [attention!] Novichok agents.”
    There is something more to ponder: “The OPCW inspectors [in Syria] are held up by the United Nations Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS) which has a say about any movement of UN aligned organizations in areas that might be dangerous. The UNDSS is led by an Australian police / intelligence officer. The holdup seems to be intended.” http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-who-holds-up-the-opcw-investigation-in-douma.html#comments
    Here is the Australian scoundrel that is stalling the investigation in Syria: https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/profiles/peter-drennan
    “Mr. Drennan has represented Australia in national and international policing forums, including the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) and the ASEAN Association of Heads of Police (ASEANAPOL)… He graduated from the FBI National Executive Institute programme in 2011.”
    Comment section: “Oz’s US/Zionist-approved political elites to whom the commander reports are all poodles. Consequently, when America tells Oz’s poodles to jump their standard response is “How high?” Their gutless acquiescence is not only embarrassing; it’s humiliating.”
    — Now we know who has been professionally betraying the courageous Australian citizen Julian Assange.

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  152. Sean says:

    Assange gets silly women to believe in him, and then he lets them down. Anyway. if Russia was being framed again and again by Britain the way you are claiming, Russia fearing imminent military attack, would cut off diplomatic relations with Britain, put all Russian armed forces on red alert and call up the reserves. Britain could not kid Russia that it was responsible for Skirpal and Alexander Litvinenko. And Russia would not just sit there loudly complaining as it is, if Britain tried that. It would do more than it is doing now, rely on it.

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    "Statement of A.Shulgin at the OPCW EC:"
    http://thesaker.is/statement-of-a-shulgin-at-the-opcw-ec/
    --- We do live in interesting time, unfortunately...
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  153. Sean says:
    @annamaria
    Thank you.
    There is more on the same: "Striking Syria: U.S. Shameless Violation of International Law. Fabricating Evidence and False Flag Operations," by Dr. Chandra Muzaffar
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/striking-syria-u-s-shameless-violation-of-international-law-fabricating-evidence-and-false-flag-operations/5636461
    "Assad ... had surrendered his arsenal of chemical weapons to the UN affiliated Dutch based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in 2013. This was verified by the OPCW. ...
    The Golan Heights which Israel captured in the 1967 War was formally annexed on 14 December 1981. It is important to note that it supplies water to Israel and contains oil, gas and minerals. With annexation, Israel asserted its perpetual sovereignty over Golan which to this day international law recognises as part of Syria. To translate its illegal annexation into political reality, Israel has for a number of years sought to oust the independent-minded government in Damascus and replace it with a puppet regime
    Defeat in Syria ... portends a significant shift in the power balance in the entire region ... a scenario that is totally unacceptable to the US and its allies like Britain and France. It is not a coincidence that in all these three countries, Israel and Zionism exercise inordinate influence. It is because Israel and its protectors are now uncertain about their dominance that they have chosen to flex their muscles.'
    -- The war against Syria is a war for Israel -- at the expense of western civilization.

    Egypt is the only Arab country that Israel fears. Assad was allowed to remain in power because he leads a weak country that is no threat. Assad was unable to defeat rag tag militias without heavy weapons meaningful AAA or air support.

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  154. annamaria says:
    @Sean
    Assange gets silly women to believe in him, and then he lets them down. Anyway. if Russia was being framed again and again by Britain the way you are claiming, Russia fearing imminent military attack, would cut off diplomatic relations with Britain, put all Russian armed forces on red alert and call up the reserves. Britain could not kid Russia that it was responsible for Skirpal and Alexander Litvinenko. And Russia would not just sit there loudly complaining as it is, if Britain tried that. It would do more than it is doing now, rely on it.

    “Statement of A.Shulgin at the OPCW EC:”

    http://thesaker.is/statement-of-a-shulgin-at-the-opcw-ec/

    — We do live in interesting time, unfortunately…

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  155. annamaria says:

    The queendom’s problems:
    “In Shulgin’s testimony at OPCW’s Hague HQ he points out the 8 fundamental British lies over the Skripal attack. He prefaces his remarks thusly:
    “I would like to start my speech with the words that belong to the great thinker Martin Luther, “A lie is like a snowball: the further you roll it, the bigger it becomes”.
    “This wise aphorism is fully applicable to politics. He who has chosen the path of deception will have to lie again and again, making up explanations for discrepancies, spreading disinformation and doing forgery, desperately using all means to cover the tracks of the lies and to hide the truth.
    “The United Kingdom has entered this slippery path. We can clearly see all of this on the example of the “Skripal case” fabricated by the British authorities, this poorly disguised anti-Russian provocation accompanied by an unprecedented propaganda campaign, taken up by a group of countries, and the finalized unprecedented expulsion of diplomats under a far-fetched pretext. Please, do not try to pass this group for the international community – it is far from that.”
    – The speech is like a breath of fresh air in a stuffy room contaminated and saturated with lies.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-who-holds-up-the-opcw-investigation-in-douma.html#comments

    http://thesaker.is/statement-of-a-shulgin-at-the-opcw-ec/

    — And don’t forget the kidnapping of a Russain citizen by the UK government:
    “Presently, the British authorities are zealously hiding Yulia Skripal from the media and the public. Her whereabouts are unknown. The Russian side, as well as her relatives (her cousin Victoria was refused an entry visa by the British authorities) are being denied access to her. She does not have the opportunity to go back to Russia and undergo medical examination and treatment.
    The abovementioned circumstances indicate that, in fact, the Russian citizen Yulia Skripal is being held hostage by the British authorities, held by force on the territory of the United Kingdom, subjected to psychological manipulation.”

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  156. TT says:
    @denk
    murkkan soo, William Cohen, 1997

    some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.

     

    Translation
    USA was ready to deploy ethnic specific bioweapon and climate weapon as early as 1997.

    There was a rash of mysterious deaths of microbiologists in the following years, including bioweapon expert David Kelly, was he and others silenced cuz he was about to come clean on the secret ethnic specific bioweapon program ???
    http://rense.com/general62/list.htm

    In 2003,
    we had sars....which hits China, Singapore, SEA, ....

    'How convenient that Asia, and China in particular, is said to be the origin of this North American scourge at a time when Chinese–Anglo-American relations are strained to say the least.

    In the days preceding the emergence of the first SARS cases, American raced to the Pacific Rim to impact escalating aggressions on the Korean peninsula. Communist China—a “most favored” trading partner with America, is politically allied with several American enemies, including those said to possess weapons of mass destruction, including Iraq. Coincidental? Not likely when viewing the larger political picture involving the Ango-American oligarchy’s RMA and instigated “conflicts short of war.”
     
    http://www.healingcelebrations.com/SARS.htm

    The MSM had a field day deriding China's sanitary condition,
    but wait a min, why did India , that virtual shithole, had zero cases, while near first world Singapore was also hit badly ?

    Was sars the first field test of ethnic specific bioweapon ?

    Take a look at this map
    Even Toronto was hit, ......where there were large congregation of Chinese immigrants !

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/SARS_Global_Map3.jpg

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1812.cfm


    If it looks like a duck, .......

    If i have broadband access using laptop i will able to give some better info. But slow data plan typing on small smart phone is very tedious & error prone.

    I hope Russia is well prepared and not be next victim like China. Putin has category pointed out, a gentle warning to his partners – FUKUS*.

    Soviet has tonnes of biological weapon research, although destroyed, archive is always there to Jumpstart.

    Globalresearch has some articles on US research using hyper powered antennas in Alaska to influence the stratosphere to control climate as weapon. Other countries have done similar research too albeit much smaller scale. That may be one reason we are seeing lot of funny weather, extreme drought with forest fire at one side, while another part has extreme severe flood.

    *Moonofalabama has adopted your FUKUS term in their writing, many like it. May be can add a IsIn for Israel & India occasionally..

    Utu is marking all my comments as troll, what’s wrong for stating facts? Thot he himself had explain the diff betw troll & shill. He got mood swing once a mth like our office lady.

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    fukus....

    I think its more than ten years back when I saw the poster 'deb is dead'' used it in MOA, I liked it so much and have been using it ever since,

    Its very elegant, fukus = fuck uk, us , two of the most egregious predators in human history,.

    With France's role in Libya, Syria,
    Fukus = fuck France, uk, us , !

    De Gaulle must be turning in his grave, seeing the aircraft carrier of his name sake doing fukus dirty works !

    heheheh

    P.S.
    utu is a moron.
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  157. TT says:
    @renfro

    why do ordinary anglos, indians also harbor such gratuitous malice towards Chinese ??
    Renfro
    Fuck the Chinese
     
    Let me say it again...Fuck the Chinese...if it was up to me I would beat you motherfuckers with bats and then set you on fire before you are dead just like you primitive scum do to dogs.


    Yulin Dog Meat Festival 2016: 10,000 dogs to be killed and eaten at ...
    https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Asia
    Jun 21, 2016 - China's annual Yulin festival, in which thousands of dogs and cats will be murdered and eaten, has begun despite widespread international condemnation. An estimated 10,000 dogs and cats are expected to be used for meat during the 10 days of the festival, which takes place at Guangxi Zhuang

    Images for chinese dog killing festival
    https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+dog+killing+festival&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ_fGfr8TaAhUCY6wKHRkXAq4Q7AkIQQ&biw=800&bih=475

    Be patient, Chinese is very status conscious & pragmatic. They will stop/regulate dogs (& cats) eating at some time when been repeatedly highlighted that its not inline with the world civilization view.

    They have already outlawed ivory trading completely even that was their ancient fine arts, prohibited rhinoceros horn & Tiger parts medicinal usage, discourage sharkfin, prohibited netting of migrating birds, clean up pollutions, promoting sustainable organic farming, reforestation, green energy, etc.

    These are very promising signs. They need to be encourage, not shame or admonish as they deem that’s as their few thousands traditional value like we eat pork/beef. SKoreans are more difficult, even their Prez was not able to make them suspend dog eating during Olympics.

    To have any moral value to do that, we must first clean up our own backyards of slaughtering stray dogs & cats, stop using animals for cruel experiment, and absolutely termina West endless wars & killings with all war criminals charged in ICJ(not for yellow & black skins only).

    Only then, we are fit to tell others what is deemed civilized behavior.

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    Im a animal lover, been raising lots of feline friends since childhood.

    Dog eating is a local event, not a national sport in China.
    its being opposed by an increasingly vocal group of animal lovers.....

    http://www.dw.com/en/chinas-new-love-affair-with-dogs-as-pets-not-food-presents-environmental-problems/a-19197523

    https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/yulin-dog-meat-festival-china-animal-rights-activists-rescue-cats-humane-society-international-hsi-a7800286.html

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78554771/animal-rights-activists-target-chinese-dog-meat-festival

    I value life, both human and animals,
    Im glad that in China my animal loving comrades are doing their best to wean the dog eaters from their habit, they'r confronting the dog vendors head on.

    If only the anglos would do the same to at least try stopping that fukus cabal from killing humans....and dogs as well !
    , @Anonymous
    How is eating dog qualitatively different to eating pigs? Pigs are pretty smart too.
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  158. annamaria says:

    A nice summary of the Skripal affair: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-skripals-have-survived-but-they-are-not-safe-the-novichok-fraud-should-bring-down-the-uk-government/5636754
    – Theresa & Boris appear as two consummate opportunists and spectacularly incompetent plotters. The same words fit the UK’s intelligence services that sorely miss intelligence. Exhibits One, Two and Three are Christopher Steele (the Trump dossier), Jonathan Allen (a “chemist” and trainer of “moderate” terrorists), and Mark Sedwill (the Skripal dossier). All three are bloody stupid and banally dishonest (their parents did a really poor job).
    Steele, Allen, and Sedwill should have been staying with the petty crimes, for which they are suited so well, instead of exposing the UK government as a House of Fools.

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  159. annamaria says:

    More on the UK Governments as the House of Fools: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-19/skripal-case-20-new-questions-journalists-might-start-asking
    – There are 20 questions that make the M16 and May’s cabinet look like imbeciles.

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  160. annamaria says:

    M16 brass et al:
    “Alexander William “Alex” Younger CMG (born 4 July 1963) is a career British intelligence officer for the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) who, from November 2014 has served as the Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service. … As of 2015, Younger was paid a salary of between £160,000 and £164,999, making him one of the 328 most highly paid people in the British public sector at that time.”
    — What about Mark Sedwill, a National Security Adviser in the Cabinet Office and author of the funny Skripal dossier? – “As of 2015, Sedwill was paid a salary of between £180,000 and £184,999, making him one of the 328 most highly paid people in the British public sector at that time.” https://www.voltairenet.org/article200816.html
    – Blairs’ fortune ($100 million) comes to mind… The Hegemon rewards nicely the pliable “peoples’ servants.”
    Skripal’s connection to M16: http://dennismichaellynch.com/claim-poisoned-russian-spy-linked-to-trump-dossier-author-video/

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    Thanks for all you hard work and great links .... did you read this yet?

    In their briefing to Congress, the director of national intelligence and the secretaries of defense and state reference “info circulating online,” Massie tweeted on Thursday, adding that this means they either don’t have conclusive proof or they chose not to provide it to Congress. “Either way, not good,” he added.
     
    https://www.rt.com/usa/424607-zero-real-evidence-assad-congressman/

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/986968440979247105

    Funny comments to the Guardian reported:

    https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/987092846871220224

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  161. tac says:

    Guardian and BBC came out with hit pieces blaming ‘Russian Trolls’ as conspiracy theorists blaming UK for the Skripal poisonings:

    Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/russia-fake-news-salisbury-poisoning-twitter-bots-uk?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They’ve seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were “staged” or were a “false flag” operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves “independent journalists”, and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/blogs-trending-43745629?__twitter_impression=true

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    Not sure what happened to the other links I provided, but they are responses from the 'Bots' the Guardian and BBC tried to paint as Russian trolls:

    https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/987323459700183040

    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/987334159151566849

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987338673774411777

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987243238926045184

    https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/986966653266223111
    , @tac
    Here's a video made by PartisanGirl "Russian Bot" made in response to the Guardian article:

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

     And here's Ian56789's response "Russian Bot" on Sky News made in response to the Guardian article:

       *****(Pay attention to the Sky News reporter's cutting off Ian akin to what they did to the British General & their attempts to smear him in this interview)*****

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJogpc3Uy34&feature=youtu.be

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987379491398914048

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  162. tac says:
    @annamaria
    M16 brass et al:
    "Alexander William "Alex" Younger CMG (born 4 July 1963) is a career British intelligence officer for the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) who, from November 2014 has served as the Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service. ... As of 2015, Younger was paid a salary of between £160,000 and £164,999, making him one of the 328 most highly paid people in the British public sector at that time."
    --- What about Mark Sedwill, a National Security Adviser in the Cabinet Office and author of the funny Skripal dossier? - "As of 2015, Sedwill was paid a salary of between £180,000 and £184,999, making him one of the 328 most highly paid people in the British public sector at that time." https://www.voltairenet.org/article200816.html
    -- Blairs' fortune ($100 million) comes to mind... The Hegemon rewards nicely the pliable "peoples' servants."
    Skripal's connection to M16: http://dennismichaellynch.com/claim-poisoned-russian-spy-linked-to-trump-dossier-author-video/

    Thanks for all you hard work and great links …. did you read this yet?

    In their briefing to Congress, the director of national intelligence and the secretaries of defense and state reference “info circulating online,” Massie tweeted on Thursday, adding that this means they either don’t have conclusive proof or they chose not to provide it to Congress. “Either way, not good,” he added.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/424607-zero-real-evidence-assad-congressman/

    Funny comments to the Guardian reported:

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    The ever-obliging Heather Stewart did not expect this coming: https://circusbuoy.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/the-guardian-russian-bots-and-the-dehumanisation-of-dissent/
    "Heather Stewart, The Guardian’s [chief stenographer] political editor, has [copied and pasted a press release] written a new article all about “Russian bots.”
    The article – headlined “Russia spread fake news via Twitter bots after Salisbury poisoning – analysis” – is a direct lie from the outset, as it offers absolutely no “analysis:”
    Heather Stewart: "Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.
    Heather Stewart simply directly quotes Whitehall via anonymous “sources”.

    -- The Guardian commenter asked the clueless Heather how come that the finding of two (2) supposed "Russian bots" could constitute a 4,000% increase in pro-Russia "trolling?"
    It seems that Heather Stewart, strictly for consideration of job security (nothing personal), has been keeping herself from any factual information related to the amazing Skripal affair. She is just a regular presstitute. We can be sure that Heather Stewart (an obliging stenographer) would never ask "inappropriate" questions like these "20 New Questions That Journalists Might Like To Start Asking"
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-19/skripal-case-20-new-questions-journalists-might-start-asking

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  163. tac says:
    @tac
    Guardian and BBC came out with hit pieces blaming 'Russian Trolls' as conspiracy theorists blaming UK for the Skripal poisonings:

    Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/russia-fake-news-salisbury-poisoning-twitter-bots-uk?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    ...

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/blogs-trending-43745629?__twitter_impression=true

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/987334242186289152

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987338673774411777

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987243238926045184

    https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/986966653266223111

    https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/987212002442395648

    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/987308428900126722

    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/986164289177378816

    Not sure what happened to the other links I provided, but they are responses from the ‘Bots’ the Guardian and BBC tried to paint as Russian trolls:

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  164. denk says:
    @TT
    If i have broadband access using laptop i will able to give some better info. But slow data plan typing on small smart phone is very tedious & error prone.

    I hope Russia is well prepared and not be next victim like China. Putin has category pointed out, a gentle warning to his partners - FUKUS*.

    Soviet has tonnes of biological weapon research, although destroyed, archive is always there to Jumpstart.

    Globalresearch has some articles on US research using hyper powered antennas in Alaska to influence the stratosphere to control climate as weapon. Other countries have done similar research too albeit much smaller scale. That may be one reason we are seeing lot of funny weather, extreme drought with forest fire at one side, while another part has extreme severe flood.

    *Moonofalabama has adopted your FUKUS term in their writing, many like it. May be can add a IsIn for Israel & India occasionally..

    Utu is marking all my comments as troll, what's wrong for stating facts? Thot he himself had explain the diff betw troll & shill. He got mood swing once a mth like our office lady.

    fukus….

    I think its more than ten years back when I saw the poster ‘deb is dead” used it in MOA, I liked it so much and have been using it ever since,

    Its very elegant, fukus = fuck uk, us , two of the most egregious predators in human history,.

    With France’s role in Libya, Syria,
    Fukus = fuck France, uk, us , !

    De Gaulle must be turning in his grave, seeing the aircraft carrier of his name sake doing fukus dirty works !

    heheheh

    P.S.
    utu is a moron.

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  165. denk says:
    @TT

    The above are just tip of an iceberg,
    it’d take a book of 5000 pages to fully document the crimes of the five lies,
     
    Even a abstract of their crimes with filled a huge library. Could you gather a few thousands scholars to start recording them down before we lose pace, as they are killing at a greater speed at better efficiency using proxy terrorists & WMD.

    Why SARs & birdflu only happen in Chinese predominant area? Don't those birds migrate to the whites place, since Russia, Oz & Nz are so nearby. Even filthy India with every animals roaming the streets is too clean for the virus.

    But they said China very dirty & unhygienic with live poultry handling is reason. Wow, most sterilized clean Spore Chinese ethnic eating only US frozen Tyson chicken get hit, Taiwan, HK, Macao, SEAsia, …whether Chinese eat dog or not, no different. You have Chinese DNA, you are collateral damage…hehehehe

    USAF collected white Russians samples for clinical research. What Air Force got to do with that research? Must be USAid charity is giving away free Vodka addiction vaccines for all Russians tired of fighting Putin's wars.

    Sound like last Vietnam & NK war, when they drop plagued-fleas as biological weapon to scrap bad commies after Agent Orange & Napalm wasn't powerful enough.

    UNSC should at least authorize once for FUKUS to bomb Washington, London & Paris for using chem WMD, sure Russian & Chinese won't veto this time.

    This may be the final solution for your survival…hehehehe(warning: in Chinese language only, not for faint heart)
    https://m.baidu.com/paw/c/m.tiexue.net/touch/thread_7074033_1.html%3Fmip

    utu,

    This post is remarkably similar to my thinking/

    1] SARS/bird flu were bioweapons targeting Chinese DNA,

    2] fukusIndia is an existential threat to the Chinese,

    Great men think alike ?

    FUKUSI has been warring against the Chinese since the Opium war,
    covert, overt, biowar, war of terrorism….
    disinfo war, you name it ! [1]

    Even Here, You make it abundantly clear that there’s no place for both to co-exist,

    We’r unable to stop you,

    But gawd has prescribed a final solution,

    A white genocide

    Not by bombing them back to stone age,
    christ, we aint like them sadists.,

    Just genocide them by weapon of mass migration from all the unpeoples that they want to genocide.

    What a poetic justice,

    Bring it on !

    hehheheh

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  166. denk says:
    @TT
    Be patient, Chinese is very status conscious & pragmatic. They will stop/regulate dogs (& cats) eating at some time when been repeatedly highlighted that its not inline with the world civilization view.

    They have already outlawed ivory trading completely even that was their ancient fine arts, prohibited rhinoceros horn & Tiger parts medicinal usage, discourage sharkfin, prohibited netting of migrating birds, clean up pollutions, promoting sustainable organic farming, reforestation, green energy, etc.

    These are very promising signs. They need to be encourage, not shame or admonish as they deem that's as their few thousands traditional value like we eat pork/beef. SKoreans are more difficult, even their Prez was not able to make them suspend dog eating during Olympics.

    To have any moral value to do that, we must first clean up our own backyards of slaughtering stray dogs & cats, stop using animals for cruel experiment, and absolutely termina West endless wars & killings with all war criminals charged in ICJ(not for yellow & black skins only).

    Only then, we are fit to tell others what is deemed civilized behavior.

    Im a animal lover, been raising lots of feline friends since childhood.

    Dog eating is a local event, not a national sport in China.
    its being opposed by an increasingly vocal group of animal lovers…..

    http://www.dw.com/en/chinas-new-love-affair-with-dogs-as-pets-not-food-presents-environmental-problems/a-19197523

    https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/yulin-dog-meat-festival-china-animal-rights-activists-rescue-cats-humane-society-international-hsi-a7800286.html

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78554771/animal-rights-activists-target-chinese-dog-meat-festival

    I value life, both human and animals,
    Im glad that in China my animal loving comrades are doing their best to wean the dog eaters from their habit, they’r confronting the dog vendors head on.

    If only the anglos would do the same to at least try stopping that fukus cabal from killing humans….and dogs as well !

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  167. annamaria says:
    @tac
    Thanks for all you hard work and great links .... did you read this yet?

    In their briefing to Congress, the director of national intelligence and the secretaries of defense and state reference “info circulating online,” Massie tweeted on Thursday, adding that this means they either don’t have conclusive proof or they chose not to provide it to Congress. “Either way, not good,” he added.
     
    https://www.rt.com/usa/424607-zero-real-evidence-assad-congressman/

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/986968440979247105

    Funny comments to the Guardian reported:

    https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/987092846871220224

    The ever-obliging Heather Stewart did not expect this coming: https://circusbuoy.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/the-guardian-russian-bots-and-the-dehumanisation-of-dissent/
    “Heather Stewart, The Guardian’s [chief stenographer] political editor, has [copied and pasted a press release] written a new article all about “Russian bots.”
    The article – headlined “Russia spread fake news via Twitter bots after Salisbury poisoning – analysis” – is a direct lie from the outset, as it offers absolutely no “analysis:”
    Heather Stewart: “Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.
    Heather Stewart simply directly quotes Whitehall via anonymous “sources”.

    – The Guardian commenter asked the clueless Heather how come that the finding of two (2) supposed “Russian bots” could constitute a 4,000% increase in pro-Russia “trolling?”
    It seems that Heather Stewart, strictly for consideration of job security (nothing personal), has been keeping herself from any factual information related to the amazing Skripal affair. She is just a regular presstitute. We can be sure that Heather Stewart (an obliging stenographer) would never ask “inappropriate” questions like these “20 New Questions That Journalists Might Like To Start Asking”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-19/skripal-case-20-new-questions-journalists-might-start-asking

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  168. denk says:

    More on bird flu, swine flu, sars…….

    After Chinese PLA Colonel Dai Xu posted a scathing attack on the United States, accusing the primary global power of releasing H7N9 as a bioweapon on the mainland of China, the U.S. was quick to respond, denying the allegations. However, Dai Xu’s accusation, posted on the Chinese microblog Sina Weibu, brings up an inconvenient fact. The United States has already been documented as violating the international biological weapons treaty, known as the BWC and has launched a covert program of offensive biological warfare research.

    https://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/united-states-accused-of-planting-avian.html

    Unlike the serial lying scumbags who run the five lies,
    The Chinese dont make frivolous accusations on foreign countries willy nilly.
    When someone of Col Dai’s status made such a serious charge at fukus, its no small matter, you sit up and listen !

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    Chinese/Russian may retaliate if FUKUSIsIn launched biological weapon get out of control causing massive death like Ebola outbreak. The world is mad, need to GMO my DNA to survive.
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  169. tac says:
    @tac
    Guardian and BBC came out with hit pieces blaming 'Russian Trolls' as conspiracy theorists blaming UK for the Skripal poisonings:

    Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack,– many of which were identifiable as automated bots.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/russia-fake-news-salisbury-poisoning-twitter-bots-uk?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Despite the uncertainty about what happened in Douma, a cluster of influential social media activists is certain that it knows what occurred on 7 April.

    They've seized on a theory being floated by Russian officials and state-owned media outlets that the attacks were "staged" or were a "false flag" operation, carried out by jihadist groups or spies in order to put the blame on the Assad government and provide a justification for Western intervention.

    The group includes activists and people who call themselves "independent journalists", and several have Twitter followings reaching into the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    ...

    According to their narrative, international media organisations across the political spectrum, along with human rights organisations, are somehow covertly aligned with Western governments, Saudi Arabia, the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda and taking part in a secretive plot to take over Syria.
     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/blogs-trending-43745629?__twitter_impression=true

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/987334242186289152

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987338673774411777

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987243238926045184

    https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/986966653266223111

    https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/987212002442395648

    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/987308428900126722

    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/986164289177378816

    Here’s a video made by PartisanGirl “Russian Bot” made in response to the Guardian article:

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    The comment above only shows Ian56's link, but not PartisanGirl's ...

    I'm not sure what happened to the link to PartisanGirl's response to the Guardian article but here it is again:
    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

    Also RT has an article on these 'Russian Bots':

    https://www.rt.com/uk/424716-uk-government-accuse-bot-russia/

    , @RobinG
    Lendman lists details of airstrikes, from Konasenkov.

    True Targets of US-Led Aggression in Syria
    http://stephenlendman.org/2018/04/true-targets-us-led-aggression-syria/
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  170. tac says:
    @tac
    Here's a video made by PartisanGirl "Russian Bot" made in response to the Guardian article:

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

     And here's Ian56789's response "Russian Bot" on Sky News made in response to the Guardian article:

       *****(Pay attention to the Sky News reporter's cutting off Ian akin to what they did to the British General & their attempts to smear him in this interview)*****

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJogpc3Uy34&feature=youtu.be

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987379491398914048

    The comment above only shows Ian56′s link, but not PartisanGirl’s …

    I’m not sure what happened to the link to PartisanGirl’s response to the Guardian article but here it is again:

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    MoA also did a great write-up on this subject:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-media-war-on-truthful-reporting-and-legitimate-opinions-a-documentary.html#more
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  171. RobinG says:
    @tac
    Here's a video made by PartisanGirl "Russian Bot" made in response to the Guardian article:

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

     And here's Ian56789's response "Russian Bot" on Sky News made in response to the Guardian article:

       *****(Pay attention to the Sky News reporter's cutting off Ian akin to what they did to the British General & their attempts to smear him in this interview)*****

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJogpc3Uy34&feature=youtu.be

    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/987379491398914048

    Lendman lists details of airstrikes, from Konasenkov.

    True Targets of US-Led Aggression in Syria

    http://stephenlendman.org/2018/04/true-targets-us-led-aggression-syria/

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  172. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @TT
    Be patient, Chinese is very status conscious & pragmatic. They will stop/regulate dogs (& cats) eating at some time when been repeatedly highlighted that its not inline with the world civilization view.

    They have already outlawed ivory trading completely even that was their ancient fine arts, prohibited rhinoceros horn & Tiger parts medicinal usage, discourage sharkfin, prohibited netting of migrating birds, clean up pollutions, promoting sustainable organic farming, reforestation, green energy, etc.

    These are very promising signs. They need to be encourage, not shame or admonish as they deem that's as their few thousands traditional value like we eat pork/beef. SKoreans are more difficult, even their Prez was not able to make them suspend dog eating during Olympics.

    To have any moral value to do that, we must first clean up our own backyards of slaughtering stray dogs & cats, stop using animals for cruel experiment, and absolutely termina West endless wars & killings with all war criminals charged in ICJ(not for yellow & black skins only).

    Only then, we are fit to tell others what is deemed civilized behavior.

    How is eating dog qualitatively different to eating pigs? Pigs are pretty smart too.

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    Pigs are known to be smarter than dog, so are monkeys, dolphins, whales, etc. Even every cows are smart, they all cry and refuse to enter abattoir. Foxes & wolves are much smarter, but they are hunted down for game.

    But we humans think we are smartest. My Christian sister said gawd created every animals as our food, but her beloved dog is not allowed, so hypocrite…

    Chinese loves dogs too. Some are carry in trolleys like little Emperor. Since ancient time dogs were kept as pets by Imperial & wealthy family, only poor ate them.
    https://qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dog-stroller.jpg

    May be less than 0.1% eat dogs. Still i hope all could give up one day. Many Chinese animal rights activists are campaigning to outlaw it, but dog eaters said: "Don't the West said we should have human rights? That has been our culture since 1000BC and we use it for medicinal purpose." So who got bigger rights, dog or man?

    https://www.urdogs.com/there-are-11-countries-which-eat-dogs-one-of-them-is-european/
    Actually Europeans eat dogs & cats even in 1940's. But as dogs become more useful, it make no sense to train & eat them..

    Switzerland: The Swiss rural Cantons of Appenzell and St. Gallen are known to have had a tradition of eating dog meat and using the lard for medicinal purposes.

    Arctic and Antarctic: Dogs have always been an emergency food source for people in Siberia, Alaska, Greenland and northern Canada. Usually, Sled dogs are maintained for pulling sleds, but when no other food is available, they are eaten.

     

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  173. ValmMond says:
    @Stonehands
    “Yes, AngloZionist are itching for WWIII. I see, you are in quite a rush yourself.
    Do you have your nuclear shelter ready or just a death wish....”

    “Or fanboys of your kind who have seen war and combat in movies and in computer games only...”

    TT plainly restated the facts as the Russians themselves delivered them in the week leading up to the missile attack, your vituperations notwithstanding...

    Wrong. TT misquoted.

    Here’s the exact Guerassimov’s statement (with EVERY word carefully chosen and weighted):

    “In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, the Russian Armed Forces will take retaliatory measures against both, the missiles as well as the carriers from which they will be launched” (emphasis mine). Here is the original, in case you read Russian: “В случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять.”
    The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was “threat to the lives of our servicemen”. Putin left himself a leeway for appreciation of what constitutes a “threat”.
    Mattis made sure not to come close to anything Russians could interpret as a threat.

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    “The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was “threat to the lives of our servicemen...”

    Pompeo bragged at a recent press conference of the death of 100’s of Russians “who met their match.” But l suppose that doesn’t count since it was before “случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять.”

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  174. TT says:
    @Anonymous
    How is eating dog qualitatively different to eating pigs? Pigs are pretty smart too.

    Pigs are known to be smarter than dog, so are monkeys, dolphins, whales, etc. Even every cows are smart, they all cry and refuse to enter abattoir. Foxes & wolves are much smarter, but they are hunted down for game.

    But we humans think we are smartest. My Christian sister said gawd created every animals as our food, but her beloved dog is not allowed, so hypocrite…

    Chinese loves dogs too. Some are carry in trolleys like little Emperor. Since ancient time dogs were kept as pets by Imperial & wealthy family, only poor ate them.

    May be less than 0.1% eat dogs. Still i hope all could give up one day. Many Chinese animal rights activists are campaigning to outlaw it, but dog eaters said: “Don’t the West said we should have human rights? That has been our culture since 1000BC and we use it for medicinal purpose.” So who got bigger rights, dog or man?

    https://www.urdogs.com/there-are-11-countries-which-eat-dogs-one-of-them-is-european/

    Actually Europeans eat dogs & cats even in 1940′s. But as dogs become more useful, it make no sense to train & eat them..

    Switzerland: The Swiss rural Cantons of Appenzell and St. Gallen are known to have had a tradition of eating dog meat and using the lard for medicinal purposes.

    Arctic and Antarctic: Dogs have always been an emergency food source for people in Siberia, Alaska, Greenland and northern Canada. Usually, Sled dogs are maintained for pulling sleds, but when no other food is available, they are eaten.

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    Right. So the only qualitatively superior platform would be pure vegetarianism?
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  175. TT says:
    @denk
    More on bird flu, swine flu, sars.......

    After Chinese PLA Colonel Dai Xu posted a scathing attack on the United States, accusing the primary global power of releasing H7N9 as a bioweapon on the mainland of China, the U.S. was quick to respond, denying the allegations. However, Dai Xu’s accusation, posted on the Chinese microblog Sina Weibu, brings up an inconvenient fact. The United States has already been documented as violating the international biological weapons treaty, known as the BWC and has launched a covert program of offensive biological warfare research.
     
    https://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/united-states-accused-of-planting-avian.html

    Unlike the serial lying scumbags who run the five lies,
    The Chinese dont make frivolous accusations on foreign countries willy nilly.
    When someone of Col Dai's status made such a serious charge at fukus, its no small matter, you sit up and listen !

    Chinese/Russian may retaliate if FUKUSIsIn launched biological weapon get out of control causing massive death like Ebola outbreak. The world is mad, need to GMO my DNA to survive.

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  176. @ValmMond
    Wrong. TT misquoted.

    Here's the exact Guerassimov's statement (with EVERY word carefully chosen and weighted):

    "In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, the Russian Armed Forces will take retaliatory measures against both, the missiles as well as the carriers from which they will be launched" (emphasis mine). Here is the original, in case you read Russian: "В случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять."
    The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was "threat to the lives of our servicemen". Putin left himself a leeway for appreciation of what constitutes a "threat".
    Mattis made sure not to come close to anything Russians could interpret as a threat.

    “The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was “threat to the lives of our servicemen…”

    Pompeo bragged at a recent press conference of the death of 100’s of Russians “who met their match.” But l suppose that doesn’t count since it was before “случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять.”

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    Pompeo bragged at a recent press conference of the death of 100’s of Russians
     
    And if you can't trust Pompeo who can you trust? Russians soldiers did die
    in Syria. Last February 7, "Wagner" - a private military company lost (depending on the sources) between 15 and 200 Russian contractors. Wagner's men joined Syrian forces in a move to secure an oil refinery near Deir ez-Zor - formerly belonging to Conoco. A massive US air strike tried to stop them. Allegedly, American didn't know Russians were present. Besides, those were not regular servicemen. That's not an excuse and Putin came under heavy pressure to retaliate. Presidential election was a few weeks away and he decided not to escalate. Punishment was delayed, not annulled.
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  177. annamaria says:

    Where is Tucker Carlson? – “Tucker Carlson MIA for 2 Days After Exposing Syria Gas Hoax:” http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/tucker-carlson-mia-for-2-days-after-exposing-syria-gas-hoax-deep-state-revenge/

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    I am surprised that Tucker was able to go rogue for as long as he did. That it did last more than one or two days may suggest that he had at least tacit support from Murdoch - and it took a few days for deep state to get organised and find the right size of thumbscrews for Murdoch.

    Tucker did some courageous interviews in the past, for example with Tulsi Gabbard, but the way he came out recently was stunning. He can't have had any illusions about his chances of long-term survival - probably concluded "I want no part of this" and decided to make a stand. Hats off to him.

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  178. ValmMond says:
    @Stonehands
    “The declared triggering event for a Russian military response was “threat to the lives of our servicemen...”

    Pompeo bragged at a recent press conference of the death of 100’s of Russians “who met their match.” But l suppose that doesn’t count since it was before “случае возникновения угрозы жизни нашим военнослужащим Вооруженные Силы России примут ответные меры воздействия как по ракетам, так и носителям, которые их будут применять.”

    Pompeo bragged at a recent press conference of the death of 100’s of Russians

    And if you can’t trust Pompeo who can you trust? Russians soldiers did die
    in Syria. Last February 7, “Wagner” – a private military company lost (depending on the sources) between 15 and 200 Russian contractors. Wagner’s men joined Syrian forces in a move to secure an oil refinery near Deir ez-Zor – formerly belonging to Conoco. A massive US air strike tried to stop them. Allegedly, American didn’t know Russians were present. Besides, those were not regular servicemen. That’s not an excuse and Putin came under heavy pressure to retaliate. Presidential election was a few weeks away and he decided not to escalate. Punishment was delayed, not annulled.

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  179. Mike P says:
    @annamaria
    Where is Tucker Carlson? - "Tucker Carlson MIA for 2 Days After Exposing Syria Gas Hoax:" http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/tucker-carlson-mia-for-2-days-after-exposing-syria-gas-hoax-deep-state-revenge/

    I am surprised that Tucker was able to go rogue for as long as he did. That it did last more than one or two days may suggest that he had at least tacit support from Murdoch – and it took a few days for deep state to get organised and find the right size of thumbscrews for Murdoch.

    Tucker did some courageous interviews in the past, for example with Tulsi Gabbard, but the way he came out recently was stunning. He can’t have had any illusions about his chances of long-term survival – probably concluded “I want no part of this” and decided to make a stand. Hats off to him.

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  180. I think Putin and Trump are doing a pas de deux – just like the periodic episodes with the phony phatso Kim. These plutocrats don’t want to spoil the technotronic global surveillance state that they have painstakingly assembled- but my bet is on a “Great Denouement” occurring because of typical human frailties: hubris, greed, over- weening pride- which enables moral entropy because of material wealth and the intellectual capacity to amplify and justify these sins.

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  181. Anonymous[989] • Disclaimer says:
    @TT
    Pigs are known to be smarter than dog, so are monkeys, dolphins, whales, etc. Even every cows are smart, they all cry and refuse to enter abattoir. Foxes & wolves are much smarter, but they are hunted down for game.

    But we humans think we are smartest. My Christian sister said gawd created every animals as our food, but her beloved dog is not allowed, so hypocrite…

    Chinese loves dogs too. Some are carry in trolleys like little Emperor. Since ancient time dogs were kept as pets by Imperial & wealthy family, only poor ate them.
    https://qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dog-stroller.jpg

    May be less than 0.1% eat dogs. Still i hope all could give up one day. Many Chinese animal rights activists are campaigning to outlaw it, but dog eaters said: "Don't the West said we should have human rights? That has been our culture since 1000BC and we use it for medicinal purpose." So who got bigger rights, dog or man?

    https://www.urdogs.com/there-are-11-countries-which-eat-dogs-one-of-them-is-european/
    Actually Europeans eat dogs & cats even in 1940's. But as dogs become more useful, it make no sense to train & eat them..

    Switzerland: The Swiss rural Cantons of Appenzell and St. Gallen are known to have had a tradition of eating dog meat and using the lard for medicinal purposes.

    Arctic and Antarctic: Dogs have always been an emergency food source for people in Siberia, Alaska, Greenland and northern Canada. Usually, Sled dogs are maintained for pulling sleds, but when no other food is available, they are eaten.

     

    Right. So the only qualitatively superior platform would be pure vegetarianism?

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  182. Ace says:
    @Sean
    If the US wanted to take on Russia it would have done it in the Ukraine. The US could have taken out Assad with one week of air strikes, before the Russian arrived. They didn't because Syria is not worth it.

    Assad regieme n authorities declared to the relevant international organisation years ago that they had a chemical and bacterial weapons program, and Russia cooperated in the hand over for destruction of all such declared Assad assets .There is a convention against use of chemical weapons and Assad has breached it repeated in the Syrian civil war( that started when he stupidly put up the price of basic necessities) . Anyway he got a second slap on the wrist, and he knows what to do if he wants another one.

    ** Syria is not worth it. **

    On the contrary, the US appears to be obsessed with Syria. And whatever the true interests of the US are, they are precisely what the elite wish to avoid at all costs.

    Sure Assad used chemical weapons. To achieve no tactical advantage ever and guaranteed to stir up Western liars, manipulators, and bed wetters to his strategic disadvantage. Sure. He’s THAT stupid. Let’s see now . . . a rational, gentlemanly medical professional used chemical weapons or jihadi terrorist scum used chemical weapons? Whoa. That’s a really tough one.

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  183. Ace says:
    @Sean
    Obama could have attacked the Alawite family dictatorship in Syria on his own authority without asking anyone. He didn't, Under Trump there have been attacks of little materiel significance that haven't done anything to halt the advance of the Assad regieme territory; victories won by Iranian infantry and Russian ground attack planes. The West would simply like him to meet his obligations and stop gassing people as there is an international agreement against killing people that way. Why can't he just stick to the normal use of high explosives to blast them to pieces?

    There’s also an international agreement prohibiting aggressive war. Perhaps you can alert the State Department. Nikki hasn’t heard of it either. Alert her too!

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  184. Ace says:
    @RobinG
    Some good news on the home front.
    Yesterday, 30 pro-Palestinian-rights Jewish Americans with If Not Now demanded that Sen. Cardin condemn Israel's violence toward peacefully protesting Gazans.
    The way out of this doomsday spiral is that Israel fairly peacefully implodes, a la USSR.
    It could happen. 2021.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/jewish-activists-storm-senator-s-office-as-lawmakers-sound-off-on-gaza-1.6008583
    Jewish Activists Storm Senator's Office as Lawmakers Sound Off on Israel's Conduct at Gaza Border

    The movie “Exodus” would receive a chilly reception if produced today,

    Arab terrorism was a ghastly mistake and yielded only considerable sympathy for Israel.

    But now that good will has evaporated and only fear of personal, economic, or political retribution controls.

    Now there is much clarity on AIPAC, SPLC, BB, ADL, AJC, HIAS, the Adelson Primary, the JDL, the Liberty, Pollard, Barbara the Spiller of the Beans, Soros, sayonim, neocons, Jewish representation in Bolshevism and radical leftist causes, media concentration and ownership, endless demonization of Nazis, dual citizenship, Jewish manipulation over The Holocaust but complete and utter silence about the Other Holocausts, destruction of basic rights in the name of fighting “anti-Semitism,” inordinate worldwide political and economic control, immigration fanaticism (remember 1965!), Gelbaum and the Sierra Club, the Frankfurt School, the content of the Talmud, supremacism, Rabbi Schneerson quotes, in-group loyalty, Ashkenazis, the Yinon Plan, monoethnic Israel but diversity for the goyim, the Sampson Option, aggressive war in Syria, the astronomical worldwide political distortions of Zionism, billions in aid to Israel for what exactly, fairy tales about Israel as our BFF in the ME, and now outrageous killing of demonstrators in Gaza with hogwash about mortal threats to the border.

    For the truth about Zionism as a non-Jewish phenomenon the thinking of some religious Jews is amazing. Intelligence and astonishing good sense.

    The long and the short of Israel is that the British promised Zionists land that was not theirs to dispose of to solve a problem the owners thereof did not create. Zionistas think some vaporous title to Israel is theirs because some completely different guys lived there 2,000 years ago and then moved or got absorbed somewhere. They have established this patent nonsense by force of arms and maintain it by force of arms. Thus they enjoy sovereignty for the moment but they are kidding themselves if “Live by the sword, die by the sword” doesn’t apply to them. Is there any good will left?

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  185. tac says:
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    The comment above only shows Ian56's link, but not PartisanGirl's ...

    I'm not sure what happened to the link to PartisanGirl's response to the Guardian article but here it is again:
    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/987386740104036352

    Also RT has an article on these 'Russian Bots':

    https://www.rt.com/uk/424716-uk-government-accuse-bot-russia/

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  186. @CanSpeccy

    The technical ability of Porton Down to identify a chemical has never been in doubt, and the only “finding of the United Kingdom”the OPCW has confirmed is the identity of the chemical.
     
    But what neither the British Government nor the OPCW have, to the present, acknowledged is that blood samples from the Skripal's contained two nerve agents, A-234, aka Novichok, plus 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate, aka BZ or Buzz.

    Novichok is a convulsant (which acts by preventing the breakdown of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine at the neuromuscular junction, with the result that muscles go into full contraction, hence the symptoms of convulsions, vomiting, etc.), whereas BZ is a paralytic agent (which acts by binding to acetylcholine receptors at the neuromuscular junction without activating them, thereby preventing muscle contraction, hence the symptoms of paralysis and ultimately death by asphyxiation).

    Thus, BZ will serve as an antidote to Novichok poisoning, wheras Novichok will serve as an antidote to BZ poisoning. So the presence of Novichok in the Skipal blood samples is not conclusive evidence that Novichok was the poison, rather than the antidote, as I have discussed here: 3-Quinuclidinyl Benzilate: The Antidote to Novichok, and here: Novichok: Russia's Antidote to Seafood Poisoning.

    The real reason that I had to resign – and why Rex Tillerson was fired – is that we panicked when the Russians discovered our plan to set them up over nerve gas in Syria. We had made some Novichok at Porton Down and delivered it to one of our assets nearby (he was our spy remember). He was to give it to his daughter to smuggle to Syria so that we could stage a gas attack that would be blamed on Syria and Russia. In fact it would be so terrible that the Russians would withdraw from Syria, leaving the Saudi plan of regime change and the Israeli plan of balkanisation of the Middle East on track. Unfortunately the Russians got wind of it and disabled our assets with a different nerve agent BZ and took our Novichok. The reason that I had to resign is that the MI6 handler went down sick and someone thought he had been infected by the Novichok and we let the cat out of the bag. Turned out he wasn’t but by then it was too late. Of course I wasn’t paying attention to any of this as I spend all my time with my brother Roland trying to undermine Brexit. All we could do was claim that the Russians had tried to assassinate their former agent in an incredibly clumsy and obvious way – and hadn’t even succeeded.

    Of course the Russians knew that we knew that they knew, so to speak. They had used a nerve agent in Salisbury, but it was BZ and used to obtain our nerve agent that was part of a regime change plan. So we didn’t attempt to find anyone (no manhunt, no appeal for witnesses etc) and they made references to us making it and warned of a false flag attack in Syria. The UK government still needed an attack on Syria to help the ‘rebels’ so pressured the white helmets to find an opportunity to stage one. Of course there was no ‘Russian’ nerve agent to use so it all went off half cocked as you might say. Trump found out, was furious and sacked Tillerson the same day the Russians warned of a false flag. He then went through the charade of blowing up empty buildings, but Theresa was furious at being exposed and needing to come up with spurious justifications for our pre planned attack. Thus my days were numbered and I lasted as long as it took to cook up a pretext about immigration.

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