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The Trump administration’s decision to scrap all future aid payments to the main agency helping Palestinian refugees marks a new – and most likely disastrous – chapter in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The US State Department said on Friday it would no longer continue its $360 million annual contributions to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), depriving it of a third of its budget. US officials described the organisation as “irredeemably flawed”.

The move follows an announcement last week that Washington had slashed $200 million from other aid programmes for the Palestinians.

About five million Palestinians – many languishing for decades in refugee camps across the Middle East – rely on the agency for essential food, healthcare and education.

Other states in the Middle East have reason to be fearful. Jordan’s foreign minster, Ayman Safadi, warned on Saturday that the denial of aid would “only consolidate an environment of despair that would ultimately create fertile grounds for further tension”.

Jordan, which hosts two million Palestinian refugees, has called a meeting at the UN later this month, along with Japan, the European Union, Sweden and Turkey, to “rally political and financial support” for UNRWA.

Traditional American and European backing for the UN agency could be viewed as reparations for their complicity in helping to create a Jewish state on the ruins of the Palestinians’ homeland. That act of dispossession turned the Palestinians into the world’s largest stateless population.

Except there are few signs of guilt.

The handouts provided via the UN have served more like “hush money”, designed to keep the Palestinians dependent and quiet as western states manage a crisis they apparently have no intention of solving.

That was why the European Union hurriedly promised to seek alternative funds for UNRWA. It noted that the agency was “vital for stability and security in the region” – a stability that has enabled Israel to disappear the Palestinians, uninterrupted, for seven decades.

The Trump administration, by contrast, is more brazen about the new way it wishes to weaponise aid.

US officials have not concealed the fact that they want leverage over the Palestinians to force them to submit to Donald Trump’s long-promised “deal of the century” peace plan.

But there is a deeper and darker agenda afoot than simply reviving failed negotiations or pandering to the Trump administration’s well-known antipathy towards international institutions.

Over the past 25 years, peace talks have provided cover for Israel’s incremental takeover of what was supposed to be a future Palestinian state. In the words of Palestinian lawyer Michael Tarazi, while Israel and the Palestinians were discussing how to divide the pizza, Israel ate it all.

So Mr Trump’s team has, in effect, reverse-engineered a “peace process” based on the reality on the ground Israel has created.

If Israel won’t compromise, Mr Trump will settle the final-status issues – borders, Jerusalem and the refugees – in the stronger party’s favour. The only hurdle is finding a way to bully the Palestinians into acceptance.

In an indication of how sychronised Washington and Israel’s approaches now are, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the US ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, made almost identical speeches last week.

In an address to American Jewish leaders, Mr Friedman noted that a “different way of thinking” prevailed in the Middle East. “You can’t talk your way, you just have to be strong,” he said.

The next day, Mr Netanyahu reiterated that message. He tweeted: “The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive.”

That sounded uncomfortably like a prescription for the Palestinians’ future.

Israel has already carved out its borders through the ethnic cleansing campaigns of 1948 and 1967. Since then, it has mobilised the settlers and its military to take over almost all of the remnants of historic Palestine. A few slivers of territory in the West Bank and the tiny coastal ghetto of Gaza are all that is left for the Palestinians.

A nod from the White House and Israel will formalise this arrangement by gradually annexing the West Bank.

As far as Jerusalem is concerned, Mr Trump recognised it as Israel’s capital by moving the US embassy there in May. Now, even if it can be born, a Palestinian state will lack a meaningful capital and a viable economy.

The final loose end are the refugees.

Some time ago, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas surrendered their right – sanctioned in international law – to return to their former lands in what is now Israel.

Instead, the question was whether Israel would allow the refugees encamped in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan to move to the West Bank and Gaza and become citizens of a Palestinian state.

But if Israel refuses to concede a Palestinian state, even that minimal ambition is doomed.

Israel and the US have an alternative solution. They prefer to dismantle UNRWA and disappear the Palestinians in the swelling tide of refugees spawned by recent western interventions in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Aghanistan. On Sunday Mr Netanyahu welcomed what he called a US move to “abolish the refugee institution, to take the funds and really help rehabilitate the refugees”.

The US and Israel want the Palestinian refugees to fall under the responsibility of the UNHCR, the UN’s umbrella refugee agency – or better still, their host countries.

In a leaked email reported by Foreign Policy magazine this month, Jared Kushner, Mr Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, wrote that it was time to “disrupt UNRWA”. He added that “sometimes you have to strategically risk breaking things in order to get there”.

Central to that disruption is stripping millions of Palestinians of their status as refugees. The Trump administration is due to publish a report later this month, according to Israeli media, that will propose capping the Palestinian refugee population at 500,000 – a tenth of the current number.

Mr Kushner has reportedly been leaning on Jordan to revoke the status of its two million Palestinian refugees, presumably in return for US compensation.

When UNRWA’s mandate comes up for renewal in two years’ time, it seems assured Washington will block it.

If there is no UNRWA, there is no Palestinian refugee problem. And if there are no refugees, then there is no need for a right of return – and even less pressure for a Palestinian state.

Israel and the US are close to their goal: transforming a political conflict governed by international law that favours the Palestinians into an economic problem overseen by an array of donors that favours Israel.

 
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  1. they have bitten over to much this time.
    Hezbollah will annihilate the zionist entity in occupied Palestine this time as in 2006, only now Iran, Syria and a few others will be dragged in. This means the entity will use its nuclear weapons with all the consequences that will bring.
    Our only comfort is that at least there will literally be no more zionist entity in Palestine, it is of little comfort tbh but the zionist entity bear all the blame.
    i hope the survivors(if any) in the world will make them pay.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    But that means the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders...

    Talk about blow back...
    , @Frankie P
    An esxerpt from Hassan Nasrallah's most recent speech. Nasrallah is correct, for Hezbollah has God and righteousness on its side, and the Israeli's are wallowing in their guilt, materialism and narcissism:

    "Until a few days ago, as part of the (recent) maneuvers in the north (of occupied Palestine), a senior officer in the Israeli army –this is reported by Israeli newspapers, not myself– said: “Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, because it has this, this, this and that.” Of course, I do not agree with him on this estimate. We do not consider that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, but this statement expresses how the Israeli enemy sees this Resistance he wanted to eradicate during the July 2006 war.
    Today, in 2018, this Resistance is, as I have always said and repeated every year, and allow me to repeat it again today, and the important thing is that the Israeli enemy knows very well that it is the strict, the undeniable truth: yes, the Resistance in Lebanon today, in its arms, its equipment, its capabilities, the number of its fighters, its cadres, its power, its expertise, its experiences, its faith, its determination, its courage and its will is stronger than ever since its launch in this region (in 1982)!
    [Audience: At your service, O Nasrallah!]
    Certainly, Israel can threaten (us with war) every day. Remember, just weeks after the end of the July (2006) war, Israel threatened Lebanon with a vengeful war that was (supposedly) approaching fast. But you can count (the years of peace) with me: where is this war that Israel (continually) threatened us with and for which it asserted itself ready, having supposedly fixed all its shortcomings and faults, promising that it would shortly launch a new war against Lebanon? They threatened us (with war) in 2007, and 2007 has passed (peacefully). (Same thing in) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, etc., until 2018. For 12 years, Israel has threatened us (permanently) to launch a war (imminently). But while they threaten to launch a war (against us), at the same time, they continue to evoke the fact that the Resistance becomes stronger (by the day) and that its (fire)power is increasing, until one of their officers said that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military.
    I want to tell him that we are not the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military, leave this subject aside, because it is not precise, and we do not want to create problems (by competing) with the armies of the region. But let me say to that senior Israeli officer, on (the date of the commemoration of) the July (2006) War, that Hezbollah is stronger than the Israeli army! The Resistance in Lebanon is stronger than the Israeli army!
    For either in 2000 or in 2006, it was never a question of manpower, equipment, quantity, capabilities, weapons or rockets / missiles. Today we have more faith in the righteousness of our cause than you have in your false, usurping cause. Today we are more willing to sacrifice than your miserable army and society, living in worry with many problems and in many files. Today we have more faith and confidence than ever in our God, our Creator and He who granted us victory, ever since God the Almighty and Majestic created us. Today we have more faith, trust and confidence in His Promise of victory addressed to the patients and sincere fighters. This sincerity, this faith and patience, we have them more than ever because of the accumulation of experiences."
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  2. It doesn’t matter much. The PLO is already essentially a collaborationist regime — and regarded as such.

    Curiously, it has even found itself faced with many of the same dilemmas Vichy France was confronted with, and forced down the same path, leading to an increasing loss of legitimacy.

    In the end, the PLO will sign whatever Israel demands, but it won’t matter, because the PLO won’t represent anyone.

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    • Replies: @JoaoAlfaiate
    Interesting comparison....and the Zionist entity equals???
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  3. Biff says:

    Greater Israel in the works. Amazing how so many don’t realize the obvious.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

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    • Replies: @Josecanuc
    Also surprising is how so many don’t realize these even more conspicuous realities:

    “What we on earth call ‘God; is a little Jewish Tribal God - Yahweh - who has made an awful mess.” William S. Burroughs

    “The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.” Havelock Ellis, 1924

    "For, insane as it sounds, it (Orthodox Judaism) is nevertheless plain...on close examination, the real most deep seated ideological motive behind the Zionists persistent hostility towards the Palestinians..." Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion

    “The whole world is mentally sick, much more so, we Jews.” Arthur Ruppin 1876 –1943 Zionist, sociologist, one of the founders of Tel Aviv, taught Sociology of the Jews at Hebrew University, Jerusalem
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  4. renfro says:

    Refugees are the final loose end in forcing Palestinians to accept Trump’s ‘deal of the century’ peace plan

    No shit Sherlock…..if you didnt see this coming years back then you don’t spend any time tracking the beast.

    Its all right here:

    http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/hs_short_eng.htm

    (get the us to front the money to buy out the Palestines and emigrate them)

    http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/refugees_kushner.php

    (defund the refugees and try to force them on the countries they are refugees in)

    I’ve been drawing attention to this for years and this plan has been in the works for decades.
    Just waiting for a whore for the Jews like Trump and his Jew snake son in law to come along and make it happen.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Please do not see this as provocative comment.
    I have seen a few your comments and I conclude that your brain is working.
    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    .................................................
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
    ..................................................
    I anybody other can help me here he/she is welcomed.
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  5. Jewry, in my opinion, is playing a very dangerous game, dangerous to jews.

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    • Replies: @Z-man
    Yeah this is a worst case scenario. Even bought off regimes like Jordan and Egypt wont go for all the humiliating points in this article...but we shall see. The power of ZOG bucks is very enticing.
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  6. Israel will be just…Jews are.the most decent, moral people on the planet. They can do no wrong.

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    • Replies: @Z-man
    You're being sarcastic, right?
    , @snot
    you do sound like you believe...thats to say, you are contolled by the land based meat puppets usage of the oe supernatural celestial dictatorship!
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  7. “sometimes you have to strategically risk breaking things in order to get there”. Like the Palestinians, Iraq, Syria, Libya and perhaps Iran? Is there anything the US and Europe won’t do to secure Israel’s place in the world?

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  8. The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players. And their latest game of conquest via guile, subterfuge, and attack is finally coming to a close. And the winner is….

    After decades of ‘peace agreements’, false starts, fake overtures, disingenuous ‘statements of cooperation’, preemptive assaults, peace accords, Camp David ‘breakthroughs’, Israeli ‘retaliatory strikes’, and deceptive stratagems; the Jewish state’s multifaceted game of dispossession, dismemberment, and domination is wrapping up. And it’s all on Israel’s terms. Surprised?

    As measured by land captured, economic power gained, money squandered, damage inflicted, influence applied, and causalities endured, Israel is the undeniable winner in every category. Global Zionist power and influence has has also blossomed. Even Saudi Arabia has become an Israeli asset.

    The downtrodden Jews just happen to be kicking everyone’s meek, pathetic ass. Israeli prowess is so fearsome that few dare to even allude to it, much less criticize it. It’s far, far safer to chase Russian phantoms spotted American social media.

    Meanwhile, there are many losers–and not just the pathetic, homeless/stateless, malnourished Palestinians. Consider the dopey, divided Americans who are out trillions, still at war, and saddled with the national reputation as Israel’s chief sponsor, enabler, and subordinate.

    And what about Western Europe?–now home to millions of resentful, alienated and unwanted Arab/Muslims whose nations were needlessly annihilated by Zio-Washington and its useful cold war relic, NATO.

    Will it finally even matter if/when Americans realize that they’ve been taken to the cleaners by a tiny, supremacist, foreign state? Probably not. Our glorious proud citizenry will be too busy shopping, watching pro football, or checking their Facebook page.

    Meanwhile, the Zions will be writing the headlines, funding the Parties, orchestrating the platforms, crafting the immigration policies, and managing the discourse. Not to worry. If unwelcome dissent does rear its ugly head, all unapproved views (be they ‘anti-Semitic’, ‘hateful’, or ‘far right’) will be quietly ‘deplatformed’. It’s all under control!

    The pro-Zionist New World Order is certainly on winning streak. This marks a brilliant (though diabolical) victory for the usual revolutionaries.

    Looking back, the vaunted, exhausting, 40-year-long Mideast ‘Peace Process’ turned out to be a bright, glimmering, and very kosher, fairy tale.

    As a consequence, the non-Jewish deplorables in Palestine will have to pack up, crawl away, and beg for crumbs outside the Jews Only area. Presumably, most of these exiles will end up in in Jordan, Lebanon, or in war-torn Iraq or Syria. Failing that, there’s always Western Europe and America. Anyway you look at it: goys gotta go!

    This ethnic transformation is part of a master gameplan: enlarging the Zionist footprint, empowering the global Jewish community while Judaizing Israel, adding ‘diversity’ to the white West, and finding a convenient new ghetto for Israel’s last waves of gentile refugees.

    Ironically, it is a nation of gentiles (that’s us) that will be picking up the tab and karma for Israel’s rogue expansion and state-sponsored ethnic cleansing.

    The sad, final chapters in the Israel/Palestine tragedy are about to unfold: Facts on the ground (and Zionist influence above) tell us so.

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    Your post is excellent except for the beginning.

    The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players.
     
    Brilliant? Well if you own the board, the chess pieces, the table, chairs and the opposing player, 'brilliance' has nothing to do with it.
    , @skrik

    Facts on the ground
     
    is largely a propaganda device designed to deceive. As I point out @19, what was ELO/Os' property remains ELO/Os' [heirs & successors] property; the illegitimate entity is squatting on improperly alienated land/property. That illegitimate entity even 'surreptitiously' acknowledges that fact, by listing all land illegitimately dispossessed from those ELO/Os into some database, then doling it out as if it were being 'leased.' All it will take for the illegitimate entity and all non-ELO/Os who illegally reside there to be booted out is a significant change in the Zs' 'support network' - like the US$ losing 'world reserve' status, say. Beware hubris; perhaps any gloating is premature - and never may be possible at all, providing the 'correct' worm turns soon enough. rgds
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  9. This is what you get when mother of rivers of dollars is flowing to China.
    And China has no dog in the fight.
    China is spending their money in Black Africa, and does not give rats arse about Middle East.

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  10. @Colin Wright
    It doesn't matter much. The PLO is already essentially a collaborationist regime -- and regarded as such.

    Curiously, it has even found itself faced with many of the same dilemmas Vichy France was confronted with, and forced down the same path, leading to an increasing loss of legitimacy.

    In the end, the PLO will sign whatever Israel demands, but it won't matter, because the PLO won't represent anyone.

    Interesting comparison….and the Zionist entity equals???

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    'Interesting comparison….and the Zionist entity equals???'

    Nazi Germany, of course. In many ways, Israel represents the fulfillment of what Nazism sought -- only elsewhere, and for someone else.

    The similarities are striking. One of these days, I'll have to write an essay about it.
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  11. @Per/Norway
    they have bitten over to much this time.
    Hezbollah will annihilate the zionist entity in occupied Palestine this time as in 2006, only now Iran, Syria and a few others will be dragged in. This means the entity will use its nuclear weapons with all the consequences that will bring.
    Our only comfort is that at least there will literally be no more zionist entity in Palestine, it is of little comfort tbh but the zionist entity bear all the blame.
    i hope the survivors(if any) in the world will make them pay.

    But that means the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders…

    Talk about blow back…

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    the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders
     
    not 'just' outside but wa-a-ay outside. The 'scuttlebutt' has it that Samson has pre-positioned their 'explosive devices' in various cites around the world [just like somebody pre-positioned explosive devices in WTCs 1, 2 & 7 - hmmm; modus operandi anyone?]

    The 'only' problem with this for the Zs is, that as soon as just one of Samson's devices is set off, a squillion 'Hs' will be dispatched in the illegitimate entity's direction from 2 or possibly even 3 or more directions, exactly mirroring the Zs own 'philosophy' = "IF we can't have it THEN nobody can!" Thus being terminally hoist on their own petard, so to [sadly] say. I just wrote about gloating; in the Samson case, there will most likely be very few to no one left at all, neither to gloat nor mourn. rgds

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  12. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    I agree with Per/Norway @1 The humanity of the world is coming together, to do what the nations refuse to do. It has become increasingly clear, the tragic history of mankind can be directly traced to hyped up fake news, to engineered propaganda distributed via tightly controlled access to the media and to the gangsterized use of military and technology.

    We have all come to understand that oppression and false propaganda are weapons of mass destruction. Oppression and false propaganda destroy humanity; O&FP are more powerful than all nuclear weapons exploding at once. Humanity now recognizes that: not exposing propaganda to be false, not coming to the aid of those facing forced aggression, and not punishing crimes against humanity set us up; to be wiped out. (from a nuclear holocaust there will always be survivors, but an oppressed and misled human society will die and leave not a trace). Opposing oppression and false or engineered propaganda are everyone’s duty, they are not someone else’s problem.

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  13. Oh sorry! I did forget the most important thing.
    Hunger games are now on.
    First grain of wheat was put on the chessboard.
    Soon the hunger games will be in full swing.

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  14. Agent76 says:

    Jul 9, 2014 Gaza ~ It Is Not A War ~ It’s Murder

    Chris Hedges, spoke at the Revolution Books Town Hall Meeting at Ethical Culture Society on January 13, 2009 condemning Israel and USA complicity in Israel’s murderous destruction and genocide of the innocent men, women and children of GAZA and the West Bank. Dedicated to the children of GAZA.

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  15. Agent76 says:

    Jul 4, 2012 Hamas, An Israeli Creation

    Ron Paul alludes to the fact that Israel helped to spawn Hamas in order to weaken the then immensely popular and secular PLO.

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  16. Z-man says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen
    Israel will be just...Jews are.the most decent, moral people on the planet. They can do no wrong.

    You’re being sarcastic, right?

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    Maybe he has been influenced by the Jew Testament:

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”
    • Acts 3:25 “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’”
    • Romans 1:16 “The Jew first.”
    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”
    • Romans 15:27 “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”

    Or the Catholic Catechism:

    • "To the Jews 'belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship...'"
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  17. Let’s call it what it is, “The Final Solution” for the Palestinian peoples. It just goes to show the real homicidal, racist monsters sport a Star of David and not a Swastika.

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  18. UNRWA is simply an agency that maintains people in poverty and squalor. In every other case, refugees were moved somewhere and they settled in. Not “Palestinians” however. They’ve been too useful for political araby and the “refugees” have paid the price for it.

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    They’ve been too useful for political araby and the “refugees” have paid the price for it.
     
    Kindly explain, otherwise I think you meant Zionism rather than "araby."
    , @Tyrion 2
    I visited a refugee camp in the Palestinian administered West Bank...whaaaaaaaat! Why are Palestinians living in a camp in the West Bank rather than the beautiful and spacious Palestinian homes and lands next door? 70 years later? Wtf? Their camp is literally in their town. This is mental. It'd be like if France invaded England and took Liverpool and 70 years later the Scouse refugees were still forced by the Mancs to live apart. And we think our societies lack solidarity!
    , @Anonymous
    According to the "Palestinians" themselves, some 700,000 people left the territory of current Israel in 1948. (The real number was likely somewhat lower.) Both push and pull factors prompted the exodus. Almost all were Jordanian citizens.

    Now, 70 years later, this population has multiplied to 5,000,000, many still living in cargo cult squalor on our dime.

    Meanwhile, millions of Europeans and Asians (Poles, "ethnic Germans," Czecho-Slovaks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian Dutch, Indians during Partition, etc.) displaced during and after WW II had to make a new life for themselves under precarious conditions. Somehow, most members of these displaced populations made a new life for themselves without the tender mercies of a corrupt UNRWA bureaucracy.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough.

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  19. skrik says:

    @Jonathan Cook

    Some time ago, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas surrendered their right – sanctioned in international law – to return to their former lands in what is now Israel

    ¿Qué? I presume “sanctioned in international law” to mean UNGA194:

    11.Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date

    adding UDHR which specifies *inalienable* rights:

    Article 3.
    • Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 17.
    • (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    • (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property

    finally, see the Washington Consensus:

    10.Legal security for property rights

    All three mean that the ELO/Os [= erstwhile legal owner/occupiers] of Palestine [aka the pre-Herzl natives] may neither surrender nor be deprived of their rights and/or property. Then, AFAIK, a) nobody may enter into an illegal contract, b) any so-called representative attempting to do so would immediately lose any purported ‘representative’ status and power, *therefore* I conclude that “Abbas surrender” to be invalid, null and void.

    I am truly fed up with a) US/Z criminality but worse b) the way the ‘rest of the world’ does nothing effectively countervailing to stop that vile criminality. Q: Exactly where is the decent majority, recalling that ‘the people’ are the ultimate source of all power? BAH!

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  20. The Trump administration’s decision to scrap all future aid payments to the main agency helping Palestinian refugees…

    The Arabs, who were allies of the “Allies” during WW1 and fought well, were betrayed and are still being screwed over. Withholding funds from the true victims is nothing new.

    To many pages of such reports the Zionist press was able happily to append the news that: ‘The International Refugee Organization, which is mainly supported by the United States and Britain, announces that the Palestinian Arabs are not eligible for its assistance. The organization has allocated £1,500,000 for the Jewish Agency’s resettlement programme. Half the amount will be used for youth immigration to Israel.’ On January 28th, 1949, this body decided by all votes against the British one, to expend £1,000,000 on sending 50,000 Jews into Palestine. The word ‘refugee’, like many others in our time, seems to need defining anew, when invaders are paid a million pounds and fugitives denied a penny.

    -Douglas Reed, Somewhere South of Suez, p 162 (1950)

    https://ia801406.us.archive.org/32/items/SomewhereSouthOfSuez/suez.pdf

    Trump is a sicko Zio-puppet, like every “prezident” since Wilson at least. (And yes, Hillary would have been worse.)

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  21. Z-man says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Jewry, in my opinion, is playing a very dangerous game, dangerous to jews.

    Yeah this is a worst case scenario. Even bought off regimes like Jordan and Egypt wont go for all the humiliating points in this article…but we shall see. The power of ZOG bucks is very enticing.

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  22. Z-man says:
    @mark green
    The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players. And their latest game of conquest via guile, subterfuge, and attack is finally coming to a close. And the winner is....

    After decades of 'peace agreements', false starts, fake overtures, disingenuous 'statements of cooperation', preemptive assaults, peace accords, Camp David 'breakthroughs', Israeli 'retaliatory strikes', and deceptive stratagems; the Jewish state's multifaceted game of dispossession, dismemberment, and domination is wrapping up. And it's all on Israel's terms. Surprised?

    As measured by land captured, economic power gained, money squandered, damage inflicted, influence applied, and causalities endured, Israel is the undeniable winner in every category. Global Zionist power and influence has has also blossomed. Even Saudi Arabia has become an Israeli asset.

    The downtrodden Jews just happen to be kicking everyone's meek, pathetic ass. Israeli prowess is so fearsome that few dare to even allude to it, much less criticize it. It's far, far safer to chase Russian phantoms spotted American social media.

    Meanwhile, there are many losers--and not just the pathetic, homeless/stateless, malnourished Palestinians. Consider the dopey, divided Americans who are out trillions, still at war, and saddled with the national reputation as Israel's chief sponsor, enabler, and subordinate.

    And what about Western Europe?--now home to millions of resentful, alienated and unwanted Arab/Muslims whose nations were needlessly annihilated by Zio-Washington and its useful cold war relic, NATO.

    Will it finally even matter if/when Americans realize that they've been taken to the cleaners by a tiny, supremacist, foreign state? Probably not. Our glorious proud citizenry will be too busy shopping, watching pro football, or checking their Facebook page.

    Meanwhile, the Zions will be writing the headlines, funding the Parties, orchestrating the platforms, crafting the immigration policies, and managing the discourse. Not to worry. If unwelcome dissent does rear its ugly head, all unapproved views (be they 'anti-Semitic', 'hateful', or 'far right') will be quietly 'deplatformed'. It's all under control!

    The pro-Zionist New World Order is certainly on winning streak. This marks a brilliant (though diabolical) victory for the usual revolutionaries.

    Looking back, the vaunted, exhausting, 40-year-long Mideast 'Peace Process' turned out to be a bright, glimmering, and very kosher, fairy tale.

    As a consequence, the non-Jewish deplorables in Palestine will have to pack up, crawl away, and beg for crumbs outside the Jews Only area. Presumably, most of these exiles will end up in in Jordan, Lebanon, or in war-torn Iraq or Syria. Failing that, there's always Western Europe and America. Anyway you look at it: goys gotta go!

    This ethnic transformation is part of a master gameplan: enlarging the Zionist footprint, empowering the global Jewish community while Judaizing Israel, adding 'diversity' to the white West, and finding a convenient new ghetto for Israel's last waves of gentile refugees.

    Ironically, it is a nation of gentiles (that's us) that will be picking up the tab and karma for Israel's rogue expansion and state-sponsored ethnic cleansing.

    The sad, final chapters in the Israel/Palestine tragedy are about to unfold: Facts on the ground (and Zionist influence above) tell us so.

    Your post is excellent except for the beginning.

    The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players.

    Brilliant? Well if you own the board, the chess pieces, the table, chairs and the opposing player, ‘brilliance’ has nothing to do with it.

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    Brilliant.
    In the early WWII years a jew escaped from one of the concentration camps and was smuggled trough Europe to Portugal, from there he went to the USA and told his story, what exactly, I do not know, to Frankfurter, one of the WWII architects, the writer of LendLease.
    Frankfurter said to the jew 'I do not believe one word of what you're saying'.
    He later explained 'I did not say he lied, I said I did not believe him'.
    Yet, in a 1939 speech Hitler threatened jewry with 'ausrotten',what the word exactly meant then is still under debate, 'if they again caused a world war'.
    Hitler executed his threat.
    Frankfurter clearly was not so brilliant as to foresee the misery his war would cause to jews in Europe, killed in gas chambers or not, they were deported.
    Just imagine civilians living comfortable lives, taken from their homes, brought by trains to camps, where they were put in jail clothes, were forced to do work they did not want to do.
    Living in barracks.
    In my opinion jews at present again are far from brilliant, they play a very dangerous game, for the world, but surely for themselves.
    And to what end this game, I wonder ?
    Cannot see any reasonable end.
    Possibly a terrible end, nowhere to go, except Israel, that cannot survive without USA financial and political support.
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  23. @Quartermaster
    UNRWA is simply an agency that maintains people in poverty and squalor. In every other case, refugees were moved somewhere and they settled in. Not "Palestinians" however. They've been too useful for political araby and the "refugees" have paid the price for it.

    They’ve been too useful for political araby and the “refugees” have paid the price for it.

    Kindly explain, otherwise I think you meant Zionism rather than “araby.”

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  24. I understand most people here extremely hate (Israeli) Jews, but the whole issue is irrational: most Palestinian “refugees” are not that anymore, according to UNHCR standards. UNRWA definition of refugees & UNHCR’s are different.

    Simply put, descendants of refugees are not refugees.

    At gut level, I’m not much involved. But, generally, I’m for Israel. They’re mostly acceptable Kebab. Arabs are, on the other hand, unacceptable Kebab, with a few minor exceptions.

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    I Rember reading about these refugees in the old Colliers Magazine when I was in junior high school. That is before the 1956, 1967 and 1973 wars. They seemed to be a pathetic lot then. Some of them were brought to the states ( Siran-Siran) and some went elsewhere. Not much seems to have changed except they have had a lot of births.
    Now the answer is to have them join in the inundation of western Europe in a tide of hostile, unassimilatable Muslims. Of course the US will get it's share of this new, favored ethnic identity.
    One of the few sensible actions That PDJT has made is to cut off US funding for this endless money trap. While he is at it, he should stop all payment of refugee action groups including the US Catholic Bishops, Episcopal, Lutherin, Hebrew and such charities involved in locating totally alien groups into otherwise successful US communities ( Congolese in Wyoming, Somolians into Maine and Minnesota).
    , @anonymous
    Given that you are woefully lacking in morality, I just imagined you roasting in Hell... the Kaldian Kebab. LOL!
    , @Anonymous
    Bardon. Piss off.

    You are 'much involved'. You show up to shill for Jews far too often to pretend you have no stake in the matter.
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  25. @JoaoAlfaiate
    Interesting comparison....and the Zionist entity equals???

    ‘Interesting comparison….and the Zionist entity equals???’

    Nazi Germany, of course. In many ways, Israel represents the fulfillment of what Nazism sought — only elsewhere, and for someone else.

    The similarities are striking. One of these days, I’ll have to write an essay about it.

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  26. skrik says:
    @mark green
    The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players. And their latest game of conquest via guile, subterfuge, and attack is finally coming to a close. And the winner is....

    After decades of 'peace agreements', false starts, fake overtures, disingenuous 'statements of cooperation', preemptive assaults, peace accords, Camp David 'breakthroughs', Israeli 'retaliatory strikes', and deceptive stratagems; the Jewish state's multifaceted game of dispossession, dismemberment, and domination is wrapping up. And it's all on Israel's terms. Surprised?

    As measured by land captured, economic power gained, money squandered, damage inflicted, influence applied, and causalities endured, Israel is the undeniable winner in every category. Global Zionist power and influence has has also blossomed. Even Saudi Arabia has become an Israeli asset.

    The downtrodden Jews just happen to be kicking everyone's meek, pathetic ass. Israeli prowess is so fearsome that few dare to even allude to it, much less criticize it. It's far, far safer to chase Russian phantoms spotted American social media.

    Meanwhile, there are many losers--and not just the pathetic, homeless/stateless, malnourished Palestinians. Consider the dopey, divided Americans who are out trillions, still at war, and saddled with the national reputation as Israel's chief sponsor, enabler, and subordinate.

    And what about Western Europe?--now home to millions of resentful, alienated and unwanted Arab/Muslims whose nations were needlessly annihilated by Zio-Washington and its useful cold war relic, NATO.

    Will it finally even matter if/when Americans realize that they've been taken to the cleaners by a tiny, supremacist, foreign state? Probably not. Our glorious proud citizenry will be too busy shopping, watching pro football, or checking their Facebook page.

    Meanwhile, the Zions will be writing the headlines, funding the Parties, orchestrating the platforms, crafting the immigration policies, and managing the discourse. Not to worry. If unwelcome dissent does rear its ugly head, all unapproved views (be they 'anti-Semitic', 'hateful', or 'far right') will be quietly 'deplatformed'. It's all under control!

    The pro-Zionist New World Order is certainly on winning streak. This marks a brilliant (though diabolical) victory for the usual revolutionaries.

    Looking back, the vaunted, exhausting, 40-year-long Mideast 'Peace Process' turned out to be a bright, glimmering, and very kosher, fairy tale.

    As a consequence, the non-Jewish deplorables in Palestine will have to pack up, crawl away, and beg for crumbs outside the Jews Only area. Presumably, most of these exiles will end up in in Jordan, Lebanon, or in war-torn Iraq or Syria. Failing that, there's always Western Europe and America. Anyway you look at it: goys gotta go!

    This ethnic transformation is part of a master gameplan: enlarging the Zionist footprint, empowering the global Jewish community while Judaizing Israel, adding 'diversity' to the white West, and finding a convenient new ghetto for Israel's last waves of gentile refugees.

    Ironically, it is a nation of gentiles (that's us) that will be picking up the tab and karma for Israel's rogue expansion and state-sponsored ethnic cleansing.

    The sad, final chapters in the Israel/Palestine tragedy are about to unfold: Facts on the ground (and Zionist influence above) tell us so.

    Facts on the ground

    is largely a propaganda device designed to deceive. As I point out @19, what was ELO/Os’ property remains ELO/Os’ [heirs & successors] property; the illegitimate entity is squatting on improperly alienated land/property. That illegitimate entity even ‘surreptitiously’ acknowledges that fact, by listing all land illegitimately dispossessed from those ELO/Os into some database, then doling it out as if it were being ‘leased.’ All it will take for the illegitimate entity and all non-ELO/Os who illegally reside there to be booted out is a significant change in the Zs’ ‘support network’ – like the US$ losing ‘world reserve’ status, say. Beware hubris; perhaps any gloating is premature – and never may be possible at all, providing the ‘correct’ worm turns soon enough. rgds

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  27. @renfro

    Refugees are the final loose end in forcing Palestinians to accept Trump’s ‘deal of the century’ peace plan
     
    No shit Sherlock.....if you didnt see this coming years back then you don't spend any time tracking the beast.

    Its all right here:

    http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/hs_short_eng.htm
    (get the us to front the money to buy out the Palestines and emigrate them)

    http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/refugees_kushner.php
    (defund the refugees and try to force them on the countries they are refugees in)

    I've been drawing attention to this for years and this plan has been in the works for decades.
    Just waiting for a whore for the Jews like Trump and his Jew snake son in law to come along and make it happen.

    Please do not see this as provocative comment.
    I have seen a few your comments and I conclude that your brain is working.
    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    ………………………………………….
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
    …………………………………………..
    I anybody other can help me here he/she is welcomed.

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    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
     
    Let me 'splain it to you Lucy. (Grin)
    Donald Trump is the least political man to win the office of POTUS (in the modern era anyway). He owes little to The Cabal that almost completely runs Washington and the media as opposed to the rest of the whores (politicians) that have been elected who owe their entire existence to 'them'. Now, even though he has been a good Zionist lackey, since 'they' don't have complete control of him they are not completely happy (nervous) with the situation and want him removed/destroyed. They want total submission.
    To his credit, Donald has been very clever (one can say brilliant) in playing off some Satanists against others, while still promoting a mostly 'America First' agenda (except Israhell of course). People like that rodent Alan Dershowitz have come to his defense mostly because of his (Trump's) slavish support of The Zionist Entity. But in reality all that Trump has given to the Zionists so far is recognizing Jerusalem as its capitol with final status still to be resolved which are the same issues that have existed for 70 years. His son in law might try to push for a more pro Zionist final status agreement but that we will have to see.
    The Cabal doesn't want friendship they want total obedience and with Donald they feel they won't get that (too uncontrollable).
    , @renfro
    It does seem like a contradiction but for the liberal Jewish media, CNN etc. and the neocon Jewish media, Fox, etc. its simply a matter of tactics where Israel is concerned.

    The liberal Jews like Hillary's Saban want a solution in Israel that doesn't involve a violent upset that would bring international condemnation and more heat on Israel, they want to continue the phony peace talks until Israel has taken all of Palestine and two states are impossible. They are confident that Israel could keep a SA style apartheid for Palestines in one state so they could maintain 'Jewish rule'.
    The neocon Jews represented by Trump's Adelson want to use force to literally to destroy the Palestines and go ahead and seize the rest of Palestine and force the Palestine to flee the land much as they had to do in 1948--along of course with bombing all the countries in the region like Iran that threaten Israel's dominance.
    So you have two schools of thought in the Jews for Israel but both dedicated to maintaining Israel.

    Then you have other issues related to the Jews and their media like immigration that also have two schools of thought.

    Liberal Jews believe that the more ethnic minorities in the US playing in politics the safer the Jews are from their age old enemies and the rule of the European American gentiles and whites. Their liberal outlets have promoted the evil whites and racist whites meme to accomplish this, turning any objections to rampant immigration into 'racism'.

    The neocon Jewish outlets against illegal immigration believe that is a way to align with non Jewish conservative whites and the hardcore Jewish column thinks they can control and direct the US government against American citizens in any domestic anti semitism threat to the Jews----as illustrated by the anti boycott laws, official definitions of anti semitism , and etc the US congress has passed for them. So encouraging immigration is not something they see as necessary....they rely on pure political force and control of government.
    , @jacques sheete

    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
     
    The contradictions are no doubt intentional. Remember when the USA was against Communism until it supported it then became it's "enemy" again? Now that Communism (and Zionism) have effectively taken over the US, we hear nothing about it any longer. It's all designed to keep us confused.

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
     
    I suspect it's all a huge show. Pay no attention to what politicians say or what mass media spews, or if you do notice it, laugh at it and remember that the important stuff is generally ignored. As they say, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on. We should probably do the same.
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  28. skrik says:
    @Daniel Rich
    But that means the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders...

    Talk about blow back...

    the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders

    not ‘just’ outside but wa-a-ay outside. The ‘scuttlebutt’ has it that Samson has pre-positioned their ‘explosive devices’ in various cites around the world [just like somebody pre-positioned explosive devices in WTCs 1, 2 & 7 - hmmm; modus operandi anyone?]

    The ‘only’ problem with this for the Zs is, that as soon as just one of Samson’s devices is set off, a squillion ‘Hs’ will be dispatched in the illegitimate entity’s direction from 2 or possibly even 3 or more directions, exactly mirroring the Zs own ‘philosophy’ = “IF we can’t have it THEN nobody can!” Thus being terminally hoist on their own petard, so to [sadly] say. I just wrote about gloating; in the Samson case, there will most likely be very few to no one left at all, neither to gloat nor mourn. rgds

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    Sadly you are right.
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  29. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man
    You're being sarcastic, right?

    Maybe he has been influenced by the Jew Testament:

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”
    • Acts 3:25 “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’”
    • Romans 1:16 “The Jew first.”
    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”
    • Romans 15:27 “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”

    Or the Catholic Catechism:

    • “To the Jews ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship…’”

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    Nah, he's being sarcastic as are you.
    I take this out of the New Testament; John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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  30. Z-man says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Please do not see this as provocative comment.
    I have seen a few your comments and I conclude that your brain is working.
    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    .................................................
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
    ..................................................
    I anybody other can help me here he/she is welcomed.

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.

    Let me ‘splain it to you Lucy. (Grin)
    Donald Trump is the least political man to win the office of POTUS (in the modern era anyway). He owes little to The Cabal that almost completely runs Washington and the media as opposed to the rest of the whores (politicians) that have been elected who owe their entire existence to ‘them’. Now, even though he has been a good Zionist lackey, since ‘they’ don’t have complete control of him they are not completely happy (nervous) with the situation and want him removed/destroyed. They want total submission.
    To his credit, Donald has been very clever (one can say brilliant) in playing off some Satanists against others, while still promoting a mostly ‘America First’ agenda (except Israhell of course). People like that rodent Alan Dershowitz have come to his defense mostly because of his (Trump’s) slavish support of The Zionist Entity. But in reality all that Trump has given to the Zionists so far is recognizing Jerusalem as its capitol with final status still to be resolved which are the same issues that have existed for 70 years. His son in law might try to push for a more pro Zionist final status agreement but that we will have to see.
    The Cabal doesn’t want friendship they want total obedience and with Donald they feel they won’t get that (too uncontrollable).

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    Thank you for partially opening my eyes, but I am still confused.
    Trump's America first agenda is to bring back or rebuild US manufacturing industries, and so limit, or eliminate imports. Also to decrease trade deficits. In my (Luci's ) mind it the most important thing president can do. Because these policies makes US stronger, and mightier.
    ...................................................................................................................
    Than if Cabal opposes these policies aren't they cutting the branch on which they are sitting?
    , @Johnnie Walker Read
    Yah, and Jesus is riddin' a cloud down to save us all any day now...
    , @Steve in Greensboro
    I mostly agree with The Z-man. The Cabal wants BOTH 100% control of Washington and 100% support for Israel.

    Their recent experience with the empty suit Obama, taught them that they can have both. They got strong control of Washington and much better support for Israel via ongoing Neocon style disruption of the Middle East (see the withdrawal from Iraq and the resulting rise of the ISIS caliphate, the destruction of Libya and the attempted destruction of Egypt and Syria).

    With Trump, all they got was Jerusalem (which is not really meaningful in any strategic sense) and they lost much of their control over Washington. They want another Neocon war (ideally support for a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Syria), but Trump is not going to give that to them.

    What Trump is going to give The Cabal (I believe) is a “greater Israel” with the Palestinians left with Gaza only and permanent underclass status in neighboring countries. The Cabal of course will want more.

    The question is “what will The Cabal do when Trump is gone”? By 2024, the Dems will be wholly captured by the leftist coalition of the NAMs who are anti-Zionists. My expectation is that there will be a rapprochement between the Neocons and the Republican party. And once again the 60-70% of the American people who want “America First” will no longer have a party that represents their interests.
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  31. prusmc says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian
    I understand most people here extremely hate (Israeli) Jews, but the whole issue is irrational: most Palestinian "refugees" are not that anymore, according to UNHCR standards. UNRWA definition of refugees & UNHCR's are different.

    Simply put, descendants of refugees are not refugees.

    At gut level, I'm not much involved. But, generally, I'm for Israel. They're mostly acceptable Kebab. Arabs are, on the other hand, unacceptable Kebab, with a few minor exceptions.

    I Rember reading about these refugees in the old Colliers Magazine when I was in junior high school. That is before the 1956, 1967 and 1973 wars. They seemed to be a pathetic lot then. Some of them were brought to the states ( Siran-Siran) and some went elsewhere. Not much seems to have changed except they have had a lot of births.
    Now the answer is to have them join in the inundation of western Europe in a tide of hostile, unassimilatable Muslims. Of course the US will get it’s share of this new, favored ethnic identity.
    One of the few sensible actions That PDJT has made is to cut off US funding for this endless money trap. While he is at it, he should stop all payment of refugee action groups including the US Catholic Bishops, Episcopal, Lutherin, Hebrew and such charities involved in locating totally alien groups into otherwise successful US communities ( Congolese in Wyoming, Somolians into Maine and Minnesota).

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  32. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Quartermaster
    UNRWA is simply an agency that maintains people in poverty and squalor. In every other case, refugees were moved somewhere and they settled in. Not "Palestinians" however. They've been too useful for political araby and the "refugees" have paid the price for it.

    I visited a refugee camp in the Palestinian administered West Bank…whaaaaaaaat! Why are Palestinians living in a camp in the West Bank rather than the beautiful and spacious Palestinian homes and lands next door? 70 years later? Wtf? Their camp is literally in their town. This is mental. It’d be like if France invaded England and took Liverpool and 70 years later the Scouse refugees were still forced by the Mancs to live apart. And we think our societies lack solidarity!

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  33. Z-man says:
    @Anonymous
    Maybe he has been influenced by the Jew Testament:

    • John 4:22 “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”
    • Acts 3:25 “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’”
    • Romans 1:16 “The Jew first.”
    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”
    • Romans 15:27 “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”

    Or the Catholic Catechism:

    • "To the Jews 'belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship...'"

    Nah, he’s being sarcastic as are you.
    I take this out of the New Testament; John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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    I wasn't being sarcastic. Thus, you are the one lying. Now we all know the identify of your daddy. You have said it yourself.
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  34. @Z-man
    Your post is excellent except for the beginning.

    The Israelis are nothing if not brilliant chess players.
     
    Brilliant? Well if you own the board, the chess pieces, the table, chairs and the opposing player, 'brilliance' has nothing to do with it.

    Brilliant.
    In the early WWII years a jew escaped from one of the concentration camps and was smuggled trough Europe to Portugal, from there he went to the USA and told his story, what exactly, I do not know, to Frankfurter, one of the WWII architects, the writer of LendLease.
    Frankfurter said to the jew ‘I do not believe one word of what you’re saying’.
    He later explained ‘I did not say he lied, I said I did not believe him’.
    Yet, in a 1939 speech Hitler threatened jewry with ‘ausrotten’,what the word exactly meant then is still under debate, ‘if they again caused a world war’.
    Hitler executed his threat.
    Frankfurter clearly was not so brilliant as to foresee the misery his war would cause to jews in Europe, killed in gas chambers or not, they were deported.
    Just imagine civilians living comfortable lives, taken from their homes, brought by trains to camps, where they were put in jail clothes, were forced to do work they did not want to do.
    Living in barracks.
    In my opinion jews at present again are far from brilliant, they play a very dangerous game, for the world, but surely for themselves.
    And to what end this game, I wonder ?
    Cannot see any reasonable end.
    Possibly a terrible end, nowhere to go, except Israel, that cannot survive without USA financial and political support.

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  35. @skrik

    the Apartheid State has to detonate their nuclear arsenal just outside their non-existing borders
     
    not 'just' outside but wa-a-ay outside. The 'scuttlebutt' has it that Samson has pre-positioned their 'explosive devices' in various cites around the world [just like somebody pre-positioned explosive devices in WTCs 1, 2 & 7 - hmmm; modus operandi anyone?]

    The 'only' problem with this for the Zs is, that as soon as just one of Samson's devices is set off, a squillion 'Hs' will be dispatched in the illegitimate entity's direction from 2 or possibly even 3 or more directions, exactly mirroring the Zs own 'philosophy' = "IF we can't have it THEN nobody can!" Thus being terminally hoist on their own petard, so to [sadly] say. I just wrote about gloating; in the Samson case, there will most likely be very few to no one left at all, neither to gloat nor mourn. rgds

    Sadly you are right.

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  36. @Z-man

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
     
    Let me 'splain it to you Lucy. (Grin)
    Donald Trump is the least political man to win the office of POTUS (in the modern era anyway). He owes little to The Cabal that almost completely runs Washington and the media as opposed to the rest of the whores (politicians) that have been elected who owe their entire existence to 'them'. Now, even though he has been a good Zionist lackey, since 'they' don't have complete control of him they are not completely happy (nervous) with the situation and want him removed/destroyed. They want total submission.
    To his credit, Donald has been very clever (one can say brilliant) in playing off some Satanists against others, while still promoting a mostly 'America First' agenda (except Israhell of course). People like that rodent Alan Dershowitz have come to his defense mostly because of his (Trump's) slavish support of The Zionist Entity. But in reality all that Trump has given to the Zionists so far is recognizing Jerusalem as its capitol with final status still to be resolved which are the same issues that have existed for 70 years. His son in law might try to push for a more pro Zionist final status agreement but that we will have to see.
    The Cabal doesn't want friendship they want total obedience and with Donald they feel they won't get that (too uncontrollable).

    Thank you for partially opening my eyes, but I am still confused.
    Trump’s America first agenda is to bring back or rebuild US manufacturing industries, and so limit, or eliminate imports. Also to decrease trade deficits. In my (Luci’s ) mind it the most important thing president can do. Because these policies makes US stronger, and mightier.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    Than if Cabal opposes these policies aren’t they cutting the branch on which they are sitting?

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    Than if Cabal opposes these policies aren’t they cutting the branch on which they are sitting?
     
    The Cabal doesn't care what branch it is sitting on as long as the money keeps coming in. They are godless globalists who want to subjugate all people as long as it helps the shekels going in their pockets. Trump, at least on face value, is for Americans, American industry and American culture first. He is for fair trade as long as it puts Americas interests first, something that hasn't been done for generations by all of the corrupt negotiators working for our 'elected' officials. I hope he comes thru with this and doesn't have corrupt negotiators himself.
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  37. I have no sympathy for Muslims and in particular the Arabs but having said it, I feel that the rest of the Arab states can easily absorb all Palestinians, including the ones in Gaza, West Bank and Israel proper for the benefit of the mankind in that, that will be the perfect excuse to sequester every last Jew in Israel thereafter on an experimental basis. And once you’ve concentrated all twelve tribes in the “Holy Land”, the following need be done:

    Abolish all international financial institutions in favor of establishing the world bank in their city. And for the levy of one percent of the total credit created per annum out of all precious stones and metals deposited in the form of the Third Temple (the Muslims will just have to do with Mecca and Medina for holy places… the tale of donkey flying overnight just does not jell) by Gentiles, let them survive on it in their ethno state without fear of ever being attacked or harassed.

    And while they are enjoying their tuchus off on the perennial grant of best of everything, let the goyim figure out if they can manage without the geniuses, being that every last one of them is an Einstein, how would they deal with the lack of new discoveries, such as telegraph, telephone, television, internet, planes, submarines, drugs, falafel etc. And then once chastened by the absence of the Chosen, goyim would crawl on all fours to beg for their mercy and welcome them back to rule. It’s worth giving it a try… what say you, the sons of of the devil?

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    How about a "cultural population exchange?"
    Relocate all Arabs in Palestine to the American southwest.
    Relocate an equal number of U. S. Jews to their beloved Jewish State of Israel.
    With all the "filthy Arabs" gone, it should be paradise for the Jews, no?
    The Arabs can live in the houses the Jews leave behind, and vice versa.

    The capital of "New Palestine" could be in the Coachella Valley, which already has date palms.
    If London Bridge can be moved to Arizona, then I expect Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock could be relocated to Palm Springs. I suggest high on a hill, maybe right next to Bob hope's old house.
    What a landmark! And with a mostly Muslim population, the Call to Prayer should be welcome.

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  38. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Please do not see this as provocative comment.
    I have seen a few your comments and I conclude that your brain is working.
    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    .................................................
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
    ..................................................
    I anybody other can help me here he/she is welcomed.

    It does seem like a contradiction but for the liberal Jewish media, CNN etc. and the neocon Jewish media, Fox, etc. its simply a matter of tactics where Israel is concerned.

    The liberal Jews like Hillary’s Saban want a solution in Israel that doesn’t involve a violent upset that would bring international condemnation and more heat on Israel, they want to continue the phony peace talks until Israel has taken all of Palestine and two states are impossible. They are confident that Israel could keep a SA style apartheid for Palestines in one state so they could maintain ‘Jewish rule’.
    The neocon Jews represented by Trump’s Adelson want to use force to literally to destroy the Palestines and go ahead and seize the rest of Palestine and force the Palestine to flee the land much as they had to do in 1948–along of course with bombing all the countries in the region like Iran that threaten Israel’s dominance.
    So you have two schools of thought in the Jews for Israel but both dedicated to maintaining Israel.

    Then you have other issues related to the Jews and their media like immigration that also have two schools of thought.

    Liberal Jews believe that the more ethnic minorities in the US playing in politics the safer the Jews are from their age old enemies and the rule of the European American gentiles and whites. Their liberal outlets have promoted the evil whites and racist whites meme to accomplish this, turning any objections to rampant immigration into ‘racism’.

    The neocon Jewish outlets against illegal immigration believe that is a way to align with non Jewish conservative whites and the hardcore Jewish column thinks they can control and direct the US government against American citizens in any domestic anti semitism threat to the Jews—-as illustrated by the anti boycott laws, official definitions of anti semitism , and etc the US congress has passed for them. So encouraging immigration is not something they see as necessary….they rely on pure political force and control of government.

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  39. Z-man says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Thank you for partially opening my eyes, but I am still confused.
    Trump's America first agenda is to bring back or rebuild US manufacturing industries, and so limit, or eliminate imports. Also to decrease trade deficits. In my (Luci's ) mind it the most important thing president can do. Because these policies makes US stronger, and mightier.
    ...................................................................................................................
    Than if Cabal opposes these policies aren't they cutting the branch on which they are sitting?

    Than if Cabal opposes these policies aren’t they cutting the branch on which they are sitting?

    The Cabal doesn’t care what branch it is sitting on as long as the money keeps coming in. They are godless globalists who want to subjugate all people as long as it helps the shekels going in their pockets. Trump, at least on face value, is for Americans, American industry and American culture first. He is for fair trade as long as it puts Americas interests first, something that hasn’t been done for generations by all of the corrupt negotiators working for our ‘elected’ officials. I hope he comes thru with this and doesn’t have corrupt negotiators himself.

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  40. turtle says:
    @Dagon Shield
    I have no sympathy for Muslims and in particular the Arabs but having said it, I feel that the rest of the Arab states can easily absorb all Palestinians, including the ones in Gaza, West Bank and Israel proper for the benefit of the mankind in that, that will be the perfect excuse to sequester every last Jew in Israel thereafter on an experimental basis. And once you've concentrated all twelve tribes in the "Holy Land", the following need be done:

    Abolish all international financial institutions in favor of establishing the world bank in their city. And for the levy of one percent of the total credit created per annum out of all precious stones and metals deposited in the form of the Third Temple (the Muslims will just have to do with Mecca and Medina for holy places... the tale of donkey flying overnight just does not jell) by Gentiles, let them survive on it in their ethno state without fear of ever being attacked or harassed.

    And while they are enjoying their tuchus off on the perennial grant of best of everything, let the goyim figure out if they can manage without the geniuses, being that every last one of them is an Einstein, how would they deal with the lack of new discoveries, such as telegraph, telephone, television, internet, planes, submarines, drugs, falafel etc. And then once chastened by the absence of the Chosen, goyim would crawl on all fours to beg for their mercy and welcome them back to rule. It's worth giving it a try... what say you, the sons of of the devil?

    How about a “cultural population exchange?”
    Relocate all Arabs in Palestine to the American southwest.
    Relocate an equal number of U. S. Jews to their beloved Jewish State of Israel.
    With all the “filthy Arabs” gone, it should be paradise for the Jews, no?
    The Arabs can live in the houses the Jews leave behind, and vice versa.

    The capital of “New Palestine” could be in the Coachella Valley, which already has date palms.
    If London Bridge can be moved to Arizona, then I expect Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock could be relocated to Palm Springs. I suggest high on a hill, maybe right next to Bob hope’s old house.
    What a landmark! And with a mostly Muslim population, the Call to Prayer should be welcome.

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  41. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Please do not see this as provocative comment.
    I have seen a few your comments and I conclude that your brain is working.
    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    .................................................
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
    ..................................................
    I anybody other can help me here he/she is welcomed.

    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.

    The contradictions are no doubt intentional. Remember when the USA was against Communism until it supported it then became it’s “enemy” again? Now that Communism (and Zionism) have effectively taken over the US, we hear nothing about it any longer. It’s all designed to keep us confused.

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.

    I suspect it’s all a huge show. Pay no attention to what politicians say or what mass media spews, or if you do notice it, laugh at it and remember that the important stuff is generally ignored. As they say, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on. We should probably do the same.

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    The Show Must Go On....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMfMlu5AAGA
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  42. Virgile says:

    Israel had made Semitism a repulsive fascistic power. No one should be surprised of growing antisemistim all over the world. That would be the response of people who believe in justice to the monstruous “greater Israel”

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  43. Josecanuc says:
    @Biff
    Greater Israel in the works. Amazing how so many don’t realize the obvious.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    Also surprising is how so many don’t realize these even more conspicuous realities:

    “What we on earth call ‘God; is a little Jewish Tribal God – Yahweh – who has made an awful mess.” William S. Burroughs

    “The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.” Havelock Ellis, 1924

    “For, insane as it sounds, it (Orthodox Judaism) is nevertheless plain…on close examination, the real most deep seated ideological motive behind the Zionists persistent hostility towards the Palestinians…” Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion

    “The whole world is mentally sick, much more so, we Jews.” Arthur Ruppin 1876 –1943 Zionist, sociologist, one of the founders of Tel Aviv, taught Sociology of the Jews at Hebrew University, Jerusalem

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  44. anonymous[819] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    I understand most people here extremely hate (Israeli) Jews, but the whole issue is irrational: most Palestinian "refugees" are not that anymore, according to UNHCR standards. UNRWA definition of refugees & UNHCR's are different.

    Simply put, descendants of refugees are not refugees.

    At gut level, I'm not much involved. But, generally, I'm for Israel. They're mostly acceptable Kebab. Arabs are, on the other hand, unacceptable Kebab, with a few minor exceptions.

    Given that you are woefully lacking in morality, I just imagined you roasting in Hell… the Kaldian Kebab. LOL!

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  45. @jacques sheete

    I am at the moment confused and so I cannot solve this contradiction.
     
    The contradictions are no doubt intentional. Remember when the USA was against Communism until it supported it then became it's "enemy" again? Now that Communism (and Zionism) have effectively taken over the US, we hear nothing about it any longer. It's all designed to keep us confused.

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
     
    I suspect it's all a huge show. Pay no attention to what politicians say or what mass media spews, or if you do notice it, laugh at it and remember that the important stuff is generally ignored. As they say, the dogs bark and the caravan moves on. We should probably do the same.

    The Show Must Go On….

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  46. @Z-man

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
     
    Let me 'splain it to you Lucy. (Grin)
    Donald Trump is the least political man to win the office of POTUS (in the modern era anyway). He owes little to The Cabal that almost completely runs Washington and the media as opposed to the rest of the whores (politicians) that have been elected who owe their entire existence to 'them'. Now, even though he has been a good Zionist lackey, since 'they' don't have complete control of him they are not completely happy (nervous) with the situation and want him removed/destroyed. They want total submission.
    To his credit, Donald has been very clever (one can say brilliant) in playing off some Satanists against others, while still promoting a mostly 'America First' agenda (except Israhell of course). People like that rodent Alan Dershowitz have come to his defense mostly because of his (Trump's) slavish support of The Zionist Entity. But in reality all that Trump has given to the Zionists so far is recognizing Jerusalem as its capitol with final status still to be resolved which are the same issues that have existed for 70 years. His son in law might try to push for a more pro Zionist final status agreement but that we will have to see.
    The Cabal doesn't want friendship they want total obedience and with Donald they feel they won't get that (too uncontrollable).

    Yah, and Jesus is riddin’ a cloud down to save us all any day now…

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  47. Anonymous[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Quartermaster
    UNRWA is simply an agency that maintains people in poverty and squalor. In every other case, refugees were moved somewhere and they settled in. Not "Palestinians" however. They've been too useful for political araby and the "refugees" have paid the price for it.

    According to the “Palestinians” themselves, some 700,000 people left the territory of current Israel in 1948. (The real number was likely somewhat lower.) Both push and pull factors prompted the exodus. Almost all were Jordanian citizens.

    Now, 70 years later, this population has multiplied to 5,000,000, many still living in cargo cult squalor on our dime.

    Meanwhile, millions of Europeans and Asians (Poles, “ethnic Germans,” Czecho-Slovaks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian Dutch, Indians during Partition, etc.) displaced during and after WW II had to make a new life for themselves under precarious conditions. Somehow, most members of these displaced populations made a new life for themselves without the tender mercies of a corrupt UNRWA bureaucracy.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough.

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    Well said, Anon368. The Palestinian "refugees" need to grow up and stop being victims, something that can be said for the various Democrat "victim" groups as well.
    , @skrik

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough
     
    RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation - it's the law. The illegitimate entity squats on land that belongs to the native-to-Palestine ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers, 'funnily' enough, true Semites. That land has been improperly alienated and will never belong to the invading by stealth self-converted aliens = fake Judaics. IF they ever wish to join the human race THEN they should vacate and return whence they came, or to somewhere - anywhere - they may actually be 'welcome' - but NIMBY!

    Ben-Gurion: "We must see the situation for what it is. ... we are the attackers and the Arabs are those defending themselves. They are living in the country and own the land, ..."

    Those who support criminals make themselves accessories to the crimes [here 'supreme international'] and therefore assume part-guilt for the vicious, murdering ethnic cleansing - which continues into the current moment. Be ashamed. Pariah.

    , @renfro
    Palestinians fleeing their homeland
    UNRWA Photo Archive. Click for more pictures.

    https://fanack.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/UNRWA_Exodus_water_02_98efee797b.jpg
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  48. Frankie P says:
    @Per/Norway
    they have bitten over to much this time.
    Hezbollah will annihilate the zionist entity in occupied Palestine this time as in 2006, only now Iran, Syria and a few others will be dragged in. This means the entity will use its nuclear weapons with all the consequences that will bring.
    Our only comfort is that at least there will literally be no more zionist entity in Palestine, it is of little comfort tbh but the zionist entity bear all the blame.
    i hope the survivors(if any) in the world will make them pay.

    An esxerpt from Hassan Nasrallah’s most recent speech. Nasrallah is correct, for Hezbollah has God and righteousness on its side, and the Israeli’s are wallowing in their guilt, materialism and narcissism:

    “Until a few days ago, as part of the (recent) maneuvers in the north (of occupied Palestine), a senior officer in the Israeli army –this is reported by Israeli newspapers, not myself– said: “Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, because it has this, this, this and that.” Of course, I do not agree with him on this estimate. We do not consider that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, but this statement expresses how the Israeli enemy sees this Resistance he wanted to eradicate during the July 2006 war.
    Today, in 2018, this Resistance is, as I have always said and repeated every year, and allow me to repeat it again today, and the important thing is that the Israeli enemy knows very well that it is the strict, the undeniable truth: yes, the Resistance in Lebanon today, in its arms, its equipment, its capabilities, the number of its fighters, its cadres, its power, its expertise, its experiences, its faith, its determination, its courage and its will is stronger than ever since its launch in this region (in 1982)!
    [Audience: At your service, O Nasrallah!]
    Certainly, Israel can threaten (us with war) every day. Remember, just weeks after the end of the July (2006) war, Israel threatened Lebanon with a vengeful war that was (supposedly) approaching fast. But you can count (the years of peace) with me: where is this war that Israel (continually) threatened us with and for which it asserted itself ready, having supposedly fixed all its shortcomings and faults, promising that it would shortly launch a new war against Lebanon? They threatened us (with war) in 2007, and 2007 has passed (peacefully). (Same thing in) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, etc., until 2018. For 12 years, Israel has threatened us (permanently) to launch a war (imminently). But while they threaten to launch a war (against us), at the same time, they continue to evoke the fact that the Resistance becomes stronger (by the day) and that its (fire)power is increasing, until one of their officers said that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military.
    I want to tell him that we are not the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military, leave this subject aside, because it is not precise, and we do not want to create problems (by competing) with the armies of the region. But let me say to that senior Israeli officer, on (the date of the commemoration of) the July (2006) War, that Hezbollah is stronger than the Israeli army! The Resistance in Lebanon is stronger than the Israeli army!
    For either in 2000 or in 2006, it was never a question of manpower, equipment, quantity, capabilities, weapons or rockets / missiles. Today we have more faith in the righteousness of our cause than you have in your false, usurping cause. Today we are more willing to sacrifice than your miserable army and society, living in worry with many problems and in many files. Today we have more faith and confidence than ever in our God, our Creator and He who granted us victory, ever since God the Almighty and Majestic created us. Today we have more faith, trust and confidence in His Promise of victory addressed to the patients and sincere fighters. This sincerity, this faith and patience, we have them more than ever because of the accumulation of experiences.”

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    Is this a satirical sketch attempting to racistly portray Nasrallah as a verbose, ramblung Arab stereotype?
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  49. This was a great move by Trump. We now have to cutoff all aid to Israel. The Muslim Palestianians have Jordan. We need to set boundaries for Israel and send Western Jews to Israel. We need a separate homeland for Arab Christians. This would include the few Christian Palestianians left in the Middle East.

    The insane anti-Semites babble incessantly about the Jews but will never offer a solution for dealing with them. The solution is Israel. Jews did not have anything to do with the West’s development and do not belong in the West.

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  50. renfro says:

    The coup is heating up. Some senior figure in the Trump Adm has vilified Trump in a NYT op ed.
    A newspaper publishing an op ed like this on a president is unheard of.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    Opinion

    I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

    ”I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

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    *The Times is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

    ”President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
    It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
    The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
    I would know. I am one of them.
    To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
    But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
    That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
    The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.
    Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.
    In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.
    Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.
    But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.
    From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.
    Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.
    “There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.
    The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.
    It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.
    The result is a two-track presidency.
    Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.
    Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.
    On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.
    This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.
    Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.
    The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.
    Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation
    We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.
    There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.”

    The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration>>>>>

    Jon Huntsman is said the be a good suspect in this.

    The Obvious Suspect
    Slate Magazine-7 hours ago
    Who wrote the anonymous op-ed against President Trump in Wednesday’s New York Times? … And the article’s stated motive—“Americans should know that there are adults in the room”—matches a letter that Huntsman …

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    John Cole is right about the author of the Trump take down. Whoever wrote it is worst than Trump.

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-enablers-say-theyre-saving-us-but-theyre-just-looting-the-nation/
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  51. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    I understand most people here extremely hate (Israeli) Jews, but the whole issue is irrational: most Palestinian "refugees" are not that anymore, according to UNHCR standards. UNRWA definition of refugees & UNHCR's are different.

    Simply put, descendants of refugees are not refugees.

    At gut level, I'm not much involved. But, generally, I'm for Israel. They're mostly acceptable Kebab. Arabs are, on the other hand, unacceptable Kebab, with a few minor exceptions.

    Bardon. Piss off.

    You are ‘much involved’. You show up to shill for Jews far too often to pretend you have no stake in the matter.

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  52. renfro says:
    @renfro
    The coup is heating up. Some senior figure in the Trump Adm has vilified Trump in a NYT op ed.
    A newspaper publishing an op ed like this on a president is unheard of.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
    Opinion

    I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

    ''I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

    *The Times is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

    ''President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
    It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
    The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
    I would know. I am one of them.
    To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
    But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
    That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
    The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.
    Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.
    In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.
    Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.
    But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.
    From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.
    Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.
    “There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.
    The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.
    It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.
    The result is a two-track presidency.
    Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.
    Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.
    On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.
    This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.
    Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.
    The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.
    Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation
    We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.
    There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.''

    The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration>>>>>

    Jon Huntsman is said the be a good suspect in this.

    The Obvious Suspect
    Slate Magazine-7 hours ago
    Who wrote the anonymous op-ed against President Trump in Wednesday's New York Times? ... And the article's stated motive—“Americans should know that there are adults in the room”—matches a letter that Huntsman ...

    John Cole is right about the author of the Trump take down. Whoever wrote it is worst than Trump.

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-enablers-say-theyre-saving-us-but-theyre-just-looting-the-nation/

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  53. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man
    Nah, he's being sarcastic as are you.
    I take this out of the New Testament; John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    I wasn’t being sarcastic. Thus, you are the one lying. Now we all know the identify of your daddy. You have said it yourself.

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    Spell check.
    ...and Jesus saves.
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  54. snot says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen
    Israel will be just...Jews are.the most decent, moral people on the planet. They can do no wrong.

    you do sound like you believe…thats to say, you are contolled by the land based meat puppets usage of the oe supernatural celestial dictatorship!

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  55. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Frankie P
    An esxerpt from Hassan Nasrallah's most recent speech. Nasrallah is correct, for Hezbollah has God and righteousness on its side, and the Israeli's are wallowing in their guilt, materialism and narcissism:

    "Until a few days ago, as part of the (recent) maneuvers in the north (of occupied Palestine), a senior officer in the Israeli army –this is reported by Israeli newspapers, not myself– said: “Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, because it has this, this, this and that.” Of course, I do not agree with him on this estimate. We do not consider that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the Middle East after the Israeli army, but this statement expresses how the Israeli enemy sees this Resistance he wanted to eradicate during the July 2006 war.
    Today, in 2018, this Resistance is, as I have always said and repeated every year, and allow me to repeat it again today, and the important thing is that the Israeli enemy knows very well that it is the strict, the undeniable truth: yes, the Resistance in Lebanon today, in its arms, its equipment, its capabilities, the number of its fighters, its cadres, its power, its expertise, its experiences, its faith, its determination, its courage and its will is stronger than ever since its launch in this region (in 1982)!
    [Audience: At your service, O Nasrallah!]
    Certainly, Israel can threaten (us with war) every day. Remember, just weeks after the end of the July (2006) war, Israel threatened Lebanon with a vengeful war that was (supposedly) approaching fast. But you can count (the years of peace) with me: where is this war that Israel (continually) threatened us with and for which it asserted itself ready, having supposedly fixed all its shortcomings and faults, promising that it would shortly launch a new war against Lebanon? They threatened us (with war) in 2007, and 2007 has passed (peacefully). (Same thing in) 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, etc., until 2018. For 12 years, Israel has threatened us (permanently) to launch a war (imminently). But while they threaten to launch a war (against us), at the same time, they continue to evoke the fact that the Resistance becomes stronger (by the day) and that its (fire)power is increasing, until one of their officers said that Hezbollah is the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military.
    I want to tell him that we are not the most powerful army in the region after the Israeli military, leave this subject aside, because it is not precise, and we do not want to create problems (by competing) with the armies of the region. But let me say to that senior Israeli officer, on (the date of the commemoration of) the July (2006) War, that Hezbollah is stronger than the Israeli army! The Resistance in Lebanon is stronger than the Israeli army!
    For either in 2000 or in 2006, it was never a question of manpower, equipment, quantity, capabilities, weapons or rockets / missiles. Today we have more faith in the righteousness of our cause than you have in your false, usurping cause. Today we are more willing to sacrifice than your miserable army and society, living in worry with many problems and in many files. Today we have more faith and confidence than ever in our God, our Creator and He who granted us victory, ever since God the Almighty and Majestic created us. Today we have more faith, trust and confidence in His Promise of victory addressed to the patients and sincere fighters. This sincerity, this faith and patience, we have them more than ever because of the accumulation of experiences."
    "

    Is this a satirical sketch attempting to racistly portray Nasrallah as a verbose, ramblung Arab stereotype?

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    Tyrion,

    You and I both know that the situation between Lebanon and Israel has undergone a fundamental change, and the main points in the excerpt that I posted are true:

    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.
    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.
    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter's victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.
    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah.
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  56. @Z-man

    If Trump with his Jewish son in law are in full compliance with AIPAC, why CNN, New York times and all other MSM who are owned by Jews are vomiting such unbelievable vitriol against him, and want to get rid of him.
    I just cannot ad 2+2 here.
     
    Let me 'splain it to you Lucy. (Grin)
    Donald Trump is the least political man to win the office of POTUS (in the modern era anyway). He owes little to The Cabal that almost completely runs Washington and the media as opposed to the rest of the whores (politicians) that have been elected who owe their entire existence to 'them'. Now, even though he has been a good Zionist lackey, since 'they' don't have complete control of him they are not completely happy (nervous) with the situation and want him removed/destroyed. They want total submission.
    To his credit, Donald has been very clever (one can say brilliant) in playing off some Satanists against others, while still promoting a mostly 'America First' agenda (except Israhell of course). People like that rodent Alan Dershowitz have come to his defense mostly because of his (Trump's) slavish support of The Zionist Entity. But in reality all that Trump has given to the Zionists so far is recognizing Jerusalem as its capitol with final status still to be resolved which are the same issues that have existed for 70 years. His son in law might try to push for a more pro Zionist final status agreement but that we will have to see.
    The Cabal doesn't want friendship they want total obedience and with Donald they feel they won't get that (too uncontrollable).

    I mostly agree with The Z-man. The Cabal wants BOTH 100% control of Washington and 100% support for Israel.

    Their recent experience with the empty suit Obama, taught them that they can have both. They got strong control of Washington and much better support for Israel via ongoing Neocon style disruption of the Middle East (see the withdrawal from Iraq and the resulting rise of the ISIS caliphate, the destruction of Libya and the attempted destruction of Egypt and Syria).

    With Trump, all they got was Jerusalem (which is not really meaningful in any strategic sense) and they lost much of their control over Washington. They want another Neocon war (ideally support for a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Syria), but Trump is not going to give that to them.

    What Trump is going to give The Cabal (I believe) is a “greater Israel” with the Palestinians left with Gaza only and permanent underclass status in neighboring countries. The Cabal of course will want more.

    The question is “what will The Cabal do when Trump is gone”? By 2024, the Dems will be wholly captured by the leftist coalition of the NAMs who are anti-Zionists. My expectation is that there will be a rapprochement between the Neocons and the Republican party. And once again the 60-70% of the American people who want “America First” will no longer have a party that represents their interests.

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  57. Frankie P says: • Website
    @Tyrion 2
    Is this a satirical sketch attempting to racistly portray Nasrallah as a verbose, ramblung Arab stereotype?

    Tyrion,

    You and I both know that the situation between Lebanon and Israel has undergone a fundamental change, and the main points in the excerpt that I posted are true:

    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.
    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.
    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter’s victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.
    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah.

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    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.
     
    Yes and he did obviously speak hyperbolically.

    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.
     
    Resistance to what? There's no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.

    Hezbollah only fight ISIS and Al Qaeda, and whatever mad nonsense you read here, you must know that Israel is quite happy watching those two organisations get shot to pieces.


    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter’s victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.
     
    Actually, Hezbollah hasn't dared to give them a reason to.

    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.
     
    Jingoistic hubris. Thankfully Nasrallah is more sobre. See above.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah
     
    I'm too busy being surprised at being called a Nazi for saying that it is ok for British people to control Britain's border to look deeply at the anti-Semitism charge levelled at Corbyn.

    Nonetheless, I have enjoyed watching him being hoisted on his own petard of minority grievance. If he could just support the I-word...that is immigration moratorium, then I might be minded to speak up for that mindless misanthropic moron.

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  58. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Frankie P
    Tyrion,

    You and I both know that the situation between Lebanon and Israel has undergone a fundamental change, and the main points in the excerpt that I posted are true:

    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.
    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.
    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter's victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.
    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah.

    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.

    Yes and he did obviously speak hyperbolically.

    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.

    Resistance to what? There’s no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.

    Hezbollah only fight ISIS and Al Qaeda, and whatever mad nonsense you read here, you must know that Israel is quite happy watching those two organisations get shot to pieces.

    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter’s victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.

    Actually, Hezbollah hasn’t dared to give them a reason to.

    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.

    Jingoistic hubris. Thankfully Nasrallah is more sobre. See above.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah

    I’m too busy being surprised at being called a Nazi for saying that it is ok for British people to control Britain’s border to look deeply at the anti-Semitism charge levelled at Corbyn.

    Nonetheless, I have enjoyed watching him being hoisted on his own petard of minority grievance. If he could just support the I-word…that is immigration moratorium, then I might be minded to speak up for that mindless misanthropic moron.

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    Resistance to what? There’s no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.
     
    LOL!!! The Jooz want all of southern Lebanon as a buffer.*
    The thing is in a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    *LOL https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwMmi4avdAhUHnFkKHe_eCc0QwqsBMAB6BAgGEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaK9OgXRDXxs&usg=AOvVaw1ACzJBjLv26ospPQnGVsko LOL!!!

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  59. Z-man says:
    @Anonymous
    I wasn't being sarcastic. Thus, you are the one lying. Now we all know the identify of your daddy. You have said it yourself.

    Spell check.
    …and Jesus saves.

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  60. Z-man says:
    @Tyrion 2

    1. The Israeli senior officer DID say that Hezzbollah was the second strongest military power in the Middle East after Israel.
     
    Yes and he did obviously speak hyperbolically.

    2. The Hezzbollah resistance is stronger and more experienced than at any time in its history.
     
    Resistance to what? There's no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.

    Hezbollah only fight ISIS and Al Qaeda, and whatever mad nonsense you read here, you must know that Israel is quite happy watching those two organisations get shot to pieces.


    3. Israel has constantly threatened Hezzbollah since the latter’s victory over Israel in 2006; it is an annual empty threat, because Israel has not dared to do a f****** thing against Hezzbollah in Lebanon.
     
    Actually, Hezbollah hasn't dared to give them a reason to.

    4. Hezzbollah has far greater morale and spirit than Israel, because Hez believes in the righteousness of its cause. Hez has trained, experienced fighters, and as Israel showed in 2006, the Israeli reserves are wimps who would rather stay at home.
     
    Jingoistic hubris. Thankfully Nasrallah is more sobre. See above.

    I guess that Nasrallah is one of the big reasons that British Jews like you, suffering from their pre-traumatic stress at the hobgoblin of the non-existant anti-semitism
    in Great Britain, fail to make Aliyah
     
    I'm too busy being surprised at being called a Nazi for saying that it is ok for British people to control Britain's border to look deeply at the anti-Semitism charge levelled at Corbyn.

    Nonetheless, I have enjoyed watching him being hoisted on his own petard of minority grievance. If he could just support the I-word...that is immigration moratorium, then I might be minded to speak up for that mindless misanthropic moron.

    Resistance to what? There’s no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.

    LOL!!! The Jooz want all of southern Lebanon as a buffer.*
    The thing is in a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    *LOL https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwMmi4avdAhUHnFkKHe_eCc0QwqsBMAB6BAgGEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaK9OgXRDXxs&usg=AOvVaw1ACzJBjLv26ospPQnGVsko LOL!!!

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    I assume you're a silly Middle Easterner. People are so delusional here. One cannot even describe it.
    , @Karl
    60 Z-man > a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    we'll make sure that our ally Saudi Arabia, will grab them all. After all, the Saudis did pay for them
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  61. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Z-man

    Resistance to what? There’s no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.
     
    LOL!!! The Jooz want all of southern Lebanon as a buffer.*
    The thing is in a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    *LOL https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwMmi4avdAhUHnFkKHe_eCc0QwqsBMAB6BAgGEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaK9OgXRDXxs&usg=AOvVaw1ACzJBjLv26ospPQnGVsko LOL!!!

    I assume you’re a silly Middle Easterner. People are so delusional here. One cannot even describe it.

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    Far from it Herschel, neither Middle Easterner or delusional.
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  62. Z-man says:
    @Tyrion 2
    I assume you're a silly Middle Easterner. People are so delusional here. One cannot even describe it.

    Far from it Herschel, neither Middle Easterner or delusional.

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    It should be "nor" not "or".
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  63. anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    According to the "Palestinians" themselves, some 700,000 people left the territory of current Israel in 1948. (The real number was likely somewhat lower.) Both push and pull factors prompted the exodus. Almost all were Jordanian citizens.

    Now, 70 years later, this population has multiplied to 5,000,000, many still living in cargo cult squalor on our dime.

    Meanwhile, millions of Europeans and Asians (Poles, "ethnic Germans," Czecho-Slovaks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian Dutch, Indians during Partition, etc.) displaced during and after WW II had to make a new life for themselves under precarious conditions. Somehow, most members of these displaced populations made a new life for themselves without the tender mercies of a corrupt UNRWA bureaucracy.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough.

    Well said, Anon368. The Palestinian “refugees” need to grow up and stop being victims, something that can be said for the various Democrat “victim” groups as well.

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  64. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Z-man
    Far from it Herschel, neither Middle Easterner or delusional.

    It should be “nor” not “or”.

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  65. skrik says:
    @Anonymous
    According to the "Palestinians" themselves, some 700,000 people left the territory of current Israel in 1948. (The real number was likely somewhat lower.) Both push and pull factors prompted the exodus. Almost all were Jordanian citizens.

    Now, 70 years later, this population has multiplied to 5,000,000, many still living in cargo cult squalor on our dime.

    Meanwhile, millions of Europeans and Asians (Poles, "ethnic Germans," Czecho-Slovaks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian Dutch, Indians during Partition, etc.) displaced during and after WW II had to make a new life for themselves under precarious conditions. Somehow, most members of these displaced populations made a new life for themselves without the tender mercies of a corrupt UNRWA bureaucracy.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough

    RoR+R*3 = Right of Return + Revest, Reparations and Reconciliation – it’s the law. The illegitimate entity squats on land that belongs to the native-to-Palestine ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers, ‘funnily’ enough, true Semites. That land has been improperly alienated and will never belong to the invading by stealth self-converted aliens = fake Judaics. IF they ever wish to join the human race THEN they should vacate and return whence they came, or to somewhere – anywhere – they may actually be ‘welcome’ – but NIMBY!

    Ben-Gurion: “We must see the situation for what it is. … we are the attackers and the Arabs are those defending themselves. They are living in the country and own the land, …”

    Those who support criminals make themselves accessories to the crimes [here 'supreme international'] and therefore assume part-guilt for the vicious, murdering ethnic cleansing – which continues into the current moment. Be ashamed. Pariah.

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  66. Karl says:
    @Z-man

    Resistance to what? There’s no overlap between where the Israelis are and where Hezbollah are.
     
    LOL!!! The Jooz want all of southern Lebanon as a buffer.*
    The thing is in a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    *LOL https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwijwMmi4avdAhUHnFkKHe_eCc0QwqsBMAB6BAgGEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaK9OgXRDXxs&usg=AOvVaw1ACzJBjLv26ospPQnGVsko LOL!!!

    60 Z-man > a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    we’ll make sure that our ally Saudi Arabia, will grab them all. After all, the Saudis did pay for them

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    LOL!!! The Saudis can't even beat the mostly defenseless Houthis.
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  67. Z-man says:
    @Karl
    60 Z-man > a few years Pakistan will perfect their ballistic missile capability, what will the Zionist Beast do then?

    we'll make sure that our ally Saudi Arabia, will grab them all. After all, the Saudis did pay for them

    LOL!!! The Saudis can’t even beat the mostly defenseless Houthis.

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  68. renfro says:
    @Anonymous
    According to the "Palestinians" themselves, some 700,000 people left the territory of current Israel in 1948. (The real number was likely somewhat lower.) Both push and pull factors prompted the exodus. Almost all were Jordanian citizens.

    Now, 70 years later, this population has multiplied to 5,000,000, many still living in cargo cult squalor on our dime.

    Meanwhile, millions of Europeans and Asians (Poles, "ethnic Germans," Czecho-Slovaks, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian Dutch, Indians during Partition, etc.) displaced during and after WW II had to make a new life for themselves under precarious conditions. Somehow, most members of these displaced populations made a new life for themselves without the tender mercies of a corrupt UNRWA bureaucracy.

    Three generations of shiftlessness is enough.

    Palestinians fleeing their homeland
    UNRWA Photo Archive. Click for more pictures.

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