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According to the Chinese zodiac, 2017 has been the Year of the Rooster. Myself, I’ve decided to designate it the Year of the Headless Liberal Chicken. I don’t mean that to be insulting … or, all right, I guess I do, a little. But my heart goes out to liberals, seriously. At this point, the amount of utterly baseless, contradictory propaganda, mass hysteria, and just flat out insanity the ruling classes have demanded they swallow is more than any human mind, no matter how medicated, could possibly handle. Is it any wonder so many of them of lost it and started seeing Nazis and Russians coming out of the woodwork? Just consider what the average liberal has been forced to try to cognitively reconcile since the tragic events of last November …

First came the overwhelming shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Trump, a repulsive, word salad-babbling buffoon with absolutely no political experience who the media had been portraying to liberals as the Second Coming of Adolf Hitler. This was a candidate, let’s recall, who jabbered about building a “beautiful wall” to protect us from the hordes of “Mexican rapists” and other “bad hombres” who were invading America, and who had boasted about grabbing women “by the pussy” like a prepubescent 6th grade boy. While he had served as a perfect foil for Clinton, and had provided hours of entertainment in a comic book villain kind of way, the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency was inconceivable in the minds of liberals. So, when it happened, it was like the Martians had invaded.

Mass hysteria gripped the nation. There was beaucoup wailing and gnashing of teeth. Liberals began exhibiting irrational and, in some cases, rather disturbing behaviors. Many degenerated into dissociative states and just sat there with their phones for hours obsessively reloading the popular vote count, which Clinton had won, on FiveThirtyEight. Others festooned themselves with safety pins and went out looking for defenseless minorities who they could “demonstrate solidarity” with. Owen Jones flew in from London to join his colleague Steven Thrasher, who was organizing a guerilla force to resist “the normalization of Trump” and the global race war he was about to launch, which “not all of us were going to get out of alive.”

In the weeks immediately following the election, the mainstream media inundated liberals with pronouncements of the advent of an “Age of Darkness” and the “Triumph of White Supremacy” over the beneficent values of Globalism. Yes, it was pretty much the end of everything. America was facing nothing less than a descent into “racial Orwellianism,” “Zionist anti-Semitism,” and “the bottomless pit of Fascism” itself. Liberals, who by then had dispensed with the safety pins, immediately set about terrorizing their children with visions of the impending holocaust, which would be carried out by the genocidal, racist monsters who had voted for Trump.

At that point, the media had been hammering hard on the Trump-is-Hitler narrative for months, so they had to stick with that for a while. It had only been a few weeks, after all, since The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and numerous other establishment publications, had explained how Trump was using special fascist code words like “global elites,” “international banks,” and “lobbyists” to signal his virulent hatred of the Jews to the millions of Americans who, according to the media, were secretly Hitler-loving fascists.

This initial post-election propaganda was understandably somewhat awkward, as the plan had been to be able to celebrate the “Triumph of Love over the Forces of Hate,” and the demise of the latest Hitlerian bogeyman. But this was the risk the ruling classes took when they chose to go ahead and Hitlerize Trump, which they wouldn’t have done if they’d thought for a moment that he had a chance of actually winning the election. That’s the tricky thing about Hitlerizing people. You need to be able to kill them, eventually. If you don’t, when they turn out not to be Hitler, your narrative kind of falls apart, and the people you’ve fear-mongered into a frenzy of frothing, self-righteous fake-Hitler-hatred end up feeling like a bunch of dupes who’ll believe anything the government tells them. This is why, normally, you only Hitlerize foreign despots you can kill with impunity. This is Hitlerization 101 stuff, which the ruling classes ignored in this case, which the left poor liberals terrified that Trump was actually going to start building Trump-branded death camps and rounding up the Jews.

Fortunately, just in the nick of time, the ruling classes and their media mouthpieces rolled out the Russian Propaganda story. The Washington Post (whose owner’s multimillion dollar deal with the CIA, of course, has absolutely no effect on the quality of its professional journalism) led the charge with this McCarthyite smear job, legitimizing the baseless allegations of some random website and a think tank staffed by charlatans like this “Russia expert,” who appears not to speak a word of Russian or have any other “Russia expert” credentials, but is available both for television and Senate Intelligence Committee appearances. Numerous similar smear pieces followed. Liberals breathed a big sigh of relief … that Hitler business had been getting kind of scary. How long can you go, after all, with Hitler stumbling around the White House before somebody has to go in there and shoot him?

In any event, by January, the media were playing down the Hitler stuff and going balls-out on the “Russiagate” story. According to The Washington Post (which, let’s remember, is a serious newspaper, as opposed to a propaganda organ of the so-called US “Intelligence Community”), not only had the Russians “hacked” the election, but they had hacked the Vermont power grid! Editorialists at The New York Times were declaring that Trump “had been appointed by Putin,” and that the USA was now “at war” with Russia. This was also around the time when liberals first learned of the Trump-Russia Dossier, which detailed how Putin was blackmailing Trump with a video the FSB had shot of Trump and a bunch of Russian hookers peeing on a bed in a Moscow hotel in which Obama had allegedly slept.

This nonsense was reported completely straight-faced, and thus liberals were forced to take it seriously. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they suffered. It was like that scene in 1984 when the Party abruptly switches enemies, and the war with Eurasia becomes the war with Eastasia. Suddenly, Trump wasn’t Hitler anymore. Now he was a Russian sleeper agent who Putin had been blackmailing into destroying democracy with this incriminating “golden showers” video. Putin had presumably been “running” Trump since Trump’s visit to Russia in 2013 to hobnob with “Russia-linked” Russian businessmen and attend the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. During the ensuing partying, Trump must have gotten loaded on Diet Coke and gotten carried away with those Russian hookers. Now, Putin had him by the short hairs and was forcing him to staff his Manchurian cabinet with corporate CEOs and Goldman Sachs guys, who probably had also been videotaped by the FSB in Moscow hotels paying hookers to pee on furniture, or performing whatever other type of seditious, perverted kink they were into.

Before the poor liberals had time to process this, the ruling classes launched “the Resistance.” You remember the Pussyhat People, don’t you? And the global corporate PR campaign which accompanied their historic “Womens’ March” on Washington? Do you remember liberals like Michael Moore shrieking for the feds to arrest Donald Trump? Or publications like The New York Times, Salon, and many others, and even State Satirist Stephen Colbert accusing Trump and anyone who supported him of treason … a crime, let’s recall, that is punishable by death? Do you remember folks like William Kristol and Rob “the Meathead” Reiner demanding that the “deep state” launch a coup against Trump to rescue America from the Russian infiltrators?

Ironically, the roll-out of this “Russiagate” hysteria was so successful that it peaked too soon, and prematurely backlashed all over itself. By March, when Trump had not been arrested, nor otherwise removed from office, liberals, who by that time the corporate media had teased into an incoherent, throbbing state of anticipation were … well, rather disappointed. By April, they were exhibiting all the hallmark symptoms of clinical psychosis. This mental breakdown was due to the fact that the media pundits and government spooks who had been telling them that Trump was Hitler, and then a Russian sleeper agent, were now telling them that he wasn’t so bad, because he’d pointlessly bombed a Syrian airstrip, and dropped a $314 million Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb on some alleged “terrorist caves” in Afghanistan.

As if liberals’ poor brains weren’t rattled enough, the corporate media then switched back to, first, the Russian Propaganda narrative (which they expanded into a global threat), then, the Hitler stuff again, but this time Trump wasn’t actually Hitler, because Putin was Hitler, or at least he was fomenting Hitlerism throughout the West with his legions of fascist hacker bots who were “influencing” unsuspecting consumers with their blitzkrieg of divisive “fake news” stories. Oh, yeah, and now Putin had also done Brexit, or Trump and Robert Mercer had, but they were working for Putin, who had also hacked the French election that he hadn’t hacked, or … whatever … this was no time to worry about what had or hadn’t actually happened. The peace and prosperity President Obama had reestablished throughout the West by incessantly bombing the Greater Middle East and bailing out his pals at the Wall Street banks was being torn asunder by Vladimir Putin, who at some point had apparently metamorphosized from a ruthless, former KGB autocrat into a white supremacist megalomaniac.

Right on cue, on the weekend of August 11-12 in Charlottesville, Virginia, where there had never been any history of racism, a “national gathering” of approximately five hundred tiki torch-bearing neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan types, and other white supremacists, many of them barking Nazi slogans, marched into the pages of history. Never before have so few fascists owed so much to the mainstream media, which showered them with overwrought coverage, triggering a national Nazi panic. Liberals poured into the streets, tearing down Confederate monuments, and otherwise signaling their total intolerance of the racism they had tolerated until a few days earlier. People named after Robert E. Lee, and horses named after General Lee’s horse, went into hiding to until the panic subsided. This was wise, as by then the so-called anti-fascists were showing up in force at anything resembling a right-wing rally and stomping the living Hitler out of Nazis, and Trump supporters, and journalists, and … well, anyone they didn’t think looked quite right. This totally preemptively self-defensive, non-violent type of violent behavior, naturally, shocked and horrified liberals, who are strongly opposed to all forms of violence that aren’t carried out by the US military, or the police, or someone else wearing a uniform. Unsure as to whom they were supposed to condemn, the Nazis or the Antifa terrorists, they turned for guidance to the corporate ruling classes, who informed them it was time to censor the Internet.

This made about as much sense as any of the other nonsense they’d been spoonfed so far, so liberals decided to get behind it, or at least look the other way while it happened. Facebook, Google, Amazon, Twitter (and all the other corporations that control the Internet, the media, Hollywood, the publishing industry, and every other means of representing “reality”) surely have people’s best interests at heart. Plus, they’re only censoring the Nazis, and the terrorists, and the Russian “fake news” disseminators, and, OK, a lot of leftist publications, and award-winning journalists, and anyone else espousing “divisive,” anti-American, or anti-corporate, “extremist” views.

Look, I know what you’re probably thinking, but it isn’t like liberals don’t actually care about fundamental liberal values like freedom of the press and speech and all that. It’s just that they desperately need the Democrats to take back the House and the Senate next year, so they can get on with impeaching Trump, and if they have to stand by while the corporations suppress a little leftist dissent, or, you know, transform the entire Internet into a massive, mind-numbing echo chamber of neo-McCarthyite corporate conformity … well, sacrifices have to be made.

This can’t go on forever, after all. This level of full-blown mass hysteria can only be sustained for so long. It’s all fine and good to be able to whip people up into a frenzied mob, but at some point you need to have an endgame. The neoliberal ruling classes know this. Their endgame is actually fairly simple. Their plan is to (a) make an example of Trump to discourage any future billionaire idiots from screwing with their simulation of democracy, and (b) demonize anyone deviating from neoliberal ideology as a fascist, racist, or anti-Semite, or otherwise “abnormal” or “extremist.” Their plan is not to incinerate the entire planet in a war with Russia. We’re not on the brink of World War III, despite how many Twitter likes or Facebook shares it might get me to say that. Yes, eventually, they want to force Russia to return to the kind of “cooperation” it engaged in during the 1990s, when it was run by an incorrigible drunkard and the Goldman Sachs boys and their oligarch pals were looting the country for all it was worth … but that has little to do with all this.

No, the corporate ruling classes’ endgame here is to reestablish neoliberal “normality,” so we can get back to the War on Terror (or whatever they’ll be calling it by then), and put this neo-nationalist revolt against neoliberalism episode behind us. To do that, they will need to install some sort of hopey-changey, Obama-like messiah, or at least somebody who can play the part of POTUS like a normal person and not sit around the Oval Office gobbling McDonald’s and retweeting racist memes by random British fascists.

The way things are going, that might take a while, but rest assured they’ll get there eventually. Now that Robert Mueller has proved that Trump colluded with Vladimir Putin by obstructing an investigation by Comey into Michael Flynn’s lying to the FBI about not colluding with the Russian ambassador on behalf of Israel at Kushner’s behest, the dominoes are surely about to fall. Once they all have, and Donald Trump’s head has been mounted on a spike on the White House lawn as a warning to any other potential usurpers, all this Russia and Nazi hysteria that has the poor liberals running around like headless chickens will disappear. Russia will go back to being Russia. The North American Nazi Menace, deprived of daily media coverage, will go back to being a fringe phenomenon. Liberals will go back to ignoring politics (except identity politics, naturally) and obediently serving the global capitalist ruling elites that are destroying the planet, and the lives of millions of human beings, in order to increase their profit margins. Sure, there’ll be a brief emotional hangover, once the adrenaline rush wears off and they look back at their tweets and Facebook posts, which in hindsight might convey the impression that they spent the better part of a year parroting whatever insane propaganda the corporate media pumped out at them, and otherwise behaving like Good Americans … but then, that’s what the “delete” key is for.

C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing (UK) and Broadway Play Publishing (USA). His debut novel, ZONE 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. He can reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

(Republished by permission of author or representative)
 
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  2. willem1 says:

    Great stuff! You need to get yourself a show!

    As they say, you can’t make this stuff up…..

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  3. El Dato says:

    This article needs an animated gif of a pink-colored, pulsating, rotating swastika.

    Meanwhile…

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  4. None of the people mentioned here are liberal in any of the many senses of the word.

    They’re progressive. Like cancer.

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    My take ...

    "Progressive" is a word that became popular in the early 20th Century to press socialist and communist agendas while not appearing to be socialist or communist. Nothing has changed.

    Rather than press a global worldview that would expose their ideological foundations, "progressives" do three things. They separate their economic agenda from their social agenda and otherwise mask them in the hope no one notices their origins, similar to the way that Angela Merkel masked her Communist social agenda as environmentalism.

    In the latter (Cultural Marxism), contemporary "progressives" try to damage the foundation of Western Civilization by attacking Christianity and the moral foundation that supports marriage, the family, and traditional, conservative sexual mores. The idea is that if you can convince enough people that sexual perverts and feminists are "normal" people, then marriage, the family, and the society they create are trivialized beyond recognition. The general collapse of moral standards, identify politics that puts everyone at each other throats, and the Marxist concept to intersectional oppression will then have successfully atomized the population into isolated, compliant individuals to ensure there is no organized opposition to their ideological agendas.

    The "progressive" social rot in Europe and North America is pervasive. Gabrielle Kuby (a German) has an excellent book that covers this as well as outlining the ultimate "progressive" globalist agenda: "The Global Sexual Revolution - The Destruction of Freedom in the Name of Freedom."

    The evidence is everywhere. This has become daily fare ...

    As one of the latest cameos in the war against Christianity and the family, the British National Health Service is surveying 10-year old youth to determine if they have gender identity issues.

    "The children are given the option of ticking a box to confirm which gender they identify with. Children can choose boy, girl, or other ...

    According to the Telegraph, parents have been told that the NHS survey helps healthcare workers and teachers develop 'better ways to understand and support' children who may be having gender identity issues.

    It has not been confirmed whether children struggling with their gender will be approached by either the healthcare or education system based on their responses."

     
    https://www.rt.com/uk/412687-nhs-trans-children-survey/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    Headlines:

    More Americans Turning To Witchcraft; Participation In Traditional Religions Declines ...
     
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/12/08/modrn-day-witchcraft/

    Headlines:

    'If homosexuality is OK, so is pedophilia,’ former Oklahoma City mayor tells TV show.
     
    https://www.rt.com/usa/412691-homosexuality-pedophilia-oklahoma-outrage/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
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  5. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The way things are going, that might take a while, but rest assured they’ll get there eventually. Now that Robert Mueller has proved that Trump colluded with Vladimir Putin by obstructing an investigation by Comey into Michael Flynn’s lying to the FBI about not colluding with the Russian ambassador on behalf of Israel at Kushner’s behest, the dominoes are surely about to fall.”

    Thanks, now I understand where Judge Napolitano is coming from.

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  6. Parbes says:

    Hilarious and superbly-written article, which nails everything on the head… Well done Mr. Hopkins!

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  7. That was enjoyable. Perhaps liberals might eventually join the battle against neoliberals. We can dream.

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    Perhaps liberals might eventually join the battle against neoliberals. We can dream.

     

    Ahja - but - - Hopkins has this ehe - narrative - - pinned down too:

    "It had only been a few weeks, after all, since The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and numerous other establishment publications, had explained how Trump was using special fascist code words like “global elites,” “international banks,” and “lobbyists” to signal his virulent hatred of the Jews to the millions of Americans who, according to the media, were secretly Hitler-loving fascists."

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  8. Miro23 says:

    This nonsense was reported completely straight-faced, and thus liberals were forced to take it seriously. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they suffered. It was like that scene in 1984 when the Party abruptly switches enemies, and the war with Eurasia becomes the war with Eastasia. Suddenly, Trump wasn’t Hitler anymore. Now he was a Russian sleeper agent who Putin had been blackmailing…

    I haven’t noticed this too much. Religions are full of bizarre stories that followers accept without any problems. They reinforce bonds with their Community. In fact the weirder the better – Holier than Thou.

    Religion and Democracy are like oil and water.

    Religion demands unquestioning conformity from believers, whereas Democracy encourages dissenting voices, so the real (cloaked) target has to be US Democracy (note how the Constitutional underpinnings are being kicked away).

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    And speaking of religions, that Hopkins repeatedly references the absurdly impossible 'holocaust' religion is very humorous and quite pedestrian.

    Yes, Hopkins in jest states that the unhinged left constantly warns of 'another holocaust' via Trump.
    Yet the hapless Pavlovian Hopkins still buys into a religious storyline that never happened in the first place. That could NOT have happened as alleged.

    Simply put, there was no 'extermination of 6,000,000 Jews & 5,000,000 others', there were no German homicidal gas chambers. Of course at the Nuremberg Show Trials, among countless absurdities, it was accepted that the Germans did have homicidal steam chambers.

    Perhaps Hopkins is unaware that Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
     
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    I enjoyed the video, it showed that Leftists are intellectually bankrupt
    , @Anonymous
    This kind of thing is usually money laundering or some other shady scam
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  10. Great powerhouse rant. Not sure if it is coming from the left or the right, but that’s fine. It captures the moment. However, you left out Pizzagate. What was that all about? I still think that the Podesta bros. were very, uh, hmmm. I guess no one’s going to invite them on the Sunday morning talkies to clear it all up. I do wish that Hillary would get the message and just recuse herself from public life. Her ship has sailed. If she thinks she has another chance to run in 2020, she’s just kidding herself.

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  11. Wally says: • Website
    @Miro23

    This nonsense was reported completely straight-faced, and thus liberals were forced to take it seriously. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they suffered. It was like that scene in 1984 when the Party abruptly switches enemies, and the war with Eurasia becomes the war with Eastasia. Suddenly, Trump wasn’t Hitler anymore. Now he was a Russian sleeper agent who Putin had been blackmailing...
     
    I haven't noticed this too much. Religions are full of bizarre stories that followers accept without any problems. They reinforce bonds with their Community. In fact the weirder the better - Holier than Thou.

    Religion and Democracy are like oil and water.

    Religion demands unquestioning conformity from believers, whereas Democracy encourages dissenting voices, so the real (cloaked) target has to be US Democracy (note how the Constitutional underpinnings are being kicked away).

    And speaking of religions, that Hopkins repeatedly references the absurdly impossible ‘holocaust’ religion is very humorous and quite pedestrian.

    Yes, Hopkins in jest states that the unhinged left constantly warns of ‘another holocaust’ via Trump.
    Yet the hapless Pavlovian Hopkins still buys into a religious storyline that never happened in the first place. That could NOT have happened as alleged.

    Simply put, there was no ‘extermination of 6,000,000 Jews & 5,000,000 others’, there were no German homicidal gas chambers. Of course at the Nuremberg Show Trials, among countless absurdities, it was accepted that the Germans did have homicidal steam chambers.

    Perhaps Hopkins is unaware that Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869.

    [MORE]

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    • Replies: @Miro23
    It's true that the bulk of world Jewry lived in Central Europe since the Middle Ages and lived apart from Gentiles.

    Actually it was their emancipation that led to increased racial conflict, exploiting new opportunities for Jewish racial (patronage based) advancement .

    Apparently, the situation was causing big problems for Gentile professional and commercial classes prior the post WW1 economic collapses, with the focal point probably being the multicultural Austro-Hungarian Empire with its capital city Vienna (excellently described in Albert S. Lindemann's, “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews”. https://www.amazon.com/Esaus-Tears-Modern-Anti-Semitism-Rise/dp/0521795389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512546495&sr=1-1&keywords=Esau%27s+Tears%3A+Modern+Anti-Semitism+and+the+Rise+of+the+Jews ).

    Anti-Semitism turned from cold to hot under Hitler, although he favoured the removal of Jews from Europe rather than their liquidation. In fact, the German expansion into the East forced them all out, with key places like Poland becoming almost 100% ethnically Polish.

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    On the question of fatalities, the evidence seems to be, that about equal numbers of Gentiles (mostly Slavs) and Jews died in German concentration camps, with reliable sources such as the Red Cross, or pre and post war Jewish population comparisons, putting Jewish deaths from various causes at well under 1 million.

    The point is, that, many more Gentiles died in Hitler's war in the East, and prior to that in the vast Gulag work/death camp archipelago (set up and run by Bolshevik Jews).

    Also, the Gulag was carefully aimed at the heart of Russia (the educated middle classes).
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  12. How the past, the victor’s past, still rules the present I see again ‘Trump is Hitler’.
    That Hitler never wanted war, that FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour, in order to be able to wage war, it is all described in serious books, but nobody seems to read them.
    I often wonder if, had not FDR been crippled with polio, would there have been a WWII ?
    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.
    Then there is the question, had not the German empire began constructing the Berlin Baghdad railway, to be extended to Basra later, would there have been a WWI ?
    Alas questions like this can be asked, but never answered.

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    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.

    No doubt true. But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we'd now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.
    , @Logan
    FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour.

    In your world, what was FDR's reason for not having the battleships out safely on maneuvers, as the carriers were? The Japanese attack didn't have to destroy a large chunk of the Navy to get us into war, they just had to attack.
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  13. jim jones says:
    @Priss Factor
    Trans-Art


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea39dHj01yc

    I enjoyed the video, it showed that Leftists are intellectually bankrupt

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  14. @TomSchmidt
    That was enjoyable. Perhaps liberals might eventually join the battle against neoliberals. We can dream.

    Perhaps liberals might eventually join the battle against neoliberals. We can dream.

    Ahja – but – – Hopkins has this ehe – narrative – – pinned down too:

    “It had only been a few weeks, after all, since The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and numerous other establishment publications, had explained how Trump was using special fascist code words like “global elites,” “international banks,” and “lobbyists” to signal his virulent hatred of the Jews to the millions of Americans who, according to the media, were secretly Hitler-loving fascists.”

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  15. WHAT says:

    >muh kkkk neo-natzees and their ebil slogans
    >requisite fixation on torches
    >muh antifags showed dem kkk natzees

    As they say on neonazi white supremist site 4chins, opinion discarded.

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  16. Logan says:
    @jilles dykstra
    How the past, the victor's past, still rules the present I see again 'Trump is Hitler'.
    That Hitler never wanted war, that FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour, in order to be able to wage war, it is all described in serious books, but nobody seems to read them.
    I often wonder if, had not FDR been crippled with polio, would there have been a WWII ?
    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.
    Then there is the question, had not the German empire began constructing the Berlin Baghdad railway, to be extended to Basra later, would there have been a WWI ?
    Alas questions like this can be asked, but never answered.

    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.

    No doubt true. But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we’d now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.

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    But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we’d now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.
     
    It's a law almost, of which you seem to be the very rare exception, to use counter-factual scenarios to "safe" the world. I'd really be interested in an essay about this subject. Know of none. Could turn out
    a little Heideggerian - or Schopenhauery...
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  17. Jake says:

    If all literary awards weren’t chicken shit controlled by Leftist ideologues, then this would deserve a Pulitzer.

    Hopkins should write an American Master and Margarita.

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  18. Logan says:
    @jilles dykstra
    How the past, the victor's past, still rules the present I see again 'Trump is Hitler'.
    That Hitler never wanted war, that FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour, in order to be able to wage war, it is all described in serious books, but nobody seems to read them.
    I often wonder if, had not FDR been crippled with polio, would there have been a WWII ?
    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.
    Then there is the question, had not the German empire began constructing the Berlin Baghdad railway, to be extended to Basra later, would there have been a WWI ?
    Alas questions like this can be asked, but never answered.

    FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour.

    In your world, what was FDR’s reason for not having the battleships out safely on maneuvers, as the carriers were? The Japanese attack didn’t have to destroy a large chunk of the Navy to get us into war, they just had to attack.

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    I'm not a mind reader, especially not of someone who died early 1945, and of whom nobody ever knew what he thought, not even his own children, who had to make an appointment in order to see him.
    I just know the facts.
    These are
    1 that from the day he became elected he began to prepare the USA people for war, as the USA historian Beard writes, and FDR's friend Sol Bloom states in his memoirs.
    2 that FDR sabotaged the negotiations with Japan in 1941
    3 that he had to dismiss the commander of the Pacific fleet, who refused to place the Pacific fleet 'in the mouse trap Pearl Harbour'.
    4 that FDR had to jump over 50 promotion places to nominate Kimmel as commander who was willing to let the fleet in the mouse trap
    5 that the essential three carriers 'happened' to be on excercise when Japan attacked
    6 that the USA navy attaché in Batavia, then Dutch Indies, was informed by the Dutch authorities there that the Japanese fleet was on its way, that he sent two warnings to Washington with no reply, and got an answer after the third 'send no more warnings';
    7 that two former USA Navy intelligence officers stated on BBCW tv, when they were no longer bound to secrecy, 'that they followed the Japanese fleet, were ordered to report to one admiral, who was ordered to tell nobody'.
    8 that in the early hours on the Sunday of the attack it became known in Washington that an attack was imminent, that not the scrambler phone was used to warn Kimmel, but that a commercial telegram was sent, what reached Hawaii after the attack, as was known beforehand.
    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over.
    Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.
    But sinking scrap iron did make the desired impression on the USA people, as it does to this day.
    , @Wally
    So then what was FDR's reason for pulling the aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships from Pearl right before the attack? They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission.

    What is your explanation for the numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast who have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack weeks before the attack?
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

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  19. fnn says:

    Here’s the simplified version:

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    what a bullshit video.

    Jew Wolfenstein attempting to shift anger onto Blacks and divert from anger over what Jews/zionists have done to corrupt American and Christian culture. Jews have done this before: weaponize Blacks to fight, bleed and die on behalf of Jewish interests, then demean them and make Blacks the scapegoat.

    PLUS, your thesis depends on the propagandized version of 'Nazi,' not the reality of what National Socialism stood for. The propaganda version is more BS. Jews made it up.

    Points for subtlety, Mr. Negro race baiter, but quite honestly, knowing what I know about the corrosive impact of Jews on US culture, I'd much rather live among Blacks -- as I do -- than in a Jooie neighborhood. In fact, I had that choice: lovely little house, walk to a university and a park, but because it was less than a block to the synagogue, almost the entire block was Jewish. I talked to someone who lives on the block; he said the Jews don't talk to anyone who's not Jewish. He & his kids were isolated.

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  20. C.J. Hopkins’ comments are somewhere between stupid…and dishonest.

    The Democrats violently hate Trump because Trump has a large Native Born White American Male Voting Bloc that has been targeted for demographic elimination by the Democratic Party. And once Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris has been elected POTUS…the open and deliberate policy of demographic elimination of Native Born White American Males will pick up speed.

    Christian Russia is being targeted for elimination by the Democratic Party also. Russia has responded to the Bill Clinton-Jeffrey Sachs gang rape of Russia by doubling down on being Conservative Christian Russian and pro-natalist.

    Kamala Harris’s Secretary of State…Samantha Powers…will never allow Christian Russia to be Christian Russia. There will be an incident off the coast of Sevastopol between the US Navy and a Russian SU-30..bringing the planet to within a hairs-breath of Nuclear WW3…

    And there is the typical Counterpunch charge of NAZI!!!! against The Alt Right……So we know that C.J. Hopkins is an enthusiast for demographic extermination….CJ Hopkins can tell himself all the contrarian-radical-cool fairy tales about how the Alt Right will just fade away to his heart’s content…..but I can assure Hopkins that he is in for a rude awakening…..As is the next Democratic Administration.

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    And there is the typical Counterpunch charge of NAZI!!!! against The Alt Right……So we know that C.J. Hopkins is an enthusiast for demographic extermination….CJ Hopkins can tell himself all the contrarian-radical-cool fairy tales about how the Alt Right will just fade away to his heart’s content…..but I can assure Hopkins that he is in for a rude awakening…..As is the next Democratic Administration.
     
    Uh, it's a parody: one of the best I ever read. The rest of us are laughing.
    , @David
    You seem to be missing the spirit of the article, friend.

    I thought it was great. The actually entertaining use of language while saying something insightful and true reminds me of what Ilana Mercer wishes she could achieve.
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  21. wayfarer says:

    “Man. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.” – Dalai Lama

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  22. fnn says:

    It’s clear that FDR provoked Japan into attacking-whether he know they were going to attack Pearl Harbor is a more complicated question:

    https://mises.org/library/how-us-economic-warfare-provoked-japans-attack-pearl-harbor

    http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2011/12/06/did-fdr-provoke-pearl-harbor/

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    It was no coincidence that most of the vessels anchored at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 were obsolete or close to obsolete and the more modern (especially aircraft carriers) were on the float.

    He knew.
    , @Wally
    Not quite.

    1. Aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships were pulled from Pearl right before the attack. They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission. Coincidence?

    2. Numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack on PEARL weeks before the attack.
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

    3. Pearl was the only place an attack on the US navy would have been feasible, short of attacking San Diego.

    Either way, FDR knew what was coming and allowed it to happen.

    New Documents Show: Roosevelt colluded with Stalin
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11013&start=15
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  23. CJ Hopkins…….he ain’t no Cormac McCarthy….

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  24. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @fnn
    Here's the simplified version:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvawnWJZO0&t=6s&bpctr=1512997665

    what a bullshit video.

    Jew Wolfenstein attempting to shift anger onto Blacks and divert from anger over what Jews/zionists have done to corrupt American and Christian culture. Jews have done this before: weaponize Blacks to fight, bleed and die on behalf of Jewish interests, then demean them and make Blacks the scapegoat.

    PLUS, your thesis depends on the propagandized version of ‘Nazi,’ not the reality of what National Socialism stood for. The propaganda version is more BS. Jews made it up.

    Points for subtlety, Mr. Negro race baiter, but quite honestly, knowing what I know about the corrosive impact of Jews on US culture, I’d much rather live among Blacks — as I do — than in a Jooie neighborhood. In fact, I had that choice: lovely little house, walk to a university and a park, but because it was less than a block to the synagogue, almost the entire block was Jewish. I talked to someone who lives on the block; he said the Jews don’t talk to anyone who’s not Jewish. He & his kids were isolated.

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    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.
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  25. @fnn
    It's clear that FDR provoked Japan into attacking-whether he know they were going to attack Pearl Harbor is a more complicated question:
    https://mises.org/library/how-us-economic-warfare-provoked-japans-attack-pearl-harbor

    http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2011/12/06/did-fdr-provoke-pearl-harbor/

    It was no coincidence that most of the vessels anchored at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 were obsolete or close to obsolete and the more modern (especially aircraft carriers) were on the float.

    He knew.

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  26. TheJester says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    None of the people mentioned here are liberal in any of the many senses of the word.

    They're progressive. Like cancer.

    My take …

    “Progressive” is a word that became popular in the early 20th Century to press socialist and communist agendas while not appearing to be socialist or communist. Nothing has changed.

    Rather than press a global worldview that would expose their ideological foundations, “progressives” do three things. They separate their economic agenda from their social agenda and otherwise mask them in the hope no one notices their origins, similar to the way that Angela Merkel masked her Communist social agenda as environmentalism.

    In the latter (Cultural Marxism), contemporary “progressives” try to damage the foundation of Western Civilization by attacking Christianity and the moral foundation that supports marriage, the family, and traditional, conservative sexual mores. The idea is that if you can convince enough people that sexual perverts and feminists are “normal” people, then marriage, the family, and the society they create are trivialized beyond recognition. The general collapse of moral standards, identify politics that puts everyone at each other throats, and the Marxist concept to intersectional oppression will then have successfully atomized the population into isolated, compliant individuals to ensure there is no organized opposition to their ideological agendas.

    The “progressive” social rot in Europe and North America is pervasive. Gabrielle Kuby (a German) has an excellent book that covers this as well as outlining the ultimate “progressive” globalist agenda: “The Global Sexual Revolution – The Destruction of Freedom in the Name of Freedom.”

    The evidence is everywhere. This has become daily fare …

    As one of the latest cameos in the war against Christianity and the family, the British National Health Service is surveying 10-year old youth to determine if they have gender identity issues.

    “The children are given the option of ticking a box to confirm which gender they identify with. Children can choose boy, girl, or other …

    According to the Telegraph, parents have been told that the NHS survey helps healthcare workers and teachers develop ‘better ways to understand and support’ children who may be having gender identity issues.

    It has not been confirmed whether children struggling with their gender will be approached by either the healthcare or education system based on their responses.”

    https://www.rt.com/uk/412687-nhs-trans-children-survey/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    Headlines:

    More Americans Turning To Witchcraft; Participation In Traditional Religions Declines …

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/12/08/modrn-day-witchcraft/

    Headlines:

    ‘If homosexuality is OK, so is pedophilia,’ former Oklahoma City mayor tells TV show.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/412691-homosexuality-pedophilia-oklahoma-outrage/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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  27. Wellstone says:

    Its sad when people are so politically illiterate that they think Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, the Washington Post et al are ‘liberals’.

    Liberals tend to be anti-war. All of these people and groups are pro-war. So pro-war that they seem to be having a giant hissy-fit that they aren’t going to get the nuclear war with Russia that all of them seem to seek with such energy.

    Liberals tend to oppose Wall Street and the big banks. These people and groups are funded and financed by Wall Street and completely do Wall Street’s bidding.

    Liberals tend to oppose corporate power. These people and groups support corporate power. The Clintons led the way with their offer of “Rent the Lincoln Bedrooom and then a corporation can do whatever they want”

    Yes, I know the right-of-Reagan section of the Democrats has tried to redefine ‘liberal’ as applying to them. But that doesn’t make it any truer than the rest of the Democrat lies and deceptions. Just because Hillary calls herself a ‘liberal’ doesn’t mean she’s any different from the right-of-Goldwater Girl who first entered politics. Funny how the right seems to pick and choose which Hillary lies to accept and which to promote.

    If you want to listen to a real liberal, and thus see the difference, I’d suggest finding speeches of Henry Wallace (who should have succeeded FDR except for the manipulations of the pro-corporate and racist wings of the Democratic Party) and Sen. Paul Wellstone. I know real liberals are now banned from American media, but if you search them out and listen to them, you’ll quickly see how far Clinton, Obama, the Washington Post, Google and the rest of what the right-wing calls ‘liberal’ really are.

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    Liberal means that the US should be run by Lesbians, gays, homosexuals, and transgenders, negroids,
    And some Mexican drug dealers, all reporting to Aipac,
    , @yeah
    You are right about noting that the so-called liberals of today are not really liberal by the traditional definition of liberal; nor are they liberal in their pro-war support.

    However, the real question is this: what is behind this semantic topsy-turvy? Just careless language or something more sinister?

    One way to analyze this is as follows. Liberalism has always had a thing for changing the world and an obsession with political correctness. Born out of obsessive do-gooding wrapped in a cloak of politeness, it slowly degenerated into fanaticism - whose cloak is the fetishism about political correctness. Sloppy vocabulary leads to sloppy thinking, so gradually the liberals evolved from soft-heartedness to soft-headedness. Then, bingo! Soft-headed fools who believe they have superior ethics and purer hearts become easy targets for co-option by every possible group of rogues. Isn't this precisely what is happening today? Look at the positions that those who call themselves liberals and progressives take. Every agenda of theirs, every position that they take, benefits some bunch of rogues. No wonder the deep state loves the LGBTQ crowd; no wonder George Soros supports the liberals' crazy agenda for a borderless world - he knows fully well who will control it; and no wonder that the media supports every lunatic who calls himself a liberal - they know these folk will swallow every marble tossed at them. The Devil's very own, these fools are actually quite dangerous. They have wrecked the family, the nation, the economy, every sacred institution, everything worth living for. These are truly dangerous folks, these are no longer the woolly-headed bleeding hearts of the previous century. Can we not call them the illiberal children of past liberalism?
    , @RobinG
    "Its sad when people....think Hillary Clinton....et al are ‘liberals’."

    Also sad when they think themselves 'liberals' for supporting her. Chalk one up for Trump - and liberals - if the FBI investigation leads, finally, to her indictment. Encouraging -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezzrWwdrtxo
    President Trump Departs the White House en route to Quantico, VA. Dec 15, 2017. Washington DC.
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  28. Simon S says:
    @anonymous
    what a bullshit video.

    Jew Wolfenstein attempting to shift anger onto Blacks and divert from anger over what Jews/zionists have done to corrupt American and Christian culture. Jews have done this before: weaponize Blacks to fight, bleed and die on behalf of Jewish interests, then demean them and make Blacks the scapegoat.

    PLUS, your thesis depends on the propagandized version of 'Nazi,' not the reality of what National Socialism stood for. The propaganda version is more BS. Jews made it up.

    Points for subtlety, Mr. Negro race baiter, but quite honestly, knowing what I know about the corrosive impact of Jews on US culture, I'd much rather live among Blacks -- as I do -- than in a Jooie neighborhood. In fact, I had that choice: lovely little house, walk to a university and a park, but because it was less than a block to the synagogue, almost the entire block was Jewish. I talked to someone who lives on the block; he said the Jews don't talk to anyone who's not Jewish. He & his kids were isolated.

    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

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    Most people don't have a clue what Hitler was they just know what 100 yrs of propaganda has conditioned them to parrot.

    Why is it that >75 yrs post WWII, when evil things are being done by or w/ funds of USA, Hitler is hauled out.

    Is that so we don't have to confront the beam in our own eye?

    Read Douglas Reed. The Controversy of Zion

    PS You appear to endorse the blatant anti Black racism in the video. I don't
    It's bigotry plain and simple.

    NO Black person or organization ever drew my country into a war that killed millions & cost trillions.
    Jews have, incl WWII.
    , @fnn
    The site "loses all credibility" because of some of the commenters are nuts? The owner of the site is unusually tolerant and seems strongly opposed to censorship. But I can't find a specific statement of policy on comments.
    , @Carroll Price
    Name one thing you think you know about Hitler and the Nazis that wasn't drilled into your skull by Jewish owned Hollywood and the Jewish owned news media. Do yourself a favor and read Adolph Hitler's Mein Kampf in which he relates his 10 year struggle against Germany being taken over by the same Bolshevik Jews who, 10 years earlier, had taken over Russia.
    , @Rafael Martorell
    Super article
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  29. An amusing satire, but if Flynn’s evidence was scaring the daylights of Putin’s American supporters, nobody would feel the need for satire.

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    I think you meant to say the opposite.

    But please don't bother.
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  30. TheOldOne says:

    “I enjoyed the video, it showed that Leftists are intellectually bankrupt”; including the author.

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  31. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Simon S
    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

    Most people don’t have a clue what Hitler was they just know what 100 yrs of propaganda has conditioned them to parrot.

    Why is it that >75 yrs post WWII, when evil things are being done by or w/ funds of USA, Hitler is hauled out.

    Is that so we don’t have to confront the beam in our own eye?

    Read Douglas Reed. The Controversy of Zion

    PS You appear to endorse the blatant anti Black racism in the video. I don’t
    It’s bigotry plain and simple.

    NO Black person or organization ever drew my country into a war that killed millions & cost trillions.
    Jews have, incl WWII.

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  32. Concerning Russian experts.
    It is imperative for them to lean most important Russian proverb:
    Yob tvoju maty.

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  33. fnn says:
    @Simon S
    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

    The site “loses all credibility” because of some of the commenters are nuts? The owner of the site is unusually tolerant and seems strongly opposed to censorship. But I can’t find a specific statement of policy on comments.

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  34. @Logan
    FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour.

    In your world, what was FDR's reason for not having the battleships out safely on maneuvers, as the carriers were? The Japanese attack didn't have to destroy a large chunk of the Navy to get us into war, they just had to attack.

    I’m not a mind reader, especially not of someone who died early 1945, and of whom nobody ever knew what he thought, not even his own children, who had to make an appointment in order to see him.
    I just know the facts.
    These are
    1 that from the day he became elected he began to prepare the USA people for war, as the USA historian Beard writes, and FDR’s friend Sol Bloom states in his memoirs.
    2 that FDR sabotaged the negotiations with Japan in 1941
    3 that he had to dismiss the commander of the Pacific fleet, who refused to place the Pacific fleet ‘in the mouse trap Pearl Harbour’.
    4 that FDR had to jump over 50 promotion places to nominate Kimmel as commander who was willing to let the fleet in the mouse trap
    5 that the essential three carriers ‘happened’ to be on excercise when Japan attacked
    6 that the USA navy attaché in Batavia, then Dutch Indies, was informed by the Dutch authorities there that the Japanese fleet was on its way, that he sent two warnings to Washington with no reply, and got an answer after the third ‘send no more warnings’;
    7 that two former USA Navy intelligence officers stated on BBCW tv, when they were no longer bound to secrecy, ‘that they followed the Japanese fleet, were ordered to report to one admiral, who was ordered to tell nobody’.
    8 that in the early hours on the Sunday of the attack it became known in Washington that an attack was imminent, that not the scrambler phone was used to warn Kimmel, but that a commercial telegram was sent, what reached Hawaii after the attack, as was known beforehand.
    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over.
    Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.
    But sinking scrap iron did make the desired impression on the USA people, as it does to this day.

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    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over. Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.

    Not only did Churchill not understand this, mostly neither did anybody else. It took the early days of WWII to demonstrate the fact to all but fanboys like Mitchell.

    In hindsight battleships were obsolete in the early 40s. This was not obvious to all at the time.
    , @Simply Simon
    I'm old enough to remember Pearl Harbor, fourteen in 1941. I recall one gentleman at the time saying, "We'll lick those Japs in two weeks time" But JD is right, it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on. That the sightings were received but not acted upon changed the course of history dramatically--that goes without saying--but worth repeating. The fact so many lives were lost at PH and thousands more in a prolonged war with Japan barely made an impact on the conscience of the American people who went along with out sufficient protest with the insane wars that followed, you know, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan plus a few other skirmishes hardly worth mentioning.
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  35. Everything at the moment is loosing relevance.
    The only relevant subject for all 17 intelligence agencies is to select some country that should be pulverized in the name of progress of democracy.
    There are two prospective candidates Iran and Korea. Both these countries represent elevated risk considering consequences.
    I would recommend beat the hell out of Venezuela.

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    I would recommend beat the hell out of Venezuela.
     
    I nominate Israel.
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  36. @Wellstone
    Its sad when people are so politically illiterate that they think Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, the Washington Post et al are 'liberals'.

    Liberals tend to be anti-war. All of these people and groups are pro-war. So pro-war that they seem to be having a giant hissy-fit that they aren't going to get the nuclear war with Russia that all of them seem to seek with such energy.

    Liberals tend to oppose Wall Street and the big banks. These people and groups are funded and financed by Wall Street and completely do Wall Street's bidding.

    Liberals tend to oppose corporate power. These people and groups support corporate power. The Clintons led the way with their offer of "Rent the Lincoln Bedrooom and then a corporation can do whatever they want"

    Yes, I know the right-of-Reagan section of the Democrats has tried to redefine 'liberal' as applying to them. But that doesn't make it any truer than the rest of the Democrat lies and deceptions. Just because Hillary calls herself a 'liberal' doesn't mean she's any different from the right-of-Goldwater Girl who first entered politics. Funny how the right seems to pick and choose which Hillary lies to accept and which to promote.

    If you want to listen to a real liberal, and thus see the difference, I'd suggest finding speeches of Henry Wallace (who should have succeeded FDR except for the manipulations of the pro-corporate and racist wings of the Democratic Party) and Sen. Paul Wellstone. I know real liberals are now banned from American media, but if you search them out and listen to them, you'll quickly see how far Clinton, Obama, the Washington Post, Google and the rest of what the right-wing calls 'liberal' really are.

    Liberal means that the US should be run by Lesbians, gays, homosexuals, and transgenders, negroids,
    And some Mexican drug dealers, all reporting to Aipac,

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  37. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Everything at the moment is loosing relevance.
    The only relevant subject for all 17 intelligence agencies is to select some country that should be pulverized in the name of progress of democracy.
    There are two prospective candidates Iran and Korea. Both these countries represent elevated risk considering consequences.
    I would recommend beat the hell out of Venezuela.

    I would recommend beat the hell out of Venezuela.

    I nominate Israel.

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  38. Wally says: • Website
    @Logan
    FDR deliberately provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbour.

    In your world, what was FDR's reason for not having the battleships out safely on maneuvers, as the carriers were? The Japanese attack didn't have to destroy a large chunk of the Navy to get us into war, they just had to attack.

    So then what was FDR’s reason for pulling the aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships from Pearl right before the attack? They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission.

    What is your explanation for the numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast who have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack weeks before the attack?
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

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    The carriers were absent on maneuvers. Ships don't, or at least should not, just sit in port waiting for a battle. If they do, they won't be ready for a battle when it comes.
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  39. Logan says:
    @jilles dykstra
    I'm not a mind reader, especially not of someone who died early 1945, and of whom nobody ever knew what he thought, not even his own children, who had to make an appointment in order to see him.
    I just know the facts.
    These are
    1 that from the day he became elected he began to prepare the USA people for war, as the USA historian Beard writes, and FDR's friend Sol Bloom states in his memoirs.
    2 that FDR sabotaged the negotiations with Japan in 1941
    3 that he had to dismiss the commander of the Pacific fleet, who refused to place the Pacific fleet 'in the mouse trap Pearl Harbour'.
    4 that FDR had to jump over 50 promotion places to nominate Kimmel as commander who was willing to let the fleet in the mouse trap
    5 that the essential three carriers 'happened' to be on excercise when Japan attacked
    6 that the USA navy attaché in Batavia, then Dutch Indies, was informed by the Dutch authorities there that the Japanese fleet was on its way, that he sent two warnings to Washington with no reply, and got an answer after the third 'send no more warnings';
    7 that two former USA Navy intelligence officers stated on BBCW tv, when they were no longer bound to secrecy, 'that they followed the Japanese fleet, were ordered to report to one admiral, who was ordered to tell nobody'.
    8 that in the early hours on the Sunday of the attack it became known in Washington that an attack was imminent, that not the scrambler phone was used to warn Kimmel, but that a commercial telegram was sent, what reached Hawaii after the attack, as was known beforehand.
    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over.
    Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.
    But sinking scrap iron did make the desired impression on the USA people, as it does to this day.

    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over. Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.

    Not only did Churchill not understand this, mostly neither did anybody else. It took the early days of WWII to demonstrate the fact to all but fanboys like Mitchell.

    In hindsight battleships were obsolete in the early 40s. This was not obvious to all at the time.

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    I suppose FDR was either smarter than Churchill, already known for his Gallipoli disaster, or that FDR had better advice.
    In UK the Navy called the shots, neither the Air Force nor the Army was seen as important.
    Generals fight the last war, so do countries, I suppose, unless, as in the German case, they are denied building up the fighting forces of the last war.
    The V2 was the result of the prohibition on Germany to develop artillery.
    How Churchill was seen as an amateur in military matters
    Colonel Roderick Macleod, D.S.O., M.C., and Dennis Kelly, 'TIME UNGUARDED The Ironside Diaries 1937- 1940', New York, 1963
    Macleod was GB Army commander until shortly after the Dunkirk disaster.
    This part of his diaries is most interesting, most of his advice was ignored.
    FDR never interfered with weapons development, as far as I know, both Hitler and Churchill did.
    Churchill even more than Hitler.
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  40. Wally says: • Website
    @fnn
    It's clear that FDR provoked Japan into attacking-whether he know they were going to attack Pearl Harbor is a more complicated question:
    https://mises.org/library/how-us-economic-warfare-provoked-japans-attack-pearl-harbor

    http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2011/12/06/did-fdr-provoke-pearl-harbor/

    Not quite.

    1. Aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships were pulled from Pearl right before the attack. They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission. Coincidence?

    2. Numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack on PEARL weeks before the attack.
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

    3. Pearl was the only place an attack on the US navy would have been feasible, short of attacking San Diego.

    Either way, FDR knew what was coming and allowed it to happen.

    New Documents Show: Roosevelt colluded with Stalin

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11013&start=15

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    Do we need documents ?
    FDR in 1933 diplomatically recognised the USSR.
    USA ambassadors, most significantly a nephew of Morgenthau sr, were unwilling to recognise Stalin's thirties show trials as such, despite warnings from Kennan.
    Stalin's genocide in the Ukraine was also ignored.
    As to how from 1933 on the USA supplied the USSR with airplanes and air plane know how
    Franz Kurowski, 'Balkenkreuz und Roter Stern, Der Luftkrieg über Russland 1941 - 1944', 1984, Friedberg
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  41. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    C.J. Hopkins’ comments are somewhere between stupid...and dishonest.

    The Democrats violently hate Trump because Trump has a large Native Born White American Male Voting Bloc that has been targeted for demographic elimination by the Democratic Party. And once Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris has been elected POTUS...the open and deliberate policy of demographic elimination of Native Born White American Males will pick up speed.

    Christian Russia is being targeted for elimination by the Democratic Party also. Russia has responded to the Bill Clinton-Jeffrey Sachs gang rape of Russia by doubling down on being Conservative Christian Russian and pro-natalist.

    Kamala Harris’s Secretary of State...Samantha Powers...will never allow Christian Russia to be Christian Russia. There will be an incident off the coast of Sevastopol between the US Navy and a Russian SU-30..bringing the planet to within a hairs-breath of Nuclear WW3...

    And there is the typical Counterpunch charge of NAZI!!!! against The Alt Right......So we know that C.J. Hopkins is an enthusiast for demographic extermination....CJ Hopkins can tell himself all the contrarian-radical-cool fairy tales about how the Alt Right will just fade away to his heart’s content.....but I can assure Hopkins that he is in for a rude awakening.....As is the next Democratic Administration.

    And there is the typical Counterpunch charge of NAZI!!!! against The Alt Right……So we know that C.J. Hopkins is an enthusiast for demographic extermination….CJ Hopkins can tell himself all the contrarian-radical-cool fairy tales about how the Alt Right will just fade away to his heart’s content…..but I can assure Hopkins that he is in for a rude awakening…..As is the next Democratic Administration.

    Uh, it’s a parody: one of the best I ever read. The rest of us are laughing.

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  42. Svigor says:

    First came the overwhelming shock of Hillary Clinton’s loss to Trump, a repulsive, word salad-babbling buffoon with absolutely no political experience who the media had been portraying to liberals as the Second Coming of Adolf Hitler. This was a candidate, let’s recall, who jabbered about building a “beautiful wall” to protect us from the hordes of “Mexican rapists” and other “bad hombres” who were invading America, and who had boasted about grabbing women “by the pussy” like a prepubescent 6th grade boy. While he had served as a perfect foil for Clinton, and had provided hours of entertainment in a comic book villain kind of way, the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency was inconceivable in the minds of liberals. So, when it happened, it was like the Martians had invaded.

    The pussy grabbing is nothing the rest of the First Estate (AKA Big Media) doesn’t do on a routine basis. Trump’s only sin here was running against them in an election. If he hadn’t won the GOP nomination, that tape never would have been aired. It just would’ve sat in Big Media’s vault alongside the rest of the tapes that show the type of people who constitute Big Media.

    As for Mexicans, they have to go back. Except for the ones at your mom’s house, running a train on her. They can stay.

    Rest was TL;DR.

    Where do you find these shitbirds, Unz?

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  43. @Logan
    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over. Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.

    Not only did Churchill not understand this, mostly neither did anybody else. It took the early days of WWII to demonstrate the fact to all but fanboys like Mitchell.

    In hindsight battleships were obsolete in the early 40s. This was not obvious to all at the time.

    I suppose FDR was either smarter than Churchill, already known for his Gallipoli disaster, or that FDR had better advice.
    In UK the Navy called the shots, neither the Air Force nor the Army was seen as important.
    Generals fight the last war, so do countries, I suppose, unless, as in the German case, they are denied building up the fighting forces of the last war.
    The V2 was the result of the prohibition on Germany to develop artillery.
    How Churchill was seen as an amateur in military matters
    Colonel Roderick Macleod, D.S.O., M.C., and Dennis Kelly, ‘TIME UNGUARDED The Ironside Diaries 1937- 1940′, New York, 1963
    Macleod was GB Army commander until shortly after the Dunkirk disaster.
    This part of his diaries is most interesting, most of his advice was ignored.
    FDR never interfered with weapons development, as far as I know, both Hitler and Churchill did.
    Churchill even more than Hitler.

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    Churchill's interference was a main reason the Brits had tanks available when they did.
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  44. Svigor says:

    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

    Simon Shitsteen, Big Media extrudes plenty of product for you. Go there and consume it.

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    The more the people that criticize Hitler lose credibility the more Hitler gain credibility.
    Nobody worst than the USA political class killing droning woman and children's that did nothing to them.
    Nothing.
    And then went out and smile play golf and collect money.
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  45. @Wally
    Not quite.

    1. Aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships were pulled from Pearl right before the attack. They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission. Coincidence?

    2. Numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack on PEARL weeks before the attack.
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

    3. Pearl was the only place an attack on the US navy would have been feasible, short of attacking San Diego.

    Either way, FDR knew what was coming and allowed it to happen.

    New Documents Show: Roosevelt colluded with Stalin
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11013&start=15

    Do we need documents ?
    FDR in 1933 diplomatically recognised the USSR.
    USA ambassadors, most significantly a nephew of Morgenthau sr, were unwilling to recognise Stalin’s thirties show trials as such, despite warnings from Kennan.
    Stalin’s genocide in the Ukraine was also ignored.
    As to how from 1933 on the USA supplied the USSR with airplanes and air plane know how
    Franz Kurowski, ‘Balkenkreuz und Roter Stern, Der Luftkrieg über Russland 1941 – 1944′, 1984, Friedberg

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  46. The carriers were out on long-delayed, badly needed “training missions”.

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  47. @Simon S
    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

    Name one thing you think you know about Hitler and the Nazis that wasn’t drilled into your skull by Jewish owned Hollywood and the Jewish owned news media. Do yourself a favor and read Adolph Hitler’s Mein Kampf in which he relates his 10 year struggle against Germany being taken over by the same Bolshevik Jews who, 10 years earlier, had taken over Russia.

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  48. @Simon S
    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

    Super article

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  49. @Logan
    That without 1919 Versailles there never would have been a Hitler, there is little doubt about it.

    No doubt true. But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we'd now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.

    But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we’d now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.

    It’s a law almost, of which you seem to be the very rare exception, to use counter-factual scenarios to “safe” the world. I’d really be interested in an essay about this subject. Know of none. Could turn out
    a little Heideggerian – or Schopenhauery…

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    Quite right. If the CSA had won our civil war, or the Germans had won WWI, or Hitler had taken out UK, the world would be very different today.

    But I don't have a clue in what ways they would be different. Those who play these silly games assume that everything would have continued much as it did in the real world, only without the bad things they decry, when in fact there would have been second, third, fourth and so on order effects making the consequences utterly unpredictable.

    And, like I said, there is no particular reason to think things would not have turned out worse.
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  50. @Svigor

    While this site does have some interesting articles, it completely loses all credibility when you find out that the commenters who read this site think that Hitler was a moderate.

    What a truly nasty piece of work. At least its a nice reminder that such hateful, nasty, stupidity still exists in this world. And apparently finds a nice home at UNZ.

     

    Simon Shitsteen, Big Media extrudes plenty of product for you. Go there and consume it.

    The more the people that criticize Hitler lose credibility the more Hitler gain credibility.
    Nobody worst than the USA political class killing droning woman and children’s that did nothing to them.
    Nothing.
    And then went out and smile play golf and collect money.

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  51. Miro23 says:
    @Wally
    And speaking of religions, that Hopkins repeatedly references the absurdly impossible 'holocaust' religion is very humorous and quite pedestrian.

    Yes, Hopkins in jest states that the unhinged left constantly warns of 'another holocaust' via Trump.
    Yet the hapless Pavlovian Hopkins still buys into a religious storyline that never happened in the first place. That could NOT have happened as alleged.

    Simply put, there was no 'extermination of 6,000,000 Jews & 5,000,000 others', there were no German homicidal gas chambers. Of course at the Nuremberg Show Trials, among countless absurdities, it was accepted that the Germans did have homicidal steam chambers.

    Perhaps Hopkins is unaware that Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869.

    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
     

    It’s true that the bulk of world Jewry lived in Central Europe since the Middle Ages and lived apart from Gentiles.

    Actually it was their emancipation that led to increased racial conflict, exploiting new opportunities for Jewish racial (patronage based) advancement .

    Apparently, the situation was causing big problems for Gentile professional and commercial classes prior the post WW1 economic collapses, with the focal point probably being the multicultural Austro-Hungarian Empire with its capital city Vienna (excellently described in Albert S. Lindemann’s, “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews”. https://www.amazon.com/Esaus-Tears-Modern-Anti-Semitism-Rise/dp/0521795389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512546495&sr=1-1&keywords=Esau%27s+Tears%3A+Modern+Anti-Semitism+and+the+Rise+of+the+Jews ).

    Anti-Semitism turned from cold to hot under Hitler, although he favoured the removal of Jews from Europe rather than their liquidation. In fact, the German expansion into the East forced them all out, with key places like Poland becoming almost 100% ethnically Polish.

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    On the question of fatalities, the evidence seems to be, that about equal numbers of Gentiles (mostly Slavs) and Jews died in German concentration camps, with reliable sources such as the Red Cross, or pre and post war Jewish population comparisons, putting Jewish deaths from various causes at well under 1 million.

    The point is, that, many more Gentiles died in Hitler’s war in the East, and prior to that in the vast Gulag work/death camp archipelago (set up and run by Bolshevik Jews).

    Also, the Gulag was carefully aimed at the heart of Russia (the educated middle classes).

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    Not the main point. The main point is secret.
    , @Wally
    Thanks for the response, please red on.

    you said:
    "To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters. "

    Not so. Hitler had decided to delay the removal of Jews until "after the war". So obviously there was no policy of 'extermination' underway as is alleged.
    The Schlegelberger Document and the Luther Memorandum make that very clear.

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Schlegelberger/Schlegelberger42.JPG


    "Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers' opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party."
     
    In support of the Schlegelberger Document there is the Luther Memorandum:
    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/
    Hitler, the 'Final Solution,' and the Luther Memorandum,A Response to Evans and Longerich, excerpt:

    "On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.
    The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much."
     
    Join us. See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
    , @anonymous

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.
     
    It's necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism's leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai. Recall that Yahweh ordered Moses to command the Levites to kill their fellow Jews.

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  52. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    And then went out and smile play golf and collect money.

    Or go to synagogue and collect money.
    And from synagogue to US Congress and collect money.

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  53. David says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    C.J. Hopkins’ comments are somewhere between stupid...and dishonest.

    The Democrats violently hate Trump because Trump has a large Native Born White American Male Voting Bloc that has been targeted for demographic elimination by the Democratic Party. And once Hindu-Jamaican Kamala Harris has been elected POTUS...the open and deliberate policy of demographic elimination of Native Born White American Males will pick up speed.

    Christian Russia is being targeted for elimination by the Democratic Party also. Russia has responded to the Bill Clinton-Jeffrey Sachs gang rape of Russia by doubling down on being Conservative Christian Russian and pro-natalist.

    Kamala Harris’s Secretary of State...Samantha Powers...will never allow Christian Russia to be Christian Russia. There will be an incident off the coast of Sevastopol between the US Navy and a Russian SU-30..bringing the planet to within a hairs-breath of Nuclear WW3...

    And there is the typical Counterpunch charge of NAZI!!!! against The Alt Right......So we know that C.J. Hopkins is an enthusiast for demographic extermination....CJ Hopkins can tell himself all the contrarian-radical-cool fairy tales about how the Alt Right will just fade away to his heart’s content.....but I can assure Hopkins that he is in for a rude awakening.....As is the next Democratic Administration.

    You seem to be missing the spirit of the article, friend.

    I thought it was great. The actually entertaining use of language while saying something insightful and true reminds me of what Ilana Mercer wishes she could achieve.

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  54. @Miro23
    It's true that the bulk of world Jewry lived in Central Europe since the Middle Ages and lived apart from Gentiles.

    Actually it was their emancipation that led to increased racial conflict, exploiting new opportunities for Jewish racial (patronage based) advancement .

    Apparently, the situation was causing big problems for Gentile professional and commercial classes prior the post WW1 economic collapses, with the focal point probably being the multicultural Austro-Hungarian Empire with its capital city Vienna (excellently described in Albert S. Lindemann's, “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews”. https://www.amazon.com/Esaus-Tears-Modern-Anti-Semitism-Rise/dp/0521795389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512546495&sr=1-1&keywords=Esau%27s+Tears%3A+Modern+Anti-Semitism+and+the+Rise+of+the+Jews ).

    Anti-Semitism turned from cold to hot under Hitler, although he favoured the removal of Jews from Europe rather than their liquidation. In fact, the German expansion into the East forced them all out, with key places like Poland becoming almost 100% ethnically Polish.

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    On the question of fatalities, the evidence seems to be, that about equal numbers of Gentiles (mostly Slavs) and Jews died in German concentration camps, with reliable sources such as the Red Cross, or pre and post war Jewish population comparisons, putting Jewish deaths from various causes at well under 1 million.

    The point is, that, many more Gentiles died in Hitler's war in the East, and prior to that in the vast Gulag work/death camp archipelago (set up and run by Bolshevik Jews).

    Also, the Gulag was carefully aimed at the heart of Russia (the educated middle classes).

    Not the main point. The main point is secret.

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  55. Wally says: • Website
    @Miro23
    It's true that the bulk of world Jewry lived in Central Europe since the Middle Ages and lived apart from Gentiles.

    Actually it was their emancipation that led to increased racial conflict, exploiting new opportunities for Jewish racial (patronage based) advancement .

    Apparently, the situation was causing big problems for Gentile professional and commercial classes prior the post WW1 economic collapses, with the focal point probably being the multicultural Austro-Hungarian Empire with its capital city Vienna (excellently described in Albert S. Lindemann's, “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews”. https://www.amazon.com/Esaus-Tears-Modern-Anti-Semitism-Rise/dp/0521795389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512546495&sr=1-1&keywords=Esau%27s+Tears%3A+Modern+Anti-Semitism+and+the+Rise+of+the+Jews ).

    Anti-Semitism turned from cold to hot under Hitler, although he favoured the removal of Jews from Europe rather than their liquidation. In fact, the German expansion into the East forced them all out, with key places like Poland becoming almost 100% ethnically Polish.

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    On the question of fatalities, the evidence seems to be, that about equal numbers of Gentiles (mostly Slavs) and Jews died in German concentration camps, with reliable sources such as the Red Cross, or pre and post war Jewish population comparisons, putting Jewish deaths from various causes at well under 1 million.

    The point is, that, many more Gentiles died in Hitler's war in the East, and prior to that in the vast Gulag work/death camp archipelago (set up and run by Bolshevik Jews).

    Also, the Gulag was carefully aimed at the heart of Russia (the educated middle classes).

    Thanks for the response, please red on.

    you said:
    “To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters. ”

    Not so. Hitler had decided to delay the removal of Jews until “after the war”. So obviously there was no policy of ‘extermination’ underway as is alleged.
    The Schlegelberger Document and the Luther Memorandum make that very clear.

    “Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers’ opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party.”

    In support of the Schlegelberger Document there is the Luther Memorandum:

    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/

    Hitler, the ‘Final Solution,’ and the Luther Memorandum,A Response to Evans and Longerich, excerpt:

    “On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.
    The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much.”

    Join us. See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    Not so. Hitler had decided to delay the removal of Jews until “after the war”. So obviously there was no policy of ‘extermination’ underway as is alleged.
     
    There was no policy of extermination, but at the same time, all Jews left/were removed from Central Europe before and during the war. By 1945 there were none left.

    "As far as we're concerned, we've succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life." (180).

    "If I try to gauge my work, I must consider, first of all, that I've contributed, in a world that has forgotten the notion, to the triumph of the idea of the primacy of race. Second I've given German supremacy a solid cultural foundation." ... "I believe blindly in my nation. If I lost that belief we would have nothing left to do but shut up shop." (50).
    Hitler's Table Talk. Conversation Nº 180 4th April 1942, Nº 50 21st-22nd October 1941.
     

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  56. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny
    An amusing satire, but if Flynn's evidence was scaring the daylights of Putin's American supporters, nobody would feel the need for satire.

    I think you meant to say the opposite.

    But please don’t bother.

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  57. @jilles dykstra
    I'm not a mind reader, especially not of someone who died early 1945, and of whom nobody ever knew what he thought, not even his own children, who had to make an appointment in order to see him.
    I just know the facts.
    These are
    1 that from the day he became elected he began to prepare the USA people for war, as the USA historian Beard writes, and FDR's friend Sol Bloom states in his memoirs.
    2 that FDR sabotaged the negotiations with Japan in 1941
    3 that he had to dismiss the commander of the Pacific fleet, who refused to place the Pacific fleet 'in the mouse trap Pearl Harbour'.
    4 that FDR had to jump over 50 promotion places to nominate Kimmel as commander who was willing to let the fleet in the mouse trap
    5 that the essential three carriers 'happened' to be on excercise when Japan attacked
    6 that the USA navy attaché in Batavia, then Dutch Indies, was informed by the Dutch authorities there that the Japanese fleet was on its way, that he sent two warnings to Washington with no reply, and got an answer after the third 'send no more warnings';
    7 that two former USA Navy intelligence officers stated on BBCW tv, when they were no longer bound to secrecy, 'that they followed the Japanese fleet, were ordered to report to one admiral, who was ordered to tell nobody'.
    8 that in the early hours on the Sunday of the attack it became known in Washington that an attack was imminent, that not the scrambler phone was used to warn Kimmel, but that a commercial telegram was sent, what reached Hawaii after the attack, as was known beforehand.
    What was destroyed was scrap iron, the era of battle ships was over.
    Churchill did not understand this, the two battle ships sent to the rescue to Singapore, the Prince of Wales and the Repulse, were both sunk by Japanese aircraft, as they had no air cover.
    But sinking scrap iron did make the desired impression on the USA people, as it does to this day.

    I’m old enough to remember Pearl Harbor, fourteen in 1941. I recall one gentleman at the time saying, “We’ll lick those Japs in two weeks time” But JD is right, it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on. That the sightings were received but not acted upon changed the course of history dramatically–that goes without saying–but worth repeating. The fact so many lives were lost at PH and thousands more in a prolonged war with Japan barely made an impact on the conscience of the American people who went along with out sufficient protest with the insane wars that followed, you know, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan plus a few other skirmishes hardly worth mentioning.

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    it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on.

    Lets not get carried away here. The Japanese were operating under strict radio silence. The Pacific Ocean is big. The strike force never intended to bombard Pearl Harbor with artillery so (as far as I know) no large conventional ships such as battleships or heavy cruisers were part of the strike force. It consisted of 6 smallish (by today's standards) aircraft carriers and support and defensive ships plus the submarines which probably arrived well in advance.

    The US had broken the Japanese diplomatic and naval codes so probably did know something was in the works but it is not clear what they did know. The US would still have declared war on Japan even if the US carriers ambushed the Japanese carriers when their planes were attacking Pearl as happened at Midway. This would have been the best plan if you knew exactly what the Japanese were going to do and still wanted to get into the war. There was never any guarantee that Hitler would declare war on the US due to their pact with Japan since Japan did not declare was on the USSR to support Hitler.

    I think the farthest US scout planes could fly out and return was 800 miles which is the earliest you could detect them and it takes a fair amount of luck. The US had an embargo on Japan for their actions in China so there were no US merchant ships that would likely spot the Japanese fleet traveling that far north in the Pacific. There was little in the way of any shipping between the continental US and anything that might cross paths with the Japanese.
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  58. yeah says:
    @Wellstone
    Its sad when people are so politically illiterate that they think Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, the Washington Post et al are 'liberals'.

    Liberals tend to be anti-war. All of these people and groups are pro-war. So pro-war that they seem to be having a giant hissy-fit that they aren't going to get the nuclear war with Russia that all of them seem to seek with such energy.

    Liberals tend to oppose Wall Street and the big banks. These people and groups are funded and financed by Wall Street and completely do Wall Street's bidding.

    Liberals tend to oppose corporate power. These people and groups support corporate power. The Clintons led the way with their offer of "Rent the Lincoln Bedrooom and then a corporation can do whatever they want"

    Yes, I know the right-of-Reagan section of the Democrats has tried to redefine 'liberal' as applying to them. But that doesn't make it any truer than the rest of the Democrat lies and deceptions. Just because Hillary calls herself a 'liberal' doesn't mean she's any different from the right-of-Goldwater Girl who first entered politics. Funny how the right seems to pick and choose which Hillary lies to accept and which to promote.

    If you want to listen to a real liberal, and thus see the difference, I'd suggest finding speeches of Henry Wallace (who should have succeeded FDR except for the manipulations of the pro-corporate and racist wings of the Democratic Party) and Sen. Paul Wellstone. I know real liberals are now banned from American media, but if you search them out and listen to them, you'll quickly see how far Clinton, Obama, the Washington Post, Google and the rest of what the right-wing calls 'liberal' really are.

    You are right about noting that the so-called liberals of today are not really liberal by the traditional definition of liberal; nor are they liberal in their pro-war support.

    However, the real question is this: what is behind this semantic topsy-turvy? Just careless language or something more sinister?

    One way to analyze this is as follows. Liberalism has always had a thing for changing the world and an obsession with political correctness. Born out of obsessive do-gooding wrapped in a cloak of politeness, it slowly degenerated into fanaticism – whose cloak is the fetishism about political correctness. Sloppy vocabulary leads to sloppy thinking, so gradually the liberals evolved from soft-heartedness to soft-headedness. Then, bingo! Soft-headed fools who believe they have superior ethics and purer hearts become easy targets for co-option by every possible group of rogues. Isn’t this precisely what is happening today? Look at the positions that those who call themselves liberals and progressives take. Every agenda of theirs, every position that they take, benefits some bunch of rogues. No wonder the deep state loves the LGBTQ crowd; no wonder George Soros supports the liberals’ crazy agenda for a borderless world – he knows fully well who will control it; and no wonder that the media supports every lunatic who calls himself a liberal – they know these folk will swallow every marble tossed at them. The Devil’s very own, these fools are actually quite dangerous. They have wrecked the family, the nation, the economy, every sacred institution, everything worth living for. These are truly dangerous folks, these are no longer the woolly-headed bleeding hearts of the previous century. Can we not call them the illiberal children of past liberalism?

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    Soft-headed fools who believe they have superior ethics and purer hearts become easy targets for co-option by every possible group of rogues
     
    No. They become easy targets for co-option ONLY EVER by their fixed, all-powerful Controllers and the thousand disparate, masked, apparently unconnected organisations and movements they direct.

    Guess who ?

    Can we not call them the illiberal children of past liberalism?
     
    Pointless. I prefer to cut to the chase and call their Controllers the correct name instead.

    "Synagogue of Satan".
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  59. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23
    It's true that the bulk of world Jewry lived in Central Europe since the Middle Ages and lived apart from Gentiles.

    Actually it was their emancipation that led to increased racial conflict, exploiting new opportunities for Jewish racial (patronage based) advancement .

    Apparently, the situation was causing big problems for Gentile professional and commercial classes prior the post WW1 economic collapses, with the focal point probably being the multicultural Austro-Hungarian Empire with its capital city Vienna (excellently described in Albert S. Lindemann's, “Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews”. https://www.amazon.com/Esaus-Tears-Modern-Anti-Semitism-Rise/dp/0521795389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512546495&sr=1-1&keywords=Esau%27s+Tears%3A+Modern+Anti-Semitism+and+the+Rise+of+the+Jews ).

    Anti-Semitism turned from cold to hot under Hitler, although he favoured the removal of Jews from Europe rather than their liquidation. In fact, the German expansion into the East forced them all out, with key places like Poland becoming almost 100% ethnically Polish.

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    On the question of fatalities, the evidence seems to be, that about equal numbers of Gentiles (mostly Slavs) and Jews died in German concentration camps, with reliable sources such as the Red Cross, or pre and post war Jewish population comparisons, putting Jewish deaths from various causes at well under 1 million.

    The point is, that, many more Gentiles died in Hitler's war in the East, and prior to that in the vast Gulag work/death camp archipelago (set up and run by Bolshevik Jews).

    Also, the Gulag was carefully aimed at the heart of Russia (the educated middle classes).

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.

    It’s necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism’s leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai. Recall that Yahweh ordered Moses to command the Levites to kill their fellow Jews.

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    It’s necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism’s leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai.
     
    There was that aspect, but most Polish Jews were not planning on leaving. Poland was "Poh - lin" (Here we will rest).
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  60. Miro23 says:
    @Wally
    Thanks for the response, please red on.

    you said:
    "To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters. "

    Not so. Hitler had decided to delay the removal of Jews until "after the war". So obviously there was no policy of 'extermination' underway as is alleged.
    The Schlegelberger Document and the Luther Memorandum make that very clear.

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Schlegelberger/Schlegelberger42.JPG


    "Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers' opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party."
     
    In support of the Schlegelberger Document there is the Luther Memorandum:
    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/
    Hitler, the 'Final Solution,' and the Luther Memorandum,A Response to Evans and Longerich, excerpt:

    "On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.
    The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much."
     
    Join us. See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Not so. Hitler had decided to delay the removal of Jews until “after the war”. So obviously there was no policy of ‘extermination’ underway as is alleged.

    There was no policy of extermination, but at the same time, all Jews left/were removed from Central Europe before and during the war. By 1945 there were none left.

    “As far as we’re concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” (180).

    “If I try to gauge my work, I must consider, first of all, that I’ve contributed, in a world that has forgotten the notion, to the triumph of the idea of the primacy of race. Second I’ve given German supremacy a solid cultural foundation.” … “I believe blindly in my nation. If I lost that belief we would have nothing left to do but shut up shop.” (50).
    Hitler’s Table Talk. Conversation Nº 180 4th April 1942, Nº 50 21st-22nd October 1941.

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  61. Miro23 says:
    @anonymous

    To the end, Hitler regarded the removal of the Jews from Central Europe as one of his greatest personal achievements, and the Jews mirrored him, in viewing it as one of their greatest racial disasters.
     
    It's necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism's leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai. Recall that Yahweh ordered Moses to command the Levites to kill their fellow Jews.

    It’s necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism’s leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai.

    There was that aspect, but most Polish Jews were not planning on leaving. Poland was “Poh – lin” (Here we will rest).

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    but most Polish Jews were not planning on leaving. Poland
     
    Which is why the Jews who were calling the shots allowed Polish Jews to be done with whatever the fates decreed, all things considered, a more survivable fate than Exodus 32 --

    25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites** rallied to him.

    27 Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’” 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.”

    30 The next day Moses said to the people, “You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”
     

    ** Michael Ledeen considers himself "a proud Levite."
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  62. Logan says:
    @jilles dykstra
    I suppose FDR was either smarter than Churchill, already known for his Gallipoli disaster, or that FDR had better advice.
    In UK the Navy called the shots, neither the Air Force nor the Army was seen as important.
    Generals fight the last war, so do countries, I suppose, unless, as in the German case, they are denied building up the fighting forces of the last war.
    The V2 was the result of the prohibition on Germany to develop artillery.
    How Churchill was seen as an amateur in military matters
    Colonel Roderick Macleod, D.S.O., M.C., and Dennis Kelly, 'TIME UNGUARDED The Ironside Diaries 1937- 1940', New York, 1963
    Macleod was GB Army commander until shortly after the Dunkirk disaster.
    This part of his diaries is most interesting, most of his advice was ignored.
    FDR never interfered with weapons development, as far as I know, both Hitler and Churchill did.
    Churchill even more than Hitler.

    Churchill’s interference was a main reason the Brits had tanks available when they did.

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  63. edNels says:

    C. J. Hopkins: You usually write damned good stuff.

    In this case, I hope you take another stab at it, ’cause the title and header picture are worth the thousand words, the article could be shorter. Like a Haiku.

    That graphic is good. Hard to follow that with 2700 words.

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  64. MarkinLA says:
    @Simply Simon
    I'm old enough to remember Pearl Harbor, fourteen in 1941. I recall one gentleman at the time saying, "We'll lick those Japs in two weeks time" But JD is right, it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on. That the sightings were received but not acted upon changed the course of history dramatically--that goes without saying--but worth repeating. The fact so many lives were lost at PH and thousands more in a prolonged war with Japan barely made an impact on the conscience of the American people who went along with out sufficient protest with the insane wars that followed, you know, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan plus a few other skirmishes hardly worth mentioning.

    it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on.

    Lets not get carried away here. The Japanese were operating under strict radio silence. The Pacific Ocean is big. The strike force never intended to bombard Pearl Harbor with artillery so (as far as I know) no large conventional ships such as battleships or heavy cruisers were part of the strike force. It consisted of 6 smallish (by today’s standards) aircraft carriers and support and defensive ships plus the submarines which probably arrived well in advance.

    The US had broken the Japanese diplomatic and naval codes so probably did know something was in the works but it is not clear what they did know. The US would still have declared war on Japan even if the US carriers ambushed the Japanese carriers when their planes were attacking Pearl as happened at Midway. This would have been the best plan if you knew exactly what the Japanese were going to do and still wanted to get into the war. There was never any guarantee that Hitler would declare war on the US due to their pact with Japan since Japan did not declare was on the USSR to support Hitler.

    I think the farthest US scout planes could fly out and return was 800 miles which is the earliest you could detect them and it takes a fair amount of luck. The US had an embargo on Japan for their actions in China so there were no US merchant ships that would likely spot the Japanese fleet traveling that far north in the Pacific. There was little in the way of any shipping between the continental US and anything that might cross paths with the Japanese.

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    Yes, this is pretty much on the money, except that there were a couple of battleships (3rd Battleship Division comprising: IJN Hiei and IJN Kirishima), and a couple of heavy cruisers (8th Cruiser Division comprising: IJN Tone and IJN Chikuma) in the fleet but, even so, in the days before long-range radar any sighting would have been dependent on the human eyeball and (unlike further south) there are no islands in the North Pacific where spotters could be based and only the Seattle/Vancouver-Yokohama shipping lane to cross and...

    ...even though there couldn't have much traffic, if any, to or from Canada after more than two years of war against Japan's ally Germany (and Kriegsmarine raiders had been disrupting what Pacific traffic there was for a year and a half, although not so far North) nor, considering the US "sanctions" against Japan, between Seattle and Yokohama, the fleet would have had scout aircraft out during daylight hours to make sure there weren't any surprises over the horizon...
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  65. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    It’s necessary to stir the goals of zionism into the mix. Zionism’s leaders goals included the movement of all Jews to Palestine, a mass Exodus to the Promised Land.

    If Polish Jews or any other Jews preferred to stay behind, they would be considered the same as those Hebrews who worshiped the Golden Calf at Mt Sinai.
     
    There was that aspect, but most Polish Jews were not planning on leaving. Poland was "Poh - lin" (Here we will rest).

    but most Polish Jews were not planning on leaving. Poland

    Which is why the Jews who were calling the shots allowed Polish Jews to be done with whatever the fates decreed, all things considered, a more survivable fate than Exodus 32 –

    25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites** rallied to him.

    27 Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’” 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.”

    30 The next day Moses said to the people, “You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.”

    ** Michael Ledeen considers himself “a proud Levite.”

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  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    Trans-Art


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea39dHj01yc

    This kind of thing is usually money laundering or some other shady scam

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  67. I just can’t digest so much snark at one sitting. The article reads like the work of a liberal and makes so many hat tips to MSM memes that it just doesn’t really stick together. I’ll come back and try reading it again when I’m in a better mood.

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  68. Logan says:
    @Wally
    So then what was FDR's reason for pulling the aircraft carriers USS Enterprise, USS Lexington and USS Saratoga & their support ships from Pearl right before the attack? They were not needed anywhere, there was no mission.

    What is your explanation for the numerous US code breakers / message monitors along the west coast who have said that they intercepted Jap messages about the impending attack weeks before the attack?
    Their information was forwarded to FDR.

    The carriers were absent on maneuvers. Ships don’t, or at least should not, just sit in port waiting for a battle. If they do, they won’t be ready for a battle when it comes.

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  69. Logan says:
    @Dieter Kief

    But counter-factuals are funny.

    Those who look into the past to see where it all went wrong assume that if their particular bugbear had not miscarried, we’d now be approaching the sunny uplands of utopia.

    Whereas in reality we cannot know that we would not have wound up with something much worse.
     
    It's a law almost, of which you seem to be the very rare exception, to use counter-factual scenarios to "safe" the world. I'd really be interested in an essay about this subject. Know of none. Could turn out
    a little Heideggerian - or Schopenhauery...

    Quite right. If the CSA had won our civil war, or the Germans had won WWI, or Hitler had taken out UK, the world would be very different today.

    But I don’t have a clue in what ways they would be different. Those who play these silly games assume that everything would have continued much as it did in the real world, only without the bad things they decry, when in fact there would have been second, third, fourth and so on order effects making the consequences utterly unpredictable.

    And, like I said, there is no particular reason to think things would not have turned out worse.

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    No. 70 is an answer to your post, but I did not hit the answer button - now I do.
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  70. Heidegger had been on this trackk indeed – that the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth. Thing is: It’s an important thought. There might be a bias in the human mind for – you know: The blue skies, flowers, sex, babies etc.

    Fact is: Therefor it might be dangerous, to dwell too deep in the direction of – – – mishaps.

    The essay I wish for above should (could) mention: Faust (Goethes witty way with the dark & devilish toughts and actions of Mephisto – – -), as I said schopenhauer, Buddha, Christ, the Devil in the Blues music especially, Shiva and some recent findings: For example that pessimists (poeple a tad more on the depressive side) usually get the facts rigth, whereas the optimists – succeed (are performing in average better in real life!!).

    I wonder why – as far as I can see – nobody wrote this essay yet. – Ahh – JonathanFranzen thought pretty much in this direction in his recent Guardian-essay, which features (and by no means accidentally, methinks) lots of thoughts about depression and speaks at the same time about struggles, that arose from the fact, that his nature-loving opponents are factually wrong here and there (no proof so far, that climate-change did bring down the number of birs in the US) – but many a conservationist, saying exactly this – and smearing Franzen – – for being right about this – – – to be anti-nature…

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    You may appreciate this discussion of Wagner's Philosophy

    (of numerous videos on Wagner, this is one of the very few that does not focus on labeling Wagner a HitlerllikeNazilovinganitsemiteJewhater.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj4wKO_a56g&t=75s
    , @Logan
    the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth.

    Oddly, SM Stirling, to whom I referred previously, wrote an earlier series based on exactly this idea. What would the worst possible alternate history look like?

    His answer is a pretty good one. Not only do the Draka enslave and brutalize the rest of humanity, in order to do so they alter themselves to where they are no longer human in any real sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Domination

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  71. @Dieter Kief
    Heidegger had been on this trackk indeed - that the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth. Thing is: It's an important thought. There might be a bias in the human mind for - you know: The blue skies, flowers, sex, babies etc.

    Fact is: Therefor it might be dangerous, to dwell too deep in the direction of - - - mishaps.

    The essay I wish for above should (could) mention: Faust (Goethes witty way with the dark & devilish toughts and actions of Mephisto - - -), as I said schopenhauer, Buddha, Christ, the Devil in the Blues music especially, Shiva and some recent findings: For example that pessimists (poeple a tad more on the depressive side) usually get the facts rigth, whereas the optimists - succeed (are performing in average better in real life!!).

    I wonder why - as far as I can see - nobody wrote this essay yet. - Ahh - JonathanFranzen thought pretty much in this direction in his recent Guardian-essay, which features (and by no means accidentally, methinks) lots of thoughts about depression and speaks at the same time about struggles, that arose from the fact, that his nature-loving opponents are factually wrong here and there (no proof so far, that climate-change did bring down the number of birs in the US) - but many a conservationist, saying exactly this - and smearing Franzen - - for being right about this - - - to be anti-nature... ...

    You may appreciate this discussion of Wagner’s Philosophy

    (of numerous videos on Wagner, this is one of the very few that does not focus on labeling Wagner a HitlerllikeNazilovinganitsemiteJewhater.)

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    Thanks - interesting indeed!
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  72. @Logan
    Quite right. If the CSA had won our civil war, or the Germans had won WWI, or Hitler had taken out UK, the world would be very different today.

    But I don't have a clue in what ways they would be different. Those who play these silly games assume that everything would have continued much as it did in the real world, only without the bad things they decry, when in fact there would have been second, third, fourth and so on order effects making the consequences utterly unpredictable.

    And, like I said, there is no particular reason to think things would not have turned out worse.

    No. 70 is an answer to your post, but I did not hit the answer button – now I do.

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  73. @SolontoCroesus
    You may appreciate this discussion of Wagner's Philosophy

    (of numerous videos on Wagner, this is one of the very few that does not focus on labeling Wagner a HitlerllikeNazilovinganitsemiteJewhater.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj4wKO_a56g&t=75s

    Thanks – interesting indeed!

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  74. RobinG says:
    @Wellstone
    Its sad when people are so politically illiterate that they think Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, the Washington Post et al are 'liberals'.

    Liberals tend to be anti-war. All of these people and groups are pro-war. So pro-war that they seem to be having a giant hissy-fit that they aren't going to get the nuclear war with Russia that all of them seem to seek with such energy.

    Liberals tend to oppose Wall Street and the big banks. These people and groups are funded and financed by Wall Street and completely do Wall Street's bidding.

    Liberals tend to oppose corporate power. These people and groups support corporate power. The Clintons led the way with their offer of "Rent the Lincoln Bedrooom and then a corporation can do whatever they want"

    Yes, I know the right-of-Reagan section of the Democrats has tried to redefine 'liberal' as applying to them. But that doesn't make it any truer than the rest of the Democrat lies and deceptions. Just because Hillary calls herself a 'liberal' doesn't mean she's any different from the right-of-Goldwater Girl who first entered politics. Funny how the right seems to pick and choose which Hillary lies to accept and which to promote.

    If you want to listen to a real liberal, and thus see the difference, I'd suggest finding speeches of Henry Wallace (who should have succeeded FDR except for the manipulations of the pro-corporate and racist wings of the Democratic Party) and Sen. Paul Wellstone. I know real liberals are now banned from American media, but if you search them out and listen to them, you'll quickly see how far Clinton, Obama, the Washington Post, Google and the rest of what the right-wing calls 'liberal' really are.

    “Its sad when people….think Hillary Clinton….et al are ‘liberals’.”

    Also sad when they think themselves ‘liberals’ for supporting her. Chalk one up for Trump – and liberals – if the FBI investigation leads, finally, to her indictment. Encouraging -

    President Trump Departs the White House en route to Quantico, VA. Dec 15, 2017. Washington DC.

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  75. Crying with laughter.

    And weeping with grief, bitterness and murderous rage at the brain-dead, civilisation-hating, anti-White racist, Jew-controlled left-liberal-progressive cultural marxist filth, who wish to see the world of our future as backward and stagnant as a mental hospital, as childish and unreal as a kindergarten, as unrealistic, purposeless and impossible as a cartoon, and as dark, destructive and paranormally evil as a black mass.

    “What can I do with thoughts like these? What can anyone do with thoughts like these?” – Martin Amis

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  76. @yeah
    You are right about noting that the so-called liberals of today are not really liberal by the traditional definition of liberal; nor are they liberal in their pro-war support.

    However, the real question is this: what is behind this semantic topsy-turvy? Just careless language or something more sinister?

    One way to analyze this is as follows. Liberalism has always had a thing for changing the world and an obsession with political correctness. Born out of obsessive do-gooding wrapped in a cloak of politeness, it slowly degenerated into fanaticism - whose cloak is the fetishism about political correctness. Sloppy vocabulary leads to sloppy thinking, so gradually the liberals evolved from soft-heartedness to soft-headedness. Then, bingo! Soft-headed fools who believe they have superior ethics and purer hearts become easy targets for co-option by every possible group of rogues. Isn't this precisely what is happening today? Look at the positions that those who call themselves liberals and progressives take. Every agenda of theirs, every position that they take, benefits some bunch of rogues. No wonder the deep state loves the LGBTQ crowd; no wonder George Soros supports the liberals' crazy agenda for a borderless world - he knows fully well who will control it; and no wonder that the media supports every lunatic who calls himself a liberal - they know these folk will swallow every marble tossed at them. The Devil's very own, these fools are actually quite dangerous. They have wrecked the family, the nation, the economy, every sacred institution, everything worth living for. These are truly dangerous folks, these are no longer the woolly-headed bleeding hearts of the previous century. Can we not call them the illiberal children of past liberalism?

    Soft-headed fools who believe they have superior ethics and purer hearts become easy targets for co-option by every possible group of rogues

    No. They become easy targets for co-option ONLY EVER by their fixed, all-powerful Controllers and the thousand disparate, masked, apparently unconnected organisations and movements they direct.

    Guess who ?

    Can we not call them the illiberal children of past liberalism?

    Pointless. I prefer to cut to the chase and call their Controllers the correct name instead.

    “Synagogue of Satan”.

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  77. The real enablers of all this pure and simple mendacity are the Legacy Media (especially those posing as, or heretofore regarded as, “leftists”) and…

    …the (very few) exceptions that prove the rule also demonstrate the disorientating Alice in Wonderland quality permeating the whole affair, where down is up and left is right, and where Tucker Carlson (on FOX!!) apparently genuinely attempts to get at the truth and Rachel Maddow spends most of her airtime joining the dots in a totally evidence-free conspiracy theory (in the literal meaning of the phrase, not the CIA/CoIntel meaning) with the CIA, FBI and NSA in white hats and their KGB adversary, Putin, as kind of hybrid Dr Evil-Svengali, puppetmaster extraordinaire, with Trump as the puppet, and his administration as a “Russian Op” (yes, she said that!), etc & etc, but…

    …remember, the people we’re picking a fight with this time, unlike the Iraqis or Libyans, really have WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, and the means to rain them down on our heads so…

    …if we get out of this alive, these warmongering propagandists must never be allowed to live this down (unlike those who lied us into earlier wars and kept their reputations intact) and must be reminded of their lies every time they open their mouths to speak or dare to put their names to a piece of writing…

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  78. @MarkinLA
    it would have been impossible for so large a fleet as the Japanese naval force to assemble and sail far across the Pacific without being sighted and reported on.

    Lets not get carried away here. The Japanese were operating under strict radio silence. The Pacific Ocean is big. The strike force never intended to bombard Pearl Harbor with artillery so (as far as I know) no large conventional ships such as battleships or heavy cruisers were part of the strike force. It consisted of 6 smallish (by today's standards) aircraft carriers and support and defensive ships plus the submarines which probably arrived well in advance.

    The US had broken the Japanese diplomatic and naval codes so probably did know something was in the works but it is not clear what they did know. The US would still have declared war on Japan even if the US carriers ambushed the Japanese carriers when their planes were attacking Pearl as happened at Midway. This would have been the best plan if you knew exactly what the Japanese were going to do and still wanted to get into the war. There was never any guarantee that Hitler would declare war on the US due to their pact with Japan since Japan did not declare was on the USSR to support Hitler.

    I think the farthest US scout planes could fly out and return was 800 miles which is the earliest you could detect them and it takes a fair amount of luck. The US had an embargo on Japan for their actions in China so there were no US merchant ships that would likely spot the Japanese fleet traveling that far north in the Pacific. There was little in the way of any shipping between the continental US and anything that might cross paths with the Japanese.

    Yes, this is pretty much on the money, except that there were a couple of battleships (3rd Battleship Division comprising: IJN Hiei and IJN Kirishima), and a couple of heavy cruisers (8th Cruiser Division comprising: IJN Tone and IJN Chikuma) in the fleet but, even so, in the days before long-range radar any sighting would have been dependent on the human eyeball and (unlike further south) there are no islands in the North Pacific where spotters could be based and only the Seattle/Vancouver-Yokohama shipping lane to cross and…

    …even though there couldn’t have much traffic, if any, to or from Canada after more than two years of war against Japan’s ally Germany (and Kriegsmarine raiders had been disrupting what Pacific traffic there was for a year and a half, although not so far North) nor, considering the US “sanctions” against Japan, between Seattle and Yokohama, the fleet would have had scout aircraft out during daylight hours to make sure there weren’t any surprises over the horizon…

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  79. Logan says:
    @Dieter Kief
    Heidegger had been on this trackk indeed - that the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth. Thing is: It's an important thought. There might be a bias in the human mind for - you know: The blue skies, flowers, sex, babies etc.

    Fact is: Therefor it might be dangerous, to dwell too deep in the direction of - - - mishaps.

    The essay I wish for above should (could) mention: Faust (Goethes witty way with the dark & devilish toughts and actions of Mephisto - - -), as I said schopenhauer, Buddha, Christ, the Devil in the Blues music especially, Shiva and some recent findings: For example that pessimists (poeple a tad more on the depressive side) usually get the facts rigth, whereas the optimists - succeed (are performing in average better in real life!!).

    I wonder why - as far as I can see - nobody wrote this essay yet. - Ahh - JonathanFranzen thought pretty much in this direction in his recent Guardian-essay, which features (and by no means accidentally, methinks) lots of thoughts about depression and speaks at the same time about struggles, that arose from the fact, that his nature-loving opponents are factually wrong here and there (no proof so far, that climate-change did bring down the number of birs in the US) - but many a conservationist, saying exactly this - and smearing Franzen - - for being right about this - - - to be anti-nature... ...

    the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth.

    Oddly, SM Stirling, to whom I referred previously, wrote an earlier series based on exactly this idea. What would the worst possible alternate history look like?

    His answer is a pretty good one. Not only do the Draka enslave and brutalize the rest of humanity, in order to do so they alter themselves to where they are no longer human in any real sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Domination

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    SM Stirling's plot seems to develop pretty much according to a plan for a perfectly devilish world, which was pinned down by Johann Benjamin Erhard (1766 - 1827), a doctor and philosopher in Nürnberg (pupil of Kant), in his essay, titled "In Defense of the Devil". He said in this essay, that his intention was - and now, this goes to show, that he pretty much understood, what Kant was aiming at - ah: Erhard said, that the aim of his Devil-essay was to show, that the Devil was really "an idea" - and "not a chimaera".
    Erhard's main idea in this concise essay was, that something really bad would not be able to sustain it's own life, it would try to - destroy not only others, but also itself.

    Stirling might have had the same thought, and might have transferred it into the the transition of his main characters into something - technical.
    (Life = imperfection. Perfect idea = non-human).
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  80. @Logan
    the NAZIs were not necessrily the worst that can happen on earth.

    Oddly, SM Stirling, to whom I referred previously, wrote an earlier series based on exactly this idea. What would the worst possible alternate history look like?

    His answer is a pretty good one. Not only do the Draka enslave and brutalize the rest of humanity, in order to do so they alter themselves to where they are no longer human in any real sense.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Domination

    SM Stirling’s plot seems to develop pretty much according to a plan for a perfectly devilish world, which was pinned down by Johann Benjamin Erhard (1766 – 1827), a doctor and philosopher in Nürnberg (pupil of Kant), in his essay, titled “In Defense of the Devil”. He said in this essay, that his intention was – and now, this goes to show, that he pretty much understood, what Kant was aiming at – ah: Erhard said, that the aim of his Devil-essay was to show, that the Devil was really “an idea” – and “not a chimaera”.
    Erhard’s main idea in this concise essay was, that something really bad would not be able to sustain it’s own life, it would try to – destroy not only others, but also itself.

    Stirling might have had the same thought, and might have transferred it into the the transition of his main characters into something – technical.
    (Life = imperfection. Perfect idea = non-human).

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  81. Sowhat says:

    Trump and his advisors, contrary to the “progressives’” mantra, are stunningly brilliant. He never polished his language skills. We’ve had numerous others. I admit; I haven’t mastered mine, either. But, in the end, who really cares (except me- my self image shows)?
    Bush II was worse. He couldn’t look Presidential or talk Presidential and his face always showed his lies. Trump has more stage presence. He will say, “Watch and see.” and two weeks or a month later, sure ’nuff, he was right. He really does know how to Win.
    He let everyone know, up front, that he was going to use the “rope-a-dope” to hang out the MSM “to dry” his most Boisterous and hostile adversary, putting Hellery aside. Many “presidents” have had their confrontations with the MSM. This isn’t a big surprise. But, Trumps open and direct, vilifying comments regarding “fake news” whores is quite pleasant a show to watch. Because that are and always have been “the Fifth Arm” and Trumps is/has been telling them, “Kiss off! I don’t need you.” in this age of Instant-and-to-the-public-information-age. “I’ll communicate with the voter base and even with Foreign Heads of State and Sovereignties, directly and without the MSM.” I love it. Oh! It’s dangerous! Trump says, ” Get lost! I’ll do it a new and more effective way in which I won’t be mis-quoted or my words won’t be “spun.”
    I think he’s doing quite well considering most of his own “Party” and ALL of the other “Party.” were out to see him fail, from jump street (the beginning).
    Listen folks. The Presidency is a puppet. We all know that. Just sit back and enjoy the show. No one is pressing red buttons. Try not to be a fear-monger. We already have lots of them. The MIIC will do that without our voices.
    I do wish there was a little more Détente. I like negotiations and compromise. The “sword” is so ruthless…so many innocents get obliterated. But, we live in a nation that’s been a war for so long that some can’t relate to living without it. So that’s the way it is.
    As far as the RACE card is concerned, if there was no racism, we would be living in Utopia. It’s part-and-parcel of the human race. Black Brazillian hate jet-Black Brazillians. Come on. Quit making a big deal out of nothing. The ancestors of our Country’s Founders were the sons of the Greatest Empire in the History of the World and slave owners. There has been a slow move towards “humanitarian shackle-releases” but, my guess is that, as long as it’s in the genes, there will never be complete harmony and “one-ness” of humanity.
    Let’s continue to bicker and continue to watch the show. Shall we?

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