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This past Saturday night, August 12, the media was filled to overflowing with nothing but lurid and hysterical accounts of the “violence” and the “massacre” by so-called “white nationalists” (alternately identified as “white supremacists” or “white racists”) inflicted on poor, innocent “counter demonstrators” in Charlottesville who were “protesting hate and bigotry.” That’s the narrative that showed up, including wall-to-wall coverage on Fox, overpowering everything else, and spewed forth as if handed down from Mount Olympus by assorted “wise” Republican senators, including most notably Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, and John McCain, whose biggest complaint was that Donald Trump somehow did not specify that the violence was exclusively caused by something that is termed the “Alt-right.”

Nary a word about the ultimate and real responsibility of the American Left for a continuing history of violence, nary a word about the responsibility of the so-called “resist Trump” organizations and their actions, nary a word about the uncontrolled rampaging of the Black Lives Matter movement (e.g., Ferguson, Baltimore, etc.), nary a word about the stepped up and planned confrontations by the “antifa” (self-titled “antifascists”) militants. That is, not one word about the history of virulent street action, fire bombing, trashing of private property, and, yes, attempts to kill anyone (e.g., Representative Steve Scalise) to the perceived right of, say, John McCain, anyone who might in any way say a good word about Donald Trump, or defend older American traditions and beliefs.

Continually, the networks portray what happened Saturday as simply the manifestation of extremism and bigotry from the Right. And practically the only voice that got even remotely close to a rational perspective came from, quite ironically, a black professor, Carol Swain at Vanderbilt University, who distinguished between the very legitimate desires, aspirations and fears of America’s under-attack white majority and the misapprehension that somehow those desires equal inevitably “white racism” or “white supremacy.” As Swain indicated, what has happened during the past few decades is a palpable marginalization of millions of hard working Americans, mostly white and mostly Christian, who have been sidelined and left behind by the advancing progressivist revolution (these last words are mine). They are not naturally “racists” or even “white supremacists,” but rather they seek to guarantee their own survival, and the survival of their families, their communities, and their culture. They have seen the standards, beliefs, traditions, morality and customs that they inherited and have cherished—they have seen them attacked, ridiculed, and, in many cases, banned, even criminalized.

The so-called “Alt-right” march and their demonstration in Charlottesville, then, must be seen as something of a predictable boiling over of that legitimate and simmering sentiment. Protesting the attempt to take down the historic Robert E. Lee statue was not, in this sense, the underlying reason for the Alt-right protest. Rather, it served as a much broader, if much angrier and extreme, reminder of what is and has been occurring in our society, a symbol of the continuing destruction of this nation and its history by those who zealously possess and attempt to impose a world view, a template, which is the antithesis of those beliefs and that faith that millions of us have inherited and which we hold dear and believe.

The attacks by nearly the entirety of the media—including notably Fox—on the “Alt-right” demonstrators as “white racists” and “white supremacists,” then, is not only misguided scattershot, but it partakes in the dominant and ideologically leftist Deep State establishment narrative which posits as absolute truth that “hate,” “bigotry,” “racism,” ad nauseum, only come from what they identity as the “far” or “extreme” right, or more recently, “Alt-right.” And those terms are all-inclusive for anyone who dissents even in the slightest from the ongoing progressivist Revolution.

Thus, when the president condemned violence from “both sides,” it was as if Mount Vesuvius had erupted and had poured down its ash and lava all over Pompei! The Mainstream Media went literally berserk in outrage and demanded that he specify by name the “right” and “rightist violence.” And in jumped with both feet the obsequiously sickening Marco Rubio and Karl Rove, obedient to the standard Deep State mindset, urging the president to condemn “white nationalism” and “white supremacy.”

And so it went throughout that afternoon and evening…until I finally couldn’t take it any longer, and switched over to watch John Wayne in John Ford’s 1950 film masterpiece, “Rio Grande.” (It is always a gracious reward at the end to hear the Yankee band strike up “Dixie” as the Union troops pass in review!)

Certainly, the Alt-right demonstrators in Charlottesville included some extreme elements. Certainly, some would advocate a form of “supremacy,” or rather a return to a time when white people had more authority in this nation. And, yes, they were very angry—angry after watching the dozens of violent manifestations by those revolutionaries of the Left, those “resisters” and “antifa” Marxists and Anarchists, those rampaging Black Lives Matter zealots for whom any law enforcement action against any black person is, ipso facto, “racist” and “police brutality,” legitimizing their burning out of whole neighborhoods in Baltimore and Ferguson. And, yes, driving a car murderously into the assembled counter-demonstrators, however much provocation there may have been, was unjustified and counter-productive and very probably criminal.

All of this was predictable and even perhaps inevitable, given what has happened in the country. Indeed, is it not a product of the over-the-top rhetoric, the apocalyptic imagery and the violent reaction from the forces and minions of the Deep State managerial establishment to last year’s election and any attempt to reverse their jealously-guarded domination over us all?

Recently, Peter Brimelow, editor of VDare.com wrote a piece on his web site, entitled “there will be blood.” And the implication was and is this: for far too long, we middle Americans, we “deplorables,” oppressed and suppressed by an increasingly revolutionary, radically multiculturalist, culturally Marxist, suffocating overlay that drains out our historic being and essence as a people, have more or less obediently acceded to the Revolution and its infectious cancer. Beginning last November, but actually before that, that passivity was interrupted, and millions of citizens, understanding, if intuitively, that their lives and their country were slipping away from their control, stood up and cried: “No further!”

And the dominant forces in our culture have responded furiously. At first those of us who wished to defend our traditions and our historic Western Christian culture sought to meet their assault traditionally, within the accustomed methods and pathways of our republic. But it was they—the forces of the increasingly hysterical Deep State and their stormtrooper antifa street fighters, Black Lives Matter and its fatuous race hustlers like William Barber, the radicalized and demented university students, and not just them, but the near totality of the Democrat Party and most establishment Republicans, all fatally infected by a Revolutionary progressivist venom—they who first unleashed the violence in words AND in deeds.

shutterstock_667753855Ironically, it is Robert E. Lee who defiantly stands for what was and is admirable and right about America. And his lesson is being lost through all that is currently occurring. A man who despised slavery and freed his slaves (in 1862), a man descended from the Founders of our old Republic and who fully understood what the Founders intended, a man who loved the Union but loved liberty more, a man of a truly Christian and gentle disposition—Lee stands out in our history as one of our greatest figures, respected and deeply admired by such diverse leaders as Winston Churchill and Dwight D. Eisenhower. Yet, he also comprehended what the tyranny of an overreaching Federal government might mean. And he made a momentous decision to stand with his state AND for the American Constitution. In a real sense, he stood 155 years ago against the incipient progressivist Revolution, and despite overwhelming odds, he almost succeeded in leading the Confederate nation to victory against that revolution.

Rather than recur then to some grab-bag terminology the media calls the “Alt-right”—which has yet to be accurately defined and described, other than becoming a “devil” term for the minions of the Deep State—those of us, those deplorables, those who awakened from a silent slumber last November, those of us who wish only to reclaim the right of our people, our culture, our civilization to survive and continue unmolested—we should look to the model of that “chevalier sans peur,” that noble Virginian, Robert E. Lee, who tried to preserve the American confederation, but also understood that there are times when one must, regretfully and painfully, take bolder steps to save that which is admirable and laudable in our history and our culture.

This, then, should be the watchword of our faith. We have been aggrieved and assaulted; we must respond according to the appropriate levels, not more, not less. We must be wiser and more intelligent than our enemies in the Deep State, for they possess most of the major weapons. Yet, with determination and the necessary prudence, and the wisdom and lessons of our ancestors, and above all, with Faith, we can succeed.

We defend our historic culture and our faith; we do so morally and ethically; but we do not stand down, nor do we shy away from the conflict.

Dr. Boyd D. Cathey was a Thomas Jefferson Fellow at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, earning an Honors MA degree in history under the direction of the late Merrill Peterson.

 
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  1. CCZ says:

    The left has the green light to go full Cultural Revolution.

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    Perfectly stated.
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  2. joe webb says:

    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years…Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex….these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth…like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire…using words like “Treason” today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump…trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they…we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders….annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle’s I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks’ home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship… even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental….like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections….which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea…committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler…like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph….he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing…of course don’t forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

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    A couple of thoughts Joe;

    - there are no "Nazis". No one on the far right, except for being ironic, has any desire to bring the National Socialist Workers party of Germany back to life. That belonged to a specific time and place that has no relevance to the here and now. This is a childish, and frankly boring, slur invented by Jews.

    -maybe wait until you're sober the next day to post?
    , @Michael McCarthy
    Joe, tell us about your ideas as to how we can best unite our folk. If you know Richard Spencer, would you being willing to publicly debate with him or help him with his alleged personality and behavioral challenges?
    , @Millenial_Commentator
    Dating an American woman for the younger generation is basically like dating a man with different equipment. The weird sexuality is a symptom of the underlying societal sickness.

    Western civilization has been in decline since women's suffrage. The entire country has been taken over by female bee-watchers. It's no wonder the drones are rising up.
    , @Harbinger

    "As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis."
     
    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn't Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn't Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist 'internationalism', which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I'm a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions - mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently - voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those 'white' nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing - had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O'Brian in Orwell's '1984'), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what's happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.
    , @Zumbuddi
    Yo noe. Are Germans allowed to have nationalist senti.e ts? How are Germans allowed to express German pride? The current germ flag was imposed on Germans by the same for e that told southerners they had no state sovereignty and must edge allegiance to the northern / union flag, or die.

    If German National So Calista are not e titled to free speech in usa, then how is that different from the alleged crib
    Rd of Nazism?
    , @Santoculto
    Average Joey in your best ;))
    , @jacques sheete

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.
     
    While JW sounds like a fine fellow, the ignorance he expresses is one reason I've lost all hope in anything reasonable taking place.

    Tons of good people still believe idiot propaganda that's almost a century old.

    FYI, Joe, it is crucial to understand that Hitler was up against some real swine in the form of bankers, corporatists and politicians who supported the Bolshies and the Comintern. Without understanding that basic truth, no one will have a clue, and without a clue the truth cannot prevail. Without the truth, the true believers will be duped repeatedly then kicked into the dust and left to rot.

    Why this isn't obvious by now to everyone is beyond me, and I've frankly given up caring much beyond making comments like this. All I can do at this point is make sure my popcorn supply is intact cuz this is going to get interesting even though I'm confident of the ending. (The idiot classes and eternal enemies will prevail as always.)

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Anyone who bashes Hitler this late in the game is utterly beyond redemption. Sorry 'bout data!
    , @CalDre
    I don't get why you throw Duke into the mix. Maybe I've missed some of his speeches but I've watched quite a bit of him, mainly because he was the most demonized, and found him to less offensive than NutAndYahoo, who gets a standing ovation in Congress. Well, of course, the difference is that NutAndYahoo is a Jew supremacist, Duke is a separatist. Which is really what White Nationalism is at the core - a society for Whites.

    I'm not a supporter of White nationalism in the US since the US was founded as a multi-cultural society (at the time all of the European immigrants considered themselves a separate "race", on top of that you had the slaves, the natives, etc. But what is happening to Europe is absolutely astounding.

    The Communist Merkel has made it clear her goal is to destroy Germany. First they implement "feminist" policies meant to strictly control reproduction, then they bring in hordes of uneducated aliens to cure the "lack of children". WTF? How about not punish Germans for having children? How is it in the 1800s women could have 10 children without any of the modern conveniences and now they cannot even have 2, despite day care, kindergarten and loads of other state indoctrination centers, washing machines, irons, electricity, take-out food, etc., etc.? They want to "liberate" women from the horrors of childbirth and child rearing because working like a cog in some office means "career fulfillment?" Yet they are not imposing this aversion on childbirth on the millions of Africans and Arabs they are shipping in. No, they should reproduce "bigly".

    No, Duke isn't the nutter, Cantwell, on the other hand, is such an extreme idiot he has to be a plant; if not, the Bolsheviks sure lucked out, and they are going to give him all the coverage they can muster and paint him as the "symbol" of those who oppose Caucasian genocide.

    The "critical theory" school is a simple extension of economic Bolshevism. When the Elders of Zion realized they could not turn the worker against the capitalist, they decided to look for other grounds to stir up trouble. Hence every minority group is a "victim" of something or other. Of course there will always be minorities, even in Brave New World, so there is always a supply of people to convince they are oppressed and if they only follow these demonic chieftains they will attain "liberation". Well we saw with the victory of Bolshevism what "liberation" means - "freedom is slavery".
    , @Ilyana Rozumova
    Here is the basic mistake that did cost humanity dearly. Hitler overplayed his hand, and now Globalists are overplaying their hand. Nothing new!!!!
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  3. wayfarer says:

    “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell

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    Whitey is sleeping, and one day he'll wake up to find himself a minority in his own country.
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  4. Rod1963 says:

    It will be buried in a month but it will continued to be a club the Left will use against us for the next 3 years.

    But it does show our side is vulnerable to outside manipulation, in this case in the form of Jason Kessler, PR man and Democratic party hack who until 9 months ago was red pilled. This guys moves from a zero to a protest march leader in a few months. What is wrong with this picture?

    And what does he do? He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this. He’s showing them that White nationalists, conservatives ad Trump supporters are no different than Neo-Nazis.

    This is a PR coup for the Left.

    The alt_right needs to back off on marches and protests for the time being. We need to find and vet better leaders instead of infiltrators like Kessler.

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    "He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this."

    And who was running him? Whose idea was chanting BLOOD AND SOIL ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB8fNPC09EM&t=6s
    Lee Stranahan: What's the Charlottesville and Ukraine DNC connection?
    , @FKA Max
    Jason Kessler is a hero!

    Jason Kessler‏ @TheMadDimension 4h4 hours ago

    Thoughts on conspiracy theory rumors about me started by SPLC & promoted by the alt-light
     
    - https://twitter.com/TheMadDimension/status/897305759318499328

    The Alt Light/Lite is heavily infiltrated by the Zionist-Vatican Alliance:

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/the-battles-of-berkeley-someone-is-going-to-get-killed-where-is-trump/#comment-1841454

    I think what we are witnessing in the case of Pizzagate is a collaboration of right-wing “moral entrepreneurs” (with whom I had not been that familiar with before, and who most likely and ironically were empowered and inspired by feminist, left-wing moral entrepreneurs’ trumped-up claims about child sexual abuse) and right-wing “conspiracy entrepreneurs ” ( e.g. Infowars.com et al., with whom I am personally very familiar with).
    [...]
    I am still sitting on the fence about Pizzagate, but one thing is crystal clear to me, and that is, that if “moral entrepreneurs” and “conspiracy entrepreneurs”, be they of the right-wing or left-wing persuasion, get involved in debates and investigations, these usually turn irrational, disingenuous, and hysterical fast.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/pizzagate/#comment-1685910

    Cernovich is a mercurial brand who moves from one audience to the next and is disliked for having no real principles and starting drama. It was Cernovich who instigated the drama with both Richard Spencer and Baked Alaska. The charge is true.
    [...]
    Ideologically speaking, Vox sounds like he is closer to me than to MILO, Cernovich or PJW!
    [...]
    It looks to me like the real divide here is over Vox’s loyalty to MILO and Cernovich.
     
    - http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/01/09/response-to-vox-day-part-2/
    , @FKA Max
    This is the Snopes article on the "Alt Light" attack on Jason Kessler:

    Alt-Right Turns Against ‘Unite the Right’ Organizer Jason Kessler, Labels Him ‘Soros/Deep State Plant’

    None of this reads to us like the history of a man who underwent a sudden, “feigned” conversion to an alt-right, “pro-white” political stance in the wake of the election of Trump (for whom Kessler voted, he told us, and whose presidency he still supports). The evidence shows, rather, that Kessler was already evincing well-developed “white identity” views by February 2016, and has consistently reviled the left and expressed solidarity with the alt-right ever since.

    It would appear that his former alt-right compatriots sensed a convenient scapegoat in Kessler — someone they could easily finger as a patsy of George Soros and the Clinton-Obama “deep state” in their rush to blame the Charlottesville debacle on a left-wing conspiracy. Given that he organized the event and set its agenda, Kessler indeed bears some responsibility for what happened there, but he does so not as some imagined “Soros/deep state plant,” but rather as a legitimate figurehead of the alt-right white nationalist movement.
     
    - http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/jason-kessler-soros-deep-state-plant/

    Then yesterday evening Jason Kessler's Twitter account was most likely hacked by by "Weev":

    A social media user claiming to be Daily Stormer staffer Andrew Auernheimer said he had hacked Kessler's account, but that has not been confirmed, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    On Saturday morning, Kessler claimed that his Twitter account had been hacked.

    'I was hacked last night. I apologize for the tweet sent out from my account last night,' he wrote.
     
    - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4804940/Jason-Kessler-tweets-insult-victim-Heather-Heyer.html
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  5. People talk of Alt Right, Antifa, BLM, ‘white nationalism’, ‘white supremacism’, ‘leftist hatred’, communists, Neo-Nazis, KKK, and etc.

    But why aren’t people talking about Jewish Power?

    What happened in Charlottesville is classic JQ issue.

    It is the convergence of so many threads that are intertwined with Jewish Power.

    First, we need to ask, what is the ruling power in America? It is Jewish Power, and even some Jews have admitted to this. Some Jews are critical of Jewish power while others wanna shut down all criticism or even the chance of noticing.

    What is the nature of this power? It is supremacist. What do I mean by this? Supremacism is domination over others. It isn’t just power contending with other powers but gaining master role over them. For example, every individual has his own portion of power. Some have more, some have less, but apart from work, each American defines his own personal self and personal interests. This is different from master-slave relationship where the slave must sacrifice his own personal interests and needs in service of his master. Master comes first.

    Why is Jewish Power supremacist? Because it demands that non-Jews, especially whites, suspend or nullify their own identity, interests, and agenda to serve the needs of Jewish Power.
    Every group has some power and agenda in the US. Greek-Americans are concerned about Cyprus. Armenian-Americans would like US government to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. Irish-Americans supported IRA in the past. Chinese-Americans are concerned about Chinese interests both here and back home. But none of these groups dare say that their identity and interest must be first and foremost for ALL Americans. So, Greek-Americans lobby for US to side with Greeks in Cyprus, but they don’t expect all of us non-Greeks to fixate so much on Greek needs and issues. Even the powerful Irish never expected that non-Irish Americans care about issues pertaining to Ireland. It was their thing. Same with Italian-Americans. So, each group had its interests and power, but never sought supremacist power over others.

    This is where Jews are different. For some reason, AIPAC-dominated Congress says ALL OF US MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL and WARS FOR ISRAEL OR JEWISH GLOBALISM(as in New Cold War with Russia endorsed almost unanimously by Congress as total whore dog to AIPAC). Why? If we are not Jewish, what is it to us? And if we are Arab-Americans, maybe we want the US policy to pay more heed to needs of Arabs/Palestinians.

    Now, Jews caring about Israel, Jewish history, or Jewish identity is NOT a problem. Every group should guard and work for its power and interests. In this, Jews would be no different from any other group. It’s like Mexican-Americans have their own issues. So do Filipino-Americans and their lobby. But Jewish power doesn’t end there. It goes into supremacist gear and says the US government, all politicians, the media, the courts, the academia, and etc should all use their faculties to compel ALL OF US to put Jewish power, identity, interests, and agenda over OUR OWN. Jews don’t have to put Irish interests or Greek interests above their own, but Irish-Americans, Greek-Americans, and the rest of us must ALL sing hosanna to Jews, Israel, Holocaust-as-religion, and even Homomania, the proxy of Jewish Globalism. Look how Evangelicals worship Israel above Jesus.

    We have to understand THIS FACT of America before we discuss all else that are related to Charlottesville.

    Now, not all Jewish-Americans are in supremacist mode, but Jewish Power certainly is in that mode due to AIPAC, ADL, Hollywood, Wall Street, War State, Las Vegas, law firms, and courts. Too many Jews in those institutions and industries are all-out Zionist-Globalists. Consider Sheldon ‘nuke Iran’ Adelson the lunatic who is allowed to play key role in GOP politics. (When a Jewish mogul calls for nuking of a nation that never attacked us and has no nukes, that is not ‘hate’ in the current zeitgeist. He is ‘respectable’. He can buy up so many politicians.)

    Why would Jewish Supremacism fear White Identity politics so much? Why does Jewish Supremacism demean white identity politics as ‘supremacist’ when, for the most part, Alt Right is NOT white supremacist. Most Alt Right whites want to be left alone and don’t want the West to be invaded. They don’t want to invade other nations(and if anything, they’ve opposed almost all wars and invasions by the US). And they don’t want to tell OTHER groups what to do. Alt Right is not about demanding non-whites to be slave-like and serve whites. Alt Right is saying whites have their own identity and should determine their own destiny based on white needs. Alt Right is anti-immigration for the common-sense fact that mass colonization by foreigners totally changes a nation. (That is the reason why Israel only allows Jewish immigration. Is that ‘supremacist’? The dominant group in any nation wanting to remain dominant is not supremacism. It’d be supremacist if that nation sought domination over other nations.) So, why is mere white identity-and-interests smeared as ‘supremacist’ by the real supremacists of Jewish power?

    It is because white identity is an obstacle to Jewish Supremacism. For supremacism to work, the ‘slave’ people have to subsume their own identity and interests into the bigger identity and interests of the ‘master’ people. This was how Nazi Germany saw its satellites. Nations like Romania and Hungary had to put German power and interests first and foremost before their own. German Supremacism in Europe would have been impossible if each nation insisted on sovereignty and doing its own thing. This is why Hitler hated Poland and then later Spain. Poland wouldn’t go along with the Grand Plan with Germany at the center. And Franco’s Spain later refused to join Germany in the mad war. (Today, EU-Glob is acting supremacist in demanding that Hungary and Poland put out… or else.)

    Jewish Supremacists hate ANY KIND OF WHITE IDENTITY because whites who gain racial autonomy and sovereignty will put white identity and interests above all else. These whites may be friendly to Jews or their interests may even coincide with those of Jews. But it may sometimes run counter to Jewish interests or even become hostile to Jewish interests or find Jewish interests hostile to them.
    Under such conditions, Jewish Supremacism won’t go very far since whites will not cooperate or may even go against Jewish interests to pursue white interests instead.

    The fact is Jewish Supremacism is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT white cooperation and servitude. Jews, as 2% of the population, cannot run everything. Jews may control the commanding heights, but they need whites as generals, officers, soldiers, police, lawyers, clerks, engineers, bureaucrats, teachers, intelligence operatives, and etc. And unless white identity is suppressed, whites will serve either white interest or broader gentile interests than Jewish supremacist interest. Consider if most whites were like Pat Buchanan. Jewish power would not go very far as most whites would put white identity before Jewish interests. Or consider if most whites are like Ron Paul, who isn’t into white identity but is into broader sense of liberty. Then, most whites would not feel compelled to favor Jewish interests over that of all Americans regardless of color. As a libertarian, Ron Paul sees no need to favor the biases of Jewish-Americans over Palestinian-Americans. He sees both interests as legit but neither should command the loyalty of Absolute American Power. That would be ethnogarchy, not ethno-democracy where various ethnic groups argue and negotiate for power. Jewish Supremacists want ALL OF AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL and NOTHING FOR PALESTINIANS. Look how Jewish supremacists are clamping down on BDS like on Alt Right. Palestinian interests challenge Zionist interests in Israel-Palestine. White Identity and Palestinian Interests are taken out to the field to be shot in the back of the head.

    This is why Jewish supremacists feel a need to clamp down on ANY show of white identity as ‘nazi’ or ‘white supremacist’. It is classic projection by Jewish supremacists.

    Now, if Jewish supremacists suppress white identity, why do they play up non-white identities, especially that of blacks? And why of homos? Because boosting certain minority identity can guilt-bait white identity. By playing up black slavery and ‘Jim Crow’ narrative, white identity can be made to feel shame and guilty and deferential and reverential to black victimhood. This suppresses racial pride and agency on the part of whites. Such moral servility is easier to exploit by Jewish Supremacists. This is why Jewish Hollywood made stuff like 12 YRS A SLAVE, HIDDEN FIGURES, BUTLER, SELMA, and is now making three Emitt Till movies. This is where BLM is useful.
    Now, if blacks were the huge majority of America(like in South Africa), Jews would be afraid of black pride, black identity, and black power. But because blacks are still a minority, their identity and interests are regarded as useful tools by Jewish supremacists.
    As for homo identity, the idea of elite minority privilege(and homos are elite minorities) complements Jewish elite minority power. Also, homomania and its related gender-ideology spreads pansiness among white males. Also, Queertianity as the controlled ‘new christianity’ of Jewish suprmacists finally supplants the Faith in Jesus that held white world with so much confidence and conviction in the past.

    Now, what about Antifa? Antifa is supposedly ‘communist’ even though its members are mostly grunge-punk anarcho-syndicalists or more like cynicalists. They are into drugs, degeneracy, and filth. But they want some meaning in life, and ‘bashing the fash’ gives them meaning. They are soul-damaged garbage who feel so worthless that they can only feel good and justified by hunting down ‘nazis’ and ‘KKK’, the cartoon faces of evil. It’s like playing Mighty Morphin Power Rangeres.

    Why would Jewish supremacist globalist-capitalists of Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and etc want Antifa commies on their side? Jewish elites are rich and successful. Antifa are bottomfeeding trash. Because Jewish elites don’t have muscle on the ground against groups like Alt Right. Jewish lawyers, Jewish financiers, Jewish producers, and their kids are not going to fight in the streets and beat up ‘nazis’ and Alt Right. They are too refined for that. Some may join IDF but that is a respectable military unit. To ‘punch a nazi’, Jewish supremacists must rely on goons. It’s like Big Businesses used to hire gangsters and goons to beat up workers. It’s like in MATEWAN.

    The rich bosses, their colleagues, and their posh kids are not going to dirty their hands by fighting the workers. So, they hire goons who are not very educated. And these goons are indoctrinated that they must fight the ‘commies’. Back then, big business hired gangsters or rightists to bash communists, unions, and workers.

    But the white right has its own ideas and isn’t very useful to Jewish supremacists. Jewish supremacists must rely on the ‘left’ and ‘commies’ to bash the fash of the white right. So, Jewish capitalists must work with ‘communists’. But then, Jewish capitalists aided Bolsheviks for the same reason in the Russian Revolution and then Civil War. Jewish capitalists didn’t care for communism but they wanted White Russian Power crushed for all time.

    Antifa is useful to Jewish supremacists for the same reason that ISIS-Alqaeda was useful to Zionists in Syria. Jewish supremacists will even recruit Neo-Nazis, as in Maidan in Ukraine, to get what they want. Jewish supremacists are hellbent on destroying Russia, and the ‘antifa’ they found in Ukraine was on the far right.

    So, if we place Jewish Supremacism at the center of discourse, what happened at Charlottesville makes more sense. And the media reaction makes more sense too. Why does the media exaggerate Alt Right extremism but overlook Antifa, the Janissary of Jewish Power? For the same reason Jewish Supremacists pretended Syrian war was between evil Assad backed by new hitler Putin while the Syrian opposition are a bunch of White Helmet freedom-fighters. After all, who owns and runs much of MSM?

    At the center of it is the Jewish Supremacist question of “Is it good for Jews?”

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    Nice rant, Priss.

    I think you might look into the current situation of what you call 'homomania' in western countries, sure, when overseas, I saw one or two 'pride' events, though not liking them, supposed to set the scenes up as some kind of sexual cosmonauts:this while HIV remained rampant (sure, rates fell for a little time, until it became a treatable but chronic condition).

    Reading from the USA states that there are now sub-groups, with set up codewords on some sites and special bulletin boards, they have a fetish for being infected. They are not the majority, but there.

    ... and you can easily find pics of blacks, latinos and others into the same general thing.

    As they say, I am straight, I know my biological sex, and only like the opposite sex in that way. Don't want to pretend to change it, though I went through a few months of stupidity, about five years ago 'go all the way'. Some wise people, on the 'net and IRL, said 'Don't do it', grateful to them.

    The transgender ideology shifts it into another dimension. So many of them look stupid or horrid (I pass when I want to, without any surgery or stupid hormones, hormone imbalance as a child, but I am not ever to claim to be the opposite sex).

    The transgender ideology is interesting, out of control. I read an article from a male homosexual in his seventies today, he said that, as a child, he wore his mother's clothes at times, but that did not make him grow up to be a 'transexual'.

    Likewise, female homosexuals and other women complain 'I was a tomboy, why is that now to necessitate radical hormone blockers and stupid surgery?'

    ... and the female homosexuals are also complaining that this removes butch dykes into faux men.

    Males complain of the coming absence of twinks, because they will all be faux women.

    I do not have a side in this, but all are real phenomena, sure a sickness, and, though not being a member of either group, can easily see the reasons of both F and M homosexuals re. indoctrination of even infant children into transgender traps.

    As should any parent oppose it.

    Only replying to one point from you, hope it is a little informative.

    Really liked Boyd's article, the opening photo is great.

    Really dislike the western 'left', pretty much since Debord's Commentaires, can't think of anything much since (except Escobar, Hudson, Petras, Whitney a few others) worth reading, and, except for Petras, came across all of them prior to Unz.

    Some of extreme nationalists here annoy, they tried to hold a sound parade or rally near my home today, (raining too much, so not going to see which), they tried to restart two or three times. Too much rain.

    So glad the modern western left is having almost no influence here.
    , @lavoisier
    But why are the cucked out whites fighting for Jewish supremacism under the guise of being anti-fascist?

    Are they so stupid they don't know their masters?
    , @white noise
    "Jewish capitalists didn’t care for communism but they wanted White Russian Power crushed for all time."

    Actually, communism is an invention of the Jews, and it's the template they're using to try and impose their 'new world order'... The Jews called the Soviet system a failed experiment, because it ended in economic disaster. The Jews say China and Cuba are the best of their 'templates', for what they have been, communist/socialist dictatorships.

    They want exactly such a system but imposed in the whole world. So yeah, The Jewish capitalists do care for communism. It's their horrendous baby.

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  6. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The media is so totally overwhelmingly biased against Trump, whites etc. Pure Jewish cultural Marxism at its worst.

    You destroy a people and a culture by destroying its history.

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  7. RobinG says:
    @Rod1963
    It will be buried in a month but it will continued to be a club the Left will use against us for the next 3 years.

    But it does show our side is vulnerable to outside manipulation, in this case in the form of Jason Kessler, PR man and Democratic party hack who until 9 months ago was red pilled. This guys moves from a zero to a protest march leader in a few months. What is wrong with this picture?

    And what does he do? He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this. He's showing them that White nationalists, conservatives ad Trump supporters are no different than Neo-Nazis.

    This is a PR coup for the Left.

    The alt_right needs to back off on marches and protests for the time being. We need to find and vet better leaders instead of infiltrators like Kessler.

    “He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this.”

    And who was running him? Whose idea was chanting BLOOD AND SOIL ?

    Lee Stranahan: What’s the Charlottesville and Ukraine DNC connection?

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    And who was running him?

    Dem Jews? Not again! Say it ain't so!
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  8. FKA Max says:
    @Rod1963
    It will be buried in a month but it will continued to be a club the Left will use against us for the next 3 years.

    But it does show our side is vulnerable to outside manipulation, in this case in the form of Jason Kessler, PR man and Democratic party hack who until 9 months ago was red pilled. This guys moves from a zero to a protest march leader in a few months. What is wrong with this picture?

    And what does he do? He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this. He's showing them that White nationalists, conservatives ad Trump supporters are no different than Neo-Nazis.

    This is a PR coup for the Left.

    The alt_right needs to back off on marches and protests for the time being. We need to find and vet better leaders instead of infiltrators like Kessler.

    Jason Kessler is a hero!

    Jason Kessler‏ @TheMadDimension 4h4 hours ago

    Thoughts on conspiracy theory rumors about me started by SPLC & promoted by the alt-light

    https://twitter.com/TheMadDimension/status/897305759318499328

    The Alt Light/Lite is heavily infiltrated by the Zionist-Vatican Alliance:

    The infiltration and invasion of the ‘Alt Lite’ (not the Alt Right) by the Zionist-Vatican alliance intensifies

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-battles-of-berkeley-someone-is-going-to-get-killed-where-is-trump/#comment-1841454

    I think what we are witnessing in the case of Pizzagate is a collaboration of right-wing “moral entrepreneurs” (with whom I had not been that familiar with before, and who most likely and ironically were empowered and inspired by feminist, left-wing moral entrepreneurs’ trumped-up claims about child sexual abuse) and right-wing “conspiracy entrepreneurs ” ( e.g. Infowars.com et al., with whom I am personally very familiar with).
    [...]
    I am still sitting on the fence about Pizzagate, but one thing is crystal clear to me, and that is, that if “moral entrepreneurs” and “conspiracy entrepreneurs”, be they of the right-wing or left-wing persuasion, get involved in debates and investigations, these usually turn irrational, disingenuous, and hysterical fast.

    http://www.unz.com/article/pizzagate/#comment-1685910

    Cernovich is a mercurial brand who moves from one audience to the next and is disliked for having no real principles and starting drama. It was Cernovich who instigated the drama with both Richard Spencer and Baked Alaska. The charge is true.
    [...]
    Ideologically speaking, Vox sounds like he is closer to me than to MILO, Cernovich or PJW!
    [...]
    It looks to me like the real divide here is over Vox’s loyalty to MILO and Cernovich.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/01/09/response-to-vox-day-part-2/

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  9. Realist says:

    “The attacks by nearly the entirety of the media—including notably Fox—on the “Alt-right” demonstrators as “white racists” and “white supremacists,” then, is not only misguided scattershot, but it partakes in the dominant and ideologically leftist Deep State establishment narrative which posits as absolute truth that “hate,” “bigotry,” “racism,” ad nauseum, only come from what they identity as the “far” or “extreme” right, or more recently, “Alt-right.” And those terms are all-inclusive for anyone who dissents even in the slightest from the ongoing progressivist Revolution.”

    Excellent points. Those whites that think Fox News is their friend are deluded.

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  10. Charlottesville is huge turning point toward an anti-white apocalypse. The left is bent on extermination of what is left of our white European heritage. They own all of the major propaganda organs, and the Big Kahunas in both parties are in lock step with them. The worst is coming.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

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    Some people are getting too smug too soon.

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  12. Randal says:

    Fundamentally pretty simple issue, for an outside observer. People gathered for a lawful political demonstration. Political opponents came in an organised and violent attempt to shout them down and intimidate them, and the police deliberately failed to protect them from harassment. Violence resulted, and the ones primarily to blame for the violence are first those who came to cause trouble, not those who assembled to peaceably and lawfully demonstrate, and second the authorities who deliberately failed to protect the peace for political motives.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    It’s pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be – voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville. Can they do it without being co-opted as the “tea party” movement was? Time will tell.

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    You are suffering from the "If Only They Knew" fallacy.

    Anyway, the failure (willful) of the police to maintain order is being reported here and there by many neutral observers. It remains to be seen how deep the investigation will go. The police chief has admitted that they cleared the park of the Unite the Right people, which in effect pushed them into contact with the antifas.
    , @c matt
    It’s pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be – voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville.

    Great idea. Who is going to replace them? Any alt-right billionaires you know with nothing better to do?
    , @Clark Westwood

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.
     
    For a long time I was wondering why the Deep State simply hadn't had Trump assassinated. The members of the political establishment clearly view him as a huge threat to their power and/or wealth. If the Deep State wanted Trump taken out, I assume that its intelligence wing could do so and also manage to cover up their involvement at least long enough for knowledge of it not to have any practical effect.

    But I'm beginning to realize that what the Deep State and the establishment as a whole really want is not to eliminate Trump. What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump's election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable "opposition" opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use "racist" and "anti-Semite" smears (plus their weaker siblings "sexist," "homophobe," and "Islamophobe") as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waving_the_bloody_shirt
    , @lavoisier
    Very thoughtful.

    But can it happen?

    McCain has shown himself over and over again to be a traitor to his nation and his people, and yet he was continually put back into office by the voters of Arizona.

    If a truly world class monster like McCain can continue to gain office, there is little or no hope for the electorate to solve this problem.

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  13. Brabantian says: • Website

    So we have Jason Kessler, organiser of the Charlottesville rally, now exposed as previously an assignment editor at CNN news … and up until very recently, an Obama supporter involved with Democratic politicians & the Occupy movement … suddenly ‘finding religion’ with white heritage, almost instantly becoming a ‘national leader’ of that movement, setting up the events in Charlottesville, with crowds being led to chant ‘Blood and Soil’ …

    And re the car crash by ‘James Fields’, talented stunt-driver-in-reverse-gear, here is the very bizarre live media interview clip with ‘Samantha Bloom, mother of James Fields’ in her wheelchair, where mom supposedly first learns from this media reporter, live on camera, that her son just drove a car into a crowd and killed someone … She has little emotion, and within seconds ‘Samantha Bloom’ is laughing & shifting the topic … it seems as if a bad actress has been hired … the ‘reporter’ sounds fake as well … video 1min10sec

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  14. The best defense is a good offense. This is timeless wisdom.

    The left knows they can get away this because too many on the right are boomer cucks like Rod1963 who think if we’re just nice enough, if we are the gentlemen, if we just show them that we will play by the rules, they will come around and be nice right back gosh darn it!

    There’s a place for “men” like this; it’s between the ads for pilgrimages to Israel and ads for Viagra in the pages of the National Review.

    As for the alt right/far right, time to fight fire with fire. The fat cunt who got run over was a useless SJW who deserved her fate and the best response to the tearing down of Confederate statues and memorials is to vandalize statues of MLK and “holocaust” memorials.

    No apologies.

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  15. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    A couple of thoughts Joe;

    - there are no “Nazis”. No one on the far right, except for being ironic, has any desire to bring the National Socialist Workers party of Germany back to life. That belonged to a specific time and place that has no relevance to the here and now. This is a childish, and frankly boring, slur invented by Jews.

    -maybe wait until you’re sober the next day to post?

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  16. THEY WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!

    with Khzir Khan’s people…

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  17. Boyd Cathy

    Your comments are fuddy daddy wishy washy. The left wants a permanent nonwhite majority. Anyone who resists this is a Nazi…

    I…… War for Blair Mountain…..am a racist and very proud of it. I am no more no less racist than the Democratic Party’s majority nonwhite voting bloc.

    Carol Swain will just policy wonk yap about policy wonk sewage all say.

    The Democratic Party is waging open race war against the Historic Native Born White American Majority Working Class…and you come across as just wanting to have a place at the dinner table….

    SUPPORT NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN RACIAL XENOPHOBIA!!!

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  18. TheJester says:

    Thank you for eulogizing General Robert E. Lee. I’ve read his biographies and have placed him in my pantheon as one of the great leaders in western history. And lest we forget, Robert E. Lee freed more slaves than Abraham Lincoln.

    Lee correctly foresaw where the unconstitutional expansion of Federal power would lead. Instead of a federation of sovereign states, the United States now consists of relatively powerless provinces under the thumb of a wealthy urban Deep State bent on a global, multicultural empire. What have we as a nation come to? Two megacities on the coasts separated by rural poverty euphemistically called the Great Flyover.

    Lincoln assumed dictatorial powers during the Civil War as the beginning of the end of the American experiment. Leveraging his example, subsequent Federal governments have continued to usurp more powers until the federation of states is a pale shadow of the original constitutional order.

    Statues of Lincoln should be the ones being torn down, not statues of Lee.

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    Another story on the American history: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/08/15/america-propaganda-vanquished-truth/

    "Remember, when Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army, he declined on the grounds that he could not bring war to his own country, by which he meant Virginia.
    Lee’s army was the Army of Northern Virginia.
    As President Lincoln said over and over, the war is not about slavery. It is about “preserving the union,” that is, the empire. ... Lincoln did not free the slaves. Moreover, had Lincoln not been assassinated, his plan was to send the blacks, whom he regarded as inferior to whites, back to Africa. This is not a “conspiracy theory.” It is the documented fact. It is totally impossible to refute this documented fact. ...

    The first slaves were white slaves, but they died like flies from malaria and yellow fevor. Next indigenious Americans (“Indians”) were used as slaves, but they would not work. Then it was discovered that some Africans had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever, and finally a work force was located. The slaves were purchased from the African tribes that annually conducted warfare between themselves, the booty of which was slaves. Socialist historians, such as Karl Polanyi ... wrote detailed and exacting histories of the African slave trade conducted by black Africans. Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, and as every honest historian knows, they were not fighting for slavery. They were fighting, because their country had been invaded. ...

    In Durham, North Carolina, the seat of Duke University, a gang of largely white males destroyed public property by pulling down a statue of a Confederate soldier. Perhaps they took their cue from the neo-Nazis installed in Ukraine by Obama and Hillary following the US-engineered coup that overthrew the elected democratic government. The first thing the new Obama-installed neo-Nazi regime did was to pull down all the Soviet war memorials of the liberation of Ukraine from Nazi Germany. The neo-Nazis who pulled down the war memorials were the descendants of the Ukrainians who fought for Nazi Germany. These neo-Nazis comprise the government of the “democracy” that Obama and Hillary brought to the Ukraine and is the government that the US government and its European vassals support."

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  19. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    Joe, tell us about your ideas as to how we can best unite our folk. If you know Richard Spencer, would you being willing to publicly debate with him or help him with his alleged personality and behavioral challenges?

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    is this my friend M. M. ? Spencer? debate? he would never do it, because he is too soft, in every way.
    Uniting our Folk....we cannot do it, but over time with enough insults and injuries, the Anglo-Saxon finally awakens, and woe to his Enemies. Long process, and we seem to be about half way to the tipping point.

    JW
    , @white noise
    "Joe, tell us about your ideas as to how we can best unite our folk."

    A suggestion I already made, but I'll be more detailed (even though I'm not Joe):

    1) Create the CHRISTIAN ANTIDEFAMATION SOCIETY

    2) Invite membership nationwide. Millions of people will join

    3) Counterattack the Jews as viciously as they attack. You won't suffer for lack of damning material, as their sins are many and hideous and terrible

    4) You will need good logistics, and work a lot in research and investigation. A good team who will gather damning evidence to confront and bug the Jews for their multiple crimes.

    5) The best Christian lawyers you can get, as that's where you can may the Jewish ship sink: In the courts of law. You want to sue them mercilessly. All the time. You also want to sue the corporate media, and similar minions

    6) After gaining national acceptance and fat membership, seek for international membership. Make the movement as big as possible

    7) Keep an eagle eye on possible infiltrators, as the Jews are experts at this

    8) Do not accept any persons of Jewish origin

    9) You will need allies who are politically powerful. Not easy, as most of the politicians already sold their souls to Israel. But if you seek, you will find

    10) Attack in court all the nonsense the Jews are trying to impose about transgenders, gays, etc. ~ Defend the family and heterosexual sex. Attack feminism for the Jewish ruse that it is

    11) Attack them whenever they say or do anything. That's what they do. So, fight fire with fire.

    You may wonder how to win if both sides present the same war tactics. Easy: We vastly outnumber them... When this simple fact sinks in, the American people will understand that the odds would be in their favor.

    And the capitalist Jews will be very, very afraid... Keep in mind: Historically, when they feel the pressure of a whole nation against them, they show their true colours as the vile cowards they are, they crumble and flee for their lives,...

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  20. I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a “teen”. The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime.

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    "holocaust ™" memorials do not belong in the United States of America.
    , @Harbinger

    Rhett Hardwick says:

    "I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a “teen”. The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime."
     

    As Anarchyst correctly states above: “holocaust ™” memorials do not belong in the United States of America.

    The word holocaust comes from the Greek meaning 'whole burnt offerings'. And therefore if there should be any holocaust memorials in this world, they should be in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    I do not want to get into the ins and the outs of the holocaust ™, but I will simply state that history is what history is due to the revision of it. There is only one part of history, that is not permitted to be revised in many countries in this world. Worse, those who do are imprisoned. It draws the obvious conclusion that if you do not allow people to revise a certain part of history and make it public knowledge, then there clearly is something within it that certain people wish to remain hidden. And those people, are most certainly powerful if they can control certain country's judicial systems to imprison historians.

    "But people have witnessed it. People have seen it. Peopl....." and people lie, either through fear or desire leading to the detriment of another/s and individual gain. People have lied throughout time. It is why there is a commandment against it, to warn against the damage of doing so: "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor".

    Debate is such that opposing viewpoints meet and with presented facts argue their case. When debate is stifled, in this case holocaust revisionism, it simply means that one of the debater's viewpoints would not stand up to scrutiny and hence will not therefore debate.
    "Debating the holocaust is insulting to memory of those who died because of it" is one of the main points given in defense of not debating the holocaust. They're dead and therefore their feelings don't matter. Incidentally, it is EXACTLY the same argument those who promote the official story of 9/11 give also.

    "The Word of God can take care of itself, and will do so if we preach it, and cease defending it. See you that lion. They have caged him for his preservation; shut him up behind iron bars to secure him from his foes! See how a band of armed men have gathered together to protect the lion. What a clatter they make with their swords and spears! These mighty men are intent upon defending a lion. O fools, and slow of heart! Open that door! Let the lord of the forest come forth free. Who will dare to encounter him? What does he want with your guardian care? Let the pure gospel go forth in all its lion-like majesty, and it will soon clear its own way and ease itself of its adversaries." - Charles Spurgeon

    , @Anon
    What I notice is that because it's glass, it's a whole new Kristallnacht every time it gets broken, which gives the Jews a reason to be outraged all over again. Apparently it's never occurred to anybody to make it out of brass so it can take a few knocks. I suspect that it was made out of glass deliberately to arrange 'convenient moments of perpetual outrage' for the Jews, and periodically someone on the left goes and pays some black kid to break it, whereupon the Jews are whipped up into a frenzy of donation-giving to leftist causes whenever leftists think their coffers are getting low.
    , @white noise
    "Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime."

    I guess you are a Jew? Build your monuments in Israel, not in American soil. Besides, many investigators say that the holocaust is an impossibility, therefore a lie.

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  21. Noah Way says:

    Sad and racist for Ron to justify the violence with the dimunition of white culture. The simple truth is that our government has successfully divided us against each other – to the point of blood in the streets – effectively preventing us from uniting against the real enemy: the government and the 1% the serve.

    Mission Accomplished!

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  22. The Alt Right must be no more…no less racist-NAZI than Governor Cockroach Terry McAuliffe’s precious Jewish People in Israel….

    I think this to be a very reasonable proposition….

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  23. Pretty hilarious that Democrat Jewess women carry signs that she will replace us. The women of the Left abort millions of their own every year, fail to even conceive millions more via birth control, homosexuality and general-purpose feminism. Given the reproductive behavior of liberal women, THEY are the ones being replaced, Blacks are killing themselves, aborting and the rest. And inconveniently, Hispanics aren’t 100% democrat. 70 million abortions and 45 years in since Roe and we’re seeing the fruits of their non-labor, heh.

    And so, how are they going to be replace US? In fact, THEY are being replaced in State Houses, Gubernatorial races, the House, the Senate, now Trump. And Trump’s support isn’t going to fall off. Liberal Whites are trapped in the demographics of NYC, Boston, DC, San Fran. Their numbers aren’t great enough anymore if Christian Whites simply show UP to vote.

    Hence, the madness imposed by the Deep State. They know all this. I believe with every riot, with every Dallas, with every Antifa eruption, every BLM cluster-F, they only bolster the will of Trump voters to stand with Trump. As for violence? They asked for it, they got it. They think Antifa could take their game a little further South and they got their asses kicked. Get deeper into the South and the good old boys will simply “stand their ground”, draw their legally-carried concealed weapons and defend themselves. Once the Left takes their game out of liberal cities and off campus, they find a different game.

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  24. anarchyst says:
    @Rhett Hardwick
    I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a "teen". The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime.

    “holocaust ™” memorials do not belong in the United States of America.

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  25. iffen says:
    @RobinG
    "He brings all white trash under guise of uniting the right. Neo-Nazis and KKK in full regalia. He knows full well the MSM will go orgasmic over this."

    And who was running him? Whose idea was chanting BLOOD AND SOIL ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB8fNPC09EM&t=6s
    Lee Stranahan: What's the Charlottesville and Ukraine DNC connection?

    And who was running him?

    Dem Jews? Not again! Say it ain’t so!

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  26. iffen says:
    @Randal
    Fundamentally pretty simple issue, for an outside observer. People gathered for a lawful political demonstration. Political opponents came in an organised and violent attempt to shout them down and intimidate them, and the police deliberately failed to protect them from harassment. Violence resulted, and the ones primarily to blame for the violence are first those who came to cause trouble, not those who assembled to peaceably and lawfully demonstrate, and second the authorities who deliberately failed to protect the peace for political motives.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    It's pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be - voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville. Can they do it without being co-opted as the "tea party" movement was? Time will tell.

    You are suffering from the “If Only They Knew” fallacy.

    Anyway, the failure (willful) of the police to maintain order is being reported here and there by many neutral observers. It remains to be seen how deep the investigation will go. The police chief has admitted that they cleared the park of the Unite the Right people, which in effect pushed them into contact with the antifas.

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    You are suffering from the “If Only They Knew” fallacy.
     
    Not really, though I do get what you are driving at with the allusion. But it doesn't really make sense to equate calling for a manipulated electorate to wake up, with naivety about what a ruler knows or cares about.

    It remains to be seen how deep the investigation will go.
     
    My prediction is: nowhere useful. The combination of leftists and their antiracist and antinazi collaborators on the establishment and "respectable" right is too powerful for it to be allowed to go far, for the moment.
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  27. You indicate a preference for accurate definition and description. You specifically mention the Alt-right but you yourself use Deep State which I find more than usually fuzzy. It is almost as though you are saying that you don’t know how the decisions that you don’t like are made or by whom so you will just call thevpeople behind an opaque curtain “Deep State”.

    Who do you actually think they are? A unified uniform unchanging group? People loyal too or seeking to uphold some group, or doctrine or principles? Where if anyehere do the CIA and FBI fit in? Can the Deep Staters be relied on for consistency? For loyslty to anything?

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  28. I wouldn’t call the demonstrators “alt-right”. The alt-right seems to be a recently-coined name for a small group of well-financed middle class extremists who make a lot of noise on the internet but who seem to have no support in the electorate. For many years, the people who now call themselves the alt-right have spent almost as much time attacking the EU as they have discussing American affairs and have recently joined the pro-Putin camp. I doubt if any of the demonstrators in Charlottesville care one whit about the EU or Putin, one way or the other. Indeed, some might not even know what the EU was. Thus, the demonstrators could properly be described as “far right” but not “alt-right” and there’s no sign that any major alt-right figure was present in Charlottesville. In all probability, many of the groups present in Charlottesville have never heard of the alt-right and if they had, would see them as “Johnny-come-latelys” trying to hijack their movement. I find the description of Robert E. Lee rather amusing.

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    The extremist are the in the Democratic Party...extremist who want to race-replace THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY.....

    The Alt Right is the vanguard of Native Born White Amercan Identity Politics...which will be the norm for millions of Native Born White Americans very soon...And this is the reason why Terry McAuliffe used force and violence to shut down Richard Spencer this past Saturday...
    , @J. Rettig
    The Ignorance Light flashed a very bright red over your last sentence. No doubt your past school education has consisted entirely of vid-iot news, talk shows and movies. If you are under 40 your schooling enfeebled your mind as intended, so that statement strictly speaking is excusable.

    Have a nice day.
    , @NotBob
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html

    Old information, I know. But I think this is the same guy. Could be wrong. Why would anyone would drag anti - EU activity into this? Because they're paid for it.
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  29. Che Guava says:
    @Priss Factor
    People talk of Alt Right, Antifa, BLM, 'white nationalism', 'white supremacism', 'leftist hatred', communists, Neo-Nazis, KKK, and etc.

    But why aren't people talking about Jewish Power?

    What happened in Charlottesville is classic JQ issue.

    It is the convergence of so many threads that are intertwined with Jewish Power.

    First, we need to ask, what is the ruling power in America? It is Jewish Power, and even some Jews have admitted to this. Some Jews are critical of Jewish power while others wanna shut down all criticism or even the chance of noticing.

    What is the nature of this power? It is supremacist. What do I mean by this? Supremacism is domination over others. It isn't just power contending with other powers but gaining master role over them. For example, every individual has his own portion of power. Some have more, some have less, but apart from work, each American defines his own personal self and personal interests. This is different from master-slave relationship where the slave must sacrifice his own personal interests and needs in service of his master. Master comes first.

    Why is Jewish Power supremacist? Because it demands that non-Jews, especially whites, suspend or nullify their own identity, interests, and agenda to serve the needs of Jewish Power.
    Every group has some power and agenda in the US. Greek-Americans are concerned about Cyprus. Armenian-Americans would like US government to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. Irish-Americans supported IRA in the past. Chinese-Americans are concerned about Chinese interests both here and back home. But none of these groups dare say that their identity and interest must be first and foremost for ALL Americans. So, Greek-Americans lobby for US to side with Greeks in Cyprus, but they don't expect all of us non-Greeks to fixate so much on Greek needs and issues. Even the powerful Irish never expected that non-Irish Americans care about issues pertaining to Ireland. It was their thing. Same with Italian-Americans. So, each group had its interests and power, but never sought supremacist power over others.

    This is where Jews are different. For some reason, AIPAC-dominated Congress says ALL OF US MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL and WARS FOR ISRAEL OR JEWISH GLOBALISM(as in New Cold War with Russia endorsed almost unanimously by Congress as total whore dog to AIPAC). Why? If we are not Jewish, what is it to us? And if we are Arab-Americans, maybe we want the US policy to pay more heed to needs of Arabs/Palestinians.

    Now, Jews caring about Israel, Jewish history, or Jewish identity is NOT a problem. Every group should guard and work for its power and interests. In this, Jews would be no different from any other group. It's like Mexican-Americans have their own issues. So do Filipino-Americans and their lobby. But Jewish power doesn't end there. It goes into supremacist gear and says the US government, all politicians, the media, the courts, the academia, and etc should all use their faculties to compel ALL OF US to put Jewish power, identity, interests, and agenda over OUR OWN. Jews don't have to put Irish interests or Greek interests above their own, but Irish-Americans, Greek-Americans, and the rest of us must ALL sing hosanna to Jews, Israel, Holocaust-as-religion, and even Homomania, the proxy of Jewish Globalism. Look how Evangelicals worship Israel above Jesus.

    We have to understand THIS FACT of America before we discuss all else that are related to Charlottesville.

    Now, not all Jewish-Americans are in supremacist mode, but Jewish Power certainly is in that mode due to AIPAC, ADL, Hollywood, Wall Street, War State, Las Vegas, law firms, and courts. Too many Jews in those institutions and industries are all-out Zionist-Globalists. Consider Sheldon 'nuke Iran' Adelson the lunatic who is allowed to play key role in GOP politics. (When a Jewish mogul calls for nuking of a nation that never attacked us and has no nukes, that is not 'hate' in the current zeitgeist. He is 'respectable'. He can buy up so many politicians.)

    Why would Jewish Supremacism fear White Identity politics so much? Why does Jewish Supremacism demean white identity politics as 'supremacist' when, for the most part, Alt Right is NOT white supremacist. Most Alt Right whites want to be left alone and don't want the West to be invaded. They don't want to invade other nations(and if anything, they've opposed almost all wars and invasions by the US). And they don't want to tell OTHER groups what to do. Alt Right is not about demanding non-whites to be slave-like and serve whites. Alt Right is saying whites have their own identity and should determine their own destiny based on white needs. Alt Right is anti-immigration for the common-sense fact that mass colonization by foreigners totally changes a nation. (That is the reason why Israel only allows Jewish immigration. Is that 'supremacist'? The dominant group in any nation wanting to remain dominant is not supremacism. It'd be supremacist if that nation sought domination over other nations.) So, why is mere white identity-and-interests smeared as 'supremacist' by the real supremacists of Jewish power?

    It is because white identity is an obstacle to Jewish Supremacism. For supremacism to work, the 'slave' people have to subsume their own identity and interests into the bigger identity and interests of the 'master' people. This was how Nazi Germany saw its satellites. Nations like Romania and Hungary had to put German power and interests first and foremost before their own. German Supremacism in Europe would have been impossible if each nation insisted on sovereignty and doing its own thing. This is why Hitler hated Poland and then later Spain. Poland wouldn't go along with the Grand Plan with Germany at the center. And Franco's Spain later refused to join Germany in the mad war. (Today, EU-Glob is acting supremacist in demanding that Hungary and Poland put out... or else.)

    Jewish Supremacists hate ANY KIND OF WHITE IDENTITY because whites who gain racial autonomy and sovereignty will put white identity and interests above all else. These whites may be friendly to Jews or their interests may even coincide with those of Jews. But it may sometimes run counter to Jewish interests or even become hostile to Jewish interests or find Jewish interests hostile to them.
    Under such conditions, Jewish Supremacism won't go very far since whites will not cooperate or may even go against Jewish interests to pursue white interests instead.

    The fact is Jewish Supremacism is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT white cooperation and servitude. Jews, as 2% of the population, cannot run everything. Jews may control the commanding heights, but they need whites as generals, officers, soldiers, police, lawyers, clerks, engineers, bureaucrats, teachers, intelligence operatives, and etc. And unless white identity is suppressed, whites will serve either white interest or broader gentile interests than Jewish supremacist interest. Consider if most whites were like Pat Buchanan. Jewish power would not go very far as most whites would put white identity before Jewish interests. Or consider if most whites are like Ron Paul, who isn't into white identity but is into broader sense of liberty. Then, most whites would not feel compelled to favor Jewish interests over that of all Americans regardless of color. As a libertarian, Ron Paul sees no need to favor the biases of Jewish-Americans over Palestinian-Americans. He sees both interests as legit but neither should command the loyalty of Absolute American Power. That would be ethnogarchy, not ethno-democracy where various ethnic groups argue and negotiate for power. Jewish Supremacists want ALL OF AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL and NOTHING FOR PALESTINIANS. Look how Jewish supremacists are clamping down on BDS like on Alt Right. Palestinian interests challenge Zionist interests in Israel-Palestine. White Identity and Palestinian Interests are taken out to the field to be shot in the back of the head.

    This is why Jewish supremacists feel a need to clamp down on ANY show of white identity as 'nazi' or 'white supremacist'. It is classic projection by Jewish supremacists.

    Now, if Jewish supremacists suppress white identity, why do they play up non-white identities, especially that of blacks? And why of homos? Because boosting certain minority identity can guilt-bait white identity. By playing up black slavery and 'Jim Crow' narrative, white identity can be made to feel shame and guilty and deferential and reverential to black victimhood. This suppresses racial pride and agency on the part of whites. Such moral servility is easier to exploit by Jewish Supremacists. This is why Jewish Hollywood made stuff like 12 YRS A SLAVE, HIDDEN FIGURES, BUTLER, SELMA, and is now making three Emitt Till movies. This is where BLM is useful.
    Now, if blacks were the huge majority of America(like in South Africa), Jews would be afraid of black pride, black identity, and black power. But because blacks are still a minority, their identity and interests are regarded as useful tools by Jewish supremacists.
    As for homo identity, the idea of elite minority privilege(and homos are elite minorities) complements Jewish elite minority power. Also, homomania and its related gender-ideology spreads pansiness among white males. Also, Queertianity as the controlled 'new christianity' of Jewish suprmacists finally supplants the Faith in Jesus that held white world with so much confidence and conviction in the past.

    Now, what about Antifa? Antifa is supposedly 'communist' even though its members are mostly grunge-punk anarcho-syndicalists or more like cynicalists. They are into drugs, degeneracy, and filth. But they want some meaning in life, and 'bashing the fash' gives them meaning. They are soul-damaged garbage who feel so worthless that they can only feel good and justified by hunting down 'nazis' and 'KKK', the cartoon faces of evil. It's like playing Mighty Morphin Power Rangeres.

    Why would Jewish supremacist globalist-capitalists of Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and etc want Antifa commies on their side? Jewish elites are rich and successful. Antifa are bottomfeeding trash. Because Jewish elites don't have muscle on the ground against groups like Alt Right. Jewish lawyers, Jewish financiers, Jewish producers, and their kids are not going to fight in the streets and beat up 'nazis' and Alt Right. They are too refined for that. Some may join IDF but that is a respectable military unit. To 'punch a nazi', Jewish supremacists must rely on goons. It's like Big Businesses used to hire gangsters and goons to beat up workers. It's like in MATEWAN.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViswBS1Q-_E

    https://youtu.be/TcNXuETH1QQ?t=1m56s

    The rich bosses, their colleagues, and their posh kids are not going to dirty their hands by fighting the workers. So, they hire goons who are not very educated. And these goons are indoctrinated that they must fight the 'commies'. Back then, big business hired gangsters or rightists to bash communists, unions, and workers.

    But the white right has its own ideas and isn't very useful to Jewish supremacists. Jewish supremacists must rely on the 'left' and 'commies' to bash the fash of the white right. So, Jewish capitalists must work with 'communists'. But then, Jewish capitalists aided Bolsheviks for the same reason in the Russian Revolution and then Civil War. Jewish capitalists didn't care for communism but they wanted White Russian Power crushed for all time.

    Antifa is useful to Jewish supremacists for the same reason that ISIS-Alqaeda was useful to Zionists in Syria. Jewish supremacists will even recruit Neo-Nazis, as in Maidan in Ukraine, to get what they want. Jewish supremacists are hellbent on destroying Russia, and the 'antifa' they found in Ukraine was on the far right.

    So, if we place Jewish Supremacism at the center of discourse, what happened at Charlottesville makes more sense. And the media reaction makes more sense too. Why does the media exaggerate Alt Right extremism but overlook Antifa, the Janissary of Jewish Power? For the same reason Jewish Supremacists pretended Syrian war was between evil Assad backed by new hitler Putin while the Syrian opposition are a bunch of White Helmet freedom-fighters. After all, who owns and runs much of MSM?

    At the center of it is the Jewish Supremacist question of "Is it good for Jews?"

    Nice rant, Priss.

    I think you might look into the current situation of what you call ‘homomania’ in western countries, sure, when overseas, I saw one or two ‘pride’ events, though not liking them, supposed to set the scenes up as some kind of sexual cosmonauts:this while HIV remained rampant (sure, rates fell for a little time, until it became a treatable but chronic condition).

    Reading from the USA states that there are now sub-groups, with set up codewords on some sites and special bulletin boards, they have a fetish for being infected. They are not the majority, but there.

    … and you can easily find pics of blacks, latinos and others into the same general thing.

    As they say, I am straight, I know my biological sex, and only like the opposite sex in that way. Don’t want to pretend to change it, though I went through a few months of stupidity, about five years ago ‘go all the way’. Some wise people, on the ‘net and IRL, said ‘Don’t do it’, grateful to them.

    The transgender ideology shifts it into another dimension. So many of them look stupid or horrid (I pass when I want to, without any surgery or stupid hormones, hormone imbalance as a child, but I am not ever to claim to be the opposite sex).

    The transgender ideology is interesting, out of control. I read an article from a male homosexual in his seventies today, he said that, as a child, he wore his mother’s clothes at times, but that did not make him grow up to be a ‘transexual’.

    Likewise, female homosexuals and other women complain ‘I was a tomboy, why is that now to necessitate radical hormone blockers and stupid surgery?’

    … and the female homosexuals are also complaining that this removes butch dykes into faux men.

    Males complain of the coming absence of twinks, because they will all be faux women.

    I do not have a side in this, but all are real phenomena, sure a sickness, and, though not being a member of either group, can easily see the reasons of both F and M homosexuals re. indoctrination of even infant children into transgender traps.

    As should any parent oppose it.

    Only replying to one point from you, hope it is a little informative.

    Really liked Boyd’s article, the opening photo is great.

    Really dislike the western ‘left’, pretty much since Debord’s Commentaires, can’t think of anything much since (except Escobar, Hudson, Petras, Whitney a few others) worth reading, and, except for Petras, came across all of them prior to Unz.

    Some of extreme nationalists here annoy, they tried to hold a sound parade or rally near my home today, (raining too much, so not going to see which), they tried to restart two or three times. Too much rain.

    So glad the modern western left is having almost no influence here.

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    “Cultural Vandalism of the USA!”

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  31. TheOldOne says:

    Joe Webb: You are correct this time (not always).

    We do not need two-digit IQ types in “Nazi” uniforms; Mr. Vox Day is welcome to them. Nor do we need queers like Richard Spencer or Greg Johnson, both of whom seem to mistake themselves for Hitler/Heidegger.

    Anyone who sill watches fake TV news really should be ashamed.

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  32. anarchyst says:

    …the so-called “nazis” and “kkk” types present at the Charlottesville demonstration were actually leftists costumed as such in order to provoke a response, to which they were wildly successful at. You see, this is a classic “Alinsky tactic” turning the opposition into the enemy, “by any means necessary”. One could easily notice the brand-new costumes and flags…Of course, the “mainstream media” fed into this, being to stupid (or sly) to tell the TRUTH about these “demonstrators”.
    Add to that, the cops, who sat on their hands, until they actively pushed the alt-right people into the leftist crowd. A denial of civil rights lawsuit by the alt-right people against the police and city administration could go a long way…

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    I have said this over and over and over, however I simply cannot get this point across or anyone to take it serious and into consideration, and that being : there is only one method which can be used to rectify this whole scenario and set it right and that being :

    Starting with DT himself we must begin relentless labeling them, the crazy leftists as : RACISTS.

    TURN IT AROUND

    Sort of like this : " The racist leftist have incited rioting in again another attempt to camoflage and hide their own racist worldview"

    DT should begin twittering messages referring to them, the leftist nut-cases, as hard-core racists, and this will catalyst the effect of them losing the last remnants of their deranged minds and they will then go off the deep end and they will totally incapacitate themselves and become docile as the brainless sheep which they are.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
    , @attilathehen
    You're part of the problem. I asked you in another comment for another article if you accepted black/Asian priests-popes (you stated you were RCC). You never answered me. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. Cuck poop Frannie is the one behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. If anyone protests, he says they are not "Christian."
    The RCC is a homosexual/Freemasonic/multi-culti grand lodge. I follow the news for the archdioceses of New York and Chicago. Homos have taken over. The Zioevangizers are the next problem. Russell Moore the Southern Baptist Convention president condemned the racism of the marchers. This cuck approved a motion to criticize the alt- right a couple of months ago. The Jews are a problem, but RCC/Zioevangizer cucks are worse. Along with criticizing the Jews, the RCC/Zioevangizers need to be criticized. Then you will see a dramatic shift in the movement.

    People need to keep boycotting/attending anything that promotes "universal church" or "universal brotherhood" nonsense. Any group with homos needs to expel the homos.

    Fortunately, many people are beginning to act and things are starting to happen. Hollywood movie revenues are collapsing. The RCC is closing many churches in the USA. It's the white Christian cucks that are the problem. They will not defend the West. RCC cucks like Robert Royal, Selwyn Duke, Charles Colombe, Robert P. George, Ross Douthat are fervently praying the rosary and hoping the Zioevangizers are right about the rapture. Douthat wrote an article for the New York Times stating Europe must accept a negro future. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/07/the-west-and-what-comes-after/


    Original sin is being born with a low IQ. Asians/blacks have the lowest IQs.

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    Charlottesville Virginia, USA.

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  34. Randal says:
    @iffen
    You are suffering from the "If Only They Knew" fallacy.

    Anyway, the failure (willful) of the police to maintain order is being reported here and there by many neutral observers. It remains to be seen how deep the investigation will go. The police chief has admitted that they cleared the park of the Unite the Right people, which in effect pushed them into contact with the antifas.

    You are suffering from the “If Only They Knew” fallacy.

    Not really, though I do get what you are driving at with the allusion. But it doesn’t really make sense to equate calling for a manipulated electorate to wake up, with naivety about what a ruler knows or cares about.

    It remains to be seen how deep the investigation will go.

    My prediction is: nowhere useful. The combination of leftists and their antiracist and antinazi collaborators on the establishment and “respectable” right is too powerful for it to be allowed to go far, for the moment.

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  35. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    Dating an American woman for the younger generation is basically like dating a man with different equipment. The weird sexuality is a symptom of the underlying societal sickness.

    Western civilization has been in decline since women’s suffrage. The entire country has been taken over by female bee-watchers. It’s no wonder the drones are rising up.

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    Sorry! You guys lose!

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  37. @Michael Kenny
    I wouldn’t call the demonstrators “alt-right”. The alt-right seems to be a recently-coined name for a small group of well-financed middle class extremists who make a lot of noise on the internet but who seem to have no support in the electorate. For many years, the people who now call themselves the alt-right have spent almost as much time attacking the EU as they have discussing American affairs and have recently joined the pro-Putin camp. I doubt if any of the demonstrators in Charlottesville care one whit about the EU or Putin, one way or the other. Indeed, some might not even know what the EU was. Thus, the demonstrators could properly be described as “far right” but not “alt-right” and there’s no sign that any major alt-right figure was present in Charlottesville. In all probability, many of the groups present in Charlottesville have never heard of the alt-right and if they had, would see them as “Johnny-come-latelys” trying to hijack their movement. I find the description of Robert E. Lee rather amusing.

    The extremist are the in the Democratic Party…extremist who want to race-replace THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY…..

    The Alt Right is the vanguard of Native Born White Amercan Identity Politics…which will be the norm for millions of Native Born White Americans very soon…And this is the reason why Terry McAuliffe used force and violence to shut down Richard Spencer this past Saturday…

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  38. Joe Hide says:

    There is obviously a manipulation of groups of people in our country. This is to create disunity against humanity’s primary enemies, the psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, and criminally insane. Those in this degenerate group are easily identifiable through MRI’ s, advanced polygraph testing, psychological evaluations, etc. Because they number in the millions, evaluating all of them is presently impractical, but very practical for revealing the thousands of them in positions of power. Of course, cell phone apps could be developed and improved to give everyone the opportunity to evaluate anyone they meet. The “Elephant in the room”, question is why isn’t this being done? The answer is fairly obvious.

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  39. White resistance is in desperate need of leadership. I can’t think of a finer example than General Lee.

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  40. What every Democrat knows to be true:

    If the Union Soldiers at Gettyburg….the night before the big battle…had a crystal ball that allowed them to see the Charlottesville 2017 pro-negro…..pro-Tranny riot……The would have never fired on their fellow Native Born White American Southern Brethren the next morning…became best of friends…..I leave it to your imagination to figure out who they would have pointed their muskets at the next morning….

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  41. This past weekend 80 thousand young White Democratic Party Voters went to San Francisco-Outside Lands Convert to see convicted homosexual pedophile Rock Star multimillionaire Pete Townshend pretend that he is a tough guy as the teenage girls of England are gang raped by the Mohammadan Paki gang rape army….

    Democratic Party Family Values on full-display….

    Alt Right Native Born White American Racist and proud of it!!

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  42. Harbinger says:
    @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    “As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.”

    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn’t Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn’t Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist ‘internationalism’, which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I’m a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions – mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently – voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those ‘white’ nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing – had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O’Brian in Orwell’s ’1984′), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what’s happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.

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    it is a matter of PR basically. If you are a Hitler type guy, you should keep your mouth shut for public relations, aka politics in the US or Europe.

    If you have a considered intellectual position against Hitler, based on anti- one man rule, opposition to narrowly conceived nationalism like Hitler's as opposed to a united front of all white countries against the oriental despotism of Everybody else really, the Africans excepted who lack even the ability to aggregate their numbers beyond a particular tribe as well as their fundamentally chaotic nature, and have a respect for the small D democratic character for the Western tradition, including the Catholic Church with perhaps additional respect for the principle of aristocracy which can inform/control rude democratic impulses, and if you are a racialist who can acknowledge that inferior races have a right to their own countries... all of this means that you have thought thru the complexities of a mature racialist position. Such things not dreamed of by Adolph.

    Etc. Joe Webb
    , @joe webb
    You are correct with regard to WW2, the US should have joined in defeating the USSR. But the New Deal liberal softies , and the Jewish Power...

    So here we are. How to turn it all around begins with grown-up people, not wackos like Spencer, Greg Johnson, etc. Pink Nazis...what a spectacular crash that will probably bring down Trump as well.

    Joe Webb
    , @Marshall Lentini

    I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual.
     
    Neither do antifa. Yet you both depend on it.
    , @Stonehands
    Communist equalitarian propagandists posit that the great cultural inequality in the contributions of the various races is to be accounted for by the fact that the more advanced enjoyed "an unusual collection of fortunate circumstances."

    That is to say, no race comes to the top because it is more gifted or more masterful, but because it has "better luck."

    It does not win it's way, but somehow is given a more "favorable environment." As far as race itself is concerned, one is as good as another.

    Those who hold such views are often referred to as the "Franz Boas school."

    Franz Boas was born in Germany in 1858 of radical socialist Jewish parents. His education included no study of anthropology; how he got his Ph.D. appears to be something of a mystery.

    Nevertheless, by 1899 he became Professor of Anthropology at Columbia University, where for nearly 40 years he trained a great many students in his doctrine of so- called social or "cultural" anthropology, (((i.e. cultural Marxism, political correctness a la Frankfurt School))) which breaks with physical anthropology (and all past wisdom on the subject) in its teaching that the long- observed racial differences in feature, capability and character are due primarily to environment rather than to heredity.

    Selected students of Boas, given an aura of authority with PhD degrees, were placed decades ago at the head of anthropogy departments in leading universities, and given the concerted backing of press, radio, and later, TV, which freely published their pronouncements and refused a hearing to those who wanted to answer them.

    Thus, with the students whom they in turn raised up to become heads of university departments they have constituted that "cohesive propaganda group" which has been responsible, more than anything else, for putting almost the entire academic and intellectual life of the United States, and now ever increasingly, the political, and economic, social and religious life of the country as well, on an equalitarian foundation, with what the great mass of people take to be solid scientific backing.

    The conviction that all men are equal was the driving force behind the French Revolution, and it has been the driving force behind every social revolution (or attempt at social revolution) since then.

    It is of critical importance that this be understood, for it is the very essence of the acid which Communism pours upon every society it sets itself to destroy.

    The doctrine of equality will literally dissolve any society to which it is rigorously applied, for all social structure and soundness depend upon the recognition that men are not equal, that direction and leadership, without which a society can neither come into existence nor long endure, must come and can come only, from the few possesed of superior brains and personality.
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  43. Lourde has just announced that she has given up her White PRIVELEDGE…. and she will now live in a unlocked apartment in downtown Detroit…..

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  44. Anne Coulter

    What are the costs of importing highly educated tax paying Hindu Legal Immigrants?

    Answer:an enthusiastic vote for the demographic replacement of THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY…town by town….county by county….state by state…..

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  45. Thank you, Boyd Cathey for a stirring and insightful examination of the political pressures that target individual liberty, white advocacy, and which seek to crush historic memory. This essay deserves to be widely circulated.

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  46. joe webb says:
    @Harbinger

    "As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis."
     
    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn't Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn't Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist 'internationalism', which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I'm a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions - mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently - voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those 'white' nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing - had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O'Brian in Orwell's '1984'), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what's happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.

    it is a matter of PR basically. If you are a Hitler type guy, you should keep your mouth shut for public relations, aka politics in the US or Europe.

    If you have a considered intellectual position against Hitler, based on anti- one man rule, opposition to narrowly conceived nationalism like Hitler’s as opposed to a united front of all white countries against the oriental despotism of Everybody else really, the Africans excepted who lack even the ability to aggregate their numbers beyond a particular tribe as well as their fundamentally chaotic nature, and have a respect for the small D democratic character for the Western tradition, including the Catholic Church with perhaps additional respect for the principle of aristocracy which can inform/control rude democratic impulses, and if you are a racialist who can acknowledge that inferior races have a right to their own countries… all of this means that you have thought thru the complexities of a mature racialist position. Such things not dreamed of by Adolph.

    Etc. Joe Webb

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  47. Beautifully written and inspiring. (Do I detect toward the end conscious echoes of leisurely 19th-century rhetoric?)

    he [Lee] also comprehended what the tyranny of an overreaching Federal government might mean. And he made a momentous decision to stand with his state AND for the American Constitution.

    You’re not allowed to say that Confederates were fighting to preserve the principles of the Constitution. The Constitution = Lincoln, while Confederates = treason. The history is settled!

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    Wonder if they'll try to ban GWTW because it doesn't represent all Southerners as slave-beatin' sadists. Ironically, neither Scarlett nor Rhett believed in the War, but I guess the SJWs don't have to read a book before they ban it.
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  48. joe webb says:
    @Harbinger

    "As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis."
     
    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn't Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn't Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist 'internationalism', which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I'm a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions - mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently - voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those 'white' nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing - had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O'Brian in Orwell's '1984'), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what's happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.

    You are correct with regard to WW2, the US should have joined in defeating the USSR. But the New Deal liberal softies , and the Jewish Power…

    So here we are. How to turn it all around begins with grown-up people, not wackos like Spencer, Greg Johnson, etc. Pink Nazis…what a spectacular crash that will probably bring down Trump as well.

    Joe Webb

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    "Joe Webb says:

    So here we are. How to turn it all around begins with grown-up people, not wackos like Spencer, Greg Johnson, etc. Pink Nazis…what a spectacular crash that will probably bring down Trump as well."
     

    And this is why the west is collapsing - divide and conquer. It's not that I support them or don't, but they are the only ones actively speaking up against the clear case of white genocide. I live here in the UK, not in the USA.

    What people always miss in my debate is the following:


    "Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song."
     
    People are too quick to forget the benevolence of the right. There is none within the left and the left is clearly in charge. They have infiltrated EVERY position within every academic, main stream media and political institution with which to completely control society.
    I am 46. I am the way I am, only because I am from an older parented family. My mother is 83 and were my father alive, he'd be 92 this year. I am essentially around 62, as I've always associated with people far older than I am, from the age of 18 onward.

    The younger generations, I'd say 40 and under, are predominantly left wing and I'm talking about the majority here. This is courtesy of, as stated, cultural Marxism running rampant within educational establishments and the msm. Colleges and universities today are nothing more than breeding and recruitment grounds for communists.
    Right wing ideology, that is pretty much traditionalism and what was essentially mankind's philosophy for thousands upon thousands of years is, as stated singing its swan song. The new world order, CANNOT, exist within an old world order society. This is why there is such a colossal attack on the right wing.

    Worse, what is the right wing today, is merely liberalism. The likes of Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Ben Shapiro, Milo Yiannopolous, Gavin McInnes, Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern.....the list goes on and on are ALL liberals, not in the American definition, but the British, classical definition. It is a battle between liberalism and socialism and socialism will not tolerate anything that isn't left-wing-think. And even liberals, like Peterson are being slandered as nazis, fascists and white supremacists, because they do not bow down to political correctness and the assault of free speech, in the case of the USA, the first amendment.

    You CANNOT beat this Joe. No matter how optimistic you are, wishes will NOT win wars and we are in one at the moment. You have to be realistic here. There is only one way to win what's happening within the west and that is a massive right wing assault upon the left. Starting with the instance removal of all teaching staff in schools and colleges, replacing them with right wing staff. Destroying the LGBT agenda. Smashing apart the transgender and gender pronoun argument. Instantly arresting all leaders within ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter and making it known that any members still promoting these organizations will be arrested and imprisoned. Smashing apart the Jewish minority groups like the ADL, the SPLC. Removing the power of the race baiters like George Soros, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et all. Immediately arresting all members of the CFR, Skull & Bones etc. Destroying the Federal Reserve. Arresting all those within the administrations of both parties at the time of 9/11. Arresting all freemasons within all establishments and outlawing it. .......the list goes on and on and on.

    And of course, NOT ONE of the above will ever happen.

    You can either do one of two things Joe - continue giving yourself stress, urinating against the waterfall or sit back, relax and get on with the rest of your life.

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  49. @anarchyst
    ...the so-called "nazis" and "kkk" types present at the Charlottesville demonstration were actually leftists costumed as such in order to provoke a response, to which they were wildly successful at. You see, this is a classic "Alinsky tactic" turning the opposition into the enemy, "by any means necessary". One could easily notice the brand-new costumes and flags...Of course, the "mainstream media" fed into this, being to stupid (or sly) to tell the TRUTH about these "demonstrators".
    Add to that, the cops, who sat on their hands, until they actively pushed the alt-right people into the leftist crowd. A denial of civil rights lawsuit by the alt-right people against the police and city administration could go a long way...

    I have said this over and over and over, however I simply cannot get this point across or anyone to take it serious and into consideration, and that being : there is only one method which can be used to rectify this whole scenario and set it right and that being :

    Starting with DT himself we must begin relentless labeling them, the crazy leftists as : RACISTS.

    TURN IT AROUND

    Sort of like this : ” The racist leftist have incited rioting in again another attempt to camoflage and hide their own racist worldview”

    DT should begin twittering messages referring to them, the leftist nut-cases, as hard-core racists, and this will catalyst the effect of them losing the last remnants of their deranged minds and they will then go off the deep end and they will totally incapacitate themselves and become docile as the brainless sheep which they are.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

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    Agree. Mirror mirror mirror. It's the only way forward. Never mind marching to unite the right, march to defeat Marxism - anti-ma demos for every leftist protest.
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  50. All in all, it is interesting that Alt Right is the ONLY GROUP that is willing to take a stand against the desecration of Pan-European culture and history(of which White America is a part) from the hammers of globalists and White Janissary turned against their own kind. It is also telling that the Alt Right is the only group with strong commitment to free speech and anti-imperialist wars. When Trump shot missiles into Syria, only the Alt Right condemned it unequivocally while globalists cheered. And under Obama, the progs were utterly silent about the destruction of Libya, CIA’s funding of Alqaeda in Syria, and Neocon Nuland’s recruitment of neo-nazis in Ukriane to topple the government.

    Con Inc conserves nothing. It has been silent with tail between its legs while the vandalism and desecration by globalism and diversyphilis has been going on for years.

    Con Inc are collaborators who are rewarded with carrots if they collude with their globalist masters who attack Pan-European Heritage with sticks.

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  51. Harbinger says:
    @Rhett Hardwick
    I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a "teen". The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime.

    Rhett Hardwick says:

    I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a “teen”. The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime.

    As Anarchyst correctly states above: “holocaust ™” memorials do not belong in the United States of America.

    The word holocaust comes from the Greek meaning ‘whole burnt offerings’. And therefore if there should be any holocaust memorials in this world, they should be in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    I do not want to get into the ins and the outs of the holocaust ™, but I will simply state that history is what history is due to the revision of it. There is only one part of history, that is not permitted to be revised in many countries in this world. Worse, those who do are imprisoned. It draws the obvious conclusion that if you do not allow people to revise a certain part of history and make it public knowledge, then there clearly is something within it that certain people wish to remain hidden. And those people, are most certainly powerful if they can control certain country’s judicial systems to imprison historians.

    “But people have witnessed it. People have seen it. Peopl…..” and people lie, either through fear or desire leading to the detriment of another/s and individual gain. People have lied throughout time. It is why there is a commandment against it, to warn against the damage of doing so: “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor”.

    Debate is such that opposing viewpoints meet and with presented facts argue their case. When debate is stifled, in this case holocaust revisionism, it simply means that one of the debater’s viewpoints would not stand up to scrutiny and hence will not therefore debate.
    “Debating the holocaust is insulting to memory of those who died because of it” is one of the main points given in defense of not debating the holocaust. They’re dead and therefore their feelings don’t matter. Incidentally, it is EXACTLY the same argument those who promote the official story of 9/11 give also.

    “The Word of God can take care of itself, and will do so if we preach it, and cease defending it. See you that lion. They have caged him for his preservation; shut him up behind iron bars to secure him from his foes! See how a band of armed men have gathered together to protect the lion. What a clatter they make with their swords and spears! These mighty men are intent upon defending a lion. O fools, and slow of heart! Open that door! Let the lord of the forest come forth free. Who will dare to encounter him? What does he want with your guardian care? Let the pure gospel go forth in all its lion-like majesty, and it will soon clear its own way and ease itself of its adversaries.” – Charles Spurgeon

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  52. c matt says:
    @Randal
    Fundamentally pretty simple issue, for an outside observer. People gathered for a lawful political demonstration. Political opponents came in an organised and violent attempt to shout them down and intimidate them, and the police deliberately failed to protect them from harassment. Violence resulted, and the ones primarily to blame for the violence are first those who came to cause trouble, not those who assembled to peaceably and lawfully demonstrate, and second the authorities who deliberately failed to protect the peace for political motives.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    It's pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be - voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville. Can they do it without being co-opted as the "tea party" movement was? Time will tell.

    It’s pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be – voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville.

    Great idea. Who is going to replace them? Any alt-right billionaires you know with nothing better to do?

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    Is US conservatism really devoid of any talent that is not in hock to the internationalist left and/or the interventionist lobbies?

    I suspect there are still a few more Pat Buchanans out there to be found if you look hard enough.
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  53. @Randal
    Fundamentally pretty simple issue, for an outside observer. People gathered for a lawful political demonstration. Political opponents came in an organised and violent attempt to shout them down and intimidate them, and the police deliberately failed to protect them from harassment. Violence resulted, and the ones primarily to blame for the violence are first those who came to cause trouble, not those who assembled to peaceably and lawfully demonstrate, and second the authorities who deliberately failed to protect the peace for political motives.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    It's pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be - voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville. Can they do it without being co-opted as the "tea party" movement was? Time will tell.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    For a long time I was wondering why the Deep State simply hadn’t had Trump assassinated. The members of the political establishment clearly view him as a huge threat to their power and/or wealth. If the Deep State wanted Trump taken out, I assume that its intelligence wing could do so and also manage to cover up their involvement at least long enough for knowledge of it not to have any practical effect.

    But I’m beginning to realize that what the Deep State and the establishment as a whole really want is not to eliminate Trump. What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump’s election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable “opposition” opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use “racist” and “anti-Semite” smears (plus their weaker siblings “sexist,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe”) as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waving_the_bloody_shirt

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    What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump’s election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable “opposition” opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use “racist” and “anti-Semite” smears (plus their weaker siblings “sexist,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe”) as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.
     
    Absolutely.

    There's a famous quote attributed to Erdogan that says words to the effect of: "democracy is like a tram - you ride it until you reach your destination and then you get off".

    Well for the left, free speech is like that. They loudly declared their allegiance to it until they were sure that they themselves were safely the ones who would decide what speech would be suppressed, and then they got off.
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  54. Harbinger says:
    @joe webb
    You are correct with regard to WW2, the US should have joined in defeating the USSR. But the New Deal liberal softies , and the Jewish Power...

    So here we are. How to turn it all around begins with grown-up people, not wackos like Spencer, Greg Johnson, etc. Pink Nazis...what a spectacular crash that will probably bring down Trump as well.

    Joe Webb

    “Joe Webb says:

    So here we are. How to turn it all around begins with grown-up people, not wackos like Spencer, Greg Johnson, etc. Pink Nazis…what a spectacular crash that will probably bring down Trump as well.”

    And this is why the west is collapsing – divide and conquer. It’s not that I support them or don’t, but they are the only ones actively speaking up against the clear case of white genocide. I live here in the UK, not in the USA.

    What people always miss in my debate is the following:

    “Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.”

    People are too quick to forget the benevolence of the right. There is none within the left and the left is clearly in charge. They have infiltrated EVERY position within every academic, main stream media and political institution with which to completely control society.
    I am 46. I am the way I am, only because I am from an older parented family. My mother is 83 and were my father alive, he’d be 92 this year. I am essentially around 62, as I’ve always associated with people far older than I am, from the age of 18 onward.

    The younger generations, I’d say 40 and under, are predominantly left wing and I’m talking about the majority here. This is courtesy of, as stated, cultural Marxism running rampant within educational establishments and the msm. Colleges and universities today are nothing more than breeding and recruitment grounds for communists.
    Right wing ideology, that is pretty much traditionalism and what was essentially mankind’s philosophy for thousands upon thousands of years is, as stated singing its swan song. The new world order, CANNOT, exist within an old world order society. This is why there is such a colossal attack on the right wing.

    Worse, what is the right wing today, is merely liberalism. The likes of Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Ben Shapiro, Milo Yiannopolous, Gavin McInnes, Stephen Crowder, Lauren Southern…..the list goes on and on are ALL liberals, not in the American definition, but the British, classical definition. It is a battle between liberalism and socialism and socialism will not tolerate anything that isn’t left-wing-think. And even liberals, like Peterson are being slandered as nazis, fascists and white supremacists, because they do not bow down to political correctness and the assault of free speech, in the case of the USA, the first amendment.

    You CANNOT beat this Joe. No matter how optimistic you are, wishes will NOT win wars and we are in one at the moment. You have to be realistic here. There is only one way to win what’s happening within the west and that is a massive right wing assault upon the left. Starting with the instance removal of all teaching staff in schools and colleges, replacing them with right wing staff. Destroying the LGBT agenda. Smashing apart the transgender and gender pronoun argument. Instantly arresting all leaders within ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter and making it known that any members still promoting these organizations will be arrested and imprisoned. Smashing apart the Jewish minority groups like the ADL, the SPLC. Removing the power of the race baiters like George Soros, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et all. Immediately arresting all members of the CFR, Skull & Bones etc. Destroying the Federal Reserve. Arresting all those within the administrations of both parties at the time of 9/11. Arresting all freemasons within all establishments and outlawing it. …….the list goes on and on and on.

    And of course, NOT ONE of the above will ever happen.

    You can either do one of two things Joe – continue giving yourself stress, urinating against the waterfall or sit back, relax and get on with the rest of your life.

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  55. Harbinger says:

    [Apparently, your comments were somehow caught in the automatic spam-filter, and have now been retrieved.]

    @ Moderator,

    Please delete my comments (above and this one). It is clear you are not an advocate of freedom of speech and are deleting my replies to posters, that are clearly on topic. You deleted my reply Rhett Hardwick on holocaust memorials, even though I can’t understand why you allowed his post, as it’s clearly off topic and my reply to Joe Webb on the current state of affairs.

    There is no point whatsoever in posting on a forum, promoting your argument of freedom, when it is clear that you are not freedom advocates in the slightest.

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  56. Harbinger says:

    This is really odd? My two posts, before this and the one above were deleted within 30 seconds by the moderator and yet the one above is still up, 5 minutes on? Does this forum have a catchword scan that instantly sends posts into spam, where the last two went?

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  57. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The car was attacked before hitting the crowd.

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    What I see is this:

    In the top pic:
    1. Guy white shirt, hat, black bag: looks like he is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    2. Short woman, yellow tank top, black shorts, blue baseball cap: looks like she is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    3. Tall guy behind blue baseball cap woman, looking straight at the Dodge: looks like he is also jumping out of the way of the car.
    4. Tall woman to the left with baseball cap and backpack: her mouth is open, like she's socked by what she sees.....
    5. All the way to the right, guy with black shirt : also has mouth open in surprise....

    As to the breaks: looks like Dodge was semi-slowly driving towards the crowds, tapping the breaks, not trying to run anybody down, but trying to leave or something.
    Then looks like he got attacked, panicked, and jammed the gas to try to get out.

    What was he doing driving a car down a street jammed with people in the first place?
    Pretty stupid and reckless.
    And a young woman got killed,

    , @Lawrence Fitton
    well, the spin doctors are out here at unz.com
    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery? other than that the north & south were pretty much the same. yes i know the north held slaves too. but they abolished slavery. and lincoln never tried to free slaves, just that new states must be free states. he did emancipate slaves during the conflict, yes.
    , @nickels
    The 'batmark' is there before the guy hitting ( unless this is from previous).

    1) dude pulls in, tries to wade thru
    2) hostile line of antifa with nasty attitudes stand in front of him like 'You aint getting thru'.
    3) Carrotop starts beating his car (remind you, this is a bery nice car, his pride and joy).
    4) his temper snaps and he demonstrates that he CAN get thru.
    5) he hits the other car. 10 antifa pile on bashing his windows. He has no choice for his own safety to back up (which he should have done at the first stage).

    Carrottop needs to get somekind of manslaughtet charge.
    , @schrub
    This picture will never see the light of day in MSM. You can bet on this!

    I personally think that this driver initially hit the car in front because he had been distracted by the people behind him beating on his car. Then, he must have thought he had two choices. He could have simply stayed put out of hope that the very angry crowd wouldn't attack him or he could get the hell out of there. He panicked and backed up out of fear that the crowd would attack him once he was hemmed in by it.

    Unfortunately, the crowd had already quickly re-grouped behind his car so his escape route was blocked. He probably didn't realize this when he put his car in reverse and push on the gas pedal.

    Backing up rapidly and safely is difficult for even an expert driver in a calm situation. In a crowded threatening situation like this its is almost impossible especially because this driver was probably already rattled because he had already seen (or actually experienced) what these Jewish Defense League organized and directed crowds were capable of.

    The aforementioned "selectivity" of the MSM reminds me of "white man" George Zimmerman. Pictures of the extremely bloody injuries that Zimmerman had received from "Obama's son and scholar " Trayvon Martin before Zimmerman shot Martin were never seen the media until months after the event took place. Many have still not seen them. This deliberate delay was the result of the MSM wanting to give the impression that the shooting of Martin was random and unprovoked and simply the result of white racism.

    Ironically, the dark skinned Zimmerman would have been called a "person of color" by the MSM if a white person had shot him instead.
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  58. Cyrano says:

    US is all about equality, right? No racism, welcome 3rd world. Is that really the case? According to US mythology, one of the most unequal countries in terms of wealth distribution is the most progressive country in the world in terms of racial equality.

    How can that be? Well, you see, one is designed to preserve the status quo of the other. Progressiveness in race relation is designed to keep the “conservatism” of economic equality. Multiculturalism is an old communist idea which was designed in US in the ’60 in order to prevent the possibility of a full blown communist revolution happening in the US.

    Where communism called for equality across the board, but primarily in the economic sphere, the good old capitalists decided to manipulate the idea of wide range equality and narrow it down into only racial equality and thus preserve the economic inequality.

    In the ’60 US got scared of communism not because of their military strength, but because of their possible appeal to the masses domestically with their main selling point – equality. The ’60 were the years of the Civil rights movement, the hippies, anti-war demonstrations and so the alchemists in the Greatest Democracy in the world decided to manipulate the original communist idea and came up with multiculturalism.

    The burden of equality that communism was calling for was supposed to fall on the rich – they were the one that were supposed to be on the receiving end of the “equality”. Equalizing sums of money were supposed to be taken out of their pockets and distributed to the poor.

    In the multicultural heaven, the burden of equality is falling on the poor – leaving the rich class untouched in any way. The poor underclass is suffering from increased competition from the 3rd world immigrants, who are stagnating their wages and standard of living . And it’s continuing to this day. If anyone in the wonderfully equal US dares to ask for more economic equality, the answer from the rich will be: How dare you ask for more money, you greedy b***ards. While we are trying to save as many of your 3rd world brothers from extreme poverty, you are asking us for more money?

    It’s brilliant, isn’t it? It makes the rich, ruling class in US look like saints, trying to save the 3rd world, without losing a cent in the process. While the standards of living for the domestically born lower classes continue to decline, US is the most humane country in the world.

    I think that the whole idea of the multiculturalism was misunderstood from the start. What the rich class was saying wasn’t that “We are all equal”. It was – “You are all equal” and we are better than all of you. The multiculturalism from the prospective of the rich looks like this: To them, it doesn’t matter if you are white, yellow, black, brown, or any color in between, they welcome the opportunity to exploit all of you equally. The poor people are all equal among themselves, but the rich ruling class is better than all of them.

    I really believe that multiculturalism was designed in order to save US from communist revolution. I also think that they jumped the gun. Had they known that communism was going to collapse within 3 decades (counting from the ‘60s for those who are not good at math), US would have never bothered to invent it.

    So there you go – enjoy your equality.

    By the way, it was easy to abandon communism – they just collapsed it. How are you going to extricate yourself from multiculturalism, when you all have been brainwashed to believe that it makes you better human beings.

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  59. Avery says:
    @Anonymous
    The car was attacked before hitting the crowd.

    https://kek.gg/i/5_phf6.jpg

    What I see is this:

    In the top pic:
    1. Guy white shirt, hat, black bag: looks like he is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    2. Short woman, yellow tank top, black shorts, blue baseball cap: looks like she is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    3. Tall guy behind blue baseball cap woman, looking straight at the Dodge: looks like he is also jumping out of the way of the car.
    4. Tall woman to the left with baseball cap and backpack: her mouth is open, like she’s socked by what she sees…..
    5. All the way to the right, guy with black shirt : also has mouth open in surprise….

    As to the breaks: looks like Dodge was semi-slowly driving towards the crowds, tapping the breaks, not trying to run anybody down, but trying to leave or something.
    Then looks like he got attacked, panicked, and jammed the gas to try to get out.

    What was he doing driving a car down a street jammed with people in the first place?
    Pretty stupid and reckless.
    And a young woman got killed,

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    You can see the video here: https://storify.com/Cedarwooded/evidence-driver-was-innocent
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  60. Randal says:
    @Clark Westwood

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.
     
    For a long time I was wondering why the Deep State simply hadn't had Trump assassinated. The members of the political establishment clearly view him as a huge threat to their power and/or wealth. If the Deep State wanted Trump taken out, I assume that its intelligence wing could do so and also manage to cover up their involvement at least long enough for knowledge of it not to have any practical effect.

    But I'm beginning to realize that what the Deep State and the establishment as a whole really want is not to eliminate Trump. What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump's election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable "opposition" opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use "racist" and "anti-Semite" smears (plus their weaker siblings "sexist," "homophobe," and "Islamophobe") as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waving_the_bloody_shirt

    What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump’s election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable “opposition” opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use “racist” and “anti-Semite” smears (plus their weaker siblings “sexist,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe”) as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.

    Absolutely.

    There’s a famous quote attributed to Erdogan that says words to the effect of: “democracy is like a tram – you ride it until you reach your destination and then you get off”.

    Well for the left, free speech is like that. They loudly declared their allegiance to it until they were sure that they themselves were safely the ones who would decide what speech would be suppressed, and then they got off.

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    and then they got off.

    Following rules is not the ultimate objective of political activity; winning is the objective.
    , @David
    I think this paragraph that I already copied in somewhere else neatly illustrates your comment.

    All societies have certain organizing principles. Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles. In America today one of those principles is that discrimination based on race is immoral; people who disagree with this have only one goal — creating a society in which it is not one of those principles. If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.
     
    http://theweek.com/articles/718454/censor-white-supremacy
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  61. Randal says:
    @c matt
    It’s pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be – voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville.

    Great idea. Who is going to replace them? Any alt-right billionaires you know with nothing better to do?

    Is US conservatism really devoid of any talent that is not in hock to the internationalist left and/or the interventionist lobbies?

    I suspect there are still a few more Pat Buchanans out there to be found if you look hard enough.

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  62. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    People talk of Alt Right, Antifa, BLM, 'white nationalism', 'white supremacism', 'leftist hatred', communists, Neo-Nazis, KKK, and etc.

    But why aren't people talking about Jewish Power?

    What happened in Charlottesville is classic JQ issue.

    It is the convergence of so many threads that are intertwined with Jewish Power.

    First, we need to ask, what is the ruling power in America? It is Jewish Power, and even some Jews have admitted to this. Some Jews are critical of Jewish power while others wanna shut down all criticism or even the chance of noticing.

    What is the nature of this power? It is supremacist. What do I mean by this? Supremacism is domination over others. It isn't just power contending with other powers but gaining master role over them. For example, every individual has his own portion of power. Some have more, some have less, but apart from work, each American defines his own personal self and personal interests. This is different from master-slave relationship where the slave must sacrifice his own personal interests and needs in service of his master. Master comes first.

    Why is Jewish Power supremacist? Because it demands that non-Jews, especially whites, suspend or nullify their own identity, interests, and agenda to serve the needs of Jewish Power.
    Every group has some power and agenda in the US. Greek-Americans are concerned about Cyprus. Armenian-Americans would like US government to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. Irish-Americans supported IRA in the past. Chinese-Americans are concerned about Chinese interests both here and back home. But none of these groups dare say that their identity and interest must be first and foremost for ALL Americans. So, Greek-Americans lobby for US to side with Greeks in Cyprus, but they don't expect all of us non-Greeks to fixate so much on Greek needs and issues. Even the powerful Irish never expected that non-Irish Americans care about issues pertaining to Ireland. It was their thing. Same with Italian-Americans. So, each group had its interests and power, but never sought supremacist power over others.

    This is where Jews are different. For some reason, AIPAC-dominated Congress says ALL OF US MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL and WARS FOR ISRAEL OR JEWISH GLOBALISM(as in New Cold War with Russia endorsed almost unanimously by Congress as total whore dog to AIPAC). Why? If we are not Jewish, what is it to us? And if we are Arab-Americans, maybe we want the US policy to pay more heed to needs of Arabs/Palestinians.

    Now, Jews caring about Israel, Jewish history, or Jewish identity is NOT a problem. Every group should guard and work for its power and interests. In this, Jews would be no different from any other group. It's like Mexican-Americans have their own issues. So do Filipino-Americans and their lobby. But Jewish power doesn't end there. It goes into supremacist gear and says the US government, all politicians, the media, the courts, the academia, and etc should all use their faculties to compel ALL OF US to put Jewish power, identity, interests, and agenda over OUR OWN. Jews don't have to put Irish interests or Greek interests above their own, but Irish-Americans, Greek-Americans, and the rest of us must ALL sing hosanna to Jews, Israel, Holocaust-as-religion, and even Homomania, the proxy of Jewish Globalism. Look how Evangelicals worship Israel above Jesus.

    We have to understand THIS FACT of America before we discuss all else that are related to Charlottesville.

    Now, not all Jewish-Americans are in supremacist mode, but Jewish Power certainly is in that mode due to AIPAC, ADL, Hollywood, Wall Street, War State, Las Vegas, law firms, and courts. Too many Jews in those institutions and industries are all-out Zionist-Globalists. Consider Sheldon 'nuke Iran' Adelson the lunatic who is allowed to play key role in GOP politics. (When a Jewish mogul calls for nuking of a nation that never attacked us and has no nukes, that is not 'hate' in the current zeitgeist. He is 'respectable'. He can buy up so many politicians.)

    Why would Jewish Supremacism fear White Identity politics so much? Why does Jewish Supremacism demean white identity politics as 'supremacist' when, for the most part, Alt Right is NOT white supremacist. Most Alt Right whites want to be left alone and don't want the West to be invaded. They don't want to invade other nations(and if anything, they've opposed almost all wars and invasions by the US). And they don't want to tell OTHER groups what to do. Alt Right is not about demanding non-whites to be slave-like and serve whites. Alt Right is saying whites have their own identity and should determine their own destiny based on white needs. Alt Right is anti-immigration for the common-sense fact that mass colonization by foreigners totally changes a nation. (That is the reason why Israel only allows Jewish immigration. Is that 'supremacist'? The dominant group in any nation wanting to remain dominant is not supremacism. It'd be supremacist if that nation sought domination over other nations.) So, why is mere white identity-and-interests smeared as 'supremacist' by the real supremacists of Jewish power?

    It is because white identity is an obstacle to Jewish Supremacism. For supremacism to work, the 'slave' people have to subsume their own identity and interests into the bigger identity and interests of the 'master' people. This was how Nazi Germany saw its satellites. Nations like Romania and Hungary had to put German power and interests first and foremost before their own. German Supremacism in Europe would have been impossible if each nation insisted on sovereignty and doing its own thing. This is why Hitler hated Poland and then later Spain. Poland wouldn't go along with the Grand Plan with Germany at the center. And Franco's Spain later refused to join Germany in the mad war. (Today, EU-Glob is acting supremacist in demanding that Hungary and Poland put out... or else.)

    Jewish Supremacists hate ANY KIND OF WHITE IDENTITY because whites who gain racial autonomy and sovereignty will put white identity and interests above all else. These whites may be friendly to Jews or their interests may even coincide with those of Jews. But it may sometimes run counter to Jewish interests or even become hostile to Jewish interests or find Jewish interests hostile to them.
    Under such conditions, Jewish Supremacism won't go very far since whites will not cooperate or may even go against Jewish interests to pursue white interests instead.

    The fact is Jewish Supremacism is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT white cooperation and servitude. Jews, as 2% of the population, cannot run everything. Jews may control the commanding heights, but they need whites as generals, officers, soldiers, police, lawyers, clerks, engineers, bureaucrats, teachers, intelligence operatives, and etc. And unless white identity is suppressed, whites will serve either white interest or broader gentile interests than Jewish supremacist interest. Consider if most whites were like Pat Buchanan. Jewish power would not go very far as most whites would put white identity before Jewish interests. Or consider if most whites are like Ron Paul, who isn't into white identity but is into broader sense of liberty. Then, most whites would not feel compelled to favor Jewish interests over that of all Americans regardless of color. As a libertarian, Ron Paul sees no need to favor the biases of Jewish-Americans over Palestinian-Americans. He sees both interests as legit but neither should command the loyalty of Absolute American Power. That would be ethnogarchy, not ethno-democracy where various ethnic groups argue and negotiate for power. Jewish Supremacists want ALL OF AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL and NOTHING FOR PALESTINIANS. Look how Jewish supremacists are clamping down on BDS like on Alt Right. Palestinian interests challenge Zionist interests in Israel-Palestine. White Identity and Palestinian Interests are taken out to the field to be shot in the back of the head.

    This is why Jewish supremacists feel a need to clamp down on ANY show of white identity as 'nazi' or 'white supremacist'. It is classic projection by Jewish supremacists.

    Now, if Jewish supremacists suppress white identity, why do they play up non-white identities, especially that of blacks? And why of homos? Because boosting certain minority identity can guilt-bait white identity. By playing up black slavery and 'Jim Crow' narrative, white identity can be made to feel shame and guilty and deferential and reverential to black victimhood. This suppresses racial pride and agency on the part of whites. Such moral servility is easier to exploit by Jewish Supremacists. This is why Jewish Hollywood made stuff like 12 YRS A SLAVE, HIDDEN FIGURES, BUTLER, SELMA, and is now making three Emitt Till movies. This is where BLM is useful.
    Now, if blacks were the huge majority of America(like in South Africa), Jews would be afraid of black pride, black identity, and black power. But because blacks are still a minority, their identity and interests are regarded as useful tools by Jewish supremacists.
    As for homo identity, the idea of elite minority privilege(and homos are elite minorities) complements Jewish elite minority power. Also, homomania and its related gender-ideology spreads pansiness among white males. Also, Queertianity as the controlled 'new christianity' of Jewish suprmacists finally supplants the Faith in Jesus that held white world with so much confidence and conviction in the past.

    Now, what about Antifa? Antifa is supposedly 'communist' even though its members are mostly grunge-punk anarcho-syndicalists or more like cynicalists. They are into drugs, degeneracy, and filth. But they want some meaning in life, and 'bashing the fash' gives them meaning. They are soul-damaged garbage who feel so worthless that they can only feel good and justified by hunting down 'nazis' and 'KKK', the cartoon faces of evil. It's like playing Mighty Morphin Power Rangeres.

    Why would Jewish supremacist globalist-capitalists of Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and etc want Antifa commies on their side? Jewish elites are rich and successful. Antifa are bottomfeeding trash. Because Jewish elites don't have muscle on the ground against groups like Alt Right. Jewish lawyers, Jewish financiers, Jewish producers, and their kids are not going to fight in the streets and beat up 'nazis' and Alt Right. They are too refined for that. Some may join IDF but that is a respectable military unit. To 'punch a nazi', Jewish supremacists must rely on goons. It's like Big Businesses used to hire gangsters and goons to beat up workers. It's like in MATEWAN.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViswBS1Q-_E

    https://youtu.be/TcNXuETH1QQ?t=1m56s

    The rich bosses, their colleagues, and their posh kids are not going to dirty their hands by fighting the workers. So, they hire goons who are not very educated. And these goons are indoctrinated that they must fight the 'commies'. Back then, big business hired gangsters or rightists to bash communists, unions, and workers.

    But the white right has its own ideas and isn't very useful to Jewish supremacists. Jewish supremacists must rely on the 'left' and 'commies' to bash the fash of the white right. So, Jewish capitalists must work with 'communists'. But then, Jewish capitalists aided Bolsheviks for the same reason in the Russian Revolution and then Civil War. Jewish capitalists didn't care for communism but they wanted White Russian Power crushed for all time.

    Antifa is useful to Jewish supremacists for the same reason that ISIS-Alqaeda was useful to Zionists in Syria. Jewish supremacists will even recruit Neo-Nazis, as in Maidan in Ukraine, to get what they want. Jewish supremacists are hellbent on destroying Russia, and the 'antifa' they found in Ukraine was on the far right.

    So, if we place Jewish Supremacism at the center of discourse, what happened at Charlottesville makes more sense. And the media reaction makes more sense too. Why does the media exaggerate Alt Right extremism but overlook Antifa, the Janissary of Jewish Power? For the same reason Jewish Supremacists pretended Syrian war was between evil Assad backed by new hitler Putin while the Syrian opposition are a bunch of White Helmet freedom-fighters. After all, who owns and runs much of MSM?

    At the center of it is the Jewish Supremacist question of "Is it good for Jews?"

    But why are the cucked out whites fighting for Jewish supremacism under the guise of being anti-fascist?

    Are they so stupid they don’t know their masters?

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    Yes. Exactly that.
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  63. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Randal
    Fundamentally pretty simple issue, for an outside observer. People gathered for a lawful political demonstration. Political opponents came in an organised and violent attempt to shout them down and intimidate them, and the police deliberately failed to protect them from harassment. Violence resulted, and the ones primarily to blame for the violence are first those who came to cause trouble, not those who assembled to peaceably and lawfully demonstrate, and second the authorities who deliberately failed to protect the peace for political motives.

    The degree to which the mainstream media and establishment right politicians deny that reality and seek to blame the victims is the degree to which the US media and establishment right are corrupt and dishonest.

    It's pretty clear what the first step for US conservatives should be - voting out every establishment Republican collaborator with the left who enthusiastically blamed the victims over Charlottesville. Can they do it without being co-opted as the "tea party" movement was? Time will tell.

    Very thoughtful.

    But can it happen?

    McCain has shown himself over and over again to be a traitor to his nation and his people, and yet he was continually put back into office by the voters of Arizona.

    If a truly world class monster like McCain can continue to gain office, there is little or no hope for the electorate to solve this problem.

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    I tend to agree, but I'm a natural pessimist.

    On the other hand, the aforementioned tea party movement made some headway and bagged a few scalps before it was co-opted by the interventionist lobbies and the internationalists.

    A Trumpist movement could maybe take down at least a few of the McCain types (a bit late in his case, of course).

    There are two obvious flags that should be used to identify individuals to be targeted for political defeat:

    1 Blaming the victims in Charlottesville

    2 Declaring that "racism is evil" when in reality it's just a legitimate political opinion, right or wrong.

    Of course it's complicated by the fact that the pressure on politicians to kowtow to the above lies is overwhelming, but any who come out quickly and enthusiastically with either of those two great lies can safely be viewed as part of the problem.

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  64. @Anonymous
    The car was attacked before hitting the crowd.

    https://kek.gg/i/5_phf6.jpg

    well, the spin doctors are out here at unz.com
    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery? other than that the north & south were pretty much the same. yes i know the north held slaves too. but they abolished slavery. and lincoln never tried to free slaves, just that new states must be free states. he did emancipate slaves during the conflict, yes.

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    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery?
     
    Perhaps you didn't notice, but there hasn't been any slavery in the US for well over a century, so demonstrators can hardly be "protecting" it.

    In the real world, the men who fought for the states of the Confederacy did so for many reasons, slavery being only one and for most not the main one (that was probably patriotic loyalty), or even, in many cases, one they supported at all.

    Likewise, those who protect the monuments of the Confederacy today do so for many reasons, the main ones probably being tradition, and as a symbol of dissent from Washington and the US elite. Some of those reasons are good and some bad, doubtless, but I suspect it's probably safe to say that beyond the odd attention-seeking freak there won't have been any who actually seek to restore slavery.
    , @Chris Mallory

    other than that the north & south were pretty much the same
     
    This shows you really need to do more reading.
    , @Jake
    The white south and white north were never the same culturally, no more than Ireland and England are the same. And slavery was not the reason.

    If you have a real interest in learning, I suggest you read Cavalier and Yankee by William R. Taylor; Cracker Culture by Grady McWhiney; and Albion's Seed by David Hackett Fischer.
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  65. Randal says:
    @lavoisier
    Very thoughtful.

    But can it happen?

    McCain has shown himself over and over again to be a traitor to his nation and his people, and yet he was continually put back into office by the voters of Arizona.

    If a truly world class monster like McCain can continue to gain office, there is little or no hope for the electorate to solve this problem.

    I tend to agree, but I’m a natural pessimist.

    On the other hand, the aforementioned tea party movement made some headway and bagged a few scalps before it was co-opted by the interventionist lobbies and the internationalists.

    A Trumpist movement could maybe take down at least a few of the McCain types (a bit late in his case, of course).

    There are two obvious flags that should be used to identify individuals to be targeted for political defeat:

    1 Blaming the victims in Charlottesville

    2 Declaring that “racism is evil” when in reality it’s just a legitimate political opinion, right or wrong.

    Of course it’s complicated by the fact that the pressure on politicians to kowtow to the above lies is overwhelming, but any who come out quickly and enthusiastically with either of those two great lies can safely be viewed as part of the problem.

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  66. Randal says:
    @Lawrence Fitton
    well, the spin doctors are out here at unz.com
    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery? other than that the north & south were pretty much the same. yes i know the north held slaves too. but they abolished slavery. and lincoln never tried to free slaves, just that new states must be free states. he did emancipate slaves during the conflict, yes.

    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery?

    Perhaps you didn’t notice, but there hasn’t been any slavery in the US for well over a century, so demonstrators can hardly be “protecting” it.

    In the real world, the men who fought for the states of the Confederacy did so for many reasons, slavery being only one and for most not the main one (that was probably patriotic loyalty), or even, in many cases, one they supported at all.

    Likewise, those who protect the monuments of the Confederacy today do so for many reasons, the main ones probably being tradition, and as a symbol of dissent from Washington and the US elite. Some of those reasons are good and some bad, doubtless, but I suspect it’s probably safe to say that beyond the odd attention-seeking freak there won’t have been any who actually seek to restore slavery.

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    Very balanced and well-argued post, thank you. You have taken no sides and have been impartial to both sides. Unfortunately, in today's anti-Trump hysteria being raised by the corrupt, lying media that caters only to the so-called "progressives" (privileged and hypocritical elites, most of them) truth has become a casualty. It is most unfortunate that this incident took place, but it is equally unfortunate that acts of violence on the part of the so-called left are glossed over and suppressed by the partisan media. What is the way ahead? Unless that is honestly considered, with considerable reasonableness and goodwill on both sides, America could end up sleep-walking towards civil breakdown and chaos. Let us not wish for that, for in that case all will be losers.
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  67. iffen says:
    @Randal

    What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump’s election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable “opposition” opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use “racist” and “anti-Semite” smears (plus their weaker siblings “sexist,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe”) as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.
     
    Absolutely.

    There's a famous quote attributed to Erdogan that says words to the effect of: "democracy is like a tram - you ride it until you reach your destination and then you get off".

    Well for the left, free speech is like that. They loudly declared their allegiance to it until they were sure that they themselves were safely the ones who would decide what speech would be suppressed, and then they got off.

    and then they got off.

    Following rules is not the ultimate objective of political activity; winning is the objective.

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    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.
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  68. CCZ says:

    And for his analysis, Dr. Cathey receives the Southern Poverty Law Center designation extremist hater:

    Extremist Info
    Group
    Institute for Historical Review
    Ideology
    Neo-Confederate

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/boyd-catheyAbout Boyd Cathey

    “Like their forbears of 1860-1861, those engaged in the heritage struggle today see themselves in a direct line from Washington, Madison, Jefferson, and so many others, defending the same principles and the same inherited cultural legacy. They want only to live those same principles… .”

    For three decades, radical right-wing activist and author Boyd Cathey has worked to bridge mainstream conservative politics and the far-right fringe worlds of Holocaust denial, extremist Catholicism, and racially tinged neo-Confederate causes.

    At least SPLC didn’t relegate Dr. Cathey to the category General Hate:

    “These groups espouse a variety of rather unique hateful doctrines and beliefs that are not easily categorized.”

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  69. Randal says:
    @iffen
    and then they got off.

    Following rules is not the ultimate objective of political activity; winning is the objective.

    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

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    Agree: iffen
     
    Bloody Hell!

    It must be a sign that the end times are upon us! :-)
    , @iffen
    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    A gold nugget of insight!

    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state's police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor's abuse of police power in the 60's?

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  70. peterAUS says:

    Some erudite comments, hence, most likely, some intelligent, educated and mature people here.
    So, a simple question for you guys.

    Do you REALLY believe that your problem can be solved without significant internal violence?
    Violent demonstrations, shootouts and bombings at minimum. Read Northern Ireland.
    Most likely civil war style battles. Read breakup of USSR/Yugoslavia.

    The best example would be, actually, events around 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.
    Just follow that from the start to the end.

    Just curious.

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    peterAUS says:

    "Do you REALLY believe that your problem can be solved without significant internal violence?"


    No it cannot be, not in the slightest. It's not that I'm advocating violence, but the system needs to not only be destroyed, but utterly obliterated from existence.
    People fail to see that the problem is the system.

    Take democracy, for example. On paper it's a great idea, but democracy only works within a society within people of the same race, culture and history. The minute you implement democracy into a society of diverse people, then you are doing nothing but starting off the time bomb. Take the current situation within the west? Democracy allows people to vote for whomever they wish. What, therefore, is there to stop Muslims, who grow to become such as size in three generations to create Islamic parties, whose manifesto is merging the state and the mosque into a theocracy under Sharia Law? In essence, democracy will lead to its own destruction.

    This is why the west is so keen to create democracies all over the world, because all the elites need do, is flood them with immigrants in order to control it even more.

    Take the UK for a prime example. The Blair government DELIBERATELY flooded the UK with immigrants in order to fill up cities and add to their voting base. They couldn't care less about the indigenous and their way of life. That stated, politicians in the west are all Zionist puppets, so will always do what's best for Jews before the non Jews. There are 350,000 Jews in the UK. Therefore politicians couldn't give a hoot about the remaining 60+million non Jews.
    Now look at the situation? Just the other week there were MORE riots in London by Black Lives Matter (yes it's over here now) because some black drug dealer died, after being arrested by police, even though it was clearly shown he swallowed something upon arrest, which most certainly resulted in his death. Overdoses tend to do that.

    The establishment is corrupt. It's always been corrupt. Government was created only to give people the illusion that they have a say in how their country is run, in order to stop the revolutions that were happening every 5 years or so.

    You cannot use the system to defeat the system. It's like putting a paedophile in a courtroom, expecting him to be put in jail, when you fail to realise that not only are the judge and lawyers paedophiles, but so are all the jury.
    , @epochehusserl
    Even if you were willing to engage in violence, you still have to have ideas to hold onto power. Richard Spencer doesnt have any ideas, the alt right, do they have any sensible ideas? If the right wanted power then say that you want to have more family businesses.
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  71. nickels says:
    @Anonymous
    The car was attacked before hitting the crowd.

    https://kek.gg/i/5_phf6.jpg

    The ‘batmark’ is there before the guy hitting ( unless this is from previous).

    1) dude pulls in, tries to wade thru
    2) hostile line of antifa with nasty attitudes stand in front of him like ‘You aint getting thru’.
    3) Carrotop starts beating his car (remind you, this is a bery nice car, his pride and joy).
    4) his temper snaps and he demonstrates that he CAN get thru.
    5) he hits the other car. 10 antifa pile on bashing his windows. He has no choice for his own safety to back up (which he should have done at the first stage).

    Carrottop needs to get somekind of manslaughtet charge.

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    Key questions:
    - Did the car gave a GPS nav system?
    - If so, was it in use at the time?

    GPS wouldn't know the street was blocked. This could have routed a car into the crowd, accidentally starting the confrontation. Surprise, adrenaline, and panic can result in very poor decision making.
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  72. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Avery
    What I see is this:

    In the top pic:
    1. Guy white shirt, hat, black bag: looks like he is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    2. Short woman, yellow tank top, black shorts, blue baseball cap: looks like she is trying to get out of the way of the Dodge.
    3. Tall guy behind blue baseball cap woman, looking straight at the Dodge: looks like he is also jumping out of the way of the car.
    4. Tall woman to the left with baseball cap and backpack: her mouth is open, like she's socked by what she sees.....
    5. All the way to the right, guy with black shirt : also has mouth open in surprise....

    As to the breaks: looks like Dodge was semi-slowly driving towards the crowds, tapping the breaks, not trying to run anybody down, but trying to leave or something.
    Then looks like he got attacked, panicked, and jammed the gas to try to get out.

    What was he doing driving a car down a street jammed with people in the first place?
    Pretty stupid and reckless.
    And a young woman got killed,

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    The link says: "evidence driver was innocent"

    Well, I don't see _any_ evidence he is innocent.
    Quite the contrary.

    Vids are short, and not very clear but I looked at the one above tweet 2:11pm-Aug 13, 2017. It's 4 seconds.

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something. Then a guy on the left steps down the sidewalk and throws a white object which impacts the bumper.

    But the Dodge was clearly driving towards the crowds to start with, _before_ the guy threw the white object at the bumper.
    There were no people around the Dodge at the start of the vid: so he wasn't running away from anything at that point.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.

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  73. helena says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    I have said this over and over and over, however I simply cannot get this point across or anyone to take it serious and into consideration, and that being : there is only one method which can be used to rectify this whole scenario and set it right and that being :

    Starting with DT himself we must begin relentless labeling them, the crazy leftists as : RACISTS.

    TURN IT AROUND

    Sort of like this : " The racist leftist have incited rioting in again another attempt to camoflage and hide their own racist worldview"

    DT should begin twittering messages referring to them, the leftist nut-cases, as hard-core racists, and this will catalyst the effect of them losing the last remnants of their deranged minds and they will then go off the deep end and they will totally incapacitate themselves and become docile as the brainless sheep which they are.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    Agree. Mirror mirror mirror. It’s the only way forward. Never mind marching to unite the right, march to defeat Marxism – anti-ma demos for every leftist protest.

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  74. Zumbuddi says:
    @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    Yo noe. Are Germans allowed to have nationalist senti.e ts? How are Germans allowed to express German pride? The current germ flag was imposed on Germans by the same for e that told southerners they had no state sovereignty and must edge allegiance to the northern / union flag, or die.

    If German National So Calista are not e titled to free speech in usa, then how is that different from the alleged crib
    Rd of Nazism?

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  75. @Lawrence Fitton
    well, the spin doctors are out here at unz.com
    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery? other than that the north & south were pretty much the same. yes i know the north held slaves too. but they abolished slavery. and lincoln never tried to free slaves, just that new states must be free states. he did emancipate slaves during the conflict, yes.

    other than that the north & south were pretty much the same

    This shows you really need to do more reading.

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  76. schrub says:
    @Anonymous
    The car was attacked before hitting the crowd.

    https://kek.gg/i/5_phf6.jpg

    This picture will never see the light of day in MSM. You can bet on this!

    I personally think that this driver initially hit the car in front because he had been distracted by the people behind him beating on his car. Then, he must have thought he had two choices. He could have simply stayed put out of hope that the very angry crowd wouldn’t attack him or he could get the hell out of there. He panicked and backed up out of fear that the crowd would attack him once he was hemmed in by it.

    Unfortunately, the crowd had already quickly re-grouped behind his car so his escape route was blocked. He probably didn’t realize this when he put his car in reverse and push on the gas pedal.

    Backing up rapidly and safely is difficult for even an expert driver in a calm situation. In a crowded threatening situation like this its is almost impossible especially because this driver was probably already rattled because he had already seen (or actually experienced) what these Jewish Defense League organized and directed crowds were capable of.

    The aforementioned “selectivity” of the MSM reminds me of “white man” George Zimmerman. Pictures of the extremely bloody injuries that Zimmerman had received from “Obama’s son and scholar ” Trayvon Martin before Zimmerman shot Martin were never seen the media until months after the event took place. Many have still not seen them. This deliberate delay was the result of the MSM wanting to give the impression that the shooting of Martin was random and unprovoked and simply the result of white racism.

    Ironically, the dark skinned Zimmerman would have been called a “person of color” by the MSM if a white person had shot him instead.

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  77. Randal says:
    @Randal
    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    Agree: iffen

    Bloody Hell!

    It must be a sign that the end times are upon us! :-)

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  78. @anarchyst
    ...the so-called "nazis" and "kkk" types present at the Charlottesville demonstration were actually leftists costumed as such in order to provoke a response, to which they were wildly successful at. You see, this is a classic "Alinsky tactic" turning the opposition into the enemy, "by any means necessary". One could easily notice the brand-new costumes and flags...Of course, the "mainstream media" fed into this, being to stupid (or sly) to tell the TRUTH about these "demonstrators".
    Add to that, the cops, who sat on their hands, until they actively pushed the alt-right people into the leftist crowd. A denial of civil rights lawsuit by the alt-right people against the police and city administration could go a long way...

    You’re part of the problem. I asked you in another comment for another article if you accepted black/Asian priests-popes (you stated you were RCC). You never answered me. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. Cuck poop Frannie is the one behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. If anyone protests, he says they are not “Christian.”
    The RCC is a homosexual/Freemasonic/multi-culti grand lodge. I follow the news for the archdioceses of New York and Chicago. Homos have taken over. The Zioevangizers are the next problem. Russell Moore the Southern Baptist Convention president condemned the racism of the marchers. This cuck approved a motion to criticize the alt- right a couple of months ago. The Jews are a problem, but RCC/Zioevangizer cucks are worse. Along with criticizing the Jews, the RCC/Zioevangizers need to be criticized. Then you will see a dramatic shift in the movement.

    People need to keep boycotting/attending anything that promotes “universal church” or “universal brotherhood” nonsense. Any group with homos needs to expel the homos.

    Fortunately, many people are beginning to act and things are starting to happen. Hollywood movie revenues are collapsing. The RCC is closing many churches in the USA. It’s the white Christian cucks that are the problem. They will not defend the West. RCC cucks like Robert Royal, Selwyn Duke, Charles Colombe, Robert P. George, Ross Douthat are fervently praying the rosary and hoping the Zioevangizers are right about the rapture. Douthat wrote an article for the New York Times stating Europe must accept a negro future. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/07/the-west-and-what-comes-after/

    Original sin is being born with a low IQ. Asians/blacks have the lowest IQs.

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    I know that there are actually a few hundred white people in America who share your views, but the odds are that you are a plant by either a group Like the SPLC or ADL or the Federal Government.
    , @anarchyst
    I agree with you that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church HAS been compromised by outsiders--jews and protestants, BUT the traditional Catholic Church STILL exists with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) that has rejected ALL of the 1960s "modernisms" that the Church was subject to. From recognizing jewish responsibility for Jesus Christ's crucifixion and death, to rejection of the "modern Mass", and the jewification and protestantization of Catholic doctrine, traditional Catholics DO have an outlet...
    I have no problem with the "universality" of the Catholic Church, as long as congregations of the various ethnic groups are permitted to establish their own Catholic communities, not unlike the situation in the early 20th century, in which various ethnic groups raised funds and built their own churches and congregations.
    As to the homosexual takeover of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church, that was engineered by bishops and priests of the "lavender lobby" which co-opted the seminary system, keeping out good (heterosexual) candidates for the priesthood while paving the way for their homosexual "buddies" to have access to a horribly perverted homosexual cabal within the Church. The mistake was accepting homosexual candidates for the priesthood merely by exacting a "promise" from them not to act on their homosexual tendencies. We know how well THAT worked out...
    The traditional pre-Vatican II Catholic Church, warts and all, STILL has validity in today's world.
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  79. A123 says:
    @nickels
    The 'batmark' is there before the guy hitting ( unless this is from previous).

    1) dude pulls in, tries to wade thru
    2) hostile line of antifa with nasty attitudes stand in front of him like 'You aint getting thru'.
    3) Carrotop starts beating his car (remind you, this is a bery nice car, his pride and joy).
    4) his temper snaps and he demonstrates that he CAN get thru.
    5) he hits the other car. 10 antifa pile on bashing his windows. He has no choice for his own safety to back up (which he should have done at the first stage).

    Carrottop needs to get somekind of manslaughtet charge.

    Key questions:
    – Did the car gave a GPS nav system?
    – If so, was it in use at the time?

    GPS wouldn’t know the street was blocked. This could have routed a car into the crowd, accidentally starting the confrontation. Surprise, adrenaline, and panic can result in very poor decision making.

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  80. Harbinger says:
    @peterAUS
    Some erudite comments, hence, most likely, some intelligent, educated and mature people here.
    So, a simple question for you guys.

    Do you REALLY believe that your problem can be solved without significant internal violence?
    Violent demonstrations, shootouts and bombings at minimum. Read Northern Ireland.
    Most likely civil war style battles. Read breakup of USSR/Yugoslavia.

    The best example would be, actually, events around 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.
    Just follow that from the start to the end.

    Just curious.

    peterAUS says:

    “Do you REALLY believe that your problem can be solved without significant internal violence?”

    No it cannot be, not in the slightest. It’s not that I’m advocating violence, but the system needs to not only be destroyed, but utterly obliterated from existence.
    People fail to see that the problem is the system.

    Take democracy, for example. On paper it’s a great idea, but democracy only works within a society within people of the same race, culture and history. The minute you implement democracy into a society of diverse people, then you are doing nothing but starting off the time bomb. Take the current situation within the west? Democracy allows people to vote for whomever they wish. What, therefore, is there to stop Muslims, who grow to become such as size in three generations to create Islamic parties, whose manifesto is merging the state and the mosque into a theocracy under Sharia Law? In essence, democracy will lead to its own destruction.

    This is why the west is so keen to create democracies all over the world, because all the elites need do, is flood them with immigrants in order to control it even more.

    Take the UK for a prime example. The Blair government DELIBERATELY flooded the UK with immigrants in order to fill up cities and add to their voting base. They couldn’t care less about the indigenous and their way of life. That stated, politicians in the west are all Zionist puppets, so will always do what’s best for Jews before the non Jews. There are 350,000 Jews in the UK. Therefore politicians couldn’t give a hoot about the remaining 60+million non Jews.
    Now look at the situation? Just the other week there were MORE riots in London by Black Lives Matter (yes it’s over here now) because some black drug dealer died, after being arrested by police, even though it was clearly shown he swallowed something upon arrest, which most certainly resulted in his death. Overdoses tend to do that.

    The establishment is corrupt. It’s always been corrupt. Government was created only to give people the illusion that they have a say in how their country is run, in order to stop the revolutions that were happening every 5 years or so.

    You cannot use the system to defeat the system. It’s like putting a paedophile in a courtroom, expecting him to be put in jail, when you fail to realise that not only are the judge and lawyers paedophiles, but so are all the jury.

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  81. yeah says:
    @Randal

    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery?
     
    Perhaps you didn't notice, but there hasn't been any slavery in the US for well over a century, so demonstrators can hardly be "protecting" it.

    In the real world, the men who fought for the states of the Confederacy did so for many reasons, slavery being only one and for most not the main one (that was probably patriotic loyalty), or even, in many cases, one they supported at all.

    Likewise, those who protect the monuments of the Confederacy today do so for many reasons, the main ones probably being tradition, and as a symbol of dissent from Washington and the US elite. Some of those reasons are good and some bad, doubtless, but I suspect it's probably safe to say that beyond the odd attention-seeking freak there won't have been any who actually seek to restore slavery.

    Very balanced and well-argued post, thank you. You have taken no sides and have been impartial to both sides. Unfortunately, in today’s anti-Trump hysteria being raised by the corrupt, lying media that caters only to the so-called “progressives” (privileged and hypocritical elites, most of them) truth has become a casualty. It is most unfortunate that this incident took place, but it is equally unfortunate that acts of violence on the part of the so-called left are glossed over and suppressed by the partisan media. What is the way ahead? Unless that is honestly considered, with considerable reasonableness and goodwill on both sides, America could end up sleep-walking towards civil breakdown and chaos. Let us not wish for that, for in that case all will be losers.

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    " goodwill on both sides"

    Yeah sure : goodwill coming from the leftists.

    The leftists, will never resort to "goodwill" or fairplay, period, and the sooner this is finally realized the better.

    Just which alternate universe are you posting from, surely not from the one in which we are located, and in which leftists comprise of the most underhanded, dissolute, dirty-trick playing scumbags, walking around on this insane planet.

    There is only one solution/resolution to the pandemonia which is now just revving up : Defeat them or be defeated, and liquidated.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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  82. Jake says:
    @Lawrence Fitton
    well, the spin doctors are out here at unz.com
    someone please tell me what culture are southerns trying to protect if not slavery? other than that the north & south were pretty much the same. yes i know the north held slaves too. but they abolished slavery. and lincoln never tried to free slaves, just that new states must be free states. he did emancipate slaves during the conflict, yes.

    The white south and white north were never the same culturally, no more than Ireland and England are the same. And slavery was not the reason.

    If you have a real interest in learning, I suggest you read Cavalier and Yankee by William R. Taylor; Cracker Culture by Grady McWhiney; and Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fischer.

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  83. Jake says:
    @attilathehen
    You're part of the problem. I asked you in another comment for another article if you accepted black/Asian priests-popes (you stated you were RCC). You never answered me. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. Cuck poop Frannie is the one behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. If anyone protests, he says they are not "Christian."
    The RCC is a homosexual/Freemasonic/multi-culti grand lodge. I follow the news for the archdioceses of New York and Chicago. Homos have taken over. The Zioevangizers are the next problem. Russell Moore the Southern Baptist Convention president condemned the racism of the marchers. This cuck approved a motion to criticize the alt- right a couple of months ago. The Jews are a problem, but RCC/Zioevangizer cucks are worse. Along with criticizing the Jews, the RCC/Zioevangizers need to be criticized. Then you will see a dramatic shift in the movement.

    People need to keep boycotting/attending anything that promotes "universal church" or "universal brotherhood" nonsense. Any group with homos needs to expel the homos.

    Fortunately, many people are beginning to act and things are starting to happen. Hollywood movie revenues are collapsing. The RCC is closing many churches in the USA. It's the white Christian cucks that are the problem. They will not defend the West. RCC cucks like Robert Royal, Selwyn Duke, Charles Colombe, Robert P. George, Ross Douthat are fervently praying the rosary and hoping the Zioevangizers are right about the rapture. Douthat wrote an article for the New York Times stating Europe must accept a negro future. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/07/the-west-and-what-comes-after/


    Original sin is being born with a low IQ. Asians/blacks have the lowest IQs.

    I know that there are actually a few hundred white people in America who share your views, but the odds are that you are a plant by either a group Like the SPLC or ADL or the Federal Government.

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    WOW!! I will safely assume you are RCC. I can thus state you are a cuck and the problem. The West will not be able to solve its problems until it deals with the 2 most evil, oxymoronic beliefs: universal brotherhood and universal church. The RCC is the no. 1 proponent of this. The College of Cardinals is now majority black/Asian. The next pope will be non-white. I constantly read that men are more logical then women, but RCC/Zioevangier men become hysterical when I comment that Christianity, the communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians. I provide concrete examples of countries that prove this: which country is better - RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? Caucasian RCC men will OSCULUM INFAME a black/Asian priests-popes. I can blame the Jews for alot of problems, but the RCC/Zioevangizers cause more problems. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. What destroyed the ancient Egyptians? Miscegenation with blacks. What destroyed the ancient Aryan Indians? Mixing with the Asian aborigines. Caucasians have the highest IQs and are the only ones capable of producing functioning civilizations. Can you not separate biology from beliefs? Can you not deal with the reality that nothing can be done for people with an IQ of 89 or less (most are Asian/black)? Can you not deal with the reality that biology is destiny? Can you not deal with the fact that the communion wafer cannot change a person? Martin Luther was correct in that humans are dung forms and Christianity is only a light snow cover. Can you not deal with the fact that it was the RCC Ted Kennedy along with the Jews who changed the USA's immigration policy? Can you not deal with the fact that the US bishops are doing whatever they can to get the illegals amnestied? In what world do you live??? But the good news is the RCC is collapsing. The total number of nuns is now more than 50% black/Asian and the orders are dying. The number of priests is down dramatically and the only priests coming down the road are black/Asian affirmative action quotas. The RCC has made it easier for people to be declared saints. More than 95% of RCC saints are Cauasian/European. The RCC now has affirmative action sainthood. I am still a Christian, but the churches have to deal with biological realities. We have reached the end of time. Space colonization will never happen. There are no outer space aliens who will come to save us. You need to face reality and deal with objective truth. Diversity destroys. It has destroyed the RCC.
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  84. Moi says:
    @wayfarer
    “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VqGayfRNI

    Whitey is sleeping, and one day he’ll wake up to find himself a minority in his own country.

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  85. Alden says:

    attilathehen used to post her or his nonsense about black and Asian priests here and there on different sites using the name Betty But most moderators have banned him or her.

    attilathehen isn’t a former catholic. Only American Protestants refer to the Catholic Church as RCC.

    Who knows who Attila really is.

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  86. WW-I or World War Identity is like a war for water-wells.

    Remember the scene in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA where Arabs fight over water well and who may carry the water.

    Ground is dry but deep down, there is water to keep people and animals alive, to make things grow.

    Identity is the same way. Deeper you dig, more water you find.

    WW-I is about deep wells vs shallow puddles. The Right is about deep wells of identity. The ‘Left’ is about shallow puddles of makeshift splashing around. Like kids playing with water hydrants in crowded cities.

    True German-ness is a deep well. It has real history, ethnicity, memory, and territory. Same goes for true Chineseness. Or Jewishness. Jewishness is a very deep identity with ancient roots, bloodlines, culture, sense of tribe, shared triumphs and tragedies, loyalties of family and kin.

    In contrast, most of ‘Leftist’ identity is shallow and fleeting, especially with rise of ‘gender politics’. It can be very excitable, noisy, and violent, but it’s like kids in batman costumes throwing tantrums because they want to play some more! It’s like some guy Meso-American guy calling himself ‘they’.

    http://dennismichaellynch.com/berkeley-killer-wants-referred/

    Or, it’s about Bruce Jenner who decided he is ‘woman of the year’. Or, it’s about primarily identifying with some subculture like video game community, grunge community, etc. It’s about defining oneself by number of tattoos or piercings. It’s about worship of the homo-rainbow. Homos have been around forever but their identity cannot be deep because homos are more like mushrooms than trees. A tree is one whole unit from roots to the top. Homos, in contrast, pop up randomly(and most robustly around dead trees). A Jew can trace his Jewishness back many many many generations. But homos cannot. Most homos are children of straight parents, and even if homos decide to have kids, chances are the kids will be straight. So, there is no ‘line of my people’ among homos.

    Another ‘Leftist’ identity is grievance and victimhood, but this is problematic because it assumes a people have a meaningful identity ONLY AS victims. Using this logic, those who win have no right of identity. Only losers deserve identity. This is why Jews, even as new winners, cling to victim mentality. But this is partly ingrained in Christian moral view as well, one that says ‘meek shall inherit the earth’. (Geeks seem to be doing it, though.) Feminism defines female identity only in terms of victimhood and resistance in the form of ‘empowerment’. So, without the element of hatred for the ‘oppressor’, feminist identity has no meaning.
    Or, among libertarians, the only identity that matters is the ‘individual’. The most radical version of this is Ayn-Randism. But the problem is most individuals are just ordinary people. They are not Howard Roarks or even Keatings or Tooheys. They are just ‘nobodies’ as Biff reminds his father in DEATH OF A SALESMAN. So, libertarianism is fun ONLY IF you can rise high and become some super-person. For the hoi polloi, libertarianism just means hedonism or some generic commitment to liberty under the law. Not a bad thing but hardly deep in meaning.

    The most substantive Leftist identity so far has been the Worker. This was compelling because class is indeed important and, in 19th century and much of 20th century, huge swaths of working class folks found themselves to have collective interests against the Owner Class.
    But alas, even Class Identity didn’t turn out to be resilient. As economy changed, working class lost out to white collar class. And as technology changed, many once class-bound jobs were wiped out.
    Also, in modern societies, there was too much social mobility. For class identity to be truly strong and deep, it has to be caste identities that locks people into certain duties and roles. But such was not the case in the modern world. The fall of communism shows the limits of Leftist identity. Some might say the Fall of Nazism has discredited national or ethnic identities, but I disagree. After all, Nazism didn’t fail because it guarded and promoted German identity and culture. It failed because it abused, violated, and trampled on the national identities and interests of OTHER peoples. Russians fought mainly for the Motherland and Survival as Race. Stalin appealed to patriotism and nationalism above all else in the war against Nazi imperialism. And it was Chinese nationalism that united KMT and communists in the war against Japan.

    In contrast to Leftist and post-leftist identities that are now shallow puddles — making loud splashes but utterly devoid of depth and meaning — , there is the Rightist identity of blood, history, memory, and territory. Blood and Soil, Mind and Memory. Jews themselves figured this out. Many had tried anarchism, Marxism, Leninism, syndicalism, and many other ideologies. In the end, all passed with the winds of fashion. At the end of the day, the only meaningful identity was Jewishness. It’s like Jewish French Maoists later became Zionists.
    Now, ideologies have values as carriers of ideas, but a set of ideas cannot be the core IDENTITY of a person. This is true both personally and collectively. An individual who defines himself ONLY in terms of his ideas & conceits and ignores his parents, ancestors, tribe, kin, culture, and history of his people is a shallow person.

    In the end, those with deep identities win over those with shallow identities. It’s like trees with deeper roots withstand the elements better than trees with shallow roots do. It’s like those with deeper wells can survive a drought better than those with only puddles or very shallow wells. (The only universal creed with deep well may be Christianity and Islam. Their profundity ensures this, as conveyed in the final scene of SILENCE by Martin Scorsese: How the man never gave up faith in Christ even in a strange pagan land. Even so, as Christianity becomes more ‘inclusive’ and conversionary and even caving to homomania, who knows its future?)

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    Because those with deep wells of identity win over those with shallow puddles, WW-I is about Jewish supremacists wanting deep wells ONLY FOR THEIR OWN TRIBE. Jews want to draw from a deep well that makes them feel connected to Jews since ancient times. Jews want their own kind to think of Jewish history, culture, suffering, survival, and etc. over 1000s of yrs. Jews want their tribesmen all over the world to support Israel. But Jewish power, especially in supremacist mode, won't go very far without the support of the world, especially the White World where most of the talent and wealth is. So, Jews don't want white folks to have deep wells for themselves. If white folks had deep wells of own identity, they would draw water from their own culture, history, ethnos. They would drink water from the wells of their own blood and soil. (This water imagery is important in religion, which is why Catholics got the ritual with wine and crackers. To feel connected with the blood of Jesus, Son of God.) Or, whites will drink 'racist' white milk from the European Holy Cow, a kind of White Hinduism of Cow Worship.

    In the Constellation there is the Big Dipper. There is also the Constellation of Arcas and Callisto.

    http://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/1997/4/27/the-bears-a-greek-myth

    When Hera saw the stars, she was enraged at the honor the God of Heaven had given Callisto and Arcas. She persuaded Poseidon, the God of the Sea, to forbid the Bears to descend into the ocean, as did the other stars. And so it is that Arcas and Callisto, the Great Bear and the Lesser Bear, alone among all constellations never set below the sky's horizon, but remain forever together in the sky.

    Hera and Poseidon conspire to keep Callisto and Arcas thirsty forever.

    And this is also the way of Jewish supremacists. They don't want white people to dig their own deep wells and drink the water of memory that fills them with a sense of identity, history, pride, and justification. They want white folks to remain thirsty.
    Just as British Imperialists had monopolized salt in India and just as Jewish David Sassoon had monopolize opium trade in China(to make Chinese drugged and amnesiac), Jewish Supremacists want monopoly power over the water well. Only Jews may dig to draw from their deep identity. Whites are to be kept thirsty without wells of their own. Whites are only allowed to drink Kosher Water or something like Brawndo. It has 'electrolytes'. This drink makes whites forget or hate their own identity, crazy for homomania as holiest value, Afromania as biggest passion, and Israel-Israel-Israel as their biggest obligation.

    http://www.brawndo.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boy_tLWeqA

    Alt Right came up with a simple idea. They got tired of the globalist snake-oil peddled to them. Alt Right figured White People should dig their own wells for their sense of who they are. And this made Jewish supremacists mad as hell. Doesn't the Alt Right know that only the Jews have the divine right to dig deep wells of identity? Only Jews deserve deep identity, just like only Jews deserve deep state power to control real power in government. They act British Imperialists who say ONLY BRITS have monopoly on the Salt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEfeEzaulc

    Jewish supremacists seek to poison the water well of white identity just like they poison wells in West Bank. Zionists have also stolen the water of Golan Heights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o2aGCdDiFY

    Every Narrative is a well of memory, and Jewish supremacists say all whites must rely on and accept ONLY THE Jewish narrative of white history, identity, culture, and territory. Jewish supremacists say there is no such thing as Swedish culture, Britain is a 'nation of immigrants'(thus belonging to Muslims and Africans), French culture is just 'diversity', and White Americans must only have 'guilt' and 'shame' as their modes of identity. And if they want to feel justified, SUPPORT ISRAEL. If they want to feel uplifted, play around the homo water hydrant and look at homo rainbow created by the mist.

    Alt Right wants its own water wells. It says white people should write their own history, forge their own narrative, and not rely on Jewish or non-white approval or benediction to feel justified as human beings.

    In a way, Alt Right's Pan-Europeanism is both shallower and deeper than traditional ethno-national consciousness in the West. Pan-Europeanism is more generic than distinct ethno-European identities such as Czech, White Russian, Polish, Swedish, Finnish, and etc.
    But it is deeper in this sense: Dig deep enough into all European peoples and they all flow from a common source of blood and memory. Dig deep enough, and they have the same archetypes in their mythic consciousness. So, even as ethno-nationalism has great value, it is time for all Europeans to come together as a people whose blood all flow from the same deep well. Sure, the globalists and Jewish supremacists try to irrigate White/European identity to fool people that Greeks were not 'white' or Medieval history isn't European or whatever. And globalists like Merkel and Macron seek to FLOOD European blood with the sweat and semen of Muslims and Africans. But Pan-Europeans will not be fooled.

    A people without deep identity are doomed. Even among Jews, those who focus mainly on Jewishness will remain and have meaning. But those Jews who mainly fixate on tattoos, green hair, nose rings, pop culture, and 50 gender decadence will have nothing meaning in their lives in yrs to come. That stuff has 'meaning' only to the infantile and childishly excited.

    Alt Right tries to strike a balance between ethno-nationalism and pan-Europeanism. If whites only go for narrow ethno-nationalism, they will be what the Arabs were when Lawrence came upon them: "so long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel."

    On the other hand, if various European groups totally rejected their distinctness, they would just become too bland and confused, and that leads to slackness and weakness. We want Finns and Hungarians and Lithuanians within Pan-Europeanism.
    , @Che Guava

    Chinese nationalim that united KMT and communists
     
    The communists didn't do much until Japan's China adventture was over, and the Red Army had secured them a nice base in Manchuria. 'United' never applied.

    They spent more time fighting the KMT than the Kwantung and Imperial Armies, with very limited exceptions. Plus the patchwork of warlords and the two Japanese satellite states further complicated things.
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  87. @Priss Factor
    WW-I or World War Identity is like a war for water-wells.

    Remember the scene in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA where Arabs fight over water well and who may carry the water.

    https://youtu.be/ud1zpHW3ito?t=55s

    Ground is dry but deep down, there is water to keep people and animals alive, to make things grow.

    Identity is the same way. Deeper you dig, more water you find.

    WW-I is about deep wells vs shallow puddles. The Right is about deep wells of identity. The 'Left' is about shallow puddles of makeshift splashing around. Like kids playing with water hydrants in crowded cities.

    True German-ness is a deep well. It has real history, ethnicity, memory, and territory. Same goes for true Chineseness. Or Jewishness. Jewishness is a very deep identity with ancient roots, bloodlines, culture, sense of tribe, shared triumphs and tragedies, loyalties of family and kin.

    In contrast, most of 'Leftist' identity is shallow and fleeting, especially with rise of 'gender politics'. It can be very excitable, noisy, and violent, but it's like kids in batman costumes throwing tantrums because they want to play some more! It's like some guy Meso-American guy calling himself 'they'.

    http://dennismichaellynch.com/berkeley-killer-wants-referred/

    Or, it's about Bruce Jenner who decided he is 'woman of the year'. Or, it's about primarily identifying with some subculture like video game community, grunge community, etc. It's about defining oneself by number of tattoos or piercings. It's about worship of the homo-rainbow. Homos have been around forever but their identity cannot be deep because homos are more like mushrooms than trees. A tree is one whole unit from roots to the top. Homos, in contrast, pop up randomly(and most robustly around dead trees). A Jew can trace his Jewishness back many many many generations. But homos cannot. Most homos are children of straight parents, and even if homos decide to have kids, chances are the kids will be straight. So, there is no 'line of my people' among homos.

    Another 'Leftist' identity is grievance and victimhood, but this is problematic because it assumes a people have a meaningful identity ONLY AS victims. Using this logic, those who win have no right of identity. Only losers deserve identity. This is why Jews, even as new winners, cling to victim mentality. But this is partly ingrained in Christian moral view as well, one that says 'meek shall inherit the earth'. (Geeks seem to be doing it, though.) Feminism defines female identity only in terms of victimhood and resistance in the form of 'empowerment'. So, without the element of hatred for the 'oppressor', feminist identity has no meaning.
    Or, among libertarians, the only identity that matters is the 'individual'. The most radical version of this is Ayn-Randism. But the problem is most individuals are just ordinary people. They are not Howard Roarks or even Keatings or Tooheys. They are just 'nobodies' as Biff reminds his father in DEATH OF A SALESMAN. So, libertarianism is fun ONLY IF you can rise high and become some super-person. For the hoi polloi, libertarianism just means hedonism or some generic commitment to liberty under the law. Not a bad thing but hardly deep in meaning.

    The most substantive Leftist identity so far has been the Worker. This was compelling because class is indeed important and, in 19th century and much of 20th century, huge swaths of working class folks found themselves to have collective interests against the Owner Class.
    But alas, even Class Identity didn't turn out to be resilient. As economy changed, working class lost out to white collar class. And as technology changed, many once class-bound jobs were wiped out.
    Also, in modern societies, there was too much social mobility. For class identity to be truly strong and deep, it has to be caste identities that locks people into certain duties and roles. But such was not the case in the modern world. The fall of communism shows the limits of Leftist identity. Some might say the Fall of Nazism has discredited national or ethnic identities, but I disagree. After all, Nazism didn't fail because it guarded and promoted German identity and culture. It failed because it abused, violated, and trampled on the national identities and interests of OTHER peoples. Russians fought mainly for the Motherland and Survival as Race. Stalin appealed to patriotism and nationalism above all else in the war against Nazi imperialism. And it was Chinese nationalism that united KMT and communists in the war against Japan.

    In contrast to Leftist and post-leftist identities that are now shallow puddles --- making loud splashes but utterly devoid of depth and meaning --- , there is the Rightist identity of blood, history, memory, and territory. Blood and Soil, Mind and Memory. Jews themselves figured this out. Many had tried anarchism, Marxism, Leninism, syndicalism, and many other ideologies. In the end, all passed with the winds of fashion. At the end of the day, the only meaningful identity was Jewishness. It's like Jewish French Maoists later became Zionists.
    Now, ideologies have values as carriers of ideas, but a set of ideas cannot be the core IDENTITY of a person. This is true both personally and collectively. An individual who defines himself ONLY in terms of his ideas & conceits and ignores his parents, ancestors, tribe, kin, culture, and history of his people is a shallow person.

    In the end, those with deep identities win over those with shallow identities. It's like trees with deeper roots withstand the elements better than trees with shallow roots do. It's like those with deeper wells can survive a drought better than those with only puddles or very shallow wells. (The only universal creed with deep well may be Christianity and Islam. Their profundity ensures this, as conveyed in the final scene of SILENCE by Martin Scorsese: How the man never gave up faith in Christ even in a strange pagan land. Even so, as Christianity becomes more 'inclusive' and conversionary and even caving to homomania, who knows its future?)

    Because those with deep wells of identity win over those with shallow puddles, WW-I is about Jewish supremacists wanting deep wells ONLY FOR THEIR OWN TRIBE. Jews want to draw from a deep well that makes them feel connected to Jews since ancient times. Jews want their own kind to think of Jewish history, culture, suffering, survival, and etc. over 1000s of yrs. Jews want their tribesmen all over the world to support Israel. But Jewish power, especially in supremacist mode, won’t go very far without the support of the world, especially the White World where most of the talent and wealth is. So, Jews don’t want white folks to have deep wells for themselves. If white folks had deep wells of own identity, they would draw water from their own culture, history, ethnos. They would drink water from the wells of their own blood and soil. (This water imagery is important in religion, which is why Catholics got the ritual with wine and crackers. To feel connected with the blood of Jesus, Son of God.) Or, whites will drink ‘racist’ white milk from the European Holy Cow, a kind of White Hinduism of Cow Worship.

    In the Constellation there is the Big Dipper. There is also the Constellation of Arcas and Callisto.

    http://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/1997/4/27/the-bears-a-greek-myth

    When Hera saw the stars, she was enraged at the honor the God of Heaven had given Callisto and Arcas. She persuaded Poseidon, the God of the Sea, to forbid the Bears to descend into the ocean, as did the other stars. And so it is that Arcas and Callisto, the Great Bear and the Lesser Bear, alone among all constellations never set below the sky’s horizon, but remain forever together in the sky.

    Hera and Poseidon conspire to keep Callisto and Arcas thirsty forever.

    And this is also the way of Jewish supremacists. They don’t want white people to dig their own deep wells and drink the water of memory that fills them with a sense of identity, history, pride, and justification. They want white folks to remain thirsty.
    Just as British Imperialists had monopolized salt in India and just as Jewish David Sassoon had monopolize opium trade in China(to make Chinese drugged and amnesiac), Jewish Supremacists want monopoly power over the water well. Only Jews may dig to draw from their deep identity. Whites are to be kept thirsty without wells of their own. Whites are only allowed to drink Kosher Water or something like Brawndo. It has ‘electrolytes’. This drink makes whites forget or hate their own identity, crazy for homomania as holiest value, Afromania as biggest passion, and Israel-Israel-Israel as their biggest obligation.

    http://www.brawndo.com/

    Alt Right came up with a simple idea. They got tired of the globalist snake-oil peddled to them. Alt Right figured White People should dig their own wells for their sense of who they are. And this made Jewish supremacists mad as hell. Doesn’t the Alt Right know that only the Jews have the divine right to dig deep wells of identity? Only Jews deserve deep identity, just like only Jews deserve deep state power to control real power in government. They act British Imperialists who say ONLY BRITS have monopoly on the Salt.

    Jewish supremacists seek to poison the water well of white identity just like they poison wells in West Bank. Zionists have also stolen the water of Golan Heights.

    Every Narrative is a well of memory, and Jewish supremacists say all whites must rely on and accept ONLY THE Jewish narrative of white history, identity, culture, and territory. Jewish supremacists say there is no such thing as Swedish culture, Britain is a ‘nation of immigrants’(thus belonging to Muslims and Africans), French culture is just ‘diversity’, and White Americans must only have ‘guilt’ and ‘shame’ as their modes of identity. And if they want to feel justified, SUPPORT ISRAEL. If they want to feel uplifted, play around the homo water hydrant and look at homo rainbow created by the mist.

    Alt Right wants its own water wells. It says white people should write their own history, forge their own narrative, and not rely on Jewish or non-white approval or benediction to feel justified as human beings.

    In a way, Alt Right’s Pan-Europeanism is both shallower and deeper than traditional ethno-national consciousness in the West. Pan-Europeanism is more generic than distinct ethno-European identities such as Czech, White Russian, Polish, Swedish, Finnish, and etc.
    But it is deeper in this sense: Dig deep enough into all European peoples and they all flow from a common source of blood and memory. Dig deep enough, and they have the same archetypes in their mythic consciousness. So, even as ethno-nationalism has great value, it is time for all Europeans to come together as a people whose blood all flow from the same deep well. Sure, the globalists and Jewish supremacists try to irrigate White/European identity to fool people that Greeks were not ‘white’ or Medieval history isn’t European or whatever. And globalists like Merkel and Macron seek to FLOOD European blood with the sweat and semen of Muslims and Africans. But Pan-Europeans will not be fooled.

    A people without deep identity are doomed. Even among Jews, those who focus mainly on Jewishness will remain and have meaning. But those Jews who mainly fixate on tattoos, green hair, nose rings, pop culture, and 50 gender decadence will have nothing meaning in their lives in yrs to come. That stuff has ‘meaning’ only to the infantile and childishly excited.

    Alt Right tries to strike a balance between ethno-nationalism and pan-Europeanism. If whites only go for narrow ethno-nationalism, they will be what the Arabs were when Lawrence came upon them: “so long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel.”

    On the other hand, if various European groups totally rejected their distinctness, they would just become too bland and confused, and that leads to slackness and weakness. We want Finns and Hungarians and Lithuanians within Pan-Europeanism.

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    Well done.
    Fascism was Mussolini's (Gentile's) state
    ATTEMPT TO unify the Italian people under a common spiritual vision. No surprise that the need behind antifa came up with that particular meme.
    Reme.ber that pos jew female who made videos of herself shitting? Remember how Abba Eban opened that docu. Heritage of jews? He said "jews don't have great art or monuments. . ." He's right. --- jews specialize in shitting on other cultures --- when they're not destroying them
    , @Mark Green
    Thank you, Priss, for your exceptional insights. Your comments are always interesting, and sometimes brilliant.
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  88. @peterAUS
    Some erudite comments, hence, most likely, some intelligent, educated and mature people here.
    So, a simple question for you guys.

    Do you REALLY believe that your problem can be solved without significant internal violence?
    Violent demonstrations, shootouts and bombings at minimum. Read Northern Ireland.
    Most likely civil war style battles. Read breakup of USSR/Yugoslavia.

    The best example would be, actually, events around 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.
    Just follow that from the start to the end.

    Just curious.

    Even if you were willing to engage in violence, you still have to have ideas to hold onto power. Richard Spencer doesnt have any ideas, the alt right, do they have any sensible ideas? If the right wanted power then say that you want to have more family businesses.

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  89. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rhett Hardwick
    I was equally disturbed by the small news article about the Holocaust Memorial in Boston being vandalized by a "teen". The Chrlotyteville matter can be seem as a conflict of pinions. Vandalizing a Holocaust memorial is pure, unadulterated, crime.

    What I notice is that because it’s glass, it’s a whole new Kristallnacht every time it gets broken, which gives the Jews a reason to be outraged all over again. Apparently it’s never occurred to anybody to make it out of brass so it can take a few knocks. I suspect that it was made out of glass deliberately to arrange ‘convenient moments of perpetual outrage’ for the Jews, and periodically someone on the left goes and pays some black kid to break it, whereupon the Jews are whipped up into a frenzy of donation-giving to leftist causes whenever leftists think their coffers are getting low.

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  90. Ivy Mike says:

    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn’t hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve. And another thing, Lee wasn’t all that and a bag of chips, the South never almost won the war and Lee and Davis damn sure lost it when they decided to let Vicksburg fall to Grant. Even if Lee hadn’t screwed up Gettysburg and had burned DC like the Brits the South was scraping the bottom of the barrel just to support his barefoot army. Lincoln was the Obama of his time but he eventually got out of the way of his army and the whuppin was on. And don’t get so excited about Lee freeing his slaves, his father put it in his will that the slaves would be free the day the estate was profitable. Yes, Lee hated slavery because he hated slaves, they were an inefficient and undisciplined workforce, the opposite of an army. But Lee didn’t whip his slaves, no, he paid professionals to do it…

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    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn’t hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve.
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    That is an incredibly cogent argument about the assertion of group rights. Especially coming from a baby boomer whose generation has bankrupted the country. Thanks a lot.
    , @iffen
    their bread buttered on both sides

    What sort of igmos butter both sides of their bread?
    , @Chris Mallory
    "Hello fellow working class Southerners......"
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  91. The media sound so much like this.

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  92. @Harbinger

    "As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis."
     
    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn't Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn't Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist 'internationalism', which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I'm a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions - mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently - voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those 'white' nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing - had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O'Brian in Orwell's '1984'), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what's happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.

    I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual.

    Neither do antifa. Yet you both depend on it.

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    How on earth do you presume that I depend on it [state control]? How on earth can you even begin to believe that anarchists depend of state control over them, when they do not espouse it?
    For your information, you may well look up YouTube and watch 'alt-right' broadcasts of the 'anarchist' ANTIFA up to their antics, but what you obviously fail to see is that not only is the 'alt-right' NOT right wing, but ANTIFA are NOT anarchists.

    Here's a little help on political placing:

    Communism <<- Socialism <<- Liberalism ->> Conservatism ->> Anarchism

    You CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT have left wing anarchy as it's an oxymoron. In order for the left wing to promote their views, which are pro feminism, pro LGBT, pro anti religion, pro everything not right, they need a mechanism with which to enforce their 'ideals' and voila, the state is born. The state then goes about creating legislation with which to force the beliefs of the left upon those who do not want them. If they do not recognize the demands of the left they find themselves out of work, in a court of law and fined/imprisoned.

    On the contrary, the further right one goes, it moves into an anti statist spectrum, from conservatism (conserving one's culture and traditions) into libertarianism and eventually into anarchy - without rule.

    There is this insane notion that fascism and nazism are right wing. They are not. Fascism is the merger of corporation and the state into an authoritarian system. It is left wing. Nazism, or should I say, national SOCIALISM, is a national control of society by the state. Both fascism and nazism are one and the same - both state control.
    People somehow believe that from conservatism into libertarianism into anarchy, we somehow end up with the state popping up to control everyone.

    What the left hate to admit is that national socialism AND fascism are both left wing, authoritarian ideologies, purely for the sake that the minute you get into any form of control over society, via the state, against the wishes of the individual, to benefit the group, you are moving LEFT of centre, with centre being classic British Liberalism. The further right you move into individuality. The further left you move into the group.

    Is the new world order, that is the creation of a world hive, left wing or right wing, taking into account everything that I've written Marshall?
    Please don't let the highly controlled msm and publishing companies, influence you on their bogus definition of anarchy being left wing or the fake 'alternative right' calling ANTIFA out as left wing anarchists. Anarchism IS right wing. It always HAS been right wing, because it puts the life and choices of the individual first. Extreme right wing is NOT white supremacy. It is anarchy, but that stated, there most certainly will be white supremacists and all sorts of peoples who are anarchists, that is if they don't believe in rulers over people.

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  93. annamaria says:
    @TheJester
    Thank you for eulogizing General Robert E. Lee. I've read his biographies and have placed him in my pantheon as one of the great leaders in western history. And lest we forget, Robert E. Lee freed more slaves than Abraham Lincoln.

    Lee correctly foresaw where the unconstitutional expansion of Federal power would lead. Instead of a federation of sovereign states, the United States now consists of relatively powerless provinces under the thumb of a wealthy urban Deep State bent on a global, multicultural empire. What have we as a nation come to? Two megacities on the coasts separated by rural poverty euphemistically called the Great Flyover.

    Lincoln assumed dictatorial powers during the Civil War as the beginning of the end of the American experiment. Leveraging his example, subsequent Federal governments have continued to usurp more powers until the federation of states is a pale shadow of the original constitutional order.

    Statues of Lincoln should be the ones being torn down, not statues of Lee.

    Another story on the American history: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/08/15/america-propaganda-vanquished-truth/

    “Remember, when Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army, he declined on the grounds that he could not bring war to his own country, by which he meant Virginia.
    Lee’s army was the Army of Northern Virginia.
    As President Lincoln said over and over, the war is not about slavery. It is about “preserving the union,” that is, the empire. … Lincoln did not free the slaves. Moreover, had Lincoln not been assassinated, his plan was to send the blacks, whom he regarded as inferior to whites, back to Africa. This is not a “conspiracy theory.” It is the documented fact. It is totally impossible to refute this documented fact. …

    The first slaves were white slaves, but they died like flies from malaria and yellow fevor. Next indigenious Americans (“Indians”) were used as slaves, but they would not work. Then it was discovered that some Africans had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever, and finally a work force was located. The slaves were purchased from the African tribes that annually conducted warfare between themselves, the booty of which was slaves. Socialist historians, such as Karl Polanyi … wrote detailed and exacting histories of the African slave trade conducted by black Africans. Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, and as every honest historian knows, they were not fighting for slavery. They were fighting, because their country had been invaded. …

    In Durham, North Carolina, the seat of Duke University, a gang of largely white males destroyed public property by pulling down a statue of a Confederate soldier. Perhaps they took their cue from the neo-Nazis installed in Ukraine by Obama and Hillary following the US-engineered coup that overthrew the elected democratic government. The first thing the new Obama-installed neo-Nazi regime did was to pull down all the Soviet war memorials of the liberation of Ukraine from Nazi Germany. The neo-Nazis who pulled down the war memorials were the descendants of the Ukrainians who fought for Nazi Germany. These neo-Nazis comprise the government of the “democracy” that Obama and Hillary brought to the Ukraine and is the government that the US government and its European vassals support.”

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    Yeah, good perspective on how our government always ends up on the side of the Nazis, little known by Americans is that by supporting South Korea and South Vietnam we were siding with the politicians who collaborated with the Japanese Fascists who enslaved those countries in WW2.
    Lincoln fought to preserve the Union, no argument, but it was slavery that split the Union. And African slaves weren't used because they didn't sicken and die, they were used because they were so cheap before the slave trade was banned that by the time most of that died after 2 years of labor the planter had made a profit and could go down to the corner market and buy some more.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You may be right about some Ukrainans but my understand is that characterising them all or mostly as Neo-Nazis and by descent from those who "fought for Nazi Germany"may be unfair to them or a large proportion. No doubt there were Ukrainians, as there were Latvians and Lithuanians who were as vicious to Jews as the brainwashed young Germans. But, that admitted, it simply didn'f follow that the Ukrainians who joined the Waffen SS Galician Division had anything much in common with Himmler's SS. A learned Australian born Catholic of Ukrainian ancestry tells me that his young father, from what had bedn Hapsburg Galicia, served in the Galician Division in 1945 with the naive hope and expectation, shared by his fellow soldiers that, with Western support, they would be able to March on Moscow and throw off Soviet rule. So different was that division that it's German commanding general arranged for it to have Ukrainian chaplains without letting Himmler or his staff know. My friend was married in Australia by a prìest who had himself served in the Galician division. None of that proves anything much except the need to expect and respect complexity in political and historical explanations.
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  94. ALT RIGHT Ecomonic Policy:0 Asian Legal Immigrants +0 Muzzie Legal Immigrants forever…deport the rest for they are a highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc enthusiastically voting the HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY WORKING CLASS into a violently persecuted racial minority within the borders of America on Nov 3 2020….

    The Antifa’s came to Charlottesville to physically liquidate Richard Spencer and other Alt Right Men…..

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  95. Media had no problem with Obama’s ties with extremist figures like Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright, but the media make a big stink about what David Duke said about Trump… even though Trump never sought out David Duke or any such person.

    Media have been going on and on and on about McCarthyite ‘paranoia’, but now it’s gone totally nuts about ‘Russia hacking’.

    What a world.

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  96. @Ivy Mike
    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn't hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve. And another thing, Lee wasn't all that and a bag of chips, the South never almost won the war and Lee and Davis damn sure lost it when they decided to let Vicksburg fall to Grant. Even if Lee hadn't screwed up Gettysburg and had burned DC like the Brits the South was scraping the bottom of the barrel just to support his barefoot army. Lincoln was the Obama of his time but he eventually got out of the way of his army and the whuppin was on. And don't get so excited about Lee freeing his slaves, his father put it in his will that the slaves would be free the day the estate was profitable. Yes, Lee hated slavery because he hated slaves, they were an inefficient and undisciplined workforce, the opposite of an army. But Lee didn't whip his slaves, no, he paid professionals to do it...

    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn’t hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve.
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    That is an incredibly cogent argument about the assertion of group rights. Especially coming from a baby boomer whose generation has bankrupted the country. Thanks a lot.

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    I must respectfully disagree with you on your statement that the baby boomers bankrupted the country. It was "the greatest generation" that foisted our misguided "civil-rights (for some)" laws on us, destroying true "freedom of association", but only for whites, empowering every non-white radical group, while opening up the spigot to unfettered and unrestricted third-world immigration.
    Let's put the blame where it belongs.
    To those of "the greatest generation"--thanks for NOTHING...
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  97. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    Average Joey in your best ;))

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  98. If Confederate statues must come down because the Confederacy rebelled and fought the National Government, then why do we have statues to Indians? Didn’t Indians fight the ‘progressive’ whites spreading democracy and free enterprise and rule of law throughout the West?

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    We're talking about people who want Nate Forrest's bust removed from UVA, despite the fact that he founded the Klan to defy what he saw as Yankee Occupiers, and disavowed it when it shifted its focus to lynching blacks. His friendly speech to a black group in 1875 was slammed by an organization of cavalry veterans. Dead all these years, and he still can't please anybody!
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  99. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @lavoisier
    But why are the cucked out whites fighting for Jewish supremacism under the guise of being anti-fascist?

    Are they so stupid they don't know their masters?

    Yes. Exactly that.

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  100. Ferguson Effect was just negative.

    But I think Charlottesville Effect is really changing the dynamics.

    The globalists won a Pyrrhic victory in Charlottesville.

    They crushed the Alt Right with use of State terror and Antifa terror.

    But the more people look into this, the more the Glob looks bad.

    I hear Alt Right is being sued. It should use the courtroom to show what really happened.

    And sue the city for everything it got.

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  101. […] and the survival of their families, their communities, and their culture,” says Boyd D. Cathey in The Unz Review. “They have seen the standards, beliefs, traditions, morality and customs that they inherited and […]

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  102. iffen says:
    @Ivy Mike
    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn't hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve. And another thing, Lee wasn't all that and a bag of chips, the South never almost won the war and Lee and Davis damn sure lost it when they decided to let Vicksburg fall to Grant. Even if Lee hadn't screwed up Gettysburg and had burned DC like the Brits the South was scraping the bottom of the barrel just to support his barefoot army. Lincoln was the Obama of his time but he eventually got out of the way of his army and the whuppin was on. And don't get so excited about Lee freeing his slaves, his father put it in his will that the slaves would be free the day the estate was profitable. Yes, Lee hated slavery because he hated slaves, they were an inefficient and undisciplined workforce, the opposite of an army. But Lee didn't whip his slaves, no, he paid professionals to do it...

    their bread buttered on both sides

    What sort of igmos butter both sides of their bread?

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  103. @Jake
    I know that there are actually a few hundred white people in America who share your views, but the odds are that you are a plant by either a group Like the SPLC or ADL or the Federal Government.

    WOW!! I will safely assume you are RCC. I can thus state you are a cuck and the problem. The West will not be able to solve its problems until it deals with the 2 most evil, oxymoronic beliefs: universal brotherhood and universal church. The RCC is the no. 1 proponent of this. The College of Cardinals is now majority black/Asian. The next pope will be non-white. I constantly read that men are more logical then women, but RCC/Zioevangier men become hysterical when I comment that Christianity, the communion wafer does not work for blacks/Asians. I provide concrete examples of countries that prove this: which country is better – RCC Philippines or Shinto/Buddhist Japan? RCC El Salvador or WASP USA? RCC Haiti or Protestant Iceland? Caucasian RCC men will OSCULUM INFAME a black/Asian priests-popes. I can blame the Jews for alot of problems, but the RCC/Zioevangizers cause more problems. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. What destroyed the ancient Egyptians? Miscegenation with blacks. What destroyed the ancient Aryan Indians? Mixing with the Asian aborigines. Caucasians have the highest IQs and are the only ones capable of producing functioning civilizations. Can you not separate biology from beliefs? Can you not deal with the reality that nothing can be done for people with an IQ of 89 or less (most are Asian/black)? Can you not deal with the reality that biology is destiny? Can you not deal with the fact that the communion wafer cannot change a person? Martin Luther was correct in that humans are dung forms and Christianity is only a light snow cover. Can you not deal with the fact that it was the RCC Ted Kennedy along with the Jews who changed the USA’s immigration policy? Can you not deal with the fact that the US bishops are doing whatever they can to get the illegals amnestied? In what world do you live??? But the good news is the RCC is collapsing. The total number of nuns is now more than 50% black/Asian and the orders are dying. The number of priests is down dramatically and the only priests coming down the road are black/Asian affirmative action quotas. The RCC has made it easier for people to be declared saints. More than 95% of RCC saints are Cauasian/European. The RCC now has affirmative action sainthood. I am still a Christian, but the churches have to deal with biological realities. We have reached the end of time. Space colonization will never happen. There are no outer space aliens who will come to save us. You need to face reality and deal with objective truth. Diversity destroys. It has destroyed the RCC.

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  104. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    While JW sounds like a fine fellow, the ignorance he expresses is one reason I’ve lost all hope in anything reasonable taking place.

    Tons of good people still believe idiot propaganda that’s almost a century old.

    FYI, Joe, it is crucial to understand that Hitler was up against some real swine in the form of bankers, corporatists and politicians who supported the Bolshies and the Comintern. Without understanding that basic truth, no one will have a clue, and without a clue the truth cannot prevail. Without the truth, the true believers will be duped repeatedly then kicked into the dust and left to rot.

    Why this isn’t obvious by now to everyone is beyond me, and I’ve frankly given up caring much beyond making comments like this. All I can do at this point is make sure my popcorn supply is intact cuz this is going to get interesting even though I’m confident of the ending. (The idiot classes and eternal enemies will prevail as always.)

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    Anyone who bashes Hitler this late in the game is utterly beyond redemption. Sorry ’bout data!

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    Of course Hitler was not so black as he is painted-- no one could be. And of course communism and international capitalism (which were not as much enemies to each other at that time as one might expect, as you likely know) were real threats. But all the people I respect in the period (which does not include Churchill but does include e.g. Belloc) despised or at least cordially disliked Hitler, even if they praised Mussolini and supported Franco.

    Prior to the war Mussolini seems to have had a worse human-rights record abroad, which is interesting.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Yes. Hitler was neither crazy (he was a risk-taker, perhaps unwisely), nor particularly evil, at least in comparison to the other main players at the time.
    , @joe webb
    speaking of "ignorance," anybody laying claim to being informed on our stuff and who does not understand the meaning of the word 'corporatist', like jack shit here, needs to sent to the showers...football expression.

    Corporatist coming from the Latin, means body, corporeal, Marine Corps, etc.

    jack shit seems to thimk like a leftie, like Michael Moore...its the corporations stupid!. What a semi-idiot. speaking of not knowing jack...

    the core of fascist thinking, I do not say ideology, is that a people is one body, and in our case, one racial body. We have the term, body politic...not bad and you never hear its...too corporatist for the liberals who Believe in Individualism to the exclusion of collectivism of any sort, except to mix all the diverse elements into one big cannibal stew. Then we are one body, a corporate stew of mongrel savagery. Joe W ebb

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  105. Harbinger says:
    @Marshall Lentini

    I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual.
     
    Neither do antifa. Yet you both depend on it.

    How on earth do you presume that I depend on it [state control]? How on earth can you even begin to believe that anarchists depend of state control over them, when they do not espouse it?
    For your information, you may well look up YouTube and watch ‘alt-right’ broadcasts of the ‘anarchist’ ANTIFA up to their antics, but what you obviously fail to see is that not only is the ‘alt-right’ NOT right wing, but ANTIFA are NOT anarchists.

    Here’s a little help on political placing:

    Communism <<- Socialism <<- Liberalism ->> Conservatism ->> Anarchism

    You CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT have left wing anarchy as it’s an oxymoron. In order for the left wing to promote their views, which are pro feminism, pro LGBT, pro anti religion, pro everything not right, they need a mechanism with which to enforce their ‘ideals’ and voila, the state is born. The state then goes about creating legislation with which to force the beliefs of the left upon those who do not want them. If they do not recognize the demands of the left they find themselves out of work, in a court of law and fined/imprisoned.

    On the contrary, the further right one goes, it moves into an anti statist spectrum, from conservatism (conserving one’s culture and traditions) into libertarianism and eventually into anarchy – without rule.

    There is this insane notion that fascism and nazism are right wing. They are not. Fascism is the merger of corporation and the state into an authoritarian system. It is left wing. Nazism, or should I say, national SOCIALISM, is a national control of society by the state. Both fascism and nazism are one and the same – both state control.
    People somehow believe that from conservatism into libertarianism into anarchy, we somehow end up with the state popping up to control everyone.

    What the left hate to admit is that national socialism AND fascism are both left wing, authoritarian ideologies, purely for the sake that the minute you get into any form of control over society, via the state, against the wishes of the individual, to benefit the group, you are moving LEFT of centre, with centre being classic British Liberalism. The further right you move into individuality. The further left you move into the group.

    Is the new world order, that is the creation of a world hive, left wing or right wing, taking into account everything that I’ve written Marshall?
    Please don’t let the highly controlled msm and publishing companies, influence you on their bogus definition of anarchy being left wing or the fake ‘alternative right’ calling ANTIFA out as left wing anarchists. Anarchism IS right wing. It always HAS been right wing, because it puts the life and choices of the individual first. Extreme right wing is NOT white supremacy. It is anarchy, but that stated, there most certainly will be white supremacists and all sorts of peoples who are anarchists, that is if they don’t believe in rulers over people.

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    Great article and enlighfening comments from many and especially you at your age.
    Sir, I've really enjoyed your comments. I didn't expect to read a quote from Spurgeon, here. Very appropriate. I agree with your reasoning.
    Regarding the Goyim and Jewish lies, I first learned that their religious writings and many of their religious scholars consider gentiles less than dogs. It is perfectly acceptable for them to lie and deceive anyone outside their Faith if it a Jew benefits. In fact, I discovered many revelations at radioislam.com. that I never realized, previously, regarding all things jewish.
    Western Civilization is doomed. The U.S. in particular, will have a great fall. No one has guarded the hen house in a long time. I've always pictured the U.S. as "that great harlot, Babylon."
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  106. Cernovich attacks Alt Right

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  107. Ivy Mike says:
    @annamaria
    Another story on the American history: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/08/15/america-propaganda-vanquished-truth/

    "Remember, when Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army, he declined on the grounds that he could not bring war to his own country, by which he meant Virginia.
    Lee’s army was the Army of Northern Virginia.
    As President Lincoln said over and over, the war is not about slavery. It is about “preserving the union,” that is, the empire. ... Lincoln did not free the slaves. Moreover, had Lincoln not been assassinated, his plan was to send the blacks, whom he regarded as inferior to whites, back to Africa. This is not a “conspiracy theory.” It is the documented fact. It is totally impossible to refute this documented fact. ...

    The first slaves were white slaves, but they died like flies from malaria and yellow fevor. Next indigenious Americans (“Indians”) were used as slaves, but they would not work. Then it was discovered that some Africans had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever, and finally a work force was located. The slaves were purchased from the African tribes that annually conducted warfare between themselves, the booty of which was slaves. Socialist historians, such as Karl Polanyi ... wrote detailed and exacting histories of the African slave trade conducted by black Africans. Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, and as every honest historian knows, they were not fighting for slavery. They were fighting, because their country had been invaded. ...

    In Durham, North Carolina, the seat of Duke University, a gang of largely white males destroyed public property by pulling down a statue of a Confederate soldier. Perhaps they took their cue from the neo-Nazis installed in Ukraine by Obama and Hillary following the US-engineered coup that overthrew the elected democratic government. The first thing the new Obama-installed neo-Nazi regime did was to pull down all the Soviet war memorials of the liberation of Ukraine from Nazi Germany. The neo-Nazis who pulled down the war memorials were the descendants of the Ukrainians who fought for Nazi Germany. These neo-Nazis comprise the government of the “democracy” that Obama and Hillary brought to the Ukraine and is the government that the US government and its European vassals support."

    Yeah, good perspective on how our government always ends up on the side of the Nazis, little known by Americans is that by supporting South Korea and South Vietnam we were siding with the politicians who collaborated with the Japanese Fascists who enslaved those countries in WW2.
    Lincoln fought to preserve the Union, no argument, but it was slavery that split the Union. And African slaves weren’t used because they didn’t sicken and die, they were used because they were so cheap before the slave trade was banned that by the time most of that died after 2 years of labor the planter had made a profit and could go down to the corner market and buy some more.

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    Japan never enslaved Vietnam. It was a mandate arrangement, from Vichy. On Sth. Korea, sure, I agree.
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  108. Zumbuddi says:
    @Priss Factor
    Because those with deep wells of identity win over those with shallow puddles, WW-I is about Jewish supremacists wanting deep wells ONLY FOR THEIR OWN TRIBE. Jews want to draw from a deep well that makes them feel connected to Jews since ancient times. Jews want their own kind to think of Jewish history, culture, suffering, survival, and etc. over 1000s of yrs. Jews want their tribesmen all over the world to support Israel. But Jewish power, especially in supremacist mode, won't go very far without the support of the world, especially the White World where most of the talent and wealth is. So, Jews don't want white folks to have deep wells for themselves. If white folks had deep wells of own identity, they would draw water from their own culture, history, ethnos. They would drink water from the wells of their own blood and soil. (This water imagery is important in religion, which is why Catholics got the ritual with wine and crackers. To feel connected with the blood of Jesus, Son of God.) Or, whites will drink 'racist' white milk from the European Holy Cow, a kind of White Hinduism of Cow Worship.

    In the Constellation there is the Big Dipper. There is also the Constellation of Arcas and Callisto.

    http://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/1997/4/27/the-bears-a-greek-myth

    When Hera saw the stars, she was enraged at the honor the God of Heaven had given Callisto and Arcas. She persuaded Poseidon, the God of the Sea, to forbid the Bears to descend into the ocean, as did the other stars. And so it is that Arcas and Callisto, the Great Bear and the Lesser Bear, alone among all constellations never set below the sky's horizon, but remain forever together in the sky.

    Hera and Poseidon conspire to keep Callisto and Arcas thirsty forever.

    And this is also the way of Jewish supremacists. They don't want white people to dig their own deep wells and drink the water of memory that fills them with a sense of identity, history, pride, and justification. They want white folks to remain thirsty.
    Just as British Imperialists had monopolized salt in India and just as Jewish David Sassoon had monopolize opium trade in China(to make Chinese drugged and amnesiac), Jewish Supremacists want monopoly power over the water well. Only Jews may dig to draw from their deep identity. Whites are to be kept thirsty without wells of their own. Whites are only allowed to drink Kosher Water or something like Brawndo. It has 'electrolytes'. This drink makes whites forget or hate their own identity, crazy for homomania as holiest value, Afromania as biggest passion, and Israel-Israel-Israel as their biggest obligation.

    http://www.brawndo.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boy_tLWeqA

    Alt Right came up with a simple idea. They got tired of the globalist snake-oil peddled to them. Alt Right figured White People should dig their own wells for their sense of who they are. And this made Jewish supremacists mad as hell. Doesn't the Alt Right know that only the Jews have the divine right to dig deep wells of identity? Only Jews deserve deep identity, just like only Jews deserve deep state power to control real power in government. They act British Imperialists who say ONLY BRITS have monopoly on the Salt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEfeEzaulc

    Jewish supremacists seek to poison the water well of white identity just like they poison wells in West Bank. Zionists have also stolen the water of Golan Heights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o2aGCdDiFY

    Every Narrative is a well of memory, and Jewish supremacists say all whites must rely on and accept ONLY THE Jewish narrative of white history, identity, culture, and territory. Jewish supremacists say there is no such thing as Swedish culture, Britain is a 'nation of immigrants'(thus belonging to Muslims and Africans), French culture is just 'diversity', and White Americans must only have 'guilt' and 'shame' as their modes of identity. And if they want to feel justified, SUPPORT ISRAEL. If they want to feel uplifted, play around the homo water hydrant and look at homo rainbow created by the mist.

    Alt Right wants its own water wells. It says white people should write their own history, forge their own narrative, and not rely on Jewish or non-white approval or benediction to feel justified as human beings.

    In a way, Alt Right's Pan-Europeanism is both shallower and deeper than traditional ethno-national consciousness in the West. Pan-Europeanism is more generic than distinct ethno-European identities such as Czech, White Russian, Polish, Swedish, Finnish, and etc.
    But it is deeper in this sense: Dig deep enough into all European peoples and they all flow from a common source of blood and memory. Dig deep enough, and they have the same archetypes in their mythic consciousness. So, even as ethno-nationalism has great value, it is time for all Europeans to come together as a people whose blood all flow from the same deep well. Sure, the globalists and Jewish supremacists try to irrigate White/European identity to fool people that Greeks were not 'white' or Medieval history isn't European or whatever. And globalists like Merkel and Macron seek to FLOOD European blood with the sweat and semen of Muslims and Africans. But Pan-Europeans will not be fooled.

    A people without deep identity are doomed. Even among Jews, those who focus mainly on Jewishness will remain and have meaning. But those Jews who mainly fixate on tattoos, green hair, nose rings, pop culture, and 50 gender decadence will have nothing meaning in their lives in yrs to come. That stuff has 'meaning' only to the infantile and childishly excited.

    Alt Right tries to strike a balance between ethno-nationalism and pan-Europeanism. If whites only go for narrow ethno-nationalism, they will be what the Arabs were when Lawrence came upon them: "so long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel."

    On the other hand, if various European groups totally rejected their distinctness, they would just become too bland and confused, and that leads to slackness and weakness. We want Finns and Hungarians and Lithuanians within Pan-Europeanism.

    Well done.
    Fascism was Mussolini’s (Gentile’s) state
    ATTEMPT TO unify the Italian people under a common spiritual vision. No surprise that the need behind antifa came up with that particular meme.
    Reme.ber that pos jew female who made videos of herself shitting? Remember how Abba Eban opened that docu. Heritage of jews? He said “jews don’t have great art or monuments. . .” He’s right. — jews specialize in shitting on other cultures — when they’re not destroying them

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  109. Jim Given says:

    So far the American Cultural Revolution, fully under way, has limited itself to smashing and toppling statues, and destroying monuments to history. But what happens when they come for the books all these Nazis and Neo-Nazis like to read? Books from Huckleberry Finn to Gone With the Wind to the Sound and the Fury must all be banned and burned – they talk about a past that includes racism, thus they are racist.

    How convenient that Hate Speech Laws, like those that ended the status of European countries as open societies, are on their way to America! Hate-speech texts – books that Our Rulers hate – from Holocaust denial (and global warming denial?) to criticism of Israel will be excluded from the public square, if not from our living rooms!

    An important book to burn is Ray Bradbury’s 1952 dystopian novel Fahrenheir 451, about a future savage, chaotic America in which fireman burn libraries and book collections. There, the fire chief explains to our protagonist Guy Montag just why books were made illegal. His words, written 65 years ago, sound exactly like present news stories about eliminating all books that offend someone.

    Have we switched places with the Soviet Union? Stalin would have applauded the ongoing erasure of history (And who hated Hitler more than Stalin did?)

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    IDK when they'll go after books (or if they'll even bother) but they're already attacking the internet. YouTube demonetizing is just the beginning salvo.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Stalin at least routed the forces who would have destroyed Russian, indeed Western, culture and civilization. In America those forces are fully in charge.
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  110. David Duke’s version of events.

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  111. @Priss Factor
    Because those with deep wells of identity win over those with shallow puddles, WW-I is about Jewish supremacists wanting deep wells ONLY FOR THEIR OWN TRIBE. Jews want to draw from a deep well that makes them feel connected to Jews since ancient times. Jews want their own kind to think of Jewish history, culture, suffering, survival, and etc. over 1000s of yrs. Jews want their tribesmen all over the world to support Israel. But Jewish power, especially in supremacist mode, won't go very far without the support of the world, especially the White World where most of the talent and wealth is. So, Jews don't want white folks to have deep wells for themselves. If white folks had deep wells of own identity, they would draw water from their own culture, history, ethnos. They would drink water from the wells of their own blood and soil. (This water imagery is important in religion, which is why Catholics got the ritual with wine and crackers. To feel connected with the blood of Jesus, Son of God.) Or, whites will drink 'racist' white milk from the European Holy Cow, a kind of White Hinduism of Cow Worship.

    In the Constellation there is the Big Dipper. There is also the Constellation of Arcas and Callisto.

    http://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/1997/4/27/the-bears-a-greek-myth

    When Hera saw the stars, she was enraged at the honor the God of Heaven had given Callisto and Arcas. She persuaded Poseidon, the God of the Sea, to forbid the Bears to descend into the ocean, as did the other stars. And so it is that Arcas and Callisto, the Great Bear and the Lesser Bear, alone among all constellations never set below the sky's horizon, but remain forever together in the sky.

    Hera and Poseidon conspire to keep Callisto and Arcas thirsty forever.

    And this is also the way of Jewish supremacists. They don't want white people to dig their own deep wells and drink the water of memory that fills them with a sense of identity, history, pride, and justification. They want white folks to remain thirsty.
    Just as British Imperialists had monopolized salt in India and just as Jewish David Sassoon had monopolize opium trade in China(to make Chinese drugged and amnesiac), Jewish Supremacists want monopoly power over the water well. Only Jews may dig to draw from their deep identity. Whites are to be kept thirsty without wells of their own. Whites are only allowed to drink Kosher Water or something like Brawndo. It has 'electrolytes'. This drink makes whites forget or hate their own identity, crazy for homomania as holiest value, Afromania as biggest passion, and Israel-Israel-Israel as their biggest obligation.

    http://www.brawndo.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boy_tLWeqA

    Alt Right came up with a simple idea. They got tired of the globalist snake-oil peddled to them. Alt Right figured White People should dig their own wells for their sense of who they are. And this made Jewish supremacists mad as hell. Doesn't the Alt Right know that only the Jews have the divine right to dig deep wells of identity? Only Jews deserve deep identity, just like only Jews deserve deep state power to control real power in government. They act British Imperialists who say ONLY BRITS have monopoly on the Salt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEfeEzaulc

    Jewish supremacists seek to poison the water well of white identity just like they poison wells in West Bank. Zionists have also stolen the water of Golan Heights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o2aGCdDiFY

    Every Narrative is a well of memory, and Jewish supremacists say all whites must rely on and accept ONLY THE Jewish narrative of white history, identity, culture, and territory. Jewish supremacists say there is no such thing as Swedish culture, Britain is a 'nation of immigrants'(thus belonging to Muslims and Africans), French culture is just 'diversity', and White Americans must only have 'guilt' and 'shame' as their modes of identity. And if they want to feel justified, SUPPORT ISRAEL. If they want to feel uplifted, play around the homo water hydrant and look at homo rainbow created by the mist.

    Alt Right wants its own water wells. It says white people should write their own history, forge their own narrative, and not rely on Jewish or non-white approval or benediction to feel justified as human beings.

    In a way, Alt Right's Pan-Europeanism is both shallower and deeper than traditional ethno-national consciousness in the West. Pan-Europeanism is more generic than distinct ethno-European identities such as Czech, White Russian, Polish, Swedish, Finnish, and etc.
    But it is deeper in this sense: Dig deep enough into all European peoples and they all flow from a common source of blood and memory. Dig deep enough, and they have the same archetypes in their mythic consciousness. So, even as ethno-nationalism has great value, it is time for all Europeans to come together as a people whose blood all flow from the same deep well. Sure, the globalists and Jewish supremacists try to irrigate White/European identity to fool people that Greeks were not 'white' or Medieval history isn't European or whatever. And globalists like Merkel and Macron seek to FLOOD European blood with the sweat and semen of Muslims and Africans. But Pan-Europeans will not be fooled.

    A people without deep identity are doomed. Even among Jews, those who focus mainly on Jewishness will remain and have meaning. But those Jews who mainly fixate on tattoos, green hair, nose rings, pop culture, and 50 gender decadence will have nothing meaning in their lives in yrs to come. That stuff has 'meaning' only to the infantile and childishly excited.

    Alt Right tries to strike a balance between ethno-nationalism and pan-Europeanism. If whites only go for narrow ethno-nationalism, they will be what the Arabs were when Lawrence came upon them: "so long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel."

    On the other hand, if various European groups totally rejected their distinctness, they would just become too bland and confused, and that leads to slackness and weakness. We want Finns and Hungarians and Lithuanians within Pan-Europeanism.

    Thank you, Priss, for your exceptional insights. Your comments are always interesting, and sometimes brilliant.

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  112. Che Guava says:
    @Priss Factor
    WW-I or World War Identity is like a war for water-wells.

    Remember the scene in LAWRENCE OF ARABIA where Arabs fight over water well and who may carry the water.

    https://youtu.be/ud1zpHW3ito?t=55s

    Ground is dry but deep down, there is water to keep people and animals alive, to make things grow.

    Identity is the same way. Deeper you dig, more water you find.

    WW-I is about deep wells vs shallow puddles. The Right is about deep wells of identity. The 'Left' is about shallow puddles of makeshift splashing around. Like kids playing with water hydrants in crowded cities.

    True German-ness is a deep well. It has real history, ethnicity, memory, and territory. Same goes for true Chineseness. Or Jewishness. Jewishness is a very deep identity with ancient roots, bloodlines, culture, sense of tribe, shared triumphs and tragedies, loyalties of family and kin.

    In contrast, most of 'Leftist' identity is shallow and fleeting, especially with rise of 'gender politics'. It can be very excitable, noisy, and violent, but it's like kids in batman costumes throwing tantrums because they want to play some more! It's like some guy Meso-American guy calling himself 'they'.

    http://dennismichaellynch.com/berkeley-killer-wants-referred/

    Or, it's about Bruce Jenner who decided he is 'woman of the year'. Or, it's about primarily identifying with some subculture like video game community, grunge community, etc. It's about defining oneself by number of tattoos or piercings. It's about worship of the homo-rainbow. Homos have been around forever but their identity cannot be deep because homos are more like mushrooms than trees. A tree is one whole unit from roots to the top. Homos, in contrast, pop up randomly(and most robustly around dead trees). A Jew can trace his Jewishness back many many many generations. But homos cannot. Most homos are children of straight parents, and even if homos decide to have kids, chances are the kids will be straight. So, there is no 'line of my people' among homos.

    Another 'Leftist' identity is grievance and victimhood, but this is problematic because it assumes a people have a meaningful identity ONLY AS victims. Using this logic, those who win have no right of identity. Only losers deserve identity. This is why Jews, even as new winners, cling to victim mentality. But this is partly ingrained in Christian moral view as well, one that says 'meek shall inherit the earth'. (Geeks seem to be doing it, though.) Feminism defines female identity only in terms of victimhood and resistance in the form of 'empowerment'. So, without the element of hatred for the 'oppressor', feminist identity has no meaning.
    Or, among libertarians, the only identity that matters is the 'individual'. The most radical version of this is Ayn-Randism. But the problem is most individuals are just ordinary people. They are not Howard Roarks or even Keatings or Tooheys. They are just 'nobodies' as Biff reminds his father in DEATH OF A SALESMAN. So, libertarianism is fun ONLY IF you can rise high and become some super-person. For the hoi polloi, libertarianism just means hedonism or some generic commitment to liberty under the law. Not a bad thing but hardly deep in meaning.

    The most substantive Leftist identity so far has been the Worker. This was compelling because class is indeed important and, in 19th century and much of 20th century, huge swaths of working class folks found themselves to have collective interests against the Owner Class.
    But alas, even Class Identity didn't turn out to be resilient. As economy changed, working class lost out to white collar class. And as technology changed, many once class-bound jobs were wiped out.
    Also, in modern societies, there was too much social mobility. For class identity to be truly strong and deep, it has to be caste identities that locks people into certain duties and roles. But such was not the case in the modern world. The fall of communism shows the limits of Leftist identity. Some might say the Fall of Nazism has discredited national or ethnic identities, but I disagree. After all, Nazism didn't fail because it guarded and promoted German identity and culture. It failed because it abused, violated, and trampled on the national identities and interests of OTHER peoples. Russians fought mainly for the Motherland and Survival as Race. Stalin appealed to patriotism and nationalism above all else in the war against Nazi imperialism. And it was Chinese nationalism that united KMT and communists in the war against Japan.

    In contrast to Leftist and post-leftist identities that are now shallow puddles --- making loud splashes but utterly devoid of depth and meaning --- , there is the Rightist identity of blood, history, memory, and territory. Blood and Soil, Mind and Memory. Jews themselves figured this out. Many had tried anarchism, Marxism, Leninism, syndicalism, and many other ideologies. In the end, all passed with the winds of fashion. At the end of the day, the only meaningful identity was Jewishness. It's like Jewish French Maoists later became Zionists.
    Now, ideologies have values as carriers of ideas, but a set of ideas cannot be the core IDENTITY of a person. This is true both personally and collectively. An individual who defines himself ONLY in terms of his ideas & conceits and ignores his parents, ancestors, tribe, kin, culture, and history of his people is a shallow person.

    In the end, those with deep identities win over those with shallow identities. It's like trees with deeper roots withstand the elements better than trees with shallow roots do. It's like those with deeper wells can survive a drought better than those with only puddles or very shallow wells. (The only universal creed with deep well may be Christianity and Islam. Their profundity ensures this, as conveyed in the final scene of SILENCE by Martin Scorsese: How the man never gave up faith in Christ even in a strange pagan land. Even so, as Christianity becomes more 'inclusive' and conversionary and even caving to homomania, who knows its future?)

    Chinese nationalim that united KMT and communists

    The communists didn’t do much until Japan’s China adventture was over, and the Red Army had secured them a nice base in Manchuria. ‘United’ never applied.

    They spent more time fighting the KMT than the Kwantung and Imperial Armies, with very limited exceptions. Plus the patchwork of warlords and the two Japanese satellite states further complicated things.

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  113. Che Guava says:
    @Ivy Mike
    Yeah, good perspective on how our government always ends up on the side of the Nazis, little known by Americans is that by supporting South Korea and South Vietnam we were siding with the politicians who collaborated with the Japanese Fascists who enslaved those countries in WW2.
    Lincoln fought to preserve the Union, no argument, but it was slavery that split the Union. And African slaves weren't used because they didn't sicken and die, they were used because they were so cheap before the slave trade was banned that by the time most of that died after 2 years of labor the planter had made a profit and could go down to the corner market and buy some more.

    Japan never enslaved Vietnam. It was a mandate arrangement, from Vichy. On Sth. Korea, sure, I agree.

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  114. joe webb says:

    I just viewed a little bit of David Duke, I think on twitter….not good at computer skills. David looks like a beautiful girl…he must have been losing weight for some reason. His vanity is often referenced. I hear rumor that he has had a face lift or two. Soon one for Spencer too, or butt lift for his butt-buddies.

    He talks directly to Donald Trump, as if Trump were tuned in. This is remarkable. Is Duke delusional, and does he believe that he is having a kind of communication with him, or Him?”

    Duke also claimed that he had invented the phrase, make america great again. Let’s say he did for discussion’s sake. Does he want a thank you from Trump?.
    jack shit….

    Low talk for some low character. anybody who knows anything about HItler…he’d have sent them to the Russian front pdq.

    jack shit, actually knows jack shit and has no argument.. Hitler lost the War. Remember? Hitler never stepped out of Germany, never had much of an idea of the US, never, never….and while he had some great talents, he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Hitler & company today….the single largest deficit of WN. The second biggest deficit of WN is that of any marginalized group or person…psychological distress and difficulty of maintaining a Normal state of mind.

    Reading The Odyssey, Homer. The gods tell Ulysses that they are not going to make it easy for him…it is going to be 19 years to get home…with a fair amount of suffering. Wanna be a hero? You don’t get to feel great much of the time, actually most of the time. Family is first, then comrades.

    Spencer and Duke get to see their name in jewprint. shucks, jews and our other enemies don’t even have to pay them….it is their egos, which would be ok more or less if Our People were praising them, but it is our Enemies who spell their names right. Disgusting. Any Greek would make short work of them.

    So let me make it perfectly clear…a long 19 year stretch , poetically understood. A lot of us killed, a lot of us unsung, but as Homer reminds…it is your families and friends and comrades.

    Huah! Joe Webb

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    he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Not to mention that he was, more than any other person, responsible for the founding of Israel.
    , @Randal

    Hitler never stepped out of Germany
     
    Apart from his military service in Belgium and France, where he served his country with honour, was wounded in battle and was decorated for bravery.

    One of the problems with demonization is that it is fundamentally dishonest. There are no demons, only human beings, and there are few human beings without any redeeming features (and they rarely if ever rise to high political positions or stay there long if inheriting power).

    (In reality, of course, far from "never stepping out of Germany", he was Austrian and lived in Vienna.)

    , @RobinG
    Hey Joe, you never know -

    Today Trump said he's been studying on C'ville and violence was by both sides. So maybe he did catch a David Duke video. You are right that this was a major PR blunder by the WN, but if they make a court case against C'ville, the State Troopers, and the Gov., they should win.

    How come Code Pink, et al, can sit down or chain themselves to the WH fence or disrupt Congress and get considerately arrested, but Unite the Right was kicked and pushed into the AntiFa crowd?! I've never seen Richard Spencer before, but he doesn't come off too bad in this video -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSOoh_bbvwU
    What Really Happened in Charlottesville
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  115. RobinG says:
    @Jim Given
    So far the American Cultural Revolution, fully under way, has limited itself to smashing and toppling statues, and destroying monuments to history. But what happens when they come for the books all these Nazis and Neo-Nazis like to read? Books from Huckleberry Finn to Gone With the Wind to the Sound and the Fury must all be banned and burned - they talk about a past that includes racism, thus they are racist.

    How convenient that Hate Speech Laws, like those that ended the status of European countries as open societies, are on their way to America! Hate-speech texts - books that Our Rulers hate - from Holocaust denial (and global warming denial?) to criticism of Israel will be excluded from the public square, if not from our living rooms!

    An important book to burn is Ray Bradbury's 1952 dystopian novel Fahrenheir 451, about a future savage, chaotic America in which fireman burn libraries and book collections. There, the fire chief explains to our protagonist Guy Montag just why books were made illegal. His words, written 65 years ago, sound exactly like present news stories about eliminating all books that offend someone.

    Have we switched places with the Soviet Union? Stalin would have applauded the ongoing erasure of history (And who hated Hitler more than Stalin did?)

    IDK when they’ll go after books (or if they’ll even bother) but they’re already attacking the internet. YouTube demonetizing is just the beginning salvo.

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  116. denk says:

    Looks like The empire of chaos wants to apply the same M.O. at home,
    Divide and conquer.

    https://sputniknews.com/us/201708161056494381-charlottesville-cops-let-violence-happen/

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  117. @yeah
    Very balanced and well-argued post, thank you. You have taken no sides and have been impartial to both sides. Unfortunately, in today's anti-Trump hysteria being raised by the corrupt, lying media that caters only to the so-called "progressives" (privileged and hypocritical elites, most of them) truth has become a casualty. It is most unfortunate that this incident took place, but it is equally unfortunate that acts of violence on the part of the so-called left are glossed over and suppressed by the partisan media. What is the way ahead? Unless that is honestly considered, with considerable reasonableness and goodwill on both sides, America could end up sleep-walking towards civil breakdown and chaos. Let us not wish for that, for in that case all will be losers.

    ” goodwill on both sides”

    Yeah sure : goodwill coming from the leftists.

    The leftists, will never resort to “goodwill” or fairplay, period, and the sooner this is finally realized the better.

    Just which alternate universe are you posting from, surely not from the one in which we are located, and in which leftists comprise of the most underhanded, dissolute, dirty-trick playing scumbags, walking around on this insane planet.

    There is only one solution/resolution to the pandemonia which is now just revving up : Defeat them or be defeated, and liquidated.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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  118. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jacques sheete

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.
     
    While JW sounds like a fine fellow, the ignorance he expresses is one reason I've lost all hope in anything reasonable taking place.

    Tons of good people still believe idiot propaganda that's almost a century old.

    FYI, Joe, it is crucial to understand that Hitler was up against some real swine in the form of bankers, corporatists and politicians who supported the Bolshies and the Comintern. Without understanding that basic truth, no one will have a clue, and without a clue the truth cannot prevail. Without the truth, the true believers will be duped repeatedly then kicked into the dust and left to rot.

    Why this isn't obvious by now to everyone is beyond me, and I've frankly given up caring much beyond making comments like this. All I can do at this point is make sure my popcorn supply is intact cuz this is going to get interesting even though I'm confident of the ending. (The idiot classes and eternal enemies will prevail as always.)

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Anyone who bashes Hitler this late in the game is utterly beyond redemption. Sorry 'bout data!

    Of course Hitler was not so black as he is painted– no one could be. And of course communism and international capitalism (which were not as much enemies to each other at that time as one might expect, as you likely know) were real threats. But all the people I respect in the period (which does not include Churchill but does include e.g. Belloc) despised or at least cordially disliked Hitler, even if they praised Mussolini and supported Franco.

    Prior to the war Mussolini seems to have had a worse human-rights record abroad, which is interesting.

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  119. iffen says:
    @Randal
    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    A gold nugget of insight!

    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state’s police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor’s abuse of police power in the 60′s?

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    I'm not familiar enough with the history of 1960s US local politics to be too dogmatic on it, but there is a clear and obvious parallel between the deliberate withholding of police protection for political reasons then and at Charlottesville, if the superficial knowledge of those historical events is correct. It's another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Then again, no superficial understanding based upon received opinion about any aspect of US history relating to race relations can be taken on trust, given the established tendency of the anti-white left to distort and rewrite history in its own favour. See, for instance, Mr Unz's own piece:

    American Pravda: The KKK and Mass Racial Killings
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  120. @jacques sheete

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.
     
    While JW sounds like a fine fellow, the ignorance he expresses is one reason I've lost all hope in anything reasonable taking place.

    Tons of good people still believe idiot propaganda that's almost a century old.

    FYI, Joe, it is crucial to understand that Hitler was up against some real swine in the form of bankers, corporatists and politicians who supported the Bolshies and the Comintern. Without understanding that basic truth, no one will have a clue, and without a clue the truth cannot prevail. Without the truth, the true believers will be duped repeatedly then kicked into the dust and left to rot.

    Why this isn't obvious by now to everyone is beyond me, and I've frankly given up caring much beyond making comments like this. All I can do at this point is make sure my popcorn supply is intact cuz this is going to get interesting even though I'm confident of the ending. (The idiot classes and eternal enemies will prevail as always.)

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Anyone who bashes Hitler this late in the game is utterly beyond redemption. Sorry 'bout data!

    Yes. Hitler was neither crazy (he was a risk-taker, perhaps unwisely), nor particularly evil, at least in comparison to the other main players at the time.

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    Hitler was not "crazy" as such. I saw one of Hitler's doctors say on a A&E documentary, "He wasn't normal, but Hitler was not Mad."

    A military historian who specializes on the German WW II military felt a primary Hitler trait was "willful stupidity."
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  121. @Jim Given
    So far the American Cultural Revolution, fully under way, has limited itself to smashing and toppling statues, and destroying monuments to history. But what happens when they come for the books all these Nazis and Neo-Nazis like to read? Books from Huckleberry Finn to Gone With the Wind to the Sound and the Fury must all be banned and burned - they talk about a past that includes racism, thus they are racist.

    How convenient that Hate Speech Laws, like those that ended the status of European countries as open societies, are on their way to America! Hate-speech texts - books that Our Rulers hate - from Holocaust denial (and global warming denial?) to criticism of Israel will be excluded from the public square, if not from our living rooms!

    An important book to burn is Ray Bradbury's 1952 dystopian novel Fahrenheir 451, about a future savage, chaotic America in which fireman burn libraries and book collections. There, the fire chief explains to our protagonist Guy Montag just why books were made illegal. His words, written 65 years ago, sound exactly like present news stories about eliminating all books that offend someone.

    Have we switched places with the Soviet Union? Stalin would have applauded the ongoing erasure of history (And who hated Hitler more than Stalin did?)

    Stalin at least routed the forces who would have destroyed Russian, indeed Western, culture and civilization. In America those forces are fully in charge.

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    I could not agree more.

    You're talking about the Nazis, right?
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  122. @Ivy Mike
    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn't hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve. And another thing, Lee wasn't all that and a bag of chips, the South never almost won the war and Lee and Davis damn sure lost it when they decided to let Vicksburg fall to Grant. Even if Lee hadn't screwed up Gettysburg and had burned DC like the Brits the South was scraping the bottom of the barrel just to support his barefoot army. Lincoln was the Obama of his time but he eventually got out of the way of his army and the whuppin was on. And don't get so excited about Lee freeing his slaves, his father put it in his will that the slaves would be free the day the estate was profitable. Yes, Lee hated slavery because he hated slaves, they were an inefficient and undisciplined workforce, the opposite of an army. But Lee didn't whip his slaves, no, he paid professionals to do it...

    “Hello fellow working class Southerners……”

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  123. iffen says:
    @joe webb
    I just viewed a little bit of David Duke, I think on twitter....not good at computer skills. David looks like a beautiful girl...he must have been losing weight for some reason. His vanity is often referenced. I hear rumor that he has had a face lift or two. Soon one for Spencer too, or butt lift for his butt-buddies.

    He talks directly to Donald Trump, as if Trump were tuned in. This is remarkable. Is Duke delusional, and does he believe that he is having a kind of communication with him, or Him?''

    Duke also claimed that he had invented the phrase, make america great again. Let's say he did for discussion's sake. Does he want a thank you from Trump?.
    jack shit....

    Low talk for some low character. anybody who knows anything about HItler...he'd have sent them to the Russian front pdq.

    jack shit, actually knows jack shit and has no argument.. Hitler lost the War. Remember? Hitler never stepped out of Germany, never had much of an idea of the US, never, never....and while he had some great talents, he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Hitler & company today....the single largest deficit of WN. The second biggest deficit of WN is that of any marginalized group or person...psychological distress and difficulty of maintaining a Normal state of mind.

    Reading The Odyssey, Homer. The gods tell Ulysses that they are not going to make it easy for him...it is going to be 19 years to get home...with a fair amount of suffering. Wanna be a hero? You don't get to feel great much of the time, actually most of the time. Family is first, then comrades.

    Spencer and Duke get to see their name in jewprint. shucks, jews and our other enemies don't even have to pay them....it is their egos, which would be ok more or less if Our People were praising them, but it is our Enemies who spell their names right. Disgusting. Any Greek would make short work of them.

    So let me make it perfectly clear...a long 19 year stretch , poetically understood. A lot of us killed, a lot of us unsung, but as Homer reminds...it is your families and friends and comrades.

    Huah! Joe Webb

    he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Not to mention that he was, more than any other person, responsible for the founding of Israel.

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  124. anarchyst says:
    @attilathehen
    You're part of the problem. I asked you in another comment for another article if you accepted black/Asian priests-popes (you stated you were RCC). You never answered me. I left the RCC because I don't accept black/Asian priests-popes. Cuck poop Frannie is the one behind the black/Asian/Muslim invasion of Europe. If anyone protests, he says they are not "Christian."
    The RCC is a homosexual/Freemasonic/multi-culti grand lodge. I follow the news for the archdioceses of New York and Chicago. Homos have taken over. The Zioevangizers are the next problem. Russell Moore the Southern Baptist Convention president condemned the racism of the marchers. This cuck approved a motion to criticize the alt- right a couple of months ago. The Jews are a problem, but RCC/Zioevangizer cucks are worse. Along with criticizing the Jews, the RCC/Zioevangizers need to be criticized. Then you will see a dramatic shift in the movement.

    People need to keep boycotting/attending anything that promotes "universal church" or "universal brotherhood" nonsense. Any group with homos needs to expel the homos.

    Fortunately, many people are beginning to act and things are starting to happen. Hollywood movie revenues are collapsing. The RCC is closing many churches in the USA. It's the white Christian cucks that are the problem. They will not defend the West. RCC cucks like Robert Royal, Selwyn Duke, Charles Colombe, Robert P. George, Ross Douthat are fervently praying the rosary and hoping the Zioevangizers are right about the rapture. Douthat wrote an article for the New York Times stating Europe must accept a negro future. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/07/the-west-and-what-comes-after/


    Original sin is being born with a low IQ. Asians/blacks have the lowest IQs.

    I agree with you that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church HAS been compromised by outsiders–jews and protestants, BUT the traditional Catholic Church STILL exists with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) that has rejected ALL of the 1960s “modernisms” that the Church was subject to. From recognizing jewish responsibility for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, to rejection of the “modern Mass”, and the jewification and protestantization of Catholic doctrine, traditional Catholics DO have an outlet…
    I have no problem with the “universality” of the Catholic Church, as long as congregations of the various ethnic groups are permitted to establish their own Catholic communities, not unlike the situation in the early 20th century, in which various ethnic groups raised funds and built their own churches and congregations.
    As to the homosexual takeover of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church, that was engineered by bishops and priests of the “lavender lobby” which co-opted the seminary system, keeping out good (heterosexual) candidates for the priesthood while paving the way for their homosexual “buddies” to have access to a horribly perverted homosexual cabal within the Church. The mistake was accepting homosexual candidates for the priesthood merely by exacting a “promise” from them not to act on their homosexual tendencies. We know how well THAT worked out…
    The traditional pre-Vatican II Catholic Church, warts and all, STILL has validity in today’s world.

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    Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Kazakhstan has publicly stated more than once that today's crisis in the Church is similar to the Arian Heresy. Personally, I think it's worse. But as in the 4th century the Church will recover and the Modernists now in control will be in history's dustbin.
    , @attilathehen
    So you agree with me on racial/ethnic churches. OK. But there is only ONE RCC POPE. Would you accept a black/Asian pope?
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  125. Avery says:
    @Anonymous
    You can see the video here: https://storify.com/Cedarwooded/evidence-driver-was-innocent

    The link says: “evidence driver was innocent”

    Well, I don’t see _any_ evidence he is innocent.
    Quite the contrary.

    Vids are short, and not very clear but I looked at the one above tweet 2:11pm-Aug 13, 2017. It’s 4 seconds.

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something. Then a guy on the left steps down the sidewalk and throws a white object which impacts the bumper.

    But the Dodge was clearly driving towards the crowds to start with, _before_ the guy threw the white object at the bumper.
    There were no people around the Dodge at the start of the vid: so he wasn’t running away from anything at that point.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.

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    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.
     
    No, it's way too soon to jump to those kinds of conclusions.

    There's a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life and the death was caused unintentionally whilst he was trying to get away. IE that he was not a psychotic, politically motivated murderer at all, as he was immediately and dishonestly assumed to have been (for entirely politically self-serving reasons) by the usual suspects.

    Only a proper police investigation and a trial can determine the truth of that (although whether he has much chance of fair treatment remains to be seen). Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty, and the circumstances do not allow for a straightforward presumption of guilt even in moral terms.

    , @Anonymous

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something.
     
    Are you serious? He was driving slowly - until the guy on the left hit his car (not a thrown object) - after which you hear the engine roar and screaming.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?
     
    Trying to get to the other side? Reversing from that crowd had its own risks. Why the heck did the mayor (former member of Obama's State Department) leave the streets open and let the "antifa" roam free?

    this nut
     

    this psycho
     
    Let's not jump to conclusions. There's a possibility he panicked when the car got hit. Before that moment, he certainly didn't behave like a "nut".
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  126. anarchyst says:
    @epochehusserl
    I am a 63 year old white blue collar working man with deep Texas roots and so far as I can tell all this talk about about the loss and repression the white man and his apple pie culture is suffering from the progressive left is a bunch of horse hockey. Bunch a people pissed off cause the world didn’t hand them their bread buttered on both sides like they think they deserve.
    -------------------------
    That is an incredibly cogent argument about the assertion of group rights. Especially coming from a baby boomer whose generation has bankrupted the country. Thanks a lot.

    I must respectfully disagree with you on your statement that the baby boomers bankrupted the country. It was “the greatest generation” that foisted our misguided “civil-rights (for some)” laws on us, destroying true “freedom of association”, but only for whites, empowering every non-white radical group, while opening up the spigot to unfettered and unrestricted third-world immigration.
    Let’s put the blame where it belongs.
    To those of “the greatest generation”–thanks for NOTHING…

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  127. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Stalin at least routed the forces who would have destroyed Russian, indeed Western, culture and civilization. In America those forces are fully in charge.

    I could not agree more.

    You’re talking about the Nazis, right?

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    I think he means another group:
    http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/fpyockey/prague.html

    WHAT IS BEHIND THE HANGING OF THE ELEVEN JEWS IN PRAGUE ?
    by Francis P. Yockey

    Published in December 1952

    On Friday, November 27, there burst upon the world an event which though small in itself, will have gigantic repercussions in the happenings to come. It will have these repercussions because it will force a political reorientation in the minds of the European elite.

    That event was the conclusion of the treason trial of the Jews in Prague, and their condemnation to death. During the years 1945 and 1946 the coalition Jewry-Washington-Moscow functioned quite perfectly and frictionlessly. When the Israel "State" was established as the result of armed Jewish aggression, the entire world, dominated by Moscow and Washington, sang hymns of praise and congratulation. Washington recognized the new "State" de facto within a few hours of its proclaimed existence. Moscow outbid Washington in pro-Jewishness by giving de jure recognition. Both Washington and Moscow vied with one another in seeking to please the Israel operetta-state and aided it by all means moral and material. Russian diplomats boasted that at last, in Haifa, they had a warm-water port.

    And now, after a few short years, Israel is recalling its "ambassadors" from Russian vassal-states, and intensifying its anti-Russian policy from its American citadel. Volatile Jews in Israel and America cry out that Stalin is following in the footsteps of Hitler. The entire American press boils with fury at anti-semitism in Russia. Anti-semitism, warns the New York Times, is the one thing America will not tolerate in the world.
     
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  128. Randal says:
    @iffen
    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    A gold nugget of insight!

    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state's police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor's abuse of police power in the 60's?

    I’m not familiar enough with the history of 1960s US local politics to be too dogmatic on it, but there is a clear and obvious parallel between the deliberate withholding of police protection for political reasons then and at Charlottesville, if the superficial knowledge of those historical events is correct. It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Then again, no superficial understanding based upon received opinion about any aspect of US history relating to race relations can be taken on trust, given the established tendency of the anti-white left to distort and rewrite history in its own favour. See, for instance, Mr Unz’s own piece:

    American Pravda: The KKK and Mass Racial Killings

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    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy

    I assume leftist hypocrisy until proven otherwise; I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.
    , @iffen
    No matter how good you are at talking the talk (and you are very good) walking the walk is different.
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  129. Randal says:
    @Avery
    The link says: "evidence driver was innocent"

    Well, I don't see _any_ evidence he is innocent.
    Quite the contrary.

    Vids are short, and not very clear but I looked at the one above tweet 2:11pm-Aug 13, 2017. It's 4 seconds.

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something. Then a guy on the left steps down the sidewalk and throws a white object which impacts the bumper.

    But the Dodge was clearly driving towards the crowds to start with, _before_ the guy threw the white object at the bumper.
    There were no people around the Dodge at the start of the vid: so he wasn't running away from anything at that point.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.

    No, it’s way too soon to jump to those kinds of conclusions.

    There’s a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life and the death was caused unintentionally whilst he was trying to get away. IE that he was not a psychotic, politically motivated murderer at all, as he was immediately and dishonestly assumed to have been (for entirely politically self-serving reasons) by the usual suspects.

    Only a proper police investigation and a trial can determine the truth of that (although whether he has much chance of fair treatment remains to be seen). Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty, and the circumstances do not allow for a straightforward presumption of guilt even in moral terms.

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    {There’s a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life.......}

    Based on what evidence?


    {Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty,.....}

    Indeed: ultimately a Court of Law will decide whether he is guilty, not-guilty, not-guilty for reason of insanity, etc.

    But we are not the court of law here: just a place to exchange opinions and ideas.
    Rules of evidence and such are obviously quite different than in a court.

    Somebody posted a link to a 4 second vid with the claim that it proves - 'evidence' - the driver's innocence, with "?".
    Yeah, it is not all the evidence, but based on that 4 second clip, it is pretty clear to me he was driving right into the crowds _before_ that man threw something at his bumper.

    Do you see something in that 4-second clip that is 'evidence' of him fearing for his life?
    I don't.
    I see evidence that visibility is excellent: I can clearly see the crowds of people at the end of the alleyway even in that low res, small screen video.
    I see evidence that the end of the alley is jam packed with people.
    I see evidence that there are no people other than a a few on the sidewalks when he is driving towards the crowds. .
    I don't see evidence of him making any attempt to stop, assuming he saw the people too late or something.

    What do you see?

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  130. Randal says:
    @joe webb
    I just viewed a little bit of David Duke, I think on twitter....not good at computer skills. David looks like a beautiful girl...he must have been losing weight for some reason. His vanity is often referenced. I hear rumor that he has had a face lift or two. Soon one for Spencer too, or butt lift for his butt-buddies.

    He talks directly to Donald Trump, as if Trump were tuned in. This is remarkable. Is Duke delusional, and does he believe that he is having a kind of communication with him, or Him?''

    Duke also claimed that he had invented the phrase, make america great again. Let's say he did for discussion's sake. Does he want a thank you from Trump?.
    jack shit....

    Low talk for some low character. anybody who knows anything about HItler...he'd have sent them to the Russian front pdq.

    jack shit, actually knows jack shit and has no argument.. Hitler lost the War. Remember? Hitler never stepped out of Germany, never had much of an idea of the US, never, never....and while he had some great talents, he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Hitler & company today....the single largest deficit of WN. The second biggest deficit of WN is that of any marginalized group or person...psychological distress and difficulty of maintaining a Normal state of mind.

    Reading The Odyssey, Homer. The gods tell Ulysses that they are not going to make it easy for him...it is going to be 19 years to get home...with a fair amount of suffering. Wanna be a hero? You don't get to feel great much of the time, actually most of the time. Family is first, then comrades.

    Spencer and Duke get to see their name in jewprint. shucks, jews and our other enemies don't even have to pay them....it is their egos, which would be ok more or less if Our People were praising them, but it is our Enemies who spell their names right. Disgusting. Any Greek would make short work of them.

    So let me make it perfectly clear...a long 19 year stretch , poetically understood. A lot of us killed, a lot of us unsung, but as Homer reminds...it is your families and friends and comrades.

    Huah! Joe Webb

    Hitler never stepped out of Germany

    Apart from his military service in Belgium and France, where he served his country with honour, was wounded in battle and was decorated for bravery.

    One of the problems with demonization is that it is fundamentally dishonest. There are no demons, only human beings, and there are few human beings without any redeeming features (and they rarely if ever rise to high political positions or stay there long if inheriting power).

    (In reality, of course, far from “never stepping out of Germany”, he was Austrian and lived in Vienna.)

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    He also went to Paris in 1940 and had a military HQ in Ukraine in 1942-43.
    , @joe webb
    I am not demonizing Hitler, nor anybody else and I agree with you. It is all Darwin. When people get too psychotic, they can be killed. Zero empathy for anybody...and out you go.
    JW
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  131. fnn says:
    @Anon
    I could not agree more.

    You're talking about the Nazis, right?

    I think he means another group:

    http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/fpyockey/prague.html

    WHAT IS BEHIND THE HANGING OF THE ELEVEN JEWS IN PRAGUE ?
    by Francis P. Yockey

    Published in December 1952

    On Friday, November 27, there burst upon the world an event which though small in itself, will have gigantic repercussions in the happenings to come. It will have these repercussions because it will force a political reorientation in the minds of the European elite.

    That event was the conclusion of the treason trial of the Jews in Prague, and their condemnation to death. During the years 1945 and 1946 the coalition Jewry-Washington-Moscow functioned quite perfectly and frictionlessly. When the Israel “State” was established as the result of armed Jewish aggression, the entire world, dominated by Moscow and Washington, sang hymns of praise and congratulation. Washington recognized the new “State” de facto within a few hours of its proclaimed existence. Moscow outbid Washington in pro-Jewishness by giving de jure recognition. Both Washington and Moscow vied with one another in seeking to please the Israel operetta-state and aided it by all means moral and material. Russian diplomats boasted that at last, in Haifa, they had a warm-water port.

    And now, after a few short years, Israel is recalling its “ambassadors” from Russian vassal-states, and intensifying its anti-Russian policy from its American citadel. Volatile Jews in Israel and America cry out that Stalin is following in the footsteps of Hitler. The entire American press boils with fury at anti-semitism in Russia. Anti-semitism, warns the New York Times, is the one thing America will not tolerate in the world.

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  132. iffen says:
    @Randal
    I'm not familiar enough with the history of 1960s US local politics to be too dogmatic on it, but there is a clear and obvious parallel between the deliberate withholding of police protection for political reasons then and at Charlottesville, if the superficial knowledge of those historical events is correct. It's another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Then again, no superficial understanding based upon received opinion about any aspect of US history relating to race relations can be taken on trust, given the established tendency of the anti-white left to distort and rewrite history in its own favour. See, for instance, Mr Unz's own piece:

    American Pravda: The KKK and Mass Racial Killings

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy

    I assume leftist hypocrisy until proven otherwise; I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.

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    I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.
     
    Each to his own, I suppose.
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  133. schmenz says:
    @anarchyst
    I agree with you that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church HAS been compromised by outsiders--jews and protestants, BUT the traditional Catholic Church STILL exists with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) that has rejected ALL of the 1960s "modernisms" that the Church was subject to. From recognizing jewish responsibility for Jesus Christ's crucifixion and death, to rejection of the "modern Mass", and the jewification and protestantization of Catholic doctrine, traditional Catholics DO have an outlet...
    I have no problem with the "universality" of the Catholic Church, as long as congregations of the various ethnic groups are permitted to establish their own Catholic communities, not unlike the situation in the early 20th century, in which various ethnic groups raised funds and built their own churches and congregations.
    As to the homosexual takeover of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church, that was engineered by bishops and priests of the "lavender lobby" which co-opted the seminary system, keeping out good (heterosexual) candidates for the priesthood while paving the way for their homosexual "buddies" to have access to a horribly perverted homosexual cabal within the Church. The mistake was accepting homosexual candidates for the priesthood merely by exacting a "promise" from them not to act on their homosexual tendencies. We know how well THAT worked out...
    The traditional pre-Vatican II Catholic Church, warts and all, STILL has validity in today's world.

    Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Kazakhstan has publicly stated more than once that today’s crisis in the Church is similar to the Arian Heresy. Personally, I think it’s worse. But as in the 4th century the Church will recover and the Modernists now in control will be in history’s dustbin.

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  134. fnn says:
    @Randal

    Hitler never stepped out of Germany
     
    Apart from his military service in Belgium and France, where he served his country with honour, was wounded in battle and was decorated for bravery.

    One of the problems with demonization is that it is fundamentally dishonest. There are no demons, only human beings, and there are few human beings without any redeeming features (and they rarely if ever rise to high political positions or stay there long if inheriting power).

    (In reality, of course, far from "never stepping out of Germany", he was Austrian and lived in Vienna.)

    He also went to Paris in 1940 and had a military HQ in Ukraine in 1942-43.

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  135. Randal says:
    @iffen
    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy

    I assume leftist hypocrisy until proven otherwise; I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.

    I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.

    Each to his own, I suppose.

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    Each to his own, I suppose.

    I gave you a "clean" question and you fish-tailed on me.
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  136. iffen says:
    @Randal
    I'm not familiar enough with the history of 1960s US local politics to be too dogmatic on it, but there is a clear and obvious parallel between the deliberate withholding of police protection for political reasons then and at Charlottesville, if the superficial knowledge of those historical events is correct. It's another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Then again, no superficial understanding based upon received opinion about any aspect of US history relating to race relations can be taken on trust, given the established tendency of the anti-white left to distort and rewrite history in its own favour. See, for instance, Mr Unz's own piece:

    American Pravda: The KKK and Mass Racial Killings

    No matter how good you are at talking the talk (and you are very good) walking the walk is different.

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  137. iffen says:
    @Randal

    I was interested in rightist hypocrisy on the subject.
     
    Each to his own, I suppose.

    Each to his own, I suppose.

    I gave you a “clean” question and you fish-tailed on me.

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    I gave you a “clean” question and you fish-tailed on me.
     
    Not sure what you mean by this.

    Your question was "do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state's police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor's abuse of police power in the 60's?", to which I gave a pretty straight answer, subject to uncertainty about the historical details.
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  138. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Avery
    The link says: "evidence driver was innocent"

    Well, I don't see _any_ evidence he is innocent.
    Quite the contrary.

    Vids are short, and not very clear but I looked at the one above tweet 2:11pm-Aug 13, 2017. It's 4 seconds.

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something. Then a guy on the left steps down the sidewalk and throws a white object which impacts the bumper.

    But the Dodge was clearly driving towards the crowds to start with, _before_ the guy threw the white object at the bumper.
    There were no people around the Dodge at the start of the vid: so he wasn't running away from anything at that point.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something.

    Are you serious? He was driving slowly – until the guy on the left hit his car (not a thrown object) – after which you hear the engine roar and screaming.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?

    Trying to get to the other side? Reversing from that crowd had its own risks. Why the heck did the mayor (former member of Obama’s State Department) leave the streets open and let the “antifa” roam free?

    this nut

    this psycho

    Let’s not jump to conclusions. There’s a possibility he panicked when the car got hit. Before that moment, he certainly didn’t behave like a “nut”.

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    {Why the heck did the mayor (former member of Obama’s State Department) leave the streets open and let the “antifa” roam free?}

    To setup the 'Alt-Right' demonstrators: I am not exonerating the officialdom in the least.
    It is clear they deliberately created the situation to burn the 'white nationalists'.
    I am narrowly and specifically discussing the driver of the Dodge.

    {Are you serious? He was driving slowly – until the guy on the left hit his car (not a thrown object) – after which you hear the engine roar and screaming.}

    Yes I am serious.

    First, 'slowly' and 'hi speed' are subjective, relative, i.e. 60 mph on a city street is hi-speed, but is normal speed for a highway.

    In this case, in an alleyway, I'd say slow is maybe 5 mph.
    My definition.

    Why do I say 'hi-speed'?
    When the 4-second vid starts, the bumper of the car is just this side of the white building.
    Based on that and the estimated distance he traveled in 1-second I calculated he was doing 25-30 mph. I say that is 'hi-speed' for that street with people milling around.
    My opinion,

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  139. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Each to his own, I suppose.

    I gave you a "clean" question and you fish-tailed on me.

    I gave you a “clean” question and you fish-tailed on me.

    Not sure what you mean by this.

    Your question was “do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state’s police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor’s abuse of police power in the 60′s?”, to which I gave a pretty straight answer, subject to uncertainty about the historical details.

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    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers [conservative right-wing types] see the abuse of the state’s police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor’s abuse of police power in the 60′s?
     

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.
     
    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried's current piece?

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  140. iffen says:
    @Randal

    I gave you a “clean” question and you fish-tailed on me.
     
    Not sure what you mean by this.

    Your question was "do you or any fellow travelers see the abuse of the state's police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor's abuse of police power in the 60's?", to which I gave a pretty straight answer, subject to uncertainty about the historical details.

    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers [conservative right-wing types] see the abuse of the state’s police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor’s abuse of police power in the 60′s?

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried’s current piece?

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    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.
     
    You asked a question I answered it. If you wanted me to step into some sort of elephant trap you thought you'd prepared for me then you probably ought to have directed me more explicitly. You claim that politics "isn't about following rules" but about "winning", but here you seem to be going out of your way now to try to drive wedges into the political right by trying to score points about supposed inconsistency.

    OK, I'll see if I can speculate about where you intended to go with the question. Since you are trying to highlight "examples of right wing hypocrisy", presumably you are trying to say that some of the people who complained about their treatment at Charlottesville would support Bull Connor's similar actions in the 1960s directed at black activists.

    Doubtless that's true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?
     
    No, I know about it superficially, but as I pointed out, not in sufficient detail to be confident of all the ins and outs of the particular events of that period and place.

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried’s current piece?
     
    I read it this morning and it seemed pretty anodyne to me, and included the same old naïve silliness about somehow building a resistance to the leftist establishment by being careful to comply with their taboos (or at any rate the particular one of particular concern to him). Not happened in the past few decades and won't in the next. It just makes the taboos stronger and encourages the violent left and collaborating establishment "right" to draw the lines of impermissibility ever more tightly.
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  141. joe webb says:
    @Randal

    Hitler never stepped out of Germany
     
    Apart from his military service in Belgium and France, where he served his country with honour, was wounded in battle and was decorated for bravery.

    One of the problems with demonization is that it is fundamentally dishonest. There are no demons, only human beings, and there are few human beings without any redeeming features (and they rarely if ever rise to high political positions or stay there long if inheriting power).

    (In reality, of course, far from "never stepping out of Germany", he was Austrian and lived in Vienna.)

    I am not demonizing Hitler, nor anybody else and I agree with you. It is all Darwin. When people get too psychotic, they can be killed. Zero empathy for anybody…and out you go.
    JW

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  142. joe webb says:
    @jacques sheete

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.
     
    While JW sounds like a fine fellow, the ignorance he expresses is one reason I've lost all hope in anything reasonable taking place.

    Tons of good people still believe idiot propaganda that's almost a century old.

    FYI, Joe, it is crucial to understand that Hitler was up against some real swine in the form of bankers, corporatists and politicians who supported the Bolshies and the Comintern. Without understanding that basic truth, no one will have a clue, and without a clue the truth cannot prevail. Without the truth, the true believers will be duped repeatedly then kicked into the dust and left to rot.

    Why this isn't obvious by now to everyone is beyond me, and I've frankly given up caring much beyond making comments like this. All I can do at this point is make sure my popcorn supply is intact cuz this is going to get interesting even though I'm confident of the ending. (The idiot classes and eternal enemies will prevail as always.)

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    - Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Anyone who bashes Hitler this late in the game is utterly beyond redemption. Sorry 'bout data!

    speaking of “ignorance,” anybody laying claim to being informed on our stuff and who does not understand the meaning of the word ‘corporatist’, like jack shit here, needs to sent to the showers…football expression.

    Corporatist coming from the Latin, means body, corporeal, Marine Corps, etc.

    jack shit seems to thimk like a leftie, like Michael Moore…its the corporations stupid!. What a semi-idiot. speaking of not knowing jack…

    the core of fascist thinking, I do not say ideology, is that a people is one body, and in our case, one racial body. We have the term, body politic…not bad and you never hear its…too corporatist for the liberals who Believe in Individualism to the exclusion of collectivism of any sort, except to mix all the diverse elements into one big cannibal stew. Then we are one body, a corporate stew of mongrel savagery. Joe W ebb

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  143. joe webb says:
    @Michael McCarthy
    Joe, tell us about your ideas as to how we can best unite our folk. If you know Richard Spencer, would you being willing to publicly debate with him or help him with his alleged personality and behavioral challenges?

    is this my friend M. M. ? Spencer? debate? he would never do it, because he is too soft, in every way.
    Uniting our Folk….we cannot do it, but over time with enough insults and injuries, the Anglo-Saxon finally awakens, and woe to his Enemies. Long process, and we seem to be about half way to the tipping point.

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  144. @Harbinger

    "As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis."
     
    This is what I find interesting.
    Wasn't Hitler a white nationalist?
    Didn't Hitler want to save the western world from the destruction of communist 'internationalism', which is happening this very day?

    The more I read from so called white nationalists, always bringing up Hitler in the negative light, implying I'm a white nationalist, but not the same kind of white nationalist as he, I laugh, clearly because they know nothing, obviously, about just why the rise of Hitler happened.
    Look back through time and see JUST WHY it was that Hitler claimed power in the Weimar Republic. The west is almost at the very same conditions - mass unemployment, oligarchy, Jewish power over all institutions, lives of the indigenous a living hell, pornography and smut rampant, overwhelming rise of the LGBTQ community and the madness of transgenderism and gender pronouns/identification complete and utter insanity.

    But what I find more so incredible, is the complete ignorance of people and cultural Marxists. You think you may know of it, but do you know that those who fled the Marxist School of Critical Theory, fled into the west, where they were all granted top jobs in universities. It was THESE VERY PEOPLE who are responsible for the hell that is happening in the USA and the rest of the west today. Had we not accepted them, Hitler would have removed them permanently - voila! No cultural Marxism and none of this progressive madness.

    The ironic thing is that those 'white' nationalists who attack and denigrate Hitler, fail to realize one thing - had the west fought alongside Hitler, instead of against him, in utterly destroying Communist Russia and Marxist critical Theory, we would not be in the mess that we are today, with the serious demise of western and therefore white culture, nationality and identity.

    Oh and by the way, I am not a national socialist. I do not believe in any form of state control over the individual. I utterly oppose socialism, in all its forms, as it is nothing but state control over society that is easily infiltrated and abused (see O'Brian in Orwell's '1984'), however, given the choice of another Hitler, who would extinguish Jewish power and destroy the communism that is ripping the west apart, albeit, a socialist state or the continuation of what's happening today, I would certainly opt for the former.

    You, in your reply, seem to understand the element of control, of a certain (((tribe))) people and yet you attack the very individual and movement, that would have put an end to it, throughout the west, had we fought on his side.

    The biggest mistake that the west ever did was fight against Hitler. And in doing so, society is the way it is, which will only get rapidly worse. Courtesy of the utter brainwashing of every generation, from the end of the war onwards, we have completely lost the under 50 year olds. It is those, within those generations who are become fewer and fewer and who face the worst torment. Right wing thought is singing its swan song.

    Communist equalitarian propagandists posit that the great cultural inequality in the contributions of the various races is to be accounted for by the fact that the more advanced enjoyed “an unusual collection of fortunate circumstances.”

    That is to say, no race comes to the top because it is more gifted or more masterful, but because it has “better luck.”

    It does not win it’s way, but somehow is given a more “favorable environment.” As far as race itself is concerned, one is as good as another.

    Those who hold such views are often referred to as the “Franz Boas school.”

    Franz Boas was born in Germany in 1858 of radical socialist Jewish parents. His education included no study of anthropology; how he got his Ph.D. appears to be something of a mystery.

    Nevertheless, by 1899 he became Professor of Anthropology at Columbia University, where for nearly 40 years he trained a great many students in his doctrine of so- called social or “cultural” anthropology, (((i.e. cultural Marxism, political correctness a la Frankfurt School))) which breaks with physical anthropology (and all past wisdom on the subject) in its teaching that the long- observed racial differences in feature, capability and character are due primarily to environment rather than to heredity.

    Selected students of Boas, given an aura of authority with PhD degrees, were placed decades ago at the head of anthropogy departments in leading universities, and given the concerted backing of press, radio, and later, TV, which freely published their pronouncements and refused a hearing to those who wanted to answer them.

    Thus, with the students whom they in turn raised up to become heads of university departments they have constituted that “cohesive propaganda group” which has been responsible, more than anything else, for putting almost the entire academic and intellectual life of the United States, and now ever increasingly, the political, and economic, social and religious life of the country as well, on an equalitarian foundation, with what the great mass of people take to be solid scientific backing.

    The conviction that all men are equal was the driving force behind the French Revolution, and it has been the driving force behind every social revolution (or attempt at social revolution) since then.

    It is of critical importance that this be understood, for it is the very essence of the acid which Communism pours upon every society it sets itself to destroy.

    The doctrine of equality will literally dissolve any society to which it is rigorously applied, for all social structure and soundness depend upon the recognition that men are not equal, that direction and leadership, without which a society can neither come into existence nor long endure, must come and can come only, from the few possesed of superior brains and personality.

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    Stonehands,

    Thank you for that and yes, I very much know of Franz Boas or should I say Boasnian Anthropology.

    Your reply clearly shows, to any idiots that deny it, that all one has to do is put certain peoples, with certain viewpoints, into positions of influence within society in order to completely destroy it from within.

    The result, of course, has been the turning of the white race, once a proud race, that did so much good in this world, into a suicidal race, happily setting about sawing away at the branch, it happens to be sitting on, overlooking the abyss.

    It is people, like you, I and others on this forum, who join the dots. Where many see a blank page, we see pointillism, depicting reality.

    How many times have the peoples of the west been warned of this 'cancer' that eats away at our civilization from within? If it isn't feminism and the civilizational murder, courtesy of ever decreasing birthrates and abortion, it's white guilt, that sees nothing wrong in the mass immigration of aliens into their lands.

    And of course, Boas was merely one of many, of Marxist belief who set about the timebomb within western society.
    , @helena
    But communism is not egalitarian because it cannot exist without a ruling body to enforce 'social equivalence' on the population. Therefore, a 'wedding cake' model of society is preferable to a 'pancake with a blob of cream on top'.
    , @joe webb
    good. the shortest and most effective gambit I have in talking to folks...is the Iceberg of the Ice Age, and how it wrecks the Titanic of race equality delusion.

    folks exposed s to several tens of thousands of years of snow and ice...and presto! Natural Selection prunes their genes for intelligence. Those in the bush...left in the bush. too bad.

    This is effective because it is an Environmental argument , just a real big long one. Let your interlocutor win one sort of...Good for their ego.. Also, the liberty , not the IQ argument , seems more effective. Folks are very nervous about IQ, in part cuz they start personalizing.

    Joe Webb
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  145. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Yes. Hitler was neither crazy (he was a risk-taker, perhaps unwisely), nor particularly evil, at least in comparison to the other main players at the time.

    Hitler was not “crazy” as such. I saw one of Hitler’s doctors say on a A&E documentary, “He wasn’t normal, but Hitler was not Mad.”

    A military historian who specializes on the German WW II military felt a primary Hitler trait was “willful stupidity.”

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    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser's two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.
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  146. wayne says:

    I saw a report that said the police believe the driver of the car that killed a woman,panicked after his car was attacked by the left with baseball bats and his car was all battered up.He was trying to get away and afraid for his life.

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  147. Avery says:
    @Randal

    It is ridiculous trying to exonerate this nut.
    The legitimate grievance of Southerners and sympathizers objecting to erasing American history by the loony left mobs is being corrupted when some people try to defend this psycho.
     
    No, it's way too soon to jump to those kinds of conclusions.

    There's a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life and the death was caused unintentionally whilst he was trying to get away. IE that he was not a psychotic, politically motivated murderer at all, as he was immediately and dishonestly assumed to have been (for entirely politically self-serving reasons) by the usual suspects.

    Only a proper police investigation and a trial can determine the truth of that (although whether he has much chance of fair treatment remains to be seen). Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty, and the circumstances do not allow for a straightforward presumption of guilt even in moral terms.

    {There’s a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life…….}

    Based on what evidence?

    {Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty,…..}

    Indeed: ultimately a Court of Law will decide whether he is guilty, not-guilty, not-guilty for reason of insanity, etc.

    But we are not the court of law here: just a place to exchange opinions and ideas.
    Rules of evidence and such are obviously quite different than in a court.

    Somebody posted a link to a 4 second vid with the claim that it proves – ‘evidence’ – the driver’s innocence, with “?”.
    Yeah, it is not all the evidence, but based on that 4 second clip, it is pretty clear to me he was driving right into the crowds _before_ that man threw something at his bumper.

    Do you see something in that 4-second clip that is ‘evidence’ of him fearing for his life?
    I don’t.
    I see evidence that visibility is excellent: I can clearly see the crowds of people at the end of the alleyway even in that low res, small screen video.
    I see evidence that the end of the alley is jam packed with people.
    I see evidence that there are no people other than a a few on the sidewalks when he is driving towards the crowds. .
    I don’t see evidence of him making any attempt to stop, assuming he saw the people too late or something.

    What do you see?

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    Based on what evidence?
     
    The overall situation, if nothing else. "Innocent" in this context means not guilty of what he has already been convicted of by the mainstream media and malign political establishment - of being a psychotic, politically motivated, intentional murderer.

    As you say, this is not a court, it's a matter of common sense that anyone in Charlottesville at that time from the demo was in a very dangerous and menacing situation (thanks to the aggressive violence of the leftist demonstrators who are the people who should rightly be criticised for the situation in general and all the consequences) and there've been suggestions that his car had previously been attacked which seems pretty likely. The videos don't help much because they are too short, lacking in context and difficult to judge speed from because we don't know if they've been speeded up or slowed down.

    As per the pictures above showing his brake lights on, there's no reason whatsoever to speculate that he turned into some kind of psychotic murderer instead of being what you yourself first assumed he was - a justifiably scared person on his own in the midst of menacing armed thugs wanting to get out and perhaps panicking.

    Imo that's most likely what will come out of the trial, provided it is held honestly.

    For the moment, the assumption should be he panicked due to the threatening situation he was in. The contrary speculative assumption of being an intentional murderer is unjustified and just plays into the hands of the leftists who seek to demonise everyone on the right.

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  148. Avery says:
    @Anonymous

    You can see he is already driving down that road at very hi speed and you can hear people screaming something.
     
    Are you serious? He was driving slowly - until the guy on the left hit his car (not a thrown object) - after which you hear the engine roar and screaming.

    Again: what the heck was he doing driving down that road towards a crowd of people to start with?
     
    Trying to get to the other side? Reversing from that crowd had its own risks. Why the heck did the mayor (former member of Obama's State Department) leave the streets open and let the "antifa" roam free?

    this nut
     

    this psycho
     
    Let's not jump to conclusions. There's a possibility he panicked when the car got hit. Before that moment, he certainly didn't behave like a "nut".

    {Why the heck did the mayor (former member of Obama’s State Department) leave the streets open and let the “antifa” roam free?}

    To setup the ‘Alt-Right’ demonstrators: I am not exonerating the officialdom in the least.
    It is clear they deliberately created the situation to burn the ‘white nationalists’.
    I am narrowly and specifically discussing the driver of the Dodge.

    {Are you serious? He was driving slowly – until the guy on the left hit his car (not a thrown object) – after which you hear the engine roar and screaming.}

    Yes I am serious.

    First, ‘slowly’ and ‘hi speed’ are subjective, relative, i.e. 60 mph on a city street is hi-speed, but is normal speed for a highway.

    In this case, in an alleyway, I’d say slow is maybe 5 mph.
    My definition.

    Why do I say ‘hi-speed’?
    When the 4-second vid starts, the bumper of the car is just this side of the white building.
    Based on that and the estimated distance he traveled in 1-second I calculated he was doing 25-30 mph. I say that is ‘hi-speed’ for that street with people milling around.
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  149. Randal says:
    @iffen

    BTW, do you or any fellow travelers [conservative right-wing types] see the abuse of the state’s police power displayed in Charlottesville as a perfect replication of Bull Connor’s abuse of police power in the 60′s?
     

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.
     
    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried's current piece?

    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.

    You asked a question I answered it. If you wanted me to step into some sort of elephant trap you thought you’d prepared for me then you probably ought to have directed me more explicitly. You claim that politics “isn’t about following rules” but about “winning”, but here you seem to be going out of your way now to try to drive wedges into the political right by trying to score points about supposed inconsistency.

    OK, I’ll see if I can speculate about where you intended to go with the question. Since you are trying to highlight “examples of right wing hypocrisy”, presumably you are trying to say that some of the people who complained about their treatment at Charlottesville would support Bull Connor’s similar actions in the 1960s directed at black activists.

    Doubtless that’s true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?

    No, I know about it superficially, but as I pointed out, not in sufficient detail to be confident of all the ins and outs of the particular events of that period and place.

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried’s current piece?

    I read it this morning and it seemed pretty anodyne to me, and included the same old naïve silliness about somehow building a resistance to the leftist establishment by being careful to comply with their taboos (or at any rate the particular one of particular concern to him). Not happened in the past few decades and won’t in the next. It just makes the taboos stronger and encourages the violent left and collaborating establishment “right” to draw the lines of impermissibility ever more tightly.

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    Doubtless that’s true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.

    I have been straightforward with you and others and do not engage in deception. I am not right-wing. One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events. Many of the analyses and critiques of political events that I find here align very well with my opinions. (What to with the information, if anything, is another story.)

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:


    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.
     
    unless your intent is to be hysterically ironic.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.

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  150. Randal says:
    @Avery
    {There’s a legitimate case to be made that he was in fear for his life.......}

    Based on what evidence?


    {Until then he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty,.....}

    Indeed: ultimately a Court of Law will decide whether he is guilty, not-guilty, not-guilty for reason of insanity, etc.

    But we are not the court of law here: just a place to exchange opinions and ideas.
    Rules of evidence and such are obviously quite different than in a court.

    Somebody posted a link to a 4 second vid with the claim that it proves - 'evidence' - the driver's innocence, with "?".
    Yeah, it is not all the evidence, but based on that 4 second clip, it is pretty clear to me he was driving right into the crowds _before_ that man threw something at his bumper.

    Do you see something in that 4-second clip that is 'evidence' of him fearing for his life?
    I don't.
    I see evidence that visibility is excellent: I can clearly see the crowds of people at the end of the alleyway even in that low res, small screen video.
    I see evidence that the end of the alley is jam packed with people.
    I see evidence that there are no people other than a a few on the sidewalks when he is driving towards the crowds. .
    I don't see evidence of him making any attempt to stop, assuming he saw the people too late or something.

    What do you see?

    Based on what evidence?

    The overall situation, if nothing else. “Innocent” in this context means not guilty of what he has already been convicted of by the mainstream media and malign political establishment – of being a psychotic, politically motivated, intentional murderer.

    As you say, this is not a court, it’s a matter of common sense that anyone in Charlottesville at that time from the demo was in a very dangerous and menacing situation (thanks to the aggressive violence of the leftist demonstrators who are the people who should rightly be criticised for the situation in general and all the consequences) and there’ve been suggestions that his car had previously been attacked which seems pretty likely. The videos don’t help much because they are too short, lacking in context and difficult to judge speed from because we don’t know if they’ve been speeded up or slowed down.

    As per the pictures above showing his brake lights on, there’s no reason whatsoever to speculate that he turned into some kind of psychotic murderer instead of being what you yourself first assumed he was – a justifiably scared person on his own in the midst of menacing armed thugs wanting to get out and perhaps panicking.

    Imo that’s most likely what will come out of the trial, provided it is held honestly.

    For the moment, the assumption should be he panicked due to the threatening situation he was in. The contrary speculative assumption of being an intentional murderer is unjustified and just plays into the hands of the leftists who seek to demonise everyone on the right.

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    First, ‘slowly’ and ‘hi speed’ are subjective, relative, i.e. 60 mph on a city street is hi-speed, but is normal speed for a highway.

    And yet you said “very hi speed”. What’s that – 90? At that speed the car would have been totalled and many more people would have died.

    I’ve seen at least 7-8 videos from different perspectives so far. The guy has reduced his speed to 15-20 Km/h before getting hit by the scrawny antifa. Trust me.

    Another video is showing the two cars in front of him (I’m 95% sure) also getting into trouble. The dark red SUV hit the crowd (less violently but with injuries) and the other one hit the SUV (maybe – it’s not clear from the video). Were those drivers also “psycho nuts”?

    I’ll try to upload the videos and link but the current video sharing service I’m using is not accepting them.

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    As Avery said, 25-30mph would be a very - irresponsibly - high speed for the road in question - in normal times.

    For a man panicked , in the midst of a thuggish armed mob and perhaps having already been attacked - not so unreasonable.
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  152. David says:
    @Randal

    What they really want is to crush the spirit that led to Trump’s election. They want a country in which the scope of acceptable “opposition” opinion is represented by John McCain. They want to be able to use “racist” and “anti-Semite” smears (plus their weaker siblings “sexist,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe”) as a bloody shirt on steroids to irrevocably shut down any speech and speakers that threaten the power status quo.
     
    Absolutely.

    There's a famous quote attributed to Erdogan that says words to the effect of: "democracy is like a tram - you ride it until you reach your destination and then you get off".

    Well for the left, free speech is like that. They loudly declared their allegiance to it until they were sure that they themselves were safely the ones who would decide what speech would be suppressed, and then they got off.

    I think this paragraph that I already copied in somewhere else neatly illustrates your comment.

    All societies have certain organizing principles. Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles. In America today one of those principles is that discrimination based on race is immoral; people who disagree with this have only one goal — creating a society in which it is not one of those principles. If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.

    http://theweek.com/articles/718454/censor-white-supremacy

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    Yes, that's a great example. Of course, leftists weren't accepting freedom of speech as being "not a first order good" back when they were declaring we must adhere to "I hate what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it", and insisting that ideological screeds, blasphemies, obscenities and obscene works of "art" that were intended to undermine the "organising principles" of our societies were required to be allowed on fundamental free speech principles.

    If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.
     
    The leftists really are remarkably unself-aware when it comes to the totalitarian nature of their ideology.

    All part of the process of setting the scene for ending US First Amendment protections for the political right, once a couple more leftist Supreme Court justices have been appointed.
    , @iffen
    Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles.

    There is not a lot to argue here as this is correct. If sufficient numbers do not agree upon keeping our liberal representative democracy as a going concern, it would be stupid to place any effort into keeping supporting and enabling ideals in place to support something that no longer exists.
    , @Clark Westwood
    That quote is excellent evidence of what's going on. Part of the Dems' long game is to get the country to reinterpret the First Amendment such that it doesn't protect (so-called) "hate" speech. They are salivating at the thought of having European-style laws that criminalize Holocaust-denialism, "group" insults, etc.

    Here's another quote that reveals this goal, a truly nauseating tweet from mental midget Marco Rubio:

    When entire movement built on anger [and] hatred towards people different than you,it justifies [and] ultimately leads to violence against them
     
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/16/marco-rubio-posted-an-interesting-response-to-trumps-defiant-statement-on-racism/
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  153. Randal says:
    @Anonymous

    First, ‘slowly’ and ‘hi speed’ are subjective, relative, i.e. 60 mph on a city street is hi-speed, but is normal speed for a highway.
     
    And yet you said "very hi speed". What's that - 90? At that speed the car would have been totalled and many more people would have died.

    I've seen at least 7-8 videos from different perspectives so far. The guy has reduced his speed to 15-20 Km/h before getting hit by the scrawny antifa. Trust me.

    Another video is showing the two cars in front of him (I'm 95% sure) also getting into trouble. The dark red SUV hit the crowd (less violently but with injuries) and the other one hit the SUV (maybe - it's not clear from the video). Were those drivers also "psycho nuts"?

    I'll try to upload the videos and link but the current video sharing service I'm using is not accepting them.

    As Avery said, 25-30mph would be a very – irresponsibly – high speed for the road in question – in normal times.

    For a man panicked , in the midst of a thuggish armed mob and perhaps having already been attacked – not so unreasonable.

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    I'm talking about Km/ph - not mph. I have the videos on my HDD (nothing suspicious about FPS manipualtion so far) showing that the guy was slowing down (to 15-20 Km/ph) before getting hit by the antifa drone. I'll link when I can (another service is refusing to cooperate).

    In another place, people are wandering why the air-bags didn't deploy. He really didn't go that fast and he really didn't accelerate until he was hit.

    Air bags are typically designed to deploy in frontal and near-frontal collisions, which are comparable to hitting a solid barrier at approximately 8 to 14 miles per hour (mph). Roughly speaking, a 14 mph barrier collision is equivalent to striking a parked car of similar size across the full front of each vehicle at about 28 mph. This is because the parked car absorbs some of the energy of the crash, and is pushed by the striking vehicle. Unlike crash tests into barriers, real-world crashes typically occur at angles, and the crash forces usually are not evenly distributed across the front of the vehicle. Consequently, the relative speed between a striking and struck vehicle required to deploy the air bag in a real-world crash can be much higher than an equivalent barrier crash.
     
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  154. iffen says:
    @Randal

    Not asking about left hypocrisy; I’m asking about right hypocrisy.
     
    You asked a question I answered it. If you wanted me to step into some sort of elephant trap you thought you'd prepared for me then you probably ought to have directed me more explicitly. You claim that politics "isn't about following rules" but about "winning", but here you seem to be going out of your way now to try to drive wedges into the political right by trying to score points about supposed inconsistency.

    OK, I'll see if I can speculate about where you intended to go with the question. Since you are trying to highlight "examples of right wing hypocrisy", presumably you are trying to say that some of the people who complained about their treatment at Charlottesville would support Bull Connor's similar actions in the 1960s directed at black activists.

    Doubtless that's true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    Not trying to be particularly nasty but you hold forth on many, many subjects and you want me to believe that the Civil Rights Era in the US is a blank slate for you?
     
    No, I know about it superficially, but as I pointed out, not in sufficient detail to be confident of all the ins and outs of the particular events of that period and place.

    On the question of safe spaces for Nazis, have you read Prof. Gottfried’s current piece?
     
    I read it this morning and it seemed pretty anodyne to me, and included the same old naïve silliness about somehow building a resistance to the leftist establishment by being careful to comply with their taboos (or at any rate the particular one of particular concern to him). Not happened in the past few decades and won't in the next. It just makes the taboos stronger and encourages the violent left and collaborating establishment "right" to draw the lines of impermissibility ever more tightly.

    Doubtless that’s true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.

    I have been straightforward with you and others and do not engage in deception. I am not right-wing. One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events. Many of the analyses and critiques of political events that I find here align very well with my opinions. (What to with the information, if anything, is another story.)

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:

    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.

    unless your intent is to be hysterically ironic.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.

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    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.
     
    Strange, because that acknowledgement is precisely what I gave you in the very reply to which you are addressing that comment, though I did point out its irrelevance to any but a tiny minority, even amongst the political right.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there, because the whole problem is that the received opinion in the societies we live in is wholly in the direction of the leftist hypocrisy, whereas almost nobody adheres to the "rightist" hypocrisy you describe. You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy, whereas you almost certainly would for asserting the opposite. What's more you would face violence in many places if you were to assert the latter publicly, and quite possibly arrest and criminal charges in the UK and much of Europe, whereas to face actual violence in response to asserting the leftist hypocrisy you'd have to do it in one of a vanishingly small number of remote locations.

    The sickness in our societies is of the political left, not the right, which is merely responding (and doing so very tardily).


    One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events.
     
    Most likely because it is lightly censored, whereas most discussion sites are heavily politically censored these days, and as a result people self-censor even more than they are required to. Such heavily censored environments are corrosive to any proper grasp of reality and tend to promote groupthink.

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:
     
    No, there is no equivalence with those who seek to violently suppress the expression of views of which they disapprove, at least not for me. I can believe that you might advocate locking up Nazis in particular, but I don't recall you actually saying so and have a vague recollection you might have denied it in the past. If you were to do so, then that would indeed reduce you to the moral level of the antifas and left jihadists.

    I don't understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don't believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.
     
    If it's a War for Civilisation, what are the sides and which side are you on (given you've earlier insisted you are not "right wing")?
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  155. All this talk about alt-right using the Nazis and the KKK is nonsense. I agree that they should not have done it but here is the reality – even if the alt-right was wearing suits and looked like Wall Street investment bankers the media/govmt/deep state/whatever would have still demonized them.

    They would be condemned just the same as racists, white supremacists, nazis, etc… It doesnt matter what these people looked like or said. It was a forgone conclusion even before it started what the left was going to do.

    Do people understand that?

    The fundamental issue is that the left does not want whites to organize because it interferes with their plans. Because if whites organize their agenda goes down the tubes.

    This is not over by a long shot. All these polls that people see are nonsense, the polling people are the media. Of course they are going to lie. They lie about everything else. I know tons of people that support the alt-right, they are just smart enough not to say it out loud because you will be destroyed. As an example – all them men in my gym are alt-right. Not a single one is a left winger. As for the women, that I dont know.

    You want to control the image the media sees – than dress conservatively and carry ONLY American flags. No nazi stuff, no kkk stuff – look like business men that are mad. Frankly I dont think its going to work because they are going to do the same exact thing to you. Bet on it.

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  156. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Randal
    As Avery said, 25-30mph would be a very - irresponsibly - high speed for the road in question - in normal times.

    For a man panicked , in the midst of a thuggish armed mob and perhaps having already been attacked - not so unreasonable.

    I’m talking about Km/ph – not mph. I have the videos on my HDD (nothing suspicious about FPS manipualtion so far) showing that the guy was slowing down (to 15-20 Km/ph) before getting hit by the antifa drone. I’ll link when I can (another service is refusing to cooperate).

    In another place, people are wandering why the air-bags didn’t deploy. He really didn’t go that fast and he really didn’t accelerate until he was hit.

    Air bags are typically designed to deploy in frontal and near-frontal collisions, which are comparable to hitting a solid barrier at approximately 8 to 14 miles per hour (mph). Roughly speaking, a 14 mph barrier collision is equivalent to striking a parked car of similar size across the full front of each vehicle at about 28 mph. This is because the parked car absorbs some of the energy of the crash, and is pushed by the striking vehicle. Unlike crash tests into barriers, real-world crashes typically occur at angles, and the crash forces usually are not evenly distributed across the front of the vehicle. Consequently, the relative speed between a striking and struck vehicle required to deploy the air bag in a real-world crash can be much higher than an equivalent barrier crash.

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    As I wrote above, the natural presumption is that this was a panicked guy under threat. It's inherently unlikely he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, but we can be sure that if there is actually any evidence for it, it will be paraded by the media and by the left and the collaborating establishment right - men like Rubio, the Bushes etc.

    If it turns out that there is evidence that he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, then there will be plenty of time for condemning him when he's convicted, and no shortage of people on the genuine right willing to do so.

    In the meantime any criticism of the driver merely draws attention away from the people who really ought to be held responsible - the state authorities and the leftist thugs who went out to try to violently suppress the expression of opinions of which they disapprove.
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  157. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Why Was This ‘Crowd Hire’ Company Recruiting $25 An Hour ‘Political Activists’ In Charlotte Last Week?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee

    Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based “public relations firm specializing in innovative events” to serve as agitators in counterprotests.

    The ad was posted by a company called “Crowds on Demand” and offered $25 per hour to “actors and photographers” to participate in events in the “Charlotte, NC area.” While the ad didn’t explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of “actors and photographers” it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were “ok with participating in peaceful protests.”

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    Haha, this is the (((guy))) behind this.

    Every. Fucking. Time:

    https://kek.gg/i/3RLTbv.png

    https://kek.gg/i/7jbfPY.png

    https://kek.gg/i/7Qg5QW.png

    https://kek.gg/i/8dFkQ3.png
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  158. Randal says:
    @David
    I think this paragraph that I already copied in somewhere else neatly illustrates your comment.

    All societies have certain organizing principles. Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles. In America today one of those principles is that discrimination based on race is immoral; people who disagree with this have only one goal — creating a society in which it is not one of those principles. If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.
     
    http://theweek.com/articles/718454/censor-white-supremacy

    Yes, that’s a great example. Of course, leftists weren’t accepting freedom of speech as being “not a first order good” back when they were declaring we must adhere to “I hate what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”, and insisting that ideological screeds, blasphemies, obscenities and obscene works of “art” that were intended to undermine the “organising principles” of our societies were required to be allowed on fundamental free speech principles.

    If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.

    The leftists really are remarkably unself-aware when it comes to the totalitarian nature of their ideology.

    All part of the process of setting the scene for ending US First Amendment protections for the political right, once a couple more leftist Supreme Court justices have been appointed.

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  159. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee

    Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based "public relations firm specializing in innovative events" to serve as agitators in counterprotests.

    The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area." While the ad didn't explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of "actors and photographers" it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were "ok with participating in peaceful protests."
     

    Haha, this is the (((guy))) behind this.

    Every. Fucking. Time:

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  160. J. Rettig says:
    @Michael Kenny
    I wouldn’t call the demonstrators “alt-right”. The alt-right seems to be a recently-coined name for a small group of well-financed middle class extremists who make a lot of noise on the internet but who seem to have no support in the electorate. For many years, the people who now call themselves the alt-right have spent almost as much time attacking the EU as they have discussing American affairs and have recently joined the pro-Putin camp. I doubt if any of the demonstrators in Charlottesville care one whit about the EU or Putin, one way or the other. Indeed, some might not even know what the EU was. Thus, the demonstrators could properly be described as “far right” but not “alt-right” and there’s no sign that any major alt-right figure was present in Charlottesville. In all probability, many of the groups present in Charlottesville have never heard of the alt-right and if they had, would see them as “Johnny-come-latelys” trying to hijack their movement. I find the description of Robert E. Lee rather amusing.

    The Ignorance Light flashed a very bright red over your last sentence. No doubt your past school education has consisted entirely of vid-iot news, talk shows and movies. If you are under 40 your schooling enfeebled your mind as intended, so that statement strictly speaking is excusable.

    Have a nice day.

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  161. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Doubtless that’s true of a minority of them, but so what? What does it change, in your opinion?

    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.

    I have been straightforward with you and others and do not engage in deception. I am not right-wing. One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events. Many of the analyses and critiques of political events that I find here align very well with my opinions. (What to with the information, if anything, is another story.)

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:


    No harm then in pointing out the hypocrisy of those who claimed for years to believe in something as a matter of principle, only to ditch it when themselves in power.
     
    unless your intent is to be hysterically ironic.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.

    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.

    Strange, because that acknowledgement is precisely what I gave you in the very reply to which you are addressing that comment, though I did point out its irrelevance to any but a tiny minority, even amongst the political right.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there, because the whole problem is that the received opinion in the societies we live in is wholly in the direction of the leftist hypocrisy, whereas almost nobody adheres to the “rightist” hypocrisy you describe. You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy, whereas you almost certainly would for asserting the opposite. What’s more you would face violence in many places if you were to assert the latter publicly, and quite possibly arrest and criminal charges in the UK and much of Europe, whereas to face actual violence in response to asserting the leftist hypocrisy you’d have to do it in one of a vanishingly small number of remote locations.

    The sickness in our societies is of the political left, not the right, which is merely responding (and doing so very tardily).

    One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events.

    Most likely because it is lightly censored, whereas most discussion sites are heavily politically censored these days, and as a result people self-censor even more than they are required to. Such heavily censored environments are corrosive to any proper grasp of reality and tend to promote groupthink.

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:

    No, there is no equivalence with those who seek to violently suppress the expression of views of which they disapprove, at least not for me. I can believe that you might advocate locking up Nazis in particular, but I don’t recall you actually saying so and have a vague recollection you might have denied it in the past. If you were to do so, then that would indeed reduce you to the moral level of the antifas and left jihadists.

    I don’t understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don’t believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.

    If it’s a War for Civilisation, what are the sides and which side are you on (given you’ve earlier insisted you are not “right wing”)?

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    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)

    For or against. What other sides could there be?

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.

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  162. Randal says:
    @Anonymous
    I'm talking about Km/ph - not mph. I have the videos on my HDD (nothing suspicious about FPS manipualtion so far) showing that the guy was slowing down (to 15-20 Km/ph) before getting hit by the antifa drone. I'll link when I can (another service is refusing to cooperate).

    In another place, people are wandering why the air-bags didn't deploy. He really didn't go that fast and he really didn't accelerate until he was hit.

    Air bags are typically designed to deploy in frontal and near-frontal collisions, which are comparable to hitting a solid barrier at approximately 8 to 14 miles per hour (mph). Roughly speaking, a 14 mph barrier collision is equivalent to striking a parked car of similar size across the full front of each vehicle at about 28 mph. This is because the parked car absorbs some of the energy of the crash, and is pushed by the striking vehicle. Unlike crash tests into barriers, real-world crashes typically occur at angles, and the crash forces usually are not evenly distributed across the front of the vehicle. Consequently, the relative speed between a striking and struck vehicle required to deploy the air bag in a real-world crash can be much higher than an equivalent barrier crash.
     

    As I wrote above, the natural presumption is that this was a panicked guy under threat. It’s inherently unlikely he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, but we can be sure that if there is actually any evidence for it, it will be paraded by the media and by the left and the collaborating establishment right – men like Rubio, the Bushes etc.

    If it turns out that there is evidence that he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, then there will be plenty of time for condemning him when he’s convicted, and no shortage of people on the genuine right willing to do so.

    In the meantime any criticism of the driver merely draws attention away from the people who really ought to be held responsible – the state authorities and the leftist thugs who went out to try to violently suppress the expression of opinions of which they disapprove.

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    I agree but the "official" narrative is clearly clashing with the IRL footage.
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  163. iffen says:
    @David
    I think this paragraph that I already copied in somewhere else neatly illustrates your comment.

    All societies have certain organizing principles. Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles. In America today one of those principles is that discrimination based on race is immoral; people who disagree with this have only one goal — creating a society in which it is not one of those principles. If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.
     
    http://theweek.com/articles/718454/censor-white-supremacy

    Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles.

    There is not a lot to argue here as this is correct. If sufficient numbers do not agree upon keeping our liberal representative democracy as a going concern, it would be stupid to place any effort into keeping supporting and enabling ideals in place to support something that no longer exists.

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  164. Sowhat says:
    @Harbinger
    How on earth do you presume that I depend on it [state control]? How on earth can you even begin to believe that anarchists depend of state control over them, when they do not espouse it?
    For your information, you may well look up YouTube and watch 'alt-right' broadcasts of the 'anarchist' ANTIFA up to their antics, but what you obviously fail to see is that not only is the 'alt-right' NOT right wing, but ANTIFA are NOT anarchists.

    Here's a little help on political placing:

    Communism <<- Socialism <<- Liberalism ->> Conservatism ->> Anarchism

    You CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT have left wing anarchy as it's an oxymoron. In order for the left wing to promote their views, which are pro feminism, pro LGBT, pro anti religion, pro everything not right, they need a mechanism with which to enforce their 'ideals' and voila, the state is born. The state then goes about creating legislation with which to force the beliefs of the left upon those who do not want them. If they do not recognize the demands of the left they find themselves out of work, in a court of law and fined/imprisoned.

    On the contrary, the further right one goes, it moves into an anti statist spectrum, from conservatism (conserving one's culture and traditions) into libertarianism and eventually into anarchy - without rule.

    There is this insane notion that fascism and nazism are right wing. They are not. Fascism is the merger of corporation and the state into an authoritarian system. It is left wing. Nazism, or should I say, national SOCIALISM, is a national control of society by the state. Both fascism and nazism are one and the same - both state control.
    People somehow believe that from conservatism into libertarianism into anarchy, we somehow end up with the state popping up to control everyone.

    What the left hate to admit is that national socialism AND fascism are both left wing, authoritarian ideologies, purely for the sake that the minute you get into any form of control over society, via the state, against the wishes of the individual, to benefit the group, you are moving LEFT of centre, with centre being classic British Liberalism. The further right you move into individuality. The further left you move into the group.

    Is the new world order, that is the creation of a world hive, left wing or right wing, taking into account everything that I've written Marshall?
    Please don't let the highly controlled msm and publishing companies, influence you on their bogus definition of anarchy being left wing or the fake 'alternative right' calling ANTIFA out as left wing anarchists. Anarchism IS right wing. It always HAS been right wing, because it puts the life and choices of the individual first. Extreme right wing is NOT white supremacy. It is anarchy, but that stated, there most certainly will be white supremacists and all sorts of peoples who are anarchists, that is if they don't believe in rulers over people.

    Great article and enlighfening comments from many and especially you at your age.
    Sir, I’ve really enjoyed your comments. I didn’t expect to read a quote from Spurgeon, here. Very appropriate. I agree with your reasoning.
    Regarding the Goyim and Jewish lies, I first learned that their religious writings and many of their religious scholars consider gentiles less than dogs. It is perfectly acceptable for them to lie and deceive anyone outside their Faith if it a Jew benefits. In fact, I discovered many revelations at radioislam.com. that I never realized, previously, regarding all things jewish.
    Western Civilization is doomed. The U.S. in particular, will have a great fall. No one has guarded the hen house in a long time. I’ve always pictured the U.S. as “that great harlot, Babylon.”

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    Thank you Sowhat.

    People haven't the foggiest of what's going on, because they're too busy staring at the fake wizard of Oz, while ignoring the man behind the curtain. It's their wilful ignorance, to simply accept and not question that will result in their impending doom. It is completely brought about through their inactivity to be skeptical. They simply accept without question, transfixed with celebrity, sport, music, film and all other manner of distractions. We may be living in the 21st century, but we could just as well be living in Rome, happily distracted by the chariot races and the gladiatorial combat, while feasting on free bread, while the Emperor plots.

    Here in the UK, we are now living under Talmudism. Halacha law has now conquered common law. We no longer have freedom of speech. People are obsessed with celebrity. Pubs show football on TV screens, of which I do not, nor ever will own again. There is no intelligent discourse in pubs and if it does get political, it's the usual left-right Hegelian dialectic, Socialism versus Conservatism, when they fail to see that there's nothing socialist about socialism nor conservative about conservatism.

    I have to finish off by stating I am shocked at what I'm seeing happening in the USA. I was over there in 1991 and all the people I met were always so polite and courteous. It was such a shock to how people were here. And now BOOM! You are headed for civil war. In fact, so are we too I believe and the rest of Europe. It's all been carefully concocted in the Jewish cauldron, who even when they're found out, will still lie and manage to pull the wool over the eyes of the goyim. Your younger generations are utterly indoctrinated. I shake my head in disbelief when I see white people march with blacks who curse at white people. Never would blacks march with whites and let the same happen to their race. It's disgusting.

    The truth will always set you free, but never has there been a need more than ever, to tell the truth than today. People must and face persecution in doing so. And as I always say to people; "I would far rather be hated, while being honest and true than be loved while being deceitful and false".
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  165. iffen says:
    @Randal

    I am not going to hold my breath for any right-winger (including you) or any left-winger for that matter, to acknowledge that the shoe is on the other foot with regard to the abuse of state police power in Charlottesville vis-a-vis Birmingham circa 1963.

    Crickets are all I need to hear to confirm my opinion.
     
    Strange, because that acknowledgement is precisely what I gave you in the very reply to which you are addressing that comment, though I did point out its irrelevance to any but a tiny minority, even amongst the political right.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there, because the whole problem is that the received opinion in the societies we live in is wholly in the direction of the leftist hypocrisy, whereas almost nobody adheres to the "rightist" hypocrisy you describe. You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy, whereas you almost certainly would for asserting the opposite. What's more you would face violence in many places if you were to assert the latter publicly, and quite possibly arrest and criminal charges in the UK and much of Europe, whereas to face actual violence in response to asserting the leftist hypocrisy you'd have to do it in one of a vanishingly small number of remote locations.

    The sickness in our societies is of the political left, not the right, which is merely responding (and doing so very tardily).


    One of the reasons that I hang around here is because this is the only place that I have found where a small number of people can see and understand situations like Charlottesville and engage in discussion about those events.
     
    Most likely because it is lightly censored, whereas most discussion sites are heavily politically censored these days, and as a result people self-censor even more than they are required to. Such heavily censored environments are corrosive to any proper grasp of reality and tend to promote groupthink.

    I simply refuse to cede any moral high ground to you. You are a partisan, just like me, and just like the antifas and left jihadists in Charlottesville. You should really stop posting stuff like this:
     
    No, there is no equivalence with those who seek to violently suppress the expression of views of which they disapprove, at least not for me. I can believe that you might advocate locking up Nazis in particular, but I don't recall you actually saying so and have a vague recollection you might have denied it in the past. If you were to do so, then that would indeed reduce you to the moral level of the antifas and left jihadists.

    I don't understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don't believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    I really like Professor Gottfried’s characterization of the current situation as The War for Civilization. That’s a big tent. More than enough room for me and you and others like us.
     
    If it's a War for Civilisation, what are the sides and which side are you on (given you've earlier insisted you are not "right wing")?

    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)

    For or against. What other sides could there be?

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.

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    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)
     
    I suppose so, from your perspective.


    For or against. What other sides could there be?
     
    Not very useful. So what constitutes the "for civilisation" side that you state that you favour?

    Evidently it doesn't include freedom of speech as a basic principle, based upon your reply to David above, nor therefore the US Constitution in its current form.

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?
     
    I'm not the one claiming to be on the side of civilisation in a "war for civilisation", or at any rate not so far in this particular exchange.

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.
     
    Perhaps I am, but until you've explained what you mean by it there's no way to tell.
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  166. @Clark Westwood
    Beautifully written and inspiring. (Do I detect toward the end conscious echoes of leisurely 19th-century rhetoric?)

    he [Lee] also comprehended what the tyranny of an overreaching Federal government might mean. And he made a momentous decision to stand with his state AND for the American Constitution.
     
    You're not allowed to say that Confederates were fighting to preserve the principles of the Constitution. The Constitution = Lincoln, while Confederates = treason. The history is settled!

    Wonder if they’ll try to ban GWTW because it doesn’t represent all Southerners as slave-beatin’ sadists. Ironically, neither Scarlett nor Rhett believed in the War, but I guess the SJWs don’t have to read a book before they ban it.

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  167. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Randal
    As I wrote above, the natural presumption is that this was a panicked guy under threat. It's inherently unlikely he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, but we can be sure that if there is actually any evidence for it, it will be paraded by the media and by the left and the collaborating establishment right - men like Rubio, the Bushes etc.

    If it turns out that there is evidence that he was a psychotic intentional political murderer, then there will be plenty of time for condemning him when he's convicted, and no shortage of people on the genuine right willing to do so.

    In the meantime any criticism of the driver merely draws attention away from the people who really ought to be held responsible - the state authorities and the leftist thugs who went out to try to violently suppress the expression of opinions of which they disapprove.

    I agree but the “official” narrative is clearly clashing with the IRL footage.

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  168. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)

    For or against. What other sides could there be?

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.

    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)

    I suppose so, from your perspective.

    For or against. What other sides could there be?

    Not very useful. So what constitutes the “for civilisation” side that you state that you favour?

    Evidently it doesn’t include freedom of speech as a basic principle, based upon your reply to David above, nor therefore the US Constitution in its current form.

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?

    I’m not the one claiming to be on the side of civilisation in a “war for civilisation”, or at any rate not so far in this particular exchange.

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.

    Perhaps I am, but until you’ve explained what you mean by it there’s no way to tell.

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    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Yes, but it’s just as good for showing rightist hypocrisy. That was my question to you. We were already in agreement on leftist hypocrisy.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there… You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy

    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham state police power was turned against peaceful and lawful civil rights protesters in favor of semi-organized white mobs.
    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham, many, perhaps hundreds of black people lost their jobs in the private sector for joining the NAACP, marching in a lawful assembly, writing a letter to the editor expressing support for civil rights, and for other lawful civil rights activities.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?

    In 2017, in Charlottesville state police power was turned against a group that had the lawful right to assemble and in favor of violent antifas and (apparently) hired trouble makers.
    In 2017, people are fired all across academia and corporate America for exercising their right to free speech.

    Right-wingers say: that’s right! Left-wingers say: huh?

    I don’t understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don’t believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.

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  169. @Priss Factor
    If Confederate statues must come down because the Confederacy rebelled and fought the National Government, then why do we have statues to Indians? Didn't Indians fight the 'progressive' whites spreading democracy and free enterprise and rule of law throughout the West?

    We’re talking about people who want Nate Forrest’s bust removed from UVA, despite the fact that he founded the Klan to defy what he saw as Yankee Occupiers, and disavowed it when it shifted its focus to lynching blacks. His friendly speech to a black group in 1875 was slammed by an organization of cavalry veterans. Dead all these years, and he still can’t please anybody!

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  170. @David
    I think this paragraph that I already copied in somewhere else neatly illustrates your comment.

    All societies have certain organizing principles. Freedom of speech is not a first-order good; it exists only to facilitate the flourishing of the society along the lines established by those principles. In America today one of those principles is that discrimination based on race is immoral; people who disagree with this have only one goal — creating a society in which it is not one of those principles. If we do not want to allow this to happen, we should not permit anyone to argue in favor of it.
     
    http://theweek.com/articles/718454/censor-white-supremacy

    That quote is excellent evidence of what’s going on. Part of the Dems’ long game is to get the country to reinterpret the First Amendment such that it doesn’t protect (so-called) “hate” speech. They are salivating at the thought of having European-style laws that criminalize Holocaust-denialism, “group” insults, etc.

    Here’s another quote that reveals this goal, a truly nauseating tweet from mental midget Marco Rubio:

    When entire movement built on anger [and] hatred towards people different than you,it justifies [and] ultimately leads to violence against them

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/16/marco-rubio-posted-an-interesting-response-to-trumps-defiant-statement-on-racism/

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    So long as and to the extent that the likes of Rubio are still elected as supposed "Republicans", conservatives have no honest representation in the US.
    , @annamaria
    The pussy-hats evolved into the violent anti-history pigs who have no idea that their beloved Obama the Fraud had authorized a coup d'etat in Ukraine in 2014, which brought to power the real neo-Nazis. There were dozens of people burnt alive in Odessa by the loyalists to Kiev's junta in the same 2014; none of the murderers was punished and there was not a peep from Obama/Clinton administration.
    Neo-Nazis in Ukrainian government: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html
    Odessa massacre: http://theduran.com/remembering-the-odessa-massacre-2-may-2014/

    As for Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, John McCain (a personal friend of the influential neo-Nazis in Ukraine), and the criminal Karl Rove, shouldn't they move to live among their favorite black people and antifas? ... Neah... they want to live in their well-protected and very expensive white areas.
    Watch til the Charlottesville "justice" reaches the pussy-hats' areas of habituation and expands the anti-white movement towards its logical goal of trashing all whities since the white skin is a sign of racism. The situation in Baltimore is telling. If only the mob had the same enthusiasm for cleaning the trashy neighborhood's garbage and restoring the formerly beautiful buildings as it was shown for the destruction of government property.

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  171. @anarchyst
    I agree with you that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church HAS been compromised by outsiders--jews and protestants, BUT the traditional Catholic Church STILL exists with the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) that has rejected ALL of the 1960s "modernisms" that the Church was subject to. From recognizing jewish responsibility for Jesus Christ's crucifixion and death, to rejection of the "modern Mass", and the jewification and protestantization of Catholic doctrine, traditional Catholics DO have an outlet...
    I have no problem with the "universality" of the Catholic Church, as long as congregations of the various ethnic groups are permitted to establish their own Catholic communities, not unlike the situation in the early 20th century, in which various ethnic groups raised funds and built their own churches and congregations.
    As to the homosexual takeover of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church, that was engineered by bishops and priests of the "lavender lobby" which co-opted the seminary system, keeping out good (heterosexual) candidates for the priesthood while paving the way for their homosexual "buddies" to have access to a horribly perverted homosexual cabal within the Church. The mistake was accepting homosexual candidates for the priesthood merely by exacting a "promise" from them not to act on their homosexual tendencies. We know how well THAT worked out...
    The traditional pre-Vatican II Catholic Church, warts and all, STILL has validity in today's world.

    So you agree with me on racial/ethnic churches. OK. But there is only ONE RCC POPE. Would you accept a black/Asian pope?

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  172. iffen says:
    @Randal

    Blimey! (Is it correct to use that here?)
     
    I suppose so, from your perspective.


    For or against. What other sides could there be?
     
    Not very useful. So what constitutes the "for civilisation" side that you state that you favour?

    Evidently it doesn't include freedom of speech as a basic principle, based upon your reply to David above, nor therefore the US Constitution in its current form.

    2 x blimey! Do you equate your personal right-wing political views with civilization?
     
    I'm not the one claiming to be on the side of civilisation in a "war for civilisation", or at any rate not so far in this particular exchange.

    I am unashamed to be on the side of civilization. I had assumed that you would be too, but the more we comment the more I worry about you.
     
    Perhaps I am, but until you've explained what you mean by it there's no way to tell.

    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Yes, but it’s just as good for showing rightist hypocrisy. That was my question to you. We were already in agreement on leftist hypocrisy.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there… You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy

    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham state police power was turned against peaceful and lawful civil rights protesters in favor of semi-organized white mobs.
    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham, many, perhaps hundreds of black people lost their jobs in the private sector for joining the NAACP, marching in a lawful assembly, writing a letter to the editor expressing support for civil rights, and for other lawful civil rights activities.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?

    In 2017, in Charlottesville state police power was turned against a group that had the lawful right to assemble and in favor of violent antifas and (apparently) hired trouble makers.
    In 2017, people are fired all across academia and corporate America for exercising their right to free speech.

    Right-wingers say: that’s right! Left-wingers say: huh?

    I don’t understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don’t believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.

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    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.
     
    You seem to be determinedly ignoring my responses.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?
     
    Except no, "right-wingers" don't say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority of them, probably even a minority of those who went to the Charlottesville demo to protest the removal of a statue of Lee, whereas the vast majority of left-wingers and establishment so-called right-wingers, including the bulk of the mainstream media, politics, business and academe elites, do say "huh?" to the suggestion that abuse of state power was involved in the Charlottesville events.

    Can you not see the difference?

    As for the idea that there is an equivalent "rightist hypocrisy" for the tiny minority of right-wingers who would support Bull Connors' actions but complain about those of McAuliffe, far from being "oblivious", I specifically stated that two replies back.

    It's just not a significant factor in modern US society because the numbers are so small and the people so marginalised.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.
     
    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power? That there are some right-wingers who do so (though what that would have to do with me I don't understand)?
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  173. Harbinger says:
    @Stonehands
    Communist equalitarian propagandists posit that the great cultural inequality in the contributions of the various races is to be accounted for by the fact that the more advanced enjoyed "an unusual collection of fortunate circumstances."

    That is to say, no race comes to the top because it is more gifted or more masterful, but because it has "better luck."

    It does not win it's way, but somehow is given a more "favorable environment." As far as race itself is concerned, one is as good as another.

    Those who hold such views are often referred to as the "Franz Boas school."

    Franz Boas was born in Germany in 1858 of radical socialist Jewish parents. His education included no study of anthropology; how he got his Ph.D. appears to be something of a mystery.

    Nevertheless, by 1899 he became Professor of Anthropology at Columbia University, where for nearly 40 years he trained a great many students in his doctrine of so- called social or "cultural" anthropology, (((i.e. cultural Marxism, political correctness a la Frankfurt School))) which breaks with physical anthropology (and all past wisdom on the subject) in its teaching that the long- observed racial differences in feature, capability and character are due primarily to environment rather than to heredity.

    Selected students of Boas, given an aura of authority with PhD degrees, were placed decades ago at the head of anthropogy departments in leading universities, and given the concerted backing of press, radio, and later, TV, which freely published their pronouncements and refused a hearing to those who wanted to answer them.

    Thus, with the students whom they in turn raised up to become heads of university departments they have constituted that "cohesive propaganda group" which has been responsible, more than anything else, for putting almost the entire academic and intellectual life of the United States, and now ever increasingly, the political, and economic, social and religious life of the country as well, on an equalitarian foundation, with what the great mass of people take to be solid scientific backing.

    The conviction that all men are equal was the driving force behind the French Revolution, and it has been the driving force behind every social revolution (or attempt at social revolution) since then.

    It is of critical importance that this be understood, for it is the very essence of the acid which Communism pours upon every society it sets itself to destroy.

    The doctrine of equality will literally dissolve any society to which it is rigorously applied, for all social structure and soundness depend upon the recognition that men are not equal, that direction and leadership, without which a society can neither come into existence nor long endure, must come and can come only, from the few possesed of superior brains and personality.

    Stonehands,

    Thank you for that and yes, I very much know of Franz Boas or should I say Boasnian Anthropology.

    Your reply clearly shows, to any idiots that deny it, that all one has to do is put certain peoples, with certain viewpoints, into positions of influence within society in order to completely destroy it from within.

    The result, of course, has been the turning of the white race, once a proud race, that did so much good in this world, into a suicidal race, happily setting about sawing away at the branch, it happens to be sitting on, overlooking the abyss.

    It is people, like you, I and others on this forum, who join the dots. Where many see a blank page, we see pointillism, depicting reality.

    How many times have the peoples of the west been warned of this ‘cancer’ that eats away at our civilization from within? If it isn’t feminism and the civilizational murder, courtesy of ever decreasing birthrates and abortion, it’s white guilt, that sees nothing wrong in the mass immigration of aliens into their lands.

    And of course, Boas was merely one of many, of Marxist belief who set about the timebomb within western society.

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  174. anarchyst says:

    I don’t accept the pope we have now…

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    anarchyst, I will assume you're a male. I asked you a direct question. If men like to be direct, you must answer me. Would you accept a black/Asian priest-pope? The current pope is white. The answer is either yes or no.
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  175. Harbinger says:
    @Sowhat
    Great article and enlighfening comments from many and especially you at your age.
    Sir, I've really enjoyed your comments. I didn't expect to read a quote from Spurgeon, here. Very appropriate. I agree with your reasoning.
    Regarding the Goyim and Jewish lies, I first learned that their religious writings and many of their religious scholars consider gentiles less than dogs. It is perfectly acceptable for them to lie and deceive anyone outside their Faith if it a Jew benefits. In fact, I discovered many revelations at radioislam.com. that I never realized, previously, regarding all things jewish.
    Western Civilization is doomed. The U.S. in particular, will have a great fall. No one has guarded the hen house in a long time. I've always pictured the U.S. as "that great harlot, Babylon."

    Thank you Sowhat.

    People haven’t the foggiest of what’s going on, because they’re too busy staring at the fake wizard of Oz, while ignoring the man behind the curtain. It’s their wilful ignorance, to simply accept and not question that will result in their impending doom. It is completely brought about through their inactivity to be skeptical. They simply accept without question, transfixed with celebrity, sport, music, film and all other manner of distractions. We may be living in the 21st century, but we could just as well be living in Rome, happily distracted by the chariot races and the gladiatorial combat, while feasting on free bread, while the Emperor plots.

    Here in the UK, we are now living under Talmudism. Halacha law has now conquered common law. We no longer have freedom of speech. People are obsessed with celebrity. Pubs show football on TV screens, of which I do not, nor ever will own again. There is no intelligent discourse in pubs and if it does get political, it’s the usual left-right Hegelian dialectic, Socialism versus Conservatism, when they fail to see that there’s nothing socialist about socialism nor conservative about conservatism.

    I have to finish off by stating I am shocked at what I’m seeing happening in the USA. I was over there in 1991 and all the people I met were always so polite and courteous. It was such a shock to how people were here. And now BOOM! You are headed for civil war. In fact, so are we too I believe and the rest of Europe. It’s all been carefully concocted in the Jewish cauldron, who even when they’re found out, will still lie and manage to pull the wool over the eyes of the goyim. Your younger generations are utterly indoctrinated. I shake my head in disbelief when I see white people march with blacks who curse at white people. Never would blacks march with whites and let the same happen to their race. It’s disgusting.

    The truth will always set you free, but never has there been a need more than ever, to tell the truth than today. People must and face persecution in doing so. And as I always say to people; “I would far rather be hated, while being honest and true than be loved while being deceitful and false”.

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  176. Randal says:
    @iffen
    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.

    It’s another good example of leftist hypocrisy that they deplore the one but applaud the other.

    Yes, but it’s just as good for showing rightist hypocrisy. That was my question to you. We were already in agreement on leftist hypocrisy.

    But the equivalence you seem to desire is not there… You would never be forced to resign from a high profile corporate, celebrity or political position for saying that Bull Connors was a disgrace to humanity but Terry McAuliffe is an ok guy

    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham state police power was turned against peaceful and lawful civil rights protesters in favor of semi-organized white mobs.
    In the early 1960’s in Birmingham, many, perhaps hundreds of black people lost their jobs in the private sector for joining the NAACP, marching in a lawful assembly, writing a letter to the editor expressing support for civil rights, and for other lawful civil rights activities.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?

    In 2017, in Charlottesville state police power was turned against a group that had the lawful right to assemble and in favor of violent antifas and (apparently) hired trouble makers.
    In 2017, people are fired all across academia and corporate America for exercising their right to free speech.

    Right-wingers say: that’s right! Left-wingers say: huh?

    I don’t understand your point about not pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists who suddenly don’t believe in free speech now they are wearing the jackboots.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.

    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.

    You seem to be determinedly ignoring my responses.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?

    Except no, “right-wingers” don’t say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority of them, probably even a minority of those who went to the Charlottesville demo to protest the removal of a statue of Lee, whereas the vast majority of left-wingers and establishment so-called right-wingers, including the bulk of the mainstream media, politics, business and academe elites, do say “huh?” to the suggestion that abuse of state power was involved in the Charlottesville events.

    Can you not see the difference?

    As for the idea that there is an equivalent “rightist hypocrisy” for the tiny minority of right-wingers who would support Bull Connors’ actions but complain about those of McAuliffe, far from being “oblivious”, I specifically stated that two replies back.

    It’s just not a significant factor in modern US society because the numbers are so small and the people so marginalised.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.

    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power? That there are some right-wingers who do so (though what that would have to do with me I don’t understand)?

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    Except no, “right-wingers” don’t say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority

    Thanks to a lot of hard work on my part, I think we have discovered the main point of confusion.

    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.

    Can you not see the difference?

    No.

    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power?

    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.
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  177. Randal says:
    @Clark Westwood
    That quote is excellent evidence of what's going on. Part of the Dems' long game is to get the country to reinterpret the First Amendment such that it doesn't protect (so-called) "hate" speech. They are salivating at the thought of having European-style laws that criminalize Holocaust-denialism, "group" insults, etc.

    Here's another quote that reveals this goal, a truly nauseating tweet from mental midget Marco Rubio:

    When entire movement built on anger [and] hatred towards people different than you,it justifies [and] ultimately leads to violence against them
     
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/16/marco-rubio-posted-an-interesting-response-to-trumps-defiant-statement-on-racism/

    So long as and to the extent that the likes of Rubio are still elected as supposed “Republicans”, conservatives have no honest representation in the US.

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  178. annamaria says:
    @Clark Westwood
    That quote is excellent evidence of what's going on. Part of the Dems' long game is to get the country to reinterpret the First Amendment such that it doesn't protect (so-called) "hate" speech. They are salivating at the thought of having European-style laws that criminalize Holocaust-denialism, "group" insults, etc.

    Here's another quote that reveals this goal, a truly nauseating tweet from mental midget Marco Rubio:

    When entire movement built on anger [and] hatred towards people different than you,it justifies [and] ultimately leads to violence against them
     
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/16/marco-rubio-posted-an-interesting-response-to-trumps-defiant-statement-on-racism/

    The pussy-hats evolved into the violent anti-history pigs who have no idea that their beloved Obama the Fraud had authorized a coup d’etat in Ukraine in 2014, which brought to power the real neo-Nazis. There were dozens of people burnt alive in Odessa by the loyalists to Kiev’s junta in the same 2014; none of the murderers was punished and there was not a peep from Obama/Clinton administration.
    Neo-Nazis in Ukrainian government: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html
    Odessa massacre: http://theduran.com/remembering-the-odessa-massacre-2-may-2014/

    As for Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, John McCain (a personal friend of the influential neo-Nazis in Ukraine), and the criminal Karl Rove, shouldn’t they move to live among their favorite black people and antifas? … Neah… they want to live in their well-protected and very expensive white areas.
    Watch til the Charlottesville “justice” reaches the pussy-hats’ areas of habituation and expands the anti-white movement towards its logical goal of trashing all whities since the white skin is a sign of racism. The situation in Baltimore is telling. If only the mob had the same enthusiasm for cleaning the trashy neighborhood’s garbage and restoring the formerly beautiful buildings as it was shown for the destruction of government property.

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    This is excellent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan - MH17)

    Published on Jul 19, 2017

    Research & Editing by: Chris Nolan
    Subtitles by: Angelina Siard & Ollie Richardson
    All Sources Available at: http://www.watchdogmediainstitute.com
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  179. iffen says:
    @Randal

    I can’t tell if you are just yanking my chain for your own amusement or if you are sincere in your obliviousness.
     
    You seem to be determinedly ignoring my responses.

    Left-wingers say: that’s right! Right-wingers say: huh?
     
    Except no, "right-wingers" don't say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority of them, probably even a minority of those who went to the Charlottesville demo to protest the removal of a statue of Lee, whereas the vast majority of left-wingers and establishment so-called right-wingers, including the bulk of the mainstream media, politics, business and academe elites, do say "huh?" to the suggestion that abuse of state power was involved in the Charlottesville events.

    Can you not see the difference?

    As for the idea that there is an equivalent "rightist hypocrisy" for the tiny minority of right-wingers who would support Bull Connors' actions but complain about those of McAuliffe, far from being "oblivious", I specifically stated that two replies back.

    It's just not a significant factor in modern US society because the numbers are so small and the people so marginalised.

    See the above; I can’t think of any other way to put it.
     
    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power? That there are some right-wingers who do so (though what that would have to do with me I don't understand)?

    Except no, “right-wingers” don’t say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority

    Thanks to a lot of hard work on my part, I think we have discovered the main point of confusion.

    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.

    Can you not see the difference?

    No.

    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power?

    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.

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    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.
     
    OK, so you're just basing your ideas on fantasy nonsense. That explains the difficulty in making sense of what you've been writing.

    If you'd actually paid attention to what was written in replies to you, then it wouldn't have taken nearly as long to make that clear.

    So let's clarify it further; you actually believe that "the overwhelming majority if not the entirety" of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors' withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s (and all the other abuses you described above). Or perhaps you just mean to say it is "the overwhelming majority if not the entirety" of those on the march against the removal of the Lee statue (which is, of course, and represents, a tiny marginalised minority of the right-wing in the US).

    And you seek to set this as somehow equivalent in terms of the problems it creates for society to the virtual entirety of the political, media, business and academic establishments, and the entirety of the left and centre left and establishment right in the US who adhere to the leftist hypocrisy that Bull Connors was a monster but McAuliffe's an ok guy?

    Did you have to work hard to achieve that degree of separation from reality? Does it make you feel better somehow?


    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.
     
    Ok, in that case you are simply making stuff up.

    But regardless, to try to argue as you do that I supposedly have no standing to criticise leftist hypocrisy ion free speech because I supposedly would do just the same as them if I were in power is obviously the tu quoque fallacy.

    You do understand that, right?
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  180. helena says:
    @Stonehands
    Communist equalitarian propagandists posit that the great cultural inequality in the contributions of the various races is to be accounted for by the fact that the more advanced enjoyed "an unusual collection of fortunate circumstances."

    That is to say, no race comes to the top because it is more gifted or more masterful, but because it has "better luck."

    It does not win it's way, but somehow is given a more "favorable environment." As far as race itself is concerned, one is as good as another.

    Those who hold such views are often referred to as the "Franz Boas school."

    Franz Boas was born in Germany in 1858 of radical socialist Jewish parents. His education included no study of anthropology; how he got his Ph.D. appears to be something of a mystery.

    Nevertheless, by 1899 he became Professor of Anthropology at Columbia University, where for nearly 40 years he trained a great many students in his doctrine of so- called social or "cultural" anthropology, (((i.e. cultural Marxism, political correctness a la Frankfurt School))) which breaks with physical anthropology (and all past wisdom on the subject) in its teaching that the long- observed racial differences in feature, capability and character are due primarily to environment rather than to heredity.

    Selected students of Boas, given an aura of authority with PhD degrees, were placed decades ago at the head of anthropogy departments in leading universities, and given the concerted backing of press, radio, and later, TV, which freely published their pronouncements and refused a hearing to those who wanted to answer them.

    Thus, with the students whom they in turn raised up to become heads of university departments they have constituted that "cohesive propaganda group" which has been responsible, more than anything else, for putting almost the entire academic and intellectual life of the United States, and now ever increasingly, the political, and economic, social and religious life of the country as well, on an equalitarian foundation, with what the great mass of people take to be solid scientific backing.

    The conviction that all men are equal was the driving force behind the French Revolution, and it has been the driving force behind every social revolution (or attempt at social revolution) since then.

    It is of critical importance that this be understood, for it is the very essence of the acid which Communism pours upon every society it sets itself to destroy.

    The doctrine of equality will literally dissolve any society to which it is rigorously applied, for all social structure and soundness depend upon the recognition that men are not equal, that direction and leadership, without which a society can neither come into existence nor long endure, must come and can come only, from the few possesed of superior brains and personality.

    But communism is not egalitarian because it cannot exist without a ruling body to enforce ‘social equivalence’ on the population. Therefore, a ‘wedding cake’ model of society is preferable to a ‘pancake with a blob of cream on top’.

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  181. MarkinLA says:
    @David In TN
    Hitler was not "crazy" as such. I saw one of Hitler's doctors say on a A&E documentary, "He wasn't normal, but Hitler was not Mad."

    A military historian who specializes on the German WW II military felt a primary Hitler trait was "willful stupidity."

    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.

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    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.
     
    You don't think Hitler knew that? He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?

    Stalin had amassed a force of about 5 million men around Kiev and south along the Dnipr river. He was heavily fortifying them with tanks, airplanes, artillery, etc. They were all in offensive positions - and you do not need to rely on my statement for that, just look at the facts: the Battle of Kiev, which involved millions of fighters but ended in about 6 weeks. Compare the German attack of St. Petersburg, which started during the battle of Kiev and lasted for *years*. The difference was, St. Petersburg was defensively arranged.

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler's but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin's dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.
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  182. joe webb says:
    @Stonehands
    Communist equalitarian propagandists posit that the great cultural inequality in the contributions of the various races is to be accounted for by the fact that the more advanced enjoyed "an unusual collection of fortunate circumstances."

    That is to say, no race comes to the top because it is more gifted or more masterful, but because it has "better luck."

    It does not win it's way, but somehow is given a more "favorable environment." As far as race itself is concerned, one is as good as another.

    Those who hold such views are often referred to as the "Franz Boas school."

    Franz Boas was born in Germany in 1858 of radical socialist Jewish parents. His education included no study of anthropology; how he got his Ph.D. appears to be something of a mystery.

    Nevertheless, by 1899 he became Professor of Anthropology at Columbia University, where for nearly 40 years he trained a great many students in his doctrine of so- called social or "cultural" anthropology, (((i.e. cultural Marxism, political correctness a la Frankfurt School))) which breaks with physical anthropology (and all past wisdom on the subject) in its teaching that the long- observed racial differences in feature, capability and character are due primarily to environment rather than to heredity.

    Selected students of Boas, given an aura of authority with PhD degrees, were placed decades ago at the head of anthropogy departments in leading universities, and given the concerted backing of press, radio, and later, TV, which freely published their pronouncements and refused a hearing to those who wanted to answer them.

    Thus, with the students whom they in turn raised up to become heads of university departments they have constituted that "cohesive propaganda group" which has been responsible, more than anything else, for putting almost the entire academic and intellectual life of the United States, and now ever increasingly, the political, and economic, social and religious life of the country as well, on an equalitarian foundation, with what the great mass of people take to be solid scientific backing.

    The conviction that all men are equal was the driving force behind the French Revolution, and it has been the driving force behind every social revolution (or attempt at social revolution) since then.

    It is of critical importance that this be understood, for it is the very essence of the acid which Communism pours upon every society it sets itself to destroy.

    The doctrine of equality will literally dissolve any society to which it is rigorously applied, for all social structure and soundness depend upon the recognition that men are not equal, that direction and leadership, without which a society can neither come into existence nor long endure, must come and can come only, from the few possesed of superior brains and personality.

    good. the shortest and most effective gambit I have in talking to folks…is the Iceberg of the Ice Age, and how it wrecks the Titanic of race equality delusion.

    folks exposed s to several tens of thousands of years of snow and ice…and presto! Natural Selection prunes their genes for intelligence. Those in the bush…left in the bush. too bad.

    This is effective because it is an Environmental argument , just a real big long one. Let your interlocutor win one sort of…Good for their ego.. Also, the liberty , not the IQ argument , seems more effective. Folks are very nervous about IQ, in part cuz they start personalizing.

    Joe Webb

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  183. @anarchyst
    I don't accept the pope we have now...

    anarchyst, I will assume you’re a male. I asked you a direct question. If men like to be direct, you must answer me. Would you accept a black/Asian priest-pope? The current pope is white. The answer is either yes or no.

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    By not answering my question, you have answered it. You would obediently OSCULUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. You again prove my statement that the most dangerous person is the Caucasian RCC male cuck (and the Caucasian Zioevangizer male too). Until this cowardly creature is dealt with, no other problems can be solved.
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  184. RobinG says:
    @joe webb
    I just viewed a little bit of David Duke, I think on twitter....not good at computer skills. David looks like a beautiful girl...he must have been losing weight for some reason. His vanity is often referenced. I hear rumor that he has had a face lift or two. Soon one for Spencer too, or butt lift for his butt-buddies.

    He talks directly to Donald Trump, as if Trump were tuned in. This is remarkable. Is Duke delusional, and does he believe that he is having a kind of communication with him, or Him?''

    Duke also claimed that he had invented the phrase, make america great again. Let's say he did for discussion's sake. Does he want a thank you from Trump?.
    jack shit....

    Low talk for some low character. anybody who knows anything about HItler...he'd have sent them to the Russian front pdq.

    jack shit, actually knows jack shit and has no argument.. Hitler lost the War. Remember? Hitler never stepped out of Germany, never had much of an idea of the US, never, never....and while he had some great talents, he was the single greatest setback for White Nationalism.

    Hitler & company today....the single largest deficit of WN. The second biggest deficit of WN is that of any marginalized group or person...psychological distress and difficulty of maintaining a Normal state of mind.

    Reading The Odyssey, Homer. The gods tell Ulysses that they are not going to make it easy for him...it is going to be 19 years to get home...with a fair amount of suffering. Wanna be a hero? You don't get to feel great much of the time, actually most of the time. Family is first, then comrades.

    Spencer and Duke get to see their name in jewprint. shucks, jews and our other enemies don't even have to pay them....it is their egos, which would be ok more or less if Our People were praising them, but it is our Enemies who spell their names right. Disgusting. Any Greek would make short work of them.

    So let me make it perfectly clear...a long 19 year stretch , poetically understood. A lot of us killed, a lot of us unsung, but as Homer reminds...it is your families and friends and comrades.

    Huah! Joe Webb

    Hey Joe, you never know -

    Today Trump said he’s been studying on C’ville and violence was by both sides. So maybe he did catch a David Duke video. You are right that this was a major PR blunder by the WN, but if they make a court case against C’ville, the State Troopers, and the Gov., they should win.

    How come Code Pink, et al, can sit down or chain themselves to the WH fence or disrupt Congress and get considerately arrested, but Unite the Right was kicked and pushed into the AntiFa crowd?! I’ve never seen Richard Spencer before, but he doesn’t come off too bad in this video -

    What Really Happened in Charlottesville

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    Robin...right. I just sent Trump some dough . First since the election. He deserves to be supported now more than ever, despite his Evil doing.

    As for Spencer, you have to have followed him . I know him, etc. First, he is a limp wrister and a showman and a nazi , shall we say, temporizer, and more importantly, he is not much of a speaker and a weak debater.

    We need to be represented by tougher characters who seem at least to have their egos under control. That eliminates Duke too. Of course, jewyorktimes has elevated these guys...great copy.

    Joe Webb
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  185. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    The pussy-hats evolved into the violent anti-history pigs who have no idea that their beloved Obama the Fraud had authorized a coup d'etat in Ukraine in 2014, which brought to power the real neo-Nazis. There were dozens of people burnt alive in Odessa by the loyalists to Kiev's junta in the same 2014; none of the murderers was punished and there was not a peep from Obama/Clinton administration.
    Neo-Nazis in Ukrainian government: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html
    Odessa massacre: http://theduran.com/remembering-the-odessa-massacre-2-may-2014/

    As for Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, John McCain (a personal friend of the influential neo-Nazis in Ukraine), and the criminal Karl Rove, shouldn't they move to live among their favorite black people and antifas? ... Neah... they want to live in their well-protected and very expensive white areas.
    Watch til the Charlottesville "justice" reaches the pussy-hats' areas of habituation and expands the anti-white movement towards its logical goal of trashing all whities since the white skin is a sign of racism. The situation in Baltimore is telling. If only the mob had the same enthusiasm for cleaning the trashy neighborhood's garbage and restoring the formerly beautiful buildings as it was shown for the destruction of government property.

    This is excellent.


    8 Months in Ukraine (Euromaidan – MH17)

    Published on Jul 19, 2017

    Research & Editing by: Chris Nolan
    Subtitles by: Angelina Siard & Ollie Richardson
    All Sources Available at: http://www.watchdogmediainstitute.com

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    Reposting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
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  186. CalDre says:
    @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    I don’t get why you throw Duke into the mix. Maybe I’ve missed some of his speeches but I’ve watched quite a bit of him, mainly because he was the most demonized, and found him to less offensive than NutAndYahoo, who gets a standing ovation in Congress. Well, of course, the difference is that NutAndYahoo is a Jew supremacist, Duke is a separatist. Which is really what White Nationalism is at the core – a society for Whites.

    I’m not a supporter of White nationalism in the US since the US was founded as a multi-cultural society (at the time all of the European immigrants considered themselves a separate “race”, on top of that you had the slaves, the natives, etc. But what is happening to Europe is absolutely astounding.

    The Communist Merkel has made it clear her goal is to destroy Germany. First they implement “feminist” policies meant to strictly control reproduction, then they bring in hordes of uneducated aliens to cure the “lack of children”. WTF? How about not punish Germans for having children? How is it in the 1800s women could have 10 children without any of the modern conveniences and now they cannot even have 2, despite day care, kindergarten and loads of other state indoctrination centers, washing machines, irons, electricity, take-out food, etc., etc.? They want to “liberate” women from the horrors of childbirth and child rearing because working like a cog in some office means “career fulfillment?” Yet they are not imposing this aversion on childbirth on the millions of Africans and Arabs they are shipping in. No, they should reproduce “bigly”.

    No, Duke isn’t the nutter, Cantwell, on the other hand, is such an extreme idiot he has to be a plant; if not, the Bolsheviks sure lucked out, and they are going to give him all the coverage they can muster and paint him as the “symbol” of those who oppose Caucasian genocide.

    The “critical theory” school is a simple extension of economic Bolshevism. When the Elders of Zion realized they could not turn the worker against the capitalist, they decided to look for other grounds to stir up trouble. Hence every minority group is a “victim” of something or other. Of course there will always be minorities, even in Brave New World, so there is always a supply of people to convince they are oppressed and if they only follow these demonic chieftains they will attain “liberation”. Well we saw with the victory of Bolshevism what “liberation” means – “freedom is slavery”.

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    Caldre, you may be a European. Your " I’m not a supporter of White nationalism in the US since the US was founded as a multi-cultural society." is completely untrue. The US was totally British Isles founded and developed until about 1850.


    WE were founded as a White country, etc. See Fischer, Albion's Seed, a great read, and he Means Seed, as in genetic and he says so.

    As for Duke, it is his Past representations as KKK, etc. that have dogged him. Also , his present personal problematics make him unfit to represent American Whites.

    Then Spencer and the nazi and homosexual claptrap...similar.

    Joe Webb
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  187. CalDre says:
    @MarkinLA
    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser's two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.

    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.

    You don’t think Hitler knew that? He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?

    Stalin had amassed a force of about 5 million men around Kiev and south along the Dnipr river. He was heavily fortifying them with tanks, airplanes, artillery, etc. They were all in offensive positions – and you do not need to rely on my statement for that, just look at the facts: the Battle of Kiev, which involved millions of fighters but ended in about 6 weeks. Compare the German attack of St. Petersburg, which started during the battle of Kiev and lasted for *years*. The difference was, St. Petersburg was defensively arranged.

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler’s but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin’s dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.

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    I already heard that. What is the standard rule for attacking dug in defensive positions? I think it is 4 times the defending force to guarantee victory. If Germany digs in, builds a coalition with the other border states and spreads the superior German military technology to its allies, they would have nothing to worry about from the Red Army.
    , @Avery
    {You don’t think Hitler knew that?}

    No he didn't.
    His opinion of the Slavic Untermenschen was quite low to start with.
    And Red Army's disastrous Winter War with Finland cemented his low opinion of SU.
    And his opinion of his own infallibility was greatly boosted by the 46-day vanquish of France by the Wehrmacht. France had more and newer tanks; far more artillery pieces; and same number of troops/divisions. France was a great European military power in 1939, yet it lasted all of 46 days against the Nazi blitzkrieg.

    Germany was almost starved to death in WW1 by the Brit blockade, and Hitler, who was there, was determined not to let Germany have food vulnerability again.

    For sure Hitler's generals advised against invading SU, but Hitler's dream and goal since Day1 was Lebensraum in the East.

    "You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down, Adolf Hitler, June 1941." (just before Operation Barbarossa)

    {He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?}

    Quite true: he did not.
    He never wanted war with the Brits, whom he considered Anglo-Saxon kin.
    He tried to avoid a 2-front war, but his hand was forced when Britain and France declared war after Poland 39.

    Hitler could have satisfied himself with Sudetenland and Germany would be better off today.
    Today it is a guilt-ridden shell of its former self - thanks to Hitler - and being relentlessly Islamized.
    One more thing: you WW2 revisionists and Hitler apologists are wasting time trying to convince people Hitler was a misunderstood angel, while Germany - today - is being de-Germanized. If you guys care anything about Germany and German people, you will do something to stop its slow death today, instead of trying to re-write 70-year old history.

    , @peterAUS
    WHOAH........

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler’s but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin’s dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.
     
    Just not right to let this....nonsense...slide.

    Actually, it's so wrong on several levels that there is no point of even talking about it.
    Just......WRONG.

    Even alt-right can't get right (pun intended) about Hitler.
    There were some good things about the man and some bad things about the man.
    But this....100 good/bad is just........childish.
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  188. @annamaria
    Another story on the American history: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/08/15/america-propaganda-vanquished-truth/

    "Remember, when Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army, he declined on the grounds that he could not bring war to his own country, by which he meant Virginia.
    Lee’s army was the Army of Northern Virginia.
    As President Lincoln said over and over, the war is not about slavery. It is about “preserving the union,” that is, the empire. ... Lincoln did not free the slaves. Moreover, had Lincoln not been assassinated, his plan was to send the blacks, whom he regarded as inferior to whites, back to Africa. This is not a “conspiracy theory.” It is the documented fact. It is totally impossible to refute this documented fact. ...

    The first slaves were white slaves, but they died like flies from malaria and yellow fevor. Next indigenious Americans (“Indians”) were used as slaves, but they would not work. Then it was discovered that some Africans had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever, and finally a work force was located. The slaves were purchased from the African tribes that annually conducted warfare between themselves, the booty of which was slaves. Socialist historians, such as Karl Polanyi ... wrote detailed and exacting histories of the African slave trade conducted by black Africans. Confederate soldiers did not own slaves, and as every honest historian knows, they were not fighting for slavery. They were fighting, because their country had been invaded. ...

    In Durham, North Carolina, the seat of Duke University, a gang of largely white males destroyed public property by pulling down a statue of a Confederate soldier. Perhaps they took their cue from the neo-Nazis installed in Ukraine by Obama and Hillary following the US-engineered coup that overthrew the elected democratic government. The first thing the new Obama-installed neo-Nazi regime did was to pull down all the Soviet war memorials of the liberation of Ukraine from Nazi Germany. The neo-Nazis who pulled down the war memorials were the descendants of the Ukrainians who fought for Nazi Germany. These neo-Nazis comprise the government of the “democracy” that Obama and Hillary brought to the Ukraine and is the government that the US government and its European vassals support."

    You may be right about some Ukrainans but my understand is that characterising them all or mostly as Neo-Nazis and by descent from those who “fought for Nazi Germany”may be unfair to them or a large proportion. No doubt there were Ukrainians, as there were Latvians and Lithuanians who were as vicious to Jews as the brainwashed young Germans. But, that admitted, it simply didn’f follow that the Ukrainians who joined the Waffen SS Galician Division had anything much in common with Himmler’s SS. A learned Australian born Catholic of Ukrainian ancestry tells me that his young father, from what had bedn Hapsburg Galicia, served in the Galician Division in 1945 with the naive hope and expectation, shared by his fellow soldiers that, with Western support, they would be able to March on Moscow and throw off Soviet rule. So different was that division that it’s German commanding general arranged for it to have Ukrainian chaplains without letting Himmler or his staff know. My friend was married in Australia by a prìest who had himself served in the Galician division. None of that proves anything much except the need to expect and respect complexity in political and historical explanations.

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  189. Suppose I had to daily walk past a heroic (and aesthetically acceptable or better) statue of a judge who had notoriously mishandled the trial if six honest and innocent farmers, of whom my great grandfather was one, and sent them to the gallows?

    What’s to be done if one finds oneself riled by it?

    Destroy a piece of history? No. Bury the reminder and evidence of past wickedness? No. Move the statue? Well maybe but let’s consider the detail, especially if it left an aesthetic hole in a beautiful park.

    What about a discreet notice advising that, 15 metres away there is a video booth where one can see and listen to historians giving context añd depth and detail to the story behind the statue?

    Why don’t the civilised Right, Left and Centre get together to obtain 30 million signatures for something like that as the solution to the appearance of honour for the decidedly dishonourable. Surely a sensible antifa person (big assumption maybe) wouldn’t really want the reminder of evil white men’s power and fame to bè wiped out.

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    You actually believe that when these people claim to be motivated only by genuine heartfelt personal offence, that that's actually the truth? Seems remarkably naïve.

    The truth is that almost all such claims of offence are a political weapon, however much the perpetrators might have worked themselves up and convinced themselves of their own personal devastation.

    Nor do the political opportunists who exploit such weapons have the slightest interest in defusing conflict with the kind of reasonable compromise you naively put forward. The conflict is the whole basis by which they motivate their support base.

    You seek to appease, but the people you seek to appease will only interpret that as weakness and push further ahead.
    , @Harbinger
    Interesting analysis.
    Your solution is to destroy that which offends others. Quite the tolerant individual aren't you?

    So let's see...

    The statue of Lee offends people, because he was a confederate. Rip it down.
    The Dukes of Hazzard car is offensive to people because it represents racism. Destroy all General Lee, Dodge Chargers. In fact, destroy all cars made by Ford because he was obviously an anti semite, racist.
    The Coliseum in Rome, held gladiatorial games and the butcher of innocents. Rip it down.
    The pyramids in Egypt represent oppression over the people by the ruling elite. Rip them down.

    Do you see where your logic ends up? Yup, let's just get rid of everything that offends and then soon, other than living within a society, that technically isn't a society, of a flat landscape because housing will certainly offend someone, we start getting rid of people who offend us because they don't use the proper gender pronoun, are fat, smell, have bad teeth, wear fashionable/unfashionable clothes, have red/brown/yellow hair......and so on.

    'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' and it epitomizes the left overwhelmingly, in their desire to get rid of the very things that make us human - emotion.

    Seriously, reading the rhetoric of people like you is on a par with watching a Monty Python. It's like the Stan-Loretta sketch from Life of Brian. And sadly, this is now reality!!!!
    You simply don't get it. You are all authoritarians, demanding what you want and believe to be right, over the wants and wishes of others.
    The left wants to simply get rid of the right, but fails to see that the right is the benchmark of reality. It is humanity's litmus test. The left on the other hand is the insanity of the human mind that's escaped the lunatic asylum, no better illustrated in the ramblings of Karl Marx, Bernard Shaw and Russell (amongst many)in their writings.

    , @Harbinger
    Wizard of Oz,

    It's a pity you never read what I had to write, because had you, you would have seen that you should never give into people who are offended by whatever in life.
    You never capitulate to emotionally challenged individuals or else you may as well just give up on civilization.
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  190. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Except no, “right-wingers” don’t say that, except for a tiny marginalised minority

    Thanks to a lot of hard work on my part, I think we have discovered the main point of confusion.

    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.

    Can you not see the difference?

    No.

    Are you trying to say that I advocate free speech only whilst my side is out of power?

    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.

    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.

    OK, so you’re just basing your ideas on fantasy nonsense. That explains the difficulty in making sense of what you’ve been writing.

    If you’d actually paid attention to what was written in replies to you, then it wouldn’t have taken nearly as long to make that clear.

    So let’s clarify it further; you actually believe that “the overwhelming majority if not the entirety” of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors’ withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s (and all the other abuses you described above). Or perhaps you just mean to say it is “the overwhelming majority if not the entirety” of those on the march against the removal of the Lee statue (which is, of course, and represents, a tiny marginalised minority of the right-wing in the US).

    And you seek to set this as somehow equivalent in terms of the problems it creates for society to the virtual entirety of the political, media, business and academic establishments, and the entirety of the left and centre left and establishment right in the US who adhere to the leftist hypocrisy that Bull Connors was a monster but McAuliffe’s an ok guy?

    Did you have to work hard to achieve that degree of separation from reality? Does it make you feel better somehow?

    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.

    Ok, in that case you are simply making stuff up.

    But regardless, to try to argue as you do that I supposedly have no standing to criticise leftist hypocrisy ion free speech because I supposedly would do just the same as them if I were in power is obviously the tu quoque fallacy.

    You do understand that, right?

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    So let’s clarify it further; you actually believe that “the overwhelming majority if not the entirety” of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors’ withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s

    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.

    equivalent in terms of the problems

    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.

    obviously the tu quoque fallacy. You do understand that, right?

    Did not know this. Thanks.

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.

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  191. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Suppose I had to daily walk past a heroic (and aesthetically acceptable or better) statue of a judge who had notoriously mishandled the trial if six honest and innocent farmers, of whom my great grandfather was one, and sent them to the gallows?

    What's to be done if one finds oneself riled by it?

    Destroy a piece of history? No. Bury the reminder and evidence of past wickedness? No. Move the statue? Well maybe but let's consider the detail, especially if it left an aesthetic hole in a beautiful park.

    What about a discreet notice advising that, 15 metres away there is a video booth where one can see and listen to historians giving context añd depth and detail to the story behind the statue?

    Why don't the civilised Right, Left and Centre get together to obtain 30 million signatures for something like that as the solution to the appearance of honour for the decidedly dishonourable. Surely a sensible antifa person (big assumption maybe) wouldn't really want the reminder of evil white men's power and fame to bè wiped out.

    You actually believe that when these people claim to be motivated only by genuine heartfelt personal offence, that that’s actually the truth? Seems remarkably naïve.

    The truth is that almost all such claims of offence are a political weapon, however much the perpetrators might have worked themselves up and convinced themselves of their own personal devastation.

    Nor do the political opportunists who exploit such weapons have the slightest interest in defusing conflict with the kind of reasonable compromise you naively put forward. The conflict is the whole basis by which they motivate their support base.

    You seek to appease, but the people you seek to appease will only interpret that as weakness and push further ahead.

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    You may be right but I suggest that the outcome would depend much more in the public arena, where it counts, on the firmness of character and strength of intellect of the mayor or museum director or university president who suggested the course I propose. Indeed I would hope they wouldn't adopt the pathetic apologetic approach that is too often seen but rather the iron fist in the velvet glove with descriptions of the would be removers as ignorant vandals after a brief acknowledgment that they have the right to draw attention to aspects of those honoured that we would not now want to take them as promoting. There are a few good rhetorical questions which should make the snowflakes appear to be what they are.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    In short it is not persuasion of the enemy but defeat of them at the bar of oublic opinion that you seek.

    Even pretty dim readers and listeners can understand simple arguments like " do these people really want to destroy our past? They point to much that now seems bad, even a crime. Do they want to destroy the reminders of the crime? Do they want to leave us pretending that only good people made our past? No, if there is shame let it be expressed, let it be clear what it is about: just let us make sure that our children can get a 21st century understanding of the way we eere, how we got here and what those memorials from the past tell us. Ignorance is not bliss".
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  192. @CCZ
    The left has the green light to go full Cultural Revolution.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZXKOdTjQE

    Perfectly stated.

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  193. iffen says:
    @Randal

    It is not a marginalized minority; it is the overwhelming majority if not entirety.
     
    OK, so you're just basing your ideas on fantasy nonsense. That explains the difficulty in making sense of what you've been writing.

    If you'd actually paid attention to what was written in replies to you, then it wouldn't have taken nearly as long to make that clear.

    So let's clarify it further; you actually believe that "the overwhelming majority if not the entirety" of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors' withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s (and all the other abuses you described above). Or perhaps you just mean to say it is "the overwhelming majority if not the entirety" of those on the march against the removal of the Lee statue (which is, of course, and represents, a tiny marginalised minority of the right-wing in the US).

    And you seek to set this as somehow equivalent in terms of the problems it creates for society to the virtual entirety of the political, media, business and academic establishments, and the entirety of the left and centre left and establishment right in the US who adhere to the leftist hypocrisy that Bull Connors was a monster but McAuliffe's an ok guy?

    Did you have to work hard to achieve that degree of separation from reality? Does it make you feel better somehow?


    Yes, and your fellow travelers do the same.
     
    Ok, in that case you are simply making stuff up.

    But regardless, to try to argue as you do that I supposedly have no standing to criticise leftist hypocrisy ion free speech because I supposedly would do just the same as them if I were in power is obviously the tu quoque fallacy.

    You do understand that, right?

    So let’s clarify it further; you actually believe that “the overwhelming majority if not the entirety” of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors’ withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s

    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.

    equivalent in terms of the problems

    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.

    obviously the tu quoque fallacy. You do understand that, right?

    Did not know this. Thanks.

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.

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    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.
     
    So basically it's your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right - ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/"Never Trumper" types) - would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    As I noted, you are delusional on this.


    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.
     
    None of which I have disagreed with at any time.

    All I've done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.


    Did not know this. Thanks.
     
    You're welcome. Did you really not know it?

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.
     
    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    By the way, you never did set out the ways in which you are "for Civilisation" in the war you think is proceeding. Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

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  194. Randal says:
    @iffen
    So let’s clarify it further; you actually believe that “the overwhelming majority if not the entirety” of the right-wing in the US would say that there was nothing wrong in Bull Connors’ withholding police protection from black civil rights campaigners in the 1960s

    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.

    equivalent in terms of the problems

    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.

    obviously the tu quoque fallacy. You do understand that, right?

    Did not know this. Thanks.

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.

    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.

    So basically it’s your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right – ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/”Never Trumper” types) – would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    As I noted, you are delusional on this.

    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.

    None of which I have disagreed with at any time.

    All I’ve done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.

    Did not know this. Thanks.

    You’re welcome. Did you really not know it?

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.

    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    By the way, you never did set out the ways in which you are “for Civilisation” in the war you think is proceeding. Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

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    So basically it’s your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right – ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/”Never Trumper” types) – would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”

    However, the equation of Trump voter equals “genuine” right is grossly inaccurate. I voted for Trump.

    All I’ve done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.

    You’re welcome. Did you really not know it?

    Not a glimmer of recognition. I am not ashamed to admit that I did not know everything yesterday.

    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    Okay, but it’s not really absurd, but, never mind.

    Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.
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  195. MarkinLA says:
    @CalDre

    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.
     
    You don't think Hitler knew that? He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?

    Stalin had amassed a force of about 5 million men around Kiev and south along the Dnipr river. He was heavily fortifying them with tanks, airplanes, artillery, etc. They were all in offensive positions - and you do not need to rely on my statement for that, just look at the facts: the Battle of Kiev, which involved millions of fighters but ended in about 6 weeks. Compare the German attack of St. Petersburg, which started during the battle of Kiev and lasted for *years*. The difference was, St. Petersburg was defensively arranged.

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler's but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin's dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.

    I already heard that. What is the standard rule for attacking dug in defensive positions? I think it is 4 times the defending force to guarantee victory. If Germany digs in, builds a coalition with the other border states and spreads the superior German military technology to its allies, they would have nothing to worry about from the Red Army.

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    If Germany digs in, builds a coalition with the other border states and spreads the superior German military technology to its allies, they would have nothing to worry about from the Red Army
     
    Digging in doesn't protect all of Europe. Even if Germany could have saved, say, Berlin, the Red Army could have swarmed through the rest of Europe, and the rest of Germany.

    And in terms of spreading technology, you seem to forget that Germany was at war with a good part of Europe already. Moreover there wasn't much time - from "spreading technology" to having weapons on the battlefield with men trained to use them would take far longer than the Red Army marching a few hundred kilometers.

    Even post-war all of NATO did not think they could withstand a Red Army conventional assault and hence they adopted their nuclear doctrine of "Massive Retaliation” – i.e. if USSR attacked with conventional forces, NATO would defend with tactical nuclear weapons. Again, not only did Germany not have nuclear weapons, it was also fighting on its Eastern flank, rather than have a combined NATO army.
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  196. Harbinger says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Suppose I had to daily walk past a heroic (and aesthetically acceptable or better) statue of a judge who had notoriously mishandled the trial if six honest and innocent farmers, of whom my great grandfather was one, and sent them to the gallows?

    What's to be done if one finds oneself riled by it?

    Destroy a piece of history? No. Bury the reminder and evidence of past wickedness? No. Move the statue? Well maybe but let's consider the detail, especially if it left an aesthetic hole in a beautiful park.

    What about a discreet notice advising that, 15 metres away there is a video booth where one can see and listen to historians giving context añd depth and detail to the story behind the statue?

    Why don't the civilised Right, Left and Centre get together to obtain 30 million signatures for something like that as the solution to the appearance of honour for the decidedly dishonourable. Surely a sensible antifa person (big assumption maybe) wouldn't really want the reminder of evil white men's power and fame to bè wiped out.

    Interesting analysis.
    Your solution is to destroy that which offends others. Quite the tolerant individual aren’t you?

    So let’s see…

    The statue of Lee offends people, because he was a confederate. Rip it down.
    The Dukes of Hazzard car is offensive to people because it represents racism. Destroy all General Lee, Dodge Chargers. In fact, destroy all cars made by Ford because he was obviously an anti semite, racist.
    The Coliseum in Rome, held gladiatorial games and the butcher of innocents. Rip it down.
    The pyramids in Egypt represent oppression over the people by the ruling elite. Rip them down.

    Do you see where your logic ends up? Yup, let’s just get rid of everything that offends and then soon, other than living within a society, that technically isn’t a society, of a flat landscape because housing will certainly offend someone, we start getting rid of people who offend us because they don’t use the proper gender pronoun, are fat, smell, have bad teeth, wear fashionable/unfashionable clothes, have red/brown/yellow hair……and so on.

    ‘The road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and it epitomizes the left overwhelmingly, in their desire to get rid of the very things that make us human – emotion.

    Seriously, reading the rhetoric of people like you is on a par with watching a Monty Python. It’s like the Stan-Loretta sketch from Life of Brian. And sadly, this is now reality!!!!
    You simply don’t get it. You are all authoritarians, demanding what you want and believe to be right, over the wants and wishes of others.
    The left wants to simply get rid of the right, but fails to see that the right is the benchmark of reality. It is humanity’s litmus test. The left on the other hand is the insanity of the human mind that’s escaped the lunatic asylum, no better illustrated in the ramblings of Karl Marx, Bernard Shaw and Russell (amongst many)in their writings.

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    "your solution is to destroy...". At that pount I gave up reading as it was perfectly clear that,if you are not either illiterate or abysmally stupid, you hadn't readvwhat I wrote.

    My solution aims to put the vandals on the back foot in the lublic relations battle.
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  197. iffen says:
    @Randal

    Right wingers beginning with Hitler worshipers and ending before the McClain, Dreher, NR, Flake, Graham, Rubio block.
     
    So basically it's your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right - ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/"Never Trumper" types) - would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    As I noted, you are delusional on this.


    Didn’t say anything about this, just pointed out that this is not the first time that Americans have lost their jobs for expressing unpopular political beliefs, nor is this the first time that the police power has been abused in favor of one group and against another.
     
    None of which I have disagreed with at any time.

    All I've done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.


    Did not know this. Thanks.
     
    You're welcome. Did you really not know it?

    You know about the tu quoque fallacy, but 1960’s American history is big blank space. Interesting.
     
    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    By the way, you never did set out the ways in which you are "for Civilisation" in the war you think is proceeding. Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

    So basically it’s your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right – ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/”Never Trumper” types) – would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”

    However, the equation of Trump voter equals “genuine” right is grossly inaccurate. I voted for Trump.

    All I’ve done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.

    You’re welcome. Did you really not know it?

    Not a glimmer of recognition. I am not ashamed to admit that I did not know everything yesterday.

    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    Okay, but it’s not really absurd, but, never mind.

    Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.

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    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”
     
    Clearly we have a profound difference of opinion on that, but since it's not really capable of easy resolution I suppose it will just have to rest there.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.
     
    You mean exactly as I stated it was not always so quite a few posts back?

    In fact, it's inherent in my comments about their stance on freedom of speech, for instance, that they have changed their position precisely because they are now the ones with the power and are able to use all the repressive methods they decried as monstrous back when they were out of power.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.
     
    As excuses go, that isn't even internally consistent.

    You were the one who declared himself favourably impressed with Gottfried's formulation that there is a "war for Civilisation" going on. I have made no comment on my own position about civilisation, only that I don't know which side I would be on in such a war until I know what you (and perhaps Gottfried) mean by it.

    There's surely no unduly particular "heayy lifting" involved in just stating what you broadly believe in as the basic principles of the side of Civilisation in this current war, especially as you are so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.
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  198. Avery says:
    @CalDre

    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.
     
    You don't think Hitler knew that? He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?

    Stalin had amassed a force of about 5 million men around Kiev and south along the Dnipr river. He was heavily fortifying them with tanks, airplanes, artillery, etc. They were all in offensive positions - and you do not need to rely on my statement for that, just look at the facts: the Battle of Kiev, which involved millions of fighters but ended in about 6 weeks. Compare the German attack of St. Petersburg, which started during the battle of Kiev and lasted for *years*. The difference was, St. Petersburg was defensively arranged.

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler's but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin's dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.

    {You don’t think Hitler knew that?}

    No he didn’t.
    His opinion of the Slavic Untermenschen was quite low to start with.
    And Red Army’s disastrous Winter War with Finland cemented his low opinion of SU.
    And his opinion of his own infallibility was greatly boosted by the 46-day vanquish of France by the Wehrmacht. France had more and newer tanks; far more artillery pieces; and same number of troops/divisions. France was a great European military power in 1939, yet it lasted all of 46 days against the Nazi blitzkrieg.

    Germany was almost starved to death in WW1 by the Brit blockade, and Hitler, who was there, was determined not to let Germany have food vulnerability again.

    For sure Hitler’s generals advised against invading SU, but Hitler’s dream and goal since Day1 was Lebensraum in the East.

    “You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down, Adolf Hitler, June 1941.” (just before Operation Barbarossa)

    {He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?}

    Quite true: he did not.
    He never wanted war with the Brits, whom he considered Anglo-Saxon kin.
    He tried to avoid a 2-front war, but his hand was forced when Britain and France declared war after Poland 39.

    Hitler could have satisfied himself with Sudetenland and Germany would be better off today.
    Today it is a guilt-ridden shell of its former self – thanks to Hitler – and being relentlessly Islamized.
    One more thing: you WW2 revisionists and Hitler apologists are wasting time trying to convince people Hitler was a misunderstood angel, while Germany – today – is being de-Germanized. If you guys care anything about Germany and German people, you will do something to stop its slow death today, instead of trying to re-write 70-year old history.

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    "Hitler’s dream and goal since Day1 was Lebensraum in the East." Right, much like a century earlier the dream was "Lebensraum in the West" (the Americas). The protagonists then also did not have a high opinion of the natives, though Hitler's view of Slavs was far more nuanced - mainly he disdained the Slavs because, in his view, they had allowed themselves to be enslaved by Jews (Bolsheviks). Interestingly the population density of Russia in 1940 and US in 1750 were about the same.

    Nonetheless, do you have evidence for your extremely counter-intuitive claim that Hitler thought it was desirable to attack USSR while fighting a great chunk of Europe on the western flank?

    "Hitler’s generals advised against invading SU". Well there were many generals. Which ones, when, and what did they say? "Received wisdom" is mostly wrong on WW II.

    "Today it is a guilt-ridden shell of its former self – thanks to Hitler – and being relentlessly Islamized." No, not thanks to Hitler, thanks to the lies perpetrated about Hitler and the Nazis, particularly the Holohoax. What the Germans did in WW II was no different from what the other warring powers were doing - Allies were firebombing cities, US rounded up Japanese, etc. And, no, I don't believe in the gassing nonsense, but that is where the lies part comes in.

    Reason Germany is being Islamized is more due to the fact that Germany lost and has been a US vassal ever since, and US is controlled by neo-Bolsheviks who are trying to destroy Caucasians. I doubt the outcome would have been different had Hitler not invaded Poland - eventually he would have died and the global oligarchs seized control (assuming that Hitler wasn't one of their (witting or unwitting) agents, which isn't clear in itself).
    , @Uebersetzer
    Perhaps further down the road Hitler thought the USSR might be a threat, but the view expressed here is the correct one - the Nazis thought one vigorous kick would bring down the Soviet Union. The poor Red Army performance in the Winter War was noticed, and the whole Nazi ideological set-up was that the Soviet Union was a mishmash of subhuman Slavs barely capable of making a plough function, much less a tank, watched over by a tyrannous ruling class of Bolshevik Jews. Throw in the swift collapse of the better-regarded French in the West and the British retreat at Dunkirk and as far as Hitler was concerned, the East was easy pickings. Only neo-Nazis believe or pretend to believe that Hitler was saving us all from the Red jackboot. He attacked because he was expecting a swift victory.
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  199. @Randal
    You actually believe that when these people claim to be motivated only by genuine heartfelt personal offence, that that's actually the truth? Seems remarkably naïve.

    The truth is that almost all such claims of offence are a political weapon, however much the perpetrators might have worked themselves up and convinced themselves of their own personal devastation.

    Nor do the political opportunists who exploit such weapons have the slightest interest in defusing conflict with the kind of reasonable compromise you naively put forward. The conflict is the whole basis by which they motivate their support base.

    You seek to appease, but the people you seek to appease will only interpret that as weakness and push further ahead.

    You may be right but I suggest that the outcome would depend much more in the public arena, where it counts, on the firmness of character and strength of intellect of the mayor or museum director or university president who suggested the course I propose. Indeed I would hope they wouldn’t adopt the pathetic apologetic approach that is too often seen but rather the iron fist in the velvet glove with descriptions of the would be removers as ignorant vandals after a brief acknowledgment that they have the right to draw attention to aspects of those honoured that we would not now want to take them as promoting. There are a few good rhetorical questions which should make the snowflakes appear to be what they are.

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  200. @Harbinger
    Interesting analysis.
    Your solution is to destroy that which offends others. Quite the tolerant individual aren't you?

    So let's see...

    The statue of Lee offends people, because he was a confederate. Rip it down.
    The Dukes of Hazzard car is offensive to people because it represents racism. Destroy all General Lee, Dodge Chargers. In fact, destroy all cars made by Ford because he was obviously an anti semite, racist.
    The Coliseum in Rome, held gladiatorial games and the butcher of innocents. Rip it down.
    The pyramids in Egypt represent oppression over the people by the ruling elite. Rip them down.

    Do you see where your logic ends up? Yup, let's just get rid of everything that offends and then soon, other than living within a society, that technically isn't a society, of a flat landscape because housing will certainly offend someone, we start getting rid of people who offend us because they don't use the proper gender pronoun, are fat, smell, have bad teeth, wear fashionable/unfashionable clothes, have red/brown/yellow hair......and so on.

    'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' and it epitomizes the left overwhelmingly, in their desire to get rid of the very things that make us human - emotion.

    Seriously, reading the rhetoric of people like you is on a par with watching a Monty Python. It's like the Stan-Loretta sketch from Life of Brian. And sadly, this is now reality!!!!
    You simply don't get it. You are all authoritarians, demanding what you want and believe to be right, over the wants and wishes of others.
    The left wants to simply get rid of the right, but fails to see that the right is the benchmark of reality. It is humanity's litmus test. The left on the other hand is the insanity of the human mind that's escaped the lunatic asylum, no better illustrated in the ramblings of Karl Marx, Bernard Shaw and Russell (amongst many)in their writings.

    “your solution is to destroy…”. At that pount I gave up reading as it was perfectly clear that,if you are not either illiterate or abysmally stupid, you hadn’t readvwhat I wrote.

    My solution aims to put the vandals on the back foot in the lublic relations battle.

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  201. iffen says:

    On topic.

    Do we know the answers to any of the following with any degree of certainty?

    Did the UTR people have to run a gauntlet of antifas in order to get to Emancipation Park?

    If the antifas had permits for two other parks, why were they allowed to demonstrate at Emancipation Park?

    The police cleared Emancipation Park thereby pushing the UTR into the antifa mob.

    Why was the decision made to clear the Park? Were UTR people rioting among themselves, if not, where did the rioters come from? Why were the anitfas not prohibited from entering the park?

    Is it true that a rent-a-mob was part of the equation?

    If rioting was so bad that the park had to be cleared, why were there only three people arrested?

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  202. @Randal
    You actually believe that when these people claim to be motivated only by genuine heartfelt personal offence, that that's actually the truth? Seems remarkably naïve.

    The truth is that almost all such claims of offence are a political weapon, however much the perpetrators might have worked themselves up and convinced themselves of their own personal devastation.

    Nor do the political opportunists who exploit such weapons have the slightest interest in defusing conflict with the kind of reasonable compromise you naively put forward. The conflict is the whole basis by which they motivate their support base.

    You seek to appease, but the people you seek to appease will only interpret that as weakness and push further ahead.

    In short it is not persuasion of the enemy but defeat of them at the bar of oublic opinion that you seek.

    Even pretty dim readers and listeners can understand simple arguments like ” do these people really want to destroy our past? They point to much that now seems bad, even a crime. Do they want to destroy the reminders of the crime? Do they want to leave us pretending that only good people made our past? No, if there is shame let it be expressed, let it be clear what it is about: just let us make sure that our children can get a 21st century understanding of the way we eere, how we got here and what those memorials from the past tell us. Ignorance is not bliss”.

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  203. joe webb says:
    @CalDre
    I don't get why you throw Duke into the mix. Maybe I've missed some of his speeches but I've watched quite a bit of him, mainly because he was the most demonized, and found him to less offensive than NutAndYahoo, who gets a standing ovation in Congress. Well, of course, the difference is that NutAndYahoo is a Jew supremacist, Duke is a separatist. Which is really what White Nationalism is at the core - a society for Whites.

    I'm not a supporter of White nationalism in the US since the US was founded as a multi-cultural society (at the time all of the European immigrants considered themselves a separate "race", on top of that you had the slaves, the natives, etc. But what is happening to Europe is absolutely astounding.

    The Communist Merkel has made it clear her goal is to destroy Germany. First they implement "feminist" policies meant to strictly control reproduction, then they bring in hordes of uneducated aliens to cure the "lack of children". WTF? How about not punish Germans for having children? How is it in the 1800s women could have 10 children without any of the modern conveniences and now they cannot even have 2, despite day care, kindergarten and loads of other state indoctrination centers, washing machines, irons, electricity, take-out food, etc., etc.? They want to "liberate" women from the horrors of childbirth and child rearing because working like a cog in some office means "career fulfillment?" Yet they are not imposing this aversion on childbirth on the millions of Africans and Arabs they are shipping in. No, they should reproduce "bigly".

    No, Duke isn't the nutter, Cantwell, on the other hand, is such an extreme idiot he has to be a plant; if not, the Bolsheviks sure lucked out, and they are going to give him all the coverage they can muster and paint him as the "symbol" of those who oppose Caucasian genocide.

    The "critical theory" school is a simple extension of economic Bolshevism. When the Elders of Zion realized they could not turn the worker against the capitalist, they decided to look for other grounds to stir up trouble. Hence every minority group is a "victim" of something or other. Of course there will always be minorities, even in Brave New World, so there is always a supply of people to convince they are oppressed and if they only follow these demonic chieftains they will attain "liberation". Well we saw with the victory of Bolshevism what "liberation" means - "freedom is slavery".

    Caldre, you may be a European. Your ” I’m not a supporter of White nationalism in the US since the US was founded as a multi-cultural society.” is completely untrue. The US was totally British Isles founded and developed until about 1850.

    WE were founded as a White country, etc. See Fischer, Albion’s Seed, a great read, and he Means Seed, as in genetic and he says so.

    As for Duke, it is his Past representations as KKK, etc. that have dogged him. Also , his present personal problematics make him unfit to represent American Whites.

    Then Spencer and the nazi and homosexual claptrap…similar.

    Joe Webb

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    " The US was totally British Isles founded and developed until about 1850". That's completely false.

    First of all there were obviously Native Americans - at least, the ones that weren't killed by the European invaders.

    Second there were lots of slaves in 1850, and even before the US declared independence. In 1850 the Census puts them at about 12% of the population.

    Third there were many Mexicans in the parts of US conquered during the Mexican-American war (which of course was not part of US in 1850 but these people were living there in 1850).

    Fourth Asian immigration started in the 1830s and was quite far along by the 1850s (mainly working in mining and the railroad).

    And why arbitrarily pick 1850 out of your butt? Because you thought that was the peak of European population density? US wasn't even a complete country at that time - it didn't become one until Alaskan statehood in 1959. And so it wasn't "founded" until then. (Note the two latest additions, Hawaii and Alaska, both had relatively large non-European populations).

    Open borders with Mexico and the like are definitely changing the "make-up" of the US, but, from the beginning, it was a mixed bag, even if the Europeans were supremacists who severely oppressed the other groups here.
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  204. Randal says:
    @iffen
    So basically it’s your opinion that all or virtually all people on the genuine right – ie most of the almost half the US electorate who voted for Trump (against the desperate opposition of the McCain/NR/Rubio/”Never Trumper” types) – would argue that Bull Connor did nothing wrong?

    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”

    However, the equation of Trump voter equals “genuine” right is grossly inaccurate. I voted for Trump.

    All I’ve done is pointed out that the problem today is leftist hypocrisy, because they are the ones today with the power and the evident willingness to get people sacked, blacklisted, beaten, and harassed by the police for trying to stand up for their beliefs.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.

    You’re welcome. Did you really not know it?

    Not a glimmer of recognition. I am not ashamed to admit that I did not know everything yesterday.

    Please do try to avoid more absurd hyperbole.

    Okay, but it’s not really absurd, but, never mind.

    Easier to attack and knock down than to actually argue for something, I suppose.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.

    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”

    Clearly we have a profound difference of opinion on that, but since it’s not really capable of easy resolution I suppose it will just have to rest there.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.

    You mean exactly as I stated it was not always so quite a few posts back?

    In fact, it’s inherent in my comments about their stance on freedom of speech, for instance, that they have changed their position precisely because they are now the ones with the power and are able to use all the repressive methods they decried as monstrous back when they were out of power.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.

    As excuses go, that isn’t even internally consistent.

    You were the one who declared himself favourably impressed with Gottfried’s formulation that there is a “war for Civilisation” going on. I have made no comment on my own position about civilisation, only that I don’t know which side I would be on in such a war until I know what you (and perhaps Gottfried) mean by it.

    There’s surely no unduly particular “heayy lifting” involved in just stating what you broadly believe in as the basic principles of the side of Civilisation in this current war, especially as you are so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.

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    so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.

    Am I the only one that has to restrain hyperbole?
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  205. joe webb says:
    @RobinG
    Hey Joe, you never know -

    Today Trump said he's been studying on C'ville and violence was by both sides. So maybe he did catch a David Duke video. You are right that this was a major PR blunder by the WN, but if they make a court case against C'ville, the State Troopers, and the Gov., they should win.

    How come Code Pink, et al, can sit down or chain themselves to the WH fence or disrupt Congress and get considerately arrested, but Unite the Right was kicked and pushed into the AntiFa crowd?! I've never seen Richard Spencer before, but he doesn't come off too bad in this video -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSOoh_bbvwU
    What Really Happened in Charlottesville

    Robin…right. I just sent Trump some dough . First since the election. He deserves to be supported now more than ever, despite his Evil doing.

    As for Spencer, you have to have followed him . I know him, etc. First, he is a limp wrister and a showman and a nazi , shall we say, temporizer, and more importantly, he is not much of a speaker and a weak debater.

    We need to be represented by tougher characters who seem at least to have their egos under control. That eliminates Duke too. Of course, jewyorktimes has elevated these guys…great copy.

    Joe Webb

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  206. iffen says:
    @Randal

    Basically yes. Maybe not all would say, “nothing wrong”, maybe some would agree to a “little wrong.”
     
    Clearly we have a profound difference of opinion on that, but since it's not really capable of easy resolution I suppose it will just have to rest there.

    True. Just would like for you to be able to see that it was not always so.
     
    You mean exactly as I stated it was not always so quite a few posts back?

    In fact, it's inherent in my comments about their stance on freedom of speech, for instance, that they have changed their position precisely because they are now the ones with the power and are able to use all the repressive methods they decried as monstrous back when they were out of power.

    True enough, but I really thought that since you were undecided about how you felt about civilization, it would just be too heavy of a lift for me in your particular case.
     
    As excuses go, that isn't even internally consistent.

    You were the one who declared himself favourably impressed with Gottfried's formulation that there is a "war for Civilisation" going on. I have made no comment on my own position about civilisation, only that I don't know which side I would be on in such a war until I know what you (and perhaps Gottfried) mean by it.

    There's surely no unduly particular "heayy lifting" involved in just stating what you broadly believe in as the basic principles of the side of Civilisation in this current war, especially as you are so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.

    so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.

    Am I the only one that has to restrain hyperbole?

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    Still avoiding having to actually explain what you think is meant by being "for Civilisation", I see.

    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive. It's almost as though you had something to hide.
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  207. peterAUS says:
    @CalDre

    Anybody knowing the history of invading Russia and the mistake of the Kaiser’s two-front war and still invading Russia was crazy.
     
    You don't think Hitler knew that? He absolutely did not want to fight a 2-front war. So why did he?

    Stalin had amassed a force of about 5 million men around Kiev and south along the Dnipr river. He was heavily fortifying them with tanks, airplanes, artillery, etc. They were all in offensive positions - and you do not need to rely on my statement for that, just look at the facts: the Battle of Kiev, which involved millions of fighters but ended in about 6 weeks. Compare the German attack of St. Petersburg, which started during the battle of Kiev and lasted for *years*. The difference was, St. Petersburg was defensively arranged.

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler's but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin's dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.

    WHOAH……..

    So why were millions of troops around Kiev in offensive positions, about 700 km from the Russian/German border and 1300km from Berlin? It was not only Hitler’s but the German belief that Stalin was perched to fulfill Lenin’s dream of international communism: the Red Army was going to overrun all of Europe and place it under the hammer and sickle. Germany thought the Red Army could succeed if given more time to prepare and their best defense was a preemptive attack.

    Just not right to let this….nonsense…slide.

    Actually, it’s so wrong on several levels that there is no point of even talking about it.
    Just……WRONG.

    Even alt-right can’t get right (pun intended) about Hitler.
    There were some good things about the man and some bad things about the man.
    But this….100 good/bad is just……..childish.

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    What is the nonsense? You are saying there weren't millions of Red Army troops positioned around Kiev and west and south of there? Because that's simply indisputable fact. So the only "nonsense" portion would pertain to Germany's belief that they were planning an offensive. Now, since it is such nonsense, please educate me, where is the evidence that Germany did not feel it and Europe was threatened by these forces (and I guess for my claim to be "nonsense" it has to be quite clear and convincing evidence). I've looked and not found but maybe you are a better researcher than me.

    Or are you saying Leninism did not believe in "international revolution"? That one also is indisputable (and that Stalin was an imperialist clearly shown by his actions before, during and after the war).

    Nobody wrote (par. not me) that Hitler was 100% good. My only point is the "received wisdom" that Hitler attacked USSR for no reason is belied by the facts. Do you think if 5 million ISIS fighters were congregating at the border of the US (assuming US had no assurance to defeat them) that US would not launch a preemptive attack? Or anyone else for that matter?
    , @helena
    There's nothing childish about Marxist ideas infiltrating western civilisation but the rules of the game are childish so it would make more sense simply to play along with 100% bad in order to make political gains elsewhere. So far the result of embracing the possibility of good has led to the wholesale destruction of icons of one of my favourite cultures.
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  208. @joe webb
    nice piece overall. And thanks for educating me about Robert E. Lee.

    As a White Nationalist basically, who is sickened by the Hitlerism that is present in our movement, and especially sickened by Spencer and a couple others like Duke who are full of ego and little Napoleon complexes, but worse, are actually nazis.

    I know Spencer and Iknow enough about, like anybody else who has followed matters for a few years...Duke. I cannot call it tragic that we have a lots of these weird ducks, because it is all so tawdry, along with alcoholism and weird sex....these guys, at least Spencer, need to be keelhauled and booted out of WN. They are reducing it to a freak show.

    Then there are many nazis among us, that is the truth...like Greg Johnson, who is also a pink nazi and in my experience, a psychopath.

    When Trumpism appeared, it was a great Opening, a great Beginning of the counter-revolution, at least to some degree. NOW with Trump forced to declare us EVIL for wanting to preserve a White country, and more to come as the jewyorktimes heaps up the bonfire...using words like "Treason" today in describing the symbolism of Robert E. Lee and of course all of us horrible racists. We are declared Evil, now even by the Trumpers trying to keep their jobs and Trump...trying to hold onto his presidency against the race-traitors of both parties.

    And Spencer, et al think they...we have had a victory? They are nuts. This is a huge Defeat with all the nazi yakkity yak. It may bring down Trump and set us back years

    IT could also start some shooting, which will be ruthlessly cut down by liberalism. All for the ego and little napoleon complexes of a few adolescent-brained Leaders....annointed by the j.
    Jewyorktimes as that. Nobody I know thanks much of Spencer, he is a lousy speaker and a wimp when it comes to a little back and forth with our enemies. He also is an alcoholic and has come out as bi-sexual, i guess to outdo Milo, another freak on the make.

    Karl Marx always takes about the lumpen elements that had to be controlled, and sandbagged if shown up in the party. Spencer, et al are lumpen elements in that they are egoists, opportunists, and toy nazis. At least Ernst Bundle's I am not a neo-nazi, I am a Nazi! earned him some points for me while ushering him into the old folks' home.

    Any form of nazi this or that is totally BAD for us, never mind its inherent anti-white relatively democratic genetics- based history of Whites, starting in ancient Greece. It was aristocracy, not dictatorship... even in Homer, the chiefs could be criticized and challenged. Into Rome, and Germany (Tacitus) and on thru the extension of aristocracy control of the King, Magna Carta, etc and into our own constitution. Dictatorship is not White. It is Oriental....like Oriental Despotism. Only Whites have invented liberty, free speech, and elections....which are the only way to keep the peace.

    Hitler has no intention to return power to a council, etc. Even the communists discovered one-man rule was not a good idea...committee systems evolved there. etc.

    Every dip-shit Don Quixote wanting to be a HItgler...like the fool who killed the gal with his car.

    All of this is Not Good for the Whites, per the jewish measure.

    You want to start a civil war? Make sure you can win it. Which reminds me of the chief mistake out of dozens of Adolph....he lost the war and we came under the domination of communism and its pimping little sisters of Liberalism. And these boy liberals, complete physical cowards, pussies, led by jews and commie negroes like Van Jones. Astonishing...of course don't forget that that is where the money is.

    Joe Webb

    Here is the basic mistake that did cost humanity dearly. Hitler overplayed his hand, and now Globalists are overplaying their hand. Nothing new!!!!

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  209. Randal says:
    @iffen
    so zealous in attacking those you presumably think have no place in it.

    Am I the only one that has to restrain hyperbole?

    Still avoiding having to actually explain what you think is meant by being “for Civilisation”, I see.

    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive. It’s almost as though you had something to hide.

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    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive.

    And you hold yourself out as some sort of logimatician.
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  210. iffen says:
    @Randal
    Still avoiding having to actually explain what you think is meant by being "for Civilisation", I see.

    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive. It's almost as though you had something to hide.

    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive.

    And you hold yourself out as some sort of logimatician.

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    The prosecution rests, m'Lud.
    , @Randal
    But I can't resist adding this. Re your assertion earlier that "the overwhelming majority if not entirety" of the political right would say that Bull Connor's abuses were ok, here's a poll just reported showing that 22% of Republicans (and 21% of Trump supporters) actually say they "agree with the beliefs of Black Lives Matter"!

    That's a pretty extreme position, and strongly suggests your notions of personal racism in the Republican Party and on the political right are way off base. The same poll gives agreement with "white nationalists " as only 5% of Republicans and 6% of Trump supporters, and agreement with "the white supremacy movement" as 3% among Republicans and 4% among Trump supporters.

    The figures are similar for those classed by political ideology rather than party allegiance, as "Conservative/Very Conservative".

    http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/us170814_PBS/NPR_PBS%20NewsHour_Marist%20Poll_National%20Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_August%2017,%202017.pdf#page=3

    Sheds a bit of useful light on our difference of opinion, wouldn't you say?
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  211. Randal says:
    @iffen
    All this evasion is starting to make you look evasive.

    And you hold yourself out as some sort of logimatician.

    The prosecution rests, m’Lud.

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  212. CalDre says:
    @MarkinLA
    I already heard that. What is the standard rule for attacking dug in defensive positions? I think it is 4 times the defending force to guarantee victory. If Germany digs in, builds a coalition with the other border states and spreads the superior German military technology to its allies, they would have nothing to worry about from the Red Army.

    If Germany digs in, builds a coalition with the other border states and spreads the superior German military technology to its allies, they would have nothing to worry about from the Red Army

    Digging in doesn’t protect all of Europe. Even if Germany could have saved, say, Berlin, the Red Army could have swarmed through the rest of Europe, and the rest of Germany.

    And in terms of spreading technology, you seem to forget that Germany was at war with a good part of Europe already. Moreover there wasn’t much time – from “spreading technology” to having weapons on the battlefield with men trained to use them would take far longer than the Red Army marching a few hundred kilometers.

    Even post-war all of NATO did not think they could withstand a Red Army conventional assault and hence they adopted their nuclear doctrine of “Massive Retaliation” – i.e. if USSR attacked with conventional forces, NATO would defend with tactical nuclear weapons. Again, not only did Germany not have nuclear weapons, it was also fighting on its Eastern flank, rather than have a combined NATO army.

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    If Germany does not occupy Czechoslovakia and invade Poland, there would have been no war in the west and Germany would have had a free hand in developing a coalition to defend against the Red Army. Germany had the better technology and the better soldiers.

    I imagine it would take the Germans about 1 hour to teach a Czech artillery crew how to maneuver, load, aim and shoot an 88 gun - the most effective tank killer in the war.

    As for the NATO thing - there was a lot of BS propaganda coming out of the CIA about the Red Armies capabilities and intentions to keep the defense budgets ever growing. By about the mid 60s when effective anti-armor missiles were an in wide distribution, there was NO chance of a large scale land invasion. The military knew this but the American people had to be kept afraid of their own shadows.
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  213. Randal says: