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Just when you thought the corporatocracy couldn’t possibly get more creepily Orwellian, the Twitter Corporation starts sending out emails advising that they “have reason to believe” we have “followed, retweeted,” or “liked the content of” an account “connected to a propaganda effort by a Russia government-linked organization known as the Internet Research Agency.” While it’s not as dramatic as the Thought Police watching you on your telescreen, or posters reminding you “Big Brother Is Watching,” the effect is more or less the same.

And if that’s not creepily Orwellian enough for you, Facebook has established a Ministry of Counterspeech, manned by “a dedicated counterterrorism team” of “former intelligence and law-enforcement officials,” to “disrupt ideologies underlying extremism” (see Chris Hedges’ recent essay for details). The Google Corporation is systematically disappearing, deranking, and maliciously misrepresenting non-corporate news and opinion sources, and the “thought criminals” who contribute to them. Meanwhile, the corporate media continues to pump out Russia paranoia propaganda like this Maddow segment on MSNBC about “the remarkable number of Russian financiers who’ll be rubbing elbows with the Trump team in Davos.”

These are just the latest salvos in the corporate establishment’s War on Dissent, an expanded version of the War on Terror, which they’ve been relentlessly waging for over a year now. As you may have noticed, the ruling classes have been using virtually every propaganda organ at their disposal to whip up mass hysteria over a host of extremely dubious threats to “the future of democracy” and “democratic values,” Russia being foremost among them, followed closely by white supremacy, then a laundry list of other “threats,” from Julian Assange to Bernie Bros to other, lesser “sowers of division.”

This propaganda campaign is part and parcel of the roll-out of a new “official narrative.” If it wasn’t so completely depressing, I would say it is awe-inspiring to watch. This full-spectrum type of mass indoctrination, or “reality adjustment,” doesn’t happen that often. It used to only happen on the national level, typically during times of war, when the ruling classes of nation states needed to temporarily unite their populaces and demonize their enemy. It is happening now on a global level, for the second time in the 21st Century.

The first time it happened on a global level was 2001-2002, when the War on Terror narrative was launched to supplant the defunct Cold War narrative that had functioned since the end of World War II. The End of History/New World Order narrative, which had served as a kind of ideological stop-gap from 1990 to 2001, never really sold that well. It was far too vague, and there was no clear enemy. The global capitalist ruling classes (which now reigned unopposed over the entire planet) needed a new official narrative to unite, not just a nation, or region, but everyone within the new global market. This narrative needed a convincing enemy that would function on a global level. “Terrorism” is that enemy.

In the official War on Terror narrative, the term “terrorism” does not refer to any type of actual terrorism (although of course such terrorism does occur) as much as to “terrorism” as a general concept, an essentially meaningless pejorative concept, one which can be expanded to include almost anything and anyone the ruling classes need it to … which is what is taking place at the moment. It is being expanded, rather dramatically, to include virtually any type of dissent from global capitalist ideology. In order to understand what’s happening, we need to understand how terms like “terrorism” and “extremism” function ideologically, not just as terms to dehumanize “bad guys” but to designate a type of ur-antagonist, one that conforms to the official narrative. So let’s take a few minutes and try to do that.

The key to understanding both the original War on Terror official narrative and the expanded variation we are being sold currently is the fact that terrorism is an insurgent tactic employed by weaker militant forces against a ruling government or occupation force. This makes it the perfect bogeyman (in essence, the only bogeyman) for our brave new global capitalist world, where global capitalism takes the place of that “ruling government or occupation force.”

I’ve writtena number of essays about this, so I won’t reiterate all that here. The short version is, we we no longer live in a world where nation-against-nation conflict is driving the course of political events. We live in a world where global capitalism is driving the course of political events. The economies of virtually every nation on the planet are hopelessly interdependent. Capitalist ideology pervades all cultures, despite their superficial differences. It is a globally hegemonic system, so it has no external enemies. None. The only threats it faces are internal. Its “enemies” are, by definition, insurgent … in other words, “extremist” or “terrorist.”

This even holds true for the Russia paranoia the ruling classes are pumping out currently … it’s all just part of the “reality adjustment,” and the launch of a new official narrative, not a prelude to war with Russia. The USA is not going to war with Russia. The notion is beyond ridiculous. Have you noticed, despite all their warlike verbiage, that no one has put forth a single scenario in which war between Russia and the West makes sense? That’s because it doesn’t make sense. Not for Russia, the USA, or anyone else. This is why “the Russian threat” is being marketed as an “attack on democratic values” and “an attempt to sow division,” and so on. Because the war the corporatocracy is waging is not a war against Russia, the nation. The war they are fighting is a counter-insurgency, an ideological counter-insurgency. “Russia” has just been added to the list of “terrorists” and “extremists” who “hate us for our freedom.”

Thus, our new official narrative is actually just a minor variation on the original War on Terror narrative we’ve been indoctrinated with since 2001. A minor yet essential variation. From 2001 to 2016, the constant “terrorist threat” we were facing was strictly limited to Islamic terrorism, which made sense as long as the corporatocracy was focused on restructuring the Middle East. White supremacist terrorism was not part of the narrative, nor was any other form of terrorism, as that would have just confused the audience.

That changed, dramatically, in 2016.

The Brexit referendum and the election of Trump alerted the global capitalist ruling classes to the existence of another dangerous insurgency that had nothing to do with the Greater Middle East. While they were off merrily destabilizing, restructuring, privatizing, and debt-enslaving, resentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen.

The corporatocracy wasted no time in dealing with this new insurgency. They demonized and hamstrung Trump, as they’ll continue to do until he’s well out of office. But Trump was never the significant threat. The significant threat is the people who elected him, and who voted for Brexit, and the AfD, and Sanders, and Mélenchon, and Corbyn, and who just stayed home on election day and refused to vote for Hillary Clinton. The threat is the attitude of these people. The insubordinate attitude of these people. The childish attitude of these people (who naively thought they could challenge the most powerful empire in the annals of human history … one that controls, not just the most fearsome military force that has ever existed, but the means to control “reality” itself).

The corporatocracy is going to change that attitude, or it is going to make it disappear. It is in the process of doing this now, using every ideological weapon in its arsenal. The news media. Publishing. Hollywood. The Internet. Intelligence agencies. Congressional inquiries. Protests. Marches. Twitter’s “advisory emails.” Google’s manipulation of its search results. Facebook’s “counterspeech” initiative. Russiagate. Shitholegate. Pornstargate. The ruling class is sending us a message. The message is, “you’re either with us or against us.” The message is, “we will tolerate no dissent, except for officially sanctioned dissent.” The message is, “try to fuck with us, and we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you.”

The message is, “we control reality, so reality is whatever the fuck we say it is, regardless of whether it is based in fact or just some totally made-up story we got The Washington Post to publish and then had the corporate media repeat, over and over, for fourteen months.” If that doesn’t qualify as full-blown Orwellian, I’m not sure what, exactly, would.

I wish I had some rallying cry to end this depressing assessment with, but I have no interest in being one of these Twitter-based guerrilla leaders who tell you we can beat the corporatocracy by tweeting and donating to them on Patreon, and then going about our lives as “normal.” It’s probably going to take a little more than that, and the obvious truth is, the odds are against us. That said, I plan to make as much noise about The War on Dissent as humanly possible, until they marginalize me out of existence … or the corporate-mediated simulation that so many of us take for existence these days. What do you say, want to join me?

C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing (UK) and Broadway Play Publishing (USA). His debut novel, ZONE 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. He can reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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    Nail guns
    Hot tubs
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    Fast cars
    Opioids
    Small aircraft
    Subway or train platforms

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  2. Wally says:

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An admission that it doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    What countries are next?

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    http://www.codoh.com

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    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
    You're absolutely right, Wally, we need to have respect for the truth. It's essential for any progress to be made.
    , @renfro
    Since noticing your comments and looking at the codoh site several weeks ago I have explored some other research papers and Red Cross records on DPs and Census reports in the countries that Germany had control over.
    I think 6 million is grossly exaggerated.
    Another thing that struck me was the 'wildness' of some of the claims and in several cases survivors claiming being tasked with taking bodies out of gas chambers ''immediately 'afterward'....there is no way they could have done that and handled bodies without being affected by the residue themselves.

    People can question the existence of God or whatever else they want to but they can't investigate the holocaust claims.....?

    Obviously some people fear any objective investigation coming out.

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  3. Until now, I have considered C. J. Hopkins to be only a playwright or whatever and not a serious political scientist or political critic. But now, I see that he has grown out to be a serious political voice.

    I consider Hopkins’ manifesto to be not unlike the old Communist Manifesto of 1848. Just as more than 170 years ago the Communist Manifesto could note that “a specter is haunting Europe,” so today we could say that “a specter is haunting the world.” But whereas back then the hunted people had a name — “communists” — today those who are wanted for ‘terrorism’ have no name or flag under which to come together. Perhaps the most appropriate name for these people is “Dissidents.”

    Several individuals come to mind as perhaps having leadership potential for the Dissidents. First, there is Ai Weiwei, who is known as a dissident artist and also as an enemy of the state — so the word for these dissident artists may be “anarchists.” But since anarchists would seem to have to eschew all political organization, they can’t be anything like the old Communist Party. Nonetheless, they can certainly be a specter to haunt the globalized world, the world that pretends to be based on humanist globalism.

    Two other examples, along with Ai Weiwei, are: Jello Biafra in the USA and Varg Vikernes in Europe (at least in Northern and Central Europe). Both have arisen from the world of music but have not been particularly shy about getting involveed in politics. So far Jello has managed to avoid prosecution/persecution, while Varg is actually a convicted murderer and also convicted of “hate crime” under the infamous “hate crime” statutes of France. Jello is a Green, however, and it’s note-worthy that the current leader (POTUS candidate) of the Green Party USA (Dr. Jill Stein) has recently been singled out by congressional “intel” committees as a person of interest in the so-called “Russiagate” affair.

    As Hopkins says,

    The ruling class is sending us a message. The message is, “you’re either with us or against us.”

    Maybe that’s what has happened with the USA Greens: the global PTB have sent the message, and it appears that the Greens’ leader has responded by chosing to cooperate with the witch hunt — “discretion is the better part of valor” (as the old expression goes).

    It seems to me a lot like the real California ‘hippies’ back in the the mid-60s — not the war protesters but the real hippies who were too stoned to know that there was a war going on. They just knew that they did not want any part of the world as we know it. Oh, they wanted the natural world all right, they just didn’t want the so-called “civilized” world. Rightists tended to place them somewhere on the Left side of the spectrum of the Right-Left-Right-ya-Left-ya Right-ya-left-right-left (as drill sergeants might express it). I was there in the 60s, although I was already too old to be trusted according to the political pseudo-hippies (I was already over 30 years of age) but what I would call the real hippies, they trusted me just fine. Anyway, Rightists and all the journalists and commentators never came close to realizing what it was all about. You almost had to have some experience first-hand of LSD, you know.

    Maybe that’s where this is all heading — right back to LSD, psilocybin and good old Cannabis. I note in this respect that the Trump administration has recently come down strong to suppress the “Movement” in Colorado and elsewhere. One of Trump’s numerous sell-outs or cop-outs (to use the old 60s terminology). Contrary to his campaign statements, of course.

    Yes, I think that Hopkins way off there in the capital of rationalism, Berlin, probably has no idea of how this is likely to play out back in the US of A … it’s going to be all about illicit drugs … and I don’t mean factory-produced opioids or amphetamine. This battle will definitely divide the goats from the sheep — the real “libertarian” anarchists from the pretend libertarians. I could be wrong but I think it’s going to be a BFD. Yeah, I admit to it: I hope it’s going to be a BFD. Anything else and it’s too boring for tears.

    Back to the Future.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?
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  4. @Wally
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An admission that it doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    What countries are next?

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    www.codoh.com

    You’re absolutely right, Wally, we need to have respect for the truth. It’s essential for any progress to be made.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    If you think that it is easy to find the truth you are mistaken.
    Maybe domestic animals are better off than wild animals.
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  5. Steve Hayes says: • Website

    No one wanted the First World War, but given the build up of propaganda, tensions, mistrust, and the alliances, a mere act of terrorism by Gavrilo Princip was enough to ignite a conflagration that no one could stop.

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    • Replies: @Johann
    No one really wanted Lincoln’s “uncivil war” or most of the deep state wars of the 20th century. No one except Hilary Clinton and her girls wanted the Syrian War or her almost war against Russia. However the deep state corporate complex,public education, entertainment, media and sports complex did their respective jobs of warping the average American. Next month in the corporate American world the Olympics will show case millions of mindless Americans waving their flags and intoning their obstreperous “USA USA USA”. America nova delenda est.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Never heard of the pre 1914 secret agreements between GB, France and the tsar, to carve up three empires: the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman ?
    Trotzky in 1917 found the agreements in the tsarist archives, and published them.
    And there is the less known Balfour declaration, verbal, of 1907, to the USA ambassador 'that war was possibly the cheapest way to maintain the British standard of living' .
    The aging British empire could not compete economically with the Germany, united in 1871.
    Even the obligatory 'Made in Germany' had the opposite effect, German products simply were better.
    As Churchill said 'the whole period 1914 1945 can best be seen as one long war', a war Germany won, as we see now, the country leading Europe, alas, to destruction, because of, I fear, guilt feelings imposed by the allies on the Germans.
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  6. Barryroe says:

    This is an excellent and exceptional piece. Correct on all points, as we have come to expect of C. J. Hopkins, one of the most clear-sighted contributors to this site. Fewer comic flourishes than in his earlier essays, probably reflecting how desperate things are becoming for independent and fair-minded people trying to make their voices heard. Surprising to see so few comments, though perhaps that’s not a bad thing, given how intemperate some commenters can be.

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  7. “No one wanted the First World War, but given the build up of propaganda, tensions, mistrust, and the alliances, a mere act of terrorism by Gavrilo Princip was enough to ignite a conflagration that no one could stop.” — Steve Hayes

    I guess that Hayes’ comment here at C.J. Hopkins’ article is all about demonstrating the effectiveness of terrorism … so then the War on Terror makes sense? … but … whatever … to respond to Hayes’ contention that no one wanted the First World War, I would ask Hayes: “No one? Not even greedy internationalist central bankers with international connections?”

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  8. @Grandpa Charlie
    Until now, I have considered C. J. Hopkins to be only a playwright or whatever and not a serious political scientist or political critic. But now, I see that he has grown out to be a serious political voice.

    I consider Hopkins' manifesto to be not unlike the old Communist Manifesto of 1848. Just as more than 170 years ago the Communist Manifesto could note that "a specter is haunting Europe," so today we could say that "a specter is haunting the world." But whereas back then the hunted people had a name -- "communists" -- today those who are wanted for 'terrorism' have no name or flag under which to come together. Perhaps the most appropriate name for these people is "Dissidents."

    Several individuals come to mind as perhaps having leadership potential for the Dissidents. First, there is Ai Weiwei, who is known as a dissident artist and also as an enemy of the state -- so the word for these dissident artists may be "anarchists." But since anarchists would seem to have to eschew all political organization, they can't be anything like the old Communist Party. Nonetheless, they can certainly be a specter to haunt the globalized world, the world that pretends to be based on humanist globalism.

    Two other examples, along with Ai Weiwei, are: Jello Biafra in the USA and Varg Vikernes in Europe (at least in Northern and Central Europe). Both have arisen from the world of music but have not been particularly shy about getting involveed in politics. So far Jello has managed to avoid prosecution/persecution, while Varg is actually a convicted murderer and also convicted of "hate crime" under the infamous "hate crime" statutes of France. Jello is a Green, however, and it's note-worthy that the current leader (POTUS candidate) of the Green Party USA (Dr. Jill Stein) has recently been singled out by congressional "intel" committees as a person of interest in the so-called "Russiagate" affair.

    As Hopkins says,


    The ruling class is sending us a message. The message is, “you’re either with us or against us.”
     
    Maybe that's what has happened with the USA Greens: the global PTB have sent the message, and it appears that the Greens' leader has responded by chosing to cooperate with the witch hunt -- "discretion is the better part of valor" (as the old expression goes).

    It seems to me a lot like the real California 'hippies' back in the the mid-60s -- not the war protesters but the real hippies who were too stoned to know that there was a war going on. They just knew that they did not want any part of the world as we know it. Oh, they wanted the natural world all right, they just didn't want the so-called "civilized" world. Rightists tended to place them somewhere on the Left side of the spectrum of the Right-Left-Right-ya-Left-ya Right-ya-left-right-left (as drill sergeants might express it). I was there in the 60s, although I was already too old to be trusted according to the political pseudo-hippies (I was already over 30 years of age) but what I would call the real hippies, they trusted me just fine. Anyway, Rightists and all the journalists and commentators never came close to realizing what it was all about. You almost had to have some experience first-hand of LSD, you know.

    Maybe that's where this is all heading -- right back to LSD, psilocybin and good old Cannabis. I note in this respect that the Trump administration has recently come down strong to suppress the "Movement" in Colorado and elsewhere. One of Trump's numerous sell-outs or cop-outs (to use the old 60s terminology). Contrary to his campaign statements, of course.

    Yes, I think that Hopkins way off there in the capital of rationalism, Berlin, probably has no idea of how this is likely to play out back in the US of A ... it's going to be all about illicit drugs ... and I don't mean factory-produced opioids or amphetamine. This battle will definitely divide the goats from the sheep -- the real "libertarian" anarchists from the pretend libertarians. I could be wrong but I think it's going to be a BFD. Yeah, I admit to it: I hope it's going to be a BFD. Anything else and it's too boring for tears.

    Back to the Future.

    Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?

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    "Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?"-- Ilyana
     
    Ilyana,

    On the one hand, I guess I was born into the Deplorables, and OTOH I don't even know what that means. Something Hillary Clinton is supposed to have said? And you suppose that I give a f*rt about something that she said?

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  9. @Grandpa Charlie
    You're absolutely right, Wally, we need to have respect for the truth. It's essential for any progress to be made.

    If you think that it is easy to find the truth you are mistaken.
    Maybe domestic animals are better off than wild animals.

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    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
    "If you think that it is easy to find the truth ...." What a strange thing to hypothesize about me!

    "Maybe domestic animals are better off than wild animals." No, they aren't, generally speaking, but that's another strange thing so suggest. Can you relate these remarks of yours to anything in Hopkins' essay?
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  10. renfro says:
    @Wally
    Below is where free speech on the impossible 'holocaust' storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An admission that it doesn't stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.
    What countries are next?

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    www.codoh.com

    Since noticing your comments and looking at the codoh site several weeks ago I have explored some other research papers and Red Cross records on DPs and Census reports in the countries that Germany had control over.
    I think 6 million is grossly exaggerated.
    Another thing that struck me was the ‘wildness’ of some of the claims and in several cases survivors claiming being tasked with taking bodies out of gas chambers ”immediately ‘afterward’….there is no way they could have done that and handled bodies without being affected by the residue themselves.

    People can question the existence of God or whatever else they want to but they can’t investigate the holocaust claims…..?

    Obviously some people fear any objective investigation coming out.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    You're on your way to freedom.
    For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
     
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0
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  11. Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews. They control all these corporations like Google, Facebook and so forth as well as all the media. So what did you expect? The Jews always controlled the publishing, art, photography, music industry and everything else. We have a semi-literate populace and weak minded America and it may already be too late.

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    • Replies: @yurivku

    Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews
     
    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society. And the treatment should be used on whole US people (Jews included).

    The question is - Can this society be cured?
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  12. Biff says:

    This full-spectrum type of mass indoctrination, or “reality adjustment,”

    And working with ease on my liberal friends, and most other walking dead voters I know.

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  13. I’m in, CJ! It’s you and me against the world, brother.

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  14. m___ says:

    That’s the “bend”, the trademark of our elites that are “contestant”. “Patreon”, “Fecesbook”, “Tweeter”, one cannot be and reference to the system and denounce it at once.
    The best example of “bent” reality is still by far, Chomsky, the not so poor fellow has been going at it a v—eee-r–yy long time. Close second Steven Pinker? And on, at infinity.

    The limit: the incomprehension of the plebs, the believe in the need of an intermediate to interpret their close reality, a reference to next of kins, humans scale badly. The elites know this, it is sufficient to be incrementally less sloppy: a dark suit and trademark shoes will do.

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  15. Was not the McCarthy era also a war on dissidents ?
    In any society, states Chomsky, ‘there is a standard truth, if this truth is not acknowledged, no discussion is possible, except within a small group of thoese who know better’.
    Until 1990 there was a Cold War, the USSR threatened us.
    I personally saw it as a very bad joke, after the Cuba crisis.
    We now have the era of conflicting views, especially nationalism against globalism.
    The ‘elites’ have embraced globalism, the nationalists thus are dissenters, dissidents.

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    "We now have the era of conflicting views, especially nationalism against globalism." -- jilles dykstra
     
    It's more like the locals against the cosmopolitans than nationalists against globalists. Locals get some but generally precious little comfort from 'their' nations, less and less all the time, and also what are the nations anyway but a fragmenting, or a recognition of the reality of fragmentation, of the class of 'locals' -- versus cosmopolites. Those of us without passports versus those with them, some with more than one passport per person. This is why or how democracy still functions and is important in the scheme of things. When you need to show a passport to vote, that's the end of any nationalism or even just the end of any nation.

    By 'democracy', I mean a generalized way of looking at society -- something like how Marx discussed democracy in his very early writings, like in the Rheinische Zeitung. So, Putin's Russia is a form of democracy as, for sure, is the People's Republic of China or even the Islamic Republic of Iran, or, say, the Palestinian Nation ... or even the USA with our problematic elections, or, say, the Navajo Nation.

    Democracy, differing widely from nation to nation and not at all confined to concepts of 'Western' democracy, is about all we "deplorables" have going for us, other than our closeness to our local roots, our understanding of folkways of doing and of surviving that are totally opaque to the cosmopoliran ruling class who deign to appear among us only as tourists or as absentee owners who occasionally come around to check on their properties. Indeed, that is how we can distinguish the middle from the upper classes: the upper classes appear among us as absentee owners paying a visit to one of their many homes, whereas the middle classes appear among us as tourists with credit cards.

    Meanwhile, Hopkins challenges us to join him in a global revolution or, anyway, an overhauling of the entire social system ... and this is like how Lenin challenged the workers to join himself, a scion of an aristocratic family. So, to start with a class analysis: upper classes within which we find the ruling classes, upper ruling class of billionaires, etc., down to the petty ruling class of police and other politicians, etc., and, eventually, we get down to the lower classes, pensioners (like myself), etc., those who are stuck where they are like peasants of old who were legally and in reality, as well as sentimentally, attached to the land. Something like that.

    So sure, I'm joining up with Hopkins, who lives in Berlin and has at least one passport, while I have none, because I don't go anywhere. The reality of course is that Hopkins would relate to me the way Lenin would relate to some kulak -- I am just fuel for the revolution, if any. But it's very early, we have not even completed our class analysis!

    Who knows? Mao began at an early age with a complex class analysis (a document almost lost now in the dustbin of history) that went far beyond any simplistic capitalists versus workers, or, as the Wobblies put it, "bosses" versus workers. At that starting phase, Mao had no party, really, and almost not even any nation. But he wasn't alone. When Mao was revving up, at the same time more or less, Ho Chi Minh took a job as a cook or whatever on a liner going from Saigon to Paris ... so did you know that radical politics could be so adventuresome and such crazy fun? Made of such flimsy fantasies?

    I'm too old to say this, but we shall see.
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  16. This is from 1976:

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  17. wayfarer says:

    Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.

    – Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Rothschild Zionists & Trust Fund Children, LLC.

    9/11 “Terrorist Attack” Case Closed (Part 1 and Part 2).
    source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl294zrYLzk
    source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47oH8PS_QY

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  18. Jake says:

    No one in the world has a better understanding of what is going on, and what’s at stake, of how deep into a dystopian nightmare we, of the liberally tolerant and free ‘West,’ are than CJ Hopkins. Several others are on his level, but no one tops him.

    Orwell saw that Marxism always and unavoidably leads to totalitarian Hell on earth. Hopkins sees that anti-Marxist, Liberal Capitalist Globalism leads just as unavoidably to totalitarianism that features an equally small and all-powerful group of amoral pleaser-seekers treating the masses as unattractive puppets they despise and would love to smash into smithereens and replace. The difference is that while the former may be glimpsed fictionally in Animal Farm and 1984, the latter is glimpsed fictionally in Brave New World.

    The latter is, of course, senior to the former. Liberal Capitalist Globalism was formed and raring to conquer the world and ‘reform’ it at least by the time of the tragi-comically dubbed Glorious Revolution. America, which began as a revolt against it, fully embraced it with Abraham Lincoln and the original Republican Party. The Spanish-American War sealed the deal.

    Liberal Capitalist Globalism is essentially WASP culture succeeding in becoming and remaining world hegemon.

    All you defenders and prmoters of WASP culture: we have met the Enemy, and he is us.

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    Orwell remained a 'democratic socialist' until the last. He simply rejected the Soviet model.
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  19. mp says:

    How anyone can write a column about this stuff and not use the J-word is beyond me. Sorry to disabuse you, Mr. Hopkins, but it is not some vague, “corporate capitalism” behind it all. After all, Henry Ford was the proto-capitalist-industrialist, and he knew the score. In fact it is primarily Jewish media and tech chiefs behind this (along with, of course, their running dogs in the regime). Using euphemisms to disguise who they are is not necessary in the current year. Why focus on Russia, you ask? Jews have not been kind to Russia, ever. So to make Russia the “bad guy” is just a natural expression for them.

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    No doubt that today Jews are the biggest proponents of the horrors and reap the most rewards. No other ethnic or religious group comes really close.

    But Jews are merely the Junior partners who have proven more successful in a very short time than the old Senior partners.

    Thew framework is WASP culture, which springs from a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Mr Quintessential WASP himself make alliance with Jews, taking Jewish money and allowing Jews back into England legally, even giving Jews special rights and privileges denied to the vast majority of British Isles natives.

    Cromwell and the Anglo-Saxon Puritans made that deal because it was inherent in the theology: Judaizing heresy necessarily produces pro-Jewish politics and Jewish economic alliances, which always gives way to a fully pro-Jewish culture.

    The British Empire is the one political framework that was necessary to getting us to this point, with the US necessary to take over the mantle. The sun never setting on the British Empire meant that the culture of a Judaizing heresy ruled the globe.

    You cannot separate the 'Jewish problem' from the 'WASP problem.'
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  20. Johann says:
    @Steve Hayes
    No one wanted the First World War, but given the build up of propaganda, tensions, mistrust, and the alliances, a mere act of terrorism by Gavrilo Princip was enough to ignite a conflagration that no one could stop.

    No one really wanted Lincoln’s “uncivil war” or most of the deep state wars of the 20th century. No one except Hilary Clinton and her girls wanted the Syrian War or her almost war against Russia. However the deep state corporate complex,public education, entertainment, media and sports complex did their respective jobs of warping the average American. Next month in the corporate American world the Olympics will show case millions of mindless Americans waving their flags and intoning their obstreperous “USA USA USA”. America nova delenda est.

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  21. Randal says:

    I wish I had some rallying cry to end this depressing assessment with, but I have no interest in being one of these Twitter-based guerrilla leaders who tell you we can beat the corporatocracy by tweeting and donating to them on Patreon, and then going about our lives as “normal.” It’s probably going to take a little more than that, and the obvious truth is, the odds are against us. That said, I plan to make as much noise about The War on Dissent as humanly possible, until they marginalize me out of existence … or the corporate-mediated simulation that so many of us take for existence these days. What do you say, want to join me?

    You certainly seem to share the same general concern that I have with this aspect of the way the world is going. But you don’t appear to be willing to commit to any plausible solution.

    Personally I’m willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially. Islamist jihadism might or might not work in the muslim world, but my country is not (yet) part of that world and hopefully never will be, and it has no relevance for me.

    When you dismiss that possible solution as just another “doomed attempt to revert to [a] despotic social system”, you revert to being part of the problem, for me. Which isn’t to say you are necessarily incorrect on the “doomed” part, but when there is no other remotely plausible solution anywhere in sight, such pessimism is merely destructive.

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    ...when there is no other remotely plausible solution...
     
    Well....that appears to be the key.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this "neoliberalism".

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform.........some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.
    , @JackOH
    Good comment, Randal. Unz Review appeals to the deeply pessimistic Gloomy Gus in me, which I have aplenty. Plus, the besetting sin of political dissent, which is what we do here, is paralysis by analysis, dilatoriness, moral cowardice, or call it what you will. Not a formula for political mobilization.

    Still, I've done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.

    , @Grandpa Charlie

    "Personally I’m willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially." -- Randal
     
    Yeah, Randal, that's reasonable. Any port in a storm.

    Whether it happens or not, that depends on which way the winds blow.

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  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist
    Be sure to stay away from

    Nail guns
    Hot tubs
    Bathtubs
    Fast cars
    Opioids
    Small aircraft
    Subway or train platforms

    Right. We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section. Keep posting!

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    Thanks for playing Keyboard Commando. Don't worry, we've got your IP. Nobody is truly anonymous on the interwebs.
    , @RobinG
    LOL. I think that went over his head.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Who was Kafka?
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    " We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section." Anonymous (at #22)
     
    Not to mention the Jewish problem. Or the WASP problem.
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  23. Jake says:
    @mp
    How anyone can write a column about this stuff and not use the J-word is beyond me. Sorry to disabuse you, Mr. Hopkins, but it is not some vague, "corporate capitalism" behind it all. After all, Henry Ford was the proto-capitalist-industrialist, and he knew the score. In fact it is primarily Jewish media and tech chiefs behind this (along with, of course, their running dogs in the regime). Using euphemisms to disguise who they are is not necessary in the current year. Why focus on Russia, you ask? Jews have not been kind to Russia, ever. So to make Russia the "bad guy" is just a natural expression for them.

    No doubt that today Jews are the biggest proponents of the horrors and reap the most rewards. No other ethnic or religious group comes really close.

    But Jews are merely the Junior partners who have proven more successful in a very short time than the old Senior partners.

    Thew framework is WASP culture, which springs from a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Mr Quintessential WASP himself make alliance with Jews, taking Jewish money and allowing Jews back into England legally, even giving Jews special rights and privileges denied to the vast majority of British Isles natives.

    Cromwell and the Anglo-Saxon Puritans made that deal because it was inherent in the theology: Judaizing heresy necessarily produces pro-Jewish politics and Jewish economic alliances, which always gives way to a fully pro-Jewish culture.

    The British Empire is the one political framework that was necessary to getting us to this point, with the US necessary to take over the mantle. The sun never setting on the British Empire meant that the culture of a Judaizing heresy ruled the globe.

    You cannot separate the ‘Jewish problem’ from the ‘WASP problem.’

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    "[S]eeing that we must have somebody to quarrel with, I had rather keep our New England associates for that purpose, than to see our bickerings transferred to others. They are circumscribed within such narrow limits, and their population so full, their numbers will ever be the minority, and they are marked, like the Jews, with such a perversity of character, as to constitute, from that circumstance, the natural division of our parties.

    ~ Thomas Jefferson, just before his election as President"

    http://www.knowsouthernhistory.net/Articles/History/Lincoln/yankee_problem.html
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  24. yurivku says:
    @niteranger
    Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews. They control all these corporations like Google, Facebook and so forth as well as all the media. So what did you expect? The Jews always controlled the publishing, art, photography, music industry and everything else. We have a semi-literate populace and weak minded America and it may already be too late.

    Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews

    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society. And the treatment should be used on whole US people (Jews included).

    The question is – Can this society be cured?

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    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society.
     
    If they, like Mr. Unz, put America first--not Israel, not SJWism, not globalism--then I do regard and treat them as American citizens.
    , @lavoisier

    The question is – Can this society be cured?
     
    Not without recognizing the danger posed to that society by the Jewish elephant in the room.
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  25. I am Spartacus!

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    Problem is, Spartacus, in a world with less and less honour and integrity, the guys around you will be shouting, "Yeah, he's Spartacus!"
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  26. Jason Liu says:

    This is just happens when a society does not suppress left wing dissent. They take over and start suppressing you. There has never been a true neutral culture where everyone politely expresses their opinions. The belief that there was, or will ever be, causes huge damage to the right.

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    Credulous children believe in left and right as presented by their slave masters. Who’s that old slave who said that the best slaves are those that don’t realize they are slaves?
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  27. Randal says:

    There has never been a true neutral culture where everyone politely expresses their opinions. The belief that there was, or will ever be, causes huge damage to the right.

    Because it’s so much more useful to just concede the right of the now dominant left to suppress dissent, presumably just on the off chance that reasonable people might nevertheless somehow resume control of the political culture in some indeterminate and presently rather unlikely looking future.

    If the left/right partisan issue is all that concerns you then your declared position might have made sense in the 1950s, when there might still have been a chance to prevent the triumph of the left that actually occurred, but it makes absolutely no sense in today’s word when the issue is whether we can preserve any liberty at all to dissent from the dominant leftist and corporatist world-view for the near future.

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  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu
    This is just happens when a society does not suppress left wing dissent. They take over and start suppressing you. There has never been a true neutral culture where everyone politely expresses their opinions. The belief that there was, or will ever be, causes huge damage to the right.

    Credulous children believe in left and right as presented by their slave masters. Who’s that old slave who said that the best slaves are those that don’t realize they are slaves?

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    "Credulous children believe in left and right as presented by their slave masters. Who’s that old slave who said that the best slaves are those that don’t realize they are slaves?" -- Anonymous (at #28)
     
    Yuh layft, yah raht, yuh layft raht layft. SOUND OFF, 1, 2, 3, 4
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  29. Joe Hide says:

    To Hopkins.
    Your articles keep getting better.
    Any articles including the sexual deviant and degenerate pedophilia epidemic among the elite coming out? If not, we understand. They still have enough power to make that a career killer.
    Good luck and keep writing what you can.

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    Shit! They were even able to force Alex Jones to drop the Pizzagate story.
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  30. @Jake
    No one in the world has a better understanding of what is going on, and what's at stake, of how deep into a dystopian nightmare we, of the liberally tolerant and free 'West,' are than CJ Hopkins. Several others are on his level, but no one tops him.

    Orwell saw that Marxism always and unavoidably leads to totalitarian Hell on earth. Hopkins sees that anti-Marxist, Liberal Capitalist Globalism leads just as unavoidably to totalitarianism that features an equally small and all-powerful group of amoral pleaser-seekers treating the masses as unattractive puppets they despise and would love to smash into smithereens and replace. The difference is that while the former may be glimpsed fictionally in Animal Farm and 1984, the latter is glimpsed fictionally in Brave New World.

    The latter is, of course, senior to the former. Liberal Capitalist Globalism was formed and raring to conquer the world and 'reform' it at least by the time of the tragi-comically dubbed Glorious Revolution. America, which began as a revolt against it, fully embraced it with Abraham Lincoln and the original Republican Party. The Spanish-American War sealed the deal.

    Liberal Capitalist Globalism is essentially WASP culture succeeding in becoming and remaining world hegemon.

    All you defenders and prmoters of WASP culture: we have met the Enemy, and he is us.

    Orwell remained a ‘democratic socialist’ until the last. He simply rejected the Soviet model.

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  31. @Jake
    No doubt that today Jews are the biggest proponents of the horrors and reap the most rewards. No other ethnic or religious group comes really close.

    But Jews are merely the Junior partners who have proven more successful in a very short time than the old Senior partners.

    Thew framework is WASP culture, which springs from a Judaizing heresy: Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Mr Quintessential WASP himself make alliance with Jews, taking Jewish money and allowing Jews back into England legally, even giving Jews special rights and privileges denied to the vast majority of British Isles natives.

    Cromwell and the Anglo-Saxon Puritans made that deal because it was inherent in the theology: Judaizing heresy necessarily produces pro-Jewish politics and Jewish economic alliances, which always gives way to a fully pro-Jewish culture.

    The British Empire is the one political framework that was necessary to getting us to this point, with the US necessary to take over the mantle. The sun never setting on the British Empire meant that the culture of a Judaizing heresy ruled the globe.

    You cannot separate the 'Jewish problem' from the 'WASP problem.'

    “[S]eeing that we must have somebody to quarrel with, I had rather keep our New England associates for that purpose, than to see our bickerings transferred to others. They are circumscribed within such narrow limits, and their population so full, their numbers will ever be the minority, and they are marked, like the Jews, with such a perversity of character, as to constitute, from that circumstance, the natural division of our parties.

    ~ Thomas Jefferson, just before his election as President”

    http://www.knowsouthernhistory.net/Articles/History/Lincoln/yankee_problem.html

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  32. @yurivku

    Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews
     
    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society. And the treatment should be used on whole US people (Jews included).

    The question is - Can this society be cured?

    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society.

    If they, like Mr. Unz, put America first–not Israel, not SJWism, not globalism–then I do regard and treat them as American citizens.

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    It's easy to say that not us to blame, it's all about Jews )
    No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything. But almost same problem is in Russia
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  33. @Joe Hide
    To Hopkins.
    Your articles keep getting better.
    Any articles including the sexual deviant and degenerate pedophilia epidemic among the elite coming out? If not, we understand. They still have enough power to make that a career killer.
    Good luck and keep writing what you can.

    Shit! They were even able to force Alex Jones to drop the Pizzagate story.

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  34. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    I wish I had some rallying cry to end this depressing assessment with, but I have no interest in being one of these Twitter-based guerrilla leaders who tell you we can beat the corporatocracy by tweeting and donating to them on Patreon, and then going about our lives as “normal.” It’s probably going to take a little more than that, and the obvious truth is, the odds are against us. That said, I plan to make as much noise about The War on Dissent as humanly possible, until they marginalize me out of existence … or the corporate-mediated simulation that so many of us take for existence these days. What do you say, want to join me?
     
    You certainly seem to share the same general concern that I have with this aspect of the way the world is going. But you don't appear to be willing to commit to any plausible solution.

    Personally I'm willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially. Islamist jihadism might or might not work in the muslim world, but my country is not (yet) part of that world and hopefully never will be, and it has no relevance for me.

    When you dismiss that possible solution as just another "doomed attempt to revert to [a] despotic social system", you revert to being part of the problem, for me. Which isn't to say you are necessarily incorrect on the "doomed" part, but when there is no other remotely plausible solution anywhere in sight, such pessimism is merely destructive.

    …when there is no other remotely plausible solution…

    Well….that appears to be the key.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this “neoliberalism”.

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform………some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.

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    Well….that appears to be the key.

     

    Evidently.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this “neoliberalism”.
     
    Of course. We do not appear to live in a perfectable world.

    When the problems of nationalism become urgent or significant, then I will oppose nationalism. For the moment such a situation is remote, and reactionary nationalism is the best available opponent of the real and serious - possibly terminal - problems we actually do face, here and now.

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform………some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.
     

    Maybe, but I've seen no reason yet to suppose it even can, let alone will. And I've lived a fairly long time and seen plenty of attempts.
    , @Jake
    Nationalism has deep flaws only for those who hate the nation.

    What you mean is that nationalism that morphs into imperialism has deep flaws. But that is imperialism.

    And Liberal Globalist America is brutally imperialist to its very core.
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  35. yurivku says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society.
     
    If they, like Mr. Unz, put America first--not Israel, not SJWism, not globalism--then I do regard and treat them as American citizens.

    It’s easy to say that not us to blame, it’s all about Jews )
    No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything. But almost same problem is in Russia

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    It’s easy to say that not us to blame, it’s all about Jews ) ... No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything.
     
    I have never maintained that all the white goyim are blameless. Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons and the Jewish banking elite. It first began centuries ago in England, under Oliver Cromwell. However, most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons. So blaming all of us alike is wrong. There were many brave Americans--ranging from Henry Ford to Charles Lindhberg to Father Coughlin--who openly denounced this disgraceful sell-out of the public ... all to no avail though.
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  36. The “rallying cry” is the same as it ever was: “Speak the truth and insist on it, in season and out of season.”
    And count the cost of doing so: that cost will be a readiness to lay down everything you have in order to live the truth.
    The truth will set us free.

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  37. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    ...when there is no other remotely plausible solution...
     
    Well....that appears to be the key.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this "neoliberalism".

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform.........some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.

    Well….that appears to be the key.

    Evidently.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this “neoliberalism”.

    Of course. We do not appear to live in a perfectable world.

    When the problems of nationalism become urgent or significant, then I will oppose nationalism. For the moment such a situation is remote, and reactionary nationalism is the best available opponent of the real and serious – possibly terminal – problems we actually do face, here and now.

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform………some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.

    Maybe, but I’ve seen no reason yet to suppose it even can, let alone will. And I’ve lived a fairly long time and seen plenty of attempts.

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  38. In the United States the original religion of Wash DC was the Episcopalians, then the Roman Catholics. Jews arrived later and guilted the survivors with their Muh Holocaustz narrative.

    The Power of Their Glory, America’s Ruling Class, the Episcopalians 1978

    https://www.amazon.com/Power-Their-Glory-Americas-Episcopalians/dp/0883261553/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517250129&sr=8-1&keywords=the+power+of+their+glory

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  39. @Anonymous
    Right. We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section. Keep posting!

    Thanks for playing Keyboard Commando. Don’t worry, we’ve got your IP. Nobody is truly anonymous on the interwebs.

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  40. Mark Presco says: • Website

    Mr. Hopkins. While I wholeheartedly support your position, I have to disagree on two points.

    First, I don’t think the new nationalism, or populism (a desperate effort to ridicule it) is doomed to fail. Momentum is rapidly growing all over the world.

    Second, you assume that things will continue to limp along the way they have been. This is the least likely scenario. There are many step functions that can occur that no one, not even the globalists, can control. They include:

    1. A total global economic collapse will divest the elite of their wealth, and foment civil wars.

    2. The Islamic armies that are currently invading the West will soon deem it necessary to coordinate their violence.

    The West has been though it all before. Freedom loving white men will again rise to the challenge and take back our culture.

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  41. It’s all a little, well, fictionalish.

    First, Trump did get elected. At first I did wonder if he was “their” guy, but after a year, if it’s a dog and pony show it’s pretty convincing.

    Second, everybody is wealthy.

    Third, for the west anyway, where’s the draft, where’s the war.

    I submit their control and their program is easily cracked as evidenced by Trump/Brexit/failing EU/freedom caucus and so on, and is barely able to hold together in a time of unprecedented prosperity (for the west and much of the rest of the world anyway). What happens to it all if there’s a problem that intrudes into the lives of the average (insert demeaning descriptive noun here) and “wakes” them up.

    And, what’s the conspiracy anyway. Isn’t it just corporates doing what the powerful have done all along, strive for more more more. It doesn’t bother me that much.

    Mostly the tone of the article and some comments implies defeat. Are you kidding. Most of humanity through most of history have suffered under unimaginable oppression, including some of our global neighbors today. What they wouldn’t give for a chance to be in your shoes to fight for their liberty.

    The left are currently making fools of themselves, a sea change is at hand. I thought the dotard Soros at Davos was emblematic, their time is over, IF WE DON”T LET OFF THE GAS. Mock them, shine a light on their sneaks, laugh at their obvious ploys, and then hone it and redouble it. They have themselves is a spot and they know it.

    A note, this is a battle of the sheepdogs. The value of liberty must imparted to the snowflakes and the #resistance. American blacks in particular are more than ripe to be convinced of the foolishness of their leadership. All these think they’re aiming for a better world, a mistake rooted in good intentions, the rot and deceit inside their own movement will be discouraging and has become an opening for something real.

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  42. @Steve Hayes
    No one wanted the First World War, but given the build up of propaganda, tensions, mistrust, and the alliances, a mere act of terrorism by Gavrilo Princip was enough to ignite a conflagration that no one could stop.

    Never heard of the pre 1914 secret agreements between GB, France and the tsar, to carve up three empires: the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman ?
    Trotzky in 1917 found the agreements in the tsarist archives, and published them.
    And there is the less known Balfour declaration, verbal, of 1907, to the USA ambassador ‘that war was possibly the cheapest way to maintain the British standard of living’ .
    The aging British empire could not compete economically with the Germany, united in 1871.
    Even the obligatory ‘Made in Germany’ had the opposite effect, German products simply were better.
    As Churchill said ‘the whole period 1914 1945 can best be seen as one long war’, a war Germany won, as we see now, the country leading Europe, alas, to destruction, because of, I fear, guilt feelings imposed by the allies on the Germans.

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  43. Wally says: • Website
    @renfro
    Since noticing your comments and looking at the codoh site several weeks ago I have explored some other research papers and Red Cross records on DPs and Census reports in the countries that Germany had control over.
    I think 6 million is grossly exaggerated.
    Another thing that struck me was the 'wildness' of some of the claims and in several cases survivors claiming being tasked with taking bodies out of gas chambers ''immediately 'afterward'....there is no way they could have done that and handled bodies without being affected by the residue themselves.

    People can question the existence of God or whatever else they want to but they can't investigate the holocaust claims.....?

    Obviously some people fear any objective investigation coming out.

    You’re on your way to freedom.
    For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

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    Wally,

    The video you post titled Chemistry of Auschwitz is convincing but also technical and boring to an extreme. By contrast, this video by David Irving is not only convincing but compelling and interesting from start to finish. It really explains for Americans the horrible injustice of the European system. We are so fortunate to have our Constitution and the tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9MckJcbs3w

    We must protect and preserve that by all means available to us. That's really what has been under attack by antifa and BLM, isn't it?

    BTW: By all accounts, the Chinese system is ten times worse!

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  44. @forgottenpseudonym
    I am Spartacus!

    Problem is, Spartacus, in a world with less and less honour and integrity, the guys around you will be shouting, “Yeah, he’s Spartacus!”

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    "And so is his wife!"
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  45. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous
    Right. We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section. Keep posting!

    LOL. I think that went over his head.

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  46. David says:
    @The Alarmist
    Problem is, Spartacus, in a world with less and less honour and integrity, the guys around you will be shouting, "Yeah, he's Spartacus!"

    “And so is his wife!”

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  47. American elites are neoliberal and neoconservative. They have found religion in identity politics or cynically use it as a weapon against their White enemies.

    It’s hard to see how this doesn’t turn bloody.

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    Once the barbarians are in the gates, all politics become identity politics. In the US the gates collapsed in 1965. In the UK in 1948. They've been falling like dominos thruout the West ever since. In another generation or so national borders in the West will look more illogical n artificial than do today's borders in the MidEast.
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  48. @Anonymous
    Right. We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section. Keep posting!

    Who was Kafka?

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  49. RobinG says:

    Fallen Dissident Warrior

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/29/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/ Robert Parry’s Legacy and the Future of Consortiumnews

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  50. JackOH says:
    @Randal

    I wish I had some rallying cry to end this depressing assessment with, but I have no interest in being one of these Twitter-based guerrilla leaders who tell you we can beat the corporatocracy by tweeting and donating to them on Patreon, and then going about our lives as “normal.” It’s probably going to take a little more than that, and the obvious truth is, the odds are against us. That said, I plan to make as much noise about The War on Dissent as humanly possible, until they marginalize me out of existence … or the corporate-mediated simulation that so many of us take for existence these days. What do you say, want to join me?
     
    You certainly seem to share the same general concern that I have with this aspect of the way the world is going. But you don't appear to be willing to commit to any plausible solution.

    Personally I'm willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially. Islamist jihadism might or might not work in the muslim world, but my country is not (yet) part of that world and hopefully never will be, and it has no relevance for me.

    When you dismiss that possible solution as just another "doomed attempt to revert to [a] despotic social system", you revert to being part of the problem, for me. Which isn't to say you are necessarily incorrect on the "doomed" part, but when there is no other remotely plausible solution anywhere in sight, such pessimism is merely destructive.

    Good comment, Randal. Unz Review appeals to the deeply pessimistic Gloomy Gus in me, which I have aplenty. Plus, the besetting sin of political dissent, which is what we do here, is paralysis by analysis, dilatoriness, moral cowardice, or call it what you will. Not a formula for political mobilization.

    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.

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    Well I can't deny I'm as prone to pessimism as the next aging embittered reactionary, in truth.

    But if there's to be any solution, at the moment it looks to me like a resurgence of reactionary nationalism, and blood and soil nationalism at that, is the only prospect. Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Maybe a religious revival would also serve, but Christianity seems irretrievably damaged (just go read the stuff Rod Dreher produces at TAC and bear in mind that's probably the very best you'll get out of modern "Christianity").


    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.
     
    Good stuff!

    Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types. I lived through most of my life as a thoroughgoing political partisan, only ever voting Conservative (before it became "Conservative" after Thatcher), and spending my time arguing for the US alliance and against unilateralists and communist sympathisers (those were very different times). And yet I never went on a single demonstration, nor saw any need to do so. Activism for Conservatives mostly meant organising election activities.

    I finally was motivated to end my general disdain for demonstrations and go on one with the vast demonstration against Blair's stupid, criminal attack on Iraq. That was the largest political demonstration ever in the UK, by some distance. The fact that it had essentially zero effect upon the government's actions pretty much confirmed that my previous disdain for political demonstrations had been correct.

    For the left, of course, "demonstrations" are generally about dressing up their desire to violently intimidate opponents in politically respectable terms.

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  51. A semi-mystical view of reality:

    Two major methods/tricks pulling us all to Orwellian reality/nightmare can be
    identified as “Hegelian Dialectic” and “Pavlovian Fear Conditioning”.

    Presented as a formula:
    “Hegelian Dialectic” +” Pavlovian Fear Conditioning” =”Orwellian Nightmare”
    it comes with a curious/ominous coincidence:
    The sum of all letters in this formula (after replacing ‘a’ with 1 , ‘b’ with 2, etc.)
    divided by the total number of letters results in 606/60.

    For those a bit more versed in “magic numbers” it’d be interesting to note that
    the sum of “Hegelian Dialectic” + “Pavlovian Fear Conditioning” = 402/42.

    And finally, “Hegelian” + “Pavlovian” + “Orwellian”= 282/26=282/(28-2), which
    “surprisingly” has everything to do with the opposite of such reality,
    “Free Speech”=90=82+8; and everything to do with “Killing Free Speech”
    =164=2*82; and “Promoting Lies” =172=-28+200;

    As they say, “every joke has a part of joke in it”.

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  52. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?

    “Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?”– Ilyana

    Ilyana,

    On the one hand, I guess I was born into the Deplorables, and OTOH I don’t even know what that means. Something Hillary Clinton is supposed to have said? And you suppose that I give a f*rt about something that she said?

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    I am only forcing you to admit that Democrats not only abandoned working people in US, but they actually betrayed them.
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  53. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    If you think that it is easy to find the truth you are mistaken.
    Maybe domestic animals are better off than wild animals.

    “If you think that it is easy to find the truth ….” What a strange thing to hypothesize about me!

    “Maybe domestic animals are better off than wild animals.” No, they aren’t, generally speaking, but that’s another strange thing so suggest. Can you relate these remarks of yours to anything in Hopkins’ essay?

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  54. Randal says:
    @JackOH
    Good comment, Randal. Unz Review appeals to the deeply pessimistic Gloomy Gus in me, which I have aplenty. Plus, the besetting sin of political dissent, which is what we do here, is paralysis by analysis, dilatoriness, moral cowardice, or call it what you will. Not a formula for political mobilization.

    Still, I've done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.

    Well I can’t deny I’m as prone to pessimism as the next aging embittered reactionary, in truth.

    But if there’s to be any solution, at the moment it looks to me like a resurgence of reactionary nationalism, and blood and soil nationalism at that, is the only prospect. Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Maybe a religious revival would also serve, but Christianity seems irretrievably damaged (just go read the stuff Rod Dreher produces at TAC and bear in mind that’s probably the very best you’ll get out of modern “Christianity”).

    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.

    Good stuff!

    Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types. I lived through most of my life as a thoroughgoing political partisan, only ever voting Conservative (before it became “Conservative” after Thatcher), and spending my time arguing for the US alliance and against unilateralists and communist sympathisers (those were very different times). And yet I never went on a single demonstration, nor saw any need to do so. Activism for Conservatives mostly meant organising election activities.

    I finally was motivated to end my general disdain for demonstrations and go on one with the vast demonstration against Blair’s stupid, criminal attack on Iraq. That was the largest political demonstration ever in the UK, by some distance. The fact that it had essentially zero effect upon the government’s actions pretty much confirmed that my previous disdain for political demonstrations had been correct.

    For the left, of course, “demonstrations” are generally about dressing up their desire to violently intimidate opponents in politically respectable terms.

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    If Rod Dreher at TAC is the best you will get out of modern Christianity, I agree that it's doomed. Fortunately, I don't believe that RD is the best you will get out of mondern Christianity. Keep looking, and perhaps you should look east.

    Frankie P
    , @peterAUS

    Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.
     
    Looks as between rock and a hard place.

    Neither is good and even if reactionary nationalism is marginally better doesn't feel good enough.
    In essence, one has to confront the current power to have it replaced with something, maybe, marginally better. Risk/reward simply ratio is simply not good enough for most people.

    Something else is needed to mobilize people.

    Just can't see it at the moment.

    The real problem with what this and similar sites are all about and people there....for a majority of people the problems seen here are simply not important.
    Individual average ECONOMY is the key....all the rest is not.
    Even better (or worse depending on angle): a promise of better individual economy for an average person. The current paradigm promises it.........that's enough.
    Free speech and such simply do not interest an average person. That's the hardest fact to swallow for all on the...say...dissent side.

    If....when....that promise isn't there anymore there could be a chance for some change. And it could go very well into totalitarian NWO, if that promises a better individual economy. More stuff for ME.

    And, true, an error in handling a confrontation between nuclear powers. The catch is, that error could go really bad.
    A couple of nukes exploding somewhere could entice "social media sheep" to start paying attention to the real world around them. And that could, again, create a chance for some change. But, again, that chance could also go bad (that NWO above).

    Actually, "Greg" above wrote it overall well, especially:

    ......doing what the powerful have done all along, strive for more more more.

     

    At the moment "neoliberals/whatever". Before national capitalists, then national leaders, then kings, then religious leaders, then....all the way down to that first rural settlement in Babylon.

    The fact is, though, that the life, overall, in most of the World is much better than 50, let alone 100 years ago. Fact.
    Moving masses to go hard against powers that be...living that life...simply not realistic.
    , @JackOH
    Randal, thanks.

    "Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types."

    Yep, massively true. But, I'd like to think a counter to that is we have the returns in on a half-century of policies that I can only describe as enormously radical and radicalizing, and, when not radical, inept and dishonest to the point of destructiveness. Even a blockhead can figure out that the policies that have been sold to us are mostly nonsense. (E. g., can anyone in his right mind believe the "solution" to the "racist", "sexist" Detroit of 1958 is the Detroit of 2018?)

    Are you accepting suggestions? Try, as an alternate phrase for your "reactionary nationalism", "restorative nationalism" or "therapeutic nationalism" or "prophylactic nationalism", just for thinking purposes. Just a suggestion. (FWIW-I'm taking it for granted no one here wants to whomp the bejesus out of Sanjay and Dujuan, but we do want national policies that stop violating ties of blood, shared national-cultural heritage, shared religious heritage, "indigeneity", and so on.)

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  55. Art says:

    How can one write an article about the closing down of free speech in the West without saying “Jew” one time?

    This will NEVER be corrected until Jews are called out.

    How is it that the world will not talk about Israeli nukes?

    What coercive power the Jews hold over humanity.

    Think Peace — Art

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  56. Frankie P says:
    @Randal
    Well I can't deny I'm as prone to pessimism as the next aging embittered reactionary, in truth.

    But if there's to be any solution, at the moment it looks to me like a resurgence of reactionary nationalism, and blood and soil nationalism at that, is the only prospect. Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Maybe a religious revival would also serve, but Christianity seems irretrievably damaged (just go read the stuff Rod Dreher produces at TAC and bear in mind that's probably the very best you'll get out of modern "Christianity").


    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.
     
    Good stuff!

    Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types. I lived through most of my life as a thoroughgoing political partisan, only ever voting Conservative (before it became "Conservative" after Thatcher), and spending my time arguing for the US alliance and against unilateralists and communist sympathisers (those were very different times). And yet I never went on a single demonstration, nor saw any need to do so. Activism for Conservatives mostly meant organising election activities.

    I finally was motivated to end my general disdain for demonstrations and go on one with the vast demonstration against Blair's stupid, criminal attack on Iraq. That was the largest political demonstration ever in the UK, by some distance. The fact that it had essentially zero effect upon the government's actions pretty much confirmed that my previous disdain for political demonstrations had been correct.

    For the left, of course, "demonstrations" are generally about dressing up their desire to violently intimidate opponents in politically respectable terms.

    If Rod Dreher at TAC is the best you will get out of modern Christianity, I agree that it’s doomed. Fortunately, I don’t believe that RD is the best you will get out of mondern Christianity. Keep looking, and perhaps you should look east.

    Frankie P

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  57. peterAUS says:
    @Randal
    Well I can't deny I'm as prone to pessimism as the next aging embittered reactionary, in truth.

    But if there's to be any solution, at the moment it looks to me like a resurgence of reactionary nationalism, and blood and soil nationalism at that, is the only prospect. Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Maybe a religious revival would also serve, but Christianity seems irretrievably damaged (just go read the stuff Rod Dreher produces at TAC and bear in mind that's probably the very best you'll get out of modern "Christianity").


    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.
     
    Good stuff!

    Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types. I lived through most of my life as a thoroughgoing political partisan, only ever voting Conservative (before it became "Conservative" after Thatcher), and spending my time arguing for the US alliance and against unilateralists and communist sympathisers (those were very different times). And yet I never went on a single demonstration, nor saw any need to do so. Activism for Conservatives mostly meant organising election activities.

    I finally was motivated to end my general disdain for demonstrations and go on one with the vast demonstration against Blair's stupid, criminal attack on Iraq. That was the largest political demonstration ever in the UK, by some distance. The fact that it had essentially zero effect upon the government's actions pretty much confirmed that my previous disdain for political demonstrations had been correct.

    For the left, of course, "demonstrations" are generally about dressing up their desire to violently intimidate opponents in politically respectable terms.

    Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Looks as between rock and a hard place.

    Neither is good and even if reactionary nationalism is marginally better doesn’t feel good enough.
    In essence, one has to confront the current power to have it replaced with something, maybe, marginally better. Risk/reward simply ratio is simply not good enough for most people.

    Something else is needed to mobilize people.

    Just can’t see it at the moment.

    The real problem with what this and similar sites are all about and people there….for a majority of people the problems seen here are simply not important.
    Individual average ECONOMY is the key….all the rest is not.
    Even better (or worse depending on angle): a promise of better individual economy for an average person. The current paradigm promises it………that’s enough.
    Free speech and such simply do not interest an average person. That’s the hardest fact to swallow for all on the…say…dissent side.

    If….when….that promise isn’t there anymore there could be a chance for some change. And it could go very well into totalitarian NWO, if that promises a better individual economy. More stuff for ME.

    And, true, an error in handling a confrontation between nuclear powers. The catch is, that error could go really bad.
    A couple of nukes exploding somewhere could entice “social media sheep” to start paying attention to the real world around them. And that could, again, create a chance for some change. But, again, that chance could also go bad (that NWO above).

    Actually, “Greg” above wrote it overall well, especially:

    ……doing what the powerful have done all along, strive for more more more.

    At the moment “neoliberals/whatever”. Before national capitalists, then national leaders, then kings, then religious leaders, then….all the way down to that first rural settlement in Babylon.

    The fact is, though, that the life, overall, in most of the World is much better than 50, let alone 100 years ago. Fact.
    Moving masses to go hard against powers that be…living that life…simply not realistic.

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  58. @jilles dykstra
    Was not the McCarthy era also a war on dissidents ?
    In any society, states Chomsky, 'there is a standard truth, if this truth is not acknowledged, no discussion is possible, except within a small group of thoese who know better'.
    Until 1990 there was a Cold War, the USSR threatened us.
    I personally saw it as a very bad joke, after the Cuba crisis.
    We now have the era of conflicting views, especially nationalism against globalism.
    The 'elites' have embraced globalism, the nationalists thus are dissenters, dissidents.

    “We now have the era of conflicting views, especially nationalism against globalism.” — jilles dykstra

    It’s more like the locals against the cosmopolitans than nationalists against globalists. Locals get some but generally precious little comfort from ‘their’ nations, less and less all the time, and also what are the nations anyway but a fragmenting, or a recognition of the reality of fragmentation, of the class of ‘locals’ — versus cosmopolites. Those of us without passports versus those with them, some with more than one passport per person. This is why or how democracy still functions and is important in the scheme of things. When you need to show a passport to vote, that’s the end of any nationalism or even just the end of any nation.

    By ‘democracy’, I mean a generalized way of looking at society — something like how Marx discussed democracy in his very early writings, like in the Rheinische Zeitung. So, Putin’s Russia is a form of democracy as, for sure, is the People’s Republic of China or even the Islamic Republic of Iran, or, say, the Palestinian Nation … or even the USA with our problematic elections, or, say, the Navajo Nation.

    Democracy, differing widely from nation to nation and not at all confined to concepts of ‘Western’ democracy, is about all we “deplorables” have going for us, other than our closeness to our local roots, our understanding of folkways of doing and of surviving that are totally opaque to the cosmopoliran ruling class who deign to appear among us only as tourists or as absentee owners who occasionally come around to check on their properties. Indeed, that is how we can distinguish the middle from the upper classes: the upper classes appear among us as absentee owners paying a visit to one of their many homes, whereas the middle classes appear among us as tourists with credit cards.

    Meanwhile, Hopkins challenges us to join him in a global revolution or, anyway, an overhauling of the entire social system … and this is like how Lenin challenged the workers to join himself, a scion of an aristocratic family. So, to start with a class analysis: upper classes within which we find the ruling classes, upper ruling class of billionaires, etc., down to the petty ruling class of police and other politicians, etc., and, eventually, we get down to the lower classes, pensioners (like myself), etc., those who are stuck where they are like peasants of old who were legally and in reality, as well as sentimentally, attached to the land. Something like that.

    So sure, I’m joining up with Hopkins, who lives in Berlin and has at least one passport, while I have none, because I don’t go anywhere. The reality of course is that Hopkins would relate to me the way Lenin would relate to some kulak — I am just fuel for the revolution, if any. But it’s very early, we have not even completed our class analysis!

    Who knows? Mao began at an early age with a complex class analysis (a document almost lost now in the dustbin of history) that went far beyond any simplistic capitalists versus workers, or, as the Wobblies put it, “bosses” versus workers. At that starting phase, Mao had no party, really, and almost not even any nation. But he wasn’t alone. When Mao was revving up, at the same time more or less, Ho Chi Minh took a job as a cook or whatever on a liner going from Saigon to Paris … so did you know that radical politics could be so adventuresome and such crazy fun? Made of such flimsy fantasies?

    I’m too old to say this, but we shall see.

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    Wasn't the best move by PTBs the end of "class warfare"? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared .............almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in "alt" world swiftly brings all sort of "you Commie" accusations.

    Actually, just waiting for some replies of the same type here.

    You can call the rulers anything, but...they are smart.

    That's why they rule and we do not.

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  59. peterAUS says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    "We now have the era of conflicting views, especially nationalism against globalism." -- jilles dykstra
     
    It's more like the locals against the cosmopolitans than nationalists against globalists. Locals get some but generally precious little comfort from 'their' nations, less and less all the time, and also what are the nations anyway but a fragmenting, or a recognition of the reality of fragmentation, of the class of 'locals' -- versus cosmopolites. Those of us without passports versus those with them, some with more than one passport per person. This is why or how democracy still functions and is important in the scheme of things. When you need to show a passport to vote, that's the end of any nationalism or even just the end of any nation.

    By 'democracy', I mean a generalized way of looking at society -- something like how Marx discussed democracy in his very early writings, like in the Rheinische Zeitung. So, Putin's Russia is a form of democracy as, for sure, is the People's Republic of China or even the Islamic Republic of Iran, or, say, the Palestinian Nation ... or even the USA with our problematic elections, or, say, the Navajo Nation.

    Democracy, differing widely from nation to nation and not at all confined to concepts of 'Western' democracy, is about all we "deplorables" have going for us, other than our closeness to our local roots, our understanding of folkways of doing and of surviving that are totally opaque to the cosmopoliran ruling class who deign to appear among us only as tourists or as absentee owners who occasionally come around to check on their properties. Indeed, that is how we can distinguish the middle from the upper classes: the upper classes appear among us as absentee owners paying a visit to one of their many homes, whereas the middle classes appear among us as tourists with credit cards.

    Meanwhile, Hopkins challenges us to join him in a global revolution or, anyway, an overhauling of the entire social system ... and this is like how Lenin challenged the workers to join himself, a scion of an aristocratic family. So, to start with a class analysis: upper classes within which we find the ruling classes, upper ruling class of billionaires, etc., down to the petty ruling class of police and other politicians, etc., and, eventually, we get down to the lower classes, pensioners (like myself), etc., those who are stuck where they are like peasants of old who were legally and in reality, as well as sentimentally, attached to the land. Something like that.

    So sure, I'm joining up with Hopkins, who lives in Berlin and has at least one passport, while I have none, because I don't go anywhere. The reality of course is that Hopkins would relate to me the way Lenin would relate to some kulak -- I am just fuel for the revolution, if any. But it's very early, we have not even completed our class analysis!

    Who knows? Mao began at an early age with a complex class analysis (a document almost lost now in the dustbin of history) that went far beyond any simplistic capitalists versus workers, or, as the Wobblies put it, "bosses" versus workers. At that starting phase, Mao had no party, really, and almost not even any nation. But he wasn't alone. When Mao was revving up, at the same time more or less, Ho Chi Minh took a job as a cook or whatever on a liner going from Saigon to Paris ... so did you know that radical politics could be so adventuresome and such crazy fun? Made of such flimsy fantasies?

    I'm too old to say this, but we shall see.

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in “alt” world swiftly brings all sort of “you Commie” accusations.

    Actually, just waiting for some replies of the same type here.

    You can call the rulers anything, but…they are smart.

    That’s why they rule and we do not.

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    peterAUS,

    My apology, somehow my reply to you came out as a reply to Ilyana Rozumova.

    BTW: I should mention that there is an alternative to class warfare: that would be what Buddhists of the Soka Gakkai International call "human revolution" which is a fundamental or cultural change that relies on restructuring of society "one individual at a time" eventually renewing the whole thing, avoiding or obviating class warfare.

    Again, we shall see.
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type. --- peterAUS
     
    It isn't a matter of "believing in" cL;ass warfare or in Marxism-Leninism or Maoism, like a "true believer" or whatever ... it's nothing like that for me. For me,, it's just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it's done. So I go to the writings of Chairman Mao and I find that the process of class warfare starts with a detailed class analysis.

    BTW: Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it's over and "we won."
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  60. @Grandpa Charlie

    "Will you ever join the Les Deplorables?"-- Ilyana
     
    Ilyana,

    On the one hand, I guess I was born into the Deplorables, and OTOH I don't even know what that means. Something Hillary Clinton is supposed to have said? And you suppose that I give a f*rt about something that she said?

    I am only forcing you to admit that Democrats not only abandoned working people in US, but they actually betrayed them.

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    Ilyana,

    No need to ''force' me to admit that the Democratic Party has betrayed the working people, as has the GOP. of course. Everybody knows that much.
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.a
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in “alt” world swiftly brings all sort of “you Commie” accusations.

    -- peterAUS
     
    Yeah, well, you know, many people get stuck in the past.

    Meanwhile, in approaching this topic -- suppression of thought and speech by a ruling class -- I first came to the question: Can we count on the Ruling Class to solve the problem for us? I chose Negative, based on observation of current trends. Then I came to the question of whether we could come up with a solution and then count on the Ruling Class to get out of the way (voluntarily surrender their power)? Negative again. That's how I found myself in Class Warfare, and I think I was not alone in that -- even you, peterAUS, seem to be thinking in such terms.

    So, it really doesn't matter at all if the term is out-dated, does it? Just as culture is upstream to politics, so also truth is upstream to style and "trending.'
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  61. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I am only forcing you to admit that Democrats not only abandoned working people in US, but they actually betrayed them.

    Ilyana,

    No need to ”force’ me to admit that the Democratic Party has betrayed the working people, as has the GOP. of course. Everybody knows that much.

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    All right. I do have to agree with you.
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  62. lavoisier says: • Website
    @yurivku

    Unfortunately, Mr. Hopkins missed the elephant in the room: The Jews
     
    The Jews are part of US society, they are integrated in it and we should treat them like American citizens/society. And the treatment should be used on whole US people (Jews included).

    The question is - Can this society be cured?

    The question is – Can this society be cured?

    Not without recognizing the danger posed to that society by the Jewish elephant in the room.

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  63. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I am only forcing you to admit that Democrats not only abandoned working people in US, but they actually betrayed them.

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.a
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in “alt” world swiftly brings all sort of “you Commie” accusations.

    – peterAUS

    Yeah, well, you know, many people get stuck in the past.

    Meanwhile, in approaching this topic — suppression of thought and speech by a ruling class — I first came to the question: Can we count on the Ruling Class to solve the problem for us? I chose Negative, based on observation of current trends. Then I came to the question of whether we could come up with a solution and then count on the Ruling Class to get out of the way (voluntarily surrender their power)? Negative again. That’s how I found myself in Class Warfare, and I think I was not alone in that — even you, peterAUS, seem to be thinking in such terms.

    So, it really doesn’t matter at all if the term is out-dated, does it? Just as culture is upstream to politics, so also truth is upstream to style and “trending.’

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  64. @peterAUS
    Wasn't the best move by PTBs the end of "class warfare"? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared .............almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in "alt" world swiftly brings all sort of "you Commie" accusations.

    Actually, just waiting for some replies of the same type here.

    You can call the rulers anything, but...they are smart.

    That's why they rule and we do not.

    peterAUS,

    My apology, somehow my reply to you came out as a reply to Ilyana Rozumova.

    BTW: I should mention that there is an alternative to class warfare: that would be what Buddhists of the Soka Gakkai International call “human revolution” which is a fundamental or cultural change that relies on restructuring of society “one individual at a time” eventually renewing the whole thing, avoiding or obviating class warfare.

    Again, we shall see.

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  65. @Randal

    I wish I had some rallying cry to end this depressing assessment with, but I have no interest in being one of these Twitter-based guerrilla leaders who tell you we can beat the corporatocracy by tweeting and donating to them on Patreon, and then going about our lives as “normal.” It’s probably going to take a little more than that, and the obvious truth is, the odds are against us. That said, I plan to make as much noise about The War on Dissent as humanly possible, until they marginalize me out of existence … or the corporate-mediated simulation that so many of us take for existence these days. What do you say, want to join me?
     
    You certainly seem to share the same general concern that I have with this aspect of the way the world is going. But you don't appear to be willing to commit to any plausible solution.

    Personally I'm willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially. Islamist jihadism might or might not work in the muslim world, but my country is not (yet) part of that world and hopefully never will be, and it has no relevance for me.

    When you dismiss that possible solution as just another "doomed attempt to revert to [a] despotic social system", you revert to being part of the problem, for me. Which isn't to say you are necessarily incorrect on the "doomed" part, but when there is no other remotely plausible solution anywhere in sight, such pessimism is merely destructive.

    “Personally I’m willing to go with reactionary nationalism as the best available option, in the US sphere especially.” — Randal

    Yeah, Randal, that’s reasonable. Any port in a storm.

    Whether it happens or not, that depends on which way the winds blow.

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  66. @Anonymous
    Right. We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section. Keep posting!

    ” We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section.” Anonymous (at #22)

    Not to mention the Jewish problem. Or the WASP problem.

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    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.
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  67. You cannot separate the ‘Jewish problem’ from the ‘WASP problem.’ — Jake

    I guess it all goes back to the Balfour Declaration, which goes back to WW I, and that of course goes back to a whole lot of sh*t. It gets complicated, and then there is the bigger narrative, the Grand Narrative that goes back to … Genesis? Circumcision was the sign of God’s covenant with Abraham (Gen 17:9–14), they say, and what I think is that circumcision is a ridiculous and primitive superstition. Time for humanity to get over it! Let boy babies keep their things intact! And I don’t think that it’s much done back in the Olde Countrye, anyway, is it?

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  68. @Anonymous
    Credulous children believe in left and right as presented by their slave masters. Who’s that old slave who said that the best slaves are those that don’t realize they are slaves?

    “Credulous children believe in left and right as presented by their slave masters. Who’s that old slave who said that the best slaves are those that don’t realize they are slaves?” — Anonymous (at #28)

    Yuh layft, yah raht, yuh layft raht layft. SOUND OFF, 1, 2, 3, 4

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  69. @Grandpa Charlie
    Ilyana,

    No need to ''force' me to admit that the Democratic Party has betrayed the working people, as has the GOP. of course. Everybody knows that much.

    All right. I do have to agree with you.

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  70. @Grandpa Charlie

    " We should feel safe that our ideas, thoughts and feelings are provoked, stolen, stored and datamined via Unz Review. Each time Orwell, Kafka and the Russians comes up in social media we run like dogs to wet the comments section." Anonymous (at #22)
     
    Not to mention the Jewish problem. Or the WASP problem.

    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.

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    what Kafka does stand for
     
    kafka stands for a jackdaw
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.

    --- Ilyana
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP7pcGR416A

    And if you need more dissent that ... try this ...

    The Reality of Truth (full length)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGIzduDv1xo
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  71. utu says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.

    what Kafka does stand for

    kafka stands for a jackdaw

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  72. JackOH says:
    @Randal
    Well I can't deny I'm as prone to pessimism as the next aging embittered reactionary, in truth.

    But if there's to be any solution, at the moment it looks to me like a resurgence of reactionary nationalism, and blood and soil nationalism at that, is the only prospect. Which is not to say that those would be without their own problems if enthusiastically enacted, but a resurgence of them into the political maintream seems to be the only way to counter the ongoing active imposition of ideological dogmatic untruths about genetics, race, and nation that are profoundly (and as I noted, potentially terminally) harmful.

    Maybe a religious revival would also serve, but Christianity seems irretrievably damaged (just go read the stuff Rod Dreher produces at TAC and bear in mind that's probably the very best you'll get out of modern "Christianity").


    Still, I’ve done a bit to promote the Unz Review in my area, and suggested on these pages a while ago a temperate, responsible march on Washington as a way of giving our shared grievances a bit of breathing room.
     
    Good stuff!

    Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types. I lived through most of my life as a thoroughgoing political partisan, only ever voting Conservative (before it became "Conservative" after Thatcher), and spending my time arguing for the US alliance and against unilateralists and communist sympathisers (those were very different times). And yet I never went on a single demonstration, nor saw any need to do so. Activism for Conservatives mostly meant organising election activities.

    I finally was motivated to end my general disdain for demonstrations and go on one with the vast demonstration against Blair's stupid, criminal attack on Iraq. That was the largest political demonstration ever in the UK, by some distance. The fact that it had essentially zero effect upon the government's actions pretty much confirmed that my previous disdain for political demonstrations had been correct.

    For the left, of course, "demonstrations" are generally about dressing up their desire to violently intimidate opponents in politically respectable terms.

    Randal, thanks.

    “Part of the problem though is that conservatives just are not demonstrating types.”

    Yep, massively true. But, I’d like to think a counter to that is we have the returns in on a half-century of policies that I can only describe as enormously radical and radicalizing, and, when not radical, inept and dishonest to the point of destructiveness. Even a blockhead can figure out that the policies that have been sold to us are mostly nonsense. (E. g., can anyone in his right mind believe the “solution” to the “racist”, “sexist” Detroit of 1958 is the Detroit of 2018?)

    Are you accepting suggestions? Try, as an alternate phrase for your “reactionary nationalism”, “restorative nationalism” or “therapeutic nationalism” or “prophylactic nationalism”, just for thinking purposes. Just a suggestion. (FWIW-I’m taking it for granted no one here wants to whomp the bejesus out of Sanjay and Dujuan, but we do want national policies that stop violating ties of blood, shared national-cultural heritage, shared religious heritage, “indigeneity”, and so on.)

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  73. Alan Reid says:

    Having had both a Twitter, and a Facebook account, and deleting them both 2 or 3 days after signing up, i sit in constant wonder at the masses still handing over all the things they should not.

    After a pair of sessions on the first few days of these systems i could tell the exact reason for their roll out, now after years and years of time there is still a flood of users willing to expose themselves to a tidal wave of dangers because of vanity.

    The men that built these surveillance systems have had untold success in getting the content they were after, and you still daily think you are not being used one hundred percent for that vanity, Smart people these spook types, they really hit this one out of the park.

    Get off Facebook and Twitter, Please, you are just being played like a fiddle.

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    Trust me. Some people go on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to leave their comments
    after "the tidal wave of danger" came to them first, without asking for permission.
    So they know from first hand how ugly the reality is and try to warn others.
    , @RobinG

    Get off Facebook and Twitter
     
    You are not just being played, you are being programmed.
    [The rewired brain: "Dopamine driven ... social validation feedback loop."]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J54k7WrbfMg
    Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya - Facebook is 'Ripping Apart Society'
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  74. @Alan Reid
    Having had both a Twitter, and a Facebook account, and deleting them both 2 or 3 days after signing up, i sit in constant wonder at the masses still handing over all the things they should not.

    After a pair of sessions on the first few days of these systems i could tell the exact reason for their roll out, now after years and years of time there is still a flood of users willing to expose themselves to a tidal wave of dangers because of vanity.

    The men that built these surveillance systems have had untold success in getting the content they were after, and you still daily think you are not being used one hundred percent for that vanity, Smart people these spook types, they really hit this one out of the park.

    Get off Facebook and Twitter, Please, you are just being played like a fiddle.

    Trust me. Some people go on Facebook, Twitter, etc. to leave their comments
    after “the tidal wave of danger” came to them first, without asking for permission.
    So they know from first hand how ugly the reality is and try to warn others.

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  75. @yurivku
    It's easy to say that not us to blame, it's all about Jews )
    No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything. But almost same problem is in Russia

    It’s easy to say that not us to blame, it’s all about Jews ) … No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything.

    I have never maintained that all the white goyim are blameless. Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons and the Jewish banking elite. It first began centuries ago in England, under Oliver Cromwell. However, most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons. So blaming all of us alike is wrong. There were many brave Americans–ranging from Henry Ford to Charles Lindhberg to Father Coughlin–who openly denounced this disgraceful sell-out of the public … all to no avail though.

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    "Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons, [WASPs] and the Jewish banking elite. ... most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons." -- yurivku
     
    A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, which includes, e.g., Morgan as in J. P. Morgan. Morgan is a Celtic name of Welsh origin, the name is traditionally used in Wales, Brittany and Scotland. ... The male name is a descendant of Old Welsh Morcant, possibly derived from mor (meaning "sea") and cant (meaning "circle"), with the meaning "sea chief" or "sea defender".
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  77. RobinG says:
    @Alan Reid
    Having had both a Twitter, and a Facebook account, and deleting them both 2 or 3 days after signing up, i sit in constant wonder at the masses still handing over all the things they should not.

    After a pair of sessions on the first few days of these systems i could tell the exact reason for their roll out, now after years and years of time there is still a flood of users willing to expose themselves to a tidal wave of dangers because of vanity.

    The men that built these surveillance systems have had untold success in getting the content they were after, and you still daily think you are not being used one hundred percent for that vanity, Smart people these spook types, they really hit this one out of the park.

    Get off Facebook and Twitter, Please, you are just being played like a fiddle.

    Get off Facebook and Twitter

    You are not just being played, you are being programmed.
    [The rewired brain: "Dopamine driven ... social validation feedback loop."]

    Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya – Facebook is ‘Ripping Apart Society’

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  78. @SunBakedSuburb
    American elites are neoliberal and neoconservative. They have found religion in identity politics or cynically use it as a weapon against their White enemies.

    It's hard to see how this doesn't turn bloody.

    Once the barbarians are in the gates, all politics become identity politics. In the US the gates collapsed in 1965. In the UK in 1948. They’ve been falling like dominos thruout the West ever since. In another generation or so national borders in the West will look more illogical n artificial than do today’s borders in the MidEast.

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  80. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.

    Grandpa!
    Who is Kafka? I do know what Orwell did stand for. I do not know what Kafka does stand for.

    — Ilyana

    And if you need more dissent that … try this …

    The Reality of Truth (full length)

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  81. Jake says:
    @peterAUS

    ...when there is no other remotely plausible solution...
     
    Well....that appears to be the key.

    Nationalism has some deep flaws too. Maybe even more dangerous than this "neoliberalism".

    Maybe the point is to create that solution. Some theory, platform.........some idea.
    Some vision.

    Maybe it will happen. One never knows.

    Nationalism has deep flaws only for those who hate the nation.

    What you mean is that nationalism that morphs into imperialism has deep flaws. But that is imperialism.

    And Liberal Globalist America is brutally imperialist to its very core.

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    Simplistic.

    Nationalism will always create fertile ground for wars between nations.
    The very idea of European Union was to prevent that happening again.
    That the idea got hijacked is the problem. Power corrupts.

    I guarantee you, should the iron grip of superpower military relaxes we'll have dozens of local wars all around the globe.
    Some of them in Europe.
    Some of them between nations having nuclear weapons.

    The solution to the current paradigm is not nationalism, IMHO.
    It is something else.
    True, it should have elements of nationalism...how much, well, that is the question. And nationalism has a tendency to morph and explode in instant. From respecting own culture to rabid hate for the Other. Funny thing. Irrational and powerful.

    Anyway.
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  82. peterAUS says:
    @Jake
    Nationalism has deep flaws only for those who hate the nation.

    What you mean is that nationalism that morphs into imperialism has deep flaws. But that is imperialism.

    And Liberal Globalist America is brutally imperialist to its very core.

    Simplistic.

    Nationalism will always create fertile ground for wars between nations.
    The very idea of European Union was to prevent that happening again.
    That the idea got hijacked is the problem. Power corrupts.

    I guarantee you, should the iron grip of superpower military relaxes we’ll have dozens of local wars all around the globe.
    Some of them in Europe.
    Some of them between nations having nuclear weapons.

    The solution to the current paradigm is not nationalism, IMHO.
    It is something else.
    True, it should have elements of nationalism…how much, well, that is the question. And nationalism has a tendency to morph and explode in instant. From respecting own culture to rabid hate for the Other. Funny thing. Irrational and powerful.

    Anyway.

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    Yes the idea of EU did get hijacked.
    Originally it had some Catholic influence. Support of Habsburgs for examples.
    Freemason Churchill originally a supporter of EU, later said it was to Christian,
    and split the movement.

    Also the effect of WW2, caused American influence to be greater inside Europe.
    And the CIA became involved in the project. Europe became more liberal, neocon and neoliberal.

    You have the French-German part, with the Italians playing a smaller role.
    The Netherlands, Belgium kinda fear the French-German domination so they like to cooperate with UK and US. And finally countries like UK and Poland are connected to the US.

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  83. polskijoe says:
    @peterAUS
    Simplistic.

    Nationalism will always create fertile ground for wars between nations.
    The very idea of European Union was to prevent that happening again.
    That the idea got hijacked is the problem. Power corrupts.

    I guarantee you, should the iron grip of superpower military relaxes we'll have dozens of local wars all around the globe.
    Some of them in Europe.
    Some of them between nations having nuclear weapons.

    The solution to the current paradigm is not nationalism, IMHO.
    It is something else.
    True, it should have elements of nationalism...how much, well, that is the question. And nationalism has a tendency to morph and explode in instant. From respecting own culture to rabid hate for the Other. Funny thing. Irrational and powerful.

    Anyway.

    Yes the idea of EU did get hijacked.
    Originally it had some Catholic influence. Support of Habsburgs for examples.
    Freemason Churchill originally a supporter of EU, later said it was to Christian,
    and split the movement.

    Also the effect of WW2, caused American influence to be greater inside Europe.
    And the CIA became involved in the project. Europe became more liberal, neocon and neoliberal.

    You have the French-German part, with the Italians playing a smaller role.
    The Netherlands, Belgium kinda fear the French-German domination so they like to cooperate with UK and US. And finally countries like UK and Poland are connected to the US.

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    Well...my theory is that what happened was, is, simply "power corrupts".

    And, even more important, the people in power got detached from people they have that power over.Probably because the power corrupts, hubris etc.Ancient stuff.

    That was and is the problem.

    Now, how to fix it, or is it even possible, we'll see.
    Hopefully.
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  84. peterAUS says:
    @polskijoe
    Yes the idea of EU did get hijacked.
    Originally it had some Catholic influence. Support of Habsburgs for examples.
    Freemason Churchill originally a supporter of EU, later said it was to Christian,
    and split the movement.

    Also the effect of WW2, caused American influence to be greater inside Europe.
    And the CIA became involved in the project. Europe became more liberal, neocon and neoliberal.

    You have the French-German part, with the Italians playing a smaller role.
    The Netherlands, Belgium kinda fear the French-German domination so they like to cooperate with UK and US. And finally countries like UK and Poland are connected to the US.

    Well…my theory is that what happened was, is, simply “power corrupts”.

    And, even more important, the people in power got detached from people they have that power over.Probably because the power corrupts, hubris etc.Ancient stuff.

    That was and is the problem.

    Now, how to fix it, or is it even possible, we’ll see.
    Hopefully.

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  85. @peterAUS
    Wasn't the best move by PTBs the end of "class warfare"? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared .............almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type.
    And, mentioning it anywhere in "alt" world swiftly brings all sort of "you Commie" accusations.

    Actually, just waiting for some replies of the same type here.

    You can call the rulers anything, but...they are smart.

    That's why they rule and we do not.

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type. — peterAUS

    It isn’t a matter of “believing in” cL;ass warfare or in Marxism-Leninism or Maoism, like a “true believer” or whatever … it’s nothing like that for me. For me,, it’s just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it’s done. So I go to the writings of Chairman Mao and I find that the process of class warfare starts with a detailed class analysis.

    BTW: Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it’s over and “we won.”

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    ....it’s just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it’s done.
     
    Well...two options.

    One:
    You don't accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case "how" from Mao (and the rest of such revolutionaries) simply doesn't work. Simple as that.

    Two:
    You do accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case, still, "how" as with those examples won't work either. Different people, different culture.
    You'll notice that those revolutions happened in.....certain.....societies. West, US in particular, isn't that type.

    Now, there are some elements that could be used as "how", but, you'll find even better examples in some other social upheavals.

    My two cents.
    One can probably write big books about that.

    Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it’s over and “we won.”
     
    Well...in almost any society in history and even every community on Earth now being one of "1%" is very good.
    As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. Actually they had more wealth and power than Buffet and co. No mass executions and/or camps.
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  86. peterAUS says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    Wasn’t the best move by PTBs the end of “class warfare”? Died with the fall of Soviet Union.

    The expression simply disapeared ………….almost everywhere.
    Well, except among some rabid Communists of the worst type. --- peterAUS
     
    It isn't a matter of "believing in" cL;ass warfare or in Marxism-Leninism or Maoism, like a "true believer" or whatever ... it's nothing like that for me. For me,, it's just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it's done. So I go to the writings of Chairman Mao and I find that the process of class warfare starts with a detailed class analysis.

    BTW: Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it's over and "we won."

    ….it’s just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it’s done.

    Well…two options.

    One:
    You don’t accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case “how” from Mao (and the rest of such revolutionaries) simply doesn’t work. Simple as that.

    Two:
    You do accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case, still, “how” as with those examples won’t work either. Different people, different culture.
    You’ll notice that those revolutions happened in…..certain…..societies. West, US in particular, isn’t that type.

    Now, there are some elements that could be used as “how”, but, you’ll find even better examples in some other social upheavals.

    My two cents.
    One can probably write big books about that.

    Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it’s over and “we won.”

    Well…in almost any society in history and even every community on Earth now being one of “1%” is very good.
    As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. Actually they had more wealth and power than Buffet and co. No mass executions and/or camps.

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    “1%” is very good. As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. -- peterAUS
     
    Are you bragging or complaining or just pretending to argue with the straw man you have set up? Because you are not responding to my comments except in a narrow nitpicking way. Nobody is interested in arguing "Communism" as though this were 1932 all over again! But I am interested in investigating Hopkins' challenge to us to join him in his endeavor on behalf of liberty. And, in that regard, I am interested in your "better examples in some other social upheavals" to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?
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  87. @Seamus Padraig

    It’s easy to say that not us to blame, it’s all about Jews ) ... No, that is you to blame , you allowed them to get everything.
     
    I have never maintained that all the white goyim are blameless. Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons and the Jewish banking elite. It first began centuries ago in England, under Oliver Cromwell. However, most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons. So blaming all of us alike is wrong. There were many brave Americans--ranging from Henry Ford to Charles Lindhberg to Father Coughlin--who openly denounced this disgraceful sell-out of the public ... all to no avail though.

    “Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons, [WASPs] and the Jewish banking elite. … most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons.” — yurivku

    A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, which includes, e.g., Morgan as in J. P. Morgan. Morgan is a Celtic name of Welsh origin, the name is traditionally used in Wales, Brittany and Scotland. … The male name is a descendant of Old Welsh Morcant, possibly derived from mor (meaning “sea”) and cant (meaning “circle”), with the meaning “sea chief” or “sea defender”.

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    "A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, "

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.
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  88. @Grandpa Charlie

    "Our present day ruling class was the product of a historic alliance between upper-class Anglo-Saxons, [WASPs] and the Jewish banking elite. ... most of the white goyim in America (and elsewhere) are not upper-class Anglo-Saxons." -- yurivku
     
    A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, which includes, e.g., Morgan as in J. P. Morgan. Morgan is a Celtic name of Welsh origin, the name is traditionally used in Wales, Brittany and Scotland. ... The male name is a descendant of Old Welsh Morcant, possibly derived from mor (meaning "sea") and cant (meaning "circle"), with the meaning "sea chief" or "sea defender".

    “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ”

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.

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    “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ”
     
    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the Europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.
     
    Norman Davies is good on this (ref. his fascinating book, "Vanished Kingdoms").

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanished-Kingdoms-History-Half-Forgotten-Europe/dp/0141048867/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517449153&sr=1-2&refinements=p_27%3ANorman+Davies

    When Julius Caesar invaded Britain (55BC) the Celts dominated Ireland and what is now Scotland (having emigrated from Ireland). The people that the Romans met in what is now England, were the long time native population, the Welsh speaking Old British. They are still there, but only as a remnant population (still speaking Welsh), and located in the more N.E. parts of what is now the region of Wales. The rest of them were defeated/ absorbed by the Germanic Saxon invaders who took over most of the British Isles apart from the Scottish Highlands (and gave Great Britain the German derived English language). The Roman occupation was ethnically irrelevant as Romans found the British Isles the least attractive part of the Empire and never settled there.

    In David Hackett Fischer's equally excellent "Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America"

    https://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-cultural/dp/0195069056/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517450649&sr=1-1&keywords=albion%27s+seed+by+david+hackett+fischer

    he shows that the first British settlers in North America also divided along ethnic lines, with the Celts (Scots-Irish) heading for places like Appalachia while the English (Anglo-Saxons including the Welsh ethnic component) settled the South and East coasts. The South got an element of the British aristocracy from Southern England and the East got many settlers from the Midlands and Northern Britain along with religious minorities like the Quakers.
    , @polskijoe
    The point is that most sources will throw people like the Morgans and others
    into the WASP category which is interpreted differently by individuals.

    The wasp in the US resisted Jewish power (although could never get rid of it).
    In the end many of these types ended up slowly succumbing to the pressure.

    WASP werent agreeing with Jews on many issues, until Balfour declaration,
    and later creation of Zionism and post Holocaust. Where they either allied or became neutral (depending on faction).

    Before the Anglos prefered Arabic oil. Then they split on Arabic-Jewish. (UK remains like this today, while the US is more Zionist and Jewish then ever).

    WASP power lowered somewhere between 1930-1960.
    Catholics made gains. And Jews even more gains.

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  89. “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ” [Grandpa]

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. — Twodees Partain

    Yeah, as though I said that Celts were Anglo Saxons, which I never said! Which you would know if you would bother to read before responding!

    Look, Twodees, I did not say that the problem was that the term “Anglo-Saxon” leaves out “Celtic” — so why do you put “No” in front of your remark as though I had said such a thing, and then try to make me out as saying what I never said — that Celts are Anglo-Saxons.

    What I said is that the problem with the “WASP category” is that it leaves out Celtic, not that the problem with the term ‘Anglo Saxon’ is that it leaves out Celtic! In other words, as should be clear from my reference to J. P. Morgan, the way the term WASP is used as describing the White anglophone ruling class, it should have included ethnic Celts, but it doesn’t.

    Are you trying to be annoying? Please try to read before responding!

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    "Which you would know if you would bother to read before responding!"

    A bitch, isn't it?
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  90. Miro23 says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, "

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.

    “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ”

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the Europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.

    Norman Davies is good on this (ref. his fascinating book, “Vanished Kingdoms”).

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanished-Kingdoms-History-Half-Forgotten-Europe/dp/0141048867/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517449153&sr=1-2&refinements=p_27%3ANorman+Davies

    When Julius Caesar invaded Britain (55BC) the Celts dominated Ireland and what is now Scotland (having emigrated from Ireland). The people that the Romans met in what is now England, were the long time native population, the Welsh speaking Old British. They are still there, but only as a remnant population (still speaking Welsh), and located in the more N.E. parts of what is now the region of Wales. The rest of them were defeated/ absorbed by the Germanic Saxon invaders who took over most of the British Isles apart from the Scottish Highlands (and gave Great Britain the German derived English language). The Roman occupation was ethnically irrelevant as Romans found the British Isles the least attractive part of the Empire and never settled there.

    In David Hackett Fischer’s equally excellent “Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America”

    https://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-cultural/dp/0195069056/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517450649&sr=1-1&keywords=albion%27s+seed+by+david+hackett+fischer

    he shows that the first British settlers in North America also divided along ethnic lines, with the Celts (Scots-Irish) heading for places like Appalachia while the English (Anglo-Saxons including the Welsh ethnic component) settled the South and East coasts. The South got an element of the British aristocracy from Southern England and the East got many settlers from the Midlands and Northern Britain along with religious minorities like the Quakers.

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    Good observations. Another good book is:

    https://www.amazon.com/Born-Fighting-Scots-Irish-Shaped-America/dp/0767916891/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517578150&sr=8-1&keywords=born+fighting+james+webb

    Webb is persona non grata with neocons and their faux conservative GOPtards for his resistance to W's wars. Webb seems to me to be one of the last surviving Bluedogs. His eat was taken in the Senate by the turd known as FTK (Fucking Timmy Kaine) to Virginia conservatives.
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  91. RobinG says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ” [Grandpa]

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. -- Twodees Partain
     
    Yeah, as though I said that Celts were Anglo Saxons, which I never said! Which you would know if you would bother to read before responding!

    Look, Twodees, I did not say that the problem was that the term "Anglo-Saxon" leaves out "Celtic" -- so why do you put "No" in front of your remark as though I had said such a thing, and then try to make me out as saying what I never said -- that Celts are Anglo-Saxons.

    What I said is that the problem with the "WASP category" is that it leaves out Celtic, not that the problem with the term 'Anglo Saxon' is that it leaves out Celtic! In other words, as should be clear from my reference to J. P. Morgan, the way the term WASP is used as describing the White anglophone ruling class, it should have included ethnic Celts, but it doesn't.

    Are you trying to be annoying? Please try to read before responding!

    “Which you would know if you would bother to read before responding!”

    A bitch, isn’t it?

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  92. @peterAUS

    ....it’s just a matter of Hopkins was talking about combating or (eventually, inexorably) overthrowing the existing power structure, so I figure the thing is to go to people who have successfully done that and find out how it’s done.
     
    Well...two options.

    One:
    You don't accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case "how" from Mao (and the rest of such revolutionaries) simply doesn't work. Simple as that.

    Two:
    You do accept class warfare as a crucial element of the power struggle in society.
    In that case, still, "how" as with those examples won't work either. Different people, different culture.
    You'll notice that those revolutions happened in.....certain.....societies. West, US in particular, isn't that type.

    Now, there are some elements that could be used as "how", but, you'll find even better examples in some other social upheavals.

    My two cents.
    One can probably write big books about that.

    Billionaire buffet has been quoted on class warfare as saying that it’s over and “we won.”
     
    Well...in almost any society in history and even every community on Earth now being one of "1%" is very good.
    As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. Actually they had more wealth and power than Buffet and co. No mass executions and/or camps.

    “1%” is very good. As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. — peterAUS

    Are you bragging or complaining or just pretending to argue with the straw man you have set up? Because you are not responding to my comments except in a narrow nitpicking way. Nobody is interested in arguing “Communism” as though this were 1932 all over again! But I am interested in investigating Hopkins’ challenge to us to join him in his endeavor on behalf of liberty. And, in that regard, I am interested in your “better examples in some other social upheavals” to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?

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    I am interested in your “better examples in some other social upheavals” to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?
     
    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    BTW, most of them didn't have the luxury of 2nd Amendment and "state security" there was a bit more ruthless than the same apparatus currently in West/US.
    Still, it worked.
    Somehow.

    But, all that is academic.
    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed.
    Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there.

    Catch 22.
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  93. peterAUS says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    “1%” is very good. As a matter of fact, Mao and similar types were of such types on their own turf. -- peterAUS
     
    Are you bragging or complaining or just pretending to argue with the straw man you have set up? Because you are not responding to my comments except in a narrow nitpicking way. Nobody is interested in arguing "Communism" as though this were 1932 all over again! But I am interested in investigating Hopkins' challenge to us to join him in his endeavor on behalf of liberty. And, in that regard, I am interested in your "better examples in some other social upheavals" to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?

    I am interested in your “better examples in some other social upheavals” to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?

    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    BTW, most of them didn’t have the luxury of 2nd Amendment and “state security” there was a bit more ruthless than the same apparatus currently in West/US.
    Still, it worked.
    Somehow.

    But, all that is academic.
    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed.
    Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there.

    Catch 22.

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    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed. Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there

    --- peterAUS
     
    Thank you for excellent and timely response from you, much appreciated (sorry I could not respond sooner). For starters, I have found a fair resource on the subject at history.com: POLITICAL CHANGES IN EASTERN EUROPE 1989-2001 --
    https://selfstudyhistory.com/2015/01/21/political-changes-in-eastern-europe-1989-2001/

    My own memories from that period are mostly about huge spikes in suicide rates in many of the identified countries, which I guess demonstrates my morbid interests.

    Getting back to trying to figure out the prospects for USA, we could say that we are looking at something that may happen (or not) in the rather distant future, since (based on my own personal observations) the economy is hardly "in shambles," although maybe society is falling apart, slowly if inexorably. But the thing is that so long as the economy continues to crank over, a society can be falling apart for an awfully long time before it is pronounced dead.

    Meanwhile, I have thought a lot about Hopkins' experiences, considering that he is located in Berlin, and I have been comparing his remarks with remarks of the great British historian David Irving about his (Irving's) incarceration in Austria for what are generally (in Europe anyway) called 'hate crimes'. Here's Hopkins generally describing what he sees trending:

    "[R]esentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen."
     
    Hopkins' complaints are about methods that are much softer than anything employed against Irving or revolutionary heroes of yore. Hopkins seems to be mainly worried about the effects of the corporatocracy's control over social and other media, although also over finance (the medium of money, the medium of exchange). Very 1984-ish. Like: "we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you." Ultimately, of course, it can get physical and horrifying, as it did in Charlottesville here in USA. Or, as in the case of Ai Wei-wei -- ultimately, Ai ended in jail or in some form of detention that has never been defined or even well described ... but then, in the context of a series of international incidents centered on Ai, he was released from jail and even allowed to travel freely, not only in China but anywhere his passport could take him. Ai describes his time in Chinese detention as "hellish." But he's out now, and more famous and arguably more influential than ever.

    How do we 'fight' this kind of tyranny, this soft tyranny exercised by gargantuan powers, although you can feel the iron fingers under the gloves at any time ?

    I have no answers, and I note that Hopkins himself calls our insurgency "doomed." Nonetheless, I am interested. Considering Eastern Europe in the aftermath to the Soviet era, it may be that just as Communism imploded, so also USA's ZOG is going to implode, so there may be precedents worth considering. (Lukashenko, in Belarus, changing very little since the collapse of Communism?)

    I continue to think that we should be very thankful to our forefathers that they bequeathed to us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I guess that's how I would translate Hopkins' challenge to Americans at this time: How can we best preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?
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  94. @Wally
    You're on your way to freedom.
    For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    The "Holocau$t Industry" in court:
    'Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, ... but, but, well, umm, we can't show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we're Zionists.'
     
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    Wally,

    The video you post titled Chemistry of Auschwitz is convincing but also technical and boring to an extreme. By contrast, this video by David Irving is not only convincing but compelling and interesting from start to finish. It really explains for Americans the horrible injustice of the European system. We are so fortunate to have our Constitution and the tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

    We must protect and preserve that by all means available to us. That’s really what has been under attack by antifa and BLM, isn’t it?

    BTW: By all accounts, the Chinese system is ten times worse!

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  95. polskijoe says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, "

    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.

    The point is that most sources will throw people like the Morgans and others
    into the WASP category which is interpreted differently by individuals.

    The wasp in the US resisted Jewish power (although could never get rid of it).
    In the end many of these types ended up slowly succumbing to the pressure.

    WASP werent agreeing with Jews on many issues, until Balfour declaration,
    and later creation of Zionism and post Holocaust. Where they either allied or became neutral (depending on faction).

    Before the Anglos prefered Arabic oil. Then they split on Arabic-Jewish. (UK remains like this today, while the US is more Zionist and Jewish then ever).

    WASP power lowered somewhere between 1930-1960.
    Catholics made gains. And Jews even more gains.

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  96. @peterAUS

    I am interested in your “better examples in some other social upheavals” to use as guides in any such projects. And maybe some other Unzers would also be interested. So could you name one or more of them, please?
     
    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    BTW, most of them didn't have the luxury of 2nd Amendment and "state security" there was a bit more ruthless than the same apparatus currently in West/US.
    Still, it worked.
    Somehow.

    But, all that is academic.
    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed.
    Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there.

    Catch 22.

    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed. Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there

    — peterAUS

    Thank you for excellent and timely response from you, much appreciated (sorry I could not respond sooner). For starters, I have found a fair resource on the subject at history.com: POLITICAL CHANGES IN EASTERN EUROPE 1989-2001 –

    https://selfstudyhistory.com/2015/01/21/political-changes-in-eastern-europe-1989-2001/

    My own memories from that period are mostly about huge spikes in suicide rates in many of the identified countries, which I guess demonstrates my morbid interests.

    Getting back to trying to figure out the prospects for USA, we could say that we are looking at something that may happen (or not) in the rather distant future, since (based on my own personal observations) the economy is hardly “in shambles,” although maybe society is falling apart, slowly if inexorably. But the thing is that so long as the economy continues to crank over, a society can be falling apart for an awfully long time before it is pronounced dead.

    Meanwhile, I have thought a lot about Hopkins’ experiences, considering that he is located in Berlin, and I have been comparing his remarks with remarks of the great British historian David Irving about his (Irving’s) incarceration in Austria for what are generally (in Europe anyway) called ‘hate crimes’. Here’s Hopkins generally describing what he sees trending:

    “[R]esentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen.”

    Hopkins’ complaints are about methods that are much softer than anything employed against Irving or revolutionary heroes of yore. Hopkins seems to be mainly worried about the effects of the corporatocracy’s control over social and other media, although also over finance (the medium of money, the medium of exchange). Very 1984-ish. Like: “we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you.” Ultimately, of course, it can get physical and horrifying, as it did in Charlottesville here in USA. Or, as in the case of Ai Wei-wei — ultimately, Ai ended in jail or in some form of detention that has never been defined or even well described … but then, in the context of a series of international incidents centered on Ai, he was released from jail and even allowed to travel freely, not only in China but anywhere his passport could take him. Ai describes his time in Chinese detention as “hellish.” But he’s out now, and more famous and arguably more influential than ever.

    How do we ‘fight’ this kind of tyranny, this soft tyranny exercised by gargantuan powers, although you can feel the iron fingers under the gloves at any time ?

    I have no answers, and I note that Hopkins himself calls our insurgency “doomed.” Nonetheless, I am interested. Considering Eastern Europe in the aftermath to the Soviet era, it may be that just as Communism imploded, so also USA’s ZOG is going to implode, so there may be precedents worth considering. (Lukashenko, in Belarus, changing very little since the collapse of Communism?)

    I continue to think that we should be very thankful to our forefathers that they bequeathed to us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I guess that’s how I would translate Hopkins’ challenge to Americans at this time: How can we best preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

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    Thank you for excellent and timely response from you, much appreciated (sorry I could not respond sooner).
     
    Well, that’s something of a surprise. 9 times of 10 when I mention that I get almost hostile reply from an average American.

    My own memories from that period are mostly about huge spikes in suicide rates in many of the identified countries, which I guess demonstrates my morbid interests.
     
    That’s definitely one way to look at it. Probably similar to rising suicide rates in certain groups in US society.
    I’d suggest, though, on focusing on nationalist populist movements, especially on methods of challenging state authority. Plenty of material available on Internet for those interested in the subject.

    Getting back to trying to figure out the prospects for USA, we could say that we are looking at something that may happen (or not) in the rather distant future, since (based on my own personal observations) the economy is hardly “in shambles,” although maybe society is falling apart, slowly if inexorably.
     
    Agree.

    But the thing is that so long as the economy continues to crank over, a society can be falling apart for an awfully long time before it is pronounced dead.
     
    Agree. And, at the same time, we’ll see rising powers of the state: surveillance and militarized police.

    “[R]esentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen.”
     
    Agree, up to a point.
    Wanting not letting to happen and actually not letting to happen are two different things.
    This is a huge topic, but, the power of nationalism and religion is enormous. On top of it, it’s irrational, hard, almost impossible to control.
    So, technocrats managing the current paradigm have no solution there regardless of mechanisms at their disposals. They don’t get it, hence, they can’t really counter it. In fact, they can create and inflame it.
    Like: “we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you.”
    Doesn’t work that way.
    In those countries I mentioned above the Power did all that and much more. Didn’t work. Actually made things worse.
    Now, this:

    Ultimately, of course, it can get physical and horrifying, as it did in Charlottesville here in USA.
     
    THAT is the problem. At the moment, that is. The attitude.
    It was not physical and especially not horrifying. It was……….nothing.
    Compare that to ethnic warfare in former Yugoslavia and breakup states of Soviet Union.

    How do we ‘fight’ this kind of tyranny, this soft tyranny exercised by gargantuan powers, although you can feel the iron fingers under the gloves at any time?
     
    Well….simple I guess.
    For a starter a group of rich and powerful people who do feel the same recruit and fund a think tank which will produce a vision and a plan how to achieve that.
    Failing that a decent group of average people who feel the same crowdfund the same think tank.

    ….. I note that Hopkins himself calls our insurgency “doomed.”
     
    He’s wrong. Anything is possible. Maybe the globalization is doomed. It could create M.A.D. and then everything is doomed.
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  97. @Miro23


    “A big problem with the WASP category is that it leaves out the ethnic Celtic category, ”
     
    No, Celts are not Anglo Saxons. The Celts are indigenous tribes who were on the islands when the Europeans arrived, first the Romans then the Angles and the Saxons. Celts who came to North America are not part of the WASP ethnicity.
     
    Norman Davies is good on this (ref. his fascinating book, "Vanished Kingdoms").

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanished-Kingdoms-History-Half-Forgotten-Europe/dp/0141048867/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517449153&sr=1-2&refinements=p_27%3ANorman+Davies

    When Julius Caesar invaded Britain (55BC) the Celts dominated Ireland and what is now Scotland (having emigrated from Ireland). The people that the Romans met in what is now England, were the long time native population, the Welsh speaking Old British. They are still there, but only as a remnant population (still speaking Welsh), and located in the more N.E. parts of what is now the region of Wales. The rest of them were defeated/ absorbed by the Germanic Saxon invaders who took over most of the British Isles apart from the Scottish Highlands (and gave Great Britain the German derived English language). The Roman occupation was ethnically irrelevant as Romans found the British Isles the least attractive part of the Empire and never settled there.

    In David Hackett Fischer's equally excellent "Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America"

    https://www.amazon.com/Albions-Seed-British-Folkways-cultural/dp/0195069056/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517450649&sr=1-1&keywords=albion%27s+seed+by+david+hackett+fischer

    he shows that the first British settlers in North America also divided along ethnic lines, with the Celts (Scots-Irish) heading for places like Appalachia while the English (Anglo-Saxons including the Welsh ethnic component) settled the South and East coasts. The South got an element of the British aristocracy from Southern England and the East got many settlers from the Midlands and Northern Britain along with religious minorities like the Quakers.

    Good observations. Another good book is:

    https://www.amazon.com/Born-Fighting-Scots-Irish-Shaped-America/dp/0767916891/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517578150&sr=8-1&keywords=born+fighting+james+webb

    Webb is persona non grata with neocons and their faux conservative GOPtards for his resistance to W’s wars. Webb seems to me to be one of the last surviving Bluedogs. His eat was taken in the Senate by the turd known as FTK (Fucking Timmy Kaine) to Virginia conservatives.

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  98. peterAUS says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    Nationalist movements in Eastern Europe, period 1989-2001.

    People then and there were in societies falling apart with economy in shambles and average family struggling to get fed and clothed. Even the underclass in the current West lives better than the middle class then and there

    --- peterAUS
     
    Thank you for excellent and timely response from you, much appreciated (sorry I could not respond sooner). For starters, I have found a fair resource on the subject at history.com: POLITICAL CHANGES IN EASTERN EUROPE 1989-2001 --
    https://selfstudyhistory.com/2015/01/21/political-changes-in-eastern-europe-1989-2001/

    My own memories from that period are mostly about huge spikes in suicide rates in many of the identified countries, which I guess demonstrates my morbid interests.

    Getting back to trying to figure out the prospects for USA, we could say that we are looking at something that may happen (or not) in the rather distant future, since (based on my own personal observations) the economy is hardly "in shambles," although maybe society is falling apart, slowly if inexorably. But the thing is that so long as the economy continues to crank over, a society can be falling apart for an awfully long time before it is pronounced dead.

    Meanwhile, I have thought a lot about Hopkins' experiences, considering that he is located in Berlin, and I have been comparing his remarks with remarks of the great British historian David Irving about his (Irving's) incarceration in Austria for what are generally (in Europe anyway) called 'hate crimes'. Here's Hopkins generally describing what he sees trending:

    "[R]esentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen."
     
    Hopkins' complaints are about methods that are much softer than anything employed against Irving or revolutionary heroes of yore. Hopkins seems to be mainly worried about the effects of the corporatocracy's control over social and other media, although also over finance (the medium of money, the medium of exchange). Very 1984-ish. Like: "we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you." Ultimately, of course, it can get physical and horrifying, as it did in Charlottesville here in USA. Or, as in the case of Ai Wei-wei -- ultimately, Ai ended in jail or in some form of detention that has never been defined or even well described ... but then, in the context of a series of international incidents centered on Ai, he was released from jail and even allowed to travel freely, not only in China but anywhere his passport could take him. Ai describes his time in Chinese detention as "hellish." But he's out now, and more famous and arguably more influential than ever.

    How do we 'fight' this kind of tyranny, this soft tyranny exercised by gargantuan powers, although you can feel the iron fingers under the gloves at any time ?

    I have no answers, and I note that Hopkins himself calls our insurgency "doomed." Nonetheless, I am interested. Considering Eastern Europe in the aftermath to the Soviet era, it may be that just as Communism imploded, so also USA's ZOG is going to implode, so there may be precedents worth considering. (Lukashenko, in Belarus, changing very little since the collapse of Communism?)

    I continue to think that we should be very thankful to our forefathers that they bequeathed to us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I guess that's how I would translate Hopkins' challenge to Americans at this time: How can we best preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

    Thank you for excellent and timely response from you, much appreciated (sorry I could not respond sooner).

    Well, that’s something of a surprise. 9 times of 10 when I mention that I get almost hostile reply from an average American.

    My own memories from that period are mostly about huge spikes in suicide rates in many of the identified countries, which I guess demonstrates my morbid interests.

    That’s definitely one way to look at it. Probably similar to rising suicide rates in certain groups in US society.
    I’d suggest, though, on focusing on nationalist populist movements, especially on methods of challenging state authority. Plenty of material available on Internet for those interested in the subject.

    Getting back to trying to figure out the prospects for USA, we could say that we are looking at something that may happen (or not) in the rather distant future, since (based on my own personal observations) the economy is hardly “in shambles,” although maybe society is falling apart, slowly if inexorably.

    Agree.

    But the thing is that so long as the economy continues to crank over, a society can be falling apart for an awfully long time before it is pronounced dead.

    Agree. And, at the same time, we’ll see rising powers of the state: surveillance and militarized police.

    “[R]esentment of global capitalism had grown into a widespread neo-nationalist backlash against globalization, the loss of sovereignty, fiscal austerity, and the soulless, smiley-face, corporate culture being implemented throughout the West and beyond. That this backlash is reactionary in nature does not change the fact that it is an insurgency … just as Islamic fundamentalism is. Both insurgencies are doomed attempts to revert to despotic social systems (nationalist in one case, religious in the other) and so reverse the forward march of global capitalism. The global capitalist ruling classes are not about to let that happen.”

    Agree, up to a point.
    Wanting not letting to happen and actually not letting to happen are two different things.
    This is a huge topic, but, the power of nationalism and religion is enormous. On top of it, it’s irrational, hard, almost impossible to control.
    So, technocrats managing the current paradigm have no solution there regardless of mechanisms at their disposals. They don’t get it, hence, they can’t really counter it. In fact, they can create and inflame it.
    Like: “we will marginalize you, and demonize you, and demonetize you, and disappear you.”
    Doesn’t work that way.
    In those countries I mentioned above the Power did all that and much more. Didn’t work. Actually made things worse.
    Now, this:

    Ultimately, of course, it can get physical and horrifying, as it did in Charlottesville here in USA.

    THAT is the problem. At the moment, that is. The attitude.
    It was not physical and especially not horrifying. It was……….nothing.
    Compare that to ethnic warfare in former Yugoslavia and breakup states of Soviet Union.

    How do we ‘fight’ this kind of tyranny, this soft tyranny exercised by gargantuan powers, although you can feel the iron fingers under the gloves at any time?

    Well….simple I guess.
    For a starter a group of rich and powerful people who do feel the same recruit and fund a think tank which will produce a vision and a plan how to achieve that.
    Failing that a decent group of average people who feel the same crowdfund the same think tank.

    ….. I note that Hopkins himself calls our insurgency “doomed.”

    He’s wrong. Anything is possible. Maybe the globalization is doomed. It could create M.A.D. and then everything is doomed.

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  99. @Sin City Milla
    Once the barbarians are in the gates, all politics become identity politics. In the US the gates collapsed in 1965. In the UK in 1948. They've been falling like dominos thruout the West ever since. In another generation or so national borders in the West will look more illogical n artificial than do today's borders in the MidEast.

    Your prophesy regarding borders in the West will come true.

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  100. Just finished Zone 23, a novel written by C. J. Hopkins. I’d like to encourage him to write more novels. It was excellent. I am a fan of sci-fi and dystopian fiction, and Zone 23 was in the sweet spot of a believable dystopia. Please write more!

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