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To listen to almost all the reporters on Fox News—and most of the Establishment Media experts—after the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, you would have thought that President Donald Trump needed to do exactly what the Reverend Jimmy Swaggart did back a few years ago: get on TV and cry and bawl, and emotionally apologize: “I have sinned! I have sinned!” And then add, “I know in my heart that I am a ‘white nationalist’ and have unleashed all this horrible violence and murder! And I am deeply, exceedingly, profoundly, eternally, and unalterably sorry.” And as a final coup de grace: “From now on I will be a good Establishment Conservative, I will listen to great thinkers like…hmm…National Review’s David French, and Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg. And I shall dwell in the House of Martin Luther King and the NAACP forever!”

Only Tucker Carlson uttered a demurer, of sorts. According to his nearly lone voice on national television (“Tucker Carlson Tonight,” August 6):

“If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns of problems this country faces, where would white supremacy be on the list? Right up there with Russia probably. It’s actually not a real problem in America,” Carlson noted. He added that the combined membership of all the white supremacy groups throughout America could likely fit inside a college football stadium. “This is a country where the average person is getting poorer where the suicide rate is spiking,” Carlson said, drawing light on the real pressing problems that face Americans. With Russian collusion fantasies no longer gaining traction, this is another attempt by the political establishment to demonize President Donald Trump and cling to power. “This is a hoax, just like the Russia hoax. It is a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power. That’s exactly what’s going on.”

Of course, being on Fox did not keep Carlson from being attacked by other Fox personalities, and, unsurprisingly, the most direct hit came from Shepard Smith, the notoriously open Leftist who handles Fox News in the afternoons. Without naming Carlson specifically, Smith zeroed in for the kill:

[I]n direct contrast to Carlson’s comments, Smith [endorsing Joe Biden’s criticism of the president as a racist] demanded that we “recognize that white nationalism is real, that white nationalism is on the rise, that white nationalism is without question a very serious problem in America and [we must] beat down those who would help facilitate it and encourage it.” [Italics mine]

The usual luminaries from Establishment Conservatism also eagerly jumped in to trash the president—and his supporters, those unruly and unwashed “deplorables”—as witness just a couple of selections from the dozens of our supposed “betters” who lead the “conservative opposition,” but in actuality normalize and deaden us to the Leftward progressivist madness that engulfs and destroys more of our historic culture and heritage each day.

There was the insufferable David French, senior writer and senior fellow at the National Review Institute. Here are some of the choice things he said about Trump and those who have in the past supported him. I quote him at length because he symbolizes what most major voices of the “Conservative Movement” are saying:

The United States is now facing a deadly challenge from a connected, radical, online-organizing community of vicious white-nationalist terrorists. They are every bit as evil as jihadists, and they radicalize in much the same way….[W]hite-supremacist terror… a new youth movement of hate…the ‘alt-right’…targeted Jews, it targeted African Americans and Hispanics, and it targeted critics of Donald Trump. It obsessed over immigrants from south of the border. It used words like “invasion” to describe immigration, and words such as “replacement” to describe the imagined fate of white America. It thrilled to Trump’s rhetoric, and parts of Trump’s movement loved it right back….

Think of the thrills, energy, and inspiration they’ve experienced from the highest office in the land…since Trump came down the escalator in 2015. His announcement speech cast immigrants collectively as dangerous and deficient, with only “some” exceptions. He has used the language of invasion frequently, even to the point of invoking a military response….

Alt-right support for Trump wasn’t random. It wasn’t arbitrary. It was directly related to his rhetoric, and it was cultivated by his allies, and it was cultivated in part because it was a new way to fight….[O]ur nation’s leaders need to focus on reconciliation and unity, and if they are not up to that most basic and fundamental aspect of their job, then they must be replaced. [Italics mine]

Then, there was little Ben Shapiro who fancies himself an up-and-coming major player in the moldering and pallid Movement. Shapiro did not employ the colorfully Leftist vocabulary that French utilized, but he still managed to get in his licks against the “Chief-white-nationalist-in-charge.”

Trump, wrote Shapiro, is a flaming “xenophobe” whose tweets “All too often…are bad, both morally and politically.”

The comments by French and Shapiro represent a range of “conservative” response, and in between you will find exhortations by such worthies as Steve Hayes, Martha MacCallum, Matthew Continetti (married to zealous NeverTrumper Bill Kristol’s daughter), Karl Rove, and a long list of others, most of whom are Neoconservatives.

At the very least, as a first step, they demanded that the president roundly condemn “white nationalism.” So President Trump did come out and condemn it, generically. He should not have done so. Such a cave in was never going to be enough to satisfy his critics on the Democratic Left or many in the weak-kneed, ideologically poisoned “conservative movement.”

As Tucker Carlson almost alone pointed out: the issue of white nationalism is a politically-motivated charge and a hoax. And the statistics—which you will never hear quoted by the media, including on Fox—confirm this.

Christopher DeGroot has researched this question, and he discovered the actual figures, and they contradict what you have heard. From the Mass Shooting Tracker, here is the information (reported by writer Daniel Greenfield) that should, but isn’t, being discussed:

The perception that mass shootings are a “white man’s problem” lingers around the country because white mass shooters tend to get more publicity. And, the twisted young male who goes on a public shooting spree fits a certain kind of media narrative. But when we actually study the mass shootings that took place in 2019, it’s clear that Patrick Crusius and Connor Betts are not the norm, but aberrations.

Mass shooters have no particular ideology. Crusius and Betts were opposites ideologically. (Though both cared deeply about the environment.) Nor are mass shooters a white problem or a black problem. Over the same bloody weekend, William Patrick Williams, who is African-American, appeared in court after being arrested by the FBI for planning to shoot up a Texas hotel with an AK-47 rifle.

Looking at the data from the Mass Shooting Tracker, widely utilized by the media, as of this writing, of the 72 mass shooters, perpetrators in shootings that killed or wounded 4 or more people, whose race is known, 21 were white, 37 were black, 8 were Latino, and 6 were members of other groups.

51% of mass shooters in 2019 were black, 29% were white, and 11% were Latino.

DeGroot continues, citing Colin Flaherty in The American Thinker:

In the two-week run-up to Gilroy there were 36 other mass shootings from coast to coast—and 34 of those shooters were black. One was white and one Hispanic. These results echo a ‘New York Times’ story from 2016 that stated, much to the surprise and chagrin of the reporters, that whenever there are three or more victims of gunfire, 75 percent of shooters in America are black.

Notice the extreme discrepancies between the real statistics and what you hear broadcast uniformly by the media—a media which engages in a not-so-subtle effort to foist on a gullible public a fake, highly ideological narrative that: (1) all or almost all “domestic terrorism” is by white males, (2) white nationalism (and white supremacy) is the root cause of it, and (3) Donald Trump gives go-ahead “dog whistles” to white nationalists. It is a narrative that the Establishment “movement conservatives” fully participate in, even if they protest that they don’t go quite as far as, for example, the loony Beto O’Rourke.

From whence comes the greatest danger of domestic terrorism, from whom comes the greatest danger to our already profoundly threatened liberties and our heritage as a people? What—who—is the, by far, major threat not only to what remains of the shredded American Constitution, but also to us, individually and in family?

Just as the perfervid conversations about the shootings in Dayton and El Paso were reaching a fever pitch, news came from NBC Universal Studios that it would be releasing a major motion picture nationwide in September. Titled “The Hunt,” the film graphically depicts a “killing game” in which rich, limousine Leftist millionaires take weekends off at a posh resort and engage in the sport of hunting down, brutally torturing, and murdering “deplorables”—that is, folks like you and me who oppose the aberrant progressivist assault on and perversion of our culture.

Here is how Brandon Showalter at The Christian Post describes the movie:

“The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum’s Blumhouse [production company] follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals,” The Hollywood Reporter noted. Characters in the movie that are considered prey for the hunters are referred to as “deplorables,” a term former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used to describe supporters of presidential candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 election.

“Did anyone see what our ratf—-er-in-chief just did?” one character in the movie asks, making an apparent reference to President Trump. “At least the hunt’s coming up. Nothing better than going out to the manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables,” another character replies.

When the news of the film—and its trailer—surfaced, there was outrage. NBC Universal tried to explain it away; the trailer was withdrawn, and finally the September release date was postponed indefinitely, but significantly, the film was not permanently deep-sixed. And Universal, caught with its zealously ideological pants down, sheepishly tried to explain that, well, you see, it is just a satire, not really THAT serious (just like Kathy Griffin holding a model of a bloody, severed head of Donald Trump, remember that “satire”?). Even the conservative National Review bought into the weak satire explanation, and, once again, blamed the president for this film, “[which is actually] sympathetic to Trump voters,” being put aside.

Alas, those 600 movie screens across the nation and those thousands of unaccompanied teens and Millennials will just have to wait to see all the gore and mayhem maybe later on…and learn how to treat that neighbor up the street who is a “deplorable”?

But the very thought…the idea conveyed by the film, satire or not…was already there in vivid and disgusting color, ready to go, and if no one had noticed, if there had not been a popular reaction, it would have been released.

And why not? After all, a major reporter, Frank Figliuzzi, NBC’s national security expert contributor, had figured it all out and explained it to NBC anchor Brian Williams (who, of course, took it all in):

I have a piece out just tonight in the New York Times on what, sadly, I think is going to happen next if we don’t disrupt the chain of radicalization…. We have to understand the adversary and the threat we’re dealing with. And if we don’t understand how they think, we’ll never understand how to encounter them. So it’s little things and language and messaging that matters. The president said that we will fly our flags at half-mast until August 8th. That`s 8/8. Now, I’m not going to imply that he did this deliberately but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that`s being demonstrated by the White House.

The numbers 88 are very significant in neo-Nazi and white supremacist movement. Why? Because the letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet and to them, the numbers 88 together stand for “Heil Hitler.” So we’re going to be raising the flag back up at dusk on 8/8. No one is thinking about this. No one is giving him advice or he’s rejecting the advice. So, understand your adversary to counter the adversary.

The logic here, of course, is thus inescapable and follows directly on from the message of “The Hunt,” all the talk of putting illegals in Nazi-style concentration camps, and similar Nazi and white nationalist memes over the past two and half years:

  1. President Trump and the “deplorables” are Nazis or at least implicitly Nazi supporters (as well as “white nationalists”—there is no difference);
  2. Nazis, of course, are the ultimate evil and can only be dealt with by extinguishing and eliminating them;
  3. Therefore, Trump—but even more so, the “deplorables”—must be “dealt with,” and ALL methods are licit, from shaming, doxxing, in-your-face and violent demonstrations, banning on the Internet (happening as we speak), legal action and lawsuits, and, yes, even to physical violence. “Nazis” cannot be allowed in the new globalist America.

Isn’t this exactly what Willem van Spronsen was attempting to do on July 13, 2019, when he attacked the ICE offices in Tacoma, Washington, with incendiaries (and was celebrated as a martyr by the Left)? Or, the attempted murder of Representative Steve Scalise in June 2017, and the dozens of violent leftist assaults since January 2017?

The sooner those of us who qualify as “deplorables” understand that, the sooner we comprehend that there is no compromise possible whatsoever with those progressivists and Leftists—the sooner we understand that the self-appointed leaders of the Establishment “Conservative Movement” are not our defenders but 5th Column collaborationists, then, the sooner we come to the sobering realization that we hold our destiny and the future in our hands.

“Ecrasez L’infame!” –“Crush the loathsome beast!” said Voltaire about Church-State authority in pre-Revolutionary France. And, while I am, as a staunch traditionalist, definitely 100% on the other side of that historical issue, the phrase fits here: either we somehow crush the other side, or they will most assuredly crush us. It’s no longer a “cold civil war”—“total war” has begun.

 
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  1. peterAUS says:

    The sooner those of us who qualify as “deplorables” understand that, the sooner we comprehend that there is no compromise possible whatsoever with those progressivists and Leftists—the sooner we understand that the self-appointed leaders of the Establishment “Conservative Movement” are not our defenders but 5th Column collaborationists, then, the sooner we come to the sobering realization that we hold our destiny and the future in our hands.

    And then……what?
    What is the vision/idea/intent/objective/goal/whatever?
    What is the general idea as to how to get/whatever it?
    What is the most tentative plan to start doing it, actually?

    Analogy for thick types:
    The sooner I understand that my jobs sucks the sooner will I comprehend that my team leader is not helping. Tick. Done.
    I have to do something about it. Yes. Tick. Done.
    Easy so far. The hard part now:
    What to do? How do to it? What to do first, second…etc…to get what I want. Which I don’t know now. Etc.

    I have something for the author and, perhaps 5 % of people blabbing in this pub: don’t you think we are getting into the phase where we could start DOING something about the problem, not just acknowledging, again and again, that we have a problem?
    Fine if we can’t do it. Not good enough. No prob.
    It would be sort of honest to at least acknowledge that.

    Hehe…not good or something else. a?

  2. anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    The PC-cult-think rhetoric has reached an incendiary level now, goading people into a state of mind where any spark could set things on fire. This is all very irresponsible and reckless, particularly in a country like the US with its political and racial divisions. Apparently they’re willing to tear the country apart in furtherance of their PC-cult-think future utopia which is just a fantasy to begin with. There has to be a fightback, everyone has to start becoming more outspoken as a first step. The educational system has to have all the generic Trotskyists purged from it. The media monopoly needs to be broken so as to have more independent voices available. These two are the major source of the mental contamination that’s infected parts of the population. Their rhetoric is shrill and threatening but the deplorables are the actual core of the country, the ones who make it run. There’s really no compromising with these people, they don’t want to do so anyway. Perhaps the silver lining will be that this extremism will push the deplorables out of their complacency and they’ll begin to stir. My money is on the patriots should they choose to react.

  3. Svevlad says:

    Who – whom

    • Replies: @Will
  4. @peterAUS

    Legal solutions are being pursued by Attorney General Barr. Do you expect extralegal solutions to be discussed here?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Trumpeter
  5. For the life of me, I will never understand what is so wrong with White Nationalism. Are whites uniquely un-entitled to having a country of their very own? To self-government, freedom and sovereignty? If someone has a problem with White Nationalism, then they must either have a problem with nationalism, or else they have a problem with whites.

    When the news of the film—and its trailer—surfaced, there was outrage. NBC Universal tried to explain it away; the trailer was withdrawn, and finally the September release date was postponed indefinitely, but significantly, the film was not permanently deep-sixed.

    God, I hope it isn’t permanently deep-sixed! A movie like that would be invaluable propaganda for our side.

    The sooner those of us who qualify as “deplorables” understand that, the sooner we comprehend that there is no compromise possible whatsoever with those progressivists and Leftists …

    Well, Boyd, you’ll be glad to know that the progs aren’t interested in any compromise solution anyway. Their goal is unconditional victory. So what now?

  6. peterAUS says:
    @WorkingClass

    Legal solutions are being pursued by Attorney General Barr.

    They are? Imagine that……

    Do you expect extralegal solutions to be discussed here?

    No.

    A question for you?
    Do you expect that “Bar solutions” will work?
    If not, any other possible solutions coming to your mind? Just curious.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  7. Patricus says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    The hysterical reaction of the Establishment to the Trump presidency is going to help Trump. Ordinary people won’t buy into the “you are a racist”, “you are Hitler” themes. I remember the Nixon-McGovern campaign. There was hysteria but the silent majority gave Nixon a landslide victory.

    I listened to various Democratic candidates in Iowa on CSPAN. None of them had more than 50 people in an audience, at least half the crowds were media and campaign aides. If Trump visits Iowa there will be thousands or tens of thousands at rural gatherings.

    2016 finally convinced me polling is useless. They had Clinton winning by large margins. Almost all polls were wrong.

    Economic events might hurt Trump but the gloom and doom crowd are running out of time. If Trump supporters are Nazis and White Supremacist then everyone is.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Voter
  8. @peterAUS

    Barr could accomplish a lot with regard to exposing the criminality in the FBI and among the spooks although I doubt he will lock anybody up. Or his efforts might come to naught. I think it would help if the Democrats were prevented from winning the next election. But I wouldn’t call that a solution.

    Separation is the solution. Nullification/Secession. A solution that may or may not require extralegal activity. But that will have to wait until America is just another large country in the Americas. Russia, China and Iran are playing rope-a-dope with the Anglo/Zio Empire. A winning strategy if it does not lead to a nuclear exchange.

    My advise for Deplorables is keep a low profile, keep your powder dry, and identify potential leaders in your local community.

    And teach your children it’s OK to be white.

    Thanks for asking.

  9. peterAUS says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    So what now?

    My sentiment exactly.

    My take: NOTHING.

    Things must get much worse before anything can happen. No way around it.
    There is no forward thinking/prevention here. “Let’s do this before it gets really bad”. No. It shall get bad and only then something could happen. Could.

    It’s…hehe…as guys who simply can’t quit smoking. And, after they do somehow survive a heart attack they quit in a second. Something like that.
    Of course, some don’t survive.

    • Replies: @Goddard
  10. peterAUS says:
    @WorkingClass

    Barr could accomplish a lot….But I wouldn’t call that a solution.

    Sensible.

    Separation is the solution. Nullification/Secession.

    Pretty much.

    But that will have to wait …

    Looks like it.

    My advise for Deplorables is keep a low profile, keep your powder dry, and identify potential leaders in your local community.

    I’d add “try to become that leader” too. In several possible scenarios. From nice through not so nice to really not nice.

    And teach your children it’s OK to be white.

    Definitely. Teach them, also, things which could be useful in daily, or in the future, not so nice scenarios. Say…….how to fight, for example.

    Thanks for asking.

    Pleasure.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
    , @Will
  11. MB says: • Website

    White nationalism is merely a dog whistle/code word for the fact that this country was largely founded and run by Europeans – white people IOW – and not Eskimos. Or Chinese. Or Africans. Or Indians. Or Etc.
    But the truth and reality of the matter is hard to handle and really upsets our guilty white liberal elite who hypocritically ie. religiously believe in equal outcome – not equal opportunity. (For thee, but not for me.)

    So America has to go. Ditto “white nationalism”. If they can’t frame it and smear it, their fraud might catch up with them and they would also go down when it crashes and burns.
    May that day hasten.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
    , @sally
  12. It’s the jews, stupid.

    Endless fucking jewing.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  13. ” and [we must] beat down those who would help facilitate it and encourage it.””

    That’s rich, coming from Shep Smith, who couldn’t beat down a Barbie doll. Media twits like Smith as well as democrat politicians are shrieking about white nationalism as though it’s the same as white supremacy.

    Black nationalism would be fine with these same people and none of them would dream of mentioning jewish nationalism as it exists in Israel. Jewish supremacists managed to put together their own shitty little country by means of terrorism and that isn’t even worth mentioning as a problem, though it is obviously a huge problem for the entire Middle East.

    The hypocrisy is really rank these days.

    • Replies: @Geowhizz
    , @mark green
  14. When is Trump going to disavow Dr. Seuss’s hateful books targetting children?

    From the manifesto:

    For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”.

  15. Golobki says:

    The word “invasion” is right on the money. No flowery euphemism needed.

  16. Paw says:

    For some time about 20- 30 years and longer The Security play a huge part of our lives in America and Europe. The police number, investigators, administrations, FBI,CIA, NSA and many other security agencies, everywhere ,private security guards, increased by millions ,together with cameras , planes, drones ,sky satellites , powerful computers watching everything, many trillions were spent and our world becomes and has changed into nothing else, but the Abattoir.
    Numbers of butchers and their cattle increased and still increasing…
    Still there are not apparently enough victims..Deplorables. Close to unwanted.
    This going on under propaganda of antiracism /anti-hatred-ism /
    and multiculturalism and antisemitism..
    No end in sight. Import of the invited and important butchers increases…
    The “security” even crawled into the security of the Manhattan Jail… There were some huge genocides and holocausts in the past. The Bolshevik one, The First world war, ..The Second world war,Vietnam , Iraq, The Crimean war, Syria, Iraq , Hiroshima and Nagasaki the new style , nuclear..
    Still it goes on unexplainable , as well as, Unstoppable..

  17. Paw says:

    We hear the loudest only complains every day , that “herds of cattle” are not convenient ,suitable and ready for the Abattoir when armed…

  18. @peterAUS

    I have been saying the same thing in hard-right comment sections for years. After a few decades you wise up to the fact that the establishment right is just a bunch of shills, losers, and commercial exploiters of naive folks who wait eternally for the prosecution of Clinton, Clapper, and Comey. But after another decade or two you realize that the hard right too are mainly losers, if not shills. Maybe they were subliminally hypnotized by Hannity et al. to think that whining is the end goal of the movement. Or, worse, they take a sado-masochistic pleasure in being continually frustrated.
    Having said that, Alinsky would agree that mere taboo-breaking and mockery of the left (trolling) is one of the most effective tactics in building critical mass. The sort of over-the-top totally offensive trolling you find on Daily Stormer is a real danger to the left, which is why this website has been so heavily assailed.
    It’s an encouraging sign that the left, or whatever you want to call them, is so desperate that they are resorting to massive censorship, blacklisting, harrassment, abuse of the legal system, and vigilante violence against the right. What is essential in such a situation is to keep our alternative voice loud and clear, as much as possible. The attempt to deny the existence of White Supremacism is counter-productive because it would be better if people thought WS were indeed a growing movement, which it is, if you take that name as hyperbole. While few people would seriously call themselves White Supremacists, it’s clear that a significant community of anti-anti-white nationalists is forming and they have motive and means, if not yet opportunity, to discredit the left’s cultural mantras and in doing so recruit millions of adherents.
    As to what is to be done, the long-term goal is to attract followers by using skilled trolling to rally their spirits and cogent criticism of PC dogmas to persuade their brains, and gradually jimmy our way into legitimate electoral politics, not in disguised form as me-too conservatives but with a nuanced but unapologetic right-wing alternative.
    Some other goals are to create internet infrastructure, set up resources to care for our wounded, and build alliances.
    I am not partial to old-fashioned southern segregationism and I see no contradiction in the idea of a white nationalism on one hand, or neo-reactionary movement on the other, that makes alliances with nonwhites where practical. My goal is not to go back to Jim Crow or the Third Reich but the America of the 1950s and early 60s before the counter-culture ruined everything.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @peterAUS
  19. Richard B says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “I will never understand what is so wrong with White Nationalism.”

    It’s a threat to Jewish Supremacy. That’s what’s “wrong” with it.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Charon
    • Replies: @jack daniels
  20. Paw says:

    After the Recent terrorist attack in Sydney , Australia /one person dead/,people reported , hearing , that the terrorist shouted loud :”Allah Akbar”!!
    They were advised by the police, that they did not hear that….

    • Replies: @anon
    , @animalogic
    , @Druid
  21. @anonymous

    The is an excellent point: “The PC-cult-think rhetoric has reached an incendiary level now, goading people into a state of mind where any spark could set things on fire” The Bolsheviks and their slaves which are white, black, and a few latinos are definitely inciting and pushing people’s buttons. This is intentional because they know their Jewish owned Media will do their bidding. The article correctly states the data that will never be publicized in any meaningful way to a white audience that has been beaten into the ground with some type of “white guilt.” There is no doubt that along with Obama and his entourage they are pushing for a race war. They believe that they have intimidated enough whites in America that they will just fold to their gangbanging and they will take over like some tribalistic African leader in their Utopian Society.

    There is no compromise here. They want to kill all whites and destroy Western Civilization. Obama had the same immigration conditions at the border and these clowns said nothing. Obama carried on the wars of Bush and Cheney and murdered everyone including children but not one Hollywood Slut said anything. But now it’s a 24 hour attack against whites, Western Civilization and everything that we build. Mostly they are Jews but we knew that. This is the country where we are all evil while in Israel Jews are not allowed to marry Palestinians.

    The entire thing is nothing but a ruse that is played out with such intricacy it would embarrass Machiavelli. But of course the Jews have had thousands of years to practice. The idea that they would care about children and immigrants is a joke. Here’s a good video that some of you may have seen before about the truth of illegal and legal immigration:

    • Replies: @Paw
  22. Franz says:

    Tucker Carlson got it right the first time.

    So if you’re a “white nationalist” where do you sign up? Who do you vote for? What’s the party structure and who are the leaders? Where on the ballot are they listed?

    Okay, mostly joke questions. During my working life I have donated to David Duke, Vanguard News Network, National Vanguard, plus a few local outfits nobody here’s likely to have heard about.

    The sum total of these donations, not to mention the works done by the above-named people and organizations, is negligible. Not to say they are useless and their work is futile. I only note their public profile is either zero, small, and probably cumulatively smaller than any one national-level Zionist organization.

    Tucker nailed it to the wall. Far all the good it does, there is no “white nationalism” in the USA and to pretend otherwise is pretty much a lie — or worse, self-delusion.

  23. GMC says:

    Gotta keep the mice { public} confined to there cage and give them that circus wheel to run – round and round and round on. These topics of white supremacy, nazis, muslims, are all just a fom of distractions, MK Ultra, Propaganda – simple shit – because then the ” Mice” won’t get off their ass { wheel } and really think about what is happening. Of course its also a great advertisement in order to keep the Holocaust money coming in – also. Nazi’s, White supremacists are great reminders but don’t write about the Ukraine Nazi’s – they are doing Israel’s and America’s work – against the East Ukrainians that speak – Russian. Thanks Unz review.

  24. Parfois1 says:
    @MB

    So America has to go. Ditto “white nationalism”.

    No need for melodramatic grandstanding, you know, and no need to wreck America either. The problem is only the US and its Jewish leadership; the other countries can look after themselves, especially once the US is reduced to being a normal state, acting according to international law and stop being the obedient servant of a minuscule entity in the Middle East.

    Here is an idea for starters:

    • Replies: @Ned2
  25. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paw

    Albanian name, what he’s doing in Australia in the first place is anyone’s guess.
    Certainly created a few problems for Australia’s compliant Media:
    On the one hand, he’s allegedly been reading ”White Supremacist” material, and on the other hand, he’s a Muslim.
    Looks pretty White to me, though with black hair and a head like a robber’s dog.

  26. @Richard B

    Exactly! I disagree with most of the scientific rationale and I’m not a defender of segregation, but WN has one very valuable characteristic: It justifies pushback against Jleft domination of national politics and it is very difficult for the Jleft to co-opt and control such a movement, since their pitch is based on demonizing its premises.

  27. gotmituns says:

    Over ninety percent of the shootings by young men are tied to the use of the anti depressant SSRI series medications – Prozac, Ritalin, Xanax, etc.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @JimBeem
  28. @Digital Samizdat

    (As per Carlson) There is naturally, no problem, whether white or nationalist.
    Both “problems” are contrivenesses aimed at Trump. Essentially a domestic version of the “Russia-russia-RUSSIA !” “problem”.
    It’s worth noting again that the word “nationalist” in “white nationalist” has become simple code for “supremacist”. These two words do NOT mean the same thing (an example of “supremacist” can be found in the old Galacia or western Ukraine).
    As for the “mass” shootings? Someone made a useful point that the shootings are symptoms of a rage caused by alienation (& the now common “despair”) . Alienation is merely a clever word to describe today’s individual who exists within the (on going) breakdown of communal/family bonds which has been going on since the 60’s. Semi automatic weapons are facilitators for expressing that rage.
    Incidentally, the worst group for killing US citizens is possibly the US Police. Every year they rack up a bit over a 1000 deaths. And they are definitely non-racialist: they’re happy to kill anyone (although, probably for preference, blacks — less chance the corpse has a rich, powerful family or friends).

    • Replies: @Charlemagne
  29. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    At the very least, as a first step, they demanded that the president roundly condemn “white nationalism.” So President Trump did come out and condemn it, generically.

    What a moron. They’re deliberately equating white supremacism with white nationalism in order to preemptively criminalise unification of whites to save their nations. It’s OK to be white – and it’s even better to be white nationalist.

    • Agree: geokat62
  30. @Robert Dolan

    Yes, Jewish people have been at the fore front of mass immigration of anyone/everyone.
    However, it was/is strongly supported by goy oligarchs who know that mass immigration dilutes the solidarity of existing citizens, while continuingly adding to surplus Labour (thus putting constant downward pressure on wages & conditions)

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  31. @Paw

    (assuming this not irony or sarc’) then WHAT terrorist attack?
    You mean the utter fucking nut-job who killed a prostitute with a knife (sorry, “sex worker”) & then ran around the streets, jumping up on cars, screaming his head off, & managing to stab some poor woman in the shoulder, until passer-by’s managed to subdue the moron with some chairs & a milk crate?
    Terrorist! My arse! Not do I give a fuck what the little shit shouted.
    If your goal is to render the word “terrorist” utterly meaningless then I congratulate you on your contribution.

    • Replies: @Paw
  32. onebornfree says: • Website

    The US Went Communist Long Ago

    “For most of the twentieth century, the United States tolerated a party openly dedicated to the violent overthrow of the government and the enslavement of its people. This party, the CPUSA was funded and directed by a hostile foreign government. It engaged in industrial and military espionage, trained guerrilla units on American soil, forcibly took over unions, raided their treasuries and controlled whole industries. It slandered, harassed and killed opponents; bribed police and judges and infiltrated the military.”

    “Obviously, it is sanctioned by the powers that be. Communism is monopoly capitalism with the government standing in for the central bankers (Rothschilds, Rockefellers.) These bankers, who happen to be Cabalists (Satanists), seek to extend their credit monopoly to power, thought & behavior i.e. our whole lives…….”

    “…….We were taught that Communism was an idealistic but discredited “working class” experiment, tried mainly in Russia and China.”

    “This misconception duped millions of unsuspecting socialists and liberals including myself. As recently as 1999-2000, I was singing the praises of Canadian Maoist dupe Dr. Norman Bethune to my English literature class.”

    “The Illuminati bankers created Communism to harness the working class to their program of a comprehensive world dictatorship (now known as “globalization.”) The Illuminati is a satanic cult (Jewish Cabalism.) It spawned Communism. They celebrate the same anniversary, May 1, 1776, and share the same satanic symbols.”

    “The program took a giant step forward in 1913 when these Luciferian London-based bankers gained control over America’s finances through the passage of the Federal Reserve Act. This gave them means and incentive to step up their covert war against humanity. The two world wars were the immediate result…..”:

    https://www.henrymakow.com/000843.html

    Regards, onebornfree

  33. sally says:
    @peterAUS

    The totality of White Supremacist would fit inside a college football stadium ? It would not be a tight fit.

    @peterAUS I agree the masses have recognized the problem and are beginning to DO something about it. .

    The problem is our leaders.. the USA model of governance is excellent, it denies all people of whatever kind access to any part of government (except of course for the votes at election time) . But there is an exception to the rule that no non elected person can access the government. If one has sufficient wealthy and if that wealthy one pays a reasonable amount to one or more of the elected, then access is possible.. and if one advances a massive amount to the pockets of our leaders, the military of the government and the legal and rule making powers of the government can be directed to do things like bring down an oil rich foreign country or wipe someone off the map or give a drug lord a monopoly in pharmaceuticals.. There is nothing that can’t be done by the USA if enough money is delivered to the pockets of those who are among the elected.

    So I suggest we remove from the COUS, by amendment, the parts of Articles I and II that provide 527 jobs for those who run for office and win. As amended, no person could run for office, therefore corruption at the very top would be eliminated at the top. This of course would make the bureaucrats and the Article III judges who are not elected but who do hold paid jobs in the government the corruptible. If both Article I (425 persons) and Article II (2 persons) persons are stricken from the COUS some means to control the corruption, incompetence, and negligence of those bureaucrats and Article III judges in office would be needed.
    To accommodate that need, I suggest replace the top down elected leadership with bottom up voter oversight.. for purposes of description there would be two governments, the functional government and the oversight government.

    That is, turn every eligible voter into a member of the oversight government, and make each of them both government auditors and a prosecutors of government wrongs.. The voters ( that is, the oversight government) would audit the bureaucrats and judges in functional government and single out and prosecute bureaucrats or Article III judges, who fail to do their job either through negligence or incompetence and prosecute those (bureaucrats, Article III judges, military, or government contractors or others in privy to the government who engage themselves in some form of corruption.

    How would a voter in the oversight government prosecute a person in the functional government?

    A special court called the voters court would be established. It would be independent of the functional government, but funded by amending the COUS to make sure the people’s court got 10% of the total tax revenue the functional government takes from the masses. In that way, the Special voters court, would have the money and powers it needs to prosecute and punish those in the functional government who commit any of the three INC crimes ==> 1. incompetence 2. negligence 3. corruption.

    I believe two governments, each with different powers, but each running in parallel would eliminate the problems elected politicians cause. The dual government eliminates the elected leadership all together.. No politicians are needed to the run the functional government.

    What do you think?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @m___
    , @RoatanBill
  34. USA 1943 says:

    Why are so many White men such pussies about saying what they believe? The only White people that seem to talk honestly and/or not politically correct are Pat Buchanan-says what he believes and uses history and statistics to prove his case, Tucker Carlson- mostly exposes the lies of the left, Paul Kersey-A pseudonym, he talks about differences to explain why some places never improve, there is a new man John Mark seems to have a theory of why different groups vote as they do, and believes Trump will be the last Republican President after 2024 due to demographic change, And he believes the left is making straight white males the villains who the left will mistreat forever unless the Nations split or Civil War. President Trump seems to be the Only Authentic President or candidate.

    Wether or not you believe them or their theories, you get the feeling They are saying what they believe.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Jake
  35. Intrinsic.

    Lesser (heads per planet) global population, automatically lowers migration.

    The deplorable is a liability to itself, but an asset in the short term to the “rich-poor´´(very imprecise token) gap.

    The elites of the West are measured in possession of hard assets, causing accumulation of debt ( pollution, toxicity, living space and air). They are getting poorer, but they do not understand this as such.

    Cognitive ability in Western societies is harnessed at best and incarcerated, at worst in real live prisons (Julian Assange). Elites do no longer stand for ability (ability always includes superior morals, since supreme ethics is but a synonym of opportunism at it´s optimum) but for sludge. The ones on the first row of profiteering, our Western European politicians are jesters to the sludge.

    Complex society has steered above evolution (Dutton E. a jerk of the public domain by himself, but his gut feeling pointing to psychopathy). Brute forcing, not by design, no one to credit.

    Now as to a solution, in that order, Nature, then entropy of human interaction, Elites enlightenment, and last but insignificantly the battery chicken called deplorable (quite a confusing term, since they seem to not notice, a design feature above all others of consumerism) rousing it´s obese bottom. Global farming comes to mind.

    The world is well as it is, there are chemical and digital ways to alter your cocooning reality, never available historically. One can eat endlessly and above calories needed, masturbation can be done on a smart phone leaving one hand free for intercourse. It won´t last, is hard wired as no pain, not my atomic me. We live in the perfect world and credit to no-one, having overview is not a degree of science or philosophy at Harvard.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  36. The hopefully-soon-extinct gop only fights for Israel and against any Republican with a spine.

    But do vote for (((Trump))), for the memes and his ability to screw things up better than any shitlib.

  37. @PetrOldSack

    Please feel free to copy with a twist.

    It would be nice to assert in the while that complex society needs more then three variables to be asserted. Then there are the Black Swans.

  38. @Franz

    The solution to this problem is very-very simple.
    In a matter of fact, the solution to almost ALL problem(s) the World is facing today.

    Order a NEW and INDEPENDENT investigation on 9/11.

    Then you will see everywhere the “rats” on the run….but they will be not able to hide.
    Not even in israel.

  39. DanFromCT says:
    @Franz

    Fox News and the Republican Party make sure there’ll be no coherent opposition to the leftist juggernaut. How about that “Shep” who wears more makeup on camera than a drag queen and says he’s proud that he “goes home to the man I love.” It should go without saying after watching even a few minutes of various Fox News shows that their assignment is neutralizing natural leadership among America’s white population from arising, instead giving us the Republican stooges in Congress and Conservatism Inc.

    Take this beta douchebag French. This man has no public existence doing anything except maybe working the aisle at Lowes without the controlled opposition at NR. Years ago when I worked near NR’s office I stopped by to get some literature. It was shocking what a collection of preppy little beta douchebags I saw there. Conservativism Inc is all an illusion created by Jewish ownership of the fake opposition like NR. All these articles should include photos of these faggots like French and other Neocon stooges so we know when to stop reading on.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  40. @USA 1943

    Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Lew Rockwell and Thomas E. Woods are just a few white males who have been unafraid to openly defend their positions for decades and they are far more intelligent and articulate than any of the men you listed. Woods’ Twitter feed is hilarious in getting people of all political persuasions riled-up almost daily and is often pure comedy gold.

  41. The local newspaper in my town has refrained from reader comments when posting articles on near daily shooting episodes, the telling “ troll” comments as predictable as the color of the suspects.
    The conversations that occur at the lunch counter are not “ covered’ by the “ News”;an expanding black population, concern over declining neighborhoods,white flight to the point regional growth patterns altered are taboo.

  42. @anonymous

    The problem is good, moral hard working White Americans have allowed themselves to be taken in by the carnival barker Trump. This proves they are no smarter than the Obama bots. Both of these compromised cutouts did/are doing exactly what their masters that put them in office to do. Divide America, fuel the race/gender/political divisions so an eventual civil war can be started.

    The population, along with the author of this article are not even smart(or brave)enough to realize these staged mass shootings are nothing more than Hollywood style deceptions. No one questions anything, they just beLIEve everything that comes out of the telescreen.

    You had better wake up America, you are being played by both sides. The true masters goal is to get that civil war started. They can then roll in with their militarized police/military and proclaim martial law. Along with that will come gun confiscation and the suspension of the constitution(or what’s left of it). Poof, and in a few short weeks America as we know it will be gone. Perhaps Their NWO, One World Gov. run from Jerusalem will be rolled out. Noachide laws will then be enforced. You Christians Zionist had better research what that means for you: a quick hint, it will involve your neck and a guillotine.

    The true rulers of America know the economic collapse is coming, and they want this all rolled up before that happens. My advice is to prepare and surrender nothing. It’s time to awaken from what was once the American dream but has devolved into the nightmare on main street

    More on these staged mass shootings: https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/08/why-are-staged-deceptions-used-more-than-pure-false-flags/

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @sally
    , @Twodees Partain
  43. Poppy says:

    The sands of the hourglass are getting scarce. The enemy monitors our numbers and they are fearful. We can instantly pull our consent and literally darken the countryside. So in turn, they must label us with the most abhorrent label, before we do so.

  44. Rogue says:
    @jack daniels

    If you want people to read your stuff, use paragraphs.

    Granite size blocks of text are very unappealing.

  45. Anon[252] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh c’mon, you’re fiddling the figures. What self respecting white man with a gun would claim killing or wounding 4 people as a “mass shooting”. Incompetent or drugged up blacks maybe. But it would take three black shooters about 10 shootings to achieve what one serious white guy pulls off between tea and supper. Baruch Goldstein: how could he have been a black man?

  46. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @gotmituns

    Not sure about the exact percentage but many people have noted the SSRI connection. The establishment is doing fuck-all about it, naturally.

  47. Jake says:

    “Of course, being on Fox did not keep Carlson from being attacked by other Fox personalities, and, unsurprisingly, the most direct hit came from Shepard Smith, the notoriously open Leftist who handles Fox News in the afternoons. ”

    Smith should always be identified as the gay Leftist on Fox.

    One of the persistent rumors about why he left Ole Miss so quickly is not merely that he was caught in gay action, but that he was caught with a boy, a minor.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  48. Jake says:
    @USA 1943

    People follow their leaders. If their leaders keep telling them that the moon is made of green cheese, people will come to accept it.

    For a very long time, America’s leaders have been telling non-Elite whites that they and they alone are to BLAME. They have come to believe it.

    They will keep believing it until they are freed emotionally and intellectually and culturally from the Elites who run the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  49. @Digital Samizdat

    Let’s see here –

    I’m white – Irish-Cajun background to be precise.
    I’m an America first nationalist.

    To all you precious little SJWs out there:

    #SoWhat
    #PoundSand

  50. MarkinLA says:
    @DanFromCT

    I only watch Tucker and Dobbs in entirety on Fox any more. In the mornings to get the national news I channel surf and when on Fox, if they put on the leftist/neocon trash like Perino or that disgusting Russian Jew woman Tarlov, I immediately change the channel. Hopefully, since it is on cable, if enough people do that these two will be bounced off since they can probably detect that at the cable companies offices and relay that information to Fox.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  51. @WorkingClass

    Most Americans, including most politicians, I think, believe that the sainted President Lincoln settled the secession question for all time. To them, it is ILLEGAL and must be dealt with by eliminating such movements with EXTREME PREJUDICE. The word “indivisible” is in the Plege, for Christ’s sake, so, ipso facto, secession must be illegal. Isn’t that what our children are taught in government schools?

    I believe in Peaceful Separation. I also believe it will never happen that way.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  52. The violence and turmoil in America is caused by the demon-rats aka bolsheviks and their zionist overlords to destroy America and turn it into an Orwellian hell from which there will be no return.

    When the bolsheviks aka demon-rats finally get our guns , then the killing fields of bolshevik Russia will be here in America and 10’s of millions will be sent to death camps and murdered. The same type of killers are here in America that were sent into Russia in 1917 from NYC to start the revolution, read the book Wall Street and the bolshevik Revolution by Anthony Sutton to see how it was done!

    These are the same people who with traitors in the zio/US government did the attack on the WTC on 911 and tried to sink the USS Liberty and they got away with both war crimes and crimes against humanity, killing Americans to get to their goal of a satanic zionist NWO by killing millions is their goal.

    Read The Protocols of Zion, it is all right there and read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen and Remember the Liberty by Phillip Nelson to see what type of inhuman killers we are dealing with on the attack on the USS Liberty.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Cowboy
  53. Durruti says:
    @WorkingClass

    The Solution is not Alcohol

    My advise for Deplorables is keep a low profile, keep your powder dry, and identify potential leaders in your local community.

    Few media outlets, including this one, will allow a detailed discussion, of What Must Be Done by we Americans, We-The-People to regain our Liberty (Sovereignty, Economy, Honor). My article to this point was rejected, so I’ll try here.

    Our Yellow Brick Road

    [MORE]

    The way out of this mess, this political mess, is through a Political Rebirth, centering on the
    Restoration of Our Republic, Assassinated, along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, on November 22, 1963.

    Our Republic, albeit a weakened and distorted one was destroyed by an alliance of Rothschild
    Banker Oligarch Zionist MOSSAD with local Traitor Minions, CIA, FBI, Mainstream Media, Dems/Reps.

    I do not blame those who fear the Terror of the New World Order Oligarchs. But to Free ourselves and our Country, we must:

    1. Make the complaints: already done.

    2. Identify the Disease: in progress.

    3. Apply the Cure: Even the discussion of CURE has been almost completely blocked on ALL MEDIA, including so-called Alternate.

    Summing Up:

    We Americans must begin at 1. Committees of Correspondence
    advance to 2. Sons and Daughters of Liberty
    mobilize 3. Minutemen

    We fight for Political Goals, the Goal of a Restored Democratic Republic, the one we had before, to be polished in struggle, elections without $private$, all candidates receive equal media, Traitors to be rounded up, Banks Nationalized (you would leave them in private hands?).

    Committee of Elders to prepare for the elections (Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Joan Baez, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, you finish the list…………. Without Free Elections – there can be no freedom.

    Yes, we hope to win/recruit sections of the Armed Forces & Police, but they will only move AFTER we begin.

    Let’s begin to design the Cure.

    Just what flavor Icecream Soda do we want? Vanilla icecream with chocolate soda, & whipped cream topped with a cherry? Design your own; now is the time; seize the freedom.

    If we do not have a Dream, which constitutes our Hope, we will never advance to Liberty. We will keep whining – for eternity. Constructing The Cure is the Final Step. The enemy has constructed the Corrupt Pedafile Epstein/Maxwell Zionist New World Order. What will the Response of We-The-People be?

    Working Class, when you & the rest of the Working Classes Farmers, etc., come out of the bathroom, I would like a response.

    Durruti

    for the Anarchist Collective

    *Don’t worry about my small group; fashion your own with your own preferred flavor. March together under separate banners as we Restore our Democratic Republic with Liberty and Justice for All.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  54. I didn’t notice if another commenter had mentioned it, but there is speculation going around which says that Tucker Carlson was suspended by Fox after his WN remarks. Vincent James @ Red Elephants has been promoting this theory. Tucker, who loves fishing (it’s on his FB page), said that he was going fishing with his son, and would be back on Aug.19. (I think that’s the date he mentioned).

    As Congress always takes the month of August off, and many other high profile anchors and commentators take time off as well, I think it’s way premature to think that Tucker was suspended. We all need to take some time off now and then to recharge the batteries, don’t we? And I think what Tucker does every night has to be mentally draining. So, I think talk of Tucker’s suspension is way premature. Now, if he doesn’t come back when he said he would, then it’s time to quit watching Fox.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @bro3886
  55. Goddard says:
    @peterAUS

    Spot-on. A crash must come, then the rage. We are not at the end, we are not at the beginning of the end, but we may be at the end of the beginning.

    “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils,” said Powell. “In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.”

    One of those obstacles is procrastination.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  56. Tick Tock says:

    Well its never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.

    This is what so called Progressives/Liberals and Blacks and Hispanics are doing.

    Do they think that this can last?

    I guess they do but its only in a dream.

    Conflict may come sooner than you think.

  57. After the philly cop shooting/shootout incident…not a mass shooting??
    This then happens on the same street… again, not a mass shooting?
    MSM always has the final say in the narrative.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/5-shot-in-philadelphia-on-same-street-as-police-shootout

  58. JDawg99 says:

    This “White Nationalism” bunk is just another Jussie Smollett episode. They’re making it up because white people are criticizing people of color.

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  59. The media hold has already been broken. Websites like this one and Lew Rockwell’s and quite a few others are regularly presenting the truth. The long, slow grind is getting people to turn their backs on the legacy media and it’s steady diet of lies and propaganda.

    I have shared many such essays on Facebook but no longer have the option since I decided that just being on social media is implicit support for the enemies of truth and republicanism. The only option I see for me is to continue to send information to people I know via direct electronic contact, in the hope that more and more will see the light and pass on the truth about our dying country.

  60. sally says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    yes, I agree, the stage is set all that is needed is more false, misleading and polarizing MSM distributed propaganda to be created by the true masters.. …

    Have a look at this as well American Jews unite to reject Netanyahu’s decision barring US congresswomen

  61. Agent76 says:

    15th August 2019 USA: 1200 per cent more people killed by police than by mass shooters since 2015

    Consider that five years after police shot and killed an unarmed 18-year-old man in Ferguson, Missouri, there has been no relief from the government’s gun violence.

    https://truepublica.org.uk/united-states/usa-1200-per-cent-more-people-killed-by-police-than-by-mass-shooters-since-2015/

    AUGUST 9, 2019 Concealed Carrier Prevents Mass Shooting At Missouri Walmart

    When a 20-year-old man reportedly walked into a Springfield, Missouri, Walmart carrying tactical weapons and wearing body armor on Thursday, an off-duty firefighter carrying his own concealed weapon held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived.

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/09/concealed-carrier-prevents-mass-shooting-arkansas-walmart/

    Aug 4, 2019 Chicago: We have some of the strictest gun laws. Also Chicago: So many people are being shot.

    But while everyone is paying attention to these mass shootings and the increasing debate over how to properly deal with them, Chicago’s crime rate is continuing to skyrocket when it comes to firearms. So far in 2019, more than 1,500 people have been reported shot in the Illinois city.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/chicago-strictest-laws-violent-crime-rates/

  62. awry says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    There is no such nation as “whites”. There are many white nations.
    In the context of US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealand internal politics, maybe there is such thing (but in Canada there are the Quebec French). In the UK there are Scots nationalists, Welsh nationalists, Irish nationalists, English nationalists.
    In Europe there historically every nation is white and there was a lot of conflict between these, including genocide, ethnic cleansing, forced assimilation etc. Some are still going on.

  63. For crying out loud, it’s about the 1% wanting to take away the hordes of guns from the average Joe before they all band together to start a real shoot up, which could displace the powers that be and the underlings made up of the next ten percent of the population.

  64. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @gotmituns

    Gotmituns : It is not that simple , it is a non causal correlation .

    Take in consideration that aproximately , according to the Gauss curve , about 15% of the population have an IQ between 70 and 85 , what means a mental age between 12 ( 70 ) and 15 ( 85 ) years old .

    These people are considered normal , but with ” borderline intellectual capacity ” . These people have a lot of trouble finishing High School , they are slow to learn . Frequently there is a family and social rejection in accepting there are so many people below average intelligence , and the school and the medical systems medicalize the problem and considers them hyperkinetic, atention disorders , impulsive , dislexics etc… ( what many are , since 70-85 IQ people have a 4 times higher prevalence of psychiatric disorders than the general population ) , and medicates them to control the most disfuncional symptoms .

    Many of these people have a tendency to abuse alchool and drugs since adolescence , what makes things worse . They fail in the school , at work , in interpersonal relations , they are rejected by the other sex , they are rejected by a demanding labor market , and they continue most of their lives being medicated for alcoholism , drug abuse , impulsivity , violent behavior , anxiety , depression , severe frustration , aggression …..

    I do not know well the norms for buying fire arms in the US , but I guess these persons can , and I guess that without Prozac , Xanax, etc… there would be many more shootings in the USA .

    Greetings

  65. peterAUS says:
    @jack daniels

    You’ve made your position clear:

    the long-term goal is to attract followers by using skilled trolling to rally their spirits and cogent criticism of PC dogmas to persuade their brains, and gradually jimmy our way into legitimate electoral politics, not in disguised form as me-too conservatives but with a nuanced but unapologetic right-wing alternative.
    Some other goals are to create internet infrastructure, set up resources to care for our wounded, and build alliances.

    Civil, legal, slow and steady, a?
    O.K.
    My take: won’t work.

    …My goal is not to go back to Jim Crow or the Third Reich but the America of the 1950s…

    Got that.
    I think you are wrong. The WORLD has changed. There is no going back to that position. Or…..yes….maybe….if we all go through conventional WW3 with the same result, for USA, as the WW2. Big topic, let’s not get there.

    Bottom line, you’ve left three fundamental elements out of your approach:
    RACE, NUMBERS and TIME.

    That we disagree here means nothing.
    You are correct as to who is on the Right and how they act/behave. Or, at least, 90% of them.
    My take: as things go, better men and women will shift/will be pushed, there.

    In any case, won’t be pretty.

  66. sally says:
    @MB

    The Organized Oligarch Empire (TOOE) constitutes much of what you identify as white liberal elite.

    TOOE uses the salaried, elected USA persons to govern and police America, just as the British did before the American Revolution in 1776. TOOE controls and owns the land of the free and the brave because elements in the TOOE have control over those who are in command of the USA. There is a billion mile distance between TOOE controlled persons who dictate the operation of the USA and every day Americans.

    TOOE uses its wealth, its use of the law of vote-cancellation seen best in candidates presented on a split party ticket (Reputaturds vs Democraps), its engineered mind controlled content distributed 24/7 privately-owned MSM, and the elected, at the USA itself, to control Americans .

    The law of vote cancellation and the 24/7 media with mind-control enhanced propaganda rules are TOOE tools used to produce and direct the outcome of every election held in TOOE controlled USA occupied America.

    History has shown the nation state model of government can be strong, but it has major weaknesses that can be overcome by creating a parallel government capable to protecting the voters from human abuse, corruption, and political engineering (HACPE) by those elected or appointed or hired to act on behalf of government.

    If independent oversight government(IOG) with a separate, independent of the USA court were created and funded by say 10% of the funds collected by the functional government (USA). Such funds could be used to empower judges to hear cases<==individual non elected citizens would bring such cases to the IOG voter court.
    In such voter courts, likely Defendants would include any persons in privy with the operations of the USA Ideally, a citizen would accuse and charge any person in-privy with the operations of the USA, at any time, with crimes of inefficiency, negligence, misdirected or unlawful use of power or position, attempts to involve or engage America in extra-American activities, or attempts to circumvent voter or constitutional authority, or engaging in corruption or activities that are corrupt. Plaintiffs would be the citizen that brought the charges. In addition to the the voter’s court and the establishment of an oversight parallel government another change would be needed; that change would empower the people in America to challenge any law or decision made by or decided by the functional government (USA). <=such a challenge would allow the voters to decide, in a general election, if a law passed by the USA is to be allowed to be enforced or if a decision made by the USA is to be allowed to stand Such decisions and laws would be presented to the voters for a veto on the law or a rescission of the decision. Such changes could be accomplished by amendments to the existing USA constitution, or I guess the constitution could be rewritten and presented to the people of America for ratification and the new ratified constitution replace the existing constitution as was done in 1789. But we don't need a civil war, we need to work this out..

    Some say the stage is set for civil war.. all that is needed is more false, misleading and polarizing MSM distributed propaganda to enable TOOE to be able to use the USA to dictate to America. see divide and redivide, and divide again

    It is interesting to look at the USA asan armed, rule making third-party intermediary acting between TOOE and ordinary Americans.. From that view, the challenge would be for Americans to somehow regain control of the USA so that the think tank universities and fake news and propaganda creators and monopoly powers and privatization pundits can be denied and outlawed.

    Americans often engage independent thought, actions and are continuously inventing disruptive technologies each of which install great fear in TOOE. Hence the TOOE have used the USA to create for themselves a set of laws, that allow the members of the TOOE to use money to acquire monopolies on anything that comes along: such as (copyright, patent and private property laws) and to private rights in public enterprises (privatization) that enable government monopolies to be transferred to TOOE elements. <this is why the rich keep getting richer

    Example. Elements in the TOOE enjoy a monopoly on X but some "nobody", in his/her kitchen invents Y, which Y, eliminates the demand and need for X… under USA law, the TOOEs just buys up Ys invention and prevent the innovation from reaching the market unless and until the TOOEs can establish a way to make all the money from Y.

    Monopoly powers and monopoly ownership and competition-not-allowed market spaces are the hall marks of economic Zionism.. Until the USA eliminates using rule of law to create monopoly powers which private interest can acquire Americans will never realize their right to self determination. . IMO

  67. From whence comes…

    drop the “from” or substitute “from where”. “whence” means “from where” by itself.

  68. Cowboy [AKA "Kartoffelstampfer"] says:
    @DESERT FOX

    From Makow, a great Protocols of Zion cheat sheet:

  69. anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:

    The desperation of white supremacist lowlifes in trying to whitewash the innate psychopathy of their kind is so nakedly apparent to all. They try their best to limit the scope of their kind’s psychopathy.

    They produce statistics and quickly compare against others which suits them best. We are not as bad as those others, they mendaciously claim.

    These are the same accursed dark-soul vermin who have been responsible for building the most evil weapons of mass destruction, and using them mostly against innocents, as they plunder the earth… and yes, quite proud of it too, mfers.

    No matter how they win the propaganda war, the reality of their DNA-imbued psychopathy will never escape them. It is who they are.

    An eternity in the worst recesses of Hell awaits their rotten godless souls.

  70. peterAUS says:
    @sally

    What do you think?

    In theory very good. In practice, won’t work in this Universe.

    Here it is: the life for an average Deplorable is still too good, especially in USA, to risk it going aginst the system.
    Whatever we read anywhere about “poverty” in USA is nonsense. A smart, I repeat, SMART,family of four, on social help (unemployed) in USA lives better than a middle-class family of four in around half of the world. More importantly, white Americans in such positions are, how to put it politely….not very good in abstract thinking. Underclass, working class, true elderly. Those people aren’t able to organize anything. Yes, up to 5 % of talent there can, but let’s not get bogged down in such details. There is a reason why officer corps is sourced from middle class and up (educated) people.

    The pressure “progtards” have been increasing (I don’t call them Left/Communist; they have nothing to do with that) and shall be affecting the middle class and even upper class. THAT is the moment.
    When people from those two classes realize that no matter how well they play the game they’ll lose the things will start changing. No matter how a White person keeps his head down, plays along, work hard, obey….they’ll come after him/her. They must to keep the system going.

    The problem is, of course, that will happen when odds are much harder than now. There will be more of the opponents (immigration), more of the system in place (as it’s being built as we speak) etc.
    BUT, the core of that system ARE those very people.

    No (White initiated) secession can happen now. Core FBI/the rest of those outfits, and more importantly, armed forces, are loyal to the central government. And, key personnel there are White.
    White Colonel will execute the order. White Leutenant too. His senior NCOs too.
    Or FBI guys.

    But, with this lunacy increasing there will come the time, soon, when those above shall have their doubts. BIG doubts. And all they need to do is…do their job badly.

    Now, there is an additional point here. A BIG point. US position in the world. And nukes.
    So, a question for you:
    What would you choose: a chance to get your own homeland where you won’t be singled out as eternal victim……………..or…………a chance of nuclear war with M.A.D. possibility?

    Things will have to go really bad for US White middle/upper class to get into state to “make a move”.

    When everything is said and done I believe that some version of Brasilian society is the most likely in “colonies”, from USA to New Zealand.
    But, again, who knows?

    On our, who post/read here, practical level I see “us”, Whites, finally realizing who we are and banding together. THAT will be huge and probably within the next couple of years. I can feel it’s starting, even in my own neighboorhood.
    Hahaha….all we need is, really, to start behaving as Jews and all will be good.

    • Replies: @m___
    , @Will
  71. peterAUS says:
    @Goddard

    …A crash must come, then the rage…

    I wouldn’t go that far. Crash I mean.
    A true hardship must come, IMHO, for the White middle and upper-middle classes.

    In practical terms, no matter how good M.D/FBI senior type/US Army-Marines senior type/etc you are…..you will be destroyed at whim and by chance. No matter that you worked hard, with talent, for 20 years…just one “wrong” word/gesture and your career, your life as you know is over. Instant drop to the level of Deplorables or worse.
    People from that group/social strata will lead to any meaningful change.
    That’s for the “topdown” work.

    As for daily, “bottom-up” life. well, we’ll start getting organized at the micro local level. As the rest do, with us as targets. Being a target is a great motivator……….
    In neighboorhood, getting to know Whites around, getting friendly with them, helping them/us….making small, invisible, below the radar, micro-communities. As….hehe…Jews do. Or everybody else.

    The top-down and bottom-up will, hopefully, meet at some point not so long from now.

  72. bro3886 says:

    They are every bit as evil as jihadists, and they radicalize in much the same way….[W]hite-supremacist terror… a new youth movement of hate…the ‘alt-right’…targeted Jews, it targeted African Americans and Hispanics

    The overwhelming majority of cases of racial violence involving white people involve them as victims, a fact well known to French, but the only place you’ll find less about racist violence against whites than in the pages of the New York Times or the Washington Post is in the pages of National Review. (They have nothing to say about Billy Chemirmir for example, to use a current instance of black-on-white racist mass-murder.) Will French ever issue a quote like connected, radical, organizing community of vicious white-hating terrorists. They are every bit as evil as jihadists, and they radicalize in much the same way….white-killing terror… an old movement of hate…the left…targets whites to describe, not some obscure web sites, but the mainstream media, academia, BOTH political parties but especially the Democrats, and government bureaucrats, who put out a constant stream of racist dehumanization of white and who are largely responsible for the racist mass-rape, murder and assault that have taken place against whites, including children, since the revolution of hate in the 1960s? The post-60s U.S, government, a white-hating racist institution, spends tens of billions of tax payer dollars to support a vast number of university departments that teach nothing more than white-hating racism and provide a sustenance for an army of professional racists. You often read reports of black racist thugs spewing a bowdlerized version of the hate that comes out of the establishment while they savage their white victims. Inspector French can’t put these things together, though. Probably because his donors don’t want him to.

  73. thordaddy says:

    If “white (s)upremacy…”

    Cause: white (S)upremacy.

    What is objective (S)upremacy?

    And what does one call a white man who believes in and therefore strives toward objective (S)upremacy?

    In order to Altar the sickNarrative, white (S)upremacy MUST BE defined absolutely relative to the perverted, self-serving conception of its enemies, who, in their anti-Capitalist parasitism, only apprehend “white (s)upremacy.”

    If “left” memes anything, it memes lower-casing the Higher Caste.

  74. ““If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns of problems this country faces, where would white supremacy be on the list? Right up there with Russia probably. It’s actually not a real problem in America,” Carlson noted. He added that the combined membership of all the white supremacy groups throughout America could likely fit inside a college football stadium. “This is a country where the average person is getting poorer where the suicide rate is spiking,” Carlson said, drawing light on the real pressing problems that face Americans. With Russian collusion fantasies no longer gaining traction, this is another attempt by the political establishment to demonize President Donald Trump and cling to power. “This is a hoax, just like the Russia hoax. It is a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power. That’s exactly what’s going on.”

    here’s why the case in defense of Mr. Tucker is a failure.

    Premise: there is no “white supremacy”
    Support: a. same as the russia claim
    b. US citizens are getting poorer
    c. suicides are up
    d. less people deny russian collusion
    e. it used to demonize the president
    Conclusion: white supremacy is a hoax.

    Laugh. I hate to admit but Mr. Tucker fails to make a case that white supremacy is a hoax. Not a single supporting contend denies the existence of white supremacy. Mr. tucker’s conclusion is based on his credibility alone. I say there is none therefore there is none. Believe me.

    Unfortunately people who are to escape the matter often, as does Mr Tucker avoid acknowledging what “what supremacy” means. You have to at least define the term. By leaving it nebulous Mr. Tucker is indicating: that he doesn’t know what it is, deliberately ignores what it is or some combination of both. Even without a definition. Mr. Tucker’s comments don’t make much sense. They are a series of nonsequitors from the overall premise and even from each other.

    The actual case: that there are more important issues than “white supremacy” has nothing to do with whether “white supremacy” actually exists or to what extent.

    In complete contradiction to Mr. Tucker’s comments:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Essay-on-the-Inequality-of-Human-Races

    https://news.uchicago.edu/podcasts/big-brains/rise-white-power-movement-kathleen-belew
    Aryan Nations World Congress

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/white-supremacy

    There are dozens of groups that espouse the superior status of people with white skin and as result of white skin should be accorded certain privileges and rights above others whose skin is darker. Hence the adoption of “one drop rule” and other practices. How powerful these groups are can certainly be debated. But there is little doubt that they exist and seek to advance their agenda. But regardless of the influence, The darker the skin the less power, which can be ameliorated in other ways, i.e. coming from India, Mexico, etc, all of which have their color dynamics in play in which dark skin is relegated less power.

    And it is bizarre that anyone of Mr. Tucker’s intelligence, breeding, insider connections, and education would miss or dismiss the obvious construction of the country, despite an increasing number of darker peoples role.

    One may challenge it’s force, its relevance, but to deny that it exists is a peculiar tact. Doing so has not bent a single bone liberal in my being.

    • Replies: @thordaddy
    , @m___
    , @joe tentpeg
  75. @MarkinLA

    If any of us is still giving his money to Fox News Corp. (and CNN, MSNBC, and their ilk) and the cable/satellite provider, that’s part of the problem. Withdraw your money and support whenever possible. Ditching tv is an easy one.

    • Replies: @m___
    , @Twodees Partain
  76. @follyofwar

    I wish that the Founding Fathers had put in a provision allowing any State to secede from the Union upon two 2/3 popular votes in referenda held two or four years apart.

    Perhaps we need a provision allowing one or more congressional districts to leave their State and form a new one.

    Similar requirements: supermajority popular vote in the district (but lower, like 60%) and another such vote to confirm it two or four years later.

    Eastern portions of WA and OR could probably pull it off and create their own States. Upstate NY too (especially if one excludes Albany). More power to all of them. Literally.

  77. @Jake

    Ole Miss was his nick name after he left.

  78. @follyofwar

    It’s already time to cut the cord and stop subsidizing our avowed enemies.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  79. thordaddy says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Yes…

    Denying “white supremacy” is classic cuck move.

    Yet, it’s not a stretch to conceive that most whites have no tangible relation to the “movement.”

    It’s also an historical fact that most “white supremacy” is {{{controlled opposition}}} and largely originates out of its enemy’s imagination.

    But alas…

    If “white supremacy…”

    Cause: white Supremacy.

    The demonization of the former is just the mundane attack against the latter.

    Effectually, though, only the relativists are ultimately mangled.

  80. renfro says:

    The white nationalist ‘deplorables’ will never win anything because they are too stupid.

    The last two ,who shot up the Jews in their synagogue , and then Mexicans in a Walmart accomplished Zero, Zip, Nada….except being condemned by the majority of citizens and putting themselves, despite what legitimate immigration grievances they have, on the National Most Wanted List.

    Then we have the equally stupid gun rights ‘deplorables’ who think they need a assault rifle to protect themselves from the government….as if the military wouldn’t mow them down in a hot second if they staged a revolution.

    And no I am not a open boarders or gun grabber liberal….this is just common sense.

    • Replies: @Poncho
    , @Vet
  81. @RadicalCenter

    Until we abolish the zionist owned FED and IRS, nothing will change, the zionists control the money creation and then taxed our income and made slaves of every American!

    Nathan Rothschild infamously said, I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England, for the man who controls the money supply controls the British empire and I am that man.

    It is the same here in the zio/US , the zionists control our money and we are slaves on the zionist plantation since 1913.

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Paw
  82. m___ says:
    @sally

    Any system can be corrupted by parallel interests. The issue goes deeper. The philosophy of greed, is the common denominator any single atom agrees on. That closes the gap between dull, thick, dim and smart individuals.

  83. m___ says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Much like Stevie Pinker on violence (better angels of our nature).

  84. peterAUS says:

    The white nationalist ‘deplorables’ will never win anything because they are too stupid.

    I’d say “not good enough”. They will be because the list will get much longer. The group will be filled, more and more, by competent people. Competent for This Game that is.

    The last two ,who shot up the Jews in their synagogue , and then Mexicans in a Walmart accomplished Zero, Zip, Nada….except being condemned by the majority of citizens and putting themselves, despite what legitimate immigration grievances they have, on the National Most Wanted List.

    There is another view. Don’t get this as a challenge or invitation for debate. Just say you like meat; I like veges.
    There was a lot more in those shootings for those who are ready to see. Hehe..granted, most people, at the moment, can’t see it. Good.

    Then we have the equally stupid gun rights ‘deplorables’ who think they need a assault rifle to protect themselves from the government….as if the military wouldn’t mow them down in a hot second if they staged a revolution.

    And that is something I can’t refute here. I can, with ease, in 15 minutes, in a person to person chat with somebody I TRUST.
    My impression is that people from your side like to bring that up to discourage the opposition. Works for majority, for sure. For those “in the know” it’s……just funny.
    I feel you’d like to discuss that here. We can’t and shouldn’t. I’ll tell you just this: 600 men/women, with bolt action rifles/shotguns, with PROPER mindset, in PROPER environment, taking PROPER steps (THIS!) , could make military “moving them down in second” impossible. Not even in a month.
    Ask some experienced Army/Marine/National Guard (in particular) Lt.Col (combat arms) how he would do it. Say, “how would you organize and execute (pun intended) an insurrection against the authority of Washington D.C. in your county/counties?”. Hehe…choose wisely who’d you approach. Could end badly.
    Because none of those types would even want to think about it.
    For now.

    And no I am not a open boarders or gun grabber liberal….this is just common sense.

    For most, definitely.

    • Replies: @renfro
  85. Geowhizz says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Shepherd is an ironic name for a lefty news guy. And yes, Israel and Jewish supremacism’s pc-ness clearly demonstrates which tribe rules the West.

  86. Art says:

    Trump’s Red Flag Laws

    Red Flag speech — Trump conflates “mental illness and hate” – those people who are mentally ill and those people who hate others – are the responsibility of government. The implication is that neither should have guns. That is pure Jew 101 propaganda straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That is Jew controlled commie Russia at its best. That is the start of the gulag.

    Clearly clearly clearly – Trump is under the influence of the Zionist Jews. Javanka is his loadstar. His Jew daughter and son-in-law have the most influence over him.

    If Trump should win in 2020 will Zionism lock down America? Will the Jew controlled news media, Jew controlled social media, Jew controlled congress, and the Jew controlled administration overwhelm the Supreme Court and change America forever – will free speech die – will gun rights die – you can bet on it!!

    Vote for – the new Hitler – the new Stalin – Trump 2020!

  87. Druid says:
    @Paw

    Listen arse, your problem is not moslems. They’re your victims. The talmudists who own you are your problem. Still don’t get it, despite your talking!

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  88. Jake says:

    The American Left is egging itself toward a bloody revolution. It has been going on, in fits and starts with pauses due to various political issues, since at least the leftist take over of the academy that then witnessed the Reagan election and became furious. Even before the Rodney King resistance to arrest, I heard a group of professors and their PhD students have some fun laughing about the need to use force to teach the white trash that its hatreds and prejudices had been eclipsed by history.

    The American Left means to take total control, ending any opposition, and to do so with as much slaughter as possible. The most eye-opening thing I ever heard nice professors joke around about occurred at an academic conference as Clinton was gearing up for re-election. At any earlier session, I had heard professors teaching at ‘conservative’ church related schools instruct seekers of professorial jobs at such institutions how to fudge the truth and get the job even when you are an atheist or, as one women giggled, a lesbian Wiccan.

    That was child’s play to the group that rather matter of factly discussed how they felt that the fall of the USSR had come about because Stalin had failed to realize the threat that was posed, and always would be posed, by the mass of ethically Slavic peoples who had retained aspects of pre-Revolution conservative traits. It would have been far better for progress, a professor said, if an actual Holodomor had visited upon them as soon as the USSR got the bomb.

    When academic and other leftists feel they are fully safe among only their own kind, they tell what they really believe and mean.

  89. Jake says:
    @DESERT FOX

    And that means that Jews controlled England back to the days of archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell.

    There is indispensable meaning in that for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  90. @peterAUS

    Excellent exchange between peterAUS and WorkingClass! Priceless: Become that leader – nice, not so nice, and really not so nice

    I’d like to add the following, especially important for suburban types as we approach the 2020 elections…

    Stock up on 30+ days of food, water, medical trauma supplies, AM/SW receiver, vhf/uhf portable transceiver, Duracell batteries, etc.

    Let`s not forget Radio Club:

    Radio club is for unlicensed amateurs unfamiliar with radios and electronics. “Let’s Explore Radio Communications! Licensing and electronics knowledge not required! Our goal is to learn how to communicate the old fashion way – wirelessly, inexpensively, without a router, just in case we lose the grid for a few days due to a natural disaster!”

    Left unstated “Or civil unrest.”

    Theoretically, Radio Club contains an outer and inner circle. The latter is vetted.

    Meet in a public venue, if possible. Make a suggestion or two, if asked, but never tell them about your preps.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  91. m___ says:
    @peterAUS

    More stress, parallel loyalties, adopting the Jew mindset, the middle classes being core players. True arguments.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  92. Deplorables are a very similar status of peasant as the Kulaks were, and will suffer the same fate if we cannot escape this evil Bolshevik ideological system.

  93. The Far Left is projecting. Concentration camps are what they want to do to us.

  94. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    You’ve touched some interesting issues.

    I guess the overall feel is from the “Prepper” (sub)culture. Agree it’s the fundamental building block; the start of the development if you will. As basic training for a trooper; having a good battle group IS based on that but it does require a LOT of work “up”.

    It’s obvious that the group called “Deplorables” is diverse (understatement). At this stage most of them don’t even know what the true problem is, let alone a solution. That’s on “mindset” level.

    On practical level one element comes to fore : “atomized”.
    Let’s put it this way: a top S.A.S. guy, with his full kit, with a month preparation, wouldn’t last for more than 48 hours against an average small town police force, if holed up.
    Now….two such guys, working together will, IMHO. Probably 72 hours.
    10 such guys…I have a feeling they’d wipe out that (small town) police force in such scenario.
    Etc.

    Here is an anecdote:
    A couple of years ago I witnessed a car accident in an average, say, working class/lower middle class neighborhood. ALL members of minorities came out to see what’s happening. Not ONE White person did the same. Make of that what you will.

    BTW, that “Radio club”, yes. Keyword “electronics”, both digital and analog. Gadgets making. Etc.
    How about “shooting club”? Or “self-defense” club? Etc.
    Not even clubs; just a couple of friends/associates/acquaintances training, socializing, together? Call it a “group”.
    “Reading group”? “Writing group” too. Endless possibilities.

    As the outside pressure, inevitably, increases, I get the feeling we’ll see such (informal/unofficial) clubs, groups, coming up.

    Coming together is the strategy. Getting rid of “atomized”.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  95. peterAUS says:
    @m___

    More stress, parallel loyalties, adopting the Jew mindset, the middle classes being core players. True arguments.

    More stress:

    A Major, from West Point through all the “ticks”, high flyer. Just about to get promoted and given command of his coveted Battalion. And then, just one complaint from (endless) list of possibilities and his career is virtually over. All those years of hard work….gone.
    Or a senior NCO. Or an agent/employee of any of those “acronym” agencies.

    parallel loyalties:

    A Colonel aware of the above. Or any of those from “acronym” agencies.

    ..adopting the Jew mindset..

    The Colonel from above and a couple of guys on the same wavelength. Or those “acronyms”.

    … the middle classes being core players.

    And aware of The Game. “You can get fired/destroyed on a whim just because of who you are. Even if you play it perfectly won’t matter much.”

    Hehe…all this “education/informing/blah..blah” doesn’t work. I mean, if it did we wouldn’t be posting here. Doesn’t matter what we do.
    What matters is what “they” do. “Progtards” in particular. More they push, do, better it’s going to be. More people will be pushed, forced, on our side. They and their increasingly crazy policies are best recruiting tool.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  96. renfro says:
    @peterAUS

    My impression is that people from your side like to bring that up to discourage the opposition. Works for majority, for sure. For those “in the know” it’s……just funny.
    I feel you’d like to discuss that here. We can’t and shouldn’t. I’ll tell you just this: 600 men/women, with bolt action rifles/shotguns, with PROPER mindset, in PROPER environment, taking PROPER steps (THIS!) , could make military “moving them down in second” impossible. Not even in a month.

    First, I don’t have a side because I don’t like either side….imo they are both idiots.
    Whatever you think the PROPER steps are…and no doubt you are thinking guerrilla warfare….it still wont work……you would create mess for a while and if the PTB didnt dispense with you off the bat then you would be starved out.

    If you are serious then take a lesson from Castro and other successful revolutions and take over the air waves first so you can control what the populace hears…..otherwise you will just be a large band of terrorist and they will be against you.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  97. Paw says:
    @DESERT FOX

    But He cared after all and selected , The very and most reliable in history , the Germans Marionets….They never fail to fight and die for interests those selected Few…
    They are excellent servants all the time..If British were placed not behind the Channel , they would be part of Germany , long time ago…

  98. Paw says:
    @animalogic

    Like terrorist killers before in Australia, this one was in the/fake/ police fail and was “watched”.
    Like about 90% of all terrorist fanatics. Everywhere..
    To Animalogic . I am sorry, there were not enough victims.. How many Victims is necessary ,so
    terrorist is permitted and qualify to be called the terrorist..? Not sure now..
    Is any prostitute somehow ,less human ?

  99. Poncho says:
    @renfro

    Strategy and Tactics isn’t your thing.

    Professionals talk logistics.

    Think about what goes in to keeping the Warmachine operational on a daily basis.

    That said, there aren’t enough units available to remotely control and “pacify,” the large population centers of just the States east of the Mississippi, even if that’s all you wanted to do. This doesn’t even remotely cover the rural areas.

    Drones? With what fuel? Think those operators are going to be so keen to fly when they find a letter on their front door one morning with an observation on how it’d be a shame if something happened to her family because of what he was doing?

    The upside of the war for profit over the last two decades is that it got a lot of folks some real good experience in insurgencies. And they ain’t happy.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @renfro
    , @PetrOldSack
  100. peterAUS says:
    @renfro

    ….no doubt you are thinking guerrilla warfare…

    No I do not.

    ….take over the air waves first…

    I’d take something else first. Then something else second. And then something else third. And then, maybe, the “air waves”.

    …you will just be a large band of terrorist and they will be against you…

    Yes. Terrible, a? Being called a terrorist. We have to be careful as to how our enemies call us. Hahahaha……oh my.
    You concerned about treatment if/when captured? That works both ways. The outcome depends on several things. Final success first and foremost.
    Castro, a? Oh my….the obligatory fascination with that stuff.
    How about:
    Irgun; Umkhonto we Sizwe; IRA/PIRA; KLA.
    Or (smart) combination of all of those.
    How about Slovenes in ’91 in Yugoslavia? How about people in Donbass in Ukraine?
    How about putting together a custom combination of all those above? And more. 2nd Amendment, State/County laws, National Guard, stuff like that.

    It’s O.K.
    Let’s skip that topic here for now because you are correct in one thing: alt-right has no people capable of that. General Staff College material. You’ve seen any of such types on “alt-whatever” side? I haven’t. Yet.

    I suggest, at this stage, focusing on simply putting together a little group of people interested in certain topics. From marksmanship to reading/writing history/fiction. Self defense. Home protection. Hunting. Hiking. Reenactment.
    Small, private groups pursuing……simple hobbies. Under the radar, of course. No Facebook bragging…hahahaha.
    Makes sense?

  101. Paw says:
    @niteranger

    The present strategy is to keep US Army and NATO to chase some militants in Syria and Afganistan with no end , while the Occupation of USA and EU by the barbarians , could start and continue..
    And in the meantime play the propaganda games, to fog it..Was Epstein part of the “game” too ?
    “The deadly knife” of the White Supremacism /actually desperate defense/, aims to the heart of people every day..

  102. renfro says:
    @Poncho

    Strategy and Tactics isn’t your thing.

    Professionals talk logistics.

    Really?…well maybe not. But I know people whose ‘thing’ it is so I listen to them.

    But go ahead and try it….we’ll watch.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  103. @JDawg99

    …rightfully- “criticizing peoples of color”:…

  104. @Twodees Partain

    The hypocrisy is really rank these days.

    So true. And Shepherd Smith et al, are all part of this immense and toxic smoke screen.

    In this rapidly changing era in US history, the rise of White identity and White solidarity should be accepted as a Constitutional right by all, and embraced by white Americans who value white continuity. This objective is unreasonable.

    If Black Americans and Jewish Americans and Hispanic Americans are different and distinct communities, then aren’t the whites who live beside them also distinct?

    If we are to accept ‘minority’ ethnic/racial/cultural differences (from us), then don’t they have a similar obligation ro recognize ours?

    Of course they do!

    This quid-pro-quo is entirely sensible, especially considering the cultural challenges ahead for America’s founding stock. Racial advocacy cannot be a one-way street.

    In the meantime, don’t let the insincere opposition get us hung up on the allegedly inherent evils of ‘White nationalism’. The very term is propagandistic. Besides, race and nationhood are two peas in a healthy national pod. So don’t take the bait. Let’s just concentrate on winning back the same rights (and privileges) as our adversaries.

    Whites should be content to preserve their distinct communities, too. This is normal and natural. European-derived peoples must be allowed to prosper and persevere in the civilizations they created. To do otherwise is racial suicide.

    Is race-based nationalism ‘evil’?

    No.

    There should be mutual recognition and mutual respect between all peoples. And good borders.

    Why not ask the Chinese, the Japanese, and the Israelis about this.

    Actually, don’t ask them. Words are often meant to deceive. Just observe what they do. That tells us all we need to know.

    None of the self-interested, forward-looking countries above are allowing waves of under-achieving outsiders to transform their cultures. Never! And they never will. America must do the same.

    Great nations take their national destinies and long-term genetic interests seriously.

    It is also a fact that commonality–not ‘diversity’–makes for strong and unified country. This especially applies to advanced, orderly and prosperous White nations. So why are we giving away the store?

    The ‘diversity’ meme, it turns out, is an ideological Trojan Horse.

    The actual impact of increased racial and ethnic ‘diversity’ in America, is increasing opposition to the exercise Free Speech, Free Assembly, and Free Association. This is a very serious matter. The trends are not good

    Rising diversity has also given rise to inchoate but broad-based anti-White sentiment and anti-White activism. As a nation, we are rapidly becoming unglued. European-derived peoples (white men in particular) are the new target.

    As for ‘white nationalism’. this ADL-orchestrated boogeyman translates merely into renewed white cohesion. Nothing more. It’s therefore no big deal.

    These are qualities that White Americans need to nurture and renew–not disdain or express shame about.

    After all, other races, ethnicities and nationalities openly and proudly express unity and solidarity inside modern America. Why can’t we?

    Are we to believe that white’s don’t deserve equal rights and equal treatment under law?

    No f****** way.

    Consider these words:

    Jewish cohesion.

    Jewish solidarity.

    Jewish nationalism (Zionism).

    All good. No shame. No guilt.

    Jewish nationalism (Israel) is treated in Washington (and Hollywood) as if it’s a sacred, core American value–despite the fact that it’s race-centered and Jews constitute but a tiny minority here.

    What’s going on here?

    Plus, Jews already have their own very exclusive country for God’s sake (which Americans subsidize unconditionally.)

    Isn’t that enough?

    No. Whites must surrender Europe and North America.

    This (((undeclared movement))) explains why white Christian Americans–our nation’s founding majority– are routinely depicted in film, tv and literature as Nazi subversives and potential enemies of The People. This is pure, modern politically-correct drivel.

    If white Americans are to survive as a group (like any of the other ‘groups’ in America who seek their own preservation and aggrandizement) then white identity–not White self-loathing–is vital and legitimate. And it needn’t spell bloodshed.

    There is the phenomena of 1) pervasive Black solidarity (and black criminality), 2) rising POC identity, 3) expanding LGBTQ advocacy, 4) rising Hispanic unity (and the bilingual movement within the US) as well as 5) the granddaddy of all entrenched, extra-national movements: Jewish Nationalism (Zionism) and Jewish identity.

    The rise of exclusive racial and sexual and ethnic agendas inside the civilization created by European-derived peoples pose real challenges to America’s core demographic. There is a competition underway. Are we just supposed to ignore it?

    The shallow-thinking hypocrites who endorse non-white solidarity inside the US (while fulminating against America;s founding white core) must be forced to drink their own Cool-aid. Double-standards will not stand and cannot stand.

    These phonies must either renounce all identity politics or get out or the way and allow Whites to embrace theirs.

    Whites deserve Equal Rights as well as Equal Treatment Under Law. No more. No less.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  105. @peterAUS

    Completely agree.

    There is a preliminary role for outliers, somehow spit out of the conventional system, or never given opportunity, a ream of other sane reasons, that are willing to place a bet against the odds. The consumer masses, as they are now, should be used first and attributed later. Putting headless masses of people indiscriminately into comprehension mode is counter productive, amounts to your …procrastination. Simple, very simple suggestions, emotional logos and shouts, that is what the internet as a one to the many tool is good for. From Jordan Peterson to the n´th girl masturbating on camera. Organizational and deep thinking is a secured environment only task.

    To organize there must be a severe level of stealth. There is no ready tool at hand to unite, sort and organize what could be called and is mentioned in these threads as “Shadow Government´´ but inside vetted pockets. More chaotic and depraved consumer environments would definitely help.

    The “mafias´´ of the romantic imagination and Hollywood fabrication converted into legalized organizations, Wall Street, the Public Sector, the XXX agencies. Overtaking (such as elections), thus is meaningless. Ruthless, organized, ethical, meritocratic, a blend of ISIS, CIA, and Bolshevik, international, save-havens, directed violence, civil disobedience are key words. Considering all divides of race, ethnicity, culture, territory, energy, classes, historical models should be handled cautiously and discriminately. There is still some solid charting to be done. In all quality arguments only can beat quantity shouting.

    The enemy is global. The US should be a minimal local temporarily.

    No power players in the conventional channels should be allowed into any efficient alternative organization, there should be no way back, or versing between sides. The skaters and surfers of the intellectual world, the politicians, judiciary, any influencers would be basket fill first.

    Meta data organizations that are decided by few against interests of the shadow governors must be appropriated as a priority. Logistics as such are a major issue. Parallel loyalties and allowing for infiltration are a nasty business, hence suicide or not, a dead Epstein. Cooking the books situations, hard assets, must be grabbed. Lawful and ethical should again represent no longer a contradiction in the conceptional phase.

    Nothing new. Books are filled on the subject, probably key is charismatic leaders of local, hardened nuggets, and the use as a sledge hammer of mass human as done by all other competing propositions.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  106. @Poncho

    Indeed.

    They all go home at (some) nights somewhere. Parallel loyalties can be forced. Again readily observable in outer border situations as Afghanistan, Irak, Syria, Lybia…. At that level, all it takes is balls to cause major paradigm shifts.

    The Basques, and more sophisticated IRA, are great Euro examples, to scale in the imaginary world.

    Today gives the impression of creating a real pain video game. What happened to the regular bumper at suggesting solutions. The lead article was as dull as always.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  107. bro3886 says:
    @follyofwar

    August 19th. If you subtract the 1 from the 9 you get 8, and if you double that you get 88. You see, you see – Carlson is literally Hitler. His choice of vacation dates is dog-whistling white racists.

    As for Fox, the rats are abandoning the ship their gnawing helped sink. You see this all over, David French and National Review, Max Boot, Joe Scarborough, and many other members of the Conservative/Republican establishment are repositioning themselves. as they long have, in an attempt to stay useful to the coming one party state. Unfortunately for them, that state won’t really need them to perform their traditional role of keeping the white population down during its dispossession, that dispossession is nearing completion. The telemarketing scheme of “conservatism” is losing its market, and its white marks will soon be facing the reality of its bamboozling.

    • LOL: follyofwar
  108. “If any of us is still giving his money to Fox News Corp.”

    The problem for fox news is their history. They fully supported the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan . They have further supported destabilizing the region further. Now if they actually believed that these endeavours necessary for the country from a ideological or political perspective, I could understand it. But in my view their perspective is not really conservative, certainly not pinned to any theological position in spite their links to support Israel. There is a sense that they are certainly supportive of whiteness or “conservativeness”, but I am not sure it’s pinned to anything beyond class. In other words, they are not deplorables but are more than willing to pander to those of is who might be considered so. They are an international media conglomerate — their advertising dollars are not as linked to US corporations as they once were, if ever that was the case. I remember their initial response to the president’s campaign — they were openly antagonistic.

    This president has forgotten those of us that stood by him, despite his performances that caused us to cringe. He doesn’t get that he represented an agenda and that agenda is why we voted for him. We may appreciated his outspokeness, but that was a feature not policy agenda.

    The US first in all things and all ways, except one — adherence to an ethos of Christ and nothing about that relationship demands we have open borders, accept a single immigrant legal or otherwise and nothing in that belief suggests we sacrifice US citizens to any foreign state or their demands legal or otherwise. And its time to stop importing foreign instructors who are going to insert themselves into the development of the US by distorting our history —

    And for good grief,

    drop the jazz hands.

    Note: the president of the US should never have been supportive of any policy by any state to bar any US legislature from a policy envoy, simply because they disagree on policy. Bad form. I am light years from the liberal agenda —- but US first means, we defend our citizens against the sensibilities of foreign states in such circumstances — just as those states do for their own.

    —————————————–

    “There is the phenomena of 1) pervasive Black solidarity”

    Well, it was unwise to have kept them out when they wanted in. And by the historical accounting of elections — black solidarity is far less a reality than white solidarity even to this day.

  109. And it would be trite not to acknowledge that for whites “white supremacy” might be a non-issue, but for blacks given our history, they would readily have some internal critical response and look sideways ways anyone who said it neither existed or was a nonissue.

    History is on their side.

  110. @mark green

    Very well stated, Mark. When examined in an unhurried and objective light, those conclusions should be very easy for anyone of any race or nationality to understand and accept.

    They are unacceptable only to someone who is pushing a radical agenda. If that case can be made clearly, it’ll go a long way toward exposing the agenda for what it is.

  111. @Johnny Walker Read

    That article is very clearly presented. It’s an informative read. Thanks for posting it.

  112. @RadicalCenter

    True. the way I see it is; if you watch TV, then you’re watching too much TV.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  113. peterAUS says:
    @renfro

    Really?…well maybe not. But I know people whose ‘thing’ it is so I listen to them.

    But go ahead and try it….we’ll watch.

    Let’s assume, for a moment, that your interest is genuine. More importantly, some other people, genuine, could be reading this.

    You cannot talk about the details of such “things” here. A smart person is well advised NOT to talk about those things with anybody he/she doesn’t trust with his/her life. If I have to explain this no point on further blabbing here.
    And, without details, there is no proper debate.

    People whose agenda IS to discourage any thought about “white nationalism” and “secession” always bring this topic up. Always. And they always “win” that debate because the other side simply can not talk about it.

    The chat always follows the same pattern. The moment comes fast where any furtner talk is simply dumb for several reasons.
    One of them is, actually, online training of those White Nationalists don’t like at all. To be clear: how to train Islamists to confront US/Western forces in Europe/Middle East.
    The next is, well……..you want to talk about that topic executed on US soil? With all those laws around? You really think that you, we, have freedom of speech? C’mon.

    Doesn’t work that way.
    Which does point, in genuine cases that is, to the point you made/have. “Deplorables” aren’t very…how to put it…capable.

    As I said before, any combat-experienced Colonel, combat arms, can tutor you in such topic in one day. More importantly, smart (did I say smart?) and dilligent person can self-educate, with ease, today. In essence, simply do own officer education instead of going to Annapolis/West Point/whatever.

    You wanna try? Study online manuals for: MP Batallion in security operations; M.O.U.T.Start with a squad, finish with a platoon. Imagine you are a trooper, then a fireteam leader, then squad leader, and then platoon leader.
    Read real-life examples from ’89 to today. Yes, including Syria and Ukraine.
    How about “graduation work”? Make your own “material” for your own county. See how it goes…..
    Find a guy you TRUST. Do it together.Play wargames.

    I know, too much of hard work. Besides..hahehe….takes time from barbecues, ball games, and social media. TV too. All those shows and blockbusters to miss. No fucking way, a?

    Makes sense?

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  114. peterAUS says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Good comment.
    As for

    ….probably key is charismatic leaders of local, hardened nuggets…

    yes, at one side. The other side is a mass of people who are angry and/or scared.
    We are getting there. “Progs” are doing their best to help. Will accelerate for sure.

  115. peterAUS says:
    @PetrOldSack

    The Basques, and more sophisticated IRA, are great Euro examples, to scale in the imaginary world.

    For the startup, maybe.
    The best examples (“nation” and “own territory”) are Slovenes, Croats and Muslims, in that order, from (former) Yugoslavia. You’d really wish to do it Slovene way. Muslim option would be really costly.

    Of course, no example is perfect. A smart and experienced team can take all those examples and implement a “local” solution, with ease. No such people, yet, on “our” side. I think they’ll start popping up soon.

  116. @peterAUS

    The key word is organisation. Organising at local community level to defend, promote, and advance their own interests would be a start. Whites are quite good at organising collectively but so far have been doing it for reasons other than ensuring their own collective preservation. The more advanced stuff will follow naturally if and when required but first of all people have to feel free to talk openly about their own predicament. Maybe in some sections of the multicultural society that may not be possible but in others it could be without fear of censure and sanction.

    It’s hard to get the idea of what is the true mood of white people in US from reading the MSM or alternative websites such as this. Here we get reports from the most pessimistic to the most optimistic but they don’t offer evidence on what they base their assessment other than what they read in the media or from their own circle of friends, relatives and acquaintances.

  117. peterAUS says:

    The key word is organisation. Organising at local community level to defend, promote, and advance their own interests would be a start.

    Yes.
    I’d start at an even lower level: friends/acquaintances/associates/whatever. Call it a “group”. 2-4 families with some individuals. I see a lot of such groups when hiking, for example. The same principle. And keep it private. I mean it.

    Whites are quite good at organising collectively but so far have been doing it for reasons other than ensuring their own collective preservation.

    Yep. As…hehe….travel, for example.

    The more advanced stuff will follow naturally if and when required but first of all people have to feel free to talk openly about their own predicament. Maybe in some sections of the multicultural society that may not be possible but in others it could be without fear of censure and sanction.

    Yes. In that “group”. You think that Pakis, at your place, really say in public what they say when meeting among themselves? Etc. Same principle.
    What awakened Whites REALLY need to get in their heads: they/we are operating behind enemy lines. We are like dissidents over the Iron Curtain at the time. Simple as that.

    It’s hard to get the idea of what is the true mood of white people in US from reading the MSM or alternative websites such as this. Here we get reports from the most pessimistic to the most optimistic but they don’t offer evidence on what they base their assessment other than what they read in the media or from their own circle of friends, relatives and acquaintances.

    Agree. BTW, the mood of, say, 30 % people in flyover states. That’s all which matters.
    My feeling: there is something brewing/boiling there. It could go anywhere. A tricky and dangerous thing.
    Interesting times.

  118. Paul C. says:
    @animalogic

    Can you provide examples of the goy oligarchs?

  119. Will says:
    @Svevlad

    Indeed. Lenin’s question. When the fight is on my money won’t be on the Jews and their lackeys.

  120. Will says:
    @peterAUS

    If you’re searching for solutions and models to replace the existing insanity, checkout Abbeville Institute, particularly YT videos by Donald Livingston, Kirkpatrick Sale, and Marshall DeRosa. They address secession better than any I know as well as issues of human scale, nullification, decentralization, etc.

    Also, Brother Nathanael mentioned as a solution in one of his videos brining the (((media))) under control by requiring approval from a majority of citizens before its contract could be renewed.

    @WorkingClass

  121. Will says:
    @peterAUS

    No (White initiated) secession can happen now. Core FBI/the rest of those outfits, and more importantly, armed forces, are loyal to the central government. And, key personnel there are White.
    White Colonel will execute the order. White Leutenant too. His senior NCOs too.
    Or FBI guys.

    Texas was 2 votes shy a few years back from a secession referendum and the Texas Nationalist movement continues to grow.. Somewhere between 300-400K people, perhaps more since I last looked.

    Alabama & Missouri challenges on abortion & Tennessee/Wyoming nullifications of anti-2A legislation are but harbingers of more nullification and secession coming.

    The notion of the armed forces being loyal to the US government against their own people is not credible.

  122. Trying to organize whites politically along explicitly racial lines has failed in America for over a century and a half now, from the first Klan in the 1860s, to its revival in the early decades of the 1900s, through Rockwell and Pierce, and lately with the morons who actually thought voting for Trump was going to change things. All this time, the only gradual shifts have been in an ever more leftist, anti-racist direction, which is now ripening into a virulent anti-whitism.

    A large part of the reason whites resist becoming explicitly racist is because people generally don’t want to know things that cause them discomfort by challenging their worldview, and race neutrality has been long established as the officially sanctioned worldview by law and custom in American culture at large. This resistance to change is called cognitive dissonance and it’s very painful for most people. No doubt an important source of this is Christianity’s influence on whites, and the low value it puts on the things of this world. The influence has been profound, affecting even those who are not religious. Just look at the way Christians defend their faith-based worldview as important for white people to retain, despite the fact that it has completely failed to preserve the white race. It failed to preserve the Confederacy. It has failed in contemporary America and Europe. It again failed abjectly in Russia and South Africa. It even failed in NS Germany, where the leadership, at least, was aware of its defects and tried, rather ineffectually as it turned out, to counteract them. Yet, mysteriously, this record of failure doesn’t matter to Christians. In fact, they cite all of those failures as instances of glorious success! The victors in most of those struggles were also Christians, the vast majority white Christians who fought like demons for a raceless worldview. Christians have a long history of killing their Christian opponents. That’s how they have usually dealt with heresy. In this way racelessness has become the dominant worldview, and except for a few extreme outliers like the people who frequent this forum, nobody wants to see that challenged. The very premise that race is insignificant makes it a religion tailor made for a multiracial empire, and that’s no accident. There are practical, as well as spiritual considerations that make it an attractive doctrine.

    Using it, the United States has become the center of a technological empire that now spans the globe. Denying the importance of race is essential if you want to expand the boundaries of your empire to include the whole world, and the government of the United States was quite consciously based on the Roman model, which attempted to do just that. In fact, both the Greeks and the Romans interbred with the peoples they conquered, and did so as a conscious strategy to tie their citizens together and keep things running smoothly. One big difference today is that modern transportation networks have quickened the pace of mixing races and as a result, accelerated the processes of racial and cultural destruction. A level of mixing that used to take centuries now can be accomplished in a few decades. Yet because the technological system has brought such prosperity to whites, and because it now requires the resources of the entire planet to keep running at optimum efficiency, other nations, seeing this, want to come to terms with it and acquire such prosperity themselves. Its gravitational attraction is such that even nations that the West hasn’t vanquished by force of arms end up by willingly submitting to it. E.g., China, Russia, and Vietnam all have opposed the West, but have been eager to join and further the technological system. Thus, the inertia of the system itself runs towards favoring the dissolution of national boundaries, the flow of populations between continents, the standardization of laws and regulations over whole regions instead of individual nations, and so forth. It seems clear that sooner or later, a unified world government will be established, and even that it must be in order to adequately address problems generated by the technological system itself. Global problems such as climate change from human activity, pollution, overpopulation, species extinction, and international terrorism are most efficiently approached in a uniform and consistent way, and the most straightforward solution is a global government. The culmination of this process would naturally spell the end of discrete races in fairly short order, on an evolutionary timescale, with whites earliest affected because they are at the center of the system and already only a very small part of the world’s population. A one-world government would almost certainly mean the extinction of the white race as it currently exists. It’s clear that in order for this outcome to be avoided, the entire system would have to permanently crash, or be made to crash.

  123. peterAUS says:

    Good comments. Yes, I’ve been aware of the stuff in the links you pointed to.
    It is quite positive, of course.

    There is a “but” though.

    Is there a timetable there? Say, “the objective of our movement is to achieve the independence from the Washington D.C. in 5 years”.
    If not, well…….

  124. @peterAUS

    Oh yes, we think alike. Totally on board with deep-sixing “atomized” and other self-destructive lolbertarian thinking.

    Suburban prepping is one of my interests.

    My favorite keywords are: electronics, RC model aircraft, shooting, archery, and (drum roll) medium-high power rocketry.

    Informal association (or group), preferably with long-term friends and family. Draw in their “significant others” and friends. Gotta have interesting things for the women to do. Problem is, friends and family are somewhat scattered. One might be 3 miles out, the other 7 miles, etc.

    What I have in mind, with Radio Club, is an association within one’s suburban neighborhood. From next door and across the street up to 1/2 mile away. I’ll utilize this for marketing the initial greetin’ and eatin’:

    https://nextdoor.com/login/

    I’ll steer the club. Get them into using a shortwave receiver:

    https://countycomm.com/collections/radio/products/countycomm-gp-5-ssb-general-purpose-radio

    and communicating on MURs/FRS/GRMS frequencies using a Yaesu FT-70 with a MARS/CAP modification:

    https://www.gigaparts.com/yaesu-ft-70dr.html?msclkid=c3bfcf4fc42c1f37741e921730941e97&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=*Yaesu%20-%20JumpFly&utm_term=yaesu%20ft%2070&utm_content=FT-70DR

    Most problems folks have with VHF/UHF comms are due to inadequate antennas and built up areas. The solution, for most, is simple and relatively inexpensive. Nothing that four EMT conduits (1.5″, 1.25″, 1″, 0.75″), 50′ of RG8 coaxial cable, an SO-239 connector, brackets, u-bolts, and 10 awg copper 1/4 wave radiator and radials couldn’t handle.

    Other things are introduced slowly and only after vetting.

    Anyway, you get the drift.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
    , @peterAUS
  125. @Oldtradesman

    Oops! 50′ of RG58 coaxial cable

  126. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Very good comment.

    Not quite sure in the power of the “global” project though. It, looks like it, rests on the good will/acceptance of the white middle class in the West. That will/acceptance appears to be weakening.

    • Agree: mark green
  127. @sally

    The problem is our leaders.

    No, the problem is that the concept of leaders exists. I don’t need a leader, thank you. I just want to be left alone.

    The system is rigged to NEVER produce a positive result for the average person. Elect either fool A or fool B; that’s the choice. The people that vote are dumb enough to believe they have a say in how government operates and therefore should be excluded from voting due to lack of intelligence. A “Catch 22” situation.

    Is there really any difference between the Republican big spenders or the Democrat big spenders; between the Democrat war mongers or the Republican version; etc?

    Candidates are selected by the parties that are controlled by the money powers. A vote for either side is a wasted effort as either candidate has already been approved by TPTB – the “Deep State”.

    On election day, people should go to the center of town and simply stand still and allow the curiosity of others to eventually ask them what they’re doing. The reply should be that they are protesting a rigged system and invite others to join them peacefully. If this protest caused thousands of people to just stand around and reduced the number of votes cast to some ridiculously low margin, then the fraud of democratic elections might just awaken the somnolent masses.

    When the contest is between people that vote and corporations that purchase legislators, the people always lose. Voting is a waste of time while corporations are allowed to lobby and engage in election activities. The money available to corporations gives them an unfair advantage that essentially allows them to purchase elections. What a system!

    Ask the average (100 IQ) American if corporations should pay taxes and they will resoundingly respond with ‘yes’ and ‘hell yes’. What they fail to realize is that corporate taxation allows them to have a voice in how the country is run. Boobus Americanus also fails to connect the dots that no corporation actually pays a tax; they collect taxes from their customers and pass them on to the authorities. Any tax a corporation ‘pays’ is simply offset by an increase in the price the people pay for their product or service.

    Only real human beings actually pay taxes. Corporations are a convenient vehicle for gov’t to hide the actual amount of theft, euphemistically known as taxes, absconded from the citizenry. If corporations had a zero tax liability, gov’t would have to get their funds directly from the people and that would be a wake up moment for voters.

  128. peterAUS: “Not quite sure in the power of the “global” project though. It, looks like it, rests on the good will/acceptance of the white middle class in the West. That will/acceptance appears to be weakening.”

    Politics follow technology, and the trend is inexorably towards a one-world government. This is quite apparent if you look at the changes technological “advances” have wrought through time. E.g., how close was a one-world government in 100AD? Not close at all. Most areas barely even had a government, and even the extent of the world itself was unknown. How about 1000AD? Incrementally closer, but still not close at all. Tribes had begun to coalesce into nations. A bit more was known about nature, and other regions of the globe, but one-world government wasn’t even a glimmer in anyone’s eye. 1600AD? Starting to get rolling now. The New World has been discovered, and the first settlements and colonies established. The Industrial Revolution will shortly start. Still though, bringing the entire world under one government would have seemed a mad dream. 1900AD? People began to dream of it in earnest. “Workers of the world, unite!” But not quite technologically feasible then, nor necessary yet. 2000AD? Becoming entirely feasible, and easier to bring off as racial and cultural differences erode. Necessary, too, since there is no other efficient way to deal with global problems caused by the system itself. Politics are changing, the West each day becoming more socialistic, the East more capitalistic, trending toward one system worldwide. Re-engineering mankind (“human capital”) is well underway. Technological enslavement is on the horizon, if not already here. In a few decades everyone will probably be chipped, networked into the internet.

    “In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
    – Strobe Talbot, (20 July 1992), in “America Abroad: The Birth of the Global Nation”

    The middle class? I think there’s every reason to expect they’ll just go with the flow like they’ve always done. To oppose the system is to oppose “Progress”; oppose their own prosperity. It won’t happen.

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  129. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Much of what you write is correct. I am not certain, however, that Christianity was always a “millstone about our necks.” It would take some convincing for me to believe that the Founders, Lincoln and his Union soldiers, and proponents of the Immigration Act of 1924 believed in racial equality. Perhaps these men followed a Germanicized Christianity? Perhaps the inherent contradictions of GC were many, but simply ignored for 1,945 years? Perhaps modern Christianity is more consistent than GC? I don’t know. Regardless, something changed after WW2. Perhaps the change was due to the National Council of Churches (1950), Vatican 2 (1962-65), and other interested parties?

    What I know is modern Christian morality (What Would Jesus Do?) is a reflection of the Left’s Platinum Rule: Do unto others as they would have you do. The all important concept of reciprocity is neither required or expected. WWJD? combined with “rendering unto Caesar his due” is the philosophy of a willing slave. The willing slave strives for a comfortable niche in life and a peaceful, painless death. This non-reciprocating morality (The Platinum Rule/WWJD?) is deadly.

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  130. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Suburban prepping is one of my interests.

    My favorite keywords are: electronics, RC model aircraft, shooting, archery, and (drum roll) medium-high power rocketry.

    Informal association (or group), preferably with long-term friends and family. Draw in their “significant others” and friends.

    Nice.
    “Tech” part in between saved for future reference.

    Other things are introduced slowly and only after vetting.

    Anyway, you get the drift.

    I do.

    Reminds me, a bit, of the setups White farmers in South Africa have, as we speak.Makes sense.

    I believe you are on the right track.
    Much appreciated.

  131. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Well, you do have a point there, but, I still don’t think it’s simply that clear cut. Humans are finicky creatures. It’s all good with that technology, material wealth etc, BUT, there is more to life than that.
    Anyway, that’s not exactly my angle.
    My angle is simple: THAT setup makes me a target. A guy, anon, recently posted, IMHO, great comment here about the future of a White man in that setup. If he isn’t happy with that projected, planned future and he is the backbone of it……….well…I just don’t see that future coming up. Not really.
    Save, perhaps

    Re-engineering mankind (“human capital”) is well underway

    by changing the very nature of Man. Well……not quite sure it will work either.

    As for “technological enslavement”, no, not really. I’ve worked in “tech” after leaving the military (hehe…worked a bit with the very similar tech there too…..or so I say). Tell you what: that “tech” isn’t really what majority of people think. Neither sophisticated nor powerful. Especially after the fall of the Wall; cost-cutting, outsourcing, always going for the lowest bidder etc.

    The middle class? I think there’s every reason to expect they’ll just go with the flow like they’ve always done. To oppose the system is to oppose “Progress”; oppose their own prosperity. It won’t happen.

    That is where we disagree. WHITE middle class in the West I mean. The only which matters in this game. They are the backbone of the projected future. I personally know people who, should they walk off the job NOW, would bring a LOT of misery down on the citizens around here.
    We do see the White middle class getting uncomfortable. They still believe they can do something through the system. Let’s wait and see what happens when they, rather soon, realize it can’t happen.

  132. Wait. James Alan Fox: There Is No Evidence of an ‘Epidemic of Mass Shootings’

    The nation’s leading scholar of mass shootings explains how media coverage of horrific events such as El Paso and Dayton stoke unwarranted fear and anxiety.

  133. Adûnâi says:
    @Oldtradesman

    The Immigration Act of 1924 was not racist in the slightest. It did not touch Mestizo immigration at all. It only reduced southern and eastern European immigration without banning it completely. And it did not prefer Anglos or Germans on the basis of their race but simply because they had constituted a larger percentage of foreign-born Americans in 1890 than others. I’m not sure, but Swedes might have been as discriminated against as Jews in this context.

    If the Founding Fathers had been truly racist, they would not have allowed any immigration at all. Why would they have? What was the reason to hurry? Land is limited anyway, just make babies and kill anyone who tries to steal it. Immigration would have diluted the gene pool of the settlers, of course, it is inherently anti-racist.

    There had been a lot of bad things about Christianity before 1945 or the Industrial Revolution – 1) praying to a crucified Jew; 2) celibate priests; 3) denial of the importance of blood or eugenics (as can clearly be seen in Spanish/French colonies).

    “The all important concept of reciprocity is neither required or expected.”

    Reciprocity is a Christian lie, too. You should always strive to eliminate the opponent. Why would you ever help him not in short-term?

  134. peterAUS: “… by changing the very nature of Man. Well……not quite sure it will work either.”

    The system has already changed whites to an astonishing degree. For example, as Cochran and Harpending point out in The 10,000 Year Explosion, technological civilization has heavily selected against genes for violence and criminality in whites. The result has been to produce a mass of easily controlled sheep. Today, the average white American calmly puts up with things that would have caused riots and even revolutions in previous centuries. Most of them have never personally killed anyone, and the very thought of violence makes them queasy. Contrast ancient Rome, where one man hacking another to death with a short sword, or a condemned criminal being devoured by wild beasts was considered entertainment.

    peterAUS: “As for “technological enslavement”, no, not really. ”

    https://archive.org/download/tk-Technological-Slavery/tk-Technological-Slavery.pdf

    peterAUS: “We do see the White middle class getting uncomfortable. They still believe they can do something through the system. Let’s wait and see what happens when they, rather soon, realize it can’t happen.”

    The thing is, what’s called for isn’t a political revolution, but a revolution against the technological system itself. Anything less will not work, as it will not stop the process of globalization. Also, I think I am not alone when I say I don’t see a revolution of obese cubicle sheep as being in the cards. The atomization you mention above is a huge obstacle to overcome, particularly in the Orwellian surveillance state that’s been set up. There’s almost literally a camera on every street corner nowadays, in a nation of snitches incentivized to rat each other out. Even worse, middle class people have middle class values: prosperity, maintaining a good reputation, respect for authority, an aversion to breaking the law, etc. They’re just not the stuff from which revolutions are made.

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  135. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I hear you.

    Still, you make sweeping generalizations.

    Today, the average white American calmly puts up with things that would have caused riots and even revolutions in previous centuries. Most of them have never personally killed anyone, and the very thought of violence makes them queasy.

    Yes, a lot.
    But, at the same time, you do have Imperial armed forces where combat arms, infantry in particular, let alone SF are mostly White men.

    Re technology, well, it’s just a tool. At the moment most of those tools are manned, in the West, by White people. I don’t mind the enemy having iron sights and I have thermal. Hehe….just go for the night.
    BTW, I’ll need to continue in the next post; wrong finger move.

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  136. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    The thing is, what’s called for isn’t a political revolution, but a revolution against the technological system itself. Anything less will not work, as it will not stop the process of globalization.

    I have a feeling we are talking past each other.
    Here is the scenario: “we” go for secession. In that very piece of land, we aren’t designated targets. Simple as that. That’s my focus.

    Even worse, middle class people have middle class values: prosperity, maintaining a good reputation, respect for authority, an aversion to breaking the law, etc.

    Yes. As long as they see that they, by playing that game, can prosper.
    I believe 100 % that as soon as that illusion terminates we’ll see something else. Not very pleasant to say the least.

    They’re just not the stuff from which revolutions are made.

    Disagree, strongly.
    Disillusioned middle-class people are exactly what make “changes”. Working-class isn’t capable. They need to be lead. Upper classes love the contemporary setup.
    It’s the middle class which has the ability to make a move. They are the thinkers and leaders. Working-class and underclass simply follow.

    Hehehe……..now, that’s exactly what TPTBs know, of course. That’s why The Game is accelerating. How to make the White middle class in the West weak, by immigration, BEFORE it realizes what The Game is all about.

    I am not saying I know who’s going to win this one. Hell, maybe nobody. We do have nukes today. And some more horrible stuff you, I seem to remember, mentioned in one of the previous posts. Just recently read a fictional book about the “bug of doom” stuff. “Interesting specimens”, the book says, are in a couple of vaults in USA and Russia. Great, a?

    Realistically, what you describe, IMHO, as the most likely outcome, some Brasilian type of society, enhanced. I do feel that’s the most likely scenario, BUT, not given. Not the only one. The times are….uncertain.
    Hehe..at the end of the day we just do what we feel is best for us. Free will and such.

    Funny thought: a nice guy is just about to be smashed to the ground by “them”. He was always a nice guy. And now this. Is he thinking, in those last conscious moments: “maybe I shouldn’t have been so nice……..”.

  137. peterAUS: “Here is the scenario: “we” go for secession. In that very piece of land, we aren’t designated targets. Simple as that. That’s my focus. ”

    I seem to recall that secession was tried once before in American history, and it didn’t work out well for the secessionists. What makes you think it would be different today?

    Remember that politics is driven by technology, not the other way around. For example, without the Industrial Revolution, there’d have been no Marxism. Seen in this light, Communism was a reaction to a technological development. Likewise, the Cold War was a reaction to the existence of nuclear weapons. We can deduce from this relationship between politics and technology that if the technological system were to collapse on a global basis, secession would be easy and happen naturally, since there’d be no power left to oppose it. On the other hand, even if it could be organized politically in the current environment (very doubtful imo), trying to secede while the state is at full strength seems like a prescription for failure.

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  138. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It’s a pity the system hasn’t selected against violence and criminality among the ruling classes. I suppose they find violence and criminality unpalatable if they have to personally engage in it and prefer others to do it for them.

    Otherwise what you say is what Theodore Kaczynski wrote in his manifesto Industrial Society and Its Future. And he killed to get it published and publicised. A lot of good insights in that text but in the end it was just a one man revolution that came to nothing.

  139. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Advancing meaningful core issues and arguments. Constructive. The thread should build on this comment.

  140. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I seem to recall that secession was tried once before in American history, and it didn’t work out well for the secessionists. What makes you think it would be different today?

    Tons of differences. Nukes, for example. Let’s leave it there.
    Now, to address the differences properly, and, more importantly, to work based on that, requires serious work by serious players. And, not in public.

    On the other hand, even if it could be organized politically in the current environment (very doubtful imo), trying to secede while the state is at full strength seems like a prescription for failure.

    Disagree.
    There is a peculiar dynamic at work between secession and the strength of the central power. And, it’s not technological but human.

    This is how I see it: the current environment is rapidly changing, actually. Creating more divisions and fundamentally weakening the central power.
    At the end of the day, it boils down to the effectiveness of armed forces to squash the secession. As things go, I see them more and more ineffective there. Not because of technology but the human factor there.
    Again, that’s complicated and, more importantly, tricky topic, especially here.

    Let’s stop beating around the bush. Any serious talk about practicalities of secession in any organized state can land a person in prison for life. Simple reason: sooner or later you must take into account how to confront the armed forces. And, in the current paradigm, it’s treason and/or terror. Simple as that.

    All chat about secession always gets there. “You can’t secede because they’ll squash you”. As you said above. “Well, not necessarily”. “Explain”. “…………………”. End of conversation.

    As I said a couple of times before, find an experienced Colonel/one star General, combat arms, retired, and not happy with all this and ask him. See………

  141. KevinM says:

    It’s too late to change or fix anything. The coup has already happened, as the media is obviously completely coopted and scripted. The helpless population are frogs, and the media is the boiling water. Whites need to start finding ENCLAVES, secure, provisioned, hard to reach and well-armed. The shift will come suddenly, and there will be nowhere to hide. The best offense will be good defense. Form them NOW.

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  142. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    The current furor over “white supremacists” reminds me of the great scare of the “skinheads” back in the 80’s. Cops were pulling them over on “suspicion”. Now, it seems as the majority of cops are shaven “skinheads”.

  143. Funnucio says:

    Shep Smith is integral part of NWO/Globo Homo (IMHO).
    He should star on ABC’s Modern Family, where he could lie with impunity.
    No credibility.
    Just go away

  144. Here in LA, many cops are tattooed shaven-headed dimwits who look like gang members— but more recently they’re most often Mexican (or other “Latino”), not Euro-white skinheads.

  145. Zumbuddi says:
    @KevinM

    The populace need not remain a slave to media– that we can choose to ignore, unplug, work around and without.
    No American is required by law to pay $80 – $300 / month to have propaganda piped into his home.
    Unplug.
    Write to Directors of media corporations, tell them you do not like their product
    Think up reasons to sue media corps & executives PERSONALLY– they have a lot to lose.

    Regnery Press started in a dining room when Henry Regnery realized his voice and views were not being heard. There are independent publishers out there — Helena Cobham has brought some important work to print, like Gareth Porter’s Manufactured Crisis.

    The surveillance staye is a more difficult matter
    Wear disguises???

    Likewise, organizing via internet not secure, but people organized before internet. Be creative — you may invent the next new thing.

    Above all, Non est illegitimi carborundum.
    Do not embue ADL, AIPAC etc w/ power they are not entitled to.

    Are you aware that it was Zionist Jews who labeled the swastika “hate?”

    Zionist Jews were behind labeling Confederate flag “hate.”

    Zionist Jews / ADL were all over Charlottesville.

    Why should Americans cower on the command of Zionist Jews?

    I don’t care what you think of Nahzeez etc.
    Fly a swastika as an act of defiance.
    Burn the Israeli flag as an act of defiance.

    Zionists are telegraphing to us the symbols that scare them: let them know they SHOULD be afraid– afraid of the contagious power of the people who are on to their deceptions and will no longer cower or comply.

  146. Commentator Mike: “It’s a pity the system hasn’t selected against violence and criminality among the ruling classes. ”

    Since the state arrogates to itself a monopoly on violence, and is the arbiter of what’s legal or not, the same selection pressures were never applied to it.

    Commentator Mike: “Otherwise what you say is what Theodore Kaczynski wrote in his manifesto Industrial Society and Its Future. ”

    The criticism that these ideas are not original is itself not original. That’s exactly what so-called intellectuals said about Kaczynski’s manifesto, which I linked to above. Kaczynski also pointed out that they did that because they were afraid to discuss his arguments, presumably because then they’d have to admit his conclusions are sound. We see that reaction here too from those on the political right, who are often technophiles. The most they venture is a curt dismissal: “technology is just a tool” they say, implying that it compels no action, nor contains any implications beyond itself. But in his brief manifesto Kaczynski actually shows that this is not true, and that “Progress” has generated many more problems than it has solved. Racists could apply his insights and notice that it’s technological progress that has generated many of the problems that are a constant source of complaint on the right; technological progress that has shaped and continues to shape culture in ways adverse to whites, but do they? No, “technology is just a tool” they’ll repeat. That’s the most you get. Apparently they’d rather keep blaming a mythical “man behind the curtain” than admit the problems are self-caused, and would go away if the technology went away.

    Commentator Mike: “A lot of good insights in that text but in the end it was just a one man revolution that came to nothing.”

    The technological system is always busy producing new and more powerful tools, tools which one day, in the proper hands, may be used to destroy it. Someday, perhaps in the not-too-distant future, there may arise another Kaczynski, with a weapon more effective than gunpowder bombs.

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  147. Just as in the Epstein case – which really is NOT about Epstein but rather about his protectors –
    the White Nationalism or White Supremacy kerfuffle is another distraction from the real issue – Western Civilization! Do we defend it or commit suicide?
    Copied from my library – ”White supremacy might be the only thing to save the country.

    First, what is supremacy? Derives from the word supreme, as in authority.

    Japan – are the Japanese supreme in Japan? Chinese in China? Do they guard their supremacy jealously?

    Another question: Can you beat Western Civilization (WC) by any other – today?
    How and where did it grow and flourish?
    Oh yeah – how many folks are just hell bent to move to Africa, Latin America? They all wanna come here – and then what?” – read the rest here – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/08/white-supremacy-is-it-time-to-face.html – requires much reading. Research is not a 5 second sound bite!

  148. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Robert,

    What Ted was proposing is an extremely hard sell:

    With regard to revolutionary strategy, the only points on which we absolutely insist are that the single overriding goal must be the elimination of modern technology, and that no other goal can be allowed to compete with this one.

    Especially WNs/WSs are extremely proud of the achievements of technological society, since it is a white man’s creation, and will not let it go. Even if there were some apocalyptic destruction of modern technological society, the survivours would still make use of whatever is left, or try to rebuild, as so many SciFi books and films show.

  149. peterAUS: “Tons of differences. Nukes, for example. Let’s leave it there.
    Now, to address the differences properly, and, more importantly, to work based on that, requires serious work by serious players. And, not in public.”

    You make a fair point. The technological situation has changed, and this changes the political options. But the path you’re suggesting requires a political movement, not just a conspiracy of a few people. In essence, the problem then boils down to, in the future, will YT become explicitly racist in large numbers or not? On that question, my crystal ball is as cloudy as yours. But if the past is any guide to the future, the answer is no. There’s huge cultural inertia against it, both church and state vigorously oppose it, and as a general rule, the more people that need to be involved to bring something off, the less likely it is to happen. Further, even if, by some miracle, it did happen, there still would remain the threats presented by the technological system itself. A whites-only nation might delay their racial extinction a bit, but the trend forced by the system would still be towards globalization, and eventually race mixing would occur. Plus, it’s clear that the white race as it currently exists will eventually fall to “Progress” anyway. You’ve cited AC Clarke, but more likely are other scenarios — migration into robot bodies, for example, or becoming cyborgs. Such “people” (if you want to call them that) will have less in common with us than we do with Neanderthals. If/when that happens, the white race will effectively be dead.

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  150. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    the path you’re suggesting requires a political movement, not just a conspiracy of a few people.

    Yes.

    In essence, the problem then boils down to, in the future, will YT become explicitly racist in large numbers or not?

    Not necessarily. We are talking secession here. ALL that is needed, to START with is…”we do not recognize THAT AND THAT authority of Washington D.C”.
    Let’s say….”we do not recognize FBI authority here, thank you very much. We have our own Police capable enough.”
    Or “the National Guard here shall not take any orders from Washington”.
    Endless possibilities.

    On that question, my crystal ball is as cloudy as yours.

    Makes sense.

    But if the past is any guide to the future, the answer is no.

    Hehe…that’s where we disagree.

    There’s huge cultural inertia against it, both church and state vigorously oppose it, and as a general rule, the more people that need to be involved to bring something off, the less likely it is to happen.

    Yes re the former, definitely no re the later. The former, actually, tends to create the later.

    Further, even if, by some miracle, it did happen, there still would remain the threats presented by the technological system itself.

    Yes.

    A whites-only nation might delay their racial extinction a bit, but the trend forced by the system would still be towards globalization, and eventually race mixing would occur.

    Depends. I’d say we should focus on the “delay” first and THEN tackle the rest. Small….hehe…steps.

    Plus, it’s clear that the white race as it currently exists will eventually fall to “Progress” anyway. You’ve cited AC Clarke, but more likely are other scenarios — migration into robot bodies, for example, or becoming cyborgs. Such “people” (if you want to call them that) will have less in common with us than we do with Neanderthals. If/when that happens, the white race will effectively be dead.

    Possible.
    What IS given is that we are fast becoming targets in own countries. THAT is the immediate problem which needs addressing and resolving. In my book, autonomy/loose confederation/secession is the ways to do it.
    THEN we address those issues of yours.

    You can contribute, definitely.
    Based on

    regard to revolutionary strategy, the only points on which we absolutely insist are that the single overriding goal must be the elimination of modern technology, and that no other goal can be allowed to compete with this one.

    You sell that to Washington D.C. That will definitely nullify “squash as a bug” thing cuckservatives like to say when talking about secession. Federal troops are more than welcome to use spears, swords and horses.
    We’ll stick to helicopter gunships tanks and mobile artillery, thermals, computers etc.

    All good.

  151. Commentator Mike: “Especially WNs/WSs are extremely proud of the achievements of technological society, since it is a white man’s creation, and will not let it go.”

    I agree that people will never voluntarily abandon technological civilization, but that’s not required. All that’s required is a visionary with a suitable means of bringing about its destruction. A blow to the system of sufficient power to cause a worldwide collapse and consequent population decrease from famine, disease, and conflict might well be something from which the global technological system could not recover.

    Commentator Mike: “Even if there were some apocalyptic destruction of modern technological society, the survivours would still make use of whatever is left, or try to rebuild, as so many SciFi books and films show.”

    They could try, but might not be able to do it. A century or two of darkness, or much less, depending on the resource in question, and salvage would be unproductive.

    Or, they might choose a different path entirely.

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  152. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Dr. Robert Morgan,

    Would you classify Pol Pot’s actions as an attempt at an anti-technological “green” revolution, albeit a brutal one? I am not very familiar with everything that went on there at the time, and I am not sure what of what we’re told is true and what is propaganda, but “Year Zero” seems to have had some elements of this.

  153. Commentator Mike “Would you classify Pol Pot’s actions as an attempt at an anti-technological “green” revolution, albeit a brutal one?”

    I know as little about his motivations as you do, but it may have been. If it was, it was ill-thought out, since even if he was able to achieve a strictly agrarian society in Cambodia utilizing only a low level of technology, unless the technological system suffers a collapse on a worldwide basis, it would just try to re-incorporate his nation, which it did when he was overthrown from outside. I think this fate would also very likely befall any white separatist nation. Separatists such as PeterAUS aren’t taking seriously the level of hostility the system has for any organization outside itself. For example, S. Africa had nukes, but didn’t use them. Economic sanctions and worldwide opprobrium were enough to break them. A motto for the global technological system could be the Borg’s “Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated!”

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  154. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Separatists such as PeterAUS aren’t taking seriously the level of hostility the system has for any organization outside itself. For example, S. Africa had nukes, but didn’t use them.

    Actually, they do. They also recognize and acknowledge tons of differences between then South Africa and tomorrow secession in the USA (or some other Western countries).

    NOBODY on this planet will try anything against secession with the nuclear capability of just a fraction of the current US arsenal. M.A.D. will work beautifully there.
    MIRVs with thermonuclear payload + flight time. Oh, my…..
    “But…but..you can’t get those nukes. No way.”
    “……………………………………………………………………………………………..”.

    Funny how all the arguments against secession always come to that “you’ll get squashed” option.
    Always.

    Secession simply can’t be on the table and freely discussed. All the rest can….haha…but no, no…not that one.
    Funny.
    Understandable, though, especially with the Next Most Important Election coming soon.

  155. @peterAUS

    peterAUS,

    Definitely having nukes will keep the dogs at bay and allow you to develop your society however you want, as North Korea shows, unless there is internal change to join the globalist outside, as South Africa did, and for all we know North Korea may do so too one day.

    Theodore Kaczynski offers an excellent critique of leftism and the psychology of leftists, but about his analysis that the dynamics of technological development will eventually enslave us no matter what is grim, but I’d say debatable, or is it just my wishful thinking that it shouldn’t be so? Jacques Ellul studied technological development in depth, and its relation to economics, society, culture, etc. and concluded:

    In fact, there is one and only one means to their solution, a world-wide totalitarian dictatorship which will allow technique its full scope and at the same time resolve the concomitant difficulties

    Then the question arises as to who will control that dictatorship. If those who are working towards it, well … that’s why most of us come to UR, because we don’t like that prospect.

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  156. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Definitely having nukes will keep the dogs at bay and allow you to develop your society however you want, as North Korea shows, unless there is internal change to join the globalist outside, as South Africa did, and for all we know North Korea may do so too one day.

    Yes.
    As I’ve said (several times) that project (from autonomy to secession) requires serious and hard work, by serious and capable people. Re the latter, at this stage, expecting that from “alt-whatever” is as expecting from Trump to deliver on his promises to those who vote for him (Jews and his mates excluded, of course).

    As more quality people are pushed by the other side into ours, well, the things will change there. Rather soon I feel.

    ….about his analysis that the dynamics of technological development will eventually enslave us no matter what is grim, but I’d say debatable, or is it just my wishful thinking that it shouldn’t be so?

    Distraction. Make of that what you will.

    As for Andrew Clarke and similar guys, definitely more to come, well, they are simply naive. They, still, simply don’t get it. And a Brit, of all people. One word: “Troubles”. If people like him can’t learn from that period…..oh my.

  157. Commentator Mike: “Then the question arises as to who will control that dictatorship.”

    Ellul’s answer to this is that technique is in control of man, not the other way around. This is true because, for any objective, only the most efficient technique to attain it will be used (to choose an inefficient technique is just choosing to fail), and man does not control what is most efficient. It simply appears, as a consequence of invention or discovery. The technological system develops then according to its own internal logic, and presents only one best solution to each problem that arises. Ellul goes on to describe this as leading to a dictatorship of test tubes rather than one of hobnailed boots, much more harsh and totalitarian than any before. He’s correct. Ultimately, such an inhuman system must re-engineer mankind to deprive it of its human qualities. Only in this way will it be able to adapt man to its requirements.

    Certainly any white separatist state would face intense hostility from the system, and more or less require a dictatorship (see N. Korea, or WWII Germany). Living under such a dictatorship might be a tough sell to American whites, who are used to the illusion of democracy. Also, Kim’s people are supposedly starving to death, but nevertheless willing to “eat grass” to retain their nukes. Would American white separatists? That would take quite a level of commitment, unseen in them heretofore. I’m also not so sure that a weapon that can’t be used except at the cost of one’s own life is really all that powerful. Lately there have been suggestions that a US war with Russia might be a possibility. Apparently there is some thinking that nuclear weapons wouldn’t be used in such a conflict, or if they were used, the damage would be tolerable. It’s possible the system would be willing to risk the loss of a few cities in order to wipe out a white enclave.

  158. peterAUS,

    The Provos were serious players and represented the military wing of a nationalist movement. Then there was the political wing Sinn Fein, and although there was some overlap in personnel, members of the political wing were generally under surveillance but allowed to carry on with their political and propaganda activities. These nationalist kids can’t quite compare, and anyway I doubt any of their actions were of the type carried out by military wings of rebel factions, so I presume they never expected their organisation to be banned under the PTA, or to be prosecuted for whatever…. I can only go by the available information, which is that they were just involved in disseminating their views to the public, and they claim the most serious allegations are unfounded. OK, we don’t know whether they were planning something more serious or if it was just idle prattle they were engaging in. Perhaps the goalposts have shifted dramatically, and these days you get banned and prosecuted for a lot less than in the past in these so-called democracies. It wasn’t quite 1984 in 1984, but now … ???

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Sean
  159. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The Provos were serious players and represented the military wing of a nationalist movement. Then there was the political wing Sinn Fein, and although there was some overlap in personnel, members of the political wing were generally under surveillance but allowed to carry on with their political and propaganda activities.

    Yep.

    …These nationalist kids can’t quite compare

    You mean

    These alt-whatever chatters can’t quite compare.

    Oh yes.

    Perhaps the goalposts have shifted dramatically, and these days you get banned and prosecuted for a lot less than in the past in these so-called democracies.

    Yes. Will get worse. That will create a backclash. Which will create more “worse”. Etc.
    And the end of the process we will have an “armed wing” of “al-Right”. What type, size etc. remains to be seen.

  160. Zinj says:
    @peterAUS

    “I have something for the author and, perhaps 5 % of people blabbing in this pub: don’t you think we are getting into the phase where we could start DOING something about the problem, not just acknowledging, again and again, that we have a problem?
    Fine if we can’t do it. Not good enough. No prob.
    It would be sort of honest to at least acknowledge that.”

    “Nick Fury: I had to give them the push.”

    The great thing about conservatives is most of them are “mind your own business”-types. Their natural state is to leave you alone unless you really mess with them.

    The bad thing about conservatives is most of them are “mind your own business”-types. Their natural state is to not do anything about other people making a mess of things until things are REALLY bad; at which point they use a sledge hammer to kill the cockroaches.

    Moral of the story: Don’t be a friggin’ cockroach.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Tim76
  161. peterAUS says:
    @Zinj

    Their natural state is to not do anything about other people making a mess of things until things are REALLY bad.

    Looks like it.

    An extremely simple analogy:
    The “other” wants to take our land. We have hard and reliable data about it. We can, with ease, take out their leadership. Cost: a bit of public image and two SF troopers. We watch.
    The “other” starts to organize their armed force. We can, also rather easily, take those rudiments out. Cost: around a platoon of troopers. We watch.
    The “other” got organized and armed, poised to strike into out territory. We could hit them now in a couple of hard battles, on their territory and crush them. Cost: around a battallion altogether. We watch.
    The “other” invades, takes a chunk of our territory, with the “special” treatment of our citizens etc. We start to contemplate the response. Things aren’t REALLY bad.
    The “other”, emboldened, keeps pushing. Straight to our capital. Well..now the things look REALLY bad. Time to fight. We do. We win. Cost: a bit higher than those two troopers from the first paragraph.
    All good. Dumb too, but, doesn’t’ matter.

    Interestingly enough, the “other” side in this conflict doesn’t appear to be dumb. Its reaction in Charlottesville and after, including now, proves it. They tend to squash the cockroach (in this case “us”) as soon as they see it.

    Why do things easy way when we can do them the extremely hard way? “We” will wait to become a targeted minority in the state organized by “them” and then act. Sounds………..interesting.

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  162. @peterAUS

    I think you’re scaring people around here

    You obviously have more faith in ‘Murica’s r-selected white rabbits than I do. With regards to myself, I wish it were otherwise.

    Question: Why should any experienced warrior – one who has (unfortunately?) retained the mindset past youth – risk dying for a bunch of LARPing rabbits who couldn’t trouble themselves to peer into the future, study the enemy, collaborate and organize, and mount an effective resistance way back in the Sixties when it was much easier to do so and with a greater likelihood of success?

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  163. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    I think you’re scaring people around here

    I am not quite sure I understood the above. If all this continues as it’s been going for the last, say, 20 years, “we” shall become a targeted minority. Now, when I say “we” it’s all Whites from the middle class down. Granted, the upper class will be fine.

    You obviously have more faith in ‘Murica’s r-selected white rabbits than I do. With regards to myself, I wish it were otherwise.

    Well…hope is the word.

    Question: Why should any experienced warrior – one who has (unfortunately?) retained the mindset past youth – risk dying for a bunch of LARPing rabbits who couldn’t trouble themselves to peer into the future, study the enemy, collaborate and organize, and mount an effective resistance way back in the Sixties when it was much easier to do so and with a greater likelihood of success?

    I hear you. You don’t.

    You focus on yourself and people you care for IF they are on the same page.

    As things get worse more and more people will get on that page. Not because they want it but because the other side will push them there. They will need, want…demand…. somebody to help them. You and your group can be that help.
    Hehe…you know how it works I guess. I like to take Israel as a good example. One of the reasons is that most people here simply stop reading my posts.IDF has core command, control and logistics teams ready as we speak, to expand, if necessary, on a short timetable. 30 men now….a full battalion in 48 hours.
    Same principle.

    Now, obviously, my line of thinking is along the path to secession.

    SHTF is different, of course. In that case, sure, your “group” is all you focus on. Or similar groups. Leave the rest out.
    Having said that, well, I am sure you do play scenarios (on paper, naturally……). Well, traumatic experiences in SHTF scenarios would FAST create people on your wavelength. You wouldn’t mind a total “progtard” now, who is Olympic level shot, to join you after his family got massacred by….somebody. Or a medical doctor. Hell, you can even ….hehe..” conscript” one. Etc.

    You just “play” with different METT-T stuff. We do live in interesting times.

  164. @peterAUS

    peterAUS,

    Dare I say, having a kibbutz type system would help some of these atomised whites get together. Still for now, as things get worse it’s white flight, then white flight again, and again.

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  165. Oldtradesman: “Why should any experienced warrior – one who has (unfortunately?) retained the mindset past youth – risk dying for a bunch of LARPing rabbits who couldn’t trouble themselves to peer into the future, study the enemy, collaborate and organize, and mount an effective resistance way back in the Sixties when it was much easier to do so and with a greater likelihood of success?”

    Interesting question. And for those who count on a “worse is better” game plan, like peterAUS, it’s well to keep in mind the example of S. Africa. Whites there too certainly had plenty of time to plan, and even seemingly had a more realistic appraisal of the negro. Things are worse for them now, but still no resistance. It doesn’t appear to have a radicalizing effect.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  166. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Dare I say, having a kibbutz type system would help some of these atomised whites get together. Still for now, as things get worse it’s white flight, then white flight again, and again.

    Precisely.

    Hahaha….all we need to do is to learn from the masters of the game. So simple.
    So impossible for the majority of “alt-whatever” too. Well, for now at least.

    “We” will get there.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  167. @peterAUS

    I think you’re scaring people around here – Old

    I am not quite sure I understood the above. If all this continues as it’s been going for the last, say, 20 years, “we” shall become a targeted minority. Now, when I say “we” it’s all Whites from the middle class down. Granted, the upper class will be fine.

    I’m referring to rapidly diminished commentary when the topics such as SHTF and secession are discussed, and the reflexive “you’ll be squashed” response by so many LARPing “dissidents” who have no plan for the future beyond blogging, commenting, book-buying, and whining about the unfairness of it all on platforms ultimately controlled by the enemy. For decades SHTF and secession have made the blightwing uncomfortable. One could say this is understandable, but organizing and developing plans to grow a genuine boots on ground movement and confront the Left politically generated almost zero interest over the same period.

    In 2015-16 a good friend and I advocated that the Trump campaign create a political army of 150,000 to conduct rallies, pull trailers with signs, fly banners, conduct sailing regattas, illuminate the sky with spotlights, register white voters, transport the elderly to the polls, etc., in counties throughout the nation. We suggested 30-75 volunteers from every “red” county, with events to be held in politically friendly locations. We tried to generate interest on the Internet and asked people to join us in selling the idea to the Trump campaign. The near universal response from the indolent Right was to denigrate the idea of laying the groundwork for a genuine movement. Instead, they would “Tweet our way to victory!” The result? Trump lost the popular vote, a huge amount of civil legitimacy, no inspiration/leadership training, and no movement comprised of genuine activists.

    Apparently Trump wasn’t serious. Quite all right, though. The indolent Right was never serious.

    You needn’t respond to this, PeterAUS. I’m merely attempting to clarify my meaning.

  168. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Interesting question. And for those who count on a “worse is better” game plan, like peterAUS, it’s well to keep in mind the example of S. Africa. Whites there too certainly had plenty of time to plan, and even seemingly had a more realistic appraisal of the negro. Things are worse for them now, but still no resistance. It doesn’t appear to have a radicalizing effect.

    Hi Doc,

    PeterAUS is an optimist.

    His “worse is better game plan” is a direct result of the lack of imagination, indolence, and cowardice of the failed Right, which has stridently claimed that worse is worse for the past 55 years and has done nothing to forestall conditions worsening.

    PeterAUS thinks r-selected rabbits can become lions if they are kicked sufficiently hard. I, on the other hand, am pretty sure the rabbits will run, hide, be caught, and eaten. Same as it has always been.

    Interesting comparison of the white condition in S. Africa to the U.S. At this point methinks it apple to orange. OTOH, given their track record, if the frightened “worse is worse” crowd has its way the accuracy of your comparison will certainly improve.

  169. peterAUS says:

    You needn’t respond to this, PeterAUS. I’m merely attempting to clarify my meaning.

    Well, it’s a good comment I could, perhaps, add something to.

    I’m referring to rapidly diminished commentary when the topics such as SHTF and secession are discussed, and the reflexive “you’ll be squashed” response by so many LARPing “dissidents” who have no plan for the future beyond blogging, commenting, book-buying, and whining about the unfairness of it all on platforms ultimately controlled by the enemy. For decades SHTF and secession have made the blightwing uncomfortable.

    Yes.
    But, again, things are changing.
    For example people you mention don’t own the conversation anymore. One can talk about it, as we are, for example, without an instant ban.
    Now, for those two “scenarios” SHTF is much easier to talk about.
    Secession is another matter altogether. Simply requires much more expertise and, well, access to certain sensitive data. What I am sure of, it can’t be talked about in public anywhere now. But, the idea will be thought about more and more by some people. The other side will make it happen.
    I am sure that within the next 3-5 years we’ll be able to see some serious material published on the Internet.

    One could say this is understandable, but organizing and developing plans to grow a genuine boots on ground movement and confront the Left politically generated almost zero interest over the same period.

    Well, those things can happen fast, if parameters are right.
    When one tries to bring up some examples from somewhere else, those you mentioned are quick to dismiss. Hehe…understandable. I do believe there are lots of similarities and possibilities.
    Fear is a great motivator. Fear of the “other”, that is.

    In 2015-16 a good friend and I advocated that the Trump campaign create a political army of 150,000 to conduct rallies, pull trailers with signs, fly banners, conduct sailing regattas, illuminate the sky with spotlights, register white voters, transport the elderly to the polls, etc., in counties throughout the nation. We suggested 30-75 volunteers from every “red” county, with events to be held in politically friendly locations.

    Nice.

    We tried to generate interest on the Internet and asked people to join us in selling the idea to the Trump campaign. The near universal response from the indolent Right was to denigrate the idea of laying the groundwork for a genuine movement. Instead, they would “Tweet our way to victory!” The result? Trump lost the popular vote, a huge amount of civil legitimacy, no inspiration/leadership training, and no movement comprised of genuine activists.
    Apparently Trump wasn’t serious. Quite all right, though. The indolent Right was never serious.

    90 % of it I’d say.

    Well, again, fear is a great motivator. A lot happened since and, looks like it, accelerating.

    On practical terms, building on that fear, from the bottom up, is the way to go, I feel.
    Hehe..as I like to say, “we” could learn a lot from Jews/Israelis. How to keep your own group living inside an unfriendly environment to start with.
    Then, from unfriendly to hostile.

    That’s even if things keep going as now all the way to “Brasil/SA” mix. Have your own “tribe” to rely on. Hehe…prison rules.

    And, should things escalate, well, that group would be so easy to network with similar groups and grow so fast you wouldn’t believe it.

    On practical terms, from a little neighboorhood watch, through “hobby groups” (preppers included), all the way to a force capable of seizing a city. Something like that.

    The key is so simple it boggles the mind: having a White man/woman thinking about his/her race EXACTLY as ALL the rest think/feel.
    I think we are getting there, fast.

  170. @peterAUS

    peterAUS,

    I’d add more but … I stand to be misunderstood …. and a thousand and one UR readers scanning from behind their blinkers would rise up and scream … whatever they scream … and then I’d get into a flame war from here to Kingdom Come.

    So many versions of that song to choose from, so the Animals, or hey let it be Yusuf Islam the former Cat Stevens the former Steven Demetre Georgiou just so …

    Or what the hell… let me be misunderstood.

  171. @Oldtradesman

    There is nothing to suggest whites are rabbits. Maybe frogs in the pot being boiled. The potential in white males, and females, to do extreme damage is still there. It’s all in the mind. But yeah, South African whites were far less brainwashed than westerners but they had the whole world against them. Maybe for some others in the future it won’t be so.

  172. @Commentator Mike

    MIKE

    Actually, in many cases it other minorities who tend to finally erupt.

    Look at what happened in Bradford when that Jamaican girl was raped or claimed she was by Pakistanis.

    Look at the Koreans in Los Angeles during the LA riots.

  173. Sean says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The leadership structure of the Provos was practically identical to that of Sinn Fein in many areas of Northern Ireland .

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  174. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    PeterAUS thinks r-selected rabbits can become lions if they are kicked sufficiently hard. I, on the other hand, am pretty sure the rabbits will run, hide, be caught, and eaten. Same as it has always been.

    He actually thinks that, in the “proper” environment, using an animal analogy, some rabbits can become wolves. Or jackals. Or hyenas.
    A smart leader can, with ease, find a use of such men in ….certain….scenarios. Even “rabbit” men can have their use for such a leader.

    You are correct re SHTF scenarios, self-defense etc.
    You are not re confronting the direct or/and sponsored state power. From autonomy to secession.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  175. @Commentator Mike

    Hi CM,

    You may be commtted to the Cause, as I once was. Two years ago I realized it had all been a massive waste of time and effort (several decades). Evidence supporting the Right’s indolent white rabbitry is massive and simply not open to serious discussion. No donor-dependent “thinker” selling books and attending European conferences will tell you this, of course. The “boiling pot of frogs” you’re referring to lends support to my position.

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  176. @Sean

    Sean,

    Probably. Anyway, in those days you wouldn’t be arrested for advocating or propagating armed struggle, only for actually conducting it, although there may have been exceptions. Compare to these days and what Tommy Robinson or the NA guys get arrested for, or somebody for calling an “it” a “he” instead of a “she”.

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  177. @Commentator Mike

    MIKE

    When Thatcher put pressure on prominent Irish-Americans-particularly the President at that time, Ronald Reagan-the money dried up that funded them.

    Whereas Tommy has no money or arms.

    He’s less well-armed than the pimps and heroin dealers he complains about.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  178. @Oldtradesman

    I agree but then the question is could you have gone along all those decades towing the party line, clapping when you’re told to, booing when told to boo, and all the rest that goes along with climbing the social ladder for the material benefits? I know one can just act and play the role even when knowing what it’s all about, but then it gets tiring and grates and eats on you, maybe even on your soul. Leading a double life, with the official one not in line with your beliefs, for a long time can have unforeseen consequences … often unpleasant ones. Some seem to be able to do it. Sort of attending the Pride march and waving the flag all smiles when ordered by your school or corporation, and then cursing them all, the fags and their enablers, in private, like those ordered to do the same in some dictatorships to celebrate their dictator’s birthday, visit, or whatever. It’s heavy man! Very heavy! It’s bad enough having to deal with it when you’re on the fringes of society, imagine what it’s like to be stuck right in there. Or worse even directing and enforcing it, which after reaching a certain social level you’d be obliged to do. But yeah, many of those alt-whatever figures are in it just for a livelihood, but then they don’t have much else they can do as they’ve become total outcasts seeing they’re now public personas. I doubt Epstein would have named any of them as beneficiaries in his will.

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  179. @Commentator Mike

    Hi CM,

    I understand the difficulties quite well.

    Observations and lessons learned (more or less) during childhood and teens: Your eyes don’t lie, you haven’t misheard, you are not mistaken. Santa Claus is not real. There really are monsters out there. They follow you everywhere. Grow stronger, tougher, better trained, knowledgeable, get back on your feet when knocked down, talk to friends, work together, never trust the kid in the nice house or take your eyes off of the monster, out-think and crush him.

    Simple. More difficult now, perhaps, than it was in the Sixties, but doable with the proper materials. Requires courage, physical strength and vigor, intelligence, vision, a willingness to take a punch or two, etc..

    Problem is Western civilization is dysgenic, selects for rabbitry. Too many defectives survive childhood, rise in status, and reproduce. Some have high IQs. Warriors are scarcer than ever before.

    I used to market something similar to what PeterAUS is promoting. I fully get him and am **extremely** sympathetic. Really, I am!

    I wish him success.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  180. @peterAUS

    Hi PeterAUS,

    You are not [correct] re confronting the direct or/and sponsored state power. From autonomy to secession.

    Reading you is like revisiting myself in a former time. Despite my thoughts regarding the rabbits we have to work with, I strongly sympathize with your position and will continue monitoring your thoughts. I hope you are successful, brother.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  181. @Oldtradesman

    Oldtradesman,

    A case in point is an American called Julian Langness who published books like Fistfights with Muslims In Europe and The Coming War In Europe: Essays Impending Destabilization And Internal Confrontation With Islam, as well as run a site europeancivilwar.com. He used to focus on the practical and military/subversive/guerilla aspects of Fourth Generation Warfare that peterAUS prefers, and his site had some interesting articles. I think he was living on a farm in the mid-West and trying to have a go being independent and living off the grid, and although initially not committed in any particular ideological direction he seemed to drift towards the alt-right. I see that his site has been dead for a while and is now off line, and I think he mentioned that he had to get a proper job. So I suppose it was hard to make ends meet and support a family the way he tried to, and I guess he had to stop his activities. Obviously, as he was using his own name and was exposing himself in the public with his views, he can’t quite hide his past and supporting the family comes before all, and … well I won’t speculate about whatever compromises he has had to make to work in his current job, but some are obvious.

    You’re not him by any chance, I suppose you must be older? It would be good to get some feedback from him and the moves he’s had to make in his life since closing down his website, even under a pseudonym handle. I also wonder if he had any problems behind the scenes that he didn’t divulge, like threats to self and family, or pressure and surveillance from authorities, or the IT service providers, especially with regard to running that website.

    I myself like to offer as little, or hopefully no, none, zero, personal information about myself, and although I don’t think I have much to lose if I were doxed, because I don’t really have anything to hide other than my views if we’re really at the 1984 stage of the Ministry of Truth, and because of how and where I live, I’ve always preferred being incognito as a matter of habit, and don’t even have any social media accounts simply because I don’t want to support these CIA, NSA, etc. info gathering activities, although obviously they can get that on anybody regardless of any precautions we may take, as peterAUS wisely pointed out to a newcomer to UR recently.

    https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/julian-langness-from-europeancivilwar-com-has-a-freebie/

    Most of the links are now dead.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Oldtradesman
  182. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Reading you is like revisiting myself in a former time.

    I hear you.
    As people whose job is to keep tab on this type of chat on the Internet know…hehe….I’ve been saying the same for quite some time. Can’t remember anymore how many sites banned me.
    The difference is noticeable, here, for the last several months. No ban, not even moderation and the usual “gatekeepers” gave up.
    All….ALL…what matters is that you understand. I am sure that a couple more guys do; some of them not even posting here. That’s really….really…all what matters.

    Despite my thoughts regarding the rabbits we have to work with, I strongly sympathize with your position and will continue monitoring your thoughts.

    In a group of, say, 160 men, using your analogy, you have two tigers, several lions, a couple dozen wolves (mostly beta) , a couple dozen jackals (again, mostly beta, of course) and a dozen hyenas (all beta…).
    A couple of donkeys, a horse or two, some mules and a couple dozen rabbits.

    You, as a leader, have an obligation to use that human material and make a UNIT.
    Simple as that.

    Say, secession. Say, holding a bridge/power plant/water supply facility/pick your object. You send tigers on flanks to do their own thing (take care of enemy’s tigers most likely).
    You use lions as object section leaders (North, South….).
    You give wolves the best weapons (say machineguns, snipers and grenade/rocket launchers) and assign the most important fields of fire. Add jackals to them to observe, fetch wolves ammo etc. Mix hyenas and rabbits to fetch ammo to the jackals. Use the horses, mules and donkeys to improve positions within the strongpoint.
    Stuff like that.

    I hope you are successful, brother.

    Well, we’ll see. People like me are just “techs”.
    Say, secession. A political leadership tasks my types to do something about self-defense.
    Nothing more…..nothing less.

  183. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    ….military/subversive/guerilla aspects of Fourth Generation Warfare that peterAUS prefers…

    Actually, “peterAUS” does not prefer subversive/guerilla aspect of Fourth Generation Warfare.
    He does not even prefer military aspect of it. He simply believes that SERIOUS leaders of any Right movement MUST have that option at their disposal.

    Say, scenario:
    Push for a strong autonomy from the power of the regime in Washington D.C. All ticked. People unhappy, leadership appeared, movement got organized, blah…blah……Even managed to win elections there. Then went for the “push”.
    And the woman of color sends FBI HRT (with attachments, of course….) to arrest the leadership for ….pick anything.
    Two options:
    1. The goons swoon in, take the leaders, fly away….simple, easy. Trials, media…the circus.
    2. The goons estimate they can’t do it.
    Simple as that. No “subversive/guerilla” thing there. Well, of course that CNN will put any name you can think of, but we are just talking about 200 men and women with their personal weapons.

    The woman of color doesn’t like it.
    She orders National Guard (yes, I know…don’t be naive) to resolve it. Two options:
    1. They move in a couple of tanks, those people disperse, goons arrest the leaders.
    2. National Guard can’t do it. Now…………why it can’t do it I’ll leave out of this. Whoever can’t think about “why” just move on.

    The woman of color doesn’t like it.
    She orders the Federales to resolve it. Two options:
    1. They start deploying all that scary hardware and the movement collapses. A LOT of people get arrested and…oh my…
    2. The Federales can’t do it. Again, I’ll leave “why” out of this.

    There is no “guerrilla” here. Not even 4th Generation Warfare (well, for the most important part-holding the city and some parts around it under own control).

    Yes, the Devil is in details. And we can’t talk most of those details here.

    There is a peculiar synergy at works in the cases above. Peculiar. People who can’t see it should’t be getting involved in this topic.

  184. @Commentator Mike

    Hi Mike,

    I am older than Julian, who seems to be a fine young man of action. I hope all is well with him. It is almost assured that he has been harassed.

    Know that our e-movements and all that we write is electronically tracked and stored. At some point during the next decade this information will be retrieved. Many will be hunted, visited, and afforded the opportunity to finally greet and eat behind bars. Or worse. That is why this thread has generated little comment. Others, useful for their harmless “resistance,” whining, and general cuckery, will be preserved. The illusion of free speech is necessary until the great boomer die off at the end of the twenties or beginning of the thirties.

    You’ll not be able to convince normie whites that this is coming in their lifetime. When it finally happens explanations that “make sense” will be provided – just as they are now. Ten to fifteen years later, when what is happening becomes obvious, these morons will behave as if they’ve always known the truth but the imprisonment/killing of “nazis” was justified.

    I don’t know your age. I assume you are younger than me. What I want you to realize, however, is this is coming soon. Also know that none of the rabbits reading this thread will rise up, organize, and commit time, money, or effort to prevent it. Like pot-bellied, gasping NRA members wearing “Molon Labe” t-shirts, these people are LARPers.

    NRA: You mad, bro? Buy more door stoppers and brass paperweights!
    Conservatives: You mad, bro? Tune into Sean and bitch to your wife!
    WNs: You mad, bro? Read Z-man or Counter Currents and check out some obscure, “esoteric” video with 145 views on Bit Chute.
    Normies: You mad bro? Red-flag or SWAT that azzhole!
    All the above: You mad, bro? Vote harder, vote for the opposition, or quit voting.

    Rabbits. All of them.

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  185. @peterAUS

    You wanna try? Study online manuals for: MP Batallion in security operations; M.O.U.T.Start with a squad, finish with a platoon. Imagine you are a trooper, then a fireteam leader, then squad leader, and then platoon leader.

    Marine Rifle Squad
    https://tinyurl.com/yyxpom8l
    The Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad
    https://tinyurl.com/y2gxgmev
    Scouting and Patrolling
    https://tinyurl.com/y459bvzn
    Military Operations in Urbanized Terrain or,
    Marine Operations in Urbanized Terrain
    https://tinyurl.com/yykr3v9a
    Military Police Operations
    https://tinyurl.com/yxz4nj9s

    Print versions of these books, which I recommend, are available from Amazon for $15-22.

    Read real-life examples from ’89 to today. Yes, including Syria and Ukraine.

    Google: Syria Afghanistan war books list & Ukrainian war books

  186. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Harsh but, yes, possible. Not given, possible. How much, I don’t know.
    Hehe…trust me, I’ve thought a lot about all that and keep thinking on a daily basis.

    Let’s say you are on the 100 % bad outcome option; I am on……….say…..70% the same. Update it on weekly basis.

    My take on some elements of yours:

    Know that our e-movements and all that we write is electronically tracked and stored.

    Well, not quite sure about “all”, but yes.

    At some point during the next decade this information will be retrieved.

    Well, possible, but not given. That very data could be actually used for quite the opposite of that bad scenario of yours. Let’s leave it there.

    That is why this thread has generated little comment.

    Hahaha….yes.
    But, there is a funny part there. The problem with people here is that they really don’t understand the opposition. Being in such a database or not won’t make much of a difference should “they” really get a free rein.

    We’ll see.

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  187. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    There are two factors inherent to this game: time and pain/suffering.
    Perseverance too.

    Baltic nations. For how long they were waiting, under which conditions, to get their nation state back?
    How about Slovenes?
    Etc.

    Jews. I guess their combination of time/pain is quite something in that game.

    Generation after generation….and still at it until a success.

    Kurds, still going.

    White Americans have been in similar play for….how long…40 years, tops. Got serious only from 90’s, actually.

    Maybe something to keep in mind here.

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  188. peterAUS says:

    There IS one element in this topic, fundamental, that I am not quite sure about.

    It’s a fact that topic of secession (or anything from autonomy to full independent state ) isn’t popular among alt-whatever at this stage. Not quite sure about the reason.

    Two options, IMHO:
    1. People are actually scared of the opponent action/power. They see that endeavor, power wise, as impossible. Odds are simply too unfavorable.
    Or………….
    2. They actually do not want it. Simple as that. They want something else.
    That option and train of thought lead into some quite, how to put it, uncomfortable, waters. Like what “we” really, I mean really, want (not what “we” say, write etc…) and, fundamentally, who “we” really are.
    Let’s leave it there.

    My take: 30/70 former/later. Majority of “alt-whatever” are of that 70%. I’d say “good luck” with that but would be really disingenuous.

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  189. @peterAUS

    It’s a fact that topic of secession (or anything from autonomy to full independent state ) isn’t popular among alt-whatever at this stage. Not quite sure about the reason.

    Two options, IMHO:
    1. People are actually scared of the opponent action/power.
    2. They actually do not want it. Simple as that. They want something else.

    My take: 30/70 former/later. Majority of “alt-whatever” are of that 70%.

    The typical (normie) political conservative is foundationally conservative – that is, he is conservative by nature. Inertia drives his behavior. He exists in a niche that sustains him. He didn’t choose the niche, he was born to it. Change frightens him. His fear is fundamental. He doesn’t experiment. He is the enemy of uncertainty – averse to risk and hardship, including calculated risk if the “long odds” of failure might result in hardship (although he claims otherwise). Comfort and security are his internal bywords. He doesn’t lead or strive “to be the best.” He is obsequious. “Self-actualization,” to the extent that he has it, is limited to slithering to another nearby hiding place. When angered he takes his toys and plays elsewhere, if he can. If he can’t leave, then he conforms to the new reality and may even rat on his former friends. It’s a wonder the foundational conservative can leave his bed in the morning. His politics are overwhelmingly about rationalizing his fear and preserving his niche.

    Check the byline, here:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/

    “Books Against Time”

    Think about that. A foundational conservative, born in Russia 1945, would be a communist.

    The typical alt-whatever is foundationally conservative. The difference between him and his normie cousins is something introduced a bit of mental disequilibrium into his life, something he couldn’t escape. Whatever that “something” was, however, it didn’t change his fundamental nature.

    Autonomy, secession, a return to the ’50’s – these things introduce uncertainty and potential disequilibrium. The foundational connedservant is frozen in time. He wants to see his niche preserved/defended by others, but to go no further. Going further is risky.

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  190. @peterAUS

    White Americans have been in similar play for….how long…40 years, tops. Got serious only from 90’s, actually.

    White Americans have been in play since 1964, if not earlier: Immigration Act, Civil Rights Act, Great Society, Affirmative Action, Vatican II, National Council of Churches, etc. i agree the attack was openly publicized in the ’90s.

    “Similar” is not “same.”

    Threats to Jews and Kurds were external. Threat to white Americans internal. Jews and Kurds were never destroyed by outside forces. White ‘Muricans and Europeans – Western Civilization – have been taken from the inside.

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  191. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Insightful, and agree.

    Hehe…so much for the first “T” in METT-T.

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  192. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    White ‘Muricans and Europeans – Western Civilization – have been taken from the inside.

    True.
    Have you ever thought that core native nations in Communist countries were, also, taken from inside?

    If so, maybe you could take a look at “Serb/Albanian” thing from late 60s to the rise of Milosevic?

    If you do that, you could find, maybe, some interesting parallels, as: the ruling ideology and elite replacing one ethnic group with another in a part of a country. The group being replaced loses confidence in the ruling elites. The group creates a movement. The movement gets under pressure by the ruling elites (incluidng heavy police reaction). That pressure creates interesting dynamics in that very group outside of the region where they are being replaced. Sympathy, even support regardless of the “party line” being hammered in by all means available.
    And, very interesting, some members of the ruling elite see the opportunity there.
    Something like that.

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  193. Hi Peter,

    Have you ever thought that core native nations in Communist countries were, also, taken from inside?

    If so, maybe you could take a look at “Serb/Albanian” thing from late 60s to the rise of Milosevic?

    Sure. Russia, for example, with a little help from their “international” friends. I’m ignorant of the Serb-Albanian situation.

    My gut reaction is the Serbs weren’t taken from the inside in the manner we have been or if they were, then obstacles faced in freeing themselves were different. But then, ‘Murica’s criminal POTUS had them bombed into submission. Could be wrong, though. Perhaps the Serb and ‘Murican situation are closely comparable. Would certainly be interested in any information you can provide.

    Can you point to anything I could read on the topic: articles, books, whatever? Thanks.

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  194. @peterAUS

    so much for the first “T” in METT-T.

    For the one or two of you still reading the thread at this point, METT-T is spelled out here:

    http://bloodstripes.com/mett-t-for-the-patrol-leader/

    Mission, Enemy, Terrain, Troops, and Time.

    METT-T, as the link indicates, is for small unit leaders.

    I’m sure Peter is referring to Troops, not Terrain. 🙂

    His confidence in the ability of potential field grade officers to transform sufficient numbers of Blightwing rabbits into wolves/hyenas remains unparalleled. 🙂 🙂

    Hope. Admittedly, I’m beyond it.

    ‘Murican rabbits are on the menu.

  195. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Would certainly be interested in any information you can provide.

    Can you point to anything I could read on the topic: articles, books, whatever? Thanks.

    Well, there is a ton of material online about that place and time, but, to get to the meat of what I’ve been thinking would simply take too much time and effort for any meaningful result.
    Besides, the most important elements which could be useful for this discussion aren’t easy to dig out, even from, say, Hague official documents.

    I’ll try to put, today, something as my perception of that thing; could be wrong, but, still, I do believe there are TWO elements (I’ll explain….) which could be useful.

    Besides, a lot of info about all that I got from online forums; you “listen” to both parties in the conflict and make up your own mind. And the last, but not the least, I do have some contatcs with Serbs there, and here. We talk.

    So, let’s say it’s a mixed mass of the input; what I got out of it I’ll post, hopefully, some time today (my time) here. If not, tomorrow.

    As for the below, yes, Troops.

    As for

    His confidence in the ability of potential field grade officers to transform sufficient numbers of Blightwing rabbits into wolves/hyenas remains unparalleled.

    Hope. Admittedly, I’m beyond it.

    I do believe that the most likely outcome from all this is some custom mix of Brasil/South Africa/Brave New World. Say….90 %. In that scenario, all we (Whites from the middle class down) can do is to have some local network of people we could rely on, more or less, against gross physical violence by other groups. Some local self-defense group or similar.

    But, there is that 10 % left.

    Hell, imagine “they” go for the full-blown conventional war against Iran, occupation etc. I wouldn’t put that pass them.
    For that it’s likely they’d need to introduce some sort of draft. Even “progtards” could get uncomfortable with that. Things could start, domestically, getting out of hand. Etc.

    We’ll see.

  196. @peterAUS

    What I find interesting about the Albanian takeover of Kosovo during that period was:

    1. emigration of refugees from hardcore Communist Albania seeking a freer more liberal life in more open Yugoslavia (adding to existing Albanian population in Kosovo)

    2. procreation weapon used by Albanians to outbreed the Serbs with their greater reproduction rates

    3. setting up of parallel institutions by Albanians in Kosovo in blatant disregard of republican Serbian and federal Yugoslav institutions.

    The rest then followed including riots, rebellion, terrorism, and war with foreign intervention.

    We already see elements of this with Muslims in western Europe. They too, when in sufficient numbers, are setting up their own parallel institutions like the sharia courts (judiciary), madrassas (education). Then of course they are using immigration and procreation to add to their numbers, showing their teeth with riots and terrorism. And like with the Kosovar Albanians much is funded through criminal activities like pimping, drug smuggling and dealing, money laundering, etc.

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  197. Hell, imagine “they” go for the full-blown conventional war against Iran, occupation etc. I wouldn’t put that pass them.
    For that it’s likely they’d need to introduce some sort of draft. Even “progtards” could get uncomfortable with that. Things could start, domestically, getting out of hand. Etc.

    Either Iranians sink a US carrier or another 911 must be manufactured to generate sufficient enthusiasm for a draft. Standards must be dropped. Lower IQs, higher BMIs accepted. Who would they draft? Millennial soyboys? Skinny-jean metrosexuals? Obese rural kids? Crips? MS-13? Illegals granted citizenship for volunteering? None of these are out of the question. Hell, I think they are doing it already. Huge enlistment bonuses of $20k or more for ground troops? Arab and European proxies? Mercenaries? Nothing is off the table. Help me here, I’m stuck in the 70’s and 80’s. Still, I agree, enthusiasm might be short-lived unless Russia/China and the US regime kissed and made up. The “current year” is 2019, not 1941. Rabbit nations with a dearth of testosterone bomb primitive armies and villages from 35kft or from offshore batteries, then hire mercenaries should serious ground resistance be encountered. Meanwhile, back in CONUS, drooling foundational conservatives Not Of This World slobber enthusiasm, talk “french fries,” wave Chinese-made ‘Murican and Israeli flags, and care not a whit if the war lasted 20 years or more because Oorah bitches and Thank You For Your Service!

    I’ll try to put, today, something as my perception of that thing; could be wrong, but, still, I do believe there are TWO elements (I’ll explain….) which could be useful.

    Besides, a lot of info about all that I got from online forums; you “listen” to both parties in the conflict and make up your own mind. And the last, but not the least, I do have some contatcs with Serbs there, and here. We talk.

    So, let’s say it’s a mixed mass of the input; what I got out of it I’ll post, hopefully, some time today (my time) here. If not, tomorrow.

    That’s quite all right, Peter. We’ve been at this for a few days. Time for a break. I can look this stuff up by myself.

  198. @Oldtradesman

    Oldtradesman,

    That wouldn’t be a bad idea at all forcing all those you listed, and more, intentionally and deliberately to act as cannon fodder in first wave divisions after a crash course of like zero hours. Hell, even empty the jails and do the same. Arm them with guns loaded with blanks and send them against the IRGC. That’d be doing America and the world a favour.

  199. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Standards must be dropped. Lower IQs, higher BMIs accepted…. Illegals granted citizenship for volunteering?… Huge enlistment bonuses of $20k or more for ground troops? Arab and European proxies? Mercenaries? Nothing is off the table. ..
    … Meanwhile, back in CONUS, drooling foundational conservatives Not Of This World slobber enthusiasm, talk “french fries,” wave Chinese-made ‘Murican and Israeli flags, and care not a whit if the war lasted 20 years or more because Oorah bitches and Thank You For Your Service!

    Pretty much.

    We’ve been at this for a few days. Time for a break. I can look this stuff up by myself.

    Hehe…thanks.

    Food for thought there:

    An ethnic group which, on paper, is dominant in the country, BUT, not in that region. In that very region, they are a minority, faced with hostile “other” who are ethnically aware.

    Any attempt by members of that minority to address their fear is squashed from above for ideological reasons.

    Members of that minority, in desperation, self-organize. Local groups, for help, self-defense and simply sharing their experiences.

    The leadership of that group writes a petition to the “higher-ups”. Only 87 people are willing to sign it. Fear of being called out for not toeing a party line.

    ELEMENT ONE:
    A year later, the same petition, is signed by around 50 000 people. Something happened during that year.
    The state clamps down on the leadership of that group. A member is arrested.

    ELEMENT TWO:
    Around 40 000 people demonstrate before local government. The man is released after 3 days and all charges dropped.
    The group keeps the pressure on the local and federal government. Protests, petitions, etc.
    A rising star in the ruling party is sent to the region to pacify the group. Milosevic. He arrives there and does the usual.

    THE ELEMENT THREE:
    This one is…peculiar….Milosevic does the job by the (party) book but people aren’t listening to his talk anymore. Then…when addressing a rally of a couple of thousand those people, in a span of not more than 10 minutes he changes the tune. From criticizing the people, calling them names, he started agreeing with them. THAT is the MOMENT.

    The rest is history.

    You know…for the brief moment I did think Trump could be a similar case.

  200. SomeOlguy says:
    @WorkingClass

    Barr has always protected the deep state operatives. It’s in his DNA. Trump picking this pig for AG was a HUGE red flag proving there is no interest in fixing jack shit.

  201. I have never in all my life read so much worthless babble by so many people who think they are so smart and have all the answers. You people don’t have a clue as to what to do to stop the oncoming wave of total destruction that is headed in our direction. It will all be over in an instant and you will be dispatched to the trash bin of history.

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  202. Remember folks, September is National Preparedness Month. Tractor Supply Company has 40 lbs bags of pelletized lime on sale. Get your’s now and avoid the rush.

  203. “What should be completely avoided is the sometimes mentioned idea that “even if we got rid of the Jews we would still have all these other problems.” The Jews should always be the beginning and the end of every problem, from poverty to poor family dynamics to war to the destruction of the rain forest.” ~ Daily Stormer/Nazi Prime Directive

    You people can’t even get past this.

    Sniveling, moaning, and kvetching about how the Der Jews stole your manhood, turned you into pussies, and Master Raced your Whiteness.

    Well, if it is true, as many of you believe, that:

    WE ARE THE DER JEWS BITCH! THE DER JEWS CONTROL THE WORLD! THE DER JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE! THE DER JEWS HAVE DER JEWDI MIND CONTROL! THE DER JEWS TURN WHITE PEOPLES INTO DER JEW DER ZOMBIES!

    You don’t stand a chance in hell… do you?

    Most of you would be better off manning up to your lack of qualities, and manning up your qualities, rather than spending all day, every day, 24/7 blaming the Der Jews for your lack of qualities. Huh? But, but, but… it’s the Der Jews! If only we got rid of the Der Jews… even if we got rid of the Jews we would still have all these other problems!

    Maybe the problem, after all, isn’t the Der Jews, but your sniveling, moaning, and kvetching pathetic selves?

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  204. @Alpha and Omega

    Agreed, we don’t have a clue on how to stop the wave of destruction headed our way. Could you tell us what to do, please? Thanks in advance.

    Speaking for myself, I’ll do what 99.9% of Blightwing rabbits have done for 55+ years: disburse, hide, celebrate muh principles, send another $20 to GOA, and vote harder in 2020.

  205. @Random White Man

    Love yer CAPS, White Man! Thank you for defending the richest, best organized, most powerful, yet poisecuted ethnic group in modern history. Your courage is an inspires to us all. Thanks again for your contribution!

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  206. peterAUS says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Sound advice. Learn from the best. Replicate some things, customize some, invent some.
    One rule to rule them all…hehe:
    “What is good for Whites?”.

    A good start would be, say, as:
    https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/09/24/new-organization-aims-to-help-jews-bolster-their-self-defense/
    Just replace “Jew” with “White” and all good to go.

  207. Tim76 says:
    @Zinj

    @ Zinj – The strategy you’re talking about will have the same result as the Conservatives because it’s the same strategy as the Conservatives. “I’ll let them keep pushing me then I’ll give them a real warning and they’ll stop” But neglect to say they took a whole bunch of freedoms and heaped a pile of insult on you that you’ll wear. Then when the new normal has become comfortable for you they’ll push some more. Soon you’re trans grandchild will be marrying their pets and you’ll wave the rainbow flag because that’s what conservatives do

  208. Ned2 says:
    @Parfois1

    In lovely South Africa.
    They’ll be overrun and slaughtered before long.

  209. JimBeem says:
    @gotmituns

    In PLOS Medicine | DOI:10.1371/journal.pmed.1001875 September 15, 2015, an article titled “Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors and Violent Crime: A Cohort Study” conclusively shows that “there [is] a significant association between SSRIs and violent crime convictions for individuals aged 15 to 24”.

  210. @EliteCommInc.

    And your thoughts on ‘Black Supremacy’?

    Louis Farrakook? Black Nationalism?

    Asian Supremacy?

    ‘La Raza’ aka ‘The Race’?

    Japanese ‘Nationalism’? Their exclusion of muslims?

    Robert Mugabe’s thoughts on whites?

    Got ‘race superiority based on skin color’s a human disease’?

  211. Voter says:
    @Patricus

    Polls are not polls. They are fabricated propaganda machines, nothing more. They are designed to influence those with no functioning cause and effect genes. The only beings, not necessarily human, that pay attention to the polls, are the gimme free stuff and I’ll vote for you crowd.

  212. Charlemagne says: • Website
    @animalogic

    Really, them awful police are killing all those perfectly innocent folks minding their own business. Fuggin’ criminal.

  213. Trumpeter says: • Website
    @WorkingClass

    They called it parition in India/Pakistan. Pitchforks and bayonets.

  214. Vet says:
    @renfro

    “Then we have the equally stupid gun rights ‘deplorables’ who think they need a assault rifle to protect themselves from the government….as if the military wouldn’t mow them down in a hot second if they staged a revolution.”

    Yeah, just like we did in Afghanistan…oh, wait…

  215. Noman says:

    White nationalists supporting Trump?
    The President who moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem?
    The President that “gave” Syria’s Golan Heights to Israel?
    Whose daughter is married to a Jew and who converted(?) to a Jewess.
    Something’s not Kosher.
    White Zionists, maybe.

  216. @Zumbuddi

    The populace need not remain a slave to media– that we can choose to ignore, unplug

    Unplug the electric Jew!!!

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