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President Trump’s alleged comments about not wanting immigrants from “sh*thole” countries like Haiti caused hyperventilation in the Main Stream Media: No Leftist reporters want Americans knowing about the reality of life in the Third World that these immigrants will bring with them. Right on cue, America is about to get a dose of lying fantasy in the form of the much-touted upcoming Black Panther movie, when the science fiction black country of “Wakanda” comes to the screen February 16, just in time for Black History Month. [I Swear, ‘Black Panther’ is about to make every month Black History Month, by Dawn Burkes, Guide Live, January 4, 2018]

Black Panther is a black power fantasy in which the mythical African kingdom boasts the most advanced technology in the world. Of course, actually creating the fictional realm of Wakanda falls to the mostly white companies involved in special effects, including Industrial Light & Magic [Black Panther, by Vincent Frei, Art of VFX, January 9, 2018]. But the people on the screen and behind the camera who will garner the glory are overwhelmingly black.

Disney’s first Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) movie of the year will boast an almost all-black cast, a black director, a budget well north of $100 million, and storyline replete with black power and “Afrofuturism.” Marvel studio head Kevin Feige bragged “90 percent of the cast is either African or African American”. [Black Panther: Majority of Cast Will Be ‘African or African-American,’ by Molly Freeman, Screen Rant, May 13, 2016]

Significantly, Wakanda is framed as a direct response to “stereotypes” that Africa is undeveloped and primitive:

In the trailer … we see a white man… describing the most common stereotypes about countries in Africa. Soon he is asked about what knows of Wakanda, and we see visuals of a place the interviewee calls “El Dorado” and how it is not in South America — it is in Africa and it’s actually Wakanda. He proceeds to explain how anyone who had gone to “explore” it did not come out alive.

That right there in just two minutes drops the trope of defenseless Africans who need help and shows what African countries could have been without its colonization. Where instead of showing a story of a white hero who comes to aid the people it shows those who have hidden their culture to keep it safe.

[The ‘Black Panther’ Trailer Shows What Africa Would Have Been If White People Didn’t Destroy It, by Nomaris Garcia Rivera, Affinity, June 11, 2017]

Watch the trailer:

So the myth that the misfortune of Africa (and by extension all blacks) is solely due to whites will be getting some cinematic reinforcement. And as you might guess, the film’s main booster was Nate Moore, the sole black producer in Marvel’s film division. [The Man Who Put Marvel In The Black, by Kelley Carter, FiveThirtyEight, May 17, 2016]

The film is directed by Ryan Coogler, who directed a “black” Rocky spinoff with Creed, who also directed the anti-police film Fruitvale Station. Hilariously, Coogler visited Africa before principal photography began for…“accuracy”. [How Ryan Coogler took a deep dive into African culture to make Black Panther, by Josh Weiss, SyFy, December 28, 2017] And his “blackness” informs the whole project. [Why Marvel’s Black Panther Needs A Black Director, According To Ryan Coogler, by Adam Holmes, CinemaBlend, November 23, 2015]

Black producer—black director—an overwhelmingly black audience. As a marketing strategy, it may work, as the move is already outperforming all other MCU films in presales. [‘Black Panther’ outsells all Marvel films in first 24 hours of ticket presales, MarketWatch, January 10, 2018]

And it’s being interpreted in political terms, as proof of black (consumer) power, with the MSM gleefully assisting Marvel’s marketing campaign:

Black Panther” viewing parties are being scheduled around the country for its February release, smack dab in the middle of Black History Month. Clothing lines are being designed around the bright colors and Afrofuturism styles of Wakanda. And Grammy-winning rapper Kendrick Lamar was just named to produce the soundtrack.

“What is significant now, however, is that this age of convergence of film franchises with social media, a black superhero movie with an almost all-black cast conveys power, that we have arrived. It’s evolution,” said Christopher Chambers, a Georgetown University media studies professor.

[Black Panther movie causing excitement around country, by Jesse Holland, Washington Post, January 4, 2018]

Buying tickets for the film is even being defended as a charitable cause:

And a New York man wants to make sure a key demographic doesn’t miss out on the African superhero’s exploits: kids of color.

[Black marketing consultant] Fredrick Joseph has started a GoFundMe campaign so kids in Harlem, New York, can go see the movie when it comes out next month.

And thanks to some big-name celebrities, the “Wakanda Forever!” campaign is growing faster than a speeding bullet.

“I knew I wanted to do something for the children, especially of Harlem, because it was a community primarily of color,” Joseph, 29, told CNN. “I said to myself, how can I get as many children as possible to see this film and see themselves as a superhero or a king or queen?”

“Representation and inclusion are legitimately essential pillars to creating dreams for yourself,” he added.

[An activist starts a GoFundMe campaign to help kids in Harlem see ‘Black Panther’, by Lauren Lee, CNN, January 10, 2018]

For American civic nationalists, Black Panther is an ominous sign. Like the National Football League, the movie industry is another American institution that seems to be dividing along racial lines, with whites alone being warned away from embracing racial identity. The effectiveness of Black Panther’s pro-black marketing strategy is a startling contrast to how whites react to pop culture: they generally don’t base their self-worth off films and are actively discouraged from “seeing themselves” as mythical heroes. Significantly, MCU’s treatment of “Thor,” the hero based on the Northern European god, featured a multicultural Asgard with black Nordic deities. [The End of White Celebrity, by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, November 17, 2017]

Now the double standard of American racial politics is in your local movie theater.

It would be one thing if Wakanda was simply a flight into fancy. But journalists and activists seem to be taking it seriously, believing it has importance for real world politics. Unfortunately, the reality of black run nations is Zimbabwe, not Wakanda. And if Americans are foolish enough to confuse Hollywood’s delusions with real life, we won’t end up with an “Afro-futurist” paradise—but a country that will look like a larger version of Baltimore.

Paul Kersey[Email him] is the author of the blog SBPDL, and has published the books SBPDL Year One, Hollywood in Blackface and Escape From Detroit, Opiate of America: College Football in Black and White and Second City Confidential: The Black Experience in Chicagoland. His latest book is The Tragic City: Birmingham 1963-2013.

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  1. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Not something I’d pay to see, but I don’t have a problem with this. There’s nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a title=”"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming&#8221; href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

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    • Replies: @KenH
    From what I recall Coming to America didn't have an "in your face whitey" racial message that Black Panther seemingly will.
    , @Carroll Price
    99.9% of Black History is fiction.
    , @SMK
    Yes, it's "wrong" and malign if the lies and fiction engender black rage and anti-white hatred and violence such as the Wichita massacre and the Knoxville horror and myriads of other atrocities.
    , @SMK
    How many whites have been and will be assaulted, mugged, raped, gang-raped, murdered, etc., because of this dishonest and despicable movie?
    , @daniel le mouche
    I suggest you go into deepest Brooklyn, Bronx or North Philly for opening night, place yourself right in the middle of the theater, and see how you feel, how the youfs treat you. Let me know if you plan to, and I'll pray for your soul.
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  2. Black Panther is on the top of my “must miss” list. It may do okay in the U.S. due to black patronage, but it’s a non-starter in the increasingly important Asian market. Unfortunately, it will reinforce the “We wuz Kangs” delusions of blacks.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    I can't wait. Just hope the audience in the theatre doesn't decide to Wakanda my ass!
    Get dat cracka! Das da mufugga stole Wakanda! Cave beast!
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  3. Here’s a Black Panther for you, also built by White men, just like the movie!

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    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
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  4. Left to their own devices, we can only guess how many more eons sub-Saharan superheroes would need to invent the wheel.

    But never mind that, the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan is in gear and rolling. Thanks, (((Hollywood)))!

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  5. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian
    http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-35-Dateien/image137.jpg

    Here's a Black Panther for you, also built by White men, just like the movie!

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

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    • Replies: @Truth
    I think it was the Unz Palace in Rancho Mirage. His choice of writers became a little ridiculous.
    , @Jim Christian

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
     
    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

    , @Steve in Greensboro
    You didn't ask, but the aircraft is that work of martial art, the A-6 Intruder. A perfectly lovely creation, Grumman's equivalent of Michelangelo's David.

    Who were we bombing? We were bombing the communist North Vietnamese during their war of aggression against our allies, the South Vietnamese.

    Why were we bombing them? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

    , @Monty James
    The aircraft pictured was flying off the Nimitz, which was commissioned in May 1975.
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  6. Tulip says:

    Isn’t this move just white nationalism in black face?

    Integration is a lie and Blacks can only thrive if they remain separate? [And obviously, if its good for Blacks, why isn't it good for others? And if whites want what is good for Blacks, why shouldn't they struggle to see that they get what they need, e.g. physical removal from whites?]

    From the movie, one can only suppose that the evil of Jim Crow was not segregation, it was that the segregation wasn’t complete and total enough. Blacks don’t need separation, they need total removal in order to thrive. Certainly, diversity is not strength in Black Panther.

    The text may be Black Nationalist fantasy, but the subtext is more universal and comports with the ideological messaging a movie produced by Richard Spencer might have, if placed in national circulation. I wonder how hard it would be to dub and photoshop a parody?

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    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    "Isn’t this move just white nationalism in black face?"

    What stunningly ignorant low IQ bollocks.

    Whites actually built the finest civilization the world has ever seen, as attested to by the billions who want to live in it.

    Don't see frail little flowers fleeing to such black paradises as Somalia or Nigeria or (name your Sub-Sahara hellhole here.)
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  7. KenH says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Not something I'd pay to see, but I don't have a problem with this. There's nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

    From what I recall Coming to America didn’t have an “in your face whitey” racial message that Black Panther seemingly will.

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    • Replies: @Johnnydub
    "From what I recall Coming to America didn’t have an “in your face whitey” racial message that Black Panther seemingly will."

    No it was just funny... from the days before Hollywood tried to use very movie to stick propaganda up your arse...
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  8. KenH says:

    So blacks will emerge from the theaters thinking “Not only wuz we kangs, but we still iz kangs!” No doubt Beyonce, Jay-Z and Mad Maxine Waters will be huge fans of this movie since they’re all black powa supporters and wannabees. It will be promoted on CNN and MSNBC.

    But since it only appeals to blacks and since blacks prefer pirated DVD’s to paying at the theater, it will probably be a box office bomb which is secondary or tertiary objective anyway since (((Hollywood))) is more concerned with the racial message it sends to blacks than the meager profits it reaps.

    The creators of the Black Panther character and mythical Wakanda were not black since they generally lack imagination for such things.

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby

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    • Replies: @Truth
    They wouldn't be of Swedish decent, the franchise has lasted 52 years now, and it's still going strong; have you ever bought one of their cars?
    , @Orwellian State

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian
     

    2) of course! Only God's chosen people can have such imagination, talent and magnanimity. They are put on this earth to lead Africans to the promised land.

    Make Africa Great, if not Again, then at least For Once!

    , @Carroll Price

    But since it only appeals to blacks...
     
    You'll be surprised at number of white idiots who masturbate while watching it.
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  9. Meanwhile, Marvel dumps the comic on which this fantasy is based:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/20/every-glaad-nominated-marvel-comic-book-has-been-axed/

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  10. Truth says:

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy

    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid…

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider…and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift…and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun…

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Granted, all the the superhero comic book genre is silly. We aren't supposed to believe any of it, either, agreed. It's just comical to see that this comic/movie is an invention of white people.

    The old '70s movie push of the same type was called, as a genre, "Blaxploitation Films". Today such an accurate observation isn't allowed. Those movies were not total fantasy, but were still pretty far-out fiction, creating superblack characters like Shaft, Superfly, Buck and the Preacher, and the characters such as Coffy and Foxy Brown written for Pam Grier.

    This is just another Blaxploitation Film, though the people behind it would have a fit if that old term was put back into the vernacular to describe it.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    All of that is still more believable than a technologically advanced society in Africa.
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider… -- Truth
     
    I've seen very few comic-book-based movies, but the few I've seen have been okay. As for Black super-heroes, I did see Luke Cage, and that was okay -- probably a fairly realistic representation of ghetto culture, especially on the political side ---
    , @Talha
    LOL! Yeah everyone is taking this waaaaay too seriously.

    If there’s one universal truth I have learned from my youthful years of reading comic books - it is; exposure to radiation is always a positive thing.

    Peace.

    Note: Silver Surfer - worst super hero idea ever.
    , @anon
    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.
    , @Truth
    For the same reason you believe that I guy who got bitten by a radioactive spider can climb walls, I guess...
    , @Anonymous
    You are (perhaps intentionally) missing the main difference here. No Mainstream writers feel compelled to proclaim that 'Superman' and 'Spiderman' mean that whites are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    The desperation wrapped in idiotic black pride surrounding Black Panther arises from a profound lack of accomplishment among blacks in the real world and scraping the bottom of the barrel to have anything no matter how tenuous that supports the idea of black supremacy.
    , @c matt
    I think you are missing the point: No one is expected to believe Spiderman, Superman, Thor, etc. (hence why it is called suspension of disbelief) would happen - no one is running around juicing spiders with uranium exposure and letting them bite. But many proponents of BP do go running around saying Wakanda would be/is real but for the White Man. Which is fine - let them go to Africa and create Wakanda (see, e.g., Liberia).
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  11. Truth says:
    @anonymous
    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

    I think it was the Unz Palace in Rancho Mirage. His choice of writers became a little ridiculous.

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  12. Truth says:
    @KenH
    So blacks will emerge from the theaters thinking "Not only wuz we kangs, but we still iz kangs!" No doubt Beyonce, Jay-Z and Mad Maxine Waters will be huge fans of this movie since they're all black powa supporters and wannabees. It will be promoted on CNN and MSNBC.

    But since it only appeals to blacks and since blacks prefer pirated DVD's to paying at the theater, it will probably be a box office bomb which is secondary or tertiary objective anyway since (((Hollywood))) is more concerned with the racial message it sends to blacks than the meager profits it reaps.

    The creators of the Black Panther character and mythical Wakanda were not black since they generally lack imagination for such things.

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby

    They wouldn’t be of Swedish decent, the franchise has lasted 52 years now, and it’s still going strong; have you ever bought one of their cars?

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  13. Hacienda says:

    I’ve never met a black man or woman who believes Marvel comics represent reality or alternative histories. I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.

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    I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.
     
    Those Black men and ladies will track you down on the street, rob you of your keys, wallet, phone and pants. They'll kick the shit out of you. They'll laugh and laugh. Except White men like Paul Kersey carry guns. Like George Zimmerman. Like lots of guys that would sooner shoot the silver back than give him his way. Scared? Stay out of Baltimore and all the cities Black have ruined simply by being a majority and there's no problem. Meanwhile, we're entitled to safe passage, to property rights. And you think it's cute to "scare White men like Paul Kersey?. Bad move, trust me.
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  14. @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    Granted, all the the superhero comic book genre is silly. We aren’t supposed to believe any of it, either, agreed. It’s just comical to see that this comic/movie is an invention of white people.

    The old ’70s movie push of the same type was called, as a genre, “Blaxploitation Films”. Today such an accurate observation isn’t allowed. Those movies were not total fantasy, but were still pretty far-out fiction, creating superblack characters like Shaft, Superfly, Buck and the Preacher, and the characters such as Coffy and Foxy Brown written for Pam Grier.

    This is just another Blaxploitation Film, though the people behind it would have a fit if that old term was put back into the vernacular to describe it.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    I remember the Blaxpoitation films. I saw one of them, "Shaft's Big Score," fairly entertaining. After a few years, they stopped making money and died out.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    As opposed to white exploitation films Tarzan, Mama's Boys, Grindhouse, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Last House on the Left, Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 2, 3, . . . , Friday the 13th 1, 2 . . .etc, Halloween . . . 6 . . . , I Spit On Your Grave . . ., Black Christmas (there's some irony), Prom Night, Your Next, Hatchet, Psycho . . . wrong Turn . . .

    Now admittedly, I haven';t seen many of these films, but the motivation is quite clear with entire sites dedicated to satisfying the palate of white fears, violence with a side order of illicit relations.


    Now granted there are more whites than blacks in this country so one should expect more white exploitation . . . I know I am supposed to be on the politically correct path of denouncing all things black . . . but good grief.

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  15. @anonymous
    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    To confirm my suspicion that you don't, in fact, care.

    Did you "serve"? And if so, any regrets? Including losing?
    , @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyBrX1eK4I
    , @Anon
    Unlikely that it was a Vietnam mission. That drumstick is off the Nimitz, according to the tail flash, and as far as I know, Nimitz wasn't deployed to Yankee/Dixie and didn't serve in the Vietnam war. I think the only nuclear boat that participated was Enterprise.
    , @Simply Simon
    That plane is a Navy A-6 and no way could it carry a 26,000 lb bomb load. Not even close. I know, I was there.
    , @Lurker
    Unlikely, as the Nimitz wasn't operational until 1976.
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  16. Tulip says:

    I think there is an interesting cultural space within the matrix of goodthink to present issues of google power, google national liberation struggle, but in an ironic, tongue-in-cheek, manner that signals that perhaps the message isn’t actually for fellow googlers. This would pose problems for the censors and enforcers of goodthink, especially when they try to explain the issue. Plus they are so tone deaf–their stuff is already almost parody–that stuff will go viral before they realize it is dissident.

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  17. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
     
    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

    To confirm my suspicion that you don’t, in fact, care.

    Did you “serve”? And if so, any regrets? Including losing?

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Care, shmare. Notice USS Nimitz, which never bombed Vietnam. Notice the TRAM pod under the nose, that didn't come out until 1978 or 1979. The bombs falling are about to re-arrange the sand in Fallon, Nevada off the NAS there. I was kidding about this plane because I could tell you were trending pacifist. But back in the 1960s, the A6 Intruder dropped more bombs on Vietnam than all the tonnage dropped in WW2 and maybe Korea combined. Do I care what they did? Nah, didn't have anything to do with me even after Vietnam as long as the ejection seats worked when called up.

    Yeah, I gave em the full Monty, 6 years. I did ejection seats, LOX and air conditioning, wiggled the flaps and bombs as the planes pulled up to the catapults to see if anything would fall off before launch..

    Back then, it was service, it was a country before the fall. From a soldier or sailor's standpoint today, the shit hole EEOC society we have, the ugly, fat, tatted up sluts a young man has to come back home to, the hateful blacks, a landscape of illegals that gobble up our bounty and hate the U.S. anyway, there's little to defend. There is nothing redeemable in the U.S today, the government and society are so gross and corrupt I wouldn't defend it today. Mom, apple pie, Chevrolet? Those pies are now Hostess, the typical Mom is a thrice-married divorced slut and Chevrolet doesn't build in my country. What's worthwhile to defend? Nothing. The diversity and old, ugly and obsolete slutty feminists that hate White men are no more deserving of my help than the wasp I gladly spray Raid on. The U.S. is just a tool of enrichment for the Jews in the MIC. Every bomb dropped, some profit.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Heywood Jablome.
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  18. @Hacienda
    I've never met a black man or woman who believes Marvel comics represent reality or alternative histories. I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.

    I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.

    Those Black men and ladies will track you down on the street, rob you of your keys, wallet, phone and pants. They’ll kick the shit out of you. They’ll laugh and laugh. Except White men like Paul Kersey carry guns. Like George Zimmerman. Like lots of guys that would sooner shoot the silver back than give him his way. Scared? Stay out of Baltimore and all the cities Black have ruined simply by being a majority and there’s no problem. Meanwhile, we’re entitled to safe passage, to property rights. And you think it’s cute to “scare White men like Paul Kersey?. Bad move, trust me.

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    • Replies: @Hacienda
    I've never had a problem with blacks in a serious way. I say give them Baltimore and Detroit, a few other Northern cities. Whites screw up southern latitutes plenty with their screwy architecture, rules and regulations, behaviors that only belong in 4 season climates. Blacks deserve to screw up some wintery latitudes.
    , @joef
    Correct. It is absolutely essential for non blacks to maintain themselves as a hard target. Ghetto Afros love to prey upon the weak, and expect no mercy or compassion from them. For those who cannot maintain their strength, a gun is a great equalizer. We did not ask for this, but these are the times we are living in. It is better to acknowledge reality, than to ignore it. Never let a naive leftist/liberal/suburbanite convince you that your personal experience is invalid. They will pay a very high cost in their own survival for trying to make reality to conform to their own politically correct opinions. Racial reality about afros is not preferable thinking, but that does not make it untrue.
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  19. @anonymous
    To confirm my suspicion that you don't, in fact, care.

    Did you "serve"? And if so, any regrets? Including losing?

    Care, shmare. Notice USS Nimitz, which never bombed Vietnam. Notice the TRAM pod under the nose, that didn’t come out until 1978 or 1979. The bombs falling are about to re-arrange the sand in Fallon, Nevada off the NAS there. I was kidding about this plane because I could tell you were trending pacifist. But back in the 1960s, the A6 Intruder dropped more bombs on Vietnam than all the tonnage dropped in WW2 and maybe Korea combined. Do I care what they did? Nah, didn’t have anything to do with me even after Vietnam as long as the ejection seats worked when called up.

    Yeah, I gave em the full Monty, 6 years. I did ejection seats, LOX and air conditioning, wiggled the flaps and bombs as the planes pulled up to the catapults to see if anything would fall off before launch..

    Back then, it was service, it was a country before the fall. From a soldier or sailor’s standpoint today, the shit hole EEOC society we have, the ugly, fat, tatted up sluts a young man has to come back home to, the hateful blacks, a landscape of illegals that gobble up our bounty and hate the U.S. anyway, there’s little to defend. There is nothing redeemable in the U.S today, the government and society are so gross and corrupt I wouldn’t defend it today. Mom, apple pie, Chevrolet? Those pies are now Hostess, the typical Mom is a thrice-married divorced slut and Chevrolet doesn’t build in my country. What’s worthwhile to defend? Nothing. The diversity and old, ugly and obsolete slutty feminists that hate White men are no more deserving of my help than the wasp I gladly spray Raid on. The U.S. is just a tool of enrichment for the Jews in the MIC. Every bomb dropped, some profit.

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  20. joef says:

    Unfortunately, the reality of black run nations is Zimbabwe, not Wakanda. And if Americans are foolish enough to confuse Hollywood’s delusions with real life, we won’t end up with an “Afro-futurist” paradise—but a country that will look like a larger version of Baltimore.

    A very accurate summation. This is just more afro american negro nonsense about how they were all kings and queens in Africa before slavery (which always begs the question “who did the work then”?). Afros want separatism but not from our money & technology. But in reality they offer us nothing more then their anger/animosity/hatred. They place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return. There are some Blacks in this nation who are not part of that, but they are held just as much hostage to this leftist inspired afro hostility as the rest of us Non Blacks (usually with such ridiculous statements like “your not Black enough”, and other such nonsense). Afros are our one of our biggest national problems, but yet refuses to be recognized.

    Unfortunately I see no pending reversal to this national decline… they are bankrupting us, and when the welfare check fails to clear, it will lead to the direct result of an afro initiated race war. Whites (limo libs, cuckservatives, libertarians, elites etc) who desperately try to blame everything, and everyone, else in the hope of preventing this, will not be able to cope with this eventuality. There is more debt then money in existence (m2), or annual economic output (GPD), but yet desperate people will tell you that this is indefinitely sustainable in the future. Well how far do we spend tomorrows money until there is noting left for the people of tomorrow to live on… eventually we will arrive at this point. And if afros refuse to come together and work with us now, what makes people think that they will do it then. The potential die off from this stupidity could be catastrophically severe.

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    There already is a race war occurring, but it has yet to go fully hot. It was initiated by Black and redemption seeking White cultural, academic, and political figures.
    , @Grandpa Charlie
    joef,

    I don't want to give the impression that I disagree with your overall excellent post, but it's a little bigger than an insignificant typo, so here it is: YOU DON'T MEAN "Afros place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return" -- YOU MEAN "undue burden"! In law and in business, it's important to DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

    BTW: We could not fairly say about the old-time civil rights community that they thought in terms of giving nothing, contributing nothing -- indicating here: MLK, etc., e.g., worshipers/members of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston where the 2015 Charleston shooting took place

    true story: http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    It seems likely that in the early days or anyway at some times, the Black Panther Party was heavy into community organizing and self-help, which threatens the Establishment much more than violent organizations, which are easily exterminated. That's why the Deep State promoted and financed the Blacksploitation movies like Superfly; they wanted to destroy any kind of ethos among American Blacks that would promote anything positive such as working to get ahead, so they deliberately celebrated and even financially supported the pimp lifestyle ... and that project was amazingly successful.

    It's also noteworthy that MLK's last activism before his assassination in Memphis ... that last effort being in Chicago ... was successfully bringing together whites and blacks. In other words, MLK's last actiivism was in Chicago taking on the heart of the Chicago political machine, namely, the rental management cartel. The same people that today infiltrate MLK Day celebrations to turn them into celebrations of violent "Black Power" and USA militarism -- as distinguished from Ghandian non-violence --- those are the same people who downplay MLK's antiwar activities and, most likely, even the same people who worked behind the scenes to set up MLK's assassination.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GGrd8Pk554
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  21. @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    All of that is still more believable than a technologically advanced society in Africa.

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    Yeah...

    To the mentally retarded.
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  22. It would be an interesting thing to contemplate how Gelele’s kingdom of Dahomé would have developed by the 21st century had European powers not colonized West Africa:

    http://burtoniana.org/books/1864-A%20Mission%20to%20Gelele%20King%20of%20Dahome/index.htm

    Based on Burton’s description, it would probably be no better than it actually is now, and very likely worse.

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    It would be an interesting thing to contemplate how Gelele’s kingdom of Dahomé would have developed by the 21st century had European powers not colonized West Africa:

     

    LOL! Hey, had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you'd still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools, and hoping a stronger king wouldn't ransack your village and snatch your daughter away on horseback.
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  23. Truth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike
    All of that is still more believable than a technologically advanced society in Africa.

    Yeah…

    To the mentally retarded.

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    Such butthurt over a throwaway line... Then again, you are being deliberately obtuse on the matter so you must have some personal stake in the failures of the Sub-Saharan to close the massive civilization gap between themselves and the rest of the world. It's easier to just blame whitey.

    Maybe you should change your name to Troof.
    , @anon
    Is that the best comeback you can manage? But where are all the successful black countries? In Africa? In the Caribbean? Where?
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  24. Truth says:
    @Crawfurdmuir
    It would be an interesting thing to contemplate how Gelele's kingdom of Dahomé would have developed by the 21st century had European powers not colonized West Africa:

    http://burtoniana.org/books/1864-A%20Mission%20to%20Gelele%20King%20of%20Dahome/index.htm

    Based on Burton's description, it would probably be no better than it actually is now, and very likely worse.

    It would be an interesting thing to contemplate how Gelele’s kingdom of Dahomé would have developed by the 21st century had European powers not colonized West Africa:

    LOL! Hey, had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you’d still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools, and hoping a stronger king wouldn’t ransack your village and snatch your daughter away on horseback.

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    had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you’d still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools
     
    Those "Khazars" (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell's time. My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta), and by the 1640s their descendants had left to settle in North America. My Scottish ancestors also had not been serfs - villeinage never existed in Scotland.
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  25. @Jim Christian

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
     
    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

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  26. @Truth
    Yeah...

    To the mentally retarded.

    Such butthurt over a throwaway line… Then again, you are being deliberately obtuse on the matter so you must have some personal stake in the failures of the Sub-Saharan to close the massive civilization gap between themselves and the rest of the world. It’s easier to just blame whitey.

    Maybe you should change your name to Troof.

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    No old Sport, I'm just not dense enough to go to a movie made by the same company brought to us by the same company that came up with "The X-Men" expecting to see a documentary.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Maybe you should change your name to Troof."

    Troodat. ahaha
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  27. @Truth

    It would be an interesting thing to contemplate how Gelele’s kingdom of Dahomé would have developed by the 21st century had European powers not colonized West Africa:

     

    LOL! Hey, had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you'd still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools, and hoping a stronger king wouldn't ransack your village and snatch your daughter away on horseback.

    had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you’d still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools

    Those “Khazars” (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell’s time. My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta), and by the 1640s their descendants had left to settle in North America. My Scottish ancestors also had not been serfs – villeinage never existed in Scotland.

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    Those “Khazars” (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell’s time.
     
    LMAO! Yeah...

    This article is not exactly right, but it's right enough.

    http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/the-truth-about-the-so-called-british-royal-family-they-are-all-jews/


    My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta),
     
    Awesome, Bro.! It's always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant. I'm "Truth", the 74th Earl of East Wakanda...
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  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I have seen Wakanda already.

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    A Boeing Jumbo jet (withdrawn from service) in 2030 India......need I say more?
    , @Mark T
    Don’t understand old fashioned cameras and suddenly switching to left hand drive, but presumably to be consistent there would need to be some incredibly rich but hugely corrupt white ‘businessmen’ wandering around having massively exploited all the poor white people back home?
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  29. Truth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike
    Such butthurt over a throwaway line... Then again, you are being deliberately obtuse on the matter so you must have some personal stake in the failures of the Sub-Saharan to close the massive civilization gap between themselves and the rest of the world. It's easier to just blame whitey.

    Maybe you should change your name to Troof.

    No old Sport, I’m just not dense enough to go to a movie made by the same company brought to us by the same company that came up with “The X-Men” expecting to see a documentary.

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  30. Truth says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    had the Khazars not colonized Europe, you’d still be a serf living behind a stone wall, tending a half-acre plot with hand tools
     
    Those "Khazars" (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell's time. My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta), and by the 1640s their descendants had left to settle in North America. My Scottish ancestors also had not been serfs - villeinage never existed in Scotland.

    Those “Khazars” (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell’s time.

    LMAO! Yeah…

    This article is not exactly right, but it’s right enough.

    http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/the-truth-about-the-so-called-british-royal-family-they-are-all-jews/

    My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta),

    Awesome, Bro.! It’s always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant. I’m “Truth”, the 74th Earl of East Wakanda…

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    It’s always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant
     
    Nothing so grand as that. My English ancestry comes through a younger son of a gentry family - so they were, at least, in the early 17th century. You are, I hope, aware that the British colonies of North America had laws discouraging the admission of paupers and criminals. Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry. They didn't come to claim welfare benefits - there was no wealth to be redistributed here. All they could expect was what a person could win from the land by his own efforts.

    The article to which you linked has the aroma of a LaRouche product.
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  31. Actually, this film looks pretty cool. But after a year of intense psychological warfare directed against Whites across the Western world, I will reluctantly pass.

    The Black Panther was created by Don McGregor, a White guy.

    Let’s encourage Black Americans to migrate back to their ancestral homelands to create a real Wakanda.

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  32. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Such butthurt over a throwaway line... Then again, you are being deliberately obtuse on the matter so you must have some personal stake in the failures of the Sub-Saharan to close the massive civilization gap between themselves and the rest of the world. It's easier to just blame whitey.

    Maybe you should change your name to Troof.

    “Maybe you should change your name to Troof.”

    Troodat. ahaha

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  33. @Twodees Partain
    Granted, all the the superhero comic book genre is silly. We aren't supposed to believe any of it, either, agreed. It's just comical to see that this comic/movie is an invention of white people.

    The old '70s movie push of the same type was called, as a genre, "Blaxploitation Films". Today such an accurate observation isn't allowed. Those movies were not total fantasy, but were still pretty far-out fiction, creating superblack characters like Shaft, Superfly, Buck and the Preacher, and the characters such as Coffy and Foxy Brown written for Pam Grier.

    This is just another Blaxploitation Film, though the people behind it would have a fit if that old term was put back into the vernacular to describe it.

    I remember the Blaxpoitation films. I saw one of them, “Shaft’s Big Score,” fairly entertaining. After a few years, they stopped making money and died out.

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    What actually happened was that the Powers that Be did audience polls that suggested that black people made up roughly %50 of all horror movie ticket sales. They realized that if black people were going to go to the movies anyway, there was no great reason to make all-black movies, and they ramped up the horror movie production schedule, after the Exorcist/Omen.
    , @Twodees Partain
    They were largely the product of Roger Corman. I think when he stopped contributing to the genre it kind of fizzled.
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  34. @joef

    Unfortunately, the reality of black run nations is Zimbabwe, not Wakanda. And if Americans are foolish enough to confuse Hollywood’s delusions with real life, we won’t end up with an “Afro-futurist” paradise—but a country that will look like a larger version of Baltimore.
     
    A very accurate summation. This is just more afro american negro nonsense about how they were all kings and queens in Africa before slavery (which always begs the question "who did the work then"?). Afros want separatism but not from our money & technology. But in reality they offer us nothing more then their anger/animosity/hatred. They place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return. There are some Blacks in this nation who are not part of that, but they are held just as much hostage to this leftist inspired afro hostility as the rest of us Non Blacks (usually with such ridiculous statements like "your not Black enough", and other such nonsense). Afros are our one of our biggest national problems, but yet refuses to be recognized.

    Unfortunately I see no pending reversal to this national decline... they are bankrupting us, and when the welfare check fails to clear, it will lead to the direct result of an afro initiated race war. Whites (limo libs, cuckservatives, libertarians, elites etc) who desperately try to blame everything, and everyone, else in the hope of preventing this, will not be able to cope with this eventuality. There is more debt then money in existence (m2), or annual economic output (GPD), but yet desperate people will tell you that this is indefinitely sustainable in the future. Well how far do we spend tomorrows money until there is noting left for the people of tomorrow to live on... eventually we will arrive at this point. And if afros refuse to come together and work with us now, what makes people think that they will do it then. The potential die off from this stupidity could be catastrophically severe.

    There already is a race war occurring, but it has yet to go fully hot. It was initiated by Black and redemption seeking White cultural, academic, and political figures.

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    The Blacks nibble at the edges, they'll beat up, rob and rape the foolish Whites that enter their urban sphere, but they wisely don't bother with Whites that might actually, you know, go to war. Like Southern Whites with guns who are likely better shots. In don't see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they're going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.

    Hispanics and Muslims will handle the Blacks, don't you worry. And De Blaxx of a Puffy sort will find their antics less appreciated and especially, celebrated, by the New Patriarchy. The freaky, in your faces homos and trannies will become less...flame-boyant, too. There are SOME good aspects to a Caliphate.

    Under the Caliphate, I get my rights back.
    , @joef
    You are completely correct... there has been a de facto race war for the last half century now... the economic decline will be the spark for the afro initiated hot race war.
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  35. Truth says:
    @David In TN
    I remember the Blaxpoitation films. I saw one of them, "Shaft's Big Score," fairly entertaining. After a few years, they stopped making money and died out.

    What actually happened was that the Powers that Be did audience polls that suggested that black people made up roughly %50 of all horror movie ticket sales. They realized that if black people were going to go to the movies anyway, there was no great reason to make all-black movies, and they ramped up the horror movie production schedule, after the Exorcist/Omen.

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    "There was no great reason to make all-black movies" because they were no longer profitable.
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  36. @Truth


    Those “Khazars” (if I take your meaning right) were expelled from England in 1290, and were not allowed to come back until Cromwell’s time.
     
    LMAO! Yeah...

    This article is not exactly right, but it's right enough.

    http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/the-truth-about-the-so-called-british-royal-family-they-are-all-jews/


    My English ancestors were not serfs (six of them were sureties of Magna Carta),
     
    Awesome, Bro.! It's always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant. I'm "Truth", the 74th Earl of East Wakanda...

    It’s always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant

    Nothing so grand as that. My English ancestry comes through a younger son of a gentry family – so they were, at least, in the early 17th century. You are, I hope, aware that the British colonies of North America had laws discouraging the admission of paupers and criminals. Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry. They didn’t come to claim welfare benefits – there was no wealth to be redistributed here. All they could expect was what a person could win from the land by his own efforts.

    The article to which you linked has the aroma of a LaRouche product.

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    Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry
     
    Mine weren't merchants, they were Scots-Irish debtors to the merchants. The original slaves. They were sold to, errr, sent to the Jamestown Company where they went to the New World and cleared land and roads clear out to the Mississippi. The racist devils killed a lot of injuns. Later they killed each other in gunfights over land and grazing rights or water rights, or later, at the saloon. Still more, hundreds of thousands, in the Civil War. 40 acres and a mule was their reward. It's become a metaphor, no?
    , @Corvinus
    "Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry."

    Actually, between one-half and two-thirds of European immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies between the 1630s and the American Revolution came under indentures.
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  37. @SunBakedSuburb
    There already is a race war occurring, but it has yet to go fully hot. It was initiated by Black and redemption seeking White cultural, academic, and political figures.

    The Blacks nibble at the edges, they’ll beat up, rob and rape the foolish Whites that enter their urban sphere, but they wisely don’t bother with Whites that might actually, you know, go to war. Like Southern Whites with guns who are likely better shots. In don’t see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they’re going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.

    Hispanics and Muslims will handle the Blacks, don’t you worry. And De Blaxx of a Puffy sort will find their antics less appreciated and especially, celebrated, by the New Patriarchy. The freaky, in your faces homos and trannies will become less…flame-boyant, too. There are SOME good aspects to a Caliphate.

    Under the Caliphate, I get my rights back.

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    In don’t see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they’re going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.
     
    Well there are a whopping 18,000 people there, Jimbrowski. Let's say we move 18 miles north-west...

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/06/07/second-blm-leader-from-greenville-sc-arrested-in-two-days/
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  38. @Crawfurdmuir

    It’s always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant
     
    Nothing so grand as that. My English ancestry comes through a younger son of a gentry family - so they were, at least, in the early 17th century. You are, I hope, aware that the British colonies of North America had laws discouraging the admission of paupers and criminals. Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry. They didn't come to claim welfare benefits - there was no wealth to be redistributed here. All they could expect was what a person could win from the land by his own efforts.

    The article to which you linked has the aroma of a LaRouche product.

    Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry

    Mine weren’t merchants, they were Scots-Irish debtors to the merchants. The original slaves. They were sold to, errr, sent to the Jamestown Company where they went to the New World and cleared land and roads clear out to the Mississippi. The racist devils killed a lot of injuns. Later they killed each other in gunfights over land and grazing rights or water rights, or later, at the saloon. Still more, hundreds of thousands, in the Civil War. 40 acres and a mule was their reward. It’s become a metaphor, no?

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  39. So if 35% of all African Americans cough up $8.95, this thing might break even. They might vote en bloc, but it will be interesting to see if the go to movies en bloc. Maybe BET or whatever will kick in a few millions to help it along.

    I’m ignoring the big audiences in Africa, of course, because I have no idea what movie tix go for there. Then there are the pockets in the UK and the PC-types in both the UK and Europe, not to mention their PC-counterparts in North America.

    In other words, if you don’t see it out of racial solidarity, you will either see it out of guilt … or you’ll be branded a racist. I’ll probably see it on an aircraft, because I’ve gone through all the Bollywood and Chinese crap already, because I’ve gone through all the mainstream and artsy Hollywood crap already.

    Wow, this thing might actually make some money.

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    My bad ... that should be 85% of all African Americans.
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  40. @The Alarmist
    So if 35% of all African Americans cough up $8.95, this thing might break even. They might vote en bloc, but it will be interesting to see if the go to movies en bloc. Maybe BET or whatever will kick in a few millions to help it along.

    I'm ignoring the big audiences in Africa, of course, because I have no idea what movie tix go for there. Then there are the pockets in the UK and the PC-types in both the UK and Europe, not to mention their PC-counterparts in North America.

    In other words, if you don't see it out of racial solidarity, you will either see it out of guilt ... or you'll be branded a racist. I'll probably see it on an aircraft, because I've gone through all the Bollywood and Chinese crap already, because I've gone through all the mainstream and artsy Hollywood crap already.

    Wow, this thing might actually make some money.

    My bad … that should be 85% of all African Americans.

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  41. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
     
    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

    Unlikely that it was a Vietnam mission. That drumstick is off the Nimitz, according to the tail flash, and as far as I know, Nimitz wasn’t deployed to Yankee/Dixie and didn’t serve in the Vietnam war. I think the only nuclear boat that participated was Enterprise.

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    You are correct, Sir. The pic is from an old squadron archive. I was with them 1976-1981-and-change. The pic is from 1978 at a trip we made to Fallon.
    , @Carroll Price
    It could have been Grenada or Panama - who knows. The 1st one being the war that made America stand tall again, and the 2nd proving George H. W was no wimp to be trifled with.
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  42. Hacienda says:
    @Jim Christian

    I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.
     
    Those Black men and ladies will track you down on the street, rob you of your keys, wallet, phone and pants. They'll kick the shit out of you. They'll laugh and laugh. Except White men like Paul Kersey carry guns. Like George Zimmerman. Like lots of guys that would sooner shoot the silver back than give him his way. Scared? Stay out of Baltimore and all the cities Black have ruined simply by being a majority and there's no problem. Meanwhile, we're entitled to safe passage, to property rights. And you think it's cute to "scare White men like Paul Kersey?. Bad move, trust me.

    I’ve never had a problem with blacks in a serious way. I say give them Baltimore and Detroit, a few other Northern cities. Whites screw up southern latitutes plenty with their screwy architecture, rules and regulations, behaviors that only belong in 4 season climates. Blacks deserve to screw up some wintery latitudes.

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  43. Antonius says:

    Comedy gold

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  44. @Truth
    What actually happened was that the Powers that Be did audience polls that suggested that black people made up roughly %50 of all horror movie ticket sales. They realized that if black people were going to go to the movies anyway, there was no great reason to make all-black movies, and they ramped up the horror movie production schedule, after the Exorcist/Omen.

    “There was no great reason to make all-black movies” because they were no longer profitable.

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  45. Truth says:
    @Jim Christian
    The Blacks nibble at the edges, they'll beat up, rob and rape the foolish Whites that enter their urban sphere, but they wisely don't bother with Whites that might actually, you know, go to war. Like Southern Whites with guns who are likely better shots. In don't see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they're going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.

    Hispanics and Muslims will handle the Blacks, don't you worry. And De Blaxx of a Puffy sort will find their antics less appreciated and especially, celebrated, by the New Patriarchy. The freaky, in your faces homos and trannies will become less...flame-boyant, too. There are SOME good aspects to a Caliphate.

    Under the Caliphate, I get my rights back.

    In don’t see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they’re going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.

    Well there are a whopping 18,000 people there, Jimbrowski. Let’s say we move 18 miles north-west…

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/06/07/second-blm-leader-from-greenville-sc-arrested-in-two-days/

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    Well, they don't do their BLM deeds there. Those two are mopes, child support, kidnapping, public nuisance, that's not anything to do with #blm except that all the Black men have issues with 5 children, 4 women, no child support. That's Blacks. But in Simpsonville and in Greenville, you aren't going to see BLM marching down the streets with the Groids nibbling at the edges robbing people and invading homes along the way. That's a Seattle/NYC/Chicago thing.
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  46. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    boast an almost all-black cast, a black director, a budget well north of $100 million,

    Two out of three are black, the third comes from who? Would it be accurate to assume that the all-important budget has origins other than black investors? Black supermen have been in all our commercials for years now as well as being awesome geniuses in just about every movie. Unlike the other superhero movies this one will probably be heralded as having some great meaning beyond being just a movie.

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  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’m left wondering… were the plans for the movie made before or after the first edition of the comic came out?

    Was the comic a loss-leader all along, merely a setup so they could add a black-positive movie to their lineup, for political reasons?

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  48. A big opening weekend, then a nosedive for week two. After the shootings, brawls and other monkeyshines hit the web they will only have the black market to support the movie.

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  49. joef says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    There already is a race war occurring, but it has yet to go fully hot. It was initiated by Black and redemption seeking White cultural, academic, and political figures.

    You are completely correct… there has been a de facto race war for the last half century now… the economic decline will be the spark for the afro initiated hot race war.

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  50. @joef

    Unfortunately, the reality of black run nations is Zimbabwe, not Wakanda. And if Americans are foolish enough to confuse Hollywood’s delusions with real life, we won’t end up with an “Afro-futurist” paradise—but a country that will look like a larger version of Baltimore.
     
    A very accurate summation. This is just more afro american negro nonsense about how they were all kings and queens in Africa before slavery (which always begs the question "who did the work then"?). Afros want separatism but not from our money & technology. But in reality they offer us nothing more then their anger/animosity/hatred. They place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return. There are some Blacks in this nation who are not part of that, but they are held just as much hostage to this leftist inspired afro hostility as the rest of us Non Blacks (usually with such ridiculous statements like "your not Black enough", and other such nonsense). Afros are our one of our biggest national problems, but yet refuses to be recognized.

    Unfortunately I see no pending reversal to this national decline... they are bankrupting us, and when the welfare check fails to clear, it will lead to the direct result of an afro initiated race war. Whites (limo libs, cuckservatives, libertarians, elites etc) who desperately try to blame everything, and everyone, else in the hope of preventing this, will not be able to cope with this eventuality. There is more debt then money in existence (m2), or annual economic output (GPD), but yet desperate people will tell you that this is indefinitely sustainable in the future. Well how far do we spend tomorrows money until there is noting left for the people of tomorrow to live on... eventually we will arrive at this point. And if afros refuse to come together and work with us now, what makes people think that they will do it then. The potential die off from this stupidity could be catastrophically severe.

    joef,

    I don’t want to give the impression that I disagree with your overall excellent post, but it’s a little bigger than an insignificant typo, so here it is: YOU DON’T MEAN “Afros place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return” — YOU MEAN “undue burden”! In law and in business, it’s important to DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

    BTW: We could not fairly say about the old-time civil rights community that they thought in terms of giving nothing, contributing nothing — indicating here: MLK, etc., e.g., worshipers/members of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston where the 2015 Charleston shooting took place

    true story: http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    It seems likely that in the early days or anyway at some times, the Black Panther Party was heavy into community organizing and self-help, which threatens the Establishment much more than violent organizations, which are easily exterminated. That’s why the Deep State promoted and financed the Blacksploitation movies like Superfly; they wanted to destroy any kind of ethos among American Blacks that would promote anything positive such as working to get ahead, so they deliberately celebrated and even financially supported the pimp lifestyle … and that project was amazingly successful.

    It’s also noteworthy that MLK’s last activism before his assassination in Memphis … that last effort being in Chicago … was successfully bringing together whites and blacks. In other words, MLK’s last actiivism was in Chicago taking on the heart of the Chicago political machine, namely, the rental management cartel. The same people that today infiltrate MLK Day celebrations to turn them into celebrations of violent “Black Power” and USA militarism — as distinguished from Ghandian non-violence — those are the same people who downplay MLK’s antiwar activities and, most likely, even the same people who worked behind the scenes to set up MLK’s assassination.

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    Yes you are probably correct as to the root cause of afro american animosity. However without the fertile eagerness of afro americans to hate whitey without cause, it wouldn't have been able to develop to the level it is today. Afros really believe in the mythology of white privilege, and want supposed 400 years of payback for something they never experienced directly themselves (slavery), nor any non black living today is responsible for. Yes leftist/elites etc have been manipulating this black rage idiocy for the last half century now, but they will not be able to fully control this Frankenstein Monster, and we will all pay the price for it (including the afros themselves).

    I was raised/lived in a city neighborhood, and school system, where I had frequent contact with ghetto afros. It would be a gross understatement to say they were not pleasant people to be around. Most of the non blacks in my area knew that afros feel justified in using extreme violence to achieve casual goals. They also observed how afros would routinely litter, and publicly urinate, on the streets. Ghetto afros were equivalent to predators, and thus looked for easy targets where they had some unfair advantage over their victims. Liberal victims tried to 'reason' with them which usually achieved some type of bad result. Racial realist non blacks made themselves hard targets that the afros generally didn't want to mess with.

    When this situation explodes (we are not realistically paying off all our combined debt, so deteriorating insolvency will be more and more the norm), afros will want a race war. They are usually accustomed to feckless society giving in to all their demands, so they will believe that it will be easy. When the white man does not produce hidden magic money, they will want to riot, loot, burn, gang rape, carjack, and home invade. If gasoline is readily available they will attack the suburbs, but eventually the harsh winter, and lack of food resources, will start to diminish their numbers. As the state itself fails, and the possibility of prosecutions diminish, whites will not fear fighting back against afro aggressions. The final result will be afros losing (badly) the race war they would be so desirous to start. However the nation itself will be a left over mess.

    When will this happen? Probably not before government guts every other service they provide to the rest of normal society, in order to pay for unearned afro entitlements. The canary in the coal mine will be large scale: reductions in garbage collection, fire dept station houses, road repair, hospitals, public transportation, urban policing, military bases, national guard units, prisons, water supply, sewage, street lights, etc in the desperate attempt to sustain the unsustainable. This will be followed (or occur simultaneously) with scarcity which will result in long lines for gasoline/food/banks. With drastically reduced local govt forces (especially if they are not getting paid) to contain afro violence, coupled with a diminished ability to provide welfare, thats when it will begin. Thanks for correcting my typo.

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  51. @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider… — Truth

    I’ve seen very few comic-book-based movies, but the few I’ve seen have been okay. As for Black super-heroes, I did see Luke Cage, and that was okay — probably a fairly realistic representation of ghetto culture, especially on the political side —

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  52. joef says:
    @Grandpa Charlie
    joef,

    I don't want to give the impression that I disagree with your overall excellent post, but it's a little bigger than an insignificant typo, so here it is: YOU DON'T MEAN "Afros place an undo burden upon us, and offer nothing productive in return" -- YOU MEAN "undue burden"! In law and in business, it's important to DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

    BTW: We could not fairly say about the old-time civil rights community that they thought in terms of giving nothing, contributing nothing -- indicating here: MLK, etc., e.g., worshipers/members of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston where the 2015 Charleston shooting took place

    true story: http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    It seems likely that in the early days or anyway at some times, the Black Panther Party was heavy into community organizing and self-help, which threatens the Establishment much more than violent organizations, which are easily exterminated. That's why the Deep State promoted and financed the Blacksploitation movies like Superfly; they wanted to destroy any kind of ethos among American Blacks that would promote anything positive such as working to get ahead, so they deliberately celebrated and even financially supported the pimp lifestyle ... and that project was amazingly successful.

    It's also noteworthy that MLK's last activism before his assassination in Memphis ... that last effort being in Chicago ... was successfully bringing together whites and blacks. In other words, MLK's last actiivism was in Chicago taking on the heart of the Chicago political machine, namely, the rental management cartel. The same people that today infiltrate MLK Day celebrations to turn them into celebrations of violent "Black Power" and USA militarism -- as distinguished from Ghandian non-violence --- those are the same people who downplay MLK's antiwar activities and, most likely, even the same people who worked behind the scenes to set up MLK's assassination.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GGrd8Pk554

    Yes you are probably correct as to the root cause of afro american animosity. However without the fertile eagerness of afro americans to hate whitey without cause, it wouldn’t have been able to develop to the level it is today. Afros really believe in the mythology of white privilege, and want supposed 400 years of payback for something they never experienced directly themselves (slavery), nor any non black living today is responsible for. Yes leftist/elites etc have been manipulating this black rage idiocy for the last half century now, but they will not be able to fully control this Frankenstein Monster, and we will all pay the price for it (including the afros themselves).

    I was raised/lived in a city neighborhood, and school system, where I had frequent contact with ghetto afros. It would be a gross understatement to say they were not pleasant people to be around. Most of the non blacks in my area knew that afros feel justified in using extreme violence to achieve casual goals. They also observed how afros would routinely litter, and publicly urinate, on the streets. Ghetto afros were equivalent to predators, and thus looked for easy targets where they had some unfair advantage over their victims. Liberal victims tried to ‘reason’ with them which usually achieved some type of bad result. Racial realist non blacks made themselves hard targets that the afros generally didn’t want to mess with.

    When this situation explodes (we are not realistically paying off all our combined debt, so deteriorating insolvency will be more and more the norm), afros will want a race war. They are usually accustomed to feckless society giving in to all their demands, so they will believe that it will be easy. When the white man does not produce hidden magic money, they will want to riot, loot, burn, gang rape, carjack, and home invade. If gasoline is readily available they will attack the suburbs, but eventually the harsh winter, and lack of food resources, will start to diminish their numbers. As the state itself fails, and the possibility of prosecutions diminish, whites will not fear fighting back against afro aggressions. The final result will be afros losing (badly) the race war they would be so desirous to start. However the nation itself will be a left over mess.

    When will this happen? Probably not before government guts every other service they provide to the rest of normal society, in order to pay for unearned afro entitlements. The canary in the coal mine will be large scale: reductions in garbage collection, fire dept station houses, road repair, hospitals, public transportation, urban policing, military bases, national guard units, prisons, water supply, sewage, street lights, etc in the desperate attempt to sustain the unsustainable. This will be followed (or occur simultaneously) with scarcity which will result in long lines for gasoline/food/banks. With drastically reduced local govt forces (especially if they are not getting paid) to contain afro violence, coupled with a diminished ability to provide welfare, thats when it will begin. Thanks for correcting my typo.

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    One other large cost of the entitlements you list are do-nothing government jobs for otherwise unemployable blacks in every level of government. If not for government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of.
    , @Grandpa Charlie
    I do not contest anything you say here, especially not about your personal experiences. I have observed thaat there are home invasions, sometimes by black gangs, sometimes by other non-white gangs, seldom by white gangs. I have lived in non-affluent neighborhoods in a big city, and of course anyone can be the target or victim of gang violence, and sometimes it only takes one or two bullies (like the guy in Feerguson). But I also saw occasionally exceptions --e.g., a quiet and civilized young 'black' man minding his own business, riding a bus and avoiding the insanity around him and most likely the lucky recipient of a good upbringing. And then, I recall, from news accounts (which I think are not always misleading), the black men who went to the rescue of Reginald Denny and probably saved his life. You will say these are the exceptions, and all I am saying is 'prize the exceptions'. Sometimes the exceptions are more important than the run of the mill.

    Anyway, my post wasn't about the general condition of black (or other) anti-white ghetto violence culture: It was solely directed at understanding the role of 'our' government in fostering some of the most negative aspects of that culture. It's really an insanely evil situation stacked onto an already insanely evil situation. That's why I included the link:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    Of course, we are like ants in a prairie fire, and there's rarely anything even the best peacemakers with the best intentions can do about it although they are blessed (Matthew 5:9) -- black, white or whatever. I think MLK had the right idea, the best idea, but young blacks as well as most other Americans summarily reject that wisdom. Meanwhile, I agree with Derb about the importance of 'The Talk' for all non-black youth, although those who have had experiences similar to yours don't need to be told.

    http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz556SFm7Cs

    , @prusmc
    I don't think it will come to a point where Whites will ever fight-back. Maybe 50 years ago maybe, today forget about it. Whites have been indoctrinated that is they owe all and are culpable for all the misfortunes of Blacks. I agree that the types of government services noted by Josef will be cut back and eventually discontinued before even the slightest reduction will be made to payments to the underclass. There is a lot of ruin in the country before we reach this stage.
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  53. Lloyd1927 says:

    The myth of an African paradise goes back to the 19th century. Henry McNeal Turner was the foremost propagandist for this idea:

    http://www.academia.edu/541996/The_Emigration_and_Propaganda_Campaign_of_Bishop_Henry_McNeal_Turner

    In describing Sierra Leone he writes “I thought it was a low, swampy lagoony town, with narrow, muddy streets, as filthy as a cesspool; but cleanliness, pavements sidewalks, rock-sewers and decency everywhere met the eye. But when I pointed this and that fine building out, and was told that they all belong to black men, I was surprised more than ever.Again, when I inquired about the great cathedral, with tower and clock, and other large churches, with spires, domes and steeples,and was told they were black people’s churches, I had to say, thank God for this sight.”

    In writing about Liberia Turner states “Liberia is one of the most paradisiacal portions of earth my eyes ever beheld. Any person who cannot live here with reasonable health cannot exist anywhere…How under heaven some Negroes can come here and after remaining awhile, go back to America and give this place a bad name I cannot understand…This is the only country I have ever seen where everybody could have a stream of water running through his yard. It is the most perfectly watered region I have ever witnessed.”

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  54. @David In TN
    I remember the Blaxpoitation films. I saw one of them, "Shaft's Big Score," fairly entertaining. After a few years, they stopped making money and died out.

    They were largely the product of Roger Corman. I think when he stopped contributing to the genre it kind of fizzled.

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  55. @joef
    Yes you are probably correct as to the root cause of afro american animosity. However without the fertile eagerness of afro americans to hate whitey without cause, it wouldn't have been able to develop to the level it is today. Afros really believe in the mythology of white privilege, and want supposed 400 years of payback for something they never experienced directly themselves (slavery), nor any non black living today is responsible for. Yes leftist/elites etc have been manipulating this black rage idiocy for the last half century now, but they will not be able to fully control this Frankenstein Monster, and we will all pay the price for it (including the afros themselves).

    I was raised/lived in a city neighborhood, and school system, where I had frequent contact with ghetto afros. It would be a gross understatement to say they were not pleasant people to be around. Most of the non blacks in my area knew that afros feel justified in using extreme violence to achieve casual goals. They also observed how afros would routinely litter, and publicly urinate, on the streets. Ghetto afros were equivalent to predators, and thus looked for easy targets where they had some unfair advantage over their victims. Liberal victims tried to 'reason' with them which usually achieved some type of bad result. Racial realist non blacks made themselves hard targets that the afros generally didn't want to mess with.

    When this situation explodes (we are not realistically paying off all our combined debt, so deteriorating insolvency will be more and more the norm), afros will want a race war. They are usually accustomed to feckless society giving in to all their demands, so they will believe that it will be easy. When the white man does not produce hidden magic money, they will want to riot, loot, burn, gang rape, carjack, and home invade. If gasoline is readily available they will attack the suburbs, but eventually the harsh winter, and lack of food resources, will start to diminish their numbers. As the state itself fails, and the possibility of prosecutions diminish, whites will not fear fighting back against afro aggressions. The final result will be afros losing (badly) the race war they would be so desirous to start. However the nation itself will be a left over mess.

    When will this happen? Probably not before government guts every other service they provide to the rest of normal society, in order to pay for unearned afro entitlements. The canary in the coal mine will be large scale: reductions in garbage collection, fire dept station houses, road repair, hospitals, public transportation, urban policing, military bases, national guard units, prisons, water supply, sewage, street lights, etc in the desperate attempt to sustain the unsustainable. This will be followed (or occur simultaneously) with scarcity which will result in long lines for gasoline/food/banks. With drastically reduced local govt forces (especially if they are not getting paid) to contain afro violence, coupled with a diminished ability to provide welfare, thats when it will begin. Thanks for correcting my typo.

    One other large cost of the entitlements you list are do-nothing government jobs for otherwise unemployable blacks in every level of government. If not for government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of.

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  56. Talha says:
    @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    LOL! Yeah everyone is taking this waaaaay too seriously.

    If there’s one universal truth I have learned from my youthful years of reading comic books – it is; exposure to radiation is always a positive thing.

    Peace.

    Note: Silver Surfer – worst super hero idea ever.

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  57. Johnnydub says:
    @KenH
    From what I recall Coming to America didn't have an "in your face whitey" racial message that Black Panther seemingly will.

    “From what I recall Coming to America didn’t have an “in your face whitey” racial message that Black Panther seemingly will.”

    No it was just funny… from the days before Hollywood tried to use very movie to stick propaganda up your arse…

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  58. joef says:
    @Jim Christian

    I have met black men and women who make caricatures of themselves to scare white men like Paul Kersey.
     
    Those Black men and ladies will track you down on the street, rob you of your keys, wallet, phone and pants. They'll kick the shit out of you. They'll laugh and laugh. Except White men like Paul Kersey carry guns. Like George Zimmerman. Like lots of guys that would sooner shoot the silver back than give him his way. Scared? Stay out of Baltimore and all the cities Black have ruined simply by being a majority and there's no problem. Meanwhile, we're entitled to safe passage, to property rights. And you think it's cute to "scare White men like Paul Kersey?. Bad move, trust me.

    Correct. It is absolutely essential for non blacks to maintain themselves as a hard target. Ghetto Afros love to prey upon the weak, and expect no mercy or compassion from them. For those who cannot maintain their strength, a gun is a great equalizer. We did not ask for this, but these are the times we are living in. It is better to acknowledge reality, than to ignore it. Never let a naive leftist/liberal/suburbanite convince you that your personal experience is invalid. They will pay a very high cost in their own survival for trying to make reality to conform to their own politically correct opinions. Racial reality about afros is not preferable thinking, but that does not make it untrue.

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  59. Most of this nonsense stems from the Black Athena agenda. The blacks led by the genus of Al Sharpton believe the Greeks stole everything from the Africans. They actually believe they had massive civilizations in Africa and we the Europeans lied about them. Of course, they believe the Egyptians were all black including the Pharaohs. Genetic evidence however, seems to show that the Pharaohs are even more Middle Eastern than the general population of Egypt.

    The political correct intrusion of this type of nonsense has basically destroyed anthropology and archeology as far as I’m concerned.

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    It is basically projection for afro americans to believe that something was stolen from them, when in fact they steal from the weak and helpless as a lifestyle. When they are not doing that, then they are perpetually living on unearned welfare entitlements that we provide. They are parasitical to our economic system and eventually, despite liberal fantasies to the contrary, their endless extraction of our resources will transform us into failed state like conditions. All this because collectively we refuse to impose responsibility upon them. Instead we have an afro american culture that produces nothing and wants everything. This cannot last indefinitely.
    , @Wally
    "The political correct intrusion of this type of nonsense has basically destroyed anthropology and archeology as far as I’m concerned."

    Wait until the Marxists & so called "native Americans" get a load of this:

    Stone Age Hunters From Europe Discovered America https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/01/no_author/new-evidence-suggests-stone-age-hunters-from-europe-discovered-america/

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  60. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

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    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

     

    I think "Truth's" dismissal of Kersey's piece is foolish.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They're fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    American blacks however are trained from the cradle to stoke their grievances, both those which are historically accurate (however remote) and those which are pure imagination (i.e. that secret codes on food packaging certifies production by the KKK or is an intent to make blacks sterile). They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something. (You know how racists love making blacks more shiftless and dependent upon welfare and crime perpetrated against whites).

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him. And given his natural limitations, he's not going to try to build a new WAKANDA from the ground up, he's going to rob or assault someone to assuage his sense of deprivation and entitlement.
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  61. @Anon
    Unlikely that it was a Vietnam mission. That drumstick is off the Nimitz, according to the tail flash, and as far as I know, Nimitz wasn't deployed to Yankee/Dixie and didn't serve in the Vietnam war. I think the only nuclear boat that participated was Enterprise.

    You are correct, Sir. The pic is from an old squadron archive. I was with them 1976-1981-and-change. The pic is from 1978 at a trip we made to Fallon.

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  62. @Truth

    In don’t see #BLM in Simpsonville, South Carolina for instance. I suspect Charlottesville is as far south and as rough as they’re going to go, they prefer more Liberal surroundings.
     
    Well there are a whopping 18,000 people there, Jimbrowski. Let's say we move 18 miles north-west...

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/06/07/second-blm-leader-from-greenville-sc-arrested-in-two-days/

    Well, they don’t do their BLM deeds there. Those two are mopes, child support, kidnapping, public nuisance, that’s not anything to do with #blm except that all the Black men have issues with 5 children, 4 women, no child support. That’s Blacks. But in Simpsonville and in Greenville, you aren’t going to see BLM marching down the streets with the Groids nibbling at the edges robbing people and invading homes along the way. That’s a Seattle/NYC/Chicago thing.

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    https://carolinapeace.org/2016/07/08/pics-from-greenville-sc-blm-rally-jul-8-2016/
     
    Wrong again, Old Sport!

    http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article88831267.html

    https://carolinapeace.org/2016/07/08/pics-from-greenville-sc-blm-rally-jul-8-2016/

    http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/32401783/black-lives-matter-protest-to-take-place-at-plyler-park-saturday-night

    I can go on if you'd like....
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  63. joef says:
    @niteranger
    Most of this nonsense stems from the Black Athena agenda. The blacks led by the genus of Al Sharpton believe the Greeks stole everything from the Africans. They actually believe they had massive civilizations in Africa and we the Europeans lied about them. Of course, they believe the Egyptians were all black including the Pharaohs. Genetic evidence however, seems to show that the Pharaohs are even more Middle Eastern than the general population of Egypt.

    The political correct intrusion of this type of nonsense has basically destroyed anthropology and archeology as far as I'm concerned.

    It is basically projection for afro americans to believe that something was stolen from them, when in fact they steal from the weak and helpless as a lifestyle. When they are not doing that, then they are perpetually living on unearned welfare entitlements that we provide. They are parasitical to our economic system and eventually, despite liberal fantasies to the contrary, their endless extraction of our resources will transform us into failed state like conditions. All this because collectively we refuse to impose responsibility upon them. Instead we have an afro american culture that produces nothing and wants everything. This cannot last indefinitely.

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  64. joef says:

    Liberals, Leftist progs, and elites, also try to perpetuate this afro american mythology, as a distraction from the unwelcome truth that afros are an endless burden upon our society. Unfortunately this distraction does not change the truth, nor causes the damage to be undone. I remember in college class where some afro would start talking with useless gibberish, which usually prompted the professor into saying how profound the afros statement was, and it should be repeated so the rest of the class would have the “benefit” of hearing it. We fiddle as Rome burns.

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  65. Truth says:
    @Truth

    Thing Is, We’re Supposed to BELIEVE This BLACK PANTHER Black Power Fantasy
     
    Of course not, Paulie, that would be stupid...

    But you ARE supposed to believe that a high-school newspaper boy gained the ability to shoot webs from his wrists and climb 90 degree walls after being bitten by a radioactive spider...and that an ancient Norse god from another dimension goes to fight people with a magical hammer that only he can lift...and that a mother and father from a far away planet stashed their infant upon a spaceship just before the planet imploded due to nuclear war, and that this spaceship crash landed in Kansas and the boy achieved super-human strength from the sun...

    But nah, that black panther stuff is kinda silly.

    For the same reason you believe that I guy who got bitten by a radioactive spider can climb walls, I guess…

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    Will you admit there are no successful black countries in the world?
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  66. Truth says:
    @Jim Christian
    Well, they don't do their BLM deeds there. Those two are mopes, child support, kidnapping, public nuisance, that's not anything to do with #blm except that all the Black men have issues with 5 children, 4 women, no child support. That's Blacks. But in Simpsonville and in Greenville, you aren't going to see BLM marching down the streets with the Groids nibbling at the edges robbing people and invading homes along the way. That's a Seattle/NYC/Chicago thing.
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    You can go on and on and on to your hearts' content. Doesn't change the tenor in 95% of southern towns that are White majority. Negro protest interests go worse for them the further outside blue states and cities they travel. As for Hispanics, Blacks don't mess with Hispanics, quite the reverse is true. Everyone's fed up with Blacks. There's a reason BLM goes to Blue cities. No consequences.
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  67. @anonymous
    To confirm my suspicion that you don't, in fact, care.

    Did you "serve"? And if so, any regrets? Including losing?

    Heywood Jablome.

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  68. I don’t get the royalty thing in comics presented to us as propaganda for progressivism and social justice.

    The idea of Wonder Woman as a “feminist” icon, especially. She comes from a traditional, hierarchical society ruled by a queen, and her people emphasize chastity, self-discipline and fitness.

    In other words, Wonder Woman rejects equality, democracy, sexual freedom and fat acceptance. Other than her assertion of independence from male authority, she doesn’t seem anything at all like the bitchy, slutty, doughy feminists we see in the real world. In some respects her world view more resemble’s the Alt Right’s than our elite’s Clown World ideology.

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  69. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    It’s always nice to meet another Royal Family descendant
     
    Nothing so grand as that. My English ancestry comes through a younger son of a gentry family - so they were, at least, in the early 17th century. You are, I hope, aware that the British colonies of North America had laws discouraging the admission of paupers and criminals. Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry. They didn't come to claim welfare benefits - there was no wealth to be redistributed here. All they could expect was what a person could win from the land by his own efforts.

    The article to which you linked has the aroma of a LaRouche product.

    “Seventeenth-century settlers were mostly drawn from the merchant/artisan middle class or from the younger offspring of the landed gentry.”

    Actually, between one-half and two-thirds of European immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies between the 1630s and the American Revolution came under indentures.

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  70. Actually, between one-half and two-thirds of European immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies between the 1630s and the American Revolution came under indentures.

    These mostly came after the end of the seventeenth century. See:

    http://usinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/USImmigrationhistorylutton.pdf

    “The southern colonies attracted the younger sons of aristocratic families, doctors, lawyers and others from whom large estates provided both a livelihood and social distinction. The northern colonies were primarily settled by Separatists and Puritans, whose motive for leaving England was largely religious, as well as by middle‐class townspeople, who had gained a measure of political experience during the Cromwellian Revolution. They and their descendants led the colonies in the areas of trade and manufacturing.(…)

    “After the French under Louis XIV seized the Palatinate at the beginning of the eighteenth century, thousands of Germans fled to England, where the government encouraged them to migrate to North America. More than 30,000 Germans arrived in America in 1708‐ 1709.

    “Large numbers of Germans became indentured servants, contracting with ship owners for passage in return for service for a term of years. When the ships arrived in America, captains auctioned these indentured servants off to already established settlers. After 1717, a new breed of unscrupulous agents, called ‘new‐landers’ and ‘soul‐stealers,’ lured thousands of German peasants to America. The shipmasters paid a commission to the agents and, once the emigrants arrived, the newcomers were sold to ‘soul‐drivers,’ who in turn, indentured them to farmers. After serving a term of three to five years service, these redemptioners usually received fifty acres of land.”

    The British government, as the linked article indicates, did try to force convicts and paupers on the colonies, but the colonial authorities protested and tried to discourage their settlement. Once the First Congress of the United States convened (its membership including many who had previously been delegates to the Constitutional Convention), among the first legislation it passed was the Naturalization Act of 1790, restricting citizenship to free white persons of good character who had been resident in the U.S. for two years. It excluded indentured servants, blacks whether free or slave, and American Indians. In 1795 the residence requirement was raised to five years; in 1798, to fourteen.

    The historical posture of the United States has been one of restricted immigration, and not of open borders.

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    Thanks for great research, Crawfurdmuir!
    , @daniel le mouche
    'The southern colonies attracted the younger sons of aristocratic families, doctors, lawyers and others from whom large estates provided both a livelihood and social distinction....'

    Who cares, goddamn English.
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  71. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth
    For the same reason you believe that I guy who got bitten by a radioactive spider can climb walls, I guess...

    Will you admit there are no successful black countries in the world?

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    There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    It's sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre.

    , @Talha
    Why should he? By which metric are you asking? Judging by reproductive capacity, Black countries are doing fine - Europeans and others are imploding. Sure others have nuclear power plants and nanotechnology, but all the skyscrapers and bullet trains in the world don’t mean a thing if they can’t help you in survival-of-the-fittest, right? It’s just extra weight.

    Peace.
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  72. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth
    Yeah...

    To the mentally retarded.

    Is that the best comeback you can manage? But where are all the successful black countries? In Africa? In the Caribbean? Where?

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    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.
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  73. Truth says:
    @anon
    Will you admit there are no successful black countries in the world?

    There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    It’s sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre.

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    "There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    "It’s sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre."

    -- Truth
     
    I don't know if that's entirely accurate ... yet ... but it sure seems to be going that way.
    , @anon
    Thank you for your non-answer answer.
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  74. Talha says:
    @anon
    Will you admit there are no successful black countries in the world?

    Why should he? By which metric are you asking? Judging by reproductive capacity, Black countries are doing fine – Europeans and others are imploding. Sure others have nuclear power plants and nanotechnology, but all the skyscrapers and bullet trains in the world don’t mean a thing if they can’t help you in survival-of-the-fittest, right? It’s just extra weight.

    Peace.

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    Exactly. In the words of the first Black President of the United States of America, it all depends on what the meaning if is, is.
    , @bomag

    Judging by reproductive capacity...
     
    Which is on track to consume the entire planet, so I'm not sure that is something to tout.
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  75. @joef
    Yes you are probably correct as to the root cause of afro american animosity. However without the fertile eagerness of afro americans to hate whitey without cause, it wouldn't have been able to develop to the level it is today. Afros really believe in the mythology of white privilege, and want supposed 400 years of payback for something they never experienced directly themselves (slavery), nor any non black living today is responsible for. Yes leftist/elites etc have been manipulating this black rage idiocy for the last half century now, but they will not be able to fully control this Frankenstein Monster, and we will all pay the price for it (including the afros themselves).

    I was raised/lived in a city neighborhood, and school system, where I had frequent contact with ghetto afros. It would be a gross understatement to say they were not pleasant people to be around. Most of the non blacks in my area knew that afros feel justified in using extreme violence to achieve casual goals. They also observed how afros would routinely litter, and publicly urinate, on the streets. Ghetto afros were equivalent to predators, and thus looked for easy targets where they had some unfair advantage over their victims. Liberal victims tried to 'reason' with them which usually achieved some type of bad result. Racial realist non blacks made themselves hard targets that the afros generally didn't want to mess with.

    When this situation explodes (we are not realistically paying off all our combined debt, so deteriorating insolvency will be more and more the norm), afros will want a race war. They are usually accustomed to feckless society giving in to all their demands, so they will believe that it will be easy. When the white man does not produce hidden magic money, they will want to riot, loot, burn, gang rape, carjack, and home invade. If gasoline is readily available they will attack the suburbs, but eventually the harsh winter, and lack of food resources, will start to diminish their numbers. As the state itself fails, and the possibility of prosecutions diminish, whites will not fear fighting back against afro aggressions. The final result will be afros losing (badly) the race war they would be so desirous to start. However the nation itself will be a left over mess.

    When will this happen? Probably not before government guts every other service they provide to the rest of normal society, in order to pay for unearned afro entitlements. The canary in the coal mine will be large scale: reductions in garbage collection, fire dept station houses, road repair, hospitals, public transportation, urban policing, military bases, national guard units, prisons, water supply, sewage, street lights, etc in the desperate attempt to sustain the unsustainable. This will be followed (or occur simultaneously) with scarcity which will result in long lines for gasoline/food/banks. With drastically reduced local govt forces (especially if they are not getting paid) to contain afro violence, coupled with a diminished ability to provide welfare, thats when it will begin. Thanks for correcting my typo.

    I do not contest anything you say here, especially not about your personal experiences. I have observed thaat there are home invasions, sometimes by black gangs, sometimes by other non-white gangs, seldom by white gangs. I have lived in non-affluent neighborhoods in a big city, and of course anyone can be the target or victim of gang violence, and sometimes it only takes one or two bullies (like the guy in Feerguson). But I also saw occasionally exceptions –e.g., a quiet and civilized young ‘black’ man minding his own business, riding a bus and avoiding the insanity around him and most likely the lucky recipient of a good upbringing. And then, I recall, from news accounts (which I think are not always misleading), the black men who went to the rescue of Reginald Denny and probably saved his life. You will say these are the exceptions, and all I am saying is ‘prize the exceptions’. Sometimes the exceptions are more important than the run of the mill.

    Anyway, my post wasn’t about the general condition of black (or other) anti-white ghetto violence culture: It was solely directed at understanding the role of ‘our’ government in fostering some of the most negative aspects of that culture. It’s really an insanely evil situation stacked onto an already insanely evil situation. That’s why I included the link:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    Of course, we are like ants in a prairie fire, and there’s rarely anything even the best peacemakers with the best intentions can do about it although they are blessed (Matthew 5:9) — black, white or whatever. I think MLK had the right idea, the best idea, but young blacks as well as most other Americans summarily reject that wisdom. Meanwhile, I agree with Derb about the importance of ‘The Talk’ for all non-black youth, although those who have had experiences similar to yours don’t need to be told.

    http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz556SFm7Cs

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    Yes of course their are exceptions! But I try to avoid getting muddled in them because it just further obfuscates the issue. In some of my past posts I would lament that decent Blacks will lose the most as this country unravels (economic decline plus racial balkanization equals failed state like conditions). The resultant large scale disorder & unrest, coupled with unprovoked afro aggressions, will make many non blacks have a shoot first ask questions later attitude (figuratively/literally) towards all other Blacks. This will be done out of pure desire for self preservation. This unfortunate set of circumstances will give decent Blacks no where to turn to escape the resultant chaos (my only advice for them is move somewhere now, with decent neighbors, and build social capital within that community).

    Obviously you do not know me, but I can assure you nothing I say is just to be provocative (well maybe sometimes); I am not a white nationalist (I consider myself a Kirkean Paleocon); and I prefer afros reform themselves to continuing their destructive ways. I look forward to none of this, however if I divorce myself from my emotions, and accept the massive amounts of empirical experience of myself, and others, who dealt with afros on a routine basis, it is clear where we are going. [It is also clear that there are many events the MSM, politicians and Academia, are not reporting, thus they are unreliable sources of information re: race relations with afro americans.]

    I also observed thugs in non black groups, and I am as contemptuous of them as any ghetto afro bottom feeder. But in comparison there is proportionally greater disfunction, violence, and criminal behavior, in the afro american community than in other non black groups. The homicides alone committed by afros is truly staggering. Also you can interact with other non black groups without the issue of race ever coming up (you can have a normal conversation), whereas afros are obsessed with the subject, causing the pandering MSM/politicians/academia to always talk about it (which induces negro fatigue).

    I rather be wrong on this, but I do not live my life based on wishful thinking. The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems. Their combination will be greatly disruptive to a stable society. If this trajectory continues, we are going to arrive at a very very bad place in future history. It doesn't make any sense to tell someone it is always sunny when a storm is developing outside. I do not like what I am saying, but the truth is the truth. Better to be prepared for it than live in denial (and may God have mercy on my soul).

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  76. @Crawfurdmuir

    Actually, between one-half and two-thirds of European immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies between the 1630s and the American Revolution came under indentures.
     
    These mostly came after the end of the seventeenth century. See:

    http://usinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/USImmigrationhistorylutton.pdf

    "The southern colonies attracted the younger sons of aristocratic families, doctors, lawyers and others from whom large estates provided both a livelihood and social distinction. The northern colonies were primarily settled by Separatists and Puritans, whose motive for leaving England was largely religious, as well as by middle‐class townspeople, who had gained a measure of political experience during the Cromwellian Revolution. They and their descendants led the colonies in the areas of trade and manufacturing.(...)

    "After the French under Louis XIV seized the Palatinate at the beginning of the eighteenth century, thousands of Germans fled to England, where the government encouraged them to migrate to North America. More than 30,000 Germans arrived in America in 1708‐ 1709.

    "Large numbers of Germans became indentured servants, contracting with ship owners for passage in return for service for a term of years. When the ships arrived in America, captains auctioned these indentured servants off to already established settlers. After 1717, a new breed of unscrupulous agents, called 'new‐landers' and 'soul‐stealers,' lured thousands of German peasants to America. The shipmasters paid a commission to the agents and, once the emigrants arrived, the newcomers were sold to 'soul‐drivers,' who in turn, indentured them to farmers. After serving a term of three to five years service, these redemptioners usually received fifty acres of land."

    The British government, as the linked article indicates, did try to force convicts and paupers on the colonies, but the colonial authorities protested and tried to discourage their settlement. Once the First Congress of the United States convened (its membership including many who had previously been delegates to the Constitutional Convention), among the first legislation it passed was the Naturalization Act of 1790, restricting citizenship to free white persons of good character who had been resident in the U.S. for two years. It excluded indentured servants, blacks whether free or slave, and American Indians. In 1795 the residence requirement was raised to five years; in 1798, to fourteen.

    The historical posture of the United States has been one of restricted immigration, and not of open borders.

    Thanks for great research, Crawfurdmuir!

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  77. @Truth
    There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    It's sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre.

    “There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    “It’s sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre.”

    – Truth

    I don’t know if that’s entirely accurate … yet … but it sure seems to be going that way.

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    My understanding is that there are three countries in the world that are not run by a Rothschild central bank;

    North Korea
    Iran
    Syria

    There were a few more 20 years ago:

    Iraq
    Cuba
    Afghanistan
    Libya
    Sudan

    Notice a trend?
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  78. @Talha
    Why should he? By which metric are you asking? Judging by reproductive capacity, Black countries are doing fine - Europeans and others are imploding. Sure others have nuclear power plants and nanotechnology, but all the skyscrapers and bullet trains in the world don’t mean a thing if they can’t help you in survival-of-the-fittest, right? It’s just extra weight.

    Peace.

    Exactly. In the words of the first Black President of the United States of America, it all depends on what the meaning if is, is.

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    Indeed - every society has different pathologies. Europeans are not without their own unique ones. Various African groups have there's as well. It's best to work on fixing the problems in one's own group - pointing the finger at others is mental masturbation -might feel good, doesn't produce anything though.

    I actually watched this documentary because I found it quite fascinating on how normal they tried to make something which would have been considered a mental disorder just a few decades ago - a complete malfunction of the subjects involved:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dViIVCg0OpQ

    All of the people in this seem to be White Europeans save one Asian-looking guy and one Black (person?)

    It reminded me of that quote attributed to Euripides:
    "Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad."

    Peace.

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  79. joef says:
    @Grandpa Charlie
    I do not contest anything you say here, especially not about your personal experiences. I have observed thaat there are home invasions, sometimes by black gangs, sometimes by other non-white gangs, seldom by white gangs. I have lived in non-affluent neighborhoods in a big city, and of course anyone can be the target or victim of gang violence, and sometimes it only takes one or two bullies (like the guy in Feerguson). But I also saw occasionally exceptions --e.g., a quiet and civilized young 'black' man minding his own business, riding a bus and avoiding the insanity around him and most likely the lucky recipient of a good upbringing. And then, I recall, from news accounts (which I think are not always misleading), the black men who went to the rescue of Reginald Denny and probably saved his life. You will say these are the exceptions, and all I am saying is 'prize the exceptions'. Sometimes the exceptions are more important than the run of the mill.

    Anyway, my post wasn't about the general condition of black (or other) anti-white ghetto violence culture: It was solely directed at understanding the role of 'our' government in fostering some of the most negative aspects of that culture. It's really an insanely evil situation stacked onto an already insanely evil situation. That's why I included the link:

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/21/the-charleston-shooting-theres-more-to-the-story-than-weve-been-told/

    Of course, we are like ants in a prairie fire, and there's rarely anything even the best peacemakers with the best intentions can do about it although they are blessed (Matthew 5:9) -- black, white or whatever. I think MLK had the right idea, the best idea, but young blacks as well as most other Americans summarily reject that wisdom. Meanwhile, I agree with Derb about the importance of 'The Talk' for all non-black youth, although those who have had experiences similar to yours don't need to be told.

    http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz556SFm7Cs

    Yes of course their are exceptions! But I try to avoid getting muddled in them because it just further obfuscates the issue. In some of my past posts I would lament that decent Blacks will lose the most as this country unravels (economic decline plus racial balkanization equals failed state like conditions). The resultant large scale disorder & unrest, coupled with unprovoked afro aggressions, will make many non blacks have a shoot first ask questions later attitude (figuratively/literally) towards all other Blacks. This will be done out of pure desire for self preservation. This unfortunate set of circumstances will give decent Blacks no where to turn to escape the resultant chaos (my only advice for them is move somewhere now, with decent neighbors, and build social capital within that community).

    Obviously you do not know me, but I can assure you nothing I say is just to be provocative (well maybe sometimes); I am not a white nationalist (I consider myself a Kirkean Paleocon); and I prefer afros reform themselves to continuing their destructive ways. I look forward to none of this, however if I divorce myself from my emotions, and accept the massive amounts of empirical experience of myself, and others, who dealt with afros on a routine basis, it is clear where we are going. [It is also clear that there are many events the MSM, politicians and Academia, are not reporting, thus they are unreliable sources of information re: race relations with afro americans.]

    I also observed thugs in non black groups, and I am as contemptuous of them as any ghetto afro bottom feeder. But in comparison there is proportionally greater disfunction, violence, and criminal behavior, in the afro american community than in other non black groups. The homicides alone committed by afros is truly staggering. Also you can interact with other non black groups without the issue of race ever coming up (you can have a normal conversation), whereas afros are obsessed with the subject, causing the pandering MSM/politicians/academia to always talk about it (which induces negro fatigue).

    I rather be wrong on this, but I do not live my life based on wishful thinking. The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems. Their combination will be greatly disruptive to a stable society. If this trajectory continues, we are going to arrive at a very very bad place in future history. It doesn’t make any sense to tell someone it is always sunny when a storm is developing outside. I do not like what I am saying, but the truth is the truth. Better to be prepared for it than live in denial (and may God have mercy on my soul).

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    The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems.
     
    Dude, that was the funniest comment yet this week!

    Nice that you tied them in together in a tight little bundle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o
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  80. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Is that the best comeback you can manage? But where are all the successful black countries? In Africa? In the Caribbean? Where?

    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

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    No, actually unreformed contemporary afro americans are most successful at destroying life, and property, and will prevail in bringing down themselves and everything else with it. Any opinion to the contrary is pure fantasy.
    , @Truth
    ...My friend, you said a mouthful!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)
    , @anon
    Blacks live off the welfare of whites. In Africa, white intervention (Ethiopia, Somalia) prevented famine from doing natures work of reducing over-population.
    , @Anonymous
    Creating life isn't the problem. Sustaining it is.

    If all whites vanished, Africa would be at pre-1500 population levels in twenty or thirty years.
    , @bomag

    ...life-creators will prevail over material-creators.
     
    That cockroaches will ultimately prevail is not something to brag about.
    , @Tiny Duck
    Haha owned

    I like how all these white supremacists cannot account for the fact that white girls prefer Black Men as sexual partners and fathers of their children
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  81. Truth says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    "There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    "It’s sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre."

    -- Truth
     
    I don't know if that's entirely accurate ... yet ... but it sure seems to be going that way.

    My understanding is that there are three countries in the world that are not run by a Rothschild central bank;

    North Korea
    Iran
    Syria

    There were a few more 20 years ago:

    Iraq
    Cuba
    Afghanistan
    Libya
    Sudan

    Notice a trend?

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  82. joef says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    No, actually unreformed contemporary afro americans are most successful at destroying life, and property, and will prevail in bringing down themselves and everything else with it. Any opinion to the contrary is pure fantasy.

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  83. Truth says:
    @joef
    Yes of course their are exceptions! But I try to avoid getting muddled in them because it just further obfuscates the issue. In some of my past posts I would lament that decent Blacks will lose the most as this country unravels (economic decline plus racial balkanization equals failed state like conditions). The resultant large scale disorder & unrest, coupled with unprovoked afro aggressions, will make many non blacks have a shoot first ask questions later attitude (figuratively/literally) towards all other Blacks. This will be done out of pure desire for self preservation. This unfortunate set of circumstances will give decent Blacks no where to turn to escape the resultant chaos (my only advice for them is move somewhere now, with decent neighbors, and build social capital within that community).

    Obviously you do not know me, but I can assure you nothing I say is just to be provocative (well maybe sometimes); I am not a white nationalist (I consider myself a Kirkean Paleocon); and I prefer afros reform themselves to continuing their destructive ways. I look forward to none of this, however if I divorce myself from my emotions, and accept the massive amounts of empirical experience of myself, and others, who dealt with afros on a routine basis, it is clear where we are going. [It is also clear that there are many events the MSM, politicians and Academia, are not reporting, thus they are unreliable sources of information re: race relations with afro americans.]

    I also observed thugs in non black groups, and I am as contemptuous of them as any ghetto afro bottom feeder. But in comparison there is proportionally greater disfunction, violence, and criminal behavior, in the afro american community than in other non black groups. The homicides alone committed by afros is truly staggering. Also you can interact with other non black groups without the issue of race ever coming up (you can have a normal conversation), whereas afros are obsessed with the subject, causing the pandering MSM/politicians/academia to always talk about it (which induces negro fatigue).

    I rather be wrong on this, but I do not live my life based on wishful thinking. The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems. Their combination will be greatly disruptive to a stable society. If this trajectory continues, we are going to arrive at a very very bad place in future history. It doesn't make any sense to tell someone it is always sunny when a storm is developing outside. I do not like what I am saying, but the truth is the truth. Better to be prepared for it than live in denial (and may God have mercy on my soul).

    The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems.

    Dude, that was the funniest comment yet this week!

    Nice that you tied them in together in a tight little bundle.

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    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies. Second I never said that some elites are not accumulating money for themselves (ie stealing), by taking from the system. Then these same elites will pontificate limo liberalism on the rest of us by saying we must sacrifice more for the afro.
    But the main reason for this kind of missing money is deficit spending is spending money that is not there yet (currently doesn't exist in real terms). This results in bookkeeping tricks in order to try to hide the problems of spending non existent money. If you were more economically sophisticated, you would understand that.
    , @bomag
    Just because you find something funny does not mean it is not a salient feature.
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  84. Truth says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    …My friend, you said a mouthful!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)

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  85. joef says:
    @Truth

    The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems.
     
    Dude, that was the funniest comment yet this week!

    Nice that you tied them in together in a tight little bundle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o

    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies. Second I never said that some elites are not accumulating money for themselves (ie stealing), by taking from the system. Then these same elites will pontificate limo liberalism on the rest of us by saying we must sacrifice more for the afro.
    But the main reason for this kind of missing money is deficit spending is spending money that is not there yet (currently doesn’t exist in real terms). This results in bookkeeping tricks in order to try to hide the problems of spending non existent money. If you were more economically sophisticated, you would understand that.

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    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies.
     
    Excellent. Now I know why they created Wall Street. I was always a little fuzzy on that.

    Except for one thing; that missing 9 trillion dollars adds up to a total of $225,000 for each and every on of the 40,000,000 white people in America; what did they spend it on?

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  86. Talha says:
    @HallParvey
    Exactly. In the words of the first Black President of the United States of America, it all depends on what the meaning if is, is.

    Indeed – every society has different pathologies. Europeans are not without their own unique ones. Various African groups have there’s as well. It’s best to work on fixing the problems in one’s own group – pointing the finger at others is mental masturbation -might feel good, doesn’t produce anything though.

    I actually watched this documentary because I found it quite fascinating on how normal they tried to make something which would have been considered a mental disorder just a few decades ago – a complete malfunction of the subjects involved:

    All of the people in this seem to be White Europeans save one Asian-looking guy and one Black (person?)

    It reminded me of that quote attributed to Euripides:
    “Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.”

    Peace.

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  87. Truth says:
    @joef
    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies. Second I never said that some elites are not accumulating money for themselves (ie stealing), by taking from the system. Then these same elites will pontificate limo liberalism on the rest of us by saying we must sacrifice more for the afro.
    But the main reason for this kind of missing money is deficit spending is spending money that is not there yet (currently doesn't exist in real terms). This results in bookkeeping tricks in order to try to hide the problems of spending non existent money. If you were more economically sophisticated, you would understand that.

    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies.

    Excellent. Now I know why they created Wall Street. I was always a little fuzzy on that.

    Except for one thing; that missing 9 trillion dollars adds up to a total of $225,000 for each and every on of the 40,000,000 white people in America; what did they spend it on?

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    I meant to write "black people" above.

    There will only be 40m of you soon, but right now you are around 200m.
    , @joef
    They spent it mainly on the welfare state, then the military congressional complex (that President Eisenhower warned us about), to service the debt's interest rates, failing educational system, corporate subsidies, and finally other essential (and non essential) govt services.
    , @bomag

    that missing 9 trillion dollars...
     
    Don't be fooled by the title of your linked piece.

    The money is not "lost". It is quite visibly on the books.

    The IG was asked upon what it was spent. That she didn't provide an answer speaks to the quality of gov't help and the nature of the system.
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  88. Truth says:
    @Truth

    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies.
     
    Excellent. Now I know why they created Wall Street. I was always a little fuzzy on that.

    Except for one thing; that missing 9 trillion dollars adds up to a total of $225,000 for each and every on of the 40,000,000 white people in America; what did they spend it on?

    I meant to write “black people” above.

    There will only be 40m of you soon, but right now you are around 200m.

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  89. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth
    There are no black countries. The world is a dictatorship.

    It's sort of like in 1984. There is a central government and the rest is all theatre.

    Thank you for your non-answer answer.

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    You're asking a PhD level question expecting a See Jane Run answer.
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  90. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    Blacks live off the welfare of whites. In Africa, white intervention (Ethiopia, Somalia) prevented famine from doing natures work of reducing over-population.

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    That may be, but as long as whites are feeding blacks(and morally feel compelled to do so), excess black population will gain access to the West.

    Also, whites are addicted to pleasure, and their main pleasure comes from black music and black sports and black sex. So, whites have come to admire blacks. The bargain between whites and blacks is this. Whites are like ants who work to produce stuff but are lame at having fun. Blacks are grasshoppers who aren't good at making stuff but know how to have fun and show white folks a good time.

    So, it's not like blacks just leeching off whites. Blacks are offering a service to whites. Whites work to run economies and pay blacks to show them a good time.

    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don't know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.
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  91. joef says:
    @Truth

    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies.
     
    Excellent. Now I know why they created Wall Street. I was always a little fuzzy on that.

    Except for one thing; that missing 9 trillion dollars adds up to a total of $225,000 for each and every on of the 40,000,000 white people in America; what did they spend it on?

    They spent it mainly on the welfare state, then the military congressional complex (that President Eisenhower warned us about), to service the debt’s interest rates, failing educational system, corporate subsidies, and finally other essential (and non essential) govt services.

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    oops, meant the Military Industrial (Congressional) Complex; also you can probably add the non productive drug war, Bank bailouts, and foreign subsidies, to this negative financial situation too.
    , @Truth
    So they spend more on welfare for 40m black people, than they do for the military industrial complex?

    That's funny, I guess every economic pie chart I have ever seen is wrong; not only wrong, but, like they put the decimal points in the wrong places, wrong. Thanks.
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  92. joef says:
    @joef
    They spent it mainly on the welfare state, then the military congressional complex (that President Eisenhower warned us about), to service the debt's interest rates, failing educational system, corporate subsidies, and finally other essential (and non essential) govt services.

    oops, meant the Military Industrial (Congressional) Complex; also you can probably add the non productive drug war, Bank bailouts, and foreign subsidies, to this negative financial situation too.

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  93. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Blacks live off the welfare of whites. In Africa, white intervention (Ethiopia, Somalia) prevented famine from doing natures work of reducing over-population.

    That may be, but as long as whites are feeding blacks(and morally feel compelled to do so), excess black population will gain access to the West.

    Also, whites are addicted to pleasure, and their main pleasure comes from black music and black sports and black sex. So, whites have come to admire blacks. The bargain between whites and blacks is this. Whites are like ants who work to produce stuff but are lame at having fun. Blacks are grasshoppers who aren’t good at making stuff but know how to have fun and show white folks a good time.

    So, it’s not like blacks just leeching off whites. Blacks are offering a service to whites. Whites work to run economies and pay blacks to show them a good time.

    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don’t know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.

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    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don’t know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.
     
    Well other than the emboldened part, you're in the ballpark.
    , @joef
    You are only correct when applying this to millennial progeny of selfish single mother baby boomers. Their offspring lack self respect, and initiative, makes them very susceptible to always wanting to be entertained, and doing what the MSM tells them to do. They would die off from mass suicide once things get tough, and have to deal with daily dose of real hardship in their lives.

    As for the rest of us non blacks, we readily recognize that anything the afro american provides is unnecessary to our survival, and mostly next to useless. However, nonproductive afros would starve to death without our daily handouts. There is nothing we really need from you, but you need everything from us. The entertainment you believe afros provide is only considered as such by pandering liberals & manipulative leftist. And it is considered total junk by the rest of us.
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  94. Truth says:
    @anon
    Thank you for your non-answer answer.

    You’re asking a PhD level question expecting a See Jane Run answer.

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  95. Truth says:
    @joef
    They spent it mainly on the welfare state, then the military congressional complex (that President Eisenhower warned us about), to service the debt's interest rates, failing educational system, corporate subsidies, and finally other essential (and non essential) govt services.

    So they spend more on welfare for 40m black people, than they do for the military industrial complex?

    That’s funny, I guess every economic pie chart I have ever seen is wrong; not only wrong, but, like they put the decimal points in the wrong places, wrong. Thanks.

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    What pie charts are you looking at? The last I seen according to the CBO, medicaid is the fastest rising Federal Govt expense. And welfare is just not a Federal expense, every State, County, and urban government budget contributes to this ever expanding welfare state spending. State and local governments do not have national defense budgets. The accumulated size of this welfare state surpasses everything, and cannot be sustained indefinitely. States and municipalities will be the first to collapse under this unbearable financial burden.

    This runaway govt spending causes deficit spending, which is nothing more then spending money of the future (money that is essentially not produced yet). So essentially we are spending the financial resources of the unborn so we can live easy today. But eventually tomorrow arrives, the bill comes due, and we will have nothing to pay it back with. And like the past housing bubble, most everyone will ignore it until it becomes a crisis, and forced to live with its consequences (and then we will not be able to ignore anymore).

    Plus the amount you describe per person is easily understood once you divide it over time (because the taking of entitlements has become an endless process over multi generations), with the added costs of administrating it. The amount in question, per person, is not a one time payout, but administered over a long period of time (even if a mistake in numbers was made, the concept is the same).

    This potential financial wreck is like eating a bad diet, it tastes good in the beginning, but catches up with you in the end. And at that point no longer becomes worth it. All this because we are too collectively spoiled to tell ourselves no.

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  96. Truth says:
    @Anon
    That may be, but as long as whites are feeding blacks(and morally feel compelled to do so), excess black population will gain access to the West.

    Also, whites are addicted to pleasure, and their main pleasure comes from black music and black sports and black sex. So, whites have come to admire blacks. The bargain between whites and blacks is this. Whites are like ants who work to produce stuff but are lame at having fun. Blacks are grasshoppers who aren't good at making stuff but know how to have fun and show white folks a good time.

    So, it's not like blacks just leeching off whites. Blacks are offering a service to whites. Whites work to run economies and pay blacks to show them a good time.

    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don't know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.

    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don’t know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.

    Well other than the emboldened part, you’re in the ballpark.

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  97. joef says:
    @Truth
    So they spend more on welfare for 40m black people, than they do for the military industrial complex?

    That's funny, I guess every economic pie chart I have ever seen is wrong; not only wrong, but, like they put the decimal points in the wrong places, wrong. Thanks.

    What pie charts are you looking at? The last I seen according to the CBO, medicaid is the fastest rising Federal Govt expense. And welfare is just not a Federal expense, every State, County, and urban government budget contributes to this ever expanding welfare state spending. State and local governments do not have national defense budgets. The accumulated size of this welfare state surpasses everything, and cannot be sustained indefinitely. States and municipalities will be the first to collapse under this unbearable financial burden.

    This runaway govt spending causes deficit spending, which is nothing more then spending money of the future (money that is essentially not produced yet). So essentially we are spending the financial resources of the unborn so we can live easy today. But eventually tomorrow arrives, the bill comes due, and we will have nothing to pay it back with. And like the past housing bubble, most everyone will ignore it until it becomes a crisis, and forced to live with its consequences (and then we will not be able to ignore anymore).

    Plus the amount you describe per person is easily understood once you divide it over time (because the taking of entitlements has become an endless process over multi generations), with the added costs of administrating it. The amount in question, per person, is not a one time payout, but administered over a long period of time (even if a mistake in numbers was made, the concept is the same).

    This potential financial wreck is like eating a bad diet, it tastes good in the beginning, but catches up with you in the end. And at that point no longer becomes worth it. All this because we are too collectively spoiled to tell ourselves no.

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  98. But eventually tomorrow arrives, the bill comes due, and we will have nothing to pay it back with.

    Nope. I used to think that, but I realized that all the PTB have to do is educate the next generation about the value of money. Generational turnover makes the idea of a fixed value for the dollar unimportant.

    When hamburgers cost five hundred dollars, it will be irrelevant because the minimum wage will be fifteen hundred dollars per hour.

    By the time that happens, all employment will be sitting at a desk, in some government University, in a cubicle, shuffling global warming statistics, and generating the next doomsday scenario.

    As long as the energy production keeps up, nothing much will happen. On the other hand, any serious energy shortage can result in massive economic dislocation.

    Value is not dollars, it is usable stuff.

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    Not really. You're correct that value is measured by usable stuff, but that's assuming that the amount of usable stuff is still as accessible for the majority.

    http://www.mybudget360.com/cost-of-living-1975-and-2017-inflation-purchasing-power-dollar/

    Even Robert Reich, who's pretty much a hardcore leftist, has gone into this and noted that the first effort to hedge this was to increase female employment(thus household income and the double income trap), and the second was to increase overall debt levels.

    Both have consequences, and neither really solve essential structural issues. There aren't replicators making endless stuff for free at the end of the day.

    , @joef
    I am sorry but I must disagree on several points. You cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet. The whole concept of economics is the issue of scarcity and how you distribute limited resources to society. Energy and products are not unlimited. The Economic concept of the Production Possibility Frontier basically demonstrates that only so much product can be produced from inputs available. And once you choose to produce product/service A, you remove that resource from the ability to produce product/service B. You cannot provide all things simultaneously, and that is what the whole argument of guns and butter is about.

    If you read history you will find many examples how debt destroyed civilizations. One of the byproducts of debt is inflation that attempts to devalue what is owed, but also devalues a household's income & savings. This results in a diminished ability to buy the necessities of life. Worse case of this problem is when hyperinflation hits. Money must represent by something for the general public to have faith in the currency to actually represent value and purchase something.

    Our debt is bigger than our annual economic output, and money supply available. Even if we stopped deficit spending now, and put one trillion a year to pay off our National Debt (not including other public/private debt, and unfunded liabilities), at lets just say 3% interest, the debt will grow another 16T during the 20 years we spent paying off the original amount (of 20T). [Even going back to the Gold Standard can not save us from this because it is estimated at the current money supply, Gold would be approx $7000 an ounce, which is quite far from the original Bretton Woods Agreement of $35 and ounce.] Wishful thinking is not going to help out of this one. The bill will eventually come due, like everywhere else this was tried.

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  99. @HallParvey

    But eventually tomorrow arrives, the bill comes due, and we will have nothing to pay it back with.
     
    Nope. I used to think that, but I realized that all the PTB have to do is educate the next generation about the value of money. Generational turnover makes the idea of a fixed value for the dollar unimportant.

    When hamburgers cost five hundred dollars, it will be irrelevant because the minimum wage will be fifteen hundred dollars per hour.

    By the time that happens, all employment will be sitting at a desk, in some government University, in a cubicle, shuffling global warming statistics, and generating the next doomsday scenario.

    As long as the energy production keeps up, nothing much will happen. On the other hand, any serious energy shortage can result in massive economic dislocation.

    Value is not dollars, it is usable stuff.

    Not really. You’re correct that value is measured by usable stuff, but that’s assuming that the amount of usable stuff is still as accessible for the majority.

    http://www.mybudget360.com/cost-of-living-1975-and-2017-inflation-purchasing-power-dollar/

    Even Robert Reich, who’s pretty much a hardcore leftist, has gone into this and noted that the first effort to hedge this was to increase female employment(thus household income and the double income trap), and the second was to increase overall debt levels.

    Both have consequences, and neither really solve essential structural issues. There aren’t replicators making endless stuff for free at the end of the day.

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  100. joef says:
    @Anon
    That may be, but as long as whites are feeding blacks(and morally feel compelled to do so), excess black population will gain access to the West.

    Also, whites are addicted to pleasure, and their main pleasure comes from black music and black sports and black sex. So, whites have come to admire blacks. The bargain between whites and blacks is this. Whites are like ants who work to produce stuff but are lame at having fun. Blacks are grasshoppers who aren't good at making stuff but know how to have fun and show white folks a good time.

    So, it's not like blacks just leeching off whites. Blacks are offering a service to whites. Whites work to run economies and pay blacks to show them a good time.

    So, Truth the grasshopper is like Sidney Poitier in Lilies of the Field. He goes from white community to white community, where white people work hard but don't know how to have fun. So, he shows them fun by humping all the white women and buggering all the white cuck men. He gets their money, and white folks get fun from him.

    You are only correct when applying this to millennial progeny of selfish single mother baby boomers. Their offspring lack self respect, and initiative, makes them very susceptible to always wanting to be entertained, and doing what the MSM tells them to do. They would die off from mass suicide once things get tough, and have to deal with daily dose of real hardship in their lives.

    As for the rest of us non blacks, we readily recognize that anything the afro american provides is unnecessary to our survival, and mostly next to useless. However, nonproductive afros would starve to death without our daily handouts. There is nothing we really need from you, but you need everything from us. The entertainment you believe afros provide is only considered as such by pandering liberals & manipulative leftist. And it is considered total junk by the rest of us.

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    That's funny; yet somehow we were around before you.
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  101. Truth says:
    @joef
    You are only correct when applying this to millennial progeny of selfish single mother baby boomers. Their offspring lack self respect, and initiative, makes them very susceptible to always wanting to be entertained, and doing what the MSM tells them to do. They would die off from mass suicide once things get tough, and have to deal with daily dose of real hardship in their lives.

    As for the rest of us non blacks, we readily recognize that anything the afro american provides is unnecessary to our survival, and mostly next to useless. However, nonproductive afros would starve to death without our daily handouts. There is nothing we really need from you, but you need everything from us. The entertainment you believe afros provide is only considered as such by pandering liberals & manipulative leftist. And it is considered total junk by the rest of us.

    That’s funny; yet somehow we were around before you.

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    ...somehow we were around before you
     
    Not sure that is much of a zinger. The prokaryotic was around before the eukaryotic; the gymnosperm was around before the angiosperm.

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth, then you are indeed the once and future kings.

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  102. joef says:
    @HallParvey

    But eventually tomorrow arrives, the bill comes due, and we will have nothing to pay it back with.
     
    Nope. I used to think that, but I realized that all the PTB have to do is educate the next generation about the value of money. Generational turnover makes the idea of a fixed value for the dollar unimportant.

    When hamburgers cost five hundred dollars, it will be irrelevant because the minimum wage will be fifteen hundred dollars per hour.

    By the time that happens, all employment will be sitting at a desk, in some government University, in a cubicle, shuffling global warming statistics, and generating the next doomsday scenario.

    As long as the energy production keeps up, nothing much will happen. On the other hand, any serious energy shortage can result in massive economic dislocation.

    Value is not dollars, it is usable stuff.

    I am sorry but I must disagree on several points. You cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet. The whole concept of economics is the issue of scarcity and how you distribute limited resources to society. Energy and products are not unlimited. The Economic concept of the Production Possibility Frontier basically demonstrates that only so much product can be produced from inputs available. And once you choose to produce product/service A, you remove that resource from the ability to produce product/service B. You cannot provide all things simultaneously, and that is what the whole argument of guns and butter is about.

    If you read history you will find many examples how debt destroyed civilizations. One of the byproducts of debt is inflation that attempts to devalue what is owed, but also devalues a household’s income & savings. This results in a diminished ability to buy the necessities of life. Worse case of this problem is when hyperinflation hits. Money must represent by something for the general public to have faith in the currency to actually represent value and purchase something.

    Our debt is bigger than our annual economic output, and money supply available. Even if we stopped deficit spending now, and put one trillion a year to pay off our National Debt (not including other public/private debt, and unfunded liabilities), at lets just say 3% interest, the debt will grow another 16T during the 20 years we spent paying off the original amount (of 20T). [Even going back to the Gold Standard can not save us from this because it is estimated at the current money supply, Gold would be approx $7000 an ounce, which is quite far from the original Bretton Woods Agreement of $35 and ounce.] Wishful thinking is not going to help out of this one. The bill will eventually come due, like everywhere else this was tried.

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  103. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian
    Care, shmare. Notice USS Nimitz, which never bombed Vietnam. Notice the TRAM pod under the nose, that didn't come out until 1978 or 1979. The bombs falling are about to re-arrange the sand in Fallon, Nevada off the NAS there. I was kidding about this plane because I could tell you were trending pacifist. But back in the 1960s, the A6 Intruder dropped more bombs on Vietnam than all the tonnage dropped in WW2 and maybe Korea combined. Do I care what they did? Nah, didn't have anything to do with me even after Vietnam as long as the ejection seats worked when called up.

    Yeah, I gave em the full Monty, 6 years. I did ejection seats, LOX and air conditioning, wiggled the flaps and bombs as the planes pulled up to the catapults to see if anything would fall off before launch..

    Back then, it was service, it was a country before the fall. From a soldier or sailor's standpoint today, the shit hole EEOC society we have, the ugly, fat, tatted up sluts a young man has to come back home to, the hateful blacks, a landscape of illegals that gobble up our bounty and hate the U.S. anyway, there's little to defend. There is nothing redeemable in the U.S today, the government and society are so gross and corrupt I wouldn't defend it today. Mom, apple pie, Chevrolet? Those pies are now Hostess, the typical Mom is a thrice-married divorced slut and Chevrolet doesn't build in my country. What's worthwhile to defend? Nothing. The diversity and old, ugly and obsolete slutty feminists that hate White men are no more deserving of my help than the wasp I gladly spray Raid on. The U.S. is just a tool of enrichment for the Jews in the MIC. Every bomb dropped, some profit.

    I like the cut of your jib sir.

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  104. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Life will go on. Nothing will change in Africa. Wakanda or whatever the name of this movie is will allow black people just another chance to escape reality for two hours. A few Jews will make good profits. A couple blacks actors will make some dough.

    None of this money will go towards helping blacks. Taxpayer money is for that. Although no amount of money helps.

    Way to go Wakanda. False hope better than no hope, I guess.

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  105. Wally says:
    @niteranger
    Most of this nonsense stems from the Black Athena agenda. The blacks led by the genus of Al Sharpton believe the Greeks stole everything from the Africans. They actually believe they had massive civilizations in Africa and we the Europeans lied about them. Of course, they believe the Egyptians were all black including the Pharaohs. Genetic evidence however, seems to show that the Pharaohs are even more Middle Eastern than the general population of Egypt.

    The political correct intrusion of this type of nonsense has basically destroyed anthropology and archeology as far as I'm concerned.

    “The political correct intrusion of this type of nonsense has basically destroyed anthropology and archeology as far as I’m concerned.”

    Wait until the Marxists & so called “native Americans” get a load of this:

    Stone Age Hunters From Europe Discovered America https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/01/no_author/new-evidence-suggests-stone-age-hunters-from-europe-discovered-america/

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  106. Biff says:

    Unfortunately, most people do believe the garbage coming out of the entertainment industry – including “news” channels.
    What fucking dump it has created!
    Walking dead voters with children – there is no hope.

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  107. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    Creating life isn’t the problem. Sustaining it is.

    If all whites vanished, Africa would be at pre-1500 population levels in twenty or thirty years.

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  108. bomag says:
    @Talha
    Why should he? By which metric are you asking? Judging by reproductive capacity, Black countries are doing fine - Europeans and others are imploding. Sure others have nuclear power plants and nanotechnology, but all the skyscrapers and bullet trains in the world don’t mean a thing if they can’t help you in survival-of-the-fittest, right? It’s just extra weight.

    Peace.

    Judging by reproductive capacity…

    Which is on track to consume the entire planet, so I’m not sure that is something to tout.

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    Hey bomag,

    I don't believe that's going to happen. Africa will get crowded for sure, but the continent - if used wisely - can sustain many more Africans (many of whom live on basic subsistence level - your household likely consumes the equivalent energy per year as a small African village). It likely cannot sustain anything on the industrial scale of the West.

    If the West doesn't want them in their neck of the woods, then don't allow them to immigrate and simply leave the continent alone.

    But let's say your theory does play out. Once the dust settles, that will certainly solve the question of which race was superior, right? Who thinks Neandrathals were the awesomest thing on the planet?

    Don't know if you ever checked out this album - it was fairly good:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_a_Black_Planet

    Peace.
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  109. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    What ‘Superhero’ fantasy will next come out of Hollywood? Transgender Man? Or should that be Transgender Woman?
    No, that doesn’t work either.

    At least we’ll know his/her/its cloak will be rainbow-colored.

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  110. George says:

    The Panther’s can’t save us now

    https://catalyst-journal.com/vol1/no1/panthers-cant-save-us-cedric-johnson

    BTW, Black Panther is a comic book, it is as bad as any other comic book. The good news is all comic book heroes promote helplessness among their readers. Basically, you can’t solve your problems unless you are extraterrestrial or bitten by a radioactive spider and god for bid you band together with your fellow citizens. No, wait for the government and if that doesn’t work, Superman will fix it.

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    What you wrote is a little too advanced for this crowd, Dawg. Try Stormfront.
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  111. bomag says:
    @Truth

    The unrestrained afro animosity & parasitical lifestyle, along with our unsustainable public/private debt levels, is our biggest national problems.
     
    Dude, that was the funniest comment yet this week!

    Nice that you tied them in together in a tight little bundle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o

    Just because you find something funny does not mean it is not a salient feature.

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    The guy basically said the Military Industrial Complex was created to fund black welfare. That's some funny shit
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  112. To anyone that thinks blacks will think this is fantasy like the X-Men or Thor (I’m talking to in particular but cannot reply as I don’t comment enough), look at the headline from the black journalist’s column. “The ‘Black Panther’ Trailer Shows What Africa Would Have Been if White People Didn’t Destroy It.” That headline has at least 2 lies in it. First, white people did not destroy Africa. The only reason Africa’s population is exploding is because of whites. Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites.

    Its fairly easy to predict that at least one white person will be viciously attacked near a screening by “youths” screamimg something like “You stole our Wakanda and sheeeit.” Bank on it.

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    To anyone that thinks blacks will think this is fantasy like the X-Men or Thor...
     
    Bomag, check that, I scrolled down two inches and found one that was funnier.
    , @CCZ
    "Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites."

    'Day Zero' water shut-off looms in South Africa and locals queue up at taps as reality sets in that Cape Town may be the world's first major city to run dry.
    The country's showcase city, Cape Town is famously perched near two oceans.
    Nearly four million residents are anxious they will be left without running water.
    Security guards monitored how much water people queuing up were taking.

    The [opposition] party says the national government, run by the ruling African National Congress party, has failed to deliver water to all municipalities as required by law.

    Nomvula Mokonyane, the water and sanitation minister, counters that the city should do more to crack down on people using too much water.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-5315733/Day-Zero-Water-shut-looms-South-Africas-Cape-Town.html
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  113. bomag says:
    @Truth

    All just part of the giant ponzi scheme to support the unsupportable afro entitlement system (and other things). Moving money around in this giant shell game in the attempt to keep this going causes most (but not all) of these accounting anomalies.
     
    Excellent. Now I know why they created Wall Street. I was always a little fuzzy on that.

    Except for one thing; that missing 9 trillion dollars adds up to a total of $225,000 for each and every on of the 40,000,000 white people in America; what did they spend it on?

    that missing 9 trillion dollars…

    Don’t be fooled by the title of your linked piece.

    The money is not “lost”. It is quite visibly on the books.

    The IG was asked upon what it was spent. That she didn’t provide an answer speaks to the quality of gov’t help and the nature of the system.

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    ...And your insinuation is?

    Because the HIGH estimation of US welfare spending is one trillion dollars (a very small percentage of the which in all 126 welfare programs, goes to black people, by the way).

    So where is the other 8 trillion dollars?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/01/12/no-we-dont-spend-1-trillion-on-welfare-each-year/?utm_term=.c34220aaf905
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  114. bomag says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    …life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    That cockroaches will ultimately prevail is not something to brag about.

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  115. bomag says:
    @Truth
    That's funny; yet somehow we were around before you.

    …somehow we were around before you

    Not sure that is much of a zinger. The prokaryotic was around before the eukaryotic; the gymnosperm was around before the angiosperm.

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth, then you are indeed the once and future kings.

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    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth
     
    ..In other words, what virile and athletic white men call, "vacation."
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  116. notice says:

    I’ve not physically been to a cinema since the last Hobbit movie (Five Armies or some such subtitle).
    I just refuse to give (((Hollywood))) my money, or anyone who promotes Hollywood. If every white did what I’m doing, in about a decade we might have a gentile-run studio, with gentile directors and actors. I no longer watch late night talk shows, have eschewed MTV for 20 years, and haven’t sat through more than 5 NFL games this entire season.

    More whites need to learn permanent boycotts can work. Certain directors and actors are permanently boycotted by yours truly and won’t get my coin even if they make a Casablanca-level movie (don’t worry, they can’t….not talented enough). Put ‘em outta business folks.

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    and haven’t sat through more than 5 NFL games this entire season.
     
    LOL, Bro, I've met WN during my time here who were hard men, but your monk-like determination is going to bring the whole system down on its ear! Are you sure you're ready for that?
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  117. @anon
    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

    I think “Truth’s” dismissal of Kersey’s piece is foolish.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They’re fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    American blacks however are trained from the cradle to stoke their grievances, both those which are historically accurate (however remote) and those which are pure imagination (i.e. that secret codes on food packaging certifies production by the KKK or is an intent to make blacks sterile). They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something. (You know how racists love making blacks more shiftless and dependent upon welfare and crime perpetrated against whites).

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him. And given his natural limitations, he’s not going to try to build a new WAKANDA from the ground up, he’s going to rob or assault someone to assuage his sense of deprivation and entitlement.

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    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They’re fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.
     
    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher





    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can't be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).
    , @Truth

    They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Alliance-Contras-Cocaine-Explosion/dp/1522694390


    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him.
     
    Oh, kinda like you did when they cast a Knee-grow in the (your words) "fantastical goof", non-existing world of "Thor?"

    OK that's enough for now. You guys are keeping me young, that's for sure.
    , @Talha
    Hey Alec,

    They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something.
     
    No - it was to help fund right-wing groups in South America. Black Americans and their communities were considered disposable for the bigger picture. This article talks about the man who investigated the story (which I remember reading when it first came out), Gary Webb, who apparently committed suicide with two gunshots to the head:
    "In 2004, Webb was found dead at the age of 49 from two gunshot wounds to the head. Police ruled it a suicide."
    http://time.com/3482909/this-is-the-real-story-behind-kill-the-messenger/

    Dr. Ron Paul thought it was a sound theory; CIA uses black market drug money to fund operations that cannot get official approval:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hl5zt3MvzE

    What do you think the CIA is up to - setting up kids' bounce-house parties?

    Peace.
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  118. Tiny Duck says:
    @Anon
    Blacks are most successful at creating life. In the end, life-creators will prevail over material-creators.

    Haha owned

    I like how all these white supremacists cannot account for the fact that white girls prefer Black Men as sexual partners and fathers of their children

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  119. joef says:

    To summarize this unfortunate reality: Generally, Non Blacks build & produce, and afro americans destroy & consume. This may not be pleasant to say, but that does not make it untrue. You may read academic obfuscations, and listen to MSM pandering to the contrary, but if you are bold enough to observe from hundreds of hours of empirical experience (not liberal tokens like “I walked through a black neighborhood once”, or “I knew some black people”, or “I learned about black people in school”, or “I saw them on tv”, or other trivial life experience), then the above statement becomes undeniable.

    If afros themselves don’t like this reality to be recognized, then do something about it, and change your ways. Otherwise the truth will always eventually win out over denial of reality (especially when it produces more & more negative results); and then it will be the end of the line for your freeloading crime ridden ways. The power of reform is your choice to make, and if you don’t, then you will own the consequences of the eventual destructive backlash. And you will only have yourselves to blame for it (along with all the manipulative leftist whites who treated you as useful idiots). I do not hold out much hope for afro americans to change, but you never know. Otherwise prepare for this ending very badly.

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  120. prusmc says:
    @joef
    Yes you are probably correct as to the root cause of afro american animosity. However without the fertile eagerness of afro americans to hate whitey without cause, it wouldn't have been able to develop to the level it is today. Afros really believe in the mythology of white privilege, and want supposed 400 years of payback for something they never experienced directly themselves (slavery), nor any non black living today is responsible for. Yes leftist/elites etc have been manipulating this black rage idiocy for the last half century now, but they will not be able to fully control this Frankenstein Monster, and we will all pay the price for it (including the afros themselves).

    I was raised/lived in a city neighborhood, and school system, where I had frequent contact with ghetto afros. It would be a gross understatement to say they were not pleasant people to be around. Most of the non blacks in my area knew that afros feel justified in using extreme violence to achieve casual goals. They also observed how afros would routinely litter, and publicly urinate, on the streets. Ghetto afros were equivalent to predators, and thus looked for easy targets where they had some unfair advantage over their victims. Liberal victims tried to 'reason' with them which usually achieved some type of bad result. Racial realist non blacks made themselves hard targets that the afros generally didn't want to mess with.

    When this situation explodes (we are not realistically paying off all our combined debt, so deteriorating insolvency will be more and more the norm), afros will want a race war. They are usually accustomed to feckless society giving in to all their demands, so they will believe that it will be easy. When the white man does not produce hidden magic money, they will want to riot, loot, burn, gang rape, carjack, and home invade. If gasoline is readily available they will attack the suburbs, but eventually the harsh winter, and lack of food resources, will start to diminish their numbers. As the state itself fails, and the possibility of prosecutions diminish, whites will not fear fighting back against afro aggressions. The final result will be afros losing (badly) the race war they would be so desirous to start. However the nation itself will be a left over mess.

    When will this happen? Probably not before government guts every other service they provide to the rest of normal society, in order to pay for unearned afro entitlements. The canary in the coal mine will be large scale: reductions in garbage collection, fire dept station houses, road repair, hospitals, public transportation, urban policing, military bases, national guard units, prisons, water supply, sewage, street lights, etc in the desperate attempt to sustain the unsustainable. This will be followed (or occur simultaneously) with scarcity which will result in long lines for gasoline/food/banks. With drastically reduced local govt forces (especially if they are not getting paid) to contain afro violence, coupled with a diminished ability to provide welfare, thats when it will begin. Thanks for correcting my typo.

    I don’t think it will come to a point where Whites will ever fight-back. Maybe 50 years ago maybe, today forget about it. Whites have been indoctrinated that is they owe all and are culpable for all the misfortunes of Blacks. I agree that the types of government services noted by Josef will be cut back and eventually discontinued before even the slightest reduction will be made to payments to the underclass. There is a lot of ruin in the country before we reach this stage.

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    I agree with much of what you are saying. This will be a ugly affair however it occurs (unless we change direction, but there is no indication that will happen). Many Whites are pathetically indoctrinated with liberal white guilt, so they will mostly fall in the ranks of willing victims. But afro themselves, as I and others observed, are mostly full of bravado and bluster, than actual real ability. As I read one response to me say "afro americans are aggressive, but not courageous". Afros believe they are tough when they attack weak helpless victims. But they naturally avoid anything that comprises a real challenge. Without our welfare support, they completely lack the ability to maintain themselves for a prolonged period of time. This is not exactly a winning formula for long term success. Whereas their brethren in Africa are a somewhat more adept at taking care of themselves on the basic level, afro americans are mere dependents who believe their own nonsense propaganda of afro greatness.
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  121. I for one am disgusted with these “superhero” movies. They are the epitome of the Worship of Man as the measure of All Things. This is a blatant violation of the First and Second Commandments. These “messiah” figures (Superman) or Jewish golems (the Hulk or The Thing aka Benjamin J. Grimm a Jew hero) were created by non-Christian Hebrews (Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster / Stan Lee etc.) and sold to children to create a new altar for their vain imaginations to take them away from their Christian religion given to them by their Gentile forefathers.

    I don’t see these going away in the next 20 years, in fact I see them being a cultural incubator for Transhumanism (eternal life via machines) to take flight and lead people to want to become the Bionic Man because the body God gave you was flawed because God is mean and He doesn’t want man to be able to get out from underneath the thumb of Death thus avoiding interment in Hell. This will fail of course, but so many will be lead to destruction. Narrow is the gate…

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    OK, finally a man with some sense.

    Boy is it rare here.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Excuse me:

    1050's should be 1950's.
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  122. Truth says:
    @George
    The Panther's can't save us now

    https://catalyst-journal.com/vol1/no1/panthers-cant-save-us-cedric-johnson

    https://soundcloud.com/deadpundits/ep-15-the-panthers-cant-save-us-now-w-cedric-johnson-1

    BTW, Black Panther is a comic book, it is as bad as any other comic book. The good news is all comic book heroes promote helplessness among their readers. Basically, you can't solve your problems unless you are extraterrestrial or bitten by a radioactive spider and god for bid you band together with your fellow citizens. No, wait for the government and if that doesn't work, Superman will fix it.

    What you wrote is a little too advanced for this crowd, Dawg. Try Stormfront.

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    too advanced for this crowd... Try Stormfront
     
    They're smarter than us? Harsh!!
    , @George
    Stormfront? I guess you are a troll, but I don't get the StormFront reference, can you explain it?

    Not that it matters but this is Johnson's cv.
    https://aast.uic.edu/aast/people/faculty/cedric-johnson
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  123. Truth says:
    @bomag
    Just because you find something funny does not mean it is not a salient feature.

    The guy basically said the Military Industrial Complex was created to fund black welfare. That’s some funny shit

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  124. Truth says:
    @Dr. Krieger
    To anyone that thinks blacks will think this is fantasy like the X-Men or Thor (I'm talking to @Truth in particular but cannot reply as I don't comment enough), look at the headline from the black journalist's column. "The 'Black Panther' Trailer Shows What Africa Would Have Been if White People Didn't Destroy It." That headline has at least 2 lies in it. First, white people did not destroy Africa. The only reason Africa's population is exploding is because of whites. Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites.

    Its fairly easy to predict that at least one white person will be viciously attacked near a screening by "youths" screamimg something like "You stole our Wakanda and sheeeit." Bank on it.

    To anyone that thinks blacks will think this is fantasy like the X-Men or Thor…

    Bomag, check that, I scrolled down two inches and found one that was funnier.

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  125. Jake says:

    The Left should be allowed to prove that its fantasy about blacks is true. There is only 1 way to do that: have all black nations and all white nations.

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  126. Truth says:
    @bomag

    that missing 9 trillion dollars...
     
    Don't be fooled by the title of your linked piece.

    The money is not "lost". It is quite visibly on the books.

    The IG was asked upon what it was spent. That she didn't provide an answer speaks to the quality of gov't help and the nature of the system.

    …And your insinuation is?

    Because the HIGH estimation of US welfare spending is one trillion dollars (a very small percentage of the which in all 126 welfare programs, goes to black people, by the way).

    So where is the other 8 trillion dollars?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/01/12/no-we-dont-spend-1-trillion-on-welfare-each-year/?utm_term=.c34220aaf905

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    So where is the other 8 trillion dollars?
     
    These are two separate things. The eight trillion largely refers to the financial institution bailout in the wake of the circa 2008 financial crisis. Odious as that was, it was a one time payout to a generally productive industry.

    One trillion in welfare goes out every year until the end of time.

    a very small percentage of the... welfare programs, goes to black people
     
    The complaint is in the percentage use by that population.
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  127. Talha says:
    @bomag

    Judging by reproductive capacity...
     
    Which is on track to consume the entire planet, so I'm not sure that is something to tout.

    Hey bomag,

    I don’t believe that’s going to happen. Africa will get crowded for sure, but the continent – if used wisely – can sustain many more Africans (many of whom live on basic subsistence level – your household likely consumes the equivalent energy per year as a small African village). It likely cannot sustain anything on the industrial scale of the West.

    If the West doesn’t want them in their neck of the woods, then don’t allow them to immigrate and simply leave the continent alone.

    But let’s say your theory does play out. Once the dust settles, that will certainly solve the question of which race was superior, right? Who thinks Neandrathals were the awesomest thing on the planet?

    Don’t know if you ever checked out this album – it was fairly good:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_a_Black_Planet

    Peace.

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    Ah yes- the talentless 'rappers' (redundant, I know) known as Public Assistance. My favorite is their album titled "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Up"
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  128. Truth says:
    @bomag

    ...somehow we were around before you
     
    Not sure that is much of a zinger. The prokaryotic was around before the eukaryotic; the gymnosperm was around before the angiosperm.

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth, then you are indeed the once and future kings.

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth

    ..In other words, what virile and athletic white men call, “vacation.”

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    The coolest vacation in the world- two weeks in the Savannah, hunting wildebeest with Andre Iguodala, Kenny Smith, and Anthony Davis (who looks like one), with spears, bows and arrows. White men don't even know how to hunt anymore. Just shoot each other in the face and shitz.
    , @bomag

    ...what virile and athletic white men call, “vacation.”
     
    LOL. Good one.

    I've always thought the "vacation" was to remind them to go home and keep the electric grid up and running.
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  129. Truth says:
    @notice
    I've not physically been to a cinema since the last Hobbit movie (Five Armies or some such subtitle).
    I just refuse to give (((Hollywood))) my money, or anyone who promotes Hollywood. If every white did what I'm doing, in about a decade we might have a gentile-run studio, with gentile directors and actors. I no longer watch late night talk shows, have eschewed MTV for 20 years, and haven't sat through more than 5 NFL games this entire season.

    More whites need to learn permanent boycotts can work. Certain directors and actors are permanently boycotted by yours truly and won't get my coin even if they make a Casablanca-level movie (don't worry, they can't....not talented enough). Put 'em outta business folks.

    and haven’t sat through more than 5 NFL games this entire season.

    LOL, Bro, I’ve met WN during my time here who were hard men, but your monk-like determination is going to bring the whole system down on its ear! Are you sure you’re ready for that?

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  130. Truth says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

     

    I think "Truth's" dismissal of Kersey's piece is foolish.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They're fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    American blacks however are trained from the cradle to stoke their grievances, both those which are historically accurate (however remote) and those which are pure imagination (i.e. that secret codes on food packaging certifies production by the KKK or is an intent to make blacks sterile). They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something. (You know how racists love making blacks more shiftless and dependent upon welfare and crime perpetrated against whites).

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him. And given his natural limitations, he's not going to try to build a new WAKANDA from the ground up, he's going to rob or assault someone to assuage his sense of deprivation and entitlement.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They’re fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher

    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can’t be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).

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    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher

    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can’t be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).
     
    You're really good at not addressing the point made by your interlocutors. I still can't tell if this is intentional or a function of your inferior intelligence.
    , @bomag

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher
     
    That's gotta be worth some nerd points.
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  131. bomag says:
    @Truth
    What you wrote is a little too advanced for this crowd, Dawg. Try Stormfront.

    too advanced for this crowd… Try Stormfront

    They’re smarter than us? Harsh!!

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  132. Hopefully this movie will inspire all the amazing black people in America to move back to Africa. They’ve done so much to help America (and Western Europe, South America), it’s time for these amazing people to help their own tribe, return to lead Africa to the promised land.

    Make Africa Great Again!

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    Someone should drop such leaflets on blacks living in USA and Europe (as well as those crossing the Mediterranean sea right now). Maybe distribute 'I am goin back to Africa permanently to use my great talents to turn it into Wakanda and I will take one SJW Whitey with me' T shirts outside the movie theaters. I hope this works. Fingers crossed.

    Besides White SJWs could be inspired to go permanently too to 'understand the issues and make a difference'.

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  133. Truth says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

     

    I think "Truth's" dismissal of Kersey's piece is foolish.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They're fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    American blacks however are trained from the cradle to stoke their grievances, both those which are historically accurate (however remote) and those which are pure imagination (i.e. that secret codes on food packaging certifies production by the KKK or is an intent to make blacks sterile). They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something. (You know how racists love making blacks more shiftless and dependent upon welfare and crime perpetrated against whites).

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him. And given his natural limitations, he's not going to try to build a new WAKANDA from the ground up, he's going to rob or assault someone to assuage his sense of deprivation and entitlement.

    They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something.

    https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Alliance-Contras-Cocaine-Explosion/dp/1522694390

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him.

    Oh, kinda like you did when they cast a Knee-grow in the (your words) “fantastical goof”, non-existing world of “Thor?”

    OK that’s enough for now. You guys are keeping me young, that’s for sure.

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  134. @KenH
    So blacks will emerge from the theaters thinking "Not only wuz we kangs, but we still iz kangs!" No doubt Beyonce, Jay-Z and Mad Maxine Waters will be huge fans of this movie since they're all black powa supporters and wannabees. It will be promoted on CNN and MSNBC.

    But since it only appeals to blacks and since blacks prefer pirated DVD's to paying at the theater, it will probably be a box office bomb which is secondary or tertiary objective anyway since (((Hollywood))) is more concerned with the racial message it sends to blacks than the meager profits it reaps.

    The creators of the Black Panther character and mythical Wakanda were not black since they generally lack imagination for such things.

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian

    2) of course! Only God’s chosen people can have such imagination, talent and magnanimity. They are put on this earth to lead Africans to the promised land.

    Make Africa Great, if not Again, then at least For Once!

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  135. Truth says:
    @Wyatt Pendleton
    I for one am disgusted with these "superhero" movies. They are the epitome of the Worship of Man as the measure of All Things. This is a blatant violation of the First and Second Commandments. These "messiah" figures (Superman) or Jewish golems (the Hulk or The Thing aka Benjamin J. Grimm a Jew hero) were created by non-Christian Hebrews (Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster / Stan Lee etc.) and sold to children to create a new altar for their vain imaginations to take them away from their Christian religion given to them by their Gentile forefathers.

    I don't see these going away in the next 20 years, in fact I see them being a cultural incubator for Transhumanism (eternal life via machines) to take flight and lead people to want to become the Bionic Man because the body God gave you was flawed because God is mean and He doesn't want man to be able to get out from underneath the thumb of Death thus avoiding interment in Hell. This will fail of course, but so many will be lead to destruction. Narrow is the gate...

    OK, finally a man with some sense.

    Boy is it rare here.

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  136. But journalists and activists seem to be taking it seriously, believing it has importance for real world politics.

    LOL.. Baloney. Most of the article is a strawman. Black Panther is routine comic book stuff that has been around since the 1960s with Stan Lee and the crew. Few are taking the Black Panther seriously. Oh sure a some people may riff off the trailer to talk about racism, colonialism etc to fill their daily quota of blog posts, and milk some tweets off it, but all realize its fantasy, just like the mystical kingdom of white Atlantis, or white Dr Doom’s Lavteria [sic]. Must be a slow day for Kersey to try to prime “the base” on this.. lol
    ———————–

    For American civic nationalists, Black Panther is an ominous sign. Like the National Football League, the movie industry is another American institution that seems to be dividing along racial lines, with whites alone being warned away from embracing racial identity. The effectiveness of Black Panther’s pro-black marketing strategy is a startling contrast to how whites react to pop culture: they generally don’t base their self-worth off films and are actively discouraged from “seeing themselves” as mythical heroes.

    Also dubious. White people control the culture to such an extent that they don;t have to explicitly holler about white identity. White is “normal” everything else is an “other.” And white culture heroes are celebrated primarily. Hell look at the comic book world=- its white heroes front and center. Most of the blacks are second string characters- even the panther in the overall Marvel universe compared to Thor, Spiderman etc. Having such dominance, why should white people be pumping up any “Aryan” fistpumps? That would be a lame strategy. Once again, Kersey’ spiel is rather a thin “stretch”.

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  137. How many blacks can even fly an airplane, let alone a space ship? What percentage of commercial airline pilots and air force pilots are black? My guess is <1%. The equality police haven't made much noise about this, I guess they too want to survive a flight.

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    I guess they too want to survive a flight.
     
    LOL.
    How many kind compassionate 'refugee rights' supporting Senators, Congressmen and MPs (in Britain) allow those 'gifted' refugees into their own neighbourhoods?
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  138. Talha says:
    @Alec Leamas

    Your right. It would be stupid.

    So why do so many blacks essentially believe it? Like they believe they built the pyramids.

     

    I think "Truth's" dismissal of Kersey's piece is foolish.

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They're fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.

    American blacks however are trained from the cradle to stoke their grievances, both those which are historically accurate (however remote) and those which are pure imagination (i.e. that secret codes on food packaging certifies production by the KKK or is an intent to make blacks sterile). They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something. (You know how racists love making blacks more shiftless and dependent upon welfare and crime perpetrated against whites).

    Someone with an enhanced sense of grievance, historical illiteracy, and an 85 IQ is liable to take WAKANDA seriously and conceive of it as something stolen from him. And given his natural limitations, he's not going to try to build a new WAKANDA from the ground up, he's going to rob or assault someone to assuage his sense of deprivation and entitlement.

    Hey Alec,

    They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something.

    No – it was to help fund right-wing groups in South America. Black Americans and their communities were considered disposable for the bigger picture. This article talks about the man who investigated the story (which I remember reading when it first came out), Gary Webb, who apparently committed suicide with two gunshots to the head:
    “In 2004, Webb was found dead at the age of 49 from two gunshot wounds to the head. Police ruled it a suicide.”

    http://time.com/3482909/this-is-the-real-story-behind-kill-the-messenger/

    Dr. Ron Paul thought it was a sound theory; CIA uses black market drug money to fund operations that cannot get official approval:

    What do you think the CIA is up to – setting up kids’ bounce-house parties?

    Peace.

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    Also DEA officials called them out on it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_UbAmRGSYw

    The shocking thing to me is that - after all we have seen over the years, like the resurgence of opium in Afghanistan after we kicked out the Taliban - why people are shocked at the idea that there are wings of the CIA and other government agencies that make money off the drug trade?

    The estimated value of the cocaine market is nearly $90 Billion, heroin is $55 Billion - government agencies don't want in on this? Really? Because they say so?
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  139. George says:
    @Truth
    What you wrote is a little too advanced for this crowd, Dawg. Try Stormfront.

    Stormfront? I guess you are a troll, but I don’t get the StormFront reference, can you explain it?

    Not that it matters but this is Johnson’s cv.

    https://aast.uic.edu/aast/people/faculty/cedric-johnson

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    Who is this guy?
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  140. BB753 says:

    Actually, it’s a movie many of us race realists with a sense of humor look forward to watching for giggles. But I’m not watching any of the other Marvel od DC superhero crap. Hell, this film sounds as hilarious as “Coming to America” with Eddie Murphy as the prince of a super-developed fictional African knigdom called Zamunda!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_to_America

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  141. joef says:
    @prusmc
    I don't think it will come to a point where Whites will ever fight-back. Maybe 50 years ago maybe, today forget about it. Whites have been indoctrinated that is they owe all and are culpable for all the misfortunes of Blacks. I agree that the types of government services noted by Josef will be cut back and eventually discontinued before even the slightest reduction will be made to payments to the underclass. There is a lot of ruin in the country before we reach this stage.

    I agree with much of what you are saying. This will be a ugly affair however it occurs (unless we change direction, but there is no indication that will happen). Many Whites are pathetically indoctrinated with liberal white guilt, so they will mostly fall in the ranks of willing victims. But afro themselves, as I and others observed, are mostly full of bravado and bluster, than actual real ability. As I read one response to me say “afro americans are aggressive, but not courageous”. Afros believe they are tough when they attack weak helpless victims. But they naturally avoid anything that comprises a real challenge. Without our welfare support, they completely lack the ability to maintain themselves for a prolonged period of time. This is not exactly a winning formula for long term success. Whereas their brethren in Africa are a somewhat more adept at taking care of themselves on the basic level, afro americans are mere dependents who believe their own nonsense propaganda of afro greatness.

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  142. Hacienda says:
    @Truth

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth
     
    ..In other words, what virile and athletic white men call, "vacation."

    The coolest vacation in the world- two weeks in the Savannah, hunting wildebeest with Andre Iguodala, Kenny Smith, and Anthony Davis (who looks like one), with spears, bows and arrows. White men don’t even know how to hunt anymore. Just shoot each other in the face and shitz.

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  143. Ohhh brother . . .

    I take it I am supposed to believe that Superman, Aqua-man, Batman, Iron man, and the Green Hornet are real or at least possible — I take it Thor is the real icon here. Look, the idea is not to subjugate whites. It’s to round up a narrative that seeking right, doing right, and embracing concepts such as justice, truth etc ate not color or ethnic centric.

    I used to love Superman until white intellectual millennials got a hold of him and turned him into a petty thief, someone who abandons his child, has relations out wedlock, with suggestions that he might actually a same sex practitioner and so good that he must be killed by one of his own.

    I am not going to begrudge the fancies that somewhere in the bowels of African lore from Egypt to the Congo someone black might actually have super powers.

    And after what was done to Wonder Woman, anyone complaining about fanciful heroes is just passe’. the Amazonian Wonder Woman daughter of the Queen is going to caught dead muchless alone with a nude man —

    Sadly, whatever the scenario, despite all the privilege, IQ, status, education and wonderfulness, there is some truth that whites will routinely — muck-up a good thing with all manner of unintelligent and immoral choices — If there is one thing that all superheroes have in common is that there are plenty of bad white guys and gals with high IQ’s.

    If you can deconstruct Superman into such a mess – as whites have done — anything is possible.

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  144. Talha says:
    @Talha
    Hey Alec,

    They believe that the CIA put crack cocaine in black neighborhoods because of racism or something.
     
    No - it was to help fund right-wing groups in South America. Black Americans and their communities were considered disposable for the bigger picture. This article talks about the man who investigated the story (which I remember reading when it first came out), Gary Webb, who apparently committed suicide with two gunshots to the head:
    "In 2004, Webb was found dead at the age of 49 from two gunshot wounds to the head. Police ruled it a suicide."
    http://time.com/3482909/this-is-the-real-story-behind-kill-the-messenger/

    Dr. Ron Paul thought it was a sound theory; CIA uses black market drug money to fund operations that cannot get official approval:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hl5zt3MvzE

    What do you think the CIA is up to - setting up kids' bounce-house parties?

    Peace.

    Also DEA officials called them out on it:

    The shocking thing to me is that – after all we have seen over the years, like the resurgence of opium in Afghanistan after we kicked out the Taliban – why people are shocked at the idea that there are wings of the CIA and other government agencies that make money off the drug trade?

    The estimated value of the cocaine market is nearly $90 Billion, heroin is $55 Billion – government agencies don’t want in on this? Really? Because they say so?

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  145. @anonymous
    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

    You didn’t ask, but the aircraft is that work of martial art, the A-6 Intruder. A perfectly lovely creation, Grumman’s equivalent of Michelangelo’s David.

    Who were we bombing? We were bombing the communist North Vietnamese during their war of aggression against our allies, the South Vietnamese.

    Why were we bombing them? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

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    Good grief, Steve, how can you call the A-6 "a perfectly lovely creation................?"No self-respecting fighter pilot wanted to fly this two-seat airplane, side by side at that. That statement must have been tongue-in-cheek. Why were we bombing them? This is not the thread to answer that question, but I will say even our illustrious leaders at the time could not answer it.
    , @Allan
    The US was bombing Viet Nam because it was much less hassle to the GOP than a domestic movement to extirpate the left root and branch. It was also far more profitable to the MIC, and this choice liberated "conservatives" from the personal risks of a dirty civil war to reinforce the prime domino of domino theory by gettng Instead, conservatives obtained military slaves, mostly from the lower class and lower middle class, to be the men of conservatism by shooting foreign peasants indiscriminately and by helping college graduates to drop napalm and other stuff on the peasants.

    Eventually the Democrats turned off the funding for the war, which would have been impossible if the conservative sissy had insisted upon cleansing America First. So Viet Nam was lost to the commies, and during the next 40+ yrs the left took over much of America, too.

    Notice that the pattern would repeat itself after 9/11. The situation called for a thorough curbstomping of both Muslims and their leftist allies throughout the USA, but the GOP and its moronic voters (mostly servile Christians and urban money grubbers) thought that they knew better. Sure, there were some differences between this military adventure and the Viet Nam blunder. For example, there was no conscription, but the long term effects of the similar strategic blunder are becoming clear through changes like the great increase of the qty of Muslims in the USA since Sept 2001.

    I hope this answers your question.

    P.S. The police, who are "heroes" of conservatism, now make sure that the public is too intimidated to take action against the Muslims, much less the left.
    , @Kweli
    "North Vietnamese war of aggression against our allies...". Wow! Your sense of history would be the envy of US imperial warmongers at the height of their criminal war. The country is now one, ain't it?
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  146. Newbie says:
    @Anonymous
    I have seen Wakanda already.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl0b2LGf9jM

    A Boeing Jumbo jet (withdrawn from service) in 2030 India……need I say more?

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  147. If you do a little digging, you’ll find that George Soros is financing the movie.

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  148. @Dave Pinsen
    Not something I'd pay to see, but I don't have a problem with this. There's nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

    99.9% of Black History is fiction.

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    You may be right; was it because most of it's earlier version was written by Whites?
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  149. @KenH
    So blacks will emerge from the theaters thinking "Not only wuz we kangs, but we still iz kangs!" No doubt Beyonce, Jay-Z and Mad Maxine Waters will be huge fans of this movie since they're all black powa supporters and wannabees. It will be promoted on CNN and MSNBC.

    But since it only appeals to blacks and since blacks prefer pirated DVD's to paying at the theater, it will probably be a box office bomb which is secondary or tertiary objective anyway since (((Hollywood))) is more concerned with the racial message it sends to blacks than the meager profits it reaps.

    The creators of the Black Panther character and mythical Wakanda were not black since they generally lack imagination for such things.

    Pop quiz time. The creators were:

    1) Of Swedish descent
    2) Members of (((the tribe)))
    3) Of Asian descent
    4) Scottish with a dash of American Indian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby

    But since it only appeals to blacks…

    You’ll be surprised at number of white idiots who masturbate while watching it.

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  150. @Anon
    Unlikely that it was a Vietnam mission. That drumstick is off the Nimitz, according to the tail flash, and as far as I know, Nimitz wasn't deployed to Yankee/Dixie and didn't serve in the Vietnam war. I think the only nuclear boat that participated was Enterprise.

    It could have been Grenada or Panama – who knows. The 1st one being the war that made America stand tall again, and the 2nd proving George H. W was no wimp to be trifled with.

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  151. Head Start didn’t do it, affirmation action didn’t do, preferential hiring orders didn’t do it, maybe the movie will. Anything’s worth trying.

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  152. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    with whites alone being warned away from embracing racial identity

    They alone allow the others to warn them away from embracing racial identity.
    Therefore, they alone are warned away from it.

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  153. @Truth

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They’re fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.
     
    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher





    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can't be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).

    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher

    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can’t be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).

    You’re really good at not addressing the point made by your interlocutors. I still can’t tell if this is intentional or a function of your inferior intelligence.

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    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it's spelled) because it is "not real." Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black "god" in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?
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  154. @Jim Christian

    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.
     
    Hanoi, maybe near the Trail. Truck parks, picnics, hospitals, a temple near Hue where the VC would stockpile rice, ammo and whatnot. Whatever, who cares? They likely had several targets per hop, the plane would haul 26,000 lbs of bombs, you drop them in pairs, or in this case three, looks like all theirs is expended.. Whatever and whomever was on the frag list had a bad Navy day..

    Why ya ask?

    That plane is a Navy A-6 and no way could it carry a 26,000 lb bomb load. Not even close. I know, I was there.

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    Ooooh! You were there! Wow! So, the KA6 would carry 26,000 lbs of fuel in tanker config, full bag, five 2000 lb tanks, one to a station. Bomb-loading can be 20,000lbs if loading the centerline (belly) position with the appropriate weapons, 18,000 if carrying a centerline tank with fuel. I stand corrected. You an ordie? Pilot? With my hideous mistake on ordinance-loading, you probably don't wish to fly my seats? Heh..

    Well done, Sailor Simon. I'm into some degree of accuracy, too. Fair winds, following seas, all that stuff. You da bomb.

    http://www.seaforces.org/usnair/VA/Attack-Squadron-35-Dateien/image137.jpg

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  155. No Tyler Perry movie has broken the $100 million box office; his average from 16 wide-release films is around $47 million.

    Even a tyro necromancer can see this thing won’t recoup its budget, pre-release hype notwithstanding.

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    And what was the average budget?
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  156. SMK says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    Not something I'd pay to see, but I don't have a problem with this. There's nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

    Yes, it’s “wrong” and malign if the lies and fiction engender black rage and anti-white hatred and violence such as the Wichita massacre and the Knoxville horror and myriads of other atrocities.

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  157. Covergirl says:

    Always good to hear what a disassociated cracker has to say about “the black” experience.

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  158. @Steve in Greensboro
    You didn't ask, but the aircraft is that work of martial art, the A-6 Intruder. A perfectly lovely creation, Grumman's equivalent of Michelangelo's David.

    Who were we bombing? We were bombing the communist North Vietnamese during their war of aggression against our allies, the South Vietnamese.

    Why were we bombing them? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

    Good grief, Steve, how can you call the A-6 “a perfectly lovely creation…………….?”No self-respecting fighter pilot wanted to fly this two-seat airplane, side by side at that. That statement must have been tongue-in-cheek. Why were we bombing them? This is not the thread to answer that question, but I will say even our illustrious leaders at the time could not answer it.

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  159. Truth says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher

    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can’t be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).
     
    You're really good at not addressing the point made by your interlocutors. I still can't tell if this is intentional or a function of your inferior intelligence.

    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it’s spelled) because it is “not real.” Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?

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    Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?
     
    LOOOOOL!!! I heard about this - maybe if Odin called the guy "boy" enough it would have been alright.
    , @Alec Leamas

    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it’s spelled) because it is “not real.” Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?
     
    Of course not.

    No one is "offended" by Wakanda. They're pointing out that blacks are sincerely engaging in the fantasy that Wakanda represents in some real sense the full potential of Sub-Saharan Africa but for the intervention of Europeans. It seems intended to foster in blacks an additional cause for grievance and resentment as if it was needed, this time based solely upon a comic book.

    Kersey is further pointing out that "Diversity" works one way - Wakanda is entirely black, but a Valkyrie (which is a comic book figure but based upon preexisting Norse religio-mythological figures depicted thousands of times as anything but a mulatta chick) must of course be a diverse casting choice.

    Disclosure: I don't read the funny papers except for Marmaduke and Beetle Bailey, I haven't seen the one movie and I won't see the other.
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  160. Truth says:
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid
    No Tyler Perry movie has broken the $100 million box office; his average from 16 wide-release films is around $47 million.

    Even a tyro necromancer can see this thing won't recoup its budget, pre-release hype notwithstanding.

    And what was the average budget?

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    "And what was the average [Tyler Perry] budget?"

    Doesn't matter ... could be $10 million, could be $200 million. The point is, there's a box-office ceiling for all-black movies, that doesn't exist for e.g. X-Men.

    To liberals, Marxist hype equates to a money tree. Magical thinking.

    Then Air America slaps everyone back to reality.
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  161. CCZ says:
    @Dr. Krieger
    To anyone that thinks blacks will think this is fantasy like the X-Men or Thor (I'm talking to @Truth in particular but cannot reply as I don't comment enough), look at the headline from the black journalist's column. "The 'Black Panther' Trailer Shows What Africa Would Have Been if White People Didn't Destroy It." That headline has at least 2 lies in it. First, white people did not destroy Africa. The only reason Africa's population is exploding is because of whites. Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites.

    Its fairly easy to predict that at least one white person will be viciously attacked near a screening by "youths" screamimg something like "You stole our Wakanda and sheeeit." Bank on it.

    “Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites.”

    ‘Day Zero’ water shut-off looms in South Africa and locals queue up at taps as reality sets in that Cape Town may be the world’s first major city to run dry.
    The country’s showcase city, Cape Town is famously perched near two oceans.
    Nearly four million residents are anxious they will be left without running water.
    Security guards monitored how much water people queuing up were taking.

    The [opposition] party says the national government, run by the ruling African National Congress party, has failed to deliver water to all municipalities as required by law.

    Nomvula Mokonyane, the water and sanitation minister, counters that the city should do more to crack down on people using too much water.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-5315733/Day-Zero-Water-shut-looms-South-Africas-Cape-Town.html

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    But at least they don't have to sit on separate park benches.
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  162. Talha says:
    @Truth
    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it's spelled) because it is "not real." Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black "god" in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?

    Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    LOOOOOL!!! I heard about this – maybe if Odin called the guy “boy” enough it would have been alright.

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    Well, Odin and Thor are real in a sense. Get AaronB to explain it to you sometime.

    That the idea that making one of them black is absurd is true-- but it really doesn't compare to the absurdity of putting them into a comic book to begin with.
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  163. Allan says:
    @Steve in Greensboro
    You didn't ask, but the aircraft is that work of martial art, the A-6 Intruder. A perfectly lovely creation, Grumman's equivalent of Michelangelo's David.

    Who were we bombing? We were bombing the communist North Vietnamese during their war of aggression against our allies, the South Vietnamese.

    Why were we bombing them? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

    The US was bombing Viet Nam because it was much less hassle to the GOP than a domestic movement to extirpate the left root and branch. It was also far more profitable to the MIC, and this choice liberated “conservatives” from the personal risks of a dirty civil war to reinforce the prime domino of domino theory by gettng Instead, conservatives obtained military slaves, mostly from the lower class and lower middle class, to be the men of conservatism by shooting foreign peasants indiscriminately and by helping college graduates to drop napalm and other stuff on the peasants.

    Eventually the Democrats turned off the funding for the war, which would have been impossible if the conservative sissy had insisted upon cleansing America First. So Viet Nam was lost to the commies, and during the next 40+ yrs the left took over much of America, too.

    Notice that the pattern would repeat itself after 9/11. The situation called for a thorough curbstomping of both Muslims and their leftist allies throughout the USA, but the GOP and its moronic voters (mostly servile Christians and urban money grubbers) thought that they knew better. Sure, there were some differences between this military adventure and the Viet Nam blunder. For example, there was no conscription, but the long term effects of the similar strategic blunder are becoming clear through changes like the great increase of the qty of Muslims in the USA since Sept 2001.

    I hope this answers your question.

    P.S. The police, who are “heroes” of conservatism, now make sure that the public is too intimidated to take action against the Muslims, much less the left.

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  164. @Truth

    https://carolinapeace.org/2016/07/08/pics-from-greenville-sc-blm-rally-jul-8-2016/
     
    Wrong again, Old Sport!

    http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article88831267.html

    https://carolinapeace.org/2016/07/08/pics-from-greenville-sc-blm-rally-jul-8-2016/

    http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/32401783/black-lives-matter-protest-to-take-place-at-plyler-park-saturday-night

    I can go on if you'd like....

    You can go on and on and on to your hearts’ content. Doesn’t change the tenor in 95% of southern towns that are White majority. Negro protest interests go worse for them the further outside blue states and cities they travel. As for Hispanics, Blacks don’t mess with Hispanics, quite the reverse is true. Everyone’s fed up with Blacks. There’s a reason BLM goes to Blue cities. No consequences.

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    You can go on and on and on to your hearts’ content.
     
    Well thanks kindly for the invitation, Buddy. Don't mind if I do.

    Here we go: Pontoc, MS, pop. 5625; 70% white!

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/9/16/1421950/--Black-Lives-Dont-Matter-movement-hits-Mississippi-town

    How about Johnson City, TN, pop. 66,677 90% white?

    http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Local/2015/08/03/Local-Black-Lives-Matter-rally-to-get-countered-by-white-supremacists-Confederate-flag-supporters

    Jimbrowski; just because you are so much fun...

    http://blackliveslouisville.org/

    https://www.eventbrite.com/d/nc--durham/black-lives-matter/

    http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/article90031792.html
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  165. @Truth
    And what was the average budget?

    “And what was the average [Tyler Perry] budget?”

    Doesn’t matter … could be $10 million, could be $200 million. The point is, there’s a box-office ceiling for all-black movies, that doesn’t exist for e.g. X-Men.

    To liberals, Marxist hype equates to a money tree. Magical thinking.

    Then Air America slaps everyone back to reality.

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    Doesn’t matter … could be $10 million, could be $200 million.
     
    Well actually, I would say it does matter. If Tyler Perry is making $40m on a movie that cost $5m, that's a pretty good profit, ain't it?

    The point is, there’s a box-office ceiling for all-black movies, that doesn’t exist for e.g. X-Men.
     
    Well technically there is a box office ceiling for all movies... but no, a "black" movie does not do as much business as a Marvel Comics blockbuster...BUT SO FUCKING WHAT?!?!

    Neither does an Alexander Payne film, or a Woody Allen film or a Tood Solondz film. They are not expected to, and they flop overseas because they are diologue-driven.

    Woody Allen, for comparison has had exactly TWO films crack the $100m box office level in 51 years of directing. ONE has cracked $50m since NINETEEN-EIGHTY SIX.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Director&id=woodallen.htm

    Oh, and the average box office of Pedo-Woody's films, $32m.




    And he's a genius, right?
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  166. SMK says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    Not something I'd pay to see, but I don't have a problem with this. There's nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

    How many whites have been and will be assaulted, mugged, raped, gang-raped, murdered, etc., because of this dishonest and despicable movie?

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    My guess is that there will be many, and they will all be allowed to walk free. This is on the Narrative Collapse blog:

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/07/10/killer-gets-free-pass-for-beating-his-tutor-to-death-in-front-of-witnesses/

    "The prosecution originally decided they would let Donley off easy and only pursue manslaughter charges. Then they waited over five years. Broward County Assistant State Attorney Vegina Trimetric Hawkins, who is black, now claims that the state no longer has a case. She says one of the witnesses was a student from Saudi Arabia. He is back in Saudi Arabia and Hawkins says the former prosecutor mishandled his deposition."

    Vegina Trimetric Hawkins?
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  167. How ’bout a movie about what the United States would be like if Africans had never been brought over?

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    Buyer’s Remorse...

    I thought White folks were super future-oriented- what happened? Didn’t they see this coming?

    Suggestion; offer Blacks six contiguous states of their choice as a new ethnic homeland. Shake hands, part ways and keep the CIA out. Call it New Wakanda!!!

    Peace.

    , @Carroll Price
    It would be something like Minnesota, Iowa, Oregon, Vermont, Ohio, and isolated areas of Dixie like north Georgia and parts of Virginia (where's there's few blacks and almost no crime) with a little local flavor thrown in.
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  168. Truth says:
    @Jim Christian
    You can go on and on and on to your hearts' content. Doesn't change the tenor in 95% of southern towns that are White majority. Negro protest interests go worse for them the further outside blue states and cities they travel. As for Hispanics, Blacks don't mess with Hispanics, quite the reverse is true. Everyone's fed up with Blacks. There's a reason BLM goes to Blue cities. No consequences.

    You can go on and on and on to your hearts’ content.

    Well thanks kindly for the invitation, Buddy. Don’t mind if I do.

    Here we go: Pontoc, MS, pop. 5625; 70% white!

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/9/16/1421950/–Black-Lives-Dont-Matter-movement-hits-Mississippi-town

    How about Johnson City, TN, pop. 66,677 90% white?

    http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Local/2015/08/03/Local-Black-Lives-Matter-rally-to-get-countered-by-white-supremacists-Confederate-flag-supporters

    Jimbrowski; just because you are so much fun…

    http://blackliveslouisville.org/

    https://www.eventbrite.com/d/nc–durham/black-lives-matter/

    http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/article90031792.html

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  169. Truth says:
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid
    "And what was the average [Tyler Perry] budget?"

    Doesn't matter ... could be $10 million, could be $200 million. The point is, there's a box-office ceiling for all-black movies, that doesn't exist for e.g. X-Men.

    To liberals, Marxist hype equates to a money tree. Magical thinking.

    Then Air America slaps everyone back to reality.

    Doesn’t matter … could be $10 million, could be $200 million.

    Well actually, I would say it does matter. If Tyler Perry is making $40m on a movie that cost $5m, that’s a pretty good profit, ain’t it?

    The point is, there’s a box-office ceiling for all-black movies, that doesn’t exist for e.g. X-Men.

    Well technically there is a box office ceiling for all movies… but no, a “black” movie does not do as much business as a Marvel Comics blockbuster…BUT SO FUCKING WHAT?!?!

    Neither does an Alexander Payne film, or a Woody Allen film or a Tood Solondz film. They are not expected to, and they flop overseas because they are diologue-driven.

    Woody Allen, for comparison has had exactly TWO films crack the $100m box office level in 51 years of directing. ONE has cracked $50m since NINETEEN-EIGHTY SIX.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Director&id=woodallen.htm

    Oh, and the average box office of Pedo-Woody’s films, $32m.

    And he’s a genius, right?

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  170. bomag says:
    @Truth

    But if, ultimately, humanity can manage nothing better than running around the jungles and savannas living hand to mouth
     
    ..In other words, what virile and athletic white men call, "vacation."

    …what virile and athletic white men call, “vacation.”

    LOL. Good one.

    I’ve always thought the “vacation” was to remind them to go home and keep the electric grid up and running.

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  171. bomag says:
    @Truth

    No one was writing that Thor or Superman represent a lost past stolen from anyone. They’re fantastical goofs and everyone knows it.
     
    Dude, they stole our past from us, I wish Johnny Cochran was still around, I would sue the bastards!

    Sincerely:

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher





    (Guys would you please have mercy, it can't be healthy for a man to laugh this hard this early in the morning).

    Jor-el
    Hyppolita
    Abin-Sur
    and Uatu the Watcher

    That’s gotta be worth some nerd points.

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  172. @Tulip
    Isn't this move just white nationalism in black face?

    Integration is a lie and Blacks can only thrive if they remain separate? [And obviously, if its good for Blacks, why isn't it good for others? And if whites want what is good for Blacks, why shouldn't they struggle to see that they get what they need, e.g. physical removal from whites?]

    From the movie, one can only suppose that the evil of Jim Crow was not segregation, it was that the segregation wasn't complete and total enough. Blacks don't need separation, they need total removal in order to thrive. Certainly, diversity is not strength in Black Panther.

    The text may be Black Nationalist fantasy, but the subtext is more universal and comports with the ideological messaging a movie produced by Richard Spencer might have, if placed in national circulation. I wonder how hard it would be to dub and photoshop a parody?

    “Isn’t this move just white nationalism in black face?”

    What stunningly ignorant low IQ bollocks.

    Whites actually built the finest civilization the world has ever seen, as attested to by the billions who want to live in it.

    Don’t see frail little flowers fleeing to such black paradises as Somalia or Nigeria or (name your Sub-Sahara hellhole here.)

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  173. notice says:

    Nice new website called boycott liberalhollywood.com. I agree with the site. Don’t give (Hollywood)) your money. See all the old classic films first on your DVD player.

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  174. Talha says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    How 'bout a movie about what the United States would be like if Africans had never been brought over?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOKMUTTDdA

    Buyer’s Remorse…

    I thought White folks were super future-oriented- what happened? Didn’t they see this coming?

    Suggestion; offer Blacks six contiguous states of their choice as a new ethnic homeland. Shake hands, part ways and keep the CIA out. Call it New Wakanda!!!

    Peace.

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    I suppose we could have castrated our African slaves like the Arabs did. They have no black problem today. Just myriad self-made ones.

    I agree with your suggestion, though it would need to be walled off from the remaining white American states. Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break). I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were willing to be sold into slavery for a chance to get back into a white country.
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  175. @Twodees Partain
    Granted, all the the superhero comic book genre is silly. We aren't supposed to believe any of it, either, agreed. It's just comical to see that this comic/movie is an invention of white people.

    The old '70s movie push of the same type was called, as a genre, "Blaxploitation Films". Today such an accurate observation isn't allowed. Those movies were not total fantasy, but were still pretty far-out fiction, creating superblack characters like Shaft, Superfly, Buck and the Preacher, and the characters such as Coffy and Foxy Brown written for Pam Grier.

    This is just another Blaxploitation Film, though the people behind it would have a fit if that old term was put back into the vernacular to describe it.

    As opposed to white exploitation films Tarzan, Mama’s Boys, Grindhouse, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Last House on the Left, Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 2, 3, . . . , Friday the 13th 1, 2 . . .etc, Halloween . . . 6 . . . , I Spit On Your Grave . . ., Black Christmas (there’s some irony), Prom Night, Your Next, Hatchet, Psycho . . . wrong Turn . . .

    Now admittedly, I haven’;t seen many of these films, but the motivation is quite clear with entire sites dedicated to satisfying the palate of white fears, violence with a side order of illicit relations.

    Now granted there are more whites than blacks in this country so one should expect more white exploitation . . . I know I am supposed to be on the politically correct path of denouncing all things black . . . but good grief.

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    LOL

    I will not sit here and let you call Psycho an exploitation film, you poltroon.

    (Glove slap)
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  176. L Woods says:
    @CCZ
    "Second, obviously, we know, that Africa would not be like Wakanda without whites."

    'Day Zero' water shut-off looms in South Africa and locals queue up at taps as reality sets in that Cape Town may be the world's first major city to run dry.
    The country's showcase city, Cape Town is famously perched near two oceans.
    Nearly four million residents are anxious they will be left without running water.
    Security guards monitored how much water people queuing up were taking.

    The [opposition] party says the national government, run by the ruling African National Congress party, has failed to deliver water to all municipalities as required by law.

    Nomvula Mokonyane, the water and sanitation minister, counters that the city should do more to crack down on people using too much water.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-5315733/Day-Zero-Water-shut-looms-South-Africas-Cape-Town.html

    But at least they don’t have to sit on separate park benches.

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  177. I lived in a representative African country for four years. Shakedowns by police and government officials were frequent. Any love shown between the races was generally in the direction from white to black, not the other way around. Whites and Indian merchants were generally despised. (Locals were conspicuously absent in significant commerce – locals were marketplace bottom feeders with no capital and no inventories larger than a single person could carry.) ALL social institutions were corrupted by incompetence and graft. Public services, such as water and power, worked sometimes, and sometimes not. High rise buildings were usually not of safe construction, and you did not ever ever want to get caught in an elevator which could break down at any moment from lack of, or faulty service. A small, corrupt and often vicious upper class lived quite well, the middle class was very small and under the low-wage gun, and the lower classes, hopelessly divided by tribal lines, were destitute with zero hope of a better future. The rule of law was flexible and subject to change in a manner always benefiting the elites. Go 40 miles inland, and you could see how people lived in the stone age. Rickets, distended abdomens, malaria (essentially everyone was born with this), cerebral malaria (zombies walking down the roads), leprosy, yaws (look up some pictures of that!), were fairly widespread. Supposedly, if you could reach the age of 20 years, you could expect to live to 60, but getting to 20 was the hard part. People’s drinking water was often polluted by their own wastes. Cholera, anybody? A more progressive country, Nigeria, was an Alice-in-Wonderland madhouse where you had to hire a consultant to get from the airplane through customs. And if you surrendered your passport for any reason, to get it back was really expensive and time consuming. Wakanda, my a$$! Confucius said, “the beginning of wisdom is calling things by their right names.” Creating politically correct, unsupportable fantasies and encouraging people to live in falsehood is in no measure the way present problems can be either addressed or moderated.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    Thanks, The Welsher, for your first-person testimonial about your African experience. I've talked with Black ex-pats from Ghana, South Africa, and Haiti, all upmarket folks who actually left something behind when they arrived here in the States. I think nothing works and ubiquitous corruption may be the common views of all three about their home countries.

    The Haitian guy, Fritz A., talked casually about American food aid commandeered by Haiti's elites to be sold to Haiti's poor. Nice little profit there when your cost of food is $0.

    All three had poor opinions of American Blacks.

    , @Truth

    Any love shown between the races was generally in the direction from white to black, not the other way around. Whites and Indian merchants were generally despised.

    Locals were conspicuously absent in significant commerce – locals were marketplace bottom feeders with no capital and no inventories larger than a single person could carry.

    the middle class was very small and under the low-wage gun, and the lower classes, were destitute with zero hope of a better future.
     
    And you weren't able to draw an understanding from these facts?
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  178. @Truth
    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it's spelled) because it is "not real." Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black "god" in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?

    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it’s spelled) because it is “not real.” Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?

    Of course not.

    No one is “offended” by Wakanda. They’re pointing out that blacks are sincerely engaging in the fantasy that Wakanda represents in some real sense the full potential of Sub-Saharan Africa but for the intervention of Europeans. It seems intended to foster in blacks an additional cause for grievance and resentment as if it was needed, this time based solely upon a comic book.

    Kersey is further pointing out that “Diversity” works one way – Wakanda is entirely black, but a Valkyrie (which is a comic book figure but based upon preexisting Norse religio-mythological figures depicted thousands of times as anything but a mulatta chick) must of course be a diverse casting choice.

    Disclosure: I don’t read the funny papers except for Marmaduke and Beetle Bailey, I haven’t seen the one movie and I won’t see the other.

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    I certainly have my issues with blacks in this country, but the first two sentences are self imposed myths created to impugn, there's not any real evidence that blacks intend to accept the fiction of marvel comics as some idealized truth.


    Since Africa has been out of colonial hangs for seventy-five years, time will tell what to make of their fulfilling their potential.
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  179. AaronB says:

    There’s like a gazillion movies that extol European culture and civilization. Period dramas, etc.

    I might watch this goofy movie, it seems kinda cool. I always loved those old Rider Haggard tales of lost African kingdoms….which, btw, is obviously what this film is modeled on.

    The idea that Europeans are so powerful that this African kingdom can only survive by hiding doesn’t exactly push the message of African superiority.

    Kind of ridiculous that blacks can’t have a nice little fantasy now and then.

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  180. Mark T says:
    @Anonymous
    I have seen Wakanda already.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl0b2LGf9jM

    Don’t understand old fashioned cameras and suddenly switching to left hand drive, but presumably to be consistent there would need to be some incredibly rich but hugely corrupt white ‘businessmen’ wandering around having massively exploited all the poor white people back home?

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    Also it should show white men raping eight months old girl, coz India is the rape capital of the world and rape is a core part of Indian culture.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42869010
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  181. Robert Dunn says: • Website

    Christopher Chambers, who somehow because a professor, believes the release of a black superhero means ‘we’ve finally arrived and needs reminding that comic books were the source for the entire Marvel franchise. And I think many need to be reminded where the true ‘future’ of ‘Afrofuturism’ would be without all those white doctors and scientists that have had to come up with cures for the diseases Africa started: an empty continent.

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  182. Kweli says:
    @Steve in Greensboro
    You didn't ask, but the aircraft is that work of martial art, the A-6 Intruder. A perfectly lovely creation, Grumman's equivalent of Michelangelo's David.

    Who were we bombing? We were bombing the communist North Vietnamese during their war of aggression against our allies, the South Vietnamese.

    Why were we bombing them? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

    “North Vietnamese war of aggression against our allies…”. Wow! Your sense of history would be the envy of US imperial warmongers at the height of their criminal war. The country is now one, ain’t it?

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    A little history might help you out.

    S. Vietnam was a state recognized by the UN. Had the N Vietnamese actually wanted peace they could have ceased invading S. Vietnam at any time , including during the 1050's.


    The chants for give peace a chance were misdirected. It was the North that broke every single peace treaty -- everyone.
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  183. Kweli says:
    @Carroll Price
    99.9% of Black History is fiction.

    You may be right; was it because most of it’s earlier version was written by Whites?

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    Earlier version? Clue me in.
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  184. @Alec Leamas

    OK, explain to me in nice simple language what the point is. What I am reading, and granted, as you said, it might be a function of low IQ, is that people here are offended by Wakanda (however it’s spelled) because it is “not real.” Yet at the simultaneously offended by a black “god” in the very real Kingdom of Asgard, the magical realm inhabited by Thor?

    Am I understanding this correctly?
     
    Of course not.

    No one is "offended" by Wakanda. They're pointing out that blacks are sincerely engaging in the fantasy that Wakanda represents in some real sense the full potential of Sub-Saharan Africa but for the intervention of Europeans. It seems intended to foster in blacks an additional cause for grievance and resentment as if it was needed, this time based solely upon a comic book.

    Kersey is further pointing out that "Diversity" works one way - Wakanda is entirely black, but a Valkyrie (which is a comic book figure but based upon preexisting Norse religio-mythological figures depicted thousands of times as anything but a mulatta chick) must of course be a diverse casting choice.

    Disclosure: I don't read the funny papers except for Marmaduke and Beetle Bailey, I haven't seen the one movie and I won't see the other.

    I certainly have my issues with blacks in this country, but the first two sentences are self imposed myths created to impugn, there’s not any real evidence that blacks intend to accept the fiction of marvel comics as some idealized truth.

    Since Africa has been out of colonial hangs for seventy-five years, time will tell what to make of their fulfilling their potential.

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  185. @Kweli
    "North Vietnamese war of aggression against our allies...". Wow! Your sense of history would be the envy of US imperial warmongers at the height of their criminal war. The country is now one, ain't it?

    A little history might help you out.

    S. Vietnam was a state recognized by the UN. Had the N Vietnamese actually wanted peace they could have ceased invading S. Vietnam at any time , including during the 1050′s.

    The chants for give peace a chance were misdirected. It was the North that broke every single peace treaty — everyone.

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    History? East Germany too was recognized by the UN. You conveniently overlook the fact that unified Vietnam is also recognized by the UN. Your point? I was intrigued by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's prediction long before America's withdrawal that they would be defeated and the country re-united. So it was. Time to go to bed.
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  186. Truth says:
    @George
    Stormfront? I guess you are a troll, but I don't get the StormFront reference, can you explain it?

    Not that it matters but this is Johnson's cv.
    https://aast.uic.edu/aast/people/faculty/cedric-johnson

    Who is this guy?

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  187. @Wyatt Pendleton
    I for one am disgusted with these "superhero" movies. They are the epitome of the Worship of Man as the measure of All Things. This is a blatant violation of the First and Second Commandments. These "messiah" figures (Superman) or Jewish golems (the Hulk or The Thing aka Benjamin J. Grimm a Jew hero) were created by non-Christian Hebrews (Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster / Stan Lee etc.) and sold to children to create a new altar for their vain imaginations to take them away from their Christian religion given to them by their Gentile forefathers.

    I don't see these going away in the next 20 years, in fact I see them being a cultural incubator for Transhumanism (eternal life via machines) to take flight and lead people to want to become the Bionic Man because the body God gave you was flawed because God is mean and He doesn't want man to be able to get out from underneath the thumb of Death thus avoiding interment in Hell. This will fail of course, but so many will be lead to destruction. Narrow is the gate...

    Excuse me:

    1050′s should be 1950′s.

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  188. @SMK
    How many whites have been and will be assaulted, mugged, raped, gang-raped, murdered, etc., because of this dishonest and despicable movie?

    My guess is that there will be many, and they will all be allowed to walk free. This is on the Narrative Collapse blog:

    http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/07/10/killer-gets-free-pass-for-beating-his-tutor-to-death-in-front-of-witnesses/

    “The prosecution originally decided they would let Donley off easy and only pursue manslaughter charges. Then they waited over five years. Broward County Assistant State Attorney Vegina Trimetric Hawkins, who is black, now claims that the state no longer has a case. She says one of the witnesses was a student from Saudi Arabia. He is back in Saudi Arabia and Hawkins says the former prosecutor mishandled his deposition.”

    Vegina Trimetric Hawkins?

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  189. JackOH says:
    @The Welsher
    I lived in a representative African country for four years. Shakedowns by police and government officials were frequent. Any love shown between the races was generally in the direction from white to black, not the other way around. Whites and Indian merchants were generally despised. (Locals were conspicuously absent in significant commerce - locals were marketplace bottom feeders with no capital and no inventories larger than a single person could carry.) ALL social institutions were corrupted by incompetence and graft. Public services, such as water and power, worked sometimes, and sometimes not. High rise buildings were usually not of safe construction, and you did not ever ever want to get caught in an elevator which could break down at any moment from lack of, or faulty service. A small, corrupt and often vicious upper class lived quite well, the middle class was very small and under the low-wage gun, and the lower classes, hopelessly divided by tribal lines, were destitute with zero hope of a better future. The rule of law was flexible and subject to change in a manner always benefiting the elites. Go 40 miles inland, and you could see how people lived in the stone age. Rickets, distended abdomens, malaria (essentially everyone was born with this), cerebral malaria (zombies walking down the roads), leprosy, yaws (look up some pictures of that!), were fairly widespread. Supposedly, if you could reach the age of 20 years, you could expect to live to 60, but getting to 20 was the hard part. People's drinking water was often polluted by their own wastes. Cholera, anybody? A more progressive country, Nigeria, was an Alice-in-Wonderland madhouse where you had to hire a consultant to get from the airplane through customs. And if you surrendered your passport for any reason, to get it back was really expensive and time consuming. Wakanda, my a$$! Confucius said, "the beginning of wisdom is calling things by their right names." Creating politically correct, unsupportable fantasies and encouraging people to live in falsehood is in no measure the way present problems can be either addressed or moderated.

    Thanks, The Welsher, for your first-person testimonial about your African experience. I’ve talked with Black ex-pats from Ghana, South Africa, and Haiti, all upmarket folks who actually left something behind when they arrived here in the States. I think nothing works and ubiquitous corruption may be the common views of all three about their home countries.

    The Haitian guy, Fritz A., talked casually about American food aid commandeered by Haiti’s elites to be sold to Haiti’s poor. Nice little profit there when your cost of food is $0.

    All three had poor opinions of American Blacks.

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  190. @Kweli
    You may be right; was it because most of it's earlier version was written by Whites?

    Earlier version? Clue me in.

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  191. @Buzz Mohawk
    How 'bout a movie about what the United States would be like if Africans had never been brought over?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOKMUTTDdA

    It would be something like Minnesota, Iowa, Oregon, Vermont, Ohio, and isolated areas of Dixie like north Georgia and parts of Virginia (where’s there’s few blacks and almost no crime) with a little local flavor thrown in.

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    "It would be something like Minnesota, Iowa, Oregon, Vermont, Ohio, and isolated areas of Dixie like north Georgia and parts of Virginia (where’s there’s few blacks and almost no crime) with a little local flavor thrown in."

    -Better yet, Eskimos here like to claim blacks are persecuted, ship 'em all as persecuted refugees to Israel. I say give them the diversity they proclaim is so good for everyone else. Certainly few 'evil white Gentile men' around there to twirl their mustaches, and secretly hatch dastardly plans, and since the current inhabitants of Israel are the bestest people ever then they are certain the best suited to help their black brethren. Israel's climate would also suit blacks much better than Minnesota or Vermont. If 'diversity' is so great, let's make Israel 90% diverse.

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  192. Kweli says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    A little history might help you out.

    S. Vietnam was a state recognized by the UN. Had the N Vietnamese actually wanted peace they could have ceased invading S. Vietnam at any time , including during the 1050's.


    The chants for give peace a chance were misdirected. It was the North that broke every single peace treaty -- everyone.

    History? East Germany too was recognized by the UN. You conveniently overlook the fact that unified Vietnam is also recognized by the UN. Your point? I was intrigued by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell’s prediction long before America’s withdrawal that they would be defeated and the country re-united. So it was. Time to go to bed.

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    I am not sure what plane of existence to respond to here. In yours the current status has some play to pre-1975, when S. Vietnam and N. Vietnam were two independent states.

    UN recognition is generally considered -- nation status as Such, each and every time N. Vietnam crossed the border to engage in violence was in fact a violation of S. Vietnam's sovereignty ---

    Hence the support of S. Vietnam by the US and others. That's the real world planet on the table not the imaginary planet where a unified Vietnam which did not exist during the conflict ,
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Hmmmmm . . . N. Vietnam actually lost the Vietnam conflict and they agreed to a treaty to end the matter. Now I certainly get the liberal hoola hoop of "But they weren't serious." "It was just a ruse, and we knew it . . ." Yada yada song and dance about the given up territory.
    Botton line, S. Vietnam won their independence, or I should say maintained their independence. And for a brief time the US assisted in that process. Our troops went home in 1973, and withdrew military support when the South successfully defended their country by another one of N. Vietnam's failure to abide by a treaty agreement --- yawn -- shocker. Those peaceful North Vietnamese ---

    Despite that successful defense, US congress decided to cease any financial support for what was a hard fought win. Pres Nixon was no longer in office and when the North invaded with the help pf the chinese and Soviets, they simply could not withstand the onslaught.

    And the predicted slaughter by communists began ravishing both north and south. As for the ultimate win

    Vietnam now beckoning for US capital markets.

    , @Authenticjazzman
    " They ( the Americans) would be defeated and the country re-united"

    Okay, In spite of my Mensa attested IQ level of ca 150:160 points I am and have been for the last four decades been unable to comprehend the, propagated by the left, criteria, as applied to the Viet Nam, for winning or losing a military conflict and that being : The side which suffers the most losses, North Viet Nam, with two and a half million fatalities, is the winning side , and the side which experiences the least losses : The US, with 55000 fatalities, is the losing side.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak.

    My beloved twenty-four year old, and since deceased brother, returned from Viet Nam in 1970, with a stiff leg and an undefeated spirit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  193. @Kweli
    History? East Germany too was recognized by the UN. You conveniently overlook the fact that unified Vietnam is also recognized by the UN. Your point? I was intrigued by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's prediction long before America's withdrawal that they would be defeated and the country re-united. So it was. Time to go to bed.

    I am not sure what plane of existence to respond to here. In yours the current status has some play to pre-1975, when S. Vietnam and N. Vietnam were two independent states.

    UN recognition is generally considered — nation status as Such, each and every time N. Vietnam crossed the border to engage in violence was in fact a violation of S. Vietnam’s sovereignty —

    Hence the support of S. Vietnam by the US and others. That’s the real world planet on the table not the imaginary planet where a unified Vietnam which did not exist during the conflict ,

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  194. There are parts of what we used to call darkest Africa that never saw a white man until about 140 years ago. These civilizations, if we can call them that, were far below the level of Africans who had had some exposure to and ability to absorb European practices, values, technology and education.

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    These civilizations, if we can call them that
     
    I don't think you can. You can call them cultures - in fact they might be great cultures or horrible ones (depends on various circumstances).

    But the world "civilization" is predicated on the notions of citizenship which is where the word derives from Latin. Civilization describes city-dwelling cultures as opposed to other types.

    Peace.
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  195. @Kweli
    History? East Germany too was recognized by the UN. You conveniently overlook the fact that unified Vietnam is also recognized by the UN. Your point? I was intrigued by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's prediction long before America's withdrawal that they would be defeated and the country re-united. So it was. Time to go to bed.

    Hmmmmm . . . N. Vietnam actually lost the Vietnam conflict and they agreed to a treaty to end the matter. Now I certainly get the liberal hoola hoop of “But they weren’t serious.” “It was just a ruse, and we knew it . . .” Yada yada song and dance about the given up territory.
    Botton line, S. Vietnam won their independence, or I should say maintained their independence. And for a brief time the US assisted in that process. Our troops went home in 1973, and withdrew military support when the South successfully defended their country by another one of N. Vietnam’s failure to abide by a treaty agreement — yawn — shocker. Those peaceful North Vietnamese —

    Despite that successful defense, US congress decided to cease any financial support for what was a hard fought win. Pres Nixon was no longer in office and when the North invaded with the help pf the chinese and Soviets, they simply could not withstand the onslaught.

    And the predicted slaughter by communists began ravishing both north and south. As for the ultimate win

    Vietnam now beckoning for US capital markets.

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    You are correct. South Vietnam was INVADED by the North Vietnamese communists. It was an INVASION, not a "civil-war" as many promoters of communism try to define it as. Despite not being permitted to destroy the invasion routes, and having one hand tied behind our backs, American and South Vietnamese troops did an outstanding job in delaying the communist expansion into South Vietnam.
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  196. Talha says:
    @Patrick Sullivan
    There are parts of what we used to call darkest Africa that never saw a white man until about 140 years ago. These civilizations, if we can call them that, were far below the level of Africans who had had some exposure to and ability to absorb European practices, values, technology and education.

    These civilizations, if we can call them that

    I don’t think you can. You can call them cultures – in fact they might be great cultures or horrible ones (depends on various circumstances).

    But the world “civilization” is predicated on the notions of citizenship which is where the word derives from Latin. Civilization describes city-dwelling cultures as opposed to other types.

    Peace.

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    Civilization describes city-dwelling cultures as opposed to other types.
     
    And that's all it is. It's not a hammer to pound people who don't live in cities. And if every thesis has its anti-thesis, the thesis of the modern city has its anti-thesis in nuclear bombs. Quite the prize it is to be civilized.
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  197. joef says:

    This is the problem with our current status with our race relations with the afro american:
    They are responsible for two major problems against this nation, which is violent crime, and the endless reception of entitlements (which for the point of brevity, I will include affirmative action as part of afro entitlements).

    The cost of the welfare state is where the greatest degree of our deficit spending is going. States, Counties, Municipalities, do not have national defense budgets. All government levels are no longer selling bonds to pay for long term capital improvement projects, but now use it to pay for annual operating expenses. In the past government expenses, before the war on poverty (the official title for endless afro giveaways), could meet their routine expenses without having to resort to selling bonds; but the added burden of the monstrous welfare state now forces them to always sell bonds to pay for it.

    Instead of providing a feeling of appreciation for all they receive, afros react with the opposite reaction, resenting that they are not getting even more. Their infantile understanding of economics is that they want more free lunch, and we Non Blacks are hoarding it all for ourselves. More sincere liberals (as opposed to limo libs and leftist progs) believed that giving more & more to afros would have created good feelings & mutual understanding between us, but it is obvious to the rest of us that this is not the case.

    Unprovoked afro initiated violence is even a bigger problem. Afros kill more American residents than any other group. The rate of violence that they commit as compared to Non Blacks is truly staggering. Most afros feel no remorse about this, but instead believe whitey had it coming. Most anyone who lived adjoining an afro ghetto readily acknowledges the afros ability to commit extreme violence in order to obtain casual objectives.

    But what really complicates the problem is how many Whites want to deny this issue. Since they never experienced this directly, they want to pretend it doesn’t exist. Instead they come out with nonsensical solutions such as closing down prisons, and letting them out loose among the public (so they can kill again). This is akin to letting out the “imprisoned” plague from a research lab, claiming that it poses no harm to the general public.

    But the worst part of this is that: it ignores the Non Black (and Black) crime victims. It never acknowledges that theses victims were real people with names & faces, addresses, date of birth, place of birth, with mothers & fathers, have family & friends, hopes & dreams, jobs, and lives. Instead they are ignored on the alter of Whites making excuses in trying to feel good about themselves. Thus, these ignored victims are sacrificed so other isolated Whites do not have to think about it, and hope afros will love them for their effort. These whites claim to have compassion, yet don’t have empathy with the devastating effect of being a victim of afro violence (and that is why most libs & leftist are hated by others).

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  198. anarchyst says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Hmmmmm . . . N. Vietnam actually lost the Vietnam conflict and they agreed to a treaty to end the matter. Now I certainly get the liberal hoola hoop of "But they weren't serious." "It was just a ruse, and we knew it . . ." Yada yada song and dance about the given up territory.
    Botton line, S. Vietnam won their independence, or I should say maintained their independence. And for a brief time the US assisted in that process. Our troops went home in 1973, and withdrew military support when the South successfully defended their country by another one of N. Vietnam's failure to abide by a treaty agreement --- yawn -- shocker. Those peaceful North Vietnamese ---

    Despite that successful defense, US congress decided to cease any financial support for what was a hard fought win. Pres Nixon was no longer in office and when the North invaded with the help pf the chinese and Soviets, they simply could not withstand the onslaught.

    And the predicted slaughter by communists began ravishing both north and south. As for the ultimate win

    Vietnam now beckoning for US capital markets.

    You are correct. South Vietnam was INVADED by the North Vietnamese communists. It was an INVASION, not a “civil-war” as many promoters of communism try to define it as. Despite not being permitted to destroy the invasion routes, and having one hand tied behind our backs, American and South Vietnamese troops did an outstanding job in delaying the communist expansion into South Vietnam.

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    No argument from me.
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  199. @Kweli
    History? East Germany too was recognized by the UN. You conveniently overlook the fact that unified Vietnam is also recognized by the UN. Your point? I was intrigued by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's prediction long before America's withdrawal that they would be defeated and the country re-united. So it was. Time to go to bed.

    ” They ( the Americans) would be defeated and the country re-united”

    Okay, In spite of my Mensa attested IQ level of ca 150:160 points I am and have been for the last four decades been unable to comprehend the, propagated by the left, criteria, as applied to the Viet Nam, for winning or losing a military conflict and that being : The side which suffers the most losses, North Viet Nam, with two and a half million fatalities, is the winning side , and the side which experiences the least losses : The US, with 55000 fatalities, is the losing side.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak.

    My beloved twenty-four year old, and since deceased brother, returned from Viet Nam in 1970, with a stiff leg and an undefeated spirit.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    --------------------------------

    Your "Formula" is rather laughable. Where is this mystical rule "since time immemorial" that says the side that take the highest casualties is automatically the "loser"? The Soviets took much more combat deaths than the Germans during WW2 and emerged the clear winner. Likewise the North suffered more combat deaths than the Americans and also emerged the clear winner. You simply do not have a basic grasp of history.

    And northern losses are not "2,500,000." Where do you get this pseudo figure? A number of Western historians put total communist losses at some 666,000 dead, but figures released by the communist regime in 1995 stipulate 1.1 million dead, which includes both Viet Cong and PAVN regulars. (James Wilbanks, 2017. The Vietnam War: A Topical Exploration and Primary Source Collection) Even taking the higher communist figure and doubling it does not even get up to this mystical "2,500,000" figure you pull out of thin air.

    And on top of all the other errors you seem to forget that the North was fighting BOTH the US AND the ARVN, whose losses range from a low of 110,000 to 250,000 depending on credible source referenced. You seem to think that only the USA was fighting in Vietnam, or that only the USA inflicted casualties on the VC/PAVN. This is even more dubious. Any accounting of losses on the "Free World" side has to include South Vietnamese losses. This much should be painfully obvious...

    , @EnriiqueCardovaa
    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak. Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    How is this a "bizarre paradox" for a "mensa qualified" guy like you? Germany and Japan after WW2 are bursting with corporate brands like MacDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, etc., many of which were putin place not by "Leftist Big Brothers" but plain old conservative money-grubbing capitalists. Likewise with various other winners on the Allied side from Britain to Belgium. Exactly what is "bizarre" about these corporate appearances? Earlier you seem to forget that any war accounting must account for losses on BOTH sides- in the case of Vietnam: (a) the US/ARVN and (b) the VC/PAVN. If you are indeed a military veteran, how could you miss so basic a point?

    , @Dr. Krieger
    Its amazing to see how an article about a black Marvel movie, ended up producing a comment thread about the Vietnam War.

    [email protected]#king ponderous man. Ponderous.
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  200. Imagine you woke up to discover that everybody with more than 25% sub-Saharan ancestry had died, painlessly and peacefully, in their sleep.

    If your first thought was “How are we going to cope without them?”, you’re probably 24% sub-Saharan African.

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  201. (((Mark Feige)))…just a hunch.

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  202. martin2 says:

    I am in the UK. Just wondering, are there really actual white people in the USA that are goofy enough to take seriously the idea that Africa would be advanced and prosperous were it not for white European colonisation and interference? Do such people really exist?

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    No, I don't believe there are that many white people in the USA who believe in the "we wuz kangz" nonsense, and that European colonization is the cause of Africa's backwardness. The big picture is Caucasians/Europeans know the truth but are still too cowardly to admit it out loud. At this point in world history, we can see that it was the Caucasian/Aryan/European races who created civilizations. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The Asians are second and blacks are last. The world has been settled, IQs measured, and races delineated. Are you familiar with the book "The Bell Curve" which deals with IQ? In order to have a functioning society, the people who make it up must have an IQ of 90+. There is nonsense going on about how East Asians are smarter than Caucasians. They are not. Asians/blacks don't have the Faustian spirit, another requirement. And Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. This miscegenated, meshuggah melange had nothing to do with Western civilization. Asians create second tier countries, blacks the worst countries. We also know that mixing with blacks/Asians destroys IQ.

    But avoiding the IQ issue and its relation to race is becoming more difficult to deny every day. The invasion of Europe by blacks/Muslims/Asians is causing deadly problems. I don't need to tell you about what's going on in the UK. We are also reaching the breaking point. In the USA, billions and billions have been spent to improve blacks. It has been nothing but a waste of money. The biggest obstacles (which will soon be overcome) are the Roman Catholic Church and the evangelical Protestants in the USA. Are you RCC or a Protestant? In Europe, cuck pope Frannie is one of biggest supporters of the invasion. Here, the USA RCC is the biggest supporter of illegals from Latin America. The Protestants are in competition with the RCC for converts so they are enablers. A new Christian church only for the West will have to be created. Blacks/Asians can have their own churches in their countries.

    A new history with IQ/race as part of the core will have to be taught. In the West, the Bible is the most important book. But it only tells a partial history of the world. The Bible is focused on the Middle East (which at that time was comprised of Caucasians). It was a small part of the world but of course what happened changed world history. Abraham lived around 2000 BC. However, there were 2 great civilizations in existence: Egypt and India. The Egypt mentioned in the Bible is the Caucasian Egypt. The India mentioned in the Bible is the Aryan India. Today, those ancient countries no longer exist. The Caucasian Egyptians mixed with blacks to produce present day Egyptians (avg. IQ 81) and the Aryan Indians mixed with Asians to produce present day Indians (avg. IQ 82). The most important objective reality, truth is IQ. Loss of IQ is the end of a civilization. IQ loss is what the West and its populations is facing if it does not deal with the invaders. Religion will have to be taught differently.

    There was a movie made in 1968 "The Planet of the Apes." At the end, Charlton Heston sees the broken Statue of Liberty. We can see this same movie ending in present day Egypt. When anyone goes to visit the Pyramids and ancient temples, and you see the present day Egyptians around you, people who will never be able to do what the ancient Egyptians did, this science fiction movie is a mirror of present day reality. This is the same if you go to India and marvel at the ancient temples and the complex Hindu philosophical system. Today's Indians can only mimic what the ancients created. The Bible does not deal with IQ. We have to deal with it and take appropriate measures. Separation is the best way.

    What are the English going to do to prevent Harry from marrying the negress?

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  203. Truth says:
    @The Welsher
    I lived in a representative African country for four years. Shakedowns by police and government officials were frequent. Any love shown between the races was generally in the direction from white to black, not the other way around. Whites and Indian merchants were generally despised. (Locals were conspicuously absent in significant commerce - locals were marketplace bottom feeders with no capital and no inventories larger than a single person could carry.) ALL social institutions were corrupted by incompetence and graft. Public services, such as water and power, worked sometimes, and sometimes not. High rise buildings were usually not of safe construction, and you did not ever ever want to get caught in an elevator which could break down at any moment from lack of, or faulty service. A small, corrupt and often vicious upper class lived quite well, the middle class was very small and under the low-wage gun, and the lower classes, hopelessly divided by tribal lines, were destitute with zero hope of a better future. The rule of law was flexible and subject to change in a manner always benefiting the elites. Go 40 miles inland, and you could see how people lived in the stone age. Rickets, distended abdomens, malaria (essentially everyone was born with this), cerebral malaria (zombies walking down the roads), leprosy, yaws (look up some pictures of that!), were fairly widespread. Supposedly, if you could reach the age of 20 years, you could expect to live to 60, but getting to 20 was the hard part. People's drinking water was often polluted by their own wastes. Cholera, anybody? A more progressive country, Nigeria, was an Alice-in-Wonderland madhouse where you had to hire a consultant to get from the airplane through customs. And if you surrendered your passport for any reason, to get it back was really expensive and time consuming. Wakanda, my a$$! Confucius said, "the beginning of wisdom is calling things by their right names." Creating politically correct, unsupportable fantasies and encouraging people to live in falsehood is in no measure the way present problems can be either addressed or moderated.

    Any love shown between the races was generally in the direction from white to black, not the other way around. Whites and Indian merchants were generally despised.

    Locals were conspicuously absent in significant commerce – locals were marketplace bottom feeders with no capital and no inventories larger than a single person could carry.

    the middle class was very small and under the low-wage gun, and the lower classes, were destitute with zero hope of a better future.

    And you weren’t able to draw an understanding from these facts?

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  204. bomag says:
    @Truth
    ...And your insinuation is?

    Because the HIGH estimation of US welfare spending is one trillion dollars (a very small percentage of the which in all 126 welfare programs, goes to black people, by the way).

    So where is the other 8 trillion dollars?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/01/12/no-we-dont-spend-1-trillion-on-welfare-each-year/?utm_term=.c34220aaf905

    So where is the other 8 trillion dollars?

    These are two separate things. The eight trillion largely refers to the financial institution bailout in the wake of the circa 2008 financial crisis. Odious as that was, it was a one time payout to a generally productive industry.

    One trillion in welfare goes out every year until the end of time.

    a very small percentage of the… welfare programs, goes to black people

    The complaint is in the percentage use by that population.

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  205. Truth says:

    The eight trillion largely refers to the financial institution bailout in the wake of the circa 2008 financial crisis. Odious as that was, it was a one time payout to a generally productive industry.

    Well if you know where the money went, how come the Fed executive in the clip didn’t?

    The complaint is in the percentage use by that population.

    Yes, that is the problem.

    http://theweek.com/articles/498230/michele-bachmann-welfare-queen

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    how come the Fed executive in the clip didn’t
     
    She indicated that it wasn't part of her investigation and/or was part of an unfinished investigation.

    When answering in an official capacity, people get cagey.

    Michele Bachmann: 'Welfare queen'?
     
    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.

    I'm not sure we want more low-income people, but here we are.
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  206. @Authenticjazzman
    " They ( the Americans) would be defeated and the country re-united"

    Okay, In spite of my Mensa attested IQ level of ca 150:160 points I am and have been for the last four decades been unable to comprehend the, propagated by the left, criteria, as applied to the Viet Nam, for winning or losing a military conflict and that being : The side which suffers the most losses, North Viet Nam, with two and a half million fatalities, is the winning side , and the side which experiences the least losses : The US, with 55000 fatalities, is the losing side.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak.

    My beloved twenty-four year old, and since deceased brother, returned from Viet Nam in 1970, with a stiff leg and an undefeated spirit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    ——————————–

    Your “Formula” is rather laughable. Where is this mystical rule “since time immemorial” that says the side that take the highest casualties is automatically the “loser”? The Soviets took much more combat deaths than the Germans during WW2 and emerged the clear winner. Likewise the North suffered more combat deaths than the Americans and also emerged the clear winner. You simply do not have a basic grasp of history.

    And northern losses are not “2,500,000.” Where do you get this pseudo figure? A number of Western historians put total communist losses at some 666,000 dead, but figures released by the communist regime in 1995 stipulate 1.1 million dead, which includes both Viet Cong and PAVN regulars. (James Wilbanks, 2017. The Vietnam War: A Topical Exploration and Primary Source Collection) Even taking the higher communist figure and doubling it does not even get up to this mystical “2,500,000″ figure you pull out of thin air.

    And on top of all the other errors you seem to forget that the North was fighting BOTH the US AND the ARVN, whose losses range from a low of 110,000 to 250,000 depending on credible source referenced. You seem to think that only the USA was fighting in Vietnam, or that only the USA inflicted casualties on the VC/PAVN. This is even more dubious. Any accounting of losses on the “Free World” side has to include South Vietnamese losses. This much should be painfully obvious…

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    I will avoid the losses to death model, because those numbers don't actually determine who wins or loses. Sooth Vietnam lost between a million or more depending on who sets the number. What matters to me is that many were willing to give to a cause to fight for their country of S. Vietnam . The S. Vietnamese were not puppets of anyone, they preferred a way of opposed to communist governance and they put up to prove it.

    South Vietnam did have support from others as did North Vietnam.

    What is essential is that Jane Fonda and her give peace a chance crowd got nearly every single aspect of the causes and goals completely wrong.


    The only aspect that the protesters got right was that war

    is a nasty filthy business best avoided, but sometimes others leave you no choice. And North Vietnam refused to give peace a chance.
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  207. @Authenticjazzman
    " They ( the Americans) would be defeated and the country re-united"

    Okay, In spite of my Mensa attested IQ level of ca 150:160 points I am and have been for the last four decades been unable to comprehend the, propagated by the left, criteria, as applied to the Viet Nam, for winning or losing a military conflict and that being : The side which suffers the most losses, North Viet Nam, with two and a half million fatalities, is the winning side , and the side which experiences the least losses : The US, with 55000 fatalities, is the losing side.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak.

    My beloved twenty-four year old, and since deceased brother, returned from Viet Nam in 1970, with a stiff leg and an undefeated spirit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak. Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    How is this a “bizarre paradox” for a “mensa qualified” guy like you? Germany and Japan after WW2 are bursting with corporate brands like MacDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, etc., many of which were putin place not by “Leftist Big Brothers” but plain old conservative money-grubbing capitalists. Likewise with various other winners on the Allied side from Britain to Belgium. Exactly what is “bizarre” about these corporate appearances? Earlier you seem to forget that any war accounting must account for losses on BOTH sides- in the case of Vietnam: (a) the US/ARVN and (b) the VC/PAVN. If you are indeed a military veteran, how could you miss so basic a point?

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    " How is this a"bizarre paradox" for a "mensa" qualified" guy like you?

    Very simple : Nobody tried to claim the actual losers Germany or Japan were the winners, such as they, the leftists, have done for the last forty years regarding Viet Nam.

    It simply infuriates you to confront the truth about the Viet Nam "defeat" of the US, as you leftists cling to the BS fairy tale of the US having lost the war, as your "proof" of the superiorty of communism.

    And nowhere did I claim that Mcdonalds, Dunkin Donats, etc were put in place by "leftist big brothers".

    You are twisting my words around to suit your leftist agenda, and you cannot BS me.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz aritist.
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  208. I am going to half to beg off the crime and color schemas. Crime is generally more intense in low income crowded communities. As black inherited or were relegated to such communities they also inherited that same legacy of groups prior –Irish, Jews, Italians, etc. History suggests that this phenomenon is not color locked. Further exacerbating the problem is that police spent years not policing in these neighborhoods. The would freezer — calls, place responding to them as low priority and the last in line. Often communities were left to their own devices, essentially leaving criminals as power brokers. There;s nothing unique to color — – suffice it to say, anyone engaged in criminal activity makes life tough and it should be dealt with accordingly. Because even if every single murder was committed by a black person –

    the percentage of the black population responsible for 18,000 murders would be
    0.000039130434782608%. Not even a half percent of blacks commit murder. Let’s take a larger number, if I wanted to attribute all assaults roughly 1,250,000 in the US to a single population the percentage of blacks involved would be about 3%. Nothing to sneeze at, but that is sill a small segment of people to attribute a behavior to. It’s a very tough sell. If had a conniption fit over three bad apples thereby condemning the other seven percent, you might consider me unreasoned, in this case the demand is that I ignore the lives of 45,000,000 million people — in which case you call me off my rocker. Note: in neither of the accounting above have I broken down the actual color distribution of criminal acts. I just granted that every single one be attributed to a black person — which as you know is incorrect. However, that kind of irrational thinking explains why blacks were either denied employment, choice of living environment and white flight.

    I clearly understand the proportional contentions. , but I am more inclined to attribute socio-environments as opposed to skin color. And I cannot in good conscience dismiss discrimination, just because it one those actual inconvenient artifacts used to manage an entire population based on skin color. And I agree poverty, disenfranchisement, segregation, etc. is not excuse for criminal
    behavior.

    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases

    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    There was a time when I looked at the numbers and came to this or that conclusions. But numbers have a context and frame – they are not in and of themselves always explanatory.

    It would be nice to get rid of welfare, but here the numbers are overwhelmingly white both pre-1960 and afterwards. Once I learned that constructs such as redlining, segregation, short changed equity were widespread i could no longer simply –”blame black laziness or corruption”. There is that, nut it is not endemic to blacks and slave life and the life upon the end of slavery suggest otherwise.

    There are some real downsides to welfare for African american blacks, they should shun all its trappings, but what it sows is irrespective of color.

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    You make some excellent points - thanks for posting them. I remember reading about the African American community around the time of Malcolm X and it seems very different than what it is today. It seems a lot of the problems stem from the breakdown of the traditional family in that community- connected of course to the issue of welfare.

    I remember reading that the Amish fought for being exempt from the whole social security welfare project, maybe they were smart enough to know what it can engender.

    Peace.
    , @attilathehen
    Where do you live? Vermont? Iowa? You should consider moving to Baltimore, Detroit, Ferguson. When you plan your next vacation, try South Africa, let's say, visit a white South African farmer. Or even closer, try Haiti or Jamaica.
    , @EnriiqueCardovaa
    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases
    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus. And you are no flaming liberal as your criticism of the welfare system attests. You are correct on several points and it should also be noted that in our current welfare system, whites, who are much richer than blacks and earn substantially more income on average, get HIGHER welfare payments in states where whites are the majority, than areas where blacks are the majority, as several studies show. DATA:


    "The percentage of African-American population had a negative effect on the average monthly grant. Therefore those states with higher African-American populations, especially the South, had lower monthly grant amounts.. Grant amounts for African- Americans in the South were significantly lower that those for whites, ranging from 7.3 percent less in Washington. D.C. to 37.6 percent less in South Carolina."
    --Deborah Ward. 2009. The White Welfare State, p 77. 121
     
    and

    "To determine if the negative association between single-mother families and AFDC generosity is dependent on race, I incorporate the percentage of the population that is black into the model.. Doing so significantly improves our models in 1980 and 1990, as states with relatively large black populations have less generous AFDC payments... states with a larger percentage of black single-mother families have less generous welfare spending, while states with a larger proportion of white single-mother families offer more generous welfare spending.. These findings suggest that black and white families are granted uneven support by AFDC, or more specifically that the racial component of single parents in a state influences that state's generosity."
    -Marlese Durr and Shirley Hill (2006) Race, Work, and Family in the Lives of African Americans. 125-129
     
    In short, contrary to the bogus propaganda that so often prevails, whites are feeding quite profitably and disproportionately off the welfare rolls. They are not "giving away" anything to blacks, unless they themselves are first in line to benefit. It was so in the past (as you indicate) and so it is now. When Social Security first came in for example, white legislators from the south lobbied successfully for it to exclude domestic workers and agricultural workers, both at the time disproportionately black. They did not want black people to get a piece of the action despite much pious talk about "fairness" and "merit."

    So called "giveaways" are laughable propaganda. Whites also gained another bonus. Since black life expectancy was significantly shorter than that of whites, even when blacks eventually became covered by Social Security, their earlier deaths would mean they paid more into the system that they would get out before they died- with the extra benefits going to longer-lived white recipients. Amity points this out in her book- The Greedy Hand. Sweet! White people never "give away" anything unless they are the primary beneficiaries.

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  209. @anarchyst
    You are correct. South Vietnam was INVADED by the North Vietnamese communists. It was an INVASION, not a "civil-war" as many promoters of communism try to define it as. Despite not being permitted to destroy the invasion routes, and having one hand tied behind our backs, American and South Vietnamese troops did an outstanding job in delaying the communist expansion into South Vietnam.

    No argument from me.

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  210. @EnriiqueCardovaa
    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

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    Your "Formula" is rather laughable. Where is this mystical rule "since time immemorial" that says the side that take the highest casualties is automatically the "loser"? The Soviets took much more combat deaths than the Germans during WW2 and emerged the clear winner. Likewise the North suffered more combat deaths than the Americans and also emerged the clear winner. You simply do not have a basic grasp of history.

    And northern losses are not "2,500,000." Where do you get this pseudo figure? A number of Western historians put total communist losses at some 666,000 dead, but figures released by the communist regime in 1995 stipulate 1.1 million dead, which includes both Viet Cong and PAVN regulars. (James Wilbanks, 2017. The Vietnam War: A Topical Exploration and Primary Source Collection) Even taking the higher communist figure and doubling it does not even get up to this mystical "2,500,000" figure you pull out of thin air.

    And on top of all the other errors you seem to forget that the North was fighting BOTH the US AND the ARVN, whose losses range from a low of 110,000 to 250,000 depending on credible source referenced. You seem to think that only the USA was fighting in Vietnam, or that only the USA inflicted casualties on the VC/PAVN. This is even more dubious. Any accounting of losses on the "Free World" side has to include South Vietnamese losses. This much should be painfully obvious...

    I will avoid the losses to death model, because those numbers don’t actually determine who wins or loses. Sooth Vietnam lost between a million or more depending on who sets the number. What matters to me is that many were willing to give to a cause to fight for their country of S. Vietnam . The S. Vietnamese were not puppets of anyone, they preferred a way of opposed to communist governance and they put up to prove it.

    South Vietnam did have support from others as did North Vietnam.

    What is essential is that Jane Fonda and her give peace a chance crowd got nearly every single aspect of the causes and goals completely wrong.

    The only aspect that the protesters got right was that war

    is a nasty filthy business best avoided, but sometimes others leave you no choice. And North Vietnam refused to give peace a chance.

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    I would agree with much of what you say. While they did not have the ruthless determination or skill of the North, the South Vietnamese had ever right to prevent the takeover of their society by a totalitarian dictatorship, and some turned in fine performances, against a vicious enemy And I don't think Fonda et al should have gone to Hanoi to serve in their propaganda campaign. They could have made their point without doing that. (Correction- RVN/ARVN casualties up above range from 200,000-300,000 dead again depending on source.)
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  211. @martin2
    I am in the UK. Just wondering, are there really actual white people in the USA that are goofy enough to take seriously the idea that Africa would be advanced and prosperous were it not for white European colonisation and interference? Do such people really exist?

    No, I don’t believe there are that many white people in the USA who believe in the “we wuz kangz” nonsense, and that European colonization is the cause of Africa’s backwardness. The big picture is Caucasians/Europeans know the truth but are still too cowardly to admit it out loud. At this point in world history, we can see that it was the Caucasian/Aryan/European races who created civilizations. World history can be summed up in 2 words: IQ. The Asians are second and blacks are last. The world has been settled, IQs measured, and races delineated. Are you familiar with the book “The Bell Curve” which deals with IQ? In order to have a functioning society, the people who make it up must have an IQ of 90+. There is nonsense going on about how East Asians are smarter than Caucasians. They are not. Asians/blacks don’t have the Faustian spirit, another requirement. And Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. This miscegenated, meshuggah melange had nothing to do with Western civilization. Asians create second tier countries, blacks the worst countries. We also know that mixing with blacks/Asians destroys IQ.

    But avoiding the IQ issue and its relation to race is becoming more difficult to deny every day. The invasion of Europe by blacks/Muslims/Asians is causing deadly problems. I don’t need to tell you about what’s going on in the UK. We are also reaching the breaking point. In the USA, billions and billions have been spent to improve blacks. It has been nothing but a waste of money. The biggest obstacles (which will soon be overcome) are the Roman Catholic Church and the evangelical Protestants in the USA. Are you RCC or a Protestant? In Europe, cuck pope Frannie is one of biggest supporters of the invasion. Here, the USA RCC is the biggest supporter of illegals from Latin America. The Protestants are in competition with the RCC for converts so they are enablers. A new Christian church only for the West will have to be created. Blacks/Asians can have their own churches in their countries.

    A new history with IQ/race as part of the core will have to be taught. In the West, the Bible is the most important book. But it only tells a partial history of the world. The Bible is focused on the Middle East (which at that time was comprised of Caucasians). It was a small part of the world but of course what happened changed world history. Abraham lived around 2000 BC. However, there were 2 great civilizations in existence: Egypt and India. The Egypt mentioned in the Bible is the Caucasian Egypt. The India mentioned in the Bible is the Aryan India. Today, those ancient countries no longer exist. The Caucasian Egyptians mixed with blacks to produce present day Egyptians (avg. IQ 81) and the Aryan Indians mixed with Asians to produce present day Indians (avg. IQ 82). The most important objective reality, truth is IQ. Loss of IQ is the end of a civilization. IQ loss is what the West and its populations is facing if it does not deal with the invaders. Religion will have to be taught differently.

    There was a movie made in 1968 “The Planet of the Apes.” At the end, Charlton Heston sees the broken Statue of Liberty. We can see this same movie ending in present day Egypt. When anyone goes to visit the Pyramids and ancient temples, and you see the present day Egyptians around you, people who will never be able to do what the ancient Egyptians did, this science fiction movie is a mirror of present day reality. This is the same if you go to India and marvel at the ancient temples and the complex Hindu philosophical system. Today’s Indians can only mimic what the ancients created. The Bible does not deal with IQ. We have to deal with it and take appropriate measures. Separation is the best way.

    What are the English going to do to prevent Harry from marrying the negress?

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  212. bomag says:
    @Truth

    The eight trillion largely refers to the financial institution bailout in the wake of the circa 2008 financial crisis. Odious as that was, it was a one time payout to a generally productive industry.
     
    Well if you know where the money went, how come the Fed executive in the clip didn't?

    The complaint is in the percentage use by that population.
     
    Yes, that is the problem.

    http://theweek.com/articles/498230/michele-bachmann-welfare-queen

    how come the Fed executive in the clip didn’t

    She indicated that it wasn’t part of her investigation and/or was part of an unfinished investigation.

    When answering in an official capacity, people get cagey.

    Michele Bachmann: ‘Welfare queen’?

    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.

    I’m not sure we want more low-income people, but here we are.

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    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.
     
    So you inherit some land from your father, and can't find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products.

    I used Ag subsidies as an example of where MOST welfare money goes; upper-middle class whites.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-26/those-pointless-upper-middle-class-entitlements

    Specifically, the 40% of American adults with incomes just below the top 10% received more in safety net government transfers (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps/SNAP, Veterans’ benefits, etc., but excluding Social Security) than the bottom 50% of Americans.
     
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/05/01/absurd-amount-entitlements-go-rich-people

    So there you go, William Jennings Bryan, you've learned something you were unaware of. Now the question is, do your opinions change as well?
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  213. Talha says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    I am going to half to beg off the crime and color schemas. Crime is generally more intense in low income crowded communities. As black inherited or were relegated to such communities they also inherited that same legacy of groups prior --Irish, Jews, Italians, etc. History suggests that this phenomenon is not color locked. Further exacerbating the problem is that police spent years not policing in these neighborhoods. The would freezer -- calls, place responding to them as low priority and the last in line. Often communities were left to their own devices, essentially leaving criminals as power brokers. There;s nothing unique to color -- -- suffice it to say, anyone engaged in criminal activity makes life tough and it should be dealt with accordingly. Because even if every single murder was committed by a black person --

    the percentage of the black population responsible for 18,000 murders would be
    0.000039130434782608%. Not even a half percent of blacks commit murder. Let's take a larger number, if I wanted to attribute all assaults roughly 1,250,000 in the US to a single population the percentage of blacks involved would be about 3%. Nothing to sneeze at, but that is sill a small segment of people to attribute a behavior to. It's a very tough sell. If had a conniption fit over three bad apples thereby condemning the other seven percent, you might consider me unreasoned, in this case the demand is that I ignore the lives of 45,000,000 million people -- in which case you call me off my rocker. Note: in neither of the accounting above have I broken down the actual color distribution of criminal acts. I just granted that every single one be attributed to a black person -- which as you know is incorrect. However, that kind of irrational thinking explains why blacks were either denied employment, choice of living environment and white flight.

    I clearly understand the proportional contentions. , but I am more inclined to attribute socio-environments as opposed to skin color. And I cannot in good conscience dismiss discrimination, just because it one those actual inconvenient artifacts used to manage an entire population based on skin color. And I agree poverty, disenfranchisement, segregation, etc. is not excuse for criminal
    behavior.

    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960's. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities' charities. There are two tell tale cases

    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans -- and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin's New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication -- that doesn't spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    There was a time when I looked at the numbers and came to this or that conclusions. But numbers have a context and frame - they are not in and of themselves always explanatory.

    It would be nice to get rid of welfare, but here the numbers are overwhelmingly white both pre-1960 and afterwards. Once I learned that constructs such as redlining, segregation, short changed equity were widespread i could no longer simply --"blame black laziness or corruption". There is that, nut it is not endemic to blacks and slave life and the life upon the end of slavery suggest otherwise.

    There are some real downsides to welfare for African american blacks, they should shun all its trappings, but what it sows is irrespective of color.

    You make some excellent points – thanks for posting them. I remember reading about the African American community around the time of Malcolm X and it seems very different than what it is today. It seems a lot of the problems stem from the breakdown of the traditional family in that community- connected of course to the issue of welfare.

    I remember reading that the Amish fought for being exempt from the whole social security welfare project, maybe they were smart enough to know what it can engender.

    Peace.

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    Well,


    I can't speak for the Amish. Welfare is intended as a help. Whether it helps or nor not is dependent on a lot of factors. but the record suggests it's not the result of some innate trait harbored by blacks.

    Beware of those who come crying peace peace . . .

    And the Amish tend to take care of their own and avoid government and worldly entanglements, so welfare they have, it's just not from the government.

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  214. @EliteCommInc.
    I am going to half to beg off the crime and color schemas. Crime is generally more intense in low income crowded communities. As black inherited or were relegated to such communities they also inherited that same legacy of groups prior --Irish, Jews, Italians, etc. History suggests that this phenomenon is not color locked. Further exacerbating the problem is that police spent years not policing in these neighborhoods. The would freezer -- calls, place responding to them as low priority and the last in line. Often communities were left to their own devices, essentially leaving criminals as power brokers. There;s nothing unique to color -- -- suffice it to say, anyone engaged in criminal activity makes life tough and it should be dealt with accordingly. Because even if every single murder was committed by a black person --

    the percentage of the black population responsible for 18,000 murders would be
    0.000039130434782608%. Not even a half percent of blacks commit murder. Let's take a larger number, if I wanted to attribute all assaults roughly 1,250,000 in the US to a single population the percentage of blacks involved would be about 3%. Nothing to sneeze at, but that is sill a small segment of people to attribute a behavior to. It's a very tough sell. If had a conniption fit over three bad apples thereby condemning the other seven percent, you might consider me unreasoned, in this case the demand is that I ignore the lives of 45,000,000 million people -- in which case you call me off my rocker. Note: in neither of the accounting above have I broken down the actual color distribution of criminal acts. I just granted that every single one be attributed to a black person -- which as you know is incorrect. However, that kind of irrational thinking explains why blacks were either denied employment, choice of living environment and white flight.

    I clearly understand the proportional contentions. , but I am more inclined to attribute socio-environments as opposed to skin color. And I cannot in good conscience dismiss discrimination, just because it one those actual inconvenient artifacts used to manage an entire population based on skin color. And I agree poverty, disenfranchisement, segregation, etc. is not excuse for criminal
    behavior.

    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960's. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities' charities. There are two tell tale cases

    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans -- and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin's New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication -- that doesn't spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    There was a time when I looked at the numbers and came to this or that conclusions. But numbers have a context and frame - they are not in and of themselves always explanatory.

    It would be nice to get rid of welfare, but here the numbers are overwhelmingly white both pre-1960 and afterwards. Once I learned that constructs such as redlining, segregation, short changed equity were widespread i could no longer simply --"blame black laziness or corruption". There is that, nut it is not endemic to blacks and slave life and the life upon the end of slavery suggest otherwise.

    There are some real downsides to welfare for African american blacks, they should shun all its trappings, but what it sows is irrespective of color.

    Where do you live? Vermont? Iowa? You should consider moving to Baltimore, Detroit, Ferguson. When you plan your next vacation, try South Africa, let’s say, visit a white South African farmer. Or even closer, try Haiti or Jamaica.

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    Don't go there with him, because he never seemed to have experienced direct negative consequences from afros, thus he does not really believe they exist to the degree that they do. I truly like EliteCommInc for I believe he is truly sincere in what he believes. I do not believe he is a leftist who just wants to condemn other whites for their supposed racism. He seems to be a lot more intelligent than I am. That said, I been through this merry go round with him before, to which he strongly adheres to a myopic experience in this particular subject, which somewhat applies to what I wrote before:

    But the worst part of this is that: it ignores the Non Black (and Black) crime victims. It never acknowledges that theses victims were real people with names & faces, addresses, date of birth, place of birth, with mothers & fathers, have family & friends, hopes & dreams, jobs, and lives. Instead they are ignored on the alter of Whites making excuses in trying to feel good about themselves. Thus, these ignored victims are sacrificed so other isolated Whites do not have to think about it, and hope afros will love them for their "fair minded" efforts. These whites claim to have compassion, yet don’t have empathy with the devastating effect of being a victim of afro violence (and that is why most libs & leftist are hated by others).
     
    I do not believe he is callous as much as he is trying to be a fair minded individual, yet he does not realize that many of us dealt with the direct consequences of bad afro behavior, and our statements are from personal empirical experience (which resulted in the real consequences of serious injury, and death, to people we have known), not to pass judgement from afar. I hope for his sake he does not learn the hard way.

    He will make great efforts to say your, and others, negative afro experiences never happened. This will just infuriate you because once you suffered, or know others who suffered, from unprovoked afro attacks, then you cannot deny such reality just because an intellectual says so. What he believes about this particular subject is basically akin to saying putting your hand on a hot stove is okay!
    Good luck.

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  215. @EliteCommInc.
    I will avoid the losses to death model, because those numbers don't actually determine who wins or loses. Sooth Vietnam lost between a million or more depending on who sets the number. What matters to me is that many were willing to give to a cause to fight for their country of S. Vietnam . The S. Vietnamese were not puppets of anyone, they preferred a way of opposed to communist governance and they put up to prove it.

    South Vietnam did have support from others as did North Vietnam.

    What is essential is that Jane Fonda and her give peace a chance crowd got nearly every single aspect of the causes and goals completely wrong.


    The only aspect that the protesters got right was that war

    is a nasty filthy business best avoided, but sometimes others leave you no choice. And North Vietnam refused to give peace a chance.

    I would agree with much of what you say. While they did not have the ruthless determination or skill of the North, the South Vietnamese had ever right to prevent the takeover of their society by a totalitarian dictatorship, and some turned in fine performances, against a vicious enemy And I don’t think Fonda et al should have gone to Hanoi to serve in their propaganda campaign. They could have made their point without doing that. (Correction- RVN/ARVN casualties up above range from 200,000-300,000 dead again depending on source.)

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  216. Truth says:
    @bomag

    how come the Fed executive in the clip didn’t
     
    She indicated that it wasn't part of her investigation and/or was part of an unfinished investigation.

    When answering in an official capacity, people get cagey.

    Michele Bachmann: 'Welfare queen'?
     
    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.

    I'm not sure we want more low-income people, but here we are.

    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.

    So you inherit some land from your father, and can’t find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products.

    I used Ag subsidies as an example of where MOST welfare money goes; upper-middle class whites.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-26/those-pointless-upper-middle-class-entitlements

    Specifically, the 40% of American adults with incomes just below the top 10% received more in safety net government transfers (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps/SNAP, Veterans’ benefits, etc., but excluding Social Security) than the bottom 50% of Americans.

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/05/01/absurd-amount-entitlements-go-rich-people

    So there you go, William Jennings Bryan, you’ve learned something you were unaware of. Now the question is, do your opinions change as well?

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    You're trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.

    Per household use of Medicare and SS is higher in upper income households because they paid in more and live longer, in general. It is the nature of the programs.


    So you inherit some land from your father, and can’t find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?
     
    I'm not a fan of the farm program, but the dirty little secret is that farming is so competitive that subsidies quickly get rolled into rents and capital expenditures. Thus the farm program helps landlords and John Deere. Plus, there is a local service agency covering every county in the country; beautiful way to make it politically untouchable. Last I checked, what commodity farmers actually cashed each year from Uncle was around six billion dollars; this is in a 500 billion dollar industry. And many farmers, such as livestock; fruit and vegetable; receive no direct subsidy (though there was some programs for them in the 2013 bill).

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products
     
    Valuing someone purely for their consumption doesn't look like a good long term plan.
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  217. @Talha
    You make some excellent points - thanks for posting them. I remember reading about the African American community around the time of Malcolm X and it seems very different than what it is today. It seems a lot of the problems stem from the breakdown of the traditional family in that community- connected of course to the issue of welfare.

    I remember reading that the Amish fought for being exempt from the whole social security welfare project, maybe they were smart enough to know what it can engender.

    Peace.

    Well,

    I can’t speak for the Amish. Welfare is intended as a help. Whether it helps or nor not is dependent on a lot of factors. but the record suggests it’s not the result of some innate trait harbored by blacks.

    Beware of those who come crying peace peace . . .

    And the Amish tend to take care of their own and avoid government and worldly entanglements, so welfare they have, it’s just not from the government.

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  218. Hacienda says:
    @Talha

    These civilizations, if we can call them that
     
    I don't think you can. You can call them cultures - in fact they might be great cultures or horrible ones (depends on various circumstances).

    But the world "civilization" is predicated on the notions of citizenship which is where the word derives from Latin. Civilization describes city-dwelling cultures as opposed to other types.

    Peace.

    Civilization describes city-dwelling cultures as opposed to other types.

    And that’s all it is. It’s not a hammer to pound people who don’t live in cities. And if every thesis has its anti-thesis, the thesis of the modern city has its anti-thesis in nuclear bombs. Quite the prize it is to be civilized.

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  219. @EnriiqueCardovaa
    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak. Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    How is this a "bizarre paradox" for a "mensa qualified" guy like you? Germany and Japan after WW2 are bursting with corporate brands like MacDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, etc., many of which were putin place not by "Leftist Big Brothers" but plain old conservative money-grubbing capitalists. Likewise with various other winners on the Allied side from Britain to Belgium. Exactly what is "bizarre" about these corporate appearances? Earlier you seem to forget that any war accounting must account for losses on BOTH sides- in the case of Vietnam: (a) the US/ARVN and (b) the VC/PAVN. If you are indeed a military veteran, how could you miss so basic a point?

    ” How is this a”bizarre paradox” for a “mensa” qualified” guy like you?

    Very simple : Nobody tried to claim the actual losers Germany or Japan were the winners, such as they, the leftists, have done for the last forty years regarding Viet Nam.

    It simply infuriates you to confront the truth about the Viet Nam “defeat” of the US, as you leftists cling to the BS fairy tale of the US having lost the war, as your “proof” of the superiorty of communism.

    And nowhere did I claim that Mcdonalds, Dunkin Donats, etc were put in place by “leftist big brothers”.

    You are twisting my words around to suit your leftist agenda, and you cannot BS me.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz aritist.

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    Laughable baloney. There is no "leftist fairy tale" as you say in regarding the outcome for the US as a loss. Numerous hardcore, conservative military men say it was a defeat. You don;t seem to be able to grasp the basics of history and appear rather uninformed despite much touting of your "mensa qualifications." Numerous credible US military sources as well as credible historians, all say clearly that the US was defeated in the Vietnam War.

    If you were, as you claim, a military man, you should know that war is an instrument of policy. If you fail to achieve your policy objectives after expending much blood and treasure, you have been defeated. It is well know that the US never lost a large scale battalion sized engagement or higher in Vietnam, though some units suffered defeat in company sized engagements and below, which were the size of most of the engagements in Vietnam. But victory in a war is not measured merely by how well you do in battalion sized engagements. Your claim is a bit like saying the Russians "won" in Afghanistan- a laughable notion. If your policy objective, towards which you expended substantial military force is not accomplished, then it counts as a defeat, in most credible senses of the word. Any "mensa qualified" person should be able to grasp this basic fact.

    Credible PRO-US historians like Lewis Sorley candidly acknowledge the loss- America failed to maintain an independent South Vietnam, which was its objective for getting into the war, and sending 58,000 troops to die. They explore various blunders made, not just by "the politicians" but military blunders by US commanders like Westmoreland. In fact Sorley wrote a book called: Westmoreland: The General that lost Vietnam' and wrote that under Creighton Abrams, the US made better progress- severely hurting the Viet Cong, whose ranks had to be increasingly filled by NVA. But again, he does not deny the bottom line- it was a loss. Says the PRO-military Sorley:


    "In Vietnam, Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker, General Creighton Abrams, and Ambassador William Colby fought as hard as they could for as long as they could with everything that was left to them to try to win the war. Maybe others in Washington or elsewhere were interested in stalemate or disengagement or some other palliative solution, but these three men and the forces they led were striving for just one thing: victory — victory defined as a South Vietnam capable of defending itself and determining its own political, economic, and cultural future.. In the wake of the defeat came untold further misery.."
    --Lewis Sorley 1999. A Better War, p387-409
     
    Here is one credible military source- from the US Marines for example, has to say. He rounds up 12 areas that in his analysis hurt the US effort, including not committing enough troops, withholding of the ready reserve, poor deployment of a significant slice of troop strength, etc.. He then sums up by saying these mistakes led to total disaster. And he is only one of several military men who fought in Vietnam who candidly says the same.
    QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:

    "Politics dominates war; but for war to be waged successfully, those responsible for political decisions must comprehend not only the larger circumstances of the war, but also the effect of their political decisions on the military situation. Here a senior Marine commander assesses what several political decisions really meant to those who fought the war in Vietnam...

    ..These 12 decisions with their main genesis coming from Washington, which was some 10.000 miles distance from the battle area, could bring but one result—total disaster."
    --Raymond G., USMC. "Politics and War: Twelve Fatal Decisions That Rendered Defeat in Vietnam." Marine Corps Gazette (August 1989)
     

    The Marine veteran blames blunders in Washington for the defeat, blunders that extend into the Nixon Administration. But he does not deny that the outcome was "a total disaster."

    Here again is another analysis by US Marines:


    "The development of the war itself has been scrutinized in great detail, and it would serve little purpose here to attempt to enlarge upon this body of work. That said, two dominant opposing analyses have emerged regarding the American defeat in Vietnam. Some assert that the United States conducted a conventional war against an unconventional opponent; others counter that the conflict was in fact a conventional war and that the insurgency was a sideshow.34 Regardless, the main point is [b]that American defeat [/b]appeared to discredit the theory of counterinsurgency, and the term virtually disappeared from the military lexicon. Consequently, for the remainder of the 1970s, the U.S.military virtually ignored the theory and doctrine of counterinsurgency, concentrating on conventional warfare and focusing on the Soviet threat in Europe."
    --Marine Corps University Journal: Volum2 3: No 1, SPring 2011. p47
     
    There are not "wild-eyed lefties" saying this but Marine Corps veterans, who seem to have a better handle on the facts than the alleged "mensa qualified." Here is another US military man who commanded troops in Vietnam- Colonel Harry Summers:

    "from the perspective of our total victory in World War II, Korea still looked like a defeat and its is only from the perspective of our actual defeat in Vietnam that we can see that Korea was actually a victory."
    --Harry G. Summers. 2012. American Strategy in Vietnam: A Critical Analysis
     
    .
    It is strange that the alleged "mensa qualified" cannot grasp the basic facts demonstrated by both hardcore military veterans, or credible PRO military historians.
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  220. joef says:
    @attilathehen
    Where do you live? Vermont? Iowa? You should consider moving to Baltimore, Detroit, Ferguson. When you plan your next vacation, try South Africa, let's say, visit a white South African farmer. Or even closer, try Haiti or Jamaica.

    Don’t go there with him, because he never seemed to have experienced direct negative consequences from afros, thus he does not really believe they exist to the degree that they do. I truly like EliteCommInc for I believe he is truly sincere in what he believes. I do not believe he is a leftist who just wants to condemn other whites for their supposed racism. He seems to be a lot more intelligent than I am. That said, I been through this merry go round with him before, to which he strongly adheres to a myopic experience in this particular subject, which somewhat applies to what I wrote before:

    But the worst part of this is that: it ignores the Non Black (and Black) crime victims. It never acknowledges that theses victims were real people with names & faces, addresses, date of birth, place of birth, with mothers & fathers, have family & friends, hopes & dreams, jobs, and lives. Instead they are ignored on the alter of Whites making excuses in trying to feel good about themselves. Thus, these ignored victims are sacrificed so other isolated Whites do not have to think about it, and hope afros will love them for their “fair minded” efforts. These whites claim to have compassion, yet don’t have empathy with the devastating effect of being a victim of afro violence (and that is why most libs & leftist are hated by others).

    I do not believe he is callous as much as he is trying to be a fair minded individual, yet he does not realize that many of us dealt with the direct consequences of bad afro behavior, and our statements are from personal empirical experience (which resulted in the real consequences of serious injury, and death, to people we have known), not to pass judgement from afar. I hope for his sake he does not learn the hard way.

    He will make great efforts to say your, and others, negative afro experiences never happened. This will just infuriate you because once you suffered, or know others who suffered, from unprovoked afro attacks, then you cannot deny such reality just because an intellectual says so. What he believes about this particular subject is basically akin to saying putting your hand on a hot stove is okay!
    Good luck.

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    More simply put, I think the boy huffs way too much glue before posting one of his oblivious Rosanne Rosannadanna screeds.
    , @Anonymous
    He's also black.
    , @attilathehen
    Good comment about Elite. He's another one of the commentators who lives in his world. He has no clue about reality. Just a heads up, I'm a white girl, contra Anonymous. He's pissed because of what I said about Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer/gentile Freemason males. Most of these anon characters can't handle the truth.
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  221. @EliteCommInc.
    As opposed to white exploitation films Tarzan, Mama's Boys, Grindhouse, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Last House on the Left, Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 2, 3, . . . , Friday the 13th 1, 2 . . .etc, Halloween . . . 6 . . . , I Spit On Your Grave . . ., Black Christmas (there's some irony), Prom Night, Your Next, Hatchet, Psycho . . . wrong Turn . . .

    Now admittedly, I haven';t seen many of these films, but the motivation is quite clear with entire sites dedicated to satisfying the palate of white fears, violence with a side order of illicit relations.


    Now granted there are more whites than blacks in this country so one should expect more white exploitation . . . I know I am supposed to be on the politically correct path of denouncing all things black . . . but good grief.

    LOL

    I will not sit here and let you call Psycho an exploitation film, you poltroon.

    (Glove slap)

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  222. @Talha
    Buyer’s Remorse...

    I thought White folks were super future-oriented- what happened? Didn’t they see this coming?

    Suggestion; offer Blacks six contiguous states of their choice as a new ethnic homeland. Shake hands, part ways and keep the CIA out. Call it New Wakanda!!!

    Peace.

    I suppose we could have castrated our African slaves like the Arabs did. They have no black problem today. Just myriad self-made ones.

    I agree with your suggestion, though it would need to be walled off from the remaining white American states. Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they were willing to be sold into slavery for a chance to get back into a white country.

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    Hey Doc Krieger,

    For the record, the Arabs (and Turks) rarely did the castration, but definitely imported them like that. I get what you are saying, but the problem in Western-style slavery was in its nature. They wanted a sub-class of segregated human labor that one could grow - why buy slaves and import them all the way from Africa when one could breed them? And what kind of slaves did one want for heavy manual labor? Tough, healthy...mostly physical qualities.

    The Arabs (and Turks) used African slaves for totally different purposes (well, definitely after the Zanj Rebellion). They were more used as household labor, harem guards, government administrators (one of the reasons for eunuchs was that a eunuch governor would not go rogue since he had no progeny to pass on his domain to), soldiers...and of course concubines.

    Furthermore, the segregation along racial lines simply was not present - for instance, the fabulously wealthy king of Mali would import Turkish slaves. There were no separate facilities or schools, etc. for Black slaves - the break was more along slave-versus-free lines. So over time Blacks and their progeny were simply absorbed into the society at large.

    All of this is outlined in one of the best books written on the subject:
    https://www.amazon.com/Islams-Black-Slaves-Other-Diaspora/dp/0374527970

    This is a review of the book and summarizes the difference in Western slavery and that in the Muslim world:
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/03/04/reviews/010304.04hochsct.html

    Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break).
     
    Some would, sure. But I think they could pull themselves together if there was no option but to sink or swim. Would it be as grand as what they separated from? Likely not, but at least they would be capable of plotting out their own destinies as best they could.

    Peace.
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  223. @Authenticjazzman
    " They ( the Americans) would be defeated and the country re-united"

    Okay, In spite of my Mensa attested IQ level of ca 150:160 points I am and have been for the last four decades been unable to comprehend the, propagated by the left, criteria, as applied to the Viet Nam, for winning or losing a military conflict and that being : The side which suffers the most losses, North Viet Nam, with two and a half million fatalities, is the winning side , and the side which experiences the least losses : The US, with 55000 fatalities, is the losing side.

    This formula, being a total reversal of all parameters, and criteria since time immorial, is simply designed to make the actual losers, namely the North Viet Nam peoples, appear as the winners, and the actual winners : the USA to appear as the losers, in order to fulfill typical leftist propaganda requirements, and goals.

    USA : 55 000 casualities = Losers

    North Viet Nam 2 500 ooo casualities = winners

    And added to this bizarre paradox the apparition of the current nation of Viet Nam, bursting with USA elements such as Mc Donalds, Dunken Donuts, Burger King and skate boards, and we have yet another Kaisers new suit
    conumdrum served up by the world-wide leftist big-brothers = The present day usurpers and owners of = New speak.

    My beloved twenty-four year old, and since deceased brother, returned from Viet Nam in 1970, with a stiff leg and an undefeated spirit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Its amazing to see how an article about a black Marvel movie, ended up producing a comment thread about the Vietnam War.

    [email protected]#king ponderous man. Ponderous.

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  224. @joef
    Don't go there with him, because he never seemed to have experienced direct negative consequences from afros, thus he does not really believe they exist to the degree that they do. I truly like EliteCommInc for I believe he is truly sincere in what he believes. I do not believe he is a leftist who just wants to condemn other whites for their supposed racism. He seems to be a lot more intelligent than I am. That said, I been through this merry go round with him before, to which he strongly adheres to a myopic experience in this particular subject, which somewhat applies to what I wrote before:

    But the worst part of this is that: it ignores the Non Black (and Black) crime victims. It never acknowledges that theses victims were real people with names & faces, addresses, date of birth, place of birth, with mothers & fathers, have family & friends, hopes & dreams, jobs, and lives. Instead they are ignored on the alter of Whites making excuses in trying to feel good about themselves. Thus, these ignored victims are sacrificed so other isolated Whites do not have to think about it, and hope afros will love them for their "fair minded" efforts. These whites claim to have compassion, yet don’t have empathy with the devastating effect of being a victim of afro violence (and that is why most libs & leftist are hated by others).
     
    I do not believe he is callous as much as he is trying to be a fair minded individual, yet he does not realize that many of us dealt with the direct consequences of bad afro behavior, and our statements are from personal empirical experience (which resulted in the real consequences of serious injury, and death, to people we have known), not to pass judgement from afar. I hope for his sake he does not learn the hard way.

    He will make great efforts to say your, and others, negative afro experiences never happened. This will just infuriate you because once you suffered, or know others who suffered, from unprovoked afro attacks, then you cannot deny such reality just because an intellectual says so. What he believes about this particular subject is basically akin to saying putting your hand on a hot stove is okay!
    Good luck.

    More simply put, I think the boy huffs way too much glue before posting one of his oblivious Rosanne Rosannadanna screeds.

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    Nevertheless, I do not believe he is malicious, just very misinformed, from a lack of empirical experience in this subject matter. He overly relies on statistical analysis, which he should know better, since conclusions obtained from stats are usually based on what is focused on. Thus, it can distort the picture of showing only what you want to show about a particular subject. However, what he does not understand is believing in a particular set of statistical analysis does not protect you from real misfortune in the afro ghetto mean streets. Only two things can: either you avoid it, or you make yourself a hard target that ghetto afros are unwilling to attack (you certainly cannot depend on their mercy because none will be given). He does not understand that we do not choose to feel this way about afros; instead these are simply the times we live in, and we must react to it the best we can (anything else would just be self deception).
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  225. TG says:

    Well, why not??

    I mean, we are supposed to believe that Angelina Jolie and her pipe-cleaner-thin arms can punch out a marine?

    We are supposed to believe that Peter Pan can fly?

    We are supposed to believe that Keanu Reeves can have 200 guys shooting at him with automatic weapons and they hardly even scratch him?

    We are supposed to believe that Dick Cheney is a nice guy who cares deeply about his fellow citizens? No, wait, we aren’t supposed to believe that. Never mind.

    If I want reality all I need to do is walk down the streets. Movies are fantasies. Whites have their own ridiculous heroes. James Bond is absurd, but I suspect a lot of the attraction is ordinary boring white men fantasizing that they could be like that, if only for a moment. I don’t plan on seeing this movie, but I also don’t care.

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  226. Talha says:
    @Dr. Krieger
    I suppose we could have castrated our African slaves like the Arabs did. They have no black problem today. Just myriad self-made ones.

    I agree with your suggestion, though it would need to be walled off from the remaining white American states. Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break). I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were willing to be sold into slavery for a chance to get back into a white country.

    Hey Doc Krieger,

    For the record, the Arabs (and Turks) rarely did the castration, but definitely imported them like that. I get what you are saying, but the problem in Western-style slavery was in its nature. They wanted a sub-class of segregated human labor that one could grow – why buy slaves and import them all the way from Africa when one could breed them? And what kind of slaves did one want for heavy manual labor? Tough, healthy…mostly physical qualities.

    The Arabs (and Turks) used African slaves for totally different purposes (well, definitely after the Zanj Rebellion). They were more used as household labor, harem guards, government administrators (one of the reasons for eunuchs was that a eunuch governor would not go rogue since he had no progeny to pass on his domain to), soldiers…and of course concubines.

    Furthermore, the segregation along racial lines simply was not present – for instance, the fabulously wealthy king of Mali would import Turkish slaves. There were no separate facilities or schools, etc. for Black slaves – the break was more along slave-versus-free lines. So over time Blacks and their progeny were simply absorbed into the society at large.

    All of this is outlined in one of the best books written on the subject:

    https://www.amazon.com/Islams-Black-Slaves-Other-Diaspora/dp/0374527970

    This is a review of the book and summarizes the difference in Western slavery and that in the Muslim world:

    http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/03/04/reviews/010304.04hochsct.html

    Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break).

    Some would, sure. But I think they could pull themselves together if there was no option but to sink or swim. Would it be as grand as what they separated from? Likely not, but at least they would be capable of plotting out their own destinies as best they could.

    Peace.

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    soldiers…and of course concubines.
     
    Female concubines, and male.
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  227. @Diversity Heretic
    Black Panther is on the top of my "must miss" list. It may do okay in the U.S. due to black patronage, but it's a non-starter in the increasingly important Asian market. Unfortunately, it will reinforce the "We wuz Kangs" delusions of blacks.

    I can’t wait. Just hope the audience in the theatre doesn’t decide to Wakanda my ass!
    Get dat cracka! Das da mufugga stole Wakanda! Cave beast!

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    I think that would be an excellent way to die, Sport; you would be sacrificing your life to prove the unzistian axiom that the mass media doesn't cover black on white murder.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I be like: Run, mane. Dey finna wakanda yo ass up in here.
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  228. ‘Significantly, MCU’s treatment of “Thor,” the hero based on the Northern European god, featured a multicultural Asgard with black Nordic deities. ‘

    Incredible, and all whites do, or can do, is sit there stupified, disbelieving, stewing in their juices (that is, if they have any capacity for depth of character, a more and more rare thing). I saw last year a production of the Odyssey with a half-black cast. Blacks included Telemachus (Odysseus’s son), Penelope (O’s wife) and Zeus–fortunately, I felt, (thanks for the scrap there) not Odysseus himself. Are you f—ing kidding me? Ancient Greece?? No, they’re not. But at the Q and A with some of the actors and director afterwards, nobody but nobody even seemed to notice. I too lost courage–can’t be called a hateful, unenlightened racist white m’f—er. I wonder truly if anyone of the crowd of ‘nice people’, those ones that read the Guardian and are just genuinely unaware of race, not noticed, but were bothered by this. My guess is no.

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    " I wonder truly if anyone of the crowd of ‘nice people’, those ones that read the Guardian and are just genuinely unaware of race, not noticed, but were bothered by this."

    I'd guess that people who seemed to be unbothered by the casting were pretending not to notice the race of the characters. That's what is meant by being colorblind, at least to their minds.
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  229. @Dave Pinsen
    Not something I'd pay to see, but I don't have a problem with this. There's nothing new or wrong with a fictional movie being aspirational and unrealistic. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/Coming to America (1988) featured a prosperous, non-existent African kingdom.

    I suggest you go into deepest Brooklyn, Bronx or North Philly for opening night, place yourself right in the middle of the theater, and see how you feel, how the youfs treat you. Let me know if you plan to, and I’ll pray for your soul.

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    LMFAO!

    All because he has no problem with a movie that he has no interest in seeing, being made, in a free country?
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  230. joef says:
    @Twodees Partain
    More simply put, I think the boy huffs way too much glue before posting one of his oblivious Rosanne Rosannadanna screeds.

    Nevertheless, I do not believe he is malicious, just very misinformed, from a lack of empirical experience in this subject matter. He overly relies on statistical analysis, which he should know better, since conclusions obtained from stats are usually based on what is focused on. Thus, it can distort the picture of showing only what you want to show about a particular subject. However, what he does not understand is believing in a particular set of statistical analysis does not protect you from real misfortune in the afro ghetto mean streets. Only two things can: either you avoid it, or you make yourself a hard target that ghetto afros are unwilling to attack (you certainly cannot depend on their mercy because none will be given). He does not understand that we do not choose to feel this way about afros; instead these are simply the times we live in, and we must react to it the best we can (anything else would just be self deception).

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    Probably not malicious, agreed, but the non sequitor reply he made to my observation that the old Roger Corman films were once called "blaxploitation films" just deserved no response at all. Studious ignorance is the term that comes to mind.
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  231. @Crawfurdmuir

    Actually, between one-half and two-thirds of European immigrants to the Thirteen Colonies between the 1630s and the American Revolution came under indentures.
     
    These mostly came after the end of the seventeenth century. See:

    http://usinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/USImmigrationhistorylutton.pdf

    "The southern colonies attracted the younger sons of aristocratic families, doctors, lawyers and others from whom large estates provided both a livelihood and social distinction. The northern colonies were primarily settled by Separatists and Puritans, whose motive for leaving England was largely religious, as well as by middle‐class townspeople, who had gained a measure of political experience during the Cromwellian Revolution. They and their descendants led the colonies in the areas of trade and manufacturing.(...)

    "After the French under Louis XIV seized the Palatinate at the beginning of the eighteenth century, thousands of Germans fled to England, where the government encouraged them to migrate to North America. More than 30,000 Germans arrived in America in 1708‐ 1709.

    "Large numbers of Germans became indentured servants, contracting with ship owners for passage in return for service for a term of years. When the ships arrived in America, captains auctioned these indentured servants off to already established settlers. After 1717, a new breed of unscrupulous agents, called 'new‐landers' and 'soul‐stealers,' lured thousands of German peasants to America. The shipmasters paid a commission to the agents and, once the emigrants arrived, the newcomers were sold to 'soul‐drivers,' who in turn, indentured them to farmers. After serving a term of three to five years service, these redemptioners usually received fifty acres of land."

    The British government, as the linked article indicates, did try to force convicts and paupers on the colonies, but the colonial authorities protested and tried to discourage their settlement. Once the First Congress of the United States convened (its membership including many who had previously been delegates to the Constitutional Convention), among the first legislation it passed was the Naturalization Act of 1790, restricting citizenship to free white persons of good character who had been resident in the U.S. for two years. It excluded indentured servants, blacks whether free or slave, and American Indians. In 1795 the residence requirement was raised to five years; in 1798, to fourteen.

    The historical posture of the United States has been one of restricted immigration, and not of open borders.

    ‘The southern colonies attracted the younger sons of aristocratic families, doctors, lawyers and others from whom large estates provided both a livelihood and social distinction….’

    Who cares, goddamn English.

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  232. Paul Kersey Death Wish X

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  233. Monty James says: • Website
    @anonymous
    Please tell us who/what was being bombed, and why.

    The aircraft pictured was flying off the Nimitz, which was commissioned in May 1975.

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  234. @joef
    Nevertheless, I do not believe he is malicious, just very misinformed, from a lack of empirical experience in this subject matter. He overly relies on statistical analysis, which he should know better, since conclusions obtained from stats are usually based on what is focused on. Thus, it can distort the picture of showing only what you want to show about a particular subject. However, what he does not understand is believing in a particular set of statistical analysis does not protect you from real misfortune in the afro ghetto mean streets. Only two things can: either you avoid it, or you make yourself a hard target that ghetto afros are unwilling to attack (you certainly cannot depend on their mercy because none will be given). He does not understand that we do not choose to feel this way about afros; instead these are simply the times we live in, and we must react to it the best we can (anything else would just be self deception).

    Probably not malicious, agreed, but the non sequitor reply he made to my observation that the old Roger Corman films were once called “blaxploitation films” just deserved no response at all. Studious ignorance is the term that comes to mind.

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    Studious ignorance is an apt phrase, for he can be very obstinate in his applying of inaccurate book learning to reality. Instead of using book learning as a supplement to personal observation, in his case he uses it as a replacement for said observations. Academic books are suppose to reflect reality, not the other way around (and if they poorly reflect an accurate description of reality, those books should be discarded as useless). Ignoring reality is a poor survival mechanism, and to do so ( just because an academic demands it) would be foolhardy.

    In the end this is why we can never correct this problem, because there are many whites who rather feel good over acknowledging the truth, and arrogantly try to convince the rest of us that we didn't actually experience what we experienced. Thus, there will never be agreed upon solutions necessary to correct afro american dysfunctions, and the decay will just continue unabated until the end.

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  235. Truth says:
    @Talha
    Hey Doc Krieger,

    For the record, the Arabs (and Turks) rarely did the castration, but definitely imported them like that. I get what you are saying, but the problem in Western-style slavery was in its nature. They wanted a sub-class of segregated human labor that one could grow - why buy slaves and import them all the way from Africa when one could breed them? And what kind of slaves did one want for heavy manual labor? Tough, healthy...mostly physical qualities.

    The Arabs (and Turks) used African slaves for totally different purposes (well, definitely after the Zanj Rebellion). They were more used as household labor, harem guards, government administrators (one of the reasons for eunuchs was that a eunuch governor would not go rogue since he had no progeny to pass on his domain to), soldiers...and of course concubines.

    Furthermore, the segregation along racial lines simply was not present - for instance, the fabulously wealthy king of Mali would import Turkish slaves. There were no separate facilities or schools, etc. for Black slaves - the break was more along slave-versus-free lines. So over time Blacks and their progeny were simply absorbed into the society at large.

    All of this is outlined in one of the best books written on the subject:
    https://www.amazon.com/Islams-Black-Slaves-Other-Diaspora/dp/0374527970

    This is a review of the book and summarizes the difference in Western slavery and that in the Muslim world:
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/03/04/reviews/010304.04hochsct.html

    Blacks would be clamoring to return in a years tops (depending on the break).
     
    Some would, sure. But I think they could pull themselves together if there was no option but to sink or swim. Would it be as grand as what they separated from? Likely not, but at least they would be capable of plotting out their own destinies as best they could.

    Peace.

    soldiers…and of course concubines.

    Female concubines, and male.

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    Some of the Turks did swing that way, but they usually did not use Black slaves for that. That might have happened with some European slaves though.

    Arabs would have Black concubines more often than the Turks - and some very royal and honored families (including the Syeds and Sharifs) actually would have issues from Black concubines and this was not seen as abnormal.

    The Turks were more into European concubines.

    I’m not sure if European slaves (concubines included) ever made it down to the African empires like those of Mali and Songhai in significant numbers. They certainly had the contacts in North Africa and the gold to procure them if they wanted.

    Peace.

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  236. Truth says:
    @Father O'Hara
    I can't wait. Just hope the audience in the theatre doesn't decide to Wakanda my ass!
    Get dat cracka! Das da mufugga stole Wakanda! Cave beast!

    I think that would be an excellent way to die, Sport; you would be sacrificing your life to prove the unzistian axiom that the mass media doesn’t cover black on white murder.

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  237. Truth says:
    @daniel le mouche
    I suggest you go into deepest Brooklyn, Bronx or North Philly for opening night, place yourself right in the middle of the theater, and see how you feel, how the youfs treat you. Let me know if you plan to, and I'll pray for your soul.

    LMFAO!

    All because he has no problem with a movie that he has no interest in seeing, being made, in a free country?

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    Can you even conceive of for one second abandoning your habitual 'black is great' schtick? Shouldn't someone with your handle aspire to some, well, truth?
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  238. bomag says:
    @Truth

    Ag subsidies are a problematic comparison here. We want more food; we want cheaper food; we want more farmers on the land; so we offer some subsidies toward that end.
     
    So you inherit some land from your father, and can't find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products.

    I used Ag subsidies as an example of where MOST welfare money goes; upper-middle class whites.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-26/those-pointless-upper-middle-class-entitlements

    Specifically, the 40% of American adults with incomes just below the top 10% received more in safety net government transfers (Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps/SNAP, Veterans’ benefits, etc., but excluding Social Security) than the bottom 50% of Americans.
     
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/05/01/absurd-amount-entitlements-go-rich-people

    So there you go, William Jennings Bryan, you've learned something you were unaware of. Now the question is, do your opinions change as well?

    You’re trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.

    Per household use of Medicare and SS is higher in upper income households because they paid in more and live longer, in general. It is the nature of the programs.

    So you inherit some land from your father, and can’t find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?

    I’m not a fan of the farm program, but the dirty little secret is that farming is so competitive that subsidies quickly get rolled into rents and capital expenditures. Thus the farm program helps landlords and John Deere. Plus, there is a local service agency covering every county in the country; beautiful way to make it politically untouchable. Last I checked, what commodity farmers actually cashed each year from Uncle was around six billion dollars; this is in a 500 billion dollar industry. And many farmers, such as livestock; fruit and vegetable; receive no direct subsidy (though there was some programs for them in the 2013 bill).

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products

    Valuing someone purely for their consumption doesn’t look like a good long term plan.

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    You’re trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.
     
    It's not productive if it has to be subsidized, is it Bernie Sanders?
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  239. Talha says:
    @Truth

    soldiers…and of course concubines.
     
    Female concubines, and male.

    Some of the Turks did swing that way, but they usually did not use Black slaves for that. That might have happened with some European slaves though.

    Arabs would have Black concubines more often than the Turks – and some very royal and honored families (including the Syeds and Sharifs) actually would have issues from Black concubines and this was not seen as abnormal.

    The Turks were more into European concubines.

    I’m not sure if European slaves (concubines included) ever made it down to the African empires like those of Mali and Songhai in significant numbers. They certainly had the contacts in North Africa and the gold to procure them if they wanted.

    Peace.

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  240. @EliteCommInc.
    I am going to half to beg off the crime and color schemas. Crime is generally more intense in low income crowded communities. As black inherited or were relegated to such communities they also inherited that same legacy of groups prior --Irish, Jews, Italians, etc. History suggests that this phenomenon is not color locked. Further exacerbating the problem is that police spent years not policing in these neighborhoods. The would freezer -- calls, place responding to them as low priority and the last in line. Often communities were left to their own devices, essentially leaving criminals as power brokers. There;s nothing unique to color -- -- suffice it to say, anyone engaged in criminal activity makes life tough and it should be dealt with accordingly. Because even if every single murder was committed by a black person --

    the percentage of the black population responsible for 18,000 murders would be
    0.000039130434782608%. Not even a half percent of blacks commit murder. Let's take a larger number, if I wanted to attribute all assaults roughly 1,250,000 in the US to a single population the percentage of blacks involved would be about 3%. Nothing to sneeze at, but that is sill a small segment of people to attribute a behavior to. It's a very tough sell. If had a conniption fit over three bad apples thereby condemning the other seven percent, you might consider me unreasoned, in this case the demand is that I ignore the lives of 45,000,000 million people -- in which case you call me off my rocker. Note: in neither of the accounting above have I broken down the actual color distribution of criminal acts. I just granted that every single one be attributed to a black person -- which as you know is incorrect. However, that kind of irrational thinking explains why blacks were either denied employment, choice of living environment and white flight.

    I clearly understand the proportional contentions. , but I am more inclined to attribute socio-environments as opposed to skin color. And I cannot in good conscience dismiss discrimination, just because it one those actual inconvenient artifacts used to manage an entire population based on skin color. And I agree poverty, disenfranchisement, segregation, etc. is not excuse for criminal
    behavior.

    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960's. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities' charities. There are two tell tale cases

    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans -- and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin's New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication -- that doesn't spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    There was a time when I looked at the numbers and came to this or that conclusions. But numbers have a context and frame - they are not in and of themselves always explanatory.

    It would be nice to get rid of welfare, but here the numbers are overwhelmingly white both pre-1960 and afterwards. Once I learned that constructs such as redlining, segregation, short changed equity were widespread i could no longer simply --"blame black laziness or corruption". There is that, nut it is not endemic to blacks and slave life and the life upon the end of slavery suggest otherwise.

    There are some real downsides to welfare for African american blacks, they should shun all its trappings, but what it sows is irrespective of color.

    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases
    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus. And you are no flaming liberal as your criticism of the welfare system attests. You are correct on several points and it should also be noted that in our current welfare system, whites, who are much richer than blacks and earn substantially more income on average, get HIGHER welfare payments in states where whites are the majority, than areas where blacks are the majority, as several studies show. DATA:

    “The percentage of African-American population had a negative effect on the average monthly grant. Therefore those states with higher African-American populations, especially the South, had lower monthly grant amounts.. Grant amounts for African- Americans in the South were significantly lower that those for whites, ranging from 7.3 percent less in Washington. D.C. to 37.6 percent less in South Carolina.”
    –Deborah Ward. 2009. The White Welfare State, p 77. 121

    and

    “To determine if the negative association between single-mother families and AFDC generosity is dependent on race, I incorporate the percentage of the population that is black into the model.. Doing so significantly improves our models in 1980 and 1990, as states with relatively large black populations have less generous AFDC payments… states with a larger percentage of black single-mother families have less generous welfare spending, while states with a larger proportion of white single-mother families offer more generous welfare spending.. These findings suggest that black and white families are granted uneven support by AFDC, or more specifically that the racial component of single parents in a state influences that state’s generosity.”
    -Marlese Durr and Shirley Hill (2006) Race, Work, and Family in the Lives of African Americans. 125-129

    In short, contrary to the bogus propaganda that so often prevails, whites are feeding quite profitably and disproportionately off the welfare rolls. They are not “giving away” anything to blacks, unless they themselves are first in line to benefit. It was so in the past (as you indicate) and so it is now. When Social Security first came in for example, white legislators from the south lobbied successfully for it to exclude domestic workers and agricultural workers, both at the time disproportionately black. They did not want black people to get a piece of the action despite much pious talk about “fairness” and “merit.”

    So called “giveaways” are laughable propaganda. Whites also gained another bonus. Since black life expectancy was significantly shorter than that of whites, even when blacks eventually became covered by Social Security, their earlier deaths would mean they paid more into the system that they would get out before they died- with the extra benefits going to longer-lived white recipients. Amity points this out in her book- The Greedy Hand. Sweet! White people never “give away” anything unless they are the primary beneficiaries.

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    'bout covers it.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    "White people never "give away" anything unless they are the prime beneficiaries"

    I can vividly recall, late seventies, while at Detroit Metro standing in line with my ( white mother) and a student kid, Latino, maybe nineteen, was eighty bucks short for his ticket back to the west coast so she pays it for him and he asks her for her address so he can send it back to her, and she says no thanks, and have a safe trip..

    And then while on a US army base in Germany I am in a rec room talking to the manager about setting up a blues/funk gig at the base soldiers club, and they carry a comatose black guy in and lay him on a pool table, apparently with a burst appendix, which occured on the baseball field.
    So they call the army hospital for an ambulance and are told it will take at least thirty to forty minutes for it to arrive, so I tell them put him in my car, and I proceed, flashers going, to race him in my Alfa Romeo GT to the army hosp, a good thirty KMs distance, and they are waiting for me at the emergency ramp and to this day this black, probably, ex GI has no clue as to who the white musician was, who probably saved his life on that day back in ninteen seventy five.

    You are rabid with hatred and bullshit and you simply turn my stomach, although I realize that the world is full of malicious, ignorant, stupid cretins , such as yourself.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    , @bomag

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus.
     
    LOL

    Thanks for noticing all the racial animus. Nice to have a pro in the house.

    Now we have to listen about welfare injustice from the 1930s. No wonder Islam banned the printing press: they realized they'd all be catatonic from the historical injustices piled up and thrust in each other's faces.

    I'll grant a good point is SS and life expectancy. Several times I've made the point that modern genetics can start to pinpoint those who likely won't enjoy the benefits, and we could improve the program by allowing those the option of enjoying the money now. It's a bridge too far at the moment.
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  241. joef says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Probably not malicious, agreed, but the non sequitor reply he made to my observation that the old Roger Corman films were once called "blaxploitation films" just deserved no response at all. Studious ignorance is the term that comes to mind.

    Studious ignorance is an apt phrase, for he can be very obstinate in his applying of inaccurate book learning to reality. Instead of using book learning as a supplement to personal observation, in his case he uses it as a replacement for said observations. Academic books are suppose to reflect reality, not the other way around (and if they poorly reflect an accurate description of reality, those books should be discarded as useless). Ignoring reality is a poor survival mechanism, and to do so ( just because an academic demands it) would be foolhardy.

    In the end this is why we can never correct this problem, because there are many whites who rather feel good over acknowledging the truth, and arrogantly try to convince the rest of us that we didn’t actually experience what we experienced. Thus, there will never be agreed upon solutions necessary to correct afro american dysfunctions, and the decay will just continue unabated until the end.

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  242. Truth says:
    @bomag
    You're trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.

    Per household use of Medicare and SS is higher in upper income households because they paid in more and live longer, in general. It is the nature of the programs.


    So you inherit some land from your father, and can’t find a way to operate a successful business, and this is the responsibility of the taxpayer?
     
    I'm not a fan of the farm program, but the dirty little secret is that farming is so competitive that subsidies quickly get rolled into rents and capital expenditures. Thus the farm program helps landlords and John Deere. Plus, there is a local service agency covering every county in the country; beautiful way to make it politically untouchable. Last I checked, what commodity farmers actually cashed each year from Uncle was around six billion dollars; this is in a 500 billion dollar industry. And many farmers, such as livestock; fruit and vegetable; receive no direct subsidy (though there was some programs for them in the 2013 bill).

    And we do want low-income people, as opposed to no-income people, because low income people still have to patronize the Michelle Bachmans of the world for their products
     
    Valuing someone purely for their consumption doesn't look like a good long term plan.

    You’re trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.

    It’s not productive if it has to be subsidized, is it Bernie Sanders?

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    It’s not productive if it has to be subsidized
     
    We subsidize productive industries as a way to spread the wealth and for future development: airline routes, mail service, R&D, solar power et al.

    Maybe Elon Musk is scamming us; maybe we are buying the future through him. It's a different game than just filling EBT cards.
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  243. Truth says:
    @EnriiqueCardovaa
    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases
    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus. And you are no flaming liberal as your criticism of the welfare system attests. You are correct on several points and it should also be noted that in our current welfare system, whites, who are much richer than blacks and earn substantially more income on average, get HIGHER welfare payments in states where whites are the majority, than areas where blacks are the majority, as several studies show. DATA:


    "The percentage of African-American population had a negative effect on the average monthly grant. Therefore those states with higher African-American populations, especially the South, had lower monthly grant amounts.. Grant amounts for African- Americans in the South were significantly lower that those for whites, ranging from 7.3 percent less in Washington. D.C. to 37.6 percent less in South Carolina."
    --Deborah Ward. 2009. The White Welfare State, p 77. 121
     
    and

    "To determine if the negative association between single-mother families and AFDC generosity is dependent on race, I incorporate the percentage of the population that is black into the model.. Doing so significantly improves our models in 1980 and 1990, as states with relatively large black populations have less generous AFDC payments... states with a larger percentage of black single-mother families have less generous welfare spending, while states with a larger proportion of white single-mother families offer more generous welfare spending.. These findings suggest that black and white families are granted uneven support by AFDC, or more specifically that the racial component of single parents in a state influences that state's generosity."
    -Marlese Durr and Shirley Hill (2006) Race, Work, and Family in the Lives of African Americans. 125-129
     
    In short, contrary to the bogus propaganda that so often prevails, whites are feeding quite profitably and disproportionately off the welfare rolls. They are not "giving away" anything to blacks, unless they themselves are first in line to benefit. It was so in the past (as you indicate) and so it is now. When Social Security first came in for example, white legislators from the south lobbied successfully for it to exclude domestic workers and agricultural workers, both at the time disproportionately black. They did not want black people to get a piece of the action despite much pious talk about "fairness" and "merit."

    So called "giveaways" are laughable propaganda. Whites also gained another bonus. Since black life expectancy was significantly shorter than that of whites, even when blacks eventually became covered by Social Security, their earlier deaths would mean they paid more into the system that they would get out before they died- with the extra benefits going to longer-lived white recipients. Amity points this out in her book- The Greedy Hand. Sweet! White people never "give away" anything unless they are the primary beneficiaries.

    ’bout covers it.

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  244. @EnriiqueCardovaa
    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases
    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus. And you are no flaming liberal as your criticism of the welfare system attests. You are correct on several points and it should also be noted that in our current welfare system, whites, who are much richer than blacks and earn substantially more income on average, get HIGHER welfare payments in states where whites are the majority, than areas where blacks are the majority, as several studies show. DATA:


    "The percentage of African-American population had a negative effect on the average monthly grant. Therefore those states with higher African-American populations, especially the South, had lower monthly grant amounts.. Grant amounts for African- Americans in the South were significantly lower that those for whites, ranging from 7.3 percent less in Washington. D.C. to 37.6 percent less in South Carolina."
    --Deborah Ward. 2009. The White Welfare State, p 77. 121
     
    and

    "To determine if the negative association between single-mother families and AFDC generosity is dependent on race, I incorporate the percentage of the population that is black into the model.. Doing so significantly improves our models in 1980 and 1990, as states with relatively large black populations have less generous AFDC payments... states with a larger percentage of black single-mother families have less generous welfare spending, while states with a larger proportion of white single-mother families offer more generous welfare spending.. These findings suggest that black and white families are granted uneven support by AFDC, or more specifically that the racial component of single parents in a state influences that state's generosity."
    -Marlese Durr and Shirley Hill (2006) Race, Work, and Family in the Lives of African Americans. 125-129
     
    In short, contrary to the bogus propaganda that so often prevails, whites are feeding quite profitably and disproportionately off the welfare rolls. They are not "giving away" anything to blacks, unless they themselves are first in line to benefit. It was so in the past (as you indicate) and so it is now. When Social Security first came in for example, white legislators from the south lobbied successfully for it to exclude domestic workers and agricultural workers, both at the time disproportionately black. They did not want black people to get a piece of the action despite much pious talk about "fairness" and "merit."

    So called "giveaways" are laughable propaganda. Whites also gained another bonus. Since black life expectancy was significantly shorter than that of whites, even when blacks eventually became covered by Social Security, their earlier deaths would mean they paid more into the system that they would get out before they died- with the extra benefits going to longer-lived white recipients. Amity points this out in her book- The Greedy Hand. Sweet! White people never "give away" anything unless they are the primary beneficiaries.

    “White people never “give away” anything unless they are the prime beneficiaries”

    I can vividly recall, late seventies, while at Detroit Metro standing in line with my ( white mother) and a student kid, Latino, maybe nineteen, was eighty bucks short for his ticket back to the west coast so she pays it for him and he asks her for her address so he can send it back to her, and she says no thanks, and have a safe trip..

    And then while on a US army base in Germany I am in a rec room talking to the manager about setting up a blues/funk gig at the base soldiers club, and they carry a comatose black guy in and lay him on a pool table, apparently with a burst appendix, which occured on the baseball field.
    So they call the army hospital for an ambulance and are told it will take at least thirty to forty minutes for it to arrive, so I tell them put him in my car, and I proceed, flashers going, to race him in my Alfa Romeo GT to the army hosp, a good thirty KMs distance, and they are waiting for me at the emergency ramp and to this day this black, probably, ex GI has no clue as to who the white musician was, who probably saved his life on that day back in ninteen seventy five.

    You are rabid with hatred and bullshit and you simply turn my stomach, although I realize that the world is full of malicious, ignorant, stupid cretins , such as yourself.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

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    It is good, if as you claim, that you helped save the life of the black soldier. A touching take indeed if true.. But that does not change the fact that both conservative military veterans, and conservative PRO US historians hold that the US effort in Vietnam, ended in defeat. In your appalling ignorance you do not seem able to grasp this basic fact, though you tout "mensa qualifications."
    , @EnriiqueCardovaa
    And by primary beneficiaries I clearly mean collective action as expressed in social policy towards blacks, etc, not individual. But if indeed you did such on an individual basis - commendable.
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    LMFAO!

    All because he has no problem with a movie that he has no interest in seeing, being made, in a free country?

    Can you even conceive of for one second abandoning your habitual ‘black is great’ schtick? Shouldn’t someone with your handle aspire to some, well, truth?

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    LOL, dude, when did I say black was great? No, I just say, "it ain't terrible" and on this thread I am just sticking up for a fellow libertarian. The guy has no problem with a movie studio doing what they see fit with their resources. What is your argument with that?
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  246. Truth says:
    @daniel le mouche
    Can you even conceive of for one second abandoning your habitual 'black is great' schtick? Shouldn't someone with your handle aspire to some, well, truth?

    LOL, dude, when did I say black was great? No, I just say, “it ain’t terrible” and on this thread I am just sticking up for a fellow libertarian. The guy has no problem with a movie studio doing what they see fit with their resources. What is your argument with that?

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    You just say 'it ain't terrible'--but it is. It's really, really bad, way beyond terrible. And your second pseudo argument is beyond laughable, that the movie studios just do 'what they see fit with their resources'. Hardy har har. It's all just profits, innit? No attempt, however slight, at, say, mass social engineering? Making everyone hate everyone else? Or more to the point, making everyone, including 'white people' (there's no such category that can lump Irish and English, Greek, Spanish and Russian into some happy cohesive group, or certainly not on the English side), hate white people. Witness the Enrique dude that the Jazzman nicely took down above, 'whites NEVER give unless they're the prime recipient'. A movie like this--and to a greater or lesser extent, anything out of hollywood is like this--is all about its political implications; it's a polemic; it has an agenda, and it isn't pretty, and it isn't nice, and it isn't casual, and it isn't funny.
    , @joef
    If you said that people like me only focus on the terrible pertaining to afro americans, well I must admit you have some truth in that. However I cannot agree with the "it ain't terrible" statement" either. The fact that many contemporary afros are in a socially dysfunctional condition (which wasn't always the case), addicted to unaffordable materialism (yeah, so are many whites), irresponsibly breed children without care, most of their neighborhoods are filthy, they murder others (and each other) routinely, and demand evermore welfare from a system that is already awash in unpayable debt, is by any objective criteria terrible.

    Afro american apologist, liberal panderers, and leftist manipulators, want all of us to believe that this poison, afros are ingesting, tastes good. And as afros decay from this good tasting rot, the rest of the nation declines along with you. Does all the nation have to become Detroit before you wake up? Your self destructive excuse making does not change the reality of where all this will eventually end, if this continues. There was plenty of confirmation bias excuses before the housing crash too, but it didn't change the results. You better hope that I am wrong, because if I am correct then "Houston, we have a problem".

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  247. bomag says:
    @EnriiqueCardovaa
    There is a book by Dr. Amity Shlaes, I think she is the author, in which she covers the history of welfare. by and large blacks are not in the picture until the 1960′s. It appears that up until that time black charity was handled by black communities, sometimes those established s far back as the Civil War and largely the work of churches and private donors. So despite being bared from economic opportunity among the dominant population. Blacks by their skills, talents and means created their own businesses as well as provided for their communities’ charities. There are two tell tale cases
    1. the denial of black farmers to get farm loans — and farming in this country has a history of leaning in such loans to start and maintain their as well as grow their businesses.
    2. depression era grants, loans and other economic opportunities. Blacks in nearly every community were cut out that distribution cycle. So Pres. Franklin’s New Deal, was a deal for primarily for whites. If the ethos around this huge government programs is any indication — that doesn’t spell well for the idea that blacks have a legacy of government welfare. They were last or nonexistent on the government check lists.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus. And you are no flaming liberal as your criticism of the welfare system attests. You are correct on several points and it should also be noted that in our current welfare system, whites, who are much richer than blacks and earn substantially more income on average, get HIGHER welfare payments in states where whites are the majority, than areas where blacks are the majority, as several studies show. DATA:


    "The percentage of African-American population had a negative effect on the average monthly grant. Therefore those states with higher African-American populations, especially the South, had lower monthly grant amounts.. Grant amounts for African- Americans in the South were significantly lower that those for whites, ranging from 7.3 percent less in Washington. D.C. to 37.6 percent less in South Carolina."
    --Deborah Ward. 2009. The White Welfare State, p 77. 121
     
    and

    "To determine if the negative association between single-mother families and AFDC generosity is dependent on race, I incorporate the percentage of the population that is black into the model.. Doing so significantly improves our models in 1980 and 1990, as states with relatively large black populations have less generous AFDC payments... states with a larger percentage of black single-mother families have less generous welfare spending, while states with a larger proportion of white single-mother families offer more generous welfare spending.. These findings suggest that black and white families are granted uneven support by AFDC, or more specifically that the racial component of single parents in a state influences that state's generosity."
    -Marlese Durr and Shirley Hill (2006) Race, Work, and Family in the Lives of African Americans. 125-129
     
    In short, contrary to the bogus propaganda that so often prevails, whites are feeding quite profitably and disproportionately off the welfare rolls. They are not "giving away" anything to blacks, unless they themselves are first in line to benefit. It was so in the past (as you indicate) and so it is now. When Social Security first came in for example, white legislators from the south lobbied successfully for it to exclude domestic workers and agricultural workers, both at the time disproportionately black. They did not want black people to get a piece of the action despite much pious talk about "fairness" and "merit."

    So called "giveaways" are laughable propaganda. Whites also gained another bonus. Since black life expectancy was significantly shorter than that of whites, even when blacks eventually became covered by Social Security, their earlier deaths would mean they paid more into the system that they would get out before they died- with the extra benefits going to longer-lived white recipients. Amity points this out in her book- The Greedy Hand. Sweet! White people never "give away" anything unless they are the primary beneficiaries.

    Good analysis- much more fair-minded and perceptive than the swarms of distorters and propagandists fueled by racial animus.

    LOL

    Thanks for noticing all the racial animus. Nice to have a pro in the house.

    Now we have to listen about welfare injustice from the 1930s. No wonder Islam banned the printing press: they realized they’d all be catatonic from the historical injustices piled up and thrust in each other’s faces.

    I’ll grant a good point is SS and life expectancy. Several times I’ve made the point that modern genetics can start to pinpoint those who likely won’t enjoy the benefits, and we could improve the program by allowing those the option of enjoying the money now. It’s a bridge too far at the moment.

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  248. bomag says:
    @Truth

    You’re trolling. Tax cuts and subsidies to productive industries are different from transfer payments for current consumption.
     
    It's not productive if it has to be subsidized, is it Bernie Sanders?

    It’s not productive if it has to be subsidized

    We subsidize productive industries as a way to spread the wealth and for future development: airline routes, mail service, R&D, solar power et al.

    Maybe Elon Musk is scamming us; maybe we are buying the future through him. It’s a different game than just filling EBT cards.

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    Small independent farmers couldn't set their own prices, which is why it was such an unprofitable business for decades.

    But the farmers were productive. They produced food.
    , @EnriiqueCardovaa
    Good point. Subsidies can go to the productive, or potentially productive, and have occurred several times over the years. The railroads were subsidized by cheap or free land grants, facilitation of import of cheap immigrant labor, and sometimes cold cash to the tune of $16,000 to $48,000 per mile, depending on the difficulty of construction, and they did pretty well in helping America industrialize early on. But sometimes it tough to get even this basic level of analysis or fact amid the animus and simplistic propaganda.
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  249. Nathan says:

    It’s not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn’t an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.

    What you are witnessing here is the complete capture of the African American psychology. If they wanted true representation, they would forfeit all the choices presented to them – starring in movies, voting, presidencies, university access, business access – all of it. If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.

    They can’t seem to comprehend that hate and love are the same thing: it’s all just attention and action in the required direction. When you hate someone else’s rules, you are implicitly subjugating yourself to those rules. When you spend your energy on the thing you despise, that thing wins. The only – repeat – ONLY dangerous move is to ignore the system. So let them make movies. Let them vote. Let them work in business. Because movies, democracy and corporations are white, western ideas. These people are being turned into consumer/producer batteries without even realising it.

    And to top it off, they honestly think it’s an act of revolution?!?

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    If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.
     
    Interesting post.

    "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

    But, alas, a more accurate analogy is that we are careening down a winding and ever more treacherous mountain road; the driver struggling more and more to keep things on the road. Meanwhile, one of the passengers is loudly proclaiming that they should be driving; not only should they be driving, but they really invented the automobile; in fact, this auto was really stolen from them. They own the thing! Not only are they good enough to drive, they are just as good. Nay, better; way better, ten times better, biatches! It's pointed out that every. single. time. they have been allowed to drive in the past, the car quickly careens off a two thousand foot cliff and crashes on the rocks below. They respond with the litany that nobody is perfect; we have all sinned and fallen short of the grace of the driving gods; the current driver has made plenty of near fatal mistakes; all mistakes are equal; we are all equal, and any suggestion otherwise is the worst mistake of all; we're all under the same dictatorship; everyone is on welfare.

    Thus the driver reluctantly starts sliding over and releasing the wheel to an eagerly grasping set of hands, while the passengers blissfully sing:

    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
    O Lord, kum bay ya.
    , @Truth

    It’s not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn’t an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.
     
    Well now, YOU didn't come up with these ideas either, did you Sport? But you do utilize and live by them, don't you Sport?

    Extrapolating this a bit wider, unless you are, by familial origin, a Central-Asian Khazar, no one who actually resembles you had much to do with these concepts either, now isn't that correct?
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  250. @Father O'Hara
    I can't wait. Just hope the audience in the theatre doesn't decide to Wakanda my ass!
    Get dat cracka! Das da mufugga stole Wakanda! Cave beast!

    I be like: Run, mane. Dey finna wakanda yo ass up in here.

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  251. @daniel le mouche
    'Significantly, MCU’s treatment of “Thor,” the hero based on the Northern European god, featured a multicultural Asgard with black Nordic deities. '

    Incredible, and all whites do, or can do, is sit there stupified, disbelieving, stewing in their juices (that is, if they have any capacity for depth of character, a more and more rare thing). I saw last year a production of the Odyssey with a half-black cast. Blacks included Telemachus (Odysseus's son), Penelope (O's wife) and Zeus--fortunately, I felt, (thanks for the scrap there) not Odysseus himself. Are you f---ing kidding me? Ancient Greece?? No, they're not. But at the Q and A with some of the actors and director afterwards, nobody but nobody even seemed to notice. I too lost courage--can't be called a hateful, unenlightened racist white m'f---er. I wonder truly if anyone of the crowd of 'nice people', those ones that read the Guardian and are just genuinely unaware of race, not noticed, but were bothered by this. My guess is no.

    ” I wonder truly if anyone of the crowd of ‘nice people’, those ones that read the Guardian and are just genuinely unaware of race, not noticed, but were bothered by this.”

    I’d guess that people who seemed to be unbothered by the casting were pretending not to notice the race of the characters. That’s what is meant by being colorblind, at least to their minds.

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  252. @Truth
    LOL, dude, when did I say black was great? No, I just say, "it ain't terrible" and on this thread I am just sticking up for a fellow libertarian. The guy has no problem with a movie studio doing what they see fit with their resources. What is your argument with that?

    You just say ‘it ain’t terrible’–but it is. It’s really, really bad, way beyond terrible. And your second pseudo argument is beyond laughable, that the movie studios just do ‘what they see fit with their resources’. Hardy har har. It’s all just profits, innit? No attempt, however slight, at, say, mass social engineering? Making everyone hate everyone else? Or more to the point, making everyone, including ‘white people’ (there’s no such category that can lump Irish and English, Greek, Spanish and Russian into some happy cohesive group, or certainly not on the English side), hate white people. Witness the Enrique dude that the Jazzman nicely took down above, ‘whites NEVER give unless they’re the prime recipient’. A movie like this–and to a greater or lesser extent, anything out of hollywood is like this–is all about its political implications; it’s a polemic; it has an agenda, and it isn’t pretty, and it isn’t nice, and it isn’t casual, and it isn’t funny.

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  253. There seems two be lines of thought here.Blacks as super heroes is fantasy and worse intended to be signifiers of black revolution —

    and blacks wren’t smart enough to come up with the idea of super heroes.

    To dumb to create them and dumb for creating them
    whites did it first.

    Look human beings the world over have embraced creations of their fellows with superhuman strength.

    I find it hard to conceive this common practice as some kind of white construct, whether its Egyptian gods and warlords, Norse men with golden locks or Asian conquerors roaming the steps.

    http://listverse.com/2013/07/18/ten-african-myths-and-legends-2/

    The more we come to grips with african history, I am confident the more we will become a customed to their legends of women man gods

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  254. joef says:
    @Truth
    LOL, dude, when did I say black was great? No, I just say, "it ain't terrible" and on this thread I am just sticking up for a fellow libertarian. The guy has no problem with a movie studio doing what they see fit with their resources. What is your argument with that?

    If you said that people like me only focus on the terrible pertaining to afro americans, well I must admit you have some truth in that. However I cannot agree with the “it ain’t terrible” statement” either. The fact that many contemporary afros are in a socially dysfunctional condition (which wasn’t always the case), addicted to unaffordable materialism (yeah, so are many whites), irresponsibly breed children without care, most of their neighborhoods are filthy, they murder others (and each other) routinely, and demand evermore welfare from a system that is already awash in unpayable debt, is by any objective criteria terrible.

    Afro american apologist, liberal panderers, and leftist manipulators, want all of us to believe that this poison, afros are ingesting, tastes good. And as afros decay from this good tasting rot, the rest of the nation declines along with you. Does all the nation have to become Detroit before you wake up? Your self destructive excuse making does not change the reality of where all this will eventually end, if this continues. There was plenty of confirmation bias excuses before the housing crash too, but it didn’t change the results. You better hope that I am wrong, because if I am correct then “Houston, we have a problem”.

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  255. bomag says:
    @Nathan
    It's not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn't an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.

    What you are witnessing here is the complete capture of the African American psychology. If they wanted true representation, they would forfeit all the choices presented to them - starring in movies, voting, presidencies, university access, business access - all of it. If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.

    They can't seem to comprehend that hate and love are the same thing: it's all just attention and action in the required direction. When you hate someone else's rules, you are implicitly subjugating yourself to those rules. When you spend your energy on the thing you despise, that thing wins. The only - repeat - ONLY dangerous move is to ignore the system. So let them make movies. Let them vote. Let them work in business. Because movies, democracy and corporations are white, western ideas. These people are being turned into consumer/producer batteries without even realising it.

    And to top it off, they honestly think it's an act of revolution?!?

    If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.

    Interesting post.

    “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.”

    But, alas, a more accurate analogy is that we are careening down a winding and ever more treacherous mountain road; the driver struggling more and more to keep things on the road. Meanwhile, one of the passengers is loudly proclaiming that they should be driving; not only should they be driving, but they really invented the automobile; in fact, this auto was really stolen from them. They own the thing! Not only are they good enough to drive, they are just as good. Nay, better; way better, ten times better, biatches! It’s pointed out that every. single. time. they have been allowed to drive in the past, the car quickly careens off a two thousand foot cliff and crashes on the rocks below. They respond with the litany that nobody is perfect; we have all sinned and fallen short of the grace of the driving gods; the current driver has made plenty of near fatal mistakes; all mistakes are equal; we are all equal, and any suggestion otherwise is the worst mistake of all; we’re all under the same dictatorship; everyone is on welfare.

    Thus the driver reluctantly starts sliding over and releasing the wheel to an eagerly grasping set of hands, while the passengers blissfully sing:

    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
    O Lord, kum bay ya.

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    Man, you guys really do live in a fantasy world. Of course your slavemasters have invested untold money, time and resources, and have enlisted the help of the Big Chief of All Things Dark in creating one for you, so this is understandable. Still, I feel sorry for you. The upcoming decade is not going to work out well.
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  256. Truth says:
    @bomag

    If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.
     
    Interesting post.

    "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

    But, alas, a more accurate analogy is that we are careening down a winding and ever more treacherous mountain road; the driver struggling more and more to keep things on the road. Meanwhile, one of the passengers is loudly proclaiming that they should be driving; not only should they be driving, but they really invented the automobile; in fact, this auto was really stolen from them. They own the thing! Not only are they good enough to drive, they are just as good. Nay, better; way better, ten times better, biatches! It's pointed out that every. single. time. they have been allowed to drive in the past, the car quickly careens off a two thousand foot cliff and crashes on the rocks below. They respond with the litany that nobody is perfect; we have all sinned and fallen short of the grace of the driving gods; the current driver has made plenty of near fatal mistakes; all mistakes are equal; we are all equal, and any suggestion otherwise is the worst mistake of all; we're all under the same dictatorship; everyone is on welfare.

    Thus the driver reluctantly starts sliding over and releasing the wheel to an eagerly grasping set of hands, while the passengers blissfully sing:

    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
    Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
    O Lord, kum bay ya.

    Man, you guys really do live in a fantasy world. Of course your slavemasters have invested untold money, time and resources, and have enlisted the help of the Big Chief of All Things Dark in creating one for you, so this is understandable. Still, I feel sorry for you. The upcoming decade is not going to work out well.

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  257. Pfff says:

    “if white people didn’t destroy it”

    Fucking pathetic Antichristian marxists and their shameless to the death lazy ass baseless blame shifting. It is beyond human comprehension.

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  258. Pff says:

    ““if white people didn’t destroy it””
    Can someone confirm if the propaganda of this film promotes this belief system? If so I won’t waste my time going to watch it since I would walk out the moment I see black racist whitey blame bs.

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  259. ‘I would walk out the moment I see black racist whitey blame bs.’

    I think it’s safe to say there will be one big giant f’n assload of that. And lots of mmm hmmm’s from the older black ladies and gay black gents in the audience, and of course lots of random race hate violence out in the streets afterwards. Gotta keep those fires stoked…

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    Well if you're gonna pay $12, I figure you'd at least stay for a few fight scenes.
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  260. Truth says:
    @Nathan
    It's not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn't an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.

    What you are witnessing here is the complete capture of the African American psychology. If they wanted true representation, they would forfeit all the choices presented to them - starring in movies, voting, presidencies, university access, business access - all of it. If they wanted to win, they would ignore the white, western system.

    They can't seem to comprehend that hate and love are the same thing: it's all just attention and action in the required direction. When you hate someone else's rules, you are implicitly subjugating yourself to those rules. When you spend your energy on the thing you despise, that thing wins. The only - repeat - ONLY dangerous move is to ignore the system. So let them make movies. Let them vote. Let them work in business. Because movies, democracy and corporations are white, western ideas. These people are being turned into consumer/producer batteries without even realising it.

    And to top it off, they honestly think it's an act of revolution?!?

    It’s not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn’t an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport? But you do utilize and live by them, don’t you Sport?

    Extrapolating this a bit wider, unless you are, by familial origin, a Central-Asian Khazar, no one who actually resembles you had much to do with these concepts either, now isn’t that correct?

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    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?
     
    No individual is responsible for civilization, but neither does civilization come from all individuals. There are distinct differences between certain people groups in terms of society and government. I don't think I'm saying anything new here, especially to this crowd.

    But that's not my point. I'm saying that with the introduction of global internet and containerization, the term "globalization" simply means "universal alignment of civilisational defaults." In other words, there might have been different civilizations in the past, but if trends continue that may not be the case in the future. For instance, it's not a Chinese idea to wear suits to business meetings, but they do anyway. And it's not an African idea to live in a nation-state, but they do anyway. It's rare to hear a Chinese or African person question these things. But they're getting the encouragement to do these things from somewhere, they just can't see it.

    I think what you're seeing is a harmonization of all cultures behind the concepts and ideals of a single (Western) culture. Sure, people might retain some of their peripheral cultural traditions people, but the aspirations and default assumptions of all people are being aligned. African Americans have pieces of their own culture, but their core conceptual structure is based on Western ideas.

    This is what empire looks like. The Romans and British did the same thing as the Americans. It's all part of the same long line of the Western dominating tradition. It works in the shadows, the unconscious and on the edges of people's understanding. But look at how many people wear t-shirts, use iPhones, use English, respect science, drive cars, live in nation-states, use democracy, etc, etc.

    Black Panther is the tip of the iceberg, look at everything that's hidden just beneath the surface.
    , @Talha

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?
     
    I think a couple of Jewish guys even came up with the idea of Superman (aka undocumented illegal immigrant).

    Ouch - that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?


    at least stay for a few fight scenes
     
    Especially since it's Black-on-Black violence.

    Peace.

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  261. Truth says:
    @daniel le mouche
    'I would walk out the moment I see black racist whitey blame bs.'

    I think it's safe to say there will be one big giant f'n assload of that. And lots of mmm hmmm's from the older black ladies and gay black gents in the audience, and of course lots of random race hate violence out in the streets afterwards. Gotta keep those fires stoked...

    Well if you’re gonna pay $12, I figure you’d at least stay for a few fight scenes.

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  262. Nathan says:
    @Truth

    It’s not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn’t an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.
     
    Well now, YOU didn't come up with these ideas either, did you Sport? But you do utilize and live by them, don't you Sport?

    Extrapolating this a bit wider, unless you are, by familial origin, a Central-Asian Khazar, no one who actually resembles you had much to do with these concepts either, now isn't that correct?

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?

    No individual is responsible for civilization, but neither does civilization come from all individuals. There are distinct differences between certain people groups in terms of society and government. I don’t think I’m saying anything new here, especially to this crowd.

    But that’s not my point. I’m saying that with the introduction of global internet and containerization, the term “globalization” simply means “universal alignment of civilisational defaults.” In other words, there might have been different civilizations in the past, but if trends continue that may not be the case in the future. For instance, it’s not a Chinese idea to wear suits to business meetings, but they do anyway. And it’s not an African idea to live in a nation-state, but they do anyway. It’s rare to hear a Chinese or African person question these things. But they’re getting the encouragement to do these things from somewhere, they just can’t see it.

    I think what you’re seeing is a harmonization of all cultures behind the concepts and ideals of a single (Western) culture. Sure, people might retain some of their peripheral cultural traditions people, but the aspirations and default assumptions of all people are being aligned. African Americans have pieces of their own culture, but their core conceptual structure is based on Western ideas.

    This is what empire looks like. The Romans and British did the same thing as the Americans. It’s all part of the same long line of the Western dominating tradition. It works in the shadows, the unconscious and on the edges of people’s understanding. But look at how many people wear t-shirts, use iPhones, use English, respect science, drive cars, live in nation-states, use democracy, etc, etc.

    Black Panther is the tip of the iceberg, look at everything that’s hidden just beneath the surface.

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    Good points - I would say definitely that much of the world has defaulted to the Western model on many, many things. Specifically the Anglo-Saxon flavor too.

    Peace.
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  263. Talha says:
    @Truth

    It’s not a double standard. This is actually what western victory looks like. Think about it. The concept of a superhero is not an African idea. The concept of media is not an African idea. The concept of movie theatres isn’t an African idea. The concept of protest is not an African idea. The concept of fiat money is not an African idea. Etc, etc.
     
    Well now, YOU didn't come up with these ideas either, did you Sport? But you do utilize and live by them, don't you Sport?

    Extrapolating this a bit wider, unless you are, by familial origin, a Central-Asian Khazar, no one who actually resembles you had much to do with these concepts either, now isn't that correct?

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?

    I think a couple of Jewish guys even came up with the idea of Superman (aka undocumented illegal immigrant).

    Ouch – that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?

    at least stay for a few fight scenes

    Especially since it’s Black-on-Black violence.

    Peace.

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    Ouch – that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?
     
    Comic books?

    Hell I wonder what the world would look like.
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  264. Talha says:
    @Nathan

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?
     
    No individual is responsible for civilization, but neither does civilization come from all individuals. There are distinct differences between certain people groups in terms of society and government. I don't think I'm saying anything new here, especially to this crowd.

    But that's not my point. I'm saying that with the introduction of global internet and containerization, the term "globalization" simply means "universal alignment of civilisational defaults." In other words, there might have been different civilizations in the past, but if trends continue that may not be the case in the future. For instance, it's not a Chinese idea to wear suits to business meetings, but they do anyway. And it's not an African idea to live in a nation-state, but they do anyway. It's rare to hear a Chinese or African person question these things. But they're getting the encouragement to do these things from somewhere, they just can't see it.

    I think what you're seeing is a harmonization of all cultures behind the concepts and ideals of a single (Western) culture. Sure, people might retain some of their peripheral cultural traditions people, but the aspirations and default assumptions of all people are being aligned. African Americans have pieces of their own culture, but their core conceptual structure is based on Western ideas.

    This is what empire looks like. The Romans and British did the same thing as the Americans. It's all part of the same long line of the Western dominating tradition. It works in the shadows, the unconscious and on the edges of people's understanding. But look at how many people wear t-shirts, use iPhones, use English, respect science, drive cars, live in nation-states, use democracy, etc, etc.

    Black Panther is the tip of the iceberg, look at everything that's hidden just beneath the surface.

    Good points – I would say definitely that much of the world has defaulted to the Western model on many, many things. Specifically the Anglo-Saxon flavor too.

    Peace.

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  265. Truth says:
    @Talha

    Well now, YOU didn’t come up with these ideas either, did you Sport?
     
    I think a couple of Jewish guys even came up with the idea of Superman (aka undocumented illegal immigrant).

    Ouch - that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?


    at least stay for a few fight scenes
     
    Especially since it's Black-on-Black violence.

    Peace.

    Ouch – that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?

    Comic books?

    Hell I wonder what the world would look like.

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    Good point.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Some poster a while back mentioned a cult sci fi book written by a white "goyim",about a man of super strength very much like Superman. No doubt the Jew kids read the book and from it "created" Supie.
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  266. Talha says:
    @Truth

    Ouch – that one hurt. I wonder what comic books would look like if you removed every hero that some Jewish guy came up with?
     
    Comic books?

    Hell I wonder what the world would look like.

    Good point.

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