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The fact that somebody can study for a degree in “Gender Studies” is striking proof that Cultural Marxists are holding Western universities by the throat. Gender Studies is centred around postmodern “deconstruction” with a view to empowering females and assorted sexual deviants. But now, it’s Gender Studies itself that is being thoroughly deconstructed. The Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, has banned it from Hungarian state universities—at exactly the time when a leading Swedish psychologist has conducted a huge study empirically proving that Gender Studies is irrelevant nonsense.

Orban announced that his government would push through with a policy first proposed last year: to abolish Gender Studies programmes at Hungarian universities. There are two universities with Gender Studies Departments, both in Budapest – the George Soros-backed Central European University (CEU), and Eötvös Loránd University, founded in 1635. The latter takes only 10 students a year into the Gender Studies programme.

This will make Hungary the only country in the EU which doesn’t allow Queer Theory to be taught on the taxpayer’s dime. And Orban’s government is refreshingly honest about why Gender Studies is being sent to Siberia.

“The subject of the discipline goes against everything the government thinks about human beings,” Bence Retvari, the Minister for Human Resources told the Hungarian parliament last year. “Gender studies—similar to Marxism-Leninism—can be called an ideology rather than a science, and therefore it is doubtful that it attains the scientific level expected for a university degree course”. [Attack on academic freedom or stand against pseudoscience: Is Hungary right to ban gender studies?, RT, August 19, 2018,]

It’s not just members of Orban’s nationalist Fidesz Party who take this view. “This study . . . destroys value-oriented thinking that is still present in Central European countries” wrote Christian Democrat (and member of Orban’s coalition) Lőrinc Nacsa last year. “Our burning problem is the demographic issue, which will not be solved by studying sexual minorities and deepening feminist philosophy”.

The government also stated that the subject imparts no useful knowledge for Hungary, so it effectively churns out unemployable graduates or graduates who will have to go abroad, emigration being a serious problem for ex-Soviet Bloc nations, at the taxpayer’s expense. [Orban govt abolishes gender studies in Hungary, Hungary Journal, August 10, 2018]

Even in the US, Women’s Studies graduates aren’t really employable—see I Have a Degree in Women’s Studies, So Why Can’t I Pay the Rent? by Christine Stolba, The Women’s Quarterly, Fall 1999.

Though some Hungarian Leftists have criticised the government’s decision because it involved shutting down a course “dealing with gender inequalities,” the policy has garnered the support of the country’s leading social scientists—particularly notable because social scientists in the Anglosphere are invariably Left-wing. Hungary’s social scientists, however, are nationalists.

“Gender-oriented liberals have already caused irreparable harm in the souls of generations growing up in the past decades. We need to fight them without compromise and achieve a complete victory, otherwise they will end up destroying us,” wrote sociologist (!!!) Balint Botond in the daily newspaper Magayar [Hungary to Stop Financing Gender Courses: PM Aid, Reuters, August 14, 2018].

In contrast, Orsolya Lehotai, who researches political science at Central European University told the Swedish Secretariat for Gender Research last year that “Gender Studies” is associated, by the government, with Communism, but that the Communist era was “liberating” for women. The government, she claimed, see Gender Studies as feminizing men, when in the government’s view men are needed to fight Islamic refugees. And they see the subject as masculinising women so that they don’t want children, undermining Hungary as a bastion against Multiculturalism, and undermining family life. [Ambivalent situation for gender studies in Hungary, Swedish Secretariat for Gender Research, December 19, 2017, /].

However, it is in Sweden – with its rampant gender quotas, even for positions in the government [Sweden is implementing gender equality level 2.0, The Local, June 4, 2018] – that some of the most damning academic research on Gender Studies has recently emerged.

Guy Madison, a mild-mannered Professor of Psychology at Umeå University in northern Sweden [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm22a9AKylU ], and his team have systematically demonstrated what garbage Gender Studies is.

They analysed “2805 statements from 36 peer-reviewed journal articles, sampled from the Swedish Gender Studies List,” comparing those by “Gender Studies” scholars and those by scientists who studied sex differences, coding the statements for bias and value judgements. They duly proved that statements by “Gender Studies” researchers were objectively higher in bias and value-judgements [“Objectivity and realms of explanation in academic journal articles concerning sex/gender, By Guy Madison & Therese Söderlund, Scientometrics, August 2017] .

The same team analyzed peer-reviewed articles, line by line, to see how well supported empirical assertions were by the surrounding text and whether the study applied a “gender studies” perspective. They found that a study having this perspective was positively associated with low levels of empirical support for its statements [Comparisons of content and scientific quality indicators across peer-reviewed journal articles with more or less gender perspective, By Guy Madison & Therese Söderlund, Scientometrics, April 2018].

And to make matters even worse, they proved that when comparing “literatures that consider socially constructed gender” and those that accept “biological sex” then “the former is less cited and published in journals with lower Impact Factor than the latter”. [Characteristics of gender studies publications, By Guy Madison & Therese Söderlund, Scientometrics, August 2015].

In other words, academics don’t really read Gender Studies articles and, if they do, they certainly don’t consider them worth citing—citation being the accepted measure that something is an important contribution to knowledge.

Aghast at Madison’s findings, Swedish Gender Studies researchers could only respond with a long list of fallacious criticisms, such as the Gender Studies should only be studied by people who have Gender Studies qualifications—rather proving his central point that the field is utterly anti-scientific [Can gender studies be studied? Reply to comments on Söderlund and Madison, By Guy Madison & Therese Söderlund, Scientometrics, May 2016].

Of course, almost all subjects with “Studies” on the end are politicized nonsense. Even “Religious Studies” assumes that the causes of religious differences are entirely environmental because all religions are a “response” to the same thing: the numinous; a sense of the profound awe at the heart of life. In other words, Religious Studies is in fact a form of extreme-liberal Christian theology [The Ideology of Religious Studies,By Timothy Fitzgerald, Oxford University Press, 2000]

But the difference is that Gender Studies openly aims to destroy Western society, preventing it from defending itself against the Enemy at the Gate by sowing confusion and cultural disunity.

The Hungarian government understands this. Hopefully it won’t be too long before other governments follow suit and stop funding this ideological nonsense.

No better example of this nonsense can be seen in the response to Orban’s decision by Prof Emma Rees, [Email her] Director of the Institute of Gender Studies at the University of Chester in England:

Universities should be home to open-mindedness; to working through intellectual difficulties; to challenging convention; and should lay the global socio-cultural foundations necessary for a brighter, because more equitable, future.

[Institute of Gender Studies, University of Chester Facebook Page, August 17, 2018]

Rees cannot see that “open-mindedness” and “working through intellectual difficulties” cannot go hand-in-hand with the dogma that a “brighter future” is inherently “more equitable.”

And this isn’t some callow undergraduate, his/her/non-binary critical faculties not yet fully developed, it’s the director of the whole department.

We have a long way to go.

Lance Welton [Email him] is the pen name of a freelance journalist living in New York.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Jason Liu says:

    Nice to see a country with right-wing sociologists.

    But the mere concept of “gender studies” should never have been allowed to exist in the first place. Sometime in the past, somebody fucked up by approving the course, giving it the spark it needed to spread like a meme. Now it’s super hard to put it back in the bottle, so it’s going to take widespread persecution instead. Poor gatekeeping fucks the right once again.

    Also, Orban openly called for a end to liberal democracy a while back. Using those exact words. He’s a good guy.

    https://www.dw.com/en/viktor-orban-era-of-liberal-democracy-is-over/a-43732540

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  2. This is a very narrow topic for Americans. Allow me to expand this criticism to a broader discussion of wasteful state funded college degrees, from my blog:

    Aug 26, 2018 – Free College?

    While I often applaud Jimmy Dore, he also promotes nutty ideas, like free college. That sounds nice, but means the bottom half of Americans who can’t enroll due to low test scores would work and pay taxes, while the top half enjoys a free four-year ride in college to do whatever they please! If college were free, millions more aimless, upper middle class Americans would waste four years pursing hobbies to acquire dubious skills that our nation has far in excess, like degrees in: drama, paleontology, women’s studies, anthropology, art history, ethnic studies, astronomy, library science, modern dance, and PE. Free college would also bolster our increasingly corrupt and costly university system that employs nearly a million clerks earning six-figures.

    The federal government needs to guide higher education with incentives. It should fund education in select areas where our nation lags, like machine tool operators, windmill and solar repair, and perpetually neglected fields like nursing, computer repair, fiber-optic installers, high-power electrical maintainers, and special education. So my “free college” idea is not a four-year fun ride to pursue dreams that will not benefit society, but 2-4 year programs to produce skilled workers needed to fill gaps in our economy. 

    The idea that everyone should attend college is nutty as well. Half of American teens struggle to graduate from high school and lack the motivation and basic intelligence to do more than semi-skilled labor. If given a chance with free college, most will just party and play video games for a few years at government expense, until expelled. I think Jimmy Dore would agree if he read these thoughts.

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  3. Anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    There are plenty of jobs for gender studies graduates in the U.S. These people are hired in human relations, diversity and inclusion departments, and university admissions departments, for example. Also, gender studies as a minor is very common.

    The problem is not that they can’t get a job, but rather that they do get jobs that are by their nature gatekeeper jobs, and they can keep those not sympathetic to gender studies out of school and employment.

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  4. A lot of ignorance about academia and polemical criticism on here. To be expected.

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  5. BenKenobi says:

    A short march through the institutions would be a trifle.

    “Je suis Charlie”?

    Indeed.

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  6. ‘Universities should be home to open-mindedness; to working through intellectual difficulties; to challenging convention; and should lay the global socio-cultural foundations necessary for a brighter, because more equitable, future.’

    Evidently, the professor regards promoting equality as ‘challenging convention.’

    If she was living in the sixteenth century, that might be a reasonable proposition.

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  7. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu

    Part of the problem is universities became required to hire minorities and homosexuals. Since they often weren’t qualified in other fields, they could stash them all in some ‘studies’ program, and the diversity numbers would look OK. After a while, these programs were springing up everywhere and you had, essentially, a network of full-time hard-left activists in the heart of academia. They’ve become a very serious problem, but they are deeply entrenched now and it will be very difficult to uproot them.

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  8. Cortes says:

    “Lance, eh?” she thought, sharpening the knives.

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  9. El Dato says:

    The idea that everyone should attend college is nutty as well. Half of American teens struggle to graduate from high school and lack the motivation and basic intelligence to do more than semi-skilled labor. If given a chance with free college, most will just party and play video games for a few years at government expense, until expelled. I think Jimmy Dore would agree if he read these thoughts.

    Not to mention that you wouldn’t have the infrastructure nor the number of teachers required.

    Even if the college implemented a “mandatory 50% die-off during the first two years” (an excellent policy IMHO), first year would be overcrowded hell. But one COULD set up a “preparatory year” (the propaedeutic year) to see who’s got got the nous.

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  10. Actually left liberals are pretty good at finding jobs with useless degrees. The same mental traits that make them hyper-sensitive to minor inequalities in social status also make them very good at social networking.

    In contrast, social conservatives tend to be very poor at social networking, hence their need for real work skills to compensate for their social weaknesses.

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  11. Deschutes says:

    What a tempest in a teapot. So the author is evidently very upset that people get Gender Studies degress? That’s it? That Welton would get so bent out of shape over someone studying gender, feminism, strikes me as quite odd and uncomfortably wanting. Citing right wing asshole Orban in Hungary as an example to follow? Strike two! Nobody in Europe takes Orban seriously, he’s an unhinged wing winger. Maybe he has some good buddies in Georgia and west Ukraine :-D

    And that stupid little comic about not being able to find a job with a Gender Studies degree. That really makes the author look like a loser. I remember in uni it was always the stupidest people who would attack Art majors, history majors, English Lit majors etc. “You’ll never get a job with that shit degree blah blah”. Good god, what insufferably narrow mindedness. So for Lancy boy, one must only study what capitalist market forces indicate! Engineering, computer science, accounting, and medicine! Actually this is why America is such a shitty country now: no art majors, no music majors, no creative writing majors= shit hollywood films, no music worth listening to, no new creative script writing, and endless fucking sequels since nobody has a wit of creativity in them to come up with anything original. You see, its been driven out by the capitalist utilitarians and corporate America! And since the cost of a college degree is approaching $50-$100,000 you better play it safe and get a corporate America approved degree. I call bullshit on that!

    My final observation: if someone wants to study Gender Studies, let them. It’s very useful and has its place. That bigots and misogynistic conservative reactionaries like this author or the little Hungarian sausage diktator Orban can’t handle people studying this, fuck ‘em. I can only imagine the hate and vitriol this author or Orban would have for someone like Chelsea Manning, or millions of other transgendered people the world over. Imagine how difficult it is for these people to live in society, especially with so many hateful and ignorant reactionary conservatives everywhere. We as a society need to deal with the growing numbers of children coming out as trans, and Gender Studies helps do this, and helps craft public policy that helps everyone get along. You can’t put transexuality back into the closet any more than you can deny that there are gays, lesbians, feminists, and an ongoing struggle and redefinition of sexual relations.

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  12. Deschutes says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    What nonsense. Fact: in California up until 1970, there was no tuition to attend state universities. Go and look it up. Anybody with a good GPA could enroll at UCLA, UC Berkeley, UC Davis, etc. It was paid for through income taxes, property taxes etc just like high school is funded across the country. It was Reagan who ended that most excellent program, arguing ‘everybody should pay for their own college’ or some similar asshole conservative talking point. And look at what has come to pass: the capitalist swine in USA have commodified higher education, making getting a degree in USA the most expensive in the world. What an unmitigated disaster: so now universities must run begging to corporations for donations and charge sky high tuition. Only an asshole like Betsy DeVoss and her ilk would be proud of such a disastrous outcome from cutting federal and state funding of university.

    Americans always amuse me with their myopic, limited perspective on college education: they never look to other countries to see how they fund university. “What!? Free university education!? Impossible! That’s….erm….communism and communism is BAD goo-goo ga-ga” Why is it that Germany, Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, etc etc have no problems providing free university education to its citizens? It can be done, and has been done for ages. Jimmy Dore is spot on as usual.

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  13. Anonymous[997] • Disclaimer says:

    Women are baby-making machines. They’re only good at it for a few short years. The anti-natalist “college/corporate” complex tries to run their biological clock out on white women.

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  14. Realist says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    If college were free, millions more aimless, upper middle class Americans would waste four years pursing hobbies to acquire dubious skills that our nation has far in excess, like degrees in: drama, paleontology, women’s studies, anthropology, art history, ethnic studies, astronomy, library science, modern dance, and PE.

    Astronomy???? Very few possess the intellectual ability to obtain a degree in astronomy.

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  15. Saxon says:
    @Jason Liu

    Gender studies is just the biggest pile of pseudo-intellectual empty credential cargo culting bullshit used to push political agendas. Virtually of these suffix -studies are entirely bullshit. 100% garbage. The underpinnings of things like “Critical Race Theory” can be summed up in two words: Fuck Whitey. There’s absolutely nothing to it. Even the name itself as a “theory” grants it too much credence. It’s not a theory, it’s just entirely a statement that if you disagree with they say then it’s just because white privilege, white male privilege or some such nonsense, therefore you’re wrong because X bad thing whitey or was alleged to have done in the past.

    What makes this even worse is because so many people think it’s legit due to the rubber stamped credentialism, they actually think this is education. Which is why the “learned” sociology hack calls people uneducated when they disagree with this nonsense and can offer valid arguments against it.

    You have lots of people who don’t belong in college and university who take nonsense like this, and worse still things like this are used as a sort of ideological filter for a lot of hiring on jobs that in reality have no actual educational requirements. If you’re in the diversitykult, you can get hired for some job that virtually anyone with a proper elementary school education qualifies for; otherwise you don’t and especially not if you’re part of the white male outgroup– for you it’s minimum wage work at a retail shop or a pizzeria or some such and having your life ruined by getting fired and made unemployable even at these jobs if you dare make any political noise about your predicament.

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  16. As the director of an institute of gender studies Prof. Emma Rees cannot be expected to cut off the branch she is comfortably perched on. Her statement calls for “open-mindedness” and the presumably laudable willingness to “challenge convention.” If the scientific method stubbornly demanding empirical evidence is but a retrograde convention of the narrow minded, why not be truly open minded and have the universities also fund Tarot Divination and Flat Earth studies? Is it because such believers cannot be identified as disenfranchised minorities that can be mobilized to fight for “for a brighter, because more equitable, future”?

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  17. dcite says:

    I have found these “studies” tiresome, goofy, and divisive, for a long time now… but “library science” in that list of the un-needed “studies?” The library world is certainly changing. However, since the 1980s, library courses are heavily computer oriented and those with the inclination, became programmers of some sort and their professional can get quite “technical” so to speak. The earliest forms of confederated search engines were developed in libraries in the 1970s, years before the internet became public. A good library/librarian benefits staff in organizations, and in academia. The better students and staff are the ones who tend to avail themselves of the benefits, although I sat in a meeting where one IT guy bragged of working for Apple and not entering a library since high school. He looked like Eric Schmidt’s brother, and was in his 40s. He was one of the cheerleaders for decimation of informative paper products.
    In any case, there has been a wholesale assault on libraries, mostly by “liberals,” turning the public ones into recreational facilities and unofficial day care centers, when there are people who go there for peace, quiet, and reading. The agency libraries meanwhile, are being deliberately decimated of print material. Some of this is necessary, but irreplaceable print books and other documents, are being thrown out by the bin-load to the shock and dismay of economists and scientists who catch the libraries in the act. And don’t drink the cool-aid that all this information is “on-line.” It’s not. Copyright, expense, lack of ability to access, not everyone wants a long book on-line. Furthermore, don’t overlook the fact that digital works can be messed with. What is writ on paper, is writ. What is writ by the digital is easily messed with, and has been according to some authors.
    An article by a Canadian government worker in 2012 noted the relentless bibliocide in government libraries, and how it seemed to be promoted by the same “liberals” who are working so hard to liberalize everything while supposedly making information available to all. Only, it appears, government approved information.

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  18. mp says:
    @Deschutes

    You see, its been driven out by the capitalist utilitarians… Gender Studies [is] very useful

    Umm, er…is there a disconnect in this logic? Must be the logic of a gender studies major. Arguing against utility, and for it, at the same time. Very Zen. LOL

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  19. Respect says:
    @Deschutes

    Reagan , Thatcher and Woytila ( John Paul II ) , were a disgraceful troika for heavens and earth .

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  20. Feminism, Gender studies ,and all other assorted cr,,, should be applied in countries that are overpopulated like Israel. Africa, and some Asian countries and diaspora. Not in Europe that has a low birthrate.

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  21. dcite says:
    @Deschutes

    Germany, Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, etc etc have no problems providing free university education to its citizens?

    Because these countries have been filled mostly with their own people. They understand the abilities and behavior of those people from long years of history, and know who will be using the system and for what ends. Some also use a filtering system around the age of 12 and put kids on a certain school track, college bound or not. You wouldn’t want that, would you? And they were fairly prosperous. The United States is full of all kinds of people who streamed in here from god knows where, many just to game the system. And damned if my tax money is going to pay for their college education when I, and many like me, ordinary middle class people, had to work our way through school. Sometimes I think most college is scam. I just don’t want to be double scammed, paying for other peoples’ college education.

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  22. In contrast, Orsolya Lehotai, who researches political science at Central European University told the Swedish Secretariat for Gender Research last year that “Gender Studies” is associated, by the government, with Communism, but that the Communist era was “liberating” for women. The government, she claimed, see Gender Studies as feminizing men, when in the government’s view men are needed to fight Islamic refugees. And they see the subject as masculinising women so that they don’t want children, undermining Hungary as a bastion against Multiculturalism, and undermining family life. [my bold]

    This lady is not very good at hiding the agenda. I think Mr. Soros may have to call her into his office for a little chat. See, everything she said there, besides being complete stupidity, of course, is an argument for multiculuralism above all. She is unvealing the goal that multiculturalism is the goal, period.

    The university in boldface is the one that Mr. Weldon mentioned is backed by George Soros, a traitor to the Hungarian people. Actually, Soros is a traiter to the whole human race – the caption under his picture in his old Budapest Northeast High yearbook was very prescient: “Most likely to become the AntiChrist“.

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  23. @Deschutes

    Why is it that Germany, Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, etc etc have no problems providing free university education to its citizens?

    A.) It isn’t usually completely free, though it is normally an order of magnitude cheaper than in the US because of government subsidies.

    B.) These free/cheap public universities are not open to all applicants, however. They can only take a limited number of those who apply, so they ration their seats on the basis of demonstrated ability–grades, exit exam scores, etc. Those who don’t make the cut have to go to a private university and pay the full cost.

    As far as I know, there is no country on earth that offers free university education to all who want it. How would that even be workable?

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  24. @Jason Liu

    I agree with the sentiment of your comment, Jason, but I’d like to argue against this part:

    Sometime in the past, somebody fucked up by approving the course, giving it the spark it needed to spread like a meme.

    It ain’t just a “meme”, Jason, it’s business. There’s a bunch of money in it, for bullshit courses, bullshit research, bullshit fellowships, bullshit conferences, etc. No matter what some university administrator thinks about these “Studies” majors, and even if he would stick his neck out (not bloody likely), he’d just be cutting the schools funds. None of them want to do that. Strickly bidness, you understand – BUT, it’s the kind of business that can only flourish with the moral hazards created in a government-controlled market, not a free one (more on that to another commenter shortly).

    It’s not a lack of “gatekeepers”. Who would these gatekeepers be? Universities want to keep expanding, and they are one hell of a bubble right now, due to Feral-Gov-backed school loans. Peak Stupidity has been all over this subject with some of it here: Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3, with a short intro here.

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  25. “such as the Gender Studies should only be studied by people who have Gender Studies qualifications—”

    White men should only be studied by white men. Things invented by white men should only be used by white men.

    Hey! I like this strain of logic!

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  26. Moi says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    College in France is free.

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  27. @Carlton Meyer

    You lost me, Carlton, at:

    The federal government needs to guide higher education with incentives.

    The federal government needs to do ONE THING with regard to higher education: JACK SQUAT. It did not have a whole lot to do with education either, until the Dept. of Education was created in the lat 1970′s as President Carter’s payback to the Ed unions that did a lot to help him win the 1976 election. Our higher education, along with lower, was doing pretty damn well before the Feral Gov. got involved.

    I realize “muh Constitution” is just too damn libertarian and freedom-oriented for lots of unz commenters, but this is only one sentence:

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    I’ll take the advice of James Madison over Jimmy Carter (bless his heart) any day of the week.

    Oh, sorry, I forget this liberty stuff scares the crap out of people. Shelter in place, bitchez!

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  28. Moi says:

    Let’s see now–we have two genders (male/female) but multiple sexual types (LGBTQI), and the latter is about making the abnormal normal.

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  29. @dcite

    Thanks for the state-of-the-libraries information, DCite. I never had a problem with Library Science as a major, or a place to meet lonely spinsters for that matter.

    I agree with you that the public libraries have become homeless shelters and daycare centers in a lot of cities now. Lots of people vote for library bonds, and the libraries hardly know what to do with all the money. I’ve seen a small branch get renovated (shut down for > 1 year) just due to “hell, we’ve got the money – better spend it on something.”. It was just fine before, and there’s no more space than there was beforehand.

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  30. @Anonymous

    AGREED!

    though I’ll add “baby-raising”. In the long-term, it’s the most important job in the world. Feminism has made women and men alike ashamed to say what you just wrote. Who’s the art by, #997?

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  31. After all my commenter-to-commenter chit-chat and arguments, I’d like to add that I enjoy reading your articles, Mr. Weldon. Thanks for keeping us up on one of the few remaining sane nations of the West. I guess I may have to learn to love ghoulash and Budweiser (at least the higher percentage stuff) the way things are going.

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  32. I haven’t the slightest idea what Gender Studies involve and such a course certainly didn’t exist during my time in university but just to clarify terminology, and since the article seems to deal almost entirely with European uinversities, we don’t use the expression “cultural Marxism” in Europe and I don’t really understand what Americans mean by it.

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  33. prusmc says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer

    Carlton Myer:
    As long as they or someone else (tax payer or bank loan) is paying the tuition no student will be expelled from college. With the exception of a few who are deemed to have demonstrated politically incorrect actions or thoughts.

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  34. Respect says:

    Gender ideology shows the mental and moral decadence of the West , the lost of common sense .

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  35. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deschutes

    We as a society need to deal with the growing numbers of children coming out as trans, say you?

    Children coming out as trans are sex abuse victims.

    You’re saying that society needs to accept open child abuse.

    Like pizza much?

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  36. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Wolf Willrich.

    Source:

    Women in the Nazi state

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/womenrev_print.shtml

    I’m glad you enjoyed. :)

    More for you. I take being called a Nazi in the current year as a compliment.

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  37. Saxon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    With the people they’re bringing in from the third world, libraries aren’t even serving their actual purpose anymore. These people are largely illiterate and even when not, don’t have much interest in reading anything. I’m pretty sure more books are translated into Greek each year than Arabic and if you think about the disparity between the number of speakers of the two languages, it’s really jarring.

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  38. bj says:

    Why Women DESTROY NATIONS * / CIVILIZATIONS – and other UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS

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  39. @Achmed E. Newman

    I would suggest (if I may) to try to save some money and than to try Pilsner beer.
    (If you already learn to love ghoulash.)

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  40. If so-called gender studies were actually about studying the genders (male and female) in the spirit of robust intellectual inquiry and got into things like the influence on gender of evolution and society, how gender roles adapt to changes in human civilization etc. that would be fine. But “gender studies” as a reeducation program run by feminists with an agenda to sow discontent by promoting deviant sexuality and a warped and unrealistic idea of male/female relations with a fanatical emphasis on portraying women as helpless victims of evil misogynist men who are held responsible for every problem and inconvenience a human female might face in her life, has no place in a university.

    The ironic thing is that feminists who push this stuff are making women into angry and helpless creatures who are never responsible when an event or situation does not turn out as they would have liked. Didn’t get that job or fail the final exam? Never mind working on your interview skills or studying the material conscientiously, it’s the patriarchy trying to bring you down. File a human rights complaint and organize a protest to get evil man fired.

    Indoctrinating impressionable young women to believe that femininity is “oppressive” and they need to internalize masculine values instead, accepting every ( non-hetero) sexually deviant freak under the sun, advocating for mentally ill sad sacks and their 70 imaginary “genders” and all the rest of it are not contributing to a healthy and stable society, of that there is no doubt.

    But while “gender” studies is misguided and an insult to the spirit of rational academic inquiry, it is not quite influential enough to bring down western civilization. That is paranoid thinking. And, let us be honest, there are plenty of dinosaurs on the right who react with horror to any and every change or development that upsets the status quo. Societies are always in flux to one degree or another and, as the cliche goes, change is the only constant. I happen to think that western civilization is seriously, quite possibly mortally, wounded but the reasons for that are much greater and diverse, if you will, than bogus “gender” studies courses at liberal arts colleges.

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  41. @Achmed E. Newman

    well said Achmed, dcite, and many others.
    Why aren’t the feminists and academic “equality” types running out to join the military or work on farms and mines and other places where one gets real sweaty and dirty? Why aren’t they taking the night shift jobs or jobs where you wind up being on duty for 24 or more sraight hours?
    How come Chelsea Clinton didn’t join the Army and serve as an example?

    A super leftist commenter calls people names- nice to be able to hide behind a computer.
    In my experience the most bigoted people were the bull dikes and male homosexuals.

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  42. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Women are baby-making machines. They’re only good at it for a few short years. The anti-natalist “college/corporate” complex tries to run their biological clock out on white women.”

    Actually, men and women are baby-making machines. There is a symbiotic relationship here. And there is observably no such thing as a “college/corporate complex” that is circumventing, at best, or destroying, at worst, a female’s “biological clock”.

    It really upsets you that men and women are making their own decisions about race and culture, along with choosing who to marry and when to marry. I suggest you get therapy for your anger issues.

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  43. drunkard says:

    a leading Swedish psychologist has conducted a huge study empirically proving that Gender Studies is irrelevant nonsense.

    I could have told you so 30 years ago, with no study, and for free.

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  44. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    As far as I know, there is no country on earth that offers free university education to all who want it. How would that even be workable?

    We had that in California in the 1960s. This is how it worked.

    There were three tiers of schools. Those with good grades or high test scores were admitted to the University of California. Those with average grades were admitted to the various California State Colleges. Anyone who graduated from high school or reached adulthood could attend local two-year “junior colleges”. Tuition was nearly zero for residents of the state. Out-of-state or foreign students had to pay substantial tuition. Compared to private universities all of these were no-frills institutions, and the dropout rate was high. From memory fewer than fifty percent of the University of California freshman survived their first two years there.

    The two-year schools were financed through property taxes in districts just like the high schools. The four-year schools were financed by the state with income taxes on the theory that the higher income taxes of the graduates would pay back the state over time.

    The system worked very well, but then the Supreme Court decided that state residency requirements discriminated against residents of other states. So the schools became flooded with freeloaders from other parts of the US.

    Another nail in the coffin for California public colleges was the militarization during the Vietnam War. Many of us were drafted or otherwise coerced into joining the military where we simply had no rights. On the first day they gave us an IQ test, and I soon found myself in a company of all white privates supposedly training to become officers. Oddly we were not trained to do anything in particular during this six week course. It soon became apparent they they were putting drugs in our food.

    What actually happened was that a group of generals around general/president Eisenhower became incensed that Vietnamese were willing to die in suicide attacks while American soldiers were not. They also hated smart ass college boys. So they took the top twenty-five percent of Army inductees and trained us with MK-ULTRA methods to go behind enemy lines and call artillery fire on ourselves.

    As far as I know there were two survivors of the program. One went out on his mission, hid out in a Vietcong bunker and survived. The other one was me. I had food allergies, a hernia, and a communist grandmother who wanted to know all about what I was doing in the Army. So I decided to drop out of the program at the last minute.

    I received a medical discharge after seven months in the Army. Generous GI educational benefits were still available in those days, and I eventually went back to the University of California where I went on to graduate summa cum laude. UC was a favorite school for WWII and Korean vets. The university had built itself up in the expectation of a surge of post-war vets, but in the seven years I went to school there I never met one single vet. Not one.

    I read here about dysgenics and various theories about why our intelligence is dropping, as it obviously is. I am sure there are other factors, but one that is overlooked is that the deep state took the best and the brightest of my generation and shot them in the back.

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  45. Gneisenau says:
    @Michael Kenny

    I would suggest that what most north americans mean by “cultural marxism” is the whole complex of academic schools of thought, postmodernism, gender studies, critical theory and intersectionality, which have in common the extension of the concept of oppression of the proletariat by the owners of the means of production in classical marxism to the relations between all groups, whites and non-whites, men and women, heterosexuals and homosexuals and the transgendered) etc.

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  46. Corvinus says:
    @bj

    The Black Pigeon is always a much needed laugh. He is deceptively funny. For example, civilizations have been built and maintained by men and women. It’s just that the roles have changed as we progress as a human race.

    Today’s American whites in general are concerned decidedly about American society, not Western Civilization. A return to a patriarchal society, one by which rule by kings and nobles, with an expendable peasant class, is not even on the radar by our citizens, nor should it be.

    Again, the Black Pigeon is hilarious!

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  47. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    Sadly, only the mother, the infant, and her daughter lived, as the father and two sons were savagely put through Hitler’s meat grinder.

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    @bj

    Very good , thank you

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  49. prusmc says: • Website
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    Achmed
    Part 3 is posted 17 Feb 2017. It promises a conclusion. Is this available or still a work in progress?

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  50. beau says:

    ‘gender studies’: cul-de-sac for the incompetent, ignorant/stupid, lazy, loud mouth confused self haters projecting their hate onto others and who toe the politically correct, utterly absurd, anti human line they want to foist on the rest of us. to them, the only acceptable route to take is to accept the unacceptable and embrace their lunacy, even as they extol ‘tolerance’ and ‘respecting diverse opinions’.

    a ‘crowning achievement’ of higher education in ‘gender studies’: many amerikans cannot even fathom which bathroom to use.

    living in an empire is a trip into hubris and living in the end times of an empire is marked by all manner of insanity, official and personal, affecting all ‘officials’ and many individuals. ‘gender studies’ is but one aspect of the demonstration of the absurdity evident when the death of empire is approaching.

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  51. Che Guava says:

    Bullshit degrees. My own not at all.

    We had a requirement for ‘general studies’, but I was early to find that real studies could be substituted for it, so I did first-year psych., modern history of Japan and China (distinctions in both), eventually found two that were really interesting from actual ‘general studies’ lecturers, ‘Human Differences’, our lecturer was really great, introduced himself at the first lecture as ‘a right-wing anarchist’.

    Was checking last year, expected him to have been kicked out, but now an Emeritus Prof. very surprising.

    I forget the title, but the Dutch lecturer was really interesting and a friend at the time, but the title was something about pop culture, and enjoyable, he offered everyone a high distinction if we could have a Mills and Boone style novel published.

    Too much other coursework at the time, wish I could have, no time, so only a distinction.

    The final one I took, the title was ‘Sociology of Mass-Culture.’ This one was a true creep, close friend of a famous paedophile, and clearly casting the tutorials to the more stupid women in the class, much about Tarot and similar crap.

    Already (with another valuable class outside “general studies’, not worth mentioning, but another distinction), I became sick of his bs, so stopped attending. However, he had the hots for a sharemate of the time, so she invited me to a party at his house, of course partly for her own protection, so much nice party food and wine.

    … long trip back to the shared house together.

    The worst ‘academic’ of that time, in general studies and sociology (much the same thing, unless avoiding most, as I had), was one who all of us joked about, a tranny who looked like a rugby player, and that was the usual substance of the jokes.

    Of course, never signed up to ‘her’ courses, but seen outdoors at times. Guess that was the dawn of the ‘gender studies’ age.

    OMG, this is much too long, I blame recent compulsive reading of Fenimore Cooper’s maritime stories for the prolixity.

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  52. @prusmc

    Ahaa! Thank you, US Marine, for pointing out my omission (not back then, but this morning). Here is Part 4 (yeah, it’s got some OT-BS to wade through about “the perfect storm” meme, sorry). Related and better written is the The great University textbook scam.

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  53. DFH says:

    Actually, men and women are baby-making machines.

    How long are men pregnant for?

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  54. Lasch already explained that gender studies were invented to make it possible for anyone to get a college degree
    Christopher Lasch, ‘The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations’, 1979, 1980, London
    Who’se interested in this nonsense:
    Verene A. Shepherd, ‘I want to Disturb my Neighbour, Lectures on Slavery, Emancipation and Postcolonial Jamaica’, Kingston 2007

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  55. @Deschutes

    ‘…Anybody with a good GPA could enroll at UCLA, UC Berkeley, UC Davis, etc.

    Tuition was still extremely modest when I entered UC Berkeley in 1976. Two hundred and something a quarter, if I recall aright. Not free, but…

    Add that back in the day, textbooks didn’t change annually, and I discovered that the books were usually on the shelves in the library and I could check them out, and we were home free.

    Did I mention that I found a room about six blocks from campus for $80 a month? College just wasn’t that expensive.

    To relate all that to today dollars, the minimum wage was $3.75 an hour or something back then, so we could about triple the above total.

    Figure in 1976 dollars, my housing, tuition, and what books I actually had to buy came to $350-400 a quarter.

    In today dollars, that would be $1050 to $1200 a quarter. So?

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  56. Che Guava says:
    @Lost american

    In my experience on this site, longer than Achmed’s or yours. I cannot see why you are calling Achmed a super-leftist. Have not seen such.

    As mine, his uname is a joke, and not a bad one, it is connected with Mad magazine of old, if you are not getting it.

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  57. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I appreciate the suggestion, Miss Rozumova. I was thinking Bud due to its Czech origins. However, I’ll drink any pisswater if I can have my country back. I am still partial to Miller High-Life, the first beer I got drunk off of. I couldn’t smell beer for a month later as sick as I got that night.

    Plus the Doc said I can’t drink any more.*

    * any more than I do now, he meant… I think?

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  58. @Deschutes

    ‘…We as a society need to deal with the growing numbers of children coming out as trans, and Gender Studies helps do this…’

    This is surreal. Children, almost by definition, don’t have a sexual identity. They’re quite sure they’re boys or girls, but that’s a different matter. Remember? You were there.

    They’re also spectacularly intolerant. ‘Coming out as trans’ — or anything else deviant — is all but writing a suicide note in the eight year old set.

    That’s the way it is. That’s just the way us humans be. Obviously, for a child to ‘come out as trans’ is (a) probably B.S. of some kind, (b) an extremely bad idea, and (c) needs to be addressed, but certainly not by encouraging it or enabling it. That’s going to be — and always will be — nothing but a ticket to misery city. At a minimum, it has to be ‘okay, you really feel like you’re a girl, Johnny — but maybe it would be best if you kept that a secret, honey. The other children will be very, very mean to you if you tell them about this.’

    That’s just the way it is. You’re not going to remake the whole human condition because you’ve decided it displeases you. You might as well decide you can fly because it would make your commute so much shorter. Just don’t actually try it.

    If ‘growing numbers’ of children’ are coming out as trans, we need to figure out what’s wrong with our society in the first place, and I submit that might include the whole mentality behind ‘gender studies.’

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  59. @Squarebeard

    Brilliant! Simply Brilliant!

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  60. @drunkard

    You are kind of man I do like.

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  61. @Corvinus

    Actually, men and women are baby-making machines.

    Maybe on Jerry Springer they are, but not in real life. It’s not the clock that’s being destroyed. It’s that the time can run out quickly; that’s what Mr. 997 was saying. (He said “run”, not “ruin”.)

    It really upsets you that men and women are making their own decisions about race and culture, along with choosing who to marry and when to marry. I suggest you get therapy for your anger issues.

    It’s not the people who are trying to save a decent culture that are the angriest. It’s some of these women (and men) who will regret that they lived their lives against the fulfilling role prescribed by Mother Nature that will need Graduate-Level Anger Management classes. As Lloyd Braun likes to say: Serenity now, insanity later!

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  62. @beau

    ‘…living in an empire is a trip into hubris and living in the end times of an empire is marked by all manner of insanity, official and personal, affecting all ‘officials’ and many individuals. ‘gender studies’ is but one aspect of the demonstration of the absurdity evident when the death of empire is approaching.’

    I get that feeling myself — but then, I’m sixty, so maybe I’m just projecting.

    At the same time, there was a quality called ‘common sense’ that seems to have vanished at some point in the seventies.

    Too, going back to the sixties, there used to be an assumption that things were going to get better, that problems would be solved. Naturally, the arguments about what that solution should be were ferocious, but underneath it all an assumption that things would get better, that we would come up with a working layout for the kitchen, so to speak.

    Not any more. Does anyone have any confidence at all that things are going to get better? Again, this may have more to do with me being sixty rather than six, but it still does seem like the end times be upon us — or more like a long, dreary decline, lasting far past the end of my own life…

    Just look at our presidents. I hasten to add that Trump was the best alternative at each turn in 2016, but every president seems to make his predecessor look good. That’s been the case since Bush the Elder.

    If so, the mind reels at what sort of creature we’re going to elect in 2024.

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  63. Gender Studies are confined to Anglosphere (especially North America) & a few Scandinavian countries (marginally). No such thing anywhere else in the world.

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  64. @El Dato

    “Not to mention you wouldn’t have the infrastructure nor the number of teachers required.”

    But isn’t that the idea behind “free college?” Build the ed biz to give all those otherwise unemployable graduates jobs?

    As to the complaint that gender studies lack empirical support – they are part of the postmodern Critical Studies movement, which explicitly rejects objective analysis. Critical Race Theory and the concept of Equity is another example dominent in academia.

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  65. What I would like to find out who really, and I mean really did write Feminine Mystique!

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  66. @Michael Kenny

    If you want an in-depth analysis, I’d recommend Gottfried:

    You can download it for free here: http://download.library1.org/main/622000/dc2d0b23b301f6e78d4a43b4d3d9a36e/Paul%20Edward%20Gottfried-The%20Strange%20Death%20of%20Marxism_%20The%20European%20Left%20in%20the%20New%20Millennium-University%20of%20Missouri%20%282005%29.pdf

    For a brief review, see this: https://www.unz.com/pgottfried/yes-virginia-dare-there-is-a-cultural-marxism/

    Other than that, Gneisenau has given a more up-to date & correct description of the meaning that pops up in informal conversation…

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  67. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Gender crap is chic-victim-hood or chictim-hood.

    Chictims are privileged people playing at victims. As non-whites gain more wealth, power, and privilege, they still want to cling to badge of victim-hood. Since they are too well-off to be classic victims, they come up with nonsense issues like the Politics of Black Hair.

    Among white elites, gender crap is a useful form of chictim-hood. When a white man pretends to be a ‘woman’, he can become an instant chictim.

    Now, white females, as women, have some victim-points as being ‘oppressed by patriarchy’. But they feel vulnerable for two reasons. Non-white women are more resentful toward white women than non-whites are toward white men.
    According to PC, white men are the Bad Guys, and it’s understood by both non-whites and proggy white males. So, the politics is pretty simple when it comes to white males. They are bad, and the only way they can be good is by hating themselves.

    But because white women have victim status as ‘women’, PC is more blurred about their place in the victim hierarchy. As whites, are they oppressors? As women, are they victims(of men of all races)? White men don’t pretend to be victims, but white women do. So, while there is a clear line between white males and non-whites, there is no clear line between white females and non-whites(esp the women). (To be sure, non-white women mostly feel oppressed by white women being regarded as prettier.)
    This confusion has led to much anger against Beckies. But the pushiest white women are the Berkies, the Berkowicz girls, the Jewesses.

    Because white women have a dual role as oppressors(whites) and victims(women), they may seek refuge in gender-crap. By claiming to be lesbian or a ‘man’, they earn gender pokemon points. As mere white women, their victim status is tenuous, especially as old guard feminists are now being attacked for being ‘hateful’ against trannies. But if white women claim to be lesbian or trans, their victim-status is consolidated because, in the Current Year, nothing is more celebrated than Homo-Tranny-mania. But consider the irony. White women, in order to be surer victims, must make themselves into ‘white men’ via trans-genderism.

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  68. @Squarebeard

    The ironic thing is that feminists who push this stuff are making women into angry and helpless creatures who are never responsible when an event or situation does not turn out as they would have liked.

    Well….yes:

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  69. Thomm says:
    @Deschutes

    What nonsense. Fact: in California up until 1970, there was no tuition to attend state universities. Go and look it up. Anybody with a good GPA could enroll at UCLA, UC Berkeley, UC Davis, etc.

    Oh, the cost of tuition stayed very low all the way up till 1995 or so. This was a great bargain for professional degrees like MD, JD, MBA, etc.

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  70. @Anon

    ‘…This confusion has led to much anger against Beckies. But the pushiest white women are the Berkies, the Berkowicz girls, the Jewesses…’

    God, yes. I used to make my living running a small (me and my truck) moving business.

    Please…you’re bringing up unpleasant memories…

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  71. Pontius says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ha! It was Old Milwaukee, Lone Star and Olympia for me. I had 15 brews the first time I ever drank beer. We were in the middle of a beer strike in Canada in 1985 and the local gov’t bought up all the cheapest beer they could lay their hands on and sold it at a huge markup. I never touched another beer for 20 years!

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  72. ohmy says:

    The entire educational system in the U.S. needs to be restructured, and doing away with gender studies is only the beginning. Common core needs to be expelled. Reinstate the art of teaching by, returning morals, logic, and real (revisionist) history, and economics (especially the history of banking) to the curriculum.

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  73. @Bardon Kaldian


    Re the cartoon, of course women in the West can’t wear burkas; not unless they’re — at a minimum — prepared to pay a very hefty social cost. Conversely, in Iran, you have to at least make a superficial concession to the requirements of ‘Islamic’ dress; I think a headscarf is mandatory.

    Interestingly, even in Japan, you will very rarely see a woman with her arms uncovered. I dunno if they actually think about that, or if it just happens.

    The one country I’ve been in where women actually seemed to be free to dress exactly as they pleased was — ironically — Turkey. There, whether you’re in Istanbul or deepest, darkest Konya, you’ll see lots of women in Western dress, and in the traditional Turkish caftan-and-scarf rig, and in full burka battle-gear. The proportions vary — Western dress might be the wear of choice among 60% in Istanbul but only with 20% in Konya, while Burkas might go from 10% in Istanbul to 20% in Konya — but the full spectrum seems to be tolerated everywhere.

    The caftan-and-scarf rigs are very nice, by the way.

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2sbOonoqiwraWh5Sld5aVhxTE0

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  74. The issue is not with gender studies — certainly there is plenty that can leaned understanding the differences in male female dynamic. I would say that in modern society in which technology has shifted the male female traditional roling, such research might prove useful.

    But it’s usefulness as a mechanism for political and social power dynamics is a serious problem in which theory, speculation, conjecture, and careless modeling and application are treated as fact .

    But whether said research is entirely useless is probably a bridge too far.

    Note: I was interested in this Swedish study of empirical proof — I was unable to locate it — this is a problem for the article’s import.

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  75. Harald Eia has explored these gender issues long time ago..

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  76. Pontius says:

    What you’re all missing is that the degree just gets you a foot in the door to apply for any position the requires a “degree”. Most of them will just end up taking anything that pays half decently and pat themselves on the back thinking they have done something worthwhile.

    Or, in a government town like mine, they will often write a civil service exam, go to bureaucrat school, get an entry level job as an admin assistant (i.e. useful work) parlay that into a first tier management position, ride the diversity/gender equality wagon into upper managmentment/policy advisor role where they will then have the authority to enact all the bullshit they were indoctrinated with. They will have a long and fruitful (for them $$$$) career flying around the world on junkets to listen to how we are responsible for every other country’s fucked-upedness, booking an extra few days here and there for some personal shopping while in Singapore, Paris, Berlin etc. and post endlessly on Facebook about how wonderful everything is and dropping names of all the famous people/politicians they get to schmooze with.

    By the time they hit the wall they realize they are childless, most of the men they think are good enough for them are already married, or divorced and “never doing THAT again”, and have lived a life so far removed from the reality of most people that that have almost zero in common with most anyone they could have reasonably had a relationship with. Cats/substance abuse ensue.

    All the bullshit soft studies degree holders are well represented in the bureaucracy.

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  77. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    30 years age 12 to 42 is not a few short years

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  78. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Both library science and PE are very employable majors. PE is a required subject in every high and middle school and some elementary school. There are plenty of jobs in park and rec departments for PE majors.

    There are libraries in every neighborhood and village. There are also law, medical and other specialized libraries. Most big law firms have a librarian with a library science degree

    I’d say those are 2 majors with good job prospects.

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  79. @drunkard

    Unlikely. 30 Years ago there was no internet and you were drinking a lot.

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  80. @EliteCommInc.

    Note: I was interested in this Swedish study of empirical proof — I was unable to locate it — this is a problem for the article’s import.

    ?

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.01011/full

    Feminist activist women are masculinized in terms of digit-ratio and social dominance: a possible explanation for the feminist paradox

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11192-017-2407-x

    Objectivity and realms of explanation in academic journal articles concerning sex/gender: a comparison of Gender studies and the other social sciences

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11192-018-2729-3

    Comparisons of content and scientific quality indicators across peer-reviewed journal articles with more or less gender perspective: gender studies can do better

    https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2846580

    Characteristics of gender studies publications: a bibliometric analysis based on a Swedish population database

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  81. @Pontius

    Sir, you are correct and this could not be repeated more often.

    People with “soft” college degrees generally do not have trouble finding semi-decent paying employment somewhere in government, in management, in the education bureaucracy, in sales and marketing, in the media, in some kind of PR or HR or liaison position, or in any one of a number of other places where such people are warehoused. Now, it’s true that the cultural conditions which give rise to this situation are something of an historical aberration and certainly won’t last forever, but it’s also true that these conditions have been in place throughout the entire life cycle of the oldest generation of still-working adults. In fact, if you want to rationalize past performance, you could say that this was one of the wiser career moves anyone could have made in the last 50 years. How many other ways can you think of for a person of average ability to attain to a comfortable middle class lifestyle while doing relatively easy work?

    But for some reason this has never quite sunk in with a lot of people around here, many of whom still want to bang the drum about STEM, STEM, STEM. There are a few realities about STEM that ought to be more widely understood.

    To begin with, let us stipulate that a modern nation cannot do without a number of highly qualified engineers, programmers, and scientists, but this number need not be vast. If the H-1b phenomenon and the corresponding declining wages are any indication, it would seem that the world is already producing too many of these people. Many of them are set to work on the pointless startups of Silicon Valley venture capitalists and aren’t actually doing anything worthwhile to begin with. A modern nation needs an air force, a space program, and an electric grid, but nobody really needs a Facebook or a $1000 iPhone. The predatory capitalists know that they couldn’t afford to pay a market wage to an army of top-notch engineers to work on these stupid projects, so they hire cheap, poorly trained foreign replacements. What we really need is a limited number of truly talented engineers making a commanding wage to work on necessary projects. We don’t need H-1b Indians and cultural shit from Silicon Valley.

    High-end STEM careers are difficult and demanding and ought to be that way. Only perhaps 1-2% of the population is qualified to even set out in that direction. And those 1-2% already know who they are, so it makes no sense to “encourage” more people to enter the field when their presence there can be of no benefit to themselves or anybody else.

    Instead, we ought to stop poo-pooing public service as a career choice and we should encourage intelligent, thoughtful, right-thinking, common-sensical young men to enter government, the bureaucracy, and management rather than leaving those vitally important fields open to the depredations of financial pirates, sociopathic shysters, and type-A dickweeds.

    The lesson we have yet to learn is that in modern societies, good management is just as important as good engineering. We can’t afford to simply dump the also-rans there. This is territory we need to take back, and the sooner the better.

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  82. Respect says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey

    Alfred Kinsey ( 1894 -1956 ) was an american zoologist pretending to be a sexologist . His ( false ) reports on sexuality induced in society the idea that there was much more homosexuality , infidelity , sexual perversions etc.. than was previously thought . He paved the road for the sexual revolutions coming ahead .

    Other sexologists opposed and critizised his reports , but curiously Kinsey always had the backing , and banking , of very high and powerful political and economical entities of the US establishment , while his critics were ridiculed and even prosecuted by the academic establishment . Interesting .

    English maltusianism is very happy with feminists women and homosexuals

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  83. bj says:

    Red Ice Radio – E Michael Jones – Hour 1 – Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control

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  84. Academic feminist programs serve the purpose of getting somewhat lazy or financially pressed but capable women to quit STEM programs to “get a degree,” and end up unemployable, whence many get married. Something about great powers having a sense of humour. Women from strongly patriarchal societies, who come to study in the west, have to answer to their sponsors, and so get the STEM degrees. Ditto.

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  85. unseated says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Whatever the US does, politically correct Australia does (cough) “better”! Almost all Australian universities have signed up to Athena Swan – the gatekeeper of the gatekeepers.

    https://www.sciencegenderequity.org.au/category/athena-swan/

    It is now mandatory to discriminate against men in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) disciplines. Deans in some universities are paid bonuses for appointing women to these disciplines. My advice to young talented male graduate students in STEM in Australia is to either leave academe or go overseas.

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  86. mark3383 says:
    @Deschutes

    spoken with the usual literacy and tact of an obese live at home leftist

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  87. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:

    This will make Hungary the only country in the EU which doesn’t allow Queer Theory to be taught on the taxpayer’s dime.

    Haha. Nice one, Lance.

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  88. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:

    SJW D&C (divide and conquer) ideology has become a staple of education in Western countries.

    Why is this allowed? How’s this legal? The new, fake “Left” has completely abandoned its former goals of economic justice and replaced them with this White Genocide tripe.

    Again: why is this allowed? It’s a massive, taxpayer-financed, partisan political indoctrination. Why is the mainstream “Right” not challenging this in Western countries?

    Why is Trump silent? Millions of young voters are getting brainwashed into voting for a brown/black vagina in the coming elections. Anything – as long as it’s not a white male or in the interest of the White Race.

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  89. barankai says:
    @Jason Liu

    you probably wanted to say “right wing Socialists” b/c U’s in Hungary are all but a very few gov funded and practically also gov controlled institutions
    imagine POTUS telling Princeton what to teach and what not…

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  90. @Che Guava

    Guava- please look at my comment. I am praising Achmed and dcite. Please read more carefully. thanks

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  91. @Che Guava

    I never called Achmed a leftist. I agree with Achmed.
    I am nearing 70 years age.
    I know MAD magazine and Alfred E Newman. I was a street kid. I knew all the down to earth stuff.

    I clearly remember the leftists being extremely smug and condescending. The ones whose mommies and daddies put them in summer Communist camps were the worst.
    These people were dangerous. Some of them were the bearded, Berkenstock look but they varied. They worked in jobs where they never got their hands dirty. They always talked about killing Republicans and Conservatives. They usually lived in expensive neighborhoods like Greenwich Village and other “hoidy-toidy” places in Manhattan. Many lived in Scarsdale and other Westchester, NY towns. They also would drive back to Long Island and Connecticut.
    They lived fat in the USA but they were Bolsheviks first. What pompous phonies!

    They treated us blue collars as though we were ignorant wastes and then they went back to their expensive homes and apartments. I can never forget what hypocrites they were.
    And they never criticized Israel.

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  92. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @barankai

    POTUS can be elected or un-elected by the people. Western democracies are deeply (((compromised))) but, despite all the odds, that’s exactly what happened when Trump got elected.

    Imagine Soros telling Western universities what to teach and what not…
    …oh, wait.

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  93. Thomm says:

    The author makes the mistake of thinking that the ban in Hungary does one iota to reduce the ubiquity of extreme feminism in the Anglosphere.

    For one thing, Hungary has not been a democracy for very long, and is a relatively poor country.

    By contrast, in the US/UK/Canada/Australia, society is into nearly a century of female suffrage (women vote for the singular goal of transferring resources to them and consequences onto men). Single motherhood is heavily subsidized and so normalized that it cannot be undone.

    Democracy always devolves into an extreme feminist police state. Remember that White Trashionalism is just another form of feminism, since it is obsessed with woman-worship.

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  94. Corvinus says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Maybe on Jerry Springer they are, but not in real life.”

    You are purposely being obtuse here. Men and women are clearly baby making machines. BOTH need one another.

    “It’s not the clock that’s being destroyed. It’s that the time can run out quickly.”

    30 years for women to choose to have a baby with a man is a good chunk of time, and it goes by not as fast as you think.

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  95. @Lost american

    William M Gaines was a communist, and even took the men on the staff of MAD magazine for a visit to the Soviet Union once. Mind you, he did not take the women, as he expected them to be disappointed with the lack of shopping opportunities.

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  96. FB says:

    ‘Rees cannot see that “open-mindedness” and “working through intellectual difficulties” cannot go hand-in-hand with the dogma that a “brighter future” is inherently “more equitable.”

    So that brighter future we all want is only going to come about if we start being less equitable…?

    This idiotic statement betrays this ‘author’s’ own extreme dogma…here’s the definition of ‘equitable’…

    ‘having or exhibiting equity : dealing fairly and equally with all concerned…

    [ie] an equitable settlement of the dispute…’

    At the heart of the very definition of ‘equitable’ we find the word ‘equity’…defined thus…

    ‘…justice according to natural law or right; specifically : freedom from bias or favoritism…’

    Yet this ‘author’ would have us believe that ‘natural law or right’ is somehow so incompatible with a ‘brighter future’ that the two are mutually exclusive…?

    Conversely then, the only path to a ‘brighter future’ is by denying natural law and right…

    This is what happens when one chooses to argue from a position of extreme dogma…this ‘author’ shows he is just as ideological and dogmatic as those in the ‘gender studies’ camp that he opposes…

    The result is that his obvious ideological extremism only appeals to extremists…while repulsing moderate folks who might otherwise agree with his general direction, which is opposing the truly ridiculous and socially damaging field of ‘gender studies’…

    No person who believes in ‘natural law or right’ in the first place would support the extremism of the ‘gender studies’ camp and the attempt to normalize sexual deviance in human behavior…that is clearly at odds with the concept of ‘natural law or right’…

    Similarly no such person would also espouse the unnatural masculinization of women and the emasculation of men…which clearly the extreme ‘gender studies’ camp seeks to promote…

    But in arguing against such plainly wrong ideologies, do we need to embrace the equally repugnant and extremist ideology of inequality…?…especially in this age of Robber Baron excess…wage and debt slavery…of unequal justice for rich and not so rich…?

    Apparently this ‘author’ is convinced that we do…and in doing so, also trample the ‘natural law and right’ that is at the heart of our collective human tendency towards equitable human relations…

    So thanks, but no thanks…from someone who is appalled at the extremism of ‘gender studies’…but we really don’t need arguments from equally extremist positions to make this particular case to normal people…

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  97. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1035907169391140864

    Because white guys lost their manhood to black guys, the only way they can regain their ‘manhood’ is by pretending to be ‘women’ and beating women at women’s sports. They out-man-euver the women. To do this, they must pretend to be ‘women’.

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  98. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Challenging conventions” is the slogan of Permanent Revolution, of Liberalism, Anarcho-Communism, Nihilism. Of Chaos.

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  99. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    So that brighter future we all want is only going to come about if we start being less equitable…?

    If we take into account the gist of the whole article, it’s unlikely that Lance was against equal opportunity. He’s challenging a Gender Studies, (more than) equal outcomes, drone.

    Personally, I believe you’re over-exploiting a semantic error. I’ve never met an SJW who’s really into “natural”, “fair”, “equity”.

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  101. FB says:
    @Anonymous

    No…I’m well acquainted with the drivel that is this ‘author’s’ bailliwick…racial intelligence hypotheses and other such nonsense…his sort would have surely enjoyed considerable upward mobility in the sick society that was Nazi Germany…and that’s the kind of society he seems to be agitating for in his sophomoric diatribes…

    The entire ‘field’ of IQ is a complete pseudo-science…useful only for making very basic distinctions such as separating out the truly idiotic…from a hard-science perspective we know almost nothing about how intelligence actually works…

    Psychology itself is mostly a pseudoscience that has spun off into all kinds of quackery…as with most of the so-called ‘social sciences’…you could get rid of all that garbage and the world wouldn’t skip a beat…it is just navel gazing, tea leaves, goat entrails, and chicken bones…

    Fools like this ‘author’ merely use this quackery for pushing an extremist agenda…[which is in fact all about divisiveness, itself a destructive but common human impulse...]

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  102. Jesus says:
    @FB

    Thank you. You nailed it. Kind of shocking it took 96 comments for someone to spot where the true weakness of this article is.

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  103. orionyx says:
    @Deschutes

    I think the article makes it quite clear that Mr. Orban is not preventing anyone who wants to from engaging in gender studies. All he says is that they must do it on their own dime. Is that to much to ask?
    But I suspect that you have a personal ax to grind. Only in gender studies or the like would you be able to find a job while keeping your daft ideas and the potty mouth to express them.

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  104. Deschutes says:
    @Colin Wright

    No, definitely not ‘just the way it is’. Your straw man about ‘children not having a sex identity’ is most unconvincing and a bit desperate actually. Puberty: go and look it up. Read and learn.

    Simply because you are in denial about trans identified people and refuse to acknowledge their existence won’t make them go away. Look at Chelsea Manning. Or from an earlier era, Renee Richards the tennis pro. Or the film director pair the Wachowskis who directed such blockbusters as Matrix series or Cloud Atlas. . There are MANY more, famous transgender/trans identified people, read about them here-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transgender_people#A

    The list is MASSIVE. There are here, living amongst us by the millions. Might as well get used to it. Ain’t gonna put that genie back in the bottle. You can continue to live in denial; the transfolk will continue to live their lives–and many of them quite successfully. That said, given your staunch refusal to even acknowledge their existence, maybe its best for you to keep your head deeply buried in the sand? Just a suggestion.

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  105. Deschutes says:
    @mark3383

    Indeed. Why offer any actual reasoned or thought out argument when name calling and insults are more your speed. Next….

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  106. Deschutes says:
    @Anonymous

    Obviously this topic is a bit beyond your maturity level and makes you feel unsafe.

    Maybe you’re better off reading some other article like American Pravda or John McCain? Or maybe go and watch ‘Fox and Friends’ on TV if reading is a bit strenuous for you?

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  107. Deschutes says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Yes. All those countries DO in fact provide university education for their citizens free of charge. Sorry to bring you the bad news!

    …but go ahead and deny it. Now, if we can only get a high school education in USA to cost as much as going to university! Ah yes, the ‘American way’ :-D

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  108. Che Guava says:
    @Lost american

    Alright, point taken, but the flow of your post makes it very easy to assume that that was what you intended with your last two paras, so you need to take more care with expression, you were inviting my misunderstanding,

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  109. Che Guava says:
    @Deschutes

    At the moment, I have only one friend from the U.S.A. Hispanic and IQ abt. 80. I support allowing early leaving the school system even at first grade, juniour high, as the Americans put it. Trade courses, work.

    Next time we are meeting, I will directly ask ‘Did you actually graduate from high school?’ If the answer is ‘yes’, as I expect, you have giant problems with the education system.

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  110. FB says:
    @Deschutes

    Most of what you say is factually wrong…

    First Orban is not in any way shape or form related to the sick puppet regimes installed by the US in Ukraine, Georgia and other places you mention…he is in fact very friendly with Putin and Russia…

    The fact that the neoliberal puppet regimes in the EU don’t ‘take him seriously’ says more about them and their sick policy of supporting US imperialism which brought on the refugee crisis to begin with..by destroying for no reason the countries of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria and others…

    Orban did not support these illegal wars of aggression…but Germany, France and the UK did so, in fact wholeheartedly…so now why should Hungary clean up their mess…?

    Second…you seem to be living in disneyland if you think that capitalism especially in the US, somehow encourages hard science education…the US graduates half as many engineers as Russia, which has half the US population…a per capita ratio of graduate engineers four times lower…

    Also Orban is to be applauded heartily for taking down the scumbag George Soros…possibly the most destructive force the modern world has ever known…

    As for ‘gender studies’…yes it is useless…but I have also pointed out this author’s extremist agenda…see my comment here…

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  111. Jesus says:
    @Deschutes

    “I remember in uni it was always the stupidest people who would attack Art majors, history majors, English Lit majors etc. “You’ll never get a job with that shit degree blah blah”. ”

    From my experience i can confirm this assessment.

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  112. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    The entire ‘field’ of IQ is a complete pseudo-science…useful only for making very basic distinctions such as separating out the truly idiotic…from a hard-science perspective we know almost nothing about how intelligence actually works…

    Oh, so you’re a moron. Never mind.

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  113. NOT ACCURATE: “Gender Studies is centred around postmodern “deconstruction” with a view to empowering females and assorted sexual deviants.”

    Deconstruction is used DAILY by the UNZ Review among others to closely read a text and find contradictions within a text which reveal the presence of a larger (propagandistic) agenda within the text. It works regardless of author. The person who wrote this — one Lance Welton — doesn’t know beans about Deconstruction nor the authentic strategies of postmodernity which have become deranged at the hands of gender radicals like the Big Pharma-funded TransGender Industrial Complex. These strategeries are useful tools but not in the hand of people who think women have penises.

    Moreover this writer owes me and tens of millions an apology for calling people sexual deviants. As a male homosexual, NOT-cis-gender and NOT TransGender, he might wish to do so before I, for one, reach out from this computer, bounce among satellites and fiber optic cables and proceed to rip his throat out.

    Further, women need to be empowered since they were first domesticated by men like this writer along with cattle, chickens, goats, sheep, dogs and wheat. Women are NOT property. Get over it.

    Lance might explain WHY women were counted among cattle, chickens, goats, sheep, dogs and wheat that way and why that is a good idea.

    He might want to educate himself further by reading Against The Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States by James C. Scott, which is an account of new evidence now available that contradicts the standard narrative for the beginnings of the earliest civilizations.

    The deranged gender issues need to be, ahem, DECONSTRUCTED and male rape culture, for that matter, needs to be exposed and STOPPED but not by scalp-taking.

    And Lance needs to get over thinking he is pretty enough to attract the flirtation of any homosexual. Lance, you ain’t all that and you would CERTAINLY not be able to carry your end of a conversation after sex. Think about that.

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  114. dina says:
    @Deschutes

    Gender comes from latin gignere wich means to create a new life.
    What do we need to learn since we know full well what the different roles in society are: males fertilize while females give birth.

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  115. prusmc says: • Website
    @FB

    You forget the most important comparison. On a world wide basis the US education industry produces the highest number and highest per capita out put of Lawyers.

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  116. FB says:
    @Anonymous

    ‘Never mind’ what…?

    That you have nothing of substance to counter with…?

    Or that you are clearly a mentally soft dumbshit who runs away frustrated…crying and hissing…?

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  117. FB says:
    @Thom Prentice

    I didn’t know ‘Lance’ was pretty…or a homosexual…

    Thanks for the info…good to know…LOL

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  118. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    BRILLIANT: German Politician Mocks PC, Addresses Parliament in 60 Different Genders

    Sometimes the best way to prove the insanity of your opponents, is to give them exactly what they want Here’s something you don’t see every day…a German politician fighting back against political correctness which has risen to the point of insanity. In the parliament of Brandenburg recently, the Green Party introduced a bill to adopt a “Campaign for Acceptance of Gender and Sexual diversity, Self-Determination and against Homo and Trans-phobia in Brandenburg” as well as “Giving equal rights and societal equality for LGBTTQQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Trans, Two-spirit, Queer, Questioning) people in Brandenburg” The Green Party, which still holds a substantial share of the vote in Germany, is notorious for their advocacy of homosexual marriage and adoption as well as pedophilia and promotion of “trans-gender” agendas. (One Green Party leader, Daniel Cohn-Bendit even openly bragged about raping kindergartners.) Germany already has strict “hate speech” laws that effectively criminalize any criticism of racial or religious minorities – those laws may soon include criticism of someone’s self-proclaimed “gender.” Enter Steffen Königer of Germany’s new Alternative for Germany party (German acronym: AfD). AfD is known for being a Euroskeptic party which opposes mass immigration to Germany and political correctness. Königer rose to voice his party’s opposition to the measure, which was also supported by the Left Party and the Social Democratic Party. Not wanting to leave anyone out, Königer opened his speech “Dear Ladies and Gentleman…” and then took the complete list of 60 possible genders which has been adopted by Facebook, and proceeded to name each one in a salutation which lasted over 3 minutes. Even the establishment politicians sitting behind him could not fail to recognize the brilliance of his response. There may be hope for Germany yet.


    Guns and 1950s lifestyle – German weekly magazine anti AfD cover, illustrating an article about right-wing populism

    AfD responded by publishing a mock cover titled “How our opponents want to live”.

    Source: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1156112/ Archived link: http://archive.is/1flNi

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  119. Gender studies was always bad ideology masquarading as good science. Thank god the backlash has began.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/MakeAmerica1stAgain

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  120. Them Guys says:
    @Thom Prentice

    Homo sex, is, deviant. And No homo fags deserve any apology for made a choice to be a homo sex fiend. It is as unnatural an act of sex as can be. The main reason for human and animal sex is to make copies. Homo sex never makes copies aka descendants to keep the world going.

    Homos and Dykes/Lezbos and all the other newer created crazy name terms, invented to describe the latest new group to join up with dykes and fags. Matters not. They all are deviant sex in one form or another. People who long past predicted that, if such deviants were ever given an, Inch, next they’d demand a foot, a yard, a mile, a country mile….It would never end, with new and more devious unnatural sexual misfits demands…And we see that is precisely what has happened.

    Yet in the Real natural world, the vast huge majority of folks have never, and never will, accept it as any type Normality. Because like it or not…It Ain’t normal. It Is deviant and a sickness of the mind.

    Any day or week now, we are almost certain to see a brand new fag or dyke group arise, get famous quick via corrupted Jewish MSM Medias, and begin demanding a right to have sex with the Animals of their choice….Next will be a right to Marry said prefered animal sex partner….Cry, Cry, Cry like a baby untill laws change so Jimmy the fag or Suzie the dyke can now get married to their favorite Donkey! “But! My Sex Partner Donkey, Casanova,..Really does Love me! and I too Love him/her!”

    And if wishes were Eagles, You’d Fly!

    Funny No? How most folks can claim to have been at a Thousand or more, parties, weddings, funerals, Birthday party events, and all sorts of similar events within their lifetime so far, right.

    And funny also how at most such events, sooner or later the issue of a persons kids arises…In various modes of conversations at said party events in small talk etc….Yet….

    Why do we Never, Ever seem to hear anybody who’s bragging about their small young children, or recently born baby of 1-or2- yrs old, ever when asked such as…”So, what are Your and the wife’s Future plans or goals and desires for the child or baby once grown up?”

    You Never hear any parent state how: “Well Me and the wife discussed it all often now, and so far…Our Hopes and dreams for Our small kids once grown, is that…Joey, our 2yr old boy will become a fuckin Faggot, and later graduate to be a heroin Junkie!…For Little Sizzue Q, who is now 5 yrs old…Well We hope she takes Male steroids and hormones so she can be the Best Dyke, Male like, US Army member, and some day go on to Die in Battle in some far away mid east lands which Jews wish to hate and demolish.” “Yes, indeed! Me and my Husband agree, we plan to do all we can to encourage such deviant unnatural sex lifestyles for both kids, since we so, so, admire fags and dykes and such type sex fiends.”

    I personally have met or know of plenty of goofy homo men and women….And I have gone to well over a thousand events or gatherings like parties etc…And have overheard or participated in too many to count, conversations where those exact type questions arose and got debated and answered…And NEVER even once, have I Ever heard a single parent, male or female, Dad nor Mom, ever state how…”Gee sure hope Jenny and Johnny, Our two small children, end up as a Fag and Dyke! or maybe even end up as a Transgender clown too stupid to look in their Pants and see if they a boy or girl!…Indeed, Me and my Husband both agree, our lives shall be full and complete once we are Certain both small kids we now have, turn into a Flaming Homo lezbo and faggot!”

    Funny such dreams and desires are never heard said eh?….Can it be? 99% of worlds people Know what deviant sex homos and dykes and animal screwing fool idiots actually are? And never wish their kids to be such? yes…Yes, I believe that attitude overwhelms the pro homo bunch, big time. And always will.

    Homo sexual deviants were listed in every psycho med books, as a Mental Illiness and remaind as such, until and Only due to, Dem Lib Lefty Marxist who wish to destroy all that is good and wholesome, all that is Natural and right and proper, based on their never ending quest to communize everybody and every nation. Kept the pressure going and use of same White Guilt policy to finally get it removed from Psycho med book listings. Back in 1970′s era.

    That don’t make it not a mental sickness….They can de-list other sickness’ and even de-list a broken arm or leg as a phys anomoly and unatural…But it wont change facts doin so, eh. Broken Arms and Legs will still need repair and still hurt with pain, and still 99.99% of worlds POP will believe, correctly so, that its still a medical claim or emergency status.

    Too bad when they removed homo sex as deviant mental sickness from psyco books, they didn’t also remove all homos and send them elsewheres. Let us just hope we never see as many homos as we have of Negroes in usa because we can only deal with so many severe problems at one time.

    I bet if an Honest vote was held, and everyone honestly voted ther true beliefs….That at least, 90-95% would vote, yes, if a magic wand can be waved to disapear as if never existed, Fags. Dykes, various sicko trans genders et al, and negroes also from the nation of America. And no amount of debates or demands or threats is going to change what so many folks think and will not change.

    Being against such deviant sex is a good thing. It is the homos et al promoting bad and unatural acts that serve zero good, and only produce Harm in several ways sooner or later. Many good reasons exist as to just why most folks hate to be any place where such deviants are at. It disgusts most folks, and That Is a normal proper reaction, regardlss WTF any homos or lezbos claim, period.

    PS: Just you wait, all who think that, the new usa military policy to allow Fags, Lezbos, Dykes, Transgenders, and whatever else of such a sicko group is next invented as, is not going to fully ruin and wreck the entire usa military forces?….Just wait and see. Of all bad issues you can debate, about whats bad for the usa military forces…NO other issue or thing can be as bad or destructive as current fag/dykes allowed policy….Just wait until in some real battle when army infintry Females are captured, and while they advise enemy captors, that..”Hey NO Gang Bang Sex with Me, as I am a certified Lezbo/Dyke and never have sex with a male!”….Think That claim will prevent gang rapes? Next try a claim of only have Donkey or Stray Dogs sex partners…Yep that’ll stop enemy rapists eh….Fools, Idiots, Stupid lefty marxist destroyers…So when does it go Hot so Normal guys wont have to worry of being arrested when the real fireworks starts? Many Live for that day. Karma and payback day, eh…For wrecking America.

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  121. @Anonymous

    his first comment should have tipped you off

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  122. MarkinLA says:
    @Deschutes

    There were far fewer garbage degrees being offered back then and anybody with a degree from a decent school could usually end up in a management trainee program if your degree wasn’t particularly marketable. People had a real choice in that somebody who spent his time in high school in a good vocational program could come out and get a job as a mechanic, draftsman, machinist, welder, or electrician and make good money.

    Years of uncontrolled immigration, grade inflation, and affirmative action have made so many graduates with worthless degrees that just pouring more gasoline on the fire may not be an answer.

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  123. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm

    When I was at UCLA in 1985 they had just started differentiating between graduate level degrees. They had just made the decision to charge more for the law and medical school than for run of the mill graduate students. Most whined but some wrote an article in the Bruin about how a law degree from UCLA was still a bargain at 3000 a year. A regular grad student paid about 500 a quarter or 1500 a year. The law school was on the semester system.

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  124. MarkinLA says:
    @Colin Wright

    I was in the Uyghur Autonomous Region in China and was out walking around the town. I didn’t pay attention and didn’t notice anybody else until some guys who had state department experience told me what was going on. I was wearing shorts and people were looking at me and laughing. I didn’t realize it but after being told that in central Asia people covered everything, I then noticed. Nobody had any significant bare skin showing whether they were Muslim or not. Even young women wearing short skirts and high heels whose face was not covered wore very distinct leggings that went all the way down to their ankles. I never saw any shoes that did not cover all their feet.

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  125. @MarkinLA

    As a general rule, I don’t think grown men should ever wear shorts in public. I don’t care how hot it is. It just isn’t a serious look.

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  126. ‘…. Even young women wearing short skirts and high heels whose face was not covered wore very distinct leggings that went all the way down to their ankles. I never saw any shoes that did not cover all their feet.’

    That’s one of the intriguing inconsistencies about Japan. Girls can and do wear impeccably revealing short skirts. You can get a full view right up to the top of the thigh.

    But no uncovered arms. I suspect they don’t even think about it.

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  127. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    The one country I’ve been in where women actually seemed to be free to dress exactly as they pleased was — ironically — Turkey. There, whether you’re in Istanbul or deepest, darkest Konya, you’ll see lots of women in Western dress, and in the traditional Turkish caftan-and-scarf rig, and in full burka battle-gear.

    One can see what you describe in these videos…

    Inside The Weird World of an Islamic ‘Feminist’ Cult

    Inside the Islamic Cult Whose Leader Is Embraced by Israeli Figures

    But things seem to be changing for the worse in Turkey, unfortunately, imo…

    Women in Turkey protest attacks on what they’re wearing

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  128. MarkinLA says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    When I was on vacation in a foreign town, it was not unusual for me to walk for 3-4 hours and cover a lot of miles. Better to wear shorts than stink of a sweat soaked outfit.

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  129. 22pp22 says:
    @Deschutes

    I can’t believe I just wasted five minutes of my life reading that.

    No one takes Orban seriously?! The Hungarians keep voting for him. I think he’s fairly relevant to them. He now has soul mates in Italy, Austria, Poland, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Slovakia.

    He was hated by Hillary who kept insulting him and is chummy with Netanyahu. I do not know if that is a good or a bad thing.

    He is the first Hungarian leader ever to have been well known outside Hungary.

    You’re even worse at trolling than Tiny Duck.

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  130. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    How sillier can things get?

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  131. Che Guava says:
    @Lost american

    Thank you, Lost.

    Your anecdotes are clearly heartfelt and true. Summer communist camps? Would suspect they soon became summer Zionist camps, from reading.

    I am also of blue-collar origin. Still proud of it, even if meaning little now.

    Cheers to you.

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