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Ahed Tamimi confronting an Israeli soldier on an earlier occasion. Photo by Haim Schwarczenberg.
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After a video came out this week of two young Palestinian women slapping Israeli soldiers in the occupied village of Nabi Saleh, the Israeli leftwing group Peace Now tweeted that the soldiers were “heroes” for not responding violently, and issued a statement commending the soldiers for “demonstrating moral fortitude in the face of an attempted stunt to blacken Israel’s image.”

The day those women slapped the soldiers, their 14-year-old cousin was shot in the face by Israeli soldiers, blood pouring from his head “like a fountain,” and he had to undergo a lengthy operation.

Peace Now didn’t say anything about that.

Both young women were later arrested. The 16-year-old, Ahed Tamimi, faces a possibly lengthy sentence so that Israel can maintain its honor. Peace Now has not issued a statement about that.

I find this so dispiriting it is hard to put one word after another. But people should know: this is the world Zionism made. In which a leftwing organization cares about Jewish soldiers maintaining their honor and purity of arms; and has nothing to say about human rights violations against an occupied, subject people.

This is a story about Jewish identity being rooted in trauma; and how long will it take us to overcome that trauma?

The Palestinian experience today is a lot like the Jewish experience of pogroms 100 years ago and more in eastern Europe. As Jews were beaten and killed by marauding gangs with the blessing of the state — American Jews were not silent. Jews acted. Our leaders went to the White House. Important Jewish organizations were formed. The most powerful Jew in the world, the banker Jacob Schiff, supported the Russian revolution because he so hated the czar. The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

Today millions of Palestinians under occupation are being humiliated, deprived of freedom, their children given no chance to dream of a better life… and the leftwing Zionist organization says a 16-year-old Palestinian woman whose cousin was maimed and who slapped a soldier in the courtyard of her house is carrying out a stunt.

Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.”

Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

These Jewish colonies and their military escort have inflicted endless trauma on the subject population. Ahed Tamimi is plainly traumatized; she has been subject to violence again and again in her short life.

Two years ago Ahed Tamimi famously tried to protect her brother from an Israeli soldier.

Ahed Tamimi, left, August 28, 2015.  (Photo: Mohamad Torokman/Reuters)
Ahed Tamimi, left, August 28, 2015. (Photo: Mohamad Torokman/Reuters)

Two years later she is a young woman put in jail for slapping Israeli soldiers in her village.

Ahed Tamimi in military court this morning, from Tali Shapiro’s twitter feed.
Ahed Tamimi in military court this morning, from Tali Shapiro’s twitter feed.

And Peace Now cries out about the Israeli soldiers:

The occupation is destroying Israel!

And Americans for Peace Now, the strongest liberal Zionist group, retweets the statement.

The occupation surely is destroying Israel spiritually. But who is it actually destroying, Palestinians. Liberal and leftwing American Jews have known this forever.

Seven years ago video of a Palestinian boy running after his father as Israeli police dragged the father away for allegedly stealing water from Jewish colonists inside occupied territory gained international attention, and then too Israel said the footage was staged– and Peter Beinart wrote a book partially inspired by that moment, The Crisis of Zionism.

And nothing changes. The Jews stay in crisis, and the Palestinian children get older– and more traumatized.

The only question is why Jews do not act? Why, given this endless evidence of persecution, haven’t Beinart and Peace Now come out for something stronger to break the occupation? Does Palestinian human wreckage count for anything?

These liberals mock the idea of bearing witness. Americans for Peace Now is still on the board of AIPAC. It could quit tomorrow and send a message. It doesn’t. And I understand calls for partition. Nationalism is a dangerous force. But partition efforts have crumbled for 70 years, and the last 25 years of earnest effort have been a miserable failure. It is not enough to call for partition.

Palestinians like Ahed Tamimi have called on Americans to support boycott of Israel, the tool that has been used on countless occasions in our progressive history to stirring effect– lately over transgender access to bathrooms in North Carolina. But Jewish Voice for Peace is the only large Jewish group to support boycott, and JVP is renegade; a leader of the official Jewish community, Jeffrey Goldberg, smears JVP for having a “homicidal impulse” for Israel; and he gets away with it.

Because at some deep level older Jews are committed to the idea of a Jewish state as some historical compensation for the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust. That’s an understandable desire, to gain some amendment from the world’s powers for the horrors of the last century.

But it comes down ultimately to a matter of selfishness in the formation of identity. How safe are we today in the west? Safe, and empowered. On what terms are we safe? Democratic principles of equality for all persons. Even Bannon and Trump’s indulgence of anti-Semites has done nothing to curb our powers.

That is the modern Jewish condition; but we cannot acknowledge it, let alone the Palestinians’ condition. No, we are traumatized; so we insist that a girl living right now in an occupied village with no future is somehow on an equal footing with a heavily-armed occupying soldier, who is there to keep her family from going to its spring and who when his three years is up and he’s done his one year decompensation smoking dope in India will go to the Technion and then participate in a tech startup while his little brother replaces him in armor.

This is so dispiriting it can’t be expressed in words. Every young American Jew who goes home for the new year needs to talk to their parents about the persecution of Ahed Tamimi. It is only happening with American Jews’ blessing.

Thanks to Allison Deger.

(Republished from MondoWeiss by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time. Is it not delusional to believe that tiny Israel will forever be able to dominate the Middle East which is inhabited by over 300 million Arabs, mostly young. Add to that Persian Iran, Israel’s arch-enemy of 70 millions, and the remainder one billion Muslims in North Africa and Asia.
    Americans at present do not give a damn about Palestinians and Muslims, but there is no guaranty that they would not regard Israel in the same fashion at some point in the future.
    So, yes, young American Jews should talk to their parents about the persecution of Ahed Tamimi, and the murder and maiming of thousands of children like her at the hands of heavily armed occupying Israeli soldiers.

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    said:
    "This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time."

    Laughable. There was / is no such thing. Zionist lies have been & are the problem.
    Lying Zionist author Weiss said:

    "Because at some deep level older Jews are committed to the idea of a Jewish state as some historical compensation for the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust. That’s an understandable desire, to gain some amendment from the world’s powers for the horrors of the last century."
     

    There was no '6M Jews' except when they started trying that fake crap in 1869, see below.
    Jews have been faking the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    , @Colleen Pater
    As usual you try and approach a problem from a conservative and reasonable perspective and it all wrong.
    First error is your assumption that jews and arabs can live in peace in the same state. as heartiste says Diversity plus proximity equals war.I know plenty of muslims and I even think they are less of a threat to my people than are the jews, but as you should know when they are honest they will tell you the entire middle east must be muslim and that particularly means to them Israel must be no more. So any inch you give them is an inch in the direction of your eventual destruction. The actual solution is to evict every last arab, you can never be worse off, just like you want every white dead they want every jew dead.
    But your even stupider error is the moral underpinning of of why you should act in ways that will destroy israel. Because evil whites pogroms you in the past and it made you mad enough to conspire with the jewish political philosophy of marxism running a jewish led revolution of terror on white nations that murdered an order of magnitude more than hitler ever did._ and so you ought to have learned something about sharing from the pogroms ( not of course learned from the murderous communism you are still perpetuating under the rebranding of cultural marxism/multiculturalism that led to the world wars and your near destruction). You seem to have learned nothing what you should have learned from history is diversity plus proximity equals war. what you should have learned is that jews make really bad neighbors and eventually try their hosts patience until they are forced to leave, but your reputation precedes you and no one wants you, and then your strategy of saving the resources of building and maintaining a nation of your own and instead parasitizing others nations while using your resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations, becomes a fatal error. You seem finally to have figured this out and founded an actual nation in an appreciate geographical place.all you semites are are wandering camel jockeys but jewish claim to the area is at least written and thousands of years old if you think shit like that matters. It doesnt. power to take and hold is the only moral right to ownership there is, under your deluded reasoning italy would own the mideast and americans would have to surrender to red skins. right is might. israel owns israel and has the power to evivt the remains muslims and ought to because our patience in the west is once again exhausted with your little white privilege game your days are numbered rather not have to re open the camps just pack you on planes with your stocks and bonds and wave goodbye. but one way or another whites are waking up to who is behind the leftism that has destroyed us and it wont be long before youre asked to leave
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    Do you really think for half a second that Phil Weiss wringing his hands about the obvious conflicts of Zionism is actually going to change anything here? A few names might bring you to your senses: Saban, Adelman, Kushner, Miller, Gordon, Friedman, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Zuckerman, Marcus...
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  2. Miliia18 says:

    One Israeli state that includes the West Bank Allow the Palestinians to become citizens. What’s more likely is a fake Palestinian authority, beatings, expulsions, land theft, military detention, and eventual full ethnic cleansing. A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950′s.

    Most Jews are only concerned with Jewish suffering. No one else matters. If you don’t believe me count the number of Hollywood movies that concern Palestinian suffering under Jewish occupation in the West Bank.

    ZERO

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    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
    Actually there is one that touches on the suffering of the Palestinians,"Miral", produced by Weinstein.

    There is a conspiracy theory out there some where, that all the accusations against Weinstein are largely payback for his "treason" against the tribe in producing and releasing that movie.

    , @anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.
    , @Ace
    . . . as any Southerner or Northener was toward blacks in the 1950′s.

    FIFY.

    Cracker?

    , @OilcanFloyd

    A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950′s.
     
    Thart sounds good, and I've heard such claims often, but American blacks were never threatened with expulsion, genocide, or war, in any section of the nation. Neither the U.S. military nor the state or national guards were turned loose on blacks. However bad life for blacks in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes, routine torture sanctioned by the state, blockafes, etc, as the Palestinians face at the hands of Israel, all of which is largely supported by American Jews.
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  4. utu says:

    Perhaps you are setting too high standard on Israelis.

    If you slapped a cop in the US most Americans would accept you being subsequently shot as justified.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    America is indeed different from other First World countries, not least in its attitudes to the use of violence and guns in particular, but I would be interested in what evidence or argument you could muster to support that view. I think you raise the bar for justification when you say "subsequently". I can see some possibility of "self-defence" if the girl was throwing herself at the soldier (especialy a female as in the picture) and, after being fended off with the barrel of the gun made another rush at the soldier or grabbed the barrel. Otherwise no excuse for shooting a lone attacker.
    , @Realist
    The Israeli is not a cop. She is military and does not belong in Palestine
    , @Anon
    Most Americans would say they had it coming if they shot your family in the face.
    , @O'stein
    More like a Ukranian girl slapping a Russion soldier after he shoots her dad- what would you do if an enemy soldier shot your loved one?
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  5. MarkinPNW says:
    @Miliia18
    One Israeli state that includes the West Bank Allow the Palestinians to become citizens. What's more likely is a fake Palestinian authority, beatings, expulsions, land theft, military detention, and eventual full ethnic cleansing. A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950's.

    Most Jews are only concerned with Jewish suffering. No one else matters. If you don't believe me count the number of Hollywood movies that concern Palestinian suffering under Jewish occupation in the West Bank.

    ZERO

    Actually there is one that touches on the suffering of the Palestinians,”Miral”, produced by Weinstein.

    There is a conspiracy theory out there some where, that all the accusations against Weinstein are largely payback for his “treason” against the tribe in producing and releasing that movie.

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    MarkinPNW:

    The old trope that holds for Weinstein's producing Miral: No good deed ever goes unpunished!

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  6. Wally says: • Website
    @RealAmerican
    This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time. Is it not delusional to believe that tiny Israel will forever be able to dominate the Middle East which is inhabited by over 300 million Arabs, mostly young. Add to that Persian Iran, Israel's arch-enemy of 70 millions, and the remainder one billion Muslims in North Africa and Asia.
    Americans at present do not give a damn about Palestinians and Muslims, but there is no guaranty that they would not regard Israel in the same fashion at some point in the future.
    So, yes, young American Jews should talk to their parents about the persecution of Ahed Tamimi, and the murder and maiming of thousands of children like her at the hands of heavily armed occupying Israeli soldiers.

    said:
    “This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time.”

    Laughable. There was / is no such thing. Zionist lies have been & are the problem.
    Lying Zionist author Weiss said:

    “Because at some deep level older Jews are committed to the idea of a Jewish state as some historical compensation for the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust. That’s an understandable desire, to gain some amendment from the world’s powers for the horrors of the last century.”

    There was no ’6M Jews’ except when they started trying that fake crap in 1869, see below.
    Jews have been faking the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://www.codoh.com

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    Bravo Wally.

    I might add that he shouldn't be coming to Europeans peddling his "pity the Palestinians" on one hand while propagating the eternal holocaust guilt meme on the other.

    If the Palestinians want to throw Germany under the anti-semite hate bus, then they should expect the same treatment in return.
    , @Anonymous
    Thanks, Wally. I was waiting for your post. The holocaust is not a proven fact and should not be passed off as one!
    , @anarchyst
    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD THEY KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would they build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not "add up"...

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the "yellow Star of David" armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE "KANGAROO COURTS" THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you "holocaust ™" promoters--why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews' declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a "gas chamber" chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these "camps".

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of methylene blue in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the "chimney" for the supposed "gas chamber" does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were "liberated" by the "allies", the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be "liberated" by the Russian "allies".

    I urge those "holocaust ™" believers to check these things out for yourselves--IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find...
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  7. anon • Disclaimer says:

    All I know is that Israel has been nothing but trouble and bad news for America since its founding. If only America could just wash its hands of this whole mess.

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    Let's do a thought experiment:

    Imagine if Israel didn't exist. Or if Truman had heeded the advice of his own State Department and not recognized the Jewish State. (We'll leave alone for the moment the problem, at the time and in the minds of some in the U.S. at the time the consequences of probable Soviet recognition of Zion.) Imagine if we had not bailed them out as we did, well, numerous times? Imagine if Israel was not there.

    Would we even care, really, about the Middle East at all? (Aside from Energy that is, and we are producing more and more in house.) And would the people in the Middle East (and elsewhere) be hating our guts to the same extent? Would we have the same radical Islam? Would we be pissing away treasure and blood, year after year after year, to no good purpose and with no end in sight? Would we have even started? Would we be in as deep a financial hole as we are now?

    Would we have to the same extent the erosions of freedoms we experience now? Would we have the TSA?

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don't jump up and say something. Just think about it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

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  8. And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran that will only benefit Israel and destroy the USA.

    It makes me sick to my stomach that we have allowed the Jews to manipulate us to the point that our corrupt government cares more about Israel than the American people that are supposed to serve.

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    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @n230099
    "...And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran..."

    Let's fix that:

    And soon the dumbest of the dumb American young men will die in a war against Iran.

    Until Americans say, no, we will no longer participate in this nonsense, the dumb will keep dying. On the bright side at least they're not in the way here.
    , @Low Voltage
    It might be that both Israel and the "United States" (actually the Confederacy, since the South and the British eventually won the civil war) are both just provinces of the British Empire.
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  9. Dan Hayes says:
    @MarkinPNW
    Actually there is one that touches on the suffering of the Palestinians,"Miral", produced by Weinstein.

    There is a conspiracy theory out there some where, that all the accusations against Weinstein are largely payback for his "treason" against the tribe in producing and releasing that movie.

    MarkinPNW:

    The old trope that holds for Weinstein’s producing Miral: No good deed ever goes unpunished!

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  10. Good propaganda does not tell lies, but tells just the facts that suit the propagandist.
    Around 1800 Poland was divided, not for the first time, the majority of world jewry came to live in tsarist Russia, five million.
    Around 1900 was the tenth resignation of the tsarist assimilation committee.
    Around the same date count Witte said to Herzl that he would gladly drown five million jews in the Black Sea, but it could not be done.

    Solsjenytsyn, in his last published book, he waited with publication till his death was near, for obvious reasons, explains how jews in Russia resisted all attempts at assimilation.
    Alas there is just a german translation of the book.
    Dutch journalists interviewed Solsjenytsyn shortly before his death, and wrote an article in which they stated ‘that the book had caused great irritation in the west’.

    They did not write that the book contains lies, the book resembles Mearsheimer and Walt on AIPAC, the number of references is unbelievable.
    Many are from jewish sources, such as a jewish encyclopedia.
    It is interesting to see how this encyclopedia follows Orwell’s ’1984′, whenever it seems necessary the facts are changed.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Indeed, the east European Jewish shtetls of 19th century wer akin the Arab ghettoes in western Europe today. It is unfortunate that the ancient animosity between these two blood cousins, Jews and Arabs, has saddled the US and EU with enormous problems.
    , @Anon
    "Solsjenytsyn, in his last published book, he waited with publication till his death was near, for obvious reasons, explains how jews in Russia resisted all attempts at assimilation."
    The world would have been a much safer place if the truth about the "most moral" and "most victimized" were widely available in print. The hard facts afford no place for the mythology of ziocons.
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  11. BozoB says:

    Is it possible that there is a style of life characteristic of each of these peoples and that the subordination of the Palestinians is therefore as close to inevitable as was the westward push of Native Americans by the European newcomers?

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    Is it possible that there is a style of life characteristic of each of these peoples and that the subordination of the Palestinians is therefore as close to inevitable as was the westward push of Native Americans by the European newcomers?

    BozoB,

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews. Your statement is a lie. The ME belongs to Middle Eastern people.

    The world sees the Palestinians as the good guys - they are the guys with right on their side. The Jews are disparaged because they disserve it. The Jews had the world on their side after WWII - but they squandered those good feelings with the mean way they have treated the Palestinians.

    The US Jews are responsible for all this.

    Does that mean you BozoB?

    Think Peace --- Art
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  12. @utu
    Perhaps you are setting too high standard on Israelis.

    If you slapped a cop in the US most Americans would accept you being subsequently shot as justified.

    America is indeed different from other First World countries, not least in its attitudes to the use of violence and guns in particular, but I would be interested in what evidence or argument you could muster to support that view. I think you raise the bar for justification when you say “subsequently”. I can see some possibility of “self-defence” if the girl was throwing herself at the soldier (especialy a female as in the picture) and, after being fended off with the barrel of the gun made another rush at the soldier or grabbed the barrel. Otherwise no excuse for shooting a lone attacker.

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    My comment was alluding to attitudes among Americans to killings by the the law enforcement. The "self-defence" and "fear for life" is almost always successfully invoked. Over 1000 are killed per year. Only 0.3% of cops are convicted of some crime. 99.7% are never charged or are acquitted by the jury of their peers who believes that killing was justified because of "self-defence" and "fear for life."

    One example:

    'Please don't kill me': Cop is cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father, 26, as he crawled along a hotel corridor in shocking footage which his family insists shows a 'cold-blooded execution'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5157957/Ex-Arizona-police-officer-acquitted-fatal-hotel-shooting.html#ixzz52D6z9tuq
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  13. Realist says:
    @utu
    Perhaps you are setting too high standard on Israelis.

    If you slapped a cop in the US most Americans would accept you being subsequently shot as justified.

    The Israeli is not a cop. She is military and does not belong in Palestine

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    Jordan occupies 78% of "paLiestine"
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  14. Karl says:

    5 MarkinPNW > one that touches on the suffering of the Palestinians,”Miral”, produced by Weinstein

    he told me that he did that flick for the sake of getting a few new pieces of ass

    I’ve done quite a bit of time at US military bases in the PNW, and you are pretty cuck’d if you choose to live there. Maybe you’d like to emigrate to Sweden next?

    By the way, the blond chick is in the uniform of a cop, not a soldier.

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  15. Logan says:

    Blonde Palestinians? Who knew?

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    Yeah, if people did know, they might be more sympathetic. Therefore, the usual suspects make sure we don't.
    , @The Alarmist
    Oy vey! They're both blonde shiksa-looking types. Meanwhile, in in Miss Universe we get something like this:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42009879

    Must be propaganda. Yeah, I know. Miss Iraq isn't a Palestinian. Didn't see a Miss Palestine anywhere. Maybe they should send Miss Tamimi.
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  16. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Close to 200 nations in the world, yet all we hear about–in the West–on a daily basis is how Israel reacted to this or how Netanyahu views that or will Israel invade Lebanon AGAIN or maybe bomb Iran.

    I for one am sick and tired of hearing constantly the whining, self-pitying, war mongering and aggrandizement coming from Israel and her Jewish supporters.

    It’s like we’re all trapped in a lunatic asylum with the biggest loony always babbling about how their pain is the only pain that counts.

    No wonder Jews have been kicked out of over 100 nations over the centuries.

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    http://www.achgut.com/

    Michael Wolffsohn über den Judenhass-Import-Weltmeister

    Translation 'Wolfssohn on the record holder of importing hate against jews'.
    I suppose he is targeting Merkel.

    Muslim immigrants to Germany demonstrated against Israel, burning Israeli flags.
    Wolffsohn, of jewish descent, complains about the German government, looking the other way.
    He says a diagnosis is needed, then complains that a state should protect all its citizens.
    The flabbergasting thing is how this obviously well educated man is unable to diagnose the reason for Muslim hatred against Israel.
    , @Druid
    Me too. Totally agree!
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  17. Logan says:

    Clearly the Israelis are showing great cultural sensitivity by applying the Arab Muslims’ own rules for treating the conquered, reducing them to dhimmitude.

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    Ha. Well said. Israel leads the way in demonstrating the correct way to avoid ethnic and racial inundation, i.e., national suicide. Only sappy non-Jewish Westerners worship foreigners and minorities and actively hand over their countries and their lives to them. What is infuriating about non-Israeli institutional Jewery is that they beaver away Barbara Lerner Specter-fashion to arrange for host nations what is anathema for them where the nation of Israel is concerned.

    I have no fondness for Israel. They sought to set up shop in a hostile area trumpeting nonsense about some kind of ancestral entitlement and took what they wanted in the time honored ways employed by practically every other nation on earth. They and their American supporters play the U.S. like a one-note ukulele and personal piggy bank to help them hang on to it. Inter alia.

    That said, it's downright delicious to see them serve up a heaping, steaming helping of unadulterated dhimmitude for the enjoyment of their Muslim population, that which Muslims jammed down the throats of surviving infidels throughout 1400 years of conquest, rape, and slaughter. Arabs P&M about a postage stamp-sized nation in the M.E. while sitting on half a continent of land their ancestors stole. Cry me a river.

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  18. wayfarer says:

    Israel, the self-serving trust-fund nation has sealed its karmic fate. Having made the same mistake as the Nazis, the Zionists too have tried to bite off way more than they could possibly ever chew.

    Greed. You had it all, but that just wasn’t good enough for your spoiled privileged children.

    Humanity, knows all too well of your selfish cold-blooded crimes and your absolute guilt.

    It’s now only a matter of time, before a cosmic tide begins to slowly sweep this toxic Zionist ideology from the face of the Earth.

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  19. n230099 says:
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran that will only benefit Israel and destroy the USA.

    It makes me sick to my stomach that we have allowed the Jews to manipulate us to the point that our corrupt government cares more about Israel than the American people that are supposed to serve.

    “…And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran…”

    Let’s fix that:

    And soon the dumbest of the dumb American young men will die in a war against Iran.

    Until Americans say, no, we will no longer participate in this nonsense, the dumb will keep dying. On the bright side at least they’re not in the way here.

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    So those misled American guys deserve to die for "that shitty little country", 'Israel'?

    You come off as a faltering Zionist.

    https://i2.wp.com/radioislam.org/holo/HOLO_fichiers/ship_sinking.gif

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  20. Bill Jones says: • Website

    They are Jews what do you expect?

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  21. Renoman says:

    In any group of 100 people anywhere in the World 99 will hate the Jews and 100 will hate the Arabs. Just let them go at it and get it over with, nobody cares.

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    , nobody cares.
     
    LOL! So says, presumably, a white satanist, whose kind has been wantonly executing its limitless Greed and Psychopathy around the world.

    Comeuppance for all that, including your "nobody cares" attitude, will be forthcoming.

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  22. Zionism is an elitist cult that worships satan and is driving for a world government that is controlled by the Zionists and we goyim are just cattle to be slaughtered in wars for the benefit of Israel and their god satan.

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  23. @RealAmerican
    This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time. Is it not delusional to believe that tiny Israel will forever be able to dominate the Middle East which is inhabited by over 300 million Arabs, mostly young. Add to that Persian Iran, Israel's arch-enemy of 70 millions, and the remainder one billion Muslims in North Africa and Asia.
    Americans at present do not give a damn about Palestinians and Muslims, but there is no guaranty that they would not regard Israel in the same fashion at some point in the future.
    So, yes, young American Jews should talk to their parents about the persecution of Ahed Tamimi, and the murder and maiming of thousands of children like her at the hands of heavily armed occupying Israeli soldiers.

    As usual you try and approach a problem from a conservative and reasonable perspective and it all wrong.
    First error is your assumption that jews and arabs can live in peace in the same state. as heartiste says Diversity plus proximity equals war.I know plenty of muslims and I even think they are less of a threat to my people than are the jews, but as you should know when they are honest they will tell you the entire middle east must be muslim and that particularly means to them Israel must be no more. So any inch you give them is an inch in the direction of your eventual destruction. The actual solution is to evict every last arab, you can never be worse off, just like you want every white dead they want every jew dead.
    But your even stupider error is the moral underpinning of of why you should act in ways that will destroy israel. Because evil whites pogroms you in the past and it made you mad enough to conspire with the jewish political philosophy of marxism running a jewish led revolution of terror on white nations that murdered an order of magnitude more than hitler ever did._ and so you ought to have learned something about sharing from the pogroms ( not of course learned from the murderous communism you are still perpetuating under the rebranding of cultural marxism/multiculturalism that led to the world wars and your near destruction). You seem to have learned nothing what you should have learned from history is diversity plus proximity equals war. what you should have learned is that jews make really bad neighbors and eventually try their hosts patience until they are forced to leave, but your reputation precedes you and no one wants you, and then your strategy of saving the resources of building and maintaining a nation of your own and instead parasitizing others nations while using your resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations, becomes a fatal error. You seem finally to have figured this out and founded an actual nation in an appreciate geographical place.all you semites are are wandering camel jockeys but jewish claim to the area is at least written and thousands of years old if you think shit like that matters. It doesnt. power to take and hold is the only moral right to ownership there is, under your deluded reasoning italy would own the mideast and americans would have to surrender to red skins. right is might. israel owns israel and has the power to evivt the remains muslims and ought to because our patience in the west is once again exhausted with your little white privilege game your days are numbered rather not have to re open the camps just pack you on planes with your stocks and bonds and wave goodbye. but one way or another whites are waking up to who is behind the leftism that has destroyed us and it wont be long before youre asked to leave

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    I was disheartened a little after reading the Saker's most recent column, "The Mindset of an Ideological Drone", which should be coming your way soon. No longer.
    , @Anon
    "...using resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations..."
    In pictures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg
    "The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior. In this movie, we show the life cycle of this amazing predator, which ends in a slow horrifying death of the cockroach."
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  24. Heros says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time."

    Laughable. There was / is no such thing. Zionist lies have been & are the problem.
    Lying Zionist author Weiss said:

    "Because at some deep level older Jews are committed to the idea of a Jewish state as some historical compensation for the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust. That’s an understandable desire, to gain some amendment from the world’s powers for the horrors of the last century."
     

    There was no '6M Jews' except when they started trying that fake crap in 1869, see below.
    Jews have been faking the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Bravo Wally.

    I might add that he shouldn’t be coming to Europeans peddling his “pity the Palestinians” on one hand while propagating the eternal holocaust guilt meme on the other.

    If the Palestinians want to throw Germany under the anti-semite hate bus, then they should expect the same treatment in return.

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  25. Brabantian says: • Website

    Chronological maps, viciously expanding Israel, shrinking Palestine

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    actually UNR 181 remains the only recognized borders - everything else is a temp. armistice lime
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  26. Che Guava says:

    Merry Christmas, y’al!l Apologies to Mr. Weiss, will reading in detail tomorrow.

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  27. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @utu
    Perhaps you are setting too high standard on Israelis.

    If you slapped a cop in the US most Americans would accept you being subsequently shot as justified.

    Most Americans would say they had it coming if they shot your family in the face.

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  28. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan
    Blonde Palestinians? Who knew?

    Yeah, if people did know, they might be more sympathetic. Therefore, the usual suspects make sure we don’t.

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  29. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Renoman
    In any group of 100 people anywhere in the World 99 will hate the Jews and 100 will hate the Arabs. Just let them go at it and get it over with, nobody cares.

    , nobody cares.

    LOL! So says, presumably, a white satanist, whose kind has been wantonly executing its limitless Greed and Psychopathy around the world.

    Comeuppance for all that, including your “nobody cares” attitude, will be forthcoming.

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  30. MEexpert says:

    The only question is why Jews do not act?

    No, the only question is why don’t the Muslims act? The rich Gulf monarchies have sold out their souls to the Jewish and American masters. They are only interested in saving their hides. Palestinians and other suffering Muslims be damned.

    Why, given this endless evidence of persecution, haven’t Beinart and Peace Now come out for something stronger to break the occupation?

    They are under no obligation to do that. They tried and see what happened. Bannon is out of the White House. This is the power of the Jewish Lobby.

    Does Palestinian human wreckage count for anything?

    It hasn’t so far. Palestinians have been killed and displaced from their homes for the past 70 years. The Arab monarchies have only provided some lip service to the Palestinian cause. Their own leader, Mahmood Abbas, is on Israeli pay roll. His term expired long time ago but he is kept in place by Israel so that he can control the Palestinians in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza.

    My only concern is the US policy towards Palestine. With all the talk of human rights and Responsibility to Protect, when it comes to Palestine, the US remains silent. I know the American people are getting fed up with the Israeli control over their politicians but they are powerless to do anything about it. Unless that hold is broken, nothing will be achieved in the Middle East. There will be wars and more wars , instigated by Israel and funded by the US. Israel/US/Saudi Arabia can always fund and arm another ISIS or Al-Qaeda to shed more innocent Muslim blood.

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    No, the only question is why don’t the Muslims act?

     

    Try this.:

    I know the American people are getting fed up with the Israeli control over their politicians but they are powerless to do anything about it.
     
    , @Anon
    "Israel/US/Saudi Arabia can always fund and arm another ISIS or Al-Qaeda...."
    -- That funding/arming never stopped:
    http://theantimedia.org/congresswoman-us-funds-isis-syria/
    https://www.wired.com/story/terror-industrial-complex-isis-munitions-supply-chain/
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  31. Wally says: • Website
    @n230099
    "...And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran..."

    Let's fix that:

    And soon the dumbest of the dumb American young men will die in a war against Iran.

    Until Americans say, no, we will no longer participate in this nonsense, the dumb will keep dying. On the bright side at least they're not in the way here.

    So those misled American guys deserve to die for “that shitty little country”, ‘Israel’?

    You come off as a faltering Zionist.

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  32. Z-man says:

    First, Jews, Zionists et al, are hypocrites. That’s it.

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  33. The day those women slapped the soldiers, their 14-year-old cousin was shot in the face by Israeli soldiers, blood pouring from his head “like a fountain,” and he had to undergo a lengthy operation.

    Peace Now didn’t say anything about that.

    that, ladies and gentlemen, is the perfect example of an attempt at controlled narrative.

    I hope it will help you guys spot the same crap in the future.

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  34. JustJeff says:

    So the Palestinians are all just actors? Well that explains the whole occupation. Jews keep the Palestinians locked up in the West Bank and Gaza so they don’t go to Hollywood and threaten Jewish dominance there.

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  35. O'stein says:
    @utu
    Perhaps you are setting too high standard on Israelis.

    If you slapped a cop in the US most Americans would accept you being subsequently shot as justified.

    More like a Ukranian girl slapping a Russion soldier after he shoots her dad- what would you do if an enemy soldier shot your loved one?

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    Is it on the Kolomoyskyi planet that a Russian soldier shoots an Ukrainian’s father? Because on this planet it was the shell of the Zionists supported and financed Ukrainian Nazis which has blown half the head off a 16-year old Russian speaking Ukrainian girl. She could not slap anyone.

    It is the usual alternative reality of the Zionist scumbags.
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  36. This an interesting article; it seems strange in several ways, conflagration of several issues, a tacit endorsement of any claim of local citizenship on any family lines that weren’t there as a result of zionist activities from 1850, and/or non-Middle Eastern ethnicities, i.e. Khazar descent (which would include over 95% of the ‘jews’ living in the Palestinian lands), among others.

    The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed (easily available by an internet search using title and author), is a pragmatic, non-biased review and analysis of the history of the current incarnation of this sect.
    Reading “The Controversy of Zion” would better place the context of this article and the numerous otherwise misleading allusions and claims.

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  37. @Greg Bacon
    Close to 200 nations in the world, yet all we hear about--in the West--on a daily basis is how Israel reacted to this or how Netanyahu views that or will Israel invade Lebanon AGAIN or maybe bomb Iran.

    I for one am sick and tired of hearing constantly the whining, self-pitying, war mongering and aggrandizement coming from Israel and her Jewish supporters.

    It's like we're all trapped in a lunatic asylum with the biggest loony always babbling about how their pain is the only pain that counts.

    No wonder Jews have been kicked out of over 100 nations over the centuries.

    http://www.achgut.com/

    Michael Wolffsohn über den Judenhass-Import-Weltmeister

    Translation ‘Wolfssohn on the record holder of importing hate against jews’.
    I suppose he is targeting Merkel.

    Muslim immigrants to Germany demonstrated against Israel, burning Israeli flags.
    Wolffsohn, of jewish descent, complains about the German government, looking the other way.
    He says a diagnosis is needed, then complains that a state should protect all its citizens.
    The flabbergasting thing is how this obviously well educated man is unable to diagnose the reason for Muslim hatred against Israel.

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    Yeah, well these Muslim migrants also hate indigenous Germans and did worse things than just burning some German flags.

    Muslim migrants celebrated New Years even in Cologne Germany by getting drunk and sexually attacking, gang raping local German girls.

    OK

    Other Muslim migrants expressed their hatred of indigenous Germans by running a large truck over a German Christmas market and murdering lots of Germans.

    I doubt if many, any of these Arab migrant rapists/murderers of Germans in Germany were Palestinian Arabs motivated by just causes - most were Algerian, Afghans etc.

    I hope that clears up some of your confusion.
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  38. mike k says:

    The Jews who dominated the Old Bolsheviks, and murdered and tortured priests and destroyed churches while executing and starving millions weren’t ‘Zionists’ in a crisis – they were Jews… people whose religion teaches that they are meant to teach the world about ‘God’ and dominate the untermenchen.

    If you dig into Zionism you find Judaism, the world’s first Master Race ethos.

    Judaism free to be itself resulted in the genocide of Canaanites, and it causes the persecution of their descendents, the Palestinians and Lebanese today.

    Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim.

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    Really! Seeing how effective it was for Jesus when he won so many hearts and minds after being ''Victimized'' and Kilt, Well then, what's a better thing than "Let's us hijack that. Let's us steal the Victim Card!''

    Sort of like when… Big brother wails on Little brother, and off Little goes to a big sympathy fest, leaving Big to think about it in a corner, ("Well shoot! That didn't work out too good!'')

    But the big brother can't get that kind of sympathy attention so he must learn not to be a gaddamned bully, and things improve, learn to manipulate clever like.

    Not saying' anybody ain't clever, just say'n all that decades of victim imaging, cattle cars rattlin'with loads of raggedy, nashin'of teeth, off to hell, (how bout some new material?)

    Hey, Reminds me ie., what was that when the Grinch ''Stole Christmas'' about then?

    Wouldn't be a real Good story if nobody wants to steal it… !

    M Xmas
    , @Wally
    said:
    "Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim."

    Fabrication indeed.
    They refuse to allow others to live as they wish, yet they invent and accuse others of absurd tales of persecution and 'extermination' against them.

    They are the most racist people on the planet, the most mentally deranged. Hard to imagine at times, but the facts are the facts.
    They are something beyond obnoxious, obscene is perhaps a better description.

    www.codoh.com

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  39. Well, well. The ‘most moral army on earth’ strikes again. When will we ever get tired of subsidizing this sh*t?

    Oh, and Merry Christmas.

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  40. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist
    The Israeli is not a cop. She is military and does not belong in Palestine

    Jordan occupies 78% of “paLiestine”

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    What has that to do with Israeli military presence?
    , @Anon
    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives. Whereas your pompous Mielkovsky (of Polish origin), Moldovan felon Avigdor Lieberman, and other Frenkels coming from families of GULAG organizers in Russia, are imposters of uncertain origin. They are suffering from an oversized lust for money and power and they are never tired of quetching on "eternal victimhood."
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  41. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Miliia18
    One Israeli state that includes the West Bank Allow the Palestinians to become citizens. What's more likely is a fake Palestinian authority, beatings, expulsions, land theft, military detention, and eventual full ethnic cleansing. A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950's.

    Most Jews are only concerned with Jewish suffering. No one else matters. If you don't believe me count the number of Hollywood movies that concern Palestinian suffering under Jewish occupation in the West Bank.

    ZERO

    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.

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    And when one occupying Zionist Jew gets killed in Palestine, it's the 'end of the world' in the MSM, in ZOG, EVERYWHERE!! And god forbid you don't mourn this 'innocent' life!
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    You again. Shouldn’t you stick to one username?
    , @joecbart
    "Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000"

    Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever ideology you subscribe to has nothing to do with it.

    We only get one chance at this life and I weep for all the poor souls listed in your comment.

    However, I am an American and because of our elected representatives unwavering and financial support of the Jewish State, in my opinion, that makes me and my fellow citizen accomplices in the murder and genocide of native people of Palestine.
    , @Anon
    Why don't you factor PNAC and Yinon plan into your list and why don't you ponder for a minute on the spectacular results that were achieved (under the tender care of the Lobby) by the most Christian Bush & Obama & Clinton against the Christian communities in the Middle East?
    "The Clique that Sold Us the Iraq War:" http://zfacts.com/node/297
    "Israel sees Assad winning Syria war, urges more U.S. involvement:" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel/israel-sees-assad-winning-syria-war-urges-more-u-s-involvement-idUSKCN1C81BK
    "Israel Prepares for War in Syria against Iran": http://www.meforum.org/6946/israel-prepares-for-war-in-syria-against-iran--
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  42. @Logan
    Blonde Palestinians? Who knew?

    Oy vey! They’re both blonde shiksa-looking types. Meanwhile, in in Miss Universe we get something like this:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42009879

    Must be propaganda. Yeah, I know. Miss Iraq isn’t a Palestinian. Didn’t see a Miss Palestine anywhere. Maybe they should send Miss Tamimi.

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  43. @Colleen Pater
    As usual you try and approach a problem from a conservative and reasonable perspective and it all wrong.
    First error is your assumption that jews and arabs can live in peace in the same state. as heartiste says Diversity plus proximity equals war.I know plenty of muslims and I even think they are less of a threat to my people than are the jews, but as you should know when they are honest they will tell you the entire middle east must be muslim and that particularly means to them Israel must be no more. So any inch you give them is an inch in the direction of your eventual destruction. The actual solution is to evict every last arab, you can never be worse off, just like you want every white dead they want every jew dead.
    But your even stupider error is the moral underpinning of of why you should act in ways that will destroy israel. Because evil whites pogroms you in the past and it made you mad enough to conspire with the jewish political philosophy of marxism running a jewish led revolution of terror on white nations that murdered an order of magnitude more than hitler ever did._ and so you ought to have learned something about sharing from the pogroms ( not of course learned from the murderous communism you are still perpetuating under the rebranding of cultural marxism/multiculturalism that led to the world wars and your near destruction). You seem to have learned nothing what you should have learned from history is diversity plus proximity equals war. what you should have learned is that jews make really bad neighbors and eventually try their hosts patience until they are forced to leave, but your reputation precedes you and no one wants you, and then your strategy of saving the resources of building and maintaining a nation of your own and instead parasitizing others nations while using your resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations, becomes a fatal error. You seem finally to have figured this out and founded an actual nation in an appreciate geographical place.all you semites are are wandering camel jockeys but jewish claim to the area is at least written and thousands of years old if you think shit like that matters. It doesnt. power to take and hold is the only moral right to ownership there is, under your deluded reasoning italy would own the mideast and americans would have to surrender to red skins. right is might. israel owns israel and has the power to evivt the remains muslims and ought to because our patience in the west is once again exhausted with your little white privilege game your days are numbered rather not have to re open the camps just pack you on planes with your stocks and bonds and wave goodbye. but one way or another whites are waking up to who is behind the leftism that has destroyed us and it wont be long before youre asked to leave

    I was disheartened a little after reading the Saker’s most recent column, “The Mindset of an Ideological Drone”, which should be coming your way soon. No longer.

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  44. iffen says:

    he had to undergo a lengthy operation.

    What was the nationality of the doctors that did the operation? And in which hospital?

    If he wanted a Palestinian doctor, he likely would have had to come to one of the hospitals in my area and line up with all of my fellow rednecks in the emergency room to get treatment by a Palestinian doctor.

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    So, face-shot-- funny; gas oven-- not funny?
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  45. jack ryan says: • Website

    “Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish;”

    I respond:

    No. And that’s a very straight forward answer No.

    The Zionists or just regular Israelies or Jews know there are other options and they are implementing those other options.

    Jews in and out of Israel are strongly working to support the mass Arab Muslim migration invasion, conquest of Europe, Scandinavia, UK, Australia, USA.

    Jews and Muslims worked together for 700 years in Muslim Moor occupied Spain. Jews were expelled or put under the Spanish Inquisition to convert to Catholic Christianity in large part for taking the Arab Muslim Moor side against White Spanish Catholics, for being the Muslim’s tax collectors, selling White girls in to sexual slavery to Arab/Muslims. The Jews are doing pretty much the same thing by dominating the hard core porn industry.

    Israel and Saudi Arabia are now on the same side in all things that count. The Saudi Sunni Islamist Royals don’t care about the Palestinians. Israel and Saudi Arabia accepted basically zero Syrian war refugees. Saudi Arabia, Israel and Jewish Liberals/Jewish Neo Conservatives overwhelmingly supported/funded the mass Muslim migrant invasion of Western Europe.

    So the other options this author doesn’t mention is that Liberal Left/Neo Conservative Jews in the USA will sponsor the Arab Palestinians to move to the USA/Europe where they will join Liberal Left Socialist anti White, anti Christian political movements.

    Muslims elected a Pakistani Muslim Leftist Labor Party mayor of London/Londonstan. Jewish voters in England overwhelmingly voted for this Lib Leftist Pakistani Muslim mayor of London/Londstan.

    It’s just all part of being on the anti White winning team.

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  46. Z-man says:
    @anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.

    And when one occupying Zionist Jew gets killed in Palestine, it’s the ‘end of the world’ in the MSM, in ZOG, EVERYWHERE!! And god forbid you don’t mourn this ‘innocent’ life!

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    The vomiting of Israel onto the people of Palestine was the biggest fuckup since WWII.
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  47. jack ryan says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra
    http://www.achgut.com/

    Michael Wolffsohn über den Judenhass-Import-Weltmeister

    Translation 'Wolfssohn on the record holder of importing hate against jews'.
    I suppose he is targeting Merkel.

    Muslim immigrants to Germany demonstrated against Israel, burning Israeli flags.
    Wolffsohn, of jewish descent, complains about the German government, looking the other way.
    He says a diagnosis is needed, then complains that a state should protect all its citizens.
    The flabbergasting thing is how this obviously well educated man is unable to diagnose the reason for Muslim hatred against Israel.

    Yeah, well these Muslim migrants also hate indigenous Germans and did worse things than just burning some German flags.

    Muslim migrants celebrated New Years even in Cologne Germany by getting drunk and sexually attacking, gang raping local German girls.

    OK

    Other Muslim migrants expressed their hatred of indigenous Germans by running a large truck over a German Christmas market and murdering lots of Germans.

    I doubt if many, any of these Arab migrant rapists/murderers of Germans in Germany were Palestinian Arabs motivated by just causes – most were Algerian, Afghans etc.

    I hope that clears up some of your confusion.

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  48. @anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.

    You again. Shouldn’t you stick to one username?

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  49. Just posted this on another thread about Achilles, but relevant here too:

    On a not unrelated note, but going in the opposite direction, there’s this:

    Of all modern mass movements — national, religious, cultural, colonial — and ancient literature about mass movements, only do Virgil’s Aeneid and Zionism invoke a latter-day return to an ancestral homeland, a claim doubly premised on history and religious revelation. In both cases the claim is preceded by war, holocaust, and the survival of displaced persons who vow to live on, despite the existence of a transcendent racial animus that follows them everywhere, and in both cases it meets with native rejection, accusations of colonialism, terrorism, and reciprocal violence seemingly without end.

    https://eidolon.pub/aeneas-in-palestine-2ef032bca420

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  50. utu says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    America is indeed different from other First World countries, not least in its attitudes to the use of violence and guns in particular, but I would be interested in what evidence or argument you could muster to support that view. I think you raise the bar for justification when you say "subsequently". I can see some possibility of "self-defence" if the girl was throwing herself at the soldier (especialy a female as in the picture) and, after being fended off with the barrel of the gun made another rush at the soldier or grabbed the barrel. Otherwise no excuse for shooting a lone attacker.

    My comment was alluding to attitudes among Americans to killings by the the law enforcement. The “self-defence” and “fear for life” is almost always successfully invoked. Over 1000 are killed per year. Only 0.3% of cops are convicted of some crime. 99.7% are never charged or are acquitted by the jury of their peers who believes that killing was justified because of “self-defence” and “fear for life.”

    One example:

    ‘Please don’t kill me’: Cop is cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father, 26, as he crawled along a hotel corridor in shocking footage which his family insists shows a ‘cold-blooded execution’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5157957/Ex-Arizona-police-officer-acquitted-fatal-hotel-shooting.html#ixzz52D6z9tuq

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    Point taken. Sickening isn't it? Considering some cases in Australia where the mentally ill (white like the victim in the case you link) have been shot by young armed police I think the main conclusion to draw is that young police need to be much much better trained, with every shooting regarded as prima facie a failure especially if fatal.
    , @Ace
    An artfully chosen example. Representative, of course, of the psychopathic American police officer.

    Here's another example of that psychopathy:

    http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/6495337-Video-Ore-trooper-ambushed-at-traffic-stop-suspect-killed/

    With luck the video's still there. It's quite interesting. And that @#$&+*% cop will get away with it!

    This post does have the video:

    http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/10/05/analysis-of-the-oregon-state-patrol-shooting/
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  51. edNels says:
    @mike k
    The Jews who dominated the Old Bolsheviks, and murdered and tortured priests and destroyed churches while executing and starving millions weren’t ‘Zionists’ in a crisis - they were Jews... people whose religion teaches that they are meant to teach the world about ‘God’ and dominate the untermenchen.

    If you dig into Zionism you find Judaism, the world’s first Master Race ethos.

    Judaism free to be itself resulted in the genocide of Canaanites, and it causes the persecution of their descendents, the Palestinians and Lebanese today.

    Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim.

    Really! Seeing how effective it was for Jesus when he won so many hearts and minds after being ”Victimized” and Kilt, Well then, what’s a better thing than “Let’s us hijack that. Let’s us steal the Victim Card!”

    Sort of like when… Big brother wails on Little brother, and off Little goes to a big sympathy fest, leaving Big to think about it in a corner, (“Well shoot! That didn’t work out too good!”)

    But the big brother can’t get that kind of sympathy attention so he must learn not to be a gaddamned bully, and things improve, learn to manipulate clever like.

    Not saying’ anybody ain’t clever, just say’n all that decades of victim imaging, cattle cars rattlin’with loads of raggedy, nashin’of teeth, off to hell, (how bout some new material?)

    Hey, Reminds me ie., what was that when the Grinch ”Stole Christmas” about then?

    Wouldn’t be a real Good story if nobody wants to steal it… !

    M Xmas

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  52. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen
    he had to undergo a lengthy operation.

    What was the nationality of the doctors that did the operation? And in which hospital?

    If he wanted a Palestinian doctor, he likely would have had to come to one of the hospitals in my area and line up with all of my fellow rednecks in the emergency room to get treatment by a Palestinian doctor.

    So, face-shot– funny; gas oven– not funny?

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  53. DB Cooper says:

    Support Eva Bartlett and give voice to the voiceless Palestinians.

    https://ingaza.wordpress.com/

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    Brave woman, Eva, she is also done a lot to expose the Empire's lies about the war in Syria... which, btw, is largely another war for Israel... in this case fought by Wahhabi proxies supported by the ZUS coalition.

    Thanks
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  54. @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    And soon American young men will die in a war against Iran that will only benefit Israel and destroy the USA.

    It makes me sick to my stomach that we have allowed the Jews to manipulate us to the point that our corrupt government cares more about Israel than the American people that are supposed to serve.

    It might be that both Israel and the “United States” (actually the Confederacy, since the South and the British eventually won the civil war) are both just provinces of the British Empire.

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  55. There are so many things wrong with this article I don’t know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss’ sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss’ solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to ‘immigrate’ there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that’s a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they’ve been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people’s lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for ‘notorious antisemitism’, but it didn’t have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler’s rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he’d grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn’t satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the ‘Aryans’.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff’s support of ‘Russian’ Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar’s family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today’s problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn’t the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty — further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson’s idea of national self-determination following WWI — , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn’t claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn’t just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they’d grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was ‘cloud-wealth’, like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a ‘dumb Polack’ lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews… like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus — and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist — because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss’ point is that today’s Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn’t Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I’m sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It’s like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando’s character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they’ve been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can’t be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn’t do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, “If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it ‘right’ and go all the way, but if you feel it’s wrong or not worth doing, don’t do it at all.” It’s like US military involvement since end of WWII. It’s been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it’s not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It’s like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel’s conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he’s being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn’t go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It’s like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss’ is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no ‘good Jews’ or ‘bad Jews’ in the current situation. It’s between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it’s delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US — the ghastly blacks — is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it’d be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. “Better you than me.”

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they’d always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn’t consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can’t turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It’s one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It’s not about ‘racism’ vs ‘anti-racism’. It’s about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It’s not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It’s not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of ‘racism’ whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it’s impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It’s like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can’t have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can’t be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there’s an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading ‘liberal values’) but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

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    Very thought provoking post, although I am not sure that I agree with your entire treatise, but I do with enough of it for me to spend more time thinking about your premise about rejecting the increase of diversity. I do, however, share your dismissal of Weiss' globalist solution.

    Your point that Israel should have either not tried to oust the arabs from Palestine or ousted them all, is correct from a clinical standpoint. However, I have a moral objection (and you noted that) of taking land by imperial force (although history is replete with that), and then doing so by ethnic cleansing in order for the subsequent nation to succeed, irrespective of the plight of those ousted.

    Whether I agree with it or not, your essay is very well written and worthy of deeper consideration. Thank you for that.
    , @utu
    You forgot about the most important part. The creation of the Jewish state whether in Israel or anywhere else (Uganda or Madagascar) should have been permitted under one condition that all Jews would relocate there, i.e., no more diaspora Jews. Jewish state makes only sense if it frees gentiles from all the blessings of having Jews in their own states.

    Hitler saw through Zionism:


    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html
    The Jew's domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
     
    , @mcohen
    Good essay.you did underestimate the power of relegion and that prevented the all out ethnic cleansing.the utopian concept of a holy land meets imperialism.vatican?mecca?
    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.
    , @Anon
    "If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble."
    Right. Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. -- And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.
    , @Presocratic

    [Weiss] fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century. . . [B]ecause so many groups [in the Hapsburg Empire] felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems.

     

    Agree in part with what you say above, but as Peter Drucker persuasively describes in his book, "The New Realities," the Hapsburg Empire exerted a relatively light yoke on the non-Austrian and non-Hungarian nationalities that comprised it. And the most fervent demands for autonomy and eventually independence came not from the lower classes, but instead from the educated middle classes who most benefitted from the Empire's supernational economic program. Drucker writes that the history of the Hapsburg Empire and others shows that "[a]s people become 'westernized,' more affluent, more mobile, more educated, they increasingly become more nationalist."

    After the Hungarians gained political, linguistic and cultural autonomy in 1867, other nationalities -- the Czechs first, then the Italians, the Croats, the Slovenes, the Poles -- began demanding similar treatment. Drucker writes that the enlightened liberal elites in the Empire responded to these pressures in two ways. First, they pursued a policy of "economic development as a supernational bond of unity." And second, they made many concessions to the cultural and political autonomy of the various nationalities. According to Drucker, "Half the universities in the Austrian Empire were non-German: [i.e.,] Hungarian, Czech, Slovenian, Croatian, Polish and Ukranian," the "Austrian parliament accepted any number of languages," and soldiers in the army were free to use their own national languages, other than a few German command words that they were required to learn and use.

    The economic policy was a great success in raising standards of living. Drucker writes that the Czech heartland of Bohemia experienced phenomenal industrial growth after 1870, and by 1914 had equaled Germany and surpassed France in standard of living. Slovenia and Croatia also saw rapid economic growth in that period, as did the area around Cracow, Poland.

    But instead of appeasing the nationalities, affluence and relative political and cultural autonomy only increased the demands for more autonomy and eventually for total independence. Drucker writes that those demands did not originate with the peasants or the proletariat, but instead with the bourgeoisie, "and especially of the educated middle class of merchants, plant managers, professionals," who were the first beneficiaries of economic growth.

    Drucker writes that what happened in British India followed the same pattern. The Brits decided to promote economic development so as to offer Indians tangible benefits of British rule, by constructing railways and ports, creating rural cooperatives and engineering schools, encouraging the export of Indian crops, and founding the Indian Congress that brought together British and educated Indians to implement these policies. The economic and social results were substantial, but politically these efforts spawned the Indian independence movement that in 1947 ousted the British. Almost all leaders of the Independence movement served in the Indian Congress.
    , @Mark Green
    Priss's comments are always interesting, always provocative, and often brilliant.

    Weiss deserves credit for this article but he does end up sounding like a well-meaning, Diaspora Israeli. As Priss correctly notes, Weiss's solutions to the conundrum in Israel/Palestine are ultimately doomed, especially when one considers the persistent and extraordinary levels of Jewish ethnocentrism, Jewish accomplishment and Jewish ambition.

    Jews, I suppose, deserve a nation of their own, if only because they are constantly at war (competing intensely) with their gentile neighbors. Jews act as a separate nation wherever they dwell. Ironically, Jews constantly lecture the world about 'racism'. This is a sad, destructive and ridiculous fraud.

    As for the end of ethno-nationalism, this will never occur in countries that have not been contaminated by Jewish intellectuals (subversives) and Jewish radicals. Thus, the continuity of Chinese, Japanese and Korean societies are certain since Caucasian Jews cannot go into those countries and pose as 'equal citizens'. Ethno-nationalism will endure in cohesive, homogeneous Asian societies (and certainly in tribal Israel) as well as all cultures/societies where Jews are absent. This is human nature speaking.

    Indeed, the case can be made that the modern 'racist' boogeyman concept is largely a Jewish invention. But it may soon die out due to its inherent flaws, contradictions and failures. Only the top-heavy SCOTUS stands in the way of the eventual return of freedom (of association) in America.

    In all due respect to Mr. Weiss, he should do two things if he is to remain credible to those of us in the alt-right community. First, he should stop referring to the 'Holocaust' as the if it is truly the most significant tragedy and defining event in modern history. This is sheer moral fakery.

    The Jewish experience during WWII has been excessively elevated and dramatized for political purposes. As bad as the treatment that some Jews received towards the the end of that gargantuan effort at international, militarized mass murder (this is what wars are) the suffering by humanity during WWII alone probably surpasses the suffering of all Jews in all of human history. For instance, in the 20th century alone, some 240,000,000 human beings perished in wars. Yet the Holocaust narrative wants us only remember Jewish victims. This is Jewish supremacism.

    Indeed, the official 'Holocaust' narrative as presented is a manipulative attempt by organized Jewry to elevate and inject the concept 1) of pure Jewish innocence and 2) unique Jewish suffering into the bloodiest episodes (WWI and WWII) in human history. It deserves a real downgrading. This will not be easy however. Oversized Jewish political power relies heavily on 'The Holocaust'. But an honest reading of history is essential is we are to regain control of our own civilization.

    Tragically, 'The Holocaust' is a modern, Jewish attempt to trivialize non-Jewish suffering and victimhood while simultaneously erasing Jewish culpability for major meltdowns where Jews played a heavy role, including the 'Russian (Jewish) Revolution'.

    The ubiquitous, kosher spin on modern 'history' is also an expression of Jewish supremacism. Their uncompromising mindset has invaded every crevice of Official History in modern America.
    Even Weiss falls into this trap.

    Indeed, the diabolical role that some Jews played in various wars, conflicts, embargos, financial shenanigans and revolutions over the past century makes them, in many respects, fair game. For all their talents, Jews have been an intermittent plague on Western civilization since time immemorial.
    The ascendency of the war-happy neoconservatives is yet another example of this phenomena. Weiss should acknowledge this.

    Lastly, if all Jews are entitled to an automatic 'right to return' to Israel, efforts should be made to encourage all Jews to go live in Israel. Their hyper-ethnocentrism makes them less-than-ideal 'fellow citizens'. And we should insist that Israel finally define its borders. No actual borders gives Israel license to steal more land.

    In the meantime, no Jew should be allowed to hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Their dual loyalties have already caused needless wars and immense suffering in Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. American lives, too, have been lost. Zionism is a political cancer in Washington and beyond. It is part of a criminal enterprise that must be resisted. Millions have perished and millions of more lives are at stake.

    , @OilcanFloyd
    Priss, I think you are naive about Weiss. I don't think he really cares about Palestinians. Hell, he just put their plight on par with the "struggle" for tranny access to restrooms in North Carolina, for God's sake.

    Weiss is posturing, as usual, and is full of crap. What Weiss really cares about is maintaining Jewish power. He differs from Zionists in where he wants the power based, and whom he wishes to occupy.

    Has Weiss ever expressed any concern for the mostly white and Christian soldiers in the American military who are also victims of AIPAC and Jewish power? How about the deceived and fleeced American masses? No, he doesn't really give a damn about them. To view them as a cohesive group with interests of their own would be dangerous, as it would make them equal to Jews.

    When push comes to shove, I seriously doubt that Weiss would wish to see Israel harmed, or Israeli Jews defeated and forced to stay in Palestine for a final stand. He's a tribal Jew to his core. In the end, it's really about what's good for the Jews for Weiss. I don't consider Weiss a fellow American.
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  56. Wally says:
    @mike k
    The Jews who dominated the Old Bolsheviks, and murdered and tortured priests and destroyed churches while executing and starving millions weren’t ‘Zionists’ in a crisis - they were Jews... people whose religion teaches that they are meant to teach the world about ‘God’ and dominate the untermenchen.

    If you dig into Zionism you find Judaism, the world’s first Master Race ethos.

    Judaism free to be itself resulted in the genocide of Canaanites, and it causes the persecution of their descendents, the Palestinians and Lebanese today.

    Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim.

    said:
    “Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim.”

    Fabrication indeed.
    They refuse to allow others to live as they wish, yet they invent and accuse others of absurd tales of persecution and ‘extermination’ against them.

    They are the most racist people on the planet, the most mentally deranged. Hard to imagine at times, but the facts are the facts.
    They are something beyond obnoxious, obscene is perhaps a better description.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    They are something beyond obnoxious, obscene is perhaps a better description.
     
    Those apply and "deranged" comes to mind, but there really are no words sufficient to describe it.

    Books of words hardly scratch the surface, in fact. That's why it's so difficult to explain, and people don't, can't, and won't believe it until they experience it directly.
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  57. Michelle says:

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

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    michelle if it were not for the jews forcing the west to kill 100's of thousands of arabs and making tens of millions homeless THEY WOULD NOT BE ATTACKING US. that is if you really believe the false flag attacks.
    , @Art

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel?
     
    What a shallow understanding of reality.

    Muslims are attacking us because we are killing their people every day all over the world - for the benefit of Israel.

    The US Jews manipulation of our democracy, brought 9/11 to our shores.

    We support the Palestinians because they are the victims of Jew aggression.

    You need to wise up and get a informed.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @white noise
    @Michelle

    Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians.
     
    It's the Palestinians' land, that the Jews stole, by brute force, with the complicity of the British... Get over it? I don't think so. The worst (for Israhell) is yet to come.

    Are you Jewish or just a generic troll?
    , @white noise
    @ Michelle

    "but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you"

    All the terrorist attacks in America and Europe are masterminded and at least partially operated by Mossad, Israel's 'intelligence' agency.

    You're a troll, aren't you?

    , @Anon
    "...but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you."
    --- Yes. They simply arrange the US/EU boys and girls to go to blow others to smithereens (mostly civilians, of all ages) and to become blown to smithereens themselves, occasionally. See the genesis of Iraq war (illegal war of aggression). See the mass slaughter in Libya and Syria (mostly civilians, of all ages). And do not forget the targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. By the way, Michail Ledeen (of aluminum tubes fame) is an influential ziocon and former member of Nazi-professing Gladio, a terrorist organization famous for blowing Europeans to smithereens.
    "Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq:" https://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
    "Iraq: A War For Israel:" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml https://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/13/neocons-regroup-on-libyan-war/
    " Iraq, Libya and Syria destroyed for Israel:" https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/01/us-analyst-iraq-libya-and-syria-destroyed-for-israel/
    , @jacques sheete

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens ...
     
    Well, who do you think did the attack on the USS liberty and 9/11 and many of the other false flags, for instance? One could also make a good case that the attack on Pearl Harbor and sacrifice of the lives there was deliberately provoked as a way to get the US into the war against Germany. Ever wonder why the US got involved in that massacre of fellow Christians?

    Ever hear of the Bolsheviks and the bankers who backed them?

    What are Israel's nukes for?

    Why bother blowing "us" goyim to smithereens when we're more useful, for the time being, as slaves?
    , @Trav
    No, @michelle (57), jews aren't trying to blow us up.

    They are just trying to slowly exterminate us and replace us with brown people. Feels so much better
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  58. mr meener says:
    @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    michelle if it were not for the jews forcing the west to kill 100′s of thousands of arabs and making tens of millions homeless THEY WOULD NOT BE ATTACKING US. that is if you really believe the false flag attacks.

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    Trying to convince a Jew supremacist that Jews aren't the "chosen, best ones" is like trying to convince an ISIS fighter that Allah does not exist.

    Of course they hate Palestinians, because Palestinians oppose their rule. But their hatred is not limited to the Palestinian resistance, or other forces in the ME who oppose their barbarism and savagery. Even in their host countries they ceaselessly attack anyone critical of Jewish supremacism, Jewish rule, Jewish "exceptionalism". They cannot do it in the same way they do to Palestinians, but if they could, they would (and when they can, they will - as happened in Bolshevik Russia). Because all non-Jews are inferior to them, like Arabs are to the rednecks who joke about "turning the ME into a sheet of glass".
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  59. mr meener says:

    I see the tribal member Weiss thought it was an act of heroism that the demonic Jacob schiff (in the back) financed the Bolshevik takeover of Russia where over 60 million Russian Christians were slaughtered with Bolshevik jews in charge of it

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  60. Why was the fourteen year old shot?

    It’s only a sin to misrepresent the facts when the eeeeevil jooos do it. It’ll turn out the same way these things always do: the left wing f-knuckles will tell us the teen was an innocent child with a bright future, and when the facts come out it’ll turn out that he had a rap sheet as long as your arm, and was trying to kill someone when some IDF saint put the Palestinkian down.

    The Palestinians lie like sidewalks too,

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    The Palestinians lie like sidewalks too,

    The Jews are the champion liars - when a Jew talks to you - he is manipulating you - that is the way of his people.

    In their screwed up culture, lying is how they save their miserable hides from the whole of humanity wanting to kill them. How dark! What a way to live.

    Imagine your parents telling you at the age of five, “that everyone wants to kill you.” Those poor little formative minds are ruined forever.

    We must take that into account went the people of that inferior tribe are judged. Jesus was right when he said “forgive them Father for they know not what they do.”

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Druid
    Facts please, or do you just choose to lie, Ziofascist troll
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  61. VICB3 says:
    @anon
    All I know is that Israel has been nothing but trouble and bad news for America since its founding. If only America could just wash its hands of this whole mess.

    Let’s do a thought experiment:

    Imagine if Israel didn’t exist. Or if Truman had heeded the advice of his own State Department and not recognized the Jewish State. (We’ll leave alone for the moment the problem, at the time and in the minds of some in the U.S. at the time the consequences of probable Soviet recognition of Zion.) Imagine if we had not bailed them out as we did, well, numerous times? Imagine if Israel was not there.

    Would we even care, really, about the Middle East at all? (Aside from Energy that is, and we are producing more and more in house.) And would the people in the Middle East (and elsewhere) be hating our guts to the same extent? Would we have the same radical Islam? Would we be pissing away treasure and blood, year after year after year, to no good purpose and with no end in sight? Would we have even started? Would we be in as deep a financial hole as we are now?

    Would we have to the same extent the erosions of freedoms we experience now? Would we have the TSA?

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

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    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.
     
    Wasn't Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ? If there is no Israel, how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.
    , @anon
    I couldn't agree more with you. Truman has a great deal to answer for.
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  62. @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    Very thought provoking post, although I am not sure that I agree with your entire treatise, but I do with enough of it for me to spend more time thinking about your premise about rejecting the increase of diversity. I do, however, share your dismissal of Weiss’ globalist solution.

    Your point that Israel should have either not tried to oust the arabs from Palestine or ousted them all, is correct from a clinical standpoint. However, I have a moral objection (and you noted that) of taking land by imperial force (although history is replete with that), and then doing so by ethnic cleansing in order for the subsequent nation to succeed, irrespective of the plight of those ousted.

    Whether I agree with it or not, your essay is very well written and worthy of deeper consideration. Thank you for that.

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  63. utu says:

    but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you

    Have you heard about false flag operations, poor woman? Like for instance the Operation Susannah when Isareli operatives were planting bombs in public places in Egypt:

    As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, “unspecified malcontents” or “local nationalists” with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt’s Suez Canal zone.

    Fortunately the operation was quickly compromised and the plotters were arrested.

    The Operation Susannah took place in 1954. Are you sure there were no other operations conducted by Israel or the US since that were terrorist in nature? Are you sure that 9/11 was not a false flag?

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    Also the bombing of the British headquarter at King David hotel , by Irgun member and future Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

    Begin was wanted by the British because of the bombing.

    , @jilles dykstra
    Victor Ostrovsky, ‘Mossad – the other side of deception’, 1994
    for quite a few Mossad operations, one of them to fool Reagan into bombing Tripolis, trying to kill Ghadaffi.
    , @Druid
    Just like 911.
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  64. Art says:
    @BozoB
    Is it possible that there is a style of life characteristic of each of these peoples and that the subordination of the Palestinians is therefore as close to inevitable as was the westward push of Native Americans by the European newcomers?

    Is it possible that there is a style of life characteristic of each of these peoples and that the subordination of the Palestinians is therefore as close to inevitable as was the westward push of Native Americans by the European newcomers?

    BozoB,

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews. Your statement is a lie. The ME belongs to Middle Eastern people.

    The world sees the Palestinians as the good guys – they are the guys with right on their side. The Jews are disparaged because they disserve it. The Jews had the world on their side after WWII – but they squandered those good feelings with the mean way they have treated the Palestinians.

    The US Jews are responsible for all this.

    Does that mean you BozoB?

    Think Peace — Art

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    @Art

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews.
     
    The Jews are not Semitic, they are Khazarian, therefore Turkic/Slavic/Mongolian. Plus, a lot of European mixture.

    "Jew" is a modern term invented by them. The old Judean peoples are long extinct.

    These are imposters...

    ... As evidenced in DNA tests. The (Askhenazi) "Jews" are white. The Semitic peoples are not precisely white.
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  65. Realist says:
    @anon
    Jordan occupies 78% of "paLiestine"

    What has that to do with Israeli military presence?

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  66. geokat62 says:
    @VICB3
    Let's do a thought experiment:

    Imagine if Israel didn't exist. Or if Truman had heeded the advice of his own State Department and not recognized the Jewish State. (We'll leave alone for the moment the problem, at the time and in the minds of some in the U.S. at the time the consequences of probable Soviet recognition of Zion.) Imagine if we had not bailed them out as we did, well, numerous times? Imagine if Israel was not there.

    Would we even care, really, about the Middle East at all? (Aside from Energy that is, and we are producing more and more in house.) And would the people in the Middle East (and elsewhere) be hating our guts to the same extent? Would we have the same radical Islam? Would we be pissing away treasure and blood, year after year after year, to no good purpose and with no end in sight? Would we have even started? Would we be in as deep a financial hole as we are now?

    Would we have to the same extent the erosions of freedoms we experience now? Would we have the TSA?

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don't jump up and say something. Just think about it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.

    Wasn’t Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ? If there is no Israel, how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

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    how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

    You don't seem to be doing all that great in drumming up support for your "solution."

    , @Anon
    "Wasn’t Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ?"
    --- If only... Picture the voracious Lobby in the US and the treasonous Friends of Israel in the UK. They do not want to live in Israel with other Jews. They want to live with gentiles.
    , @Druid
    Easy. By send the Ziofascists to your home town
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  67. Art says:
    @Glenfilthie
    Why was the fourteen year old shot?

    It’s only a sin to misrepresent the facts when the eeeeevil jooos do it. It’ll turn out the same way these things always do: the left wing f-knuckles will tell us the teen was an innocent child with a bright future, and when the facts come out it’ll turn out that he had a rap sheet as long as your arm, and was trying to kill someone when some IDF saint put the Palestinkian down.

    The Palestinians lie like sidewalks too,

    The Palestinians lie like sidewalks too,

    The Jews are the champion liars – when a Jew talks to you – he is manipulating you – that is the way of his people.

    In their screwed up culture, lying is how they save their miserable hides from the whole of humanity wanting to kill them. How dark! What a way to live.

    Imagine your parents telling you at the age of five, “that everyone wants to kill you.” Those poor little formative minds are ruined forever.

    We must take that into account went the people of that inferior tribe are judged. Jesus was right when he said “forgive them Father for they know not what they do.”

    Think Peace — Art

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  68. utu says:
    @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    You forgot about the most important part. The creation of the Jewish state whether in Israel or anywhere else (Uganda or Madagascar) should have been permitted under one condition that all Jews would relocate there, i.e., no more diaspora Jews. Jewish state makes only sense if it frees gentiles from all the blessings of having Jews in their own states.

    Hitler saw through Zionism:

    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html

    The Jew’s domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.

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    Wow, I have to read that book...what an unbelievably accurate excerpt.
    , @jacques sheete
    Utu, excellent job, sir! Fan-flippin-tastic.

    He also saw through the international bankster scam and rebuilt Germany, (during the Great Depression no less), outside of its clutches. That alone made him more eligible for crucifixion than the carpenter's kid.

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  69. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.
     
    Wasn't Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ? If there is no Israel, how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

    how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

    You don’t seem to be doing all that great in drumming up support for your “solution.”

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  70. Art says:
    @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel?

    What a shallow understanding of reality.

    Muslims are attacking us because we are killing their people every day all over the world – for the benefit of Israel.

    The US Jews manipulation of our democracy, brought 9/11 to our shores.

    We support the Palestinians because they are the victims of Jew aggression.

    You need to wise up and get a informed.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Arabs attacked us before we agressed. I am very informed, thank you. Go take a hike!
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  71. joecbart says:
    @anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.

    “Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000″

    Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever ideology you subscribe to has nothing to do with it.

    We only get one chance at this life and I weep for all the poor souls listed in your comment.

    However, I am an American and because of our elected representatives unwavering and financial support of the Jewish State, in my opinion, that makes me and my fellow citizen accomplices in the murder and genocide of native people of Palestine.

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    America gives money and financial support to :Indonesia , Sudan , Morocco , Turkey and Nigeria. So in the addition to the "genocide " of 23,000 PaLiestinians you are also an accomplice in the real genocides of :Biafra 2million , Papua 500,000 , , Darfur 1million + &c. &c.

    According to your own rules.
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  72. If a similar incident occurred in America, where an Arab assaults
    a white police officer, Jews would immediately organize protests.
    They would accuse the police officer of being a Nazi, fascist, White
    Supremacist. Communist college professors would break out their
    “Black Lives Matter” signs(which they do regardless of what they
    are protesting).
    The Jewish media would declare the police officer guilty and blare it 24/7.
    A growing number of people are sick of the hypocrisy and constant
    propaganda. Their disgust is justified.

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  73. Kiza says:
    @O'stein
    More like a Ukranian girl slapping a Russion soldier after he shoots her dad- what would you do if an enemy soldier shot your loved one?

    Is it on the Kolomoyskyi planet that a Russian soldier shoots an Ukrainian’s father? Because on this planet it was the shell of the Zionists supported and financed Ukrainian Nazis which has blown half the head off a 16-year old Russian speaking Ukrainian girl. She could not slap anyone.

    It is the usual alternative reality of the Zionist scumbags.

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  74. DB Cooper says:
    @utu
    but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you

    Have you heard about false flag operations, poor woman? Like for instance the Operation Susannah when Isareli operatives were planting bombs in public places in Egypt:

    As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.
     
    Fortunately the operation was quickly compromised and the plotters were arrested.

    The Operation Susannah took place in 1954. Are you sure there were no other operations conducted by Israel or the US since that were terrorist in nature? Are you sure that 9/11 was not a false flag?

    Also the bombing of the British headquarter at King David hotel , by Irgun member and future Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

    Begin was wanted by the British because of the bombing.

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    74 DB Cooper > the British headquarter at King David hotel


    and the British ==were entitled to have== a military headquarters in Jerusalem because of.... what?
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  75. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @joecbart
    "Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000"

    Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever ideology you subscribe to has nothing to do with it.

    We only get one chance at this life and I weep for all the poor souls listed in your comment.

    However, I am an American and because of our elected representatives unwavering and financial support of the Jewish State, in my opinion, that makes me and my fellow citizen accomplices in the murder and genocide of native people of Palestine.

    America gives money and financial support to :Indonesia , Sudan , Morocco , Turkey and Nigeria. So in the addition to the “genocide ” of 23,000 PaLiestinians you are also an accomplice in the real genocides of :Biafra 2million , Papua 500,000 , , Darfur 1million + &c. &c.

    According to your own rules.

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    "...you are also an accomplice..."
    Yes, some Americans are deeply disturbed by the neocon-ziocon’ murderous exploits in the distant lands. However, it seems that you want to see Americans feeling very-very guilty. -- Still soaking in the eternal Jewish victimhood? -- You need to check the names and ethnicity of the major cheerleaders for the wars of aggression this this century.
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  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    said:
    "This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time."

    Laughable. There was / is no such thing. Zionist lies have been & are the problem.
    Lying Zionist author Weiss said:

    "Because at some deep level older Jews are committed to the idea of a Jewish state as some historical compensation for the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust. That’s an understandable desire, to gain some amendment from the world’s powers for the horrors of the last century."
     

    There was no '6M Jews' except when they started trying that fake crap in 1869, see below.
    Jews have been faking the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Thanks, Wally. I was waiting for your post. The holocaust is not a proven fact and should not be passed off as one!

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    Certainly, and Merry Christmas.

    Get involved, let's bring the Big Lie monstrosity down. It's just not that difficult.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5102/?lang=en
    'Matter of Censorship should be a worry to us all'
    By French Singer Alison Chabloz

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

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  77. The occupation surely is destroying Israel spiritually.

    I would like to hear or read some evidence that there was anything spiritual about the abominable anachronism, the state of israel, ever.

    It was and is a total fraud and a usurper and as such its days are numbered.

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  78. @MEexpert

    The only question is why Jews do not act?
     
    No, the only question is why don't the Muslims act? The rich Gulf monarchies have sold out their souls to the Jewish and American masters. They are only interested in saving their hides. Palestinians and other suffering Muslims be damned.

    Why, given this endless evidence of persecution, haven’t Beinart and Peace Now come out for something stronger to break the occupation?
     
    They are under no obligation to do that. They tried and see what happened. Bannon is out of the White House. This is the power of the Jewish Lobby.

    Does Palestinian human wreckage count for anything?
     
    It hasn't so far. Palestinians have been killed and displaced from their homes for the past 70 years. The Arab monarchies have only provided some lip service to the Palestinian cause. Their own leader, Mahmood Abbas, is on Israeli pay roll. His term expired long time ago but he is kept in place by Israel so that he can control the Palestinians in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza.

    My only concern is the US policy towards Palestine. With all the talk of human rights and Responsibility to Protect, when it comes to Palestine, the US remains silent. I know the American people are getting fed up with the Israeli control over their politicians but they are powerless to do anything about it. Unless that hold is broken, nothing will be achieved in the Middle East. There will be wars and more wars , instigated by Israel and funded by the US. Israel/US/Saudi Arabia can always fund and arm another ISIS or Al-Qaeda to shed more innocent Muslim blood.

    No, the only question is why don’t the Muslims act?

    Try this.:

    I know the American people are getting fed up with the Israeli control over their politicians but they are powerless to do anything about it.

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  79. Bill Jones says: • Website
    @Z-man
    And when one occupying Zionist Jew gets killed in Palestine, it's the 'end of the world' in the MSM, in ZOG, EVERYWHERE!! And god forbid you don't mourn this 'innocent' life!

    The vomiting of Israel onto the people of Palestine was the biggest fuckup since WWII.

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    Stalins purges , Maos purges , Pol Pot , Castro and Che , Rwanda genocide , Biafra genocide , South Sudan genocide , Darfur genocide , Papua genocide , Suhartos communist purges , Chechen genocide , Chinese occupation of Tibet and Xinyang , North Korea starving its own population............. By the way Israel controls only 22% of Palestine . We vomited Saudi Hashemites from Mecca on the other 78% ¡¡¡¡¡¡
    , @Druid
    Yes, and followed by Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and now Syria. The last three the dirty work for the Zios
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  80. Anon-og says:
    @utu
    You forgot about the most important part. The creation of the Jewish state whether in Israel or anywhere else (Uganda or Madagascar) should have been permitted under one condition that all Jews would relocate there, i.e., no more diaspora Jews. Jewish state makes only sense if it frees gentiles from all the blessings of having Jews in their own states.

    Hitler saw through Zionism:


    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html
    The Jew's domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
     

    Wow, I have to read that book…what an unbelievably accurate excerpt.

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  81. Anon-og says:

    Forever shape shifting …..in the late 1800’s :

    “o beg it of the Sultan himself, and if it be impossible to obtain this, to beg that we may at least possess it as a state within a larger state; the internal administration to be ours, to have our civil and political rights, and to act with the Turkish Empire only in foreign affairs, so as to help our brother Ishmael in his time of need.

    http://www.zionism-israel.com/hdoc/Bilu_manifesto_1882.htm

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  82. CalDre says:
    @mr meener
    michelle if it were not for the jews forcing the west to kill 100's of thousands of arabs and making tens of millions homeless THEY WOULD NOT BE ATTACKING US. that is if you really believe the false flag attacks.

    Trying to convince a Jew supremacist that Jews aren’t the “chosen, best ones” is like trying to convince an ISIS fighter that Allah does not exist.

    Of course they hate Palestinians, because Palestinians oppose their rule. But their hatred is not limited to the Palestinian resistance, or other forces in the ME who oppose their barbarism and savagery. Even in their host countries they ceaselessly attack anyone critical of Jewish supremacism, Jewish rule, Jewish “exceptionalism”. They cannot do it in the same way they do to Palestinians, but if they could, they would (and when they can, they will – as happened in Bolshevik Russia). Because all non-Jews are inferior to them, like Arabs are to the rednecks who joke about “turning the ME into a sheet of glass”.

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  83. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones
    The vomiting of Israel onto the people of Palestine was the biggest fuckup since WWII.

    Stalins purges , Maos purges , Pol Pot , Castro and Che , Rwanda genocide , Biafra genocide , South Sudan genocide , Darfur genocide , Papua genocide , Suhartos communist purges , Chechen genocide , Chinese occupation of Tibet and Xinyang , North Korea starving its own population…………. By the way Israel controls only 22% of Palestine . We vomited Saudi Hashemites from Mecca on the other 78% ¡¡¡¡¡¡

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    "Israel controls only 22% of Palestine…"
    -- Should be zero %.
    And your lot has proven to be genocidal towards Russians (see the prevalence of Jews among the leading Bolsheviks) and Arabs (see the ongoing wars for Israel in the Middle East).
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  84. Anon-og says:

    This Christmas, Santa Is Barred From Gaza for ‘Security Reasons’

    Some of the Mideast’s most embattled Christians have little to celebrate. After 11 years of blockade, only 1000 Christians are left in Gaza, and the call to join relatives in exile grows stronger every year

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.830883

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  85. The world fails to realize that Israel was created by and for the same group of people who owns and run the US “Federal” Reserve. The Israeli-American symbiosis has been meticulously orchestrated.

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  86. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @VICB3
    Let's do a thought experiment:

    Imagine if Israel didn't exist. Or if Truman had heeded the advice of his own State Department and not recognized the Jewish State. (We'll leave alone for the moment the problem, at the time and in the minds of some in the U.S. at the time the consequences of probable Soviet recognition of Zion.) Imagine if we had not bailed them out as we did, well, numerous times? Imagine if Israel was not there.

    Would we even care, really, about the Middle East at all? (Aside from Energy that is, and we are producing more and more in house.) And would the people in the Middle East (and elsewhere) be hating our guts to the same extent? Would we have the same radical Islam? Would we be pissing away treasure and blood, year after year after year, to no good purpose and with no end in sight? Would we have even started? Would we be in as deep a financial hole as we are now?

    Would we have to the same extent the erosions of freedoms we experience now? Would we have the TSA?

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don't jump up and say something. Just think about it.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    I couldn’t agree more with you. Truman has a great deal to answer for.

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  87. The writer (((Weiss))) is a jew, and knows better than anyone that jews only care about other jews. The reason jewish organisations aren’t speaking out about the treatment of Tamimi is quite simple: they don’t give a damn. Hand-wringing from this writer is mere distraction, nothing more. Weiss knows how bad the optics are, and has penned an article expressing ‘deep concern’ for the purpose of counterpoint. But deep down in his shriveled black jew heart, he cares as little for what happens to the Palestinian goyim as the rest of his tribesmen. Do not fall for jewish tricks.

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  88. Mystified says:

    Is the author a self-hating Jew or a Muslim pretending to be one? Or just a concerned citizen on a planet in this galaxy?

    Punching below one’s weight is so passé as an argument.

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  89. @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians.

    It’s the Palestinians’ land, that the Jews stole, by brute force, with the complicity of the British… Get over it? I don’t think so. The worst (for Israhell) is yet to come.

    Are you Jewish or just a generic troll?

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    Yeah, I came out <1% Ashkenazi on my Ancestry DNA test. So Jewish!!
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  90. @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    @ Michelle

    “but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you”

    All the terrorist attacks in America and Europe are masterminded and at least partially operated by Mossad, Israel’s ‘intelligence’ agency.

    You’re a troll, aren’t you?

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    I'm not a troll, but you are a certifiable looney.
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  91. @Art
    Is it possible that there is a style of life characteristic of each of these peoples and that the subordination of the Palestinians is therefore as close to inevitable as was the westward push of Native Americans by the European newcomers?

    BozoB,

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews. Your statement is a lie. The ME belongs to Middle Eastern people.

    The world sees the Palestinians as the good guys - they are the guys with right on their side. The Jews are disparaged because they disserve it. The Jews had the world on their side after WWII - but they squandered those good feelings with the mean way they have treated the Palestinians.

    The US Jews are responsible for all this.

    Does that mean you BozoB?

    Think Peace --- Art

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews.

    The Jews are not Semitic, they are Khazarian, therefore Turkic/Slavic/Mongolian. Plus, a lot of European mixture.

    “Jew” is a modern term invented by them. The old Judean peoples are long extinct.

    These are imposters…

    … As evidenced in DNA tests. The (Askhenazi) “Jews” are white. The Semitic peoples are not precisely white.

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    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!
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  92. mcohen says:

    Well well well p weiss has got himself a slot on unz Desperate days indeed.

    As i posted on mondoweiss i will do the same here.the last paragraph is an eye opener

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/alan-dershowitz-the-jerusalem-conflict-is-all-barack-obamas-fault/article/2644031

    “This entire brouhaha about Jerusalem — including the staged tactical violence by Palestinians — is entirely the fault of a single vengeful individual who put personal pique over American policy: Barack Obama.”

    Personal pique indeed.hopefully donald trump can restore stability in the middle east.peace is possible

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  93. mcohen says:
    @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    Good essay.you did underestimate the power of relegion and that prevented the all out ethnic cleansing.the utopian concept of a holy land meets imperialism.vatican?mecca?
    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.

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    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.
     
    It will? When?

    You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a "holy" land for Judaism? Especially since Jews were living in Palestine and shared a holy land there long before the Ziofreaks stuck their noses where they had no business?

    Wouldn't that be a job for Yahweh, or at least for people who actually believe in the dude?
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  94. @utu
    but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you

    Have you heard about false flag operations, poor woman? Like for instance the Operation Susannah when Isareli operatives were planting bombs in public places in Egypt:

    As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.
     
    Fortunately the operation was quickly compromised and the plotters were arrested.

    The Operation Susannah took place in 1954. Are you sure there were no other operations conducted by Israel or the US since that were terrorist in nature? Are you sure that 9/11 was not a false flag?

    Victor Ostrovsky, ‘Mossad – the other side of deception’, 1994
    for quite a few Mossad operations, one of them to fool Reagan into bombing Tripolis, trying to kill Ghadaffi.

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  95. @utu
    My comment was alluding to attitudes among Americans to killings by the the law enforcement. The "self-defence" and "fear for life" is almost always successfully invoked. Over 1000 are killed per year. Only 0.3% of cops are convicted of some crime. 99.7% are never charged or are acquitted by the jury of their peers who believes that killing was justified because of "self-defence" and "fear for life."

    One example:

    'Please don't kill me': Cop is cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father, 26, as he crawled along a hotel corridor in shocking footage which his family insists shows a 'cold-blooded execution'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5157957/Ex-Arizona-police-officer-acquitted-fatal-hotel-shooting.html#ixzz52D6z9tuq

    Point taken. Sickening isn’t it? Considering some cases in Australia where the mentally ill (white like the victim in the case you link) have been shot by young armed police I think the main conclusion to draw is that young police need to be much much better trained, with every shooting regarded as prima facie a failure especially if fatal.

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    Yes, it is sickening. This is really a cultural difference issue. Most Americans will somehow justify it w/o getting sick. Training like deconfliction, etc. would help but it is unlikely to occur. Actually we may expect that police forces in other countries will become more like American police. American culture spreads like cancer. In good old times in Europe the police rules of engagement were to (1) make a warning shot and (2) shoot to disable but not to kill (like legs) and (3) never to shoot at suspect that runs away. In the Eastern Europe after communism collapse police forces were trained by American outfits and these rules were abandoned and now the policy of shoot to kill was adopted, which means shoot at torso as many bullets as you can.

    Clearly American police would benefit from a basic training:

    Arkansas cop sues Glock for $75,000 after shooting himself in the foot by accident

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3760281/Arkansas-cop-sues-Glock-75-000-shooting-foot-accident-loaded.html

    Florida mother, 73, is accidentally shot and killed by a cop in front of 34 people during role play exercise after officer playing a ‘bad guy’ loaded live rounds into the gun instead of blanks

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3732622/Police-Woman-killed-Florida-officer-academy-exercise.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-WJMoxMfm4
    , @Twodees Partain
    Training police is obviously not the answer, if it is done in response to a homicide or assault by the police officer. The proper response to such an act by a cop is to fire him, and ask that he be prosecuted in the same way any other person would be prosecuted for a homicide or armed assault.
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  96. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “…the greatest trauma of the last century, the Holocaust.”
    The greatest traumas of the last century were Bolshevik revolution, the WWII, tthe US war against Vietnam, and Cultural Revolution in China. The WWII Holocaust targeted evenly Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, and communists. The Russians, Vietnamese, Chines, Ukrainians et al have been no less traumatized than the supremacist group that claims today both special victimhood and supreme morality, while having neither.
    As for the bloody Bolshevik Revolution, ethnic Jews made 80% of the first Bolshevik government. They were particularly prominent in organizing security services (CheKa, NKVD), concentration camps (GULAG), and collectivization in Ukraine; the latter had led to Holodomor there (7 million died). That was systematic elimination of the flower of Russian intelligentsia and officer corps. At least 20 millions perished in Russia due to the Bolsheviks’ policies.

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  97. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Good propaganda does not tell lies, but tells just the facts that suit the propagandist.
    Around 1800 Poland was divided, not for the first time, the majority of world jewry came to live in tsarist Russia, five million.
    Around 1900 was the tenth resignation of the tsarist assimilation committee.
    Around the same date count Witte said to Herzl that he would gladly drown five million jews in the Black Sea, but it could not be done.

    Solsjenytsyn, in his last published book, he waited with publication till his death was near, for obvious reasons, explains how jews in Russia resisted all attempts at assimilation.
    Alas there is just a german translation of the book.
    Dutch journalists interviewed Solsjenytsyn shortly before his death, and wrote an article in which they stated 'that the book had caused great irritation in the west'.

    They did not write that the book contains lies, the book resembles Mearsheimer and Walt on AIPAC, the number of references is unbelievable.
    Many are from jewish sources, such as a jewish encyclopedia.
    It is interesting to see how this encyclopedia follows Orwell's '1984', whenever it seems necessary the facts are changed.

    Indeed, the east European Jewish shtetls of 19th century wer akin the Arab ghettoes in western Europe today. It is unfortunate that the ancient animosity between these two blood cousins, Jews and Arabs, has saddled the US and EU with enormous problems.

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    Hmmmmm were Jewish ghetto dwellers driving trucks into crowds , shooting up concerts and jihading it up ???

    EU problem is being Islamophiles while simultaneously having .007 tfr. Bad combination. Don't need Jews to screw over the eu when they can do a great job all by themselves. The more they are cheerleaders for Islam the worse off they get by the hands of Muslims . But they will never learn.
    , @Druid
    Those "ghettos " we're self-made by their rabbis because they did not want their guys to assimilate. This crap about imposition of ghettos on them is a Zio lie! Then they use the lie to their advantage. Win both ways, the Jewish way!
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  98. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Good propaganda does not tell lies, but tells just the facts that suit the propagandist.
    Around 1800 Poland was divided, not for the first time, the majority of world jewry came to live in tsarist Russia, five million.
    Around 1900 was the tenth resignation of the tsarist assimilation committee.
    Around the same date count Witte said to Herzl that he would gladly drown five million jews in the Black Sea, but it could not be done.

    Solsjenytsyn, in his last published book, he waited with publication till his death was near, for obvious reasons, explains how jews in Russia resisted all attempts at assimilation.
    Alas there is just a german translation of the book.
    Dutch journalists interviewed Solsjenytsyn shortly before his death, and wrote an article in which they stated 'that the book had caused great irritation in the west'.

    They did not write that the book contains lies, the book resembles Mearsheimer and Walt on AIPAC, the number of references is unbelievable.
    Many are from jewish sources, such as a jewish encyclopedia.
    It is interesting to see how this encyclopedia follows Orwell's '1984', whenever it seems necessary the facts are changed.

    “Solsjenytsyn, in his last published book, he waited with publication till his death was near, for obvious reasons, explains how jews in Russia resisted all attempts at assimilation.”
    The world would have been a much safer place if the truth about the “most moral” and “most victimized” were widely available in print. The hard facts afford no place for the mythology of ziocons.

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  99. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Colleen Pater
    As usual you try and approach a problem from a conservative and reasonable perspective and it all wrong.
    First error is your assumption that jews and arabs can live in peace in the same state. as heartiste says Diversity plus proximity equals war.I know plenty of muslims and I even think they are less of a threat to my people than are the jews, but as you should know when they are honest they will tell you the entire middle east must be muslim and that particularly means to them Israel must be no more. So any inch you give them is an inch in the direction of your eventual destruction. The actual solution is to evict every last arab, you can never be worse off, just like you want every white dead they want every jew dead.
    But your even stupider error is the moral underpinning of of why you should act in ways that will destroy israel. Because evil whites pogroms you in the past and it made you mad enough to conspire with the jewish political philosophy of marxism running a jewish led revolution of terror on white nations that murdered an order of magnitude more than hitler ever did._ and so you ought to have learned something about sharing from the pogroms ( not of course learned from the murderous communism you are still perpetuating under the rebranding of cultural marxism/multiculturalism that led to the world wars and your near destruction). You seem to have learned nothing what you should have learned from history is diversity plus proximity equals war. what you should have learned is that jews make really bad neighbors and eventually try their hosts patience until they are forced to leave, but your reputation precedes you and no one wants you, and then your strategy of saving the resources of building and maintaining a nation of your own and instead parasitizing others nations while using your resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations, becomes a fatal error. You seem finally to have figured this out and founded an actual nation in an appreciate geographical place.all you semites are are wandering camel jockeys but jewish claim to the area is at least written and thousands of years old if you think shit like that matters. It doesnt. power to take and hold is the only moral right to ownership there is, under your deluded reasoning italy would own the mideast and americans would have to surrender to red skins. right is might. israel owns israel and has the power to evivt the remains muslims and ought to because our patience in the west is once again exhausted with your little white privilege game your days are numbered rather not have to re open the camps just pack you on planes with your stocks and bonds and wave goodbye. but one way or another whites are waking up to who is behind the leftism that has destroyed us and it wont be long before youre asked to leave

    “…using resources to target key centers of wealth and power within others nations…”
    In pictures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg
    “The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior. In this movie, we show the life cycle of this amazing predator, which ends in a slow horrifying death of the cockroach.”

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  100. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @white noise
    @Art

    The Palestinians are Semitic people, as are the Jews.
     
    The Jews are not Semitic, they are Khazarian, therefore Turkic/Slavic/Mongolian. Plus, a lot of European mixture.

    "Jew" is a modern term invented by them. The old Judean peoples are long extinct.

    These are imposters...

    ... As evidenced in DNA tests. The (Askhenazi) "Jews" are white. The Semitic peoples are not precisely white.

    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!

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    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!


    The fact that the girl has been wronged must not be talked about.

    With the Jew, it is always about organic identity – divide divide divide – conquer conquer conquer.

    They never want to talk right and wrong – those arguments they always lose.

    Wherever there is wrongful dirty dealing, wherever there is something dark – you will find a Jew.

    Currently they are leading humanity backwards into more hate and more war.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Anon
    "...That blonde , blue eyed..."
    Well, look at this pic: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-money-machine/?highlight=Israel
    All the Israel-firster ladies on this pic are blond, including the exceptionally ugly Streisand and ridicuous Mrs. Adelson.
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  101. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @MEexpert

    The only question is why Jews do not act?
     
    No, the only question is why don't the Muslims act? The rich Gulf monarchies have sold out their souls to the Jewish and American masters. They are only interested in saving their hides. Palestinians and other suffering Muslims be damned.

    Why, given this endless evidence of persecution, haven’t Beinart and Peace Now come out for something stronger to break the occupation?
     
    They are under no obligation to do that. They tried and see what happened. Bannon is out of the White House. This is the power of the Jewish Lobby.

    Does Palestinian human wreckage count for anything?
     
    It hasn't so far. Palestinians have been killed and displaced from their homes for the past 70 years. The Arab monarchies have only provided some lip service to the Palestinian cause. Their own leader, Mahmood Abbas, is on Israeli pay roll. His term expired long time ago but he is kept in place by Israel so that he can control the Palestinians in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza.

    My only concern is the US policy towards Palestine. With all the talk of human rights and Responsibility to Protect, when it comes to Palestine, the US remains silent. I know the American people are getting fed up with the Israeli control over their politicians but they are powerless to do anything about it. Unless that hold is broken, nothing will be achieved in the Middle East. There will be wars and more wars , instigated by Israel and funded by the US. Israel/US/Saudi Arabia can always fund and arm another ISIS or Al-Qaeda to shed more innocent Muslim blood.

    “Israel/US/Saudi Arabia can always fund and arm another ISIS or Al-Qaeda….”
    – That funding/arming never stopped:

    http://theantimedia.org/congresswoman-us-funds-isis-syria/

    https://www.wired.com/story/terror-industrial-complex-isis-munitions-supply-chain/

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  102. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Jordan occupies 78% of "paLiestine"

    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives. Whereas your pompous Mielkovsky (of Polish origin), Moldovan felon Avigdor Lieberman, and other Frenkels coming from families of GULAG organizers in Russia, are imposters of uncertain origin. They are suffering from an oversized lust for money and power and they are never tired of quetching on “eternal victimhood.”

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    "The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives."

    Indeed. Two Israeli historians who write about this basic fact are Ilan Pappe in his 'Ten Myths About Israel' and Shlomo Sand in 'The Invention of the Jewish People'.

    Basically, the ancient Hebrew population at first converted to Christianity and, later, to Islam.
    , @edNels
    The victims of the Victims were the victims of the (victims.)

    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives.
     
    Who's yer Uncle? Who's on First?
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  103. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Indeed, the east European Jewish shtetls of 19th century wer akin the Arab ghettoes in western Europe today. It is unfortunate that the ancient animosity between these two blood cousins, Jews and Arabs, has saddled the US and EU with enormous problems.

    Hmmmmm were Jewish ghetto dwellers driving trucks into crowds , shooting up concerts and jihading it up ???

    EU problem is being Islamophiles while simultaneously having .007 tfr. Bad combination. Don’t need Jews to screw over the eu when they can do a great job all by themselves. The more they are cheerleaders for Islam the worse off they get by the hands of Muslims . But they will never learn.

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    Hmmmmm were Jewish ghetto dwellers driving trucks into crowds , shooting up concerts and jihading it up ???
     
    Maybe not the ghetto dwellers themselves , but have you ever heard of terrorists blowing up hotels and placing bombs in market places? How about the attack on the USS Liberty? What were those white vans with pictures of planes flying near skyscrapers that Israelis were driving in NYC around the time of 9/11 used for? You think they were merely bagel delivery vans?

    You may want to Google "Irgun," "Palmach," and "Mossad" for starters. Curiosity can be a friend...
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  104. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Biafrans killed by Nigeria 2million+
    Darfuris killed by Sudan 1million+
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000+
    Chechens killed by Russia 150,000+
    Cypriots and Kurds killed by Turki 70,000+
    Western Saharans killed by Morocco 40,000+
    Palestinians killed by Israel 23,000

    Tell me again about misplaced caring . Merry Christmas in honor of the millions of Christians killed in Biafra , Papua , Darfur that you could care less about.

    Why don’t you factor PNAC and Yinon plan into your list and why don’t you ponder for a minute on the spectacular results that were achieved (under the tender care of the Lobby) by the most Christian Bush & Obama & Clinton against the Christian communities in the Middle East?
    “The Clique that Sold Us the Iraq War:” http://zfacts.com/node/297
    “Israel sees Assad winning Syria war, urges more U.S. involvement:” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel/israel-sees-assad-winning-syria-war-urges-more-u-s-involvement-idUSKCN1C81BK
    “Israel Prepares for War in Syria against Iran”: http://www.meforum.org/6946/israel-prepares-for-war-in-syria-against-iran&#8211;

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  105. L.K says:
    @DB Cooper
    Support Eva Bartlett and give voice to the voiceless Palestinians.

    https://ingaza.wordpress.com/

    Brave woman, Eva, she is also done a lot to expose the Empire’s lies about the war in Syria… which, btw, is largely another war for Israel… in this case fought by Wahhabi proxies supported by the ZUS coalition.

    Thanks

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  106. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    “If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble.”
    Right. Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. — And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

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    Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. — And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

    Oh my' - how do the Jews do it - three giant lies in one sentence.

    progeny of ancient Jews - sorry the Euro Jews are mostly Euro. They are the Zionist creeps that rule Israel.

    invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world - the return of Palestinians is what the world wants.

    do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology - the Jews are on the top of the criminal race.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  107. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    “…but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you.”
    — Yes. They simply arrange the US/EU boys and girls to go to blow others to smithereens (mostly civilians, of all ages) and to become blown to smithereens themselves, occasionally. See the genesis of Iraq war (illegal war of aggression). See the mass slaughter in Libya and Syria (mostly civilians, of all ages). And do not forget the targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. By the way, Michail Ledeen (of aluminum tubes fame) is an influential ziocon and former member of Nazi-professing Gladio, a terrorist organization famous for blowing Europeans to smithereens.
    “Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq:” https://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
    “Iraq: A War For Israel:” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml https://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/13/neocons-regroup-on-libyan-war/
    ” Iraq, Libya and Syria destroyed for Israel:” https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/01/us-analyst-iraq-libya-and-syria-destroyed-for-israel/

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    You are too silly for me! Palestinians were having conniptions long before the Iraq war. I would much rather live in Israel than in any part of the Palestinian territories. Nuff said.
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  108. Art says:
    @Anon
    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!

    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!

    The fact that the girl has been wronged must not be talked about.

    With the Jew, it is always about organic identity – divide divide divide – conquer conquer conquer.

    They never want to talk right and wrong – those arguments they always lose.

    Wherever there is wrongful dirty dealing, wherever there is something dark – you will find a Jew.

    Currently they are leading humanity backwards into more hate and more war.

    Think Peace — Art

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    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!
     
    If the white supremacist Aryan Nation ever learn their world history and find out that the Aryan ancestors that they are so proud of came from Asia they probably will commit suicide. Even today, if you go the mountains of Northwest Pakistan you will find blonde haired/blue eyed families all over.

    The late Shah of Iran was descendant of these Aryans and one of his many titles was "Aryamehr," i.e. the Light of the Aryans.
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  109. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.
     
    Wasn't Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ? If there is no Israel, how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

    “Wasn’t Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ?”
    — If only… Picture the voracious Lobby in the US and the treasonous Friends of Israel in the UK. They do not want to live in Israel with other Jews. They want to live with gentiles.

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    If only… Picture the voracious Lobby in the US and the treasonous Friends of Israel in the UK. They do not want to live in Israel with other Jews. They want to live with gentiles.
     
    This is the crux of the matter. To avert a backlash, Diaspora Jewry must choose between two options:

    1. make Aliyah; or
    2. assimilate to the dominant culture by dismantling The Lobby.

    Now, bear in mind the following quote about The Lobby "American Style" was made over 20 years ago:


    Goldberg (1996, 38–39) notes that presently there are approximately 300 national Jewish organizations in the United States with a combined budget estimated in the range of $6 billion—a sum, Goldberg notes, greater than the gross national product of half the members of the United Nations. - Prof. Kevin MacDonald Ch. 7, The Culture of Critique
     
    Does anyone doubt that The Lobby has only grown stronger over the last 20 years?

    Bottom line: they must come to the realization that they can no longer have their cake and eat it too.

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  110. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    America gives money and financial support to :Indonesia , Sudan , Morocco , Turkey and Nigeria. So in the addition to the "genocide " of 23,000 PaLiestinians you are also an accomplice in the real genocides of :Biafra 2million , Papua 500,000 , , Darfur 1million + &c. &c.

    According to your own rules.

    “…you are also an accomplice…”
    Yes, some Americans are deeply disturbed by the neocon-ziocon’ murderous exploits in the distant lands. However, it seems that you want to see Americans feeling very-very guilty. — Still soaking in the eternal Jewish victimhood? — You need to check the names and ethnicity of the major cheerleaders for the wars of aggression this this century.

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  111. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Stalins purges , Maos purges , Pol Pot , Castro and Che , Rwanda genocide , Biafra genocide , South Sudan genocide , Darfur genocide , Papua genocide , Suhartos communist purges , Chechen genocide , Chinese occupation of Tibet and Xinyang , North Korea starving its own population............. By the way Israel controls only 22% of Palestine . We vomited Saudi Hashemites from Mecca on the other 78% ¡¡¡¡¡¡

    “Israel controls only 22% of Palestine…”
    – Should be zero %.
    And your lot has proven to be genocidal towards Russians (see the prevalence of Jews among the leading Bolsheviks) and Arabs (see the ongoing wars for Israel in the Middle East).

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    Hey , Russians don't need Jews to help them with their suicide, they are capable on their own . Russians have figured our splendid ways , constant vodka consumption, Krokodile , tfr of zero , homicide rate many times the Western rate.

    Arabs are good at killing themselves too. Assad regime has killed half a million , Bashir regime has accomplished even more and on a non state level , Muslims commit suicide bombings and jihading attacks daily .

    Hashemites occupy 78% of PaLiestine and anyway you don't care about PaLiestimian at all anyway , you Just hate Jews.
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  112. L.K says:
    @Anon
    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives. Whereas your pompous Mielkovsky (of Polish origin), Moldovan felon Avigdor Lieberman, and other Frenkels coming from families of GULAG organizers in Russia, are imposters of uncertain origin. They are suffering from an oversized lust for money and power and they are never tired of quetching on "eternal victimhood."

    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives.”

    Indeed. Two Israeli historians who write about this basic fact are Ilan Pappe in his ‘Ten Myths About Israel’ and Shlomo Sand in ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’.

    Basically, the ancient Hebrew population at first converted to Christianity and, later, to Islam.

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  113. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!

    “…That blonde , blue eyed…”
    Well, look at this pic: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-money-machine/?highlight=Israel
    All the Israel-firster ladies on this pic are blond, including the exceptionally ugly Streisand and ridicuous Mrs. Adelson.

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  114. Art says:
    @Anon
    "If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble."
    Right. Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. -- And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

    Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. — And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

    Oh my’ – how do the Jews do it – three giant lies in one sentence.

    progeny of ancient Jews - sorry the Euro Jews are mostly Euro. They are the Zionist creeps that rule Israel.

    invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world – the return of Palestinians is what the world wants.

    do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology – the Jews are on the top of the criminal race.

    Think Peace — Art

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    progeny of ancient Jews ...
     
    I believe this "Anon" was referring to Palestinians.

    Did you get the sarcasm of the comment? Hard to tell. This whole thread is emblematic of the problem with anon posting. [Ex. comment #121, Anon v. Anon.]
    , @Anon
    Hi Art:
    "Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world."
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews
    2. The Soviet alia has been mostly economic migrants; the Jewish Africans would love to relocate to Israel but the master-race does not like black people (if they are not African-Americans)
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  115. nickels says:

    So since Jews can have a pure, racial reich where they are the masters of a segregated state, whites in America today, as well as Germans circa 1940 certainly have the same right.

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  116. geokat62 says:
    @Anon
    "Wasn’t Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ?"
    --- If only... Picture the voracious Lobby in the US and the treasonous Friends of Israel in the UK. They do not want to live in Israel with other Jews. They want to live with gentiles.

    If only… Picture the voracious Lobby in the US and the treasonous Friends of Israel in the UK. They do not want to live in Israel with other Jews. They want to live with gentiles.

    This is the crux of the matter. To avert a backlash, Diaspora Jewry must choose between two options:

    1. make Aliyah; or
    2. assimilate to the dominant culture by dismantling The Lobby.

    Now, bear in mind the following quote about The Lobby “American Style” was made over 20 years ago:

    Goldberg (1996, 38–39) notes that presently there are approximately 300 national Jewish organizations in the United States with a combined budget estimated in the range of $6 billion—a sum, Goldberg notes, greater than the gross national product of half the members of the United Nations. – Prof. Kevin MacDonald Ch. 7, The Culture of Critique

    Does anyone doubt that The Lobby has only grown stronger over the last 20 years?

    Bottom line: they must come to the realization that they can no longer have their cake and eat it too.

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  117. L.K says:

    The incident described in the above article involved 2 IDF male soldiers(who were at the family’s home!), not the female shown in the photo above the article.

    Why did Ahed Tamimi, who lives under a long & ILLEGAL Israeli occupation hit the israeli sissies?
    If Americans Knew blog has an article telling us why…

    “The logic of occupation”:
    (1) Shoot a boy in the face, leaving him gravely injured, and shoot tear gas into the family home, breaking several windows.
    (2) Arrest his 16-year-old female cousin who angrily slapped an Israeli soldier (for the shooting her cousin and attack on her home) and told him to leave their property.
    (3) Make the arrest in the middle of the night, using about 30 soldiers.
    (4) Arrest the girl’s mother.
    (5) Arrest the girl’s female cousin.
    (6) And then say that they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

    Israeli forces imprison 16-year-old Palestinian girl, her mother, and her cousin – after shooting another cousin in the face

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-forces-imprison-16-year-old-palestinian-girl-mother-cousin-shooting-another-cousin-face/

    Vid of the incident. starts with the middle of the night arrest and later shows footage where Ahed slapped the zionist sissies standing in their property after shooting tear gas into their house.

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  118. L.K says:

    Ahed’s(the girl who was arrested) village in occupied West Bank has suffered many zionist raids over the years, including night raids… Here’s an example of the heroes in action at Ahed’s village in 2014;

    If I were a Palestinian I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers…

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    "" I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers""

    What is stopping you other than the fact that you are an impotent liar and a sissy . You are capable of displaying your impotent rage and frustrations by posting comments online , nothing more lol. Do you wear a keffiyeh when you post your rants looollllololzlzlLz

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  119. L.K says:

    Ahed Tamimi – Living Resistance Tour

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  120. @Wally
    said:
    "Guilt is kept at bay by exaggerating and even fabricating a perpetual Jewish sacred innocence as Eternal Victim."

    Fabrication indeed.
    They refuse to allow others to live as they wish, yet they invent and accuse others of absurd tales of persecution and 'extermination' against them.

    They are the most racist people on the planet, the most mentally deranged. Hard to imagine at times, but the facts are the facts.
    They are something beyond obnoxious, obscene is perhaps a better description.

    www.codoh.com

    They are something beyond obnoxious, obscene is perhaps a better description.

    Those apply and “deranged” comes to mind, but there really are no words sufficient to describe it.

    Books of words hardly scratch the surface, in fact. That’s why it’s so difficult to explain, and people don’t, can’t, and won’t believe it until they experience it directly.

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  121. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    "Israel controls only 22% of Palestine…"
    -- Should be zero %.
    And your lot has proven to be genocidal towards Russians (see the prevalence of Jews among the leading Bolsheviks) and Arabs (see the ongoing wars for Israel in the Middle East).

    Hey , Russians don’t need Jews to help them with their suicide, they are capable on their own . Russians have figured our splendid ways , constant vodka consumption, Krokodile , tfr of zero , homicide rate many times the Western rate.

    Arabs are good at killing themselves too. Assad regime has killed half a million , Bashir regime has accomplished even more and on a non state level , Muslims commit suicide bombings and jihading attacks daily .

    Hashemites occupy 78% of PaLiestine and anyway you don’t care about PaLiestimian at all anyway , you Just hate Jews.

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    "you just hate Jews"
    --- The eternal special victimhood on display. You could try alia ?
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  122. @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens …

    Well, who do you think did the attack on the USS liberty and 9/11 and many of the other false flags, for instance? One could also make a good case that the attack on Pearl Harbor and sacrifice of the lives there was deliberately provoked as a way to get the US into the war against Germany. Ever wonder why the US got involved in that massacre of fellow Christians?

    Ever hear of the Bolsheviks and the bankers who backed them?

    What are Israel’s nukes for?

    Why bother blowing “us” goyim to smithereens when we’re more useful, for the time being, as slaves?

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  123. RobinG says:
    @Art
    Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. — And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

    Oh my' - how do the Jews do it - three giant lies in one sentence.

    progeny of ancient Jews - sorry the Euro Jews are mostly Euro. They are the Zionist creeps that rule Israel.

    invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world - the return of Palestinians is what the world wants.

    do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology - the Jews are on the top of the criminal race.

    Think Peace --- Art

    progeny of ancient Jews …

    I believe this “Anon” was referring to Palestinians.

    Did you get the sarcasm of the comment? Hard to tell. This whole thread is emblematic of the problem with anon posting. [Ex. comment #121, Anon v. Anon.]

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  124. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    Ahed's(the girl who was arrested) village in occupied West Bank has suffered many zionist raids over the years, including night raids... Here's an example of the heroes in action at Ahed's village in 2014;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNXgZdMta-k

    If I were a Palestinian I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers...

    “” I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers””

    What is stopping you other than the fact that you are an impotent liar and a sissy . You are capable of displaying your impotent rage and frustrations by posting comments online , nothing more lol. Do you wear a keffiyeh when you post your rants looollllololzlzlLz

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    You are projecting, scum.

    Liars and sissies are assholes such as yourself, who support this ongoing obscenity done to the Palestinians by "Israel".

    You guys are good at tormenting women, children & civilians in general... when faced by people who know how to fight back, then it is a different story...

    This interview with a Hezbollah soldier who fought in the Battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b, sums up the IDF sissies best, @2:35
    With a smile, the Hezbollah trooper says:
    "We have seen them(israeli soldiers) fleeing like sheep. And it may be that the sheep by the end got used to the sound of bombing and wasn't affected by it anymore. While the israeli soldier, you could hear his screams from hundreds of meters away when he was targeted."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZNViirWTnk
    , @jacques sheete

    What is stopping you...
     
    What's stopping all the Izzie -first cheerleaders from joining the lethal and sadistic pack of cowards known as the IDF?

    And what's stopping the IDF gang of thugs, terrorists and extortionists from fighting their own wars with their own bodies and treasure?
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  125. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art
    Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world. — And do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology.

    Oh my' - how do the Jews do it - three giant lies in one sentence.

    progeny of ancient Jews - sorry the Euro Jews are mostly Euro. They are the Zionist creeps that rule Israel.

    invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world - the return of Palestinians is what the world wants.

    do nor forget to use the usual master-race phraseology - the Jews are on the top of the criminal race.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Hi Art:
    “Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world.”
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews
    2. The Soviet alia has been mostly economic migrants; the Jewish Africans would love to relocate to Israel but the master-race does not like black people (if they are not African-Americans)

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    “Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world.”
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews
     
    Anon,

    Sorry I got that 100% wrong – that has happened before – will happen again – I apologize.

    Art
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  126. edNels says:
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    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives. Whereas your pompous Mielkovsky (of Polish origin), Moldovan felon Avigdor Lieberman, and other Frenkels coming from families of GULAG organizers in Russia, are imposters of uncertain origin. They are suffering from an oversized lust for money and power and they are never tired of quetching on "eternal victimhood."

    The victims of the Victims were the victims of the (victims.)

    The modern Palestinians are the direct descendants of ancient Jews. – They are locals. They are natives.

    Who’s yer Uncle? Who’s on First?

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  127. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Hey , Russians don't need Jews to help them with their suicide, they are capable on their own . Russians have figured our splendid ways , constant vodka consumption, Krokodile , tfr of zero , homicide rate many times the Western rate.

    Arabs are good at killing themselves too. Assad regime has killed half a million , Bashir regime has accomplished even more and on a non state level , Muslims commit suicide bombings and jihading attacks daily .

    Hashemites occupy 78% of PaLiestine and anyway you don't care about PaLiestimian at all anyway , you Just hate Jews.

    “you just hate Jews”
    — The eternal special victimhood on display. You could try alia ?

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  128. L.K says:
    @RobinG

    progeny of ancient Jews ...
     
    I believe this "Anon" was referring to Palestinians.

    Did you get the sarcasm of the comment? Hard to tell. This whole thread is emblematic of the problem with anon posting. [Ex. comment #121, Anon v. Anon.]

    Agree, anon postings should not be allowed.

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  129. @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    [Weiss] fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century. . . [B]ecause so many groups [in the Hapsburg Empire] felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems.

    Agree in part with what you say above, but as Peter Drucker persuasively describes in his book, “The New Realities,” the Hapsburg Empire exerted a relatively light yoke on the non-Austrian and non-Hungarian nationalities that comprised it. And the most fervent demands for autonomy and eventually independence came not from the lower classes, but instead from the educated middle classes who most benefitted from the Empire’s supernational economic program. Drucker writes that the history of the Hapsburg Empire and others shows that “[a]s people become ‘westernized,’ more affluent, more mobile, more educated, they increasingly become more nationalist.”

    After the Hungarians gained political, linguistic and cultural autonomy in 1867, other nationalities — the Czechs first, then the Italians, the Croats, the Slovenes, the Poles — began demanding similar treatment. Drucker writes that the enlightened liberal elites in the Empire responded to these pressures in two ways. First, they pursued a policy of “economic development as a supernational bond of unity.” And second, they made many concessions to the cultural and political autonomy of the various nationalities. According to Drucker, “Half the universities in the Austrian Empire were non-German: [i.e.,] Hungarian, Czech, Slovenian, Croatian, Polish and Ukranian,” the “Austrian parliament accepted any number of languages,” and soldiers in the army were free to use their own national languages, other than a few German command words that they were required to learn and use.

    The economic policy was a great success in raising standards of living. Drucker writes that the Czech heartland of Bohemia experienced phenomenal industrial growth after 1870, and by 1914 had equaled Germany and surpassed France in standard of living. Slovenia and Croatia also saw rapid economic growth in that period, as did the area around Cracow, Poland.

    But instead of appeasing the nationalities, affluence and relative political and cultural autonomy only increased the demands for more autonomy and eventually for total independence. Drucker writes that those demands did not originate with the peasants or the proletariat, but instead with the bourgeoisie, “and especially of the educated middle class of merchants, plant managers, professionals,” who were the first beneficiaries of economic growth.

    Drucker writes that what happened in British India followed the same pattern. The Brits decided to promote economic development so as to offer Indians tangible benefits of British rule, by constructing railways and ports, creating rural cooperatives and engineering schools, encouraging the export of Indian crops, and founding the Indian Congress that brought together British and educated Indians to implement these policies. The economic and social results were substantial, but politically these efforts spawned the Indian independence movement that in 1947 ousted the British. Almost all leaders of the Independence movement served in the Indian Congress.

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    Agree in part with what you say above, but as Peter Drucker persuasively describes in his book, “The New Realities,” the Hapsburg Empire exerted a relatively light yoke on the non-Austrian and non-Hungarian nationalities that comprised it.

    That may well be true, but it is when the 'oppression' is lightest that the opposition is most confident.
    Historians say the British were very tolerant of the American Colonies, but the revolutionaries made a mountain out of a molehill. And look at BLM. Blacks were less rebellious when the oppression was real but are now flipping out over the most trivial thing because they feel confident in badmouthing 'honkey'.

    The Austrians were tolerant as imperialists, but that just added more fuel to the radicals and revolutionaries. Same thing with the Russian Tsar. He was very tolerant compared to Stalin, but he was overthrown whereas the people all bowed down to Stalin.
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  130. DB Cooper says:

    By the way in case people here don’t know, Europeans altitude toward Israel were rather ambivalent until the massacre at Sabra and Shatila in 1982 in which thousands of Palestinians, old and young, women and children were rounded up and massacred in the refugee camps. This changes EVERYTHING. For the first time after WWII Europeans demonstrated en masse across major European cities protesting Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians. Like Chas Freeman has said, the present policy of Israel is unsustainable and whatever backlashes the Israeli faces in the future they have no one to blame but themselves.

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  131. L.K says:
    @Anon
    "" I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers""

    What is stopping you other than the fact that you are an impotent liar and a sissy . You are capable of displaying your impotent rage and frustrations by posting comments online , nothing more lol. Do you wear a keffiyeh when you post your rants looollllololzlzlLz

    You are projecting, scum.

    Liars and sissies are assholes such as yourself, who support this ongoing obscenity done to the Palestinians by “Israel”.

    You guys are good at tormenting women, children & civilians in general… when faced by people who know how to fight back, then it is a different story…

    This interview with a Hezbollah soldier who fought in the Battle of Ayta ash-Sha’b, sums up the IDF sissies best, @2:35
    With a smile, the Hezbollah trooper says:
    We have seen them(israeli soldiers) fleeing like sheep. And it may be that the sheep by the end got used to the sound of bombing and wasn’t affected by it anymore. While the israeli soldier, you could hear his screams from hundreds of meters away when he was targeted.”

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    [Proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar are strongly encouraged if you want your comments published. Also, allcaps is shouting, and too much shouting may get your comments trashed.]

    The double amputee story disappeared quickly and now the 16 year old abed story is streaming.....thats why this article is called "never ending"

    continous palestinian PROPAGANDA. .THE never ending stream of made for internet streaming.also known as FINE
    FAKE INTERNATIONAL NEWS ENABLING

    youtube videos...THE SLAP.....in the year of the meto#.so where is this all leading.i tell you where.
    abed tamimi is being primed to accuse israeli soldiers of sexual harassment.solely as a propaganda strategy to appeal to anerican woman
    THEREFORE I WARN ISRAELI LEADERS TO TREAD CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE HER AND HER FAMILY NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ISRAELI MALES WITHOUT WITNESSES PRESENT
    , @Anon
    So when are you signing up for Hamas , sissy ? You threatened to once already lol. You kill me acting tough lolol.
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  132. mcohen says:
    @L.K
    You are projecting, scum.

    Liars and sissies are assholes such as yourself, who support this ongoing obscenity done to the Palestinians by "Israel".

    You guys are good at tormenting women, children & civilians in general... when faced by people who know how to fight back, then it is a different story...

    This interview with a Hezbollah soldier who fought in the Battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b, sums up the IDF sissies best, @2:35
    With a smile, the Hezbollah trooper says:
    "We have seen them(israeli soldiers) fleeing like sheep. And it may be that the sheep by the end got used to the sound of bombing and wasn't affected by it anymore. While the israeli soldier, you could hear his screams from hundreds of meters away when he was targeted."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZNViirWTnk

    [Proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar are strongly encouraged if you want your comments published. Also, allcaps is shouting, and too much shouting may get your comments trashed.]

    The double amputee story disappeared quickly and now the 16 year old abed story is streaming…..thats why this article is called “never ending”

    continous palestinian PROPAGANDA. .THE never ending stream of made for internet streaming.also known as FINE
    FAKE INTERNATIONAL NEWS ENABLING

    youtube videos…THE SLAP…..in the year of the meto#.so where is this all leading.i tell you where.
    abed tamimi is being primed to accuse israeli soldiers of sexual harassment.solely as a propaganda strategy to appeal to anerican woman
    THEREFORE I WARN ISRAELI LEADERS TO TREAD CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE HER AND HER FAMILY NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ISRAELI MALES WITHOUT WITNESSES PRESENT

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    Damn, the brain maggot is claiming many victims at unz.
    , @Druid
    That's a McJoke!!!!
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  133. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    You are projecting, scum.

    Liars and sissies are assholes such as yourself, who support this ongoing obscenity done to the Palestinians by "Israel".

    You guys are good at tormenting women, children & civilians in general... when faced by people who know how to fight back, then it is a different story...

    This interview with a Hezbollah soldier who fought in the Battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b, sums up the IDF sissies best, @2:35
    With a smile, the Hezbollah trooper says:
    "We have seen them(israeli soldiers) fleeing like sheep. And it may be that the sheep by the end got used to the sound of bombing and wasn't affected by it anymore. While the israeli soldier, you could hear his screams from hundreds of meters away when he was targeted."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZNViirWTnk

    So when are you signing up for Hamas , sissy ? You threatened to once already lol. You kill me acting tough lolol.

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    I threatened to join Hamas? Really? Where, Pinocchio?

    Here is what I said:

    "If I were a Palestinian I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers…"

    Obviously I'm not a Palestinian. I'm a Westerner with no ties to the Middle East. I care about what you maggots do to them just like any informed, decent person would.

    I do not live under your jackboot. If I did, having the chance, I would opt for armed resistance, which in this case translates into self-defense, legal for anyone under an illegal occupation.
    , @Jaime
    You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I understood perfectly well what LK meant.
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    Requiem: “All those who sacrificed their lives to save Syria”

    http://thesaker.is/saker-man-of-the-year-2018-all-those-who-gave-their-lives-for-syria/

    “The man and women who gave their lives to save Syria did not just die fighting against arguably the most evil, maniacal and deranged terrorist insurgency in history (Daesh aka ISIS aka al-Qaeda aka al-Nusra and aka all the other rebrandings), but also against the AngloZionist Empire, against CENTCOM, against NATO, against the degenerate Gulf States and against the Zionist Entity. That is truly a formidable list of enemies and a truly abominable one.
    I have never had the chance to visit Syria, but I have had Syrian friends and I know how beautiful the Syrian people are. Make no mistake, these people faced total annihilation, no less, irrespective of whether they were Christian, Muslim or secular.”

    Comment section: Larchmonter445 — “Imagine the great human nobility of giving up one’s life for a foreign nation, for a nation attacked by overwhelming evil. Heroics does not explain the exquisite beauty and horror that such sacrifice entails. …. Only Russia could save the nation of Syrian peoples. And it has. Alawites, Armenians, Shiites, Christians, Sunnis, Kurds, and the tiny faiths and tribal elements that make the embroidery of SAR have been saved.
    Alas, the Hegemon and crazed neighbors of Syria are still determined to destroy Syria and remove the central government of Assad. We are in for more death and destruction in 2018. Lesson of Syria is there is no compromise possible with Evil. It must be vanquished completely.”

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  135. @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    Priss’s comments are always interesting, always provocative, and often brilliant.

    Weiss deserves credit for this article but he does end up sounding like a well-meaning, Diaspora Israeli. As Priss correctly notes, Weiss’s solutions to the conundrum in Israel/Palestine are ultimately doomed, especially when one considers the persistent and extraordinary levels of Jewish ethnocentrism, Jewish accomplishment and Jewish ambition.

    Jews, I suppose, deserve a nation of their own, if only because they are constantly at war (competing intensely) with their gentile neighbors. Jews act as a separate nation wherever they dwell. Ironically, Jews constantly lecture the world about ‘racism’. This is a sad, destructive and ridiculous fraud.

    As for the end of ethno-nationalism, this will never occur in countries that have not been contaminated by Jewish intellectuals (subversives) and Jewish radicals. Thus, the continuity of Chinese, Japanese and Korean societies are certain since Caucasian Jews cannot go into those countries and pose as ‘equal citizens’. Ethno-nationalism will endure in cohesive, homogeneous Asian societies (and certainly in tribal Israel) as well as all cultures/societies where Jews are absent. This is human nature speaking.

    Indeed, the case can be made that the modern ‘racist’ boogeyman concept is largely a Jewish invention. But it may soon die out due to its inherent flaws, contradictions and failures. Only the top-heavy SCOTUS stands in the way of the eventual return of freedom (of association) in America.

    In all due respect to Mr. Weiss, he should do two things if he is to remain credible to those of us in the alt-right community. First, he should stop referring to the ‘Holocaust’ as the if it is truly the most significant tragedy and defining event in modern history. This is sheer moral fakery.

    The Jewish experience during WWII has been excessively elevated and dramatized for political purposes. As bad as the treatment that some Jews received towards the the end of that gargantuan effort at international, militarized mass murder (this is what wars are) the suffering by humanity during WWII alone probably surpasses the suffering of all Jews in all of human history. For instance, in the 20th century alone, some 240,000,000 human beings perished in wars. Yet the Holocaust narrative wants us only remember Jewish victims. This is Jewish supremacism.

    Indeed, the official ‘Holocaust’ narrative as presented is a manipulative attempt by organized Jewry to elevate and inject the concept 1) of pure Jewish innocence and 2) unique Jewish suffering into the bloodiest episodes (WWI and WWII) in human history. It deserves a real downgrading. This will not be easy however. Oversized Jewish political power relies heavily on ‘The Holocaust’. But an honest reading of history is essential is we are to regain control of our own civilization.

    Tragically, ‘The Holocaust’ is a modern, Jewish attempt to trivialize non-Jewish suffering and victimhood while simultaneously erasing Jewish culpability for major meltdowns where Jews played a heavy role, including the ‘Russian (Jewish) Revolution’.

    The ubiquitous, kosher spin on modern ‘history’ is also an expression of Jewish supremacism. Their uncompromising mindset has invaded every crevice of Official History in modern America.
    Even Weiss falls into this trap.

    Indeed, the diabolical role that some Jews played in various wars, conflicts, embargos, financial shenanigans and revolutions over the past century makes them, in many respects, fair game. For all their talents, Jews have been an intermittent plague on Western civilization since time immemorial.
    The ascendency of the war-happy neoconservatives is yet another example of this phenomena. Weiss should acknowledge this.

    Lastly, if all Jews are entitled to an automatic ‘right to return’ to Israel, efforts should be made to encourage all Jews to go live in Israel. Their hyper-ethnocentrism makes them less-than-ideal ‘fellow citizens’. And we should insist that Israel finally define its borders. No actual borders gives Israel license to steal more land.

    In the meantime, no Jew should be allowed to hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Their dual loyalties have already caused needless wars and immense suffering in Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. American lives, too, have been lost. Zionism is a political cancer in Washington and beyond. It is part of a criminal enterprise that must be resisted. Millions have perished and millions of more lives are at stake.

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    [You had already been warned about the consequences of totally ignoring good standards of capitalization, punctuation, spacing, and grammar.]
    , @Twodees Partain
    Priss' (note proper punctuation) comments are usually articles that he would post on his own site if he could get anyone to read them there. The trouble with such comments in a comment section is that it uses column space that must be scrolled past if the reader isn't interested in reading such a long entry.

    A long response isn't always out of order, as long as it's on topic. An article length response, on the other hand, isn't necessary and can be a little off-putting to participants who aren't interested in reading it.
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  136. iffen says:
    @mcohen
    [Proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar are strongly encouraged if you want your comments published. Also, allcaps is shouting, and too much shouting may get your comments trashed.]

    The double amputee story disappeared quickly and now the 16 year old abed story is streaming.....thats why this article is called "never ending"

    continous palestinian PROPAGANDA. .THE never ending stream of made for internet streaming.also known as FINE
    FAKE INTERNATIONAL NEWS ENABLING

    youtube videos...THE SLAP.....in the year of the meto#.so where is this all leading.i tell you where.
    abed tamimi is being primed to accuse israeli soldiers of sexual harassment.solely as a propaganda strategy to appeal to anerican woman
    THEREFORE I WARN ISRAELI LEADERS TO TREAD CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE HER AND HER FAMILY NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ISRAELI MALES WITHOUT WITNESSES PRESENT

    Damn, the brain maggot is claiming many victims at unz.

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    Indeed and whats really a shame is that salafi ideology is slowly but surely chewing away at their testicles on the quiet.

    Oh ,the chains ,the chains.
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  137. MEexpert says:
    @Art
    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!


    The fact that the girl has been wronged must not be talked about.

    With the Jew, it is always about organic identity – divide divide divide – conquer conquer conquer.

    They never want to talk right and wrong – those arguments they always lose.

    Wherever there is wrongful dirty dealing, wherever there is something dark – you will find a Jew.

    Currently they are leading humanity backwards into more hate and more war.

    Think Peace --- Art

    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!

    If the white supremacist Aryan Nation ever learn their world history and find out that the Aryan ancestors that they are so proud of came from Asia they probably will commit suicide. Even today, if you go the mountains of Northwest Pakistan you will find blonde haired/blue eyed families all over.

    The late Shah of Iran was descendant of these Aryans and one of his many titles was “Aryamehr,” i.e. the Light of the Aryans.

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    In my travels around the Mediterranean, I've noticed more than a few light skinned, blond, blue eyed folks as well.

    I guess it comes as a shock to some that the Palestinian goyim are human beings too!
    , @angustry
    Aryans originated in the Asian/Mongolian steppes .... migrated to India & Iran then off to Europe ... which is why Hitler was so interested in India ....... EVOLVING UP all the way
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  138. @RealAmerican
    This is the kind of article that exemplifies the traditional, gentle, and progressive spirit of Judaism as I understood it at one time. Is it not delusional to believe that tiny Israel will forever be able to dominate the Middle East which is inhabited by over 300 million Arabs, mostly young. Add to that Persian Iran, Israel's arch-enemy of 70 millions, and the remainder one billion Muslims in North Africa and Asia.
    Americans at present do not give a damn about Palestinians and Muslims, but there is no guaranty that they would not regard Israel in the same fashion at some point in the future.
    So, yes, young American Jews should talk to their parents about the persecution of Ahed Tamimi, and the murder and maiming of thousands of children like her at the hands of heavily armed occupying Israeli soldiers.

    Do you really think for half a second that Phil Weiss wringing his hands about the obvious conflicts of Zionism is actually going to change anything here? A few names might bring you to your senses: Saban, Adelman, Kushner, Miller, Gordon, Friedman, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Zuckerman, Marcus…

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  139. Druid says:
    @Greg Bacon
    Close to 200 nations in the world, yet all we hear about--in the West--on a daily basis is how Israel reacted to this or how Netanyahu views that or will Israel invade Lebanon AGAIN or maybe bomb Iran.

    I for one am sick and tired of hearing constantly the whining, self-pitying, war mongering and aggrandizement coming from Israel and her Jewish supporters.

    It's like we're all trapped in a lunatic asylum with the biggest loony always babbling about how their pain is the only pain that counts.

    No wonder Jews have been kicked out of over 100 nations over the centuries.

    Me too. Totally agree!

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  140. mcohen says:
    @iffen
    Damn, the brain maggot is claiming many victims at unz.

    Indeed and whats really a shame is that salafi ideology is slowly but surely chewing away at their testicles on the quiet.

    Oh ,the chains ,the chains.

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  141. L.K says:
    @Anon
    So when are you signing up for Hamas , sissy ? You threatened to once already lol. You kill me acting tough lolol.

    I threatened to join Hamas? Really? Where, Pinocchio?

    Here is what I said:

    If I were a Palestinian I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers…”

    Obviously I’m not a Palestinian. I’m a Westerner with no ties to the Middle East. I care about what you maggots do to them just like any informed, decent person would.

    I do not live under your jackboot. If I did, having the chance, I would opt for armed resistance, which in this case translates into self-defense, legal for anyone under an illegal occupation.

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    You don't care about occupation or struggles , because if you did PaLiestine would be at the bottom of your list.
    Nigerian occupation of Biafra:2million+ killed
    Sudanese occupation of Darfur 1million + killed
    Indonesia occupation of Papua 500,000+ killed
    Russian occupation of Chechnya 150,000+ killed
    Israel PaLiestine conflict 23,000 killed

    You only whine about one . The one with the least amount of casualties. Least by far. If you care so much about them join Hamas and cuck for Islam. They accept WN cucks to be their useful idiots. Grab your posting keffiyeh and buy a ticket !!!
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  142. Druid says:
    @Glenfilthie
    Why was the fourteen year old shot?

    It’s only a sin to misrepresent the facts when the eeeeevil jooos do it. It’ll turn out the same way these things always do: the left wing f-knuckles will tell us the teen was an innocent child with a bright future, and when the facts come out it’ll turn out that he had a rap sheet as long as your arm, and was trying to kill someone when some IDF saint put the Palestinkian down.

    The Palestinians lie like sidewalks too,

    Facts please, or do you just choose to lie, Ziofascist troll

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  143. Druid says:
    @utu
    but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you

    Have you heard about false flag operations, poor woman? Like for instance the Operation Susannah when Isareli operatives were planting bombs in public places in Egypt:

    As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.
     
    Fortunately the operation was quickly compromised and the plotters were arrested.

    The Operation Susannah took place in 1954. Are you sure there were no other operations conducted by Israel or the US since that were terrorist in nature? Are you sure that 9/11 was not a false flag?

    Just like 911.

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  144. Druid says:
    @geokat62

    Just sit quietly, hands folded in lap, and imagine a world without an Israel. Just sit and think. Don’t jump up and say something. Just think about it.
     
    Wasn't Zionism supposed to resolve the JQ? If there is no Israel, how do you propose to resolve the JQ?

    Just think about it.

    Easy. By send the Ziofascists to your home town

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  145. Druid says:
    @Bill Jones
    The vomiting of Israel onto the people of Palestine was the biggest fuckup since WWII.

    Yes, and followed by Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and now Syria. The last three the dirty work for the Zios

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  146. This is from Uri Avnery’s take on the situation.

    The army was shocked by the fact that the two soldiers did not shoot the girl. It promised an investigation. The girl and her mother were detained that night. The soldiers are in for a rebuke.

    http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1513957629

    Avnery is a reformed Irgun (Zionist) terrorist and is always well worth a read.

    UR ought to publish him as well.

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  147. @MEexpert

    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!
     
    If the white supremacist Aryan Nation ever learn their world history and find out that the Aryan ancestors that they are so proud of came from Asia they probably will commit suicide. Even today, if you go the mountains of Northwest Pakistan you will find blonde haired/blue eyed families all over.

    The late Shah of Iran was descendant of these Aryans and one of his many titles was "Aryamehr," i.e. the Light of the Aryans.

    In my travels around the Mediterranean, I’ve noticed more than a few light skinned, blond, blue eyed folks as well.

    I guess it comes as a shock to some that the Palestinian goyim are human beings too!

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  148. Druid says:
    @Anon
    Indeed, the east European Jewish shtetls of 19th century wer akin the Arab ghettoes in western Europe today. It is unfortunate that the ancient animosity between these two blood cousins, Jews and Arabs, has saddled the US and EU with enormous problems.

    Those “ghettos ” we’re self-made by their rabbis because they did not want their guys to assimilate. This crap about imposition of ghettos on them is a Zio lie! Then they use the lie to their advantage. Win both ways, the Jewish way!

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  149. @Anon
    "" I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers""

    What is stopping you other than the fact that you are an impotent liar and a sissy . You are capable of displaying your impotent rage and frustrations by posting comments online , nothing more lol. Do you wear a keffiyeh when you post your rants looollllololzlzlLz

    What is stopping you…

    What’s stopping all the Izzie -first cheerleaders from joining the lethal and sadistic pack of cowards known as the IDF?

    And what’s stopping the IDF gang of thugs, terrorists and extortionists from fighting their own wars with their own bodies and treasure?

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    You whine a lot Jack. If Israel's army is bad , how much worse is : Russia's , Chinas , Indonesia's , Turkeys , Sudan's , Nigeria's , Moroccos . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven't I seen you whine about them ,?

    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.

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  150. Druid says:
    @mcohen
    [Proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar are strongly encouraged if you want your comments published. Also, allcaps is shouting, and too much shouting may get your comments trashed.]

    The double amputee story disappeared quickly and now the 16 year old abed story is streaming.....thats why this article is called "never ending"

    continous palestinian PROPAGANDA. .THE never ending stream of made for internet streaming.also known as FINE
    FAKE INTERNATIONAL NEWS ENABLING

    youtube videos...THE SLAP.....in the year of the meto#.so where is this all leading.i tell you where.
    abed tamimi is being primed to accuse israeli soldiers of sexual harassment.solely as a propaganda strategy to appeal to anerican woman
    THEREFORE I WARN ISRAELI LEADERS TO TREAD CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE HER AND HER FAMILY NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ISRAELI MALES WITHOUT WITNESSES PRESENT

    That’s a McJoke!!!!

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    All good . said what i needed to say
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  151. @utu
    You forgot about the most important part. The creation of the Jewish state whether in Israel or anywhere else (Uganda or Madagascar) should have been permitted under one condition that all Jews would relocate there, i.e., no more diaspora Jews. Jewish state makes only sense if it frees gentiles from all the blessings of having Jews in their own states.

    Hitler saw through Zionism:


    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html
    The Jew's domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
     

    Utu, excellent job, sir! Fan-flippin-tastic.

    He also saw through the international bankster scam and rebuilt Germany, (during the Great Depression no less), outside of its clutches. That alone made him more eligible for crucifixion than the carpenter’s kid.

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  152. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    I threatened to join Hamas? Really? Where, Pinocchio?

    Here is what I said:

    "If I were a Palestinian I woulda long ago joined Hamas or any other armed militia and would do my best to kill these fuckers…"

    Obviously I'm not a Palestinian. I'm a Westerner with no ties to the Middle East. I care about what you maggots do to them just like any informed, decent person would.

    I do not live under your jackboot. If I did, having the chance, I would opt for armed resistance, which in this case translates into self-defense, legal for anyone under an illegal occupation.

    You don’t care about occupation or struggles , because if you did PaLiestine would be at the bottom of your list.
    Nigerian occupation of Biafra:2million+ killed
    Sudanese occupation of Darfur 1million + killed
    Indonesia occupation of Papua 500,000+ killed
    Russian occupation of Chechnya 150,000+ killed
    Israel PaLiestine conflict 23,000 killed

    You only whine about one . The one with the least amount of casualties. Least by far. If you care so much about them join Hamas and cuck for Islam. They accept WN cucks to be their useful idiots. Grab your posting keffiyeh and buy a ticket !!!

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    You only whine about one .
     
    So yer whining about the paucity of whining? That's interesting.

    How do you know that any of us whine about only one?

    Do you yourself whine about any holocausts other than the Shoa?

    Do you ever whine about the tens of millions of Christians murdered as a result of Bolshie agitation?

    Explain.

    Hint: The topic on this thread is what?

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  153. mcohen says:
    @Mark Green
    Priss's comments are always interesting, always provocative, and often brilliant.

    Weiss deserves credit for this article but he does end up sounding like a well-meaning, Diaspora Israeli. As Priss correctly notes, Weiss's solutions to the conundrum in Israel/Palestine are ultimately doomed, especially when one considers the persistent and extraordinary levels of Jewish ethnocentrism, Jewish accomplishment and Jewish ambition.

    Jews, I suppose, deserve a nation of their own, if only because they are constantly at war (competing intensely) with their gentile neighbors. Jews act as a separate nation wherever they dwell. Ironically, Jews constantly lecture the world about 'racism'. This is a sad, destructive and ridiculous fraud.

    As for the end of ethno-nationalism, this will never occur in countries that have not been contaminated by Jewish intellectuals (subversives) and Jewish radicals. Thus, the continuity of Chinese, Japanese and Korean societies are certain since Caucasian Jews cannot go into those countries and pose as 'equal citizens'. Ethno-nationalism will endure in cohesive, homogeneous Asian societies (and certainly in tribal Israel) as well as all cultures/societies where Jews are absent. This is human nature speaking.

    Indeed, the case can be made that the modern 'racist' boogeyman concept is largely a Jewish invention. But it may soon die out due to its inherent flaws, contradictions and failures. Only the top-heavy SCOTUS stands in the way of the eventual return of freedom (of association) in America.

    In all due respect to Mr. Weiss, he should do two things if he is to remain credible to those of us in the alt-right community. First, he should stop referring to the 'Holocaust' as the if it is truly the most significant tragedy and defining event in modern history. This is sheer moral fakery.

    The Jewish experience during WWII has been excessively elevated and dramatized for political purposes. As bad as the treatment that some Jews received towards the the end of that gargantuan effort at international, militarized mass murder (this is what wars are) the suffering by humanity during WWII alone probably surpasses the suffering of all Jews in all of human history. For instance, in the 20th century alone, some 240,000,000 human beings perished in wars. Yet the Holocaust narrative wants us only remember Jewish victims. This is Jewish supremacism.

    Indeed, the official 'Holocaust' narrative as presented is a manipulative attempt by organized Jewry to elevate and inject the concept 1) of pure Jewish innocence and 2) unique Jewish suffering into the bloodiest episodes (WWI and WWII) in human history. It deserves a real downgrading. This will not be easy however. Oversized Jewish political power relies heavily on 'The Holocaust'. But an honest reading of history is essential is we are to regain control of our own civilization.

    Tragically, 'The Holocaust' is a modern, Jewish attempt to trivialize non-Jewish suffering and victimhood while simultaneously erasing Jewish culpability for major meltdowns where Jews played a heavy role, including the 'Russian (Jewish) Revolution'.

    The ubiquitous, kosher spin on modern 'history' is also an expression of Jewish supremacism. Their uncompromising mindset has invaded every crevice of Official History in modern America.
    Even Weiss falls into this trap.

    Indeed, the diabolical role that some Jews played in various wars, conflicts, embargos, financial shenanigans and revolutions over the past century makes them, in many respects, fair game. For all their talents, Jews have been an intermittent plague on Western civilization since time immemorial.
    The ascendency of the war-happy neoconservatives is yet another example of this phenomena. Weiss should acknowledge this.

    Lastly, if all Jews are entitled to an automatic 'right to return' to Israel, efforts should be made to encourage all Jews to go live in Israel. Their hyper-ethnocentrism makes them less-than-ideal 'fellow citizens'. And we should insist that Israel finally define its borders. No actual borders gives Israel license to steal more land.

    In the meantime, no Jew should be allowed to hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Their dual loyalties have already caused needless wars and immense suffering in Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. American lives, too, have been lost. Zionism is a political cancer in Washington and beyond. It is part of a criminal enterprise that must be resisted. Millions have perished and millions of more lives are at stake.

    [You had already been warned about the consequences of totally ignoring good standards of capitalization, punctuation, spacing, and grammar.]

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    C'mon! The guy is obviously superior to the rest of us and the rules are for everyone else!

    Geez, ed, can't you give special treatment where it's obviously due? ;)
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  154. @mcohen
    Good essay.you did underestimate the power of relegion and that prevented the all out ethnic cleansing.the utopian concept of a holy land meets imperialism.vatican?mecca?
    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.

    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.

    It will? When?

    You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a “holy” land for Judaism? Especially since Jews were living in Palestine and shared a holy land there long before the Ziofreaks stuck their noses where they had no business?

    Wouldn’t that be a job for Yahweh, or at least for people who actually believe in the dude?

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    Hey Jacques,

    "You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a “holy” land for Judaism?"

    Let's say the Zio-creeps do speak for a considerable number of Jews. All the odd 300 Jew organizations in the ZUS do support Israel, as do most Jew organizations in the diaspora outside the ZUSA.
    These organizations in turn, are supported by a significant contingent of the chosenites... plus another contingent of really disgusting Shabbos goyim(these are the worst for me).

    You are certainly correct that many Zionists are atheists, but a lot of them, even more so in Israel, are not.
    Nor is it a problem only with the Ashkenazi Jews.

    Israeli Sephardic leader & Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, famous for his brilliant statements, such as - “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” - died in Israel in 2013 and was honored with "Israel's largest ever funeral procession"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1kM0Tr42s
    , @L.K
    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon wrote:

    As we all know our Jewish ‘anti’ Zionists (JVP, IJAN, Mondoweiss etc’) insist that Zionism should be regarded as an anomaly within the wide context of Jewish culture and religion. They are clearly spinning – Israel is the Jewish State, it kills and slaughter in the name of the Jews, its airplanes and tanks are decorated with Jewish symbols, its crimes are, unfortunately, consistent with some bloodthirsty Old Testament and Talmudic verses. As I mention before, some Orthodox Jews interpret those vile verses differently. However, Israel clearly transforms Deuteronomy into a murderous practical reality.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt2mtnLJO70
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  155. @Anon
    Hmmmmm were Jewish ghetto dwellers driving trucks into crowds , shooting up concerts and jihading it up ???

    EU problem is being Islamophiles while simultaneously having .007 tfr. Bad combination. Don't need Jews to screw over the eu when they can do a great job all by themselves. The more they are cheerleaders for Islam the worse off they get by the hands of Muslims . But they will never learn.

    Hmmmmm were Jewish ghetto dwellers driving trucks into crowds , shooting up concerts and jihading it up ???

    Maybe not the ghetto dwellers themselves , but have you ever heard of terrorists blowing up hotels and placing bombs in market places? How about the attack on the USS Liberty? What were those white vans with pictures of planes flying near skyscrapers that Israelis were driving in NYC around the time of 9/11 used for? You think they were merely bagel delivery vans?

    You may want to Google “Irgun,” “Palmach,” and “Mossad” for starters. Curiosity can be a friend…

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  156. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    What is stopping you...
     
    What's stopping all the Izzie -first cheerleaders from joining the lethal and sadistic pack of cowards known as the IDF?

    And what's stopping the IDF gang of thugs, terrorists and extortionists from fighting their own wars with their own bodies and treasure?

    You whine a lot Jack. If Israel’s army is bad , how much worse is : Russia’s , Chinas , Indonesia’s , Turkeys , Sudan’s , Nigeria’s , Moroccos . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven’t I seen you whine about them ,?

    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.

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    You whine a lot Jack.
     
    Coming from the "eternal victim's" chorus, that's quite a charge.

    Why are you whining about my "whining? "Sounds like projection to me, and I'm being generous.

    Sigh, I guess "whining" is not for the goyim; whining's only for the"chosen" victims. Sorry, I keep forgetting.


    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.
     
    It's even more pathetic to claim victory when the fat girl ain't done singing, and worse to apologize for thugs who have no interest in your welfare. I guess the Izzie-first dupes aren't too bright after all, even if they claim victimhood and special "chosenness."

    Why are you cucking out for the Zio-swine? It's as risible as it is sad.

    , @Anonymous
    "Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat...
    -- You mean the exposure of Israeli’ perfidy in Syria? Or you want to remind the readers about Israeli brass' open admission of their preference for ISIS over sovereign Syria?
    In the Middle East, the ongoing wars for Israel produced some 4 mln deaths, mostly civilians of ALL ages. And yet you are quetching about alleged insensitivity and even injustice towards the bloody supremacist Israel. Your parasitic Lobby has corrupted the US Congress and military: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/11/have-the-us-militry-gone-zionist.html
    Why don't you deal with your cousins, the Arabs, on your own, without spilling American/European blood and looting the US treasury?
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  157. @Anon
    You whine a lot Jack. If Israel's army is bad , how much worse is : Russia's , Chinas , Indonesia's , Turkeys , Sudan's , Nigeria's , Moroccos . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven't I seen you whine about them ,?

    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.

    You whine a lot Jack.

    Coming from the “eternal victim’s” chorus, that’s quite a charge.

    Why are you whining about my “whining? “Sounds like projection to me, and I’m being generous.

    Sigh, I guess “whining” is not for the goyim; whining’s only for the”chosen” victims. Sorry, I keep forgetting.

    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.

    It’s even more pathetic to claim victory when the fat girl ain’t done singing, and worse to apologize for thugs who have no interest in your welfare. I guess the Izzie-first dupes aren’t too bright after all, even if they claim victimhood and special “chosenness.”

    Why are you cucking out for the Zio-swine? It’s as risible as it is sad.

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  158. @mcohen
    [You had already been warned about the consequences of totally ignoring good standards of capitalization, punctuation, spacing, and grammar.]

    C’mon! The guy is obviously superior to the rest of us and the rules are for everyone else!

    Geez, ed, can’t you give special treatment where it’s obviously due? ;)

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  159. @Anon
    You don't care about occupation or struggles , because if you did PaLiestine would be at the bottom of your list.
    Nigerian occupation of Biafra:2million+ killed
    Sudanese occupation of Darfur 1million + killed
    Indonesia occupation of Papua 500,000+ killed
    Russian occupation of Chechnya 150,000+ killed
    Israel PaLiestine conflict 23,000 killed

    You only whine about one . The one with the least amount of casualties. Least by far. If you care so much about them join Hamas and cuck for Islam. They accept WN cucks to be their useful idiots. Grab your posting keffiyeh and buy a ticket !!!

    You only whine about one .

    So yer whining about the paucity of whining? That’s interesting.

    How do you know that any of us whine about only one?

    Do you yourself whine about any holocausts other than the Shoa?

    Do you ever whine about the tens of millions of Christians murdered as a result of Bolshie agitation?

    Explain.

    Hint: The topic on this thread is what?

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  160. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Come on Jack . As a caring humanitarian who has spilt gallons of tears for PaLiestinians , do tell why you care not for these conflicts and occupation which all have death tolls 100x higher than Israel ?

    If Israel’s army is bad , how much worse is : Russia’s occupation of Chechnya , Chinas occupation of Tibet , Indonesia’s occupation of Papua , Turkeys occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan, Sudan’s occupation of Darfur , Nigeria’s occupation of Biafra, Moroccos occupation of Western Sahara . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven’t I seen you whine about them ,?

    Btw I never claimed victory only that the WN crowd admitted defeat and now resigns itself to cuck/cheerlead for Islam . Pathetic actually. Wake up White man lololzlzlz

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    do tell why you care not for these conflicts and occupation which all have death tolls
     
    Do tell why you insist on repeating such an absurd and asinine charge?

    Do tell why you can do no better than make specious claims and silly equivalencies.

    Do tell why you answer none of my questions.

    Do tell why you apologize for Izzie crimes.

    Note: In the future, if you don't want to be ignored, then attempt to make a reasonable statement and add something to the discussion. And quit whining.
    , @Zumbuddi
    The destruction of culture, infrastructure and millions of innocent people in Germany, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon; threats to Iran -- all go on Jewish - Israel scorecard.
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  161. Wally says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Thanks, Wally. I was waiting for your post. The holocaust is not a proven fact and should not be passed off as one!

    Certainly, and Merry Christmas.

    Get involved, let’s bring the Big Lie monstrosity down. It’s just not that difficult.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5102/?lang=en

    ‘Matter of Censorship should be a worry to us all’
    By French Singer Alison Chabloz

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    Your work is bearing fruit Wally. In my kids school they replaced the Holocaust and WW2 curriculum with a new course entitled "Holohoax 101" . I hear they are going to roll it out for the whole public school system for the whole country in 2019 school year !!!!

    Can you make a website dedicated to the French Revolution hoax and also A WW1 hoax site ? Let's not waste the momentum !!!!
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Not much point in debating the “5M others” part, as Jewish organizations themselves acknowledge it’s a fabrication:

    https://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians
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  162. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    Certainly, and Merry Christmas.

    Get involved, let's bring the Big Lie monstrosity down. It's just not that difficult.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5102/?lang=en
    'Matter of Censorship should be a worry to us all'
    By French Singer Alison Chabloz

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Your work is bearing fruit Wally. In my kids school they replaced the Holocaust and WW2 curriculum with a new course entitled “Holohoax 101″ . I hear they are going to roll it out for the whole public school system for the whole country in 2019 school year !!!!

    Can you make a website dedicated to the French Revolution hoax and also A WW1 hoax site ? Let’s not waste the momentum !!!!

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  163. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.
     
    It will? When?

    You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a "holy" land for Judaism? Especially since Jews were living in Palestine and shared a holy land there long before the Ziofreaks stuck their noses where they had no business?

    Wouldn't that be a job for Yahweh, or at least for people who actually believe in the dude?

    Hey Jacques,

    “You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a “holy” land for Judaism?”

    Let’s say the Zio-creeps do speak for a considerable number of Jews. All the odd 300 Jew organizations in the ZUS do support Israel, as do most Jew organizations in the diaspora outside the ZUSA.
    These organizations in turn, are supported by a significant contingent of the chosenites… plus another contingent of really disgusting Shabbos goyim(these are the worst for me).

    You are certainly correct that many Zionists are atheists, but a lot of them, even more so in Israel, are not.
    Nor is it a problem only with the Ashkenazi Jews.

    Israeli Sephardic leader & Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, famous for his brilliant statements, such as – “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” – died in Israel in 2013 and was honored with “Israel’s largest ever funeral procession”…

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    """"Shabbos goyim(these are the worst for me).""""

    A cuck/cheerleader for Islam dislikes Shabbos goys ???

    Oy vey , that takes the cake !!!!
    Hey cakes go in ovens !!!! Double oy vey it's a cakeacaust hoax !!!!

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  164. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    Hey Jacques,

    "You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a “holy” land for Judaism?"

    Let's say the Zio-creeps do speak for a considerable number of Jews. All the odd 300 Jew organizations in the ZUS do support Israel, as do most Jew organizations in the diaspora outside the ZUSA.
    These organizations in turn, are supported by a significant contingent of the chosenites... plus another contingent of really disgusting Shabbos goyim(these are the worst for me).

    You are certainly correct that many Zionists are atheists, but a lot of them, even more so in Israel, are not.
    Nor is it a problem only with the Ashkenazi Jews.

    Israeli Sephardic leader & Rabbi, Ovadia Yosef, famous for his brilliant statements, such as - “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” - died in Israel in 2013 and was honored with "Israel's largest ever funeral procession"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1kM0Tr42s

    “”””Shabbos goyim(these are the worst for me).””””

    A cuck/cheerleader for Islam dislikes Shabbos goys ???

    Oy vey , that takes the cake !!!!
    Hey cakes go in ovens !!!! Double oy vey it’s a cakeacaust hoax !!!!

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  165. @Priss Factor
    There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start.

    Now, kudos to Weiss' sympathy for Palestinians. In US politics, Sympathy for Palestinians is forbidden and taboo. No mainstream politician will dare show any sympathy for them folks. They are all into Israel First, Israel First, Israel First.

    But Weiss' solutions are the problem. Indeed, they were the problems that led to this. Weiss is a universalist-imperialist who condemns nationalism and pushes for globalist open-borders. He fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century.

    Indeed, the current mess with Palestinians began with and under imperialism. That part of the world failed to develop into a viable political entity under the Ottoman Empire. And then, the British Empire allowed Zionists to 'immigrate' there and take over from Arabs. That was the origins of the disaster. It all happened under Imperial Rule. And of course, Israel is now backed by the US that is no longer a national entity but a war-mongering(culturally or militarily) hegemon that invades other nations militarily and financially and is invaded by other nations demographically.

    Weiss says the current plight of Palestinians is like what Jews suffered 100 yrs ago, but that's a misconception.
    For one thing, Palestinians are in their own lands, from which they've been evicted or on which they are occupied. Jews in Europe, in contrast, were living in other people's lands. The violent reactions against Jews in Europe were, in some respects, like Palestinian intifada against Zionists. This was made all the worse due to imperialism. Why did the worst outbreaks against Jews happen in Imperial Nations? Because so many ethnic groups felt occupied and came to regard Jews as collaborator agents. Any non-Austrian gentile who resented Austrian rule came to distrust Jews as the middlemen serving the empire. Or, it could be the other way around. The ruling ethnic group could come to regard Jews as radical agitators riling up the other groups against the imperial status quo.

    Despite certain ambivalence and even hostility toward Jews, sovereign nation-states treated Jews much better: UK, France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, and etc. France was known for 'notorious antisemitism', but it didn't have outbreaks of pogroms like in Eastern Europe where nationalism was suppressed by empires, either Germanic or Slavic. Granted, sometimes, Jews found the Imperial Order to their benefit. Diversity, as in Austro-Hungarian Empire, made it difficult for all gentiles to unite against Jews, as later were to happen in National Socialist Germany. The various gentile groups were too busy squabbling with each other to unite their forces against the Jews. But on the other hand, because so many groups felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems. Imperialist Diversity weakens national unity among goyim, but it also intensifies their rage and bitterness, and that can provide dry wood for massive conflagration. And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler's rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he'd grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians, even an ordinary civilian like Hitler could become ultra-ethnic in hostility. And WWI was the result of clash of empires, not of nations. Germans put pan-Germanicism above all else, and Russia pandered to Pan-Slavicism. And UK joined with France and Russia because it saw the rise of Germany as a threat to British Imperial Hegemony.

    Hitler had a chance of making National Socialism work, but because he grew up under Imperial Mentality, his ambitions spilled across German borders and targeted Czech nation, then Poland, and then even USSR. That was his undoing. He wasn't satisfied with German Nationalism. National Socialism turned into Imperial Racial Socialism for the 'Aryans'.

    But Jewish reaction to antisemitism also made the problem worse. It was right for powerful and influential Jews to do SOMETHING to help out their less fortunate brethren around the world. But what did Jacob Schiff's support of 'Russian' Revolution lead to? A totalitarian terror state where millions of people were sent to Gulag and where 100,000s were summarily executed by secret police. Pogroms were terrible but 1000s died. In contrast, the Soviet Revolution, considerably led by Jews, killed millions and destroyed tens of thousands of churches. It even killed every member of Tsar's family. Even the kids. This bad behavior on the part of Jews led many European conservatives to side with Fascists and National Socialists as the lesser to two evils. And given the record prior to WWII, that would have been the sane assessment since most of the mass horrors by then had been committed by communists, many of whom were Jewish.

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    Here, Weiss sort of hints at how today's problems are rooted in past reactions. Kafka obviously wasn't the only Jew who reacted to events by showing interest in Zionism. Zionism was a strange hybrid. It was a reaction against both Imperialism and Nationalism. In some ways, Jews were jumping on the Nationalist Bandwagon. With each ethnic group demanding their own nation-state and sovereignty -- further emboldened by Woodrow Wilson's idea of national self-determination following WWI -- , Jews figured they should demand their own nation too. But there was one problem. While Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Croatians, Poles, and etc could look at the soil beneath their feet and claim it as their ancestral homeland, Jews could make no such claim in Europe. So, they had to look elsewhere, the most meaningful place was obviously the Holy Land from which the Jewish people and culture originated.

    But even as Jews were joining with gentile groups who were calling for their own homelands, they were also reacting against gentile nationalism. Under Imperial rule, Jews could carry on as a nomadic mercurial group serving as middlemen among various folks. But with the rise of national borders, such ambiguous identity was becoming untenable. Gentile national identities could become hostile to Jewishness, and even this hostility had a duality. It loathed Jews as a stubborn ancient identity that refused to assimilate with gentiles and convert to Christianity, but it also loathed Jews as a mercurial zelig-like chameleon people who could adapt to any place and time.

    Anyway, because European Jews couldn't claim any land in Europe as their own, they couldn't just oppose imperialism. If Poles wanted Poland, all they had to do was oppose Russian and German imperialism. Once Russians and Germans were gone from Poland, it was Poland for the Polish.
    In contrast, even with the fall of empires, Jews were still without a nation of their own in Europe. They had to claim their homeland elsewhere, and it was the Holy Land. And since it was dominated by non-Jews, Jews needed the support of Imperialism to gain access to that land. Jews trickled in during Ottoman times, but it was under British Imperialist rule that Jews began to move into the land in much bigger numbers. Jews were looking to create a nationalist state but with the help of imperialism. Thus, Israel was created in the most paradoxical manner. It was to establish Jewish national sovereignty, but it could only be done by using an imperialist power to deny national sovereignty to the natives.

    This was all the more complicated because European Jews were both the most powerful and least powerful people. They were least powerful because they were minorities in all territories and had no land to claim as their own. Serbs and Slovaks were far less successful than Jews and had far less reach in financial & other terms, but they still could claim the soil under their feet as their homeland. They were rooted whereas Jews were rootless. This rootless was a huge disadvantage to Jews, but it was also why they'd grown so powerful. Unable to stake their wealth on rootedness to soil, Jewish wealth developed via networks. It was 'cloud-wealth', like Google offers cloud-computing. So, even if Jews got kicked out of a certain nation, they might still have wealth stored in international networks. Even if they lost their homes and personal properties, their bank accounts could be in London or Paris. In contrast, if a 'dumb Polack' lost his home and property, he really had nothing left. Jews had Cloud Wealth wheres gentile simpletons had Earth Wealth. To be sure, not all Jews had Cloud Wealth, and many in Eastern Europe were dirt-poor. But because the Jewish Network existed, they soon learned how to use it.

    This duality of Jews as the most powerful people(with financial stake in just about every European nation and kingdom) and least powerful people(as a folks without homeland) made things all that more complicated in relation to Zionism. On the one hand, it was weak Jews pleading for a homeland of their own. They were unfortunate unlike other European folks who could claim the land under their feet as their own. On the other hand, it was powerful Jews manipulating and bribing the Great European Empires to do the bidding of Jews... like what God did in the Exodus. Open up the seas and let Jews enter the Promised Land. It was a replay of Exodus -- and even called such by Leon Uris the novelist -- because the ancient story itself is paradoxical. On the one hand, Hebrews are a weak people in flight from the powerful Egyptian Military. On the other hand, Jews have God on their side, and the Egyptians have no chance.

    Anyway, if Weiss' point is that today's Jews must act on behalf of Palestinians like past Jews did for Jews-suffering-pogroms in Europe, he should think again because those efforts 100 yrs ago backfired horribly. It led to rise of communism and death of millions, and then the counter-reaction of rise of National Socialism that led to WWII. Looking back, Jews should have been sober in taking action. Jews overreacted and falsely blamed the Russian Tsar for the pogroms. This led to worldwide Jewish support for communism, the horror unleashed by which was many times worse than pogroms. And didn't Zionism that reclaimed the Holy Land lead to the current mess? If Jews really wanted a land of their own, rich and powerful Jews should have pooled their resources together to buy some land in some empty part of the world. A land the size of Israel in Australia, Canada, or some other part. With the power of the Rothchilds in the UK, I'm sure something like that could have been arranged. But Jews wanted the Holy Land. And this entailed war and ethnic cleansing. Worse, it led to occupation and Zionist imperialism on Muslim nations. Zionist nationalists asked for the white horse than took the cuddly pig. It's like the scene in VIVA ZAPATA where Brando's character offers a Mex kid a pig but the kid insists on the horse.

    https://youtu.be/6UBUxvKabKo?t=34m17s

    Jews could have asked for a nation in some inhabited part of the world, and then it would have been a peaceful piggy-wiggy nation. But they wanted the War Horse of the Holy Land, and they've been riding that horse and trampling on stuff all over.

    That said, what is done is done and can't be reversed. But Jews failed to do it right. Jews could have done two things. Call for peaceful co-existence with Arabs, but then this would have entailed NO MORE JEWISH IMMIGRATION. Arabs could have accepted a Jewish-Arab Holy Land IF Jews would stop immigration. But Jews wanted endless Right of Return to all Jews around the world to Palestine, and that was something Arabs could not accept.

    So, the inevitable result was war. But Jews didn't do this right. If you gonna ethnically cleanse a people, go all out. Kick them all out, like what Andrew Jackson did with the Indians. Instead, Jews expelled most but kept enough to cause lots of trouble. The Rule of History is, "If you are gonna do it(even if morally dubious), do it 'right' and go all the way, but if you feel it's wrong or not worth doing, don't do it at all." It's like US military involvement since end of WWII. It's been confused, with US committing enough to get embroiled in a big way but not doing enough to really finish the job. Look at the mess in Iraq. And before that, it was Vietnam. Kennedy was wise about Cuba. Once he decided it's not worth intervening, he gave up on it after of Bay of Pigs. It's like Chechnya. Russians had two choices: Just let it go and give it independence OR go in big and totally crush the rebellion. Neither is morally ideal, but there are times in history where being half-hearted about something leads to more problems.

    At any rate, if the purpose of Zionism was Jewish nationalism, Jews shot themselves in the foot by letting too many Arabs remain in Israel and then occupying West Bank. The ONLY sensible reason for Israel's conquest of West Bank in 1967 would have been to push the remaining Arabs in Israel into it. Instead, Jews colonized the land, and now Jews got Diversity Hell in both Israel and West Bank. Diversity leads to trouble.

    Peace Now urges separation: “the occupation corrodes Israel and its image, and will continue until Israel extricates itself from the Palestinians.” Jewish separation from Palestinians is a delusion. It is like whites separating from blacks in the U.S. Israel is 20 percent non-Jewish; and it rules territories containing 5 million Palestinians; and though the world has resolved to “extricate” the Jews from the Arabs for 70 years now, the communities are intertwined more than ever, as Israeli Jews flood the West Bank and build more and more Jewish-only colonies.

    If separation is a delusion, how were Jews able to carry out Nakba in 48? The real delusion is that Peace can be arrived via Diversity. Weiss has a good heart about Palestinians but he's being naive. Justifiably or not, Arabs are PISSED. If Jews were to go for one-state-solution and allow Arabs equal rights, it will be the end for Israel. Palestinians who outnumber Jews in West Bank will rise up and commit horrible acts of violence once Apartheid regimen is lifted. And if Arabs have equal rights in Israel, then it will mean Arabs should be allowed to immigrate to Israel as well. The Right of Return for Palestinian Diaspora will spell doom for Israel as a Jewish state.
    If you want lasting peace, Peace Now is somewhat correct. Its only problem is it doesn't go far enough. All Arabs in Israel should be pushed to West Bank and all Jews in West Bank should be repatriated to Israel. It may be politically impossible, but such is the ONLY lasting solution. It's like the only sensible solution for South Africa was separation. Let whites be HERE and let blacks be THERE. Instead, the rainbow nation turned into bloody nation. Palestinians have a right to be spitting mad at the Jews, and for that reason, any notion of long-lasting peace under Diversity is a delusion. Weiss' is being willfully naive and hopeful to stoke his ego as the Good Jew denouncing Bad Jews. There can be no 'good Jews' or 'bad Jews' in the current situation. It's between sensible Jews and delusional Jews, and Weiss is also delusional.

    Weiss mentions blacks in America and says it's delusional to call for separation between whites and blacks. Weiss may be right about that. It could well be that whites are stuck with blacks. But then, why is this the case? Because of Diversity created by Imperialism. The US could be black-free IF whites had not practiced the Atlantic Slave Trade under imperialism. (Granted, later British imperialism did some good things by banning the slave trade of the Spanish empire.)
    Anyway, the biggest problem of the US -- the ghastly blacks -- is the result of imperialism.
    Diversity leads to problems, down the road if not here-and-now. Whites understood this about Indians, which is why Indians were expelled as whites expanded territories. Whites knew it'd be problematic to integrate with red savages getting drunk, scalping skulls, and hurling tomahawks. Also, Indians had a legit claim to this land since their forefathers had hunted bison and gophers on it. So, for there to be peace, whites had to drive out the Indians and create a white nation. Even Emma Lazarus understood this, which is why she supported Manifest Destiny. She wanted more whites and Jews to come to America and turn red savages into wretched huddled refuse in Reservations. "Better you than me."

    But if whites got rid of white-red diversity, they increased white-black diversity? Why? Because if whites confronted reds as warrior savages, whites brought blacks as slaves in chains. So, whites figured they'd always have power over the Negroids. With blacks, it was white masters ruling over black slaves or servants. But whites didn't consider the future where blacks might be freed and then use their stronger muscles and bigger dongs to destroy white manhood and colonize white wombs. It goes to show Diversity ends in disaster one way or the other.

    Anyway, even if Weiss is correct that Jews in Israel and whites in the US must make do with Diversity since we can't turn back the clock, he(and others like him) are foolish because they want to INCREASE DIVERSITY.
    It's one thing to argue that some nations became diverse due to certain accidents or events in history, and therefore, people in such nations must try to make the best of it. Okay, fair enough.
    But why should any nation willfully INCREASE DIVERSITY when history shows time and time again that such conditions lead to more tensions, more divisions, more distrust, more corruption, more hostilities, more confusion, and etc?
    After all, look at the US and EU. It's not about 'racism' vs 'anti-racism'. It's about Paleo-racism vs Neo-racism. Conservatives are Paleo-racists who want white nations and white-majority nations to emphasize white identity, heritage, and power. Progressive Neo-racists, contrary to being for racial equality, are for the supremacism of Jews and blacks over other races and for whites to be attacked and blamed for everything. Look at the phenom of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization-of-White-Wombs being pushed by PC. It's not about racial equality. It means that white women should reject white males as pathetic dorky cucks and surrender their wombs to the superior dongs and seeds of Negroids. Why does BBC series on the Fall of Troy feature Zeus and Achilles as blacks? Why are Christmas commercials showing white women going with Negroids? It's not about racial equality but about how white women should go with black men as superior to white males. PC is just neo-racism with new configuration of superior races and inferior races. Most people are either Paleo-racists or Neo-racists. Only a few are Tru-racists or Race-ists. The thing about Paleo-Racists and Neo-Racists is they deny their own racial biases and accuse OTHERS of 'racism' whereas Tru-Racists or Race-ists admit that everyone is consciously or subconsciously race-ist since it's impossible not to see race and racial differences and their effects on society.

    Even Weissism is a form of Neo-Racism because even if Weissism were to be implemented 100% in Israel-West-Bank, the result will be Jewish domination. Why? DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are much smarter than People of Sand. Just consider. The US has tons of smart and capable Anglos and Germanics. But Jews beat them all. So, how are the Sandfolks supposed to compete with Jews? Even if Israel were totally meritocratic and treated everyone in colorblind manner, Jews will totally dominate. It's like blacks totally dominate sports cuz genetics in sports biologically discriminates against slower/weaker races. Israel would just go from Paleo-Racism that officially favors Jews over Palestinians to Neo-Racism where biology favors Jews over Palestinians. For Palestinians to live in a nation of Arab dominance, it can't have lots of smarter Jews. In a Weissian future Israel, the ONLY hope for Arabs would be the power of numbers and demography. Currently, Israel bans Muslim immigration, welcomes Jewish immigration, and pays special money to horny rabbinical students to have lots of babies. But under Weissism, there can't be special Jewish privileges on immigration. And special money for Jewish breeders would go against the spirit of equal treatment under law. I mean, if horny Jewish rabbinical students should be funded to breed, why not for horny Islamic students?

    In the end, Weissism is hardly different from Neo-conservatism. Weiss is a globalist-imperialist who ridicules national identities, national sovereignty, and national borders. He is for Europe being flooded by masses of Africans and Muslims, oblivious to the fact that the fate of Europeans will be like that of Palestinians who were flooded and destroyed by Jewish mass immigration.

    Where Weissism is different from Neo-conservatism and most forms of Liberal Zionism is that he calls for the destruction of ALL nations, Israel included. I must admit there's an admirable quality about such moral consistency, in contrast to Neocons and Liberal Zionists who denounce identity and nationalism among goyim(in the name of spreading 'liberal values') but demand that goyim serve and support Israel as a Jewish state.

    While moral consistency is better than moral hypocrisy, the core of Weissism is globalism, and that means no national rights, no national security, no national sovereignty for any people. Weiss seems to think that his values will lead to some Lennonite Imagined World, but it will have the opposite effect. It will turn all the world into the hellhole that is West Bank and Gaza.

    Utopianism is imperialism of the mind. It is over-ambitious and deluded. What is real and realistic are peoples, cultures, heritages, and national borders. We need more of that.

    Priss, I think you are naive about Weiss. I don’t think he really cares about Palestinians. Hell, he just put their plight on par with the “struggle” for tranny access to restrooms in North Carolina, for God’s sake.

    Weiss is posturing, as usual, and is full of crap. What Weiss really cares about is maintaining Jewish power. He differs from Zionists in where he wants the power based, and whom he wishes to occupy.

    Has Weiss ever expressed any concern for the mostly white and Christian soldiers in the American military who are also victims of AIPAC and Jewish power? How about the deceived and fleeced American masses? No, he doesn’t really give a damn about them. To view them as a cohesive group with interests of their own would be dangerous, as it would make them equal to Jews.

    When push comes to shove, I seriously doubt that Weiss would wish to see Israel harmed, or Israeli Jews defeated and forced to stay in Palestine for a final stand. He’s a tribal Jew to his core. In the end, it’s really about what’s good for the Jews for Weiss. I don’t consider Weiss a fellow American.

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    Of course Weiss doesn't care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don't care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don't care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely"care" about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.
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  166. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Judaism will have its holy land.in jerusalem.
     
    It will? When?

    You think the Zio-creeps speak for all, or even many, Jews? And why would violent, sadistic, deranged, fanatic, terrorist, atheists provide a "holy" land for Judaism? Especially since Jews were living in Palestine and shared a holy land there long before the Ziofreaks stuck their noses where they had no business?

    Wouldn't that be a job for Yahweh, or at least for people who actually believe in the dude?

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon wrote:

    As we all know our Jewish ‘anti’ Zionists (JVP, IJAN, Mondoweiss etc’) insist that Zionism should be regarded as an anomaly within the wide context of Jewish culture and religion. They are clearly spinning – Israel is the Jewish State, it kills and slaughter in the name of the Jews, its airplanes and tanks are decorated with Jewish symbols, its crimes are, unfortunately, consistent with some bloodthirsty Old Testament and Talmudic verses. As I mention before, some Orthodox Jews interpret those vile verses differently. However, Israel clearly transforms Deuteronomy into a murderous practical reality.

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    Atzmon makes many good points, but I still say that any clown can misappropriate and pervert anything.

    Look what's been done in the name of Christianity and the USA for instance. I say the Zio-crazies and Israel firsters are usurpers and frauds at a minimum.

    The uniformed thug oppressors in Palestine and their butt kissers are wrong whether they're Jews or not in any case.

    I wonder what Bro Nathaniel would say about this.(He'd probably agree with Atzmon...) ;)

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  167. @Anon
    Come on Jack . As a caring humanitarian who has spilt gallons of tears for PaLiestinians , do tell why you care not for these conflicts and occupation which all have death tolls 100x higher than Israel ?

    If Israel’s army is bad , how much worse is : Russia’s occupation of Chechnya , Chinas occupation of Tibet , Indonesia’s occupation of Papua , Turkeys occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan, Sudan’s occupation of Darfur , Nigeria’s occupation of Biafra, Moroccos occupation of Western Sahara . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven’t I seen you whine about them ,?

    Btw I never claimed victory only that the WN crowd admitted defeat and now resigns itself to cuck/cheerlead for Islam . Pathetic actually. Wake up White man lololzlzlz

    do tell why you care not for these conflicts and occupation which all have death tolls

    Do tell why you insist on repeating such an absurd and asinine charge?

    Do tell why you can do no better than make specious claims and silly equivalencies.

    Do tell why you answer none of my questions.

    Do tell why you apologize for Izzie crimes.

    Note: In the future, if you don’t want to be ignored, then attempt to make a reasonable statement and add something to the discussion. And quit whining.

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  168. Ace says:
    @Miliia18
    One Israeli state that includes the West Bank Allow the Palestinians to become citizens. What's more likely is a fake Palestinian authority, beatings, expulsions, land theft, military detention, and eventual full ethnic cleansing. A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950's.

    Most Jews are only concerned with Jewish suffering. No one else matters. If you don't believe me count the number of Hollywood movies that concern Palestinian suffering under Jewish occupation in the West Bank.

    ZERO

    . . . as any Southerner or Northener was toward blacks in the 1950′s.

    FIFY.

    Cracker?

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  169. @L.K
    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon wrote:

    As we all know our Jewish ‘anti’ Zionists (JVP, IJAN, Mondoweiss etc’) insist that Zionism should be regarded as an anomaly within the wide context of Jewish culture and religion. They are clearly spinning – Israel is the Jewish State, it kills and slaughter in the name of the Jews, its airplanes and tanks are decorated with Jewish symbols, its crimes are, unfortunately, consistent with some bloodthirsty Old Testament and Talmudic verses. As I mention before, some Orthodox Jews interpret those vile verses differently. However, Israel clearly transforms Deuteronomy into a murderous practical reality.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt2mtnLJO70

    Atzmon makes many good points, but I still say that any clown can misappropriate and pervert anything.

    Look what’s been done in the name of Christianity and the USA for instance. I say the Zio-crazies and Israel firsters are usurpers and frauds at a minimum.

    The uniformed thug oppressors in Palestine and their butt kissers are wrong whether they’re Jews or not in any case.

    I wonder what Bro Nathaniel would say about this.(He’d probably agree with Atzmon…) ;)

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  170. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @OilcanFloyd
    Priss, I think you are naive about Weiss. I don't think he really cares about Palestinians. Hell, he just put their plight on par with the "struggle" for tranny access to restrooms in North Carolina, for God's sake.

    Weiss is posturing, as usual, and is full of crap. What Weiss really cares about is maintaining Jewish power. He differs from Zionists in where he wants the power based, and whom he wishes to occupy.

    Has Weiss ever expressed any concern for the mostly white and Christian soldiers in the American military who are also victims of AIPAC and Jewish power? How about the deceived and fleeced American masses? No, he doesn't really give a damn about them. To view them as a cohesive group with interests of their own would be dangerous, as it would make them equal to Jews.

    When push comes to shove, I seriously doubt that Weiss would wish to see Israel harmed, or Israeli Jews defeated and forced to stay in Palestine for a final stand. He's a tribal Jew to his core. In the end, it's really about what's good for the Jews for Weiss. I don't consider Weiss a fellow American.

    Of course Weiss doesn’t care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don’t care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don’t care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely”care” about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.

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    "...you just hate Jews."
    Could you stop quetching, for Christ sake? Read the pornographic PNAC and murderous Oded Yinon plan to come to senses. The illegal wars of aggression in the Middle East have been promoted by neocons (a lot of Jews) & ziocons. The “chosen” have been robbing the US taxpayers, while bribing the US legislators and military, for the make-belief of Eretz Israel. The Lobby is the most vicious anti-democratic institution in the US/EU; the Lobby should have been registered under FARA long time ago already. The Lobby has been in arms against the freedom of speech (see BDS) and against controlled emigration (but a tight control over non-Jewish emigration to Jewish State is OK). It is vitally important for the US to remove all dual citizens (Israel-firsters) from important governmental positions.
    , @OilcanFloyd
    I don't hold being born Jewish against amyone, but I dislike Jewishness and Jewish power. I'll leave it for you to figure out how that works, Einstein.

    Though you would likely consider Weiss to be a self-hating Jew, here you come defending him, in a back-handed way, as he would likely do for you in a similar situation. Tribalists to the end.

    I freely admit that I don't care about the Palestinians, though I understand that they are the victims of Jews everywhere. If the U.S. weren't being subverted to support Israel, the situation would be as minor as the other conflicts you mention. However, that's far from the case, and you know it.

    Weiss has a platform, and is supported in bogus use of the Palestinians. It's all a fraud. My using the Palestinians for anything is your fabrication. I don't in any way consider Palestinians my allies, since Palestinian activists in the West generally side with people like Weiss against the interests of the natives. I'd like to see both Jews and Muslims bottled up in the ME to continue their dance of death together in peace. I don't care for either group.

    How's that for using using Palestinians as a tool? Is that really on par with Weiss' crocodile tears?
    , @Priss Factor
    I think he does care. He wouldn't have pursued this issue for so long if he didn't.

    But his solutions -- destruction of Israel along with the West -- are worse than the problem in the long run.

    Best solution is for Zionism to become a nationalism than imperialism and for Jews to accept that Poland and Hungary are right to want to preserve their national integrity rooted in blood and soil. People overlook the fact that Nazism's main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc.

    Israel is somewhat different from other non-European cases because Jews do have some kind of historical claim to the land. Granted, if every people decided to reclaim lost homelands, we'd see WWIII, WWIV, and etc.
    But if Jews were to limit their influence to Israel, even the Muslim World could learn to live with Israel as Jewish State. But if Zionism remains in 'neocon' imperialist mode, there will be more troubles ahead. It led to Iraq War, Libya disaster, hell in Syria, Russian involvement in Syria, and now more tensions about Iran.

    This is why America First is an essential agenda. As America is the global hegemon, there will be less globo-imperialism if US focuses on its own affairs than serving as (corrupt and bribed) policeman of the world. US as policeman would be more tolerable if it were a fair policeman. But US politicians and Deep State are whores of the ruling elites with their globo-Zionist agenda. And that ruins US reputation around the world as a fair enforcer of the peace and justice.
    , @ANON

    And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler’s rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he’d grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians,
     
    I'm confused: first you say Hitler's rage focused on Jews, then on Austrian empire.

    But since you validate Weiss's reference to Kafka:

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.
     
    making it OK for Jews to take action -- Weiss insists -- against the (perceived) oppressors, actions involving buttonholing the pharaoh, reprising a pattern as old as Joseph --

    As Jews were beaten and killed by marauding gangs with the blessing of the state — American Jews were not silent. Jews acted. Their leaders went to the White House . . ."
     
    --- then why is it not equally OK for Germans to have taken action -- non-violent action; actions that Breitbart and Lichtman call "semi-legal" actions under their own leadership to protect German people who were being oppressed?
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  171. @Miliia18
    One Israeli state that includes the West Bank Allow the Palestinians to become citizens. What's more likely is a fake Palestinian authority, beatings, expulsions, land theft, military detention, and eventual full ethnic cleansing. A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950's.

    Most Jews are only concerned with Jewish suffering. No one else matters. If you don't believe me count the number of Hollywood movies that concern Palestinian suffering under Jewish occupation in the West Bank.

    ZERO

    A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950′s.

    Thart sounds good, and I’ve heard such claims often, but American blacks were never threatened with expulsion, genocide, or war, in any section of the nation. Neither the U.S. military nor the state or national guards were turned loose on blacks. However bad life for blacks in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes, routine torture sanctioned by the state, blockafes, etc, as the Palestinians face at the hands of Israel, all of which is largely supported by American Jews.

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    However bad life for jews in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes from there arab neighbors in 5 wars that israel has had to face.
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  172. mcohen says:
    @Druid
    That's a McJoke!!!!

    All good . said what i needed to say

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  173. Ace says:
    @Logan
    Clearly the Israelis are showing great cultural sensitivity by applying the Arab Muslims' own rules for treating the conquered, reducing them to dhimmitude.

    Ha. Well said. Israel leads the way in demonstrating the correct way to avoid ethnic and racial inundation, i.e., national suicide. Only sappy non-Jewish Westerners worship foreigners and minorities and actively hand over their countries and their lives to them. What is infuriating about non-Israeli institutional Jewery is that they beaver away Barbara Lerner Specter-fashion to arrange for host nations what is anathema for them where the nation of Israel is concerned.

    I have no fondness for Israel. They sought to set up shop in a hostile area trumpeting nonsense about some kind of ancestral entitlement and took what they wanted in the time honored ways employed by practically every other nation on earth. They and their American supporters play the U.S. like a one-note ukulele and personal piggy bank to help them hang on to it. Inter alia.

    That said, it’s downright delicious to see them serve up a heaping, steaming helping of unadulterated dhimmitude for the enjoyment of their Muslim population, that which Muslims jammed down the throats of surviving infidels throughout 1400 years of conquest, rape, and slaughter. Arabs P&M about a postage stamp-sized nation in the M.E. while sitting on half a continent of land their ancestors stole. Cry me a river.

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    My comment was to a considerable extent meant ironically. It's amazing how often the standard litanies of the sins of the West fall apart when examined.

    For instance, let us take the horrific practice of racism by the British conquerors of India. To a rational person the Brits were simply following the ancient native custom of caste, just slipping themselves in as the top caste. How a people following caste customs could object with a straight face to the relatively mild race discrimination by the British is beyond me.

    Or the constantly repeated propaganda about the horrific atrocities by US troops at Sand Creek and Wounded Knee, where women and children were killed in quantity.

    Let us assume the very worst stories about these events are 100% true. In that case, the US troops were simply showing cultural sensitivity by applying native customs rather than imposing their own.

    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops. AFAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.

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  174. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    You whine a lot Jack. If Israel's army is bad , how much worse is : Russia's , Chinas , Indonesia's , Turkeys , Sudan's , Nigeria's , Moroccos . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven't I seen you whine about them ,?

    Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat and just turn into cucks/cheerleaders for Islam.

    “Really pathetic to see WN guys admit defeat…
    – You mean the exposure of Israeli’ perfidy in Syria? Or you want to remind the readers about Israeli brass’ open admission of their preference for ISIS over sovereign Syria?
    In the Middle East, the ongoing wars for Israel produced some 4 mln deaths, mostly civilians of ALL ages. And yet you are quetching about alleged insensitivity and even injustice towards the bloody supremacist Israel. Your parasitic Lobby has corrupted the US Congress and military: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/11/have-the-us-militry-gone-zionist.html
    Why don’t you deal with your cousins, the Arabs, on your own, without spilling American/European blood and looting the US treasury?

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  175. Jaime says:
    @Anon
    So when are you signing up for Hamas , sissy ? You threatened to once already lol. You kill me acting tough lolol.

    You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I understood perfectly well what LK meant.

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  176. Ace says:
    @utu
    My comment was alluding to attitudes among Americans to killings by the the law enforcement. The "self-defence" and "fear for life" is almost always successfully invoked. Over 1000 are killed per year. Only 0.3% of cops are convicted of some crime. 99.7% are never charged or are acquitted by the jury of their peers who believes that killing was justified because of "self-defence" and "fear for life."

    One example:

    'Please don't kill me': Cop is cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father, 26, as he crawled along a hotel corridor in shocking footage which his family insists shows a 'cold-blooded execution'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5157957/Ex-Arizona-police-officer-acquitted-fatal-hotel-shooting.html#ixzz52D6z9tuq

    An artfully chosen example. Representative, of course, of the psychopathic American police officer.

    Here’s another example of that psychopathy:

    http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/6495337-Video-Ore-trooper-ambushed-at-traffic-stop-suspect-killed/

    With luck the video’s still there. It’s quite interesting. And that @#$&+*% cop will get away with it!

    This post does have the video:

    http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/10/05/analysis-of-the-oregon-state-patrol-shooting/

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    I got more examples for you.

    ‘It should never have happened’: Bill de Blasio says protocol was not followed when NYPD officer shot dead schizophrenic black woman, despite having Taser

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3852676/NYPD-failed-Sergeant-Hugh-Barry-shot-dead-Deboarh-Danner-mentally-ill-woman-gun-control-advocate-Commissioner-James-O-Neill-says.html#ixzz4NavBHNvA

    ‘I’m the boss:’ Cop who sparked protests in Milwaukee after he fatally shot black man ‘raped fellow male drinker the next night after watching rioting on TV in a bar while bragging he could do what he wanted’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

    Police shoot and kill [...] during a well-being check

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3867180/Police-shoot-kill-suicidal-five-month-pregnant-mother-three-23-handgun-check-Washington-Indian-reservation.html

    Unarmed grandfather, 73, with dementia is shot ‘NINE TIMES’ and killed by California cops as he wanders around his block at 12.30am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4027656/Unarmed-man-73-shot-killed-police-California.html#ixzz4SlN1Uetr

    Philadelphia deliveryman wrongly shot 14 times by police gets a $4.4million settlement

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4096054/Philadelphia-man-wrongly-shot-face-police-wins-4-4million-settlement-largest-payout-city-s-history.html#ixzz4V2Bc7HAi

    New Evidence: Fla. Cop Knew Charles Kinsey Had No Gun When He Shot Him

    http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/new-evidence-fla-cop-knew-charles-kinsey-had-no-gun-when-he-shot-him/

    Officer is CLEARED of any wrongdoing after shooting a veteran when he ‘mistook his wallet for a weapon’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4303558/Footage-emerges-cop-shooting-man-holding-wallet.html#ixzz4b1rAs7Ql

    Former cop is charged with attempted manslaughter after shooting an unarmed teenager as he lay face-down on the ground during an arrest

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276438/Former-officer-charged-attempted-manslaughter.html#ixzz4aEd1D7Bf

    Cop is caught ‘LYING’ about how he killed black musician whose car broke down: Prosecutors claim victim was already dead when officer called 911 for backup as new recording of his ‘call for help’ is released

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4130446/Cop-caught-LYING-killed-Corey-Jones.html#ixzz4WADowjTb

    Graphic footage shows FIVE cops shooting dead a blind man in convenience store because he was ‘agitated’ and ‘holding a knife’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4132928/Footage-reveals-five-police-shooting-dead-blind-man.html#ixzz4WAD5kdh7

    ‘I never saw a kid, bro’: Police release graphic video boy, six, being shot dead by cops ‘in self defense’ after it is allowed into evidence for murder trial of two officers

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812560/Court-releases-video-police-shooting-killed-La-boy.html#ixzz4LyWER9pt

    ‘F*** this guy, I’m gonna hit him’: Dashcam footage shows police trying to run over a mentally ill homeless man before fatally shooting him 14 times

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3817158/Dashcam-footage-shows-police-trying-run-mentally-ill-homeless-man-fatally-shooting-14-times.html#ixzz4LyVzdkRs

    Dashcam video shows the moment unarmed pastor was shot dead by police after they tasered him – despite having his hands in the air

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3797132/Dashcam-video-shows-moment-unarmed-pastor-shot-dead-police-tasered-despite-hands-air.html#ixzz4KkNTIHzV

    A North Carolina state trooper shot dead a deaf and mute man who was apparently trying to communicate using sign language after he was pulled over for a speeding violation.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753378/North-Carolina-state-trooper-shoots-dead-deaf-mute-man.html

    Yes, some policemen are psychopaths. Lots of them are not well trained and deconfliction is not emphasized in training. And majority of them are not too smart. But the biggest problem is the impunity. They get away with what they do. This leads to awful corruption and moral derangement. Killing with impunity is an ultimate power and we know that ultimate power corrupts absolutely. To large extent this is so because of morally desensitized and misguided cucks like you. Americans do not find killings as abhorrent as people in other cultures so they do not disapprove of killings by police that in most countries would be unthinkable.

    “The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.” - D.H. Lawrence
     
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  177. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Of course Weiss doesn't care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don't care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don't care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely"care" about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.

    “…you just hate Jews.”
    Could you stop quetching, for Christ sake? Read the pornographic PNAC and murderous Oded Yinon plan to come to senses. The illegal wars of aggression in the Middle East have been promoted by neocons (a lot of Jews) & ziocons. The “chosen” have been robbing the US taxpayers, while bribing the US legislators and military, for the make-belief of Eretz Israel. The Lobby is the most vicious anti-democratic institution in the US/EU; the Lobby should have been registered under FARA long time ago already. The Lobby has been in arms against the freedom of speech (see BDS) and against controlled emigration (but a tight control over non-Jewish emigration to Jewish State is OK). It is vitally important for the US to remove all dual citizens (Israel-firsters) from important governmental positions.

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    I have more respect for an approach such as yours . At least You aren't pretending to care about PaLiestinians .
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  178. hope says:
    @Brabantian
    Chronological maps, viciously expanding Israel, shrinking Palestine
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfcc6aa0ed0e0e595ada84649825144be94389a14eea92cb066603c3e3b83444.png

    actually UNR 181 remains the only recognized borders – everything else is a temp. armistice lime

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  179. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    "...you just hate Jews."
    Could you stop quetching, for Christ sake? Read the pornographic PNAC and murderous Oded Yinon plan to come to senses. The illegal wars of aggression in the Middle East have been promoted by neocons (a lot of Jews) & ziocons. The “chosen” have been robbing the US taxpayers, while bribing the US legislators and military, for the make-belief of Eretz Israel. The Lobby is the most vicious anti-democratic institution in the US/EU; the Lobby should have been registered under FARA long time ago already. The Lobby has been in arms against the freedom of speech (see BDS) and against controlled emigration (but a tight control over non-Jewish emigration to Jewish State is OK). It is vitally important for the US to remove all dual citizens (Israel-firsters) from important governmental positions.

    I have more respect for an approach such as yours . At least You aren’t pretending to care about PaLiestinians .

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    Well, there is no major difference between the Nazi and neo-Nazi thugs and the "most moral" IDF. The Lobby (including Friends of Israel in the UK) is a voracious parasite on a body of western civilization. You quetching re Palestinians (the native descendants of the ancient Jews -- as compared to the motley and ethnically unconvincing crowd of modern Israelis) is akin to quetching by a thug about too much light exposing his thievery and premeditated murder.

    “The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years… Then it fell apart…"

    “How Israel weaponizes archeology:” https://israelpalestinenews.org/weaponizing-archeology/
    “During the early years of Israel’s existence, bulldozers removed Ottoman and Mameluke remains, Arab and Crusader artifacts, Byzantine and Roman and Greek and Persian remnants—in order to find “pay dirt” biblical Hebrew artifacts. Zionist forces wiped out 400-600 Palestinian villages in the 1940s. Hundreds of historical monuments and places of worship (primarily mosques) were also targeted for demolition after the 1948 war. Cartographers were sent out to make a new map, renaming cities, villages, rivers, etc. with Israeli/Hebrew names to erase all vestiges of Palestinian presence. According to the Israel Government Yearbook, 5719, almost 60,000 homes and 10,000 businesses were appropriated during Israel’s early years…. many of Gaza’s most valuable artifacts have turned up in Israeli museums. The appropriation of archeological sites and their artifacts is, by definition, illegal, but Israel has a great deal of experience in flouting international law and getting away with it."

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  180. @Presocratic

    [Weiss] fails to admit that violation of nationalism has been the true curse of the 20th century. . . [B]ecause so many groups [in the Hapsburg Empire] felt so disenfranchised, occupied, and denied national sovereignty, they grew ever more bitter and came to scapegoat Jews as the source of all problems.

     

    Agree in part with what you say above, but as Peter Drucker persuasively describes in his book, "The New Realities," the Hapsburg Empire exerted a relatively light yoke on the non-Austrian and non-Hungarian nationalities that comprised it. And the most fervent demands for autonomy and eventually independence came not from the lower classes, but instead from the educated middle classes who most benefitted from the Empire's supernational economic program. Drucker writes that the history of the Hapsburg Empire and others shows that "[a]s people become 'westernized,' more affluent, more mobile, more educated, they increasingly become more nationalist."

    After the Hungarians gained political, linguistic and cultural autonomy in 1867, other nationalities -- the Czechs first, then the Italians, the Croats, the Slovenes, the Poles -- began demanding similar treatment. Drucker writes that the enlightened liberal elites in the Empire responded to these pressures in two ways. First, they pursued a policy of "economic development as a supernational bond of unity." And second, they made many concessions to the cultural and political autonomy of the various nationalities. According to Drucker, "Half the universities in the Austrian Empire were non-German: [i.e.,] Hungarian, Czech, Slovenian, Croatian, Polish and Ukranian," the "Austrian parliament accepted any number of languages," and soldiers in the army were free to use their own national languages, other than a few German command words that they were required to learn and use.

    The economic policy was a great success in raising standards of living. Drucker writes that the Czech heartland of Bohemia experienced phenomenal industrial growth after 1870, and by 1914 had equaled Germany and surpassed France in standard of living. Slovenia and Croatia also saw rapid economic growth in that period, as did the area around Cracow, Poland.

    But instead of appeasing the nationalities, affluence and relative political and cultural autonomy only increased the demands for more autonomy and eventually for total independence. Drucker writes that those demands did not originate with the peasants or the proletariat, but instead with the bourgeoisie, "and especially of the educated middle class of merchants, plant managers, professionals," who were the first beneficiaries of economic growth.

    Drucker writes that what happened in British India followed the same pattern. The Brits decided to promote economic development so as to offer Indians tangible benefits of British rule, by constructing railways and ports, creating rural cooperatives and engineering schools, encouraging the export of Indian crops, and founding the Indian Congress that brought together British and educated Indians to implement these policies. The economic and social results were substantial, but politically these efforts spawned the Indian independence movement that in 1947 ousted the British. Almost all leaders of the Independence movement served in the Indian Congress.

    Agree in part with what you say above, but as Peter Drucker persuasively describes in his book, “The New Realities,” the Hapsburg Empire exerted a relatively light yoke on the non-Austrian and non-Hungarian nationalities that comprised it.

    That may well be true, but it is when the ‘oppression’ is lightest that the opposition is most confident.
    Historians say the British were very tolerant of the American Colonies, but the revolutionaries made a mountain out of a molehill. And look at BLM. Blacks were less rebellious when the oppression was real but are now flipping out over the most trivial thing because they feel confident in badmouthing ‘honkey’.

    The Austrians were tolerant as imperialists, but that just added more fuel to the radicals and revolutionaries. Same thing with the Russian Tsar. He was very tolerant compared to Stalin, but he was overthrown whereas the people all bowed down to Stalin.

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  181. mcohen says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    A large percentage of American Jews are as bigoted toward Palestinians as any southern cracker was toward blacks in the 1950′s.
     
    Thart sounds good, and I've heard such claims often, but American blacks were never threatened with expulsion, genocide, or war, in any section of the nation. Neither the U.S. military nor the state or national guards were turned loose on blacks. However bad life for blacks in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes, routine torture sanctioned by the state, blockafes, etc, as the Palestinians face at the hands of Israel, all of which is largely supported by American Jews.

    However bad life for jews in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes from there arab neighbors in 5 wars that israel has had to face.

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    However bad life for jews in America was, they never faced bombings from aircraft or artillery, tanks, napalm, missile strikes from there arab neighbors in 5 wars that israel has had to face.
     
    What? You've taken the conversation off the rails here, but I'll go there with you, in hopes of righting the train.
    1. Israel is the aggressor/invader.
    2. Israel has never been at a disadvantage in those "wars."
    3. Israel has suffered very little in those "wars," (thanks to massive support from the West) and certainly has not had to put up with napalming, or much in the way of aerial, tank, artillery and missile attack, or land invasion.
    4. The Palestinians have no military, and largely represent fish in a barrel for the IDF. The so-called wars against the Palestinians are more like large-scale SWAT actions against civilians, that for some sadistic reason includes missile strikes, attack from attack helicopters and aircraft, naval bombardment and blockade, white phosphorus, attack with real missiles capable of doing real damage, modern tanks and artillery, etc... Yet you want to play the poor Israel victim card.

    Should we go on? If Israel does come up against a similarly armed foe that is the aggressor without being a previous victim of Israel, and Israel doesn't have superpower backing, please post about it.
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  182. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I question the sincerity of liberal jews like Phil Weiss, but that aside, it is true that every crime committed by jews against the Palestinians is sanctioned by the American jewish community as a whole. And how long will this last for? As long as American jews control our foreign policy and therefore our Empire’s strides across the mideast. But take heart, Empire is now losing its stride – this article here breaks down Empire’s current geopolitical status in the world:
    Empire of Gunpowder and Glass: https://platosguns.com/2017/12/24/empire-of-gunpowder-and-glass/

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    Thanks Nancy.

    The story you've linked to about the young Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi driving everyone in israel nuts has indeed gone viral. Despite myself, I started to read the Mondoweiss article you linked on this subject but couldn't get past the point where liberal jew-supremist Phil Weiss started singing the praises of Jewish Voices for Peace, whom I consider to be Controlled Opposition agents and the worst thing that has ever happened to the US Palestine solidarity movement. Yes, in my mind, Mondoweiss is 'manicured' enemy territory. And JVP is a Sabanist implant whose agenda is to silence gentile pro Palestinians in America whenever their voices err away from the Jewish boundary of 'acceptable' speech, meaning: no one is permitted to question jewish revisionism of history, or critique judaism itself and its nefarious hand in so very many wars and deaths throughout history. Any criticism that questions the established jewish narrative is deemed antisemitic in JVP's eyes and they organize smear campaigns against 'rebel critics' in exactly the same way Aipac does in DC and elsewhere in the world.

    You must understand that American jews are always, always playing 'good cop/bad cop' with the goyim – but really, they all believe in their superiority and chosenness, even atheist jews believe in their chosenness. And this is why I never buy the fake/self-serving sympathy of jews towards Palestinians. I have zero trust in ANY so-called 'friendly' jews working the Palestine beat – especially ones who actually live in israel. If they really believed in justice for Palestinians, they'd pack up and leave the despicable, terrorist jewish colony and give back what rightfully belongs to Palestinians, which is the WHOLE of Historic Palestine, not just some of it. Partial colonization is still colonization; partial occupation is still occupation – and where the heck is the 'justice' in that?

    Some of JVP funding (and mondoweiss too) is non-transparent, but just take a look here at some of their transparent funders: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/uncovering-the-jvp-funding-network/

    The Rockefellers are the major donors of JVP and the Rothschilds own 37% of the Rockfellers dynasty: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9300205/Rothschild-and-Rockefeller-their-family-fortunes.html

    Need I say more?

    No, dear Nancy, neither Phil Weiss nor JVP are able to do ANYTHING for Palestine except act as gatekeepers and earn a good living off the backs of Palestinian suffering. I can't tell you the depth of loathing I feel for such covert war profiteers.

    JVP talks the talk but does not walk the walk. Certainly, no Palestinian is waiting on American liberal jews to physically liberate them from jewish occupation. Only an utter fool would hand over their life and future to a two-faced monster like JVP and its string of associates and fake activists.
     
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  183. Alfred says:

    The Jews were given a choice between Patagonia, Uganda and Palestine – by bought-up British politicians. They made a bad choice and it seems that a British Jewish Billionaire is planning on a wholesale move to Patagonia.

    “What is Israël’s project in Argentina?”

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article198968.html

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  184. utu says:
    @Ace
    An artfully chosen example. Representative, of course, of the psychopathic American police officer.

    Here's another example of that psychopathy:

    http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/6495337-Video-Ore-trooper-ambushed-at-traffic-stop-suspect-killed/

    With luck the video's still there. It's quite interesting. And that @#$&+*% cop will get away with it!

    This post does have the video:

    http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/10/05/analysis-of-the-oregon-state-patrol-shooting/

    I got more examples for you.

    ‘It should never have happened’: Bill de Blasio says protocol was not followed when NYPD officer shot dead schizophrenic black woman, despite having Taser

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3852676/NYPD-failed-Sergeant-Hugh-Barry-shot-dead-Deboarh-Danner-mentally-ill-woman-gun-control-advocate-Commissioner-James-O-Neill-says.html#ixzz4NavBHNvA

    ‘I’m the boss:’ Cop who sparked protests in Milwaukee after he fatally shot black man ‘raped fellow male drinker the next night after watching rioting on TV in a bar while bragging he could do what he wanted’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

    Police shoot and kill [...] during a well-being check

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3867180/Police-shoot-kill-suicidal-five-month-pregnant-mother-three-23-handgun-check-Washington-Indian-reservation.html

    Unarmed grandfather, 73, with dementia is shot ‘NINE TIMES’ and killed by California cops as he wanders around his block at 12.30am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4027656/Unarmed-man-73-shot-killed-police-California.html#ixzz4SlN1Uetr

    Philadelphia deliveryman wrongly shot 14 times by police gets a $4.4million settlement

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4096054/Philadelphia-man-wrongly-shot-face-police-wins-4-4million-settlement-largest-payout-city-s-history.html#ixzz4V2Bc7HAi

    New Evidence: Fla. Cop Knew Charles Kinsey Had No Gun When He Shot Him

    http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/new-evidence-fla-cop-knew-charles-kinsey-had-no-gun-when-he-shot-him/

    Officer is CLEARED of any wrongdoing after shooting a veteran when he ‘mistook his wallet for a weapon’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4303558/Footage-emerges-cop-shooting-man-holding-wallet.html#ixzz4b1rAs7Ql

    Former cop is charged with attempted manslaughter after shooting an unarmed teenager as he lay face-down on the ground during an arrest

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276438/Former-officer-charged-attempted-manslaughter.html#ixzz4aEd1D7Bf

    Cop is caught ‘LYING’ about how he killed black musician whose car broke down: Prosecutors claim victim was already dead when officer called 911 for backup as new recording of his ‘call for help’ is released

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4130446/Cop-caught-LYING-killed-Corey-Jones.html#ixzz4WADowjTb

    Graphic footage shows FIVE cops shooting dead a blind man in convenience store because he was ‘agitated’ and ‘holding a knife’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4132928/Footage-reveals-five-police-shooting-dead-blind-man.html#ixzz4WAD5kdh7

    ‘I never saw a kid, bro’: Police release graphic video boy, six, being shot dead by cops ‘in self defense’ after it is allowed into evidence for murder trial of two officers

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812560/Court-releases-video-police-shooting-killed-La-boy.html#ixzz4LyWER9pt

    ‘F*** this guy, I’m gonna hit him’: Dashcam footage shows police trying to run over a mentally ill homeless man before fatally shooting him 14 times

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3817158/Dashcam-footage-shows-police-trying-run-mentally-ill-homeless-man-fatally-shooting-14-times.html#ixzz4LyVzdkRs

    Dashcam video shows the moment unarmed pastor was shot dead by police after they tasered him – despite having his hands in the air

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3797132/Dashcam-video-shows-moment-unarmed-pastor-shot-dead-police-tasered-despite-hands-air.html#ixzz4KkNTIHzV

    A North Carolina state trooper shot dead a deaf and mute man who was apparently trying to communicate using sign language after he was pulled over for a speeding violation.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753378/North-Carolina-state-trooper-shoots-dead-deaf-mute-man.html

    Yes, some policemen are psychopaths. Lots of them are not well trained and deconfliction is not emphasized in training. And majority of them are not too smart. But the biggest problem is the impunity. They get away with what they do. This leads to awful corruption and moral derangement. Killing with impunity is an ultimate power and we know that ultimate power corrupts absolutely. To large extent this is so because of morally desensitized and misguided cucks like you. Americans do not find killings as abhorrent as people in other cultures so they do not disapprove of killings by police that in most countries would be unthinkable.

    “The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.” – D.H. Lawrence

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  185. utu says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Point taken. Sickening isn't it? Considering some cases in Australia where the mentally ill (white like the victim in the case you link) have been shot by young armed police I think the main conclusion to draw is that young police need to be much much better trained, with every shooting regarded as prima facie a failure especially if fatal.

    Yes, it is sickening. This is really a cultural difference issue. Most Americans will somehow justify it w/o getting sick. Training like deconfliction, etc. would help but it is unlikely to occur. Actually we may expect that police forces in other countries will become more like American police. American culture spreads like cancer. In good old times in Europe the police rules of engagement were to (1) make a warning shot and (2) shoot to disable but not to kill (like legs) and (3) never to shoot at suspect that runs away. In the Eastern Europe after communism collapse police forces were trained by American outfits and these rules were abandoned and now the policy of shoot to kill was adopted, which means shoot at torso as many bullets as you can.

    Clearly American police would benefit from a basic training:

    Arkansas cop sues Glock for $75,000 after shooting himself in the foot by accident

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3760281/Arkansas-cop-sues-Glock-75-000-shooting-foot-accident-loaded.html

    Florida mother, 73, is accidentally shot and killed by a cop in front of 34 people during role play exercise after officer playing a ‘bad guy’ loaded live rounds into the gun instead of blanks

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3732622/Police-Woman-killed-Florida-officer-academy-exercise.html

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  186. Logan says:
    @Ace
    Ha. Well said. Israel leads the way in demonstrating the correct way to avoid ethnic and racial inundation, i.e., national suicide. Only sappy non-Jewish Westerners worship foreigners and minorities and actively hand over their countries and their lives to them. What is infuriating about non-Israeli institutional Jewery is that they beaver away Barbara Lerner Specter-fashion to arrange for host nations what is anathema for them where the nation of Israel is concerned.

    I have no fondness for Israel. They sought to set up shop in a hostile area trumpeting nonsense about some kind of ancestral entitlement and took what they wanted in the time honored ways employed by practically every other nation on earth. They and their American supporters play the U.S. like a one-note ukulele and personal piggy bank to help them hang on to it. Inter alia.

    That said, it's downright delicious to see them serve up a heaping, steaming helping of unadulterated dhimmitude for the enjoyment of their Muslim population, that which Muslims jammed down the throats of surviving infidels throughout 1400 years of conquest, rape, and slaughter. Arabs P&M about a postage stamp-sized nation in the M.E. while sitting on half a continent of land their ancestors stole. Cry me a river.

    My comment was to a considerable extent meant ironically. It’s amazing how often the standard litanies of the sins of the West fall apart when examined.

    For instance, let us take the horrific practice of racism by the British conquerors of India. To a rational person the Brits were simply following the ancient native custom of caste, just slipping themselves in as the top caste. How a people following caste customs could object with a straight face to the relatively mild race discrimination by the British is beyond me.

    Or the constantly repeated propaganda about the horrific atrocities by US troops at Sand Creek and Wounded Knee, where women and children were killed in quantity.

    Let us assume the very worst stories about these events are 100% true. In that case, the US troops were simply showing cultural sensitivity by applying native customs rather than imposing their own.

    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops. AFAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.

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    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops.
     
    Well the story is that "we" are better, no?

    So why not have the balls to admit that Western "civilization" is a farce and bloody joke?

    Are you saying that these things are just fine, or what?


    FAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.
     
    You cannot prove that. Do you think it's likely that anyone would've recorded it in any case? Anyway, setting aside the issue of Indians, but addressing the issue of torture, what have you to say about American treatment of Filipino freedom fighters who were betrayed by the USA and were subsequently subjected to torture including waterboarding? What have you to say about the sicko antics in Abu Ghraib? How about the treatment of chattel slaves in the US? Does that not count as torture in many cases? how about the use of napalm and WP against civilians?

    Bottom line, the US and Israel have been every bit as savage as anyone else, and whether anyone else engaged in such does not relive "us" of our guilt, but keep trying.

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  187. @Anon
    Of course Weiss doesn't care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don't care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don't care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely"care" about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.

    I don’t hold being born Jewish against amyone, but I dislike Jewishness and Jewish power. I’ll leave it for you to figure out how that works, Einstein.

    Though you would likely consider Weiss to be a self-hating Jew, here you come defending him, in a back-handed way, as he would likely do for you in a similar situation. Tribalists to the end.

    I freely admit that I don’t care about the Palestinians, though I understand that they are the victims of Jews everywhere. If the U.S. weren’t being subverted to support Israel, the situation would be as minor as the other conflicts you mention. However, that’s far from the case, and you know it.

    Weiss has a platform, and is supported in bogus use of the Palestinians. It’s all a fraud. My using the Palestinians for anything is your fabrication. I don’t in any way consider Palestinians my allies, since Palestinian activists in the West generally side with people like Weiss against the interests of the natives. I’d like to see both Jews and Muslims bottled up in the ME to continue their dance of death together in peace. I don’t care for either group.

    How’s that for using using Palestinians as a tool? Is that really on par with Weiss’ crocodile tears?

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  188. @Wizard of Oz
    Point taken. Sickening isn't it? Considering some cases in Australia where the mentally ill (white like the victim in the case you link) have been shot by young armed police I think the main conclusion to draw is that young police need to be much much better trained, with every shooting regarded as prima facie a failure especially if fatal.

    Training police is obviously not the answer, if it is done in response to a homicide or assault by the police officer. The proper response to such an act by a cop is to fire him, and ask that he be prosecuted in the same way any other person would be prosecuted for a homicide or armed assault.

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    That too. But do you think that is going to do much of the education and deterrence needed before people are wrongly shot?
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  189. @Mark Green
    Priss's comments are always interesting, always provocative, and often brilliant.

    Weiss deserves credit for this article but he does end up sounding like a well-meaning, Diaspora Israeli. As Priss correctly notes, Weiss's solutions to the conundrum in Israel/Palestine are ultimately doomed, especially when one considers the persistent and extraordinary levels of Jewish ethnocentrism, Jewish accomplishment and Jewish ambition.

    Jews, I suppose, deserve a nation of their own, if only because they are constantly at war (competing intensely) with their gentile neighbors. Jews act as a separate nation wherever they dwell. Ironically, Jews constantly lecture the world about 'racism'. This is a sad, destructive and ridiculous fraud.

    As for the end of ethno-nationalism, this will never occur in countries that have not been contaminated by Jewish intellectuals (subversives) and Jewish radicals. Thus, the continuity of Chinese, Japanese and Korean societies are certain since Caucasian Jews cannot go into those countries and pose as 'equal citizens'. Ethno-nationalism will endure in cohesive, homogeneous Asian societies (and certainly in tribal Israel) as well as all cultures/societies where Jews are absent. This is human nature speaking.

    Indeed, the case can be made that the modern 'racist' boogeyman concept is largely a Jewish invention. But it may soon die out due to its inherent flaws, contradictions and failures. Only the top-heavy SCOTUS stands in the way of the eventual return of freedom (of association) in America.

    In all due respect to Mr. Weiss, he should do two things if he is to remain credible to those of us in the alt-right community. First, he should stop referring to the 'Holocaust' as the if it is truly the most significant tragedy and defining event in modern history. This is sheer moral fakery.

    The Jewish experience during WWII has been excessively elevated and dramatized for political purposes. As bad as the treatment that some Jews received towards the the end of that gargantuan effort at international, militarized mass murder (this is what wars are) the suffering by humanity during WWII alone probably surpasses the suffering of all Jews in all of human history. For instance, in the 20th century alone, some 240,000,000 human beings perished in wars. Yet the Holocaust narrative wants us only remember Jewish victims. This is Jewish supremacism.

    Indeed, the official 'Holocaust' narrative as presented is a manipulative attempt by organized Jewry to elevate and inject the concept 1) of pure Jewish innocence and 2) unique Jewish suffering into the bloodiest episodes (WWI and WWII) in human history. It deserves a real downgrading. This will not be easy however. Oversized Jewish political power relies heavily on 'The Holocaust'. But an honest reading of history is essential is we are to regain control of our own civilization.

    Tragically, 'The Holocaust' is a modern, Jewish attempt to trivialize non-Jewish suffering and victimhood while simultaneously erasing Jewish culpability for major meltdowns where Jews played a heavy role, including the 'Russian (Jewish) Revolution'.

    The ubiquitous, kosher spin on modern 'history' is also an expression of Jewish supremacism. Their uncompromising mindset has invaded every crevice of Official History in modern America.
    Even Weiss falls into this trap.

    Indeed, the diabolical role that some Jews played in various wars, conflicts, embargos, financial shenanigans and revolutions over the past century makes them, in many respects, fair game. For all their talents, Jews have been an intermittent plague on Western civilization since time immemorial.
    The ascendency of the war-happy neoconservatives is yet another example of this phenomena. Weiss should acknowledge this.

    Lastly, if all Jews are entitled to an automatic 'right to return' to Israel, efforts should be made to encourage all Jews to go live in Israel. Their hyper-ethnocentrism makes them less-than-ideal 'fellow citizens'. And we should insist that Israel finally define its borders. No actual borders gives Israel license to steal more land.

    In the meantime, no Jew should be allowed to hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Their dual loyalties have already caused needless wars and immense suffering in Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Iran. American lives, too, have been lost. Zionism is a political cancer in Washington and beyond. It is part of a criminal enterprise that must be resisted. Millions have perished and millions of more lives are at stake.

    Priss’ (note proper punctuation) comments are usually articles that he would post on his own site if he could get anyone to read them there. The trouble with such comments in a comment section is that it uses column space that must be scrolled past if the reader isn’t interested in reading such a long entry.

    A long response isn’t always out of order, as long as it’s on topic. An article length response, on the other hand, isn’t necessary and can be a little off-putting to participants who aren’t interested in reading it.

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  190. @Wally
    Certainly, and Merry Christmas.

    Get involved, let's bring the Big Lie monstrosity down. It's just not that difficult.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5102/?lang=en
    'Matter of Censorship should be a worry to us all'
    By French Singer Alison Chabloz

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Not much point in debating the “5M others” part, as Jewish organizations themselves acknowledge it’s a fabrication:

    https://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

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  191. angustry says:
    @MEexpert

    That blonde , blue eyed , Stark white PaLiestimian in the photo is such an exotic brown !!!!!!
    Assad , his wife and Suha Arafat are sooooooooo exotic and brown also !!!
     
    If the white supremacist Aryan Nation ever learn their world history and find out that the Aryan ancestors that they are so proud of came from Asia they probably will commit suicide. Even today, if you go the mountains of Northwest Pakistan you will find blonde haired/blue eyed families all over.

    The late Shah of Iran was descendant of these Aryans and one of his many titles was "Aryamehr," i.e. the Light of the Aryans.

    Aryans originated in the Asian/Mongolian steppes …. migrated to India & Iran then off to Europe … which is why Hitler was so interested in India ……. EVOLVING UP all the way

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  192. Angusry says:

    WHY does America support the ORIGINAL nazis and War God worshippers?
    Dump the “WWII guilt” ……. Jews are conducting TWO genocides RIGHT NOW
    Jews instigated the muslum invasion of Christian Europe
    and we are witnessing the SECOND, slow motion, Israeli holocaust of the People of Palestine..
    The Canaanites/Amorites/Philistines/Midianites/PALESTINIANS were in PALESTINE long before ABRAHAM passed through from Babylon/Ur ……Israel’s “claim” to Palestine is based entirely on War Crimes and GENOCIDE.

    The Jews BRAG about and SELF DOCUMENT THEIR “holocausting” others and then “PLACE A YOKE” on Gentiles for SUPPOSEDLY doing the exact same thing to them.
    Everything they claim the nazis did is an EXACT COPY of their own self-recorded acts/history..
    Deuteronomy 7:16, 20:16 “And thou shalt consume all the peoples which the Lord thy God shall deliver unto thee; thine eye shall not pity them…thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth.”

    [MORE]

    KILL THE SICK and CRIPPLED
    Numbers c.5 v.2-4
    KILL HOMOSEXUALS & UNDESIRABLES
    Leviticus c.20 v.13 well, really the whole chapter
    KILL ALL DISSIDENTS:
    Exodus c.32 v.27
    Numbers c.11 v.1-2
    Numbers c.16 all
    Numbers c.21 v.5-6
    Numbers v.26 v.10
    KILL anyone who engages in “DIVERSITY” or “INTEGRATION”
    Numbers v25 v.4-8
    Deuteronomy c.14 v.2
    DEHUMANIZE and then EXTERMINATE ALL NON-MEMBERS:
    SEXUALLY ENSLAVE any females “who have not KNOWN a man”
    a very brief selection, many more in THEIR book.
    Numbers c.21 v.03 Canaanites
    Numbers c.21 v.24 Amorites
    Numbers c.21 v.33-35 Bashan
    Numbers c.31 all Midianites
    Numbers c.32 v. more Amorites
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.34 People of Heshbon
    Deuteronomy c.3 v.6 really the whole chapter. threescore cities
    Joshua c.12 A list of victims of Israeli GENOCIDE
    OCCUPY YOUR VICTIM’S DWELLINGS/LAND
    Numbers c.21 v.25
    Numbers c.32 v.39
    Numbers c.33 v.53
    (just to name a FEW)
    GENOCIDE CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
    Numbers c.33 v.31-34
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.12 v.28-30
    Deuteronomy c.20 v.11-16
    TERRORISM CODIFIED IN THEIR RELIGION
    Deuteronomy c.2 v.2
    Deuteronomy c.7 v.1
    Jews SELF-anointed “The CHOSEN People of GOD”
    Nazis SELF-anointed “The CHOSEN People of GENETICS”.
    TODAY Israel states that it is creating “A PURE Jewish State”
    YESTERDAY the Nazis were creating “A PURE German State”
    Israel a SOCIALIST state.
    Nazis a SOCIALIST state.
    And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword . . . (Joshua 6:21)
    For modern day reinforcement of these “rules” research/google “the KINGS TORAH”
    Also here – http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/robert_fisk_qana.html

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  193. @Twodees Partain
    Training police is obviously not the answer, if it is done in response to a homicide or assault by the police officer. The proper response to such an act by a cop is to fire him, and ask that he be prosecuted in the same way any other person would be prosecuted for a homicide or armed assault.

    That too. But do you think that is going to do much of the education and deterrence needed before people are wrongly shot?

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    No, probably not. The best way to deter wrongful shootings by police is to eliminate police departments. Since that seems unlikely to happen, we're left with dealing with the shooters after they have shot someone.
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  194. donaldo says:

    What are the lands that Zionists aspire to obtain for their Greater Israel? In Genesis chapter 15, God supposedly gave the Israeli people all the lands between the Nile River on the southwest to the Euphrates River on the northeast. If this is the goal of Zionist expansionism, the world is in for another few hundred years of wars. Why don’t the surrounding Arab nations form a committee to plan for a joint military action for drive Israel back to its 1967 borders, that approved by the UN. It appears that military might is the only “fact on the ground” recognized by AIPAC and other Israel supporters.

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  195. Art says:
    @Anon
    Hi Art:
    "Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world."
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews
    2. The Soviet alia has been mostly economic migrants; the Jewish Africans would love to relocate to Israel but the master-race does not like black people (if they are not African-Americans)

    “Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world.”
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews

    Anon,

    Sorry I got that 100% wrong – that has happened before – will happen again – I apologize.

    Art

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  196. @Anon
    Of course Weiss doesn't care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don't care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don't care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely"care" about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.

    I think he does care. He wouldn’t have pursued this issue for so long if he didn’t.

    But his solutions — destruction of Israel along with the West — are worse than the problem in the long run.

    Best solution is for Zionism to become a nationalism than imperialism and for Jews to accept that Poland and Hungary are right to want to preserve their national integrity rooted in blood and soil. People overlook the fact that Nazism’s main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc.

    Israel is somewhat different from other non-European cases because Jews do have some kind of historical claim to the land. Granted, if every people decided to reclaim lost homelands, we’d see WWIII, WWIV, and etc.
    But if Jews were to limit their influence to Israel, even the Muslim World could learn to live with Israel as Jewish State. But if Zionism remains in ‘neocon’ imperialist mode, there will be more troubles ahead. It led to Iraq War, Libya disaster, hell in Syria, Russian involvement in Syria, and now more tensions about Iran.

    This is why America First is an essential agenda. As America is the global hegemon, there will be less globo-imperialism if US focuses on its own affairs than serving as (corrupt and bribed) policeman of the world. US as policeman would be more tolerable if it were a fair policeman. But US politicians and Deep State are whores of the ruling elites with their globo-Zionist agenda. And that ruins US reputation around the world as a fair enforcer of the peace and justice.

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    It'd be time well spent to read your stuff, PF, if you did something about that bug up yer arse re Germany.
    , @Ace
    ** People overlook the fact that Nazism’s main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc. **

    Your's is a crucial point for people unenthusiastic about the E.U., supposedly created as a solution to "nationalism" but, in fact, an on-going project to create a totalitarian, leftist superstate, the cause of all the ills of the last century.

    The loathsome Peter Sutherland promotes "racism" as the cause of the world's misery before WWII but he means nationalism, and a bastard version of it, if that. You can't just love your country and your kinsmen but you must also necessarily have a desire for lebensraum and mass killing. It's a pathetic lie but he and his friends have gotten a lot of mileage out of it.
    , @OilcanFloyd

    I think he does care. He wouldn’t have pursued this issue for so long if he didn’t.
     
    He cares about something, but it's not necessarily the Palestinians, or only the Palestinians. His concern obviously isn't about the Americans who are harmed fighting Israel's wars, fleeced to support Israel, or the damage and corruption the support of Israel brings to the U.S. If Weiss really cared about Palestinians, he'd be over there fighting or volunteering like many Americans did in the service of the Brits during WWII. My guess is that Palestinians aren't paying him to write, either.

    Some Jews have a historical claim to Israel, as do some Christians, Muslims, and others. But I seriously doubt that Weiss can make such a claim, not that it would make much sense 2000 or more years later. Who really knows who their ancestors were, or where they were, 2000 years ago, anyway?

    Good luck getting Weiss to support anything resembling an America First agenda. He's the classic hostile Jew.

    I don't really view National Socialism as imperialistic, at least not in the same way that Germany was imperialist under the Kaiser. Hitler's main concern was the Soviets, and that concern was shared by the many non-Germans from all over Europe who volunteered to fight for Germany against the Soviets. Western Europe had plenty of communist front groups operating within, so that conflict was coming one way or another, and wasn't really an imperial endeavor.
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  197. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    I have more respect for an approach such as yours . At least You aren't pretending to care about PaLiestinians .

    Well, there is no major difference between the Nazi and neo-Nazi thugs and the “most moral” IDF. The Lobby (including Friends of Israel in the UK) is a voracious parasite on a body of western civilization. You quetching re Palestinians (the native descendants of the ancient Jews — as compared to the motley and ethnically unconvincing crowd of modern Israelis) is akin to quetching by a thug about too much light exposing his thievery and premeditated murder.

    “The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years… Then it fell apart…”

    “How Israel weaponizes archeology:” https://israelpalestinenews.org/weaponizing-archeology/
    “During the early years of Israel’s existence, bulldozers removed Ottoman and Mameluke remains, Arab and Crusader artifacts, Byzantine and Roman and Greek and Persian remnants—in order to find “pay dirt” biblical Hebrew artifacts. Zionist forces wiped out 400-600 Palestinian villages in the 1940s. Hundreds of historical monuments and places of worship (primarily mosques) were also targeted for demolition after the 1948 war. Cartographers were sent out to make a new map, renaming cities, villages, rivers, etc. with Israeli/Hebrew names to erase all vestiges of Palestinian presence. According to the Israel Government Yearbook, 5719, almost 60,000 homes and 10,000 businesses were appropriated during Israel’s early years…. many of Gaza’s most valuable artifacts have turned up in Israeli museums. The appropriation of archeological sites and their artifacts is, by definition, illegal, but Israel has a great deal of experience in flouting international law and getting away with it.”

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  198. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    “Expel the progeny of ancient Jews and invite economic migrants of uncertain ethnicity from all corners of the world.”
    1. Palestinians are the progeny of ancient Jews
     
    Anon,

    Sorry I got that 100% wrong – that has happened before – will happen again – I apologize.

    Art

    Art, no problem. This is a forum by writing … no speech intonation.

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  199. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous
    I question the sincerity of liberal jews like Phil Weiss, but that aside, it is true that every crime committed by jews against the Palestinians is sanctioned by the American jewish community as a whole. And how long will this last for? As long as American jews control our foreign policy and therefore our Empire's strides across the mideast. But take heart, Empire is now losing its stride - this article here breaks down Empire's current geopolitical status in the world:
    Empire of Gunpowder and Glass: https://platosguns.com/2017/12/24/empire-of-gunpowder-and-glass/

    Here’s Taxi’s comment on this article:

    Thanks Nancy.

    The story you’ve linked to about the young Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi driving everyone in israel nuts has indeed gone viral. Despite myself, I started to read the Mondoweiss article you linked on this subject but couldn’t get past the point where liberal jew-supremist Phil Weiss started singing the praises of Jewish Voices for Peace, whom I consider to be Controlled Opposition agents and the worst thing that has ever happened to the US Palestine solidarity movement. Yes, in my mind, Mondoweiss is ‘manicured’ enemy territory. And JVP is a Sabanist implant whose agenda is to silence gentile pro Palestinians in America whenever their voices err away from the Jewish boundary of ‘acceptable’ speech, meaning: no one is permitted to question jewish revisionism of history, or critique judaism itself and its nefarious hand in so very many wars and deaths throughout history. Any criticism that questions the established jewish narrative is deemed antisemitic in JVP’s eyes and they organize smear campaigns against ‘rebel critics’ in exactly the same way Aipac does in DC and elsewhere in the world.

    You must understand that American jews are always, always playing ‘good cop/bad cop’ with the goyim – but really, they all believe in their superiority and chosenness, even atheist jews believe in their chosenness. And this is why I never buy the fake/self-serving sympathy of jews towards Palestinians. I have zero trust in ANY so-called ‘friendly’ jews working the Palestine beat – especially ones who actually live in israel. If they really believed in justice for Palestinians, they’d pack up and leave the despicable, terrorist jewish colony and give back what rightfully belongs to Palestinians, which is the WHOLE of Historic Palestine, not just some of it. Partial colonization is still colonization; partial occupation is still occupation – and where the heck is the ‘justice’ in that?

    Some of JVP funding (and mondoweiss too) is non-transparent, but just take a look here at some of their transparent funders: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/uncovering-the-jvp-funding-network/

    The Rockefellers are the major donors of JVP and the Rothschilds own 37% of the Rockfellers dynasty: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9300205/Rothschild-and-Rockefeller-their-family-fortunes.html

    Need I say more?

    No, dear Nancy, neither Phil Weiss nor JVP are able to do ANYTHING for Palestine except act as gatekeepers and earn a good living off the backs of Palestinian suffering. I can’t tell you the depth of loathing I feel for such covert war profiteers.

    JVP talks the talk but does not walk the walk. Certainly, no Palestinian is waiting on American liberal jews to physically liberate them from jewish occupation. Only an utter fool would hand over their life and future to a two-faced monster like JVP and its string of associates and fake activists.

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    I agree with Taxi. Here is the link to her article - well worth reading:
    https://platosguns.com/2017/12/24/empire-of-gunpowder-and-glass/#more-33490
    , @L.K
    Great post by this Taxi, I didn't know him or his blog, seems great.

    I 100% agree with him re Mondoweiss & JVP.

    I find it odd, but perhaps this ain't surprising, that we have articles by Mondoweiss re-published here, but not the brave Alison Weir's pieces, which are the real deal, she pulls no punches & tells it like it is.

    Anyway, thank you and the other person for the links.

    http://ifamericaknew.org/about_us/alisonweir.html
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  200. This is the absolute truth….

    Philip Weiss dislike Zionism (Jewish Nationalism) because he (like many Jews before him) believes that Israel is not in the interest of Jews. Jews are historically a wandering minority without a state. They thrived in this condition and forged an extremely tight-knit community. Jews worked (they still do) in trade, banking, medicine, accounting, law, newsmen, wholesalers and as pawn brokers. They hired not only their friends and relatives but people within the tribe. So long you were a member of the tribe (and did not assimilate) you were fairly financially secure.

    While natives in the host nations couldn’t expect help from their fellow countrymen Jews received help from other Jews. Romani people (gypsies) are also a wandering minority that moved to West Balkans and Anatolia in the 12th century. These people worked as street musicians, fortune tellers and entertainers. Many were petty thieves and street hustlers. The Romani people did not have the educational culture and drive to thrive in Europe but they couldn’t go back to Asia. By the 18th century many Jews had become enormously wealthy. Most Jews were in the upper-middle class. The Romani people were still dirt poor. Hence, for Jews life without a nation-state has been a good thing.

    Recently, Philip Weiss and others in the liberal “anti-Zionist” movement have approached some new strategies. For example, they have partly redefined Jews as whites. Whites are not allowed by the J-community to practise ethno-nationalism. Has it been successful? Not at all as most Jews comfortable with the double standard and do not see themselves as whites. I have read articles, blogs and feeds from people within this “anti-Zionist” movement I think some have somewhat a soft spot for Russia. This is not because they have any love for Russia but because they want to break down the Zionist Western post-liberal hegemony. In the end these “anti-Zionists” wants to see is a remade world order were Jews once again are a wandering people.

    Most Jews are not that dumb that they would get rid of Israel. In fact, Zionism is since the 1950s imbedded in the Jewish culture together with the holocaust. I have visited Israel a few times and have a few Israeli friends. I will tell you, Israel is a great place to live so long you have some kind of reasonable income and most Israelis do. Yes, Israel has a problem with underunemployment among college graduates (similar to Western countries) and government spend too much on the military (although obvious as they are occupying land not belonging to them and wage proxy-wars around the region) but other than that I see no reason why Jews in Israel would pack their bags and leave. Jews can plunder all around the world and then when they need it just pack their bags and move to Israel. It is a wonderful thing so why give it up?

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    The Romani people did not have the educational culture and drive to thrive in Europe but they couldn’t go back to Asia. By the 18th century many Jews had become enormously wealthy. Most Jews were in the upper-middle class. The Romani people were still dirt poor. Hence, for Jews life without a nation-state has been a good thing.
     
    Nonsense.

    Max Nordau worked ardently for zionism precisely to "regenerate" the masses of Jews who were "physically and mentally de-generated."

    German Jews were wealthy, educated & sound(er) of body; Eastern European Jews in late-19th to first part of 20th century were overpopulated, inbred, and repulsive to their own ethnic brothers.

    Max Nordau and the Making of Racial Zionism
    https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1700&context=honr_theses

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  201. @Logan
    My comment was to a considerable extent meant ironically. It's amazing how often the standard litanies of the sins of the West fall apart when examined.

    For instance, let us take the horrific practice of racism by the British conquerors of India. To a rational person the Brits were simply following the ancient native custom of caste, just slipping themselves in as the top caste. How a people following caste customs could object with a straight face to the relatively mild race discrimination by the British is beyond me.

    Or the constantly repeated propaganda about the horrific atrocities by US troops at Sand Creek and Wounded Knee, where women and children were killed in quantity.

    Let us assume the very worst stories about these events are 100% true. In that case, the US troops were simply showing cultural sensitivity by applying native customs rather than imposing their own.

    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops. AFAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.

    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops.

    Well the story is that “we” are better, no?

    So why not have the balls to admit that Western “civilization” is a farce and bloody joke?

    Are you saying that these things are just fine, or what?

    FAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.

    You cannot prove that. Do you think it’s likely that anyone would’ve recorded it in any case? Anyway, setting aside the issue of Indians, but addressing the issue of torture, what have you to say about American treatment of Filipino freedom fighters who were betrayed by the USA and were subsequently subjected to torture including waterboarding? What have you to say about the sicko antics in Abu Ghraib? How about the treatment of chattel slaves in the US? Does that not count as torture in many cases? how about the use of napalm and WP against civilians?

    Bottom line, the US and Israel have been every bit as savage as anyone else, and whether anyone else engaged in such does not relive “us” of our guilt, but keep trying.

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    Welcome to the wonderful world of faux-sophisticate moral equivalency.

    I can't prove that US troops did not routinely take Indian men, women and children captive in order to leisurely torture them to death over and extended period, therefore it must have actually happened.

    The false moral equivalency is easily seen in your own words. "Do you think it’s likely that anyone would’ve recorded it in any case?" Well, of course not, because for our culture it would be shameful to do such things. OTOH, for many/most Indian tribes it would have been a matter of pride, indeed in many tribes a skillful torturer gained great status.

    Filipinos were mistreated, but AFAIK for purposes of obtaining information, not for entertainment. The US record there, BTW, is overall not nearly as negative as it is sometimes portrayed. Certainly it's better than the European colonists in the same area, much less the Japanese.

    Abu Ghraib was horrible, and those responsible, including senior officers who permitted it, should have been punished to the full extent of the law. But this itself again illustrates the difference in cultures. In our's, it's against the law and mores and when exposed is punished. In many others, it's acccepted and even lauded.

    Chattel slaves throughout history everywhere have been horribly mistreated, in the US as well as elsewhere. More so as slaves become a greater threat due to their numbers relative to the masters. But there is excellent evidence of several kinds that southern US slavery was quite likely among the mildest in history. Horrible, but less so than elsewhere.

    Napalm is nasty, but I'm not entirely sure it's all that much worse than being gutshot and left to die slowly.

    So, yeah, while recognizing our imperfections, I do think our culture is better than some others, at least in certain ways, among them the general disapproval rather than glorification of torture.

    , @Ace
    Jacques your distorted hatred of your own kind is amazing.

    Perhaps Logan has in mind the story of the Jesuit captured by the Iroquois. They roasted him over a slow fire, dripped hot pine tar on his head, and cut off his lips. That was a public group project. Abu Ghraib was not and plainly against Army regulations.

    Your point that real horrors committed by your kinsmen would have been kept out of the records is laughable. As is your belief that the US military targeted civilians as civilians in Nam or later.

    You should take Isaac Bashevis Singer's point to heart, Jacques: The world crawls with wickedness but it also has many wonders.

    The last part is key. Day in and day out, year after year, your people have done great things and shown much decency They do not live half in a cesspool. And never will build that perfect, flawless society that is your quest.
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  202. Trav says:

    Jews don’t act because acting would be not “good for the jews.” That is the lens that jews use to view the world, what is good for their kosher nostra.

    Schiff supported the Bolsheviks because his cousin, Lev Bronstein (Trotsky) was the leader of it, not out of some moral qualms about the czar. When has morality ever been a concern to this people? They are an ethnic mafia that behaves and takes power like an ethnic mafia would and who discount everyone’s interests but their own. They are adept through their media cousins at reframing self-interested acts in terms of some supposed higher morality, such as flooding white nations with brown people. Somehow, diversity is an unalloyed “good,” but really it only is so long as it serves jewish interests. In Israel, where “democracy” would threaten their ethnic state given multiculturalism, they staunchly oppose it, sometimes in the same breath as agitating for the demographic replacement of the West. The very same opinion writers can be seen writing articles strongly for or against immigration, depending only on whether the target State is Israel or a historically white nation.

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  203. Trav says:
    @Michelle
    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain't trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel? Yes, an injustice was served by the UN, giving Arab property over to Jews, but that is all water under the bridge. Life is not fair, as most of our dear, departed mothers used to say. Palestinians need to deal with reality and move along. Just as European, Asian, Black and Hispanic Americans are not going to give up their land to Native-Americans, Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians. The Palestinians need make the best deal possible under the circumstances.

    No, @michelle (57), jews aren’t trying to blow us up.

    They are just trying to slowly exterminate us and replace us with brown people. Feels so much better

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  204. Michelle says:
    @white noise
    @Michelle

    Israeli Jews are not going to give up their land to Palestinians.
     
    It's the Palestinians' land, that the Jews stole, by brute force, with the complicity of the British... Get over it? I don't think so. The worst (for Israhell) is yet to come.

    Are you Jewish or just a generic troll?

    Yeah, I came out <1% Ashkenazi on my Ancestry DNA test. So Jewish!!

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  205. Michelle says:
    @Art

    The West has a lot of problems with Jews, but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you. Palestinians and their allies have nothing to recommend to me, nothing whatsoever. They are a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. Why pick their side over Israel?
     
    What a shallow understanding of reality.

    Muslims are attacking us because we are killing their people every day all over the world - for the benefit of Israel.

    The US Jews manipulation of our democracy, brought 9/11 to our shores.

    We support the Palestinians because they are the victims of Jew aggression.

    You need to wise up and get a informed.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Arabs attacked us before we agressed. I am very informed, thank you. Go take a hike!

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    Arabs attacked us before we agressed. I am very informed, thank you.

    Me thinks you are very informed in Hasbara 101 talking points.

    Yes we know the story' way back when, some cave man agressed Moshe, so god gave Israel to the Jews.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. When are the Jews going to compensate the Palestinians for their pain and suffering?

    p.s. That is the modern way to do things.

    p.s. Why are the Jews so inferior when it comes to morals. Why can't they shake their tribalness?

    p.s. Is it because they indoctrinate their children at such a tender age?

    p.s. Maybe when you are filled with fear and hate at 5 - you can never overcome it?
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  206. Michelle says:
    @Anon
    "...but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you."
    --- Yes. They simply arrange the US/EU boys and girls to go to blow others to smithereens (mostly civilians, of all ages) and to become blown to smithereens themselves, occasionally. See the genesis of Iraq war (illegal war of aggression). See the mass slaughter in Libya and Syria (mostly civilians, of all ages). And do not forget the targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. By the way, Michail Ledeen (of aluminum tubes fame) is an influential ziocon and former member of Nazi-professing Gladio, a terrorist organization famous for blowing Europeans to smithereens.
    "Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq:" https://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
    "Iraq: A War For Israel:" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml https://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/13/neocons-regroup-on-libyan-war/
    " Iraq, Libya and Syria destroyed for Israel:" https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/01/us-analyst-iraq-libya-and-syria-destroyed-for-israel/

    You are too silly for me! Palestinians were having conniptions long before the Iraq war. I would much rather live in Israel than in any part of the Palestinian territories. Nuff said.

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    "I would much rather live in Israel than in any part of the Palestinian territories"
    -- What your desire to live in the apartheid state of "eternal victims" has to do with my post? -
    You statement: “…but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you.”
    My response: — Yes. They simply arrange the US/EU boys and girls to go to blow others to smithereens (mostly civilians, of all ages) and to become blown to smithereens themselves, occasionally. See the genesis of Iraq war (illegal war of aggression). See the mass slaughter in Libya and Syria (mostly civilians, of all ages). And do not forget the targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. By the way, Michail Ledeen (of aluminum tubes fame) is an influential ziocon and former member of Nazi-professing Gladio, a terrorist organization famous for blowing Europeans to smithereens.
    “Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq:” https://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
    “Iraq: A War For Israel:” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml https://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/13/neocons-regroup-on-libyan-war/
    ” Iraq, Libya and Syria destroyed for Israel:” https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/01/us-analyst-iraq-libya-and-syria-destroyed-for-israel/
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  207. Michelle says:
    @white noise
    @ Michelle

    "but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you"

    All the terrorist attacks in America and Europe are masterminded and at least partially operated by Mossad, Israel's 'intelligence' agency.

    You're a troll, aren't you?

    I’m not a troll, but you are a certifiable looney.

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  208. Logan says:
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    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops.
     
    Well the story is that "we" are better, no?

    So why not have the balls to admit that Western "civilization" is a farce and bloody joke?

    Are you saying that these things are just fine, or what?


    FAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.
     
    You cannot prove that. Do you think it's likely that anyone would've recorded it in any case? Anyway, setting aside the issue of Indians, but addressing the issue of torture, what have you to say about American treatment of Filipino freedom fighters who were betrayed by the USA and were subsequently subjected to torture including waterboarding? What have you to say about the sicko antics in Abu Ghraib? How about the treatment of chattel slaves in the US? Does that not count as torture in many cases? how about the use of napalm and WP against civilians?

    Bottom line, the US and Israel have been every bit as savage as anyone else, and whether anyone else engaged in such does not relive "us" of our guilt, but keep trying.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of faux-sophisticate moral equivalency.

    I can’t prove that US troops did not routinely take Indian men, women and children captive in order to leisurely torture them to death over and extended period, therefore it must have actually happened.

    The false moral equivalency is easily seen in your own words. “Do you think it’s likely that anyone would’ve recorded it in any case?” Well, of course not, because for our culture it would be shameful to do such things. OTOH, for many/most Indian tribes it would have been a matter of pride, indeed in many tribes a skillful torturer gained great status.

    Filipinos were mistreated, but AFAIK for purposes of obtaining information, not for entertainment. The US record there, BTW, is overall not nearly as negative as it is sometimes portrayed. Certainly it’s better than the European colonists in the same area, much less the Japanese.

    Abu Ghraib was horrible, and those responsible, including senior officers who permitted it, should have been punished to the full extent of the law. But this itself again illustrates the difference in cultures. In our’s, it’s against the law and mores and when exposed is punished. In many others, it’s acccepted and even lauded.

    Chattel slaves throughout history everywhere have been horribly mistreated, in the US as well as elsewhere. More so as slaves become a greater threat due to their numbers relative to the masters. But there is excellent evidence of several kinds that southern US slavery was quite likely among the mildest in history. Horrible, but less so than elsewhere.

    Napalm is nasty, but I’m not entirely sure it’s all that much worse than being gutshot and left to die slowly.

    So, yeah, while recognizing our imperfections, I do think our culture is better than some others, at least in certain ways, among them the general disapproval rather than glorification of torture.

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    Don't make me laugh.

    Few countries if any - maybe the British - can match the US in terms of lunatic war mongering, over 90% of its history at war, almost all wars of choice and Empire.

    Your "superior" civilization holds the great distinction of being the only to have nuked 2 entire Japanese cities, a totally unnecessary & cowardly war crime...

    The ZUSA is a completely lunatic, rogue state.

    PS: one day, eating dinner, I turn on the idiot box for some mindless "entertainment" and find this US cop show, recent one, Chicago PD, where the cop in charge is fond of using torture to obtain 'intel'.
    It appears the torture always produces great intel, unlike in real life, and therefore the use of torture is justified.
    Considering the long use of torture by the US & Tv/movies such as the one I've mentioned, I find it doubtful that in the ZUS, there is real "general disapproval" of the use of torture.
    , @jacques sheete
    Bottom line, the US and Israel have been every bit as savage as anyone else, and whether anyone else engaged in such does not relive “us” of our guilt, but keep trying.
    , @jacques sheete

    I can’t prove that US troops did not routinely take Indian men, women and children captive in order to leisurely torture them to death over and extended period, therefore it must have actually happened.
     
    Um, no, but nice try at ridicule instead of reason, but, fail.

    You can’t prove that US troops did not routinely take Indian men, women and children captive in order to leisurely torture them to death over and extended period because even if it did, and one could provide ample, glaring evidence for it, you wouldn't want to admit it. Worse, you'd no doubt try to cover it up, or even justify it.

    You're fooling no one, but keep trying.

    FYI, the treatment of the Plains Indians at the hands of the US military is just one example of leisurely torturing people through starvation and it was not only routine, but planned that way. Some call it intentional genocide in fact.

    The Brits, too, were famous for starving millions to death as well. White commies, too. Think Holodomor, for one.

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  209. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Michelle
    You are too silly for me! Palestinians were having conniptions long before the Iraq war. I would much rather live in Israel than in any part of the Palestinian territories. Nuff said.

    “I would much rather live in Israel than in any part of the Palestinian territories”
    – What your desire to live in the apartheid state of “eternal victims” has to do with my post? -
    You statement: “…but Jews ain’t trying to blow us to smithereens during marathons, concerts, what have you.”
    My response: — Yes. They simply arrange the US/EU boys and girls to go to blow others to smithereens (mostly civilians, of all ages) and to become blown to smithereens themselves, occasionally. See the genesis of Iraq war (illegal war of aggression). See the mass slaughter in Libya and Syria (mostly civilians, of all ages). And do not forget the targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. By the way, Michail Ledeen (of aluminum tubes fame) is an influential ziocon and former member of Nazi-professing Gladio, a terrorist organization famous for blowing Europeans to smithereens.
    “Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq:” https://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
    “Iraq: A War For Israel:” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml https://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/13/neocons-regroup-on-libyan-war/
    ” Iraq, Libya and Syria destroyed for Israel:” https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/01/us-analyst-iraq-libya-and-syria-destroyed-for-israel/

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    An Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the recent power outage in Atlanta without being inspected by U S customs. This reeks of covert activity… The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand". Just maybe one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces "split loyalty"--NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.
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  210. @RobinG
    Here's Taxi's comment on this article:

    Thanks Nancy.

    The story you've linked to about the young Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi driving everyone in israel nuts has indeed gone viral. Despite myself, I started to read the Mondoweiss article you linked on this subject but couldn't get past the point where liberal jew-supremist Phil Weiss started singing the praises of Jewish Voices for Peace, whom I consider to be Controlled Opposition agents and the worst thing that has ever happened to the US Palestine solidarity movement. Yes, in my mind, Mondoweiss is 'manicured' enemy territory. And JVP is a Sabanist implant whose agenda is to silence gentile pro Palestinians in America whenever their voices err away from the Jewish boundary of 'acceptable' speech, meaning: no one is permitted to question jewish revisionism of history, or critique judaism itself and its nefarious hand in so very many wars and deaths throughout history. Any criticism that questions the established jewish narrative is deemed antisemitic in JVP's eyes and they organize smear campaigns against 'rebel critics' in exactly the same way Aipac does in DC and elsewhere in the world.

    You must understand that American jews are always, always playing 'good cop/bad cop' with the goyim – but really, they all believe in their superiority and chosenness, even atheist jews believe in their chosenness. And this is why I never buy the fake/self-serving sympathy of jews towards Palestinians. I have zero trust in ANY so-called 'friendly' jews working the Palestine beat – especially ones who actually live in israel. If they really believed in justice for Palestinians, they'd pack up and leave the despicable, terrorist jewish colony and give back what rightfully belongs to Palestinians, which is the WHOLE of Historic Palestine, not just some of it. Partial colonization is still colonization; partial occupation is still occupation – and where the heck is the 'justice' in that?

    Some of JVP funding (and mondoweiss too) is non-transparent, but just take a look here at some of their transparent funders: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/uncovering-the-jvp-funding-network/

    The Rockefellers are the major donors of JVP and the Rothschilds own 37% of the Rockfellers dynasty: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9300205/Rothschild-and-Rockefeller-their-family-fortunes.html

    Need I say more?

    No, dear Nancy, neither Phil Weiss nor JVP are able to do ANYTHING for Palestine except act as gatekeepers and earn a good living off the backs of Palestinian suffering. I can't tell you the depth of loathing I feel for such covert war profiteers.

    JVP talks the talk but does not walk the walk. Certainly, no Palestinian is waiting on American liberal jews to physically liberate them from jewish occupation. Only an utter fool would hand over their life and future to a two-faced monster like JVP and its string of associates and fake activists.
     

    I agree with Taxi. Here is the link to her article – well worth reading:

    https://platosguns.com/2017/12/24/empire-of-gunpowder-and-glass/#more-33490

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  211. Zumbuddi says:
    @Priss Factor
    I think he does care. He wouldn't have pursued this issue for so long if he didn't.

    But his solutions -- destruction of Israel along with the West -- are worse than the problem in the long run.

    Best solution is for Zionism to become a nationalism than imperialism and for Jews to accept that Poland and Hungary are right to want to preserve their national integrity rooted in blood and soil. People overlook the fact that Nazism's main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc.

    Israel is somewhat different from other non-European cases because Jews do have some kind of historical claim to the land. Granted, if every people decided to reclaim lost homelands, we'd see WWIII, WWIV, and etc.
    But if Jews were to limit their influence to Israel, even the Muslim World could learn to live with Israel as Jewish State. But if Zionism remains in 'neocon' imperialist mode, there will be more troubles ahead. It led to Iraq War, Libya disaster, hell in Syria, Russian involvement in Syria, and now more tensions about Iran.

    This is why America First is an essential agenda. As America is the global hegemon, there will be less globo-imperialism if US focuses on its own affairs than serving as (corrupt and bribed) policeman of the world. US as policeman would be more tolerable if it were a fair policeman. But US politicians and Deep State are whores of the ruling elites with their globo-Zionist agenda. And that ruins US reputation around the world as a fair enforcer of the peace and justice.

    It’d be time well spent to read your stuff, PF, if you did something about that bug up yer arse re Germany.

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  212. L.K says: • Website
    @RobinG
    Here's Taxi's comment on this article:

    Thanks Nancy.

    The story you've linked to about the young Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi driving everyone in israel nuts has indeed gone viral. Despite myself, I started to read the Mondoweiss article you linked on this subject but couldn't get past the point where liberal jew-supremist Phil Weiss started singing the praises of Jewish Voices for Peace, whom I consider to be Controlled Opposition agents and the worst thing that has ever happened to the US Palestine solidarity movement. Yes, in my mind, Mondoweiss is 'manicured' enemy territory. And JVP is a Sabanist implant whose agenda is to silence gentile pro Palestinians in America whenever their voices err away from the Jewish boundary of 'acceptable' speech, meaning: no one is permitted to question jewish revisionism of history, or critique judaism itself and its nefarious hand in so very many wars and deaths throughout history. Any criticism that questions the established jewish narrative is deemed antisemitic in JVP's eyes and they organize smear campaigns against 'rebel critics' in exactly the same way Aipac does in DC and elsewhere in the world.

    You must understand that American jews are always, always playing 'good cop/bad cop' with the goyim – but really, they all believe in their superiority and chosenness, even atheist jews believe in their chosenness. And this is why I never buy the fake/self-serving sympathy of jews towards Palestinians. I have zero trust in ANY so-called 'friendly' jews working the Palestine beat – especially ones who actually live in israel. If they really believed in justice for Palestinians, they'd pack up and leave the despicable, terrorist jewish colony and give back what rightfully belongs to Palestinians, which is the WHOLE of Historic Palestine, not just some of it. Partial colonization is still colonization; partial occupation is still occupation – and where the heck is the 'justice' in that?

    Some of JVP funding (and mondoweiss too) is non-transparent, but just take a look here at some of their transparent funders: https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/uncovering-the-jvp-funding-network/

    The Rockefellers are the major donors of JVP and the Rothschilds own 37% of the Rockfellers dynasty: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9300205/Rothschild-and-Rockefeller-their-family-fortunes.html

    Need I say more?

    No, dear Nancy, neither Phil Weiss nor JVP are able to do ANYTHING for Palestine except act as gatekeepers and earn a good living off the backs of Palestinian suffering. I can't tell you the depth of loathing I feel for such covert war profiteers.

    JVP talks the talk but does not walk the walk. Certainly, no Palestinian is waiting on American liberal jews to physically liberate them from jewish occupation. Only an utter fool would hand over their life and future to a two-faced monster like JVP and its string of associates and fake activists.
     

    Great post by this Taxi, I didn’t know him or his blog, seems great.

    I 100% agree with him re Mondoweiss & JVP.

    I find it odd, but perhaps this ain’t surprising, that we have articles by Mondoweiss re-published here, but not the brave Alison Weir’s pieces, which are the real deal, she pulls no punches & tells it like it is.

    Anyway, thank you and the other person for the links.

    http://ifamericaknew.org/about_us/alisonweir.html

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    UR has published a number of Alison's articles, no problem.

    Taxi is a she, an ex-pat American living south of Beirut. The whole question of whether, and how, to work with the gatekeepers is an ongoing concern. Would you rather they didn't exist? The Christian do-gooders present the same problem. Some of them recognize that they are de facto enablers of the occupation. This is why disarming the Israel Lobby here in US is so important.
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  213. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anon
    Come on Jack . As a caring humanitarian who has spilt gallons of tears for PaLiestinians , do tell why you care not for these conflicts and occupation which all have death tolls 100x higher than Israel ?

    If Israel’s army is bad , how much worse is : Russia’s occupation of Chechnya , Chinas occupation of Tibet , Indonesia’s occupation of Papua , Turkeys occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan, Sudan’s occupation of Darfur , Nigeria’s occupation of Biafra, Moroccos occupation of Western Sahara . All have killed 100x more civilian than Israel has. Now why haven’t I seen you whine about them ,?

    Btw I never claimed victory only that the WN crowd admitted defeat and now resigns itself to cuck/cheerlead for Islam . Pathetic actually. Wake up White man lololzlzlz

    The destruction of culture, infrastructure and millions of innocent people in Germany, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon; threats to Iran — all go on Jewish – Israel scorecard.

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  214. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Of course Weiss doesn't care about PaLiestinians , but you should understand that as well as anyone because you don't care about them either. paLiestinians are nothing but a handy tool , Weiss has his use for the tool and you have yours.

    You don't care about PaLiestinisns , you just hate Jews and PaLiestinians are a convenient tool on that end . You will gleefully invent caveats for why you intensely"care" about a minor conflict with a very low loss of life or land but at the same time ignore other conflicts with body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions :

    Indonesian occupation of Papua, Nigerian occupation of Biafra, Chinese occupation of Tibet , Russian occupation of Chechnya, Sudanese occupation of Darfur, Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan.

    And even though National Socialism was a severe case of nationalist antisemitism, the origins of Hitler’s rage were imperial. He grew up in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where ethnic tensions were intensifying due to Slavic and other hostilities. If he’d grown up in a secure Germanic nation, he might have regarded Jews as just a minority that should be tolerated. But he got radicalized in the Austro-Hungarian Empire where politics was so hostile along ethnic lines because non-Austrians felt oppressed by Austro-Hungarian elite power. And since this bitterness was directed at ALL Austrians,

    I’m confused: first you say Hitler’s rage focused on Jews, then on Austrian empire.

    But since you validate Weiss’s reference to Kafka:

    The most brilliant Jew in the world, Franz Kafka came out of his office in Prague to see Jews being beaten and he went to Zionist meetings.

    making it OK for Jews to take action — Weiss insists — against the (perceived) oppressors, actions involving buttonholing the pharaoh, reprising a pattern as old as Joseph —

    As Jews were beaten and killed by marauding gangs with the blessing of the state — American Jews were not silent. Jews acted. Their leaders went to the White House . . .

    — then why is it not equally OK for Germans to have taken action — non-violent action; actions that Breitbart and Lichtman call “semi-legal” actions under their own leadership to protect German people who were being oppressed?

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  215. @far-rightviewer
    This is the absolute truth....

    Philip Weiss dislike Zionism (Jewish Nationalism) because he (like many Jews before him) believes that Israel is not in the interest of Jews. Jews are historically a wandering minority without a state. They thrived in this condition and forged an extremely tight-knit community. Jews worked (they still do) in trade, banking, medicine, accounting, law, newsmen, wholesalers and as pawn brokers. They hired not only their friends and relatives but people within the tribe. So long you were a member of the tribe (and did not assimilate) you were fairly financially secure.

    While natives in the host nations couldn’t expect help from their fellow countrymen Jews received help from other Jews. Romani people (gypsies) are also a wandering minority that moved to West Balkans and Anatolia in the 12th century. These people worked as street musicians, fortune tellers and entertainers. Many were petty thieves and street hustlers. The Romani people did not have the educational culture and drive to thrive in Europe but they couldn’t go back to Asia. By the 18th century many Jews had become enormously wealthy. Most Jews were in the upper-middle class. The Romani people were still dirt poor. Hence, for Jews life without a nation-state has been a good thing.

    Recently, Philip Weiss and others in the liberal “anti-Zionist” movement have approached some new strategies. For example, they have partly redefined Jews as whites. Whites are not allowed by the J-community to practise ethno-nationalism. Has it been successful? Not at all as most Jews comfortable with the double standard and do not see themselves as whites. I have read articles, blogs and feeds from people within this “anti-Zionist” movement I think some have somewhat a soft spot for Russia. This is not because they have any love for Russia but because they want to break down the Zionist Western post-liberal hegemony. In the end these “anti-Zionists” wants to see is a remade world order were Jews once again are a wandering people.

    Most Jews are not that dumb that they would get rid of Israel. In fact, Zionism is since the 1950s imbedded in the Jewish culture together with the holocaust. I have visited Israel a few times and have a few Israeli friends. I will tell you, Israel is a great place to live so long you have some kind of reasonable income and most Israelis do. Yes, Israel has a problem with underunemployment among college graduates (similar to Western countries) and government spend too much on the military (although obvious as they are occupying land not belonging to them and wage proxy-wars around the region) but other than that I see no reason why Jews in Israel would pack their bags and leave. Jews can plunder all around the world and then when they need it just pack their bags and move to Israel. It is a wonderful thing so why give it up?

    The Romani people did not have the educational culture and drive to thrive in Europe but they couldn’t go back to Asia. By the 18th century many Jews had become enormously wealthy. Most Jews were in the upper-middle class. The Romani people were still dirt poor. Hence, for Jews life without a nation-state has been a good thing.

    Nonsense.

    Max Nordau worked ardently for zionism precisely to “regenerate” the masses of Jews who were “physically and mentally de-generated.”

    German Jews were wealthy, educated & sound(er) of body; Eastern European Jews in late-19th to first part of 20th century were overpopulated, inbred, and repulsive to their own ethnic brothers.

    Max Nordau and the Making of Racial Zionism

    https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1700&context=honr_theses

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  216. RobinG says:
    @L.K
    Great post by this Taxi, I didn't know him or his blog, seems great.

    I 100% agree with him re Mondoweiss & JVP.

    I find it odd, but perhaps this ain't surprising, that we have articles by Mondoweiss re-published here, but not the brave Alison Weir's pieces, which are the real deal, she pulls no punches & tells it like it is.

    Anyway, thank you and the other person for the links.

    http://ifamericaknew.org/about_us/alisonweir.html

    UR has published a number of Alison’s articles, no problem.

    Taxi is a she, an ex-pat American living south of Beirut. The whole question of whether, and how, to work with the gatekeepers is an ongoing concern. Would you rather they didn’t exist? The Christian do-gooders present the same problem. Some of them recognize that they are de facto enablers of the occupation. This is why disarming the Israel Lobby here in US is so important.

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    The Christian do-gooders

    What other kind is there? (Christians, not do-gooders)

    I thought Christians were supposed to do good.

    You don't count the "philosophical" ones like Arts, do you?

    , @L.K
    "UR has published a number of Alison’s articles, no problem."

    If you say so, I believe you, never seen any of her articles here though, so must be relatively rare...

    "Taxi is a she, an ex-pat American living south of Beirut."

    Brave woman. The Zionist sissies have been threatening to carpet bomb Southern Lebanon again.

    "The whole question of whether, and how, to work with the gatekeepers is an ongoing concern. Would you rather they didn’t exist? The Christian do-gooders present the same problem."

    It seems I agree with Taxi that the gatekeepers do more harm than good... they shape the narrative to their interests at the expense of truth.

    The more seasoned, better informed people, a tiny minority, know better, but the casuals end up being hoodwinked.
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  217. L.K says: • Website
    @Logan
    Welcome to the wonderful world of faux-sophisticate moral equivalency.

    I can't prove that US troops did not routinely take Indian men, women and children captive in order to leisurely torture them to death over and extended period, therefore it must have actually happened.

    The false moral equivalency is easily seen in your own words. "Do you think it’s likely that anyone would’ve recorded it in any case?" Well, of course not, because for our culture it would be shameful to do such things. OTOH, for many/most Indian tribes it would have been a matter of pride, indeed in many tribes a skillful torturer gained great status.

    Filipinos were mistreated, but AFAIK for purposes of obtaining information, not for entertainment. The US record there, BTW, is overall not nearly as negative as it is sometimes portrayed. Certainly it's better than the European colonists in the same area, much less the Japanese.

    Abu Ghraib was horrible, and those responsible, including senior officers who permitted it, should have been punished to the full extent of the law. But this itself again illustrates the difference in cultures. In our's, it's against the law and mores and when exposed is punished. In many others, it's acccepted and even lauded.

    Chattel slaves throughout history everywhere have been horribly mistreated, in the US as well as elsewhere. More so as slaves become a greater threat due to their numbers relative to the masters. But there is excellent evidence of several kinds that southern US slavery was quite likely among the mildest in history. Horrible, but less so than elsewhere.

    Napalm is nasty, but I'm not entirely sure it's all that much worse than being gutshot and left to die slowly.

    So, yeah, while recognizing our imperfections, I do think our culture is better than some others, at least in certain ways, among them the general disapproval rather than glorification of torture.

    Don’t make me laugh.

    Few countries if any – maybe the British – can match the US in terms of lunatic war mongering, over 90% of its history at war, almost all wars of choice and Empire.

    Your “superior” civilization holds the great distinction of being the only to have nuked 2 entire Japanese cities, a totally unnecessary & cowardly war crime…

    The ZUSA is a completely lunatic, rogue state.

    PS: one day, eating dinner, I turn on the idiot box for some mindless “entertainment” and find this US cop show, recent one, Chicago PD, where the cop in charge is fond of using torture to obtain ‘intel’.
    It appears the torture always produces great intel, unlike in real life, and therefore the use of torture is justified.
    Considering the long use of torture by the US & Tv/movies such as the one I’ve mentioned, I find it doubtful that in the ZUS, there is real “general disapproval” of the use of torture.

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  218. Ace says:
    @Priss Factor
    I think he does care. He wouldn't have pursued this issue for so long if he didn't.

    But his solutions -- destruction of Israel along with the West -- are worse than the problem in the long run.

    Best solution is for Zionism to become a nationalism than imperialism and for Jews to accept that Poland and Hungary are right to want to preserve their national integrity rooted in blood and soil. People overlook the fact that Nazism's main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc.

    Israel is somewhat different from other non-European cases because Jews do have some kind of historical claim to the land. Granted, if every people decided to reclaim lost homelands, we'd see WWIII, WWIV, and etc.
    But if Jews were to limit their influence to Israel, even the Muslim World could learn to live with Israel as Jewish State. But if Zionism remains in 'neocon' imperialist mode, there will be more troubles ahead. It led to Iraq War, Libya disaster, hell in Syria, Russian involvement in Syria, and now more tensions about Iran.

    This is why America First is an essential agenda. As America is the global hegemon, there will be less globo-imperialism if US focuses on its own affairs than serving as (corrupt and bribed) policeman of the world. US as policeman would be more tolerable if it were a fair policeman. But US politicians and Deep State are whores of the ruling elites with their globo-Zionist agenda. And that ruins US reputation around the world as a fair enforcer of the peace and justice.

    ** People overlook the fact that Nazism’s main crime was not blood and soil. It was violating the blood-and-soil of OTHER peoples: Czechs, Poles, Russians, etc. **

    Your’s is a crucial point for people unenthusiastic about the E.U., supposedly created as a solution to “nationalism” but, in fact, an on-going project to create a totalitarian, leftist superstate, the cause of all the ills of the last century.

    The loathsome Peter Sutherland promotes “racism” as the cause of the world’s misery before WWII but he means nationalism, and a bastard version of it, if that. You can’t just love your country and your kinsmen but you must also necessarily have a desire for lebensraum and mass killing. It’s a pathetic lie but he and his friends have gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

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  219. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    In truth, of course, the routine practices of most Indian tribes in timeof war were far worse then the extremely few cases of something similar by US troops.
     
    Well the story is that "we" are better, no?

    So why not have the balls to admit that Western "civilization" is a farce and bloody joke?

    Are you saying that these things are just fine, or what?


    FAIK there is not a single case of US troops or even civilians taking captive Indians back to camp to leisurely torture them to death over several days.
     
    You cannot prove that. Do you think it's likely that anyone would've recorded it in any case? Anyway, setting aside the issue of Indians, but addressing the issue of torture, what have you to say about American treatment of Filipino freedom fighters who were betrayed by the USA and were subsequently subjected to torture including waterboarding? What have you to say about the sicko antics in Abu Ghraib? How about the treatment of chattel slaves in the US? Does that not count as torture in many cases? how about the use of napalm and WP against civilians?

    Bottom line, the US and Israel have been every bit as savage as anyone else, and whether anyone else engaged in such does not relive "us" of our guilt, but keep trying.

    Jacques your distorted hatred of your own kind is amazing.

    Perhaps Logan has in mind the story of the Jesuit captured by the Iroquois. They roasted him over a slow fire, dripped hot pine tar on his head, and cut off his lips. That was a public group project. Abu Ghraib was not and plainly against Army regulations.

    Your point that real horrors committed by your kinsmen would have been kept out of the records is laughable. As is your belief that the US military targeted civilians as civilians in Nam or later.

    You should take Isaac Bashevis Singer’s point to heart, Jacques: The world crawls with wickedness but it also has many wonders.

    The last part is key. Day in and day out, year after year, your people have done great things and shown much decency They do not live half in a cesspool. And never will build that perfect, flawless society that is your quest.

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