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“There has always been an abyss between Europeans and Semites, since the time when Tacitus complained about the odium generis humani.”
Heinrich von Treitschke, Ein Wort über unser Judenthum, 1879.

In 1989, the Jewish screenwriter and journalist Frederic Raphael was invited to deliver the 25th Anniversary Lecture at the University of Southampton’s Parkes Institute for the study of Jewish/non-Jewish relations. Founded by Rev Dr James Parkes (1896–1981), a neurotic Church of England minister who made a career out of the promotion of philo-Semitism in Christianity and the promotion of guilt narratives among Christians (in 1935 he was both celebrated by Jews and targeted for assassination by National Socialists), the Institute quickly became a hub for the production of scholarly-appearing pro-Jewish propaganda. Rather than offering objective analyses of Jewish/non-Jewish relations, the Institute furthered the familiar narrative that Jews were the blameless and catastrophic victims of an entirely irrational European hatred. Raphael, given the honor of addressing the 25th anniversary of this project, opted on the appointed evening to be a witty gadfly, choosing “The Necessity of Anti-Semitism” as the title of his address. It could be the title of a book, said Raphael, one that could sit in the Parkes Institute library but for the fact it had never been written, and did not exist.

In the meandering speech that followed, Raphael explored the putative contents of this imaginary book, suggesting its potential arguments, and what they might say about the author and about European culture. Confirming the opinions of everyone present, Raphael offered the assurance that although this ghostly and ghastly book did not exist, such a haunting product would not be out of place on a continent where anti-Semitism is “a constant and essential working part of Europe’s somber and unreformed logic.”[1]F. Raphael, The Necessity of Anti-Semitism (London: Carcanet, 1997), 49. For Raphael and his smug audience, “The Necessity of Anti-Semitism” lay only in its utility in salving the pathological European mind. Anti-Semitism was in fact extremely illogical and, in a moral sense, completely unnecessary.

Since reading Raphael’s speech several years ago, The Necessity of Anti-Semitism has, in a sense, haunted me too. As a single book, of course, it does not exist. But it perhaps has existed, after a fashion, in the thousands of tracts, pamphlets and books on the Jewish Question that have been written by Europeans over many centuries. In this collected body of anti-Semitic apologetics, one finds The Necessity of Anti-Semitism inflected in varying religious, political, and social hues. But what would the book look like if it was in fact written today? How could any author distill the various aspects of the Jewish Question into a single volume? In the essay that follows, part literary experiment, part historiography, I want us to join Raphael in imagining that this spectral book exists, even if our approach is rather different.

I imagine our author to introduce his volume with the broad case for The Necessity of Anti-Semitism, namely the presence of Jews and their influence in the four primary cultures of White decline: the Culture of Critique, the Culture of Tolerance, the Culture of Sterility, and the Culture of Usury.

The Culture of Critique

The section titled ‘Culture of Critique’ is a both a nod to the work of Kevin MacDonald, and an expansion upon the same. Setting out this section, our author might recall the notorious remark of the Jewish historian Louis Namier (1888–1960) when asked why he did not deal with Jewish history: “The Jews do not have a history, they have a martyrology.” It is this martyrology that lies at the heart of the Culture of Critique. Whereas almost every nation possesses a history that is in most respects objective, the Jews alone possess a mere quasi-history, riddled with mythic and esoteric self-deceptions that give psychological permission for the most clannish and subversive of social behaviors and the most hostile of attitudes towards other peoples. The Culture of Critique, a kind of cultural revenge inspired by the Jewish martyrology, is the clearest expression of the corrosive nature of the disastrous Jewish/non-Jewish relations so mourned by the woefully misguided Rev James Parkes.

In the Jewish mind, the corrosive nature of their interactions with European peoples has always taken on a heroic aspect. The ruse is played out, for themselves and us, that in these interactions we see a unique and virtuous questioning by ‘insiders/outsiders’ uniquely and helpfully placed to show Western culture its own flaws. Jews believe themselves to possess special talents in this respect, and maybe in a perverse sense they do, but in any case, in their great charade they break us down to “benefit” us. David Dresser and Lester Friedman, Jewish scholars of the media, maintain the position that Jewish filmmakers have a unique, untainted objectivity because of their Jewishness. They write that “Jewish artists’ marginality allows them a vantage point denied other, more culturally absorbed, creative thinkers.”[2]D. Dresser and L. Friedman, American Jewish Filmmakers (University of Illinois, 2004), 7. This compares remarkably well with a writer in the Times of Israel who, commenting on the activities of the Jewish politician Alan Shatter in destroying the legal supports of the family in Ireland, has argued that Shatter’s Jewishness “appeared to put him at an advantage, freeing him from the baggage that weighed on his Catholic counterparts.” Just like the Frankfurt School, these cultural heroes know us better than we know ourselves, which allows them to help us see that we are irrational and evil, bigoted and in need of Jewish redemption. We are constantly and warmly assured by our Jewish helpers that this process is undertaken for the West’s own good. They free us from our “baggage.”

In truth, this process is undertaken for our destruction. The Critique, having no coherent objectives beyond the will to decay, never ends. It never ceases the search for novel and unsullied corners of Western culture to drag through the mud. The ‘Rabbi’s Speech’ from Hermann Goedsche’s Biarritz (1868) is a work of fiction, but it drew on a multitude of facts and instincts. In the Jewish cemetery of Prague, Goedsche’s Rabbi addresses a secret nocturnal meeting of thirteen Jewish elders, promising they shall “extirpate all belief and faith in everything that our enemies the Christians have venerated up to the present and, using the allurements of the passions as our weapon, we shall declare open war on everything that people respect and venerate.”

The direction here is accurate, but Goedsche didn’t get everything right. There are no clandestine midnight meetings, no gatherings of Elders of Zion, but instead a shared instinct defending shared interests in a spirit of bitterness and, in reality, the Culture of Critique is not a declaration of open war, but the pursuance of war disguised as friendship, as medicine, as liberation. Boas tore down Western cultural confidence while claiming to set Westerners free from the errors and burdens of chauvinism. Freud perverted everything that was sacred about sex and marriage, and called it a cure. Marx called on the workers of the world to unite, and unite them he did — in the lines for food, in the gulags, and in the mass graves of a starved Ukraine. War has been noisily and bloodily waged, but it has been only silently and subversively declared.

And still they wage it, even if they’ve already toppled “everything that people respect and venerate.” The churches are infiltrated, vanquished, mocked and disdained. The history of Christianity has been put through the Jewish intellectual meat grinder, and emerges today only as a tale of persecutions and slavery. It is a shell, co-opted for endless tolerance. Even discounting religion, no notable Western historical figure has survived the Culture of Critique. And when our uniquely insightful Jewish helpers tired of toppling reputations, they used their ethnic proxies to start toppling statues, removing names, and burning portraits. No aspect of Western culture was to be left standing. Its science, philosophy and moral systems were mocked, derided, and savaged, with every sonnet, concerto, and technological innovation leading obscurely but somehow definitely to a World War II camp in Poland where to this day, we are earnestly told, no birds sing.

Except that I’ve visited what remains of this camp, and the birds do sing. There is no magic there. Time does not stand still. The children, forced to be there by their schools, laugh and scrawl graffiti on old bunks and doors, while adults, clearly worried that someone is watching them, do their best to appear solemn and moved rather than cold and bored.

Our author might concur, pointing out in The Necessity of Anti-Semitism that this particular camp is the jewel in the crown of the Jewish martyrology, and perhaps even the engine of the most advanced form of the Culture of Critique. Almost 55 years after it was written, Jerzy Kosiński’s The Painted Bird is now back in the news. It’s a memoir about his experiences around this same notorious wartime Polish camp, and it is replete with child-rape, bestiality, and pornographic depictions of violence including the feeding of a man’s eyes to pet cats. It’s also a long-exposed fraud, a fanciful pastiche of Kosiński’s own psychosexual fantasies. This hasn’t stopped it recently being made into a film that is being roundly applauded by critics, nor has the fact it has induced viewers to vomit, faint, and remove themselves from movie theaters. Perhaps, in the age of the Culture of Critique, many Whites have learned to love being told how evil they are towards Jews, taking each condemnation like a dose of welcome medicine. Joanna Siedlecka, a journalist and author of writers’ biographies, studied the life of Kosiński and concluded “[The Painted Bird] has nothing to do with Kosiński’s real childhood; he invented those horrors, while he himself experienced only good, while the villagers took the risk to hide his whole family. (…) Kosiński is still treated as a victim, even though we now know a lot more about his biography. We know Poles didn’t torment him.”

Our author might point out in The Necessity of Anti-Semitism that the example of Kosiński and the Poles is wholly commensurate to the historical relationship between Jews and Europeans. A biographer of these two peoples can attempt to show the reality of the situation, but the Jew “is still treated as a victim.” And this “victim” elevates himself to the position of moral arbiter and arch critic. Armed with their very own sadomasochistic historical pastiche, Jewish activists direct the Critique into action for what one assumes to be a Racial Endgame. They deny this, of course, and call it a wicked conspiracy theory. But in reality, they are like the proverbial Irishman who denies he stole the bucket, adding the indignant criticism that it had a hole in it anyway. The Jews vigorously deny any role in the decline of Western culture, adding indignantly that Western culture is rotten, sick, racist, bigoted, and irrational anyway. Their denial is a form of admission. This is the essence of the Culture of Critique.

The Culture of Tolerance

This section might open with the remark that the Culture of Tolerance is itself a child of the Culture of Critique. When did Jews first start calling for Whites to abolish themselves in their own lands? Our author might argue that they began right at the first Jewish entry into European culture — not European lands, but European culture. Isn’t it Moses Mendelssohn (1729–1786) who is often held up as the first “assimilated” Jew, the first real Jewish intellectual who wanted to be ‘part of German culture’ and who advocated for “tolerance”? Well, what did Mendelssohn, the first “German of the Jewish faith,” actually ask Europeans to do? That much is clear, and a matter of historical record. He impudently and impatiently asked, “For how long, for how many millennia, must this distinction between the owners of the land and the stranger continue? Would it not be better for mankind and culture to obliterate this distinction?”[3]M. Mendelssohn, “Anmerkung zu des Ritters Michaelis Beurtheilung des ersten Teils von Dohm, über die bürgerliche Verbesserung der Juden,” (1783), Moses Mendelssohn gesammelte Schriften, ed. G. B. Mendelssohn (Leipzig, 1843), vol. 3, 367. [emphasis added].

And there we have it — the very first Jewish intrusion into Western culture was accompanied by a call for the obliteration of borders and the migration and settlement rights of “the stranger.”

From the very beginning of Jewish activism in Western culture, it was in the interest of Jews to undermine the position of the owners of the land and to promote “tolerance.” It was Mendelssohn’s 1781 work, On the Civil Amelioration of the Condition of the Jews, that is said to have played a significant part in the rise of “tolerance” in Western culture. But tolerance, despite all the glowing propaganda, is a curious word. Place it in a medical context, and tolerance means “the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific toxin or other foreign substance which induces an immune response in the body, especially the production of antibodies.”

And isn’t this exactly what Mendelssohn prescribed almost two and half centuries ago— that the owners of the land should be “unresponsive,” suppressing all natural “immune responses” even in the face of intruding toxins? We have to ask ourselves how tolerance ever became regarded as a virtue. The answer is that it became a virtue in the context of the Jewish intrusion into Western culture.

The Culture of Tolerance is now more than two centuries old. It matured slowly, but there can be little doubt that it has now come of age. Kevin MacDonald’s work has conclusively demonstrated that Jewish groups organized, funded and performed most of the work aimed at combating America’s 1924 immigration law, toppling it finally in 1965. Brenton Sanderson has shown that Jewish intellectual movements and ethno-political activism were pivotal in ending the White Australia policy — a policy change opposed by the vast majority of the Australian population. I have written on how Jews were conspicuous in the dramatic changes in Britain’s citizenship, race, and speech laws from the 1950s to the 1980s. A Jewish Minister for Justice transformed Ireland’s citizenship process, opening the country up to Africans and Pakistanis. Today, Jews dominate the mass migration NGO scene, demonstrably holding executive roles at the International Rescue Committee, International Refugee Assistance Project, the Immigrant’s Rights division of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), National Immigration Justice Center, Equal Justice Works, The Immigrant Defense Project, National Immigration Law Center, Lawyer’s Committee for Civil Rights Under the Law, Northwest Immigrants Rights Project, the Asylum Advocacy Project, Refugee Council USA, the New York Civil Liberties Union, American Immigration Council, The Immigrant Learning Center, the Open Avenues Foundation, the Political Asylum/Immigration Representation (PAIR) Project, Central American Legal Assistance, Halifax Refugee Clinic, and the UK Refugee Law Initiative. The migration policy advisor for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is not a Catholic, but a Jewish woman.

Third World mass migration into Europe and the West is a Jewish project. It has been curated by Jews, promoted by Jews, explained and excused by Jews. It is driven by a Jewish need, as old as Mendelssohn’s tract and perhaps older, to dispossess the owners of the land and open up that land to the stranger in the name of tolerance.

Much like the Culture of Critique, Jews offer us the Culture of Tolerance in the guise of friendship. With broad grins and mellifluous tones, they assure us that we are doomed if we don’t obliterate “the distinction between owners of the land and the stranger.” After all, haven’t we been helpfully informed that our own culture is worthless, bigoted, illusory, tainted, and morally bankrupt? Why not import an array of new, vibrant cultures? That way we can experience a more exciting life and, what’s more, it would go some way to proving ourselves morally acceptable to our Jewish friends, the innocent martyrs of humanity. And we should listen to them primarily because their advice makes perfect sense. After all, we need unemployable Africans to fund our pensions, Islamic terrorists to care for our ageing populations, and millions more people in our countries in order to solve our housing crises. We need floods of cheap labor to increase our wages. We need poorly trained foreign sex criminals to staff our hospitals, perform our surgeries, and nurse us back to health. We need to tolerate the burqa to demonstrate how profoundly feminist we’ve become as a society. We need to express our patriotism by denying we exist as a people. We need more speech-gagging laws to ensure freedom. And, most importantly of all, we need to become a less racist society by eliminating Whites everywhere.

Our helpful friends deliver these messages to us in a number of ways. When they are feeling generous, they simply bombard us with screen garbage, portraying multiculturalism on film in a manner entirely divergent from the way it plays out in reality. Jewish cinematic magic is a form of cultural alchemy. Take Black crime and low academic achievement, dip it in Hollywood, and muggers and rapists are transformed into educated Black “love interests” fawned over by nubile blondes. Or, take the stability and tranquility of the White middle-class family, dip it in Hollywood, and what now emerges is a claustrophobic den of neuroticism, control and bigotry.

When our Jewish friends are feeling less generous, they force their way into your child’s school curriculum, and when they are angered they remove your right to free speech and imprison you. On the other hand, if you try to impede Jewish particularism by, for example, banning one of their tribal rites such as circumcision, the lesson of the ADL’s threats to the sovereign nation of Iceland shows that blackmail, slander, and unrelenting economic warfare are equally deployable tools in their armory. In this example, of course, we’re back to the Irishman and the bucket. The Jews deny they have outsized influence, adding that if you make that accusation again, their little club in New York will bring your entire country to its knees.

While the Culture of Tolerance is in full swing, one lingering problem is that White babies, for now, keep coming. Here our author might begin the third section of his book.

The Culture of Sterility

Jews are everywhere in the Culture of Sterility, an appropriate term for what the world’s leading scholars have described as the “rapid increase” in “levels of childlessness in most European countries.”[4]M. Kreyenfeld Childlessness in Europe: Contexts, Causes, and Consequences (Cham: SpringerOpen, 2017), v. Our author could start with the fact the oral contraceptive was invented by the Jew Gregory Goodwin Pincus, but really Jews have everywhere in the West been, to use the Jewish historian Howard Sachar’s own words, “pioneers in the underground contraceptives industry.”[5]Cited in T. Russell, A Renegade History of the United States (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2010). By plan, co-ordination, or raw instinct, Jews have accumulated in those areas toxic to the White birth rate — contraception, abortion, divorce laws, and the promotion of pornography, homosexuality, gender confusion, and promiscuity.

The pioneers of abortion clinics, birth control literature for couples, and birth control policy measures in America were, according to one scholar, “Anna Samuelson in the Bronx; Olga Ginzburg and Rachelle Yarros in Chicago; Sarah Marcus in Cleveland; Nadine Kavinoky and Rochelle Seletz in Los Angeles; Esther Cohen and Golda Nobel in Philadelphia; Hannah Stone, Marie Warner, Cheri Appel, Anna Spielgeman, Naomi Yarmolinsky, Bessie Moses in Baltimore, Elizabeth Kleinman in Boston, and Lena Levine in New York, Hannah Seitzwick-Robbins in Trenton, and Lucile Lord-Heinstein in Massachusetts.”[6]M. R. Klapper Ballots, Babies, and Banners of Peace: American Jewish Women’s Activism, 1890-1940 (New York: New York University Press, 2013), 151. All of these women were Jews. Stone was particularly influential, working closely with Sanger and producing key birth control texts like Contraceptive Methods of Choice (1926), Therapeutic Contraception (1928), Contraception and Mental Hygiene (1933), and Birth Control: A Practical Survey (1937).

In the 1920s and 1930s, the primary lawyer for Margaret Sanger, the non-Jewish public face of the pro-abortion and birth-control movement in New York, was the Jew Morris Ernst. And when Sanger decided to move for Federal birth control legislation, she wrote to Rabbi Stephen Wise in 1931 asking him to use Jewish political influence and his own extensive list of political contacts to help make it happen, a request he happily obliged.[7]Ibid, 159.
(M. R. Klapper Ballots, Babies, and Banners of Peace: American Jewish Women’s Activism, 1890-1940 (New York: New York University Press, 2013), 151.)
Of course, Sanger had married a Jew, and according to one biographer “surrounded herself with Jewish colleagues and friends.”[8]E. Chesler Woman of Valor: Margaret Sanger and the Birth Control Movement in America (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2007), 51.

In fact, Jewish influence is so tightly bound up with the origins of abortion in America that historian Daniel K. Williams has characterized the abortion debate of the 1930s as a “religious conflict because nearly all the doctors speaking out against abortion were Catholic while the most vocal proponents of abortion legalization were Jewish.”[9]D. K. Williams Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement Before Roe v Wade (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016), 27. Williams adds the fact “Reform Jewish rabbis also became early leaders in the abortion law liberalisation movement.”[10]Ibid, 66.
(D. K. Williams Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement Before Roe v Wade (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016), 27.)
The link between Jewish organizations and the more sordid (and often Jewish-dominated) corners of the medical profession came into stark relief during investigations into illegal abortions in the 1940s and 1950s, when the crossover was such that, according to historian Leslie J. Reagan, local authorities in New York, found “pro-birth control and Jewish organisations of particular interest.”[11]L. J. Reagan When Abortion Was a Crime: Women, Medicine, and Law in the United States, 1867-1973 (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1997), 173. By the time Pincus developed the Pill, he was sufficiently aware of the potential for birth control and Jewish activism to be linked in the popular mind that he deliberately selected John Rock, a Catholic, rather than Abraham Stone and Alan Guttmacher, long-term colleagues and leaders of the birth control movement, to develop a contraceptive regimen in women, in order to avoid “anti-Semitic stigma.”[12]J. Reed The Birth Control Movement and American Society (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1984), 351.

The same pattern has been repeated in every other Western nation. Alan Shatter may have acted as chief propagandist for birth control legislation in Ireland in the 1970s, but even a century before Shatter’s actions a member of the Irish clergy reported:

There arrived in town a Jew with a lorry [ … ] and he started selling contraceptives made up as pencil holders . … Someone told the parish priest about the traffic . … He notified the police who could do nothing. He then set up a court of his own and tried him and fined him £10. The Jew paid £10 and cleared out.[13]M. P. Leone Atlantic Crossings in the Wake of Frederick Douglass (Leiden: Brill, 2017), 111.

In New York, Jews like Moses Jacobi and Morris Glattstine were particularly influential and conspicuous in the sale of illicit contraceptives and in the underground abortion scene as early as the 1870s.[14]J. F. Brodie Contraception and Abortion in Nineteenth-century America (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1994), 234. Similarly, during the late nineteenth century, “Jews were among the leaders of the revolution in birth control in southern Germany.”[15]A. C. Crombie (ed) History of Science (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1990), 371. In interwar Germany, according to scholar Harriet Freidenreich, “Jewish women physicians played a very prominent role in the campaign to legalise abortion. … Jewish women physicians were disproportionately involved in the sex reform movement that promoted more widespread availability of birth control. They were very visible in the dissemination of contraceptive devices.”[16]H. P. Freidenreich Female, Jewish, and Educated: The Lives of Central European University Women (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 2002), 154.

In the Polish Second Republic, the central pioneer of sexual education, contraception, the promotion of homosexuality, and abortion was Irena Krzywicka (née Goldberg). As well as founding Liga Reformy Obyczajów (The League to Reform Mores), Krzywicka wrote for the influential journal Wiadomosci literackie (Literary News) where she argued the case for civil unions, easy divorce, easily accessible contraception, female “sexual liberation,” and abortion.[17]Y. Hashamova (ed) Transgressive Women in Modern Russian and East European Cultures: From the Bad to the Blasphemous (New York: Routledge, 2017), 16. In his Antisemitism and Its Opponents in Modern Poland, historian Robert Blobaum points out that the “anti-Semitic press” in Poland made the link between Jews and “the spread of birth control literature” as well as pornography, but is notably shy of discussing Krzywicka’s career or that of her many Jewish colleagues.[18]R. Blobaum, Antisemitism and Its Opponents in Modern Poland (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2005), 87. Ronald Modras notes that even the Polish birth control movement’s non-Jewish leaders stood out for their “philosemitism.”[19]R. Modras The Catholic Church and Antisemitism: Poland, 1933-39 (New York: Routledge, 2004), 62.

In France, the main body behind the legalization of contraception and abortion was Choisir (To Choose), founded by the Jewish lawyer Gisèle Halimi, and the relevant legislation was finally passed by the Jewish Minister of Health Simone Veil (born Simone Jacob).[20]N. Las Jewish Voices in Feminism: Transnational Perspectives (Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 2015), 91. In the United States, of course, Roe v. Wade was effectively the product of activism by the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws, founded by the Jew Bernard Nathanson. Nathanson worked closely on abortion legislation activism with Jewish feminist Betty Friedan, until he experienced an apparently legitimate crisis of conscience in the late 1970s and subsequently converted to Catholicism. By that date, he had personally performed more than 60,000 abortions, later explaining in an interview: “We fed a line of deceit, of dishonesty, of fabrication of statistics and figures; we coddled, caressed, and stroked the press. … We were calling ourselves pro-abortionists and pro-choice. In fact we were abortifiers: those who like abortion.” And Jews certainly like abortion. According to Pew data, Jews have a higher rate of support for abortion than any other religious group in America. In fact, Jews enjoy limiting the fertility of other populations so much that in 2013 Israel admitted giving birth control to incoming Ethiopian migrants without their consent.

Our author might linger on the subject of birth control and abortion only because the prevalence of Jews in other areas of the Culture of Sterility is now so well-documented. Jewish involvement in early sexology, through influential figures like Albert Moll, Iwan Bloch, Magnus Hirschfeld, Albert Eulenberg, Hermann Joseph Lowenstein, Julius Wolf, Max Marcuse, and Eduard Bernstein, was universally concerned with the need for “tolerance” and social pluralism. What they in fact promoted were pathological sexual aberrations, distant from reproduction and toxic to social cohesion. Hirschfeld, probably the originator of “Love is Love” propaganda, had “subverted the notion that romantic love should be orientated toward reproduction,” arguing instead for the acceptance of homosexual lifestyles and hedonistic, non-reproductive, sexual relations in general.[21]E.R. Dickson, Sex, Freedom and Power in Imperial Germany, 1880-1914 (Cambridge University Press, 2014), 7.

Here it is worth stressing that Jews have not accumulated in the promotion of “tolerance” for homosexuals, gender-benders, abortion-seekers, and transvestites because they genuinely believe in the “rights” or “worth” of these people. Rather, Jews see in these people traits that it wishes to promote in the population at large and recruit them to the Culture of Tolerance. Society never really accepted homosexuality and transgenderism, but rather society itself first became ‘homosexual’ in its traits before it could tolerate actual homosexuals and transgenders. As the West became progressively more childless, promiscuous, hedonistic, and brimming with delusional self-confidence, the differences between the normal and the abnormal narrowed, and there appeared fewer reasons to continue to deny ‘equality.’ Societies with demographic concerns will have harsh penalties for both homosexuality and abortion/infanticide. The West, celebrating both, is in demographic free fall but, ignorant of the profound implications of this racial death, its people are actually in the process of indulging a culture cultivated for their demographic assassination. Homosexuality has never been more tolerated. Abortion has never been easier and less stigmatized. And Whites have never been closer to leaving the stage of history.

Promiscuity has replaced the pushchair. A glance at the modern generation of Whites of child-bearing age is sobering. Rates of sexually transmitted disease in America have never been higher. According to senior physicians, the U.K. is heading for a “sexual health crisis.” The same phenomenon has been reported in Australia, Canada, Ireland, France, and Germany. Meanwhile, the Gatestone Institute reports that: “Abortion has recently assumed epic proportions in countries such as Sweden or France. In France, there are 200,000 abortions a year. To put things in perspective, there are in France around 750,000 births a year. France, therefore, is aborting 20% of its babies/fetuses/embryos/cell clusters — choose according to your personal convictions — each year.” You can be sure it isn’t French Muslims who are aborting their babies by the hundred thousand, and this perhaps explains why they’ve been telling the Archbishop of Strasbourg that “France will be theirs one day.”

In The Population Bomb (1968), the Jewish biologist Paul Ehrlich wrote that the best method to reduce population is the legalization of abortion. That was without considering the effect of birth control or the broader Culture of Sterility that glorifies perverted, empty, childless visions of “love.” When Europeans began to legalize both birth control and abortion 40 years ago, a few years after Roe vs. Wade (1973), the Catholic Church warned of the risk of Europe entering into a “morbid civilization.” This is what we now inhabit.

The Culture of Usury

In a West gone wildly materialistic, it can be difficult to see the extent of Jewish usury. When you mention Jewish moneylenders to most people, the response normally relates to the Middle Ages. But Jewish usury is alive and well in modernity, and entire countries are in debt to Jewish financiers, who then pass on some of their wealth to Jewish organizations dedicated to the promotion of the three other cultures of White decline (Critique, Tolerance, Sterility). Paul Singer, of the Jewish “investment fund” has been described by Bloomberg as “The World’s Most Feared Investor,” but really he’s the world’s most feared exploiter of debt. The Democratic Republic of Congo owes Singer and his Jewish colleagues $90 million, Panama owes him $57 million, Peru owes him $58 million, and Argentina owes him $1.5 billion. When payments have been late, Singer seized and detained the flagship of the Argentinian Navy, and when South Korea put up a fight to prevent him getting control of Samsung, he drove the nation’s President to impeachment and imprisonment.

While these activities may appear very high-level, and distant from the reality of day-to-day life (unless you are a citizen of the Congo and Singer is blackmailing you for payment by withholding essential work on your water supply), Singer and his Jewish financial clique have a hand in almost every purchase you make, and every war your country wages. Singer, his son Gordin, and their colleagues Zion Shohet, Jesse Cohn, Stephen Taub, Elliot Greenberg and Richard Zabel, have a foothold in almost every country, and have a stake in every company you’re likely to be familiar with, from book stores to dollar stores. With the profits of exploitation, they fund the Culture of Sterility, boost Zionist politics, invest millions in security for Jews, and promote wars for Israel. Singer is a Republican, and is on the Board of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He is a former board member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, has funded neoconservative research groups like the Middle East Media Research Institute and the Center for Security Policy, and is among the largest funders of the neoconservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He was also connected to the pro-Iraq War advocacy group Freedom’s Watch. Another key Singer project was the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI), a Washington D.C.-based advocacy group that was founded in 2009 by several high-profile Jewish neoconservative figures to promote militaristic U.S. policies in the Middle East on behalf of Israel and which received its seed money from Singer.

Although Singer was initially anti-Trump, and although Trump once attacked Singer for his pro-immigration politics (“Paul Singer represents amnesty and he represents illegal immigration pouring into the country”), Trump is now essentially funded by three Jews—Singer, Bernard Marcus, and Sheldon Adelson, together accounting for over $250 million in pro-Trump political money. In return, they want war with Iran. Employees of Singer’s firm, Elliott Management, were one of the main sources of funding for the 2014 candidacy of the Senate’s most outspoken Iran hawk, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR), who urged Trump to conduct a “retaliatory strike” against Iran for purportedly attacking two commercial tankers. These exploitative Jewish financiers have been clear that they expect a war with Iran, and they are lobbying hard and preparing to call in their pound of flesh. As one political commentator put it, “These donors have made their policy preferences on Iran plainly known. They surely expect a return on their investment in Trump’s GOP.” When Adelson and Singer first made overtures to Marco Rubio, Trump tweeted that Rubio would be their “puppet.” Trump has now taken money from the same puppetmasters, but has thus far refused to go “all the way” with their demands, even firing John Bolton, a favorite of the Jewish triad. How the latter will proceed in the face of Trump’s defiance on the matter remains to be seen.

The Intersection of the Culture of Usury and the Culture of Zio-Wars: Paul Singer, Bernard Marcus, and Sheldon Adelson
The Intersection of the Culture of Usury and the Culture of Zio-Wars: Paul Singer, Bernard Marcus, and Sheldon Adelson

The Jewish triad behind Trump is a perfect example of the role of Jewish finance and the Culture of Usury in sustaining and advancing Jewish power and influence in contemporary society. Singer embodies usury and vulture capitalism, while Bernard “Home Depot” Marcus is symptomatic of bloated consumerism, and Adelson represents the sordid commercial exploitation of vice (gambling). There is nothing productive in the economic activity of any of these figures, their vast accumulations arising from sociopathic parasitism, ethnic nepotism, and the will to cultural decay.

We feel this decay lower down the scale, since we live in a society of conspicuous consumption, funded by ever-escalating household debt. Everywhere, people buy things they don’t need with money they don’t have. Household debt is rising yet again in the United States. According to the New York Federal Reserve, Americans owe $13.86 trillion in household debt, slightly higher than the total amount right before the 2008 financial crisis. In Australia, the household debt to income ratio is above 190%, among the highest in the developed world. The same situation is seen in the U.K. Jews, of course, were involved disproportionately in the development of department stores, the fashion industry, retailing business, and other aspects of the consumer society.[22]G. Reuveni, Consumer Culture and the Making of Modern Jewish Identity (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2017), xiii. Jews in late nineteenth-century Germany, as they did in several other Western countries, initiated the “consumer revolution,” and “held, or at least started, the overwhelming majority of department stores and clothing and fashion houses throughout the country.”[23]P. Lerner, The Consuming Temple: Jews, Department Stores, and the Consumer Revolution in Germany, 1880-1940 (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2015), 5. Werner Sombart remarked at the time that department stores were the herald of a new, degenerative economic culture, typified by “the anonymous, objectifying forces of capitalism and marketing.” Contemporary anti-Semites saw these centers of the economic culture as “a consuming temple in two senses, as both a temple of consumption and a temple that consumes — that is, a place of destruction, a Moloch even, that greedily devours vulnerable customers and neighbouring businesses.”[24] Ibid, 9.
(P. Lerner, The Consuming Temple: Jews, Department Stores, and the Consumer Revolution in Germany, 1880-1940 (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2015), 5.)

Today, largely worthless “branded” consumer products are overwhelmingly Jewish, are promoted via Jewish dominance of the advertising industry, and their purchase by consumers is funded by Jewish financiers. Calvin Klein, Levi Strauss, Ralph Lauren, Michael Kors, Kenneth Cole, Max Factor, Estée Lauder, and Marc Jacobs are just some of the Jews whose very names have become synonymous with debt-fueled consumer culture and the subscribing to carefully cultivated fashion fads, while Jewish-owned companies like Starbucks, Macy’s, the Gap, American Apparel, Costco, Staples, Home Depot, Ben & Jerry’s, Timberland, Snapple, Häagen-Dazs, Dunkin’ Donuts, Monster Beverages, Mattel, and Toys “R” Us have come to epitomize the endless and superfluous production of garbage for mass consumption on credit.

The consuming temple of debt-fueled consumerism is also linked to the cultures of Critique, Tolerance, and Sterility. So-called anti-racism, support for gender confusion, and the celebration of mass migration and multiculturalism have become mainstays of modern advertising as the Racial Endgame nears its conclusion and the West commences its death rattle.

You might ask what tortilla chips have to do with sodomy, but that’s only because you’re suffering from a tolerance deficiency, and the best way to correct that is to admit White privilege, buy a Starbucks, and go try on a new pair of $200 jeans at Macy’s.

Conclusion

Critique, Tolerance, Sterility and Usury have converged. This is the necessity of anti-Semitism. As much as The Necessity of Anti-Semitism has haunted me, so too has the image of Goedsche’s Rabbi addressing the graveyard meeting of thirteen elders. It haunts me because it appears so antiquated and naive, as if the situation could ever have been so simple. The reality has always been much more profound, and infinitely more dangerous. The Jewish Question, such as it might exist for Jews, has always amounted to “Is it good for the Jews?” For Whites, it should always have been “Are the Jews good for us?” An answer might be found in their accumulation in their four aspects of White decline. Our opposition to this accumulation and its associated activities is perfectly logical, and morally necessary.

Notes

[1] F. Raphael, The Necessity of Anti-Semitism (London: Carcanet, 1997), 49.

[2] D. Dresser and L. Friedman, American Jewish Filmmakers (University of Illinois, 2004), 7.

[3] M. Mendelssohn, “Anmerkung zu des Ritters Michaelis Beurtheilung des ersten Teils von Dohm, über die bürgerliche Verbesserung der Juden,” (1783), Moses Mendelssohn gesammelte Schriften, ed. G. B. Mendelssohn (Leipzig, 1843), vol. 3, 367.

[4] M. Kreyenfeld Childlessness in Europe: Contexts, Causes, and Consequences (Cham: SpringerOpen, 2017), v.

[5] Cited in T. Russell, A Renegade History of the United States (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2010).

[6] M. R. Klapper Ballots, Babies, and Banners of Peace: American Jewish Women’s Activism, 1890-1940 (New York: New York University Press, 2013), 151.

[7] Ibid, 159.

[8] E. Chesler Woman of Valor: Margaret Sanger and the Birth Control Movement in America (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2007), 51.

[9] D. K. Williams Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement Before Roe v Wade (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016), 27.

[10] Ibid, 66.

[11] L. J. Reagan When Abortion Was a Crime: Women, Medicine, and Law in the United States, 1867-1973 (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1997), 173.

[12] J. Reed The Birth Control Movement and American Society (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1984), 351.

[13] M. P. Leone Atlantic Crossings in the Wake of Frederick Douglass (Leiden: Brill, 2017), 111.

[14] J. F. Brodie Contraception and Abortion in Nineteenth-century America (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1994), 234.

[15] A. C. Crombie (ed) History of Science (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1990), 371.

[16] H. P. Freidenreich Female, Jewish, and Educated: The Lives of Central European University Women (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 2002), 154.

[17] Y. Hashamova (ed) Transgressive Women in Modern Russian and East European Cultures: From the Bad to the Blasphemous (New York: Routledge, 2017), 16.

[18] R. Blobaum, Antisemitism and Its Opponents in Modern Poland (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2005), 87.

[19] R. Modras The Catholic Church and Antisemitism: Poland, 1933-39 (New York: Routledge, 2004), 62.

[20] N. Las Jewish Voices in Feminism: Transnational Perspectives (Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 2015), 91.

[21] E.R. Dickson, Sex, Freedom and Power in Imperial Germany, 1880-1914 (Cambridge University Press, 2014), 7.

[22] G. Reuveni, Consumer Culture and the Making of Modern Jewish Identity (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2017), xiii.

[23] P. Lerner, The Consuming Temple: Jews, Department Stores, and the Consumer Revolution in Germany, 1880-1940 (Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2015), 5.

[24] Ibid, 9.

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  1. Jewish involvement in early sexology, through influential figures like Albert Moll, Iwan Bloch, Magnus Hirschfeld, Albert Eulenberg, Hermann Joseph Lowenstein, Julius Wolf, Max Marcuse, and Eduard Bernstein, was universally concerned with the need for “tolerance” and social pluralism.

    Sigh. Not this again. Plenty of unambiguously white men promoted sexual freedom from the Enlightenment through the early 20th Century, from Voltaire to Percy Shelley to H.G. Wells to Bertrand Russell. Jews didn’t invent this project, though they joined it as it became mainstream and repurposed sexual freedom towards their goals.

  2. Blake says:

    Ashkenaz – over 80% of modern day Jewry – are Europeans, not Semites.

  3. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:

    the problem with culture of jewish critique is its lying and grandiose nature, claiming to have solved ancient issues and being based on lies. But all critiques fall under this. however due to Jewish domination questioning and criticizing jewish critiques is impossible.

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    Tolerance isn’t uniquely Jewish, but the benefit Jews (perpetual outsiders) gain from it is a reason for their prediliction to xenophilia and why the elites constantly promote it. it is also a part of global materialism/usury capitalist system, drive human value down while expanding global markets.

    the problem with the culture of sterility in this essay is that iy deliberately seeks to make it jewish, deliberately ignoring the many non-jewish campaign for birth control and the main advocates of it throughout history who have been horny teenagers. there is nothing wrong with family planning and the world is overpopulated, the problem was that jewish dominated discourse is focused on guilt narratives instead of actual reduction of population via common sense birth control and abortion and shutting down immigration or vastly limiting it. the catholic church and christianity also promote sterility, how many europeans did nit reproduce because of being nuns or monks? Christianity is also not a natalist religion, as abstinence is held up as the ideal. it is the old testament that says to be fruitful, but it is the new testament that upholds being a martyr and celibate.

    this essay would have been better if it focused on the matyrology and guilt-ness of jewish discourse. it is that guilt-ness that has perpetuated negative development from premises that should have created positive developments. acknowledging how awful the anglo-zion empire is should promote and end to predatory international monetary fund policies and bring an end to such horrible predatory practices such as those comitted by Paul Singer, but instead we get milk-toast college orientation programs that promote guilt, xenophilia and silence about critiquing foreign cultures on the same standard as western culture. Paul Singer and the other predators cobtinue to enjoy millions and the world keeps permitting and upholding such sociopathic greed as given and maybe even a good thing.

    Usury is greed and the anglo-zionist emphasis on private property is a symptom of the the reaosn why the anglo-zionist alliance first formed, compatible greediness.
    Americans will chimp out about sharing anything but they don’t do shit about the police asset seizure and forfeiture laws that screw over the poor. Americans are not in love with property rights they are in love with property.
    The anti-communist sentence about Marx uniting proletarians does not need to be there and doesn’t add anything, it is just reflexive anti-communism that anglo-zionist can never be cured if. I am not saying Marx had all the answers or the Soviet Union was paradise, but the worlds Mao and Stalin built were considerably far less Jewish than anything in the “free world” at the time and certainly the “free world” today.

    which leads to my conclusion. the only hope is that Russia nukes the U.S with hypsersonic missiles before the U.S develops hypersonic missiles before the U.S does and passes them onto Israel. Or someone invents a pill that instantly raises IQ and empathy and feeds it to the American people, but honestly many peoples would benefit from it. it is just americans who are most dangerous to the world and need it.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    , @sally
  4. Sparky says:

    Someone said “To defend Jewish power is a crime against humanity.” What do you think??

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Richard B
  5. On the other hand, if you try to impede Jewish particularism by, for example, banning one of their tribal rites such as circumcision, the lesson of the ADL’s threats to the sovereign nation of Iceland shows that blackmail, slander, and unrelenting economic warfare are equally deployable tools in their armory.

    This heavy-handed maneuvering, including explicit or implied threats, as well as legal challenges or lobbying, to block proposed legislative bans with regard to such elective cosmetic surgery being performed on infants, has not just occurred in Iceland (2018) but in numerous other jurisdictions years before.

    For instance, an initiative in San Francisco that was cleared for their November 2011 ballot, which would have required voluntary consent by a person over 18 years to have his foreskin amputated, was subsequently withdrawn by a judge, at the behest of the ADL, among others. A state law was ultimately signed by the governor to prevent such ballot measures in the future.

    Details here:
    https://ballotpedia.org/San_Francisco_Circumcision_Ban_(November_2011)

    In 2012 this form of genital mutilation was a big issue in some European countries too.

    Wikipedia – legal aspects of male genital mutilation
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_and_law

    The hypocrisy regarding different treatment for male and female is illuminating; in July 2013 the N.Y.Times featured an opinion editorial that urged: Taking Female Circumcision out of Existence

  6. All we need is transparency. Conspiratorial Jews are a minority; even many of their co-religionists would abandon them if they knew the truth of their machinations. That’s easier said than done however in an environment where criticism is equated with hatred.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  7. @Anonymous

    Stalinism is what happens when the golem (Marxism) turns on its maker.

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    , @Nonny
  8. I don’t think tendentious and unbalanced analyses like this really help anything.

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    , @JohnnyD
    , @Colin Wright
  9. @Fidelios Automata

    I am a Halachic Jew and a commenter on a once popular anti-Jewish site, and I can assure that no one in the commune to which the author of this piece belongs is interested in a transparent talk. These people feed on each other’s hate.

    I suggested to them more than once to help them understand the Jews and the Jewish thinking, I promised to answer whatever question being as honest as I can be. I offered them to get an insight into the most obscure corners of Judaism, which I know well.

    Trust me – no one wants to know a thing.

    The people in this commune of bottom-feeders are not interested in understanding what is going on. No one is asking questions. All I get in response is allegations of being a liar and insults. Their emotional and mental condition is disturbing me.

    No one wants to know a thing.

  10. vasil says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    lol
    80% of the american jews support israel genocidal policies that tell you everything about the incredible double standard jews have.

  11. jING says:
    @silviosilver

    Agreed. I think the passion Joyce expresses betrays him. There is something deeply psychologically wrong with him. I’d love to hear different – I’d love to hear from a right-wing Jew whom Joyce has been able to bring himself to deal with in a neutral or positive way, or of course even more unlikely, befriend. But you can tell it just isn’t there. This is much too personal for Joyce; and that indicates pathology.

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    , @Pheasant
    , @Avis
  12. Truth3 says:

    Your Daily “Is It Good For The Jews” Moment… Remembering Rachel Corrie

    You may now return to your scheduled programming.

    • Replies: @Lot
  13. Shlomo says:

    The ethnic Jew is the antithesis of all civilization. Until the Chinese eliminate the source, Satan will continue to possess his Khazar minions

    • Replies: @Gerald Goldberg
  14. Lot says:
    @The Dark Night

    Ultimately Joyce is an eloquent dunce. He writes article after article about a group of people, but you’ll never find in them any type of science or demographic statistics. Just lots of anecdotes, argument from (not very good) authority, and never the slightest hint he’s concerned with confirmation bias.

    He reminds me a lot of his hero MacDonald, another failed academic who makes sure people always stick a “Dr.” before his name. MacDonald at least got tenure at an 80% black/hispanic Jr College. Joyce I bet didn’t even get that far. Sad.

  15. Lot says:
    @Truth3

    Your daily dose of high European Jewish art.

    Gustav Klimt

    [MORE]

  16. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    The middle picture is good but the first and second are truly awful. They are rough drawings that should be capturing the soul of the subject but they have no soul.

    What a drawing with that rough, unfinished look should look like:

    Because of the lack of modern painting techniques most medieval paintings also have that look to them, but they are better:

    • Replies: @Lot
  17. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Dark Night

    I dislike Joyce and his ilk of nationalism which is mostly anglo-zionist and focused on the made up identity of white, due to Americans being the descendants of europeans who cast their blood and soil ties away for money, something inherently treasonous and not nationalistic. their nationalism defends imperialism when imperialism is antithetical to nationalism.

    [MORE]

    But my beef with Jews is that their religion to its core is jewish supremacist. not even a boastful benign supremacism that is common to most people’s but a supremacism that extols dominating other people and living off their labor. the jewish supremacists doesn’t say “we do it bests” they say “one set of rules for Jews another for gentiles. We deserve to rule over all. Let the gentiles work and we consume.”

    this is readily documented in Israel Shahak’s books. The old testament is a work of malignant jewish supremacism where yahweh sanctions war crimes and theft against gentiles and the promises of yahweh and not transcedental and religious but material wealth.

    The scholars of the jewish religion say gentiles are meant to serve jews and claim on jews have a soul with the more ashamed ones claiming that jews only have superior souls as opposed to being the only people with souls.

    Usury is banned in the old testament but it is practiced on gentiles and even on the old testament there are tales of prophets telling jews to not practice usury against Jews, because usury was so tempting to jews even if the victims were other jews.

    despite this ban how many observant Jews work in banking? maybe they refrain from usury on their community but not certainly the public at large.

    the main antagonism between judaism and other cultures is its malignant supremacism. Somethibg found in abrahamic religions but partially tempered in certain sects of christianity. Abrahamic malignant supremacism and arrogance has been a disaster upon this earth. I beseech you to abandon your religion and seek rigorous and well informed answers to questions of the afterlife and view yourself as a fellow human instead of a member of an elect community chosen to charge rent on the rest of humanity for the mere act of existing.

  18. Lot says:
    @Anon

    You like his style or you don’t. He’s never been out of style since he was still young however. Taking a disused old technique and applying it to pretty young women rather than old bearded saints was a great idea.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  19. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    disused old technique

    ???

    Okay, that pretty much shows who it is I’m talking to.

    Taste is taste, and de gustibus etc., but do you really think this is “high art”?

    [MORE]

    It’s not even the highest European Jewish art. Here is Marc Chagall:

    Demeaning, at least as a portrait of one’s own parents, but not vapid like the Klimt gilded erotica.

  20. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    You know who else has never been out of style?

    So that’s the daily dose of high American art, I guess. It has at least the merit of being incomprehensible.

    A recommendation: if weird, vaguely effeminate erotica really is your thing you may find Aubrey Beardsley also worth looking into.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  21. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Also, what’s your source for Klimt being Jewish?

    Should the tag be Your daily dose of ok-ish European Gentile art?

  22. @Fidelios Automata

    Although I used my hourly ‘Agree’, it should be pointed out that the term ‘co-religionists’ is a tad inaccurate. I would go so far as to split world Jewry into at least four distinct segments –
    1. Ultra-Orthodox – usually dumb-as-fuck Osteuropaische-spawn who read the Old Nonsense and view it as a How-To, rather than a depraved fairy tale;

    2. Nerf-Jews – they wear a different type of silly hat, no tzitzit, and don’t tie a box to their heads and rock like a mental patient, but are still fairly comfortable with killing Palestinians and stealing their land (and some of them believe in the invisible sky maniac);

    3. (Almost-)Atheists – basically call themselves Jewish, but do fuck-all (except genitally mutilating their male offspring, and doing Peschach, Purim, and Bar Mitzvah);

    4. Actual atheists, who do none of the above, and call themselves Jewish because (a) some ancestor in a hovel somewhere actually believed in bits of the Old Nonsense, and/or (b) their parents and grandparents would feel miffed if Junior renounced the whole box and dice.

    Oddly, the most ardent anti-Zionists are found in group 1.

    My best guess (knowing quite a few Red Sea Pedestrians, none of whom tie boxes to their heads) is that 3 and 4 are the vast, vast majority of all Jews. They don’t participate in, or benefit from, the aberrant behaviour of the sociopathic few who share (some) ethnocultural group identity.

    In that sense, the majority of RSPs bear the same relationship to the ‘bad actors’, as we all do to our own bad actors (the political and bureaucratic classes). Just as it is really retarded to tar Yanks, Poms, Aussies, Ay-rabs etc with a brush based on the behaviour of the worst among them, so it is a terrible idea to do the same thing to all Jooooooze.

    Note that this does not apply when the aggregation happens in the correct domain: Israelis are a valid class to despise, because they and their anchor-babies are direct beneficiaries of an exterminationist policy, and they know it.

    So a gay atheist or a moderate BDS supporter from Tel Aviv, deserves just as much calumny as the spittle flecked rabid UO nutbars from Beit Shemesh or the equally-but-differently insane fuckwits from places like Tekoa (an illegal settlement in the Occupied West Bank). Even folks like Uri Avnery (of blessed but tarnished memory), Shlomo Sand and their ilk.

    Yes, the perfect is the enemy of the good. Rightly so.

    We wouldn’t give a concentration camp guard who was otherwise nice, a ‘pass’ for his participation in the unpleasantness visited on some folks in the 1940s (whatever form that took).

    I will mock anyone puerile enough to believe primitive drivel – regardless of denomination or strength of belief. It’s a “bright line” thing: adults who make their life decisions based on rules laid down with reference to imaginary entities should be mocked and their beliefs laid bare as ahistorical nonsense. That’s not “hate” or even “spite”.

    But I would view positively, any campaign by valid rights-holders (be they Palestinian, Irish, Hawai’ian, Maori, Aboriginal, Zulu, or whatever) that decimated invader populations in a bid to get the invader to sling their hook and take their anchor-babies with them.

    Caveat: where property changed hands voluntarily, without coercion, and the transfer was accepted as such by the prior rightful owner(s): those people and their descendants have the same rights as the indigenes, and dispossessing them would be a moral wrong.

    I add that because the white bits of my family fall into that category: they have unambiguously ‘clean hands’ with respect to their original arrival in Ao Tea Roa, and subsequent acquisition of a grant of land from a local iwi. They were granted (not sold) a large, fertile parcel as a reward for helping the tribe repulse an attack by the mythical ‘Crown’. This was before Te Tiriti O Waitangi, so Ao Tea Roa didn’t have a government as such. After 1845, the Crown spent 20 years trying to claim that the acquisition – being a reward for insurrection – was invalid, because the Crown wanted the land.

    • Replies: @Logan
    , @Ace
  23. @Anon

    I’m a Kandinsky fan, myself – especially when he stopped trying to paint stuff that looked like actual things.

    The extent if my Art Appreciation is the Monty Burns Method: “I don’t know Art, but I know what I hate”.

    Best as I can tell, wannabe artists who discovered they were shit at painting things that looked like the actual thing, arbitraged over to painting weird shit and relying on cosmopolitan fashion/gullibility. Same is true of literary theorists and architects.

    Komposition VIII is something that Miró could have produced if he was more talented… but like all commoners my favourite Kandinsky is Komposition VII.

    Weirdly, I’m not someone who checks whether or not the artist (or writer, or whatever) is a Red Sea Pedestrian before I decide whether I like their output or not. It’s as irrelevant as whether or not they liked olives, or ate halloumi or saganaki without lemon juice. (I kid… that last one’s an absolute deal-breaker). That’s Schrodinger-antisemitic, amirite (i.e., capable of being both – the wave function collapses to a point that takes values 1,0) depending on one’s tweets about #BDS).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  24. @The Dark Night

    I am a Halachic Jew

    Why would you ever bother to find that out – and if true, why would you self-describe as such?

    I’m descended (only ~4 generations ago) from savages who ate people, owned slaves, and thought that their country was a dead stingray fished up by Polynesian Hercules (Maui), and that personal magic was a thing (e.g., that a tohunga matakite could reliably forecast the future[1]).

    However since all those things are either abhorrent or preposterous, when I identify as part-Maori it is solely by reference to bloodline, not to whether I satisfy some bullshit written down by some charlatan who made his living pretending that his schtick was real. (Halachically-Jewish is a reference to a specific aspect of bloodline as declared by professional grifters: switch which genitals the Jewish DNA comes from, and the halacha gives you a different answer… which is a big sign it’s horseshit).

    Besides, it’s entirely possible to be halachically-Jewish, and an atheist (or even a member of the Westboro baptists FFS). A female descendant of a halachic Jew, is halachically a Jew, even if they renounce the Old Nonsense and wouldn’t recognise the Mitzvot if they were right in their face.

    Conversely, if Momma was a shikse, Daddy could be the most observant dude who ever tied a box to his head… but his kids would still be goyim.

    Why self-define by reference to primitive ascientific gibberish? It’s 200 years since the Industrial Revolution, and 350 since the Enlightenment, and 700 since the Renaissance. Time to maybe think about updating your Weltanschauung and sloughing off values that are preposterous or depraved…

    [1] ‘tohunga’ just means a highly skilled person, in some field of endeavour. Similar to ‘τέκτων’ I guess.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  25. Lot says:
    @Anon

    Well I’ll be darned, he’s actually Czech. Something like 80% of his work was commissioned by Jews, so I assumed he was one himself.

    His work is still pretty awesome.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  26. @Anon

    Also, what’s your source for Klimt being Jewish?

    There is no such source.

    Some of Gustav Klimt’s patrons – along with their wives and daughters – were Jewish, but not his mother…

    https://www.geni.com/people/Anna-Rosalia-Finster/3803491

    …nor his father:

    https://www.geni.com/people/Ernst-Klimt-der-Ältere/3803547

  27. Another ringer from Joyce! Can’t wait for the next one.

    But tolerance, despite all the glowing propaganda, is a curious word. Place it in a medical context, and tolerance means “the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific toxin or other foreign substance which induces an immune response in the body, especially the production of antibodies.”

    Interesting. I personally have long believed that a fascist is actually a white blood cell for the body-politic: It is his sacred office to protect the Volk from deadly contagion. That’s why I don’t recoil from all the Hitler stuff, unlike most of the libertarians here.

  28. @Lot

    …so I assumed he was one himself.”

    False presumptions based on wishful thinking.
    Just because an artist can work well with gold doesn’t mean he has to be Jewish.

  29. vasil says:

    thanks andrew ,that the tribe can only appeal to add hominem attaks speak highly of the wonderful article you have written.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  30. @Kent Nationalist

    Klimt wasn’t Jewish

    Nor was he Czech, as was proposed as an alternative.

  31. @The Dark Night

    Welcome to Unz, Dark Night.

    Suggestion: if you have something really interesting to add to the conversation here–something too involved or lengthy for a comment, I mean–then why not contact Mr. Unz and ask him if he will post a guest-article by you? He’s done that for other commenters before, you know.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  32. vasil says:

    or in other words
    the 4 horseman of apocalypse

    View post on imgur.com

    critique = ideological warfare
    tolerance = immigrant plague
    sterility = biological death
    usury = spiritual hunger

    • Replies: @Anon
  33. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @vasil

    All you need on that picture is some real gilding.

  34. @Digital Samizdat

    Thanks.

    Yes I think I can tell some interesting stories, as long as Judaism and Jews is a topic of interest here. Although this site doesn’t impress me much as a discussion club. The place is too crowded.

    Perhaps I could compose something resembling an article but I am not much of a writer either, though I do write long comments. However an article might be too much of a task for me.

    Yes, I could address that piece Ron Unz wrote some time ago about the Jewish religion and challenge his opinion, but I don’t think he would be interested in publishing something like that.

    I need a dialogue or else I feel no desire to write. Join me at Darkmoon, I can answer whatever question as long as it is in the area of the aforementioned topics and I promise to tell it like it is.

    Here I am not a frequent visitor, so excuse me for not responding at once. Hope we talk in the future.

  35. JohnnyD says:
    @silviosilver

    Exactly. It seems to me that the truth is much more complex and nuanced than “JEWS ARE BEHIND EVERYTHING!” It reminds me of the ADL’s version of “history” which places all the blame on white Christians, or even black race hustlers who blame the “white man” for “always keeping the black man down.”

  36. Never before seen Mossad this busy on the unz.com comment board – the ultimate tribute to this masterpiece by Andrew Joyce.

    They write that “Jewish artists’ marginality allows them a vantage point denied other, more culturally absorbed, creative thinkers.”

    No doubt Jews as outsiders are free of the ties that bind the host people – culture, morality, honor – and have a perspective enabling them to see, evaluate and exploit the group behavior of the herd in ways that can not be accomplished from within the herd to the extent Jews so easily attain.

    There are no clandestine midnight meetings, no gatherings of Elders of Zion, but instead a shared instinct defending shared interests in a spirit of bitterness and, in reality, the Culture of Critique is not a declaration of open war, but the pursuance of war disguised as friendship, as medicine, as liberation.

    This sentence in an instant classic because it echos one of the most powerfully accurate ever written about Jew evil:

    Chapter 16, The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire (1776–1789) by Edward Gibbon
https://www.ccel.org/g/gibbon/decline/volume1/chap16.htm


    Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which (((they))) committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene,where (((they))) dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives; and we are tempted to applaud the severe retaliation which was exercised by the arms of the legions against a race of fanatics whose dire and credulous superstition seemed to render (((them))) the implacable enemies not only of the Roman government, but of human kind.

    Mention of the Jew ethnicity’s “shared instinct” ties in exactly with the initial statement of “Anti-termite” first posted among comments on a prior article by Dr. Joyce:

    “Anti-Semite”?

    Anti-Termite!!!

    I oppose proactively hateful ethno-supremacist Jews behaving as termites gnawing often latently but ever unceasingly in instinctive concert at the cultural structure of white Christian society as they have been doing since arriving en masse in the United States circa 1880 pursuing their apparent goal to eradicate all people of European descent.

    Yet the sentence disappoints in two subtle ways: it infers the inauthenticity of The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, a view mistakenly held by invaluable human rights leader Dr. David Duke and possibly Dr. MacDonald when Waters Flowing Eastward (1933) by L. Fry irrefutably persuades the document is every bit as authentic as Henry Ford believed it to be; and mention of “medicine” as an area of Jew treachery gave rise to the unfulfilled hope that the article would shine Dr. Joyce’s always powerful light of truth on the hideous practice of Jew pediatricians, often unavoidable under today’s predominant medical care arrangements, poisoning our young boys with brain drugs and other devastatingly harmful treatments.

    …proving ourselves morally acceptable to our Jewish friends, the innocent martyrs of humanity.

    As Dr. MacDonald so frequently emphasizes, always the moral appeal to which whites are uniquely susceptible due to their pathological altruism which is another way of saying whites are vulnerable because they strive excessively like no other race to act righteously.

    Societies with demographic concerns will have harsh penalties for both homosexuality and abortion/infanticide. The West, celebrating both, is in demographic free fall but, ignorant of the profound implications of this racial death, its people are actually in the process of indulging a culture cultivated for their demographic assassination.

    #JEW$4whiteGENOCIDE

    There is nothing productive in the economic activity of any of these figures, their vast accumulations arising from sociopathic parasitism, ethnic nepotism, and the will to cultural decay.

    The path for overcoming the problems of Jew usury and Jew capture and weaponization of the money supply via control of the central bank is set out among the comments of MEFOBILLS here:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=MEFOBILLS

    • Replies: @Bert
  37. lavoisier says: • Website

    We have to ask ourselves how tolerance ever became regarded as a virtue. The answer is that it became a virtue in the context of the Jewish intrusion into Western culture.

    I think tolerance is a central virtue to the Christian faith.

    But that would be of Jewish origin as well.

    Very interesting article and well researched.

    The destruction that has been caused to the West by Jewish malevolence is substantial and largely indefensible.

    Very troubling indeed.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @John Regan
    , @melpol
  38. Talha says:
    @lavoisier

    I don’t get why Jews get a special category for racism or discrimination that is directed against them? Isn’t it simply racism if, say, you discriminate against Jews or Thais or Senegalese based on their ethnic background ?

    If there is an attack on a bunch of Jews, why can’t it just be called “a racist attack”?

    Peace.

  39. wayfarer says:

    One can choose to serve himself or to serve others.

    Jews have chosen to serve themselves – to realize this, one need not look any further than Israel with its culture of absolute selfishness.

    https://www.lawofone.info/

  40. @JohnnyD

    Well……jews ARE behind pretty much everything that is damaging to white Christian people.

    Not all jews participate in the subversion, but organized jewry is a well oiled well funded nation wrecking operation, and the destruction is everywhere you look.

    Macdonald’s “Culture of Critique” is a devastating analysis of jewish influence, and Joyce is mining some of the same gold.

    Macdonald never had an unkind thought toward jews until he looked into jewish influence on immigration and open borders.

    I bet Joyce followed a similar educational awakening.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @jack daniels
  41. Seraphim says:

    All problems arise from the fanaticism of a sect infected with narcissistic delusions of grandeur:

    “THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves” (Matthew 23:1-15).

  42. Three links for your viewing pleasure:

    “How the West Ends” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxQamW6Vo4U
    “The Honking of the Notre Dame” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qPPa0GdVUY
    “Europe is Lost” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR-9xjzoPg

  43. @silviosilver

    ‘I don’t think tendentious and unbalanced analyses like this really help anything.’

    Don’t they serve to balance the prevalence of the opposite; that absolutely nothing is happening, move along?

  44. renfro says:

    I really have to quit reading this stuff or I’ll start hating all the Jews instead of just the Jews For Israel.

    However I agree Jews need anti Semitism. Enough, but not too much, lets say luke warm anti-Semitism instead of boiling. Enough so they keep their special status and the benefits it brings….but not enough to get them run out of the country.

    I wonder if the hasbara trolls know they cause more anti Semitism then even articles like this.
    Maybe thats their goal.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    , @tac
  45. Wally says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    And Lot believes in the laughable ‘Nazi gas chambers’ and the fake 6M.
    Jews have been claiming 6M dead since at least 1823.

    “it is necessary to recognize that the lack of traces involves the inability to directly establish the reality of the existence of homicidal gas chambers.”
    – French exterminationist historian Jacques Baynac, Le Nouveau Quotidien (Lausanne, Switzerland), Sept. 3, 1996, p. 14.

    https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GUUwAAAAIBAJ&sjid=pKUFAAAAIBAJ&dq=zundel+hilberg&pg=4039,3484482&hl=fr

  46. @Kratoklastes

    ‘…Best as I can tell, wannabe artists who discovered they were shit at painting things that looked like the actual thing, arbitraged over to painting weird shit and relying on cosmopolitan fashion/gullibility. Same is true of literary theorists and architects…’

    Sometimes…

    Actually, the sad bit isn’t that sometimes you’re right, but that sometimes you’re wrong. The modestly prominent Abstract Expressionist Richard Diebenkorn dashed off some really masterful still-lifes when he felt like it — and who knows what he would have produced if most of his work hadn’t avoided the sin of being representational?

    There are other examples; minor representational masterpieces inconspicuously buried in an otherwise less-than-enthralling abstract ouvre.

    What if Renoir or Monet had been born a hundred years later than they were? We might have only a few of their smaller representational paintings to look at. The rest would all be more of that vast, anonymous abstract jumble that ultimately offers little — and that to only a few.

  47. Wally says:
    @Blake

    Depends on who you talk to.

    Most sure don’t look European.

  48. @Anon

    ‘Also, what’s your source for Klimt being Jewish?

    Should the tag be Your daily dose of ok-ish European Gentile art?’

    Jews aren’t really strong in the painting department. Most of the ones I can think of are either second rate — Pissaro, for example, is definitely a cut below — or I don’t care for: Chagall comes to mind. I spend a fair amount of time perusing the English-language Israeli press, and the artists that are promoted there are usually unimpressive.

    There is, of course, no particular reason there should be lots of great Jewish painters. Only somewhere around two-tenths of humanity is Jewish.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  49. renfro says:
    @The Dark Night

    I suggested to them more than once to help them understand the Jews and the Jewish thinking, I promised to answer whatever question being as honest as I can be. I offered them to get an insight into the most obscure corners of Judaism, which I know well.

    Well tell us about it.
    The only thing I know about Halachic Jews is they wont drink wine that a non Jew has touched…or so I read in the JP about some workers being fired because some objected to them helping to process wine.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  50. @Fidelios Automata

    Stalinism is what happens when the golem (Marxism) turns on its maker.

    It’s an old problem. Philosopher Kings never worked out because there are so very few philosophers, too few to govern if they act like philosophers. They therefore have a choice: act as philosophers and be removed from politics, or act as thugs and at least continue to get political loot. Problem with this is that if they act as thugs, they get to compete with _real_ thugs, who are much better at thuggery than are the philosophers.

    Same with the Jewish Bolsheviks: there were too few of them, they had to include other ethnic groups, and moreover (thinking of non-Jews as essentially golems, who have no initiative) discussed abstractions and went into the field making the Russians work and die, while Stalin (former armed bank robbery specialist, an aggressive psychopath most likely) did the secretary’s drudge work and counted votes. Stalin won, the Old Bolsheviks died. In two waves, one before WW II, one after.

    It’s a fundamental Jewish problem. Stalinism in some form was inevitable for the Bolshevicks. To use a card game analogy, it or something like it was “in the cards”, and was bound to be dealt sooner or later. By the same token, once the Democrats started a policy of genocide against the European population, it was inevitable that one of their own would tun out to be opposed to that, and that the genocide victims would support that man.

    The very shared world view (absolute good (themselves) and evil (everybody else)) that makes them a cohesive group also makes them unable to govern. As I’ve mentioned previously, it was only the retreat of the Europeans into metaphorical catatonia that permitted the Jewish influence post WW II. I remember that metaphorical catatonia very well; one only had to say a few magic words to paralyze any European in his or her tracks. Europeans are only now partially emerging from that condition.

    Counterinsurgency

  51. Kitty says:

    Trying to put Marx in the same pit as Boas and Freud is misguided at best. Marx is critiquing, but what is he critiquing? A system constructed by his racial brethren in collaboration with the self interested white elites. Capitalism is a product of jewish greed.

    • Agree: Miggle
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @jsigur
    , @Pheasant
  52. @advancedatheist

    “Sexologists” seem to be nearly all Jewish and hold their annual conference in Tel Aviv. Before Doctor Ruth there was Doctor Rubin and Alex Comfort. Amusingly, Doctor Ruth nearly had apoplexy when asked by David Letterman about her own sexual practices.
    Authors of smutty kids’ books also seem to be mostly Jews like the guy who pioneered “Captain Underpants.”
    I’m afraid it seems to be a Jewish specialty, even if a few WASPs have joined in the fun.
    The French have also distinguished themselves as sex fiends: a French intellectual cannot write on any subject without bringing up masturbation. Though many of these authors are Jews.

  53. @JohnnyD

    Of course the Jewish establishment is not weakly god-like. Circumstances favored them after WW II. Ashkenazi migration to NYC had spread the Jewish establishment had NYC. NYC is a relentlessly commercial society, has been since the Dutch founded it as a trading post. NYC is also adjacent to New England, dominated by Protestants who are a lot more like Judaism than they would like to believe, and still smarting from their defeat during Reconstruction.
    The two regions, NYC and the New England intellectual/religious establishment, formed an alliance that was instrumental in FDR’s election, and was extremely influential in US government during WW II.
    After WW II, the entire West was badly hurt and unable to take initiative in much of anything. The notion that the West had not only devastated much of the world but also introduced nuclear weapons that could devastate what was left destroyed Western confidence. The NYC/New England coalition took over, told everybody that (a) they were sinful, and their only permissible activity was to pray unceasingly for forgiveness while paying no attention to what the coalition was doing, and (b) that the public should pray for secular salvation from the coalition while paying no attention to what the coalition was doing and the coalition would fight the Cold War and protect the West from the Russians. It was pretty clear at the time. Disobedience would be punished by WW III, and a common question was why anybody would want to destroy the United States as it was, since it provided such good quality of life. I had that question asked of me very seriously up until about 1990.

    So, no, the Jewish establishment isn’t weakly god-like. The Jewish people I’ve met have all been rather transparent phonies, actually. It’s just that the Jewish establishment has had no serious competition since WW II.

    Of course, having no serious competition since WW II doesn’t mean the Jewish establishment are the good guys, open to cooperation, or have feathers and fly like birds. It just means (in practice) that they’ve have 3rd generation syndrome (they rely on routine and have purged their talent), and maybe that serious competition could win now. Look at Stalin — functionally a Russian nationalist. He was a lot quicker off the dime than the entire West has been since WW II, and he was in a far less favorable position than the West is in today.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @John Regan
  54. @Robert Dolan

    Growing up in a Jewish neighborhood I began to notice that most of the Jewish kids were about 60 degrees to the left of the gentiles, regardless of party affiliation, and many seemed to be rooting for the Soviet Union in the Cold War. They also seemed to be into everything modern: modern art, jazz, weird classical music, modern architecture, city planning, and sexual liberalism. In the late 60s many of them joined explicitly socialist or communist groups and nearly all embraced the hippie innovations. They seemed to have a very dim view of the United States. The best students were nearly all Jews and were very vocal in disseminating their opinions. Since my own family was fairly conservative, this irritated me quite a bit, though I did have a couple atypical Jews as close friends.

    • Replies: @Avery Bledsoe
    , @Pheasant
  55. The right’s main problem is that Jews are too powerful to criticize, which perversely causes rightists to attack blacks and other groups whose behavior would not be a problem were it not for the way Jews ‘weaponize’ it via their “Culture of Victimhood” and “Rainbow Coalition” strategy of bloc voting for Democrats who then implement a Jewish agenda.
    Additionally, the white rank and file for the most part do not know what a “Jew” is, and see their oppressors as blacks, Hispanics, or Muslims. If you told them Muslims only hate us because of our slavish support for the Jewish state they would stare blankly.
    Racist-sounding rhetoric is a dead-end. Despite their high crime rate, blacks are not plausible in the role of oppressor. They are too poor and powerless. Anyone alleging that blacks secretly run the Fed or the world would be telling a joke. Similarly for Hispanics, gays, and Muslims.
    The right needs to find a way to critique Jewish power without endorsing or seeming to endorse Nazism and similar forms of primitive bigotry. It’s not unreasonable to join the late Rev. Billy Graham in noting that there are certain consequences to Jewish power that a non-Jew might honorably wish to avoid. Which is not to deny that Jews have made positive contributions.

    • Replies: @National Action
  56. sally says:
    @Anonymous

    you have raised an interesting question<= nation state are platforms that can serve highly diverse modes and forms of corruption? But what coordinates diverse corrupt and criminal private parties so that they don't bump into each other? Could it be, something as simple as reference to the Interest of Israel?

    Israel has no legitimate interest in America IMO. So the Interest of Israel (IOI) has developed into war cry of sorts, an icon, a banner, a national emblem which invisibility organizes and directs … accommodation. ?

    Governments are controlled armed and dangerous platforms. Those who control <=use the platform everyone else is denied.

  57. @Talha

    Jews are at once a race, a religion, and a nation. To further complicate matters, the religion makes a distinction based on lineage. For that reason, hostility to Jews is different from hostility to other groups. Indeed, one cause of hostility is failure to distinguish these attributes e.g. thinking it nervy for Jewish atheists to call themselves “Jews.”

  58. jhan says:

    If you want any change of having an impact on society you are going to have to strip your language of ethnic designations like ‘Jew’, ‘Whites’ or ‘blacks’. The general public has nowhere near your knowledge of Jewish involvement so bringing it up will only make them think you are a conspiracy theorist, one step away from opening up the death camps.

    I think ‘globalists’ will one group to fight, they want open borders, ‘tolerance’ and multiculturalism (what they really mean is multiracialism) for cheap labor, no restrictions on capital flow, interventionist foreign policy and financial control over government(s) (like Goldman Sachs with Obama) to make all that happen. This would be the fight against Tolerance and Usury.

    The other group to fight is the ‘cultural Marxists’ (that would be Critique and Sterility).

    Besides, both groups mentioned above also contain a lot of non-Jewish believers. Just yelling ‘jew, jew, jew!’ won’t get you anywhere.

  59. Bert says:
    @The Dark Night

    I have a question for you Dark Night. By what economic behavior were the Ashkenazi able to grow their population thousands of times faster than the native populations of Europe grew? After providing proof of the implicit statement in my question, I will await your answer.

    Calculating the disparity between the Ashkenazi population growth rate and the native European growth rate. The entire European population was used to calculate the host population growth rate because estimates for individual countries are confounded by boundary changes. Using the study reviewed on this link https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html and historical demographic summaries, we see that between 700 A.D. and 1940 the Ashkenazi population increased from 400 individuals to 8 million (a 20,000-fold increase), while the native European population grew from 40 million to 240 million (a 6-fold increase). This means that the Ashkenazi population grew more than 3,000 times faster than the native population (20,000/6 = 3,333).

    This disparity is not possible without ongoing disproportionate extraction of economic resources from the native population, i.e., only economic parasitism could lead to such a disparity in population growth rates. For any unbiased numerate person, the disparity in growth rates would make it impossible to infer that Ashkenazi attitudes towards the goyim from whom they made their money were benign or even neutral. Ashkenazi were naturally selected to show, in addition to their postive ethnocentrism toward each other, negative ethnocentrism toward their Caucasian neighbors. Such negative ethnocentrism would be a psychological mechanism enabling exploitation of Poles, Russians, and Ukrainians uninhibited by empathy. The economic resources thus obtained supported large families with less child mortality than experienced among the native peasantry.

  60. Bert says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    “Never before seen Mossad this busy on the unz.com comment board – the ultimate tribute to this masterpiece by Andrew Joyce.”

    Yes sir, I noticed that immediately.

  61. Bravo says:

    Excellent article, Mr. Joyce.

  62. Parfois1 says:
    @Talha

    If there is an attack on a bunch of Jews, why can’t it just be called “a racist attack”?

    Easy. They are not common variety people like Thais or Senegalese, Christians or Buddhists. They are the especially Chosen ones and need deferential acknowledgement.

  63. Logan says:
    @Kratoklastes

    But I would view positively, any campaign by valid rights-holders (be they Palestinian, Irish, Hawai’ian, Maori, Aboriginal, Zulu, or whatever) that decimated invader populations in a bid to get the invader to sling their hook and take their anchor-babies with them.

    The problem with this theory is that it would dispossess the vast majority of the world’s population, as (almost) all of us are at least partly descended from conquerors.

    The male line of the “original” inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula disappeared completely 4500 years ago when steppe tribes showed up and exterminated all the males.

    The entire history of the world is similar. The Sioux obsess about the Black Hills being stolen from them, which it was. But less than 100 years before they had stolen it from the Cheyenne, who stole it from the Kiowa, etc., etc.

    The “Palestinians” may have largely been present in what is now Israel when the Israelis started arriving, but they are certainly not the “original” inhabitants.

    The process of determining who the “valid rights-holders” is beyond human capabilities. What about those, probably almost all of us, who are descended from both conquerors and conquered?

    Where would the billions of non-valid rights-holders go back to?

  64. @lavoisier

    More accurately, the Christian Church has been extremely intolerant throughout the vast majority of its recorded history. Protestantism no less so than Roman Catholicism originally. It used to be that public atheism or heresy were capital offenses in all civilized countries. And they were offenses recognized and punished by the law much more recently than that.

    In milquetoast Great Britain, historically known as the paradise of all heretics, a homosexual was sentenced to prison for making anti-Christian pornography as late as 1979. The applicable laws against blasphemy, although no longer enforced, remained on the books until 2008.

    Of course, there were both good things and bad about this. Christian orthodoxy undeniably served a useful function to preserve society from the depravity of its worst elements, native or invasive. (We can hardly imagine Messieurs Kinsey, Hirschfeld or Freud being suffered to live for any length of time in the Spain of Torquemada or the Germany of Martin Luther, for example.) What the recent absence of this defense mechanism (or other comparable ones) has wrought in our society is plain for all to see. On the other hand, the same Christian orthodoxy has also played a major role in retarding actual scientific and social progress (as opposed to the liberal “progress” which we more properly call degeneracy) by endlessly denying unpalatable truths in favor of comforting delusions.

    Be this as it may; the topic is far larger than I can do justice in this little post. My point here is merely that the “tolerance” of the modern churches is very much a recent development, completely foreign to the Christian tradition of two millennia. It is an import from secular, atheistic philosophies, which have in turn been nourished by the usual suspects, not infrequently for the express purpose of destroying the hated Christian religion.

    Whether we like Christianity and its heritage or not, or view it with some degree of ambivalence (as most of us here probably do), its decline is a sufficiently important factor in the development of our present situation that we must surely take great care to correctly diagnose its causes and mechanisms. Ascribing to historical Christianity the lunacies of the “Christian” churches of today makes rather less sense than holding Corporal Adolf Hitler to blame for Angela Merkel’s policies, or Virginia planter George Washington for those of B. Hussein Obama.

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    , @Bill
  65. @The Dark Night

    I’ve read all replies to your complaint here; all were respectful and some had questions. Begin there.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  66. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Talha

    If there is an attack on a bunch of Jews, why can’t it just be called “a racist attack”?

    That is a good question. Harming another individual out of racial animus or for whatever unjustified reason is immoral. Period.

    Attacks against Jews have a special status because they are in control and they have set up the system to favor their own against the interests of others.

    Tragically, this has been the case throughout human history and represents our moral failing as a species.

    During the Roman empire, if a household slave killed the master of the estate all the slaves in the estate would be crucified, including women and children. Horrible barbarity and injustice that was written into their laws and sanctioned by a supposedly advanced civilization.

    The Jews are the current masters of our world and their influence, although positive in some respects, remains deeply and disturbingly immoral precisely because of the special nature they have accorded themselves and demand the rest of us to follow.

    Your question is central to wresting some measure of control back from this most favored group of human beings.

  67. @Talha

    If there is an attack on a bunch of Jews, why can’t it just be called “a racist attack”?

    Because Jews invented the categories and they are the most racist anyway. Even racist and hateful against whites, against whom they’re now conducting a genocidal campaign through promotion of immigration, even though most whites helped to defeat their worst enemies, the Germans/Nazis. And even now, those white countries they wish to destroy are the biggest supporters of their ethnic state Israel. Very ungrateful people. They think everybody owes them something and that because they are the smartest that they should be allowed to run things. We’ll see how it works out for them. The pity is that many others have to suffer too along the way.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  68. Jake says:

    “Boas tore down Western cultural confidence while claiming to set Westerners free from the errors and burdens of chauvinism. Freud perverted everything that was sacred about sex and marriage, and called it a cure. Marx called on the workers of the world to unite, and unite them he did — in the lines for food, in the gulags, and in the mass graves of a starved Ukraine.”

    All of that and much more is true. And this is also true: none of it could have come to pass if not for the war against historic Christianity and Christendom waged by white Gentiles, triply most importantly by the English and the Continental Germans.

    This is a spiritual, religious war. It cannot be won on any other battlefield. Everything that is not part of reviving Christendom is at best a waste of time, energy, and money.

    That includes Vatican II/Novus Ordo Catholicism. It too, like Protestantism, is a war against historic Christianity and Christendom, which is the reason that Jews love it the way they love the Anglican Communion.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  69. @Counterinsurgency

    Of course, having no serious competition since WW II doesn’t mean the Jewish establishment are the good guys, open to cooperation, or have feathers and fly like birds. It just means (in practice) that they’ve have 3rd generation syndrome (they rely on routine and have purged their talent), and maybe that serious competition could win now. Look at Stalin — functionally a Russian nationalist. He was a lot quicker off the dime than the entire West has been since WW II, and he was in a far less favorable position than the West is in today.

    Then again, Stalin died (maybe he was murdered, maybe he was just old) just right about when he was planning his anti-Jewish purge. Afterward, the Jews he had persecuted became somewhat less visible, but remained extremely influential in Soviet society. (For the data, see “The Jewish Century” by Yuri Slezkine – a book that everyone interested in our social problems should read regardless.) And after the USSR collapsed, due at least in part to sabotage by the New York establishment and its own termites, dual-citizenship gangsters looted the assets of the former Soviet state and became billionaires overnight, even as the Russians themselves were reduced to third world living standards in the 1990s. Even today, for all that Russian fake nationalists and gullible Westerners love to laud the colorblind imperialist Vladimir Putin, the same cliques still make up a very powerful element among the famous “Russian” oligarchs.

    Stalin was a monster in many ways. Full stop, for emphasis. He also, of course, did some things right, or he would not have been able to remain head of a superpower for decades. What he certainly did not do, however, was to solve Russia’s problems with ethnic infiltration, whatever metric one measures such things by. Today, ethnic Russians are not yet a minority in Russia (after it shed most of its Soviet empire), but the trend is moving in that direction.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  70. @Lot

    You know it’s really telling about frauds like you you call McDonald’s and Joyce both frauds but you are the biggest fraud. all you’ve done here is just throwing accusations you haven’t rebutted anything in the article or anything they’ve written you’re just a typical Left Wing Moron . You love to call good academics who have risked everything fighting a parasitic group of people of which you might possible belong to, well mr. “Eloquent Dunce” it seems like the only one it’s not looking so great right now is you because we’ve all seen you before we’ve all heard the same nonsense come out of your mouths. “Bad arguments” oh yes. Of course. Jews are just marvelous Beautiful Creatures who totally don’t have any influence at all even though their own magazines and organizations brag about it from time to time if you can even read through the lines of their Publications (you can literally check Wikipedia If you are smart enough) , and if they do I’m sure they have our best interests at heart that’s why they always have to remind us of our privilege and how it’s so beautiful that we are beginning to disappear and accelerating it by providing funds for all these phony tolerance organizations to bolster and Accelerate our demise. Isn’t that just wonderful? No. You are probably a member of this parasitic tribe yourself it wouldn’t surprise me you can’t help but speak the same way as your Kinsman, deceitful, a high vocabulary none the less but what good is a high vocabulary when all you say is just baseless rhetoric talking about Authority here and Authority there using $20 insults. nothing that you and every other commenter that I’ve observed on all of these articles written by these two great men have said the same nonsense without providing a single convincing fact to their arguments. You are worse than a “Eloquent Dunce” no, you are a Rat infecting our Societies attacking men who are doing a duty to their race by Removing The Blinds of Jewish Lies from the eyes of Millions of White men across the globe, keep your obsolete mainstream”Academics” all you want. But it’s a losing battle. As things get worse more and more Whites Are not buying it.

  71. @jack daniels

    “Primative bigotry” typically. Let me ask you, what is so “primative” about wanting your Race and Nation to survive ? What is so “bigoted” about recognizing that some people are inherently Inferior to others while some are superior? You are probably just a Rat Faced Kike

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  72. Bookish1 says:

    Hitler questioned nature’s reason for giving us jews. He thought maybe the reason was to force a reaction against jews and for our survival the people would have to be united and strong. And that is what nature is after and rewards, strength.

  73. anonymous[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sparky

    That someone must have been among the most intelligent people in the world? Was he Jewish?

  74. Bookish1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Thanks to the internet the views you expressed are now out in the open for all to read.

  75. Total absolutely brilliant article. Not too many people will read it slowly and attentively to understand it

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
  76. there are only two way forward the jewish way and the aryan way

    Degrading humanity to the lowest common denominator mixing all beauty to extinction so jews can rule unopossed in a world in ruins like are trying to do

    or….

    The aryan way, all mutted aryan around the world indians iranians and europeans embracing technology and our aryan ancestry to purificate ourself to be what we once were.
    We are angels mixed with mortals embracing aryan transhumanism to reclaim our legitimate throne in this world and became ourself the ultimate ubermench to lead the world to the stars and trasform this world in the garden of eden.

    improving ourselfs to an ubermench status to save this world or let the jews degrade humanity and the world itself to an unrecognizable status .

  77. the swastica presiding the united nations as a symbol of our common history and heritage thats how it should be and it will be .

    View post on imgur.com

  78. @Logan

    Thank you for exposing the logical dead end to this blowhard’s thinly veiled anti white screeds.

    Further, comparing the natural expansion of human migration/conquest over hundreds or thousands of years to the concerted effort by a subversive elite, to overwhelm a known and sovereign country/ies with invasive aliens incapable of assimilating into more advanced societies, is an exercise in patent dishonesty. More evidence of the grotesque and deformed morality that is egalitarianism.

    At this point, it is up to the native and heritage population of the Western countries being invaded to forcibly remove the alien invaders from their lands or suffer the same fate of those past primitive and backwards peoples the egalitarians pretend to care about (but at the same time fetishize the replacement and elimination of European descendants.)

  79. Anti-semitism is a zionist trick to divide and conquer, and in reality all arabs are semetic and most of the Jews in Israel are not semetic, they are Europeans and Russians, typical zionist scam!

    Read The Protocols of Zion, there are laid out the plans of satanic zionism.

  80. @jack daniels

    Those were the days. A time when the Jews, Gentiles et al were quite unsatisfied with current events but mostly far more relaxed and positive about the obvious better possibilities for life. Since this is the Unz review it should be acknowledged that many of these folk gleefully fornicated with one another – sometimes while using drugs. Meanwhile the more provincial hicks feared rock n’ roll aka Satan’s music.

  81. @John Regan

    What he certainly did not do, however, was to solve Russia’s problems with ethnic infiltration, whatever metric one measures such things by. Today, ethnic Russians are not yet a minority in Russia (after it shed most of its Soviet empire), but the trend is moving in that direction.

    Agree.

    Stalin conducted two purges, the final one after WW II, and I understand that the second purge was mostly complete when Stalin died. He didn’t purge every Jewish person in the USSR, and (from subsequent events) didn’t purge all of the influential Jewish people in the USSR, as you point out.

    However, neither of Stalin’s two purges were victories for the Jewish establishment, and involved substantial Jewish casualties. Contrast this to the complete submission of the West to the Jewish establishment after WW II. The Jewish establishment in Russia may be powerful (remember that Putin’s coalition defeated the Jewish oligarchs), but not as powerful as the Jewish establishment in the West. The Russian population may be almost a minority now, but, well, it appears that the global zeitgeist is changing, and population curves are becoming nonlinear or even discontinuous [1].

    And my basic point was that present Jewish dominance in the West is not due to the Jewish establishment being especially good, but rather to the Western establishment being unusually bad, almost completely lacking in “agency”. In the United States, the Jewish establishment is dominant in NYC (which gives it dominance in most large urban areas) and is allied with New England (what Woodward calls “Yankeedom” [2], actually the much larger area settled from New England) which has dominance over intellectual matters and corporate management, which believes what it was told in MBA school a bit too much.

    As the effect of WW II diminishes in new Western generations, and as opportunities for the young in the industrial society the West invented and made diminish, you can expect a bit more “agency” to be shown. Trump’s fight (and related fights worldwide), which is now heating up about as I wrote that it would, offers considerable opportunities to the young and ambitious. We’re entering a time interval within which old things collapse almost of their own weight, and the young have great opportunities. Should the old ways win against Trump (or his foreign analogs), “social stresses” will increase until an even more severe cascade failure occurs. This appears to be happening in Hong Kong right now, even without a charismatic leader.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Woodward calls NYC “New Netherland” to highlight the founder effect. Dutch merchants at the NYC founding were known for their willingness to sell to anybody under any circumstances and for not considering long term consequences — just like today’s NYC.

    2] https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-rats-turned-their-private-paradise-into-a-terrifyin-1687584457

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  82. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:

    As Ron Unz pointed out in his Oddities of the Jewish Religion

    And while religious Judaism has a decidedly negative view towards all non-Jews, Christianity in particular is regarded as a total abomination, which must be wiped from the face of the earth.

    They’ve been pretty successful in this endeavor.

    …according to the Jewish Talmud, Jesus is perhaps the vilest being who ever lived, condemned to spend eternity in the bottommost pit of Hell, immersed in a boiling vat of excrement. Religious Jews regard the Muslim Quran as just another book, though a totally mistaken one, but the Christian Bible represents purest evil, and if circumstances permit, burning Bibles is a very praiseworthy act. Pious Jews are also enjoined to always spit three times at any cross or church they encounter, and direct a curse at all Christian cemeteries. Indeed, many deeply religious Jews utter a prayer each and every day for the immediate extermination of all Christians.

    … Israeli rabbis have sometimes publicly debated whether Jewish power has now become sufficiently great that all the Christian churches of Jerusalem, Bethleham, and other nearby areas can finally be destroyed, and the entire Holy Land completely cleansed of all traces of its Christian contamination.

    Does anyone think it’s no coincidence that America’s second greatest friend and ally in the Middle East, whom we’ve gone to war for and promise to go to war for, and our government sides with over American citizens, bans all Christian religious practice and makes it punishable by death to convert to Christianity?

    I ❤️ Jesus! Agnus dei, qui tolis peccata mundi.

  83. Patricus says:
    @JohnnyD

    Our manners in this late stage of white Christian civilization demand self restraint by the majority. We feel compelled to pretend Africans are just like us. Any difficulties they experience, such as social breakdown and criminality, are a result of our past and present racism. It is not polite to call a spade a spade. Jews are a minority so we try to avoid identifying them as Jews or criticizing any Jew even if they deserve it. We politely applaud any new Holocaust museum opening even if we happen to think the event is at best wildly exaggerated and possibly a complete hoax. Latins are “family oriented” and entrepreneurs. Of course. Some among these minorities exploit our guilt for all it is worth. Who wants to be labeled a racist, anti-Semite or xenophobe?

    Does this self restraint indicate that we are all two-faced and our civilization is collapsing? Is it possible this attitude is actually a strength which will guarantee us another 500 years of racial supremacy?

    • Replies: @Wally
  84. @jhan

    Besides, both groups mentioned above also contain a lot of non-Jewish believers. Just yelling ‘jew, jew, jew!’ won’t get you anywhere.

    Agree. When capital flow to large urban areas stops (most likely due to failure of world trade) the outflow of their populations will more or less erase any question of politics, as it will be as impossible to support those populations in the hinterlands as it had finally become in the cities they fled. At that point, it’s going to be simple “inhabitants vs. refugees”, covert at first and then overt.

    Impossible scenario? I thought so also until the “homeless” became a massive public health hazard (showing extreme poverty of city governments) and until the current financial problems (most recent one being a shortage of cash for overnight lending). You can add in the INS leaving foreigners at bus stations when it’s zero dark thirty, and doing so in such numbers that the local governments don’t have the funds to keep them minimally housed and fed to avoid the foreigners turning rogue from a simple desire to keep eating. These actions are ordinarily described as “insane”, but they are not, they are only desperate improvisations by people facing even worse consequences from any alternatives they can think of.

    Counterinsurgency

  85. @Bert

    The economic resources thus obtained supported large families with less child mortality than experienced among the native peasantry.

    Could you expand your analysis to account for Degeneration among Jews that both Vladimir Jabotinsky and Max Nordau observed, and that both sought to remedy by zionism?

    Crank into your analysis how those more-and-larger-Jewish-families (most of whom were in the impoverished Fiddler on the Roof caste) migrated to Germany shortly after German unification, to relieve the stresses of overpopulation among their tribes and to take advantage of the institutions that Germans created in their trade-off of larger families.

    That tension — Jews from among overpopulated, under-industrialized, under-democratized and revolutionizing Russia and Poland flooding into newly unified Germany, supplanting native-born Germans in the universities Germans had sacrificed to create for their children — was one of the main causes of anti-semitism in the decades before WWI.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Bert
  86. Bookish1 says:

    Keep in mind the things that jews are doing to the west are the very things that hitler was fighting against.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  87. @John Regan

    On the other hand, the same Christian orthodoxy has also played a major role in retarding actual scientific and social progress (as opposed to the liberal “progress” which we more properly call degeneracy) by endlessly denying unpalatable truths in favor of comforting delusions.

    Note, however, that non-Christian societies never invented science — all they had was technology, ability to build things with no systematic understanding of why the things worked. Geometry pre-Greek was a set of rules of thumb, no system.

    The idea that there is an orthodoxy that exists independently of the individual orthodox person is necessary for the existence of science, which is simply a statement that the universe has an inbuilt orthodoxy in the form of invariant physical laws. If there is no orthodoxy, if politics is a matter of personal power networks only, then science becomes profoundly uninteresting [1] and may be disparaged as an impossible dream. In a way, Kuhn was saying exactly that in _Structure of Scientific Revolutions_ — his rule was that science didn’t accept new theories / data, but rather that the old scientist died and the young scientists accepted the new theories. Sort of like Russian politics in the 1930s, but involving old age rather than retirement.

    So, you have to take the good with the bad. No orthodoxy, no science either. Which is what we’re seeing today in terms of replicability failure.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] I’ve had more than one student flatly say that they did not want to learn anything that might disagree with what a future employer would believe, and this included rules of grammar an various areas of engineering courses. They thought that firmly held opinions of any sort were a threat to their political flexibility.

  88. Wally says:
    @advancedatheist

    the facts are:

    Jews more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian : http://akinokure.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/jews-more-than-twice-as-likely-to-be.html
    Homosexuality Is Part of Jewish Tradition, Contrary to the common perception, intimate relations between people of the same sex did not always have a negative image in Jewish communities. : https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-homosexuality-part-of-jewish-tradition-1.5383449
    Israel is the gayest country on earth: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/
    STUDY: One-Third of Israelis Are Bisexual: https://www.advocate.com/world/2015/08/31/study-one-third-israelis-are-bisexual
    Welcome to Tel Aviv, the gayest city on earth: https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2016/03/17/welcome-tel-aviv-gayest-city-earth/y9V15VazXhtSjXVSo9gT9K/story.html
    and: https://www.jewishpress.com/news/is-tel-aviv-really-the-gayest-city-on-the-planet/2016/03/19/
    Israel becoming ‘safe haven for paedophiles’ with laws that allow any Jews to legally return: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-safe-haven-paedophiles-jerusalem-sex-abuse-jewish-community-watch-a7445246.html

    • Replies: @baythoven
    , @mark green
  89. Bill says:
    @The Dark Night

    Here is a sample of TDK’s kindly offered reason and logic on the subject of Epstein’s victims:

    No as far as I know the shiksas he was banging were about 15-16. At the age of 12 these soon to become prostitutes children were watching porno and dreaming about screwing a rich man such as Epstein.

    Can you imagine how depraved you have to be to reject such deep learning, moral insight, and rigorous truth-telling?

  90. Wally says:
    @Kitty

    Please let us know where Communism has been successful.

    Let us know where ‘black elites’ have ever created anything.

    I surmise that your version of capitalism” is not really capitalism in a free market.
    Indeed, The Usual Enemies of Free Speech love it when rules benefit their interests.

    You are confused.

  91. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    You can’t get away from the jews using their economic systems. Jews use immigrants as a shield because the Jew is an invaders as much as Muslim. They are Middle Eastern not European. Christians shouldn’t need laws to tell them right from wrong, laws are for atheists, for Jews and Muslims, for politicians and their worshipers. You shouldn’t need a law about abortion at all just by having it gives it’s promoters an opportunity to expand upon it and further exploit it. It creates the fights of Democracy and moves the boundaries usually in the atheists favor to the point we’re at today with the boundaries continuing to expand to encompass all sorts of the bizarre. Mental health doctors think homosexuality is normal and these are the same people who decide what is good or bad for the crazy population.
    You want their economic prosperity but claim you don’t want them. For all those advocacy groups you mention you can find others like Catholics or Muslims, blacks whites for immigration as well, Christian groups and non Christians alike. The churches are as deceiving as the state and Muslims are not our friend in any of it either.
    People will fight tooth and nail for this economic system and the baubles it brings. Their heros will continue to be fictional characters in movies like Superman and Batman, Shazam, while wailing that God doesn’t exist and it’s all made up in our heads. They’ll glory at the Guardians of the Galaxy, with it’s cool cute dancing fool portraying themselves as hero’s saving the economic systems for future generations. Saving our standard of living and tolerance for one another whether we are green or blue or what planet we come from. In every movie the strong humans defeat the Gods, who are weak and evil, a parasite carried around that takes over your being. Even the Christians can’t help themselves from not only walking in Jesus footsteps to save everyone but taking and darning his robes and sandles too but with a hand in someone else’s pocket. There are so many Jesus’ out among us little people, sending us to hell rather building their own home to welcome Jesus into it. I don’t think it was ever everyone’s job to be Jesus, but that’s just me rambling.

  92. Wally says:
    @Patricus

    said:
    ” We politely applaud any new Holocaust museum opening even if we happen to think the event is at best wildly exaggerated and possibly a complete hoax.”

    There simply is no proof for any of the impossible “holocaust” claims.
    What DID happen to Jews was no different than what happened to Japanese-Americans, and less than what happened to those tossed into the much worse, real ‘death camps’, aka: Communist gulags.

    [MORE]

    There are over 100 “Holocaust” related “museums” in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.

    Facts about one of them, the so called ‘US ‘Holocaust’ Memorial Museum:
    Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & Zionist organizations: $151,826,695.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf
    US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget: 56,999,500.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

    Get off your knees.
    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Patricus
  93. alan says:
    @Blake

    Correct, Blake. And ‘semite’ doesn’t mean what the jew wants the non-jew to think it means. Very few have any understanding of the root meanings of the Hebrew language; including those that call themselves ‘jew’. Just like few understand that ‘Ashkenaz’ is originally ‘iysh qenaz’, and Qenaz was a grandson of Esau. [Gen. 36:11] Just a little tidbit that the ‘jew’ doens’t want discussed. No such thing as an ‘Ashkenazi jew’. Thanks for your coments.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Miggle
  94. Bill says:
    @John Regan

    On the other hand, the same Christian orthodoxy has also played a major role in retarding actual scientific and social progress

    Atheist fairy tales.

  95. AaronB says:

    For my part, I don’t think people should hate Jews, I don’t think people should hate whites, and I don’t think people should hate Muslims.

    What people should be opposed to are immoral ideologies like Darwinism and capitalism, and intellectual movements that destroy traditional morality and religion like the Enlightenment.

    It would be easy to say European whites are the worlds “essentially” evil people, the people who destroyed the beauty of the world, because they created and unleashed these forces on the world, creating tremendous ugliness and misery.

    And of course many, if not most, of the non-European world – and many of the most sensitive whites – have indeed come to that conclusion.

    But that would be as wrong and immoral – unintelligent – as blaming Jews or Muslims or blacks or whatever per race one has decided to use as a Scapegoat.

    These hideous truth and beauty destroying movements began among European whites and claimed them as their first and most total victims – no other people has succumbed so completely. Consequently, European whites are self-destructing at an alarming rate.

    The truth is no one is “responsible” for these movements – they are dark primal forces that are beyond anyone. And no one is immune. All of us have succumbed to some degree or other – whites merely most of all.

    Even though whites have a harder task than the rest of us in returning to health, as the people who succumbed most completely and the first ones to fall, none of us are exempt.

  96. Jake says:
    @Logan

    Palestinians are the product of the historical waves, including the Kingdom of Israel/Samaria. Palestinian heritage features the ‘Lost Tribes’ of Israel, as well as non-Hebrew Semites from both Canaanite and Assyrian wings of Semitism, as well as dollops of other peoples who may not have been Semitic.

    Jews hate the Palestinians with a genocidal wrath because they so hated the Samaritans: the leftovers from the destroyed Kingdom of Israel. Post Babylonian Captivity, Jewish ‘theology’ became first and foremost racist. Jews (descendants of the ‘southern’ Kingdom of Judah) saw Samaritans as half-breeds and quarter-breeds, which made them unclean in the Second Temple Jewish ‘theology’ of racism.

    And all that Jewish racist hatred for close kin came to a boil when Jesus the Christ preached to Samaritans and then when a larger percentage of Samaritans than Jews became and remained Christian.

  97. These are some of the brands I will avoid, Many thanks.

    Today, largely worthless “branded” consumer products are overwhelmingly Jewish, are promoted via Jewish dominance of the advertising industry, and their purchase by consumers is funded by Jewish financiers. Calvin Klein, Levi Strauss, Ralph Lauren, Michael Kors, Kenneth Cole, Max Factor, Estée Lauder, and Marc Jacobs are just some of the Jews whose very names have become synonymous with debt-fueled consumer culture and the subscribing to carefully cultivated fashion fads, while Jewish-owned companies like Starbucks, Macy’s, the Gap, American Apparel, Costco, Staples, Home Depot, Ben & Jerry’s, Timberland, Snapple, Häagen-Dazs, Dunkin’ Donuts, Monster Beverages, Mattel, and Toys “R” Us

  98. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. The lady holding the sign about tolerance displays her ignorance of the Talmud which is full of bigotry and hate. Talmudism should be opposed and not tolerated. Like other church goers, they are ignorant of their creed. And so called Jews are not the only Semites, the Arabs are a Semitic people. So when they scream about anti-Semitism, they are again being hypocrites, as no one hates or kills more Arabs than Israel, the so called Jewish State.
    Eventually, thanks to the internet, a lot of lies will finally be killed. The recent abbreviation Jew which was Judean in the Greek, will finally be fixed in all the Bibles. Today’s so called Jews are really Talmudists. They are not from Judea. And they do not have the faith of Abraham, nor the circumcision made without hands.

  99. AaronB says:

    Although I am not a Christian, the excellent old Christian formula expresses what is going on here – ” We fight against principalities and dark powers, not flesh and blood”.

    Carl Jung might say we are fighting against dark primal powers of the unconscious that we have failed to integrate.

    Unfortunately, people tend to project in the flesh what are primal psychic forces, and everyone has their pet race or group that represents these things.

  100. Jake says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Those Jews were not foreigners to Germanic culture. They all spoke Yiddish, which is German with a scant handful of Semitisms. And the vast majority of them hated and despised Slavs as racially inferior just like the Nazis and many other Germans.

    And the German intellectual and artistic and journalist classes, as well as the liberals who had near total control of the Lutheran church, welcomed those ‘eastern’ Jews with open arms

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Bert
    , @Wally
  101. Patricus says:
    @Wally

    Yes but it would be rude and unsympathetic to point out these things. Let the Jews rejoice in their martyrdom, real or imagined. All minorities need grievances.

  102. brams says:
    @Talha

    the exceptionalism of the Jews sounds like a reluctance to share some values with others. shoah instead of genocide, anti-Semitism instead of racism although askhenazes are not Semitic.In “l’antisémitisme, son histoire et ses causes” from Bernard Lazare you can read this “If this hostility, this very repugnance, had been exercised vis-a-vis the Jews only in a time and a country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of these anger; but this race has, on the contrary, been exposed to the hatred of all the peoples in whose midst it has been established. Therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, they must live in countries very distant from one another, governed by different laws, governed by opposite principles, and by had neither the same morals nor the same customs, that they were animated by dissimilar spirits not allowing them to judge equally of all things, it is necessary that the general causes of anti-Semitism have always resided in Israel itself and not in those who fought him. it is to a harmful, perverse culture “that is the primary responsibility in the fate reserved for the Jews. And Bernard Lazare is a Jew who defended Dreyfus. And what to say about the testimony of Samuel Joseph Agnon Nobel Prize in Literature, interviewed by Israeli radio on his return from Stockholm, where he had just received the Nobel Prize for literature. He could said a lot of good of the Swedish Academy, but he hastened to add “I do not forget that it is forbidden to praise the Gentiles, but this time, my praise has a specific reason”: the fact that they had awarded the prize to a Jew. In the same way, it is forbidden to associate oneself with any popular rejoicing of the gentiles, except if this distant attitude risks to generate “hostility” towards the Jews, in which case it is allowed to express a “minimum” of joy. If a nobel prize for literature thinks so, what about the basic Jew completely immersed in his culture.

  103. @renfro

    What is it that irks you about Israel? If you were president how would you change things? As for $3.8 billion dollars a year for the next ten years the US has agreed to “give” them for military purhases, you do realize that the money is earmarked for buying American arms, so is actually as much a welfare program for our arms makers as a gift to Israel’s state budget. Israel’s military budget was $19.6 billion in 2017, the latest figure I found, 5 times the American aid, all for unproductive warfare material. Their sense of existential danger seems realistic based on being surrounded by hostile peoples.

    So what is it that irks you about Israel? What would you do to them if you could anything you wanted to? Would you rain atomic bombs on them so as to kill them all? Or some lesser measure?

  104. For Whites, it should always have been “Are the Jews good for us?” An answer might be found in their accumulation in their four aspects of White decline. Our opposition to this accumulation and its associated activities is perfectly logical, and morally necessary.

    This is why I don’t understand why many concern themselves with Israel and “zionists” only.
    Yeah, Israel does despicable and evil things, the core symptom is “jewishness” and “chosenitis” sickness.
    However, the main concern should be the Jewish enemies within the gates of the countries they control. Israel is just save haven for them, they don’t extradite the criminals.

    The main question is besides, “are the Jews good for us?” is, “what are we going to do about the Jews not in Israel?”, who promote the degeneracy, multicult, climate panic, criminalization of speech, and all forms of marxism.

    There can be only one solution, expel them to Israel, to the “jewish state”.
    Trying to address Israel involves the to get rid of the negative jewish influence outside Israel.

    The practical implementation would obviously raise questions, NS Germany tried to answer by acknowledging jewish law. Eg should Ron Unz be expelled as well? Can we trust Jews, given the historic track record of deception?
    The Israeli Jews have not ruined the US, the US Jews and their disloyalty have, same in Europe.

  105. ‘…And the German intellectual and artistic and journalist classes, as well as the liberals who had near total control of the Lutheran church, welcomed those ‘eastern’ Jews with open arms.

    I’m skeptical of that. It’s hardly conclusive, but consider Hitler’s description of his reaction to the Ostjuden he encountered in Vienna, as compared to his distant but tolerant response to the assimilated Jew he had been acquainted with in Linz.

    Most of the Jews who ‘flooded’ (still less than 1% of the total population) into Germany in the late nineteenth century weren’t from Eastern Europe in general so much as from those regions of Western Poland Prussia had annexed at the end of the Eighteenth Century. I’d guess they were a good deal more Westernized to begin with than the Hasids et al further east. Indeed, Prussia had already forcibly Westernized its Jews to some extent, requiring them to take Christian names, etc. Hence all the Berliners and Konigsbergers.

    So with German unification, these move into the rest of Germany — and may well have been tolerated. They were relatively tolerable.

    Such, at least, is my impression.

  106. Anon[433] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Carl Jung might say we are fighting against dark primal powers of the unconscious that we have failed to integrate.

    Unfortunately, people tend to project in the flesh what are primal psychic forces, and everyone has their pet race or group that represents these things.

    Nah. The Jews have explicit, extant designs for genocidal supremacism and non-Jewish hate. As anyone who reads your books is aware of. Your religion is one large supremacist occult practice.

    Acting like it isn’t, and trying to attribute the sane defensive reaction to it to some psycho-blather, merely impugns you further. Fighting against Jews is common sense survival, per the Jewish texts.

  107. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Kind of for the same reason we have the term Islamophobia.

    Because Jews come from all races.

    I would have no problem using the world Judeophobia, and that term was used somewhat in the 19th century. Although at this point in time, the rich historical associations make it more reasonable to keep the old term.

    At the time, though, a term that covered more ground that just racism was needed. Some people hate Jews for ethnic reasons, while others for cultural and religious reasons. Often, the motives are mixed and muddled, and the end result is hard to distinguish.

    So since hatred of Jews is a broad-spectrum phenomena, racism doesn’t cut it.

    Its the same thing with hatred of Muslims – there might be an ethnic component, and a cultural and religious one. So we have an extra word for it, not just racism.

    Doesn’t seem worth getting hung up on.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  108. @Wally

    Please let us know where Communism has been successful.

    How about PR China? At least it is defined as communist by most people and is no less successful than USA which is considered to be capitalist. Well, some here on UR call USA communist so I don’t know. I consider PR China capitalist mostly except in name. And where has National Socialism been successful? Oh I got it, Germany from about 1933 until 1939 but after that an abysmal failure, destroying all of Europe including Germany.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Germanicus
  109. RSDB says:
    @Talha

    Mostly everyone else does too, but nobody cares. Blacks get stuck with just plain “racism”– but the word refers to them more or less alone by now.

    There is anti-Polonism and Russophobia and Sinophobia– but, again, nobody outside the ethnic group in question cares about any of these, nor likely ever will.

    Also the Jews were the foreign race in Europe during the nineteenth century when the term was coined, so there’s some basis for its venerability.

  110. orionyx says:
    @advancedatheist

    Their female ancestry is European, their male ancestry is from Central Asia, with about 3% Eastern Mediterranean – less than most Cornish people.

  111. @renfro

    A Halachic Jew refers to a person whose maternal ancestors were Jewish. For example if my grandmother, the mother of my mother, was Jewish I am considered a Halachic Jew. This means that if I want to practice Judaism I can do it without having to undergo the process of conversion, and if I want to marry a Jewish woman then a rabbinical court will recognize my marriage as valid, and if I die in Israel or some other place where there is a Jewish diaspora I am supposed to be buried on the Jewish cemetery. This is it.

    In all other respects, a Halachic Jew is no different from a gentile. The rule of not drinking wine with gentiles applies to the practicing Jews and is a part of the set of rules meant to provide separation between them and other nations. A practicing Jew will not drink wine with a secular Jew for the very same reason.

    • Replies: @Alden
  112. @Sick of Orcs

    Have no time to answer to all of them. I choose those who are the most interesting.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  113. Ace says:
    @jING

    Useless ad hominem. How about the facts Joyce lays out? Spare me your thoughts on his “passion.”

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  114. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    What people should be opposed to are immoral ideologies like Darwinism and capitalism, and intellectual movements that destroy traditional morality and religion like the Enlightenment.

    It would be easy to say European whites are the worlds “essentially” evil people, the people who destroyed the beauty of the world, because they created and unleashed these forces on the world, creating tremendous ugliness and misery.

    And of course many, if not most, of the non-European world – and many of the most sensitive whites – have indeed come to that conclusion.

    But that would be as wrong and immoral – unintelligent – as blaming Jews or Muslims or blacks or whatever per race one has decided to use as a Scapegoat.

    These hideous truth and beauty destroying movements began among European whites and claimed them as their first and most total victims – no other people has succumbed so completely. Consequently, European whites are self-destructing at an alarming rate.

    The truth is no one is “responsible” for these movements – they are dark primal forces that are beyond anyone. And no one is immune. All of us have succumbed to some degree or other – whites merely most of all.

    Even though whites have a harder task than the rest of us in returning to health, as the people who succumbed most completely and the first ones to fall, none of us are exempt.

    Anytime that a Jew starts ranting against capitalism or Whites, or starts trying to imbue the White population with guilt as he voluntarily lives among them, grab your guns because genocide and a supremacist slave-state is on the horizon. As the Russians well-know.

    Remember that, as a result of being cast from Heaven, the Devil walks with a limp.

    Which is how you can identify him. As the Jews walk with their perpetual false-victimhood in order to justify their agitation for social degradation and their own supremacy that it helps facilitate.

    The highest Jewish religious method is to blame others for their sins, as they represent in their highest religious ritual of the year: the scapegoat sacrifice (the Azazel Goat) at Yom Kippur.

    There is no one less qualified to speak about scapegoating than a Jew, for whom scapegoating is the central part of the highest religious ritual on their highest religious day of the year:

    serving as a methodological example of and prescription for Jewish operation throughout the rest of the year.

    [MORE]

    http://www.ybt.org/essays/rchait/scapegoat.html

    SAAIR LEAZAZEL-THE SCAPE GOAT

    Rabbi Yisroel Chait

    The scapegoat is a very unique sacrifice. All other sacrifices require shechita and zerika which is the fulfillment of the sacrifice and reflects the presence of atonement. However, the scapegoat is brought to a desolate place and is brutally killed by being thrown over a precipice.

    (note: the Jews see non-Jewish Gods as demons, which is a supremacist mechanism along with their insistence that their god is the only god):

    The Israelites will no longer turn astray and sacrifice to the shaydim as the nations of the world

    The Medrash says that the children of Jacob give Samael, their prosecuting angel, a bribe on Yom Kippur. This bribe is the sacrificial goat. It is given so that he should not annul their sacrifices. The goat l’azazel has all the sins of the Children of Israel on its head as set out in the verses in the Torah.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoat#Ancient_Judaism

    The scapegoat was a goat that was designated (Hebrew: לַעֲזָאזֵֽל‎) la-‘aza’zeyl; “for absolute removal” (for symbolic removal of the people’s sins with the literal removal of the goat), and outcast in the desert as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement, that began during the Exodus with the original Tabernacle and continued through the times of the temples in Jerusalem.

    Manhar, Nurho de. The Zohar: Bereshith to Lekh Lekha

    At the rising of the moon in the early part of each month a goat is offered up as a supplementary sacrifice which the demon delighting in, cease for the time being from troubling Israel who is thus able to make its offerings in peace that bring them into closer relationship with their Lord and King. As a he-goat is what demons delight in

    This central religious practice of scapegoating, alone, discredits this Jews blame-game.

    As for your above screed: what a rancid, prototypical pack of anti-White lies by a Jew.

    My, the hate for White people that you have in your heart.

    Which wouldn’t be an issue if your people weren’t supremacist and hell-bent on living outside of your national borders for supremacist aims.

    https://biblehub.com/greek/1228.htm

    diabolos

    diábolos (from 1225 /diabállō, “to slander, accuse, defame”) – properly, a slanderer; a false accuser; unjustly criticizing to hurt

    diábolos) is literally someone who “casts through,” i.e. making charges that bring down (destroy). Satan is used by God in this plan – as a predictable wind-up toy, playing out his evil nature

    The Jewish prescription to slander as a means toward supremacy (one of, found in their texts):

    Psalm 69

    27Charge them with crime upon crime;

    do not let them share in your salvation.

    28May they be blotted out of the book of life

    and not be listed with the righteous.

    John 8

    44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

    http://opsopaus.com/OM/BA/PT/M14.html

    The English name “Devil” comes from Late Latin Diabolus, which derives from Greek Diabolos, which has the specific meaning “slanderer” (cf. Satan from Hebrew Shatan = Accuser; AHD s.v.). He is the source of diabole, which is Greek for slander, false accusation, whatever causes needless enmity and strife. Both derive from the verb diaballo, literally, to throw across (dia- + ballo), and hence to set at variance, or cause a quarrel, specifically by misrepresentation.

    As the agent of material creation, Hephaistos is linked with Plato’s Demiurge (demiourgos = maker), or Craftsman-god. In later Gnostic and Neoplatonic thought, which denigrated matter, the Demiurge became an evil god, akin to the Christian Devil, working to prevent people from rising to the spiritual heights. Indeed, the Cathars equated the Devil with the Demiurge

    Hephaistos is associated with Slander (Diobole)

    Hephaistos was thrown down from Olympus, some say by his mother when she saw his deformed legs, others say by Zeus because he defended Hera against Zeus, and that the fall crippled his legs (Gantz 74-5). In ancient art he was sometimes depicted with his feet turned backwards

    This story recalls the fallen angel Lucifer, who was thrown from heaven

    His name means “Light-bringer,” and, like Prometheus, he stole the fire of heaven (the Lumen Naturae or Light of Nature), but for his own aggrandizement (Gad 253). As chief of the demons, he is the origin of Pandaemonium, the same chaos, panic and disorientation instilled by Pan.

    Like the Devil himself, the thralls have animal legs to show that it is their bestial (instinctual) character that moves them (Nichols 266). Underworld spirits often have legs that are deformed or unusual in some way; it is the most reliable means of identifying them (Froud & Lee s.v. Dwarfs). Indeed, in folklore these spirits (Dwarfs, Trolls, Knockers, Koblernigh, Kobolds, Korred, Mound Folk, Orculli, etc.) are often subterranean smiths, which recalls the Hephaistoi or Children of Hephaistos, the mysterious smith-spirits of Mediterranean tradition (Kabeiroi or Cabiri, Kouretes or Curetes, Telkhines, Daktuloi or Dactyls).

    The backwards legs of Hephaistos reminds us that the crab was anciently described as being able to go backwards as well as forwards.

    Now recall my comment about the Devil walking with a limp.

    Hephaestus is the Mediterranean Devil cognate to the Jewish god YHWH, and possibly either the latter’s source or the result of his importation. As the Gnostics noted, he is the Demiurge and the Lord of matter and thus temptation (being a slave to the flesh), or everything below spirit. His Roman equivalent is Vulcan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus

    Hephaestus is the Greek god of blacksmiths, metalworking, carpenters, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors, metallurgy, fire, and volcanoes. Hephaestus’ Roman equivalent is Vulcan

    Jews themselves connect YHWH to Vulcan / Hephaistos (and by extension the Devil) and well as to the Edomites.

    Jewish God Yahweh Originated in Canaanite Vulcan, Says New Theory

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.MAGAZINE-jewish-god-yahweh-originated-in-canaanite-vulcan-says-new-theory-1.5992072

    That miners’ god was none other than the deity known by the four Hebrew letters YHWH
    Yahweh was a god of metallurgy in the ancient Canaanite pantheon, worshipped by smelters and metalworkers throughout the Levant, not just by the Hebrews

    The Bible itself may contain a memory of this southern origin of Yahweh, as it tells us explicitly that God “came from Teman” (Habbakuk 3:3) or that he “went out of Seir” and “marched out of Edom” (Judges 5:4-5) – all toponyms associated with the area ranging from Sinai to the Negev and northern Arabia.

    the Bible contains clues pointing to an original identity for Yahweh as a metallurgical deity, he says.
    In the Bible, Yahweh’s appearance is usually accompanied by volcanic-like phenomena.

    When he descends upon Mt. Sinai to reveal the Torah to the Jews, the mountain erupts in fire, spewing lava and billowing clouds accompanied by earthquakes and thunderstorms

    In antiquity, metallurgical deities like the Greek Hephaestus or his eponymous Roman equivalent, Vulcan, were associated with volcanic descriptions – which closely mirror the smoke, fire, black slag and molten red metal produced in the smelting process, Amzallag says.

    Archaeologists uncover remains of an Edomite copper production facility on the so-called Slaves’ Hill in Timna. The dark stones that cover most of the site are slag left over from the smelting process Ariel David

    Poetic metaphors throughout the Bible describe Yahweh as a fiery deity who makes the mountains smoke (Psalms 144:5) and melts them down (Isaiah 63:19b)

    18:18 Yahweh is depicted as anthropomorphized furnace: “smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.”

    Yahweh’s metallurgical attributes were also on display in the pillar of fire and smoke by which he guides the Hebrews in the desert (Exodus 13:21) and the cloud that accompanies his visits to the Tent of Meeting (Exodus 33:9-10), a simpler version of the Tabernacle in which Moses speaks face to face with God.

    Yahweh, god of the Edomites?

    But wait a minute – the Bible and most archaeologists agree that after the collapse of the Egyptian empire in the 12th century B.C.E., Timna was taken over by the Edomites, not the Israelites.

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-davidian-era-textiles-found-at-timna-1.5408868

    Jethro, Moses’ father-in-law, who lives near the mountain of God (alternatively called Horeb and Sinai).

    It is Jethro who indirectly leads Moses to his first meeting with Yahweh at the burning bush. And it is he who inaugurates the Tent of Meeting with a sacrifice

    But Moses’ father-in-law is not an Israelite: he is described alternatively as a Midianite priest (Exodus 3:1) and a Kenite (Judges 1:16).

    The Kenites, on the other hand, are a tribe descended from Cain and described as living among all the peoples of the Levant and specializing in crafts and metalworking, which, according to Amzallag, is further evidence that Yahweh’s first incarnation was as a smelting god.

    Kabbalistically, YHWH is symbol for the four elements: the most important Kabbalistic and esoteric concept for creation (all matter below spirit) and used widely in their “magical” workings. The four elements, below spirit, being representative of the domain of Hephaistos the Devil.

    The Jewish method of operation is to walk with a limp, as many claimed victims do, which is a traditionally primary sign and warning of the devil. The one thing that singles out the Jews is that, like the Devil, their limp never heals. Never trust a man with a limp.

    The Jewish modus operandi, long-noted and going back to biblical times and also being long-representative of the Devil, is to accuse and slander through misrepresentation as the Jewish press does and as as our very Jewish enemy does here.

  115. @Bert

    These facts have nothing to do with “economic behaviour,” the reason is that religious Jews cannot use contraceptions and are obliged to have as many children as God allows them to have. For the very same reason the Haredi Jewish population in Israel is growing 3-4 times faster that the population of the secular Jews.

    For example, this is considered normal for a practicing Jew to marry at the age of 18. He will have at least 8 children in the next 15 years or so. Some have 12. So here it is.

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Twodees Partain
  116. renfro says:
    @Anonymouse

    What is it that irks you about Israel? If you were president how would you change things?

    What irks me?….lets start with how the Jews used deception to get the US to support the creation of Israel to begin with. Then move on to how its is nothing but a midget Nazi state in violation of every international law regarding war crimes and occupation. Then wind up with how the parasites con and extort and steal billions out of the US. And are subversives , a literal hostile Fifth Column that infiltrates our government to get foreign policies that damage US just for the good of Israel.

    How would I change it if President? First thing I would gather the top nations leaders, including Russia and advise them that the US would no longer support Israel. Any who want to take the US place in support of Israel are welcome to do so but need to understand the US intends to end the Palestine occupation and Israel’s constant bombing of other ME countries.
    I would then have a second meeting with Russia to suggest they ‘equally cooperate;’ with US in putting an end to any ME country playing off the US and Russia against each other and urge a ‘mutual agreement ‘ on what are Russia’s interest and what are the US interest in the ME.
    I would then meet with US military command and advise them that I am giving Israel 60 days to remove all their settlers from the occupied territories back into the legal boundaries of Israel as set out in UN Res 181. If Israel refuses then the US military will undertake to peacefully remove them. Furthermore the US Navv will station aircraft carrier offshore to ensure the Israeli A/F does not put any planes in the air during this operation to strike Gaza or any other country in an effort to create any ME chaos that would interfere with the US campaign to end the Palestine-Israel conflict.
    I will not seek congressional approval and if threaten by Pro Israel politicians I will take to the bully pulpit and explains to the American people how the Palestine occupation and Israel-Palestine conflict is a ‘existential threat’ to the US and the world’s economic interest interest in the ME.
    Naturally all US financial aid and UN support of Israel is ended.
    What the US will give Israel is a unwritten agreement to come to its aid if attacked ‘for no reason’…meaning a attack that was ‘not provoked ‘ by either covert or overt Israeli actions.
    Israel will abide by all the requirements for its creation as set forth in UN Res 181…or it will not even get US help if it is attacked.
    This is fair and as close to justice as we can come to in Israel-Palestine.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    , @Sorrow Road
  117. Ace says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Did the mythical crown have mythical soldiers?

  118. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    It’s not hatred of jews that is prevalent, but the recognition, that as a group, jews are NOT our “friends” and are doing everything possible to eliminate our white “birthright”. This, by no means removes blame from the hasbara and evangelical elements of our society who elevate the jews above all others.

    On an individual basis, I don’t think that there are too many human beings that would hesitate to help other individual human beings in need. Helping other individual human beings in need is the right thing to do.

    If I see someone who needs assistance, I will not ask them whether they are jewish or any other ethnicity; I will offer help as needed. THAT is the HUMAN thing to do…

    By the same token, I (and many other white gentiles) realize that (collectively) jews ARE a “problem” and DO have the destruction of white gentile culture as their goal.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  119. Elsewhere says:
    @Bert

    I think your overall point stands, but I need to correct your math.

    Since growth is exponential, you need to take the logarithm of the ratio of new to old population size to find the growth rate. Comparing log(20,000) to log(6), we find that the growth rate for Ashkenazis is 5.5 times that of native Europeans. This is still a very significant difference.

    • Replies: @Bert
  120. Richard B says:
    @Sparky

    Treason Against Jewish Supremacy Inc. Is Loyalty To Humanity

    • Agree: mark green
  121. Richard B says:
    @advancedatheist

    Sigh. Not this again. Plenty of unambiguously white men promoted sexual freedom from the Enlightenment through the early 20th Century, from Voltaire to Percy Shelley to H.G. Wells to Bertrand Russell. Jews didn’t invent this project, though they joined it as it became mainstream and repurposed sexual freedom towards their goals.

    Sigh. Not this again.

    Like a pack of autistic children Jewish Supremacists zero in on one point, misrepresent it, call their misrepresentation “the truth” and use that “truth” to dismiss an idea, article, essay, book, etc.

    It’s the reason Jewish Supremacists have to control everything and abolish freedom of speech.

    Because it’s so easy to reduce their explanation of anything and everything to rubble.

    Not that that will have an impact on them. Of course not.

    But, it would most definitely have an impact on the many people they’ve been working tirelessly for ages to not only brainwash, but brainsoil.

    And now we’re back to why they need to control everything and abolish freedom of speech.

    As Schopenhauer once put it, and as Andrew Joyce’s excellent essay makes clear,

    Nothing about Judaism can be confused with Reason.

  122. renfro says:

    Sigal Mandelker, the Israeli in our Treasury Dept is out.

    Trump sanctions chief leaving administration: report | TheHill
    https://thehill.com › policy › international › global-trade-economy › 4640…
    1 hour ago – President Trump’s top sanctions chief will leave the administration for the … Sigal Mandelker, Treasury undersecretary for terrorism and financial … to hold a private sector position to allow her more time to spend with family,

    https://i2.wp.com/thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Screen-Shot-2019-08-31-at-7.24.14-PM.png?resize=845%2C450&ssl=1

    Meet the militantly pro-Israel Trump official directing the …
    https://thegrayzone.com › pro-israel-sigal-mandelker-fbi-americans-iran
    Sep 3, 2019 – As the Atlantic noted, Mandelker is “the one with her hand on the lever” of US sanctions…

  123. AaronB says:
    @anarchyst

    Ok, it makes sense to recognize Jews as a separate group with its own interests.

    But when you get into this Jews are genetically evolved to be the enemies of mankind and their religion is this program to destroy humanity, that you get into projection territory.

    Recognizing that Jewish interests may not overlap with yours may be a necessary part of returning to a sane and balanced view, but focusing on Jews too much is a distraction.

    The main things that have destroyed your traditional culture and traditional morality is the Enlightenment and ideologies like Darwinism.

    When you start thinking Jews destroyed your traditional culture, you’ve gone down the rabbit hole and are just looking for a Scapegoat.

    • Troll: renfro
  124. Bert says:
    @The Dark Night

    Religious proscription of contraception was also in effect for Catholics in the Middle Ages, so what you point to for Jews does not explain the difference in population growth. Child mortality among European peasants in the Middle Ages is believed to have been between 30 and 50%. It is mathematically impossible for the Ashkenazi population to have grown as fast as it did unless its child mortality rate was much lower than 30%.

    Nutrition was the factor most affecting child mortality in pre-modern times. American colonist families were twice as large as contemporaneous families in Britain because they were free to grow crops without landlords taking a portion. In Central and Eastern Europe of the Middle Ages the peasantry was at the mercy of the feudal lords and the Ashkenazi middlemen. The latter extracted enough wealth from the lower strata of the society to be able to support large families. Middlemen without competitors are in effect shakedown artists. Those Ashkenazi who had scruples (empathy for non-coethnics) could not have reproduced as fast as those who were unempathetic and therefore merciless. The evolutionary logic is clear. And it explains why the Ashkenazi that emigrated from Eastern Europe to the U.S. were emotionally capable of immediately beginning to undermine its cultural institutions.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
    , @Alden
  125. Bert says:
    @Elsewhere

    You are correct of course. I was trying to keep it more intuitive for those who don’t do math.

  126. @Jake

    And the German intellectual and artistic and journalist classes, as well as the liberals who had near total control of the Lutheran church, welcomed those ‘eastern’ Jews with open arms

    My assessment, that eastern Jews flooded German institutions to the dismay of native Germans, is based on an essay hot- linked under “flooding into newly unified Germany.”

    Jacob Raisin’s study of the Haskalah Movement describes Jewish movement in the same time-period, first, to secular learning, then to universities in Germany and Vienna
    The Haskalah Movement in Russia

    As described in the 1881 essay, patterns of German migration to USA support the notion that native Germans felt pressures to leave their homeland:

    wikipedia:

    The largest flow of German immigration to America occurred between 1820 and World War I, during which time nearly six million Germans immigrated to the United States. From 1840 to 1880, they were the largest group of immigrants. Following the Revolutions of 1848 in the German states, a wave of political refugees fled to America, who became known as Forty-Eighters. They included professionals, journalists, and politicians. Prominent Forty-Eighters included Carl Schurz and Henry Villard. **

    ** and the interrelated Brandeis-Wehle family, who are identified as among the “’48 ers” but who did not participate in the revolutions in Europe: they migrated to USA seeking economic opportunity

  127. Bert says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It seems that you have pretty well outlined the first immigration wave of Eastern European Ashkenazi back to Germany and its consequences on the Germans.

  128. Bert says:
    @Jake

    “And the vast majority of them hated and despised Slavs as racially inferior”

    The evolutionary origin of that hatred is what I am theorizing about. It is easier to exploit someone whom you hate or at least don’t empathize with. Within any society, that is how sociopaths function.

    “And the German intellectual and artistic and journalist classes, as well as the liberals who had near total control of the Lutheran church, welcomed those ‘eastern’ Jews with open arms”

    And so did American intellectuals. However, despite the initial welcome in Germany, lack of restraint by Jews soured the German populace on them. The same process is playing out in the U.S. today.

    • Replies: @jsigur
  129. baythoven says:
    @Wally

    So to sum up your “facts”: They tend to be sleazier.

    But how is this a strategy? It’s not. A strategy would be adamantly eschewing the very same anti-procreational policies that they foist on us, not eagerly engaging in them as well. For this reason, I find Mr. Joyce’s third chapter, The Culture of Sterility, to be far his weakest.

  130. jsigur says:

    tie all of this together, and none of this was random. Jews have ways of making certain industries trend probably through financial incentives. Probably much Jewish wealth goes to funding enterprises like these till they become viable on their own
    Has anyone noticed how TVs have come down in price and up in quality for the last 50 Years?. I am assuming that Jews know we don’t need this stuff and they want us to have it. TV is where most of the mind control programming goes out. Phones are a stepping stone to an inserted chip with the idea that when they decide to do it, most will go get in line the night before its available to be the first in their neighborhood
    Food housing, cars, skyrocketing – electronics? cheap- new stuff is cheaper than outdated stuff and that’s because everyone needs updated shit to implement the chip programming
    Jews get the goyim to pay for most things which leaves Jewish money to fill holes where its needed for their Jewish utopia NWO they’ve been putting into effect since Paul started preaching about Jewsus
    Your depressing essay makes one wonder why you keep trying
    ( I wonder when Jews are going to acknowledge the word “goyim” in Jewish spellcheck)

  131. The problem is not simply that jews pursue their own interests.

    The problem is that not only do jews pursue their own interests at the expense of the rest of humanity,

    jews also do their best to prevent other human groups from pursuing their interests.

    jews seek to reign supreme over the entire world, and seek to cause disunity for all other groups on earth.

    It’s really quite insane. In one sentence Barbara Lerner Spectre will announce that Europe “has to accept” replacement level immigration….in the next sentence she admits that jews will be blamed for the “transformation.”

    It’s absolute lunacy.

    The normal person listens to this nonsense and thinks, “What the hell is wrong with this crazy old witch?”

    • Replies: @jsigur
  132. jsigur says:
    @Bert

    the hatred is taught. we are all enemy-ized by the Jew this then removes the moral dilemma from Jewish brains doing Jewish subversion.
    We can see that in ourselves by the way TV programming teaches about the Russias, Syrians and Iranians, the next “Hitlers coming our way. Few Americans will have a problem with an invasion of Syria or Iran and probably Russia for that matter

    • Replies: @Bert
  133. jsigur says:
    @Kitty

    White elites have to be self interested or they will be eliminated from the privileged and that basically means never crossing lines Jews say not to cross The fallacy of communism is exposed when it leaves Jewish bankers alone in those causing trouble. Nothing deceitful about Communism if you understand only Jews are people

  134. @Logan

    It doesn’t seem to me to be “beyond human capabilities” to determine property ownership in Palestine in the post WWII decades, and by what means the property was transferred. It isn’t as though Israel was established in the 10th century and the chain of transfers is therefore hopelessly muddled. That isn’t the case.

    • Replies: @renfro
  135. jsigur says:
    @Robert Dolan

    you know she never explained why Europe must become multicultural to survive? I guess we’re just supposed to know why without asking

  136. @The Dark Night

    Maybe that’s what happened on that “anti-jew forum you mentioned, that is, unless you only recently lost interest in educating the heathen goy. Apparently, you just wanted to make the claim that jews aren’t allowed to explain themselves. When called upon to do just that, you don’t have time and are unwilling to answer anyone you don’t find interesting.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  137. Anon[577] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    But when you get into this Jews are genetically evolved to be the enemies of mankind and their religion is this program to destroy humanity, that you get into projection territory.

    Not at all. Recognizing evidence is sane. Ignoring it, for any reason, is insane.

    What you are essentially protesting against is any recognition of a hostile intent of sociopolitical Judaism, in spite of any evidence and in spite of it spanning a long time.

    Based on what? Your misuse of psychological terminology? Try again. There is too much on the line to be scared off by baseless Jewish labels, which lack support from a Jew who is expressly accusatory and therefore hostile to Whites.

    The Jewish texts directly express a goal to destroy all non-Jews, rule the World, and induce a form of slavery for any non-Jewish survivors. That’s a fact stated in the Jewish texts. Ignoring that fact, even given your baseless protest, is insane. We can get into quotes from the texts if you wish, using primary sources.

    Recognizing that Jewish interests may not overlap with yours

    Admitting that fact 100% means every one of you needs to be in your own completely Jewish nation, and out in ours. To live in the same nation with different political interests, as broad political groups, is counter to the idea of nations. Get going.

    but focusing on Jews too much is a distraction.

    How so? You and your Islamic golems are the primary groups in this world with publicly expressed genocidal, imperialist intent. All that you are whining about is that we begin to focus on Jews and therefore counter Jewish interests. Instead, you would rather we focus on distractions. No sale.

    When you start thinking Jews destroyed your traditional culture, you’ve gone down the rabbit hole and are just looking for a Scapegoat.

    Formal Jewish support for undermining our traditional culture as well as our national borders, down to the level of the Orthodox, is well documented. Denying it only outs you as a liar.

    No Jew can cite scapegoating with a straight face. The scapegoat mechanism is central to Judaism.

    Through attempting and failing to successfully claim victim-hood as a scapegoat you out yourself as the rankest of hypocrites and of liars. Which is completely in-line with historical claims about Jews. The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you is an old, but holding, piece of folk wisdom.

    See post 115 in this comments thread for further detail.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Poco
  138. @The Dark Night

    Very slick, Darkie. Bert stated that the Ashkenazi were able to feed large families because they had managed to gain economic advantage over their hosts, and you simply throw out a little pablum about large families being a tradition among jews. You didn’t even try to address Bert’s points.

    I suppose you don’t have time, and Bert just isn’t interesting. Is that about right?

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  139. @AaronB

    How do you explain Theodore Kaufmann?

    How do you explain Henry Morgenthau, Jr?

    How do you explain Elya Ehrenburg?

    How do you explain Erich Mendelsohn?

    How do you explain Bernard Baruch?

    How do you explain Louis Brandeis?

    How do you explain Rabbi Stephen Wise?

    Had these men been tried a la Nuremberg but even with a full measure of equity, vast documentation would have convicted them of some of the worst war crimes the world has known; they would have deservedly been hung by piano wire over a cess pool.

    But they are lauded by large swathes of the Jewish community.

    That indicts every Jew who not only turns his eyes away from their crimes but praises them and celebrates their “contributions to the Jewish people.”

  140. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Many Palestinesrefugees who fled have deeds to their former homes and lands that were issued in the Ottoman reign.
    There was a good documentary on this about a Palestine man who tried to claim his land by having a lawyer present the Israeli court with the deed. He was arrested for his effort and deported from Israel.
    Too much to get into now but example below.

    Ottoman-era deed saves Palestinian village in West Bank

    https://www.dailysabah.com › life › 2015/07/27 › ottoman-era-deed-saves-…

    Jul 27, 2015 –

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  141. this joke has gone too far

    There is nothing else to say or explain anymore its time to prepare for war and purge the parasite once and for all.

  142. @Lot

    “Ultimately Joyce is an eloquent dunce. He writes article after article about a group of people, but you’ll never find in them any type of science or demographic statistics. ”

    Speaking of dunces, here you are.

    Please tell me how easy it would be to get a research ethics board to approve research on Jewish ethnocentrism? For instance, I can just about guarantee you that Jewish applicants to law firms have a major advantage over non-Jewish ones. Which university would sanction a study examining this issue? Name one.

    You aren’t going to see ‘science statistics’ (whatever the hell that means) on such issues as these. Jewish interests make sure that controversial topics disappear.

    There are a few studies that slip through, including the one on ethnocentrism in peer review that found Jewish cliques (oddly enough, written by two Jewish professors at UW in Seattle). Any significant effort to study Jewish group strategies is going to be hammered pretty quickly.

    You don’t appear to have the requisite intelligence to debate this one.

  143. renfro says:

    Jews being Jews….

    Suicide Prevention Hotline’s Phone Number Is A Pro-Hitler Code, War Vet Claims September 23, 2019 By Marcy Oster
    A New York man wants the Federal Communications Commission to choose a different three-digit number to reach the national suicide prevention hotline because the proposed number glorifies Hitler.
    The proposed number is 988. The digits 88 are often used by neo-Nazis to refer to the phrase “Heil Hitler.” H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
    Charles Greinsky, a Jewish war veteran who lives in Staten Island, New York, is lobbying his congressman, Democratic Rep. Max Rose, and New York Sen. Charles Schumer to come up with and push through a different number, the New York Post reported

    Hasidic Jewish man sues Florida McDonald’s, claiming he
    https://www.nydailynews.com › news › national › ny-hasidic-mcdonalds-o…
    Jul 19, 2019 – The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is suing an Orlando-based McDonald’s franchise owner for allegedly refusing to

    [MORE]

    Conservative, Jewish American journalist is suing CAIR and

    https://www.jpost.com › Diaspora › Conservative-Jewish-American-journal…
    Apr 18, 2019 – Conservative, Jewish American journalist is suing CAIR and Twitter. Laura Loomer claims that her ban was issued by a request made by CAIR

    Jewish activist sues Corbyn for libel – The Jewish Chronicle
    https://www.thejc.com › news › uk-news › jeremy-corbyn-sued-by-jewish-…

    Jews Sue Ikea for failure to include a single woman in catalogue …
    https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East
    Feb 28, 2019 – Ikea is being sued for 4 million for publishing a special furniture catalogue for the local ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Israel that had no images of women and girls…or people at all. Jews say they are traumatized by the catalogue.

    Jewish teacher sues Montclair NJ schools for losing promotions
    https://www.northjersey.com › story › news › essex › montclair › 2019/09/13
    Sep 13, 2019 – A Jewish teacher at Montclair High School has sued the district, saying he lost promotions 10 times to younger, non-white females.

    Jewish Women Bring Lawsuit Against Charlottesville Neo-Nazis
    https://jewishjournal.com › analysis › jewish-women-bring-lawsuit-against-…
    Aug 14, 2019 – On the night of Aug. 11, 2017, hundreds of white supremacists descended on the streets of Charlottesville, Va., for a torchlit rally at the …

    2 Jewish cops sue Philly Police Department claiming anti
    https://www.inquirer.com › philly › news › crime › jewish-federal-lawsuit-…
    Nov 20, 2018 – Two Jewish police officers have filed a federal lawsuit against the Philadelphia Police Department claiming a pattern of anti-Semitism by

    Israel to officially demand $250 billion from Arab countries that …
    https://www.jns.org › israel-to-officially-demand-250-billion-from-arab-co…
    Jan 6, 2019 – Iraqi Jews leaving Lod airport in Israel on their way to the Ma’abara transit … Israel is preparing to sue Tunisia for $35 billion in lost assets and …

    Family alleges reporting antisemitism at Jeffco middle school …
    https://www.denverpost.com › jefferson-county-school-antisemitism-lawsuit
    Jan 31, 2019 – A middle-school girl and her father allege in a federal lawsuit that they … and harassed for being Jewish at West Jefferson Middle School during

    Jewish Larry Klayman, Sues Facebook, Zuckerberg Sued For $1 Billion After Not Removing a call to destroy Israel fast enough.
    https://techcrunch.com › 2011/04/01 › facebook-zuckerberg-sued-for-1-bi…
    Apr 1, 2011 – “Judgment Day will be brought upon us only once the Muslims have killed all of the Jews,” read the call.

    Jewish Customer suing New Jersey Costco after experiencing
    https://www.stamfordadvocate.com › news › article › Customer-suing-New…
    Sep 11, 2019 – Customer suing New Jersey Costco after experiencing ‘egregious anti-semitism

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @anon
  144. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    What are you talking about, silly comrade?

    – You say, as an example of a successful Communist state, “How about PR China?”

    – Then you say “I consider PR China capitalist”

    – Then you try to change to the subject to NS Germany, which as shown at the UR, did not “destroy all of Europe including Germany”. Please pay attention.

    You are confused.

  145. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Since reading Raphael’s speech several years ago, The Necessity of Anti-Semitism has, in a sense, haunted me too.

    The speech read the speech?

  146. Wally says:
    @Jake

    said:
    “And the vast majority of them hated and despised Slavs as racially inferior just like the Nazis and many other Germans.”

    Proof?

    None.

  147. Poco says:
    @Anon

    The jew depends upon the average American not really knowing exactly what judaism says or how it works. When faced with someone who does understand he becomes desperate to tell you that it doesn’t say what it explicitly does say. Then projects the evils of judaism upon the goy. He is defeated immediately by his lies about how moral he is towards the gentile. This Aaron guy is pissing into the wind here on this forum. We know.

  148. @Commentator Mike

    How about PR China?

    It is not precisely communism, if a bunch of family clans originating in the corrupt communist party divided up Chinese assets among themselves, and utterly control economy, military, intelligence, and hoard US debt aka dollar. Let alone who owns the Chinese central bank, the 5 pointed star should give a clue.

    Too much RT with their communism worship makes you dull as well.

    China is not becoming powerful because their “communism” works, but because of the treason by Jews and their war on their hosts in Europe and America, ie spying and technology transfer, in the same way they did it for the Soviets.

    Add to that, China is test lab of social engineering, 5G and AI, “social credits”.

  149. @renfro

    Israel to control all emergency calls

    Carbyne raises $15M for its next-gen 911 service, as Founders Fund invests in its first Israeli startup
    Ingrid [email protected] / 4:00 am EDT • August 14, 2018
    https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/14/carbyne-raises-15m-for-its-next-gen-911-service-as-founders-fund-invests-in-its-first-israeli-startup/

    Carbyne, a startup out of Israel that has developed a new emergency callout platform that helps providers pinpoint a callers’ exact location and enable other services to improve and speed up communication and response times — by some 65 percent on average — has raised $15 million in Series B funding.

    The round is significant not just because of the boost that it will give to Carbyne itself, but because of who is doing the backing. Led by Elsted Capital Partners, it also includes Founders Fund, the VC that has backed the likes of Facebook and Airbnb, but also startups that have made strong inroads into working with government and other public sector organizations on data-based services, such as Palantir, Anduril and Deep Mind (now a part of Google).

    Previous backers of Carbyne have included the former prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, who is also the company’s chairman, and the company has now raised about $24 million, with a valuation that I understand to be in the region of $100 million, although the company is not commenting on the number.

    https://carbyne911.com

    To Learn More About Carbyne’s Recent Move To NYC Click Here
    CARBYNE MOVES CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS TO NEW YORK TO BETTER SUPPORT RAPID GROWTH IN US AND LATIN AMERICAN MARKETS
    October 01, 2019
    Carbyne Moves Corporate Headquarters to New York to Better Support Rapid Growth in US and Latin American Markets

    Increasing Demand for Next-Generation 911 Technology, Partnerships With Major US Entities Behind Carbyne’s US Move. CEO and Founder Amir Elichai to Relocate to New York as a Key Part of This Transition.
    https://carbyne911.com/announcements/carbyne-moves-corporate-headquarters-to-new-york-to-better-support-rapid-growth-in-us-and-latin-american-markets/

    New York, New York, September 5, 2019 – Carbyne, a global leader in public safety communications, announced today it is relocating its headquarters from Israel to the US. The move is intended to better serve the growing demand for advanced 911 technology in the North American market, and to bring Carbyne closer to key partners such as Cisco, AWS, and Google as part of the company’s global expansion. The repositioning will also help the company better serve its rapidly growing client base in Latin America. In June of this year, Carbyne partnered with Google to provide AndroidTM ELS services to Emergency Command Centers throughout Mexico.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  150. @Germanicus

    you are american arent you?

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  151. @Lot

    Explain that to the millions that died in communism.

  152. @Germanicus

    I am really curious, why do people think China is also under Jewish control. You got anything I can read on this subject? This is completely new to me.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  153. @Aryan transhumanism

    No. I just pointed out the parasite that destroys the US, UK, France, it has destroyed my country too, and impoverished Russia and Eastern Europe, and always seeks to establish tyranny.

    I know what communism is, I lived in it, and had enough time to study its evilness.

  154. @Astuteobservor II

    I am really curious, why do people think China is also under Jewish control. You got anything I can read on this subject? This is completely new to me.

    How about Sassoon, a Rothschild branch, and the Opium wars, east India company?
    The east India company flag has much in common with the US inc (war) flag.
    The control was further solidified with Mao later.

    Same mechanism as in Europe, they disposed of the emperor, established banking beach heads, and brought communism and the destruction of heritage and culture.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  155. geokat62 says:

    From Zionist Report 4, Jewish Council for Public Affairs Visits Mexico-Arizona Border:

    Just another lobby advocating for open borders… how many of these lobbies are there by the way?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  156. @Germanicus

    See, those are claims which I would like to read about. Do you have any links?

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  157. @SolontoCroesus

    CARBYNE911: ISRAELI TECH SCHEME TO WEAPONIZE 911 E…
    TruNews

    correlates with

    David Goldman: Will China overtake the U.S. as the world’s leading superpower?
    Westminster Institute, McLean, Virginia

    Did Carbyne use the shootings at Parkland & perhaps elsewhere to test-drive their 911 system?

  158. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    “Looking for a scapegoat”? Not at all…
    It’s the JEWS…it’s always the JEWS…

    Our present situation and the devolving into the morass of “multiculturalism” and “diversity” is no accident. The jewish talmud and that jewish invention-communism has “rules” for the debasement and eventual elimination (genocide) of (white) civil society.

    I came of age during the first so-called “civil-rights” movement and saw for myself the underhanded dealings, the demonization of decent, law-abiding whites, and in general, the deterioration of civil society, spearheaded by leftist communist JEWS..

    Almost all of the “civil-rights” workers and demonstration “handlers” were of one persuasion–New York based leftist communist JEWS. They cared not one wit about true “civil rights”, but were there to create hate and discontent among their black charges (who were too stupid or naive to see that they were being used to suborn and destroy legitimate government and society–a favorite communist tactic).

    These New York-based “carpetbagger JEWS” fomented their hate and discontent, only to become future “civil-rights” attorneys, race-hustlers, and America-hating leftist communists…and the ADL and $PLC being invented.

    Those of us whites who were in the middle of this “civil-rights” revolution had a saying: “Behind every negro, there is a jew”. No truer words were spoken.

    Let’s not forget their infestation of the nation’s education and entertainment systems, (which continues to the present day), in which they can spread their jewish supremacist poison.

    The so-called “non-violent civil-rights demonstrations” were anything but “non-violent”. Robberies, rapes, and other criminal acts were common, but never reported, as even the “mainstream media” was “in on the game” and conveniently turned off their cameras during the acts of violence. You see, even then,”creating crises” was a part of the agenda.

    The “beginning of the end” of America was the use of federal troops against white Americans, which, in itself was a violation of “posse comitatus”–the prohibition on the use of federal troops for domestic “law enforcement” purposes. As most whites were (and still are) law-abiding, they (we) were “steamrollered” by the use of federal troops to crush honest dissent. We never recovered from those unconstitutional actions. It was all downhill from there…

    The next step may be “civil-war” in which us whites will have to take back our birthright by force.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  159. @renfro

    Exactly right, and thanks for the link.

  160. @Astuteobservor II

    Am I your nanny?
    You are unable to type in “Sassoon opium” on a search engine?
    Rothschild intermarried with Sassoon, a fact, the east India company is a fact.

    It is your task to find out more about these search terms, which I gave you.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  161. @alan

    Ashkenaz is Akkadian or Babylonian and refers to the Scythians and Cimmerians who came down through the Caucasus through the Darial pass in Georgia or the Bab al-Abwab at Derbent in what is now Chechnya to periodically invade Urartu, Mesopotamia and Egypt. Thus it refers to peoples north of the Caucasus mountain range and is related to the word Scythian itself.

    During the time of the Assyrian ascendancy (when the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Ten Tribes assimilated) Yahweh was out of favor with the Kings of Judah for being ineffective. In 626 Scythians from beyond the the Caucasus invaded, attacked Damascus and Egypt but, following the Via Maris did not attack Jerusalem. The Priesthood of Yahweh probably took credit for this and began a resurgence which produced the so-called “Josiah Reforms” and the Book of Deuteronomy in 621 BC. At this time Moses was first invented. But this resurgence, which was very aggressive, ended badly with defeat first at the hand of the Egyptians at Armageddon and then the Babylonians who destroyed the First Temple for good measure. The Babylonians exiled some Jews to Babylon to keep an eye on them. After Cyrus conquered the Babylonians, the exiled Jews were allowed to return, and Ezra was actually late on the scene, following a hundred years after Zerubbabel the Sadducee, who already opened the Second Temple franchise in 517 BC.

    Ezra, in an attempt to get his share, put his own spin on everything and called the setback and defeat by the Egyptians at Armageddon, and the subsequent Babylonian Captivity, the “Bondage in Egypt” episode and the return from Babylon, which was actually due to the liberal policies of Cyrus and the Persians, he called the “Exodus” from Egypt. Ezra wrote the Torah as his spin on history around 397 BC and introduced the Passover as complement to the Sheep sacrifice (which it replaced completely when the Second Temple was destroyed by the Romans). He also introduced living in Booths as a reminder of being nowhere without Ezra.

    Ashkenazi Jews are called Ashkenazi because they were one of these trans-Caucasus groups. In their case they were Turkic Khazars, who came from the East and dominated Ukraine and the Caucasus until they were finally subdued by the Viking Rus around 968. But around 728 they came under pressure from the Moslems. As a strategic measure they converted to Karaite Judaism around 732 in order to maintain independence from both Byzantines and Moslems. Then most, but not all, were converted a second time to Pharisee Judaism by firemen from Spain around 850, which is the so-called Obadiah reform. One of the incentives to become Pharisee rather than Karaite was they would be given a Jewish soul which they were told was worth a great deal (the Karaite one being Traif) and made into descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The story is in the account called “the Kuzari” meaning Khazars written in Toledo and attributed to Yehudah Halevi, an imaginary Sephardi superhero.

  162. AaronB says:
    @anarchyst

    You got me.

    The Jews were the first people to question traditional morality and traditional culture, not the Europeans.

    The Enlightenment attack on faith and tradition has nothing to do with our current situation.

    The Talmud is not the elucidation of religious principles, but actually a philosophical destruction of tradition based on rationalistic principles.

    Christianity and Western religion is based on the Greeks, and the rationalist attack on tradition is caused by the Jews.

    Its all true.

    All you have to do is eliminate the Jew and everything will be perfect for you and the world.

    • Replies: @Poco
  163. geokat62 says:

    ramzpaul, Would TP-USA Purge Jesus?

    “Conservative” TP USA purged Ashley St. Clair, a brand ambassador, for eating dinner with someone with the wrong political views.

  164. @AaronB

    Unfortunately, people tend to project in the flesh what are primal psychic forces, and everyone has their pet race or group that represents these things.
    -AaronB
    ——————————————————————————

    It couldn’t be that a rational person is disgusted watching a barbarian shitting in the streets. No. It must mean that the rational person is projecting.

    I advocate that people who are naturally virtuous, like Europeans, are rationally disgusted by other races.

    Ever watch Blacks line up for fried chicken on $2 Tuesday? They are all counting their change. They can’t pay the regular price because they had to get a car that made them look ‘cool’ to the otha bruthas. They often lease and can barely afford gas let alone insurance.

    Racial stereotypes exist for a reason. People from stupid cultures tend to be stupid people who re-create stupidity.

    This article correctly identifies a group of people who are universally disliked even despised for a reason. It has nothing to do with ‘projection’ but the simple fact that they are disgusting people with a disgusting culture who re-create the same disgusting culture wherever they go. Ask any Chinese who left China to do business in the world and is reasonably intelligent: ‘Hey, are you guys looking forward to millions of Jews moving to China?’

    The reaction you get is priceless.

  165. @geokat62

    SEPTEMBER 30, 2019
    Reverend Jim Wallis on Faith and Political Polarization
    Progressive evangelical leader Jim Wallis talked about his book, Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus, in which he argues that the United States is experiencing a political and religious crisis.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?464722-5/washington-journal-rev-jim-wallis-discusses-book-faith-political-polarization

    According to Wallis, the most significant manifestation of that crisis is “children separated from their families at the border.”
    “To be anti-immigrant is to be anti-Christ if we take Jesus seriously.”

    Wallis repeated that sentiment several times in his one-hour appearance on C Span Washington Journal. The word, “immigrant” was used at least a dozen times.

    Wallis made no mention whatsoever of Palestine and the children shot and killed by IDF, or imprisoned by the Jewish state; nor of the 30 Afghani pine nut farmers killed by US drones recently.
    No mention whatsoever of the hideous tactic of attempting to destabilize the Russian and Iranian economies through sanctions.

    Wallis’s only mention of the evil of war was in reference to the “war on black and brown people in the US.”

  166. Parfois1 says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Stalin conducted two purges, the final one after WW II, and I understand that the second purge was mostly complete when Stalin died.

    Agree generally with your comment, specifically with the West’s corrupt political establishment’s role in converting most countries into a Jewish fiefdom.

    Regarding Stalin’s drive to remove the leftover Jews from their elitist perch – for which he was maligned by international Jewry as an anti-semite – he started with the long-term strategy of imposing a quota system for all public institutions, mainly access to higher education.

    When he died he was working on a plan to create a new generation of public officials to replace the apparatchik old guard. His working model was the French Ecole Nationale d’Administration (of course with suitable adaptation to the Soviet system) which, when implemented. would be equivalente to another purge.

    Perhaps, had he lived a bit longer, the USSR would still be with us and the Neocons still in their ratholes.

  167. @Blake

    Thanks, Blake. The Ashkenazis are not Semites. You got that right. But they are not Europeans either. They are more like Martians, although technically they are just some kind of Turkic peoples. Do you and Alan work together as a team?

  168. @Wally

    Thank you, Wally, for that treasure trove of information that connects modern (((liberalism))) with the degenerative rise of in-your-face homosexuaity, unabashed paedophilia and militant queerness.

  169. @Germanicus

    Was hoping you would provide a base for which I would build on with my own search as this is completely new to me 😎. Don’t get angry so quickly.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Germanicus
  170. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @advancedatheist

    Abortion , contraception , sex education – all have a role to play in society for promotion of health, protection of life , understanding of physiology , demystifying the taboo, and achieving balanced love and sex in life .

    Voltaire, Shelley or Wells understood the fight against taboo ,inertia and avoidance of sex education , contraception and medically ethically necessary abortions in that light .

    Jews understood is as entry points for financial gain , for introducing debauchery , taking control of mass , manipulating organic basic human instinct , and turning the recreational abuse of the abortion as human right .

    • Replies: @Nico
  171. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blake

    Why do to need to know that ? What does it inform ?

    These quotes and assertions are unnecessarily misleading .

  172. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan

    “The “Palestinians” may have largely been present in what is now Israel when the Israelis started arriving, but they are certainly not the “original” inhabitants.

    The process of determining who the “valid rights-holders” is beyond human capabili”

    Palestinians were ready in 1948 to have a secular democratic binational state ( proposed to UN )

    In 1920 Palestinian leaders were ready to have Jewish moslem Christian inhabited one country

    Now in 2019, they want a state with full right .

    —- not all races are same , not all human , not all religions and not all liberation movements.

    Another difference is Jewish didn’t win They forced ‘win’ through contemporary powers , through corruption and bribery and blackmails .
    They didn’t win . They got other to fight for them .

  173. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    1864: Global trade tycoon David Sassoon dies – Jewish World – Haaretz – Israel News | Haaretz …
    Nov 7, 2012 · By the 1870s, David Sassoon had come to dominate the trade of opium to China, having pushed the British firm Jardine Matheson …
    Haaretz

    This day in Jewish history / Baghdadi Jews open Shanghai synagogue – Jewish World – Haaretz …
    Jan 23, 2013 · Named for Lady Rachel Sassoon, the late wife of Sir Jacob Elias … China and England, opium was their mainstay, and by 1871, they …
    Haaretz

    Passage from India – Haaretz – Israel News | Haaretz.com
    … Western Asia and then China, with trade in cotton goods, yarn and opium. … In 1861, Sassoon built the first Baghdadi synagogue – the Magen David …

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  174. @Astuteobservor II

    The topic of East India company is very complex.
    If you research it, you also come across the strawman(person), which is used to create money from thin air, which is ensured and dead, and you will find the US inc is a private corporation.

    The Prussian constitution prohibited the strawman, which is reason two world wars were fought against Germany.

    I am not a native english speaker, so I don’t have always links at hand in english, but there is very much good research out on the corporation nation.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  175. Another keeper for my library! The documentation alone warrants deep research and study – and fits nicely with the rest of my archive.
    The Unz Review has done some serious heavy lifting that few others can match – I truly appreciate it.
    As a former Christian Zionist, my only addition would be to note that when Jesus called the Pharisees the children of the father of lies, He wasn’t just using rhetoric.
    Furthermore, as a bible student, I have observed that Paul, himself a Jew, wrote in Ephesians 6:12 that we’re not dealing with flesh and blood enemies, but wicked spirits in high places.
    I bring this up because it is mind boggling to comprehend the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ as masterminded by one or a small cabal of human beings.
    There is much to this that we do not understand or comprehend – but it is real!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  176. FvS says:
    @Blake

    That must be why their homeland is in the Middle East.

    • Replies: @baythoven
  177. tac says:
    @renfro

    You need to make your search back into history wider, much wider.
    How has America, Russia (USSR), Europe been shaped over the last 150 years or so due to Jewish influence? Here is one such take:

    Introduction by Revilo P. Oliver: A CENTURY AGO, the Americans still had a country of their own, although they were admitting in droves the cunning enemies who were going to take it from them. They still had an educational system, as distinct from a machine to inculcate Marxist superstitions and the ignorance that goes with them. They had a number of large monthly magazines of literary quality, edited to standards that seem incredibly high today: Harper’s, Scribner’s, The Century, The Atlantic Monthly, The Pacific Monthly, The Forum, The Bookman, Lippincott’s, and their less viable imitators. And in those now far-off days, the solidly established periodicals for highly literate audiences could publish articles that did not have Kosher approval, and could sustain such covert pressures as the Jews were then able to exert on them. Truth was still an objective in high-quality journalism. And so it was possible for Americans to read such articles as the one reprinted below.
    […]
    The article is reprinted from The Century Magazine, Vol. XXIII, No. 6, April 1882.
    ———————————————-
    The Jews even used the ‘pogroms’ as justification for their stealthy capture of the Russian Empire in 1917-1918, and the massacres by which they began their rule of open terror over the population they had deluded and captured.

    We repeat — since an American of today will find it almost incredible — that this article was published in a major American periodical, widely circulated and highly esteemed, when our press had not been subjected to the stringent Jewish censorship that prevails today.
    […]
    Now, looking back along the line of ages, we find that no historical event recurs more surely, though at irregular intervals, than popular outbreaks against the Jews. Wherein lies the cause of this singular tenacious phenomenon? Historians are quick and ready with their answer: “In religious intolerance, with its attendant spirits of fanaticism and persecution and in the antagonism of race.” Such an explanation may pass muster for the ages of mediaeval darkness — but sweeping assertions seldom exhaust a subject, and this can be proved to be no exception to the rule. When the same phenomenon is reproduced periodically in our own time, under our eyes, and we are still told that “its only cause lies in religious intolerance and the spirit of persecution — more shame to our enlightened nineteenth century,” and when this is made the burden of a general hue and cry from the so-called progressive and liberal press of most countries, we become slightly skeptical, and desirous of looking into the matter for ourselves and more closely. We hope better things of our own time; we are familiar with it, being a part of it, and we know that its ruling spirit is not that of religious intolerance. We also know, from the teachings of modern philosophical school of history, that the popular mind and feeling, however abrupt and unreasonable their outward manifestations may be, are strictly logical in their development, and that the masses, when they appear to be swayed by nothing but caprice, or a sudden gust of passion, or at best by a blind and defective instinct, are in reality ruled by irresistible hidden currents of historical life, not the less powerful because they act at great depths below the surface. To dive into those depths, to reach those currents, to ascertain their direction and force, is the task of the inquirer. Sometimes chance steps in, and by the discovery of some unexpected clew lightens the task. It so happens that such a clew, in this particular case, has been offered by a rather peculiar combination of circumstances in Russia several years ago, and the interest in the subject has been strongly and somewhat painfully revived by the widespread tumultuous occurrences of the last twelve months or so, it is surely worthy of a few moments’ serious attention, under the guidance of these revelations, which, though they concern specially the condition, power, and act of the Russian Jews, will be found to possess more than strictly local importance. A convenient introduction is afforded us by the general rising against the Jews which took place last spring throughout the south-west of Russia, and of which scarcely more than a bare mention was transmitted at the time to this country.

  178. @anon

    But that provides nothing about how the Jews were controlling Mao or is controlling China now. Just details how that family made its fortune through opium and such.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @anon
  179. @Germanicus

    I wouldn’t mind some links in German if you have it. Machine translation has gotten OK in recent years.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  180. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Israel’s embassy in Belgium on Tuesday condemned a hook-nosed gesture in a Belgian university’s sign-language dictionary that refers to “Jews.”

    “The Embassy of #Israel expresses its shock and dismay following the ugly initiative of creating a new sign in Flemish sign language for ‘Jew’: a hooked nose. Its sole purpose is the promotion of #AntiSemitic stereotypes,” the embassy wrote on Twitter alongside a Times of Israel report on the gesture.

    Times of Israel
    18 th Sept 2019

    Should we get rid of the word J or should we stop teaching how to write J

  181. wayfarer says:
    @Crush Limbraw

    Furthermore, as a bible student, I have observed that Paul, himself a Jew, wrote in Ephesians 6:12 that we’re not dealing with flesh and blood enemies, but wicked spirits in high places.

    You may want to check out the esoteric site L/L Research, for some arcane insights into the spiritual/extraterrestrial nature of this cosmic conflict.

    https://www.llresearch.org/
    https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/default.aspx

  182. Parfois1 says:
    @Wally

    Please let us know where Communism has been successful.
    ……
    I surmise that your version of capitalism” is not really capitalism in a free market.

    You could try to be consistent … as you are about your professed allegiance to Fascism.

    About Communism not being “successful” yet, we are not at the “end of History” phase as the Neocons declared. Although I’m not a follower of deterministic Marxism, the rational in me says that Communism may offer the best alternative for the survival of the human species.

    Communism has not yet been tried. What we have had so far is a taste of Socialism in some countries ran by communist parties and none of those countries have gone past that preliminary stage. Maybe Marx was right in suggesting that the conditions for the transition from Capitalism to Communism had not yet been reached in those countries and that the Russian experience proves that point. Communism is not only a political and economic ideology but a social one as well as it requires the individual person to think and behave as a social being, not a predator.

    By the same token, Capitalism has not been successful either in spite of hundred of years of practice.
    Your “free market Capitalism” (supposedly the epitome of true Capitalism) has not been achieved and is not likely to ever be achieved because it requires a State for its protection (laws, police, military), to extract taxes from the common people, to enforce conformity (schools) and public services. Remove the State and Capitalism crumbles.

    Compare that to the Communist ultimate aim: the demise of the State.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  183. Poco says:
    @AaronB

    “The Jews were the first people to question traditional morality and traditional culture, not the Europeans.”

    We have license to question our traditional morality and culture. You don’t. Question your own and trash it.

    “The Enlightenment attack on faith and tradition has nothing to do with our current situation.”

    Correct. Our current situation is outlined by the preceding article.

    “The Talmud is not the elucidation of religious principles, but actually a philosophical destruction of tradition based on rationalistic principles.”

    Incorrect. The talmud is the elucidation of a religious supremacist philosophy based on irrational hatred of non jews.

    “Christianity and Western religion is based on the Greeks, and the rationalist attack on tradition is caused by the Jews.”

    Incorrect. The jews use irrational interpretations of the enlightenment to attack Christianity and Western religion. Apply your critiques to your own culture and religion. Get your schnozz out of ours.

  184. @Parfois1

    “Communism has not been tried.”

    Fuck you.

    marxists slaughtered over 100 million innocent people in the 20th century.

    commies wrecked Russia, Germany, Korea, Vietnam, China, Poland, Hungary, Cuba, Ethiopia, Venezuela, etc.

    Hasn’t been tried.

    You do know that idiotic phrase is a meme, right?

    communism is jewish internationalism, which means torture, gulags, and LOTS of dead people.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  185. Parfois1 says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    I suppose you got the drift, hence the insistence. There are many outlandish Chinese whispers doing the rounds here about communists being freemasons and Zionist agents and similar inanities. One of the tell-tale signs is their propensity to play with their belly-button with the right hand.

  186. look in the mirror, you will see your main problem. when all you care about is dominating and ruling the world, you are bound to make a pact even with the devil (ruler of this world), let alone with clever people who reject the true Light. ye shall reap what ye sow, you must choose wisely. i force myself to send you this brief for there is a fellow human underneath the white skin. think of the soul, not the flesh and its needs. those who deny God, will end up worshipping anything or anybody.
    God be with you!

  187. @Astuteobservor II

    Just details how that family made its fortune through opium and such.

    How you phrase your little sentences, is the reason I don’t play your stupid game you offer. I have a knack for detail.
    If you get a source, it won’t meet your artificially high expectations, and you try to brush over the “just details”.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  188. @Anonymouse

    ‘…So what is it that irks you about Israel? What would you do to them if you could anything you wanted to? Would you rain atomic bombs on them so as to kill them all? Or some lesser measure?’

    Just pulling the plug should prove entirely sufficient.

  189. utu says:

    El Novio de la Muerte

    “soy un novio de la muerte”

  190. @AaronB

    ‘For my part, I don’t think people should hate Jews, I don’t think people should hate whites, and I don’t think people should hate Muslims.

    What people should be opposed to are immoral ideologies like Darwinism and capitalism, and intellectual movements that destroy traditional morality and religion like the Enlightenment.

    It would be easy to say European whites are the worlds “essentially” evil people, the people who destroyed the beauty of the world, because they created and unleashed these forces on the world, creating tremendous ugliness and misery…’

    This has no sane connection to reality.

    Worse, the person denouncing Darwinism (a scientific theory, and a valid one), and capitalism (an economic system, and a better one than the alternatives) as ‘immoral ideologies’ — when they are not ideologies at all — is himself an advocate of Zionism, which actually is an ideology, and an immoral one to boot.’

    As to the ‘beauty of the world’ absent white people, would you be referring to mass human sacrifice in pre-Columbian America, or judicial torture in China? Radical clitorectomies in Sub-saharan Africa? Which of these do you find the most beautiful? Or is it the entrancing vision of a world without light, without modern medicine, without classical music or European painting that appeals?

    Try to be specific, Aaron. Let’s define this beauty. Obviously, in your view, it excludes the cathedral, the nineteenth century novel, people having some reasonable prospect of living long lives in good health — but what does it include?

    • Replies: @Bert
  191. @AaronB

    ‘For my part, I don’t think people should hate Jews, I don’t think people should hate whites, and I don’t think people should hate Muslims.

    What people should be opposed to are immoral ideologies like Darwinism and capitalism, and intellectual movements that destroy traditional morality and religion like the Enlightenment.

    It would be easy to say European whites are the worlds “essentially” evil people, the people who destroyed the beauty of the world, because they created and unleashed these forces on the world, creating tremendous ugliness and misery…

    There’s a further irony here. You say you don’t think people should hate Jews…that is to say, you object to anti-semitism. Well, so far, so good. Who wants to be hated?

    Yet you then proceed to immediately justify that classic anti-semitic trope; the Jew as the critic and enemy of European white civilization. After all, it is your statement that is is European whites who have ‘destroyed the beauty of the world…creating tremendous ugliness and misery…’

    You define us as the bane of humanity. Yet evidently, you don’t feel the sentiment should be reciprocated. That would be unfair.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  192. JIng says:
    @jhan

    It’s worse than that. All that Twitter abuse before the election, the Daily Shoah and Daily Stormer, Paul Nehlen and all the rest of that led directly to the no-platforming and censorship of almost all voices on the Right. It is Pure Stupidity as a tactic. And people keep doing it over and over and over again. Joyce could write about some of the same ideas but tone it all down, focus a bit to the side, and maybe even have a real job. But he can’t, because at heart he’s a fanatic, probably a murderous, remorseless one if he could bring himself to act. Instead he just goads on the eventual idiot synagogue shooter. Any everyone on the far right just looks crazier and stupider.

    This isn’t going to end well. And don’t think Jews are scared. Do you think the Mossad bothers to argue with people on blogs? If and when they ever consider anyone a real threat, rather than an opportunity to exploit, we know what will happen.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  193. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    The Sasson family changed the economy of northern India . It infiltrated multiple aspects of British Indian
    administration . The loot and the profit from opium and cotton led to local misery , depopulation , destruction of Indian economy and enriching of British

    This massive project based on force , corruption , destruction, and introduction of alien choices to local population earned Sassoon various British titles , peerage , and access to British Royals and finances .

    From 1800 to 1917- all the wars British fought came from revenue made from Opium .
    Sassoon was thrown out of Iraq ‘s court. Through drug in India , he made it to British court .

    He destroyed Chinese economy . He was more involved with Chiang Kaeishek than he was with Mao
    Mao destroyed the business . Drug business moved to Burma Chinese border after 1949

    There is still a monument in Shanghai dedicated to drug problem drug related death and the destruction that it caused . There the name Sasson is invoked with hatred and pity . He was a scoundrel and he polluted this world . HSBC bank was started ( name was different ) to make the drug money white . There was no other purpose . It was British Hongkong institution invented to launder money.

  194. Marcus says:
    @advancedatheist

    Also Kinsey and Money, though Jewish overrepresentation in early ponography is staggering, so perhaps they do deserve more “credit”

  195. @JIng

    The jews are shitting their pants.

    Why do you think they are shutting everything down?

    Why do you think they are trying to take the guns?

    Why do you think Schiff and Nadler are telling lies to remove Trump/Hitler?

    The Stormer and the Shoah and Nehlen blew up and educated millions of whites.

    The strategy of using humor and telling the truth always wins, and that’s why the jews will lose.

    If they don’t care about dissent then why do are they trying to shut down every bit of dissent they can find?

    Your comment is silly. Joyce is far more intelligent than you are.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @JIng
    , @Marcus
  196. @Robert Dolan

    Agree completely, anyone who doubts this should read The Protocols of Zion.

  197. JIng says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Then ask yourself why anybody with a name or reputation to protect is constantly running away from these types, not towards them. Do you think the public is more or less favorably inclined towards “the alt right” now or before?

    Everybody gets besmirched by idiotic fanatical jew hating. Jews themselves don’t care as it just leads to sympathy and more pro-Israel charitable donations plus new Zionist immigrants.

    Jews aren’t going to let themselves be shoahed again, like it or not, NS toadies.

    The reason violence isn’t used is because it isn’t necessary to use it.

  198. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    on the topic, The Necessity of Anti-Semitism:

    HSBC bank was started ( name was different ) to make the drug money white . There was no other purpose . It was British Hongkong institution invented to launder money.

    Stuart A. Levey was the first Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence within the United States Department of the Treasury. . . .
    He was succeeded by David S. Cohen [Levey’s former law partner, who was in turn succeeded by Adam Szubin, then by just-resigned/fired Sigal Mandelker].
    In January 2012, Levey joined HSBC as the bank’s Chief Legal Officer.

  199. Marcus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Nehlen certainly did blow up a promising campaign to associate with TRS-tier dregs and funnel campaign contributions to his Mexican wife

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  200. @JIng

    ‘…Jews aren’t going to let themselves be shoahed again, like it or not, NS toadies.’

    Then why have half of them packed themselves into a narrow strip of semi-desert and set about humiliating and provoking everyone within a thousand miles?

    Can’t one judge someone’s intent by their actions?

  201. @JIng

    Don’t kid yourself, douche.

    More and more people are waking up everyday, and they are not “sympathetic” to jewing.

    jews can’t be “shoahed again” since the narrative regarding WWII is total bullshit to start with.

    You are quite the delusional little prick.

    Whack a mole isn’t going to work because the numbers are too big.

    No…..the truth has a way of leaking out, and the truth is NOT good for the jews.

    Your plea is false, stupid, and transparent, “Stop talking about what the jews are doing! Nobody wants to hear it! It’s bad!”

    Oh sure, that’ll work.

    You might wanna go back to the drawing board.

    Smug arrogance is not helping your case by the way.

    • Replies: @JIng
    , @Oracle
  202. @Marcus

    Nehlen and the guys at TRS are better men than you will ever be.

    They speak the truth unflinchingly.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  203. @JIng

    “The reason violence isn’t necessary because it isn’t necessary to use it.”

    Antifa has been using violence against whites for YEARS.

    The jews have used the violent police state against white people for YEARS.

    WTF are you talking about?

  204. @Germanicus

    No games. I am genuinely curious. The articles and wiki details how the Sassoons made their money through opium trade and cotton.

    Where is the connection to controlling China? I read through all of the links I found, nothing came out.

    Are the sassoons still operating in China? That would lend a huge boost to your claims.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  205. @anon

    Now the million dollar question, are they still operating in China? Aren’t they universally hated in China?

  206. Marcus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I’ll never be as good at grifting as Nehlen is, I’ll give you that
    https://fox6now.com/2018/04/18/paul-nehlens-wife-made-37000-from-his-congressional-campaign/

    Idk what this is thing is on the left, but it’s definitely not a man

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  207. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yet you then proceed to immediately justify that classic anti-semitic trope; the Jew as the critic and enemy of European white civilization

    Actually, I am a critic and enemy of that aspect of European civilization that undermines traditional European morality and culture – the Enlightenment.

    That makes me a friend to traditional European civilization, and only an enemy to the recent culture-dissolving forces that emerged in Europe and are leading to its demise.

    This makes me a classic Romantic critic of the Enlightenment, as well as science and technology. There is nothing original in what I say, and the intellectual movement I follow was created by gentile whites.

    As for the trope of Jewish criticism of traditional European culture and morality, those Jews who do so are merely following another white European created intellectual movement, the Enlightenment.

    Right wing anti-Semites project the tradition-destroying European Enlightenment onto Jews because they lack accept their own Shadow.

    In reality, Jews in Western civilization function entirely within white created thought systems, on either side – at best, helping develop latent implications, or helping lead preexisting trends.

    Jewish created culture itself is entirely religious in nature, and has nothing to contribute to the modern debate – it can only offer an alternative to modernity.

    You define us as the bane of humanity. Yet evidently, you don’t feel the sentiment should be reciprocated. That would be unfair.

    I was careful to distinguish white people from certain extremely pernicious philosophies that emerged among them. These philosophies are the bane of humanity, including white humanity. Perhaps foremost white humanity.

    Through some crack in the European psyche, these dark forces of the human collective unconscious broke through to spread chaos and disorder across the world. Europeans are victims as well, and are paying the heaviest price.

    White people as such are certainly not the bane of the world. They certainly did not genetically evolve to destroy beauty and love, a la MacDonald with Jews. And for most of history they had a beautiful traditional culture like everyone.

    However, in the centuries following the Renaissance, white Europeans certainly were involved in wars against literally all of mankind, and their philosophies literally destroyed beauty across the world. But this isn’t the “essence” of white people.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  208. Bert says:
    @jsigur

    I have been arguing that the occupations of the Ashkenazi in Eastern Europe (e.g., tavern keeper, pawnbroker, tax farmer) created the opportunity for genetically-based negative ethnocentrism to evolve among the Ashkenazi. And that such negative ethnocentrism was the cause of the rapid demographic expansion of the Ashkenazi, as well as of native European anti-semitism of course, per MacDonald.

    A cultural tradition of teaching young Ashkenazi to see Slavs as economic prey could go hand in hand with genetically-based negative ethnocentrism, and lead to young Ashkenazi becoming genetically more and more receptive to such teaching. In songbirds, a nestling learns its species-specific song from hearing its father sing. In experiments on nestlings, substituting a different species’s song does not result in the nestling learning well. https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/the-development-of-birdsong-16133266/ Members of a species are genetically programmed to learn their own species’ song more easily than the song of other species. Both genetic propensity and learning are involved.

    So I would expect that not only did negative ethnocentrism evolve, but also natural selection favored young Ashkenazi who most readily accepted teaching from their parents which portrayed goyim as lesser beings.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  209. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well said. But he’ll never give a coherent answer.

  210. @AaronB

    ‘…Through some crack in the European psyche, these dark forces of the human collective unconscious broke through to spread chaos and disorder across the world. Europeans are victims as well, and are paying the heaviest price…’

    Lol (well, I certainly cracked a smile). You’re starting to move from irritating to entertaining, Aaron.

    …and the kicker is that I suspect absolutely none of this is sincerely felt. Out of some convoluted calculation, you’re manufacturing it all.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @AaronB
  211. Welshman says:

    Does this mean that I have to stop listening to Andrew Klavan?

  212. @advancedatheist

    1 thess 2: For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own coutrymen, even as they have from the Jews, [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

    Take your reflexive gainsaying to The Holy Ghost.

    The Messias-Denier is the enemy, not the christian

  213. @Astuteobservor II

    Are the sassoons still operating in China? That would lend a huge boost to your claims.

    Why don’t you find out yourself?
    I stated that Sassoon married into Rothschild, which is an easily verifiable fact.
    Full control over China came with the communists, who soon developed into a counter balance to the Soviets. They came close to full scale nuclear war in the 1970ies, due to ideological disagreements, which is approximately the time the jewish grip on the Soviet Union weakened, and many Jews enjoyed the privilege to leave the Soviet empire to the US, Israel, UK mainly.

    I am not at a competition to prove anything to you, and I also don’t require whatever boost you imagine by giving your sanctification.
    You asked questions, I gave you a few start terms to explore.

    Wherever the 5 pointed star is on a flag or military vehicles, it is worth to do some research.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  214. @Marcus

    Of course they smeared him because he’s a “vicious anti-semite.”

    Politicians on the left constantly find ways to employ and pay family members, and the Obama’s took advantage bigtime. This is nothing new.

    I don’t care if his wife worked on his campaign and got paid.

    Nehlen goofed when he could not gauge how the redpill was impacting his life.

    So I would agree that he failed and it’s sad because he’s a very smart and informed individual.

    On the other hand, he spoke the truth as it was revealed to him, and he has massive balls.

    Our people have their hands tied and they are beaten down for the silliest of transgressions. Poor Steve King isn’t even allowed to defend western civilization, while at the same time he cucks for Israel.

    No…..the issue isn’t that our guys are mean and they say bad things about the jews; our guys speak the truth and are then crucified by the relentless hateful psychotic paranoid lying jews.

  215. @Shlomo

    [Too many overly long and somewhat off-topic quotations.]

  216. utu says:
    @Colin Wright

    “none of this is sincerely felt” – Sadly this seems to be the case. I have observed several metamorphoses of AaronB, where each of his persona retained the same invariant which was the anti-Western and anti-Christian thinly veiled animus. In his most recent incarnation he shed the veil and shown his full blown Jewish supremacist face. Yet I still have a soft spot for him though his brazen Jewish chutzpah of lies into your face can be infuriating. But lack of shame is a common Jewish trait from which I believe they can be cured.

  217. @Colin Wright

    ‘…Only somewhere around two-tenths of humanity is Jewish.’

    For ‘two-tenths,’ read ‘two tenths of one percent.’

  218. @Germanicus

    You are extremely hostile to inquiries regarding your claims. The biggest claim is that the Jews control the Chinese CCP. Yes, sassoon made their money through the opium trade, but how did they go from that to controlling the CCP? How?

    Why are you behaving like this?

    Of course you reserve the right to not answer my questions for more info. no one can force you. But then why would anyone care about your comments if you act this way?

    Your comments showed intelligence, which was why I was hoping for more.

    And let’s end this, I am 100% sure I would get nothing out of this. Too bad, I was hoping for some good weekend reading.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Germanicus
  219. @renfro

    Renfro writes
    What irks me?….lets start with how the Jews used deception to get the US to support the creation of Israel to begin with. Then move on to how its is nothing but a midget Nazi state in violation of every international law regarding war crimes and occupation. Then wind up with how the parasites con and extort and steal billions out of the US. And are subversives , a literal hostile Fifth Column that infiltrates our government to get foreign policies that damage US just for the good of Israel.

    I feel bound in duty to point out that Renfro is disseminating lies in his comment. The US did not support the creation of Israel to begin with. The Zionists jews with their armed underground armies (there were 3 armed Zionist groups in Israel) decided to make the British occupation of Palestine so difficult and costly that the Brits would abandon their trusteeship over Palestine, the Brits being quite broke after WW II. That the Zionists did and the Brits set a date (May 15 1948) when they would be leaving and turned over t0 the UN the question of deciding what would happen to Palestine when the Brits left. The UN in Nov. 1947 voted to partition Palestine into 2 parts. The Zionists accepted the UN decision. The Arabs did not and went to war to take all of Palestine. They lost a hard fought war in which the Zionists, now Israelis, lost over 5000 dead in a total population of about 450,000. The Israelis fought off the Arabs with a ragtag collection of arms, purchased from whomever, improvised mortars, Piper Cubs, a few surplus British Spitfires and German Messerschmitt Bf 109s. Only the Czechs would sell them small arms. So Renfro is simply misinformed regarding his first thesis.

    Renfro will not change his mind. Others reading what I write here who are not already totally set in their opinions may perhaps look further into the actual history of Israel since 1948. As I said above, American arms aid to Israel is about 1/5 of their military budget and is essentially a welfare program for American arms manufacturers for all the aid is earmarked for buying American arms.

    As for their genocide of the Palestinians, that is a preposterous accusation, for Arab Palestinians make up 20% of the population of Israel, and the population of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip has grown considerably in the 70 years of Israel’s existence.

    The Israeli settlement in the West Bank, numbering around 500,000, excluding East Jerusalem, commenced after the 1967 Six Day war. The religious took the victory as a sign from God that jews should return to where they lived in biblical days. Many, perhaps a majority of Israelis consider the settler movement a pain in the ass, not that they can do anything about it, for it is a fait accompli. It should not be overlooked that historically, way back in the late 19th century, the Zionist platform spoke of Israel from the sea to the river (Jordan river). Which is the position of mainstream Palestinian opinion today: Palestine from the sea to the river. Why is the armchair social justice warriro Renfro so hot for Palestinians?

    As for Israelis/jews running the American government, the so-called ZOA, I would say that they exercise considerable influence because of the Benjamins, but to imagine that a cabal of jews is covertly running everything, the proof being that they do it convertly seems an error of circularity.

  220. baythoven says:
    @FvS

    That is a most interesting chart. Could you provide an accompanying link? In particular, I would like to understand what those two components define.

  221. SamW says:

    I read this and I want to say “Not all Jews”. Look at ultra-Orthodox, like the Satmar of Kiryas Joel, New York. They have no involvement or interest in promoting Islamic immigration or transgenderism. They aren’t perfect, of course, if you lived in that part of New York you’d have good reasons to be upset by their bloc voting and geographic expansionism. But, I don’t think they have any interest in changing our culture, they just want to keep to their own kind and lobby for concrete things that benefit their community. The problems they cause are local, not national/global. The pushing of all things LGBT, feminism, mass immigration, etc, is done by those at the more “progressive” end of Judaism-seculars, Reform, Reconstructionist, Conservative/Masorti, even (but to a somewhat lesser degree) Modern Orthodox-but the ultra-Orthodox Traditionalists aren’t involved in that stuff, and even despise it.

    Jews have their own demographic crisis, but only at the “progressive” end that causes the most trouble, who are shrinking due to low birth rate, intermarriage and assimilation. The ultra-Orthodox who are much more inclined to keep to themselves are booming. So the Jewry of the future may behave differently from the Jewry of today.

    • Replies: @Anon
  222. @Bert

    ‘…A cultural tradition of teaching young Ashkenazi to see Slavs as economic prey could go hand in hand with genetically-based negative ethnocentrism, and lead to young Ashkenazi becoming genetically more and more receptive to such teaching…’

    I find it improbable that ‘negative ethnocentrism’ could be genetically determined.

    On the other hand, it could easily be culturally determined, and seems to be. Jews are hardly the only example of a group that tends to exclude and exploit outsiders while cooperating with each other; just about every ethnicity does this to some extent.

    However, such a trait can be either exaggerated or ameliorated according to the environment. Armenians, for example, can be almost fantastically clannish and hostile towards outsiders; not, perhaps because of anything inherent in Armenians, but because of their recent history.

    To return to Jews, in America they are very often are quite open and ‘color-blind’ in how they treat gentiles — not always, but perhaps as much as most of us are. Go see a Jewish doctor, and my betting is he’ll give you the same level of care whether you’re Jewish or gentile, black or white.

    On the other hand, in Israel, Jews have become almost fantastically hostile, manipulative, and exploitative towards the rest of humanity, and it only seems to be getting worse with the passage of time. It all sometimes reminds me of the Nazi episode for Germans. It’s not that Germans are particularly bad; but Nazism did create an environment that displayed their various cultural traits in the worst possible way. In Israel, we have an anti-semite’s dream: everything characteristically Jewish, shown in as unflattering a light as possible.

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Bert
    , @Talha
    , @Anonymouse
  223. @Twodees Partain

    No that is not what is happening; what is happening is that people are not asking questions but instead are accusing me of not wanting to answer them! You have a question, comrade?

  224. @Twodees Partain

    And who doesn’t want and isn’t making effort to gain economic success?

    You are accusing the Jews for being more successful? Your problems. Keep working on it, become as intelligent as the Jews, understand how the world works and be the man. The Jews control the diamond business, for example. The Jews are good at banking and are the best lawiers, good at medicine and arts and own popular newspapers. Do the same!

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Pheasant
  225. @Bert

    The Hungarian scientist who discovered germs was considered insane. He said it was important to wash hands. No one believed him. This is the reason of high count of children deaths in Europe among gentiles. The Jews wash hands because the Talmud prescribes this.

    The fact that in the Jewish ghettos less people were affected during the mass epidemics in Europe is well known.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  226. @Astuteobservor II

    Why are you behaving like this?

    Because I have seen your behavior many times before. “gimme, gimme sources”.
    Then what? You are lazy and you want an “authoritative source” that explains you “the world”, don’t you?

    You don’t comprehend the Rothschild quote as to how you control entire countries?
    The communists created a “new Chinese man”, detached from his own history and roots, in the same sense the Soviets attempted to create a “new soviet man”, but failed.
    The Chinese communists created quite masonic in a sense, worker bees and kind of hive mentality.

    It is btw interesting to note, that the cultural destruction did not take place in North Korea to such an extend as in China’s “cultural revolution”.
    In North Korea, it was done by the democratic UN in the Korea war.

    The control is via private central banks, the legal fiction of the person, insurances and the private entity UN, EU and similar criminal organizations.
    “The world” is a freaking business, almost all countries are run as corporations, those who refuse will be bombed to it. And corporations/companies have always owners.

  227. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    Artificial selection on plants and animals, both for economic purposes and as purely scientific investigation, has found in hundreds of cases that genetic variation exists for virutally any trait. That variation is usually polygenic, that is, many genes affect the trait. So if the selection applied artificially is strong enough, some change in the desired direction can be achieved.

    Dog breeds, artifically selected in far less time than was available for evolution of Ashkenazi behavioral tendencies, can differ enormously in their innate behavior (pit bull versus lab). Back in the 1980’s E. O. Wilson and Charles Lumsden articulated the concept of gene-culture coevolution wherein culture can favor genes controlling certain behavior and then the presence of more of those genes causes futher elaboration of the culture in which they succeed. This is the kind of thing I personally believe happened with the Ashkenazi.

    Looking at another ethnic group, British Borderers were exposed to constant raiding and warfare for over 300 years. Much of my descent is from those people, and my innate internal reaction to personal aggression is pretty extreme. But I don’t even raise my voice when actually dealing with inter-personal conflicts. Yet if the environment I lived in were one of war-lordism, I could deal with that better than most. Human behavior is context dependent. I’m not saying that Ashkenazi are today, in America, all bad-actors.

    You have to also consider in America the process of “boiling off” when an Ashkenazi who lacks negative ethnocentric tendencies decides to marry a gentile. The Ashkenazi gene pool in America is being modified by that process. My family physician is Ashkenazi, married to a person of English descent from a famous line of Southern military men. She is a wonderful doctor.

    Also note I have not included Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in my hypothesis. I think that they did not experience the same selection pressures (huge opportunity for exploitation of native peasantry) that the Ashkenazi did.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @utu
  228. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    Correction of sorts. For comparing behavioral evolution in dog breeds with human behavioral evolution, what matters is number of generations, not years. The Ashkenazi were in an environment that rewarded exploitation of East European peasantry for about 40 generations. A similar number of generations under selection can create a new dog breed.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  229. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    However, such a trait can be either exaggerated or ameliorated according to the environment.

    This in-group preference among Europeans was actually something that was dissolved over centuries of (what I can only think of calling social engineering) as their clans and tribes were dismantled. A good read is here:
    “In 1059, Pope Nicholas II issued an encyclical which required that “if anyone had taken a spouse within the seventh degree, he will be forced canonically by his bishop to send her away; if he refuses, he will be excommunicated.” In 1215, the Fourth Lateran Council reduced the number of prohibited degrees from seven to four. Still, the cummulative effect was to encourage exogamy–i.e., marriage outside one’s native community–and the growth of regional marriage markets.”
    https://pages.uoregon.edu/dluebke/Reformations441/441MarriageLaw.html

    And here:
    “The medieval church instituted marriage laws and practices that undermined large kinship groups. From as early as the fourth century, it discouraged practices that enlarged the family, such as adoption, polygamy, concubinage, divorce, and remarriage. It severely prohibited marriages among individuals of the same blood (consanguineous marriages), which had constituted a means to create and maintain kinship groups throughout history…
    Among the anthropologically defined 356 contemporary societies of Euro-Asia and Africa, there is a large and significant negative correlation between Christianization (for at least 500 years) and the absence of clans and lineages; the level of commercialization, class stratification, and state formation are insignificant.”
    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.61.3711&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    Furthermore, there were more recent policies like one in the US that may have had certain intentions at the outset, but may have gone a little too haywire at this point (I haven’t read this book, though I have seen it referenced in plenty of articles on related topics):
    “Forbidden Relatives challenges the belief–widely held in the United States–that legislation against marriage between first cousins is based on a biological risk to offspring. In fact, its author maintains, the U.S. prohibition against such unions originated largely because of the belief that it would promote more rapid assimilation of immigrants.”
    https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/76rws4ss9780252065408.html

    Anyway, it is an interesting subject to explore. Are white societies paying the eventual price for these kinds of policies that have rendered them vulnerable to groups that have a stronger in-group concept and the resilience that comes with it.

    Is it time – and even possible – to attempt to revive the concept of clans and such things based on blood heritage (as opposed to a amorphous and mongrelized concept of “white”)?

    Peace.

  230. I feel bound in duty to point out that anonymouse is disseminating hasbara.

    The US did not support the creation of Israel to begin with.

    Unless you believe a child is not gestated but spends only moments in the womb before its birth, yes, the US did support the ‘creation of Israel’ from its very inception — or conception.

    Louis Brandeis, Chaim Weizmann, Baron Rothschild in collaboration with other arch-zionist Jews in USA and in Britain, negotiated with British leaders and with Woodrow Wilson and Col. House, among others, to draft and assent to the Balfour Declaration.

    It was not just a piece of paper, it was a contract, the quid pro quo being US entry into WWI. USA complied with those terms.
    Jews obtained from the British that which they did not have the right to give; and Jews promised to British leaders USA actions that they had no right to pledge.

    Just for starters.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  231. @Bert

    ‘Artificial selection on plants and animals, both for economic purposes and as purely scientific investigation, has found in hundreds of cases that genetic variation exists for virutally any trait…’

    Hypothetically, you’re right. That’s a different matter, of course, from demonstrating that that’s what actually happened.

    One point that militates against your hypothesis is that most of the Jews I have actually known haven’t been particularly exclusivist, exploitative, etc. They have had their quirks, but that’s a different matter.

    The set one encounters here — the mighty warriors for Zion — and the set that infests Washington may or may not be as representative as the sample I have know personally. After all, those I have known have by definition been Jews who are willing to interact with gentiles socially.

  232. Zumbuddi says:
    @Talha

    Yes it is an interesting subject to explore.

    Thx for introducing it.

    • Replies: @Talha
  233. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Whites were extremely ethnocentric as late as the early 20th century.

    The old Hajnal Line theory. I remember a few years ago you mocked that theory together with me, Talha. You probably don’t remember that.

    It’s interesting to me that every commenter on this site who initially seemed to have a spiritual orientation eventually falls onto the HBD bandwagon.

    Islam does not tend to be protective against modernity, it seems.

    Commenter Intelligent Dasein, a Catholic, also recently begin believing in the Hajnal Line after years of mocking HBD theories.

    One by one, the Free Lands of Middle Earth fell to the Dark Lord.

    But there were some who resisted….

    Where is the last alliance of elves and men?

    • Replies: @Talha
  234. @Bert

    ‘Correction of sorts. For comparing behavioral evolution in dog breeds with human behavioral evolution, what matters is number of generations, not years. The Ashkenazi were in an environment that rewarded exploitation of East European peasantry for about 40 generations. A similar number of generations under selection can create a new dog breed.’

    I think you exaggerate there. Ashkenazi Arrendars, tavern-keepers, etc flourished — depending on where we’re talking about — for around three hundred years. That would be more like twelve generations, not forty.

    Also, for evolutionary pressure to have effectively selected for the traits under consideration, Jews would have had to have the option of leaving the population or at least been less successful at reproducing if they didn’t care to exploit their gentile neighbors. I don’t see any reason to be confident these factors were present — and present in sufficient strength to significantly alter the genetic composition of the Jewish population. I can quickly breed more amiable Pit Bulls by rigorously avoiding breeding any that display any aggressive tendencies at all. Things may take quite a while if I just rely on the authorities putting down those that bite the mailman to work the change.

    I think a cultural adaptation is reasonably likely. A genetic one, while theoretically possible, strikes me as a bit far-fetched.

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Bert
  235. @Colin Wright

    >On the other hand, in Israel, Jews have become almost fantastically hostile, manipulative, and exploitative towards the rest of humanity

    That remark resists comprehension. How exactly do Israelis, at home, manipulate and exploit the rest of humanity. Can you give us an explanation of how this is done? Explict examples? I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  236. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    and the kicker is that I suspect absolutely none of this is sincerely felt. Out of some convoluted calculation, you’re manufacturing it all

    I assure I am quite sincere. Either way, I am merely reproducing here the standard Romantic critique of Western civ. To my astonishment, I see that it is all but forgotten today – it is apparently my task to reintroduce ignorant Westerners here to the basic elements of their culture.

    Beware of looking too much for dark motives…there used to be another intelligent commenter here making all sorts of interesting comments, utu I believe his name was, who similarly could not believe that my generous moral vision and refusal to condemn any group was quite sincere.

    He was last seen wandering the streets in disheveled garb unable to discuss anything except the nefarious plots of Jews, spittle flying from his mouth….

    Beware his tragic fate…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  237. @Talha

    ‘…Is it time – and even possible – to attempt to revive the concept of clans and such things based on blood heritage (as opposed to a amorphous and mongrelized concept of “white”)?’

    That strikes me as an excessive and morbid reaction.

    I’m having a very good time up here in what I would describe as ‘provincial’ Oregon. Okay, the locals can be a bit dim-witted — but they’re sweet. Typical Oregon experience: last week I pick up a book of photos at a garage sale. The price says three dollars. I walk up and literally hand the lady the three dollars and the book.

    ‘Oh no. What was she thinking? Three dollars? That’s far too much. Fifty cents.’

    ‘Honey, that’s not how we do things back in Californy — but alright.’

    There’s nothing here that needs to be ‘fixed.’ About all that’s really required are some relatively modest measures. Say:

    1. Bar immigration. Countries can do this. They really can. They have. It’s not hard.

    2. Restore jobs. Around here, that would take the form of discouraging the export of raw logs; only sell the finished product after it’s been milled by the locals. Korea can buy all the 2×4’s she likes; she can even specify what she would like. She just can’t have the raw logs.

    3. Go back to mandatory commitment for the severely mentally ill. This floating population of loons is getting to be a real drag.

    Notice that all of these measures are things we were perfectly capable of doing in the recent past. There’s no reason we can’t resume doing them.

    • Replies: @Talha
  238. Bert says:

    I am, of course, offering an argument of plausibility. To test the idea would take some careful work in experimental psychology. Finding an interested researcher in psychology is on my to do list, though not close to the top. Best Regards.

  239. @SolontoCroesus

    The Balfour declaration was made in 1917. If the Brits and Americans thereby created Israel, how come they did nothing to implement that dream for 30 years? And the Brits for exactly 30 years actively resisted jewish immigration into Palestine, arrested those they caught and imprisoned them in Cyprus. And favored the Arabs at every turn with for example the Peel Commision which recommended that a small number of Jews be admitted and then all Jewish immigration to be banned.

    I await your explanation.

    • Replies: @anon
  240. Bert says:
    @The Dark Night

    Plenty of people choose other priorities than economic success. For you to think otherwise is very telling. But no one denies the right of someone to focus on economic success. The question is whether Ashkenazi are especially willing to disadvantage people of other ethnicities to achieve economic success. None of your bobbing and weaving is relevant to that question. Or maybe it is because the subtext of your reply to Twodees Partain is rife with Jewish supremacist and triumphalist sentiment.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  241. Just a few rummaging thought ..:

    it’s funny how the ones that currently populate the state of Israel today lay claim to it because of their geneology but, haven’t they undergone centuries of blood dilution with non-isralites. So that would make them far from being pure isralites and they know this which is probably why they settled on the word Jew as an encompassing identifier.

    I would agree with you that the israelies did win the 6 day war against several arab nations which tried to conquer lone Israel at the time and they lost, quite embarrassingly. So Israel won and in respect of this win as per might is right they did what they were now afforded to do being entitled to the specific part of the land they had won.
    However there is a good way of doing might-is-right and a bad way of doing it; the israelies have clearly chosen the bad way by turning oppressor and using underhanded means of kicking The Other off of their land on a non-war basis and essentially stealing it.

    Also if the israelies truly believed they own the land then why are they not following in the footsteps of religious orthodox jews and doing things like outlawing homosexuality (which is widespread in Israel as other commenters have noted). Obviously the original inhabitants were religiously minded but the current israelies are far from being religious, it doesn’t make any sense. Surely you would act in accordance with your ancestors religion if you really believed you were from them, isn’t that more important than the land, no?

    Perhaps the ones who comprise the recent Hebrew Isralites movement (mostly among black Africans in the west) are the true inheritors of the land as they seem proud of their religion.

    So what do you thin? I mostly associate a notion of a “promised land” with religion and nothing but religion and clearly only a small minority of jews in Israel are religiously motivated so shouldn’t Israel be accommodating the Hebrew Isralites movement. Most israelies are atheists and very liberal so would be better of in Europe and America to be honest. It’s quirky

    • Replies: @Anon
  242. how come they did nothing to implement that dream for 30 years?

    Speechless.
    ——
    I interrupted an exchange between you & Renfro, who has insulted my “cornpone ass,” so I should let Renfro deliver the smackdown.

    First: solely for the sake of argument, assuming the Brits & Americans “did nothing to implement that dream,” why should it be the obligation of the Brits and Americans to implement the zionist dream? Wasn’t it enough that Americans spent their blood and treasure to achieve that which was of no interest to the American people?

    Second: In that intervening 30 years, the list things done exceeds my willingness to spend the time to enumerate.
    -Germans contributed mightily to building up the Balfour gift.
    -Numerous organizations in USA were created and Jewish leaders toured the country selling zionism and collecting funds.
    -Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter abused their status as Supreme Court Justices to inveigle favors from the British and from other US institutions, as well as US Jews.
    -The British posted troops to quell tensions between restive Arabs and belligerent Jews.
    -Large swathes of land were acquired, frequently by stealth, by Jewish agents in Palestine, where they were protected by those British troops.
    – In 1930, Rabbi S. Wise and Jacob de Haas, Louis Brandeis’s PR frontman, wrote a book complaining that the British were not doing enough to fulfill “an agreement she entered into with the allied and associated powers, including the United States, whereby the establishment of the Jewish National Home was publicly avowed as one of the aims of the World War.”
    https://www.unz.com/article/israel-worship-is-white-nationalism-for-boomers-too-cowardly-to-demand-their-own-ethnostate/#comment-3471609
    – Luxury homes were built at Rehovoth for the Schoken family and for Chaim Weizmann
    – Sam Untermeyer spewed hatred of Germans to squeeze funds from wealthy NY Jews to build Hebrew University,
    – Jews built up near Jaffa, in order to undercut the Arab trade in oranges & other revenue production
    A prolonged war, 116,500 American killed; 700,000 British killed — that’s not enough for your lot?

    Renfro noted elsewhere that it was getting just too much to put up with Jews —
    “I really have to quit reading this stuff or I’ll start hating all the Jews instead of just the Jews For Israel..”
    That’s where I’m at.

    You’re sick bastards.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  243. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    From Wikipedia:

    “The first Jews arrived in the territory of modern Poland in the 10th century.”

    “Another factor for the Jews to emigrate to Poland were the Magdeburg rights, or Magdeburg Law, a charter given to the Jews, among others, that specifically outlined the rights and privileges that Jews had coming into Poland. For example, they could define their neighborhoods and economic competitors and set up monopolies. This made it very attractive for Jewish communities to pick up and move to Poland.[34]”

    “Magdeburg rights (German: Magdeburger Recht; also called Magdeburg Law) were a set of town privileges first developed by Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor (936–973) and based on the Flemish law,[1] which regulated the degree of internal autonomy within cities and villages granted by the local ruler.”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @utu
  244. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    Whites were extremely ethnocentric as late as the early 20th century.

    That is correct – as various “white” identities; however, they weren’t tribal or clannish.

    If you want to see whites that retained tribes and clans, go to the Caucasus region – they are still alive and well, possibly the only area where you will find whites still adopting that framework.

    I remember a few years ago you mocked that theory together with me, Talha.

    Still do, I don’t find it explains things coherently. Honestly, no specific or single theory that I’ve come across explains well what’s happening in Western countries. I personally think it is a mix of various things – including what I pointed out.

    eventually falls onto the HBD bandwagon.

    Well, it depends; I certainly don’t believe its determinant like some people do (meaning “it’s all about race” or that one’s genes determine their future – I think that is a fairly silly way to look at a complex problem), but I think it is tough to simply put aside the fact that human beings do have a biological component and that component does affect the societies they build. For instance – related to what I posted, they did a study on an isolated white population (Iceland in this case) and found that over time, their seems to be a “sweet spot” regarding how prolific certain couplings are compared to others:
    “Couples who are third or fourth cousins tend to have more kids and grandkids than other couples. And though considered somewhat of a cultural taboo, mating between ‘kissing cousins’ makes good biological sense, say scientists.”
    https://www.livescience.com/2271-kissing-cousins-kids.html

    Is it possible that part (not all) of the reason that white’s fertility numbers are in the dumps is because they don’t have these kinship marriages any more? I don’t know, but it is certainly an area worth exploing.

    Islam does not tend to be protective against modernity, it seems.

    Well, not for the woke/progressive Muslims. But, if you want to know my take on it as a traditional Muslim, I’ll quote this brother:

    Nothing I’m stating is all that different from what was observed by Ibn Khaldun to be honest, we just have more data points on it now.

    Peace.

  245. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Good points. Certainly cannot argue with the stopping immigration argument; that seems to be a relatively easy one to point out to as exacerbating multiple other issues.

    There’s no reason we can’t resume doing them.

    Not on a technical level, no.

    Peace.

  246. Talha says:
    @Zumbuddi

    No problem, here is a pretty good article on the subject as well:
    ” In the early days of Europe’s darkest age, the Church waged a tireless war against the clans of Western Europe. The first step was broadening the doctrinal definition of incest to include marriage to almost all kin relations. Starting with the Synod of Agde in 517 AD, more than 15 synods on the subject were held in France, Spain, and Northern Italy over two centuries.

    In kingdoms where the Church was strong, kings were eager to incorporate the new Catholic understanding of marriage and incest into their laws. By the end of the seventh century, legislation against incestuous marriages was written into the Merovingian, Visigothic, and Lombard legal codes. No one, however, was as active a promoter of the new understanding as Charlemagne. He decreed that all prospective spouses must undergo interviews by local bishops or priests before they were allowed to marry. These churchmen would investigate the family relations of both parties; if they were found to violate Church statutes, Charlemagne’s decrees empowered authorities to end the marriage. The power of the clans was being destroyed one marriage at a time. What followed was one of the greatest social transformations in European history: Western Europeans stopped thinking of themselves as kinsmen and started thinking of themselves as neighbors.”
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-the-catholic-church-created-our-liberal-world/

    Now, I personally think there were benefits to this transformation – most would agree. The question is; did it go too far and was their a hidden price underlying the transformation which was waiting to be paid and the piper just came calling?

    Peace.

  247. @SolontoCroesus

    I’d like to add few remarks.

    The NS-Zionist agreement “Haavara”(Transfer) came out of necessity, and it met the objective to get Jews out of Europe, but it was not the primary choice Germany would have taken. It was a German concession to appease the warmongering US jews. The German Jews begged the US jews as well to tone down the rhetoric, but they were ignored.
    Jrews paid in Berlin’s Paltreu Bank their assets, and Haavara bank in Tel Aviv paid them out. Transfer, and 60.000 Jews moved to Palestine between 1933-1939, the war terminated this.

    Consider this statement made by ex US foreign minister James Baker in “Der Spiegel”

    We made a monster of Hitler, a devil, that is why (therefore) we could not say otherwise after the war.
    We had personally mobilized the masses nevertheless against the devil. Thus, we have been forced after the war to play along this devil’s scenario.
    We could not have possibly made it clear to our people, that the war was only a preventative economic measure

    He basically said, over 60 Million people had to die only because of a preventative economic measure, Germany had endangered their business model, which is concealed, modern and sophisticated slavery.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  248. @Anonymouse

    ‘…That remark resists comprehension. How exactly do Israelis, at home, manipulate and exploit the rest of humanity. Can you give us an explanation of how this is done? Explict examples? I doubt it.’

    Explicit examples?

    Oh lessee. There’s the binary options scam that the Israeli government permitted to run for over a decade, by which operators in Israel bilked overseas investors (non-Israelis only) of as much as ten billion a year.

    There was the Lavon affair, when Israel planted a bomb in US facilities in Egypt in an attempt to make it appear Egyptian nationalists were attacking the US….the attack on the Liberty, when Israel attempted to sink a US ship and make it appear the Egyptians had done it…at least one terrorist bombing in Iran when Mossad agents pretended to be CIA operatives to make it appear the US was mounting terrorist attacks against Iran.

    There was the Iraq war, of course, when Israel fed the US false intelligence to get the US to attack Iraq.

    What else? Oh yeah. Israel is the global leader in the illegal human organ trade. She’s a major player in the international white slave trade. Zionist donors were the leading contributors to the campaigns of both candidates in the 2016 US presidential elections.

    Should I think of more? Syria, of course. Israel’s boasted of how it arranged for the coup in Egypt. What would you like?

    But thank you for giving me the opportunity to expand upon my remarks.

  249. @AaronB

    ‘…Beware his tragic fate…’

    I think I’ll disregard your advice.

    ‘…For it is evil things that we shall be fighting against, brute force, bad faith, injustice, oppression and persecution…’

    …as somebody said. The world can be a strange and morally ambiguous place. It’s nice to see evil clearly and do what one can to oppose it.

  250. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous222"] says:
    @jING

    He has hundreds of articles slightly more impersonal than this one. Read the Occidental Observer. He also has three interviews with a convert to orthodox Judaism called Luke ford. You will find mirrors of them on youtube. If not try Bitchute or Luke Ford’s blog.

    Also see his interview (in writing) with Reactionary jew and The Rebbe two semi-anonymous jews (both right-wing and one of them strictly orthodox) where he provided a platform for them to say what they wished without hostility or criticism.

    As for you I would like to see you dispute his points.

  251. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous222"] says:
    @jack daniels

    ‘They seemed to have a very dim view of the United States’

    They resent their host societies since they are dependent on them. Dependency breeds resentment. I have had Jews stab me in the back for no other reason than it helped aleviate thier resentment at being even partially dependent on me. Once you see it you really can never stop seeing it.

  252. @Bert

    ‘From Wikipedia:

    “The first Jews arrived in the territory of modern Poland in the 10th century.”…’

    The issue would be what did they actually do, and starting when. For example, they could hardly have started exploiting the Ukrainian peasantry until there was a Ukrainian peasantry to exploit, and Polish overlords to serve. That situation would have arisen around the fifteenth century, at a guess…and lasted, in various forms, into the nineteenth.

    • Replies: @Bert
  253. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous222"] says:
    @Lot

    How many ‘failed academics’ do you know that have tenure?

    Joyce is close to 50 years younger than Macdonald.

    Try and know the basic facts about the people you so deem to castigate.

    • Replies: @JIng
  254. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous222"] says:
    @National Action

    ‘you’re just a typical Left Wing Moron . You love to call good academics who have risked everything fighting a parasitic group of people of which you might possible belong to’

    She is a half Jew (half anglo half jew) whose favourite pass time is to run interference here for her tribe. Trying to get sense out of her is like getting blood from a stone.

  255. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous224"] says:
    @The Dark Night

    ‘The Jews control the diamond business, for example’

    Not since the Indians took it over 15 years ago. Hey they must just be smarter right?
    Nothing to do with third world workers cutting down wages and Indians having thier own source of diamonds going around the Jewish monopoly.

    Also an over-production of professionals and clerks was one of the causes of zionism so that Jews could have a balanced workforce in thier own territory and stop placing themselves into zero-sum competition with the non-jewish middle classes.

  256. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous224"] says:
    @Lot

    Thank you Lot for admitting Klimt was not Jewish.

    Now how about some actual Jewish art to help prove your point.

    I will not hold my breath.

  257. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse

    Israel in the Mind of America : Peter Gross

    This book praised by Shimon Peres even.

    It shows the infiltration and manipulation of various American social religious academic and political institutions by Jews preceding the American support of creation of Israel.

    The book shows the pressure on Truman , threats , blackmails, and threats to Asian Latin American
    African countries and to France to fall in line carved out by Zionist in USA

  258. JIng says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Your comments in defense of what fine men the TRS jackoffs and Nehlen are tell us all we need to know – you’re a low IQ follower groupie. People like you are the evidence that the “let’s rant about the jews some more” side of the AR are the losers dragging the whole right down.

    I don’t personally care about what you, Nehlen, Enoch and the other whack jobs do as you try to scrape a living together “naming the Jew.” I’m just telling you, no Jews are scared of any of you. If you actually were a problem jews would use violence to solve the problem. You’re all free to run around reminding us of missing links because of how non-existent a threat you actually are.

    Israel doesn’t care, the Mossad doesn’t care, the JDL doesn’t care. The ADL and SPLC only care because they make money pretending to do so.

    Meanwhile, your dumb fanaticism does create a problem for the smarter people on the right who are unfortunately still associated with you because your parasitical millennial-filled groups of narcissists always try to direct attention from the smart people back to your stupid ass.

    You’re nothing but useful idiots for the left. If you didn’t exist someone would have to invent you, and maybe they have, your “book clubs” and “pool parties” are crawling with Feds.

  259. @Germanicus

    Thanks for that additional information, Germanicus.

    Wish I’d counted to ten before responding to Anonymouse.

    The “30 year period” between Balfour and the declaration of the state of Israel was one of feverish activity, most especially in the years between Hitler’s rise to power and Louis Brandeis’s February 14, 1933 directive that “all German Jews must leave Germany,” and 1938 / Kristallnacht — the last big fear-tactic to get remaining Jews to leave Germany.

    Francis Nicosia records the activities of Mossad el-Aliyeh bet in persuading, then escorting Jews from Germany and other European cities from their homes and, illegally, across the British blockade into Palestine. (Zionism and Anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany)

    Edwin Black notes in Transfer Agreement that in the midst of the Depression, the flow of German Jewish wealth into Palestine made it the most prosperous place on the planet.

    Etan Bloom’s Arthur Ruppin and the Production of the Modern Hebrew Culture (PhD diss. at TelAviv University) offers a chronology and roadmap of these activities.
    Ruppin was born, educated and mentored in Germany by some of Germany’s finest academicians;

    Although Ruppin obtained a law degree and had a promising career in the field of law, . . . his real intellectual curiosity and his first academic success lay in the new interdisciplinary field which become known in the following years as “racial hygiene” (Rassenhygiene) or “eugenics.”

    Ruppin drafted the requirements for “human material” that was to form the “New Jew;” by ~1923, at least four sets of European Jews who had met the requirements made aliyeh and populated the kibbutzes Ruppin established. One set — the fourth aliyeh, in 1923, — had to be sent back to their East European places of origin, as they failed to measure up to the demands of settlement.

    Ruppin acquired land and built Tel Aviv in a style that would appeal to sophisticated German Jews, although many settlers resisted the demands to maintain larger spaces between houses and for streets.

    David Ben Gurion’s 1937 letter to his son also offers an insight into the thinking of zionist leadership in Palestine, and their intentions against the chafing restraints of the British Mandate.

    Ben Gurion was also at the helm in 1944 when the Jewish Agency in Palestine discussed whether to request that Allies bomb Auschwitz. At the time — June, 1944, the committee recorded that they believed that “Auschwitz is a labor camp,” and they “did not wish to be responsible for harm to a single Jew.” They did not place the request. (Rafael Medoff studied this event in a paper for Wyman Institute.)


    In 1914, Palestine had a population of 59,000 Jews
    In 1922, Palestine had a population of 84,000 Jews
    In 1931, Palestine had a population of 175,000 Jews
    In 1947, Palestine had a population of 630,000 Jews

    One last mention:
    Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944-1948 by Robert Lackner

    During the 1920’s and 1930’s, the growth of the Jewish population due to Zionism and National Socialism [see Germanicus / James Baker, # 249, above] had a negative effect on the Arab-Jewish relationship in Palestine.
    Considering her own strategic position, Great Britain as the mandatory power restricted Jewish immigration in order to appease the neighbouring Arab countries.
    As a consequence, the Zionist terror organisations Irgun and Lehi declared war on the British in early 1944, killing or wounding hundreds of soldiers, policemen and colonial officials.
    Until its very last days in Palestine, the Empire found no appropriate policy either to break up the underground or at least to stop the attacks on military and civilian targets.
    This book describes the guerrilla tactics adopted by the Jewish terrorists and examines the failure of Britain’s political and military strategy, highlighting the reasons for her inability to stop terrorism.

    Among the terror attacks British troops suffered at the hands of zionists was the Sergeants affair in 1947, when zionist terrorists hung two British soldiers.
    “How come they did nothing to implement that dream for 30 years?”

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  260. utu says:
    @Bert

    “…my hypothesis…” – So far all you have is an idea of yourself of how you would hypothetically act in a hypothetical situation on the basis of you identifying with a particular mythology of people you believe you descended from. But you can’t prove this hypothesis and never will. Besides there is a possibility that you were swapped at birth in a hospital. There is a possibility that the subset of SNP markers that actually supposed to be responsible for the trait you fantasize about is missing in you even though you are a son of your parents.

    While the hypothesis that personality traits have strong genetic component and that they co-evolved as response to culture that in turn had to accommodate genetic proclivities is interesting but it is practically untestable when it comes to subtle traits that have some spectrum and yet are practically unquantifiable. Unfortunately various Neo-Darwinian yahoos and charlatans have no inhibition nor common sense and restraint to keep pushing those ideas usually selectively when they please their confirmation bias. You can see it on Sailer and Cochran blogs a lot. They keep concocting Neo-Darwinian just-so stories that would make Kipling envious.

    • Replies: @Bert
  261. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous2235"] says:
    @Kitty

    Marx coopted early socialism and turned it into a doctrine of hate aimed at the European middle classes who were in competition with the Jews. He may have been slightly critical of Jews but ultimately he poisoned the well of socialism with hostile pseudo-science.

  262. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous2235"] says:
    @National Action

    Good lad you tell im. That gatekeeping fool.

    What has conservatism conserved?

  263. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous2235"] says:
    @jhan

    Not naming the Jew was tried by the John birch society and many other vastly more respectable outfits on both the left and right. It never works.

    You have given in to Jewish intimidation from the get go.

    • Agree: Alden
  264. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous2235"] says:
    @Logan

    ‘The “Palestinians” may have largely been present in what is now Israel when the Israelis started arriving, but they are certainly not the “original” inhabitants.’

    The Palestinians are literally jews. Next to Kurds they are the most related population to Jews. There is a long history of crypto Judaism in Palestine.

  265. Pheasant [AKA "anonymous2236"] says:
    @Jake

    Vatican 2 was done by crypto Jews. Joyce has an article on that too.

  266. JIng says:
    @Pheasant

    MacDonald and Joyce are different. MacDonald’s theories, whether you agree with them or not originate from a neutral academic project to study group evolutionary strategies. Joyce, I think uses a pseudonym, I don’t really knows what his deal is at all, but I doubt he’s a working academic, even if academically trained. MacDonald came late in his life to some offbeat political opinions, and thus bedfellows, and paid a price, but its hard to imagine he had Jewish students who complained about him picking on them in class for instance. Joyce seems like an anti-Semite who studied Jews to support his pet theories, and it would be hard to imagine him with Jewish students who wouldn’t have a problem with him. MacDonald could associate with Jewish academics without issue. Joyce tells his Rabbinical interviewees that he thinks whites should kick all Jews out of white countries.

    The far right will always be judged by its worst members and worst moments, not its best, which is why a bit more self-policing on this stuff would be highly advisable. Maybe I’m being overly charitable but I think there would be hope for an AJ 2.0, maybe when he’s older and wiser.

  267. renfro says:
    @Anonymouse

    Why is the armchair social justice warriro Renfro so hot for Palestinians?

    Renfro is hot for Justice.

    I feel bound in duty to point out that Renfro is disseminating lies in his comment.

    You are wasting your time with that …most everyone here is familiar with Truman’s part and the deceptions the Jew Zios used ….by impersonating US officials in some instances as a example….in pressuring other countries to vote at the UN.

    All documented in “Against Our Better Judgment’..by Allison Weir……highly recommend this book to all who want the exact details on how Israel was created.

  268. utu says:
    @Bert

    Until 14-15 century all Jews who happened to be in Poland were engaged in three occupations only

    (1) Buying and selling slaves and transporting slaves to major slave markets in Europe (Prague, Lyon, Venice)
    (2) Running mints
    (3) Usury

    Magdeburg rights had nothing to do with it.

    In 15 century Jews approached Polish king (Casimir IV Jagiellon) with a copy of Statute of Kalisz of Jewish rights in Poland that allegedly was granted in 1264. The king has rejected it believing that it was a forgery and another example of Jewish chutzpah though this word probably did not function in Polish or in Latin yet. Nevertheless Jews kept claiming that the Statute of Kalisz was ratified by many Polish kings and some people believed it. In 19 century Polish historian and lawyer Romuald Hube after researching the issue concluded that the Statute of Kalisz is a forgery and has no legal standing and never had any legal standing. Unfortunately in Jewish Haggadah the Statute of Kalisz continues to be used as an example that Jews were in Poland and enjoyed exceptional privileges from the very beginning of Polish statehood.

    The privileges given by the alleged Statute of Kalisz are outrageous. No sane country would grant such privileges to anybody. English Wiki does not list all 36 articles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Kalisz
    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statut_kaliski
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuald_Hube

    What is interesting that one of the article of the Statute preemptively forbids any accusation of Jews for the blood libel.

    But it is true that at various times Polish Kings granted Jews many privileges and used Jews as their tools against the burghers who often were in conflict with the crown and gentry. The most important privileges were that concerning legal autonomy so Jews collected their own taxes and had their own courts in their local Kahals. Only the final partition of Poland in 18 century abolished the Jewish privileges of autonomy by Russia, Prussia and Austria.

    The role of Jews in weakening of Poland in 17-18 century that lead to final collapse of Polish state is disputed among historians.

    • Replies: @Alden
  269. Anon[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @Raj Tattle

    In 1948, Arab armies attacked ‘ Israel’ to prevent the forceful eviction of the Arab from Palestine where civil war broke out between Jews and Palestinian .
    Arab army never went into Israel but limited their activities only in the land that was allocated by UN for Palestine state.

    Another factor – combined Arab army numbered 30,000. Most were peasant turned soldiers
    Jordan provided 5000 trained and it won against Israel !

    Jewish army 90,000 to 130,000
    Most were WW2 vet or trained reserve , or dream from active militia and from Jewish Legion of British Military.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Raj Tattle
  270. Anon[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @SamW

    Do we have data?
    70% Jews supported Iraq war .
    Anti war activity was not mounted by Jews in 1967 when they were mounting opposition to Vietnam war .
    Do they vote anti war candidate ? I doubt.
    They are locally active but they raise their strident voices when Israel is involved
    They came out supporting Gaza invasion by Netanyahu.
    They were worst critic of Obama for JCPOA.

    • Replies: @SamW
  271. Talha says:
    @Anon

    The defense of that entire area for centuries was managed by quality Ottoman garrisons, manned by Turks and soldiers from the Balkans), with capable Turkish officer corps (sometimes even borrowing a German or two) backed by Arab auxiliaries. The Turks also had a ton of experience in combined-arms tactics and had evolved experience from going toe to toe with European armies. There was little chance the Arabs were going to make up for all that experience and aptitude in their trial by fire. The losses were expected – it would have been a miracle if they had won.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  272. @Blake

    You must have old NPC firmware… since being white is now an obvious social liability jews are once again been socially reconfigured to be non whites.

    We’re a few years out from a full system upgrade, at which point the ADL will announce that calling jews whites is hate speech on par with the OK symbol. This is planned to coincide with the official banishment of whites from political power in their own countries… consult Mark Potok’s wall chart for specifics.

    Only if by some horrible accident of virulent antisemitism, europeans unexpectedly retain power in european countries… Jews will be confirmed as europeans.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  273. Bert says:
    @utu

    You just rejected most of the field of Human Biodiversity. So presumably you do believe that dogs vary genetically in behavioral traits because people have created endogamous groups of dogs, and have chosen which will be reproductively successful. Yet you do not believe that endogamous groups of human beings can evolve in terms of behavior when they occupy an economic (= ecological) niche that was unique.

    From another post of yours, you apparently do not believe that buying and selling Slavs or usury involves exploitation of the host population, nor that such activities might be more effectively done if the doer had an unempathetic personality. You do not believe that the racial behavioral differences that Richard Lynn documented in his book, “Race Differences in Psychopathic Personality” could possibly be genetically-based adaptations.

    Science proceeds incrementally and begins with hypotheses. Your desire is to declare the investigation of group differences in psychology off limits, like Lewontin tried to do with regard to basic genetic differences. You declare certain hypotheses off limits. Given your close-mindedness, you shouldn’t be throwing around words like “charlatan” and “yahoo.”

  274. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    You appear to be claiming that slave trading and usury did not exploit anyone. And further that there was no class structure in Eastern Euope prior to the fifteenth century.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  275. Alden says:
    @Lot

    Not a jr college, a state university

  276. Alden says:
    @The Dark Night

    I thought they could drink wine with a filthy infidel if they brought their own drink container and the wine was in a glass bottle. Or is that just a glatt kosher rule?

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  277. Alden says:
    @Bert

    There was no official Catholic Church position on contraception until 1588 when Pope Sixtus 5 issued an order claiming contraception was homicide? and those practicing contraception be charged with murder.

    Of course by this time Eastern Europe was orthodox and didn’t recognize the Pope as an authority. Western Europe was half Protestant by then and extremely anti catholic and even more against that scarlet woman of Rome who called himself Pope.

    Both church and civil authorities in the catholic countries ignored Sixtus’ order. 3 years later the next Pope rescinded the order.

    In the late 19th century maybe 1865 1875 after research by British physicians revealed that thousands of British women were legally aborting babies every year the Catholic Church issued an absolute ban on abortions. So did every Christian government in the world mostly Europe and the Americas.

    The British Drs research consisted of observing all those British women who married at 22, lived in the same house as their husbands and by age 45 had born only 2 or 3 children. Physical exams of late 30s pregnant woman showed many had abortions previously. British Drs also looked at all the ADs for health spas that promised guaranteed treatment to “ restore the menses “ . This was partly an outcome of the battle between male Drs and woman midwives to control the obstetrics business. Midwives were abortionists as well as assisting in childbirth. The British Drs anti abortion movement was part of their drive to drive the abortionist/midwives out of business.

    Interesting, the late 19th century Mrs Buttinsky feminists suffergates prohibition crusaders and women’s clubs all crusades to make abortion illegal in Europe and the USA.

    100 years later the feminazis Mrs Buttinskies and crusaders advocated legal abortion. Interesting no?

    Back to the Catholic Church and contraception it was not until 1930 that Pope Pius wrote an absolutely binding on all Catholics papal order forbidding any kind of contraception including avoiding the 5 fertile days of the month.

    Some say the Pope was worried about the low birth rate in the catholic countries of S America and Europe. Who knows?

    Sooo Nothing till 1588, that order ignored and rescinded 3 years later, 1870s anti abortion order 1930 anti contraception

    • Replies: @Bert
  278. Miggle says:
    @The Dark Night

    Everyone of all faiths washed their hands when their hands felt dirty (something we can all perceive), and probably before and after handling food. It’s a human instinct. Meanwhile, shit only contains digestive bacteria and has sometimes actually been fed to people with unbalanced digestive flora.

    Yes, horrible plagues happen, but it was the delivery of Zyklon B to Auchwitz that lowered the Jewish death rate there. No extra washing of their hands saved them from the typhus epidemic.

    That something as totalitarian and legalistic as the Talmud includes a demand to wash your hands adds nothing to population growth rates.

    Yes, self-isolating in a ghetto might reduce infection rates there, but that would have nothing to do with cleanliness.

    And washing your hands in oil wouldn’t make much difference. It was the Germans who invented soap.

  279. Alden says:

    Before Dr Joyce wrote about evil Jews imposing legal abortion on Christian European and American countries he should have done a bit of research.

    Had he done that research he would have learned that abortion was legal in Christian Europe and the Americas right up to the 1860s 70s.

    100 years later abortion was legalized again in America and most Christian European and American countries followed.

    I wonder how many White Christian children the anti contraception crusader Dr Joyce has brought into the world?

    If he’s married and practices what he preaches he and his wife would have about 15 children in 20 years.

    Margaret Sanger and Betty Friedan didn’t invent birth control and contraceptives. Birth control has been used for thousands of years. Sponges and other things have been used to block the cervix for thousands of years. Now days the device is called a diaphragm.

    Dr Joyce should have typed “When did contraception become illegal in Europe and America” into any search engine before he wrote this article blaming Margaret Sanger and her Jewish friends for legalizing contraception.

    I dislike Jews because 1 affirmative action 2 black in White crime 3 their roles in Brown vs Topeka Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber.

    Blaming Jews for legalizing contraception and abortion is about as useless as blaming them for killing Jesus.

  280. @SolontoCroesus

    The sudden increase of Jews in Palestine up to 1947 came about in only 2 years.
    It is a chapter the official narrative carefully avoids.
    The many crazy, aggressive eastern European Jews, tens of thousands, had been put on ships by the Allies.
    Patton describes them well.
    These ships waited on the Baltic and North sea originally for passage to Palestine, and the Brits unloaded them in Germany first. These looting, fanatic jewish hoards were soon loaded back on the ships again by the allied military, because they also attacked their allied protectors, besides massacring German civilians in totally destroyed and occupied Germany.
    The Brits and UN resorted to sink some of the ships to get some sense in these people, and others made it to Palestine, eg the ship “Exodus” the ex “President Warfield” refitted on order of the Haganah by Potomac Shipwrecking Co in Washington. The “holocaust” narrative conveniently includes these Jews.
    The price for the ship was funnily $ 60000, and it carried about 4500 terrorist Jews to Pelestine, escorted by British destroyers.

    Imagine this, the Jews terrorize and attack their British protectors, and the British take losses, humiliation and still carry on.

    It almost invites to draw parallels to Russian losses in Syria caused by Israeli missiles.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  281. Alden says:
    @utu

    I’ve read the for centuries only Jews were tax collectors. Custom of the times, they weren’t state employees. They were independent contractors. Like bill collectors they worked on commission and kept a percentage of the taxes paid. The jews kept most of the tax money.

    By the time Poland was partitioned Poland had no army, no foreign service and not enough money in the treasury to send an ambassador to the conferences Russia Prussia and Austria held to decide who got what part of Poland.

    The Jew tax collectors kept it all.

    They’re still complaining about how Prussia Russia and Austria oppressed them after partition. Their own fault. They destroyed Poland by embezzling the taxes necessary to pay an army to defend the borders.

    • Replies: @Talha
  282. SamW says:
    @Anon

    “They are locally active but they raise their strident voices when Israel is involved”

    I was talking about ultra-Orthodox Jews, and specifically I brought up Satmar. Satmar are strongly anti-Zionist, they are opposed to the existence of the State of Israel. They don’t lobby in support of Israel, or in favor of wars against Israel’s enemies.

    Most ultra-Orthodox Jews tend to be either anti-Zionist (opposed to founding of State of Israel) or at least non-Zionist (taking a neutral stance). Only a minority of ultra-Orthodox are pro-Zionist. This is different from non-ultra-Orthodox Judaism, in which pro-Zionism is the majority. It is the pro-Zionists who lobby in support of Israel and its interests.

    You appear to be ignorant of the internal diversity within Judaism.

  283. Nico says:
    @anon

    Voltaire, Shelley or Wells understood the fight against taboo ,inertia and avoidance of sex education , contraception and medically ethically necessary abortions in that light .

    Jews understood is as entry points for financial gain , for introducing debauchery , taking control of mass , manipulating organic basic human instinct , and turning the recreational abuse of the abortion as human right .

    If so, then Voltaire (who contrary to what some polemicists try to virtue signal was not ACTUALLY an anti-Semite) at least was an idiot for also standing for a form of religious tolerance that included the Jews. I tend to think that he knew what he was doing and that he would approve of this gross new world if he were alive today, but I grant that that point is at least debatable.

    Not that Jews are alone on that matter, though. There have been plenty of “enlightened” gentiles – Sade, Wollstonecraft, Laclos, Sartre and Hefner come to mind – whose modus operandi behind pushing feminism or proto-feminism was very clearly to rip females away from the protection of their fathers, husbands and brothers, so that they might succumb more easily to fulfill the aforementioned fellows’ perverse libertine fantasies.

    On the other hand, while Hefner was also not a Jew, I would certainly concur that the ‘Playboy Philosophy’ and its “new alpha” ideal of the sterile, metrosexual “man” would never have gotten as far as it has without the endorsement of the Jewish entertainment and media moguls. And then of course we could talk about the peculiar social and cultural priorities (notably with regards to feminism, homosexualism, immigration and intersectionality in general) of “official” institutions in the West nowadays, and note their historical and current dependence on capital not too far exposed to one or another Rothschild. I don’t mean to dispute that the Kevin MacDonald thesis that theirs was a conscious or unconscious interest in undermining [white, Christian] America’s morals and self-confidence (and those of the West in general) is more than a mere ad hoc hypothesis.

    Basically, I don’t exactly disagree with your second point but I do think it needs some nuance to give a complete picture.

  284. Bert says:
    @Alden

    The Roman Popes were against contraception much earlier than you claim. And Poland is part of Eastern Europe and is Catholic.

    From Wikipedia’s article on Medieval Contraception:
    “Historically, the Catholic Church perpetuated a belief that conception was an act of God …..The Church frowned upon contraceptive use or any methods of impeding population growth. The purpose of matrimony was stated to be the procreation of children, while purposelessly entering into an intentionally childless marriage was considered as little short of prostitution.[14] One area to address is Pope Gregory IX, and his Decretal dating from between 1227 and 1234 which declared that marriages contracted by parties intending to avoid having offspring were ’’ipso facto’’ or null.[15] The open opposition the church held towards the use of contraception likely led many individuals to use sexual abstinence. “

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  285. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    The likelihood of Ashkenazi evolving genetically based negative ethnocentrism depends in large part on what sort of selection was occurring.

    Evolutionary theory recognizes two kinds of selection, hard and soft. The following excerpt from Mark Ridley’s textbook distinguishes them.

    “When natural selection is operating on a population, individuals with some genotypes are more likely to die, or fail to reproduce, than individuals with other genotypes. The death, or non-reproduction, needed for selection may be hard or soft.
    If when natural selection is actually substituting one gene for another, it does so by means of extra mortality, on top of the background mortality which exists anyway, then it is called hard selection. If selection requires extra mortality, it will tend to depress the population size. The rate of evolution, therefore, has an upper limit: if selection is too strong it will depress the population size to zero.
    Under soft selection, the selective deaths are substituted for non-selective background mortality. If all the mortality suffered by a population was selective, evolution could proceed at an immense speed.

    The mechanism of selection that I am proposing is neither hard nor soft because it relies on differences in reproductive output rather than on differences in parental survival. Less empathetic/more negatively ethnocentric individuals are hypothesized to have had greater monetary incomes and that allowed increased reproduction. That would have allowed evolution to proceed very rapidly compared to either hard or soft mortality-based selection, the latter of which can already cause evolution to be fast.

    To believe that the evolution of increased negative ethnocentrism is far-fetched, one must also believe either 1) there was no genetic variation present in the Ashkenazi population for degree of empathy and for who could elicit empathy, or 2) that monetary resources did not influence feasible family size, or 3) that non-empathetic/more negatively ethnocentric Ashkenazi did not obtain more monetary resources. If those are your beliefs, then there is nothing more for me to say.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  286. Miggle says:
    @Wally

    Please let us know where Communism has been successful

    Cuba.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  287. Miggle says:
    @Wally

    You are confused.

    Ask Trump with his sanctions and tariffs what a free market is. You will find it is a captive market.

  288. Talha says:
    @Alden

    I’ve read the for centuries only Jews were tax collectors.

    If this is true, this is criminal ineptitude at basic-level statecraft. Any state that would do something so stupid (as exclusively outsourcing the lifeblood of the state, like tax-collection, to a minority population) deserves what is coming to it. To have empathy for it is to have empathy for a guy who regularly gets drunk on the weekend and goes bicycling on the freeway in the opposite direction of traffic. Survival of the fittest.

    The Jew tax collectors kept it all.

    Blaming Jews for selling you the bullets with which you blow out your own brains is silly.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anon
  289. Miggle says:
    @alan

    Alan, forget about Kenaz at Gen. 36:11 and learn about Ashkenaz at Gen. 10:3. He was a grandson of Noah’s son Japheth. After the Flood there were no humans living in Europe, obviously, right? Different descendants of Noah repopulated different regions of the world, and it was Ashkenaz who repopulated Europe.

    Post-Alexander the Jewish population all over the known world, Hellenistic, Roman, Persian, was very large, perhaps because that whole world was Greek-speaking (at least among the educated) and large empires brought safe travel. There are many ancient writings that say that, including the Hebrew Sibyl of the Maccabean era, around 150 BC. The Jews were thrown out of Rome at least three times in the two centuries before and one after the time of Christ. Acts 18:2ff. mentions Aquila and Priscilla, who were in Corinth “because Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome.” The reason for those expulsions was the social troubles caused by their aggressive proselytizing. We also have at Matthew 23:15,

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    Those proselyting rabbis made it clear to their converts that conversion did not make them Hebrews, that they remained Askenazim. Whichever end of Europe they were in, the Crimea-Caspian region in the east, or later the Rhineland region of the west, the rabbis told them they were Ashkenazim.

    That is, Japhethites.

  290. Alden says:
    @Bert

    BS And how many children do you have fertility crusader? 1? 2? None ? Do as you preach and have 15 children in 20 years of marriage.

    1588, Pope Sixtus rescinded 3 years later.

    • Replies: @Bert
  291. Alden says:
    @Talha

    Poles complain about the damage jews did in medieval and early modern times. But the history is clear, the sovereign and aristocrats basically turned the administration of the country over to jewish immigrants who ran the country into the ground.

    • Replies: @Talha
  292. Nonny says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Don’t blame Marx for Stalin.

  293. Alden says:
    @Bert

    That decree of Pope Gregory you cited had nothing to do with contraception. It was one of the many many grounds for annulment of marriage. The Catholic Church forbade divorce. But it allowed annulment. There were as many grounds for annulment as there are grounds for divorce.

    The basic catholic idea is that marriage is a legal contract. Both parties must make a fully informed consent. Informed consent offered endless grounds for annulment. Both parties must freely consent to the marriage without any coercion of any kind. . Parties seeking annulment can make up any bogus reason

    A common reason for annulment was and is that the bride was pregnant or thought she was pregnant. That’s coercion. Not necessarily a shot gun marriage. The coercion is that society expects couples to do the right thing; get married and raise the child. The pregnancy is what coerces the couple into marriage. Key concept is the bride thinks she’s pregnant. And if she realizes she’s not pregnant 2 weeks after the marriage, well , in those days there were no pregnancy tests other than not menstruating. But women are often late, some are irregular and if a woman thinks she might be pregnant that’s enough for an annulment.

    The easiest way to get an annulment was if the couple had no children. No children is “in and of itself clear and present evidence “ it was never and is not a true marriage in the eyes of God and the church.

    Women over 45, 50, 60 got married all the time. Obviously they couldn’t have children. If that decree you cite was was about having children instead of providing more of the endless grounds for annulment; women past childbearing would have been forbidden to marry.

    For more information, get off Wikipedia and get yourself to the nearest university library. Preferably a catholic university. Wikipedia LOL

    “ in and of itself clear and present evidence”
    Sound familiar? A legal concept used in our legal system today created more than a thousand years ago by the medieval canon lawyers of the church

  294. Talha says:
    @Alden

    Then Poles should complain about how stupid their rulers were in medieval times and learn what not to do in the future.

    Sometimes I see a really, really stupid trends or strains of thought or practice in certain European history.

    Step 1: “I’ve got it, let’s let Jews run important parts of our country.”
    Step 2: “Oh my GOD! Jews are running important parts of our country!”
    Step 3: “Let’s kill them and burn down their houses!”
    Step 4: “Oh man – perhaps we shouldn’t have done that, we kind of lost our cool – hey, how about we invite Jews back in to help run our country…?”

    Repeat back at step 1 – it’s really bipolar.

    Peace.

  295. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    he is a fanatic antisemite that want to exclude of any responsability to his “own ” group or what he imagine as his own group the polish nobility ,is true that jews were used as tax collectors in poland but the ones being enriched beyond measure was the novility while jews were able to win only the leftovers .

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  296. @Talha

    The Jews never returned to Poland. There was an exodus to Britain in the late 19th century (Jack the Ripper may been a Polish Jewish butcher) and then to the United States and then WWII.

    Also, historically, Jews managed to coexist with Muslims better than with Christians. It is now assumed that Jews and Muslims were always bitter enemies but over history this was not true.

    Remember, Jews absorbed much of the sciences and mathematics that Muslims as a conduit to Europeans.

    • Replies: @Talha
  297. @Bert

    ‘You appear to be claiming that slave trading and usury did not exploit anyone. And further that there was no class structure in Eastern Euope prior to the fifteenth century.’

    A good deal of it was a depopulated wasteland in the wake of the Mongol ravages of the thirteenth century. For example, a hundred years later, Kiev was apparently a village with a population of two hundred.

    The point is that the selection mechanism you posit could only begin operating in the Ukraine, for example, once Polish hegemony had been established and there was an oppressed Orthodox peasantry for the Jews to exploit. That couldn’t have come about until the fifteenth century or so.

    • Replies: @Bert
  298. @Alden

    This is just one of the regulations meant to separate them from other people. To create a distance. So that to limit opportunities and situations when some kind of assimilation can take place. For the same reason it is prohibited to eat gentile’s bread. The intention is to make sure Jews don’t befriend gentiles. This doesn’t mean that Jews hate, or are supposed to gentiles.

    The Talmud explains the regulations as the means to prevent assimilation.

  299. Bert says:
    @Alden

    Fertility crusader LOL. You can’t even keep straight what the discussion is about. LOL

  300. @Bert

    ‘The likelihood of Ashkenazi evolving genetically based negative ethnocentrism depends in large part on what sort of selection was occurring…’

    There are two further problems with what you are positing.

    First, you implicitly assume a lack of empathy for alien groups is abnormal. I hate to break it to you — but it’s not. How many Allied aircrews felt bad about what they were doing the women and children below them? Did the German and Ukrainian executioners in the Holocaust turn away in empathic horror from their task?

    In Account Rendered, Melita Maschmann recounts how it never occurred to her at the time to feel any compunction about seizing bedding, furniture, etc from Polish families to house German settlers. Do black looters in urban riots stop, overcome with remorse at the lives they are wrecking with their destruction?

    I think not. A lack of empathy is all too universal. So if the Ashkenazim didn’t empathize with their victims, what else is new? This wouldn’t create any unique evolutionary pressure.

    The second problem is that while you assume there was a genetic outflow from the population in question, you fail to consider that there was obviously a genetic inflow. Polish Jews such as Netanyahu look remarkably like gentile Poles. Yishai, the Tunisian Jewish politician, looks almost identical to a gentile Tunisian. That Yemeni Jew who murdered a Palestinian looks above all, like a Yemeni Jew.

    Whatever the theory, genetic material is obviously endlessly flowing into the Jewish population pool as well as out of it.

    So the kind of dramatic, drastic, unique process of natural selection you posit seems extremely unlikely to have occurred in such a relatively short span of time. After all, we’re not talking ten thousand years here, nor are we talking about a rigorous purge of all those lacking the posited genes in favor of those with them, and finally, nothing is being done to prevent genetic contamination.

    I can’t see how you could get your totally non-empathic Ashkenazi by genetic means. All you’re going to wind up with are more mongrels — more or less like all the other dogs in the street.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Bert
  301. @Bert

    Thinking like that you are despising your own people, underestimating them and presenting them as impotent, weak and unintelligent.

    I am of a higher opinion about people of European descent.

  302. @Miggle

    ‘Cuba.”

    Right. First off, through 1989 it was massively subsidized by the Soviet Union.

    As to since — well, the last picture I saw out of cuba showed horse-drawn wagons.

    I’ve seen horse-drawn wagons in Romania. They’re no longer found in such relatively economically successful states as Mexico, or Greece, or Turkey.

    …so if anything, Cuba manages to provide an example of Communism failing in yet another environment.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  303. @Colin Wright

    ‘…I can’t see how you could get your totally non-empathic Ashkenazi by genetic means. All you’re going to wind up with are more mongrels — more or less like all the other dogs in the street.’

    Now train those mongrels to bite people, and you’re getting somewhere.

    …but this is no longer your genetic tendency, but my cultural one.

  304. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    The selection probably started operating in Germany by 700 A.D. and continued as the Ashkenazi spread eastward. All the mechanism required is commercial interaction between different ethnicities who had, as far as the transaction went, different levels of need. There is no reason to suppose that the selection required a formal arrangement like tax farming in order to operate. It probably did become stronger during the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth period. Poland west of Lublin was not ravaged by the Mongols, and Ashkenazi were in Poland long before 1500.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  305. @anon

    ‘he is a fanatic antisemite that want to exclude of any responsability to his “own ” group or what he imagine as his own group the polish nobility ,is true that jews were used as tax collectors in poland but the ones being enriched beyond measure was the novility while jews were able to win only the leftovers .’

    One wonders. This is the sort of thing that suffers by leaving Jewish history in the hands of Jews — who do tend to gloss over whatever details might be less than flattering to their community.

    Just how wealthy did the Jewish population in Poland and the Ukraine become in its heyday — say, in the sixteenth century? How wealthy was it still in the early twentieth century — at least as compared to the gentile peasantry around it?

    I dunno. It’d be nice, though, if the subject was investigated by someone other than Jewish apologists on the one hand, and rabid anti-semites on the other. One thinks of the decidedly illuminating investigations John Klier conducted into what actually happened in the heavily publicized pogroms of the late nineteenth century. The history of Jews in Eastern Europe in general would benefit from more of the same.

  306. Bert says:
    @Colin Wright

    You have framed all your criticisms in black and white terms, for rhetorical purposes I suppose. Empathy is a more normal human emotion than the blood lust you refer to during war. Most soldiers must be indoctrinated to be efficient killers. In WWII the majority in ground combat did not even fire their rifles. See this link.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killology

    The hypothesis I have put forward is about how people could have interacted across ethnic boundaries in normal life over a thousand years in a particular set of social circumstances. Your attempt to reframe it is cheating, unless you believe that posturing as a winner on a thread is more important than seeking what can be logically deduced from an idea.

    There is something in evolutionary biology called “population thinking.” First of all, population thinking recognizes that individuals vary. I have never believed nor claimed that any Ashkenazi is totally non-empathetic. I am positing a difference of degree. But a difference in the mean values of two normal curves (where greater negative ethnocentrism is to the right of the graph for example) will lead to the more negatively ethnocentric population having substantially more individuals beyond any given threshold of negative ethnocentrism. This would explain why Ashkenazi, but not Sephardic, Jews are responsible for almost all of the civilization-destroying initiatives that Kevin MacDonald discussed in Culture of Critique. What is your explanation for this difference between Jews? There are more Ashkenazis, so more bad apples? It’s all cultural from the historical legacy of Marxism? My hypothesis is at least partially testable through experimental psychology and individual-based modeling.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  307. Talha says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The Jews never returned to Poland.

    I thought there were plenty of Jews in Poland in the 20th century, no?

    Also, historically, Jews managed to coexist with Muslims better than with Christians.

    That’s what both the historian Bernard Lewis concluded as well as Mark Cohen in his book that compared their lot under Christian realms and Muslim realms:
    https://www.amazon.com/Under-Crescent-Cross-Jews-Middle/dp/0691139318

    I think this was likely due to Muslims not having this bipolar relationship with them where they gave them the keys to the castle repeatedly and then wondered why things weren’t going as planned. To be honest, Muslims really didn’t give anybody else the keys either; it seems to me to be shortsighted in granting full or high leverage over society to those that may not fully be on board with your worldview. But that’s just me.

    It is now assumed that Jews and Muslims were always bitter enemies but over history this was not true.

    Yeah, it’s basically Zionist propaganda taking advantage of those that are ignorant of history.

    Peace.

  308. Miggle says:
    @Colin Wright

    Right. First off, through 1989 it was massively subsidized by the Soviet Union.

    While brutally sanctioned by the USA for many decades before and after 1989, but no-one there living homeless and sleeping in the streets like in the USA, all able to go to hospital and not come out in debt, and with Cuba providing medical assistance all over the world where natural disasters struck, while the USA didn’t.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  309. Those nice jews dindu nuffin!

    109 times.

    And now they dindu nuffin for the 110th time.

    It’s all your fault goy!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  310. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Jews were similarly lacking in military experience and training at that time, as well as a martial ethos . We’re talking about shtetl Jews from eastern Europe who were derided for their lack of martial prowess.

    This, against armies from five Arab nations, with the Jordanians a professional corp trained and officers by the British. The Jewish community also had inferior and inadequate weaponry.

    While I am not one of those Jews who thinks the Jewish victory was a complete miracle, the Jews were qualititatively and quantitatively outmatched, and one can be forgiven for seeing a whiff of the miraculous in it.

    Especially in the fact that shtetl Jews from a culture without a martial ethos were able to fight to a stalemate British-officered and trained Jordanian troops, from an ancient warrior culture.

  311. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Thank you for explaining, Talha.

    I was just a bit disappointed in seeing you offer an “engineering” explanation rather than primarily a spiritual one – something like, Europeans ditched God and spiritually, and are suffering the consequences (my pet explanation)

    But I like how you say nothing can fully explain it, meaning none of the “secular” explanations are fully up to the job – that opens the door for spiritual explanations. Man, after all, has free will – he is not entirely an engineering product.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Miggle
  312. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    I don’t doubt that the Jews fought well and better than their Arab rivals and were quite well-motivated from what happened in WW2. Other than the Jordanians, who actually did fairly well over all, I simply don’t see the various Arab armies being anywhere near the quality of the Ottoman/Turkish army that was the historic guard of that area for centuries.

    If you want to know a good example, read about the siege of Madinah where a small Ottoman garrison held out against scores of Bedouins even while they were blockaded and starving. They only gave up because Istanbul was forced to by the British. Even then, the commanding officer refused to surrender until junior officers finally decided to relieve him of his command.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  313. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    something like, Europeans ditched God and spiritually, and are suffering the consequences

    Well, that is at the higher (and more substantial) metaphysical plane, but I was focusing more on the plane of causation (most people here are interested in that).

    As far as the metaphysical explanation, I think it is a sound one. You can turn your back on God – well and good, the bigger question is what happens when He reciprocates. God doesn’t appreciate being put in the “friend-zone”:
    “O you who believe – if any among you turn away from faith, God will replace them by others who He loves and who love Him…” (5:54)

    “And be not like those who forgot God and so He caused them to forget their own selves. Those are the rebellious.” (59:19)

    I see no reason why Europeans would be the exception to the general rules that are operative in the universe; His world, we just live in it for a while.

    Peace.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @Talha
  314. @Bert

    ‘…This would explain why Ashkenazi, but not Sephardic, Jews are responsible for almost all of the civilization-destroying initiatives that Kevin MacDonald discussed in Culture of Critique. What is your explanation for this difference between Jews? There are more Ashkenazis, so more bad apples? ‘

    You present this as if, since there is a difference, the explanation must necessarily be genetic.

    Surely it could equally easily be cultural? After all, Sephardic Jewry emerged and developed in the context of gentile cultures at least as sophisticated as the Jews themselves, while the whole history of Ashkenazim has been set against the background of a more or less primitive gentile peasantry. Obviously, this would lead to two completely different sets of cultural attitudes towards ‘the other.’

    I’ll add that since Ashkenazim and Sephardic Jews are two completely different genetic pools to begin with, even if there was a genetic difference, that would demonstrate little, since there would always have been a genetic difference.

    I’l reiterate something I’ve said all along. There could be a genetic explanation for the attitude of Ashkenazim towards the gentile. I just don’t see it as especially likely. I find a cultural explanation more plausible — although there’s no reason both couldn’t be at work. Indeed, the prompt willingness of Ashkenazi Jews to abandon their culture and disappear into the gentiles around them under the right conditions suggests that culture must at least be at work alongside genetics. If Ashkenazi Jews were genetically ‘programmed’ to segregate themselves from gentiles, they could hardly abandon their identity more or less at will.

  315. @AaronB

    ‘…This, against armies from five Arab nations, with the Jordanians a professional corp trained and officers by the British. The Jewish community also had inferior and inadequate weaponry…’

    Not this tripe again.

    To start with, there weren’t ‘five Arab armies.’ The only two powers that seriously intervened were Transjordan and Egypt. Transjordan confined itself to securing the West Bank and then stopped; it never attempted to overrun the part of Palestine allotted to the Jewish state.

    That leaves Egypt — and the British had ensured the Egyptian Army wasn’t a threat, either to them, or as it turned out, to the nascent state of Israel.

    So there was one army — and a universally agreed bad one.

    Shall we move on to arms? In point of fact, Israel was facing a genuine military threat only through the first cease-fire. Thereafter, her forces were vastly superior in every respect to those of her opponents.

  316. @Germanicus

    New information every day; thank you, Germanicus.

    I’ve not been able to track down these stories using internet — not so surprising. But every loose thread eventually connects to a ball of evidence.

  317. @AaronB

    ‘Jews were similarly lacking in military experience and training at that time, as well as a martial ethos . We’re talking about shtetl Jews from eastern Europe who were derided for their lack of martial prowess…’

    Aside from individuals who had served in the various combatant armies, there were two full brigades of Palestinian Jews who had volunteered to fight under British command in World War Two. They avoided serious combat — beating Hitler wasn’t their concern — but they did make sure they received full and complete training.

    This far surpassed anything available to the various Arab combatants. The only decent military formation available to them was the Arab Legion, and even that had consisted of only one lightly armed brigade until a few years before. It had performed well in the British invasions of Iraq and Syria in 1941, but aside from that, had never engaged in combat against a modern foe.

    • Replies: @Talha
  318. Talha says:
    @Talha

    To be honest, the focus of my initial comment to Colin wasn’t really about a deep dive into why Europeans are potentially suffering or in a downward spiral right now – it was more of just a detailed response to him mentioning in-group preferences can be manipulated and “exaggerated or ameliorated according to the environment”. And then presenting the question of whether or not thi kind of effort comes with an eventual price.

    I was just fleshing out some details from one aspect of the equation.

  319. @Robert Dolan

    ‘Those nice jews dindu nuffin!

    109 times.

    And now they dindu nuffin for the 110th time.

    It’s all your fault goy!’

    You seem to have worked it out.

    …but perhaps Aaron or someone will correct you.

    It could happen.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  320. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    If I recall, quite a few Jewish pilots actually had WW2 experience as well. Something that translated to them eventually getting the upper hand on the Arab air forces. That’s not to take away from them; veteran pilots obviously do better than inexperienced ones.

    At the end of the day, it was a really stupid move by the various Arabs; they helped Britain and France dismantle the Ottoman Empire and paid the price for it on the battlefield. File under: own goal.

    Well, at least they got to lose under Arab leadership instead of win under a Turkish one, so there’s that.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Miggle
  321. @Talha

    Heinrich Graetz has some unkind things to say about Jews in Poland
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/45085/45085-h/45085-h.htm
    in the years just before Ben Manasseh’s popularity rose in Netherlands, inducing him to approach the British for re-admission to Britain.

    A few questions for you, Talha, pertaining to your 4-step thesis:

    a. Over what time span was the Polish-Jewish 4-step danced? (How long did it take for the frog to come to the boil?)

    b. In the time-periods under discussion — 10th century? 12th century? 16th century? –What was the nature and level of communication between the leadership that took the loans & granted the tax-farming, with the people upon whom taxes were levied and who paid the taxes?

    c. Did the people who were taxed have i-phones? Uber or at least Zip-cars? Representatives to the king? voting rights?

    d. Did the people who were taxed have the right to select their leaders?

    e. What means of protest or redress did the people who were taxed have?

    f. If the Leaders granted the right to collect taxes as a kind of contract given in trust, i.e. that rules would be followed; and those rules were not followed, at whose feet do you lay the culpability, Talha?

    g. Is it not the case that one of the factors that “sickened” the “Sick Man of Europe” Ottoman Empire, was its fraught financial state?
    (fascinating find relative to the zionist project & Ottomans / financial straits
    https://www.persee.fr/docAsPDF/cemot_0764-9878_1999_num_28_1_1476.pdf. )

    — eager to read your responses & to discuss further.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Colin Wright
  322. @Talha

    ‘At the end of the day, it was a really stupid move by the various Arabs; they helped Britain and France dismantle the Ottoman Empire and paid the price for it on the battlefield. File under: own goal.’

    I don’t think the late Ottoman Empire was anything to hold on to. I’ve read accounts of goings-on in nineteenth century Syria or Iraq; it’s not government so much as survival of the fittest, with the local Ottoman governor-and-troops as big dog on the block.

    In any case, the Ottomans themselves were increasingly seguing into the modern Turkish ethnic state. It’s not like the Arabs were going to be equal partners in whatever came next.

    The Ottoman Empire was a fascinating institution; has there ever been a state as long-lived? After all, ‘Rome’ et al went through successive incarnations; the Ottomans were one continuous dynasty for seven hundred years.

    …but by the early twentieth century, it really had run its course; the Arabs would have been shackling themselves to a corpse if they’d tried to stick with it.

  323. Talha says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Hey S2C,

    a. Not sure, but why should it matter? Let’s say you have a baby tiger – is it better to put him in a cage now or put him in a cage when he is 400 pounds?
    b. Relationship between rulers and ruled was pretty predatory, so I guess it makes sense that they would employ an extra predatory layer.
    c. Nope.
    d. Nope.
    e. Revolt or deal with it.
    f. 1) The people to whom trust was given and 2) the people who gave that trust for making a poor choice – especially if there were signs of malfeasance.
    g. Absolutely – the Ottomans also made similar mistakes in their later times.

    Peace.

  324. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    In any case, the Ottomans themselves were increasingly seguing into the modern Turkish ethnic state.

    OK – good point there – this can’t be neglected. The Turks weren’t wholly innocent in the breaking of ties.

    has there ever been a state as long-lived?

    I don’t believe so – not under a single dynastic lineage as you pointed out. Sure they had an interruption and interregnum, but they recovered from that. Of course, they did put into place a fairly brutal and unique policy to prevent that from occurring – so maybe that’s one reason why they were so long lasting?

    the Arabs would have been shackling themselves to a corpse if they’d tried to stick with it.

    I guess I do have to agree with you and would only disagree if there had been a chance that the Ottomans could have avoided the ethno-nationalism bug that was biting everyone at the time, but yeah, if you are an Arab, why would you want to be run by Kemalist Turks?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  325. I’m thankful for writers like Joyce, McDonald, and others, but you only have to be observant to see the toxic nature of Jews. Any non-Jew who isn’t an anti-semite is either stupid, ignorant, or benefiting from Jewish actions.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  326. @SolontoCroesus

    ‘…a. Over what time span was the Polish-Jewish 4-step danced? (How long did it take for the frog to come to the boil?)

    b. In the time-periods under discussion — 10th century? 12th century? 16th century? –What was the nature and level of communication between the leadership that took the loans & granted the tax-farming, with the people upon whom taxes were levied and who paid the taxes?

    c. Did the people who were taxed have i-phones? Uber or at least Zip-cars? Representatives to the king? voting rights?

    d. Did the people who were taxed have the right to select their leaders?

    e. What means of protest or redress did the people who were taxed have?

    f. If the Leaders granted the right to collect taxes as a kind of contract given in trust, i.e. that rules would be followed; and those rules were not followed, at whose feet do you lay the culpability, Talha?’

    I think one aspect of this that needs to be clarified is to what extent the Jews were used to exploit Poles and to what extent they were used to exploit the Orthodox Christian Ukrainian and White Russian peasantry?

    To put it differently, what was the role of Jews in Western Poland — as opposed to say from a line from Lemberg to Brest and points east.

    It starts to become an obscure point, but can the Poles be accused of cannibalism if they found the Jews useful to milk not themselves, but their Ukrainian and White Russian subjects?

    My suspicion is that Jews did not play a particularly exploitative role in ‘old’ Poland, but rather, accompanied the Polish magnates as they established control over the wreckage of ‘rus in the wake of the Mongol-Tartar invasions, serving them as middlemen in the economic exploitation and religious oppression of Poland’s newly acquired Orthodox Christian subjects. I’m imagining (that word is chosen advisedly) a more traditional regime further west, with petty Polish nobility directly ruling over villages of Polish serfs — without any need for Jewish intermediaries.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  327. @Talha

    ‘…For instance – related to what I posted, they did a study on an isolated white population (Iceland in this case) and found that over time, their seems to be a “sweet spot” regarding how prolific certain couplings are compared to others:
    “Couples who are third or fourth cousins tend to have more kids and grandkids than other couples. And though considered somewhat of a cultural taboo, mating between ‘kissing cousins’ makes good biological sense, say scientists.”…’

    That reminds me. I spent a few hours in Reykjavik airport — which is a wildly inadequate basis for generalizations, I know — and what struck me about Icelanders is that they all look vaguely related. A pack of Iceland Airlines (or whatever it is) stewardesses look like a group at a family reunion.

    Of course, with only a quarter of a million people, and no genetic inflow to speak of for roughly a millennium, they more or less all are related.

    • Replies: @Talha
  328. @Colin Wright

    Useful shift of focus, Colin Wright.

    First question to Talha was inchoate but attempted to get at the long span of time over which Polish-Jewish relations developed.
    (Talha, “it matters” for many reasons, most of them having to do with acuteness of awareness that a portion of the population is being oppressed. The harshness with which you blamed the oppressed for allowing themselves to become oppressed piqued my interest, particularly as the Oppressed / non-nobility had so few means of resisting.)

    Colin, as I understand it, you are suggesting that the relationship between Polish nobility and Jewish middlemen (Yuri Slezkine would call them “Mercurians,”) differed over time and circumstances, dependent upon some Other perceived adversary.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  329. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Makes sense actually given what you outlined.

    Peace.

  330. @SolontoCroesus

    ‘…Colin, as I understand it, you are suggesting that the relationship between Polish nobility and Jewish middlemen (Yuri Slezkine would call them “Mercurians,”) differed over time and circumstances, dependent upon some Other perceived adversary.’

    My understanding is that there was ‘old’ Poland: the peripheral medieval European state that existed from about the year 1000 to the late Eighteenth Century. Then there were the lands Poland acquired in the ‘Grosser Poland’ era — from something like 1400 a.d. to maybe 1650.

    Those later lands were inhabited by an Orthodox Christian peasantry — as opposed to the Catholicism of their new Polish masters. It was here that the Jews proved useful as intermediaries: to collect rents, to lock up Orthodox churches, etc.

    I am guessing that the role Jews played here was different than the role Jews played in ‘old’ Poland — where both the peasants and their noble overlords were Catholic, and where I suspect the nobility was numerous enough to render Jewish middlemen superfluous. After all, if you own ten serfs, you don’t need any agents. If you own ten thousand, it’s a different matter.

    At least, so I would assume. I haven’t owned any serfs at all. Not even my cat.

  331. @OilcanFloyd

    ‘I’m thankful for writers like Joyce, McDonald, and others, but you only have to be observant to see the toxic nature of Jews. Any non-Jew who isn’t an anti-semite is either stupid, ignorant, or benefiting from Jewish actions.’

    Meh. I remember the days before I started to notice Israel and the ever-expanding circle of moral filth emanating from that. That would have been around the year 2000.

    It’s a subjective definition, but for about the first forty years of my life, something like thirty percent of my ‘social circle’ — so to speak — were Jewish.

    They were just fine — as fine as anyone else, at any rate. To put it differently, Jewishness or lack thereof just wasn’t a significant attribute to my mind.

    You might as well have asked me if x was right-handed or left-handed. I just didn’t care — nor ever encounter any reason to care.

    Here’s a telling anecdote. I’d always assumed my first significant girlfriend — the kind where it really bothers you when you break up — was Jewish. But thinking back, I can recall her recounting anecdotes about her mother’s childhood in China with her missionary parents.

    Kinda kicks the ‘Jewish’ theory in the head, doesn’t it? But the real point is, whether or not someone was Jewish just didn’t matter to me.

    …not until I started noticing Israel.

    And the rest is history.

  332. @Talha

    ‘…I don’t believe so – not under a single dynastic lineage as you pointed out. Sure they had an interruption and interregnum, but they recovered from that. Of course, they did put into place a fairly brutal and unique policy to prevent that from occurring – so maybe that’s one reason why they were so long lasting?”

    Here, note that the custom of having all your siblings strangled as soon as you ascended to the throne was set aside with Suleiman the Magnificent.

    Thereafter, younger brothers were merely confined to the harem — a custom which proved singularly deleterious, as it led to sultans coming to the throne who had all but literally never been out of doors in their adult lives.

    What is remarkable is that the Ottoman Empire soldiered on anyway — through the Selim the Sots and the Hakims the Mad, and so on. As late as the eighteenth century, it was still a formidable military power, too — as the Russians, Austrians, and Venetians all discovered.

    There was some glue there. What is was, I dunno — but there was more to that state than meets the eye.

    • Replies: @Talha
  333. geokat62 says:

    Take heart… there is a proposal for ending anti-semitism.

    “Anti-Semitism Will End When They [Jews] are a Light on to the Nations”

    Translation: “When the Moshiach comes, Anti-Semitism Will End”.

    The irony is, the Goyim won’t have any say in it.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  334. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    …not until I started noticing Israel.

    for most others it’s more like

    …not until I started noticing being replaced.

    And the rest is history.

    and if more of the dumb goyim don’t wake up to this realization fast, they will be history!

  335. Miggle says:
    @Bert

    The selection probably started operating in Germany by 700 A.D. and continued as the Ashkenazi spread eastward.

    Spread eastward???
    Fled eastward?

    Evidence please. How did a tiny population of German Jews produce a gigantic population of East-European Jews?

    Where is the evidence of a massive flight eastward? Yes, there was persecution, the Black Death era, other occasions, but even in that connection I have seen no credible account of a massive stampede into Eastern Europe. And of course all Jewish accounts of their persecution are massively exaggerated. Chmielnitsky, the Holocaust etc. etc.

    I have read that at the time of the First Crusade pogroms the Jews returned home afterwards, did not flee to a different region en-mass, or at all (Runciman, The First Crusade). Why would later occasions be different?

    My comment 291 stands. Ashkenazi Jews sprang up independently at both ends of Europe as proselytes, because Ashkenazi means European. And Japhethite.

    • Replies: @Miggle
    , @Wizard of Oz
  336. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    There was some glue there. What is was, I dunno — but there was more to that state than meets the eye.

    There was. It took getting dog piled on by multiple empires at the same time for it to go down. Constantly evolving too; from the time of swords and spears to becoming a formidable gunpowder empire to fielding an early air force. Pretty impressive record altogether.

    But, it is the way of the world that anything that rises, must eventually fall.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  337. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Ok, that makes sense.

    The Turks have always had a reputation for being fine soldiers. Although, they really aren’t Turks, but rather a mixed lot – Greeks, Slavs, Turks , Kurds, Armenians, etc.

    But as Colin Wright points out, something forged them into a formidable and united people.

    It really gives the lie to the absurd idea that only race is an effective basis for unity – united polyglot empires like the Ottomans, and savage civil wars like those that wracked Europe, should really once and for all put to rest such silliness.

    I’m fact, same race European armies frequently betrayed each other when fighting the Turks and failed to unite effectively until rather late.

    Identity and unity is forged out of ideas – physical facts mean nothing without ideas to give them significance.

  338. @Anonymouse

    Steal billions from the US? Just factor in the war on terror and you soon realize that Israel has cost us trillions.

  339. @Colin Wright

    The peasant having his milk cow stolen by the Jewish tax collector is going to immediately focus on the wretch dooming his family to starvation and won’t worry about the fine points, such as that the thief dragging away Bossy only gets a small cut for his heartlessness and is doing it for the benefit of the man in the castle. Criminal henchmen, even if they are only middle men, shouldn’t pearl clutch in indignation when their victims fight back and get the chance to burn out them and their families.

    As an aside, Edward I was one of the greatest English kings. By expelling his (((tax collectors))) from England, he and his successor were forced to call regular parliaments to raise revenue for the crown.

    Woe to the people of a nation who are ruled by a foreign elite, especially by an “elite” taught to see the members of the out-group as so many sheep to be fleeced. Having a foreign “elite” acting as middlemen retards and weakens representative government.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  340. @geokat62

    No one can be a light on to anyone else without first being a light on to one’s self. To even begin to be a light on to one’s self requires making an honest self-assessment, which requires humility first. But acquiring humility is made impossible by clinging to the belief that one is above all others.

    Hence, unless something radically changes in the belief system, they will never be a light on to the nations.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Parfois1
    • Replies: @Miggle
  341. @National Action

    As things get worse more and more Whites Are not buying it.

    Supposedly Edward Bernays said “I could sell tuburculosis to everybody in America, but only once.”.

    Counterinsurgency

  342. @Lot

    Lol

    It’s going to be fun watching you guys get crushed in the coming decades. Between the Chinese, browns and blacks who simply see you as white and couldn’t care less about the Hoaxacaust, and of course a minority white bloc, racially aware and racially assertive.

    McDonald got gate kept and deplatformed like anyone else who notices the Jews.

    You guys really are pathetic. You really think a gay comment like that had any impact? And then a bunch of people probably in the same room as you set about with inane replies.

    The racial endgame isn’t going to end how it’s expected to end.

  343. Lol I just found out that Jews get interest free loans in Australia.

    But they all make it by working really hard. And bring smarter then everyone else. Lol. It’s a joke.

  344. Parfois1 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    marxists slaughtered over 100 million innocent people in the 20th century.

    Probably your estimate is very conservatively on the lower side and a correction is called for. Besides you forgot to add all other millions since the French Revolution (they were proto-communist after all, read Babeuf’s writings). How about doubling it to well-deserved 200 million?

    Also don’t forget to tell the publishers of the Guinness Book of World Records about your “discovery”.

    PS1 – Come to think of it, many of the Roundheads (especially the aptly named Levellers and Diggers) were also proto-communists and that may require a further revision of the tally because their rebellion led to the Puritans’ migration to America and consequent slaughter of many more people, namely the natives, plus all subsequent wars before and after the US independence up to the ongoing US government (it is frequently called here Marxist and communist for good reason)’s slaughters by drones at weddings and funerals. Maybe it should be doubled again to a more believable 400 million.

    PS2 – Come to think of it again, the Marxists, being good socialists and communists, are very much concerned about the effects of overpopulation and their Malthusian side comes occasionally to the fore; hence their “positive check” to avoid the bestiality of cannibalism and other morally repugnant sins. After all their efforts are well-meaning.

    PS3 – How forgetful of me! I overlooked that Christ himself was also a Marxist… and that requires a further revision. All those slaughters carried out by and against Christians…and so on.

  345. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    Let me add that a Jewish propagandist, Leon Uris, skilfully turning his propaganda into a romantic novel, displaying the typical Jewish lying, said what you, Bert, are saying, that the Yiddishland Jews originated in Western Europe. But he goes on to say that when they reached Poland they were persecuted there. From memory (haven’t looked at Exodus for years) even that liar doesn’t claim (in that context) that persecution in the West sent them east, but definitely says they were persecuted when they reached their destination in Eastern Europe.

    Which makes it even more absurd to say the East European Jews originated in the West.

    Yes, I’ve seen other stories, like DNA testing proves that their maternal origins are in Italy. Don’t fall for abstruse and self-serving claims without the most careful examination.

  346. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    It really gives the lie to the absurd idea that only race is an effective basis for unity

    Absolutely – the (mostly) Western European Crusaders were beaten back by armies made up of Kurds, Turks, Arabs, various Caucasians, Persians and even Nubians (these guys in particular were prized archers at the time).

    But if you have already put aside other basis for unity, then you have to grasp for something. And since clans and tribes aren’t around anymore, you can’t really use those as a basis for unity by blood heritage so, again, you are forced to grasp for something less qualitative but hope nobody notices the seams and patches.

    Identity and unity is forged out of ideas – physical facts mean nothing without ideas to give them significance.

    I’d generally agree here. Even “unity through race” is an idea that a more amorphous “race” concept deserves more loyalty due to blood heritage than one’s own clan, tribe or ethno-linguistic grouping.

    But there is an aspect of a natural blood component as well – one has to find a sweet spot. For instance, the Rashidun armies that rolled over Persia and Byzantium were often organized in units composed by tribe. Khalid Ibn Walid (ra) found that having the various fighters fight cohesively under their own tribal banners worked more effectively than mixing them up in units.

    Peace.

  347. @Talha

    ‘There was. It took getting dog piled on by multiple empires at the same time for it to go down…’

    Well, there were a number of factors at work there. Suffice it to say that in their heyday, the Ottomans wouldn’t have been unduly fazed by the less-than-supportive attitude of the various Christian powers. In fact, the Turks were the great foreign menace of about the fourteenth through the seventeenth century, with various crusades and attempts to unite against them. The Turks of the day didn’t find it too much to handle.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Seraphim
  348. @AaronB

    ‘It really gives the lie to the absurd idea that only race is an effective basis for unity – united polyglot empires like the Ottomans, and savage civil wars like those that wracked Europe, should really once and for all put to rest such silliness.’

    Sure. You just need some clear organizing principle providing for social stratification, separate courts for separate folks, etc.

    What doesn’t mix is egalitarianism and ethnic diversity.

    …Interesting, though, that you post this shortly after you expressed admiration for Israel — the great exemplar of exclusion and oppression. I take it ‘diversity’ is just for us goyim, eh?

    …one also notices the curious congruence between the rantings of some of our resident anti-semites and your actual views.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  349. @AaronB

    ‘…But as Colin Wright points out, something forged them into a formidable and united people…’

    Actually, I said nothing of the kind.

  350. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘The peasant having his milk cow stolen by the Jewish tax collector is going to immediately focus on the wretch dooming his family to starvation and won’t worry about the fine points…’

    Indeed. What is also inconsistent here is that while Jews would have us excuse the arendar because he was ‘only’ a middleman, they’re hell on demanding condign punishment for all those poor bastard Ukrainians who chose serving as Trawniki men over a slow death by starvation in a German P.O.W. camp. Those intermediaries don’t get out of much.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  351. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    The Turks of the day didn’t find it too much to handle.

    True, they were able to trounce multiple unified Crusader-style armies. Actually if you look at the history, there was little to stand in the way of the Ottoman juggernaut rolling through Europe after defeating a united Crusader force at Nicopolis – the Crusader army was nearly wiped out and there was little chance the various kingdoms would have been able to raise replacement armies in time if the Ottomans pressed forward.

    What stopped them was an attack by Tamerlane from the East which led to the capture of the Ottoman caliph and the brutal civil war of succession in the Ottoman Empire. After that, even though they recovered enough to take Constantinople, you had the rise of Persia under the Safavids, Qajars, etc. and the Eastern front was constantly at risk and repeated wars going well into the 19th century – interestingly Persia proved pretty much a match for the Ottomans, they were constantly struggling relatively evenly over their shared border winning and losing and not really budging all that much either way. With the Ottomans losing the ability to concentrate fully on their European front ever again, history was thus written.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  352. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Israel is in this respect exactly like the Ottoman empire.

    Great ethnic and racial diversity united by a shared culture, religion, and sense of purpose.

    Again, we see polyglot and diverse Israel defeat the racially similar Arabs who have lost the ability to effectively unite.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  353. melpol says:
    @lavoisier

    Tolerance is not practiced or believed by Jews. It is ordained by the US government to promote social stability. I as a Jew get annoyed when outsiders invade my space, and am not a tolerant Jew. My Jewish employer expected all his workers to be tolerant. His motive was to prevent blacks and white workers from quarreling instead of producing goods.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  354. @Colin Wright

    I dunno. It’d be nice, though, if the subject was investigated by someone other than Jewish apologists on the one hand, and rabid anti-semites on the other.
    ——————————————-
    They only become rabid? Classic post-hoc fallacy.

    I studied early Christianity. I came to admire Christianity. That didn’t stop me from seeing how the Church later competed against and destroyed clan/tribe structures. I didn’t end up concluding Christianity was an evil but that at a certain point the Church filled a power vacuum and was inevitably corrupted.
    I studied satanism and Luciferianism and found them to be very specific and evil types of pagan religions. I consider myself an anti-satanist and anti-Luciferian.
    I also studied early Judaism and it’s evolution into Talmudic Judaism. I consider the Talmud to be an evil hateful book, proposing an evil hateful ideology. The people who follow it and those influenced by it engage in evil. No post hoc fallacy here.

  355. @Anon

    so what are you trying to say, that the arabs conspired to deliberately lose the war to pave the way for what we see ever since and to this very day?

    Anyhow my point was about them laying claim to the land and not acting religious and im not talking about the extremist settler kind of religious. As far as I am aware orthodox Judaism is the closest to the original form of Judaism (if it was even called this back then) and since the area of Jerusalem is held sacred by the 3 Abrahamic faiths they should be allowed to practice freely, (and not in an imposing manner) but practising they must be! As the area does have religious history and connotations just like Europe and America have religious as well as non-religious connotations. As far as I can tell Israel is majority a nation of atheists but that demographic is apparently (according to some sources) dwindling as all the religious minded folk in and around the area are in a race to outbreed each other. I think this is probably true and is borne out by the fact that religious folk don’t have the same mentality as irreligious folk in that they see the world as a temporary phase. in their existence. Hence they wont sacrifice a future generation of a multitude of offspring in place of amassing luxuries that could be obtained instead.

    Lets hope cooler heads prevail going forth

  356. @Colin Wright

    The Ottoman Empire was a fascinating institution; has there ever been a state as long-lived?
    ===========================================
    yes. The Roman Empire in the East. It is called Byzantium for purposes of obfuscation.

    Constantine 1 hated Rome. Visited once and never returned. He was a Roman from modern day Dalmatia – the Virginia of Rome. They fought the Roman Empire into existence. He moved the centre of gravity in the Empire to Constantinople. It remained there for 11 centuries.
    In many ways, the Anatolian people are the Roman Empire with a Turkish superstructure on top- language and religion. The Ottoman Empire was very similiar to it’s ancient enemy, the Roman Empire. It absorbed it over time: 700 years.

    • Replies: @Talha
  357. Talha says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    with a Turkish superstructure on top- language and religion

    And if you dig a little deeper, all of that is influenced from Persia; from language to religion to governing structures and even aesthetics – much of Ottoman high culture was from Persia.

    Some of their titles were copied over with slight change:
    “The title derives from the Persian silahdar, meaning “arms-bearer”, a title originally adopted by the Great Seljuks to denote one of the Sultan’s principal aides, who bore his weapon and was responsible for the army’s arsenal.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silahdar_Agha

    Peace.

  358. @AaronB

    ‘Israel is in this respect exactly like the Ottoman empire.

    Great ethnic and racial diversity united by a shared culture, religion, and sense of purpose….’

    So Jews are different…but they’re the same.

    The various Jewish groups in Israel aren’t actually united at all, and a good many would like to leave, but have that for the moment. You do treat those you perceive as different worse than most countries treat dogs. After all, just try shooting a dog out of hand in a civilized country. There isn’t a more racist state on the planet than Israel.

    There’s als0 the minor point that whatever its internal inequities, the Ottoman Empire was composed of people actually indigenous to its territories, and it was a place where whatever your background, you could participate in the state. Neither one of these applies to Israel.

    • Agree: Miggle
  359. @melpol

    melpol, self-identified Jew:

    Tolerance is not practiced or believed by Jews.

    Andrew Joyce:

    Place it in a medical context, and tolerance means “the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific toxin or other foreign substance which induces an immune response in the body, especially the production of antibodies.”

    Dave Rubin (Jewish) of Prager U (Jewish):
    Leftists Don’t Value Tolerance

    but Right – Conservatives DO value tolerance, quoth Rubin.

    The video opens with 15 seconds of an angry mob shouting incoherently. Rubin’s videographers helpfully attached dialog bubbles: “Nazi scum . . . Nazi scum . . .”

    One assumes that, in Rubin / Prager U world, calling someone “Nazi scum” is THE prime example of intolerance.

    Rubin then defines tolerance:

    “The ability to live with people whose opinions and behavior you don’t agree with. That’s essentially how Oxford . . . Merriam Webster . . . and how we as a society have always defined it. “

    Here’s Oxford (Learner’s) Dictionary:

    tolerance (of/for somebody/something) the willingness to accept or tolerate someone or something, especially opinions or behavior that you may not agree with, or people who are not like you

    see zero tolerance*

    tolerance (to something) the ability to suffer something, especially pain, difficult conditions, etc. without being harmed

    *zero tolerance: the policy of applying laws very strictly so that people are punished even for offenses that are not very serious

    Merriam-Webster reverses the order- and expands nuance of the meanings of tolerance:

    1 : capacity to endure pain or hardship : ENDURANCE, FORTITUDE, STAMINA

    2a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one’s own
    b : the act of allowing something : TOLERATION

    3 : the allowable deviation from a standard
    especially : the range of variation permitted in maintaining a specified dimension in machining a piece

    4a(1) : the capacity of the body to endure or become less responsive to a substance (such as a drug) or a physiological insult especially with repeated use or exposure
    developed a tolerance to painkillers
    also : the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific antigen
    (2) : relative capacity of an organism to grow or thrive when subjected to an unfavorable environmental factor
    b : the maximum amount of a pesticide residue that may lawfully remain on or in food

    Rubin offered a third source for a definition of tolerance: “We as a society. . . “

    AS IT HAPPENS, Unz Video Channel and Prager U posted a seeming spokesman for We as a Society in this video Preview of Candace Owens speaking with Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas), who affirmed his Conservative leanings; Dave Rubin declared that though he used to be a Liberal, he is now a Conservative, at least when it comes to Tolerance.

    https://www.unz.com/video/prageru_trailer-the-candace-owens-show-featuring-rep-dan-crenshaw/

    The 90-second Owens-Crenshaw clip is a tickler; no thoughts were fully developed. But in a June 26, 2019 House hearing on Social Media Monitoring, Rep. Crenshaw began his questioning of Social Media executives by taking them to task for labeling Conservatives Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and Dennis Prager as Nazis. Crenshaw said,

    “Two of Three of these people are very religious Jews, and yet you think they’re Nazis. It begs the question, What kind of education do people at Google have? Do they think that religious Jews are Nazis?
    Three of three of these people had family members killed in the holocaust. Ben Shapiro is the Number One target of the Alt-Right, and yet you people operate off the premise that he’s a Nazi. This is pretty disturbing.”

    Crenshaw then called upon Derek Slater, the Google executive to define hate speech and to give one example of Shapiro, Peterson or Prager using hate speech, which he could not/did not.

    Then Crenshaw linked hate speech to violence to the Nazi label, based on a societal standard he defined:

    “Do you believe speech can be violence? Not, can you incite violence, that is very clearly not protected. But can speech just be violent? Speech that isn’t calling for violence can be labeled violent and therefore harmful and therefore hateful.

    [Slater asks for clarification]

    DC: Here’s the thing: When you call somebody a Nazi, you can make the argument that you’re inciting violence. And here’s how: As a country we all agree that Nazis are bad; we actually invaded an entire continent to defeat the Nazis. It’s normal to say hash-tag punch a Nazi because there’s this common thread in this country that they’re bad and that they’re evil and that they should be destroyed. You’re operating off of that premise and frankly it’s a good premise to operate on.
    Well, what you’re implying then is that it’s OK to use violence against them.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?462052-1/social-media-content-monitoring&start=5511

    That is to say, “tolerance” includes “agreeing that Nazis are bad and evil;”
    tolerance includes normalizing “saying #punch a Nazi;”
    tolerance includes believing “Nazis should be destroyed . . . good premises to operate on,” because that is “how we as a society have always defined it.”

    Which means that the dialog bubbles that opened Dave Rubin’s video were exactly the opposite of his argument: American society is rightly “tolerant” of expressing intolerance of Nazis, and advocating for their destruction is “normal.”

    This begs Rep. Crenshaw’s own question:

    What kind of education do the people in Rubin’s punditry class and in the US Congress have?

    Crenshaw reasons that it is “normal” to say “#punch a Nazi” and that “Nazis should be destroyed” because USA went to war against Nazis (and destroyed them).

    It is “disturbing” to call Jewish people whose family members died in that war “Nazis,” but, presumably, it is “normal” to consider non-Jewish people whose family members died in that war “evil” and to “#punch a Nazi.”

    That is the sort of irrationality that corrupts our culture when the lies of holocaustism are permitted to stand unchallenged.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @SolontoCroesus
  360. anon[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymouse

    Brit did not resist . They had doubt about the painless ness and effortlessness of the success . They limited immigration to some extent sometimes but they always succumbed to the Jewish pressure .

  361. anon[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    For decades , Arab leaders have Ben called Hitler .

    But Hitler is a name that you can’t christen a baby anymore in Europe and culturally is prohibited to be used as a normal name in American social circle .

    For years , this has been one of the many mechanisms by which American minds have been poisoned againt
    Arab .

    American media actively participated with it .

    Hate speech was all to it when America was repeatedly reminded by people like Kristol and Joe Lieberman reminded the American that 17 Muslim hijackers attacked USA on 911.

    Their purpose was global war against Muslim
    Their logo was War on Terror .

    T

  362. @renfro

    I love that Russia is almost always a ME/Arab savior to fruit loops like you. Why on Earth would Moscow want to go along with your shitty ideas? They have their own plans for the region and care about the white nationalist POV as little as they do about Washington’s. Even for you, this post was mental masturbation. Grow TF up.

  363. @Colin Wright

    I cannot read a story about some 90 year old tried for crimes against humanity because he was the 17 year old assistant to some grocery man who supplied the camps without wondering about how many NKVD mass murderers, responsible for the deaths of millions, enjoyed happy retirements on the beaches of Tel Aviv.

  364. @Talha

    ‘True, they were able to trounce multiple unified Crusader-style armies. Actually if you look at the history, there was little to stand in the way of the Ottoman juggernaut rolling through Europe after defeating a united Crusader force at Nicopolis – the Crusader army was nearly wiped out and there was little chance the various kingdoms would have been able to raise replacement armies in time if the Ottomans pressed forward.’

    You assume the rather disorganized Europeans of the era had actually committed anything like their total military resources to the crusade. That, I doubt. In fact, I imagine they would have resisted an Ottoman incursion about as effectively after Nicopolis as before it. These were not modern states, capable of waging total war. For better or worse, (perhaps better in this case) an enterprise like a crusade could only attract a fraction of their available manpower.

    Equally importantly, there’s the matter of ‘could’ and ‘would.’

    First, ‘could.’ Both the Christian states and the Ottomans had considerable difficulty projecting military power to the other side of the Balkans. On the one hand, this explains why Austria survived the two or three centuries of Ottoman military superiority; Turkish expeditions tended to end with decimated armies abandoning sieges with the onset of winter and returning to Istanbul. On the other hand, this is also why Turkey continued to rule most of its Balkan holdings for a good hundred years after it had become clearly inferior to the West militarily; it just wasn’t that easy for either Austria or Russia to cross the Balkans (or Eastern Anatolia) and come out the side with a large enough force and enough campaigning weather left to win a decisive victory.

    In passing, I’ll note that the same principle applied in the East, and this is why the boundary between Rome/the Ottomans and Iran has tended to move back and forth across Armenia et al — but rarely permitted either side to decisively advance into the other’s heartland. A study of the terrain in Eastern Anatolia makes it clear why. This is not easy country. In fact, it wouldn’t be too much to describe the three hundred miles between Erzerum and Yerevan as howling wilderness.

    Now as ‘would.’ What would Turkey have done after Nicopolis if Tamerlane hadn’t showed up and killed everybody?

    Advance into Central Europe? I doubt it. The first order of business would be what it was anyway — take Constantinople. Even assuming that Nicopolis had critically weakened the West, and assuming the Turks could have taken advantage of that fact, I think they would have focussed on Constantinople. Assuming they managed to take it — it was hard enough to do in 1453 and would have been harder fifty years earlier — then they might have turned northwest — but they could equally well have been drawn to add Syria, Iraq, and Egypt to their empire first.

    In short, I don’t see Nicopolis as having opened some window of opportunity that only the disaster at Angora prevented the Turks from exploiting. Obviously, history would have been different had Tamerlane stayed to the East, but radically different?

    I’d guess not. Turkey would have had its centuries in the sun, then the balance would have shifted over the course of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. One victory more or less wouldn’t have changed that.

    • Replies: @Talha
  365. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘I cannot read a story about some 90 year old tried for crimes against humanity because he was the 17 year old assistant to some grocery man who supplied the camps without wondering about how many NKVD mass murderers, responsible for the deaths of millions, enjoyed happy retirements on the beaches of Tel Aviv.’

    Equally to the point, how many of those who would condemn such figures are actually qualified to pass judgement on people who had to choose between starving to death and doing the Germans’ dirty work for them?

    Such judges should be locked up in a cage to starve. Each day, bring a child and say ‘strangle the child and you can leave.’

    Those who stay to the point of death may serve as judges.

  366. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘I cannot read a story about some 90 year old tried for crimes against humanity because he was the 17 year old assistant to some grocery man who supplied the camps without wondering about how many NKVD mass murderers, responsible for the deaths of millions, enjoyed happy retirements on the beaches of Tel Aviv.’

    Actually, the one I found grimly amusing was the tale of the book keeper at Auschwitz.

    I guess it was about twenty years ago that an already-elderly German who was living undisturbed got tired of hearing Holocaust denial claims. He came forward and said ‘look, it happened: I was there. I was in the SS at Auschwitz and I counted the shoes ‘n stuff. All those Jews were actually gassed. No foolin.’

    He didn’t have to do this. No one had ferreted him out. His war record was quite unknown.

    But he came forward, and did the right thing, and said his piece, and returned to obscurity — or so he thought.

    Recently, charges were filed against him. No good deed goes unpunished, as they say.

  367. Wow, the Jews must really be worried about the truth bombs in this piece. Notice all the “hey!! Look over here, don’t look there!!”

    I was a filthy kike before I escaped. Bris and bar mitzvah at one of the larger Chabad Shuls in LA. Super Frum for years as an adult Bal teshuva…ironically it was in study of Maimonides (Rambam) that I discovered Aquinas and then slowly back—Bernard, Augustine, Tertulian, Clement (Rome and Alexandria), Origen, and finally Paul and then Christ. But for the Grace of God, I would be a filthy Jew still.

  368. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘…without wondering about how many NKVD mass murderers, responsible for the deaths of millions, enjoyed happy retirements on the beaches of Tel Aviv.’

    Retirement, hell. Israel made at least one of its mass murderers prime minister.

  369. geokat62 says:

    Bombshell episode of TruNews in which Edward Szall interviews Whitney Webb of Mint Press News who shines a light on the network of Jewish Supremacists that is lurking in the shadows.

    MEGA Spies: Israeli Espionage in America from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump

    Today on TruNews, we discuss the history of Israeli spying in the United States, and specifically the MEGA scandal under Bill Clinton, and the alleged MEGA Group, which includes Epstein’s mentor and client Les Wexner. We detail who the members of that group are, what they are doing and how they are tied into the crusade for Global Zionism and Greater Israel, and we specifically discuss the secret untold history of Les Wexner’s rise to prominence, including his alleged ties to the Jewish Mafia and Mossad.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  370. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    And Cuba has relatively fewer political prisoners and arbitrary detentions, relatively fewer imprisonments for any credible reason, than does the USA, which is notorious for having the highest incarceration rates in the world, and which keeps many of its prisoners … in Cuba!

  371. Miggle says:
    @AaronB

    Europeans ditched God and spiritually, and are suffering the consequences (my pet explanation)

    That’s a good reason for the “Holocaust”. Why did God let it happen? (If it did.) Because the Jews ditched God and spirituality and suffered and are suffering the consequences. Legalistic rituality is not spirituality. Faith and ritual are different things. No more vicious denial of God could be seen that in the multiple murders of unarmed civilians that are the mark of Israel.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  372. @SolontoCroesus

    I did it again: open mouth, insert foot–

    First of all, Dave Rubin did NOT say he’s a Conservative; he said he’s still a Liberal. Specifically, he said, “I would rather stand for what I believe in and be hated than bow down and be loved.”
    He closed his 4 minute talk with, “The Right believes in Live and Let Live, and that is the true meaning of tolerance.”
    Right on, bro.

    More importantly, Rubin posted a quick new video giving more details about the opening 15 seconds of “Left does not like tolerance.” The focus was on the 81 year old woman who was being harassed by Antifa, whose shouts, “Nazi scum, get off our streets” are clearly heard.

    Of course, that’s horrible.

    The woman made her way through the crowd and into the event, then spoke out in defense of free speech. Good for her, and good for Dave Rubin for shining a spotlight on the situation.

    And my apologies to Dave Rubin for aiming my weapon at the wrong target.

    While I feel embarrassed, I still insist on the larger point made by quoting Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw’s comments in a Congressional hearing, where he said:

    “When you call somebody a Nazi, you can make the argument that you’re inciting violence.
    And here’s how: As a country we all agree that Nazis are bad; we actually invaded an entire continent to defeat the Nazis. It’s normal to say hash-tag punch a Nazi because there’s this common thread in this country that they’re bad and that they’re evil and that they should be destroyed. You’re operating off of that premise and frankly it’s a good premise to operate on.
    Well, what you’re implying then is that it’s OK to use violence against them.”

    No, Mr. Crenshaw, it is NOT “normal” to say #Punch a Nazi, it’s hate speech. It is NOT, or should not be a “common thread” that Nazis are “evil and should be destroyed,” and that is NOT “a good premise” to operate on, it’s a factually incorrect, philosophically dubious and strategically dangerous premise.

    When my time in the penalty box is up, I’ll deal with you, Mr. Crenshaw. This ain’t over.

  373. Miggle says:
    @Talha

    At the end of the day, it was a really stupid move by the various Arabs;

    I agree that the Arabs were betrayed by Britain. T. E. Lawrence was betrayed by the Brits, despite being one. But are you saying it was “stupid” for the Arabs (and Lawrence) to trust Britain? I don’t see stupidity on their part.

  374. AaronB says:
    @Miggle

    Many Jews believe the Holocaust happened because of our sins, correct. It is a very mainstream Jewish opinion.

    If you read the OT, you will see that our standard explanation for catastrophes that befall the Jewish nation is our own sins.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  375. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Excellent points, thanks for adding those to the discussion. The point about terrain is a good one.

    Peace.

  376. Zumbuddi says:
    @geokat62

    Bear Stearns CEO Jimmy Cayne was Michael Ledeen’s long-term patron.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  377. Miggle says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    You say “belief system” but David Ben-Gurion, the creator of Israel, was an atheist. But still a Jew. So Judaism is not a religion. It might be better to call it a loyalty system rather than a belief system. Loyalty to all their rituals, including the ritual hatred of non-Jews, imposed by childhood indoctrination and rarely escaped from. That’s all it is. (And I mean they rarely escape out of Judaism.)

    Given that Israel was founded by an atheist, how come it calls itself a Jewish State, rather than an Atheist State?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  378. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    In fact it was Russia who put an end to the growth and growth of the Muslim tide. Had it not been for the propping of the decaying Ottoman Empire by the West, the Russians would have been in Constantinople long ago.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  379. @Miggle

    Nobody has ever suggested Ashkenazim were other than a high fertility population, and probably with lower infant and juvenile mortality than their host populations in Eastern Europe. You only have to start with 5000 Jews multiplying at 2 per crnt per annum for 300 years or 1.5 per cent for 400 years and you have close to 2 million.

  380. @Colin Wright

    Meh? Show me one Jewish institution that isn’t devoted to the fragmentation and destruction of America? Even the so-called anti-Zionists support the “transforming” of America, and it’s not an act of love.

    My view of Jews is based on observing Jews. As teen, I started noticed that something wasn’t quite right about many Jewish comedians, intellectuals, journalists, activists….and a visit to Israel solidified my views. Most individual Jews that I have met conform to the stereotype.

    • Replies: @PorkTastic
  381. geokat62 says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Bear Stearns CEO Jimmy Cayne was Michael Ledeen’s long-term patron.

    Ah, yes, Michael Ledeen.

    Who could forget that unseemly character? Father of the “Ledeen Doctrine”:

    “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.”

  382. Covenant replacement theology – part one – entire must read post available at link below

    https://destinedtoberevealed.com/covenant-replacement-theology/

    Judeo-Christianity and replacement theology
    Although there are variances, the Judeo-Christian dual-covenant doctrine is not an actual replacement theology as such. It is more of a dualistic yet separate plan of redemption for both the Jewish people and the Christians. Many theologians teach that the New Testament church will be raptured before the commencement of the Great Tribulation. Apparently, at the end of this age, there is a period of seven years in which many Jews will come to know Christ as their Messiah.

    [MORE]

    Within Christian eschatology, it is almost exclusively taught that the Antichrist will confirm a covenant with the Jews for seven years. And in the middle of this week, he causes the sacrifices and offerings to cease. Then on a wing of the temple, he sets up the abomination of desolation.

    The prominent view is that God has promised to save all of Israel. As the story goes, He will bless those who bless Israel, and His everlasting promise to them is unconditional. Unfortunately, most so-called scholars simply do not understand the identity of the true Israel of God.

    Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    It is taught that we cannot exclude the Jewish people from their original and permanent covenant promises, as they represent the natural seed of Abraham.

    If the covenant promise was made to Abraham and his seed, who does this seed refer to?
    Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    Are the Jewish people synonymous with Spiritual Israel, or does this family consist of all who are in Christ?
    Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Yahshua the Messiah

    Is it not clearly defined that the righteousness of God is only possible through faith in Yahshua the Messiah without the works of the Law (Rom 3:22, 28, Rom 9:32).
    Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith

    The Judaizers would claim that we can never combine the Church with Israel, as the two are forever separated with unique identities and purposes.

    Romans 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect

    After the advent of Christ, who is the Messiah of the Old and New Testament Saints alike, is the creation of a division within His Church Scriptural?
    Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

    These are important questions that are easily answered when we allow the Word of God to speak to us (John 14:26).

    Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel

    The second gathering of Israel and the identity of the true Israel of God are introductory messages available at destined to be revealed. The advanced study guides relating to the second gathering of the true Israel of God can be found at the end of this message, or simply click here.

    According to Judeo-Christian theology, Israel has been temporarily set aside until after the rapture of the church. This religious sect is guilty of Scriptural replacement theology as incredible doctrinal distortions are presented in order to facilitate this, and many other many non-biblical teachings. End times Prophecy is revealed, is a study guide that exposes a few of the popular albeit destructive end-times teachings that are prevalent today.

    The new law of Christ and the Salvation He provides to all who have faithfully endured until the end is the hope of the Old and New Testament saints alike. Christ himself is responsible for the New covenant replacement theology that few are able to accept or even understand for that matter.

    Heb 10:9-10 …He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Yahshua the Messiah once for all.

    The frauds at the pulpit proclaim that we are still under the old law given unto Moses. This is evident when they instruct their followers to keep the Sabbath and tithe. These liars are all guilty of the crime of Scriptural replacement theology. Because of these false teachers in the church, many have turned away from the truth and now embrace fables (Rom 16:17, 2 Tim 4:3-4).

    Yahshua Himself took away the curse of the OId Law by establishing the New Covenant of Grace. He was the Old Testament promise and the Way the Truth and the means unto everlasting Life. All of the Old and New Testament saints alike (the Israel of God) could obtain Salvation through Him alone (Acts 13:39, Rom 4:14, 7:6, 8:2,  Heb 10:9-10).

    Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Messiah Yahshua hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    There is your replacement theology explained. One cannot hold onto something that has vanished with the risen Savior. It is impossible to mix the Old Law and the sacrifices that were a covering for sin, with that of the New Covenant of Yahshua who takes away sin.

    Righteousness has nothing to do with the futile attempt to keep the Old Testament Law. Yahshua’s death for mankind would mean absolutely nothing if the Old Law was still in play (Gal 2:21).

    It was prophesized that Abraham would be a father of many nations and that the blessing promised to him might come upon all nations through Yahshua the Messiah.

    Is this also a doctrine of replacement theology, that they all might receive the promise of the Spirit through the same faith in Yahshua (Gen 17:1-4, Gal 3:8-14).

  383. @Anonymouse

    The 3.8 billion really is a gift and a larger one than we give any Christian country. I agree that in part it is a subsidy to the defense industry, but that does not erase its status as a gift, since after marking down the value to reflect the subsidy there’s still a lot of value left.

    Israel imposes large costs on the US in that every other country in the region hates us for all the stuff we do to support Israel. Some of what we do is good, but a lot of it is morally questionable, including rigging elections, assassination, and mass starvation. This is supposed to teach the locals about our free and democratic way of life, which can the theirs if they let us run their affairs. Our policy is that no country shall be run by sincere Muslims, even though most of the people in the region are Muslims. So we prop up a wide variety of playboy sheiks, military dictators, and thugs in order to keep Islam down, all because corrupt Arabs are easier for us to control.

    If it were up to me, I would try to shift to a policy of neutrality and support for honest theocrats of peaceful disposition, of which there are many I suspect.

  384. @Colin Wright

    Your experience was very different from mine. I grew up in a mostly Jewish part of Queens NY in the 1960s and was very aware of Jewish community activities and predilections, e.g. the political and cultural leftism. I had quite a few Jewish friends, but I did notice that they all seemed to have communists or socialists in their family trees, whereas none of the gentiles did. I’m not saying that’s bad, but it did set them apart, and they had a very strong sense of community and solidarity, which again is not necessarily a bad thing. I just can’t imagine not knowing if your girlfriend is Jewish. While there are Jews who don’t come across as Jewish, they were a minority among the teenaged girls of my acquaintance.
    I’m sure the impression depends on the generation and the locale. Even within the local Jewish community in Queens there was a large difference between the more affluent Jews who lived to the west and the less affluent ones who lived in the housing projects. The latter seemed to have a stronger sense of identity and were more critical of the larger society.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  385. @OilcanFloyd

    I think there needs be able to differentiates between big jews and little jews. Now to be honest, almost all of them have an element of eccentricity about them (perhaps did to their upbringing and maybe due to perpetual feelings of victim hood even as the big jews have been top dogs for a while now)

    But it’s those jews at the top making all those decisions about invade the world invite the world and unlimited “diverse” immigration etc. As for the little jews, we need to evaluate them on a personal level and make a decision.

    However, we don’t have time for that now. The immigration disaster is heading in full speed for a while now

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  386. @Miggle

    Can someone on the UNZ Review do a story about Jews in Australia receiving interest free mortgages and loans from Jewish brokers?

    I am simply appalled.

    I found out from a friend who worked at a bank.

    Everything we’re told about Jewish excellence is an effing lie. Of course these parasites can obtain capital monopolies at every level of an economy. They simply play by completely different rules to the goyim.

    People should know that Jews are getting interest free loans. How incredible. You spend your life paying off the interest on your mortgage principal. The Jew is free of his own usury.

    I despise it. How can we be free of this.

  387. @jack daniels

    ‘Your experience was very different from mine. I grew up in a mostly Jewish part of Queens NY in the 1960s…’

    I’d say it’s an East Coast/West Coast thing (or perhaps a Northeast/rest of the country thing). The first frank anti-semite I met came from New Haven, Connecticut. Before that, I thought of anti-semitism as kind of like a belief in ghosts — a delusion that had afflicted people in the past or in exotic places, but that no longer existed in the pedestrian, modern world.

    I grew up in Northern California, and my family had been there since 1864. The Jews were a lot less Jewish, and indeed, ethnic identities in general were obscure. There were blacks and Chinese, of course — but failing that, you were white. There weren’t even Mexicans — not in Northern California.

    The Strausses across the street were Jewish — Caroline Strauss always made a big deal about Passover. But it was just a fact devoid of significance. Like what kind of car they drove, or whether their house had a basement.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  388. @Seraphim

    ‘In fact it was Russia who put an end to the growth and growth of the Muslim tide…’

    That’s pretty definitely not true. The last expansionist Muslim power was Ottoman Turkey, and the tide turned for them at some point between Lepanto (1570) and the last siege of Vienna (1683).

    Thereafter, they were definitely on the defensive. Russia didn’t seriously infringe on their territory until the last part of the eighteenth century. Peter the Great tried — but got a bloody nose for his pains.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Seraphim
  389. @Talha

    Not sure if you are channeling Nietzsche, but that was one of his major arguments, that race-mixing among European populations (as well as the mixing of former castes/classes) on the Christian grounds that all souls were equal under God led to the decadence and civilizational decline that he saw around him (and which he correctly predicted would get much worse with “democracy”) (although of course for him, democracy itself could only be acceptable to a decadent population). In other words, decadence for Nietzsche always had a physiological first cause; the psychological, behavioral, artistic and intellectual manifestations of decadence arose inevitably from physiological decline. Certainly his view is plausible, in the sense that hybrid matings create offspring “designed” for different and perhaps incompatible ecological roles. I think the idea is intuitively understood in the extreme cases, eg in the wretched, suicidal “Frankenstein”-style offspring between different species you’ll occasionally see in pop culture. If an organism (often unconsciously) perceiving itself as botched, on account of drives that fight each other and hence drive the organism to seek death, is the foundation of decadence, then that Icelandic study shouldn’t be surprising. Regarding Jews, they could very well be similar to the Icelanders with respect to the genetic distance between the average mating pair. Nietzsche had pointed out they have the most psychic strength of all nations in Europe owing to the attention they paid to breeding (in his view the most important thing, as must follow from his views on physiology). I hate to see what has happened to the Northern European nations who have contributed the most to higher civilization. As many powerful Jews and Jewish-led movements and businesses have catalyzed Northern European decadence, and often by the ugliest and most underhanded means, Jews certainly deserve to have the culture of critique they apply to “Whites” turned on them. (I commend Ron Unz for his integrity and bravery in allowing that here). However, I cannot rule out offhand the possibility (and Nietzsche would agree) that even without Jewish-driven catalysis, a similar civilizational decline would not have occurred anyway, ie that the ultimate destruction was “baked in the cake” well before any Jew could fairly be called into account (only, the unspooling of decadence to its ultimate endpoint would’ve taken much longer). In that sense, perhaps even the worst of the Jews are playing a helpful role in decomposing a dying civilization so something nobler can rise in its place. I’d like to believe that. However, Hitler exposed the Jewish role in catalyzing decadence (stressing a similar kind of emphasis on pure breeding that the Jews follow), and the transformation of Germany under his guidance within one decade suggests to me that perhaps it wasn’t too late even in 1940 to save Europe from its impending downfall. But such speculation is probably pointless because, who can really know. Also, I get the impression that whatever the case might’ve been 80 yrs ago, it’s probably too late to turn things around now.

    • Replies: @Talha
  390. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    In the game of empire you seldom get to make a critical mistake and recover. The Ottomans let Peter go after his forces surrendered and he was captured after having him sign certain terms.

    Had they kept him as a prisoner and demanded ransom or more, history may have taken a vastly different trajectory. You snooze, you lose.

    Peace.

  391. Talha says:
    @Just some nerd

    I didn’t know about that specific angle with regards to Nietzche. Thanks for the very informative feedback.

    Peace.

  392. @PorkTastic

    But it’s those jews at the top making all those decisions about invade the world invite the world and unlimited “diverse” immigration etc. As for the little jews, we need to evaluate them on a personal level and make a decision.

    Pork, I’ve never come across a so-called big Jew. Outside of my observations of comics, activists, media types, academics, financiers, etc. from afar, my personal observations have been of small Jews, and they generally conform to the worst stereotypes. None of them oppose the big Jews, or seem to care one whit about the destruction of America. Most have been typical lefty SJW types. And all of the little synagogues and Jewish community centers that I drive by display Israeli flags or signage supporting Israel. Little Jews generally support the big Jews, and vice-versa.

    I don’t understand people who make a big deal out of perfectly logical and healthy reactionary anti-semitism, and totally ignore the aggressive and toxic nature of Jewishness. The existence or nature of Israel are symptoms of the real problem.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  393. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    But the Russo-Ottoman confrontation did not start nor end with Peter the Great’s ‘bloody nose’, did it? Stalin got a ‘bloody nose’ from Hitler too.

  394. @Talha

    ‘…Had they kept him as a prisoner and demanded ransom or more, history may have taken a vastly different trajectory.’

    I’m inclined to doubt it. The Ottoman Empire was already suffering from systemic problems and an inability to reform while the European powers were definitely in the ascendant; they were going to get richer, more populous, more advanced, and more modern, while Turkey was not.

    This was going to happen whether the Ottomans let Peter go or not.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  395. @Talha

    Actually, if you want a hypothetical that could have significantly altered history, the Ottomans considered intervening on behalf of the Moriscos in Spain in the sixteenth century.

    Supposedly, Selim the Sot chose to invade Cyprus instead — on the grounds that it had excellent wine. Whatever the truth of that, a successful Ottoman invasion of Spain — accompanied by a mass uprising of her Muslim and recently-Muslim population — could certainly have sent history down a different path. If nothing else — as Napoleon’s invasion two hundred years later did — it might have ended Spain’s career as a great power.

    The effects on Catholic-Protestant enmity might also have been interesting. Would there have been a Thirty Years’ War if Christendom had been united by the goal of recovering Spain from the grip of the Turk? Here, it might be illuminating to look into the attitude of the Protestant powers when the Turks besieged Vienna in 1683. Were they moved to overlook the confessional divide and help, or did they see it as an opportunity to take advantage of a Catholic power’s weakness?

    I still don’t see the Ottoman Empire lasting much longer than it did — but the details could certainly have been different!

    • Replies: @Talha
  396. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Hmmm…indeed an interesting hypothetical scenario to ponder. I hadn’t given it much thought before.

    Peace.

  397. @AaronB

    “…It really gives the lie to the absurd idea that only race is an effective basis for unity – united polyglot empires like the Ottomans, and savage civil wars like those that wracked Europe, should really once and for all put to rest such silliness…”

    “United polyglot empires” have the curious inclination to fall apart in their constituent ethnic parts. That is why the Arabs, the Greeks, the Serbians and Bulgars fought their Turkic masters for ethnic independence. The same happened with the Austro-Hungarian Empire, with Yugoslavia and Czecho-Slovakia and the Soviet “Union”. How “united” do Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians feel in the US? How “united” are Israel’s Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi and Ethiopian Jews? Did the founding Ashkenazis not discriminate against Sephardi immigrants (remember the Ringworm scandal?) and what about racial discrimination of the Ethiopian Jews (remember the Depo-Provera scandal?).

    It is not “ideas” that unite but common ethnic identity and that includes race. Multi-ethnic and multi-racial states may stay “united” for a while due to internal or external pressures, but once those pressures are gone disintegration sets in. Ignoring race and ethnicity for a “higher unity” based on ideas is unrealistic.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  398. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    What about the constant civil wars of Europe? What about the same race European states constantly fighting each other?

    Race and ethnicity don’t seem very unifying.

  399. @AaronB

    There are several layers in identity : 1) Race, 2) Ethnicity, 3) Class. Identity on every level can be a source of conflict. “International Solidarity” based on class but ignoring ethnicity and race proved to be an illusion to the Marxists. People of the same race but of different ethnic identity can also have conflics. The fact that multiple identities are a source of conflicts does not suggest that the “solution” is ignoring identity for artificial ideological constructs. The solution is more not less homogeneous societies.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  400. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    But homogeneous societies also proved to be an illusio, as we see from all the civil wars throughout history.

    What is clear is that race, on its own, is not enough of a unifying factor. History is clear on that lesson. Close racial kin constantly fight each other.

    Even immediate families, brothers and sisters, fight each other. Its proverbial.

    Conflict is unavoidable, internally and externally. There is no “solution” to this problem. It can only be managed.

    Occasionally, a society will come together on the basis of shared culture, religion, ethnicity, interests, and it will work for a shorter or longer time – until it stops working.

    Jews are seen here as united ethnocentrists, but there has always been tremendous internal conflict among Jews even in ancient times. Jews couldn’t even remain a single tiny kingdom but split up into the kingdoms of Judah and Israel in ancient times when they were the same ethnicity and religion and culture, and the factions at the time of Jesus and before that, the Roman Revolt, were many and hated each other fiercely. Read Josephus. There were alsways – as today – Hellenistic Jews and Traditional Jews who hated each other.

    In Jewish tradition, we lost Jerusalem – the last exile – because Jews hated each other for no reason – i.e, divided into pointless factions and fought each other.

    Today, Jews are more united than whites or Muslims or most other groups, so they do better. But today, the ethnic basis for Judaism, especially in Israel, is weakest, and the ideological basis, strongest. Today’s Israel is more united than the ancient kingdoms of Judah and Israel, who were the exact same race and ethnicity and culture and religion.

  401. @Colin Wright

    I suspect that’s true for Jews in the American south as well. The ADL stereotype of southerners as letting no day pass without lynching at least one black and one Jew is likely a response to the southern anger at Leo Frank’s defense team blaming his conviction on anti-Semitism, and later the obvious presence of radical Jews in the civil rights movement and communist politics generally. In general, southerners, despite their tendency to Christian fundamentalism, did not see Jews as alien or objectionable. In fact, I suspect most Americans do not have any particular stereotype of Jews unless it’s something they picked up on TV.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  402. @OilcanFloyd

    I don’t see how anyone can be a conservative or reactionary (unless limited to Austrian economics) without noticing and being irritated by the strong leftward tendency of Jewish politics and its incredible effectiveness, which in turn seems largely a result of the “Rainbow Coalition” strategy that Jewish groups pioneered. However, one can hardly begrudge Jews their support for Israel. Perhaps they should be a little less dogmatic about it, but I could say the same thing about Irish Americans who support the IRA, or did back in the day when that conflict was raging. It’s up to gentiles to set reasonable limits to American support for Israel, though they don’t seem good at doing that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  403. Seraphim says:
    @AaronB

    But what about the ‘success’ of very the model of racial unity, ‘Aryan’ Germany? In fact the model of unity was the ‘Reich’.

  404. Miggle says:
    @AaronB

    That doesn’t explain the Jewish revenge on Germany for doing God’s will.

  405. @jack daniels

    ‘In general, southerners, despite their tendency to Christian fundamentalism, did not see Jews as alien or objectionable…’

    Except when they get going on the theology, they don’t even seem to recognize them.

    One of my internet interlocutors is from North Carolina. He’s not terribly well-educated, but extremely sharp.

    He seriously did not realize Bernie Sanders was Jewish.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  406. @AaronB

    ‘Today, Jews are more united than whites or Muslims or most other groups, so they do better. But today, the ethnic basis for Judaism, especially in Israel, is weakest, and the ideological basis, strongest. Today’s Israel is more united than the ancient kingdoms of Judah and Israel, who were the exact same race and ethnicity and culture and religion.’

    That’s so at odds with reality it’s farcical.

    Forty percent of the Jews in Israel say they would leave if they could.

    Most belong to some party that represents their particular ethnic tribe; you’ve got your party for Russian secularists, your party for the Mizrahi, your party for the Ashkenazi Ultra-Orthodox, your party for…

    They hate each other so much they won’t even send their children to the same schools. The contempt felt for the Ultra-Orthodox in such organs as Haaretz is almost palpable.

    In point of fact, that’s part of the reason why Israel is so compulsively hostile to her neighbors — or failing her neighbors, anyone within a thousand miles. She needs an enemy at the gates. Any prolonged interval of peace, and the various flavors of Jew in Israel start to turn on each other. She has literally provoked clashes with the Palestinians to head off internal strife. I recall watching this very clearly happen about ten years ago. Remember those demonstrations about housing or something? What happened next?

    Jews in Israel are united solely by their hate and fear of everyone around them — and they take good care to perpetuate that hate and fear.

    And you hold them up as a paragon of unity…I cannot imagine a more grotesque falsehood.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Miggle
  407. @jack daniels

    ‘…However, one can hardly begrudge Jews their support for Israel…’

    Oh I dunno about that. We expected German-Americans to refrain from supporting Nazi Germany, and in fact, the overwhelming majority did refrain — and that was long before Nazi Germany had committed anything like the crimes Israel has committed.

    So yeah, I think we can begrudge Jews their support of Israel. Just because a child molester is your cousin doesn’t mean it’s cool if you support and enable his behavior.

    In fact, I cannot think of any ethnic group that has so enthusiastically supported its ethnic kinsmen when they have been engaged in behavior that is so egregiously evil. The Irish example pales both in the level of support offered, and in the vileness of the cause in question. It’s reasonable for Irishmen to resent continued British rule of Ireland. That’s definitely not the last word on the subject, but it’s a reasonable cause.

    That’s as opposed to Zionism, which is viciousness and deceit right down to the core. There’s nothing defensible about it, and it’s inexcusable for anyone to support it. Jews who do need to face up to what they are doing and walk away from it. That may be harder for them than it would be for me — but they need to do it. There’s no other moral course to take.

  408. @Colin Wright

    ‘…Had they kept him as a prisoner and demanded ransom or more, history may have taken a vastly different trajectory.’

    I’m inclined to doubt it. The Ottoman Empire was already suffering from systemic problems and an inability to reform while the European powers were definitely in the ascendant; they were going to get richer, more populous, more advanced, and more modern, while Turkey was not.

    This was going to happen whether the Ottomans let Peter go or not’

    Thinking about this further, I’d say the effects of the Ottomans killing Peter or taking him prisoner could have had a dramatic effect — but on Russia’s future, not Turkey’s.

    Note that Peter was in fact defeated, and as far as I know, didn’t bother the Ottomans again for the rest of his reign. So for the Ottomans, there was little change in the immediate future.

    However, for Russia, it’s possible Peter’s violent course of Westernization might have been halted or even reversed. Curiously, Russia could have wound up entering the Nineteenth Century like the Ottomans — an antique state, with few of the institutions of the post-Enlightenment West. She might even have suffered a similar fate, finding herself increasingly helpless to prevent more modern, more aggressive powers from progressively enfeebling and dismembering her.

    Be that as it may. However, for the Ottomans, the future wouldn’t have been drastically different. They still would have found themselves helpless to modernize fast enough in the face of the Western technological, military, commercial, nationalistic, political challenge. It would have been more a matter of Austria and Britain potentially not having to share the pie with Russia than of Turkey actually avoiding her fate.

    So Peter being taken off the stage could have dramatic consequences for Russia. For Turkey, I don’t think it drastically alters the future. She’s still what’s for dinner. It won’t help much if there’s one less diner.

    • Replies: @Talha
  409. @AaronB

    “…Today, Jews are more united than whites or Muslims or most other groups, so they do better. But today, the ethnic basis for Judaism, especially in Israel, is weakest, and the ideological basis, strongest…”

    See this video about Israel’s divided society :

    especially its conclusion at 40:34.

    Quote : “Today we’re facing an identity crisis. We live in a country of tribes. Israeli society is a fractured community. It’s actually composed of a lot of ethnic groups and sects with conflicting interests.”

    • Replies: @AaronB
  410. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    This is true. Israelis are an incredibly fractious and disputatious bunch, assertive and arrogant and self seeking. They are also a people of incredible warmth, kindness, and self sacrifice. and the sense of brotherhood and mutual aid and sympathy in Israel is palpable. Its one of the things I love about the culture. It’s something I miss every time I leave for the United States, where everyone is alienated.

    It is two sides of the same coin, and its because Israelis are still connected to the emotions, unlike the anodyne West.

    The founder of WeWork created his company because he wanted Americans to experience the same camaraderie and sense of common purpose he had in Israel.

    I grew up in Israel, and am moving back for good this next year because I miss that.

    Anyways, you should take it up with the other anti-Semites on this site, who are all convinced Jews and Israelis have a much stronger sense of common purpose than the West.

    You anti-Semites have to really agree on a common line of attack.

  411. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Jews in Israel are united solely by their hate and fear of everyone around them

    This really was the fault of the Arab nationalists that played right into their hands. If you read some quotes of the early Zionist, you realize how frustrated they were with Jews in places like Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, etc. because they were like; “Yeah, no thanks, we’re good.” These groups that been settled in those places for centuries upon centuries really weren’t that hot on the idea of relocating their lives due to some prodding by some godless (that was another frustration the Zionists had, these guys were too religious) European Jews.

    Had the Arab nationalists not miscalculated on a massive scale, every time Israel would have piped up about it being the only homeland for Jews in the Middle East, it would have been met with collective laughter by millions of Jews in the Muslim world. This move also bolstered Israeli manpower by almost a factor of two in a relatively short time.

    Oh well – again, you snooze, you lose.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @barr
  412. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    but on Russia’s future, not Turkey’s.

    And what I meant by my initial point was that a weaker Russia would not have been a major threat on its Eastern front later on. As you mentioned, the Empire was weakening already, no doubt about this, but it would have helped not to have two major fronts to defend.

    it’s possible Peter’s violent course of Westernization might have been halted or even reversed

    Yeah, beards may have remained popular in Russia as well:
    “As the Grand Embassy proved, Peter I was a do-it-yourself kind of ruler. He proceeded to personally shave the beards from his horrified guests.
    He declared that all the men in Russia had to lose their beards—a massively unpopular policy with many including the Russian Orthodox church, which said going around sans facial hair was blasphemous.
    ‘Eventually, the ruler’s stance softened,’ Mancini writes. Figuring he could make money for the state while still allowing people to opt to keep their beards, he imposed a beard tax.”
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-tsar-peter-great-established-beard-tax-180964693/

    Reminds me a bit of Ataturk actually, but a little less extreme.

    I don’t think it drastically alters the future.

    I agree here.

    She’s still what’s for dinner. It won’t help much if there’s one less diner.

    With Russia out of the picture, the Ottomans (or I guess Turkey) would likely have some more holdings in the Balkans. I would say the Caucasus and along the Caspain Sea also, but it was really the Persians that took that (back) from them – so that’s a wash.

    One interesting development though – having had a marginal foot print in Europe did help keep Turkey sit out the most of WW2 which may have been disastrous as it was for every nation it touched.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  413. @Talha

    ‘…One interesting development though – having had a marginal foot print in Europe did help keep Turkey sit out the most of WW2 which may have been disastrous as it was for every nation it touched.’

    Yeah. There’s actually what I recall as being a fairly good book on that: The Elusive Neutral.

    I forget the name of the author, but the title says it all. The Germans and the Allies all manfully try to force Turkey to join their side — but she frustrates them all, while making everyone pay for the privilege of courting her. England buys millions of pounds worth of Turkish tobacco — Englishmen don’t smoke Turkish tobacco. Germany swaps new tanks (none of your used trash this time, Fritz) for…hazelnuts. Masses and masses of hazelnuts…

    Lend-lease officials discover literal trainloads of new anti-aircraft guns (‘we can’t fight if the Germans might bomb Istanbul’) rusting on sidings — the Turks are actually a little hazy on how to use them.

    It was quite a comedy. And at the end, Turkey ‘joined the fight’ — in like, February 1945. Which worked out. When Stalin decided to have Turkey for dessert after the war, Britain and America went to bat for her — which they might not have done if she’d been a dastardly neutral all through the war.

    Supposedly (I think it turned out to not actually be true) there are eighty brand new FW-190 A-8 fighter aircraft carefully wrapped and buried somewhere in Turkey. The story is the Turks got them — then had to demonstrate they really loved the Allies the bestest, so they had to hide the German aircraft somehow.

    Good stuff.

    • Replies: @Talha
  414. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    You summarized it well. Basically Turkey got everyone to pay for her to remain neutral. Absolutely amazing strategy. Given her performance in certain theaters of WW1 (near her heartlands) and then subsequent wars against occupation forces in the 1920’s, I’m sure no one was eager to have them jump in on the opposing side. Turkey was not first class in the era, but she was never a pushover either.

    And at the end, Turkey ‘joined the fight’ — in like, February 1945.

    Yeah, when it was pretty obvious who was going to win and create the new world order along their prerogative. Again, absolutely brilliant move given what you outlined.

    The story is the Turks got them — then had to demonstrate they really loved the Allies the bestest, so they had to hide the German aircraft somehow.

    LOOOOL!!! If this is true , some archaeological team will find them like 500 years later and it’ll be a thing in the papers for a while! Turks will laugh about it over some real strong coffee and kebabs…definitely kebabs…

    Peace.

  415. @AaronB

    Everyone acknowledges that.

    But Jews rob the West of the same.

    You still haven’t explained why it’s kosher for Israel to literally subjugate the American nation to it’s economy through anti-BDS laws that destroy the first amendment, for example.

    Where a presumption of anti-semitism will be smeared against anyone who competes with Jewish commerce – because not trading with a Jew and not buying the shitting mal-ware infested Israeli camcorder and buying the Japanese one instead will mean you’re an anti-semite. I mean it’s a farce. The fact any Israeli or Jew can possibly support this egregious disgusting set of laws proves that Jews simply have no place in the West.

    Aaron no one actually has any problem with individual Jews. Just the weird refusal to ever concede ever anywhere that things like forcing anti-BDS on others are wrong in any way.

    I’m not an anti-semite. I just oppose things like anti-BDS because they’re so flagrantly and obviously wrong, and Jews insist the opposite.

  416. @AaronB

    Here is how strong the Jewish common purpose. Jewish mortgage providers and money lenders in Australia provide other Jews and exclusively Jews interest free mortgages and interest free loans.

    Google it. You can find it.

    It’s absolutely incredible.

    That’s disgusting. You say ‘everyone is alienated’ as if it has nothing to do with Jews. Well that’s one reason effing Australian’s might be feeling alienated. They can’t afford houses because of Jewish national debts owned to Jewish private banking cartels. They also can’t get access to capital. And the capital they get access to they have to pay interest on.

    So Jews in Australia can afford houses very young – because the *unts don’t have to pay interest on their loans. So they also escape debt and can buy even more capital.

    It’s disgusting. Everyone involved in that should be imprisoned. It’s good you’re going back to Israel. That’s where all Jews belong – where they can provide themselves interest free loans at their leisure.

    Racially modulated interest free loans.

    Unz has showed that even in 1944 something like over half of all German capital was still owed by Jews.

    Well this is how.

    I bet you think you’re really hard working and intelligent. No, you’re a userer, and you benefit by your people’s blatant theft and supremacism and corruption. Those interest free loans, you absolute Cun* are what create those ‘vibrant Jewish communities’ in the nicest parts of Australia. And these absolute parasites then have the temerity to tell Australians they need to just pull themselves by their boot straps. If any white mortgage lender were to try the same thing, it would be Jews suing them immediately for racial vilification, hate-speech, racial exclusion and white supremacism.

    Interest free mortgages Aaron. Go to hell. It’s ‘The Enlightenment’ it’s ‘Romanticism’ it’s ‘Evolution’.

    No, you moron, it’s Jews gaming the system and providing themselves interest free loans – even as the Chinese just give themselves state printed monies to launder into western property.

    Unbelievable.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  417. AaronB says:
    @Flint Clint

    Well, Israelis don’t wish to deny you your sense of nationhood. Nor do religious Jews – Judaism believes in the legitimacy of the “70 nations”.

    I am on record here as supporting healthy, balanced European nationalism.

    Your complaint is with two types of Jews – Enlightenment Jews, and some Jews who twist American standards and norms to their benefit.

    I disagree with the second group of Jews – I don’t wish to see BDS outlawed. However, I also consider it perfectly natural. If you belonged to a small white European country, Ireland, say, and there was a movement that literally sought to destroy your country, I don’t know if you could resist the temptation to have it outlawed, provided you had the power, merely for the sake of free speech principles.

    Nevertheless, I think its poor strategy.

  418. anarchyst says:
    @AaronB

    For one, most jews ARE NOT “semites” but are converted mongrels from eastern Europe.

    It is interesting to note that the “solidarity, social and cultural insularity” that jews prize so much for themselves is actively fought against when gentile whites attempt to achieve the same social and cultural solidarity and commonality of purpose.

    It is also laughable for non-semitic jews to call those who do not agree with them “anti-semites”, even Arabs and other middle eastern people who ARE semites.

  419. @AaronB

    ‘They are also a people of incredible warmth, kindness, and self sacrifice. and the sense of brotherhood and mutual aid and sympathy in Israel is palpable…’

    Yeah. That really comes across. Like the Border Policewoman who shot somebody because she was bored. And the affection and mutual respect between the secular Jews and the Haredim, the Ashkenazi and the Mizrahi. Feel the love. It’s almost palpable.

  420. @AaronB

    ‘I am on record here as supporting healthy, balanced European nationalism…’

    Actually, you’re on record here as favoring diversity and pluralism — except for Israel, of course.

  421. @AaronB

    ‘…The founder of WeWork created his company because he wanted Americans to experience the same camaraderie and sense of common purpose he had in Israel…’

    Riiight. And I started my moving business because I wanted to help people realize their dream of moving to Seattle.

    We’re all just great big philanthropists.

  422. @AaronB

    ‘…If you belonged to a small white European country, Ireland, say, and there was a movement that literally sought to destroy your country, I don’t know if you could resist the temptation to have it outlawed…”

    We should all just love Israel the bestest, and if we wish to decline to support her, well, that should be illegal.

    A lot of people won’t buy Chinese products. No one suggests that they should be barred from advocating that. I remember back in the day, everyone boycotted South Africa — of course.

    But Israel? Oh no. If you won’t support her, that’s anti-semitism.

  423. @AaronB

    ‘…You anti-Semites have to really agree on a common line of attack.’

    Be careful what you wish for.

  424. @AaronB

    ‘…Today’s Israel is more united than the ancient kingdoms of Judah and Israel, who were the exact same race and ethnicity and culture and religion.’

    Don’t be silly. Judah was a historical state that existed for about a hundred years — about which we know virtually nothing. ‘The Kingdom of ancient Israel’ has all the historical reality of Camelot.

  425. @AaronB

    ‘…Your complaint is with two types of Jews – Enlightenment Jews…’

    This gets really tedious.

    So you want to be a pre-enlightenment Jew: living in poverty in your shetl, kept in ignorance and ground into submission by your rabbis, not even allowed to read your sacred books, believing in the most absurd superstitions…

    ‘But we wuz ‘appy.’ Maybe in a future life, you’ll go back. Get to die at the age of thirty six of a combination of tuberculosis and malnutrition. It was because you didn’t wear your amulet to ward off the evil eye.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  426. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why do you say not allowed to read the sacred books?

    Every Jew is absolutely commanded to study the Torah, Talmud, etc.

    I think it was early Christianity which reserved the reading of scripture to Islam.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Colin Wright
  427. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    To priests, not Islam lol.

  428. @AaronB

    ‘Healthy balanced European nationalism’.

    In other words, where all European nationalist movements are Zionist, and governed by the Jewish finance/media/military-intelligence complex. Well that’s an interesting preference.

    You’re wrong about BDS.

    Practically everyone who isn’t to the left of Mao in the United States knows BDS is just a bunch of trannies and muslim lickers having a get-together. These boycotts are nothing.

    None of the senior democrats support BDS. But by seeking to abolish the first amendment even as Jewish groups libel second amendment proponents as ‘hate groups’ it is simply declarative of Jews as enemies of the American nation and the United States.

    You guys have to understand this. Sure, no doubt it really does suit Israel to hold in economic bondage all US citizens so they are prohibited from competing with Israeli interests. But that is an infraction on American freedoms that is of terminal impact.

    Everyone gets that Jews are not a monolith. But by the anti-BDS movement Israel has now proven it is no different to men like Soros. He wants to destroy the constitution as well. If the first amendment is simply nothing, so presumably are all the amendments. Anyone US citizen who supports anti-BDS is committing sedition.

    And why should anyone of us feel sympathy when Jews have allowed all conservatives, actually ALL OF THEM who are declared, to be removed from the Academy?

    The West is large enough and full of enough people who willingly elect to trade with Israelis that anti BDS is frivolous and unnecessary. All it does is antagonise and dismay and signal contempt for whatever semblance remains of western norms.

    You speak so casually of it’s convenience to Israel. Imagine if we passed laws saying no Jews were allowed to compete with say, Polish commerce lol? It literally is that ludicrous. Lets pass laws saying Jews aren’t permitted to compete with gentiles.

    Ireland when it was being systematically defenestrated by Anglo-Jews within the Crown like Disraeli, and more recently Lord Levy and soooo many others, probably would have liked to force people to buy it’s products – but not anyone it expected to be an ally, one can be sure.

    Americans are already slaves to Jewish private debt, now we are apparently to be slaves to Israeli consumer preferences.

    And it’s so abominably hypocritical, given Jewish penchant to use economic sanction against anyone or anything they dislike.

    Why not pass a law making it illegal to boycott white people? Yes, lets do that. While we’re at it, why not pass a law providing a debt jubilee on all debts owed to Jews?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @jack daniels
  429. AaronB says:
    @Flint Clint

    Well, I agree. Outlawing BDS is overreach. It’s taking advantage of the modern climate of anti racism.

    Jews aren’t omniscient, and make strategic mistakes.

    Why not pass a law making it illegal to boycott white people?

    I would support such a law 🙂

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Flint Clint
  430. @AaronB

    ‘…Every Jew is absolutely commanded to study the Torah, Talmud, etc.’….’

    There’s a definite irony here. Here I am lecturing you about the glories of that traditional Judaism you profess to be so immersed in.

    If the Ashkenazi were commanded to study the Torah, etc, they certainly didn’t obey. This from Mosaic:

    [MORE]

    ‘…Interestingly, the most relevant statistical study in our possession shows some surprising results. This is the Russian census of 1897, the only one ever undertaken in Tsarist times. On the subject of basic literacy, those polled were divided into age cohorts and asked whether they could read and write Russian, and if not, whether they could read and write any other language.

    Of Jewish males in the ten- to nineteen-year-old group, 42 percent answered yes for Russian and another 18 percent answered yes for “another language.” (For the parallel female cohort, the figures were 32 percent and 12 percent.) For those aged twenty-to-twenty-nine, the figures were 53 percent and 18 percent (females, 30 percent and 16 percent). For those thirty to thirty-nine, 48 percent and 21 percent (females, 18 percent and 16 percent); for those forty to forty-nine, 41 percent and 27 percent (females, 10 percent and 16 percent); for those fifty to fifty-nine, 31 percent and 30 percent (females, 6 percent and 4 percent); and for those over sixty, 22 percent and 32 percent (females, 4 percent and 11 percent).

    These figures have been analyzed by the American Jewish sociologist Joel Perlmann, who makes the following observations about them.

    (1) Since 97 percent of all Jews in the census reported Yiddish as their mother tongue, Yiddish must have been the “other language” that they claimed literacy in.

    (2) Whereas many Jews literate in Yiddish were not literate in Russian, the reverse was extremely rare, since any Jew who learned to read and write Russian was almost certain to have learned to read and write Yiddish first. Thus, the total percentage of Jews literate in Yiddish would have been the joint sum of the “yes” answers for Russian and “another language.” For the male cohort aged ten to nineteen, this was 60 percent (and 44 percent for females), rising to 71 percent (46 percent for females) in the age bracket of twenty to twenty-nine and gradually decreasing from there to a low of 54 percent (15 percent for females) in the sixty-plus bracket.

    (3) The reason that the highest literacy rate, for men and women alike, was found in the group aged twenty to twenty-nine was that this cohort was the most affected by the modernization increasingly changing Jewish life in the late-19th century. (The group aged ten to nineteen had a lower rate because it included youngsters not yet literate who would become so as they grew older.) By the same token, the lowest literacy rate was in the sixty-plus group, whose members were born no later than 1837, when Jewish society in Eastern Europe was still highly traditional and hardly affected by modernization at all.

    (4) Although the census figures for “another language” do not distinguish between Yiddish and Hebrew, they do give us a theoretical ceiling for Hebrew, since almost no one literate in Hebrew would not also have been literate in Yiddish, which uses the Hebrew alphabet. In practice, of course, literacy in Hebrew would have been far lower than in Yiddish…’

    • Replies: @AaronB
  431. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ok, but you said I would be forbidden from studying sacred scripture.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  432. @AaronB

    ‘Ok, but you said I would be forbidden from studying sacred scripture.’

    True. I do recall reading that somewhere — the Torah scrolls pretty much became ritual objects, not to be profaned by the touch of ordinary hands.

    What I gave you is what I found with a one-minute search; you can delve into it further if you wish. For now, we can take it as established that your pre-enlightenment Jewry was not a community of scholars, experiencing the spiritual wonders of their religion. They were about as literate in the language of their faith as medieval peasants.

    I want to expand on this elsewhere, but there’s a decided irony here. You locate the Jewishness you would take pride in two places: a ‘pre-enlightenment Judaism’ and Israel. These two share strikingly little, but neither one is much to take pride in; I wouldn’t want to return to ‘pre-enlightenment Judaism’ any more than I would seek to go back to life in the early medieval manor.

    As to Israel — well, you know what I have to say about that. It’s a vicious little garrison state, capable of reacting with the rest of the world only with cynical exploitation or frank hostility. If it was an individual, it’d be classified as criminally insane.

    Now here’s the kicker: there is a Judaism to take pride in; the Jewish community that joined post-enlightenment Western Europe and North America and contributed to it out of all proportion to its numbers: the figures, say, for German Jewish Nobel Prize winners are absurd. Even today, the best of Jews belong to this community — and uneasily edge away both from the dilapidated ruin that is traditional Judaism and the moral monstrosity that is modern Israel.

    It is with these that a Jewish community one could feel good about belonging to exists. Yet this is precisely the Judaism that you reject.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  433. @Colin Wright

    I converse frequently with a pretty sharp Virginia man who probably would not be able to tell you whether ANY of the following are Jewish:

    Bernie Sanders
    Jerry Seinfeld
    Adam Schiff
    Sarah Silverman
    Wolf Blitzer

    He believes in God but I doubt he would know Jewish from Quaker or Lebanese.

  434. @Flint Clint

    I am grateful for the Anti-BDS movement because it shows what lengths American politicians — even Harvard Law graduates like Ted Cruz — will go to in service to the Israeli and Jewish lobbies. This legislation is beyond indefensible and must surely be embarrassing or would be if properly spotlighted. I’m sure some Jews disapprove of the legislation but they need to be more vocal since the gentiles are unable to risk being labeled anti-semites. So this situation is really a microcosm of where we’re at as a society.
    Of course, America is already nearly the only “democracy” in the western world not to jail citizens who “deny the Holocaust.” Don’t Jews sense the danger to their cause from backing this sort of stuff? Whose doing is “anti-racism” anyway?

  435. @Colin Wright

    But if Jews were not really a community distinguished by superior literacy and intellectual culture, how do you explain all those Nobel Prize winners. Hard to believe there is no genetic factor, and such a genetic factor would be explained by the mating practices of a culture that valued literacy and intellectual competence above broad shoulders or dainty cheekbones, and so on. Or perhaps Jewish IQ was sufficiently spurred by the intense involvement of Jews in commerce, which requires mathematical literacy if not the verbal kind.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  436. @jack daniels

    ‘But if Jews were not really a community distinguished by superior literacy and intellectual culture, how do you explain all those Nobel Prize winners. Hard to believe there is no genetic factor…’

    Well, this raises several points.

    First off, on the one hand, I’d agree there is a genetic factor, but on the other hand, the Jewish community isn’t a monolith. That German Ashkenazim have compiled a staggering intellectual track record implies absolutely nothing about Yemeni Jews. Even among more closely related groups; how many Nobel Prize winners came out of Galician shetls? Yes, those communities were largely illiterate, and no, they didn’t produce many prize-winners. The prize-winners came from assimiliated, relatively affluent families of German Jews — Germans of the Mosaic faith, as they would have had it up until the advent of Hitler.

    Jewish genius seems to have flourished in specific circumstances — among those Jews who made their lives as a minority among at least grudgingly accepting gentiles. Spinoza, perhaps the first Jew to make his name in the larger world rather than within the Jewish community, was a renegade Sephardi in Holland; he was actually expelled from the Jewish community for his ‘sins.’. Later, the great efflorescence of Jewish genius occurred first in Wilhelmine Germany and then in the United States; in communities where Jewish talent was accepted and at least reluctantly applauded.

    Jewish achievement may have a genetic component; but it also appears to have a cultural element. Specifically, it appears to require a wider gentile audience to elicit the display. In this connection, the lack of Nobel Prize winners among the Jews of Israel has been spectacular. Yes, they do better than the average gentile nation; but I also once calculated that they perform at one fiftieth of the level that German Jews in Germany did.

    Really, I don’t think one can generalize about Jews any more than one can generalize about Christians. Just because x,y, and z is true of Swedish gentiles doesn’t tell you anything about Filipino gentiles, and similarly, pyrotechnic displays of genius from German Jews implies little about Ukrainian Jews — and nothing at all about Iraqi Jews. Indeed, usually when people generalize about ‘Jews,’ it turns out they’re referring to Ashkenazi only, and usually to some specific group within the Ashkenazi. Fiddler on the Roof — inaccurate as it may be — isn’t about Moroccan Jews. It’s not even about German Jews. Ditto for the various anti-semitic rantings about ‘Jews’ and indeed, the various expressions of admiration for ‘Jewish’ genius. It almost always transpires the speaker isn’t referring to Jews in general at all, but to some specific subset of Jews.

    There are various ethnic communities among Jews — and some of those communities may very well have higher group IQ’s. However, you can no more say something about Jews in general than you can say something about Christians in general. For the whole, Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity — not in a cultural sense and certainly not in a genetic sense.

  437. @AaronB

    ‘Well, I agree. Outlawing BDS is overreach. It’s taking advantage of the modern climate of anti racism.

    Jews aren’t omniscient, and make strategic mistakes.

    Why not pass a law making it illegal to boycott white people?

    I would support such a law’

    That wouldn’t do much for Israel, though, would it?

    In fact, according to you, it wouldn’t do anything for Jews anywhere. They not being white people and all.

  438. @Colin Wright

    One of the ‘race realists’ was saying Jews as a group are closely related genetically. I believe this comment was not limited to Ashkenazim.

    Unlike Christians, Jews consider anyone with a Jewish mother to be a Jew albeit sometimes a wayward Jew. Pew Research confirms that most American self-identified Jews see no contradiction in the notion of an atheist Jew, whereas “atheist Christian” is a more problematic concept. I would expect more genetic similarities among Jews than gentiles.

    My thought was that the cultural situation of European / Ashkenazi Jews was driving the empirically verified superiority in IQ by causing Jews to highly value intelligence in a mate, so when you raised problems for my cultural stereotype of Jews, you threatened my explanation for superior Jewish IQ. But it could be that even in the more backward shtetls of Lithuania Jewish communities retain a high valuation of mathematical skill since it is needed in commerce. Being excluded from many forms of privilege within the theocratic societies may have forced Jews to focus sharply on alternative methods of advancement.

    Of course, the cultural milieu of German Jews is going to be more advantageous to scientific pursuits than that of Jews in a less rich environment. Germany, unlike eastern Europe, had a rich scientific culture even without the Jewish contribution.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  439. @jack daniels

    ‘One of the ‘race realists’ was saying Jews as a group are closely related genetically. I believe this comment was not limited to Ashkenazim…’

    I largely agree with the rest of your post — but the above I’ll comment on.

    There are a series of problems with genetic test results. First off, they’re ‘scientific’ and peoiple tend to read ‘science’ as ‘absolute and certain truth.’ That’s not what it is, and no one ever said it was.

    Genetics is a science that is in its infancy — and it has produced some damned strange results. For example, genetics ‘tells’ us that Tibetans didn’t move onto the Tibetan plateau until five hundred years after the archeological record tells us they did.

    So who ya gonna believe? The genetic study, or the carbon dating of the carving?

    Second, when it comes to studies of Jewish genes, the whole field’s been hijacked by Zionist propagandists. They churn out not only distorted popularizations of what results have been obtained, but even conduct suspicious ‘studies.’ I’ve even read some mutterings by gentile researchers along the lines of ‘I won’t say anything about that.’ I won’t say the apostles of one Jewish people are completely wrong — but I will say their statements shouldn’t be taken as demonstrated fact.

    It’s my belief that to whatever degree Jews may be related to each other, they are far more closely related to the gentile population they lived among. Netanyahu is a Polish Jew — and he looks remarkably like some recent Polish gentile politicians whose photos I recall. That Yemeni Jew who was videotaped murdering a wounded Palestinian looks remarkably like…other Yemenis.

    The most spectacular example of this I uncovered came when Yishai, the Tunisian Jew who was Minister of the Interior, announced that ‘Israel was for the white man’ — by which he meant not for Arabs, but for Jews such as he.

    He didn’t look awfully white himself, so I went and did an image search of gentile Tunisians — and bingo — I found somebody who could have been Yishai’s long-lost twin brother.

    Everyone screws the maid. The faithful employee gets invited to Passover dinner. In primitive peasant villages, where the Polish Catholic landlord has chased off the Orthodox priest, one can imagine the locals coming into synagogue — first as grudgingly admitted observers, then as congregants, finally — in a couple of generations — as more Jews.

    Jews aren’t — and you can just look and see this — a community defined primarily by genes.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
    , @Talha
  440. @Colin Wright

    You are the smartest on this board. But you are making the wrong choice.

    Yes Jews in Israel come in all colors. And all of them look the same as their host nations, among which they lived. Yemenites look like Yemenites and Moroccans as Moroccans. Europeans as Europeans. Ethiopians as Ethiopians. And they are different in character too.

    This is a religion. Same as Islam.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Colin Wright
  441. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    So who ya gonna believe? The genetic study, or the carbon dating of the carving?

    Yeah, this is the problem – you’re always discovering more evidence so with these things you can’t be certain – you can only really set a level of confidence that one theory is right over another and won’t be overturned by, say, some random goatherd coming across a pile of bones in a shallow mud pit or cave that throws both theories out.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  442. Talha says:
    @The Dark Night

    This is a religion. Same as Islam.

    Interestingly, Islam has always viewed Jews as an ummah of its own. Perhaps an obsolete (and even a rival) one, but one nevertheless. And maybe that’s because we basically see everything in sort of religious lens since that is the primary identifier/classifier for human beings as far as we are concerned.

    There are many, many Muslims in the Middle East that have trace Jewish genetics/ancestry from the past. Having 10% is fairly common, up to 25% is less so.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  443. @The Dark Night

    ‘…But you are making the wrong choice.

    Yes Jews in Israel come in all colors. And all of them look the same as their host nations, among which they lived…

    This is a religion. Same as Islam.’

    But I agree with you. Unless you’re being singularly perverse, I fail to see how you could first claim I am ‘making the wrong choice’…and then echo what I’ve said.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  444. @Talha

    Plenty of Jews speak Arabic.

    A Jew can pray in a mosque. Jews recognize Islam. Rambam, a great Sephardic rabbi, said that it is better to enter a mosque and pray there than praying on the street and that there is no problem with Islam as far as Jews are concerned. Muslims understand the idol worship the same way and this is the main issue the Jews have with Christians and Hindus. Muslims are monotheistic and Sufi Islam is not much different from Kabbalah. Sharia laws are the same as Halacha, based on the sacred text. Lots of parallels.

    You know the Jews had always been friends with the Muslims until the war in 1948.

  445. @Talha

    ‘Yeah, this is the problem – you’re always discovering more evidence so with these things you can’t be certain – you can only really set a level of confidence that one theory is right over another and won’t be overturned by, say, some random goatherd coming across a pile of bones in a shallow mud pit or cave that throws both theories out.’

    On the other hand, in the case of Jews, you can just look at them. If somebody claimed Australian Aborigines and Koreans were actually the same race, you would give much credence to that?

    Add that any commonsensical view of human behavior should make it clear that it’s extremely improbable that, for example, masses of Jews migrated down the Red Sea littorial and settled in Yemen. Appearance aside, what obviously would have been the case is that the religion was introduced into the region, and then a population of the locals converted.

    Ditto for Jewish populations almost everywhere. There wasn’t some great Volkwanderung of the Jewish people; of course not. Isolated Jewish groups would arrive in wherever as traders or officials of the new regime or whatever and some number of the locals would adopt the new faith. Then, wait a few generations and presto — a hundred thousand Jews. But there never was a massive influx of Jews into the region.

    There were, ironically, only two clear exceptions to that. America, where Jews were welcomed along with just about everyone else, and Israel, where they just took what they wanted. The irony of course being that Jews claim they are in Israel by right, when in fact it’s about the only place they haven’t got a right to be. A Yemeni Jew has as much right to be in Yemen as any other Yemeni, and a Polish Jew has as much right to be in Poland as a Polish Catholic and so on — but the Jews currently occupying Palestine aren’t indigenous to that land, and only have taken possession by virtue of violence and deceit.

    • Replies: @Talha
  446. Talha says:
    @The Dark Night

    Rambam, a great Sephardic rabbi, said that it is better to enter a mosque and pray there than praying on the street and that there is no problem with Islam as far as Jews are concerned.

    I remember coming across this ruling – Islam is not considered ‘avodah zarah’.

    You know the Jews had always been friends with the Muslims until the war in 1948.

    There were good times and bad times and it depended where one lived. Jews in Turkey and Egypt lived fairly well, while in Yemen, they were pretty much destitute (not that the rest of Yemen is all that rich) and isolated, and if you went to parts of Central Asia the Jews were bullied and slapped around. Certain parts of North Africa had a pogrom once in a while, truth be told, but overall Jews were granted more concessions (and often refuge) in the Muslim world in the pre-modern era. So it all depends; it’s a big subject covering lots of ground and over many centuries.

    The advent of Israel in the area (mostly at the hands of [not local, but] settler European Jews) and the secular ethno-nationalism of the time (on the part of both Jews and Arabs in the area) has really screwed things up. I really hope we can walk this thing back before it gets out of hand and cooler heads prevail, because the current trajectory is not good.

    Peace.

  447. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    A Yemeni Jew has as much right to be in Yemen as any other Yemeni

    Agreed.

    A Yemeni Jew

    One wonders – how long can a Yemeni Jew remain a “Yemeni Jew” in another land before his identity doesn’t mean anything anymore?

    Peace.

  448. @Colin Wright

    Well, this raises several points….

    Anyone who has spent time in Israel knows that Jews aren’t monolithic, but U.S. Jews are pretty monolithic, at least the elite Jews are. And even among Israelis, Jews relate to diverse Jews more that they would relate to a non-Jew of similar background.

    Jews are very tribal, and there is no way around that. The problem is that they are also very aggressive collectively, and have little regard for the societies that they live in. Where are the Jewish institutions that openly support the social, cultural, or ethnic cohesion of their hosts, or that work for the overall health of their host society? They don’t exist anywhere where Jews are in the minority, so it makes sense to oppose the Jewish collective.

    And who cares if Jews are more intelligent on average? The West produces more than enough native genius to do well without Jews. The fact that Gentiles in the West produce a more layered society just means that they are able produce societies that function. And it’s not like Jews tower above Gentiles on average, anyway. Gentiles aren’t latching onto Jews.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  449. Seraphim says:
    @The Dark Night

    No wonder, Maimonides was perfectly conscious that Islam was a creation of the Jews. Always united, despite occasional scuffles, in their common hatred for the ‘idolaters’ (akums/mushrikun).

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  450. @OilcanFloyd

    ‘…And even among Israelis, Jews relate to diverse Jews more that they would relate to a non-Jew of similar background.

    Jews are very tribal, and there is no way around that. The problem is that they are also very aggressive collectively, and have little regard for the societies that they live in. Where are the Jewish institutions that openly support the social, cultural, or ethnic cohesion of their hosts, or that work for the overall health of their host society? They don’t exist anywhere where Jews are in the minority, so it makes sense to oppose the Jewish collective…”

    I don’t think this is completely fair. If you want to see tribal, try out some Armenians. Then Blacks certainly favor each other…there’s the ‘Irish mafia’ of tradition in various East Coast fire departments ‘n stuff…I’ve seen Samoans be impressively tribal.

    Etc. We’re all ‘tribal’ — to varying degrees. One naturally chooses people who are more likely to share your values, to understand your outlook, to want to help…

    I don’t even see American Jews as being especially bad in this respect. Not especially good, either, but…

    I’m reminded of the Nick Nolte film where he’s a basketball coach trying to recruit hot prospects. He visits one obviously religious family — and agrees he’s Baptist.

    ‘Southern Baptist or ______ Baptist?’

    We’ve all got our little tribe — unless you’re Mr. Gentile UberLiberal, in which case you’re merely lying to yourself.

    As to ‘working for the overall health of their host society’ etc, again, it kinda depends. I recall in particular some Jewish billboard operator who was being berated for pulling down an anti-Israel ad. Was it Zionism, red in tooth and claw — or just a business decision?

    I went and looked up his charitable giving. It was all the usual anodyne ‘money for kids with brain cancer,’ etc. Not a dime for Israel, and not much for Jewish charities in general.

    So while Jews do subscribe overwhelmingly to the progressive agenda, and while much of that might look inimical to our national survival to you and me, they may well see themselves as just doing good. I seriously don’t think American Jews are united in a league to drag us all down to perdition. That’s not their intent. What their effect is would be another matter.

    Really, I tend to see Israel as the only bone that sticks in my craw. Otherwise, yes, Jews are influential, and yes, they subscribe to various ‘progressive’ dogmas that I think are pernicious, but do I see a ‘collective’? Some body to which all Jews belong and which we should reflexively oppose?

    Not really. Absent Israel, I think all this could be fought out without any more reference to whether someone is Jewish than to whether they’re Methodist or Presbyterian.

  451. @The Dark Night

    ‘…You know the Jews had always been friends with the Muslims until the war in 1948.’

    Ahem. Jews had always been friends with Muslims until Christendom pulled ahead.

    Then we got to start hearing about the ‘Judeo-Christian heritage.’ ‘Ms. Muslim? Her? Never talked to her in my life. Awful trollop…’

    One could really set the cat among the pigeons. A nice book on the position of Jewry when Islam was overrunning Spain, when Turkey was riding high, wide, and handsome, when the Golden Horde was sacking Moscow…

    It wouldn’t be fair…but is this about fair?

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @The Dark Night
  452. One comic bit I recall from, oh, fifteen years back — somewhere in the general post-9/11 festival of Islamophobia ‘n hootenanny. The Judaic Islamophobes got all excited about a mid-nineteenth century pogrom against the Jews in Syria; publicized the hell out of it.

    …until it transpired that it was Christian Syrians who were the primary instigators and participants in it.

    Sudden silence.

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  453. @Talha

    Yemeni Jews are wealthier or poorer than other Yemeni; they worked in the silver souk. I ran into a few in Dubai. Most left for Al Qud as part of Operation Flying Carpet but a few remained in Yemen.

    One of the big issues with Yemen at the time I lived in the Gulf was that they were all speed freaks-Khat is a hellava drug and many Yemeni were strung out on it. For some reason, Khat never really hit the market elsewhere.

    But Yemeni Jews avoided it.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @The Dark Night
  454. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    This cynical manipulation of the historical record by hardcore Zionists in their 24/7 propaganda campaign to vilify Islam really, really pisses me off. It’s a level of absolute Machiavellian deceit and treachery.

    To their credit, there are Jewish academics and researchers who do not engage in this kind of manipulative nonsense, so that should be recognized as well.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  455. Miggle says:
    @Colin Wright

    They hate each other so much they won’t even send their children to the same schools. The contempt felt for the Ultra-Orthodox in such organs as Haaretz is almost palpable.

    In point of fact, that’s part of the reason why Israel is so compulsively hostile to her neighbors — or failing her neighbors, anyone within a thousand miles. She needs an enemy at the gates. Any prolonged interval of peace, and the various flavors of Jew in Israel start to turn on each other. She has literally provoked clashes with the Palestinians to head off internal strife. I recall watching this very clearly happen about ten years ago. Remember those demonstrations about housing or something? What happened next?

    Jews in Israel are united solely by their hate and fear of everyone around them — and they take good care to perpetuate that hate and fear.

    Colin, you are right, of course, and put it very well. But let’s stand back a bit, and take a wider view. I guess you know this, but let me say it. You have drawn a picture of Judaism in general, Judaism as such. We can agree on the extreme beastiality of a state actually ruled by Jews, but the hate, hate, hate of the unrestrained actions of the Jews of Israel and of the illegal settlements has exposed to the world Judaism as such. More are realizing that it stands for hate, hate, hate
    .
    The victimhood is a cultivation of hate. The screams of “anti-Semitism” are hate speech. Holocaust memorials are expressions of a uniting hatred of non-Jews, nothing else.

    Jews are united solely by their (cultivated) hate and fear of everyone around them, all non-Jews. And they take good care to perpetuate that hate and fear. It was all left behind by Christianity, with its “love your enemy” and “turn the other cheek”, but preserved in Talmudism.

    Judaism would disappear in a generation without that cultivation of hate. And of all the deception, which tries to keep hidden the idiocy of their concocted mindset and religion.

  456. Talha says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    But Yemeni Jews avoided it.

    Good for them – I wish more Yemeni Muslims would also.

    Peace.

  457. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    You are talking about the ‘Damascus Affair’. The ‘pogrom’ was the result of the murder of Father Thomas, a French citizen and a Franciscan Capuchin friar from the Island of Sardinia, and his Greek servant, Ibrahim Amarah by the Jews.

  458. @Colin Wright

    So while Jews do subscribe overwhelmingly to the progressive agenda, and while much of that might look inimical to our national survival to you and me …

    The Jewish progressive agenda doesn’t seem inimical to our national survival to me, to the extent that it is progressive. It’s the pro-Israel agenda that is particularly destructive to the U.S.

    … they may well see themselves as just doing good.

    Macbeth saw himself as doing good. How many truly malevolent people say to themselves that they are doing evil? We all rationalize our behavior.

    I seriously don’t think American Jews are united in a league to drag us all down to perdition.

    I don’t think so either. However, I would suggest that there is a militant core of American Jews that is highly organized and that has little regard for the interests of anyone other than the Jews and many of whom are actively hostile to “the goyim,” a pejorative term that gentiles have never voluntarily adopted for themselves. And it’s not just all “the goyim,” but white Europeans especially.

    The funny thing is that many of those Jews have come to see themselves as a people apart from white Europeans, although they’re white Europeans themselves as well. Many of them have a racialist concept of the nature of “the Jewish people” that is not terribly different from that of Hitler.

    But as I said, this is a militant core of organized Jews, not all Jews. There are plenty of other Jews outside that core. Nonetheless, outside that core many of the other Jews have their own hatred for the rest of the world and their own knee-jerk support for Israel.

    Really, I tend to see Israel as the only bone that sticks in my craw.

    I don’t see Israel as “the only bone,” but it is clearly the least forgivable.

  459. @Colin Wright

    It seems to me that the progressive/secular Jewish organizations speak for most Jews in Europe and America and have succeeded in overturning freedom of speech in every western country save America. They successfully lobbied for laws against denying the Holocaust, broadening into laws against any sort of revisionism or anti-Semitism, broadening into laws against ‘hate speech’ of all kinds including speech endorsing nationalism, traditional views about women, gays, racial minorities, and so on, the broadening process being supported at every step by Jewish activists and plutocrats. The censorship of all ‘hate speech’ masks the fact that all the views censored are ones opposed by secular Jews, and seen as typical of nationalist or anti-Semitic elements.

    Much of the pressure against Russia, IMO, is caused by Russia having the will and the military power to resist this forced imposition of progressive opinions on historically Christian, not-so-progressive populations, which were formerly censored by Communist parties but now free to return to their nationalist and religious roots and accompanying social attitudes. In effect, Jewish progressivism would restore Communist censorship in a post-Communist world.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  460. @AaronB

    Lol it would be nice if you said that on principle rather then pragmatism. But that is appreciated.

    But they’ve accomplished it in all of Europe the UK and Australia. I think they’ll keep pushing.

  461. Adelaar says:
    @The Dark Night

    You know the Jews had always been friends with the Muslims until the war in 1948.

    Yes, we know that you betrayed Europeans on every turn. Please stay here on this site for some more time since you do a such great job of reminding everyone why jews have to go.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  462. anaccount says:

    Is Dark Knight trying to pull a Jesus move on us? I don’t believe in Jewish gods, not anymore.

  463. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Colin Wright

    I meant a choice of friends.

    And allies. This gang will turn against you as soon as you say anything they don’t like. They will not give credit to your people, even where it is due.

  464. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Talha

    I am in full agreement with you here. Peace.

  465. @jack daniels

    ‘It seems to me that the progressive/secular Jewish organizations speak for most Jews in Europe and America and have succeeded in overturning freedom of speech in every western country save America…’

    But there you are. I see the compulsion to suppress criticism and ostracism of Israel as a powerful driver in this movement. ‘Thou shalt not deny the Holocaust’ — and why?

    After all, you can deny the Rape of Nanking. It’ll annoy Chinese no end, but tough-o. Isn’t the need to bar Holocaust Denial largely because it is so useful as a justification for Israel and blanket excuse for its crimes?

    Strip out Israel, and isn’t it at least possible the consensus would swing back toward unfettered free speech and just living with the aggravation?

    • Replies: @Talha
  466. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    No, it was popular in Israel. And legal. For a few years, of course.

    “Hagigat,” it was called. Look it up. There was almost an epidemic in Tel Aviv in the 2000’s. Young people would snort it right in the cafeterias. Then some rape cases were connected to it, and it was banned. Some people made a lot of money.

  467. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Seraphim

    What a nonsense.

    What would be the point to create a new religion? And not being able to control it? The Arabs created Islam using Judaism as a foundation and unlike the Christians more or less managed to keep it intact with the source, this is why Maimonides concluded that Islam is compatible with the Jewish Law. For the most part.

    And concerning the “hatred” for idolators tell me who killed more of them, compared to the Christians?

  468. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Colin Wright

    Jews had always been friends with Muslims, until Israel pulled ahead.

    Most Jewish settlements in the Muslim countries flourished, and Jews were respected there. Uzbekistani Jews in Buchara, Sephardic Jews in Spain and in Morocco, and in Persia and Iraqi Jews that I know always talk with admiration about these countries. Their music has a lot in common with these “host nations,” and food is the same.

    When did the Christendom pull ahead?

  469. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Adelaar

    Please remind me, when did the Jews pledged allegiance to the Europeans? What exactly do the Jews owe to the Europeans? You cannot be betrayed unless you are a friend, right? Have you ever been a friend to the Jews? I mean you, the Europeans.

    Except for a few centuries in Poland the Jews had been mistreated throughout Europe all the time, until the Enlightenment. And even now, after all this time, some Europeans are still hostile to the Jews. Without any rational reason.

    Just know the Jews are not going anywhere. You are.

  470. @The Dark Night

    Well if your name is not an avatar then you would be Lebanese (Maybe Jewish, maybe not) and would be unaware that European Jews fought in most Wars (Including many German Jews in World War II).

    Remember that European Jews are basically Italians, descended from Roman stock. So they were deeply entrenched in their birth countries for centuries. However, relations were colder with some European countries than others. Italians, who share genes with European Jews, always the warmest. And not bad with Brits, though chilly. Worst in Slavic countries.

    So I’d say relations were friend with some European countries and not with others.

    Europeans may be hostile to Jews, but Jews are not the ones that make Sweden dread sundown.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  471. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Even if I was a Lebanese Jew, which I am not, I would still be aware of historical facts. Strange line of reasoning.

  472. Adelaar says:
    @The Dark Night

    Me. “You betrayed Europeans on every turn.”

    You:

    Please remind me, when did the Jews pledged allegiance to the Europeans?…
    …And even now, after all this time, some Europeans are still hostile to the Jews. Without any rational reason.

    Translation: “Yes, we did, tough shit, why are you upset, though?”

    Also:

    Just know the Jews are not going anywhere. You are.

    I’ll say the same to you as to The Dark Night, please stay at UR just to remind everyone what a hateful waste of air you people are.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  473. @The Dark Night

    “Without any rational reason”

    No Sagi. You are quite mistaken.

    https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/59500 – Jews are trying to replace Europeans in their own countries. That’s what Jews have always done, to the extent it is within their power.

    At the same time, you inveterate liars and hippocrites do the opposite in the case of Israel.

    https://archive.is/5LfJv You are such a pathetic liar.

    Even your own Jews probably despite you, because you’re such an obvious liar.

    Here is the effing Jerusalem Post “Candidly Speaking: Pseudo-liberal Jews are causing unspeakable damage”

    So even Jews at the Jerusalem Post, you cretin, you stain, you worthless pig, know that you are lying and state the argument that cun*s like you say is a ‘conspiracy theory’.

    Jews are flooding Europe with the third world and Africa in particular – says the Jersualem Post.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/2016/10/11/it-stinks-to-be-jewish-during-election-2016/2/

    Here are more Jews, observing the consequences of Jewish subversion, lies, double-standards and crimes:

    “So, what of the political future of American Jewry? The one thing that 2016 has made clear is this: Jewish Americans are not welcome among the political elite on the Left or the Right. For the first time in my lifetime, Jewish Americans who make no bones about identifying as Jews, whether they are Orthodox in practice or Zionist in outlook, are being given the cold shoulder by the political establishment at large.”

    You are an absolute moron. Other Jews can see very clearly the future. The left of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib who only persist in the US because of Jewish immigration policy hate you, despise you, and regard you as white supremacists.

    The Right now understand you are the implacable enemies of American liberty, as demonstrated by the anti-BDS laws. There will always be some evangelical donkeys bamboozled by Genesis 12:3. But they are an ever shrinking minority.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10983417/Gaza-conflict-As-a-British-Jew-I-am-now-scared-to-talk-about-Israel-and-Gaza.html

    Here are more Jews Kvetching about the logical consequences of their retarded illogical impulses and preferences – totally foreseeable, completely their fault.

    “History is a harsh and unforgiving bitch and one ignores her lessons at one’s peril. The economy is not going to improve. The demographic time-bomb is not going to self-defuse. Gen X and the Millennials are impervious, at best, to crying Holocaust. There are now more Muslims than Jews in Europe and the USA. Nationalism is growing rapidly in reaction to the abuses and injustices of globalization and transnationalism. The debt limits are being stretched perilously thin everywhere from the USA to China.”

    You are a Jewish cretin.

    You are going to removed from your jurisdiction in the next 20 years. Not the gentiles – you. You, you, you.

    It’s going to be incredibly painful for everyone – diversity + proximity = war.

    Even Australia isn’t going to be safe for Jews. The Chinese want to supplant you, not partner with you. And your own Jews insist on mass muslim immigration into Australia. And once muslims get to 10%, they detach from the Jews and enforce their own preferences.

    You are an absolute cretin.

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    109 different locations and counting through no fault whatsoever of the Jews.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/191087/ebb-tide-in-the-golden-country

    Here is Jew Rich Cohen being dishonest, but seeing why it is the Jews, not the gentiles, who will have to leave soon.

    He left out a three reasons:

    1. Jews are disproportionately affected by the dyscivic and dysgenic consequences of their own social policies
    Jews love to be gay and have sex with men and wear dresses.

    2. “Jews had re-imagined the nation, ” according to Rich Cohen – Of course, they didn’t merely reimagine it, they helped remake it more to their liking out of the mistaken belief that a multi-ethnic America would be better and safer for them than an Anglo-Saxon America. This is turning out to be wildly untrue, as the genteel disdain they so resented on the part of the elite White Anglo-Saxon Episcopalians is considerably milder than the way in which they regarded by nearly every immigrant group that the Jews have sought to import, from Central Americans to Eastern Europeans to Asians.

    3. The third is that a number of elite Jews in America have increasingly attempted to use America’s military on behalf of Israel’s foreign policy. This is increasingly resented by Americans across the political spectrum; for example, neither Right nor Left is even remotely interested in invading Iran as the neocons have been demanding for the last 13 years. Their efforts have not yet boomeranged, as Dr. van Creveld fears, but at some point they most likely will if they do not cease.

    One could go on, and on, ad infinitum on why you are wrong. But I’ll leave it there.

    Get some land in Israel Sagi.

  474. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Related to “strip out Israel”…what are the chances this large rally will be shown to the US public versus rallies smaller than this from Tehran?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  475. Talha says:
    @Talha

    Also, found this very telling clip by Biden from the 80’s:

  476. @The Dark Night

    Ah yes, and who can forget ((Ben Shapiro)) as just the latest Jew, attempting to literally define out of western civilization, so ludicrously and amazingly, the European peoples, Rome, and Christianity – by saying western civilization is a set of ideas from Athens and Jerusalem.

    Or ((Michael Ledeen)) lying about the Spanish under Islam.

    Here is the Jew, Ledeen, lying about the impact of the Spanish removing their cancerous Jews:

    “Jews were important to the Spanish economy, and to Spanish culture. Spain steadily weakened without its Jews, who made major contributions to Ottoman lands and to Muslim countries across North Africa, especially Tunisia. Their commercial skills included trade in spices, at the time very important for the continent…. Queen Isabella’s brutal oppression of the Jews totally backfired. She purged her country of the descendants of the great Maimonides, only to have Spain sink into irrelevancy on the world stage.”

    Here is the reality:

    “100 years after the Spaniards kicked out the Jews, they ruled over the wealthiest, most powerful empire on Earth. Irrelevancy on the world stage? The Spanish empire didn’t even reach its apogee for another 300 years! To the contrary, barely 100 years after the USA first permitted mass Jewish immigration, it has lost its global power, it is deeply in debt, it is demoralized in literally every sense of the term, it has been invaded by tens of millions of foreigners, and is now on the verge of complete political collapse.”

    That’s one basic example of why Jews have to leave. You are in an endless, unending, ceaseless campaign of lies and deception to destroy the minds of the next generation of westerners. You want us to believe that YOU are the West – no, you are inimical to the West.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jews-and-muslims-ramp-up-alliances-in-wake-of-trumps-election/

    No – you are once again, allying with Muslims to try and destroy the people who give you safety, prosperity, absolute freedom, prominence, power and monopoly.

    Your people are mentally ill. You have a destroyers impulse.

    https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2017/10/11/can-american-jews-white-nationalists/ideas/essay/

    Here a Jew says that Stephen Miller can’t be considered an American. He absolutely could, and is. But the problem is that he doesn’t overtly display dual loyalties, and always ask first, ‘is it good for the Jews’ instead of ‘is it good for the United States and my neighbours’.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/

    Goldberg is correct, it’s time to leave Sagi. Because your people’s ill thought policies and dishonesty and nepotism and hubris has laid the conditions for catastrophe – and all it’s going to take is one major push, just one. One more big terrorist attack in France of Germany, one more economic contraction.

    “Goldberg’s predisposition is correct. There is no future for the Jews in Post-Christian Europe now that the great experiment in diversity and multiculturalism is ending. The various European nations trust the Jews no more than they trust the Europeans. What is happening in Europe now is going to be happening in the USA circa 2050, and I doubt the results will be any different.”

    There is still time – if people like you repent, stop spouting lies and retarded nonsense, start making common cause with the people who saved you from the fractions of the Holocaust that actually did happen, as opposed to most of it which didn’t, the pending catastrophe can be averted.

    You have to stop standing in the way of Europe defending itself against Islam & Africa, and the United States defending itself against Hispanica and Asia.

    If you don’t, I will not support it because Jews are wonderful in their own quirky way, history IS going to repeat itself. Not the deadly version, but the travelling version.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/26/world/europe/france-holocaust-survivor-murder.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

    This Holocaust survivor died because of Jews – because you have pushed immigration into the West for, on record, as long as 100 years.

    https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Twilight-of-American-Jewry-467862&#8242;

    You are in your Twilight. You best pray it is a peaceful one.

    You’re too low IQ evidently, despite the Jewish proclamations to ‘115’ to the contrary, to bother iterating why it might be that Europeans have cause to resent Jews.

    Just keep thinking it’s all completely random behaviour of sub-humans and live your merry little life.

  477. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Adelaar

    You sound insane.

    But alright, let’s do it this way. Your way. Like two idiots.

    You said: “Jews have to go.” I replied, “Jews are not going. You are.” And now I am a hateful waste of air? You must be non compos mentis.

    And again, tell me when Europeans were friends of Jews. After all the expulsions and persecutions you expect loyalty? For what reason?

    You deserve revenge.

    • Replies: @Adelaar
  478. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    One of the most intelligent posts I have seen on Unz.
    Pre-WW2 there was quite a gulf between German Jews and usually Yiddish-speaking Polish ones or those from further east. Franz Kafka encouraged his circle to support a wandering theatrical group of Polish Jews. His father and quite a few other Prague Jews were hostile – Kafka quoted his father as saying that “he who lies down with dogs gets up with fleas”. Kafka’s father actually grew up speaking Czech in an impoverished village in Bohemia but switched to German as it was more a prestige and official language.
    More recently a non-Jewish work colleague had a woman friend who was Jewish or half-Jewish. She was very secular. I asked him what she thought of the ultra-orthodox or Haredim to be found in Stamford Hill, London. He replied that she had told him those people were very inbred.

  479. Adelaar says:
    @The Dark Night

    So naturally, your starting point is that at least 109 expulsions and other unpleasentness were suffered by Jews, no fault of their own. That is to be expected and on its face so laughable that I’ll leave it at that.

    I know your kind “never forgives, never forgets” as you demonstrated here:

    You deserve revenge.

    I stated that, acknowledging the history, Jews will have to leave Europe for their own country, in everybody’s best interest. You know, with the undeserved expulsions and poisecutions on one side and the treachery and nation-wrecking on the other.

    You replied that not Jews but Europeans will have to leave (I know you want us to disappear) and wonder why I call you hateful?

    This whole dialogue is a joke. I can’t really tell if your so caught up in your own delusion that you really believe what you are saying or just trying to score points but I can assure you, you are only making my case for me with your vitriol.

    Keep talking, snake.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  480. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Adelaar

    I’m not a snake son, I’m a serpent and you are a frog to me.

    Following your logic, since the Church massacred heretics so many times that was their own fault. All those hundreds of thousands people must have been guilty of some terrible crimes, if Mother f. Church had to treat them like that. Right?

    As far as I know, prior to 1948 Jews had been expelled about 60 times, and almost always from Christian countries. I think it was once or twice when Muslims expelled Jews. And the reason is that the Church couldn’t stand any competition.

    Muslims and Moriscos were expelled twice from Spain. That’s one million people. What was their guilt?

    • Replies: @Adelaar
  481. Adelaar says:
    @The Dark Night

    Since you haven’t addressed it again I assume that you’realized why I called you hateful and you concur. That is good.

    Jews had been expelled about 60 times, and almost always from Christian countries. And the reason is that the Church couldn’t stand any competition.

    Literally LOL. Sure, if Jews hadn’t been expelled the people would have converted in droves to classical Judaism, the most attractive of all religions. Okay, I’ve made up my mind, you are delusional.

    Following your logic, since the Church massacred heretics so many times that was their own fault. All those hundreds of thousands people must have been guilty of some terrible crimes, if Mother f. Church had to treat them like that. Right?

    False equivalence. Not “when someone was done wrong, it must be his fault”. But “when the same people from pre-Christian times up to this decade, over and over again, are expelled from those respective regions, they might be partially responsible”.

    And that’s why it’s so telling that you, in true fashion, claim exactly that, that for no reason whatsoever Jews have been mistreated.
    You have

    no self-awareness whatsoever

    , otherwise you wouldn’t act like that. You would realize how your behavior looks to others. Maybe you do realize. It does not matter. You already expressed your feelings towards Europeans. We deserve revenge.

    There is nothing to gain here anymore for me, not even amusement. Since you keep spreading your mad drivel across several comment sections here for everyone to see I can bring this to an end and leave you with this:

    And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  482. The Dark Night [AKA "Sagi Harari"] says:
    @Adelaar

    And these people call me a sophist. Amazing.

    I am asking again: who was wrong on account of the massacres of Christian heretics?

    Your logic is that since heretics had been massacred tens of times that is because heretics were at least in part responsible. For their own massacre.

    I am asking again: who was wrong on account of expulsion of about a million Muslims from Spain?

    The Church exterminated hundreds of thousand people as heretics: Bogomils, Albigensians, Huguenots and others. Some of these groups – in full. Knights Templar. For what reason?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  483. @The Dark Night

    The Jews were expelled not for religious reasons but because of their persistent PRACTICE OF USURY.

  484. Avis says:
    @jING

    Oy Vey! He’s laying out arguements and facts we can’t refute or even distort! Quick bubie, smear him as psychologically deficient! That one always works, right? Oh gawd, please let it still work!

  485. Oracle says:
    @Robert Dolan

    What about permanent and mandatory miscegenation with Africa? That would be fair. It wouldn’t hurt any individual really and after awhile no one would even notice they were gone.

  486. @AaronB

    ‘… The founder of WeWork created his company because he wanted Americans to experience the same camaraderie and sense of common purpose he had in Israel…’

    I thought this would be worth finding.

    Compare and contrast:

    ‘… In January 2019, the firm announced it would be rebranding to The We Company,[9] and its valuation was stated as $47 billion. The Wall Street Journal noted that since the release of their public prospectus in 2019, the company “has been besieged with criticism over its governance, business model, and ability to turn a profit.”[10] WeWork lost over $2 billion in 2018.[11]
    Following mounting pressure from investors based on disclosures made in its S-1 filing, Adam Neumann resigned from his position as CEO and gave up majority voting control in WeWork as of September 26, 2019. WeWork also delayed its planned stock market listing until the end of 2019 amid growing investor concerns over its corporate governance, valuation, and outlook for the business.
    On September 30, 2019, WeWork formally withdrew its S-1 filing and will postpone the IPO. The reported public valuation of the company is currently around $10 billion,[12] less than the $12.8 billion it had raised since 2010…’

    Adam Neumann has apparently finished teaching us about Israeli camaraderie and common purpose.

  487. barr says:
    @Talha

    Zionist at least in Egypt , Yemen , and Iraq manipulated pressurized and forced the local Jews to leave their ancestral lands and settle in Israel.

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